Free Agency Day 1 Overview, Texans Trade Laremy Tunsil To Commanders, Astros Spring Training Continues, Rockets Beat Magic

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saulsbury.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this. Shawn Salisbury, there to usc truths.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Brian Lima, go Lobos. This is the Shawn Salsbury Show.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Good morning fellas, Good morning. I'm one on board with
shipping tunnel. Where Tons in the offensive line was was
semi ass with him. So you can be just as
bad without him, but you can get better. I think
they said. I think they're tired of it too. What's
seventeen penalties last year? Most of them prep Yeah, you
know what. The assets are better now. You watch them

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package this and move up in this draft. You watch
or something, even if they don't build. Now it's like
the Oklahoma City Thunder in basketball, accumulate like eight million
picks and then be able to move him around. I
would have traded him too. This does not shock me.
It's on a show yesterday with JT the brick my guy,
and he was talking. I said, listen as appeal here

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shocked the guys. I mean, he's a pre snap turd
is what he is as a person I'm talking about
as a football player. It's a and hopefully it'll rejuvenate
him to be a little more focused, less undisciplined, and
that dan Quinn will whip him into shape by you know,
holding him accountable on the practice field. Off seasons, he's
he gets lazy, doesn't show up to workouts, but you know,

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when the ball snap, he's a good football player. He's
not a great player. Great players don't go off, don't
get penalized seventeen times, and great players also at aligneman
an offensive line. They don't get traded for a non
first round pick, right, Okay, they get traded for high
draft picks. So Larrmy Tunzel, I don't know him personally.
I'm sure he's a good guy, but dan Quinn's got

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to get him more disciplined. And I'm telling you right now,
Washington's doing great things offseason, Kinlaw. The defense, if they
shore that up, if Deebo Samuel's healthy, that's a that's
an upgrade. And the truth is Tunsl's an upgrade for them.
Oh yeah, but it's also an upgrade to get assets
and move on from him. This whole offensive line needs
to be told. And I'll tell you what message it

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sends to the other guys on this damn team. You're
a place, he say, damn, Right, you are. You're not above.
He's not the best left tackle. He's not even a
top five left tackle in my in my but he'll
be really good for Washington. It's an upgrade for them.
It's like we will Smith or should I say Cam
Smith is the sixth ranked prospect with the Cubs. He's
a number one ranked prospect here here. Tunsil is a

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good player, not a great player, because of all the
other stuff he does to put your team in a bind.
For Washington, he may be a great player, and we'll
see if you can get it at him. But I
didn't done the same thing. And it sends a message
go ahead, and hey, no step On Diggs back. They're
they're sending well, it's not a message, just they're moving on.
They get Christian Kirk. If you're not productive, or it's
too much money, or you're not putting us in a

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better spot, that's not Steph Digg's fault because the injury.
But if you're laring me, Tounseel, there's no sacred cows man.
You may have a couple of them, both those edge
rushers and the quarterback. Now pre sacred Nico Collins might be.
There ain't many of them, and on the offensive line,
there isn't one of them. So if you're one of
those guys and you're looking around and you're Howard, or
you're one of these other guys you look at standing around.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
If you're Titus Howard, you're asked better you uh, or
you'll be your head on a swivel because your next buddy.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Or it'll be sucking buttermilk somewhere else. You're Seattle seahawk,
that's right, you better start to look around and say, damn,
I uh they got they can get rid of that guy,
our best lineman. But too much this offensive line was
a detriment to their team, and quite frankly, so was
Laramie Tunsell pre snap. He just was seventeen pend. Yes,
there's nobody that calls in here. If Tunzel himself and

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the Good Lord himself, anybody else calls in, he says, well, Sean,
he is a great player. You ain't gonna get to
convince me because I have no problem fighting that one.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
Yeah, good player. I think Good Lord himself would even
come down here and say good Lord himself jumping off.
Good Lord hi self would have traded him. Yeah yeah,
So so I just to me, I not like it.
I love it. The message what they're trying to do,
and they got it. He's he's put it this way.
He makes more than the production you get. Yeah, I

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think that's the Obviously, he's a he's a pretty good
player when the ball snap, he's but he's a really
solid player for the most part. During games you're starting
first and fifteen on a couple different drives because of
his pre snap penalties. I think me for me and
I know we're gonna dig it. We've got so many
different angles with this whole thing. It's the message for me,
that's what I love about this. Demko Ryans came in

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and what's the thing you said first? Is he gonna
be a leader of men? And can he get along
with Nick Casserio. Well, there's no question that he's getting
along with Nick Caserio and there's no question that he's
a leader of men and he is really putting his imprint.
That's the best part for me.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
No doubt. And the I mean Tonso is a solid player. Yeah,
solid player, not a great player, he's just not You
can't do what he does. You're not just talking about
first and fifteen, but third and four, and then all
of a sudden he jumps down's third and nine. Now
completely changes the way I play defense against you. Yes,
it's hain't any ass and it's too much. And I
gotta tell you this, it looks like Nick Casserio is

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doing the same things Belichick used to do. Ty Law
Lawyer Malloylloy doing on regularly. Just when they thought their
career was on the downswing, they let him go. They
either cut them, traded him, or moved on from it,
didn't give him a contract. Ty Law is one of
the best corners we've ever had. Lawyer Milloy was a
great Pro Bowl safety right at the feel like, what
are you doing? And they never had their same season again.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
Lawyer Milloy didn't they They loved him in New England
and they got rid of him and they brought out.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
In Rodney Harrison Harrison and he was a Pro Bowl Yeah,
and they have no problem. Hell, they were at the
end there when the Raider when Richard Seima, they weren't
going to pay Richard Simar all that money, and the
Raiders got him right so that they do it here.
Stefan Dig's a good player coming off an injury we
don't want to pay him. It's go get Christian Kirk.
He makes good money, a little bit cheaper option and

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a good player, Okay, Laramy Tunzel makes a lot of money.
Is the value worth the money? And the answer they
had is no. The assets that we're going to get
her more value to it. So I freaking love it.
I would have done the same thing. And when people
I was surprised that they had the balls to pull
the triggers. But I also you know what it tells
you is they knew last year or Tunsell's part of

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the problem. We all thought it was the other four
and then there's Tunsil. Oh no, no, no, they know he's
part of the issue of why. And it also tells
me that there this is just my opinion that off seasons.
You heard him say we want we will commitment to
off season being in the pro and buying in. Tunsll
bought in in the fall post snap. When else did

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he buy in? He was never at OTAs didn't and
then stop with it. He's one of the guys like
Ronnie Stanley or Trent Williams. He's not in their league. Okay,
so you can say I don't care what PFF comes
out with their grade, and I got a lot of
respect for the guys at PFF, but I want to
hear that grade. You can watch with the naked eye,
the raw football, and then we talked about the grading, says,
So I've watched guys run by him post snap too.

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So he's a good player. He's not a Hall of Famer.
He's sure as hell, isn't They the best left tackle
in the league. And quite frankly, he gives you as
he puts you in as many binds as he does
bail you out at times during a game because of
his penalties. So great players don't, I mean you'll You'll
never the greatest player in the history of football on

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offense or defense has never been going to be the
guy when you go back, is never going to be
the guy that gets penalized more than he you know,
we're talking about his penalties more than his play. And
unfortunately for tunsl last year, we were last two years
really and that's a bummer for him. I just saw
that Naji Harris. I've said, you're talking about Pittsburgh's building

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some offensive stuff, and boom, they let Najie Harris get
away because they that big physical back let him get
away nice with the charge, which is a perfect get
for Jim Harbaugh. I digress, but yeah, you can call
in all you want moving on from tunsl brilliant move. Yeah,
you know. Excuse me.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
Another message that shows me and you just hit on
it a little bit in it.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
But I want to go a little deeper.

Speaker 5 (08:03):
Is you talked about him not being bought in into
the like voluntary OTAs and or voluntary workouts and the
OTAs and all that stuff, not really round, not really
coming into training camp and participating in things like that.
That shows me that during the season they knew he
was an issue on this offensive line in that offensive
line coach and Bobby Slowyck did not do their job

(08:24):
to hold him accountable, or they did and he was
just not figuring it out.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Maybe he probably should have figured it out in the
offseason when those two left and you're looking for accountability
the next one. They got rid of their three most impact.
You have an offensive corda that's got impact your offense
one way or the other, an offensive line coach who's
direct impact, and the player who is the impact. Yeah,
and all three of them. Bingo bango bongo gone. Yeah,
so listen. At times I think, gosh dang, no patience.

(08:52):
But the other side of it is, if you know, why,
let it fester, right, And it does not matter what
any of the social media or media any buddy thinks.
If you're making decisions as a head coach based by
callers that call in, or fans that sit in the
stands in boo or us in the media that talk
about if you're basing your decisions on what we think
you should do, then you're a You're you're a full

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fledged bamboozled idiot. But that's not the guys here. They
are basing it on what they saw on tape, how
they see it, and they pretty much are saying to
you offensively, we have got to get better, and we weren't.
We aren't good enough. Neither of the coaches and or
the player who are supposed to be better. I ain't
wait until twenty twenty six. You're gone. All three will

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have jobs.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
Right.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
I don't know if the I don't know if the
if the offensive line coaches landed anywhere, but I know
that the coordinator and that the left tackle have and
they'll be fine. But I can tell you this back
to back years, win the division and guess what, still,
don't let players get comfortable. That's the type of team
I like. Yeah, I like. And so much for player empowerment, right, al,

(10:00):
show up what I want? Player empower you're asked to Washington, Yeah,
see later, see you later?

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Yeah yeah, And so I think, excuse me, the big
thing Damiko. Ryan's putting his impact on this input on
his team last two off seasons, right, establishing different culture
inside of that building, you know. And they say culture
doesn't change when a coach tells the players that they're wrong.
It changes when players tell other players, no, that's not
how we do things here.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Great. Nice. Where'd you get that one from?

Speaker 5 (10:25):
Yeah, that's my uh ah, he's an acquaintance, met him
along the way.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Jeff Hecklinsky. Yeah, one of the best. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
Now use it in a sentence, uh, Jeff Hecklinsky, Yeah.
Jeff Hecklinsky said that Laryon Tunsen is now a commander.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
There you go, man, what are we gonna do with that?
Larry My tunzel Man, Uh, probably get quicker games, so
we're not backing up fifteen yards or five yards about
every fourth play.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
Larryen Tons, Laryn Tons and gone see you later. I
was all this NFL stuff was coming, uh coming out
on Twitter. Plus Twitter got hacked yesterday, by the way,
and that's why I was down and we couldn't figure
it out. And then I was watching some of the
Astros game camp Smith got another hit by the way,
but watching that, and then out of nowhere, I see
a buddy of mine tweet out he was like, they
actually did it.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I was like, they did?

Speaker 2 (11:15):
What?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Who is they?

Speaker 5 (11:18):
So I'm like trying to get my Twitter just to
update and it wouldn't freaking update. So I get onto
Instagram and I see our Sports Talk seven ninety put
up a poll something about Laramie Tunzel being traded good
or bad?

Speaker 1 (11:28):
And I was like, wait, what see you? They did it?
And I saw a bunch of Vikings fans tweet hey,
Rogers done deal, and everybody thought Rogers because far the
jar sign. I think it's a corner of safety with
the name Rogers, and I even looked at it, thinking,
are you kidding? They did not pull this off where
he's going the same exact path that Farv went. And

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then it's somebody else like, oh you guys, a what
a prick maybver put me in that situation that he
went there. But yeah it was it was down. But
I I like love the direction, man, I do. And
now they gotta have some package to do it. Nobody
ever needs a package. You know, you have a big jackage,
a big package of stuff. Yeah, assets. I don't want

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to an asset. That's a big package. Good, you know
what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, what an asset it is? Right? Yeah,
your guy has one? What's that? Yeah? Yeah yeah, yeah,
well you know he'd argue the other way, but hey,
who's who's counting? But yes, you gotta have you gotta
have your assets. Got to be a big package of players, right,
just got to be a big package.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
Yeah, So there you go. Great job, by the way,
Good to see you.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
You guys.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Man, Just a really good to see you. Yeah, man,
appreciate it. Appreciate it. Hey, it's essential. Yeah it is
like yeah man, yeah, I see got it in. I
ordered it like two months ago.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
And it finally came the essential site.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
I'm just really glad. It's uh, great to see you, buddy.
I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
That'll look great on you. Yeah, whoa on his cameras rolling. No,
they're not. Oh they're not. They don't get turned onto
about one five. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's for the
eight team. Yeah yeah. Are they working today? I don't
know what to do? The ass play today, check it out,
hold on tons and I think.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
They have a night game tonight, so maybe everyone's got
to work today. Crazy how that works? Is this spring
break too?

Speaker 1 (13:21):
It's word on the street, m word on the MFM street. Though.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
Hey you think, uh, you know, do you think if
Aaron Rodgers goes the Brett favrout do you think he's
wearing wranglers?

Speaker 1 (13:33):
No, I think he'd probably he's more of a he
feels like more of a a.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
That dude's a Coulotts guy. The bell bottoms at the knee,
old school Coulots talking about a Yeah, yeah, bat he's
wearing some like Hemp pants. Oh he'll up or like
some like wool something he knitted himself.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
I mean that will be absolutely shocked if Rogers chooses
the Giant kind of what gay. If Rogers chooses I
know you meant like happy, right, very happy right, yes,
because you know he's kind of happy. Right. If Rogers
chooses like the Giants, over the Pittsburgh Steelers. He'll tell
me that he just wants to stay in his new
crib in New York. It doesn't want to go to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
If he do, If the Giants, he chooses the Giants
over that, I will trip out. Who's gonna throw DK
Metcalf and Pickens the ball for in Pittsburgh?

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Well, Harry Hatchett asked, if things don't change quickly, I can't.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
And you know you saw all the memes right about
George Dickens, DK Metcalf fighting each other and fighting other people.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Oh that, oh yeah, oh yeah, that that's bound to happen. Yeah,
because both of them got the Pickens is a little
bit of an explosive person on it, man, Yeah, a
little bit. But they're gifted.

Speaker 7 (14:41):
Man.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Both those guys can flat out go now, Yeah, they
can go. So Garrett Coles, let's see Yeah, Tommy John,
see you later. Yep, he gone. Yeah. I can't believe that,
Like I mean, I knew it. I'm saying it out loud.
When I saw yesterday, I thought that he's not really gone. No,
he's out till twenty twenty six. Yeah, he's done. Yankees

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are done too, Yeah, hang the banner. Well, pitching wise,
they're not done. I mean, having another good spring. But
what's the who's the dude that they added in?

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Max Freed? Yeah? Left? There you go from Atlanta? Yeah,
hot Atlanta. Yep.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
All right, we got a lot to get into today.
There's so much, so much NFL news that dropped yesterday afternoon,
yesterday evening. Of course, these Texans traded away Laramie TUNSI
will take your calls all morning long. Seven one, three,
two point two, five, seven nine. Let's look at it
from a different perspective. It has to do with Demico Ryans.
What does it say from the head coach to trade

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your highly paid left tackle?

Speaker 1 (15:39):
That's next.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
Sean Salisbury Bryan, The Sewan Salisbury Show continues, Good done
on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
All right, so you got a problem with it, No,
I don't not at all. I'm good with it. I'm
gonna be even better with it to see what they
do with these picks. See if they try to trade up,
See if they try to go get somebody else. Because
free agency, we remember last year, after day one, the
Texans didn't make very many moves. It's day two now,
so We'll see what happens as the free agent period

(16:19):
goes on, plus that new league year I believe starts
on Wednesday. Laramie Tunzell being traded for me Again, I
said it last segment. We'll discuss a little more. Is yes,
you traded him. It's going to free up some money,
right because reportedly he wanted he was gonna want another
massive contract and they wanted to change the culture. So

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that's that's what I want to ask you about. And
again I'll say it again. When Dimico Ryans was hired,
there was so much made about is he going to
be able to change this culture with with Lovey Smith?
Remember remember we had a big discussion about it. It
seemed like guys weren't really given one hundred percent effort

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with Lovey Smith. He wasn't getting his most out of
that group, right, So we're saying, how can Demico Ryans
change that and bring in some quote unquote dogs into
this locker room?

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Right changing the culture?

Speaker 5 (17:12):
Sean, they just traded away lamry Tonzo, who's been their
starting left tackle, does a pretty good job post snap.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
They just traded him.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
So what does that say about what Demico Ryans and
Nick Cassario are continuing to do with this culture.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Like it should say in every building in the NFL.
If you're not, if you don't bring more value than
you're getting paid, not only to us, to you, to
players around you, then we'll get rid of you. And
they traded him for I mean a pretty good haul
that there was no first round picking it. Great player
didn't Trent Williams get a first round pick when he
got traded from Washington to San Francis Francisco. Yeah, I

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believe so to me, the great players that's held regard
I mean Tunsel, they got a good haul and they
were smart to do it because those assets they are
building up, they basically decide. And when I say the
headache somebody he's a problem off the filery, that the
headache of the money that's going to come down the
pike because he doesn't deserve to be the highest paid
left tackle or one of the and that he just doesn't.

