July 10, 2025 • 14 mins
Concluding their series against the Guardians' yesterday evening and shockingly failing to grasp one game, Cleveland surprisingly sweeps Houston resulting in a harsh series loss just after sweeping the Dodgers' down in Los Angeles. With injuries beginning to play a vital role yet again in the Astros decline as we reach the midseason point, Sean and Dan evaluate the Astros' series loss to the Guardians' and what must be done rolling into the Silver Boot Series against the Rangers this weekend and after the All-star break to sustain this great run they've endured this season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sean That begs the question.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I mean, he is a guy that's played a lot
of different infield positions, a DH two. I mean, you
need some offense in this lineup right now. If the
opportunity is there, not as a trade, I don't think
that you're going to go about it as a trade.
But if he clears waivers and he's free to sign wherever.
If you're Dana Brown, do you not think about it?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Yeah, because you'll get him cheap. He's in you know,
he's along in his career. He's always had great bat
control and put the ball as well, witnessed by the
two batting titles. He's been solid and there's probably still
a little love in that bat. I just don't think
he's an everyday player anymore. I mean, but can give Kenspachi.
I think he's a good guy to have on your
roster because he's always been a guy, at least for
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most of his career that can hit. And he's been
a pretty versatile player as well, so you can move
you can move him around to more than one position.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I would.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I don't know if he's a you know, it's going
to make a difference, but he's a body if you're
looking for a guy to jump on in that you're
looking for a piece, not the wow factor. And like
you said, if it's you go get him and sign
him to a contract. He's been mixed through waivers and nobody.
Then I don't think you have to pick up the
money that he's been making. You get to paying what
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you want to pay him, what he's willing to do.
And if you're DJ Lemayhew, you probably think this is
a pretty good team to be a part of. And
with all these injuries he may get a little more
run anyway. So is he the catch all that's going
to be a high demand. Probably not, But he's a
kg veteran who is who knows how to hit.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
He's just going through his struggles.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I would at least visit that if it's a possibility, Dan,
because le Mayhew's a veteran, and adding the vetter, we
see what veterans do when they come here. A lot
of times they fit right in and take care of
their business.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I wouldn't. I would have no problem with that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
He's played second, third and first he can his career
and he also did have a injury this season. He
went through a funny enough strained calf, but then came back.
He's hitting two sixty with a six seventy four OPS
and forty five games this season.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
So the batting is still there.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And I mean, as long as you don't have yord On,
I understand the yearning for a left handed bat in
this lineup. I think you can do a lot worse
of plugging in a guy at DH and.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Freeing Dfad hitting two sixty plus. Yeah, for a guy
who's been backing, who's just kind of you know, finding
is a he's had a he's always been a really
really good hitter. And if you're looking for a guy
to get you a clutch base hit or come in
and pinch hit, or DH around or two, or maybe
play a little first base of Chris, you have that
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versatility with Lemayhew. Good player for sure, he just not
the same as he was obviously, but I still think
he can add something to a roster if he's on
the right roster and doesn't have to play every single day.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Well, I mean there's that, and it's also I mean
you're looking at a lineup right now that I mean,
you don't want to have to play Cooper Hummel.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It's a little makeshit that even I'll give him credit,
it's a little that this is not this is not
how they envision the rest of their season going.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Let's put it that way.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Taylor's giving you some good at bats, scores the first
run last night, so I mean, it's hard to argue
with what he can do in the field, but also
on the base paths. It's just it's the consistency at
the plate that I mean. Right now, let's call it
what it is. Right now, you're batting with five guys
at the moment and hoping that the other ones come
through sick. You know what, let me take that back,
(03:20):
because I counted Kennedy cron in there six.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Because Mauricio Dubon has been really good for you.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, and there's no surprise there.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
So but you know, there's a few band aids that
they're kind of taping yourself together, right and trying to
get it done.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Rub a little dirt on it.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
But a lot of credit has to go to the
guys who we didn't expect because they've really been They've
been impressive, and it's happened in pitching staff as well.
