Europe Retains Ryder Cup, Astros Win Series Over Angels; Miss Postseason, Texans Gain 1st Win Against Titans

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury Houston.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Sewan Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (00:12):
To usc Troup's longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dan Matthews. This is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
And that ball is gone.

Speaker 5 (00:25):
Just does Claire the fence and left center field for
Yiner Diaz his twentieth homer of the year, and the
Astros late two to one. Now the two zero and
that's smash deep to left. Racing back on it as
Taylor still going back looking up sea letter.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
End of the Astros bullpen for Ramone.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
Arias a two run homer, the Astros second homer of
the inning and it's four to one. Houston Arias with
his eleventh of the year. Right hander Connor Brockton. End
of the game now for the Angels facing Bryce Matthews.
First pitch and Matthews hits it well and hits it
deep to left, sends back Taylor at the wall looking up,
see a letter back to back Jacks first areas now

(01:07):
Matthews and the Astros lead is five to one as
Connor Brockton gets a rude greeting on his first pitch
of his last outing of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Three to one.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
That's lifted out to center and deep going back on
a Tiodosio under the warning trek at the wall see
a letter. Victor Carratini goes deep to straightaway center field
and the Astros lead is six to one. Cartini's twelfth
of the year long set by Murray the kick and

(01:38):
the payoff pitch. That is strike three call on the
outside corner. And that is the ballgame. The Houston Astros
end the twenty twenty five season with a victory. They're
eighty seventh of the year as they defeat the Angels
six to two.

Speaker 6 (02:00):
And that is how twenty twenty five ends for your Strows.
And with that we say away we go, and good
morning here Sean Salisbury show Sports Talk seven ninety going
into the weekend, you had a chance. After Friday night,
that chance, Sean Salisbury pretty much went away where you
had a three to nothing lead and then you gave
up four unanswered and you lose that. Then you go

(02:22):
in the Saturday saying, all right, well, Cleveland Detroit, one
of you lose your next two, and then we got
a shot. Well, then Saturday night both Cleveland and Detroit decided,
now we'll go ahead and end this.

Speaker 7 (02:32):
Now, well, what happens is I mean, not that we're
prophetic or anything. I told you it was going to
come down to the last series or two of the season.
Cold we discussed all year long, this is just that season,
and this epitomized exactly who they've been this year.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Couldn't hold a lead on Saturday, right or was it
Friday Friday night? Friday night?

Speaker 7 (02:54):
Right Friday night, couldn't hold the lead because they won
Bowl Saturday Sunday. Couldn't hold the lead, and you were
relying on somebody else and somebody else wasn't helping you,
and you didn't score when necessary late, but gave up
runs that were critical on Friday. You didn't get the
clutch hit a lot of times.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
This year.

Speaker 7 (03:14):
Had a good season considered, all factors considered, and the
run is over until next year.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I mean the playoff run.

Speaker 7 (03:21):
I mean we knew eventually it was going to happen
where they weren't going to make the playoffs, and it
happened sooner than I think a lot of us would like. Yes,
there's injuries, and everybody will we can all point to
that fair enough, but you still got to line up
with the team, and unfortunately they line up with the
team and they just weren't good enough to get it done.
Their bats this year were just not consistently good enough.

(03:41):
And with all the talk about Korea coming in, I
think there were a sub five hundred team wh Kreg
got there since he's been there. If I'm not mistaken
or close to it, thought that it's on him, I'm
just saying the boosts that you were looking for. Individually,
I thought he played pretty well, but he didn't get
that boost that we thought was going to take you
over the top. And it's not just on him, but
start picking fit not having your do on boy. It

(04:02):
was Dana brown Wright when you got him, you're different
most of the time. Without him, that team is just
not good enough to at the plate overcome him. Right
the loss of him, you go, we go through and
we don't need I mean, you know, it's a new
season for another team in this town, and you know
we'll spend a lot of time talking football, Ryder Cup
and all that. But there's gonna be there should be

(04:23):
a lot of changes. You're gonna have to look long
and hard at your roster at the Astros when you
leave it into somebody else's hand and it goes back to,
like I said, four or five, six games along the way,
you're going to look back and say, how did we
not close that game out? If you close out two
of them, guess what, you're in the playoffs just two.
So when I hear it's a long season, it's a

(04:44):
long Yeah, that'd a loss here and there. They're getting
beaten in Oakland or getting you know, hammered by a
team that's not supposed to beat you. Oh man, it's
a long season. Not that big of a deal. Well,
it is that big of a deal in in if
you don't make it in September. And to my knowledge,

(05:08):
two teams that got in had the tiebreaker correct bowl
all three with eighty seven wins correct.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
Or well, yeah, you have the same amount of wins
as the Tigers. It's just you getting swept up there
that hurts you.

Speaker 7 (05:21):
And how many games a for three? So I guess
one or two games does matter long the year, doesn't it.
So if they're just injuries, you could they won't make minis.
I mean, I know it's built in. Everybody has injuries.
The Dodgers can complain about injuries and it set them
back a little bit. This year as well, didn't keep
them out of the playoffs. But you start to look, Yes, injuries,

(05:41):
but you have to account for that every year. But
there was time an injury didn't matter when your players
that aren't injured, that are getting paid the money and
that are stars on your team did not come through
when necessary. Now you can decipher who those guys are.
And I think we know who those guys are. So
a hell of a year considering in truth, a hell

(06:03):
of a year considering that they had no business being
close anyway with all the injuries they had. But when
teams start to build in those excuses, I'm not saying
they do, but when any of us do, if that
excuse is built in, what happens is you start to
rely on the excuse and aren't there to close it out.
So a tiebreaker cost him a playoff appearance. So somewhere

(06:24):
along the line, So next year, when the season starts,
please don't tell me a three game series against Oakland
or Colorado in June or July does not matter, because
it does all the little things. Take care of your
business early and you get to rest late. Don't take
care of your business early and get injuries along the way,
when it gets late, you got to have help from

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somebody else, and somebody else, you know, whether it's Boston, Detroit, Cleveland,
all the teams that you were competing against either didn't
help you or they took care of their business. You
want to just compare the two. Not a soul on
the planet had the Cleveland Guardian doing what they did
this year. Nobody did. They're a resilient team. But guess

(07:05):
how you see how they played down the stretch. One
game did matter, got them in two games, one game
along the way tiebreakers, So whatever, it's a one hundred
and sixty two games, and I'll be damned it came
down to the final weekend of the season and they
didn't close it out.

Speaker 6 (07:23):
Twenty five and twenty eight in August and September was
the Astros record. Well, they were under five hundred from
July on this year.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
What's that tell?

Speaker 7 (07:35):
You start good, get a big lead, and quite frankly,
you could say what you want. It was a second
half meltdown. They did not play well enough. I know,
like I said, we can always qualify it with they
had a lot of injuries. But if we're going to
criticize all year, long and compliment all year long, and
then when the season's over not allowed to say, well,

(07:57):
they just didn't close out because they weren't good in
You can't say yeah, but if the I mean you
can if you want. If you want to building that
excuse for your self esteem and self worth and well
being and your identity, go ahead. But to my knowledge,
everybody that lined up this year is getting paid. To
my knowledge just a hunch, but I think if you're
a back upright fielder you came in from another team,

(08:19):
or your fromber Valdez, or your Jose Al Tuve or
your Carlos Korea or your Harry Hatchett ass I do
believe if you're on the roster, you get paid. Correct,
So your expectations are when you play, we expect you
to win. And this team's been great by not making
excuses when things haven't gone their way, and that resilient
grit and grind that they have has paid off in

(08:40):
the past. The problem is resilience, grit and grind. As
I spoke with Dana Browners, I said, resilience, GrITT and
grind is fine, but it does have to come with
results too at some point, and he is exactly right
where that resilience and that grind is what gets results,
which should tell you this team at the plate just

(09:02):
was not good enough to make the playoffs or clutch enough.
Not the past, not next year. This year, they just weren't.
They were a sometimer. Sometimes they're good and sometimes they're
really awful, and they're sometimes in between. There's a stimer.
The pitching was pretty damn good most of the year,

(09:23):
it was, I gotta tell you. And you know fromber
his last start, which is for him going into this offseason,
I'm sure he's good. He had a hell of a
last start, but he did not pull his weight down
the stretch either. So if we're just but they did
some phenomenal things, Cam Smith will turn out to be
a player.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
We know that.

Speaker 7 (09:45):
I mean, you start to go things to look forward to.
There's a lot, man, but things that prevented them. It's
a clutch play here. There six or eight games along
the year you look back and say, we had no
business losing that game. There was more no business losing
that games than there was Wow, can you believe what
we just did at the end. And when that happens,

(10:06):
you're relying on other people for help and you don't
take care of your business. It comes down to the
last weekend of the series and unfortunately you lost a
chance to go to the playoffs. In Sacramento and in Anaheim.
Are either one of those two teams in the playoffs, No,
they're not.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Okay, so uplifting.

Speaker 7 (10:28):
I'm a glass half full guy, as you well know,
but I'm also a truth teller, and the truth serum
is average at the plate for the most part. Individuals
had some good seasons. Jake Myers deserves it. He had
a hell of a year. That's a play considering what
he's done. So you start to look at some of
the strides they made, but overall the sum they were
just a very subpar team at the plate, especially in clutch,

(10:52):
and there were teams who were better, and quite frankly,
they didn't deserve to make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
They didn't earn it.

Speaker 7 (10:58):
Now, when you get in, who knows what's gonna happened
or this team got this team? They didn't deserve it.
Injuries are not you can't account for that, and it happens,
and you know what, who knew that Jordan was going
to get hurt again?

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Who knew I think he played forty six games this.

Speaker 7 (11:14):
Year's exactly right, and that's about one hundred and about
one hundred too shy of what we need. One hundred
and forty one hundred and forty five games would have
been great, but just wasn't there, and they proved that
they were not good enough at the plate to overcome
him and other losses. But resilient, damn right. That's a

(11:34):
lot of injuries to have to manage and get through.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
It really is.

Speaker 7 (11:37):
So I give him a major high five for it,
and I quite frankly am shocked that they were even
in it the last week end of the season, considering
all the injuries. But the fact that they're in it,
then you've got to rely on those veterans that are
playing to come through, and they didn't. Can't close it
out on a Friday night on a team you're supposed

(11:58):
to beat. That's a problem. And the rest of the
teams took care of their business, and the Astros for
the first time in what feels like twenty five years,
but it hasn't been that long, are going to sit
home and watch the playoffs and maybe just maybe they
were tired as well. Who the hell knows, but everybody's tired.
Dodgers go to the playoffs every year. They're tired, Padres
are tired, Philly's tired. They're all tired. Bottom line is

(12:19):
that there's a few things they couldn't overcome, and we
saw it and we damn well know that. That's the
reason and the biggest detriment to their team this year
was their inability to drive the baseball outside of injuries
and hit in clutch situations. And the teams that are
in the playoffs did it better than them.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
Yeah, and this was a team too that the numbers
were pretty striking this year offensively for the reason why
you're not in the.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Post strikingly bummerish, Oh, yes, very much.

Speaker 6 (12:48):
So well, we'll dive into those because I mean, that's
very much I think the tale of why twenty twenty
five went the way it did. Also, Joe Aspata and
Dana Brown both gonna speak with the media tomorrow for
the end of your recaps, so we'll of course have
some of that, but it is a post mortem of
the twenty twenty five Astros season. You want to get

(13:09):
in seven one, three two one two five seven ninety
against someone three two one two five, seven ninety. So
we're just getting going here on a Monday edition of
The Sewn Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 8 (13:22):
Going non stop sha with former QB Sean Salisbury.

Speaker 7 (13:29):
If Lamar was and they were getting all their players
back this week, I'd be a little nerve wracked. Why
because you would be getting a team that's pissed and embarrassed.
Right you face the Kansas City offense. It's been very
subpar and they did anything they wanted. The last Buffalos
hammered them. You saw last week they got hammered. Their

(13:51):
defense has become soft now. A lot of that may
just be injuries, but they've had a lot of guys
that are banged up and it showed. And now with Lamar,
if you rest Tim now you may still be able
to go to beat the Texans in your building, but
they are. The Texans are getting them at the right time.
And with the win yesterday, the Texans got better. But
there's still some things they got to clean up.

Speaker 9 (14:11):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
They Tennessee's a bad football team.

Speaker 6 (14:13):
No, that was, And that's what I even said too
on Twitter, is that you know, yes it's a win,
but the only reason you wont is because Tennessee is
much worse than you are.

Speaker 7 (14:22):
That that Titans team yesterday. I don't know if they
won a game this year, they might say that. Well,
I'm between them and the Saints. I'm not sure if
either one of them is gonna win a game and they're.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Gonna be battle. They're both played for the first pick
of the draft.

Speaker 7 (14:34):
There there, I mean, aside from the fact they're not
real good offensively, very average defensively and special teams kicker
miss two which could have made it six to six,
and maybe the momentum is different for them in game,
but the Texans played better, but they still got protection problems.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Did you watch them?

Speaker 7 (14:50):
They can't block simple stuff, dude, It's an embarrassment. I
am so tired of talking about this. They they they
early in the game. I think it was in the
first quarter. Second quarter.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
They bring up just two guys. Chubb doesn't know who
to block.

Speaker 7 (15:03):
The right guard steps down, two guys run, They get
the left tackle half of the block. Two of them
don't even get away. I mean, their their protection schemes
and their inability to pick up simple stuff is humiliating
against Friday night football crap. It is I know they won,
will get into all the good stuff. You do that
against a team that pressures you. They Stroud almost spent

(15:24):
time in the damn hospital with some of the hits
he took. And he's got to get better at throwing
the damn ball away. One time he scrambled right, held it,
held it, held it, trying to play hero ball. Throw
the ball away, especially knowing the team you're on. You
can't afford loss series. He's gonna be a hell of
a player, and he's been a hell of a player.
And you see how he can deliver the ball. He
played good yesterday. When you finally do so, protections and

(15:45):
get the ball out on time. The touchdown to the
flat right now, another blitz that they came, he through
to the left flat early in the game, bam to
get a completion and get them going. Those are things
you gotta have. They're gonna have to get better.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Up Front.

Speaker 7 (16:00):
Defense is playoff defense, man. They continue to smother teams
and give you a chance to win. And they did win.
But I wouldn't get too caught up. We're back just yet.
I'd slow my roll a little bit on that, but
they they're protect I don't understand. Either they're really dumb
football IQ wise up front, and I know they're not,
but I'm just trying to deduct what is it. Either

(16:21):
they have zero clue how to process one ounce of
protection information, or they're either physically soft as a wet
paper towel, or they're not getting taught right. It's one
of the three or all of them. I'm not sure
what it is, but there's there's no way the simple
what's gonna happen when you got to run into complex stuff?

(16:43):
I just don't get it. Well, they got better. Tennessee blows.
So say whatever you want, Tennessee's awful. They're awful. You
beat a team that would have trouble winning on Saturdays.
Little hyperbolic, but you get my point. And so while
it's good, but the frustration I watched and say, yeah,
they did some good things, but you should be beating teams
like Tennessee by forty Tennessee's Tennessee is not even to

(17:06):
add they're a team that they are five players away
from being five players away.

Speaker 6 (17:12):
You were six nothing for much of the game, and
about the end of the third fourth quarter is when
you start to pull away. The way that you did,
but you even miss a field goal in there, so
it wasn't like the offense all of a sudden.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
I know people are talking about the game.

Speaker 7 (17:27):
That what he marks put together, he gave a steam,
but he is a bright spot and Chubb rand physical
and they should they run block pretty damn well, I'll
give him that. It's the pass protection, how to decipher
drives me nuts and what he marks. As we said
going in on Friday, the guy needs to touch the
ball more. He's a threat with the ball in the
open field. He's good in the past in the receiving game.

(17:48):
He's got touch the ballmore. I'm going to tell you
right now. By the end of the season he will
continue to get I mean, as it goes on, Well,
Nick Chubb's going to get the majority of you know,
pounding the ball inside. You're going to continue to expand
this offense. If you don't, then you're an idiot.

Speaker 6 (18:00):
Well, I'm span the offense with what he mark, and
he showed you yesterday what he could do when the
ball's in his hands. And I think that probably a
lot of people are gonna be calling for him to
be the number one running back right now.

Speaker 7 (18:11):
Not time yet, but it'll happen eventually. You just got
to say the ball ain't heavy. Put him in, especially
if he expands his ability to pick up protections and
understand what's going on in the in the protection game
as a running back. But there's still a lot to do.
I'll take a win anyway I can get it. We
all will, but I would temper my, oh my gosh,

(18:34):
we're back stuff.

Speaker 6 (18:35):
Okay, seventeen carries, sixty nine yards and a touchdown out
of Mark's I mean stroud not bad twenty two.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Or twenty eight.

Speaker 7 (18:43):
He was really he looked like when he'd set his
feet and threw on time, I mean, and he didn't.
And now he still missed a few throws but held
the ball too long on a sacker, you know, and
a couple pressures. But I know he's trying to make plays.
But you know he gets out the ball quick for
a touchdown. He did a nice job, like I said,
throwing one to the left bowl, put his foot in
the ground, didn't wait for a guy down the field,

(19:04):
hit the guy wide, opening the flat, those little things
and what eight and a half yards in attempt. So
they did some good things and they what a novel concept.
Get targets to Nico Collins early, even if you miss
a few, get him to him early. So it was
a solid game for Stroud. There's still things to develop,
There's no doubt there's some good things, but the overall,

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the overall, there's still so much needs to be done
against a good team. And if you were facing a
loaded Ravens team, you would have you sure as hell
would have had to be a lot better than you
were yesterday and have been during the season. But listen,
wins are hard to come by. I saw some things.
The run game was impressive to me yesterday. I liked it,
and then they did a great job of complimenting it

(19:47):
with some passes and got into the end zone and
took care of their business. But you still there's still
some elements to that team missing that they're going to
have to fix, and hopefully they will.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
No wine yet in the Ravens game.