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You can't have any penalties and do it. Good player
not great. Good player won't sniff the Hall of fam here,
people hal of fakes. Stop it, just friggin stop it.
And I think the culture part of that you're talking
about they don't get to dictate aufstee we listen. It's changed,
and I know the CBA protects the players, but when
they used to call it voluntary, it was mandatory. When

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up until what nineteen ninety five two thousand and then
voluntary became really voluntary. And if you give a couple
athletes some voluntary work, increase their pay and give them
leeway to stay at home until they absolutely have to be. See,
that's one thing that bugs me. How often will you
tell a kid you're coaching or a kid I'm coaching,
you better do some lonely work man show up without

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a coach having to tell you to show up. See
in the Tunsil stuff, I feel like he shows up
when he's absolutely told to, which to me is a
culture problem. I'm gonna tell you right now. You think
Peyton Manning ever showed up, It didn't show up when
it was voluntary, or when he even managed absolutely there
before everybody else.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
I think Peyton Manning probably arranged his own workouts before
any of that.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Warren Moons voluntary manager. I know it's older school, but
even now, it's not the rule that's set up by
the CBA. It's the player and the character within the player.
And I'm sure the guy's in the locker room love Tunsel.
I got nothing against him. I'm simply talking football and
your commitment to it. It felt like in listening to
it that it was a that the commitment was do

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exactly what you're asked to do and nothing more. And
I don't to me, I don't think you get better.
And I think they realized that. I think they realized
the halls better than the player that if it comes
around again, they're not going to pay him the money
he wanted because he's not worth that much money. He's
a good player, and I actually think if he goes
there and has a little shift to heart, he can
be a great player for Washington, their quarterbacks. Really. I mean,

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he's going to a good place, yeah, and be better.
But the problem is, I don't know, can you change
your guys. If he doesn't value off seasons as much others,
you may not be able to change that. In tons,
he's still should be better at the snap, right he
just is. We'll see if he puts in self and
the team in as much pressure and problems as he
did here pre snap. But with all that being said,

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The culture is simply this, and I'm big on it,
the guarantee of sacred cows, thinking that I can show up.
And when you start to create that type of culture,
it separates a locker room because there's two sets of rules.
And this message simply says to me that the value
and there's not two sets of rules. If you're not
doing what you need to do, we will find somebody

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else who will. We'll trade you. That's exactly right. I
love it exactly and quite frankly, if you're to put
it this way, I know they got a lot of
a pretty good haul for him, but if your tons
will I know how players in their ego are. If
you think you're the best left tackle in the league
and they trade you for picks and not a one
of them said first round on it. You're y I

(21:01):
guarantee your I'll bet you if you talked to them today,
he'd say they didn't get enough for me.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
Yeah, I'm about to go show them one hundred percent.
You watch, Okay, Well, yeah, you know what they are.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
The hell they should have added they should have asked
for as many players as he had penalties, and then
he'd had a real haul so like seventeen of them. Okay,
so he a good player, But I don't consider it
a major loss. I know that some people can say
I don't. Well, look how bad the line is. That
means are retooling the whole friggin thing. Yeah, especially with
the offensive coordinator. I'd like you to tell me this,
hen I've always said this, and I'll say it louder

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so the people in the back can hear. And it's
a friggin fact. Give me a Hall of Famer and
four average players on the offensive line, you will get
your ass kicked. Give me five consistent players with no
Hall of Famer and no Pro bowler, we'll win more.
Five guys working together that are good players, and none
of them are superstars, none of them are going to

(21:54):
the Pro Bowl. Then it's all really good players, consistent,
show up and do all those things. You're gonna win
more than the one Hall of Famer in four eh.
And you know what they had last year, not a
Hall of Famer. They're one player is a good player,
a Pro Bowl guy. The other four were just kind
of blah. They did okay, and look what happened. So
did that one player. Because I can walk my best

(22:14):
player to the other side. He ain't moving too the
right tackle. So all just put my best players in
a position I don't have to deal with your best,
and they can beat their best once in a while anyway,
that's how you do it. Now, if you're fortunate like
I was in Minnesota to play with Zimmerman and Randall
McDaniel on the same side, a studded center, a right guard,
there's pretty good in a right tackle who was a
solid player, you're gonna be able to do pretty much

(22:36):
what you want. Yeah, if you get that blessing, very
few get it. If you get Detroit's people line up
and go, Philadelphia's offensive line lineup and go. This offensive
line proved that one guy with four uh in very good.
And when the one guy lead your team at Penalis,
that means five were blah. That's how you change the culture. Man.
You don't put up with crap. You don't let the

(22:57):
players dictate what goes on. If you're not Surrey Nick
say but always says it, what value do you bring?
I need five consistent players. I don't need one superstar
at that position. If I can get three superstars, well hell,
guess what we're gonna win a lot of friggin football games.
I wish you just dropped that f I almost did
almost two o'clock. I'll drop it.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
Cool cool sell there, yes, other, Hey, you know another
thing we're talking about with U this offensive line.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Give me beer drinkers, all right, beer?

Speaker 5 (23:27):
Yeah, be a whisky guy, not a warm milk Yeah,
this handbag, handbag model rep in your your matching little
PJ set. No, no, no out, give me some beer drinkers.
I know this is going to sound wrong, and you'll
get the gist. I don't need a Louis Vuitton coach
bag offensive lineman. I need a guy who's got a
backpack that's ripped that same nylon uh like carry can

(23:50):
carry to the gym that he's had since he was
like fourteen that he put.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
You put the electrical tape on it to keep it together, Jimmy,
that guy, Yeah, give me those guys. That's exactly just
and just wants to just want the tatus guy and
go home to a good woman and wants a cold beer. Yeah,
that's exactly he won't get and he doesn't care the flavor. No,
exactly want of course the tap. Maybe it's the tap
is it. Sometimes you just gotta tap that ass. Yeah,
I want you to tap these nuts. Let's look at

(24:15):
the hall. Why don't you tap these nuts?

Speaker 5 (24:18):
Let's look at the hall that the Texans received, right
for I figured all I was like, if Sean's s.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
You can make it everything. Yeah. Hold hold these nuts too. Yeah.
Let's go to commercial Yeah, commercializing you can do so
many different times.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
Triple can you get your guy, man, he's over here. Yeah, yeah,
he's out of control.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Man.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
All right, let's look at the hall that the Texans
got for trading Laramie Tunzel. Will discuss the next on
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued. You know who Phil Collins is?

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Heard of him somewhere along the line. Yeah, I don't
know who fell cost You don't fill these nuts on
your forehead? Okay, how's that's from.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
Let's talk about Laramie Tunzel in the hall they got
for him. Commanders get offensive tackle Laramie Tunzel and a
twenty twenty five to fourth round pick. The Texans get
a twenty twenty five third round pick, a twenty twenty
five to seventh round pick, a twenty twenty six second
round pick, and a twenty twenty six fourth round pick.
Texans also get fourteen million in cap space. This is

(25:36):
the thing that you're gonna look at and it's going
to effect later on down the road. You have to
remember Derek Stingley Junior probably gonna be the highest paid
corner in I don't know a year, maybe even get
paid this offseason, who knows. Then you also have Will
Anderson Junior. You also have c J. Stroud. They probably

(26:00):
want to pay Jalen Peatrie as well because he's a
guy that you're gonna need. He's a difference maker. So
there are some contracts that they're gonna going to have
to deal with. So at the end of the day, Sean,
it's you can't pay everyone. And if you're the Texans,

(26:20):
you had to look at that. And larry ton'zel one,
if he wanted a new deal, no, I'm not paying
you see.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Later, Well he doesn't trade him.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
Well, it's just like you know what, It's just like, well,
something similar to Kyle Tucker. They knew they weren't gonna
be able to afford him, they traded him, got and
got something while they could. I think the Texans looked
at it, Hey, Laramy's gonna want a new new contract
in the year it.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Ends up being a two of three, of five and
a six, Is that right? Or a six of five
and a seven? Which was it? I'm trying to remain
I know it's a two overall. It doesn't matter what years, two, three, five, seven. No,
there's no two in there. It's a two three four
five or two three four s Okay? Sorry?

Speaker 5 (26:57):
So the yeah, you do you get a second round,
a third round, a fourth round, and a seventh round seven.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, that's a no brainer. You had to do it.
You absolutely had to do it. It shows you that
Washington covets him, and rightfully so good player and if
he can put it this way, if he could prevent
pre snap penalties and showed you a commitment in the
off season to doing all that. But he's not, I know.
But if he did, then you say, you know what,

(27:23):
you wouldn't have traded him. I say, snap penal. As
you said, let me pay him keep where he's our staple.
But unfortunately it's not worth He's not going to be
worth the values. Not is what you think it should be. Yeah,
but Washington, listen, one person's we can let him go
as another person's treasure man. So I think it's a
good message. And they've got some studs down the road.

(27:46):
And I'm, like I said, in truth, I'm not worried
about twenty twenty seven right now. I care about twenty
twenty five. And you know, do you have enough to
free up twenty twenty six? But you can see look
what the forty nine ers are doing to their roster.
Hufunga gone, Green lauded den are gone. Kyle Yustchek's getting cut. Yeah,
I getting cut. It's all that. I mean, Rock Purty,
I mean all this money, They've cut some offensive linemen.

(28:08):
They are moving gone, they are moving on. Buddy, I'm
gonna tell you right now, the Rams right now are
so much better than the forty nine ers are. And
I hate to say it, all that talent and a
wasted opportunity to win a Super Bowl when they got
to two of them, yep, and couldn't close it out
the last four or five years. And that's a bummer
because as good as Rock Purty can be, Rock Purty's

(28:30):
not the type of quarterback that can carry average players
to a special place. He needs good players around him
because there's some limits on his physical skills. But he's
a really good player. Yeah, but they're getting red a
lot of guys, and they are going to pay him
close to between forty five and fifty million bucks just
like that. But I guess that I hold him in.
I like the story of a guy who's last pick
and finally he earned every ounce of that job. Why

(28:52):
because he didn't get a special opportunity going in. When
you draft a guy in the seventh round, sometimes just
a throwaway pick. Let's see what happens with this guy.
They didn't expect this, I assure you, they didn't expect this.
So and he's he'd done more than a half a
season than Trey Lance did in his whole career. And
Garoppolo was up and down, had his moments. So they're
look at the talk about look what they're doing. They're saying,

(29:13):
this guy's not worth it. This guy's not worth it,
this guy's not worth it. Got to go. And here
Tonsol's gonna and if he goes and plays well, he'll
get big money from Washington. He's still not the best
left tackle league. I would have done the exact same thing,
And you can package a two of three and a
four and a seven with a lot of good stuff,
and they're all going. And if you keep those and
you get rookie contracts, my gut says, what if you

(29:35):
moved up and package the you know, next year's second
and this year's first to move up to the teams
in this draft now And now maybe it's a different
type of player, but what you do now gives you
the flexibility with assets to move it on an offensive
line that quite frankly, I could have had five average
players play like those guys did last year, Tonsil or

(29:56):
no Tounzel, just because, like I said, that's the most
unique position where three can play well, two play bad.
You're losing. You're losing because they will find that blood
in the water and a defensive coordinator in a second,
See these two guys can't block anybody, go go go, Well,
we'll make sure they're sliding their line one way and
we're gonna pressure them another. And that's exactly what you get.

(30:19):
That's exactly what the Texans realize we are. We can
be average without him.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
Yeah, when that philosophy hits, listen, I could be average
without him.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Oh well, then we got to move him. If if
you think you can be better without him, and they
do now, or they wouldn't have moved him. Bam.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
And like you said, the Kyle Tucker, if you can't
afford him, then you know next thing. You know, Old
Jed's a millionaire somewhere else, and that's fine. And then
you get a couple of good players elsewhy otherwise so important?

Speaker 1 (30:48):
And this is a moving year for the Texans. They
need to take another step.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
Yeah, but they have a new offensive coordinator, so that
kind of shows you again he's trying to get his
imprint on this offense. And it starts with the offensive line,
because they were horrible for the Texans this past season.
All right, with Laramie Tunsel being traded to the Washington Commanders,
what's next for that offensive line? Who is going to
step up and play left tackle for the Texans. We'll
discuss the next right here on Sportslock seven.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
To eighty're back.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Get back at it.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
It's got stephone lines Travis, good morning.

Speaker 7 (31:23):
What's uphillers can out hear me?

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, we got you, buddy. What's happening?

Speaker 6 (31:27):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (31:28):
Okay, hey man, Hey, I love to move man I'm
making this pick.

Speaker 6 (31:31):
I love to trade.

Speaker 7 (31:33):
First of all, Man the offensive line, they didn't have
no no identity at all. Man, no identity. They know
what they wanted to be, whether they want to be
a bulletball team or they want to be the nest.
They just had no type of identity. And it comes
down for me, it comes down to two leaders of
the on line. There was an offensive line coach. I
don't know if you didn't have any type of identity

(31:54):
by himself, but he but he didn't be a no
type of you know, on to the offensive line. And
then Larry and Thompson too is the second leader. He's
a high profile player at left tackle who you know,
the highest paid. You didn't have no and a and
a and and and nothing in the offensive line. They
follow what the two leaders are. So if the two leaders,

(32:19):
you know, don't bring that cultural change that I didn't
need you the whole line, I was gonna have it.
Man and Larry and tumps here remind me of old
Mario Williams that we took back and oh sick, great
tank the guys, but they never wanted the responsive bit
of being leaders and to bring their cultural change. But
they don't understand that when you the high profile of player,

(32:40):
you have to have those type of impact on your team.
It's not you know what you want to do is
what you have to do. So how the you have
to be the the blue the blueprint. You gotta come
in there your off days, you gotta stay working. You
got to get the guys together many I got to
always stay together trying to improve and get better. It's
just part of the game, man. And I hang up

(33:03):
and listen.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
To thank you Dravis. He's spot on identity. And if
you don't have an offensive line identity, it's hard to
have a football identity. It just is. If your identity
is perimeter, if your identity is finesse, you ain't gonna win.
And this team was way too finesse up front last
year offensively, and then they weren't finesse enough on the perimeter.

(33:28):
That makes sense. So if that's your game, you better be.
You better have uh Kurt Warner, Marshall Falk, Bruce Tory, Holt,
Ricky prol as a hero, a keen type people, and
that the left tackle on that team was pretty good. Yeah,
he's He's in the Hall of Fame. So to me.
It is they they they've got to pick what they

(33:51):
want to and it's telling me that they're trying to
get more physical and I listen, Demiko Ryans knows it,
and so do they. Finesse teams don't win champion chips
at any level.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
No, no, no, there was no finett or excuse me,
there was no physicality with that offensive lineman times. All right,
here's a James Palmer, senior NFL reporter for Underdog Fantasy,
also doing some stuff for Bleacher Report. He talked about
the Laramie Tunnel trade, ABM.

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Speaker 5 (35:02):
And the Texans trade away Larmie tunsl Free agency kicking
off in the NFL yesterday. Here is everything that the
Texans have done defensive end Derek Barnett one year, five
million dollars. Running back darry agoombawal A one year, two

(35:23):
million dollars, cornerback Tremon Smith two years, seven and a
half mil. Wide receiver Braxton Barrios one year two mill.
They traded for Christian Kirk. They brought back defensive tackle
Sheldon Rankins one year up to seven mil, wide receiver
Justin Watson, defensive end Durrell Taylor. They traded Laramie Tunsel.

(35:46):
They got linebacker Jake Hanson. So adding in some pieces
with the free agency. Obviously a couple of wide receivers,
Christian Kirk the big one, but then they bring in
Braxton Barrios and Justin Watson.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Branda Watson, you know, could be a sneaky get.

Speaker 5 (36:12):
Randy Watson, I mean he was great. Randy Watson was
awesome and coming to America, you know what I mean.
He was not to be confused with Justin Watson, who
will be great for the Texans. I use the term
loosely a little bit, you know, great that may not
be great, but I think they did some good things there,

(36:32):
re signing.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Some of the people they like on short term deals.
I like that because a lot of times, you know,
the corrier team's not usually the your Pro Bowl or
the best player, and it's not usually the worst player.
The courrier team is right in the middle. Fourth round
draft pick, sixth round draft pick, free agent, signing, a trade, uh,
a guy who plays special teams and linebacker. That's usually

(36:54):
the corrier team. And then you got to have the
big the big uh, the big knockers. Oh not pause.
Jerry Burns called him. The big knockers are the guys
who are making your big money and that you're relying
on in big pressure games to make big knockers. Yeah, well,
I mean they usually do on the football field. They well,
they come up, they come up bigger on the in
game day. The big knockers are supposed to on game day, right, Yeah,

(37:16):
the big knockers come up big on game day. And
that's your Strouds. You know, that's your Strouds, Your you know,
your Will Anderson's, your Stingley's, your Pea Trees. That's who
that is, Nico Collins. Those are the big knockers. But
the core of your teams, the other thirty, the twenty guys,
twenty five guys in between to just keep grinding. You
get a guy in the off seats and say, man,

(37:36):
that's the one year. What good is that going to do?
And he ends up being a backup linebacker? Guy gets
certainly he made twenty tackles in a game, makes twenty
tackles a game. We've seen that here. Yeah, and that guy,
you know, we've seen that guy who's now playing in Minnesota.
You're doing a good job there too, who is a
backup linebacker. You're took care of it. And Minnesota signing
so that that happens your team and you've got to
have those other guys that are really really good.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
Do you find it a little odd of the two
wide receiver signings yesterday? I think it's a little different.
You may you brought in two wide receivers. Take I'm
taking Christian Kirk out of it. It's the Watson and
Brason Barrios. You brought in those two. They're not game changers. Yeah,
but you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
They're they're just kind of they're just jags. Take a
look at it. What's those jags? Just a guy? You
need about thirty of those just a guy. I mean,
it's not it's gonna be reliable and do it. Now,
take a look at both those guys. Tell me the risk.
Yeah you don't have what's the risk, Yeah, you don't
have the risk. Sure, you're adding depth in the room.
You know that Tank Dell's not gonna play this year,

(38:37):
Digs is moving on. You've added Christian Kirk and when
he got Hutchinson and uh and match. So basically you're saying, well,
let me bring in a couple more guys to compete.
I need Listen, I got news for you. You need about
twenty bodies at wide receiver during training camp two. I'm
not saying they're training camp legs or just wide receivers,
but the f on the surface, it looks like, well,
we didn't we didn't bring in a a guy comparable

(38:58):
to Nico Dollins. Well, of course, those guys aren't easy
to find, and I'm not sure they're done at the
receiver thing for that guy you're looking for. But you
got to have those other guys. Those other guys on
teams are guys that rear their head. Look in Buffalo
when they lost all their guys, those other guys stepped
up and made some plays last year for them. So
I uh, yes, it has become like their most explosive

(39:20):
player player and look at that made Amari Cooper. Then
that made him expendable. So it happens. So the Jags
are important.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
They are. Like I said, I don't think they're done.
They're going to do a lot on the offensive line.
I don't think they're done at wide receiver. And it
may not be jagging maybe a draft pick. It may be.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
You know, it's not a great kind of like the
quarterbacks in this class. There's a couple of tackles. It's
not a great class. But more importantly, you've been looking
for interior guys. And now you're saying, well, without touns
of what are we going to do? I don't know.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
Maybe they move somebody over there, maybe they're still a
free agent or a trade. Maybe you're gonna use some
of these assets to package a trade. That somebody wants
more money from another stand and that there's somebody wants
to move another guy, just like they move Tunsel. So
whatever it might be, they'll get better at that position.
They're gonna be better. Yeah, they just are.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
So those just the guys Watson and the players Burials,
those are guys that help on special teams come in
when a guy gets hurt and they catch five balls.
Think Chris Hogan. Well, I mean in the past, remember
Hogan in New England lacrosse player didn't and then he
came in and boom and was a main contributor.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
Those jags are important, man, they are. I also wonder
and cups getting the cup got cut. Yeah, you don't
have to do. That's what people were waiting for him.
They don't want to trade for him.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yeah, he's gonna add you watch Hilling up in Kansas
City and catch ninety balls. Watch we watched them, stop it,
you know that, something like our Cincinnati. Yeah, he'll they'll
go snatch him up and put him with Higgins. Yeah,
and pay him a little less money and he'll end
up catching ninety five balls in that offense.

