Guardians' Sweep Astros, Jake Meyers Undergoing Evaluation, Potential Prospects Before Trade Deadline

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salisbury old very Salisbury Houston. Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
To usc True's longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
The first time since twenty seventeen.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
To two to one, and Martinez golf's this one deep
to left and that one is gone on hell. Martinez
a grand slam and his last in bad yesterday, a
solo home run in his first at bat today, and
the Guardians have a one nothing lead, a two to one,
and that's golf to left pretty deep, and Trebell will
watch that one go.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Here's a three two to Martinez tway and.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
A mess stroking out on a cutter, seventh strikeout for Walter,
who has now retired seventeen in a row, one zero
and Duban hits this one toward left center field, and
that's to get down for a base hit and roll
all the way onto the warning track, racing for third
and a round third travel he will score. It's an

(01:07):
RBI double for Dubon and the Astros are on the board.
It's four to one Guardians and al Twove wraps this
one in the left field and that's gonna get down
for a base hit, one hop to the wall pass,
guad Dubon scores al Twove in a second base with
an RBI double. It's four to two Guardians. So Jose
al Twove comes through yet again. He's driven in fifteen

(01:28):
runs in his last eight games. Now the one two
and that is strike three call at the top of
the zone, and that is the ball game. The Cleveland
Guardians sweep the Houston Astros, winning today four to two.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Oh man, what is just an amazing night over there?
And of course say that incredibly tongue in cheek. And
when that we saying away, we go and good morning
here on the Sean Salisbury Show. At least the show's
having fun. It was not very very fun last night,
Sean for the Astros over at dyke In Park.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
No, it wasn't. I listen, I don't know why they're
losing these last three. I got a good idea, I do.
But you get my point. I'm right now focused on
Ludvig Oberg. Okay, that's what my focus on. This is
where I tried to get my swing, like kid, you
like great swings and he cannot lie. Yeah, and I
had Unfortunately I can't emulate it. H this swing and truth, yeah,

(02:28):
I'm a little uh okay, So how do you explain
doing what you've done in this well, really in the
month of June and in early July and you roll
in and kick the Dodgers ass, how do you explain
losing three in a Rodeo team lost ten straight out
of gas. They put together good at bats, They did

(02:53):
have all the cliches.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
See they actually, yeah, he puts together a really good
at bat.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
Steve Sparks shut out to that guy. We love that guy.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
But no, I mean they they did put together good
played approaches, and I mean better than this whole series.
The Astros didn't have played approaches, and their best player
delivered every game. I mean he got he does all
the time. And it was like, you're going to start
giving him the yord On in the playoffs treatment right here, guys, I.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
Told you he's one of the I think he's the
most underrated player in Major League Baseball. I do. And
he never wants to leave them, No, absolutely not. And
for about ninety million dollars, probably more less than he
could have got somewhere else over the course of a contract.
Hundred million bucks I just I watch him play and
it's not just him. They got you know, the Roki.
I mean they they were, they delivered. But when I'm
watching this, how does a team that's lost ten in

(03:43):
a row, that's not very good this year, but has
some players and you know you're better than them, But
how do you win? How do you go on the
road and beat a team that's well is as good
as there is in baseball and proved that Dodger Stadium.
How do you beat him? Your best player or players
have to deliver, and you got to get clutch pitching. Well,
they've got it to back end the bullpen and uh

(04:06):
and their best player has homeward in three straight games
at the right time. And if you has any homeward
in two of them in the first inning, yeah, the
second and third game in the series, right, so they
and in the last two. I'm trying to hell, I'm
taking it all the way back to even though it's
only a few days to Monday. But I can tell

(04:28):
you this, who started fast in these series? And did
these games? Dan the Cleveland's come out quickly and got
clutch at bats early, and who's been chasing the entire series?
The astros and unfortunately right now, even though they hung
in there Tuesday night. As you know, we talked to
Dana Brown yesterday about how and you and I discussed
resilient down and finally you know, they're getting there. Ask

(04:50):
kick what six to one on the fourth inning and
found their way back to get to extra innings, So
that part of the grit and resilience, but didn't close
it out, and that usually is We're not going to
judge it too much. I remember when they came back
and still lost. We do only because it's so close
to memory. But three weeks from now, it's going to
be a loss, right, We're just gonna look at it
as an l This is what I this is what

(05:11):
I hated to think about going into the to the
to the All Star Game. Now, like you said, you've
got some help and it's important that the other guys
are at a legal helping you, so teams aren't gaining
on you. But I just don't like the feel because
it feels to me the sense of it. Now I
may be wrong, doesn't mean they're not prepared or they're
they've checked out, none of that, but there is a

(05:32):
sense of urgency that goes with it. And I just
told you, if you're not on guard the whole time,
you're going to find out who they play next. It's
not it ain't gonna be easy to to to go
in and sweep them. I mean here at home sweep
the Rangers. That that's not gonna be an easy to
easy to want a serious against them right now exactly.
So let's just say you won one. What I tell

(05:55):
you going in, one of the things I did not
like is is heading into the all start break one
in five. And even though it's one in five, and
let's say you only lost the game in the standings,
what's your feeling coming out of this thing at the
All Star Game? Are you completely relaxed? How I need?
You may say I needed this, but aren't you in
your mind think about the last thing you do. What's

(06:17):
the last thing you do when you play golf? If
you hit a g if you make a birdie on
eighteen after you swore you'll never play again, Oh, you're
excited to come back out the next day. What happens
when you're going and all of a sudden you triple
bogeye and you're going for your best score ever and
you triple bogie or you're having one of those rounds
and any triple bogey in four putt on the eighteenth green,
the wrench just get dust right for a while, right,
And it's just it's you're pissed, right, even if it's

(06:39):
just a fun round, that competitive part of you and
then you're like, oh gosh, and you go home and
it kind of just sits in your crawl, right. It
does mine, I know, because you know you play sports
and then you're looking for that competitive sport that you
can play when you're retired. For me, that's it. For
some it may be pick a ball. Just like the golf,
even though I'm playing by myself, it has nothing to
do with the opponent has everything. I never worried about

(07:00):
the appoint just like if you're playing with a buddy,
it's it's my sean. You've done this enough times not
to three put from eight feet right, And it's same here.
But this is their profession, that's our hobby and casual fun.
So it's only human if you're not bothered going into
the All Star break. If if the Rangers win this series,
first of all, it's a rival. Second, you've had been
playing great baseball. Yeah, I don't want any speed bumps

(07:22):
for fine, but that's a roadblock one in five, even
if they have only gained a game on you. There's
just a negative feeling. Okay, you go on vacation after
your worst week of your you go on vacation. You're
glad to be on vacation. But aren't you thinking I
missed out on four sales. I got to get back
home when the vacation. So there is something that hovers
right and you got to get back because you say, man,

(07:43):
I'm better than I got to close this out. Same
thing here, this bothers me.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Keep an eye.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
I'm gonna tell you, Oh, it'll be great. Just get to
the All Star break. You can't just get to the
All Star break. Now, you're trying to fight and scratch
to split the six games. So when you get into
the All Star break, at least you played five hundred baseball.
I just I'm psychologically I'm big on this because oh,
it's not that big a deal. It is to me.

(08:08):
And remember you're dealing with a team that's got a
bunch of guys that are transcribed that every single at
bat or pitch for a lot of these guys, like
they're also thinking, well, when the guys come off injury,
I need to play great so I can stay here
or get my opportunity right right, and I want to
get moved at the trade deadline.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
All those things.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
So there's so many when you just check the box,
there's so many things on the when you go into
the All Star break. I'm just I'll just speak from
my experiences. If I had my worst game in my
career or a bad game going into a bye week,
doing the bye week sucked, why you could do nothing
about it? You got plenty off to even and you're

(08:45):
not vacationing. I didn't vacation during my bye week. Why
why would you get on a plane when you're on
a plane all the time? Right, And plus you know
you're trying to refocus like it's a little downtime, but
you're still watching tape of the next opponent. There's other
games on, so you're still immersed in football. Sure, but
you come I mean, even if you weren't taking a
bye week. The heart The greatest thing about if you
lose or win, you can't focus on either for a

(09:07):
long period of time because we get back in the
building on Monday, you're right back at the next opponent,
right watching a little tape. But by Monday, after you
watch that tape, you're already thinking about, man, we got
to play Pittsburgh this week, and then you're focused on that,
and then the bye week, if you go into it,
you come out now. I always remember bye weeks when
you play well in kick Ass, the bye weeks is

(09:28):
awesome because you're sitting there at five and one, played
great going into the bye week. You come and that
confidence doesn't waiver During the bye week, when you've got
too much time on your hands and your mind's like
mine where it runs, you start to go through all
the ifs scenaris. And it's even worse when you lose
or you played poorly because you feel like you let
your teammates down. And here is it panic, Absolutely not.

(09:48):
You're now seventeen games over five hundred. Okay, you're playing
really good baseball. But Dan, these things can have a
lasting effect. But if you come out out of it
and you go two and seven, two and eight, whatever
it is on your next ten games or three, well, Sean,
they're not gonna do that well.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
They could.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
People have been waiting for them to go through one
of these streaks. I just do not like the field,
and then you got to let it fester over that
time period, and it's it's hard to enjoy and really
get to get get the relax not just your physical
rec it's not even the physical relaxation.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
You know what they need.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
You need mental relaxation at the All Star break and
a bye week. It's you want to get your body right,
but the mental part almost makes the body heal quicker,
sure if it's feeling good. So I hate I hate
that they just got swept by a team that lost
ten in row. Cleveland's respectable, they always are, and their
best player always plays well. I just you go in

(10:38):
and now you tell me there's not a little more
added uh of pressure, of grind of a little bit
not desperate, but a little desperation, because also there's that sidebar.
You're not playing the A's that you expect to were
now playing Colorado. You're playing Arrival that's down the interstate
that they would love to come in here and sweep you.
And then have that hovering over your head going through

(10:58):
the All Star break.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
I mean, I understand, and you can't ride high all
the time always you're gonna read line, you're gonna just
run out of juice. But at the same time though too,
I mean, you've got to be able to kind of
level this thing out and astros than Max.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
And I mean, I'm I'm not even talking about going
out there and winning ten to one. I'm just talking
about surviving, grabbing yourself a couple of wins, and playing
solid baseball. So when you go so you're feeling good,
You're right, you can't. Nobody can be a Comedians can't
be on all the time. If they are, they'll burn out.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Well, I mean, and to your point, the Dodgers series,
how did hose Al Tuove do in that series?

Speaker 5 (11:30):
You tell me how did Yanar Diez do in that series?

Speaker 6 (11:32):
Well?

Speaker 5 (11:33):
And how did Christian Walker do? All very elevated. Yeah,
they're credit three of your players, your best players, that's right,
in the biggest series that you've had. You know, when
you're playing the Dodge, don't kid yourself. That's his biggest
series they've played all year, just on the road, Dodger Stadium,
possible World Series, hopeful, best team in baseball, it mattered
Camp Smith, that's right, throw him in there. No doubt

(11:53):
damn with Christian Walker. Let me ask you this, and
I was thinking about this morning. He's on paternityly right, Yes,
is the baby healthy? Is mom healthy?

Speaker 3 (12:02):
I mean I haven't seen or heard anything. I don't
even know if he's just the social media.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Yeah, I just I'm just the reason why I asked this,
and and I this isn't a derogatory commentary that because
I you know how I feel about family and that
that's the most important all that. But for instance, when
like with Danny Green when I was in Minnesota having
a child, he may made you get your butt to

(12:26):
just come back when you're ready. You go that like
if you say, well, I'm gonna miss Wednesday, which you.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Don't want to miss the Adam gay thing of wife
gives birth, and then you show back up, and then
Peyton Manning has to be the one thing, what the
hell are you doing here, Peyton Manning of all people?

Speaker 5 (12:41):
Exactly, So Danny say, go home, spend time with your family,
and then the next day you'd bring cigars to the
felt when the baby was born and you mom was good, Yeah,
you went back to work the next day. And plus
if it was you had it on an off day
or on a Monday, you'd be they take Tuesday off.
Wednesday is an important day, so you'd get back in
the building if everything was healthy with mom, and it
was my case, thank goodness. I just wondered if if
the baby's healthy, if baby's healthy and and mom's healthy,

(13:05):
and everything's good, and you know, grandparents or somebody are
in town, or you got somebody, why is it. What's
the pattern of I'm not being this a smart ass, right,
Why do you need eight or ten days to do this?

Speaker 3 (13:20):
The only thing I can think of is that during
the off season he lives in South Carolina, So maybe
it was a travel thing of travel there, child's born,
you go home, you do all that kind of stuff,
And maybe it was just already predetermined ahead of time.
I come back on the off day Friday, you're ready
to go and see back for this series.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
I haven't seen you. That's my question. I get these
three games and you're flying and you're doing it. Want
to make sure mom gets settled in baby, that's the
most important thing. But I'm just wondering, if he doesn't
play in this series and everybody's healthy, you know, mom
and baby, and you go why aren't you playing well again?

Speaker 3 (14:00):
I mean, I just without getting any other clarity, I mean,
that's all I can think of is that the baby
wasn't born here, so he I mean, I think if
if they had the child here, then probably he is back.
I was a baby born. I mean, he wasn't here
on Mondays. So my guess is sometime within that timeframe
Monday or Tuesday.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
Like I said, if I'm a coach, you go home
spend It's like coaches it. I had a couple of coaches,
John Cooper, remember the great Ohio State coach from in
Arizona State. When I was doing a game and I interviewed,
don't have to play against Michigan, Right, yeah, go ahead.
You know what John Cooper did, which is good and
some coaches have done it and more do it now?
Is you know that old where does a badge of
honor stay at the complex till to two in the

(14:41):
morning and sometimes sleep at the complex. The Coke Coop
would go and open up all of his assistants stores.
At dinner time, I say, go home, you go have
dinner with your family. He wanted, We're not staying here
all night, right, will you go have dinner, you can
come back and do it. You go spend He wanted
you to go spend time with your family during every day,
so it wasn't you'd leave it five in the morning,
go study tape, practice and show back up too in

(15:02):
the morning. You don't even get to put your kids
to bed. He encourage it. Either dinner with the family
or run home at seven and thirty eight o'clock. You
give your bathe your young kids and put him in bed,
and you put him, read him a story, hang with
your you know, your wife's significant other, few few minutes,
and if you've got to go back and watch tape
at nine o'clock till midnight, go back and watch tapetnine
o'clock at midnight, because most people live closer to the complex.
So you do that. But or go home for dinner

(15:24):
at five, see with your kids. Seven o'clock, you see
him bathe, sit down, little story time and then you
go back to work at seven thirty till midnight. Whatever
it is. And it's so that's why I'm asking here.
If the baby's healthy and he had it even in
South Carolina, wouldn't he come back today to be in
the series for the weekend. I mean, as long as
everybody's healthy. I don't know their protocol, but what would

(15:46):
make you extended if it's not health related? And I
pray for the mom and the baby with everything's okay,
I haven't heard anything different if you I'm just and
I'm not making a big deal of it, but it
did keep my mind because I can't remember unless everybody
was healthy, or if something was wrong or there's complications.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
You had the baby on a Monday. I'm not talking
about him. If you had a baby on a Monday.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
In NFL, since tuesdays off, you'd be back at work
Wednesday morning, six six o'clock. So I'm just curious what
or if it's just you know, it's just all part
of it. Like he said, it's been playing for months,
but even planned for months. If everybody's healthy, why why
do you need and then you got the All Star?
Why do you need two weeks just to get people
settled in. I'm just I'm France got a week. Well,

(16:31):
it's gonna end up being two weeks while time the
All Star. Oh yeah, I get what you're saying. It's
gonna end up being two weeks.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
If he's not back for them. If he's not back
for the series with this, you'll go, you won't be
back in action until a week from tomorrow. That's when
you play again, and it would it will be just
under two weeks. So that's why I'm asking if everything's
a goal, but most of the time and paternity stuff,
when you're going, it's baby's born, everybody's healthy, get them home.

(16:59):
Then next day you're back. The next day you're on
a flight back, and you're meeting the team wherever they go,
as long as it'll come at the most two days.
So I'm just kind of wondering. And if it's at
the Astros way and mister Crane and the rest of
us say no, what we do here and I love
it if it's family. If that's not, I want you
want to make sure everybody's healthy. But if not, why

(17:20):
wouldn't he be here for If everybody's healthy, why wouldn't
he be back here on a private plane or something
or regular flight getting ready for this series tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
I mean, again, without having any other definitive information, I
would assume that he will be okay.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
And if that's the case, all perfect, no problem. Sure,
And he's not I mean, listen, there's other reasons. I
was just curious because I was thinking, man, he was hot,
you could use him. I don't want him take it
two weeks off unless mom and baby need help or
grandparents can't be there, and he's got to be there
to help mother. I get it completely, So I'm all
family first. But so with that, Dan and I know
we're lad. What even playing attention of the clock? Were
you watching it? So it's just, oh, they're not even

(18:00):
right now? Too early? No zero and three bothers me
because you know how concerned I was going to this.
I thought you should be laser focused as much as
ever for these six games because it's too easy to
get out of rhythm.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
What about a little bit more concern and maybe we
even got some last night before a ball was even thrown.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
Well you hear that right here?