Speaker 6 (20:03):
I know that Lamar was going to get you know,
more imaging and more testing today on the hamstring. But
I mean, if it's Cooper Rush and a handful of injuries,
you finally have a chance to go to Baltimore get
a win.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
I don't think they ever have.

Speaker 7 (20:16):
Yeah, but I will tell you this, Cooper Rush isn't stupid.
He's a I mean, he's been pretty solid as a
backup in the league, and guys like that can come
in and we see it around the league. The Giants
got smart and finally played the guy they should have
played coming out of preseason. Could Jackson Darts double the
talent right now? The Russ Wilson is. You saw the
energy change all the way around. Brian Dable hugged him

(20:38):
at the end of the game, like, thanks for saving
my job. Well, if you didn't get to stay, if
you'd done in a handful of weeks ago, you may
have won one or two more. Now they're gonna be
Molik neighbors out. But the energy that Jackson Dart brought,
and you know, Cooper Rush has been in the league
long enough now to understand just be smart, make good decisions,
and you know what, maybe ball comes out on time.
We were so used to Lamar making a million plays

(21:00):
with his legs in his arm that sometimes just a
little change up to give him some time off. I
wouldn't go in there thinking backup quarterback this will be
no problem because Baltimore has got some pride too, and
they've been humiliated early in the season, and everybody around
the league is talking about what a soft team they
are this year, and they don't want.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
To hear that.

Speaker 6 (21:17):
Well, they're in the same spot that you are, too,
of one win, so they don't want to fall to
one in four. You don't want to fall Yeah, yeah,
very much. So that's not going to be an easy task,
no doubt about it. Ronnie wants to weigh and we'll
get you involved. You want to join them, someone three two, one, two, five,
seven ninety. Those offensive numbers this year for the Stros,

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they ain't good, but we'll share them with you here
as we are getting going here on a Monday edition
of The Shawn Salisbury Show Sports Talk at seven ninety.
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(22:01):
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Speaker 2 (22:06):
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Speaker 10 (22:07):
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Speaker 6 (22:08):
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Speaker 2 (22:18):
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(23:22):
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(23:59):
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offensive futility of this team this year. Well, Sean, the

(24:28):
numbers would show you that this team was twenty first
in runs this year. Home runs they were middle of
the pack, even a little lower in the middle of
the pack seventeenth twenty sixth, and walks twenty fourth and
strikeouts thirteenth, in average on base percentage sixteenth, slugging eighteenth,
that's right there with the home runs ops fifteenth, runners

(24:52):
in scoring position twenty third. So what did you do
well this year would be the question for the offense,
and those numbers right there, Sean show you they didn't
do anything well. At best, they were average, and that's
at best. They were average to pour this season across
the board offensively, and you're twelve games over five hundred,

(25:14):
but you're missing out on the postseason. Why are you
missing out in the postseason? I think those numbers just
told you everything you need to know right there.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Obvious.

Speaker 11 (25:21):
Right.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
You always say, well, aren't.

Speaker 7 (25:24):
They an analytics team? That's a huge part of the
most part. Aren't they Aren't they a team that lives
on analytics. And they're not gonna argue with that. They
know you know, and I know that well. Injuries, Like
I said, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna qualify that anymore.
We know about the injuries. I'm not saying they're making
an excuses. I'm not making it either unfortunate. You still
got a line up and play you pay one hundred
and sixty two of them, whether you're hurt or not.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
Well, I mean, yeah, you still had jose L Twovay
in the lineup. You still had Carlos.

Speaker 7 (25:48):
Korea on the line out, Christian Walker, right, you got her,
that's right for the most part.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
Not swinging it, did you see you on Friday night?
Not a single one of the three balls that he
swung at that at bat.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
There was his third app bat of the game.

Speaker 6 (26:02):
After he hit the two doubles, every single one of
them was about a foot outside there.

Speaker 7 (26:07):
You know what, there's not a lot of middle ground
with him. He's either going pretty good or it's non
competitive on just on some of his swings, or non
competitive balls that he's going after, right pitches that he's
going after the strikes on. But they I mean, as
a team that is heavy analytics, that's evidence. You just

(26:27):
read the evidence. It's a no brainer. Injuries, yes, but
even more so, and you could probably even dive deeper
like they do now with every single category that I
don't even know how you get to certain statistics with
all the you know, it's like most people don't even
know how to get the QBR still, I mean all
the stuff to go. It's the same thing with all
these wins above replacement.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
I know how to get to that. You know my point.
There's statistic for everything.

Speaker 7 (26:50):
So if you're just going by on the pure analytics,
those numbers right there will tell you exactly all you
need to know. Matter of fact, those numbers that ought
to tell you just how good the pitching was at times,
because with those numbers you shouldn't even be in competitive
for the most part in a playoff race, but the
pitching kept you in it most of the time. And
the hitting. How many times this year did the hitting
carry the pitching for an extended amount of time.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
I mean it's spurts, if even. But was there ever
a ten games stretch maybe maybe in June?

Speaker 7 (27:21):
Yeah, but off and on I'm talking about where they
went on and you're like, this team's raking men.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
No, it was. It was just once in a while.

Speaker 7 (27:29):
Like I said, there are sometimes team this year at
the plate, sometimes they were good and sometimes they're not.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Quite frankly, a lot of times they weren't.

Speaker 7 (27:37):
They were sometimes good and sometimes average, but a lot
of times they weren't clutch enough to get done what
they needed to get done. The numbers you just you
just read, just validate what we saw with the naked eye.
So if you're going on feel and analytics, the feel
with your naked eye that you saw this year is
exactly what the analytics will tell you. They were not
good at the plate scoring four or more runs this year.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
Year They were sixty four in fifteen, scoring three or
fewer twenty three in sixty.

Speaker 7 (28:07):
And that that's a lot of scoring three and fewer.
That's a lot of pressure on a pitching staff. What
six times this year it was like I said, kudos
to them for be this isn't to me. There's no
moral victory Monday. I don't believe in them. And but
the only the moral victory part of this is that

(28:27):
they I don't want to say they. When people say
they competed, you're supposed to compete. The guy who's the
backup to the guy who got hurt wants to prove
that he's worthy of a job. So that, oh, they
gave a lot of effort. You're supposed to. I mean,
that's that's why you get paid. So again, I'm never
giving anybody credit for effort, but.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I love it. I worked really hard.

Speaker 7 (28:48):
Ye, Well, so the other guy that won ninety games
that you won eighty seven. Okay, so they worked hard
and executed better than you did. So yeah, the oh man,
they played hard. Have you ever noticed normally when they
said he played hard, it's in a loss, not the
asters I'm talking about in football or anything.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
My guys they played hard today. There's always about after it.
But we didn't win.

Speaker 7 (29:09):
So so that I'm assuming the team that beach. It
played hard, but actually executed it a little bit better
than you did. So listen, we can go through all
the things we want. Injuries, poor performance at the plate
for the majority of the season, pitching carrying them, and
for two straight years now, hitting has been a thorn
in their side, with runners in scoring position and at

(29:30):
the right time, hitting at the right time, not just hitting,
hitting at the right time, and they didn't do enough
of it this year. If you're really trying to make
it as simple as we can, that's about as simple
as against And they get to watch the playoffs for
the first time.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
So what year did you say? Twenty sixteen years?

Speaker 7 (29:46):
So you're talking damn near decade of this a decade
and it happens now. The key is get to work
on making sure it doesn't happen again.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
That is the goal for sure.

Speaker 6 (29:57):
And I'm sure the charge for Dana Brown and the
front all fists and also for Joe A spot of
next year, Ronnie will get you in. You want to
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But the Shawn Salisbury Show continues to no now, you know.

Speaker 7 (32:36):
And sometimes you go in there and send out to
Oregon State. Oregon States had some good programs in the past.
That's a tough place at times if you're not prepared
for it. But they were prepared, went in, took care
of their business late and this will be a real
test this coming week.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
They kind of slept walk through the first and three
quarters of the game, and then in the fourth quarter
that's when Connor Wegman and and crew really turned it
on and them able to win that game. And I
mean huge part of it was because Oregon State just
couldn't snap a football for a fueld goal.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I mean it was it was something as simple.

Speaker 7 (33:04):
As almost hard watch, wasn't it really, Even if you're
a fan of the team, the local team, it's a
hard watch. You're saying, how in the world does this
not get done right? And Connor Wegman going, you know,
from Bridgeland and going to A and M and getting
banged up and hurt and not turning out the way
it wanted to and then transferring too University Houston. What
a what a what a upgrade, and what a good

(33:25):
get he is because he is a really good player.
It's got to be awesome for him to be playing
at home, not far from the house and starting off four.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Oh it's good.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
Well, I mean they're at least capable offensively, which last
year they were not.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
I think they were like fifth from the worst.

Speaker 7 (33:40):
In all they're more than capable. Now, I got news
for you. He's a good player. It definitely helps for sure.
So yep, Coug's off to a good start. September was
kind to them. Hopefully October will be the scene. But
we're talking Astros right now. It's someone three two one,
two five seven ninety. Ronnie wants to get us started
on the phone lines this morning. Good morning, Ronnie, Good
morning guys. I'm just sort of give my epitaph for

(34:02):
the Astros. I'm disappointed, but not disheartened. I think this
team and the people who run this team have the
ability to make things happen. But what I saw happening
with the Astros this year happened with a lot of
teams in the league and a lot of hitters and pitchers.

(34:23):
I mean, there are more pitchers injured this year in
all of baseball than any year I can remember. I'm
probably going to pay more attention to the health reports
in the offseason than I will be the free agent
and trade reports. I don't understand why hitters and teams
can't adjust to what pitchers are doing. And I think

(34:46):
the pitchers overall right now are ahead of the hitters.
You've got hitters that are doing well, you know, with
the guys that hit fifty home runs and all that.
But I just don't understand what's going on. The Astros
are striking out more than they ever did, and they
still have some of the same players who didn't strike
out five, six, seven years ago. So I don't know

(35:07):
what to do about all of that. You know, how
they can figure out who to trade and who not
to trade.

Speaker 12 (35:16):
I don't think they need to make wholesale major trages
unless they can't get any of their pictures back. Then
they'll have to figure out what to do. And I
have a prediction, not a prediction, but I hope for
the World Series because I love to stick it to
the national media. The two teams I want to see
in the World Series are the Reds and the Guardians.

(35:41):
And that way, the guys who love New York and
LA and Philly and all that, you know that they'll
be so totally disappointed. But I would love to see
the Reds and the end of Guards in the World Series.

Speaker 7 (35:53):
There I go appreciate it, Ronnie, that would be awesome.
It would be great. The state of Ohio would love that. Now,
going to the ratings would be the lowest in baseball history.
Not saying that those teams aren't good, I mean, Boyce,
Cincinnati was celebrated their ass off of the Mets once again.
And by the way, Pete a. Lonzo says he's going
to be a free agent. He's going to be He's
finally gonna move on, and good on. He wants to.

(36:14):
He actually wants to have a chance to win a
World Series. Good for him. But yeah, that would be
great Cincinnati's season and doing what they did.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
And who's the manager of that team. A guy named
Tito Francona. Yeah, and Ron.

Speaker 7 (36:26):
Harrison, but he only wants to play against his former team.
We saw Bruce Bochi do it We've seen it happen before.
Come in and make a difference. Frank Cone is a
Hall of Famer, Say say what you want as a manager.
And then you get the Cleveland Guardians, who they're Guy
Ramirez and that team. Just keep everybody else, got all
these stars that leave and go, just keeps on plugging
men and look at them.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
I personally don't care who's in in the National League.

Speaker 7 (36:49):
I guess maybe it would be great to see, you know,
somebody you love, but I you know where I'm leading
in the American League, Okay, because they did get it
and a long time obviously since I was a child,
the Boston Red Sox and they open against the Yankees,
I'd love to see him go take two straight and
send the Yankees home quick and get damn Yeah, Jerry
Francona against his old team, that'd be okay. I mean,

(37:11):
you don't have to play Bitch Morgan in that group,
so maybe a little bit different Red Machine, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
That's right.

Speaker 7 (37:17):
So maybe and you don't have Bernie Carboll or Carlton
Fists or Jim Rice or Freddie Lynn, so maybe, uh
maybe you get to that.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
It'd be fun.

Speaker 7 (37:24):
But now I obviously am pulling for the Red Sox.
But I get Ronnie's uh, I get Ronnie's energy about
Cincinnati and Cleveland. It'd be nice to just shut both
coasts up and say, is it in the state of Ohio.
Would be, well, you got the number one team in
America and college football right now? Right there's still one
with the with there with a convincing as they did,
a convincing win at Washington, and then you know, then

(37:47):
you you take care of your business.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (37:49):
In baseball, it'd be it'd be fun for the state.
So we'll see what happened.

Speaker 6 (37:52):
Yeah, And I mean it's gonna be a postseason that
doesn't include the Astros. So I know there's a lot
of people out there who say now, man fully in
the football now, and there is a lot of football
to get into. And we will talk some football here,
but I mean for the shows just the day after
and then, like I said, tomorrow, Joe Aspota and Dana
Brown gonna meet with the media. And I mean, you

(38:14):
know Ronnie was saying no wholesale changes. Oh, I'm not
taking that, and you better believe that. Jim Crane looking
at the financials for this season, says Hm missed out
on at least a couple more times that I could
have sold some more beers and merch and everything else
inside the building over there, and for the first time
in over ten years, I don't have that. Yeah, we

(38:36):
need to make sure that we get back to that,
because well, it's a lot more fun around here when
we do.

Speaker 7 (38:42):
I know, Ronnie and people don't want wholesale changes. I
don't know what we would consider wholesale changes. Not signing
fromber that's probably gonna He's more than likely going to
be pitching somewhere else. You're gonna have to look at,
you know, money you've invested into players that underperformed for you,
and see if you like, well, let's run it back
because we think they're better than they. I mean, there's

(39:03):
gonna be a lot to look at. I I think
that it's going to look when you say quite a
bit different, I think it's going to look different.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
I do. I think it's going to look different.

Speaker 7 (39:14):
But in truth, you get all your pitching back and
you get a healthy Jordan Alvarez a full season with Korea,
paradis back Cam Smith in year two. A couple of
these young guys get more work a bullpen. That's that's strong.
I mean, so I guess I guess if you consider
what what well, what will they do at first base?

(39:37):
What will they do with that pitching staff at the
front with from Bravaldez. So I guess those wouldn't be
wholesale changes, but that'd be two pretty big positions that
they're that they're trying to fill. But the biggest one
is obviously what are they going to fromber and getting
healthy this offseason to make sure that you are not
undermanned when you go to spring training, let alone most
of the season with injuries. Injuries the one thing you

(39:58):
can't control. Let's hope that's luck goes the other way
with them and they have a fairly injury free season
next year.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
I guess you could say this is going to be
the most consequential offseason that Dana Brown has had.

Speaker 7 (40:09):
Oh yeah, as the GM. And its consequential because no
playoffs this time. So what do you do coming out
of a out of it? I mean, you got a
lot to build on because of the way you hung
in there, But again, they're not going to look at it,
and I don't either as a moral victory because you
played well when you were hurt. That just adds to
the fact that you were in position that the depth
of it that your young players and guys that weren't

(40:30):
supposed to help did at times. Guys that weren't even
part of this team when the season started came in
and did some good things for him. But getting fully
healthy and making sure the offseason commitment is to excellent,
so you're ready to go, and there's no questions. I
don't know if Lance McCullers is going to be pitching
here anymore. We'll see that as well. So whatever you
consider wholesale changes what that number looks like. How many

(40:51):
guys got to go, But the main part of their
roster is pretty friggin good if they're healthy.

Speaker 6 (40:57):
And we'll talk about it here as we get into
the set the clock hour, you want to join up
talk some strows. I mean, pretty much after today it's
you know, things come across then we'll bring them up.
But I mean we're fully football pretty much after this.
I mean, you know, just because what is there to
talk about at a certain point other than when moves
are made or you know, anything else that that happens.

Speaker 7 (41:20):
We'll talk, you know, talk playoffs and over, just like
we would anything else that's going on out of state.
But quite frankly, it's time then the Texans and the
other stuff does deserve more time, absolutely for sure do.
And the Rockets, it's time they're gonna get about that.
That time's coming sooner than you you're gonna blink. And
it's time for the for hockey and starts camp, damn right. So,

(41:40):
and how they're going to overcome the loss of their point.

Speaker 6 (41:42):
Guard, now, now that's that's definitely something we got to
talk about too. But you want to join in someone
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Speaker 6 (44:43):
Finished the season eighty seven and seventy five. Tiebreaker goes
to the Detroit Tigers. That's why a J. Hinches club
is moving on to the wildcard round and the Strows
start the off.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Season a little earlier.

Speaker 6 (44:55):
Texans finally get their first win though, twenty six to
nothing over the Titans at nrg ST. The Ravens next
in Baltimore next Sunday, and Europe wins the Ryder Cup
over the US fifteen to thirteen. And boy, they weren't
getting cheated, were they. With their celebrations. They're they're doing
pretty much every single European soccer chant, like one of

(45:17):
them is a chant that opposing fan bases and soccer
fan bases will use are you watching?

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Are you watching? And their's was are you watching? Donald Trump?

Speaker 7 (45:29):
They should have got fired up and they deserved it.
I watched and when I say, I did not missed
one shot whatever they showed on NBC. Yeah, and on
the golf I watched on USA Network and NBC watched.
My obsession with this is is at a hand. No,

(45:49):
that's it is with golf and with with the Ryder Cup.
Congratulations to them. First off, for the most part, golf
fans are really good Friday and Saturday. The select handful
should be ashamed of themselves, heckling and throwing stuff at
McElroy's what listen, McElroy's an easy target because he's got
rabbit ears. But every time you do it, then he

(46:10):
stiffs one to two feet. It didn't help, a matter
of fact, it made them better.

