Kyle Tucker Traded To The Cubs, Texans Beat Dolphins, Travis Hunter Wins Heisman, Rockets Lose In Cup Semifinals

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saulisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury to USC true longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury, Brian Lima,
go Lobos. This is the Seawan Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Shawn Salisbury, Brian A Lima, Manuel Elmore. Astros trade Kyle
Tucker to the Cubs. Texans your back to back AFC
South champions. They beat the Dolphins yesterday at NRG Stadium.
The Colts lost to the Broncos. They clinch that AFC
South title. Rockets fall over the weekend of the Oklahoma

(00:45):
City Thunder they lose in the NBA Cup semi final.
Sean Triple League. Good morning, Good morning man, what a
what a weekend? What a weekend for the Texans defenses
outstanding all defense still not very good. Kyle Tucker traded.
My goodness, Where do you guys want to start the

(01:08):
NBA Cup?

Speaker 5 (01:09):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Sure, Oh, football, little kingk Tuck. We'll get to the football,
right or do you want to go football or talk first? Well,
let's hit the football first. I want to talk the
way back. I really want to talk NBA Cup. But
where you go we talk?

Speaker 6 (01:23):
Well, they lost, so we don't want to talk too
much about they lost to Tripley's Oklahoma City Thunder, So
I'm sure he's bricked up. We play the butts now.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Way to brick it up, and you're gonna get boat raced.
I actually don't. Actually, I actually think the Thunder will win.
But Shay Gillis Alexander is pa HA might hang forty
on him. He probably won't on their ass. Let me
start with these Texans. I uh, first off, let me back,
let me back up a second. Do you want to

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know how offense is played? Watch Buffalo and Detroit. Yeah,
that's how you're supposed to play offensive football. Aggressive, smart,
kg Wiley, all that stuff, throwing, throwing flat routes with
coverage to tackle. I mean, just crazy ass stuff that
that's how you play football. And don't talk to me

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about anybody else. I don't want to hear By. I
know he threw five. I don't want hear about Lamar.
I don't want to hear about Mahomes, even though if
you had to pick five quarterbacks this year in your
MVP race or who the best five quarterbacks in league
are fifteen and kan't City ain't in the conversation. So
Mahomes is he's been a dominant player for a long time.
This year it's he not into conversation yet. Their teams
got one loss.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
And look at Joe Burrow, just another game, three hundred
plus yards, three touchdowns, five weeks in a row.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
He's done it. The MVP's done. It's Josh and it's
not close. In my opinion, this is a Barkley rush
for sixty some yards. He's had a great year. Hell,
Jamar Chase literally is number one in all the receiving categories.
Burrow Lamar threw five touchdowns yesterday, Golf threw for damn
near I mean threw five but for five bills yesterday.
I mean, there's some great offensive player. Some are going

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to go in there and probably get Saquon Barkley is
probably gonna win Offensive Player of the Year. But I
can tell you this, the MVP case is done, and
make zero mistake about it. The guy doesn't turn it over.
Josh Allen. He beats you with his legs, he beats
you with his arm. His teams, in my opinion, they
are the team to beat in the AFC. Even though
the Kansas City Chiefs are the number one seed right now,

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I think Buffalo's better. They beat him I do. Home
field advantage is going to matter huge. And you know,
mahomes limping around Texans. If you're going to ever take
advantage of a quarterback that's not fully mobile yet, he's
still great. This week might beat a week to do it.
But to the Texans, this is a very mid offense. Buddy,
I'm going to get the negative out of the way first.

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They're not that good offensively. A matter of fact, I
can name fifteen teams in the league I'd rather have
offensively in them, and that might be at the minimum.
That might be at the minimum. This defense though, now
I want you to remember no Alshai here, no Petrie,
and they were the little things that we need to
give credit for, Like Stingley. It's the way they catch

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the football too. On defense I'm talking about yeah. I mean,
hell Bullock is a monster. That's a first team All
Rookie player and and you know, I don't know he's
from sc of course he can move. I mean the guy,
could you know, I.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Mean he's probably like the one dude actually on the
defense that did something.

Speaker 6 (04:18):
Dude, can you can you he was there?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Whoa whoa early at six oh four. Hey man, I'm
just speaking the truth. But dude, he's playing like a
That dude's out of his mind. Yeah, but I don't
know what Too was looking at yet. I mean he
I mean the guy was between him. I mean, you
couldn't see the receiver. I mean it was it was
a wall. But to catch and then the run after

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the catch, I didn't. I don't think we realized as
a safety he had those kind of Now he got
chased down by a pretty fast player as well on
the other side of the football. But I'm just telling
you that that uh, Bullock's phenomenal. No way they expected
this kind of play as a rookie.

Speaker 6 (04:59):
No, I don't. I don't and thinks so, right.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
But Stingley the two balls he caught first of all,
the one at the end, ball was in his hands
and caught, and who knows what's going to go down
the rest of the game, even though two of those
those two picks going in and then they get the
two of fumble going in their way that led to points.
I mean you're talking about that could simply have been
seventeen to twenty one points both ways. Yeah, I mean,

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and Stingley catching the ball on both just phenomenal plays.
And so those little things, but they pressure what I
tell you Friday going into this in all week. If
he can't throw in rhythm, they're in trouble. Held the
ball along, fumble, held the ball along interception. I mean
he but when he throws in rhythm, dude, his swing
passes to the sideline are about as accurate as any player.

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There's a difference between completion and I love that he
said it yesterday Trent Green on the broadcast. There's a
difference between completion percentage and accuracy.

Speaker 7 (05:54):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
I'm just telling you people don't recognize that long swing
route to the back where he's looking down field and
swings it and hits the back upfield number and you
see the back jet and that team speed with them.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
He is so accurate.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
The problem is three or four times he didn't see
and he made the throw he made that was intercepted
by Stanley was a perfect throw. The ball is just
gotta be you got to haul that in, but great
play by Stingley not to quit on it, and you
just can't be late. But his accuracy, so you got
to be pinpoint and that defense they didn't give up
the home run run after the catch a lot. I

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mean on those swing pass they got extra yards. I'm
talking about. Hell Hill didn't touch the ball till the
fourth quarter. He didn't see the ball till the fourth quarter,
which is huge waddle. Obviously with the injury out most
of it that so they lost a lot of explosiveness.
But I'm just telling you this offense is not The
Texans offense is not very good. If they don't play
good defense yesterday, if Tuitt protects the ball, they lose.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Yet one hundred and thirty one yards passing.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
And it was and he doesn't even look good doing
that right now. He was going down on one to
have the arm strength to make the throw he made. Yeah,
that was nice, phenomenal. That's the thing. He makes some
throws that are like this, dude's a monster. Now we
know he's going to be a great player. He already
showed that spoiled us last year. But he's still missing
some stuff like he bouncing curl routes. It's just it's

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not like him, right. But we know he's a hell
of a player. I'm still not overly worried, but there's
there's something missing from that little extra that he gave
you last year when whether it was under duress or
whether it was just clean that that you knew was
a no doubt completion. I don't know how this offense
they they're there there, they got three layers. They got

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to climb before they can. We can even say they're
a late playoff competitor, but I'll damn well tell you
they fly around on defense, they are really frigging good
and catching the ball when.

Speaker 6 (07:51):
How many how many times have you seen a dB
drop a ball?

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Now I know the bullocks the bullock, you know, another
interception possibility. But they they drive on the football, they
pressure the quarterback.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
They're impressive. They are impressive defensively.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
I feel about their defense this year the way I
felt about the Texans offense last year. I felt like
whenever the Texans had the ball, they were gonna move it.
This year, I feel like whenever the Texans have the ball,
I'm not sure good stuff is gonna happen on a
continuous base. I don't know how they if they're going
to sustain great play and then you turn around and
say that's okay, because the defense is going to put

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you in position to win. They're gonna win on defense,
especially games. But the offense has got to get to
another It has to get to another level for them
to compete with the big boys.

Speaker 6 (08:37):
You saw Detroit, you saw Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Even though Kansas City's offense is blah, they still have
that ability you've seen. I mean, hell, we can roll
buff I mean look at Green Bay, Minnesota place tonight.
You can roll through thefenes this offense. There's no way
you could have told me this offense was gonna struggle
like this. No, there is no rigging way, No, not
even close. But adding Joe Mixon, yes, come on, man.

(09:03):
The key here is they still found a way to
get it done. Secure the division. Now that stress goes away,
you're not getting any home field advantage. So now, and
it's not gonna be like, well let's start resting players. No, no, no, no,
we ain't doing that either. They need to prove to
themselves that they can belly up on offense and pull
up to the bar and if they get whatever seat
they want, because right now their offense is.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
Not good enough to win two playoff games.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
No, it's not, especially against who they're going to have
to roll up against, right it's just not Yeah, you
want to defense their defense, can is going to give
their hell to pay?

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Yeah, you got Daniel Hunter with one and a half
sacks shyesterday Will Anderson got himself one in a tackle
for loss. Do you see the spin move that Daniel
Hunter made on the right guard or right tackle late
in the game. I did, dude, it was on He
is so damn good. I didn't even make I want
miss a play of that. And they just they're grind
to get to the their edge. They got to be

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what I say, I said between the two of them,
twenty five sacks this year?

Speaker 2 (09:59):
How are we?

Speaker 6 (10:00):
Let's double check there real quick.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Between there, I believe and Anderson they're both they're both
top five in sacks, so I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
Let me let me go ahead. I know hunters in
the top dan Neil Hunter is second with twelve, and
then there's Will Anderson at six with ten and a half.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
So ten and a half, so they're twenty two and
a half with three to go. Half if I said
they'll get to twenty five this year, and that'll be
And no matter how you when one gets fifteen, one
gets ten. Hell, they may still get with three games
to go, they may break twenty five. Yeah, so I
just to me, it's been that's the strength of their
football team. And right now, though the AFC, Buffalo and

(10:44):
Kansas City are the two teams beat in the NFC,
it's Philadelphia and Detroit. But I'm going to tell you
the other two teams in the NFC North are no
chopped Liver. I'm just telling you they're not. So it's
we're wearing for one hell of a run. But they
have got this. They have got to be better. They're
just not dangerous enough on offense right now. Yeah, there
are two kind of blog and there we're The explosiveness

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is out of play right now, and that's got to change.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Yeah, you want to talk about in consistency with a
run game, Let's just look at Joe Mixon's game log
over the last.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
I don't know, five or six games. Let's check it out.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
So he's got nine hundred and ten rushing yards so
far this season, so coming up on a thousand yard
rushing But listen to these numbers. Yesterday, twenty three yards
carrying or twenty three yards on the ground in the
win against Jacksonville two weeks ago. Because of the bye week,
one hundred and one yards in the lost to Tennessee
twenty two yards, in the win against Dallas one hundred
and nine yards, in the loss of Detroit forty six yards,

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So you got forty six. I'm gonna go from November
tenth up forty six, one oh nine twenty two to
one oh one twenty three. Literally one game over one hundred,
the next barely above twenty five.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, it's I mean, he's such a key to the team.
And credit to credit to the Dolphins defense for limiting
him right on on some of those I mean to
to make some other way to beat you, but some
of to his decision, his vision yesterday and missing some throws.
And then he made a couple of great throws, the

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throw to the back of the end zone to get
them within a score. Oh yeah, John Smith Smith phenomenal.
A couple of a couple of his accurate the problem
and then the last interception, what are.

Speaker 7 (12:23):
You going to do?

Speaker 6 (12:24):
The guys just yanked I mean Stingley yanks it from field.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
But the other two interceptions You're like, dude, what are
you looking at now? And then Stingley to finish and catch.
So I love the defense. We got a lot to
dive into love the defense love.

Speaker 8 (12:37):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Their special teams are going to keep them in games.
Are punter, nooxy inside the twenty all the time, gives
you field position, the kickers out that standing. They they covered,
you know they cover well. But the problem is they
can't keep up in a shootout right now. No, they
just can't.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
You think they'd be able to do what and troyd
and Buffalo did.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
And I got news for the Buffalo team. They'll play
if they run into them again. At some point I
got new this is different than and Josh Allen ain't
going nine to thirty against them.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
No, And it'll probably be in Orchard Park in like
five degree weather, so it's not of probably if they
end up somehow will take them there, that's exactly where
it'll be. So and they're gonna get a test to
what home field advantage looks like for Kansas City when
they have to deal with them. It's an and would
I say Baltimore look like a Super Bowl team yesterday offensively,
So they're gonna get Baltimore at their best. We we're

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in for one hell of a run. But that defense,
it takes a back seat to nobody right now. The
way they're getting after it. Yeah, there's no doubt.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
All right, there's a pretty wild stat and it involves
Kaylin bullet compared to the Dolphins offense. Let's talk about
that next right here on Sports Talk sevent.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
To eighty more Sean Salisburg, get in, strap in and right.

Speaker 6 (13:46):
In Texans are amc.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Heard?

Speaker 7 (13:52):
Wait?

Speaker 6 (13:52):
So are the Cubs?

Speaker 4 (13:53):
The are the Cubs the north of the South Like,
are they the north Siders of the South Side?

Speaker 6 (13:58):
South side is white Sox Right? Yeah, South Saturn. Yeah,
I heard. They call him north Side Tucker, King Tuck
of the North Side. It's going to be a bummer
blu king talk of the North. That's what they're gonna
call him. He'll probably win the MVP of the National League. No,
he won't because uh he's got to get through.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Uh show hey, give me up, give me a King
Tuck and show hey will be a good bat battle.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
They call him King Tuck of the North. He's gonna
step in the box to face show hay Otani.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
And now he added another day to the to the
National League. That's Soto. A lot of great players. Juan
Soto's twenty five. Now Tucker's gone. He has I mean,
I know the Texans in the weekend and has it
soaked in yet? No, King, No, Kyle Tucker's starting. Kyle
Tucker's not here. Yeah, he's not He's gone. And this

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week you're gonna get news about Bregman. Yeah, I don't
know what it is. What you'll get news about, I believe, yeah,
and I I mean I I mean, he'll be hitching
closer to Do you think he's going.

Speaker 6 (15:00):
With hitch Detroit?

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (15:02):
No, I don't think he's gonna be in Fenway Park
in Boston. I think it's gonna come down to two teams.
I think it's and this is just my opinion. I
think it's gonna come down to the Boston Red Sox
with the New York Yankees.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
The Yankees have missed out on everything outside of they
went and got Devin Williams from the Brewers, really good.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Burns anywhere yet did I the weekend?

Speaker 5 (15:23):
No?

Speaker 6 (15:23):
Not yet.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
I don't think. But I know how much I love him. Yeah,
you were talking about him. Pick him for the cy
Young like three years in a row. Yeah, at least
two in a row. Big Corbyn Burns fan.

Speaker 6 (15:32):
And another thing and not the one.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
And I know we're gonna, uh, I know, we're gonna
dig into the Kyle Tucker situation a lot. We've got
tons of football to get into as well. But just briefly,
the Toronto Blue Jays have been rumored to be in
every big deal possible and they can't land anybody. Why
does no one want to go to Toronto is because
no one wants to live in Canada.

Speaker 6 (15:52):
Well, like, honestly, could that be a thing.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Not because the people, but because all the way that
the way that they go about their business. That's got
to be part of it. Now, I can tell you
another thing, and I know that when you're a professional
athlete that you got plenty of money, you don't maybe
think about these things. Toronto, dude, is like it's New
York expensive. Toronto is not it? Toronto?

Speaker 6 (16:13):
It is it is.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
You might as well spend the same money you're spending
in Beverly Hills or Oh dude, new idea. Toronto's expensive
and it's beautiful and there's great I've lived two years
in Canada. It's beautiful. But with all the stuff and
all the things you got, there's some red tape you've
got to get through, and it's a pain in the ass.
And then you start thinking we'll do how do I
And I don't know how there were but the double

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tax you're paid here, you get in tax and boll
it's crazy. So I would think that's something to do
with that. And here's a problem too, Like I said,
great place, people are great. I'm telling you, if you
go to the Four Seasons in Toronto, you say, okay,
I can stay at this hotel is my home, right,
But it's phenomenal and Canada in itself, there's so many
beautiful provinces. It's awesome. But that's got to come into play.

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You can't just say and they got good players. It
does it all of a sudden, say hey, you know,
and they've got a history of doing some good day
you know when Cito Gassen was a man. They've got
some good history in Toronto. But it's got to be
deeper than just baseball and money, right, Yeah, it's whether
it's the getting the cross and how do you do this?
And what happens if something else hits and I got
to wear I mean what do I got to wear?

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In their leadership? I mean all those things that are
like whoa, and it's a it's an expensive city in Toronto.
But another thing you said, they're all in on everybody
and they just can't close it. They're also a team
that every year, oh, this is World Series team, and
they can't close that either recently. So, yeah, they've missed
out on some people. I will be it's just gonna

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be weird going into the season and thinking no, no,
neither one of those. And I don't I don't think
Presley's far behind either. You know, I think you're going
all three will be gone, just like we'd said, but
it will think about Bregman and Pinstripes and think about
you know what, you know what else they'd love about this.
They had Greg Nettle's one who was a phenomenal glove
at the Abrocious was pretty good when he was there.

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But yeah, but Nettles was. You got Brooks Robinson, Mike Schmidt,
Greg News. When you're talking about the third basemin with Gloves,
Nettles is in the conversation Brooks Robinson's in a different
rarefied air. Yeah, uh, he would. He didn't play, but
I'm talking about Gloves. He didn't play in New York
and I'm talking about and Brocious and Nettles. I'm talking
about his the best gloves of all time. Well in
this era, a Penn Stripe third baseman, if it's Alex

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Bregman gives you that kind of Greg Nettles glove. Brooks
Robinson was just different than Baltimore. Right, But so you
want to talk about painful for this, and now I
think it'd be painful if foot of all of a
sudden the Cubs said we'd like Bregman too. I'm just
joking or Boston, but it would cut him. It cuts
you really deep. If that dude's ends up in penstripes.

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You thought you didn't like it when Verlina went there, Yeah,
this will be doubled down. So I just don't think
he's gonna. I don't think they can afford to keep
him here. I mean they can afford it, but I
don't think they're gonna. I don't think.

