MLB All-Star Week Recap, Bronny James Breakthrough Game, Caitlin Clark New WNBA Record

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Okay, let's do this. SeanSalisbury, there to usc true, longtime
friend shown Salisbury. Bryan Lima,go Lobo. This is the Sewan Salisbury
show. Good call. Rough dayfor Deshambo so far. What happened to

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briceon Douchambo? He's on the wholenine, he's plus six. Who has
the most pretentious name on the tour? Is it Bryson Duchambau or is it
zender shuffle A? I think that'sit? Or anybody with three names?
Okay, you got a name ifyou're going by, if you know,
if you have three names, likethere's a hyphen in there or something,
then that's it. You're either aserial killer, right, or you're a

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pretentious Maverick mcneely's pretty okay, Newport, Rhode Island mansions guy. It is
yeah, Maverick McNeil, Maverick mcneivy league grad type of talk. Yeah,
right, Deshamba like a punk kidseeing anytime you can like it's either
d Shambeau or Deshambo whenever you canmove around like that with all this exactly

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the D no doubt about it.You always got to emphasize the D show,
and especially when it's you know it'sover Royal Troon, you know,
across the pond where at the Openwhere golf begins, you know over.
I know it's not not Saint Andrews, but you get my point. So
it's a little more. This ishow we do things. There's a little
of superiority. Yeah, you gottaget British right, right, you got

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to get a pint after Yeah,you can't call it a bear, it's
pint. No, it's a pint, that's right. So yeah, I
love this though, because when youwake up in the morning, you get
to see it live. You knowwhat I'm saying. This is the advantages
of the morning show. Yes,because I miss like a Wimbledon semi finals.
I'm asleep, okay, Open Championship, all asleep, But now I'm
in let's go. That's right ink Kim leading with a minus two score.

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Yeah, I'd love to see Tonyfen Now win one time. I
mean on a major. He's sucha good dude and he always gets close
and such a well he's a solidball striker, is Yeah. My favorite
though, is who isn't on thetour? Have your notice? Oh hey
guys, yeah, guys, Agreat ball striker. He turned one hundred
and two today. It's really yeah. It's not like you're talking about us,

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like maybe you're not a solid ballstriker, but it's like, oh,
yeah, guys are really solid ballstrip Explain to me anybody who's on
the leader board that plays the qualifiedthem right, it's not a solid ball
striker. I do believe at somepoint in time, even Nacho Alvira,
who's on there, that's made up. That's his name, not pulled two

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names out of a hat and justmade that up. That's a point.
Guido Migliosi and Nacho Alvira both ontour. That's those the ad lib tour
guys, right, and you knowwhat I know about both? What's that
solid balls? There's solid ball strikers, but that's my favorite. It'd be
like, hey, really good throwerof the football. Well, most guys

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that actually are playing on Sundays couldn'tthrow the football, I would say,
so, so I just laugh withit. Hey, solid ball striker will
know clowns coding to solid it's likethe fill in well instead of it's you
know, I mean, I'm notsure what to say. I guess I'll
just call him a solid ball striker. Yeah, if you're a solid ball
striker, man, look at Imean up and down the board. Yeah.

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And then you got Christian by avowel and it's on. It's on
the peacock. Solid ball strikers onthe peacock. Yeah, Christian bizudant out.
Okay, you got that? Yeah, Okay, Santiago or on there.
Yeah you think all these are madeup? I'm reading about the leaderboard.
Okay, minute, San Diagola,Yeah, that's gotta be Are you

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sure he wasn't on the Spanish nationalteam in the Euro finals? He did
both, that's right. The golflego. Hey well hey, solid ball
striker. Okay, Now, Ican understand if you were having a day
where you were not hitting it solidly, But I my guess is it most
guys on tour are solid boss.Okay, it's just a hunch, yeah

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yeah, just a bit of ahunch. Yeah. All right. It
is the Sean Salisbury Show with youuntil ten o clock. My name is
ross Via, that is Sean Salisbury. We got phone lines wide open and
available for you. Seven to onethree two one two five seven ninety seven
to one three two one two fiveseven ninety we still have post All Star

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stuff we need to get to.There was a certain man named Brownie James
who bounced back with the game ofhis life with twelve points. We'll get
to that at some point as well. Uh. Caitlin Clark nineteen assists w
NBA record, And here in Houston, Sean, it is uh. I
mean a day you kind of pointto certain milestones right on the NFL calendar,

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this is happening. It's the superBowl, then it's the opening of
free agency, then it's the Draft, and of course, as we know,
we're getting closer and closer and closerto the sea in camp opening today
for the Houston Texans. Yeah,it is. And I was on a
serious XM show yesterday and the NFLshow they after our show, Ross And

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the reason I say that is they'refocused on the Texans and it's been a
while since we've had this buzz.And the way the questions they're asking when
you're going to guess, it's notlike, man, what are you gonna
do now you don't have a quarterback? It's I mean, can can they
you know, can they get outof the can they win boys in four
games this year? What's the scheduleset up, But the narrative just talking

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to them, from opening question tothe end of the interview is focused on
how good are they? Are theysuper Bowl? Are they in the Kansas
City Chiefs category? These are allquestions I heard yesterday. What's the next
step for you know CJ. Stroud? I mean having done what he did?
And man, what they look attheir offense, all the offseason moves
it is, and how ownership andwhat Nick Casario the elevation in simply well,

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it's really been less than twelve monthsbecause this narrative at this time last
year's like, well, rookie quarterback, how are we going to do a
little excitement? But we don't know. And so in less than twelve months,
the national this is national narrative hascompletely not not that it matters,
but the buzz of the way they'retalking about this team now is totally different.
And the questions and the and thewhere they're leading the questions. Yeah,

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the tone and tenor is completely different. They're actually excited to talk to
you. Yeah, So I'm sosorry we have to ask you about the
text and it's partologized, it's partof it's part of our ExM Camp tour.
You guys just happen to be next, right, this is you happen
to be next. We happen tobe next for a reason. This is
a we're talking now, they're talkingtears, you know what I'm saying.

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Yeah, not tears that you cry. Tiers of how good they are.
Heres they belong. And I said, listen, probably second tier, meaning
you know it's like the quarterback thing. You got your the bird. There's
about four or five of them,and even the top ten, the from
like six down. I don't knowhow we call Aaron Rodgers second tier.
You get my point. It's hardto put ten guys elite that type.

