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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Shawburybury.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Salisbury to usc trop longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Sewan Salisbury Show.
Speaker 5 (00:24):
There's a shot to left field and there is the
first home run. That's huge, that is so much pressure?
Is this one in the left center field? And Brent
Rooker hits two for the American League. Karl Ravitch is
San Sea. There's the line drive right center field, then
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finds so just got it is so good right there
there is the drive for the Battle of a Rose Arena.
How far does this one go? Shor in the air
center field, headed towards the wall, a dead center of
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her swing, and he did.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Shore bas in the All Star Game tied it three man.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
L has rallied in the swing of the.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
Trick O chop House.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
National League takes the night for the three unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (01:32):
Ronda slice as a flatboat to left center field, headed
towards the wall, but sure, and the National League wins
it in the.
Speaker 8 (01:42):
First swing off, the first homer off in Major League
Baseball All Star Game history. And with that would say
away we go in good morning here on the Sean
Salisbury Show. As Sean, last night we saw Kyle Schwarber
hit three home runs, Brent Rooker for the American League
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hit two, and Randy or Rose Arena hit one, and
also Josh Kyle Stours for the Marlins with one. But
for all of the possible belly aching that could be.
I mean, at the same time, too, Sean, are we
really making too much of a big deal about it
if we are belly aching? Because it is an All
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Star game and frankly, you just wanted to end.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
I look at it different.
Speaker 9 (02:31):
I thought the production in the game was good, and
I'm old school, and man, I thought you told me
yesterday they were wearing uniforms they were their own.
Speaker 8 (02:42):
I thought they were too. Once I got there and
I saw that, I was like, okay, I like this.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Yeah, that's the other thing.
Speaker 9 (02:48):
Man, they're in they're old they're they're doing it the
way that they're supposed to it. Even who was it
it was interviewed, Oh Darren Boone. When he said, yeah,
they were talking about the uniforms, he goes, yeah, you know,
they basically screwed it up for a couple of years.
We're back and everybody should wear their own uniform So
I saw that, I was like, Okay, they did do it,
so they're learning. I and this is I'm hard on
All Star games, and not that anybody cares, but I
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for myself, I am, and I think the Major League
Baseball All Star Game is one. Now there's some things
I think the pomp and circumstance of all the I prefer,
although the music getting seeing Luda it was pretty cool.
I mean, had the music, they were pumping, there was
a little rhythm going in the energy in the stadium.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
I loved it, but I still prefer call out.
Speaker 9 (03:30):
All the guys line up third and first baseline to
step out, and you know, some guy steps out there
from Philly, like when schwarbur would have get introduced. They
get they get booed, and they smirk and smile and
touch their cap. I like that part of it. But
in truth, the Hank Aaron stuff for the in the
seventh inning was was phenomenal. That three D whatever that
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is that you know, uh what do they call it when.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
You're yeah, hologram stuff?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It was.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
I did, and I'm old school.
Speaker 9 (03:58):
I like I I wish we were still being able
to run through the catcher at home plate. I do
I love that old school stuff when you see the
highlights of Dave Parker, you know, wheeling in right field
and throwing somebody out at third and then turn around
throwing the one at home from previous All Star Games.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
I actually thought the production was good.
Speaker 9 (04:15):
I thought the I thought the uh the electronics, you know,
the did the electronics strike zone. I loved it because
it was urgent. Guys got a smile when they challenge it.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
I did. I had no problem with it, and I'm
old school want.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
The yump, I thought.
Speaker 9 (04:30):
I thought it was it was urgent and they went through.
I had no problem. I actually liked and I don't
like gimmicks and baseball. Ever, I thought the way it ended,
I wouldn't. God, they had no pictures left. It's an exhibition,
so how do you make it thrilling? So you don't
walk off there and it's like I just kissed my sister.
It's nine and we tied. Great comeback by the American League.
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And then the drama of three pitches not you get
a minute where you just keep swinging the clutch part
of three pitches, got hit it out and Schwarber did
what whoever does clutch as hell? Philadelphia toughness and smokes
three out down on one knee.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
I actually liked it. I know, if you're.
Speaker 9 (05:08):
Bitching about it, then sometimes you then you just don't
like some change. I thought that there was elements of
it that, you know, we're a little over the top.
The Hank Aaron thing was awesome. I don't know how
they do all this hologram stuff, but it was.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
It was brilliant.
Speaker 9 (05:23):
I thought that, you know, Smoltz and Joe Davis were fun.
I like guys getting miked up. I'll tell you what,
give me Clayton Kershaw miked up the whole game and
it'll be brilliant awesome because some guys here know, not
real talkative, and they're going, like cal Raley, good dude,
but he's really quiet and he's focused at a job
idole plate. I kind of liked that schooble. They're talking
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in the middle, I mean, Kershaw's winding up. Hey, Smoltz,
what do you want you? I don't throw a cutter?
I mean in his wind up Smolty, what are you talking?
I don't throw a cutter. I mean for watching that.
I loved it, and they it's an all starting experiment.
Some of the give I think you can, you can
adjust things. But in truth and the way it ended,
you had to play three guys that were were still
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playing at the end of the game. You can't go
back and give me Judge and Otani. It was cool.
It was three. You know you probably of the six
guys Schwarber, well two of them and one of them
didn't get to the plate in you know, in uh
the Polar Bear. But because of Schwarber's you know, bingo
banngo bongo home runs, I decided that the fellas were
out of the dugout, up off the steps, fired up
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for a guy you're going to compete with now starting
on Friday again, I thought it was for me and
my liking. I thought you got good performances. I thought
you had some some some really really good swings of
the bat. And I'm gonna tell you what, man, we
we have every guy on the planet seems to pump
it ninety nine or better ninety watching these cats one
O three, one O two, And I get why that
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Mark Fidrich stuff with the kid from Milwaukee was.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Why am I losing my mind? The young kid who
made it?
Speaker 9 (06:56):
Yeah, exactly, he I mean pumping at one O two
one with a big old smile on his face. Looked
like he belongs at a in an Acne commercial at
sixteen years old talking about high school.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
I'm sending up.
Speaker 9 (07:09):
Pete crow Armstrong looks like he belongs on the Baseball
Show with the guy the kids with the Babe Ruth Baseball.
You know, the old school Baseball Show. What's where they
hit in the backyard and the dog's back there and
James Earl Jones' knows Babe Bruce. Yeah, the Sandlight. I
just watched it two days ago, Sandlot. That guy looked
like he belonged on that team. Pete crow Armstrong looks.
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I mean, we had a taste of young kids of
veterans like Schwarber, of Kershaw getting in there and then
pulling him out at the right time, Dave Roberts making
sure Freeman got his I thought there was elements of
it that were awesome. I did, and the comeback it
was just to me, if we're not gonna get old school,
let's at least do something that keeps it going. And
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while I don't like gimmicks, I thought the end of
the game that was great and.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
The way it ended, Are you kidding me?
Speaker 9 (07:58):
Down on one knee and Schwarber pumps it into this
and then you got to come up with the guy
you would have never chosen had he had not been
in the game. At the end, I ran and bam,
pumps won two feet from the top of the wall.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
That ties.
Speaker 9 (08:10):
I mean, what was not to like about that part
of it? There was a thrill and the guys had
a smile on their face when they challenged the call,
the call on a Rosa rain and didn't even get
to swing the bat earlier, and smiling and standing at
home plate.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
I did. I liked it.
Speaker 9 (08:24):
I thought it was a good All Star game, and
I thought that some of the additions Rob Manford's made
a lot of dumb decisions, but he did some he
did some good things. And I was impressed with the broadcast.
I was, and I liked the game, and I like
how they ended it without going to extra innings, which
normally I'd say, play fifteen of them, who cares, well,
what are you going to do? Start throwing third basement
and have them pitch? So I thought the managers got
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the guys in they needed to, and I thought it
was a really, really good execution of a game and
getting everybody a look, and the ballpark was rocking.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Loved it.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
I did, yeah, as me and Gordy were leaving the ballpark,
because we did leave it a little bit or to
get back, you know. I mean, obviously I got to
wake up early, and you know, we've got long day
ahead here in Atlanta.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
But I see you off the distance, I see.
Speaker 8 (09:08):
Lightning strikes and I'm like, oh man, I wonder if
that's coming this way, and Gordy goes, would they delay it?
I go, I don't even know if they put the
tarp on the field, Gordy. I think if it happened,
they would just say, hey, sorry, everybody go home, We're
done for this year.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (09:22):
But they didn't. That's the great thing. You got to
see it. And my dumb ass stayed up and watched
the whole thing. Tell late, I mean getting up in
three throw like you said, what what the hell am
I doing? But I didn't go and say why did
I stay up and watch that? I mean, you needed
three from shore ra It was just back comebacks on
both sides. I thought it was awesome. And then watching
these young pitchers and veterans like if you throw ninety five,
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you're a You're a bum arm It's crazy. I mean,
kershaw kid about he is like, oh man, what'd I
do throwing at ninety? Would I do really ramp it up?
Or whatever he said to ninety one miles an hour?
I mean, these guys, I mean, And there were so
many good stories about thirty years old and playing in
his first All Star give you know, moved around by
five or six teams, and he's playing in his first game.
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And this kid's twenty one, twenty Pete crow Armstrong. It
looks like he's got forty years to play. Doesn't even
know the he can't. I look at him, I think, dude,
can you can you actually walk into a bar? I mean,
And then you think about how brilliant some of these
players are. Tucker's catching left field. The competitiveness comes out,
but I felt like there were smiles on there now.
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Just as much as I'm not a big home run
Derby fan, the way they do it was I was
a fan because I was expecting, Oh gosh, I'm gonna
this is gonna be one. I'm gonna turn it off
in the third inning. I was actually into it, So
I think they did a good job, and I think
the players are going to their next city feeling like
overall it was a hell of a good one. We
got some good young players. Every year I see him.
You know, what's one thing the why they haven't. I
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look at Milwaukee and think, how have they won two
or three World Series?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Dude?
Speaker 9 (10:50):
Does anybody produce more power arms or in their organization?
I mean, you go to Milwaukee, you better be able
to throw a hundred, or you just don't. You don't belong.
I mean it's been going on for years. Another arm,
another arm, another arm. They've always have and they're on
a roll too. So now we get to look to
the second half. I thought it was a really really
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fun game and uh, some really talented future players, but
also we got some we got some veterans that are
cagey and hanging around and and good on Kyle Schwarber.
He got that baseball bat for the m v P,
you know that that see through bat or whether his
silver bat, whatever it was. Does he get does he
get a vehicle? Did they cheap it up this year
that doesn't he get a or is that just the
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World Series MVP? Because I thought I thought there was
always like a car behind them that they got to
you know, they got a trophy and that like the
bat and then all of a sudden, say, hey man,
you get your new you know, GMC whatever it is
or Chevy or whatever, whoever's doing the sponsoring and is
sitting behind him and they hand him the keys. I
kind of I thought, well, is there is there another
award coming? They're not They're not going on the cheap,
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are they? I mean the tariffs hitting them too, but
just joking, you know, but it was a what was
going on and thinking who's going to be the MVP?
And initially I thought it was going to be Rooker,
you know, and he may be after he homered again
because he hit the three run job to get their
scoring started. And then Schwarber goes Bengo bang go bongo.
And the excitement of the teammates, that's my favorite thing
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about it. The laughs and the excitement of the teammates
when the buddies are celebrating, and you know, young kids
that came in the league begging to hang around Clayton
Kershaw like who's this cat? You know, even the schemes,
these great pitchers and then turn around and watching Kershaw
have as much energy as a twenty year old last night,
and then the way Dave Roberts took him out at
the right time, got a couple outs and brought him
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out and let him play to an applause. I'm telling
you now, Clayton Kershaw will not forget that last night.
You could tell even if Freddy Freeman coming back there.
I love the emotion now when people ask me, well,
what do you care about the All Star Gamer?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Why go?
Speaker 6 (12:50):
That's why why go? Well, that's why some of these.
Speaker 9 (12:53):
Cats that made it their first time may not make
it again, especially a veteran. You know, a pitcher that's
been a journeyman and all of a sudden now he's
close in for the San Diego Padres with the and
it's like, damn, I don't know. That's why you go
to talk to Clayton Kershaw to watch these guys get
because you know what, you don't get that in real life.
They don't stand in ovation when you walk out of
a building it in office, Okay, you just don't get that.
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And so that's why if you're ever questioned players, hey man,
you had to stay home and get yourself rested. An allstarright,
no rest, if you're not going to play, get your
ass to the game and see Clayton Kershaw will remember
this as a phenomenal moment in his career because why
his peers were sitting there in awe of his career
and they got to recognize it in an All Star
game from a distance. It's one thing, but they got
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to give him dap and high five and he got
to have some energy.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Strike a guy out. That's why you go.
Speaker 9 (13:44):
So if ever your question is a player out there
and you got and and you can't play in the game,
or you're tired, okay, fake a hamstring, but get your
ass to the All Star Game and rest there in
the dugout with the fellas. That's why you go. I
thought it was it was a I thought it was
a damn good All Star game. We got a bunch
of home runs, which we haven't had in an All
Star game in a minute, So it was it was
a cool go and uh baseball tip of the hat.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
And I love the energy and I love the way
it ended. I thought it was great.
Speaker 8 (14:11):
Yeah, and you know you probably got Pete Alonzo out
there too. That's like, hey, wait a minute, you know,
my three run homer. Did that not count for something?
But then Kyle Schwarber said, yeah, man, just hold on there.
But uh, the localle two to this is number one.
The al had one pitcher left.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
It was Josh Hater. Yeah, so I'm sure.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
I'm sure Joe a Spota especially too. Was it Corby
and Carrol that.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
Got hit on the hand and then he it was
who hit on the hand? Was yeah, genial size?
Speaker 9 (14:40):
Yeah, yeah, so I mean he and then he goes
in next a brilliant play the next inning at third base,
a one handed stab on the run that the Machado
play and throws him out.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
So go ahead and finish.
Speaker 9 (14:50):
Yeah, when he got hit, you were talking about your
reasoning for yeah, when you talk about getting hit her yeah,
oh you're talking about the Astros.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
It didn't play right.
Speaker 8 (14:59):
Right, Yeah, So I mean, you know, that's one of
those where as a manager it's like, all right, hey,
you know, put my players, you know they're there the
rest of their season in your hands right here. And
I'm sure probably Tory Lavello right there was like, oh man,
no way, he just got one of my guys hurt.
We're trying to make a push trying to avoid trading
guys away. But you mentioned the Hank Aaron tribute Mile
Hamilton on the call when he was working here in Atlanta,
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they played that and he had Vince Scully part of it.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Of course.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Yeah, they put him both on there.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
It was awesome, cool, Dan.
Speaker 9 (15:28):
You know, I remember I watched that game live on
television because I was in California. And why I remember
Al Downing and you know who caught that ball? You
know who caught that ball in the in the bullpen?
Was it Burton Tom House? Tomhouse, Nolan Ryan's guy. And
when he was at the Texas Rangers, he used to
play catch with Nolan Ryan with the football. And now
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Tom House is like the biomechanics guy in California that
everybody goes to for for mechanics, and it's in la
I think it might even be on my campus. I
think it's at least he's got something, you know, spends
a lot of time us.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
See.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
Tom House was that guy I'll never forgive. When they
had the temporary wall above the other one just in
front of it and the bullpens behind it, and you
could I see through wall. It was like a little glass,
you know, you know, a plexiglass fence in the left field.
I'll never forget it. I was watching as a young
kid on television because we used to get Angels and
Dodgers games and Vince Scully and you know, Dick Enberg,
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and so I remember watching it because the excitement around
Hank Aaron and baseball was everything to me growing up. Well,
and I'll never forget Tom House caught it. I believe
he caught it on the fly in the bullpen and
then the guys coming out in the field. But I
thought the way they handled it was was awesome. In
here and Milo and then Vin Scully make the call.
The production was really good. And I do I don't.
I like human air, but man alive. I kind of
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like the anticipating and how quickly they turned around the
strike zone call and guys would smirk and get off.
I think that's going to be a fun one to
find out where we're going with that. But for All Star,
as all Star games go, this this the NBA and
NFL turn around, put your tail between your legs and
walk away. You no shot to compete until you change
things or get rid of it. That's the best All
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Star game in the world and hockey second. The other
two are non existent, and they make no mistake about that.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Now tons of fun.
Speaker 8 (17:12):
And another thing too with that moment is the footage
they showed, like you said, the hologram everything, because mostly
we see that, you know, NBA games, the final four,
we'll use that with the on court kind of you know,
all of the presentation that they have there. But Craig Sager,
you know, obviously he left us a few years ago,
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but Craig Sager, a young cub reporter. You see him there,
not in the flashy suits, but at least as Hank
was joined by his teammates, you see a young Craig
sit right thereby.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yep, just just legends all over this thing.
Speaker 10 (17:48):
Man.
Speaker 9 (17:48):
I loved it, Man, I did. And like I said,
I'm kind of hard. It's like okay, And I went
in with a kind of a we'll see. And I
was pleasantly surprising. I think there was.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
If you're going to.
Speaker 9 (17:58):
Stay up that lake to watch it, and you gotta
get up early the next day, give me some wow factor.
And boy did they ever coming from behind. And then
Schwarber answering the call, and and Alto not even gets
to hold his bat, doesn't even have to swing, so
maybe he wanted to, but soever was like, hey man,
let's just go see yeah, and they were all a
little nervous, but hey, you cut it loose and they
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had fun. That's when an All Star gave is fun.
Nobody gets hurt and we have a fun game. And
then if you're gonna have gimmicks and home run off,
that's the way you do it.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
And it was was brilliant. I loved it last night.
It was really good.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
Yeah, tons of fun. Jason, see right there. Get you
involved in the conversation. You want to join them? Someone
three two one two five seven ninety. Once again, that's
Sebon one three two one two five seven ninety. Still
it come this morning here on.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
The show as well.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
At seven twenty are uh yeah, actually excuse me? Seven
forty five, New Senior Bowl director Drew Fabiani's gonna stop by.
Formerly of the Dallas Cowboys, he is now in charge
of that game in Mobile and SEC Commissioner Greg Sanki
going to join us at eight and Georgia head coach
Kirby Smart with a lot of local ties. We'll hear
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from him as he is going to join us at
nine fifteen. But we're just getting started here on a
Western Wednesday edition of The Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk
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Speaker 9 (19:27):
With some wind and scattered rain throughout. It will be
soft at times, the greens and it's going to be
a hell of a one because I think most golfers,
I mean, it's where golf started, and you know, and
obviously in Scotland, but you know, on the other side
of the pond. And they atay Ram said it's the
most important major you talk about. Rory said, this is,
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you know, even bigger is what I had circled, even
more so than ever, even more than the Masters this year.
And he was going for that, and I know it
means it to you know, probably and even America. The
reverence that Scottie Scheffler has for the Open and just
the way you got to play it different.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
That's why I like it about this. It makes it different.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
You just can't bring the course to its knees because
you can hit the ball country mile just like our
pictures seemed to everybody seems to throw one hundred ninety
eight ninety nine. Everybody seems if you're hitting it two
ninety five, you're nowhere near the top fifty. And driving
distance too, I mean those guys. But if you can
hit it there, if you can hit irons, the team
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last time that was played there, I think it was
Shane Lowry who wanted at this golf course. Obviously he's
a Northern Ireland guy, so it's from right around a corner,
this is where this one is. I think during the
week those four days he hit more greens than anybody.
So if you don't hit greens, you can't win there,
and unless you're putting out of your friggin mind, But
it won't be the driving distance that wins it. It'll
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be driving accuracy and hitting shots that hold greens and
you can make it. And while it's beautiful, the water
doesn't come into play on the golf course, but the
visuals are about as good as Pebble Beach too, So
it's going to be it's gonna be fun to watch
and if you want creative, you're gonna see stuff that
I if if it dries and it's not wet and
dry there, and I'm the reason I did.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
It's weird, it's fair. I feel like I'm gonna be
on the broadcast like to.
Speaker 9 (21:10):
Study and I'm gonna play it right, but I'll bet
it and I can't wait to watch it. But you're
gonna see guys putting from way off the green.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Like you did at the Scottish Open last week.
Speaker 9 (21:20):
But you're gonna see guys hitting irons like like running
them up and you're saying, there's no way, and it's
gonna roll for forty five or fifty yards and it's
gonna roll onto the green and off or on. Creativity
for this, you're gonna have to be far more creative
here than you are on any US course. So this
is gonna be fun to watch and kind of the
way golf was supposed to be. Just because you're a
long hitter, you don't get to bring the course to
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its knees because you'll find yourself in a pot bunker
and you're you're you're getting one of those deep bunkers.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
You have to play out backwards at times. So I
can't wait to see it.
Speaker 12 (21:48):
Man.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
I love I love everything about this tournament. And some
of the guys in the dress I watched, you know
with my guy Jason Why am I Jason Day who
wears that Malbourne stuff. The bagyar closed and he had
a cool outfit on on one of the practice ons, Like, okay,
I can hear the bagpipes already, So I'm looking forward
to it. Man, I'm looking forward to the second half
of baseball. But it's a good start. When you wake
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up tomorrow morning and the British opens in full swing.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
The long hitters not the ones to play this week,
so the Dalai Lama really doesn't have much of a chance,
I guess.
Speaker 9 (22:19):
Unless, of course, you're a long hitter and that thing
lands in the fairway and you know how to be
creative around the greens because you can hit it in
a fairway. But if you can't put or hit greens
even from the fairway, trouble. But creativity and the ability
to be patient. Because he makes six pars, you may
gain on somebody. He makes six bars in a row.
It's going to be going to be difficult in depending
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on the conditions, but it'll be a fun watch.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
It definitely will.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
Did we lose Dan there?
Speaker 10 (22:48):
Uh?
Speaker 13 (22:49):
Yeah, I think he must have disconnected somehow.
Speaker 9 (22:52):
Well, we will and we'll get back. We get We'll
take a little break here. It's perfect timing. If he's
going to go out, perfect timing. It is Sports Talk
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Maybe that's the one thing that the theatrics in a
little bit over ambitious with the ad where it's like
too much. Maybe for some they just want to get
to baseball a little old school, but there are some
who love all the pomp and circumstance and goes with it.
But I thought, all in all, the game wise and
the and I don't know about the electronics strikes on
what you felt, but I really it was. I thought
it was once the game started, I thought it was
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a hell of a watch.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
It really was. And that was elite crooning.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
Remember how we talked about that numerous times, Zach Brown
and his band, And remember what I told you too,
Sean Is. During my time here in Atlanta, it was
known if it's a big game, oh was surprise Zach
Brown and the Zach Brown Band singing the national anthem
much like klay Walker in Houston. If it's a big
game in Houston, well then Klay Walker is gonna be
singing the national anthem.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
Yeah, it's like Jeffrey Osbourne with a lake. I mean
it was Jeffrey Osbourne. I mean it's always singing. When
I was going, they'd have the you know, the national
anthem reform the same way at the at the Fabulous
Forum back in the day. So yeah, I uh, I
thought the I love a capella national anthem, so all
in all, but the game, the approach once the game started,
I thought it was pretty damn good man.
Speaker 14 (25:58):
It was impressive.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
Are sure someone three two and two five seven ninety
the number to get in Jason wants to get us
going this morning, Jason, good morning.
Speaker 15 (26:09):
What an excellent All Star game. I like the changes
and everything that they did, the uniforms as well. I
mean it kind of got that old school feel that
that Hain't Aaron moment was just phenomenal. And I know
years ago they was gonna do a tribute for him
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whenever it was supposed to go there the first time,
but I don't think it would have been as special
as last night. The special effects and everything else. I mean,
I grew up in Southeast Louisiana and that's pretty much
all we watched down there on TBS. And I'm an
old school guy, so I could remember taking BCR tapes
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and just recording special moments and every time they played
that or every time they had a rain out, we
just pick a tape and put it in. And that's
just one of those moments that I just wish still
stood the record itself. And that's not as stab at
Barry Bonds. I know the game changed differently, but back then,
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the way baseball was played, you know, it was just traditional.
It was old school. If you was out, he was out.
There was no challenges. And just watching that moment last night,
you know, and the way that they played it out,
you know, I'm sitting there watching it with the kids,
and I could just sit there and remember me and
my grandpa just sitting in front of the TV watching
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that moment, watching they hit you know, like you said,
the calling of the game when Vince Scully was I mean,
it's just moments like that. You just you love to
see it when it comes back, and you love how
they played it, and I just I even commented on
one of Dan's posts last night, and that's just the
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moment that I still love watching and I love what
they did.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Man, the ball.
Speaker 15 (28:00):
Going in the air, the three D effect where you know,
the scoreboard saying seven fifteen. It is like, it's just
just the way they did. It was great. Man, it
was a great game all around.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
All right. Appreciate the call, Jason.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
I mean, Sean, I was here in twenty twenty one
when it was supposed to be here the first time,
and it was building up because remember that was the
year that Hank died, so he had passed away before
the season, and you know what he means around here.
But they were going to make the entire game a
huge celebration of his life. And then, of course Major
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League Baseball deciding to move out because of political pressure
and then returning a couple of years later. But at
least his wife, Billy was there, a lot of his
family was there to be able to see that moment.
And I know that on Monday when the teams were
going through their warm ups, they had everybody wearing number
forty fours.
Speaker 9 (28:57):
Yeah, it's just it's phenomenal. I mean, the guy, I
think he's the most and hear me when I say this,
and we know and I love that they had the
quote that he's known as a great baseball player, but
even a better man when he had said that in
an interview a while back. I think Hank Aaron maybe
the most underrated baseball player of all time. Now, when
you say, say, how Sean look at his numbers? Look
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at when you look at Hank Aaron's numbers. The dude
was in twenty five All Star Games. Twenty five So
that tells you how long he played and what he
had to overcome in the race department and dealing with
that and still in thriving and playing all those years.
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So he was durable, played a long time and a
great stat last night. Take away all his home runs.
Do you realize he still has three thousand hits and
that's that's seven hundred plus home runs. So and that
never gets talked to. That's exactly right. Well, look at
his walks. His numbers is run scored. When we say
who are the best players of all time? He's the oh,
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that's right guy, and he shouldn't be. But that's why
I think he's You say, how's a guy that good? Underrated? Well,
go through it. You'll people say Babe, Ruth, Willie, Mays
and Otani and Trout, and then you'll roll through you know,
the the the DiMaggio's and Mantles, and you'll, I mean you'll,
you'll get you'll, you'll just start rolling through the great player.
Judges numbers square up as far as all time, and
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Judge is having a triple crown here, one of the
great hitters, right handed hitters, with his the way he's
adjusted now he's sitting for average and home runs. I mean,
you go through Stan usual Ted Williams, you start rolling.
We start naming the best players of all time, and
it's always Mays and Ruth, Barry Bonds. You start going
down the list, and then you get to about fit. Oh,
that's right, that's right, it's it's Henry erin No. When
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you really look at his impact and what he's done
and what he had to overcome, he's the most underrated
baseball player, in my opinion, of all time.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
And I just I.
Speaker 9 (30:57):
It's a it's a bummer it got delayed, but I'm
glad it went back there, and I'm glad they did
what they did. And he has not only beloved in Atlanta,
but all over the country, and what a player, what
a gentleman, what a moment it was last night, and
what a career. He's underrated he is when he took
to the best, he'll people who start rolling and it's like, yeah,
they'll throw Roberto Clemente in and white rightfully. So I
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mean you can go around all that see all the
great players, and then you get to, dude, are you
forgetting Henry.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Oh that's right, Hank Aaron, Yeah, he's that good.
Speaker 9 (31:27):
So tremendous, tremendous career and All Star Game did a
nice job recognizing that last night.
Speaker 8 (31:34):
And you know, I mean it's a great point by
you of the fact that he had three thousand plus hits.
So you're like, okay, how is that not talked about
a little bit more? And then I mean, you're not wrong.
You know, we always mentioned you know, Ruth Mantle, you
know more of the you know, modern age guys that
we mentioned more as you mentioned you know, Barry Bonds,
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Ken Grippy, junior guys like that, and it's like, no,
you probably need to mention Hank Karen a little bit more.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
It's it's true.
Speaker 9 (32:02):
I mean, it's really crazy how we kind of just
blow by it. But it's I don't know why. Maybe
because he was not a big self promoter. You know,
Hank Aaron played at a time where it was on
one channel, you know, I mean it just you know,
whether it's TV a coup, right, and it's just And
like I said, he wasn't a big self promoter to
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twenty five All Star games. I mean it's sick and
just to approach it with class. And have you ever
heard anybody say they don't like Hank Aaron A gentleman,
a gentleman right everything?
Speaker 6 (32:33):
I mean, who doesn't like and love Hank Aaron?
Speaker 9 (32:37):
And then they carrying the burden around of halving the
deal when you walk into a ballpark of people calling
you names that they shouldn't call you at any point
that should never come out anybody's mouth towards anybody, and
you had to listen to that and then still go
hit all those And it's not often guys hit seven
home runs and still get three thousand plus hits that
aren't home runs. I mean, so apply the power and
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the average. Just a phenomenal career for a guy who,
by all accounts was being an incredible gentleman as well,
I always like it, but I think he and if
you took the most underrated player from each sport, all
time great from each sport, that becomes the Oh that's right,
that guy, Hank Aaron would represent baseball in my opinion,
as the most underrated player in baseball history with those
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numbers and what he's done and his durability and longevity
and performance and production and what he handled off the field.
I don't know how you don't he's not a top
ten player of all time. I don't know how we
leave him out.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, it definitely needs to be.
Speaker 9 (33:35):
And I'm probably cheating him by saying, hi, top ten.
I'm probably cheating him by saying top ten. In truth
should probably move him up to the top five. Yeah,
I was gonna say five or three. Yeah, him, Ruth Bonds,
that Barry Bonds is as good as I've seen. And
we're going to be talking about Otani the same way
if this continues. So yeah, man, it's it's what an
honor it was to watch him play, But I'm sure
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what an honor it was for some of those guys
to be his teammates.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Pretty cool, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 8 (34:02):
And you know, a couple of other things from the
All Star Game that stood out last night.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
We'll get into on the other side.
Speaker 8 (34:07):
Also, you want to join us sebon one three two
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Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Let the celebration start more Seawn Salisbury, It's a Sean
Salisbury show.
Speaker 8 (34:34):
So remember a couple of years ago when the satellite
camps craze hit college football, and you had some coaches
and commissioners and people out there saying, you can't go
around the country, you know, hosting these camps and allow
for all of these kids to be there and college
coaches can be there, Like that's that's a recruiting advantage.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
You can't do that.
Speaker 8 (34:54):
And it happened for about one year and then they
were like, all right, if you're gonna do these, you
gotta do them on your campus all that kind of stuff. Well, anyway,
Jim Harbaugh was the guy that was the biggest proponent
of it, and he was going all over the country.
He was coming here to Atlanta, he was going to Florida,
he was going to Texas, he was going to California,
wherever it was. And he would invite other coaches. I mean,
he left it open and was like, hey, you want
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to show up, you can be here. And that's fine,
it's all good. But we get out there to try
to get Harball to talk about it and get there,
and funny enough, the guy that I ran into first
was Jed Fish and I knew that he was his
top lieutenant at the time, and I just.
Speaker 9 (35:30):
Asked, Hey, Michigan and he's not ahead Kachia University of Washington.
Speaker 8 (35:35):
Yea, he is, and uh, of course, you know, he
and Jim had an interesting moment pre draft with Jameis Winston.
You don't know what I'm talking about, go look it up.
So they said he's in the school. So and he
said he's into school with Hank Aaron And I'm like, what.
So go in there and there's like this little small auditorium,
I guess, and it's kind of like a panel style
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of Jim Harball, Hank cam and Andrew Young civil rights
civil rights icon. They're talking, you know, just about Atlanta,
growing up in the South, everything like that. And you
see Harball sitting there wearing a Hank Aaron jersey as
he's just kind of like a like a little kid
soaking it all in and listening to Hank Aaron talk about,
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you know, what it was like to grow up in
and to have the career that he did and the
stories of his career, everything of the sorts. So just
kind of ties into everything that we saw last night,
especially the tribute.
Speaker 9 (36:31):
They had no doubt about it, and that's I'm sure
that the folks of Atlanta, and when it came on,
it was like, Okay, what are they doing here? And
then boom the light and having Hank Aaron and the voices,
and it just I thought the production it felt like
that thing had been planned for two years.
Speaker 6 (36:47):
I mean that particular.
Speaker 9 (36:49):
I know this has been planned to have a tribute,
but I mean particular, just the way they did it.
I'm intrigued with all that technology and the way they
do that. It's pretty amazing to me. They brought it
to life and it was pretty special. So yeah, it
was And I understand if you're if you like it's crazy,
but I baseball history hits me harder than any other sport.
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History in basketball will be second. I know the history
of those better. If i've I've been more intrigued with it.
And baseball history has always intrigued me just because I
like old ballparks and I wish it would have and
I wish we had a way to go back and
play a game at the Polo Grounds if it was
still like we do it the you know, the the
Field of Dreams. It'd be great if the old ballparks,
you go back to old Tiger State, if they were
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you know, if the the Astrodome go back to old
ballparks and play a series in these ballparks like the
old school UH leagues did and baseball back in the day.
I want to know where where you know where Ted
Williams hit his ball at the Polo Grounds or an
old ballpark. I just those things are kind of cool.
And when you see a Hank Aaron tribute and it's
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in the South and it's in Atlanta, it makes you
think about, you know, the old launching pad in Atlanta
Fulton County Stadium. Just a lot of cool stuff and
if you love it, and hardball is a historian of
a lot of sports and he loves it too, just
the intrigue and the history of it. Be nice to
sit down if you could bring them all back to life,
to Ted Williams and Henry Aaron's and those guys and
talk about those round tables I always talk about having.
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Wouldn't be cool to be able to have a you know,
the hologram where you're sitting there and interviewing. I mean,
you could anticipate what their answer would be or bring
them back. If we could just have another hour with
them to two hours to sit down and talk hitting
with Williams and overall what Hank Aaron went through, just
how it applies to now, it'd be really cool. I
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love the history of baseball and I love the history
of our of what our players went through to get here.
And you know, I was thinking, look at it, Bob
Gibson in his season, like was it sixty eight or something,
he had like twenty five. He had twenty five complete
games that year. That year, not in his career. That
season he had twenty five complete games. So I'm just like,
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I wish we could get that roundtable with people that
have passed away. I wish we con go back and
redo it. I wish somebody would have get ten of
the best players in the world around and talk for
three hours and roll camera and imagine if you could
have that in the in the archives, how coould that be?
Speaker 13 (39:11):
So?
Speaker 9 (39:11):
Yeah, I love tributes to the old school leagues and
old school players. I think it's important history of its
fam If you know, you can't be an expert, if
you don't know the history, you just can't.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
You almost no, you just can't.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
I'm not any of us.
Speaker 9 (39:25):
In order to be something where you can talk, you've
got to understand the history. You can't just be a
baseball person that start at two thousand and say, you know,
even if you were born in two thousand, you want
to be the guys soon the Tim Kirkchins of the world.
You got to go back and watch and study what
you can. So it's pretty impressive.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
I love it.
Speaker 8 (39:42):
You almost wonder if one day AI is can he
get so good that we're gonna have like a pr handler. Hey,
do you guys want to talk to you know, bebe
Ruth's Ai, And do you want to talk with you know,
Bob Gibson's Ai.
Speaker 9 (39:55):
Yeah, if I could get the same answers, even though
I would if we got the capability to do that
and you could anticipate an answer when you ask Hank Aaron,
what was it like to play baseball when you had
to go through that? Or Jackie Robinson absolutely absolutely, Babe Ruth,
what if you'd have been in great shape? What would
it have been different? Would you do over you? Would
you pitch instead of hit? You know, all the things
that you'd want to ask him? And who was a
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tough I want to know from Bob Gibson, who was
the toughest guy he ever faced. I want to know
from Willie Mays if he thinks he was the best
player of all time all those things, and who was
the toughest he played. I felt like there was a
great camaraderie too with the old school players. I did,
but they also knew the competition. They would really they
competed and want to beat your brains in, but they
also went out and had a beer after. I just
wonder how many opponents are doing that in pro sports.