Names that you didn't expect were going to come through,
but how long on the sustaining part can you do this?
Le Mayhew is interesting that you brought it up, Like
I said, it's not going to be Oh my gosh,
turn the baseball on. It's here saying, look we got
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dj Lemayhew. But he is a bat. Even though he's
hit in two sixty, he can contribute something because well,
he knows how to hit. And the guy is a
you've seen him. He's very confident and the versatility gives
you a little latitude if somebody's out or needs a
mistake because he can go play second base tomorrow, he
can go play third base tomorrow. More likely at this
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stage of his career, you're going to put him at
first base and at DH if you need him and
a lady and he pinch hit guy that can go
deliver a hit when it's necessary.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Those guys are important.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I think you at least visit the la Mayhew stuff
if he gets through waivers and you have an opportunity
to at least visit about it. So we were talking
about Jake Myers in the segment before last about you know,
he goes through the test yesterday imaging done. You heard
him say there was imaging done. It does sound like
that they crossed their t's and dotted their eyes before
they said all right, hey throw them out there. But
(04:51):
it started to make its rounds last night on Astros Twitter,
and the points can't be overlooked. This is now another
injury that clearly you didn't diagnose it correctly, because part
of me, when I saw him in the lineup yesterday,
I was a little surprised.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I was like, soft tissue.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You just don't know what's really necessarily a rush when
you're four games away from a break of give him
a little bit more time and then he's ready to
go as soon as the next, you know, the next
part of the season starts. But now, I mean, I've
got to believe that it was significant enough obviously for
him to leave the game again, and if that's the case,
it's going to be serious enough. But then people started
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to do a little bit of a looking through all
of the issues that you've had over the last few years,
most recently Jordan Alvarez, where you've got to have a oh,
it's just this always going to start swinging up.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Now we see a fracture in there. Kyle Tucker last year.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
All the pitchers last year that were supposedly going to
make their way back and never did. For you, I've
got to believe Sean, after this season, if I'm Jim Crane,
I've got to do an audit of that part of
my team because injuries are going to happen. I get
all of that, but the questions are still there of
the how, what, when, where and why?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
You can answer at least the last part.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
You want to get the Hey, why are we not
getting these guys back when we think we're going to
get them back?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
What's happening in between?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
That we're misdiagnosing it at the beginning, or that we're
mistreating it, either of those things. Some sort of audit
needs to be done after this scene, so.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
If I can gather what were just listening when I
interview somebody like Dana Brown weekly and you watch and
hear in the history from last year, just on the
consistency of it. Once again, I'm all for it, because
if I was in there front, I would protect the
player first as well and not cater to you first.
You know what I'm saying. I get it, but we'd
like to know. You just don't want misinformation, and I
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don't think it's intentional. I just think there's this extra
protective wall that you're almost programmed to say, well, we're
going to take it day by day, we'll see. Here's
what I do know, in my opinion, in most organizations,
and it feels like the case here, you've got to
protect the player from himself because as we're going to
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talk to him when he feels good. When they talked
about when Jake felt good, it's one thing because we're
Most athletes I know are going to say, even if
you're it's like back in the day when they didn't
test for concussions, really can you so many fingers? I
got how you did put a little smell in salt right,
got just got my bell wrong? How you feel you'd
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lie to them and then play your way through it.
Most athletes are going to say, oh, I'm good to go.
Why nobody wants to leave their glove on the mount
so somebody else come out pick it up? So I
think you go imaging and you say it and then say, okay,
we're close. The key is when you're in ninety percent,
most players feel like they're one hundred percent ready to
go and you have to protect them from their selves
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where they're you're not letting them make the final decision.
How do you feel everything's moving? You put a clock
on him and they're you know, they're run to first
base or in football, how quickly they're coming out of
How do the numbers match up before the injury? And
you want to do those and you got all that
data available to you, and then you ask, how do
you feel comfortable? Yeah, I'm ready to go. And if
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you're going, well, he's about an eighty eight ninety percent
were good to go. Yeah, he can't hurt it any where.