Speaker 5 (40:51):
Good crazy. Send him to Joe Burrow, yeah, or just
bring him here to Houston.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
I'd be okay with that too.

Speaker 5 (40:59):
Yeah, he's gonna be So the new league year starts
on Wednesday, and if still no one trades him, he
will be released, yep, come Wednesday morning.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
So and why would you trade for him? Now? Why
would you just say let's go and negotiate a free
agent deal. See if we can get him the money,
he'll be different. He's not locked into a contract. They
cut him, you can go do your thing.

Speaker 5 (41:15):
Yeah and again, h Last year, free agency day one,
not a lot of moving for the Texans.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Today is day two.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
So we'll see if Nick Casario has anything cooking. Maybe
package one of those wide receivers in a pick and
go get some somebody else. I don't know what what
they've got playing, but it seems like they do have
a planet.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Again.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
If they do bring in and keep these, keep Braxon,
Barrios and Watson, it's gonna add more competitions to the
wide receiver room. John Metschi, Xavier Hudson got to elevate more.
Christian Kirk coming in, gotta learn it quick. Nico Collins,
we know he's gonna get his. But another thing, I
wonder what they're gonna do with tight hend cause Dalton
Schultz Cheltze, No Chltz there, Schultz No?

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Why not? You say Schultze learned how to block?

Speaker 8 (41:55):
Ee?

Speaker 1 (41:56):
So you'd think Schultze is not a great that doesn't
know how to block? Have you seen the tape? But
but give me, you know what his name is? Dalton Schultz? No, okay,
what if he caught a hundred balls? What would you got?
Who was like a mauler at tight end? What was it?
Schultz said, got your dog and you gotta play. But
he walks into the gate like like a half a mile.

(42:17):
You want to make sure everybody knows that. Yeah. I
don't think they're done at that position either. That's why,
that's why this draft just paramount to get assets for season.
Just go trade for Brock Bowers. Man, you know what
it would take to get Brock Bowers. Now you may
be able to get You may be able to go

(42:37):
get Meyer. Who mayor Michael Michael Mayer?

Speaker 5 (42:40):
Well, I think it's Mike. Isn't it pronounced Meyer Meyer?
I think he's related to John Mayer.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
He might be might be is it spelled Mayor? And
I can't remember how they pronounce it? Notre down. So
a good player, he just got beat out by a
better one, best young tight end the league, maybe the
best tight end patch pass catcher in the league right
now because he's Kelsey, but a younger version, faster and
better right now. I mean, yeah, Bowers is it. He's
the He's the straw that stirs and drink on that team.

(43:07):
He's a ship. Yeah, he sure is sure he knows
how to block. Uh no, No, he's not real big.
He's not a huge dude. He's a pass catcher. So
you may not be a maller at the life screams.
You'll need another one or two with that. But Schultz
did not elevate and he won't block me. Schultze, you're
the guy you love nicknames for Schultz?

Speaker 5 (43:28):
No, I like if he learned how to block. Yeah,
just gave me max effort.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
You know you mean, not the old block. Don't don't
be a matador.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
No, you don't know what about you, George straight exactly.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
He's a young talking about the bullfighter. Yeah, it's a matador.
What do they do when the bulls coming at him?
They laying get out of the way.

Speaker 5 (43:53):
Okay, said, you don't want that from your tier offensive,
but that's what we saw. Yeah, and even in the
playoff game. Don't be a matador. Okay, not good man.
We got no time for Swiss cheese offensive lines or defenses.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Swiss Cheese. Uh yeah, I like right through the Yeah,
but run right through the hole. It's apparently new defenses
the hole in the Swiss cheese. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
because there's holes in the Swiss sees. That makes sense.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Do you know what a young troubadour is?

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Huh? Went it wrote in on a song? Do you
know what? Do you know what a young true? Do
you know what a troubadour is?

Speaker 5 (44:22):
Yeah, it's better than a plowboy. Some would argue they don't. Well,
some would argue that a plowboys better some. Now, you
always have to figure out who that some are. Okay,
let's see what is a troubadour?

Speaker 1 (44:40):
I know what a troubadour is?

Speaker 5 (44:41):
Do you A troubadour is a composer and performer of
old lyric poetry during the High Middle Ages.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
He's singing you, singing it for me?

Speaker 5 (44:50):
Why is George? Why is he singing about French poets?

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Because he knows it? George George, George.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
George of the jungle, Remember that he that cartoon also
can be known as a person who writes and performs songs.
So there that's the second one. Young Tad, he's a
young rider and performer.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
He's like he's like the new Hudson Westbrook that's what.
Hudson Westbrook's a young troubadour.

Speaker 5 (45:15):
Is that Russell Westbrook's brother, No cousin, No is Hudson.
What's his name, hudd Westbrook? Is he white? Basic white guy? Yeah, okay,
well he's not related to Russe well you think, but
you know what he is. He's a young troubadour. So
was George Straight at the one point? So is the
King George Straight a young troubadour? Yeah, troubadour is matadors.

(45:36):
You want the troubadour. You don't want the matador unless,
of course you want the matador. Matador's got.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Yeah, but you don't want you want the matador if
he's actually moving away from bull from from bulls. Right,
you do not want that matador if you don't want
to be protecting your quarterback and you don't want to
be in the china shop with the bulls there. You know,
nothing worse than a bull in a china shop unless
it's got finesse, and this team had a lot of
that at the line.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
Yeah, give me beer drinkers, man. Yeah, you walking with
a Jans Sport backpack? You remember that brand?

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Hell? Yeah, JD Sport.

Speaker 5 (46:06):
I been you remember Jan Sport tripley. Yeah, yeah, you
said like Zach Brant, I do no tripley said it.
And then uh, you know you got Jan Sport. You
probably got some uh some coconut oil in there when
you go out to the beach. Get that smell of
coconut oil when you're with the zoid. Yeah, I'm picking
up what you're putting down. Yeah, especially for you man
living on the West.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
When I put it, when I put when I put
it on his when I put it on his back
and it gets caught in his hair, hair on his back.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
Yet, that'll make you horny. He man, I got breaking
on the way. I gotta go see y'all later.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
You want to give us an idea where you're eating? No,
uhh no freebies? No, no, but who's counting no delivery
for you this morning? So will it be fast food? No?
Actually no, it's not the hell out of here. What man,
it's definitely fasts one hundred fast food. That's fine, all right? Hey,

(46:59):
you know, as if this is gonna make you less tired,
it's gonna make a more bog carbohydrates down the guys.

Speaker 5 (47:05):
Let's get to the steak out next.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
Back to it h town, bring your own juice, bring
the Jews, let's go.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
The Sean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
I was definitely on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
All right, Sean, what are.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
You hearing out there now?

Speaker 4 (47:26):
The Salisbury's takeout, Salisbury takeout on.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
The Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Time for the steak out.

Speaker 5 (47:41):
Here on the Sean Salisbury Show, Sean Brown and Tripoli
Astros taking on the Mets twelve O five, the first pitch,
the Rockets one last night, take it. They played the
Magic Texans Trade Laramie Tons. All right, Sean, steakout question

(48:03):
Astros related Cam Smith another hit last night for the Stros.
He's swinging it exceptionally. Well, we've talked about him a lot.
My question to you for the steakout is, why are
people in this city, whether it's local media fan base,

(48:26):
why do they get so upset when you make not you,
but when people make a comment about Cam Smith potentially
making the opening day roster.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Well, they're either stuck in that box of there's only
one way to do it, or they're afraid of their
own shadow. They're more you see I see the glass different,
I see the glass. It's not what if he fails
mine's what if he's awesome, what if he's what if
he's the best outfielder on the team, what if he's
what if he's hitting in the middle of the order
and has success. It's not what if he fails. What
if he fails, Guess what, he's got a soft landing

(48:58):
spot in triple A, double A no problem. Alls I
know is he's doing what other guys aren't doing in
spring training, raking hitting. I don't have it. Listen.

Speaker 5 (49:08):
I can't explain to you why somebody's like, well man,
it's fragile.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
We can't do that.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
There's no what if he's we got to protect our
precious number one prospect? No, you got a number one
prospect plays that, especially if he's better than the veterans,
and if he struggles, there's a soft landing waiting on
him about ten miles twelve miles away from our studios.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Whatever that is, right, so easy to do. I don't
know why I think different than them. I will. You
can't convince me now if he was hitting two twenty
seven and he he didn't have command and it just
so it was running into one once a wall.

Speaker 5 (49:42):
Because he's physically gifted. But you could see that mechanically
he was struggling. To send him down, let him tune
it up. I don't see what they If that's the case,
I don't see that. Get him work, put him in
he should.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Two things that I would love to see, and I
would I would call it are three things. A successful
spring and siding lead into the season. One that they
come out not the guys who were hurt when they
got there, but then nobody left spring training banged up. Yeah,
that's one. Two is that Forest Whitley becomes a player? Yes?

Speaker 5 (50:13):
And three is that Cam Smith is a starter on
the Houston Astros. Yeah, without the panic of well fragile.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Listen. If you think like that, you'll never get ahead.
I guarantee he's not thinking like that. Don't worry about
the If you're worried about the physical, I wouldn't. If
you're worried about the mental reaction. If he struggles, I'd
tell you to get in line. Name me a player
who hasn't. I'd rather I just send him.

Speaker 5 (50:37):
Learn here around veterans that can say, dude, listen, it's fine.
Jeremy Pane has lived it. You want to go through
the list of guys who've lived, you know, struggling at
times and had people start to question if you.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Should be the guy. How do we know that's going
to happen? How do you know that he's just not
here for good? For me, give me those three things
coming out of spring I'll be really, really happy and
say those are some wins for the Texans.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
But you send him down just because you're if you
send him down because a production or you don't you know,
he's not ready one thing. If you send him down
and watch his play and I know it's spring training.
But if you send him down because you're scared, then
you just fall into the trap of thinking inside a bubble.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
I like to think outside the box. I'll stay inside
the box when necessary. This guy's got outside the box ability,
so why the hell do I got to stuff myself
in it?

Speaker 5 (51:24):
So I I tweeted out some stuff about Cam Smith
yesterday and I got a couple of responses.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
You'll also get the I know baseball, well, so what
I know baseball? Here's what you got to do, here's
what you got, And then they'll start giving you an
example of some guy that played in Pittsburgh, yeah, or something.
You're like they're not all the same. They start to
give you the baseball. Here's the way you gotta do
it's a there's a way to get it done. No,
there's actually not. There's more than one way.

Speaker 5 (51:48):
This is one of the responses. The extra year of
control is more pretty al right, be Doug, it's conversation.
Get sean choked up?

Speaker 9 (51:59):
Man?

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Yeah, well this conversation gets me my flagam out. Why
it's got to be gross to you to sit here
and see me cough this up? That's all right? At
this flagam out Because when I hear people mention one
year of control, it's all about it gets worse. Let's
help your control right up? Your exactly.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
No, uh, this guy tweeted, Uh, the extra year of
control is more critical. If you don't see that, you
aren't thinking like a baseball executive. Okay, dude, I'm not
thinking like a baseball executive. I don't give a damn
about an extra year of control when now you know
you know what else? Guess what I don't care about
all the time. Some are good, But guess what I
don't want to always think about like a baseball executive.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Yeah, water fact, quite.

Speaker 5 (52:35):
Frankly, i'd like to think other than I'm not talking
about just ours, I'm talking about any of them.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
I'd like some guy to actually, that's just it. You
want our politicians to always think like politicians. I sure
as hell don't know. Okay, I assure as hell don't.
There's a word for those people, okay, bad politicians And
there with a C and ends with a K, and
then there was, uh, yeah, well how that goes? So
But to me, it's yeah, you got to start thinking
like an executive. That's right, because the only way we

(53:00):
can survive baseball if you think like an executive. Yeah. Really,
there's another response I got.

Speaker 5 (53:04):
As great as he's been, we really shouldn't want him
to be on the roster.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Yet. In my response to that, if I was interviewing
that person would be why, yeah, exactly why If the
only answer you can give me is control, then then
you're thinking exactly like a baseball executive. Or but okay,
so what if Dana Brown and they decide to keep

(53:28):
him here? Is that all of a sudden there is
he a bad executive because he kept Cam Smith here?
Or is he a good one because he didn't allow
the rules quote unquote of baseball the way an executive
is supposed to do it. To think. I understand the
team stuff. You're protecting it. But my obligation to a
team in my mind is playing my best nine. Yeah,

(53:49):
and if he's ready, you play him. That's the way
it is. Yeah, I just stayed every day. I get
the time clock and that whole thing.

Speaker 5 (53:56):
You're the time clock. I get all that, right. But
here here's how, here's how you worry about the extra
your control. If he breaks the opening, if he breaks
camp and he's on the opening day roster. Let's see,
he has a decent year, and then he gets better
and better as time goes on.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
You lock him up. You you you you extend him exactly,
no doubt. I'm not. I'm not thinking your year at
the end. Because if he rakes, he's gonna get more money.
You're gonna want to keep him long term, So do it.
He's young, like you did Jordon. Right.

Speaker 5 (54:23):
I'm not saying control wise. I'm talking about the truth
is if you if.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Jordon was signing an extension now, how much more would
it be than when he signed his.

Speaker 5 (54:31):
Original Yeah it'd be you think, be massive. So I
just find an interesting man. This this camp Smith conversation
over the last week and a half two weeks. For
whatever reason, people were just so angry when you make
a take, when you when you say that there's a
chance that he could make the opening day roster, people
freak out.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Yeah, why would you want him? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (54:51):
Why?

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Who? Man? I don't need to hoard cam Smith. It's
a I get to that point. Listen, if it wasn't
for sports, that would you ever go on social media?
I like good, feel good stories about animals and the
rest of them, and we've developed a lot of great relationships.
But there are people, the majority of them are great people,
but you go on there one time and the second
you say something that they think different of, Oh my gosh,

(55:14):
the world's coming to And it's a simple opinion. And
quite frankly, if he doesn't make this roster and he's
the best outfielder you got not named Tosel too, that
he belongs and has earned the job, then I think
you're a fool for not keeping him up here.

Speaker 5 (55:25):
I still find it interesting that he has not played
outfield in spring training.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Yet, which may tell you that they're not going to
keep him right unless they just say, you know what,
we're gonna put him out there and let's go. Yeah,
just Jim Bowden.

Speaker 5 (55:40):
Yesterday we read the tweet that he put out that
he's gonna have yeah start right fielder to earn right field.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
But yet he played their base yesterday. And he's played
their base. And here's what I don't want. If he's
up here, you got to play him. Yeah, If he's
now here's where I did where I do think inside
the box. If you're not going to use him here
and you're going to be a plat tune guy once
in a while, didn't have him down a triple a
swing in the bat every day. If you're gonna play him,
let's go. Yeah. Don't worry about his don't worry about

(56:07):
the fragility of a personality. I don't think that's gonna
be a problem with this kid. Yeah, I don't. I
don't think so either.

Speaker 5 (56:12):
Seven one, three, five, sevenhineties the numbers to join us
roll along right here.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
On seven ninety, the Shawn Salisbury Show continued, If you
don't realize legalize, right, is that what you're saying?

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Yeah, we can go with that at six, yeah, six,
I feel like you're a smoke ring guy. No, I
don't smoke well.

Speaker 5 (56:40):
With with achieva. You take it in and it comes
right out the nose, right you as you blow it
out the nose, right after a nice deep breath fired up.
I know you wouldn't know anything about it. You never
thought about that. No, you never thought about that.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Maybe a gummy they hit that again triple he listen
to this out. Tell me this is some of your
buddies first thing they'd you in the morning. I'm guaran
as I got, buddy, I do, but rip it a
marble red at six am.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
That ain't no marble red, brother, Adrian. I got somebodies
that before they take their morning pee have hit the spliff.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
I can tell you that right now. That week back
and they just brushed their teeth with their fingernails anyway,
week week, week back, and they heard it a week back.
It's all behind him now, So that you know, take
a hit of the spliff, you know what I'm saying.
So like laying by the bedside, you hear that said.