Speaker 3 (18:20):
It is the Sewn Salisbury Show getting started here on
a Thursday of Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Let's go, this is the Sean Salisbury Show. And all
of a sudden we have enough for the All Star Game.
But you couldn't build it up to this point. I mean,
I get that you want to start a season with it,
Go with it. Do all that kind of stuff. That's fine,
but you could have done this if you wanted to
do it.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Well.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
First thing you got to stop believing is whether it's
government or front offices or when it comes to like
the NBA offices or the Major League Baseball offices or
the NFL offices or politics, stop believing they tell you
they can't or they can't do something. Okay, that's where
fact they were not equipped to that. They're equipped just fine,
thank you.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Don't believe people who look out for their own self
interest against yours.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
That's weird and what a shock, right, So I'm okay
with it, and to say it's an exhibition, go for it,
go for it. But the equipped, they're equipped to do
it in every stadium tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Stop it.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
See and I love in this.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Just this stinks of a plant of supposedly players who
are skeptical of the system.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
You know, I don't.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
I don't even know if you if I necessarily know
what the strike's on is, stop it like that's that's
somebody being fed a story right there. The players want this.
The players want this in the worst way because, if
nothing else, the probably weakest part of your game, umpiring
wise is this is balls and strikes. And it's not
to say that the accuracy is still not really good.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
It's good in the nineties. I mean, it's pretty good
nighties in college.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Oh, it'll get you in a and it'll get you
promoted in real life. So that's all fine and good.
But you know, it's also something that could be fine
tuned even more. You've done it with incidant replay. Now
I would like to see two replays or at least
two challenges allowed to you.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
But again, you're trying to speed up the game. All
this is is a precursor. There's no way once they
introduce this they're going back. They're just not. They want
to get them right, and it's all about speeding up
games and all that stuff. And you know, hell, if
I was a player, the only reason I wouldn't want
it is because I kind of like a little argument
with the umpire once in a while, you know what
I'm saying. I don't know the human nature part of baseball.

(20:35):
It feels like, you know certain things in your life,
say oh, once it's gone, that part of that to
take a piece of your heart away. I don't know
if we're at that if anybody's like sentimental towards this
of old school matters and just having the umpire there,
I think most people are now or two and players
want it right as close to right as they can.

(20:55):
And I'm sure they'll still find a way to argue
it and do their thing, but it's come and once
it's like I said, you give them the diamond ring.
They ain't taking cubic zircona. You ain't going back, so
when they do, it'll be a whole new, weird look
and kind of like when you went through an airport
in a different way, obviously, and you're like before they started,

(21:15):
by the way, we can keep our shoes of TSA now,
so they did go back with that, but leave our
laptops in our bags, remember pre nine eleven. But when
you're in high school and stuff and you were going
through it, you just walk. You can walk them to
the gate. And then when they I still can't remember
now what with all the flying, I can't remember now.
Once they switched what we used to do before, we
had to do all the crap we have to.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Do to get your family could be right there at
the gate.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
Gate right right, but all the checking like taking shoes off.
Did you have to show idea? I mean, just like,
here's your ticket, get you know what I'm saying, I
say it right, it's the same with this. It's just
like the bigger base is that, Well, there's gimmicks it'll
do three years from now. If they've done this for
five years, frow, it's gonna be like, oh, that's right.
We used to have a guy that crouched behind home
plate and call balls strikes. We have, but it's it's

(21:59):
the way of the world. We're doing it, and I
would most players want the strike zone right now, Who's
going to be more pissed by it? Who is it?
Both pitcher and both pitcher and hitter love it.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Now.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
Framing's going out the window. I would think, well, yeah,
we're gonna be happy about that. John Smoltz, Yeah, well,
well yeah, because your catcher stance is a little different.
Thrown runners out and pouncing and the rest of it.
So and defending balls that are in the dirt on
two you know, when you've got you when you got
one knee downs. Now, some will say it's easier, and
John Smoltz absolutely despises it. But when we finally get

(22:34):
to that point, are the pictures happier or the hitters?
Because I've always though about because pictures. You know, if
you've got a guys calling balls out outside the strike zone,
you're like, I want that call once. Well you're not
going to get it anymore. And then I would assume
pitchers prefer. Would you think that pitchers prefer real bodies
at home play? What what I mean? Which one do

(22:56):
you feel like, you know.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Because you're arguable ball? Is it close? Right?

Speaker 5 (22:59):
Which one gets the bigger advantage?

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Well, I mean I would say that it evens out
for both because all the course of a game, I agree,
you know, maybe you find out, hey, this guy's calling
it a little further outside, so I'll continue to exploit that.
Whereas you know, for hitters, I mean maybe you get
away with one or maybe even two, you get burned
by that. So then it's one of those. And I
don't buy for a second that hitters are skeptical of

(23:24):
not knowing the zone.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
These guys are pros. They know the zone, yes, and
guess what and if they how many times is it
going to miss the zone? I mean the computer, I'm
you know, when you when you get the electronics, Rake
they're they're they're going to get the zone. If you
want put it this way, if it's in the ninetieth percentile,
it's going to be in the high nineties or close
to one hundred. As you can get what it just is,
they'll be, they'll be, they'll be you know, gaffs and

(23:46):
things that go on their problem once in a while,
there to be, you know, a little hiccup. But I
imagine I just got to get over the optics of
old Sokoff seeings. You know that we're not getting ha ha,
you know, and ringing people up the way they do
when they still just that that part of it. But
eventually you say, well they got it right, and it
goes back to you want it right, but speeding up

(24:06):
the game where guys aren't taking their time out, you know,
ball setting there, arguing balls and strikes. For the most part,
you're going to live with it. I would think, I
just wonder who feels psychologically has an advantage because you're
a low ball pitch or you know you're down on
the zone or you like to the pitch is away
and if you're if you're a pitcher and you're not
getting the strike that day, that day. The hitter loves
it and the pitcher doesn't. But that can change the

(24:27):
other way as well.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
You saw that for Hunter Brown tight zone the other
night and he had to work more in the strike zone,
and well.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
You saw the results of that. So there's gonna be.
It just feels like the hitter should have it, feels
more comfortable with it, knowing that you're not gonna get
wrung up on a ball two yards or to two
inches outside the strike zone at least you hope.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
I don't think you have Eric Greig back there anymore,
so I don't think you have to worry about that.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
But it's it's it should be fair fairly and you
know what, like I said, once they get it in
and that you're not getting back all right.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
So another astro goes down last night? Was it prevent
We'll let you hear from the two parties involved. And
also you can decide seven one three two one two
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you by one eight hundred car cash listening to the
beginning of the game, Sean and I, you know, hear
them going through the lineup, Steve Sparks doing all of that,
and then finally Robert Ford goes there's a delay and
that the assistant trainer and Joe A. Spotta are out
there in center field, and I'm like, oh no, and

(25:35):
again I'm listening, I don't see it. But then they
said that Myers gingerly walking off the field, didn't even
go back to the dugout, went immediately to the right
field gate, where I'm guessing X rays all of those
different types of things out there, and he's off the field.
Immediately my mind goes to because we're fresh off of
Tyrese Haliburton, he had the calf issue, and then what

(25:58):
he rips up doesn't sound like that's the case here
with Myers. But still that happens even before you play
the game. That's just him jogging out to the field
and it all of a sudden tightens up on them.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
Yeah, well tight calves. Is that what you're telling me?
That's what they said. Ye's but that's this morning's diagnosis
so far. YEP. I would understand why you'd be overly
concerned about it. Aside from the fact that he's playing
good baseball. How does it happen when the game hadn't

(26:33):
started yet, you know, if you're going for maybe during
his sprints in the outfield to get loose or whatever
it was. Yeah, I would understand the concern of calf
as opposed to Achilles or both. Yeah, I would have
concerned because we've seen the movie. Not with him, but
we've seen the movie, and anytime it starts to creep
down to that area, we don't think it's just simply
a strained or a tight calf. We automatically go to

(26:57):
something wrong with the Achilles. Let's hope not. But yeah,
like I said, willke Up's like, WEOK, this can't be
that serious, right the pregame is it? But a lot
of times non contact or pregame, that type of injury
ends up being something you don't want to hear because
if it happened, that's simply then it's like, well, was
it bound to happen anyway? Right, one of those things

(27:18):
like things you can't control. Let's hope it's not serious.
Things back at it, and it's definitely let's hope it's
not an Achilles. Let's hear a year, he won't see
you won't see Jake till this time next year, if
that was the case, right, But there's no need to
play doctor and borrow trouble. I just don't like it
because those like non competitive injury when it's you just
get loose, gives you a cause for concern. Let's hope

(27:40):
it's minor.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Well, and let's hear from Astro's manager Joe Espotta, who
was asked about the decision to play Myers last night
and what they did before deciding to put him in
the lineup.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
Well, we did a lot of tests before we decided
to run him in the lineup, and we feel comfortable
and strongly about putt.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Him in there.

Speaker 7 (28:00):
And then before he takes a feel on he's way
to his position, just tying up on him and Myers.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
After the game was in the clubhouse, Brian McTaggart, everybody
in there with him, and they caught up with them
and asked him about what he went through before the
game to determine if he could play.

Speaker 8 (28:18):
Munch of screening a good amount of screening, get you know,
dynamic or him up cuts cuts.

Speaker 6 (28:25):
Him and out.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
So good doing all that.

Speaker 9 (28:31):
Get you know, twenty twenty five minute workout.

Speaker 10 (28:36):
Hit.

Speaker 9 (28:38):
You know, I went through the day and I could
I can meet other day.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
So trying to get more information tomorrow, all right, get
more information tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
Keep that in mind, right there? Cut today?

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, So well, I guess maybe we'll find out probably
even more tomorrow with the off day to day. But
speaking of Brian McTaggart, listen to his question and then
more importantly, listen to myers.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
Sponse, say that again, I don't see that one. Oh,
I thought I had it in there. We can have
that for you later.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
But when Myers was asked if it was worse than
the last time, he had to think about it for
a second, and then he goes, I don't know, we'll
see tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
Like it's like another guy that's gonna be gone for
some time. I think as a player, you have a
pretty good idea if it's you usually have pretty good
idea if it's minor. I've never had an injury that
it was severe that I thought was minor. Does that
make sense? Sure in both my knees and blowing out

(29:37):
his shoulder, and I've never had a knee that that
man when I the knee injury came back. I thought, oh,
it's just a it just wrenched it a little bit.
I had a pretty good idea. So, but that if
it is a calf that's not structure, apparently that would
be soft tissue. Correct, So whether it's structural or soft tissue,
and hopefully it's not down the achilles. But he may

(29:58):
even have an idea, and he's not talking about because
he wants to see the final result. But to go
out there and go through twenty five minute dynamic warm
up and feel great and then be jogging out to
the position, it's like, uh no that that. Of course,
it's a little concerned because it's the unknown, and that's bothersome.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Well, i'll see if that concern is alleviated again, Brian McTaggart,
listen to his question and then listen to myers response.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
He does.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
See that.

Speaker 11 (30:32):
They're doing.

Speaker 9 (30:35):
That's that's all I got.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Sorry, that's all I got. Can't answer that.

Speaker 5 (30:41):
Well, I guess you'll know by tomorrow at least after that. Well,
once again, if it's even if it's eighty five percent,
or if it's not healthy, he's obviously not going to
play through the weekend. I think we know now that
Jake Myers is going on the shelf. I don't think
we have to wait till tomorrow. And I think we
got a good idea right now. The bum er, that's

(31:01):
that's odd how that happens. Right, Hopefully he's okay, because
almost you need him in his bat.

Speaker 11 (31:10):
Right now.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
More than the three hundred guy. Right now, you need
him in his bat. And let's hope that if he
is out today that it's one of those that this
and the All Star break will be enough for us
to get him back in the lineup soon, not only defensively,
but the way he's played offensively. The last thing this team,
this team can ill afford to keep I mean, as

(31:32):
good as they've been, in as much grit and grind
as this team has, there comes a point of attrition,
do that he just can't keep up with it?

Speaker 3 (31:40):
And then they did.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
Then again, Now another load of pressure falls on a
pitching staff to have to go six innings every single
day and kick ass on a regular basis and keep
you within two or three runs and at least give
you a chance to win the game. Because right now,
for the most part, if somebody scores four or five
or six runs. They're having trouble matching it unless you're
playing in Colorado or Dodger Stadium right now.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
So they are.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
They have had a phenomenal start to the season. I
just don't like that. It's uneasy the injury wise, and
going into the All Star break losing three to a
team lost ten in row, and a possibility of another
guy possibly being shelved. Yeah, I'm trying to think on
the good side of it glass half full, but there
comes a point in time when you can throw your
arms up and say, how much more are we going
to endure when it comes to guys being hurt and

(32:23):
the expectations we have to put on guys that aren't
used to being put on them just yet. The endurance part.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
I'm glad you brought that up, because that is something
we're going to talk about here during the show.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
Mike, see you right there.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
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Speaker 6 (35:11):
Good morning, Mike, Well, good morning Dallas. Boy, he's gotta
love baseball, doesn't you. I mean, you got the high
of sticking it to the Dodgers over the weekend, and
boy to that elevator. Elevator plummet quickly after the last
three games. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (35:29):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (35:30):
Something about the Assos, if I if I had a
knot in my entire asks being the fan of Asso.
It's a better part of five decades. It's since twenty seventeen. Especially,
I've not necessarily heard you guys say this, but I've
heard it from time to time. Is that the Assos
sometimes seemed to play down to the competition.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
What do you think I appreciate the call? I mean,
coming into this series, they were twenty seven and eighteen
this year against teams that were below five hundred. I
think it was that number, but it was right around there.
They had beaten teams that were over five hundred. I
get what you're saying. I mean there is going to
be a leveling off regardless of who the team is.
I mean, you know, you've got, for example, the Dodgers

(36:13):
who continued to lose. They just lost three straight to
the Astros, and then they went and got swept by
the Brewers. So it happened to them, it happened to
the Yankees about a week and a half ago. It
just it comes for everyone. I don't think that it's
necessarily an opponent thing. I mean, I remember a couple
of years ago, you for whatever reason, couldn't beat the Royals.
You only won one up there in Kansas City, and

(36:34):
then you came back here against one of the worst
teams in baseball at the time, and they swept you
in your own building. I just I think it's baseball,
just baseball happening. There's well in one hundred and sixty
two games, he's listen. I think you both are right
on this one, and you can be right on you
can look at it both ways. One is it is

(36:55):
human nature. When you're favored in a football game. It's
human nature when Alabama plays Tennessee Chattanooga to think that
your backups can kick their ass and you're gonna win,
and to go get a little sluggish.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
It's human nature. The key is you got to guard
against it, and you can't let it creep in all
the time when you're playing a sub five hundred team
or a team you're supposed to be because when you do,
that'll end up being the difference. You know what, We
squandered six games along the year because we didn't take
this too serious because we were better than them, and
it keeps you out of the playoffs. So it does matter.
But yes, it is baseball, it is sports. It's human nature.

(37:28):
You're always going to gear up if you're the vikings
for the Packers more than you are just humidated during
the week than you are for a team out of
your division that's one to nine.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
They were twenty seven and nineteen or twenty seven and sixteen.
Excuse me, against teams and you'll take the run of
this year.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
As matter of fact, it's almost just as impressive because
it shows you that you as beating good teams. Why
this team obviously has always been good pressure and risen
to the occasion, gets good teams, and most of your
good teams will elevate because that's called the competition should part.
That's what you've grew, that's in your DNA, you hope
it's the ability. And I think the difference between great

(38:06):
teams and good teams is not the ability to ramp
up against good teams. It's the ability to ramp up
against bad teams. Now you are going to go through
a series, it's like what happened there?

Speaker 8 (38:17):
Man?

Speaker 5 (38:17):
Like you just mentioned Kansas City a couple of years
ago when they couldn't they couldn't win at home and
they were struggling against bad teams, right, whatever focus that is?
So we always talk about how do you play well
against good teams? Well, I don't know. I mean, I
if the talent's equal, we should win a lot of them.
And we're going to lose some too because they're getting
paid too. And it's easy for me to get up
when I was playing as a Charger or against the

(38:38):
Raiders or as a Viking against the Bears on Monday
night football. Hell, who needs a speech for that, but yeah,
is it home, you're favored by three touchdowns, you're going
to kick their ass. Or when I was at SC
and we were getting to play Utah State, and you
knew at halftime if we played normal that you weren't
going to play in the second half, So get it
all in and it happened. You're up forty eight of that.

(38:59):
It happen time you're not playing anymore than you think
about what pizza you're rooting on your buddy and where
you're going after the game. But going into it, those
are going to happen. You're gonna get swept in a
series that you're favored in. You just can't let that
happen two and three times a year because then it
ends up being the difference in whether you go where
you want to go or not. So it's easy in
my mind psychologically to get ready and mentally to get
ready for a game that is a great team. You

(39:20):
don't need a speech, and you probably don't need a
speech against a bad team. It should be understood that
you just got to dig a little bit deeper. And
I know people say, well don't they just they're pros,
so they don't know. It's you don't ever lose that
little league. When you're in the little league and you're favored,
or you're a guy's a twenty seven handicapper and you're
a two handicapped, you give them five strokes. Aside, you
still think you're kicking his ass, right, and you're smiling

(39:43):
and smirking, and if you don't, you're like, that's not
happening twice. So to me, obvious is being jacked up
for the good ones. It's can you stay focused and
sustain when maybe it is not as many fans show up,
maybe they're on vacation, Like it's a little emptier. You
could hear yourself talk, or we're supposed to beat these guys.