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But they may be because there's acertain tiers. Right, you can group
and argue each of them rapping theother, like like yesterday went to the
top ten. You can flip JoshAllen and Lamar Jackson. They're in the
same tier. Right when you getto that five, six, seven,
after that, I would consider thatthe next level. I mean, and
it's not down, it's just nooffense. Let's face facts. Yeah,

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our guy Jared Goff's not Mahomes Okay, a good player not, but that
that's what I'm talking about and intruth the Texans while and I was saying,
and a big point I made,they want to know, well,
are they in the chiefs? Categorysaid, well, they'd like to think
them. We all want to thinkthat. I said, they're not yet.
They've got stuff to prove, That'sexactly I said. But I can
tell you this, the the gapis closed. I said, that's the

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difference with the Cincinnati and Baltimore.I said, they're at a different level.
It'd be like comparing it to quarterbacks. I say, you got them
where there's that guy says, man, they're really good. Another player or
two or another year experience, andthey're in that group. We're in the
second. We're on the second tothe last group on tea. You know
what I'm saying. When you're goingin the final day of a major and
you're like two strokes off the pacewith a chance to win, that's who

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they are. And right and you'rechasing Scottie Scheffler who happens to be Patrick
Mahomes and Andy Reid. So that'swhere they are. And I said,
regardless, they said, it's nolonger well there's a big gap. It's
I assure you see three years ago, if Mahomes throws three picks against the
Houston Texans, Kana City can stillwin. I said, Mahomes throws three
picks against this team, kn't CityChiefs get beat. And that's where the

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gap has closed, is that theyand don't kid yourself, and you know
this. The NFL knows it,and that's the concern of coordinators and the
rest. They know it. Sothe tone and tender of the questions and
what they're thinking. So they're notthere yet, but they're no longer like
man, we're six years away fromthat. It's different, and the gap
is definitely closed. And the NFLand opposing teams absolutely know it. Yeah,

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And that just brings me to thequestion because the problem is I try
not to be somebody prone to hyperboleor recency, body like take type of
guy. But if I say,if I make the statement, this is
the most hotly anticipated training camp inTexan's history, do you think that's No,

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I don't think that's a hot take. I think I think the last
time we had this was Watson's whenWatson when they just started to lay they
went to another. Yes, listen, it might even been even though the
disappointment against the Kansas City Chiefs whenthey got beat After that lead, I

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think going into the next year like, Okay, we're a player or two
or a play away from being thatin the next level. I think that
was it and then it went tohell in a handbasket, right, But
that anticipation, but that was forone guy, and you know, one
guy and Kinki mixing. We wouldn'teven right now you'd be saying, who
are the other guys on the team? Now it's like, well, we
got will Anderson, we got there'slike eight guys. You're talking about Stefan

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and you're excited. You weren't excitedabout the coach then, even though they
were winning divisions. Be excited aboutthis coach and where they're going that there's
no ceiling and maybe there was awe were talking about yesterday, and I
think this is valid. Ross youtell me is even when Bill O'Brien's teams,
I was talking to Charles Davis,you know, the broadcast is College
and the NFL, and Charles andI were talking. I said, here's

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the deal. Even when Bill O'Brienwas here and they were winning divisions and
then the power hungry stuff happened.We know all about the abrasive power.
Wanted more power. And when hewas just coaching and they were winning divisions.
I think they won four divisions whenhe was a coach. But here's
the deal. We always felt therewas a ceiling on them. It never
they never broke through. We thoughtthat they're good, but are they really

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a Super Bowl threat? There was? It felt like something was always holding
him back. I said, here'sthe difference. I know it's been one
year, I said, but nowthat anticipation and the excitement, there's a
hole in the ceiling that they canbreak that they've already they bang their head
on it. Now it's open.The question is going to get their whole
body through right away. So that'sthe difference in anticipation. You are not.
That's not hyperbolic what you said aboutthe most anticipated, And I don't

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think it's hyperbolic. Since I've beenin this town, which will be since
what twenty thirteen, ross, that'swhat it's with, eleven years. It'll
be eleven years in September. Thisis the best all around roster that I'm
talking about, coach staff, thebest all around roster that disfranchised the Texans

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franchise since I've been here now,maybe the whole time and covering them from
other cities, but since I've livedhere, it's a no brainer. And
I think since I know there waswhat there is some Andre Johnson, I'm
talking about overall depth and excitement.I can't remember a time when the Texans
were held in this regard and theexcitement was bigger. And I think their

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roster's the best they've had in elevenyears since I've been here. And I
think you could argue, I mean, Kubiak in Phillips obviously very good.
So up there, as far asboth sides of the ball, play,
play calling, you can have confidencewe can. I'll give the coaches.
I'll give the Kubiak and Phillips anadvantage now because they were veterans, been
there, done that, No doubtwe're doing to Super Bowl winners. That's
exactly right now. Talk to mein four or five years and they go,

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fine, but there's no doubt.But when you when you couple that
with all the roster and everything they'redoing exactly and I don't see. Here's
what I also look at. Idon't think Gary Kubiak and Wade Phillips would
sit back and say this rosters,I mean, this coaching staffs sent over
their head. I think they'd alsoput major respect on it, which to
me tells me that they know too. And obviously this coaching staff would put

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me as we all do. Ithink Wade Phillips should be in the Hall
of Fame. I think defense Ithink we should put coordinators in the Hall
of Fame. And Gary Kubiak's doneplenty as a head coach and a coordinator
to prove that he didn't have totake a back seat to anybody, you
know, at this franchise for along period of time. So, but
the anticipation, and it's not justI don't think this is just window dressing,

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and I don't think it's a cosmeticI think there's some depth here,
man, I do not just fromthe roster, but depth in their soul
about who they think they are.I really absolutely all right. So we
got to take a quick break hereon the Sean Salisbury Show. But we've
got a lot of stuff to getto. We're gonna play fair or foul
with Sean coming up at seven pointfifteen. We've got Dana Brown nine thirty,

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your Houston Astros general manager. Wegot you as well. Texans training
camp is coming up. What ifyou had to pick one thing you're keeping
an eye on. Is it StefonDiggs as Joe Mixon, It is a
defensive interior. What's the one thingyou would definitely want to lock in on
if you were at training camp today? Seven one three two one two five
seven ninety The phone number seven onethree two one two five seven ninety It

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is the Sean Salisbury Show four hourscoming at you here on Sports Talk seven
ninety. Let's go call. Thisis the Sean Salisbury Show of course.
Seven one three two one two fiveseven ninety seven one three two one two
five seven ninety. So actually talkedabout it a little bit on the Matt
Thommas Show yesterday, Sean and askingthe listeners as well, if there's just

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the one thing you had to pickas far as day one of camp,
I want to observe this. Iwant to see how player X or coach
or whatever is fitting in and lookingwhat direction do you think you're going with?
For me, there's two things,one on both sides of the ball.
And I know we won't get areal good feel for it until actually

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the season starts are a little bitof preseason. We I don't think you'll
learn a lot in preseas but fora few snaps. But on the practice
field is how physical they're going tobe in that interior on the defensive line.
I think that has to be adominant and you could actually apply both
sides of aligned to it if youwant. I want them ross. You
talk to all offensive linemen and Italked to a cup They want to run
block, Yeah, they do,because you know they get to impose their

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will physically. You feel like you'rein a stick and move when you're past
protecting. Right. Well, it'sdifficult to get those great athletes you love.
I remember my freshman year at USCwhen we were playing in Marcus Allen
won the heightsman that years and watchingGraces all right, Yeah he was decent
and we had first round picks onthe offensive line. Yeah, and Roy

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Foster and Don Mosar and Bruce Matthewswas on that team. And I'm telling
you body to watch them. Youdrop back and pass and we'd want they'd
want to run twenty your student bodyright, like fifteen times in a row
and with Marcus, I understand he'saveraging two hundred and fifteen yards a game
whatever he said, yeah and so, but they what it is is you.
It's like a boxer. Who's whoknocks you? Like when Tyson,

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while he was, you know,great with his hands and quick feet,
when he decided to impose the will, it's the body blows right, you
take your will away. It's notthe one lucky shot to the face he
knock a guy out and say Igot you. Oh, it's great,
But that guy is thinking when youget knocked out, like, you know
what the lucky blow, I wantto I want to rematch with him.
It's the guy who beats on youin the rib cage and in the gut

