All Episodes

October 3, 2025 • 168 mins
Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hot, Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (00:11):
Salisbury to usc Troup's longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dan Matthews us. This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 5 (00:23):
Mike Dingler way back at the wall and.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
It is gone.

Speaker 5 (00:30):
Dylan Dingler grew up just down the road in Maslin,
Ohio as an Indians.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
And Guardian fan.

Speaker 5 (00:38):
He has kivin the team from Michigan two to one lane.
So now the Tigers went out away from victory in
a remarkable season of comebacks. The Guardians are down to
their final strike. Schneman rolls it down the first, tarkleson
himself and the Detroit Tigers are on today a very.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Can lay Division series. Its times about a deep right field.
Michael Push goodbye.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
They ain't been waiting since the second. But that swing
as bus clears.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
The ivy and it's three nothing.

Speaker 7 (01:18):
Chicagos first Kase sliding grenade in the center. Pete Charmstrong
on a three hit day makes the cakes. The Chicago
Drugs are gonna hit up ninety four. They went on
to Milwaukee and the National League Division Series.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
It comes on to the mound in the eighth of
eleven strankougs.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
This season began for him in double A D dozen
for Slittler.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
As Gonzales is gone, Yoshida will take second.

Speaker 8 (01:53):
This one is popped up nicmahon and the Yankees have
completed step on their way back to a World Series.
There's a lot of smiling and you can see one
of the back page headlines just saying, holy swim.

Speaker 9 (02:17):
Oh well, postseason baseball is still fun, even if it
is without the Astros.

Speaker 10 (02:23):
Start.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Sorry, Sean, but.

Speaker 9 (02:24):
With that we say away we go. Good morning here
on the Sean Salisbury Show. You just heard it right there, ESPN, ABC,
all the calls alike, what you got Sean McDonough, who,
by the way, is is there anybody more solid than
that guy?

Speaker 1 (02:38):
At every sport? Great hockey, great at football, He can
be awesome at baseball. Remember he used to be a
red he used to call it red Sox. Yeah, so
there's nothing McDonough can't do. I think he's the most underappreciated,
underrated play by play guy in the entire world.

Speaker 9 (02:57):
I mean, he's just I think the thing is with him,
there's not a lot of flash to him. He does
the job, he does it incredibly well. But I mean,
I've said this before and I'll just say it. You know, Oh,
don't criticize people in the industry. Give me him a
thousand times before you give me Joe test the tour.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Oh yeah, test great guy guy, he really is. He
has his strengths that that's where you're you're looking at.
That's a completely different category.

Speaker 9 (03:23):
Just you just wish that somebody along the way with
tests would be like, hey, look man, not exactly.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Not every situation needs the high fastball, right. And he's
a nickname guy. Play by play guy can't be the
nickname guy.

Speaker 9 (03:38):
Like when I heard he was gonna go to WWE,
I was like, that's per perfect, right, that's him. Listen,
Joe's a great guy, and he's really good and versatile
and good. But when it comes to just play by play,
listen McDonough has a perfect amount of energy.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
He's bright as could be. He can do any sport.
He will challenge this if if his analysts were to
say something, he say, well, yes he will. He doesn't
just let him off the hook. You know. The guy
is his game analyst and he's not afraid to criticize.
Rep makes a bad call because I don't I don't
understand this call, and he's looking for an explanation. He

(04:13):
is fantastic, understated. I love him. He's always been good
to me. I think he's great, and I love playoff baseball,
and he's perfect for the energy part of it because
he knows when to allow he's very good at allowing
them to tell the story of the crowd. And he's
a great he knows how to build the drama without
it's in the second and and it's it's to one

(04:35):
to nothing. We got a long way to go, somebody.
You know, it was just a guy hit a base
hit to right field, drove him in. But the story, yes,
he just kind of lets it happen and he doesn't
go overboard. This is a first thing. He's slow down.
There's nine of them left and in football, same way.
I think he's absolutely brilliant at his job. And he
is completely underrated, underrated, and we're getting some good baseball Dan,

(04:59):
And I know you said so, but there was a
point time I took my hat off and tipped it.
You know, I'm I'm a pacer when the Red Sox
are playing, and that young kid early you sent me
the message last night. This kid's got some stones, right,
and he does. If you could feel the ground ball
low and if you could catch a routine little league

(05:19):
fly ball in right field, maybe it's two to enough
and in one swing of the bat has a chance. Well,
fourth thing, you know, when they got to four, nothing
got him. But the kid's going to be a really,
really good player. Pumps it up and he didn't have
problem challenge to anybody. And he looks he's a combination
of Jackson Holiday and Jackson Dart and he is got
the hair he does. He they say he's twenty three,

(05:40):
that kid looks like he's about fifteen. So, but that
being said, you go to a deciding game, both teams
had the guts to throw out rookies. Schlitler dude, no
walks five hits, struck out twelve Yankee fans. This seriously
might be like, do we need that Garrett Cole guy? Still? Dude,
when you think about next week, you do. But started
Rodin Freed a healthy Garrett Cole and this dude and

(06:05):
he's gonna be what your fourth started your ass. This kid, dude,
big strong, and I'm gonna challenge up in his own
at one hundred, you hain't got a shot mixing pitches,
and I didn't see him crack a smile, change his
demeanor the entire time. He was a friggin monster. If if,
if that's how rookie's supposed to pitch, the hell with

(06:27):
the veteran I just was. And so it's one of those. Well,
as a diehard Red Sox fan, I'm like, what's going on?
It got to the point Dan last night it's like
you take it off from while you're standing up, take
a bow, kid, you know, and I thumbed him up.
It's like it wouldn't have mattered what the lineup looked
like last night. They had no shot. And we've seen
it with scooball, we saw it with Crochet. This aw

(06:49):
I mean in this postseason so far, when you were
going like that and I was, he was brilliant last night, man,
it was. It was a fun watch. I hate to
say that at the expense of my team, but how
could you not appreciate and twelve strikeouts and he didn't
get cheated on one of them.

Speaker 9 (07:05):
You almost wonder if that's it for Alex Bregman in
Boston too, you know, they the rumor of the talk
was he's he's gonna.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
He even said it himself. Oh he did, okay, so yeah,
i'd heard him when they were talking about the broadcast.
I didn't know if it came from him, but the
broadcast said, Alex is gonna test, you know, test free agency. Well,
what if that test means is he wants more money
from the Red Sox? Yeah? Or where's he going if
you're him? If the money's right. The one thing we
do know about that place, he thrives, and I think

(07:33):
he stays. I do too. I think I do too,
because in lose endeavors and you are allowing him to go,
and he made him, paid him all that money. There's
room to pay Bregman. And you know what you're gonna get.
You're gonna get a guy the top, you know, the
top part of your lineup. He'll work pitchers and play
good defense and uh and you know what you're getting

(07:54):
from him too. And you may get fast starts like
he did when he got the Boston year, which is
not normal for him.

Speaker 9 (07:59):
Then maybe this season they had Kyle Tucker or Frombervell does.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
I wouldn't count that out. I had another arm. I mean.

Speaker 9 (08:08):
Astro's twitter was pointing out that Cubs Twitter is, oh,
three hundred, that's where it starts with Kyle Tucker.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Let him walk. They're like, oh, that's where cup They're like.

Speaker 9 (08:17):
Cubs Twitter is getting a taste of Kyle Tucker in
the postseason.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yep. And you know Tucker's always going to be good, solid,
But I don't know if he's ever going to be
the best player in baseball.

Speaker 10 (08:31):
Man.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
I almost you hate to wonder this, but I really
almost wonder if like he even cares, if he wants
to be well. The body language and the approach said,
that can be, it can be, that can be misleading,
as we know, sure, but it looks like at times,
just from the body language, if you if you're one
of those, I don't know what an expert would say,
it looks like it's like it's good to be here,

(08:53):
but it really is, which speaks to his talent, because
if you can be that good and really kind of
just go now. I think we're probably wrong, but there's
a part of me that doesn't think that his whole
life is tied up into his identity, into being a
right fielder and playing baseball.

Speaker 9 (09:07):
It's almost like I told you about Nick Saban whenever
he'd sit down for an interview with you at you know,
media days or something like that.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Oh, coach, it's it's such a pleasure to have you on. Yeah,
I appreciate it. Good to be here. That's Kyle Tucker.
That's yeah, I appreciate it. Good to be here, right, Yeah,
I and I think he's good. I'd have a hard
time paying him four hundred million bucks. I don't think
he's worth that much money now, No, and I wouldn't.
I always to me, I don't. I don't think he's

(09:36):
a forty million dollar year play. I think he's a
really good player, Sure, I do. I think he's a
really good player. You're going to get twenty five home runs,
he's going to hit to eighty somewhere in that range.
And he'll play golden you know, gold golden gold glove
right field. I mean, people come at the time and
you hope you get him most telling out there in
right field. That's impressive. Yeah, exactly. So he's you know,

(09:57):
he's pretty good. And everything he does and he'll steal
some basis for you. Solid he's not going to disrupt anything.
He's not going to be a bad teammate. He just
can go about his business and show up on time,
do his thing. So but yeah, I mean, I put
it this way. If you're talking about dynamic, when you
talk about guys in that price range, soto Otani the

(10:17):
bets is of the world that he's not making that.
But you get my point. He's not them really good
and he'll help your team, and well, the Cubs are
moving on, so he'll help their team. But they made
the right move not paying him three hundred plus million
do it. They just did here. Yeah, they did well.

Speaker 9 (10:33):
I mean, and it worked out trade wise because two
of the three guys really helped you out this year.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
There's no question.

Speaker 9 (10:38):
I mean, the reason you were in position was guys
like east Soak, Preatis and Cam Smith.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
And there wasn't that passion to stay. He just you know,
he was okay leaving right now. If you're going that, Hey, Sean,
do you want ab out in the outfield with you?
You can move, you know, put him somewhere. Hell, I
think he could play center field. You got to bray
who's got a freaking hose? Yeah, up my money, go ahead, Spell,
I'll take him. It makes you better. But they've got

(11:04):
a loaded young outfits. I don't know if they'll go there.
I almost feel like they be more from her. Yeah, yeah,
because of a left hitded previous pitcher, which is going
to drive me crazy, Like, yeah, I get gosh, am
I gonna trust him when things go bad and he
gives up two home runs and just make sure you
make sure he's got a lands down right right. So
I but if we've had a good postseason, man, it's
to start normally. You want to will there be drama?

(11:27):
And I just there was great energy in the wildcard round.
No it was, I mean it was. But then it's
also too, I mean, it's going to be a really
good divisional round. Dodgers Phillies, that's fun. Well, that may
be the Cubs Brewers. You could argue if they were
both the different leagues. That's a that's a good look
at a World Series type a.

Speaker 9 (11:43):
J Hinch against the Mariners and then the Yankees and
Blue Jays.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
It'll be fun too. Yeah, I did. We're loaded with
some with some good series. So but as you and
I have talked the drama of postseason, baseball's phenomenal and
back to Joe Test the tour, maybe it's you know,
a little bit of a asked for me.

Speaker 10 (12:00):
Is.

Speaker 9 (12:00):
He gave me the death stare once you do so
funny enough. Yeah, So I mentioned media days is I
sat down on radio Row because somebody had asked me
to come on, and I didn't realize that the strap
of because I had at the time one of those
one strap laptop bags and I didn't realize that it
was out like kind of in an area that people

(12:21):
could walk by. And he almost tripped on it, and
I you know, looked in. I saw the corner of
my eye and I was like, oh, hey, Joe, I'm
so sorry. And he was just like kind of like
giving me the death stare. I'm like, Joe, it's okay, man,
you didn't trip. You're fine.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
So he went on, uh, what's bow tie guy's name? No, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 (12:42):
I was the photographer and he and he was Ken Rosenthal.
I was just stunned. No, you were trying to swing
a little, you know, and I mean, look, it's fine,
I understand you're annoyed. But same time, I mean, it's
an accident and I didn't do it. This isn't a
s out there to trip Joe. Yeah, this this isn't
the Three Stooges. I'm not trying to, like, you know,

(13:03):
pull exactly. I'm not trying to pull one on you.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Now.

Speaker 9 (13:06):
What would have been would have been a class Excuse me.
I got my Seltzer Sprayer right here. I'm gonna get
you with. What would he smell this flower?

Speaker 1 (13:13):
What would have happened if you'd have jumped up and
take the heel of your palm and hit him right
in his forehead like you say, yeah, I mean Joe
right the forehead.

Speaker 11 (13:24):
There you go.

Speaker 9 (13:24):
Yeah, I was gonna say, that's too joke. If you
want another one, you come back and find me. They're
speaking of that.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
The Three Stooges are still all times comedy, all timer.
It doesn't matter if you're five. If you're a five
year old, you're saying you've got your kid in front
of TV. Kid's probably laughing because it's it's such stupid humor.
And then there's guys like me who loves stupid humor.
I just it's awesome. I you know, I go bet
that Laurel and Hardy and all those every now and
then I'll get that. And Lucille Ball, who's a little

(13:53):
later than that, but sure, I'll get it. I'll get
a you know, a hankering to sit down and say,
I'm putting on the like the TV Lander, whatever it is,
and all of a sudden I get fifteen straight three
stoges you And you're right. I mean it does work
with the kids, no doubt, you know, yeah, yeah, because
that's it's the thing we laugh at when you're five,
and you're still laughing at when you're fifty five. Oh yeah,
all of it slaps the humor. You gotta love it,

(14:15):
all right, Hitler, take about because you're gonna get paid
somewhere here in the future there, buddy, and a lot
of it. I was going to say.

Speaker 9 (14:21):
And speaking of getting paid, one of the things that
you know I got on the sheet today is you know,
people will lament ho Jim Crane is cheap.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Let me tell you some stories. Kids.

Speaker 9 (14:31):
Why don't we sit down, Why don't you get comfortable
for this one.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
And one little football nugget before we go. Yeah, it's
not even a nugget. Something to keep an eye on.
Kyle Shanahan liked Mac Jones coming out of college. Just
so you understand that, huh, Mac Jones is undefeated as
a starter, and he's putting up numbers kind of like

(14:54):
when Rock Pretty did listen. I'm not getting that. I'm
just telling you Rock Pretty to turn them all over.
And mac Jones keeps playing like this can't take him out.
He'll be the highest paid backup in the history of football.
And I like Rock Purty, but I'm telling you Mac
Jones another good game last night. That is something Shanahan's
gonna be faced with it. I'm telling you they're waking
up this morning on radio there and you're gonna hear it.

(15:17):
You are absolutely going mighty knbr No, that's right, that's
exactly right. You were getting ninety five to seven of
the game. You're gonna hear it. Those guys, it's it's
it's going to start to flow because he's winning. And
remember last time you saw Brock what happened two picks
in a fumble and it cost him. And I'm pretty
but they're similar, not the same size, similar, and they're

(15:39):
not overly skilled. They're both good players and smart. But
good players are smart. Which one's playing better and playing
smarter and Brock's gonna have to And the more you
leave your glove on the mound, and give Mac Jones
opportunities to go out there and do what he did
last night against the team there were eight and a
half point dogs. I said, there's with all the injuries,
no way or the forty nine ers win win it.

(16:00):
Resilient Rams got back into it and boom, you force
a fun will kick a field goal in overtime? Win
a game that there's chatter is going to start there,
I assure you.

Speaker 9 (16:10):
And then Kyle Shanahan's gonna give the reporter attitude about it,
and you know, then the reporter can follow up, Hey,
why do you have Chris Simms's initials tattooed on you?
And why does he have yours on him?

Speaker 1 (16:20):
And then he's got the hair is gonna keep flowing,
and you know those guys go back and forth to
him and McVeigh, it's like, I got you this time.
When he at a good friendship, good competition, and uh,
even though they know what each other is probably thinking.

Speaker 9 (16:32):
Melios to us, Sean McVay, he talks like amelios. Oh,
of course that's great.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
And ah, the way our guys played, you know, they
were fantastic. Have you ever noticed too, when a minute
work Mike made a good movie. By the way, Mike
McDaniel wears joggers and we can't stand him because his
team sucks. Sean McVay wears joggers and he's cool as
hell and everybody wants to wear joggers.

Speaker 9 (16:54):
Well, you know, he's got that performance hoodio. Yeah over there,
and he fills it out. He's got the model wife.
He's got to keep up.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Oh yeah, he's jacked up, getting making sure. But he
wears like, oh, the Rams are good super Bowl type team.
I like what he wears. Drivers. The other guy pulls
him up to his knees and go go smoke a
joint and stop it. And you get into the analytics
card and go be an assistant called you know what
I'm saying. You look Santa Cruz. Yeah, you look like
you're hanging out down in Redondo, no doubt. Hey, dudes,

(17:19):
we're gonna be good. We're physical. No, you grab a
spliff and right and get back to Sean McVay and
be his assistant the run. That's him after a couple
of drinks at the bar. Oh we're physical. Yeah, Mike,
that's that's nice.

Speaker 12 (17:32):
Talk.

Speaker 9 (17:32):
We're going to continue our conversation over here. We'll right,
we'll speak to you when you're spoken to. All right,
let's start it off this morning with a little bit
of Texans because somebody pointed out something that should be
on the radar for the Texans, and if it's not,
there's zero excuse. We'll discuss it. Is Sean Salisbury show
here on a fight song Friday.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
We made it.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Let's go Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 13 (17:57):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety home up the case,
Astros and the best line up in Houston sports No.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Back to Sean Salisbury.

Speaker 9 (18:49):
Hey, it's Sean Salisbury showing a fight song Friday, Sports
Talk seven ninety. I mean, I don't know if I
really punched it and sold it right there, but we'll
go with it. Texan's back to work getting ready for
the Ravens Sunday and Baltimore. Good news, Derek Stingley Junior
limit didn't practice just day with that obleaque, so hopefully
he can go.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
You mentioned the forty nine ers.

Speaker 9 (19:08):
They walk off the Rams that field goal in OT
twenty six twenty three as Thursday Night football was last night,
and then the Tigers, Guardians, and Yankees all moving on
to the Divisional round of the postseason seven one three, two,
one two five seven ninety is the way to get
in talking Texans right now. And you know, we talked

(19:28):
about this a little bit yesterday of you know, who
do I trust in terms of the coaching matchups this weekend?
Where I mean, I understand too it's about the players.
Yet it's about the Jimmy's and the Joe's. We get
all of that, but when it comes down to scheming,
if it comes down to a battle between who is
able to outscheme the other, I trust Todd Mounkin in
being able to find a way. And you would think

(19:49):
that without Lamar Jackson, which with Harbaugh's response Monkin yesterday,
Lamar Jackson's not playing in this game. You don't practice
on Wednesday, you don't practice on Thursday. Maybe they'll try
to do a limited but if he doesn't practice today,
he's definitely not going in this one on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
So what if they're pulling the They say he's been
in this system long enough, I need fresh legs, and
they do pull the Oki dok on you that that's
why they're preparing for it. They didn't practice today, they
say fresh ready to go. Stand mellingvall spend some time
with Monkin off the field, you know, after practice, and
then shows up and all of a sudden miraculously wakes

(20:26):
up on Saturday. I'm good to go, and he's good. Yeah,
so it is a wise move to prepare for him,
because it's either when I say dumb it down, I'm
not saying I don't respect Cooper Rush. It's just easier
because of the what he does with his legs and
arms and two time MVP. Sure, so I can always
do that, you know, I can always scale it down
if I need to to deal with change our fly.
Then it's like, well, I know where Cooper Rush is
going to be, he's gonna be right on the spot,

(20:46):
will go get him. I would always prepare up and
be prepared for Oh okay, if he comes in, I
wouldn't take it for grant. Yeah. Do is watch the
forty nine Ers game last night? Limited injuries. A lot
of their best players aren't playing. They're not I mean
all that fast start jump out and the Rams chase
him down, but they hung in there, backup, quarterback, all
those things. I had no idea that they were three
and one going into that game. I swore they had

(21:08):
lost another we Well, no, because mac Jones has been
really frigging good in backup role. So they have and
as a starter should I say so that if you're
overly comfortable, and you can say, well, the forty nine
ers are better in Baltimore, but are they you know,
more I mean more fit? Fred Warner? They got good players,
but hell, who's to say that two of Baltimore's defenders
are not going to be back this week? So, yeah,

(21:28):
you got it? I would I would caution all of
us say, oh, this is an easy one. It ain't
gonna be easy.

Speaker 9 (21:33):
No, it's not gonna be But I mean Kyle Hamilton,
guy hurt himself in practice this week and he didn't
practice yesterday. So and he's a great foot I'm going
to say you lose him. He's a hell of a
center fielder back there in that secondary, but you have
to expect that. Then Todd Monkin would say, all right,
who do I have and who can I rely on?
Number twenty two Derrick Henry. The problem is, though, Sean,

(21:55):
in the first four weeks, they really haven't And our
good buddy dian Or Loski for me.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
He lays that out for us all right.