Speaker 9 (18:54):
I think.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
I think when you traded Tucker, foregone conclusion as you're
moving away from Bregman as well. Either one if you
got read signed one the other was you're trading him
if you traded Tucker first, which you did. I just
think you're sending the message we're not this is just
who we are. We're not paying this.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
I listened to excuse me. I was on the astro
Zoom call with Dana Brown. He was speaking to the
media and he was asked a couple of different things.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
He was actud a ton of things.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
I was on for twenty five minutes, and one of
the things that he was asked was the latest on
Alex Bregman. And at that time on Friday, they hadn't moved.
They they hadn't had any progress since Tuesday of that
of last week with Alex bregmant he's not coming back here.
He's not, of course, he's just just gear up now

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because he's not going to resign it.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
If you're holding out those expectations, which is okay to
if your percentage of expectations as small, you won't be
as disappointed as because I've already prepared for it. Yeah,
I'm hell you and I have been talking about since
Slash Spring right. I thought it would have to be
a miracle if he played great, too much money, if
he played average, there's gonna be somebody who still thinks
he's great. So and you know what you're gonna get
from him leadership wise. Every single year. So I if

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you are hanging on a year like we're keeping, and
this means where can we traded Tucker so we could
pay Bregman. No, this is a it's not a fire sale.
It's a it's a semi reset, buddy, That's what it is.
They're trying to say, Okay, working under contracts that maybe
aren't as expensive.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
And I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
If the Nolan Aeronauto stuff is if they are hot
and heavy after him, as reported by some, while he
had didn't have his best year last year, he's still
good speaking to gloves, dude, he's got like he's in
the Chapman Bregman conversation. When it comes to Aeronauto is
a great player and it's put up great.

Speaker 6 (20:37):
Now what does he have? Does he still have that
in him in this lineup?

Speaker 7 (20:40):
Maybe?

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Maybe? But I can live with Aeronauto at third if
Bregman's out here for a year or two, can't you?

Speaker 10 (20:47):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (20:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (20:47):
I can?

Speaker 4 (20:48):
I mean because he pulls the ball like it's him
And who's the guy that the Astros just got? The
The ESK pread is they have the two best pull
percentages excuse me in the in the.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
National there trying to pull everything. Yeah, it'll favor them
here at this ballpark if they just let it happen,
right like Bregman did before the year he was popping up.
If you just let it happen, they'll tatter that left
field Crawford boxes right if it happens. So you have
to lower your expectations on Bregman being here.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Yeah, absolutely by the Bay ten gold gloves, six time
Platinum goal.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
See and we talk about Chapman, and we talk about Bregman.
I guarantee. Aeron Outos says, wait a second, he's sitting
in the classroom. He said, who whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.
Neither one of you two has as much of that
hardware after the season's over at that position as I do. Now,
I've been in the league longer. But slow your role
here because I'm in the Mike Schmidt goal. I'm in

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the Mike schmid now. It takes me like twenty more
to be or to be Brooks Robinson. Right, But when
it comes to current players, save it. And when Aeronauto
is at his best, he produces an MVP bat that
may be behind him, but with the left this is
a much better Hitters Ballpark than where he's been. Yeah,
no doubt, unlike Colorado right in Saint Louis. So that

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the Bregmant thing, you just got to deal with it.
If it's here, it's a miracle, yeah, if it's. If
it's not, then you just just just temper it because
this is a reset for the Houston Astros.

Speaker 6 (22:13):
He's not coming back, Bregman. It's not happening. Sorry, it's not.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
They're in the tank and they're done and I'll see
in three years. But it is a reset, and you're
gonna see three or four new bodies that are going
to be in the lineup that you didn't expect to
be in the lineup a year ago. It's just what
it is.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
Yeah, it's the way it is. There's no doubt. Seven one, three, two, two, five,
seven ninety is the number to join. All right, let's
get back to these Texans is. We're gonna talk tons
of Astros baseball coming up in the eight o'clock hour,
but we got Texans to dig into. They are the
AFC South champions for the second year in a row.
There's a crazy stat out there about Kyln Bullock compared
to the Dolphins offense.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
Let's talk about it.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Next, The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Let's take a quick call. Let's go to John. What's
that happening to John?

Speaker 7 (22:57):
Hey, good morning. Hey. Just want to make a comment
on the Tucker and on the Texans. First off, I'm
going to Tucker.

Speaker 11 (23:07):
I think that you know, I was really happy about
the trade, and I got a lot of calls from
people saying, boy, I bet you're happy now, and he said, yes,
I am. I'm really glad we got the trade. I
like what we got in return, and I love the
I love the rumors regarding Aeronauto. I saw an article
in I think was The Athletic where they said the

(23:28):
Cardinals could eat over a fourteen million of Aeronatus contract
in a trade, and I would love to see that.

Speaker 7 (23:35):
I'd love to see that here. I think that would
be an upgrade. I really do. I think that would
be an upgrade. And boy, I'd really be stoked if
that happened.

Speaker 11 (23:41):
But I'm really happy about it, and I'm happy that
some of these other players are going to get a
chance in right field.

Speaker 7 (23:49):
As you know, I was done with Tucker for quite
a while.

Speaker 11 (23:52):
Getting with the Texans, I love the fake punt that
they did last night.

Speaker 7 (23:56):
I loved that play.

Speaker 11 (23:58):
And you know, I'm seeing a lot of dog in
that defense. That defense is great, and I know Sean
has made some both guys make good comments on that.
I'm really excited about the defense. The offense, you know,
they're picking it up a little bit. I'm seeing some
hope for the offensive line and uh, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (24:17):
I'm you know, we'll see. Yeah, the offense just has
to pick it up.

Speaker 11 (24:20):
But I think the Texans have a great opportunity to
make a statement these last few games and when we
play Kansas City with Mahomes injury is ankle injury, we
got a chance to really make a statement going on
the stretch, and I hope they do. I hope that's
what the Texans do. But we'll see. And anyways, that's
what I wanted to weigh in on.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Hey John, just real quick, thank you for the kind
words that you're tweeting me over the weekend.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
Appreciate that.

Speaker 7 (24:44):
Oh yeah, you bet you.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
And thank you for all your constant engaging with us
on Twitter too, and yeah, yeah, we we appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (24:51):
I just like that.

Speaker 11 (24:52):
I just like the for you stuff when I see it,
and I'm sure you see it all too, but you know,
it's just, uh, I like to share that. And but yeah,
I'm I'm liking some of the rumors that are still
left for the Astros and the Aeronauto thing I think
is really exciting.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
I can live with him. I still think there's I
think there's a lot of things. I still think there's
gas in that tank, buddy, I do.

Speaker 11 (25:12):
Oh oh, yeah, yeah, I think I think it would
be an upgrade, I really do. And I think I
think the Astros would be in great shape with him here,
and uh and the players that they did in that trade,
and and uh, yeah, I think you know good stuff,
you know.

Speaker 7 (25:26):
I just I hope it can happen.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, there's changes happen, And John, thank you for the call.

Speaker 12 (25:30):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
We appreciates. Right, there's changes happening. But there are changes.
I don't want to say for the better yet, but
in the long run they may end up being for
the better. But hey, these days come just a matter
of when, and you're never overly prepared for them or
fully ready for him because of the emotional side. But
when you look at the baseball side of it, got
a chance to do some good things. And if Aeronaut's
into the fray, what are you going to look at

(25:51):
and say, I mean, guy's never been a hack in
this league. Yeah, I can play now if he can
regain and you get that power bat. He's a thirty
home run guy here. Oh yeah, if he he's one
hundred and forty five hundred and fifty games, yeah, I think,
and you know that there's a vacuum over there, and
it's a damn good one at third base. So you're
losing a great one. But if you were ever going
to replace him, is that Matt Chapman did this guy here?

(26:12):
H takes a back seat to nobody when it comes
to gloves in this league. And back to this Texans brilliant.
Matter of fact, the play was so good, yeah, especially
that's why I said defense and special teams we were
going to get to it all. The play was so good.
At the timing of the play enormous YEP. And the
play was so good the camera people couldn't follow it. Yeah,
a matter of fact, trying to get a replayer like

(26:34):
it happened so fast.

Speaker 6 (26:36):
They just and he's he's such a good.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Special teams coach and Frank He's one of the tops
in the league. He's one of my favorite coach. Fossil
is good. Jim's you know son, and he's going to Dallas, right, Yes,
and he's all when he was in like with the
Rams and stuff, he'd want, you know, Johnny Hecker would
throw footballs like a quarterback. I mean they'd have. But
it's not so much even just the design. It's when
you use that design and when you say, Okay, now's

(27:00):
the time we've seen it. We've seen it, we can
get this. And I think, well, not only caught Miami
off guard, it caught I think everybody else off guard. Hell,
you catch an official off guard if you're not careful.
So it was it was big and in truth and
John makes a great point. The most improved unit the
last five weeks, three or four weeks has been the
offensive line. Yeah, they've done a much better job.

Speaker 6 (27:20):
Switched.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
They put Titus Howard over to left guard, Jared Pattison
obviously at center, and then they moved they started Blake Fisher, right.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
I almost think that Titus Howard, we've been talking about
this since he came into the league. I'm not so sure.
Inside is not a better position for him full time. Yeah,
I'm dead serious.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Well, they made improvements when they put Jared Patterson at
center and they put Juice Grugs over at left guard.
Juice Gruggs obviously got hurt. They ruled out Kenyon Green
so he couldn't play, so moving Titus Howard there just
seemed to the protection was better. But my concern is
why is it so inconsistent with rue blocking now?

Speaker 2 (27:58):
It's a good point. Yeah, it feels like they focus
on one. Like last year they could pass protect great,
couldn't run block. This year they've been able to run
block with mix it and he brings his own blocker,
but they have had trouble pass block. And have you
noticed now since the lineup hasn't been set offensive line
like last year and they had a mix and match,
they're better. Yes, it's like, guys feel like I got
one chance to prove I'm in this position and they

(28:19):
elevate their play. But they have really done a good
job in pass protection of getting better after all the
and rightfully so, the vitriol at times they took, but
I can tell you that's not the offensive explosions weaker
than the offensive line now it's right last few weeks.
It's not the weakness. It's the inability to make big
plays and sustain to sustain bandwidth on offense that they

(28:42):
have not been able to do so. But special team's defense.
Take a bow man now. I can't take a long
one because he ain't gonna get any easier the next
two weeks. But take a bow because that was an
impressive performance, and yet they still couldn't quite put their
foot on the throat offensively yesterday.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Let me read this for turnovers on the defense. Want
to read this stat about Kaylen Bullock. Texans rookie safety
Kaylen Bullock had more yards than all of the Dolphins
wide receivers in yesterday. I mean after his catches, yeseah
insane that coming from Patrick Storm.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Neither passing game was explosive. In the offense, yeaday, No,
I mean I think Nico Collins had like five catches.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
For thirty yards or forty yards at one point. At
one point he had two receptions. I think it was
three receptions seventeen yards two touchdowns because they were short
short his short touchdown.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
His ability and on the touchdown where he worked his
way from the back line he was working the in line.
He's the number three or four in that pass play. Yeah,
and to be able to see it and it can
continue to work himself through zones and then to attack
the front pylon and for Stroud to find him damn impressive.
The guy has such a great feel for football. Now
beast a friggin beast. So fun to watch. And even

(29:56):
though it wasn't a lot, it happened at the right time.

Speaker 6 (29:59):
Yesterday.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Yeah, there's no doubt, all right, the Texans win the
AFC South for the second consecutive season. Well, they got
the Chiefs coming up on Saturday. Dimiko Ryan spoke to
the media after that win. What did he have to
say about the short turnaround against the Chiefs. We'll talk
about a NeXT's four suck seven to eighty.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
And it did no now you know, fucked Andy, Andy, Good.

Speaker 13 (30:28):
Morning, Hey, good morning.

Speaker 8 (30:31):
Uh yeah.

Speaker 13 (30:34):
I looked at the offensive line yesterday. They gave up
four sacks. Mixon had nineteen, had twelve carries for twenty
three yards one point nine yards, gave up four sacks.
And I don't know, but the only really good thing
I can say about the Texans are that offense coming

(30:57):
off of a bye week from slow It was consistent
then because they had ninety one yards the first half
and they had ninety yards a second half.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
And my point is is that they're there. There is
four sacks, but if you look deep into it, there
there's a sack. Doesn't always fall on just the five
guys up front quarterback because he has held he has
held the ball longer this year than he did last year.
But they have improved. They have gotten better. Better now there.
Now that's not going to be good enough to sustain them,

(31:28):
but they have gotten better, which is a tribute. The
inconsistency of that offensive execution and explosiveness is a problem,
a major one.

Speaker 13 (31:37):
Well, the problem is is a guy named Bobby Slowick.
If this all falls on, it falls squarely on the
head coach. He should have been changed weeks ago, and
if not, especially during the bye where Gid Johnson could
have had an extra week to prepare for the the

(32:00):
end of the season. I mean, everything fell into place
for him yesterday with Denver finally getting their butts together
in the second half.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Hey, Andy, let me ask you a question.

Speaker 6 (32:12):
I know he's local and I love him.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
I've known him a long time and I think he'll
be a hell of a coordinator one day in Gerrod Johnson.
But what makes you think right now Bobby Sloaks in
his second year calling plays. Last year he was you know,
we labeled him a genius and in line for a
head coach. They've taken a step back. He has Stroud
has the offense has this year. They just have They're
not near as explosive. I can't imagine where they'd be
if Mixing wasn't on the roster. That being said, and

(32:36):
I think Gerard will be well, but we also do
a hell of a job, but we also had the
timing has to be right. Why are what and is
it because he's local? Why are you ready to hand
him the reins that would make him a rookie play
caller in the middle of a season. Why would you
do that?

Speaker 13 (32:55):
Because Bobby Schlawyk is not getting the job done? It
is Sean Gonna admit watching that offense. I mean my
head still hurts because it shakes every time I watch
that offense.

Speaker 6 (33:07):
The lack of aggressiveness what bothers me.

Speaker 9 (33:09):
It's lack of every Sehn, It's lack of everything.

Speaker 13 (33:13):
I mean, my goodness, if you can't get Tank Dell
involved in the game, that's on. You run everybody deep
and have him run five yards, you cut over across
the middle.

Speaker 14 (33:22):
It's that easy.

Speaker 13 (33:23):
You can't tell me that tant Dell cannot get open quick.

Speaker 7 (33:27):
I know.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
But but Andy, listen, brother, I you know I love
your opinion, how passionate you are, and I know your
research for numbers and what you see. But I'm just
gonna tell you, and I may look at it just
a little different than you because I actually played the
position for ten years doesn't mean you don't know it
better than I do. And you may very well know
the position better. But I got news for you, and
I'm gonna I'm just gonna let you know it ain't easy.

(33:49):
If it was, why doesn't Jamar Chase have twenty seven
catches a week. Why it ain't easy? It is not
any and look how good he is. This is not
an easy game. The other guys are getting paid too.
And if Bobby slowed down, what if he dials it
up and he's wide open and the throw's mister thrown
behind or you know, a protection breakdown. It's not all
on Slowick, it's just not it's on players. It's on

(34:11):
slow it it's on de Miko for whether he's checking him.
But I can tell you this of all the and
you say a lot of smart stuff, but I can
tell you this. If you think it's easy, just say, hey, dude,
line up and just run across over there and get open.
Then you did, then you're watching the wrong Pop Warner
football because you damn will know it is not easy.
And you're a smart guy. It is not easy to

(34:31):
get him open. If it was, they throw it to
him thirty times a game.

Speaker 13 (34:36):
Let me ask you this, sir Sean. Let's do it
this way.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Just from my perspective sitting in the damn pocket.

Speaker 13 (34:41):
Okay, okay, I look, Clayton quarterbacks the hardest thing to
do in any sport. Ever, I don't know how the
hell they do it, especially when they show it from
the they get that camera view from behind the It's
amazing to me how anybody does, and how Breede was
so accurate at being so Jordan is just boggles my mind.

(35:02):
How they do it. But let me ask you this.
When Tank Dal went out last year, I think he
was asking five or six catches a game. And that
was after not getting much the first one or two
games of the season.

Speaker 8 (35:18):
It's just like he's he's not even a priority.

Speaker 13 (35:21):
And you know that the defense is I and who
Nico Collins?

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Why then, why does Nico Collins keep scoring and getting
open if they're if if if they're just eyeing him?
Why why is he constantly open? Why? Because he knows
he's a better player than Tank Dell.

Speaker 14 (35:38):
Right now, Hey, hold on things.

Speaker 13 (35:41):
So those that was because the defensive line didn't get
this shroud shroud and it was like a five second play.
That's why he caught them. He caught those posts out passes.
They weren't quick, they weren't quick throws.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Well, every successful play doesn't require a quick throw. Sometimes
you got ad lib and make a play, and he did.
I just listen. I like Tank Dotto, but I'm just
I'm just letting you know, Andy, I love your opinion,
and you know we have a great relationship. But for
you to think, hey, just for him run over there, listen,
it's not that easy, man. I'm just sorry. It's not dude.

(36:19):
I'm always honest. I'm always honest. There's nothing I say
on here that's a that's a friggin lie. Okay, honest, no, some.

Speaker 13 (36:27):
I'm honest about what I'm about to ask you. Do
you actually think Hill has been used properly in the
office this year?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
I think that I think the entire the aggressiveness of
this office. Would I like to see him with more touches?
I absolutely would, But it's not just incumbent about If
that's the case, why isn't Stroud just dropped Max saying,
you know what, I see the same things Andy does.
I'm gonna pigeonhole it and I'm gonna I'm gonna make
sure I drop back and get it to you. It's easy.
You told me it was easy. So why wouldn't Stroud

(36:56):
just say, Hey, screw Bobby Slowan, go up and run
a sixty option, right, I'll just throw it to you.
Why because within the framework of the offense, sometimes he's
the third guy and you don't get to him. Would
I love more Yes, you are one hundred percent. It
feels hey put your mute button on for a second,
please you. Yes, I would love to see him more involved.

(37:17):
But you know what else I would love to see.
I would love to see more big plays too. Nico Collins,
I would love to see other guys. I would love
to see Joe Mixon more involved in the passing game. Yes,
you're right, it'd be nice. And thank you for the call, Andy, dude.
I know you watch and do your research, but to
just flippantly say, oh, it can't be that hard, I
got news for you. The position and moving the football

(37:40):
in offense isn't supposed to be as easy as Detroit
and Josh Allen in Buffalo make it look. And I
don't know why we're crowning Tank Della pro bowler right
now that he's going to be that. He's a superstar.
Tank Dell's got some growing to do too. He's coming
off an injury, he's still working his way, and I
think he's going to be spectacular. My point is, yes, Andy,
I would love to see him get the ball more.
I would. I absolutely love to see him touch the

(38:01):
ball more. I would love to see Tank. I would
love to see Nico Collins have one hundred and forty
yards a week. Okay, I would, but it's not that easy.
So whatever, Bobby Sloas, but aggressiveness putting Tank Dell in
position to make him the first read getting him balls
on jet sweeps. Absolutely, you're not off there, But the

(38:22):
comment that, come on, it ain't that hard to just
tell him to go up and run across and get open. Yeah,
it's a lot harder than you think. If that was
the case, then you would have hell. When Puka Nakua
gets eight catches in a game, he's a Hall of Famer, okay,
And that's a guy who's the far and away the
best inside receiver we have in this league. And it

(38:42):
ain't close and you have to struggle to get him
seven or eight catches with the Hall of Fame quarterback.
It's a hard game. And yes, you're right, I'd like
to have it more focused on getting more involved with
bigger plays. Tank Dell needs to touch the ball more,
but there's more that goes into and just saying you
know what, that's Bobby Slow fault. That's Bobby Slolkes fault.

