Astros Win Series Over Tigers, DeChambeau Wins U.S Open, NBA Finals Game 5

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Saulisbury. Ol, okay, let'sdo this. Sean Salisbury, The usc
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is the Sean Salsbury Show. SeanTripley, good morning, Good morning man.

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Uh yeah, what a what aweekend of sports, big sports.
Two really good pitching performances by HunterBrown and Renel Blanco, which I know
we'll get to. Deshamble tried togive it away early, hit like five
or fourteen or five of fifteen fairwayswhatever it was. Yes, it hits
a ton, but hits it sofar. Sometimes he hits himself into trouble
but rolls right out of it becausethe ball is beyond trouble. He hit

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it into the native area as wecall it, regularly and found ways that
he had clean lies over there andmade plays. You're never going to see
a better shot in a major championshipthan fifty five five yards from a long
bunker shot. It's a tweeter bunkershot, not greenside, and sure as
hell not in the fairway to whereyou could chili dip it. You could

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you know, pick it clean andhave it, you know, go over
the green with all the way thoseare with the false looks, everything rolling
off the greens. Brutal. Ijust but going in with a three stroke
leader. McElroy played great, buton sixteen and eighteen men he missed both
inside four foot puts. That's justa choke job. He could have made
those with his eyes closed on thepractice greens or anywhere else. And I

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don't mean that he's a great player, best driver of the golf ball when
it comes to accuracy and deep onthe planet. But they were both inside
four feet. Can't miss those,man, and he'd make those. See
Johnny Miller used to say that whenhe'd broadcasts, he'd call it a choke
job. How do you not callit a choke job? Three bogey three
out of last four holes and twoof the on sixteen and eighteen he had

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puts that were inside four feet thatwere just quite frankly. I know there
was a little movement, but fora pro, that's a gimme. That's
as simple that that's a simple checkdown. He get a little decillation and he
missed them both and opened the door. And then d Shamba's shot on eighteen
from a bunker fifty five yards,that's a tweener. You don't know how
I mean, and he hits itto three feet and then makes the putt.

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So some amazing, amazing golf playedon a brutal, brutally dip.
Yeah, yet the players, Imean the setup of it, it looks
optically on TV it looks like itwas a dog track at times because of
the like the grass it seemed likewas burnt worn out. But that's a

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it's about as tough. The purseis the second biggest on tour. Uh.
He made four point two or fourpoint three million with the win.
Four or five guys make seven figures. But his final shot doing to get
to that putt, the fifty fiveyard bunker shot was as good as you'll
ever see, just as bad asMcElroy's miss. That was spectacular, and

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you saw motion last time he won. There's nobody on the golf course for
the most part because it's twenty twenty. There's no crowd walking up the eighteenth.
So this, while his second majorand second US opened, was much
different. I think it was awinged foot the first time, but this
was much different because the crowd wasthere and macelroyd served it up on a
platter. He hung in there thewhole time. He couldn't make the putts.
So hell of a weekend, man, when it came to some sports,

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and Angel Reese is still a painin the ass, and somebody is,
somebody's gonna have just done this.I don't I can't wait till somebody
wheels on her and punched her rightin her face at some point. I
don't mean literally, well I kindof do, but it just she said,
she's not. She just yeah,you're right, she just sucks.
Okay, she just sucks. Andone of these days, so she's yeah,

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And you know what's Caitlin Clark's fourtimes the player she is. She
just is. She knows that Angelreesa yes, and it bothers that Angel
Reese is going to be a tenpoint not eight rebound a game, or
vice versa her whole career twelve points, ten rebounds. But she just is.
I don't mind physical play, butshe doesn't play. She says,
that's not a flaggerfowl. That wasshe didn't go for the ball. She
was so that that that saga continues. Jealousy off the off the court's one

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thing, and when it's on thecourt, it's so palpable. You can
just see it, and she willnever be the player Kaitlyn Clark is.
So did you buy a chance tosee what Serena Williams said about Kaylyn Clark?
No, she let me get this. Let me make sure, I
say, tell me, the oneof the greatest, if not the greatest
female athlete I've ever seen, dominate. She was what Tiger Woods was to
go. She was as dominant asany athlete we've seen in your lifetime female

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athlete. Please tell me she didn'trip her. No, she did not.
She had an interview with Time Timemagazine, obviously, and she said,
quote, if people are always negative, it's because they can't do what
you do. As it's the truth. It is the truth. Have you
ever noticed the people that are reallygood at what they do don't need to

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beat her down? You know,people don't talk about no they unless it's
a hey, thumbs up and let'sgo. So yeah, it's it's uh,
it's kind of it's it's getting tothe point where it's almost laughable,
right that that being said to theastros. And I know, I don't
know if you got to watch muchof the golf turn, but it was
a pretty fun watch it was.It was dramatic some of the shots that
these guys have to hit, andjust like you and I, some of

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the shots they miss, which makesyou say, what the US Open does
on a track like that where you'rejust to stay below par is brute.
Only a handful of guys stayed belowpar Yeah, And when you do that,
what it does is it brings Itmakes us feel like, oh man,
you mean he could hit a shotacross the fairway and hit into a

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bunker out of some bad stuff,or miss a three foot putt when your
buddy's got a hundred dollars bit orfour point three million dollars on the line.
So it was uh, I wasin. I was actually enamored by
the whole thing, just the waythe US Open setups are frigging brutal golf.
Dude. I just manned the stuffthat I did see from this turn

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this past weekend, Like every cameraangle, every view that I watched,
the course looked terrible. Yeah,but they looked burnt. You never heard
person saying, no, I knowthat was I said. The TV optics
made it look like a dog track. I forgot what course it was a
couple of years ago. They complainedabout how fast the greens were, and
then the the the golf Now whatdo they call the superintendent, Yeah,

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the superintendent, and the greens grewlike overnight. They turned it into a
completely different course. What they probablyto let it do is water and you
don't mow it the next day,you let it, You let it grow.
And it was completely different because thegrass will grow in twenty four hours.
Yeah, and it was completely different. And the players were happy about
it. And not one time thispast weekend that I hear about that they're

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looking dry, deep burnt. Yeah, they did know they tough, Yes,
because there's times when you could hitthe ball four feet to the right
of the flag, rolled off thegreen. There are certain areas like if
you hit it up there and itsits and it rolls thirty yards back,
I mean brutal. I mean youtalking about having to know where you got
to hit it into side inside theside of a hula hoop. Right,

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And but I didn't hear one persons. You know the stuff we see like,
oh it was bird, it wasa dog. Dry, it looked
like it on TV. Yet it'sone of the most iconic, right,
brutal, difficult tasks in the USOpen setup. So you know, the
rough so longer. It's always brutal, and that's real golf. You know,
they have sand in like the Nativeareas, it just lets it,
you know, sand blow in andthey just kind of do their thing there.

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And but the way that you gotto handle that golf course, and
there's so many if you hit itfar, you know that the fair way
shrinks. I mean, there's yougot to I mean it is you talking
about ams small, miss small.But I'd never heard one person say like
we like I said, our opticson the TV are like gosh, dang,
yeah, this has got to beBut it wasn't meant to look plush
like Augusta, right. It justthe wind blow and it looks like areas

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were burnt. But they you know, they get that, you know the
native area where it's tough. Hopefullyyou get a clean shot. But on
Friday, Thursday or Friday. Thestint meter, which is a measurement they
used to measure how fast the greensare. Twelve's fast now it was like
right at fourteen. So that's basicallylike putting on your driveway downhill. That's

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crazy. Imagine having every single.I mean, you're just try some of
them. You're just saying, letme just get it within the three foot
circle. And yet for Rory McElroy, a three foot circle in sixteen eighteen
cost him so and yet he playedpretty brilliant golf the majority of the rest
day. But that's that's why theyplay eighteen of them. So, but
Deshambo treated the fans well. Thatdude stayed around. Do you know what

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was dark and ten o'clock last night? He was still signing autography. Yeah,
I did see that sign. Hedid not leave. He was he
was. It almost felt like hewas there till the last fan left.
There was a moment that he sharedwith a kid that obviously had some special
needs. Did you see that oneI did where he literally knocks down a
putt. He's walking through the galleryand the kid is in the wheelchair right

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there. He stops, gives hima high five, signs his hat,
giveshim another five high five, spendslike a minute with him, and then
walks on. In the middle tournament. Yeah, normally those games they make
of dap when they're walking to thenext hole, but they rarely stopped because
they're focused on their own game andpeople understand why. But it's it's dark
in night time and he's a majorchampion and he's out there. Well,
he put his money where his mouth, as he said, his best fans

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in the world that he's ever playedin front of. And he stayed there
and signed till ten o'clock. Sothe guy's kind of a goofy dude.
You know, he's a little he'sa little cheesy at times. Yeah he
is, and he's but he's youknow what, He's actually not as jacked
as he was, which I thinkgives him even more flexibility for that ridiculous
swing that I don't know how hecontrols. It must be diet, whatever
it is. It worked for himand he got himself in shape. But

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I can tell you this, helooks like a changed guy. He seems
like such so much more likable.He looks personal. He gets it now
and probably gets it more than themost. He now accident and treats people
the way you're supposed to. Ithink it's uh good for him. It
was a fun watch. There's somany people that you know, like man
who's going to win this? Andthe guy. We should all be able

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to swing that hard and still forthe most part, control your golf ball.
Because guys like long hitters like that, what's the first thing we think,
Oh, they're not even good aroundthe roots right right, Yet the
shot of the day of the tournamentis a fifty five yard bunker shot where
I think, how when you're tryingto be cute you hit it, it

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just goes over the bunker and rollslike four feet and now you're still off.
It got to that point where you'rethinking, hell, even bogie.
If McElroy makes us, he maystill have a chance to win the damn
thing by just by by knocking hispar in and with the way that Deschambeau
hit his driver. But it wasan impressive watch. I love the majors

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and how they make us feel normalbecause they hit shot the golf course makes
you look like, oh, whocouldn't hit it to that spot and you
say, well the pros, youknow, pros didn't hit it there,
So pretty impressive. But the astrosin with Verlander, I know we're going
to get to Yeah, we said, whatch you can't afford is another injury
to the pitching staff. They absolutelythe biggest guarant he in sports right now,

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the biggest guarantee in sports aside fromWell heading into this week in Scotti
Scheffler, the biggest Garan or NellyCord of. The biggest guarantee right now
in sports is that the Houston Astrosare going to get a pitcher. That's
got to be the biggest guarantee.If it's not, then we're missing out.
And I'm conflicted on the Blanco pullinghim in the seventh. Dude,

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I am you're going to get thisold bad Well, you had to pull
him because he was in ninety pluspitches. It's been a lot of pitches
this year, and now that Verlander'shurt, we needed to save him.
Well, you didn't know Verlander washurt before that, did you? Yeah?
You did. You did, right, because it was the day before.
But I don't know, dude,I'm a little bit conflicted on this.
Yeah. Yeah, Renelle Blanco tooka perfect or excuse me, a

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no hitter through seven innings but waspulled. Let's discuss that next on Sports
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show on Sports Talk seven ninety,Renel Blanco was phenomenal seven hitless innings.
Jose al Tuve hit a home run. Astros win the game four to one.
Renel Blanco had a rare opportunity tocomplete his second no hitter of the
season. However, he was pulledafter ninety four pitches getting ready to go

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out for the eighth inning. JoeSpotta felt like it was necessary to pull
him out. His ERA drops totwo point four three. Sean, why
are you conflicted on pulling Renel Blanco? Can you make case he's the MVP
of the team this year? Yeah, he's an All Star for sure.
I'm conflicted because I understand partially thispart of me is old school. I

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understand partially when you look at thepitching staff and injuries that you don't want
to tempt it. I also there'sa part of me on the other side
of that says, two more innings, or go bring him out to the
eighth. If he walks the leadoff better or gives up a hit,
get him out. But if he'sgoing good, and let's say twenty five

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more pitches, is that going toruin him for the rest of his career?
His life? This dude's in thirtywho's having the career year. And
you know, there's only four orfive pitchers in the history of baseball that
have had two no hitters in thesame year. I think Halliday's in that
class. Randy Johnson, I thinkis in that class. I mean there's
some that's rarefied air now for aguy who two years ago you didn't even

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know if the guy was going tobe a regular on a major league roster,
of starting rotation on a regular basis, and he's an All Star.
And I know you always got toput team before before. And the Astros
didn't gain any ground on the Mariners. They did on the Rangers because the
Mariners were beaten up on the Rangers. But I get it. You got
a weigh history and your own playerverse what's best for our team. There's

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a part of me. It says, is I'm thinking to put my my
myself in Renelle Blanco's position is twentyextra pitches and if you're going good,
how do you know you're not goingto have seven pitches and get out of
the inning a pop fly, aslow roller ground out, and then a
strikeout. I would have run himout there for one more. I think
now if he came to me andsaid, I can't do this and ninety

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four pitches too much? I justyou know, times have changed, because
if Nolan Ryan was doing that,Nolan Ryan would have kicked you right and
then, you know what, rightin his huts? No, I don't
know, right in the nuts?Okay? Ha, do you come out
there and try to take him outof a game when he had a no
hitter in the seventh Inny? Correct? I do get the team part of
it, and you can't then,And well, then here's what you can't

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tell me. You can't. Iknow you, and I agree with that,
but you can't tell me, well, should have left him in and
then tell me, well, wedon't want to get too many innings on
him logged in because he's never beenthere. And then the others true,
you can't tell me, well,yeah, leave him in or don't leave
him in because and then complain thatthey're not getting enough innings. You know,

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as the season goes along, youcan't you can't give me both.
I would have run him out thatif I was a manager, just from
my vantage point. I'm not themanager, thank goodness, I probably would
have run him out there to seeif he could have a quick inning in
the eighth because this is history andyou're still I mean, I know you're

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battling and with the Vernon. Maybethe Verlander injury had something to do with
it. Knowing that man are aceof our staff right now and he has
been the ace all year long,I'm going to need him. But when
all is said and done, histwenty extra pitch is going to be the
difference at the end of the seasonwhether his arm wears out or not.
I don't know. That's where I'mconflicted. And to be dude, to
do that rarefied air history. Thatwould have been hard for me. I

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would have had a hard time laboredpulling him out, especially knowing how good
he was going. That's just that'sme because I think about the stuff that
the player, you know, whatit means to him in the process,
teams always got to come first,But I'm not sure you were sacrificing the
team by keeping Renel Blanco out there. Yeah, just talking about the innings
threshold for Renel Blanco. He's neverthrown more than one hundred and twenty five

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innings in a season, and eachof his last four starts going into Sunday,
he has thrown at least ninety fivepitches in all four of them.
Well, it tells me he's apretty good workhorse, That's what it tells
me. I mean, we're gettingso I get it with all this metric

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stuff, but I would I'm justsaying. I'm just talking about the part
of me would have had a hardtime pulling him out with a no hitter
and going good. So he wasnot laboring. He's thrown. After Sunday's
outing, He's at seventy seven andtwo thirds innings pitched. Excuse so we
call a threshold, never thrown.What'd you say, one hundred and twenty
five, one hundred fifty? Wouldyou say? All right? So if

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he gets to one thirty five orone forty this year, let's say gets
one hundred and forty innings, sothat we automatically got to think that I'm
not saying you, but the thresholdis it when you hit one thirty,
we're in a danger zone. Thatthat that's how we approach this. Now,
Yeah, especially with Uh, withthe way that this pitching staff is
banged up. Look, I wouldhave thrown him back out there. I

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would have. I would have gonehitter by hitter in the eighth inning.
I would have I would have watchedthe pitch count. I understand ninety four
pitches. I understand where your bullpenis, but man, the way that
he was cruising, I would havegone hit her by hitter. But I
also part I'm conflicted as well,because half of me understands the pitching rotation

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is absolutely banged up. Justin Verlander, in my opinion, is probably going
to head to the iel. Yougot air Getty who got roughed up because
he had to come up or hehad to push a day earl or whatever
the case was. Spot start.You got guys that are that are you're
missing Oviy here, you're missing herkey, so forth and so on.
We know all the injuries. Andyou got Blanco air Getty, who are

