Frambers' Outing In Missouri, Rockets Await Play-In Opponent, WNBA Draft Round 1 Recap

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury Old, Okay, let's do this Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
To usc Troup's longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dan matthewscu. This is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Val dead breaking pitch and it's walloped into the left
field corner. Hangar that time. That'll play two Jordan and
Alvarez chases it in. Bye hayes with a two run
double is three nothing, two outs, runner on second, three nothing,
Saint Louis Fromber checks the runner. Now the pitch in

(00:44):
on the hands, blooped into shallow center. That's a base
hit and that'll score another run. Four nothing. Saint Louis
newt Bar just fought it off.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
The Tres goes again. Three to two, and that's lined
in the left field down the line of base hit.
Alvarez Chason get down, Contreras getting the wave at third
from coach Pop Warner. Contreras coming home. The relay from
Pania is over the head of the catcher. The run
scores over to third, goes Arenato and the Cardinals laid
five to nothing. Penya probably would have been better off

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keeping that in his pocket and no one backing up
the play at home plate. Three to two again and
that has hit well out to right field. Cam Smith
on the run, he won't get there, and one hops
off the wall, Arenato can walk home and making the turn.

Speaker 6 (01:33):
If second on his way to third.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
Donovan he has himself a three bagger and the Cardinals have.

Speaker 6 (01:39):
A six to nothing league.

Speaker 7 (01:42):
Oh boy, that was a lot of fun last night.
Astros lose to the Cardinals eight to three. You do
get a three run homer out of Jeremy Penia, but
aside from that really not much. And with that we
say away we go here on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (01:57):
Good morning everybody. What's happening?

Speaker 8 (01:58):
Man?

Speaker 9 (01:59):
Yeah, I had to got to a point when it
got to you know, when they had got the eight
where I it was for me, it was it was
kind of shut it down.

Speaker 6 (02:11):
It was, you know.

Speaker 9 (02:12):
The thing that I think that concerns me, Dan, I
don't want to jump. We can get back into some laughs,
but just right off the back here that concerns me
is the fromber is so good one day and then
the next I'm not sure which guy's showing up that
makes sense.

Speaker 6 (02:25):
It's a little bit of a Dow joneser.

Speaker 9 (02:28):
But man, when he's good, he's awesome, but then when
it goes downhill, it's I mean, they raked him yesterday
and you know they Sunny Gray was really good. They
they had a hard time putting the bat on the
ball consistently. Obviously didn't score till what the ninth inning?
Is that what it was?

Speaker 6 (02:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (02:44):
I mean, like I said, by that time, I had
checked out around the seventh inning, and you know the
home run, which was a you know, okay, you got
You're still got five five more to get. But I just, uh,
the the concerns about fromber is. I know he'll log
innings and he's a he's a bulldog when he's going good,

(03:05):
and he will keep he will he will log him man.
But it just is weird how sometimes he did the
go to one one two two one one one where
the the inconsistencies. I guess what I'm saying is there
seems to be a gap between good and bad. Right,
There's a lot of extremes in his game.

Speaker 7 (03:23):
No, And that's the part of it I think is
the most frustrating, is because it's seemingly to us the
most innocuous things that throw him off. And then it's
I think it comes back to with me Sean, where
I'm like, why does it throw you off? Like it's
not like you just started pitching. It's not like you're
in your second year. And oh, hey he's young, he's

(03:45):
got a lot of you know, he's got a long
way to go, Sean. He's been with this organization now
for probably about six years. I think twenty nineteen was
the first time we saw him. Maybe it was twenty twenty,
but it was around that time. The point is, he's
been around the block. He knows that these things can happen,
and seemingly it does, and then it throws his game off,

(04:05):
and then afterwards it's the same explanation every single time,
Oh well this happened. Well, you know that I couldn't
get no a rhythm whatever it is, and I just
you can hear it from me. I'm kind of tired
of it, and I think most Astros fans are. It's
just like, if you're going to be that top guy,
and I'm assuming this next offseason he's gonna be asking
for top money, I wouldn't pay it.

Speaker 9 (04:26):
Yeah, And here's the problem is when you see him
or with that I'm with you, You're like, man, do
I pay him as one of the best. You know,
obviously the premium of a left hander who's good and
is an all star type pitcher, but what kind of
rarefied air salaryies are we talking about? And like he'll
go out like his last start or when he opens

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the season, you're like, damn, okay, I get it, And
then you'll see one dropped in about every second or
third start where it's like, oh, I can't pay him,
he can't be my ace. And then'll come back the
next time and give you a two hitter for seven
innings and and strike out eight and walk one and
you're like, oh, that's why he's the ace. Now I
understand it goes up and down, but I guess I

(05:09):
guess for me his performances. He's got ace potential and
he's and performance, but he also has a lot of
c in him.

Speaker 6 (05:19):
See see that.

Speaker 9 (05:20):
You know when I say see, I mean like the
third guy he also has. Okay, he's a four starter,
he's the third starter, and not well, he's my number one.
And when he has an off day, he's still pretty
damn good. And as too, when he has an off day.
He has off day, there's not a whole lot of
sitting in the middle. Now he'll grind on innings. That's
just I mean, he does. He eats him up, but
it's just the I guess the extremes and maybe the

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numbers don't bear that out. The eye test tells me
over the last three years. Then when he's good, he's outstanding.
When he's bad, he's horrendous. There's not a lot in between.
And now I know that there's gonna be games will
Shawn he got through five and two thirds here, gave
scattered seven hits, but hung in there to walk three.

Speaker 6 (05:57):
I get that.

Speaker 9 (05:58):
But the majority of the time, when you come on
and talk about from where it's not it was a
tweet er night for him. It's either dominant or good gracious,
hard time getting anybody out Now. I kept pitching and pitching,
but eventually you got to make a switch because it's
not his night. And how many not his nights is
an a supposed to have. I don't know the answer
to that, but I know this that for them to

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go considering that their hitting is also a little up
and down, good pitching as we know, does it. And
Sonny Gray started and gave them some good stuff last night.

Speaker 8 (06:32):
Is that.

Speaker 9 (06:34):
You're I don't think you want to go into it thinking,
you know, is he? I guess when you talk about
an ace when you look at the are we saying
when you know there's an ace, it's not?

Speaker 6 (06:45):
Well? Is he? It's a no brainer?

Speaker 10 (06:49):
Are you?

Speaker 9 (06:49):
Is it a no brainer that if you had to
win one game in the postseason, that that's the guy
you'd pick?

Speaker 6 (06:54):
No way, okay, no chance? All right? When when?

Speaker 9 (06:57):
But now I can go through other teams and say, okay,
you got to win one game? Are you picking Scooble?

Speaker 6 (07:03):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (07:04):
Yeah, are you picking? You know you can go through
the entire you know who the ace is? Right on
good teams, there's no brainer that guy's my starter. And
I think Fromber's got that in him. But there's there's
enough discrepancy between the good and the bad starts to

(07:25):
make you say, okay, every pitcher's well rested on your staff.
But it's a one game elimination. I know those situations
don't rear their head very often, but one game elimination,
who are you starting? And I don't know if the
majority of people would put Maybe they would, but I
think they might choose the second guy first. In Hunter Brown.

(07:45):
I think, I guess I trust Fromber, but I don't.
I wouldn't bet my mortgage on it. I'd bet I'd
bet the guest If I had a guest room in
my house, I bet that on it.

Speaker 6 (08:01):
But I'm sure I bet the whole house. That makes sense. Maybe,
I mean, is the game room pushing it too hard?

Speaker 9 (08:07):
The game room's probably ahead of the guest room because
you spend more time in that. What about the patio
with all the TV, Well, that's my favorite place in
my house.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
I don't.

Speaker 9 (08:14):
I don't want to put your personal business out there
too much. I guess I did, But you know no,
that's okay. The pat that's off limits. That would cost him. Yeah,
I know.

Speaker 6 (08:22):
I'm not betting the patio on that. There you go.

Speaker 9 (08:24):
Well, I'll tell you this. If Detroit has a one
game elimination, I know who I bet. I bet the crib,
the whole crib on We saw it last year in
full force. I like front, but it goes like the draft.
We're talking about Dan for me. Do you like him
or do you love him? Let's say this when we
took current pictures and say we put him in the pot?
Said okay, start drafting here and like, like you in

(08:47):
your fantasy draft, but I'm just talking about real baseball,
not the fantasy numbers. Real baseball go out win games.
And he said, Sean, you had first pick, and I
go through, and you say you like him or love him? Well,
I love that guy. When you ask when I get
to from Er, it's do you like him or love
might say I really like him, but I don't love
him when it comes to that. If this was an NFL,
If this was an NFL draft the way they did it,

(09:08):
Fromber's what the middle rounds, fifteenth pick, fourteenth pick, Yeah,
I was going to say even little. I was going
to say, he left the premium, I get it. I
was going to say somewhere in the early to mid twenties.
As you're picking the first round. That makes sense because
you're gonna you know what's going first a lot, it's
the but now, hell, you're going to take Otani.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
You go through it. But how many?

Speaker 9 (09:30):
It's like in regular fantasy, you're taking running backs most
of the time, right at least that's why it used
to be. I don't play a lot of fantasy daily.
I mean I go on an underdog and do that.
But before you're playing fantasy daily of you know, trades
and all that stuff that you guys when you pick
your fantasy team. Right is but what was fromber? Where
would he fall? How would does pitching and running backs equal?

(09:50):
We know, pitching wins championships, I mean defense, So you
got to start there, right, But the truth is, after
you get one or two pitchers out of the way,
aren't you taking Otani and the trouts and the Acunas
and those guys in the you know what I'm saying,
You're gonna take those guys not just gonna be pictures. Right,
If you were building a team, pitchers are gonna start with. Right,
You're gonna take the best picture in the league to start,

(10:12):
am I correct? Not let's put Otani on the side.
Maybe you're not. Maybe you think the best player outside
of Otani, whoever you think that is next, that that's
the guy you're gonna take.

Speaker 6 (10:25):
Ahead of you know, a pitcher.

Speaker 9 (10:28):
But if you got if you were going I'm not
even talking about fancy real baseball, you're gonna take the guy.
If a great left handed pitcher sitting at the top
of a draft, guess who's getting drafted right, you're taking
the picture right. You're going to take that guy out
of college or high school. That's dominant. And I think
if it was, if we put him in the current
players of Fromber, he's not gonna be a top ten pick.
But he's a lefty and he's really good when he's good.

(10:50):
Maybe if you're a manager, you think I can get
him to be more consistent. So yeah, first round or
but late like in the twenties early twenties for me,
if I was picked and right now, So is that
an ace? I guess maybe it is. Is it a
franchise ace for me? I like him a lot. I'm
not sure I love him. If I had a one
game thing I had to win and all the pressure

(11:10):
in the world was on.

Speaker 7 (11:11):
You just trip my brain. You know who he is.
He's Laramie Tonsil. He's Laramie Tonsil. It's he's incredibly good
when the ball is in play, he's incredibly good blocking
and all of those different things. It's the other things
that you have to Does he work hard enough? Is
he going to be on the same snap count? We're
not going to get a pre snap penalty. That's who
Fromber is. He's Laramie Tonsil.

Speaker 9 (11:32):
Again, everybody talked about all he's the best left Yeah,
I mean, and you know when you go around, you're
gonna they're gonna get to fromber quickly. When you talk
about who's the five best left handers in baseball, his
name's gonna come up.

Speaker 6 (11:42):
So that's how he's held.

Speaker 9 (11:43):
It's the back end, right right, But his name will
come up because when he's good, he's really good. But
when he's bad, it that goodness. He'll lead a few
innings up and you trust him because he keeps the
ball down and usually in the ballpark. So I don't know.
It's just like I said, I like him, but don't
love him. He would not be a ten pick in
my Major League draft if I was picking.

Speaker 7 (12:03):
Yeah, I mean a lot of hard contact from him
last night, and I saw.

Speaker 6 (12:07):
And they got on it in a hurry too, Yes
they did.

Speaker 7 (12:09):
And Moss as we saw there with the three run
third inning and then the following inning that finally got
him out the door for the night. Only four innings
last night out of fromber Valdez. So not good to
see that as the Astros fall eight to three the Rockets.

Speaker 6 (12:25):
They do know what day they're playing.

Speaker 7 (12:28):
They don't know when they are playing, but they'll find
out who they are playing tonight. The who, what, when,
where and why, all of those different things. They got
that and the NFL Draft Sean a week away. We'll
get into some draft here today. Seventeen players have accepted
invites to be there in Green Bay for the draft,
but one notable absence. We'll talk about that as the
show goes along. We're just getting started here on the

(12:50):
Sean Salisbury Show coming up. While we've talked about the bad,
there actually is some good for the Astros, and we'll
discuss that right here on the Shawn Salisbury Show Sports
Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (13:03):
Oh oh have we waited for? Hey it's Jeff Blum.
You've got more. Sean Salisbury to pick up Burry left
off Dolphins.

Speaker 10 (13:12):
On Sports Talk seven ninety Home of Your Stros.

Speaker 7 (13:18):
You know, Sean, it's funny, as I was getting ready
this morning to come in, you know, I'll scour Twitter
really quick just to see if something overnight broke that
I mean me and you. We obviously with the early
wake up, we've got to go to bed somewhat early.
And I see a graphic from the Detroit Tigers.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
That says.

Speaker 7 (13:37):
With the win, the Tigers now lead the American League
in w's with ten. The Astros are seven to nine.
While things have not gone great, you're only three wins
off of the best record pace in all of Major
League Baseball. And oh, by the way, the team that
you just being in.

Speaker 9 (13:55):
The best record pace and in the American League. Yes, sorry, sorry, yes,
thank you. But you know you just beat the Angels
two out of three, who they're in the lead right
now in the American League West. But if that doesn't
tell you what April is, I don't know what does.
Because the Angels will not be in the lead in
the American League West, probably in about a week, hell

(14:15):
a month from now, not even close. And if they are,
I'll go back on my words. But that's not going.

Speaker 6 (14:20):
To be the case.

Speaker 9 (14:21):
All the history says no. I would think the pitching
be different this year. We'll see and how healthy are
they going to stay? And you know Trout started slow
and he's starting to pick up the tempo a little bit.
We know that he'll hit, but you know, I'll even
give him through the month. But by the time May ends,
I'll be shocked if they're not somewhere in third or
fourth place.

Speaker 7 (14:40):
They do, they do seem like they do seem like
they have I mean at least decent enough players.

Speaker 9 (14:45):
Yeah, Shannon Well is a good player. It's Goodera Pucci.
Would they get him for forty some million or something?

Speaker 6 (14:51):
Yeah, I think it was like three years forty five
something like that.

Speaker 9 (14:54):
So they've upgraded now health and you know, getting the
production out of them and what is it Wash, you know,
running the show and he's a KG veteran, so he
gets it. And I love that to one of my
favorites of all time. So that they'll hang around for
a while, and if they're healthy, they may hang around longer.
But this division is there's I don't see a lot

(15:14):
of separation, and the division throughout the year. When I
say a lot of separation where we get with somebody's
got a seven or eight game lead, I don't see it.
And so yeah, you start to look at it and
the inconsistencies. Man, this picture boom boom boom, up and down.

Speaker 6 (15:25):
And the hitting.

Speaker 9 (15:26):
Really, we've had very few games where you've rolled through
the Friday night game last week big we've rolled through
and said, Okay, everybody's getting involved offensively so, and it'll happen.
But it's not a matter of if it'll happen, it's
a matter of when and how many you know what
I'm saying, then how much you over it were you're like,
are you gonna do Manny Machado with the pot or

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should I say Tatista? Like when you go in that
roll right the way the pod where you're saying, damn,
do whatever you do, throw the ball like forty seven
feet outside the guy, because if it's close, he's not
just hammering it. He's hammered it to a I mean
to the point of you're like, you can't get him
out right, So when guys are going through that, and

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that will happen with the yord On where it's like, okay,
just just you're wise, just pitch around him. Unless it's
a seven run game, we're getting our ass kicked. Okay,
then just challenge him any way you want, but be
prepared for the result. Right, that's when you get on
that roll we haven't seen yet seven and nine. It's
not a beautiful start, but there's good stuff to pluck
from it there.

Speaker 6 (16:28):
Then Paratus is a big one. He really is.

Speaker 9 (16:31):
He's really elevated that position, and they will get it rolling,
I would imagine with the long ball consistently, So not concerned.
It's just the consistent inconsistency that probably bothers you. Yet
sixteen games in, Eh, it's gonna be fine. Now if
you ask, if you said, Sean there, they're they're four
and twelve, then we'd be all, here we go get it.

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Now you're chasing the whole time, right, So they're nobody's
gonna run, and Detroit will stay there and somebody will
take that lead.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
They'll go on a roll.

Speaker 9 (17:01):
And you know, it's the same thing here. It's gonna
be You're gonna play you know, tennis all year long.
Oh Seattle, Oh Texas Rangers. Oh this team Angels at
the top. We've seen the movie The Angels before, start
fast and then go by the wayside. So I think
the depth tier is enough. Now, get mcclors back and
you know, Gusto in the position that he's going to

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being more than likely back in the bullpen, and continue
to get performances like was Nesky gave you this past weekend.
And as these new guys and Cam Smith sees more
pitches and Christian Walker gets back in the mode, and
then your done's going to happen. That's that's a as
close to a guarantee as they have on this team.
So they're gonna be fine. But how good is fine?

(17:41):
Is find long term consistency or is it you're hovering
around five hundred baseball or a little over five hundred
most of the year.

Speaker 7 (17:48):
Yeah, I mean, and to kind of the consistent inconsistency
that you mentioned with the lineup, I mean, it's just like,
why do all of you have to take a smoke
break at once? Like seriously, Like that's it's is the
case with this team. Like you get Friday night, as
you mentioned, where they just they couldn't miss the baseball.
It was barreling up like nobody's business. And then you

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get last night, which Gray Good.

Speaker 9 (18:13):
Sunny Gray good pitching is gonna Sunny Gray was outstanding.
He was what you wanted from her to be last night,
And there's the consistent inconsistency. Friday night, how'd you like it?
Pretty damn good? Saturday?

Speaker 6 (18:25):
How'd you like it? Not so much? Sunday? How'd you
like it pretty damn good?

Speaker 10 (18:29):
Bad?

Speaker 6 (18:30):
Yeah? Monday? How'd you like it?

Speaker 8 (18:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (18:32):
Not good? Now we got Tuesday.

Speaker 9 (18:34):
So that's the that's the consistent inconsistency that you know,
is this who they are sixteen games? And I'm not
judging who anybody is, right, but we do know as
you start to get in that forty to sixty range,
you get an idea of the identity your team. And
if fifty games in there, twenty six and twenty four
or twenty four and twenty six, then maybe that's who

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they are. And it's just gonna be one of those
battles because I don't see a ninety plus win team
in this divis vision. Now, maybe I may be crazy,
but if you get to ninety wins, don't you think
you're winning the division? Here?

Speaker 6 (19:06):
I think you'd run away with it.

Speaker 9 (19:08):
Yeah, I mean I think I'm thinking eighty seven to
eighty nine wins and there get to ninety, I think
you probably win it by two and a half games.
If you get to three games, if you get to
know early nineties, you might have a little comfort the
last week or for a week and a half of
the season. So in this division, I just don't see it.
But I do see when we hit eighty games, forty two,

(19:32):
thirty eight thirty nine and forty one. You know for
whatever that you know what I'm saying. I see that
that's the type of team. I see three games one
way or the other, still within striking distance, maybe a
small lead. But I think, and we've I think going
in we kind of got a feeling this is kind
of who they may we may have to fight through.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
Right now.

Speaker 9 (19:48):
You're working through injuries and pitching staff and moving guy
from bullpen to starting pitching. And you got to your
your ace who's really good when he's really good, and
quite frankly, isn't very good when he's not.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
And it's Tod A.