(39:03):
It's not like that. So I see the positive. Tank
Dell's gonna be a hell of a player, And you
are right, but I'm not ready to hand the reins
of play calling over to a guy who's never called him.
But I think is going to be great. It's not
time yet, and I'm not ready to crown Tank Dell
that he should be catching twelve balls a game because
playing offense is easy in the league. It's really not andy,
And I know you know that, and I know but

(39:24):
so a flippant that anybody can just get him the ball,
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Speaker 4 (41:19):
Derek Stingley having an all Pro season. He is arguably
the best quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 7 (41:24):
Right now.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
This was how it sounded on the broadcast when he
made his second interception taking the ball away from Tyreek
Hill late in the game.

Speaker 6 (41:35):
She's self titled Miami eage to win and get help.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Here's a one pass looking for Hills.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Stelis done it again.

Speaker 9 (41:48):
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Speaker 4 (42:00):
That was Kevin Harlan on the CBS broadcast U yesterday.
Derek Stingley Junior five total tackles, three solo, two interceptions.
He is had a couple of tackles for loss and
a couple of passes to flug. He has five interceptions
on the season.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
The dude is a finisher when the ball's in the air,
and I love it he catches it. It's so underrated.
There's a guy, and we have heard people joke, well,
guess what the reason why he's not on offense is
because you're talking about players, Well, because he can't catch
on defense. This dude catches. He's a finisher, and I
it's so underrated. Think about possessions you get or get

(42:42):
or or stop you get on offense or stop because
guys like him catch it. They say, don't break it up.
They catch it. And that was as important to play
along with the special teams. Fake that there wasn't a
game yesterday. Yeah it really was, and it was outstanding.
And then flip the field possession wise on the Bullock
pick and run. I mean that defense is, and it's

(43:06):
not even they're still learning that. There are a bunch
of young cats right right, they're still learning how to play.
And they did it with two of them. I would
argue their two best once you get past the passers,
their two best in space, hitters and tacklers. In al
Shaire and and Petrie speaks volumes to getting guys behind
you prepared and having a Harris behind and stuff, a

(43:28):
guy you know come off the bench and play.

Speaker 6 (43:29):
This is a this defense real.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
The offense has got to match it because in about
six days and ain't gonna get any easier. And I'm
telling you, once January hits, it gets awfully tough.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
You mentioned Harris, he came off the IR hasn't played
all season, long played yesterday. Eight total tackles for those solos.
So some good minutes from Christian Harris.

Speaker 6 (43:48):
Obviously, Jimmy Ward continuing to play good football when he
is healthy nine total tackles for solo and Henry Toatoad
led the way with eleven total tackles.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
I saw this on Twitter before the game. Also, this
is coming from Patrick Storm. He does a bunch of
stuff for the Houston Textans want to give credit for
credits due.

Speaker 6 (44:05):
Yeah, he sure does good stuff, he tweeted out Before
the game.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
An anonymous Dolphins player uh said this about Will Anderson
Junior during the warm up. He said, quote, he walked
into our locker room and walked right by me. He
tapped to a tongue of iloil on the leg and said,
lace them up. It's going to be a long, e
f and game.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
And obviously they're boys because they were teammates, right yeah,
I mean they I think, Yeah, Tua had to be.

Speaker 7 (44:29):
Was he there?

Speaker 2 (44:29):
When I'm trying to think of the cross time he
Will had to be? What a sophomore freshman, red shirt
freshman type of game?

Speaker 6 (44:35):
You think that's you think he actually did that.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
I don't know if he did.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
It could be it could be a satire. But if
he did, I mean it wouldn't I wouldn't doubt it.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah, And l. C. Greenwood tells a great story in Pittsburgh,
So these things do happen.

Speaker 7 (44:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Now, sometimes it's a guy like my coach John Robinson
going into another locker room and congratulating a team to
beat it because they're so frigging good, right.

Speaker 14 (44:56):
Is the L C.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Green would And I think it was and Joe Green
were in a like a lounge off the lockerroo where
the other posing team had to walk by. And this
is during the Steel Curtain, the best array of rosters
and on the planet right, Hall of famers everywhere. The
opposing players had to walk in walk by that little lounge,
and I guess Joe Green and Elsie Greenwood and they're
watching TV, watching a game and it's like an hour

(45:18):
before their game and walk by and one of the
players said, I think it was Gene Upshaw. I think
it might have been the Raiders. I thought he said Gene.
And if he's talking about Gene during his air, it's
Gene Upshaw walked by and basically said, what do you
guys doing? You got game to play, And I guess
Elsie Greenwood Joe Greed said, yeah, we're just in here
preparing for our next opponent, meaning we're about to whoop

(45:40):
your ass. Yeah, And that was one of the best
rivalries in the world, the Raiders and the Steelers, and
we're about to whoop your ass and uh, we're just wait,
we're just preparing for an ext opponent. Well, then there's
there goes your Pittsburgh Steelers run so same thing here.
Let them know, tap them and I'm sure to have
put a smile as they said that's the way. And
I've heard it on the field, said to me after
the first hit of a game, it's be a long

(46:00):
day's house.

Speaker 8 (46:01):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
And he won Lion too.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
It was at Alabama twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen. Will
Anderson Junior was there twenty twenty to twenty twenty two, so.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
He just glad it's the Alabama. That's why I said.
Maybe they didn't cross over in each other, but it's
that Alabama Fraturney. Of course, you got respect for him.
If that, if that was real, if he actually did
did did that? I love it?

Speaker 6 (46:26):
Yeah, me too, love it. Will Anderson is a is
a hell of a player and a hell of.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
A good dude too.

Speaker 6 (46:31):
Yeah, and it's him and him and Daniel Hunter are
unbelievable man.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Hard to find right now. They are when you talk
about bookends. They fit the bill. And Hunter's been illegal.
This is just commonplace for him. Will Anderson is obviously
continuing the infancy of learning how to even be a
more dominant pass rusher. Talk to me next year, Yeah,
as if they get fully kick. You keep taking a
look at this team and they're how they're going to

(46:56):
expand this, and you keep those two together, you're gonna
have hell to pay to try and block them.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
You know, there's a there's always so much talk about
Bobby Slogan his offense. So yesterday just kind of looking
around the league, and I know we've talked about him
a lot this season. Ben Johnson, his innovativeness, that's even
a word when it comes to his offensive play calling
is unbelieve. Some of the plays that they that the
the Lions reign yestery against the Buffalo Bills is just stupid.

(47:22):
Good like they're that there. His ability to call plays
is is just like I said, it's just stupid.

Speaker 6 (47:29):
Is just stupid.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
There is no doubt. And you know what's crazy, I
think that Joe Brady had one of his best They
had one of the best offensive play calling days I've
seen in a long time. I actually think there's a
chance that both of those cats are going to be
head coaches next year. Really, both Ben Johnson and Joe Brady. Yeah,

(47:50):
Joe had the down when he was with Matt Rule
that Carolina wasn't very good. Since he's replaced, you know,
with gone to Buffalo and Ken Dorsey left and he's
been the offensive course and they're there. I didn't know
if Josh Josh Allen has been good his whole career.
I mean that passed his first year. You've seen it.
This dude, This dude's playing at a whole different level.
And Joe Brady's putting the ball in his hand in

(48:12):
all different ways. Remember what he did for the other Joe.
You know, Joe Burrow was pretty damn good. And you know,
I guess if your name starts with the Jay and
you played for Joe Brady, Joe Brady, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen,
you're pretty good. But Joe Burrow had the best season
of his life in college. And look what he's Look
how he's feasting off Joe Brady, meaning Josh Allen. So

(48:33):
this guy knows how. Now they may make him do
it another year like Ben. You know how Ben Johnson
last year could have got a job, said, I stick
around one more. Maybe Joe Brady does that, but hey,
he's on a fast track.

Speaker 14 (48:43):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
This dude just knows how to call plays. And there's
a art to calling plays, not just knowing football and
x'es and o's, but calling get into a play calling rhythm.
The best two play callers not named Andy Reid were
in a game yesterday and they hung like ninety points
on the board between the two or whatever it was.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
There's going to be some openings across the NFL because
I don't think day ball uh survives. And with the Giants,
I think the Jets will have an opening for their
new head coach.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Brick will be down at it with the Jets.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
Man, you know who else is probably gonna be on
the hot seat is Zach Taylor up in Cincinnati. Not
sure if they're gonna move on for him, but they're
definitely on the hot seat because they can't.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Unless Joe Brik Burrow may go to bat for him,
you know, and say, listen, things are we just got
to get right. But we'll see.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
And then Jacksonville, I don't think Doug Peterson's gonna be
able to survive that one.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
I you know what, The Raiders are two and eleven,
and I know it's Antonio Pierce's first year, but my god,
they are terrible.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
That they're more than likely going to move on the
Saints are probably gonna move on. All Rizzy's done a
good job as the interim, but they offensively are when
car doesn't play, they're fairly futures. All the Chicago Bears
bears that, well, we already know this interim that's gonna change,
so they'll be off. You know, you know, everybody's gonna
want They're gonna want their Ben Johnson or Joe Brady
coaching their young quarterback. Yeah, of course they look what

(49:58):
Cliff Kingsbury's doing with uh, Jayden Daniels. Everybody's intrigued. That's
why that's why offensive coordinators get hired more, because they're
all intrigued, how are we going to score? How are
we going to score? Even though defense is so damn
important as we see here, it'll always keep you in games.
But those two guys are going to be a hot
commodity when it's over. And if you're Detroit and if
you're Buffalo, you're saying, I wish there was a way

(50:20):
we can keep both. But that's the natural progression of
great coaches. They become great coordinators, and then you're going
to lose them, and then can you keep up?

Speaker 4 (50:28):
And then also, as I look down in the NFC South.
Look who's leading the division now, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The
Baker may He's coming up on four thousand yards passing.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
His rejuvenation of his career right now, Cleveland saying we
probably should have just kept him and kept rolling along. Yeah,
and his grind once again, when he's got backup mentality
meaning should I say walk on mentality football? I think
when he's been a star, it's when everybody's crown him
starts doing all the commercials. Not that you shouldn't capitalize on, right,
but when he's in that, I'm a walk on grind.

(51:03):
The dude's been phenomenal. Tampa doesn't need a quarterback. No,
they got him, They got him. Yeah, it's impressible.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Hall of Famer and Mike Evans at wider coming up
on another thousand yard receiving.

Speaker 6 (51:14):
He's good on Baker Mayfield. You know what, you haven't
heard a lot this year, have you?

Speaker 7 (51:17):
No?

Speaker 2 (51:17):
He just staying on his grind and playing outstanding, actually
Pro Bowl caliber football at times. He really is.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
Absolutely he is fun. All right, let's get to the
steak out next. On Sports Talk seven eighty.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
No, back to Sean Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

Speaker 3 (51:43):
The Salisbury stakeouts Salsbury takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
All right, it's time for the steak out here on
the Sean Salisbury Show, Sean Brown and Tripoli astros Trey
Kyle Tucker to the Cubs, Rockets loves to Oklahoma City
in the NBA Cup Semifinals.

Speaker 6 (51:57):
The Texans beat the Dolphins.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
They win the AFC South for the second straight year
after the Colts loss of the Broncos yesterday. All right,
for the stakeout, Sean, I want to talk a little
bit about the NBA. I was watching the NBA Cup
semi finals, which were the Rockets in Oklahoma City Thunder,
and the broadcast grew Mike Breen, Richard Jefferson, and Doris

(52:21):
Burke tough. Listen for me, Richard Jefferson sucks.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Although Doris Brook's better than so most of their shee
My issue with Doris Burke, and it's not just the Rockets.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
I feel like when I do listen to her as
of late, she picks one team and she rides for them,
and she criticizes the hell out of the others. She
made so many backhanded comments about the Rockets the other night.
It was annoying, and Richard Jefferson is also annoying. So
my question is there's been so much to be made
about the ratings in the NBA and how they are

(52:55):
just continuing to decline. NBA ratings are down forty eight
percent since two. They are already down twenty eight percent
this year alone on ESPN, while other sports leagues NFL, NBA,
NHL all are setting records when it comes to their ratings.
So I'm just gonna list a couple of things, and
I want to get your take on why you think

(53:16):
ratings are down. You have to pay for multiple streaming
services to watch games. We've talked about that with all
kinds of different leagues. But in hometowns, you can't even
watch your hometown teams with league pass. Small markets with
big stars get no airtime. Anthony Edwards for minnesot I'm
just gonna use him as an example. ESPN fired the
best broadcasting crew they've ever had when it comes to

(53:37):
the NBA, which is Mike Breen, Mark Jackson and Jeff
Van Gundy. Those three were phenomenal together the league. Also,
the NBA also picked money over the most entertaining cast
in sports hosting on TNT. Obviously, I think TNT finally
got picked up whatever the deal is with that.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
And they're ESPN right, they're gonna go dow. But are
they gonna Are they gonna filter them?

Speaker 6 (54:00):
Well, they don't filter.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
They don't filter Pat mckis, they better not filter Charles
that should not be anywhere near the same. No, won't
and they I don't think they'll stand for it, to
be honest with you. So with all that being said,
they're bigger than the ESPN, right it comes to basketball.
With all that being being said, why do you think
NBA ratings continue to decline and they're going to continue
to I? I uh, they only market their superstars, right,

(54:25):
Like you mentioned Anthony Drews in small markets? You know,
did you realize, well what about Shake, Gilges Alexander those
are two of the biggest stars in the league.

Speaker 7 (54:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Now, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not paying close enough
you I I know who they are, but dude, does everybody? No,
it's an put it this way. The here here's how
I judge if you market them, right, if the average
four sports fan who watches sometimes knows who the people
are now. That has to do with talent. I I
also think that when you went through COVID and went

(54:56):
through how they shifted that everything, it turned people off. Well,
won't society turned people who pay and watch off? See?
The one thing is Michael Jordan always pointed out, which
is great liberals and conservatives spend money on sneakers. So
why did he have to take us? You know what
I'm saying point and I'm not saying it was just politics.

(55:18):
But they wait, they forced stuff down your throat as
opposed to letting a great game with great players, and
we have allowed. And I'm going to tell you another
thing that I think is big about it. I think
load load management has been a big problem now that
now have you seen how that Now they're trying to
fix it. But here's how they have to fix it
by giving you an in season tournament to pay them

(55:40):
a million dollars a player to win before Christmas. Prices
go up. For the fan, I'll always say it, fans
don't get a seat at the table. I think it's
a lot of things. I think it's it is the
marketing is stars, it is they don't play defense a
lot of times in the NBA. Look at the NBA
All Start game watchable now.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
Oh, just on that point, the halftime show of the
Rockets in Oklahoma City, they were bitching about how much
of a defensive game it was.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
I think it was like forty two to forty one
at the half. I am, and they were complaining about it.
That's and so you're not marketing. You're not marketing good basketball.
You're marketing offensive basketball. And I get it, but you
may not like it. COVID masks, the price woke telling
people they had to wear I'm just saying all of it,
all of it combined, instead of just letting you be

(56:29):
a basketball fan and shoving stuff down your throat. And
same with the players and the then fans in corporate America,
I think there's a lot of different things. Whether you
like Wolk, I'm just saying, you're asking me. Whether you
agree with it or not, I don't care, that's up
to you. But I'm just telling you go and read
comments about somebody when matter of fact, if you want
to see a fan like fans, and I think the

(56:49):
NBA back the athletic the athletes played for play best
athletes in the world playing basketball doing the things that
you can't high rise and do what they do and
play like they That's not normal, right, But go go
go put an NBA thread up about what you just
asked me and watch the comments. I'm not saying that
that's what dictate social media, but social media helped an election,

(57:09):
has hap helped it the past. Social media gets people hired.
Social media gets people that you know triggered all those things.
Go and watch the car. Well, I don't watch it anymore.
Oh I love that player. I don't watch it anymore
because of this or because of that. Look at the
comments and they are They're all over the map. So
whether you like it or not, it's affected a lot

(57:30):
of people. Go ahead and start reading them.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
Okay, so I one of the reasons why so I
bookmarked over the weekend. Colin Coward on his show a
couple of days ago on FS one The Herd, he
had a segment on this and he said, quote, the
NBA ratings are down forty eight percent in the last
twelve years, and they have fallen off a cliff this year.
And Adam silver solution is, hey, let's make the courts brighter.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Just go out the courts suck.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
He said, just go ask the Democrats. Be warned, once
you detach from regular people in America, you will pay
a price. End quote in the comments.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Is an a way? Isn't that what im go and
detached from the regular people in America? That what happened? Yes,
isn't that what I'm saying here?

Speaker 4 (58:07):
Here is one guy I stopped watching when they would
not stop bringing politics like the BLM movement and putting
it all over the floor. I don't try to get
into politics too much when I go to national anthems,
but I go to sports to an escape, to find
an escape, and they try to shove it down the throat.
Here's another guy. NBA ratings are down because each game
looks like a no defense All Star game. Another guy said,

(58:30):
I didn't read this. I didn't writ NBA went woke.
I'm just reading the comments from just normal.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Like I told you to, and I didn't see comic
Coward's post.

Speaker 6 (58:37):
I promise you.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
So my point is go read them and you're gonna
get a lot of these same comments. And it's right.
The part about it is as a normal fan, you
shouldn't be able to get you you market your NBA
the way you want to. But if you're marketed only
to the players and not taking the fans of the consideration,
would you expect, Like I said, if you believe in

(58:58):
a certain movement, great, If you believe that you don't
want to stand for the national anthem, that's on you.
That's not how I believe, but that's on you. All
those things that come into play. Well, what's the first
thing we think about NBA players spoiled Rotten's and that's
not fair to all of them. But that's what fans
think that I've been around, Dude, I wouldn't. I'm looking.
I promise you as I'm sitting here now, I'd miss

(59:19):
NFL games growing up. I miss NFL games when I
was in college. Do you know the number one thing
I had to watch? It was nball when Bird and
Magic and Jordan and co. It was all the time.
But you know what they did.

Speaker 6 (59:32):
They allowed you to choose.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
All Star games were competitive and I'm just using all
Star game. They didn't tell you what you had to
look at a uniforms and shoes and who and this
and somebody walking up the court and load management telling
Michael Jordan to take a day off he to punch
you in the face. All these little things start to
add up to a big thing. And when you do that,
you can't cater to just the players. You got players

(59:54):
want to get paid. You got to cater to the fan,
the average fan who shows up a couple of times
or corp in America. You cannot tell them how they're
supposed to think. And when you do, you lose half
of them. The NBA ratings will the NBA rans aren't
gonna get better. They're gonna get worse. It's proven your years.
It just is so stuff that we used to watch

(01:00:15):
like clockwork. I can't miss it now it's well. And
then I'm telling you when a broadcasters weave in that
kind of stuff where it's a it's like like you
don't like your guy, m Mark Joe. You don't like
him because he weaves it in for certain games.