So let's go that that And it's it's human nature
to put trust in your players, even if they're not
one hundred percent but close once the doctor passes them.
Just when a doctor passes, he doesn't mean you're one
hundred percent comfortable. So maybe part of it is not
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allowing the player once he tells you he's good, saying okay,
that's wait a few more days, or make sure we
get this imaging done, and make sure you did. Structurally,
you're a you are as close to one hundred percent
as you're going to get. Because data made a point
yes day he's right, And I've always says once football
or baseball season starts, nobody's fully healthy though you're either
banged up, you're sore, you're tired, and you just got
to fight through it. Then the injury hits and then
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then that's a different story. So yeah, it's bothersome. And
I understand the audit you're talking about when it comes
to the injuries and how they approach him, but it
feels like and it's in an an ordinate amount, and
it feels like it's a bit of groundhog Day when
it's that part of our expectation are we got to
start thinking if it's a week, it's two. If it's
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a month, it's two. If it's three weeks, it's six weeks.
And then everything's gravy. But it's just it's the think
about this. The biggest issue we have right now is
how things are dealing with injuries. Now you think about that,
seventeen games over five hundred's pretty impressive, but it's got
to get right because I don't think you can sustain
it with constant injuries, and you got to get it right.
(09:30):
You can't let the player make the final decision on
when he goes out on the field because most want
to play.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
See and that's the point. Like where last year with
Kyle Tucker. Oh, when he feels good, we'll run him
back out there. Oh when youred On feels good, we'll
run him back out there. Stop with the mixed messaging,
like have a meeting about this before you speak into
a microphone. How about that, Yeah, don't put it on
the player, take it off the player.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
We're going to do this the right way.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
When he's ready to go, determined if he's ready to go,
the medical staff will determined he's ready to go, then
they'll be back out.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
There's three tiers to it.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
The organization feels comfortable putting him in, the players comfortable
going in and healthy, and the doctor says he's cleared
to go. I just let the doctor tells he's a
he's a physician. Let us do he's one hundred percent.
Then you turn it over the team say now we're
working to get his strength back up, or when he
feels comfortable ready to go, and when we feel comfortable
put him in. The First thing I need is one
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hundred percent recovered. His knee is one hundred percent, his
calf is one hundred percent, his shoulders one hundred percent,
his UCL's one hundred percent. It's strong, ready to go
is velocity? Because okay, so let me ask you this.
If Christian Javier is pumping it at ninety five, which
is above his normal average velo, what's hold him back
(10:47):
throwing more pitches? Okay, so at least we know that, hey,
velo's up and now it's just a matter of build up. Correct, Yeah,
at least we think Eric Gatty too. Yeah, at least
we think so you can hope with there. We hope
with Garcia. But we went to this same thing last year. Man,
Pitchers take a long time to build up, dude, instead
of the old roll your arm about five times to
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go out and start throwing. It's it's the times have
a change. And I know the money comes into it,
but man, it seems like they take a long time
to build up.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I mean, hey, he's healthy.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Now, Oh we got to go this one, then this stopped,
then this stopped, and this stopped, and this stop and
then triple a. Oh now he's ready to go from
flat to mound to partial to three pitches to ten
pitchers to twelve pitches to triple a and then he's
ready to go. I mean, the build up for pitchers
is crazy. Yet we still want them to throw one
hundred and when they're sixteen years old and throw as
hard as they can and croll hop on these videos
you see because v Lo is up but he can't
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throw a strike because he can't hit a strike. But
that's needless. That's neither here nor there. But yeah, injuries
a point of contention. Every organization will get complaints from
their fan, but I'm just telling you it just feels
an inordinate amount with this organization or with the players
this year because of in the last couple of years
about how many injuries they've had to overcome.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Where's Tom and Manski when you need them? Tom and
Manska back to back National ampis.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Isn't that a Fred McGriff think, Yeah, with the neon
hat on, it works.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Take pointing at the camera, take that kroll hop.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
And throw it into the little tube behind the home plate. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
The trash game mine, it was a pretty It was
a perfect hop too. That's what they tell you. Throw
it low enough where you get that hop and catches
a waist high.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah. Absolutely so.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
The Tom Emanski school of hitting but listen, the astros
other than are disdained or Danny's disdain for the handling
or how the injury is presented to us. The number
one thing is getting all these guys out there. I
can't listen. It'll be abnormal to see this group healthy
because we haven't seen it in two years, three years.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I just I think, if nothing else, you know, talking
about you know, team regrouping, players, mental reset, all of that,
If nothing else, just pull Joe aside before the next
and say, hey, look we're gonna have another injury. Don't
do the they feel better today, don't do that.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
How about anymore?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
How about just handling it if you want to get
how about just saying, listen, we're evaluating it. We have
no idea, and when he's got where it's at, that's it.
