MLB 2025 All-Star Game Preview, Possible Astros' Reunion?, Craig Way Joins 790!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salisbury, Houston.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury to USC True's longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Dan Matthews.

Speaker 5 (00:17):
This is the Shawn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (00:23):
Dan Matthews back in Houston, r Sean Salisbury and Triple
E Emmanuel Elmore. It is the Sean Salisbury Show here
on a Tuesday, as it's day two from here at
the College Football Hall of Fame for.

Speaker 7 (00:36):
SEC Media Days. One of the teams you hear on this.

Speaker 6 (00:39):
Station, the LSU Tigers, came through yesterday.

Speaker 7 (00:43):
Today.

Speaker 6 (00:43):
Another team that you hear on the station, the Texas
Longhorns are going to come through. Also happening here in
Atlanta is the MLB All Star Game and all the festivities.
The home run derby last night, Cam Rawley or cal
Raley wins that one. In the the All Star Game
itself will be tonight. Trek School will go for the

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AL and Paul Skins for the National League. And you
know Sean yesterday, as I'm sure you're aware that a
lot of the current Astros in the former Astros that
were part of the media Day festivities over there at
Truest Park for the game, had a chance to catch
up with Alex Bregman had a chance to catch up

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with Kyle Tucker, Jeremy Pania, and Hunter Brown.

Speaker 7 (01:29):
As well as Josh Hater.

Speaker 6 (01:31):
But all in all, one of the things and some
of the things that did talk about with the guys
will start with the current Astros first, as I had
a chance to catch up with Jeremy Pania and Hunter
Brown and not pessimistic about where the Astros stand right
now despite the one in five starts, still feeling really
good about this team. As a matter of fact, we'll

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hear later on from Jeremy Pania calling this team special.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, good morning, I U. I mean, like I said,
you're there. You got to see the facial expressions and
everything else. I didn't get to watch any of the
festivities or I didn't watch, so I don't have any
idea what went on with the All Star Game other
than when I just turned on the TV now. But
it's yeah, well, they should be optimistic, and Pain should
be optimistic, as should Hunt Brown because they're they're in

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first place five five games, and even after a six
game struggle where they pulled one of them out, they're
still in first place by five games. So that's a
good thing. But they understand what coming out of it means,
so they'll be urgency. And again this is no longer.
We call them dog days this summer. When you come
out of this All Star break, it's a straight you're
on a sprint, or it's a four hundred meters it's

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not one hundred meter yet, it's a four hundred meters
where it's as you're legging it out for for a
big it's almost a sprint, or even at the eight
hundred meters where it feels like a sprint, and then
you know when you get into August, it'll be four
hundred meters.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
But it's the it's no longer. Yeah, it's a long season.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
No, it's you got to get people healthy and and
stave off two teams that I assure you have the
same goals as the Astros doing the Rangers and the Mariners.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
Yes, and there was quite a bit of Seattle Mariner
contingent here, and Jacob de Gram saw him around. Didn't
have a chance to catch up with any of those groups.
But I mean, that is the thing about the All
Star Game is I mean, let's take this back to
your NFL playing days like this. You know, obviously the
All Star Game for Major League Baseball, same for the NBA.
It's in the middle of the season, whereas the Pro

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Bowl they wait till the end of the year and
that's when finally you get the break.

Speaker 7 (03:34):
But I mean, you know, from the playing.

Speaker 6 (03:36):
Perspective, I mean, would you almost have liked for there
have been something like a Pro Bowl, you know, the
the NFL's version of an All Star Game to kind
of be able to you know, cut the season down,
or having the off or the the off week, the
bye week.

Speaker 7 (03:50):
That's that's good enough in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
You talking about for the players like not have an.

Speaker 7 (03:55):
All Star Game.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, I think the All Star Game is a great honor.
If you make it, it's an honor, and I don't
have a problem with having it stop down and those
who don't, you know, get rest. It's not exactly a
taxing All Star Game. I meant you're flying to Atlanta,
a nice place. You're getting why, you may get to
at bats if you're lucky, if you're a pitcher, if
you get two innings, we'll like WHOA. So yeah, it's

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a I think it's an honor and maybe I think different,
but I don't think it's I don't think it's that
tough on your legs to go to an All Star game. Now,
the guys who are in the home run or we
got to regather themselves. But I like it, I don't
like I mean all the festivities I think are the
pomp and circumstance, Like I just kind of wish for
a little bit less of it. I don't know how

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much of it was. I'm setting here seeing the TV
in the studio, but uh, from the highlights, I've seen
the cruises five hundred and thirteen foot home run and
the kid robbing a home run in left field of
the two with the highlights and cal Raley with his
dad and I think it was his sun was that
right catching? It was in his son or as his
son catching? Yeah, cal Rawly was his younger brother. Oh brother, Okay,

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so his younger brother. I was gonna say younger brother,
and that's what I say. And he's I don't even
know how old Cal is, but that's a I love
the family affair stuff and I think it's really cool
and good on him, congratulations, But yeah, I don't I
I don't. I think the All Star game's good. I
mean it's it's it's as long as we don't let
it get out of hand. And I was flipping the

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TV last I said, I didn't watch. I saw the camera.
I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong, but the camerangle was
bothersome to me when I flipped by it.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
But I didn't watch it.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Like I said, I saw the highlights this morning, So
I don't know how the broadcast was.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
It's just the optics of it. But I think it's
great if you get.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Elected to it, and it's an honor man as you'll
go back in the day. You may not remember the
one you missed, but you'll remember the ones you went to.
But I do get guys that need the rest because
they're injuries. But I've always I'm a big believer. I
think it's perfect. I would I would like the All
Star Game, probably a little sooner like he used to
be early July. Would I say early July like you
used to be at the eighty one right around eighty

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to eighty five games. But either way, it's in July.
It's post July fourth, and we used to have it
right around at times. I think Bill mentioned yesterday on
a call. So for me, it's I think it's great
for them. Who the hell wouldn't want to do it?
And then the All Star Game the night It's not
like you get to be around the fellas. What dof
players always tell you when their career is over? Do
they ever do they ever walk and tell you when

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they get interviewed, Yeah, I mean I missed the money,
all of us, like the paycheck. I missed the money
I missed They say they missed competition, and more importantly,
they say they missed the fellas. They miss being in
the most sacred place on the planet, not named church
for athletes, and that's in a locker room and going here.
There's nobody talking race. We're not talking gender in that clubhouse.

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They're just being around the fellas and saying And when
they look back, they're never, ever, what do we get
paid for that All Star game? They're gonna remember hanging
around other guys. Paul Scheme's picking the brain of of
you know, all these these these young guys getting a
load of these other players, and some of these guys
are going to the end of their careers just getting started. Yeah,
I get that you want the rest, but in truth,

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how hard is it to fly first? Class to Atlanta
playing a baseball game. Get to it, bats, go back
and get Wednesday off and then Thursday off, and then
get to your city Thursday or Friday. I'm not trying
to poop it away. It's not that hard the eye.
Matter of fact, I would contend that twenty years down
the road, they'll say, Man, you know what, I shouldn't
have missed that I was healthy enough to go play it,

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so that everybody's got their gig. And then I'm not
speaking for anybody, I'd go, it's not that hard, and
that's plenty of rest.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
And they'll get plenty of.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Rest there too, but they'll remember sitting in a locker
room in a clubhouse with their fellows, and so yeah,
hell yeah, I think it's important to have it, and
I think it's good. I just think that the production
of it. I thought the unifor I'm just seeing the uniforms, Dan,
I think the uniforms are awful. Just my point, Yes,
said the uniforms are awful. I mean that, al, I

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just we sometimes you try to get too cute. Stick
the Atlanta braves. Hell, why don't we go back to
old throwback uniforms for all the for all the baseball players.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
That's what I'd love to do.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Like that.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I would love to go back and take the old school,
the throwback uniform for the Cincinnati Reds when the and
pay homage to the past. Let the Cincinnati Reds war
the uniform made that white uniform with the big red
machine war. Let the Oakland a representative where the sleeveless

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things with their long sleeve, you know, the green and
gold underneath.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
The Reggie Jackson war in the seventies.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Let let the Atlanta Braves when Bob Horner played, when
there's four thousand people in the stands. I mean, that
would be far more cool. I guarantee you they're selling
far more of those if they did it than they are.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
That we just get too cute with it.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
And I think the uniforms, and I know that's such
a minor thing, but to me, those guys they're they're awful.
It's they get trying to get too cute too design
the big production. I put on your uniform from the past,
and let's recognize the players that can. We always talk
about recognizing people from the past. Good, then put on
the uniform. Did George Foster, Johnny Bench War the Pete
Rose War, I mean not literally war with that style

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and go around the league and the old school Red Sox,
old school Atlanta Braves, old school San Francisco Giants. How
cool would that be. There's some pretty good players like
Willie Mays and Hank Aaron that have gone through places
like that, So that's what I do. I think for
All Star Game, just don't get too cute. They got
good players. We want to see him play and competitive,
but yeah, it's an honor and I just I think
it's great for them to go and you'll be plenty

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well rested. It's not like you're gonna play nine innings
and wear out and take on the catcher at home plate.
So good on them, and good on Baseball for continuing
to have the best All Star Game of any of them,
that's for sure.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
Yeah, and I like your throwbacks idea too. I mean,
like for the I guess now three because Peretis didn't
come out here, but you could have somebody wearing the
Tequila Sunrise, you could have somebody wearing the Rainbows, and
then you could have somebody either wearing the gold Star
or the brick red era Astro's Uni as the throwback.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
From yeah, and then you who's got who's the what
you call it? The Detroit Tigers will represented. Why not
have the uniforms that al kline more and I mean
and the white Sox when I mean there's just so
many cool the red Sox from the old school Pittsburgh Pirates,
that hat that that will and we lost them important.
I mean Dave Parker, we just lost him, you know what.

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I just just to me, we try. We think everything's
got to be. It's like rules in sports rules, Oh,
we got to change rules just to change them. Things
are going good, and we just change a football rule
or a baseball rule just to change it, even if
it's working. To me, uh, the Q, I think these
uniforms and maybe I don't know what you saw up
close from them they from this what I'm seeing on

(10:49):
these highlights, it's to me, I just think that they
could do a lot better there. But in truth, it's
it's a good thing and it's an honor. And if
you just look at it like that, it's an exhibition.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
It's an honor. Go play.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Most importantly, these guys will remember standing around the batting
cage and eating in the clubhouse with the fellas and
all the laughs they're going to have that none of
us are ever going to be privy to. That's what
That's another thing that I felt about the locker room.
We talked about stuff and laughed about stuff that none
of those folks outside that locker room. That's the one
thing gotcha that that I think for me, the biggest
honor is that they'll never know people outside those clubhouses

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what this guy with Hunter Brown's talking to to whoever about,
what what the Ellie day La Cruz is talking. I mean,
we'll never know, unlet's they want us to. And that's
and that's perfectly fine in the way it should be.
That's why you got the one Well, what was the
biggest important thing? The fact that I got to sit
in a clubhouse with all my favorite guys and even

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guys you're competitive against that do you maybe you didn't
like and then you get a feel for you know what,
this is.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
A good dude to me.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
They should cherish every membery and they will, but usually
it's after the fact, so that's what they'll remember. And
cal Raley having his family there, they're not going to
rememb roll out of the pomp and circumstances or the
money they're making from it, They're gonna remember all the
good stuff and the laughs they shared with their buddies.
And so if you've got a chance, go, I don't
know why you wouldn't for sure.

Speaker 6 (12:10):
And you know, the funny thing is is everybody was
wearing their team units yesterday, Like the Astros contingent was
wearing their road at the.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Press at the press conference stuff.

Speaker 7 (12:20):
Yeah, at the at the media day.

Speaker 6 (12:21):
Yeah, the Road Grays with Houston across the front, Kyle
Tucker with the Cubs Penn stripes with the Cubs logo,
and Alex Bregnant with the Road Boston Jersey, which I
guess because it is a National League park, you have
the American League guys wearing their away stuff.

Speaker 7 (12:37):
But you know, I mean for the Red Sox, I mean.

Speaker 6 (12:40):
I'm with you probably I love I love the home whites,
although I do like the red tops though that the.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
I fregaging love it, and the uniforms are half the
fun when they're good ones. So I just think we
I just don't think we have to overthink it, and
I think sometimes we do. Like the home run derby,
I mean, it's you got to be a mathematician and
a and an analytics expert, metrics expert from Harvard. I'm kidding,
but you get my point. And well, okay, what do
you think the most people are going to talk about?

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And I didn't even watch it. I'm sitting here watching.
There's three things for me. Cal Raley and his family.
They always everybody likes the family, like when Robbie Cano,
what was his father pitching to him? And stuff that?

Speaker 8 (13:17):
Right?

Speaker 4 (13:18):
And then you have and we always love that.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
You'll remember, in my opinion, they're going to remember the
kid jumping up and robbing a home run, which I'd
done the same thing. I love the kid bad. I
hope they put him on every top. What if it
would have been the difference in a guy moving on
or not or win it? I love it. That kid
will never forget he went up over the fence and
robbed a home run. I thought it was priceless and
he's a kid. And remember it's an exhibition. Well the
home run derby's worth some money. But we saw the

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difference and I loved it. And then finally, and probably
the biggest thing is we're not talking about right now.
You're not going to go I don't even remember saying
what did cal Roley win with. I'm sitting here, watched
TV and it was on two minutes ago, and I
can't even tell you what he won with how many
on the final round, But I can tell you this that,
like I've continued to pro each O'Neill, Cruz went five

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almost five point fifteen. Hell, and what he hit four
ninety eight that I that they're talking about. There's two
of them that he that it feels like they were farther.
I'm sitting here watching, so like I always say, give
me a little bit of bat and then how far
would it have gone? Hell, it might have knocked a
building down behind the right field fence or whatever. So
we're gonna be talking about how far it went, not
how many he hit. That's what I'm saying. So don't

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make it too cute. Let him rip, and let's let
it go. But what an honor it is to be
an All Star. And I don't think you can ever
get tired of that.

Speaker 7 (14:33):
No, probably not.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
And I mean, as you know in there yesterday for
the media day, I mean everybody having fun, everybody relaxed,
everybody enjoyed themselves. I mean I guess that's the other
fun part about an All Star game too, is it
is a breather where you're you know, you're here, you're
with guys you don't see very often. But also too,
I mean, it's just there's nothing on the line, so

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you're not amped up and you know tight for you know,
the competition and everything that feeds into just a normal
either you know, a high stakes regular season game or
even a playoff game too, So that's another nice part
of it. But I mentioned though, current and former astros.
What about a former astro sean that we're gonna hear

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from next who said that a reunion was a possibility
all the way.

Speaker 7 (15:22):
Until the end. We'll hear from them right here.

Speaker 6 (15:25):
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Speaker 1 (15:48):
Fan experience that franchise has been pretty damn good. I'll
be honest with you and then listen to the price
if you do it right there, and then then say,
for me, I would build a facility that quaint and cozy.
Now you know, I know that you want all star
games and all that, but one that's it isn't a stadium,

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but is the cozy ballpark. And I know baseball we
call them all ballparks, but some of them still feel
you know, I mean, although we don't have the brick
and mortar stadiums we used to have, which is a
good thing, but I would make it a little some
some quirk quirky. I'd love to design like you talk
about golf course. I'd love to design a just baseball
where you put the measurements and what's your like you
got the green monster in the iyevy do something different there,

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and don't don't just make it a oh, here we go.
Because they've got they've got that franchise has been a
winning franchise. They've won, They've won a lot of baseball
games and have had good players roll through there. So
for one point seven billion, it feels to me like
that's low in this day and age.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
It really does.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
If if I if you buy a major League Baseball team,
and I know there's a lot to it and maybe
it's not. I mean, I know that you know their
valuation the rest of it, but it just feels like,
I guess because we're talking about ten you know, ten
billion for the Lakers, which is I know there's an
iconic franchise and the rest of it, but it feels like,
hopefully with this purchase, they'll do what's necessary to make

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it better and more conducive. Because right now, of all
these what thirty ballparks, and I've got my goal is
to get to all of them. I'm about eight shy
right now because the new ones that were built, Like
I've been to Veterans Stadium in Philly, but not the
new one ballpark. It was vet that if the vet
was Veterans Stadium, this is these are ballparks. So that

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was a brick and mortar place as well played in
as a football player and watch baseball and as a
baseball fan. But is the the the Dan I lost
my train of thought, but just just talking, you build
the right facility and make it conducive so the fans
there love it.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
And the oh of the thirty ballparks.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
If I if I pulled most people, including you, and said,
if you want to go to all the ballparks, what's
your least desirable?

Speaker 6 (18:01):
I mean, I've been to it, and Troupicana Field was
like watching a baseball game in an office build.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Okay, well there you go.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
And I would I would say if you pulled most
people and you took the fact that you don't get
to go sunbathe after the game on a beach in
Florida and said, just going to a ballpark, what's the
one that you if you want to get all thirty
and then you go there and you say, Okay, I'm
going to time it to where the team that plays
against them is a team I want to see, because
I'm sure as hell not going for the beauty of
Tropicana that that would be the number one, the one

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you say, okay, I'm going to go there, So make
it to one where you'll want people can't wait to go.
But for one point seven billion, good on them. They
need a fresh start and they need they need a
whole new facelift in Tampa when it comes to all
that stuff, and I hope it happens, but good on
that one point seven billion. If they do it right,
it'll be far more valuable than that five years from.

Speaker 6 (18:51):
Now yeah, and then soon enough, hopefully we're not having
two major league franchises playing in minor league stadiums during
a season. But currently two of the thirty are playing
in a minor league baseball stadium.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
That's part of that.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Maybe that's part of why you got it for one
point seven billion. It just feels like it would have
cost more, but there you go.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
Yeah, save some of that money to be able to
kick in with either of the counties down there in
the Tampa area.

Speaker 7 (19:15):
All right, as promised Alex Bregman.

Speaker 6 (19:18):
Yesterday here at the MLB All Star Game Media Day,
had a chance to catch up with him first time
since he left during the offseason and signed with the
Boston Red Sox and of course spending the majority of
his career with the Astros. And we'll start with first.
One of the things that we had heard towards the end,

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Sean was that even after the Astros pulled off the
trade to send Kyle Tucker to Chicago and bring back
Hayden was Nesky, cam Smith and Estak Perettis felt like
at the time, all right, third base is handled well.
There were reports out there that maybe the Astros still
had interest in being bringing back Bregman, and yesterday catching
up with Alex, he said, honestly did not roll out

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an Astro's return even after the trade was made.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
I didn't really know.

Speaker 7 (20:06):
I didn't really know what was really gonna happen during
free agency. But I feel like, yeah, until until the end.

Speaker 6 (20:17):
So there you go, until the end when he finally signed.
I mean, you know, Chandler Rome, of course we talked
about yesterday, has his podcast but also his primary job
covering the Astros for The Athletic, had mentioned that it
was incredibly close for Bregman to go to the Detroit Tigers.
But at least, if nothing else, there is still, you know,

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mutual love between Bregman and his former teammates.

