April 24, 2025 • 11 mins
Roughly just a few hours away now and discussing a few last minute needs for teams and organizations across the league, Sean and Dan take a moment with someone who's drafted and written thousands of mocks over the years leading to this annual day in the NFL. NFL draft expert and writer Eric Edholm joins and shares his takes on the potential grabs and pickups the Texans may get this year, among a few other teams that have holes in their rosters with desperate needs of players at certain positions that may fit perfectly coming out of this years 2025 draft.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Eric.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
As we sit here in Houston at the moment they
are set to pick twenty five. There are, you know,
reports out there that they could move up. I mean,
it's draft a anything can pretty much happen, But is
offensive line pretty much where you're set with the Texans
wherever they do decide to select tonight.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yeah, I think I think that's the position I'm most
looking at. I mean, I could could see a receiver,
you know, I could obviously see a defensive lineman or
some sort, but that seems to be the position I
kind of default to when I've done my mocks or
when I've sort of projected that range a little bit.
And you know, it's going to be interesting to see
who's available and how the medical especially reports come back
(00:42):
on some of the players, and also.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
You know who's going to be available.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I mean, I thought maybe Gray's abel would be in
that range for him.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Tyler Booker.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
But you know, the thing that I've sort of figured
out in the last forty eight seventy two hours is
that teams have such different grades on on a lot
of these guys. It's really hard to kind of plant
people in the right area. You're trying to get him close,
but it's hard to figure out who'll be available. I
do think a good lineman will be there for him, though,
so it could make the decision relatively easy.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Hey, Eric, if they want to now with that big
guy at that spot at twenty five, interior guy, can
you get a Can you get a ten year starter
with the twenty fifth pick? At least on the surface
here with all the draft mock draft stuff, can you
get a good tackle at twenty five that you can
pencil in and play? Even though this team it feels
(01:34):
like by getting Cam Robinson they're not looking for that yet.
But apparently they got to go up and get a
young stud because he may not be long for the position.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah, I mean, you know, you can look at it
two ways.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
You might be able to get the media in tiers
starter with a guy like Tyler Booker is able, you
might be able to get a tackle there.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I don't you know.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Kelvin Banks is an interesting player, obviously, grew up about
twenty minutes down the road, yep from the Texas facility.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Local kid.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
You know you handle your business against will and Anderson
and your second college game, You've got some chops to you.
I'm a little surprised there hasn't been more buzz for him.
I think the issue has been guarter tackle teams sort
of see it differently.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
I would at least try him out there.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I think he's an option, especially for a team like
that where maybe he's playing a different position next year.
You know, you cross trade him at a couple of different
spots and sort of see where they fit. I think
that would be a, you know, a perfectly fine way
to go about it. You know, Jonathan Ogden played left
guard for a year if we remember all those years ago.
But uh, it can happen, right, and so I would
(02:36):
I would think that if that opportunity exists, they would
certainly look into it.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, and Eric, I'm not out on I'm greedy as
a quarterback. I want to protect the quarterback. Give me
receivers it can go play. I'm if they had the
fourth let's say that was the fourth lineman on their
board available at twenty five, and the second receiver. Because
I'm a big, like love guy. If I like you,
I'm not sure I'm taking you. If I love you,
I don't care what anybody else says. I'm taking you
(03:02):
because I've done my due diligence. So I'm not convinced,
nor should I be. If there's a good receiver like
a Booka from Ohio State and the lineman, you're kind
of wondering, why not take a receiver there as well?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, I mean that's the other position that I've that
I've thought about there, and you know, getting somebody to
replace what we saw the difference with and without digs,
you know, and obviously with and without an ECO for
that matter too when he was hurt. So you know,
obviously that's that's something you can't overlook. The funny thing
that seems to be you know, normally the second or
third receiver in a draft would be somebody inside the
(03:38):
top twenty receiver corner.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
We see a lot of that position typically in the
top twenty picks.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
This year not so much.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
You know, there might be one or two receivers one
or two corners. You know, it's hard to kind of
the real value of both those positions might be on
day two. So you might be able to, I mean
you might depending on who's there. Buca is so solid,
so polished, I think he's going to end up being
a really good slot in the NFL, but you could
play him outside that, you know, do we like that
(04:10):
or do we take eighty five ninety percent of that
type of prospect in round two? And whereas the lineman
drop off pretty precipitously after a certain point, Right, I
think that's going to happen, maybe midway through day two.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Eric head home again NFL media. You can find him
at NFL dot com on Twitter as well. Eric underscore
at home. And I mean, you know, we talked about
the possibilities of Nick Assio and the Texans Eric being
aggressive on day one, but with you know, the three
other top one hundred picks they are going to have.