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right exactly that they're wearing you outto where it's like it actually it takes
your soul. Right, we willsame and run blocking pass protecting past protection
is like we're doing this. Itfeels finesse. Our quarterbacks having a great
day come out of it, jerseysor clean and it's just not the same.
But when you run block and theycome out of it, they walk
in that locker me it's like we'rekicking their ass. We took their soul

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and we snatched it from them andthey're on skates and you're just wearing them
out. So for me, it'sboth sides, but even the defensive front
because if you can control the lineof scrims the defensive front, everything else
I don't say is great, butit's different. So that on offense,
and I've said it how important Ithink the mixing thing is how they're going
to implement him everywhere. I can'twait to see his band with, let

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alone the whole offenses. I'm excitedabout that what that does to Bobby Slowik
And I kind of want to seehow they toy with different ways to get
Joe Mixon involved this year. Thosetwo things are the things I'm looking for
because I already know what seven listen, I'm not gonna learn much abou Strouten
prec He's not gonna play much,and I'm going to learn a lot and
I think, you know, you'llget a feel for the you know,
the buzz of the energy from theplayers, and I hope that it's a

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big one for them because the expectations. But just on the sheer football x'es
and O's Mixing's deployment, how physicalthey're going to be on the interior A.
Yeah, absolutely. You go tothe last game that they are at
they I pulled it up and Iforgot it was this stark of a difference.
You got out rushed to twenty nineto thirty eight yards wise in that
game. You're not winning a playoffgame getting out rushed to twenty nine to

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thirty eight by a team that lovesto run the football that they got beat
by. So what and come outof that game right now? Ross think
about all the great things that we'vetalked about about Detexans. The last memory
they have in their season is gettingtheir ass handed to. Physically, you
could take a finite guys, listen, like I said, you can handle
a Finesse. Sure, you knowyou run into you haven't run into Mahomes

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And he threw for four to fifty. Oh, it is what it is.
But you know what you can't takeis that guy wearing you out snap
after snap because it almost feels personal, you know what I mean. Finesse
feels like he just came from nowhere. Yeah, physical feels personal. Yeah.
The Marshawn Lynch court right over andover and over and over and over
again, beating you down regularly andgetting back up and going getting yourself some

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more. Right, what a stupidgame football is? That? I mean
this effectually is. And a buddyyou might describe to me years ago,
he goes where else would you go? And you play whatever? Seventy times
a game you go and you're fouror five seconds, you get your hell
kicked. Addy, everybody play fora few seconds, get up and got
to go get yourself some more.And when you got to go get yourself
some more, it's tougher to getyourself some more when that guy's on top

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of you, decleating you, buryingyou, and they're rushing for your less
than forty and they're two hundred andtwenty five plus. It makes for an
offseason where you're like that is neverhappening again. Yeah, you may beat
me throwing it, or you maybeat me finesse, but you're not or
some blocked punt on accident. Youare not beating me by beating the hell
out. And this franchise had seenDerek Henry do it to him plenty,

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Jonathan Taylor do it to him.I can handle t Y Hilton in his
days where he had a career hereagainst the Texans. What I can't handle
is thirty five carries for two hundredand twenty yards against Derrick Henry twice a
year, where it's like enough,and now he leaves the division, but
he goes the ball more so youmay see him again in the fight exactly.
So he's not out of your hairquite yet, right, And so
here's the next side for the flipside of that ross is why you didn't

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rush for much and you got hammeredby a great rushing football team in Baltimore.
Now flip it. What mixing givesyou now and the offensive line is
the ability for me because that bigfellow will wear your ass out too.
Is to wear you out. Andwell, everybody looks at all Stroud and
Digs and the and the Nico Collins, another golfer, another Newport Rhode Island

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guy to wear's topsiders right, right, But now I got the ability that
I need eight runs in a row. I got two hundred and twenty pounds
of full brown as man behind me, right. I'm definitely like an analytics
guy when it comes to NBA,Major League Baseball, NFL, and you
know the the analytics say you haveto throw. It's more yards per attempt,
it's more yards for played, butit's you got to get physical at

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some point. You know, overthe last twenty years, one of the
top stats in football's been and Idon't know if in the last three years,
but my good. You know RussRussell Baxter, who is our yeah
research You know, Russy goes onshows all over He was at ESPN on
me all the years I was thereand before and after. He's one of
those guys I could get on beforelike we're on a show, like there's
a two minute break. Hey,Rusty, I call him Rusty rus So.

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I said, hey man, I'mcurious on countdown or something on money,
I counted, hey man, howmany Rushes did they have in Super
Bowl twenty one? Dude, I'mtelling you in seconds. I mean,
he'll come back with Sean have thisand you can hear blurt it out from
the back room, right, Yeah, I'm talking about That's the most underrated
part of the ESPN is the researchdivision. How quickly they get you just
as stats the top of the market. And I tell him, I said,

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listen, it's just it was kindof a matter of fact, you
don't have to say. It's likeif you're thinking it. Russell was like,
oh, Sean, I know whatyou're thinking. So Russell and saying,
and you know what one of thetop stat was in the twelve years
I was at ESPN, we talkedfootball, it's not rushing yards. And
it may still hold true because everyyear, every day, at the end
of the the football weekend, Igo back and look every single week at

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how many teams won when they rushedthe ball attempts now yards attempts more than
the other team. And do youknow on a weekly basis, it's minimum
of eleven or twelve games of thisof the sixteen that the team that rushed.
When they say, well, that'sobvious. If you're winning, you
running. No, we're at atime now where people are running, throwing
screens and stuff. So it's asideways game at times, right, Yeah,

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but the statistic of attempts, itis overwhelming that the team that rushes
the ball more wins. Gates thatthrows it more rushes it more. Right,
So it goes back to hey,when you're wearing them out and beating
them down and they're taking your souland letting you know about it. It's
a bitch man alive and that's whatthe Texans are going to look to do.
And what are you looking for theTexans? Those are you on hold?

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We got to take a quick breakhere, but we will get to
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The Sean Salisbury Show continued. Imean Thursday, you roll in a
little tired, begab or even ifyou're not, say you are, just
I'll see you Monday. Right,And to take a as as I've gotten
older and older, Sean, Ifeel like when you come back from vacation,
the recovery day is key. Takecare next your day. Take the
recovery day. It's got arrange laundry, relaxation in groceries, back in the

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cupboardgerator, no doubt, because threequarters of the time you're going on vacation,
you're running around doing this, thisand this. You really aren't relaxing.
So come back to that recovery dayand your relaxation. What would make
it even worse if like Monday wasa holiday. Yeah, if you're like
go away to say, let mejust mixing a Friday, then take the
whole take it all. Yeah,take take it all. Well, we'd
love to have no take it all? What are they gonna do take your

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scholarship away. You know, well, maybe maybe it might be hitting the
porch. So yeah, I'm withyou. I swear I'm on the same
page. I think let me takethis time off. They'll said, I
think I'll come back to work ona Friday. Friday sales doesn't come on
a Friday, gonna be up here, come on, man, right exactly,

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work from home on a Friday.There you go. Well, that
means my morning alarms are done,though, Brian Alma back tomorrow. I
am here rossby a real triple Eis here Sean with you as well.
We're gonna play a little fair orfoul coming up with them at seven fifteen?
When was your favorite What was yourfirst thought when you hit when this
morning with the alarm on off?I don't well, I don't want to
know you for thought? Your firstwork thought, Oh, we're like,

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I gotta get out of sheep?Yeah was it? My first work thought
was? Actually, what am Igoing to get for breakfast? Because this
uh, this certain uh the GoldenArches type of place over here. They
say they open at four am,But then I go up there, I
pull up and in at like aboutfive and nobody's there, right, I'm
like, hello, Yeah, isthis thing on? Yeah? Exactly,

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I'm trying to get Hi mcgrendel.Here, what's the deal. It's all
the sudden we get we get avestage. There was a guy climbing through
the drive through window making just teachme. It's gotta be instruction on the
wall somewhere. You're a quick study. There you go. I would be
a baby, But yeah, thatwas my Probably my first thought was food,
and then my second thought was whatthe hell are we going to talk

(25:48):
about for four hours? But Imean we got exactly, we got this,
We've got astro stuff. We're gonnaget to Dana Brown coming up at
nine thirty on the show as well, and you folks on the phone lines
at seven one three, two,one two, five seven nine, The
holding longest Billy in Age Town.What's up, Billy? Hey, Good
morning guys. Brian Lolima, TheLance mccolors of seven ninety. Hey,
come on, man, I gaveyou gonna go be a barista September.