We are always going to air on the side of
safety and caution. So when we know that he's close
to when we have a time frame, we'll give it
to you. Until then he's not and there's nothing you
guys can do. But I mean, your guys questions aren't
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speeding up his injury. Sure, but we want to know.
But the truth that you just say listen, you guys
ask all the time. I don't know. We thought he
was ready to go. In Jordan's case, he had a setback.
The images say this, he's eighty percent or ninety percent healthy.
Now it's just a matter of pain tolerance and us
making sure we don't run him out there too soon.
And everybody's good to go, and it's strong and we're
ready to go, so it doesn't get hurt worse.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I just think unrealistic expectations are set and you do
this to yourself, which I don't doubt. I don't really
understand doing that, but we can discuss that. I know
Dan and those guys don't want to be in the
doctor business. They don't, of course they don't. They want
to be in the baseball business, and they should be.
And that's why I think a lot of this needs
to be taken off their plate. Jason ce right there,
get you involved. But don't you hate when you try
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Sean That begs the question.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I mean, he is a guy that's played a lot
of different infield positions, a DH two. I mean, you
need some offense in this lineup right now. If the
opportunity is there, not as a trade, I don't think
that you're going to go about it as a trade.
But if he clears waivers and he's free to sign wherever.
If you're Dana Brown, do you not think about it?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Yeah, because you'll get him cheap. He's in you know,
he's along in his career. He's always had great bat
control and put the ball as well, witnessed by the
two batting titles. He's been solid and there's probably still
a little love in that bat. I just don't think
he's an everyday player anymore. I mean, but can give Kenspachi.
I think he's a good guy to have on your
roster because he's always been a guy, at least for
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most of his career that can hit. And he's been
a pretty versatile player as well, so you can move
you can move him around to more than one position.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I would.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I don't know if he's a you know, it's going
to make a difference, but he's a body if you're
looking for a guy to jump on in that you're
looking for a piece, not the wow factor. And like
you said, if it's you go get him and sign
him to a contract. He's been mixed through waivers and nobody.
Then I don't think you have to pick up the
money that he's been making. You get to paying what
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you want to pay him, what he's willing to do.
And if you're DJ Lemayhew, you probably think this is
a pretty good team to be a part of. And
with all these injuries he may get a little more
run anyway. So is he the catch all that's going
to be a high demand. Probably not, But he's a
kg veteran who is who knows how to hit.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
He's just going through his struggles.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I would at least visit that if it's a possibility, Dan,
because le Mayhew's a veteran, and adding the vetter, we
see what veterans do when they come here. A lot
of times they fit right in and take care of
their business.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I wouldn't. I would have no problem with that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
He's played second, third and first he can his career
and he also did have a injury this season. He
went through a funny enough strained calf, but then came back.