Speaker 5 (57:32):
At six am, or like for you you're a fan
of like you wake up, just put a dip in.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
I had I had not lately been known to do it.
I had a first round offensive lineman on my team
at s C. I'll leave it out. Don't start guessing names. Okay,
because that he had a he had a bong about
as tall as he was. What and I'm telling you
you go to his crib. We go over there to
pick it up and go do something. I'm telling you

(57:58):
he you you could didn't even get a drink of
water in the morning before he I mean he had
he'd hit it and like he's still the first round,
but he could play his ass up to it was
his way to take away the pain and relaxation. Yeah,
missed class quite a bit, but hey, he was able
to stay all just smart enough to miss class and
still get things done. Once a week we'd make up

(58:19):
for it. But yeah, so you were six at a
phil Coins concert and you you were hitting on the chiba. Wow.
Nice bad example, But that's cool. Man.

Speaker 5 (58:33):
Tell your kids. Tell you those kids you coach that
she ain't good at six. They're probably listening right now.
That's why I'm saying tell you just telling me joking.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
I am joking. They're yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
Me to.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
I don't like smoke. It burns my throat, you know,
Smoke Rings in the Dark. Are smoke Rings in the dark?

Speaker 9 (58:55):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Gary?

Speaker 9 (58:55):
Who?

Speaker 1 (58:55):
You know Gary Allen is Yeah, he's the same one
who's he's watching airplanes?

Speaker 9 (59:00):
Is true?

Speaker 5 (59:00):
That is a good point. He does watch airplanes. So yeah,
he has a song called Smoke Rings in the Dark. Yeah,
you want to play that next year? You want to
save it?

Speaker 1 (59:07):
I don't even I can't remember how it's Saunds Smokings
and honest with you, I think I probably have if
it's you know, he's a y two country guy. Yeah
he is. Yeah, he's got some good cuts. Man.

Speaker 5 (59:16):
Yeah he does kind of underrated in my opinion. But
you wouldn't know anything about underrated, you know, you just you.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
I just completely disrespect you do Collins? Yeah, you thought
he was a guitar player. Watch That's what really cut
me deep. He said, Oh, Sean, Yeah, he's song acoustics,
so Phil Collins. No, he's a percussionist, okay, is he? Yes?
What's Don Henley? Percussionists and a front man at the
same time. It's impressive to do at the same time.

(59:43):
What Joe Walsh guitar?

Speaker 5 (59:46):
Yeah, front man, no, sidekick, Well, his own gig, but
don't even like he was.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
I love Joe Walsh, one of the greatest Hall of
Fame array of people with he and Fry and and
him Yeah, him too. O really good at really good
at it yeah. Or Channing Tatum Tatum, Yeah, really good
at it. Yeah. So yeah, I got Channing Crowder. He's
got a good show. I like Channing Crowder. Good player too.

(01:00:12):
It was a good player in his day. It was
pretty good. Yep. Seven seven nighties and number to join.

Speaker 9 (01:00:17):
What's up, Andy, Well, finally we got rid of Kunzl.
You know you guys, remember you guys know what I
think about the guy?

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
No, we don't, Andy, what do you think about him?

Speaker 9 (01:00:29):
Yeah, well it's documented, so we don't have to go there. Hey, uh, Sean,
you said something about when you were talking about Watson
and Barrios. Both those guys could be sneaky, uh, both
of them for four speed. I don't think neither of
them was utilized to what they're capable of from their

(01:00:51):
former teams in Burrios. Hell, he hadn't been on a
good team his whole career. So yeah, I like to
bring those two guys in and and I'll tell you
what this Taylor guy. We've got the best rotation at
the defensive end in the league Hunter Anderson Barnett and
this Taylor kid sixty five games played but he's only

(01:01:13):
started thirteen games. He's got twenty four sacks, twenty five
tack for losses, and forty three quarterback hits Keith a
legit rotation defensive end.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
So really deep there, Andy, They've they've got They've got
guys who can go get the quarterback and play. They're
their defense is close to being built now. They just
got to go execute and stay healthy.

Speaker 9 (01:01:36):
Yeah, they need They need to either sign Edwards or
Mati Counsey because both of those are free agents. So I,
you know the rank. I thought they were just gonna
sign both of them back. But I understand bringing ranking
back on a seven million dollar deal. That's that's that's
that's a good contract. But they got to sign one

(01:01:59):
of those two guys. And uh yeah, I look for
him to look for a guy that this this uh
this guard from the coach called Will Fries. You guys
know anything about him?

Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
Yeah, good player, you're talking about the interior guard. Yes,
he's a good player.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
We're talking. Let's talk about him with another buddy. The
other day. Very solid. Uh outside of football world, a
lot of people won't know who he is. But really
good player and uh.

Speaker 9 (01:02:23):
Yeah, get yeah, he had he snapped his tibia last year. Yep, healthy,
so it's gonna so you're gonna get him. You know,
he was a seventh And what you were talking about
earlier about the guys you won on the offensive line,
you don't want the mentality that tunns Will had all
touns of Remember when he signed that contact said, oh

(01:02:43):
I want to be the leader of the offensive line.

Speaker 10 (01:02:46):
B s.

Speaker 9 (01:02:46):
It was a bunch of craft. And I told you guys,
it was a bunch of craft. The guy is in
one thing, making as much money as he can and
that's it. This real fries kid jacket in the seventh round.
Most starts his first year were nine starts, seventeen starts
in twenty three, had five stars when he got hurt
last year and some of the stuff I read said

(01:03:08):
that he was playing some of the best guard in
the NFL when he got when his leg got snapped.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Jay, he's a really solid, good player, man, there's no doubt.

Speaker 9 (01:03:19):
Yes, somebody who's hungry, who's trying to prove themselves, that's
who you won't on your offensive line.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Yeah, what a novel concept. Huh yeah, a novel concept.

Speaker 9 (01:03:29):
One of those drinkers, he won't five guys when they're through,
they grabbed the other five guys that are their backups
and they're all eating steak and drinking beer on Monday.
That's who you won't as an offensive line.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
I can guarant ask to you that's the case. I
don't need a white wine spritzer offensive line. Okay, that's
what I don't need.

Speaker 9 (01:03:49):
Hey, y'all are talking about tight end. So right now
they have what Stover Schultz and they resigned Reverend Jordan
did that correct? Okay, so that's their three guys. Can
you stand pat with that?

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Uh? Well, who's Dalton Schultz gonna be in twenty twenty.
You're gonna have to if you get you need you
need some control at the line of scrimmage in the
run game. Uh, Dalton Schultz, we've seen him real good
and we've seen him average. I can't have the same
Dalton Schultz I had last year. I love the tight
end position because it creates so many mismatches. Right now,
he doesn't create enough mismatches. He's got to get better.

(01:04:27):
So if there's a tight end out there that I
could get that would upgrade that. If you're asking me
because there's a position need upgraded, that's an absolute yes.
Whatever that means either depth or at the very top.

Speaker 9 (01:04:38):
But here's dual. If it's at the top, then you've
got to try to trade soules.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Yeah, you're gonna get what a sixth round pick form
or something possibly fifth round?

Speaker 9 (01:04:47):
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, but you understand what I'm saying,
I do because he's yeah, he's good enough to be
catch fifty to sixty balls a year. So if you're
gonna if you're gonna swing for a guy to be
your number one or grab one in the first or
second round to possibly be that, you're gonna have to
trade him.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Yeah, And who knows, maybe there's maybe that's next on
their agenda as they accumulate these assets. But we're going
to find out soon. I think he knows. The problem
is if you're gonna get rid of him, what's out
there to go get and what can you trade for?
That's a problem. But uh, if they have a plan,
If they have a plan, but there's also got to
be there got to be some accountability in Dalton. Schultz

(01:05:28):
needs to elevate his game if he's here, he just
absolutely does.

Speaker 9 (01:05:32):
And you know what slow it. You know you always say,
and this is true, you have to put players in
position so they can succeed. If you're counting on Schultz
to be a good blocker, you've already messed up as
an offensive coordinator because he's not a good blocker.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
He can't block you, Andy, he can't block you.

Speaker 9 (01:05:52):
You know, Oh, well he couldn't block me at sixty three. Yeah,
he couldn't block.

Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
Me, babe in sixty five, three hundred Andy, nobody blocking you, son?

Speaker 9 (01:06:02):
Well, well, well with my knees, yeah, you can probably
block me right now.

Speaker 5 (01:06:06):
But we gotta go. And he got to get to
preak appreciations. Always man, ain't nobody blocking big Andy. That's
big a dog.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Andy and his he you give him three then he
you gave him three bills. Yeah I thought Andy was
three twenty five. Yeah, I thought Andy was three twenty five. Okay,
So my suggesting to you is.

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
Suggestion, what twenty five pounds of flower flowers should I say?

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I love Andy. I'm
not sure. I'm not sure that Old Schultz could block him. No,
he ain't blocking me, blocking you? I would trade him.
Is he blocking you? He'll probably kick your ass? I
mean soft soft, be got soft. I mean look at
the tail you're good. Check the tape you are, you're
going to It's like a boxing back. Here's a tell

(01:06:53):
t let's see what you got. Dold Shoults six five forty.
Who he's kicking you?

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
I got ten pounds on him, and he's got about
three inches of height on him on me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
The probably who's got better football? I q him definitely.
Who's uh, Who's Who's who? Do you think is the bigger?

Speaker 5 (01:07:10):
I'd kick him straight in his knee. So you're that
kind of player? Yeah, No, not player. We're talking fighting.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
You're at a three point stance, or you'll I'll let
you stand up on the edge. Wait and you get
to the quarterback, you get into the quarterbackers, Shultz gonna
control your bitch. He's control me. I've never done any
drill like that. I played.

Speaker 5 (01:07:29):
I played stuff that made you had to be athletic.
You can't just be some big.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
You're trying to tell me. Then, edge rushers not know
the edge rushers are for something big goofy lineman, somebody
well in order to be well, if you that's the
guy who can't block, right, the guy who's his feet
and can block. That's yeah. I need a guy who
can thump you exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:07:56):
And you need guys that drink beer. Me tons will
walk the red carpet with his designer shirts and handbags.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
If you're a gut coach or Louis Vuitton, you want
no part of that all. No, you can wear your
Louis Vuitton all you want. You don't want to know
Travis Scott Jordan's and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:13):
Yeah, carrying a little handbag with your little uh, your
little Yeah, I'd rather coming with a designer fanny pack.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Carol purse with the with the strap around your wrist.
What are you, Caleb Williams? Is that is that the
kind of guy you want? No? Or do you want
to backpack wearing this? Comes in ready to go with
with us? You can you can boots on when he
rolls up, and you can wear toes to the game
some Tims's Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 5 (01:08:40):
Yeah, wear your designer all you want, right, But I
want to see like when you're in your off season
or when you're private time. I want to see you
shotgun in a couple of beers. You know who else
I want to see who?

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
I hate to say this, but in practice not all
the time, but I want you to be the guy
that the coach kicks off the field because you're wearing
a guy out. Yeah, exactly, because oop in someone's ass.

Speaker 5 (01:08:58):
That's the guy I want. I'm not serious. I've had enough.
The showers. Early like we had.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Our buddy, my buddy Keith Millard, who was a defense
NFL player, a defensive Player of the Year one year
as well. Mal would get so pissed it at our
at our defensive coach, another player. There's time, he just
he want to fight the defensive coordinator, Floyd Peterson. Floyd
was about as big as him. To the old school
tough asshold a mallar and they go at it. Now,

(01:09:26):
get up, pop in his SUV drive he'd leave.

Speaker 5 (01:09:29):
He wouldn't see you kill The next day, give me
the old come back, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Everybody loved it. And then on Sunday he would tear
your dog on heart out to you. Give me one
of those I'm with you. You used to laugh for
a vous pissed off today. This is gonna be a
fun one. There'll be fights everywhere. It was awesome. Need
some of those guys get awesome. Absolutely, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:09:48):
Let's continue to discussion next on the Seawann Salisbury Show.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
This is the Sewan Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
There's a plan, I I assure you. The plan isn't
to get rid of Tons and just go with what
you got. There is a plan. Whatever that plan is,
I'm sure they're working it and they'll plan that work
and work that plan. I'm all four. I'm all for
this move. How about you? And now as you look
ahead with a third, a second, a third, a fourth,
and a seventh, I think it's Texans. I think the

(01:10:22):
Texans bamboozled Washington. Yet because of Washington's needs, I think
Washington's doing a sneaky, unbelievable off season job right now
to bolster their team. Tons will upgrade their offensive line.
And if he does, see I would I'd have a
different take on this if the penalties and the off
season plan for him were different. Ball snap, good player,

(01:10:42):
and I'll take that, But the penalties put your team
in a mind so you better play well when the
ball snap because you put us at second and fifteen.
That's a problem. Now Washington gets a chance to try
and fix that, and if they do, they'll have a
whorl and he'll he'll get another big contract because his
reputation right now may actually be better than the Pro
Bowl player. But he's a good player, not a great one.

(01:11:03):
He's a good one, really good one. And you need them,
and I'm sure Washington's I think they've upgraded and Debo
Samuel and adding you know, Javon Kinlaw. They're doing a
hell of an offseason job like the Rams are too.
The Rams are going to be the biggest threat to
the to the Philadelphia Eagles in the NFC, and Detroit
and Washington aren't far behind. And so but here to

(01:11:24):
get those assets to couple them with some of the
other things you got going on, They have a plan,
So don't worry. So what are we gonna do? What
are we gonna do? We have Tunzel, there's a plan.
And I assure you if I can be below average
with Tunsel, I can be below average with him without him.
Should I say they'll be better next year? They just
will at that position, meaning the five guys. When I
say that position, I'm talking about the group of offensive line.

(01:11:45):
We'll come back take your calls. Do you like the deal?
It's kind of a two thing. We'll go football baseball.
Do you like the deal with tunseel? And do you
right now? If you were the general manager Dana Brown
and Joe A. Spada and training camp or spring training
ended today, would Cam Smith be on your major league roster?

(01:12:06):
And in the starting lineup you get your choice a
left tackle or a possible right fielder. Which one you want?
Two teams that are hopefully head in the right direction.
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Speaker 5 (01:13:03):
Rockets beat the Magic last night ninety seven eight excuse me,
eighty four Texans traded their left tackle Lermie Tunzel's into
the eight o'clock hour. Seven one three, two one two
five seven ninety is the number to join. Let's get

(01:13:25):
out to the phone lines. Talk to our guy, Brandon.
What's up, Brando, good morning.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
I was watching the audio last night.

Speaker 5 (01:13:32):
Good for you, man, How was it good? That's good.
It's on your mind this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Morning, locket.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
I watched some of it.

Speaker 5 (01:13:44):
Yeah they won, Brandon. Ninety seven eighty four was a final?

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Yeah, I heard you. I will repeat it.

Speaker 6 (01:13:53):
That's what you what this what?

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
Watch you.

Speaker 11 (01:13:58):
What you just said on the score?

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:14:02):
Uh huh yeah yeah they're talking about the final score, right, Brandon, Yeah, yeah,
uh huh ninety seven eighty four.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
Hey, we're gonna miss you at.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Thank you, Brandon. I appreciate it. I miss everybody. There's
no doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
When you come, come see you, when you at the rodeo, when.

Speaker 5 (01:14:22):
You you have time, Okay, Me, Sean and TRIPLEY, we're
all gonna come by and see you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Sound good? Who Triple who, Triple G. Yeah, I'm with
you all.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
Right, Brando, have a good day, buddy too, got Brandon, man, Yeah, ready.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
You have do you even have a right there.

Speaker 5 (01:14:41):
What do you mean to our own boots? What kind
of boots? Cowboy boots? Of course, I don't believe you
don't have any boots.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
I don't know cowboy boots, motorcycle boots, like three hundred
dollars something. Oh yeah, little hiking boots, tims, I own
them all. Yeah, I got hiking boots now, yeah, a
little you know, fishing. Yeah, I got to you know,
like some Swede like dress boots, dress boots.

Speaker 5 (01:15:04):
So yeah, so you have swayed booties, is what you're saying,
Like what the chicks wear. No, that's pretty cool man, No,
just different, just good swed masculine boots. You wear jeans
and a sports coat and button up shirt. That's what
I got. Blue shoes, No, they're deep deep chocolate or
like brown. And I got a black bear as well. Okay,
you know you don't want to wear black strapped watch

(01:15:26):
with brown shoes. No, you know what I'm saying. You
got to match them up. So you want a brown
belt with black shoes?

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
Triple G. No cowboy boots huh No, square, I don't have.

Speaker 12 (01:15:34):
Yeah, I don't have those specific I know what boots
y'all are talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
But I don't have those.

Speaker 12 (01:15:38):
Yeah, but I got the little fishing butts, you know,
you on you cut the grass in and you know,
do everything else.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
You talking about the Nike grass grass grippers.

Speaker 5 (01:15:46):
Yeah, okay, you said some square toes for them.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't have no square toes. I
do not.

Speaker 12 (01:15:53):
I need to get some now that I'm a text,
I need to get some sore.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
Your big square toe guy, yeah, kicks your field goals
at those two. I ain't wearing rounded ones.

Speaker 5 (01:16:04):
Some people like this this the I'm definitely not wearing
the pointing to the boots are too.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Thin on the pointy toes or not what the width
is there?

Speaker 5 (01:16:14):
So I don't mind the I don't mind the I
don't know what they call the the actual name for
them are but the round, the medium, the one the tweeters,
you know, the one the little round off at the end,
got square around and then the pointed toe. Yeah, but
it just depends on what you wear. Those those pointed
to make your feet look like you tell me the
ones that come to a point. I don't like about

(01:16:36):
the one that's bigger than Spanish, I mean it is.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
They like curl up at the end. You know what
I think when I see those.

Speaker 5 (01:16:40):
That's what I go down then Escapade off.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
No, you know what I also think. I also think
the grich turtles are. Yeah, the square toes are. The
square toes are obviously popular.