Speaker 6 (01:00:29):
He's a d writer, be objective and called the damn game.
I don't want to hear you. We've got finished yourself
calling Deon Sanders freaking game.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
We've gotten to the point or like when the broadcast
team said you can't do that. This is ruining college football.
As much as I like Gus Johnson and Joel clat
As Broadcast couldn't stop talking about it, and and they're
both great. But the problem is when you weave yourself
into over. Your job is to report it, not create it.

(01:00:58):
And when you start creating at the average, you got
to think about the end. That doesn't mean you got
to kiss the fans ass, but when you start telling
them how they're supposed to think instead of report the action.
Got a prop Now on studio shows, that's an opinion
show you you you're right it, You do what you want.
You're an entertainer. You're not a journalist.

Speaker 14 (01:01:14):
Steven A.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Smith when he's on the when he's on the NBA Show,
or when he's on WHOA I mean, woke Up?

Speaker 14 (01:01:19):
Wake Up?

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
What's it called? Get Get up? Get up? When you're
when you're on that show, you it's your opinion, you're
going at it. You're not a journalist unless you bring
a journalist on to give you, Hey, let's go out
to what's our guy on college game day that they
always go out to to do the reports. When he's
standing there, you know the uh.

Speaker 6 (01:01:34):
It's not that's not Stanford Steve. He's talking about not
Marty Smith's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
He's the actual Pete. Now that Pete reporting is a journalist.
That's not opinion. That's with the facts that he's getting.
When herb Street talks, he's watching tape. When Nick said that,
they're entertainers talking sports. So when you're doing the games,
you got you gotta you gotta get yourself out of that. Yeah,
you just do. But that's why the NBA and how

(01:02:00):
they change it. It becomes about the player and the
fan watching basketball and and not telling you how you're
supposed to think or where what you're supposed to see
with your visuals other than basketball. I don't watch it
as much I used to, Right, It bumps me out. Yeah,
I just don't.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
All right, let's continue to discussion next seven, one, three, two, five,
seven ninety as we roll along right here on seven
ninety were.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 6 (01:02:25):
What's that in a biscuit?

Speaker 8 (01:02:27):
Hey tomb at it my morning? My brothers, Hey Sean Madema.
I think some of the things you guys said are
part of it, but I don't. I don't think they're Oh.
I can think of three issues that are bigger problem
for the NBA than the ones you guys said, because okay,
the NBN one the only players taking knees and stuff

(01:02:48):
like that. They were doing in the NFL and all
the other sports too, but they didn't, you know, they
you know, they didn't have no problem for covering from it.
But number one, the NNBA games are not as entertaining.
I'm I mean you last year in the NBA Finals,
it wasn't a game. It was even close, you know
what I mean. So you gotta have an entertaining product,
and you got a bunch of guys that's jacking up

(01:03:09):
threes and it's just not is entertaining. And they, for
whatever reason, the rules they adapted they thought would make
it more entertaining because it'd be more scoring. But really
it is more scoring, but it's not as entertaining. The
number two thing I would think that Sean that's really
big is the best players are not American, you know

(01:03:30):
what I mean, Jokic and Shae Gilders and Luca and
all the you know, Lebron has stepped their old news
you know what I mean. Lebron is getting old, you
know what I mean. It's people tired of Lebron really basically,
and so the best how do you market.

Speaker 14 (01:03:47):
Guys that are not American?

Speaker 7 (01:03:49):
You know?

Speaker 8 (01:03:49):
And then I think the third team the biggest property,
I think, Sean is the NBA catered to a younger
audience and they're not you know what I mean. But
the younger audience is the least likely to watch sports,
you know what I mean? Me and you say, and
we watch sports all the time. My son's them. They
like they could take it or leave it, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
They can.

Speaker 9 (01:04:12):
Watch it again.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Yeah, they watch it on a minute and thirty clips
a highlight of the best place right yep.

Speaker 8 (01:04:18):
And so if you put your hat on trying to
burst in or younger generation, you know, to say, well,
these guys getting old, we'll put our money on getting
the young people to buy into it. But to what
young people are not into it, you're gonna have a
problem and you're to turn off your audience. He had

(01:04:39):
to try to get a new audience and you didn't
get it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
And you know what else biscuit about that is And
and I know you're trying to grab a generation because
they're the next generation that that you think is going
to spend money. But in truth, right now as we
sit and I don't mean this district that plenty of
thirty year olds. I'm sure got money. Thirty year olds
ain't paying for your advertising or are spending money. They're
just not spending They're watching and clips and they're doing that.
But if you want to, if you want to get

(01:05:03):
money for your NBA shows and companies, guess where you're
not going to a twenty five or thirty year old.
You do want to get them so when they become
forty they want to spend money. That's not where it's at.
So you're losing money there, and you're exactly right there.
Attention span for all of us has waned over the years,
and the games quite frankly, it's not as quality. You're
exactly right, and we've got a lot of foreign stars,

(01:05:25):
but you know, and you're not capitalized on that. But man,
the Anthony Edwards of the world and Shay gilgis Alexander,
I get it. Lebron's about to leave the league, if
not sooner than later whatever I mean, So who's next
to carry that? I mean, it's just and you mentioned it,
and you're right. Other sports survived it, some didn't do
it as much and st I was just talking about

(01:05:45):
it's a little bit everything and a lot of some
other things. You're exactly right, and you and I both
I hate to say it. The athletes are great, the
quality of plays not as good as it used to be.
I'm just sorry from my vantage point, whether it's diving
superstars diving on the floor, and you know the guys
I'm talking about that they didn't look at themselves as
sacred cows.

Speaker 16 (01:06:05):
You did.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
You took more pride and winning the ninety nine or
an eighty eight eighty seven game if you were Detroit
or the Knicks than you did win in one forty
to ninety. I mean, it's just different. And then make
it bad. But that's why. But the money is and
Dan we got there's too many things to do on
social media that you're doing. They'd rather tweet as we
all do at times, then watch forty eight minutes of

(01:06:28):
basketball that you're not sure what you're gonna get and
who's gonna play.

Speaker 8 (01:06:31):
Another thing and you you kind of brushed on it
is why would I It seemed like the fans are
more upset about a Wanner win or lost in the players,
you know what I mean. It's just like they, hey,
they could take it or leave it. They just happy
to get paid. Yes, you know what I mean it
where is magic and burden? And you could tell they man,
they died on the floor. Kobe man, they get a

(01:06:52):
you know, life for it. But these guys, they man,
if they win, they win. If they don't the Jane
I'm talking about the James Hardin type.

Speaker 7 (01:06:59):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (01:07:00):
They'll come out there and put up forty one night,
next night they put up eighty. Hey, ain't no beg thing.
I'll get it next night. And that kind of you know,
it kind of runs off the fans and wrong way.
And so why should I be care if you don't care?
So that's not just to take on I just think
those things. But but those foreign players man being the
best players Joki, say, Luca, I think that's a factor too.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Yep, and real quick biscuits. Thanks for the call, man, Uh,
great points, valid points. But think about this biscuit. Name three?
You named a couple, Yep, I named five. We had
a good subody call. I mean, think about this. We've
just named fifteen things that are the problem. M Yeah.
Now when I say the NFL raiders go, what's the problem, Uh,

(01:07:46):
sometimes officiatings has been a big problem in the NFL.
H what else? I think some would say overall quarterback
plays down, but the top of the league quarterback play
golf and Lamar and Josh Allen and Burrow through the roof.
I mean this, Donald Jordan Love Yeah so so so
what's missing? Well, the streaming aspect, of course, see now

(01:08:09):
your stuff. But that's not the players us. Yeah, that's
the adults in the freaking room.

Speaker 6 (01:08:14):
That's the marketing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Yeah, that's exactly right.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
I'm not a fan, honestly, and this has nothing to
do with Europe. I'm not a fan of the eight
thirty kickoffs on a Sunday. I can't stand it when
they go over the ponds too much. I think, to me,
it's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
But if it's a good game, at least additionally wake
up to it like we would college game. I get
what you're saying, that's a small part of it, right,
But real quick, I can line up the NBA and
go down twenty five things which said you'll struggle to
find four or five of them. Now, Baseball, you better
be careful. You better be careful because because you're gimmicking
and this is the This is the adults in the

(01:08:48):
room as well. You're not going to a player and say, hey, no,
what I think it's a great idea. It would be
a great idea. Is giving me the golden at bat?

Speaker 7 (01:08:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Now, what is this like? I willie walk in the
chalk of fact. You dumb asses, stop messing with the
damn Yes, leave good stuff alone. And I'm telling you what,
for different reasons, Baseball is going to screw it up
if they keep this up of applying gimmicks to a
great game that we just want a hot dog, we
want the smell of the ballpark, we want fresh cut grass,

(01:09:17):
and we want to watch great players play. We don't
want to put a guy on second in the tenth
inning because COVID thought it was eleven o'clock at night
was worse than this, and we all found out that
that was fraudulent. Stop it. Leave a good game alone.
Football is just football. I mean you got to really
work hard to screw that up. Baseball's trying to screw
it up with their stupidity, with their gimmicks in the

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yet we still love it. They're not there yet, but
boy are they trying. Because they got a non baseball
guy running a baseball league. The NBA now with all this,
see the NBA, isn't it thriving? The NBA with those
great talented players. The NBA now is trying to scramble
around and find ways to get you there, and their
marketing play and guess what it isn't doing it ain't
They've got to shift at a you mentioned it. Some

(01:10:01):
of the broadcasters they they're getting rid of guys that
matter and when I say matter that we want to
listen to and females we want to listen to, as
opposed to just doing it cutting costs. Don't cut costs
on good broadcasts because good. A bad broadcast will make
you turn the sound down and it'll make you turn
it off. Absolutely, even though we watch the players, a
bad broadcast can ruin it. Yeah, and the NBA and

(01:10:24):
the other the two major sports far outwigh the negative
of the NBA's uh all the check marks far out
away the other two sports.

Speaker 6 (01:10:31):
Yeah, there's no doubt.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
Seven one, three, seven ninety got some people that want
to weigh in on this discussion, so we'll get to
them next right here on Sportslock seven to eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
The Sean Salisbury show continued, what do you think, triple e?
I go Luther and you had to point like you
just gave me a great assist. You know what I'm saying,
Basketball fast break, Sweet Lou?

Speaker 16 (01:10:56):
What you call.

Speaker 5 (01:10:59):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
All him quite frankly, goat category Fat Lou. I like
Fat Luthor better than I do Skinny Luthor. Yeah, I
just did.

Speaker 6 (01:11:07):
And I mean that's calm with pH h. We know people,
sure I do.

Speaker 11 (01:11:13):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
They told us to go bigger, go home and you
take it personally? No, I uh, well, one of the
silky smooth voices of all time, Luther Vandross would I.

Speaker 6 (01:11:25):
Oh, no, Sweet Lou has been taken like by Lou Hudson.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
We've used that.

Speaker 6 (01:11:28):
I just call him, uh l Dog okay, like Lou Lou. Uh,
what's who?

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Hang on me, let me get dog in the house. No,
I think he deserves the full No, you know what
he is. When you get to the one name stage,
you just call him Luther. Yeah you can't. You can't
forget about Lou began.

Speaker 6 (01:11:46):
Yeah, we actually can. What do you mean that song sucked?
That number five? Yeah, that song sucks. It sucks anyway,
thanks Lou, but you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Know yeah, yeah, beggar bega bega, batch of these nuts
on your forehead? Any kidding? Luther Vandross is one of
those like Michael Jordan, Like when you say mj just
one name, Hey, who is that?

Speaker 6 (01:12:12):
Luther Luthor?

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Yeah? You put respect, you don't.

Speaker 7 (01:12:14):
She don't.

Speaker 6 (01:12:15):
You don't shorten his name and you don't. He didn't
need a nickname.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
I don't think you were in the smooth when Luther's
Barbecue was around. They got they got bought out by
Papa's great Papa Papa. It's still not Luther Vandross. Yeah,
that was the jingle. Yeah, Luther, you just call him
Luther silky smooth just like honey. Yeah, that's one of
the all times. Were you just doing with your hand
right there, just like the honey was falling down you

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just like silky smooth loofer.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
The best respect on lou Bega. Please stop it? What
do you Most people don't care or know. I mean, hey,
God bless you. It was a big hit?

Speaker 7 (01:12:50):
Was he one hit?

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
Wonder?

Speaker 5 (01:12:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
So I mean respect, but stop it. Yeah, came out
ninety nine. Don't you dare put those two in the
same don't put them in same camera.

Speaker 9 (01:13:00):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:13:00):
He was pretty good loofer. He was a one hit wonder,
just like the Texas Rangers and the Luthor whoa, you
gotta get the dig Yeah, why not? Let's talk to Dennis.
What's happened to Dennis?

Speaker 9 (01:13:14):
Are you having money?

Speaker 14 (01:13:15):
Fellas?

Speaker 17 (01:13:16):
I got a big problem with the NBA because the
quality of play has gone down because of one thing,
Guaranteed contracts.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
Guaranteed contracts has ruined the league.

Speaker 17 (01:13:26):
Sean, You've been in a locker room where you've seen
guys get paid and guys who need to earn their money,
And what's their attitudes after you get a big contract
to when you need to earn your money. There's a
big difference unless you're a special athlete.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
And you know what, unless they got special character and quality.
You're exactly right right, see, no matter how much, a
lot of the guys are gonna play like they did
when they earn one hundred grand. And then there's the
group that I got mine, I mean I got paid
so now I can mail it in there. That exists,
no doubt, yep.

Speaker 17 (01:13:53):
Yeah, And you see guys like you see guys like
Ben Johnson, Joel embiid this whole thing with Bron James
and Browny and load management.

Speaker 14 (01:14:04):
I mean, people are tired of it, don't I really
don't want to watch it.

Speaker 17 (01:14:07):
And you know, you get these attitudes towards these markets
where these guys, these players force their.

Speaker 13 (01:14:12):
Way out of markets and it destroys that market.

Speaker 18 (01:14:15):
For fifteen to twenty years, Utah just lost what's the
what's the name of player.

Speaker 14 (01:14:21):
That went to Cleveland?

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Oh, you're talking about the guards, Mitchell.

Speaker 18 (01:14:31):
Yes, Okay, it's gonna take. It's gonna take Utah fifteen
to twenty years to get back to being competitive again.
So if I was a Utah Jazz fan, why would
I even care? And I'm gonna leave one thing to
for you guys.

Speaker 17 (01:14:44):
Imagine if MLB and NBA had the financial background like
the NFL did, what a different game they would be
for both leagues.

Speaker 14 (01:14:52):
I'll hang up a listen, see.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Thanks that it's good stuff. And I'm gonna tell you
another thing that that I know that this is gonna
fall on some people going to be pissed, because I
do think I want it a little bit. I think
we've got out of hand and it's already down to
college and high school. NBA, NFL, we have too much
player empowerment, Yeah, no doubt, we just have. We have

(01:15:14):
too much player empowerment. We have told them they not
only can be player, we want them. Well, they're in
charge of their own careers. Great, But in the process
of being in charge of your own career as a teammate,
you got to be in charge of your team first.
That's the way it always works in a big business.
What do you in a big business? What succeeds guys? Guys?
Selfish people are people who are looking out after their teammates.
Carry your business and take care of your team. It's

(01:15:34):
not just about oh, let me get mine. I think
we've overdone player empowerment that you could literally force your
way out of out off a team and thrive and
get paid more to go somewhere else. And we've lost
our balls when it comes to the to some of
the stuff in the in pro sports front offices and
coaches have lost their balls because they're afraid player empowerment.

(01:15:56):
Player empowerments needed, Guys need to get paid all that
because that's who we go to watch. But we've allowed
it to creep into being out of hand, and it's
seeping down into high school. And if you think you're
gonna be able to take player empowerment back? Good luck?

Speaker 7 (01:16:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Never, We've already we've already offered too much of the
dog one rope, and they're taking to go try to
take it all.

Speaker 6 (01:16:14):
Yeah, and we've got too much of it. Yeah, it won't.

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
It'll There's got to be a delineum will be able
to take it back, no doubt, There is no doubt.
All right, let's get into the eight o'clock hour. We
got to talk about the Houston Astros trading Kyle Tucker
to the Cubs.

Speaker 6 (01:16:27):
How are you feeling about it?

Speaker 4 (01:16:27):
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Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
Sean Salisbury.

Speaker 12 (01:17:00):
To USC troups, longtime friend Shown Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
Ryan Lima, go Lobos. This is the Sean Salsbury Show.

Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
Texans beat the Dolphins. They win the AFC South for
the second straight year. They clinched that yesterday after the
Colts lost to the Broncos. And then on Friday afternoon,
well we're going to talk about this hour, the Astros
traded Kyle Tucker to the Cubs in exchange for third

(01:17:30):
baseman Estoc Perettis, right hander Hayden was Nesky, and third
base prospect Cam Smith. Hayden was Nesky from right down
the road at sie Fair went to Sam Houston State,
Estock Perettas obviously been in the league for a couple
of years now, and then Cam Smith coming out of
Florida State. Uh, he jumped straight to the number one

(01:17:53):
prospect for the Astros, who is apparently from everything that
I read, this dude is humblie and.

Speaker 6 (01:18:00):
It is going to be a really good pro player
at some point.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
Yeah, it didn't take long did it become the number
one prospect in the Astros organization? What was he he just?
I mean, what was he numbers? What was he in there?

Speaker 14 (01:18:11):
Six?

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
They said, or six number one? Not bad, We'll take him.
It's a way to rebuild it. You see him on
the big league level this year? No, not this year,
you don't think so? No, Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:23):
No, he'll probably Uh he was drafted last year, has
already made it up to double A with the Cubs.
I would assume he'll start with double A. He'll probably
uh make his way up to Triple A at some point.
You know, Danny Brown likes to fast track a couple
of these guys. So they've got a good core.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Bryce Matthews being awfully quick jump already, Yeah, Shay Wickham,
Dezenzo Melton.

Speaker 4 (01:18:45):
Who knows what happens with Forrest Whitley. If he's going
to start in Triple A, ORF, they're going to keep
him up with the big league level. So there's a
good core now. But still the farm system still not
is bolstered, if you will, at as it once was.
But they're slowly getting back to it. But at the
end of the day, look, Kyle Tucker is now it's
the Chicago cub.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
Think about this after all. Think about when he came
up and guys that think about all the prospects they
have moved on from the Zach Grinkie trade to move
into catcher to uh were White Sox last year? Oh yeah,
Corey Lee think about all now. Now, think about the

(01:19:26):
prospects here that have moved on and players Bregman's you know,
more likely going to leave. Tucker's gone, and guess who's
still in the organization for force Willey. Think about the
I mean the struggles, the injuries, the weight loss, the
weight gain. Yeah, but and actually had some impressive moments
last year, right think about all that. He's still here. Yeah,

(01:19:53):
and players and prospects are playing elsewhere. It's amazing and
I hope it works out for him.