Speaker 9 (19:58):
Brown going to be the ace and man wiz Nesky
he's better than a five and can be overpowering at
times and pounds of strikes. I mean, you try, is
a bullpen going to be this? And Bray you and
Hater got their business taken the back. All the questions
that everybody goes through, some have less ifs than probably
this team. But at the beginning season, didn't we say
this just may be different. All the new bodies. It
may not look it sure's heck doesn't look with the

(20:21):
rapper looks different because there's different bodies and stars that
aren't here anymore. But the performance doesn't have to be
that much different. But I don't think this team say, wow,
they wont one hundred and one games. Wow, they won
ninety five games. Now, you can go on a fortunate run,
and you got to have some help from your divisional
friends to fall off a little bit. But I just
think that this is a grind, and you know what,

(20:41):
I'm okay with that. I'm okay if they got a grind.
Matter of fact, sometimes I learn more about it. If
they have to grind it out and win eighty nine games,
eighty eight games and get in, I can live with that, right,
I can live with that. So and win the division
by two games or three games, you know, everybody hopefully
plays one hundred and sixty two of them and you
get your take care of your business. But I come

(21:03):
into the season expecting then when we got two weeks left,
there's three teams battling for the division.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
That's how I see this team. Now.

Speaker 9 (21:10):
I feel the exact same way I did going in.
Even sixteen games in. There's some really good, there will
be some great. There's gonna be some eye popping moments
of wow. That's not good, and wow, that's phenomenal. And
then you're gonna have to mix and match some situations.
Joe's gonna have to find that comfortable lineup, and when
he does, they'll still make some changes and who's playing

(21:31):
what and who's hit and where. I think when we
get down all year long, every week, we're gonna be
having the conference oh winning streak, go losing that. I
don't think that we'll be sitting here in September saying, man,
they're out of the division or damn, I can't believe
they got the best record in the American League. I
don't think you're getting either of those extremes. It's going
to fall somewhere in between the show. I just think
that's who this team is right now, and they're a

(21:52):
little bit of a transition. Yeah, it's still very talented.
And obviously the pitching has been really good. That's been nice.

Speaker 7 (21:58):
I mean, the start pitching has had its ups and
downs at times, but you've also gotten some really good things.
I mean, Friday Night was encouraging from Annell. You mentioned
was Nesky. It was great to see that. You know,
soon enough you'll get Spencer Arraghetti back probably in about
a month and a half, two months from taking the
line drive off his thumb. And then Lance McCullers too,

(22:21):
And what do you get from Lance? I mean, I
think that's the biggest wild card of all of this.
If he looks like he did before he went out
a couple of years ago, then yeah, you feel really good.

Speaker 9 (22:31):
Then he'll be in the starting rotation and Gusta will
be back in the bullpen.

Speaker 6 (22:34):
Well, I mean, it's what that's going to look like.
It's a boost to your team if you get that.

Speaker 9 (22:38):
Listen, there's bandwidth and we all need it and they
need it as well, and that gives you more flexibility
that I would imagine. That's the perfect scenario with with
the mc color situation. Come back, get enough work down
of the minor leagues, keep doing build up, and then boom,
You're You're thrown into the starting rotation. Gusto's back in
the bullpen, give you long relief, can start and spot
start for you. Why you continue to work through it

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and see mcculors build up on the major league level
and you just let it rip because I think they
see him as a starter and Gusto for now is
a bullpen guy who is your guy when you need
a six starter, or guy when you somebody's out, or
you know it won't be his last start. But I
don't think that you'll see more on a as a
rotation guy as you will innings logged as a bullpen guy.

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Now mccullor's the other way around. And that's you know what,
the fact that we're talking about mccullor's back in the
rotation because I told you yesterday a year ago.

Speaker 6 (23:28):
If you just said, I.

Speaker 9 (23:29):
Said, I'm not sure he's going to pitch a starting
I'm not sure he's going to start a game. We
might have even said it, we're going to start another
game here right that he's maybe maybe it's time for
him to be a bullpen guy. Well, he's put his
time in and we'll see if this rehab continues the
way it is and he's punched back in a starting rotation,
but all all indications point to that's where he's headed
and hopefully there's no setback.

Speaker 6 (23:49):
Hopefully not.

Speaker 7 (23:49):
Well, you know, this is a team too that just
does not have the margin of air that they did
in the past when you had guys like Springer, Correa, Bregman,
other guys that right right, So, I mean it was
almost embarrassment of riches at times.

Speaker 9 (24:03):
So got to go out you realize how much you
love that embarrassment of riches when you don't have it.

Speaker 6 (24:07):
Well, that's the thing.

Speaker 7 (24:08):
I mean, you know, enjoy it while you got it,
because it don't last long, you know what it Axel
Rose say nothing lasts forever, but doesn't mean it don't change.

Speaker 6 (24:16):
Right there, you go, see.

Speaker 9 (24:17):
That pays out there that that's the great equalize when
it comes to you think you get to keep people
out of your roster forever. And this city knows all
too well. Good players come and go, but their structure
stays the same.

Speaker 7 (24:29):
The Keem ended up in Toronto for a reason, So
it happens, all right. So another that we got into
a lot of the Fromber conversation in the first segment.
If you want to weigh in on any of the
things we've talked about here in the early going seven
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Speaker 7 (26:31):
The number to get in someone three two one two
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And Sean, this is something I was thinking about on
the ride end this morning, is that let me take
you back to last offseason. You know, you've got the
league meetings happening, and there were the rumors out there,
well the Astros are shopping Kyle Tucker.

Speaker 6 (26:50):
And maybe even fromber Valdez. Well, we know what happened
with Tuck.

Speaker 7 (26:53):
But Fromber clearly, as we saw last night, he did
not get moved, and people wondering the Diastro dragged their
feet with it, was it, you know, necessarily something of
maybe they're holding out hope for a long term deal.
I think it breaks down very simply. I think that
Dana did have conversations with teams, because let's be honest here,
I mean Fromber talking with the media in West Palm Beach,

(27:16):
no offer has been made, you know, expects to go
to free agency, all of those things. The Astros are
slow playing this thing that I really truly believe, regardless
of where they are in the standings, when it comes
close to trade deadline time this year, they will be
in the market of moving from ber Valdez. And I
know that some people might say, well, Dan, okay, let's

(27:37):
just say, you know, you're a couple of games out
of first in the Al West. Do you really want
to do that? Look at the Detroit Tigers last year
and what they did with Jack Flaherty and the return
that they got, and people wondering, are you guys even
necessarily serious about going for this thing? And clearly they were,
because well we saw what happened here in two games
without Jack Flaherty with Trek Scougel on the mound, and

(27:57):
it worked out pretty good, and they got to the
DS of the playoffs and the Astros did not. So
you can absolutely make a move like this and still
be in position to win. I think that that's what
you're looking at, because deadlines in desperation makes deals, and
the Astros found that out last year with Yusai Kakuci.
So why not give other teams a dose of the

(28:19):
medicine that you had to take and you know, hey,
you really want a guy that can help you win
in the postseason, this is what's gonna cost you. I
think Dana Brown's gonna do that.

Speaker 9 (28:29):
I would imagine that that conversations had not only going
to be had, but has already been had, that where
are we depending now? I also think the reason they
haven't made an offer apparently, I mean, in my opinion,
the reason is because they still are going wait and
see on fromber even after all this time, four or
five straight years of being your guy that leads off.

Speaker 6 (28:51):
Your season, I still think it's a wait and see.

Speaker 9 (28:53):
Is he the premium premier one of the three or
four best left handers in baseball. Okay, we've got to
pay him like that top ten pitcher. If that's the case,
I think that I honestly believe they're waiting and seeing
how this turns out. Now, if they're tied or around
the chance to win it, can you they're going to
have to go over? Can you still win it with

(29:13):
from Bravaldez playing somewhere else? That answer is probably yes,
but some may say no. In the building, who knows.
Next question you're going to have is what's the hall,
how many are willing to give up for a premium
left hand or what kind of assets are we going
to get?

Speaker 6 (29:30):
That's the obvious question in this.

Speaker 9 (29:32):
The last one is if he pitches his ass off,
are we going to be able to afford him? If
he goes to free agency and then guess what happens?
You don't get anything for him?

Speaker 11 (29:45):
What is it.

Speaker 9 (29:45):
A supplemental pick or whatever they call that, Hey, thank
you very much, picked to protect you. But it's nowhere
near what you would have got at the break trade deadline.
And we've seen the movie now at least we seen
You're fortunate to move Kyle Tucker before his de and
get assets but with Alex Bregman, if you had a
traded bregnante last year's trade deadline, you would have got

(30:08):
a haul for him. So that's what they're faced with.
Then you got to ask yourself, Okay, if he doesn't
pitch well between now and he's just up and down
between now and in the trade deadline, we can is
it really worth you know, investing the rest and let's
go get some prospects or some other guys that maybe
a little that we got control over. Right, So I

(30:28):
think that there's going to be a lot of that
bantering and he will be the most talked about on
this roster as far as big time impact of going forward.
Do you Bregman it or do you Tucker it? Get
out in front, even though Tucker's was done in the
off season during Phrasesey, I'm just talking about, do you
make sure you get something for them whenever you can

(30:48):
trade deadline or in the off season, because once he's
a free agent, now you're screwed. So you got to
figure out is he your guy for the next five
or six years after this? And I would guess right
now that they're not sure. That's my opinion, because if
they were sure, I would think that they'd make at
least an offer that has him tempted.

Speaker 6 (31:07):
Now I go the opposite way.

Speaker 7 (31:10):
I think they are sure, and no offer, no hint
of conversations, anything of the sort, tells me that they've
moved on.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
Do you think they've already moved on? Yes, I do.

Speaker 9 (31:20):
I think that if he were to go on a
roll and be make the All Star team, I think
that they would consider what's it going to take. But
if he does that goes on a role, they're going
to realize they're not going to pay him what he's
gonna want.

Speaker 6 (31:37):
As a free agent.

Speaker 9 (31:38):
I think the chances that from rival does is you're
starting pitcher next year or on your roster next year are.

Speaker 6 (31:42):
Slim almost to none.

Speaker 9 (31:45):
But I don't think one hundred percent of the people
in that building are convinced yet it's time to go.
But I think a lot of them, in my opinion,
feel that when you see a performance like yesterday, that
it's just the full on trust you may have for
when Verlander was in his prime or Trek Scooble, those
kind of guys. I think that they think that that's
a notch below them right now that he's a notch

(32:07):
below that.

Speaker 7 (32:09):
And that's the type of guy that doesn't get money
from that. Absolutely not.

Speaker 9 (32:12):
And that's that's exactly why depending on where you are,
and maybe even no matter where you are, you have
to consider offers. It will come because they're all looking
towards you. I know, the Ashers don't want to overpay
for anybody. They are all going to be looking premium
left hander. Can he take us to another level? And
watch teams like teams that have already got the Dodgers

(32:33):
will incline. I'm just telling you they will. They want
to talk about greedy and I don't blame them. I
they can afford it. They'll start to look around, what
are you willing to give up? But that he'll be
one of the most talked about guys at the trade
deadline success or non success because he's a left hander
who's shown that he can be dominant a lot of times. Yeah,
we'll get back to Brown. Will be your starting pitcher
in twenty twenty six on opening open the season?

Speaker 7 (32:55):
Yeah, No, I'm fully there and he's absolutely deserved it,
especially the way that he started off this season. He
continues being that guy. Well, then I think you feel
pretty good about where you are going forward. All right, Sean,
we've mixed in aliens onto the kind of conversation before.
Are you intrigued by the creatures of the third kind?

Speaker 6 (33:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (33:15):
I don't know if I buy it, but I'm not
a conspiracy theorist. But as we go on, more and more, well,
we got enough aliens on the earth? Okay, Yeah, maybe
man was telling us something. Yeah, you want me to
start naming them? I can tell you they are but MiB,
but I call it MiB mid and black MiB. I
like the You know you're a big acronym guy. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah,

(33:36):
acronym MiB. But yeah, I would think that they're I'm
starting to think that maybe there's other there's other forms
I used to poo pooed away, like me, give me
a break, but or our government's really.

Speaker 6 (33:51):
Whacked out, which we we already know that.

Speaker 9 (33:53):
So yeah, yeah, I'm not real sure, but I'm always
willing to is. I'm never a guy that doesn't isn't
open to new ideas in common.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
Well, maybe I can change your mind. I'm all here,
I'm all ears. We'll do that right here, Sean Salisbury show, Hey, you.

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Speaker 6 (34:43):
By you're back. This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 10 (34:47):
Get back at it.

Speaker 7 (34:49):
But Sean, apparently contact with aliens has already been documented
and has happened.

Speaker 6 (34:56):
Remember what was it? Was it last week? I think
we did this.

Speaker 7 (34:59):
CIA st worry about somebody who basically could you know,
I don't know if it soothed the saying or you know,
not even necessarily seeing into the future, but could have
visions of things. Well, the CIA has a document that
alleges there was a news story from decades ago when
the old Soviet Union was around, that Soviet soldiers had

(35:21):
shot down a UFO with a surface to air missile.
Then five short humanoids got out of the craft and
turned the Soviet soldiers except for two of them, into stone.
The remains of the soldiers and the wreckage were transferred
to a secret scientific research institution near Moscow. So we've

(35:43):
already there, you go. See, we've already made contact. You
don't have to have Richard Dreyfuss out there. We don't
have to have the light show right there in morse
code to like talk to them, and you know, like
it would be interesting enough. Like here at seven ninety
if say there was an alien craft that landed on
the parking deck right there, who would we send out,
Like who would we say, like, hey, you know you

(36:05):
be the one and maybe not even seven ninety rod Ryan,
any of those people who would we send out to say, hey,
make contact?

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Well?

Speaker 9 (36:11):
Are we sending them out because we hope they're taking away?
Or we sending them out because we want information? Both
That list may be different depending.

Speaker 7 (36:18):
I mean, I mean I think that if nothing else,
it's all right. If there is an abduction, would they
necessarily be returned safely, but also too, could they get
enough information out of them that, oh we can understand
them now more.

Speaker 9 (36:33):
That's a hell of a question. I who would be
the rep. Well, I vote Matt Thomas.

Speaker 6 (36:45):
That's fine. We'll let Matt be the guinea pig. That's good.

Speaker 9 (36:49):
He can go do He travels a lot. Maybe he'd
like that space trout. He's a magnanimous person, he's all over,
he's ubiquitous. Yes, absolutely, Look, yeah, I'm okay with that. Now,
if you said they came here and we knew they
were the friendlies, and they said the first five people
outside the building get to come with us, but you're
coming back, and we knew it was a guarantee. I'm
taking that vacation trip.

Speaker 6 (37:09):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (37:10):
I got a lot of vacation time, so I'm gonna
use it. And why not there? But if you're going
to Geah, you could send Matt out there, that's fine.
Like I said, he understands travel and not even be
able to fly the damn ship.

Speaker 7 (37:22):
Possibly possibly, I mean, you know, and and interstell stellar
travel could possibly be a part of it, because you know,
you're you're moving at speeds of lights.

Speaker 9 (37:30):
Right, and you had me when it said five little
creatures basically yeahoid, yeah, humanoids, not to be confused with
the hemorrhoid. No, yeah, yeah right. Well you may not
want the humanoids either, but we'll see. I give them
benefit of that made they might be cool. Well, but
when they come out and then they turned the Russian
guys into stone, I was, I was, you had me,

(37:54):
you lost me at right out of a sci fi
cartoon or a movie, sci fi movie, and I'm yeah, uh,
Tommy Lee Jones and Will Smith are popping out that
you know when they hit the flash on them and
that they their memory forgets everything they just saw. Ye,
do we really deep down believe that anybody can turn

(38:15):
you to stone?

Speaker 11 (38:15):
Now?

Speaker 6 (38:15):
I understand they could probably melt you with a with.

Speaker 9 (38:17):
A sometime, but you know, with the the fire with
what do they call a fire gun or whatever that
you know, with fire comes out, or they can you know,
do some stuff that could really do damage your body.
I don't know how they're gonna turn it to stone. Well,
I mean we said humanoids, not the Dear Lord himself.

Speaker 7 (38:34):
There, They're they're creatures of another dimension. We don't know,
we don't know, what these creatures are.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
Do you believe it? Oh? Absolutely, absolutely, idea. I'm gonna
take that.

Speaker 9 (38:43):
I'm gonna take the other side and say I think
it's hogwash.

Speaker 7 (38:46):
Well, I mean, like Elon Musk, for example, is is
is against you know, believing that there is like advanced
life outside of here, or at least that that we've
already made contact with. But somebody brought up a good point.
That's what somebody who is of another dimension would want
you to believe.

Speaker 9 (39:04):
Right that that's they're part of it. So you think
we have walking, walking zombies on the planet. Yes, that,
like we'll walk by them and this could be somebody
in this building we walked by, So that dude's not
of this of this planet.

Speaker 6 (39:15):
Do I mean?

Speaker 9 (39:16):
It's if you had a different color or one of
those things that when you go into a hotel and
they put the blue you know, the blue light on
and you see the stuff you don't want to see. Yeah,
that so we have that here. It comes to humanoids.
Do you drive on the roads every single day? Yeah,
there are some people. Know those are just stupid. There's
just idiots. Okay, maybe they got flashed.

Speaker 6 (39:34):
No, those are the ones. So do I believe it.

Speaker 9 (39:38):
I believe that maybe that there is possibility there's some
other people are living human form somewhere else. I don't know,
but do I believe that. I've walked down and all
the guys say, lasers made of stone?

Speaker 6 (39:51):
No, I'm gonna.

Speaker 9 (39:52):
I'm gonna probably If that's the case, why haven't we
ever There's always I spotted them, but why haven't we
ever seen them?

Speaker 6 (39:58):
It's interesting? I mean, there are are people. Was it?

Speaker 7 (40:01):
There was the Las Vegas backyard where they were like,
we have no idea what the hell this is? And
then what was it the Miami Mall? I like, what
the hell are these things?

Speaker 9 (40:09):
I me at the concert at the kid Rock this weekend. Oh,
all of a sudden you look up and you see
a round circle. Wasn't a helicopter, wasn't a plane? I
I videoed it, and about eighteen other people what was
looking up? A bunch of people looked a us saying
what the hell is that? And all of a sudden
it was a circle, and it kept coming closer and
closer and closer, and then poof, it sent a big

(40:31):
circle like a which looked like a if you were
to send out like a puff were like a different
colored baby part, you know what, like you know somebody
like when they when Michael Jordan blows the talcum powder.
It puffed in a circle. It got bigger and then
the circle disappeared. Honestly got truth. And one guy who
looked at me, I said.

Speaker 6 (40:52):
Am I losing my mind?

Speaker 10 (40:53):
What is that?

Speaker 6 (40:54):
Getting closer? And it started to grow circular?

Speaker 12 (40:58):
It this weekend? Yes, okay, yes we did too. I'm
telling you because I yes, I was in Lono, Texas. Yes,
and this was about. This is it's a little it's
dark enough.

Speaker 9 (41:09):
It was about and it started and I saw it
in a circle and it poofed and a big ring
kind of went out into the universe. And it was
not a plane. It was not jet stream at night.
And I had a couple standing next. I said, am
I seeing something? Was my eyes with myns playing tricks
on me? He started looking, they started taking He goes, damn,
maybe there is aliens because it thing and people stand

(41:32):
He's singing and people start to turn and look up
at it, and fifteen people take their phone out. I
have it, but I don't know what it is, but
it it did it. This was not an airplane. This
is not a helicopter. I don't believe in that. It's like,
come on, man, it's just whatever happened. And it wasn't
a shooting star. And it got closer and got bigger
and bigger, and literally above where we were. You look
to your left in Lono, Texas, you could see it.

(41:54):
And then it shot out what looked like a some
form of powder or whatever. It is a little little
subtle color and it got bigger in a big ring,
and a few seconds after that it disappeared.

Speaker 6 (42:09):
Encounter that And so I don't know what it was.

Speaker 9 (42:12):
But and I don't believe when everybody says they said, yeah,
I get off this your stone or you're you're drunk,
and that wasn't either. So and I had to confirm
that my eyes were seeing right and we weren't the
only ones. And still I still have zero idea, but
it it was. It was odd. It was odd, and
then you think, well, somebody experiment and what's going on

(42:33):
out there?

Speaker 8 (42:33):
What is that?

Speaker 11 (42:34):
Now?