Speaker 5 (01:16:56):
We gotta get We got to get some of those
pointy boots, man, Seals.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Why don't you wearing those boots? Hey? Man, we got
them for you for Christmas? Man, we even told you
for l we we got him. Well, we actually got
him engraved with your name and.

Speaker 5 (01:17:09):
It was just look at this Esco peep this Susi
on there too, man, disrespect Seals.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
Yeah, we gotta go down to the Escapade. Man.

Speaker 5 (01:17:16):
It's off of fifty nine, right next door to Stampede. Man,
that's really it's a bar. Yeah yeah, it's like a
dance hall.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
We had ours was called after Dark, Yeah, yeah, ad
we called it. Yeah. Man, Hey, have you seen some
of those pinty boots? Dude? They get crazy. Man, Well,
you gotta have a you gotta have a the Wii.
Your shoes like the with your toe, I mean you
kind of squeeze them. Yeah, good boots though, Triple We

(01:17:44):
gotta get him, so, you know, I gotta get him.
So maybe that'll be again.

Speaker 5 (01:17:47):
Maybe I'll do what a quarterback does with his offensive line.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Yeah, damn rights, damned rights?

Speaker 5 (01:17:54):
Is this are these like like? These are like real,
like dudes actually wear like look at these things, man
with the point.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Pill plenty towel. I don't get them. They look so
I mean, I've tried them on just to see way
too uncovered. Like I said, tell me that if they
played them green, that that's not the Grinch's boots. Now
they curl up at the edge.

Speaker 5 (01:18:11):
I gotta know, man, we have a lot of the
Hispanic community that listens to us here on the Shawn
South here Masco Pete. I want to know do they
do you guys actually wear whoa? You guys? I'm from
mescal right, yeah, you guys. I want to know, do
you guys whoa?

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Whoa? You guys? Why do we keep using that terminal?
You guys?

Speaker 5 (01:18:31):
You mean the history of any of our listeners from
the Hispanic from the Hispanic community where those super pointy
boots cowboy boots?

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Is that a real thing?

Speaker 5 (01:18:42):
Let me pick up my photocol about twenty five of
my whole boy say hey, dude, come on here, and
just to defend what I'm telling you that my peeps
like to wear these plenty tail cowboy boots. Yeah, I
just I want to know. I want to know do
people actually wear those? What did Lebomba wear in their group?
Is that what you're saying. That's what you're basically saying,

(01:19:02):
La Bamba, do they have one? Those are my people?

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Manla Bamba.

Speaker 5 (01:19:08):
You've never rolled up into these streets of the mean
streets of Esco.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Have you? No? Am I missing out? Excuse me? Kind
of hurts me. It kind of hurts me that you
you don't care about the mean streets Esco. It really
does hurt me. Yeah, we're pretty deep, man. I just
don't understand how, like, well, what's the in Tripoli to
stay away? Man? You people like you? Guys? Say you
people like me and my escal peeple. I don't say people, man,

(01:19:34):
Briano does.

Speaker 5 (01:19:35):
Oh, here we go, Here we go? You people, I'd
never say that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
Are you're looking up? You're looking for the pointy toil booth.
You're gonna get some of my gil There he goes.
Where's he been? Where is gil Ben? Gilbert? Where was
he Ben? Yeah? Man, don't even answer gil keep gill
on hold for a few minutes. He heard our feelings.

Speaker 5 (01:19:53):
Man, he literally hasn't called us like two months.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Man, are you tired of your feelings? Hurt?

Speaker 5 (01:19:57):
I am yeah, yeah, rights man, Yes, man, I bet
you Gil has a pair. I gotta know, man, I
bet you Gill has.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
What they look like?

Speaker 5 (01:20:06):
Send me the picture all you have to google. Just google, Yes,
pointy toe cowboy boots, Mexican pointy boots. I don't think
that's the name of them, the Mexican pointy boots.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Look, I mean, look it also look. It also comes up.

Speaker 5 (01:20:23):
No, it says Mexican curly boots, funny Mexican boots, Mexican
curved boots.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
So Mexican pointy boots. Yeah, dude, I'm just trying to
tell you. I grew up my town had the people
have them all over the place at escoll Just you
call them Mexican pointy boots. That's what.

Speaker 5 (01:20:39):
I have never seen a white dude wear these. So
I've never seen a white dude.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
I've never worn either. But my guy's back in the
ESCO put them on every now, and like.

Speaker 5 (01:20:49):
I can't, like, I can't tell if this is like
a I or if this is like a legit picture
kind of a text mex move of a dude wearing these,
Like is this legit?

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
Or did they like edit this picture? Like look at
this guy. They're serious, dude, you're like editing a picture
because again, no, I'm serious.

Speaker 9 (01:21:03):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:21:04):
See now this one, this is one hundred like this
is yeah, this one's edited, but this other one, like
I think this is legit, you know. And when I
was in Alpine, like there's a large Hispanic community community
out there, and there were some dudes that used to
rock these, and I.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
Just I don't know, man, you gotta love it. Dude,
that's got to be uncomfortable to me. It is. I'm
genuinely asking, that's my peeps. I can't I can't do it. Man.
It's just size fifteen and pointy boots, isn't looking way, dude?

Speaker 9 (01:21:29):
Now?

Speaker 5 (01:21:29):
Just size fifteen in a Buddha is crazy? Anyways, Man,
all right, let's talk to Gill. He hadn't been around
in a while. Gil, where you been, dude?

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
So much going on, so much, so much, so much
in disrespect, ilieving man.

Speaker 9 (01:21:42):
My hours changing, I don't have to be somewhere to
ten o'clock, so I'm sleeping a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Wow.

Speaker 11 (01:21:47):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (01:21:48):
Yeah, I mean every once in a while, I'll I'll
wake up in time, get my car and then I like, woy.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
How about that? But the dude decides to sleep in
on us. Man.

Speaker 10 (01:21:58):
Wow, you're right?

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
Wow? You know how So does the Mexican community wear
those boots? They do in my town.

Speaker 10 (01:22:06):
Only in certain parts of little clubs called pony bars.
They still for some reason, they still wearing the white
boots and the white belts and the white hat. And
yeah they're a little pointing and he cast six.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Dollars for a little Do you have you have all those? Gilbert?

Speaker 10 (01:22:24):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Why not?

Speaker 9 (01:22:27):
My dad was My dad was born in nineteen twenty five.
He never owed a pearod safety.

Speaker 10 (01:22:34):
Now, if you go to Mexico, they're probably all over there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
But I don't I know Tijuana they'll build sport them
once a while, because I you know, that's that's not
far from where Ijuana.

Speaker 8 (01:22:45):
No.

Speaker 9 (01:22:45):
I just heard from somebody calling it, Brian, you're leaving.

Speaker 5 (01:22:49):
Yeah, yep, Thursday's my last day. It was my choice.
I'm deciding to leave. Let me get that out there.
This was my decision. Where no one else is.

Speaker 9 (01:22:56):
Where the heck are you going?

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Better than this place. I'm going to Hockeley Man, and
it's not.

Speaker 5 (01:23:03):
Yeah, and it's not. He's not leaving because he doesn't
love the show.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
No, that's yeah, this was my decision. That's it.

Speaker 9 (01:23:10):
You have a podcast or something, it has nothing to
do with media.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Now I'm going back to oil and gas. And it
was my.

Speaker 10 (01:23:19):
Money.

Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
Yeah, exactly, that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm going to
make more money. But yeah, you'll see me on hockey,
big dog. So let's meet up.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 11 (01:23:26):
We I don't have That's why I don't have to
get up sort.

Speaker 6 (01:23:30):
I don't have to go to hockey anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
You're not going to station anymore?

Speaker 9 (01:23:34):
No, absolutely not. No, that's that's when I drawed the last,
you know what, A whole year of waking up at
five o'clock.

Speaker 13 (01:23:41):
In the morning, coming home sometimes at nine, nine.

Speaker 10 (01:23:43):
Thirty because it's such as drive is not.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
What a quitter I know.

Speaker 9 (01:23:49):
I don't know, I.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
Nick, We appreciate it, Gil, wake your euse up earlier, man. Yeah,
come on, I'm.

Speaker 9 (01:23:57):
Going to definitely get up early the rest of this
week for the last till Thursday at least.

Speaker 5 (01:24:01):
There you go Thursdays is last day. Yeah, Thursday will
be my last day here. Appreciate you. Yeah, you too
said dad was born early. Wear a pair you love it.
But hey, the show must go on. The show is
going to roll on. Of course, you guys are going
to dominate as usual. Yeah, just won't be the same
without you, It won't be the show. But you guys come.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
On six to ten. We'll be sitting in his chair kicking.
I asked, But it's you know, it's it's it'll be.
It won't be the same. Chemistry is hard to build, man,
You got to work to build it. Ours is natural.
Sometimes it takes a little longer to build it. Yeah,
it was. It's going a bummer, man, But I understand
why you go out there and there's it's a career

(01:24:44):
you're familiar with. Become familiar with this. You can always
come back to this, Always have a seat, and then
go out there a chance to build your at the
age now, you want to build a solid it's a
solid financial foundation.

Speaker 5 (01:24:56):
Man, Completely understand. Maybe then I can start, well, completely understand.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
I got you.

Speaker 5 (01:25:01):
Hey, whoever sits in the seat, they'll they'll they'll they'll uh,
they'll do a good job.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
You'll build your chemistry. It'll be great.

Speaker 11 (01:25:06):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
We'll go through a handful of uh you know, we'll
go through just like you do any process and figure
out how how it all fits and the.

Speaker 5 (01:25:12):
Show goes on. Man, it'll roll on. Hey, uh, I
saw some callers call in Tripley. What do we got
Johnny and Arthur talking about the boots? Yeah, they call
kicker boots kicker boots. Yeah, okay, but did they they
say they had any They said that everybody wore them
like white and Hispanics and I.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
Have not this boy, No, they're they're kicker boots.

Speaker 12 (01:25:34):
He said, that's another name for them. That's what they're.
That's another instead of you know, the pointy boots or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
The white boy.

Speaker 5 (01:25:40):
I have the ones that I'm talking about, the ones
that I just showed Sean. No, dude, I've never seen
a white guy wear those ever.

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
Ever. That's why I was curious, man, Like, I don't
know if U, but you've made it really known you
hate whitey. If you've emphasized that a lot, you just
hate whitey. Triple Am I right or wrong? I'm saying how
many times he said that in our post? Mean I
hate Whitey right of you said her, You said yesterday
Whitey stock was down. Yeah, Whitey stock is down. What

(01:26:09):
I get your disdain for Whitey? What's going on? What
will you are? You?

Speaker 5 (01:26:12):
Are you training for something today? Like full sweatsuit today?
Yesterday it was golf a tire at ninety percent of
the time, it's golf tire. You look like you're about
to go train with Apollo creed.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
Uh gray hooded sweatshirt, gray gray sweat, great cotton, uh
jogger sweats and uh yeah I've been today, you know,
just a little little uh uh t matt hat uh
huh to match the cardinal. You know, he got a
little maroon undershirt v neck underneath the sweatshirt with the
maroon and black hat with the gray. Yeah, it's it

(01:26:44):
still matches up. Yeah, I uh know. I'm just I
just wanted to be a little cozy today, you know,
no golf today. Got stuff to do, beautiful day to day.
What I know, I may go hit balls, but I
gotta gotta balls, you know, off the rain balls. Yeah, yeah,
I got stuff to do. Man, It's it sucks because
we're finally geting. This gonna be a beautiful day. So
beautiful night last night. So you got a little change

(01:27:04):
up pitch for me. But you know it works. Just
ask me. Just asked me, it works. Yeah, I walked.
I was like, man, you're about to go jog. I'm
good stairs. I feel like for those who watched what's
the uh Harrison Ford where he's a well, he's a
jack when he's on a naval academy giving a speech

(01:27:29):
and he just gets done's visiting with I think it
was Sam Jackson and he's walking across the campus and
there's those guys are trying to take him out because
they know who he is. Jack Ryan, Jack Ryan, the
Jack Ryan Tom Clancy movies and that guy standing by
the paper where you pick up the paper and he
open up the paper machine like they used to have

(01:27:50):
on street corner, and he was wearing like Jones. No,
I'm not talking about Indiana Jones.

Speaker 5 (01:27:56):
Jack Ryan is the blade Runner, No, the Fugitive. No
talk about a movie or a show movie Force one. No,
it's like Clear in Present Danger.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
That might be the one. That's it. It's the Tom Clancy.
He's done a couple of Tom Clancy Clear and Present
Danger where he's walking across man that they had a
full gray sweatsuit on.

Speaker 5 (01:28:14):
That's who I am. Yeah, yeah, that's clear and clear
and yeah. It's based on Tom Clancy's nineteen eighty nine
novel Yep. This one director novel Philip Noise.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
If you don't like six hundred and seven hundred page books,
don't read Tom Clancy. If you do, great books to
read in great movies. I got you got the look
grey Hoodie ready to go? Yeah. Oh, Willem Dafoe is
in that movie. Yeah, Bill Defoe, Awesome, Here we go.
Was that Sam Jackson too? No, Okay, then it's a
different one that I'm thinking, Well, he's got done two
or three of them. It's a Jack Ryan.

Speaker 5 (01:28:44):
Character where he's that guy Harrison fordak clar in Present Danger.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Yeah, you're talking about Samuel L. Jackson. Sam Jackson, I
call those of us in the industry called games. That's
that could be the other one that maybe? Yeah, jack
right another Clancy? Yeah, there you go. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 5 (01:29:02):
This one was also directed by Philip Noys and based
on Tom Clancy's nineteen eighty seven novel Yep. Check that out, man,
there's your can knowledge for the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
You're ready to go? Shut it? Down.

Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
Let's go home. Ready to go, Let's go. A good
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I like it.

Speaker 5 (01:31:15):
Jeff Green also getting some run nineteen minutes, nine points.
Cam Whitmore two minutes in the game. What it's kind
of weird, man, you see you know, obviously he.

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
Was peple thought he was destined for greatness.

Speaker 5 (01:31:27):
I love Cam Whitmore as a player, man you did,
or do I do? Jabari Smith was hurt, so Cam
Whitmore got more playing time, he played well, and then
you know, Jabari Smith comes back. You see little bit
of minutes here and there for Cam Whitmore than last
night too. I mean, I'm gonna trust he may udoka,
but uh, I don't know. I don't know what the

(01:31:48):
future looks like for uh, Cam Whitmore on this team.

Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
At least he may knows.

Speaker 5 (01:31:52):
I mean, if there's a reason he's not getting run,
you know, two minutes, there's a reason.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
I'm gonna trust that as well, just like you said.

Speaker 5 (01:31:59):
Yeah, and with Cam Whitmore, you see two minutes, eight minutes,
seven minutes back against Oklahoma City, he played forty minutes,
had twenty seven points.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
That was on March third, so eight days ago. Yeah,
think about twenty seven and eleven and then all this
couple weeks later was that when March what that was
March third, So that's a week later, Yeah, eight days ago,
and uh and then two minutes run last night situational basketball.
I guess.

Speaker 5 (01:32:31):
Forty minutes crazy twenty seven and eleven against Okay See, yep,
watch watch Oklahoma City get the one scene and get
beaten like the second round. Tough, isn't it? Triple e
You see that Oklahoma City. I said, if if Oklahma
City gets the one seed, they lose the second week.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
Losing in about the Western Conference finals again like last year. Yeah,
they ain't losing in the first No, first round, They're
gonna They're gonna boat race whoever they play in the
first round.

Speaker 5 (01:32:55):
Yeah, Jay Gilgess, Alexander's really really.

Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
Good, man, that's sure. That's your sure VP this year.
Hondok just having a better year than he's had statistically,
and he's won what three of them? Yep, another triple
double for that cat. He's been unbelievable. But Shay Gildess,
Alexander's played great basketball. He did best player, best team
in the in the West. He deserves it.

Speaker 5 (01:33:15):
Yeah, and jolkisch Man, dude, he is Yeah, yeah, I
just what however you want to describe him, he just
continues to be.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
I can describe him as really good.

Speaker 5 (01:33:28):
Just consistently, just one of the best every single freaking year.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:33:33):
The other night, Sean thirty one point twenty two assists,
twenty one rebounds.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
Only time in history it's ever happened thirty thirty, I
mean thirty twenty twenty. He has been fantastic and he
he you put him up there, he's in the team picture.
If not the best of passing big men of all time,
Bill Walton was one of the best I ever saw
do it. Hell, Abdul Jabbar was a pretty damn good passer.
But and Walton maybe that's the John Wooden understanding angles

(01:33:57):
and being unselfish. But is as good as we've ever
had as a big man getting people the ball in
the right spot. He's really good at him. Man, he's
got point guard when it comes to just vision and
how to get it to him. He's got that point
guard skill set. I mean now, I think the most
assists we've ever had in a game was like thirty

(01:34:18):
or so Scott Skiles, and that's a true point guard,
So which is a lot of assists. I think Kevin Porter,
the other Kevin Porter used to play with the Troy Pitts,
had himself pushing thirty at.

Speaker 5 (01:34:32):
Times when he had I think mid twenties at one point.
But I'm sure Stockton had twenty plus at some point,
and Irvin Johnson. But Nikola Jokyz is a senter is
one of the very best we've ever had it distributing
to basketball. For a guy who can get you thirty
hand out twenty plus and go get twenty plus rebounds,
pretty special. Never happened before in NBA history, which is
shocking but fact. And I'll tell you who else was

(01:34:53):
really good.

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
I don't know if it's the Laker thing, but Will
Chamberlain was an athletic, pretty good passing.