Speaker 6 (46:14):
Well, I mean, and it's also if you play golf
and you're around it, it's not football, it's not baseball,
it's not any of these things.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Golf selled to a higher standard.

Speaker 6 (46:24):
It is and it should be. But like it's also too.
I mean, where he finally reacted was because he was
about to take his club back for a shot and
people are still.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Heck, I would too. I don't blame him.

Speaker 7 (46:36):
Listen, I know they're say, oh, he's soft and you
got to be tougher. SnO, because not in that sport. Yes,
cheer is loud. And he made a good point. He said, Man,
I'm sitting here, you know they're saying all the stuff
to me instead of rooting on Scotty and when you
got Justin Thomas and Scottie shuffer, just tone it down
your own players. So the guy can stand over ball,
because you're not going to get that.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
In Ireland. They're not going to get.

Speaker 7 (46:58):
Even and in two years they are going to just
they're they under soccer who will get you right, You're
not gonna get it this ain't the Premier League. Okay,
you're not world cupping it. They're gonna They're gonna allow
you to pull the club back and swing. Listen, I
love energy. This ain't a Bros tournament. Or you got
a shirt untucked? Where you got your shirt untucked?

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Two sides? Is too big? Hat turned backwards? That's not
what this is.

Speaker 7 (47:22):
Most of the fans of New York get it, passionate fans,
but there's always a handful, and they're always louder. The
ten percent is always louder than the ninety percent that
are trying to watch golf and cheer when it's right
in between shots. Yell as loud as you want. That
doesn't mean yell if you Rory, you know the word.
There's a time and a.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Place and then whoever?

Speaker 7 (47:41):
Now about how about him turning around back like the
one before they teed off in a practice round. The
guy says, you don't need a collar? What a button
up collar to show you don't need to button the
top button to choke, and Rory and Lowry looked over
and said that was a good one. That's funny. But
when the guy's addressing the golf ball on either side,
you just don't yell in his backswing. We could do
you just don't do it. Well, that's soft. Well you're

(48:02):
not playing in the Ryder Cup.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
I listen.

Speaker 7 (48:05):
I play with guys that if you if if you're
in the back moving, uh, could you not move when
I'm showing to just shut up that part when we're
playing buddy golf. But this isn't bro hat turned backwards
where you got the you know, the the boobs on
your golf shirt. You know those things that we see right,
which are fun once in a while. I love all
the golf were but this isn't that drinking and throwing

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stuff at a wife of a Ryder cupper A stop it,
just stop it.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Most of them are good.

Speaker 7 (48:32):
But the problem is that the few percent that do
it give the rest a bad name. And as Shane
Lory said, he said, I've never heard anything like the
way they were talking to him and his wife. And
you can't do it, and so it gives it a
bad name.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
You know what it is.

Speaker 7 (48:45):
It's a disgraceful embarrassment. That being said, for the most part,
the fans of New York were great. The course was
set up too easy. I love Kegan Bradley. He admitted
it was a mistake and they didn't play to their strengths. Now,
all that being said, as much as Roy McElroy rabbit
eared and and you know, get sensitive, but he did.
They all deserve the right when they address the ball

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for you to shut up in between cheer your guys
on up and down.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Like you saw on Sunday.

Speaker 7 (49:11):
Sunday was a better now, a little bit of it,
But Sunday you shouldn't have to have police officers come
and line up the fairways so a guy can draw
his club back and hit. I was listen, I could,
I was like felt the emotion of the us sitting there.
I'm sure a lot of people did. I for me,
just let him play golf and then cheer as loud
as you want, and I think the Americans would echo

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that centiment. For the most part, they were good. I'm
gonna tell you I have never seen shift in two
in one to another like I saw Friday and Saturday
was the greatest display of putting and iron shots and
the way they hit the ball to a green that
you will ever see in a team event. And from
one to twelve, I'm telling you right now I'm not

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sure there's a better Ryder Cup team ever than what
the Europeans throughout there too is winning on the roads
tough and then Sunday to the US. Now, I like, again,
I'm not doing moral victories, but it would have been easy.
Down seven and thinking and then you saw early on
there was like four leaders in the blue and then
all of a sudden they kept chipping away and chipping

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away and Deshambo's down five after seven and to get
a half a point unfriggin believable with the way he
came back, and then the way hel Cameron Young is
going to watch his career catapult one late in the season.
Was a late pick on the Ryder Cup team. They
put him on and he performed at his home state
like a chase. He was off the end and you

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give me JJ Spond anytime. That dude will hit a
two hundred and seventy five yard three wood to four feet.
The guy's a phenomena. Our young players got, we got
a future there, but at the displayed that the mean
we just couldn't put on Friday and Saturday I've never seen.
I mean, when your best player in the world that
in single and he won the point on He still
didn't play his best on Sunday, but they were exhausted
and I don't blame him that that's but the way

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Scheffler won't miss eighty percent of those puts he missed,
he'll make with his eyes closed.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
But they just couldn't. They couldn't do it. And then
Europe got a.

Speaker 7 (51:10):
Taste of it on Sunday where they're knocking down putts
and Justin Thomas and Cam Young the Friday and Saturday
displayed that the Europeans put on You'll never see a
better display golf in your life. The Sunday grind and
the Sunday guts that the US showed. It's not a
moral victory, but the guts they showed when it wouldn't
been easy to say we got no shot and literally

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having a chance. I hate the rule, but the rules
there so we can't bitch about it. I just don't
understand how if a guy had If that's the case,
then you got it. We should have an alternate travel
with the Ryder Cup team. That the only way he
plays if medically you can prove that the guy can't
play and he has to play. Because Harris English deserve
to play as a twelfth guy and to get half

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a point when your guy's the reason he missed. It
should have been a full point for the US and
move on. But the rule says not. The rule bugs me.
It's not what they did. It's nobody's fault. The rule
bugs me. And Keegan Bradley did a nice job, made
some mistakes. I would never have run Colin marcaw out
the second day. Colin Markal was fortunate to get in.
He's a hell of a player. He had an awful

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twenty twenty five caddies six times he couldn't make a
putt either. Made a few on Sunday to hang in
there and got a half a point. But they ran
it back again on Saturday and they got boat raced
two times in a row, and that Keegan made that
mistake and they didn't set up the course. Other than that,
it sounds like he was phenomenal. And I love him
because his energy reminds me, and his grind and his
irritation and reminds me of Paul Aisinger. And they will

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cut your heart out to beat you. And I've never
seen a better Ryder Cup captain than Luke Donald to
the point where they changed shampoo, brought sheets, pillowcases. Everything
they did was to make sure you felt like you
were at home. Little details. See, for us, when we lose,
it feels like, man, it's in our gut and it
hurts to those guys that's in their soul. That doesn't

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mean that one doesn't give. It doesn't mean that they
don't care. The US cares immensely. I think we'll get
over it quicker than they will. You watch now, after
what happened yesterday, the Europeans, even in winning, are going
to be so bothered by the fact that they got
They won one match. They got their ass destroyed on Sunday,

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and you can tell during Paul mcginley's broadcast that we
don't just want to take the cutback. We need to
get to fourteen and a half. And then you post
press conference, he was talking on the set with Brandal
Shamblee and they were talking about it. I'm telling you
he said, yeah, it was great, but we got some
stuff we got to fix. To the point was they're
going to be disappointed that they didn't finish the curb stop.

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It's just different. It doesn't mean one's better than the other,
but one to twelve. They were just better on Friday
and Saturday. I mean from lud vig oldbrig it didn't
matter every single.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
One you hit a shot.

Speaker 7 (53:51):
Tommy Fleetwood hits at the one foot, you make a
putt from thirty, he makes one from forty. They were phenomenal.
And on Sunday our guys were outrageously good, and kudos
to them for putting themselves in a position to have
a chance to win and a rather gonna consistent great
player third in the world looking I mean Russell Russell

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Hanley just couldn't make that put even then it would
have been half a point. They deserve to win because
of Friday and Saturday, two great captains. Luke Donald's phenomenal.
You will never see better golf in your life than
you saw Friday and Saturday. And you'll never see probably
better golf than you saw from some of our players.
To have to do what they did under the circumstances
on Sunday, it got to the point where Luke Donald

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was about to choke on his own spit and not
choke factor, but like, I can't, he even said, he goes.
It got to a point where it was no longer
comfortable from me. They got nervous, and it was a
phenomenal watch going in. I'm exhausted and I didn't play around,
but we just couldn't make putts. But it was it
was something to behold to watch both of them do

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their thing. Do they do stuff that you and I
can't do if the ball was in our hand standing
on the green. You know what I'm saying, right, I
mean they're hitting shots from places like John Rahm over
the weekend, hitting a shot from the tall stuff.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
I think it was the Gorse.

Speaker 7 (55:11):
Uh yeah, hit this from the tall stuff and sticking
and stiff in it and then making putt stage just
and they should celebrate and they know how to party
and they ain't going to get cheated.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
And they shouldn't. No, they definitely didn't.

Speaker 6 (55:22):
If you've seen all the videos from the post match celebrations,
they definitely were let you know, oh yeah we won.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
And we should we we one thing.

Speaker 7 (55:31):
The ten percent of the low lives that do what
they do on the golf course that just don't get
it think it's funny.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Hey did you hear me? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (55:37):
I yelled, I yelled in the guy's backs. When you're
told his wife to f off and through stuff that's
not funny. You're a dumb ass, okay, and it doesn't
do any good. You never want to come out of
this going back where the home country that were criticized.
It shouldn't just have been you got beat as opposed
to got beat. And also ten percent of the fans
that were there don't know a squad about golf and
what their cheer for and think that it's bro golf.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
It's not golf. It's called the Ryder Cup.

Speaker 7 (56:01):
Thanks, save your bro golf for your muti on the
weekend that your buddy got on and you could turn
your hat backwards and untucked and drink forty seven beers,
which we all like to do. We all love bro golf, sure,
but not at the Ryder Cup. They embarrass themselves. At
ten percent of them that did do it wrong. Well,
it is takeout time and a decision was made. Some
people are about it and some or not. We'll discuss

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that here.

Speaker 6 (56:24):
It is the Sean Salisbury Show on a Monday Sports
Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Let's go, this is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

Speaker 6 (56:40):
The Salisbury's takeout, Salisbury Takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
It is Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (57:07):
Sports Sox seven to ninety Stros season is over. They
won yesterday six to two over the Angels in Anaheim.
Finished the year off eighty seven and seventy five. Texans
finally get their first win of the season twenty six
to nothing over the Titans at NRG Stadium. They're gonna
get the Ravens Sunday in Baltimore, and Europe wins the

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Ryder Cup fifteen thirteen over the US at Bethpage Black.
But over the weekend, as I mentioned, Sean, a decision
was made and last night you're watching Sunday Night Football.
It started to come out on social media and then
they announced it on NBC. It's part of the halftime
for Sunday Night Football. Bad Bunny is your Super Bowl

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halftime performer this year. There were reports out there that
apparently there were discussions with Taylor Swift to possibly do it,
but then the fizzled. There was initially discussions for Adele
to be it, but then obviously you see where that went.
So Bad Bunny your performer this year. I mean, I

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think obviously very talented, very popular, but.

Speaker 7 (58:17):
Energetic that too. I don't know how I feel about
it yet. I mean sometimes I'm pretty listen. As great
as Dell's voice is, that isn't that? That's not what
I wanted to well.

Speaker 6 (58:28):
I mean like here we had Lady Gaga when when
the super Bowl was here, Lady Gaga was a performer. Yes,
So I mean that's that's the other thing is too,
is have somebody that's gonna put on a show a
couple of years ago, Usher, I.

Speaker 7 (58:39):
Mean, you don't want somebody who's gonna sit in a
chair and just sing. Okay, you gotta you know the
timber Lakes all those they dance around and sing and
like you said, Usher, people who get after it. Bad
Bunny's entertaining, and I don't. I don't know how that's
gonna play because there'll be a lot of people, old
school people that have no idea who Bad Bunny is.

Speaker 6 (58:56):
If I'm not mistaken too, I think he did a
song with Metallica because there's people who were holding out
hope that Metallica was going to possibly be I think
they'll be involved one way or another.

Speaker 7 (59:08):
Just the Bay Area, all that kind of stuff, that's yeah,
because it's in San Jose next year, right.

Speaker 8 (59:14):
And so?

Speaker 7 (59:15):
Or should I say and this year at the end
of let's say it is next year because it's in February.
So I don't know how I feel they'll be. I'm
willing to give it a shot, be prepared for some
costumes and some some look changes and stuff. But you know,
the halftime shows to me about great energy and uplifting.
If you know going in that you want to stay
for the halftime show and tune in instead of get

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up and go to the refrigerator and get a beer
and be engaged in conversation about the game. I'm not
sure how I feel. I do like I mean, I'm
entertained by bad Bunny. I just don't know how it's
gonna look at a halftime Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
But we'll see. Normally you'll go and saying yes, I
like it. No, I don't. Now listen.

Speaker 7 (59:53):
Adele's got a great voice. I understand the Taylor Swift love.
They would have this ratings would have gone up because
every three year old to one hundred and twenty year
old somehow would have watched because well, it's Taylor Swift
and she moves the needle. But whether you like her
music or not, but she does move the needle. And
the Kansas City Chiefs aren't going to be in that
game this year, I don't think. But maybe they are

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after what I saw yesterday. They looked like something offensively
finally yesterday. But yeah, I'm not sure how I feel
about the Bad Bunny thing. I'm tempted to say I
think it's worth giving him a shot. But if you're
not into that type of music or that type of energy,
then you're probably going to be complaining about it all.

Speaker 9 (01:00:35):
The way up.

Speaker 7 (01:00:36):
I'm gonna I'll give anybody a shot until they proved
to me they can't entertain. I feel like there's certain
criteria though.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Because is he from that Are they from that area?

Speaker 7 (01:00:43):
No, he's from Puerto Rico. Oh he is, that's his
home country. Yeah, okay, gotcha. So maybe Carlo's Kre will
be there. Maybe he will, Maybe he'll be baby, maybe
he'll be one of the pips. Like last night, right
dancer to the back. Hey, what's Carlo's Korea.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Doing up there on stage? He's from Puerto Rico, so
you know.

Speaker 7 (01:01:00):
Always want to part it what kind of you know,
like what kind of light show. What's it going to
look like? So, I mean, I don't you know it's
gonna be a different super Bowl because anybody's been to
a Super Bowl San Francisco. San Francisco's changed a little
bit over the last half full of years as far
as from a charming city to a city that you've
got to be careful when you walk down the streets now.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
But yeah, yeah, I just it's put it this way.

Speaker 7 (01:01:22):
You're not going to Vegas, you're not going to New York,
you're not going to Miami, you're not going to New Orleans.
With this super Bowl, it will be different. It will
be different, and you're removed from that. If you're looking
for action in downtown San Francisco, well then you're gonna
have to drive.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
From San Jose. So's gonna say it's about an hour
away like that, fifty five minutes, an hour and five minutes,
something like that.

Speaker 6 (01:01:42):
But I mean, I'm sure most of the stuff is
going to be there in San Francisco.

Speaker 7 (01:01:46):
Oh yeah, then they're and they'll create some space where
you can go party at night and stuff and during
the day. I'm sure. I'm not even talking about the
NFL experience. You know how there's pop ups and everything.

Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
Well we've seen it twice in this town. Right when
it takes over your town, it takes over your town
exactly everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
No doubt.

Speaker 7 (01:02:02):
It's uh so, I'm anxious to see how that's gonna
It's going to turn out entertainment wise, and people who
love the you know, the corporate world that likes to
golf and have February in San Francisco in the afternoon,
go watch at and t They'll be wearing sweaters. It
feels like the British Open in August or July, right
whatever they're I mean, where you can get awfully chili there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
So it's going to be interesting to see. But I mean,
if you're a.

Speaker 7 (01:02:28):
Golfer, you get some of the best courses from Pebble
Beach and Cypress Point and all that up there, and
want to a you know, Peninsula Country Club, you got
all that because corporate world wants to play golf and
find a place to party.

Speaker 6 (01:02:38):
I would say though, too, like I was, you know
saying about Taylor Swift is she doesn't need this. I mean,
she she's got all the notoriety she's got, you know,
any time she even hints at a album release then
the internet crash over. So what do they pay them
they do this? Yeah, I'd have to look that up,
but I mean I'm sure it's a phenomenal fee air to.

Speaker 7 (01:03:00):
Seven figures yeah, oh yeah, yeah sure, and she would
require more than that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
She doesn't need the money.

Speaker 7 (01:03:05):
So this is just is it worth getting doing all
the things you got, especially if you're on a concertur
to stop all the things that go with it and
all the hype and pub and pomp and circumstance. But
so well, I, like I said, I'm willing to give
anybody a chance to see how they entertain. You never know,
maybe it turns into something awesome.

Speaker 6 (01:03:21):
Well, in the NFL trying to get deeper and deeper
into Latin America too, So I.

Speaker 7 (01:03:25):
Mean, well you can see from game after game not
only Latin Brazil and in Europe. I mean, they're trying
to do everything they can to be global.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
In Mexico City games all that.

Speaker 7 (01:03:34):
At some point time, it is probably going to piss
you off that this super Bowl is not on and
you'll be paying for it through At some point time,
you'll be paying for it through subscription super Bowl because everybody,
you're going to pay anyway, because.

Speaker 6 (01:03:47):
They'll they'll go streaming, and Roger Goodell even you even
hinted it that it's.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Going to happen.

Speaker 7 (01:03:51):
And I don't know, but at some point in time,
I would imagine that you may see a super Bowl
that's not on your soil.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
I think both of those very much.

Speaker 7 (01:04:02):
I think that's going to bother a lot of people.
But remember a simple way to follow anything to do
with big business and politics. Just follow the money. If
you follow the money, it'll lead you right to where
it wants to go. And the money will be so
enormous they're going to force it down your throat.