Speaker 14 (22:03):
Found out something about the Baltimore Ravens this morning that
shocked me. The month into the season, the Baltimore Ravens
with Derrick Henry are the thirty second ranked offense in
the NFL when it comes to giving the ball to
their running back on first or second down, meaning they
run the football on first and second down with their
running backs the least out of everybody in the NFL

(22:26):
the Ravens.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yet when they do it, their second in yards per
carry at six.

Speaker 14 (22:31):
So to kind of just summarize it, the Ravens on
first and second down give the ball to their running
backs less than anybody in the NFL. Get there, when
they do the second best offense in doing that, the
Baltimore Ravens with Derrick Henry, that shocks me.

Speaker 9 (22:47):
You almost wonder one of two things. Either are they
preparing you for the Okie Doke, which very much could be,
or is that rat poison? And the rat poison is
for the Texans and their defensive game plan is it
needs to very much be we stop Derrick Henry because
I can be surprised by Derrick Henry, because he's shown
us that he can surprise you. I mean, people thought

(23:08):
when he left Tennessee he was done and he went
to Baltimore and it was his demids was greatly over it,
right yeah, and he's proven as much since he got
to Baltimore. Then I can be surprised that I got
beaten by Cooper Rush.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
You know, you know it's weird as yous were talking
about an applauding monk and owt goodies, and I've echoed.
I think he's brilliant, really good at his job the
coordinator for Baltimore. But you're basically looking at evidence and
thumbing your nose at it by doing this. I do think,
in a crazy way, the presence of Lamar Jackson causes

(23:46):
that statistic.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
I do.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Now, with Lamar Jackson, you read a lot of RPO too,
so he can pull it and get every now and again.
You just got to take the RPO out of it
and turn around hand you having six yards of cary, Dude,
that's unheard of in that league. Right first down rundown.
I get where they're, oh, well, well we'll you know,
run it on third down, possibly in third and four,
and we'll throw it on first and second, second out.
But to me, you know, you're just looking at now.

(24:12):
You don't have to be an analytics fanatic or nuts
to look at and say, oh, he's averaged six yards
of carry on first and second down, but we're last
in the league on giving it to him on first
and second down. I can almost guarantee you that's going
to change this week. Now. I always say this, if
you come out of this game and Lamar Jackson does
not play and Derrick Henry beats you, and you know

(24:35):
what's coming down, that he's gonna run downhill And the
oddest thing about there's no more physical runner in the league.
We get some physical runners, but nobody more physical than him.
And it's six yards of carry. He's also got some
speed and wiggle too. The Bill Belichick philosophy, somebody will
beat me. It ain't gonna be your best player. I'm
taking away that guy. If you come out of this
game knowing with all these injuries and Derek Henry scores

(24:57):
two touchdowns, carries it thirty four times for third five
times for one hundred and sixty, shame on you. Shame
on it. Now. If you come out of this game,
you say, man, they gave it to him thirty two times.
For seventy yards and we stopped him. Even though you know,
attempts are more important than yards when it comes to
wins and losses in this league. That's true, and they
commit to it and Cooper Rush beat you. I'll live

(25:20):
with that. I will live with that because I see
backup quarterbacks do it regularly, coming in and win a
game or doing it. And he's got some experience so
just kind of know where to throw it. He's a
smart guy, so I just but I wouldn't rule out
Lamar Jackson just yet, even though he hasn't practiced, and
I wouldn't. I would make sure that you understand that
Todd Monkin's not stupid, and don't kid yourself. Somebody in

(25:41):
that building said you see what Orlowski said, what do
you mean? Even though they have the numbers in front
of him, go back and look and say, ooh, I
knew that there being around him at Georgia. He can
be a cranky guy too. There's no doubt. I'll show
that s so b oh, yeah, to pull his glasses
down to his nose and look, yeah, what the hell
does he think? He knows? He ran out of the
back of an end zone and guess what, you know,
what he knows the evidence that's there, it's six yards

(26:03):
of carry on first second down, hand it to him
more so that's how you you got to go into it.
You just can't. I know, it's easier said than done
tackling him. But if that means nine guys around the
line of scrimmage and I'm making yet the other side
of it is, you know, and if you're the Baltimore Ravens,
you're gonna try to do everything you can to create
a short field with and control that part of it
with pressuring and confusing an offensive line that's easily confused

(26:26):
the last year and a half or a year and
four games quite a bit so heavy. And then if
you're Monk and you're looking at the history of Derek Henry,
you're saying, okay, different teams, whatever, But still, this dude's
a freak. So if I'm going down, I got at
least give my team a paddle to row And that's
a pretty good paddle to give to him.

Speaker 9 (26:45):
The Texans offensive line room has on the wall we
believe in strong offensive guard play. Oh really, that's aged
about as well as Keegan Bradley's line about going to
Bethpage Black and kicking you you know where you're blanking ass.
I was gonna say where you got Shane Lowry in
the little massage chair and he's got the quote behind him.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
And then prepare Hey, how'd that go, buddy?

Speaker 10 (27:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:04):
And then prepare the golf course perfectly for the European
The Europeans, Yeah, perfectly. Hey, let's know rough, they just
keep making putts.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Well, I wonder why.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, they're not as long as you we are. But
let's make it so where they can use that, you
can spin it out of the rough, because they're great
iron players and they're not long, and let's let's let's
let's give them what they do better than us and
just set it up for them. Right, And I still
think this is rough? Have you evern't played the Ghouls? Yeah?
Right now, let me reverse it to you. You think
a twenty twenty seven? How you think they're setting it up? Oh,

(27:35):
don't be very much get themselves again? Of course they are,
so uh set it up for you to succeed, and
you have to go in. Think now, if Lamar plays,
then now you've you've prepared for it, but you're still
not able to simuliar. The practically, you just better go
in there and do your thing and hit him every
time he comes down the line with that football and
hit him in the mouth when he drops back to
throw or you miss, and that's that doesn't usually end

(27:58):
well for teams when you don't get Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 9 (28:00):
It'd be nice hopefully the Sexans can be prepared for
all scenarios on Sunday when they take on the Ravens
in Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
All Right, speaking of CJ.

Speaker 9 (28:10):
Shroud, because we briefly mentioned him during that segment, Well,
he just made an admission that I don't even think
he really understands what he's saying. We'll discuss here. It
is the Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Hey, guys, we got the changing leaves in the fall, right,
the color fall off, all that stuff. We know when
the falls come. Maybe it's a little later here and
it applies to retirement here. But money does not grow
on trees, guys, leaves do. Money doesn't. So give Trajan
wealth the call today a local trust in financial fiduciary
to ensure you're making the right financial moves for your future.

(28:43):
We do a lot of preparing for our future. You know,
if your kids get married to kids going to college,
you're thinking, oh, my kid's a sophomore in high school.
I got to start saving. Right, you do that, you
get out in front, which is whise. You don't just
wake up on the day they're supposed to go to orientations.
Say I got to pay for my kid. They're going
to private school and it's sixty thousand a year'll be
not a wise move. So get out in front of it.
And it's Halloween time, right, it's October. Your costume should

(29:05):
be scary, but not your retirement. Your retirement needs to
be smooth, relaxed, and quite frankly, a little bit of
confidence and security and peace of mind would be nice. Nice.
Trading wealth can help you conquer those fears with their planning,
and planning is an important things. So call today for
that free consultation three four six three seven one thirty
three thirty three four six three seven one thirty three thirty.

(29:29):
Wouldn't it be awesome if you got out in front
of it, whether you're thirty forty fifty or in retirement,
close to retirement, or thinking about retirement, that you got
to it and you say, this is the easiest thing
in the world. I'm retired. I got all these plans
and I get to accomplish all of them because I
don't have to go back to work. This is what
I planned for four years. Treasure Wealth can help you
get to those goals, to stand shoulder to show with

(29:49):
you and shoulder to shoulder with you and support your
portfolio of the way you want it and give you
great insight and advice. So don't you know, wear the
scary costume, but don't be afraid of your retirement, especially
if you make the call to Tradtion Wealth or visit
them at Tradianwealth dot com and get your free consultation.
It's Tradianwealth dot Com Traswealth dot com. They want for

(30:10):
you what you want, peace of mind and security, but
you do have to prepare for it, and we're better
to start than Tradition Wealth. Tradianwealth dot Com as advisory
services through trad Wealth LLC and SEC Registered Investment Advisor,
Client paid advertisement additional disclosures at Tradtionwealth dot Com.

Speaker 10 (30:29):
We're there.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
The Sean Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 9 (30:57):
Fired Up Sean Salisbury Show Song Friday. This doesn't get
you pumped up There's a buddy of mine named West
Blancinship who would do a imitation of a small town
high school football announcer and one of his lines was, well, if.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
That don't light your fire, your wood is wet. Great line.
It really is like it. He's a clever guy. I
love that guy.

Speaker 9 (31:21):
But yeah, look it up Coffee Town West blancin Ship,
you'll you'll love it. Time for the big tire pregame show.
Marchres kicks it away. Is really really and then like
you could hear like when they'd have like the you know,
the halftime show of one of those like small town
high school football broadcasts. Yeah, and you can hear the
marching band in the background, just the drums overwhelming the

(31:42):
rest of the band.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
It's so good. I love that.

Speaker 9 (31:45):
He's really tremendous at it. And Marty and McGhee were
big fans of it. They they absolutely loved it. But anyway,
it's the Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety Texans
getting ready for the Ravens. You mentioned about some possibilities
to some injuries. Well, you know, it's seems like Lamar
Jackson's not gonna be able to go. But the Ravens
could also be without Kyle Hamilton too. He heard his

(32:07):
growing in practice.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Probably best player on offense, best player on defense. Like
I said, he long, lengthy center fielder. I mean, is
a guy that has the size to play linebacker but
plays there in the back end. It is is athletic
as the day is. We'll put it this way as
a ballhawk is a free safety and one of the
best we have in LA. But he also if something
were to go wrong, he's versatile enough to pop down

(32:29):
an eight guy in the box and play tackle football.
And so he's he's a phenomenal player. He was phenomenal
coming out of Notre Dame and he's he's even been better.
I mean, he was really good there, but as a
pro he hasn't taken a step back.

Speaker 9 (32:42):
It's so crazy to think because it does not seem
like that long ago I was watching him play high
school football at Maris in Atlanta. Oh, that's just so.
He's a Georgia guy too, what a football player. And
then there's a place called Chateau with lawn. I was
there for a wedding once, so the resort right right hotel,
and a guy comes up to me, Hey, you know
you York for six to eighty, right, And I said, yeah,
introduced himself. I can't remember his first name, but Hamilton.

(33:04):
I'm Kyle Hamilton's dad, And I was like, oh.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
No kidding. Yeah, by the way, your kid's pretty good.

Speaker 9 (33:09):
And his dad was like six foot eight, six foot
nine too, played basketball, look like an Belgia.

Speaker 10 (33:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (33:14):
Yeah, So as soon as soon as you know I'm
looking up talking to him, I'm like, all right, I
can see where the hyke comes from.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
My pops. You know, my dad was my size but
eighty second ever tough. You know, when people saw him
they called him my buddies at us, he called him
King Richard because he he was as big and strong
as those guys were. Right, And you know, you go
back and say, well, heck, I'm twenty years older than
my dad was when he was my dad. At you
start to go through that crazy as stuff you get

(33:40):
a little older. I miss him. But anyway, when I
was playing with the Chargers, you know Rodney Harrison's teammate,
you know how tough that sob is, right, and one
of my favorite people in the world. Hey, well, Kack
helmet or in practice to a rookie, I'll say, well,
why don't you just find out every practice, Hey, Rodney
coaches Cord Rodney, he's on our team. I mean I practice,

(34:02):
he's knocking dudes out in shoulder pass till Bobby, Oh yeah, yeah,
hey right, good old country.

Speaker 9 (34:07):
I'm not I'm not coaching the black Shirts at Georgia
Tech anymore.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
We can't do that. We love you, but get to
the sideline. We got to have enough players to play
this week. And he's rookies are running around, he's sitting messages.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Right.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
So after one game, we're coming out of the tunnel.
My pops, you know, my pop's there. My pops is
jacked up, and I'm not a proud son. And so
the work of it out and my boy, my guy,
man Rodney Harrison, and Rodney's got muscles coming out of
his ear lobs right and not yeah, not afraid of anything,

(34:39):
and one of the best people you'll ever meet. He
walks out and like you know, we're walking out together,
and be about to hug him and say, man, see you.
You know, it's after a win. Everybody's happy. And he
goes over to guy and just south, come here, I
want you to I want you to meet my pops.
I'm like, okay, so I'm not even paying attention. I'm
talking my dad. Dad will be right back, man, walk
over there and he introduce and then ravity induced to me.

(35:03):
I shake his dad's hand and tell him how much
I love his kid and stuff. Right, And I look
at Rodney. I say, I get it, dude. I'm telling
you I could have taken my dad and his dad
the next week and put him on a practice field
and we might upgrade it at a couple of positions
eligibility his dad, And I thought, and I looked right
in whatever I see and say, dude, I understands as

(35:26):
tough as you. Yeah, I say, as tough as you are. Yes,
when people say, hey, man, you get when I hear
people say, oh I got a five with my dad,
not not me. And I looked at Rodney. I said,
when when something breaks out and there's a disagreement house,
I know whose side I'm on. As much as I
love you, buddy, I now I know where it came from.
And his quiet you know, typic that guy doesn't so much.
But you say, uh, and I'm talking about like Rodney

(35:50):
the traps. I mean, he was just jacked up, and
I'm like and just as nice and good a guy.
And I thought, okay, I get why you're as good
as you are because your pops is a monster and
everybody knew it, and just quiet guys said, those are
the most dangerous ones. I've said it, scariest one I've
said it. And Rodney's like that too. You don't say much,
but when you're on the field across his face, it's
a bad idea byt you you get I think he
should be in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 9 (36:11):
You get into a bar brawl, guess who's the one
that you don't take on? The one who hasn't said
very much all night. Don't take on that guy at
that point.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
You know, he's a young player and the Chargers and
stuff and loved him and went on to even play
great football there for many more years in New England.
But I thought, okay, you keep doing with your pops,
and whatever your pop tells you to do, you do,
and we'll we'll see hopefully of the Hall of Fame.
Because it, dude, was phenomenal. I'm laughing to shut out
Greg Cook. I just heard it once during a break
when I hosted with him, you know, a long time ago, and.

Speaker 9 (36:41):
Somehow the conversation got to bar brawls, and Greg was like,
oh yeah, I've been in a couple of them, and
I can just imagine, you know, Greg with that you know,
flowing hair and the mustache. You know, just maybe maybe
a little bit of like I kind of cut off
shirt throwing somebody over a couple wouldn't days.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
He's not gonna have to punch it. He just throws
him against the back of the bar like a movie.
Like I say, somebody tries to snap a pool key
on his back and then he hit tosses the moment
the pool table. You know what I find really weird.
I've been into bars like I was, Oh my god,
he hit the chandelier we walk in. It's so funny
you say that. You know, normally you say, like if

(37:16):
you're gonna take somebody on, you walk in and you say, man,
I'm gonna fight this guy, and he's got a cauliflower.
You say, no, I'm not gonna fight this guy. So
I can remember Kurt Govea in the Linebacker Washington and
San Dieglos and Tongan Samone, like I said, and guys
that don't there are you want to be on their
side all the time.

Speaker 9 (37:33):
Another one too, Yeah, that's got the dmpled the dent
right there on their nose or rubbed against it and
go bump on their nose like fifteen years in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Don't fight them. Yeah, and the nicest guy in the world.
But I took a bunch of guys out to do it.
Every week in San Diego. Take a bunch of us
out dinner them. You know, maybe we'd go out to
a country bar, so just for a couple of drinks.
And I had like seven of my linemen, a couple
other players and Junior and govea we walk into a
place just as he's and you know, you walk in

(38:04):
as a group, obviously people are gonna look cause you
got eight guys at way three twenty right, And Gove
is walking in, and dude, the hat just comes up
and wants a challenging right up. And I'm like, and
I finally looked, I said it kept going. And he's
walking in. You know, you get a little wants to
challenge the big boys to show to his little group
of buddies. And I'm like, and Gove is a nice guy,
and kind of smirking at it, and I like, I

(38:24):
looked at guy said.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yeah, yeah, what what you are?

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (38:28):
Why?

Speaker 1 (38:29):
I said, First of all, he doesn't need our help,
you and your five buddies. It's probably a bad idea.
We'll just turn him loose on all of you and
go with it. But I look, I said, what what
would make you when you walk into a room. Hey
there's Connor McGregor, let me fight him? And this is Gova.
I'm like, what would make you think? First of all,
if it breaks out and he got all these big
fellows in there, but second more just with him? Yeah,

(38:52):
I just don't understand. Alcohol is a bad thing when
it comes to that, right, But it was just like,
who would walk into a cry? So I think I'll
fight Greg Cook?

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:03):
You know, well who I think I'll fight Kurt gov
Let me go open and and he hits seal from
behind and see how that ends up? You know who
does that? It's like and I find myself having to
talk guys out of getting themselves killed instead of turning
my guy. And it's like it's happened a couple I
was like, dude, please and if you don't want to
do this, to him. It is a nice guy in
the world. But trust me, just just get the hair

(39:23):
standing up on the back of the neck and it
won't be him that you're going to visit in the hospital.
Just leave it alone.

Speaker 9 (39:28):
It's like, dude, these guys are trained to kill people,
not literally but figuratively on Sundays. You, Chad, in your
your nine to five day job, are not going to
intimidate this guy.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, Well, it's just it's silly too. It's not like
there's like a dog. God, you take him on, you cannot.
We were three minutes and we just walked in and
it was like guy had of wild hair or whatever
and his buddies. It's like and you know his buddies.
It's like, do you know when you watch the Lee
Child movie, the one with Cruiz what's it called? Uh Cocktail? No? Uh,
where he's the Lee Child where he's the color of Money. No,

(40:03):
the most recent ones he does the where he's the
the Drift. He's a little Jack Reacher. Yeah, when he's
Reacher and when he's in the street he walks out
in the street. There's five of the four of those
days he goes, well you two's two of you are
going to leave after I start this. After I said
you sure, he says, you sure you want to do
this and it's cruise and You're like, are you sure

(40:25):
you want to do this?

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Right?

Speaker 1 (40:27):
And then there's the three and he goes, now one
of you is going to step up his tough guy
in the leader and you'll be after just a second.
I'm taking you out. I'll take you right. And then
he said, by the time the other right, And so
I'm thinking the same thing. I'm thinking, Okay. Then I
was thinking, you know how the buddies in that movie,
the guys from behind are kind of after the one punch,
like I don't want the guy standing behind this guy

(40:48):
orre like look at his buddy, like dude, and it's
just like, oh, I don't want that happened. It's just
it was like he didn't have to say it, like Chris,
like you had my back. Yeah, yeah, I do, but
just not physically. You're supposed to be the alpha. But
I'll take you out quickly. You two are gonna run
and you two have no shot. Oh okay, yeah you
sure you want this? And thank goodness, they didn't want it.

(41:09):
They talk your way out of it. And it's not
talking my buddy out of it at the ass whop,
and the guy probably deserve for being an idiot, but
he's talking out of somebody going to jail and somebody
really getting hurt. And guess who it wouldn't have been
Kurt Govea. You could have taken a baseball bat to
his head. It wouldn't have matter. Okay, So I just, yeah,
let me fight Greg Cook. That sounds like a wise
idea in a little bar.

Speaker 9 (41:30):
I'm just I'm just getting like a picture of like
seventies eighties Cook, you know, with the mustache, like I said,
in the hair and you know, flowing beer bottles flying
everywhere and pull cues.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Now, the guy hits you know how they have a
mirror behind the bar, behind the drakes. He goes, he
goes horizontally into it. Yeah, he gets the hand on
the belts and the other hand on on the top
of the shirt and the right and then after the
guy lands and everyone's kind of jabbling and it's kind
of cool down.

Speaker 9 (41:59):
He grabs beard, finishes drinking, right. Yeah, he's see all
the other like, you know, round tables have been tipped over.
But you know, gregs is right there, just goes takes
a couple of drinks. All right, boys, let's go right,
but he's not gonna get he don't wasted his beer
right exactly. Yeah, yeah, don't spill my beer.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
I just have never. I mean, we all got to,
you know, to choose wisely, and there are certain things
you don't choose to do. And I I've always been
baffled by We're just here to have a good time
with Kvey would have bought you a drink even after
you tried to be an idiot. He Price said, yeah,
to save you're from overloading your mouth with your ass
again the next time, because somebody may not be as

(42:34):
nice as him next time. I just don't get it,
all right.