Speaker 5 (01:34:57):
Big man as well too, so really really good ones.
And he can get down to West unseeld who was
a great outlet guy. And Dave Cowens, I mean there
was We've had some good ones, but no better than
the Nicola jokicch Bill Walton types were really good at
their gig there. Scott Skiles thirty assists December thirtieth, nineteen
ninety The Magic beat the Nuggets one fifty five. Have
a list of the top assist games ever, Let's see

(01:35:21):
Skyles John Stockton twenty eight. I said I thought he
got closer because Kevin Porter's name on there anywhere. Let
me look, John Stockton's got the Let's see Scott Skyles.
The first one and then two, three and four is
all John Stockton no shock, Let's see nope, me he's.

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
Not never got twenty plus. Huh, you'd have to go way.
Let's see.

Speaker 5 (01:35:46):
Kevin I wonder iful guy like Dave Bing or Irvin
Johnson on there? Magic probably bet Johnson's on here. Stockton
was impressive.

Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
Well, you know about Fat Lever. Fat Lever was a
Portland trailblazer, Uh, Denver nugget? Should I say Fat Lever?
Dan Issel Alex English.

Speaker 5 (01:36:07):
Mookie who was getting triple doubles back in the day,
Mookie Blaylock's Racuse guy.

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
If I'm not mistaking Nick van Exell van x Lakers.

Speaker 5 (01:36:14):
Yeah, University of Cincinnati. Hell of a player, but none.
I mean, Stockton was so good. Magic Johnson is still
the best point guard. But that day by Scott Skiles
was nothing that was phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
Let's see George McLeod.

Speaker 5 (01:36:28):
Another Indiana pacer. George McLeod, Yeah, Florida State guy. If
I'm not mistaken, if I'm a wealthy ustass knowledge, George
McLeod was a Florida State U seminoles. Maybe I'm right,
or maybe I'm wrong, but I think he was a
Florida State guy. Let's seeing a lot of names out there.

Speaker 11 (01:36:43):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
I like some history, small school names. Kevin Johnson and
we know who he is. Do you ever see his
dunk on uh? I think it was on Kareem? Did you?

Speaker 5 (01:36:51):
He's a six foot point guard. Also the mayor of Sacramento, Sacramento,
I think he was. I think he was the mayor
and Sacramento he was. He was in politics.

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
But kJ was a Kevin dunk on who abdul Jabbar?
Google that and say, Kevin Johnson ever dunk on Kareem?
And I think you're gonna see. I mean, I'm talking
about right down the lane and hammered his ass like
a big wind meal dunk on abdul Jabbar? Am I right, No,
you dunked on one? Oh it was Elijah One. Okay,
it was yeah, some big man and that's maybe the

(01:37:23):
best defensive center. Okay, So he didn't get abdul Jabbar.
He got Yewing. And well that's even more impressive because
by the time kJ got him, abdul Jabar would have
been wrapping up. Yeah, he dunked on. He dunked on
elij one is pretty nasty. Was it the old wind
meal right down the lane?

Speaker 5 (01:37:36):
Yeah? Yeah, buddy six foot Paul dude, and on Shack
as well, Madam Hobbs.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
He was not afraid to challenge you at the rim. Dude.
He got some of the best big man of all time. Yeah,
and and wasn't one ounce afraid. kJ was a score man.
That dude was a stud.

Speaker 5 (01:37:51):
Yeah, we'll played for Phoenix, right yep, man, dude, check dude,
this is with authority. Yeah, that was in the Let's see.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
I think that was in the playoffs, wasn't It wasn't
fake either, that was I mean I was talking about
he hammered it.

Speaker 5 (01:38:05):
Oh cool, So I you know, I googled it obviously,
and then it pulls up YouTube and I clicked Kevin
Johnson dunky on Hakeem, and it brings up the greatest
moments in NBA history. First one nineteen forty nine. Next
out of it, I ain't watching that, dumb whoa go
back and.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
Watch George Miken. A bunch of okay, goofy white dudes
with short shorts, ohah, with the Converse All Star high pops,
that passing cut that you wouldn't wear walking down steps
with the with the Connie. All stars are great, you
got a little Converse. All stars on high tops, No support, no, no,
I bet none.

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Speaker 1 (01:39:46):
Doctor Michael in the Hyatts. What's up? Michael? Hey man?

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
Uh what gaudio's Brian?

Speaker 9 (01:39:52):
Man, go get that money.

Speaker 11 (01:39:53):
The oil field is going to be hot for like
ten years, so you know, you know that's it's a
very cyclical business. But uh, you know, go get it
while it's getting good, and uh, these nuts are going
to miss you.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:40:04):
Yeah, I'm actually I'm actually going into the pipeline industry again.
So uh, the the cyclical doesn't happen, but I get it, man. Yeah,
I had to make a decision. Man. It was mine, mine,
mine only. So it's gonna suck leaving here, but uh,
you gotta do what you gotta do, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 11 (01:40:18):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean I thought the radio was paying
mucho coin dude figures right.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
No, uh no, no, no, no, I'm not Matt Thomas.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 9 (01:40:31):
Now on a serious note, man, you guys were a
fantastic pair.

Speaker 11 (01:40:34):
And it's kind of sucked because when Stan was there, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
Were like mine.

Speaker 11 (01:40:38):
Y'all were my first, like four hours of my day
or the five hours of my day was you know
that that was you guys, and stand and Gordy and
now whatever. Hey, but change is hard, but you know,
all good things come doing in and uh, hey, I
don't know how much you guys talk about the Baleramie
Tunzel trade and that Blake Fisher could go to left tackle.

Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:40:59):
Maybe give me a little or who is a left
tackle of the draft that the Texans could grab.

Speaker 9 (01:41:04):
Because I'm a little nervous man.

Speaker 11 (01:41:06):
Larv Tunsell is a pretty good pass blocker, and I
don't CJ was already getting killed last year, and I
don't think you make your own line any better by
taking away the best.

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
The best player on the line. I think before you go, Michael,
I think this is a brilliant move by them.

Speaker 5 (01:41:19):
Second third, second, third, fourth and a sixth or seventh
round pick for a guy who's seventeen penalties.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
I think Tunsel is a good player. I don't think
he's a great players. I think he's a good player.

Speaker 5 (01:41:29):
And if you could, if I can play below average
with him, I can play below average without him at
a lot less price.

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
So they got a plan, whatever that is. They have
a plan, whether it's moving up and finding somebody to
out draft. It's not a great tackle draft, but they'll
they'll go get somebody, because for to pay the price
you're gonna pay, you got to get more value in
seventeen penalties isn't enough value for me. Even though he's
a good pass rusher, they still if he's even a
good pass protector. Think how many times CJ. Stroud was

(01:41:57):
hit this year. One guy's not enough.

Speaker 5 (01:41:59):
I got have five good ones more than one good
one in four blah, And he'll do great in Washington.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
I think he's a good player. I think it was
time to move on. I don't think he's worth the money.
I just don't.

Speaker 11 (01:42:10):
Well, okay, you made me feel a little bit better.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
You remember, did y'all?

Speaker 11 (01:42:14):
You remember what we gave up for and did we
give up three first round picks or something like that?

Speaker 1 (01:42:18):
And he did good? Yeah, he did good here. He's
a good player. Like I said, he is. He is
really good, but in order to you got to be
more disciplined. You can't put your team in a mind.
But when that ball snapped, yeah, he'll protect the passer.
The problem is these pass rushers are so good and
coordinators are smart. You just move him to the other
side so you don't have to deal with your best
left tackle. You got to get more than one of them,

(01:42:39):
and they've got to work in sync. This offensive line
is going to need to retool, and I think by
trading him, you get these assets. I think this was
a wise trade. I'd have done the same exact thing.

Speaker 11 (01:42:48):
Cool all Dan, Well, thanks, good talking you guys, Brian Audios.

Speaker 9 (01:42:51):
Man, be safe out there, dude.

Speaker 5 (01:42:52):
Thank you, Michael. Appreciate it. Man, real quick. Let's get
to biscuit. What's that biscuit?

Speaker 9 (01:42:58):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:43:00):
You rolling out on this man, What's what's the Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
Man, Thursday is my last day here.

Speaker 5 (01:43:05):
Show is gonna continue to do really good things, but yeah,
I'm out after Thursday. Man, my decision headed back to
oil and gas.

Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
I'm losing out. I'm missing out. I'm my best partner
ever brother. He's been a hell running, a great friend
and sucks, but we got We'll keep kicking ass and
doing it. But it's never been It's never been better.
I can tell you that with him here, So.

Speaker 6 (01:43:26):
We dont picking about knowing brothers from.

Speaker 13 (01:43:28):
The parents.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
Misc and I'll make sure I I'll make sure when
I put somebody in that chair full time, we can
give him the same abuse. So there you go.

Speaker 5 (01:43:38):
Maybe maybe we'll have a staple segment, I don't know,
nine to fifteen every morning.

Speaker 1 (01:43:43):
There you go. I'll call in and we'll uh you
guys can give me a hard time all you want.

Speaker 6 (01:43:48):
Yeah, because he almost made me come up there. Yes,
say when you talked about Smoky Man.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
Okay, yeah, see everybody knows Smoky There you go. That's right, big.

Speaker 6 (01:44:01):
Shying to hurt you last night on man. Uh yeah, man,
this was a this was a cultural move many this
is the cult is saying. Man, listen, man, I'm trying
to develop a certain type of attitude over here, discipline, toughness.
I can't have this is my one of my best
players doing this silly stuff like nah, man, get this

(01:44:23):
dude out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:44:24):
Well, here's the way I look at it. If you're
gonna lead and you're gonna be the bell cow of
the offensive line. You can't be the guy pulling up
the rear when it comes to disciplined undisciplined penalties. He
just can't. So the value, the value you bring and
the culture that you bring, and you quite frankly off
season workout. You got to go out. You gotta think

(01:44:45):
you got to do more. You just have to. That's
that's the expectation of a guy who's paid like him,
and right now the value that you're paying for him
and what you're getting in return is not worth it.
I think this was a I think this was a
brilliant move. I would have done the same thing.

Speaker 6 (01:45:00):
It's a coach of singing shine, and I think the
same band could be applied to came with more. Hey man, Yeah,
you know, we all look at twenty seven points and
all that, but the doc is looking at other stuff.
Old man. Yeah, but you didn't get back on defense.
You wouldn't hold this dude over here. I told you
to block out. You didn't do that. Nah, man, come
on and have a seed, you know what I mean?

(01:45:22):
So this processor to this man. You have all the
time in the world, man, but if you want to
do what the coach tell you to do, Man, or
he can't get buy in. That's what it seemed like
with Tom. You know, like you say, he never show up,
Joe Ka never helped. Don't seem like he helped out
the guy next to him, you know, Okay, you seem like, man,

(01:45:42):
I need somebody gonna be a team player, you know,
And that's hey, I applaud I applied to Miko man
because he maggas and moves just all season, Shine, that
he didn't have to do. But he was like, man,
this ain't good enough. I'm trying to get somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
It sends a loud mussion. It sends a loud message
that just getting to the playoffs and winning the divisions
not enough. And I love it. I love it.

Speaker 6 (01:46:08):
Got rid of the old sea, got rid of the
left tackle. Well, you know, I'm with you, Shine, I
think they got a game playing fisher. Probably don't move
time tackle fisher right tackle. Uh, you know, let's roll
with it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:24):
I'm with you, and get all these assets to move
up in the draft if you need you to get
something else or to hang on to them. Yeah, you
get to utilize them. Right. This was a good move,
definitely good. And then you don't have to pay when
he wants a new contract, because he's gonna want a
new one, And you can leave that up to Washington.
And I think it's good for Washington. Hell, they're building
something there too, and maybe he is a rejuvenated in
an offseason program and to learn a little more discipline

(01:46:46):
at the line of scrimmage before the ball snapped. If
he does, Washington's they'll consider to win. But if you
ask me on the surface right now, just looking at it,
give me, give me the assets. I think it's a
win for the Texans.

Speaker 11 (01:46:58):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:46:58):
I would have done it, Yes, Sir Ulima.

Speaker 7 (01:47:02):
Good luck to you.

Speaker 6 (01:47:03):
My brother is Is.

Speaker 1 (01:47:05):
Be careful on these streets, man, appreciated biscuit.

Speaker 5 (01:47:09):
I'm on ttil Thursday, biggos, so make sure you call
back in all right, then, appreciated biscuit. Let's get to
break seven one three, seven ninety's the number to join
right here on seven ninety.

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This Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue.

Speaker 1 (01:49:11):
Will Fries headed to the Minnesota Vikings. What an underrated
good get maybe not even underrated good player Vikings shoring
it up from Vikings got championship caliber hopes. Man, look
at them, I feel it now. They just got to
find out if the quarterback can live up to the
way Donald played all last year. He went out and
got paid by the Seahawks. Heeahawks. Yeah, and if McCarthy's

(01:49:33):
that guy, then you're you're in for a good one.
But will they have another guy, a veteran like Will
they keep Daniel Jones there and let him compete or
they just going to turn it over to McCarthy when
he's fully healthy and get rolling in twenty twenty five.
They obviously hold him in high regard. They were willing
to let a Pro Bowl season in a great year
by Sam Donald if it's not for the last two games.
Sam Donald's is starting quarterback in twenty twenty five in

(01:49:54):
Minnesota and that wild man yep, yep, that's crazy. But
he's now starting quarterback for the Seahawks, and good on him. Yeah,
good on him, although they better get him some players
because we're talking about tearing apart their roster. Forty nine
ers tearing apart their roster. Washington add into theirs. I'm
gonna tell you what, the Rams are are a real threat, man.
The Rams are getting better. And just to think, two
weeks ago they were gonna let Stafford go out and

(01:50:15):
get a gig somewhere else, and since then they've made
nothing but good additions and keep an eye on the Chargers.
Na she Harris on a one year deal for about
nine mil or seven mil eight nine mili. I'm telling
you that's exactly the type of back. Jim Harble wants
a thumper. He's got some wiggle look out in the
physical way. Herman Edwards told me the other day, I said,

(01:50:37):
name a coach you want to coach your team? You
need one?

Speaker 5 (01:50:39):
When you know he chose Yeah, crazy. Great to be here, fellas,
Great to have you, Great to have you on, buddy. Yeah, man,
appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (01:50:47):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
Man. Stalk to John. What's up? John?

Speaker 9 (01:50:51):
Down and slapping it around?

Speaker 1 (01:50:53):
Man, let's have you you're doing what.

Speaker 8 (01:50:56):
Laying it down and slapping it around? Huh Okay, Hey, okay, Hey,
look we got a problem. I forgot to tell you
this yesterday, Buddy, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:51:08):
I've come up with a solution for you, bron.

Speaker 8 (01:51:12):
So what we're gonna do here is we're gonna We're
gonna call the oil and gas company say, man, thanks,
I appreciate it, but I gotta stay where I'm at.

Speaker 1 (01:51:20):
I gotta I got a better offer. You can stay
at seven ninety.

Speaker 8 (01:51:26):
And then you can come work for me and put
and do roofs and be a project manager in the
same time. Because Brian, there's a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
With you leaving. You ain't got the time in at
oil and gas to go to all these damn wedds
you went to. Damn right, are you listening?

Speaker 8 (01:51:51):
You You ain't got the time on the books pot
now you ain't got no PTO or whatever the hell
they call it.

Speaker 5 (01:51:57):
Oh yes, I yeah, I got thirty five days of them, buddy,
bad I give.

Speaker 1 (01:52:02):
I'll give you sixty. I'll give you sixty.

Speaker 8 (01:52:07):
Man, Come on, dog, while you're at listen. Just like
right now, Connor is at a doctor's appointment. One of
my project guys. I'm checking on his job porn. I'm
gonna watch it porn for a little while. He's still
getting paid while you're doing your job at seven ninety,
I'll still pay you, dog.

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You just you just get the contract.

Speaker 5 (01:52:27):
So let me get a Let me get a company
f two fifty.

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You want the King Ranch? King, You don't have to twenty.

Speaker 5 (01:52:36):
Four or twenty five. I'll think it's twenty three. Come on, man,
we can boys roof in King Ranch with Melema on
the tailgate.

Speaker 1 (01:52:47):
Why not?

Speaker 8 (01:52:47):
Man, don't even dog, don't even drive a King Ranch.

Speaker 1 (01:52:50):
I drive him Larriot, Okay, can I get Okay, can
we get what the opening salary offer is? I'll take
an XLT. Can we get the opening salary for the
for the UH for the UH project man, project manager?
Because if Brian don't want and I'm listening, what do
you got from it?

Speaker 7 (01:53:04):
I'll give you.

Speaker 9 (01:53:05):
I'll give you fifty k a year and then plus commission.

Speaker 1 (01:53:09):
Fifty k year and you'll and you'll let him work
till ten.

Speaker 9 (01:53:14):
You'll let him work till ten, right, No, I'm talking
about till ten in the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:53:21):
That's what I'm saying. Till ten in the morning here,
and then he gets to go out there fifty plus bonuses.
Maybe you can milk fifty five out of him and
some bonuses. Nice. I like his idea.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
Keep you here, let's go minimum minimum eight roofs on
a month.

Speaker 5 (01:53:37):
Okay, So so okay, So then I would have my
my radio job. I also coach, which is a job,
and i'd be a roofer. What am my single mother?
Three jobs?

Speaker 1 (01:53:47):
You're damned right?

Speaker 6 (01:53:50):
Weddings?

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
Well, look, man, you don't drawers from no weddings, So
why not? Well, yeah, because dudes, dudes wear drawers, and
I ain't. I ain't. I ain't pulling any dudes. You
know what I mean? Here, Brian, I got oprah Man,
I got oprah. Yeah. Well look yeah, quick man.

Speaker 9 (01:54:05):
I got it. I got a jam qhurry up, everybody,
calm down.

Speaker 8 (01:54:10):
Larry Tussel, thank god, it's slow non watching film outside,
but is gone. They will take They got a plan. People,
just let them deal with it. They got a plan,
and I think fish is going to be the plan.
But they're going to go in the draft somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:54:28):
Yeah, let's stop bury the lead though. Let's stop bury
the lead. Brian, you're gonna take that offer, thank you? Johnny,
can we get you to take that offer?