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The camaraderie. I know you have it with your own team,
but you know you are you really enjoying because it
goes fast.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
Man he goes fan.
Speaker 9 (40:47):
Some of those guys you saw last night may never
be in another All Star Game some of them.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
It's just the fact. And we got to enjoy.
Speaker 9 (40:53):
Clayton Kershall for his last All Star Game, you know,
unless something changes and he decides not to.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
But what an incredible career for him as well.
Speaker 8 (41:01):
Yeah, that that pretty much the little send off that
Dave Roberts game right there. That that's toes move. Yeah, yeah,
that's that's gonna be it for Clayton Kershaw. This is
it like this is the final year. So no, it
was a fun night all the way around.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Me and Gord. You're in the building for it, and we'll.
Speaker 8 (41:16):
Talk a little bit more about that as the show
goes along this morning. Don't forget too, got a lot
of guests coming your way here on the show today.
Here in about forty five minutes, Drew Fabianich from the
Senior Bowl, the new director of that game, going to
join us at.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Seven forty five.
Speaker 8 (41:32):
SEC Commissioner Greg Sankei at eight twenty, and then Kirby
Smart dropping by the table yesterday. We will talk to
him and hear from him at nine fifteen.
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It will be All Star game, ends in a homer
off National League for three winners over the American League.
Sauce Gardner, according to reports, now the highest paid cornerback
in the NFL four years, a little over one hundred
and twenty million dollar contract coming his way in Round
one of the Open Championship starts tomorrow morning from Royal Port,
Rush there in Northern Ireland. But seven one three two
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seven one three two one two five seven ninety and Sean,
you know obviously with me and Gordy who Gordy will
hop back on with us again tomorrow morning. Being in
the building last night for the All Star Game. We're
here at the College Football Hall of Fame for SEC
Media Days, and do apologize for you know, we're talking
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about AI in the last segment in technology deciding that
it was on a union job and it needed it's
fifteen minutes to be able to take a break. So
as I was throwing to break a couple of segments ago,
that's when the Internet decided to say, yeah, hey guys,
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I'm gonna go for some coffee really quick.
Speaker 9 (43:37):
Yeah, well, take your time to do it. And sometimes
technology can work in your favor. It's a coffee and
restroom break. We had going right to break. We had
it handled all good here, man. That's where that's when
two people are apart. That's what happens when you have
a studio. Sometimes it happens here. We just got to adjust.
So how you adapt and adjust, which you did at
the Hall of Fame, good thing.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
That's that's it.
Speaker 8 (43:56):
You know, Hey, just be a good teammate, Sean. You
definitely you prove that you're a great teammate. So I
do appreciate that very much. But last night, though, is
mentioned me and Gordy being at the game and we
did get to see history. I mean, we weren't there
in person for the homer off, but we were there
as the kind of where were you when this happened
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for the very first ABS challenge in a game, And
that was something leading up to this game that was
talked about. They were going to try it out in
the All Star Game see how it works, and Trek
Scouble against Manny Machada was the first one to tap
the top of his head, or actually I think first
it was cal Raley that did it, and then Schoolbale
was like, yeah, I check that out, and Sean it
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was all of like twenty seconds for them to check
it out.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
It's kind of like tennis, is it enter it out?
Speaker 8 (44:45):
And you know they show the ball either you know,
hitting the line, going around the line, whatever it might be.
And in this case right here, it was incredibly quick,
incredibly efficient.
Speaker 14 (44:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:56):
I don't like.
Speaker 9 (44:58):
All the time it takes to get the I mean,
we take a headset as sooner we especially with balls
and strikes.
Speaker 6 (45:03):
I like to get it right.
Speaker 9 (45:04):
But I also I do think we're fallible in sports,
and sometimes it's like okay, it's here, we have human
air everything. People miss shots, the players miss them, the
you know, the referee misses them, the umpire misses them,
and so that's just part of baseball was pretty good
when we didn't have replay. And baseball was pretty good
when we you know, when the bases were normal, when
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it was well baseball, like we all played it growing up.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
It was, it was pretty good.
Speaker 9 (45:29):
And I don't know why there wasn't a lot of
changes needed, if you want my opinion, I mean, upgrading
facilities and all that.
Speaker 6 (45:35):
But the way it was was, you.
Speaker 9 (45:36):
Know, ninety feet sixty feet six inches on the mound
and let's play some baseball and get after it. But
as you go along, you got to make adjustments and adapt,
as we just said. So I don't mind changes as
long as the gimmicks aren't. You know, playing flag football
at a tackle football team, it's to me, it's like, okay,
you can do that at your fraternity league in the
offseason or when you retire. But with this, I I
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never knew if I'd like it or not. And man,
you want to listen to somebody kiss and ask to
be almost as a begging begging for a Hall of
Fame invite. Alex Rodriguez is pandering and asked kissing of
Rob Manford in his video about the strikes and pre
gallon fox or whatever. You know, he was being interviewed
by I can't remember who was interviewing him before, but
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it showed him be an interviewed from his hotel room.
Maybe he was on MLB earlier or Foxer, I don't remember.
But I love Rob Manford. And he told us how
much he loved Rob Manford, and he said Rob Manford
should be in the Hall of Fame. I mean he
started rolling and by the time he got to his
point about the electronics strike zone and he was anxious
to see it, he had slobbered all over Rob Manford
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all over the place and everybody in the world knows why. Okay,
he was like and Rob Manford did some good things
last night. He's had some rough times too as the commissioner,
as we all know. So I'm not ready to put
him in the Hall of Fame just yet. But man alive.
You want to talk about panned, pandering, pandering, but I digress.
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But you want to talk about the greatest ass kiss
job in the world. A Rod executed that yesterday before
the game. But the point of hopefully what he was
trying to get to instead of brown nosing Rob Manford
because he had pressure to do this. It was that
we'll see if it works, and you know what, it
got it right. Every time he went to it. You
could even see just how much it brushed on certain pitches.
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I liked that it came back urgently. And I normally,
you know, don't like change to baseball.
Speaker 6 (47:30):
That's just me.
Speaker 9 (47:31):
Other sports I get, I just don't. But with this,
I didn't know if I was in on it. I
am in on it because there was not one time
I said what are they waiting on? I mean it
was it was instantaneous and you went on and they
got it right. So if we're looking for it right,
this is pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Now.
Speaker 9 (47:46):
I'd asked you last week about, okay, is it more
advantage for the pitcher or more advantage for the hitter?
Speaker 6 (47:51):
And in truth that it works.
Speaker 9 (47:53):
Both ways, because if you're the hitter, like the one
that Aros the rain is struck out on, he would
have got that. I mean the call was his. I mean,
you're looking at another pitch and who knows how the
base hit or a home run ends up. So yeah, man,
I really liked it, and I, uh, I didn't. I
didn't know if I would. I don't see how you
can't use it moving forward. They got it right, and
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it was urgent, and you know, you got to be
prepared for technology to blow out on you in a
game or what have you. But yeah, I had no
problem with it. And uh and by the way, just
so in case you know, A Rod likes loves Rob Manford,
A Rod absolutely loves Rob Manford. All right, if you're
not putting Clemmens and Bonds in, does a Rod? What
does he belong in?
Speaker 1 (48:35):
I mean over those two now I'm.
Speaker 9 (48:36):
Talking about over No, no, forget, I'm not even talking
about over. I'm talking about what. Didn't a Rod get
caught more than once? Chance to cheating? Yeah, he got
caught white, That's exactly right. And that was a rhetorical question.
So and as much I respect his game, I mean,
the guy was a great player without it, or maybe
he wasn't gonna be. I don't know when it kicked
in for him, the steroids. I don't even remember when
he said he started or what. But so so guys
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admitted it twice, So we're gonna I mean, how how
do you vote him in if the other If Bonds
isn't in, how's he in? If he gets in? How
if you put one? If you put him in, they
have to get in, do they not?
Speaker 18 (49:14):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Easily? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (49:15):
So I mean, I mean, aside from the steroids stuff,
and at least either you know what was proven what
was not With the other two guys, I mean, their
whole thing is is I mean, for Clemens, let's just
call it what it is. He's thought of as being
incredibly disingenuous and I'm just kind of a jerk, and
Bonds is just kind of a jerk. So again, so
you an ass kiss or We're not going to get
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you in for the way you played on the field.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
I mean it helps unfortunately.
Speaker 9 (49:41):
And that's but guess what if you're a voter and
you just don't like Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds, Let's
take all three and put him in. Oh, they like
a Rod because he's a little more media savvy or
and he is still on TV.
Speaker 6 (49:54):
People can read through it.
Speaker 9 (49:55):
You know, when a guy comes up to you and
is kissing your ass, we know that he we're talking
about disingenuous.
Speaker 6 (50:01):
What's that it.
Speaker 8 (50:02):
Worked for David Ortiz, Yes, and and but they well
quickly forgot about him.
Speaker 6 (50:06):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 9 (50:06):
But you think about it, we know when the guy's
you know, kiss an ass and to the point of, dude,
have some dignity about yourself. But you're not supposed to
vote for the Hall of Fame based on if a
guy snubbed you for an interview or was an ass
to you, or was a prick. Okay, Now, regardless how
you feel about the steroids, talk about bonds and clements,
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you can't get there. You can't discard those two because
there are pricks or in people's opinion or you know,
went about their business a little more abrasive than than
a rod did you Just you can't. That's not how
you're supposed to vote. It's not personal. You gotta you
get now. The personal part is of you just steroids
and that you say no, not clemens op bots. But
your final decisions can't be Yeah, you know what if
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we're gonna put a rod in, but I'm not puttinghim
in because the the bonds, because well I didn't like
it when he snubbed me for an interview. It was
just a prick. Tars At that they at the post
game press conference. That's that's not how this was meant.
So whether you decide they're in or not, if you
do put a Rod in, you cannot not put those
two guys in. If that I if you can go
a double negative, you just can't. You can't because, uh,
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when you got a panda and kiss the commissioners asked
to have a break, There's no way because if you
open up that floodgate, I can name a bunch of
cats that are going to get in. Manny Ramirez Ortiz,
like you said, is already Clemens Bonds. So man a
line you want to talk about a brown nosing, go
go watch it. I mean, and you'll you'll know that.
I mean, damn well, a Rod was a great player.
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There's there's no way if and you don't go ahead
and pander. I'm sure if your Bonds and Clemens and
the rest of you you're like, yes, please do because
once you get in, or if he does, then that
can of worms has got to be opened up for
us to get in. So but you know, it's it's
a bit. And he stays in the media. That's another thing.
Bonds and and Bonds is a little bit, but Bonds
and Clemens are a little more you know, uh, you know,
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brooding behind the seat. They just need You don't get
much of them, right. They're kind of a little more
distant than a Who's I mean, if there's a camera around,
a Rodd'll sprint to it, make no on a microphone
and no doubt about it. And now he's an owner
of the Minnesota Timberwolves in this and he's on TV,
so yeah it uh uh, I know, we digress. But
since we're talking baseball and Hall of Fames and all that,
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and with Dave Parker and Dick Allen getting in, Yeah,
if you're putting a Rod in because he's because he's
he's good at the PR game, then you better be
prepared for the rest of them. You can't vote one
and not vote the other. I guess you can, but
it would be wrong if you're voting on personality and
not on performance.
Speaker 8 (52:32):
I would say that if you were going to put
together an all time disingenuous team, a Rod would.
Speaker 9 (52:36):
Probably Yeah, if you're telling me that, Clemens, if you
if and you know, I lo he was my favorite
pitcher in Randy from Johnson because I was a classmate
of mine, but at the in my age group, right,
I love and Clemens was once he got seven signs dominant.
So whether you like Rogers approach and Bond's approach, that's
one thing. And if you call them disingenuous or arrogant
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or what have you, please don't tell me as disingenuous
or as oh my gosh, eye rolling. As good as
he is, and I'm sure he's a good guy, but
his eye rolling, as there is in sports, when it
comes to it, that's one of those guys. I guarantee
you of players that even played with him and stuff
kind of roll their eyes and when they watch that
are like, yeah, okay, what a shock. Yes to me,
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as there's a lot of phony to him there just is.
There's a ton of phony to him. Great player, sure,
a good guy, a good dad all. I'm sure he is.
But when it comes to a lot of this stuff,
I don't think a Rod believes about a third of
the things he says did even if you put him
in there, I'm sure behind that. Rob Manford, they talk
about pining for a Hall of Fame spot even though
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he doesn't get to control that.
Speaker 6 (53:43):
The voters do.
Speaker 9 (53:44):
But man having the commissioner on your side telling him
how grady is that he belongs in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6 (53:48):
What a shock.
Speaker 9 (53:49):
Maybe you guys will go in together. So yeah, that
kind of stuff just chaps my ass because you know,
the pandering is out there begging for that shot because
he doesn't even believe that, Okay, but he will public
that's for sure. Yeah, disingenuous is at the top of
that list.
Speaker 8 (54:03):
I And you know another thing for a Rod A
good piece of advice lay off the spray tan.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
You don't need much more of it. I remember once you.
Speaker 8 (54:10):
Mentioned it with him at the Timberwolves they were interviewing him.
I guess they had an earpiece in for him when
he was court sided at Timberwolves game.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
And I mean he seriously looked like a cheeto.
Speaker 9 (54:22):
Listen, man, if a Rod was on vacation out of
the country and he could find an interview to do
and a camera that somebody'd say, oh yeah, heck, I'll
do it. I'm on vacation out on a yacht. Let
me get off, Tony Demy, disrupt my vacation and do
an hour interview for you and will come in so
everybody else has to wait. Yeah, that's him so and
like I said, I respect his game, but I mean
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it's almost to the point where you're like, okay, dude,
yeah enough, okay enough. So maybe sometimes it's better to
have two ears in one mouth and use them accordingly.
But hey, if you get in and you sold yourself enough,
it in't pr and marketing yourself what it's all about.
If he can pull this one off, then he'll open
up a can of worms for the rest of the
guys who also belong in, like a Manny Ramirez, like
a Roger Clemens, like a Barry Bonds, and a Pete
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Rose for different reasons there.
Speaker 8 (55:12):
Wow, I mean, far be it from me to criticize
as a guy who constantly overloads his mouth with his
ass all the time.
Speaker 9 (55:18):
Well, you can criticize it. They can criticize you too,
we can. But you know what, it's okay, I got
plenty of weaknesses and they've been pointed out by me
and plenty of others. But you know what, our job
is to point him out too. I think he's a
disingenuous ass kischen when it comes to Rob Manford and
a hell of a player, and you can have both,
so good luck with that.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
Now for sure. So hey Rod, you continue to be you, buddy?
All right? Speaking of continuing to be you, one.
Speaker 8 (55:42):
Guy who was part of a viral fight, he speaks.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
We'll talk about it.
Speaker 14 (55:47):
Right here.
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All Star Game last night goes to Homers, the National
League with four of them and the American League with three.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
So the National League wins the All Star Game.
Speaker 8 (56:37):
Sauce Gardner now of the highest paid corner in the NFL,
according to reports, four years little over one.
Speaker 1 (56:42):
Hundred and twenty million.
Speaker 8 (56:44):
Round one the Open Championship starts tomorrow morning from Royal Port,
Rush there in Northern Ireland. Sean, remember a couple of
weeks ago, or maybe it was even last week, it
was pretty recent we talked about former hockey player Nick Tarnawski,
who was a goon when he played in the NHL.
He was a guy that was willing to scrap, he
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was willing to throw down. Well, he was part of
that viral golf course fight where the guy you know
clenches his fists both at you know, one at each side,
and charges at him and.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
He threw him into the lake. Well earlier this week.
Speaker 8 (57:18):
It was in fact, over the weekend, the guy who
was on the receiving ing, the receiving end of being
thrown into the lake and also of those punches, he
took to social media. We don't have the audio, but
he took the social media to apologize for his end
of it and explain himself a little bit. Said, yeah,
got a little carried away. You know, the booze was
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flowing everything else, and he was having a good time.
And then you know, he decided that he was going
to write a cat. He was going to try to
write a check, and it was obviously one of those
oversized ones, you know, like somebody wins a contest. You
get the picture of the little gripp and grin right
there holding the check when he tried to write that,
and Nick Tarnaski said no, not today. Well, Tarnaski was
on on it Spitting Chicklets Barstool Hockey podcast talking about
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his side of it, and he was asked about throwing
the guy into the lake, and I love his response.
I mean, the lake was close enough as basically as
to say, yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 1 (58:15):
Lake right there.
Speaker 8 (58:16):
I wanted to throw him in it as kind of
a point of humiliation, but also too of just saying no,
there's no way this guy's gonna come out of the
lake and you know, try to fight me after that.
Speaker 1 (58:27):
Oh but he did.
Speaker 8 (58:28):
And then that's, of course when we got the famous
bang bang bang of him throwing the punches at the
guy while grabbing him like he was grabbing a hockey
sweater to start way, to start waylaying on him.
Speaker 9 (58:40):
Yeah, I but and well it's close by, and throw
him in a good thing. Up in Canada, they don't.
I don't think they have gators, do they? At least
that that golf course. I wouldn't think, because I was
probably you probably wouldn't have that down in Florida, Okay
or Louisiana, you probably because then you might get in trouble.
Speaker 6 (58:57):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it. Well, yeah, right by
my house.
Speaker 9 (59:00):
Then alligator was walking across the car of the path
where everybody big old walking across the path where everybody
walks their animals and goes on walks at night in
the green belt. Yeah, I mean right across it and
right back into the the to the to the little
uh pond there it happened.
Speaker 6 (59:14):
You had no doubt so.
Speaker 9 (59:15):
But I'll tell you what, who of us hasn't done
something stupid, drank a little too much, said something stupid
while you're drinking. Uh maybe on the golf course, a
fistfight seems a little out of hand. Normally I'm cussing
at myself on a bad golf shot, not on somebody
else because they're saying, could you speed it up? Because
you know when you're playing slow. But the apology I
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did see the video was good enough for me. I
people make mistakes. The guy got humiliated on on Nash
a viral video that got humiliated, and we all laughed
at him and said, uh, bit off a little more
than he could chew the understatement. But then again, instead
of fight back and say I'm gonna sue the guy
for coming in, he just admitted he drank too much,
(59:56):
made a mistake, got a little over zealous and uh
and and apologized. Listen, I'd rather have that than a
guy that started to fight back, and oh yeah, we
get a great beef going on between these two verbally,
and it's all over. I can get Robert Griffin and
Ryan Clark anytime. Those two fight with each other every
single day, which is a mind numbing and ridiculous because
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it's just it'll happen next week. So if you want
to do that and bore yourself to death, you can
watch those two on viral videos. It's almost like those
two were married twenty years ago. And I don't mean
because a guy guy guy girl. I'm just talking about
hyperbolic is like, man, what do you guys still you?
Would you guys do or did you guys date the
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same girl when you were in college? Why the constant battles,
But they go back and forth regularly, so they bore me.
But what doesn't bore me is when a guy admits
a mistaken I can handle that. I would imagine sober
the guy would have thought twice it was like, you
know what, this guy's a little too big for me.
I'm not taking this on probably would have played faster
and probably wouldn't have been over zealous with this verbiage
when somebody said, could you pick up the tempo? So
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an apology is good enough for me. No harm, no foul.
He got embarrassed, it's gonna be he's gonna have to
live with that his whole life on that video, and
it's always going to be a gift that people go
back to, and that's part and parcel.
Speaker 6 (01:01:13):
Embrace it.
Speaker 9 (01:01:14):
Man, you made a mistake, got your ass handed to you,
and then come on and apologize, and you know what
the truth of the matter is. I think you could.
It would be a blast for those two. Heck, you
invite Grant Horvat to mister YouTube golf guy and go
out and tape it and have some fun, have a
match and play some golf and apologize and have some
laughs and turn it into a you know what, we
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screwed up.
Speaker 6 (01:01:36):
But you can still put.
Speaker 9 (01:01:36):
Your arm around each other after an ass open like
two goons in hockey and go out and have a
beer together. I mean, maybe that's a little much, but
they both live in Canda obviously play at the same
golf course, so it sure seems like it wouldn't take
much for those two to actually or somebody get him
both on. Hell, I'd love to get him both on
my shows, get him both on and say, hey, man, way,
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what do you guys think of that? Right, and kind
of go through a boxing match and a laugh and
turn it into Okay, you learned your lesson.
Speaker 6 (01:02:02):
Move on.
Speaker 9 (01:02:03):
I'm good when somebody gives me an apology, I don't.
I don't have to bury them man that he took
enough flack and got his ass kick, And to me,
the apology is good enough for me. And I think
having them both on the same interview would be pretty
It would be pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
I do.
Speaker 9 (01:02:17):
I'd love it. May in fact, that's not a bad idea.
Triplely remind me of that for for for a gig.
Speaker 6 (01:02:23):
So I do.
Speaker 9 (01:02:24):
I think it's really cool that he apologized and he listened,
and by we don't need to beat him down.
Speaker 6 (01:02:29):
He already got beat down enough, so there you go.
I'd love it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
See.
Speaker 8 (01:02:33):
And that's the one thing too, is that the video
was grainy enough that the guy who got beaten down
he probably could have just gone under the radar and
nobody would have known who he was. But now that
he did the apology video, Like, as soon as you
see the guy, you're gonna remember that selfie video of
him apologizing, and it's gonna be like, Oh, you're the
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guy you got thrown in the lake. You're the guy
who got thrown over the cart path, right, you're that guy.
Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Yeah, but you know what he could have He could
have skated by.
Speaker 9 (01:03:05):
Yeah, but he didn't. And that tells me that there's
some accountability. You could have skated by, and so let
me just let this go. He could have skated by.
It tells me accountability. What oh I'm worried about. Hey, listen,
enough people saw the ass whooping. Whether it comes out
in twenty years or not, you know, there'll be another
one that we laugh at.
Speaker 6 (01:03:20):
I love it because why just embrace it?
Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Man?
Speaker 9 (01:03:23):
It happens. How many times have we met somebody that
drinks too much? You invite him over or you're having
a bit, you meet it and you're like, dude, you
were slurn. You blacked out last night, you idiot and
almost got your ass kicked in the bar. And then
you wake up the next day and the guy takes
you to breakfast, saying, man, I can't believe that I
need today or as dehydrate, and you go out and
find out he's not a bad guy. Now, I don't
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know what kind of guy this dude is, but anytime
somebody steps up and owns it, I'll take. I'll take.
I'll give him far more credit than if you went
and hid and say, man, I hope it doesn't go viral. Yeah,
that guy, you didn't need to hit me that many times.
He's the one who started making all these excuses. Take
your ass whooping to get do we accept your apology
and move on. I don't have one ounce of problem
with it. And if he's smart, he embraces it and
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starts doing some in controversy.
Speaker 6 (01:04:08):
Embrace it. If you want to make money off it.
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
He could.
Speaker 9 (01:04:11):
There's a way, I don't know how, somebody brilliant jump
on it and grab a commercial and you know where
you're talking about. Well, hey, man, if you're going to
buy this kind of whatever it is, it could work.
Speaker 14 (01:04:21):
You know.
Speaker 9 (01:04:22):
To me, the apology is good enough for me. I
don't have problem with it because he was embarrassed enough.
Uh don't need to kick him in a rib cage
when he's gonna have to wake up to it. Every
day and wonder what viral video is going to come out?
When is it going to come out again? After a
gift that I'm the gift, all right, So I don't
have a problem with it. I like his apology and
good on him.
Speaker 8 (01:04:40):
Well, the follow up is going to be is somebody
at a bar is going to try him now, you know,
because they're gonna think there's there's blood in the water.
You know, this guy is for the taking and that's
his redemption is he beats the hell out of that guy,
then it's a hey, you know what, I really am
nothing to be, you know, messed with here a pro
hockey player is just the one who beat me up
the last time.
Speaker 14 (01:04:59):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
But you know you want these hands and I'm open
for business.
Speaker 9 (01:05:02):
And you know what, somebody also may say, you know what,
I'm gonna go challenging because they're you know, do you
know how that goes? So for me, I I an
apology is good enough for me, and I'm actually glad
he did it. And you know that's a little humble
pile get you to do some crazy things, and sometimes
it'll get.
Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
You to make excuses. He didn't have an excuse.
Speaker 9 (01:05:20):
He drank too much and then talked too much, and
then took an ass kick, and so he got the trifecta,
and then he apologized. Should be good enough for anybody,
including the guy who beat him down.
Speaker 8 (01:05:29):
You got enough, man, Yeah, that's true. That's true, Craig,
And everybody will tell you as much. Well, at least
Craig was the one who delivered it at that time.
Speaking of embarrassing moments, one for a local rivalry that
took things to the next level yesterday, will let you hear.
Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
That right here.
Speaker 8 (01:05:48):
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Sports Talk seven ninety. The seven o'clock hour, seven ninety
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But Sean, real quick, we are here at SEC Media
Days and Theater of the Mind on radio right, try
(01:06:09):
to describe how things are well where me and Gordy are.
We are with our backs turned to the indoor football
field that they have here about thirty yards wide here
at the College Football Hall of Fame, and that is
where they have the main press conference room. Well, this week,
every single coach that goes to the podium Commissioner Greg Sanki,
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who we're going to talk with here in about thirty minutes.
Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
He will introduce them.
Speaker 8 (01:06:35):
And as they're introduced, they are taking the stage to
their school's fight song. So yesterday was Texas's Day and
tomorrow is going to be A and M's Day. And
Steve Sarkisian gets the introduction from Greg Sanki, and this
is what transpired.
Speaker 5 (01:06:54):
So Steve Sarkisian, that's.
Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Not Texas fine a.
Speaker 6 (01:07:14):
Welcome, it's always.
Speaker 8 (01:07:17):
Let's go and Steve. And Steve just rolls right through
the stops on right there. But didn't we get did
we get to hear him?
Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (01:07:25):
Well wait a second, Well why aren't we hearing the
rest of what he said?
Speaker 18 (01:07:30):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (01:07:30):
I mean, he just he didn't even say anything about it.
He just went right into his opening monologue. That was
the clip that I found that I was able to.
Speaker 6 (01:07:37):
Okay, so we didn't hear it, we hear what he said.
We just know that.
Speaker 8 (01:07:40):
He he didn't even acknowledge it. Yeah, he just went
right through and did anybody let me tell you about
my apologize? I had not seen anything. I mean, you know,
I know that arch Manning had a huge gaggle around
him yesterday. So I don't know if anybody asked him
about it, but as far as I know, I think Sarky,
you know, it's kind of like one of those like
even in our business, if you make a snaff foo,
(01:08:01):
you know what the rule is, right, you just keep
going because that way, if you don't make light of it,
then probably nobody knows about it. So maybe that's the
tact that Steve took right there, of just saying, don't
even acknowledge it, just keep going. But that's one of
those two of whoever the audio visual guy is here where,
they probably just looked. They probably have an iPad in
front of them or something that they hit a hot
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key kind of like triple he does to fire off,
you know, drops or anything else. And you probably saw
tex right there and thought, oh, yeah, hey, this is
this is the Longhorns.
Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
It was not. It was the Aggi war him.
Speaker 8 (01:08:36):
And that was the one thing though that I would
have liked for sark to jump up there and say.
Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Yeah, that's not Texas fire.
Speaker 8 (01:08:41):
We like our fight song a little bit better, but
the Aggie Warham playing.
Speaker 9 (01:08:46):
So now with this rivalry, there's so many lines. Yeah,
there's so many lines. It would have been like if
I was the coach and I was at USC, they'd
have played UCLA or Notre Dames fight song when you
walk up there on AXA, you know, well it wouldn't
be Notre Dame, but same a team in your in
your and your your rival. I would have There'd have
been so many different ways you could have attacked that
(01:09:08):
and and made light of it or right, yes, you
could have yeah, yeah, you could have done. You could
have gone. You could have gone and and made some
snide remarks. You could have laughed about star candled it.
Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Right.
Speaker 9 (01:09:27):
But man, there's so many ways you could have got
a good dig it. But you know what, just file
it away, File it away because somebody pushed the wrong button.
And uh, I can't wait to see that response. And
you know, and there's a lot of stuff going around
and I love it just because I love the banter
is with Sarkisi and his yesterday said Texas wants players
who are coming for the school and the culture versus
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the money now and they got one of the big
nils and we know that they're they're involved in it,
and as is everybody. But I know that that's and everybody,
I think you'd like somebody to come because a loyalty
does a school, they want to be there, there's a
passion for it. And then you go through all of it,
and then the money is brought up last, and I
think that that's ambitious because I think we all want that.
I love where Sark's going with that. But then you
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see the video people are doing it. We don't talk
about nil or revenue, share of publicity rights until the
very end meeting. At the end of I'm sure they're
recruiting conversation with that player. And then here's Sark greeting
results recruits as they show up to the Texas facility
and there's Lambos or there's Lambos about five of them
sitting outside the facility and people are laughing. It's like,
(01:10:31):
oh yeah, no nil, no gifts there. But by the way,
how's that Lambeou dealership? It just makes for good banter
and I love it. But Sark did say until the end.
He didn't so we don't talk about it, he said
until the end, meaning we're selling our schools, selling the culture,
selling why you need to come to Texas, which I like.
But it just makes for continuous You know, hey, listen,
people have receipts all the time, and you know lambos
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or ferraris sit outside the facility. That will get people
to post that like crazy, So it makes for fun.
You find out a lot of good stuff at meetings
like the SEC Media Days and the rest of it.
Speaker 6 (01:11:03):
So football's right around the corner.
Speaker 9 (01:11:04):
And if that opening Gay Day, then opening games not
opening gay opening games and day. When you say games
and day at the same time, it comes out gay, okay, happy?
Right is Look at the schedule on the with Texas
and Ohio State. Look at the schedule through that day,
Take a look at the matchups through that day and
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and if you got anything planned for about all the
way to the UCLA. Let's see UCLA is playing who
are they opening against? Which is a really good game
as well the late one. You go down to schedule
and there's there's four football games that if you're not
in front of your TV all day and you know
when that when that game kicks in from arch manning
(01:11:45):
at the beginning all the way till the end, you're
missing out because that schedule is off the charts for
an early season's matchup.
Speaker 6 (01:11:52):
And I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 9 (01:11:53):
So and Texas by all accounts is a top two
team going into the country and that'll be a great
way to start your day when those things kick in,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
All right.
Speaker 8 (01:12:03):
So we'll leave that there for now, but we'll pick
it back up talking with the new Senior Bowl director
of the new director of the Senior Bowl, Drew Fabianich,
gonna join us here in just a couple of minutes
as we continue here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues.
Speaker 8 (01:12:23):
He is Drew Fabianitch, and Drew has been all over
the place eighteen years with the Cowboys before the Senior Bowl.
Your last stop was GM at West Virginia, correct, all right,
and now you take over the job with Jim Naggy
moving on and going into college. So kind of crossing paths,
like was it almost kind of like, you know, you're
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going into the office. He say, you know, here's this,
here's that. I'm gonna go do what you've been doing.
Now you get to do what I've been doing.
Speaker 19 (01:12:50):
I warned him about certain things and he was all
in on it. I mean, I think you know, once
you made a decision to you know, to move on
to a different job. I think you kind of put
your eyes, you know, and blinders on and just roll
with it, you know. I asked him some of the
things that I needed to understand and know about the job,
because it's not just about picking the players. I mean,
it's a it's a civic, community based, you know game
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that the Senior Bowl charities are involved in a lot
of different things down there, and we got functions and
events going on almost every single month throughout the year,
and they're quite involved with high school sports, uh, with
community incentives. And now it's you said the Senior Bowl. Yes,
it's the Panini Senior Bowl now. And Panini the trading
card company has jumped in as our title sponsor, which
(01:13:35):
I think is fantastic because I like the idea of
having a sports company involved in a an a football game.
Speaker 6 (01:13:42):
D what was the biggest race I don't mean to interrupted,
I'm sorry, No, that's okay.
Speaker 9 (01:13:46):
What was the biggest piece of advice? Because you've been
involved in running programs and being a part of that
the decisions and the planning that goes into but what
was the biggest piece of advice Jim gave you for
this job, try.
Speaker 19 (01:14:01):
To be patient with the agents and try to be
more of an educator than talking to them and talking
at them, because I think that they're an incredible piece
that you have to actually sell for their clients to
actually understand the value of the game. And Sean, I
mean the perfect example to me was, you know, I
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mean with the Cowboys was DeMarcus Ware. I mean, we
were sold as soon as he stood up and you know,
got in a wide nine and went off to right,
went off in a two point right, and part Silas
is sitting there going, Okay, I'm good, you know. And
you know last year when the Zabel kid came from
North Dakota State and the league had him as a
high three and he ends up going eighteen. Well, if
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you look at the four year contract, that's twelve point
seven million dollars a difference. And if agents and players
don't understand the value that they could gain by playing
in the premiere All Star game, you know in the country, well,
I'm not a good I'm not a very good salesman,
you know what I mean. So that's kind of Jim's
you know, main advice was make sure you sell the agent.
(01:15:04):
Make sure you sell the player, but I'm also going
to have a lot of backups just in case. You know, again,
we're gonna have a vertical board that hey, if one goes,
we got to be ready to have the other one coming.
And I'm also going to tell agents that I kind
of know are playing it playing me that we need
to not come to the game or play it all
the way to the three days before and then back out.
(01:15:27):
I'd rather have somebody I know it's going to be
down there for practicing games, just you know, tell me
they're coming. Does that makes sense perfect? Sure, Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 8 (01:15:36):
And Drew Fabian is new director of the Senior Bowl
and he's joined us here at SEC media Days and
you know, talked about it too. I mean your time
with the Cowboys eighteen years and you obviously went to
this event quite a bit of being in the scouting
department there. What did you think you knew about this
job before you took it and what did you only
(01:15:58):
learn once you took it.
Speaker 19 (01:16:00):
I thought it was just about the game. I did
not know that the Senior Bowl Charities is involved in
so many you know, civic minded pieces, whether it's you know,
donating you know, five thousand dollars to each high school,
you know, for equipment each year, you know, doing a
leadership conference in July with mobile, I mean Mobile in
Baldwin County. The Hall of Fame, you know, Senior Bowl
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Hall of Fame, the charity golf tournament, the draft party,
the kickoff party, the weak function that go on that
again I never saw because I always left on a Thursday. Well,
there's a huge concert in one of the squares, you know,
on Friday night after the Marty Grass Parade for the players.
I didn't know about all these pieces until I actually
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went down and interviewed for the job. I was going
to like, okay, I can you know, I can handle
picking the players and dealing with the agents and you know,
doing all this, and then all of a sudden, now
I'm you know, on every single radio station, every single
TV spot, you know, going national. You know, I'm the
face of it. But it's also about the Senior Bowl charities.
And I thought it was just about the game. I
had no idea and being down there for eighteen years straight,
(01:17:08):
you know, Like I told my wife, she was like, oh,
you never went to this place. I was like, hun,
I was like, I never had time, right, it was like,
I'm always going to practice, going to lunch real quick,
going to practice, going to interviews every single night. And
by the time I got done with interviews, I was like,
I'm good, I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 6 (01:17:23):
I'm going.
Speaker 19 (01:17:24):
I'm gonna kick it out, I'm gonna go to sleep,
I'm gonna be ready for the next morning. And so
you know, again, I'm trying to change some things that
make it more player friendly, make it more personnel friendly
and coach friendly, because Sean, you'll remember that this used
to be the because Senior Bowl used to be kind
of the unofficial NFL Coaches convention exactly what it was, yep.
Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
And when they started.
Speaker 19 (01:17:45):
Doing the formal interviews at night, those coaches didn't want
to come anymore because they couldn't network with their boys,
they couldn't hang out, they couldn't you know, look for
jobs and everything else. Well, that's one change I am making.
The Monday night's gonna be the only night that they'll
actually interview, and all the interviews will be in the morning,
and then all the evenings will be free for the coaches,
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the players, right, and the personnel people.