(26:12):
Man, I'm gonna give you twowhole appearances and man, oh gosh,
anyway, the Texans I can't waitto use that The Lance mc colors of
Sports Talk Radio. I called himthe Kawhi Leonard yesterday. The load management
you did, so he'll have he'llget He's probably up listening right now,

(26:36):
so he'll get a good kick outof that one. What's on your mind
today? Brother? Hey, Ijay, I am watching the offensive line,
defensive line of this team, especiallyKenyon Green. Uh. I mean,
obviously you got Larry mit Tunguzel Greenover there right tackle, I scume right
guard. But he's gonna have toshow and he's gonna have to really make

(26:56):
his money this year or he's gonebecause Kendrick Green sitting over there. And
they've also got some other guys thatcan fill in. Just Scruggs at Center's
gonna be nice, Shack Mason,he's just a professional offensive lineman. And
then Titus Howard. He has tobe out on the tackle. I saw
a little deal on social media wherehe's this right tackle or bust and and
I agree he needs to be outthere on the defensive side. But I'm

(27:19):
gonna be focusing on Kenyan Green.They've got to get that guard spot settled.
They just do the big uglies inthe middle. If you're gonna run
the ball. You've got to getthat push and if you can't get that
push, you can't run the ball. And Sean, you're right, but
if you run about running the ball, whoever has the most runs wins.
But if you have thirty two yardruns, you don't win. And you've
got to get some You've got toget into their side of the ball.

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But on the offense side of theball. I'm gonna be interested to see
what the D tackle spot looks likebecause to me, they didn't go out
and get that classic defensive tackle thebig guy fast, you know, or
they got fast, but they didn'tget that classic D tackle. They got
more athletic, They got a lotmore speed. They guys all over that
defensive line that can get after thequarterback. You could see what Diniko was

(28:04):
trying to do and in getting moreathletic and more speed on that line.
So I'm gonna be looking at DanikaAutry to be honest, just not because
he's a question mark, but justto see what he adds to this defense
because he's gonna make it easier forthose guys on the outside to get to
the quarterback. And I'm excited tosee that. So that's kind of where
I'm at. I'm at the middle. I'm always in the trenches, and

(28:25):
if you win there, you winfootball games. And I think they really
focused in on those areas in thedraft and in free agency. And I'm
excited to watch that great quarterback andguys up front who can move piles in
are physical, you win. I'mtalking about physical teams and the teams with
teams that are physical with a greatquarterback usually get both. You get both.
You got a chance to win itall, absolutely, I really do.
You're in the hunt all the time. Uh And of course, of

(28:48):
course in the trenches. It's thecliche for the right all the right reasons.
But then you add that if yougot like what CJ. Stroud can
do and somebody who is going tobe special and a game changer, you're
you're gonna be I'll put it thisway. There's not a game on the
schedule, or we say we don'thave a change, That's exactly right.
And that's when's the last time theysaid that. The truth is too you're

(29:10):
going to have games, and thatyou want to run the ball, you
want to run it all the time. But where they shut you down you're
gonna run into a guy that's havingjust a better day physically than you.
Now, as I talked about bodyblows, body blows, what happens when
the body blows aren't there? Now, you've got to be able to stick
and move and throw haymakers knock themout. And that's where the quarterback comes
of, Hey, today's day.You got to throw forty two times.
We got to find a way towin. Yeah, you got to find

(29:30):
a way when sometimes the guy acrossfrom you just a little more stout than
you are. So how do wehow do we find a way to win
when we're not playing our best.They're capable now because they've got perimeter people.
But give me a perimeter team thathas no soul inside, you're not
gonna win. You'll win some games, you got no chance to win it
all. Now, the opposite istrue. Give me a team that's physical.

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They have some good perimeter people,but not great. Kan City Chiefs
are a perfect example. Last yearKelse we mentioned yesterday their receiver Cory Truth.
It was just they're okay, whatdid what? What does Mahomes do?
Raises everybody's guess he does the bigfell in the backfield, ran it.
They controlled the line scrims in theirdefense kicked your ass last year.

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They just did. They were asphysical as any Kansas City the Chiefs defense
we've seen in any of their SuperBowl runs. And when you do that,
and he got the guy with where'snumber fifteen? I was back.
You got pretty good check guys,pretty good? Right, And we have
got the early part of that similarityhere with Stroud in the infancy. But
you're starting to build a the wayyou want to control a line of scrimmage,
no doubt. Absolutely. All right, Well, you do have to

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get to another break here on theSewn Salisbury Show. That is Shawn Salisbury.
I am ros virial. Those youon hold that promise you are next.
If you are in, we willget you on seven one three two
one two five seven ninety is thephone number seven one three two one two
five seven ninety. I was lookingat some offensive line rankings. Where do
the Texans place among the thirty twoteams in the NFL. We'll get to

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that next here on the Seawan SalisburyShow. This is Craig Busy VIGIOH.
You're listening to Sean Salisbury on SportsTalk seven ninety. Oh fuck, you're
home with the Stros tripleser man,he'll get that you. Okay, So
you're a worker with Harold Melvin inthe Blue Notes, I'm gonna say solo.

(31:17):
Okay, love Teddy Pendergrast absolutely allright. That's Sean Salisbury. This
is the Sean Salisbury Show. RossViya with you folks. Seven one three
two one two five seven ninety isthe phone number. Uh, Sean are
good friends of Pro Football Focus.They like to rank things and of course
they go with the grades and allthat type of stuff. Uh. The

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Houston Texans with their offensive line,they have the Detroit Lions one, Eagles
two, a couple other teams,the usual suspects you would think at the
top. Houston Texans twenty second outof thirty two. I don't want it
to end like that. Uh ifthey got to climb up. Hey,

(31:57):
do you know why I get it? The way they graded out in the
run game was not because they're goingrun game, pass game. They're doing
it all and they do a lot. They watch a lot of tape.
Man, they just do. Andwhether you agree with their grading system or
not, that's up to you.But if you're an offensive lineman, and
you read that and you follow andyou know, because listen when everybody says
all I don't pay attention to paperswhat people saying, everybody pays attention when

(32:19):
you're playing, because you want toknow. And quite frankly, they watch
so much tape and break it down. Some teams use they that's their analytics.
Yeah, that's exactly right. Sowith that in mind, if you're
an offensive line and you're in thelower third, and you're a team that's
supposed to be a top ten teamin the league this year, they talk
about taking it personal. That's likewalking up to you and saying you're a