Speaker 9 (42:37):
Continued Texans Conversations Fight Song Friday, Sean Salisbury Show, Sports
Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
This Sean Salisbury Show continues continue.

Speaker 9 (43:38):
The sounds of a fight song Friday. Here Shaan Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven ninety. Let's see what we've covered today.
We've covered pissed off Joe Testa to our once covered
Greg Cook and bar brawls. Let's see the Ravens don't
run the football on first and second down. I mean,
I think that's a pretty solid first hour that we've
had a lot of physicality on a conversation.

Speaker 10 (44:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yeah, yeah, we're just we're a kinder, gentler group now,
that's it. I mean, you know, it's kind of funny too.

Speaker 9 (44:05):
You were mentioning, like, you know, some of your guys
like Junior sa and the crew where it almost kind
of reminds me the way you described them, like Bob
Odenkirk in the movie Nobody, where you know, the brother
tries to be the fake tough guy and then he
knocks the wind out of his brother and he's like
he's like, all right, hey, stand up, beat deep breaths,
You're fine. That's like those guys like they beat someone's
ass at a bar, but then be like, hey brother,

(44:27):
good fight.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yeah, let me get you a beer. Oh yeah yeah.
And if they have to take it anywhere to get
his tooth fixed or stitched up, they'll drive him there,
right yeah. But like I said, with those guys, dude,
and maybe even pay the bill. Then afterwards be like, hey, look,
this is as nice as I'm gonna be right. You
get one of these, you get one time and then
go and and when you're around a group of the guys.
And it also reminds me of Dn of Thieves when

(44:50):
fifty cents. A daughter was going on a day and
they went into the garage and all his buddies are
oh yeah, and the kid walks in and urinated down
his tucksuit and they had to go back out there
and they're all laughing when he walks out and there
was a couple of moons and what you saw in
there too, and that that that's how it is. And
if you talk about like their mom or their sister.

(45:12):
Now we all protect our sisters and daughters, but they
are it's it's like you want the greatest time of
your life and fun them. You want the greatest protection
detail in your life. Them. You want the sweetest, kindest
people in the world. That group you want to die
quickly them them. Yeah, and I'll get that, that big

(45:34):
un and you know what they do. You shot me
in the shoulder. I'll get that tricks later. I got
I got business to take care of her and I dude,
I and I may be cheating them out of them.
It is the some of the greatest group of people
you will ever be right. And if you're on their side, dude,
grab a cigar, enjoy yourself because you got to worries
in the world toughest, toughest group you'll ever be.

Speaker 9 (45:56):
It's better to know them and not need them than
need them and not know them. Yeah, there's there was
an old uh favorite question. If you have a question
of toughness, go watch him play rugby too now. Yeah,
And there was a bail bonds company that I used
to do spots for. That was their thing was it's
better to need us and not know us, to know
us and not need us. I was like, that is
a good slogan like that, it's about as true as

(46:17):
it gets. Yeah, no doubt for sure. All Right, we'll
get back into the Texans conversation because something C. J.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Stroud said, I don't really understand it was odd. I
don't think he really understands what he was saying. And
you know, if what he was saying happens that he'll
start looking for a new profession about thirty, say, yeah,
can you still play baseball? You know, give it a shot.

Speaker 9 (46:41):
We'll talk about that as we start seven o'clock hour
here on the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Kt ME Houston K HD two Houston. That's a Rocket.

Speaker 13 (46:55):
Sports Talk seven your home for your home teams. Make
Houston Sports. Then number one preset on your car radio
and then you would improve iHeartRadio app free never sounded
so good.

Speaker 8 (47:11):
Saulsbury, old very Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
House did Okay, let's do this, Sean Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
Usc truths longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Sean Salsbury Show.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Texans get ready for the Ravens on Sunday.

Speaker 9 (47:35):
Derek Stingley Junior back on the Praxe field yesterday, limited
though forty nine ers an overtime field goal to walk
off the Rams on Thursday Night Football twenty six, twenty three,
and the Tigers and the Cubs as well as the
Yankees moving on to the divisional round after the wild
card series closes out last night. Semon one three, two, one,

(47:56):
two five seven ninety is the number to get in
if you want to get in on the Texans conversation.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
A couple of days ago, CJ.

Speaker 9 (48:03):
Stroud met with the media, and we'll get to some
of the other particulars with CJ in a second, but
he said something that I thought was pretty interesting.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
So CJ.

Speaker 9 (48:13):
Is what three years in the league now, so early twenties,
and I mean he's been hit a lot over these
last couple of years, so probably a little banged up,
more banged up than he'd like to be. But when
you hear somebody that fits that profile say things like this,
well we'll just let CJ explain and then you can react.

Speaker 15 (48:34):
Sean, being twenty three, I'm not like fully in my
grown man bodies all the way. Yet you know, I'm
still growing every like every year, and I just think
like I got to just continue to be harder myself
about not only just lifting weights, but eating the right foods.
Like that's been a big thing too. So yeah, that's
just a thing where I think the explosiveness comes from,

(48:56):
like being better on my diet, being better with you know, stretching.
And I feel like I'm getting old.

Speaker 10 (49:04):
So I got it.

Speaker 15 (49:05):
I'm as quick as I used to be. I was
watching my high school stuff a couple of days ago.
I was I was like one eight and I was rolling.

Speaker 9 (49:12):
But I know more, I feel like I'm getting old CJ.
At twenty three, CJ, I got bad news for you, buddy.
It doesn't get better.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Well, I was about to tell him. I said, you
think it's bad, now see me in a decade, and
you're gonna have to understand that by the time you're thirty,
your ass will be a broadcaster.

Speaker 9 (49:31):
Yeah, Sean through his back out. How he sneezed.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yeah, don't kid yourself. That happens too. Oh it's happened.
Yeah that listen. I know it was an odd comment.

Speaker 9 (49:41):
You know, would it be weird for somebody to pull
a quadr set playing in a media softball game?

Speaker 11 (49:45):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (49:46):
Yeah, that's right. That was me exactly. And I was
a little heavier then, but still the point's still Carrious.
Here's the thing, there's a lot of traction going on
on social media over this. When you just see the comment,
it's like, that's odd, weird, right, But when you hear
him like smiling about it, who doesn't go back and
watch their old high schools tape and say, man, I

(50:06):
had some hops, then you know what I'm saying, mashboard
ab But I got news for him. Hence you better
get he's right. The thing he is right about about
this is diet off. What do you think, listen, Brady
was Noahdonnis. But you know what extended his off seasons
were probably worked harder training than he ever did during
the season.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
It's it is so weird.

Speaker 9 (50:28):
So like the Patriots documentary they had on Apple TV
a couple of years ago, you see young Brady and
he's kind of got that puffy face and like he.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
He soft around the air. You saw him at the
combine time. There's nothing he couldn't bench press. I mean,
I would imagine he probably had trouble doing a pull
up and couldn't bench press.

Speaker 9 (50:45):
Is half his body was It looked looked like he
was out there wearing the new balanced Dad Killers. Yes, yes,
on the field, yes, and then but you realize, why
do you listen, Lebron James a freak, but you can
be a freak.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
But freaks get fat and out of shape too. Why
do you think he's able to have You got to
have a little luck on your side. Sure, but and
it's always fat guys with a lot of money and listen,
to eat right, it's expensive and to do it right,
to have it, hire the proper trainer, it's a lot
of money. I've never understood guys that are world class athletes.
Let that go. The one thing you can't now you

(51:19):
can't control age, but you can slow it down a little.
That Lebron James is, I'm just using it. Kobe, God
rest his soul, unfortunately what happened to him. But these
got Brady. You start to warn moon these guys who
that day when you wake up a month after the
season or even during the season, Nolan Ryan, where you're like,
I'm exhausted, I'm not doing this, but still find a
way to do something and change the way you eat

(51:42):
and do all what's and study it like Brady did well.
He added ten years that other guys aren't going to get.
You have to and it's odd sometimes like, man, he
likes this and he let you know all the things
that he said, he he did, the the whatever Brady
was eating and all that stuff, all that stuff. But
it's it's money. You know, you're that you're just adding

(52:03):
to your career. And you think I've always wondered, Well, listen,
you're gonna invest one hundred and fifty thousand dollars on
your fourteenth car, right yet you're gonna sit around and
eat fourteen hot dogs and wonder why your career ended
five years sooner than you want you I'm not talking
about Stroud, but he's right to talk about it. And
when you hear his voice and laughing, like, man, I
look at my high school table, and I say, but
it is going to get The metabolism's gonna slow and

(52:26):
it's gonna be more. And guess what the hits you
take the off season, you're gonna wait a little longer
to get to your off season program. That's when we
talked the other day. I said, don't let it go
too long. Easy to lose, hard to get back. So
I do have new store. As we laugh, I said,
if you're feeling it now, stay tuned, buddy. My mom
would call it post athletes syndrome. And you know, the
post athlete syndrome hits a lot skill position guys and

(52:49):
like guards that pitt guards point guards that will wagh
like three hundreds, like you'll it's it's untidentable, like you'll
see some guys like years later and you're like that,
wait wait wait, like you formerly him, like you ate him.
It's almost unrecognizable, right yeah. But then the other way around,
Lineman looked two way two twenty dude, Like like Joe
Thomas now is like running marathons, right, dude, I've played

(53:11):
with buddies of mine that we're on that the gube
that I'm you know, two forty, and I'm like, they're like, hey,
salas Man, all play quarterback, you can play inside linebackers like.
But the truth is, and you there is something to
what you're saying about the fatigue that goes with it.
Point guards, those guys, wide receivers, the rest dude their
whole lot every day because yeah, I'm tired of it. Listen,

(53:35):
we want to enjoy it. If you have a job
and you're doing something and you get out of it,
that's why a lot of former football players I talked
to they just don't watch. You know, you're burned out.
It's like in any job. It's like you've been selling
real estate or you've been working. The last thing I
want to talk to you about is how to purchase
real estate. Leave me alone. Right, it's the same thing here, Ah,
I cannot help you with interest rate, the commitment. It
takes well, no offense to him. Look at the great

(53:57):
Michael Jordan. Michael's you know, my the pants are going
up a little higher. But Michael's always wore his golf
slack s eygh. But Michael's not. You look at Michael said, man,
that was you know, Michael Jordan had about two percent
body filing smoke sticks in his sixties.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
But I get it.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Do product placement for his tequila as part of the
Last Dance, no doubt all. And I'm not This isn't
shaming them. I get it. But they've worked so hard
while they were playing. There's no really off season for
those guys because a week or two later they're backing
to train their bodies so they don't get behind in
a month before camp, we see those guys too. I
got to catch back up and you're doing double time.
So there's that. And then just like a point guard, dude,

(54:34):
you know what I've been doing this, I'm not picking
up a weight. I know a lot of guys that
once they leave don't they'll they don't work, they'll walk treadmill,
they're done. They don't pick up a basketball, they're done
with it, right, So it is hard. But the other side,
the majority of lineman, I a lot of them, they
cared about fitness and stayed in shape instead away in
and carrying around that weight. From Boselli to Anthony Munos,

(54:58):
they get down and you're looking at me, say that
guy was a world class three hundred pounds line. You're like, yeah,
sure he was. He's too Shawn, he's two fifteen. He
looks like he could. He's not even big enough with
some of these wide receivers that are too Let me
google him on my phone. Right, Yeah, here you go,
that was him. That's exactly right now. So there is
something to it both ways. You're one hundred percent correct.
You've seen point guards all of a sudden you say, hm,

(55:19):
what Yeah, he's like two eighty five, and it's and
he's been removed like eight years from the league, right,
And it's not shaming, it's like damn. And then there's
party says I get it, I get it. Hell Dan.
For me, there was a point in time you get
it and you don't really you see yourself and they say, yeah,
I'm gaining some weight a point in time with my
side and stuff, and went to wright knee replacement and
not make an excuse, but I didn't want anything to

(55:40):
do with it.

Speaker 11 (55:41):
Right.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Three hundred pounds, yeah, got to Now it's six five
id that feeling of you know what, this doesn't quite fit,
and you say I got to get back to doing
something eat right, and it's all its weirding, right, all
this bar food and all this drinking I've been doing
and infrequently working out, and I'm three h five weird. Yeah,
And when you order a pizza instead of two slices,
you eat the pizza right because you're sitting whatever it is,

(56:04):
and then you fall deeper in Thanto depression kicks him
for some but that that's a real thing. And hopefully
CJ won't get there, but you're gonna find out in
the offseason if you don't work. You went from two
twenty as a quarterback to two forty five and not
the way you want to gain the weight. Right.

Speaker 9 (56:18):
This serious side of it too is this is why
Jake Glazer created merging vets.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
And players, is because it's dangerous too.

Speaker 9 (56:24):
Well, it's but like because guys who get out of
the service, it's the same deal, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
I don't have the structure. I don't have the pt
all of that. That's why I like Mark Frankly, you're
fatigued by doing it. That your whole life, you've been
doing it.

Speaker 9 (56:36):
Marcus Latrell even like when because it was whatever show
that Peter Berg had on HBO, right, and they had
a former player I think it was how He Long
was on with them, and Latrell was like, hey, look,
you know, I mean, obviously I'm not gonna be downranged anymore.
But a guy do something that fulfills me, He goes,
So I stole pt like I did. Why wouldn't physically
train for it?

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Yeah, maybe not as extensive, but still do enough of
it to keep yourself sharp. And then it gets to
the point where you're like, you know, from heart disease
and all the stuff you've e and it just it
happens to them. And and then you you couple that
with hits to the head for athletes or military and
the cycle and right now we can laugh because he's
twenty three. But I got buddies that can't remember day

(57:20):
to day where their daughter goes to school. But I
also got buddies that were big, and you think, man alive?
Is he healthy? And then a handful of years later,
there's two fifteen and like you said, running marathons, damn
on you? So what have you been up to? I
just completed the ran out there in Hawaii, right, And
if you're if you're in if you're around anybody who's
gone through health issues. It was a good buddy years
and it struggled with Waiter. It will scare you straight too.

(57:43):
It's not just way, it's just the fact. Think about it.
When you're down and out and then you get up
and go get a sweat in, you feel better. You
just do so. The first time I want the synergenics
and I got my numbers, I was like, it's a
big different. So so Joe, just to let you know, brother, brother,
better to do it now than wake up when you're
thirty and say, you know, and I need to get
back in shape, because at that point in time it's tough.
The rear view mirror is like, it doesn't work as good.

(58:06):
Use the side view mirror where objects are closer than
they appear, and start now because and it'll be the
off season, dude. It's the office. That's what gets guys
out of the league. The commitment the off season when
you start to get older is committing to the workout.
Because if you could just be in the same shape,
stamp a button, and you know, the genie comes out
of the boy. Say hey, I'm not going to work
out this off season. But I want to feel the
same way I do. When fall comes around. They'd still play, sure,

(58:27):
all that, and then you'd have to drag him off
the field. But it's that commitment. You don't think Brady
still want to play. Dude, you know he wanted to
play more. He killed his marriage because he's still one.
He still wanted to play. And I bet you today
he wakes up in the morning thinking when he's watching
his Raiders play, thinking I want to play, and he's
broadcasting the game. But here's the problem. It's that commitment.
But you don't want to play if you're going to
be average with a guy like him, even decent would

(58:49):
be wouldn't be enough. And his last year, I think
he saw that and was like, that's my cue. And
that's what the guy who spent his whole off season
eating right, paying big money. And that's what I was saying.
If you got all that money and it can extend
your career, You've pin two hundred thousand dollars in the
off season to hire trainers and get a gym and
all those things. Whatever it is you're doing, sit in
a Hyperbarrick chamber, and then you make ten million on

(59:11):
the other end, it's worth the investment. And I don't
think enough athletes that way invest themselves. But we'll invest
in a lot of things. Hey man, how's that car?
Which one the fifteenth? How's the body? It's a little
beat up. So it's hard in the off season, especially
as a football player, to continue to make that commitment
to be ready in the fall. And the great ones
don't want to be average.

Speaker 9 (59:31):
All right, this is the time of the day when
me and Sean turn into Richard Dreyfus and Emilio Estevez.
And in this case, we'll studies show that a lot
of us are in this group and it's not a
fun group to be in.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
We'll discuss here.

Speaker 9 (59:43):
It is The Sean Salisbury Show Fight Song Friday Sports
Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 13 (59:47):
The Salisbury Stakeout on seven ninety is brought to you
by Helsburg Diamonds. Find the engagement during worthy of your
story yet Hellsburg visit a Hellsburg store or Hellsburg dot Com.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

Speaker 13 (01:00:06):
The Salisbury's takeout Salsbury Takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 9 (01:00:15):
We do it this time every weekday here Sean Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven ninety as the Texans getting ready for
the Ravens on Sunday, the Tigers, Cubs, and Yankees all
moving on to the next round of the postseason, and
u H Texas Tech Tomorrow night. TDCU Stadium coverage is
gonna get started at five over on KPRC nine fifty.

(01:00:38):
All right, Sean Scams, we see him all the time.
It's either it comes in the mail or now in
this new age, it's on your phone. You're getting a text,
you're getting a call, whatever it might be.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
So you're telling me that guy who's in Nigeria that's
got one hundred million dollars if I give my bank account,
it's not real.

Speaker 9 (01:00:54):
You know, I was gonna say the Saudi prinz who
you know, wants to bless you with ten million dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
You know that that type. Just give me a routing
number of number in your bank account. Yeah, yeah, that guy.

Speaker 9 (01:01:05):
So, according to Popular Science, Americans are the most scammed
population in the world. No shock, ninety percent of the
population receives them weekly, which yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 11 (01:01:19):
It is.

Speaker 9 (01:01:19):
I mean, you get impersonator scams like AI being the
way it is where it's you know, you know, is
somebody calling you, Daniel, you know this is your mom
and my mom had had a good point there. You
got to create a family codeword where then you ask, hey,
what's what's the code word? You know, and then they
say it, it's like, okay, you're not my mom. They'll
hang up, all right, yeah your T one thousand. You

(01:01:42):
should hang up. Yah, you're false to put thement so dead.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
And you know what they'll do. They'll call you up
and just trying to get your voice to say yes,
we accept yes, and then if you hang up, they
got your voice. Now now they can do whatever they want.

Speaker 9 (01:01:55):
That's why anybody out there, if you're listening PSA for
the audience, change your voicemail to yours the phone number.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Change it to that.

Speaker 9 (01:02:02):
I mean, I know that Tiger tried to tell Rachel
you could tell to do that. If you could do that,
that'd be huge. You know, go listen to that voicemail.
But yeah, just just change it, change it to a number,
because I mean, that's another way that they get you
is then they just listen to you. You know, Hey,
this is Dan, thanks for calling. So then you know, yeah,
I was gonna say in front of my voice and
then you know, of course then it sounds like me.

(01:02:23):
So you know you also have ones like this happened
to me. I didn't fall for it. Banks, where you
have fraudulent activity, click on this link and I'm like, the.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Bank won't do that, some of them will. Did you
did you do this? Yes or no? And then the
follow up is not a link, it's a call this
number or they call you. If you say yes, you'll
get that text because it's like your alarm at home,
bingo if it goes off there right, you know, right,
and then you can see that. And anytime they give
you one where it's it's got fourteen different numbers and

(01:02:55):
it's from a foreign country, right, don't answer it.

Speaker 9 (01:02:57):
Well, And they tell you all the time to banks
do where you know, we will never ask for your
bank account information or anything like that because you tell
you call them and you tell them who you are,
you your well, you have your security, and then they've
got it right there, so you know you're you're fine there.
But one of the ones, and it actually even happened
to me and you Sean a few weeks ago, it did.

(01:03:18):
Remember we talked about it. Where you have an outstanding
traffic violation. So here was the one that got me.
It didn't get me, but then I laughed about you know,
we talked about it, saying that this has happened.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
You have one. You're like, no, I don't. Some of
these scam ease are getting very, very very lazy.

Speaker 9 (01:03:42):
They put me on a group text What law enforcement
body do you think a is going to text you?
Let me tell you what they do. They send a
letter and then if the letter doesn't work, somebody knocks
on the door and then you can see, oh they've
got a badge, they got a gun. Yep, their car
has lights.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
On top of it. Yeah, they're a cop. Oh. Group text. Yeah,
that's a real smart one. And somebody buys into it.
It's like what yeah, so the group text, because remember
I had mentioned it.

Speaker 11 (01:04:11):
I go.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
They put me on a group texting you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
They put me on one two?