Speaker 9 (42:35):
I didn't see people start to fall, by the way,
so I'd like you'd see in a movie with that
puff whatever it whatever, it shot out of whatever it was,
and it made a big circle ring like you'd put
like a puff of smoke that you'd blow if you
were a cigarette smoker that knew how to blow circle
smoke rings. Right, that's what it looked like, a big one.
And then that thing went a little bit further and
there was another you could see a plane flying through.

(42:56):
And then that went a little further and all of
a sudden, what what ever shot it at? Whatever it
shot it out?

Speaker 6 (43:03):
Was uh?

Speaker 9 (43:04):
That disappeared that James, if it was just me and
I was late, I said, dude, I don't know what
I saw. I was dreaming this. But the dude and
his girls standing next to us said, now that's weird,
and they got on video too. They had no idea.
None of us had any idea what it was. But
twenty five people were looking. Because everybody we had to
turn our back to the concert to look at it.

Speaker 6 (43:23):
It was weird.

Speaker 9 (43:24):
You saw it coming, I said, what is that? You
think it's a plane from a distance, right, it's up.
It's up, big circ round shot that puff out. And
then within five seconds after it shot it out, the
thing that shot it out where it was was gone,
and that thing just got bigger and it dissipated after
a minute. Interesting. Yeah, a close encounter. As I said, Sean,

(43:46):
believe in him. I don't know, but I don't know
if they can turn me to stone. But I'd probably
rather not test it.

Speaker 6 (43:51):
I was gonna say, I don't want to find out.
You don't tempt feet. Good for the Russians. Yeah, well
there you go.

Speaker 7 (43:55):
Well, you know the Russians, Sylvie, it fell for a
reason and maybe that was a huge part of it.
All Right, coming up next, if the Texans do this,
I absolutely could see this being the case.

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Speaker 7 (44:48):
Astros lose last night in Saint Louis eight to three.

Speaker 6 (44:52):
Rockets.

Speaker 7 (44:53):
Gonna wait and see who wins tonight between the Warriors
and the Grizzlies to see who they play on Sunday,
and he missed it over the weekend, Milo Suzanne declaring
it for the NBA Draft. However, Sean, his agent does
say if the draft processes not go one hundred percent
according to plan, no transfer portal anything like that. If

(45:14):
he's playing college basketball next year, it's with the uh Koogs.

Speaker 9 (45:17):
And you know what, I'm okay with the see when
we talk transfer portal and all the nonsense that goes
on and what's going on with Nico, And it won't
be the last one we're close to having. Whi's going
to be a We've had enough sad and bummer days
because college football. To me, college football Saturdays are the
greatest all fall long, better than NFL Sundays, better than

(45:38):
NBA Opening Day, better than college football Saturday. And I
love Baseball's opening Day, Major League Baseball. But just the
constant Saturdays. Tell me, when you go to bed at
Friday night, you're not pumped a wake up early on
a Saturday Friday night, You're already pumped right now, right,
and to wake up early on Saturdays right to get
you want to start setting up putting ice in the
chest all those things you want to do because it's

(45:59):
college football, whether having people overnight, it's just it's a
different feeling.

Speaker 6 (46:03):
It's not the same anymore.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Now.

Speaker 9 (46:04):
I'm not saying the players aren't good, it's just not
the same. And if you ca well, that's old schools now.
Saying it's not the same doesn't mean there's not good
football played. But saying it's not the same also can
also mean there's things that they changed that they didn't
need to. All you need to do is a justin
we are at a time now we went from one
extreme of being crappy and a second extreme of now

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being to the point where crappy to the kids, and
now to the point where they run everything and you're
doing it. And finally Tennessee put a stop to it.
So now we're there. But I don't have a problem
when you just transfer three and four times and it's
about the money and you don't care. I got a
problem with it. And that's why it's going. We're gonna
run coaches out of the business. But what Tennessee did,
And when you talk about Juzane going to the pros, I.

Speaker 6 (46:47):
Go test it.

Speaker 9 (46:48):
If you think you're pro ready and you're going to
be a first round draft pick. Have had it a
problem with that or wherever the whatever that draft status is. Now,
if one more year could go you from second round
to first round with this teacher here and Calvin Sampson,
I would suggest you come back and make another run
because I'm convinced their team can be better next year
with the right people back and recruits doing their thing

(47:12):
and that hunger which will still be there. I'm convinced
they can, so I don't.

Speaker 6 (47:18):
Have a problem. Go test it.

Speaker 9 (47:19):
If he's a fifteenth pick of the draft, I'm just
throwing numbers out and he says, I'm ready for the NBA.
Cool didn't have at it, but the old transferred three times.
You're not paying me enough.

Speaker 10 (47:29):
I'm leaving.

Speaker 6 (47:30):
You're leaving to go be play pro sports.

Speaker 9 (47:35):
There's a spot for you if you don't like your
draft status, so your pre draft grade, come on back, man,
We'll use you now. If you say, well, if I
don't do that, then I'm going to come back and
enter the portal. I wouldn't let him come back. Once
you decide to leave for another school, you don't get
a redo with me. I doesn't mean I'm a bitter
atch it.

Speaker 6 (47:51):
You go do your thing.

Speaker 9 (47:52):
Listen to Highpool yesterday. We're going to coach the guys
that are here. But yeah, guys that were guys that
want to be here to do it the right way.
Don't kid yourself. That was a dig at Nico one
hundred percent and his dad and wanted. The bottom line
comes down to they wanted more money and they haven't
earned it. And there's no reason for a kid to
be making more money than the entire coaching staff other

(48:12):
than the head coach when you're not proven, you had
one decent season. Decent season, I'm just telling you they're
replaceable and so but I don't have any problem with
him going testing pros and coming on back, and why
would you. I want to take money out of their
pocket the right way, but we're doing it the wrong
way in college. So unfortunately, our college football Saturdays and

(48:35):
maybe basketball is easier to understand because we have a
lot the one and done thing prepared us for that.
Right the guy comes one year, he's gone, So you
really don't. Your roster's changing all the time. I don't
like the way that why they're leaving for more money
and you're the eighth guy on the roster and you
want one point five million bucks.

Speaker 6 (48:53):
Stop it.

Speaker 9 (48:54):
Okay, you're a rotation guy and you want me to
pay you more than every asistant possibly combined on my
staff in college basketball? What's a college basketball as system
making if you're the top assistant half a million bucks? Yeah,
probably maybe a million bike if you're a long time
Bill Murray's son's probably making that.

Speaker 6 (49:11):
Okay, there's this.

Speaker 9 (49:15):
There're one college coach was in the recruiting portal. The
guys he's he said, he'll be like an eighth guy
in rotation. Got a good player, but he's not going
to start for us one on one point five million dollars.
They said, well, good luck or you wherever you go. Yeah,
that's the point where that's where we're at. That's not
the way this was supposed to be and it never
will be. The college football rules stuff and the NC

(49:36):
two A and college sports is a joke right now.
And also, and I love my guy dan Orlovski, but
to make the excuse that Nico's just a kid, they're
not kid.

Speaker 6 (49:45):
They're not a kid.

Speaker 9 (49:46):
When they got four million dollars and they're spending it
or they get their driver's license. They're having a blast,
but they are They get a new crib when they're
nineteen years old, bigger than their parents. Yet there When
when are they grown adults?

Speaker 6 (49:57):
When do we call it?

Speaker 9 (49:57):
When he's twenty one? Hell, we're calling guys in the NFL,
Well he's been a league three is He's just a kid.
He's just he's sway. Nico's old enough to understand that
his parents or his dad or whoever was directing him, say, well,
do I really want to do this? He's not twelve,
he's a he's pushing adulthood. He's old enough to do
a lot of things. Okay, so, and I loved him,
but dead wrong. Oh the kid, stop it. That that's

(50:21):
that's society now. Every time he mentioned, well, eighteen, he's
just a kid, so let him, let him do the
wrong thing without holding him accountable, even though his parents,
he's old.

Speaker 6 (50:29):
Enough to do what.

Speaker 9 (50:30):
He's at college on his own. He's a big boy. Okay,
Well that's exactly right. So to make the excuse that
though these kids are just young, oh your summer, young
or immature or dumb or smart, whatever it is. But
we got to stop making the excuses because we've we've
we force feed him and then we all you know,
get him ready, and all of a sudden, then we
just coddled them. Listen, Nico, Nico wanted more money and

(50:53):
they didn't think he was worth us. They ran his
ass out, simple. And if his dad's advising him and
you have a bad feeling about him, say dad, no,
I love to If he loved Tennessee and was secure
with his money, he had told his dad, no, no, no,
not today. I'm staying where I want, where I'm going
to school. Quit living your dreams through me. If it's
the dad doing it, that's the kid who's in class,
that's the kid who's playing. It's not the parents' job

(51:13):
to sit there and say, well, you're doing it for us.

Speaker 6 (51:15):
No they're not. You've already been through high school. You
didn't do it. This kid is and now he's got
to go. So I feel for everybody involved.

Speaker 9 (51:22):
But the adults screwed it up, and the kids are
just maximizing, taking advantage of way way too much player empowerment,
way too much at every level, at every level. And
until we have more Tennessees that say you're replaceable, dude,
the guy in the meeting room, will just will be
just fine. And what quarterback wouldn't want to play in
a ninety play offensive game and being Hypel's high paced offense.

(51:44):
Don't worry about Tennessee getting a guy to throw the football.
They're going to be just fine.

Speaker 7 (51:48):
Well for coaches in for people like Orlowski their kids
when it suits your argument. But then when everything's going great,
all these young men, that's what it. Of course, it's
North Dallas forty. You know, I call it a business.
You call it again.

Speaker 6 (52:00):
I called a game. He called a business. That's one
hundred percent right.

Speaker 9 (52:03):
And and I just don't you know, miss me with anyway,
just just completely missed me with the the uh he's
and I love him, yeah I do, but miss me
with a He's just a kid, He's just a gad.

Speaker 6 (52:15):
I'll tell you the big story, very lead.

Speaker 9 (52:18):
Is for a guy who is so hardcore, who I
love and I think he's maybe the best coach of
all time. He's in the he's in the Mount Rushmore
conversation at any level. I can't believe Belichick's letting that
girlfriend of his dude. She's done with high heels walking.
You talk about a guy who's looks a little over whipped.

Speaker 6 (52:39):
Yeah you can't.

Speaker 9 (52:41):
She's in high go go boots, walk on the field
delivering stuff to him during practice. Can you imagine if
a player under Bray, under Bill's regime in the NFL
would have said, had his girl deliver hill she's got
my cell phone or she's got my I left my my,
I left my my, my peanut butter sounds and she
walks on the field and just kind of hanging out.

Speaker 6 (53:00):
It almost looks like she's making decisions.

Speaker 9 (53:03):
Look like I'm saying, first off, I'm surprised Bill lets
anybody even anywhere near the ends on her field during prey.

Speaker 6 (53:10):
It was weird. I'm like, this is the all time. No,
don't do it.

Speaker 9 (53:13):
I understand maybe he switched his personality a little bit,
but to the point where your girlfriend is seventy two
years younger than you, Yeah, I know she loves him.

Speaker 6 (53:22):
I fatuation. No offense to you, ladies.

Speaker 9 (53:27):
When I'm coaching, or when Bill Belichick's coaching. If that
was a player that walked on her summer keys, get
your ass off of her.

Speaker 6 (53:32):
Administrator. The girl waltz right out there like Sean.

Speaker 9 (53:36):
It's undefeated, and I get it, but I'll tell you
where it needs to be defeated. When Bill Belichick's coaching,
get your ass on the sidelines like everybody else. Don't
be and do me a favor. Just dress for football.
If you're gonna be like his general manager at North
Carolina is right. If you're gonna be that, damn Mike

(53:59):
Lombardi her. If you're gonna be that, then can I
ask you to put on maybe a pair of cloud shoes,
maybe some sweats, you know, maybe some sweats and a
T shirt that says North Carolina and a powder blue hat.
There could be a right, right, great? Just I mean,
whatever she wants. I don't care what. But you know what,
just just look the sports part white, the go go boots,

(54:22):
Ain't it okay? And here's another thing. How many times
do you think you're gonna hear this? I wonder which
one of the players is trying to hit on the
white Oh yeah, dude, that that story's coming. I'm just
telling you it's coming.

Speaker 8 (54:37):
Now.

Speaker 6 (54:38):
If she's crazy.

Speaker 9 (54:39):
Enough to entertain talking to a player at a party
and like over there removed bad idea, He'll scholarship will
be no longer. Trust me, it'll be because Bill doesn't
like that. But she's got to have to guard a
gets about hanging around a little too much because the
perception is gonna be, well, she's about thirty years closer
to there age, then she is his. She's gonna be

(55:03):
That's gonna be the percept, right, I mean, but that,
Oh wonder if Bill she's in love with them? But
what's going he loves him or does she love him?

Speaker 6 (55:09):
Why she in it?

Speaker 9 (55:10):
And I do I don't know why. I mean, I'm
hoping they're in love. A little bit of a difference
in age.

Speaker 8 (55:15):
I get.

Speaker 6 (55:17):
It's probably not my style, but that's Bill.

Speaker 9 (55:20):
But walking around a go Go boots at least say honey,
My reputation is I don't allow this stuff. Nobody gets
to I'm the voice in the face, and nobody go
put some tennis shoes, sweatpants and a hooded sweatshirt on
that says North Carolina tar heels and take the go

(55:41):
Go boots off on the grass field. Okay, you mean
the perceptions already out there, don't add to it and
fuel it. Okay, sorry, but that's not the place for
the girlfriend or wife during practice.

Speaker 7 (55:56):
There's for anybody else. Male or female. There's hypnotize powers.
That's all I'm gonna say, Sean, there's hypnotizing powers. Trust me,
I've been there. And then after the fact, I'm like,
you idiots, I can tell you what.

Speaker 9 (56:10):
But in the moment, I'm sure we've all had that voodoo,
that voodoo that you're like, no matter what do you follow?
You know that voodoo that like controlled that Yeah, you know,
trust me, it's fairly undefeated. But to be a point
in time where I'm at work, I know you're the GM,

(56:30):
but you still don't belong down here in white go
go boots, get your ass in a pair of sweats.

Speaker 6 (56:37):
I've got eighteen year olds that are.

Speaker 9 (56:38):
Thinking, hmmm, is losing my scholarship worth going after the girlfriend?
There's other schools. The transfer portal is wide open. Oh yeah,
so is the kid get your ass kicked out of
the program portal too. Imagine saying I'm just saying, imagine
that legend.

Speaker 6 (56:52):
He already.

Speaker 9 (56:54):
We already know what the Yeah, you ballsy, you know
you have optics already tell you you got to fight
against what we already are thinking, not to let it
creep into the program.

Speaker 7 (57:06):
And then then the coach, the program. Yeah, yeah, and
then the coach says, hey, don't take a run at
my lady. Yeah, she's not my type, believe it.

Speaker 9 (57:14):
But then you got to go tell your guys, hey,
make sure you're studying. Girlfriends aren't allowed in the hotel
room at night. I know he's Bill Belichick, he's been around.
He didn't have to live to the same rules as
the players. I get all that, but the perception is,
don't We're not gonna let her do nighttime bedcheck right
to not doing that as a general manager.

Speaker 6 (57:33):
Right, Yeah, the optics were not good. Bill's turned over
a new leaf.

Speaker 7 (57:38):
It's it's definitely uh, it'd be interesting to get you know,
Vrabel and all those guys takes.

Speaker 6 (57:43):
You know, he'll be smoking that leaf if this keeps up.

Speaker 7 (57:45):
So there you go, Bill's Bill's going down an interesting path,
no doubt about it. Brian, see you right there. We'll
get you involved in the conversation. Also to craziness at
the happiest place on Earth. We'll explain right here. Sean
Salisbury show.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
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Speaker 11 (58:00):
This is a.

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Because right now you see light on Houston right left,
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Speaker 13 (58:21):
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Speaker 6 (58:26):
Salisbury Show, Sports Talks. Seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (58:30):
Astros lose last night eight three to the Cardinals in
Saint Louis. Rockets Game one of their Western Conference playoff
series is going to be on Sunday time, an opponent
to be determined in the NFL Draft a week away.
Seventeen players are going to be there on Draft night again.
Seven one three, two one two five, seven ninety. The
conversation we were just having Sewan, Brian wants to weigh

(58:53):
in on it. Brian, what's going on?

Speaker 6 (58:55):
Hey, guys show.

Speaker 11 (58:57):
I appreciate you actually talking about sports, unlike the other.

Speaker 6 (59:00):
Show on the morning. Sean.

Speaker 11 (59:02):
I'd watched you a lot in Detroit when I was
up there in the Silver Dome and Barry Sanders days.

Speaker 6 (59:08):
Appreciate you. Yeah, well, thank you, and I'm sorry you
had to face him. Yeah, that was it was. It sucked.
I mean, it was a pleasure to watch him play.

Speaker 9 (59:16):
The problem was with all those twice a year, having
to face him in those in those games, it was like, oh,
we got to tackle this guy again practice week, everything,
So I loved our trips there. Yet he was sure special,
so thanks for the compliment.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Man.

Speaker 11 (59:29):
Yeah, nobody in Detroit went to the bathroom when the
Bans had the ball.

Speaker 6 (59:33):
But my quote is today you.

Speaker 11 (59:35):
Guys are talking about NIL and the players and when
they become adults and old enough, Well, today's Uncle Sam,
I RS day and all those guys are going to
get hit with adult times today with how much money
they got to pantash is on all that income.

Speaker 6 (59:49):
So I love the show. I just want to hear
what your thoughts are and thank you one hundred percent.

Speaker 9 (59:55):
That's the one they've read. A great point and we've
mentioned this in the past, on it all this and
all this money, athlete, if you're not being advised right,
you're two million dollars in NIL. Ain't two million dollars okay?
You pay the same taxes and NC two A or
government in Congress. Don't you dare or stay whoever is

(01:00:18):
in control of that. Don't you dare let them walk away?
You don't even do that for our military. Don't you
have one ounce of let's let these kids get their
money tax free, save it. They're not pastors at a
church at megachurches. Okay, they need to pay taxes and
they're gonna pay today, if not today, whatever they're paying.

(01:00:41):
But yes, it's to come to Jesus. Now, Oh, did
you go out and spend all that money? Hopefully you
put You've been advised well to make sure you save it,
because you are paying whatever your tax bracket is on
that coin.

Speaker 6 (01:00:54):
You don't get a break.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Now.

Speaker 9 (01:00:56):
If you're in Texas, you're not paying a state tax,
but federal tax you're paying it. And if we're wise,
we never ever, ever they're treated just like every other
person who has go get a job, because that's what
this is is a career.

Speaker 6 (01:01:10):
It's a job.

Speaker 9 (01:01:11):
It's no longer. Oh my gosh, these guys aren't getting paid.
They should be. We need collective bargaining. We need a
union for these college players. And they need to be
able to be cut. They need to be able to
be traded. They need to be able to hold out
if they want and ask for more money, no problem.
We could trade you to another university. We can cut you,
or we can decide to redo, rip up your scholarship
and give you more nil money, which is basically hand

(01:01:32):
to hand cash whether they like it or not, from
the collective. That's exactly what it is. Nil is truly name,
image and likeness. Oh, the guy's doing a Mercedes Ben's commercial.
Let's pay him to do a Mercedes Ben's commercial. Not like, well,
we're raising money from all our boosters. Is stuck in
a pot and we got to pay you to keep you,
which has happened thousands of times through this transfer stuff.
He's one hundred percent correct. And you know what, I'm

(01:01:55):
glad they're taxing their ass and I hope they continue.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
To do it.

Speaker 9 (01:01:57):
Do not give them any leeway. They need to learn
that it's big boy time, big girl time. You make
your money, you make one hundred grand, you're taking whatever
your twenty eight percent, whatever your tax bracket is. The
federal Government's taken it, whether you like it or not.
And there is no booster. Now, if a booster is
gonna pay it, you better be able to cover why
and how you got the money to pay it. See
though they don't how to track your ass down, so

(01:02:19):
and they will, So I'm so glad that they do it.
And there I promise you, there's going to be kids
throughout this thing. In parents who are going to be
in over their head tax wives because they did not
prepare for it. And today and great, great point by
him is that all this it's not like somebody hands
you lunch money and you get to pocket because mom

(01:02:40):
gave you five bucks and you ate eight lunch for
two and kept the other three like we've all done
in our life.