Speaker 6 (01:04:16):
One of the undefeated things in life, that is for sure,
and the NFL definitely chases it. All right, let's get
back into the astros because if Dana Brown is not
willing to do this, well, then I.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Have my serious doubts.

Speaker 6 (01:04:28):
We'll discuss that, and if you want to get in,
you can someone three two on two five seven ninety
against someone three two on two five seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
It is a Shawn Salisbury show Sports Talk seven ninety.
I am a dip guy.

Speaker 7 (01:04:41):
You say Shaw will kindit, Well, I can tell you
what kind of dip Daisy French onion dip and the
daisy ranch dip. Now I am, i'm, I'm like the
finger food appetizer chips, you know, throw a fredo in
their chips.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
To get the dips.

Speaker 7 (01:04:55):
Sometimes to the point, on college game day or during
Saturdays studies get up put the spread. It always has
the daisy french onion dip or the daisy ranch tip.
Was in the local grocery store over the weekend picking
it up. And why because well, the other foods fine
and dandy later in the day, but in order to
get you through.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
And don't you do it on holidays too. You do
it on Labor Day, you do it on holidays. You
do it sports and it's sports season.

Speaker 7 (01:05:17):
This is daisy french onion dip and ranch dip time
of year, right and now it comes out with this
delicious french onion dip. As an obsession of mine, they
are delicious as homemade dip. You can add whatever you
want to be. You won't need to because they got
the real erbs and spices and the other ingredients you'd
find in your own kitchen.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
But they're doing it for you.

Speaker 7 (01:05:36):
Pop on into your local grocery store and find out
what I already know and have known. And I'm grateful
to be part of this where I get to well
spend my college football Saturday and Sundays or any other
day of the week doing what really is the strength
of a meal, my chips and dips, and it's Daisy
French onion dip and daisy ranch dip. I can go

(01:05:57):
to my refrigerator and take a picture. You'll see it now,
visualize it, and then go out and do it. Get
to your local grocery store and look for Daisy French
onion dip at a grocery.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
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Speaker 14 (01:06:08):
I had to live.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
The Sewn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 6 (01:06:14):
Talking about the astros right now, if you want to
get in someone three two, one, two, five, seven ninety
and uh mentioning you know the potential moves that could
be made this offseason, and we gave you the offensive
numbers earlier, and I know that it's one of those
popular topics for people of the hitting coaches. The hitting
coaches Sean coaches are on one year deals. It's at

(01:06:38):
the end of the season a determination do we bring
these guys back?

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Do we not?

Speaker 6 (01:06:43):
I think that's going to be a very easy decision
to be made. Where Alex Sintron I think had been
with the team since twenty seventeen, if I'm not mistaken,
maybe even longer. But he, as far as I know,
the longest tenured coach on this staff. And you've had
different managers since then, You've had a different pitching coach
because Prince Strom leaven after the twenty twenty one season.

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But those numbers, especially after what they did last year,
and injuries were a part of it in twenty twenty
four to two. But I think it's going to be
pretty simple to believe that there is going to be
a change with the way that you're hitting is approached.

Speaker 7 (01:07:21):
I think you have to evaluate everything. We talk about
evaluation of players, what you want to pay a guy
like from or to stay or go, and if you're
going to be in that evaluation of you know, positions,
evaluation a young players, evaluation of the manager, evaluation of
the general manager of all.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
That that's fair.

Speaker 7 (01:07:37):
Everybody should be evaluated, no doubt either. There's you know,
sacred coles are hard to come by these days, where
you just all it's automatic, you're there, And I think
they've done a good Obviously Dana Brown will be back,
and obviously, in my opinion, so will Joe Espata. I
don't think that's even a question. But you've got to
evaluate people around you. The question is are you getting
better with the current staff and players? That's what you

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have to Did they get better and were they difference
makers that If you don't believe they were, then the
evaluation says you got to move on. But if you're
evaluating that right now, I think that initially, you know,
you'd say, is is that a different hitting instructor will
be here now?

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
I don't know. Some people are so loyal to a
fault that it gets you in trouble. Now.

Speaker 7 (01:08:20):
The one thing I will say, I don't know what
alex and Trump's teaching because we're not in there in
the cage with them listening to him talk to his players.
But the production says that for me that it didn't translate.
Does that make sense that whatever he's teaching it maybe
for some it did, some it didn't. And that's the
problem when you when you got that many players, my

(01:08:40):
man trying to make sure that what you're teaching And
I hate to say this, but your philosophy can't be
the same for everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
It can't. It can't. You cannot.

Speaker 7 (01:08:53):
Certain swings require a different I mean, you've got maybe
a base philosophy of mechanics, right of like a quarterback
my base philosophy. But if you give me fifty quarterbacks
and I treat them all the same on training them,
I'm doing a disservice to forty nine of them because
you got to buy into what makes them. And I
thought it was brilliant listening to yesterday about Kevin O'Connell

(01:09:17):
and his You like with Carson Wentz and wents is
playing well, he's playing he threw a couple picks, playing well.
Is it Kevin O'Connell. When to get Carson Wentz, who's
been up and down and had some troubles become a
journeyman trying to find out the stuff he's done in
the past, and coaching him different than you coach JJ McConnell.
Then you coach Sam Darnold and he's been brilliant at

(01:09:39):
it and getting production from the position.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
The same thing here with hitting.

Speaker 7 (01:09:42):
So you know what you listen josel to two B
is going to be taught different than Jeremy Pania because
of where they hold the bat, how they get through,
what do they like to chase, and what's where's their zone.
And that's the brilliance of a great teacher and a
great coach is the ability to understand that this guy's different.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
So you have to as a coach.

Speaker 7 (01:10:04):
And I don't like making twenty five, twenty six guys
or thirty guys, fifty guys adjust to a coach rules
and how they go about the base stuff. I'd prefer
one coach to adjust his game to suit the skill set.
If you're a great teacher and you go into math
and twenty of the kids in the class or catch

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on to what you're teaching in five don't, then I
suggest you change the way you teach for the other five. Now,
if they're just not learning because they don't want to be,
you get my point that you just can't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
This is the way it is. No, there's a lot
of different ways to get whatever the light switch.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Is to go on?

Speaker 7 (01:10:40):
Is what a good And if you got to find
twenty six different light switches, you got to find them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
So I can tell you this.

Speaker 7 (01:10:47):
This year, they didn't find twenty six different light switches
or twenty five. When I say that, obviously the hitting
there's not that many because the pitcher's on all that, right,
But you don't with a group of hitters. You you
have to adjust. And that's just in any sport and
any teaching, any teaching in anything. You can't teach them
all the same. And whatever it was did not did

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not compute for the for the whole group this year.

Speaker 6 (01:11:14):
It just seemed like as the season went along that
adjustments were not made whatsoever. I mean, we had Dana
Brown on with us. I can't remember exactly when you
asked him about yinor Diaz, but he's like, oh, we
talked to him about staying in the zone, don't chase,
And then what did we continue to see out of him?
Like I understand, you get into a season, you're not
gonna make a ton of adjustments. You don't want to

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do paralysis by analysis, all of those things. I get
all of that, but I mean to see just that
as an example front of mind, just continue to persist.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Time and time and time again where I'm.

Speaker 6 (01:11:49):
Sure they're probably telling them, hey, you're not going to
hit that pitch, stop swinging at it, but still you continue.

Speaker 7 (01:11:55):
To see it and listen. I one thing we also
every guy doesn't hit well. I'll go back again. At
no point in time in my life as a quarterback
was a decision I made to throw the football on
Brian Billick or any Tom Moore. Now how we got
to the point of if he's saying, hey, throw a
hitch route into cover two and that's what you're being taught,

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it's like, well, Jason, why am I throwing a hitch
rout in the cover too? That's just bad teaching and
nobody's dumb enough to teach that, right. But when we've
gone over and it computes during the week and then
you just make a bad decision that's not on the coordinator.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Same thing here.

Speaker 7 (01:12:31):
You can preach it all you want, but if a
guy is not is you either got to first off,
you teach it. Then if he's not understanding why what
you're teaching, you got to adjust your teaching. So the
light switch goes on, says, oh okay, this is now
I get what you're saying. Boom, it clicks on, and
it does for a lot of people. But that's the
job of the coach. But simply saying to Ian or Diaz.

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Don't chase. Now, I know when we have Dana on
it's limited time. He doesn't dive into the every exit
because you can't because we're not out there showing the
guy I'll hitting off the tee are at batting practice
and mechanics. But it goes far deeper than just don't chase.
That's the equivalent if you're really if you're teaching it,
of saying, hey, you just hit a fellow, straighten it out? Well,
no kidding, okay, So the depth of what the depth

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of it you got, you got to deeper. There's got
to be something that's more than hey, just lay off
a pitch outside the strikes on. Well, of course, I
don't think Jiner Daz wants to swing at a ball
that's non competitive. Yet he waves at him. We saw pain,
you do that. He made adjustments. He's gotten better at it.
So whatever it is that Painia put it this way.

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We could look and say, Boyce Centrone sure was good
with Jake Myers, Yeah, because he adjusted right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
So, but it's hard to get him all in.

Speaker 7 (01:13:42):
Buying is important, but also there's a I don't know
why we take a respi if a guy can't throw strikes.
That's not on the pitching coach, especially if it's being
taught right now. If it's being taught trashy, well then
I know how to get rid of somebody quickly. So
for me, yeah, you got to look at it hard
and evaluate. But players got to have some accountability too.
But it's not gonna be good enough just to tell

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a guy, hey, quit swinging at high pitches out of
the zone. Well, no kidding, dumb ass. Of course I
got to quit swing it. But the player at some
point's got to make that adjustment. But the best teachers
in this world are the ones who understand how to
adjust their teaching to fit everybody, not just somebody. Yeah,

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and I mean these are things that are going to
be going to be evaluated in judging by the performance,
you'd say not coming back.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
But you know how loyalty is, dude, you never know.

Speaker 6 (01:14:34):
Well, I mean it is also though too. I mean
that is part of what makes this offseason so important
for this team. And I think something else that can
make this important for this team is does it look
a lot like what last offseason did? And if that's
the case, well then it probably is going to shake
some Astros fans to their core Steve, So you want
to get in, you want to join them someone three
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one two five seven ninety. If Dana Brown doesn't do this,
then when you start to have some questions, we'll discuss that.
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Speaker 6 (01:17:22):
It's one of those things that Dana Brown will say
all the time, Sean, do you have the stomach for this?
You know that's one of his famous sayings. Well, the
stomach for this is this offseason where last year, I
don't think anybody going into this season that we just
had thought that during the off season Kyle Tucker would
get traded. But then it was league meetings those started

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to kind of fire up a little bit, and then
at the end of the league meetings, Oh yeah, he's
been traded, and you get Hayden Wasznesky, cam Smith and
essach Preitis back from the Cubs for him and all
three of those guys, well at least two of them,
because Wassnsky didn't have enough to sample size to really
show you what.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
He could do this year.

Speaker 6 (01:18:00):
But it looks like he's going to be good, and
he did some good things there. There is no doubt
about that. So hopefully you get to see him next year.
But now it comes to a question of this offseason
untouchable guys. Who's untouchable here? I mean for me, aside
from Jordan and Jeremy Pania, I don't see any untouchable.

Speaker 7 (01:18:18):
Two V is untouchable because he's not going anywhere well,
I mean just with the contract and he had a
down fact, he's a lifer here. If he hits your
ninety seven, they're not getting ready right right, because it
would be the fan base would jose Al two B
is the one guy every every I don't even know
every city. It's like for me when I was going
to San Diego, Tony Gwynn. Now he never hit one
ninety seven. Tony Gwin a bad season was three to ten.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Okay, so you could he was untouchable. He was going
to be a life for no matter what. Didn't matter.

Speaker 7 (01:18:46):
If Jose al two b the next three years of
his contract hits two hundred, guess who's still going to
be an astro him. So to me, the untouchables are
Hunter Brown. There, it's a no brainer.

Speaker 6 (01:18:57):
He is.

Speaker 7 (01:18:58):
He is going to be the ace of your staff
moving forward. Jordan Alvarez because you just you see what
he's like when he's healthy. The guy when he's healthy,
he's a top five hitter in this game.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
There's no question.

Speaker 7 (01:19:11):
And Major League Baseball and people who vote on that
will tell you the same thing. Jeremy Payne, you're right now.
I don't know why you get rid of a three
hundred hitting, slick fielding shortstop. I would just I just
am looking for even more power from Jeremy. I think
that his body's built well enough to do that. But
I'll take it to me.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
That's it. I leave anybody out, no.

Speaker 6 (01:19:33):
And I mean and I think that even with those
guys being untouchable, as we say, here's where the stomach
park comes in with Dana Brown, you get calls on
any of those guys. I want my GM to be
open to anything in order to be able to improve
this roster. And maybe some people would say in the
immediate you're going to take a step back. Sure, but

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there is no part of this roster right now that
I look at and I say, oh, man, like if
you if you are offered a king's ransom for say,
Jeremy Pania, you gotta listen to it.

Speaker 7 (01:20:04):
You got you gotta at least discuss it. Oh well,
see listen, we say untouchable. Al Altuve literally isn't, unless,
of course they called him and said, we'll give you
O Tani. We'll give you O Tani and three other
Dodger players for Altuve. You'd probably have to consider it. Sure, okay,
but within reason. Let's let's be serious here. For me,

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I'm listening to every call. Dude, we say untouchable meaning can't.
But yes, if all of a sudden somebody came up
and you got a position or two or three players
because somebody coveted the guy, and you got three two
all stars in and another player a pitcher, you know
you have to listen. So when I say untouchable, the
truth of the matter is the only real untouchable one,

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for the most part is Jose al Tuve because if
they called up and said, otani for Jordan, what are
you doing, You're saying goodbye Jordon, O Tani for Jordon
and payya what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Sorry?

Speaker 7 (01:20:59):
Guys yet, right, So they are touchable, but within reason, right,
because the Dodgers are not doing that, right. So when
you're talking about who's in there, you've got to have
two people that want to be in the business together, right,
So that's it. So there's certain things you're not doing.
You don't get to buy Tesla for ten million dollars.
It may cost you ten, you know, fifty billion dollars,
but you ain't getting it for ten. So within reason,

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the point is they're not. But Al two Bay is
the closest thing because of the history here and the
love the fan base. But yes, you take every call,
and you make every call. Here's when here, here's when
they're untouchable. When the other when the other guy, when
the guy here did, no matter what you trade him
for doesn't make the roster better than it is with
the guy on it. So I even say Hunter Brown.

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But if all of a sudden you got a call
that gave you two starting pitchers, one equal to Hunter
Brown and his age, and another starting pitcher that's a
number three starter, you get a one starter and a
three starter and a starting second, starting shortstop or starting third, whatever,
starting first basement.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
That's got power.

Speaker 7 (01:21:58):
Guess what you're listening even with Hunter Brown. So really
the word untouchable just is like within rea say the
guy's untouchable. Within reason, there are certain players that you're just.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
Going to go.

Speaker 7 (01:22:10):
You're good that you just go get so. But I'm
making and taking every call when we say untouchable. It's
like you've got to get out of in this part
of the year. You got to get out of the
emotion business. You just do as a general manager. Your
number one trait, aside from being able to eye talent,
is you can't be emotional about it. The truth is

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you almost got to be cold about it. Man, we
love you here, and the less you talk, the better.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Man. Thanks, good, great, You've been great here. You'll be
great somewhere else.

Speaker 7 (01:22:38):
And you know you've got to move on from it
because the more you start to think about it and
when you make the decision, after you've done all your
due diligence, you make it and go with it and
you can't look back. You'll deal with regrets later if
in fact it doesn't work out like the Kyle Tucker deal,
who knows over the next three or four five years.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
So untouchable is.

Speaker 7 (01:22:58):
A word we use often, But everybody's touchable depending on
who the other guy that you're going to trade for.
But guys like Otani ain't coming here. You're not getting him,
So for the most part, you'd have to give up
the lot to get a guy like Jordan. And who's
I mean? And when I say a lot, that's a lot.
The key for us now is hoping the guy gets
healthy so he can give you. One hundred and forty
five games a.

Speaker 6 (01:23:18):
Year would be nice, and you definitely would love to
have that as opposed to what we saw this year
out of Jordon Alvarez, Steve and Bobby see you right there,
work in you want to join them seven one three
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this offseason with the Astros. We'll discuss that here. As
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Speaker 6 (01:24:21):
Angels yesterday six to two and finished the regular season
off eighty seven and seventy five. Missed the postseason for
the first time since twenty sixteen. Texans though, gonna win
twenty six to nothing over the Titans at NRG Stadium.
And you have h with a nice win Friday night,
fourteen straight points in the fourth quarter. Send it to

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ot and Ethan Sanchez walking it off with a twenty
four yarder right through the uprights. But talking to astros
right now, if you want to get in at seven one, three, two, one, two, five,
seven nine, we'll keep it going on the phone lines.
Steve on the northwest side, Good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Steve, Good morning, gillmute. How y'all doing good?

Speaker 11 (01:25:01):
Yeah, I just want to count.

Speaker 14 (01:25:03):
In on the on the astros thing.

Speaker 16 (01:25:05):
To be honest with you, I'm kind of just I'm
bewildered to where to even start, where they need to
and where they need to start. You know, I talked
to a lot of people obviously, and we we we
discussed the astros and and you know, everybody's on the
pitch and the pitch and you get the forehead of
this season.

Speaker 9 (01:25:25):
Our counting was pretty dark.

Speaker 10 (01:25:26):
Hood we were in close games.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
Yeah, Steve something with your phone.

Speaker 6 (01:25:33):
Tripley tried to see if we can fix that on
his end because it almost sounded like he had like
an electric razor like up to the phone right there.
So well, we'll try to work you back in, Bobby,
Will keep it going with you. What's going on, Bobby?