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Do I get a text every Friday? Hello, you're still
picking me up at the airport or something like that
and are meeting? Yes? And so at first that's I'll say, uh, wrong,
wrong person. I don't say wrong guy. Wrong, it's the
wrong person. They'll say, oh, well, oh what's your name? Yeah,

(01:04:35):
what's your name? Oh, I'm really sorry for interrupting you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Do you do?

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
What are you? If you're in LA I'd like to
buy a cup of coffee to tell you. I'm sorry.
It's like, uh, okay, Block, it's I mean, and I'm
telling you today around three point thirty, it's coming, right,
it's hello. Yeah, and now they're coming sometimes earlier, but
on a Friday going into the weekend. I always got it.
I'm supposed to pick up somebody at the airport. I
guess in California, I got somebody that, hey, how's it

(01:05:04):
coming with that work project? There's nobody here. And plus
I'm not working on any work projects.

Speaker 9 (01:05:09):
If I were working on anything, of course, Gordy, Brian,
somebody like that, they're going to know and I see
them on a daily basis, so why would they text
me about it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
It's it's first of all, it's like, you're up to
the point now it's just eye rolling. I don't buy
into any of it. But I also I am to
the point where it's like who does this stuff? There's
people that prey on people well because they get away
with it. And there's back to the U when they
said the most scammed people. We got some dumb people

(01:05:39):
in our country. Dude, sorry to tell you, we just
do bingo.

Speaker 9 (01:05:43):
No, it's a bingo I mean, because that's that's a
why act. That's why we're so scammed, is because well,
the mark is there. They know that the mark is there.
But back to the group text is. Then it got
to a point where normally I don't like, you know, hey,
everybody's you know, they're ratioing that person on social media.

(01:06:04):
I'm like, all right, that seems kind of like ganging
up in high school or middle school, like let's not
do a bull it's a bully thing. But in this case,
I was like, you know what, let's have some fun.
So somebody before me had beat me to the punch
on the group text for you you have an old
outstanding toll tag violation, and they just wrote back f off,
And then I responded with, you know, I really would

(01:06:26):
give some credits if these a holes were more original
and didn't put us all on a group text ye,
And then other people started to just roast the scam,
which then that got fun. I mean the rest of
the day, my phone was blowing up until finally the
scammy just realized, all right, I'm gonna go ahead and
wave the white flag and get out of this one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Yeah. Well, you answer it sometimes and you'll you know
if you do if it's if it's call, you don't
know who it is. I usually my phone's never on rink,
so I rarely if you call me the first time,
I usually don't see it unless I'm.

Speaker 9 (01:06:54):
Hit the right if I don't have you saved, I
hit the right button right, so then you leave me
a voicemaan I all listen to it, and then I'm like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Yeah, I've had this before with somebody. You know, it's
a come they're calling because the guy's voice he's in
some country eight million miles away. And then call back
and I'll say, yeah, call me right back, or you'll
answer it. And then I got to the point where
answer I say, uh, Katie Katie Police Department, Los Angeles
Police Department, or that's how I answer Officer Jones. Yeah, click, yeah.

(01:07:22):
They they All you got to do is to tell
them you're some kind of law enforcement and they're not
hanging around because they're afraid to death. You're tracking their ass.
So that's how I've got If I don't know you
and you call like that. I and even on those
texts if you get him, if I want to have
a little fun with them, say uh, wrong number. This
is the you know, Houston Police Department HBG. Yeah, hear

(01:07:43):
from again. Now you actually got the Houston Field Office
the FBI. Yeah, how can I help you?

Speaker 11 (01:07:47):
Do?

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
Done? Done that? You don't even need to block them.

Speaker 9 (01:07:50):
Hey, yeah, yeah, you have a couple of guys outside
your window wearing uh you know windbreakers that say you know,
FBI and yellow on the back.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Yeah, navy blue wooden. Oh that's good. Hey, they finally
made it to you. Enjoy I think about all the
effort people put into scam people. If you just went
and applied for a job, you'd have, you'd have one,
and we would help. The quick fix in America dude
is palpable.

Speaker 9 (01:08:15):
I mean so, like I told you a few years ago,
one of our coaches said, oh, you know, I want
to lose weight, give me the pill.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Yeah, you know instead of dive in right, Yeah, no doubt.
It's a trip though. I get some I get I
have some fun with them. There's a reason why they
call them supplements. It's because it's supposed to supplement what
you're doing. If it was a magic pill, we'd all
be doing yeah kidding me, not having to do burpies
and everything. Damn right, I suck, dude, and the workout

(01:08:41):
we had had them, And I'm just like I thought,
once I got done playing football, I didn't have to
do updowns anymore. Well, guess what, there's no work out
these days, then I will do it updown again, unless
I'm doing it on my own ergym, by myself and
my own home gym, or by yourself. I'm not going
through a class that has me burpieing with the twenty
one our class coach, everybody through the line, start over again. Hey, buddy,

(01:09:02):
like I stopped doing this about twenty years ago. Hard
training I'm in for. Yeah, but that's one of them. Yeah,
I ain't right right right? Thanks?

Speaker 9 (01:09:10):
Yeah, you pick and choose your battles, and in this case,
you know, look, if you're on a group text from
a scammer, start.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Roasting, yes, start roasting. Yeah, don't give him your bank
account number, right with the prince who tells you he's
got it, and yeah, don't do it.

Speaker 9 (01:09:24):
Let me tell you something, Montgomery County, if you have
an outstanding warrant. They ain't calling or texting. They're showing up,
and probably when you don't want them to show up,
they're showing up.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
And you'll get something in the mail from them, right,
you know, if you're right with something, you'll get in
the mail. Yeah, they're not gonna waste their time calling you,
so don't waste your time picking it up or answering.

Speaker 9 (01:09:42):
I was gonna say, trust me, they got a lot
to deal with and you ain't really their problem.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
And amen. Yeah, and they're not coming at you that way.
But anyway, phone scams or any type of scam, a
little bit of fun today here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
All right, if you think it's bad here in Houston,
well I just want I'll let you know it can
always always get worse, and we'll discuss here. It is
the Sean Salisbury Show on a Fight Song Friday, Sports

(01:10:07):
Talk seven ninety. Well, great, great leading from my man Dan,
doctor Jeff Witst. If you have eyes that are struggling
and you need lasik, it can always get worse unless
you get better. And doctor Whitst made me better. I
moved into Houston, I thought, and I needed lasik and
not in a bad way, but just in a way
because I'm OCD, so just even the little slightest thing
where I have to squint bothered me. So I went

(01:10:30):
in a song because everybody, you know, I was waiting
for other people give me, like three other people to recommend.
They gave me one, and it just was him and
I kept hearing it. So I said, let me go
see what Doc wits it's all about, went in there
with my free consultation and made the decision. And I'm
seeing better than well than I have in thirty years.
And when I had floaters, boom, get better if you have.

(01:10:51):
He was the great eye care doctor that I needed,
and LASIK I wasn't on the table long, non invasive
work out your payment, you get it done. If you're wondering, man,
it's my eyes. I'm afraid and there's nothing to be
afraid of. You got in one of the foremost lasic
procedure doctors and care doctors when it comes to your
eyes on the planet. He's one of us. You'll see
him at the grocery store, see him at church. Hopefully

(01:11:12):
he's getting his golf game right. He keeps telling me
he hasn't played much yet. I know he's probably like
a three handicaps, so he's not sandbagging me. The key
to that is we're on it. If him and I
are playing, now, I can see my golf ball down.
Can you are you driving at night and squint and say, man,
let me grab those glasses where you got your readers
and your glass and you're carrying fourteen cases with you. Well,
if that's the case, you don't want to carry those
glass cases. Time go to doctor Jeff Whitson w H

(01:11:34):
I T S E T T seven one three three
six five ninety seven nine nine. The consultation's free. What
hurts to go and say, well, let me go test
this and see what how I feel about this. We
all have that little uncomfortable about man, it's my eyes.
No need to be afraid. Seven one three three six
five ninety seven nine nine. You'll probably say I should
have done it earlier. And you know, when that film's

(01:11:55):
lifted and you see clearly, it's like, oh my gosh,
this is awesome. There is no better and we got
him right here, and I'm grateful to be a patient,
but also he's a great friend. It's doctor Jeff witson
witsit vision dot com wits it vision dot Com.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 9 (01:12:28):
Fight Song Friday here Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven
ninety Texans getting ready for the banged up Ravens on
Sunday in Baltimore. But Derek Stingley Junior limited in practice.
Jo stay with that O bleak, so hopefully that's good news.
Forty nine ers field goal in ot to walk off
the Rams on Thursday Night, A Football twenty six, twenty
three and uh Texas Tech tomorrow night from TDECU Stadium.

(01:12:52):
Coverage is gonna get started at five o'clock and then
earlier in the day you're gonna get Texas at Florida
from the swamp in Gainesville, and coverage is gonna start
at one point thirty For that one right here on
Sports Talk seven nineties, I mentioned Sean, things can always
get worse. And one of the things that I hear
from Astros fans either on here or on Astros Twitter

(01:13:12):
is Jim Crane is cheap. Well, the Astros had the
six highest payroll in baseball, so spending power is not.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Necessarily the age twenty four.

Speaker 9 (01:13:20):
Other teams are cheaper as well, you're just going to say,
and one of them is the Pittsburgh Pirates, because the
Pittsburgh Post Gazette just did a you know, after the
season story and an unidentified player telling the media. And
that's the thing too, is then that you know always
gets criticism, why don't you put your name on it?
I mean, I know, you know people will say that,
but in this case, I mean, look, you don't want

(01:13:42):
to be known as somebody that runs to the media
and if things aren't going right or you know, any
of those things, you have a sharp comment, then it's
you know, it's something that can hurt your job security
all throughout the league. And the player said, uh, people
think we're underachieving. Look around here, we're playing to our potential.
This is about what ninety million dollars gets you. Some

(01:14:04):
of the teams we play aren't even trying to win
their rebuilding but still have a higher payroll than us.
What do you think that tells us.

Speaker 10 (01:14:13):
What team? This is?

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
The Pirates. There's a lot of that going on in
Pittsburgh right now.

Speaker 10 (01:14:18):
I can.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
About cheap no shot not giving you. Former players are
talking and current players right this is a current one
was the current one and didn't put his name ony. Yeah,
they it's as if Pittsburgh's giving them no chance. It
truthfully is and valid, but I mean, it's really hard
to win if ownership isn't all in.

Speaker 9 (01:14:42):
And what it reminds me of is, remember when Jim
Crane first took over the team. I think his first
season was what twenty twelve, I think it was his
first year, and then you know, he was he was
a lot more accessible to the media then because it's
get to know the owner all of that kind of stuff.
And somebody asked him about spending, and I remember his
first thing fired up Astros fans, not in a positive way,

(01:15:03):
in a negative way, where he was like, the spending
will happen when the revenue goes up. And his point was, look,
we build this thing the way that we're supposed to
build it, and you get these young guys up and
there are more people in the building, and you know
it's matching up with us not losing money in this venture.
Because people like him don't get into things with the

(01:15:24):
thought of, oh, you know what, I'll lose money and
that's just fine. You're not a billionaire that way, so
you understand it, but I mean it did happen, and
I understand that people will focus on Bregman going out
the door, you're trading away, Kyle Tucker not resigning, Garrett Cole,
Charlie Morton going away. I mean, the list goes on
and on, George Springer, Carlos Korea. The first time we
get it, we understand what the history is. But then

(01:15:45):
it's also too, I mean, you've locked up guys like
you were on, You've locked up guys like jose Al Tuve.
I mean, you know just I mean they they will
spend the money. But he also too, I mean he's
got a standard where he's like, we're not giving out
eight ten year deals.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Well, that's not what we're going to do here. And
I don't blame him. They rarely work. They rarely work.
He may get some love on the front side, but
in a guaranteed world of baseball and basketball players, you
get most of the time three or four years in years.

Speaker 9 (01:16:14):
I want to pay thirty five million dollars a year
for a thirty eight, thirty nine year old DH, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
No, thanks so for me, and listen to model works.
There's rings on their finger to prove it now, it's
not going to work every year, because guess what, it
doesn't work every year for everybody, even the ones it's
spinned and the Dodger's been spending for a long time.
SAMs twenty twenty. How many Worlds here is they won
since nineteen eighty eight? One? Oh? So say, as matter

(01:16:40):
of fact, I would be willing to bet that there's
been plenty of times when somebody outside the top three
pay rolls in baseball has won a World Series as
opposed to those in the top three. And it's I
think that goes for the case in every sport, expensive
doesn't always mean the best.

Speaker 9 (01:16:56):
Well, I mean the Rangers, where you get reports that
they're going to shed payroll. I mean the Mets, the
second highest payroll in all of baseball, just like you.
The last time they were in a World Series just
a few years ago. But I mean I'm talking about
one one. I guess that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
One? One? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
One?

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
One was what eighty six? Have been a long time?

Speaker 6 (01:17:15):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
It wasn't the last one?

Speaker 10 (01:17:17):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
The was it the Sox series?

Speaker 11 (01:17:19):
It?

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
Yeah, here comes night. That's not that Hell, that's even
longer than and that's even longer than when the Dodgers
eighty eight series before they won the last couple you know,
I mean in twenty twenty and last years since two
thousand times. So it doesn't ensure you of anything when
it comes to that. Now, listen, there's always times you
want to keep core players. I get it. But then
you see when you go all in, like you mentioned
the Rangers, go all in. If it doesn't work for

(01:17:43):
a couple of years, then you shed it and build
it again. So I don't have a problem. Now we
all like man, I'd love to keep him. Pay a
little extra, you know when you're talking about whether it's
the Texans or your local team, and you go all
in and it happens, and and if you win it great,
If you do, then you change up and do some
different things. So I don't have I don't have a

(01:18:04):
problem with Jim Crane's business model. I just don't because
think about this, if everybody in the league get rid
of the controversy that's around twenty seventeen, just talk to
general managers or players, coaches, anybody that's in baseball, how
would they describe the Astros franchise the last decade?

Speaker 9 (01:18:26):
Well, part of the belief of why they've had so
much scrutiny since the cheating scandal is that people were
pissed that they were getting it done the way that
they were getting it done.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Because getting it done without overspending and being on the
right ring and developing players in the minor league. And
the teams were like, you're making us look bad. So
when they had the opportunity to pounce on them, they did.
But in a private room, You're and I are sitting
and having a beer. Is there anybody in baseball that
says would describe them as anything? Put away the cheating
stamp for a second, even if they didn't want to.
I'm talking about Listen, you can have a grit. You

(01:18:57):
think the Buffalo Bills are a successful organization? Overly? No,
you don't. No, So four super Bowls with one group,
I didn't say rings. I'm talking about a successful organization.
They're not the first ones I look to Now, I
didn't say first I know. I said, so you look
at them as a failure organization for the most part, Yeah,
to see, I don't. I look at them as a
consistent winner, even though they have a ring. I know

(01:19:18):
that we judge them by rings. Okay, was Marino a
failure individually?

Speaker 14 (01:19:24):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
But team accomplishments. Well, that's why it's a team gain.
It's not fair to just put it on one guy.

Speaker 10 (01:19:28):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
But point is, as you look around Kansas City Chiefs
before Andy Reid got there, solid organization, solid I.

Speaker 9 (01:19:39):
Mean, because that's the thing is, I mean, what what
were we talking about before that? Hank Stream now is
over fifty years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
Right exact, Lenny Dawson.

Speaker 16 (01:19:46):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
So my point that I'm trying to make is, even
if you don't, you would never look at the Dodgers
as a failure organization from you do now when you're
spending that much money, say that season was a failure
because they went all in. But you still look at
the Dodgers in the ink, he's a successful organized the
sure Steelers and I'm not even talking about nineteen twice
something exactly right, forty nine ers and the Steelers haven't
been in since Bailey. It's been a while since they've

(01:20:08):
been in a Super Bowl. So now you look at
the Arizona Cardinals and team that you say they got
a long way to go. I get that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
The point I'm making is you would describe the Astros
as a six the last ten years. Anybody that gets
rid of their bitterness, you'd say this is a successful organization.
I think that they're in the same category as the Chiefs. Fair,
I mean, but even the.

Speaker 9 (01:20:31):
Chiefs had more success because that was what made twenty
seventeen so amazing. I mean, I remember, you know, this
is awesome. I finally got to see a world title.
But the first thought that I had was, this is
all those empty days in the Dome. This is all
those empty days at Minute Made Park, Like this is
justin Maxwell in your lineup, that's all of these other
things like where I'm like, you had to go through
the mile of you know what to be Andy dufrein

(01:20:53):
to get to the other side.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Okay, get rid of Uh. When's the last time the
Ravens won a Super Bowl? Was it when they beat
the few thousand?

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Thirteen? Okay, so we're we're twelve years right, Yeah, Harball
versus US? Yeah, Joe Flacco deal, all right? So are
they a successful organization since then?

Speaker 11 (01:21:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
I would say the Ravens are. And how many championships?
Say one cents point? That's my and they want to
hear so the point, the overall point I'm making is championships. Yes,
that validates it and puts the exclamation point. You can
still be a successful organization because there's only one that
wins it every year. So as a runner up considered
a failure. That's how people look at Buffalo when we
were at the time I was playing and they'd gone

(01:21:32):
to four Super Bowls during my era, I didn't look
at him. I said, well four times, that's a bummer.
But nobody I know in the league said Buffalo, what
a what a failure they are? You'd say that's a
good team, just can't get over the top, we say
with players and the rest of it. So there is,
but we judge them by championships and then just like
not just a successful, a dominant A what do we

(01:21:52):
call it a a what's a franchise that dominates for
three is what we call it a dynasty? Dynasty? Thank you?

Speaker 10 (01:21:59):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
So anybody that judges this organization says, eh, they're cheap,
don't do it the right way. Anybody that's spinning in
the top ten is not a cheap organization. It's just
certain players because you didn't overpay them or pay them
what they wanted. Makes it feel cheap. They're not cheap.
They're smart.

Speaker 9 (01:22:17):
I say it all the time. People have forgotten what
it really means to be an Astros fan.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Right, if you pay Kyle Tucker four hundred million right now,
do you think for ten years, do you think you're
getting the last three years worth it?

Speaker 14 (01:22:28):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
Okay, well they're not close there you go. No, let's
Bregman the same way. Yeah, yeah, as much as I
love him the same way. Yeah, Now five or six years,
I'm able to you're going to struggle to get the
full value out of from Er if the things don't
change for six years. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:22:42):
Yeah, And then you do that with Bregman and then
it's you know, the April and May and it's just
like ah Man, massive overpay. Then you start getting the
booze and all of that. Trust me, I know this goes.
I've been I'm not new here, right, I've been watching
for a while. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
So success doesn't always just mean champion chips, because there's
some teams that have stuck in and won a championship,
but you could still look at and say that's not
a great organization. They happen to have that you know,
caught up lightning in a bottle, right, So it exists
both ways. I don't have problem with them, and we're
all frustrated when you don't get a guy. Hell, I
want him, go and get Dylan Cees. I'd love it
if they would have jumped into the Sodo stuff. But

(01:23:17):
come on, man, five hundred plus million or what seven
hundred six hundred million whatever it was first? Was that
seven hundred seven hundred three quarters of a billion dollars
for a guy player? And how many suits doesn't play
right field?

Speaker 10 (01:23:28):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
Yeahy the way at all? He's truly at left fielders.

Speaker 9 (01:23:32):
Well he legit dropped a flight ball that was routine
in right field at the wall.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
Okay, So if he goes his whole career with the
Mets for the next five years without a without wins
the World Series, yes, great player, Hall of Famer if
it continues. But you would look at the Mets and say,
that's not a successful organization, Bobby Bonia, that's what it is,
and with even more talent. Right, it's exactly right. So

(01:23:58):
see how that works?

Speaker 10 (01:23:59):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
I Now you look at us, say, is one guy
on a team? Well, did they make the playoffs? No, okay,
he had a great year, but did they make the playoffs?
They absolutely did not get the most bang for you got.

Speaker 9 (01:24:11):
That's right, seven one three, two one two five, seven
ninety the number get in talking some astros right here
on a Fight Song Friday edition, Seawan Salisbury Show.

Speaker 13 (01:24:23):
Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety anchors away here.

Speaker 9 (01:24:51):
On a fight Song Friday, Go Navy beat Army, Never
give up the ship boys. That's a little bit later
on this season, but it is Sean's by show. Sports
Talks seven to ninety Texans getting ready for the Ravens
on Sunday in Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
The forty nine ers walk off the Rams last.