Speaker 6 (01:02:46):
This is now, it's real. Are you ten ninety nine
or sure?

Speaker 9 (01:02:51):
At some point we're gonna have to make them a
W two if this continues, and will labor rights and
laws and the rest of it. But right now, if
you made your two hundred two point five million, I
would hope you know that about eight hundred thousand, whatever
bracket you're in, eight yours. So I would hope that
you and maybe that's why they transfer to go get
more to pay their past tax bill. Be wise because

(01:03:14):
you get taxed just like every other human being on
the planet. It gets paid from the federal government. But
you just have to remember, Sean, they're only kids. Yeah,
sure they are, sure they are, uh huh sure that
when when like I said, I don't know, I know,
voting and taxes and merit all that thing. Maybe when
you have a child, you become an adult.

Speaker 6 (01:03:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:03:35):
But to label them as kids, hey, what are you doing?
My kid is driving a brand new Lamborghini going one
hundred and thirty.

Speaker 6 (01:03:46):
Oh kid, huh?

Speaker 9 (01:03:47):
He has two kids and he's an eighteen year old.
Oh kid, you know that they exist too, So they do.
They're all over the place. So the fact that while
they are kids age wise, they're not kids when it
comes to I don't know their mental maturity, but I
can tell you this, Nico ain't a kid. He's a
grown adult. Knows exactly what to do with his money.

(01:04:08):
If he knows how to count to four million, he's
an adult, okay, Sean.

Speaker 6 (01:04:11):
And I know people in their forties who still act
like that.

Speaker 10 (01:04:13):
There.

Speaker 9 (01:04:14):
Oh yeah, not how they act. That's not my point.
The point is when do we make an adult but
to give the excuse, oh, these these poor kids, just
spare me, spare me past that point. And and we've
over coddled him too much. They need it's real life now.
Because most of these guys that we're talking about won't

(01:04:35):
sniff five years on a Sunday. They won't sniff it.
Some will get drafted, some will be some will be good.
There'll be plenty of guys who weren't big nil guys
didn't make a lot. They end up having better careers
than the guys who did. And I know that's why
we'll let him capitalize. Now, well, if you're dumb enough
to pay a guy five million dollars not to win
you a championship in college and just because, then that's
on you. I think those people go to I'm probably right,

(01:04:58):
So I think they're the ones one hundred and two
for tacos. That's what they're paying. There's a way to to,
you know, make sure that these kids gets what's fair.
But there's also a way that they have to understand
that this is that there there are also other things
that come with it, like commitment. If you're going to
be under contract, you can't leave your scholar. We have
to we give them plenty of reward. Now, they have

(01:05:20):
to understand the ramifications. If you run from competition on
a regular basis, or if you run from it, or
the tax is part of it, you run from it.
You can't just you can't just up and leave any
time you want. There's obligations and the rules are set
up for them to just run and do whatever they want.
It's easier as a college kid to make money and
leave any time you want than it is a professional.
We need to start treating them like professionals and grown

(01:05:40):
adults because that's exactly what they are.

Speaker 6 (01:05:42):
And if it's too much for.

Speaker 9 (01:05:43):
You, I suggest you take two weeks off, go to
school for something else, or do something else, get go
to trade school if you can't handle being treated like
a big boy in college athletics.

Speaker 6 (01:05:53):
Because I got news for you. Get it while the.

Speaker 9 (01:05:55):
Getting's good and the right way to do it, because
on Sundays there's a pretty good chance of most of
you by the time time you're thirty, you'll be doing
something else. Well, I mean the pay is good for
that too, it's just it's not this type of pay.
And no, it doesn't come that quickly. Yeah, that's for sure.
Now you got that going all right?

Speaker 6 (01:06:10):
Coming up next?

Speaker 7 (01:06:11):
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go this route, we'll talk about it right here. Sean
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Speaker 6 (01:07:55):
Well, bear these right down on your forehead? I mean,
is that is that what Belligie?

Speaker 7 (01:08:00):
You got one of the teammates who's like, as soon
as like somebody falls for it, don't and then you
know that's that's what you get, right, the grizzly bear.

Speaker 8 (01:08:08):
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Speaker 6 (01:08:09):
Yeah, Hey, level up, level up, and let's keep going.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
Guys.

Speaker 9 (01:08:12):
We got a drill to do, well, coach, we we
we've been going level up on these nuts. Do you
think the Belichick uses that?

Speaker 6 (01:08:19):
Maybe?

Speaker 9 (01:08:20):
Probably now? I mean, you know he's got to stay
Saban or Belichick Saan, Right, yeah, same. You think Belichick
does that? Well, I mean they're both tied to the hips,
so yeah, i'd say probably so yeah. So that's why
that's why I'm using Belichick, because if if Saban does it,
because he's not coaching anymore, I would imagine.

Speaker 7 (01:08:35):
He soft sells it, though I would probably bet that
he's subtle about it, right right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Like you know, I'll be a player.

Speaker 9 (01:08:42):
Go ahead, you're you're Belichick. I'll be the player. Go
ahead and tell that I'll buy it, do you know, Philip? Uh, Philip,
I mean the corner or corner?

Speaker 6 (01:08:51):
No fill up on these nuts. See, that's probably the
way it goes.

Speaker 9 (01:08:55):
I could picture Saban on his boat with his players
like a recruit, you know, are they just got there
and they just like won the national title. So in
spring practice, to take them all out, barbecue at the house, right,
take them all out. I can pick her saving with
the wind blowing in his hair. Nice hair, yeah, oh yeah.
And you know it's amazing how it does this gray
and after all that stress and side and Nick saying
something like, hey, uh, do you guys prefer a speedboat.

Speaker 6 (01:09:19):
Or a motor boat? And somebody's saying motor boat motor
bumps nuts check it on the boat down loser exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:09:28):
I can't you pick that savor laugher or maybe on
this out of college kd Hey, hey Kirk, you know
what was it like on third down?

Speaker 6 (01:09:39):
On that call late in the fourth quarter? What's third down?
You're talking about? Third down? Get three downs on these nuts?

Speaker 9 (01:09:47):
Can't you see it? I'm waiting for a DS nuts joke.
I mean he drops the s bomb. Yeah, So what
would happen if like Reese teed him up, No, I'd
be McAfee. McAfee would see him up inact. You'll have
his hand on his shoulder, turn and says Nick, Hey, coach,
you know I think you need to hit him with
the joke. And that's all of a sudden, Nick turns
like to well Le saying, what you know, he gets

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a coach on like Caleb de Bor's on there was, Hey,
how are those championships going without me?

Speaker 6 (01:10:16):
Well, coach, we don't have an Yeah, why does you champion?
He's nuts? Now what would college game day? Do you
have to cry? Laughing?

Speaker 7 (01:10:22):
Yeah, I mean you'd have Desmond and everybody almost falling
off off his chest.

Speaker 6 (01:10:26):
Herb Street would get up and go hug his dog,
and Saber would look around, like, what.

Speaker 7 (01:10:32):
Will it'd be Reyese Davis looking around saying, I guess
it's just me today.

Speaker 8 (01:10:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:10:35):
How about Reese turning down turning down a big Fox
the Saturday Show on Fox to stay at ESPN.

Speaker 6 (01:10:42):
I think his suits will still be pretty nice.

Speaker 9 (01:10:44):
I actually think that he's probably one of the most
under under publicized talents we have in the industry. Great guy,
great guy, great talent, and he obviously knows no disrespect.
College Game Day is the show no wise move, plus
the report where he's got with those guys. The money
if they were paying him a little more money not
worth it. Reece Davis is a guy you got to keep.

Speaker 7 (01:11:05):
If there is not a game on that network, I
will only watch College Game Day.

Speaker 6 (01:11:10):
That's it. That's that's the only other thing on that
network that I will still watch.

Speaker 9 (01:11:15):
Do you think it's essential? It's incredibly essential. It's essential
to put these nuts on your forehead too.

Speaker 7 (01:11:24):
You know, he should hit with it because I'm assuming
he probably will be a guest or a a you know,
a game picker or somebody like that. Next year is
remember it got pretty awkward between he and Shane Gillis
and Gillis. Gillis candish it out just as well as
he can take it. And I mean last year at
Notre Dame, they got pretty awkward.

Speaker 6 (01:11:42):
Kind of like it.

Speaker 8 (01:11:43):
I like it.

Speaker 6 (01:11:44):
Well, it' supposed to be, right. I mean, I thought
we were telling jokes.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Man.

Speaker 9 (01:11:48):
I thought that's what we're doing exactly. So that's a
good thing, right. I like it when it's a little
bit people are kind of looking ahead on a sort.

Speaker 6 (01:11:56):
Of like I remember from here.

Speaker 7 (01:11:58):
I remember seeing that and I was just like, oh,
this is not gonna go well, right, and you can
kind of see it with Saban and then sure enough
it didn't go well.

Speaker 6 (01:12:07):
You know, it would be.

Speaker 9 (01:12:07):
Classic if don't jokes, layd That's exactly right. Ask comedians.
They know Leroy Corso if he pulled a these nutsjoke
on Saban, Yes, just that because that in nowhere. Could
you imagine the Corso is like, yeah, they're picking games,
and you know, maybe maybe coach Saban says, hey, uh,
lead you do you like uh? Do you like Bama today?

Speaker 6 (01:12:30):
Yeah? Well I like Ohio State, but I prefer you.

Speaker 9 (01:12:33):
Bam down on these nuts imagine maybe if Corso said
it viral quote of the year, if it came out
of my guy Leroy Corso's mouth.

Speaker 6 (01:12:44):
He's done it before.

Speaker 9 (01:12:45):
So I here, Sookes, you get propped in bomb right, Yeah,
Saban uh, But Saban, the fact that he likes these
nuts jokes is classic God his ass right.

Speaker 6 (01:12:57):
I love it.

Speaker 9 (01:12:57):
That's why it's supposed to be. When guy guys that
you don't expect to ever even know what that means
are deliver it. You gotta you gotta give him, You
gotta give him more.

Speaker 6 (01:13:07):
Love than you even do.

Speaker 7 (01:13:08):
It's like the quiet guy in the fight. I've told
you that, don't ever fight the quiet guy.

Speaker 6 (01:13:12):
Yeah, or don't ever fight the guy with cauliflower. Both.
Both those are both life rules to live by.

Speaker 9 (01:13:18):
I mean, if you're saving and the least expected, or
if Belichick and saving are the same, it's just like
you said, you deliver. It's like, did coach just say
that these nutshell that guy who's held in the highest
regard all Yeah, whenever you can do that, you got
me sold you. If I'm a recruit, I'm in you.
D'se nuts joked me on my recruiting ship. I don't
need any ani Ol money.

Speaker 6 (01:13:35):
I'm going Yeah, hey, Nick got a pretty good running back.
Oh you say running back these nuts?

Speaker 9 (01:13:40):
Yeah, exactly, run back these nuts right on top of
your forehead or right on your forehead, right on top
of your head.

Speaker 6 (01:13:46):
Yeah, I got they present it just like that. Oh yeah,
yeah classic.

Speaker 11 (01:13:50):
I like that.

Speaker 6 (01:13:51):
I learned something new. I didn't know. Savan was the
d nuts guy.

Speaker 7 (01:13:53):
It's it's all about the delivery. That's that's what it is.
It's all about the delivery, the the deception. I mean,
you know, it's it's joke. Delivery is like pitching. You know,
you start tipping your pitches, well, then the set's not
gonna go. Well, so yes, the more we know here.
All right, finally let's get into the Texans conversation because
again this happens, it will not be a shock.

Speaker 6 (01:14:13):
We'll talk about it right here. Sean Salisbury Show. This
is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 9 (01:14:24):
Like on like the back of your car, like not
like on the bumper, but like I guess, sticks to
the exterior. Yeah, the exterior like a magnet type of thing.
I think it's adhesive, but yeah, it sticks to your car.
And I mean I almost kind of feel like when
you get Houston rockets on it just got like the
rocket ship logo.

Speaker 6 (01:14:43):
Yeah, the old Dracula looking logo at the guy.

Speaker 7 (01:14:46):
Yeah, yea that it's got that logo and it's you know,
you kind of feel like if you get older that
bumper stickers are a little corny. I mean, I've got
three of them, so the point still holds. But I
do if you see a car down there that's got
d white shrewt.

Speaker 6 (01:15:01):
On it, that's me. I have never had a bumper
sticker in my life. Good for you on a vehicle.
I don't think I've ever had neither, because you guys
aren't wrong to do.

Speaker 9 (01:15:09):
Tell me all the cities you've been, remember those, Remember
those old bumper stickers where somebody would get a boat
like one of those stickers from every town they've ever been,
and it's like you can't even see out of your window. Now, okay,
and you got them all over, but I would imagine
the paint job is not going to be the same.

Speaker 6 (01:15:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:15:23):
I've just never and I've never felt the need to say.
You know, the ones with the stick figures got the
dad like eight kids in the back, or had a dog. Yeah, yeah,
I've just never understood Okay, cool, yeah, baby on board.
Well yeah, now I understand some of that. You want
to be a little because whenever you see that, the
first thing you think of is, Okay, don't don't ride

(01:15:43):
their ass, make sure you're safe and protect You almost
want to protect that car from it. But I just
I mean, I'm a dog, anybody. I've never understood the
bumper sticker thing. Is it enhancing your You tell me
you got three of them? Oh, it's the ultimate virtue
signaling one hundred percent. Like Cliff from UH News Radio
seven forty a boss Toss Cliff right now, it's gonna
get it's gonna get close. So he's a big marathon runner.

(01:16:05):
I almost guarantee he's got the twenty six point two
bumper sticker, you know, like.

Speaker 6 (01:16:09):
I've always liked.

Speaker 9 (01:16:09):
So that does just describe you're a marathon runner. I've
always want twenty six to two. It's a marathon.

Speaker 8 (01:16:15):
Uh huh.

Speaker 6 (01:16:15):
But is there another significance that And it's now simply
basically the.

Speaker 9 (01:16:20):
Ultimate virtue saying like, hey, just so you know you
got a marathon runner in here. That's one hundred percent.

Speaker 6 (01:16:25):
What it is right.

Speaker 9 (01:16:26):
What's worse personalized license plates, self appointed like nicknames on
a personalized lives plate or bumper stickers.

Speaker 7 (01:16:35):
Hmmm, I still gotta go van van plates, vanity plates plates, Yeah,
because I mean more often than not, you have to
remember what it's like seven letters or numbers that you
can go with, so you're kind of limited. And I'm
sure that's say, for example, if you're a Longhorn fan,
horns one two for Colt McCoy, like real original, that's

(01:16:56):
that's awesome.

Speaker 6 (01:16:57):
A buddy of mine I.

Speaker 9 (01:16:58):
Made something, but I I've never been a big personalized
livenspl like guy either.

Speaker 7 (01:17:01):
And a buddy of my brothers played, uh he played
minor league baseball, and I remembered once he gave me
a shirt from the arizon A Fall League, and I
was a big Aaron Rowan fan and I was.

Speaker 6 (01:17:12):
Like a lot of energy for whites.

Speaker 7 (01:17:15):
Yeah Philly, Philly, Yeah Yeah. The guy would run through
the wall to catch the baseball. So I asked him
once I go, I go, hey, you know how is
Rowand and he goes, Probably one of the bigger d
bags I've ever met in my entire life. I don't
know how he fit this on a Vandy plate. But
he had a Corvette and the vanity plate said, who's
your daddy?

Speaker 6 (01:17:34):
No, now I hate Aaron Rowan. I don't hate it.
Why why'd you do that?

Speaker 9 (01:17:39):
You just ruined me because I always I always looked
at him as being one of the dudes. Right, yeah,
there's nothing sped the van And now I understand some
guys do. But uh, you know, you know we got
your Lambeau one. Oh great you it's the first one
of the kay you bought. Thanks, you're the engine Reverend
Valet too great, park it up front.

Speaker 6 (01:18:00):
I'll give you fifty extra bucks. I get it.

Speaker 9 (01:18:03):
That would be a mean but for me, I just now,
if you had like a vanity plate like now the
one Aaron wrote it like I said, Now I don't
like him. Okay, see he sucks, which is wrong just
because the plate. Yeah, but first impressions, somebody had like
a d's nuts on there, I would crack up laughing
because that's not like a self appointed nickname like MVP
seventy three or you know, or like MVP one or

(01:18:26):
whatever it is, or the look at me thing. Right,
we already know you've got the most expensive car a lot.
You're gonna tell us just how much like money signs
on it at whatever it is they do.

Speaker 6 (01:18:35):
But I don't get it. But I also understand some
people are proud and they want to do it. I
get it.

Speaker 9 (01:18:40):
It's okay, I don't do it, but I'm not judging him.
But when somebody does that, who's your daddy? That's the
first guy I want to like, get in the slow
lane and drive forty miles an hour so he can't
get buy it. And now I don't like Aaron Rome
because of you way to screw it up, But I'm good.
I'm gonna go back.

Speaker 6 (01:18:55):
I don't want to bury the lead.

Speaker 9 (01:18:56):
You have three bumper stickers, and I need to know
from the walk when you had the stick her on
the back of this thing to walk to your car
and put them on your car.

Speaker 7 (01:19:05):
And you got to have a cleanow because you know
you want you want to get the adhesive enough to
be able to stick.

Speaker 9 (01:19:10):
Like I understand the front sticker, like where you're you're
you know where your register and your year or you're
like if you're in the gated community and you have
to have it a marking space. You're talking about the
back bumper like besties. I mean, what from the walk
from your house to the peel it off and put
it on? What the hell were you thinking? Well, I

(01:19:31):
mean the other two or two you just devalued your vehicle.
It's on the windows, so I can just easily just
chip it off.

Speaker 5 (01:19:38):
That's what.

Speaker 9 (01:19:38):
That's a pain and ass a lot of work in it.
And I was gonna say, I mean, not not on
the not on the finish. You don't want to have
it on the finish, I'm gonna start putting bumper stickers
on it, like yeah, just like I think you're a
big car flag guy, I guess the car flag. I've
never had a car flag in my life. Okay, I
have never had a car flag in my life. I've
never hung anything. Yeah, I didn't hang assholes when I

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graduated from my rearview mirror okay, or I did you know?
Didn't say? I mean, I just I don't know, man,
I'm pretty basic. I just, you know, get in my
truck and go, yeah, I don't the last thing I want.
Salisbury twelve driving down the street and great. Most would

(01:20:25):
say who, But the three people that didn't know, it's like,
oh cool, you twelve you got twelve kids?

Speaker 6 (01:20:31):
You the twelfth one? Or did you wear number twelve?

Speaker 8 (01:20:34):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:20:35):
Yeah, no, not for me, man. So I'm not mad
at those who do. I just I've never desired putting
who's your daddy on my license plate? Or I almost
feel like, if you're somebody's daddy, you probably they probably know.
You don't need to tell us all driving down the street, right,
it goes unsaid. Yeah, they're like the billionaire who walks
around like Sandler, who walks around in cargo shorts and

(01:20:59):
high tops and a polo shirt. And You're like, this
dude has nothing and he's got more money he could
ever spit it. He's the coolest guy on the planet.
And just that's my style. I mean, thanks, you're the
guy with the lambeau. Not that the lambo matters, but
to tell us it says lambeau on the plate. We
know see you can see it.

Speaker 7 (01:21:15):
The one question, remember I giving you the concept? Do
you have time for one question? Sandler? It'd be what's
the deal with the golf shirts on the basketball floor.
I gotta know what's that's his? I don't know if
it's a shtick. He just doesn't feel it's necessary to
have to change his polo shirt to go play hoops
because that's what he wears. It's what he's wearing around
the office.

Speaker 9 (01:21:33):
So it's like he got big old baggy cargo shirt,
a a pair of high top you know, kicks on,
and a white polo shirt, and all of a sudden
there's a drive by, there's a basketball court.

Speaker 6 (01:21:43):
He's like, why take the time to change. We're getting
a game, dude.

