June 10, 2025 • 11 mins
With the teams OTA's recently concluding and kicking into the start of mandatory Mini-camp today over at NRG, the Texans look primed and ready to make another run for the 2025 postseason following some very much needed offseason gets and grabs. Drafting a pretty solid class out of this years draft and now with the addition of Nick Chubb to the Texans backfield, Sean and Dan take a moment evaluating Chubb's addition to the organization and what could the Texans offense tend to look like rolling into the 2025-26 season with both first class backs in the Texans backfield in Joe Mixon and now Nick Chubb.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yesterday's signing. If Nick Tubb stays healthy, which I'm assuming
he will, will prove to be a very underrated signing
in the NFL this year, the division all across the board.
I think it's a great junior get and having Nick
Chubb as a part of it makes everybody better offensively,
I assure.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You yeah, And I mean as me and you talked
about yesterday. With Chubb, it's not about you know, is
he still the player of the past. I mean, you know, Sean,
I've talked about it numerous times. It's not about him
being that guy anymore. He's not being asked to be
the primary guy. He's being asked to bring some of
his physical running style, be somebody who can be a
(00:40):
compliment at this point and who knows. I mean again,
he's betting on himself. The Texans are betting on him
that this could be kind of an even more extreme
version of when George Fant rejuvenated his career here in Houston.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Oh. I would say it's a much bigger deal than that,
meaning you get a guy who's going to have to
be probably will be more impactful or at least noticeable
because he plays the position that we see. You know,
he's a perimeter guy, So I don't even think it's
a rejuvenation of his career. I mean, yes, it's a
comeback because of the injury, but when the guy's been
(01:16):
on the field, it's never he lost his skill set.
So if I'm him, I prepare that well. You know,
I know we got two backs here in guys that
have had Pro Bowl, top caliber seasons in their career
and he and Joe Mixon. But I don't think the
Chubb's coming into this thing. It's just going to be,
my opinion, be a great teammate. He's not a talker,
as we've talked about yesterday. I think he'll prepare the
(01:39):
shoulder any load they give him. And so while yeah,
he may not have to be the Nick Chubb that
was a Pro Bowl caliber player, he still may be.
Or the time when an injury to the lower half,
notwithstand SAMs, maybe a achilles, And even if it is,
the way these guys come back from this stuff's phenomenal.
(02:02):
Nick Chubb's not forty. I mean, Nick Chubb's still got
game in it. So I don't think this is just
a guy that signed. It's what's the risk two and
a half million bucks in an NFL where rookies damn
near make a million or what's seven hundred thousand a year.
They can't go to the rookie you can't make anything
lest how or whatever. It is six hundred and seven fifty.
So you're paying a veteran, former Pro Bowl type player
(02:24):
who was a belcow back just two and a half
years ago this kind of money. That's not that. I mean,
this is basically that stuff you need. Oh he's a
camp guy. This is not a camp guy, and they
know this. I'm just telling you this. His game's not gone.
The injury got lost in the shuffle all the bad
(02:45):
quarterback play Cleveland. It's easy to get lost in the
shuffle there because of the way their football franchise has been.
Nick Chubb's a good football player, and it is nice
that he can ease his way in without having to
be the guy. But I don't think you should. I
don't think when you turn on your television and watch
him where you go in personal watch him, you're gonna
be saying, oh, yeah, that's a guy who's lost three steps.
(03:06):
I think it's going to be quite the opposite. And
I think Nick Chubb will go in and prepare like
he's the starting running back even though he's not. We
know that, but I think Texans fans can be rest
assured that you're not just getting a guy You're like, man,
we got an old and beat up running back ring.
That's not the case here. Now. You hope both guys
can stay healthy, but this is a physical running back
(03:27):
group with both with great pride. The two guys up
front who can carry the load. I think you're going
to see more from Nick Chubb than you expect.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Well, and I saw and I don't remember who said
this yesterday on Twitter, so sorry if I can't give
proper credit, but their point was think of the cam
Akers move last year and what you were able to
do with cam Akers. You were able to trade him
for draft capital in the middle of the season. So
it's the same deal here in Chubb. I mean, you
mentioned it. He's not even thirty yet. He's going to
(03:57):
turn thirty in late December this year, so I mean,
he's still somebody that could have a lot of football.