Speaker 9 (01:25:09):
Night a field goal in overtime twenty six, twenty three,
Thursday Night Football in the Tigers as well as the
Cubs and Yankees moving on to the next round of
baseball's postseason. I'll tell you what I want to give Roger.
I want to give rob as much time as possible,
So we'll a lie of you guys do that. As so,
continuing some astros conversation, do have one more thing to

(01:25:30):
astros wise to get into in the eight o'clock the hour,
Then let's get back into the football conversation, because after all,
it is a fight song Friday here on the Shawn
Salisbury Show. So we want to be able to pay
homage to Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
During this amazing time of the year that we have
all of that right here. Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk
seven ninety Hey, DNM Leasing just delivered a truck to
a customer who had listened to D and M for
more than twenty five years. Think about that, and he'd
been hearing these commercials forever, right for decades, he believed
leasing was just renting a car. I put air quotes,
something you only did if you couldn't afford to buy.

(01:26:03):
And who hasn't been there, right guys. But DNM Leasing's
here to change that. That changed when the dealership offered
him an eighty four month loan. He knew he'd trade
the truck in in a few years, and he knew
he'd end up well upside down again owing more than
it was worth. Well, that's when he remembered the DNM commercials.
Ever seen a Texas title and when you trade in

(01:26:25):
a long finance contract, the only thing you own is
negative equity. Those quotes. So he called DNM leasing showed
him is that leasing isn't about what you can afford.
It's simply the smarter way most people pay for their vehicles.
Smarter see what smarter does for you, And DNM leasing
is smart. Leasing isn't renting. Let me say it again.
Leasing isn't renting. It's smarter. Who doesn't want smarter? Harder

(01:26:49):
doesn't always work. Smarter does, and especially when it puts
money in your pocket and makes it easier for you
at the beginning, the middle, and the end. Dial seven
one three two nine zero one thousand, seven one three
two nine zero one thousand, or visit us at dn
M it's DNM leasing, dmauto Leasing dot com, dmauto leasing

(01:27:10):
dot com. They continue to win awards and there's a
reason why dn M it's dmauto Leasing dot Com.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
Am E Houston at v HD two Houston.

Speaker 13 (01:27:20):
Astros, the Rockets, Rockets Basketball, your home for your home teams.
This is Sports Talk seven ninety Make Houston Sports the
number one precepts on your car radio and the new
it improved iHeartRadio app free never sounded so good, Saysbury Houston.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
Okay, let's do this, Sean Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
Salbury, USC Tropes longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
Dan Matthews, Hugh, this is the Sean Salsbury show.

Speaker 9 (01:28:02):
Texans getting ready for the Ravens on Sunday. Derek Stingley
limited on the practice field. Yes, they love to see that.
Tiger's Cubs, Yankees all moving on to the next round
of the postseason. And Ross Dellinger Yahoo Sports reporting the
NCAA Basketball Tournament could expand to seventy six teams in
twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven. Remember I talked
about the private equity, you know, capital investment with the

(01:28:25):
Big Ten yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
I'm just telling you you're gonna see more and more
of these things.

Speaker 9 (01:28:29):
I mean, the Big Tens are excuse me, the Big
twelve is gonna go play in London for a game
next year.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
It's gonna be the model as opposed. It's gonna be
everybody's gonna do it. Any money grab possible is going
to happen. Oh hey, we're an institution of higher learning.

Speaker 9 (01:28:43):
Yeah, you're also an institution that, even though a lot
of you say your nonprofit, you don't mind at least
the athletics side, because that's how they get around it.
The athletic side is on its own. So then you know,
the athletic side can make a bunch of money and
then it's you know, hey, kick it up to the
big film. And if you don't believe it, they're peeing
in your face. Tell you it's right, right right. That's why,
that's why it cracks me up. Oh, these these you know,

(01:29:04):
are great student athletes. Stop pleasetop stop it. Yeah, there
may be they may want to be a student. But
to continue to refer to that is talk about old
and now fake news. That's exactly what that ended about
thirty years ago. In fact, seven one, two, five, seventy ninety.
Talking Astros right now, Roger wants to get us going, Roger, good.

Speaker 17 (01:29:24):
Morning, Oh, good morning, gentlemen. Hey, I really a little
a couple of comments, but yeah, talking about the Astros.
And I know, Bregg, you've out of the out of
the playoffs, man, and I'm living in a fantasy world,
so just bear with me, man, What kind of what
what kind of tone shitting lineup would be for? Have
Penia Penia Bregman uh Paraders or Penia Bregman Alvarez and

(01:29:50):
then any combination of whoever's left just to just to
wear out a picture, just to start a game that's
at least a twenty pitch count.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
So you just just basically just throw Carlos Korea anywhere.

Speaker 17 (01:30:02):
I'm saying it is anywhere any of those any of
those guys that they know how to work account.

Speaker 9 (01:30:09):
And Roger Roger, My point, Roger, give me a second.
My point is is it's not gonna happen like it's
just it's just it's a non argument.

Speaker 17 (01:30:17):
It's the word fantasy land. I got you just saying, well.

Speaker 9 (01:30:22):
That's exactly, that's exactly where it's going to reside, just
because I mean again, I was just.

Speaker 17 (01:30:27):
Hey, and I can dream, dreamers to dream, baby, I'm
just saying I was just saying that that that would Hey.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
Roger, just just Roger, Roger, Roger, before you go, Roger, Roger, Roger,
listen to Saw Roger before you go. Because I'm intriguing.
I mean, I hell working account I love the thought process.
It'd be great. Uh, the question is how much would
you have to pay? Bregman And I don't and you
and I both know or think it's not gonna happen.
But let me ask you this just for fun, where
would you where would you play? Give me the lineup?

(01:30:55):
If they're all here and you added Bregman, I am here,
are you putting created first base and letting Walker walk?
To tell me what you'd do?

Speaker 17 (01:31:03):
I mean, I would, I would, I would keep of course,
bag went a third. Korea plays either either second or
or or shortstop. But then you got pain so you
gotta put the painting a short stop. I don't know.
You'd have to see what you see out of parentis
and Korea who plays where? And then I mean, yeah,
I means first mate, you got you can move Walker,

(01:31:26):
which would be uh, you know, a welcome, a welcome move.
But I mean just any any of those.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
And left alt A and left.

Speaker 10 (01:31:37):
Gonna have to be d H.

Speaker 17 (01:31:38):
They're gonna have to swim fop dhs and you know,
depending on lineups and matchups. But it's a fun it's
a fun problem.

Speaker 6 (01:31:45):
The hat.

Speaker 17 (01:31:48):
Close. He's not getting close to forty million dollars. I
don't know why he opted out of that contract. That's
probably gonna be the only time he'll get forty million
a year with those three mini years with the with
the Red Sox. But yeah, he's not getting nower tost
affording million. You have to be an idiot to pay
that much. But they're out there, like you know, we've
seen him before. Uh Kyle Suckers in line to get

(01:32:08):
one of those huge deals and another you know, he's
another playoff no show. So we'll see what happens for
us that you guys have a great weekend, Go Cougars
and how And just switching back to the to the NFL.
Did you get a load of that Gruden clip or comment?
Considering C. J. Stroud And I'll get your answer in
the football segment.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
I appreciate, appreciate it. Roger did not. I'll have to
let him straight to Roger. Yeah, there you go. I
have to look up that. What do you say?

Speaker 9 (01:32:34):
Said Stroud? So I'll look that up because you know
how big of a fan I am of coach Cruden.
But the other couple of things, I mean, number one,
you're not moving paying off shortstop like that's non especially age.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
You want to preserve his legs at.

Speaker 9 (01:32:48):
This time, So him moving to third base is the
best thing to ever happen to him for his back,
his ankle and some of the other things that you
want to be able to have as much of Carlos
Carea as possible and may be a more powerful Carlos Korea.
Then put him at third base and keep him there
at third base. I mean with Walker, the other part
of this, The only way you're moving him this offseason

(01:33:10):
is if you eat a pretty decent amount of that money.
And I don't think the Astros are going to be
in the market.

Speaker 10 (01:33:15):
To do that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
What's Bragnant going to get?

Speaker 9 (01:33:18):
I mean, I think he I think he believes what
the season he had, and he did have a good season,
and he did have the injury in the middle, it
was a good season. So I mean, I think he
still can get a pretty decent.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
You think he's made a forty million a year for
five years. He wouldn't have opted out if he didn't
think so that's two hundred million for five years. I mean,
what did we just talk about earlier with the Dodgers. Yeah, well, oh,
somebody will pay it.

Speaker 9 (01:33:42):
I mean, I know that San Francisco has Matt Chapman
over at third base, but they want to be competitive again.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
Would you go forty million a year for three years?
That's what he just had and he just opted out
of it, right, but would you go that again? If
you're a team out there, absolutely I would for sure,
But you'd go forty million for five years? I mean,
it's not mine I'm talking about. If you I'm saying
you're the GM, would you for him? Yes, I would

(01:34:08):
for what you get with the glove and consistency. Yes,
I was just we were just forty million dollars and
Bregman's a really good player. I love him, and I'm
you know, if he leaves a Red Sox it'll bug me.
There's no doubt I want him there. But you think
you're gonna get the value out of Devors all the
way around in San Francisco with all that money he's making.
The answer is no, he'll get he'll he'll produce the plate,

(01:34:31):
he'll hit two forty, But not the way in Boston, right, Well,
a little easier park to hit it.

Speaker 9 (01:34:35):
Yeah, the West Coast is for the most part, unless
you play for the Dodgers, that's where hitters go to
die in San Diego.

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
So I'm just saying it's worth it. But man, did
we start We are forty million a year contracts and
it's not my money, Like I'm not getting their wallet
I'm just thinking if I'm an owner now, the question
is is Bregman gonna want more than five years?

Speaker 9 (01:34:55):
Who's his agent? Wells Scott Boris, So don't you think
that's Scott Boris? Probably already star.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
Basically, it was talking with some teams of hey, hey,
if we we opt out of here, you know what
will we be thinking? Here's another thing. And I'm gonna
say it. I've said it loudly and I'm not even
gonna yell right now to say it because it's I'm
it's exhausting. I'm never ever in the history. All you
did in Boston, you got to the playoffs. He's a
really good player. It helped you ship off big money

(01:35:22):
to a guy who was a pain in the ass
in the organization endeavors. You got him for one year.
Now you're gonna try to sign him. But giving him
an opt out has now created he hold every card
on you. He used you as a bridge, just like
with Tilman for Tita hate Well, he eats a bridge
because he's gonna milk you for far more. But you're

(01:35:46):
gonna milk you for far more. What if you just said, hey, listen,
we're giving you three year contract for for one hundred
and twenty last year when when he was free agent
with yes, all right, I'm going to Detroit. Oh great,
see you later. And if you're Detroit, okay, well i'll
give you one twenty five for three years. But you're
not getting an opt out. I don't. The only way
to stop it is to quit doing it, because they

(01:36:07):
they are going to use USA bage. Remember when Tilman Fertita,
when Tom Raman, they kept leaving, going somewhere else. They'd
come here, build a program, and then finally said, we're
not doing that anymore. This is not your bridge program.
This is the program. And I'm just to the point.
Well somebody said, well, Sean, that's not realistic negotiation. Yeah
it is. I don't have to give a guy a
no trade and I don't have the guarantee. Is all

(01:36:29):
that money I paid you I'm not using to me,
it's just a slap in the face. Yeah, come to
Boston and we know we're only gonna get you for
a year. Use us to put up your numbers. Hopefully
we'll win a World Series. And they didn't. They got eliminated,
and so they're going to their off season and then
we'll turn around and we'll pay you forty five for
five what you just got rid of that guy? You

(01:36:49):
get my and he wasn't making forty five. My point is,
as much I love Bregman, it's not even just him,
it's anybody wire these organizations to the point that you
think they can empower you to say, now, dude, here
like a Minnesota I would have never given him an
opt out the first year and the second year creb never,
just like they wouldn't hear why why would you? It's

(01:37:11):
basically saying, dude, we're renting you man, we know you're
gonna go, we know you want to use us. And
did you think Minnesota thought they were winning a World
Series when Kraig got there. No, of course not so
to me. You asked for opt out, contract negotiation done finished, Well, Sean,
you're not gonna get good players. All get plenty of
good players. I don't need to give you an opt out.

(01:37:31):
You know where, you know where, you know where, you
know where I win. I'm paying you forty two million
dollars a year for four years. You're not opting out
because I basically complimenting, say I want you as a
part of this organization now and a ten year deal.
You want an opt out at seven years? Now, we
can talk because I may want to get your ass
out anyway the two if it's a two way street,
right nah, Or it's one of those where it's like

(01:37:53):
it's it's a team option or a player option. It's
seven years, we have the option to push you out
the door. I just to me, I would never do it.
I would. And when you talk about, well, this quarterback
got to no trade clause, why would I give a
quarterback no trade clause? I just isn't basically me guaranteeing
you two hundred and thirty million dollars basically saying I

(01:38:15):
can't trade you.

Speaker 9 (01:38:16):
Well, I mean especially too, if you're gonna make somebody comfortable,
you want to make sure that that's the right guy
to make comfortable.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
And look what it does to you to encourage more
player empowerment, even if the guy's not playing well, no
trade clause and you're stuck with him, yeah, showing up
and collecting. Yeah, I got my money. I can't do it.
Bregman three four years, thirty eight to forty million, even
made forty milue. Like you said, I'm not giving a guy.
I'm not giving him or anybody else opt out in
year three and we'll give you forty five million a

(01:38:43):
year for seven years. No offense. Didn't win him a
World Series this year, and I love the guy and
I want him back in Boston. But you basically are saying, yeah,
use us as a bridge, dude, use this any way
you want, and then go out and get bigger money
somewhere else. I just have never understood the concept make
me a GM. I'll never I mean give a g
a no trade close or an opt out. If you

(01:39:03):
want that, go somewhere else. That's not what I'm doing here. Well,
there are.

Speaker 9 (01:39:07):
Teams, and I mean the one in this city seems
like they're one of the ones that say.

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
Yeah, that's why I buy into the model. So oh
you want that, now go use somebody else as your bridge.
You ain't doing it here. We want guys that are
committed to staying here, and forty million dollars a lot
of money. We'll find somebody. Robin John, get you involved.
You want to join. Seven one three, two one two
five seven ninety is the number in addition to that one.

Speaker 9 (01:39:29):
Other astros note because I said it a couple of
days ago. I need this like I need blood coursing
through my veins. We'll talk about that right here on
the Shawn Salisbury Show Sports Talk at seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
But today's Kruger Minute brought to.

Speaker 9 (01:39:43):
You by Wrangler as UH springs Texas Tech to td
ECU tomorrow night for a battle of unbeaten teams.

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
But here's the problem. Koog's are a little banged up
for this one.

Speaker 9 (01:39:56):
So the Big Twelve has injury reports and at UH
has nine players that are already ruled out.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
For this one at tomorrow night.

Speaker 9 (01:40:03):
We know about three of them because running back Rashaun
Stanford the second he's done for the year. Same goes
for offensive tackle David and Dukeway and tight end Jaden York.
But the remaining six receiver Devin Williams, defensive back Kensie West,
and defensive lineman Rashad Sterling and Quandario Lee, as well
as tight end Travelle Frederick Junior and also receiver Anthony

(01:40:25):
Gangee Junior, They're all going to miss tomorrow night's game.
And Tomorrow night's game between the Kug's and Red Raiders
from TDECU Stadium is gonna kick off at six o'clock,
and we're gonna get the coverage started at five o'clock
over on KPRC nine to fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:40:38):
This has been in another Cougar minette brought to you
by Wrangler.

Speaker 3 (01:40:44):
Let the celebration start war Sewn Salisbury. It's a Sewn
Salisbury show.

Speaker 9 (01:41:00):
Hight So on Friday, Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven
ninety Texans and Ravens Sunday from Baltimore forty nine ers
Thursday Night football takeouts the Rams with a walk off
field goal in overtime, and you've h going to take
on at Texas Tech tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
TDCU Stadium.

Speaker 9 (01:41:19):
Coverage again over on our sister station, KPRC nine fifty
starts at five o'clock, continuing the Astros conversation. Seven one
three two one two five seven ninety is the way
to get in. Rob wants to get in. Good morning Rob,
Good morning guys.

Speaker 12 (01:41:35):
I'll try and keep it short and simple as far
as you know the money spending goes. If baseball has
shown us one thing, and you know the last ten
to fifteen years, it's it's not. It's more of a
science than a math equation. You know, it's it's not
just about the numbers. It's about having the right butts
in the right seats. And to give you guys a
couple of examples, I was thinking about it before I

(01:41:57):
got on the call. You take the Devil Rays in
Cleveland Guardians. They outside of Jose Ramirez on the Guardians,
who don't get near enough credit for what he does
year in year out, those guys don't have any studs
compared to a lot of the other lineups across the MLB,
and they managed to scrap their way year in year out.

(01:42:19):
You know, maybe not the Rays this year, but every
other year it seems like they're just an annoying, pesky
team that seems to find their way into the playoffs
where everyone is just kind of scratching their heads. And
to counter that, as far as spending money goes, you
look at the Yankees and they spend as much, if
not more money than any team every offseason and they

(01:42:42):
can't ever win a ring. And personally, I don't think
they ever will so long as they still have Aaron
Boone at the helm, because God knows he's had the
talent to be able to do it consecutive years, and
he just never finds a way to screw it up
every single year. But and you know the same with
the Dodgers this year. They I went into this year going,
what's the point of even playing these guys anymore or

(01:43:02):
even playing in the league, because we know how it's
gonna end up. But they were not nearly as dominant
as I think any of us expected them to be,
including themselves. When you look at it, and I'll give
you guys one more thing to be to consider and
talk about, and then I'll hang up. I'm worried about
the Athletics personally. They're a bottom payroll team year in
and year out, and I'm telling you they've got some

(01:43:23):
young talent that's coming up. Nick Kurtz, in my opinion,
is the scariest hitter in the game. He outdes Otani
when it comes to hitting. He's outdone Judge when it
comes to hitting.

Speaker 10 (01:43:33):
He is.

Speaker 12 (01:43:34):
He's gonna be a pest for us and everybody in
our league for a while. And they had that shortstop
Jacob Wilson come up. They lock up a couple of
good starting pitchers, and I think they've got a shot
to take over this league within the next two years,
maybe even next year, And.

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
That ballpark's gonna enhance it too. My man, that ballpark's
gonna enhance it. You know what I'm saying. There's gonna
be a different energy when they get to Vegas, no question.
I'm with you one hundred percent. I think that guy
is I think Kurtz is going to be a star
in this league for a long time. And they're they're
they're young and exciting, and I love their GM. He's
a friend, but I love him too, So you make

(01:44:11):
a phenomenal point with you. One hundred percent. I appreciate it.
Roger Rob so Rob great stuff, and he's right, dude,
that's a that's a dangerous team.

Speaker 11 (01:44:19):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:44:19):
If they'll at least give Billy something to work with, right,
not just a ballpark, but money and say, okay, we
got a little more. We can give you a little more.
They can't. They're they're they're nasty, they're young hitters are
that guy's really really good.

Speaker 9 (01:44:34):
Spending is great, but it doesn't ensure that you're going
to win. As a fact, Scouting and developments is what
can help you, and the spending is going to supplement
you because I mean the Yankees for the most part,
He's correct.

Speaker 10 (01:44:46):
On that.

Speaker 9 (01:44:47):
But I mean, look at a guy like Schlitler last night.
That's one of their guys, Volpi, who has he been
an All Star but has had a pretty decent career.
I mean, even look back when they dominated in the
late nineties nearly two thousands, who was it was their guys.
It was Pettitt, it was Pisada, it was Jeter for
the most people go. So I mean, like, you know,

(01:45:07):
and we even saw it with the Astros too. And
the Astros have signed free agents, they've they've you know,
taken chances with that, but what has sustained them Altuve, Bregman, Springer,
like you know, you get my point. The guys that
you brought up through your own system and then the
guys behind them that you had in your own systems.
So I mean, that's what wins in this league. It's
not necessarily saying, hey we won the off season. Winning

(01:45:30):
the off seasons great, but doesn't necessarily mean that it's
going to translate to wins on the field.

Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
John wants to get in, John, good morning.

Speaker 3 (01:45:38):
Hey guys, you stole my thunder.

Speaker 16 (01:45:40):
I was, but no, you know, the way I've been
calling in, I mean, I believe and I've been wanting
the Astros to go back to the old formula, like
building up the farm system, building up the young players.
I mean that sort of worked for him, That sort
of that what that's what will work for them again
if they get back to it. I think like paying
Egman that kind of money is that's crazy. But but

(01:46:03):
I think the Astros need to just get back to
what worked for him, you know, like uh metrics and
the farm system and just working on that. I mean,
that's what's gonna you know, you're right, you hit on it.
I think Oakland is going to be a team to watch.
I mean, Billy Bean is just he's amazing, you know,
finding these players and stuff and and developing that. You know,

(01:46:25):
if he has somebody to play with, I mean, it'd
be it'd be stunning what he could probably accomplish. But
but yeah, I I just want to see the Astros
again just focus back to the old formula that worked.
And I think that's what they gotta do. And and
I wanted one other real quick question on college football.