Speaker 9 (01:21:47):
I've told you every time we trained the quarterback role
for longest yard, for what's fus six months preparing for it.
We had to play hoops before we played football two
on two and it was him and I verus whoever,
but he if you if Sandler said were playing basketball lunch,
whoever the two were that day we played and we

(01:22:07):
didn't lose very often because he's got some handle though,
you know what I'm saying. Until Kevin Nash got out there,
he can't stop me. He can only hope to contain me.
I dropped step on his ass and cup talk on
his ass. At that point in time, you couldn't beat
Sandler and I. It was it was in and out
they we didn't lose. I don't want to brag. But
I'm just gonna tell you we didn't lose. Get off
the track guys, to make sure that if we'd lost

(01:22:27):
at a fired Sandler and take an over happy Madison, yeah,
well maybe not. Maybe he probably has more pull than Yeah,
that's a good point by you. So we were going
to lose for that very reason. If we're gonna lose it, Hoops,
you ain't my quarterback coach. So I don't think Sandlor
is a bumper sticker guy. No, I didn't take you
as a bumper sticker guy.

Speaker 6 (01:22:47):
Three of them. Yeah, I mean I've said it. I'm
not proud of being Is.

Speaker 9 (01:22:50):
There a cheesy one? Can I get a cheese? What's
the cheesiest one? Probably the Dwhight shirt one?

Speaker 6 (01:22:56):
Are you gonna ever do it again? Are you? Are
you upper sticker? Done?

Speaker 8 (01:23:01):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:23:01):
Did Dwight shrew one?

Speaker 9 (01:23:02):
Look like a guy who'd put your college you're a
license plate frame your college, which I'm cool with.

Speaker 6 (01:23:07):
I think that's amni.

Speaker 9 (01:23:08):
Yeah, because when I see USC alumni in Texas, I'm like,
I'm like, I do I give the figures?

Speaker 10 (01:23:15):
I do?

Speaker 9 (01:23:16):
But you know, L s U or Joe whatever video,
I know you're a big LSU guy. So on the boat,
I see you as that guy, which is okay? The
frame one thing. I love that proud I'm a proud Trojan.
But I see you with the LSU bumper sticker or
Tiger Country or the Tigers Go Tigers with the g
E A u X.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:23:36):
I think that might be you now that you've opened
up this can of worms. Maybe so, maybe so? But
are the Texans in the business of holding pat We
will talk about it right here.

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Speaker 9 (01:25:53):
And another thing that Sean found out this you're really
disappointed right now. Sometimes you find stuff. I was like, oh,
kind of a down. So like England Dan and john
Ford Coley singing group. We talked about them last week.
They think they were Hello, yeah, it's been a while,
not much how about you?

Speaker 10 (01:26:09):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:26:10):
That cut? Yeah right? And they got a couple more.

Speaker 9 (01:26:13):
And so if I tell you the guy's name is
Dan England, you'd say, okay, that's the first and last
name Dan England and john Ford Coley. So if the
guy England Dan and john Ford Coley is a singing group,
because we get a lot of British bands that are
highly successful, n't you think that they're a British band?
I would think so just by the name England Dan.

(01:26:35):
And I even told you before I knew this, I said, well,
is England Dan like from Florida? Well, no England dance
He'd be Florida Dan, right. Or if you're like Texas,
it'd be Texas Dan and john Ford Coley. They're from Texas.
John Ford Cooley's a Dallas guy, and England dance from
some small town in Texas.

Speaker 6 (01:26:57):
How in the hell did he get the name England Dan? Well,
apparently he liked to fake an English accident. Loved the Beatles.

Speaker 9 (01:27:03):
Yeah, because he was infatuated with the Beatles. He's from
a camey Texas. There you go, Come on, man, it's
Texas Dan and john Ford Coley.

Speaker 8 (01:27:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:27:11):
I mean that probably would have been more apps. I mean,
it's just like I went to high school with a
guy named Stephen Johnson and he one day showed up
and said, hey, guys, now I'm Stephen T.

Speaker 6 (01:27:19):
Johnson.

Speaker 9 (01:27:19):
And I was like, all right, I'll buy What does
the T stand for Texas? Of course, I said, I
am not calling you that Stephen T. Johnson, Stephen Stephen T.

Speaker 6 (01:27:29):
Johnson. But if you're Frank England Dan, I just don't understand. Hey,
we all go through phases in one. Are you from all?
I'm from Texas? Says your name's England Dan? Where'd that
come from? I loved the Beatles?

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:27:42):
All right? Why wouldn't you Dan, Yeah, I've changed ringo. Dan.

Speaker 9 (01:27:46):
My middle name is Zeppelin now okay Zeppelin Sean and
Dan Ford and uh uh john Ford Coley. Hard for
me to become because I liked yeah, led Zeppelin, yeah,
or Led seawan in john Ford Coley well why Sean? Well,
because I like the Beatles Lead Salsbury.

Speaker 6 (01:28:07):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 9 (01:28:08):
Led Yeah, don't get it wrong, because because the light
shines right there you go, and or led Zeppelin.

Speaker 6 (01:28:15):
Yeah. I'm with you, dude, with you. Just you learn
something new every day. Man, for sure.

Speaker 9 (01:28:20):
Two things today that we didn't know you like. Bumper
stickers England. Dan and john Ford Coley are both from Texas,
Great Britain, Proud, I mean, not Ford Coley.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:28:31):
It's even though I think he did give the name
to to Danny Whalen Seals, but still, I mean I
feel disappointed now.

Speaker 6 (01:28:40):
It hurts. It's kind of like who was the who
was the find this out in your forties? Who was
the the war reporter?

Speaker 9 (01:28:46):
Missile John or No, that's scud scud missile, scud missile,
the scud stud.

Speaker 6 (01:28:51):
The scud stud, That's what it was.

Speaker 9 (01:28:53):
Yeah, he got to me. He had women all over him.
He was the scud stud, scuds flying above his head.
He was reporting on him. He was it was came
a star.

Speaker 7 (01:29:00):
That's you know, you're you're sitting at a bar to
your buddies right there, somebody, Hey, is that sound so?

Speaker 6 (01:29:05):
Oh yeah, that's that's the s s that's scud stud. Yeah.
Nobody calls his name. It's oh yeah, he's a scud stud. Yeah.
The ladies love the scud story.

Speaker 9 (01:29:13):
If you could go through life and at some point
in your growth there was a couple of year period
where you were simply known as the scud stud, you
probably had it going on.

Speaker 6 (01:29:24):
Yeah, that's nice. I think he signs his tabs that way,
so he doesn't sign up whatever his name is.

Speaker 9 (01:29:28):
He sounds like you take on the personality of like
an actor, like we think that we think, yeah, that
that's their name in real life.

Speaker 14 (01:29:34):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:29:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:29:35):
I don't know his name right now. I know we
talked about it, but I do know that he was
the scud stud during the war, flying over his head
and he's reporting on him every day.

Speaker 6 (01:29:43):
That's it.

Speaker 10 (01:29:43):
That's it.

Speaker 7 (01:29:44):
Good to be him battling in bag Dad, no doubt
about it. We'll get into the Texans talk here in
a second. But I got a lot of people who
want to weigh in on some of the things we
have talked about. Terrence wants to join us. Terrence, Good morning,
what's up, Buddy?

Speaker 8 (01:29:56):
Good morning, Dan, Good morning, Sean.

Speaker 10 (01:29:58):
How are we doing?

Speaker 6 (01:29:59):
Good Bud? What's on your mind? How you been? I'm
doing great, man. I'm loving the new dynamic Dan and I.
I go way back with Dan.

Speaker 15 (01:30:07):
Dan's a good friend of mine and uh, when I
found out he was gonna be partnering up with you, man,
it just made made the morning show that much better.
You guys are doing a great job. But Dan, I
never took you as a bumper sticker guy.

Speaker 6 (01:30:21):
Kind of a let down.

Speaker 9 (01:30:21):
But you know it really is a buzzkill, isn't it.
Terrence bumper sticker?

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
Dan?

Speaker 6 (01:30:27):
Wow, I'm not Dan for a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:30:31):
This is just it's breaking my heart.

Speaker 10 (01:30:32):
But I'm gonna get you a bumper sticker.

Speaker 15 (01:30:36):
And it's gonna say for all those drivers who like to,
you know, ride up on you, it's gonna say, back
off these nuts.

Speaker 9 (01:30:42):
That's exactly damn right now, Windfield.

Speaker 15 (01:30:46):
But you're gonna get the big one like the Mexicans
get like the Basquez is on the back windfield, get
back on the back windshield.

Speaker 9 (01:30:53):
You know, I got even a better I did, Terrence.
I like the phrase, we're gonna do that. I'm gonna
put one of those uh you know, the the what
do you'll see the sports bar? What you can put
up behind you that flashing a little ticker. Yeah, I'm
gonna put a ticker back there that says back off
these nuts. It's just perpetual. It's a flashing neon side.
I think that's a great idea. I'm actually gonna have

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these nuts board the scrolling buzzy exactly there you go,
it's exactly right.

Speaker 6 (01:31:21):
Or actually, OK, go aheaduddy, I'm sorry. No, I was
just gonna finish off. Let you guys get to sports
because y'all aren't talking enough sports.

Speaker 9 (01:31:31):
You know what, Terrence, It's time for you to get
on these nuts and get to step in. No, I'm kidding. Yeah,
what's on your mind about the strolls?

Speaker 6 (01:31:38):
Brother?

Speaker 15 (01:31:38):
Yeah, I was gonna say the new guy, Isaac, the
third baseman, what's what's.

Speaker 6 (01:31:43):
His name, Isaac? Yeah? Parade. Well, hey, you have a
nice walking nuts. He's sending you off of the pass buddy,
what's happening here? Because you know why?

Speaker 9 (01:31:56):
Because Terrence, for about a six week period, he was like,
he was like, uh, Terrell Davis in his five year
period of Hall of Fame, dude, for six week now,
he's been great always, but his d's nuts gets got
his ass. From perfect week period, he was as dominant
as any heavyweight champion and boxer.

Speaker 6 (01:32:17):
He was Gretzky your back, he was. He was freakingtk was.

Speaker 9 (01:32:21):
It was oh dude, it didn't matter where he pitched it,
it was for a strike and we couldn't touch it.
And so now he comes and goes, yeah, what about
I Some of the time he's really talking to sports,
and I've tried to jump out front. He ain't get
my ass on this d'se Dutch joke. But he's a legend.

Speaker 8 (01:32:35):
Man.

Speaker 15 (01:32:36):
I can't even talk sports with you guys anymore because
you're always on it.

Speaker 6 (01:32:42):
All right, Well, I love you guys. Dan up hearing
you on there, Sean.

Speaker 15 (01:32:46):
Good luck trying to test him on any movies because
they'll probably beat you.

Speaker 6 (01:32:49):
Well. He knows what he knows.

Speaker 9 (01:32:51):
More phrases from me, I know movies, and that's saying
something I mean because I'm always I'm the movie guy,
but I don't study like you how you you remember
I remember certain lines, but you like it's like you
study the lines from each movie so you like you
can say, I remember the time when the guy said this. Yeah,
I can tell you the movie and how it turned
out because ill, I'll go to one hundred movies a year.

Speaker 7 (01:33:13):
Dude, of all of the useless information I have in
my brain. It's one of those that, like, you know,
it's kind of at the end with Saint Peter, I'm
gonna be like, hey, not for nothing, but like, why
couldn't you guys have like maybe given me like financial
information or like you know, market.

Speaker 9 (01:33:29):
A way to be a better gambler, any of those things. Right,
those skills ellude me ter right when it comes to
perfect quotes from a movie, that's I'm gonna leave that
to you now. I can you can talk about the
names of actors like you mentioned to Henny Youngman, you
know last week, or I can go as deep as
we need to go.

Speaker 6 (01:33:48):
But what what Jimmy Stewart.

Speaker 9 (01:33:50):
Said in four of his movies, Well, now now you're
getting a little care or even what what uh Gerard
Butler said to Jamie Lee, to Jamie Lee to Jamie Fox,
and the movie.

Speaker 6 (01:34:00):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (01:34:00):
I can remember part of those, but the movie overall,
I could tell you anything about. But when it comes
to the one line quotes, that's all on you, right, dude,
it's me. You'll go on a binge of you'll, you'll.
You can cite four in a row and four.

Speaker 7 (01:34:12):
Different movies you're gonna say about the mid eighties until now,
I think I've got us covered.

Speaker 6 (01:34:16):
I love it. Quote away, That's that's is right. I
always sure to hear from Sure.

Speaker 7 (01:34:20):
I love him, no doubt about it. Biscuit Brandon, see
you guys. We'll weave the Texans conversation in here again.
Draft coming up on a week from Thursdays, so we'll
have that also. Get back into the Astros conversation here
as we continue to roll along here Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 13 (01:34:36):
Change your Loofah, Sponge monthly Great and right now listen
to more Sean Salisbury.

Speaker 6 (01:34:43):
That's your job, Ben, what you get paid for?

Speaker 13 (01:34:45):
Pro tip from Houston's official Listen while scrubbing your butto
Mornings Sports show.

Speaker 6 (01:34:54):
Biscuit's been waiting the longest biscuit, what's going on?

Speaker 8 (01:34:58):
Hey, what's happening to my brothers? And then you know,
I always sarn. I always wanted to talk to somebody
that had a bunch of bumper stickers and stuff.

Speaker 9 (01:35:05):
Man, I just never here you go, right here, you
got a question for Dan about bumper stickers. The fire away,
you're the man.

Speaker 8 (01:35:18):
Try to tell you another one shot, another one? Shine
is the signs in the yard, the political signs. The
election was six months ago. Man, you don't think you
want to take it down.

Speaker 6 (01:35:30):
But even then, I got to come clean. I gotta
come clean, biscuit.

Speaker 9 (01:35:35):
I've never had an election, no matter how how staunch
a supporter or somebody I am, I've never had an
elect flag. I'll put a flag up in my house,
right you know, and America, I'll I'm all good with that.
Or somebody wants to hang the text flag, that's flag,
that's good. I've never had a political sign placed in
my yard or had one in my life. And I've

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never understood, you know, somebody will come and do your
like your your yard, or they'll they'll put the seed
on your yard and then they'll stick their thing in
your ground, and people like leave it there for three months.

Speaker 6 (01:36:06):
I paid you.

Speaker 9 (01:36:07):
I paid you the fee to come and do my launch,
So you got yours, I got mine. Why am I
are you giving me free work? Why am I leaving
a sign up for four more months that you seated
my yard?

Speaker 14 (01:36:20):
You know?

Speaker 6 (01:36:21):
No sign?

Speaker 8 (01:36:22):
I know?

Speaker 9 (01:36:23):
And my favorite is the one's got like forty seven
signs in there, and you're right, Hey, it's three months
past the election. He's not winning this time around. Pull
the sign out of your yard. So yeah, I'm with you.
Bet signs and bumper stickers. Dan's got half of the covered.

Speaker 6 (01:36:36):
I was getting no signs, but at least the bumper
stickers part, I've got us.

Speaker 8 (01:36:40):
So somebody that person the personal license plate, sean, I
could get with that, I.

Speaker 6 (01:36:46):
Mean exactly, exactly.

Speaker 8 (01:36:49):
Yeah, you know, especially if it's you know, like you say,
kind of adds a little flavor to the ride or
whatever you got to red license plate or something like that, or.

Speaker 9 (01:36:58):
Yeah, I don't have a problem. I don't have a
problem with that. And funny ones that like, and sometimes
the problem is some of them are funny. You got
to figure it out while you're driving, and you're like, dude,
pay attention to the road. It's a clever license plate.
I need that, Like uh, I thought about, you know,
on my motorcycle, my Harley. I thought, well, if I
was ever going to do it, i'd put some like
because Harley, they call them hogs right like hog tide.

Speaker 6 (01:37:20):
But it's taken.

Speaker 9 (01:37:21):
No, I'm hog tiede And you know some of the
stupid ass stuff we talk about. It kind of fits
to the personality, right, but they still don't have one
on there. But yeah, I'm with you, biscuit. I can
see it if it's clever. You know, I don't need to.

Speaker 4 (01:37:32):
Tell you that I was the.

Speaker 10 (01:37:34):
League.

Speaker 6 (01:37:35):
Right, Well, there you go, There you go. I like it,
There you go. So it just appears. But if you
need both.

Speaker 9 (01:37:41):
I mean, Dan's going to go buy four more bumper
sixers day. He just bought himself a new two hundred
thousand dollars SUV and he's gonna plan them all over
his new trust.

Speaker 6 (01:37:49):
I can't say, I mean the car SUV. I could
add the car in one for for for good measure. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:37:54):
I can't wait last the people to because I go
to a lot of doors and stuff and the people
that had about guns, you know, Okay, so you just
let me know you got a gun, so I'm gonna
try to beat you to the punch now, you know
what I mean. People have guns that I got to
you know, Smith and Wesson protect my house or what.
I'm okay, man, really okay.

Speaker 6 (01:38:15):
Geeze, you see a lot of that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
Man.

Speaker 8 (01:38:17):
Yeah, I'm the Texas I guess.

Speaker 6 (01:38:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:38:19):
I just know going in and somebody may have it.
You don't need to tell me anything. I just you
don't need to tell me.

Speaker 6 (01:38:24):
If you have one.

Speaker 9 (01:38:25):
Great, you're not gonna have to use it on me
because I ain't here to take anything from you. So
you're good. Yeah, I'm with you, man. People sometimes people
give me give me animals all day every day. People
are wacko. Man, you ain't lying on the Texas thing.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:38:40):
I just like to say, kodle some nephew, the old
Petrie man and got him a little contract and you know,
h I haven't seen his dad. Yeah, but uh we
probably probably gonna I'm saying, next round is on him now,
damn right.

Speaker 6 (01:38:53):
That's three or four rounds, maybe five are on him
and it may be in the same night.

Speaker 9 (01:38:57):
Biscuit. I think that's a great signing. I think it's
the young secondary in the NFL. When you talk about
the whole group, I do I mean that they're they're
they're they're KG veteran of the four, I'm not talking
about somebody who's been with Jimmy and I'm just talking
about from Bullock and Petrie and Stingley and Lasseter. You
you got four cats that haven't been in the league

(01:39:17):
three years, but that's the max. It's amazing, right, three
years too. You want going a couple of them going
on their second year. Uh, and then the KG veterans,
you know, Stingley and Petrie, they're they're they're new in
the league and both got paid. So best young secondary,
that's exactly right, That's exactly right. Who's got who's got

(01:39:39):
some really good experience in the league.

Speaker 8 (01:39:42):
Right, So you'd like to say it's gonna be interested
to who they draft. But I think, uh, Petrie man
is a good kid.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
Man.

Speaker 8 (01:39:49):
I think he couldn't go. You know, I think what
he's doing.

Speaker 9 (01:39:53):
Over there, there's no doubt. Just stay if he stays healthy,
this kid's got a great future at him. He's he's
a monster on the field, no doubt. Go just get
great stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:40:01):
Brother.

Speaker 9 (01:40:02):
I appreciate you man, grab yourself a bumper sticker. There
you go, or three of them, let's go.

Speaker 6 (01:40:12):
See you buddy.

Speaker 7 (01:40:13):
Yeah, I mean, you know it just with Petrie the secondary,
I mean, you know, it's one of those you kind
of forget that, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:40:20):
CJ.

Speaker 7 (01:40:21):
Gardner, Johnson is part of this thing. I mean, it's
not hard to see what the Texans want to try
to build. And again, I mean we saw it in
the Super Bowl. You'd like to be able to get
that part of it even more shirt up upfront because
with the secondary, you give those guys more time to cover.

Speaker 6 (01:40:36):
It could be fun. I'm telling you too.

Speaker 9 (01:40:38):
They've got a really good mix of a lot of
youth and enthusiasm on the back end, well all over
the place on defense, but on the back end, and
they've got a couple veterans that can that have been
in big moments, that can help walk you through that
and calm you in moments that you're gonna need it,
and they do so, like I don't like having people
do where everybody's long in the tooth, and I don't

(01:40:59):
like having and you know, four dudes that are three
rookies and a second year guy because somehow, some way
they're gonna be out of position just because they're overly
aggressive and still learning. I like this mix of guys
who are doing a little bit of everything, and then
you add veterans to it. The defense will be a
top five defense in the league this year if they're healthy.

Speaker 7 (01:41:17):
Well, there's another part of this team that people really
want to try to shore up, and if the projections
out there are correct, I think they might just get
their wish.