Speaker 6 (01:18:08):
You're making it, do it for everybody to win this.
Speaker 19 (01:18:11):
Yeah, yes, and you know, and the thing is, is
it again, I want it to be a pleasurable experience
more so for the players, right because when I did
those interviews from seven to ten every night, I mean
I was so beat down by the end.
Speaker 6 (01:18:24):
I was like, this got to be baster I hated
football by the end of the week, right, yeah, And
you can and I can't imagine what those guys thought.
Speaker 19 (01:18:32):
They were going like, Okay, I just got to ask
the same question twenty eight times in the last you know,
three hours. You know, why do I got to keep
doing this?
Speaker 14 (01:18:39):
Right?
Speaker 19 (01:18:40):
You know, well, you know again, I want to make
it pleasurable. So they're going to be the ambassadors back
at campus for me, you know, for the next you know,
four or five years when they go back to work
the strength coach or go back over the summer and
they say, hey, you know, if you get an invite,
it's big, it's enormous, it's it's it's huge, it's valuable.
But it's also a great time.
Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Dary.
Speaker 6 (01:18:58):
We got about two minutes, two minutes left with you.
Speaker 9 (01:19:01):
I want to take you and I are sitting at
your house, in my house, we're having a beer and
we're watching college football, and you're to remove yourself from
the job.
Speaker 6 (01:19:09):
You and I are just fans.
Speaker 9 (01:19:11):
You've seen the NFL side, this college side, and with
all the building you got to do for this and
make it conducive.
Speaker 6 (01:19:17):
What are you as a fan? What bothers you? I know,
all the good stuff?
Speaker 9 (01:19:21):
What bothers you about the college football game right now
with all the nil and money? What bothers you about
all this? Or do you love the state of the game.
Speaker 19 (01:19:29):
I don't love the state of the game. I'm old school,
and again I like that the players are actually getting
their fair share, but I think it's so far off
the rails and it's so ungoverned and it's so unregulated
that the haves are still going to be the haves
and the have nots are always going to be the
have nots. If it continues down this road, it's got
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to go to Congress. It's got to go to an
employee base, it's got to go to a two year
it's got to go to CBA. I mean, it's got
to become almost a minor league for the NFL, because
this is gonna this model is not going to work
any longer. I mean, it's just they're gonna run out
of cash and it's gonna hurt all the other Olympic
sports and all the other sports in the university. So
(01:20:12):
that was kind of long winded, John, Sorry, but I
mean not long winded at all.
Speaker 6 (01:20:15):
Bro, I'll blow through the braak.
Speaker 9 (01:20:17):
I love this because I am why you were sitting
in the same church view with that, with that opinion,
I'm I agreed with you. If you were having that beer,
which I'd like to have sometime, that'd be great.
Speaker 6 (01:20:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 19 (01:20:27):
I just I hope that something's done, and I don't
know who is going to be that person, but you
have to have this regulated because again, just like when
the nca says, oh we're going to have Deloitte, you
know handle you know whether this is a you know,
whether that's market value. They don't know that, and then
as soon as somebody says it's not market value, then
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they're gonna get sued and then guess what, the NCAA
is gonna do nothing about it.
Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
Nothing.
Speaker 19 (01:20:54):
So again that's the state of this game needs to
be changed, and it needs to be as equitable as possible,
which is gonna be hard.
Speaker 8 (01:21:03):
It really is Drew Fabianisch again the new Senior Bowl Director.
Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Join us here at SEC Media Days, Drew.
Speaker 8 (01:21:10):
Really appreciate your time and best of luck and look
forward to catching up with you again another time. Drew.
Speaker 9 (01:21:16):
Great stuff, Buddy, good to talk to you man, Thank you,
great insight.
Speaker 6 (01:21:18):
Appreciate your brother you too, Buddy.
Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
Awesome, Appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (01:21:21):
And we'll continue on here from SEC Media Days in Atlanta,
as don't forget. In about twenty minutes, we're going to
talk with SEC Commissioner Greg Sanky. It is the Sean
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Speaker 8 (01:22:17):
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him and also Kirby Smart, Georgia head coach dropped by yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
A lot of local connections with.
Speaker 8 (01:22:31):
Kirby Smart and that's the conversation that me and Chris
Gordy had with him here in Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
And that's gonna come your way in about an hour.
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But the All Star Game last night for three in Homers,
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Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
It's gonna tee off tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (01:22:53):
But Sean, some of the things that we just talked
about with Drew Fabianich, who obviously has been in game
for quite some time, I mean a lot of time
with the Cowboys and talking about you know, his time
there with them, and you know, it's just interesting too
to get his perspective of a guy who went to
the Senior Bowl. And I mean it is an all
day thing. I mean, as he touched on where it's
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not only the formal interviews in the room. And you
know a lot of those guys you can get before
you get to Indianapolis for the combine, so you can
get them right there. I mean as much time and
as much interaction with these guys as possible before you
put in a pretty sizable investment in these guys, they're
gonna take that time. And you know, just kind of saying,
all right, what didn't I like as a scout, and
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what can I change now that I'm in charge.
Speaker 9 (01:23:39):
It's not just an all day thing. It's an all
year thing. He's got a job that there's not any
there's there's not much time off rle. You've already looking
at the guys that the people that can play in
it next year. You've got to have when he talks
about that vertical list that you go down this guy.
And I love the fact that he said, don't play
us and give me the showing up and then three
days before you put everybody in a buy it, don't
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show up. I just soon have somebody that is going
to show up and play hard. I'm with him one
hundred percent, no nonsense.
Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
I like it.
Speaker 9 (01:24:04):
I like the fact that he said the game, I mean,
the college football game has got to change. It cannot
sustain this and it can't. This is not sustainable and
it will. You think it's bad at times. Now, well,
the kid, we want the kid to be successful. But
if the kid's successful and the sport's not, it won't matter.
And college football it has to be governed, and I
hate government involved in it, but it has to be regular.
Speaker 6 (01:24:25):
It just does.
Speaker 9 (01:24:26):
There's no way this can continue. It isn't sustainable financially,
let alone everything else. And you'll start to get people
dropping like flies from the coaching world.
Speaker 6 (01:24:35):
Just it'll just beat you down.
Speaker 9 (01:24:37):
You can't keep up, and then the price will continue
to go up and six graders will be highering agents
and they'll start their You just can't do it. It's not
sustainable and it's not reasonable. So I love the fact
that he's no nonsense. It wasn't afraid to hurt anybody's feelings.
He wasn't afraid to And with this job, he's got
now think about it, he's got to have five or
six replacements at every position. He's got to know who's what,
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what people want to see, and you've got to be
worthy of you know, Okay, a guy there that somebody
wants and you have to listen to coaches and why
this guy and study tape, and then you got to
go talk to agents. That's going to be the biggest
pain in the ass of all of it. Yeah, I
got a convention agent to go get your guy more publicity.
If he's a third round pick, come play in the
thing and be a first round or like you mentioned,
if you're good enough. So yeah, they got the right guy.
(01:25:21):
And I do like the changes. Guys go there to
get jobs. Unemployed coaches go there. Don't bog them down
with stuff till eleven o'clock at night, get it all
done most of the day, and then let them do
hobnob have a beer. And some of the best deals
are made on golf courses. Well, some of the best
deals can be made with somebody sitting at a restaurant. Yeah,
you know what, that's a great idea. Tell me about it.
(01:25:41):
Drawing a nap can what you do in this situation. Bam,
you may be hired next year.
Speaker 6 (01:25:44):
Who knows.
Speaker 9 (01:25:45):
So he's got the right idea and it's no nonsense.
But he wants to cater to the player to make
it well because the players are happy the game's better,
but without having to be holding to them that Hey, yeah,
i'll let you know a day before the Senior Bowl starts. Naw, No,
the game's bigger than one player, and that's important. I
think you got that message from him. And he's seen
the NFL side, he's seen the scouting side, he's seen
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the GM side, he's seen the college side, and now
he gets to run a bowl game that isn't just
a we'll see at a game. Everything that goes into
it to make it successful. They got the right chance
because Jim Naggy was awesome and Jim's now at GM
for where's he at Oklahoma venables GM? Yeah, yeah, And
so Jim took that on and it's a great gig
in it. Before you know what, everybody's going to have
(01:26:28):
a GM in college football, which means it's a pro sport.
I love the fact, I love where Drew's headed with this,
and I think we're at the right We got the
right guy for this.
Speaker 6 (01:26:36):
It's important well, I mean.
Speaker 8 (01:26:39):
And also too, there's Shamar Stewart, you know, Texas A
and M, one of the last unsigned guys for this
signing class. I mean, you know, he's still going through
the contract negotiation with the Bengals. There was a loose
report out there which I don't even think this is
remotely possible of happening, that he's practicing with the A
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and M players and would think about going back. I mean, again,
I don't know how much validity there is to that,
and again, I just don't think that that is possible
for him to be able to do.
Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
But I mean, and when.
Speaker 9 (01:27:14):
He says practicing, official practices haven't started, so yeah. But
when people say it, oh, I'm going to go back
and practice that, the first thought is, oh, he's going
to put on gear and go back and practice with him. Well,
he's at the facility working out, which a lot of
players in their off seasons go back to their facility
and work out, train with the coach.
Speaker 6 (01:27:34):
They're in the weight room doing it.
Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
All.
Speaker 6 (01:27:36):
That's fine.
Speaker 9 (01:27:36):
I actually, if you want my opinion, I think it'd
be a big mistake. I understand rookie contracts in Cincinnati
in the past has been you know, cheap, but they
started to pay. Hell, between Burrow and they're two wide receivers,
they're paying about a billion dollars it seems. And I'm
obviously a little hyperbok with they're paying a little more
now now they need some defense to pay. But to me,
I think I think he's making a mistake going back
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to college and do it and taking the risk of
what could happen. But the nil part of it and
the college thing part of it makes it intriguing because
now guys can go back and get paid. So I
don't know, I'm not getting at his wallet. I don't
know about his negotiations with the Bengals and all that stuff.
But to me, he's going back and working out. It
almost feels like a hey, I'm doing this. See with
(01:28:20):
the threat of it, it's a negotiating ploy. To me,
it'd be great for A and M to get a
guy back, But in truth, I don't this. This is
a rare, rare circumstance. To me, go get your deal done,
Go take care of your business and get yourself ready
to play.
Speaker 6 (01:28:37):
But it's his decision.
Speaker 9 (01:28:37):
If he wants to go back and help A and
M and they spot for him and he can improve
his draft status, great, But there's also the risk that
comes with going back, and we know what those are.
So to me, your first round pick, go play or
change your agent if you're not getting the money you want.
But if he thinks going back to college is good
for him and he can pull this off, findman. He's
working out at Texas A and M, which is what
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a lot of players do in their home state or
their home you know, at their school when they before
a draft or in an offseason. So that's no surprise.
If they were practicing right now and we were in gear,
there'd be a process to go through. You can't just
show up, stick a helmet on and say, oh, you
didn't go into the draft because you haven't signed. And
for people that ask, if you're a draft pick and
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you don't sign, you can go back into the draft,
at least in the past. Now, how the agent stuff
comes into it and the rules and red tape you
got to go through. But the Bengals will be well
aware of that as well. Now, the question is when
you do sign and come to camp, are you bitter?
Do you want out? Do you give it your all?
Is there buy in because of all the trouble you're
going through. So I'm going to suggest or guess that
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he ends up playing in the NFL. But if he doesn't,
well then you just added depth to your Texas A
and M roster if you can pull it off.
Speaker 8 (01:29:52):
I mean, and that's where it really becomes I mean
baseball talk about signability. Hey, if we offer this guy
a certain amount, is he going to come play for
us you gotta skip college? Or is he going to
say no? Not enough, don't draft me. I'm gonna go
to college and I mean you're kind of getting that
now in college football, Sean, Yeah, but we're gonna have
some of these guys that you do.
Speaker 9 (01:30:11):
But it hasn't happened you. We're not get I mean,
there's threats of it. When when when's the last time
it happens a lot and baseball? Either go to college
or you know, guys that don't get draft try to
go back into the draft, go back and play another year,
all those things in baseball. What it doesn't when's the
lad Name me a guy that's done this in college
that you can think of a first round pick in
the LADD and then name me one. There's threats of it.
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It may happen more now because of Nil. It may
very well happen. But being one of the top thirty
players picked in a draft thirty two is a pretty
good gig. Now it's his wallet in his career. He's
got to do what he's got to do, even with nil.
I mean, hell, Quinn, yours had a chance to come back,
could have made more money than he made as a rookie,
and he decided to go in and he wanted to
go compete and Phil fell his time in college was done.
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Good on him. But if he wants to go back,
that's fine. But while there'll be more of it, he's
the threat of it. I can't remember a guy or
name a guy right now. It was a first round
pick and went back into the draft in recent history,
this is a threat. I expect him being Cincinnati. If not,
maybe it opens the cannon worms. But nil does bring
that to the table.
Speaker 8 (01:31:12):
We'll talk about that much more with the Commissioner of
the SEC Greg SANKI gonna step in with us here
as we continue along here me and Atlanta, Seawan Intripoli
back in Houston in our studios. It is a Sean
Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 4 (01:31:30):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues a no now you.
Speaker 8 (01:31:34):
Know, to be joined by the Commissioner of the Southeastern Conference.
He is Greg Sankie. Greg got me here in Atlanta,
Sean Salisbury back in Houston. I spent in a few
minutes with you. Really appreciate your time. I gotta ask
you don't really seem like a reactionary person. And this
is a job that has so many just unknown variables
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out there that you see to kind of see these
things coming, Like, what do you think kind of goes
into that for you?
Speaker 14 (01:32:04):
Really good people around me.
Speaker 11 (01:32:06):
I probably have also learned from the times I've reacted
quickly that you need to be more thoughtful.
Speaker 14 (01:32:12):
In those moments. And you know, there's just a lot
going on.
Speaker 11 (01:32:17):
And if it was an attempt, and I think behind
the scenes, I do have to react on a regular basis,
But if it was an attempt to just constantly be
in reactionary mode, which unfortunately we are, you don't make
a lot of progress.
Speaker 6 (01:32:31):
If that's your strategy, Greg, great to have you on.
Speaker 9 (01:32:35):
If you're overall got something that you want change in
college football or the number one priority overall for the
whole process from high school to college just looking at
the landscape, what would it be?
Speaker 6 (01:32:48):
So I have to pick one? Yeah, the most important
to you? Yeah?
Speaker 14 (01:32:54):
Oh wow? You know.
Speaker 11 (01:32:59):
The challenge we have is the combination of the transfer
freedom and nil all at the same time, which I
think creates a lot of confusion about values. But I
think just decoupling those two from each other, you don't
really make a lot of progress. If it was me,
i'd provide some clarity on transfers A system that is
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educationally sound, so moving around every semester every year doesn't
lead you down the path to graduation. I think that
would be enormously helpful in the areas of things that
we could control. Probably going to get sued if you
have more restrictive policies. That's why I go back and
attach these too sound academic policy helping young people make progress.
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There's nothing wrong with that sort of oversight. That doesn't
mean go into lockdown mode. It just means you need
a more systematic way of managing the issues.
Speaker 9 (01:33:53):
Hey, Greg, I can't think of anybody better to ask
this question. It may be unfair, but I'm gonna ask
it anyway, because you're always transparent. With Nick Saban, I
think the best college coach of all time. And you
know the talk of him coming back, but what you
know of him did the nil and the fact that
it's not regulate how it got we hit that slippery
slope of getting out of hand because Nick's got some
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old school in him. Did that force him to do
this to get back in TV? Do you think that's
the number one reason he walked away, because it sure
seems like he's got a lot of football left in him.
Speaker 11 (01:34:24):
I asked him that directly, So I think his retirement
was announced, not like a Wednesday or Thursday, and I
waited a couple of days and called him just to
check in, and we've talked repeatedly throughout.
Speaker 14 (01:34:35):
You know, I think there are a lot of factors.
You put that on the factor list.
Speaker 11 (01:34:38):
I don't think that was necessarily a tipping point for him.
Certainly a piece of his decision making, but he's not
the type of person that takes one issue and says,
well I'm donner. I mean, because of that, it's a
broader look. Now, I will say, on the transparent side,
it's been really enjoyable to visit with him and just
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watch him where he's not focused on game preparation or recruiting,
think about the game, and be a bit of a
sounding board on some of the big picture issues we
have taking place in college sports.
Speaker 6 (01:35:10):
Well, the dude doesn't get gray hair, Greg.
Speaker 9 (01:35:12):
I mean, for whatever reason, he's he looks like he's
having a lot of fun on college game day.
Speaker 6 (01:35:16):
So it's pretty cool to see.
Speaker 14 (01:35:18):
Yeah, you know, I went up.
Speaker 11 (01:35:19):
To the Texas game at Michigan and it was the
first time i'd seen him in that setting with Kirk
and Reese and.
Speaker 14 (01:35:28):
Desmond and Pat, and I asked him. I called him
the next week about how it's going.
Speaker 11 (01:35:33):
And then I kind of asked the other guys around
the rest of the season about, you know, their Friday interactions,
their dinners, and I've never been to one of their
Friday dinners.
Speaker 14 (01:35:42):
I need to.
Speaker 11 (01:35:42):
Figure out football among that group, which I think would
be fascinating, yes, to be a part of again.
Speaker 8 (01:35:50):
SEC Commissioner Greg sank you joining us here in Atlanta
at SEC Media Days. And when it comes to the
College Football Playoff, I mean, obviously the SEC has a
position on it.
Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
The Big Ten has a position on it.
Speaker 8 (01:36:01):
You know Brett yormark last week talking about it from
the Big twelve perspective. How important is it to obviously
obvious you know what you want is best for the SEC,
but then how much collaboration is needed in order to
get to something that can be agreeable for everyone.
Speaker 11 (01:36:17):
It is a collaborative effort, and they all asked about
what's best for the SEC. So the blake, the bottom
line is, we never would have gone to twelve. If
our motivation was just what's best for the SEC, we
would have stayed at four. I said that plainly, And
if you think about last year, had we been at four,
you would have had what Oregon and Penn State, in
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Georgia and.
Speaker 14 (01:36:42):
Texas that would have been the fourth.
Speaker 11 (01:36:44):
Yes, So the good that we did for college football
is that Ohio State got into the playoff, that Clemson,
that SMU, that Arizona State had any access, the Boise
State had any access. So that the notion that this
is all driven out of cell interest is not actually
consistent with the evidence. Now moving forward, I think there's
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some misunderstanding like this five whatever notion, there's no doubling down.
The five conference champion model is embedded in whatever structure.
So whether we have twelve or fourteen or sixteen, there
are five allocated spots for conference champions. That's not about
somebody's opinion. Now, the question is should we grow beyond twelve.
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Our conference observed after a lot of talk in our
spring meetings that growth perhaps to sixteen was a point
of emphasis, that that access was important. And I'll give
you two reasons why Alabama and Ole Miss both beat
Georgia best win of last year's season. George is a
second ranked team in the country. If they can play
at that level on any given Saturday, perhaps those type of.
Speaker 14 (01:37:53):
Teams could make a run and the expansion is healthy. Now,
how do you invite teams into.
Speaker 11 (01:37:58):
That that playoff? No matter what the number is, we said,
rather than allocating automatically more bids, let's look at the
selection protocol. We have interest in the model. And I've
said this to Brett, to Jim Phillips with the acc
to Tony Pettiti.
Speaker 14 (01:38:17):
And to all my other bulls i'd be in college.
Speaker 11 (01:38:19):
We have interest in this automatic bid model, but we're
not committed to that. What we are interested is improving
the selection process as thinking of that could be achieved,
and I think there.
Speaker 14 (01:38:28):
Needs to be a sense of urgency around that.
Speaker 11 (01:38:31):
And hopefully that's a complete explanation of kind of how
we see the world.
Speaker 9 (01:38:35):
Hey, Greg, about the committee and choosing, and I know
they put a lot of time and effort in and
maybe this is a naive question, and you oversee the
as powerful a conference as there is in sports period
selection committee.
Speaker 6 (01:38:49):
I've always asked why.
Speaker 9 (01:38:50):
Maybe it's elementary, but why is a current athletic We
got enough people in the world that know football and
watch it. Why would a current athletic director that is
on a power power for school.
Speaker 6 (01:39:04):
Why is that.
Speaker 9 (01:39:05):
Person on the committee You can't help with human nature
to lean towards your conference or your Why is there
a person that's an athletic director, current standing athletic director
on that committee.
Speaker 6 (01:39:15):
Why do we do that?
Speaker 14 (01:39:17):
I'm going to give you a couple perspectives. So let's start.
Speaker 11 (01:39:20):
Like the fundamental statement it's come up this week is, hey,
the NFL doesn't use a committee select this playoff teams. Okay,
neither does the NBA, nor Major League Baseball, nor Major
League Soccer, nor the NHL. But in college the existence
of a selection committee, because of the breadth of programs
has involved selection committees in basketball, baseball, whatever. But for
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the period of time when the BCS used computer rankings,
and what was the reaction, then, well, we need humans involved.
Now that the second point, so that the tradition of
selection committees exists in college sports, that's not unique. Now,
the question of who should populate the selection committees is
an interesting one, and this goes back to twenty fourteen,
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and it's a fair question to continue to ask, is
who should populate that? And it was felt at that
time and so this predates my role as commissioner.
Speaker 14 (01:40:10):
That involving athletics directors who are in the sport, who
are part of.
Speaker 11 (01:40:15):
The day to day operations of college football was healthy,
works in other sports, works in basketball, and adding beyond
what other selection committees do those from the outside, so
former coaches, former players, members of the media, people with
significant statues.
Speaker 14 (01:40:34):
So think about former Secretary of State.
Speaker 11 (01:40:36):
Condolleza Rice was on the original committee that that balance
was appropriate with the kind of recusal. So where there
are conflicts of interest, you can't represent your own school,
or if you were the athletic director and another school,
you might be out of that conversation as well. It's
a fair question to ask. I think the credibility of
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the people has been solid over time. I think we
need to continue to look at ways to improve that process,
and perhaps the personnel piece.
Speaker 14 (01:41:04):
Is a piece of it.
Speaker 9 (01:41:05):
Hey, Greg, let me get back to this twelve teams thing.
And it's just such a valid point that you make.
Are you concerned that, Okay, we had sixteen and I
know that you know money and revenue and all that's important,
there's no doubt, but are we in danger? I understand
you can knock down three point shots. In basketball, we
have sixty four teams and a twelve will be to five.
But is it realistic whether we get to sixteen or more.
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Where's the breaking point where we say there's no way
the twenty fifth team in the country can just on
attrition alone depth wise, can handle four or five games
against playing week after week. Where's the cutoff of where
it's no good?
Speaker 14 (01:41:43):
Yeah, I think that's a real question.
Speaker 11 (01:41:45):
And in fact, if you go back to the expansion
to twelve, there were a lot of articles written about
the number of games that would come with a twelve
team playoff. There were none of those articles written during
the playoff last year you had right what you heard
was like Sark and I talked to the all about
how they had adjusted preparation and practices dating back into
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November of that year. So people are going to adjust.
The players told us it's not about the games, it's
about the totality of the year and the impacts through
the year. And so what you've watched coaches naturally adjust
the balance is the opportunity to play for a national
championship versus what's required to do that. And I think
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the issues of depth, particularly when we're going through some
of these roster changes need to be considered. Obviously, the
preparation and the adjustment the gaps between games and the
recovery time is a piece of it. I'll say one
of the challenges with going to sixteen is like where
do you actually.
Speaker 14 (01:42:42):
Place the games on the calendar.
Speaker 11 (01:42:43):
That is a challenge given Army Navy, given the NFL
playing on Saturday, we already have some conflicts there. And
then how do you build enough rest in recovery and
try to finish, you know, by kind of the mid
January date where we currently occupy. There's a lot to
the potential expansion. I tend to think the twelve format
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was really well informed. I'm interested and alternative is beyond that,
but the twelve twelve team thing worked really well last year.
Speaker 8 (01:43:12):
Absolutely, SEC Commissioner Greg sank you joining us here at
SEC Media Days. Commissioner, really appreciate your time and really
enjoyed the conversation, and we'll catch up with you again
here very soon.
Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
Greg.
Speaker 6 (01:43:23):
Great stuff, Thank you, buddy, appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
Thank you, Yeah, thank you, awesome, thank you so much.
Speaker 8 (01:43:27):
All Right, so we'll continue on here on the Seawan
Salisbury Show again, Dan Matthews here in Atlanta, Seawan Pack
in Houston. As we continue here Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
The seven ninety.
Speaker 8 (01:43:38):
Listener line in the eight o'clock hour is presented by
one eight hundred car Cash. Not just you know, the
most powerful commissioner. He is the man who's I mean,
he's saved college football in twenty twenty when the Big
ten and the Pac twelve decided we're not going to
play football and Greg Sankie said, oh, we're gonna try.
(01:43:59):
We're gonna give it every opportunity, and then they had
to double back and say, oh, okay, yeah, well I
guess it can be done, so we will play. But
I mean a lot of the things he talked about,
but one that stood out to me the most was
kind of pushing back on a little bit of a
misnomer that it's the SEC pushing for expansion. He's like, no, honestly,
we proved we could make multiple teams get into the
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college football playoff when it was just four. You guys
are the ones that proved that you were having a
tough time.
Speaker 9 (01:44:27):
There's absolutely no way, and he is if if you
want to know what's going on, in college football, not
just in the SEC.
Speaker 6 (01:44:36):
The guy we just spoke to knows.
Speaker 9 (01:44:40):
And has and can get places that the rest of
the world can't get when it comes to college football.
He knows the pitfalls and he knows exactly what's what's important.
Like I can tell you this that I would doubt
that he wants to get it too big. Even though
the SEC has a lot of good teams, the breaking
point of how many teams and the rest of it
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goes in and you talk about, well, expanding this thing,
I think he's well aware and cognizant of you're at
the water down.
Speaker 6 (01:45:09):
You get past sixteen teams and it's too much.
Speaker 9 (01:45:12):
I'm just telling you right now, the twenty fifth team
in college football cannot win five straight games unless unless
there's injuries to starting course. I mean, they can win
one or two and maybe that's exciting, but that's not
going to happen. And if you get to sixteen, there's
at twelve's pushing it. And you heard him say, hell,
they had a pretty good thing going on when it
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was at four. The SEC is always going to be
represented if you expand it. Listen, if college football wants
to expand it, I'll give you a fair warning. If
you're going to expand four more teams, then you should
expect out of the sixteen damn near half of them
being SEC teams.
Speaker 6 (01:45:47):
That's going to happen.
Speaker 9 (01:45:48):
So if you're one that's pissed off about, well, you
know what SEC keeps getting. The more the more you
the more you open it up, I got news for you.
The more you're just saying, oh, another two SEC teams,
he had four more teams, there's a real good chance
that one or two of them is going to be
an SEC team. And two more teams would have been
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in last year, Ole Miss and South Carolina, they would
have been in the playoff if was sixteen. So you
just added two more of the four, and who the
hell knows if they would have thrown to try to
throw somebody else in.
Speaker 6 (01:46:19):
So Greg gets it, and I know that.
Speaker 9 (01:46:21):
I mean, he's powerful, and then when it comes to
the Commissioner of Commissioners, he's it. So there's some very
very slippery slopes on different and in different spaces here
when it comes to college football. It didn't just won
the needs fix. Think about what we're talking about, who
the committee is, do we expand what about conference? Is
there automatic bids? Do the top four teams have to
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be conference champions? Or can it just be where we
are at the end, which obviously hasn't been in major
discussion and talking point is twelve enough?
Speaker 6 (01:46:51):
Is sixteen too many? Do we need more than sixteen?
Speaker 9 (01:46:54):
When I hear the talk of let's get thirty two in,
just friggin stop it. Just now, you're cheapening. You're cheaping
it because all you're doing is like a yawner. Okay,
should the first team play if you get sixteen teams?
Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
Now?
Speaker 9 (01:47:07):
The one thing about that, as I do like, is
forget bye weeks one, play sixteen, to play fifteen, and
let's make them all play that. What's the advantage to
be in the number one seed? You get to play
number sixteen, That's what the number one that's what the
advantage is. You get to play the and reseed every time.
If you're the number one team and you get some
upsets along the way, you may be playing three teams
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that are outside the top eight. So yeah, if you
keep wishing for this, the SEC isn't going to get worse.
They're just going to keep you expand they're getting more
teams in. So I would suggest that Greg Sanki gets it,
but an nil and transfer portal, college football doesn't have
a College football's got a little bit of a band,
and I'm telling you there's deep cuts. You've heard two
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guys now come on today to talk about college football.
Sanke's you know, sees it a little closer. But both
guys know that while football is beloved, there's a lot
of matter of there's more problems in college football than
there is in the NFL. There's so much more to fix,
and it's turned it into a complicated process. But still,
who of us isn't looking forward to the start of
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the season.
Speaker 1 (01:48:12):
Now?
Speaker 8 (01:48:12):
And you know, as you were talking there, I just
started to think about we've already seen what it looks
like once with twelve teams in and how the opening
weekend go all four home teams one, Texas one, Notre
Dame one, Ohio State one, and State one. They all
moved on. But as the thing played out, I mean
two of the teams that made it all the way
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at the end were two of the teams that also
played on that opening weekend, Notre Dame in Ohio State.
Speaker 9 (01:48:38):
Yeah, but there's no doubt they've played on opening weekend,
but they also have the depth to handle, you know,
the what ifs, and they just to go through it.
And they did play in a different format. They may
not have had to play in the opening weekend. But
if you had sixteen teams, listen, if you the only
way I love sixteen teams is if you eliminate a
bye week, if you em andate the buy, make them
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all play, make them all they make them all have
to play. And like I said, the advantages, you get
to play the worst of the sixteen, at least by
the ranking. So now everybody plays. There's no oh, you
got this and why'd they get this bid? And why
did they get this one? Play sixteen and on down.
Other than that, the more isn't the merrier when it
comes to this. It's just when physicality is part of it,
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the rich are going to get richer and they're going
to usually withstand this. That's why those two teams you
mentioned can withstand playing on the first weekend and play
every week and do their thing. So there's a lot
to love, but there's also a ton. At no time
in the history of this game college football have we
needed for a game that we love so much and
anticipate coming around every year. At no time has it
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been more teetering on. It could fall one way and
be great if they do it right, and it can
fall the other way where people are like, nah, this
ain't it, and we are close having both.
Speaker 6 (01:50:00):
We still get the great players.
Speaker 9 (01:50:02):
But if you don't, if it doesn't become about the
great play on the field, then it becomes a problem.
Because that's exactly the pomp and circumstance of college football
is a big reason why we love it. The loyalty,
our commitment to our teams and our university. If you
start to lose that, which we've already started to lose it,
guys are leaving. I love this school, my dad went there,
but not more money here. You start to lose that.
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Then you start to lose that feeling of fan based
loyalty because you are like that guy, his dad went here.
He's leaving for for a one hundred thousand more dollars,
which I get because the rule says you can. But
this is a big time business. That is exactly that,
a business. But you got to be careful because we
still want the purity even though it's not there of
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feeling like it's a amateur sport even though it's a
pro sport. So foolst however you can, but right now,
this is a business and they should be treated as such.
Speaker 8 (01:50:56):
Well, and that's just it. I mean, remember the business
side of it. I've told you numerous times the Football
Playoff is it's a TV show. Get as many eyes,
get as much money that you can flowing into this
thing as possible. And that's why, Sean, I mean you
just talked about it, Rivalries going away, got you know, teams,
switching conferences, whatever it might be. It continues to evolve
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towards that point. And I just think that eventually that's
where this leads, is that they look around and say, oh,
we could add two more games, even more money. Eventually
go to neutral sites where we get these Bowl games,
starting to bid out even.
Speaker 1 (01:51:30):
More money to play these games. Yeah, I think we're
going to go that route.
Speaker 9 (01:51:35):
Yeah, but the eye test, if you keep going and
adding more and more and more teams, the first weekend
will be like the first round of the NBA Playoffs,
where you know that the better team's gonna kick your ass.
Most of the time. There's not enough good teams that
can withstand that. As we going we oh yeah, another
more more money. Oh and when I mentioned to Greg, thankye,
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I know it's revenue, dude. Of course it is if
you follow the money. But at some point in time
the money is gonna have to at least take a
back seat a little bit, or at least control the
money to where you haven't made it obvious to us
that this is no longer a college sport. We've got
general managers, we've got pay for play or play for pay?
(01:52:16):
Should I say we've got I mean once we got
the general manager, and you're gonna need collective bargaining, all
those things you're gonna need, and now you've opened it,
getting back to the way it was will be more
difficult than fixing it on this downhill slide. Great sport,
great game. The business model we got right now absolutely sucks, period.
Speaker 8 (01:52:38):
Man. It just seems like we're getting further and further
away from the former that you just mentioned right there,
and not necessarily the latter. Speaking of everything happening here
at SEC Media Days, it was a busy day around
here yesterday for an inexperienced guy who might have already
had some experience.
Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
We'll talk about it right here.
Speaker 8 (01:52:56):
It is a Sean Salisbury show on a Western Wednesday,
Sports Talks seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
This Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue.
Speaker 8 (01:53:08):
David Cutcliffe a man who knows the mannings pretty well.
He's going to join us as he's now doing some
work with the SEC. But let's squeeze in biscuit wants
to get into biscuit.
Speaker 10 (01:53:18):
Good morning, Hey, top of the morning to you, Hey,
Sean and Dan. When whenever you interview somebody, Sean and
they give answers that like you have you saying hmmm,
I didn't think about it that way. That lets you
know you're dealing with a sharp guy, and that that.
Speaker 12 (01:53:35):
That dude it is now you know why that dude
is a commissioned SEC man. That's a sharp dude.
Speaker 14 (01:53:39):
Man.
Speaker 9 (01:53:40):
You ain't lying, and that's why that's why they keep
him there because he's a powerful man that gets it
very very He's got great business acumen, no kid, no
no doubt about that.
Speaker 10 (01:53:50):
Right.
Speaker 12 (01:53:51):
Uh, did Sean maybe I call it lad? Was there
a question about the A and M player? Did you
ask him a question from vision to come back?
Speaker 9 (01:54:01):
We did not ask him about that I've been asked
about that.
Speaker 6 (01:54:05):
A number of times.
Speaker 9 (01:54:07):
I'll tell you there's there, there is a place where
you can actually if you do not get if you're
let's say you're drafted to fifteenth pick of the first
round and you do not sign. Now, I don't know
with all the different you know, it seems like that
we move the goalpost on rules and regulations every year.
But I can tell you this, it is in place
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unless in the last year they've gotten rid of it.
That you if you don't get drafted and sign a contract.
Now I don't know about the agent thing. If you've
started negotiations, can you go back that there is a
place that if you did not get draft, if you
got drafted and did not sign a contract, you could
go back. Now the question is back in the draft
for the next year, where you just train in the
offseason and go back the following year, or go back
(01:54:50):
and play like in the NBA, you know in the past,
where you don't hire an agent, go back and it
does exist. It's not just a fake thing. Now whether
he can go practice with them? Has it changed with
nil and all that? Were you Once you've been drafted.
Now you've got to go through this. You can't play
for us, but you got it, but you can. You
can go back into the draft if you do not
sign a contract, you absolutely can. But as far as
(01:55:13):
as far as being able to if a him watch
you back, if am watching back, I still believe the
rule is if Anon wanted it back and he hasn't
signed a contract, he can actually go back and play
and get himself back into the twenty twenty six draft.
So if this isn't just fake news where he had
that that option and that option has been available in
the past, and I still think it is now.
Speaker 20 (01:55:37):
Another thing Dan, And from the interview of the guy Sean,
it seemed like there's two things that play and you
you you address one of them Sean. Either you're gonna
have bys or you're gonna have sixteen team. You can't
have Bob Man sixteen. Either gonna do away with the
buys and has and he's not the SEC commissioner not
worried about it, because if you're right, if it add.
Speaker 12 (01:55:59):
More teams, go bect.
Speaker 20 (01:56:01):
He seems added.
