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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Let the celebration start.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
War.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
John Salisbury the Sewan Salsbury Show Dominic wants to weigh
in here on the Shawn Salisbury Show Dominic.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
What's up.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Good morning to you, Sean, Good morning to you Dan, Dan.
This is my first time Carlin Sinsue taking over the seat,
so welcome my man.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Well, thanks buddy, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Man.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Sean, you know where I'm going with this. You tell
you guys are talking about the bad days of sports franchises. Dan,
I'm a Houston Cougar to the heart. I was a
Houston Cougar when the football team was trashed with no
one to Robertson Stadium. I'm a lawyer, Houston Cougar when
hop Pine's pavilion had maybe thirty or forty people. And
I'm proud Sean knows this about me. I'm so proud,
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and make no mistake about it. Kelvin Sampson is the
reason why Kelvin has made my school, my institution a brand.
When you have national media and people talk about the
national media that they don't get to Houston our props,
you got to earn earn that type of that type
of talk. Kelvin Sampson has walked in and he's talked
that he's grinded my institution, University of Used to to
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national prominence. We just hire a really, really good women's
basketball coach because the women's program is taken off and
we want to be a part of that. What Chilman
Fatida has done for my institution as far as being
the chairman of the board and finding all of these
the renovations to the facilities and just just doing big things,
I'm proud of that. But Kelvin Sampson has shown with
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hard work, dedication, getting out there, not being embarrassed to
to not so much lawyer yourself to walk around the
campus with a megaphone. I saw it. I actually saw it.
I was a grad student and I saw him. When
we hired him, it was it was, you know, skulled
of us. You know what he did at Olklahoma and
things of that nature. But I felt that my heart
it was a good hire. So all I want to
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say is whether we win it all or don't. Sean,
I've been calling your show since you've been on the air.
That's not what's important to me. What's important to me
is he has raised the bar for the university, if
used to athletic department. He has raised the bar for
US academically. We graduate, he graduates our kids. He makes
them into a good man and across our entire athletic landscape.
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That's the expectation, that's the standard that he is. He
has set. Met the man so many times, Shaun, you
are friends with him. He's a great guy, he's a
great leader, and he is the reason why that US
logo is now mentioned just in regularity all over the country.
As for as basketball and what the program, other aspects
of our program could be, my man, Dan, you would
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hear from me again. I don't really have a lot
of time Alo. You guys got other callers, but go koons.
Thank you, Kelvin Sampson and Shawn. One more thing, Please
give me just thirty maybe ten cents. Chinta. I appreciate
your show because you talk about more than just the obvious.
You talk about everything, and everything is for US, Golf, whatever,
it doesn't matter. So man, keep up the good work.
I've said this once a year before your show is
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a God said your fresh birth of fresh air, because
we get tired of hearing about the quote unquote what
people want to hear.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Thank you man. I appreciate it, a buddy, phenomenal compliment.
I sure appreciate it. And you've from day one been
calling here and your passion for your Cougars is unmatched
honestly that I and we get a lot of great callers,
but he he's It's almost like it's in his soul,
and I think it is, and I do appreciate the compident.
I don't take you guys with this show or this
career for granted ever, and I never will, so I
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know what the other side looks like, and I prefer
this one. I am with you too on I mean,
you make so many great points that I don't think
I can uplift those because they're very well pointed out
and taken.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
But the main one is and maybe I'm a little more.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Emotional to it like he is, because I love Coach
Sampson and I've had conversations with him that aren't just
and I'm not afraid to let people into those that
go beyond X's and o's basketball, and those are the one.
I mean, he is a phenomenal, deep dive human being
who cares. I hear a lot of coaches spewedbs about Karen.