Speaker 14 (01:19:59):
I really do so.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
I got to replenish it. And I imagine sometimes before
you open your Christmas presents, Alex Bregman will probably be
playing baseball somewhere else. Oh yeah, I think so, or
at least signed to play baseball some more. That's That's
a classic?

Speaker 5 (01:20:19):
Is that?

Speaker 16 (01:20:19):
Is that?

Speaker 7 (01:20:19):
This?

Speaker 19 (01:20:20):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
This right here? Look is that the violin that.

Speaker 7 (01:20:24):
Ye look at Sean.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
You can do on a violate. Hit that again. Hit
that again.

Speaker 6 (01:20:31):
I'm gonna try it. I'm gonna try to give echo
one of Brian's moves.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Here we go. That does a lot to get hit.
It hits different, that, ain't it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:49):
I don't know, man, I don't know if that hits
or not. They traded Kyle Tucker. What was your reaction
when you saw the news Friday afternoon?

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
We were right. Yeah, had to happen, got good players
in return. Bummer, you said, my first one. That's a
bunch of I I get. I mean it really was
uh expected with the off season talk. No, I mean
quite frankly, it just happened a year before we expected

(01:21:24):
it to.

Speaker 6 (01:21:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Yeah, because you were You're nine, You had to get
something and of value and substance. You couldn't. You can't.
You could not wait till next offseason because you weren't
gonna be able to sign him. He wasn't coming back
here an average year, He's going to make more than Bregman.
If he had an average year next year, he was
going to make more than Bregman is this year. Yeah,

(01:21:47):
the more than Bregman is gonna make. So you weren't
gonna pay him. No, so go get something for him
while the emotion hurts. But guess what, it's pro sports man, right,
who's to say that the Cubs are Kyle Tucker's last stop?

Speaker 7 (01:22:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
Uh? Is that a sign and trade?

Speaker 9 (01:22:03):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
He Right as we sit today, the guy's are rental. Yeah, now,
won't you think about that?

Speaker 7 (01:22:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
Now, I think the Cub's probably wise enough to know.
I would hope and and then have money enough to
to keep him, but your your your bank on the
fact you can't keep more. You're getting him for one year.

Speaker 6 (01:22:19):
It's a rental.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
Yeah, and right now he controls that. Yeah, he doesn't
have to do anything. He's gonna go play baseball. He's
not he's not beholden to come back there hopefully for
the Cubs, and I know that he will. But so
you knew what was happening. Yeah, you knew it was happening.
So that talk just heated I didn't mean you know,
that talk just heaated up quicker than we expected when
the season ended.

Speaker 4 (01:22:39):
Yeah, seven seven the uh, that talk heated up real
quick as of last Monday when Dana Brown made the
comments about, oh, we'll take a look at everybody.

Speaker 6 (01:22:48):
Wait what remember when we said, well we'll take calls
on everybody said it like like when the.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
Smoke is when you could when you when you add
to the smoke and pour a little bit on it, right,
make a little bit. You know how when you you're
barbecue and a grill on a gasco and the grease
leaks in and you close your barbecue and you get
more smoke coming out of it, Well you added to
you get those juicy and you close that dog on
grill and a little more smokey. Well, guess what when
you heared it, what would have stopped it? If you

(01:23:12):
knew if if, if it wasn't true? Just said, are
you crazy? We're not trading Kyle Tucker. We're going to
play this out. Then we just said, oh, okay, but
when you say yeah, we're taking it on all players,
and Danny did it right. He basically Danny was transparent
enough tell us that they're working on moving Kyle Tucker immediately.
And if I'd have told you in September Kyle Tucker
was going to be moved before Alex Pregnant signed a contract,

(01:23:35):
you to look at me like I was nuts.

Speaker 6 (01:23:36):
Yeah, would say, where's a crack man?

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
There you go. Well, they found a crack and they
went and got him and got paid crazy and meaning
they got theirs and the Cubs got theirs. And the
truth is, right now, the Cubs win this. Yeah, I
mean they get the advantage of this, But who's to
say four years from now that it's it's not good
for the astros or quicker Hopefully that's yeah, hopefully the
current players that they want to impact him right now.

Speaker 6 (01:23:57):
Yeah, no doubt seven seven ninety jaw, what's going on?

Speaker 20 (01:24:03):
Really aggravated with all of this, brother. I was up
in Green Bay, Wisconsin when I first seen all of this,
dropping a load off up there, and I'm telling you,
I'm seeing visions of what happened when when McLean owned
the team started gutting it. I hope I'm we're not
going down that path, But I'm telling you, I'm just

(01:24:26):
I'm really aggravated with all of this. Two of the
two of my favorite players are going to be gone,
and there's no loyalty in sports anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:24:35):
Yah the almighty Yeah that ship sailed, my man.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
You know that, not from players to dot players or
management when it's everybody's going to do it helps them
get a He mean, you want to win, but in
the process, you're not going to do it at the
expense of losing money or having to pay too much
of it. You're right, that's and it's all the way
down into college. Hell, we got high school guys that'll
transfer three times before their senior year. It doesn't matter anymore.
Yeap doesn't exist.

Speaker 20 (01:24:57):
Well, you got you guys have a Mary Chris Us
and remember what it's about always and it's.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Yep, there you go. JDub, thanks man, I appreciate it.
Merry Christmas to you too as well. Yeah, I think
a lot of fans probably feel that way. I'm anxious
to see depending on what happens if it with Bregman loses.
When I say loses, we lose bregmant is when I met. Yes,
I'm anxious to see coming out of the shoot, depending
on what happens between with the Astros. You know, trades

(01:25:25):
are free agency between now and then, how people feel
coming right out of the shoot about the Astros. I
really am anxious to see the enthusiasm or lack thereof,
or is it a new refound energy even though you
lost players you love pregnantly. I'm wondering what side they're
going to lean to. We can discuss.

Speaker 4 (01:25:44):
I am, yeah, sure, that's that's that's that's interesting to
discuss because I don't I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
I don't either have no idea. Like John, he's excited,
he wanted to change. You think we can upgrade and
do that, and then you know, JDub, no loyalty's so
I wonder where it's gonna sit I think you're gonna
have all kinds of different verticals boom boom boom. But
I'm curious worth the enthusiasm is going to be between
now and then and when we start this season seven
one three, two one two five, seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:26:10):
How are you feeling about the trade Ashros fans, Kyle Tucker?
Now with the Cubs looking more and more likely that
the Ashros will not resign, Alex Bregman M A lot
of moving parts for the Ashles.

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Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
Buckle up. The Shawn Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 7 (01:27:42):
It's going to be a hell.

Speaker 6 (01:27:46):
Gary welcome in.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
Hey, good morning guys. Uh I got two quickies.

Speaker 21 (01:27:51):
If I could want Astros one Texans on the astros
uh Kyle Tucker being gone. Like y'all have stated throughout
before the break, we all knew was coming because everything's
about money.

Speaker 14 (01:28:01):
Now, it's about the cash.

Speaker 21 (01:28:04):
There's no loaalty anymore, even though none of these guys
could spend out the money they have in three of
their lifetimes. But it comes with the ego, and the
ego comes with this nature of the beast, comes with
being that there's nobody in that high position that's been.

Speaker 6 (01:28:19):
Coddled for a long long time.

Speaker 21 (01:28:21):
So they all got big egos. So it's not about
there's no loyalty with ego. I mean, without ego, there's loyalty,
but it's all about the cash now. The second thing
that I have to state is about the Texans. I
haven't heard you guys do it, and I hopefully don't
hear you because I serve the channels during commercials and everything,
and I can remember the last even back to Bill

(01:28:42):
O'Brien with the Texans. Everybody, not everybody, but so many people.

Speaker 14 (01:28:47):
I guess we're all spoiled.

Speaker 21 (01:28:48):
We're saying, gosh, well they only win in their division. Well, heck,
you got to win the division. You can go any
further unless there's a wild card. But you know, Bill
O'Brien won four out of six in a row divisions
and we just got spoiled, and people were counting that
as a negative. We don't, I know, we've got to
go further. We want to go further into the playoffs
and win the super Bowl. But it's not a it's

(01:29:10):
not a small thing to win your division. So let's
be happy they win their division. The more times they
do it, the better their chances are going to be
in the super Bowl. But anyway, I just it's just
my pet peeve. Well, they only well it's only a championship.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
That's all that.

Speaker 21 (01:29:22):
Well, that's that's pretty good. So that's kind of a
pet peeve of mine. So hopefully I don't hear that
too much in the upcoming days. But anyway, appreciate it, guys,
great show.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Yeah, gat a great point. And truth is how many
division winners do we have every year? Eight?

Speaker 21 (01:29:37):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:29:38):
Eight of them? Four in each conference? Yes, it's an
impressive thing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
And in truth, the way the Texans have played in
consistently this year and for them to still now they're
what nine and five ninety's who Texans? Texans? Yeah, I'm
doing the matter fourteen games. I am tripping nine and
five that that's they're already now with three games to go.

(01:30:03):
I mean, if they can steal one of these the
next two and then beat Tennessee, they've already bettered last year.
So it is true he is right. In order to
get to the Super well, they only made the playoffs. Well,
in order to get to the super Bowl, you do
got to make the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (01:30:16):
You do.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
So that's a good place to start. And the goal
at the beginning of the year is always to win
your division. Dominate your division. You know, have the best
record division, win your division, and then you work towards
home field advantage, and then you want to go win
a super Bowl. Now, will it be disappointing if it
stops at one game, Sure it will. But when people say, well,
we should have just hell, we should have just not

(01:30:38):
even made the playff if we're going to lose like that,
that's the dumbest that's the dumbest thought process ever. Players
don't think, oh, oh, we didn't get to the super Bowl,
so we might as well have just bailed out in
the first playoff game. No, to get there as an
honor and it takes a lot of hard work, and
it's hard to win in the league, as it's well
witnessed in this league. But the expectations the more you win,
the higher the expectations. But he is the one hundred

(01:30:59):
percent correct. It's no, it's no, it doesn't. Well, I
guess then that means that there's only eight. Then there's
probably that means there's twenty four teams in the league.
They're gonna be awfully miserable because they didn't win the division. Yeah. No,
it's a good start, right, but they got a lot
a lot to do. Who can be competitive? You gotta
win one to get to the.

Speaker 4 (01:31:18):
First things First that your division, which you did second
year in a row, yep, and figured out for the
rest of the way. You got Chiefs and you got
the Baltimore Ravens and you got the Titans. To improve
your seating if you can. If not, you get ready
to take on whoever. First things first, you gotta clinch
a playoff spot. And if you clinch your division, you
did it. I'm wrong of that, yes, sir, seven one

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three two one two five seven ninety Jordan, good morning, Hey,
good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
I guess I want you to call them middle aged.

Speaker 21 (01:31:48):
So I've had lots of bosses, and I've had lots
of subordinates, and uh, you know for subordinates, I've had
people come along.

Speaker 8 (01:31:55):
That I love.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
They've been great, stellar, and they need to move. I
can't hold him under me forever, as much as i'd
love to, as much as I value them.

Speaker 15 (01:32:07):
They got their.

Speaker 14 (01:32:08):
Life and they've got to shine, and I've got to
let them shine.

Speaker 12 (01:32:11):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
It's a great point, Jordan, that's a great, great point.
We yeah, you know yet the other side, Yeah, well
we let him shine. I think he's talking about the
astros and the players, right, and yeah, every player in
the league looks forward to, you know, well, win a championship,
getting paid, you know what. They all want that one
go at free agency if you're if you're a top
notch player, because sometimes if you're a free agent, you

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know what that means, somebody cuts you. But if you're
a free agent, gone through the process and you're a
hell of a player, the players earned that right to
do what they want to do. Now, Kyle Tucker with
Bregman's earned it. So you're going to test it. Same
thing Tucker was gonna test it and he will have
earned it. And he's exactly right when you talk about
as a head coach when it comes to the coaching industry,
you don't think you think Dan Campbell wants to lose

(01:32:56):
Ben Ben Johnson, Well he doesn't. But you know what
it tells me, Dan Campbell's done it right. He's taking
his leadership and made sure he hired the right guys
to go do it, and go and get them ready
to go do it, and then you do the next guy. Yeah,
great leaders can sustain that, Saban Belichie.

Speaker 17 (01:33:12):
They just do.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
And they may not go on and be great coaches
like that guy, but that's that's what you do. And
as a CEO or a guy who's running a company
and have people working, you know, you're you're their subordinate.
Your job is to make them good. When has it worked?
These the guys who are the interns or the pas
are now running Big ten Network or somewhere else and
you're like, and I work with that person when they're

(01:33:33):
getting scripts for you, yea for the sports center anchor
or cutting tape for you, and now they're the boss,
and you know what, they deserve it because they've earned it. Yeah,
And that's the whole pecking order, and that's good leadership.

Speaker 7 (01:33:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:33:44):
And I think when it comes to Kyle Tucker being traded,
King Tuck, thank you, King of the North.

Speaker 4 (01:33:51):
Now he's with the Cubs, Blummer. I think the thing
that bothers me the most is how we got to
this point. And it goes back to we were talking
about the model, right, that was the Astro, the Astros.
It was a big talk about. Uh, it was a
big topic last week for us. Is the model right.
Jim Crane has been very successful as the owner of

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the Astros, but he has not given out a contract
past six years. The highest he's ever given out is
one hundred and fifty one million for jose Al twove
back in twenty eighteen. Now rumored, reportedly there's a table,
there's an offer on the table for Alex Bregman one
hundred and fifty six.

Speaker 6 (01:34:24):
He's not gonna take it. That's the highest he's you know,
the contract, right.

Speaker 4 (01:34:27):
So I look at how we got here, meaning the Astros,
and it's frustrating because you win a World Series in
twenty twenty two and you fire your or you quote
unquote mutually part ways with your general manager. In James Click,
who did some really good things here, meticulous small time

(01:34:49):
moves that have already paid off. Philm Maiton was pretty
damn good here. He got him in a trade along
with Jiner Diez for Miles Straw. That's just one trade.
There's a the trades that he made at the trade
deadline that have helped this team. Okay, so you fire him,
you put out a statement, meaning Jeff Bagwell, where you
take a shot at him and say game is played
by humans not computers because James Click was following the

(01:35:12):
model that was proven to work game. Excuse me year after.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
Jeff Luno, Jeff Luno, which everybody craves Jeff Luno.

Speaker 6 (01:35:21):
Right, that's worked every year. Okay, so that's step one.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
I actually think that I think I think the current
GM is doing a.

Speaker 6 (01:35:27):
Hell of a job.

Speaker 4 (01:35:27):
I think I think it's unfair to criticize him as
when it comes to mind, is there a little bit
of criticism for him? Of course, maybe maybe he's a
little too transparent with us, Right.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
I love it. You're like, oh yeah, tell us, I'd
love it. And he's great. But I can tell you
this with Dana and I want you to finish that
because you're making some unbelievable points. Is that his hands
are tight, but he he knows how to scout talent.
That's where he cut. He understands how to get talent.
He went and got Kakuchu and every said, what the
hell are you doing? Look how good he was five

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and one and was in position to win ten of them.

Speaker 4 (01:36:01):
Yeah, okay, So I think there's there's that, and then
there's also when you didn't have a GM, you had
Jeff Bagwell stepping in front of Mike's helping out make
these deals of Raffael Montero terrible contract that's still on
the books and he's not even on the damn team.

Speaker 6 (01:36:16):
He was DFAD. And then Joseah Bray you we know
that whole situation.

Speaker 4 (01:36:20):
Two dead money contracts which are awful, and that hindered
your franchise.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
And here's the one weakness about you. And I hold
mister Crane in the highest regard. Do you I think
he's done a great job, Ques, Do you agree with
his full model or not? He wins and he's well respected. Yes,
but he went against see him allowing Jeff Baggle to
make those decisions win against what he does is what
he does best. The model he went instead of the

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analytics one, he went all feel remember it's not computers,
it's it's humans, right right, And he allowed a guy
to go out and get it. If you were a
JU put it this way. I Jeff Baggle was a
full time GM, you'd have fired him. Yes, you would
have those decisions. You would have fired him. So with that,
it's so odd. It went from man, this is how
we built it to you go get James Click, who
thought a lot like Jeff Luno, Ivy League, educated numbers understood,

(01:37:11):
wasn't as transparent, but he was really good on our show.
It was great to us. Then it came down to
was it a difference of opinion or just money? I
think James Click deserved to pay raise at the time. Yes,
Now he'll do good things. And we got Dana Brown
and hell he's done some you know, we can go
through some moves that Dana Brown's made. He wanted jan
Or Dinas the future thedeas he got him and guess

(01:37:32):
what it was the right move over Corey Lee period.

Speaker 7 (01:37:35):
It just was.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
And you want Kakuchi now because it was a rental.
The question is now Why didn't Dana bring it back?
Were you sure that with the money, Dana was going
to be able to have that money to bring it back.

Speaker 6 (01:37:45):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Remember, when it comes to this model, you got to
check with somebody. You don't have an opening this You're
not in Yankee Dodge with a guy. You make the move,
and the owner today all thumb it up. Hey, you
spend all their money. It's okay, let's go get another championship.
You're following the model. Jeff Baggle didn't follow the model.
His two acquisitions weren't not good. So with this data,
Brown's hands are tied when it comes to the money, right,
you can only go so far. Right if it give

(01:38:07):
you a six cylinders and you want twelve, what are
you going to do? Whether you like the model or not.
And I respect the model, but at some point in time,
if you keep losing, and that's why this is the
smart trade. If you're not going to under the model,
if you're not going to sign Kyle Tucker, you've got
to trade him.

Speaker 4 (01:38:21):
Yeah, and I think it was the right move. Yeah,
it was get what you can because you weren't gonna
sign him. Seven one three, two, one two five seven
and we'll get backut to the phone lines. We'll continue
to talk about the Astros trading Kyle Tucker next.

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
But the Shawn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
No, did you did you say that?

Speaker 6 (01:38:42):
Tripley said that. I'm just making sure. Yeah, straight, Bullet's Tripley.
It's all right. I haven't said nothing, but that's what. Yes, insane.
They stuck to Todd. What's going on?

Speaker 7 (01:38:52):
Todd? Boy?

Speaker 9 (01:38:54):
Guys, I just wanted to add a couple of things
about Crane in the GM situation. It really surprises me
at how many people are get so down on Crane
and how many people are so down on on Brown
already and the whole thing Click thing, you know, Click
was offered an extension with a little bit of a raise.

(01:39:15):
It was only a year, but I mean he turned
it down, and then Basta's boss, that's why he got fired.
I mean, you can't.