(32:43):
coward or you're soft. You knowwhat I'm saying. No, that's fighting
words. So fight, no questionabout it. So to do it and
it can change in a hurry.And a lot of that has to do
with ross, with the continuity andinjuries, you know, getting tight as
Howard to this set position, yes, and coming off injury, that's exactly
right, Getting ken you green full, ready to go and living up to
first round pick Fisher from Notre Dame. How is he going to fit in

(33:04):
this year as a player. Ishe going to be a guy who's going
to swing tackle, move around,You're going to try to put him in
another position. Second round pick,notre dame, solid good football player.
How much work is he going toget? It's the continuity. So you
see them all five playing in theirposition, not musical chairs. Is you
don't want that to happen much atthat position. That means too many guys
are getting hurt or not doing theirjob. So if they can settle in

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and all these first or second roundpicks that they get or go out on
the free agent market, and thatif the you know over the years that
they've put in there and that aretrying to make this happen. Now you've
got an opportunity to do it.And I would take it personal if I
was them and go back to coachingit because now the difference what's going to
help them too is again they area two dimensional team. Now they can
run it and throw it. Yeah, and they and they've got a mix

(33:49):
and they can help that offensive lineand mentally and they have to be good
at both. And they've got someguys. It's just some injury question marks
I think at that offensive line spot. Joe in the galleria patiently, go
ahead, Yeah, Hey, JohnRoss, Uh no, you telling them
about excitement. We've had a tasteof excitement. Back to Ross helping with

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this, because I'm holding I forget. Okay, around twenty twelve, twenty
thirteen, they had they used tohave power rankings every week. I remember
that year. This is towards theend of the season. We were the
Texas were number one ranked like twoweeks in a row. Does that bring
back what you're talking about? Wasthat twenty twelve where they started out the

(34:37):
season twelve and one that year?I think, yeah, yeah, yeah,
they lost their last three games.Yeah, but I'll never forget.
What I don't forget is that wewere number one in whole football power ranking
to two weeks in a row.So we get we had a taste of

(34:57):
excitement around here, but business,this is pretty exciting. That's all I
had. And Joe, real quick, you know that they have had it
too. And when they went tothe playoffs and had Kansas City by the
ropes, there was excitement. Ithink Ross. I think Ross and I
were referring to the preseason excitement headinginto a season. There is no doubt
that when they started out as thenumber one ranked team for a couple of
weeks and then, like you said, December was and very kind to and

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they yell right. So yeah,no, there's been excitement in different ways,
but I'm not with the overall preseasongoing in thought process. In the
thirteen years I've been here, ithasn't been the sacond. I think this
is it because everything we kind oftalked about earlier, because it is the
coach, it is the play calling, it is the quarterback, it is
the weapons, it is the defensivepieces as well. I mean, this

(35:42):
is as confident as I've been inthe Texans team going into the season.
I trust Bobby Slok, I trustDemko Ryans. I know it's been one
year and some people aren't ready tojump in with two feet, but I
trust the stro I wok one andthat's the biggest word they'll have. And
I think that trust word you're talkingabout that you have for them, they
have for each other. And that'sa big thing. And it's no longer
let's get a bunch of guys outsidethe building to come in and try and

(36:05):
make everybody fit in. Now youknow what it is. We're in the
building. You will come here andyou will fit in. That's what that's
on you. It's no longer onWe got fifteen dudes trying. It's like,
okay, Stefan Diggs, we gotsomething we're building here, come join
us. Not the it's not it'sno longer desperate. Does that make sense
after a year? Right, it'snot desperate. You go and get it.
It's a destination. That's exactly,big difference in the d words,

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right, it really is and hereand there you go. And uh,
it's a great point. I I'mwith you. I haven't been this optimistic
about their overall the the overall packageon both sides of the ball, the
coaching, the quarterback that I itappears, the health. You know,
you got to get a little luckyduring the sea. You got your way
in a certain game, no doubt. I and I like the kicker.

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I mean, you go all theway down. If there's not if you're
not a level of excitement on thisand you're then you really haven't been paying
much of attention to what I totallyagree. And I just think now now
we'll see, of course, andit's gonna be tough, especially in the
AFC. As we mentioned yesterday,we went through the top ten quarterbacks.
Seven of the top eight in thea f C. Yeah, and eight

(37:10):
of the top ten or all AFCquarterbacks. It's a The gauntlet is stupid,
right when it comes to good isit six or seven or seven of
eight? I think it was sevenof the top eight AFC quarterbacks and and
the seventh one is our good.There you go and looking to climb man
u a line man, it's crazy. I'm buying. I'm buying. CJ.
Shoud Stock A CJ. Stroudstock.I'm I'm in line for it too.

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And the guys after the tenth,like we said, we mentioned said
yesterday that they were the world youthrow for forty five hundred yards or not
even in there. So there yougo. It's a you gotta get through.
It's usually I got to get throughthe gauntlet of defenses. No,
you got to get through the gauntletof quarterbacks in the AFC. If Trevor
Lawrence wasn't on that list in yourdivision, I mean, I think Anthony
rich Anthony Richson, now he's rookieand got injured, but he destroyed you

(37:58):
last year. If you want tohave a skills cut petition, he might
win it. That is freaky.Skill set, there's no doubt built out
of a freaking lab. Yes heis. Hey, we walk into a
gym with a with a with asuit on and then just to jump off
two feet and dunk it anyway Iwant while I walk into a court and
I got dress shoes on. You. Yeah, that's that kind of freaky
app Yeah, he'll go in thereand he'll he'll out squatch you, hell

(38:19):
bench you, hell jump you,out throw you. Yes, he will
while you're in athletic equipment and he'sin a suit. That's right. Yeah,
we're pretty and Levis ain't half badathletically. Through another one we got
we got some good young players inthis division to be fun that position.
It's it's definitely gonna be an excitingseason, all right. I don't know
where it went. Our one ofthe books flies brother, Bye and bye
baby. We got to go toour number two here on the Sean Salisbury

(38:43):
Show, my name is Ross vReal with you Triple E is here as
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Saulsbury, Very Salsbury, Houston.Okay, let's do this. Sean
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go Lobos. This is the SeanSalsbury Show. Wednesday. Excuse me,

(41:23):
Thursday. I don't forgetting all thedays now at this point, Shawn,
you're making me wake up early.He is how it goes. They all
run together. Yeah, it's allrunning together, but it is a Thursday.
A lot of question marks for theHouston Texans. But it's kind of
like reminding me of you know,when the Astros got into a good run,
when when they were terrible in liketwo thousand and twelve and stuff like

(41:44):
that. We're like, Okay,who's gonna be at second base, who's
gonna be at third base, who'sgonna be here? Here? Here?
And you still have question marks,for example, even after coming off of
World Series Championships. But it's likethose first world problems, right, and
that's where you are with the HoustonTexans coming into this training camp. Okay,
are you going to be maybe softin the middle on the defensive side,

(42:04):
can guys stay healthy on the offensiveline. But I mean you're set
at quarterback. You got confidence inyour coach, you have confidence in your
play callers, and my goodness,the weapons that you have for this young
quarterback that Nick Cassario. God,it's there's a few first more First War
problems than first world problems. Yougot a third world problem. You've got
far more assets than you do debtright now, right exactly, it is

(42:25):
a really good thing and now andlike I said to me, one thing
you can't control, but you hope. And then this is a hope.
You pray it and you hope itthat you're deep obviously that you can't control
going out in the offseat and getguys that that are core or football team.
They may not be everyday stars,but they're rotating on the defensive line.
You just got to hope that youstay away from injuries, man,

(42:47):
because they're good enough. If they'reinjury free and healthy and have that luck
with them, then then they gota chance. And ross you hit it
in the beginning, what fifteen totwenty minutes ago, you said they got
a chance in every game going inthe schedule. You look, they're gonna
be they got a chance to beatyou every time they go in when I
it's been a while since we saidthat, man, and so I couldn't
agree more. Yeah, and yougo to I'm trying to find it.