And I mean, Sean, this might be extreme, but I'll
throw it out there. I mean, what were people saying
last year about Derrick Henry when he got to the
Baltimore Ravens, wondering if he still had it in him.
I mean, you know, I all right, well the Titans
(04:18):
are moving on from him, does that necessarily signal that
his best football is behind him?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
A couple down years because I mean average years for
him weren't very good. No quarterback for protection, meaning it
was a running back or bust. Because they weren't very
good at that position. They were starting a rookie and
they had another young player in They were just won't
very good. And when you're reliant on Derrick Henry, you
(04:43):
knew that, and he was. You know, all those carries
that up you think, well there's too much you know,
tread taking off the tire. Well they went to a
team that's got a quarterback that's a dual threat, you
got offensive line, they draft, Well, it's a great organization.
Also he had to do is do is say you
saw Ell is good at Nick as good as Derrick
Henry as we've seen, who for half the season was
(05:05):
an MVP candidate. And if it's not for him, I
mean Lamar had another great year, but he added to it.
So that's exactly that's a that's a close comparison because
and like you said, he's not even thirty yet. He'll
be thirty when the season is just about done, So
there's still football on those legs, and probably a little
more traction than Derrick Henry we would have thought going
(05:26):
in because Henry's taken more hits in his career and
then did a bigger workload because even in Cleveland he
was able to share some time. Was Nick Chubb. So yeah,
and Henry, and look look what it did. You got
most Lamar Jackson, a great organization, boom revitalized in a
phenomenal season. Well, say Kwan Barkley even though younger version
(05:47):
goes to the Eagles phenomenal season, even though he's young
and wasn't hurt. Just change the scenery and shub but
change the scenery. But a healthygy and all that hard
work in the offseason. I think you're going to see him.
It may not be the same season because he won't
be the feature back like a Henry or a sa
Kwon Barkley, but he's an ankle turn away from being
the feature back. That's what he is. And then one
(06:08):
of those guys have a common hurtz quarterback, Lamar Jackson quarterback,
Stroud quarterback, meaning all three really good. We always talk
about the back making the quarterback better. Well, great quarterbacks
make backs better. Why just because the bandwidth of a
football field, and especially with that quarterback in the case
of Hurts and Lamar Jackson, our dual threat quarterbacks and
(06:30):
can pull down and run for one hundred and twenty
five yards in a game and underrated feet is c. J. Stroud.
This is nothing but a good ad. There is no risk.
The guy's a good guy. There's no locker room trouble,
there's no headache. He goes to work, he does his gig.
He wouldn't have signed if he didn't understand what his
role was coming in but won't he feels like one
(06:51):
of those guys that won't accept I mean, he'll accept it,
but won't be content just coming off the bench and
being you know, spelling Joe Mixon. They can push each
other physical players, which add to a culture shift offensively
for this team, and everybody else will buy in. I
just I don't know what's not to like about it? Well,
what is not to like about having a guy with
(07:12):
great attitude, great work ethic? People like him in a
locker room. Who's a beast who just had to rehab
the had to to rehab his lower half and get
himself ready to go, and it'll be good to go
as long as he's healthy. Which you say that about
everybody in the league. What's not to like. It's not
a fifteen million dollar contract. Guys making two and a
half million bucks when we say, well, Sean, that's a
(07:33):
lot of money, not football terms, it's not in sports terms.
That's just a guy these days that that's what the
money says. My gut tells me he's going to get
closer to the five million on the earnings if if
he's if something were to happen, I won't mix it healthy.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I think he's a monster and they got to use
him even better. But this two head advised to find
me two more physical backs on one team in the league.
Find it and when if you can let me knowing,
I'll back off. I'm talking about two guys. They can
beat you on the edge, they'll pass protech and it
will thump you with the football on their hand, and
(08:10):
don't run away from hits, they run to them. So
I don't know what's not like this will be a
sneaky offseason signing that people will say, damn, there's other
teams that needed him more than the Texans. Let's put
it that way, and they let it. They let the
Texans grab him, which is a good bit, which is
a big get for the Texans in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, as the Texans will start madeatory mini camp today.