Speaker 17 (01:46:44):
You know, the.

Speaker 16 (01:46:45):
Streaming and all the big money dictating what's gonna who's
gonna play who, what's what's going on? Do you think
that the conferences will eventually go away. I just wanted
to think, get your thoughts on that, and I'll hang
up and listen.

Speaker 1 (01:46:58):
All right, thanks, thanks John. The NC the Big four
are going to control college football, So the n C
two A is not going to be the governing body
down the road. It's gonna be the College Football Playoff
or somebody. They're gonna pro up this thing where the
n C two A may handle all the other ones. Right,
They're not going to handle the Big four conferences just.

Speaker 9 (01:47:18):
Because I mean, it's gonna finally be where cooler heads
prevail with the SEC and the Big Ten, and they're like, hey,
you know, we should probably be working together on this,
and then you know, we can line each other's pockets.

Speaker 1 (01:47:27):
So let's do that.

Speaker 9 (01:47:28):
And then people all the time, oh, college football needs
a commissioner. Well, sixty eight teams, you can probably have
somebody that throws out fines and does all the other
kind of stuff and controls the rules.

Speaker 1 (01:47:38):
Union's coming for the players. It has to, because it's
we're as close to pro sports as we've ever been.
You're gonna take those four big ones and align them
however you do it, and they're going to play for
their national title and the rest we're going to play
for another one, and the fcs will still have there.
That's the way it's going to go because the truth
of the matter is there's a couple of teams you're
just never gonna win it and the other one. So

(01:47:59):
to give yourself a chance for your revenue, they're going
to separate them and those big four conferences are going
to run their own. Now we'll get rid of the
conference we're already tried to where it's no longer North
in the South and these it's the top two teams
of the sixteen are going. Yeah, we see that happen
now all the time, so they're they're they're evolving into that.
So to answer your question, John, yes, that's gonna go
away and the Big four and it's gonna end up

(01:48:21):
forming their own and the national championship will be played.
Their playoff will be with those four sixty teams, right,
not sixty teams in the playoffs, So however many there is,
but that's where you're gonna find it. The other ones
will be playing for a national championship elsewhere.

Speaker 9 (01:48:35):
Remember who taught people in n Cuba doesn't have subpoena power.
You played quarterback at college at Texas A and m
his attorney told them, don't talk to them.

Speaker 3 (01:48:42):
You don't have to.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
What are they going to do? Seriously, what are they
they can do?

Speaker 9 (01:48:46):
What are they gonna do Suspend you on you know,
punish you on circumstantial evidence they do that will take
them the court. That's exactly right, And that's what Michigan
and others finally decided where it's Hey, we're the n CUBA.

Speaker 1 (01:48:56):
Yeah it's great. Yeah, cool, and enjoy your tour of
campus because you ain't talking to any of us. Yeah,
it's and it's the n c two A is the
weakest governing body of a major sport that.

Speaker 9 (01:49:05):
They finally had their legs cut out from underneath them,
either legally or even by the ones who finally said,
oh you want to come after us.

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
They're they're more powerful. Dancy to it. They're they're hanging
on by a thread. All they have is all they
have is the basket dissolve. Yeah, that's exactly what that's
that's about it. And if they don't keep paying, or
if they if they keep doing what they're doing, they
won't have the basketball tournament. Understand, because if you're if
you're a network like CBS, where are you going? You
follow in the n C two A, you follow the

(01:49:34):
big boys, the guys, You'll follow Duke in Kansas and
all the others. Yeah, ones here, it's it's coming. I
don't know when, but it's coming, just as quickly as
we saw ni L and transfer portal. What that happened overnight?

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
Did you have what?

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
This may not happen overnight, but I got news for you.
It'll happen while you're on vacation at some point. It's happening.
All right.

Speaker 9 (01:49:52):
We'll continue the astronus conversation a little bit later because
I want to give you guys a chance. So it's
it's about Martin Maldonado. If you follow me on Twitter
at Dan Matthews, h O, you know what I'm talking
about with that. But we'll do that a little bit
later on. But a little bit more college football because
Texas plays Florida tomorrow, and what if I told you
that you have more than just Longhorn fans cheering for

(01:50:15):
them tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:50:16):
We'll discuss that here.

Speaker 9 (01:50:17):
It is a Sean Salisbury show on a Fight Song Friday,
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
D and M auto leasing. It is not renting question
comes up all the time or people concerned about it.

Speaker 10 (01:50:29):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (01:50:29):
I like to know how much you're paying for your vehicle,
the one you bought, and curious did you take out
eighty four ninety six months that bank you went to
get the loan and it's it's five six years and
you're like seven years and like that's a what wait
home mortgage? They better start sleeping in the damn thing. Well,
D and m Audol Leasing has a better option for you.

(01:50:51):
They just do. They've been in business almost fifty years
and fifty thousand plus happy clients and driving the roads,
award win and it's the foremost when it comes to leasing,
really it stops there. It's DNM auto leasing and I
love it because, well, there are these questions for me.
Don't you want think about the money you put down?

(01:51:12):
Although it requires this down. What if you could lease
and don't have to put anything down? What if you
could also lease and your payments are lower? Don't we
can't we all find something better to do with our money.
I'm driving this unbelievable fully loaded twenty twenty five, Tahoe
and I love it and their customer service off the charts,
delivered it to your house and then they turn around

(01:51:33):
and get it an uber. I know that may be
small to some, but those little things are what build
big things. And I'll tell you what's not little is
the money and the loan you're getting on your home
upside down? Is that what you want to be with that?
I'm telling you look into this DNM auto Leasing change
in the game, but see relate to the party. If
you think they're changing the game, they done changed it

(01:51:55):
a long time ago. So get on board. Go check
them out. D M auto Leasing dot Com, d M
auto Leasing dot Com. It's not renting, we're fact. The
Shawn Salisbury Show continued Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety,

(01:52:38):
Fight Song Friday around these parts. Yeah, you gonna get
the horns in Florida Gators tomorrow one thirty right here
on Sports Talk seven ninety and then later that night,
won't you kick it over to kPr C nine fifty
if you're not inside td ECU Stadium, or maybe you
want to go old school with it. Remember how you
know the old days of people with headphones on in
there because you want to listen to whoever you're play

(01:52:59):
by play guy. Yes, you know, it was really big
on that Archie Manning. They would show him all the
time when Peyton or Eli were playing and he had
the headphones on and I covered both those guys in
college did a game and I like, at halftime, I
went and saw Archie was the pre game. It was
halftimes at l and he had to pull his ear

(01:53:20):
face out. Yeah that's true. It's a fact that he's
he's still carrying around because he's get out. Hell, Archie
been around those guys. Wouldn't be surprised that the old
Miss game if Archie the broadcasters knew each other with
arch played, right, those guys they are they are dialed
in and immersed into their team. And I get it
because you know what you're going to get. I love
that man. And when you went to die, I used
to dodge stadium all time. Yeah. Hell, a third of

(01:53:41):
the fans there they were playing ven do the old
what was it walkman headphones that had like the little
Intendo on it. They're they're sitting there and some of
them got a score book. They're keeping score, but they're
listening to Vin Sculley, it's time for Dodgers baseball.

Speaker 9 (01:53:56):
Yeah yeah, a farmer job, farmer John hot dogs about
Da Dina.

Speaker 1 (01:54:01):
What I used to always love is because you know
he would do it to seventy six y yeah, right,
all right there.

Speaker 9 (01:54:07):
In left field is when he would do the in
nineteen fifty seven, Duke Snyder, you know, telling me and
then I always loved where you know, the field's behind him,
and he'd have the microphone.

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
He'd go, now, let's get back.

Speaker 10 (01:54:19):
To this one.

Speaker 1 (01:54:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, dude, And he there's no better storyteller
in the world, like he look up John Memory, look
up Vin Scully, Johnny Gomes Wolf story and you're just like,
how do you know that? Right? Like, like how do
you even know that this is a possibly true story?
I hate to say this, but I don't hate to
say it. Is that Vinnie was He's one of those

(01:54:41):
guys you feel like you're supposed to call him mister Scully.
But Vin Wilks, right, I met me too, say it
was saying, I'm like, I can't call you Vin. The
reverence I have for and everybody else that has for
for Vin Scully is you're You're right. The recall of
the stories and where he gets them from and how
he sets it up up and if it goes. Vin

(01:55:01):
Scully was one broadcaster and there's there's a handful out
there over the course of time that if you when
you have somebody next to him, you actually muddies the water. Yeah,
you don't need an analyst with him. I've got a
game analyst. Now you don't. Now, we saw one guy
on radio and that's it's all you Ben, That's exactly right.

(01:55:22):
I don't want people. God, what do you have if
you're the guy booth with them, Yeah, and if you're
the guy sitting next to you're like, do I really
want this gig? I love it and I'm honored, but
I'm not talking. Yeah, I'm gonna sit here and I'm
going to spot for him. Talk do what you gotta do. Incredible, man,
I love storytelling. So real quick here before we get
to the college football thing. I had by the way,
the Texans and uh Baltimore on Sunday and then also

(01:55:45):
to the Tigers, Cubs, and Yankees all moving on to
the next round of the postseason. But Brian Snicker just
you know, stepped away from managing Braves and I remember
it was I was still in Atlanta when Vin had
died and told the story that I guess on Sunday
Games they would have mass there at Dodger Stadium. Priest

(01:56:07):
would be there, you know, do all of it. Vin
Scully would do the readings.

Speaker 9 (01:56:11):
And he said, you're just sitting there in mass, and
it's almost like the Voice of God is a reading
from the Book of Saint Paul to the Ephesians.

Speaker 1 (01:56:18):
I got news for you. You'll immerse yourself in a scripture.
Vin Scully's talking about it. I think there is Vin
Scully reads the Bible. I think that there is a
book on tape Vin Scully. Why wouldn't you in the
Book of Leviticus, Now, why wouldn't you? Then God said
to him, well, it feels like he'd been sitting next
to God because he was so I mean, the voy
it felt like you felt like, oh, yeah, I was waiting.

(01:56:40):
You're waiting for a story, man. I remember, not because
he's old, just because of who he is, Like, yeah,
I remember a story when I was talking to Jesus.
You know, we were having a conversation like okay, dude,
what was it like? So that was what a pleasure.
When people say you don't watch for listen for the broadcasters,
not in that case. He was one. Absolutely he tuned
in for that, and you'd stay late even if they're

(01:57:00):
getting hammered, because he was going to come up with
the story in the seventh inning when you were behind. Yeah,
and he was probably gonna give a little bit, a
little bit of ribbing to his team for being down
seven runs and not showing up that night. But you
don't turn it off when Vin Scully and guys like that.
Harwells those guys. But Vin Scully, I think unparalleled in
the broadcast. There was I don't think there'll ever be
anybody like him.

Speaker 9 (01:57:20):
There was a girl I dated who went to Loyola
High School there in La Yeah, and so you know,
she moved out this way and massive Dodger fan. And
this was before all the cheating scan all that stuff,
so you know, hate them so loosely rooted for the
Dodgers in my case because of Vin, because like I was, like,
you know what, like I watched these guys so much.

(01:57:40):
So I know Milton Bradley and the team now because
I watch him on a nightly basis.

Speaker 1 (01:57:44):
But he was the reason to think about when I
grew up in San Diego, real quick, here's a aside
from winning teams like in LA and just so, I'm
talking about calt Southern California, two hours from the house.
Chick Hern, Vin Scully, dick Enburg and Jerry Coleman. It's
not bad. Now find me a better four within two

(01:58:08):
hours of each other for their franchise. I don't think
you more versatile to do all that. Dick Enberg did
all the sports with Marlin Olsen in football. Vin Scully
was the eighteenth tower announcer for a while at Masters
and called that great the Joe Montana throw. I think
Hank Stram was with him Montana to Dwight Clark. That
was Vin Scully and baseball so versall. That's what I
grew up with. Chick Hern, who played more games that

(01:58:29):
the organization lived, dick Enbrook, Vin Scully, Jerry Coleman, the
play by play guy for the Potters. Dude, you could
tell me a lot you ain't fine and four better
during the same time. Bob Miller with the Kings within
two planets. I don't think you're finding no doubt so
off the charts so real quick with Scully is apparently

(01:58:51):
how he got his big break when CBS hired him.
It was years ago when he was a young cub broadcaster.
He was doing a football game at Fenway Park and
his broadcast spot. They didn't have any rooms, so he
was up on the roof. It's cold, it's that time
of the year up in Boston. And apparently CBS when
they hired him, they said, you didn't complain once. That

(01:59:11):
stood out to us that you just did the game.

Speaker 9 (01:59:13):
So that showed us you were that much of a
professional that, you know, because I mean you'll hear people,
oh you know, dealing with this, all of.

Speaker 1 (01:59:20):
That, your audience doesn't care. Just just do the show,
Just do just do the game. And you know what,
I don't think Vin Scully recognized it was cold because
he's so into the gig. Does that make sense? Oh
yeah yeah, Does it surprise you? No? Exactly, No. What
a blessing. And that was that was one of those
meeting him in person.

Speaker 9 (01:59:39):
It met every single e because I had an end
a mutual friend with Charlie Seiner and I was like,
can I say hello to Ben? And He's like absolutely
and couldn't have been more gracious what's your name?

Speaker 6 (01:59:51):
Dan?

Speaker 1 (01:59:51):
It's very nice to me, and I'm just like, I'm
floating at that point. And you know what, if you
would have saw him a week later, he'd remembered your name. Yeah,
y you know else is that way? Nance and Vin
Scully Boll I mean, uh Vern Lnquist.

Speaker 9 (02:00:04):
I hadn't seen Nanson years and last time I saw
him your parents still living in Horseshoe Bay.

Speaker 1 (02:00:08):
I was like, what what? Yeah? Now do you remember that?
That's that's there's a that's a specially eagle too special trait. Yeah,
iron eagle trade as well. That's people get out of
themselves and they the narcissism be damned. Yeah there, it's
about you when they talk to you, like if I
saw if I saw Ian and the you know food
line that nrg Oh you're not in Atlanta anymore? Yeah,
I And that was fifteen years ago. That just that's quality, brother,

(02:00:31):
because how many of us would screw it up? As right?
All if you're immersed those guys, But does it surprise
you when you look at their career and who they are? Yeah? No,
show they're special for a reason, no shot.

Speaker 9 (02:00:41):
All right, So the college football notes, it's god, I
love college football fans. I really really do, and this
is going to enforce that as we continue here on
a fight song Friday, Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven
to ninety. But speaking of college football, man, I tell
you all the time about those college football polos from
Kobe Stevens Apparel Tobe Stevens dot Com.

Speaker 1 (02:01:01):
And I'm talking to purple and gold. They're off this week.

Speaker 9 (02:01:04):
That shouldn't stop you from sporting that nice purple and
gold polo Kobe Stevens dot Com for that. How about
the maroon and white one playing some good football coach
Elcos Guys, they're looking good. You want to look good
in a maroon and white polo Kobe Stevens dot Com.
Burn orange and white right there? You want to You
want to be sporting it looking good as you head
next weekend to Dallas for the Old State Fair Well

(02:01:26):
Kobe Stevens dot Com. The Cougar red and white right
there too. You got that summer line still available and
the temps are still out there. I mean, might got
to head it out for a workout. Yesterday, I get
in the car and I see ninety five on the
temp in my car, and I'm just like man, all right,
that Kobe Stephens summer line. Still looking good, still feeling good, Polos,
T shirts, hats, shorts, ladies and youth options. You want

(02:01:48):
to be looking your best and you want to feel
your best, and Kobe Stevens Apparel can make that happen
for you. And I've also told you to one of
those T shirts. Don't mess with Mac shirt, my guy, Kobe,
he's got the picture, he's got Mattress Mac holding up
the shirt because we remember that those knucklehead Philly fans,
they tried to come after him, and that propelled that
team to a World Series win. You're never gonna change
my mind. Cobe Stephens dot com to be able to

(02:02:08):
find that shirt. It's Kobe Stephens dot com, Cobby Stephens
dot com, cob Y Stevens with a V. Kobe Stephens
dot com is the place for Kobe Stevens Apparel.

Speaker 3 (02:02:21):
The Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 13 (02:02:22):
Show continues on seven ninety and continues in your home.
Say Alexa, play Sports Talk seven ninety on iHeartRadio.

Speaker 9 (02:02:52):
Oh those goofy Pom pom shakers from Alabama, your goofy haircuts.
I mean I know that you know astro and Rockets
Network producer Josh c. He's a Bamer. Cole Thompson, he's
a Bamer roll Tide yellow Hammer, or actually it's the
other way around.

Speaker 1 (02:03:08):
Boy, Q is Kuberlick a Bama guy. Don't say that.
Oh no, he's Auburn. And that's right. He's an Auburn.
He lives he's a alab Does he live in Alabama?
Oh yeah, Okay, that's as a matter of fact, just
like me and you Morning Radio. It's him and Greg Matt.
That's exactly right.

Speaker 9 (02:03:24):
So it used to be the original incarnation of have
the Alabama and Auburn on Jock's FM there in Birmingham
was Jay Barker Al del Greco.

Speaker 1 (02:03:33):
Right, that's my former teammate of mine, love Al now
at Stanford University right there in Birmingham. And and it
was as a hell of a golf oh yeah, and
a hell of a kicker and one of the great
people of the plant. I love that. But that's right, yeah,
say that the Cole is like a cuss word at
him right right now? Or or as Bama you know,

(02:03:53):
mixed him having him and McElroy because that's a rivalry
every day when it comes to college football, or as
Bama fans will tell you, he's a barner.

Speaker 10 (02:03:59):
That's so.

Speaker 9 (02:04:00):
It's it's very much a Texas and Texas A and
M dynamic between Alabama and Auburn, where Bama is the
more you know, Oh, we're the city folk. Oh we're
the more refined ones, whereas you know, Auburn and A
and M oh we're farmers, right, you know, because it
also was Bear Bryant called he would never refer to
Auburn as Auburn that cow college.

Speaker 1 (02:04:22):
Yeah, there you go. So and then funny enough, just
a little dig yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:04:25):
And then right there on campus there's a barn there
at that Auburn So it kind of all fits in.
But anyway, got a lot of good college football that program.
We're just talking about them. And Vanderbilt. That's gonna be fun.
That'll be a good mid afternoon.

Speaker 1 (02:04:37):
Be a blast. It really is. Wait to see yeah,
wait to see it.

Speaker 9 (02:04:41):
Bobby is like kind of like the new Age Johnny Manziel,
and Manziel is going to be on the sidelines for Vanderbilt.

Speaker 1 (02:04:47):
Any well, I don't know if mentoring is the right word.
Teaching or talking or consulting with him is any John
Johnny's still finding a way to keep himself relevant.

Speaker 9 (02:04:56):
You got the bar right there in North Gates, doing
podcasts everything.

Speaker 1 (02:05:00):
So it's working out well to make a difference. He's
living his best life. BOBBYA can play man, Yes he can.
He's fine. I just don't need it, and he lets
you know that, Yeah, play too. I don't need seven
or eight years of him in college. Okay, trying to
move forward.

Speaker 9 (02:05:11):
Like somebody pointed it out me and you during the break,
we're talking about fran Brown at Syracuse.

Speaker 1 (02:05:15):
They have an eighth year tight end on that roster. Enough,
like it does kind of get to a point where
it's like, what are we doing? I understand you love
college football, but it's time to move on, buddy, and
you've been a really good player, and he's doing great
things at Vanderbilt, no question about it, but it's time
to move on. Speaking of moving on, there's a bigger
job for fran Brown. No disrespect to Syracuse, but somewhere
along the line that job's coming.

Speaker 9 (02:05:33):
Could Florida possibly be one of those places, because where
I'm going with this, this will be a big step
in whether Billy's going one way or the other.

Speaker 1 (02:05:41):
Napier this week.

Speaker 9 (02:05:43):
I'm glad you let in that way because the Gators
get Texas there, and you're gonna hear that tomorrow here
on Sports Talk seven ninety at one point thirty is
when coverage gets underway on your home of Texas Longhorn
football and men's basketball. So message boards Geniuses is a
great follow if you're a college football fan or even
just if you love, you know, goofy sports contents on

(02:06:03):
your Twitter feed. And it's at bor Geniuses on Twitter
and they posted this This Florida fan is terrified they
might actually beat Texas. Alligator influence Alligator enthusiast on one
of the message boards on one of the Florida sites
with the subject line that reads, this Texas game absolutely

(02:06:24):
terrifies me, and the subject itself reads because I think
they're overrated and we have a chance to play well
and possibly beat them, which means that Starkfield strict.