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going to come up on any stresholds. But man, ninety four pitches going
into the eighth inning, you gottwo innings left. I would have gone
at least hit her by hitter.I'm conflicted, yes, but I would
have leaned. I would have takenthe I would have leaned on the side
because I think you were still helpingyour team. I would have. I
would you were still helping your teamby having him go out there because he
was going good. Deed, yougive it over to the bullpen if if

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you keep him in I'm talking aboutand I would have aired on in this
one. I would have aired onthe side of hit her by hitter in
the eighth inning. And if hestarted wrote if all of a sudden,
you know, balls are up,or this first four or five pitches the
velocity was, I would have Iwould have in the process. I wouldn't

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have let him go twenty pitches oflaboring, is my point, right,
I would have. I would haveknown with the naked eye watching him,
Okay, this guy's still going strong. If he has an eight or nine
or ten pitch inning and that's onehundred and four, then you run him
out there for the ninth inning andsee if he can get a quick inning.
If he doesn't, then you pullhim out. I get it.
They won the game. The guy'san All Star. But I also take

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into account, can we win thegame if he goes fifteen extra pitches and
gets to one ten, which wouldhave been sixteen extra pitches from ninety four.
Would that have changed the whole courseof his career in our team?
And I would I'm going to givethe player more credit than that. I
would have aired on the side ofwinning the game and nothing secure in the

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seventh, eighth, the ninth rightnow for this team, no, especially
the eighth and ninth. So Iwould have I would have. I would
have done. That's why I'm conflicted. I would have tried. I would
have tried. I'm greedy. Iwould have tried to get both the victory
and put him in rarefied air withonly a handful of pitch in the history.
They're throwing two no hitters in theseason. And it wasn't a cheap
no hitter. No, No,it wasn't. Especially you know, passing

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off to Pressley. He goes aninning, gives up a hit, no
walks, no case, and thenJosh Hater comes in gives up two hits
and an earned run. Yeah,I just it's not that big a deal
it. No, it's not.I'm not. It's not like we're questioning
Joe a spot in the decision.I actually am, are you I'm questioning

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it. I'm I'm not saying itwas wrong, but I am questioning it.
I never I didn't see him laboringat any point through the game,
and I understand. I guess maybethe old school part of me and I
could then if I'm wrong, fine, I really don't care if people think
I'm wrong about it or not.The old school part of me is these
are hard to come by, andin truth, the other side of it

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says, which which kind of goesagainst what I'm saying, is they're gonna
need every single thing they can't becauseget into the playoffs is gonna be hard
to do anyway, and you're gonnaneed renew Blanco. But I also lean
on the side of it's like withkids will be with young kids, like
in school, the more you puton them, and I know this from
training quarterbacks you probably do from trainingbaseball players, is the more I give

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them, not not to overload them, but the more I give them and
trust in them. The more theyrespond with their mental thinking about put heap
stuff on. Their capacity to bringstuff in is far better than people think.
And it's the same thing here.The way Blanco's going and ninety four
pitches has not bothered him this year. I would have I would have said,

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you know what, I trust he'sgoing to be fine, quickenning.
But I would have told him said, if you labor at all, I'm
taking you out. You get toone hundred and five pitches and we're struggling,
and you're getting a three through threeball counts to two or three hitters
in a row, I'll get youout. I don't think fifteen extra pitches
would have up here goes, Heregoes Tommy John surgery. If that's the
case, then he was gonna thatit was going to hit him somewhere along

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line anyway. So I just Iguess I leaned towards not not towards a
awards, but towards dude when itcomes to history. I guess I'm so
old school that I think, becauseguess what he's probably not going to do
and another season throw two no hitters. If you look at the list of
guys who haven't, you'd say thisis rare and we're winning and he's going

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good. I would have run himout for the eighth inning. So I
am I questioning it, questioning becauseI want answers, but not questioning the
spot I made the wrong decision.I'm just questioning, could you have still
done it by giving him another runat the first two or three batters,
first for first hit or second hitterin the next inning, in the eighth
inning to see But you know,I get it. It's not the biggest

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thing in the world. But youknow what, the chances of him being
in position to throw a third nohitter this year probably slim. Doesn't happen
very often, But I get yougot to preserve it to hope, and
especially with the Verlin I wonder ifVerlander was one hundred percent healthy, if
he lets Blanco go into the eighthinning knowing that, okay, we're not
down a pitcher again, I wonder, Yeah, And I'm just told and

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I'm the one that people can say, Seanie out of you, that's okay.
Yeah. I lean towards trusting thepicture more than I do worrying that
fifteen extra pitches is going to causehim. Tommy John Surgery Joe A.
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had no idea that they actually wentto SMU. I had no idea that

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Payne Stewart actually went to SMU.And then I the thing that got me
in the golf back in the UHin the late nineties was watching him win.
Payne Stewart, that is, watchinghim when that US opened, and
then of course, you know histragic demise. Anyways, congratulations to Brison

(26:33):
Decembo, Like, what a greatshot out of that bunker on eighteen and
the putt to is it? RoryMcElroy, What a sorry, class list
way to exit. He choked ontwo putts on sixteen and eighteen that were

(26:57):
like literally two steps away from thehole, and he couldn't, I said,
And then he just gets on hisyou know, his private jet and
just leaves refuses all interviews. I'mlike, dude, I'm thinking to myself,
like, what a classless move,Like you're a pro you're a professional,

(27:18):
you're sponsored by Nike. Like doyour interview except the fact that you
sucked and you choked, and likegive your fans the the interview that you
know they deserved. And he didn'tdo any of that. And all he
did was he didn't answer the questionsto finish the the the tournament there.

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All he did was, you know, the next tournament he shows up to,
that's all the media is gonna askhim about. And that's all I
have to say. He's just sucha class list player, and he's always
been a classes player. And everytime he chokes, which he's done throughout
his career, I enjoy it thanyou appreciate it. I know one thing

(28:11):
about Rory mclroy. If he ifhe wins the next tournament, he will
he will definitely do the interview thatthat I guarantee you. I get his
frustration, but this is strictly onRory mclroy and his putter, nobody else.
And I understand why you go partof me. I don't know.

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Did he stay around and did hecongratulate Deshambo? He did not. I
know he didn't stay around for interviews, but he didn't shake his hand.
I think the first guy out ofthe out of that when they signed their
card, you saw the picture ofRory in there. When to sign the
card. The first guy out walkingdown you saw a lot of other guy.
Sergio Garcia waited around and I knowbothers people that the live tour guy
won this. I know, Iknow it does. You know, there's

(28:52):
no doubt, But I think thatyou probably in a battle like that,
should have stood around Sergio Garcia,Sergei Garcia and found a way to walk
out there. It would have takento of your private plane, waits and
a couple extra minutes to say,you know, what phenomenal job, what
a great shot by you, andgo out there and shake his hand and
greet him and then go home.If you don't want to do interviews,

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that's on the guy. But thelosses strictly on Roy McElroy. He missed
two putts that could have either tiedor ended up winning the tournament because if
he makes one, imagine the pressurethat even more on sixteen he makes that
more pressure follows Deshambo as he comesdown the stretch with his sixteen, seventeen
and eighteen, and who knows ifhe hits the bunker shot properly. If

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he makes another bogie, McElroy wins. So I would imagine that Roy McElroy,
who I think is a great playerand a popular player. I would
imagine Roy McElroy and Mama should havestayed in at least high five or shaken
Deshambo's hand. I don't care aboutthe interviews, but normally it's if you're
gonna win, and you're gonna goin front of the mic, and might

(30:00):
i'd be wise to do it.When you lose, you don't have to
answer him long. But I thinka congratulatory handshake would have probably been the
right thing to do. That's whyI said I didn't know if he did
or not. I know he didn'tdo the interview, so I mean he
just you know, he won acool two point three two million dollars.
It doesn't the I'm gonna tell youwhat now, majors aren't running out.
He's still young, but this isten years in between major victories. Yes,

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and we keep you know, hekeeps getting close and can't close it
out. And it was all onhim on Sunday. So yeah, it
looks like from everything that I'm readinghere by one of the live golf writers.
He did the questions with the media, but he did not stay around
to congratulate. Brush and d Chambeaugot his stuff, him and his cat.
He got out of the clubhouse andbailed. That's the part that bothers

(30:42):
me more, not the media interviews, because I understand sometimes you think,
well, I don't want to saysomething that maybe I shouldn't, but you
missed the putts. What he shoulddo is I confess it's my fault.
I basically choked on sixteen and eighteenwith a total of about six feet a
putt with the two stay around andcongratulate, think then get on your private
plane and go. They weren't leavingwithout you. I mean, he should

(31:04):
have, you know, he shouldhave just just kept the divorce. You
know that's wrong. Why maybe thedivorce got him to to the point and
he was thinking about how happy hewas all the other holes and then thought,
and should I get divorce in themiss butt se Maybe it's the other
way, but he he, Imean, dude, he like, what
an absolute choke job. Holes.Now somebody like, well, I could

(31:26):
tell you Brandal shamblely, he'll he'llmake an excuse for I mean I thought
that Chamblee knew exactly who Imagine Dragonswas because it was Palpable who he wanted
to win that. I mean,he loves himself from Roy McElroy. Why
because Shambley and McElroy on the samelive tour hate. If you listen to
Shambley that dude, it's almost likethey they're like, Hey, Rory,

(31:48):
what are you going to talk about? I don't know. Let me finish
brushing my teeth and I'll come inand see and we'll talk about how we're
gonna rip live tour. I getit. Yeah, I just think if
you didn't do anything after that afteryou choked, probably would have been wise.
Did you to at least shake Deshambo'shand? Put it in perspective for
you. Greg Norman, remember whenhe blew the lead at the Masters.
Yeah, nineteen six or seven strokelead. He ended up losing by seven

(32:10):
to Nick Faldo. Was a thirteena thirteen, a thirteen score swing sixteen
hot lead. Yeah. I watchedlew it and he stayed and spoke to
the media for over thirty minutes.I was there. I watched him on
number sixteen where Verne lunquis is snaphoook one so far into the water with
a with a short iron. ThenI'm thinking, man, welcome to my

(32:30):
world. Dog. Yeah, buthe did, and Faldo just kept charging
and charging and won it. I'llnever forget that either. But Rory missed
two putts. I think that congratulatory. Maybe he'll call up to Shambo.
I don't know, but I thinka little handshake. I get the feeling
the way Deshambo's changed that he wouldhave stayed around or what if at least
when he came in found Rory andsaid congratulations. That that part's bush league.

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I like McElroy, but that's onhim. His caty didn't do it.
He has the putter in his hand. He choked sixteen and he choked
eighteen. Think it was a fortyfoot putt or a twelve foot putt they
were in. They were both insideof four feet three nine on one and
like three feet on the other.Those were makable. Deshamba had that putt
for three feet and he won itafter a fifty five yard bunker shot to

(33:13):
three feet. Yeah. It's hardto play uh, he was a better
clutch player. It's hard to playgolf with your hands around your neck,
Rory around your own neck, Yes, because it's choking. Well, yeah,
you can't even hold you can't holdyour own putter then or your nuts.
Yeah, and Bryce and Shambeau heldhis well, apparently put it on
the table sign Apparently they didn't dropon sixteen, and they sure didn't.
And we're saying this about one ofthe best golfers on in the world.

(33:35):
But you got to do it andclutch and he didn't. All right,
let's get back to these Houston astros. Joe Spatas spoke to the media after
the game and just and discusses thereasoning why he pulled Renelle Blanco going for
a second no hitter of the season. Also, will take your call seven
one three two two five seven nineyrolling along right here on The Sewan Salisbury
Show. The Sewn Salisbury Show continues. No, no, now you know

(34:04):
it's Mavericks Celtics Game five of theNBA Finals tonight in Boston. D Chambeau
went in the US Open on thePGA Tour. Seven one three, two
one two five seven ninety is thenumber to join. Let's get back out
to the phone lines and talk toRonnie well, my goodness, tripley,

(34:27):
if you don't mind punching up Ronniefor me, Ronnie, good morning,
good morning. I didn't hear youat first. I didn't get to hear
the whole game yesterday because I wasout enjoying a wonderful steak dinner with my
wife and three of her lady friends. So it was a great Father's day
for me in that regard. ButI don't understand why they didn't at least

(34:49):
let Blanco go out and pitch itstart the eighth inning to see what happened.
But the question I have is,I'm I'm not clear as to what
now is a leverage situation. Tome, a four run lead is not
a leverage situation now if it's athree run leader less. So my question,

(35:10):
I guess overall is what's more taxing? And I guess it depends on
each individual, each pitcher. Whatis more taxing a guy throwing one hundred
and ten one five and ten hundredand fifteen pitches or a guy pitching three
days out of five, four daysout of six. What has the potential

(35:32):
to be more damaging to the humanbody? For me, right, I
leave a little old school on thistoo. I would have run him out
there in the eighth inning just tosee because there's like four cats or five
dudes on the planet that have throwntwo no hitters in a season. I
just don't know. Maybe now ifhe'd had a history of like he's on

(35:52):
the two Tommy John's, I guess, and I know the Verlander injury,
that the lack of staff, Iwould have at least what if he had
an eight pitch eighth inning. Itwe're rarefied air here and you can go
and you're not secured of a victory. Yet, with the way at times
the bullpen at times this year hasbeen at the back end, Presley's had
his struggles, I'm not sure that. I mean, you're doing the best

(36:14):
giving the team the best opportunity ofninety four pitches. I personally think four
days in a row taxes you morethan twelve extra pitches fifteen xt pitches.
That's my opinion. I'm not themanager, and like they won and that's
fine, but I would have triedto get the most for my team.
And I have a hard time believingthat at the end of the year,
if he has twenty extra pitches thatyou're not used to throwing that went over

(36:36):
his his threshold, that that's goingto ruin his season or career for next
year. I have a hard timebelieving that. And if it was,
it was going to go anyway,so I would have run him out and
see how he did if it laboredearly in the eighth inning. Yeah,
me too, I think. Imean it's I don't understand it. And
but you know you're talking about theAstros needing to get a pitcher. Didn't

(37:00):
the guy from Baltimore. Didn't hehave to come out, and didn't he
on the aisle with elbow problems nowone of their aces. So I mean
pitchers are dropping like flies. Yesthey are. So gets sparky if you
can to talk about the Robert Ithink Robert shared a story in San Francisco

(37:21):
about the first game that was playedin Candlestick Park. Giants pitcher Billy O'Dell
back in sixty one or sixty two, whenever they opened was pitching, and
the Giants had a lopsided victory,and he got in trouble in the ninth
inning and gave up some runs andsome hits, and they asked Alvin Dark
why didn't you pull him. Hewent on ahead and pitched the whole game,

(37:43):
and Dark said, well, Ididn't pull him yet because he had
not yet pitched one hundred and fiftypitches. Yeah, his threshold, which
is I mean Nolan Ryan threw twohundred and twenty three pitches. I think
in a game once too. Soit's a different world we're living in,
my man. And unfortunately, Yeah, unfortunate. It's a really a good
way to put it, Ronnie,Thanks and happy Father's Day, man,

(38:07):
to enjoy it. My father's daywas good. How was yours? You
don't have dad? But how wasFather's Day? How'd you get through?
I know, losing you? Weboth miss out and stuff? How you
were busy with baseball so kept youoccupied? So we uh we played first
game on Sunday and bracket play wasat noon. And to be quite honest
with you, I was in afog like the entire game. It's just
a weird feeling. Man. Ididn't I don't have either my mom or

(38:29):
my dad anymore. So Mother's Dayis always tough. Father's Day is always
tough. Yeah, I was ina fog pretty much. Very thankful that
I was able to coach all weekend, which we did win the championship.
No big deal, it's another chip, really really, he said, yeah,
noig deal. Well really proud ofmy of my fourteen you bandit.
It was black twenty twenty eight team. So keeping you occupied, Yeah,

(38:50):
kept me occupied? Man. Drivinghome was a little uh, I mean
we we got done late last night. I didn't. I didn't get to
bed till damn near twelve thirty aftergetting home around drinking shore you and the
kids drinking champagne for the chick.I got the trophy in the truck in
the classic Elite bu gmc gmccre ifyou can drive it around like they do
the Stanley Cup in my classic EliteChevy sugar Land, Yeah, yeah,
absolutely can. Yeah, yeah,great, we'll put tripley in the back.