(40:04):
We're just better hunters going to the mound frombers pitching.
You've got it to me a lot of the difference
in the good ones and good ones will beat them
most of the time. But even if you don't beat them,
the great ones gearing up for you cannot let your
guard down. It'll happen in a series. Now, if this
was a trend the second half of the season, alarm

(40:24):
for concern, because eventually the good teams are going to
beat you at times as well, and now that's going
to be the difference in whether you get in or
out or win a division. So it is, and it's
human nature. But I hate that part of human nature
because we've all lived. I'm kicking this guy's ass today,
and then when you get yours kick then all of
a sudden, and then what happens is you don't want
the question marks to kick in when you start to say,

(40:47):
what's happened to us? That's human nature as well, just
like when you're going good. When they walk out of
that Dodger series in private, when they're with their wives
or their buddies, you don't think they're saying to themselves,
got a long way to go, but we can win
the whole thing. Of course they are, and I still
think they're obviously saying it. But when you come out
of it doesn't creep in a little bit like what

(41:07):
are we doing the small things that we need to
do against teams that we're supposed to beat. So and
remember there's a lot of pride on teams that lose
ten in a row. You're humiliating, embarrassed, so you're going
to get their best, especially when you're one of the
three best teams in baseball, it's important to make sure
you bridge the gap of bringing the elevation against great
teams and the a little casual versus bad teams closer together,

(41:31):
so when you meet in the middle, at least it's
the consistency of playing decent baseball against them. And if
you play decent baseball against bad teams, most time you're
going to win well.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
And the questions still persist on one front for the Astros,
and those questions got even louder last night. We'll discuss
that here as we get in an hour or two
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Speaker 3 (42:34):
Nest Soak Perettis, though is an all Star, Jeremy Pania,
Hunter Brown, They're still gonna go, just not gonna play
in the game. And the Yankees dfa two time batting champion,
DJ Lemayhew after he was demoted to the bench, and
Sean That begs the question. I mean, he is a
guy that's played a lot of different infield positions DH two.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
I mean, you need some offense in this lineup right now.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
If the opportunity he is there, not as a trade,
I don't think that you're going to go about it
as a trade. But if he clears waivers and he's
free to sign wherever. If you're Dana Brown, do you
not think about it? Yeah, because you'll get him cheap.
He's in.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
You know, he's along in his career. He's always had
great bat control and put the ball as well, witnessed
by the two batting titles. He's been solid and there's
probably still a little love in that bat. I just
don't think he's an everyday player anymore. I mean, but
can give Kenspachi. I think he's a good guy to
have on your roster because he's always been a guy,

(43:34):
at least for most of his career that can hit.
And he's been a pretty versatile player as well, so
you can move you can move him around to more
than one position. I would I don't know. If he's
a you know it's gonna make a difference, but he's
a body. If you're looking for a guy to jump
on in that you're looking for a piece, not the
wow factor. And like you said, if it's you go

(43:56):
get him and sign him to a contract. He's been
mixed through waivers and nobody. Then I don't think you
have to pick up the money that he's been making.
You get to pay him what you want to pay him,
what he's willing to do. And if you're DJ Lemayhew,
you probably think this is a pretty good team to
be a part of. With all these injuries, he may
get a little more run anyway. So is neither catch
all that's going to be a high demand. Probably not.
But he's a kg veteran who is who knows how

(44:20):
to hit. He just going through his struggles. I would
at least visit that if it's a possibility, Dan, because
lem Mayhew's a veteran, and add the vetter. We see
what veterans do when they come here. A lot of
times they fit right in and take care of their business.
I wouldn't. I would have no problem with that.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
He's played second, third and first he can play during
his career. And he also did have a injury this season.
He went through a funny enough strained calf, but then
came back. He's hitting two sixty six with a six
seventy four OPS and forty five games this season. So
the batting is still there. And I mean, as long

(44:57):
as you don't have yord On, I understand the yearning
for a left handed bat in this lineup. I think
you can do a lot worse of plugging in a
guy at DH and freeing Dfad hitting two sixty plus. Yeah,
for a guy who's been backing, who's just kind of
you know, finding is that he's had a he's always
been a really really good hitter. And if you're looking
for a guy to get you a clutch base hit

(45:19):
or come in and pinch hit, or DH around or two,
or maybe play a little first base of christ, you
have that versatility with Lemayhew. Good player for sure, he
just not the same as he was obviously, but I
still think he can add something to a roster.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
If he's on the right roster. He doesn't have to
play every single day.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Well, I mean there's that, and it's also I mean,
you're looking at a lineup right now that I mean,
you don't want to have to play Cooper Hummel.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
It's a little makeshit even I'll give him credit, it's
a little that this is not this is not how
they envision the rest of their season going. Let's put
it that way.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
Taylor Tremmell's giving you some good at bats. Scores the
first run last night, so I mean, it's hard to
argue with what he can do in the field, but
also on the base paths. It's just it's the consistency
a plate that I mean, right now, let's call it
what it is. Right now, you're batting with five guys
at the moment and hoping that the other ones come
through sick. You know what, let me take that back,

(46:10):
because I counted Kennedy Corona in there. Six because Mauricio
Dubon has been really good for you. Yeah, and there's
no surprise there.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
So but you know, there's a few band aids that
they're kind of taping yourself together, right and trying to
get it done. Rub a little dirt on it. But
a lot of credit has to go to the guys
who we didn't expect because they've really been they've been
impressive and it's happened in pitching staff as well. Names
that you didn't expect were going to come through. But
how long on the sustaining part can.

Speaker 6 (46:38):
You do this?

Speaker 5 (46:40):
Le Mayhew is interesting that you brought it up, Like
I said, it's not going to be oh my gosh,
turn the baseball on. It's ere saying, look, we got
dj lem Mayhew. But he is a solid bat. Even
though he's hitting two sixty, he can contribute something because well,
he knows how to hit.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
And the guy is a you've seen him.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
He's very confident, and the versatility gives you a little
latitude if somebody's out or needs a mistake, because he
can go play second base tomorrow, he can go play
third base tomorrow. More likely at this stage of his career,
you're going to put him at first base and at
DH if you need him, and a late any pinch
hit guy that can go deliver a hit when it's necessary.
Those guys are important. I think you at least visit

(47:21):
the Lamayhew stuff if he gets through waivers and you
have an opportunity to at least visit about it.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
So we were talking about Jake Myers in the segment
before last about you know, he goes through the test yesterday,
imaging done. You heard him say there was imaging done.
It does sound like that they crossed their t's and
dotted their eyes before they said all right, hey throw
them out there. But it started to make its rounds
last night on Astros Twitter and the points can't be overlooked.

(47:48):
This is now another injury that clearly you didn't diagnose
it correctly, because part of me, when I saw him
in the lineup yesterday, I was a little surprised.

Speaker 5 (47:57):
I was like, soft tissue.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
You just don't know what's really necessarily the rush when
you're four games away from a break of give him
a little bit more time and then he's ready to
go as soon as the next, you know, the next
part of the season starts. But now, I mean, I've
got to believe that it was significant enough obviously for
him to leave the game again, and if that's the case,
it's going to be serious enough. But then people started

(48:22):
to do a little bit of a looking through all
of the issues that you've had over the last few years,
most recently Jordan Alvarez, where you've got to have a oh,
it's just this always going to start swinging up.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
Now we see a fracture in there.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Kyle Tucker last year, all the pitchers last year that
were supposedly going to make their way back and never did.
For you, I've got to believe Sean after this season.
If I'm Jim Crane, I've got to do an audit
of that part of my team because injuries are going
to happen. I get all of that, but the questions
are still there of the how, what, when, where, and why?
You can answer at least the last part. You want

(48:57):
to get the Hey, why are we not getting these
guys back when we think we're going to get them back?
What's happening in between That we're misdiagnosing it at the beginning,
or that we're mistreating it, either of those things. Some
sort of audit needs to be done after this scene.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
So if I can gather what were just listening when
I interview somebody like Dana Brown weekly and you watch
and hear in the history from last year, just on
the consistency of it. Once again, I'm all for it,
because if I was in there front, I would protect
the player first as well and not cater to you first,
you know what I'm saying. I get it, but we'd
like to know you just don't want misinformation. And I

(49:35):
don't think it's intentional. I just think there's this extra
protective wall that you're almost programmed to say, Well, we're
going to take it day by day, we'll see. Here's
what I do know, in my opinion, in most organizations,
and it feels like the case here, you've got to
protect the player from himself because as we're going to

(49:55):
talk to him when he feels good. When they talked
about when Jake felt good, it's one thing because we're
Most athletes I know are going to say, even if
you're it's like back in the day when they didn't
test for concussions, really can you so how many fingers
I got, how you did put a little smell in
salt right, got just got my bell wrong? How you
feel you'd lie to them and then play your way

(50:16):
through it. Most athletes are going to say, oh, I'm
good to go. Why nobody wants to leave their glove
on the mount so somebody else come out pick it up?
So I think you go imaging and you say it
and then say, okay, we're close. The key is when
you're in ninety percent, most players feel like they're one
hundred percent ready to go, and you have to protect
them from their selves where they're you're not letting them

(50:37):
make the final decision. How do you feel everything's moving?
You put a clock on them and they're you know,
they're run to first base or in football, how quickly
they're coming out of How do the numbers match up
before the injury? You want to do those and you
got all that data available to you, and then you ask, so,
how do you feel comfortable? Because yeah, I'm ready to go,
and if youre going, well, he's about an eighty eight

(50:58):
ninety percent, we're good to go.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
He can't hurt it any where.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
So let's go that that. And it's it's human nature
to put trust in your players even if they're not
one hundred percent but close once the doctor passes them.
Just when a doctor pass he doesn't mean you're a
hundred percent comfortable. So maybe part of it is not
allowing the player once he tells you he's good, saying okay,
that's wait a few more days, or make sure we
get this imaging done and make sure that structurally you're

(51:24):
a you are as close to one hundred percent as
you're gonna get because data made a play. Estay's right,
And I've always says once football or baseball season starts,
nobody's fully healthy though you're either banged up, you're sore,
you're tired, and you just got to fight through it.
Then the injury hits, and then then that's a different story.
So yeah, it's bothersome. And I understand the audit you're
talking about when it comes to the injuries and how

(51:44):
they approach them, but it feels like and it's in
an anordinate amount, and it feels like it's a bit
of groundhog Day when it's that part of our expectation
are we got to start thinking if it's a week,
it's two. If it's a month, it's two. If it's
three weeks, it's six weeks, and then everything's gravy. But

(52:05):
it's the think about this. The biggest issue we have
right now is how things are dealing with injuries. Now
you think about that, seventeen games over five hundred's pretty impressive,
but it's got to get right because I don't think
you can sustain it with constant injuries, and you got
to get it right. You can't let the player make
the final decision on when he goes out on the
field because most want to play.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
See and that's the point. Like where last year with
Kyle Tucker. Oh, when he feels good, we'll run him
back out there. Oh, when Ordon feels good, we'll run
him back out there. Stop with the mixed messaging, like
have a meeting about this before you speak into a microphone.
How about that, Yeah, don't put it on the player,
take it off the player. We're going to do this

(52:47):
the right way. When he's ready to go, we'll determine
if he's ready to go, the medical staff will determine
he's ready to go.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
Then they'll be back out there. There's three tiers to it.
The organization feels comfortable putting him in, the player's comfortable
going in in health, and the doctor says he's cleared
to go. I just let the doctor tells he's a
he's a physician. Let us do he's one hundred percent.
Then you turn it over the team say now we're
working to get his strength back up, or when he
feels comfortable ready to go, and when we feel comfortable

(53:14):
with him. The first thing I need is one hundred
percent recovered. His knee is one hundred percent, his calf
is one hundred percent, his shoulders one hundred percent, his
UCL is one hundred percent. It's strong, ready to go
is velocity? Because okay, so let me ask you this.
If Christian Xavier is pumping it at ninety five, which
is above his normal average velo, what's hold him back

(53:36):
throwing more pitches? Okay, so, so at least we know that, hey,
velo's up and now it's just a matter of build up. Correct, Yeah,
at least we think Raic Gatty too. Yeah, at least
we think so I can help with that. We hope
with Garcia. But we went to the same thing last year. Man,
pitchers take a long time to build up, dude, instead
of the old roll your arm about five times to

(53:56):
go out and start throwing, It's it's the times of
a chain. Did I know the money comes into it,
but man, it seems like they take a long time
to build up. I mean, hey, he's healthy. Now, Oh
we got to go this one, then this stopped, then
this stopped, and this stopped, and this stop and then
triple a. Oh, now he's ready to go from flat
to mound to partial to three pitches, to ten pitches,
to twelve pitches to triple A and then he's ready

(54:17):
to go. I mean, the build up for pitchers is crazy.
Yet we still want them to throw one hundred and
and and when they're sixteen years old and throw as
hard as they can and croll hop on these videos
you see because v Lo is up but he can't
throw a strike because he can't hit a strike. But
that's needless. That's neither here nor there. But yeah, injuries
a point of contention. Every organization will get complaints from
their fan bab I'm just telling you it just feels

(54:37):
in an inordinate amount with this organization or with the
players this year because of in the last couple of
years about how many injuries they've had to overcome.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Where's Tom and Manski when you need them?

Speaker 5 (54:46):
Tom and Manska back to back national champions Isn't that
a Fred McGriff, thank you? Yeah, you got with the
knon hat on. It works. Take pointing at the camera,
take that croll hop and throw it into the little
tube behind home play. Yeah, the trash game vine, No,
it was a pretty It was a perfect hop too.
That's what they tell you throw it low enough where

(55:07):
you get that hop cat stretches a waist high. Yeah,
absolutely so the tom Emanski school of hitting. But listen,
the astros other than are disdained or Danny's disdain for
the handling or how the injury is presented to us.
The number one thing is getting all these guys out there.
I can't listen. It'll be abnormal to see this group

(55:29):
healthy because we haven't seen it in two years, three years.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
I just I think it's nothing else, you know, talking
about you know, team regrouping, players, mental reset, all of that.
If nothing else, just pull Joe aside before the next
and say, hey, look we're gonna have another injury. Don't
do the they feel better today, don't do that.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
How about anymore? How about just handling it if you
want to get how about just saying, listen, we're evaluating it.
We have no idea when he's got where it's at,
that's at We are always going to air on the
side of safety and caution. So when we know that
he's close to when we have a time frame, we'll
give it to you. Until then, he's not playing and
there's nothing you guys can do. But I mean, your

(56:10):
guys questions aren't speeding.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Up his injury.

Speaker 5 (56:12):
Sure, but we want to know. But the truth that
you just say, listen, you guys ask all the time.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (56:17):
We thought he was ready to go. In Jordan's case,
he had a set back. The images say this, he's
eighty percent or ninety percent healthy now that it's just
a matter of pain tolerance and us making sure we
don't run him out there too soon.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
And everybody's good to go and it's strong and we're
ready to go so it doesn't get hurt worse. I
just think unrealistic expectations are set and you do this
to yourself for which I don't really understand doing that.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
But we can discuss this. I know Dan and those
guys don't want to be in the doctor business. They don't,
of course they don't. They want to be in the
baseball business, and they should be. And that's why I
think a lot of this needs to be taken off
their plate. Jason ce right there, get you involved, But
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Speaker 3 (59:54):
It is Sean Salisbury Show here Sports Talk seven ninety.
Astros gets swept last night by the Guardians four to two.
They're off today before the Rangers get to town. He's
sacked Parretis though. Good news with him. He is an
All Star, so that means the Astros have four. That's
awesome for him. He's played good enough to be an
All Star.

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
How many times did Norman Dale want his guys to
pass the ball before you took a shot? Was it four?

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
Four?

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Yep?

Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
You gotta be a four? Then you got to set
up the pick at fence, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, four corners,
all of those things. Everything in fours right there. But
Jeremy Paine, you a numerologist guy at times like remember
I told you about you know, LSU winning their eighth
national title, and then there was like a bunch of
other number eights that day, and all was like, huh,
what's the number you see that you feel that you're like, okay,

(01:00:42):
that's good man. It's just like a good Is there
a number that you see that you say, okay, that's
my lucky number that all of a sudden set you
if you're a numerology guy.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
I guess it's number eight? Is it?

Speaker 9 (01:00:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Very nice?