Speaker 7 (20:40):
And also, I mean the fact that.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
Even a reunion was possible, I mean it kind of
goes to show you that there was still a little
bit of that love on the Astros side too, right, Sean.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, but I don't think a reunion. I don't think
that a reunion is gonna be I mean that maybe
if you're talking, are we talking about a reunion to
come back now that when he's a free agent or
if if he opts out of a contract, Is that
what we're talking about, or during the negotiations you're talking
about during the free agency.

Speaker 7 (21:08):
Period, bingo, that's what it was, Yeah, because that's what
I think.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
The way it was teased was that it felt to
me like you're saying that you had a conversation with
him that he did he's not ruled out or isn't
ruling out a reunion. Well, there ain't gonna be on
a reunion here. Number one is paratus is playing well enough.
I no disrespect as much as I love reg Bregman
and the Red Sox if you're not getting back in
that freight, because if he comes here, it's gonna cost

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you more than it probably would have if he keeps
playing well. Right.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
That's that's one thing too, is so.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah. So as far as the oh, I'm sure they
were always in play while it was going on. The
best offer is going to be in play. And he
went to a place where he rakes, where he finally
got off to a fast start in his career, and
he's a he's an all star type player again, and
he's a hell of a player and gives you, well,
he's a well of enough a player that he allowed
that he allowed Devors to push him out the building

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after paying him three hun plus million dollars and you're
better for it. So yeah, But if you're Bregman, you're
talking about status, it's like, well, maybe I ought to
stay here the rest of my career become meeting Fenway
because he rakes. But that being said, so, as far
as a reunion pact going forward, if he all sons
ops out, will he jump back in if they didn't
pay him the first time and the ain't gona pay
him the second time, I wouldn't think, But there should

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be no hard feelings. Bregman did what was best for him,
Scott Boris did what was best for Bregman, and the
Astros did what was best for them. And the truth is,
for all three it's worked out. You got a good
third baseman here who's playing out of his playing great
baseball as has stepped up and done his thing the
Red Sox when he's healthy and ready to go. Bregman
Is is a damn good defender and obviously hits there.

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And Scott Boris has another client that he's gonna get
paid if this continues, whether it's in Boston or somewhere else.
So it's worked out. But I think it was always
in play. But you knew that the money wasn't going
to be enough. And I don't think there's any reason
why good memories of Bregman here. Why in the world
would the Astros not have good feelings about him and
him have good feelings about them. It's a business decision.

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I wouldn't think it's anything personal. If it is, they'll
all get over it and move on. And it's worked
all the way around. So yeah, I think Bregman's days
in an Astro's uniform are done. And if he comes back,
if he rakes, he ain't coming back here because that
means more money. If he plays great in the Red
Sox sign and we'll good on him. But if he
leaves there and opts out, it's usually for more money,
and so it's not gonna be here.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
And you and I both know it. But he had
a hell of a run here.

Speaker 7 (23:28):
No, he definitely did.

Speaker 6 (23:29):
And you know, speaking of the Red Sox playing good
baseball right now, so you know he's come back. I
mean it's kind of like, you know, the boost for
Boston is what you're hoping for. You're gonna be able
to get out of rd On Alvarez, so hopefully that
is the case. Second half, we'll hear a little bit
more from Alex Bregman. Also, Jason, see you right there,
get you involved in the conversation. We were supposed to

(23:49):
have our good buddy Matt Moscona from ESPN one oh
four to five and Baton Rouge join us, but a
little bit of work popped up on him, so we'll
have him a little bit later on the show. I
think also to this warning, Sean, with it being the
Texas day that we're gonna hear from the voice of
the Longhorns on the radio, I don't that you hear
here on sports SOX seven ninety. Corick Way gonna join
us a little bit later on too, So all that

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The seven ninety listener line in the six o'clock hour
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Good morning, How you doing.

Speaker 9 (26:05):
I'm doing great this morning. I was always loved to
show love listening to you guys. The All Star Game
happens to be one of my favorite All Star games
in sports. I absolutely love it. Loved the home run Derby.
Grew up a Braves fan and so seeing Chipper Jones
last night on TV was pretty cool. But I listened

(26:30):
to the interview that you did with Alex Bregnan and
it was an awesome interview because we kind of got
to hear about his feelings, you know, about how close
it was to Houston, you know, coming back to Houston.
But you know when they made the deal with Chicago

(26:51):
to get parades, you know, I just you had at
some point, no, they weren't gonna get parades just to
you know, send a minor league.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
He was going to play.

Speaker 9 (27:01):
And you know, like mister Sean said, he's done very.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Well at third Day. He's an All Star.

Speaker 9 (27:09):
And I don't think anybody in their right mind would
boo Alex Bregman because what he did in Houston was
a huge part of them winning both World Series. And
as I'm listening to that interview, you know, I'm hearing
him talk about, you know, how close it was to Houston.
But I gotta be honest with you. I mean, in

(27:32):
my opinion, a smart fan would have knew it would
have been about the money. And you know, we all
knew that the Astros at first kind of low balled them,
and then some would say he got a fairdale after that,
But I mean, you've kind of seen the writing on
the wall. You know, it was just getting too close,
to too close, and eventually, you know, they had to

(27:53):
do what they had to do because they felt like
he wasn't going to come back. So, you know, a
lot of time, I just feel like some of the athletes,
knowing they're giving an interview and they're being put on
the spot, you know, they don't physically come out and say,
you know, it was a financial decision. But I think
we kind of all knew it was a financial decision,

(28:13):
and I kind of think, you know, yeah, we we
just seen the writing on the wall. So I loved
the fact that.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
We got parades.

Speaker 9 (28:21):
He's doing very well, and I think the future for
that is bright. I think you know, the Astros could
in fact extend them depending on what the kid they drafted,
you know the other night, you know, in the first round.

Speaker 10 (28:35):
What he would do.

Speaker 9 (28:36):
But yeah, I love parades, and I don't blame Alex
Bregman for doing what was right for his family. It's
just sometimes you just got to come out and say,
you know what it was really all about.

Speaker 7 (28:47):
Got it? Jason, Appreciate it, buddy.

Speaker 6 (28:49):
I mean, you know, I think also too, you know,
to the point that Jason just brought up there, Sean,
is that a little bit of the guys before Alex
Bregman helps him mount George Springer left and there wasn't
any vitriol with that. It was, Hey, they didn't really
try to make much of a run at you to
bring you back, so go be great in Toronto.

Speaker 7 (29:09):
Same deal with Carlos Correa. I mean, fans wanted him back.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
You felt like he was the backbone, the cornerstone of
this organization. What's gonna happen to that clubhouse leadership? But hey, look,
if Minnesota wants to drop the bag on you go
to Minnesota, that's fine. And for Bregman, I think it
was kind of the same deal. It was a little
bit of a foregone conclusion even before because I mean,
let's just take it back to you know, when we

(29:32):
were in the middle of him entering in the free
agency and then going through free agency. I don't think
there was a single one of us speaking in any
of these microphones Sean that really felt like he was
going to be back with his.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Team, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Well a year before that, I don't think many people
felt it was it was a hope, not a kind
of like the corea. There was hope if you if
you get him. What an unbelievable bonus, it'll be, but
you just kind of followed the business model of how
they're doing it. You figured it wasn't gonna happen. But
it was no surprise when he left. It just wasn't.

(30:06):
It was no surprise because and I don't begrudge him either.
I know that sometimes I think how much money does
a guy need? I don't know how much each guy
needs or what it's for is an ego pride, But listen,
if we're all faced with the same thing we have
to make business decisions people do every day.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Just apply it to your job. It's all relative.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Doesn't matter if his is fifty million in yours is
five hundred thousand or fifty thousand. It's relative. So I
don't ever have a problem with a guy go and
get paid. Now. If a guy's under contract for three
years and then demands, like in football, give me a
new contractor I want this player empowerment, I'm going to
force my way out. He wouldn't force his way out.
Is asked to be sitting at home until he reported
the camp. That's the way I look at it. But

(30:43):
in this case free agent, I'm never going to bed
grudge a guy for going and getting paid.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
It's on him.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
And he gave this city great memories, as did Korea,
and quite frankly, I guess we overrated just how important
one guy's leadership was. Leadership does matter and buy and
it is huge to have great leadership. But this clubhouse
has been policing leadership wise itself. Oh, how are we
going to overcome? Springer was a great you know, a
great table setter and great leadoff in man, we're going

(31:09):
to miss that energy. You miss it, but you moved
on and he won a World Series since he left Korea.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
You want a world sais? How are we going to
miss that guy?

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Him being the heel and the Dodgers and playing great
it's Carlins Cray Well, uh, they're nobody talking about Carlos
Frea when painus here the way he's playing, and that's
no disrespect to Korea. You just replaced him with a
guy who's pretty damn good. That same thing here. Preatus
came in and did it. Now the we got to
see bigger body of work for Paradis. But how we're
going to replace Alex Bregman's leadership, Well, eighty games into it,

(31:38):
there are ninety games into it. They're they're doing a
pretty good job of it. So while leadership matters, sometimes
we think, Wow, one guy's gone, what are we going
to do well? This locker room's created a culture that
somebody else, whatever it is, whether it's loud or not talking,
or a vocal leader or a performance leader, whatever it is,
they seem to have done it. So I never get
mad at a guy for leaving. I know sometimes we

(32:00):
attach ourself the emotions of a player. If you look
at it as business, it won't be the last guy
that leaves. You're gonna have to deal with possibly fromber
getting away, You're gonna have to deal with Payne a
few years from now. You're gonna mean, it's gonna pop
up all the time. It's business and it's not personal,
and if somebody makes it personal, well then that's on them.
So I don't ever have a problem with it. Ever,
even if you were losing a guy that you'd like

(32:20):
to have, imagine if they were all here. But if
they were all here, you wouldn't know who Jeremy Payne is.
If Carlos Carey was here, pay you would have probably
been included in some trade somewhere and would have been
playing for somebody else. So you get to see guys
that you say, okay, what are they all about and
find out what their guts are about. And I think
we get a pretty good idea that this team there
is life after Carlos Krea, George Springer, Alex Bragman, Justin Verlander.

(32:44):
There simply is this pitching staff's been every bit as
good without the starting pitching. Now, you got to make
sure you stay that way. But over the course of time,
this team stepped right up and that's hard to do,
which is probably their biggest Their most valuable trait is
the ability just to keep on doing their thing regardless
of what the unit.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Who's in the wrapper.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Now, you got to get talent's talent, but this team
does a great job of bringing talent in and up.
So you create a space and sometimes when you do that,
you find a gym, and they found a handful of them.
So while you miss those players because what they did here,
their impact was felt, you move on.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
It happens all the time.

Speaker 6 (33:24):
Well, and it's hard to argue with the Astros results
for everything you just laid out there. Of you know,
a guy leaves, somebody else steps in and does an
admirable job, but also too, I mean, I think for
most of our audience, who are people in the workforce
and have every day adult problems, bills, all that other
stuff that usually people who fit into that type of lifestyle,

(33:47):
you would say, Hey, you know what, I don't regretge
somebody because I mean I always love that. Oh hey,
how much money does this guy need? Well, how much
money can I get? Because guess what, I only get
so many chances to be able to get this type
of life changing money. Why would I give them the
break when they're the ones who have more of it
that they could be able to spend on me as
opposed to, you know, giving them a discount. Don't don't

(34:10):
give people who can give you a lot.

Speaker 7 (34:11):
Of money a discount.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Listen. I don't know growing up and my family was
a blue collar family. My dad and my mom worked
and they bust their ass, But I've always felt like
we had plenty of food and the rest of it
we were well taken care of.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
So I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
You don't know when you're growing up with the differences
because your parents do a pretty damn good job. Excuse
me of protecting that and making sure you're secure. But
I did you know all that money? And I know
it would be easy to say damn. We'd all like
to say, man, what would it be like to have
twenty five million dollars signing bonus? It'd be great, But
it is relative. And when people and we say how
much money, I get it. But they just have a

(34:44):
different skill set than the rest of us, and so
they're going to get paid for it, just like everybody
in other walks of life. I mean, a singer that
entertains us, they'll make fifty million bucks on a concert tour.
We don't ever, we don't ever talk about their salaries.
Never a comedian goes on the road and you know,
makes one hundred thousand dollars a show, and he's on
the road for fifty weeks or forty weeks or twenty

(35:07):
eight weeks, we're not talking about that. It just seemed
because the ask the salaries of the players are put
in front of us in the newspaper. We talked about it,
and I understand the disdain for man. Man wouldn't be
like great to make that money, But it is relative.
And the truth is, if I talk to a person
who's in tech or in the oil and gas business,
and they're working for one company as a senior vice

(35:27):
president and they're making a million bucks a year, and
somebody comes up and says, hey, we'd like to we
we would really like to bring you over to our company,
but you're gonna have to relocate, but we're gonna pay
you a million dollars more and make you the CFO.
What are you doing, You're leaving? You're damn right, you
are so hey, you're the head of that. You're there,
You're you're the our top orthopedic surgeon.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Here.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
We want to make you chief of staff at the
at the Mayo Clinic in Arizona or you know one
of those places. They're Oh, when it's a half a
million dollar increase in pay and I'm the cheapest staff,
when do you need me there? It's just it's life.
It's just we see the athlete. Sorry, they don't know
what we make. We know what they make. And it's

(36:10):
hard to understand. But if you want to go for
an extra million dollars, that's on you, and some of
us can't understand it. You got to go where makes
you happy, And these players seem to do it quite well.

Speaker 7 (36:20):
Get the bag man. That's the rule in life.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
Roger c right there, get you involved in the conversation.
Also too much of a surprise that the Astros have
played the way that they have.

Speaker 7 (36:31):
So far to this point of the season.

Speaker 6 (36:33):
We'll talk about that here as we continue here on
the Sean Salisbury Show. Our one is still rolling along
here on Sports Talk seven ninety Sports.

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Speaker 11 (38:38):
Oh, good morning, fellows. I just want to to comment
about a third base with the deg Man uh and
uh radius was the last time Reggy had nineteen home
works for the also games at the nineteen all right, I.

Speaker 6 (38:56):
Mean that that would be my guess, I just without
knowing the season breakdowns.

Speaker 7 (39:02):
Yeah, I would say that's probably right.

Speaker 11 (39:05):
Yeah, So I'll you know, we're not really missing anything
at third base. It might have been a little bit
of an upgrade just defensively. You might be down just
the snitch, but not much because I'm surprisingly for editor
has been playing some really nice third base uh and
he's been pretty durable, So I have no complaints about

(39:26):
what happened. Well, I mean, you know, I'll bring he's
a you know, a legacy player in a sentimental favorite.
But you're not missing anything with ps and on the uh,
the I see the draft and UH looks like the
ass are CoA mode. You know, they're preparing for that,

(39:47):
for that switch between the opinion and maybe in the
future if a Moores, you know, you know, he opinion
decides to say, hey, you know you just can't afford
me ass you're here to go to train keeps movement.
I guess it's it's pretty cool to see that, you
know that the Bengal don't break way of going about
life from it. For the Strows, it's pretty it's pretty amazing.

(40:08):
That's see that these guys are always in one step
of the head curve somehow some way. But we really
need to get our guys back and get on this
get on this home stretch man. You really need to
get some help going on. And that's what I say.
Helped them come back. And you know, sky in dances,
but I'm just gonna see what happening Duck tape and

(40:30):
blue lineup? Uh much?

Speaker 7 (40:32):
Rider h.

Speaker 6 (40:37):
Hey, appreciate it. Roger, I mean, you know Sean to
Rogers point there. I mean when Carlos Carella left, it
helped that Jeremy Painia came in, he hits the walk
off early on the season and also able to have
the postseason he did. And then for Peretis to play
defensively the way he has at third base.

Speaker 7 (40:56):
And oh, by the way.

Speaker 6 (40:57):
He is the team leader in home runs too, So
all of that definitely helps if the next guy is
able to come out and have a strong performance after
the previous guy who made all his bones.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
You want to I want you to think about this
for a second. Add all that you come to new team,
you have to fit in as a rookie in right field,
in as a third baseman in Peretis, and think about
what you're replacing. Think about the three Pania knew. Let's
go to shorts up too. Penia knew what he was
replacing and knew it was a tall task. All he
did was when the MVP and the Alcs in the

(41:30):
World Series and win a ring as a rookie, and
now look at the way he's playing. Parretis comes in here,
he knows what the chatter is. It's Alex Bregman, one
of the best third basement in the league and beloved here.
Bam comes in here and steps up under pressure, not
just being on a new team in expectations, but answers it.
And then you get the right fielder who's a rookie
still trying to figure out how to play baseball as

(41:52):
talented as he is. Waitill he figures it out, and
you got a right fielder who's like Ale. He may
be half a season away from four hundred millions and
Cam Smith and not a lot of people as much
we love Kyle Tucker. The excitement for Cam Smith makes you, oh,
it's good, We're okay with it now. So you think
about what they've done. You want to talk about pressure
and being able to overcome it. And now all you

(42:13):
got to do is hope that Christian Walker gets rolling
and says, Okay, I want to go back and make
you guys know that I can give you the glove
you he gave you, and I'm about to give you
the same bat too. And if he does, then then boom, boom, boom.
All of them are touched and every single one of
them but credits to these guys. Okay, it's a tough
task to replace. Sometimes you want to replace the guy

(42:34):
that replaced the guy. That's usually especially in hoping that
the guy that replaced the guy wasn't as good as
the guy that replaced the guy that replaced the guy.
Get my point, So all that replaced the guys My
point is simple that when you have all that to
do and you got those expectations, sometimes you press too
much and it's tough on your first year to get
settled in. Not any of those guys the third base

(42:54):
right field have done exactly what they're supposed to do
in the shortstop's been doing it the postseason and now
having his best year ever, so it's pretty impressive.

Speaker 7 (43:03):
Well, good thing.

Speaker 6 (43:03):
Dana Brown told the Cubs, hey, Cam Smith or this
deal is off, we're not doing it, and sure enough
the Cubs said, all right, well we'll go ahead and
do it. But anyway, it's worked out incredibly well. We'll
continue the Astros conversation if you want someone three two
on two five seven ninety against someone three two on
two five seven ninety. But Sean, with us being here
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(43:26):
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Speaker 6 (46:08):
But Sean, as we all know, me and Gordy here
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because I was talking with Gordy yesterday about there is
always a first day news dump. There is what three
years ago or so, whenever the report came out that
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(46:32):
I mean as the week went on, people are vetting
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to the SEC. And I mean it's been many different
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quarterback who does work with ESPN and also does a
morning show over in Birmingham, with the report yesterday that

(46:52):
he's spoken with someone in the know that Nick Saban
is going to make a return to coaching.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
No surprise. He's great at TV. Now here's the deal.
He's done it perfectly. He's prepared TV just like he
does football. He's funny. We've seen a sense of personality
that maybe people didn't know Nick Saban had. He's fun,
he drops s bombs on college game day. He's been
a great addition and he's a phenomenal teacher on TV.