It's there a final offseason on field work before they
hit training camp later next month.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
C J.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Stroud, I mean something we haven't really had a chance
to talk about much. I mean, you know, Sean, I
mean it did make the declaration with you on here
we weren't going to do OTAs and mini camp deep dives.
But when it comes to the quarterback, well, I think
you can make somewhat of an exception because we haven't
seen him on the field yet.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Oh there's no question about it. But I can't wait.
But I can't wait, can you? I can't wait? It
is when wins training camp start.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
It'll be later next month, So I guess yeah, yeah, well, uh,
this I've got If you don't have reason for optimism,
not only for individual players, but for this team, considering
they make.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Sure that they were aggressive and we talked about Dana
Brown and his eye for talent. I'm just gonna tell
you if you if you haven't been paying attention to
Nick Cassario's moves since he's been here player moves, then
then we're not We're not giving him the credit he
deserves because it's the Patriot way. He deserves a lot
of credit. Very easily a year or two ago, could
(09:40):
have been the Executive of the Year as well. So
we keep an eye on a couple of leagues close moves.
These are the type of guys that a guy like
Bill Belichick with with Corey Dillon, I'm just using going
back to Chub mind you the example of him they revitalized.
He's seen this movie for twenty years. But yeah, in
the case quarterback running back, it's going to be and
(10:03):
the way this defense is built, we should be looking
for this training camp as much as any since well,
since you've been back in town and since I've been here,
this team's got to be You've got to be excited
about what they're bringing the table. They are that in
my opinion, they're a heavy favorite of the division. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Absolutely, I mean even with the moves that the Jags
have made. I mean, you know, Tennessee going to be
starting a rookie quarterback behind you. He was the you know,
top pick in the draft. And then I mean, you know,
the Indianapolis Colts still trying to figure out what their
quarterback situation is if Anthony Richardson can stay healthy. So
a lot of questions with the other three teams, not
as many with the Texans as we'll get back into
(10:40):
the Nick Chubb conversation as the show goes along. But
the Astros starting up a serious tonight with the White
Sox over at Dyke In Park. Lance mccullors junior going
to get the ball and now a chance to talk
him much with you, Sean, So we'll do that right here.
It is the Sean Salisbury Show getting going on a
Tuesday here in your home of the Astros in the
Rock at Sports Talk seven ninety
Yesterday's signing. If Nick Tubb stays healthy, which I'm assuming
he will, will prove to be a very underrated signing
in the NFL this year, the division all across the board.
I think it's a great junior get and having Nick
Chubb as a part of it makes everybody better offensively,
I assure.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You yeah, And I mean as me and you talked
about yesterday. With Chubb, it's not about you know, is
he still the player of the past. I mean, you know, Sean,
I've talked about it numerous times. It's not about him
being that guy anymore. He's not being asked to be
the primary guy. He's being asked to bring some of
his physical running style, be somebody who can be a
(00:40):
compliment at this point and who knows. I mean again,
he's betting on himself. The Texans are betting on him
that this could be kind of an even more extreme
version of when George Fant rejuvenated his career here in Houston.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Oh. I would say it's a much bigger deal than that,
meaning you get a guy who's going to have to
be probably will be more impactful or at least noticeable
because he plays the position that we see. You know,
he's a perimeter guy, So I don't even think it's
a rejuvenation of his career. I mean, yes, it's a
comeback because of the injury, but when the guy's been
(01:16):
on the field, it's never he lost his skill set.
So if I'm him, I prepare that well. You know,
I know we got two backs here in guys that
have had Pro Bowl, top caliber seasons in their career
and he and Joe Mixon. But I don't think the
Chubb's coming into this thing. It's just going to be,
my opinion, be a great teammate. He's not a talker,
as we've talked about yesterday. I think he'll prepare the
(01:39):
shoulder any load they give him. And so while yeah,
he may not have to be the Nick Chubb that
was a Pro Bowl caliber player, he still may be.
Or the time when an injury to the lower half,
notwithstand SAMs, maybe a achilles, And even if it is,
the way these guys come back from this stuff's phenomenal.