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They care about their kids when their kids are good
for him. I can picture Calvin Samson going to a
former player's house and having dinner with his family. I
love him, and don't tell me that a coach. A
lot of times we say, well, one person doesn't make
a difference. That that's not true. One person can't win
a baseball game, can sure help, but one manager can
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bring a whole bunch of players together to win.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Leadership is Leadership is maybe.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
The most important and under used thing we have in
the country.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
The right leadership. I'm talking about in sport anywhere.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And sometimes it just comes along and a guy gets it,
and a guy really is not here for just a paycheck.
Everybody wants to get paid for their job. But a
guy and I believe if you're there for the paycheck,
that there's that eventually that can run out. You know,
if you're there for the awards and the paycheck, it's
that deep dive inside. I think Kelvin said the money's
just the ad on or you know, him getting paid
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to coach. I think coach Samson would coach for free.
Now nobody's gonna do that in this day but you
get my point. He does care. And I can tell
you this not absolutely not family. As you can see,
there's heavy family involved, but he doesn't just have family
sitting around that aren't doing anything. You've got people that
are that are making things happen. And that's exactly right.
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And he is has changed and it was a great
point by Dominic. He's changed like that, not just the
culture but the way people look at the program. And
he is now got good players, but he is directly
responsible and Tilman Fertita in that group's belief in what
this guy's about. You, you've got a guy who literally
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basketball while important. The life lessons from winning and losing basketball,
I can guarantee you are more important than coach Sampson. Now,
what's employee wants to win a national champ for the
But you know when the coaches it's for the kids,
and he's really thinking, no, it's for my pay race.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
It ain't that ain't who this is.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, And I rarely when we're talking about a game
and I sent a mess say good luck tonight, coach,
is any thanks Sean? Rarely do I get a message
back that says I always get one, But do I
ever get a message back that says, Yeah, I can't
believe I'm in this situation. Boy, what a road it's been.
It's I'm so happy for my kids. Man, this is
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a different, unique group. He's always got something.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
It's not generic every it's it's it's really uncanny. And
you got to be cut a different cat to do
what he's done. And this dude has immersed himself into
this program as if his family's life and his kids,
and he considers those kids his family depends on it,
and it's basketball, but it's it's it's bigger.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Than that for him.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And I love him and every year I'll root for him,
but you can don't. Don't tell me this dude's not
one of the best coaches in the country for a
lot of different reasons.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
There's no better example. Senior Night this year, Juwan Roberts
just finishing up his sixth season there in the program,
and you saw Kelvin Sampson just how overcome with emotion
you was. Because Joseph d'Arte, when I talked with him
about it, brought up a great point. He goes, Kelvin's
been here eleven years and Juwan's been here six So yeah,
there's a lot of emotion there there. Now there's there's
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a lot of you know, you're taking a guy that
you know, you're you're trying to make into somewhat of
a contributing player who then becomes really a cornerstone for
your organization. And it's kind of a this is this
is finally over. You're you're finally moving on. It's like,
you know, there there's happiness for your kids to move
on and go live their own life, but there's also
a they're not that little kid anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I want you to think for a second, up and
down this state, or east and west in this state,
north southeast, everywhere, high school college pro of not just
who's got a ring on their finger, of everything that
encounters coaching young men or women in sports. Fair enough,
think about this for one second, and I want you
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and listen. If I tell you that we've got some
pretty you know, good baseballs the Shlasnagels baseball coach, You're
gonna say, absolutely, right, good, good baseball coach.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
But there's a lot the games wins, right, yeah, yeah, wins.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
If I say that Steve Sarkisian is a good coach
and ut loves and you say.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, good coach seems like a My point is, I'm
talking about.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Guy coach, impact on players, all the things that are
encompassed by being a leader. I say it every year
and until somebody proves me different, I want you to
show me. And this is no disrespect to the great
Joe spot as good manager's still in the infancy, Dusty
Baker was did a phenomenal job here. You take Willie Fritz,
I think is going to do great things here and
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has done a great did a great job to Lane
and in his coaching career. I mean, look at Emi Udoko,
who's still on the rise in his career or before him.