Speaker 11 (01:54:35):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:54:36):
No, no, I'm out man, No no, no, you just
don't want to go there have to hag shiggles, dud.
You're not ready for that too much. I'm thirty. That's
a lot of that's work.

Speaker 11 (01:54:49):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
I was in roofing for like two and a half months.
That's enough for me. Three months.

Speaker 5 (01:54:53):
I still got the Cooper Paus. If you want to well,
you said, you say, give you the right out. Yeah, no,
I'm good man. It's a special, special industry. You're gonna
get you out on a rig. No, no, no, you're
going white collar all the way. Yeah, I spent three
years in the field already.

Speaker 7 (01:55:14):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:55:14):
You've doug served your serve, You've done served your oil
and gainst Wimbledon, North Dakota. I have, Yeah, I did
a pipeline project up there in the blizzard. I'm out, man, No, No,
I have white collar all the way.

Speaker 1 (01:55:26):
Man. Those projects don't stop, No, I.

Speaker 5 (01:55:29):
Know they don't. I'm out though. I ain't going on
a rig man, no good man. Appreciate that offer, John,
but no, I'm a pass on that one. Hey, let's
get into the nine o'clock hour. We got some news
from Joe Espata. Joe Espata with some news in regards
to the Astros.

Speaker 1 (01:55:49):
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Damn right, it is right on your home for Astros
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This is the Sean Salisbury Show, John Salisbury, Brian Alma,
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Speaker 5 (01:56:47):
Hunter Brown on the mound for the shows. Rockets beat
the Magic last night and you have the Texans. They
traded their left tackle Laramie Huntsel seven three two two
five seven on you got some news from Joe's spot
of this morning. We're gonna talk about that in two

(01:57:07):
minutes after we get off the phone. Brow, what's up, Brad?

Speaker 1 (01:57:12):
Hello?

Speaker 13 (01:57:13):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (01:57:14):
You've got your Brad? What's up?

Speaker 6 (01:57:16):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (01:57:17):
I just want to think goodbout it you. I was thinking, well,
you only worked till ten. You couldn't have said something
to the oil companies said can I start at ten thirty? No?

Speaker 14 (01:57:28):
No, no, no like that?

Speaker 1 (01:57:31):
No it didn't work like that. I wish man, but no,
trust me. I tried to put that one on him,
my man, trust me. I tried.

Speaker 13 (01:57:42):
Yeah. I'm sure if the radio station said will pay
you two times what you're making that you probably would
have stayed.

Speaker 6 (01:57:48):
It's all about the money, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:57:50):
Anyway, on this hilarry.

Speaker 13 (01:57:53):
Me tunsil in regarding to the money, since he was
making like twenty something million. Does does that favorite the Texans?
Do they get that money to use for a free
agency or they don't get nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:58:07):
It freed up some cap space. Definitely freed up some
cap space to uh move him, and you know it
gives him room to whether it's sign a veteran, go
get another veteran, use for rookies, whatever you want, however
they want to use it. But it does free up
some cap space, no doubt. Fourteen mil.

Speaker 10 (01:58:23):
You know how much?

Speaker 1 (01:58:24):
Fourteen fourteen million?

Speaker 9 (01:58:25):
Yep, that's not bad. All right, Thanks, that's that's so.

Speaker 5 (01:58:30):
I appreciate you, Brad, thank you. And some news from
Joe Espada. You really pronounced it his name right, That's
not that's you.

Speaker 12 (01:58:40):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:58:40):
You're better than that. Can I get it the way
you'd normally say it if you're an Esco, Hey man,
that's Joe a SPA. There you go say, put some respect.

Speaker 5 (01:58:50):
Chandler Rome tweeting this out ten minutes ago. Cam Smith
will play right field in a Greape Fruit League League
game very soon, per Joe Espada.

Speaker 1 (01:59:02):
Ladies and gentlemen, you're starting right fielder and hitting the
first five. Cameron Smith, you gotta just call it like
you see it, Brian, you know what I'm saying. You
gotta call it like you see it. I uh, will
you hang up and hang out man with you?

Speaker 6 (01:59:24):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
Yeah, of course you are tripping over that cap, aren't you.

Speaker 5 (01:59:29):
Somehow Sean's water bottle cap disappeared in the studio and
it's throwing him for a loop.

Speaker 1 (01:59:34):
He's looking at I don't like.

Speaker 5 (01:59:36):
I don't want to leave it for anybody. I'm like,
I wish we had the cameras. Oh my gosh, but
it's so weird. I know, I don't want to leave.
It's like somebody came in here, like a ghost came in.
Here's pissed off.

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
Of you for leaving me and now looking under the speakers. Man,
I'm looking at it. Hang on to say, let me
check my drawers.

Speaker 11 (01:59:55):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
No, don't see it, nobody. I'm hanging up and hanging out.
I can tell you this that I like that. Then
if you know what, go please let them hit a
few balls at him and where he wheels all one
and throws the guy out and the great Yes, so
we can just finalize this and plug him in right
field and say, see every frigging day, every frigging day,

(02:00:16):
give it to me.

Speaker 5 (02:00:16):
Ye, give it to us. Yep, we gotta find that
cap for you. Man, I'm not really you know what,
put my od. I care about you. I don't care
about that cap. I probably I mean that no cap,
no cat cap. Yeah you call cap and I say,
no cat, And where's the cap? I have zero idea,
just disappeared in the No. I checked my one.

Speaker 1 (02:00:37):
I did. I checked there too. It's the weirdest thing
and I didn't throw it in the trash because I
and I checked all. You know, I mean, it's nothing. Man.
Oh well, you know what we ought to do.

Speaker 5 (02:00:47):
We how to go to the time Wise down over
near Katie off the off I ten, talk to Muhamed
and see if we can get you another bottle.

Speaker 1 (02:00:53):
Uh try tried to Oh Mike, sorry, I forgot there
you go. That's right, my peeps.

Speaker 5 (02:00:59):
I'm just saying, I really just hope that cam Smith
continues to hit well, gets a couple of balls in
right field, just like you said, and and just like
let's just come on cut the BS. Put him on
the opening day roster and see how it goes, forget
everything else, make it happened.

Speaker 1 (02:01:13):
I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree the guy show
him that he's he's answering the call every day. Yeah,
why not stack him out there in right field and
please let him get please let him have to make
a few plays in duh, that would be awesome. Then okay,
so what do you do then? Well, what do you
do then? Does McCormick become the expendable guy? No, I'm

(02:01:33):
not talking about is a bench guy or does What
do you do because you're not going to put him
in center field regularly? Is that a platoon position? Because
Alto is gonna play every day? And left left field?
That weird? If if if cam Smith has emerged that much,
what does it? Does it just ad depth or does
it allow you? Do you free that up? And you're
moving from him?

Speaker 5 (02:01:53):
And then it comes down to like guys like Brendan Rodgers,
Ben Gamble Chas McCormick, Jake Myers, yeah, and then Christian
Walker and Dubon at times, and then du Bonn yeah,
Christian Walker and John Singleton river first, I'm just thinking
of position wise.

Speaker 1 (02:02:06):
Obviously got Dubon at second penny a short who's the
who's the odd man out that's not gonna get much run?
Is it McCormick. I would rather have McCormick. There's no question.
Or is he good enough of defense that if Chad did,
if if Jake Myers doesn't hit the McCormick plays more centerfield,
just throw Chas over in center. I don't we'll see

(02:02:26):
it's gonna be in. But I can tell you this,
Cam Smith has opened some eyes in the wow factor.
He's living at he well, he's exceeded expectations. I think, yeah,
so far, we'll see so very soon. So I'm assuming
probably the next day or so he'll play. I hopefield, Yeah,
and I hope he tears it up. So I with
that being said, I.

Speaker 5 (02:02:49):
Wonder if the discussions inside the organization have been all right,
we got Cam Smith, he's our top prospect. Now, let's
give him some run at big league camp. Play MC
couple days here and there at third base, Let's see
how he swings in. We'll go from there. Right now,
all of a sudden, he comes out. He's sitting over
five hundred or whatever, it is, not striking out a
lot barrel and balls up left and right playing third base,

(02:03:10):
and they're like, oh, damn, now he's forcing our hand.
We might have to look to see if we can
get him on the opening day roster.

Speaker 1 (02:03:17):
So what do we do? Okay, let's just throw him
in the OUTFITLD. See how he goes, See how it goes.

Speaker 6 (02:03:20):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (02:03:21):
It feels like they're doing that. He's made it so
tough on him they have to find a place to
play it. Yeah, forcing their hand. Yeah, and that doesn't
mean play him once in a while. It looks like
they're trying to find a guy who damn, we may
need to keep them in the lineup on a regular
base if he hits like this, because one thing that
this team needed more than anything last year is the
ability to deliver with runners in scoring position, and if

(02:03:44):
he can, he's going to make it difficult to keep
him off this roster.

Speaker 5 (02:03:48):
So you have a game against New York today, a
game against the Nationals tomorrow, and then a game against
Saint Louis on Thursday. You also have looks like it's
a split squad on Thursday, So you have one game
against Saint Louis, one game against Miami. So I would
I would assume he'll play in one of those games

(02:04:08):
on Thursday. Oh yeah, he'll definitely. They'll give him the
day off today, day off tomorrow, and then I bet
he plays in one of those split squads on Thursday.

Speaker 1 (02:04:15):
Well, my guess is he's gonna get a lot of
run between now and the time they break camp, especially
if they say, Okay, we're convinced. Now we got to
run him out there and let's get him going. But
the ball ain't heavy, and he's young, he could the
work will be good for him. So let me see,
let me go. Okay, here we go. So here is
the This was the spring training roster coming into camp.

Speaker 5 (02:04:34):
You have.

Speaker 1 (02:04:36):
Outfielders.

Speaker 5 (02:04:37):
You're done, Kennedy Corona, Quincy Hamilton, Cooper Hummel, Pedro Leon,
Chas McCormick, Jacob Melton, Jake Myers, Taylor Trammel, Taylor Tremill
has been hurt, Jacob Melton, they already reassigned. Then you
have Chas McCormick, pedro Leoni's hurt. Cooper Hummel not going
to be a guy that makes the makes the opening
day roster, Quincy Hamilton know, Kennedy Corona, he's getting some run,

(02:04:58):
but he's not gonna make it.

Speaker 1 (02:04:59):
So, yeah, it's gonna come down to it's gonna come
down to.

Speaker 5 (02:05:05):
Jake Myers chas McCormick and had come down to the
outfield as that last bench guy. So then who who
is it who's going to be left off? Remember de
Zenzo was going to have an opportunity. You've obviously got
Mauricio Dubon, Cam Smith, Shaye Whitcomb. I'm just going through
the position players, right m Yeah, that's gonna be I wonder,

(02:05:33):
I wonder who that last person is gonna be left
off because you can't just I don't think.

Speaker 1 (02:05:41):
Two catchers, yep, you get you know, Jiner and Carotini,
two first basemen, Christian Walker and Singleton. Singleton, you get
Dubon at second or Rogers or both. So let's just
say six shortstops, Payana and a and a Swiss Army knife. Yep.

(02:06:02):
So that's seven. Third base is going to be paradis.
And is it possible that the Zenzel plays there as
the backup? I think cam Smith, Okay, Cam Smith's backup,
but what if he's a starting right fielder then yeah,
you okay, So another infield or whoever is another in fielder, right, okay,
so that's eight that eight or nine eight eight Okay.

(02:06:25):
Then you go out to the outfield and you got
a two v Myers and McCormick nine ten to eleven.
Uh Jordan Jordon. I'm putting him in the DHS so
nine Jordan would be ten. And let's see, we got
you with four more? Is that about right? How many
pitches they keeping? Twelve? Right, so fourteen players. Then it

(02:06:47):
comes down to if cam Smith, yeah, it's gonna come
and yeah, that's the logic of it.

Speaker 5 (02:06:55):
Yeah, damn man, oh my gosh. If again, if cam
Smith forces their hand, he's gonna play.

Speaker 1 (02:07:03):
Like I think he's all ready. I think the hands
already forced. The question is where do we put him
every day? And will he if you're willing to keep
him up. You got to play him because he's got
to get at bats and is and not got to
get him at bats because you wanted to get experienced.
That's a big part of it. But it's starting to
feel like you gotta get him at bats because the
guy can hit. Yeah, and you know it'll get tougher obviously,
because major league pitching and the grind of a long

(02:07:23):
season and you know, their fifth starter is better than
anybody you're gonna face on the triple A level, more
than likely or you know, double A. I just think
that he you know what, like I said at the
beginning of Spring train, and make it miserable for them
to have to send you down. And it appears as
we sit here now that that's what they're doing. I'm
anxious to see if they don't. If he plays this
well and they send him down, I want to hear

(02:07:45):
what the excuse is, because there's really only one excuse
for me, and that would be those the years, right,
But I can't. I don't if I don't think you're
going to have them say, well, he's not ready mentally,
we want to get him from a like if that,
I don't know if they even believe that, would you know? So,
I just if he's gonna help your team win, let's

(02:08:07):
roll with it. Yeah, baby, let's get let's get Triple G. Sorry,
roll with it by Easton, Yeah, we got to roll
with it. That's we're dedicated to Cam Smith.

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Speaker 5 (02:10:37):
Maybe lesra I see here's my issue man, with it
here we go? Alright, So this this, this is why
I just don't understand people. Man, why are people so
upset that Camsmith might make the opening day roster? Brian
mctagger tweeted out, uh uh, what's it called about Campsmith?
The same thing that uh that Chandler rom He said

(02:11:00):
Campsmith is going to get some time in right field
sooner than later. That's what Joe spot has said this morning.
One guy said confirmation he's definitely not gonna be on
the opening day roster.

Speaker 1 (02:11:07):
What well, how does so that person definitely not? Huh,
what's the reason.

Speaker 5 (02:11:15):
I just dude, why would we want him on the roster?
Why would you not want him on the roster? You're
that worried about that one year of control? Not me,
cause honestly, this is how it's going to go. And
we've talked about this with every good player that's been here,
with the Astros, Let's say camp Smith comes up, has
a good year this year, has a good year next year,
and a good year his third year, or has it

(02:11:36):
up and down year this year and some decent years ahead,
or he turns into it just a full blown dude.

Speaker 1 (02:11:42):
They're not going to be able to afford to keep
him anyways.

Speaker 5 (02:11:45):
Or they lock him up like they did ord On
Alvarez on a cheap, team friendly deal early in his career.
And we're too concerned, too protective of this stuff, man,
too protective of it.

Speaker 1 (02:11:55):
Take care, like, can you bring him up?

Speaker 6 (02:11:57):
Now?

Speaker 1 (02:11:58):
Apply that to football? And can you imagine Guy's great,
great quarterback. Stroud's a really good player. I can't can't
play him, man, You.

Speaker 5 (02:12:05):
Don't want to start that service clock yet, can can't
play him, don't want to do it.

Speaker 1 (02:12:07):
So hold him down, even though he's better than everybody
on the roster. We got it, we got it. We
can't play him this. Imagine think about how that would apply.
Go back to when Bill O'Brien was a head coach here.

Speaker 5 (02:12:15):
He started Tom Savage instead of Deshaun Watson, even though
Deshaun Watson had a badass camp and everybody knew he
was going to be the starter of what happened.

Speaker 1 (02:12:22):
Tom Savage got benched at halftime. All those thrill all
those all those concerns and worried about Deshaun Watson's rookie.
Well maybe Bill knew something we don't. But all those
Deshaun Watson, oh man can't play him? Yeah, and he
goes Tom Savage. Boy, that changed at halftime. Have you
start to think, man, my ass is in a sling
if I don't get a quarterback. And he threw Watson

(02:12:43):
out there. And Watson played good football which led him
to two hundred and thirty million dollars in Cleveland, which
he hasn't played good football with that, I to me,
what would you rather have? One year of service when
he or if he plays great, he's gonna leave, or
you can lock him up or just hide him there?
And they go out and we can't find it. On
a perfect opening for a player to make a roster.

(02:13:04):
They said the young players were going to get a
chance to compete, and here we are, and we want
to resist it. Nah, I don't, matter of fact, his
struggle will be good for him if he's as mentally
tough as maybe they think he is. Or you and
I discuss all the time. Like I said, guys listens. Eventually,
guys that can hit will just hit the good but
they'll just play well.

Speaker 11 (02:13:23):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:13:24):
And if he's got that part of his DNA and
they know that, the mental and emotional stuff, he can
handle the grind, what are you waiting on? I just
he won't get better hitting double A pitching, No, you
can't put him. He will not get better. No, he
will not.

Speaker 5 (02:13:37):
You can't put him in double A. You put him
in triple A or make the open day roster.

Speaker 1 (02:13:40):
And that's that simple as that man. Let him have
his successes and failures and struggles against both.

Speaker 5 (02:13:46):
And again, like your people are so worried about this
freaking clock who you know what that is? If he
turns into a full blown dude, you know what that is,
they're not going to be able to force him in it.

Speaker 1 (02:13:56):
If nobody ever mentioned it, nobody ever talked nobody. That's
that's baseball talk because it fits into like you're sitting
in with a bunch of executives in a room talking
about the roster. Yeah, most time the guy outside the
box and gonna screw your your service. If he's great,
we're gonna keep him. If he's too great, he's gonna
price us out and we're gonna let him go some
time anyway. So let's get the well the gitten's good play.

(02:14:19):
I don't listen. I don't And that's not for everybody,
but for certain guys, they're just better than the year.
They're just better and more valuable playing now than the
year of service. Right, yeah, the protection for thee no,
not for me. If he's worth it playing play him.
Don't care, don't absolutely do not care. So how long

(02:14:43):
is it, like certain how many games would you have
to sit before he passes were to fulfill.