(02:02):
Nick Chubb's not forty. I mean, Nick Chubb's still got
game in it. So I don't think this is just
a guy that signed. It's what's the risk two and
a half million bucks in an NFL where rookies damn
near make a million or what's seven hundred thousand a year.
They can't go to the rookie you can't make anything
lest how or whatever. It is six hundred and seven fifty.
So you're paying a veteran, former Pro Bowl type player
(02:24):
who was a belcow back just two and a half
years ago this kind of money. That's not that. I mean,
this is basically that stuff you need. Oh he's a
camp guy. This is not a camp guy, and they
know this. I'm just telling you this. His game's not gone.
The injury got lost in the shuffle all the bad
(02:45):
quarterback play Cleveland. It's easy to get lost in the
shuffle there because of the way their football franchise has been.
Nick Chubb's a good football player, and it is nice
that he can ease his way in without having to
be the guy. But I don't think you should. I
don't think when you turn on your television and watch
him where you go in personal watch him, you're gonna
be saying, oh, yeah, that's a guy who's lost three steps.
(03:06):
I think it's going to be quite the opposite. And
I think Nick Chubb will go in and prepare like
he's the starting running back even though he's not. We
know that, but I think Texans fans can be rest
assured that you're not just getting a guy You're like, man,
we got an old and beat up running back ring.
That's not the case here. Now. You hope both guys
can stay healthy, but this is a physical running back
(03:27):
group with both with great pride. The two guys up
front who can carry the load. I think you're going
to see more from Nick Chubb than you expect.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Well, and I saw and I don't remember who said
this yesterday on Twitter, so sorry if I can't give
proper credit, but their point was think of the cam
Akers move last year and what you were able to
do with cam Akers. You were able to trade him
for draft capital in the middle of the season. So
it's the same deal here in Chubb. I mean, you
mentioned it. He's not even thirty yet. He's going to
(03:57):
turn thirty in late December this year, so I mean,
he's still somebody that could have a lot of football.
And I mean, Sean, this might be extreme, but I'll
throw it out there. I mean, what were people saying
last year about Derrick Henry when he got to the
Baltimore Ravens, wondering if he still had it in him.
I mean, you know, I all right, well the Titans
(04:18):
are moving on from him, does that necessarily signal that
his best football is behind him?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
A couple down years because I mean average years for
him weren't very good. No quarterback for protection, meaning it
was a running back or bust. Because they weren't very
good at that position. They were starting a rookie and
they had another young player in They were just won't
very good. And when you're reliant on Derrick Henry, you
(04:43):
knew that, and he was. You know, all those carries
that up you think, well there's too much you know,
tread taking off the tire. Well they went to a
team that's got a quarterback that's a dual threat, you
got offensive line, they draft, Well, it's a great organization.
Also he had to do is do is say you
saw Ell is good at Nick as good as Derrick
Henry as we've seen, who for half the season was
(05:05):
an MVP candidate. And if it's not for him, I
mean Lamar had another great year, but he added to it.
So that's exactly that's a that's a close comparison because
and like you said, he's not even thirty yet. He'll
be thirty when the season is just about done, So
there's still football on those legs, and probably a little
more traction than Derrick Henry we would have thought going
(05:26):
in because Henry's taken more hits in his career and
then did a bigger workload because even in Cleveland he
was able to share some time. Was Nick Chubb. So yeah,
and Henry, and look look what it did. You got
most Lamar Jackson, a great organization, boom revitalized in a
phenomenal season. Well, say Kwan Barkley even though younger version
(05:47):
goes to the Eagles phenomenal season, even though he's young
and wasn't hurt. Just change the scenery and shub but
change the scenery. But a healthygy and all that hard
work in the offseason. I think you're going to see him.
It may not be the same season because he won't
be the feature back like a Henry or a sa
Kwon Barkley, but he's an ankle turn away from being
the feature back. That's what he is. And then one
(06:08):
of those guys have a common hurtz quarterback, Lamar Jackson quarterback,
Stroud quarterback, meaning all three really good. We always talk
about the back making the quarterback better. Well, great quarterbacks
make backs better. Why just because the bandwidth of a
football field, and especially with that quarterback in the case
of Hurts and Lamar Jackson, our dual threat quarterbacks and
(06:30):
can pull down and run for one hundred and twenty
five yards in a game and underrated feet is c. J. Stroud.