(39:14):
He can throw up thirteen years ina kind of like your domination thirteen
years a old GM dealer of theyear exactly want other chick domination. Uh
so that's good. Yeah. Imissed my pops too, And these days,
while there's supposed to be a celebrationbecause I am a dad, you're
not, which is awesome from myside of it. So that kind of
occupies it. Yeah, it's theother side of it where you're like,
man, I miss my dad becauseI always feel like, I mean,

(39:35):
I think I'm a great dad,but I always felt like my dad was
the best. At right, I'mtrying to live up to his expectator.
Mine was simply this wake up,breakfast, golf, nice steaks, cigar,
and a Manajatoi. Well you betterget you better get in all the
golf you can over the weekend becauseit's going to rain all damn week man.
Did you did? Yes? Aftergolf? Really? I mean after

(39:57):
steaks cigar than Manajatoi, which isa had wine names yeah, get so
don't get it. You know,Magey is right, I was going to
go a different route, but it'sa red wine. Yeah, yeah,
I know what you're say. It'sa freak show. But say damn it.
And you're just saying it on air? What because right? And Roddy
said he waited with his wife andthree of her lady for something. Hell
Roddy, Yeah, mama, school, what a gid? What a get

(40:21):
page your day? Daddy? Yeah? I did, and I had the
manage. He's like, yeah,I don't know, get freaky. I
was like, damn Sean Mama braManaga twine. Yeah it was. It's
a red Wine brand. There yougo. People treat you don't if you
don't, if you don't qualified,like, yeah, I want to live,

(40:44):
I want to go shot and youlet it marinate for in it right
there? Wait? What? Yeah? Yeah? Where people are like,
damn, what a freak show?Yeah, how Sean pulled that off?
I don't know. He gets golfand a three and a madgna a three
something to say, No, it'sjust the name of red Wine. You
got a steak cigar pretty much.What you did? You add you had,

(41:05):
you had, you had meat,you had a poll, and then
you had Minaja twalk. Yeah,and it happened to be red Wine,
not the one you're thinking about.So there you go. Good brand,
though, good good good brand.Yeah up, justin Verlander was scratched.
Not good. What did we say? Can't afford? Remember? And can
you afford? I mean you gota hope for more than a half season

(41:29):
that these five cats don't get hurt. Yep. And now at forty one
he's out yep. Now I don'tknow how long it's going to be,
but still I would imagine he's goingto miss a start. He already missed
one. Yep, Let's let's talkabout Justin Verlander. Scratch the neck soreness.
That's next on Sports Talk seven toeighty KD Houston, k TV HD
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(41:52):
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(42:16):
Old Berry, Salisbury, Houston.Okay, let's do this. Sean
Salisbury, there to usc truth,longtime friend, Seawn Salisbury, Bryan Lima,
go Lobos. This is the SeanSalsbury Show, Real quick. Joe
spot Us spoke to the media yesterdayand discussed why he pulled Renel Blanco as

(42:40):
Blanco took a no hitter into theeighth inning. Blanco seventeens pitch, no
hits, no runs, three walks, eight ks, ninety four pitches e
r A down to two point fourto three, seven and two on the
season. And this is Skipper Joespot Of talking about that decision. Uh
yeah, he was. You know, I just told him how proud I
am of what he's doing. Youknow, it's this is the guy that

(43:05):
came out of nowhere and he continuesto perform at a high level. He
is really has picked his team up, you know, through injuries and and
some you know, he goes outthere and he does things where we need
him to, we need we needhim to step up and he does.
And just proud of the work he'she's done. And I told him that,

(43:27):
you know what if if if thefifth inning wasn't that long, you
know, I would have allowed himto go back out there. But but
he but he on the studio.So Joe's Botta talking about Renel Blanco.
Obviously the fifth inning for Blanco iswhat got the pitch count up, and
that was Joe's Botta's decision on thatI and I respect it. I don't

(43:49):
have to agree with the full decision. I get it though, Like I
said, That's why I'm conflicted.I understand, but I also understand the
rarefied situation. And he'd have beenrarefied rarefied here had he he goes two
more innings, I would have seenhow he pitched the first batter or two
in the eighth inning. That's justme and the old school part of me.
People disagree with I think we've takenspecialization to a time when I think

(44:13):
it's overboard, kind of like havinga pool table in your house uses up
space, doesn't get used much.I've had one, and it's the most
it's overrated. So even if youlike pool, having one in your house
is over rigged. Like you goto an Aaron BB, everybody thinks put
a pool table on there. Thatpool table's used more for something else.
Flip top zoid zoidified. Yeah,used for I never want and I like

(44:37):
pool I haven't had in my home. But after that it's like, nah,
no thanks, So for me,overrated gets back to this. So
I and mine maybe overrated thinking wedon't need specialization all the time. And
was really going out there in theeighth inning to see how he was holding
up with twenty extra pitches of ruinedthis season. I get it, and

(45:00):
I respect Joe from making the decision. That's why he's the manager. I'm
conflicted because I get his side,but I also that's the part where I
lead a little old school like Isaid earlier, Brian, I probably would
have given him an opportunity to proveto me he didn't belong out there.
I would have gone hit her byhitter yep, running back out there.
And if he walks the first guy, I walks the first guy, I

(45:22):
pull him out because it tells me, okay, four if he walks him
on four pitches and the rest ofit. To me, it just did
ninety four pitches. Seems like thatwhen you're going that good. I don't
know one hundred and ten pitches.Sometimes I don't know why we make such
a big deal over it. AndI understand his innings threshold and all that,
but he's gonna hit him at somepoint, So what are you gonna

(45:44):
do. Just start pitching him fourinnings, five innings, because if he's
got eighty pitches in five inches,pull him out, because you're afraid that
at some point later and you're gonnaneed him to grind the whole time.
But I do get with Joe,and I respect it, and I don't
have a problem. It's not ahardcore problem with the decision he made.
I would have chosen to let himrun out there A little bit in the

(46:04):
eighth, an AC would look like, yeah, I probably would have gone
hit her. To hit her,Let's see how it goes, yep,
and monitor that pitch count seven onethree, two, one two five seven
ninety. Let's get back out tothe phone lines talking Renel Blanco, Will
House. What's your thoughts on RenelBlanco and the decision to have Joe spot
I had to pull him? Well, I think because of the recent revelation

(46:25):
with Justin Erlander going down, Ithink they're they're probably a little bit overreacting,
but I think you guys are spoton. Go hit her by hit
her if he gets into trouble.Yeah, I mean, you pull him.
It gives someone time. I wassitting there going, okay, well,

(46:45):
if you pulled him, maybe hecan be the first guy to ever
have a combined no hitter and ano hitter that he threw in his first
what fifteen starts of his career.But you know, we know that that
didn't go Runnell's way, and luckilyit wasn't a close game, so it
wasn't that detrimental. But I justthink they should have given him more because

(47:08):
he did start a little bit laterin his career and get really get going.
He doesn't have a lot of treadoff of his tires. So it's
not like you've got a guy who'sthrown one hundred and forty plus innings for
four or five seasons and you're worriedabout his durability. Surely, I mean,
he's kind of a he kind ofhas an old school pitcher built.
You know, I'm talking about likeyou know, and and Sean, you

(47:30):
you know, we grew up watchingthese guys, these big body pitchers,
the Carltons, the Ryans and guyslike that, and they just seem to
be more a durable Renel may bethat guy. And so those are my
thoughts. And then I want toask you guys, and I know the
asking price is probably gonna be high, but is there any chance we try

(47:52):
to make an offer to the WhiteSox for Crochet, the second pitcher that
we're gonna face in this series whenwe go to Chicago. Personally, don't
think and thanks for the call onman, I don't think there's any way.
I don't know if it'll be Crochet. I do know this, there's
no way, especially in light ofwhat's going on with the Verlander situation and
who knows how long. There's notenough depth not to go get somebody.

(48:14):
They're gonna have to part with somebodythey don't want to part with in their
farm system. They just are theyare. If you really believe in Dana
Brown's I mean, if you're DanaBrown, you believe this in Jim Crane
and Joe Espada and whoever else ismaking decisions on this club. If you
really believe that you're not out ofit, that you've got a chance to
go win this thing and you're aWorld Series threat this year in twenty twenty

(48:36):
four, you can't think that thisis gonna happen without going to get another
picture. And I'm not sure one'senough, because if we're counting on Garcia
and mccullor's to be great the secondhalf of the season and log innings,
I think you're making a mistake.Not that they can't, but if that's
what you're counting on, then Ihope you're carrying a rabbit's foot in your
front pocket or two of them.So for me, I'm with you.

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I think they app even if Erlanderwas healthy. You have to go get
a pitcher. You absolutely have to. Matter of fact, give me Dubond
right now, the way he saidto put him at first base or low
perfito, whatever you're gonna do overthere, it's far more important. Arms
you saw on the weekend what theydid with Hunter Brown and with Renelle Blanco.

(49:19):
The difference in even if you don'thit well, look what happens those
guys pitch gems over the weekend,and you know, Friday and Sunday and
there you go, so and yousee what happens when you're starting. When
you're starting pitcher doesn't pitch well,on Saturday, you get, you get
your ass handed to you. SoI don't think there's any doubt. I'm

(49:40):
not sure you can stop at onepitcher by the trade deadline starter. And
if frontline starter is gonna hurt becauseyou're gonna have to give up something you
don't want to give up. Andyes, absolutely I do believe it.
I think it's the biggest guarantee inbaseball right now that the Astros are gonna
go get a pitcher minimum one.In my opinion. If they don't and
they stand, don't go get apicture because they're not. And remember it

(50:01):
takes two to deal with you.It's not like free agency. We just
got to pay more money, Wegive them more years. This is somebody's
got to want to deal with you. But if they do, that means
you're you have given them the bestin return. If they don't go get
a picture, it tells me thatthey don't think they're a World Series team.
Point out. I don't want tohear we feel good about a rotation.

(50:22):
No, there's no way. There'sno way you feel good about your
rotation right now. You may feelgood about what some guys are doing,
yeah, but the depth of it, there's no way. If you don't
go get a picture, you're tellingyou you're saying we're not a World Series
team. Period. Garrett Crochet forthe White Sox. Last five outings,
seven innings, six innings, sixsix and six, thirteen strikeouts, ten

(50:43):
strikeouts, eight strikeouts, eleven strikeouts, four strikeouts. What's the last White
Sox pitcher they missed out on?Uh? What was his name? Yeah?
There you go. You left thatone alone. Right when he was
traded, when he when people weretrying to move him, yep, and
he eventually got moved. Right.Yeah, Well, here's an opportunity to
go get somebody, whether it's crochetor somebody's you have absolutely and you know

(51:05):
what, you're gonna have to giveup somebody you don't want to give up.
You're just going to have to.I mean, if you have to.
If if excuse me, if theydon't, like you said, if
they don't make a move, thenthat shows you everything. There's no matter
what they say to you. Ifthey don't make a move. And Verlander
misses a starter, two more andhe's out last guy who had neck injury,

(51:27):
came back, lost velocity, andhe's out for the year. I'm
not saying that's gonna happen to Verlander, but you know they don't need the
two starts is two starts too manyfor an injury. And we know Verlander
is a grinder. There's no doubtno matter what you tell anybody in an
interview or the way you go,if you don't go get pitching or at
least do everything you can and offerup something that you don't want to give
up but may have to. Ifyou tell me, pitching wins championships,

(51:50):
which they say all the time whenDana Brown says it, Jim Crane's committed
to it. If that's the case, then you're saying we're good, but
we're not a World Series team.Let's get to the steakout next right here
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Time for the stakeout. Sean Brynand Tripley Astros off today coming off of
a series win against the Tigers.Astros broadcaster Steve Swarkson and joined the show
at eight thirty this morning. MAVsand Celtics Game five of the NBA Finals
tonight, Boston, Bryce and dChambeau winning the US Open. All right,
Sean for the stakeout. It featuresone of your favorite teams in all

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sports, the Boston Red Sox.Tristan Cassis was on the ESPN broadcast.
Because you know, we love ingame dugout interviews. We also love our
Astros in Houston and all across theLone Star State. There's no doubt about
you want to get go go Astrosfired out. No no, no,
no, don't ruin the segment.Okay, I would just enhance it to

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be honest with you. But TristanCasses on that broadcast spoke about an interesting
story from when he was around sixyears old and what his dad did for
him playing baseball, and this ishow it sounded. So I'm in coach
pitch and you know, I'm soyoung, I don't really know what's going

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on at this point. Still,I'm still just playing baseball just to burn
calories and get out there and getsome sun right right. And you know
I had out one day and Icome back to the dug out crying pissed,
And you know that's that's what asix year old does. He sits
on the bench and he cries andhe doesn't want to go out there when
you know his team's playing defense.So my dad, you know, being
the dad that he is trying toteach me the lessons that he did in

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his own special way, came intothe dugout. He actually grabbed me by
my shirt, dragged me to theline, and Looney tunstyle kicked me out
onto the field and actually had oneof my best friends that I went to
high school with later he ended upplaying pro ball. His mom actually called
child services. I'm my dad atthe field. No no, no,
for there's no joke at the field. I see my dad go away in

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the cop car, gets arrested tosend the nice of jail. But in
that day, that day, mydad taught me a super valuable lesson that
not not a lot of people know. And it's that I had a responsibility
to my teammates, I had aresponsibility to my coaches, to the parents
that showed up that day, allthe fans who were at that little league
game, whatever it may be,to go out there and give my best
effort, no matter how I wasfeeling on the bench, no matter what

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I was going going through that dayor whatever little hardship that I was feeling
when I got out, that Istill apply every single time, because sometimes
I just want to sit down onthis bench after I get out and I
want to weep and I want tocry. But that's that's not how baseball
is. So yeah, I lovemy dad to death. Well I wouldn't
have this opportunity without him, Butyeah, funny little excerpt that's about that.

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That's the type of that. Mydad is the Casses I love him
for the Red Sox talking about wherehis dad literally kicked him out onto the
field and kicked him in the rearend. Well, mom called child services
and he got or his dad gotarrested and sent to jail for the night.
If that happened when I was playingMy God, all the dads would
be arrested. My dad would havetold child Services to kiss his ass.

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Not not literally, but are youkidding me? And the kid now one
of the most valuable lessons in hislife. Sometimes Gladys Kravitz on the on
Bewitched, the one who stares intoyour window when she walks down the street
looking to be in everybody's business,Is that any relation to Lenny Kravitz.
No, Lenny Kravitz wouldn't stoop tothose levels. Okay, I listen.