He's hitting two sixty with a six seventy four OPS
and forty five games this season.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
So the batting is still there.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And I mean, as long as you don't have yord On,
I understand the yearning for a left handed bat in
this lineup. I think you can do a lot worse
of plugging in a guy at DH and.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Freeing Dfad hitting two sixty plus. Yeah, for a guy
who's been backing, who's just kind of you know, finding
is a he's had a he's always been a really
really good hitter. And if you're looking for a guy
to get you a clutch base hit or come in
and pinch hit, or DH around or two, or maybe
play a little first base of Chris, you have that
(02:35):
versatility with Lemayhew. Good player for sure, he just not
the same as he was obviously, but I still think
he can add something to a roster if he's on
the right roster and doesn't have to play every single day.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Well, I mean there's that, and it's also I mean
you're looking at a lineup right now that I mean,
you don't want to have to play Cooper Hummel.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It's a little makeshit that even I'll give him credit,
it's a little that this is not this is not
how they envision the rest of their season going.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Let's put it that way.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Taylor's giving you some good at bats, scores the first
run last night, so I mean, it's hard to argue
with what he can do in the field, but also
on the base paths. It's just it's the consistency at
the plate that I mean. Right now, let's call it
what it is. Right now, you're batting with five guys
at the moment and hoping that the other ones come
through sick. You know what, let me take that back,
(03:20):
because I counted Kennedy cron in there six.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Because Mauricio Dubon has been really good for you.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, and there's no surprise there.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
So but you know, there's a few band aids that
they're kind of taping yourself together, right and trying to
get it done.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Rub a little dirt on it.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
But a lot of credit has to go to the
guys who we didn't expect because they've really been They've
been impressive, and it's happened in pitching staff as well.
Names that you didn't expect were going to come through,
but how long on the sustaining part can you do this?
Le Mayhew is interesting that you brought it up, Like
I said, it's not going to be Oh my gosh,
turn the baseball on. It's here saying, look we got
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dj Lemayhew. But he is a bat. Even though he's
hit in two sixty, he can contribute something because well,
he knows how to hit. And the guy is a
you've seen him. He's very confident and the versatility gives
you a little latitude if somebody's out or needs a
mistake because he can go play second base tomorrow, he
can go play third base tomorrow. More likely at this
(04:20):
stage of his career, you're going to put him at
first base and at DH if you need him and
a lady and he pinch hit guy that can go
deliver a hit when it's necessary.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Those guys are important.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I think you at least visit the la Mayhew stuff
if he gets through waivers and you have an opportunity
to at least visit about it. So we were talking
about Jake Myers in the segment before last about you know,
he goes through the test yesterday imaging done. You heard
him say there was imaging done. It does sound like
that they crossed their t's and dotted their eyes before
they said all right, hey throw them out there. But
(04:51):
it started to make its rounds last night on Astros Twitter,
and the points can't be overlooked. This is now another
injury that clearly you didn't diagnose it correctly, because part
of me, when I saw him in the lineup yesterday,
I was a little surprised.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I was like, soft tissue.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You just don't know what's really necessarily a rush when
you're four games away from a break of give him
a little bit more time and then he's ready to
go as soon as the next, you know, the next
part of the season starts. But now, I mean, I've
got to believe that it was significant enough obviously for
him to leave the game again, and if that's the case,
it's going to be serious enough. But then people started
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to do a little bit of a looking through all
of the issues that you've had over the last few years,
most recently Jordan Alvarez, where you've got to have a oh,
it's just this always going to start swinging up.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Now we see a fracture in there. Kyle Tucker last year.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
All the pitchers last year that were supposedly going to
make their way back and never did. For you, I've
got to believe Sean, after this season, if I'm Jim Crane,
I've got to do an audit of that part of
my team because injuries are going to happen. I get
all of that, but the questions are still there of
the how, what, when, where and why?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
You can answer at least the last part.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
You want to get the Hey, why are we not
getting these guys back when we think we're going to
get them back?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
What's happening in between?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
That we're misdiagnosing it at the beginning, or that we're
mistreating it, either of those things. Some sort of audit
needs to be done after this scene, so.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
If I can gather what were just listening when I
interview somebody like Dana Brown weekly and you watch and
hear in the history from last year, just on the
consistency of it. Once again, I'm all for it, because
if I was in there front, I would protect the
player first as well and not cater to you first.