Speaker 12 (01:56:03):
The other thing though, Dan, and maybe I took.
Speaker 20 (01:56:05):
More out of it, was to me calendar. It seems
like a bigger issue and were really giving it the
way he made it sound, it's saying like how they
going to be able to fit it all in if
they had more teams and still had a season in
by a certain date. That's what it seemed like. He
was saying that it's a problem with the calendar and
(01:56:26):
to trying to fit it all in.
Speaker 1 (01:56:29):
Yeah, I appreciate the call.
Speaker 8 (01:56:30):
I mean, that is one thing though, to Sean that
I do appreciate. The RUSE is no longer around of amateurism,
and it's almost you know, school presidents, ads, commissioners, these
student athletes, Like don't you kind of notice that's starting
to go away? Like it's almost like now like all right,
(01:56:52):
people know that amateurism and everything's out the window.
Speaker 1 (01:56:55):
Like these guys are making tons of money.
Speaker 8 (01:56:57):
They're pros already now that you know, we don't have
to continue to label them as such. And I think
you go even further. The school calendar doesn't matter at
this point. You can take classes online. All of that's
out the window. You can try to use that as
an excuse, and that's exactly what it is. It's not
even it's not even a valid one.
Speaker 9 (01:57:16):
I know students now that are in universities that ninety
percent of there, that the most of them don't even
show up to class ever, are that live at the university.
I can tell you that they do a bunch of
their classes online that they just if the old days
of a I'll see the same person on campus state
(01:57:36):
they may live across the street and you may not
see them in your you know, in the lecture for
a while. And you're exactly right. And I'm I am
complete agreement with you on the calendar thing. And I
like to appreciate the question from Biscuit and I when
it comes to this, because first of all, from about
mid December to mid to late January, they're they're not
(01:57:56):
in school. There's no school, and so if you play
it for four or five this is the time they're
just away on their holidays. And so yeah, I don't
want there where you're playing it all in December and
half of January. I don't need it to be the
NBA playoffs that I don't need. But if you start
the playoffs in mid December, whenever you do, there'll be
(01:58:18):
enough time they can do that. But the more you
do it four games, five game, we don't need thirty
two teams. The sixteen's the max, and like I said,
you would have to do away with by weeks. And
I'm okay with that part. But past that can't do
it anymore. And I'm not worried about And when we say,
well the academic load, they're not student athletes anymore.
Speaker 6 (01:58:36):
They're just not.
Speaker 9 (01:58:37):
Now some may have that priority, it's not fair to
say that they're not going to class.
Speaker 6 (01:58:40):
I don't know who is or who isn't. But let's
face facts.
Speaker 9 (01:58:42):
The first thing that comes up ain't in the when
you're interviewing a guy for to give them a scholarship,
or you're going through the recruiting process. Rarely is somebody
a parent walking in and saying, hey, do they have
his major? Are you going to look after my son?
Do we are we assure? How's the tutoring going on?
It's now become And I've talked to coaches. Money's always
(01:59:04):
mentioned in the first three questions by the kid or
the parent. What are you gonna what are you gonna do?
Does he got a chance to start? How much time
you on national TV? What are you doing offensively or defensively? Oh,
by the way, that that question doesn't come up anymore.
So it it used to be. And I know guys
that didn't go to a school because they didn't have
the major that were dedicated to school at their school,
so they went and played or went to school somewhere else.
(01:59:25):
So that's out. I don't refer to them as student
athletes anymore. If I do, it's on accident out because
that's not what they are. That's not They're athletes first,
and the student education thing is just the add on,
that's the extra curriculuar.
Speaker 6 (01:59:39):
Soh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 9 (01:59:40):
Got to keep eligible during football and hopefully and maybe
go back and get my degree. But the most part
now referring to them as student athletes is just is
you got it backwards. It's athletes, student first, and cash
on hand.
Speaker 8 (01:59:53):
Well, and I mean it only seems like that's increasing
by the day. As so we continue along, but we
you continue along here from SEC media days as coming
up next, we are expected to be joined by the
Special Assistant for Football Relations to Commissioner Greg Sanki in
the SEC. Oh yeah, he was also a football coach
(02:00:14):
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I mean, you've been on plenty of radio rows before that,
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this last one ran a little bit late, so he's
got to go do somebody else and he's gonna come back.
So coming up next segment, we're gonna hear from David Cutcliffe,
but he did coach Eli in college and Peyton as
(02:01:49):
an oc at Tennessee, and now he knows a little
bit about Arch Manning, who we're gonna get to see
this year. And yesterday he in the Texas contingent came
through year. It was his first chance to be able
to meet with the media and the only other time
that I think I can remember this much pomp and
circumstance about a player here at SEC Media Days was
(02:02:10):
my very first media days, and that was Johnny Football
after he won his Heisman and Tebow a few years
ago before that. Because it was so big for him,
they didn't just have him at one of these breakout podiums.
They had Tebow at the main podium in the room
because they knew that everybody and then some would be
around him at the podium. But a lot of hype
(02:02:31):
around Arch Manning heading into this season.
Speaker 9 (02:02:35):
And rightfully so, man, I mean this is and he
said that, yeah, what if I played two games, I
got to prove it. That's a guy who gets it.
Here's a top recruit. The privilege of being a Manning name,
if that's what you want to call it. But those
Mannings didn't get privileged by every single one of them
worked their ass off to have an opportunity to do it.
They studied harder, they played better in big games, and
(02:02:58):
they doesn't. And I got news for you. Cooper is
as smart and as good as any. I'm the father
of Arch, and the grandfather was pretty good too. They've
had a process and stuck to it with all their family.
This is how they do things, and they've been able
to adjust and adapt when necessary, and they've just gone listen,
We're at a time when most high profile quarterbacks would
(02:03:20):
not have waited it out.
Speaker 6 (02:03:22):
They just wouldn't have.
Speaker 9 (02:03:23):
So they trust Sarkisian, they trust what's going on with
with Texas football, and they trust Arch to take care
of it.
Speaker 6 (02:03:31):
Now.
Speaker 9 (02:03:32):
Is he a two year guy when it comes to starter?
Is he a one year guy? But it doesn't shock
me that his approach is, yeah, all this, I got
to go prove it because you know what, guess Peyton's
not throwing it. And one thing I know he does
better than both him and Eli is he's got better
feet than both of them combined. So he gives you
some legs and some movement that they didn't now think
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about that you're at a high profile program with one
of the best play callers and head coaches in the world.
You've got all this, You've been in waiting and waiting.
We've had this appetizer for we're going on three years now.
Hell we even had it when he was in high
school waiting on arch manning. But every step of the
process has been I'm telling you, this isn't just by
chance for them. They're methodical and they know exactly what
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they're doing. Now he's got to go put up. He's
got to go play. The expectations are high, even with
those guys, with Tebow and his performance. Those two guys,
their performance led to constant pub Johnny didn't have anywhere
near this. As matter of fact, he was a fourth
or fifth guy on the roster coming out of high school.
So he wasn't that guy when he got there. And
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even Tim Tebow, who was highly publicized, became that guy
while he was the starter. This guy became that guy
while he was a junior in high school. So he's
got to deal with all the pub he's got to
deal with expectations, he's got to deal with big shoes
to fill because the family and how he handles media, interviews, everything,
every single thing. And I got news for you. They've
(02:04:55):
planned for this. They didn't just say, hey, yeah, arch
Heer's how you handle that. He's watched his his dad
handle the media about him. He's watched Peyton and Eli
and Archie handle the media, and hey, how to be
a pro, how to be a teammate. Listen, when you're
the number one recruit in the country or right near it,
when you come out in your last name's Manning, you
it'd be easy to walk into a building say what
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do I have to earn? You know what I've done? Yeah,
we saw what you did in high school. So I
love the fact that already he said, I've played what
two games, I've got to go out and earn it.
I love it, and I think, uh, I think it'll
it'll It'll help arch Manning on the next step. And
I love the approach because don't kid yourself.
Speaker 6 (02:05:33):
I'm sure. And Cooper's funny.
Speaker 9 (02:05:34):
His dad, he's a fun guy, and I'm sure his dad,
who loves and supports him, has put it up there
say now it's on, you go do your thing, and
they would. They won't micro manage that. They'll let him
go play. Nothing worse than a quarterback than having clutter,
and that that that family does a great job and
always has an eliminating clutter from their minds from it,
(02:05:55):
their their their their, their circle of people, and they
get it and so does arch Manning. Now if he
goes and performs, then what oh my gosh. To be
able to live up to that and go perform, he
is obviously the most talked about, but also even if
we weren't talking about him, we are intrigued to see
what he and Sark do together and that Texas Longhorned
team and you know, it's been a minute since they've
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won the national title, and I know people are excited
about him, but I love his approach to it thinking
he's still got to go prove it. And that's saying
something at a time of entitlement for these kids who
are getting paid more money than the guy that's going
to coach them in their quarterback room in college.
Speaker 8 (02:06:32):
Yeah, that was the experience that I was talking about.
And clearly yesterday he did not want to make a
story of himself with his words, much more with his play.
All right, promise coming up next, we're gonna hear from
Dave Cutcliffe, who is now with the SEC and of
course talking about the Mannings.
Speaker 1 (02:06:49):
He knows much about them.
Speaker 8 (02:06:51):
We'll catch up with him here live in Atlanta at
SEC Media Days here on the Sean Salisbury Show, Sports
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Speaker 2 (02:08:37):
Hi less know.
Speaker 8 (02:08:40):
He is David Cutcliffe and he joins us right now.
Coach really appreciate your time today. And you know you
had experience coming through here, sitting down, putting on the headsets,
going to the podium and doing all of those different
types of things.
Speaker 1 (02:08:53):
But I mean, how much has this whole thing changed
since you were doing that.
Speaker 21 (02:08:58):
I have to remind our co Is and I do
all the time. This is called football media days. Come
here not to hit all the hot item buttons. Come
here to talk about your program, your team, the individual players,
your staff. Prepare yourself to focus on what matters most
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and that's your people. So it hasn't changed in all
that many ways other than it's gotten bigger. Now I'm
talking to people in Houston, Texas, by the way, one
of the great high school football areas in this whole country.
Speaker 18 (02:09:38):
But yeah, it's it's bigger and it's going.
Speaker 1 (02:09:42):
To continue to change.
Speaker 21 (02:09:43):
But the core value system doesn't have to change unless
you've just let it.
Speaker 9 (02:09:50):
Coach at this time of year, first of all, thanks
for joining. It's always great to talk to you. At
this time of year. Your year start to get beads
of sweat. You're a coach man, I know you're doing
great things. Absolutely at this time of year has got
to me you're preparing for your opener, getting your team ready.
Speaker 6 (02:10:06):
How are you right now? And are you do you
want to coach again?
Speaker 18 (02:10:11):
I want to, but I won't.
Speaker 21 (02:10:13):
I could coach another seventy years if the Good Lord
would let me.
Speaker 18 (02:10:17):
I miss it.
Speaker 2 (02:10:18):
Uh.
Speaker 21 (02:10:18):
Peyton stays on me all the time. He said, man,
you know things other people don't know. You need to
still be coaching. And then he gets Tom Moore to
call me, and Tom Moore insults me and calls me soft.
Speaker 18 (02:10:30):
You know, Coach Moore still.
Speaker 9 (02:10:31):
Going in that great boys coach Moore who's been coaching
for like eighty years and is one of the greatest
p He was my coach in Minnesota. Love him and
he gave you that a running again. I'm sure Peyton's
imitating you.
Speaker 1 (02:10:44):
Are short man.
Speaker 9 (02:10:47):
How are you resisting at coach? I mean, you're your guy, Peyton.
We're all we all want to know.
Speaker 6 (02:10:52):
Why? So why not?
Speaker 1 (02:10:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 21 (02:10:54):
I got ten grandchildren, forty seven years of coach, and
I have in my mind maybe fifty would have been right,
but I stopped at forty seven. And I have one
of the greatest human beings as a life partner in
my wife, and I do I pray about it, and
I've turned down jobs and opportunities. I think about the
(02:11:17):
NFL because how much fun it would be to take
one guy and have him, you know, for eight or
nine years or whatever it may be. Because I really
think that's the place you can make a difference with
a guy. And that's why I was fortunate that Peyton
and Eli always came back and spent time. And then
I'm doing some coaching right now. Daniel Jones has gone
(02:11:39):
through a lot. He came and stayed with me a
week and we man, we had fun.
Speaker 18 (02:11:44):
I'm coaching him. I got him moving around so fast.
Speaker 21 (02:11:47):
He's like, I could get that tired. And I said, Daniel,
let's get going, man. You need to play faster, think
faster and anyway. Yeah, that's not an answer, but that's
what I feel. You can see I'm all over the play.
Speaker 9 (02:12:02):
Well, at least we got you can at least thinking
about it. But those grandkids, I get it. Coach, with
the impact you've made there and you've seen You've been
through a lot of changes as a coach when you
first started to where we are now. So all that
time in between and the state of college football, do
you like it.
Speaker 1 (02:12:21):
I don't love where we are.
Speaker 21 (02:12:23):
I'm going to start calling it higher education football because
what's been life changing about it. And Sean, you would
know this, and I believe agree to this that the
education you get.
Speaker 18 (02:12:35):
On a football field, on a football.
Speaker 21 (02:12:37):
Team, within the institution of higher education is what gives
you the opportunity to be a successful person. And one
of my favorite words is community. And we're all involved
in a lot of different communities.
Speaker 1 (02:12:52):
And you know what, my hope.
Speaker 21 (02:12:54):
For all of our players through the years is whatever
community they go to, whether it's their church community, whether
it's the community they live in their own families, that
they're going to have a resourceful, successful life because they're
educated people.
Speaker 18 (02:13:09):
So that's the part.
Speaker 21 (02:13:11):
And I don't like transactional relationships. I want some sheer
and genuine relationships to still be a big part of
what we're doing.
Speaker 8 (02:13:23):
David Cutcliffe again, long time at college football coach, now
working with the SEC, join us here on the Shawn
Salisbury Show. So story comes out yesterday as me and
Shaumer is talking about arch Manning making his rounds here.
Speaker 1 (02:13:35):
You were the first coach to offer him a scholarship.
Speaker 21 (02:13:38):
Absolutely man Day was born, I was a head coach
at Ole Missa. At the time, I had a courier
to take scholarship papers over there, and I told Cooper
and Ellen, nobody will be behead of me now, nobody.
Unfortunately I didn't stay in that position to back it
up years later. But Coop would bring hide and our
(02:14:00):
and we'd spend time together. They even came up to
Duke and loved working out with him. I met with
him yesterday morning before it all started and just you know,
to tell him I love him and wish him well.
And then I gave him the Big two and Sean,
I'm interested in what you think of the Big two,
and he knew.
Speaker 18 (02:14:19):
He looked at me and said Big two right, and
I said yes.
Speaker 21 (02:14:22):
I said Number one will always you work every day
at becoming the best teammate in the program, and right
now today is a great way to display it. Talk
about your teammates. You don't have to center anything. You're
going to be asked a lot of questions to talk
about your teammates.
Speaker 1 (02:14:40):
Number two is that we don't work football.
Speaker 21 (02:14:43):
Nobody goes out and say, hey man, let's go work
some football. You say, let's go play football. And I said,
I want to see you smile some but you better
not forget we're.
Speaker 1 (02:14:51):
Playing a game. We're playing football.
Speaker 21 (02:14:55):
Enjoy it, and you know, I think he was appreciative
of that feeling. And then I will say this. I
don't know if they'll publicize it, and maybe I shouldn't say.
Speaker 18 (02:15:04):
It, but I push people here.
Speaker 21 (02:15:06):
The day before, they had Archie's jersey out because old
Miss and Kiffin were here, so I told him to
go find it and we got some pictures of arch
here in the Hall of Fame holding Archie's jersey. I
called his dad, we sent it to them, and I
haven't called Archie yet. I'm gonna wait till all this
is over, but I'm certain they've put it in front
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of them, and I put it in front.
Speaker 18 (02:15:29):
Of Peyton and Eli.
Speaker 21 (02:15:30):
But that was emotional for me to see arch Manning
holding Archie Manning's college jersey so many years after his
dad been in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (02:15:44):
And you know, we're just all of it pretty cool.
Speaker 9 (02:15:47):
Well, Coach, your impact on the Manning family and vice versa.
I mean, you guys relationship has been obviously well documented,
but those of us who love football and love what
you guys have done together is pretty cool. And with
Arch coming along, and you are so right about the
big two hand, the fact that I call when you
need to talk about talk about your teammates to buy in.
Your teammates need to buy into the guy that's leading them,
and you've got to be one of them. So I'll
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ask you this. You've seen Eli coached him, You've trained
these guys, You've worked with these guys in quarterbacks all over.
You know, the Manning family. I love when Art said,
you know what, I played two games man, I got
to go prove it. What's going to make him special?
With all this pressure on him?
Speaker 21 (02:16:27):
Yeah, you know, it all goes well. I'm and I
told a reminded Cooper of this yesterday on the phone.
He has elite work ethic. He has elite preparation focus.
If and you know this, I mean if you can
shit a lot of time and watch tape, if you're
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not watching it correctly, if you're not charting things you're seeing,
if you're not taking notes, if you're not elite in
the process, you have no chance of being elite as
a player. He has boatloads of talent, But I can
show you other people that had boatloads of talent that
did not make an elite status.
Speaker 1 (02:17:09):
And he understands that.
Speaker 21 (02:17:10):
We've talked about that we're all a product of our
daily habits, not just on the field, but off and
so I think his habits are outstanding. He has a
great love for the game. He's not playing quote for money.
You would know maybe better than I, But the NFL
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guys that were extremely successful weren't focused on playing for money.
They had a focus on being great, you know. So
I think every opportunity is there. I pray for good
health for him. That's never guaranteed. I'll remind all of them,
the greatest friends you have is a run game. Don't
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ever complain about running for four hundred yards if you're
a quarterback, okay, And then we all know that we're
offensive lineman, sorry, receivers. Offense of linemen are more important
than receivers, okay, because those receivers don't mind her if
your offense of lines not good enough. So a lot
of things involved. But let me tell you what he knows.
Speaker 18 (02:18:13):
How to work. I've worked with him personally.
Speaker 21 (02:18:15):
He knows exactly how to work a watching practice. He
makes practice like a game. And I'm not giving that
lip service.
Speaker 1 (02:18:23):
That's real.
Speaker 9 (02:18:24):
Hey, coach, you know what, we definitely know that he
got grandpa's jeans.
Speaker 6 (02:18:27):
That will give him an advantage.
Speaker 9 (02:18:30):
He may be able to backpedal with better feet than
both Tayton and he like a mind.
Speaker 6 (02:18:33):
So those got that advantage on those question.
Speaker 1 (02:18:36):
He can take off and run with it.
Speaker 21 (02:18:37):
But I'm going to remind him there's other people on
that other side of the line of scrimmage that can
run right to be smart.
Speaker 6 (02:18:45):
Okay, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (02:18:48):
There we go again.
Speaker 8 (02:18:49):
SEC Special Assistant to the Commissioner for Football Relations and
also former college football coach David Cutliff joined us here
on the Shan saw Very show.
Speaker 1 (02:19:00):
Coach, really appreciated again, and we'll like, thank you.
Speaker 14 (02:19:04):
I love what you guys are doing.
Speaker 21 (02:19:06):
And we got a great game and remember higher education football.
Speaker 9 (02:19:11):
There you go, coach, It's always great to talk to you.
Sure appreciate you. Thank you, talk to you.
Speaker 8 (02:19:15):
Okay, there you go, David Cutcliffe. And man, those stories, Man,
that that was the best part of that.
Speaker 9 (02:19:21):
I'm going to tell you, well, he'd have a thousand
of them, co Coach Cutcliffe. Coach Cutcliffe is known for
his stories. He's seen a lot of football man. I'm
going to tell you that we talk about all the
brilliant like young minds, and there's a lot of them
out there.
Speaker 6 (02:19:33):
We see him coach all over the place. You can
do a lot.
Speaker 9 (02:19:36):
First of all, Daniel Jones working with you know Coach
Cutcliffe as he obviously knows him from the past because
he coached him a good, smart move, smart move. This
is one of the more brilliant uh well. First of all,
his integrity as a head coach and a person is
through the roof. Coach Cutcliffe is widely known around all
walks of life, NFL, college, high school as one of
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the more brilliant and great football minds. And you can
tell how his methodical approach doesn't it match the Mannings
and what they're trying to get accomplished. There is a
formula that he lives by and he doesn't waiver from it.
I love him and in truth, I wish we could
talk him out of it. Ten grandkids. Maybe if you
can get those ten grandkids to convince him, that would
(02:20:19):
be cool. But it'd be nice to see him get
there and in the NFL. Give him Daniel Jones or
give him one of these young quarterbacks nine or ten years.
I got news for you. You bring that talent to
coach Clutcliff, you will walk away better period. So it's
always nice to talk football with him. He's a guy Dan.
If you said, Sean picked fifteen guys that you want
to sit down coaches, former coaches or current coaches, and
(02:20:41):
he said, you want to sit down and talk offensive
and defensive football and life with him, he's got to
see at the table on my invites. He would have
a fifteen to top fifteen, top ten sea at the
table because not only how he's coached, who he's coached,
how he approaches it, because there's a different he may
it different than others, but I got news for the
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end result is usually pretty successful. If David Cutcliffe would
have been the head coach at tennessee David Cutcliffe at
a place now, not saying Duke camp at the academic
load and all that.
Speaker 6 (02:21:13):
If you if you would have given him.
Speaker 9 (02:21:14):
A top notch get ten star, four or five star
guys a year, you're looking at a guy who has
a ring on his finger as a head coach. I'm
just telling you he's beloved in all phases. Hence why
Greg SANKI has him there on his staff as well.
Speaker 8 (02:21:31):
No, I mean, and you know, as we just heard
talking with him too, I mean, a great guy. You know,
really enjoyed having that conversation with him. But I mean
also what you mentioned about the Mannings. I mean we
know that when it comes to film, work, preparation, everything else,
there seemingly is nobody even still that rivals Peyton.
Speaker 1 (02:21:49):
And I mean the fact that he.
Speaker 8 (02:21:51):
Trusts him as much as he does, it speaks about
his knowledge.
Speaker 1 (02:21:55):
As you just pointed out to.
Speaker 9 (02:21:56):
Due, there will be nobody in football that Peyton Manning
would if he had outside his own family. I don't
believe that if he said I need some life advice
outside his family, life advice and football advice the first call.
I believe Tom Moore would be one of them who
coached us in Minnesota. Tom Moore coach Terry Bradshaw, he
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came through Minnesota, he coached in Arizona, He's coached a
lot of places. He's coach Manning, he's coach Brady. Well,
one of these things is not like the other. We
got to have Tom Moore with me and Wade Wilson
and Rich Cannon. Phenomenal coach. He would go through Tom
or David Cutcliffe. Those two are sitting in the room
with Peyton Manning when you want to talk football in life,
and you can do a lot worse.
Speaker 6 (02:22:37):
There's no question, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:22:39):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 8 (02:22:40):
Speaking of coaches, we got another one coming up. As
yesterday me and Chris Gordy able to catch up with
Georgia head coach Kirby Smart and I mentioned the local ties. Well,
there's a lot of those ties that will be discussed
in this conversation. We'll have that for you here as
we continue on the Sean Salisbury Show. Dan Matthews in
Atlanta at SEC Meet Days, Sean Tripoli back in studio
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as we'll continue to roll along in your Sports Talk
seven ninety.
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Speaker 8 (02:24:48):
The seven ninety listener line here in the nine o'clock
hour is presented by one eight hundred car Cash Talk
with Greg Sank You earlier called him the most powerful
man in college sports. How about one of the most
powerful coaches in all of college football, Kirby Smart and
a guy that knows the Houston area.
Speaker 6 (02:25:04):
Well, are you asking me a question or throwing to
the tape?
Speaker 1 (02:25:12):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (02:25:13):
Okay, So what's your question to me?
Speaker 1 (02:25:17):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (02:25:18):
Just about Kirby Smart and just what he's been able
to do it.
Speaker 6 (02:25:20):
Yeah, he's been too.
Speaker 1 (02:25:21):
I mean he's recruiting prowess.
Speaker 9 (02:25:22):
Yeah, he's spectacular, and I'd be curious if I know
that this bothers a lot of coaches this state of
the game. But I also know that he's one of
the great adjusters in game and out of game, and
I know he's a scorekeeper when it comes to want
this national title. He's one of my favorite coaches in
college football because he's no nonsense and he wants players
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to play for them because they love Georgia. But he
also understands that the rules say you can pay players
and do all that with nil, so you got to
stay involved to keep up. But I think he's one
of college football's best coaches. Yeah, we cover all of
that in our conversation.
Speaker 8 (02:25:57):
Me and Chris Gordy able to catch up with head
coach of the George Bulldogs yesterday here at SEC Media Days.
You know, with football kicking off here pretty soon, I
note that you know, you go all over the country
when it comes to recruiting, but.
Speaker 1 (02:26:09):
We're in Houston.
Speaker 8 (02:26:10):
You got some guys that you've been able to add
to your program over the years out of the Houston area.
What is it about the high school football not only there,
but just in the state of Texas.
Speaker 13 (02:26:19):
Great programs they do a tremendous job.
Speaker 22 (02:26:21):
You know, the foundation is having financial independence and financial
support to pay coaches and have facilities and grow kids.
And tell you what they got them. They got facilities,
they've got kids, They've got a youth programs, they grow kids.
Speaker 13 (02:26:37):
Just the state of Texas is loaded with the good
football players.
Speaker 23 (02:26:40):
Talking about coach Kirby smart coach I was. I was
down there in New Orleans at the Senior Bowl. Everything
just seemed off that weekend, not just not with football,
but you know, obviously the terror attack and obviously lost
your dad ndulences on.
Speaker 13 (02:26:52):
That, but I was at the game.
Speaker 23 (02:26:54):
It just things just didn't seem it felt out of sync.
Did it feel that way to you, I mean, it
just felt everything changing and you can't control some of
those things, but it just felt very odd.
Speaker 22 (02:27:04):
Yeah, you know, he's set to play one day, then
it changes to the next.
Speaker 13 (02:27:07):
Both teams have to deal with it.
Speaker 22 (02:27:08):
It was very unique in dealing with the transition of time.
Speaker 13 (02:27:13):
But I mean we didn't play our best game.
Speaker 22 (02:27:15):
We gave up a touchdown return on a kickoff, a
kickoff turner touchdown, which is very unlike us, and turn
the ball over. So if you lose spect teams and
lose turnover battle, you're not gonna win any games good.
Speaker 8 (02:27:28):
I was gonna say again, Kirby Smart, join us here
at SEC media Days and in that game though, that
was the first one that Gunner ever started for you guys,
after he came in in relief in the SEC Championship game.
What did it say about him to have all that
put on him and to still go out there and
perform the way he did well?
Speaker 22 (02:27:44):
It was the defense he's going against was a very
unique defense. They were a hardcore man to man team.
They don't give you many easy throws, so he ended
up with really nice percentage of completion rate. But you know,
you can't find easy throws when people just play manna
man and Notre Dame was known for that. They were
a really good defensive football team. And we couldn't run
the ball very good. So when you don't run the
ball very good, you put a lot of pressure on
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your quarterback.
Speaker 23 (02:28:07):
I've said this before you your teams. You've earned the
benefit of the doubt when it comes to rebuild versus reload.
Georgia doesn't rebuild, they reload.
Speaker 14 (02:28:15):
It's next man up. You guys have recruited so well.
Speaker 23 (02:28:18):
It seems like in this day and age of portal
and everybody jumping from one school, the actually all have
done a still a pretty darn good job of maintaining
that depth. And hey, you're not playing much of this year,
but you're gonna play next year and maintaining that two
three man.
Speaker 22 (02:28:31):
Yeah, I don't know about three, but two. I mean,
it's it's it's it's harder than it's ever been before.
You're trying to stack them up, have them in line,
and you know, Wills, we all know in the SEC
it's so brutally you could lose one any time, and
you got to have a second guy ready, and that's
that's that's been a challenge in recent years.
Speaker 8 (02:28:48):
Dylan Bell is a Houston area guy, and I know
he's got He's a guy that's been in your program
for quite some time. Just what's you mean to not
on all your program but also your receiver room.
Speaker 13 (02:28:57):
I love Dyling.
Speaker 22 (02:28:58):
He's a he's a high school running back from Kincaid
and he's just gotten better and better and better. He's
a workman like approach to things, very quiet, leader, great,
great mom. She works with tail Off and she's proud
of him, and you know, he's very talented. He can
do a lot of different things. He's hard to tackle
because he's a big, physical guy. So we're excited to
have him back and hoping he's gonna have a super year.
Speaker 23 (02:29:20):
You got a stud a couple of studs there with you,
see Jallen and Dyalen Everett. I mean it starts on defense,
but I don't know. When I talk to these guys,
they're just tough, hard nosed guys. Seems to be that
pedigree you always have in defensive players.
Speaker 22 (02:29:32):
Yeah, you try to recruit that, but then you try
to train it into him too, So it takes both.
Speaker 13 (02:29:37):
And I've been really proud of those guys.
Speaker 8 (02:29:39):
Do you find in this new age of football where
you like to be a developmental program? You like to
be able to have guys that they know what the
expectations are. Do you see that you have to kind
of adjust the way that you go about things or
is it this is the way we do it.
Speaker 1 (02:29:53):
Either you can do it or you don't.
Speaker 13 (02:29:54):
Well, we always want to be a developmental program. We're
gonna grow guys and get guys better.
Speaker 22 (02:30:00):
I'm very open to change and trying to grow kids
and be more patient now than we used to because
you're really trying to set your depth and create an
advantage for freshman sophomores. By the time they've been there
two years, you better know what you got because.
Speaker 13 (02:30:15):
Otherwise they won't be there for long.
Speaker 23 (02:30:16):
When you got the Georgia, you had to, you know,
hit the ground running and really start to build this thing.
But the success of the program over the years has
it become maybe not an easier sell, but I mean,
is it a little bit easier now with kids they
know what they're getting when you come in, they see
the big g Well, I think you.
Speaker 22 (02:30:32):
Get credibility with the wins, you get credibility with the
national championships. That credibility gets you in the door. But
when they look inside the door, you've got to have
the right things set up.
Speaker 13 (02:30:40):
You know, you have your living room in your dining room.
Speaker 22 (02:30:43):
All decorated the right way. Otherwise it doesn't matter what
you do on the games.
Speaker 1 (02:30:49):
Final one for you.
Speaker 8 (02:30:50):
I know that, as mentioned, we're in Houston and last
year Kamari Laster had a hell of a year for
the Texans and then a guy that I know means
a lot to you, Nick Chubb.
Speaker 1 (02:30:58):
Signing this offt Seale And I mean, I don't know
how much Sundays.
Speaker 8 (02:31:01):
You get to watch, but is it safe to say
you're gonna be watching a few more Houston Texan games?
Speaker 22 (02:31:05):
Absolutely, both sides of the ball. I always want to
get to watch a game. I' might do we have
him my own offense? Do you have him my own defense?
We got somebody on both those. So it's great getting
to watch those guys compete and grow. And Kamari is
such a special kid and meant so much to our program.
Speaker 13 (02:31:19):
And we all know what Nick's done and what he's overcome.
So they're both winners.
Speaker 1 (02:31:23):
Plus Kamar he gets to play for Dimiko too. Thanks guy.
I know you have a lot of respect for.
Speaker 13 (02:31:27):
Him, a lot of respect for Demiko and he does
it the right way man.
Speaker 1 (02:31:30):
For sure.
Speaker 8 (02:31:31):
Again, Coach Kirby Smart join us here at SEC media Days.
Speaker 1 (02:31:34):
Coach really appreciated best of luck this season.
Speaker 13 (02:31:36):
Appreciate you, Thank you guys.
Speaker 4 (02:31:38):
Right after this, the Shawn Salisbury Show continued, you know
one of them at least on his side, but obviously
this is a coaching in general thing.
Speaker 1 (02:31:50):
Didn't you like his line to his question from.
Speaker 8 (02:31:53):
Gordy about you know, you you you're able to go
out with the logo and you know what the program
is reputaeation wise right now. And his answer was, yeah,
you know, it's nice to have all that on the outside,
But then you got to open the door of the
house and you got to make sure that the house
looks good.
Speaker 9 (02:32:08):
Oh, there's no doubt when the house looks good at
what's going on. Not only the house looks good in
literally in the facility and all that because players' eyes
get wide, but also that the house looks good with
wins and and polished up.
Speaker 6 (02:32:21):
And ready to go.
Speaker 9 (02:32:21):
That this is a program that you want to be
a part of. So he gets that. He also gets
the money side of it, and he also gets the
work side of it, how important it is to not
let the wins and losses fast or too long.
Speaker 6 (02:32:34):
He's really really good at his job, for sure.
Speaker 8 (02:32:37):
He is in you know, the local side of it too.
You heard me at the end talk about to Kamari
Lasster Nick Chubb, two guys that he knows really well
from coaching at Georgia.
Speaker 1 (02:32:46):
We know them now.
Speaker 8 (02:32:47):
At least last, we'll get to know Nick Chubb this
season with the Texans, and you know what he said
about Tamiko Ryans, the respect he has for him. But
think about it from Nick Chubb's perspective, and this is
something that maybe I would love to have as a
follow up, is Chubb was there remember Sean at Georgia
when they made it back to the national title for
the first time in a while.
Speaker 1 (02:33:07):
And what are the Texans trying to do.
Speaker 8 (02:33:09):
They're trying to finally get to the championship games AFC
in the Super Bowl as a hole, So I mean
him CJ. Gardner Johnson being brought to the Texans. You know,
we talk about phases of trying to get towards that
goal with the Rockets, doesn't they kind of feel like
the Texans are in that phase now of Hey, let's
bring guys in that know what it's like to be
able to try to play for these things.
Speaker 9 (02:33:30):
Well, not only that, guys who've had success individually in
this league and also have hit some adversity and have
worked their way out of it. And I believe this
that if Nick Chubb and Joe Mixon are fully healthy,
you find me maybe outside of what Detroit they got
(02:33:52):
both their backs right, They kept both their backs are
excuse me, are there? I'm pretty sure? Right yeah, Gibbs
and whom leaving out? Why did I lose my mind about?
Speaker 1 (02:34:02):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (02:34:03):
Dog gone, I was gonna say, you were gonna say Montgomery, Montgomery,
right right right there you go. I think that if
if with those two they're they're pretty good. But if
Mixing and Nick Chubb are healthy, I'd like you to
find me a better one two punch in the league
at that position. And it's not in San Francisco, it's
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not Miami, it's not in Baltimore. They got a real big,
real good there's a lot of them with one real
good back. But find me somebody who the backup guy
would start for most teams went healthy. So Mixing and
Nick Chubb, if Nick Chubb is back to being Nick Chubb,
and he's probably gonna run angry. We already know Mixing
(02:34:44):
doesn't running angry because of you know, the injury and Cleveland.
You know, I don't want to say quit on him,
but moved on from him.
Speaker 1 (02:34:51):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (02:34:52):
This is this is a this is a steal.
Speaker 9 (02:34:55):
We we talked about Mixing coming here last year, excuse me,
and how important it was. This is great because Joe
may not have to get as much load, but still
give you the same production. This is when healthy, in
my opinion, the best one to two punch in football
at that position. Detroit's really good. There's some good ones.
There's nobody better if both these guys are right. I
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think this is a sneaky smart back to back years
of really really good and smart gets by the Texans
when it comes to that position, in a position that
needed addressed over these last couple of years to get
more physical, and they did just that.
Speaker 8 (02:35:33):
It was pretty simple last year, Sean, when Joe Mixon
ran the football and the Texans ran the football, they won.
When he didn't, CJ. Stroud struggled. It really boiled down
to that very simply.
Speaker 6 (02:35:44):
I'm good.
Speaker 9 (02:35:45):
Running back always helps man and it makes everything better
and play action becomes so much more prevalent.
Speaker 1 (02:35:51):
There you go.