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Speaker 7 (01:43:05):
The Sean Salisbury Show continues as a guy that I've
seen a lot of people go with, is it Josh Simmons?

Speaker 6 (01:43:14):
Is that his name? Believe it is? But anyway, that's
a receiver too from Ohio State.

Speaker 9 (01:43:19):
Is somebody they think that they could possibly Yeah, yeah,
possible in a similar, similar area if one's gone and
the others there. So those are the two positions. It
feels like ATARA, I mean at least targeting or at
least thought process on.

Speaker 7 (01:43:31):
I agree, and especially too, I mean where they are
there at the end of the first round. I mean
you're basically on that borderline of is this guy a
first round or is he a second rounder? If we
miss him here, do we feel like we could move
up next round and be able to get him, or
even trade back and we get double for what we
want at a cheaper price. All of those things as
a possibility. But Mike Renner, who used to be with

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Pro Football Talk, does a great job, but with CBS
Sports now he goes Tyler Booker interior off offensive lineman. Now, again,
there is a couple of categories that I usually believe
I met with a Nick Casserio draft, one of them
major college program, a guy that's played in major games,

(01:44:12):
and a guy that might have been a team leader
there all of those different things, but an immediate impact player.

Speaker 6 (01:44:19):
That they feel like they could go with.

Speaker 7 (01:44:20):
And Renter rights this would be a dream scenario for
the Texans offensive line that cannot afford to take on
a multi year project. Booker is day one ready, and
I mean you look at the tackle spots right now,
it does seem like that they are taken up by
Cam Robinson and also by Titus Howard, and the interior spots,

(01:44:44):
I think it's going to be Fisher, don't you at
the right tackle spot? So then yeah, okay, inside, yeah
and see or either find listen. Finding tackles is great,
and you got to have them, but sewing up the
interior is important, man, especially for a guy who's a
pocket guy first, escape guy second. And you have to

(01:45:08):
absolutely keep people off those guys' legs, those types of
quarterbacks and that here they've got to sew up the interior.

Speaker 6 (01:45:14):
So I don't know. I mean, to me, are you
going to try to move Howard inside and just see
if that's a natural position. I mean, you had him
at the left or left guard spots and it worked out.
That's exactly right.

Speaker 9 (01:45:23):
So my gut is the young guy on the outside
and Robinson on the outside and sew up the inside.
And I believe they at least you start with Titus
Howard as a guard.

Speaker 6 (01:45:33):
That's my opinion.

Speaker 7 (01:45:34):
And I mean, and the you know, the thing that
the Texans want to actually have is last year you
didn't have options. I mean, it finally got to a
point once you realized a Kenyan Green he ain't it
Kendrick Green Well, I mean you maybe hope that you
can find another incarnation of George pant who rejuvenated his
career and was able to move on. But the interior

(01:45:56):
is what got this team beat last year, and especially
at the right guard spot. And funny enough, Shack Mason's
not here anymore.

Speaker 9 (01:46:02):
Yeah, post snap, that's what they got beat. I mean,
it was a problem and they're gonna have to sew
it up. And it's not just in pass protection. It's
being able to move people at the line of scrimmage
in a run game as well, and it seems over
the last year is one they've done kind of well.
Stroud's rookie are protecting the passer. They didn't run the
ball very well last year, and a lot of it
has to do with mixing's you know, physicality that brings

(01:46:25):
up people's level of play. Physically. They got a little
bit better because of him. He helped, but there's still
another level they got to get to and create a
new line of scrimmage on that side of the ball,
meaning push it into their area. But pass protection and
recognition of who the dangerous guy, where the conflict is
you know how to get them, who to get him
and how to get him. Get Joe even more involved.

(01:46:47):
In the past game out of the backfield. A lot
of things go in and teams that aren't physical, and
teams that don't dominate the line of scrimmage usually don't
stand with a trophy in February, let alone deep through January.

Speaker 6 (01:47:01):
It's a must.

Speaker 7 (01:47:02):
Well, I mean it's also too I mean, you saw
it last year. It was clear as day Joe Mixon runs,
this team wins. Joe Mixon doesn't run well. Now you're
starting to enter into an element of the equation that
I don't think you want to talk.

Speaker 9 (01:47:14):
And there's very few teams that can consistently win without
at least the threat of the run. I mean, look
how it affected the forty nine ers without McCaffrey a
lot of the year, even though they had some success
running it with a couple backup running backs.

Speaker 6 (01:47:25):
It's not the same.

Speaker 9 (01:47:26):
Matter of fact, a guy like McCaffrey's impact is so
big that even look what Derrick Henry did, and he
ran it a lot, but look what Dereck Henry did
for even Lamar Jackson to elevate that play. The thread
of it changes game plans. The fact that you got
to tee up and know that Joe Mixons in the lineup,
even if he touches it ten times. The threat of
it changes your whole week as a game planner. When

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you game plan against the Texans, they'll always tell you
defensive coordinators got to stop the run first. But in truth,
when you play the Kansas City Chiefs, you got to
stop the short passing game. You got to stop mahomes right,
and then if they do that, then Pacheco like I
should have stopped the run game. If you're a dual threat,
meaning you can throw it and run it, different story.
But most defensive coordinators going and saying got to stop
the run. So they work, work, work, And then when

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you add a McCaffrey or a Mixing or a Barkley,
Look what Barkley did for Philly. Look what Derreck Henry
did for Baltimore. Look what Joe Mixon did here, Look
what Cook did for Buffalo. All around the league there
was a rejuvenation the running back position, as far as
the respect and the lack and not to discount them

(01:48:30):
and devalue them. They're important and I think we all
know that, and it shows you can get by some games.
But the consistency of domination teams are built when you
can run the football. There's an element of your line
that feels like you're physical. All linemen want to run
a ball because when they dominate in a run game,
it's like a body blow, body blow, body blow. When
you dominate in pass protection, it's like a stick and

(01:48:50):
move finet, it feels a little more finesse. And if
you're a team that spends the time in a two
point stance the whole season, and you can't run the football.
Eventually you're going to get caught and gonna get found.
There's two areas this team that's keeping it from taking
the next stand out that your one dimensional team. This
team's not, but the offensive line at times made them
one dimensional. They're not supposed to be. The head coach
does not want them to be. The head coach wants

(01:49:12):
them to be able to, Hey, coach, we need a
yard right here. All right, we'll move them off the
ball and get the.

Speaker 6 (01:49:17):
Yard they want it. Then they you know, you'd like
to throw it like twenty eight times.

Speaker 9 (01:49:23):
And run it thirty three times gives you about fifty
If you get to sixty plus plays, you'd like to
throw it thirty times, run it thirty three, thirty four
to thirty five times. That that's a formula because you're
having success in attempts. As I've told you a million times,
attempts in the run game are more important than the
yards are just for whatever we mean. People say, well,
it's always natural when you're winning. I'm talking about down two,

(01:49:46):
down down, a touchdown, down ten up ten. Running the
football on attempts is the is the barometer. But they
want you don't want to be run it twelve times
and throw it forty seven times weekly.

Speaker 6 (01:49:57):
You'll get by because you got good quarterback. But remember,
but remember CJ. He took a step back last year.

Speaker 9 (01:50:03):
He took a little step back from me on the
simple stuff. He miss throws that he didn't miss the
year before. There were and maybe that was the collateral
damage of taking hits, and so the ball came out
premature this year. At times, he made some phenomenal throw
So the guy's a great player. But I think when
you hear people say that, it's because he made this
simple the hard throw looked pretty easy, and he made

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the easy though look easy as a rookie last year,
the simple throw at times like a deep over route
that he hit the year before just out of the
outstretched arms right, So there was a little bit they
were a little off, and that the collateral damage of
taking shots to the mouth on a regular basis can
force that. He's got to compartmentalize and every single play's
got to be a trust play. Even though it's hard

(01:50:45):
to do to say, Okay, they didn't protect me on
first down, I can't let it affect third down and
eight I still got to drop back assume they're going
to take to protect me, and if something breaks down,
I'll do my thing. But you've got to stay in
the routine because what happens with quarterbacks. You get hit
too many times early in the season, early in a
game where you don't trust the guys up front, you'll
start to bail early and run into trouble. Or you'll

(01:51:07):
start to I like timing and getting the ball out
on time, but you will prematurely get the ball out
because that built in time clock speeds up in your mind,
and then you'll go back and look at tapes say
I didn't need to do it all that play. That's
why compartmentalizing play by play is what you gotta do,
but hard to do because the collateral damage of previous
hits initially makes you think I got to set up quicker.

(01:51:28):
It becomes a desperate situation. You gotta stay away from that.

Speaker 7 (01:51:31):
Life's not fun in third and eleven and he found
himself in situations like that quite a bit last year.
So I don't know how much of a magician you
think the guy is in this league. Well, magic only
gets you so far, and we found that out last
year with CJ.

Speaker 6 (01:51:44):
Stroud.

Speaker 7 (01:51:45):
All Right, coming up next. Want to get back into
the astros conversation. Brandon, I see you right there. We'll
get you involved. But something I saw last night that
I actually did like, we'll discuss it right here. Sean
Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (01:51:58):
This Sean Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 7 (01:52:03):
Talking to Astros right now, Brandon, Good morning, Brandon, what's
going on?

Speaker 16 (01:52:08):
Good morning?

Speaker 14 (01:52:08):
Sorry I missed the call yesterday.

Speaker 6 (01:52:11):
Oh you're good, buddy.

Speaker 16 (01:52:16):
Before I talked about the teams of the Astros.

Speaker 14 (01:52:21):
Do you like bumper stickers?

Speaker 6 (01:52:23):
Yes, Brandon, I like bumper stickers.

Speaker 14 (01:52:29):
You got you guys started on it.

Speaker 6 (01:52:31):
Yeah, yeah, no, I've got a few of them. We have.

Speaker 14 (01:52:39):
We have a easy tag.

Speaker 6 (01:52:41):
Okay, there you go. Yeah, some people like them, some
people don't.

Speaker 14 (01:52:45):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:52:46):
Yeah, I mean I could actually stand again an easy
tag and make the drive a lot easier for sure,
No pun intend Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:52:53):
Yeah. Are you going to the audio next year?

Speaker 7 (01:52:56):
I mean maybe, Well, we'll see. I mean, you know,
it's just kind of tough to get there this year,
going to work the rodeo? Are you going next year?

Speaker 2 (01:53:05):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:53:05):
Next year? Have you haven't made you have made plans?
I have not made plans for March next now, No, no,
you haven't jumped out that far from now. I already
got my tickets next year's rodeo. Oh really, yeah, you
already have the line up and everything.

Speaker 6 (01:53:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:53:19):
I don't have the full lineup, but I uh, I
already got mine. Okay, plan ahead of time.

Speaker 14 (01:53:24):
Dan, Oh well you are going, Sean?

Speaker 6 (01:53:27):
Oh hell yeah, I'm going next year? Are you talking
about to the Rodeo?

Speaker 14 (01:53:31):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:53:31):
Yeah, I love the Rodeo.

Speaker 14 (01:53:32):
I'll be I'll be there, I.

Speaker 6 (01:53:34):
Know you will.

Speaker 9 (01:53:35):
I really don't have my tickets yet, but I have
pretty good idea that i'll have them.

Speaker 6 (01:53:38):
You know what I'm saying. I'll be there a couple
of night out in front of it.

Speaker 16 (01:53:41):
Hey, Sean, there is if you want to get into
the fairground so you can do the oranget Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:53:52):
Yeah, that'd be good. Brandon's got the connects.

Speaker 9 (01:53:55):
Yeah, I would imagine that Brandon is a place to
go to get good tickets. Now, I'll keep that in mind.

Speaker 6 (01:53:59):
For next here.

Speaker 16 (01:54:00):
Or I know the the app on your Do you
have an app on your phone?

Speaker 9 (01:54:05):
No, but I'll I'll ease already. Yeah, now that I
know that there is that app, I'll go. I'll go
download it and go from there. I appreciate that.

Speaker 14 (01:54:13):
Yep, Astro do need toing, and we do need to
score first.

Speaker 7 (01:54:18):
Yes, good, yes, that would that would absolutely help. I mean,
you get out to an early lead, it's it. It
definitely makes life a lot easier. That's that's for sure.

Speaker 10 (01:54:27):
Brandon.

Speaker 14 (01:54:30):
Last night, no.

Speaker 7 (01:54:33):
No, no, they fell way behind, and well at that
time it was just way too late. But hopefully we'll
take you up on tonight.

Speaker 6 (01:54:40):
Brandon.

Speaker 14 (01:54:41):
Yep, all right, you guys have a good day, you.

Speaker 6 (01:54:44):
Too, buddy, appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (01:54:47):
Something that I did see in last night's scheme that
I know there's a lot of people out there who
whenever a bat is thrown, a helmet has thrown any
of those things in frustration, they say, oh man, you can't.
You can't let that emotion boil over right there. But
Christian Walker, I think we can probably agree, is a
pretty mild mannered guy, and he's talked about it already
that the slow start of the season has kind of

(01:55:09):
worn on him a little bit. I mean, he's the
new guy here. You want to set a good first impression.
You want people to, you know, believe that, hey, this
signing was valid.

Speaker 14 (01:55:17):
It was.

Speaker 7 (01:55:17):
It was a good move made, and that's not been
the case, but it was I think his third at
bat last night. He pops it up, I think just
behind second base and Chandler Rome had pointed this out
and I saw it immediately helmet off and it's one
of those doesn't throw it, but just did, like kind
of like the you know, hands on the bill and
just slams it down on the ground in frustration and

(01:55:38):
like annoyance of damn it, man, just hit the baseball.

Speaker 6 (01:55:42):
I don't have a problem with that.

Speaker 9 (01:55:44):
I when I hear people on the outside, I don't
know if people do have a problem with him doing it.
I'd rather have to back a guy off than I
have to tell a guy I need more enthusiasm HM
as a coach or as a guy who's coached him
or played it. I'm a self starter and I know
how to do the lonely work and being around the
players all think different. Give me the guy who I

(01:56:07):
got to grab by the back of the jersey and say, dude,
back off or we're gonna be okay, instead of the
guy that I got to put a foot in his
rear in and say are you are you an extrinsic guy?
Or an intrinsic guy who are you and and and
and push him in there say okay, go compete. Well,
I got to go compete harder, Go compete more, go
study more. That that's a problem. When I got to

(01:56:29):
look at the guy and say, listen, dude, take a
day off from football. Go swim in the pool with
your buddies. Go if you're if you're a college guy,
and if I go, go have fun, go play golf,
go do something. Get rid of football for a day,
leave it alone or for a week, whatever, if it's
off season or season.

Speaker 6 (01:56:45):
I don't have a problem.

Speaker 9 (01:56:45):
Matter of fact, I wore my emotion on my sleeves
and some what's what's odd in my career? Like when
I was playing basketball, I was extremely and it was
my best sport in baseball with my two best I
didn't play football, so I got to high school. When
I played quarterback in high school. In college, I was
not a big, raw, raw guy, and I didn't let

(01:57:08):
my emotions jump on me too much, like celebrate too hard,
because I knew that there was always another series and
you just can't get out of yourself because five hundred
yards in three quarters or throw for four fifty and
then throw a pick with two minutes to go. Nobody
gives a ratsass about the four fifty, so you're always
on edge, meaning alert. Right, You're like that dog that
you let out at night that goes out to the

(01:57:28):
property and has got to it. Sits there, like my
big one hundred pounder. He kind of scours around before
anybody else walks out there to make sure the other
two dogs don't have to deal with it. And that's
kind of what you are when you're like quarterback. Everybody
else is fired up a pump, but I got to
set in. It's okay to get enthusiastic ot for play,
but you got to get over a celebration just as
quick as you get over a pick. And so with baseball,

(01:57:50):
and they were my best sports, but I was far
more football.

Speaker 6 (01:57:54):
I wasn't.

Speaker 9 (01:57:55):
I didn't wasn't spiking footballs or anything. I was so
mentally locked in right in my position. You could play
basketball a little more, you know, smooth and silky, but
also play with physicality and nasty. You get after it,
and it helped my game. So I played with a
linebacker mentality in basketball and in football it was just

(01:58:16):
a quarterback got to stay calm, do that. And in baseball,
my emotion like I'm just using his did I'm that
you pop up three times in a row, go oh
for twelve or oh for ten or whatever it is
you're going in high school, that's an OH for three game,
because you rarely go for twelve as a high school player,
right right right, Or you're slamming things down, or you're
slamming your batter, your helmet. That was me pissed because

(01:58:41):
I wore it on my sleeve, or not making the
right pitch that I want to when you walk in
the dug out and slam your glove again, I mean
who doesn't do that?

Speaker 6 (01:58:47):
I mean some don't.

Speaker 9 (01:58:48):
I have no problem with it when we say, well
you got to keep no, you don't have to. You
don't have to always keep your emotions in check. Now,
when it comes to a guy hitting you laid on
the football field and you hit him the next time,
you get a personal foul that costs our team.

Speaker 6 (01:58:58):
Different story.

Speaker 9 (01:59:00):
But if Christian Walker didn't care and sometimes didn't out,
that was his game that every single time he's breaking
bats over his knee, and then it's a different story.

Speaker 6 (01:59:09):
But I kind of like the guy that I got
to be he's pissed.

Speaker 9 (01:59:12):
Good, Well, how's it gonna as long as it's not
one of those elasting effects that the pist is ruining
everything out, that you've disrupted a clubhouse.

Speaker 6 (01:59:20):
So it's okay.

Speaker 9 (01:59:21):
Matter of fact, I think a lot of guys appreciate
it because there's this sense of he doesn't care what
you think. This dude cares. So I've never had a
problem with it. Now, I don't need the guy on
the mound whining at every pitch that the umpire doesn't call.
That's a different type of wearing it on your sleeve.
That's like, that's just pussified, right. That part I don't like.
I'm not you've talk about. I'm talking about anywhere little

(01:59:43):
League all the way up to professional baseball. But I
don't mind the guy that after he pops up for
the fourth time in two games and struck out three
times before decides that he's going to snap the bat
on his knee, get another one. Oh that's okay, Just
don't hurt your knee because then you're no good to
me for six weeks out or the guy and then
but the guy who goes in and is beating up
the clubhouse after every time he strikes a different ballgame. Right,

(02:00:05):
there's the difference between poise and under pressure and dealing
with it and going back the next time. Then there's
a different one of the guy whars on a sleeve
and makes everybody around them miserable. Like on the golf course,
if you're struggling and the three other guys, he went
out there to have a beer and have fun, and
you've just made it miserable on him because you're a
twenty handicap and you think you should be shooting a seventy. Right,
But in base I don't have a problem with Christian
Walker when people say, oh, you got to keep it

(02:00:26):
under curs, Well, no, and actually you don't. Certain guy's
feet off it. If Machado didn't have his personality on
the baseball diamond, he wouldn't be the same. He would
be like, you're stripping him of that whatever that swagger is. Right,
we know those guys who are played with emotion in sports.
I don't want to take that away from I can
get them to back off when necessary, But give me
the guy who doesn't know how to ramp it up

(02:00:47):
and doesn't get pissed or doesn't know how to take
it to another level.

Speaker 6 (02:00:50):
And I got to pick that. I got to coach
him on that. That's a problem. Christian Walker.

Speaker 9 (02:00:55):
He'll he'll come around and I understand it's frustration and
it's tough right now, but he will also go on
one of those where everything he sees looks like a softball.

Speaker 7 (02:01:03):
And it's also too I mean, it's picking and choosing
your spots like he just mentioned. I mean, because yeah,
you don't want to be that guy, because then it
soon enough becomes all right, this guy's just unhinged.

Speaker 6 (02:01:12):
I mean, and I can't win with big difference.

Speaker 9 (02:01:15):
But it's you show me you care, like That's That's
what I think it kind of comes at, is when
you're struggling and the team struggling, Like it's nice to
see that every once in a while, because it's, hey,
all right, clearly it's bothering you.

Speaker 6 (02:01:27):
Yeah. So there's a difference in the me and me.

Speaker 9 (02:01:31):
I I struggling because my stats are bad, right as
opposed to the me me I I I'm struggling because
I'm putting my friggin team in a bind. Yeah, the
guy who feels like he's putting his team in a
bind that's frustrated after two or three or four or
six games. I can live with him because I'm riding
with him because everybody in that dugout is gonna go
through it.