You know what I'm saying. I get it, but we'd
like to know. You just don't want misinformation, and I
(06:45):
don't think it's intentional. I just think there's this extra
protective wall that you're almost programmed to say, well, we're
going to take it day by day, we'll see. Here's
what I do know, in my opinion, in most organizations,
and it feels like the case here, you've got to
protect the player from himself because as we're going to
(07:05):
talk to him when he feels good. When they talked
about when Jake felt good, it's one thing because we're
Most athletes I know are going to say, even if
you're it's like back in the day when they didn't
test for concussions, really can you so many fingers? I
got how you did put a little smell in salt right,
got just got my bell wrong? How you feel you'd
(07:25):
lie to them and then play your way through it.
Most athletes are going to say, oh, I'm good to go.
Why nobody wants to leave their glove on the mount
so somebody else come out pick it up? So I
think you go imaging and you say it and then say, okay,
we're close. The key is when you're in ninety percent,
most players feel like they're one hundred percent ready to
go and you have to protect them from their selves
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where they're you're not letting them make the final decision.
How do you feel everything's moving? You put a clock
on him and they're you know, they're run to first
base or in football, how quickly they're coming out of
How do the numbers match up before the injury? And
you want to do those and you got all that
data available to you, and then you ask, how do
you feel comfortable? Yeah, I'm ready to go. And if
(08:06):
you're going, well, he's about an eighty eight ninety percent
were good to go. Yeah, he can't hurt it any where.
So let's go that that And it's it's human nature
to put trust in your players, even if they're not
one hundred percent but close once the doctor passes them.
Just when a doctor passes, he doesn't mean you're one
hundred percent comfortable. So maybe part of it is not
(08:27):
allowing the player once he tells you he's good, saying okay,
that's wait a few more days, or make sure we
get this imaging done, and make sure you did. Structurally,
you're a you are as close to one hundred percent
as you're going to get. Because data made a point
yes day he's right, And I've always says once football
or baseball season starts, nobody's fully healthy though you're either
banged up, you're sore, you're tired, and you just got
to fight through it. Then the injury hits and then
(08:48):
then that's a different story. So yeah, it's bothersome. And
I understand the audit you're talking about when it comes
to the injuries and how they approach him, but it
feels like and it's in an an ordinate amount, and
it feels like it's a bit of groundhog Day when
it's that part of our expectation are we got to
start thinking if it's a week, it's two. If it's
(09:08):
a month, it's two. If it's three weeks, it's six weeks.
And then everything's gravy. But it's just it's the think
about this. The biggest issue we have right now is
how things are dealing with injuries. Now you think about that,
seventeen games over five hundred's pretty impressive, but it's got
to get right because I don't think you can sustain
it with constant injuries, and you got to get it right.
(09:30):
You can't let the player make the final decision on
when he goes out on the field because most want
to play.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
See and that's the point. Like where last year with
Kyle Tucker. Oh, when he feels good, we'll run him
back out there. Oh when youred On feels good, we'll
run him back out there. Stop with the mixed messaging,
like have a meeting about this before you speak into
a microphone. How about that, Yeah, don't put it on
the player, take it off the player.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
We're going to do this the right way.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
When he's ready to go, determined if he's ready to go,
the medical staff will determined he's ready to go, then
they'll be back out.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
There's three tiers to it.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
The organization feels comfortable putting him in, the players comfortable
going in and healthy, and the doctor says he's cleared
to go. I just let the doctor tells he's a
he's a physician. Let us do he's one hundred percent.