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I don't have a problem with it, do you. I think in today's
society we probably need up somebody's aspiel toed boot up a ten or twelve
year old's assay at that time.Wow, that's yes, well guess what,
my old man. And nothing likethat. But I can remember similar
I was nine playing in the inthe in the biggerly of nine. I

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got pulled up. So I wasplaying at that point in time. It
was like ten through twelve, right, but if you're a good player,
they pulled some. So I waspitching and the umpire wasn't given strikes that
I thought were strikes, and thenyou know, he was getting his snow
cone after and you know, atypical little league. And my dad hated
bad attitudes and bad body language,but he never said anything. My dad
wasn't a yellerish screamer at the game. And I kept arguing with the ump

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and I came over there one timeand I threw my glove against the dugout
and my pop saw it and itwas one of those I was basically whining
on the mound the whole time,right just and my dad after the game,
he wiped out of the game.We're walking out to the parking lot,
and my dad at six five,about two sixty five and eighty second
airborne loving man didn't raise a handto me in my face any of that.
But we all got spanked. I'msure you did too, right,

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oh yeah. Walking out to thecar, my mom's just my mom's a
talker, and she's in one earand by pop's finally he didn't have to
say anything. We're walking out.He put his index finger in my chest
about a dozen times, all aboutthe amount of times I whined during the
game at nine like a little bit, right, yeah, don't you ever
embarrass your team like that again,or yourself or this fan. And I'm

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telling you, by the time Igot in, I felt like my chest
was sticking out my back and itwasn't. It was just that little point
index finger to the chest. Andguess what I never did again in my
life. I remember that as muchas any baseball hit, any All Star
game, any home run, anyany strikes that got called with the rest
of my the rest of my life, great lesson. I can tell you

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exactly this where we were. Ican drive you to the parking lot did
Our car was parked in at DeerValley Little League in Phoenix, Arizona.
A finger in the chest about adozen times from my pops was all he
needed to do. And make surethat that don't embarrass yourself attitude was he
didn't even know. I don't evenremember how the result of the game went.
To be honest with you, andnine pitching my first game up there,

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you know, excited with twelve yearolds right ten and eleven and twelve
year olds. My dad was havingno part of it. So Cass is
good for you and good on yourown man, And the life lesson was
probably worth going to jail for thepops. That's court, you know what
I'm saying. Come on, man, that today, this day and age,

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there'd have been fifteen of them doingthat. Yeah, I don't have
problem with what his dad did.And you know what, good on his
dad. Go in there, Goin there, spend a little time.
What are they gonna do take yourscholarship away for life because you steal code
boot your kid to tell him tohave a better attitude and embarrass him a
little bit, and to this dayhe remembers that story probably more than any

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hit in the game you ever got. I'm talking about baseball hit, not
hit you know what little Lootie tunesand he laughs about it. Now,
that was worth. That was worthPops getting taken away in the car.
At the time, it probably feltdevastating. What do you do spend two
hours in there to send his asshome? Okay, oh well yeah,
times have change. Talk about specialization, a specialized kick to the ass sometimes

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work, or a finger to thechest. Yeah. I feel like my
chest was caving in when my Popswas doing it. And you know what,
there's no greater, better loving fatherwhen he was alive than my dad
to me. So you know what, And it's when you remember that more
than you do the home run inLittle League. You know, it was
impactful. Yeah, so that wasthat? So good for That's a great
story. And the fact that theylet him finish it while the game's going

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on. Those are the dugout storiesI want to hear. Yeah, not
well, we're giving it one hundredand ten percent. Man, that fastball
was up. I mean, suchyour ass down. I know. For
me, all my dad had tosay if you don't like it, go
to the truck. That's how you, you know, make sure you snap
in the gear or your mom sayingit's okay, keep talking. Your dad
gets home at five point fifteen.As you well know, Mom, I'm
really sorry. I love you.You need help. Yeah, exactly got

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to take a bad idea, Yeah, yeah, bad idea. Justin Verlander
scratched from his start with some necksoreness, neck discomfort. Dane Brown,
the general manager, spoke over theweekend about Justin Verlander. Could he be
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Don't wait there for the Sean SalisburyShow continued Maverick Celtics Game five of the
NBA Finals tonight in Boston. Brysonand Chambeau. When's the US Open?
Before we hear from uh Ashro's gennermanager Dana Brown, what he said about

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just and Verlander to get out tothe phone line seven one three two one
two five seven Iety talking Astro Steve, welcome in, Thanks for Rodin,
Thanks guys, great show as usual. Hey, I was at the game
yesterday and uh, you know,it was a padd house. It was
Father's Day, and I don't thinka well, I didn't realize that Blanco
had a no hitter going in tillabout the fifth fifth inning, and then

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all of a sudden in the sixthinning, things got a little louder,
you know, for every strike,and then in the seventh inning he got
even louder. And I mean peoplewere buzzing. I mean people were talking,
you know about the no hitter andhey, Father's Day, I'm gonna
see my first no hitter. Andlet me tell you something, I've never
been in a place where the windwas taken out of a place so fast

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as when you saw Presley come in, and I I it was something that
I've never experienced before because everybody's justkind of like, oh no, And
you know, I understand that themanager cannot dictate or let the cry dictate
who who plays and who doesn't.But you know, right now, Presley

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kind of has an are about himthat people are not real pleased with some
of the situations that he's come into. And and let wins. I don't
know if that was the right timefor it, because number one, you
had, you had a packed house. But when he let up, when
he gave up that first hit,there was some booze. I mean,
there was quite a few booze inthe in the crowd that you know,

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I don't know, it's it's baseball. You know, you're not going to
see it. Uh, you're notgoing to keep too many teams down with
a no hitter. But at leastwe had a chance. And my next
thing is it has nothing to dowith baseball. But I've been watching,
you know, they've been watched playingthe NBA Finals when Houston played the Knicks.

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And let me tell you something.The basketball compared to then and now
you the banging in the and thehitting and the running into and the it
is a completely different game than whatit is now. And I tell you
what, back back when the Rocketswere in the finals, you had to
be a man to go in themiddle there and play against the la Chalon

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and Ewing and Oakley and those guys. Because let me tell you something,
Lebron wouldn't have lasted two seasons inthat era of basketball. I'll hang up
and listen. Great show, guys, Thank you, Steve Lebron physical enough
to handle it. He would havehad to change his approach on the flopping

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because they wouldn't dealt with it.That part talent physical, no doubt his
game travels from nineteen hundred to twentyseventy. But it's the Would he have
been able to handle the beat downphysically? Yeah? But would it have
worre him down mentally because he wouldn'thave been able to do the things that
he does. But as far asspecimens go, he did the physical appearance.

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It's the inside toughness part of it. Would he have been able to
handle it without flopping and doing allthat? But there's no doubting how skilled
the guy is, whether you likehim or not. But I understand what
Steve's saying on the astro side.I felt the same way. I mean,
I I just I would have willsay it and say it and say
it This is Joe spot his decisionteam to pull a guy, and I
respect it. I would have doneit different and mine may be wrong,

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but I think in rarefied here andwith the final score is I think for
to one, four to one threeruns to me, the way this team's
had that game was not secure.It was not scre It was secure when
Blanco was on a mound. Yeah, so run him out there in the
eighth inning and see how he pitchesbatter to batter, hit her to hit
her, and see if you canget him in an area where there's only

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what five guys have ever done it? Yeah, two no hitters in a
season, So not at the expenseof sacrificing your team, but five or
eight extra pitches to see where heis, wouldn't I don't think would have
had an impact on his career ina negative way. And if that's the
way we're approaching it, then we'retoo specialized and too baby. We baby
people too much. So old schoolpart of me and it may be wrong,

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and I don't care if it's wrong, would have left him in.
But Joe Spottanos's team, I'm assumingbetter than most of us know because we're
on the outside. But Renelle Blanco, I think he deserved the right to
go back out there. I thinkhe's earned it this year. Yeah,
I think for inning threshold, whatis the threshold? Yeah, I know
one twenty five. Well, whatif he has to go one to fifty
this year? You coulna just pyou're gonna put him in the bullpen because

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he's he's reached his inning threshold.No, I just think and this is
not This is how I think they'rethinking, right, I agree. I
think they're thinking, we need tobe extra careful with this because at some
point you're gonna hit that wall andwe don't have anybody else. Well,
they're gonna hit it with Araghetti,Yeah, you're gonna hit it with Brown.
Yeah. Sure. Didn't look likeHunter Brown's gonna get because he was
magnificent on Friday Delt he was allhe looked like, he looked like an

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ace. Yeah, guy was lightsout. But the other side of it
is, yeah, I am,I'm with you. I think that's how
they think. And I'm convinced theoptics of Saturday changed his approach for Sunday
because of what happened with Arraghedty,the injury to Erlander and knowing you need
that. But either way, there'sno team in baseball that had I mean,

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they have to go get pitching.Yeah, there's no straight deadline,
and it's gonna be it's going tosting a little because they're going to give
up somebody if they do this thatthey don't want to give up. Yeah,
And here's the problem. You justwant a series, and you are
nine games back of the West becauseSeattle manhandled the Rangers, they did not
the nine games back, So youfelt good about your weekend and lost ground.

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You lost ground. You are nownine Listen, that's how difficult this
climb is going to be. Youthink they're catching the Maritors this year.
No, that's an eighteen game swingto tie them for the division lead and
they are seven back of the wildcard. Look, I know there's plenty of
time left. How long are wegoing to say that, Well, yeah,
we can't. We got to stopsaying that there's still plenty of time.

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But yet, like I just said, you want a series. You
took two out of three from theDetroit Tigers and you are now nine back
in your division. I've been toldthat this is not a seller's team and
that this team's a championship caliber WorldSeries team by people by bye by Dana
Brown sotulesat. Yeah, So withthat in mind, and he's always said
that we want pitching. If youbelieve that it is, you have no

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choice but to go get pitching inpart with somebody if it's going to help
your team, you absolutely have to. If they don't nobody deals with them,
or if they're not willing to giveup certain player to go get a
World Series, you'll know all youneed to know about how they feel about
this team in twenty twenty four,in about within the next thirty days.

(01:09:43):
Let's see where are we at inJune almost, shall I? Yeah,
I take that back in the nextforty five days. Yeah, I'll tell
you what. I wouldn't wait tillthe deadline. Is desperate, because you
know the other teams that are desperateare going to be vine for the same
cat you are. I would tryto make an offer now and get the
pitcher here now, to try togo get somebody great specially four two.
Well, I mean you you cutthe dead weight that you had of Jose

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Bray. You on Friday afternoon aroundone o'clock, and then you turn around
and have to scratch and Justin Verlander. Didn't we interview Dana Brown at nine
thirty on Friday? We did,We did? Yeah? Yeah, sure?
Did they have to have pitching andI'm not sure one's enough? Yeah,
no, it's not. And speakingof Dana Brown, he spoke about
the Justin Verlander injury. Did whatdo we think that played a role in

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the Renel Blanco? Uh? Nohitter pulling him out after ninety four pitches.
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phone lines at seven one, three, two, two five seven, And
this is Dana Brown talking about JustinVerlander being scratched. It's doing it a

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little bit better. So it doesn'tlook like he's gonna have to have an
il so which which is the mostimportant? Uh, you know, so
maybe we can get him back forgame two or Game three, you know,
and in Chicago on our next roadtrip, so that'll be Wednesday or
Thursday hopefully. Uh, that's whatit's looking like. You know, today
he felt better, So things arelooking earning up and up. Is a

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hope that because I know Verlander talkedabout it, he'd been dealing with it
for a few weeks. Is thehope that maybe he can completely put this
this next issue behind him. Yeah, And that's why we wanted to give
him the extra rest. You know, it lined up that we had some
days off, so we we wouldthrow some many other pictures on uh you
know, normal day's rest, andso, uh, you know, hopefully
this works out for us, andyou know, we've taken a beating in

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our rotation with injuries, and uh, you know, hopefully this will help
us turn the corner. That's aAstros general manager Dana Brown speaking about Justin
Verlander and the neck discomfort. Uh. Christian Javier earlier in the season had
neck discomfort. He missed almost amonth on the il. So hopefully with
Justin Verlanders it's not as serious.He could pitch this series in Chicago,

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so we will just have to waitand see how it goes. They cannot
afford for him to miss a coupleof starts. Seven one, three,
two point two, five, sevennine, And let's start in order our
longest wait, Brian, what's yourthoughts on the Astros? Hey get up
from them, guys. First ofall, regards to what Dana has said,
I'll listen to y'all when he comeson y'all show most of the most
of the time in that if I'mnot tied up in unapployment, and i

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will say, you know, ifhe says hey, and he thinks he'll
start He's always been fairly candid whenit comes to things like that, Like
obviously he's not gonna tell you.Yeah, hey, we're about to release
a pray you so get your paperready. But when it's come to injuries
or hey, you know, guysmay start or get some playing time.
Normally he's always been fairly candid,like, hey, I would expect it

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to happen here in the next dayor two, and then normally it does.
Now whether that's somebody dictating it orwhat, but I don't think you
know, so I feel better aboutBerlander coming back on yesterday. We don't
obviously know what the conversations were betweenDiaz and Espada and Blanco and that,
and it may have been look,I'm done. I had three straight walks.

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I labored to get through it,and based on a scor's decision,
you could have easily given a basehit because that ball was so slowly shopped
and Gregman had to charge hard onthe air that was charged to Bregman.
I've never heard a cheer go upas loud for an air as I did
at the game yesterday to keep thatno hit or attact. But the official

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score, I think, in mypersonal opinion being there and watching it,
I think you could have also ruledout a base it the only reason I
think it was charged and eric becausethe throw is a little why but that
was such a tough play to makebecause he was playing back so far.
So if it is, you know, if it's rule de Bayse hit,
we're not even discussing this. Hey, Bran, I'm out let me ask

(01:15:12):
a question. Did did you werethere in person? Did? I don't
feel like he was laboring a lot, but did it look different in person?
Did Blanco look like he was laboringto you, like, just just
the way that some of those walks. I mean, there were probably a
couple of close pitches, but righton some of the misses he had to
just look like Dow when he startedhe was gassed. It looked like he

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was starting to steamroll a little bit. I think he got bailed out too
by that comebacker right to him,because that could have easily gone. And
the spot is sitting there watching itand listens to him. Right, That's
the one thing I always guard against, it like saying he's one hundred percent
wrong. We don't know, Andthat's their conversation in private. What goes
on in a dugout? You know, if a guy says I I got

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nothing left in the tank, Iget it. And I'm still sure it
was tough on Joe because you wentand the pitcher who wants to know hitter
in as far is getting to yourpoint about Dana Brown. Right the second
the interview was over, when wewent to break, I looked at Brian
and I said, the Brave Yousituation is gonna move faster than we think,
or that it's gonna it's gonna movequickly, because like you can almost
tell during the interview that it wouldthey were they were at the end of

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the tunnel, right. It feltlike that light had had had started to
flicker out with that situation, nodoubt. Good call by you. Yeah,
and and so like I said,I don't have a problem with with
the Blonde Co decision because we obviouslyyou don't know, but I was at
this first one, and obviously Iwould have loved to have been, you
know, there yesterday. But there'sno guarantee that obviously that they hold on

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to it. Sure you'd love tosee it, but you gotta look at
what happened in JP France last year. He was doing well until about early
August and then he hit a walland I think as e Ra was up
near seven for those last six orseven starts, and you have to guard
against that when you have zero pitchingdepth. Last year you actually had pitching
depth you could go to them andget You don't have that this year.