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I read it a few weeks ago. It is either Bill Barnwell or maybe
uh, the the pro football docwhat is his name, David Chow or
something like that. Yeah, Ithink the most the terms of David Chow
in terms of injury, players lostto injury, games lost to injury.
The Texans were number one in theNFL last year and they still take game
and one ten games, got intothe division round, got ran over by

(43:34):
the Ravens. Let's I mean itis what it is. Won the division.
Physical, Yeah, you won thedivision and you had all of those
injuries, so generally, year toyear you don't get that unlucky back to
back years. It's exactly right andso pretty impressive by them, and it
was a it was a fun watch, but there's still a lot of work

(43:57):
to be done. Even though theyhad ten wins, and while you it
was a tremendous success, they didn'twalk away like, oh cool, we're
just glad to be here. Maybelast year at times we thought, well,
we'll just be glad to get intothe postseason. They walked away from
that, I guarantee you thinking we'rebetter than this and we should have had
a chance to do it. Andit's a great learning. You have to
take them with you. They're nolonger just happy to be talked about.

(44:20):
Now. It's like we're a teamthat you better. We're not just happy
to be here. We plan onwinning and you can say you plan on
winning all the time. I gotnews for it. There's teams right now
they they know they're not the ChicagoBears are gonna have their struggles. They'll
win some games because Caleb Williams givesthem a chance, and they won some
games last year. You know,the reason they got the first pick was
the previous year trade if you remember. But there are some teams in the

(44:40):
league, the Giant that they're goinginto this thinking we're not very good.
We're just gonna have to fight,scramble to stay afloat. Right, Yeah,
that's what you're going into. Wherethe Texans who have been there,
that's not who they are right now. It's different. It's absolutely different.
And you know, we talked aboutsome of the things that we're looking at
as far as things we want tofocus. We talked about the run game,
We've talked about a little bit ofthe interior. What do you think

(45:04):
about Will Anderson Junior Defensive Rookie ofthe Year. One of the things that
that and we kind of talked aboutthis yesterday, I think was CJ.
Stroud. As far as you canhave somebody, they can come in,
they can hit the ground running,maybe because the mental game is there ahead.
But then that makes you that begsthe question, have they hit their
ceiling earlier close to the ceiling oris there gonna be more growth? They're

(45:25):
gonna get even better and better andbetter and start to hit that upper echelon.
And I think that's something we haveto keep an eye on with Will
Anderson. Yet, Yeah, Ithink that he's gonna be special. Seven
sacks last year, Defensive Rookie ofthe Year, I think, And you
got Daniel Hill or a Hunter onthe other side, that's that's gonna be
pretty good team. And now you'vegot you've got in truth. If you

(45:45):
say I got a double one guy, it's Hunter is gonna be the guy
you double. He has to becausehe's a top five pass rusher in the
league. He just is. He'sa great player. I think that that's
such a frigging good get by them. Oh my god, I do.
And I like Grenard. Listen,Jonathan Grenard's and Minnesota got them, so

(46:05):
it's like they got themself a goodplay. Oh yeah. But the consistency
and the physicality and the run gametoo. Hunter brings a lot to the
table. And it's not just reputation, it's reputation with some substance. Man,
he can play. But here's whatWill Anderson how I feel if you
think about this going into last year, before the season started and they got

(46:27):
these two Caps, who did youthink was going to be a better player?
Will and Anderson? That's true,highly regarded. I mean while c
J. Stroud had a hell ofa college career, Will Anderson was more
highly regarded by most early success,early success and success coming into the league.
Well, now you got the quarterback, had slightly a decent rookie year,

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yes, say the least, andWill Anderson rookie of the on the
defensive side, I mean it isyou're talking that guy lived up to what
we expected and c J. Stroudexceeded what we expect. But if you
go in and talk about all thetalk, there was a talk at one
point where c J. Stroud isgoing to be you know that with the
twelfth pick, the tenth pick,that not a lot of you know,
remember when it first started, likepeople question, well, the question will

(47:12):
do is he a great leader?Is he all those jame move like that?
And what happened? What's he allabout? Right? They did?
They questioned it. Well, theydidn't question any longer, any question.
And I think Bryce Young is stillgoing to be a good player. I
do, I don't. I don'tthink we should quit on him yet.
But I can tell you this thatright now he's not even in CJ.
Stroud's league, not even close.But he progressed like a rookie usually does

(47:35):
exactly struggles, have some good yousee some good good foot, no doubt.
So I think just what you canexpect on the offensive side from the
growth, and we see more growthbecause he's got the ball in his hand.
You know, we're watching with afine tooth comb with a quarterback.
But just as much as you seethis no ceiling on the quarterback, the
ceiling was higher for the defensive endcoming into the season in defensive and outside

(48:00):
linebacker. You want to look atyou but can't put it. And then
as he continues, now stand outand he can put his hand on the
ground and go and you want himmoving towards the quarterback. But he gets
to learn how to play in spaceand can cover it time, so you
can be more multiple defensively. Listen, I don't think there's much ceiling in

(48:20):
his game either, brother, Ithink he's And like I said, if
I'd ask you this question a yeargo, before the camp start, he
said, well, I expect morefrom will Anderson earlier, earlier, just
because of who he was and wherehe came from and saving in Alabama.
Well you got Well, you gotthe best rookies at both positions in the
league, and I don't think we'reeven close. Neither one of them knows
how to play yet. Well,damn it, you're getting me all excited.

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Well, Texas it starts, theyroll today, and I can't wait
till we get to the real stuffin a month. That way, Kevin
and a mobile real quick ahead ofa break. What's up, Kevin?
Hey, good morning guys. Howy'all doing great? What's up? Not
much? Man, Look, Idon't I don't want to be Debbie Downer.
Oh come on, you know no, we don't want to be either.

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God. Yeah, but I've gotfor me. I've got a little
more confidence in this second half ofthe Astro season than I do for the
Texans season as a whole, becauseI just believe in being a football guy
in my entire life. Man.And if you can't run the ball or
you can't stop the run, andShun knows this for a fact, it
becomes very demoralizing. Like I dothink we upgraded as a football team as

(49:31):
a whole, but the fact thatwe filled no needs in the interior on
the d line or offensive line,man, I think that's gonna hurt us
as an organization. You know,as we get deep into the season.
Not only do we not have startersthat are a one, we don't even
have any quality backups in that interioreither way. And Shun, I want

(49:54):
to say this to you, brother. I want to say this to Shun
just on a personal note, ShunAgo, you guys did the Super Bowl
here with the Four Letter Network andyou were one of the guys. And
I had my four year old withme, man, and you stopped and
took pictures with him. You andy'all had Charles Woodson on as a guest.
I don't know if you remember.I remember it exactly. It was
right. It was downtown it thatwe were staying at a hotel not far

(50:16):
from Vic and Anthony's and I rememberit extremely well. And I don't because
I remember the day we had CharlesWoodson on the set. Yes, and
man, so my son went onto become a high school football star here
and he played at the Air ForceAcademy and now he's headed to uh Korea

(50:37):
on August the third with the AirForce for a year long stint man,
And that always meant the world becausehe's like, that's the man from TV.
And you still love Charles Woodson becausehe's a big Michigan fan still today,
you know, even coming from Houston. Man. But that meant so
much to a little boy for youto stop and he got lood on your

(50:57):
jacket and you were like, oh, man, it ain't no big deal,
get because you picked him up.But uh man, I want to
tell you, brother, you're aclass act. So it's a I can't
thank you, thank you very much. What a great compliment and our best
to your son for his safety andwell he turned out not only a great
football career for him to go onand then now he's in the Air Force
and gonna go to Korea. Godbless him, man, and thank you.