I mean, do you feel like maybe it's more of
a target of you trade back in the round two
(04:47):
or you know, you try to move up even further
in round three. I mean, do you think that maybe
that's a more logical spot that Nick Cassio could go.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yeah, totally possible. Right.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Obviously, this this feels like a draft that you know,
maybe there are a ton of trades up top. Maybe
there are, I don't know, but after a certain point,
I could see the activity really ramping up. In fact,
talk to somebody last night who said a lot of
the calls that they were making were with those those
day two scenarios, Right, what would it take to move
(05:17):
up from you know, thirty something to twenty something, what
would it take to move down from that spot midway
to the round or whatever.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
So a lot of.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
The kind of the cross check calls last night seemed
to be on that front. So yeah, absolutely could see
that as a possibility. And again, this is a draft
where it feels like the lack of blue players, the
true top tier guys, is really kind of glaring. But
the depth at certain spots is pretty nice. I think
there are a lot of solid players in this draft.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I mean, the longer I've gone, the more I've actually
appreciated this draft class.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
And that day too could end up being a real,
you know, kind of a heavy lifting day for certain
teams that understand that value.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Eric, you and I, let's let's go around the league.
I'm the coach, but you're the GM, and you're making
a final decision. We're sitting in a room and we
got a top ten pick, and I say to you,
all right, uh, Shadre Sanders, what do you say?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I say, we can wait. That's what I have been
able to gather. Now.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I know I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth.
I had them ninth in my mock draft that I
turned in on Saturday, and Saturday feels like about nine
weeks ago. And isn't it funny guys, when you you
do your final mock or whatever, you turn it in,
then you show a few people and they say, well,
that's not happening.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I can tell you right now that isn't gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
One of the isn't gonna happen things is at least
what someone told me.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
With Sar at nine.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I put him there because I thought, boy, he's gonna
go at some point. I don't know where, you know,
just does Pittsburgh take him at twenty one? Of those
two scenarios, that feels more likely that he would go
somewhere in that range. I suspect it's not a trade
up situation. I think there are enough people who like
Shitar that he has a real good chance of being
drafted tonight. But also that like love thing you were
(07:12):
talking about, I don't know that there's a lot of
love for the enters the prospect, and so I feel
like it's gonna be the ladder half or the latter
third of round one if it does happen tonight. So
if I'm sitting at nine, let's say just to use
that top ten spot, I'm saying we can wait, we
(07:32):
can take a different football player here, try to swing
up for round two if that option is still available,
or sweat it out and see how far he falls.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
So that's gonna be an interesting one right there.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Okay, Now, And I don't usually as the coach, I
don't usually subscribe to a first round running back, especially
in the top ten. But some guys, some catchered just
different and we saw the impact Barkley and Joe Mixon
made here, Barkley Cook in Buffalo, Derek Henry with Lamar
jacksonash You're running back emerged again. I mean they've been
doing it, but they kind of revalued themselves. I think
(08:06):
I think Ashton genty special now. So I bring him
up to you and I say, can he change our
program offensively? Do we draft him? What do you say?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I think?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
At that point? Yeah, I'm a little ambivalent on this one.
I'm the one man I say yes for.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
All the reasons you you just pointed out.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I mean, I think He's as good a back as
we've seen, or very close to as good a back
as we've seen in the draft since Parkley, the one
guy I think I would have had a slightly higher
grade on him. You know, the way I do it
is a little a little different than other people, but
I would say Bijon was maybe just a tiny bit
higher in my mind coming.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Into the league.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But again, I you know, look at Bucky Irving in Tampa,
how he changed their run game too.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I mean, Josh.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Jacobs in Green Bay, all the guys you mentioned, Derrick Henry, whoever.