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So I think all of that factoredinto it, and real quick on de
Shamba. I think it was reallycool. The fact that he went to
ask him you Payne was a big, big motivation for him, and to
win it twenty five years on thesame course after Payne Stewart won it there
at Pinehurst. I think it waspretty cool and great. Eighteenth pole right
different one was at one was bunker, but a dramatic finish at eighteen,

(01:17:25):
no question about it. That wasawesome. Yep. I have a good
day guards great stuff. Appreciate it, Brian. Yeah, see on TV,
you may not think even with acouple of walks that he gets they
weren't making hard contact with him,right. I understand the play he's talking
about the air and the comebacker toBlanco, but even through walks sometimes it
doesn't mean a guy's labor, right, But in person it may look different.
And a couple of balls that youcan say strikes, but you can

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say that about any picture. SoI get it. But again the old
school, I mean, you stillgot to no, no, go finish
it. Yeah, if we can. Now he walks the lead off guy
in the eighth, maybe you're saying, Okay, it's done. Mechanics are
starting to suffer. But I doget it. In the long run,
it's probably for Joe and Blanco maywork dividends for them. I just I'm
greedy when it comes to want tosee a guy get a no hitter,

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and that's probably more emotion than itis thinking baseball terms. Yeah, especially
with him throwing one earlier this season. That's right. Yeah, you're talking
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Houston. Okay, let's do this. Sewn Salisbury to usc Truth,
longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury, BryanLima, go Lobos. This is the
Sean Salisbury Show. Excuse me,was DFAD on Friday. We're going to
discuss that this segment. But beforewe get to that, let's get back

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out to the phone line seven onethree two one two five seven ninety Brandon,
thank you for holding. Good morning. How do you feeling about the
Astros? Hey? We on,sure did, buddy, They're off today.
You excited about the game tomorrow?Yeah? We're now Blanco through a
no hitter through seven hey, butI'm happy. I was he gotta he

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got a pretty honey cases you have. He had eight strikeouts. Yeah,
I was goot to say that,what time are we playing? Uh?
What time are we playing? Tomorrow? Seven? Seven to ten is the
first pitch in Chicago? Yeah,I hope I can beat Chicago. Yep,

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me too. Thanks for calling,Brandon. We'll talk tomorrow. Right,
Hi, let's talk to Roger.Roger, what's on your mind about
this trade deadline for the Astros?Well, I just think that we need
two pitchers. I mean, weneed some inning eaters. Right. Looks
like we're gonna we're gonna be fightingsome injuries regardless of how it goes,
uh moving forward. So I justthink that I don't know how they're gonna

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do it. I have no idea. I don't do and way above my
pay grade. I'm just thinking wejust need some some guys that can kill
up some innings for us in thatregard and the discipline everything with the parents.
Uh, it's just not a sportssetting. But I remember, like
it was yesterday man, and andit's uh, you know, it straightened
my act up real quick. Youknow, I was, uh, you

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know, the last one born.I was I was the the youngest,
so you know, I got togo with murder. And then you know
we are in the grocery store,and you know, as disciplinary works,
you know, my mom was thebouncer and my dad was the cooler.
You get that from that from thefirst Roadhouse though you know she did she
did most of the work. Well, my dad had to do it,
you know. I mean that meantyour ass for real? So uh and

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uh, Roger hit the dumb tripleE. MI saved the story because we
were at the grocery store. Butyou can't drop an S bomb, No,
ro We what S bombs? Don'tdiscriminate against stories. If you've got

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a good story you wanted, butan S bomb is it covers the whole
Gamut can't do it. Damn itto Gammut, you can't do it.
Sounded like it was gonna be agood story from our guy. Man.
Well, you get opportunities, man, you got to make the most of
them. And so you mean,do you're telling me our guy Rodge,

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I call him Rodge today it wasgonna be a good story because I know
he's telling about some discipline with Momand Pops that he referred to the cooler
in the roadhouse is you're telling me? Rog Rory mcelroyd. He did right
there, going good? Has itall? Missed a three foot puts choke?
Man? Rory? What are wedoing? Man? How are you

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gonna miss three putts? Three?You bogie three out of the last four
holes and you sixteen and eighteen totalunder seven feet combined? Sorry, guys,
he was he lost, man,I lost? Man, Yeah,
it was bad. He left iton the table. It's nobody but him

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left it on the table. Andhe left it on the table sadly,
he sure did. And Deshamble keptgrinding. He couldn't hit a fair way
to save his life, But mandid he in a scramble, like a
two man scramble. You'd be callingthat ham and egging. Yeah, he
and his caddy were hamm and eggingtheir way through some tough lite. I
mean, got some clean lives,but from tough areas. And you will

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never see a better fifty five yardbunker shot in a major when all's you
have to when you have to makepar to pick that thing properly and hit
it to three feet and get theroll out you want hit it exactly where
he wanted to hit it. Toughto do, man, tough to friggin
do. Yep, he winning winsthe US Open. On Friday, we
had Dana Brown, Astro's general manager, and he spoke about jose A bray

(01:25:08):
You and that situation, and thenjust a couple of hours later, at
one o'clock Friday afternoon, they DFAjose A bray You. He said,
uh, let's go back. Hesaid, we're quote, we're consistently having

(01:25:30):
conversations about making a tough decision.End quote. That was with you,
uh talking about jose A bray Youand being up against time with his struggles.
Dana Brown made the decision to DFAjose A bray You on Friday.
They're still going to be on thehook for all of his contract, but
he is not going to be inthe lineup or on the roster anymore this
season. Yeah, I listen,you you never want the human element of

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you know that comes into play,because listen, the guy was grinding,
trying his hardest. It just justdidn't have it. The game was diminished
and damn near gone. And buthe's gonna be okay because nineteen and a
half million reasons why he'll be finefinancially, it still doesn't take away you

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can't just play baseball that long andbe good just for the money he's been
and he worked his ass off totry and get himself just what just it.
It was time to make a move. So you always the human element.
You don't like see fan being uprootedand going, but for nineteen and
a half million dollars, you probablyfeel sorry, goes away quickly when you're
trying to win games. It's adecision that, unfortunately for a lot,

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had to be made. Yeah,it had to be weighed like three weeks
ago, it's a well probably longerthan that. Yeah, but baseball,
you know, baseball decisions. Ithad to be made. Nobody, you
know, nobody likes see anybody losetheir gig. But for the betterment of
the team, they needed to clearspace there. They just did, and
there'll be a better team when somebodyelse is in the lineup. They weren't
running out their best nine. Theywere not. It's just simple. It's

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and that's hardcore, but simple.I think what that showed me, especially
with how well I say quick eventhough we all I think we can all
agree it should have been done earlier. But just the simple fact of they
didn't wait, excuse me, untilthis coming week. They waited or not
waited. They got it done Fridayand Joe Spot and Dana Brown both were
on the same page saying, weneeded more production from that first base position,

(01:27:23):
and we gave him an opportunity andhe could not figure it out,
and they're going to need more productionfrom the first base and didn't that night,
didn't Dubon Homer? Who? Dubonwho? Mo? Duban you went
you talk about Doobie? Yes,there you go. Thank you, Thank
you. I appreciate that. Makesure you get it correct. Thank you,

(01:27:44):
thank you. Dubon. Didny HomerFriday night playing first base? Yeah?
He sure did. Yeah, oneinstantly went power power, Cogne,
wow, and and elevate the position. So you're probably going to see more
of him there. But I wonderwhat the platoon situation is. I would
like him to settle on somebody andplatoon the backup fair enough, so you

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know what's going to happen now,Joey little Braffito, Well, he so
he wasn't eligible to be brought backup. He should be eligible to be
brought back up at some point lateron this week. They are going to
bring him back up. I wouldnot be surprised if you see him get
some run at first base. He'sgoing to get at bats, he said
on Friday. And I'll tell youwhat. The closer we get to that
trade deadline, the Pete Alonzo rumorsare going to heat up. The Vlad

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Guerrero Junior rumors are going to heatup the Garrett Crochet, the stud pitcher
for the White Sox, is goingto heat up. Okay, stop right
there. Yes, you named threenames correct. Alonzo, Vladdie is slaty,
Vlad Guerrero, and Crochet not tobe confused with with Croque, but
it doesque. Croquet seems like avery basic white guy sport or a really

(01:28:57):
stuffy rich persons fraternity. Yes,in Rhode Island, the mansions right,
Martha's vineyard, Oh yeah, it'sit's It's Martha's Yesterday and Father's Day,
wearing their deck shoes off their theywere playing Timothy Please ball. I need

(01:29:18):
yeah, that's a good, goodcall. There, I need more caviat
please. The croquet is really heatingup and the grass is freshly perfect,
right, yeah, I gotta love, gotta love when the front yard is
mode right, you gotta mo grassexactly. You got a grass, you
have to keep it. Then yougotta water. It's damn right, and

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quit worrying about because your rappers grass. Get your own under under control the
grass and always greener. On theother side of the grass is green.
Where you water. Yeah, yougotta water exactly a lot, especially not
Croquet, right, Crochet, Alonsoand Vlad. They're all on the table.
Oh, I know where you're goingwith this. You want to get
to pick one and you're giving upsomething that's gonna hurt who you're taking.

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Forget, Forget where they are intheir contract. Forget how I want you
to now. You could take intoaccount money, but I don't want now
unless I don't know if any ofthem are a rental, because Danny Brown
said on Friday to give up somethingfor a rental would be very hard for
him. They're not doing. Idon't know Alonzo's not a rental, didn't
he sign a contract, did herecently get paid? And I don't know

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Crochet's contract status. But depending ifthere none of them are rentals, Vlad's
not. Didn't we say he's gotthe Kyle Tucker situation as well, that
he's twenty twenty six or whatever.It is like that, all right,
So if they're not a rental,who you taking they want? They all
want the same package. They allwant the same package. Let's see what

(01:30:46):
you refreshing the computer? Okay.So Garrett Crochet isn't a free agent until
twenty twenty seven. Okay, I'mjust kidding. I'm just you know,
looking at the spot track, allright. Damn, let's see you've also,
yeah, twenty twenty seven, Sothat would be pretty good if you
get him. Pete Alonzo h ishe would be a rental. Okay,

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Heno's out out see you later?What see you later? Say it again?
I can't. We haven't really heardit from him. A lot of
silas, right, okay, SoVlad Guerrero Junior, let's just keep Pete
Alonzo in it and assume that he'sokay, but he's gonna sign here.
Okay, he's gonna sign here.They're gonna get him for and then,

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Vlad Garo Junior, you would geta year and a half because he's a
Kild Tucker situation twenty six, allright, So go ahead. Okay,
let's say the rental. You feellike you can sign him and keep him
here. Ballpark favors him. It'sa hitters ballpark in this lineup. He
wants to win a World Series.He's here, all right, So just
tell me who who you get.I'm not taking Pete Alonzo. I'm afraid
that you can't sign him. Yeah. And the plus, I'm not trying

(01:31:50):
to give that big ass price tagto him because then it would hamper my
ability to bring back Kyle Tucker.Well, then Vlad Guerrero coming out the
same time Kyle Tucker. Aren't youassuring that one of them is going to
be gone? Yeah? All right, So there's your answer. So give
me Garrett Crochet. There you go, because you still got like three years
of him, right, and ifhe pitches like he's been pitching in Chicago
here, those will be some greatinnings that he's given you recently. I

(01:32:13):
think you got to go get apicture. You got to go get a
picture regardless, but as of thethree names that we discussed, you've got
to go get that picture because Ithink you can. We've seen it year
in and year out. Good pitchingwins you. Titles when's you get you
parades? Didn't take you long togive him that answer, didn't take a
lot of pontificating word And as ofright now, call the mayor after a

(01:32:35):
series win, tell him to blockoff Louisiana Street for the early November parade
back they had what do they sayit in Seattle after they boat raced the
Rangers and gave the game breaks offand gained the game on the astro.
So let me see you hear thatagain, throwing the parade even though we
dropped a Look, they might benine out in the AO West, they're

(01:32:57):
only seven back in the wild card. A lot of game left, a
lot of lot of season left,and all you got to do is check
the back of what the baseball card? There you go, John Whitmyer,
I think that's his name, Mayorof Houston. Witty. Yeah, with
dog you're blocking off? Did youyou're you're you're a dow Jones are with
that though? You're up and down, up and down? You know what

(01:33:18):
I will say tomorrow though tomorrow morning, but I'll say the same thing.
Because they don't play today. Theyare off. Nobody's ever lost to a
bye day. No, they won'tday off, day off. Yeah bye.
You never know. Four you couldlose to the by you could look
he could lose to Yeah, wellthat's a good loss. That is a

(01:33:39):
good loss or a good game,depiting on who you are. I guess
true seven one, three, twofive seven. Hinty Gary, Daryl will
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ninety Get back out to the phoneline seven one three two point two five
seven ninety Gary, good morning,Hey, what's going on? Guys?
Quick question? Thanks a braid yougot DFA and we kind of saw this
coming, did it. Dand Brownsay last week that they were in the

(01:35:53):
market for buying and if they ifthey are in the market of buying and
releasing a braid, I can openup the market for I guess, more
money to spend on a future prospector somebody else, like somebody pitching well
moving forward. Yeah, I wouldimagine when you cleared off the books,

(01:36:14):
but they still owe him. He'sgetting his money, so that he's getting
his money for that. He didn'thave a contract next year. It was
just a two year deal, wasn'tit. It was a three year deal,
a three year deal, and what'shis money worth next year? So
they're they're on the books for that. So yes, that that's about thirty
eight million dollars over this year nextyear because when it's guaranteed. That's right.

(01:36:35):
It was a three year deal,wasn't it? Not a two with
the player. That's why it wasupset because they did gave him a three
year deal year, right, that'sright. It was three years. So
here, here's the deal with that, Gary, is it? You know,
at some point in time, youjust got to say I got to
I got to eat the money,right, But it is going to free
them up to go, and they'regoing to have to upgrade the roster.

(01:36:56):
And if you're talking about pitching,Dana Brown has said that if it takes,
we were always in the market forpitch pitching, and I I didn't
think there's any doubt regardless of Imean, obviously you're not going to mortgage
your entire franchise, but if there'sa pitcher they can get, I don't
think there's any question that they're goingto be in the market for minimum of
one of them. Oh no,don't we have anybody in sugar Land that's

(01:37:17):
ready to come up? I mean, I know that didn't be They've been
sitting a braffito down and this otherguy they brought up, was it Humble
Cooper? I can't remember him,Yeah, Cooper Humble. Yeah, he's
one of the top prospects in theAstros organization. Yeah, so what we
don't have anybody down at sugar Landthat's ready to come up the pitch at
least uh, No, not really. I mean you got a couple of

(01:37:43):
like top prospects down in Double Ablue balls and name to remember. Uh
there was another one that Dan hadtalked about yesterday. But I mean you're
going to be relying on a guythat has no big league experience. Yeah,
no, No, that's that's thetakeaway, or not that that's the
take of it. I mean,there may be somebody who comes in and
makes an impact like that, butI don't know if you can count on

(01:38:04):
that to sustain that at least rightnow. If you're a team now,
if they didn't believe they were aWorld Series type team, yeah, I
would think that you'd see bodies gettingwork and they you may still remember,
in the trade deadline, the otherteam has to be in play too,
the one that you're dealing with orthe two or three teams you're dealing with.
So I would think that they're goingto trust going and getting a front

(01:38:27):
line pitcher or whatever it has,close to a front line pitcher they can
get out there who's willing to partwith somebody more than they'd lean on,
you know, a minor league rightnow coming up and giving them a ton
of quality innings between now and September. Okay, last I haven't heard about
Garcia. Where are we at withhim? Through Live VP? A couple

(01:38:49):
of weeks ago? Two weeks ago, I think Steve Steve Sparks said the
ball was jumping to head life,so he said he looked good in person,
he saw yeah good. Well,can't wait to get he's seven back,
get him in the rotation. Weappreciate everything, appreciate it. Thanks,
thanks, thanks, appreciate you,buddy. And let's get to Daryl
before it gets Steve Sparks, Darryll, welcome in. Hey, good morning

(01:39:11):
guys, Happy Monday to you'all.What's happening. How you feeling? Oh
I'm doing good man. Uh youguys mentioned about Dobie getting that home run
Friday night. Oh, he suredid. My son and I were sitting
there, we're in section one tenand before the game started. My son
loves Goobie. It's one of thefavorite players, him and Tucker, and
he's like, Dad, if Doobiegets a home run this game, you

(01:39:32):
owe me a jersey, doob jersey. I'm like, all right, fine,
you know, Doobie's not a bighome run hitter. He's a good
single double guy. He's a realgood hitter, you know, and I
think he got like twelve home runslast year or something like that. I'm
like, sure, fine, I'lltake that bet. So Doobey gets up
for you know, he gets upfirst, and uh, I think a
little looper. He gets out atfirst base. My son's like, all
right, no big deal, Adon't expect it. Second time Dubey gets

(01:39:55):
up, same thing pretty much happens. He gets out at first. Then
the third time he's up next,seventh inning, first pitch cracked that thing
all the way to the cockord boxes. My son jumps up. Everybody's freaking
out because he told like ten peoplearound us, you know, the bat,
and everybody's freaking out. My son, he's been working out and he's
bigger than me, and he startsslapping me about beating me to death and
freaking out about this jersey and howhe called it. He goes, I

(01:40:17):
called that, I called that.I called He was freaking out, and
everybody's all cheering. Oh man,we had a great time. It was
pretty exciting to see that though happen. He called it right before the game.
That's all yeah, oh yeah,I'm getting his jersey. We he
after the game. We were wewere both. He was just tired.
He getting time, and we did. We left, we did. We