Speaker 10 (01:25:47):
Oh, I think doing the off season. They need they
need pit, they need picture it is and the new
manager or company uh that need that needs something.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
You know, Hold on, Bobby, let's start with the manager first, Like,
what why not Joe a spot up?

Speaker 10 (01:26:08):
Well, Well, he you know, he's been doing he's been trying, but.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
I don't think he will Will.

Speaker 10 (01:26:19):
Will good like the other mine into work, you know,
Gussie Baker, you know, oh you know, and I think
we need him. We'll something that could you know, do
to get some players going or something.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:26:43):
I mean, I'm not really sure I follow with that.
I mean, okay, let's just go through the injuries here
really quick. Spencer Arraghetti missed all but seven starts this year,
Renel Blanco, Tommy John after nine starts, Luis Garcia gonna
miss another season. Two starts out of him, final two
months out of Josh Hater, Lance McCullers junior for much
of the year, Caleb or John Rooney, Bennett Susa Brand,

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Brandon Walter Hayden was Nesky who made six starts for
the team this year. And that's not even getting to
the position players that you missed for a significant amount
of time this year. So I'm not really sure what
you wanted him to be able to do. I mean,
my god, Bobby, at a point he was running out
Taylor Tremmeel, Zach Short, and Cooper Hummel in a lineup
and trying to win ball games.

Speaker 12 (01:27:27):
Uh huh.

Speaker 10 (01:27:28):
You think the player that you mentioned, you think they'd
be you know that they'd be they won't be there
this next year.

Speaker 17 (01:27:37):
You know the ones you mentioned, well.

Speaker 6 (01:27:39):
I mean possibly appreciate the call. I mean everything is
is is up for debate. Everything is up for consideration
with this team and me and Sean in the last segment,
you know, we we talked about you know, your quote
unquote untouchable guys. But I mean anybody that can possibly
be moved. Dana Brown's gonna be open to doing it.

Speaker 7 (01:28:00):
And I also, as much as we like Joe spot
and did a great job considering you evaluate every position.
I believe Joe a spotted Dana browner back, and I
don't think it's even going to be a consideration this offseason.
I don't other situations maybe staff players. For sure, the
roster will look different, make no mistake about it. It
can't look the same. It's not going to look the same.

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Hell is not going to look the same. All the
injuries are healthy, and there just won't be enough space
for everybody. You're gonna have to move somebody, I mean
field and on the pitching staff. So I just I
think Joe is still in the process of learning as
a manager. In the second year. I get it, He's
made some good decisions. I think there's some I know
that people want more fire and all that stuff, and
I get that part. Everybody has an opinion on what

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a successful manager look like, looks like should I say,
And Joe's still got some growth in front of him,
just like players do, just like Demiko Ryans has some
growth in front of him too. So evaluate it, I said,
you evaluate. If I'm Jim Crane, We're evaluating everybody, and
then we'll come back to it. And if if somebody's gone,

(01:29:04):
it'll be that they went through the evaluation and it
didn't fit with either the money or didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Fit with what they're trying to get accomplished. And I
understand it.

Speaker 7 (01:29:11):
So, but I'd be hard pressed to say, I mean you,
It'd be quite a reach to say that the reason
the Astros loss this year is because Joe a spot on.

Speaker 6 (01:29:21):
Dana Brown East Soak Paratis missed two months with a
hamstring injury, Jeremy Pania thirty five games with the broken
rib and also the oblique issue. Jordan Alvarez just played
in forty eight games this year with the hand in
the ankle, keeping him out for the others. Jake Myers
two months with the CAF injury. You didn't have him
at the end of the season, and there's countless others

(01:29:41):
that you had there with the medical staff needs evaluated too.

Speaker 7 (01:29:44):
No, and I think that that problem is to be
too or their approach for it and how you go
about your business has to be understanding. Why is it
takes so long to get our players back on the
field or are they ahead of progress they got them
that jord On being out one hundred games should have
been one hundred and forty games. Is that Is that
what it's supposed to mean? And then you look at
Estoch Paratus and he came back the suggestion of surgery
and said, no came you know, so I think you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
Got to look at it.

Speaker 7 (01:30:06):
Ut like I said, you evaluate them all. I don't
believe in there's many sacred cows in sports anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
I just don't.

Speaker 7 (01:30:12):
There are some, but a sacred cow is one that
is the true untouchable. There's not many of those going on.
And those untouchables are either because of a history with
the organization for a long period of time, like a Altove,
or to be a player like Otani. But he was
even touchable. Why it got to got to free agency.
And guess what, he went to the Dodgers, so they

(01:30:32):
weren't willing to to to uh or do they trade him?
Was a trader that was a free agent. It was
a free agent. They traded him to the Angels, trade
him for no because they would have we would have
it would have been one hundred person haul.

Speaker 17 (01:30:43):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:30:45):
So the point is is that if he's not a
sacred cow and you ain't keeping him, they're not many
of them.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
I'm entertaining at all. I'm evaluating them all.

Speaker 7 (01:30:52):
There's no person that's going into their post exit an
interview that will not be evaluated period.

Speaker 6 (01:30:56):
Well, and here's something else to consider that you almost
want wonder if this is something else brought up to
certain guys, is how you approach the offseason in your
workload and everything that you do going into it, because
for right now, I would say that not a single
guy will be doing anything physically for about a month,
and then you start to kind of ramp it up

(01:31:17):
with some conditioning weights, all those different types of things,
and then they usually tell you that after January one,
that's when you can start hitting and throwing and doing
all that kind of stuff again. Because I mean Sean.
Let's call it what it is. This was a team that,
with all the injuries they had, eventually just physically wore down.
They looked like a fatigued baseball team the last week

(01:31:40):
and a half of this season.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:31:41):
I would have trouble though thinking that a guy like
Jeremy Pania or Zach Dezenzo. I'm just using names off
Cam Smith are going to wait till January. We're in
September still to work out. I actually for me, guys,
I've been around even in football. Take three weeks a
month off, Go vacation, get away from it, get your

(01:32:02):
ass off social media, go have some fun. If you're
a golf for a golf for fish, travel dood all.
But after that, oh, I I think you're back into
not grinding to the point where it's an eight hour
Nobody works out eight hours a day. When people say
I got to work out all day, No you don't.
Nobody does that. That's you're sitting around looking at your phone,
working at Start to start to work as slow. But

(01:32:24):
have an off season plan. I guess that's what I'm saying.
Have an off season plan. To me, if you start
working in January and you've got to be there in
late February. You're too late to the party. That to
me is a lazy off season. You're exactly right. They've
played a lot of baseball. I think you don't pick
up a bat. Let it go for a while, like right, awf,
you're a Ryder Cup player because the season doesn't start
to what January or December? Why the world would you

(01:32:44):
even touch a golf club if you practice but for
the next three weeks, five rounds, exhausted golf, spend time
with your kids, don't even touch it. Same thing here,
but after that January for me would be too late.
My metal psyche would be oh my gosh, am I
really ready. But there's got to be a plan. Just
like you plan during the season, You've got to put
a plan in place and organize it so you understand

(01:33:06):
when you can build you a crescendo, so you're ready
to go in spring training hits.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
I don't like people that go to camp to get
in shape.

Speaker 7 (01:33:12):
I like people that go to camp to hit the
ground run in the two weeks into it, they're in
regular season form. January for me, especially if you're a pitcher,
that's too late. You got to get the build. When
we talk about build up in spring training, I don't
understand why you're not getting build up in the off season.
Maybe just maybe I'm not talking about we're pumping it
up one hundred in a batting case, like we see

(01:33:32):
these guys that go and crow hop three times and
blow out their arm. I'm talking about building up. So
I kind of want you when you're in mid when
you're seeing live hitting. For me, I don't want my
quarterback showing up having not picked up a football unless
you're you're forty two and you don't need a lot
of throws in the off season, but you're sure as
hell better get your legs right and strong and get
your mind right.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
You got to have a plan.

Speaker 7 (01:33:54):
If you don't have a plan, you're putting yourself in
a harm's way. But get it ready and get yourself
ready to go. But you're right, they got you gotta
get away from it from me for a while. You
just have to, or if you don't, hell, you'll be
burned out by the time you show up. It's a
long season in baseball. Hence why you have to be
in great condition, not just physically, but you've got to
be mentally right, and if you're not mentally right, that

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grind will get to you even more than the physical will.

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
Bob and Humble, We'll work you in.

Speaker 6 (01:34:19):
You want to join them someone three two one two
five seven ninety against someone three two one two five
seven ninety. Also in this eight o'clock hour, Damiko Ryans
making the decision yesterday that I thought was gonna come later.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
We'll discuss all of that right here.

Speaker 6 (01:34:32):
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Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
The Sean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 6 (01:35:29):
Someone three two one two five seven ninety is the
number to get in. As I mentioned a couple of
you want to get in on the astros, you want
to join them? Someone three two one two five seven
ninety is the number. Bob in Humble wants to wait in.
Bob good morning, Say good morning guys.

Speaker 11 (01:35:46):
I'm just kind of thinking ahead here, provided everyone stays healthy.
I mean, what what is your infield going to look
like next year? With parades and Pinya and Correa. I
mean they you've got, you know, you've got a third.
Where does that leave Korea?

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
Well, I mean you're gonna have Korea a third.

Speaker 6 (01:36:05):
And I think just for being able to not put
as much physically on him that would be demanded of
playing shortstop, I think you feel like that you've got
a better chance of keeping him healthy throughout the season.
So that's your left side of the infield. The question
is second base. I mean, I know that they had
floated out the idea of East Soak Paradis getting some
time over there. So if you can't move Christian Walker,

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does that make him pretty much your everyday second baseman,
which defensively you probably would take a step back there.
But I mean you've got at least the players available
to you. It's just finding a place for those guys
to play.

Speaker 11 (01:36:43):
Yeah, I'm just wondering, uh, you know, I mean, like
you said, a big if with Christian Walker, has ever.

Speaker 14 (01:36:50):
Played me first?

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:36:51):
He has, Yeah, he played. He played with Tampa and
I think with the Cubs too. He played a little
bit over there, so now he he can play that position.
It's just with Walker. I mean, he's got two years,
forty million left on his deal, and even though the
average was not great, he hit much better on the
road this year. I mean, Sean and Bob, everybody listening,
are we aware that he was the team leader in

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home runs and RBI this year for this team. So
it wasn't like it was a complete loss this year
out of Christian Walker, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (01:37:19):
Yeah, he just did not perform when you know, like
you said at home, and when it really counted, you know,
with rudders in scoring position.

Speaker 6 (01:37:27):
Now, I mean you're not wrong with that. Appreciate the call, Bob.
It sounds like you're making your way into work, But
I mean neither did the entire team. Remember earlier, I
gave the numbers all the way through, and I'm not mistaken.
I think the best the Astros where were thirteenth in
batting average this year, but they were twenty third as
a team with runners in scoring positions, So it was

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more pronounced with them. It seemed like it happened more
with Christian Walker, but it wasn't like he was, you know,
the one that completely dragged this team down. He was
just part of the problem with the rest of the
team when it came to trying to cash in on
those opportunities.

Speaker 7 (01:38:03):
Yeah, part of the problem which happened for many. If
he had come here and I told you that he
was listen, the timing of the hits is what your
problem is in mine as well. If I'd have told
you he was going to lead the team to what
home runs and RBIs you said.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
Yeah, twenty seven and eighty eight, I believe.

Speaker 7 (01:38:19):
Would you have said, I'll take it Okay, you don't
know anything else. You got the contract after what you'd
seen at first base, said he's coming here, I'll give
you twenty seven and eighty eight.

Speaker 6 (01:38:27):
Yeah, then that answers your question, because I mean you're
also thinking though, too, that Jordon's going to play more
than forty plus games, that you're going to have Jeremy
Pania for more than what one hundred and twenty five games?
Whatever you did this year. I mean, you know Jose
Altuve would not have a down year. So there are
a lot of other factors that I think the problem.

Speaker 7 (01:38:48):
What happens if you're on according to Dana and the
rest of them, when it plays, everybody hits better because
you're seeing different pitches and the rest of it. What
happens if Jordan's there the whole season? Is Christian Walker
hit thirty five and drive in one hundred possibly, Okay,
then that puts him in top and nobody expected him
to hit three hundred. He doesn't hit three hundred, so
two fifty yards throughout his career and that's well, well,

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what do you hit this year? Two forty five, two
forty seven, Somewhere in that range. Somewhere was taken I
mean he got between two thirty five and two fifty
most of the year, correct, all right, So if those
are his numbers coming in and he did it without
a lot of you know, whether it's lineup protection or
seeing different pitches and having your best, one of the
best hitters on the planet in the lineup for the

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majority of the season missed. Listen, there's a lot of things.
Yet the timing of the hits drove people crazy. I
get it strikeouts and the rest of it. But if
I were to tell you those were going to be
the numbers and that Jordan was going to play and
he hit thirty plus and drove in one hundred, now
twenty seven and eighty eight, look around the league, you'd
have probably said, that's pretty good first pace production. Considering here,

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I would have thank you'd have been euphoric over it.

Speaker 6 (01:39:56):
Two thirty eight with a seven eighteen ops with twenty
seven homer eighty eight runs back at that, that's.

Speaker 7 (01:40:01):
The part ops you'd like a little higher for a
slugging first base, right, and it may be higher if
you had your full lineup at your disposal most of
the year, if not all of it so well, not
only with the money. But are you really moving on
from that right now? Considering and seeing getting gu healthy,

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are you running back at first base?

Speaker 6 (01:40:23):
I think they want to, but I mean no, I
think they want to run it back with because I mean,
it's it's one of those where you're saying to yourself,
you can't keep paying guys to go away and expect
to be a competitive team. Like even some people throwing
out the idea of Lance mccullor's junior just let them
walk next year, that's not going to happen. You're going
to get at least a half a season out of

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Lance mccullors junior next year. And if this continues again,
he's you know, constantly hurt whatever it is, then maybe
when you get to the midway point in the season,
they're like, well, this is a sunk cost and we've
already paid them halfway through. Let's send him on his way.
I mean maybe that's when that happens.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
Are you starting him?

Speaker 6 (01:41:02):
I think you're gonna have to, yes, because you're more
than likely, even with what Fromer said yesterday, you're not
getting fromer Valdez back fromber Valdez will be a New
York met He'll be a Chicago Cub. He'll be a
New York Yankee. He's going to be somewhere else and
just not here. A Dodger possibility only. Yeah, Yeah, I
don't think it's going to.

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
Be here either. I think you got you're moving on
from that. I don't know. I think that that's probably
and you don't have a choice because he gets to
make that.

Speaker 6 (01:41:30):
The choice has also already been made for you with
some of the deals that you already have in your building.
Lance McCuller Junior is one of those guys. Christian Walker
is one of those guys. I'm like, yes, they do
have money to spend, and I think that they are
going to go after starting pitching with said money, and maybe,
just maybe, if there is a chance to be able
to improve your outfield offensively, that's going to be a case.

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But we're talking about a left fielder at that point,
and then it's a question of what do you do
with jose L Tuve?

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
You mean, where are you gonna put him?

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
Back at second base?

Speaker 16 (01:42:02):
Now?

Speaker 7 (01:42:03):
Then where do you I understand, yeah, you're not going
to d h him, but once in a while, because
you're not going to play yourd on left field every
day and you're hoping, aren't you hoping one of the
big power right handed like a Descenzo, works his way
into playing on a regular basis. You like, you'd like
for that to be the case. And so where's that?
What position is that going to be? Paradis was clutch

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for them this year? So yeah, I mean okay, so
if you move Karta like the caller and you were
talking about, can you move him to first base? Okay,
well you're losing a really good defender. I mean, while
you get him at first base, you know obviously you
want him at a little bit different agreed. So then
you say, well, can Paradis play first base? Well, Christian
Walker's got two years.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
Left to do. You start to say, well can you
do this? Well? Can he do?

Speaker 7 (01:42:46):
I can tell you right now. You know who you're
starting centerfielder is next year? Jack, Yeah, sure he is.
He solidified that with his bat this year. You know
you're starting right fielder is Kim Smith? Right, So if
you're starting left fielder jose Al to be, then where's
the room for young power back? They do need more
power and production from the outfield. Without question, I still
consider Jose Al Tove, a middle infielder.

Speaker 6 (01:43:07):
I do.

Speaker 7 (01:43:09):
You know is the defensive metrics have fallen off a
little bit, but he's going to play and you're not
dehing him because you're not playing your don one hundred
and forty games in the outfield. So they got some
decisions to make, man and that's why this roster is
gonna look different.

Speaker 6 (01:43:21):
Well it's gonna look different too because I mean, for
al Twove, he played in how many games did he
play in this year? He played in one hundred and
fifty five of the one to sixty two this year,
and I believe that was his highest total, second highest
that he's had in his career. He played one fifty
eight in two thousand and fourteen, and as a matter

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of fact, it's his third highest because he played all
but one game in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
Who are you tell this team? Alt right?

Speaker 10 (01:43:48):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
How many games again? One hundred and fifty five?

Speaker 7 (01:43:51):
Okay, so think about that now, let me get back
to load management. Can we get back to that for
a secure This is a guy who's held mid thirties. Yeah,
I believe gonna be thirty six next year, okay, and
playing left field and second base, doing anything you want, right,
didn't have his best year hitting the baseball. Still, he'll
be thirty six next man, what twenty plus home runs
is still?

Speaker 18 (01:44:11):
You know?

Speaker 7 (01:44:11):
Would hit two sixty five this year? Just under two
seventy I think somewhere around there.

Speaker 2 (01:44:15):
You hit it right on the number. It was sixty
five with a seven to seventy one. Ops. Okay, so.