Speaker 8 (02:35:52):
You know it's that's gonna do it for us here
today on this Sean Salisbury Show, Dan Matthews, Sean Salisbury, Tripoli,
Emmanuel More of The Matt Thomas Show, with Ross coming
your way right here from ten to two on at
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
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Speaker 3 (00:11):
Salisbury to usc trop longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Sewan Salisbury Show.
Speaker 5 (00:24):
There's a shot to left field and there is the
first home run. That's huge, that is so much pressure?
Is this one in the left center field? And Brent
Rooker hits two for the American League. Karl Ravitch is
San Sea. There's the line drive right center field, then
(00:47):
finds so just got it is so good right there
there is the drive for the Battle of a Rose Arena.
How far does this one go? Shor in the air
center field, headed towards the wall, a dead center of
(01:07):
her swing, and he did.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Shore bas in the All Star Game tied it three man.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
L has rallied in the swing of the.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
Trick O chop House.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
National League takes the night for the three unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (01:32):
Ronda slice as a flatboat to left center field, headed
towards the wall, but sure, and the National League wins
it in the.
Speaker 8 (01:42):
First swing off, the first homer off in Major League
Baseball All Star Game history. And with that would say
away we go in good morning here on the Sean
Salisbury Show. As Sean, last night we saw Kyle Schwarber
hit three home runs, Brent Rooker for the American League
(02:05):
hit two, and Randy or Rose Arena hit one, and
also Josh Kyle Stours for the Marlins with one. But
for all of the possible belly aching that could be.
I mean, at the same time, too, Sean, are we
really making too much of a big deal about it
if we are belly aching? Because it is an All
(02:26):
Star game and frankly, you just wanted to end.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
I look at it different.
Speaker 9 (02:31):
I thought the production in the game was good, and
I'm old school, and man, I thought you told me
yesterday they were wearing uniforms they were their own.
Speaker 8 (02:42):
I thought they were too. Once I got there and
I saw that, I was like, okay, I like this.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Yeah, that's the other thing.
Speaker 9 (02:48):
Man, they're in they're old they're they're doing it the
way that they're supposed to it. Even who was it
it was interviewed, Oh Darren Boone. When he said, yeah,
they were talking about the uniforms, he goes, yeah, you know,
they basically screwed it up for a couple of years.
We're back and everybody should wear their own uniform So
I saw that, I was like, Okay, they did do it,
so they're learning. I and this is I'm hard on
All Star games, and not that anybody cares, but I
(03:10):
for myself, I am, and I think the Major League
Baseball All Star Game is one. Now there's some things
I think the pomp and circumstance of all the I prefer,
although the music getting seeing Luda it was pretty cool.
I mean, had the music, they were pumping, there was
a little rhythm going in the energy in the stadium.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
I loved it, but I still prefer call out.
Speaker 9 (03:30):
All the guys line up third and first baseline to
step out, and you know, some guy steps out there
from Philly, like when schwarbur would have get introduced. They
get they get booed, and they smirk and smile and
touch their cap. I like that part of it. But
in truth, the Hank Aaron stuff for the in the
seventh inning was was phenomenal. That three D whatever that
(03:50):
is that you know, uh what do they call it when.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
You're yeah, hologram stuff?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It was.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
I did, and I'm old school.
Speaker 9 (03:58):
I like I I wish we were still being able
to run through the catcher at home plate. I do
I love that old school stuff when you see the
highlights of Dave Parker, you know, wheeling in right field
and throwing somebody out at third and then turn around
throwing the one at home from previous All Star Games.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
I actually thought the production was good.
Speaker 9 (04:15):
I thought the I thought the uh the electronics, you know,
the did the electronics strike zone. I loved it because
it was urgent. Guys got a smile when they challenge it.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
I did. I had no problem with it, and I'm
old school want.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
The yump, I thought.
Speaker 9 (04:30):
I thought it was it was urgent and they went through.
I had no problem. I actually liked and I don't
like gimmicks and baseball. Ever, I thought the way it ended,
I wouldn't. God, they had no pictures left. It's an exhibition,
so how do you make it thrilling? So you don't
walk off there and it's like I just kissed my sister.
It's nine and we tied. Great comeback by the American League.
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And then the drama of three pitches not you get
a minute where you just keep swinging the clutch part
of three pitches, got hit it out and Schwarber did
what whoever does clutch as hell? Philadelphia toughness and smokes
three out down on one knee.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
I actually liked it. I know, if you're.
Speaker 9 (05:08):
Bitching about it, then sometimes you then you just don't
like some change. I thought that there was elements of
it that, you know, we're a little over the top.
The Hank Aaron thing was awesome. I don't know how
they do all this hologram stuff, but it was.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
It was brilliant.
Speaker 9 (05:23):
I thought that, you know, Smoltz and Joe Davis were fun.
I like guys getting miked up. I'll tell you what,
give me Clayton Kershaw miked up the whole game and
it'll be brilliant awesome because some guys here know, not
real talkative, and they're going, like cal Raley, good dude,
but he's really quiet and he's focused at a job
idole plate. I kind of liked that schooble. They're talking
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in the middle, I mean, Kershaw's winding up. Hey, Smoltz,
what do you want you? I don't throw a cutter?
I mean in his wind up Smolty, what are you talking?
I don't throw a cutter. I mean for watching that.
I loved it, and they it's an all starting experiment.
Some of the give I think you can, you can
adjust things. But in truth and the way it ended,
you had to play three guys that were were still
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playing at the end of the game. You can't go
back and give me Judge and Otani. It was cool.
It was three. You know you probably of the six
guys Schwarber, well two of them and one of them
didn't get to the plate in you know, in uh
the Polar Bear. But because of Schwarber's you know, bingo
banngo bongo home runs, I decided that the fellas were
out of the dugout, up off the steps, fired up
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for a guy you're going to compete with now starting
on Friday again, I thought it was for me and
my liking. I thought you got good performances. I thought
you had some some some really really good swings of
the bat. And I'm gonna tell you what, man, we
we have every guy on the planet seems to pump
it ninety nine or better ninety watching these cats one
O three, one O two, And I get why that
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Mark Fidrich stuff with the kid from Milwaukee was.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Why am I losing my mind? The young kid who
made it?
Speaker 9 (06:56):
Yeah, exactly, he I mean pumping at one O two
one with a big old smile on his face. Looked
like he belongs at a in an Acne commercial at
sixteen years old talking about high school.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
I'm sending up.
Speaker 9 (07:09):
Pete crow Armstrong looks like he belongs on the Baseball
Show with the guy the kids with the Babe Ruth Baseball.
You know, the old school Baseball Show. What's where they
hit in the backyard and the dog's back there and
James Earl Jones' knows Babe Bruce. Yeah, the Sandlight. I
just watched it two days ago, Sandlot. That guy looked
like he belonged on that team. Pete crow Armstrong looks.
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I mean, we had a taste of young kids of
veterans like Schwarber, of Kershaw getting in there and then
pulling him out at the right time, Dave Roberts making
sure Freeman got his I thought there was elements of
it that were awesome. I did, and the comeback it
was just to me, if we're not gonna get old school,
let's at least do something that keeps it going. And
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while I don't like gimmicks, I thought the end of
the game that was great and.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
The way it ended, Are you kidding me?
Speaker 9 (07:58):
Down on one knee and Schwarber pumps it into this
and then you got to come up with the guy
you would have never chosen had he had not been
in the game. At the end, I ran and bam,
pumps won two feet from the top of the wall.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
That ties.
Speaker 9 (08:10):
I mean, what was not to like about that part
of it? There was a thrill and the guys had
a smile on their face when they challenged the call,
the call on a Rosa rain and didn't even get
to swing the bat earlier, and smiling and standing at
home plate.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
I did. I liked it.
Speaker 9 (08:24):
I thought it was a good All Star game, and
I thought that some of the additions Rob Manford's made
a lot of dumb decisions, but he did some he
did some good things. And I was impressed with the broadcast.
I was, and I liked the game, and I like
how they ended it without going to extra innings, which
normally I'd say, play fifteen of them, who cares, well,
what are you going to do? Start throwing third basement
and have them pitch? So I thought the managers got
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the guys in they needed to, and I thought it
was a really, really good execution of a game and
getting everybody a look, and the ballpark was rocking.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Loved it.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
I did, yeah, as me and Gordy were leaving the ballpark,
because we did leave it a little bit or to
get back, you know. I mean, obviously I got to
wake up early, and you know, we've got long day
ahead here in Atlanta.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
But I see you off the distance, I see.
Speaker 8 (09:08):
Lightning strikes and I'm like, oh man, I wonder if
that's coming this way, and Gordy goes, would they delay it?
I go, I don't even know if they put the
tarp on the field, Gordy. I think if it happened,
they would just say, hey, sorry, everybody go home, We're
done for this year.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (09:22):
But they didn't. That's the great thing. You got to
see it. And my dumb ass stayed up and watched
the whole thing. Tell late, I mean getting up in
three throw like you said, what what the hell am
I doing? But I didn't go and say why did
I stay up and watch that? I mean, you needed
three from shore ra It was just back comebacks on
both sides. I thought it was awesome. And then watching
these young pitchers and veterans like if you throw ninety five,
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you're a You're a bum arm It's crazy. I mean,
kershaw kid about he is like, oh man, what'd I
do throwing at ninety? Would I do really ramp it up?
Or whatever he said to ninety one miles an hour?
I mean, these guys, I mean, And there were so
many good stories about thirty years old and playing in
his first All Star give you know, moved around by
five or six teams, and he's playing in his first game.
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And this kid's twenty one, twenty Pete crow Armstrong. It
looks like he's got forty years to play. Doesn't even
know the he can't. I look at him, I think, dude,
can you can you actually walk into a bar? I mean,
And then you think about how brilliant some of these
players are. Tucker's catching left field. The competitiveness comes out,
but I felt like there were smiles on there now.
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Just as much as I'm not a big home run
Derby fan, the way they do it was I was
a fan because I was expecting, Oh gosh, I'm gonna
this is gonna be one. I'm gonna turn it off
in the third inning. I was actually into it, So
I think they did a good job, and I think
the players are going to their next city feeling like
overall it was a hell of a good one. We
got some good young players. Every year I see him.
You know, what's one thing the why they haven't. I
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look at Milwaukee and think, how have they won two
or three World Series?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Dude?
Speaker 9 (10:50):
Does anybody produce more power arms or in their organization?
I mean, you go to Milwaukee, you better be able
to throw a hundred, or you just don't. You don't belong.
I mean it's been going on for years. Another arm,
another arm, another arm. They've always have and they're on
a roll too. So now we get to look to
the second half. I thought it was a really really
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fun game and uh, some really talented future players, but
also we got some we got some veterans that are
cagey and hanging around and and good on Kyle Schwarber.
He got that baseball bat for the m v P,
you know that that see through bat or whether his
silver bat, whatever it was. Does he get does he
get a vehicle? Did they cheap it up this year
that doesn't he get a or is that just the
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World Series MVP? Because I thought I thought there was
always like a car behind them that they got to
you know, they got a trophy and that like the
bat and then all of a sudden, say, hey man,
you get your new you know, GMC whatever it is
or Chevy or whatever, whoever's doing the sponsoring and is
sitting behind him and they hand him the keys. I
kind of I thought, well, is there is there another
award coming? They're not They're not going on the cheap,
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are they? I mean the tariffs hitting them too, but
just joking, you know, but it was a what was
going on and thinking who's going to be the MVP?
And initially I thought it was going to be Rooker,
you know, and he may be after he homered again
because he hit the three run job to get their
scoring started. And then Schwarber goes Bengo bang go bongo.
And the excitement of the teammates, that's my favorite thing
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about it. The laughs and the excitement of the teammates
when the buddies are celebrating, and you know, young kids
that came in the league begging to hang around Clayton
Kershaw like who's this cat? You know, even the schemes,
these great pitchers and then turn around and watching Kershaw
have as much energy as a twenty year old last night,
and then the way Dave Roberts took him out at
the right time, got a couple outs and brought him
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out and let him play to an applause. I'm telling
you now, Clayton Kershaw will not forget that last night.
You could tell even if Freddy Freeman coming back there.
I love the emotion now when people ask me, well,
what do you care about the All Star Gamer?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Why go?
Speaker 6 (12:50):
That's why why go? Well, that's why some of these.
Speaker 9 (12:53):
Cats that made it their first time may not make
it again, especially a veteran. You know, a pitcher that's
been a journeyman and all of a sudden now he's
close in for the San Diego Padres with the and
it's like, damn, I don't know. That's why you go
to talk to Clayton Kershaw to watch these guys get
because you know what, you don't get that in real life.
They don't stand in ovation when you walk out of
a building it in office, Okay, you just don't get that.
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And so that's why if you're ever questioned players, hey man,
you had to stay home and get yourself rested. An allstarright,
no rest, if you're not going to play, get your
ass to the game and see Clayton Kershaw will remember
this as a phenomenal moment in his career because why
his peers were sitting there in awe of his career
and they got to recognize it in an All Star
game from a distance. It's one thing, but they got
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to give him dap and high five and he got
to have some energy.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Strike a guy out. That's why you go.
Speaker 9 (13:44):
So if ever your question is a player out there
and you got and and you can't play in the game,
or you're tired, okay, fake a hamstring, but get your
ass to the All Star Game and rest there in
the dugout with the fellas. That's why you go. I
thought it was it was a I thought it was
a damn good All Star game. We got a bunch
of home runs, which we haven't had in an All
Star game in a minute, So it was it was
a cool go and uh baseball tip of the hat.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
And I love the energy and I love the way
it ended. I thought it was great.
Speaker 8 (14:11):
Yeah, and you know you probably got Pete Alonzo out
there too. That's like, hey, wait a minute, you know,
my three run homer. Did that not count for something?
But then Kyle Schwarber said, yeah, man, just hold on there.
But uh, the localle two to this is number one.
The al had one pitcher left.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
It was Josh Hater. Yeah, so I'm sure.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
I'm sure Joe a Spota especially too. Was it Corby
and Carrol that.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
Got hit on the hand and then he it was
who hit on the hand? Was yeah, genial size?
Speaker 9 (14:40):
Yeah, yeah, so I mean he and then he goes
in next a brilliant play the next inning at third base,
a one handed stab on the run that the Machado
play and throws him out.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
So go ahead and finish.
Speaker 9 (14:50):
Yeah, when he got hit, you were talking about your
reasoning for yeah, when you talk about getting hit her yeah,
oh you're talking about the Astros.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
It didn't play right.
Speaker 8 (14:59):
Right, Yeah, So I mean, you know, that's one of
those where as a manager it's like, all right, hey,
you know, put my players, you know they're there the
rest of their season in your hands right here. And
I'm sure probably Tory Lavello right there was like, oh man,
no way, he just got one of my guys hurt.
We're trying to make a push trying to avoid trading
guys away. But you mentioned the Hank Aaron tribute Mile
Hamilton on the call when he was working here in Atlanta,
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they played that and he had Vince Scully part of it.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Of course.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Yeah, they put him both on there.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
It was awesome, cool, Dan.
Speaker 9 (15:28):
You know, I remember I watched that game live on
television because I was in California. And why I remember
Al Downing and you know who caught that ball? You
know who caught that ball in the in the bullpen?
Was it Burton Tom House? Tomhouse, Nolan Ryan's guy. And
when he was at the Texas Rangers, he used to
play catch with Nolan Ryan with the football. And now
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Tom House is like the biomechanics guy in California that
everybody goes to for for mechanics, and it's in la
I think it might even be on my campus. I
think it's at least he's got something, you know, spends
a lot of time us.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
See.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
Tom House was that guy I'll never forgive. When they
had the temporary wall above the other one just in
front of it and the bullpens behind it, and you
could I see through wall. It was like a little glass,
you know, you know, a plexiglass fence in the left field.
I'll never forget it. I was watching as a young
kid on television because we used to get Angels and
Dodgers games and Vince Scully and you know, Dick Enberg,
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and so I remember watching it because the excitement around
Hank Aaron and baseball was everything to me growing up. Well,
and I'll never forget Tom House caught it. I believe
he caught it on the fly in the bullpen and
then the guys coming out in the field. But I
thought the way they handled it was was awesome. In
here and Milo and then Vin Scully make the call.
The production was really good. And I do I don't.
I like human air, but man alive. I kind of
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like the anticipating and how quickly they turned around the
strike zone call and guys would smirk and get off.
I think that's going to be a fun one to
find out where we're going with that. But for All Star,
as all Star games go, this this the NBA and
NFL turn around, put your tail between your legs and
walk away. You no shot to compete until you change
things or get rid of it. That's the best All
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Star game in the world and hockey second. The other
two are non existent, and they make no mistake about that.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Now tons of fun.
Speaker 8 (17:12):
And another thing too with that moment is the footage
they showed, like you said, the hologram everything, because mostly
we see that, you know, NBA games, the final four,
we'll use that with the on court kind of you know,
all of the presentation that they have there. But Craig Sager,
you know, obviously he left us a few years ago,
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but Craig Sager, a young cub reporter. You see him there,
not in the flashy suits, but at least as Hank
was joined by his teammates, you see a young Craig
sit right thereby.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yep, just just legends all over this thing.
Speaker 10 (17:48):
Man.
Speaker 9 (17:48):
I loved it, Man, I did. And like I said,
I'm kind of hard. It's like okay, And I went
in with a kind of a we'll see. And I
was pleasantly surprising. I think there was.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
If you're going to.
Speaker 9 (17:58):
Stay up that lake to watch it, and you gotta
get up early the next day, give me some wow factor.
And boy did they ever coming from behind. And then
Schwarber answering the call, and and Alto not even gets
to hold his bat, doesn't even have to swing, so
maybe he wanted to, but soever was like, hey man,
let's just go see yeah, and they were all a
little nervous, but hey, you cut it loose and they
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had fun. That's when an All Star gave is fun.
Nobody gets hurt and we have a fun game. And
then if you're gonna have gimmicks and home run off,
that's the way you do it.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
And it was was brilliant. I loved it last night.
It was really good.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
Yeah, tons of fun. Jason, see right there. Get you
involved in the conversation. You want to join them? Someone
three two one two five seven ninety. Once again, that's
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Speaker 1 (18:42):
The show as well.
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At seven twenty are uh yeah, actually excuse me? Seven
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Formerly of the Dallas Cowboys, he is now in charge
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Kirby Smart with a lot of local ties. We'll hear
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from him as he is going to join us at
nine fifteen. But we're just getting started here on a
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Speaker 9 (19:27):
With some wind and scattered rain throughout. It will be
soft at times, the greens and it's going to be
a hell of a one because I think most golfers,
I mean, it's where golf started, and you know, and
obviously in Scotland, but you know, on the other side
of the pond. And they atay Ram said it's the
most important major you talk about. Rory said, this is,
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you know, even bigger is what I had circled, even
more so than ever, even more than the Masters this year.
And he was going for that, and I know it
means it to you know, probably and even America. The
reverence that Scottie Scheffler has for the Open and just
the way you got to play it different.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
That's why I like it about this. It makes it different.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
You just can't bring the course to its knees because
you can hit the ball country mile just like our
pictures seemed to everybody seems to throw one hundred ninety
eight ninety nine. Everybody seems if you're hitting it two
ninety five, you're nowhere near the top fifty. And driving
distance too, I mean those guys. But if you can
hit it there, if you can hit irons, the team
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last time that was played there, I think it was
Shane Lowry who wanted at this golf course. Obviously he's
a Northern Ireland guy, so it's from right around a corner,
this is where this one is. I think during the
week those four days he hit more greens than anybody.
So if you don't hit greens, you can't win there,
and unless you're putting out of your friggin mind, But
it won't be the driving distance that wins it. It'll
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be driving accuracy and hitting shots that hold greens and
you can make it. And while it's beautiful, the water
doesn't come into play on the golf course, but the
visuals are about as good as Pebble Beach too, So
it's going to be it's gonna be fun to watch
and if you want creative, you're gonna see stuff that
I if if it dries and it's not wet and
dry there, and I'm the reason I did.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
It's weird, it's fair. I feel like I'm gonna be
on the broadcast like to.
Speaker 9 (21:10):
Study and I'm gonna play it right, but I'll bet
it and I can't wait to watch it. But you're
gonna see guys putting from way off the green.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Like you did at the Scottish Open last week.
Speaker 9 (21:20):
But you're gonna see guys hitting irons like like running
them up and you're saying, there's no way, and it's
gonna roll for forty five or fifty yards and it's
gonna roll onto the green and off or on. Creativity
for this, you're gonna have to be far more creative
here than you are on any US course. So this
is gonna be fun to watch and kind of the
way golf was supposed to be. Just because you're a
long hitter, you don't get to bring the course to
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its knees because you'll find yourself in a pot bunker
and you're you're you're getting one of those deep bunkers.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
You have to play out backwards at times. So I
can't wait to see it.
Speaker 12 (21:48):
Man.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
I love I love everything about this tournament. And some
of the guys in the dress I watched, you know
with my guy Jason Why am I Jason Day who
wears that Malbourne stuff. The bagyar closed and he had
a cool outfit on on one of the practice ons, Like, okay,
I can hear the bagpipes already, So I'm looking forward
to it. Man, I'm looking forward to the second half
of baseball. But it's a good start. When you wake
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up tomorrow morning and the British opens in full swing.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
The long hitters not the ones to play this week,
so the Dalai Lama really doesn't have much of a chance,
I guess.
Speaker 9 (22:19):
Unless, of course, you're a long hitter and that thing
lands in the fairway and you know how to be
creative around the greens because you can hit it in
a fairway. But if you can't put or hit greens
even from the fairway, trouble. But creativity and the ability
to be patient. Because he makes six pars, you may
gain on somebody. He makes six bars in a row.
It's going to be going to be difficult in depending
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on the conditions, but it'll be a fun watch.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
It definitely will.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
Did we lose Dan there?
Speaker 10 (22:48):
Uh?
Speaker 13 (22:49):
Yeah, I think he must have disconnected somehow.
Speaker 9 (22:52):
Well, we will and we'll get back. We get We'll
take a little break here. It's perfect timing. If he's
going to go out, perfect timing. It is Sports Talk
seven ninety. You'll be right back in whiz. We'll get
that technologies. Hey, so way it works all right, we'll
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what George is doing and how they're approaching this season,
because man, if you look at the opening day of
the season, look at the schedule, it is epic. We'll
discuss that throughout. Jason will get to you. It is
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Speaker 9 (24:52):
Maybe that's the one thing that the theatrics in a
little bit over ambitious with the ad where it's like
too much. Maybe for some they just want to get
to baseball a little old school, but there are some
who love all the pomp and circumstance and goes with it.
But I thought, all in all, the game wise and
the and I don't know about the electronics strikes on
what you felt, but I really it was. I thought
it was once the game started, I thought it was
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a hell of a watch.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
It really was. And that was elite crooning.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
Remember how we talked about that numerous times, Zach Brown
and his band, And remember what I told you too,
Sean Is. During my time here in Atlanta, it was
known if it's a big game, oh was surprise Zach
Brown and the Zach Brown Band singing the national anthem
much like klay Walker in Houston. If it's a big
game in Houston, well then Klay Walker is gonna be
singing the national anthem.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
Yeah, it's like Jeffrey Osbourne with a lake. I mean
it was Jeffrey Osbourne. I mean it's always singing. When
I was going, they'd have the you know, the national
anthem reform the same way at the at the Fabulous
Forum back in the day. So yeah, I uh, I
thought the I love a capella national anthem, so all
in all, but the game, the approach once the game started,
I thought it was pretty damn good man.
Speaker 14 (25:58):
It was impressive.
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going this morning, Jason, good morning.
Speaker 15 (26:09):
What an excellent All Star game. I like the changes
and everything that they did, the uniforms as well. I
mean it kind of got that old school feel that
that Hain't Aaron moment was just phenomenal. And I know
years ago they was gonna do a tribute for him
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whenever it was supposed to go there the first time,
but I don't think it would have been as special
as last night. The special effects and everything else. I mean,
I grew up in Southeast Louisiana and that's pretty much
all we watched down there on TBS. And I'm an
old school guy, so I could remember taking BCR tapes
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and just recording special moments and every time they played
that or every time they had a rain out, we
just pick a tape and put it in. And that's
just one of those moments that I just wish still
stood the record itself. And that's not as stab at
Barry Bonds. I know the game changed differently, but back then,
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the way baseball was played, you know, it was just traditional.
It was old school. If you was out, he was out.
There was no challenges. And just watching that moment last night,
you know, and the way that they played it out,
you know, I'm sitting there watching it with the kids,
and I could just sit there and remember me and
my grandpa just sitting in front of the TV watching
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that moment, watching they hit you know, like you said,
the calling of the game when Vince Scully was I mean,
it's just moments like that. You just you love to
see it when it comes back, and you love how
they played it, and I just I even commented on
one of Dan's posts last night, and that's just the
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moment that I still love watching and I love what
they did.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Man, the ball.
Speaker 15 (28:00):
Going in the air, the three D effect where you know,
the scoreboard saying seven fifteen. It is like, it's just
just the way they did. It was great. Man, it
was a great game all around.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
All right. Appreciate the call, Jason.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
I mean, Sean, I was here in twenty twenty one
when it was supposed to be here the first time,
and it was building up because remember that was the
year that Hank died, so he had passed away before
the season, and you know what he means around here.
But they were going to make the entire game a
huge celebration of his life. And then, of course Major
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League Baseball deciding to move out because of political pressure
and then returning a couple of years later. But at
least his wife, Billy was there, a lot of his
family was there to be able to see that moment.
And I know that on Monday when the teams were
going through their warm ups, they had everybody wearing number
forty fours.
Speaker 9 (28:57):
Yeah, it's just it's phenomenal. I mean, the guy, I
think he's the most and hear me when I say this,
and we know and I love that they had the
quote that he's known as a great baseball player, but
even a better man when he had said that in
an interview a while back. I think Hank Aaron maybe
the most underrated baseball player of all time. Now, when
you say, say, how Sean look at his numbers? Look
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at when you look at Hank Aaron's numbers. The dude
was in twenty five All Star Games. Twenty five So
that tells you how long he played and what he
had to overcome in the race department and dealing with
that and still in thriving and playing all those years.
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So he was durable, played a long time and a
great stat last night. Take away all his home runs.
Do you realize he still has three thousand hits and
that's that's seven hundred plus home runs. So and that
never gets talked to. That's exactly right. Well, look at
his walks. His numbers is run scored. When we say
who are the best players of all time? He's the oh,
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that's right guy, and he shouldn't be. But that's why
I think he's You say, how's a guy that good? Underrated? Well,
go through it. You'll people say Babe, Ruth, Willie, Mays
and Otani and Trout, and then you'll roll through you know,
the the the DiMaggio's and Mantles, and you'll, I mean you'll,
you'll get you'll, you'll just start rolling through the great player.
Judges numbers square up as far as all time, and
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Judge is having a triple crown here, one of the
great hitters, right handed hitters, with his the way he's
adjusted now he's sitting for average and home runs. I mean,
you go through Stan usual Ted Williams, you start rolling.
We start naming the best players of all time, and
it's always Mays and Ruth, Barry Bonds. You start going
down the list, and then you get to about fit. Oh,
that's right, that's right, it's it's Henry erin No. When
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you really look at his impact and what he's done
and what he had to overcome, he's the most underrated
baseball player, in my opinion, of all time.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
And I just I.
Speaker 9 (30:57):
It's a it's a bummer it got delayed, but I'm
glad it went back there, and I'm glad they did
what they did. And he has not only beloved in Atlanta,
but all over the country, and what a player, what
a gentleman, what a moment it was last night, and
what a career. He's underrated he is when he took
to the best, he'll people who start rolling and it's like, yeah,
they'll throw Roberto Clemente in and white rightfully. So I
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mean you can go around all that see all the
great players, and then you get to, dude, are you
forgetting Henry.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Oh that's right, Hank Aaron, Yeah, he's that good.
Speaker 9 (31:27):
So tremendous, tremendous career and All Star Game did a
nice job recognizing that last night.
Speaker 8 (31:34):
And you know, I mean it's a great point by
you of the fact that he had three thousand plus hits.
So you're like, okay, how is that not talked about
a little bit more? And then I mean, you're not wrong.
You know, we always mentioned you know, Ruth Mantle, you
know more of the you know, modern age guys that
we mentioned more as you mentioned you know, Barry Bonds,
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Ken Grippy, junior guys like that, and it's like, no,
you probably need to mention Hank Karen a little bit more.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
It's it's true.
Speaker 9 (32:02):
I mean, it's really crazy how we kind of just
blow by it. But it's I don't know why. Maybe
because he was not a big self promoter. You know,
Hank Aaron played at a time where it was on
one channel, you know, I mean it just you know,
whether it's TV a coup, right, and it's just And
like I said, he wasn't a big self promoter to
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twenty five All Star games. I mean it's sick and
just to approach it with class. And have you ever
heard anybody say they don't like Hank Aaron A gentleman,
a gentleman right everything?
Speaker 6 (32:33):
I mean, who doesn't like and love Hank Aaron?
Speaker 9 (32:37):
And then they carrying the burden around of halving the
deal when you walk into a ballpark of people calling
you names that they shouldn't call you at any point
that should never come out anybody's mouth towards anybody, and
you had to listen to that and then still go
hit all those And it's not often guys hit seven
home runs and still get three thousand plus hits that
aren't home runs. I mean, so apply the power and
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the average. Just a phenomenal career for a guy who,
by all accounts was being an incredible gentleman as well,
I always like it, but I think he and if
you took the most underrated player from each sport, all
time great from each sport, that becomes the Oh that's right,
that guy, Hank Aaron would represent baseball in my opinion,
as the most underrated player in baseball history with those
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numbers and what he's done and his durability and longevity
and performance and production and what he handled off the field.
I don't know how you don't he's not a top
ten player of all time. I don't know how we
leave him out.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, it definitely needs to be.
Speaker 9 (33:35):
And I'm probably cheating him by saying, hi, top ten.
I'm probably cheating him by saying top ten. In truth
should probably move him up to the top five. Yeah,
I was gonna say five or three. Yeah, him, Ruth Bonds,
that Barry Bonds is as good as I've seen. And
we're going to be talking about Otani the same way
if this continues. So yeah, man, it's it's what an
honor it was to watch him play, But I'm sure
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what an honor it was for some of those guys
to be his teammates.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Pretty cool, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 8 (34:02):
And you know, a couple of other things from the
All Star Game that stood out last night.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
We'll get into on the other side.
Speaker 8 (34:07):
Also, you want to join us sebon one three two
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Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Let the celebration start more Seawn Salisbury, It's a Sean
Salisbury show.
Speaker 8 (34:34):
So remember a couple of years ago when the satellite
camps craze hit college football, and you had some coaches
and commissioners and people out there saying, you can't go
around the country, you know, hosting these camps and allow
for all of these kids to be there and college
coaches can be there, Like that's that's a recruiting advantage.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
You can't do that.
Speaker 8 (34:54):
And it happened for about one year and then they
were like, all right, if you're gonna do these, you
gotta do them on your campus all that kind of stuff. Well, anyway,
Jim Harbaugh was the guy that was the biggest proponent
of it, and he was going all over the country.
He was coming here to Atlanta, he was going to Florida,
he was going to Texas, he was going to California,
wherever it was. And he would invite other coaches. I mean,
he left it open and was like, hey, you want
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to show up, you can be here. And that's fine,
it's all good. But we get out there to try
to get Harball to talk about it and get there,
and funny enough, the guy that I ran into first
was Jed Fish and I knew that he was his
top lieutenant at the time, and I just.
Speaker 9 (35:30):
Asked, Hey, Michigan and he's not ahead Kachia University of Washington.
Speaker 8 (35:35):
Yea, he is, and uh, of course, you know, he
and Jim had an interesting moment pre draft with Jameis Winston.
You don't know what I'm talking about, go look it up.
So they said he's in the school. So and he
said he's into school with Hank Aaron And I'm like, what.
So go in there and there's like this little small auditorium,
I guess, and it's kind of like a panel style
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of Jim Harball, Hank cam and Andrew Young civil rights
civil rights icon. They're talking, you know, just about Atlanta,
growing up in the South, everything like that. And you
see Harball sitting there wearing a Hank Aaron jersey as
he's just kind of like a like a little kid
soaking it all in and listening to Hank Aaron talk about,
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you know, what it was like to grow up in
and to have the career that he did and the
stories of his career, everything of the sorts. So just
kind of ties into everything that we saw last night,
especially the tribute.
Speaker 9 (36:31):
They had no doubt about it, and that's I'm sure
that the folks of Atlanta, and when it came on,
it was like, Okay, what are they doing here? And
then boom the light and having Hank Aaron and the voices,
and it just I thought the production it felt like
that thing had been planned for two years.
Speaker 6 (36:47):
I mean that particular.
Speaker 9 (36:49):
I know this has been planned to have a tribute,
but I mean particular, just the way they did it.
I'm intrigued with all that technology and the way they
do that. It's pretty amazing to me. They brought it
to life and it was pretty special. So yeah, it
was And I understand if you're if you like it's crazy,
but I baseball history hits me harder than any other sport.
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History in basketball will be second. I know the history
of those better. If i've I've been more intrigued with it.
And baseball history has always intrigued me just because I
like old ballparks and I wish it would have and
I wish we had a way to go back and
play a game at the Polo Grounds if it was
still like we do it the you know, the the
Field of Dreams. It'd be great if the old ballparks,
you go back to old Tiger State, if they were
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you know, if the the Astrodome go back to old
ballparks and play a series in these ballparks like the
old school UH leagues did and baseball back in the day.
I want to know where where you know where Ted
Williams hit his ball at the Polo Grounds or an
old ballpark. I just those things are kind of cool.
And when you see a Hank Aaron tribute and it's
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in the South and it's in Atlanta, it makes you
think about, you know, the old launching pad in Atlanta
Fulton County Stadium. Just a lot of cool stuff and
if you love it, and hardball is a historian of
a lot of sports and he loves it too, just
the intrigue and the history of it. Be nice to
sit down if you could bring them all back to life,
to Ted Williams and Henry Aaron's and those guys and
talk about those round tables I always talk about having.
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Wouldn't be cool to be able to have a you know,
the hologram where you're sitting there and interviewing. I mean,
you could anticipate what their answer would be or bring
them back. If we could just have another hour with
them to two hours to sit down and talk hitting
with Williams and overall what Hank Aaron went through, just
how it applies to now, it'd be really cool. I
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love the history of baseball and I love the history
of our of what our players went through to get here.
And you know, I was thinking, look at it, Bob
Gibson in his season, like was it sixty eight or something,
he had like twenty five. He had twenty five complete
games that year. That year, not in his career. That
season he had twenty five complete games. So I'm just like,
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I wish we could get that roundtable with people that
have passed away. I wish we con go back and
redo it. I wish somebody would have get ten of
the best players in the world around and talk for
three hours and roll camera and imagine if you could
have that in the in the archives, how coould that be?
Speaker 13 (39:11):
So?
Speaker 9 (39:11):
Yeah, I love tributes to the old school leagues and
old school players. I think it's important history of its
fam If you know, you can't be an expert, if
you don't know the history, you just can't.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
You almost no, you just can't.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
I'm not any of us.
Speaker 9 (39:25):
In order to be something where you can talk, you've
got to understand the history. You can't just be a
baseball person that start at two thousand and say, you know,
even if you were born in two thousand, you want
to be the guys soon the Tim Kirkchins of the world.
You got to go back and watch and study what
you can. So it's pretty impressive.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
I love it.
Speaker 8 (39:42):
You almost wonder if one day AI is can he
get so good that we're gonna have like a pr handler. Hey,
do you guys want to talk to you know, bebe
Ruth's Ai, And do you want to talk with you know,
Bob Gibson's Ai.