Speaker 5 (02:14:47):
That the service time or whatever it is. So I
think if you how many games in is it before
you can say? I just think if you make the
roster to start the season. Okay, now listen.

Speaker 1 (02:14:59):
If I don't know what they I remember, Like I said,
we had this conversation I did with some Cubs fans
at a spring training game with Chicago with Chris Bryant,
and it was the same thing. He's a perfect example
because the similar talk ironically being a guy that we
got from the Cubs that Chris Brant to talk about
him was he's more than ready. You have to play him,
you have to bring him up. And I was there.

(02:15:20):
He was playing third base and racing and matter of fact,
in that game, you know what he did homeward? Yeah,
I mean it's like, oh, okay, so, I mean a
matter of fact, it might have been his first at
bat in that game homeward. It's like, okay, what's the
hold of you? I get it?

Speaker 5 (02:15:35):
But is there is there a certain amount of time
that he'd have to spend down before he come up
and doesn't lose that year? For some reason, I thought
they said it was a handful of I mean more
than a handful, but a certain number of games that
season that he would have to keep him down.

Speaker 1 (02:15:48):
Yeah, so he brought him up. Uh yeah, so it's okay.
I remember that. I remember that. It was like thirty
or forty games whatever, I can't remember what it was. Yeah,
so you have. And I don't know if that rule
has changed since then, the number or is it the
forty man? What happens if he goes to triple A?
How long has he stayed there before you can bring
him up? Fifth fifteen days? I don't know. If that's

(02:16:10):
the case, then I'll deal with fifteen.

Speaker 5 (02:16:11):
Someone has got to know, because yeah, I have an
article here in regards to the service sign, but it's
literally like five pages Long's any different ways to look
at it?

Speaker 1 (02:16:19):
Because I can remember I remember it distinctly about Chris Brant.
I just don't remember the number of games or how
long before you could pull it. Listen, if it's fifteen games, okay,
I think it's I think it's fifteen day days. So
it ends up being like twelve games or whatever it is, right,
so I can deal with that not starting and then
all of a sudden you yank him up. But yeah,

(02:16:42):
a year, you know the year's of service to say fifteen,
it's fifteen days.

Speaker 5 (02:16:46):
Fifteen days are what separates an extra year of team control, okay,
And the result is that a major league team will
need to find at least sixteen days over the course
of the standard six years of team control in which
a prospect is not on the active roster to ensure
that the organization needs extra year of team control.

Speaker 1 (02:17:01):
So it was sixteen days in truth, if you're looking
for it that way, the smart thing to do is
you let him play fifteen days in triple A, and
then you just yank him up. The risk is he
goes down there and he gets bored and he's not raking,
and then you saying, well, let's keep him there. You
know what I'm saying. If he's rolling hot, Yes, I
get the obvious reason why. So I didn't know. So

(02:17:21):
it is fifteen okay, yeah, because it was at that time,
I thought it must be the same rule because people
were saying, it's a couple of weeks.

Speaker 5 (02:17:27):
So they brought they bring up, they bring up several cases.
They bring up Chris Bryant with the Cubs in twenty fifteen,
and then Ronald Accunya Junior of the Atlanta Braves back
in what twenty.

Speaker 1 (02:17:35):
Cubs I believe made them wait for Chris Bryant. I
think they did. They did they keep him down or
do they bring him up? I can't remember. I thought
they they held him those fifteen days or he was
optioned to Triple A.

Speaker 5 (02:17:47):
He just played eight games without him before he was
brought up to the big league club on April seventeenth,
just after the service time deadline.

Speaker 1 (02:17:53):
There you go. So they they decided and they did it.
For one he was ready. Matter of fact, he was
one of the best players on their team.

Speaker 5 (02:17:58):
Okay, So so he played, yeah, eight games, the first
eight games, and then he was brought up so that
it covered fifteen or sixteen covered, it covered the it
covered the fifteen days.

Speaker 1 (02:18:09):
I get that part of it. It's not now. Listen,
if they came in and said, listen, you can't please,
can't bring him up the whole year until roster's change,
like in September, right.

Speaker 5 (02:18:17):
Yeah, and you're like what, Okay, So now I'm kind
of I'm kind of getting this. So basically, if they
want to do it that way, they would send him
to Triple A hoping he can mill days and then
bring it right back up and you still get that
extra year of service.

Speaker 1 (02:18:30):
So that's why I do build side, right, That's why
when I brought it up, like was it last week
or something about the Chris Bryant thing, there was a
certain years of service I couldn't remember the number. Now,
it would be a no brainer. We wouldn't even be
having this conversation. If they said it's got to be
a half a season. They would not do that. Yeah,
they'd just say screw the year of service. But for
think about it, that'll take you into mid April. Yeah, guys,

(02:18:51):
I got some breaking News'll take you in mid April,
so we'll see about that. Due.

Speaker 12 (02:18:55):
The Texans are acquiring Veterans safety CJ. Gardner Johnson from
the Eagles. No exchanged for a former former first round
pick Kenyon.

Speaker 1 (02:19:04):
Green Old They're trading another lineman.

Speaker 12 (02:19:06):
Trade includes a pick swap, with the Eagles getting a
twenty twenty six fifth round pick and the Texans getting
a twenty twenty six Damn.

Speaker 1 (02:19:12):
Would I tell you we talked about this off season
to see Garner Johnson is pretty good. He's a really
good player. Got some attitude too. I'm going to tell
you this. Yeah, I think he was a CJ was
what he was in New Orleans and then found his
way into Philly. And he's got some attitude and he's
a tough guy. So you've added depth at safety. That's
a pretty good position they got and they've added it
with some experience. And what you've basically said is we

(02:19:33):
missed Kenyan Green was a bust for us. Dude.

Speaker 5 (02:19:36):
They are dismantling their offensive line.

Speaker 1 (02:19:39):
That's the exact word I used. At the end of
the year. I said, you have to dismantle. Yeah, you
have to completely overhaul the offensive line. Now, at that time,
you didn't think they had the guts to do it
with Tunsil. But you've gotten rid of a you've cut
what Juice scrugs. Yeah, you shock Mason. You cut Mason,
You traded, traded Tunsil and a first round picked. You

(02:20:00):
really got nothing out of Yeah. I had no disrespect
to Kenyan A. Green, but he didn't do any injuries
and play. He's been a bus Yeah so far, now
hopefully he can Where's he going to Philly? Yes, Phil
tell you that. Well, Philly's thinking we're just at in
depth our offensive line. Maybe we can get something out
of a guy who two years ago, three years ago
was a first round pick. Whatever it was, right, So

(02:20:21):
I again, I don't know. This isn't a problem for me.
They're telling you that our offensive line was basically asked, yah,
three starters gone wow, and Kenyan Green the only reason
he wasn't. I mean, he lost that job, but he
started the season as your starting guy, and as a
first round pick, he was going to get every opportunity
to lose the job, and unfortunately he did, damn from

(02:20:41):
injuries and performance. Again, moving on from an offensive life,
you talk about it. This isn't just an overhaul. This
is a crack crap can this team And I'm don't
be surprised that they ain't done. Wow, be surprised. And
guess what they got? Didn't They get another asset? They
got a draft pick, go swap. So the Kenyan Green

(02:21:03):
things is zero surprise, man, But adding another safety with
experience is pretty impressive. And you know what he can.
He has at times in his past played pretty good
inside at the slot. A guy, a safety guy who's
been able to cover at times too. Now depending on
what they're going to have him do here, that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (02:21:19):
Let's discuss this more trade coming in literally a minute
ago for the Houston Texans.

Speaker 1 (02:21:24):
We'll discuss the.

Speaker 5 (02:21:25):
Next with the Sewn Salisbury show continues. So they add
a standout safety in CJ. Gardner Johnson. That adds some
depth to that position as well, and you get rid
of Kenyon Green, who just flat out was not good.
Missed on that draft pick.

Speaker 1 (02:21:45):
He was not good. Plus he was banged up when
he was healthy. Just he wasn't good.

Speaker 5 (02:21:49):
That offensive line room, Sean, the offensive line room, Sean
needed changes, and in two days less than twenty four hours.
You've traded Laramie Tutzel, You've traded Kenyon Green. Last week,
you cut Shaq Mason. There's three right there.

Speaker 1 (02:22:05):
Yeah, I'm going to tell you, if you're in that
meeting room, you better put your head on a swivel
and get your ass moving.

Speaker 5 (02:22:09):
Titus Howard earlier, get ready to learn se Seattle Seahawk buddy.

Speaker 1 (02:22:13):
You better get that. They're a clear and way too.
Fisher is going to start regularly. He may move because
you know he's going to be a regular go right. Yeah,
they drafted him pretty high for that reason. They are
retooling it completely, which also tells me that the new
offensive line coaching coordinator went in and watch tape. Yeah,
honestly think about how to think about the did when
this when they were fired to now, they went in

(02:22:33):
to watch tape and said what's best for our program
and our team moving forward? And they had to come
up with we got to be better here, here and here,
let's move on and coupled with salaries and if you're
gonna want to sign a tunsil to a big deal
and you get assets to make some moves that you
want to make. Three cats in four days gone yeah,

(02:22:56):
and I do. I think the new line coach and
coordinator came in said unacceptable. That's just unacceptable. We got now,
you guys do whatever you want salary wise, but when
it comes to play on the field, this is unacceptable
for us. And it's a culture change, no problem. We
told you in December that this offensive line was going
to be retooled and they were going to gut that room.

(02:23:19):
And they've even gutted it more because a first round
pick from three years ago and a Pro Bowl left
tackle are out and gone. So there you go. They
have gutted it. And it's listen. Like I said, I
can pine find five guys to play below average football anywhere.
That's not the goal. The goal is to play dominant football.

(02:23:40):
And I got news for Kenyan Green. If you love football,
I would suggest you're going to a Super Bowl champion
that you walk in that room, you might want to
spend this offseason whenever you're going to get healthy to
get it right, because when you walk into that room,
the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line is one of the best
in this league. So if you want to continue playing
and not become a orneyman as an offensive lineman, first

(02:24:01):
round picked this early in your career. I suggest that
you go in there with a and get your foot
with this offseason better be off the important and and
you better be ready to go. Because he ain't playing. No,
he's not playing. He's not playing. I mean what I
said me meaning he meaning that's Philadelphia team's not playing,
meaning we're not taking average players. That's exactly right. Yeah.

(02:24:23):
With CJ. Gardner Johnson's.

Speaker 5 (02:24:28):
Contract, he will be under contract for twenty twenty five
and twenty twenty six, So you get two years with
him and a super Bowl experience. And he's only he's
only twenty seventy. He's only twenty seven years old, and.

Speaker 1 (02:24:42):
He's a good player, super Bowl experience, and he's got attitude,
which I like. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 5 (02:24:46):
So that adds into another really good piece for the
Houston Texans defense. It's gonna be interesting to see what
their playing is for the O line. Got rid of Green,
got rid of hunsl You cut Shack Mason telling you
Titus Howard is he gonna The.

Speaker 1 (02:25:02):
Moves aren't there now, The moves aren't done there at
least moving around. And I got news for you. We're
not even sure who's playing where yet right, and that's
okay too. It just keeps them off. Better learn more
than one position if you want to creates more value
for you. If there's no value, or if the value
is less than uh, the expectations, then you got to
move on. That's just it. And they gotta you. Better

(02:25:24):
coach them up and better get going because they are
not playing and when it comes to making moves. And
I love the loud message that this organization sending the
tech screw around. Screw around soon, you won't.

Speaker 5 (02:25:34):
Be around Texans secondary Sean that wouldn't use the word
screw It would be an f F bomb.

Speaker 1 (02:25:38):
Yeah, f around, F round Soon you won't be around.

Speaker 5 (02:25:41):
You've got Kamari Lassiter, Derek Stingley Junior, Kaylen Bullock, Jalen Peatrie,
c J. Gardner, Johnson, and Jimmy Ward. It's not a
bad secondary man. This defense, this defense is they're they're
not they're not rebuilding that. This defense is one of
the best defenses in the league. All they're doing is
stockpiling and getting ready tom and they are heading the

(02:26:02):
right direction. Tomiko's doing it like he wanted it done. Yeah,
give me a quarterback and find me a defense. And
we'll take the rest and we'll take care of the rest.
And if you're an offensive lineman, they're taking care of
the rest, and they're doing it in a hurry.

Speaker 1 (02:26:13):
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Speaker 11 (02:27:07):
We want to win.

Speaker 2 (02:27:09):
Sean Salisbury continues. On seven ninety in.

Speaker 5 (02:27:12):
The NFL Draft, the Texans traded down from number thirteen
to number fifteen with the Eagles and use that pick
to select Kenyon Green. Three years later, they're trading Kenyon
Green to Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 (02:27:26):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (02:27:28):
So the Texans trading Laramie Tunsel. Yesterday, they traded Kenyon
Green to the Philadelphia Eagles. This morning they also return
in return, we'll get CJ. Gardner Johnson, a really really
good safety, been in the league for a while now,
only twenty seven years old.

Speaker 1 (02:27:44):
Really good.

Speaker 5 (02:27:45):
He's gonna add to that swarm mentality that Demico Ryans
always talks about. Let's take one last call for the show.
Talk to Kenneth. What's up, Kenneth?

Speaker 8 (02:27:55):
Yeah, yeah, thank you man.

Speaker 14 (02:27:57):
Uh say man, football man.

Speaker 9 (02:27:59):
I want to win.

Speaker 14 (02:28:00):
She the best man and uh, I'm sorry to hear
you go, but sometime we had to go to a
green of pastors. Man, and uh, I don't give meet
that special person. And y'all have a lot of kids
and everything, man, and enjoy your life and uh uh
on that ting and green and uh talk of things
I called about.

Speaker 13 (02:28:22):
Thirty.

Speaker 1 (02:28:25):
Yeah, you caught him. You caught him. If I'm not mistaken,
you called him a bust.

Speaker 14 (02:28:29):
Right, Okay, Yeah, I called and dropped the mic on
that man.

Speaker 1 (02:28:33):
I remember flash of car.

Speaker 6 (02:28:35):
Yeah, because it when it came out to mom, I got.

Speaker 14 (02:28:39):
I had to call man.

Speaker 9 (02:28:40):
But I was gonna wait till for Thursday to say goodbye.
But I got.

Speaker 14 (02:28:45):
I got dismantled by the evening guys by even mentioned
in that man. They said he couldn't even get wet
tallet people for him. And you know this here was
a win wind. But one last thing I gotta say is.

Speaker 6 (02:28:57):
About this uh uh this uh so uh uh.

Speaker 14 (02:29:04):
The scouting there just like just like we talked to
people in our business. I don't and I don't think
it's no, there's no such thing as inside of trading
in the NFL, right, uh.

Speaker 1 (02:29:18):
Per se No, But do I believe that there's uh
did people do?

Speaker 13 (02:29:22):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:29:23):
What's the word I'm looking for?

Speaker 9 (02:29:27):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (02:29:28):
Do I believe that it may not be inside of trading,
but there's insider secrets to give you a head start
on something. And I do believe that yes, they they
dold a little, even though they don't like that word.

Speaker 1 (02:29:41):
They do colude.

Speaker 2 (02:29:42):
Yes.

Speaker 14 (02:29:43):
But but I'm saying I don't let the say this
because I believe Cassio man had a plan in place.
He no way he's gonna get what and everything. I believe.
I don't think this man jumped all this line with
out a plan and knowing where it's going. And uh
and again Brian teaching along life.

Speaker 1 (02:30:03):
Thank you.

Speaker 9 (02:30:06):
Times on the radio.

Speaker 5 (02:30:07):
Thank you, Kenneth. I appreciate the words man, very kind
of you. Thank you again. I'm still here till Thursday.
People come on now you calling in anyways?

Speaker 1 (02:30:15):
Man, let's deal man, You know it sucks you hit
that dog? Oh look I hit it there.

Speaker 5 (02:30:22):
You're sorry you can't see. Yeah, that came came off wrong.
But I'm talking about Oh I'm in here dancing dog. Yeah,
my bad, I forgot you can't see me. John Cena,
cuz sewn you're gonna go run some laps after they're gonna.

Speaker 1 (02:30:34):
Run up some stairs with a sweatsuit on or what,
I'm gonna run my ass right to the crib. Yeah.
Telling you, if you're tired of Howard, you better keep
your head on a swivel son, I wouldn't be He's
not the only one.

Speaker 5 (02:30:47):
You can guess it.

Speaker 1 (02:30:48):
Good bye, what happened to you? I don't know. A lot,
a lot a lot going on in Houston, man, damn,
it's if it appears to be good stuff. Casiro's moving
and shaking, man like it, roll with you. We need
a camera, I know, maybe maybe in.

Speaker 5 (02:31:10):
Maybe in Friday when you leave, then we'll just put
the camera after Thursday.

Speaker 1 (02:31:15):
Yeah maybe then, man, maybe then.

Speaker 5 (02:31:17):
Nobody's gonna nobody's gonna pop it and lock it like
you do, and and and uh and basically robot it,
robot it. No, good luck, thanks man, great to see
you see the beach or no? Oh yeah, hey you
guys do anything this afternoon? Or you guys want to
grab some coffee? You know, maybe maybe a bagel or something.

Speaker 1 (02:31:32):
I got stuff to do. Its busy, huh yeah, a
little busy. Yeah, a little busy. I would love to,
but I don't worry about me, man, don't worry now.
I'll be fine people, and we'll call you back. Thanks.
That's gonna do it. I have a good one.

Speaker 5 (02:31:47):
I don't forget the Astros and Mets today at twelve
oh five. We're gonna have a tape de lay later
in the evening so you can catch all that on
the seven ninety Rockets one last night as well. So
a lot of things going on down here in the
city of Houston, Texans making tray. We'll talk more about
that tomorrow at six am. Shawn Salisbury Triple is our
producer Ian Brian Lima. Thank you for listening again. We're
back tomorrow morning six am. But don't go anywhere. The

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