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And I remember because Woodson was onthe set that day. And listen,
if I have plenty of mud,I don't care if a kid picks
but out I held. I wantto take him on the set and do
it all. So that would it? Would you give me a lot of
compliments if you want, but nobetter than that when somebody remembers that and
has a young son for you andall these years later to say that,
man, you made my day.Thank you, and uh, God bless
your son and good luck. Andhe does make a point. Would we

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say ross getting physical on the interior, that that's what they have to do
and he knows like he's talking aboutthey upgraded the run game with mixing,
but you got to control the lineof scrimmage inside. It's like in any
sport if you're not good in themiddle baseball, you know you talk about
catcher, you can't. Yeah,you sure can't. And good point.
But our best to your son andwhat a great compliment. I remember it

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well and Charles Woodson that day becausewhenever you have a Hall of Fame run
your set, you don't forget it. Yeah, you do it, all
right, and it's always great whenall these years later you forget. You
know, you don't never know whatthe impact you're making on somebody and people
that have impassed in my life,but to hear that compliments awesome made my
day. All right, thank you, Kevin, appreciate it man, Thank
you for getting in. You wantto get in? You can seven one
three two one two five seven ninety. A little late for a break,

(52:23):
but that's okay, that's because we'rehaving fun here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
You want to Get In seven onethree two one two five seven ninety
seven one three two one two fiveseven ninety coming up next, I'll throw
some questions at Sean. We callit fair or foul the Houston Sports World.
Yeah, Sewan Salisbury knows how toplay the game because he really played

(52:45):
the game. Yeah, former prolQB right here, He actually has it
on his name tag former pro QBright here. Back to Sewan on Sports
Talk seven ninety all right, Sean. What are you hearing out there now?
The Salisbury Steakouts, Salsbury takeout onthe Seawan Salisbury Show seven in the

(53:14):
am. It is time for thesteakout on the Sewan Salisbury Show. Rossby
we out in for Brian the Limatriple e here as well. All right,
John, I'm gonna throw a fewthings at you see what we have
time for. But we'll go aheadand start with the list we went through
yesterday, and you can always extendthe steakout. We do reserve. Okay,

(53:34):
good, I like that extended steakout. Are you go extra extra special
level of service. That's what I'mlooking for here. We do white glove
service. Thank you very much.That's what I like to hear. Thank
you. All right. So wewent through the quarterback list yesterday on the
Shawn Salisbury Show. Then also theycame out with the wide receivers list.

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It will be cornerbacks today, butwide receivers list they have, of course,
as you could probably guess, someof the usual suspects at the top,
justin Jefferson one, Tyreek Hill two, Jamar Chase three, and they
have ceedee lamb up there Houston,Texans Stefon Diggs is number nine, behind

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Mike Evans at eight and ahead ofBrandon Ayuk at ten. Fair or foul
Stefon Diggs top ten wide receiver andat the number nine spot, I think
it's very fair. I don't thinkit's foul at all. And I'm not
sure and I don't mean this asdisrespect Ross after I know his performance,
but you know the drop ball inthe playoffs and the stuff that did.
People have questioned, well, ishe a malcontent? Right? You know

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we've heard that in the last twoplaces. I think when you just look
at his skill set on the field, there's no doubt. And I think
he's going to be buttoned up andready to go because there's another big contract
waiting for him and he's a hellof a player. I don't I wouldn't
put him muchigh. I mean,give me the guys in front of him.
Look at this, go Mike Evansis eight, Okay, I'm on
Ross, Aint Brown seven, AJBrown six, DeVante Adams five, Ceedee

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Lamb four and then Jamar Chase Hill, Jefferson with the top three or no,
Yeah, I agreed. I thinkyou've got a top ten guy and
you got Nico Collins and you gotDalton Schultz. I think that nine is
more than fair. I actually thoughtsome would have probably kept him out of
the top ten, considering I reallydid. I thought he head of Cooper

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Cup, ahead of Deebo Samuel,That's what I'm saying. I head of
Garrett Wilson, right And you know, you know how some guys get they
they they also take all the otherstuff involved. So I actually think it's
very fair with a chance to moveup, But I would not put him
right now, considering the old circumstances, ahead of any of the guys you
named in front of him. Yeah, right now, I think there's a
little bit of proving ground for him. I know what a skill set is,

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but the overall package, I thinkthere's another level and I think he
can move up. But right now, I don't think it's foul at all.
I think it's very fair. Ithink, Yeah, we've been waiting
on this Garrett Wilson, that's oneI'm keeping an eye on. I've been
waiting for this Garrett Wilson breakout.Unfortunately Aaron Rodgers got hurt last year.
He's supposed to be freaking a freakshow. Yeah, he's a beast.
There's no doubt. Talk about aguy who could move towards the top five

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with the big season. He's oneof them. I'm gonna tell you another
thing. Think about this. Twoyears ago Cooper Cup won the Triple Crown.
Ever seen was it? Two year? I think we're going this year
three he won the Triple crowded yards. Yeah, yeah, exactly so,
and his injury slowed him down,right, So there you go. I'm
uh, I'm excited, but yeah, that's very fair. All right.

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Also looking around the Sports News,Brownie James best Summer League performance twelve points
Sean. The scrutiny that he hasbeen under the microscope? Is it hey,
uh, he's just a kid.He didn't ask for this, Or
is it hey, you're getting paidall these millions. You made millions at

(56:52):
USC and n I L. Youcan take it fair or foul. The
scrutiny and being under a microscope forBrownie Jays, I L and the collective.
And all that's done is take usfrom you know how, you say,
well, you can't criticize somebody he'sjust on scholarship. It's too harsh.
He's just a kid. They're prosnow. And while I say it's
he's just a kid, the Jamesfamily no offense brought. They brought it

(57:15):
on themselves. They they yearn forthe pub. His dad's out there,
you know, walking on the courtcode, you know, the whole thing.
And when you got that last name, it's part and parcel. Dude,
you just got to deal with it. Sorry to tell you. Now,
is it a bummer for all?If you look and watch basketball skill
set? I know he comes fromgood DNA, but he's not a He's
not his dad, Okay, andit's not fair that Part's not fair to

(57:37):
it the expectations to expect him tobe like his dad. But when it
comes to is it fair that youcriticize him or say the guy's just an
average, very talented and an averageplayer, more than fair, and quite
frankly, I actually think some areafraid to criticize him even more because of
who his dad is. And there'sno way if his dad wasn't his dad,

(57:59):
that the Lakes would have drafted himperiod. Yes, so it is
very fair. And I know it'sharsh to say on a nineteen or twenty
year od kid, but guess whatyou get paid that's exactly right. I
mean, listen, as long asit's not personal, right, you're talking
about his game. You know,you talk about his girlfriend or stuff,
leave that out, just talking abouthis game. And I know some can't
keep it there. And if youwant to criticize because it's listen, is

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there a lot of you know,when it comes to nepotism involved, of
course there's but that you take onthem, that's it. But every game
the ESPN they've covered, they watchhim play high school ballad. His dad
has put it on him too,to say, oh, he's better than
some of the guys that's already playingexactly every ounce of it is fair.
Matter of fact, it'll get worseif the guy doesn't play better basketball.