Speaker 7 (01:44:21):
Doesn't that You know how we talk about rest and
get guys rest. You had a guy who's your oldest
starter on your roster, correct, who's been playing baseball for
a long time, right, started one hundred and fifty five
games this year, Miss seven as your best player, I mean,
as you're as your your well maybe your best astro ever. Okay,

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in the in the conversation, So why in the world
is anybody else not playing one hundred and fifty five games?
You tell me why I'm talking. I know, injured you
can't play it. I'm talking about when you're healthy. You
got a guy who, so I thought we were supposed
to I thought, the older guy, you got to give
him rest. The dude demanded and played one hundred and
fifty five out one hundred and sixty two games. Don't

(01:45:03):
tell me a twenty three year old third baseman or
a twenty year old left fielder or right don't tell
me they can't play one hundred and fifty five games. Catcher,
I get. I don't want to hear it. I just
don't loads management sucks. Hose Altuve. Well, and if somebody says, well,
see that's why you only hit two six fives play
one hundred five fifty five games.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
Oh well, it'll be better. Sempty chased.

Speaker 7 (01:45:23):
It was one of those years people were heard he's
moving around doing it all that, all of a sudden
valid that just takes away all this. Well, man, we
got to get more rest more. No, why the lineup
needs to be repeated on a regular That's one of
the biggest problems I have. On a healthy day. When
a guy's hot, well we had him scheduled three days ago. Yeah,
but he's sitting six hundred the last six games. He
doesn't need a day arrest. He's twenty friggin five. You

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can't imagine, well, well, Shawn, that's just our cake thing. No,
it's not our cake. Thinking is called what you're supposed
to do. So I get paid to come to work
and actually do your job, and that the oldest player
on the roster and play and plays one hundred and
fifty five games, fights through struggles, plays both positions.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
And DH does it all.

Speaker 7 (01:46:06):
Didn't have his best year, still hit twenty plus home runs,
still played one hundred fifty five games, and you can
still count on him. And you're gonna tell me a
twenty three year old outfielder or second basement or the
early thirties first baseman that they need time off. Save it,
Save that for when they're injured. I don't want to
hear it. I just don't close out to the validates

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what we're saying. Your oldest player's playing more than everybody else.
What does that tell you?

Speaker 6 (01:46:34):
Okay, he's a gamer, there's no doubt about it. Mike Brandon,
John see you guys, you want to join them someone
three two on two five seven ninety against someone three
two on two five seven ninety. We will get back
into the sections conversation too, but know a lot of
you want to get in on the strows, so we'll
do that right here. It is a Shawn Salisbury Show
on a Monday, Sports Talks seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:46:56):
We're fat for the Shawn Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 9 (01:47:01):
You know, I know that.

Speaker 6 (01:47:02):
You know he's a big golf guy too, So your
affinity for the words solid ball striking and you know,
for Sparky, now, who'll get a chance to put together
some good solid ball striking, which he said the baseball
example of that is he puts together a really good
at bat and I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:19):
When he did that, I love it too.

Speaker 7 (01:47:21):
I can't wait till he's priceless and I'm looking forward
to playing some golf with him. But spectacular dude, And
and he does great on our show. And Dana was
great this year. And we're indebted to them for their
commitment during good times, tough times, travel, all of it.
It ain't easy to do that and with all that
they got going on to do it, and both really

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good people, and we're forever grateful to have them as
part of a partnership.

Speaker 6 (01:47:46):
For sure, Stro's in their season, you have to say,
with a six to two win over the Angels in
Anaheim to finish up eighty seven and seventy five. But
then you look at the standings and you're like, wait
a minute, they have the same record as the Tigers.
All the Tigers had the head to head tiebreaker over years.
So that's why that went the way it went. But
the Texans do get their first wine yes day, twenty
six to nothing over the Titans at NRG Stadium. But

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we're talking to astros right now again. Someone three two one,
two five seven ninety is the number, Mike, and Spring
wants to weigh in.

Speaker 2 (01:48:15):
Good morning, Mike, Good morning fellows.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
How you doing.

Speaker 14 (01:48:19):
Uh, thank you to taking my call, long time listener,
first time call her.

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
Yeah, I appreciate it.

Speaker 14 (01:48:23):
Man, Guys, I want to hear I thank you, guys.

Speaker 18 (01:48:28):
I've been on fire this morning.

Speaker 14 (01:48:29):
But I want to hear what you think Zach Coles.
I guess, I guess role will be coming into this year.
We are crowded, right, and he had a pretty good
back end when he got called up. So I just
wanted to figure out kind of a couple of things. One,
what do you think Thatach Cole's role is? What do
you think we do with the leadoff position next year?

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Do we keep hanging there? Does he slide back to
provide protection for Alvarez? And who's gonna eat up innings
next year? And I know those again, all of that
up in the air, but just just kind of want
to hear what you guys gotta say. I'm gonna hang
up and listen.

Speaker 6 (01:49:04):
I appreciate the call. I mean you hope to get
more next year out of Spencer Aarraghetty. I guess what,
maybe halfway through the season you'll possibly get Hayden was
Nesky back and see what you get out of him.
I mean, there's going to be some battles, and I
think that a guy that you looked to to maybe
take a huge step forward next year in the rotation

(01:49:25):
is aj blue Ball. But here's the other thing is
too We've seen it in the past that Jim Crane
seemingly has his mind on someone and once somebody added here,
I don't think it was a mistake that Dylan Cease
was talked about the way that he was at the
trade deadline. I'm gonna be very shocked and surprised if
Dylan Cees is not one of your high profile offseason

(01:49:45):
free agent signing let's target.

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
Yeah, so we're gonna get get the Coles real quick.
What do you think was that?

Speaker 10 (01:49:51):
Cole?

Speaker 7 (01:49:51):
Yeah, I think he's going to have an opportunity to
be able to make this time. I was gonna say
it is Cole's position in the lineup, Where does he
have a place?

Speaker 6 (01:49:57):
No, he definitely does, but the way that he hit
late in the season, But I mean to say that
he is a shoe in to make this team.

Speaker 7 (01:50:04):
No, I'm not going to go that fall guy that
he uses an asset. Possibly the reason why I ask
because I don't know where the where you're going to
find if you if the roster's healthy, or's that Cole
gonna play?

Speaker 6 (01:50:16):
Well, I mean if he if he's healthy, then he's
gonna play left field.

Speaker 7 (01:50:20):
Yeah, I'm talking about if the roster's healthy, is he starting?
Is your opening day starting left fielder?

Speaker 6 (01:50:25):
I did say al Twove probably would be out there,
so I think al Tuove So No, to your point,
I mean, yeah, maybe he is somebody that you can
be able to have.

Speaker 7 (01:50:33):
As part of the trade down. He jump started, was
played well here opened some eyes. Let's put it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:50:38):
Position player of the year in the minor league system.

Speaker 7 (01:50:40):
That's exactly my point is that you're talking about he
comes up here and you know you got to seize moments,
right Zach Cole did that here to at least open
He did it in the minor league season for them
to even have a chance. He is a huge part
of it, That's what I'm saying. And so here's a
guy who that you're saying, okay, opened eyes here, not
only in minor, but here and gave you something to
think about. Right, So, somebody's gonna be used as an asset,

(01:51:02):
I think, will you. It's not gonna be Cam Smith
because he's not going you can forget that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
He's not going anywhere.

Speaker 7 (01:51:08):
You You you're not letting a guy go like that
after you've already traded your all star right field.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
Or an m v P type guy and.

Speaker 7 (01:51:15):
Right field last year to yeah, who proved that he's
a Gold Glove caliber playing right field when he didn't
even know how to play it yet laterally does. But
real quick, you talked about Bluba on the starting rotation,
you talked about.

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
Raghetty. Who else did you say, I mean, you got
to include Hunter Brown? Hunter Brown?

Speaker 7 (01:51:33):
Who else did you did you say? Somebody else to
eat up innings? Well, I mean when you get him back,
was okay? Was Christo Avier? And you're not gonna have Garcia.
He's already still hurt already shirt again, That's exactly right.
And I'm trying to think, so where's where's uh, where's

(01:51:54):
That's why I'm saying your fifth starter? And then you
got And I feel horrible for the fact that Garcia
has got to do this again. I think obviously he
you know, one of the worst scenes of the year
was when he knew it hit, is when he called
for the manager to come out, and it sucked. But
feeling he's out all the way I already get, I mean,
I already hate or we were already talking about another
guy who's out, which will be the better part of

(01:52:15):
what three years now to take away the little bit
he had this year because he miss pretty much all
of twenty three, he missed all of last year, and
then half years all next three quarters of this year fast,
so I mean about three years. So my point is,
which the reason why I was saying that is okay,
And then let's not forget maybe some of these young

(01:52:36):
outfielders that are on this team infa being versatile players
of Zenzo right playing field outfield. You start to go
through and you start to say, okay, are they keeping
him in minor leagues or are you going to use
him as assets to go get another player? And then
you talked about the Dylan c situation and with all
this comes up, are you willing to pay Pede Lonzo
money to come play First Space yere No, Okay, so

(01:52:56):
he's out, So your target's going to be a overpowering
gamer to replace Fromer.

Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
Yeah, that you're going to pay less money for him
probably less years, yes.

Speaker 7 (01:53:08):
And so getting back to so that's why was that Cole,
I don't know. I don't know because did he open ups?
I said, that's our every day. Then it goes back
to and Paratus is healthy with Paradis and Payna and
Altuve and where's he going to play?

Speaker 2 (01:53:24):
Well, nice to finally have an embarrassment of riches because
they sure as hell didn't have it this year.

Speaker 7 (01:53:28):
No question about it. And for me, you have to
go into the season painted pain his leadoff hitter.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
Yeah, he was too good.

Speaker 7 (01:53:38):
I think that's where it's going to start. You know,
as Altuve gets a little older, moving and you and
Payinia is in the prime of his career. He's starting
to hit that ground run and you're you're going to
put him at the time and he can run and
he's and he's a good base runner, and you got
to have that at the top of the lineup.

Speaker 2 (01:53:55):
That's something that I would like to see a little
bit more of next year. And would you love to
get Cam Smith where he.

Speaker 7 (01:54:01):
The power and the pop and with his speed that
he's sitting near the top like in the two hole,
that his bat controls good enough as he moves on.
But that's a paradeus spot right now in my opinion,
So or the five hole where he's driving in runs
and producing that with power, you know, and ops. So
they'll have decision to make. I hope we have the problem,
that's my point. I hope that they're looking at call

(01:54:22):
and saying, man, and Decenzo's healthy, and you start to
look around and say, damn, this guy and this guy
locked up. Yeah, and we're leaving out. We're leaving a
few players off as well. But uh, that was the
way it was when they're on their major run. Is
guess what is it? Minor league players that were worthy
of being on another major league roster couldn't get here
because there was no room for him. You'd love to
get back to that problem.

Speaker 6 (01:54:43):
He absolutely would, And hopefully this offseason goes a long
way towards trying to accomplish that John John Brandon Roger
will work you guys in. I know a lot of
you want to get in on the astros, so we'll
do that. Someone three two on two five seven ninety
against someone three two on two five seven nineties. We
can chan you here on a Monday Sean Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 7 (01:55:03):
I am a dip guy, you say, Shaun wi kind. Well,
I can tell you what kind of dip. Daisy French
onion dip and the daisy ranch dip.

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
Now I am.

Speaker 7 (01:55:13):
I'm like the finger food appetizer chips, you know, throw
a fredo in their chips to get the dips. Sometimes
to the point, on college game day or during Saturdays
and Sundays, get up with the spread. It always has
the Daisy French onion dip or the daisy ranch tip.
Was in the local grocery store over the weekend picking
it up. And why because well, the other food's fine

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and dandy later in the day, but in order to
get you through.

Speaker 2 (01:55:36):
And don't you do it on holidays too. You do
it on Labor Day, you do it on holidays.

Speaker 7 (01:55:39):
You do it sports and it's sports season. This is
this is daisy French onion dip and ranch dip. Time
of year, right and now it comes out with this
delicious French onion dip as an obsession of mine.

Speaker 2 (01:55:51):
They are delicious is homemade dip.

Speaker 7 (01:55:53):
You can add whatever you want to be You won't
need to because they got the real erbs and spices
and the other ingredients.

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
You'd find in your own kitchen. But they're doing it
for Oh.

Speaker 7 (01:56:00):
Pop on into your local grocery store and find out
what I already know and have known. And I'm grateful
to be part of this where I get to well
spend my college football Saturday and Sundays or any other
day of the week doing what really is the strength
of a meal, my chips and dips, and it's Daisy
French onion dip and daisy ranch dip. I can go

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to myfrigerator and take a picture. You'll see it now,
visualize it, and then go out and do it. Get
to your local grocery store and look for daisy French
onion dip at a grocery store near you.

Speaker 3 (01:56:35):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
John, good morning, Hey, good morning.

Speaker 8 (01:56:41):
Regarding the astros, I just want to make two points.
The first one is I do think there's a conditioning
problem with the Astros. You know, when all these pictures,
not just the Ashros, that's around the league. You know,
when they blow out their arm, that's really a sign
that the legs are going. And you know, Sean, I
remember as a kid, my dad took me to an

(01:57:03):
Orioles game, you know, against the Twins, and I remember
seeing Mike Kayar, Jim Palmer and uh Dave McNally, you know, probably.

Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
Four guys that won twenty games or more in the
same year.

Speaker 8 (01:57:16):
Yes, yeah, one of the best pitching staffs ever. They
were out in center field running wind sprints. They ran
like about thirty them. They're working up a sweat all
during batting practice. You just don't see that anymore. These guys,
you know, they know that it's in their legs. Pitching
is in the legs, and you can't you got to
keep those legs strong. And you know, everybody says, well,
they have their own routine. Well, you know that's something

(01:57:38):
you just got to monitor. And I just don't think
that's happening. It's not only with the Astros, it's all
around the league. The second thing I wanted to mention was.

Speaker 13 (01:57:49):
I think the.

Speaker 8 (01:57:49):
Astros overall, you know, started going sideways when they let
James Click walk. I think that was a huge loss.
I remember I called in when that happened. I didn't
like it because I thought Click made a great did
a great job when he succeeded Luno. And you know,
he didn't have he couldn't draft until the third round

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for the first couple of seasons, and yet he still
managed to still focus on building, made some good choices.
He also signed jord On to this one hundred and
fifteen million dollars six year contract. That was a Click
that did that, and so he did good contracts and stuff.
You know, after he left, that's when the Astros kind
of got sideways, you know they you know, that's when

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they did the abraid. And I think it was Montero.
I think they signed it down long contract and that's
when that happened. When Click was gone, Click wouldn't have
let that happen. And you know he went up to
when he went up to Toronto, and look what he's
doing up there. You know, he's vice president of Baseball
Strategy working with the GM. And so my point is
I think that the Astros, I'm trying to put this delicately,

(01:58:54):
but I mean I think they they're lacking brain power
that they used to have. You know, they used to
be really smart with Luno and with Click and all that,
and somehow they're missing that. I'm not taking a shot
at Dana Brown by saying this, but I mean somehow
that you know, I think that's a great idea. Like
what Toronto did, you know, vice parers of Baseball Strategy GM,
and they seem to work well together, but look at

(01:59:15):
what they did. I mean, they really fleeced the Astros,
you know, like in that trade for Kakuchi and and
I think they got some good long term up and comers,
you know. Jake bloss of course he you know, he
had an arm problem. But low Brafedo and Will Wagner
did okay, I mean what low Perfido did?

Speaker 4 (01:59:34):
Three?

Speaker 8 (01:59:34):
I think he bad, like over three hundred or something.

Speaker 6 (01:59:36):
He was on a John We got a run man.
He was on a yo yo between Triple A and
the major league level for much of this season. And
then Will Wagner got traded at the deadline. So it
wasn't like necessarily it was a massive fleecing. At the time,
it looked like it. But I mean you even talked
about bloss Tommy john so, I mean he missed all
of this season too, so you had to make the

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move at the time, and you wouldn't have made the
postseason last year if you don't make that move for
u Sa Kakuchi. So I think that also has to
be talked about too. With some of the good things
that Dana Brown has done. All right, we'll work out
the rest of you in here. We got a couple
of spots open someone three two, one, two, five, seven
ninety and the nine o'clock hour. Though definitely do want
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Speaker 2 (02:01:26):
Their season is done.

Speaker 6 (02:01:27):
They missed the postseason for the first time since twenty sixteen.
They won yesterday six two and Anaheim over the Angels.
They finished the regular season eighty seven and seventy five.
Texans finally get their first win of the year twenty
six nothing over the Titans at NRG Stadium and Europe
beats the US fifteen thirteen to take the Ryder Cup
at Bethpage Black talking Astros right now, if you want

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to get in Semon one three, two, one, two five
seven ninety is the number to get in and let's
fire it up in this hour with Brandon.

Speaker 2 (02:01:57):
Good morning, Brandon, Good morning.

Speaker 4 (02:02:01):
How are you guys, Marian Sean.

Speaker 2 (02:02:04):
Good morning, Brandon. How are you doing? Buddy doing okay?
I have a question for you, Dan sure.

Speaker 18 (02:02:11):
Net chair.

Speaker 14 (02:02:12):
What are we gonna do with are manager?

Speaker 2 (02:02:15):
Well, he's gonna be back. I like it. This is
not on Joe Spota for how this season went. Joe A.
Spotta is the manager of this team. He'll be back, okay.

Speaker 4 (02:02:27):
In the postseason. Net chair, are you gonna be Are
we going back to the postseason?

Speaker 6 (02:02:35):
I mean, they definitely, Brandon appreciate the call. They definitely
have the players here that can get them there. I mean,
you know, Sean, we went through the rash of injuries
and it wasn't just you know, a handful here or there.
And you know, I even heard somebody yesterday mentioned, oh, well,
you know teams that have gone through injuries before and
they've still made the playoffs, not the way that this
team did this year. Where you had your Don Alvarez

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for less than fifty games this year, you had Jeremy
Pania for what one hundred and thirty games this year
less than that, and I mean just on down the line,
and not even to mention the pitching injuries that we
went through that was crippling in both the bullpen and
with your starting rotation.