You know, the run game has been kind of cycling
back into the league for a few years now. As
defense is it lighter and faster, they're going to load
up on big guys. And you know, I think the
value of the running back is has always been a
little bit of an oversouled topic.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
But in this day and age, they can catch passes, block.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Them on third downs, also run the ball twenty times
a game to be that if they're special, if they
can be worth that that high page.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yep, yeah, I think we're on the exact same page. Okay,
the biggest Gary if we're sitting around too and I say,
I need one that I pencil in now, I'll see
you in a decade that I know he's going to
be a hell of a player that if he's even
isn't great, he's still going to start for us. He's
that good. Who in this draft is your closest to
can't miss in this draft?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Running back?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Anywhere? No, anywhere, any position, I don't care if it's
guard or songid safety, the who's the guy that you
say tonight, tomorrow? Any day?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Do you say? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Any day can be today can be the first. I
don't care who it is or what position? Did I say?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Did?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I know there's no gameuarantees? But this is about as
close as he writes.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Who is that? Look?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I mean Travis Hunter? To me, he's one hundred and
eighty three pounds. You got to point that out right.
That's one big concern for me. Is like a guy
trying to do it both ways full time. To me,
I don't think it happens. I think it's going to
be stronger on one side of the ball than it
is on the other. But he's almost kind of bust proof.
I mean, I know it sounds crazy, but when you
have a guy who enters the draft, who is rated
(10:26):
as I think very clearly the top corner and the
top wide receiver granted both those classes we said earlier,
not as top heavy as usual, but still come off.
I mean, I just I don't, you know, I don't
know how he fails in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Like he may not be the special.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Transcendent, you know, otherworldly creature that we've made him out
to be in some ways, but I would be shocked
if he isn't. With that electric pic athleticism, the ball
in his hands, he looks special, you know, his ability
to take the football away on defense.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I think he's gonna end it being a really good player.
I think it's going to be a black to watch him.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, his ball skills are off the charts man.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Eric at home again NFL media joining us here on
the Seawan Salisbury Show. Find him on Twitter at Eric
Underscore at home, Eric, get some rest before the nights,
and we appreciate you squeezing us in today.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
My man, you always do such great and do such
great work. We appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Thank you. Have a great night today and hope you
get all the blockers and.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Greedy give us all give them all to us Christmas
Day for football.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Thanks Y.
Eric.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
As we sit here in Houston at the moment they
are set to pick twenty five. There are, you know,
reports out there that they could move up. I mean,
it's draft a anything can pretty much happen, But is
offensive line pretty much where you're set with the Texans
wherever they do decide to select tonight.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yeah, I think I think that's the position I'm most
looking at. I mean, I could could see a receiver,
you know, I could obviously see a defensive lineman or
some sort, but that seems to be the position I
kind of default to when I've done my mocks or
when I've sort of projected that range a little bit.
And you know, it's going to be interesting to see
who's available and how the medical especially reports come back
(00:42):
on some of the players, and also.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
You know who's going to be available.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I mean, I thought maybe Gray's abel would be in
that range for him.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Tyler Booker.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
But you know, the thing that I've sort of figured
out in the last forty eight seventy two hours is
that teams have such different grades on on a lot
of these guys. It's really hard to kind of plant
people in the right area. You're trying to get him close,
but it's hard to figure out who'll be available. I
do think a good lineman will be there for him, though,
so it could make the decision relatively easy.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Hey, Eric, if they want to now with that big
guy at that spot at twenty five, interior guy, can
you get a Can you get a ten year starter
with the twenty fifth pick? At least on the surface
here with all the draft mock draft stuff, can you
get a good tackle at twenty five that you can
pencil in and play? Even though this team it feels
(01:34):
like by getting Cam Robinson they're not looking for that yet.
But apparently they got to go up and get a
young stud because he may not be long for the position.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah, I mean, you know, you can look at it
two ways.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
You might be able to get the media in tiers
starter with a guy like Tyler Booker is able, you
might be able to get a tackle there.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I don't you know.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Kelvin Banks is an interesting player, obviously, grew up about
twenty minutes down the road, yep from the Texas facility.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Local kid.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
You know you handle your business against will and Anderson
and your second college game, You've got some chops to you.