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
I mean I always I always was partial to number eleven.
But if you were going to play, like what Jersey
would you choose if you were starting for spaceman for.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
The Astros with number well, I mean, Jose's got it,
but I would take twenty seven. I feel like it's
just a good you know, Trout wears twenty seven too,
that wears twenty seven. Lance Berkman when he played at Rice,
he wore twenty seven. Maybe that's why it was. I've
always been a number.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
Twelve was my number until he went to USC and
they had that retired because Charles White and then it
never had so I switched to seven then, But twelve
was my favorite number. But I always said, if I
played baseball, there's twelve still. Twelve baseball number just kind
of to me. Yeah, it's a great quarterback number. Sure, yeah, yeah,
it's a great quarterback number. And it was I felt

(01:01:36):
pretty good basketball number. But I don't know the twelve
just as much. I love the number just on a
baseball jersey.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
It just doesn't feel right to me, especially a six
five and forty big duney type's got to be part
of it too. Yeah, I if I can see you
like a forty five, No, I'm single digit guy with
baseball number three. Oh that's the number. I look get you,
mister segue, because that's where we're going.

Speaker 5 (01:02:01):
I would choose number the number three if I have said, Sean,
you're just gonna go play baseball, you know, right fielder
wearing number three. Yeah, some pretty good players over the
course of time. It just kind of feels like number
one on me would make me look like I'm seven
foot but number one on like defensive linemen. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah,
it is, especially guy's ways like two seventy five, right,

(01:02:22):
or as a rush into two sixty five. But for me,
it was like twelve is always the number, but I
like the number three numerology wise because three times fours twelve.
But the number three for me, I think like would
would have been my bab what I would have chosen
for baseball if it wasn't twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
And Babe Ruth wore number three. And apparently Livy Dunn
and Paul Skenes tried to buy his apartment in New
York saw that, and everything was looking good, I mean
to the point where she was starting to go out
with an interior designer by furniture because I love where.
She says, this shows you how young they are. I'm
not going to use my college furniture in this apartment, right,

(01:02:59):
So she's got a little bit of scratch now saying,
you know what, Babe ruth apartment, Though, how about the
history of that? I was gonna say, I mean, I
wonder if the piano is still there, you know, the
famous one that he pushed into a lake up there
in New England. But everything was looking good until the
co op denied her. People in the building voted and
they did not want me to live there, which is fine.
It wasn't financial. They could have all been Alabama fans

(01:03:21):
and I went to LSU.

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
Let me done. Joe too. Some people, though Dan, do
not like certain golf courses, certain buildings like that. Yeah,
don't like celebrities in their building.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
I would take it the opposite way, honestly, I would
take it as they want privacy in their home.

Speaker 5 (01:03:44):
They don't want people around. They don't get those Those
two may want privacy, there's no doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
And the other thing is too is as a buddy
of mine has been in the building management business for
a high rise company that in Atlanta. Obviously you have
a lot of reality shows, stars, all of those things.
They have a policy there. And this is all out
through out La too. At hotels, no filming, no, no photography,
anything like that while while you're on while you're on property.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
I would assume that this one would have it too. Well,
it's on it's sacred, is it kind of like John
Wick When you go to that building, there's no business
can be conducted inside the way you can't conduct business
inside the Continental and maybe that at the co op,
but those co ops are strict and you think you
don't like hoas those co ops could. And guess what

(01:04:29):
if they decide they don't watch you in because your
celebrity or whatever reason, or maybe they wanted it. They're
too young. I don't know what the average agent possibly,
Oh it's going to be a party there. But those
they probably they get enough people followed them around. They
probably want piece of quiet and move into Babe Bruce
crib and I'd feel like I was Babe Ruth, right,
it would be pretty cool. Paul Skings actually actually have

(01:04:51):
like a you know, an interaction with the ghost of
Babe Ruth, just like Benny the Jet Rodriguez did. There
you go and remember kid, ye heroes are remembered. That's
exactly right. So it'd be like, man, all these years
and this is still Baby Bruce crew. I'm still fascinated.
It plays up that they haven't built, knocked the building
down and done something else after all these years. But

(01:05:11):
those co ops, man, but a lot of them. I'll
leave golf course out, but I know there's golf course
in Los Angeles. It's big money and has everything. Start
their preferences if you're a celebrity in bringing that celebrity
status to them, they don't need your money. Plenty of
those good they don't. They got plenty of that. Then
the waiting list for the billionaires and millionaires that are on,

(01:05:33):
they don't need that. It's there. There's some that are
quite the opposite. You come here, quiet, cell phone, stay
in your bad We don't we don't play that and
we don't need it. And I'm sure part of that,
I'm sure it's not they don't like schemes or livy done,
but maybe youth. Maybe the fact that there's oh and
it's gonna it's gonna make the building a little louder
because they're gonna have more fun than oh yeah, whatever

(01:05:54):
that is. And I get it, but it's a bummer. Yeah.
I mean, you just got to understand in some of
those people are just that celebrity works for you a
lot of times, but in some cases it works against
you because I'm sure there's a lot of people that
want to live in that building, and I'm sure it
wasn't cheap.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
Well for Paul Skins too. I mean, you know, if
he's got that Hank Aaron card and then you know
you have Babe Ruth. I don't know why son, but
can I have this there you go.

Speaker 5 (01:06:17):
Yeah, just a hunch, so they'll find another building or
a call op that people will welcome. But just when
you walk into the wrong one, it's like, nope, we
don't need that celebrity stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
Some people also just want to be in position to
say no.

Speaker 10 (01:06:29):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (01:06:29):
Of course they do it because it's a power move. Yeah,
it's a power to say no, see we didn't. We
can turn them away, which a lot and the Livy
Done and Paul Skin seem like they just be kind
of easy going and that they probably get tired of
everybody chasing around that they go there.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
To dial it down a little bit. Him more than her, Yeah,
I mean, you know, obviously, I mean it is her brand.
It is I mean, her appearance is what makes sense.
She's energetic and do all that. Yeah, and he's but
together seems like a pretty good partnership and couple. But
a lot of those guys are and they're only going
to get more publicity because he's really good and talented,

(01:07:03):
and you know how celebrity couples.

Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
People want to follow him around. Who are bearing the
lead here?

Speaker 11 (01:07:06):
Though?

Speaker 5 (01:07:06):
I mean, why are you moving to New York? Yeah,
that's a great point is that there is it because
she's got a lot of work going on and she's
from Jersey, right, so maybe maybe it's or maybe it's
just the fact that, hey, we're both in the New
York people want to have a crib in New York
City or what have you. Maybe you can change some
of the leadership there while you're at it. Trade's going

(01:07:27):
to be good, you ask. It's not like you say, well,
we're getting our off season home in Scottsdale because it's warmer.
You're on the beaches in Florida. All right, it's New York.
I maybe maybe a Livy just unintentionally, And who's maybe
Livy or is it? Is it Livy or is it
Paul that said let's get a crib in New York

(01:07:47):
just because we both love the city. Maybe it could
be it is It is a beautiful place for the
most part, the place itself, all right? Jason, see here
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Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
Jason wants to weigh in. Jason, appreciate your patience. Good morning,
what is happening? Tell us how you're doing this? Morn
good Man, Huh, where do I start?

Speaker 5 (01:08:22):
I mean, Dana Brown's a smart guy.

Speaker 13 (01:08:27):
And I know that because growing up I was a
Braids fan, and I know that he's a He was
a scout for them, so he knows a whole lot
about talent. And when it comes to this whole medical thing.
I'm not a doctor, nor do I play one on
TV or the phone, but you know, I do know

(01:08:48):
that last year Jordan had a similar hand injury, and
it's it's gotten me one.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
That wasn't me. Yeah, Jason, you just dropped. I guess
our phone system acting up again. But I think I
know where he's going with this. Again.

Speaker 5 (01:09:07):
This is not on Dana Brown.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
I mean, you know, as I was mentioning, you know,
seeing this last night, people talking about it on Astros
Twitter and somebody said, oh, how Dana Brown. I'm like,
he doesn't have autonomy to make those decisions. That's not
a Dana Brown decision. Those are things that are above
his pay grade. He's just the foot soldier who's having
to deliver the message is what he is.

Speaker 5 (01:09:28):
If you want to get on and find out who
the person is that's making the gentleman deliver the message,
I think that's that that maybe that's part and parcel
to what all teams don't. I don't know if Billy
Bean talks about injuries on it. Maybe he does. Maybe
it's Billy or maybe it's somebody is I don't know,
or the manager. But you're your one hundred percent correct.

(01:09:48):
You can disagree with Dana's decision on who he trades
for or love who he trades for. That's fine. I
don't know why Jordan's injuries Dana Brown's fault. And when
he comes back, Dana Brown did not waltz down into
the clubhouse and say, you play yourd on today whether
he's one hundred percent healthy or not. And that's the
way it's going to be. That's he just happens to

(01:10:10):
be the mouthpiece. That'd be like being mad at the
White House Press secretary because she's saying exactly because of
a decision the president made, she's just there to represent
him and they go through their notes all day and
she's a spicy one. But you get my point. Sure
we may get mad at the way it's presented, or
evading questions or the somebody being ill prepared, but she

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ain't making the decisions. She's reporting them. Dana Brown and
the group, I'm sure they confer about it. He just
happens to be the guy to say it. It's not
Dana Brown's fault that we don't like the injury report.
It's also I mean, I use the general man.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
There's nothing to do.

Speaker 5 (01:10:48):
Whether he comes on here or not, because if it
was is if if we didn't like it. We've stated
those things which I did about the the Renelle Blanco
thing and day and I've talked about no big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
But my point is is that you just can't. I
don't know why that.

Speaker 5 (01:11:03):
That's like going to uh McDonald's in order and pasta
and a glass of wine. Right, I just saw somebody
had talked to me going there. You may want the food,
but you're ordering in the wrong place. You may not
like what's going on with that, but you're you're you're
directing your energy.

Speaker 6 (01:11:21):
That's wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
Well, he's lying to us. I don't think Dana Brown's
up there to intentionally tell you that you aren't going
to be back tomorrow and lie.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
To you and then it's going to be ninety days.
Well it's it's getting mad up. Prom me again. I mean,
you know, misdirected man. You know, restaurants have managers, general managers,
you know all of those different things. Your steak's not cooked, right? Oh,
I didn't like that, you know the waiter? Yeah, let
me let me, let me talk to the manager. It's like, okay,
they can they can address the issue. They can't fix
the issue.

Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
Well, the only way that can fix it is to
take it back and you want a new one, we'll
do that, or to comp Listen, I've had buddies that,
and I know one really that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
And he did.

Speaker 5 (01:11:58):
He'll go to a restaurant and has and if it's
one little spec off where he's looking for to eat
three quarters of it, complain about it and then get
it for free and look at me. It's just it's
it's quite frankly, it's pathetic. And and I don't know
if he knows it, but he should. But with that
in mind, it's like so sometimes like yeah, here here
comes the complaint for the freeness, right right, you guy

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like that complain yeah, exactly, and it's not. It doesn't
just happen once, so we may all know that guy's like,
come on, you sure you didn't have a problem with
it halfway through it? Oh yeah, I don't like this,
and then you want the manager to come out and
make a See, it's all constant. So and this is
the same case you it's it's it's misdirected. I know

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there's certain things he's got to say and do to
protect the player, But I also wonder why we think
we deserve to know every single thing that goes on
with the injured player before they actually know. I mean,
why do we think that we deserve to know? Well,
do we deserve No, every single thing they've done to Yordon,
absolutely not. But the fact that the misdiagnosed mean the

(01:13:03):
timing of it bothers us because it keeps missing on
the Kyle Tucker timing the ord on time. Maybe they
don't go into it serious enough. They try to make
a think, but we got a temporars. You know that
when it comes to injuries, always think worse than better,
and if better happens, it's a blessing, not the other
way around. But Dana Brown delivering the information. Dana Brown
is not the doctor Dana Brown probably unless he's told

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like most of us doesn't really understand going through what's
that on the images. He's not at the doctor's office
looking at images. He's taking expertise from somebody else. If
he was that, then we'd call him doctor Brown. Well, okay,
that's not his name.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
Maybe like an end of season gifts, we get him,
we get him a doctor's coach.

Speaker 5 (01:13:43):
Oh yeah, he doesn't. But trust me, after all this,
he won't want to wear one with all that, But
so we just have it. It's like we're looking for
somebody to blame. If his threshold of pain's not very good,
look at Jordon Alvarez, if the doctors are misdiagnosing it,
looking at them. But he's the messenger that. But what's
he gonna do. He's gotta work with those guys every day.
Is it here to make me and you happy? Or

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is he here to make sure he protects his team.
His obligation is to his team, as it should be.
But it's still frustrating to us because we don't get
all the insight we want.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Hey, that's weird. Usually Dana wear suits. Why is he
wearing scrubs and a stethoscope.

Speaker 5 (01:14:16):
Well, at this pace, if people keep getting hurt, he
may have to start performing surgery too.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
So there you go.

Speaker 10 (01:14:22):
So we we do.

Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
We misdirect some of the stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
The astro is turning into our frustration right right now,
right now, Sure seems that way at times. Logan's here
right there. We'll get you involved in the conversation if
you want to join up two seven one three two
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Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Let the celebration start more. Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
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Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
This guy's becoming a regular. Logan wants to weigh in.
Good morning, Logan, Good morning guys. I'm looking forward to
Hina Brown some day. It's gone see what he can
come to.

Speaker 9 (01:14:58):
Come back. Listen.

Speaker 14 (01:15:00):
This is not my point, but I just want to
follow up quick on what y'all were just talking about
that last segment.

Speaker 9 (01:15:05):
You're right about Dana Brown.

Speaker 14 (01:15:07):
Okay, he's not in the medical profession, but I want
somebody please to tell me what happened to Jake Myers
last night and his calf it's his calf is quiet,
or whatever it is, that what happened between him walking
out of the dugout and going to center field. Did
something happen to him because he was in the lineup,

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he was ready to go, and somebody please got to
explain to me.

Speaker 9 (01:15:32):
I don't care whether it's Jane Brown or if it's the.

Speaker 14 (01:15:34):
Therapist or what it is, somebody's got to tell me
and you what happened to Jake Myers calf or whatever
it is between the time he walked out of the
dugout in the center field.

Speaker 5 (01:15:46):
Hey, logan, let me ask a question. Let me ask you,
and we love having you on, but let me just
let me be a point counterpoint here. Does somebody really
have to tell you and me today or last night?
It just happened last night. They did say it, obviously,
and we played the sound. He went out there and
worked for about twenty five minutes on a dynamic routine
to get himself ready.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Felt good.

Speaker 5 (01:16:05):
They put him out there, and somehow, some way between
the walk from the dugout or from his warm up
to his position, it got it's it tightened up on him.
And they don't have the answer for what the diagnosis
is it happened last night and it's it's seven fifty
four the next morning, So what in the world. The
only thing they could do now is misdiagnose it and
mislead you by saying, yep, it's a torn calf. Now

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if they know it's a torn calf in a matter
of minutes, I suggest you'll probably hear that before the
All Star breaker when they know. But why do they
owe you or me an explanation the same night it happens.

Speaker 9 (01:16:41):
Have you Have you ever seen that before? Have you
ever seen that happen.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
I've seen it. I've seen it happen.

Speaker 5 (01:16:46):
You're talking about a guy getting going through warm ups
and everything's fine, then jah, Yeah, matter of fact, I
saw it a football season or two a go. Or
who was it last year or the year before? Guy
running out on the field. Was it the National title game?
Who's a linebacker running out on the field hurt himself
and couldn't play? You did? I'll go if it was
either a playoff linebacker or it was either last year

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or the year before from the sidelines going out there
hurt himself.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
Starter, So, yes, it's happened.

Speaker 5 (01:17:15):
It's rare. You think, how does a guy hurt himself front? Hell,
I blew out my knee in a non contact injury.
Now it was in the game, but nobody was five
feet near me, So they do happen. It's a calf
You never know. Achilles happens the guys all of a sudden,
you know, out there at the gym, playing in the offseason,
and ban blow it out. It was greenlaw. There you
go in a playoff game, right, yeah, the playoff game.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
And he had to miss, right.

Speaker 5 (01:17:40):
So it was two years ago. I think it was
a super Bowl. So it does happen. It's rare, But Logan,
we got a temper it a little bit. No offense
to you and me because I'm with you. They don't
know you anything from last night, and they don't owe
me anything now today. If they know it's blown out,
don't tell us it's not blown out or it's an achilles.
If it's an achilles, yes, be honest that way. But
between last night and today, look what cut in for.

(01:18:02):
I mean, no injury. No team in the history of
mankind will tell you from the night before, unless it's
no brain of the guy he tore his acl. We
already know that, but when these issues come, they don't
know the answer just yet. If they do, we'd love it.
And if they do, then it's a problem. But you're
never going to get a diagnosis the night of an
injury by seven o'clock the next morning, unless it's we

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know the guys in the hospital and he's already having
surgery on Wednesday or Thursday or Friday. So yeah, I
think we also got to temper our feelings of what
they think, what we think they owe us on the urgent.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
They don't know yet.

Speaker 14 (01:18:37):
Okay, point made, point taking, but it is a non
contact injury innership. But listen, let me go with my
point real quick. Listen, I think it looks like the
Astros to me, and what are you saying about this?
It looks like some nights, and last night Cam was
Cam was a prime example. Some nights it looks like
the Astros get extremely tentative in the.

Speaker 9 (01:18:59):
Box and you were talking about you know, these teams.

Speaker 14 (01:19:02):
It all happens. It's psychological. The Dodgers have been getting
blown out of that. It happens. It's baseball. It's a sport,
any sport. Okay, Uh, the number one player the top
seed in tennis, can get beat, can get bageled in
two sets, and then then come back and uh, and yeah,
it's sports, we all understand it.