Speaker 6 (02:01:51):
How you handle it different. Then there's the guy who
may never be bothered. You could.

Speaker 9 (02:01:55):
I mean I rarely saw Kyle Tucker going through when
he went through a bad time, slamming helmets or something.
But I would imagine the inner side that his inner battle.
Guys handle it different. But both a right, depending on
who the personality is. It's the guy who disrupts everybody
else because of his selfishness, whether it's getting in trouble
on a football field, personal foul, whether it's every time
you come to the dugout you're bitching and complaints, Like, dude,

(02:02:17):
just just keep playing. But once in a while you
snap a bat, slam your head to the ground. I
got no problem as long as when you go back
out to first base groundball, your way that you're at
bat doesn't affect it, you know, and I don't do
your pro That's exactly right. And remember this, just because
you get paid doesn't make you a pro plenty of
guys get paid that aren't pros. There's a difference. I

(02:02:38):
think we've got Christian Walker. I think he'll establish himself
as a voice here as well, even though it's not allowed.
I don't think that guy's a chatterbox. But I think
presence matters, and I think he's got some presence. And
when leaders are leading, even when they're not playing, well,
that's when you know that's a different cat.

Speaker 17 (02:02:56):
And I like that.

Speaker 6 (02:02:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:02:57):
Well, speaking of pros, pros, Chris, he's one of them.
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Dan matthewscuse Jesus. This is the Sewan Salisbury Show. Courtesy
of car Back Bruince, our good buddy Chris Gordy. Gordy
appreciate it as always. Not a bumper sticker guy No, No,
I am emblem guy. I liked that they were giving
the rockets emblems. They're still got an hour to get

(02:05:13):
over there.

Speaker 14 (02:05:13):
I know.

Speaker 9 (02:05:14):
Yeah, those you can get on and off. And you
know people that slap stuff on the side. I get
that completely, especially if they're go with the silver rinds
in with the logos on your car. That's exactly that's
exactly right, bo Gordy, let's not bury the lead. What
exactly did you say to Dan and me when you
walked in? Normally are our commercial conversations or they're they're

(02:05:35):
not privy too, but go ahead.

Speaker 10 (02:05:36):
I said, I like bumper stickers too when I was
in high school.

Speaker 9 (02:05:38):
And then you what you say, if you grew I
grew up, shots fired, It's okay. I can deal with
Look and you are standing firm Dan, Well, I love it.
I mean on certain things, I have no pride, I
have no scruples.

Speaker 6 (02:05:50):
There you go.

Speaker 9 (02:05:50):
I'll just I'll just go with it and keep on
truck in this, all right, That's what I can do
to the astros.

Speaker 6 (02:05:55):
Gordy. I'm the front office right now, and I say
to you, how do we pay him long term? Meaning
fromber going forward? What's your answer? Oh?

Speaker 10 (02:06:09):
You can't, Well, I mean, he's he is just the
model of I would't know if I'd go as far
as say model of the inconsistency. He's just model of extremes.
Maybe he Yeah, he is just you know, for every
time he's awesome, Man, he hasn't done is it? Like
it just feels like that way throughout his career and
it maybe it's unfair because he has been more good

(02:06:30):
than that, and he logs a lot of innings. Yeah,
normally he eats up a lot of innings. But man,
like it feels like there have been times twenty twenty
two postseason aside, feels like times when it's like we
need this win Frombert, go get it like it's a dud.
Like it just feels that way, and then when you're
least expecting it, he'll go through seven seven innings of
shut out ball, right.

Speaker 8 (02:06:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:06:52):
And so that's what I think because there was very
little talk of discussions going into this, Like, I think
they went into this season saying this is it for
fromber next year twenty twenty six and beyond. Hunter Brown
will sliding into the one, spencerraor Getty was sliding to
the two. We'll see what Ronald blanco is Hayden Wasznski's
only twenty seven, probably got him three four, five really

(02:07:13):
good years left. He could slide up lands mc color
slides back it. So I think they were thinking, see
it can get healthy the whole Christian Hovey right, get
about him. When he's on, he's awesome. So I think
they came into the season kind of expecting.

Speaker 9 (02:07:27):
Unless some change that he that they we both believe now, Dan,
you think that's done. Their decisions done, that he's he's on.
He's a lame duck here, meaning he's going to be
gone regardless. And Gordia feel the same way. I think,
and I said that it almost feels like another show
me year, and this far into his career, it shouldn't
be a show me year. Right, We've you've probably seen
enough body of work for.

Speaker 7 (02:07:45):
Him well, and that's just it. I mean, you know,
he's the ace of the staff. Like what happened last night,
I can't have that happening. I mean, you have a
bad start. Sure it happens every once in a while,
but I mean it's to Gordy's point here, Sean, it's
one of these things where it's like, hey, who are
we getting tonight and you got Josh Miller exactly giving
you the the shoulder shrug emoji.

Speaker 6 (02:08:06):
Right, I don't know, and so we'll see.

Speaker 9 (02:08:08):
It's the level of when he's not good, he's really
it's not good. Yeah, you don't really get a grinded out.
I mean, he'll grind him out, but he may start
off and they'll keep him in for another in tow
and he've given up five runs, or when he's really good,
he's a cy young type of guy. So Gordy's so
with that. If we started today the World Series, I know,

(02:08:29):
the old if question, like if the season started today
or ended today, Yeah, who's your starting pitcher and it's
a one game elimination.

Speaker 10 (02:08:37):
I mean I would feel better with heart Brown on
the mountain for a game one. But that's that's just me.
I mean again, like I think from Berg, he's he's
earned that number one spot when Verlander went you know,
went down and left. He's slid into that number one
spot in the past, and so he's just kind of
the ace by default. But I mean, if we have
to talk about trust level, I don't know if I

(02:08:59):
trust him handing him the ball and a Game one
of them must win series, and.

Speaker 6 (02:09:03):
They will both of you guys. They will.

Speaker 9 (02:09:06):
Have people that want him at the trade deadline because
he's a quality left hander. That may be the guy
that gets you over the you know what I'm saying,
somebody's gonna fall in love with him, and I don't
think you can go through knowing that he's going to
ask as a premium left hander and a starter and
a front line starter. He's not gonna you probably outprice
himself here more than likely even if they wanted him.
So you got to think about regardless of your record,

(02:09:28):
don't you got to think about moving him at the
trade deadline for assets orre You're gonna wait it out.

Speaker 10 (02:09:31):
Again, It's tough because again it's the it's the win
now to worry about now things. If you're leading the
Al West or your two games back of the Rangers
for the aos, you know, moving off from fromber makes
you a worse team in twenty twenty five, right, So
you know, if they still believe, and I believe they
do that this is still a playoff team for twenty
twenty five, I don't think they're gonna do anything to,

(02:09:53):
you know, to sidetrack that, Like they want to go
for it all this year, and you know, when you
get in the postseason baseball, anything could happen, somebody gets
hot or whatever. But uh, that's what I just think. Yeah,
I think they'll hang on to Fromber. I think they'll
go into the offseason and he'll Here's the tough part too,
which I talked about this with Bregman last year when
Bregman got off to such a bad start, I said,

(02:10:13):
maybe this works in their favorite but it's that tough
part of Okay, if he sucks and so the market
will drop. You want to give him that fat neal
because he's Why would you do that? Because he sucks?
So here's the thing with Fromber. I Fromber continues on
his path and as the air ra of four point
five and then five oh one and six, he gets
over six at the end of the year and he stinks.
Do you want to resign that guy? I mean, the

(02:10:34):
market may dry up. Not now, everybody's beating down the
door to come sign that guy, But do you want
to resign that guy if he's not good?

Speaker 6 (02:10:40):
So it's he's he's tough.

Speaker 10 (02:10:46):
He's gonna be one of the biggest arms on the market.
So that's the tough part about it.

Speaker 7 (02:10:50):
And I mean it's also too I mean to your
point though, Gordy, I mean, do you necessarily even want
to just think about this season, because what necessarily is
is the ceiling for this team this year.

Speaker 10 (02:11:01):
I mean, it's still is win this division and getting
to the playoffs and see what happens. I mean, you know,
they've stopped throwing around the world the words world Series,
and I get it because it's you know, it's that
it's hard to get to a World Series, as we've seen.
But I still think they believe this is the playoff
team and when you get in the postseason, anything could happen.
Christian Walker could start crushing bombs. You know, your pitching

(02:11:24):
staff could could throw flames like they did in twenty two.
So I don't know, I mean that to me, is
still the expectations over there. It's just, guys, it's it's
crazy to think we are, what a couple weeks into
the season now and they haven't went back to back
games yet. You know, the thing that the Astors always
did during this great championship run the last decade was
they go on runs. Man, They've won six in a

(02:11:46):
row Man, they've won nine in a row. They're not
having any runs right now, they go, we gotta find
a way to string together some wins here.

Speaker 9 (02:11:52):
Where's your biggest issue in the not not pitching wise,
everyday player, what's the biggest issue for you right now?

Speaker 10 (02:11:58):
Yeah, it's it's the it's the consistent offense. It's the
the goose egg innings when you look up and go
zero zero, zero, like, find a way to manufacture a
damn run and zero is still the ninth inning? Last
night on a three run job, right, Yeah, a guy
gets a leadoff double, but his ass over.

Speaker 6 (02:12:15):
I don't care who the next hitter is, right.

Speaker 10 (02:12:17):
But his ass the third and a sack file, let's
get the run end like I'm sick of putting up Gooza.
This is a great hitter. We gotta we gotta let him,
let him hit. Yeah, and he pops up and would
you get nothing? Find a way to score some damn run?

Speaker 9 (02:12:28):
Yeah, move people over. And Steve Sparks said on Monday,
Gordy about that, don't let me lose my train of thought.
You're talking about all oh no, talking about I would
talk about the thing that bothers him the most. And
it's the inability to hold runners. It's gonna it's gonna
be a problem, a major problem right now.

Speaker 10 (02:12:48):
But look, if if I'm looking up the Scorebourne, I
only got one run, two runs. That okay, that doesn't matter.

Speaker 6 (02:12:53):
It doesn't matter when you got seven post it on you, right.

Speaker 10 (02:12:55):
I'll talk about Sunday. Sunday's game. They had East Pride
said the big three run Homer, but that they had
five singles. East sac Parade's home run was the difference maker.
They weren't gonna win that game if he doesn't crush
that bomb. And so that's where I look around everybody
and go, somebody step up, somebody do something. And look,
it's nice Jeremy Paynon hit the three on Homer with
two outs in the night last night, but you were

(02:13:16):
getting crushed like it didn't. It makes it look closer
than it was. But I mean my mind, that was
an eight nothing lost last night. Your offense did absolutely nothing.
And so that's where they got to dig deep. And
I'll do they starting to slow down a little bit,
but he can't do it all the yord and alparezz
I'm sorry to put the pressure on him, but when
you establish yourself as this star player a couple of

(02:13:39):
years ago and a perennial MVP candidate. I'm sorry the
expectations every year you are on an MVP.

Speaker 9 (02:13:43):
Candidate, yard On, Walker and Yiner all have to hit
the long ball, has to head for all three of
them in the middle of the lineup.

Speaker 7 (02:13:52):
Power absolutely has to well. And you know, we'll get
you out the door on this one. I mean he
kind of brought it up with the holding runners on
not being able to throw guys out. I mean, it
just seems like it's another start to a season, Gordy,
where the little things aren't there. You got a couple
of throwing airs last night, you got Fromber not covering
behind home plate, and then you've got Wilson Contreras of
all people stealing a base on you.

Speaker 6 (02:14:13):
I mean hesitation too. I mean it just as soon as.

Speaker 7 (02:14:16):
I saw it in Chandler Rome at the tweet and
I agreed with them it was you know, oh it
was close, Well it shouldn't have been.

Speaker 6 (02:14:22):
That's a catcher running like. It kind of gets to
a point like do you sure these things up?

Speaker 10 (02:14:26):
Yeah? And you know, I hate to pin it on
a lot a lot of This goes back to Joe Spata,
and baseball is the one sport where the manager, I
think largely doesn't matter as much as the head coach
in the NFL, doesn't matter as much as the NBA
head cut or NBA cub. Look at what he may
Dok has done with this Rockets team. But you know, Joe,

(02:14:47):
Joe told me on Sunday, he said, this hardest decision
is how do I you know, setting this lineup every day,
and how do I balance getting guys reps versus getting
guys rest versus matchups. You know, it could be Myers
just had two days off and I want to get
him in the lineup, but look at the picture we're face,
and this isn't a good matchup for him. And so
now he's got three days off.

Speaker 6 (02:15:07):
You know, some point in time, Gordy and I get that.

Speaker 9 (02:15:10):
But some point in time, don't you just have to
who you feels good like the lineup with that I
know one hundred and forty plus last year, and Joe
did not want to do that this year. He told
us that at the fan fest, right, but don't you
get to a point where, okay, this matchup that the
analytics card says he hits one ninety seven against this guy,
But don't you got to let guys start to play
through matchups and say, listen, maybe this is the time.

(02:15:30):
I'm not I understand the seventh inning of pinch hitter
or one day, but the majority of it for me
is lineup first, matchup second, the consistency of my lineup,
unless the guy is struggling. I at times want to
let somebody play through it. I'm not even just saying
necessarily Jake Myers, but anybody. Oh, he hits two hundred
against this guy in the backup hits two seventy five. Well,

(02:15:52):
at some point in time, the everyday lineup of the
consistency of reps has to shine through over all. Every
time he the guy he's not been good against, we
got to get him out in the second inning.

Speaker 6 (02:16:03):
Or not start him. I don't know, and it's a
it's a tough decision. I guess I'm just a.

Speaker 9 (02:16:07):
Little more I'd rather have them come to the ballpark
not have to look up the lineup card most of
the days than having to every day.

Speaker 10 (02:16:14):
Yeah, I mean, they're just they're they're analytically driven and
they always will be and I mean, if you're if
you're Joe spotted, do you want to be the guy
that you know, the analytics guy goes, hey, don't play
Jake Myers. Say you play Jake Myers. He goes oh
for four to two strikeouts and you see that guy
walking through the hallway after the game. Do you want
to be Hey, shut up, I'm the manager. I know
I know what to do.

Speaker 2 (02:16:33):
You know.

Speaker 10 (02:16:33):
I mean, like it's they're.

Speaker 6 (02:16:34):
Gonna tell you have Jake do today? Oh I told you.

Speaker 10 (02:16:39):
I mean they they do follow that model a lot.
It's again, it's the old thing Dusty used to talk
about too. It's gut versus you know, Matt, what is
the Pampeter say, yeah, so, but it's a balance. But yeah, man,
it's it's it's not just any one guy right now.
It's everything. And I thought maybe Christian Walker hitting that
home run last week, he always maybe he's found it. No,

(02:16:59):
hasn't found it yet. And where he's batting in that lineup,
he's Him and Jordan have to be the two big
producers right now.

Speaker 6 (02:17:06):
It's not a way. They just absolutely have to. There's
you can't be in question, there's no doubt.

Speaker 7 (02:17:10):
It's frustrating for sure. Well you know, Gordy, I mean,
I don't know about you. I feel like a way
to be able to take care of frustration sometimes is
a nice ice cool beverage.

Speaker 10 (02:17:20):
Yeah. Well, hopefully you know, we'll be back at the
ballpark real soon, right after this series against the Cardinals,
and it will be your chance to get your hands
on an ice cool Crawford box from Carbok Brewing. And
want to let you guys know, they just announced this yesterday.
Coming up next Friday at Carbock Brewing out there in
the beer Garden Friday, April twenty fifth, they are teaming
up with the Astros for an official watch party. This

(02:17:41):
will be the Asters taking on the Royals up in
Kansas City. It's a six forty first pitch next Friday,
and here's what they got lined up. They will be
offering five dollars Crawford box, five dollar Crawford pale Ale specials,
a visit from Orbit after shooting Stars, the championship trophies
on display so you can get pictures with the trophies afters.
Vendors give away tons of stuff. Family friendly, friendly, full

(02:18:03):
of good vibes. Bring the family out next Friday at
Carback in the beer Garden Friday, April twenty fifth, there
will be a watch party for Astros Royals and could
we see let's p Colors in that game. We'll see,
we'll see where the timing works out on his rehab
and when he gets gets called back up. But certainly
gonna be a lot of fun out there joining an
ice called Crawford back with our friends out there at

(02:18:24):
Carbock next Friday.

Speaker 6 (02:18:25):
Sounds like a lot of fun. Thank you, Gordy, all right,
thank you, all right.

Speaker 7 (02:18:29):
Speaking of championship trophies, an interesting situation happened yesterday that
has me asking a question.

Speaker 6 (02:18:35):
We'll talk about it here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
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Speaker 6 (02:18:53):
With more Sean Saladsbury Fun Sports Talk seven ninety. So
you can be really good without being Brady? Does that
make sense?

Speaker 8 (02:19:02):
Sure?

Speaker 9 (02:19:02):
You can be a great quarterback without being Brady. So
when I say overrated, doesn't mean you're not good. But
there's some people that are really good and may even
end up in the Hall of Fame that are overrated
Hall of famers.

Speaker 6 (02:19:13):
I think Sting's good. I think the Police is good.

Speaker 9 (02:19:15):
If you're saying, Sean, you got twenty five concerts you
got to go to in your life and they can
all come back now, he's obviously alive, but at their
very best. Whoever, the Police, Led Zeppelin, the Beatles, whatever,
of my twenty five concerts that I'm going to the
Police wouldn't be one of them.

Speaker 6 (02:19:31):
Oh, they'd be a top five for me.

Speaker 9 (02:19:33):
Really, you're talking about a guy who doesn't just like
the Police loves Oh okay, see I like him. I
don't love them, yes, but now give me a top
fifty to seventy five they slide in.

Speaker 7 (02:19:43):
Oh, my top one dead are alive? Easy, because I
think you would still be selling out stadiums. Elvis, Oh,
he's definitely a top five. No, there's no question, Michael.
I've seen jack Michael. I've seen Michael Jackson a concert
at Dodger Stadium was it was epic. So I didn't
get to see led Zeppelin when they were all together,
and you know, and Bonham was there, you know, their

(02:20:07):
drummer before he passed away. I would have loved to
I should have opportunities that I just let go by.
At that point in time, you think you're gonna have
to be able to do it forever, right, So I mean,
at least they're going to be playing forever, and if
they're never going to die, it's led Zeppelin.

Speaker 6 (02:20:19):
But when it comes to Police, I do I like them.

Speaker 9 (02:20:21):
They're a top seventy five, top fifty for me, not
a top five, and definitely not a top ten. Twenty
five bands in concert at their best, I'm not sure
they'd make the twenty five list for me, but I'd
like them.

Speaker 6 (02:20:32):
You love them. I like them. I love a lot
of bands more so much.

Speaker 7 (02:20:35):
That there was a music venue where we used to
live that would have cover bands play there, and there
was one that was called the Police. I think they
were called Roxanne. I think that was their name.

Speaker 9 (02:20:46):
But there are certain songs that I can throw on
my top twenty five yea that they sing. I just
am not I'm not, you know, throwing boxer briefs up
on the stage for the Police, and I think I
like the Police more than I do Sting alone.

Speaker 6 (02:21:00):
What about you?

Speaker 9 (02:21:02):
I love the Police, And now I'm wondering if personal
stories got out there because you know, I can't confirm
nor deny, but I was having fun that night.

Speaker 6 (02:21:10):
Let's just say that. So you threw a box of
reefs up on the side. I said, I can't confirm
nor deny. I will not be pushed on this. I'm
gonna push it.

Speaker 9 (02:21:19):
But just like Bumper, No, I do like them, and
maybe there's probably more people that feel like you do
about it than I do that love them like them,
and i'd love to I would love to see him,
you know, seeing the police in concert. But if you said, Sean,
you only got twenty five of them, pick wisely, they
wouldn't make the top twenty five for me. Maybe just
outside the top, probably top fifty. Obviously they'd be a heavy,

(02:21:44):
a heavy thought process top twenty five.

Speaker 6 (02:21:47):
I don't think they'd make it for me.