Speaker 7 (02:03:15):
All that being said, with all the injuries, they lost
the tiebreaker to keep them out of the playoffs. So
if you're asking me if I would bet on a
future's bet that the Astros are going to be in
the postseason again next year. My answer would be absolutely,
there's no way they can go through the stroke of
bad luck when it came to injuries that they'll go through.
There's no way that that can happen again next year.
I guess there's a way, but you would think in

(02:03:35):
baseball there's not so. The Garcia thing notwithstanding, which is so?
Which is such a bummer for him? Brandon answer your question,
that's an easy bet for me. Yes, they'll be back.

Speaker 2 (02:03:48):
Let's get another John in, John in downtown. On's to
weigh in. John. Good morning, Hi, y'a doing good.

Speaker 19 (02:03:56):
I want to ask Sean a question. Sean, when a quarterback,
what was your routine to warm up? You know, I'm
sure that you did a lot of stretching and a
lot of the kind of stuff, didn't you.

Speaker 7 (02:04:10):
Oh yeah, I mean, you know you're talking about off
season routeam or on the day of a game.

Speaker 2 (02:04:16):
Well, the day of the game, my routine was exactly
the same.

Speaker 7 (02:04:19):
I you know, wake up at a certain time, get
the norm of the breakfast that you would eat the
same thing normally every week with the team mail, and
you get to the stadium a few hours early and
go through the plan, the normal routine that I had,
you know, with a stretching, get ankles, tape, stretching, going
out at a certain time in the field and doing
your job, getting your stretched there, then going through team stretch,

(02:04:41):
warming up the same way every week. Yeah, I go
through your routine. So when the game started, you ready
to go. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (02:04:46):
Yeah. Everybody's got a routine and I stuck to mine
every day.

Speaker 19 (02:04:50):
Yeah, I want to I'll go back to the Astros now.
You know, we were, you know, excited. You know, they came,
Rangers came into town, they swept them. But in between
there when Seattle came in here took care of business. Boy,
that was quite a drop.

Speaker 6 (02:05:09):
You know.

Speaker 19 (02:05:10):
You take off your high enthusiasm, you know, and go
up to to play the athletics and this is the
stellar team. You know, there's the bottom of the pile.
And they went two out of three. Uh what went wrong?
And then you know they go to Los Angeles, they

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lose the first one, they salvage the next two. But
in between there and if they should if they would
have won you know, two these two or three games,
they would have made the playoffs, and that's a fact
we don't understand. We don't understand what went wrong.

Speaker 7 (02:05:50):
You know, well the man came in, the Mariners came in,
and you know, they played better. Appreciate it, John, Thanks John,
they played better. To me, it felt awfully deflating when
they got swept. Well, you were deflated when you got swept.

Speaker 6 (02:06:03):
But then this final week right here, we said four
and two, maybe even five and one is what you're
going to need.

Speaker 2 (02:06:09):
You went three and three.

Speaker 7 (02:06:10):
Yeah, and you can't against like remember we said last
week said be careful that they're dangerous teams that you're
playing like an Oakland team that really they just they
got some young players that'll free swing in and get
after it.

Speaker 2 (02:06:20):
Man, and they did.

Speaker 7 (02:06:21):
That's exactly right, and you go in and deal with them.
And I just like you let teams like that hang
around and have a reason to eliminate you. It'll happen.
It happens in every sport. Let average teams hang around,
and they will they will make it miserable. And you
got to put them away quickly, and they just couldn't
do it. And I think it felt like they were

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deflated when the Mariners came in and kick there. I say,
Manner's just a better team that you used to go
on and win that game Friday night. We're talking about
getting ready for the postseason. There no doubt, and it wouldn't.
You didn't need three wins, just one or two more.
One more gets them in.

Speaker 2 (02:06:54):
Ye.

Speaker 7 (02:06:55):
So unfortunately lost the key one of the good to
the to the Angels, and they let Oakland take care
of their business a couple of times, and they were
hammered by Seattle, which wasn't fun.

Speaker 2 (02:07:07):
And at that point in time.

Speaker 7 (02:07:08):
Now you put pressure on yourself the last six games
to have to play damn near perfect baseball, and they
weren't good enough this year to play perfect baseball for
five or six in.

Speaker 2 (02:07:17):
A row, not even close. Roger wants to weigh in, Roger,
good morning.

Speaker 17 (02:07:21):
Good morning, settles, real quicker. I'm not going to play
the game when your depth becomes the mainstay of your
offense and the pitching staff, you're you're already you know,
put yourself in a bad position. We just didn't have
the horses. I think next year we need to see
you if you can match our player development, on our

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on our medical staff and our training staff. That would
be really nice to be that they can match, they
can match talent on that side, I think it needs
a good shape. That being said, you do need, either
by way of the agency or player development, need to
get a power that a real tree power, that stumper
and you know that lineup. And I'm not talking about Walker.

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Walker is a guy who can delivers in spurts that
you know he's he's a good pertect the glove. We
need a stumper. We also need a starting pitcher next year.
Three agency or sad development, one of those things that happen.
All right, guys, that's all we got.

Speaker 6 (02:08:20):
Yeah, I appreciate it, Roger. I mean I would say
that you do have that power bat. His name's Jordan Alvarez.
And again you had him for forty six games this year,
so give him time to rest, let the ankle heal up,
and then hopefully next year you're able to see Jordan
be what we know that he can be, and we
have seen him be in an Astros uniform. So I mean,

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that's a guy that you already have here. You don't
have to go out and get one guy that to
me is non negotiable that I want back next year.
You need Victor Carrottini in this clubhouse, and you need
Victor Carrottini on this team. And I'd like to see
Victor Carrottini catch more next year than he did because
you saw it looked like with JR.

Speaker 2 (02:09:01):
Diaz.

Speaker 7 (02:09:01):
You know, I think he's money. So I there's a
lot of teams, so the problem is going to keep
him in telling me he's a backup? Is he a
free agent?

Speaker 18 (02:09:10):
Right?

Speaker 5 (02:09:11):
He is?

Speaker 2 (02:09:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:09:13):
You uh take a look at that and you say, okay,
back up for us, starter for fifteen other teams. You're
gonna have to probably overpay to keep him. And I
don't know, considering you know, you're always looking for kid.
It's a premium position, and the guy's versatile. My first
place by catcher can DH for it, and he's money

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at the plate and he plays good defense. To me, yeah,
I would love to keep him, but you're gonna have
to overpay because there's gonna be somebody out there saying
we want Victor Carotten as our starting catcher.

Speaker 6 (02:09:44):
Well, and I mean, you saw what he was able
to do in the Times the last couple of years,
and he was one of the most valuable hits.

Speaker 2 (02:09:50):
I trust him oh, and like unbelievably trust him.

Speaker 19 (02:09:54):
I do.

Speaker 2 (02:09:55):
I trust him.

Speaker 7 (02:09:56):
I actually think, over the course, if he was a
five hundred at bat guy, I think you're you know,
you're talking about a guy who would be become I
don't know about a household name. Maybe I don't know,
but I got news for your fans, and other ballparks
would know who he is.

Speaker 6 (02:10:11):
Catchers that hit well and can handle a pitching staff, well,
those are guys that usually make it.

Speaker 7 (02:10:16):
I think he's underrated nationally, and I think here locally
we realize how valuable he is. I would overpay to
keep him because I think he is really really good.
But as a free agent, he's somebody's gonna Victor Carrottini
wants to start, and I wish I would not blame
him for leaving to go in somewhere to say, hell, yeah,
you come play for us every day.

Speaker 2 (02:10:34):
Yeah, I think that. I think it's gonna be a
tough keep.

Speaker 18 (02:10:37):
I do.

Speaker 7 (02:10:38):
But wouldn't you consider leaving if you're gonna go play
someone because you're gonna You ain't telling me that thirty
teams out there got better catchered.

Speaker 2 (02:10:45):
Than this guy.

Speaker 6 (02:10:46):
I wouldn't think so Chris in Cyprus wants to win
and Chris, good morning.

Speaker 14 (02:10:51):
He uh, good morning.

Speaker 18 (02:10:53):
First, I think Jake Myz is fast enough and he's
earned the right to actually be batting in the top
of the lineup. Paridis's patient enough to fulfill that DH spot.
If you move to a bay down to the bottom
of the line up with his base running, especially on

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the decline, I think the situation will get a little
bit better by giving Myers a chance to bat in
the top of the lineup and then heading to the
training staff. We got more elbow injuries and recurring elbow
injuries than anybody else in the league. I don't know
what is going on. Is it too many breaking balls,
is it too many speed fluctuations. I don't know what

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it is, but it's just happening to us more often
than not. And I don't want to harp on this
because I know what I'm gonna say. But we have
been on the decline, man, since danel Brown's been here,
So I'm gonna hang up the list.

Speaker 7 (02:11:51):
Hey, real quick, real quick, Chris, what's your biggest problem today?
I end to know and he comes on here, but
we you know, we can be critical and also complimentary.
It's it's fair, it's not first. So what is your
biggest problem with Dana Brown.

Speaker 18 (02:12:04):
He's supposed to be an excellent, excellent, excellent scout. This
is why he was here, this is why we brought
him here, and I just haven't seen it. And even
with Kakuchi dial last year, we got him for the
playoffs and we pitched framber.

Speaker 4 (02:12:17):
Bro and he blew up in the third d.

Speaker 18 (02:12:20):
He's just SADKOCHI should have started. This is last year,
but he should have at least played one game against Detroit.

Speaker 14 (02:12:27):
Doesn't make any sense, and then you let him go.

Speaker 6 (02:12:31):
Appreciate the call. I disagree with the talent evaluation. I think,
if anything, this team was competitive this year because of
his evaluation.

Speaker 7 (02:12:39):
I think I think a lot, and I understand his
people's frustration. Dan, I think he actually did a good
job because had they had not built a roster of
depth and understanding minor leagues and when the guy had
to come up and play him and knowing this team
wouldn't have won eighty games with.

Speaker 2 (02:12:57):
All the injuries.

Speaker 6 (02:12:58):
Well, I mean you can talk about the trade deadline.
I mean, obviously Jesus Sanchez was a bad acquisition. You
didn't give up much to get him, but it didn't
work out. You didn't really get to see much of Harmoniaeus,
so not really sure what you get with him. And
then Carlos Korea. He was good, the power wasn't really there.

Speaker 7 (02:13:16):
Well, there's not one soul though that's going to complain
that Korea came back. They were all begging for him
to come back, so they can.

Speaker 2 (02:13:22):
You can't. You're not not call her.

Speaker 7 (02:13:24):
But you can't have it both ways, right, I mean,
you want to Cray back and he I think Cray
over the course of the season still gives you a
valuable play.

Speaker 2 (02:13:31):
I do, But like I'm look at guys like Steven Okert.
The guys found that weren't They weren't supposed.

Speaker 7 (02:13:38):
To giving aj blue Ball a chance. So I think
he's done a nice I don't think. I think he's
part of the reason we hung in there, considering his
eye for talent. Now they say you're gonna miss on some,
you just are. You're you're going to miss on some.
But I thought he did a nice job of at
least getting it giving us a look at some guys

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say Dan, Okay, we can go some of the pitching
and hater did work out from my hater, you need him,
so he did a lot of good things.

Speaker 2 (02:14:08):
You're not gonna hit him all.

Speaker 7 (02:14:09):
But I thought his talent evaluation on the depth wise
to get guys to be able to play was more
than sufficient and pretty damn good to be honest with you.

Speaker 6 (02:14:18):
All right, Chris and Ryan, we'll close it out Astro's
discussion with you guys, because we do need to get
into the Texans, so we will do that here in
the nine o'clock hour. But also to one more Astros note,
hear this all the time about Jim Crane in the
front office at the Astros. Well, I think there is
some strong numbers to a point that, yeah, you're disagreed with,
we'll talk about it right here. It is the Shawn

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Salisbury Show on a Monday Sports Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 3 (02:14:45):
Let the celebration start or Sean Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (02:14:49):
It's a Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 6 (02:14:52):
The social one of them is, I guess, just like
the British Astros fan we have here, there is also
a British Tigers fan. And to add insult to injury,
they posted the Caleb ort walk off walk in extra
innings in that game up in Detroit, second game of
that series, and goes, let's call it what it is.

Speaker 2 (02:15:13):
This is what got us into the postseason. And it's
just like, hmm, that's a little deep.

Speaker 20 (02:15:21):
It does.

Speaker 6 (02:15:22):
But here's another one too. This is a guy that
usually has drawn the ire of Astros Twitter. It's this
kid named Michael Beer. And he pointed out that for
the top ten teams owning the largest payrolls in baseball
missed the postseason, the Mets, which, by the way, Gary
Cohen in that broadcast team, they did not have a
good week last week. And Ron Darling yesterday upset about

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the picture I guess that the Miami Marlins were taking
where he was like, oh man, this is their World Series.
It's like, well, they knocked you out the postseason, so yeah,
I guess it was a little bit something for them.
And then let's also factor in that you have the
second highest payroll in all of baseball one hundred and
forty one million, The team with the most they barely got.

Speaker 2 (02:16:03):
In as a wild card.

Speaker 6 (02:16:04):
The team that I would have to believe is third,
because I'm sure the Yankees are in there. They barely
got in as a wild card. They were one of
the better teams in baseball.

Speaker 7 (02:16:13):
But I remember the Giants, I mean the the the
Mets were gonna do their thing, and the Dodgers were
supposed to win one hundred and ten games. They were
supposed to be the best, not one of the best,
in their stay. They won the division, but they're playing
in the wildcard and they were barely even better than
you were. And by the way, the Astros to kind
of you know, oh, Jim Crane's cheap. The Astros are cheap.

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The Astros had a two hundred and thirty two million
dollars payroll this year. They was six most in baseball
and they missed the postseason. The Rangers seventh, and then
the Braves also too, So it's not like the Astros
are alone in this in terms of oh, the decline
is so steep, and like I even saw somebody yesterday
say this reminds me of the twenty eight team, and

(02:16:55):
it's like, I get what you're saying, but I also
think that smarter, savvier baseball decisions are going to be
made to avoid going into the abyss that you went
into for those years. Afterwards, we'll get to the cars,
But do you think and I've been mulling this over.
Do you think we'll ever change the model of how

(02:17:16):
we pay players here?

Speaker 6 (02:17:18):
Maybe here's one that I would start with. Stop giving
mid thirty year old guys these long term deals. I
get what you think that they have, but like, what
are you doing?

Speaker 2 (02:17:28):
And what about the model of sign your own guys?

Speaker 7 (02:17:31):
What about the model of maybe paying huge money to
a free agent that you think can come in and help.

Speaker 6 (02:17:36):
Well, I mean you're over too, at least at first, Bait. Well,
no he's not because he did leave success. He led
your team and home runs in RBI, so that's got
to be counted for something. So, yes, that was harsh.
I'll reteam Hey and a Bray you aren't even in
the same league. No good production wise, And I know Bray.

Speaker 2 (02:17:54):
You was a guy that his first year came on
later in the season, Beef.

Speaker 7 (02:17:58):
It's always been the pattern of his career. Sure, but
Christian Walker was every bit serviceable and then some a little.
When you hit twenty you know, twenty six home runs
and drive in eighty eight, that's not just a guy.

Speaker 2 (02:18:12):
That's a guy.

Speaker 7 (02:18:12):
That's that's you got to be, that's well thought of.
In the middle of a lineup. I listen, we expected
more average. But then again, you can't be mad at
the batting average if you're telling me bad in average
doesn't matter anymore. I don't believe that number at all.
Batting average tells me you're on base, which gives me
a better chance to have We want table setters, yet

(02:18:33):
we don't care about average. We're mad when we love
when somebody walks, but we're not mad when they don't
get on base. Don't care about average. It's just if, bob,
the fact that we, oh, well, it's not a good metric.
I don't understand that because you're standing on base when
your batting average is good. Now, if you want to
talk to me about the timing of hits and when
they come home runs getting on base, okay, I get

(02:18:55):
all that. But Christian Walker was more than just serviceable
at first base. He just had some bad at bats
under times when we needed runs driven in the timing
of his bad at bats came at the wrong time.

Speaker 2 (02:19:06):
There you go, yeah, no, and that's and that it
had a little bit.

Speaker 7 (02:19:09):
I just wonder if they'll ever get up where you say, like,
like you mentioned, Alonzo's not coming here, but My point
is you get a guy like that or an outfit
that you say, man, he's twenty nine, and we may
have to pay him. But then do you think, well,
they would have done that with Kyle Tucker. Right, So
the model and the model has worked. You may not
like it because sometimes but you're probably gonna have to
overpay to get some pitching. No, you will, and I could,

(02:19:30):
and Dylan Cease is a good option.

Speaker 2 (02:19:33):
And I think one that is going. I'll go ahead.

Speaker 6 (02:19:36):
You know, gut feelings that they do on the Matt
Thomas Show. So we'll do a Sean Salisbury show, gut
feeling Dylan ceases an astroid twenty six.

Speaker 7 (02:19:44):
It's been we were two years into when he was
in Chicago and before he got San Diego, when he's
in Sanago. Of like, I mean to two years in
a row of how we getting that guy? Yeah, and
so we'll see if a third pays off. They're gonna
find a way. We'll work in Chris here on the
phone lines, Chris, good morning.

Speaker 2 (02:20:02):
Good morning.