Speaker 19 (01:39:22):
You can't do that and expect to keep a job.

Speaker 7 (01:39:24):
You know.

Speaker 19 (01:39:26):
So, I know Crane and.

Speaker 9 (01:39:27):
Him weren't getting along, but the guy was given an
opportunity to stay and he didn't want to. There's egos
that play there, but you know, uh, Brown has been
in my opinion, I think really good.

Speaker 19 (01:39:39):
His drafts have been solid. He hasn't done anything. You know, stupid.

Speaker 9 (01:39:45):
I know everybody or not everybody, but so many fans
want us to go out and spend those huge contracts
like they're seeing. But when you go back and look
at all the players that we've lost in the contracts they've.

Speaker 19 (01:39:56):
Gotten, none of them have gotten close to being wor
those contracts.

Speaker 4 (01:40:01):
To let me ask you a question. Let me let
me ask you a question real quick on your James
Click comment. Do you mind if I ask what you
do for a living?

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
Work in healthcare?

Speaker 6 (01:40:10):
Okay? So you're in healthcare? Are you a boss by chance?
Or a manager? General manager?

Speaker 5 (01:40:15):
You are?

Speaker 6 (01:40:17):
Okay? So you report to a higher up right to
a VP, I'm assuming correct. Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:40:22):
So I'm just trying to put it in perspective and
play devil's advocate. I thought James Click did a lot
of really good things here. There was reports in that
twenty twenty two season when they were on their way
to winning a World Series that him and Jeff Bagwell
and James Jim Crane did not see eye to eye
on certain things. So I'm just trying to put it
in your line of work. If you and your VP
are not seeing eye to eye. There's rumors that they're

(01:40:43):
gonna they're gonna let you go, and then they come
back and they kind of just, ah, I know, we
just won the twenty twenty World Series, James click. But
here's just a one year deal. Does that give you
a lot of confidence as an employee that they think
highly of you?

Speaker 19 (01:40:57):
It depends on how you want to look at it,
how much you like that, because.

Speaker 6 (01:41:00):
Yeah, but like in the big.

Speaker 5 (01:41:06):
Yeah, you can let yourself feel insulted or you can
look at it's okay, I've got an opportunity to improve things.
I've got an opportunity to change their mind. I mean
it goes both ways, right, and and you know, I
get it. You know, we feel like we accomplished.

Speaker 4 (01:41:22):
All this, but a year, a one year extension after
winning the World Series, that to me, that's a slap
in the face to mine to what I've done usually unprecedented.

Speaker 7 (01:41:30):
Yes, and it's and it's.

Speaker 9 (01:41:32):
It's up to it's it's always up to the employee
to decide how they want to take that. Correct I mean,
I think we've all been in similar situations, right, and
I feel like we're we're.

Speaker 19 (01:41:41):
Worth more, and we didn't get it.

Speaker 9 (01:41:43):
But I just, uh, you know, if you're not getting
along with your boss, you're you'ren borrow time to begin with,
so you know, And it's not like he wasn't given
a chance though.

Speaker 5 (01:41:55):
He was given an opportunity. If you wanted to to.

Speaker 9 (01:41:57):
Try to work on that relationships, relationship ship and do more,
he had the opportunity, and but he passed on it.

Speaker 5 (01:42:04):
And that's and that's fine.

Speaker 9 (01:42:05):
There's no there's nothing wrong on either side for that.
In my opinion. If it wasn't working out, it wasn't
working out.

Speaker 16 (01:42:12):
But but the.

Speaker 9 (01:42:15):
I hate is a strong word, but the hate that
Crane gets for everything since then still surprises me. I mean,
he he signed, he overpaid for a reliever, he got
a first base, and that I think almost everybody agreed
at the time was a good idea. It just didn't
work out. I mean, nobody expected to bring you to

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collapse as completely as he has. I you know, that's
that's that's all he did. The only two bad things
Crane really has done, and they were short term contracts.

Speaker 19 (01:42:47):
So I really feel like people need.

Speaker 9 (01:42:49):
To give the ones that are complaining.

Speaker 7 (01:42:51):
I'm saying y'all.

Speaker 9 (01:42:52):
Just people in general give him a little bit better
benefit of the doubt for what all he's done, and
just give him a little bit of time to kind
of reassess and rebuild a little bit, not rebuilt, retool,
I would say, what they're doing, because they seem.

Speaker 19 (01:43:07):
Like they have a plan.

Speaker 7 (01:43:08):
Just we just got to stick with it.

Speaker 6 (01:43:10):
Good stuff, Todd. We appreciate the UH. I appreciate it
right there.

Speaker 4 (01:43:14):
So I think I agree with him on the fact
that people are a little too they over criticize Jim
Crane as an owner.

Speaker 6 (01:43:22):
He's done tremendous things here. There's tremendous that they've had.
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
You still reserve the right to criticize certain moves, but
the overall, UH, the overall product that they put on
the field and what they've done in production. Not only
doesn't he deserve criticism, he's been one of the best
owners in sports the last decade. Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 6 (01:43:43):
Success, There's no question if you're going by success.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
You may like the model, some do, some don't, But
the models worked now can't continue to sustain Is there
sustainability in this? If you keep losing them, there's sustainability
and making sure you get players before free agent walks
and don't get anything for him other than a you know,
a compensatory pick. Yeah, so I can tell you what
you want to be, Jim cranor would you rather be

(01:44:05):
the Dodgers in the last ten years. Yeah, you'd rather
be Jim Crane, Sure you would. Now you'd like to
spend some of their money. Yeah, but you get the point, right, Yeah?
And I think you know he brought up the the
jose A braw contract. When they signed jose A bra You,
I thought, damn, this is a hell of a signing.
And then I saw the money come out and I'm like, ugh,

(01:44:26):
that's a lot for an aging first baseman. Even though
I was still pumped because his numbers he was, dude,
you look at his numbers. He was unbelievable. But in
Chicago he started to decline a little bit. And that's
where I get.

Speaker 4 (01:44:36):
I get a little bit nervous about if they do
go and get Nolan Aroonato because it's kind of the
same thing aging. But he you know, if you get
the offensive bat like we've seen from him before, you
know you're gonna get the defensive side of it. But
if you get the offensive side of it. Wow, it's
a win win, but there's that aging factor you always
say it sean father time catches up to everybody. So
I think the money aspect of Montero and a Braid

(01:45:00):
is what frustrates me. And the fact that, look, yes,
did James James click uh turned down a one year offer,
Absolutely he did, but a one year offer after you
won the World Series. Obviously something wasn't clicking and no
pun intended wasn't clicking between him.

Speaker 6 (01:45:14):
Jeff Bagwell who had a heavy SAT at the time,
and Uh the owner James Jim Crane.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
The only way you turned out a seven figure offer
even one when you're not if you feel disrespected yea,
or there's a better offer out there, which there wasn't. Right,
That's my point, So you could then then what's then?
What was the obvious responses? I deserved more? Yeah, it happens.

Speaker 6 (01:45:34):
Yeah, put some respect on my name. Damn right? Baby?
Is that baby or is it not? It's birdman?

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
Ye know, I'm just I'm just asking for you to
put some respect on his name. That's all I care about.

Speaker 6 (01:45:45):
And it's spelled s R E s P E C
k oh okay, respect respect. Yeah, yeah, it's it's also
called uh l I g m a ligma? Yeah, what
do you want me to do?

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
What would you like to do? Why do you gotta
go ligma?

Speaker 7 (01:46:04):
Right now?

Speaker 6 (01:46:04):
That hurts ligma on somebody. Yeah, that's how you spell that.

Speaker 15 (01:46:09):
Dog.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
I feel you. What happened to you?

Speaker 14 (01:46:13):
Then you?

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
Okay? Yeah, you're a PTSD. Uh yeah, I actually I do. Yeah, yeah,
mytili that all the time. PTSD what uh YEAHSD.

Speaker 4 (01:46:25):
Yeah seven one three two one two five seven ninety
phone line starting lineup. As we continue to talk about
this situation Kyle Tucker being traded to the Cubs. Also,
the Astros reportedly in heavy pursuit of Nolan Aeronauta will
discuss an next sports suck seven to eighty.

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Speaker 3 (01:47:12):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (01:47:15):
Randa, what's going on?

Speaker 14 (01:47:17):
Sure know how to treat you right?

Speaker 2 (01:47:19):
Hit the one, hit the let's go, let's go, let's go.

Speaker 16 (01:47:23):
Man.

Speaker 22 (01:47:24):
You guys made some great punts this morning.

Speaker 10 (01:47:26):
Uh.

Speaker 22 (01:47:27):
You know they've been critical of Jim Crane. Uh, you know,
he know what it's like to win, and he know
what he know what it's like to lose, and he
know what it's like to win because he come in
with a losing team. So give him an opportunity not
to rebuild, but to move forward. And and see it's
it's it's like a relationship. If you're in a relationship

(01:47:49):
and and and and you end up getting your heart broken.
So we have a lot of fans that's in a
relationship with the Astros instead of just being fans.

Speaker 14 (01:47:57):
That's why their heartsts are broken.

Speaker 22 (01:47:59):
And not only that that, Uh, I won't Tucker. I
wanted Tucker and my guy breaking into State.

Speaker 8 (01:48:06):
But it's a business.

Speaker 14 (01:48:08):
Lords don't have anything to do with it.

Speaker 22 (01:48:11):
Give this club an opportunity to make some moves so
we can move forward and get back on page getting
another championship. Oh we're not the new Oakland A's so
so don't forget that. We'll be better than what you
think this year. And I'd like to say this, Joe
Biden didn't do but one thing for the United States.

(01:48:33):
For hisself, he didn't do anything for the United States
of America. The only thing he did was bought a
part of his son and that's the only thing I
see him do and that's nothing to me.

Speaker 7 (01:48:44):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:48:45):
Appreciated Randall, Like Randall getting a little politics in there
at the end.

Speaker 1 (01:48:49):
Mary Christmas Baby.

Speaker 6 (01:48:52):
I don't think you're getting a lot of argument from him. No,
yeah you're not. Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
Randall had a good voice too. We got some people
that are surprising. They they'll they'll throw it in here
and they can carry a tune, yea. How about you
can you tune a fish? Well, you can tune a piano,
but you can't tune a fish. You don't know anything
about that album coming. We talked about you know, we
talked about it a million times, well maybe not quite
a million, maybe two.

Speaker 6 (01:49:18):
Times, but it's probably about three. Yeah, yep, that was
a third right there.

Speaker 4 (01:49:22):
Three better than zero because you never go broke taking
a profit. Stuck to Bill, what's up?

Speaker 7 (01:49:28):
Bill?

Speaker 23 (01:49:30):
Thanks guys, We appreciate the warm up. I've been waiting
all morning getting up the nerve to call because if
the Tucker thing concerns me, I'm a Cub fan. For
those who don't know, lifetime Cub fan, you use the
word plan when it comes to By the way, you're
gonna like Hayden wiz Nesky and Paradis never really got
a measurement on him because he wouldn't. There were the
Cubs very long. You'll like the with Nesky kids a picture.

(01:49:52):
I guarantee that the Astros have a plan. That's my
fear about this whole thing with my team, because the
Cubs never have a plant.

Speaker 14 (01:50:03):
They try stuff like this and by like, is.

Speaker 6 (01:50:06):
This a one year good deal?

Speaker 14 (01:50:07):
Is he gonna Are they gonna be able to sign him?
Is this a rent?

Speaker 23 (01:50:10):
Is this are we gonna just play? We're gonna lose Ballinger.
Ask me this time next year how I feel about
the Tucker trade. Right now, I'm just skeptical. I love
the talent, We love seeing him out there and in
the blue white and in the red and right field,
but how long is he gonna.

Speaker 14 (01:50:27):
Be standing out there?

Speaker 6 (01:50:28):
You know?

Speaker 23 (01:50:29):
Even my five year old grandson taking them to preschool today, says,
are you excited about Tucker going to the Astros?

Speaker 2 (01:50:36):
He knows baseball?

Speaker 23 (01:50:38):
I said, yeah, kind of. He says, it's okay, he'll
be there a couple of years and he'll come back
to Houston.

Speaker 14 (01:50:43):
Okay, go you heard it here, folks, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
R Well, Bill, I got news for you.

Speaker 23 (01:50:50):
If that did Jeff pass and tell him to kiss
my butt.

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
Hey, Bill, I got news for you now. I don't
know if the Cubs are gonna give him three fifty
to four hundred million, because that's what they're in for,
more than if he plays m VP Baseball next year.
But one place he's not coming back. I love your grandson,
but guess where he's not coming back the same reason,
the same reason that he left is trained because they
go pay him here. So that's it. But but at

(01:51:15):
least on the if you knew it was an eight
year deal or ten years on, you're probably ecstatic, right Bill,
it's see it's it's the rental that concerns you, correct, right, yeah, I.

Speaker 14 (01:51:25):
Just want to know what's what's the plan?

Speaker 11 (01:51:27):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
Where is the plan?

Speaker 23 (01:51:29):
Because we're not gonna this time next year, we're not
gonna have We're not gonna this time next week. We're
not gonna have Bellinger. He's going somewhere. They're gonna ship
him out. It's okay, we lost Bellinger. We just gave
away some more talent off the field, and we're gonna
have Tucker for maybe how long, don't know. Anyhow, Astros
have a plan. At least I have confidence even by
six years being here in Houston. Astros have a plan.

Speaker 6 (01:51:52):
And that's my fear for my team.

Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
So anyway, good point.

Speaker 6 (01:51:56):
Appreciate you, Bill, whether they feel make.

Speaker 14 (01:51:58):
Me, make me feel good about this, got help me guys,
go Cubs.

Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
Hey, Bill, let me make you feel good. He's gonna
win the m v P in the National League and
he'll be playing right field for the Yankees a year after,
so suck it.

Speaker 6 (01:52:13):
No, I'm kidding. I actually am rooting for him to
stay there.

Speaker 7 (01:52:18):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:52:19):
I mean, you know, long suffering, but you got the
World Series. I hope for you guys that it's one
of those with the Cubs don't even wait, and they
signed him to that long term deal because they want
to make Because can you imagine what the fan base
is going to do? Bill, You guys been through a lot.
I know you got your World series, but can you
imagine if all of a sudden this did become a
rental they'd lose. But if they could, if they could
sign him early, what this would do for a little

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bit enthusiasm and for fans like you that are that
are passionate fans. I mean, honestly, it would change the
whole landscape for you.

Speaker 7 (01:52:48):
Sure would.

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But they're used.

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They're used to they're used.

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What do you say win today?

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Oh go comes go?

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That's wrong?

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What do you say, go Cubs go win today?

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Go sell wrong?

Speaker 5 (01:56:17):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:56:18):
That out?

Speaker 6 (01:56:20):
Kyle Tucker is now Chicago cub Who is King Tuck
of the North giving him that night Tuck of the
North because they're alwaysalking about the Cubs with the North Siders,
Chicago White Sox of the South Siders. He is now
King Tuck of the North, the wicked Witch of the North,
King Tuck of the North. You know, I've never seen

(01:56:41):
Wizard of Oz.

Speaker 2 (01:56:46):
You're kidding.

Speaker 6 (01:56:47):
No, heard the movies kind of overrated. I want you
to say that again. I have never seen the Wizard
of Oz.

Speaker 8 (01:56:56):
Tri belie.

Speaker 6 (01:56:56):
Have you seen the Wizard of Oz long time ago?

Speaker 2 (01:56:59):
Damn it?

Speaker 4 (01:57:00):
Yeah, I've never seen it. Didn't see when I was
a kid. And there are a bunch of weird sexual
inn windows and that thing too, so I'm all, you're
that guy now hey, and they're like a donkey hanging
by its neck in the background or some weird stuff.
I'm pretty sure there is. Look it up, man, dude,
I can find some and you and I talk. My
parents protected me.

Speaker 6 (01:57:22):
That's what you're goal with that. That's working.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
No, okay, listen, I've never seen I'm trying to put
respect on your name.

Speaker 6 (01:57:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:57:32):
I always put respect on your name until you talk
about things you haven't seen. You never seen ward and
just just for the sheer, La is sitting around the
house watching Judy Garland and Wizard of Oz.

Speaker 4 (01:57:41):
I'd rather watch the Laman. Did you watch the episode
last night? Wait till tonight? I didn't watch.

Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
I was I was actually watching some football and I
had another movie I was finishing up.

Speaker 6 (01:57:51):
Did you have you seen the episode before that? We've
seen them all up until this one.

Speaker 2 (01:57:55):
Okay, so where Cooper gets Coop Cooper, Cooper gets beat
up in the Cooper got beat up up and okay, well,
this episode is the best one so far. And they
left him, they left him hanging. That's the last one.
This one is Cooper and Land.

Speaker 6 (01:58:08):
Man, he's our quarterbacks there, Norris, not Cooper. Well, it's
not far from there, my western Carthy. Keep him as
the head coach. Wait, let's get don't bear the lead. Yes,
I've never seen Wizard of Oz.

Speaker 2 (01:58:21):
Mm hmmm mm hmmm. I think a lot of people
just pulled their car and said, just for the sheer
saying you've seen Wizard of Oz.

Speaker 6 (01:58:29):
Never seen it?

Speaker 2 (01:58:30):
You have no idea Judy Garland, no, no, none of them.
You don't know anything about the wicked Wish of the North. No,
you don't know about the Cowardly Lion.

Speaker 6 (01:58:39):
I mean, I know about the Cowards.

Speaker 5 (01:58:42):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:58:44):
Have you ever heard of Dorothy?

Speaker 4 (01:58:49):
When when I think Dorothy, I think of the Tornado
the movie Twister, Dorothy seven whatever, Dorothy.

Speaker 2 (01:58:59):
Well, there's a there's a there's kind of the tornado goes.
It's that's Dorothy and Wizard of Oz. Okay, okay, that's
they got that. That that scene where the little hut
goes in the air of the house. Yeah, well that's
that's what happens in Twister. But Wizard of Oz would
before Twister, right, I know that.

Speaker 9 (01:59:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:59:18):
Judy Garland's not twelve right now? Okay, Judy Garland, she
plays Dorothy. Yeah, do you know who Judy Garland is? No,
let me google her. Hang on Royalty, ask who Judy Garland.
Find out who her daughter is. Let's see, okay, Lizzy
Garland and Lorna.

Speaker 2 (01:59:40):
Find out who the Garland. Did you just do that?
That's that's royalty.

Speaker 6 (01:59:43):
Judy Garland children, who are they do?

Speaker 2 (01:59:49):
Judy Garland?

Speaker 6 (01:59:50):
Liza Minelli?

Speaker 2 (01:59:50):
Thank you?

Speaker 6 (01:59:51):
Okay?

Speaker 11 (01:59:52):
You know she is?

Speaker 2 (01:59:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:59:53):
Yeah, yeah, she was born in forty six. That's do
you know who Liza Minelli is? Truthful?

Speaker 9 (01:59:57):
Do?