Speaker 1 (02:06:34):
That's Scott Strickland the ad there. We'll have all the
incentive he needs to keep sling Blade around for yet
another undeserved week, which is all he really wants to do.
Called a napier sling blade, called sling Blade.

Speaker 9 (02:06:51):
Brian on Twitter responds valid concerns most Rational Gator responds,
this is absolutely a very real fear in our fan base.
Atl Gator, two thousand and nine. A legit concern. Actually
yet another good take tbh.

Speaker 1 (02:07:08):
To be honest, can can you imagine rooting against your
team because you're afraid you're gonna keep the coach to
just be on a team that's gonna be I mean, no,
he don't.

Speaker 3 (02:07:16):
Play well, don't win.

Speaker 1 (02:07:18):
I don't want it to happen, and just show up tomorrow.
We'aring burn orange and white. That's fine, but I mean
I love fan bases, but what the world are we
doing here? Come on, get this guy out of here.
I don't want to be here.

Speaker 9 (02:07:31):
And the other one too, is my good buddy Andrew
Spivey covers Florida. And it's kind of to the point
like where once you start getting headlines like this and
bylines like this, then you know that you've lost the
benefit of the doubt with the media. And he's with
Gators Season or Gator Country is who he's with. Billy
Napier says that he's quote looking forward to the crowd

(02:07:53):
on Saturday. Oh man, he doesn't have a clue. So
it's to the point with the fan base where you
get the anger, you get to you know, just everything,
all of the emotions. But then it gets to where
once you start seeing empty seats in the stadium, that's
when it's a queue to the athletic department, to the
university president. Hey, we need to move on like UCLA.

(02:08:16):
But well, last week, what happened to Sam Pittman. Did
you see the crowd there at Arkansas for Arkansas Notre Dame.
That should be a full building, empty seats all over the.

Speaker 1 (02:08:26):
Place, just for the simplest the Notre Dame. They don't
go there. That's the apathy. Brother.

Speaker 9 (02:08:31):
It's to the point where it's like, you know what,
I've already sunk my money into this. You've got my
money for season tickets. But I'm going to show you.
I'm not even gonna put the the the grocery bag
you know, written on on my head. That's not going
to happen. I'm just I'm just not going to show you.
And then soon enough you get all those people up
in their suites looking down and saying, man, look at

(02:08:51):
this crowd. As a buddy of mine once told me,
nobody wants to watch crappy football.

Speaker 1 (02:08:55):
That's the first sign that an athletic director that gets
hit in the gut. The gut punch is on a
big opponent that the student body in the rest and
fans big aren't there.

Speaker 16 (02:09:07):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:09:07):
You see signs of it in play at times at
different universities, but that's the biggest one. You walk in there,
it's like, oh, I don't playing Notre Dame in Arkansas
and Sam Pittman great guy, and we're an SEC program
in Notre Dame. So and it's like, what what U
c l a thirty thousand people at one hundred thousand
seat Rose, What's like embarrassing?

Speaker 10 (02:09:24):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:09:25):
But help me with this my fandom? And you say
you understand, And I know more people are like that
than I am. I At times you get twenty say
got to replace him. But I'm never that angry that
I'd root against my team. Am I wrong? Probably because

(02:09:46):
I know a lot of people. For instance, if I
was a Florida fan, I'd want Billing Apier to kick Tech.
What if he kicks the Longhorns ass and goes and
wins three or four five in a row, I'm fine.
You want it back? Yeah, I'm fine with him turning
it around. I'm with you.

Speaker 9 (02:09:59):
I'm not going to against my my program because there's
zero guarantee that the next guy is going to be
an it's.

Speaker 1 (02:10:04):
Gonna say you root for it, then the next guy,
then the next guy. Then listen. If Lagway goes in
those three picks this week and and struggles in a
couple more weeks. As good as he is, there will
be people that don't want to be the quarterback. There's
are people who want such a fragile There's are people
who don't want quack. It's a fact. So it's just

(02:10:26):
it's just it's it's so strange to me. And and
maybe I'm I don't know, maybe haven't seen the other
side where they're on, you know, jaded. Yeah, I am
big time. I love sports and I love watching my team,
but I no longer When the Astros lost, no, no
no problem, meaning say it was actually relaxing, Say I

(02:10:51):
say no problem that they lost. It was probably it's
a bummer, But I didn't wake up Monday morning miserable,
he even though we'd found out the day before. I
don't the Raiders lose. I don't, honestly, it doesn't ruin
my week anymore. There's times growing up it did, like
when the Raiders lost it. Yeah, but I got to
the point I don't jaded. Might be a good point

(02:11:12):
where I root, But once the game's over and they lose,
I'm looking forward to the off season or another next
sport that's coming around. I don't take it home with
me anymore. Even my US beloved USC Trojans, Well, it's
frustrats me. What's going on in you're pacing when it's over?

Speaker 10 (02:11:27):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:11:29):
I hate the pro What do they do five?

Speaker 17 (02:11:31):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:11:31):
Eventually, if you're not good, they're going to replace you anyway,
I don't. I no longer allow sports to on a
Sunday or Saturday ruin my day or my week. Country
music sign song says it best time March is on. Brother,
I don't know what, and I don't know. As you
get older, you just like there's other things to do.
But I don't. I don't. I care a lot, but

(02:11:56):
the second the game's over, for the free if you're
somebody's big game, know, oh man a field goal? We
also by half a point. But I don't If the
Texans lose Sunday it's not ruining my monday. I won't
let it. If the Raiders lose, which I've been through playing,
I don't. The Red Sox lost yesterday and I'm I

(02:12:17):
tipped my cap to Schlittler who was off the charts
as opposed to it's a bummer. Yeah, that's why it says.
That's why I said it slowly in many ways, no
doubt so. I just and I know fans who did.
But the fandom part of it, and I get why
other people are. But even if I sponsored, you know,
bought a sweet for one hundred and fifty grand, I'm not.

(02:12:40):
I'm not the fan. I know what I'm getting into
with sports, and I understand why they do. It just
doesn't bother me. Oh we're already past time, dude. I
thought you're good. I wasn't even paying attention to the
cloud because now I got immersed into this. Fans.

Speaker 9 (02:12:52):
Hey, Tom Flies, when you're having fun, you know what,
if you feel that way, God bless you all. Right
nine o clock Cower Here, Sean Salisbury's showed that the
road just get even harder for one of the local teams.

Speaker 1 (02:13:02):
Here we'll discuss ab.

Speaker 2 (02:13:04):
E Houston, a TV e HD two Houston.

Speaker 3 (02:13:09):
And the Rocket Throat.

Speaker 13 (02:13:11):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety your home for your
home teams. Make Houston sports the number one precinct on
your car radio, and then you would improved iHeartRadio app
free never sounded so good.

Speaker 5 (02:13:25):
Hey is coaching Doka and right now you're shot at
one thousand dollars on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 13 (02:13:31):
Just entered this nationwide keyword at Sports seven ninety dot com.

Speaker 3 (02:13:35):
Bank b A n K Bank enter it now at
Sports seven ninety dot com.

Speaker 4 (02:13:45):
Saulisburysbury, Houston.

Speaker 2 (02:13:50):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 4 (02:13:51):
Sean Salisbury, Salisbury to USC Trupe, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (02:13:57):
Dan Matthew excus. This is the Sean sells Very Show.

Speaker 9 (02:14:06):
As I mentioned, we're talking Texans right now. That means
we go to our good buddy, Aaron Wilson, Texans insider
for us here at Sports Talk seven to ninety KPRC two.
Doing great work there, Aaron. We saw Derek Stingley on
the field yesterday's some limited work. Is there a chance
that we see him back in the starting lineup on Sunday?

Speaker 10 (02:14:27):
Yes? I expect him the starting lineup on Sunday. I
think that he looked like he normally does at practice
and they're just managing the injury. If you look at
some of the language. I'm a big studier of Damico
Ryans verbiage exceecter to all his press conferences. You just

(02:14:47):
read between the lines and then you fill it in
with the blanks and look at the information. It's the
same thing they did last week, with the exception of
it's better where there was some doubt whether he'll play
at least because he did practice for two days, but
this time practicing on a Thursday and then at about
an hour and a half inside the Texans practice facility.

(02:15:10):
We're expecting him to practice again and I don't know
if they'll list him as questionable, if they'll do anything
like that like they did last week. But I don't
think he was really a true questionable. He felt pretty
good once he tested it out last Friday, and he
didn't have any setbacks, I'm told, in the game. So
he had an interception. It looks good for him to

(02:15:31):
be active and start and line up against date Flowers.

Speaker 1 (02:15:36):
They prepare, they said they preparing for Lamar Jackson. Are
they and should they?

Speaker 10 (02:15:45):
Well, yes and no, he's not playing. I've heard that
is one hundred one thousand percent. He cannot play this week,
so it's going to be Cooper Rush. I think that
they prepared for some possibility. I think that they've also
spent a ton of time on Cooper Rush. I don't
think a d anything to detract from their overall preparation.

(02:16:08):
Jackson is just a unique player that requires a lot of.

Speaker 18 (02:16:12):
Different rush lanes, controlled rush, disciplined rush.

Speaker 10 (02:16:18):
Whereas with rush it's actually simpler. You just tee off
and try to attack the pocket. He's not going anywhere.
He's just gonna have to stand in there and take
the hits, kind of like you know, you saw Mac
Jones last night and real gritty, tough performance by Mac,
but there was nowhere he could go. Cooper is maybe
a little bit more nimble than that. It's not banged up,
but it is a pocket pass that they'll prepare for,

(02:16:41):
and they know what's going on. I mean, players know,
people in the building know.

Speaker 16 (02:16:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:16:48):
I mean, word doesn't stay in Baltimore, it moves around.

Speaker 2 (02:16:53):
Eric.

Speaker 10 (02:16:54):
No, he can't play this week.

Speaker 1 (02:16:55):
Yeah, with that is the human nature. I know it
sets in for all of us, But is it setting
in with them. Just do you get this feel yes
or no about headed to Baltimore that they're banged up
on defense, people are questioning their physicality, they're not very good.
You're getting a backup quarterback even though you're one to three.
Is there any is there any part of all we're

(02:17:18):
getting getting Baltimore at the right time. Yes, but we're
getting them and we were going to win this game
or taking them for granted because of no Lamar and
the injuries on defense.

Speaker 10 (02:17:26):
I think it's a little bit different.

Speaker 18 (02:17:29):
It's a lack of cockiness because they have already lost
three games first three, just coming off of one win
over a team that's own four.

Speaker 1 (02:17:39):
Yep.

Speaker 10 (02:17:40):
No, I'm not sensing a lot of strutting around like,
oh we got this one. I think that they still
have a lot of respect for the Ravens and they
feel like they owe the Ravens one. Oh la bunch. Actually,
you know it's thirteen and two is the all time
record against Baltimore. They've never won a game in Baltimore.
I think they're just fired up to play and try
to get a win. I don't think it's a lot

(02:18:00):
of extras like they embarrassed no one really has when
I've asked that question. Really, Pillay jumps on that and
run with it. To me, Nico Collins was the closest
to it, saying, you know, they embarrassed us. We got killed.
It was on Netflix. I think it's a normal approach
to it in terms of they don't have a lot

(02:18:22):
to be cocky about, and Baltimore's beating you a bunch
of times, and you still can't just be like, oh, well,
the Ravens are depleted, We're going to start counting who's
not playing. It's still the Ravens. It's still a team
that's in the playoffs, that beat in the playoffs just
a couple of years ago. I mean, this is a
very one sided operation. Also, it's Derrick Henry and just

(02:18:44):
run for more yards against the Texans and more second
most touchdowns other than the Jaguars. But he's averaged like
almost six yards per carrying for his career against the
Texans traditionally, So I don't think you can take them.
He'll be out there, Dave Flowers will be out there,
Mark Andrews will be out there. So I just don't

(02:19:05):
think you can take them lightly.

Speaker 1 (02:19:06):
And I don't think they are again.

Speaker 9 (02:19:07):
Aaron Wilson, our Sports Talk seven to ninety Texans insider,
also with KPRC two. Find him on Twitter at Aaron
Wilson Underscore NFL. And let's continue that thought because, I mean,
we played the audio from dan Orlowski earlier talking about
how they don't really use a ton of Henry and
running the football on first and second down, but when
they do, they're incredibly successful. I mean, is that the

(02:19:29):
Texans defensive game plan tomorrow is you can be fine
being pleasantly surprised by Cooper Rush, but not by Derrick Henry.

Speaker 17 (02:19:37):
Right.

Speaker 10 (02:19:38):
The idea is that this is in their filosopy. There
was a game where they did defend him very well.
It was a really cold game when he was playing
for the Titans a couple of years back. It was
Damika Ryant's first year and what they did was they
run blitzed against him. And Christian Harris in particular had
a great game that day and he tackled him before
he could get his feet moving. The guy's about six

(02:20:01):
three two pounds of bad news and you don't let
them get started. To mean, he's like a runaway truck.
But you just like most backs. If you're you know,
hitting him in the backfield as he just got the ball,
then you have a you know, chance to tackle him.
He's not like he's you know, he's just he's a
human beings. He's King Henry. He's a great running back.

(02:20:22):
But every running back can be tackled. Jamal Lewis got tackled,
Jim Brown got tackled. I mean, all these guys get tackled.
Barry Sanders got tackled. I think that, you know, they
don't build him up to be more than he is,
but they respect him a bunch and a lot of
guys have been you know, stiff armed by Derek. He's
just he's a good running back. I know this. John

(02:20:43):
Harrball was upset that they didn't run the ball more
last week, so I expect him to get the ball.
I think they're going to try to run the ball
against the Texans, and you know, Bucky Irving ran the
ball very well against this defense, another the top ranked
scoring defense with there twelve against a run.

Speaker 16 (02:21:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:21:03):
I mean, if i'm I'm not a play caller, but
if I was the Ravens, certainly I would try.

Speaker 1 (02:21:07):
Oh football, I'm not gonna try him leaning on him,
and I'm the ball ain't heavy. You may have to
get thirty five or forty of them to give us
a chance this week.

Speaker 10 (02:21:14):
With that, he can do it.

Speaker 1 (02:21:15):
Yeah, you damn righty can Aaron? I? I trust the
defense here. They're they're really, really good, and I think
that's pretty captain obvious. But even after the fourth quarter
last week, well, improvements were made against Tennessee. I don't
think this offense is close yet. I don't what say you.

Speaker 10 (02:21:36):
I think they took a step in the right direction,
but they're far from a finished product. What I did
see was, Okay, they still have communication issues within the
offensive line on the alert, the prime example being TG's
driver is an alert and the center doesn't communicate the
alert and a couple of linemen Tita Twern Edtingram, they
run into each other and you have the fastest sack

(02:21:56):
in the NFL by a great player, Jeffrey Simmons. But
it was mostly because just no one blocked him. Okay,
that's some of the fixs the fourth quarter that looked good,
including C. J. Stroud wheeling and dealing and doing a
check and going to Jayden and Higgins seeing a matchup
he liked, and that looked like good football to me.

(02:22:16):
But they're still I mean, they were stagnant for so
many quarters. They weren't finishing, they were settling for field goals.
They've got to play like they did in the fourth quarter.
They do that all the time, and they're going to be,
you know, a team that people.

Speaker 3 (02:22:30):
Are worried about again.

Speaker 10 (02:22:31):
But if they can't play it, if they can't bottle
that up. But you know, I would say this just
talking to Kaye yesterday. I don't know if he saw
the interviews. Different energy around. Kaylee is very very stressed
earlier after some of these losses, but this time, you know,
feeling good about himself, but feeling good about the offense.

(02:22:52):
I saw a lot of positivity. I was just kind
of like reading, you know, Tea leaves here and I'm like, Okay,
he's steeling good. That the guys are lists and they
can buying into his system. And I think we all me.
I think most folks underestimated how much time it would
take for these guys to get comfortable in his system,
which is completely different from the slower system, so that

(02:23:16):
there's just not a lot of overlap. And I think
that's casted some of the problems they've had in addition
to personnel issues they still have on offense. But I
think that's been a factor in this bad start is
the how close figure it out?

Speaker 1 (02:23:29):
How close is the verbage? I know different schemes, but
how close is the verbage? I would think that off
season part of it that you'd try to keep it
as close as you had, being that come from a
similar system with the Shanahan and McVeigh. So how close
is the verbage from what they were learned?

Speaker 10 (02:23:44):
A great question. I have not asked that question. I
think that's a good question for me to find out
the answer to Seana. I want to find out that
information for you. I don't know if it's I think
there's some things that are commonality for all play calls,
but I think there was something that they had to
pick up too. It's just different, and it's less McVeigh

(02:24:04):
and more New England. And I mean Todd Bowles. I
guess what Todd saw. And a lot of you guys
have said this is New England. Players are telling me
we're watching old New England. Save of Tom Brady and
Julian Edelman, Randy Moss and Wes Welker. So this is
what he has his background in. That's his training more
so than his McVeigh time again.

Speaker 9 (02:24:26):
He's Aaron Wilson, our sports SOX seven to ninety Texans insider,
as well as work he does with kPr C two.
Find him on Twitter at Aaron Wilson Underscore NFL. Hey
appreciate it. So we'll catch up with you next week
and hopefully we're talking about a two win Texans team
next week.

Speaker 3 (02:24:45):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 1 (02:24:58):
Some college football Fridays. We call fights on Fridays. I'm
sure it's pretty evident.

Speaker 9 (02:25:03):
Why here on the Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talks seventy
ninety you got Sean Triple Ee, Manuel Elmore, Dan Matthews
hanging out with you. Special thanks to Aaron Wilson for
joining us every single week here on the shows. The
Texans Huge one on Sunday. I know that the Matt
Thomas Show with Ross likes to joke all the time
it's a must win. Well in this case it is,

(02:25:24):
and we'll get to that here in just a second.
The forty nine ers walk off the Rams with the
field goal and ot they win that one. Twenty six
to twenty three, and you've hed Texas Tech. Tomorrow night,
TDCU stadium coverage get started at five over on KPRC
nine fifty and one of those teams that I mentioned,
which I mean Process of elimination San Francisco, they're still
on your schedule. And I said it last night. I mean,

(02:25:47):
I for the most part was watching baseball and I
caught probably the best part of the forty nine er
Ram game. You know, tune it on in time. Pinero
makes a fifty nine yarder to put them in front
lot of forty nine er fans. In that bill he
made that kick, I was like, you could have told
me you were playing this game at Shocking and all
all the red they travel, Well, I get that at

(02:26:08):
Niner Gang. Niner Gang does travel for sure, but it's
also too you know, as a buddy of mine that's
from southern California and he's a big forty nine Er fan,
and then of course you know it's the well, well
are you a forty nine er fan? His point was valid,
he goes, I grew up when both the Raiders and
Rams were gone. I didn't have a team and didn't
like the Chargers. So yeah, I grew I grew up.

(02:26:29):
Rooting for the forty nine ers makes perfect sense. Well
it's also too, I mean we run into that here
in Houston with cowboy fans where people some of them
are from DFW and then some of them maybe military
whatever it is because Armed Forces network. But another one
too is oh we got cowboy fans here. Well, did
you have a football team for what was it, ninety
seven to two? So you didn't have a football team

(02:26:50):
for about six years?

Speaker 1 (02:26:52):
So who are you going to root for?

Speaker 10 (02:26:54):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:26:54):
Well, there's a team in Texas, so I'll root for them.
That makes sense. So they're they're they're for a team
that's been beaten and battered. They're pretty good talking about
San Francisco Niners. Pretty good, brother, I mean like no Kittle,
no party. Although Purdy might be looking over his shoulder now,
I'm just telling you, man, you leave that glove out
on the mound, you become the mostly And I like

(02:27:16):
party a lot. But Max Jones is doing the same
things Perty did when Perty got the opportunity to place.
Got that Alabama swag, Yeah he does, and he's trying
to prove to the world that he is a starter.
Because he thinks he is, and he's playing like it,
and you're going to get to a poin where you
can't take him out of lineup because they're productive, they win.
He's tough, he's proven it, and this is going to

(02:27:39):
be the most expensive backup on the planet. If this
happens in Rocks, not on the field, you're you're leaving
an opportunity. And Max Jones is doing what a backup
is supposed to do. You think there's makes some plays
and then more than that, he's acting. He's playing like
a starter.

Speaker 9 (02:27:50):
I think there's part of say, like a guy like
Kellen Moore watching that game last night saying.