Speaker 9 (39:55):
Yeah, if I could get the same answers, even though
I would if we got the capability to do that
and you could anticipate an answer when you ask Hank Aaron,
what was it like to play baseball when you had
to go through that? Or Jackie Robinson absolutely absolutely, Babe Ruth,
what if you'd have been in great shape? What would
it have been different? Would you do over you? Would
you pitch instead of hit? You know, all the things
that you'd want to ask him? And who was a
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tough I want to know from Bob Gibson, who was
the toughest guy he ever faced. I want to know
from Willie Mays if he thinks he was the best
player of all time all those things, and who was
the toughest he played. I felt like there was a
great camaraderie too with the old school players. I did,
but they also knew the competition. They would really they
competed and want to beat your brains in, but they
also went out and had a beer after. I just
wonder how many opponents are doing that in pro sports.
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The camaraderie. I know you have it with your own team,
but you know you are you really enjoying because it
goes fast.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
Man he goes fan.
Speaker 9 (40:47):
Some of those guys you saw last night may never
be in another All Star Game some of them.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
It's just the fact. And we got to enjoy.
Speaker 9 (40:53):
Clayton Kershall for his last All Star Game, you know,
unless something changes and he decides not to.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
But what an incredible career for him as well.
Speaker 8 (41:01):
Yeah, that that pretty much the little send off that
Dave Roberts game right there. That that's toes move. Yeah, yeah,
that's that's gonna be it for Clayton Kershaw. This is
it like this is the final year. So no, it
was a fun night all the way around.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Me and Gord. You're in the building for it, and we'll.
Speaker 8 (41:16):
Talk a little bit more about that as the show
goes along this morning. Don't forget too, got a lot
of guests coming your way here on the show today.
Here in about forty five minutes, Drew Fabianich from the
Senior Bowl, the new director of that game, going to
join us at.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Seven forty five.
Speaker 8 (41:32):
SEC Commissioner Greg Sankei at eight twenty, and then Kirby
Smart dropping by the table yesterday. We will talk to
him and hear from him at nine fifteen.
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It will be All Star game, ends in a homer
off National League for three winners over the American League.
Sauce Gardner, according to reports, now the highest paid cornerback
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one of the Open Championship starts tomorrow morning from Royal Port,
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seven one three two one two five seven ninety and Sean,
you know obviously with me and Gordy who Gordy will
hop back on with us again tomorrow morning. Being in
the building last night for the All Star Game. We're
here at the College Football Hall of Fame for SEC
Media Days, and do apologize for you know, we're talking
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about AI in the last segment in technology deciding that
it was on a union job and it needed it's
fifteen minutes to be able to take a break. So
as I was throwing to break a couple of segments ago,
that's when the Internet decided to say, yeah, hey guys,
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I'm gonna go for some coffee really quick.
Speaker 9 (43:37):
Yeah, well, take your time to do it. And sometimes
technology can work in your favor. It's a coffee and
restroom break. We had going right to break. We had
it handled all good here, man. That's where that's when
two people are apart. That's what happens when you have
a studio. Sometimes it happens here. We just got to adjust.
So how you adapt and adjust, which you did at
the Hall of Fame, good thing.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
That's that's it.
Speaker 8 (43:56):
You know, Hey, just be a good teammate, Sean. You
definitely you prove that you're a great teammate. So I
do appreciate that very much. But last night, though, is
mentioned me and Gordy being at the game and we
did get to see history. I mean, we weren't there
in person for the homer off, but we were there
as the kind of where were you when this happened
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for the very first ABS challenge in a game, And
that was something leading up to this game that was
talked about. They were going to try it out in
the All Star Game see how it works, and Trek
Scouble against Manny Machada was the first one to tap
the top of his head, or actually I think first
it was cal Raley that did it, and then Schoolbale
was like, yeah, I check that out, and Sean it
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was all of like twenty seconds for them to check
it out.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
It's kind of like tennis, is it enter it out?
Speaker 8 (44:45):
And you know they show the ball either you know,
hitting the line, going around the line, whatever it might be.
And in this case right here, it was incredibly quick,
incredibly efficient.
Speaker 14 (44:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:56):
I don't like.
Speaker 9 (44:58):
All the time it takes to get the I mean,
we take a headset as sooner we especially with balls
and strikes.
Speaker 6 (45:03):
I like to get it right.
Speaker 9 (45:04):
But I also I do think we're fallible in sports,
and sometimes it's like okay, it's here, we have human
air everything. People miss shots, the players miss them, the
you know, the referee misses them, the umpire misses them,
and so that's just part of baseball was pretty good
when we didn't have replay. And baseball was pretty good
when we you know, when the bases were normal, when
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it was well baseball, like we all played it growing up.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
It was, it was pretty good.
Speaker 9 (45:29):
And I don't know why there wasn't a lot of
changes needed, if you want my opinion, I mean, upgrading
facilities and all that.
Speaker 6 (45:35):
But the way it was was, you.
Speaker 9 (45:36):
Know, ninety feet sixty feet six inches on the mound
and let's play some baseball and get after it. But
as you go along, you got to make adjustments and adapt,
as we just said. So I don't mind changes as
long as the gimmicks aren't. You know, playing flag football
at a tackle football team, it's to me, it's like, okay,
you can do that at your fraternity league in the
offseason or when you retire. But with this, I I
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never knew if I'd like it or not. And man,
you want to listen to somebody kiss and ask to
be almost as a begging begging for a Hall of
Fame invite. Alex Rodriguez is pandering and asked kissing of
Rob Manford in his video about the strikes and pre
gallon fox or whatever. You know, he was being interviewed
by I can't remember who was interviewing him before, but
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it showed him be an interviewed from his hotel room.
Maybe he was on MLB earlier or Foxer, I don't remember.
But I love Rob Manford. And he told us how
much he loved Rob Manford, and he said Rob Manford
should be in the Hall of Fame. I mean he
started rolling and by the time he got to his
point about the electronics strike zone and he was anxious
to see it, he had slobbered all over Rob Manford
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all over the place and everybody in the world knows why. Okay,
he was like and Rob Manford did some good things
last night. He's had some rough times too as the commissioner,
as we all know. So I'm not ready to put
him in the Hall of Fame just yet. But man alive.
You want to talk about panned, pandering, pandering, but I digress.
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But you want to talk about the greatest ass kiss
job in the world. A Rod executed that yesterday before
the game. But the point of hopefully what he was
trying to get to instead of brown nosing Rob Manford
because he had pressure to do this. It was that
we'll see if it works, and you know what, it
got it right. Every time he went to it. You
could even see just how much it brushed on certain pitches.
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I liked that it came back urgently. And I normally,
you know, don't like change to baseball.
Speaker 6 (47:30):
That's just me.
Speaker 9 (47:31):
Other sports I get, I just don't. But with this,
I didn't know if I was in on it. I
am in on it because there was not one time
I said what are they waiting on? I mean it
was it was instantaneous and you went on and they
got it right. So if we're looking for it right,
this is pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Now.
Speaker 9 (47:46):
I'd asked you last week about, okay, is it more
advantage for the pitcher or more advantage for the hitter?
Speaker 6 (47:51):
And in truth that it works.
Speaker 9 (47:53):
Both ways, because if you're the hitter, like the one
that Aros the rain is struck out on, he would
have got that. I mean the call was his. I mean,
you're looking at another pitch and who knows how the
base hit or a home run ends up. So yeah, man,
I really liked it, and I, uh, I didn't. I
didn't know if I would. I don't see how you
can't use it moving forward. They got it right, and
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it was urgent, and you know, you got to be
prepared for technology to blow out on you in a
game or what have you. But yeah, I had no
problem with it. And uh and by the way, just
so in case you know, A Rod likes loves Rob Manford,
A Rod absolutely loves Rob Manford. All right, if you're
not putting Clemmens and Bonds in, does a Rod? What
does he belong in?
Speaker 1 (48:35):
I mean over those two now I'm.
Speaker 9 (48:36):
Talking about over No, no, forget, I'm not even talking
about over. I'm talking about what. Didn't a Rod get
caught more than once? Chance to cheating? Yeah, he got
caught white, That's exactly right. And that was a rhetorical question.
So and as much I respect his game, I mean,
the guy was a great player without it, or maybe
he wasn't gonna be. I don't know when it kicked
in for him, the steroids. I don't even remember when
he said he started or what. But so so guys
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admitted it twice, So we're gonna I mean, how how
do you vote him in if the other If Bonds
isn't in, how's he in? If he gets in? How
if you put one? If you put him in, they
have to get in, do they not?
Speaker 18 (49:14):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Easily? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (49:15):
So I mean, I mean, aside from the steroids stuff,
and at least either you know what was proven what
was not With the other two guys, I mean, their
whole thing is is I mean, for Clemens, let's just
call it what it is. He's thought of as being
incredibly disingenuous and I'm just kind of a jerk, and
Bonds is just kind of a jerk. So again, so
you an ass kiss or We're not going to get
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you in for the way you played on the field.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
I mean it helps unfortunately.
Speaker 9 (49:41):
And that's but guess what if you're a voter and
you just don't like Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds, Let's
take all three and put him in. Oh, they like
a Rod because he's a little more media savvy or
and he is still on TV.
Speaker 6 (49:54):
People can read through it.
Speaker 9 (49:55):
You know, when a guy comes up to you and
is kissing your ass, we know that he we're talking
about disingenuous.
Speaker 6 (50:01):
What's that it.
Speaker 8 (50:02):
Worked for David Ortiz, Yes, and and but they well
quickly forgot about him.
Speaker 6 (50:06):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 9 (50:06):
But you think about it, we know when the guy's
you know, kiss an ass and to the point of, dude,
have some dignity about yourself. But you're not supposed to
vote for the Hall of Fame based on if a
guy snubbed you for an interview or was an ass
to you, or was a prick. Okay, Now, regardless how
you feel about the steroids, talk about bonds and clements,
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you can't get there. You can't discard those two because
there are pricks or in people's opinion or you know,
went about their business a little more abrasive than than
a rod did you Just you can't. That's not how
you're supposed to vote. It's not personal. You gotta you
get now. The personal part is of you just steroids
and that you say no, not clemens op bots. But
your final decisions can't be Yeah, you know what if
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we're gonna put a rod in, but I'm not puttinghim
in because the the bonds, because well I didn't like
it when he snubbed me for an interview. It was
just a prick. Tars At that they at the post
game press conference. That's that's not how this was meant.
So whether you decide they're in or not, if you
do put a Rod in, you cannot not put those
two guys in. If that I if you can go
a double negative, you just can't. You can't because, uh,
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when you got a panda and kiss the commissioners asked
to have a break, There's no way because if you
open up that floodgate, I can name a bunch of
cats that are going to get in. Manny Ramirez Ortiz,
like you said, is already Clemens Bonds. So man a
line you want to talk about a brown nosing, go
go watch it. I mean, and you'll you'll know that.
I mean, damn well, a Rod was a great player.
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There's there's no way if and you don't go ahead
and pander. I'm sure if your Bonds and Clemens and
the rest of you you're like, yes, please do because
once you get in, or if he does, then that
can of worms has got to be opened up for
us to get in. So but you know, it's it's
a bit. And he stays in the media. That's another thing.
Bonds and and Bonds is a little bit, but Bonds
and Clemens are a little more you know, uh, you know,
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brooding behind the seat. They just need You don't get
much of them, right. They're kind of a little more
distant than a Who's I mean, if there's a camera around,
a Rodd'll sprint to it, make no on a microphone
and no doubt about it. And now he's an owner
of the Minnesota Timberwolves in this and he's on TV,
so yeah it uh uh, I know, we digress. But
since we're talking baseball and Hall of Fames and all that,
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and with Dave Parker and Dick Allen getting in, Yeah,
if you're putting a Rod in because he's because he's
he's good at the PR game, then you better be
prepared for the rest of them. You can't vote one
and not vote the other. I guess you can, but
it would be wrong if you're voting on personality and
not on performance.
Speaker 8 (52:32):
I would say that if you were going to put
together an all time disingenuous team, a Rod would.
Speaker 9 (52:36):
Probably Yeah, if you're telling me that, Clemens, if you
if and you know, I lo he was my favorite
pitcher in Randy from Johnson because I was a classmate
of mine, but at the in my age group, right,
I love and Clemens was once he got seven signs dominant.
So whether you like Rogers approach and Bond's approach, that's
one thing. And if you call them disingenuous or arrogant
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or what have you, please don't tell me as disingenuous
or as oh my gosh, eye rolling. As good as
he is, and I'm sure he's a good guy, but
his eye rolling, as there is in sports, when it
comes to it, that's one of those guys. I guarantee
you of players that even played with him and stuff
kind of roll their eyes and when they watch that
are like, yeah, okay, what a shock. Yes to me,
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as there's a lot of phony to him there just is.
There's a ton of phony to him. Great player, sure,
a good guy, a good dad all. I'm sure he is.
But when it comes to a lot of this stuff,
I don't think a Rod believes about a third of
the things he says did even if you put him
in there, I'm sure behind that. Rob Manford, they talk
about pining for a Hall of Fame spot even though
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he doesn't get to control that.
Speaker 6 (53:43):
The voters do.
Speaker 9 (53:44):
But man having the commissioner on your side telling him
how grady is that he belongs in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6 (53:48):
What a shock.
Speaker 9 (53:49):
Maybe you guys will go in together. So yeah, that
kind of stuff just chaps my ass because you know,
the pandering is out there begging for that shot because
he doesn't even believe that, Okay, but he will public
that's for sure. Yeah, disingenuous is at the top of
that list.
Speaker 8 (54:03):
I And you know another thing for a Rod A
good piece of advice lay off the spray tan.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
You don't need much more of it. I remember once you.
Speaker 8 (54:10):
Mentioned it with him at the Timberwolves they were interviewing him.
I guess they had an earpiece in for him when
he was court sided at Timberwolves game.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
And I mean he seriously looked like a cheeto.
Speaker 9 (54:22):
Listen, man, if a Rod was on vacation out of
the country and he could find an interview to do
and a camera that somebody'd say, oh yeah, heck, I'll
do it. I'm on vacation out on a yacht. Let
me get off, Tony Demy, disrupt my vacation and do
an hour interview for you and will come in so
everybody else has to wait. Yeah, that's him so and
like I said, I respect his game, but I mean
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it's almost to the point where you're like, okay, dude,
yeah enough, okay enough. So maybe sometimes it's better to
have two ears in one mouth and use them accordingly.
But hey, if you get in and you sold yourself enough,
it in't pr and marketing yourself what it's all about.
If he can pull this one off, then he'll open
up a can of worms for the rest of the
guys who also belong in, like a Manny Ramirez, like
a Roger Clemens, like a Barry Bonds, and a Pete
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Rose for different reasons there.
Speaker 8 (55:12):
Wow, I mean, far be it from me to criticize
as a guy who constantly overloads his mouth with his
ass all the time.
Speaker 9 (55:18):
Well, you can criticize it. They can criticize you too,
we can. But you know what, it's okay, I got
plenty of weaknesses and they've been pointed out by me
and plenty of others. But you know what, our job
is to point him out too. I think he's a
disingenuous ass kischen when it comes to Rob Manford and
a hell of a player, and you can have both,
so good luck with that.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
Now for sure. So hey Rod, you continue to be you, buddy?
All right? Speaking of continuing to be you, one.
Speaker 8 (55:42):
Guy who was part of a viral fight, he speaks.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
We'll talk about it.
Speaker 14 (55:47):
Right here.
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All Star Game last night goes to Homers, the National
League with four of them and the American League with three.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
So the National League wins the All Star Game.
Speaker 8 (56:37):
Sauce Gardner now of the highest paid corner in the NFL,
according to reports, four years little over one.
Speaker 1 (56:42):
Hundred and twenty million.
Speaker 8 (56:44):
Round one the Open Championship starts tomorrow morning from Royal Port,
Rush there in Northern Ireland. Sean, remember a couple of
weeks ago, or maybe it was even last week, it
was pretty recent we talked about former hockey player Nick Tarnawski,
who was a goon when he played in the NHL.
He was a guy that was willing to scrap, he
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was willing to throw down. Well, he was part of
that viral golf course fight where the guy you know
clenches his fists both at you know, one at each side,
and charges at him and.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
He threw him into the lake. Well earlier this week.
Speaker 8 (57:18):
It was in fact, over the weekend, the guy who
was on the receiving ing, the receiving end of being
thrown into the lake and also of those punches, he
took to social media. We don't have the audio, but
he took the social media to apologize for his end
of it and explain himself a little bit. Said, yeah,
got a little carried away. You know, the booze was
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flowing everything else, and he was having a good time.
And then you know, he decided that he was going
to write a cat. He was going to try to
write a check, and it was obviously one of those
oversized ones, you know, like somebody wins a contest. You
get the picture of the little gripp and grin right
there holding the check when he tried to write that,
and Nick Tarnaski said no, not today. Well, Tarnaski was
on on it Spitting Chicklets Barstool Hockey podcast talking about
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his side of it, and he was asked about throwing
the guy into the lake, and I love his response.
I mean, the lake was close enough as basically as
to say, yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 1 (58:15):
Lake right there.
Speaker 8 (58:16):
I wanted to throw him in it as kind of
a point of humiliation, but also too of just saying no,
there's no way this guy's gonna come out of the
lake and you know, try to fight me after that.
Speaker 1 (58:27):
Oh but he did.
Speaker 8 (58:28):
And then that's, of course when we got the famous
bang bang bang of him throwing the punches at the
guy while grabbing him like he was grabbing a hockey
sweater to start way, to start waylaying on him.
Speaker 9 (58:40):
Yeah, I but and well it's close by, and throw
him in a good thing. Up in Canada, they don't.
I don't think they have gators, do they? At least
that that golf course. I wouldn't think, because I was
probably you probably wouldn't have that down in Florida, Okay
or Louisiana, you probably because then you might get in trouble.
Speaker 6 (58:57):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it. Well, yeah, right by
my house.
Speaker 9 (59:00):
Then alligator was walking across the car of the path
where everybody big old walking across the path where everybody
walks their animals and goes on walks at night in
the green belt. Yeah, I mean right across it and
right back into the the to the to the little
uh pond there it happened.
Speaker 6 (59:14):
You had no doubt so.
Speaker 9 (59:15):
But I'll tell you what, who of us hasn't done
something stupid, drank a little too much, said something stupid
while you're drinking. Uh maybe on the golf course, a
fistfight seems a little out of hand. Normally I'm cussing
at myself on a bad golf shot, not on somebody
else because they're saying, could you speed it up? Because
you know when you're playing slow. But the apology I
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did see the video was good enough for me. I
people make mistakes. The guy got humiliated on on Nash
a viral video that got humiliated, and we all laughed
at him and said, uh, bit off a little more
than he could chew the understatement. But then again, instead
of fight back and say I'm gonna sue the guy
for coming in, he just admitted he drank too much,
(59:56):
made a mistake, got a little over zealous and uh
and and apologized. Listen, I'd rather have that than a
guy that started to fight back, and oh yeah, we
get a great beef going on between these two verbally,
and it's all over. I can get Robert Griffin and
Ryan Clark anytime. Those two fight with each other every
single day, which is a mind numbing and ridiculous because
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it's just it'll happen next week. So if you want
to do that and bore yourself to death, you can
watch those two on viral videos. It's almost like those
two were married twenty years ago. And I don't mean
because a guy guy guy girl. I'm just talking about
hyperbolic is like, man, what do you guys still you?
Would you guys do or did you guys date the
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same girl when you were in college? Why the constant battles,
But they go back and forth regularly, so they bore me.
But what doesn't bore me is when a guy admits
a mistaken I can handle that. I would imagine sober
the guy would have thought twice it was like, you
know what, this guy's a little too big for me.
I'm not taking this on probably would have played faster
and probably wouldn't have been over zealous with this verbiage
when somebody said, could you pick up the tempo? So
(01:01:01):
an apology is good enough for me. No harm, no foul.
He got embarrassed, it's gonna be he's gonna have to
live with that his whole life on that video, and
it's always going to be a gift that people go
back to, and that's part and parcel.
Speaker 6 (01:01:13):
Embrace it.
Speaker 9 (01:01:14):
Man, you made a mistake, got your ass handed to you,
and then come on and apologize, and you know what
the truth of the matter is. I think you could.
It would be a blast for those two. Heck, you
invite Grant Horvat to mister YouTube golf guy and go
out and tape it and have some fun, have a
match and play some golf and apologize and have some
laughs and turn it into a you know what, we
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screwed up.
Speaker 6 (01:01:36):
But you can still put.
Speaker 9 (01:01:36):
Your arm around each other after an ass open like
two goons in hockey and go out and have a
beer together. I mean, maybe that's a little much, but
they both live in Canda obviously play at the same
golf course, so it sure seems like it wouldn't take
much for those two to actually or somebody get him
both on. Hell, I'd love to get him both on
my shows, get him both on and say, hey, man, way,
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what do you guys think of that? Right, and kind
of go through a boxing match and a laugh and
turn it into Okay, you learned your lesson.
Speaker 6 (01:02:02):
Move on.
Speaker 9 (01:02:03):
I'm good when somebody gives me an apology, I don't.
I don't have to bury them man that he took
enough flack and got his ass kick, And to me,
the apology is good enough for me. And I think
having them both on the same interview would be pretty
It would be pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
I do.
Speaker 9 (01:02:17):
I'd love it. May in fact, that's not a bad idea.
Triplely remind me of that for for for a gig.
Speaker 6 (01:02:23):
So I do.
Speaker 9 (01:02:24):
I think it's really cool that he apologized and he listened,
and by we don't need to beat him down.
Speaker 6 (01:02:29):
He already got beat down enough, so there you go.
I'd love it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
See.
Speaker 8 (01:02:33):
And that's the one thing too, is that the video
was grainy enough that the guy who got beaten down
he probably could have just gone under the radar and
nobody would have known who he was. But now that
he did the apology video, Like, as soon as you
see the guy, you're gonna remember that selfie video of
him apologizing, and it's gonna be like, Oh, you're the
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guy you got thrown in the lake. You're the guy
who got thrown over the cart path, right, you're that guy.
Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Yeah, but you know what he could have He could
have skated by.
Speaker 9 (01:03:05):
Yeah, but he didn't. And that tells me that there's
some accountability. You could have skated by, and so let
me just let this go. He could have skated by.
It tells me accountability. What oh I'm worried about. Hey, listen,
enough people saw the ass whooping. Whether it comes out
in twenty years or not, you know, there'll be another
one that we laugh at.
Speaker 6 (01:03:20):
I love it because why just embrace it?
Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Man?
Speaker 9 (01:03:23):
It happens. How many times have we met somebody that
drinks too much? You invite him over or you're having
a bit, you meet it and you're like, dude, you
were slurn. You blacked out last night, you idiot and
almost got your ass kicked in the bar. And then
you wake up the next day and the guy takes
you to breakfast, saying, man, I can't believe that I
need today or as dehydrate, and you go out and
find out he's not a bad guy. Now, I don't
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know what kind of guy this dude is, but anytime
somebody steps up and owns it, I'll take. I'll take.
I'll give him far more credit than if you went
and hid and say, man, I hope it doesn't go viral. Yeah,
that guy, you didn't need to hit me that many times.
He's the one who started making all these excuses. Take
your ass whooping to get do we accept your apology
and move on. I don't have one ounce of problem
with it. And if he's smart, he embraces it and
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starts doing some in controversy.
Speaker 6 (01:04:08):
Embrace it. If you want to make money off it.
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
He could.
Speaker 9 (01:04:11):
There's a way, I don't know how, somebody brilliant jump
on it and grab a commercial and you know where
you're talking about. Well, hey, man, if you're going to
buy this kind of whatever it is, it could work.
Speaker 14 (01:04:21):
You know.
Speaker 9 (01:04:22):
To me, the apology is good enough for me. I
don't have problem with it because he was embarrassed enough.
Uh don't need to kick him in a rib cage
when he's gonna have to wake up to it. Every
day and wonder what viral video is going to come out?
When is it going to come out again? After a
gift that I'm the gift, all right, So I don't
have a problem with it. I like his apology and
good on him.
Speaker 8 (01:04:40):
Well, the follow up is going to be is somebody
at a bar is going to try him now, you know,
because they're gonna think there's there's blood in the water.
You know, this guy is for the taking and that's
his redemption is he beats the hell out of that guy,
then it's a hey, you know what, I really am
nothing to be, you know, messed with here a pro
hockey player is just the one who beat me up
the last time.
Speaker 14 (01:04:59):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
But you know you want these hands and I'm open
for business.
Speaker 9 (01:05:02):
And you know what, somebody also may say, you know what,
I'm gonna go challenging because they're you know, do you
know how that goes? So for me, I I an
apology is good enough for me, and I'm actually glad
he did it. And you know that's a little humble
pile get you to do some crazy things, and sometimes
it'll get.
Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
You to make excuses. He didn't have an excuse.
Speaker 9 (01:05:20):
He drank too much and then talked too much, and
then took an ass kick, and so he got the trifecta,
and then he apologized. Should be good enough for anybody,
including the guy who beat him down.
Speaker 8 (01:05:29):
You got enough, man, Yeah, that's true. That's true, Craig,
And everybody will tell you as much. Well, at least
Craig was the one who delivered it at that time.
Speaking of embarrassing moments, one for a local rivalry that
took things to the next level yesterday, will let you hear.
Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
That right here.
Speaker 8 (01:05:48):
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Sports Talk seven ninety. The seven o'clock hour, seven ninety
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But Sean, real quick, we are here at SEC Media
Days and Theater of the Mind on radio right, try
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to describe how things are well where me and Gordy are.
We are with our backs turned to the indoor football
field that they have here about thirty yards wide here
at the College Football Hall of Fame, and that is
where they have the main press conference room. Well, this week,
every single coach that goes to the podium Commissioner Greg Sanki,
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who we're going to talk with here in about thirty minutes.
Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
He will introduce them.
Speaker 8 (01:06:35):
And as they're introduced, they are taking the stage to
their school's fight song. So yesterday was Texas's Day and
tomorrow is going to be A and M's Day. And
Steve Sarkisian gets the introduction from Greg Sanki, and this
is what transpired.
Speaker 5 (01:06:54):
So Steve Sarkisian, that's.
Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Not Texas fine a.
Speaker 6 (01:07:14):
Welcome, it's always.
Speaker 8 (01:07:17):
Let's go and Steve. And Steve just rolls right through
the stops on right there. But didn't we get did
we get to hear him?
Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (01:07:25):
Well wait a second, Well why aren't we hearing the
rest of what he said?
Speaker 18 (01:07:30):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (01:07:30):
I mean, he just he didn't even say anything about it.
He just went right into his opening monologue. That was
the clip that I found that I was able to.
Speaker 6 (01:07:37):
Okay, so we didn't hear it, we hear what he said.
We just know that.
Speaker 8 (01:07:40):
He he didn't even acknowledge it. Yeah, he just went
right through and did anybody let me tell you about
my apologize? I had not seen anything. I mean, you know,
I know that arch Manning had a huge gaggle around
him yesterday. So I don't know if anybody asked him
about it, but as far as I know, I think Sarky,
you know, it's kind of like one of those like
even in our business, if you make a snaff foo,
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you know what the rule is, right, you just keep
going because that way, if you don't make light of it,
then probably nobody knows about it. So maybe that's the
tact that Steve took right there, of just saying, don't
even acknowledge it, just keep going. But that's one of
those two of whoever the audio visual guy is here where,
they probably just looked. They probably have an iPad in
front of them or something that they hit a hot
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key kind of like triple he does to fire off,
you know, drops or anything else. And you probably saw
tex right there and thought, oh, yeah, hey, this is
this is the Longhorns.
Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
It was not. It was the Aggi war him.
Speaker 8 (01:08:36):
And that was the one thing though that I would
have liked for sark to jump up there and say.
Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Yeah, that's not Texas fire.
Speaker 8 (01:08:41):
We like our fight song a little bit better, but
the Aggie Warham playing.
Speaker 9 (01:08:46):
So now with this rivalry, there's so many lines. Yeah,
there's so many lines. It would have been like if
I was the coach and I was at USC, they'd
have played UCLA or Notre Dames fight song when you
walk up there on AXA, you know, well it wouldn't
be Notre Dame, but same a team in your in
your and your your rival. I would have There'd have
been so many different ways you could have attacked that
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and and made light of it or right, yes, you
could have yeah, yeah, you could have done. You could
have gone. You could have gone and and made some
snide remarks. You could have laughed about star candled it.
Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Right.
Speaker 9 (01:09:27):
But man, there's so many ways you could have got
a good dig it. But you know what, just file
it away, File it away because somebody pushed the wrong button.
And uh, I can't wait to see that response. And
you know, and there's a lot of stuff going around
and I love it just because I love the banter
is with Sarkisi and his yesterday said Texas wants players
who are coming for the school and the culture versus
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the money now and they got one of the big
nils and we know that they're they're involved in it,
and as is everybody. But I know that that's and everybody,
I think you'd like somebody to come because a loyalty
does a school, they want to be there, there's a
passion for it. And then you go through all of it,
and then the money is brought up last, and I
think that that's ambitious because I think we all want that.
I love where Sark's going with that. But then you
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see the video people are doing it. We don't talk
about nil or revenue, share of publicity rights until the
very end meeting. At the end of I'm sure they're
recruiting conversation with that player. And then here's Sark greeting
results recruits as they show up to the Texas facility
and there's Lambos or there's Lambos about five of them
sitting outside the facility and people are laughing. It's like,
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oh yeah, no nil, no gifts there. But by the way,
how's that Lambeou dealership? It just makes for good banter
and I love it. But Sark did say until the end.
He didn't so we don't talk about it, he said
until the end, meaning we're selling our schools, selling the culture,
selling why you need to come to Texas, which I like.
But it just makes for continuous You know, hey, listen,
people have receipts all the time, and you know lambos
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or ferraris sit outside the facility. That will get people
to post that like crazy, So it makes for fun.
You find out a lot of good stuff at meetings
like the SEC Media Days and the rest of it.
Speaker 6 (01:11:03):
So football's right around the corner.
Speaker 9 (01:11:04):
And if that opening Gay Day, then opening games not
opening gay opening games and day. When you say games
and day at the same time, it comes out gay, okay, happy?
Right is Look at the schedule on the with Texas
and Ohio State. Look at the schedule through that day,
Take a look at the matchups through that day and
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and if you got anything planned for about all the
way to the UCLA. Let's see UCLA is playing who
are they opening against? Which is a really good game
as well the late one. You go down to schedule
and there's there's four football games that if you're not
in front of your TV all day and you know
when that when that game kicks in from arch manning
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at the beginning all the way till the end, you're
missing out because that schedule is off the charts for
an early season's matchup.
Speaker 6 (01:11:52):
And I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 9 (01:11:53):
So and Texas by all accounts is a top two
team going into the country and that'll be a great
way to start your day when those things kick in,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
All right.
Speaker 8 (01:12:03):
So we'll leave that there for now, but we'll pick
it back up talking with the new Senior Bowl director
of the new director of the Senior Bowl, Drew Fabianich,
gonna join us here in just a couple of minutes
as we continue here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues.
Speaker 8 (01:12:23):
He is Drew Fabianitch, and Drew has been all over
the place eighteen years with the Cowboys before the Senior Bowl.
Your last stop was GM at West Virginia, correct, all right,
and now you take over the job with Jim Naggy
moving on and going into college. So kind of crossing paths,
like was it almost kind of like, you know, you're
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going into the office. He say, you know, here's this,
here's that. I'm gonna go do what you've been doing.
Now you get to do what I've been doing.
Speaker 19 (01:12:50):
I warned him about certain things and he was all
in on it. I mean, I think you know, once
you made a decision to you know, to move on
to a different job. I think you kind of put
your eyes, you know, and blinders on and just roll
with it, you know. I asked him some of the
things that I needed to understand and know about the job,
because it's not just about picking the players. I mean,
it's a it's a civic, community based, you know game
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that the Senior Bowl charities are involved in a lot
of different things down there, and we got functions and
events going on almost every single month throughout the year,
and they're quite involved with high school sports, uh, with
community incentives. And now it's you said the Senior Bowl. Yes,
it's the Panini Senior Bowl now. And Panini the trading
card company has jumped in as our title sponsor, which
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I think is fantastic because I like the idea of
having a sports company involved in a an a football game.
Speaker 6 (01:13:42):
D what was the biggest race I don't mean to interrupted,
I'm sorry, No, that's okay.
Speaker 9 (01:13:46):
What was the biggest piece of advice? Because you've been
involved in running programs and being a part of that
the decisions and the planning that goes into but what
was the biggest piece of advice Jim gave you for
this job, try.
Speaker 19 (01:14:01):
To be patient with the agents and try to be
more of an educator than talking to them and talking
at them, because I think that they're an incredible piece
that you have to actually sell for their clients to
actually understand the value of the game. And Sean, I
mean the perfect example to me was, you know, I
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mean with the Cowboys was DeMarcus Ware. I mean, we
were sold as soon as he stood up and you know,
got in a wide nine and went off to right,
went off in a two point right, and part Silas
is sitting there going, Okay, I'm good, you know. And
you know last year when the Zabel kid came from
North Dakota State and the league had him as a
high three and he ends up going eighteen. Well, if
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you look at the four year contract, that's twelve point
seven million dollars a difference. And if agents and players
don't understand the value that they could gain by playing
in the premiere All Star game, you know in the country, well,
I'm not a good I'm not a very good salesman,
you know what I mean. So that's kind of Jim's
you know, main advice was make sure you sell the agent.
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Make sure you sell the player, but I'm also going
to have a lot of backups just in case. You know, again,
we're gonna have a vertical board that hey, if one goes,
we got to be ready to have the other one coming.
And I'm also going to tell agents that I kind
of know are playing it playing me that we need
to not come to the game or play it all
the way to the three days before and then back out.
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I'd rather have somebody I know it's going to be
down there for practicing games, just you know, tell me
they're coming. Does that makes sense perfect? Sure, Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 8 (01:15:36):
And Drew Fabian is new director of the Senior Bowl
and he's joined us here at SEC media Days and
you know, talked about it too. I mean your time
with the Cowboys eighteen years and you obviously went to
this event quite a bit of being in the scouting
department there. What did you think you knew about this
job before you took it and what did you only
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learn once you took it.
Speaker 19 (01:16:00):
I thought it was just about the game. I did
not know that the Senior Bowl Charities is involved in
so many you know, civic minded pieces, whether it's you know,
donating you know, five thousand dollars to each high school,
you know, for equipment each year, you know, doing a
leadership conference in July with mobile, I mean Mobile in
Baldwin County. The Hall of Fame, you know, Senior Bowl
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Hall of Fame, the charity golf tournament, the draft party,
the kickoff party, the weak function that go on that
again I never saw because I always left on a Thursday. Well,
there's a huge concert in one of the squares, you know,
on Friday night after the Marty Grass Parade for the players.
I didn't know about all these pieces until I actually
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went down and interviewed for the job. I was going
to like, okay, I can you know, I can handle
picking the players and dealing with the agents and you know,
doing all this, and then all of a sudden, now
I'm you know, on every single radio station, every single
TV spot, you know, going national. You know, I'm the
face of it. But it's also about the Senior Bowl charities.
And I thought it was just about the game. I
had no idea and being down there for eighteen years straight,
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you know, Like I told my wife, she was like, oh,
you never went to this place. I was like, hun,
I was like, I never had time, right, it was like,
I'm always going to practice, going to lunch real quick,
going to practice, going to interviews every single night. And
by the time I got done with interviews, I was like,
I'm good, I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 6 (01:17:23):
I'm going.
Speaker 19 (01:17:24):
I'm gonna kick it out, I'm gonna go to sleep,
I'm gonna be ready for the next morning. And so
you know, again, I'm trying to change some things that
make it more player friendly, make it more personnel friendly
and coach friendly, because Sean, you'll remember that this used
to be the because Senior Bowl used to be kind
of the unofficial NFL Coaches convention exactly what it was, yep.
Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
And when they started.
Speaker 19 (01:17:45):
Doing the formal interviews at night, those coaches didn't want
to come anymore because they couldn't network with their boys,
they couldn't hang out, they couldn't you know, look for
jobs and everything else. Well, that's one change I am making.
The Monday night's gonna be the only night that they'll
actually interview, and all the interviews will be in the morning,
and then all the evenings will be free for the coaches,
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the players, right, and the personnel people.