(01:40:38):
didn't go to the team store oranything. But I'm getting his jersey.
There you go, because we're gonnacall you on it. My man.
Hey, fast fast pace, fastpay makes fast friends. You know that.
There you go. All right,man, that's great father and son
at the ball game. That's prettysweet. Man. All right, let's
get to break because we're gonna welcomein Astros broadcaster Steve Sparks of the show

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next right here on Sports Talk,but the Sewn Salisbury Show continued. Oh
yeah, as we do every singleMonday eight thirty here on Sports Talk seven
ninety. Welcome in, Steve,Steve. Great to be with you,
man. They take the series overDetroit and no day off and then Chicago
this week. But let me startwith Verlander. Any concerns or do you

(01:41:21):
think this is more just preventative withhim? And good morning, and I
hope you had a great father's day, brother, Thank you very much saying
to you Sean, A little concernmaybe with ver Lader. I just don't
know how much the next thing contributedto his last couple of outings. So
I don't know, we'll see,you know, but he's always been very

(01:41:43):
transparent, So let's get to thatfirst. He dons at like it is,
so he doesn't hide behind anything oranything of that nature. So I
would expect if he thows Wednesday orThursday, as Dana Brown alluded to yesterday,
if he would be as close toone hundred percent. This time of
years, you can get Steve.This team can ill afford guys like him

(01:42:03):
even one or two starts, right, I mean, I understand that sometimes
it happens, but I mean they'rethey're handed the thread because of the injuries.
You're hanging on and you're asking guysto grind and grind and get innings.
That some of these guys are goingto meet innings threshold, which is
going to take it to take itstoll later in, which may end up
taxing a bullpen. So with that, Steve to me the big If you

(01:42:24):
think you're a World Series team,a playoff team, and Dana Brown is
said on here that they do,how can how can a how can the
biggest guarantee in baseball not be astrosgoing and getting a picture as long as
somebody will deal with them. Wellwhat kind of picture? That's what I'm
saying, depending on what what whatare you willing to give up? And
how frontline is this picture. That'swhy I'm asking your expertise. But doesn't

(01:42:46):
it seem like they have to goget somebody or at least try to se
I think if you ever feel likeyou have to do anything, you're in
trouble desperation. Great point. Ithink you make bad decisions. So do
they have to? I would sayno, So I and I think you're
always looking for ways to make yourteam better. But if you ever feel

(01:43:09):
like your back's against the wall,you'll make stupid decisions. So I'm gonna
I'm gonna go against that a littlebits here. So you also have to
start thinking about what's it gonna takefor this team to get five or six
games beyond five hundred. So they'vegot a ways to go to get that,
and they're gonna have to chase somewins. They just have to at

(01:43:30):
this point, you know. Sosome games that you're down by a couple
of runs in the sixth sevings,you might use Brian Bray you just to
keep it as close as you canyou know things like that. So with
that being said, I think youneed depth in the bullpen and I think
that costs a whole lot less.And I think for the Astros right now,

(01:43:54):
I think it's gonna take a lotfor them to get there, And
what are they going to look likeby the time they get there? How
gas are they going to be?And I think they need to fortify with
some depth, whether or not theyhave it in play or double A.
And Dame k got a couple ofthese guys down here. Aj Blue Balls

(01:44:14):
pitching well in Triple A. Jakebloss is pitching very well in Double A
combined for a note hitter just threedays ago. They love them so so
so to give up prospects to goget somebody that's not a guarantee. Uh,
I think you still have a fewmore weeks before you need to make
that determination, right, Yeah,desperate Steve Sparks joins the Stassos broadcasters.

(01:44:38):
He does every Monday stee desperation becomeneed and want but have to and like
there are different right, you'd loveto but not to work out there?
Yeah, you know, there's there'sonly two teams in the national aide that
I would say that aren't gonna thataren't playoff contenders right now? Everybody else

(01:44:59):
is with then I think a gameand a half of the wild card in
the Nation Lakes, there's only twoteams that are going to be selling.
And you talked about Crochet. He'salready pitched thirty more innings than his career
high. What's he going to looklike in the second half? How far
can you push him? Yeah?Just add some of those guys threshold that
they're trying to that there. Theydon't want to reach here either. Yeah,
I get it, man, makessense. Yeah, Steve, Okay,

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So if this team, let's justfor instance, have they play the
what if game? If they don'tget if they if they don't get a
starting pitcher, and we don't knowabout the Garciana colors. You'd said that
you've seen Guarcian there's pop and he'sand he looks great. So if they
if this is the roster that's that'spost deadline. Mm hmm. What And
I and I ask you, Steve, is this the World Series team?

(01:45:44):
What would you tell me? Whatdo you think? In spring training?
I thought it was Yeah, Imean coach them, I mean I don't
know, play better. I meanpretty simp Yeah, I still think.
I still think they have the talentto be a playoff contender, and they're
gonna have to play better. Sothat's that's the bottom line. Some guys

(01:46:06):
have had good years, some guyshave had bad years. But uh,
figure that we're going to get betterproduction out of first base going forward.
That's gonna help. And I thinksome guys just need to pick up the
slack. We're seeing Bregnan playing alot better the last few weeks. Uh,
Chas McCormick is showing signs you getTucker back in the lineup with your

(01:46:27):
down swinging the bat. Well,I think I think they're good, you
know, but you know, Arraghettineeds to be consistent. You need to
figure out a way to to nothave him, you know, throw clunkers.
You know, sometimes it looks likehe can beat anybody, and he
looks like a major leaguer. Butyou know, this team can ill afford
games where guys have have lapses likethis right now, they got to put

(01:46:49):
their best forward just about every singletime right now. Steve, you've been
in this so long and his fansand us watching and you covering it,
and as a former player, youknow, we all try to come up
with some big scientific ideas, littletrade two guys to get four whatever it
is. Right, we're sitting theredoing everything we can to piecemeal together and
sometimes it really comes down, likeyou said, hit the ball when needed,

(01:47:12):
get quality at bats, throw pitches, play some defense. Sometimes it's
really not Yeah, it's well,it's tough to do consistently, we know
that, but it really is sometimescomes down to just simple execution, correct
it is. Yeah, I meanthat's that's been the biggest problem. Like
we probably could point to four orfive things the first two months of the
season when the team got off toa bad start and you could say,

(01:47:34):
you know, the back end ofthe bullpen that they were counting on in
the seventh eighth and Knife didn't pitchup to their capabilities. They've gotten it
together for the most part and pitchingmuch better, hitting with runners in scoring
position. There was a little listthere and it was showing up one or
two things just about every single night. So it make things difficult to really

(01:47:56):
pinpoint and figure out what we needto do as a team to get better.
But right now I think it's it'sstarting to narrow, and I think
more guys are kind of rounding inthe form. And I think, you
know, we said, we've wesaid this, and you need to do
a little better job because they've lostsome really heartbreakers in the last couple of
weeks. This month of June though, looked like it was pretty ripe to

(01:48:20):
make up some ground. So theyhaven't made up as much ground as I
thought they would have or would haveliked, But there's still some some of
this month left. And I thinkthis team is a runaway, like a
good push of winning ten out oftwelve games, I think they've got it
in them to get where they needto be. Where they're you know,
four games over five. I thinkwhen you get to the All Star break,

(01:48:41):
Sean, I think you need tolook where you are in relation to
five hundred, not how many gamesback or anything like that, right,
and I think you get a prettygood sense of what you're working with,
and Seattle's pretty good. So theireyes should be on the five hundred as
opposed to the division right now,right Steve, what are they nine?
Right now? Right now? Theyshould right then then you make that push.
So I mean, once you getto five hundred, I think,
and it's a spread. I thinkthat's when you step on the gas.

(01:49:03):
Yeah, Steve, let me askyou about you mentioned about lost some heartbreakers
and you know, the one rungames where they could have won, And
what describes a team better? Becauseyou could look at it two ways.
Well maybe this year they're just notgood enough to win close games. You
could look at it on that side, or look at it on the side,
Well they're close, man, they'rereally close. So you know,

(01:49:25):
on lean it's a pretty slippery slopeand it's such a small margin, right
Steve, where it's like, man, they don't know how to win close
games. And then there's the otherside says, well, we're not losing
by seven runs, you're getting beatclose. So which one? Which one
describes the team better this year?I think it's all the above. It's
ninety ft prevention and it's ninety feetyou know, however you take it.

(01:49:48):
You know, taking the extra baseright, moving the runner over, moving
the runner over is a big onefor me too, you know, or
getting a runner in from third baseit's less than two outs. They haven't
been good at that. I thinkthe big reason why I think they're five
and fourteen or whatever they are within one run game something like that,
So that can be flipped very easily. You know, I think the Mariners

(01:50:10):
are you know, above five hundredin one run games, and is it
fluky? I think it is toan extent, But I, you know,
just just using my eyes, Ithink the Astros can get a lot
better at some little things to takeit take advantage of these close games,
so put themselves in positions to knockthings out. And I still go back

(01:50:30):
to what we were thinking in springtraining that you know, with the Brady,
you, Presley and Hater at theback end, you can turn these
into six inning game six inning games. And I still think they have those
that capability. Yeah, Steve,I get the sense with all that,
with the injuries and stuff, thatyou really are that there's a deep sense
for you that that depth in thebullpen may damn well be as important as

(01:50:53):
the depth or the usage in thebullpen. Then maybe going out and getting
a starting pitcher. Am I onthe right path? I think some guys.
I think some guys are pitching alot right, and not just pitching
in games, but they're getting upin the bullpen a lot too. You
know, and we've talked. Ithink we talked about that last last week
as well as you know, thoseups in the bullpen where you get up

(01:51:15):
once or twice and don't get intoa game or very taxing. So that's
happening a lot too because they're chasingand I don't blame them. You know,
they need to right now. Theyneed to chase the close ones.
But there's a lot of guys witha lot of double barrels going on.
Double barrels means two relievers up,yeah, the same time, and only
one of them is getting in.So that's just the way it is right

(01:51:38):
now. That's the way they haveto play a lot of these games.
But it's very, very taxing.So I think depth, to have some
depth in the bullpen where you canwrest those guys from time to time is
going to be imperative. Steve,I'm grady when it comes to like winning,
and I know most of us are, or it comes to like leaning
on the side of favoring a player, old school fan baseball, you know,

(01:51:59):
love it. The purest part ofme says, I don't care that
he's at ninety four pitches. Theguy's had an All Star year and may
very well be the team MVP andhis road. Let him come out in
the eighth inning. And I'm notquestioning Joe because Joe, Joe knows better
than I do. But that partof me is a fan sitting there saying,
damn, it's only been done fouror five times, two no hitters
in a year, let's go getit. Then the other side of me
says, well, Verlander the daybefore gets hurt, optics the depth of

(01:52:23):
the pitching staff. You got topull him and so fix my conflicted which
way should I be leaning? Well, you know, probably the scenario if
he gets through eight innings, he'sprobably saying, with sixteen more pitches,
going to be at one hundred andten, right, So what's the difference.
You're not going to let him goout there after eight innings. I

(01:52:45):
was hoping he'd get a four pitcheighth inning steve of that they weren't patient
and he'd be out so he couldgo out there for the night. That
was my that's the greed part I'mtalking about. Yeah, but I mean
at ninety four pitches I think,or ninety six pitches, where he was
most likely sean he was going tothrow fifteen or sixteen pitches the next ning?
Was he laboring? Steve? Inyour eyes? Was he laboring with

(01:53:06):
some what was was that seventh inningmore labor than you would have wanted coming
out in the eighth anyway, regardlessof the pitches the seventh inning wasn't.
But the three walks in a rowearlier, right, Yeah, what was
that the sixth n I think itwas the sixth inning, yes, or
fifth, I can't remember that itwas, but the walks did the three

(01:53:27):
in a row. But it didn'tseem to me in the seventh thing from
my vantage point at home, thathe was laboring in the seventh inning,
you know, it sounding like heseemed to have righted it, but that
you were there, I was theretalk about laboring or just getting up and
down, Sean. I mean,I think he labored one time in the
game. That's it, you know, in that one particular inning where he

(01:53:47):
struggled a little bit. I thinkhe threw twenty five pitches. That ending
wasn't exorbitant, but still was there. But I'm just taking in the big
picture right now. They took himout at the right time. The ninety
four pitch is that's good. Hewasn't going to go nine innings, so
let's take that out. Let's getPresley and Hater in there and knock this

(01:54:08):
game out. And they did.They won four to one, and you
know they didn't get the no hitter. But in the big picture, Blanco
is your horse. Yes, Imean, if there's if there's if there's
one guy they cannot afford to push, you know, beyond what you need
to, or you want to takeout an inning too early. It's and

(01:54:30):
your point makes sense because even ifhe'd had this fifteen pitches in the eighth
and and been smooth and sweet,you're still the ninth inning. You still
you can't you can't get him toone hundred and thirty pitches in this day,
and you're just not going to doit. Steven, It's crazy.
Now. One thing I didn't haveon my bingo card is your horse being
Renel Blanco in spring training. OkayI didn't have that, but boy,
is it a great Is it agreat sight to see you know, and

(01:54:53):
he's been an an MVP guy forthem this year, no question. Yeah,
I mean you get very excited todayhe pitches. You feel like,
I think the games in his starts. Yep, that they've had this season.
That's how that's how valuable he's been. Now Hunter start to be a
guy that man, that was hewas facials on Friday Night. That was

(01:55:13):
that was. That was number onestarter stuff. Man, he was awesome.
Yeah two seem that too seemed fastballis naughty. Well, you were
begging for Steve and to take someof that inside of the play. You
were begging for it when he waslaboring and struggling and he started to go
that way. And now now look, I mean it was it was spot
on. He looks different, wasa different pitcher. He really is.
Man, how confident? Yeah,he looks confident and mean I like everything

(01:55:36):
about what Hunter's doing right now.So keep them going. I mean that's
what That's what gives you hope.And I feel like the Astros, you
know, if they get to theAll Star break and there there are a
few games above five hundred, Ithink you're you're feeling good about the second
half of the season. So we'llsee. You know this this next few
weeks are going to be very important, but kind of getting back to what

(01:55:58):
we started with. I would reallyguard against feeling like you have to do
anything. I think this team andwe felt like, uh, coming out
of spring training, this team wasgood and they were going to be contenders
again. I was pretty confident,and I know you were, Uh,
just play better, I mean,just just figure out a way to kind

(01:56:18):
of maneuver. Luis Garcia is onhis way, you know that that shouldn't
be too far away. And Ithink mccoller's maybe not too far away past
that. So they've got some someguys that could fortify things a little bit.
So when you when just you know, you start thinking about what can
the Astros trade. They don't havea lot of marketable guys in the minor

(01:56:39):
league. And if you start talkingabout who you might trade off of your
major league roster, I'll be honest. You know, you start thinking about
guys they're not having that great ayear, you know. And I don't
want to I don't want to nameanybody, but if you start thinking about
guys that aren't having that great ayear, let's get rid of him who
wants them? Value for those guys, yep, yeah, you got to.

(01:57:01):
You gotta sell high. You can'tsell low. It's by low,
sell high, no doubt about it. Steve so so yeah, you know,
I would caution against taking That's that'san easy solution, it's not.
Desperation usually leads to the wrong decision. Steve, great stuff. I've kept
you longer than I ship. I'msorry, but we needed to talk and
get this great insight. Have asafe trip and uh or have a safe

(01:57:24):
visit while you're there, and we'lllook forward to seeing you when you get
back home. Thanks you too,buddy. Thank you. That's great.
Steve Spark come back. We'll discusswhat he said. Uh not so sure
that Steve thinks we need to goget started pitching. Desperation can be a
problem Sports Talk seven ninety. Thisis the Sean Salisbury Show. But if

(01:57:44):
you're desperate to tray, I meandesperate to chase wins, which they are
going to have to do, He'sright, does a desperation kick in on
going and getting somebody else? Ifa starting pitcher, if they're right there
in the hunt at least I meanthey're nine back now in the AO West.
He said, think five hundred,not the division right now, five
right, because then you're then youcan at least start to think striking distance.