Speaker 1 (02:27:54):
I'll trade for one. Yeah, yeah, no, that's a fact
because his team hasn't drafted a quarterback in four hundred years,
meaning that the the you know, the guy that wore
the earp Archie that's now got a grandson playing, they
haven't drafted one. They're going to be in position to pick.
And I'm not sure right now, other than maybe Dante
Moore at Oregon, I haven't seen a top five quarterback

(02:28:15):
in the league right now. Wow, in college football now,
Smyer looks like he's hurt. Arch Manning has not played well.
Lenoris Sellers is not the number one pick in this draft.
I mean, uh, you're you're missing some Now they could
turn into it, but I'm talking as we sit today.
So with that, you're like, well, do we want to
do we want to do that or do you go
get now? The truth is, if you're if you're Kellen Moore,

(02:28:39):
you'd say, well, let me go get the guy who's
making less money. If he does the same thing and
I like the way he plays and is accurate with
the football, and do that. So it's something to consider
because at some point if this continues, and if it
does and we're premature possibly because it's early, but if
mac Jones continues to do this and is the starter,
now you're gonna have to make decisions in the forty

(02:28:59):
nine say well, somebody want fifty three million bucks, and
somebody does want because pretty can play, right, it's a
quarterback anyway, Well go ahead, right, that's exactly right, And
then he'd leaves that first round pick or two if
you're the Saints, to go get somebody, because there's still
five players away from being five players away. As I've
said before, they it's not just a quarterback, So I'm
anxious to see how that turns out. But I can

(02:29:20):
tell you this, that team is still Fred Warner is
as good as thereas best linebacker in the league. I mean,
you can go through they and they haven't got some
pride and they're pretty damn good. So and by the
time you get them, you may get some more health
out of the forty nine ers. So this ain't anybody's
bye week. Asked the Rams about that one.

Speaker 9 (02:29:37):
And that was the thing that surprised me last night
was tuning that on and seeing San Francisco's three and
one because they lost last week to Jacksonville, and I
thought that they had lost a game or two before.

Speaker 1 (02:29:47):
Eight and a half point dogs going to the game last.

Speaker 9 (02:29:50):
Night and now for Collins said, oh, you think you're
gonna win this game? Huh yeah yeah, And I got
something for you, Kirroen.

Speaker 1 (02:29:55):
I didn't bet it, but I would have bet it
because just with all the stuff going on, and the
Rams are really Rams are super Bowl caliber team, and
at quarterback and how you're gonna stop Nikola. But when
you turn it over and you spot them fourteen points
to start the game, it's it's it's tough to overcome.
And that's a good rivalry, and you know the familiarity
with both coaches. You had a pretty good idea and

(02:30:18):
you open the door at the end. Hell of a
comeback as the Rams are, we know they can throw
themselves into it, but the forty nine ers are not
going away.

Speaker 9 (02:30:25):
You don't win this game this week, there is a
real distinct possibility you lose the next five. The Texans
that is, you get you get Seattle out of the
bye week, then you get San Francisco because like I said,
it just got harder. Then you get the Broncos. They're
no easy feat. And then you get the Jags, who
don't forget they played incredibly poorly too, and they still

(02:30:46):
beat you.

Speaker 1 (02:30:48):
I'm gonna tell you, if they don't win this week,
by Halloween, you'll be looking for spring training. Hey, who's
in college football? Who can we possibly?

Speaker 10 (02:30:57):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:30:58):
Huh? You get you know, hot stove going with that?
See what the Astros do there? Just telling you, all right, dude,
you're preaching to the choir in the same church pew.

Speaker 9 (02:31:09):
But then, Dimiko, it wouldn't happen this year, and I
think it would take a lot of sure, he'll be
somebody who starts the chatter. It always is, whether it's
whether it's fair or not, there'll be somebody who starts
the chatter.

Speaker 1 (02:31:21):
And then I both know that.

Speaker 9 (02:31:23):
Well, especially too when it looked like you hoped for
improvements this year and didn't necessarily get them. But like
I said, two and three tells a different story than
one in four, the textans trying to avoid that. Larry,
we see you there, We'll get you involved. Also to
here before we hand it off to Matt and Ross
this morning. Does this guy does not have any friends?
I mean, seriously, does this guy does not have anybody

(02:31:45):
to tell him, dude, don't do this.

Speaker 1 (02:31:48):
We'll discuss that here.

Speaker 9 (02:31:49):
It is a Sean Salisbury show on a fight Song Friday,
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:31:53):
Hey, DNM Leasing just delivered a truck to a customer
who had listened to dn M for more than twenty
five years. Think about that, and he'd been hearing these
commercials forever, right, for decades, he believed leasing was just
renting a car. I put in air quotes, something you
only did if you couldn't afford to buy. And who
hasn't been there, right, guys, But DNM Leasing's here to
change that. That changed when the dealership offered him an

(02:32:14):
eighty four month loan. He knew he'd trade the truck
in in a few years, and he knew he'd end
up well upside down again owing more than it was worth.

Speaker 11 (02:32:23):
Well.

Speaker 1 (02:32:23):
That's when he remembered the DNM commercials ever seen a
Texas title and when you trade in a long finance contract,
the only thing you own is negative equity. Those quotes,
so he called DNM leasing, showed him is that leasing
isn't about what you can afford. It's simply the smarter
way most people pay for their vehicles. Smarter. See what
smarter does for you, And DNM leasing is smart. Leasing

(02:32:47):
isn't renting. Let me say it again. Leasing isn't renting.
It's smarter. Who doesn't want smarter? Harder doesn't always work.
Smarter does, and especially when it puts money in your
pocket and makes it easier for you at the beginning,
the middle, and the end. Dial seven one three two
nine zero one thousand, seven one three two nine zero
one thousand, or visit us at dn M. It's DNM leasing,

(02:33:11):
dmauto leasing dot com, dmauto leasing dot com. They continue
to win awards, and there's a reason why dn M.
It's Dmauto Leasing dot Com and we're the Shawn Salisbury Show.
Continues that have.

Speaker 9 (02:33:36):
A big one this weekend. Canes and FSU both ranked teams.
That'll be a fun one tomorrow night, including you of
h Texas Tech Tomorrow night TDCU Stadium, and it's gonna
be over on KPRC nine fifties starting at five Horns
and Florida Gators from the Swamp one thirty right here
tomorrow on Sports Talk seven ninety Texans in Baltimore at

(02:33:58):
take on the Ravens and the Tigers, Cubs and Yankees
all moving on to the next round of the MLB postseason.
Someone three two, one, two five, seven ninety the Man
with No Friends. We'll talk about them before we get
out of here today, but we always know we want
to make time for our guy in Stafford.

Speaker 1 (02:34:15):
Larry and Stafford, Good morning.

Speaker 10 (02:34:18):
What's going on?

Speaker 11 (02:34:18):
Bulldogs?

Speaker 6 (02:34:19):
Son? I know it's two days in a row, man,
but i'd just be having things on my mind, and
since it's Friday, I figured I fired them off before
the weekend hits here. Man, let's go look here, y'all
were talking earlier about you know, teams and the forty
Niner fans, and you know when the forty Niners left
Oakland or whatever, and then you know they became Rams

(02:34:40):
fans and all that other stuff. And how you know
we got Titans fans and Cowboy fans here, And you said,
you know, because we went without that that having a
football team from ninety seven to two thousand and two.
I wouldn't give a damn if we didn't have a
football team to the end of time. I would never
become a Cowboy fan. I wouldn't give a damn if
the Cowboys fell off the face of the earth and

(02:35:02):
went up to Oklahoma and became a part of the
Oklahoma Red River Classic or something. There's nothing anybody can
convince me of to ever allow myself to even think
about being a Cowboy fan, because we know that all
them Cowboys fans do is jock ride for the last
thirty years that they ass won a Super Bowl thirty
years ago and keep trying to throw it in our face.

(02:35:24):
So I keep reminding everybody over there on Kirby, we
need to win a Super Bowl before them silly ass
Cowboys do, because once we do that, over there on, Kirby,
we gonna take over this whole state. And I'm a
firm believer, son, and this is how I feel about
this weekend. They have no choice but to go into
Baltimore and in that whole streak that we haven't won

(02:35:45):
up there in Baltimore yet. And here's the reason why.
Because you sometimes you have to slay the dragon to
be able to get to the top of the mountain top,
and Baltimore is in the way of us trying to
get to the super Bowl. And I don't give a
day if they don't have Lamar or Kyle Hamilton or
whoever else the hell. You take your ass up to

(02:36:06):
Baltimore and you give my defense twenty four points and
we gonna come out of Baltimore with a win because
the Miko Rice has that defense playing football like you're
supposed to play if you're serious about going to a
super Bowl. And I honestly believe that this offense can
just give us twenty four points. Man, there's no.

Speaker 11 (02:36:25):
Way we're gonna losing somebody whose name is Cooper Rush
or Copper Rush or whatever Rush's ass is, because the
last time we played old Cooper, I'm pretty sure we
put a whipping on them cowboy ass when he was
the quarterback down there. Fellas, Look, it's not that hard.
And I know y'all gonna talk about people that don't
have a lot of friends. I want everybody in they

(02:36:45):
sound to make sure they understand me. Your boy and
Stafford got a whole lot of friends. And some of
y'all that be out here hating on the fact that
I get on the radio and I talk to Son
and Bulldog and the other folks down the aisle, I
don't give a damn with y'all think, But because all
I'm doing is offering up with your boy and Stafford
is feeling, so y'all might want to get on that.
Most city done a day like your boy in.

Speaker 1 (02:37:07):
Ahall, they you always know you can count, and he's
you know, he's got it a lot of it always.
It never fails either when it comes to that. E Oh,
they scored twenty four points in Baltimore. They are winning.
I'm not so sure if Lamar was there healthy that

(02:37:28):
if you score twenty four points this week, the way
they're reeling a little bit Baltimore, I'm not sure twenty
four points wouldn't When I say, Decimate wouldn't beat down
the Baltimore Ravens this week.

Speaker 9 (02:37:38):
Provided you limit Henry right right, and having Steing Lee
back when your secondary looks like it was supposed to.

Speaker 1 (02:37:44):
My point is, if you get twenty four points here
with that defense, especially with Cooper issh it's good rush,
it's gonna take you. It's gonna be hard for Derek
Henry to do enough to muster up twenty seven points
to beat That's exactly right. So and like I said,
you come out of this game, it better be Cooper
Rush to beat me, not Derrick Henry. That's number one defensively.

(02:38:05):
But you throw twenty four points up this week, Derek
Henry better rush for three twenty and I don't see
the defense doing that giving up twenty seven, meaning the text.
And so yeah, you get three touchdowns on a field
goal this week, you'll get your first win in Baltimore
in my opinion. Now that that's obviously if you you
don't give up a cheap touchdown and your fit to

(02:38:27):
your offense doesn't fumble in the sugar and give them
the short field one. Right, You're not down thirteen to
three at the beginning of the game, where they can
shorten the game and continue to give it to Derrick
Henry down after down, even when they know they're gonna
punt or that. Yeah, twenty four points. Matter of fact,
twenty four points would be a Christmas present. The way
the offense has played this year, sands last week's for

(02:38:47):
fourth quarter sustained drives, long drives, keep that defense off.
We went long drives. We want to big, beautiful drives,
great ones. That's what we want. The best I have
ever seen. No penalty, you know, the pre snap stuff.
You get to have it. You know I'd want it,
And yeah, Texans can do that, and you know it's
Larry and you said twenty four points. Then on Monday,

(02:39:11):
we're playing good highlights here and we're talking to Texans
wins so and it sure sounds good going into a
bye week with a two and three record. Now you
blink and somebody else helps you out your four and
three in two weeks. If you play well, somebody else loses,
and now you're within a game or so, and that's that's.

Speaker 9 (02:39:27):
A good feeling. It changes your mind pretty quickly. And
Texan's definitely in favor of that. As Larry had mentioned,
and I mean, I think once I lay it out,
it's going to make sense. This guy seriously has no friends.
I'm convinced we'll discuss here before we hand it off
this morning to the Matt Thomas Show with Ross as
it is the Shawn Salisbury Show. Here on a Fight
Song Friday, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:39:48):
Country Boys Roofing. You need help with those navigation of
those insurance claims. They'll do it. No job too big
or too small anywhere in Houston. All those things, Country
Boys will be there for you. Also be aware scams
right now storm season, not only the scam of gouging
you and charging you more than they should, but of

(02:40:08):
being false and taking your money asking for it and
upfront and then boom disappearing. And Country Boys Roofing wants
you to just be aware, regardless of who you decide,
to make sure you're doing your due diligence. You don't
need to get ripped off, especially at a time when
storms are gonna hit. You're gonna need your roof fixed,
or your roof needs fixed now, and somebody's gonna try
to Oki Dookia, not Country Boy's roofing. It's a country
with the cave boys. With a Z one five hundred

(02:40:29):
dollars discount on the full roof if you're a military
first responder or educator, and if you're not a thousand
dollars discount on the full roof. When you mentioned my name,
all that is because well, Country Boy's Roofing cares. They're transparent,
they are family owned, they are locally owned and operated,
and people that have used them have sent me pictures
and said, you know what, this is the quality work

(02:40:49):
they do, cleaned up after perfect job. That's who John
is loyal, trusted and also warning you about scams that
may go on and if you want it done right
for the right price and the right discount, not goug
It's Country Boys Roofing, Country with the K Boys with
the Z proud member of the Better Business Bureau, Proud
new member of the Better Business Bureau, and you know
Atlas and certainty certified, and they will take care of

(02:41:13):
you the way that you need to take care of
at the right price, with the right discount, without Gougia
Country with the K Boys with the Ze Countryboysroofing dot Com.

Speaker 4 (02:41:22):
We want to wait.

Speaker 3 (02:41:24):
Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety.

Speaker 9 (02:41:46):
Fight Song Friday, Sean Salisbury Show Sports Song seven ninety
Texans and Baltimore taking on the Ravens on Sunday, forty
nine Ers walk off the Rams Thursday Night football overtime
field goal to get it done, and the Tigers, Cubs,
and Yankees all moving on to the next round. Get
the divisional series started in both the American and National

(02:42:06):
League tomorrow. Ryan Clark somebody we've talked about numerous times
on this show. So as I mean, there ought to
do on the talking head shows, you know, talking about
you know, something that happens, whether it Shador Sanders and
then Rex Ryan of course reacts well. Aj Brown, I
guess recently had a cryptic social media post that people

(02:42:26):
thought was directed at his lack of involvement in the
Eagles offense.

Speaker 1 (02:42:30):
And then of course you know he cleared it up.
Now that wasn't the case.

Speaker 9 (02:42:33):
All of that Well, of course it's brought up on
the show, and Ryan Clark had this to say the
press conference we saw yesterday. That was maturity, that was accountability.
That's who I believe Aj Brown to be in other
parts of his life.

Speaker 1 (02:42:47):
He's like me.

Speaker 9 (02:42:49):
He's a person with poor impulse control when I'm frustrated
and disrespected.

Speaker 1 (02:42:54):
I get it. This gets to the no friends part, like,
do you not really that like you're talking about yourself?

Speaker 9 (02:43:03):
Yes, but you also don't have enough self awareness to
realize how foolish you sound, like you don't have the
moral high ground here. It gets even better now. The
thing that I've learned to do is I'm just tired
of fighting. Maybe AJ Brown gets tired of fighting. Since
when Ryan? Seriously, since when?

Speaker 1 (02:43:20):
Listen? Dan? You know you've known me now for a
while and you've listened and over my career. And I'm
proud to say I don't talk about other broadcasters. So
I'm all all laugh and joke about my buddy. Sure,
I rarely. I know it's a tough job. I'll talk
about ones that I almost tripped, right right, Yeah, yeah,
I mean we do it in fun and I don't talk.

Speaker 13 (02:43:39):
I know.

Speaker 1 (02:43:39):
It's you know, it's you got to prepare hard work.
It's not digging ditches or putting you know, construction worker
one hundred and ten degree weather. So it's when I
say work, it's like, come on, man, we're talking sports.
But when the guy first started, I'll just say this,
he was good at his job, smart guy knows football.
I can tell you this. He's unwatchable to me now,

(02:43:59):
I when he says he's tired of fighting, he's the
one who starts to fight. When he opens his mouth,
I already know what's gonna happen. It's racist, it's race bait.
It's this guy. You can't criticize this guy. But you
can criticize this guy. He's awful, TV talented guy, award
winning on For me, you can watch him. Somebody else
can watch him. I see his clips. I just can't.

Speaker 10 (02:44:22):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (02:44:22):
I'm sure he's a nice guy and it's fine, and
he played in the league and all that. Uh, it's
not personal, but the way he approaches his career it's
unwe because I know what's coming down the pike. I automatically,
and if you his undertone, and I know exactly what
his undertone is. If you guys don't, then you're you're
part of the problem. He is, to me, is unwatchable.

(02:44:43):
I will not watch him. If you said we're gonna
interview him on this show, had him on, I wouldn't.
I would not sit in for it because I know
where it's gonna go. Respect him makes a lot of
money on the network. Save it. I was there for
twelve years already, I will I was, I invented it
before you got there, So save it. Okay, But the
narrative and the agenda he tries to create is insufferable

(02:45:06):
in my opinion. And I don't say that about much.
And I'm sure he works at his craft and like
I said, good dad all that stuff, but when it
comes to just broadcast football and talking sports, I can't
and I won't and I just won't. So when I
hear that, it's like he's eye rolling to me.

Speaker 10 (02:45:24):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:45:24):
Like I said, I'm sure it makes a lot of
money all that, and like I think he's won an
Emmy doing that. Fine, but he is a lot different
than he was when he first started. This is where
again a good friend finally stays stop talking. Yeah, it
just for me. It's just I've stopped with the social
media post, stop with it all. And when people say,
well don't, why I don't. The only way I know

(02:45:46):
is if somebody else brings it up. There's a clip
across social media. Like I said, I'll respect him and
I will never ever disrespect him. Toying, But if you
ask me, Hey, Sean, do you what do you think
about him? He's to me, in my opinion, he is unwatchable.
I don't know how anybody's sitting next to him, like
Peter Schregeringer, I don't know how anybody's sitting next to him,
the condescending and then he did. I just I can't

(02:46:11):
now if you ever wanted to have a debate on
their show and go on there set on the set,
invite me, because I will demolish that set. Okay, I
just I've had other guys that have tried that before,
and I would gladly do that. But I ain't. Like
I said, respect is what he's all about. That's his
but I have zero interest. And every time a topic's

(02:46:33):
brought up, it goes back to it's always a white
black thing with him. Always.

Speaker 9 (02:46:37):
When he first started, he was he was because I
mean it was the film study.

Speaker 10 (02:46:42):
You know.

Speaker 9 (02:46:42):
SVP would have him on Sports Center after the Monday
night game and it was it was enjoyable TV.

Speaker 1 (02:46:48):
I was like, you know what, I'm a huge Ryan
Clark fan.

Speaker 9 (02:46:50):
But the sentiments somewhere along the way, somebody got to
him and said, you've got to be more edgy, like
you've got to set yourself apart. Because Orlovsky started to
be known as the film study guy, Lewis Riddick started
to be known as the film study guys.

Speaker 1 (02:47:03):
So it's not it started. Those guys always did what
they did and stuck with it. But I mean, but
those guys they kind of cornered that market. So then
it's you got to differentiate yourself. And he leaned into that.
And it's really I don't talk about Brockett, like I said,
and if you, I'd shake his anthing. But I'm not interested.
His content does nothing, I mean zero for me because
I know the undertone. So if you're giving me that undertone,

(02:47:24):
you can't give me a fair assessment or analysis of it.
And I like people speaking their mind, sure, but I
know where he's going with his mundy all the time,
and to me, it's insufferable, and quite frankly, it's it is, uh,
it is what's the word exhausting, fatiguing, zero interest. You know,

(02:47:47):
he doesn't tell me anything that I already know he's
not going to tell me. I already know what he's
going to tell me.

Speaker 9 (02:47:51):
By the way, after he said that non football player,
you know that's the non football player and you.

Speaker 1 (02:47:55):
It's Peter Schreger. Schreger and the Game Picks crushed him
that week. Well there's no shock there, so yeah the
old Oh I played and you didn't. Yeah, save that.
I'm not interested in his content, thank you. Oh well,
all right, Uh he's Sean Salisbury. Triple Emmanuel.

Speaker 9 (02:48:10):
You do the same, buddy, Triple Emmanuel Elmore, Dan Matthews,
The Matt Thomas Show with Ross coming up next.

Speaker 1 (02:48:16):
You got Cooog's Red Raiders tomorrow night. You got Texas, Florida.

Speaker 9 (02:48:20):
What a great college football weekend, What a great football
weekend in general. We will talk to you in sixty
eight hours right here on the Sean Salisbury Show, Sports
Talk seven ninety
Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

Stuff You Should Know

Stuff You Should Know

If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.