Speaker 6 (01:18:08):
You're making it, do it for everybody to win this.
Speaker 19 (01:18:11):
Yeah, yes, and you know, and the thing is, is
it again, I want it to be a pleasurable experience
more so for the players, right because when I did
those interviews from seven to ten every night, I mean
I was so beat down by the end.
Speaker 6 (01:18:24):
I was like, this got to be baster I hated
football by the end of the week, right, yeah, And
you can and I can't imagine what those guys thought.
Speaker 19 (01:18:32):
They were going like, Okay, I just got to ask
the same question twenty eight times in the last you know,
three hours. You know, why do I got to keep
doing this?
Speaker 14 (01:18:39):
Right?
Speaker 19 (01:18:40):
You know, well, you know again, I want to make
it pleasurable. So they're going to be the ambassadors back
at campus for me, you know, for the next you know,
four or five years when they go back to work
the strength coach or go back over the summer and
they say, hey, you know, if you get an invite,
it's big, it's enormous, it's it's it's huge, it's valuable.
But it's also a great time.
Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Dary.
Speaker 6 (01:18:58):
We got about two minutes, two minutes left with you.
Speaker 9 (01:19:01):
I want to take you and I are sitting at
your house, in my house, we're having a beer and
we're watching college football, and you're to remove yourself from
the job.
Speaker 6 (01:19:09):
You and I are just fans.
Speaker 9 (01:19:11):
You've seen the NFL side, this college side, and with
all the building you got to do for this and
make it conducive.
Speaker 6 (01:19:17):
What are you as a fan? What bothers you? I know,
all the good stuff?
Speaker 9 (01:19:21):
What bothers you about the college football game right now
with all the nil and money? What bothers you about
all this? Or do you love the state of the game.
Speaker 19 (01:19:29):
I don't love the state of the game. I'm old school,
and again I like that the players are actually getting
their fair share, but I think it's so far off
the rails and it's so ungoverned and it's so unregulated
that the haves are still going to be the haves
and the have nots are always going to be the
have nots. If it continues down this road, it's got
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to go to Congress. It's got to go to an
employee base, it's got to go to a two year
it's got to go to CBA. I mean, it's got
to become almost a minor league for the NFL, because
this is gonna this model is not going to work
any longer. I mean, it's just they're gonna run out
of cash and it's gonna hurt all the other Olympic
sports and all the other sports in the university. So
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that was kind of long winded, John, Sorry, but I
mean not long winded at all.
Speaker 6 (01:20:15):
Bro, I'll blow through the braak.
Speaker 9 (01:20:17):
I love this because I am why you were sitting
in the same church view with that, with that opinion,
I'm I agreed with you. If you were having that beer,
which I'd like to have sometime, that'd be great.
Speaker 6 (01:20:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 19 (01:20:27):
I just I hope that something's done, and I don't
know who is going to be that person, but you
have to have this regulated because again, just like when
the nca says, oh we're going to have Deloitte, you
know handle you know whether this is a you know,
whether that's market value. They don't know that, and then
as soon as somebody says it's not market value, then
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they're gonna get sued and then guess what, the NCAA
is gonna do nothing about it.
Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
Nothing.
Speaker 19 (01:20:54):
So again that's the state of this game needs to
be changed, and it needs to be as equitable as possible,
which is gonna be hard.
Speaker 8 (01:21:03):
It really is Drew Fabianisch again the new Senior Bowl Director.
Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Join us here at SEC Media Days, Drew.
Speaker 8 (01:21:10):
Really appreciate your time and best of luck and look
forward to catching up with you again another time. Drew.
Speaker 9 (01:21:16):
Great stuff, Buddy, good to talk to you man, Thank you,
great insight.
Speaker 6 (01:21:18):
Appreciate your brother you too, Buddy.
Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
Awesome, Appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (01:21:21):
And we'll continue on here from SEC Media Days in Atlanta,
as don't forget. In about twenty minutes, we're going to
talk with SEC Commissioner Greg Sanky. It is the Sean
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Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
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Speaker 8 (01:22:53):
But Sean, some of the things that we just talked
about with Drew Fabianich, who obviously has been in game
for quite some time, I mean a lot of time
with the Cowboys and talking about you know, his time
there with them, and you know, it's just interesting too
to get his perspective of a guy who went to
the Senior Bowl. And I mean it is an all
day thing. I mean, as he touched on where it's
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not only the formal interviews in the room. And you
know a lot of those guys you can get before
you get to Indianapolis for the combine, so you can
get them right there. I mean as much time and
as much interaction with these guys as possible before you
put in a pretty sizable investment in these guys, they're
gonna take that time. And you know, just kind of saying,
all right, what didn't I like as a scout, and
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what can I change now that I'm in charge.
Speaker 9 (01:23:39):
It's not just an all day thing. It's an all
year thing. He's got a job that there's not any
there's there's not much time off rle. You've already looking
at the guys that the people that can play in
it next year. You've got to have when he talks
about that vertical list that you go down this guy.
And I love the fact that he said, don't play
us and give me the showing up and then three
days before you put everybody in a buy it, don't
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show up. I just soon have somebody that is going
to show up and play hard. I'm with him one
hundred percent, no nonsense.
Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
I like it.
Speaker 9 (01:24:04):
I like the fact that he said the game, I mean,
the college football game has got to change. It cannot
sustain this and it can't. This is not sustainable and
it will. You think it's bad at times. Now, well,
the kid, we want the kid to be successful. But
if the kid's successful and the sport's not, it won't matter.
And college football it has to be governed, and I
hate government involved in it, but it has to be regular.
Speaker 6 (01:24:25):
It just does.
Speaker 9 (01:24:26):
There's no way this can continue. It isn't sustainable financially,
let alone everything else. And you'll start to get people
dropping like flies from the coaching world.
Speaker 6 (01:24:35):
Just it'll just beat you down.
Speaker 9 (01:24:37):
You can't keep up, and then the price will continue
to go up and six graders will be highering agents
and they'll start their You just can't do it. It's not
sustainable and it's not reasonable. So I love the fact
that he's no nonsense. It wasn't afraid to hurt anybody's feelings.
He wasn't afraid to And with this job, he's got
now think about it, he's got to have five or
six replacements at every position. He's got to know who's what,
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what people want to see, and you've got to be
worthy of you know, Okay, a guy there that somebody
wants and you have to listen to coaches and why
this guy and study tape, and then you got to
go talk to agents. That's going to be the biggest
pain in the ass of all of it. Yeah, I
got a convention agent to go get your guy more publicity.
If he's a third round pick, come play in the
thing and be a first round or like you mentioned,
if you're good enough. So yeah, they got the right guy.
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And I do like the changes. Guys go there to
get jobs. Unemployed coaches go there. Don't bog them down
with stuff till eleven o'clock at night, get it all
done most of the day, and then let them do
hobnob have a beer. And some of the best deals
are made on golf courses. Well, some of the best
deals can be made with somebody sitting at a restaurant. Yeah,
you know what, that's a great idea. Tell me about it.
(01:25:41):
Drawing a nap can what you do in this situation. Bam,
you may be hired next year.
Speaker 6 (01:25:44):
Who knows.
Speaker 9 (01:25:45):
So he's got the right idea and it's no nonsense.
But he wants to cater to the player to make
it well because the players are happy the game's better,
but without having to be holding to them that Hey, yeah,
i'll let you know a day before the Senior Bowl starts. Naw, No,
the game's bigger than one player, and that's important. I
think you got that message from him. And he's seen
the NFL side, he's seen the scouting side, he's seen
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the GM side, he's seen the college side, and now
he gets to run a bowl game that isn't just
a we'll see at a game. Everything that goes into
it to make it successful. They got the right chance
because Jim Naggy was awesome and Jim's now at GM
for where's he at Oklahoma venables GM? Yeah, yeah, And
so Jim took that on and it's a great gig
in it. Before you know what, everybody's going to have
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a GM in college football, which means it's a pro sport.
I love the fact, I love where Drew's headed with this,
and I think we're at the right We got the
right guy for this.
Speaker 6 (01:26:36):
It's important well, I mean.
Speaker 8 (01:26:39):
And also too, there's Shamar Stewart, you know, Texas A
and M, one of the last unsigned guys for this
signing class. I mean, you know, he's still going through
the contract negotiation with the Bengals. There was a loose
report out there which I don't even think this is
remotely possible of happening, that he's practicing with the A
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and M players and would think about going back. I mean, again,
I don't know how much validity there is to that,
and again, I just don't think that that is possible
for him to be able to do.
Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
But I mean, and when.
Speaker 9 (01:27:14):
He says practicing, official practices haven't started, so yeah. But
when people say it, oh, I'm going to go back
and practice that, the first thought is, oh, he's going
to put on gear and go back and practice with him. Well,
he's at the facility working out, which a lot of
players in their off seasons go back to their facility
and work out, train with the coach.
Speaker 6 (01:27:34):
They're in the weight room doing it.
Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
All.
Speaker 6 (01:27:36):
That's fine.
Speaker 9 (01:27:36):
I actually, if you want my opinion, I think it'd
be a big mistake. I understand rookie contracts in Cincinnati
in the past has been you know, cheap, but they
started to pay. Hell, between Burrow and they're two wide receivers,
they're paying about a billion dollars it seems. And I'm
obviously a little hyperbok with they're paying a little more
now now they need some defense to pay. But to me,
I think I think he's making a mistake going back
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to college and do it and taking the risk of
what could happen. But the nil part of it and
the college thing part of it makes it intriguing because
now guys can go back and get paid. So I
don't know, I'm not getting at his wallet. I don't
know about his negotiations with the Bengals and all that stuff.
But to me, he's going back and working out. It
almost feels like a hey, I'm doing this. See with
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the threat of it, it's a negotiating ploy. To me,
it'd be great for A and M to get a
guy back, But in truth, I don't this. This is
a rare, rare circumstance. To me, go get your deal done,
Go take care of your business and get yourself ready
to play.
Speaker 6 (01:28:37):
But it's his decision.
Speaker 9 (01:28:37):
If he wants to go back and help A and
M and they spot for him and he can improve
his draft status, great, But there's also the risk that
comes with going back, and we know what those are.
So to me, your first round pick, go play or
change your agent if you're not getting the money you want.
But if he thinks going back to college is good
for him and he can pull this off, findman. He's
working out at Texas A and M, which is what
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a lot of players do in their home state or
their home you know, at their school when they before
a draft or in an offseason. So that's no surprise.
If they were practicing right now and we were in gear,
there'd be a process to go through. You can't just
show up, stick a helmet on and say, oh, you
didn't go into the draft because you haven't signed. And
for people that ask, if you're a draft pick and
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you don't sign, you can go back into the draft,
at least in the past. Now, how the agent stuff
comes into it and the rules and red tape you
got to go through. But the Bengals will be well
aware of that as well. Now, the question is when
you do sign and come to camp, are you bitter?
Do you want out? Do you give it your all?
Is there buy in because of all the trouble you're
going through. So I'm going to suggest or guess that
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he ends up playing in the NFL. But if he doesn't,
well then you just added depth to your Texas A
and M roster if you can pull it off.
Speaker 8 (01:29:52):
I mean, and that's where it really becomes I mean
baseball talk about signability. Hey, if we offer this guy
a certain amount, is he going to come play for
us you gotta skip college? Or is he going to
say no? Not enough, don't draft me. I'm gonna go
to college and I mean you're kind of getting that
now in college football, Sean, Yeah, but we're gonna have
some of these guys that you do.
Speaker 9 (01:30:11):
But it hasn't happened you. We're not get I mean,
there's threats of it. When when when's the last time
it happens a lot and baseball? Either go to college
or you know, guys that don't get draft try to
go back into the draft, go back and play another year,
all those things in baseball. What it doesn't when's the
lad Name me a guy that's done this in college
that you can think of a first round pick in
the LADD and then name me one. There's threats of it.
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It may happen more now because of Nil. It may
very well happen. But being one of the top thirty
players picked in a draft thirty two is a pretty
good gig. Now it's his wallet in his career. He's
got to do what he's got to do, even with nil.
I mean, hell, Quinn, yours had a chance to come back,
could have made more money than he made as a rookie,
and he decided to go in and he wanted to
go compete and Phil fell his time in college was done.
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Good on him. But if he wants to go back,
that's fine. But while there'll be more of it, he's
the threat of it. I can't remember a guy or
name a guy right now. It was a first round
pick and went back into the draft in recent history,
this is a threat. I expect him being Cincinnati. If not,
maybe it opens the cannon worms. But nil does bring
that to the table.
Speaker 8 (01:31:12):
We'll talk about that much more with the Commissioner of
the SEC Greg SANKI gonna step in with us here
as we continue along here me and Atlanta, Seawan Intripoli
back in Houston in our studios. It is a Sean
Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 4 (01:31:30):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues a no now you.
Speaker 8 (01:31:34):
Know, to be joined by the Commissioner of the Southeastern Conference.
He is Greg Sankie. Greg got me here in Atlanta,
Sean Salisbury back in Houston. I spent in a few
minutes with you. Really appreciate your time. I gotta ask
you don't really seem like a reactionary person. And this
is a job that has so many just unknown variables
(01:31:58):
out there that you see to kind of see these
things coming, Like, what do you think kind of goes
into that for you?
Speaker 14 (01:32:04):
Really good people around me.
Speaker 11 (01:32:06):
I probably have also learned from the times I've reacted
quickly that you need to be more thoughtful.
Speaker 14 (01:32:12):
In those moments. And you know, there's just a lot
going on.
Speaker 11 (01:32:17):
And if it was an attempt, and I think behind
the scenes, I do have to react on a regular basis,
But if it was an attempt to just constantly be
in reactionary mode, which unfortunately we are, you don't make
a lot of progress.
Speaker 6 (01:32:31):
If that's your strategy, Greg, great to have you on.
Speaker 9 (01:32:35):
If you're overall got something that you want change in
college football or the number one priority overall for the
whole process from high school to college just looking at
the landscape, what would it be?
Speaker 6 (01:32:48):
So I have to pick one? Yeah, the most important
to you? Yeah?
Speaker 14 (01:32:54):
Oh wow? You know.
Speaker 11 (01:32:59):
The challenge we have is the combination of the transfer
freedom and nil all at the same time, which I
think creates a lot of confusion about values. But I
think just decoupling those two from each other, you don't
really make a lot of progress. If it was me,
i'd provide some clarity on transfers A system that is
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educationally sound, so moving around every semester every year doesn't
lead you down the path to graduation. I think that
would be enormously helpful in the areas of things that
we could control. Probably going to get sued if you
have more restrictive policies. That's why I go back and
attach these too sound academic policy helping young people make progress.
(01:33:42):
There's nothing wrong with that sort of oversight. That doesn't
mean go into lockdown mode. It just means you need
a more systematic way of managing the issues.
Speaker 9 (01:33:53):
Hey, Greg, I can't think of anybody better to ask
this question. It may be unfair, but I'm gonna ask
it anyway, because you're always transparent. With Nick Saban, I
think the best college coach of all time. And you
know the talk of him coming back, but what you
know of him did the nil and the fact that
it's not regulate how it got we hit that slippery
slope of getting out of hand because Nick's got some
(01:34:14):
old school in him. Did that force him to do
this to get back in TV? Do you think that's
the number one reason he walked away, because it sure
seems like he's got a lot of football left in him.
Speaker 11 (01:34:24):
I asked him that directly, So I think his retirement
was announced, not like a Wednesday or Thursday, and I
waited a couple of days and called him just to
check in, and we've talked repeatedly throughout.
Speaker 14 (01:34:35):
You know, I think there are a lot of factors.
You put that on the factor list.
Speaker 11 (01:34:38):
I don't think that was necessarily a tipping point for him.
Certainly a piece of his decision making, but he's not
the type of person that takes one issue and says,
well I'm donner. I mean, because of that, it's a
broader look. Now, I will say, on the transparent side,
it's been really enjoyable to visit with him and just
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watch him where he's not focused on game preparation or recruiting,
think about the game, and be a bit of a
sounding board on some of the big picture issues we
have taking place in college sports.
Speaker 6 (01:35:10):
Well, the dude doesn't get gray hair, Greg.
Speaker 9 (01:35:12):
I mean, for whatever reason, he's he looks like he's
having a lot of fun on college game day.
Speaker 6 (01:35:16):
So it's pretty cool to see.
Speaker 14 (01:35:18):
Yeah, you know, I went up.
Speaker 11 (01:35:19):
To the Texas game at Michigan and it was the
first time i'd seen him in that setting with Kirk
and Reese and.
Speaker 14 (01:35:28):
Desmond and Pat, and I asked him. I called him
the next week about how it's going.
Speaker 11 (01:35:33):
And then I kind of asked the other guys around
the rest of the season about, you know, their Friday interactions,
their dinners, and I've never been to one of their
Friday dinners.
Speaker 14 (01:35:42):
I need to.
Speaker 11 (01:35:42):
Figure out football among that group, which I think would
be fascinating, yes, to be a part of again.
Speaker 8 (01:35:50):
SEC Commissioner Greg sank you joining us here in Atlanta
at SEC Media Days. And when it comes to the
College Football Playoff, I mean, obviously the SEC has a
position on it.
Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
The Big Ten has a position on it.
Speaker 8 (01:36:01):
You know Brett yormark last week talking about it from
the Big twelve perspective. How important is it to obviously
obvious you know what you want is best for the SEC,
but then how much collaboration is needed in order to
get to something that can be agreeable for everyone.
Speaker 11 (01:36:17):
It is a collaborative effort, and they all asked about
what's best for the SEC. So the blake, the bottom
line is, we never would have gone to twelve. If
our motivation was just what's best for the SEC, we
would have stayed at four. I said that plainly, And
if you think about last year, had we been at four,
you would have had what Oregon and Penn State, in
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Georgia and.
Speaker 14 (01:36:42):
Texas that would have been the fourth.
Speaker 11 (01:36:44):
Yes, So the good that we did for college football
is that Ohio State got into the playoff, that Clemson,
that SMU, that Arizona State had any access, the Boise
State had any access. So that the notion that this
is all driven out of cell interest is not actually
consistent with the evidence. Now moving forward, I think there's
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some misunderstanding like this five whatever notion, there's no doubling down.
The five conference champion model is embedded in whatever structure.
So whether we have twelve or fourteen or sixteen, there
are five allocated spots for conference champions. That's not about
somebody's opinion. Now, the question is should we grow beyond twelve.
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Our conference observed after a lot of talk in our
spring meetings that growth perhaps to sixteen was a point
of emphasis, that that access was important. And I'll give
you two reasons why Alabama and Ole Miss both beat
Georgia best win of last year's season. George is a
second ranked team in the country. If they can play
at that level on any given Saturday, perhaps those type of.
Speaker 14 (01:37:53):
Teams could make a run and the expansion is healthy. Now,
how do you invite teams into.
Speaker 11 (01:37:58):
That that playoff? No matter what the number is, we said,
rather than allocating automatically more bids, let's look at the
selection protocol. We have interest in the model. And I've
said this to Brett, to Jim Phillips with the acc
to Tony Pettiti.
Speaker 14 (01:38:17):
And to all my other bulls i'd be in college.
Speaker 11 (01:38:19):
We have interest in this automatic bid model, but we're
not committed to that. What we are interested is improving
the selection process as thinking of that could be achieved,
and I think there.
Speaker 14 (01:38:28):
Needs to be a sense of urgency around that.
Speaker 11 (01:38:31):
And hopefully that's a complete explanation of kind of how
we see the world.
Speaker 9 (01:38:35):
Hey, Greg, about the committee and choosing, and I know
they put a lot of time and effort in and
maybe this is a naive question, and you oversee the
as powerful a conference as there is in sports period
selection committee.
Speaker 6 (01:38:49):
I've always asked why.
Speaker 9 (01:38:50):
Maybe it's elementary, but why is a current athletic We
got enough people in the world that know football and
watch it. Why would a current athletic director that is
on a power power for school.
Speaker 6 (01:39:04):
Why is that.
Speaker 9 (01:39:05):
Person on the committee You can't help with human nature
to lean towards your conference or your Why is there
a person that's an athletic director, current standing athletic director
on that committee.
Speaker 6 (01:39:15):
Why do we do that?
Speaker 14 (01:39:17):
I'm going to give you a couple perspectives. So let's start.
Speaker 11 (01:39:20):
Like the fundamental statement it's come up this week is, hey,
the NFL doesn't use a committee select this playoff teams. Okay,
neither does the NBA, nor Major League Baseball, nor Major
League Soccer, nor the NHL. But in college the existence
of a selection committee, because of the breadth of programs
has involved selection committees in basketball, baseball, whatever. But for
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the period of time when the BCS used computer rankings,
and what was the reaction, then, well, we need humans involved.
Now that the second point, so that the tradition of
selection committees exists in college sports, that's not unique. Now,
the question of who should populate the selection committees is
an interesting one, and this goes back to twenty fourteen,
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and it's a fair question to continue to ask, is
who should populate that? And it was felt at that
time and so this predates my role as commissioner.
Speaker 14 (01:40:10):
That involving athletics directors who are in the sport, who
are part of.
Speaker 11 (01:40:15):
The day to day operations of college football was healthy,
works in other sports, works in basketball, and adding beyond
what other selection committees do those from the outside, so
former coaches, former players, members of the media, people with
significant statues.
Speaker 14 (01:40:34):
So think about former Secretary of State.
Speaker 11 (01:40:36):
Condolleza Rice was on the original committee that that balance
was appropriate with the kind of recusal. So where there
are conflicts of interest, you can't represent your own school,
or if you were the athletic director and another school,
you might be out of that conversation as well. It's
a fair question to ask. I think the credibility of
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the people has been solid over time. I think we
need to continue to look at ways to improve that process,
and perhaps the personnel piece.
Speaker 14 (01:41:04):
Is a piece of it.
Speaker 9 (01:41:05):
Hey, Greg, let me get back to this twelve teams thing.
And it's just such a valid point that you make.
Are you concerned that, Okay, we had sixteen and I
know that you know money and revenue and all that's important,
there's no doubt, but are we in danger? I understand
you can knock down three point shots. In basketball, we
have sixty four teams and a twelve will be to five.
But is it realistic whether we get to sixteen or more.
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Where's the breaking point where we say there's no way
the twenty fifth team in the country can just on
attrition alone depth wise, can handle four or five games
against playing week after week. Where's the cutoff of where
it's no good?
Speaker 14 (01:41:43):
Yeah, I think that's a real question.
Speaker 11 (01:41:45):
And in fact, if you go back to the expansion
to twelve, there were a lot of articles written about
the number of games that would come with a twelve
team playoff. There were none of those articles written during
the playoff last year you had right what you heard
was like Sark and I talked to the all about
how they had adjusted preparation and practices dating back into
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November of that year. So people are going to adjust.
The players told us it's not about the games, it's
about the totality of the year and the impacts through
the year. And so what you've watched coaches naturally adjust
the balance is the opportunity to play for a national
championship versus what's required to do that. And I think
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the issues of depth, particularly when we're going through some
of these roster changes need to be considered. Obviously, the
preparation and the adjustment the gaps between games and the
recovery time is a piece of it. I'll say one
of the challenges with going to sixteen is like where
do you actually.
Speaker 14 (01:42:42):
Place the games on the calendar.
Speaker 11 (01:42:43):
That is a challenge given Army Navy, given the NFL
playing on Saturday, we already have some conflicts there. And
then how do you build enough rest in recovery and
try to finish, you know, by kind of the mid
January date where we currently occupy. There's a lot to
the potential expansion. I tend to think the twelve format
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was really well informed. I'm interested and alternative is beyond that,
but the twelve twelve team thing worked really well last year.
Speaker 8 (01:43:12):
Absolutely, SEC Commissioner Greg sank you joining us here at
SEC Media Days. Commissioner, really appreciate your time and really
enjoyed the conversation, and we'll catch up with you again
here very soon.
Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
Greg.
Speaker 6 (01:43:23):
Great stuff, Thank you, buddy, appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
Thank you, Yeah, thank you, awesome, thank you so much.
Speaker 8 (01:43:27):
All Right, so we'll continue on here on the Seawan
Salisbury Show again, Dan Matthews here in Atlanta, Seawan Pack
in Houston. As we continue here Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
The seven ninety.
Speaker 8 (01:43:38):
Listener line in the eight o'clock hour is presented by
one eight hundred car Cash. Not just you know, the
most powerful commissioner. He is the man who's I mean,
he's saved college football in twenty twenty when the Big
ten and the Pac twelve decided we're not going to
play football and Greg Sankie said, oh, we're gonna try.
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We're gonna give it every opportunity, and then they had
to double back and say, oh, okay, yeah, well I
guess it can be done, so we will play. But
I mean a lot of the things he talked about,
but one that stood out to me the most was
kind of pushing back on a little bit of a
misnomer that it's the SEC pushing for expansion. He's like, no, honestly,
we proved we could make multiple teams get into the
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college football playoff when it was just four. You guys
are the ones that proved that you were having a
tough time.
Speaker 9 (01:44:27):
There's absolutely no way, and he is if if you
want to know what's going on, in college football, not
just in the SEC.
Speaker 6 (01:44:36):
The guy we just spoke to knows.
Speaker 9 (01:44:40):
And has and can get places that the rest of
the world can't get when it comes to college football.
He knows the pitfalls and he knows exactly what's what's important.
Like I can tell you this that I would doubt
that he wants to get it too big. Even though
the SEC has a lot of good teams, the breaking
point of how many teams and the rest of it
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goes in and you talk about, well, expanding this thing,
I think he's well aware and cognizant of you're at
the water down.
Speaker 6 (01:45:09):
You get past sixteen teams and it's too much.
Speaker 9 (01:45:12):
I'm just telling you right now, the twenty fifth team
in college football cannot win five straight games unless unless
there's injuries to starting course. I mean, they can win
one or two and maybe that's exciting, but that's not
going to happen. And if you get to sixteen, there's
at twelve's pushing it. And you heard him say, hell,
they had a pretty good thing going on when it
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was at four. The SEC is always going to be
represented if you expand it. Listen, if college football wants
to expand it, I'll give you a fair warning. If
you're going to expand four more teams, then you should
expect out of the sixteen damn near half of them
being SEC teams.
Speaker 6 (01:45:47):
That's going to happen.
Speaker 9 (01:45:48):
So if you're one that's pissed off about, well, you
know what SEC keeps getting. The more the more you
the more you open it up, I got news for you.
The more you're just saying, oh, another two SEC teams,
he had four more teams, there's a real good chance
that one or two of them is going to be
an SEC team. And two more teams would have been
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in last year, Ole Miss and South Carolina, they would
have been in the playoff if was sixteen. So you
just added two more of the four, and who the
hell knows if they would have thrown to try to
throw somebody else in.
Speaker 6 (01:46:19):
So Greg gets it, and I know that.
Speaker 9 (01:46:21):
I mean, he's powerful, and then when it comes to
the Commissioner of Commissioners, he's it. So there's some very
very slippery slopes on different and in different spaces here
when it comes to college football. It didn't just won
the needs fix. Think about what we're talking about, who
the committee is, do we expand what about conference? Is
there automatic bids? Do the top four teams have to
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be conference champions? Or can it just be where we
are at the end, which obviously hasn't been in major
discussion and talking point is twelve enough?
Speaker 6 (01:46:51):
Is sixteen too many? Do we need more than sixteen?
Speaker 9 (01:46:54):
When I hear the talk of let's get thirty two in,
just friggin stop it. Just now, you're cheapening. You're cheaping
it because all you're doing is like a yawner. Okay,
should the first team play if you get sixteen teams?
Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
Now?
Speaker 9 (01:47:07):
The one thing about that, as I do like, is
forget bye weeks one, play sixteen, to play fifteen, and
let's make them all play that. What's the advantage to
be in the number one seed? You get to play
number sixteen, That's what the number one that's what the
advantage is. You get to play the and reseed every time.
If you're the number one team and you get some
upsets along the way, you may be playing three teams
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that are outside the top eight. So yeah, if you
keep wishing for this, the SEC isn't going to get worse.
They're just going to keep you expand they're getting more
teams in. So I would suggest that Greg Sanki gets it,
but an nil and transfer portal, college football doesn't have
a College football's got a little bit of a band,
and I'm telling you there's deep cuts. You've heard two
(01:47:49):
guys now come on today to talk about college football.
Sanke's you know, sees it a little closer. But both
guys know that while football is beloved, there's a lot
of matter of there's more problems in college football than
there is in the NFL. There's so much more to fix,
and it's turned it into a complicated process. But still,
who of us isn't looking forward to the start of
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the season.
Speaker 1 (01:48:12):
Now?
Speaker 8 (01:48:12):
And you know, as you were talking there, I just
started to think about we've already seen what it looks
like once with twelve teams in and how the opening
weekend go all four home teams one, Texas one, Notre
Dame one, Ohio State one, and State one. They all
moved on. But as the thing played out, I mean
two of the teams that made it all the way
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at the end were two of the teams that also
played on that opening weekend, Notre Dame in Ohio State.
Speaker 9 (01:48:38):
Yeah, but there's no doubt they've played on opening weekend,
but they also have the depth to handle, you know,
the what ifs, and they just to go through it.
And they did play in a different format. They may
not have had to play in the opening weekend. But
if you had sixteen teams, listen, if you the only
way I love sixteen teams is if you eliminate a
bye week, if you em andate the buy, make them
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all play, make them all they make them all have
to play. And like I said, the advantages, you get
to play the worst of the sixteen, at least by
the ranking. So now everybody plays. There's no oh, you
got this and why'd they get this bid? And why
did they get this one? Play sixteen and on down.
Other than that, the more isn't the merrier when it
comes to this. It's just when physicality is part of it,
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the rich are going to get richer and they're going
to usually withstand this. That's why those two teams you
mentioned can withstand playing on the first weekend and play
every week and do their thing. So there's a lot
to love, but there's also a ton. At no time
in the history of this game college football have we
needed for a game that we love so much and
anticipate coming around every year. At no time has it
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been more teetering on. It could fall one way and
be great if they do it right, and it can
fall the other way where people are like, nah, this
ain't it, and we are close having both.
Speaker 6 (01:50:00):
We still get the great players.
Speaker 9 (01:50:02):
But if you don't, if it doesn't become about the
great play on the field, then it becomes a problem.
Because that's exactly the pomp and circumstance of college football
is a big reason why we love it. The loyalty,
our commitment to our teams and our university. If you
start to lose that, which we've already started to lose it,
guys are leaving. I love this school, my dad went there,
but not more money here. You start to lose that.
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Then you start to lose that feeling of fan based
loyalty because you are like that guy, his dad went here.
He's leaving for for a one hundred thousand more dollars,
which I get because the rule says you can. But
this is a big time business. That is exactly that,
a business. But you got to be careful because we
still want the purity even though it's not there of
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feeling like it's a amateur sport even though it's a
pro sport. So foolst however you can, but right now,
this is a business and they should be treated as such.
Speaker 8 (01:50:56):
Well, and that's just it. I mean, remember the business
side of it. I've told you numerous times the Football
Playoff is it's a TV show. Get as many eyes,
get as much money that you can flowing into this
thing as possible. And that's why, Sean, I mean you
just talked about it, Rivalries going away, got you know, teams,
switching conferences, whatever it might be. It continues to evolve
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towards that point. And I just think that eventually that's
where this leads, is that they look around and say, oh,
we could add two more games, even more money. Eventually
go to neutral sites where we get these Bowl games,
starting to bid out even.
Speaker 1 (01:51:30):
More money to play these games. Yeah, I think we're
going to go that route.
Speaker 9 (01:51:35):
Yeah, but the eye test, if you keep going and
adding more and more and more teams, the first weekend
will be like the first round of the NBA Playoffs,
where you know that the better team's gonna kick your ass.
Most of the time. There's not enough good teams that
can withstand that. As we going we oh yeah, another
more more money. Oh and when I mentioned to Greg, thankye,
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I know it's revenue, dude. Of course it is if
you follow the money. But at some point in time
the money is gonna have to at least take a
back seat a little bit, or at least control the
money to where you haven't made it obvious to us
that this is no longer a college sport. We've got
general managers, we've got pay for play or play for pay?
(01:52:16):
Should I say we've got I mean once we got
the general manager, and you're gonna need collective bargaining, all
those things you're gonna need, and now you've opened it,
getting back to the way it was will be more
difficult than fixing it on this downhill slide. Great sport,
great game. The business model we got right now absolutely sucks, period.
Speaker 8 (01:52:38):
Man. It just seems like we're getting further and further
away from the former that you just mentioned right there,
and not necessarily the latter. Speaking of everything happening here
at SEC Media Days, it was a busy day around
here yesterday for an inexperienced guy who might have already
had some experience.
Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
We'll talk about it right here.
Speaker 8 (01:52:56):
It is a Sean Salisbury show on a Western Wednesday,
Sports Talks seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
This Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue.
Speaker 8 (01:53:08):
David Cutcliffe a man who knows the mannings pretty well.
He's going to join us as he's now doing some
work with the SEC. But let's squeeze in biscuit wants
to get into biscuit.
Speaker 10 (01:53:18):
Good morning, Hey, top of the morning to you, Hey,
Sean and Dan. When whenever you interview somebody, Sean and
they give answers that like you have you saying hmmm,
I didn't think about it that way. That lets you
know you're dealing with a sharp guy, and that that.
Speaker 12 (01:53:35):
That dude it is now you know why that dude
is a commissioned SEC man. That's a sharp dude.
Speaker 14 (01:53:39):
Man.
Speaker 9 (01:53:40):
You ain't lying, and that's why that's why they keep
him there because he's a powerful man that gets it
very very He's got great business acumen, no kid, no
no doubt about that.
Speaker 10 (01:53:50):
Right.
Speaker 12 (01:53:51):
Uh, did Sean maybe I call it lad? Was there
a question about the A and M player? Did you
ask him a question from vision to come back?
Speaker 9 (01:54:01):
We did not ask him about that I've been asked
about that.
Speaker 6 (01:54:05):
A number of times.
Speaker 9 (01:54:07):
I'll tell you there's there, there is a place where
you can actually if you do not get if you're
let's say you're drafted to fifteenth pick of the first
round and you do not sign. Now, I don't know
with all the different you know, it seems like that
we move the goalpost on rules and regulations every year.
But I can tell you this, it is in place
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unless in the last year they've gotten rid of it.
That you if you don't get drafted and sign a contract.
Now I don't know about the agent thing. If you've
started negotiations, can you go back that there is a
place that if you did not get draft, if you
got drafted and did not sign a contract, you could
go back. Now the question is back in the draft
for the next year, where you just train in the
offseason and go back the following year, or go back
(01:54:50):
and play like in the NBA, you know in the past,
where you don't hire an agent, go back and it
does exist. It's not just a fake thing. Now whether
he can go practice with them? Has it changed with
nil and all that? Were you Once you've been drafted.
Now you've got to go through this. You can't play
for us, but you got it, but you can. You
can go back into the draft if you do not
sign a contract, you absolutely can. But as far as
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as far as being able to if a him watch
you back, if am watching back, I still believe the
rule is if Anon wanted it back and he hasn't
signed a contract, he can actually go back and play
and get himself back into the twenty twenty six draft.
So if this isn't just fake news where he had
that that option and that option has been available in
the past, and I still think it is now.
Speaker 20 (01:55:37):
Another thing Dan, And from the interview of the guy Sean,
it seemed like there's two things that play and you
you you address one of them Sean. Either you're gonna
have bys or you're gonna have sixteen team. You can't
have Bob Man sixteen. Either gonna do away with the
buys and has and he's not the SEC commissioner not
worried about it, because if you're right, if it add.
Speaker 12 (01:55:59):
More teams, go bect.
Speaker 20 (01:56:01):
He seems added.
Speaker 12 (01:56:03):
The other thing though, Dan, and maybe I took.
Speaker 20 (01:56:05):
More out of it, was to me calendar. It seems
like a bigger issue and were really giving it the
way he made it sound, it's saying like how they
going to be able to fit it all in if
they had more teams and still had a season in
by a certain date. That's what it seemed like. He
was saying that it's a problem with the calendar and
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to trying to fit it all in.