(01:58:08):
Right. It's interesting, It makesit makes thinking about what's the what's
the slippery slope between desperate and chasingwins? What's the gap? I think
they need to go get a pictureif they're if they're in the if they're
in the hunt they think they are. And we've heard it from Dana Brown

(01:58:29):
every single week. Yeah, sodepending on what opposition they get with the
trade and what they're going. Andhe talked about value guys that aren't he
he's not gonna mention names. Wecan see the force through the trees.
When he talks about the names ora big league roster that aren't having good
years, you may not get thevalue you want for him because they're better
players, but their performance this yearhas not shown that. Yeah. Yeah,

(01:58:50):
you got to see the forest throughthe trees. And then you got
to have two hands in one bush. You know it makes sense. So
yeah, yeah, you don't wantto have two hands in one bush.
You want to have one bush andtwo hands. That's a that's a lot
of bush. No, it's alot of hands. There's a lot of
hands. Okay, So you wantone the one in the hand, two
in the bush, right, gotcha? Right? Because the two in the

(01:59:11):
bush may not be reachable, right, The one in the hand means it's
yours. Are there bushes in theforest? Oh yeah, there's trees.
There may be if there were.Where there's trees, there's bush and bushes,
right, Okay, sometimes you gotto trim them up, you know,
so you can trimmed so you couldsee see the rest of it,
right, you don't so no,don't have two hands in the bush.

(01:59:31):
So you can. But i'd ratherhave one in the hand, one in
the hand, yeah, okay,chasing the bush? Might you might get
what happens if two hands you could? Yeah? Or you know that sometimes
there'll the stick that they'll all thebranches have stickers on them and stuff.
Yeah, and now that's when you'retrying to go for two in the bush.

(01:59:53):
You may get skinned, You mayget scraped up a little bit.
You probably will. You know whatI'm saying, Two hands in the bush,
you don't want that. Keep theone in the hand, driplee you
following? Oh yeah, I'm listening. Okay, one in the hand.
Yeah, that's a better chance togo where you want to go. Okay,
you know where we need to goto break Yeah, we do.
Top of the hour. Let's getinto the nine o'clock hour. We will
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(02:00:15):
Salisbury Show, Adrian Conrad James willget to you guys. Next, continue
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Olympics. This is Sports Talk sevenninety The Astros as the Rockets, Rockets,
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My goodness, man, seven seventhe Astros were off. They play the
White Sox tomorrow. How about that? And there we go. Let's look

(02:01:24):
the James James, what's your thoughtson these Astros? Yes, yes,
yes, I have a question.There's an autograph convention, uh, I
guess that's the name for it atthe end of this week. And I
have never been to one, andI know it's necessary you need some autographs,

(02:01:46):
but I have some questions. Whatis it like? Are the lines
prohibitively long? Can you bring itemslike I have a bobble head? Can
you bring items for them to signor they don't allow anything in? Is
it a flat fee like, uh, you know, fifty dollars and whatever

(02:02:10):
you have they'll sign, or isit fifty dollars per item? And what
what can I expect to pay?Al Twov's going to be there, and
you know that's the big draw forme. So if you can break that
down for me, James, James, I got to tell you, my
man, we have no earthly idea. I've been to those. When I've

(02:02:30):
been to person that's you know thatyou go to they pay you to come
to an autograph signing because somebody's there'sa big everybody. There's fifty kiosks and
tables of stuff, and they're makingmoney and they have guys like you,
like fifty of their stars. Notnot me. I'm just talking about you.
I don't know about this one,but they'll be around for two hours
sign and stuff, and you seepeople walk around. I don't know if

(02:02:54):
you can bring stuff. I don'tknow the price. I think the best
thing to do is probably whatever thename of the convention you're going to or
want to go to, click ontheir website and see see the parameters.
Because I'll be honest with you,I have no earthly idea, Brian,
I don't think you do either.I have no idea. I've never been
to one. I'm not I'm nota big memorabilia guy, so I can't
answer. That's just being honest andtransparent. I have no idea. I've

(02:03:17):
been on the other side of it, were you going to sign for somebody,
But I've never been on the sideof what you can bring and what
goes on in those things. Idon't have any idea. Okay, you
bet, thank you. I I'msure he loves it and all those things.
I thought he wanted to talk aboutthe Astros, but well, he
told excuse me. I would loveto be the Yellow Pages, but I

(02:03:41):
don't know, and I'd love tobe Seriri to give you the answers.
And James is a regular caller here. I like it all stand and he
calls next up, like, comeon, though, man's that's what we're
doing that. I'm not. Idon't. I can you just waste the
time? You told our producer youwanted to talk Astros're not the Yellow Pages
freaking google it. Yeah, Ican't be the I don't know. I

(02:04:03):
guess. I mean, I'm not. I'm not. I can't do the
research for him. If I knew, it'd be one thing, but then
he had if he asked one question, maybe we could do it for him.
But there's like twelve of them inthere that I have no earthly idea.
And that's probably if you want togo and get all those answers,
either call who's in charge or googleit like most America probably would. Ridiculous.

(02:04:24):
Man, I don't know, doyou? No? I have no
clue. I hey, sirius AIchat will give you that? I mean,
right? Is that what it's called? Yeah? No, what are
we doing here? Say it?Seriously? What are we doing? Yeah?
I don't know. He got love. I love the banter that he
brings in Astro's opinion, but tosay, to tell Triple he's gonna want

(02:04:45):
to talk astros and then to comeon and ask him for two minutes about
a freaking autograph session. Well hedidn't even know. I can't give you
the answer if he didn't even knowthe name of the member he said,
Well, it's whatever the name ofthe conventions. I don't even know.
Those go on all the time.Go on some sponsored ad or go to
the website and ask those people incharge that are actually charging, because you
are going to be charged, andI would imagine that you're gonna have to

(02:05:08):
buy stuff from them to get itautographed from them. I don't know,
so I digressed or I'm not.I can't give you those answers, just
like I wouldn't be able to giveyou an answer what a Ferrari and Georgia
cost at a dealership. I'm notin Georgia and I'm not at the dealership,
and I don't want a Ferrari.I probably what everybody else does.
You can go to classically or goto Google. Yeah, yeah, google

(02:05:32):
it on a website and see whatthe prices are in compare it to the
other Google website of the other dealershiplogical. But hey, good guy,
Yeah, we just don't have thoseanswers. Nor was I going to look
them up for you. No,no, we were not. Let's talk
to our guy, Phil, Phil, what's happening? Phil? Yo?
I'm hoping y'all have the answer tomy question why can't we sweep anyone?

(02:05:57):
That Tigers team was just bottom ofthe barrel poor and I know these White
Socks they're the worst team in theleague, But I have no confidence that
we're going to go in there andsweep them and get out of there with
three wins. It's just it's sofrustrating, and I don't know what the
answer is. Why can't we sweepanyone? I got an answer for you,
Phil, execution sustain. I couldgive you a big scientific answer.

(02:06:24):
We could go through all the analytics. The bottom line is, you know,
you watch, you're a fan,and so when you go in and
your starter gets scratched because of theneck injury, and then you bring another
starter in who wasn't prepared for thatday because well it wasn't his scheduled day,
and you give up a bunch ofruns earlier, and you're in a
chase mode. You don't execute,and you're chasing the whole time. Just

(02:06:45):
like early in the season one day, it was bullpen. Next day was
starting pitching. Next day it wasBregman. Can't get a hit, but
a pop up the next day.Alvarez isn't as aggressively seen the next I
mean it was something or somebody orthe first base position couldn't produce. It
comes down to and Steve Sparks basicallysaid it a lot of it's simple execution,
doing little things that they haven't donesustained consistency this year. It's not

(02:07:09):
one, it's a bunch of differentthings. But that's why they can't sweep
teams like this and and Detroit.While while a competitive team, You're right,
if the Astros are a World Seriesteam, you can't go into Chicago
and not sweep them in this series. There's no question. Yes, if
you want to gain ground to fivehundred and closing the on the Mariners who

(02:07:30):
are kicking ass and now they gota nine game lead, so yes,
you're gonna have to start sweeping teamsthat have zero business playing on the same
field as you. When it comesto talent, absolutely, there you go,
Bud, Thanks you appreciate it.Phil. Let's take another quick call
before we get to the next segment. Chris, you got a trade for
balls on your mind, No,sir, more of a question how much

(02:07:54):
when when considering a trading a player, how much does a fan popularity them
in to play or just strictly business, strictly numbers. Well, it was
the first part of that question,Chris. Answer, what was the first
part of that? Uh, fanpopularity? How does it weigh in?
Yeah? Yeah? Or does itweigh in? I don't think when it

(02:08:15):
gets right down to it, youcan make I've seen guys on teams that
were I've played on teams where guysreally popular, but then the money at
some point doesn't fit and you gotto get rid of them. Yeah.
But I've also been on teams orthe guy probably it was probably time,
but it had been a lifer.Yeah, and gets an extra And it
depends on the coach. I'm justtelling you now. With Jerry Burns when

(02:08:37):
I was there, and with ChuckKnox, they were more at I told
you Chuck's second round running back.They cut him for a veteran who had
been the league, who was agood special teams play on a running back.
They cut him after drafting him inthe first three rounds of the draft.
Done, and he was a goodguy, a good player, but
didn't perform. They weren't willing towait around school chuck the old school coaches

(02:08:58):
in mind, we're willing to say, I don't care. They were keeping
popular players with the players, notjust the fans, but a popular guy
in the locker room with the playerscomes into play too. There is no
doubt because a leadership, I don'tthink it's the end all, but I
listen, if we don't think thatoptics and hearing fans cheer for a guy
in the stands, it's been thereand you're and you're kind of teetering on

(02:09:18):
should we let him go, towe trade him or not. I think
I do think that there are somenot everybody, who do hear what people
are saying in the stands, Andthat's fine, But your decisions cannot be
based on Twitter or stands because youtalk about desperate when you're basing on what
we think all the time. Becausewe have our favorite players, that that

(02:09:39):
is grounds for and that that isa recipe for disaster for your team.
Not that people don't know, butwe're willing to take guys we like a
little bit more than maybe somebody wedon't write as a fan of a team,
not media, but a fan,so I know there's no doubt they
hear the cheers and booze and andhear it. They heard what they're saying
about a bray you and he seemedto be a pretty popular guy with the
players, so the fans, Ido think it matters. Jose al Tuova

(02:10:03):
could hit one seventy five for thenext five years and he's never leaving here,
been a great player. But evenif if it tailed off, he's
gonna he's a lifer here. Soand Pie he's the most popular astro since
I've been here every day all thetime, So I think it does come
into play. I don't think it'sthe end all decision. I think it's
it fits in somewhere, Brian.But when it comes to traits on why

(02:10:24):
are you do or don't get aplayer or keep him or get rid of
or keep a player, I thinkit's down the list a bit. Yeah,
And I just think about like someof the fan favorites that have been
here, George Springer, huge fanfavorite, they did not resign him.
Carlos Korea massive massive fan favorite,did not sign him. Juli Guriel yep,
huge, huge fan favorite. Histime had passed here and they did

(02:10:46):
not resign him. Now if theyask me, the owner, as he's
well here in this thing and hedoes it's business and what we're doing for
our team, the bottom line hasbeen winning and bottom line do they fit
in to what we're trying to getdone here? Financially? You just named
three immensely popular players. Yep.That life goes on, games go on,

(02:11:07):
You're gonna do it. So inthis organization. It doesn't I know
organizations that it does. This team. Matter of fact, some people kind
of probably hate the fact that ithasn't played into it. Hey, we
got what we wanted out of you, and it was great, but it's
time to move on. Yep.And this team does it probably better than
anybody in baseball right now when itcomes to it. Took them a while
with the bray you, but probablydoesn't better than anybody in baseball. They

(02:11:31):
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sent you because we are professional.Great. Who's Who's Sean? He's the
ys eternal judge who sits on highHe has the final say on all disputes.
Back to the Sean Salisbury show onSports Talk seven ninety. No,
and you want me to tell youwhat tickets are and what if scalpers are
walking around? Yeah? Yeah,yeah you do. What time it starts

(02:13:24):
on? Huh? Okay? Yeah, speaking of con yourself, is it
yeah? Okay? Is that onthe website or oh it's on my website.
It's coming right out of my mouth. Okay, go yourself, Brian.
Okay, Wooden's bride. Thank you, it look like you're bitch.
Okay, Hey, speaking of concerts, l hefe George Straight? Oh gosh

(02:13:48):
he is heyes? Oh? My. One hundred and ten thousand and five
fans packed into Kyle Field up inCollege State to see George Straight and Parker
McCollum. That broke the record forattendance at a concert in the US.

(02:14:11):
Parker McCollum is talented and good.He'll forever be able to say, Yeah,
the biggest crowd ever of my concert, it's George Straight. Right.
But they did it right though.Man, So they got a local guy
from he went to College High Schoolright down the road, and twelve without
George that's all. But they didit right though, because that drew a

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different type of I mean, GeorgeStrait brings a different time. George Strait
is the king of country for areason. George Strait could sell a Yellowstone
Park for sure, But just addingAdam Parker in it, it's still saying
I'm the kid, There's no doubt. Twelve still waiting to get Parker McCollum
on the show. I can't waiteither. A sports fan too, He's

(02:14:56):
a huge, a huge rockets guy. But I mean, you know he's
not. He realized. Man,I get to go be paired with King
George and do this. What's itgoing to be like on the road when
when Stapleton and Straight or paired andI think they are I think so,
I think somewhere on the road thatthey are together somewhere and I can't remember
where and unless I dreamt it,because I think it'd be great. But
Parker McCollum, it would. Theydid do it right, and great on

(02:15:20):
him and great to go be withthe king in much respect. I can
tell you this for a buck twelveone hundred and twelve thousand, here's what
it is. With George Strait.He could literally have he could have his
own woodstock in Texas somewhere without fivenights in a row. Yeah, and

(02:15:41):
there'd be half a million people,yeah, every every frigging night. Yeah,
no question about it. Over thetime they would become hell or high
water heat, Mosquito. It wouldn'tmatter. The dude is I mean,
he is you know what he is. He's he's a king country. He's
he's charged what you want. They'reshowing up. They're going to show up.
Yes, it doesn't matter. Outrageous, it doesn't matter. And one

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hundred it was one hundred and tenthousan nine hundred and five fans and they
were packed in there. It remindsme of like when you like look at
Wimbley and you see behind in Queen. Yeah, and you see or led
Zeppelin out there and they're performing.It's like it just feels like it goes
on forever, and we found agreat stadium that can handle it all.