This is nothing but a good ad. There is no risk.
The guy's a good guy. There's no locker room trouble,
there's no headache. He goes to work, he does his gig.
He wouldn't have signed if he didn't understand what his
role was coming in but won't he feels like one
(06:51):
of those guys that won't accept I mean, he'll accept it,
but won't be content just coming off the bench and
being you know, spelling Joe Mixon. They can push each
other physical players, which add to a culture shift offensively
for this team, and everybody else will buy in. I
just I don't know what's not to like about it? Well,
what is not to like about having a guy with
(07:12):
great attitude, great work ethic? People like him in a
locker room. Who's a beast who just had to rehab
the had to to rehab his lower half and get
himself ready to go, and it'll be good to go
as long as he's healthy. Which you say that about
everybody in the league. What's not to like. It's not
a fifteen million dollar contract. Guys making two and a
half million bucks when we say, well, Sean, that's a
(07:33):
lot of money, not football terms, it's not in sports terms.
That's just a guy these days that that's what the
money says. My gut tells me he's going to get
closer to the five million on the earnings if if
he's if something were to happen, I won't mix it healthy.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I think he's a monster and they got to use
him even better. But this two head advised to find
me two more physical backs on one team in the league.
Find it and when if you can let me knowing,
I'll back off. I'm talking about two guys. They can
beat you on the edge, they'll pass protech and it
will thump you with the football on their hand, and
(08:10):
don't run away from hits, they run to them. So
I don't know what's not like this will be a
sneaky offseason signing that people will say, damn, there's other
teams that needed him more than the Texans. Let's put
it that way, and they let it. They let the
Texans grab him, which is a good bit, which is
a big get for the Texans in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, as the Texans will start madeatory mini camp today.
It's there a final offseason on field work before they
hit training camp later next month.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
C J.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Stroud, I mean something we haven't really had a chance
to talk about much. I mean, you know, Sean, I
mean it did make the declaration with you on here
we weren't going to do OTAs and mini camp deep dives.
But when it comes to the quarterback, well, I think
you can make somewhat of an exception because we haven't
seen him on the field yet.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Oh there's no question about it. But I can't wait.
But I can't wait, can you? I can't wait? It
is when wins training camp start.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
It'll be later next month, So I guess yeah, yeah, well, uh,
this I've got If you don't have reason for optimism,
not only for individual players, but for this team, considering
they make.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Sure that they were aggressive and we talked about Dana
Brown and his eye for talent. I'm just gonna tell
you if you if you haven't been paying attention to
Nick Cassario's moves since he's been here player moves, then
then we're not We're not giving him the credit he
deserves because it's the Patriot way. He deserves a lot
of credit. Very easily a year or two ago, could
(09:40):
have been the Executive of the Year as well. So
we keep an eye on a couple of leagues close moves.
These are the type of guys that a guy like
Bill Belichick with with Corey Dillon, I'm just using going
back to Chub mind you the example of him they revitalized.
He's seen this movie for twenty years. But yeah, in
the case quarterback running back, it's going to be and
(10:03):
the way this defense is built, we should be looking
for this training camp as much as any since well,
since you've been back in town and since I've been here,
this team's got to be You've got to be excited
about what they're bringing the table. They are that in
my opinion, they're a heavy favorite of the division. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Absolutely, I mean even with the moves that the Jags
have made. I mean, you know, Tennessee going to be
starting a rookie quarterback behind you. He was the you know,
top pick in the draft. And then I mean, you know,
the Indianapolis Colts still trying to figure out what their
quarterback situation is if Anthony Richardson can stay healthy. So
a lot of questions with the other three teams, not
as many with the Texans as we'll get back into
(10:40):
the Nick Chubb conversation as the show goes along. But
the Astros starting up a serious tonight with the White
Sox over at Dyke In Park. Lance mccullors junior going
to get the ball and now a chance to talk
him much with you, Sean, So we'll do that right here.
It is the Sean Salisbury Show getting going on a
Tuesday here in your home of the Astros in the
Rock at Sports Talk seven ninety
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