(47:21):
I wish we could get more of it. I mean,
when it comes out there says hey, Nick, what do
you think about the game today? Nick's first comment isn't, Well,
you know what, it's a black quarterback versus white quarterback.
That's not Unfortunately, it's some of these networks. That's the conversation,
and we're fatigued by the crap. He comes on there
on the best college pregame show on the planet and
talks to you about football situations, leadership, the things we

(47:43):
want to hear. We want all that other stuff. We
get it when we turn on another channel. And so
he's played it perfectly. He hasn't jumped into all that
frey of hot take crap.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
He comes on.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
He's got a good personality and he's Nick Saban the coach,
and he's bringing us inside his meeting room and huddle
and the stuff he talked to his players about that
is priceless for all of us. It's a great learning experience.
Nick Saban's great TV. He just is and he's done
it perfect couple of years of that, I'm gonna tell you,
and I don't. I won Greg McElroy's side and I

(48:13):
trust him and his sources. And for a guy who
played for the guy too, right, I'm just telling him here.
Here's the deal is. Nick Saban didn't get out because
he's not. In my opinion, Nick Saban didn't get out
of this because he was tired of coaching, burned out
of coaching and making a difference in young people's lives
and winning. He'll and one thing, let me back up

(48:34):
a bit. TV will always be clamoring for him. Now
when he leaves, they'll be He'll he'll have a three
million dollar four million dollar TV job whenever he wants it.
But he probably didn't get it out of him. Oh,
I expect him to come back. I did when he
went there. What he's done is post his score shot
a sixty three at the Masters or now the British Open,
and now he could do what he wants because TV

(48:56):
is never going away, and he'll come back in football,
come back.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
Oh what was it like?

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Then the next time he gets into TV in ten
years or whatever it is, if he wants to do
it again. He'll come back and everybody will say, ooh,
what was it like going and coming back?

Speaker 4 (49:08):
So it's a new experience.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
I'm gonna tell you when he's coming back is when
they start to level off this NIL get it in
place with the proper rules and the proper you know, legislation.
I don't want to not government, but the just the
way we make sure we regulate NIL can't hash cash
hand to hand with all this revenue sharing, where we

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get the NIL transfer portal under control, that ran him out.
Nick Saban lost the edge. Not that these team wasn't
any good Nick Saban's. He'll tell you there may be coaches.
Nick Saban's greatest is his ability to recruit. Now it's
no longer we get a coach on I'm telling you what.
No longer am I asking coaches, Hey, what do you

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got to be a better recruiter, a better banker and
an ATM machine? And they got to be a better
It's taken it away from a lot of them, the
great recruiters. We've kind of eliminated him. And when I
say eliminate him, you still got to be a good
recruiter to get in their door. But you better have
hand to Hey, you better have cash ready to tell
these good players, why are you come here?

Speaker 10 (50:07):
Now?

Speaker 1 (50:08):
The recruiting's down to the guy who may not be
the four or five star, but a guy you need
on your roster for depth because it's not going to
get a bunch of nil money. That's when the recruiting
comes in. But the big dogs it's now. It's like eh,
even a legacy player is going somewhere else unless you're
paying him properly. So Nick Saban, if he's coming back,
I'm telling and I believe he is. Nick Saban's coming back.

(50:29):
It will be too when all this stuff is say,
he's not going to come back in the fray of it,
you know why because he doesn't want to. He wants
to come back. Okay, now the rules are in place,
we got this, this, this this. He's precise and dynamic
and everything that he does. And I've been around him
in person and watched him over the years. Try to
study people a lot smarter and better than I am,

(50:50):
and he is meticulous and everything he does. He will
come back. If he is coming back, which I believe
he is, He'll come back when the nil settled, when
it's a little more when it's not so much nonsense
where his recruiting can jump back into play because the
cash made Hell Texas Tech now is going to be
one of the biggest players. Not they're not a good
football program, but you didn't put the you didn't have

(51:11):
them on your Bengo cards. Dominating nil and being a
major player, getting five, six, seven, top type of being
a top ten recruiting class. Good program, but you just thought, well,
the big dogs are going to get that. Well, they've
jumped into it. Why they know how to they they've
turned it into a business. They understand the business model
and they're creating wanted Texas Tech. Once that's all settled in,
then Nick Saban gets to come back. And now it's

(51:33):
not like I can't keep guy got a recruit, Guy
gotta do all this stuff. Guys are getting ready to transfer.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
I got to do this.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
And what a great story, I mean a great point
by Lane Kiffin yesterday and this is this is Saban
to a t. They won the national championship and are
walking out the field. Nick Saban had a seven or
seven thirty AM meeting the next day after the national championship.
The very next morning after the celebrations, they were in
the coaching staff was in a meeting, and you know

(52:00):
what he said. He said, because we've won the national title,
we played longer than everybody else, they're ahead of us
in recruiting. We got to get to work. That's the
morning after the national championship. Now you tell me if
that guy's not out of his damn mind in a
good way. So and that helped it. That's helped Lane Kiffin.

(52:20):
So Nick, oh, I believe he's coming back, but it's
going to be on the terms. When everything's settled in
and it's calmed down, then he gets to come back
in and do his thing. Or you're not losing out
to somebody you would in Alabama would never lose the
recruit to. But lost out because somebody offered four million
dollars more than you're willing to. That took Nick's great
edge away. Now it's we're on equal ground for the

(52:43):
twenty fifth ranked team in the country. But if they
got money, now Nick Saban doesn't get to steal. And
when I say steal, I mean legally still take that
guy because he's a great recruiter. So yeah, oh, he's
coming back. But if that doesn't tell you the exact
story of how this guy is that that DNA.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
Is competitive man.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
And while he's probably gets some of it on TV,
I can tell you this from a guy who played
it and has been on TV.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
It's not the same.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
It is just not the same of that that moving
in your gut, the butterflies. And I know he takes
it serious, and I know he works and prepares. It's
just different. And you know what you coach it, why
you can't. I do believe he's coming back, and it'll
be when all this college football, when there's actually got
we got a wall around what's going on here. He
doesn't like open doors like that. And once they can

(53:28):
close that off and he can put that fence around
the nil and the transfer portal, then Nick Saban, if
he's coming back, which a lot of people believe he is,
like Greg McElroy, then Nick Saban will come back and
he'll have his choice of any team in America that
wants a guy that's going to take them somewhere. He's
won everywhere, he'll win again if he comes back.

Speaker 6 (53:47):
Well, And also to think about it this way too,
who's his best friend Belichick? And how is Belichick set
up Carolina Football. Michael Lombardi, you're the GM so and
so you're taking care of this. I mean, basically, don't
you think that Probably there's a little bit of likes
to this where he talked with Belichick, and Belichick said, hey,
you don't have to do all that. I'm not doing

(54:07):
any of that stuff. I'll go to a high school
every once in a while, I'll meet with a kid.
But aside from that, anybody has anything about, hey, I
want more money in the image of likeness, go talk
to Lombardi.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Right, And there's no doubt you would. Bill has hired
people to treat it like an NFL franchise. That's exactly
what he's done. And quite frankly, just like Mike Gundy said,
if their employees, we got start treating them like emplays,
and that's exactly what Belichick's doing now. And you say, well,
how do you do that with an eighteen nineteen year old,
Well they eighteen nineteen year old better adjust that share
is a simple fact. So yeah, he's talking to Belichick.

(54:39):
We wouldn't well think about anything you go through. You
got a best friend in the world. When you have
something going on, and you don't want to conversations that
you two only share with each other that are wrapped
around and protected you Damn right, wouldn't you anything of
my best friend if I have it, especially if they're
in the same business. I'm going, hell yeah, I'm leaning
on him, just like I would expect them to lean
on me. And the greatest thing about both of the

(55:00):
those guys, aside from him, you know, as far as
how they go about it is they're never comfortable thinking
they've learned it all. And that's another reason why their
success continues.

Speaker 14 (55:10):
Now.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
I don't know how North Carolina's going to do, but
that's why they're successful, and people want to be around
him and want to want to want to hire them
because they make sure that everything's done right and they
do not.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
There's no stone unturned.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Talk to players that have played for both of them
and ask them the attention to detail what those meetings
were like. They'll have talked to plenty of them. They'll
tell you I've never been able to play with both.
I've had conversations with both. But you talk to those guys,
whether they like them or not, they will respect them
and they will be prepared. You damn right, Saban talks
to Belichick as he should, just like Bill. I guarantee

(55:43):
you leaned on Nick to get back to North Carolina
to come to college. He had to Nick, what's this like? Man,
what am I in for? Well, of course he did
and helped him prepare for that. That's what good friends
do and great coaches do. You lean on other people
to get insight. Nick Snaven never wanted to play fast
and do that. Say he wants to win seventeen to thirteen.
Then Nick, Then all of a sudden, there's Lane Kiffin

(56:04):
and Steve Sarkizi in come right and said, the only
way you're going to keep up with the way these
kids play now is you're gonna have to learn to
play fast, even though you hate it. And now Nick
Saban's teams will. They were pumping forty points and throwing
thirty five times a game. That's who and that's why
college football needs him. And I think Lane Kiffin also
made a really good point, and I agree. While broadcasting's fine,

(56:25):
his impacts even far wider when the kids I almost
feel like we're getting cheated not having him coach, if
that makes sense. The coaching business misses out on Nick Saban,
the TV business comes and goes, you can. I mean,
it's the thing what Saban does is he's teaching on
TV like he does.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
In the building when he's playing, when he's coaching.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Yeah, there is absolutely no doubt college football needs guys
like Nick Saban, and what a story it's going to
be when he does come back.

Speaker 6 (56:51):
It will be fun for sure, and hopefully it's to
a program near us. I mean, you mentioned Texas Tech
as a possibility Nick Saban and Lubbock something to think about,
but anything.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
Oh no, I didn't mean to say even going to
Texas Tech. They're they're well coached.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Now I just met when he gets to Texas tech's
a great poster child for a team that's good in
a good, solid program, but it's grown with good coaching
and then built. This said, you know what, We've got
a lot of money out here in West Texas and
great alumni, so let's start leaning on him and their
business models outstanding. Oh, if they win, they're not gonna
need Nick Saban, and they're gonna they're pretty damn competitive already,
so but Saban will have his way. It's gonna be weird.

(57:27):
If he comes back and it doesn't happen to be Now,
if Kleb real real quick, Kayln de Boor, if they
struggle the next two years, even though he's a good coach,
will that be kind of the timing they need? It'll
be weird if he's in a different uniform. Will you
never know how this works out?

Speaker 8 (57:42):
Now?

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Think about that story going.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Back to TUSCALUSI if all of a sudden, Kaylen de
Boor either wins the title and goes the NFL, or
they don't make it and they win nine games the
next two years, think about that one now, and and
how that would look. Seeing Nick Saban in a USC
uniform will be nice too. But we got a coach
right now, so we'll see how that looks. And remember,
we got a lot of money there. At see there's
a lot of money there, and we really don't know

(58:06):
what's gonna happen with that defense, and and uh are
Lincoln Riley great play caller? But what just start to
look at the timing and look at the people who
may be on a hot seat, and think about the timing.
Cause he ain't coming back to coach slippery Rock. I'll
tell you that Okay, no offense to you, slippery Rock columb.

Speaker 6 (58:26):
That you even Shawn Sean Sean that that's something to
think about, right, I already have defense and higher offensive coaches.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Already have Okay, well ahead of it, and put it
this way. If it doesn't work out with with if
Lincoln Riley doesn't get them going, and they don't, they're
not in the playoff in the next year or two.

Speaker 7 (58:44):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
A matter of fact, I'm already on the phone.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Just keep in mind, Nick, when you decide you're done
talking about sports, come back here. And I wouldn't do
that because I'd be back if I was the eight.
I wouldn't do that to Lincoln Riley. But oh, there's
no doubt. And if you're in a I can tell
you this for an alumni, they're in former players. They
stand in line. Matter of fact, they go beat down
the AD's door and say pay him whatever you have to,
give him an open check book and bring him there
and just keep it in mind.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
You never know.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
But there's a couple jobs in this country right now
that hot seat coaches that are really good. But if
they don't win and get to a playoff, LSU is
another one. I don't know think he's going back, but
Brian's got some pressure to go out there and get
him to the playoff. So it's it's it's illumin I'm
sure we'll get to talk to Matt mscon about that. Yep.

Speaker 6 (59:25):
Definitely still trying to get a time walk down for Matt.
But coming up next, this group of people get way
too much credit for the dumbest things.

Speaker 7 (59:36):
We'll talk about it here.

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Speaker 6 (01:00:13):
The stakeout here on a Tuesday Sports Talk seven to
ninety MLB All Star Game tonight. Cal Rawley wins the
home run derby last night, Sean, we hear it all
the time when it comes to certain fan bases, like
for us being here at SEC Media Days. You know,
the LSU fan base has a reputation of being a

(01:00:33):
rowdy fan base that if you're an opposing fan showing
up in Baton Rouge, Well, it could be a rough
afternoon for you. I mean, you know, just list goes on.
You go up to Columbus, Ohio, Ohio state fans, they're
rough to deal with. But then on the pro side,
there's two cities that seemingly get the benefit of the
doubt when it comes to being a rough rowdy sports fans.

Speaker 7 (01:00:53):
Philadelphia is one of them.

Speaker 6 (01:00:55):
And what's the thing that's always said whenever you mentioned Philadelphia? Philadelphia, Oh,
they boot Santa Claus. That was like ninety years ago.
Like most people don't even know about that. But anyway,
I mean, you hear the stories of you know, Astros
fans and they're up there, they're in the World Series
in twenty two. How those interactions were Mattress mac with
Philly fans, But then New York sports fans the same deal.

(01:01:17):
And honestly, Sean, I bring this up because there is
something that ties into it, which I'll get to in
a second, but I mean, I'll just go ahead and
start it off with asking you doesn't it get annoying
like to hear that about certain fan bases and getting
the reputation for being.

Speaker 7 (01:01:33):
A certain way.

Speaker 6 (01:01:33):
Like, why is it that nobody pushes back on the
misnomer that New York sports fans are the best sports
fans in the world. They're just like any other city.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Well, I would disagree on there, just like any other city,
because I can tell you this in certain city. I've
played in Philadelphia and in New York, and they are different. Now,
you may not like their different because they're a little bit.
I mean, when you have to in the old Vet Stadium,
when you have to keep a when you have a
jail a judge down at the bottom of the stadium,

(01:02:05):
you know, putting people in that, you know, getting fights
in the stadium when you have in the stadium, did
you know it's a little bit rowdy. I love passionate fans.
The one thing I know about both those cities, they're passionate.
But if you are an excuse maker or you are
a and they're just different. They're more abrasive. Same with Boston,
they just are. That doesn't make them bad. But I

(01:02:26):
know we don't. Like I'm just telling you from mine
because I'm not from Houston. I'm from San Diego, but
I'm a California guy. But I am a Texas guy. Now,
the fan base in San Diego great fans, far different
than the fan base in Philly. I just tell whether
it's the casual part of it showing up late Dodger
fans is passion they can be. They ain't Philadelphia fans
or New York fans. Now does that mean it's always good?

(01:02:47):
Not at all. So they get credit for and I
do hear a lot of people go off on them
whenever there's a these lists in poll questions. Okay, the
toughest fan bases are in the worst fan based in sports.
How some people perceive it outside those cities is, oh,
it'll always start with Philly, New York. It'll always start there,
always does. So they put it this way, it's like

(01:03:07):
the troll. They've put themselves on the map of that
because they're passionate. And if you talk to players that
have been in those cities when it's going good, they're
the best in the world if you're winning and it's
going good. If it's not, don't make excuses and do
your thing. So they do get a lot of credit.
But there's when you're saying it's like a lot of
other fan base that are passing. Yeah, we got good
fans here. There's great fans, and when they go to
watch the Giants play in San Francisco or the Dodgers

(01:03:30):
get the people turn out to their game just a
little late.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
It is different.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
It's different at New York if Madison Square Garden for
the Knicks than.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
It is for the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
It just it's always been that way, So there is
something to it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
I don't know if it's the way, just the.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Culture in the city and it's just a summer a
little more abrasive. Minnesota fans may not be as abrasive
as Philly fans, and they're not, but they can still
be opinion aid still be strong.

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
And you know what is it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
I think there's a great fans in every city that
know a lot about sports, and I think then they're
the fans that are front running, that like you when
you win and can't stand you when you lose. And
that may be the case with they're too, but we're
all like that. So it is different. Whether you like
the you want to give them credit for being good
or bad, that's fine. And I think they relish and
embrace when people they like me in the heel I'm

(01:04:16):
telling you, they enjoy the fact that when you come
to THEIRS, they've already gotten people's head. Not here, but
they've gotten people's head before you show up in their building.
They just have because you know what you're I played there,
and I didn't my mom didn't try. My parents didn't
go to that game because of the fact that, hey man,
they're posing. And I love even as it opposed. I

(01:04:36):
love when I went to the Raiders. We used to
play the Raiders in Oakland, that black hole. I love
that even as a visiting team, just because they're passion
for their team. So I guess that's how you look
at it. So while we may not consider them the
best fan base because well it's New York and it's Philly,
but they they are passionate and listen to her you

(01:04:57):
know this, Listen to a radio show in Philly after
a law US the Uneagles loss, or go to listen
to the Red I've hosted show in Boston, and I'm
just telling you that it is. It is crazy how
they doesn't make them better. They're just different. But they
were probably a little more abrasive, so you got to
know what you're getting into. So when you go sign there.

(01:05:17):
That's why some people have never had success in New York. Oh,
great player, a pitcher goes there, and if he's not
mentally tough, they'll run your ass out. You better be
mentally tough if you're playing in those places, because there
are softer fan bases there, just are.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
You can look around the league.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
You ain't getting the same abuse in Tampa or the
same expectations in Tampa as you are now some fans,
but the overall thought process as you are in Philly,
You're just not.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
I actually like those passionate fan bases at root and
are stand by their city no matter what. Even on
the outside you can't stand them because of it. Yeah,
trust me. The reputation is earned in those cities, and
it is different, and it's a lot tougher on the
home player who's struggling because they will do they'll run
you out. But if you're a non excuse maker and

(01:06:03):
you can compete and you win there, yeah, you will
never buy a drink or pay for a meal a
day in your life in those cities. But the expectations
are different from a fan base, and the media is different.
The media is just more different than They're just different.
They just are. If you're a soft media person you
can't handle criticism, don't go work there because you won't last.

(01:06:23):
And I look at it different as I've been on
both sides of it. I love their passion. That doesn't
mean I don't want to fight with them, because I've
I can tell you some funny stories at the super
Bowl when I was, when it was at Jacksonville with
Philly fans, the straight bitch slap to the face ended
one of them's conversation. I can tell you that, And
it was and it was a level right there in

(01:06:44):
Ruth Chris Steakhouse. Remind me to tell you that story
one day. So, yeah, but my respect for them, at
least their passion for their fan base. While different, they
still have passion and they are showing up and that's
a good thing.

Speaker 6 (01:06:57):
Yeah, I would say Chris bitch slash would probably be
able to be.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
A well it ended, it ended, It ended. It ended
that conversation. And uh, when it's one on three and
one of them gets bitch slapped and then they get
escorted out. They they picked the wrong what they say
they picked the they picked the wrong what? What movie
is that they picked the wrong What what movie did
I just see? Anyway? They at that night, they just
they just picked the wrong troll time and it and

(01:07:24):
it wasn't It didn't end up good for them. So
there you go.