Speaker 9 (01:19:20):
But here's the thing it looks like. And then and
then Cam's got two stracks on him.

Speaker 14 (01:19:24):
So then he goes through a fifty eight foot dirt
ball because he looked at two beautiful pitches and he's
got his bad on his shoulder and this I'm using
him and has them because he Jesus stick some my mind.

Speaker 9 (01:19:34):
But it looks like some nights the astros.

Speaker 14 (01:19:37):
Get extremely tentative, and you don't want to get the
reputation as a free swinger.

Speaker 9 (01:19:41):
I understand that, but you don't also want to get
to hey I can so and then he comes down and.

Speaker 14 (01:19:48):
A beautiful fastball right down the middle, center cut fastball.

Speaker 9 (01:19:51):
It could have gone four hundred feet, and he said.

Speaker 14 (01:19:54):
It just doesn't it look like they're getting extremely tentative
some nights where they just they just.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
And we get we got to move man, appreciate it.
I mean I have said that before that, I mean
I've seen that there are some at bats where pitch
selection is a little bit questionable. And also too, I
mean you'd like to see the guys be a little
bit more aggressive or even two. I mean, in the
case what I think it is. Last night, Slayzeconi was
just really good. So I think that that kind of
feeds into it. And you also have a lineup that again,

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you're batting six guys right now. I don't count on
Zach Short, I don't count on Taylor Tremmeel, I don't
count on Cooper Hummel. Anything that comes from those guys,
it's absolutely a bonus. All right, we'll continue the astros
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Speaker 6 (01:23:25):
Here.

Speaker 5 (01:23:25):
You hear what I just did right.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
There exactly in Oral Herscheiser's line that he had on
Friday night. But that exact topic was brought up yesterday
with Max Munsey. He was on Foul Territory TV with
Aj Prazinski and with Eric Kratz and Scott Braun. That
crew over there, they do a great job. Usually it's
my post show viewing whenever I go home to nod

(01:23:48):
Off for a little bit after the show. They do
a good job. So they had Max Munsey on and
they brought that exact topic up yesterday with Munsey, who
himself is on the IL. And here's what he had
to say about, Hey, that old wood. Were the astros cheating?

Speaker 5 (01:24:03):
Do I think they know what was coming?

Speaker 11 (01:24:06):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (01:24:06):
I do.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
Do I think they were cheating to get there? No?

Speaker 8 (01:24:09):
I think they had a tip on the pitcher and
that's on us to clean that up. That's not cheating,
That's part of the game. Good teams are gonna do that.
It's one of those things where you just have to
always be careful about what you're what you're doing out there.
You don't want to give anything away to the other team.
And you know, that's something that we take advantage of
a lot of times, and you know, you just you
have to find a way to clean that up. And
that's not cheating. That's that's part of the game. That's uh,

(01:24:30):
that's being a smart baseball player, is what that is,
all right. I think a couple of things here. Number one,
I mean, I think it kind of shows you from
the player's side. With the Dodgers, it's over and done with,
Like we're we're not talking about seventeen anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:24:42):
We got our own things. But the other thing is
too is.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
I appreciate him, you know, not feeding into probably what
fans would want him to say. He's doing what oral
Hirsheiser should have done and he knows better. And I
mean I appreciate Muncie kind of stepping out right there
and say in that I'm saying, now, hey, look we
got to stop doing this. Guys they they they saw
what was coming because our guy was showing it to him.

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That's not cheating, that's playing the game, and you're trying
to win.

Speaker 5 (01:25:11):
The ball game. It's competition with Dodgers. Pr going to
go to Max Munsey and say you got to protect
our broadcaster better than that and kiss his ass. No,
Max Mounts, he gave his honest opinion in the way
most players feel.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
It's not true.

Speaker 5 (01:25:21):
And I always laugh at this, like, oh, there are
some out there the hole ear that. Well, you're not
supposed to if they're tipping pitches. What are you supposed
to call time out in the batter's box and look
over the Dodgers dug out say.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
Hey, your guys. Your guys elbows out. He's got to
throw a curveball.

Speaker 9 (01:25:36):
You know that.

Speaker 5 (01:25:36):
I can see the way when he when he grips
it different he puts two hands in the glove. Otherwise
the ball's in his hand when he's throwing a fastball
or a four seamer or two seamer. Yeah, Max Months,
He's one hundred percent right. You're trying to get every
advantage you can legally if you tip pitches, and I
know you throw fastballs because your grip or the way
you put it in your glove. I guess what I'm
going to do. I'm going to feast on it. And
that's in Max months. He's one hundred percent right. Everybody

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does it. Everybody wants an advantage. It's not cheating. It's
called gamesmanship and trying to do it. If I can
steal your signals as a football guy, and I know
what your defensive signals are, I'm gonna use it to
my advantage, meaning with the naked eye, which we all
tried to do. Hey, they're gonna play cover two. If
I got a Cover two beater and I know it's
cover two, what an advantage?

Speaker 10 (01:26:16):
I have?

Speaker 5 (01:26:16):
Same thing here if I know it's fastball, tremendous advantage.
And if they're tipping pitches and then they're pitching staff,
better work more on it. Max Munsey gave the answer.
Everybody should give it this point. It's called the truth
and it's a novel concept. To be transparent. My answers,
your answers. I'll speak for myself. My answers are not
here to appease the masses. My answers are here. If

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I sit here and I'm talking to make this person happier,
that person happy, or some fan happy, then I'm not
giving you honest breakdown.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
I'm just not.

Speaker 11 (01:26:45):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:26:46):
If I'm making things personal, then that's different, which I
will never do. But in Max Munsey's case, in your case,
in my case, if I'm giving you honestly, you don't
have to like it. But if you think, if you think, well, Sean,
we need you to say that, it's never gonna happen.
I'm not here to a piece, just like Max. Max
Munsey's a player. Max Munsey's not worried about what Mimookie
Betts thinks about it. He's not worried about what his

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picture or what orl Hehrscheizer thinks. He told the truth,
which we all feel. If I got pitches and you're
tiping to your pitches, I'm gonna rake on your ass,
so you go fix it. It's not my job and
it's sure to sales, not my job to cater my
comments to appease some team, some player, some fan, because
that if that's the case, then put a robot on
here and I am say everything that kisses ass. I'm

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not here to do that, and neither should Max Munsey.
He said exactly what should have been said, and he
said exactly what's right and oral. Hirsheiser probably was, well,
what am I going to say? Let me try this
as if it's clever. There's nothing clever about it. Hirsheiser
knows better. Max Munsey just told the truth. What a
novel concept?

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
Well, it also to it kind of reminds me of
that part in the movie Rounders when Teddy KGB goes
to the Oreos and that's when Matt Damon realizes it'
says tell and he tells them, and it cracked me up.
I watched a thing of a poker player watching that
scene and he goes, you don't ever tell the guy
that you know his tell or lady, you don't tell.

Speaker 5 (01:28:03):
Because they'll change it. It's your advantage there you go.
That's the Dodgers figure out they were tipping pitches, then
you go fix it, right. I'm never in the postgame
press conference. You come to me and I got four hits,
two of them home runs against the Dodgers, and I'm raking,
and all of a sudden they say, well, did you
know what was coming? Had no idea? Was just in
you know, seeing the ball well tonight, even if you
knew what was coming, because the next time you see him,

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you want that same pitcher to give you the same
stuff that he didn't fix it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
That's their job. Now my job is to beat you
down any way I can is on the field and
find out every weakness you have so I can make
it my strength. Another reminder is remember a few years
ago David West he had a lower back issue when
he played for the New Orleans Pelicans and they were
playing against the Spurs and Robert Rory knew that. Robert

(01:28:52):
Rory backchecked him, and people are like, that's a dirty play,
and they were like, no, he's on the.

Speaker 5 (01:28:56):
Floor as he played. Yeah, if I'm a quarterback and
you know I have a uh a sore lower back, yes,
and it's clear as as long as it's not a
clean shot, not.

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
A cheap shot.

Speaker 5 (01:29:07):
Well, now, je running and we'll give you a three
game suspension. And you all of a sudden dropped back
to pass and I'm an edge rusher, and I go,
and I know that you've been having back spasms in
the middle of your back, which is a clean place
to hit with my shoulder pad. I'd rather play the
backup quarterback, So you damn right, I'm going to hit
it if I got a chance. Now, I'm not going
to dive at your knee if you have a knee
injury with a helmet. If I can hit something else,

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I don't believe in hurting somebody. But if you have
a if you have a sore ankle, and I can
tackle you low legally make you sweat up a little bit,
why wouldn't I. Well, that was the time I say,
if you're you're on the field, what am I supposed
to do? Oh, I'll only go eighty percent because I
don't want your big toe to get hurt. I'm not
going to go up in a stamp on it on
purpose and step on it. But yeah, you're playing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
All's fair as long as it's not a cheap shot.
Dated reference warning. Fair warning for everybody out there. But
Tom Osborne at Nebraska. That was the first hit of
the game on Charlie Ward. When they played against Florida State,
they wanted to get a fifteen yard penalty because they
wanted to set the tone of that's how this game's
going to be.

Speaker 5 (01:30:06):
The Oakland Raiders back in the day did that every week.
They did two things in the first quarter of most games.
Is they threw the ball deep immediately. Why cliff branch deep?
Why because it gets the You wait till the fourth
quarter to throw it deep, they've already started to squeeze you.
You come right out, you get man coverage. You take
a shot down the field immediately, even if it's not complete.

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What does that do to a man corner? Backs them
off three or four yards and now gives you spacing underneath.
Even if it's not complete, the message still sent, and
the Raiders would always take a personal foul penalty early
guys crossing your face farm shiver back in the day,
which you you could got crossed your face at an
eight yard shallow cross, you could unload on him, and
they were calling a penalty. The Raiders would or they'd

(01:30:49):
hit the quarterback a little late to send the message
early on. If you think you're coming to a softball
contest or a pillow fight, wrong idea, We're gonna hit you,
and it's worth the fifteen yard not a cheap shot.
But when you say I guess I get late. Hit
is a cheap shot. But if you're in between, the
Raiders would take the hit and make sure they delivered
it and their secondary as we well know from Tatum
and Atkinson. They were going to hit you, and at

(01:31:12):
times they were cheap. But to get a personal foul
early or alignment offensive lineman guest saw a guy standing
around you, come over there and thump him around the pile. Oh,
that's a personal foul. But the message was sent that guys,
if you came here for a finesse game, wrong idea.
And a lot of good old school teams did that,
and we're willing to take it. Matter of fact, it

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was encouraged in certain teams because you wanted to make
intimidation part of your game. That when you walk down
the tunnel, it was like, oh, hell, here we go,
and it's the same thing in this hell. I don't
have a problem if you're a throw one hundred miles
an hour. If I was a closer or a starter
that I threw a hundred, my first pitch on some
of these guys would be four feet over the catcher's head. Well,

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Bob Bucker style, right, yes, a bit out?

Speaker 3 (01:31:57):
Why was it?

Speaker 10 (01:31:59):
Was it?

Speaker 5 (01:31:59):
Randy Jobs Cruk at the All Star thought you miss
It's like, oh, Harry Walker, But Cruck also didn't Cruck
against that bad against you? Yeah, that and Larry Walker
put his helmet backwards something, knowing that this is like
one hundred and two, one hundred and three, and I
don't know what's happening here. And Randy Johnson had great
control of the baseball, right, So I have no problem
sending messages, not head hunting, but sending messages to where

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you make the guy think. Isn't that part of everything
to win? Not giving your tell away as a poker player,
or not telling them you know what their tell is.
Why wouldn't you. We'll protect that with everything, every advantage
you need. It's hard to win.

Speaker 4 (01:32:35):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
Good on Max Mounsey though, and it actually makes me
a fan of the guy now that it's like, I no, look,
that wasn't on them. He said, we do it all
the time.

Speaker 5 (01:32:44):
Yeah, of course that's the way now, Rolhurscheizer, guess what
you and maximunts they are on the same page, and
neither one of you own apology to either one.

Speaker 3 (01:32:51):
It's your opinion. I don't have to like one of
them and I like the other because the other one
was true Orl's was chasing a ghost. Oh in this case,
I mean, like I said, not all opinions, you know,
just because it's an opinion makes it right. Well, in
this case, one was right, one was wrong, and you
know that's my opinion. Take it the way you want
it to. All right, This spot now is proving to

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be the hit spots when it comes to sports, and
it was proved again yesterday.

Speaker 5 (01:33:16):
We'll talk about it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
It is the Sean Salisbury Show on a Thursday Sports
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Speaker 5 (01:33:21):
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LA to New York, Parker up and kiss our ass astros.
Oh bye good This is Sports Talk seven ninety Home
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Sewn Salisbury Show continues right now. Seawan.

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
The final four gonna go to Las Vegas in twenty
twenty eight. And earlier this year we found out that,
I mean, we can consider WrestleMania to be part of
major sporting events now, or in wrestling as they call it,
sports and entertainment. But they were going next year to
New Orleans, but then they reverse course and decided they're
going to Vegas. It seems like every single major event

(01:35:41):
that can be moved around. I've got to believe now
that Vegas is going to become the new New Orleans
slash San Diego for everybody. A great You've got space.

Speaker 5 (01:35:53):
To expand, more hotels, more space, whatever you want to do,
They've got plenty of it.

Speaker 6 (01:35:59):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
It's golf weather. It's all year round. You know, you
may get some cold and stuff like you do. January
can be cold, December can be cold at times. It's
the high desert and it gets a little chilly. But
you've got entertainment. You've got.

Speaker 5 (01:36:16):
All the bandwidth of of space and well every convention
in the world somehow rolls through Vegas. You've got it
all I agree with it now. The only thing missing
and that'll happen so sometime where there's an NBA team
there as well, Summer league's there. You got all, I
mean everything, You're going to take college hoops there. There's
there is absolutely zero doubt that should be. That's got

(01:36:40):
to be in the every four or five years. In
my opinion, it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:43):
Sounds like Vegas is also first in line for the
next NBA team. Like I know people have thrown out
Seattle as a possibility, but I think that probably the
NBA is saying, oh, we got to get to Vegas. Yeah,
what's not to like? Awesome?

Speaker 5 (01:36:57):
That's one where you go get an air and Airbnb
for a week and just stay there and relax. Airbnb
so much too.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
Oh yeah, I want that elevator down and I want
to hear the slot machines going, oh yeah, if you're
all of that.

Speaker 5 (01:37:09):
Well, remember I travel with dogs. Ill not sure for
me Airbnb. I travel with dogs because well, I don't
leave my dogs for ten days or two weeks behind.
I just I guess my thing is, I don't just
trust anybody to take care of Now, if it was
a family member that could come in town and stay
at my house. But I'm not sending my dogs to
somebody else's three all their routine. I know, well, Sean,
that's too much. It gets in your way of treating

(01:37:30):
my kids. I'm okay with it, though, I'll drive across
country stay for a week. So yeah, the excitement of
staying in a great hotel like Caesars and bamuh, I'll
just go down. I want to hear ting ding ding
ding ding, and three o'clock in the morning, roll up,
wake up the next morning, go to breakfast. One hundred percent.
But if I wasn't taking dogs. But if I am,
I just get an airbnb or one day you just
buy a place there. I don't just do what people do, though.

(01:37:51):
Oh it's my service dog, it's my emotional It's hard
to have one hundred pound bully one that's like a
hunt and slash guard dog, slash sniff and drug dogs.
It's all the same dog that's out in front, and
then the small one, the small one. I could do that,
but one hundred pounds bully and trying to convince them
that all three are are you know those type of dogs.

(01:38:15):
You know, it's it's hard to do. I guess you
could emotional, you know, support dog. That's fine, but I wouldn't.
I wouldn't be overly honest with all three of them.
I could my middle one, my opeee, she could be
one because she leads the everywhere, She's all over the past.

Speaker 3 (01:38:30):
But yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 5 (01:38:31):
I'd rather stay in a sweet hotel and fat cat.
But with my dogs, I travel them, So I would
I did. The drive would be on because unless, of
course I have my own private plane, which I won't buy.
The I doubt, by the by by February or mark John,
your dogs can stay at my hotel.

Speaker 3 (01:38:49):
Wait, we are very dog friendly.

Speaker 9 (01:38:51):
We allow for them the.

Speaker 5 (01:38:52):
Matter if I give you somebody to walk the dogs too,
very well, very well. So not a lot of grass
outside the you know when you walk out to the
front of the thing. But it would my dogs. Would
my dogs walking through the lobby, They'd friggin love it.
They'd be buddies with everybody. Be sitting at the blackjack
table themsel you know, the poker table, that old school
picture cut all the dogs sitting there. You know everybody

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uses that. That'd be my dogs. But yeah, but whether
it's an airb see an Airbnb. Also you can friends,
you can turn into a party at home. You never
have to leave, right other than to go gamble at
the casino. So hotel first, yes, but with my dogs,
that'd say it is an airbnb. Yeah, hey, you got
blackjack all right here you go exactly right wing to

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double down. Yeah, so what do you what do you think? Pups?