Speaker 7 (02:21:48):
See, like i'd like to go see you know, this
is the basic white guy really coming out here. So
three two one love to go see Springsteen?

Speaker 6 (02:21:57):
Well who would?

Speaker 7 (02:21:58):
But I mean it's also the you you know that
your your night is going to be at least four
hours sitting right there in the venue. Because j Moore
had had a comedic bit about Springsteen of You know
why his shows are four hours long because he talks
to you for three half hours.

Speaker 9 (02:22:11):
Of politics and all. Oh yeah, he's gonna talk and
chatter the politics part of it.

Speaker 7 (02:22:15):
I mean, yeah, you know you want to you want
to you know, play you know, tenth Avenue freeze Out
or something. I wrote this song because my dad, I
was a little bit of a rebellious one in school.

Speaker 9 (02:22:24):
He's a storyteller throughout the entire concert. I like I said,
I like his music's awesome. Four hours is a long concert.

Speaker 2 (02:22:32):
Now.

Speaker 7 (02:22:32):
I almost went into Wilf ferrell as Neil Diamond right there, right,
Carl Diamond, you bet your balls it's Neil Diamond. I
was listening to you while I was dangling my manager
over over the edge. Oh my god, he'll be fine.

Speaker 6 (02:22:47):
Love it?

Speaker 9 (02:22:47):
So yeah, I I am. I probably, yeah, you gotta.
I mean, the police is not gonna make it.

Speaker 10 (02:22:57):
For me though.

Speaker 6 (02:22:58):
That's fair. I'll go and you play.

Speaker 9 (02:23:00):
That's that's what you can have now, Like I said,
on a given but if I had to make the decision,
I don't think I could put them in my top now.

Speaker 6 (02:23:06):
If like, if he wants to like start like making
it into like a like you said that.

Speaker 9 (02:23:10):
Springsteen, I'd have to consider, yeah, getting back to him,
but yeah, he'll walk.

Speaker 6 (02:23:15):
You better be prepared to bring a lunch pail because
you're gonna be there. Why I was supposed to go
see the piano man, but COVID had other ideas. Was
it Joel and Elton at the time or just him?
I think he was just Billy if I remember correctly.

Speaker 7 (02:23:28):
And then I was also supposed to get my cousin
set us up with Pearl Jam at Madison Square Garden.

Speaker 10 (02:23:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:23:33):
They don't want to miss that. No, no it didn't.
So I have to catch you on another time. Eddie,
all right, call him Ed? You call him?

Speaker 7 (02:23:42):
I mean he gets a little older up in h Yeah,
you probably have to drop the I E at the end.
And then second D double D.

Speaker 6 (02:23:49):
You know the cartoon?

Speaker 9 (02:23:50):
Was it ed Ed and Eddie? Oh yeah, yeah yeah,
so I call him. Yeah, I want to do a
guy Eddie with a y interesting. There's a vodka out
by that I think, so yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go.
So it all ties together, all right? Touching championship trophies.

Speaker 6 (02:24:06):
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Speaker 7 (02:25:43):
At the White House yesterday and you know a chance
for them to be able to give the President the jersey.

Speaker 6 (02:25:51):
Do all of that.

Speaker 7 (02:25:51):
You got the trophy on full display. Everybody's there, coat
and tie. Yeah, and Vice President jd.

Speaker 6 (02:25:58):
Vance.

Speaker 7 (02:25:58):
Did you see what he did? Fumble Ruski, fumble rouski. Indeed,
Now people were, you know, saying that he dropped the trophy.
He didn't drop the trophy. It was the stand that
the you know, Golden Football or whatever the hell it is. Yeah,
it fell, and I don't know who was up there
with him. They they caught the trophy, so that did

(02:26:20):
not fall, but Vance having a good sense of humor
about it, saying, I didn't want anyone after Ohio State
because he is a proud Buckeye graduate to get the trophy,
so I decided to break it. Now, remember what was it?
I can't remember the recruit at Alabama who I think
ended up going there. But wasn't that their dad accidentally
backed into the crystal, because believe it or not, you

(02:26:41):
still get the Coach's Trophy, the crystal football like that
is still awarded to the national champion. And they accidentally
backed into it and the crystal fell off right shatter
all of that. Not like you can put a bunch
of crazy glue on it to put it back together.
I think Tiffany or whoever it is, has to send
you a new football, probably comes out of your pocket.

Speaker 9 (02:27:01):
How about that, though, I mean, those things happen, but
can you imagine the feeling there? And uh not just Jadvance,
but when that does happen with the trophy, it's happened.

Speaker 6 (02:27:10):
We've seen that happen over the career a few times.

Speaker 7 (02:27:12):
Because it's even people outside of the building that are like, hey,
aren't you that guy? It's like, yeah, I broke the football.
All right, you get past it. It's fine. But here's
the question that I have when it comes to things
like this. If you did not win the trophy, do
you feel comfortable touching the trophy?

Speaker 9 (02:27:32):
I do you do if somebody allows me? Okay, I
know I wouldn't go up and say, you know, touch
it if they were holding it. And if someone said
you want to touch the trophy, I would like to
hold it. I don't know if i'd hold it because
I always say I wanted to hold the trophy that
we won, like like the great Oh yeah, yeah, well
that was cool.

Speaker 6 (02:27:52):
But if somebody says, hey, man, can I touch that?
It looks cool? Yeah hold it?

Speaker 9 (02:27:55):
Let me see how heavy it is. Oh yeah, I
don't have problem with that. But when it's in somebody
else's arms and you were part of it, hands off. See,
let's they approve it.

Speaker 7 (02:28:03):
I feel the same way about championship rings, Like I've
had a chance to be around people who have either
won the super Bowl, World Series, whatever it might be.
You know you want to see the ring, Sure you
want to hold the ring? Or do you want to
put it on. I always stop short with put it
on because I'm like, eh, now that feels weird. But
I will do like the kind of like you know,
cupped hand, maybe like another one to the side to

(02:28:24):
make sure it doesn't drop, and just kind of look
at it, maybe you know, thumb and you know ring
finger something like that, you know, index finger, kind of
pick it up, look around a little bit.

Speaker 6 (02:28:34):
Oh that's cool.

Speaker 7 (02:28:34):
And you know some of these now they have like
interchangeable faces, like you can you know, almost like locket
style opens up and there's like lights in it and
all that. Like that's kind of cool. But like it's
also like you know, say, for example, the commissioner's trophies.
We've had a chance to be around them now because
the astros will bring them out every once in a while.
I mean, unless somebody says, you know, hey, you know,

(02:28:58):
gonna pick it up handed to you, which again it
would be almost kind of like serving style right there.
If you've got to you know, get the confirmation of hey,
you got it, yeah, I got it, then you can
let go because if it's like you know, lost in
translation right there, you drop the Commissioner's trophy. A couple
of the pennants are bent, then it's.

Speaker 9 (02:29:14):
Uh, yeah, I won't touch any of that. Now, if
it's sitting on a stand and nobody's holding it, I'm
not touching it. Yeah, I stay away from it. For
somebody's hole to say, you want to feel I have it,
it's sure, I'll give it right back to it.

Speaker 6 (02:29:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:29:24):
But if it's not my team stuff, and you're like
when you're standing on the sideline of a college football
game and the trophy's there, I'm not touching ring. I have,
you know, I have put I've had people say, well,
championship ring or your rose boring? Can I sure you
take it off and let them see it? And I
have put on other people buddies of mine that have
won super bowings. Just see what it looks like, and
it looks pretty cool, right, or Hall of Fame ring, right?

Speaker 6 (02:29:46):
But uh, that's more. But I would not ask somebody
I did not know, you know, you know, but you're
not friends with them. Amen.

Speaker 9 (02:29:53):
I try any ring, that's all that's it might be
a little And now those guys say, anybody want to
hold ring? Charles Haley will sometimes go give it up.
And I've been with him an event where he has
his rings around a big old change go like six
of them, right, super Bowl rings and he's got them
all dangled it from his deck. It's like, this is
really cool and people want to touch him and see him.

Speaker 6 (02:30:12):
I get it. But that's part of his deal when
he goes and talks to people.

Speaker 7 (02:30:16):
But it's also too I mean, here here's one that
it's timely, the Master's jacket. Like say, you know, for
whatever reason, John Rahm, he's going to make an in
studio visit and we make the request we bring bring
the green jacket, buddy, right, you know, it's one of
those if he asks, hey, you know, you guys want
to try it on, It's like, I mean, you know,
I mean, I'm assuming we're probably about seam size you

(02:30:38):
two with Ramer. And that's why I threw him out
because Rory, neither of us are putting on that jacket.
We're not even getting one arm in the sleeve. No,
that's that's not happening. Dustin Johnson would probably be better
for me. So you know, six three, I'm six'. Five
he's probably two. Twenty i'm two forty. Five so, yeah
He's i'm trying to think of big, golfers he'd probably
be that's the one for. Me, Yeah rory and The

(02:31:00):
tiger and those guys a little, summer a little too,
thin And i'm sure not getting In Mike weir's jacket
or Or Ian woosdom's.

Speaker 6 (02:31:08):
Jacket, Right scheffler looks a little.

Speaker 9 (02:31:10):
Taller, uh and, rangy But Dustin johnson feels LIKE i
DON'T i don't know how Tall Bobby jones was in his.
Suits he looks pretty, tall and you, know BUT i
think that i'd Probably Dustin johnson's would he won one green?

Speaker 6 (02:31:25):
Jacket?

Speaker 5 (02:31:25):
Right?

Speaker 9 (02:31:25):
Yeah well he's won once right, There, yeah not, twice just.
ONCE i think he would probably be the one that
would fit fit for me because of his. Height but,
Yeah i'm not putting that on.

Speaker 7 (02:31:36):
Either, well you, know they're the real insult would be and,
look no Disrespect. Craig but if somebody, said, uh, hey
what about uh what About stadler's, jacket Then i'd be
like The trojan would be, like what are you trying
to say about?

Speaker 4 (02:31:49):
Me?

Speaker 9 (02:31:49):
Yeah exactly put On? Stadlers you know the? Walnuts, yeah,
yeah Usc, Trojan. Dad that wouldn't fit me. Either it'd
be up to my elbows and it'd be a little too,
wide probably at the at the at the bare mid,
drift you know What i'm. Saying but it sure be
got to be a great. Thrill there's no jacket in
your life you want more than that one you Fame
hall Of.

Speaker 6 (02:32:09):
Fame.

Speaker 9 (02:32:10):
Yeah WHEN i look at The hall Of fame more
as the, ring not the, jacket, Right really The hall
Of fame ring you're talking. ABOUT i take that. Back
you're talking about the mustard color. Jacket they all wear,
that you get.

Speaker 6 (02:32:19):
IT i for, Me.

Speaker 9 (02:32:22):
I'd probably have to try on the ring a little
less informed me where it's ALL i feel invasive putting
somebody else's sport code on that they were fitted for
EXACTLY i hold.

Speaker 6 (02:32:31):
It so this is really.

Speaker 9 (02:32:33):
Cool but for, me it's The hall Of fame ring
THAT i look at and, say, man that's. Cool fit
it on because it is close To i'm ever going
to Get With, augusta it's a no. Brainer it's like the.
Jacket BUT i STILL i wouldn't want to slide it.
ON i think it'd be cool for a, picture but
it's like this is His it's almost like there's only
one person to win that jacket on with With, Scotti,
scheffler it's. MINE i feel like you got to do the.
Detective you got to do the picture of like the

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pointing to it right. Right but that's that's WHY i
got right he's got it on while you're standing next
to it when it's hanging.

Speaker 3 (02:33:00):
Up.

Speaker 9 (02:33:00):
Yeah that it's, LIKE i don't, know you, know when
it comes to, clothing that that's that feels almost Like i'm,
invasive trying not your buddy's, shirt hooded Sweatshe, yeah but
that's like. Rarefied that's like sacred, stuff. RIGHT i think
they get, asked so you, know, hey CAN i touch it?

Speaker 8 (02:33:16):
All?

Speaker 9 (02:33:16):
Now you're touching me every frigging? Day, yeah oh. Yeah
if they're out with, It, oh there's no doubt. PEOPLE i,
MEAN i don't know WHAT i. Mean maybe it's gonna you,
KNOW i feel like it's gonna give me some good.
Energy i'm gonna be able to hit the ball better
Because scheffler's got. One but, No i'm. Not i'm staying
away from. That let's, say say you can touch, it
But i'm. Not, oh let me touch your back of
a Green. Jay it's a sport.

Speaker 6 (02:33:36):
Coat here's another. One unless you were part of the
win and part of the. Team no kissing the. Trophy, yeah,
no kiss you're part of. It no kiss your.

Speaker 9 (02:33:45):
Putterhead if you made the, putty do all, that and
you can kiss the trophy if you.

Speaker 6 (02:33:49):
Want if you're. Not don't smooch the. Trophy, no, yeah
it's not. Yours don't do.

Speaker 7 (02:33:53):
That that's weird because then they got, to you, know
bring out the pledge everything like that and scrub it.

Speaker 9 (02:33:57):
Off it's weird how how protective we are of and
it's like superstitious or whatever we are WITH ocd about
should we or shouldn't we when it comes to touching Every.

Speaker 6 (02:34:07):
Hey, man let me try your ring on or know the?
JACKET i can't touch the jack and how we delineate
between the two odd don't walk on.

Speaker 7 (02:34:13):
Don't walk on the logo in the locker room, either
that's a big, one especially in. Hockey, yeah and don't
plan a flag on the logo, either either of. That
neither of those laws are being passed for. That, Uh,
Tom jim, see you guys want to get in on
this so we can continue this. Conversation and also, too,
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Speaker 9 (02:35:35):
Ninety how he's haircut he had when he played for The.
Raiders the flat top works, man you, know works on him.

Speaker 7 (02:35:41):
Absolutely i'm sure now he's got you, know the sketcher's
slip ends and all of. That so how he's had
a good thing going for some, TIME i, mean you,
know other than when he got pushed off the train
and broke an. Arrow but you, know aside from, that
it's it's all worked.

Speaker 6 (02:35:53):
Out how Dare Christian slater in that? One who was his?
Leader in that?

Speaker 7 (02:35:59):
One it was, well the antagonist was Travolt travolta, there,
yeah exactly, Right, yeah he was the guy turned on
him in the plane and then you, know tried to
detonate the nuke And Christian slater saved the. Day so
it did the, more you, know all? Right seven, one, two,
five seven. Ninety tom wants to weigh and Hear, tom
what's going?

Speaker 6 (02:36:17):
On good, morning, guys love the.

Speaker 17 (02:36:21):
Show you guys do a fantastic, job really entertaining to listen.
To but you guys were talking about the championship, trophies
and it brought.

Speaker 6 (02:36:30):
To mind the one league that really.

Speaker 17 (02:36:32):
Does it, well which is THE, nhl because the team that,
wins every player gets to keep that. Trophy and you,
Know i'm probably butchering this a little, bit but every
player gets to keep that trophy for two or three
days and do whatever they want with. It AND i
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is no longer, there AND i can't remember the. GUY
i think he Was Boston bruins and it was like
two thousand and three or four or something like, that
but he brought the trophy. In NOW i don't know
if it was a real one or a, replica but
he brought it in, anyway it looked like the real.

Speaker 6 (02:37:09):
One fills it up with, beer.

Speaker 17 (02:37:11):
And anybody at the bar who wanted to drink out of,
it he let him drink out of.

Speaker 6 (02:37:15):
It it was just a super cool. Thing, See i'm
with you one hundred percent on.

Speaker 9 (02:37:21):
That Tom when it comes to The Stanley, cup all
bets are off because they actually encourage you to go do.
That you like he, said you get to hold on to.
It all bets are off if it's not. Mine if
he Offers i'm drinking out of. It matter of, Fact
i'm gonna ask if it's SOMEBODY i, know or like
a buddy that knows him will, say, hey, yeah this
guy's a friend of.

Speaker 6 (02:37:37):
Mine plays against, you. Cau you're damn.

Speaker 9 (02:37:40):
Right when A stanley cup's completely different than all of,
them that's like the uh you're drinking from a different.

Speaker 6 (02:37:46):
Cup i'm all in on.

Speaker 9 (02:37:47):
That The Stanley cups different than all the stuff we talked.
About that that has its own that has its own.
Category plus it's. Booze it kills the, germs, Right, YEAH
i don't care what you put in.

Speaker 6 (02:37:57):
There you won't man. Urine but other than, that, yeah,
yeah you put some. Milk probably it was the best.

Speaker 9 (02:38:04):
Way if that's the only CHOICE i, Got just to,
SAY i drink out Of Stanley.

Speaker 6 (02:38:07):
CUP i, no, yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:38:10):
No if somebody did, it that's your only chance to
drink out Of Stanley. Cup and your team or a
buddy of yours and his butt want it and they
offer it to. You i'm holding it And i'm. DRINKING
i prefer a cold. Beer but if, that he, says,
dude you're either drinking skim milk out of this thing
cold or you're not holding this cupan you're not.

Speaker 6 (02:38:27):
Drinking i'm drinking the. Milk i'll drink warm milk if it.

Speaker 7 (02:38:30):
Matters IF i have, to, WELL i think at that
POINT i probably would, be depending on where you are in.

Speaker 6 (02:38:35):
Line but, man, no, yeah that's.

Speaker 9 (02:38:38):
The cup trumps everything when it comes to awards and
how what you do with? It if they let, you
you sleep with, it you drink out of. It oh,
yeah take a golf take take it to Play, golfah
it doesn't.

Speaker 6 (02:38:51):
Matter, yeah it's it's it's with.

Speaker 9 (02:38:53):
That That's Stanley cup to, me and maybe it's my
affinity and love for, hockey but that's just a different you.
Know they the fact that they courage you, know don't
don't don't lose, it and don't don't screw it, up
which some people have you, know broken it or bent
it or have. You but just on the, sheer If
i'm in a bar and the standing cups, there do
you can bet your sweet ass That I'm i'm gonna

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hang around to see IF i get A gulpa cold
beer out of.

Speaker 7 (02:39:15):
It remember when the daughter of The Lombardi trophy creator
like lost her mind About Tom brady throwing it from
one boat to the, next.

Speaker 6 (02:39:23):
Stearing their boat.

Speaker 7 (02:39:24):
Parade, Yeah i'm not doing like she. Didn't he didn't
drop the trophy in the. Water he just tossed it
across the gronk a guy.

Speaker 6 (02:39:32):
That he knows can. Catch, yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:39:33):
Exactly, now a lesser quarterback with less confidence wouldn't have thrown. That,
brady who who didn't miss his target very, nice didn't
miss that, Either and a little booze helped to throw.

Speaker 7 (02:39:43):
TOO i was guess say it was before we got
the stiff. Walk you know the stiff, walk, right your
buddy's had a, few and you know you kind of
got to, like you, know you're the.

Speaker 6 (02:39:51):
One walking, them they're just kind of moving the.

Speaker 7 (02:39:54):
Feet And brady got that that, day you, know like
when you've got like the stiff limbs right there and
you know somebody's kind of like directing. You AND i
think it was like Not Blake, portles who was? It
it played At, Blaine Guy, Bayne, Gabbert Plain. GABBERT i
think it Was Blaine gabbert was the guy that.

Speaker 6 (02:40:10):
Drunk yeah, THAT.

Speaker 9 (02:40:15):
I guess if You're brady Or montana Or eilway one of,
those you can throw. It but the rest of us
wouldn't attempt. IT i don't think that'll make sure the
guy the other end catches. It that would be a bad.
Guy that's one of.

Speaker 6 (02:40:25):
Those, hey you notice how Drunk tom? Is, yeah who's taking?

Speaker 9 (02:40:28):
Time tom just seems like WHENEVER i see, him like
when he, said when you see, It i'm thinking that
guy's like the guy the first guy who got drunk
on college. Campus it has the very first time with his,
buddies and you know he's had like had like a
half a beer and he's like ripped a. Shred oh,
yeah that, guy That's. BRADY i feel like that's the
way he. Is, whatever he's.

Speaker 7 (02:40:45):
DRUNK i remember my first. Beer That's that's always the
saying that goes with. It He's Sean, Tripole Emanuel, Elmore Dan.
Matthews too much fun. Today it's a lot of. Fun
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