I don't care who it is. Go to all the universities,
all the high schools, and some of the best coaches
in the planet are going to be high school coaches
on male female, Baylor's head basketball coach.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Major impactful.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I mean, he's think about coach drews Now I've been
there on what here's almost something. Yeah, I think about
what he's done for a program that was reeling after
what had happened. Right, that's exactly right. So you go
all around from the when Michael Leach was coaching at
Texas Tech.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
There knew all of it. There is no better coach.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And I've said it along Kelvin Sampson in a huge
state with great high school, college and pro there is
no better all encompassing coach on everything that that job requires.
He doesn't need it at this at his age, he's
not I'm not saying he's older, but he is.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
He doesn't need that.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
He may need it for a soul for helping players,
but Kevin Sampson is accomplished enough, he's a Hall of Famer,
but he loves these kids and it drives him. There's
no better coach in this country. I mean in this state. Now,
I can I make the argument it's sport that it's
him and is oh and a handful of guys that
are in the same class. There's no better coach at
any level in this state. This is the best coach
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all around for his impact in this state. And I
say that I don't I say without hesitation, and that's
a hell of a competition we got going on in
this state.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Well.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
And the standard too is already there on campus because
I'm at the Willie Fritz Press conference last year and
I think it was Toeman Fertita that said it of basically,
we want to find another Kelvin Samson.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Damn right, and it'll raise and WILLI Fritz was wasn't
born yesterday. He knows had a coach. But in that building,
like a good player permeates to the building, the other
coaches raise their game because it's like every damn year,
it doesn't matter. They're playing at a level that we
all need to play at and they're keeping people in there.
You know, I mean, hell, nil is going to raise
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at University Houston. You want to know why Kelvin Samson. That's
exactly right, and it will raise not just for his people,
his group, meaning basketball throughout the program because of him.
This is I will make the argument. You know, you
have to have a guy like John McClain, Warren Moon
to Hall of Fame guy that it's given there, you know,
it's pine and form and tell them why they belong
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in and John's done a great job of that. I
could go around this country and if if we need
that battle, I can pound the table for Kelvin Samps.
I don't even need to pound it hard. There's very
few that would disagree that This is as good, if
not the best coach at any level in this state
of Texas, which puts him in rarefied air in his
business across the country.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And it's funny too.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
His coaches show at jbar M the topic of nil
came up and he looked out to the crowd and goes,
he do we want to keep winning around here? We
want to keep doing this And he went the other way.
He goes, I think we remember what the old times were.
We don't want the old times again. And he's just
as transparent as it gets.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And the truth of matters, well, Kelvin may not love
everything that goes with the money, because that's not how
he operates. He also knows the rules say in order
to keep up. I mean, the rules are set. You
can beat him or join him. And if you don't,
and now look destination spot. And that's directly responsible for
the dude who's the head basketball coach at the University
of Houston. Legend already in my mind to Hall of Famer.
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You don't have to be great to have a ring
on your finger. But I'm telling you the validation maybe
for others, and you want it, and I hope he
gets it. That dude's that dude knows that the destination
is important. I'm sure it's it's the that dude's journey.
And he said he knows what rock Bottom looks like,
which I think has also helped him at this stage
of his career. I love him, and then you can't
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convince me otherwise I will fistfight for Kelvin Sampson.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
He lives in reality.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
He's one of those that's the saying, don't worry about
how you want things to be, just worry about the
way they are. And that's the reality of college sports,
whether you like it or not.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Imagine being the GM now like Andrew Lucky is for Stanford,
is being the GM at University of Houston, and that's
that's who you get to deal with, and coach Fritz
and him that that get it, you know, on the
rest of the program. But just using those two as
an example, you're like, yeah, it's pretty easy GM job.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
You know, the expectations are pretty self explanatory.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Ain't that hard?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I can handle this, gig man, because I know what
the expectations are. Get whatever you need to get done,
prioritize and win and make an impact on these kids
that give you a chance to make an impact, and
by gosh that Kelvin Sampson does well.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
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