Speaker 7 (01:07:27):
The checks were bouncing, they were not cashing.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
They didn't get to eat. Let's just put it that way.
Matter of fact.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
You know how you know on that in that Uh,
when do you see a cartoon when a character gets
as you know, they they like a character will get
hit and their their teeth will run down the street
or you know one of those you know, when you'll
see it, they'll see that that. That's about what it
was like. It was and I don't mean this paddle bag.
It was epic and it was a it was a
Hall of Fame night. And then I sat back down
and finished my beer and had misteak as if nothing happened,

(01:07:54):
and I was in a coat and tie.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
So that ended that one.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
You'll no longer be offensive to the people set to
the table, and uh, that goes on one of my
one of my great Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
Reels in my own mind.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Yeah, it was. It was a good night. But but
they can but I still love them because I love
their passion and that's I'm I'm a I'm a glutton
for punishment when it comes to that.

Speaker 7 (01:08:16):
Well, sometimes lessons have to be taught.

Speaker 6 (01:08:18):
What brought this on was Xander Schaffley's dad, who I
guess has been his longtime coach, talking with the Times
of London saying that he's not going to go to
the Ryder Cup, which golf. I mean, you wouldn't think
that there'd be rowdy fans, not gonna go to not
gonna go to New York. He was there whistling when
they called Shane Lowry's wife a whore. I couldn't believe
my ears. But it's like, all right, I get it,

(01:08:39):
New York sports fans. That's fine. I understand that people
get a little bit more rowdy because it's country against
continent for that event. But I don't think that New
York sports fans are going to be incredibly unruly at
the well, they'll just do I think. I think I
think Stephan can go.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Yeah, well, there's gonna be you know, they'll be rowdy
in between, hopefully not yelling in a guy's backswing. But
think about it, isn't there one of those fans everywhere,
isn't there one of those I wouldn't expect there's gonna
be fist fights at the Ryder Cup among fans from
Europe and US. They run him out there, It'll be fine.
So I think his dad's little hype block. Now why
you'd call Shane Lowry's mom a wife who is a

(01:09:17):
little bit beyond me, But that's unfortunately, one or two
always seem to represent a full fan base and they don't,
and it's not fair. I think he'll be fine, and
I don't think you want to miss watching your kid
play in the Ryder Cup, and it didn't down there
on Long Island. I think he'll be just fine. But yeah, see,
they'll get that reputa. It happens everywhere. Unfortunately, with name

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calling the rest of it New York and Philly, you're
always going to be at the top of the list
for people that want to pile on and they've earned it.
A lot of it's been self inflicted, but they'll be passionate.
I'm going to tell you what that Ryder Cup is
going to be rocking on Long Island.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
I assure you.

Speaker 7 (01:09:53):
Definitely will be fun.

Speaker 6 (01:09:54):
It is Sean Salisbury show here on a Tuesday seven
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Speaker 7 (01:10:01):
Get in.

Speaker 6 (01:10:02):
Let's get back into the Astros conversation, because optimism still
around for this team heading into the final sixty plus
games of this season. Will let you hear just how
optimistic some of these astros are right here on the
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It was I mean, it wasn't Eddie, it was those guys.
But for me, it was about a year ago is
when I found out that Michael McDonald was part of
the Doobie Brothers.

Speaker 7 (01:10:34):
I never knew.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
That's that's hard to fathom, but I get it because
you probably I think there's a long line of that yeah,
and Adobie Brothers that well, that cut right there, iconic
cut right taking it to the streets. I love Michael McDonald,
but I get it. Man. Well, now you know that
the Michael McDonald Doobie Brothers is just as famous, if

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not more as a as the frontman for the Doobie Brothers,
as opposed to doing his own thing, but he was
good at both. And the voice you there's certain guys
that you hear and you know who it is. Bob Dylan,
you know, we know who they are. And ladies as well.
You're Whitney Houston when she didn't you knew who she was.
And with Michael McDonald if you pay attention to music,

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and I know you do, but rather it's seventies eighties
and you know the voice and Michael McDonald's is pretty distinct.

Speaker 7 (01:11:23):
For sure, no doubt about it.

Speaker 6 (01:11:24):
But the MLB All Star Game coming up tonight, cal rally,
when's the home run Derby last night? And then a
couple of days away Sean the British Open Royal Port Rush.
As I gotta say, British Open week is always one
of my favorites because it's one of those that, like,
for us being on air as early as we are,
we've actually got live sports going on while we're on

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so that's nice. But then you know the weekend where
it kind of I feel like, is a little bit
of a primer for college football season that you know,
you get up there in college football season, maybe make
some breakfast tacos. You know, you don't want to go
to the cake cups for the coffee because you want
to actually have like the really good stuff that morning.

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So you know, I feel like the British Open kind
of gets me in that mood for just a handful
of Saturdays away from being able to watch college game
day and get ready for those eleven am games.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
No doubt, it's like the PreK It's like a little
appetizer leading in for these guys, it's a big meal though. Man.
I was watching on Golf Channel last night. I's spent
like thirty minutes listening to Darren Clark on the set
they were had with Brandal Chamblee and Paul Lowry and
they were talking about and Steve Sands. They were talking
about the golf course and Darren Clark is from He's

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played Royal Port Rush about eight million times. He's from
the air. Matter of fact, they'd put his name on
a hole, which is only three guys in the history.
And Darren Clark Senior Tours won a British Open before,
and he was talking about all the intricacies of the
golf course and what it means and what you got
to do there and I think we know that the weather,
the wind, and he was breaking down holes and how
you got to play and he said, if you're going

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to hit lob wedge around the greens here, no shot.
You got to be he said, you may have to
hit a four iron from one hundred and forty yards,
meaning either wind or just run it up there like
you're putting it and you made it what he said,
Oh anywhere ready, just putt it. I mean he was
talking about the creativity and that we've lost it in golf.
He was compliment, he goes, I love watching these young
guys vombit. He goes, but we have lost creativity when

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you're stepping up to a par five and you hit
it three seventy and you're and you're spinning this pitching
wedge one eighty one ninety and those guys are been
The creativity's out now. This golf course and this Major
is the way golf was supposed to be set up
in the first place.

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
You've got to be creative. You got to stay out
of bunkers.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
You got to be sometimes you're gonna have to play
backwards out of a bunker. You're gonna have to You're
gonna be at eighty yards away when normal guys would
just hit up a little flip wedge in there. Now
you're gonna putt it with a you might be putting
it with a four iron. I mean he was talking
about creativity and I was so intrigued. I love this too,
because when you wake up, it's on. And if you
want to see because creativity, shot makers, you better hit

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the ball in play and you better be able to
hit low high ball hitters got no.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
Shot there, And I can't wait to see it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Those guys that are creative and can hit low boring
draws into it and understand where to place it. But
you got to be able to hit a bunch of
well Texas wedges. And it may not just be a putter,
it may be an iron where normally the guys over
here in the United States, you hit a golf shot,
you're a one hundred and ten yards your lob wedge
in one end around there, you're gonna use all your

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clubs and if you're not creative, you can't. You can't
overpower the golf course because if you do, it'll roll.
You'll be playing from the ocean. So this is a
whole different one. And I friggin love the British Open. Well,
we don't even need to say the Open, as they
call it and I think this will be really cool
and bagpipes playing when you know, at the end of
the day, this is this is my style.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
I love it and I can't wait to see it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:46):
I always love whenever they do the presentation of the
Cleric jug the champion golfer of the year, whoever from
the RNA is the head of the royal and ancient
It's it's always one of my favorites. That's gonna be awesome.
Then they give the speech. I always love that they've
got the microphone right there and you have to speak
to everybody right there in the stadium on the eighteenth.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Yep, it's awesome, and that the setting will be phenomenon
and Darren Clark did a great job of describing it,
and I can't wait. I carry I'm carrying a golf
ball around in my pocket today. That's how. That's what
a whack job. I got a I got my golf
I got a golf ball. The little tailor made golf
ball in my hand right now, so I carry around
hoping it'll rub off on me when I go putt. Okay,

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so you know how football players at fumble carry a
football around with them like around their dorm room coaches.
Don't you, don't you let this out of your safe
sleep with it. I've gotten to the point where I'm
damn near about to start sleeping with a sand wedge
and a putter at night, so I can uh not
three put fifteen greens. So there you go. So I'm
carrying this around. I hope that it pays off because
man priorities in life. Man people have priorities. Minds. Be

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a better break six break seventy, which is going to
be that may never happen, but I'll tell you what,
I'll take a seventy five.

Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
It would be nice.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
So I'm carrying it around hopefully it'll rub off on me,
and I'm getting geared up two days before to watch
the British Open. I can't wait.

Speaker 6 (01:16:06):
Yeah, I'd be lying if I if I said I've
never gotten the work reached into you know, work pants
or even shorts that I'm wearing, and I'm like, h
there's a golf to you. Oh there's a ball mark,
all right. I guess I forgot to take that out before.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Oh I didn't. I actually I literally wasn't in these
are new shorts. I literally was in my golf bag
this morning before I came. He was just looking at
some stuff and had to look at a wedge. I
was looking at my golf bag and I grabbed a
ball out of it and brought it to work with
me and saying, this is gonna rub off. My game's
gonna be ripe. I'll never quit thinking about it. So
my obsession with golf has become you can measure it.

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I mean from a distance, you can feel it and
see it even though you can't. That's how I'm into this.

Speaker 7 (01:16:47):
Don't think of it as being obsessed.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Sean committed, Well, I am obsessed, committed OCD whatever, you know,
I'm really committed. I'm committed to try and be, you know,
a better, better player because you know you need help along.
Way I'm going to tell you for me is that
I I'm right now like it is like it my

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thought process. They're like, okay, when you're doing stuff, you
just stuff like okay, man, what do I do with
this shot? And I'm sitting here it just it's like
and I didn't used to be like this. I mean
I used to like it, but now you know, every
new hat comes out, well, how would that look with
these shorts and then this golf ball. So I'm probably
sure there's a lot of people that are listening that
feel the same way. You know what I want, you know,
and I want to forget all that going on there
in the NFL live and do that that I've been there,

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done that talking football. I want to have a job.
I want to be an analyst on Golf Channel. I
want to say. I want to say, that's what I
want to do, and it's not going to happen because
I didn't play pro golf, but that's what I want
to do. Well, then again, a lot of people didn't
play a sport and they're talking about it on to you.
That's what I want to do. I want to if, if,
if people who didn't play quarterback can talk about quarterback
on the set to talk about sports, and why can't

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I audition and go, uh do a studio And now
I'm telling me I'm leaving it at all for that.
You say, Sean, you're the analyst with Brandal Shambly and
then I get to argue with him, which would be
fun about golf. That's what I want to do. That's
the gig. That's the gig. If somebody wants me to
leave for a gig. That's the what I'm leaving for now.
I still do this show, but wherever I gotta go,
I'm in because that's that's like. I watch it and

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probably bores people, but I watch all the I watched
that all the time, so and I was it was
getting interrupted my home run Derby watch last night, which
I didn't watch, but I watched Darren Clark tell me
how to play Royal Port Rush and I'm not even
competing in the tournament. That's what an idiot I am.
So and now I'm carrying golf balls in my pocket.
So I got I got problems, man, Just so you know, no, no, no, no,
of course you already knew I had problems. This just

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adds to them.

Speaker 7 (01:18:37):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
But good problems, problems.

Speaker 7 (01:18:40):
It is.

Speaker 6 (01:18:40):
It's a good problem to have. It's like having too
many offensive or defensive linemen.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
Here you go.

Speaker 6 (01:18:44):
It's a good problem to havelf And we we always
we always want good problems, not the other way around,
all right, Sean. Something that I know that you've touched
on a little bit, and we'll get to here on
the other side. Because when helping people out, just isn't
good enough for someone. We'll talk about it here. It
is Sean Salisbury Show on a Tuesday. As we continue

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to roll along here Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Salisbury sho show, That's good.

Speaker 6 (01:19:15):
The head coach at Miami Northwestern High School there in
South Florida, and he revealed yesterday on social media that
he has been suspended as the coach because there was
a July seventh social media post in which Bridgewater acknowledged
that he has covered transportation meals in recovery related costs

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for players during the twenty twenty four season. He took
the Facebook yesterday and said, damn people done caused all
this confusion. Got a phone call tonight and it's no
real investigation going on. I told you I have to
be an employee to be investigated. Now the paperwork thing
still stands, but there was no investigation. We self reported

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all of this really kind of to me, Sean, seems
like a bunch of nothing. But it is like also
too that you know people in power that want to say,
oh no, no, no, no, no, we got to play within
the rules.

Speaker 7 (01:20:09):
What are we really talking about here?

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
Well, you saw the list he paid to have the
field lined, get helping people with with I'm sure you
have the list in front of you brought it up.
But when people say, well did he break the rules,
and you do it, But when you see what he
was doing out of his own pocket? How rich is
this of the NFL? I mean of the NFL of
high school football in Florida and anywhere. You can pay

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a seventh grader, he can hire an agent. You can
start paying an eighth grader or ninth grader nil money.
Did you get a guy in a time when some
of these kids, honestly, and I think it was Sean
Merriman who said he couldn't when he was playing high
school football, did he did? There was times when they
just they didn't have any food. So what is wrong
with the high school coach buying a sixteen year old

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lunch line in the fields with your money helping them out.
There's a list of things, and we'll go over and
we got two hours to do it. It's absurd, man. The
hypocrisy of this crap is ridiculous in college and high school.

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
The rest of it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
We got one guy who wins the state champion. If
he saw his enthus and walks off the field of
the NFL, goes and wins the state championship and kicks
ass for his school. And he's taken out of his
own money, not expecting any reimbursement, and taking care of
these kids giving him a chance, not going out and
recruiting a guy and saying here's here's twenty five thousand
dollars come to my school. But and I know pe
always say, well, not everybody can do it. Well, you

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know what it's it's not exactly like he's trying to.
And if somebody said, well, I want to go there
because he's paying to have the field lined, or if
you don't have any food, you can get a sandwich
from him, or you get an uber ride from him
because you don't have a car to get to practice.
Now that to me, we need more of Teddy Bridgewaters
that are willing to do it, step outside themselves and

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realize these kids in the future, most of them are
never going to play it down in college football, and
most of them wouldn't be able to play. Not I
shouldn't say most, Some wouldn't be able to play. We've
all had that guy or two on our school team.
They wouldn't be able to play if one he didn't
ever ride, because a lot of people in some coaches,
you'll see you go pick him up if he didn't
have a ride, or if he didn't if he couldn't eat.
It was like, well, I can't get there, but both

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of my parents are working, or a single parent home,
or or both of them work at a double shift.
I can't get to practice after school, or I can't
even make it to school. So what is what is
wrong with what Teddy Bridge wants to do at a time?
How think about the hypocrisy? Yet you can waltz into
that school right now and offer a kid a million

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bucks to do advertising for you, and that's okay, that's okay,
But you're not allowed to help get out and paid
to have the field light. How are they are they
out of their friggin mind? Out of their mind? We
got a society. This is how it is in society
and sports. We've got every everything's backwards. Now we're going
in the wrong direction. I can't remember a time with

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as a country, honest to God, And I'm telling you
right now that we were this screwed up when it
came to everything. Every time, it's something. It's race, it's gender,
it's it's it's it's people don't like it. It's politics,
it's this, it's beating somebody up in the street. It's
a coach doing right by helping, trying to make things
better for a kid. And you're gonna switch, You're gonna
suspend him and then turn around and oh, yeah, but

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we can offer the kid clothing and a watch and
money to come play for us in college sports. It's
and it's okay. You do have high school nil and
place it in Florida. You do know this, and it's
gonna be everywhere. Kids are hiring agents and now Teddy
Bridgewater trying to make it easy for a kid to
get an Uber. Right, what about if a kid's of
age drinking now, you shouldn't be at twenty one. I
don't know what. I think. It's twenty one everywhere, but

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think about that. Or somebody makes a bad decision and
drinks when they're not supposed to. A seventeen or eighteen
calls coach Bridgewater. Coach, I don't have any money, Coach,
I got you. I'll put it on Uber. The guy
gets home safe and goes to bed, that night, wakes
up the next one apologize the coach. Coach takes it
and keeps it in house and says, be smarter. But
the kid got home safe. Now you tell me, or

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he gets to go to practice, Now you tell me
what's wrong with that? We got we got it all wrong, man,
I'm just telling you we do. And it's so it's
so maddening. It's almost depressing that when you wake up
every day, if you open it up, say, oh look
what ted?

Speaker 4 (01:24:13):
What suspended?

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
Yeah, society and the way we do things, we got
a bass ackwards, brother, we're not doing it right. And
if this is the case, why would you coach, If
you can't even make a difference in a kid's life,
why would you? I'm telling you now, Dan, I've been
being serious about this, is that this stuff like this
has made me get to the point where I want
to cut back on the stuff I do. And I

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didn't want to do that to the kid because I
love working with him. But it's to the point now
and the kid suffers because adults in the room don't
know how to make a decision. They just assuon should
take a punch to the face to suspend Teddy Bridgewater.
I'm not talking about the kid. I'm talking about the
decision makers. It's an embarrassment. And Teddy Bridgewater, Oh, so
the next day if the kid drove home without an
uber and killed somebody or killed himself, Yeah, Teddy offered

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to pay, but he couldn't because he was suspended. And
you know what, if you're Teddy Bridgewater, when you come
out of suspension, you do the same damn thing. Dude.
You keep making a different in those kids, difference in
those kids' lives. And if they keep suspending you, well
just raise the program. Right, You're making a difference in
kids' lives. And that's why school teachers leave, and that's
why coaches leave.

Speaker 4 (01:25:16):
That's a big reason why it's ridiculous.

Speaker 7 (01:25:19):
No argument here.

Speaker 6 (01:25:19):
Will continue the conversation about this to John on the
northwest side.

Speaker 7 (01:25:23):
He wants to weigh in on it.

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Speaker 6 (01:26:15):
Cal Rawley wins the home run Derby last night. But Sean,
something you brought up here before we get to John
on the phone lines. That was going to be a
point that I was going to bring up is we
should be celebrating when guys like Teddy Bridgewater decide to
do what he's done, where he gets to a program
and realizes, oh, we don't have the money to be

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able to paint the fields. Well, guess what I'll pay
the money to do that. Hey, you're telling me that
you don't have money at your house to.

Speaker 7 (01:26:42):
Be able to eat.

Speaker 6 (01:26:42):
Here, here's some money. Go get yourself some groceries, be
able to help yourself out. That it is the bureaucracy
in some cases with some of these governing bodies of
high school sports that.

Speaker 7 (01:26:55):
Get in the way. And even in education too.