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
Yep, there you go. So that's it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:37):
But I listen, there's certain places just have to have
it every four or five years. We know New Orleans
and the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:39:43):
Did do that for you can have all of the
super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (01:39:46):
You know, eventually the NBA All Star Game will be
back there, which is you know that that I think
they've had it before there, I'm right, And then you
know going through all the baseball with team going there, Yeah,
it's just going to be. It's becoming as it's a
sports place that you got to go. And the great
thing about it is, even if you're not rooting for
the Oakland Age, you'll probably say, I gotta go see

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this ballpark. Yeah, an NBA team will get there, and
college basketball and hoops. It's a that's a smart thing
to do have it there.

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
Well, I mean Allegiance Stadium too, having been to a
game there, it's an awesome venue. It's not even just
the venue. You walk right over the overpass and Mandaloy
Bay is right there. It's a sports book you walk
right in. You know how like people, Oh, entertainment districts.
There's your entertainment district right there. Yeah, well that, yeah,
you got plenty of entertainment there. Hence why they want
to do it. That city will make a bundle of money.

Speaker 5 (01:40:34):
It already does, but yeah, it at some point in time,
all you know, the college National Championship, the NBA and Championship,
if a team from there can win it. We've already
seen the Stanley Cup roll through there. And then with
when it comes to baseball, and you know they'll they'll
they'll be if the A's can ever host the World Series.

(01:40:54):
But when they transfer venues, it's not the home team
getting their venue. Vegas will become a stop for all
of them a regular basis.

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
Like next week for the All Star Game. That's usually
when Rob me and Fred will address things, you know,
announce a future All Star Game, all of that. How
much do you want to bet that Vegas is announced?
I won't show that as soon as soon as they're there,
they're like, we're going to Vegas. It won't shock me
at all. That's just it's a matter of fact.

Speaker 5 (01:41:19):
Vegas probably doesn't even have to work that hard to
get a team to come there, because that's one like
when you're Nick Saban and you're recruiting and then you
finally built some up, they start recruiting you as stead
of you recruiting there. Right, That's what Vegas is now.
It's it's hey, do you guys have a presentation? Yeah,
just show up right. Our presentation lasts about thirty seconds. Yeah,
that's that's our presentation right there.

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
Or do we really need one like Cleveland, Nashville, Buffalo,
which I don't think Buffalo will get a super Bowl,
but like Cleveland's is going to be a dome stadium,
they'll get a super Bowl. Nashville a great host city
and they'll get a super Bowl and they'll be considered,
I mean kind of like you know, what was it
For the longest time, it was Miami, San Diego, and
New Orleans. That's pretty much the three they wanted to

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go with.

Speaker 5 (01:42:00):
And you'd get Pasadena mixed in, which we don't seem
to go back then because it's still tucked in and
you got to drive to the hotels with Pasadena used
to be a stop at Super Bowls. But New Orleans, Miami, Arizona, Yeah,
and Arizona and San Diego all were in the RODA
for the most part.

Speaker 3 (01:42:17):
Unpopular opinion. The Rose Bowl itself in the San Gabriel Mountains. Everything,
it's awesome, it's great, a phenomenal setting. The stadium sucks.
Oh and and now you've got great.

Speaker 5 (01:42:28):
It's a great tailgate place because there's nowhere else to go,
so everybody goes in tailgates and it's the parking on
the golf course. Oh yeah, huge, But but to get it,
there's only a few ways in and out of there, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:42:38):
And it's beautiful.

Speaker 5 (01:42:38):
It's always say it's a beautiful setting for Rose Bull Day.
But the pain in the ass because you had the
parade the morning, you know, all the stuff that goes on.
It's not an easy way in or easy way out.
And funny enough, you know what, when you go to
the stadium, you can look up into the hills. Hey,
that's Oral Herscheiser's house.

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
Because I remember we did a TV spot when I
was working in Atlanta and the guy that was helping
us was from out there in LA and we were like, man,
that's a hell of a house up there.

Speaker 5 (01:43:01):
He goes, Yeah, it's a little hirsheizers staring down, just
staring at the San Gabriel Mountains, the Rose Bowl, laorl No,
hey there you go pick this all loo.

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
Yeah? Could you steal this sign? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:43:13):
That means up yours right. He's not a bad guy.
Just chose the wrong choice of words against the wrong team.
Just chose the wrong choice of words against the wrong team, and.

Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
They hate him. Pay Yeah, it sure does. We'll get
back into the Astros conversation. I know some of you
actually speaking of that conversation. You want to weigh in
on it, so we'll let you do it. Seven one
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hundred car cash someone three two on two up five
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five seven ninety. John on the Northwest Side wants to
weigh in John good morning.

Speaker 15 (01:43:54):
Hey, good morning now, Sean Dan, Hey, look, man, Max
Monty is a great player. He's a great hitter, and
I like him even more now for being on as
opposed to Bellinger. But let me get let me throw
a little nibbidy out there that a lot of people
don't know, but a.

Speaker 9 (01:44:10):
Lot of people do know.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
That seventh game of the World Series.

Speaker 15 (01:44:14):
When they announced the night before that, Dave Robers said
that you Dogish we was starting.

Speaker 9 (01:44:20):
I was screaming up and down.

Speaker 15 (01:44:21):
I was so happy because the Astros busted him down
a lot when he was with the Rangers. You, Dobish,
was one game better than the Astros. That's fifty to
fifty man. When he put him out there, I think
he stated out there, what maybe four five innings. The
Astros was very, very familial with you Doggish when he

(01:44:43):
was pitched. There's no way in the world that I
would have had you Dobbish pitching a seventh game of
the World Series when he's just one game better than
the Astros.

Speaker 9 (01:44:54):
Hey, y'all have a good one, man.

Speaker 5 (01:44:56):
I appreciate the call. I mean, look, the rest is
history after that.

Speaker 3 (01:44:59):
But it's funny you know, thinking back to that, I remembered,
you know, going into Game seven that year and my uncle,
who's a diehard Rangers fan, he texted me that day
and said, you guys are winning the night.

Speaker 5 (01:45:09):
I go, I hope he goes.

Speaker 14 (01:45:11):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:45:12):
I know for a fact because seeing you Darvish pitch
in the postseason here in Arlington, I know what that
guy is. You guys are winning. So I appreciate my
uncle Mickey firm there giving me confidence.

Speaker 5 (01:45:22):
Understanding the real right. Yeah, yeah, we saw a taste
of that definitely here.

Speaker 3 (01:45:26):
So good play, pitcher.

Speaker 5 (01:45:28):
It just wasn't in the clutch against these astros.

Speaker 7 (01:45:31):
It was.

Speaker 5 (01:45:31):
It was pretty difficult. What year was that, seventeen seventeen,
that's why. Yeah, that's exactly right, it was. Boy, it's
been eight years. Yeah, think about that. I'm flying, man, well,
and especially when you're winning, time fly, there's no doubt.
And that's all they keep doing is winning. Now this weekend,
I mean this, uh, this past Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. That's
some tough sledding. Isn't it amazing how quickly you can be,

(01:45:54):
oh my gosh, crushing it and feeling great and then
all of a sudden you get beat three in a row.
And while you love the record, the overall, look at
what they've done. It's that, like I said, it's that
feeling of ugh. Get this taste out of your mouth
before you go to the All Star break, and it
will not be easy against the Rangers, and it's the rival.

(01:46:15):
You shouldn't care about the All Star break. Go take
care of three because you go one and five going in.
It does affect you. It just does well.

Speaker 3 (01:46:21):
And it's funny you mentioned that, because I don't know
if you guys played it. We had played it at
the time. When I was on the A team, there
was this kid on TikTok who did a video of
how football fans react after their team loses, and it
was just him turning off the TV and just saying
to somebody, Ah, tough game, we'll get him next week.
Whereas baseball, you give up a three run lead in

(01:46:43):
the ninth and you just start throwing things around, yelling,
and the whole point of it all is you get
seventeen of those. In the NFL, you get one hundred
and sixty two of these, but you're losing your mind
over one game. I do it.

Speaker 5 (01:46:55):
A lot of us we all do. We all don't.
I used to be more of I can't believe it'd
ruin you for a day. I try not to let
your sports teams affect.

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
The golf.

Speaker 5 (01:47:06):
Does that enough to me? I don't need it to
be my sports team too. But as we talk about
it every day, there are the frustrations because we got
a look on the good stuff, and it's been mostly good.
The injuries have sucked, but the way they've stepped their
game up has been really really easy and fun to
talk about. But it's amazing. We'll also and another thing
we all do is when you're winning, we're still looking

(01:47:28):
being nitpicky of why we didn't win by two runs
instead of we only won by a run, or you
didn't score eight instead of six. We heard that last week.
It's the truth we should be, you know. But when
you lose and you go on win streak, win ten
or row, but you lose that one and then you
lose the game, oh my gosh, everything's fallow. It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter what your record is. Yeah I lost one,

(01:47:49):
but we do. It's like an every night. We want
the perfection and you rarely get perfection. So They've given
us a lot, a lot of good stuff to talk about.
But as as as we've always been reminded, it is
a long season and when you start to get into
these slumps, you can't help it because think about it
as a fan base. If you win five of these six,
you're feeling great going to the All Star break, the

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fans will selfer over to oh, two and four the
last six games, one in five. If it comes to that,
it'll give you that feeling of okay, just a little
bit of doubt of who you are. And then injuries
become even more hyper sensitive. Right, oh, it's starting to
catch up to you. You don't want that. And again,
if you had any mindset of casual going into the
All Star break, which I don't think the Astros have,

(01:48:33):
they just have not played their best and Cleveland's pretty
good and Ramier's as the hell of a player is,
if there's any sense of I can't wait till the
All Star break, follow Sean Casey's advice get yourself underwater
for one hundred and sixty two games and let somebody
else remind you that it's the All Star break and
come up for air and get your time off and
then get back into the grind, and unfortunately that's why

(01:48:54):
they're Fortunately for them, that's why they do it. We
go up and down with our emotion. The players don't
pay aren't nearly as emotional as fans are because they
know the grind and what it takes. But still it
is that there is a psychological aspect of feeling good
going into a break or a vacation, and that's exactly
what they need, aside from the fact that you'd like
to keep those two teams behind you from from gaining ground.

Speaker 3 (01:49:18):
Wow, somebody tracked down Bill Dorn. I mean, because remember
he said that's who it was. There was Bill Dorn
that you know, told him to say to Sean Casey. Yeah, yeah,
you know you're underwater. I'll tell I'll tell you when
they come up. Inducted into the Astros Hall of Fame
a couple of years ago, so I'm sure you could
probably call him up. You know, if you're looking for
somebody before you get into the game tomorrow, call it
Bill Doran and have him go, hey, guys, look, you're

(01:49:40):
still underwater.

Speaker 5 (01:49:40):
Well, how are you going to feel about this team
if they go one and five into the break? I'll
be annoyed. Then they will too. Now they'll think they
can fix it faster, because that's the human nature of
a professional athlete. Settle down, we got this and that's
a good thing. But when you're not the ones got
your hands on it, you feel it's like it helps
it what I can't do it. I'm not the chef
in the kitchen right now.

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
I sit here.

Speaker 5 (01:50:02):
I'm at the so then we'll find every oh yeah,
see here we go SketchUp. And you don't want that.
Even though you've had phenomenal start to your season, we
always remember the last one, especially if it's a loss.

Speaker 3 (01:50:16):
Well, I mean the Jake Myers autio we were playing earlier.
You can hear guys laughing in the clubhouse, and I'm
sure some people, well are they laughing you've lost four
to two because it's one of one sixty?

Speaker 5 (01:50:25):
What are they supposed to do? Suffer? I mean, beat
themselves up over it? They'll do all they'll do, plumper
in silence, right, plenty of it. They'll watch the tape said,
why'd I swing at that? I can't believe I missed that.
When I was a little impatient to plate, I got
to throw a better strike. I got to command the zone,
all those things that they'll do when they rewatch it.
But good gracious if you if they had the emotion
we have, or fans have we have as fans or media,

(01:50:48):
if they had the emotion we do, they never finished
the scene. You'd be a hell. They put you on
the il with emotional distress. Okay, they couldn't do it.
That's the great thing in sports is that you are
so locked in to try and fix it or keep
your momentum or your confidence rolling. You don't have time
to be as emotional as the fans do, which is

(01:51:08):
a good thing for the athlete but crazy for us
because also you're also more emotional when you can't affect
the game from a distance, you know what I mean.
The Astros players can't. I trust that they'll get it
right because they always have. But you still, the mindset
has to be treat the next three games like it's
the Detroit Tigers series in a playoff, short of having

(01:51:30):
to all hands on deck and have Josh Hater wear
his arm, you know, treat it though, Treat it. They
are we counting them way, we are counting these right.

Speaker 3 (01:51:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:51:39):
Divisional opponent and rival. Yeah, and you've lost.

Speaker 3 (01:51:42):
Three in a row.

Speaker 5 (01:51:43):
Yeah, I would take this pretty serious if I was them,
and I think they will.

Speaker 6 (01:51:46):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:51:47):
I got good news on that because it seems like
they're taking it very seriously as well. We'll discuss that
here on the other side as we continue to move
along here on the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

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Speaker 11 (01:53:39):
Get back at it.

Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
That's because he's pitching on Sunday, and with all of
the injuries the Astros have had to this point, a
chance for you to be able to set up your
rotation to give yourself an opportunity this weekend where tomorrow
night you're gonna get Lance mccullor's junior. Now you hope
that it's the Lance mccullor's junior who pitched life last
week against the Dodgers, who pitched earlier this year against

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the A's at Tykan Park. The good news is the
Rangers don't play in the National League Central. Those seem
like the teams that have gotten after Lance mccullor's junior
quite a bit. Saturday you get fromber Valdez, so we
know what fromber has been, We know who he can be,
and you feel good when he's out there. And then
of course Hunter Brown on Sundays. So for all the
things we talked about about trying to keep that intensity

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or Dana Brown, yes today, gas still on, you know,
footstill on the gas here as we get towards the
All Star break. At least you're giving yourself every single
opportunity from that side of things to believe that you
have a good shot in these three games.

Speaker 5 (01:54:38):
There's no doubt I am to me, I'm My whole
approach is to win the entire series against a rival.
I don't need many speeches with the game itself and
the losing streak gets you there. You know what it
feels like to and I do. I know I make
comparisons to golf, but go birdie a hole and you're
feeling great about your game, Dodger series season, and then

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make back to back double bogie's coming out of it,
been there, or make a strike in bowling and then
you're next, or on your final frame goes strike or
and then you go gut or gutter or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:55:13):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:55:14):
We can't close it out right. So it's same thing
you make. You make birdie, Oh man, I gained a
stroke or two on the field, and then what do
you do? You go bogie bogie bogey or bogey double
bogie bogie, And now you're like, oh, okay, I'm still
in first place. That's when the beer gets cracked, right,
all right, I'm still in first place and have had
a good tournament, but damn, I sure as hell I
got to gather myself on whole four now because I'm

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struggling with after my birdie with Bogey Bogey Bogey. Now
we're on whole five and I'm having a problem. One
of them was a double bogie. So it's the same
thing here. Listen, is it panic? If you panic your
your nuts, it's there's no reason don't like the way
the result is the full season. The overall body works
been outstanding this year. It really asks, especially from the
pitching staff and at times the inconsistency hitting. But you've

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gotten some special stuff and you start to see different
guys do that thing, and guys that weren't supposed to
are doing it. But the other side of it is
the pro sports is a fickle part of it, and
losing is part of it, and you never want to
get comfortable with it. But the mindset of it has
got to I would treat this three game series like
a playoff. It has to change before that and their

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mindset maybe just like yours and eyes go win it,
go do it mine, and you are going to have
games you lost, but it's still not going to disrupt
the fact that if you don't take care of your
business in this series, you will not feel good going
into to the Ulstra break, you just won't and neither
will fans. So it is important you to live with
a split three and three, even two and four. Now,

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just take a couple of games and win the series,
and you go in and say, okay, now we can
take a deep breath, gather our sense. It is be
racked back a week from now, or should I say.

Speaker 3 (01:56:51):
Through three or four?

Speaker 5 (01:56:52):
What's it today's Thursday. Yeah, it'll be a week and
a half a week from now when you're on your
travel day to start a series next Friday, and you
can get going. But it is so that I'm a
big guy on the feel good feeling going into a
break and just the confidence and the and I want
them down their All Star break to be able to
relax so they can come out hit the ground running.

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You can't overly relax if you've struggled and your team
struggled in six games going into an All Star break,
it's hard to relax because now you're back on the
you don't want to be grinding those three or four days.
Those are the three or four days you want, a
matter of fact, get rid of baseball. Don't even pay
any attention to it. Feeling good. We feel good when
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Speaker 3 (01:58:15):
Our good buddy, Chris Gordy Cursy of Carbach Brewing. He
joins us every week at this time. And Gordy four
to two last night swept in the series. Sean, and
we were just talking about in the last segment, uh
and Sewn even himself saying no time to panic. Seventeen
games above five hundred.

Speaker 5 (01:58:33):
What say you?

Speaker 10 (01:58:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:58:36):
The good news is the.