Speaker 1 (01:56:29):
Yeah, I appreciate the call.
Speaker 8 (01:56:30):
I mean, that is one thing though, to Sean that
I do appreciate. The RUSE is no longer around of amateurism,
and it's almost you know, school presidents, ads, commissioners, these
student athletes, Like don't you kind of notice that's starting
to go away? Like it's almost like now like all right,
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people know that amateurism and everything's out the window.
Speaker 1 (01:56:55):
Like these guys are making tons of money.
Speaker 8 (01:56:57):
They're pros already now that you know, we don't have
to continue to label them as such. And I think
you go even further. The school calendar doesn't matter at
this point. You can take classes online. All of that's
out the window. You can try to use that as
an excuse, and that's exactly what it is. It's not
even it's not even a valid one.
Speaker 9 (01:57:16):
I know students now that are in universities that ninety
percent of there, that the most of them don't even
show up to class ever, are that live at the university.
I can tell you that they do a bunch of
their classes online that they just if the old days
of a I'll see the same person on campus state
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they may live across the street and you may not
see them in your you know, in the lecture for
a while. And you're exactly right. And I'm I am
complete agreement with you on the calendar thing. And I
like to appreciate the question from Biscuit and I when
it comes to this, because first of all, from about
mid December to mid to late January, they're they're not
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in school. There's no school, and so if you play
it for four or five this is the time they're
just away on their holidays. And so yeah, I don't
want there where you're playing it all in December and
half of January. I don't need it to be the
NBA playoffs that I don't need. But if you start
the playoffs in mid December, whenever you do, there'll be
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enough time they can do that. But the more you
do it four games, five game, we don't need thirty
two teams. The sixteen's the max, and like I said,
you would have to do away with by weeks. And
I'm okay with that part. But past that can't do
it anymore. And I'm not worried about And when we say,
well the academic load, they're not student athletes anymore.
Speaker 6 (01:58:36):
They're just not.
Speaker 9 (01:58:37):
Now some may have that priority, it's not fair to
say that they're not going to class.
Speaker 6 (01:58:40):
I don't know who is or who isn't. But let's
face facts.
Speaker 9 (01:58:42):
The first thing that comes up ain't in the when
you're interviewing a guy for to give them a scholarship,
or you're going through the recruiting process. Rarely is somebody
a parent walking in and saying, hey, do they have
his major? Are you going to look after my son?
Do we are we assure? How's the tutoring going on?
It's now become And I've talked to coaches. Money's always
(01:59:04):
mentioned in the first three questions by the kid or
the parent. What are you gonna what are you gonna do?
Does he got a chance to start? How much time
you on national TV? What are you doing offensively or defensively? Oh,
by the way, that that question doesn't come up anymore.
So it it used to be. And I know guys
that didn't go to a school because they didn't have
the major that were dedicated to school at their school,
so they went and played or went to school somewhere else.
(01:59:25):
So that's out. I don't refer to them as student
athletes anymore. If I do, it's on accident out because
that's not what they are. That's not They're athletes first,
and the student education thing is just the add on,
that's the extra curriculuar.
Speaker 6 (01:59:39):
Soh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 9 (01:59:40):
Got to keep eligible during football and hopefully and maybe
go back and get my degree. But the most part
now referring to them as student athletes is just is
you got it backwards. It's athletes, student first, and cash
on hand.
Speaker 8 (01:59:53):
Well, and I mean it only seems like that's increasing
by the day. As so we continue along, but we
you continue along here from SEC media days as coming
up next, we are expected to be joined by the
Special Assistant for Football Relations to Commissioner Greg Sanki in
the SEC. Oh yeah, he was also a football coach
(02:00:14):
who coached some famous quarterbacks. We'll talk with David Cutcliffe
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Me and Gordy in the building for that over at
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I mean, you've been on plenty of radio rows before that,
your scheduled to have somebody join and then it's oh, hey,
this last one ran a little bit late, so he's
got to go do somebody else and he's gonna come back.
So coming up next segment, we're gonna hear from David Cutcliffe,
but he did coach Eli in college and Peyton as
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an oc at Tennessee, and now he knows a little
bit about Arch Manning, who we're gonna get to see
this year. And yesterday he in the Texas contingent came
through year. It was his first chance to be able
to meet with the media and the only other time
that I think I can remember this much pomp and
circumstance about a player here at SEC Media Days was
(02:02:10):
my very first media days, and that was Johnny Football
after he won his Heisman and Tebow a few years
ago before that. Because it was so big for him,
they didn't just have him at one of these breakout podiums.
They had Tebow at the main podium in the room
because they knew that everybody and then some would be
around him at the podium. But a lot of hype
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around Arch Manning heading into this season.
Speaker 9 (02:02:35):
And rightfully so, man, I mean this is and he
said that, yeah, what if I played two games, I
got to prove it. That's a guy who gets it.
Here's a top recruit. The privilege of being a Manning name,
if that's what you want to call it. But those
Mannings didn't get privileged by every single one of them
worked their ass off to have an opportunity to do it.
They studied harder, they played better in big games, and
(02:02:58):
they doesn't. And I got news for you. Cooper is
as smart and as good as any. I'm the father
of Arch, and the grandfather was pretty good too. They've
had a process and stuck to it with all their family.
This is how they do things, and they've been able
to adjust and adapt when necessary, and they've just gone listen,
We're at a time when most high profile quarterbacks would
(02:03:20):
not have waited it out.
Speaker 6 (02:03:22):
They just wouldn't have.
Speaker 9 (02:03:23):
So they trust Sarkisian, they trust what's going on with
with Texas football, and they trust Arch to take care
of it.
Speaker 6 (02:03:31):
Now.
Speaker 9 (02:03:32):
Is he a two year guy when it comes to starter?
Is he a one year guy? But it doesn't shock
me that his approach is, yeah, all this, I got
to go prove it because you know what, guess Peyton's
not throwing it. And one thing I know he does
better than both him and Eli is he's got better
feet than both of them combined. So he gives you
some legs and some movement that they didn't now think
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about that you're at a high profile program with one
of the best play callers and head coaches in the world.
You've got all this, You've been in waiting and waiting.
We've had this appetizer for we're going on three years now.
Hell we even had it when he was in high
school waiting on arch manning. But every step of the
process has been I'm telling you, this isn't just by
chance for them. They're methodical and they know exactly what
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they're doing. Now he's got to go put up. He's
got to go play. The expectations are high, even with
those guys, with Tebow and his performance. Those two guys,
their performance led to constant pub Johnny didn't have anywhere
near this. As matter of fact, he was a fourth
or fifth guy on the roster coming out of high school.
So he wasn't that guy when he got there. And
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even Tim Tebow, who was highly publicized, became that guy
while he was the starter. This guy became that guy
while he was a junior in high school. So he's
got to deal with all the pub he's got to
deal with expectations, he's got to deal with big shoes
to fill because the family and how he handles media, interviews, everything,
every single thing. And I got news for you. They've
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planned for this. They didn't just say, hey, yeah, arch
Heer's how you handle that. He's watched his his dad
handle the media about him. He's watched Peyton and Eli
and Archie handle the media, and hey, how to be
a pro, how to be a teammate. Listen, when you're
the number one recruit in the country or right near it,
when you come out in your last name's Manning, you
it'd be easy to walk into a building say what
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do I have to earn? You know what I've done? Yeah,
we saw what you did in high school. So I
love the fact that already he said, I've played what
two games, I've got to go out and earn it.
I love it, and I think, uh, I think it'll
it'll It'll help arch Manning on the next step. And
I love the approach because don't kid yourself.
Speaker 6 (02:05:33):
I'm sure. And Cooper's funny.
Speaker 9 (02:05:34):
His dad, he's a fun guy, and I'm sure his dad,
who loves and supports him, has put it up there
say now it's on, you go do your thing, and
they would. They won't micro manage that. They'll let him
go play. Nothing worse than a quarterback than having clutter,
and that that that family does a great job and
always has an eliminating clutter from their minds from it,
(02:05:55):
their their their their, their circle of people, and they
get it and so does arch Manning. Now if he
goes and performs, then what oh my gosh. To be
able to live up to that and go perform, he
is obviously the most talked about, but also even if
we weren't talking about him, we are intrigued to see
what he and Sark do together and that Texas Longhorned
team and you know, it's been a minute since they've
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won the national title, and I know people are excited
about him, but I love his approach to it thinking
he's still got to go prove it. And that's saying
something at a time of entitlement for these kids who
are getting paid more money than the guy that's going
to coach them in their quarterback room in college.
Speaker 8 (02:06:32):
Yeah, that was the experience that I was talking about.
And clearly yesterday he did not want to make a
story of himself with his words, much more with his play.
All right, promise coming up next, we're gonna hear from
Dave Cutcliffe, who is now with the SEC and of
course talking about the Mannings.
Speaker 1 (02:06:49):
He knows much about them.
Speaker 8 (02:06:51):
We'll catch up with him here live in Atlanta at
SEC Media Days here on the Sean Salisbury Show, Sports
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Speaker 2 (02:08:37):
Hi less know.
Speaker 8 (02:08:40):
He is David Cutcliffe and he joins us right now.
Coach really appreciate your time today. And you know you
had experience coming through here, sitting down, putting on the headsets,
going to the podium and doing all of those different
types of things.
Speaker 1 (02:08:53):
But I mean, how much has this whole thing changed
since you were doing that.
Speaker 21 (02:08:58):
I have to remind our co Is and I do
all the time. This is called football media days. Come
here not to hit all the hot item buttons. Come
here to talk about your program, your team, the individual players,
your staff. Prepare yourself to focus on what matters most
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and that's your people. So it hasn't changed in all
that many ways other than it's gotten bigger. Now I'm
talking to people in Houston, Texas, by the way, one
of the great high school football areas in this whole country.
Speaker 18 (02:09:38):
But yeah, it's it's bigger and it's going.
Speaker 1 (02:09:42):
To continue to change.
Speaker 21 (02:09:43):
But the core value system doesn't have to change unless
you've just let it.
Speaker 9 (02:09:50):
Coach at this time of year, first of all, thanks
for joining. It's always great to talk to you. At
this time of year. Your year start to get beads
of sweat. You're a coach man, I know you're doing
great things. Absolutely at this time of year has got
to me you're preparing for your opener, getting your team ready.
Speaker 6 (02:10:06):
How are you right now? And are you do you
want to coach again?
Speaker 18 (02:10:11):
I want to, but I won't.
Speaker 21 (02:10:13):
I could coach another seventy years if the Good Lord
would let me.
Speaker 18 (02:10:17):
I miss it.
Speaker 2 (02:10:18):
Uh.
Speaker 21 (02:10:18):
Peyton stays on me all the time. He said, man,
you know things other people don't know. You need to
still be coaching. And then he gets Tom Moore to
call me, and Tom Moore insults me and calls me soft.
Speaker 18 (02:10:30):
You know, Coach Moore still.
Speaker 9 (02:10:31):
Going in that great boys coach Moore who's been coaching
for like eighty years and is one of the greatest
p He was my coach in Minnesota. Love him and
he gave you that a running again. I'm sure Peyton's
imitating you.
Speaker 1 (02:10:44):
Are short man.
Speaker 9 (02:10:47):
How are you resisting at coach? I mean, you're your guy, Peyton.
We're all we all want to know.
Speaker 6 (02:10:52):
Why? So why not?
Speaker 1 (02:10:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 21 (02:10:54):
I got ten grandchildren, forty seven years of coach, and
I have in my mind maybe fifty would have been right,
but I stopped at forty seven. And I have one
of the greatest human beings as a life partner in
my wife, and I do I pray about it, and
I've turned down jobs and opportunities. I think about the
(02:11:17):
NFL because how much fun it would be to take
one guy and have him, you know, for eight or
nine years or whatever it may be. Because I really
think that's the place you can make a difference with
a guy. And that's why I was fortunate that Peyton
and Eli always came back and spent time. And then
I'm doing some coaching right now. Daniel Jones has gone
(02:11:39):
through a lot. He came and stayed with me a
week and we man, we had fun.
Speaker 18 (02:11:44):
I'm coaching him. I got him moving around so fast.
Speaker 21 (02:11:47):
He's like, I could get that tired. And I said, Daniel,
let's get going, man. You need to play faster, think
faster and anyway. Yeah, that's not an answer, but that's
what I feel. You can see I'm all over the play.
Speaker 9 (02:12:02):
Well, at least we got you can at least thinking
about it. But those grandkids, I get it. Coach, with
the impact you've made there and you've seen You've been
through a lot of changes as a coach when you
first started to where we are now. So all that
time in between and the state of college football, do
you like it.
Speaker 1 (02:12:21):
I don't love where we are.
Speaker 21 (02:12:23):
I'm going to start calling it higher education football because
what's been life changing about it. And Sean, you would
know this, and I believe agree to this that the
education you get.
Speaker 18 (02:12:35):
On a football field, on a football.
Speaker 21 (02:12:37):
Team, within the institution of higher education is what gives
you the opportunity to be a successful person. And one
of my favorite words is community. And we're all involved
in a lot of different communities.
Speaker 1 (02:12:52):
And you know what, my hope.
Speaker 21 (02:12:54):
For all of our players through the years is whatever
community they go to, whether it's their church community, whether
it's the community they live in their own families, that
they're going to have a resourceful, successful life because they're
educated people.
Speaker 18 (02:13:09):
So that's the part.
Speaker 21 (02:13:11):
And I don't like transactional relationships. I want some sheer
and genuine relationships to still be a big part of
what we're doing.
Speaker 8 (02:13:23):
David Cutcliffe again, long time at college football coach, now
working with the SEC, join us here on the Shawn
Salisbury Show. So story comes out yesterday as me and
Shaumer is talking about arch Manning making his rounds here.
Speaker 1 (02:13:35):
You were the first coach to offer him a scholarship.
Speaker 21 (02:13:38):
Absolutely man Day was born, I was a head coach
at Ole Missa. At the time, I had a courier
to take scholarship papers over there, and I told Cooper
and Ellen, nobody will be behead of me now, nobody.
Unfortunately I didn't stay in that position to back it
up years later. But Coop would bring hide and our
(02:14:00):
and we'd spend time together. They even came up to
Duke and loved working out with him. I met with
him yesterday morning before it all started and just you know,
to tell him I love him and wish him well.
And then I gave him the Big two and Sean,
I'm interested in what you think of the Big two,
and he knew.
Speaker 18 (02:14:19):
He looked at me and said Big two right, and
I said yes.
Speaker 21 (02:14:22):
I said Number one will always you work every day
at becoming the best teammate in the program, and right
now today is a great way to display it. Talk
about your teammates. You don't have to center anything. You're
going to be asked a lot of questions to talk
about your teammates.
Speaker 1 (02:14:40):
Number two is that we don't work football.
Speaker 21 (02:14:43):
Nobody goes out and say, hey man, let's go work
some football. You say, let's go play football. And I said,
I want to see you smile some but you better
not forget we're.
Speaker 1 (02:14:51):
Playing a game. We're playing football.
Speaker 21 (02:14:55):
Enjoy it, and you know, I think he was appreciative
of that feeling. And then I will say this. I
don't know if they'll publicize it, and maybe I shouldn't say.
Speaker 18 (02:15:04):
It, but I push people here.
Speaker 21 (02:15:06):
The day before, they had Archie's jersey out because old
Miss and Kiffin were here, so I told him to
go find it and we got some pictures of arch
here in the Hall of Fame holding Archie's jersey. I
called his dad, we sent it to them, and I
haven't called Archie yet. I'm gonna wait till all this
is over, but I'm certain they've put it in front
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of them, and I put it in front.
Speaker 18 (02:15:29):
Of Peyton and Eli.
Speaker 21 (02:15:30):
But that was emotional for me to see arch Manning
holding Archie Manning's college jersey so many years after his
dad been in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (02:15:44):
And you know, we're just all of it pretty cool.
Speaker 9 (02:15:47):
Well, Coach, your impact on the Manning family and vice versa.
I mean, you guys relationship has been obviously well documented,
but those of us who love football and love what
you guys have done together is pretty cool. And with
Arch coming along, and you are so right about the
big two hand, the fact that I call when you
need to talk about talk about your teammates to buy in.
Your teammates need to buy into the guy that's leading them,
and you've got to be one of them. So I'll
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ask you this. You've seen Eli coached him, You've trained
these guys, You've worked with these guys in quarterbacks all over.
You know, the Manning family. I love when Art said,
you know what, I played two games man, I got
to go prove it. What's going to make him special?
With all this pressure on him?
Speaker 21 (02:16:27):
Yeah, you know, it all goes well. I'm and I
told a reminded Cooper of this yesterday on the phone.
He has elite work ethic. He has elite preparation focus.
If and you know this, I mean if you can
shit a lot of time and watch tape, if you're
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not watching it correctly, if you're not charting things you're seeing,
if you're not taking notes, if you're not elite in
the process, you have no chance of being elite as
a player. He has boatloads of talent, But I can
show you other people that had boatloads of talent that
did not make an elite status.
Speaker 1 (02:17:09):
And he understands that.
Speaker 21 (02:17:10):
We've talked about that we're all a product of our
daily habits, not just on the field, but off and
so I think his habits are outstanding. He has a
great love for the game. He's not playing quote for money.
You would know maybe better than I, But the NFL
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guys that were extremely successful weren't focused on playing for money.
They had a focus on being great, you know. So
I think every opportunity is there. I pray for good
health for him. That's never guaranteed. I'll remind all of them,
the greatest friends you have is a run game. Don't
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ever complain about running for four hundred yards if you're
a quarterback, okay, And then we all know that we're
offensive lineman, sorry, receivers. Offense of linemen are more important
than receivers, okay, because those receivers don't mind her if
your offense of lines not good enough. So a lot
of things involved. But let me tell you what he knows.
Speaker 18 (02:18:13):
How to work. I've worked with him personally.
Speaker 21 (02:18:15):
He knows exactly how to work a watching practice. He
makes practice like a game. And I'm not giving that
lip service.
Speaker 1 (02:18:23):
That's real.
Speaker 9 (02:18:24):
Hey, coach, you know what, we definitely know that he
got grandpa's jeans.
Speaker 6 (02:18:27):
That will give him an advantage.
Speaker 9 (02:18:30):
He may be able to backpedal with better feet than
both Tayton and he like a mind.
Speaker 6 (02:18:33):
So those got that advantage on those question.
Speaker 1 (02:18:36):
He can take off and run with it.
Speaker 21 (02:18:37):
But I'm going to remind him there's other people on
that other side of the line of scrimmage that can
run right to be smart.
Speaker 6 (02:18:45):
Okay, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (02:18:48):
There we go again.
Speaker 8 (02:18:49):
SEC Special Assistant to the Commissioner for Football Relations and
also former college football coach David Cutliff joined us here
on the Shan saw Very show.
Speaker 1 (02:19:00):
Coach, really appreciated again, and we'll like, thank you.
Speaker 14 (02:19:04):
I love what you guys are doing.
Speaker 21 (02:19:06):
And we got a great game and remember higher education football.
Speaker 9 (02:19:11):
There you go, coach, It's always great to talk to you.
Sure appreciate you. Thank you, talk to you.
Speaker 8 (02:19:15):
Okay, there you go, David Cutcliffe. And man, those stories, Man,
that that was the best part of that.
Speaker 9 (02:19:21):
I'm going to tell you, well, he'd have a thousand
of them, co Coach Cutcliffe. Coach Cutcliffe is known for
his stories. He's seen a lot of football man. I'm
going to tell you that we talk about all the
brilliant like young minds, and there's a lot of them
out there.
Speaker 6 (02:19:33):
We see him coach all over the place. You can
do a lot.
Speaker 9 (02:19:36):
First of all, Daniel Jones working with you know Coach
Cutcliffe as he obviously knows him from the past because
he coached him a good, smart move, smart move. This
is one of the more brilliant uh well. First of all,
his integrity as a head coach and a person is
through the roof. Coach Cutcliffe is widely known around all
walks of life, NFL, college, high school as one of
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the more brilliant and great football minds. And you can
tell how his methodical approach doesn't it match the Mannings
and what they're trying to get accomplished. There is a
formula that he lives by and he doesn't waiver from it.
I love him and in truth, I wish we could
talk him out of it. Ten grandkids. Maybe if you
can get those ten grandkids to convince him, that would
(02:20:19):
be cool. But it'd be nice to see him get
there and in the NFL. Give him Daniel Jones or
give him one of these young quarterbacks nine or ten years.
I got news for you. You bring that talent to
coach Clutcliff, you will walk away better period. So it's
always nice to talk football with him. He's a guy Dan.
If you said, Sean picked fifteen guys that you want
to sit down coaches, former coaches or current coaches, and
(02:20:41):
he said, you want to sit down and talk offensive
and defensive football and life with him, he's got to
see at the table on my invites. He would have
a fifteen to top fifteen, top ten sea at the
table because not only how he's coached, who he's coached,
how he approaches it, because there's a different he may
it different than others, but I got news for the
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end result is usually pretty successful. If David Cutcliffe would
have been the head coach at tennessee David Cutcliffe at
a place now, not saying Duke camp at the academic
load and all that.
Speaker 6 (02:21:13):
If you if you would have given him.
Speaker 9 (02:21:14):
A top notch get ten star, four or five star
guys a year, you're looking at a guy who has
a ring on his finger as a head coach. I'm
just telling you he's beloved in all phases. Hence why
Greg SANKI has him there on his staff as well.
Speaker 8 (02:21:31):
No, I mean, and you know, as we just heard
talking with him too, I mean, a great guy. You know,
really enjoyed having that conversation with him. But I mean
also what you mentioned about the Mannings. I mean we
know that when it comes to film, work, preparation, everything else,
there seemingly is nobody even still that rivals Peyton.
Speaker 1 (02:21:49):
And I mean the fact that he.
Speaker 8 (02:21:51):
Trusts him as much as he does, it speaks about
his knowledge.
Speaker 1 (02:21:55):
As you just pointed out to.
Speaker 9 (02:21:56):
Due, there will be nobody in football that Peyton Manning
would if he had outside his own family. I don't
believe that if he said I need some life advice
outside his family, life advice and football advice the first call.
I believe Tom Moore would be one of them who
coached us in Minnesota. Tom Moore coach Terry Bradshaw, he
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came through Minnesota, he coached in Arizona, He's coached a
lot of places. He's coach Manning, he's coach Brady. Well,
one of these things is not like the other. We
got to have Tom Moore with me and Wade Wilson
and Rich Cannon. Phenomenal coach. He would go through Tom
or David Cutcliffe. Those two are sitting in the room
with Peyton Manning when you want to talk football in life,
and you can do a lot worse.
Speaker 6 (02:22:37):
There's no question, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:22:39):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 8 (02:22:40):
Speaking of coaches, we got another one coming up. As
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Georgia head coach Kirby Smart and I mentioned the local ties. Well,
there's a lot of those ties that will be discussed
in this conversation. We'll have that for you here as
we continue on the Sean Salisbury Show. Dan Matthews in
Atlanta at SEC Meet Days, Sean Tripoli back in studio
(02:23:03):
as we'll continue to roll along in your Sports Talk
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The seven ninety listener line here in the nine o'clock
hour is presented by one eight hundred car Cash Talk
with Greg Sank You earlier called him the most powerful
man in college sports. How about one of the most
powerful coaches in all of college football, Kirby Smart and
a guy that knows the Houston area.
Speaker 6 (02:25:04):
Well, are you asking me a question or throwing to
the tape?
Speaker 1 (02:25:12):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (02:25:13):
Okay, So what's your question to me?
Speaker 1 (02:25:17):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (02:25:18):
Just about Kirby Smart and just what he's been able
to do it.
Speaker 6 (02:25:20):
Yeah, he's been too.
Speaker 1 (02:25:21):
I mean he's recruiting prowess.
Speaker 9 (02:25:22):
Yeah, he's spectacular, and I'd be curious if I know
that this bothers a lot of coaches this state of
the game. But I also know that he's one of
the great adjusters in game and out of game, and
I know he's a scorekeeper when it comes to want
this national title. He's one of my favorite coaches in
college football because he's no nonsense and he wants players
(02:25:43):
to play for them because they love Georgia. But he
also understands that the rules say you can pay players
and do all that with nil, so you got to
stay involved to keep up. But I think he's one
of college football's best coaches. Yeah, we cover all of
that in our conversation.
Speaker 8 (02:25:57):
Me and Chris Gordy able to catch up with head
coach of the George Bulldogs yesterday here at SEC Media Days.
You know, with football kicking off here pretty soon, I
note that you know, you go all over the country
when it comes to recruiting, but.
Speaker 1 (02:26:09):
We're in Houston.
Speaker 8 (02:26:10):
You got some guys that you've been able to add
to your program over the years out of the Houston area.
What is it about the high school football not only there,
but just in the state of Texas.
Speaker 13 (02:26:19):
Great programs they do a tremendous job.
Speaker 22 (02:26:21):
You know, the foundation is having financial independence and financial
support to pay coaches and have facilities and grow kids.
And tell you what they got them. They got facilities,
they've got kids, They've got a youth programs, they grow kids.
Speaker 13 (02:26:37):
Just the state of Texas is loaded with the good
football players.
Speaker 23 (02:26:40):
Talking about coach Kirby smart coach I was. I was
down there in New Orleans at the Senior Bowl. Everything
just seemed off that weekend, not just not with football,
but you know, obviously the terror attack and obviously lost
your dad ndulences on.
Speaker 13 (02:26:52):
That, but I was at the game.
Speaker 23 (02:26:54):
It just things just didn't seem it felt out of sync.
Did it feel that way to you, I mean, it
just felt everything changing and you can't control some of
those things, but it just felt very odd.
Speaker 22 (02:27:04):
Yeah, you know, he's set to play one day, then
it changes to the next.
Speaker 13 (02:27:07):
Both teams have to deal with it.
Speaker 22 (02:27:08):
It was very unique in dealing with the transition of time.
Speaker 13 (02:27:13):
But I mean we didn't play our best game.
Speaker 22 (02:27:15):
We gave up a touchdown return on a kickoff, a
kickoff turner touchdown, which is very unlike us, and turn
the ball over. So if you lose spect teams and
lose turnover battle, you're not gonna win any games good.
Speaker 8 (02:27:28):
I was gonna say again, Kirby Smart, join us here
at SEC media Days and in that game though, that
was the first one that Gunner ever started for you guys,
after he came in in relief in the SEC Championship game.
What did it say about him to have all that
put on him and to still go out there and
perform the way he did well?
Speaker 22 (02:27:44):
It was the defense he's going against was a very
unique defense. They were a hardcore man to man team.
They don't give you many easy throws, so he ended
up with really nice percentage of completion rate. But you know,
you can't find easy throws when people just play manna
man and Notre Dame was known for that. They were
a really good defensive football team. And we couldn't run
the ball very good. So when you don't run the
ball very good, you put a lot of pressure on
(02:28:06):
your quarterback.
Speaker 23 (02:28:07):
I've said this before you your teams. You've earned the
benefit of the doubt when it comes to rebuild versus reload.
Georgia doesn't rebuild, they reload.
Speaker 14 (02:28:15):
It's next man up. You guys have recruited so well.
Speaker 23 (02:28:18):
It seems like in this day and age of portal
and everybody jumping from one school, the actually all have
done a still a pretty darn good job of maintaining
that depth. And hey, you're not playing much of this year,
but you're gonna play next year and maintaining that two
three man.
Speaker 22 (02:28:31):
Yeah, I don't know about three, but two. I mean,
it's it's it's it's harder than it's ever been before.
You're trying to stack them up, have them in line,
and you know, Wills, we all know in the SEC
it's so brutally you could lose one any time, and
you got to have a second guy ready, and that's
that's that's been a challenge in recent years.
Speaker 8 (02:28:48):
Dylan Bell is a Houston area guy, and I know
he's got He's a guy that's been in your program
for quite some time. Just what's you mean to not
on all your program but also your receiver room.
Speaker 13 (02:28:57):
I love Dyling.
Speaker 22 (02:28:58):
He's a he's a high school running back from Kincaid
and he's just gotten better and better and better. He's
a workman like approach to things, very quiet, leader, great,
great mom. She works with tail Off and she's proud
of him, and you know, he's very talented. He can
do a lot of different things. He's hard to tackle
because he's a big, physical guy. So we're excited to
have him back and hoping he's gonna have a super year.
Speaker 23 (02:29:20):
You got a stud a couple of studs there with you,
see Jallen and Dyalen Everett. I mean it starts on defense,
but I don't know. When I talk to these guys,
they're just tough, hard nosed guys. Seems to be that
pedigree you always have in defensive players.
Speaker 22 (02:29:32):
Yeah, you try to recruit that, but then you try
to train it into him too, So it takes both.
Speaker 13 (02:29:37):
And I've been really proud of those guys.
Speaker 8 (02:29:39):
Do you find in this new age of football where
you like to be a developmental program? You like to
be able to have guys that they know what the
expectations are. Do you see that you have to kind
of adjust the way that you go about things or
is it this is the way we do it.
Speaker 1 (02:29:53):
Either you can do it or you don't.
Speaker 13 (02:29:54):
Well, we always want to be a developmental program. We're
gonna grow guys and get guys better.
Speaker 22 (02:30:00):
I'm very open to change and trying to grow kids
and be more patient now than we used to because
you're really trying to set your depth and create an
advantage for freshman sophomores. By the time they've been there
two years, you better know what you got because.
Speaker 13 (02:30:15):
Otherwise they won't be there for long.
Speaker 23 (02:30:16):
When you got the Georgia, you had to, you know,
hit the ground running and really start to build this thing.
But the success of the program over the years has
it become maybe not an easier sell, but I mean,
is it a little bit easier now with kids they
know what they're getting when you come in, they see
the big g Well, I think you.
Speaker 22 (02:30:32):
Get credibility with the wins, you get credibility with the
national championships. That credibility gets you in the door. But
when they look inside the door, you've got to have
the right things set up.
Speaker 13 (02:30:40):
You know, you have your living room in your dining room.
Speaker 22 (02:30:43):
All decorated the right way. Otherwise it doesn't matter what
you do on the games.
Speaker 1 (02:30:49):
Final one for you.
Speaker 8 (02:30:50):
I know that, as mentioned, we're in Houston and last
year Kamari Laster had a hell of a year for
the Texans and then a guy that I know means
a lot to you, Nick Chubb.
Speaker 1 (02:30:58):
Signing this offt Seale And I mean, I don't know
how much Sundays.
Speaker 8 (02:31:01):
You get to watch, but is it safe to say
you're gonna be watching a few more Houston Texan games?
Speaker 22 (02:31:05):
Absolutely, both sides of the ball. I always want to
get to watch a game. I' might do we have
him my own offense? Do you have him my own defense?
We got somebody on both those. So it's great getting
to watch those guys compete and grow. And Kamari is
such a special kid and meant so much to our program.
Speaker 13 (02:31:19):
And we all know what Nick's done and what he's overcome.
So they're both winners.
Speaker 1 (02:31:23):
Plus Kamar he gets to play for Dimiko too. Thanks guy.
I know you have a lot of respect for.
Speaker 13 (02:31:27):
Him, a lot of respect for Demiko and he does
it the right way man.
Speaker 1 (02:31:30):
For sure.
Speaker 8 (02:31:31):
Again, Coach Kirby Smart join us here at SEC media Days.
Speaker 1 (02:31:34):
Coach really appreciated best of luck this season.
Speaker 13 (02:31:36):
Appreciate you, Thank you guys.
Speaker 4 (02:31:38):
Right after this, the Shawn Salisbury Show continued, you know
one of them at least on his side, but obviously
this is a coaching in general thing.
Speaker 1 (02:31:50):
Didn't you like his line to his question from.
Speaker 8 (02:31:53):
Gordy about you know, you you you're able to go
out with the logo and you know what the program
is reputaeation wise right now. And his answer was, yeah,
you know, it's nice to have all that on the outside,
But then you got to open the door of the
house and you got to make sure that the house
looks good.
Speaker 9 (02:32:08):
Oh, there's no doubt when the house looks good at
what's going on. Not only the house looks good in
literally in the facility and all that because players' eyes
get wide, but also that the house looks good with
wins and and polished up.
Speaker 6 (02:32:21):
And ready to go.
Speaker 9 (02:32:21):
That this is a program that you want to be
a part of. So he gets that. He also gets
the money side of it, and he also gets the
work side of it, how important it is to not
let the wins and losses fast or too long.
Speaker 6 (02:32:34):
He's really really good at his job, for sure.
Speaker 8 (02:32:37):
He is in you know, the local side of it too.
You heard me at the end talk about to Kamari
Lasster Nick Chubb, two guys that he knows really well
from coaching at Georgia.
Speaker 1 (02:32:46):
We know them now.
Speaker 8 (02:32:47):
At least last, we'll get to know Nick Chubb this
season with the Texans, and you know what he said
about Tamiko Ryans, the respect he has for him. But
think about it from Nick Chubb's perspective, and this is
something that maybe I would love to have as a
follow up, is Chubb was there remember Sean at Georgia
when they made it back to the national title for
the first time in a while.
Speaker 1 (02:33:07):
And what are the Texans trying to do.
Speaker 8 (02:33:09):
They're trying to finally get to the championship games AFC
in the Super Bowl as a hole, So I mean
him CJ. Gardner Johnson being brought to the Texans. You know,
we talk about phases of trying to get towards that
goal with the Rockets, doesn't they kind of feel like
the Texans are in that phase now of Hey, let's
bring guys in that know what it's like to be
able to try to play for these things.
Speaker 9 (02:33:30):
Well, not only that, guys who've had success individually in
this league and also have hit some adversity and have
worked their way out of it. And I believe this
that if Nick Chubb and Joe Mixon are fully healthy,
you find me maybe outside of what Detroit they got
(02:33:52):
both their backs right, They kept both their backs are
excuse me, are there? I'm pretty sure? Right yeah, Gibbs
and whom leaving out? Why did I lose my mind about?
Speaker 1 (02:34:02):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (02:34:03):
Dog gone, I was gonna say, you were gonna say Montgomery, Montgomery,
right right right there you go. I think that if
if with those two they're they're pretty good. But if
Mixing and Nick Chubb are healthy, I'd like you to
find me a better one two punch in the league
at that position. And it's not in San Francisco, it's
(02:34:23):
not Miami, it's not in Baltimore. They got a real big,
real good there's a lot of them with one real
good back. But find me somebody who the backup guy
would start for most teams went healthy. So Mixing and
Nick Chubb, if Nick Chubb is back to being Nick Chubb,
and he's probably gonna run angry. We already know Mixing
(02:34:44):
doesn't running angry because of you know, the injury and Cleveland.
You know, I don't want to say quit on him,
but moved on from him.
Speaker 1 (02:34:51):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (02:34:52):
This is this is a this is a steal.
Speaker 9 (02:34:55):
We we talked about Mixing coming here last year, excuse me,
and how important it was. This is great because Joe
may not have to get as much load, but still
give you the same production. This is when healthy, in
my opinion, the best one to two punch in football
at that position. Detroit's really good. There's some good ones.
There's nobody better if both these guys are right. I
(02:35:16):
think this is a sneaky smart back to back years
of really really good and smart gets by the Texans
when it comes to that position, in a position that
needed addressed over these last couple of years to get
more physical, and they did just that.
Speaker 8 (02:35:33):
It was pretty simple last year, Sean, when Joe Mixon
ran the football and the Texans ran the football, they won.
When he didn't, CJ. Stroud struggled. It really boiled down
to that very simply.
Speaker 6 (02:35:44):
I'm good.
Speaker 9 (02:35:45):
Running back always helps man and it makes everything better
and play action becomes so much more prevalent.
Speaker 1 (02:35:51):
There you go.
Speaker 8 (02:35:52):
You know it's that's gonna do it for us here
today on this Sean Salisbury Show, Dan Matthews, Sean Salisbury, Tripoli,
Emmanuel More of The Matt Thomas Show, with Ross coming
your way right here from ten to two on at
Sports Talk seven ninety. We will talk to you in
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