Speaker 6 (01:26:57):
I mean you talked about a teachers that leave. I've
got family members that told me I got a teaching
because in so many words, the bureaucracy is what I
just got tired of.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
You can't teach the kids. Yeah, if you're teaching the
right thing, you can't teach instead of shoving stuff down,
or you can't teach and I and we're losing good ones,
and then we wonder why we're not getting educated and
our kids come out behind. Okay, there's a big reason
because the best ones are saying, well, I don't make
that much money and I don't get a chance. And
the ones that stick through it, God bless them, man,
God bless them. Now the argument against Teddy Bridgewater is

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going to be this, well, Teddy's got a lot of money.
He can do stuff that other teams and coaches can't
do for their players. That's what you and I haven't
read the thread. I've seen it, but I haven't read
the thread on Twitter. I'll guarant ask to you you're
going to get that part of the bureaucracy. Bureaucracy saying well,
you know what to Teddy can line in the field
with his own money, but we can't afford to do that.
Teddy can send an uber driver, we can't afford to

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do that. But the message in this is the isn't
the whole story. If you take every high school kid
in Florida or across the country, you know how many
of them are going to get a chance to start
on a college football team and then go on and
play for money in college. Now we're playing for money
in the pros. Not very many. And really, when you
think about the letter, I know, a letter of the law,
but sometimes rules are made to be broken, not laws,

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but rules. And this rule is if you can help. Hell,
if every school could find an alum, like if my
high school called me, which you know when they want
a new weight room, and it called me and said, hey, Sean,
we're going to implement our own our own not nil,
but our own collective in high school. We're going to
talk to alum to come out. And they do that anyway.

(01:28:31):
I mean those you know, people go raise money. But
what happens when some when a donor to a high
school like Fertida's at at at the high school, the
Fertida the stadium, isn't it Fertita Stadium at the what's
the great high school there? You know which want I'm
talking about. It's a good, great football and basketball program.
It's a private school in Las Vegas, Fertisa, Yeah, Bishop Gorman. Okay,

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so you get alumni. But that's okay. That's what's weird.
They're an alumni. They're enhancing the school. They got the
gym painted, they put a new floor down, they put
turf at the stadium. That's okay for an alumni to
give that, but the head coach can't. It's not like
you went up and said, here's hand and cash, here's
one thousand dollars, go buy yourself a put a down
payment on a used vehicle. Teddy's just eat, get to practice,

(01:29:15):
get home safely. He's a good dude and he's trying
to make a difference. We need more of it. So
that's the argument you're gonna get from the other side. Says, well,
he can do stuff others can't. Well, good on him.
But I'm telling you another thing, which we're headed to,
I'll bet you, is why wouldn't you if we're gonna
allow these rules to happen and high school kids can
get paid, why wouldn't you form collectives at high schools?

(01:29:37):
Why why wouldn't you and those that can't better get
on board. Everything's business now it appears. So if you're
gonna do that, why can't Saint Thomas Aquanas or Bishop
Gorman or well some schools have more money. Well, oh
well you better find your alumni that got a good
gig because if I want to go there, But they
can call me at my high school and I can
have new turf put in if they called. Yet the

(01:29:59):
head coach the high school can't if he wants to
go into his I just to me, we've got it backwards.

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
There's got to be ways.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
I don't regulate, not hand to hand cash, but we're
doing it all the time now. But when it comes
to enhancing the kid, isn't that what this is about?
Giving them a chance? Giving them a chance. I don't
think Teddy's offering some guy a Ferrari. Okay, hell, he's
smarter than that. But he does understand and people that
have been through that. Maybe Teddy Bridgewater in his past
understands what it's like, or has somebody in his family

(01:30:28):
or somebody that he knows that knows what it's like
to struggle. And when you get to know your players,
like good coaches, do you learn stuff about him that
nobody knows and they feel like can go to you.
I've been to coaches times before I've been to a
parent because you trusted them so much, you say, I
need their insight. And when you lose that connection, which

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we've lost a lot of that. We've lost a ton
of that connection of when you can't talk to a
player building relationships. Is why I went and played for
coach John Robinson because I felt so comfortable. I felt like,
I'm leaving my fan family to go play at see
two hours away, but you're gonna be a dad away
from home. And I was so comfort I could tell
him anything and I felt good about it. And I
think that we need more of that. We have created

(01:31:09):
chasms between these between coach and player.

Speaker 4 (01:31:12):
Well, we can't. We might get in trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
Oh okay, So the guy doesn't have a shirt to
wear to a banquet, So I'm gonna go buy him
a shirt so the guy can go accept his MVP award.

Speaker 4 (01:31:21):
Otherwise he'd have to wear a T shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
Okay, So to go teach the kid how to tie
a tie and go buy him a twenty five dollars
tie so he can go accept as award for being
the MVP of the league. I don't know what's the
focus now, Is that I'm making sure the kid has
a chance or is it making sure on we're doing
it this way and the bureaucracy takes over, as it
does everywhere, and we just let kids fall by the wayside,
and that they didn't get to reach their fullest potential

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because we were worried about a coach paying for the
field to be painted.

Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
Yeah, no, man, I it is. We got it wrong.
We just do.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
And I'm telling you right now, start collectives in high
school because there's no way they can turn you down
the way it is now that the doors open, Start
collectors in your own high school and get ten of
the best alumni. And watch what happens to the schools
and the upgrades and safety and fences and you know
around the field or outfield fences so you can have
what I played. We'd have fence at our field. Nobody

(01:32:14):
we just didn't baseball right field. We did, but nowhere else.
Upgrade the track, upgrade the classroom, upgrade the upgrade the gym.
Start start putting a collective on there to upgrade the
people around you. And if somebody needs a ride home
from drunk driving because they shouldn't have been drinking at
a high school party. Then I'll damn well tell you
they should be able to get an uber from their
head coach or find somebody dead in the back alley. Yeah,

(01:32:34):
I just don't I don't get it, and Teddy does
get it. And I'll tell you what in losing during
this what it's done though, And I'm sure Teddy knows this.
It's opened up a can of worms that people are
going to say because look at a lot of the field.
People are on Teddy's side with this. It's supposed to
be about the kids. It's not supposed to be about well,
unfair advantage because that guy got an uber ride and

(01:32:58):
and yeah, I just don't get it, and we've got
it wrong, man, Just Teddy's got it right. Unfortunately the
bureaucracy's got it all wrong. But you know what to
open your phone, turn on your news, you'll see it. It
runs rampant all the way. So what course they're going
to be like this. Yeah, it's nuts. Man. I hope
Teddy Bridgewater continues to do it, and I hope more
do it because strengthen numbers. All of a sudden, a

(01:33:20):
bunch of people start to do it, they could raise
it and start to afford it and start to get
the alumni from the high school. Hell, I'd get ten
guys at my high school to go upgrade whatever they needed.
I would and put the collective where we start getting
it every year. Used to start to fund it. Now
the kids get to go play and get to enjoy it.
And just like college athletes did get to have food
now and refrigerator in their locker room, which we didn't

(01:33:41):
get to have because that was illegally. You had training
table and nothing else. At nine o'clock at night, they
can go into their locker room and grab a sandwich
and the refrigerator. And you should be able to do
that because some don't have the money to buy extra
food and not everybody's getting that il money in college.
So in high school, why wouldn't you be able to
grab a peanut butter sandwich. If a collect if we're
an alumni, decided to put a refrigerator in your locker

(01:34:02):
room and stack it with with tuna and tuna sanuches
and health food bars and peanut butter and jelly sunches
and egg salad sunches or.

Speaker 4 (01:34:11):
Blown whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
Why why can't we do that?

Speaker 7 (01:34:13):
Why?

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
Why can't we make it easier on the kid? Now,
the kids take advantage of stuff, but when it comes
to getting somewhere safe and doing it the right way,
Teddy Bridgewater's right on time, and we should be flooding
all this national meetia. He should be a guest everywhere
today talking about it. So by opening this can of worms,
even though he suspended, it's going to end up being
an advantage. Why because more people are going to be

(01:34:34):
on board with what Teddy did. And I love the
fact that they turned themselves in, But think about it,
he didn't have to. They could have oki doped it.
Then maybe it goes funneled it through a parent and
done it the illegal way. The guy's been transparent. Teddy
Bridgewater deserves better, and so do high school kids.

Speaker 7 (01:34:50):
No question about it.

Speaker 6 (01:34:51):
And we can continue to talk about it too, Biscuit
John C. Guys right there, you want to weigh in
on this seon one three two one two five seven
ninety against someone three two one two five seven ninety
as we'll continue to roll along here on the Sean
Salisbury Show on a Tuesday Sports Talk seven ninety. But Sean,
I mean I got a question for you. I got
a question for everybody in the audience. What's for lunch today?

(01:35:14):
I mean, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
Well? I know where they should be going Jbar and
Barbecue twenty two to one Leland. The foods outstanding. Matter
of fact, don't wait, I'd go out there and stand
outside the door till it opened.

Speaker 6 (01:35:25):
The food's that good, you damn right it is. It's
the best brisket you will ever have. You bring up
the jalapeno cheddar sausage, brother, I mean, it is unreal
where you get that with the brisket. The meat's so
good you don't even need the sauce to go along
with it. The sauce is really good though.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
Too, if you like that. The sauce is off the charts.
But the good stuff is when you don't need sauce,
you know you got it done right. And I'm gonna
tall another thing. A lot of times restaurants or certain
facilities or venues have to have something going on around it. Well, okay,
we're at a convention, let's just go over there. Well,
and that's a good thing, But this is the restaurant
with the customer service that in a parking that allows

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you to want to go there without an event, make
that the event. Indoor outdoor, outdoor, TV music pumping, great
morning place to go, great afternoon place, the menus off
the charts, and they do it right. I love jbar
and Barbecue and I've yet to find a better place
in this city when it comes to barbecue.

Speaker 6 (01:36:19):
Yeah, and you mentioned it all the time too. The
sides can sustain themselves. I mean that's how good this
place is. You get the potato salad, he gets all
of the other sides that come along with it. And
then we hadn't even talked about the bar that they
have there in the beer garden outside. So you got
an Astros game coming up on a Saturday, You're looking
for a spot to be able to get some good eats,
some good drinks and then walk over to the ballpark.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
Jbar and Barbecue no better, no better, and they treat
you the way you're supposed to be treated. What a
novel concept. Good food, good location, and outstanding victuals. I
love it and I love them for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:36:54):
Go see Hoffee Hurrash and the crew over there at
Jbarn Barbecue.

Speaker 7 (01:36:58):
Sean mentioned it.

Speaker 6 (01:36:58):
I'll mention it again one Leland Street right there in Ito.
It is great for lunch, it's great for dinner, It's
great for pretty much any time of the day. It's
jbar and barbecue.

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
I'm a dollar fan.

Speaker 7 (01:37:12):
Back to the Seawan Salisbury Show, John, Good morning.

Speaker 14 (01:37:17):
Hey man, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
Hey man?

Speaker 14 (01:37:19):
I was about to go take a shower, but that
conversation now by Teddy Bridgewater that kind of bugged me
a little bit too. You know, I heard ex Dallas
cowboy quarterback seem to have a problem with that. If
Teddy Bridgewater did not do anything illegal, you tell me
what is wrong with showing a little love and trying.

Speaker 4 (01:37:38):
To help people.

Speaker 14 (01:37:39):
We see it every day.

Speaker 4 (01:37:40):
We see it with tragedies.

Speaker 14 (01:37:42):
People come together that don't even know each other and
they fix plates of food, They donate stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:37:48):
And give it to people that needed.

Speaker 14 (01:37:50):
Listen. When I was a kid in the sixties, man,
and even today, I have witness and seen teachers go
to the school supply and buy folders that different things
for under for kids that parents could not afford it.
This isn't this the kind of world we want? Man's
where people help each other. I'll tell you what bugs

(01:38:11):
me more than anything. When I see a guy that
has millions and millions of dollars and you never hear
him donating anything, and he never do he'sed to busy
trying to figure out how he can make his next million.
I mean, I, like I said, if Peddy Bridgewater didn't
do anything illegal, he.

Speaker 4 (01:38:28):
Made a lot of money.

Speaker 14 (01:38:29):
Maybe he just want to help a child's life, you know,
make it a little bit better for the child.

Speaker 4 (01:38:36):
What is wrong with that man?

Speaker 14 (01:38:37):
We already get on whoever suspended Candy Bridgewater for that.

Speaker 4 (01:38:41):
They need to feel some heat from the fans.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
Y'all have a good day.

Speaker 4 (01:38:47):
That's what I said.

Speaker 1 (01:38:47):
I'm going to tell you this, and I'm sure people
don't want to hear this, but the mode that it
drives me nuts that I would be suspended all the
time then, because I would if somebody up to me,
you know, Shaan, you're not allowed to give a guy
a ride?

Speaker 4 (01:39:02):
Yeah, well then you're gonna have to suspend me.

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
I would. That's probably why I couldn't do it. I
could be a high school head football coach because I'd
not suspend it all the time, because I'd break rules
and I mean I'd make them show up and we'd
be there and not any I'm talking about for the
Teddy Bridgewater stuff. If hey, we need to feel that
if I could afford it and you can do it,
you know, within reason. Oh a kid needs a ride home, Sean,
then I'm I'm I'm okay getting them an.

Speaker 4 (01:39:26):
Uber or lyft.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
I am. I would they'd have to. I wouldn't be
very good at it about Oh yeah, hiding it. I
just wouldn't because oh, Sean, you bought that kid lunch today.
I sure did. Matter of fact, I bought all of
them lunch today. Yet if you invite your team over
to a pregame meal, that's okay.

Speaker 4 (01:39:44):
Hey, you get my point.

Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
Oh so I can't provide this for him, or I
can't give him a ride on Uber, but I can
I can invite him over for pregame meal at the
at somebody's house. It just it's beyond me, and I've
said it. We got this all wrong. We're going to
the Teddy Bridgewater at least the bureaucracy part of it
is going in the wrong way. We should encourage people

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to make a difference because in truth, these kids are
going to remember Teddy Bridgewater. Yeah, good coach, yeah, he
made a difference. But they're not going to talk when
they go on ten twenty years. So now when they're
talking to their kids, you know what they're not going
to say. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:40:19):
I can remember, man, when I threw.

Speaker 1 (01:40:20):
That bang post and Coach Bridgewater over there thought maybe
in football talk, well when they come up with life talk,
and I think about my high school coaches, I'm not
thinking about oh man, I can remember coach Moyner or
coach Karlovsky saying, yeah, Sean, what a great curl throw.

Speaker 3 (01:40:35):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
You know what I remember is when my coach said, oh, no, no, no,
you're a baseball player. Or when my high school athletic
director and my coach in high school said, no, give
it a try to play. I wasn't going to play football.
He and my father said just give it a try.
I would have never done it if I didn't have
that insight and trusted what he was telling me. I
didn't want to play. So just little things. And you

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know what, no kids should have to go home hungry
in high school, and no kids should wonder when he
goes home.

Speaker 4 (01:41:02):
Man, I don't know how I'm getting home.

Speaker 6 (01:41:05):
To me.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
It's ridiculous. So I'd be with Teddy. You'd be suspending
me all the time, because if a kid needs a
sanunch and hasn't eaten or needs a ride, some one
of us on the coaching staff is going to pick
him up or get him an uber simple And if
our field's trashy and it needs an upgrade and we
can afford it, and I can put money together. If
you're Teddy and you can afford it, I'm painting the
field and then I'll just have to deal with it.

(01:41:26):
I just don't understand where the line is. And this
is a this is a major mistake in my opinion.
They did it, but in losing with the suspension, it'll
be a big win because you can hear our callers
and Biscuit and the rest of them. We're going to
talk about this and John, we're all for making a
difference in a kid's life, because twenty years from now,
the kid will remember the sandwich that he got bought
or the uber ride that he got to keep him safe.

(01:41:47):
They're not going to remember the interception of the touchdown
pass day through as a freshman in high school or
a sophomore on the varsity. Those will come when you're
talking football life lessons and Teddy Bridgewater's given these kids
a life lesson in compassion and being unselfish and trying
to make a difference.

Speaker 4 (01:42:02):
I love him.

Speaker 6 (01:42:02):
It's also it's purpose too, Sean. I mean it's it's
you know, he's teaching them about how to go about
their business on the field, and you clearly probably have
to know that he's talking to him about, hey, you
got to take care of your business in the classroom too,
and showing them another way that he cares enough about
them to be able to see that they're going to
be successful.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
Yes, and that message also he's teaching that. Listen, sometimes
it's worth getting your hands slapped for the message of
you assist others and if you're gonna go and somebody's
gonna sit you down for a week or two because
you decided that you were going to help somebody out,
then the lifelong lesson for them and they will pay
it forward at some point.

Speaker 4 (01:42:41):
I don't know if all of them will.

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
Some kid down the road is going to do the
same thing, or another kid or another kid, and a
lesson in compassion and on being unselfish. We're trying to
teach that yet now we're taking a dright ad. So
now the next time, if Teddy, all of a sudden
they say no, you can't get a kid an uber ride,
what's gonna happen if tragedy hits because a kid didn't
get an uber ride, good way, he drove with somebodies

(01:43:03):
that they made a mistake and didn't get a new berriter,
couldn't get the practice. So the kid didn't play and
now can't go to college because he well he's sent
at home instead of being class. Whatever the reasons he
did all this, it wasn't for Teddy Bridgewater to get
an advantage over some team that he was playing. It
was for Teddy Bridgewater and his kids, and especially for
the kids to have an opportunity to do something that

(01:43:23):
maybe they.

Speaker 4 (01:43:24):
Wouldn't get a chance to do. I just to me,
it makes no sense.

Speaker 6 (01:43:28):
Well, I mean, I guess if nothing else. The person
can answer, well, we followed the rules.

Speaker 1 (01:43:33):
Yeah, well guess what. The rules are made to be broken,
especially when they're broken the right way. Loud message by
Teddy Bridgewater, and it's nice and a crappy ass message
by the school system there. And the truth of the
matter is, if I'm Teddy, you suspend you can suspend
me all you want. My team will be ready to play.
But more importantly, the difference that's made will be far
more than if I didn't take the suspension. It's a

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message and compassion and Teddy Bridgewater's at the top of
the list for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:43:59):
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Speaker 7 (01:44:21):
Biscuit was the weak.

Speaker 15 (01:44:22):
Good morning, Biscuit, Hey, top of the morning. My brothers, Hey,
Dan and Shine. I'm gilty his charge man, Man. That's
what you call meeting the need.

Speaker 10 (01:44:35):
Shot. When there's a need, you meet it. You know
what I mean? You know, I mean cleat shoes, I
mean shying of rented touts for proms. Uh, you know
what you know I mean? I wish shout, I wish
uber and Lyft were around. It would save me a
whole lot of time and gas.

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
Yep, I could have.

Speaker 10 (01:44:56):
I could have just sent somebody home on the uber.
I mean, a lot of these kids, man, just don't
come from the background of people, you know, would want
a kid to come from.

Speaker 14 (01:45:06):
Man.

Speaker 10 (01:45:07):
A lot of them with single parent homes. Man, that
at least I dealt with. And uh, you know, it's
a lot of issues. So you just try to be
somebody to help, man, because you know, they need the structure,
they need the Uh, they need you more than we
need them, you know what I mean, most of them.
That's fact what what inspired me, Sean. I was volunteered

(01:45:28):
at my church then, and uh, coaching the basketball team
and some of the kids is in the South Park area,
and the kid and I'm not even from that area,
you know, I had just recently had moved to Houston.
I wasn't even familiar with the area really, and one
of the kids end up overdosing writing and I made

(01:45:49):
a commitment to myself after that, I'm gonna do whatever
I can to help these kids at the very least
get through high school, you know, and if I gotta,
you know, come out of my pocket. Or or talk
to somebody or get somebody a ride, just to keep
them out of trouble or keep them safe or make

(01:46:10):
sure they get home safe. I mean, that's I would
think that's what you want to do and shine. It's
so crazy. My son when he was in high school, right,
I went to the booster and I say, hey, man,
I noticed it after the game. You know, I do
know you get the pregame met but after the game,
we you know, can't we you know, get them some
pizza or somebody that or some wings or something. They're like,

(01:46:30):
oh no, we can't do that. That's against say you
I rule. I was like, what what you mean? And
they're like, well, you gotta. They gotta pay for it.
So I had we had to shine. We had to
go through the Shenanigan ue. Yeah, man, give me a
it's two dollars and they act like they get in that.
None of them gave me the money, but we had
to act like they gave me the money so we
can get them just pizza and wings at the football game.

Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
Yeah. See, it's just because it's yeah a bisky. You
get it and you're doing it right. And I'll do
it a thousand times over and deal with it, deal
with it, and then you know what that does, biscuit.
It forces you to want to have to cheat. I
hate to say that, it forces you to have to
do what you did. Hey, pretend like you're handing me
two bucks, and your family will validated, and we'll go
get pizza and wings and get you some soda so

(01:47:13):
you can have something to drink and eat after the game,
to let you know we appreciate you, so you're not
going home hungry.

Speaker 4 (01:47:17):
And then we'll just we'll play like that.

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
So now it forces you to keep it secret, as
opposed to these kids played you rounded up some money.
The coach had an extra hundred bucks in his pocket.
He wanted to treat his team to food, not just
the celebration of a win.

Speaker 4 (01:47:30):
I'm talking about after a loss. You want these kids
to eat.

Speaker 1 (01:47:33):
I just it's just we want compassion and we want
people to give and be given. Be trucks, not trailers
where you're always the truck where you're pulling people along.
Let's go, But now we want everybody to bog down,
so everybody's got to pull somebody else. And it's just
the burden. This should not be a burden. A peanut
butter and jelly sounch is no advantage. And every school's
got a family that can help at least one right,

(01:47:55):
Every school's got at least one family can say, yeah,
I got it this week pieces on me.

Speaker 4 (01:48:00):
It's not that hard.

Speaker 1 (01:48:02):
And for some of those kids, though it is hard,
they don't have twenty bucks and I we're doing it wrong.
Grip biscuit, you did it right, Teddy Bridgewater's doing it right,
and it's worth breaking the rule for to make sure
the kid's safe.

Speaker 4 (01:48:15):
It's just.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
You're right.

Speaker 10 (01:48:18):
You know how many my wife to tell you right now, Shot,
you know how many times I've been to a bar
or a restaurant or something and the bartend like this
was on me, coach. You know, I don't recognize them shying.
They look different, they got beers, they dreads or whatever.
But they remember that. You know, I remember when you
bought me some popcorn and the hamburg at the Rockets

(01:48:39):
game or whatever, and the kids, you know, nice to
always tell them, Syning, you're right. You don't got to
get me, no parade, no plaquea nut. Just pay it forward.
When you get in that position, do the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
Dan that's exactly right. I don't want your money back,
you don't need you owe me a sound. Just when
you have an opportunity to help somebody and possibly change
somebody's path, do it with you, Biscuit. Great point.

Speaker 6 (01:49:02):
I appreciated, Biscuit. Yeah, I mean, you know, Sean. Another
motivation for name, image and likeness was COVID because remember
when a lot of these guys were away from the program.
Similar situation, Coach, I don't have money to eat. Well,
I can't give you money, like I mean, you had
guys who their their entire you know, you know, the

(01:49:22):
meal plan and everything else was taken from them because
they're not at school anymore. They don't have the trainer's
table or any of those things. And I mean that
was another thing that caused motivation for this. Jim Harbaugh,
while you left Michigan, Oh, you guys want to punish
me because I bought a recruit a burger, Like, seriously,
that's what you want to do.

Speaker 7 (01:49:39):
Miami years ago, what was it they.

Speaker 6 (01:49:40):
Got busted for setting out cream cheese and they were like, no,
that's an impermissible benefit.

Speaker 7 (01:49:46):
It's like, what are we doing here at a certain time?

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
Exact impermissible benefit. Did you we gave you some cream
cheese to put on a bagel? That we gave you
some cream cheese to put on a bay inexperienced? Oh yeah, man,
it's an impermissible benefit. Well what happened? Well, I went
and picked the kid up so he could be on
the class on time. Oh, after the game, I bought

(01:50:09):
him a sandwich because he hadn't eat and since last night. Yeah,
I just And maybe those are some of the extremes,
but I don't think lining your field is an advantage.
Everybody should have a line field or be able to
pay for it.

Speaker 8 (01:50:24):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:50:24):
And if the coach, and here's the thing, he was
blessed with a talent, a great career, and immediately he's
giving back trying to change a kid's That the path
for a kid. A lot of those paths I talk
about unpaved all the time run paved. Unfortunately, some stay
unpaved and get to a part where they can't navigate
it because they just don't have the resource to do it.
But man, I can bring you back onto this paper.

(01:50:45):
The unpaved road is awesome for people. It's awesome just
as long as they know how to navigate their way back,
and sometimes they don't have the resources to do it.
And if a peanut butter and jelly sandwich or cream
cheese in the locker room so they can put it
on a bagel, it makes a difference. And I went
and got Einstein bagels for my kids in the morning,
and that's an impermissible benefit because they didn't get breakfast. Well,

(01:51:06):
then shame on the one. The suspension I'm gonna take
because I'm willing to take it. That's why I said,
don't hire me, because if a kid needs a ride
home in a sandwich, I'm giving it to him, period.
Simple into conversation Teddy Bridgewater, it's about And I don't
think Teddy did this to make it about him. Teddy
did it to make it about somebody else. He wouldn't.
I don't think he's asking for reimbursement from anybody. He
just trying to help. And he also can coach pretty

(01:51:28):
damn good because they won last year and his first
years the coach. So guy's doing right and people will
rally around it and they'll never forget it.

Speaker 6 (01:51:36):
Yeah, I don't think there was anybody out there saying, yeah,
you know, I was gonna go to Florida State. But
you know, Miami really put out that bomb cream cheese.
So I think that's the reason that I ended up
going there. Kenny and Magnolia really quick wants to wait
in here, Kenny, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:51:51):
Hey, biscuits? Dead on, guys.

Speaker 16 (01:51:53):
I mean, I had the opportunity to coach little league
football and then take it over because nobody wanted it. It
was just a drunk fest, and I took kids that
nobody else wanted, loved them. I was their dad on
the football field. Then I incorporated it with all my coaches.
But here's the problem. When you take kids that nobody
else wants and you start winning, then people start complaining.

(01:52:16):
Teddy took a team that, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't
very good and won the state.

Speaker 4 (01:52:20):
In his first year in his first year.

Speaker 1 (01:52:23):
Yea, his first year.

Speaker 16 (01:52:24):
So does this a lot of bs from the coaches
in his conference or around there saying, hey, look what
this guy is doing. He's got the advantage. What's a
ride home but to be advantage. But you know, and
we had coaches in the eighties that said, if you
want to play football for my team, you better use
this juice, but nothing happens to them.

Speaker 8 (01:52:41):
But hey, that's my comment. I love you guys, keep
up the good work.

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
Great.

Speaker 7 (01:52:46):
I appreciate Kenny.

Speaker 6 (01:52:48):
Yeah, I mean, I just I don't think you ever
go wrong helping out people, even if there are parameters that's,
you know, it keep you from doing it. And Sean,
I'm gonna go and tell you how this is going
to play out, and I bet it plays out as
early as today. Teddy bridgewater'specise he isn't.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
They're going to drop the suspension because they don't like
the chaos that it's created. I can guaran you your
If it's not today, it's going to happen soon. And
then they're going to start the process of of how
how can we help these kids like Teddy is, they're
going to flip the switch if they're smart and utilize
this saying you know what, by him doing this, it's
opened up a can of worms. Now now we get it,
and it's okay to admit that you screwed up and

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you made a mistake.

Speaker 4 (01:53:28):
Now how do we push this forward?

Speaker 1 (01:53:30):
And now just open it so every coach, if he
has the resources not handnagged, that he can actually and
if you have to save the receipt for the sandwich
and turn it into the school board. Turn it in.
That's fine, big deal. Hey, guess what we're playing Friday night.
We actually have lines on our field who paid for that?
The head coach. What a novel concept. He cares that
much about the program and he has the resources to

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do it. Isn't that why you're in a living to
be able to take care of your family and hopefully
pay it forward and take care of others along the way.
Can't take it with you, And if it means buying
kitt a sandwich and getting suspended, we'll have at it.
But the truth of the matter is they are going
to get so much backlash for this. Watch the rule
change in a heartbeat, it'll happen.

Speaker 6 (01:54:12):
Yeah, yeah, And hopefully he's got other coaches that are
backing them up on it. Someone three two and two
five seven ninety the number to get in, don't forget
hear In about fifteen minutes, Craig Way, the voice of
the Texas Longhorns, going to join us as it's Texas
Day here at SEC Media Days, and also too, we
can continue the astros conversation if you want still owe

(01:54:32):
you a chance to hear from Jeremy Panya and Hunter
Brown yesterday at MLB Media Day. All of that much
more here as we continue, Me and Atlanta, Sean and
Tripoli back in Houston at Shawn Salisbury Show Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:54:46):
This Sean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 8 (01:54:51):
Good morning, Nick, Hey, good morning.

Speaker 17 (01:54:54):
This is one of those like common sense infuriating issues
that I think people.

Speaker 7 (01:55:00):
Yeah, I have thoughts on you that this is the
kind of crap.

Speaker 17 (01:55:03):
Why the you know, nil is what it is because
the Incuba was holding on too hard and they tried
to grip so tightly everything fill.

Speaker 1 (01:55:10):
Out of their hand. But I think if this goes
for more than like two or.

Speaker 17 (01:55:14):
Three days, and like Trump or the governor of Florida
get get a wind of this, I think they're gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:55:19):
Get involved and say, hey, guys, use common sense. Fix it.
Not to get political. But no, no, I understand it.
It's not polutal, but sometimes some some people need to
step in. And if it's not them, somebody, how about
the person who runs the damn the damn League. You're
one hundred percent correct, good call by you. I I
just somebody's got to because I'm gonna tell you what.

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It ain't gonna the the fallout isn't gonna end well
for the uh those who gave the suspension.

Speaker 4 (01:55:47):
It's just not.

Speaker 1 (01:55:48):
So I'm all in on it. And if I'm Teddy,
you keep giving those kids lyft rights to make sure
they can get to school, get to practice, and keep
themselves safe at night because kids do stupid things at night. Okay,
so to adults, kids stupid things at night. So if
Teddy Bridgewater can prevent dumb things from happening unfortunately, or
bad decisions at times that happen, he's trying to teach
these kids to make good decisions and pay it forward.

(01:56:11):
So for me, it is it's it's it's I don't
see this at this time next year or at this
time next week being that big of an issue. I
just don't Sean.

Speaker 7 (01:56:22):
We're trying to make America great again.

Speaker 6 (01:56:26):
If Teddy wants to buy somebody a sandwich, I say
let him do it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:31):
And he would probably say he's it's Teddy A tremendous,
tremendous Teddy was a good player. Yeah, he really was
human being.

Speaker 7 (01:56:39):
He was a great quous one of the best ones.

Speaker 6 (01:56:41):
Feel I feel like he was incredibly underrated, you know,
not not enough credit given the Teddy.

Speaker 1 (01:56:47):
If he doesn't get hurt, he may he may still
be a starter in the league, you know, I mean
Teddy and and als Teddy did. His career is keep overcoming.
So I would imagine he understands the feeling love him
and uh, I'm grateful that we get guys like him
that are willing to put their ass on a line
and take whatever punishment comes to be able to get
a kid a ride and get a kid a sandwich

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and paint a field. Yeah, what a novel concept. Good
on him.

Speaker 6 (01:57:11):
I mean, also too wanting to sign up for what
coaching is because everybody gets in the coaching I feel
like Sean, because you're like, oh, I love the game.

Speaker 7 (01:57:19):
I want to be able to teach it.

Speaker 6 (01:57:19):
I want to be able to do all that that's
a fraction of what the actual job is. And the
fact that Teddy understood that it actually like lives up
to it.

Speaker 7 (01:57:28):
He needs to be celebrated, need to be punished.

Speaker 1 (01:57:31):
There's no doubt about it. Think about coaches you were
coached by, and if you go back and talk to
them and ask them that have retired from high school.
Oh look, the competitiveness and competition, the feeling.

Speaker 4 (01:57:41):
But to a man.

Speaker 1 (01:57:44):
Or woman of women who are making coaching differences, when
I say man to a person, you know, doesn't matter
who the coach is. When they go back and talk
to them, go back and talk to your high school
coach and maybe retired.

Speaker 4 (01:57:56):
And doing other things. What was the number one?

Speaker 10 (01:57:58):
What was it?

Speaker 1 (01:57:58):
What was the greatest thing about you job? First thing
most of them are going to say, is I got
to be around these kids, man, and hopefully impact them
some way somehow. And then the second thing or third
thing is you know, and then they'll say, well, what
about Well, what's the greatest thrill you get when my
kids come back to me and say thank you twenty
years later.

Speaker 4 (01:58:16):
Fifteen years later.

Speaker 1 (01:58:17):
And then the third thing is, oh, yeah, we got
a ring and we want to state Championship's about winning.
It's about winning then and impacting a kid and the
winning because you keep your job and some you know,
you're a younger coach and as you go on the
impact and where your focus has changed. You want to win,
but in the process you also want to bring kids
along so they're successful and so when they come back
to you. Rarely have I ever gone back to a
high school coach put my arm around him and said, man,

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thanks for that win on a Friday night where we
beat Billy Bean's team at Mount Carmel. You know what
I do, go back and say thanks for the difference
you made. Because the one time I needed you to
kick me in the ass, you did, and the one
time I needed you to put your arm around me
you did. Thank you for making a difference. We don't
ever talk x's and o's unless you're around four hours
and then they say, hey, Sean man, you know, coach,

(01:59:01):
I remember that. That posts you through and they're talking
about other things. It's rarely about them, and it's always
about what did you do well. I got a chance
to make a difference with the kids, so winning. But
most coaches, to a man or a woman, will say
it was the kids, man, it was being an It's
the equivalent when a pro athlete retires and they say, well,
what do you miss the locker room camaraderie. For coaches,

(01:59:22):
it's the impact on the kids. Yeah, it just is.
That's the way it works. And locker rooms are a
unique thing. Quite frankly, locker rooms don't think like society thinks.
Locker rooms think better because we don't talk about all
this stuff. We talk about how much you care and
how about winning, and these guys are the best friends
in your life. And it's the same thing being a coach.

(01:59:42):
The impact on these coaches gravestones. It ain't going to
say beat cover two with a bender. It's going to
say made a difference in some kid's life and change lives.
And when they give their speech, that's what it's going
to be. It's not going to be about the victory
on a handoff at the four yard line when he
ran it in for a score on a two point conversion.
So I just I know it may be hyperbolic, but

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it really does make one little thing makes a huge difference.
And when we quit thinking the one little thing does
make a big difference, we got it wrong. Because I
can tell you right now, in my life, the little
things along the way, those little wins and those little
opportunities are far bigger than the big ones, and they
set a foundation that these kids need.

Speaker 6 (02:00:23):
I've been one of those guys you mentioned about, going
back twenty years later, one of the coaches a few
years ago, I said, hey, man, I know that you
really gave us a hard time, But I got to
tell you, I think I learned more about life from
you than I learned from most of my teachers.

Speaker 1 (02:00:35):
There you go and code. You always remember the coaches names.
I've said that a million times before. You always remember
their names. There's some coaches, I mean, you always remember them.
There's certain things. Hell, sometimes you don't even remember. I
don't remember what the score was when we beat I mean,
what pass we meet on third and ten against the Packers.
I can tell you this though, I know exactly what

(02:00:55):
my high school coaches and elementary school coaches names to
a person, and what they coached and what they did
and what subject they taught in school. But damn, I
can't tell you that. I can tell you the interception
I threw, but I can't remember the touchdown patched you
through the game.

Speaker 4 (02:01:09):
Let's it go.

Speaker 1 (02:01:09):
Yeah, I remember that. Oh I remember that play. But
you always remember the impact they made on you and Teddy.
Bridgewater's building a legacy for those kids, and it's important
for sure.

Speaker 6 (02:01:20):
Seven one three, two, one two five seven ninety is
coming up next. We're expected to be joined by the
voice of the Texas Longhorns here in Atlanta. Craig wa
are gonna sit down with us as we continue here
on the Shawn Salisbury Show on a Tuesday, Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 12 (02:01:37):
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Speaker 2 (02:01:53):
Listen, right, okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (02:02:03):
Sewn Salisbury to USC troups longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 5 (02:02:09):
Dan matthewscuse. This is the Seawan Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (02:02:18):
But right now, pleasure to be joined by the voice
man that you hear on your radio whenever the Longhorns
are on in Houston during the football season.

Speaker 7 (02:02:29):
He is Craig Way.

Speaker 6 (02:02:30):
And Craig appreciate the time you got myself, you got
Sean Salisbury back in studio. But I gotta ask you,
I mean, second year heading into the SEC. You were
around mid two thousands when Mac Brown had that thing going,
Vince Young everybody of the sort more hype than when
Texas was going through those seasons. Or do you feel
like that magic is back and maybe even amplified now

(02:02:53):
with being in the SEC.

Speaker 8 (02:02:54):
That's a great question and great to be on with
you and Seawan, and.

Speaker 18 (02:02:59):
I think it was different, different sets of circumstances. If
you were talking about say twenty years ago, the two
thousand and five season, there was a great deal of
excitement in hy surrounding Texas and Vincejon coming off the
Rose Bowl performance against Michigan, but USC was the unquestioned

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number one. So for Texas that trip to Columbus twenty
years ago was a watershed moment. They had to get
through that, which they did and then they were kind
of as they like to say in NASCAR, running in
clean air out in front of Penn State and the
other would be contenders to play in that Rose Bowl
in that BCS National Championship game against USC. So they

(02:03:43):
were still something to prove. This Texas program does still
have things to prove. Clearly, it did not reach the
national Championship, did not win the SEC title game, but
they did show en up on the national stage, I
think in their games and reach the semifinal round. And
then you add to that having not only start having

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the program on a role, but with all of the excitement,
the expectation and the hype and everything surrounding arch Manning.
It does have a familiar kind of feel like it
did with Mac and v Y twenty years ago.

Speaker 1 (02:04:19):
Yeah, Craig, thanks a lot for bumming my high this
morning talking about the Trojans getting beat by Vince Young
on the greatest game. One of the great performances I've
ever seen, and it was phenomenal to watch.

Speaker 4 (02:04:28):
It's good to be with you, my friend. And let
me ask you.

Speaker 1 (02:04:31):
We talk about Vince Young, and you've been around for
a lot of great expectations of coaches players coming through
the program. Is there anything like the expectations for arch Manning. No.