Speaker 17 (01:58:37):
Yankees kind of helped do a little bit of your
dirty work for you. And they've you know, beaaten the
Mariners twice, and so this you know, in a series
you get swept, you still out hold a seven and
a half.

Speaker 11 (01:58:49):
Game lead on the Mariners in the division.

Speaker 17 (01:58:51):
So even despite getting swept, you only lost half a
game lead on the Mariners. So that's a you know,
big picture kind of good news of this thing. But man,
I about had a heart attack when I saw Jake
Myers crumble to the ground, you know, before the first
pitch was even thrown. And then you know the weird
odd postgame questioning where you know, they asked them, oh,

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is this is this calf injury worse than the one
a couple of days ago, And it looks at a
team spokesman and goes, do I have to answer that?
I mean, like again, like the lack of transparency on
injury just couldn't use on here.

Speaker 5 (01:59:29):
I'm just curious why they feel that you can't be
honest about injuries. We're not gonna be able to change
it as fans, but that's neither here nor there. That's
the way they handled and most organizations do, even though
they've only lost a half a game. If this slide
continues over the next three, let's just say it does,
there's no way regardless and the lead stays that you
know of Seattle. Let's say they lose three in a
row and so you're getting beat by Texas are there's

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no way you go into the All Star break relaxed.
That's what you're supposed to, get off your feet and rest.
It will still have an effect on them confidence wise.
I you know what would on me, like damn, at
least it starts to creep in, like oh, it started
to catch up with us. I would take these next
three games, Gordy, very very serious.

Speaker 3 (02:00:08):
I would.

Speaker 17 (02:00:10):
Well, and you look at who's pitching. I mean, it's
it's set to go. Mccullor's fromber Hunter Brown. This is
supposed to be your best one, two three punch currently
in the rotation, So you know, And again mccullor's despite
the rough outing two starts ago, the last one, he
was brilliant out there in Los Angeles. So again you
feel good about the rotation. The Rangers have lost three

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out of four, They're going nowhere fast. So yeah, I'm
with you, Sean. I feel like two out of three
this weekend. Will call them everybody's nerves going into the
All Star break.

Speaker 3 (02:00:40):
Yeah, they're gonna be playing the night so as they
close out their series against the Angels.

Speaker 5 (02:00:44):
There in Anaheim again.

Speaker 3 (02:00:46):
Chris Gordy Curtsey at Carbach Brewing joining us here for
his Thursday visit. Let's get back to the injuries thing here, Gordy,
because I mean, you get the news last night with
Myers you mentioned it, you know, of being questioned in
the clubhouse, But I mean it's not only where it's
a quick setback. Jord On Kyle Tucker last year, all
the pitchers who were supposed to come back last year

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and didn't. Do you feel like at the end of
the season this is going to have to be even
if you don't make it public, Jim Crane and the
astros have to look at this and say, look, injuries
are gonna happen, but why aren't our guys getting back sooner?

Speaker 11 (02:01:21):
Yeah, And that was my kind of reaction yesterday, is
like that this enough is enough.

Speaker 17 (02:01:27):
Like we have to look at the who who you know,
how they manage everything from injury diagnosis to training to
rehab everything. Look the staff overall, you know, Jeremiah has
been around a long time, like he's done a great
job with them, but sometimes things run its course, right,
Sometimes it's just time to make a change, you know.
Same thing with you know, people were like, why why

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are they getting rid of Dusty Baker? It was just
time and it run its course. And I think that's
that might be where they are right now with as
far as training staff.

Speaker 6 (02:01:58):
And and.

Speaker 17 (02:02:00):
Everything if alved with injuries, because this is just insane.
I mean, you should not have this many pitchers falling
with Tommy John. You should not have this many position
players with injuries that last months and months, going back
to Tucker last year, going to Jordan this year. I mean,
it's just again, injuries happen. Sometimes it's just freak accidents.

(02:02:21):
I get it, But man, it feels like they've had
more guys on the il the last two three years
than any team in baseball. And I gotta look at
how you know, the people in charge are.

Speaker 11 (02:02:35):
Conditioning guys and everything else.

Speaker 5 (02:02:38):
Can they win a World Series without getting star power
healthy again? Can they win a World Series with the
other guys being the best players on their team for
the most part this year?

Speaker 11 (02:02:49):
They can if the pitching is continues to be dim.

Speaker 5 (02:02:51):
Including those other guys in it too, the Gusto's and
that group and the Gordon's and the bullpen that some
we didn't count on. Are they bull of winning the
whole thing without star power playing like stars?

Speaker 17 (02:03:04):
Yeah, we see it all the time, Sean. There are
teams that win, that can win a World Series with
dominant hitting. There are teams that can win World Series
with dominant pitching, and and this Astros team is built
behind dominant pitching.

Speaker 11 (02:03:19):
And that's if they're gonna get there and win it.
That's how they're gonna do it.

Speaker 17 (02:03:21):
So uh, you know again knock on wood, but best
one to two punch in baseball and tram Ar Valdez
and Hunter Brown and then all the other guys filling
in behind them if they're gonna win at all, that's
how they're gonna do it. But you know, relying on oh,
when we get your do on back and we get
this by I just I'm done, you know, going well, well, yeah,

(02:03:42):
I can't wait till that guy comes back.

Speaker 11 (02:03:43):
The offense is what it is at this point.

Speaker 17 (02:03:45):
But again, if L two ve keeps doing al two
A things, esak paratus. I mean awesome that he gets
named to an All Star team for second consecutive year.
You see exactly why they wanted this guy so badly
in a trade deadline move last year. You know, those
guys are enough to get it done. But if they're
gonna win a world ZERI sew it's going to be
winning games of the postseason.

Speaker 11 (02:04:06):
Three to two or two to one. You know's that's
how they're.

Speaker 3 (02:04:10):
Gonna get it done again. Chris Gordy join us here
on the Sean Salisbury Show for his Thursday visit Curtesy
at Carbock Browing speaking of East Soak parretis is it
safe to say, Gordy, he's exceeded our expectations this year,
both offensively and over at third base.

Speaker 17 (02:04:25):
I think so, you know, you'd like the average to
be a little bit higher, but I get it. It's
twenty twenty five. Batting average is not the end all,
be all stat It's it's everything that you do. It's slugging,
it's ops, it's all that, and he's been very good there.
So and the second part of that is, I think
you hit on it. I don't think we give him
enough credit for his defense and what he's done there

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over at third base. I mean, look, Alex Bregnan was
a stalwart. They're at third, you know, defensive just guy
falling out of bounds, making ridiculous throws.

Speaker 11 (02:04:56):
Paratus has had a couple of those moments this year already, and.

Speaker 17 (02:05:00):
I feel like it's a little bit underappreciated. Same thing
with Christian Walker when he's been at first base. Yeah,
the hitting hasn't been there, but the defense has. He's
been very very good there defensively. So yeah, I feel
like all that kind of goes into it. And you know,
I was talking about this yesterday. You know, you remember
go back to the spring training and you know, at
Red Sox fans were so excited when they got Alex

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Bregman and there was a day game that day and
I remember Bregnant hit his first you know, home run
in spring training and everybody's going nuts. Sports centers like
leading off with it, Oh my god, the Red Sox
got pregnant. And then later that night, you know, little
seven ninety we have East SoC Paradis goes yard and
I'm like, nobody's talking about it. You know, it's just

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like and again en not trying to compare the two,
but there has not been much drop off there from
Bregmant leaving at third and Parade's coming in there. And
know so excited for him to be able to be
named to an All Star team. And keep mind he's
only twenty six. I mean, he's still got maybe some
of his best years ahead of him. So absolutely love
him being there and excited for him being.

Speaker 3 (02:06:01):
Yeah, what a joy it's been to have him on
this roster doing what he's doing.

Speaker 5 (02:06:05):
All Right, if you're the general manager, what area are
you addressing and how serious are you addressing it? At
the trade deadline?

Speaker 11 (02:06:14):
I mean, I think you need another bat? Uh, you know,
we talked about a left handed bat. What position? I
don't know.

Speaker 17 (02:06:22):
You know, we saw Dj Lemaye get designated for assignment
yesterday by the Yankees, and I get it, that's a
guy in his late thirties that his best years are
behind him. But you know, you got a guy Brendan
Rodgers on the il when he come, Like, are we
really gonna put him back out there when he gets
back healthy? Like you know, al Twov has been playing
a lot more second, you know, but I just wonder, like,

(02:06:43):
is that a guy you could pick up on the
cheap to just kind of add.

Speaker 11 (02:06:46):
And and again, this was a guy.

Speaker 17 (02:06:47):
That years ago was one of the best hitting players
in all baseball in djit La Maye. So when I
saw he got released yesterday I was or designated for assignment,
I was like, all right, maybe that's a guy I
might look at. That's that ain't gonna cost me much.
But as far as the trade deadline, yeah, I mean,
I think barring the news on this Jake.

Speaker 11 (02:07:05):
Myers injury, and it did not look good.

Speaker 17 (02:07:07):
I mean for him to leave before the game even starts,
and he goes to the outfield, he doesn't even like,
he didn't even go to the doug he just goes
straight to the outfield.

Speaker 11 (02:07:15):
You rarely see that. That just got me very warried.

Speaker 17 (02:07:18):
So immediately start going, all right, is there an outfielder
out there that they can go get?

Speaker 11 (02:07:21):
I just I think a bat. Regardless. Look, if you
want to add another arm, I'm fine with it.

Speaker 17 (02:07:27):
You're you're getting by right now with this this rotation
with Gusto and Brandon Walter and these guys, You're you're
getting by. But if you want to add another proven arm,
I'm fine with that as well. The problem becomes guys,
and again we all championed Oh.

Speaker 11 (02:07:43):
Nextra wild card spot. I love it.

Speaker 17 (02:07:45):
The problem with that is you got too many buyers
and not enough sellers at the deadline, and so what
happens is the asking price is monumentally high. And to
be real, the Astros in their farm system, they can't
get into a bidding war with some of the big
dogs out there. The Dodgers, as good as they are,
still have a loaded farm system. They still have some

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top prospects they willing to part with. And you know,
it's like going to the poker table and you got
eighty bucks and everybody else got a thousand. Like that's
what the Astros are. I'm going getting to the trade deadline.
So we end up on the postgame show there to night,
I have people calling in with some big Hey, you
think they get this guy or al Kantara and all
this guy. I'm like, guys, like they're not going to
be in on any of the premier names.

Speaker 11 (02:08:27):
They're just not.

Speaker 3 (02:08:29):
Yeah, that's a hard reality to be faced with, but
that seems like that's what the Astros are. Gordy, we
got the three games series this weekend, then it's the
All Star break I mean three more good chances at
the ballpark doing enjoy some Crawford Bach and then of
course maybe even a little relaxation for you, a little
you know, easy watching with the All Star Game, a
chance to be able to enjoy some car Bock Brewing.

Speaker 11 (02:08:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (02:08:52):
I had a buddy text me last night said, you know, hey,
I'm at the game. We're down to nothing. This sucks,
but hey, at least I'm enjoying a cross. And you know,
a lot of you guys enjoy the Crawford Bock from
Carbock Brewing when you're over there at the ballpark watching
the Astros. And uh, you know, some great stuff going
on over there at car Back. In fact, we'll be
talking about all next week. They are putting together a

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special donation to send over to the Hill Country with
all the flood relief efforts over there. They're gonna be
offered a special edition T shirt. Again, one hundred percent
of those proceeds are gonna go over to the flood
relief over there in the Hill Country. And that's just
another one of the great things that the folks of
our car Back do. So if you're interested in more information,

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you can check them out to google Carbock Brewing ahead
to their website and you can make a donation there
and certainly a great cause. And like I said, they'll
be offering those T shirts starting next week.

Speaker 3 (02:09:45):
There we go, Chris Cordy, you're the best, buddy, appreciate it.
We'll catch up with actually I'll be with you in person,
but we'll still catch up with you next Tuesday at nine.
That good stuff, man, Thank you?

Speaker 11 (02:09:55):
All right, fellows see it all right?

Speaker 3 (02:09:56):
There you go Chris Cordy, Me and him live in
Atlanta for SEC Media Days and the All Star Game festivities.

Speaker 5 (02:10:02):
Real quick before we go to Brick. I was impressed
slow Star, you know, now give up two runs and
then grind through six. I thought, I thought he did
a really nice job of doing what you need to
do to continue to preserve a bullpen even in a loss,
and to be able to push it that far was
really good. After us, you know, you give up a
couple of bombs early in the game and to settle

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in that those type of things is what you're looking for,
because they will continue to rear their head because it's easy.
If you're up for nothing. How do you respond then?
And I thought they responded well, and they've done that
a couple of times. The series of the problem is
they just couldn't put enough runs across the plate and
close it out.

Speaker 3 (02:10:40):
That's sure the problem now, no doubt about it. Gordy's
a big college football guy. Let's get into a little
bit of college football. Because somebody called their shot and
do we necessarily believe them.

Speaker 5 (02:10:49):
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Nineteen that will be taken part in the game or
at least available to the American League side because Brown's
gonna pitch on Sunday against the Astros and Jeremy Panea
still on the IL. But Big Twelve media days happened
in the last couple of days up there in Frisco, Sean,
and you know they're usually the one that gets everything
going because next week, as I mentioned, me and Gordy

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will be in Atlanta, it's SEC media Days, and then
you get the ACC going, you get everybody, and then
a couple of weeks from now you get fall camps
going well. Brett Yormark is the commissioner of the Big Twelve,
and all of these conference commissioners whenever their media days
get going, they give kind of a state of the
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couple of days ago, had this to say about what
he thinks of his league when it comes to them
stacking up against everybody else.

Speaker 12 (02:14:10):
I believe we will be the deepest football conference in America.

Speaker 1 (02:14:15):
No league offers the competitive balance that we do. I
fully expect the.

Speaker 12 (02:14:21):
Big Twelve to earn multiple college football playoff.

Speaker 2 (02:14:25):
Bids this year.

Speaker 3 (02:14:26):
All right, that's all fine and good, and I get
what he's doing because I mean, he's speaking up for
his conference and we're not going to do a deep
dive in the how good Arizona State is or how
good Kansas State is?

Speaker 5 (02:14:37):
Could you of h be a team this year? None
of those things.

Speaker 3 (02:14:39):
But what he fails to also recognize by saying that
is okay, if it's you and say it's TCU and
they're ten and two this year and they're fighting for
one of those final spots, maybe nine to three would
be more like it for one of those final spots.
And Tennessee is fighting for that final spot. Who do
you think, miraculously is going to get that final spot?

Speaker 5 (02:15:02):
And that's part of the problem that people can't stand
about the committees and they're voting. That's why people complain
about all this stuff in the way they're doing it,
because they think it's going to be an SEC or
a Big Ten team more than an SEC team that
always gets the nod. If everything's equal, now, there is
something to it. To me, the deepest conference in college
football and has been for a while, is the SEC's

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watched the drafting. My team Miama Mater is not there.
They're in the Big Ten and they were in the
pack tob It has nothing to do because I have
the skin in the game with my Trojans. But I'm
always going to be fair about it. The SEC is
the deepest conference in college football period. Matter of fact,
the Big twelve basketball conference is actually probably deeper and
better than the football conference is not probably it is,

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but the football conference is good and wants to be great.
That's the commissioner. That's exactly what he should say expected.
Plus it's a little games when ship like getting in
the referees face early, you know, and you miss a call,
maybe take a team and say, well, what are we
going to do this? Then before later on there's a
foul that really wasn't a foul and you get the
call because you work the referee. Same thing here. You

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don't think there's a hint in his voice of Hey, committee,
I'm just letting you know that they're putting it in
your mind that were pretty good well along with that,
whether they have multiple teams, I don't know, but yes,
And that's a problem that a lot of fan bases have.
Even if it was fact that the Tennessee should have
gone ahead of the Big Twelve final team to get in,

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it's an SEC team that they think that no matter what,
even if they didn't deserve it, if everything was equal,
and maybe even at the Big Twelfth, the final team
or one of the teams to get in had a
little bit, but they scored more points, but everything else,
defense was good. They were third as well as the
SEC team. They would probably still lean to the SEC

(02:16:49):
because there's this perception that well, they're just better and
they travel and all that. Well, that part I do
get why fans in certain media and those Big twelve
cities and schools that it bothers them, and it should,
but that's what happens when you build a reputation as
the best conference football. And now with the Big Ten
adding the schools that they've added, they're second in the

(02:17:11):
pecking order and the Big Twelve in the ACC. I'm
not saying they're chasing because they're that far off, but
they are in the chase mode. The psychologue the optics
of who the two best conferences are. That's a fact.
That's just the way they're going to think.

Speaker 3 (02:17:24):
So you're right.