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If that stadium was okay, I'lltake it one step further. If that
stadium was built and they could addtemporary and it would have been two hundred
and fifty thousand people, the concertwould have been sold out. Yeah,
they would have had two hundred andfifty That's exactly right, no question about
it. He is too country.What led Zeppelin and Queen and what what
Taylor Swift is to her people,her her fan base. That's who he

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is. And don't worry, itain't gonna be the last time. They
always say it's the last time.George got a lot, a lot of
real estate left at him. Andif somebody's going to break the record,
guess who's going to be. It'llbe it'll be George straight A had some
temporaries and let's go put it upto two hundred thousand dollars and there go

(02:17:09):
to Bristol Motor Speedway in Tennessee andquick like they did for the football game.
Yeah, and he'll sell every frigginseat, every one of them.
Good on him, and good onA and M. Good on Kyle Field,
good on all of that, becausethat's an epic love. Did you
buy a chancey? The two jackassesfor Texas A and M yelling and cussing
at the coaching staff for University ofFlorida the College World Series? Did you

(02:17:30):
miss that? I didn't pay attentionto. So I watched a little bit
of baseball. I did not seethat there was like four or five hour
rain delay. But then in Floridaand Texas A and M A and M
ended up winning three to two.I saw that part. So for whatever
reason, these two Texas A andM bros. Came springing down the lower
level, got to the dugout andstarted cussing out the coaching staff for Florida,

(02:17:52):
and the Florida assistants were trying torun after trying to run into the
stands to get him, and theywere being held back and then finally security
got a hold of the two EXAsA and M alumni guys and kicked them
out. There's always I mean,do like just just jack at and the
Omaha police apparently were reported that thetwo A and M guys were talking mess
to the Florida guys because Florida hada bat boy that was killed or something

(02:18:16):
along those lines, and so that'swhat those dudes were referring to. There's
always somebody who ruins it, right, fans who just just can't people.
People are wackos, man, There'speople are wackos when it comes to sports.
Yeah, society too, but I'mnot not okay, So the two

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the two fans harassed the Florida dugoutwith alleged remarks about the bat boy that
died. Well, that's that's rightright then and there. That's a horrible
quality and a horrible trait. Andthat's that that's you can't who brings stuff
like okay this it makes it evenworse now, so got wrenching. You
don't do that. The two TexasA and M fans, and they both

(02:19:03):
had their aggie rings on their deckeddown A and M. Games I guarantee
you A and M didn't go tosupport that. They reportedly brought up the
Gators bat Boy, who died intwenty twenty one when his father was suspected
of killing his two sons before takinghis own life and then setting his home
on fire. The family of theboy, who was eleven years old,
was friends of Florida head coach KevinO'Sullivan, who the fans are reported so
they're rocking, So yes, yeah, don't do that. And then Jim

(02:19:24):
moret that important. Jim Schlosnagel,with the head coach for Texas A and
M, had to open up hispress conference after the game apologizing on behalf
of Texas A and M. I'dsee, and that's that will be unacceptable,
not only from Jim, who's agreat guy, but the university and
the rest of it. That's nota true representative of who Texas A and
M is. And we all knowthat. But there's always somebody, whether

(02:19:45):
it's at USC or Texas or atFlorida or at Florida State, there's always
a couple they want to root itfor everybody, whether it's boos and alcohol
or just sheer bad human beings.Who brings stuff like that up? Who
does that? It's not a characterflaw. It's a character flaw. These
guys are awful. Okay, howdo you come back from that? Hey,
good, welcome you into my home. You're a good dude. Wait,

(02:20:07):
way to go. You you youwere trolling. That's not trolling.
That's bad character. Yeah, itdoesn't represent who A and M is.
Yeah. Reportedly, uh, oneof the pictures for Florida, Brandon Eely
had to be held back along withmultiple assistant coaches. Don't you blame him.
I will hold me in. Letthem go and let them go,
pop on the stands and whoop thoseguys ask just for good measure. Yeah,
exactly, send a loud message becausesometimes, you know what, sometimes

(02:20:31):
you just got to punch somebody rightin their face because they deserve it.
Yeah. Like like Angel Rees,I'll leave that to Caitlin Clark, I'm
out on that conversation. Let's talkabout that situation, what happened to the
w n b A over the weekend, and also class you holding there,
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Salisbury show continued, so I can'ttell you. You want to talk about
it, we can talk about no. Oh, No, I didn't play.
I forgot it was I didn't.I didn't watch one. Uh,

(02:22:43):
I gotta come clean. Did oneroots players and the coaches and all that
the whole year get me neither.I didn't see a play either. I
didn't see one throw and may maybeit was exciting, and I'm sure it
was, and there's good players,and I root for their employment and the
rest of it. But I'm nota spring football guy, so I didn't
want. I didn't watch us snapthe entire year. I didn't either,
I know the huge Well, whatI do know is that the Houston Roughnecks
were god awful. Yeah, Idon't even know. I don't. I

(02:23:07):
didn't see any of their games either, and I hope, I mean,
I root for him, uh fortheir success, but I'm I'm not interested
in spring football. I just don'twatch it. I watch baseball and hoops
and some hockey, and uh,play golf and watch golf. I don't.
I don't. I who was inthe championship, Uh, Birmingham and

(02:23:28):
San Antonio. I don't know.Yeah, the Birmingham Stallions, okay against
the San Antonio Brahmas, and Idon't do who are the quarterbacks? Who
was the MVP? Who won?Dude, you're asking me to do a
deep dive. No, I'm not, I'm kidding. I don't. I
just like I can't answer the questionnot being a smart ass. I don't
know. I don't want to talkabout him. I I don't have any
football insight. No, Houston Roughneckswere one to nine on the season.

(02:23:52):
Once again, I don't have anyinsight. Uh, let's see who won
the title. Uh uh the BirminghamStallions won twenty five to nothing. Last
night. Oh tough, good defense, no offense for the for the other
team, San Antonio, you said, yeah, yeah, tough. Well,
you know they probably had a coupleof the the San Antonio women on

(02:24:15):
the offensive line. Well, ifthey did, they weren't moving very fast.
Aj A Martinez Adrian Martinez was thequarterback for former former Nebraska Cornhusker and
Andrian Martinez. Chase Garber's never heardof quarterback for Uh, he's a he's
a champion. Oh he so,so Adrian won the thing. He's Birmingham's

(02:24:39):
Okay, so he wanted I don'tknow who Chase Garber's is. I don't
know right, Well, man,what an explosive topic they now to Klay
Thompson unfollowed the Warriors on social media. I always it's amazing how we then
we oh, we hadn't followed them. Okay, so he's not going to
be there. I think most ofus expect him to be moving on,
correct, Yeah, I think,so do you. I mean, I

(02:25:01):
don't know. I always find itweird he's still got friends there in the
organization. I'm sure friends. Uhhuh, I don't. Isn't it funny
how we git op? They hateonce you unfollowed, then you hate everybody,
apparently right, I don't even Idon't know. I've never understood the
you experienced so many memories with theteam, and if okay, so if

(02:25:22):
there's a couple guys in the organizationthat you don't like, then unfollow them.
Yeah, I don't know why ithas to be an umbrella at a
at a blanket statement over everybody.They got rid of me. So I
hate everybody to do with a GoldenState Warriors organization. I'm an unfollow it.
First Off, I'm Bolden State.I really don't care. I don't
you follow You unfollowed me? Great, we were gonna move on anyway.

(02:25:43):
Secondly, is there's probably still goodI've never when you leave a gig like
well, I think I'll just unfollowthe whole thing. I've got friends every
place I've ever worked. I stillhave people I really love. When I
left USC because I wasn't on scholarship, anymore than me. I hate usc
still follow the I just don't getthe concept unless you just can't stand there.
If you don't want to read it, didn't guess what they mute it

(02:26:05):
and don't even I don't. Idon't. I don't get the concept.
I just don't. I don't eithermakes no sense to me, nor do
I care if you unfollow me.Like most of the time, I wouldn't
know if you did, because Idon't pay enough attention to know who does
and doesn't does that the close peoplethat we engage with. But if there's
somebody I don't scroll through, sayscroll man, I can't believe that person.

(02:26:30):
They have a reason. Yeah,what are you gonna do? That's
on you now, it's an algorhythm. There you go. It's an
algo, A good algo. Thanksfor holding. Good morning, Good morning
Brian and Sean. Uh. I'mdeleted X so I don't have any X
sources. But anyway, I wantedto ask if you knew anything about Cooper

(02:26:50):
Hummel uh, And I don't knowthe source that I've read that the Astros
we're going to bring him up fromthe miners. Do you have any knowledge
about him or inside. I don'tknow enough about him Steve Sparks talked about,
didn't didn't Steve Sparks him up?He was called up two days ago.

(02:27:11):
Yes, but I don't know.I mean, if you're saying what
his three pitches are, I don'tknow. But Steve Sparks had mentioned him
and said that, you know,we're going to see what he's all about
in the rest. But so didhe Has he got any work yet?
Right? No? No yet?Okay, So there you go. Do
you know nothing? Do you knowmuch about it? He's a switch hitter
and in uh, let's see,he was hitting three oh one on base

(02:27:33):
of four twenty three, slugging afive o nine twenty nine years old.
Didn't Steve Sparks say they brought himup? No? No, didn't Steve
Sparks mention his name? I thoughthe was talking about uh bloss or he
mentioned more than one name. Hementioned meant that, yeah, they were
the two pitchers, right, okay, So he didn't mention. He didn't
mention. Somebody did somebody they mentionedthe guy, or that I'd read it
on social media, probably write onsocial media. Channel of Rome reported on

(02:27:56):
it, or Alexander reported on it. Yeah, I see a multiple position
guy. What positions? He plays? Both corner out full spots? Okay,
both corner? All right? AndI know Steve brought up there you
go. Okay, so another onethat can play multiple positions, right,
yeah, there you go. Idon't know enough about him or what the
strength of his game is. Yeah, he was. Uh. And the
two pitchers Steve mentioned, I don'tknow a lot about them either. If

(02:28:20):
you would have told me going upto this that Humble was a pitcher,
yeah, three weeks ago, Iwouldn't have known the difference because I haven't
followed his game, so I don'tknow. Have you ever seen him pitch?
I mean hit, I've ever seenwhat's the other kid's name? Blue
black? Yeah? Have you seenhim pitch? H No, I have.
I've heard good things about him though, too, right, Yeah,
he's been because of minor leagues.I gotta I might defer to people who

(02:28:41):
follow it closely minors. I don'tIs Humble the power guy Brian? Do
we know about Bower? Yeah?I mean he's he's corner. That's pretty
good. Jake bloss is the guythat's in double A that Steve Sparks mean
he was the other pitcher. Yeah, there you go. He's got a
e R A of like sub two, like a one to six. I

(02:29:01):
think you hear the names, butI don't know enough about him to tell
you what their strengths are. SoI'm assuming when you're a corner infield or
a corner outfit, that you've gotsome kind of power you should yeahah,
yeah, I was slugging a fivesixty nine above four fifty. I mean,
you're you're you're doing something. Soyeah, he got got called up
pretty emotional about us. So goodfor the kid. And Steve was talking
when he's talking about the pictures aboutalso that they may be relied upon to

(02:29:24):
have to do some stuff here,that they've done some good things in the
minor league. So I know youprobably don't get a chance to watch as
much minor league baseball as you'd like. So I like when our callers call
in and they know more. We'vehad some call in and mention what they've
seen. In mind, now weknow the names of you know, pedro
Leone, I have seen him,but yeah, guys that are kind of
new and rising through the organization.I don't know, but I sure like

(02:29:48):
when our callers call in and fillus in because I wouldn't know the difference
between a guy who I haven't seenplay enough to give you any insight on
it. Yeah, and until hegets to the major leagues for the most
part. Right, it's like aForest Whitley or paid drill down that we've
seen time and time again in theminors. Do we have any updates on
Kyle Tucker still not doing baseball activities? Don't anything. That's a hell of
a bruise man. He is stillbanged up with his hand. Uh,

(02:30:11):
they're banged up, man. YepAh, Hang, it could use Tucker
in the lineup. You could.Yeah, there's no question about it.
Let's get a break. We'll continueto talk about astros and being banged up.
The rotation set for the White SoxSeries? Is Verlander in it?
Next? On Sports Talk seven toeighty, Let the celebration start more.

(02:30:33):
Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninetyWe had Steve Sparks at eight thirty this
morning. If you missed that interview, it's up on the blog at Sports
seven ninety dot com. Mavericks andCeltics Game five in the NBA Finals tonight
in Boston Bryce and d Chambeau winningthe US Open. You're gonna have Fromber
on the mound tomorrow night. Thenyou'll have Hunter Brown on when day and

(02:31:01):
it is to be announced for Thursday. Was Dania Brown yesterday hinted that Justin
Erlander could pitch uh this series againstthe White Sox dealing with some neck discomfort.
Uh. We have the finals tonight, Game five. After that ass
whooping that Boston got delivered to themby the Dallas, Boston's best at home

(02:31:26):
tonight before they close it out.Oh my god, are you still on
the Mavericks train? Tripley? Ithink it gets closed out tonight. I
think Luke to take this to seven. I would love it. I'm not
lying to y'all, like you're notlying. It's not a hot take,
but I really, I really thinkhe's gonna take it to seven this year,
triple if they I mean, I'mI would love to see it those

(02:31:48):
seven because that's what I said originally. But I picked Mavericks. We said
Mavericks and seven and seven, andI had I don't think I'm gonna get
that. You got Celtics seven seven? Oh? I think I said six
six or seven. I don't thinkthat's I don't think there's any way in
hell that the Mavericks win four straight. Now, they got one down,
they gotta win three. I don'tthink it's gonna happen. But they still

(02:32:11):
got to play them and then yougotta knock them down. It'll be tough
going on the road and taking careof the Celtics rights in Boston. What
times the game tonight, Yes,sir it, Yeah, I'm gonna I'm
gonna say Boston closes it out tonight. They should. The should be a
wake up call after that asshoop andthey took in the last game and they

(02:32:31):
got they got taken to the woodshed. Celtics favored by six and a half.
Okay, I think it'd be wortha bet on the Mavericks. Yeah,
I would bet the Mavericks at sixand a half. You're giving me
those points, I'm taking them.But I think the overall, I think
Boston closed out the game night.They have a sixty seven point six percent
chance to win. That's a lotof yeah, so fear, yeah,

(02:32:54):
give me, give me, giveme Boston tonight. But is and I
may have to bet this, butI bet Dallas at six and a half,
even though it's on the road.I think they got a little more
confidence. I think you'll see Kyriestep up a little bit again, play
like he needs to play. AndLuca's got a chance to shut everybody up

(02:33:15):
the questions if he's a closer inthe playoffs. He doesn't want he doesn't
want that label. So and youknow the cry baby part that they're getting
him a little Winery's got to stepit up and play like a superstar,
which he is, and he's capable, and we'll see if he can do
that tonight. Trivile A. You'sstill riding with the Mavericks. I'm still
riding with Luca and Kyrie. Igot it. We're going. Man,

(02:33:37):
come on, man, the gamenot over. It's not over. Well,
Lucas said the last thing when theylost that game three. It's not
over till it's over. Well,it's a Yogi bearra Now, yeah,
there you go. Do you knowwho Yogi bear is. Let's let's let's
close it out today. Just goahead and shut it down. He wants
shut it down. Okay, I'mjust saying, hey, hey, just

(02:34:01):
making sure, man, you knowthese kids these days, Sean, Yeah,
because you're such a KG veteran yourself. Right, Oh man, wow,
I think I'm still gonna go withCeltics and six. Sorry, the
Celtics are the Seas Celtics. Theycall themselves the Seas people in Boston do.

(02:34:24):
So you're gonna see. So thenyou've got you got Boston losing tonight.
Yeah, that's fine if they're goingsix. Yeah, and you just
got done saying Boston's closed out.Now they're going six. They might close
it out tonight. They going tosix or five. I'm gonna stay with
my bet at six, but theymight close it out tonight and going five
either way, I had the Celticswinning. Yeah, so stick to that,
right, Yeah, I'll stick tothat. By the way, I

(02:34:45):
won the golf bet yesterday. Yeah, yes, sir, I get you.
But you had to one ship.You got one with Xander Schoffle and
you guys outpointed. Hey, theonly guy under par of our group was
Feno. Yeah, my guy.Yeah, but the overall score because the
Scheffler and you didn't even if we'dcounted overall, what guys shot when they

(02:35:07):
missed the cut forty eight? Yeah, way out of the race. You
actually at the end of the afterend of Friday. You only had three
guys three right, because either twodidn't make the cut. So good run
though, shit, I mean,I guess maybe maybe Pinehurst can water there,
you know fairway the bird spots terribleman optically at least you're so bitter

(02:35:31):
at Pinehurst, yeah man, Pinehurstnumber two, yeah, well, Pinehurst
number I think the car we shouldhave a major topic of conversation of who
and what are you willing to giveup to get pitching or something else at
the trade deadline or before? Andare the Astros in that desperate situation?
I think that's a major topic tomorrowTomorrow morning gets six. I don't want

(02:35:52):
to rely on guys I don't knowmuch about, like the Double A players
that I don't know anything about.Yeah, but then they may be.
But I don't think you can relyon that to sustain it, right at
least now, not this season.Right, That's what I'm talking about.
Good discussion for tomorrow morning at sixo'clock. We'll be back tomorrow morning.
That is Shawn Salisbury Triple. EmmanuelElmore is our producer. He makes it
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(02:36:15):
am Brian Lilma. Thank you forlistening. We're back tomorrow morning at six
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