Then you turn it over the team say now we're
working to get his strength back up, or when he
feels comfortable ready to go, and when we feel comfortable
put him in. The First thing I need is one
(10:26):
hundred percent recovered. His knee is one hundred percent, his
calf is one hundred percent, his shoulders one hundred percent,
his UCL's one hundred percent. It's strong, ready to go
is velocity? Because okay, so let me ask you this.
If Christian Javier is pumping it at ninety five, which
is above his normal average velo, what's hold him back
(10:47):
throwing more pitches? Okay, so at least we know that, hey,
velo's up and now it's just a matter of build up. Correct, Yeah,
at least we think Eric Gatty too. Yeah, at least
we think so you can hope with there. We hope
with Garcia. But we went to this same thing last year. Man,
Pitchers take a long time to build up, dude, instead
of the old roll your arm about five times to
(11:07):
go out and start throwing. It's it's the times have
a change. And I know the money comes into it,
but man, it seems like they take a long time
to build up.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I mean, hey, he's healthy.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Now, Oh we got to go this one, then this stopped,
then this stopped, and this stopped, and this stop and
then triple a. Oh now he's ready to go from
flat to mound to partial to three pitches to ten
pitchers to twelve pitches to triple a and then he's
ready to go. I mean, the build up for pitchers
is crazy. Yet we still want them to throw one
hundred and when they're sixteen years old and throw as
hard as they can and croll hop on these videos
you see because v Lo is up but he can't
(11:37):
throw a strike because he can't hit a strike. But
that's needless. That's neither here nor there. But yeah, injuries
a point of contention. Every organization will get complaints from
their fan, but I'm just telling you it just feels
an inordinate amount with this organization or with the players
this year because of in the last couple of years
about how many injuries they've had to overcome.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Where's Tom and Manski when you need them? Tom and
Manska back to back National ampis.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Isn't that a Fred McGriff think, Yeah, with the neon
hat on, it works.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Take pointing at the camera, take that kroll hop.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
And throw it into the little tube behind the home plate. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
The trash game mine, it was a pretty It was
a perfect hop too. That's what they tell you. Throw
it low enough where you get that hop and catches
a waist high.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah. Absolutely so.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
The Tom Emanski school of hitting but listen, the astros
other than are disdained or Danny's disdain for the handling
or how the injury is presented to us. The number
one thing is getting all these guys out there. I
can't listen. It'll be abnormal to see this group healthy
because we haven't seen it in two years, three years.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I just I think, if nothing else, you know, talking
about you know, team regrouping, players, mental reset, all of that,
If nothing else, just pull Joe aside before the next
and say, hey, look we're gonna have another injury. Don't
do the they feel better today, don't do that.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
How about anymore?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
How about just handling it if you want to get
how about just saying, listen, we're evaluating it. We have
no idea, and when he's got where it's at, that's it.
We are always going to air on the side of
safety and caution. So when we know that he's close
to when we have a time frame, we'll give it
to you. Until then he's not and there's nothing you
guys can do. But I mean, your guys questions aren't
(13:21):
speeding up his injury. Sure, but we want to know.
But the truth that you just say listen, you guys
ask all the time. I don't know. We thought he
was ready to go. In Jordan's case, he had a setback.
The images say this, he's eighty percent or ninety percent healthy.
Now it's just a matter of pain tolerance and us
making sure we don't run him out there too soon.
And everybody's good to go, and it's strong and we're
ready to go, so it doesn't get hurt worse.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I just think unrealistic expectations are set and you do
this to yourself, which I don't doubt. I don't really
understand doing that, but we can discuss that. I know
Dan and those guys don't want to be in the
doctor business. They don't, of course they don't. They want
to be in the baseball business, and they should be.
And that's why I think a lot of this needs
to be taken off their plate. Jason ce right there,
get you involved. But don't you hate when you try
(14:02):
to buy someone's legendary apartment but then the neighbors get
in your way. That happened to somebody. We'll discuss it here.
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