Speaker 18 (02:04:43):
I think that's I think it's a fair question and statement, Sean.
And I think when I will tell you and you'll
remember this, I mean going back to when Chris Sims
arrived on campus and there was all the excitement, but
then of course there was the conflict and controversy and
everything with him in Major Apple.

Speaker 8 (02:05:02):
White as as as the quarterbacks.

Speaker 18 (02:05:05):
Uh, then Vince came in and he was looked at
being as as being the savior so to speak, of
the program, and what he did was was something that
few other quarterbacks had ever been able to accomplish at Texas.
There was a great deal of hype surrounding Vents going
into five. But even from the outset, like I said,

(02:05:26):
with the team, it was like that for v Y
with Reggie Bush he was and you had Matt Liiner,
a returning Heisman winner, So there was always that kind
of yeah, v why is great? But here's usc they're
number one in they're defending national champs, and they've got
the defending Eisman Trophy winner, and they got the guy
who's probably gonna win it this year. So there was
always that kind of shadow cast over it, so to speak.

(02:05:49):
And I might add John, I think it fueled the
team clearly, and it also fueled Vince as well, especially
when you know when the Heisman balloting went as lopsided
as it did for Reggie, I think he just kind
of locked in his focus to get ready for that
for that Bowl game. Uh So it was a.

Speaker 8 (02:06:09):
Different kind of hype than what this is.

Speaker 18 (02:06:11):
This is a kind of hype for a young man
who clearly is talented, who has shown some things in
limited opportunities, but for whom much greatness has been forecast.
And then I think also not only because he carries
the family name with him. There's a calmness, there's a steadiness,

(02:06:33):
there's a sense of purpose within that family that kind
of has permeated down to Arch himself to where to
this point and that's the key point, hear sean He's
handled everything with a with a great deal of plumb
and business.

Speaker 1 (02:06:47):
Yeah, no surprise with that family, they seem to handle
everything well and well. He's seen a lot of examples
of how to handle stuff from his grandpa right on
down to his uncle's and to his pops Craig with
Sark what we know all about the brilliant offense stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:07:01):
And I've known him forever and I love him.

Speaker 1 (02:07:03):
But what's his best trait that maybe we don't know about,
that we don't see from afar.

Speaker 18 (02:07:08):
Yeah, it's a great question, and I think the answer
is his relatability to his players, to the program uh,
to the athletic department, to the athletic director, to the
fans as as we all like to call him, the bmds,
the big money donors, all that sort of thing. He

(02:07:30):
handles all of that in a way that I've not
seen since mac Brown. Mac Brown was the greatest I
ever saw at being able to marshal all of those
forces and for whatever reasons, and most of them had
to do with winning and losing. It just it wasn't
like that under Charlie Strong. It wasn't like that under

(02:07:50):
Tom Herman. There were moments, but it was never on
the consistent level of what we see from sark And
and it does evoke memories of how Mac did it.
So I think it's the relatability factor as much as
the the x's and o's and the scheming and the
planning and being the CEO and GM of the program.

Speaker 1 (02:08:11):
Overall.

Speaker 6 (02:08:12):
Again, Craig Way, the voice Texas Longhorns. You hear him
here during the football and basketball season on Sports SOX
seven to ninety join us here at SEC media Days.
And I mean along with that hype too, I mean,
you know, Texas is one of those programs coming into
the season when the preseason polls come out, they might
be number one, but then you got to go on
the road that very first game against a team that

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ended their season last year. And oh, by the way,
then the SEC starts at the Swamp going to Georgia.
I mean, just all of those challenges that are in
front of this team this year.

Speaker 18 (02:08:43):
Yeah, and you know, losing thirteen guys into the NFL
doesn't help either, obviously. But I think the mission that
Sark and his staff embarked upon when they came in
was they had to do two or three things really well.
First of all, they had to get depth in the program,

(02:09:04):
quality depth, not just numbers overall. And we became familiar
with the phrase big humans with Kyle Flood on his
staff and what they did with the offensive line and
with the defensive line as well. I would submit to
you this that in this day and age of NIL, I.

Speaker 8 (02:09:24):
Would say probably last year.

Speaker 18 (02:09:27):
More money might have been locked in through NIL into
the program for the offensive line than the defensive line. Interesting,
and obviously it showed with the offensive productivity. And these
are challenges that Mack Brown or other coaches did not
deal with twenty years ago. They had the challenge of
Ohio State twenty years ago, and now they have it again,

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except this time. I think Ohio State was number two
in the country at the time when Texas went into
Columbus and won in the Horseshoe, and it was a
great performance by Vince in that game.

Speaker 8 (02:09:58):
But you know, it's a different kind of challenge.

Speaker 18 (02:10:02):
Now you're facing a defending national champion on their field.
It is a little bit different that it'll be eleven
o'clock in the morning Central time, Jaxon's time instead of
a night time primetime game. But I do think that
it's that the challenge is similar enough. They're playing a
quality football team with a chance to stake their claim

(02:10:24):
to be in the number one spot. So your point, Dan,
they if they're not number one in the AP poll
when the season starts, and that's entirely possible, Iiowa State
could be number one. I think we're seeing the number
one versus number two matchup regardless of who's one.

Speaker 8 (02:10:36):
And who's two.

Speaker 18 (02:10:37):
But if they win that game in Columbus, there's no doubt.
I think Sean, they're going to be number one.

Speaker 1 (02:10:42):
Yeah, no doubt about that. Craig, You've been in that
chair a long time and seeing a lot of changes
on the you know, the landscape of college football, which
is you know the pro part of all this stuff
with nil and transfer portal from your vantage point just
as a pres a fan, even forget the broadcasting part.
Do you like all these changes and what do you
think needs changed back or needs to be done to

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either fix this or enhance it.

Speaker 18 (02:11:06):
Well, I have become quite fond of the term Sean guardrails.

Speaker 8 (02:11:16):
If there were a way to.

Speaker 18 (02:11:18):
Be able to do and maybe the twenty point five million,
you know, maybe the totalatality of that salary cap. But
there are questions is it a hard cap, is it
a softcap? How is this thing going to be managed?
Is it going to be like an NBA style cap
or is it going to be like an MLB type
of thing. So it's early days and there's a lot

(02:11:38):
we have to see with regard to and I know,
I know it scares a lot of people when you
see whatever an offensive lineman go for five billion dollars
in a.

Speaker 8 (02:11:47):
Package over to taxes tech.

Speaker 18 (02:11:49):
I do think it's safe to say that what Sark
and his group, his program GM and the athletic director
and everybody else. I think what they're doing is making
sure that they are spending money wisely in terms of
retention of some of the key players and not throwing
all caution to the wind and let's go out and

(02:12:10):
get a five star offense. I was sure they've got
some five stars coming in, but I think they want
to manage all of that.

Speaker 6 (02:12:16):
And and so that's that's the unknown part about it.
I think, Sean no doubt about it. I mean, you
heard Kenny Dillingham say it last week. I'm in the
recruiting business, or I'm in the retention business. I'm not
in the recruiting business.

Speaker 18 (02:12:26):
Now, Yeah, it makes sense and and and what a
fine job he's done there. Obviously we saw firsthand right
here in this town in the peach Bowl, tremendous what
he's done in Arizona State. And it's and it's about
keeping what you got and then supplementing it. Adding to that,
whereas we've always talked about recruiting being the lifeblood of

(02:12:47):
the program, and it still is, but recruiting now kind
of branches out and it takes on different form.

Speaker 1 (02:12:52):
Yeah, Craig Dan, we never used to think and coaches it, Hey,
I recruited the guy. Now he's here. Unless he's getting
beat out in his third year, he's not gonna transfer.

Speaker 4 (02:13:00):
He's going to compete.

Speaker 1 (02:13:01):
Now, it's well, you got to recruit them. Then while
they're there, you got to keep recruiting them, and then
you got to recruit them when you get another recruit
so they don't leave thinking that they got to change
the comp.

Speaker 4 (02:13:09):
I mean, it is crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:13:10):
So their job, Craig with the money in Nil, their
job got tougher. I don't think it got easier. I
think it gets tougher because you're focusing on the guys there.
You got to make sure they don't leave, and then
you get lost in the recruiting and somebody else steels
a guy that you had because you didn't get on
the recruiting paths because you're trying to, you know, massage
the guy that's already there. These coaches have a tougher
task now, I think yeah.

Speaker 18 (02:13:32):
And I think Sark cooed almost those exact words when
he was asked about it back in the spring about
is it tougher being a college football coach now than
it was earlier? And he said there are elements to
it that are more difficult, and he was referring to
the totality of the program, I think, and what you
just laid out there, Sean, in terms of being you know,
twenty years ago, we didn't have what was known now

(02:13:55):
as a general manager right college football program. We didn't
have that now. Now, if you don't have that, you
have issues with your program there, because you've got to
have somebody there who's keeping an eye on the money
coming in and the money going out in conjunction with
the business office and also with the athletic director and

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the athletic department overall.

Speaker 8 (02:14:16):
You have to do that. But it's got to be
somebody who has that counary.

Speaker 18 (02:14:20):
What what's the phrase we like to that's ascribed to
the NBA capologists.

Speaker 1 (02:14:24):
Yeah, you know, you kind of have to have.

Speaker 18 (02:14:26):
That now with your program GM in college football, and
who would have expected that even a few years ago.

Speaker 7 (02:14:32):
Weird times for sure.

Speaker 6 (02:14:33):
Again, Craig Way, the voice of the Longhorns, joined us
here on the Shawn Salisbury Show. Craig, it's always great
to see you and have a great season and looking
forward talking with you Againig, thank you so much on
the seven night Showing.

Speaker 8 (02:14:44):
My pleasure. Great to visit with you, you.

Speaker 1 (02:14:46):
Too, buddy.

Speaker 7 (02:14:46):
There you go, There you go. We'll continue here, Hey, Dan,
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (02:14:50):
The voice and when it comes to it's just oh, okay,
I'm home. It's just so his voice is just so
if if there's a play by play voice, it just
kicks in. It's like, okay, turn it over to Craig,
and let's go listen to a ballgame, right it was,
He's got that in great insights on this nil and
the Texas Longhorn season. They gotta be awfully excited.

Speaker 6 (02:15:09):
Well, I mean he's he's still around, so he can
hear me say this. All I can hear by looking
at him right now is all the hopes, all the dreams.

Speaker 7 (02:15:17):
Fourth and five. That's what I mean, memories for you?

Speaker 4 (02:15:21):
Thanks again? And what are you guys doubling down on
me today?

Speaker 2 (02:15:23):
Man?

Speaker 1 (02:15:23):
What the hell is going on here? There?

Speaker 7 (02:15:25):
You beat up on the Trojans day.

Speaker 6 (02:15:26):
I mean, hey, you know what, Look, we gotta we
gotta build, you know, break you down to build you
back up. I mean, you know we built you up
earlier of thinking about the possibilities of maybe Nick Saban
in southern California one day. Hey man, you know there
you go, there you go. Well, anyway, we'll continue it
on here on the Shawn Salisbury Show normally this time
every Tuesday and Thursday.

Speaker 7 (02:15:45):
Courtesy at Carbak Brewing. It's Chris Gordy.

Speaker 6 (02:15:48):
Well, Craig sat down with us, so Gordy will hop
on with us here for a few minutes. Next as
we continue here in Atlanta SEC Media days. It is
the Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (02:16:02):
This is this Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (02:16:05):
Are you not tame?

Speaker 5 (02:16:07):
Let's begin now alcohol?

Speaker 13 (02:16:11):
Oh yeah, cat on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (02:16:17):
Should we go ahead and let Sean know too what
we have down the pike for tomorrow? Uh?

Speaker 19 (02:16:23):
Well, you can never you can never put these out
one hundred percent because sometimes people don't show. Sometimes things
get canceled, so you can mention it, but it might
jinx it.

Speaker 1 (02:16:32):
Okay, all right, that's all. What does that have to
do with what's so? Tell me the walk of life
this person is where?

Speaker 6 (02:16:38):
Oh they they've won a national championship, a couple of
them actually recently.

Speaker 7 (02:16:43):
Yeah, and they wear a headset.

Speaker 19 (02:16:45):
It's got a bowl haircut.

Speaker 1 (02:16:47):
Yes, a bowl haircut, and that it only comes she
wears Advisor. Yeah, I know who you're talking about. Well,
I can't wait to talk to him, so, uh, hopefully
it'll happen. If not, tell him, I'm come out and
opened up a can. Okay, I like it, Yeah, I
like it.

Speaker 7 (02:17:03):
And we already know your chops earlier.

Speaker 1 (02:17:05):
Shout yeah, now real quick, real quick headset heads Oh
you mean the bitch slap. You're talking about it years ago?
I told yeah that yeah, he that kid remembers it too.
Or should I say that adult? Are we saying a
national championship with a visor as an assistant coach or
a head coach?

Speaker 2 (02:17:24):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (02:17:24):
Well, I mean I guess yeah, technically you can both,
because I mean he wore one at Bama and then
he oh, okay, so a couple of times in.

Speaker 1 (02:17:30):
Georgia there, Well, there you go, see, because the other
one I was thinking about was Lane Kiffin. You know
what I'm saying, because you know we've been with you
could have assist has at Southern cal and there with Pete.
So I just had to I figured it was Kirby.
But Lane would have been good too, because I'll go
back and remind him that when I was watching him
play when he was a high school junior and senior

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in Bloomington, Minnesota, when Monte Kiffin and I used to
go watch him that, Uh, it's a good thing he's
a play caller now.

Speaker 19 (02:17:57):
I'm just doesn't would come up to radio row like
he's just because he's such a big troll. I think
he would say something there where he would put his
foot he didn't even come up there.

Speaker 1 (02:18:07):
There you go, there you go. It's good to have
you guys with us. I'm sure you guys are having
a good time. Man, we are, we are healthy.

Speaker 19 (02:18:13):
Dan went and crushed it over at the ballpark yesterday.
I'm sitting here al radio road interview on a Vanderbilt
corner and he's over there interview and Scott freaking Boris.

Speaker 1 (02:18:20):
So there you are. Yeah, Scott Boris. Yeah, did you
hire him as your agent too?

Speaker 3 (02:18:25):
Dan?

Speaker 4 (02:18:26):
So you could break the bank. Damn, Right here you go,
he said.

Speaker 19 (02:18:29):
When he walked away, just one hundred dollars bills fall
out of his pockets.

Speaker 7 (02:18:32):
That's pretty much. And then I was right there to
try to pick him up.

Speaker 1 (02:18:34):
Well, you know, tough, don't pick him up because then
Boris will get suspended like Bridgewater.

Speaker 4 (02:18:39):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (02:18:40):
Don't do that there.

Speaker 7 (02:18:40):
Yeah, no, that's true, that's true.

Speaker 6 (02:18:43):
At least try to do it discreetly, make sure nobody
sees you as best you can, awesome, and make.

Speaker 1 (02:18:47):
Sure we enforce those rules though.

Speaker 7 (02:18:48):
We don't want kids having any any handouts.

Speaker 1 (02:18:51):
Yeah, we sure don't want to field painted. We don't
want a kid that maybe needed to ride gett an
uber and maybe get a sandwich so he doesn't go
home hungry and go to bed at night. Yeah, what
a nice thing they're doing there. Good on Teddy Man
get suspended every week if that's the case.

Speaker 7 (02:19:03):
For sure, you know, Gordy, it was.

Speaker 6 (02:19:07):
Something that I know that you talked about yesterday on
your show, Locked on sec about Nick Saban and the
chance that he could get back in. Shawn and me
talked about it a little bit earlier. But I mean
we've thrown out possibilities. One of them that Shawn throughout.
I mean, Lincoln Riley doesn't have a great season this year,
maybe even the year after at SC because Shawn's alm

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the mater. See Nick Saban on the sidelines.

Speaker 19 (02:19:33):
I think that's I think that certainly is is one
that would have to be considered. Now, he's never been
a West Coast guy, so I don't know if I
don't know if you'd go for that.

Speaker 1 (02:19:43):
But here's the we have for his boat there. We
have big spreads on the beach.

Speaker 19 (02:19:50):
Okay, I just I mean the thing is like if
it were real, it would be for a one or
two year deal, you know what I mean, Like it
would and it would be for a hell of a
lot of money, but it would be you're basically renting
him to come in for a year and do his thing.
But you know, I throughout their Oklahoma, you know, makes

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a lot of sense if they made a change from
Brett Ventibles because they just hired Jim Naggy, who's been
the you know, the head of the Senior Bowl, to
come in and be their GM basically running everything from recruiting, payroll,
you know, how do we distribute revenue share? And I
l all that stuff. Jim's handled all that stuff. So
you go back to the reason why Nick left the game,
it was because of all that stuff. So again, like

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that one would make a lot of sense to me,
just giving talent resources and everything at Oklahoma. You know what,
if Dabbo decides at the end of the year he
wants to retire, Clemson is set up. Man, walk right
in there. You can win from day one there. So
that's just those are kind of the some of the
schools we were thrown around. If you know, again it's
a pipe dream, but if it were to happen, Saban

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could walk into any schools and win, win right away.

Speaker 1 (02:20:57):
Hey, that was one of the points go ahead. I
was just gonna say, Gordy win. If Debor struggles next
two years they're not in the playoff, let's just for
the hell of it, could he possibly go back there?

Speaker 3 (02:21:07):
Oh?

Speaker 19 (02:21:07):
Absolutely, I think that would be the favorite, right like
if they go if they lose four games again this year,
it's a massive bio for Debor. But I could, I
could see that happening, because didn't Wisconsin do that with
what's his face.

Speaker 7 (02:21:21):
Harry Alvarez?

Speaker 1 (02:21:21):
Yeah, back in there, yep.

Speaker 8 (02:21:24):
Certainly see that happening.

Speaker 6 (02:21:25):
There you go, And I mean, you know one other
thing that we've talked about too, and Sean me and
you can continue the conversation, because such is life here
on Radio Row. You got Gordia actually happened to hop
off for an interview. But I mean, you know, as
I talked about earlier of one of his best friends
back in the game and one of his best friends
setting it up like an NFL franchise, and you know,

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saman had done that at Alabama too, of calling it
an organization not a program, and you know, just trying
to get these guys ready for not only the NFL,
but you know, even just life and general and I
mean these are things that he can continue now. And
for the front office structure of it, I mean, that's
probably something that he would say, all right, yeah, you

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set that up for me, and all I have to
do is really coach and maybe show up for a
home visit every once in a while.

Speaker 7 (02:22:14):
That's what I'm going to be about.

Speaker 1 (02:22:15):
Have you ever met a coach in your life that
went out on top or close to it? You know,
was competitive in the hunt every year for a national
title or a Super Bowl if it was the NFL
that got out of it. There wasn't a health issue.
Did a wife wasn't you know? I think Bill Coward,
you know, for his wife. His wife was going through
some difficult time health wise after you know, when he'd

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been Pittsburgh and he left and he had to go
through that, which is difficult. I'm pretty sure it was
Bill and his wife, if I'm not mistaken at the time,
and so you have to navigate through those things.

Speaker 4 (02:22:46):
That's a different story.

