February 3, 2025 • 14 mins
Over the course of what many would say was a 'boring' weekend in the sports world, shocking news broke late Saturday night in regards to the NBA. Roughly Saturday night news broke that the Dallas Mavericks in a blockbuster trade are sending Luka Doncic, Max Kleber, and Markieff Morris to the Los Angeles Lakers in exchange for a 2029 first-round pick, Max Christie and ten time NBA All-Star Anthony Davis. With the trade deadline approaching this Thursday, this trade has taken the media by storm since. Unexpected as it was, lots of opinions and questions have derived on rather the trade will work, if the trade was a good one and so forth but furthermore, lots of fans are confused as to why the swap between the two dominant stars in the middle of the season. Catching everyone off guard over the weekend, Sean and Brian take a moment discussing the blockbuster trade from the weekend and the potential of what it could pan out to look like here in the coming weeks along with the question posed to listeners, has the NBA really become desperate for viewership and ratings now?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saulsbury. Okay, let's do this. Sewn Salisbury.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
To usc truth, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury, Brian Lima, go lobos.
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Radio or excuse me, super Bowl I'm thinking a radio row.
Super Bowl Week is upon us, and my goodness, one
of the dumbest trades in NBA history happened over the weekend.
Your Rockets are gonna be without Fred van Vliet and
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alprin Shin going.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
They take on the Knicks tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Six point thirty is the tip off five thirty launch
batter right here on seveninety Sean triple.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Good morning, super Bowl week is here?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Good morning, good morning, good morning. What's up? And uh wow?
What a trade over the weekend? Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
To me, it's I don't understand why I was thinking
about injuries. Do you guys realize, as I digress, that
Joel Ebiad's missed four hundred plus games and and and
played in four hundred plus games.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, that guy's brittle. Yeah, yeah, you think he's a
Hall of Famer right now?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Exactly? No, I digress. Let me get to the other
guy who's brittle. Here's the thing you're trading a fat
guy for an injured guy. That's basically what it comes down.
Talented fat guy and talented injured guy. Matter of fact,
both of them every year and I met with a
pH though, by the way, with with Luca, Listen, both
of them can win the MVP every year. That's how
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talented both of them are. That goes without saying. And
it's rare that you can get a guy smoke a
cigarette and drink SODA's and get big and still hanging
thirty plus on.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
You knocked out a couple of stover what's wrong with it?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Right?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
And Anthony Davis is was we know, supremely gifted. The
problem is in the Davis. I don't know what the
Dallas Matt Bricks are thinking. First off, the injuries constant,
you're not gonna get my when Davis plays, you'll get plenty.
That's a that's a win. And an if I was
just shocked by the return for Dallas, what are you
settling for?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, didn't do.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I mean no, no, Luca is gonna you get the
better player in Luca More Anthony Davis is his talent.
That is any big men we ever have the problem
is we don't get to see enough of it. But
I don't understand. And I know he took less money
and rearrange some salary stuff for the for the Mavericks,
but you know, maybe they both felt that they were
in you know, stuck in neutral and they needed a change.
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But one first round pick and return in a player
or so, and then you get Luca and I just
I thought the trade was odd.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I think Dallas got a tad bit fleecet.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
If you told me Anthony Davis gonna play eighty games,
seventy eight games, I'd say cool. Hell, if you told
me he's gonna play sixty, I'd be okay. And Lucas
so both of them got tired. One guy's always injured.
The other guy, they questioned if he's in shape and
what the commitment is man for guys that are hurting
in a little out of shape to say the least, still.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Pretty damn talented, right, So I I just.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Like I said on Twitter, Yes, I said, Anthony Davis
probably pulled a hamstring when he heard about the trade.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Okay, So I don't listen.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It was it was a bit weird to know what
dearon Fox and Zach Lavine involved in a trade as well.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
To the San Antonio just finished twelfth in the West.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Nice and now put him in wem and Yama together.
That's a pretty damn good build up there. I mean,
you got two really good players. So I just in
the case of the Mavericks and the Lakers, you know
what it does to me, absolutely nothing. Lakers may get
better when Anthony Dave's on the floor, they'll be pretty good.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Neither one of them are winning.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
An NBA championship this year, so there you go.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
No, I thought it was one of the excuse me,
dumbest trades I have ever seen in all of sports.
Chasing Kidd didn't even know about it until the deal
was finalized. It was reportedly it was reported that Lebron
James didn't know about it. He found out when he
was at a late dinner with his family, which I
call BS. Sham Sharani is the one that broke the news.
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He's also represented by the same agency that Lebron James is,
so you know that there was some communication there. But
just the fact that you traded a prime Luca don Chitz,
he's twenty five years old and he drops, I don't know,
thirty five nine and five for you every night, and
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you traded him for Anthony Davis, who's built like glass.
How much do the Mavericks hate Luka Datchet?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
So put it this way, Anthony Davis is gonna play
the same amount of games as the points Luca averages. Yes, yeah,
he gonna you know, he'll have itge thirty points a game.
You'll get about forty games from Anthony Davis. We got
to put him in Joe l Embiid in a boxing
match and only do minute rounds since they neither one
of them would last three minutes.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
See what I did there wouldn't even make it past
the damn Wayne there you go. So to me, I
feel like it's a uh.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
It feels so And with Luca's age too, I don't know,
as you mentioned, it feels like Luca has been in
League like twenty years, but he didn't play like it.
And he's his best part of his career still in
front of if he, you know, takes it serious and
does it. I don't know how many more games a
year you're gonna get out Anthony Davis.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
But it just it was. It was.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
It tells you both of them wanted to part with
those two dudes. Yeah badly, Yeah, but this.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Was this wasn't even I didn't even hear the rumor
of this until the trade was done.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
No one did.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I never like, there was no buzz about it, at
least on the end and the overall national scope of things.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Nobody talking about it. Nobody talked about it.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Don't you heard?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You know, Darren Fox was gonna move right, But man,
what a weird, weird trade that nobody saw coming. But
it just tells you that neither one of them felt
they could go where they wanted with the guys they
had Nico Harris in the GM for the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yep. Uh. He even said in the press conference yesterday
that he figures ten years from now, he said, yeah,
they'll they'll probably bury me because he knows, like so,
so that shows me what the hell happened? What happened?
If you know that it's a dumb ass trade, what happened?
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Who's pushing this? Who hates uh? Luca?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And you know what?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
It started in the what was it the finals last
year when Dallas wanted to get to the finals. Did
you see you ever see that video of Luca in
the hallway? Kind of hanging out celebrating a bit, and
he had the beer in his hand and a guy
comes up and yanks it out of his hand. Yeah,
is that that's not Nico Harrison, is it?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I don't remember. It's somebody with the Dallas Mavericks. They
took that damn beer right out of his hands. That's
where it started. We should have known what It just
absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
And you imagine little things like that being the reason,
the under the undertone of what happens in a trade
of why.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I just it's it's so crazy to me, man, Like,
it's just this is the dumbest trade I think in
all of sports. And we've had some dumb ones over
the last couple of years. DeAndre Hopkins when he was
traded for an apple in a roadmap and David Johnson
that was one. I thought that was one of the
dumbest ones. This one is is at the top for me.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Brutal. It is just terrible, man.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah. Man, the rhyme or reason is what is baffling
to me? Does that make sense? Yeah? I just yeah,
you can't find rhyme or reason and it's and this
is it's like all of the the insiders, NBA insiders,
all of them, every single one of them called it
either the UH called it malpractice, called it shocking, dumb. However,
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whatever adjective you describe, one of the worst trades in
all of sports. And if this is purely from Nico
Harrison's standpoint, somebody obviously had to had to approve it.
This is the same guy in Nico Harrison that botched
the Stephen Curry and Nike deal during his work when
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when Nico Harrison was at Nike, he botched the twenty
thirteen presentation of Steph Curry where according to Harrison, he
may have called him Seth and the presentation used was
was made for Kevin Durant. So that's why Steph Curry
went over to under armour.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, yeah, they don't pronounce your name right. Want to
pay you? Now? Why is why is the GM a
former Nike exec because he dealt with the guys on
the other end. I guess it's some of the some
of the gigs. People get that you say, And if
you ever wondered if it was about relationships as opposed
to who'd been it's it. That's exactly what it is.
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Or somebody hiring their buddies. I don't know anything about
the guy before this. He may be a great basketball guy,
I don't anything about it. And I know you're around
player people when you represent, but you might want to
get names right. Yeah, that could be a problem or
you lose big time clients. And that would have been
a big time client when the last names Curry. Okay, yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
As far as Lebron James is concerned, don't you dare
not You don't ever ever try to tell me that
he is the greatest of all time compared to Jordan Ever,
Ray Allen, Chris Bosh, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis,
Dwayne Wade.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You want me to go on?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Oh, by the way, now he's got Luka Doncic as
his teammates. But people bitched about Jordan having Scottie Pippen,
Luke Longley Lebron's but I got them at the end
of their prime though. No, Dwayne Wade was towards the
end of his career.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Stop that. No, Dwayne Wade running won a ring and retired.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Stop it, yes, stop it won back to back in shot, dude, No,
they were done. No, Dwayne Wade was towards the end
of Chris Bosh down to Miami to play with Lebron,
James and Dwayne Brian. Yes, no he was not.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
My whole point is it is Dwayne Wain, a Hall
of Famer.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yes, okay, that's another Hall of Famer that Lebron is
playing with.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
How many Hall of famers did Jordan play next to?
Not very many? How many?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Well right now the Dennis is Dennis Robin the Hall
of Fame. Now he played next to one one exactly,
Scotty Pippen.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
That's it. That is the conversation. Excuse sorry, that is
the conversation.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Well, here's what I do know. Lebron has never won
a championship. But but then again, I can say that
before going to lebron is now is never one. Now
he's taken member. When he first got to Cleveland and
carried them on his back, they just didn't win it second.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Time around when they went it with Kyrie Irving.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
You remember when he got him, I think, got him
to the finals and they left to win won championships elsewhere.
He's never won one, but Jordan has a won one
without Pippins, So there is I get the argument. I
do get the argument of uh, there's no argument to
me who the best of all time is, although it
makes for a great discussion. I think Lebron James is
the biggest beast we've ever had playing pro basketball. You know,
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the guy is a phenomenal specimen and a great player.
To me, the difference is ones refusal to lose and
the other on Jordan would cut your heart out and
serve it on a platter and watch you eat it
and put his foot on your throat while you were dying.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
That's part of the DNA.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I think Lebron's missing a little bit of But as
far as skill set goes, I mean it's back and forth,
both of them one two and Abdul Jabbar. You know
those are the guys, right. Yeah. That being said, when
we said, well he never won a championship without it,
well one didn't want without Pippen. But you're right everywhere.
Put it this way, Jordan didn't free agent around and
(11:35):
build a dream team. Yeah that's Lebron's been able to
build dream teams, but they Jordan didn't win one when
he was with the Wizards. So there's an argument there.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
But the is the argument Lebron versus Jordan, Or is
the argument is that what we're arguing now are arguing
that both of them have won championships and one won
it with Pippen and he's won.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
It with all kinds of Hall of famers. What's the
argument here?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Argument is everyone always talks about this, this Lebron versus Jordan, right,
comparing the two.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I think arguably Lebron James is the greatest.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
But when it comes to every stop that Lebron has
been to, he always does this, all right? If he
always has to go get a star player to pair
him up with, well, Kevin Durants done the same thing. Yeah,
I agree.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I think in a time when you're allowed to, why
wouldn't you It's like the Dodgers if if you're allowed to,
why wouldn't I get what you're saying one hundred percent?
See it may be arguable, but you want to end
the conversation. Here's all I'll ask you. This will answer it.
When the game is on the line and it is
a situation, a life or death situation. If you had
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to put your life on the line for a fourth quarter,
no matter who the guy's Dwayne Wade with Jordan, Scottie
Pippen with Lebron, Kyrie Irving with Lebron, uh, Anthony Davis
when he's healthy with Jordan, I don't care who it is,
Chris Bosh, you know, Deray Allen whatever. Even though Davis
is won a championship with Lebron. Other than was he
there during the strike? He was there during the COVID year, right, yeah, yes,
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when they went when they went right other I'm talking
about a full season take give him a mix and
match the players. Your life's on the line and it's
tied going into the fourth quarter. Who do you want
with the ball? Who's gonna Who are you betting that's
gonna win? That they're gonna win?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
If they played each other, I would give you in
their prime, give me.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Michael Jordan first, and then Kobe Bryant second.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Okay, I'm talking about between Lebron and between Lebron and Jordan.
Give me Michael Jordan's okay, Well, then there's your answer
who you want more of?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Because is it who can score thirty in the final
quarter in a regular season game twenty there's a bunch
of Steph Curry does that? Or is it the guy
that you want that can score, take the game over,
has guts, will do anything and everything.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Jordan's gonna win that most of the time. So that's
where the argument quits.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, if you're talking about skill set and talent, and
both of them champions, and I get why some like
one better than the other, and some would say one
is a little more difficult to play and then the other.
There's an argument for both, but I will.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Tell you that both of them in one way or another.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
And you can mix Kobe in there, and Larry Bird
and a few others, Abdul Jabbar have done something to
change the way the game's played. And I can tell
you this, very few can do what Lebron does at
his age. But Lebron's still in my mind, if my
life's on the line, I'm betting Jordan, not Lebron.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
No pun intended, and what he's able to do now
now in this part of his career is insane. Sure
it is.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
It's good, it's it's but we're not going to bury
the lead. The Davis Dantis trade was weird and odd,
and neither one of them will have a ring on
their finger when this year is over.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
It doesn't make sense, man, just doesn't make sense. Get
to break right here on seven ninety
Saulsbury. Okay, let's do this. Sewn Salisbury.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
To usc truth, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury, Brian Lima, go lobos.
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Radio or excuse me, super Bowl I'm thinking a radio row.
Super Bowl Week is upon us, and my goodness, one
of the dumbest trades in NBA history happened over the weekend.
Your Rockets are gonna be without Fred van Vliet and
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alprin Shin going.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
They take on the Knicks tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Six point thirty is the tip off five thirty launch
batter right here on seveninety Sean triple.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Good morning, super Bowl week is here?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Good morning, good morning, good morning. What's up? And uh wow?
What a trade over the weekend? Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
To me, it's I don't understand why I was thinking
about injuries. Do you guys realize, as I digress, that
Joel Ebiad's missed four hundred plus games and and and
played in four hundred plus games.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, that guy's brittle. Yeah, yeah, you think he's a
Hall of Famer right now?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Exactly? No, I digress. Let me get to the other
guy who's brittle. Here's the thing you're trading a fat
guy for an injured guy. That's basically what it comes down.
Talented fat guy and talented injured guy. Matter of fact,
both of them every year and I met with a
pH though, by the way, with with Luca, Listen, both
of them can win the MVP every year. That's how
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talented both of them are. That goes without saying. And
it's rare that you can get a guy smoke a
cigarette and drink SODA's and get big and still hanging
thirty plus on.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
You knocked out a couple of stover what's wrong with it?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Right?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
And Anthony Davis is was we know, supremely gifted. The
problem is in the Davis. I don't know what the
Dallas Matt Bricks are thinking. First off, the injuries constant,
you're not gonna get my when Davis plays, you'll get plenty.
That's a that's a win. And an if I was
just shocked by the return for Dallas, what are you
settling for?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, didn't do.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I mean no, no, Luca is gonna you get the
better player in Luca More Anthony Davis is his talent.
That is any big men we ever have the problem
is we don't get to see enough of it. But
I don't understand. And I know he took less money
and rearrange some salary stuff for the for the Mavericks,
but you know, maybe they both felt that they were
in you know, stuck in neutral and they needed a change.
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But one first round pick and return in a player
or so, and then you get Luca and I just
I thought the trade was odd.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I think Dallas got a tad bit fleecet.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
If you told me Anthony Davis gonna play eighty games,
seventy eight games, I'd say cool. Hell, if you told
me he's gonna play sixty, I'd be okay. And Lucas
so both of them got tired. One guy's always injured.
The other guy, they questioned if he's in shape and
what the commitment is man for guys that are hurting
in a little out of shape to say the least, still.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Pretty damn talented, right, So I I just.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Like I said on Twitter, Yes, I said, Anthony Davis
probably pulled a hamstring when he heard about the trade.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Okay, So I don't listen.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It was it was a bit weird to know what
dearon Fox and Zach Lavine involved in a trade as well.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
To the San Antonio just finished twelfth in the West.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Nice and now put him in wem and Yama together.
That's a pretty damn good build up there. I mean,
you got two really good players. So I just in
the case of the Mavericks and the Lakers, you know
what it does to me, absolutely nothing. Lakers may get
better when Anthony Dave's on the floor, they'll be pretty good.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Neither one of them are winning.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
An NBA championship this year, so there you go.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
No, I thought it was one of the excuse me,
dumbest trades I have ever seen in all of sports.
Chasing Kidd didn't even know about it until the deal
was finalized. It was reportedly it was reported that Lebron
James didn't know about it. He found out when he
was at a late dinner with his family, which I
call BS. Sham Sharani is the one that broke the news.
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He's also represented by the same agency that Lebron James is,
so you know that there was some communication there. But
just the fact that you traded a prime Luca don Chitz,
he's twenty five years old and he drops, I don't know,
thirty five nine and five for you every night, and
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you traded him for Anthony Davis, who's built like glass.
How much do the Mavericks hate Luka Datchet?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
So put it this way, Anthony Davis is gonna play
the same amount of games as the points Luca averages. Yes, yeah,
he gonna you know, he'll have itge thirty points a game.
You'll get about forty games from Anthony Davis. We got
to put him in Joe l Embiid in a boxing
match and only do minute rounds since they neither one
of them would last three minutes.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
See what I did there wouldn't even make it past
the damn Wayne there you go. So to me, I
feel like it's a uh.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
It feels so And with Luca's age too, I don't know,
as you mentioned, it feels like Luca has been in
League like twenty years, but he didn't play like it.
And he's his best part of his career still in
front of if he, you know, takes it serious and
does it. I don't know how many more games a
year you're gonna get out Anthony Davis.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
But it just it was. It was.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
It tells you both of them wanted to part with
those two dudes. Yeah badly, Yeah, but this.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Was this wasn't even I didn't even hear the rumor
of this until the trade was done.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
No one did.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I never like, there was no buzz about it, at
least on the end and the overall national scope of things.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Nobody talking about it. Nobody talked about it.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Don't you heard?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You know, Darren Fox was gonna move right, But man,
what a weird, weird trade that nobody saw coming. But
it just tells you that neither one of them felt
they could go where they wanted with the guys they
had Nico Harris in the GM for the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yep. Uh. He even said in the press conference yesterday
that he figures ten years from now, he said, yeah,
they'll they'll probably bury me because he knows, like so,
so that shows me what the hell happened? What happened?
If you know that it's a dumb ass trade, what happened?
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Who's pushing this? Who hates uh? Luca?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And you know what?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
It started in the what was it the finals last
year when Dallas wanted to get to the finals. Did
you see you ever see that video of Luca in
the hallway? Kind of hanging out celebrating a bit, and
he had the beer in his hand and a guy
comes up and yanks it out of his hand. Yeah,
is that that's not Nico Harrison, is it?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I don't remember. It's somebody with the Dallas Mavericks. They
took that damn beer right out of his hands. That's
where it started. We should have known what It just
absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
And you imagine little things like that being the reason,
the under the undertone of what happens in a trade
of why.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I just it's it's so crazy to me, man, Like,
it's just this is the dumbest trade I think in
all of sports. And we've had some dumb ones over
the last couple of years. DeAndre Hopkins when he was
traded for an apple in a roadmap and David Johnson
that was one. I thought that was one of the
dumbest ones. This one is is at the top for me.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Brutal. It is just terrible, man.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah. Man, the rhyme or reason is what is baffling
to me? Does that make sense? Yeah? I just yeah,
you can't find rhyme or reason and it's and this
is it's like all of the the insiders, NBA insiders,
all of them, every single one of them called it
either the UH called it malpractice, called it shocking, dumb. However,
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whatever adjective you describe, one of the worst trades in
all of sports. And if this is purely from Nico
Harrison's standpoint, somebody obviously had to had to approve it.
This is the same guy in Nico Harrison that botched
the Stephen Curry and Nike deal during his work when
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when Nico Harrison was at Nike, he botched the twenty
thirteen presentation of Steph Curry where according to Harrison, he
may have called him Seth and the presentation used was
was made for Kevin Durant. So that's why Steph Curry
went over to under armour.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, yeah, they don't pronounce your name right. Want to
pay you? Now? Why is why is the GM a
former Nike exec because he dealt with the guys on
the other end. I guess it's some of the some
of the gigs. People get that you say, And if
you ever wondered if it was about relationships as opposed
to who'd been it's it. That's exactly what it is.
(08:45):
Or somebody hiring their buddies. I don't know anything about
the guy before this. He may be a great basketball guy,
I don't anything about it. And I know you're around
player people when you represent, but you might want to
get names right. Yeah, that could be a problem or
you lose big time clients. And that would have been
a big time client when the last names Curry. Okay, yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
As far as Lebron James is concerned, don't you dare
not You don't ever ever try to tell me that
he is the greatest of all time compared to Jordan Ever,
Ray Allen, Chris Bosh, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis,
Dwayne Wade.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You want me to go on?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Oh, by the way, now he's got Luka Doncic as
his teammates. But people bitched about Jordan having Scottie Pippen,
Luke Longley Lebron's but I got them at the end
of their prime though. No, Dwayne Wade was towards the
end of his career.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Stop that. No, Dwayne Wade running won a ring and retired.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Stop it, yes, stop it won back to back in shot, dude, No,
they were done. No, Dwayne Wade was towards the end
of Chris Bosh down to Miami to play with Lebron,
James and Dwayne Brian. Yes, no he was not.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
My whole point is it is Dwayne Wain, a Hall
of Famer.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yes, okay, that's another Hall of Famer that Lebron is
playing with.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
How many Hall of famers did Jordan play next to?
Not very many? How many?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Well right now the Dennis is Dennis Robin the Hall
of Fame. Now he played next to one one exactly,
Scotty Pippen.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
That's it. That is the conversation. Excuse sorry, that is
the conversation.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Well, here's what I do know. Lebron has never won
a championship. But but then again, I can say that
before going to lebron is now is never one. Now
he's taken member. When he first got to Cleveland and
carried them on his back, they just didn't win it second.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Time around when they went it with Kyrie Irving.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
You remember when he got him, I think, got him
to the finals and they left to win won championships elsewhere.
He's never won one, but Jordan has a won one
without Pippins, So there is I get the argument. I
do get the argument of uh, there's no argument to
me who the best of all time is, although it
makes for a great discussion. I think Lebron James is
the biggest beast we've ever had playing pro basketball. You know,
(11:00):
the guy is a phenomenal specimen and a great player.
To me, the difference is ones refusal to lose and
the other on Jordan would cut your heart out and
serve it on a platter and watch you eat it
and put his foot on your throat while you were dying.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
That's part of the DNA.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I think Lebron's missing a little bit of But as
far as skill set goes, I mean it's back and forth,
both of them one two and Abdul Jabbar. You know
those are the guys, right. Yeah. That being said, when
we said, well he never won a championship without it,
well one didn't want without Pippen. But you're right everywhere.
Put it this way, Jordan didn't free agent around and
(11:35):
build a dream team. Yeah that's Lebron's been able to
build dream teams, but they Jordan didn't win one when
he was with the Wizards. So there's an argument there.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
But the is the argument Lebron versus Jordan, Or is
the argument is that what we're arguing now are arguing
that both of them have won championships and one won
it with Pippen and he's won.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
It with all kinds of Hall of famers. What's the
argument here?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Argument is everyone always talks about this, this Lebron versus Jordan, right,
comparing the two.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I think arguably Lebron James is the greatest.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
But when it comes to every stop that Lebron has
been to, he always does this, all right? If he
always has to go get a star player to pair
him up with, well, Kevin Durants done the same thing. Yeah,
I agree.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I think in a time when you're allowed to, why
wouldn't you It's like the Dodgers if if you're allowed to,
why wouldn't I get what you're saying one hundred percent?
See it may be arguable, but you want to end
the conversation. Here's all I'll ask you. This will answer it.
When the game is on the line and it is
a situation, a life or death situation. If you had
(12:43):
to put your life on the line for a fourth quarter,
no matter who the guy's Dwayne Wade with Jordan, Scottie
Pippen with Lebron, Kyrie Irving with Lebron, uh, Anthony Davis
when he's healthy with Jordan, I don't care who it is,
Chris Bosh, you know, Deray Allen whatever. Even though Davis
is won a championship with Lebron. Other than was he
there during the strike? He was there during the COVID year, right, yeah, yes,
(13:07):
when they went when they went right other I'm talking
about a full season take give him a mix and
match the players. Your life's on the line and it's
tied going into the fourth quarter. Who do you want
with the ball? Who's gonna Who are you betting that's
gonna win? That they're gonna win?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
If they played each other, I would give you in
their prime, give me.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Michael Jordan first, and then Kobe Bryant second.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Okay, I'm talking about between Lebron and between Lebron and Jordan.
Give me Michael Jordan's okay, Well, then there's your answer
who you want more of?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Because is it who can score thirty in the final
quarter in a regular season game twenty there's a bunch
of Steph Curry does that? Or is it the guy
that you want that can score, take the game over,
has guts, will do anything and everything.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Jordan's gonna win that most of the time. So that's
where the argument quits.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, if you're talking about skill set and talent, and
both of them champions, and I get why some like
one better than the other, and some would say one
is a little more difficult to play and then the other.
There's an argument for both, but I will.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Tell you that both of them in one way or another.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
And you can mix Kobe in there, and Larry Bird
and a few others, Abdul Jabbar have done something to
change the way the game's played. And I can tell
you this, very few can do what Lebron does at
his age. But Lebron's still in my mind, if my
life's on the line, I'm betting Jordan, not Lebron.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
No pun intended, and what he's able to do now
now in this part of his career is insane. Sure
it is.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
It's good, it's it's but we're not going to bury
the lead. The Davis Dantis trade was weird and odd,
and neither one of them will have a ring on
their finger when this year is over.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
It doesn't make sense, man, just doesn't make sense. Get
to break right here on seven ninety
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