I'm a little surprised there hasn't been more buzz for him.
I think the issue has been guarter tackle teams sort
of see it differently.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
I would at least try him out there.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I think he's an option, especially for a team like
that where maybe he's playing a different position next year.
You know, you cross trade him at a couple of different
spots and sort of see where they fit. I think
that would be a, you know, a perfectly fine way
to go about it. You know, Jonathan Ogden played left
guard for a year if we remember all those years ago.
But uh, it can happen, right, and so I would
(02:36):
I would think that if that opportunity exists, they would
certainly look into it.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, and Eric, I'm not out on I'm greedy as
a quarterback. I want to protect the quarterback. Give me
receivers it can go play. I'm if they had the
fourth let's say that was the fourth lineman on their
board available at twenty five, and the second receiver. Because
I'm a big, like love guy. If I like you,
I'm not sure I'm taking you. If I love you,
I don't care what anybody else says. I'm taking you
(03:02):
because I've done my due diligence. So I'm not convinced,
nor should I be. If there's a good receiver like
a Booka from Ohio State and the lineman, you're kind
of wondering, why not take a receiver there as well?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, I mean that's the other position that I've that
I've thought about there, and you know, getting somebody to
replace what we saw the difference with and without digs,
you know, and obviously with and without an ECO for
that matter too when he was hurt. So you know,
obviously that's that's something you can't overlook. The funny thing
that seems to be you know, normally the second or
third receiver in a draft would be somebody inside the
(03:38):
top twenty receiver corner.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
We see a lot of that position typically in the
top twenty picks.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
This year not so much.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
You know, there might be one or two receivers one
or two corners. You know, it's hard to kind of
the real value of both those positions might be on
day two. So you might be able to, I mean
you might depending on who's there. Buca is so solid,
so polished, I think he's going to end up being
a really good slot in the NFL, but you could
play him outside that, you know, do we like that
(04:10):
or do we take eighty five ninety percent of that
type of prospect in round two? And whereas the lineman
drop off pretty precipitously after a certain point, Right, I
think that's going to happen, maybe midway through day two.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Eric head home again NFL media. You can find him
at NFL dot com on Twitter as well. Eric underscore
at home. And I mean, you know, we talked about
the possibilities of Nick Assio and the Texans Eric being
aggressive on day one, but with you know, the three
other top one hundred picks they are going to have.
I mean, do you feel like maybe it's more of
a target of you trade back in the round two
(04:47):
or you know, you try to move up even further
in round three. I mean, do you think that maybe
that's a more logical spot that Nick Cassio could go.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yeah, totally possible. Right.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Obviously, this this feels like a draft that you know,
maybe there are a ton of trades up top. Maybe
there are, I don't know, but after a certain point,
I could see the activity really ramping up. In fact,
talk to somebody last night who said a lot of
the calls that they were making were with those those
day two scenarios, Right, what would it take to move
(05:17):
up from you know, thirty something to twenty something, what
would it take to move down from that spot midway
to the round or whatever.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
So a lot of.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
The kind of the cross check calls last night seemed
to be on that front. So yeah, absolutely could see
that as a possibility. And again, this is a draft
where it feels like the lack of blue players, the
true top tier guys, is really kind of glaring. But
the depth at certain spots is pretty nice. I think
there are a lot of solid players in this draft.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I mean, the longer I've gone, the more I've actually
appreciated this draft class.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
And that day too could end up being a real,
you know, kind of a heavy lifting day for certain
teams that understand that value.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Eric, you and I, let's let's go around the league.
I'm the coach, but you're the GM, and you're making
a final decision. We're sitting in a room and we
got a top ten pick, and I say to you,
all right, uh, Shadre Sanders, what do you say?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I say, we can wait. That's what I have been
able to gather. Now.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I know I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth.