Speaker 1 (02:22:48):
But have you ever seen a guy that's successful that's
got a lot of football left in him and a
lot of energy that's used to win in and loves
being around that stuff. The program and the kids and
all that comes with it, and loves the preparation part
of it. Just up and walk away and not have
the yearning to come back. Most want to. It's rare

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that the Tony Dungees and the bill Cowers that that
you know Gruden want to come back. Most of them
do now, most of them, and then some time will pass.
Like I asked Brian Billick years ago, we were at
radio Row at Super Bowl and I was talking to Brian,
who's obviously coach of mine and a dear friend. I said,
we need you back, man. He goes, This had been
like five or six years since he left, and he

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was broadcasting on NFL network.

Speaker 4 (02:23:30):
Kill Sean.

Speaker 1 (02:23:31):
It's a young man's game now, not that he couldn't
coach it, but they want to go cheaper.

Speaker 2 (02:23:36):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:23:36):
That was before all this stuff, with all this one
hundred million dollar contracts for coach. But I want to
go cheaper, so they're gonna and it. Basically, Brian wasn't
ready at that time. Now he's got grand kids in
love and life, but you know, he was still He
still could have coached. But it's rare that a guy
in saving that walks away and doesn't at least yearn
or still. And plus he's talking about it every day.

(02:23:57):
He's talking about it on TV every day, so you're
still in the and you're like, man, I would have
done this different, or what's going on here?

Speaker 4 (02:24:03):
It's just human nature.

Speaker 1 (02:24:04):
So he walked away at a time when he's still
had plenty of football left, and once a coach, always
a coach. Man taking that out of their DNA is
a hard replacement, regardless of the TV because now you're
talking out in a parking lot or you know, on
a set at Ohio State getting ready to play Michigan.
You're doing a pregame show at Texas versus Ohio State,

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and it's all great and you get the energy, but
guess what, you don't get the guy in your coat
and tie the Alabama color sitting next to Rhees Davis
and he's asking you the questions about the contest. It
doesn't go away to this day. I mean, I don't
want to can't move to do that. I can still
throw it, but I don't want to play football anymore.
But I can tell you this, the hardest thing about

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not coming back when I went into broadcasting, just a
far lesser story than Nick Saban, But for the first
two or three or four years, it's miserable because you're
broadcasting it and you're still feel you're young enough to play,
and you start comparing, well, I could be doing that.
I could be doing that, and so you're in another career,
but you're still thinking, man, should I I have an
opportunity here?

Speaker 4 (02:25:06):
Should it?

Speaker 1 (02:25:06):
It's hard to do and you've got to make a
mind in your decision. And I've always said this about
players who retire coaches who do walk away. Did if
you have if there's any hint of a player says,
I don't know, I'll revisit it. I'll revisit it when
they're coming Like a boxer, they're coming back if they say, well,
you know, because you have to have full closure to
walk away from that competition. I don't think Nick Saban

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has full closure from that. Yet he doesn't have nothing
anything to prove in his mind. His part of proven
is winning another national championship. I do believe the situation's right.
Like I said, he's not coming back to coach at
a place that he doesn't have a chance to win.
But I do believe that we did that his impact
will be felt stronger in coaching.

Speaker 4 (02:25:46):
He can always broadcast.

Speaker 19 (02:25:48):
Well he's looking at coaches sean saying I'm better than
that guy. I'm sure you did the saying you were
looking around going I'm better than that guy.

Speaker 1 (02:25:54):
Oh, there's no doubt you.

Speaker 3 (02:25:57):
Do.

Speaker 1 (02:25:57):
And the first two years of my retirement, Brian and
Did Green both called me and I told myself, Gordy,
and this was hard to do. Usually we tell ourselves
that we come back because they had injuries. If you remember,
it was when Randall Cunningham colled. They went through some
injuries and Brad Johnson and I was at a game
doing it. One of the guys got hurt. I got
to call the next week and Brian Billick said, well
he goes. I know there's still some magic in that arm.

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Because I was a veteran, I could back up. I
was a safety net because I didn't need a lot
of reps to understand they were running the same system.
But I said, let me think about it. And I
made the decision because I had already made the commitment
to broadcast, and I said, once I leave, I'm never
coming back. But it was miserable saying no, and imagine
what it's like on that guy who's the best of
all time, how miserable it is to walk away and

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not for any other reason other than well the nil
basically nil and the transfer portals wore him out. Hopefully
it'll get regulated, that's what we'll bring him back. Gordy. Yeah,
there you go.

Speaker 6 (02:26:50):
Chris Gordy joins us every Tuesday and Wednesday here on
the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 7 (02:26:54):
Cursey at Carbock Brewing and Gordy, I mean.

Speaker 6 (02:26:57):
It's Is it safe to say that this past week
of Astros baseball really made us want to drink?

Speaker 8 (02:27:02):
Well?

Speaker 19 (02:27:02):
I mean, yeah, it's it, certainly did. I mean I
always say maybe you're not having enough Crawford box. If
the Astros are losing. We're open to get out to
a little bit of the All Star Game tonight. And
the unfortunate thing over there at the ballpark in Atlanta's
they don't have the Crawford box. So that'll make me
for long, make me want to get back to Houston
and get myself a Crawford bock and hopefully, you know,

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get back to watching some Astros winning baseball there.

Speaker 8 (02:27:25):
But of course you know it, you love it when
you see at.

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Speaker 6 (02:27:37):
There you go, Chris Cordy every single Tuesday and Thursday
with Sean. One thing though, that I do want to
carry over with this Nick Saban topic because it is
something that we did kind of weave into it and
we can continue it right here as I'm here at
SEC Media Days in Atlanta. You guys back in the
studio Tripoli and also Sean with you here. But it

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is Sean Salisbury Show on a Tuesday, Sports Talk seven ninety.
The seven ninety listener line here in the nine o'clock
hour is presented by one eight hundred car Cash. One
thing we did talk about with Gordy, who appreciate him
joining us, is it's it's it's the beauty and the
curse of radio rows, as you well know from being

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you know, super Bowl radio rows, any other radio row
that you know, they tell you, hey, somebody's coming on.

Speaker 7 (02:28:24):
So then I was like, all.

Speaker 6 (02:28:24):
Right, hey, Gordy's got to go and then all of
a sudden, hey, they're not coming on just yet.

Speaker 1 (02:28:28):
So dealing with a little bit of that. But we've
been doing it for thirty years. Brother, I get it. Man,
It's it's about as then. See not nine thirty at
radio row means maybe nine twenty eight, maybe nine forty seven.
That's what that's what that means because people got people
are all over them. But I get it.

Speaker 4 (02:28:45):
I completely understand that.

Speaker 1 (02:28:47):
Well.

Speaker 6 (02:28:47):
My favorite one here, especially with teams, is you know, hey,
coach has like five minutes the plane's gonna leave. And
as a buddy of mine once said, when somebody told
him that, he goes.

Speaker 7 (02:28:56):
He is the plane. They're they're they're not leaving Kirby
Smart behind.

Speaker 6 (02:29:00):
They're not they're not leaving so and so behind because
he was five more minutes. Or the most convenient one
they like to go with is hey, the pilot's sewing us.
There's gonna be weather coming in, so we've got to
go quickly. It's like, no, you don't.

Speaker 1 (02:29:11):
Yeah, and then they stop, and then they stop and
do three other interviews on their way to the pilot. Yeah,
save it, Okay, we know we I know, we know
the pr game and you can't fool us with it.
I've seen it and used it a million times.

Speaker 7 (02:29:23):
There you go, for sure.

Speaker 6 (02:29:24):
But one of the you know, examples, a couple of
examples he brought up that I wonder if almost is
that play here with Nick saban Is. Of course, you know,
we've got the hype, we've got the at least thought
that he's going to come back to coaching. But a
couple of names. You mentioned, Bill Cower. How many times
during NFL howing hiring cycles did we hear, Oh, Bill Kower,
I'll be perfect in Carolina.

Speaker 7 (02:29:46):
He'd be perfect in.

Speaker 4 (02:29:47):
Over a decade, right over a decade of it.

Speaker 6 (02:29:50):
John Gruden too, I mean at both the college and
the pro level of everybody thinking, oh man, you know
Tennessee and Gruden, I mean, you know, it's so much
to the point where they started to call him.

Speaker 1 (02:29:59):
Groomer okay, And John is he does a great job
with Barstool. He's perfect for that, right, great gig. You
get the box deliveries, the barstool loves him. You get
to see his full personality. Lets it rip has a blow.
It looks like he's having as much fun as he's
ever had doing anything. If a big program in college
or NFL call him to coach, guess what he's doing.
If LSU call, if Brian Kelly didn't make it through

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and LSU calls Uh as much as the media, no
pressure to prepare for a game, and and and deal
with the media, and deal with all the pr and
deal with all those things and recruit all that stuff.
I'm done at NFL or college. As good as John
is with Barstool, and as much as he's a perfect
fit for them, you think if all of a sudden
L s U R s C called him after after

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this year and it didn't work or Dabble retired, you
don't think that John Gruden would be on the first
plane for the interview me. I mean immediately, that's exactly.
That's why. And even when you're having success somewhere else,
there's always that coaching thing that exists, and it exists
in John too.

Speaker 4 (02:31:00):
And I don't think John's.

Speaker 1 (02:31:01):
Made any secret that he'd you know, he'd love to
although he's killing it for them, maybe somebody takes another
chance on him at one of these levels as a
head coach.

Speaker 6 (02:31:11):
Yeah, I'll tell you what, Sean, you know what USC
I mean, you think about the guys that have come
through that program, and now I get to lead this thing.
No way, man, no way in a million years. Got
got the advisor on on the sidelines. I'm feeling good,
looking good.

Speaker 1 (02:31:26):
And if they offered it, he'd be all over it.
That's right.

Speaker 6 (02:31:29):
You thought that Pete Carroll had all this, had all
the celebrities on the sidelines.

Speaker 7 (02:31:33):
I got Snoop on speed dial. He'll be here in
any minute.

Speaker 1 (02:31:36):
There you go, man, And he's not lying, He is
not lying. So yeah, man, it's just it's it's a
hard thing to do. How the irony would be if
all of a sudden Dabbo did retire, which I don't
see happening. I think he loves the energy too, but
I still think I think the recruiting part of you know,
the nil and transport will bother him. And I think
it's been well documented. Wouldn't that be the irony of

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what did we always say when Nick Saban left for
for years?

Speaker 3 (02:32:00):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:32:00):
If Nick Saban retires, who's the man in waiting? Well,
his alma mater, it's got to be Dabbosweeney, right. Well,
then he's built Clemson into he's created You want to
be the guy that follows the guy. Like I said,
you don't want to follow even if you don't have to,
unless you're offered an opportunity. But it's tough, and so
Dabbles created that at Clemson. Imagine if Dabbo did retire

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and all of a sudden, Savan comes back and he
takes the Clemson job as opposed to Dabblo taking Alabama
when Nick Saban moved on.

Speaker 4 (02:32:28):
There's a lot of factors. I can tell you this.

Speaker 1 (02:32:31):
If Nick does come back, it's going to be a
program that's got blue blood in it, that's won a lot.
I assure you that that will be the case if
he comes back. I'm anxious to see if he can,
if he can stave it off, and I don't think
he can. I think it's in Nick's blood and in
his DNA, and I think we all know that and
we need him back. I would love it, although I
love him on TV, so but where's he going to

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impact the most on the sidelines yet? Man, TV's really
good with him on it on a Saturday morning with
herb Street and the guys.

Speaker 7 (02:32:59):
For sure.

Speaker 6 (02:33:00):
I mean, and even as you mentioned, I mean, it's
always there. So if he goes back, does it for
a couple of years, and then decides, you.

Speaker 1 (02:33:06):
Know, that seat will be open for him whenever he
wants it. Absolutely blank check. I mean open seat.

Speaker 6 (02:33:12):
Even if ESPN were foolish enough to say, well, coach,
we kind of filled your role, then here comes NBC.

Speaker 1 (02:33:18):
Add a seat to the set. Yeah, another seat to
the set. That role ain't ever filled when Nick Saban
wants that job, yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:33:25):
Get that.

Speaker 6 (02:33:26):
Just like the old massive deaths that they have during COVID,
you can go ahead and break that one back out
of retirement and bring it back for coach. But anyway,
as I mentioned, I'm here in Atlanta at SEC Media Days,
also to the All Star Game happening out here, and
Sean Tripley back in studio.

Speaker 7 (02:33:43):
John C.

Speaker 6 (02:33:44):
You want to weigh in on the phone line, says
we continue here day two from Atlanta. The SEC Media
Day's going on, and we're talking about it here Sean
Salisbury show on a Tuesday Sports Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 4 (02:33:57):
Wow, Sean Salzburg. He continues on seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (02:34:02):
His handler for the conference gives me the wrap it
up signal. I will text you and say, hey man, sorry,
but we'll have to try to bring him back on again.

Speaker 1 (02:34:10):
Yeah, that'd be great. Well, well, we'll get as much
at them as we can. He's a he's a I
love hearing his interviews because he doesn't pull any punches,
which I love. I can't wait till we get him
on tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (02:34:21):
Well, he definitely doesn't. It's one of those he doesn't
move for anybody because he doesn't have to. And that's
what the sec has been for these last few years.

Speaker 7 (02:34:29):
John and Neiville wants to weigh in this morning.

Speaker 8 (02:34:31):
John, Good morning, what's happening at cabin?

Speaker 7 (02:34:34):
Hey, what's up?

Speaker 8 (02:34:36):
Show?

Speaker 2 (02:34:36):
Do you do you?

Speaker 20 (02:34:38):
So, let's let's talk about this Gruden thing because it's
a very interesting point that you made. But at barstool,
because I've watched his barstool things and it's pretty cool
and he's having fun. You absolutely looks like he is.
But he's not censored there and in college, you're gonna
be censored.

Speaker 1 (02:34:57):
And I really and do you not think but since censored?
How censored? How from the way he talks? Yeah, well,
but he won't even be spending a whole lot of
time doing the media stuff. Just stuff you have to
as a coach he's not gonna be centered on recruiting. Hell,
there is no rules. They're not gonna be centered on
going into a parent so censor where he can't talk
to the media, that where he can't do what he

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wants to the media. Yeah, but but he's a strong person. Now,
if it was another broadcast company, like he was leaving
Barstool to go to ESPN, well, I mean then you
know that we'd be talking about race, gender. Uh you know,
then then then you spend it. Somebody'd ask a question
about x's and o's and John would start talking about it,
and they say, well, John, don't you want to talk

(02:35:39):
about if it's a black or white quarterback? Because that's
what they do there all too often instead of give
us get over the fatigue. So we can actually talk sports.
But there's a time and a place for it. It's
not on every comment So yeah, John would be centered
to make the lateral move to a network like that,
but on a podcast on on on Barstley camp. But
as a coach that they he may answer a little bit,

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but he'll he'll still sling his f bombs on the
sideline and do his thing. He'll just have to be
a little more. Uh, cognizant of winning where he says it.
But as a coach, he won't be censored. He'll be
able to do whatever he wants. You know what you
get when you're hiring Gruden.

Speaker 20 (02:36:13):
True, true, absolutely. I mean it's it's what it is.
It's baloney or tam. It ain't turkey, that's right now.

Speaker 2 (02:36:20):
My thing is this too.

Speaker 20 (02:36:22):
I ain't like Nick said, like coach Savan said, he
was glad he got. I think the n I L
and the transfer portal would would drive old school type.

Speaker 1 (02:36:33):
Why he's not coaching. That's why he's not coaching right now.
But when it changes, they'll get he'll back in. Yeah,
no doubt, Yeah, you.

Speaker 11 (02:36:40):
Know, I just it was crazy that went like like
you said, the.

Speaker 20 (02:36:43):
First thing I thought it was nil would drive him
just as bald as I am.

Speaker 1 (02:36:49):
You know, no doubt. Now if John did it, he
did just now. But they all want these a little
old school John would you know, having money and and
I L be great as long as it was regulating.
Wasn't the wild West. He wants to coach football, that's
what he wants to do.

Speaker 8 (02:37:03):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:37:03):
When he's out there, he loves the challenge.

Speaker 1 (02:37:05):
So uh, they just got to get a hold on that,
and then you'll see coaches stick around longer because it's
a pain in the ass get getting paid by the raiders.

Speaker 8 (02:37:13):
Still, I ain't hurting things either.

Speaker 1 (02:37:15):
Yeah that's a nice thing. Yet, Yeah, you ain't lying.

Speaker 8 (02:37:18):
One more quick thing.

Speaker 2 (02:37:20):
Where's Lee man?

Speaker 3 (02:37:21):
Man?

Speaker 20 (02:37:21):
I ain't heard or see nothing from Lehman A wild man.

Speaker 1 (02:37:23):
I talked to him, But I get to say that
about every day, every other day. He's doing fine.

Speaker 4 (02:37:27):
He's out there, you know, hob hob nobbin with the
big wigs.

Speaker 1 (02:37:30):
You know what I'm saying. He's a big he's big.
You know, he's running the show oil and gas. He's
doing well.

Speaker 2 (02:37:34):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:37:34):
He'll be over at the house a bunch in the
fall for football games, so you'll get to run into him. Brother,
there you go.

Speaker 6 (02:37:41):
And I mean, you know the other thing is to
you know, think about with Cruden or you know, saving
or any of these guys. It's all about situations, Sean.
I mean, do you know the school president? Do you
know the A d. Do you know that? I mean
for a guy like Rudin, he's been coaching for a
long time, he knows how to handle the media. He
knows how to go about his business. Hell, that's why

(02:38:02):
he's got this John Barstool right now.

Speaker 1 (02:38:04):
Yes, and he saw it from a corporate part when
he was doing Monday Night Football with Tarico, and now
he gets to see it from the influencer fun a
little more youth on the side. You know, he's seen
it both ends, the corporate side as a broadcaster where
you got to watch you say, and now at Barstool
and had time to mull over what went on, what
he needs to do different, what he needs to keep
the same. And what happens is a lot of the

(02:38:27):
guys that maybe have a disdain for the media part
going in, when they come out of it, it's different.
They're like, Okay, now I understand why you asked that question.
I understand why. So it becomes a little more for
them tolerable that they have to listen to us, and
now they were it. So they get asking a question
or why a tough question sometimes needs answered and people

(02:38:47):
are inquiring. So it can open up a new perspective.
And for John it probably will because he will have
seen both ends of the media spectrum, the fun young
stuff and the little corporate world and doing the top
job in sports, which is Monday Night football. Yet also
it was a Monday night or Sunday. It was Monday
night right Sunday night or Monday night, Monday, Monday night
right Monday with right the night of the broadcast teams.

(02:39:08):
But also John also you know, we know he loves
the competition and coaches coaching x's and o's. We'll see
if that opportunity presents itself. But in the meantime, looks
to me like he's having a.

Speaker 7 (02:39:19):
Blast, no doubt about it.

Speaker 6 (02:39:21):
And we've had a blast today for four hours here
on the show. That means we owe you four more
again tomorrow we will.

Speaker 1 (02:39:28):
Do all of that, plus continue everything from here in
Atlanta at SEC Media Days the All Star Game happening tonight,
sean special.

Speaker 6 (02:39:35):
Thanks to you, Buddy Triple Le, Same Deal, and Chris, Gordy,
Craig Way, everybody else who joined us today here on
the show, The Matt Thomas Show, with Ross coming up next.
We will talk to you in twenty hours