Speaker 5 (02:17:25):
Doesn't make it right, but if all things being equal,
they are probably going to lean towards Tennessee before they'd
take Kansas State. Now, I have a big problem if
you've earned it, and because of history, we're taken. See,
history has zero to do with twenty twenty five unless
that history is ingrained in somebody's minded. You got to

(02:17:48):
take the SEC well, because that's just what we do.
Give me the best one, I don't care. But however,
the criteria is that they're going to judge on when
they sit in those rooms and all the stuff that
comes to fruit that helps them choose. If it's equal,
you better find one more stat or whatever it is
it gets whoever it is over the top, because all

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things being equal, you just can't lean towards SEC because
it's SEC, although I think history has forced that, but
you got to get that out of your mind. It's
got to compartmentalize where this year has to be. You've
got to vote on what happens in the result and
go down each level of criteria. Even if the fans
or some ad or some person or some fan base

(02:18:32):
is going to ridicule you, because well, and we see
it every year that but you're right, Dan, the optics
will say you can never go wrong taking the SEC team.
I don't know if that's right, but you can't go wrong.
But also, make no mistake about this, the best conference
in college football overall depth wise is the SEC. Big

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Ten's pretty damn close. Big twelve is going to get better.

Speaker 3 (02:18:57):
Acc usually judge all the team the Clemson, there's good
teams at.

Speaker 5 (02:19:03):
The top right on all conferences. Now you may have
five really good teams and three in one other. How
I judge it is the bottom.

Speaker 3 (02:19:10):
Half of the conference.

Speaker 5 (02:19:12):
Who's your worst and where do they fit in? And
if if that's where the depth comes in. And if
your tenth team is better than my tenth team and
everything's equal, going in great, well, we'll give you that.
The Big twelve's got a minute to go before they're
going to get into the point where they're the deepest
conference in a perception and performance in college football.

Speaker 3 (02:19:32):
And that's where the gamesmanship you were talking about the
problem is Greg sink he's good at the gamesmanship too,
Tony Pettiti and the Big Ten he's good at the
He's good at the games So they're showing.

Speaker 5 (02:19:42):
Good at gamesman ship. They're good at actually forcing it
down your throat, saying it almost ultimatum stuff. I mean,
because the power right, it's a TV show, right, is
what people need to remember about this. And these places
have to be able to fill these stadiums. They want
fans at their at their games, they want people watching it.
So whether you want to believe that or not, that's

(02:20:02):
on you. But it's also the quiet part being said
out loud of yeah, hey, guess what. Oh, we can
give you all the resume and everything else of that,
but we don't have to justify it to you. Tennessee
they'll be there, Oklahoma or excuse me, Ohio State. They'll
be there. Why because they fit both of those criteria,
both of those conferences, and they they're right. They don't

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have to pine for your stuff because everybody else, I mean,
they already are the lead dog. They don't have to
look in their rear view mirror very often. Now there's
teams that are as good. I mean Big Ten team
wins the national championship here, we'll see that, and we're
talking about both. But it's clearly the SEC and the
Big Ten are two best conferences in college football period.
That doesn't mean there's not really good teams and good

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depth in ACC and the Big Twelve. We're talking Big
Twelve here, but from top to bottom, I think even
if you're a hardcore fan of your team that's in
the ACC or Big twelve, or even when I was
in the pack, you know, the PAC twelve, when the
Trojans were there before this realignment, you can still admit, yeah,
we go Oregon and SC and Washington, we're pretty good.

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We're good at the top. But at the time when
you're bringing up when we need the low inside one
very good. And now you know, built with Washington State
got better. Cal's been well coached, They've getting some good players,
and look what Arizona State did last year. Now you
have an argument, but the probably is those teams are
now in a different conferences out of the PAC twelve.

Speaker 3 (02:21:22):
And I could even admit the PAC.

Speaker 5 (02:21:23):
Twelve, Oh, we'll have some quarterbacks and we'll throw it
all over the place. But when it gets down to offense, defense,
special teams and winning championships and getting after it, the
PAC twelve was not the deepest. And why do you
think they left. They want more money and they want
different competition, They want different It's just the way it works.
So it goes SEC Big ten close, the raigning champion
sits in the Big Ten. Well, the last two years

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it's been a Big Ten champion. Have was wasn't it
Michigan the year before, so last two years. So SEC's
got something to prove to win the national title. Yet
we know what their history is. The Big Twelve and
the ACC are the ones that on moving. They need
to shoot sixty two as opposed to sixty eight. SEC
shoots sixty eight. You'll get more teams in a time,
probably than you deserve because of the history of it.

(02:22:06):
And there is a little bit of well, we're going
to take less flack putting an SEC team in because well,
it's the SEC and that's the part of history.

Speaker 3 (02:22:14):
You got to let go.

Speaker 5 (02:22:15):
You've got to compartmentalize and say this year, who's the best.
The Big Twelve is not the deepest conference in college
or a TV show.

Speaker 3 (02:22:22):
You're also a business and you're going to upset people,
but you know what, let them be upset.

Speaker 5 (02:22:27):
Well, we've got money to earn. Asn't every business go
through where there's a certain part of it, somebody's going
to be upset about it. If you cater to always
cater and worried about the ones that are upset, you
won't get the top part of it, right.

Speaker 3 (02:22:37):
That's what Jack, That's what Jack Nicholson told Danny DeVito
and Hofa, you slide a man who remember it.

Speaker 5 (02:22:43):
The rest of his life, so exactly. They always do
and we always do, and how you choose to handle
it is up to you.

Speaker 3 (02:22:50):
Well, speaking of slighting people and maybe even being a
tad narcissistic, a little bit of a throwback topic here,
because somebody last week just couldn't stop talking fucking and
I'm ready for them to do that. We'll talk about
him right here. It is a Shawn Salisbury show, Sports
Talk seven ninety. The seven ninety listener line here in
the nine o'clock hour is presented by one eight hundred

(02:23:10):
car cash. You know, talk with somebody to take notes
all of those different things. We got the lists on
the side of the refrigerator life rules, you know, pay
No Mind are our white whale list of guests that
we really want to have on the show. Which maybe
we can have some good news on that sooner rather
than later. I don't know, who knows. You just got
to stick and stay with us here on the show
to find that out. But another addition to the pay

(02:23:32):
No Mind list, As a matter of fact, he wasn't
even In addition, he was at the top of the
list Jackie easter Bee. He's at it again, and last
week he was on the Ross Tucker podcast and talking
about his time in Houston. It's no audio, just reading
the quotes, but talking about at the beginning the passion
of the fan base and saying, yeah, hey, you know

(02:23:53):
it's a passionate fan base. You know they want to
be you know, competing in January for a championship. That's
a good thing. All of that. This is the one
that got me. I think during my time in Houston,
we had a lot of transition. In twenty eighteen, the
owner he passed away, Bob McNair. He was such a
great legacy for the city Houston in sports and I
think made a tremendous difference in Houston sports history, landing

(02:24:16):
the Texans by bringing them there. When he transitions, that's
a huge thing. Then obviously a lot of staff staff
members transitioned in the front office. Some of those obviously
I know, well, some of them I didn't know as well.
What cracks me up about that, as the irony of
all of this is he doesn't even understand you were

(02:24:37):
a huge reason for the transition. Jack You were in
a position you should not have been in either through
misleading people or somehow manipulating your way into that spot.
You were the reason for the transition. Just go away, man, Like, seriously,
just go away. You're not part of this anymore. Everything
that has happened from here on out with the Miko

(02:24:59):
Ryans and Nick Serio is Nick Cassiio and Demiko Ryans,
Hannah McNair also taking more of an active role in
the ownership. You have nothing to do with the good
that is happening right now at the Houston Texans.

Speaker 5 (02:25:11):
Not a one thing. When I uh on teams I've
been on.

Speaker 3 (02:25:17):
And players that I've talked to that have been on
other teams, or the Bible study guy usually doesn't get
to make football decisions. Remember with Belichick, they asked him
about Easter p and he was like, check's not a personnel.

Speaker 5 (02:25:29):
Guy, like he laughed it off. The Bible study guy
doesn't get to make football decisions. He's there as a
help meet for the players. You know, prayer night before
morning of little devotional and you know what, every team
has has has a guy and it serves an important
purpose of course big time. The problem is, like what
happened with this entire organization in that transition. He's talking

(02:25:53):
about the Bill O'Brien Jack Easter be front office change
with Rick Smith when he let you know when they
move ownership down to cal all those things is somehow,
some way things got skewed and you started putting people
in positions they weren't qualified for, and you started to
see people seek more power. Two in particular, and there

(02:26:15):
may be more well. Three. The quarterback himself ran this
franchise into the ground, and that was self inflicted by him,
and they ran him out.

Speaker 3 (02:26:25):
There's one.

Speaker 5 (02:26:26):
What happened was I'll never forget excuse me.

Speaker 3 (02:26:28):
We were coming out of the when they won the
playoffs and lost, coming into it the next year, and
it was a year when they gave Bill O'Brien added
more power to him.

Speaker 5 (02:26:39):
I remember interviewing and I can't remember who was a
national was on our show, and I said, what is
so so are they going to take away? Maybe it
was maybe it may have been local. Maybe it might
have been our guy, Brian T. Smith. It might have
been Brian. I can't remember if it was Brian or
not because at that time, and I remember saying, are

(02:27:01):
they gonna what are they gonna do with Bill? Are
they gonna you know, just just coaching up.

Speaker 3 (02:27:05):
What are they gonna do?

Speaker 5 (02:27:05):
Is he is he under any fire or is there
any And you know what he said, Oh, no, he's
gonna get more power. And I said, you've got to
be kidding me. Well, I'll be damned. He was spot on.

Speaker 3 (02:27:17):
I think I feel like it was Brian t I do,
because he's always straight forward all of it, asked the
destroyed questions right, and he said, and I said, you're
kidding me.

Speaker 5 (02:27:26):
And I'll be damned, dude. Within a within a week
or two weeks, he was given the GM role. I
mean he was had all the power in the building.

Speaker 3 (02:27:33):
So it was a couple.

Speaker 5 (02:27:34):
And then Jack Easterby went from Bible study good guy
I'm sure needed on every team to next thing. You know,
he's given speeches, making helping with personnel decisions, all that
at no team have I ever been on has anybody
ever been promotioned from the guy who prayed the night
before a morning of a game with you that now
he is went from pastor and the feel good Bible

(02:27:58):
study devotional guy to where to sticking him into point
where he's in big time decisions. No, that guy doesn't
even sit in the conference room. And then Bill O'Brien,
who is a good x as and o's guy, where
the downfall came? Yeah, just ask him. But when the
downfall came, what you did? If Bill O'Brien would have

(02:28:20):
stuck to just doing x's and o's, he may still
be a head coach in the NFL.

Speaker 13 (02:28:25):
Now.

Speaker 5 (02:28:25):
I know he's at Boston College where he's his area
where he grew up, and that's fine. But Bill got
to the point where the power overtook him and he
used it to his disadvantage instead of the right way,
and then all hell broke lose. So yeah, Jack, Jack
was let's just put it. When it come to the
football stuff, Jack easter Bye was given more than he
should have and was overwhelmed and was in over his

(02:28:48):
head and should have had zero impact on the football decisions.

Speaker 3 (02:28:53):
Pray with the.

Speaker 5 (02:28:53):
Guys, give him something to lean on if they're going
through trouble, protect them, keep it private, do all that devotionals,
give good speed, all that stuff. If somebody needs you away,
say say Jack, I like talking about this Bible verse. Great.
He's not in the personnel business and he never was
in Belichick knew it. The problem with here is they
didn't see that a twenty year successful organization. Then they
went and got the different guy, Nick Cassro, and they

(02:29:14):
got the right guy. Who's not a Bible study guy.
He's a personnel guy. If I want scripture, let me
go get a pastor, a bishop in the Mormon Church
or somebody in a non denomination, or a cathol or
preacher to talk to me about that. When I want
a football guy, I'll go get a football guy. Okay,
I'm not going to hire a marketing person to break
down tape on x's and o's. I'm going to actually

(02:29:35):
hire an x's and o's person. So understanding your role,
they just didn't define roles, and they gave roles to
people that quite frankly, weren't qualified for them and were
in over their head. And then when they got the power,
they abused it and it set this franchise on its ear.
And oddly, the fact that they are back here now
and make good decisions tribute to the caw mcnare and
the ownership, but also the Demico Ryans and Nick Cassiro.

(02:29:57):
The pecking order now there's a no brainer who's making
decisions here right down from the call all the way down,
and when you define that and then if you're not
good at it, once you know your role and you
don't execute it, then you just wait, just replace sh
It's nothing personal.

Speaker 3 (02:30:12):
Time to move on.

Speaker 5 (02:30:13):
The problem is they had wrong guys do anything. Did
Bill O'Brien go give the sermon?

Speaker 14 (02:30:17):
Do?

Speaker 3 (02:30:17):
Was Bill O'Brien teaching Bible study? Okay?

Speaker 5 (02:30:20):
What was he doing coaching football? Did I don't know,
maybe I'm wrong. Became an executive? Did the offensive coordinator
at the time go in there and say, you know what,
let me teach us all the time?

Speaker 6 (02:30:32):
No?

Speaker 10 (02:30:32):
He did.

Speaker 5 (02:30:32):
He may have showed up the devotional and let the
expert on on j telling me about Matthew, Mark, Luke
and John which is important, or praying, or just getting
into your inside psyche for confidence. They had people out
of position, wrong play. I'm going to take my quarterback
and line him up a right guard. What kind of
success we're going to have. That's the problem with this.
It's actually a tribute to the players and the way

(02:30:54):
they did that. They could actually win division titles with
absolutely zero direction and now they got it, which is
good thing.

Speaker 3 (02:31:00):
There was a time where it was, oh, you're thinking
of making that decision? All right, Hey, let's go ahead
and go the complete opposite direction. But luckily those times
are a thing of the past. How many Bibles, I mean,
Bible study is important. Like I said, I get it.
I'm a god fearing man.

Speaker 5 (02:31:13):
How many teams do you know took their pastor or
their devotional guy and turned him into a personnel decision maker?
One and they were here in town? And is anybody
else hired him?

Speaker 13 (02:31:23):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:31:23):
To do that job? Not the devotion to do that job. No,
that's what I thought. There you go, Larry, So you
want to get in on this, I'll let you do
that also too. It's nice to get a glimpse behind
the scenes, and we've gotten that chance. We'll talk about
it here. It is Sewn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:31:40):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 5 (02:31:44):
That's beautiful.

Speaker 11 (02:31:47):
Oh man.

Speaker 3 (02:31:47):
I always love when this guy calls in, and I
want to give him as much time as possible. Larry
and Stafford, I know what you want to talk about,
floor is yours, sir?

Speaker 11 (02:31:56):
What's the bood dogs?

Speaker 3 (02:32:00):
Thank you appreciate it? Yep, all good man.

Speaker 10 (02:32:03):
You know it's always good to get in, it's out
of them with two of my favorite people. Man, look here, man,
let me start out with Jack east to Be, old
silly ass man.

Speaker 11 (02:32:11):
Look if I had anything.

Speaker 10 (02:32:13):
To do with helping pushing his ass out of town,
I want to pet myself on the back because he
was a snake and he was one of those dudes
that had probably grew up watching Jim and Tammy fay
Baker and decided to slither his ass into htown and
try to ruin my franchise. That was probably the worst

(02:32:33):
time I had ever experienced as a Houston Texans fan,
watching him and Bill O'Brien through the destructive stuff that
they was doing over there on Kirby and trying to
sell us this opportunity to go out there and watch
them do this kind of stuff when we all knew
it was all based on a whole bunch of just
evil and slick stuff.

Speaker 11 (02:32:53):
Jack east to Be, you came into this town pretending
to be.

Speaker 10 (02:32:57):
Some kind of savant and some kind of bible he
was gonna be able to rectify his life and make
us all believe that he was one of these people
that had all our best will in when all we
was trying to do was watch our boys go to
the super Bowl. And when Pinky Ring and Hannah finally
had enough of his nest, they ran his hands out
of town. So Jack used to be need to go

(02:33:19):
see his ballheaded ass down somewhere in South Carolina and
try to figure out what other kind of group he's
gonna try to con because he wasn't conning me because
I saw his ass coming the moment that he took
over the role when he was trying to gain power
when Rick Smith's wife got hurt or became ill, makes
you rest in peace. So we saw what Jack used
to be with it out and now that we got

(02:33:41):
Nick Cassarior Denitho Ryans over that running thing, now you see.

Speaker 11 (02:33:44):
What a good football organization look like. And that's what
it's all about.

Speaker 10 (02:33:48):
Because a diehard Texans fan that somebody that loves sports
in the Ah, it's all about winning a championship. And
I think my boys over there on Kirby is on
that path. Full dog.

Speaker 11 (02:33:59):
Let me say this off.

Speaker 10 (02:34:00):
So I'm gonna go ahead and give a big blessing
out to all my friends that went to Shriner up
in kurvefil and all the people that's living up.

Speaker 11 (02:34:08):
There in that area.

Speaker 10 (02:34:09):
Man that went through that Man, that's a devastating thing
to see them family being destroyed like that. So it's
always just something that we're gonna have to go through.

Speaker 11 (02:34:18):
But Texas is strong, man, so we gonna do what
we do in our hall.

Speaker 3 (02:34:21):
Oh Man, Larry appreciate it Man especially also too at
the end right there, one hundred percent. Donate, give, do
whatever you can do. Help these people out. They need
it more than ever. And you know it's a lot
of a lot of healing that's still to be had
with what happened over the weekend. That's absolutely amen, man,
for sure.

Speaker 5 (02:34:39):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (02:34:40):
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Speaker 5 (02:34:45):
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Speaker 3 (02:34:47):
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