Speaker 7 (01:59:57):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:59:58):
What she looked like?

Speaker 6 (02:00:00):
She is Brunette. Oh you're looking at her right there?
Have you look me in the face?

Speaker 7 (02:00:03):
Now?

Speaker 2 (02:00:03):
I know you don't know what you do? I do?

Speaker 6 (02:00:06):
Yeah? She was in what the what's the movie? New York,
New York?

Speaker 7 (02:00:08):
Right?

Speaker 14 (02:00:10):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (02:00:10):
Yeah, look there it is right there? Check it out.

Speaker 2 (02:00:11):
Yeah, I know line is okay, Well, she's been in
a lot of movies. Do you think she's she's royalty? Okay,
Judy Garland was her mom to you? But if you've
not seen her while you're googling it, if I said
Eliza Minelli, would you know who she is? The truth?

Speaker 6 (02:00:23):
You've never seen Wizard of Oz?

Speaker 22 (02:00:27):
No?

Speaker 14 (02:00:27):
Do you do?

Speaker 7 (02:00:28):
You know?

Speaker 2 (02:00:28):
Have to sing the song?

Speaker 6 (02:00:29):
No, we're off to see the Wizard. You know the
cut the Wonderful Wizard of Oz.

Speaker 2 (02:00:35):
We hear it is because if ever there, if ever
a wiz there was, the Wizard of Oz is one.
Because you've never seen it. I feel bad for you.
You really cut a lot of people deep this one?

Speaker 14 (02:00:49):
Did it?

Speaker 2 (02:00:49):
I'm done?

Speaker 7 (02:00:50):
Well?

Speaker 6 (02:00:50):
What else was she in?

Speaker 2 (02:00:51):
What do they say? Dead?

Speaker 21 (02:00:53):
No?

Speaker 6 (02:00:53):
That's nah, that's draumatic.

Speaker 2 (02:00:55):
And you don't know who Judy Garland is, that's that's
It doesn't matter why I wasn't born back, well neither
was I.

Speaker 6 (02:00:59):
Okay, Oh check that out, dude. She was in uh yeah,
a lot of movies. Oh yeah, she's she's uh she's
Hollywood Royalty. But okay, I to know that she was
in the oh and Ohio came out no six.

Speaker 2 (02:01:10):
Oh I'm sure you saw that too.

Speaker 6 (02:01:12):
Yeah, okay, absolutely not to stalk to Clay. Let's talk astros.
What's up, Clay?

Speaker 16 (02:01:17):
Oh, good morning, Merry Christmas. I'm not disappointed about Kyle
Tucker because, uh, if you look at last year, uh,
I think he was already thinking of moving on at
that time because what was it. He had a hang nail. No,
I don't want to be sarcastic. He had some kind

(02:01:40):
of injury that he couldn't play. But uh, anyway, no,
he's moving on and that's okay. But I will think
about what you said over here, Sean. I think baseball
the same way as the NBA. It's they're playing down
to the level of I mean ever since Houston was

(02:02:01):
dumped in the West, So they're going to play according
to the Western Division, which is, in my opinion, the
worst division in baseball. So they're going to be competing
with the Sailors and with the Angels, and I don't know,
is it Sacramento or is it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:21):
You know, the best Vegas Las Vegas as yet Las Vegas.

Speaker 16 (02:02:27):
But I don't know why they don't just add Tampa
Bay since they don't have a place to stay either,
So hey, why don't they just baseball add Tampa Bay
to the division and it could be the also.

Speaker 2 (02:02:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 16 (02:02:39):
I'm just disappointed. I don't understand. I never have why
Houston would play in a division that's basically in other times.
Maybe they could do like college base college football. The
Yankees could now be placed in the Western Division and
the Dodgers could move to THEE out of no I

(02:03:02):
know what you mean, but.

Speaker 2 (02:03:03):
They don't make a lot of common sense. There's not
a lot of common sense there. And all the rule
changes are they're they're in danger of losing some good
fans if they're not careful because some of the rule
changes are uh are pathetic. There's no they're making it
a gimmick and this is a great game that they're
trying to do everything they can to make us laugh
at it, not with it, and that's a problem. Right,
good stuff, appreciate you. Thank you, Clay. Let's talk to Tony. Tony,

(02:03:27):
what's happening?

Speaker 14 (02:03:29):
Good morning, fellas. The Tucker trade, that's that's that's what's
on everybody's mind right now. Listen, they got what they
could get for him at this point. They do have
a plan this this Cubs fan, he's right.

Speaker 2 (02:03:44):
They have a plan.

Speaker 14 (02:03:45):
Whether it works out or not, that's a different story.
But uh, the camp Smith, whether I think they're looking
at him to take over third base in twenty six
about that time, the catcher maybe you know, they're going
to go young, fellas, they're going to go young. They're
going to spend them money. They're gonna go They're gonna
spend the money where they need to spend the money.
The next one is Valdez. What do you do with Valdez?

(02:04:06):
Is very valuable, fellas, he could he's he's the last
ship we got for this cycle. And I wouldn't be
surprised if he's not moved this offseason as well. They're
gonna go young, They've got some you know, I would
give Jacob Melton every opportunity to take that center field job.

Speaker 2 (02:04:24):
Would you would you move? Would you move? Would you
move fromber.

Speaker 14 (02:04:30):
If I got the right offer, Sean, I would, Yeah,
I would.

Speaker 2 (02:04:33):
I think a lot of people feel that way.

Speaker 14 (02:04:35):
You're gonna be up against the same thing next year.
Left handed pitching is very valuable in.

Speaker 2 (02:04:39):
This game, especially successful success successful ones. And he's pretty
damn good.

Speaker 7 (02:04:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (02:04:45):
Now, if you wait till the till the deadline or
till next off season, you're not going to get the
haul that you would right now. Teams that are looking
to build their club for twenty five. So if you're
thinking about trading, now is the time to do it.

Speaker 2 (02:04:56):
I'd like to keep him.

Speaker 14 (02:04:58):
But you know, this is a bit business man. This
this is about winning and they want to continue to win.
And I think they have a plan. Uh this Cam Smith,
we don't know. He's he's a prospect, that's what they
call him.

Speaker 7 (02:05:09):
Prospects.

Speaker 14 (02:05:09):
They're they're they're not players until they're till they're proven.
But I would give j Meltimer every chance to play
center field. I would play Dias at first base as
much as I could this spring and give him some
time over there. If they're not gonna address that that position,
I don't think they should. I think that's it's it's
another it's it's another dry hole. Just just plug that position.

(02:05:30):
Don't go out and sign Aeronauto at third base for
twenty something million a year. Plug that hole until we
can fill it. Because if you don't, we're gonna you're gonna.
If you don't a couple of years, three or four years,
we're gonna be the Pittsburgh Pirates seven or eight years ago.
And the ballpark. And what he's really afraid of is
that ballpark is gonna dry up. And this, you know

(02:05:51):
what I mean, this this run and it doesn't have
to happen. If they'll just if they'll just proceed with
caution on certain players, and they're gonna have to give
some of these young players a chance. They're gonna have
to let him prove themselves. And if they if they
prove themselves, then you work them into the end of
the end of the equation. If you don't, you move them.

Speaker 2 (02:06:08):
And they're gonna have to let him play through some
slumps and stuff which young players go through. You're gonna
have to let him fight through that.

Speaker 14 (02:06:13):
Melton. If you give Jacob Melton a chance, maybe even
platoon him with with Myers, hit him playing against the righties,
left his platoons early in the season. If he struggles,
stick with him.

Speaker 9 (02:06:24):
Man.

Speaker 14 (02:06:24):
The kids a player, and he's got speed, he's got
he's a he's a he's a five tool player. Whether
he's gonna be a great major leaguer, I don't know when.
Nobody knows these things. But you're gonna have to take
some You're gonna have to have some some some confidence
in these young players. And because you know what, nobody
thought that that the picture of the young pitcher was

(02:06:44):
gonna turn it around last year, and he did because
they stayed with him. Man, they let him work through
his problem Major leagues. Playing Playing in the big leagues
ain't easy. Man, If it was everybody do it, amen, Uh,
it take It takes young players of time to figure
it out. So so everybody needs to just calm down.
The last ship we got is as you know as nowadays,
that's that's obvious. But there's enough talent on this roster

(02:07:07):
to win this division. And then once you get into
once you get into postseason, it's it's a totally different animal.
Let's put another let's put another ring up, man, and
and and keep this thing going. It doesn't have to end.

Speaker 4 (02:07:18):
It doesn't have to end appreciate that the call. Tony,
I got a better idea. You know, we talked about
Melton getting some time and platooning with Jake Myers, or
you just trade Jake Myers.

Speaker 6 (02:07:28):
Hmm. I'm good with that.

Speaker 2 (02:07:29):
Clear of the path. Yes, I'm looking at the upside.
I think an average Jacob Melton is probably probably gonna
do what Chris Chris Myers, what what Jake Myers is
going to do?

Speaker 6 (02:07:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:07:45):
At yes, potential, does that makes sense? I think you
have to just throw guys out there at times and
have that kind of tools and let them fight through
the tough stuff and prove that they belong in the
everyday lineup.

Speaker 7 (02:07:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:07:59):
Dana Brown spoke about several different things to the media
on a zoom call on Friday. What's the latest between
the Astros and Alex Bregman. We will discuss that next
right here on Sports Talk seven to eighty.

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Will you ever notice every time I try to get
Sean on that the boyfriend thing, he just fires one
right back at me.

Speaker 6 (02:09:03):
He's always like, what do you mean again?

Speaker 2 (02:09:05):
I mean I could either confirm, well, I could confirm
just that tonight confirm. Oh god, we are stupid. I'm
all welcoming. I'm welcome to a point talking about man
and that ain't one of them. But I do play

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along with your you know, with your with our stupidity
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Speaker 14 (02:09:42):
People are.

Speaker 2 (02:09:46):
No, that's okay, much respect respect?

Speaker 6 (02:09:49):
You said, Look it's not.

Speaker 2 (02:09:53):
If somebody is gay, they're gay, right, Yeah, there's nothing
that's not respectful. No, that's not What are you supposed
to say that person that thinks different than you?

Speaker 6 (02:10:04):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not. I mean I think like you,
but I don't think different than you.

Speaker 2 (02:10:09):
But I think different maybe than some others. But it's okay,
it's all right, And there's nothing wrong with saying, oh that, yeah,
they're gay.

Speaker 6 (02:10:16):
That's okay, Right, that's all right. I mean, it's well,
it's it's okay. Yeah, it's right.

Speaker 2 (02:10:23):
Everybody has their preference. From my preference is, you know,
probably not to be gay. But that's okay, that's okay.
But I but I say no to be gay? Right
for me?

Speaker 6 (02:10:34):
Broadcast for me?

Speaker 14 (02:10:35):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:10:36):
Great, there you go, got a really good broadcast. Former
Tiger woulds teammate making college at Stanford. But no really
he was a golfer, yes, and a very good collegiate one.
Now he's a broadcaster on NBC. Does a nice job.
I think it's NBC. So no, you're when you're like,
are you allowed to say? Of course you are? His
name and O T A H.

Speaker 6 (02:10:54):
Yeah, and his last name is b. E. G A
Y noda.

Speaker 2 (02:10:57):
The gay gay, Yes, no, it's the gay. Okay to
be gay, okay, but gay.

Speaker 5 (02:11:06):
Here.

Speaker 2 (02:11:06):
But you're like screat dribble. Did you see him, Sean?
You know you joke Sean? He allowed to say gay. Yeah,
the gay it's okay.

Speaker 6 (02:11:14):
I'd say, it's not like why you're gay.

Speaker 2 (02:11:16):
Yeah, people are. Look there's gay people out there. That's okay.
See if I say, I mean you could be gay,
you could be merry or you can be gay.

Speaker 6 (02:11:23):
Yeah, you can do whatever you want real quick before again,
that's what you're uh, what's his name? Travis Hunter?

Speaker 4 (02:11:31):
Obviously, he won the Heisman on Saturday Nights fourteen votes.

Speaker 2 (02:11:35):
Dude, I saw that fourteen votes separated him and genty
So if you were ever gonna split a Heisman in two,
this would have been the one.

Speaker 6 (02:11:42):
But can't take it away from Hunter. He played he
is so frigging good.

Speaker 4 (02:11:45):
Yesterday there was a big man, a big thread going
on about his outfit for the Heisman, and one of
the funniest ones I've seen was like, yeah, Comeal is
gonna need that suit bag?

Speaker 7 (02:11:58):
Dog?

Speaker 6 (02:11:58):
Oh that's wrong, so wrong?

Speaker 14 (02:12:00):
Is wrong?

Speaker 11 (02:12:02):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (02:12:02):
Man?

Speaker 4 (02:12:03):
And obviously his fiance catching some heat too for Uh,
she wouldn't stand up. Deon Sanders had to tell her
to stand up when he won it. She was heard
caught on a hot mic complaining about Travis Hunter at
a signing event.

Speaker 6 (02:12:17):
Just sit here the whole time?

Speaker 2 (02:12:18):
Yes, well, listen, your fiance is.

Speaker 6 (02:12:20):
Won the Heisman Trophy.

Speaker 4 (02:12:22):
He's out in a phase getting paid for it, to
sign autographs, to take pictures.

Speaker 2 (02:12:25):
Yes, not only that. If you didn't want to understand,
the note wasn't about you, He included you. He brought you,
set there, hugged you right when it was Listen. Why
would you want to rain on that moment? What do
you expect when you said all day no, if you
don't want to sit there, you came. It's listen. We
have it once a year, they can it's yours forever.

(02:12:49):
Once you're the Hall of Famer, a Heisman Trophy winner,
you get to call Heisman Trophy winner forever. Capitalize on it.
You're gonna make money off it. It was his weekend
and his moment. Why in the world, what do you
expect me to sity forever? As matter of fact, until
the events over. I absolutely do. And if that was
a problem, then you better stay. You ass home or
go take it. They were in New York. There's a

(02:13:09):
lot to do in New York. If you got a problem,
or if you're worried about a woman coming up and
taking a photo with him, Guess what when you date him?
Guess what you signed up for when you got the
best football player in the world in college? Yeah, you know,
just right, And if it matches in the NFL, it's
going to be his whole career. There's going to be
people that want to take photos with him. He's going
to get invited to banquets, he's going to go signing

(02:13:31):
sessions and all that. It's the Heisman Trophy. What did
you think you were there for? What did you expect
Tim to stop down and say, honey, I'm sorry, I
got Then he would have taken flak for not doing
what he was there for. You're there, you're standing in line,
you're taking pictures. It's a moment and you only get
it once. I'm talking about the Heisman Trophy weekend, right, right,
and then you get to go back and do that.

(02:13:51):
But that was your moment, your time, and I don't
know why anybody would want to have that. Well, what
do you expect me to do. Well, here, all the
money about to make her have made Why don't you
go shopping if you've got a problem, or go eat
with your girlfriend, or or walk to the rock, right,
do whatever you got to do.

Speaker 7 (02:14:07):
But I have to do this.

Speaker 2 (02:14:08):
I'm committed to it. And by the way, just if
you haven't heard, I won the Heisman Trophy. Yeah, so
maybe we could enjoy this together.

Speaker 6 (02:14:14):
It'd be nice. I mean, what did he want to do?

Speaker 2 (02:14:16):
I mean, what is she? What is she was gonna do?
She wons why she took took some heat?

Speaker 13 (02:14:21):
Stop it.

Speaker 7 (02:14:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:14:22):
And then Travis Hunter yesterday on a podcast of course, uh,
defending his fiance as he should, but saying that she's
been doing nothing but crying and drinking all day because
of all the backlash she was received.

Speaker 2 (02:14:33):
Well, that was self inflicted, self inflicted backlash and maybe now,
well maybe she better get her drinking stuff under control.

Speaker 6 (02:14:39):
If that's the case. I'm kidding, but you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:14:40):
Yeah, if I'm travising so self Hunter, like, you don't
you don't have to say that you don't know what?

Speaker 2 (02:14:45):
Apologies? Yeah, exactly, he doesn't know, and I'm not I
don't know. She may be a great person. I only
think about it the first I don't even know what
is her name?

Speaker 6 (02:14:51):
First name, I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (02:14:52):
I don't know what her name is.

Speaker 6 (02:14:52):
I couldn't tell you.

Speaker 5 (02:14:55):
I just know this.

Speaker 2 (02:14:57):
It's not like you have take it back, but you're
there to suppor him, and that is his more. It
would be like her winning an oscar if she was
an actress and him saying, what am I supposed to
sit here and watch you take pictures all day with
your award?

Speaker 14 (02:15:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (02:15:07):
Probably her name is Leanna, that's how you say.

Speaker 2 (02:15:11):
So, I don't know. And then she wonders why she
took flack today. Good gracious, Well, if that's the case,
and you're going it's gonna be tough to well, we'll
see if they can sustain the relationship if if she's
going to be bothered every time he gets attention, what
did you think you were in New York for in
the Heisman Trophy banquet?

Speaker 6 (02:15:27):
Yeah? Again, I just would I don't know she made.

Speaker 2 (02:15:30):
Maybe that's what Maybe he feels good.

Speaker 6 (02:15:32):
You standing up and applauding your fiance when he just
won the Heisman.

Speaker 2 (02:15:37):
And everybody else around your standing. I have zero idea
in the closest vote in what I have zero idea ever,
I mean I have zero idea. Well, man, yeah, I
try to stay out of like that, but the optics
of it and listen to her complain about it or
just it's it's it felt and we're not talking about
him when the heisman talking about her stuff?

Speaker 6 (02:15:58):
Yeah, talk about his fiance.

Speaker 2 (02:16:00):
And then if she wanted to do that, she she
saw it, and then then you wonder why you're sitting
around counting all day.

Speaker 4 (02:16:05):
Yeah, she didn't stand up to applaud when he won
the Heisman. I mean maybe maybe maybe she couldn't see,
Maybe maybe she needs lasick.

Speaker 2 (02:16:14):
Maybe she was in the.

Speaker 6 (02:16:16):
First row she couldn't see. Well, then doctor Whitst can
you think do you think doctor Whitsy can help her out?

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Speaker 3 (02:17:25):
The Sean Salisbury Show continued, Brandon, what's happening, Good.

Speaker 16 (02:17:32):
Morning, Brian, Good morning, Sean, how.

Speaker 2 (02:17:33):
You guys, Good morning, We're well.

Speaker 12 (02:17:35):
How is y'alls weekend?

Speaker 6 (02:17:38):
Good Brandon? How was yours?

Speaker 2 (02:17:40):
It was?

Speaker 12 (02:17:41):
Good Texans run.

Speaker 6 (02:17:42):
They sure did. Defense is really good, Brandon. How you
feel about the Kyle Tucker trade?

Speaker 7 (02:17:48):
I like it?

Speaker 16 (02:17:49):
You like it?