I had them ninth in my mock draft that I
turned in on Saturday, and Saturday feels like about nine
weeks ago. And isn't it funny guys, when you you
do your final mock or whatever, you turn it in,
then you show a few people and they say, well,
that's not happening.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I can tell you right now that isn't gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
One of the isn't gonna happen things is at least
what someone told me.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
With Sar at nine.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I put him there because I thought, boy, he's gonna
go at some point. I don't know where, you know,
just does Pittsburgh take him at twenty one? Of those
two scenarios, that feels more likely that he would go
somewhere in that range. I suspect it's not a trade
up situation. I think there are enough people who like
Shitar that he has a real good chance of being
drafted tonight. But also that like love thing you were
(07:12):
talking about, I don't know that there's a lot of
love for the enters the prospect, and so I feel
like it's gonna be the ladder half or the latter
third of round one if it does happen tonight. So
if I'm sitting at nine, let's say just to use
that top ten spot, I'm saying we can wait, we
(07:32):
can take a different football player here, try to swing
up for round two if that option is still available,
or sweat it out and see how far he falls.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
So that's gonna be an interesting one right there.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Okay, Now, And I don't usually as the coach, I
don't usually subscribe to a first round running back, especially
in the top ten. But some guys, some catchered just
different and we saw the impact Barkley and Joe Mixon
made here, Barkley Cook in Buffalo, Derek Henry with Lamar
jacksonash You're running back emerged again. I mean they've been
doing it, but they kind of revalued themselves. I think
(08:06):
I think Ashton genty special now. So I bring him
up to you and I say, can he change our
program offensively? Do we draft him? What do you say?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I think?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
At that point? Yeah, I'm a little ambivalent on this one.
I'm the one man I say yes for.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
All the reasons you you just pointed out.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I mean, I think He's as good a back as
we've seen, or very close to as good a back
as we've seen in the draft since Parkley, the one
guy I think I would have had a slightly higher
grade on him. You know, the way I do it
is a little a little different than other people, but
I would say Bijon was maybe just a tiny bit
higher in my mind coming.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Into the league.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But again, I you know, look at Bucky Irving in Tampa,
how he changed their run game too.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I mean, Josh.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Jacobs in Green Bay, all the guys you mentioned, Derrick Henry, whoever.
You know, the run game has been kind of cycling
back into the league for a few years now. As
defense is it lighter and faster, they're going to load
up on big guys. And you know, I think the
value of the running back is has always been a
little bit of an oversouled topic.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
But in this day and age, they can catch passes, block.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Them on third downs, also run the ball twenty times
a game to be that if they're special, if they
can be worth that that high page.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yep, yeah, I think we're on the exact same page. Okay,
the biggest Gary if we're sitting around too and I say,
I need one that I pencil in now, I'll see
you in a decade that I know he's going to
be a hell of a player that if he's even
isn't great, he's still going to start for us. He's
that good. Who in this draft is your closest to
can't miss in this draft?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Running back?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Anywhere? No, anywhere, any position, I don't care if it's
guard or songid safety, the who's the guy that you
say tonight, tomorrow? Any day?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Do you say? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Any day can be today can be the first. I
don't care who it is or what position? Did I say?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Did?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I know there's no gameuarantees? But this is about as
close as he writes.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Who is that? Look?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I mean Travis Hunter? To me, he's one hundred and
eighty three pounds. You got to point that out right.
That's one big concern for me. Is like a guy
trying to do it both ways full time. To me,
I don't think it happens. I think it's going to
be stronger on one side of the ball than it
is on the other. But he's almost kind of bust proof.
I mean, I know it sounds crazy, but when you
have a guy who enters the draft, who is rated
(10:26):
as I think very clearly the top corner and the
top wide receiver granted both those classes we said earlier,
not as top heavy as usual, but still come off.
I mean, I just I don't, you know, I don't
know how he fails in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Like he may not be the special.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Transcendent, you know, otherworldly creature that we've made him out
to be in some ways, but I would be shocked
if he isn't. With that electric pic athleticism, the ball
in his hands, he looks special, you know, his ability
to take the football away on defense.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I think he's gonna end it being a really good player.
I think it's going to be a black to watch him.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, his ball skills are off the charts man.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Eric at home again NFL media joining us here on
the Seawan Salisbury Show. Find him on Twitter at Eric
Underscore at home, Eric, get some rest before the nights,
and we appreciate you squeezing us in today.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
My man, you always do such great and do such
great work. We appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Thank you. Have a great night today and hope you
get all the blockers and.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Greedy give us all give them all to us Christmas
Day for football.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Thanks Y.
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