Speaker 9 (02:20:02):
Well, as Jim More used to say, there's a lot
of wood I could as should have gone on this morning,
I will say I'm in agreement with you. I think
Cease is an astro. I'd be surprised if he's not.
I will say I think they need to sign a
second starting pitcher as well. As we saw this year,
the model of relying on those guys quote unquote coming

(02:20:27):
back doesn't necessarily play out the way you think it's
going to play out. I think of all of them
that came back, the only one that really looks like
he's serviceable is Javier with McCullers. In a five person rotation,
he's like my number six. I think I'd trod out
JP Frantz before i'd trot out mccullors. I also think that,

(02:20:48):
you know, when it comes to Dana Brown and Joe A. Spada,
I think I found the answer to their problems. Like
I was on the twitters and the facebooks, and there
are all these experts there, like they need to consult
these guys, there are literally hundreds of them. I think
that's the answer to their problems. But seriously, from the

(02:21:13):
from the stands, that's right. I don't think there's that
much wrong with their starting lineup. I think that the
three guys in Pena, Uh, jord On and Parades that
really jump started our offense were out for extended periods
and a lot of times when it mattered the most.
I also think on that uh kind of untradeable untouchable list,

(02:21:37):
I think you put Korea there for two reasons. Number one,
dude has a no trade clause in his contract, hence
how we got him. And number two, I don't think
that crane and we know that's crane that brought him back,
brought him back to move him in the offseason.

Speaker 2 (02:21:52):
He's not going anywhere. I think, yeah, he's not going anywhere. Trade.
Even if he agreed to trade, he wouldn't go anywhere.

Speaker 9 (02:21:59):
I think a year of his leadership, a full year
of his leadership in the locker room, is going to
play out differently than him coming back, you know, with
two months left in the season. Three months left in
the season. But you know what, I'll check in with
you guys again when there's a signing, and right around
spring training with my daughter and I hop on that
plane to go to West Palm.

Speaker 7 (02:22:20):
All right, good daddy donald trip.

Speaker 2 (02:22:26):
Yeah, fun and look, it'll be here before we know it.

Speaker 6 (02:22:29):
Me and you everybody else will be up at DIYK
in Park for fan fest and then you're gonna plane
can say, oh, hey, pictures and catchers are showing up spring.

Speaker 7 (02:22:37):
Okay, yeah, cool, be ready for spring training. Here we go,
just a little bit longer time to get there this time.
All right, we'll close out the Astros conversation with Ryan
and Montgomery.

Speaker 2 (02:22:46):
Ryan, good morning, fellows, Good.

Speaker 4 (02:22:51):
Good.

Speaker 18 (02:22:52):
That's good to hear. Well.

Speaker 21 (02:22:53):
I have a thing about Victor Carrottini, Right, you want
to keep Victor Carrottini. I think we know where I'm
gonna go with it. Why don't we just trade somebody
away before they signed somewhere else and we get nothing?
Isn't the guy we want behind the plate? You're not
gonna trade yourd on so he's not gonna be at
pH You can put him at first if you think

(02:23:15):
you can get something for Christian Walker, but long term,
if you want a better catcher and a switch hitter,
I don't see why you don't just trade Diaz and
put him in a package for seats or something like
that and make Cartini your starting catcher. I mean, am
I crazy?

Speaker 5 (02:23:31):
No?

Speaker 21 (02:23:31):
Or am I?

Speaker 1 (02:23:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (02:23:34):
I'm just making sure because a lot of my friends
think I'm outside, like I'm outside my mind. But I
would say Hey, Baylon Jinder. Now while his stock's high, Hey,
here's a guy he hits good two hundred two fifty
six average seventy seven RBIs why not?

Speaker 8 (02:23:50):
Right?

Speaker 21 (02:23:50):
So maybe maybe just hey, we're gonna put Carotini starter.
I just want your opinions on that, and I'm gonna
hang up and listen.

Speaker 10 (02:23:58):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (02:23:59):
Ryan.

Speaker 7 (02:23:59):
I don't think that's I don't think you're crazy. I
don't think it's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (02:24:03):
But I'm with you.

Speaker 7 (02:24:04):
I'm taking calls, and Cease is an unrestricted free agent.
But I mean that that again gets back to your
convers trade for Cease, That's what you're saying. So I mean,
but that's again the conversation we had earlier. Is nobody's untouchable. Yeah,
I'm taking calls on him. There, there's no question about it.

Speaker 2 (02:24:19):
There's okay.

Speaker 7 (02:24:20):
And if you if you did trade him, Victor Carrotine
would want to resign him and be the catcher, There's
no question.

Speaker 2 (02:24:24):
But I don't think that. I don't think it's going
to happen, Ryan.

Speaker 7 (02:24:27):
I think because you remember Dane Brown on the show
two years, last year and before, not this past season,
the season before, when carrot When when Jiner became the guy.
He said, that's our catcher of the future. Well, Corey
Lee was before him, and you're you're always but catcher
the future. Maybe there's some of you. He's at a
you know, you're a premium a hitting catcher. He's got
to continue to prove defensively and throwing runners out. Got

(02:24:49):
a little bit better out of season went on, and
we know he can hit. He's going to have to
be more disciplined. But I think I think you listen
to anything. I think the d is still going to
be here. But I don't think that's crazy Ryan for
you to say that, Well, what if somebody offer a
package and we go get somebody.

Speaker 2 (02:25:04):
I think that's viable. And I'm with you.

Speaker 7 (02:25:06):
I'm actually my patience is running a little bit. Then
I didn't think this was at the trade deadline. I
wasn't sure. I wasn't sure this was a World Series
team with all the injuries. And then you look ahead
at your model, knowing what Fromer was going to get.
We keep letting guys go at the during free agency
when a premium left hander would have got you a haul,

(02:25:30):
knowing you're not going to sign him. You can't sign him,
it's going to be too much money and not knowing
if quite frankly, the emotional stability is going to be
there on a regular basis. So that's if I have
one quond that bothers me about that is but I
know the Astros. The great thing about the Astros is
that they always believe they're all in and got a
chance to win a World Series.

Speaker 2 (02:25:50):
And I love that belief.

Speaker 7 (02:25:51):
But there's part of me that thought with all these injuries,
and maybe with all the injuries you just had to
have the picture because well you needed bodies. But sometimes
you just have to You just have to make hard decisions.
And no one, don't you think at the midway point
of the season they knew that Fromer's not coming back here. Yeah,
I just there's a part of me that honestly believes it.
I don't think you can keep letting think about the

(02:26:13):
halls you would have got for Bregman and Fromber the
last two ess.

Speaker 2 (02:26:17):
I know, hindsights, it gives you a great vision.

Speaker 7 (02:26:20):
But that's the one thing that I would consider even
better is even more if I know that I'm not
going to get out, And I think a lot of
us felt that Bregman wasn't going to.

Speaker 2 (02:26:28):
Be back here.

Speaker 7 (02:26:29):
Well, I mean, you learned your lesson with Kyle Tucker.
That's why you did it. That's right, So I to me,
I think you do miss an opportunity. Think about the
hall for both those guys you would have got had
you have made the decision to know that they're not
going to be here or you weren't going to pay,
and what they were going to be worth in their mind, Dude,
you got some you got, you got a much deeper roster.

Speaker 2 (02:26:50):
So I love their belief that they can go win it.

Speaker 7 (02:26:52):
But I also the thing that bothers me is that
I never have even thought Fromber was going to be
a pitcher here in twenty twenty six at any point
in time, twenty five premium left hander. And also I'm
not sure if you know you can count on them
at times for a full season stuff. Yes, emotions. No,
we'll talk about that too as we get further into
the off season. But do you want to get into

(02:27:14):
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interesting decision yesterday, one that I thought was going to
be later in his tenure. We'll discuss that as it
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For the Sean Salisbury Show. Continued that Slim Reaper guy
is that what they call him, you know, the Kevin
Durant guy. Yeah, and he's not bad, is he?

Speaker 2 (02:29:51):
So I'm not worried about him putting a ball in
a basket. No, definitely not.

Speaker 6 (02:29:54):
So we'll be all Rockets today from Rockets Media Day,
happening again over the SO ten to two The Matt
Thomas Show with Ross, We've been talking tons of strows because, well,
for the first time since twenty sixteen, we're talking about
a team that's not in the postseason. They finished the
year eighty seven and seventy five. They won yesterday six
to two, but Texans they get a twenty six to

(02:30:15):
nothing win over the Titans, and man twofold frustrating cam
Ward in the game, but then also after the game
where he was taking shots at himself, upset with.

Speaker 2 (02:30:27):
How they play like this kid man. Yeah, he he
wasn't holding back whatsoever.

Speaker 7 (02:30:32):
And I love the demands he's putting on his team
and the accountability. I think he's gonna be a good player.
They just got to build some around him. But you know,
he's got to get some things right. And he's young,
but I think he says and does the right things.

Speaker 10 (02:30:46):
I do.

Speaker 2 (02:30:47):
I like him.

Speaker 7 (02:30:48):
They're just done it. They're just overmatched. The Texans are
a far better team. And I don't even think the
Texans played great football yesterday offensively defenses, it just continues
to get better and as long as they don't get misstackles.

Speaker 2 (02:30:58):
I was a little concerned early on.

Speaker 7 (02:31:01):
With the way they were running the football, you know,
the I mean missing some tack They're going to have
to shore that up a bit and be a little
more sound defensively on making tackles. But anytime you pitch
a shout out in an NFL game, it's pretty impressive.
And I do think that the Texans have a long
way to go offensively. But you saw flashes CJ looked
more like CJ. The offensive line's got to decipher or

(02:31:22):
understanding protections. They just do the in the backs in
the backfield. That's a major weakness right now. But they
did run the ball with some physicality yesterday was which
what I liked, and forced more turnovers again which I
like too.

Speaker 6 (02:31:33):
Did you notice the head coach did not have a
play sheet in front of them? Did you notice that
yesterday Demiko Ryants giving up play calling duties to focus
on the overall operation. Matt Burke calling the defense yesterday, Well, for.

Speaker 7 (02:31:47):
Me, you have to be a special character, especially when
you're it's your first head coaching job.

Speaker 2 (02:31:56):
You got to come in and win every You got
to handle it all.

Speaker 7 (02:31:59):
You've got to be able to go up down the
sidelines and get into the offensive because maybe the defensive
coordinator and play caller, what do you got to do
when the offense is on the field. You're talking to
your defensive guys and you're making sure when you want
to be over there, and you don't want to meddle,
but you got to be involved.

Speaker 2 (02:32:15):
I was loved it.

Speaker 7 (02:32:15):
Danny Green never had a play sheet in front of
him and offensive offense, defense, defense. You don't do your job,
somebody else will. It's pretty simple, and here's our plan.
What we're going talk during the week here's what we're
our approach to this team.

Speaker 2 (02:32:26):
Can I like it?

Speaker 7 (02:32:26):
And if you want something certain and done, walk by
and tell the coordinator pressure them damn defense, and we'll
pressure them. You call whatever defense you want, but make
sure it's pressure offense. Hey, listen, I want you run
the football the next place, third and one. Give me
your best run, like Danny did. I've told you that
story before, Brian Billick, you do it now. They may
have differences on well, Brian will You'll do what the
head coach tells you. And I think you need to
be immersed. Now you've been in the league as long

(02:32:48):
as Andy Reid, best play caller on the planet. Guess what,
then you can handle both. But early on you're trying
to get a handle of your team. I think it's
a wise move I do. If you want to be
defensive coordinator, early on state defense coordinator, you're the head coach,
and I think it's why. So you get a handle
on all three phases. And right now, the defense is
I don't want to say just self sufficient, but they're

(02:33:09):
pretty damn good. And if Burke and him can finish
each other sentences, then you trust him. Then you go
and that's a sign of that you empowered him. Say okay,
now I'm at the believability point. He can always grab
it back if he wants it. But see if he
can do it. He pitched a shutout yesterday. That's a
good start. Now get over to the offensive side and
with a rookie play caller and make sure not meddling.
You got to let him do a thing. But it's okay.

(02:33:30):
As head coach suggestions and I always say, find out
how you if you're a defensive offensive coach, how.

Speaker 2 (02:33:36):
Would Demiko see? I would be asking Demiko Ryans every week.
Now maybe they do.

Speaker 7 (02:33:41):
I would say, how would you attack my offense? I
would ask him how would your defense to pitch another shoutout?
How would you attack my offense? Talking to Kayley, here's
how I'd attack him.

Speaker 2 (02:33:51):
Good.

Speaker 7 (02:33:51):
Well, then you're a smart defensive coordinator. You've done it before.
I would imagine that's what what Tennessee would like to
do too. If they're personnel matched up. Well, they got
Nico call and started early. They ran the football effectively,
but their protections and deciphering pass protections, and I still
think there's an expansion of the passing game that's got
to happen. But yesterday was a better watch. It's still

(02:34:15):
and it should because the Tennessee Titans are a bad
football team and you're supposed to shut them out and
you're supposed to kick their ass, and they did.

Speaker 6 (02:34:21):
You got twenty first downs in the game yesterday, ten
of them by the run, nine of them by the pass.

Speaker 7 (02:34:27):
One ballots yesterday, Dan, I loved the balance. That was
the best thing about yesterday. Get your stars the ball
early and then hit a couple of big plays. And
you know what when you can force a quarterback to
force a throw and you get the pick six and
you catch it. I mean not to pick six, but
to pick by Stingley and flip field position. It's another way.
It started slow. Two miss field goals by Tennessee almost

(02:34:49):
if they make those, you never know how you're feeling
about do you tighten up as a play caller. They
did enough obviously defensively, and did enough offensively, but they
know if they're going to and listen, Jacksonville won again.

Speaker 2 (02:35:00):
They got after it defensively.

Speaker 7 (02:35:02):
They're playing better football than I think any of us
thought they would with a rookie head coach and the
Colts ran into a good team yesterday and almost had
them until a late win.

Speaker 2 (02:35:10):
By the Rams.

Speaker 7 (02:35:11):
So this division's shaping up to be tougher sans the
Tennessee Titans, and the Texans offense is going to have
to prove if they can ever get up where there
where we're talking about the Texans offense, like we talked
about the defense, then it's what I thought. You go
on and win the division, but you're already in a
chase mode and it's not going to.

Speaker 2 (02:35:28):
Get any easier.

Speaker 18 (02:35:29):
Yeap.

Speaker 6 (02:35:29):
Jacksonville won again yesterday too, So that's another team that
you got to be able to try to keep pace with.
Thirty five runs to the twenty eight passes yesterday too,
so a little.

Speaker 2 (02:35:40):
Bit more bounce?

Speaker 7 (02:35:41):
Did they run more than the other team did? Look
at the numbers again, I'll say eighty percent or better.
The teams that won in the NFL yes day, rushing
attempts will be on your side.

Speaker 6 (02:35:51):
Thirty five to the eighteen for Tennessee and well you
saw the scoreboard, twenty six to nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:35:57):
Texans damn near doubled them up.

Speaker 6 (02:35:59):
And another key for the Texans offensively I think might
have been unlocked yesterday do we see more trust out
of this guy?

Speaker 2 (02:36:05):
We'll talk about that. You want to join in someone?

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Speaker 6 (02:37:51):
I mean, you know we're not going to be able
to hear Todd Kallis say, you know he got them
or there's a base hit Jose Jose l tuve.

Speaker 2 (02:38:02):
But am I to believe we have Todd Kallis on
a mobile? Yeah, it sounds like it. It might be.
It could be it is. Yeah, is it TK on
a mobile?

Speaker 10 (02:38:10):
Is that you.

Speaker 8 (02:38:12):
You know Sean and Dan.

Speaker 20 (02:38:14):
I don't know if you guys saw, but the Ashos
got eliminated from playoff contention over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:38:18):
We did TK. Sorry man, TK on a mobile, shall
I say?

Speaker 10 (02:38:22):
Now?

Speaker 20 (02:38:23):
It's a bummer and hovel Tube has got a little
planner fascy itis that he's gonna have to get fixed
in the off season.

Speaker 2 (02:38:30):
Blumber, he was a gamer though, TKM he was a gamer.
I mean he gave it a go. Josel.

Speaker 20 (02:38:39):
Hovel Tuve is a gamer. He's one of the greatest
astros players of all time. But my goodness, Blummer, he
cannot steal bags. He's a bad baits runner. And you
know you're only as strong as your weakest length.

Speaker 7 (02:38:51):
Blumber, Well, you know, I mean c KM, Man, I'm
not so sure that I can, you know, handle his
negativity from you?

Speaker 2 (02:38:57):
Man?

Speaker 10 (02:38:58):
Is this what you know?

Speaker 2 (02:38:59):
All these years of host season baseball has done you?

Speaker 10 (02:39:02):
Geez?

Speaker 20 (02:39:03):
You know you know, Sean, Sean, let me ask Sean
a question.

Speaker 1 (02:39:07):
You know, Hove out Tub.

Speaker 20 (02:39:09):
You know he's not from Escandido, but I'll tell you what.
He's tough as nails. And my question is, Sean, is
if if you're whoal touve and you get eliminated from
the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (02:39:23):
Should you cry because it happened or cry because it's over?

Speaker 2 (02:39:28):
I mean, TKM has a question for you. That's the
music player TK. Great stuff.

Speaker 7 (02:39:32):
Man, Well I'll tell you about jose Lt. First of all,
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I cry because you know what, because it was a
good effort.

Speaker 2 (02:39:43):
Is that what he said?

Speaker 7 (02:39:44):
Cry because it's over, A cry because you tried, right,
I'm gonna say, because it happens. The tears, the tears
of joy that it's over, because you're looking forward to
next year. Everybody, get healthy. Great stuff by TK Mobileye,
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know who that is. We love you, buddy, We miss
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Speaker 6 (02:40:13):
Man, there you go, there you go, all right, He's
Sean Triple, Emmanuel Elmore, Dan Matthews again The Matt Thomas
Show with Ross Live from Toyota Center.

Speaker 2 (02:40:22):
Rockets Media Day have that idiot that just called it
is the best. It's the best, Eh, Todd Callous on
a mobile. There you go, and we know who that
more that. There we go. Great stuff.

Speaker 6 (02:40:33):
We'll talk to you in twenty hours right here, Shawn
Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety