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May 21, 2025 13 mins
Rolling into Game 3 today the Rays have now split the series even 1-1, following yesterdays late rally in the bottom of the ninth with Taylor Walls sacrifice fly to left-field resulting in a final of 3-2. With Brandon Walter on the mound in his first start of the season for the Astros, he goes on to pitch 5 shutout innings with 5 strikeouts, and only allowing 3 hits in an outstanding start. Falling short at the very end, Dan and Ari take a moment assessing a few struggles the Astros recently have shown and what adjustments must be made moving forward. 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yep, that's how it goes.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Last night, the Astros put up too early, they are
unable to be able to do anything more than that,
and they lose it. As you just heard Robert Ford
tell you three to two to drop the second game
of this series. And with all that we say away
we go here on the Sean Salisbury Show, second straight morning,

(00:22):
My good buddy, KPRC two's Ari Alexander hanging out with
us as the Astros last night. As I mentioned, I mean,
you get a couple of runs early there, but that
wasn't necessarily the main storyline. I mean, let me just
go ahead and ask it this way, Ari, if I
tell you Brandon Walter yesterday five innings scoreless, what are

(00:43):
we saying after that game?

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yeah, you think that Brandon Walter helped deliver and steal
a win for you, because nobody is expecting Brandon Walter
to go out and give you five scoreless innings on
eighty pitches.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Exactly, and he goes out there. It does that.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
But I mean, I talked about it last night on
the Tenth Inning Show. It's just I understand there's no
yord On. You don't have Yaner Diaz. Yesterday because of
a scheduled day off. Jose L Twove does get a
couple of hits, but it's yet again, it's another one
of these day after shows where we're saying those guys

(01:18):
did not do enough, the bats did not do enough.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
This lineup is just so inconsistent and something that's been
going on with the Astros for the past couple of years.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
The halcyon days of the.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Twenty nineteen lineup and looking at that and going, oh
my god, where is there a break for a pitcher
that's gone. They're gonna have to find and pick their spots.
This is a completely new team. The length of this
lineup can be in question sometimes, and they did not
come up with the couch hits, and there are some
nights they do and there are some nights they don't.
The Rays always have sort of interesting relief pitching. They're

(01:50):
one of these teams and organizations like the Astros that
are really good at getting guys out of nowhere. Like
nobody knows who Edwin Ucette is, and he's been one
of the best relievers in baseball. Last year he was incredible.
That they just find these guys out of nowhere. The
Astros are good at it two. But this is a
game that you could have won. And I'm not necessarily

(02:10):
going to blame the b bullpen for this, but you
can hit more than this against the Rays.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
You should be able to. I mean, you mentioned it
that Zach Lettel goes. I mean this is also to
a Rays just pitching staff across the board. For as
good as you mentioned some of those guys are, they
are the textbook definition of mid They are a three
eight eight er at least coming into the yesterday's game.
They're right in the middle of the league, fifteenth in

(02:37):
overall team er and you can only manage six runs
against them in the first two games. Again, the lineup,
We've said it numerous times. Sometimes they do enough and
nights like last night, they don't do enough.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
A lot of the times they do just enough, and
that's something where there aren't that many games, especially recently.
Last year is a good example of this. They don't
break out that often. There isn't that big five, six,
seven run inning. It's happened recently once or twice, but
it doesn't happen all that much. And then you look
around the league at these different teams, especially in the

(03:11):
National League, there's such a difference between the National League
and the American League. Right now, the Yankees are good
most of the time, the Tigers are really good this year,
and then what in the American League. That's why Astros
fans shouldn't necessarily be panicked, because anybody can win the AL.
Nobody is that scary in the AL. Yeah, the Tigers

(03:32):
look pretty good. The Yankees are whatever they are. They
have the talent to win the American League, clearly, but
that's it. There's no one else that is scary. Then
you get to the World Series. You got the Dodgers,
you got the Phillies, the Mets, the Braves, you have
the Diamondbacks look really good, you have the Padres look
really good, and then randomly the Cardinals are somehow playing
pretty well and the Cubs are sort of decent this year.

(03:54):
So you have a number of teams where you look
down the league and the Diamondbacks can blowed for seven runs,
you know, the Dodgers can explode for seven runs.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
The Asters just don't do it enough. No, they don't.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
And that's something that we just continuously are waiting for
with this team. And I mean there's individual performances too,
that you can point to not just this game, but
just overall that. Obviously we'll get into as the show
moves along, which by the way, to Wednesdays, that means
Dana Brown, nine thirty joins us, and we'll get into
not only the current guys that are healthy, but also

(04:29):
do want to try to get an update on yourd
on maybe even I mean, you know, pitching wise, we
were just talking about it. Spencer Arraghetty, what's next for
him soon enough? Hopefully get forced Whitley back in which
I would probably if I were going to put a
wager on it, have to guess that he's activated tomorrow
that I think you have him for that Mariners series

(04:50):
and you mentioned it too. You go at the b
bullpen last night, Sean Dubin gives you a couple of
good innings, a couple of walks in there, but still
able to give you scoreless relief. And Steven, I mean, dude,
I threw this out on Twitter as soon as it happened.
Nothing makes my blood boil than an O two count
and you hit a guy like nothing makes me like

(05:12):
more enraged than that, which.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Steven Okert's been incredible so far this season he's one
of those guys that that's a find, right Like, he's
a guy that has had success in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
He had a down year last year.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
There's a reason that he was available for basically nothing
this offseason, and then they tweaked and figured out what
it is that they can do to make him effective.
And he's been really good to start the year. But
that is what happens when you are using your b bullpen.
That is what happens when half your bullpen is guys
that you have claimed off waivers or signed off the street.

(05:44):
There is a wide range of outcomes, and sometimes that's
the outcome that a guy that's been really good all
year is going to have an off night. That even
you know Briana Breyu has off nights, but you know
that those off nights are few and far between with
Brian and Bray. You range comes is a little different
when it comes to the Steven Okertz, the Bennett Suss's,
the Sean Dubins and give credit to the Astros. Those

(06:07):
guys have been good most of the year. You can't
expect it all the time, and last night was one
of those nights.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
No, and I mean that's the thing is for you know,
me dinging him there in the initial I mean it's
also you have to remember he's got a two point
oh one ERA, so that shows you how good he's
been this year. But I mean last night was definitely
not one of those. He hits a batter, gives up
a base hit, then gives up a double steal after
he looked the guy back to second before he took off.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
It's like, if you have.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
An idea that he's going to go, then step off,
step off.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, there's It's something that's been troubling the Astros all
year is controlling the running game. And those are just
some of the little things that winning teams are better
at doing. And you know, we talk about the lineup,
but there are these small things that they can do
better at and relievers controlling the running game and this
isn't something that's on the cap. I mean, these catchers

(07:01):
that they have Yiiner Diaz, Victor Kartini and says our
Salas are even though he never gets in the game,
I don't know, does just give him one at bad
give my guy says, are a game a day. Their
pop times are great, they get up, they make the throw.
The pitchers are the ones that are struggling to control
the running game, and Killibort came in you saw immediately
like real quick slidestep on his first pitch.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Because Joe Spotamus has said.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Something now, I mean it's and it's something that at
times they've been able to do a better at but
not only trying to keep runners from taking the extra base,
but also you being able to take the extra base.
Although jose Al Twove does steal second last night, so
that was nice to see. But I mean that's been
one of the biggest achilles heels for this team is

(07:45):
both of those part of the game where you're like, Okay,
you can't throw guys out, and then you get thrown
out trying to steal a base. Like it's almost kind
of to a point where it's like, just stop trying
to take an extra base. Seriously, man, they should they
should keep trying to do it. I want them to
be as aggressive on the basis as possible because you
have some of the fastest guys in the league, guys

(08:05):
that you wouldn't even expect. Cam Smith is so fast
he gets on late in the game and then try
to steal you know Chaz, they try to have him
bunt over, and Chaz has got to do a better
job bunting than that. He's trying to like stab at
it high. I know he can bunt better, and I've
seen Chaz lay down sacrifice bunts before, So I don't
know why yesterday he decided to have one of the

(08:27):
worst bunting performances of his career because he's a guy
that can do it. But Cam can run and should
run more. Jeremy Payne, you can run and should run more.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
And they were really aggressive really early this year, like
the first few weeks of the season.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
It's like, whoa Pina's got three stolen bases.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Here we go, We're starting to get to the thirty
stolen base mark for a guy that's like the eighth
fastest guy in the league. And then you look at
Cam Smith's sprint speed and it's like and then you
asse him come around third on like a single off
a second, You're like, whoa Cam Smith can steal some
basses and whoa Jake Myers can steal some bases?

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Then do it? Run? I don't.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
I get a little bit because running is hard on
your body. But if sho Hao Tani, who is one
of the most valuable assets in the sport, who is huge.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
If you've ever.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Stood anywhere near sho Hao Tani, he is six three
to two twenty. He's a big, kind of lumbering guy
who looks like a monster on the baseball field. If
he can steal fifty bases, slide, put all that torque
trying to get off a first base and slide and
dive and do all that stuff and put all that
on his body.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
So can you.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, I mean, and you know, I know that you're
a big Proponent's on the twenty twenty watch for Jeremy
Peney this year. I'm thinking that it's it's very much
in play for him, and I mean, yeah, that would
feed into it.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
It should be.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
I mean, he he has the ability to steal thirty
and there's a reason that they talked about betting him
a car to steal fifty this year, because when you
are one of those fastest sprint speed guys. And I
know that he's been working on timing the reids off
the pitchers and that's where Kyle Tucker was so good,
because Kyle Tucker is not fast. Kyle Tucker is like
a twenty six point whatever sprint speed guy. So for

(10:15):
those of you at home who are not obsessive with
sprint speed, thirty is elite elite, twenty eight is really good.
PAYNYA is at twenty nine point I think six this
year is at twenty nine point eight last year, so
it's the average. And then there are bolts, which is
how many times you run, and it's higher than thirty
feet per seconds. That's what we're looking at numbers wise.

(10:37):
So if you can do thirty, you're the fastest guy
in the game. This is Bobby Witt that we're talking about,
is like a thirty guy, Trey Turner, those kind of guys.
Twenty nine is still insane, twenty eight is really good,
and then like twenty six, twenty seven is like you're
not a bad runner, and then everything below that is
like Martin Maldonado, right, So Payya' is like twenty nine
point eight. You have Cam Smith I think's like nine

(11:00):
to three. Myers is twenty eight something. Kyle Tucker was
twenty six to seven, and he's stealing thirty bases not
because he's fast, but because he has the ability to
read every little tick that a pitcher does, and he
does the preparation and that's something that Jeremy Penny, I know,
worked on because last year he worked on it in
the offseason before last year, and he didn't feel like

(11:21):
he was that good at it, something we'd have conversations about.
And then this year it felt like I'm getting better
at this, like I'm starting to figure out reads on pictures,
and early in the year it looked like he was
doing it, and I'm kind of trying to figure out
why isn't running more and why Cam Smith And I know,
like Cam Smith's a rookie. Camp Smith barely had any
minor league experience, very little obviously major league experience.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
This the first six weeks of the year. But try it.
He's fast, and you can't.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Use his size as an excuse of like, oh, we
don't want him awkward sliding and getting hurt because he
is the same size as show Heo Tani and Shoeo
Tani is a seven hundred million dollar player who is
sly however many times a game because he is stealing
these bases and you can't have these guys run.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Cam Smith can run.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, you got cheat the angles as much as you
possibly can, and the Astros, I mean especially two with
how inconsistent this lineup can be, that's something that they
strive to try to do. So Yeah, they lose last
night three to two to the Rays. Rubber game this
afternoon coming your way here on Sports Talk seven to
ninety noon. First pitch here on Sports Talk seven to

(12:30):
ninety Hunter Brown against Taj Bradley in that one Western
Conference Finals in the NBA. Last night goes the Thunderway
over the Timberwolves. Game one in the East tonight between
the Knicks and the Pacers and the NFL allowing four
players to take part in the twenty twenty eight Summer
Olympic flag football and a Texan might factor in at

(12:53):
least if this one site has their way of building
out that flag football team.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
We'll get into all of that here. The show goes long.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Seven one three two on two five seven ninety is
the number to get in against. Seven one three two
one two five seven nine zero. But coming up here
continue the Astros conversation because it seems like Ari this
is now a problem that we just cannot avoid it.
When it comes to this part of the Astros will
discuss that here it is John Salisbury Show, Sports Talk

(13:22):
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