Speaker 6 (02:17:50):
Okay? You like it that you liked that they got
some prospects back. Huh yep, good deal, Yes I do.
Did you watch the Rockets?

Speaker 7 (02:18:03):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:18:04):
I did not, Brandon.

Speaker 6 (02:18:05):
You told us you were gonna watch, you.

Speaker 12 (02:18:07):
Buddy, Come on, man, yesterday we were busy because.

Speaker 13 (02:18:12):
We're sewing the house.

Speaker 4 (02:18:14):
Well, they played Saturday night, Brandon. They didn't play yesterday,
are they?

Speaker 7 (02:18:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:18:21):
They Brandon?

Speaker 4 (02:18:22):
You called Friday and asked us when they played, and
we told you, man, you said you're gonna watch.

Speaker 2 (02:18:25):
Come on, man, Yeah, I forgot.

Speaker 12 (02:18:30):
We were busy Saturday.

Speaker 6 (02:18:31):
Uh huh uh huh, you just forgot, Brandon. It's okay.

Speaker 12 (02:18:34):
We've all been there my Thursday. We're playing again.

Speaker 6 (02:18:39):
Yeah, are you gonna watch? You're gonna forget?

Speaker 2 (02:18:43):
I didn't.

Speaker 12 (02:18:44):
I will watch it.

Speaker 6 (02:18:45):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:18:46):
We'll appreciate you calling, Brandon. We'll talk to you tomorrowright, buddy,
have a good day, you too, Brandon. Thank you, My
man forgot.

Speaker 6 (02:18:52):
Well you're all up with his grill?

Speaker 4 (02:18:54):
Hey, you came to let lett him off the hook.
Every day he talks about watching the Rockets, and we forget.
It was the nb A Cup semi finals, the Emirates
NBA Cup, the most important tournament in all sports in
the entire world, and my man forgot for that day.

Speaker 2 (02:19:09):
So you're telling me Brando and he's moving. They're moving
to another crib, and you're on and from the game.
I think they were. They're moving.

Speaker 6 (02:19:18):
I think still like three months.

Speaker 2 (02:19:20):
I don't think it's been that long it's been, has
it been. I'm gonna say it's been A yeah, it does,
it does. And then you you've got it up with
his grill about uh, what about the Kyle Tucker trade.
He said he's all right with it.

Speaker 6 (02:19:31):
You know he was happy.

Speaker 2 (02:19:32):
Yeah, happy, alright with it. It's good. Come on, you're
a what are you talking about? You are busy, man,
I forgot, No, we're busy. No, Brandon's got Brandon's dialed ina.
I told you the time.

Speaker 4 (02:19:50):
The next game probably triple Did you press him on
the screen or no? Did did you press him when
you screened him?

Speaker 9 (02:19:56):
Or no?

Speaker 6 (02:19:57):
Oh about the game. Yeah, Brandy be talking to me.
I don't know, Branda be talking. I feel like that's
gotta be right, Brandon.

Speaker 2 (02:20:06):
Conversation.

Speaker 6 (02:20:07):
See what I'm saying towards Whitey.

Speaker 2 (02:20:10):
Because because no, because uh, he's actually nicer than we are.
Triple is actually nicer than you and me. Okay, he's
you know what I'm saying, Maybe not nicer, but he's
a kinder, gentler trip for sure. There you go.

Speaker 4 (02:20:24):
Hey, uh, you know he asked about how the weekend is,
and I just wanted to thank everybody that reached out
to me on Twitter and on social media. I lost
my dog, Dodger late Saturday night in the r VET
for damn near six hours. Uh was with him for
thirteen and a half years. Unfortunately, had to make the
decision to let him go. It was a it was

(02:20:44):
a very difficult night. It was a very difficult Sunday.

Speaker 6 (02:20:47):
But the outpouring of messages or you know, tweets and
responses that I got it was awesome and it made
it a little bit easier.

Speaker 4 (02:20:56):
It's never easy to lose a pet, whether it's a dog, cat,
whatever you have, because it's not just a pet at
your family. I had to put down my dog's slider
back in twenty twenty two, which was very, very difficult,
which was Dodger's sister, and.

Speaker 6 (02:21:09):
Then I had to put Dodger down over the weekend.

Speaker 4 (02:21:10):
It was it was hard, but I just wanted to
thank everybody because a lot of listeners of our show,
Sean reached out to me on Twitter and it was
it made it a little bit easier.

Speaker 2 (02:21:19):
So we've got good people.

Speaker 6 (02:21:20):
Yeah, there's no doubt.

Speaker 2 (02:21:21):
You and I talked over the weekend today and I
don't need to say much because you said it so eloquently.
We do have good listeners. And it sucks to lose
a dog, yeah, because they are family and at times,
quite frankly, when it comes to dogs, they're a better
friend than.

Speaker 6 (02:21:37):
A lot of other people are. Yeah, And I hate
to say it, just it's it's the truth.

Speaker 2 (02:21:40):
But when you got people who care, and we've got
some phenomenal listeners and callers and people who care, and
you got a lot of friends, and it makes me
sick to my stomach because I can't.

Speaker 14 (02:21:49):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (02:21:49):
I got three and I can't fathom it. And the
greatest thing in the world outside of fact, it was
like the like the dog, I mean, I love the
love of a dog, you know. Yeah, and the unfortunate
thing like life is that love when you buy them,
you know at some point comes to an end. Yeah,
and a lot quicker than humans lives usually. Yeah, unfortunately,

(02:22:12):
you know, my parents lost a child at nine months old.
But for the most part, you know, we outlive our dogs, right,
And I just I'm sorry you had to go through that. Yeah,
it gives me a six Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:22:24):
It's it's the I've cried.

Speaker 4 (02:22:27):
I'm not even I'm not even afraid to admit it, because,
like we talked yesterday, you know, you have to let
your emotions out, right.

Speaker 6 (02:22:32):
I went so long.

Speaker 4 (02:22:34):
Yeah, I went so long with holding emotions in and
it it actually damaged me more than it helped. Right,
So I have cried so much over the last two days.
Coming in here this morning obviously gets it helps to
take my mind off of things. But the sobering fact is, like,
you spend so much of your life with your dogs,

(02:22:54):
if you're lucky enough, because I got almost twelve years
with Slider, I got thirteen half years with Dodger, and
my dog Oprah is damn, you're about to be sixteen.
So I've been blessed with those three. But it's the
unexpected part of it. We you know, I woke up
Saturday morning, like I always do.

Speaker 7 (02:23:10):
We went out.

Speaker 4 (02:23:10):
He jumped around, played around, We went to the I
went to the gym. I came back and it was
completely opposite. He had taken a turn that I didn't expect.
And I think that's the hardest part about this.

Speaker 2 (02:23:20):
They know how to communicate with you, to let you
know when it's time, though you can't carry that guilt around.

Speaker 6 (02:23:24):
No, And I think that's what I'm struggling with right now, is.

Speaker 2 (02:23:26):
Yeah, you give thirteen and a half years for you
and dogs know, they come up and let you know
that they're tired.

Speaker 6 (02:23:32):
Yeah, and he did percent he did. When we were
at the yar Vet. I could tell when it comes
to the end.

Speaker 2 (02:23:38):
It's like for us, it's almost becomes more selfish because
we don't want it to tug with our emotions. Yet
they get to a point where they're suffering, right, Yeah,
and you don't want that to happen. It sucks. And
hear other dog. You know, Oprah's gonna wonder why and yeah,
a friend and I can't fathom it because I do
spend more time with dogs than I do humans. Yeah,
I mean outside of my home, I do and I've

(02:24:00):
told you to add like to I do not travel
now if it's a one day business trip to come back, say,
I can't. I don't know when the last time when
I'm traveled, I spend a night. Well, I don't travel
without my dogs. So that's why I don't fly anyway.
I take them and I drive with them. If it's
a trip that goes we I mean, my dogs are
driving with me, and I just I can't fathom and

(02:24:22):
right now, so I'm sorry I went through that, man.

Speaker 6 (02:24:23):
But well said by you, and it'll take a while
to get over. You'll never get over it.

Speaker 2 (02:24:28):
No, it softens the blow as it goes because you know, now,
as I told you yesterday, don't take that guilt around man,
because you had to. A dog deserved not to suffer.
And and now you start to focus on the good memories. Yeah,
and make sure your other dogs knows that it's loved.

Speaker 7 (02:24:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:24:44):
I think that was like I said, That's the thing
I'm grappling with the most is like when I walked
out of that ar vet after everything was said and done,
Like the things that I thought to myself and the
things I said out loud were you know, like I
wish I could have done more. What you know exactly right?

Speaker 2 (02:24:58):
Yeah, you know you can't that burden around because the
dog probably is like, oh, don't take me home. Yeah
I'm tired. Yeah, So I'm sorry you had to go
through that. Yeah, thank you appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (02:25:08):
And again thank you to all the UH loyal listeners
that we have and that interact with us on Twitter.
I got so many responses and condolences that.

Speaker 2 (02:25:18):
So many good people out there that we're that are
able to be to make our show, make make coming
to work off.

Speaker 4 (02:25:23):
Yeah, there is no doubt seven one, three, two five
seven it's getting the final segment, Joe John, You guys
will be the last callers of the show.

Speaker 6 (02:25:30):
Will continue to talk about this astral stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:25:32):
Next, let the celebration start.

Speaker 3 (02:25:36):
Or Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (02:25:42):
I know, Andre, good dude, but I didn't come up
to talk about Lisa left.

Speaker 6 (02:25:46):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (02:25:47):
Am I right about that? And she dates so and so?

Speaker 6 (02:25:49):
Oh yeah did she burn a house down?

Speaker 2 (02:25:50):
I thought that she lit.

Speaker 6 (02:25:52):
Then yeah, she burned her boyfriend's house.

Speaker 2 (02:25:55):
And then was it? Was it bad moon? Andre Risen?

Speaker 6 (02:25:58):
Yeah, there you go. Ninety ninety four mmmm.

Speaker 4 (02:26:02):
She set fire to a pair of tennis shoes and
left him in the bathtub.

Speaker 6 (02:26:07):
The fire quickly spread the home, causing extensive damage.

Speaker 2 (02:26:10):
Hmmm.

Speaker 6 (02:26:12):
She said, Oh, I only I only intended to ruin.

Speaker 2 (02:26:15):
His tennis shoes. Well, that's excuse me an expension. I
intended to I only intended to for the streets. Well,
she probably should have seen out of her right eye,
had known that the tennis shoes are going to catch
the rest of the house on fire.

Speaker 6 (02:26:31):
Maybe she was Maybe if she was was uh ricky
right eye.

Speaker 2 (02:26:37):
Yeah, maybe if she'd have gone to wits ed vision,
she would have used bult eyes. There you go, what
a great nick Lisa left eye left.

Speaker 6 (02:26:45):
Let's talk to Joe real quick. What's up, Joe.

Speaker 15 (02:26:50):
Well, if Lisa had had a glass tosh, you could
have set it on the table and kept on iron things.

Speaker 2 (02:26:57):
What's Look, we actually created nut jobs on our show too,
So welcome Joe to the nut job effect.

Speaker 6 (02:27:05):
Man, We're glad to have you. You're just like we are.

Speaker 15 (02:27:11):
Hey, sorry about your dog. I lost my cat, Mikey Boy,
in June, and he was a max cat and he
was just a stupor animal, and so I already know
what you're carrying, So let's go. I got a lot
to say, but I'm gonna can dance it down to this.
What an organization you ston astros Jim Crane went through

(02:27:31):
some really really good general managers, Jeff Luna click. I mean,
look at the coaches.

Speaker 7 (02:27:38):
We've had a J.

Speaker 15 (02:27:39):
Hinch, We've had Dusty Baker. I mean, what a model
for major League Baseball. We got all these players on
a rookie Contract's Carreis Tucker and we we played him
at one World Series on a rookie contract. So that
didn't set well with our core group. So getting back
to Schotatucker real quick, good deal. We needed to do that.

(02:28:02):
We got to get something for Tucker because it didn't
matter if he gave Tucker the moon. Tucker was not
going to sign in Easton correct because language agreed Tom
at the twenty twenty three preseason, he talked to him
about the arbitration they made him go through, told him
all the reasons why in the arbitration, hearing why it
wouldn't work, the money, and I remember them things distinctly.

(02:28:25):
I've seen his body language, I seen his mannerism. Said
this guy's not coming back.

Speaker 14 (02:28:29):
Susie gets a shock to get out.

Speaker 19 (02:28:30):
He's gonna roll.

Speaker 15 (02:28:31):
So he did good here, he'll get paid, but the
dynasty and the window always closes on a dynasty. Alex
Bregman six years, one fifty seven. Alex Bregman is gonna
be thirty six, almost thirty seven years old. Nobody beats
father time me. It's time to rebuild, put some key
pieces in there, keep the core pitching group and go stros.

Speaker 2 (02:28:54):
Joe real quick. You know what, it's not the dynasties
and domination ends, and it does. The whole key year
is not that if it's going to end, because it is.
I mean it doesn't mean you can't be good, but
where you're dominating like this, it's how quickly can you
get back to it? And doing what they're doing now
is got to be a part of it. You weren't
here exactly right. Tucker wasn't coming back here and you
weren't going to afford him anyway. We're going to pay

(02:29:14):
it and Bregman's going to go get more money. And
he had a hell of a run here. Now it's
time to find who the next Bregman and Tucker are.
If they're out there that's the key there.

Speaker 11 (02:29:23):
You go.

Speaker 6 (02:29:23):
Appreciate the call, Joe.

Speaker 2 (02:29:25):
Yeah, good point.

Speaker 6 (02:29:26):
And it's doctor Richard. Final calls. I shot your cat too, Joe,
Sorry about that, Richard. What's happening? Hey, good morning?

Speaker 10 (02:29:32):
Hey real quick. I know last time I was on,
I was talking about my wife. We had a couple laughs,
but nothing like that this time. Just wanted to tell you,
you know, virtual hug to you and losing your pup.
I lost my boy of twelve years just last month.

Speaker 17 (02:29:48):
I was with him.

Speaker 10 (02:29:51):
The night because it was a friend of ours. I
was with him the night he was born, and I
was with him the last day. He was about one
hundred and ten pounds yellow lab and for twelve years,
you know, he was my shadow. And uh, I can't
tell you how quiet the house is without him. I
mean it's just it's it's you just can't explain it.
But the only thing I wanted to say to you

(02:30:13):
was virtual hug to you. And you know it's the
ultimate responsibility we have, you know, as they're.

Speaker 2 (02:30:21):
Human, you know they can't.

Speaker 9 (02:30:23):
Tell us, but they.

Speaker 6 (02:30:26):
Got Richard.

Speaker 2 (02:30:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:30:29):
Anyway, so just just hugs to you, and uh, just
just think that you know your pup he really didn't
know anything other than love.

Speaker 19 (02:30:40):
So you know, take that with you.

Speaker 6 (02:30:42):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (02:30:44):
Sorry, thank you, Richard. A good point by Richard, Yeah, excellent,
excellent point.

Speaker 16 (02:30:49):
You know.

Speaker 6 (02:30:49):
And and it's crazy because.

Speaker 2 (02:30:51):
And I'm sure he's still you can tell you.

Speaker 6 (02:30:53):
Yeah, I I was there when uh Dodger was born.

Speaker 4 (02:30:58):
I was there when Slider was born. And ope, there
was other three d puppies. She had five right in
front of me back in May of twenty eleven. I
kept slidering Dodger until the last days. And I was
with both of them when I let go of both
of them, and Dodger was my shadow everything I did,
he was right there. That's the hardest part, man, is
the little things, you know, like I'm gonna try out

(02:31:19):
to cry, but just waking up and the dog. There's
not a dog in your bed anymore because my little one, Oprah,
she sleeps, she does her own thing. She's a queen
of the house, she does her own thing. So it's
the little things that I'm gonna have to adjust to.

Speaker 6 (02:31:36):
And it sucks. It just flat out sucks.

Speaker 2 (02:31:38):
It does.

Speaker 6 (02:31:39):
There's no other way around it.

Speaker 2 (02:31:40):
There was a temptation of do I go get another puppy,
and then there's the Oh my gosh, I don't want
to go through this.

Speaker 4 (02:31:45):
I don't want to have to go through because I'm
gonna have to go through it again with Oprah and
Oprah's coming up on sixteen years old. I've had a
phenomenal she's had a phenomenal life with me, and I've
had a phenomenal life with her. So when she goes
after that, you know, to be honest with you, Sean,
unless I rescue the dog, I probably won't because I
don't want to have to go through this again.

Speaker 2 (02:32:02):
I understand, trust me, I get it.

Speaker 6 (02:32:05):
It's the worst, the absolute worst. I've said it.

Speaker 14 (02:32:08):
I said it.

Speaker 4 (02:32:08):
Actually it's crazy because we were talking about Ben after
we had Kirk Kirkstreet on how he lost his dog,
and we talked about, you know, dogs and how special
they are and all pets, right, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:32:20):
Boy, do they forgive you in a hurry too?

Speaker 6 (02:32:22):
There's no doubt, man.

Speaker 2 (02:32:23):
And I just think I'm telling you know, when you
get when you're angry or their bar they're excited, they're
just happy to see it, and you're like, get down
and get down. Then you crave them to be jumping
on you. You know, sorry, you went through it, man,
keep one.

Speaker 6 (02:32:38):
That's tough, you know what, but we'll we hold on
to the good memories.

Speaker 2 (02:32:42):
Right absolutely, and with dogs other than their death, most
of them are good memories. Even though when you look back,
like if you chew that and you want to get it,
it's like, of course you did. But it's cool because
I can clean that up. It's it's it's a thing. Yeah,
it's not that big a deal. Those can be replaced. Yeah,
there is no doubt, man, but they but the memories
still a little lift for they can't be real, yes
they cannot. AFC South Champs two years in a row

(02:33:05):
for the Texans. Crazy congratulation. Nice job thanks to do
on offense, but you know you got to start by
winning the division. And here they are. These next two
games are gonna be a great challenge and I'm looking
forward to the King Tuk King Tuck of the North
and there you go, and real quick defense for the Texans.
You guys are.

Speaker 6 (02:33:24):
Really damn good top knos, really damn good good job
that is Shawn Salisbury Triple Emmanuel Elmore is our producer
making that happen every single day for us. I'm Brian
li Lima. Thank you for listening.

Speaker 4 (02:33:35):
We are back tomorrow morning at six am the Shawn
Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (02:33:39):
Do not miss out.

Speaker 4 (02:33:40):
We got a ton to get into tomorrow. The Texans offense,
what adjustments they have to make against the Chiefs. Course,
we'll continue to talk about the defense, Derek Stingley, more
on these astros, and Alex Bregman sweepstakes. They'll miss it
tomorrow morning, six am. Coming up next is The Matt
Thomas Show with Ross right here on seven ninety

Speaker 19 (02:34:00):
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