(58:44):
He's just a guy, and Iwhen it comes to basketball, he's just
a guy. He's not special whenit comes to back. It'll be interesting
with the way that this turns withthe summer league. I mean, hey,
he's had the career game and it'stwelve points in a summer league.
Right, if there was ever aguy who's going to make a team that
probably would just performance, probably wouldn't, but he's going to have a roster

(59:05):
spot because his dad's going to makesure it's him. I tend to agree
basically, just with what you said. It's you kind of feel back.
He didn't ask for this, butalso you got it and your your dad's
a billionaire, you've got millions inthe bank now. Because of who he
is, you've got to be ableto take a little criticism. It's probably
more on the dad that the kids. The dad's been pubbling the kid either,
like you said, yeah, he'stweeting out, Oh, I see
eighty what did you say, eightyfive percent of these guys or something that

(59:30):
I don't even remember what the numberwas. In your backyard when you're shooting
jump shots exactly, Bronni James isbetter than all these guys out here.
Yeah, his dad put that onhim. And you know what, Well,
you can't help who you're born into. He was born into a really
talented family and unfortunately he's not quitehis dad. And unfortunately we know that
the lebron James over the years,talent evaluation has not been his strong suit.
Probably screwed up more teams that he'shelped hype. I think he wanted

(59:53):
them to take the first route orsomething like that. No, denying how
good Lebron is. But when itcomes to I don't think I want Lebron
is my GM. Okay, justput it out. I've allege you and
I'll keep running him out on thecourt because the guy's a monster, right,
we don't need him there. Okay, that is the sake. I
actually had one more to throat.You will do it on the other side.
It's a question about the greatest NFLcoach of all time getting a little

(01:00:16):
bit of criticism. We'll see ifthat's fair or foul when we come back.
I see a couple on Hold,we'll get you as well. You
want to get in seven one threetwo one two five seven ninety seven one
three, two, one two fiveseven ninety The Sewan Salisbury Show rolls on.
After this short break for The SeawanSalisbury Show continued, I wanted to

(01:00:38):
get to you're familiar with Andrew pearlofcorrect sure the dam he was, yeah
for a long time. Now he'sgot his own show, yep. Yeah.
So he wrote an article and hewrote about Bill Belichick being in the
media. He doesn't think that it'sfair that Bill Belichick could shun the media
and belittle them for so many yearsnow he gets to join. He wrote

(01:01:00):
an article for Athlon Sports, quote, networks have to stop hiring Bill Belichick,
someone who openly mocked the media fortwo decades as a head coach of
the Patriots, shouldn't be able towalk right in and get multiple mediate jobs.
Fair or foul pl foul. AndI'm in Pearloff and I love him

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and we actually stay in touch andI'll drop by I when he was with
you know, my relationship with DanFellows, I think I love it.
I think he's extremely talented, smartguys, he's very I love him.
But because it's like nowadays, ifyou vote for one person, I vote
for the we're supposed to hate eachother. I don't. And I can't
even remember growing up ever feeling thatwas like my buddy's But I don't care.

(01:01:42):
Yeah, you do your thing andit's the same. I don't care
about that. I disagree with himon this completely. And here's why I
get the bitterness. That perfect example, you know, who's a and he
was just here for Warren Moons event, who's one of my dearest friends.
And when I got to work withhim for a long time at ESPN,
dude and I'm telling you what,at a point in time, he may
be more gifted than his brother atdoing it because he's smooth. Is Shannon

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Sharp brother Sterling Sterling has been afriend forever when Sterling was the ESPN Dude,
I'm telling you the guy is greaton TV and they people keep wanting
him back, but he loves todo He talk about a golf and full
that guy I played thirty six seventygoes and he should be in the Hall
of Fame. People forget how greathe was as a player injuries. Yeah,
but Terrell Davis about five years wasthe best in the business. Yeah.

(01:02:25):
If we're gonna go short term,I'm telling you he may be challenged.
He'd be one of those guys andyou look at the all time numbers
if he plays out his career.M hmm. The way that the league
shifted to the constant passing Sterling Sharpwas a He's a borderline Hall of famer.
As we sit and I listen,I'm just telling he was. I
had play against he was dominant anda great and Sterling Sharp never did Meetian.

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If you go back and look hatedthe media didn't do it really.
Second he walks off there put himinto the ESPN. He's great, so
I and you used to way kidhim about Hi. I never talked to
him. Now you get paid todo it. He's such a good dude,
right, But that's it. Andthere's been many many more like him
that are bitter and mad at themedia when they're doing it, and then
they jump and say, well,I can make seven figures to do this.
I'm in I get Perloff's point.I get it. But guess what.

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TV's never turning down a guy thatcan bring something that nobody else can,
the greatest coach ever from a perspectiveof preparation. And Bill mocked him.
But see Bill was never like Billwas never he didn't like, he
was abrasive, but he never mockedto the points that I hate that guy
out like he just didn't give himwhat they wanted to hear and was very
short and what's the word, I'mguarded and didn't suffer fools. I think

(01:03:37):
that, no doubt about it.There are some people, everybody, everybody
who gets stupid. Every athlete,every coach gets stupid. Question, no
question, And some people handle withgrace and some people handed it like Bill
Belichick or like Papovich. Yeah,Papovich is constantly wearing people out right,
absolutely, and now that he's notwinning, people are wearing Papovich out.

(01:03:58):
But with and Belichick took a lotof that. He once Brady left as
well. So I get the point. But you can't tell me he just
can't. You can't tell well,he shunned them. And what about a
guy who shunned investments because he thinksthe guys are crooks his whole life and
then finally at the end of hiscareer has some extra money invest it and
becomes Warren Buffett, Right, What'she's supposed to say, don't pay me
these millions? Spang bing? Sonow what Andrew he can he can go

(01:04:21):
out and he can be critical ofhim on a show and do everything he
wants. Doesn't have to do that. But it doesn't mean that we should
not allow him in the media andquit hiring him, because what he's going
to bring, should Tom Brady,is to do we know if Tom Brady's
bet in greg Olsen not saying Tomshunned the media right now, I think
Greg Olsen may be say probably notbecause of how great we know Gregan.

(01:04:41):
I think Olsen's he's the best numbertwo guy on the planet. And he's
not a number two, he's aone. Okay, But what I'm saying
is Brady's Brady. We don't knowanything about it. He's had some practice
friends, yeah, and I thinkhis preparation will say he's going to be
good. Right, But Greg Olsen, if I took him off there,
other networks should be saying, I'llhire and he is my number one,
and he's in and now no offenseto Tony Roman. He's better than Rumo

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all day, every day right now. Because Tony's gotten comfortable. I agree
with backed off. He I thinkwhen he couldn't be and who he was
when he first started, and thatthat bugs me. I've arrived. I
had to kick the feet one.He needs to go back like he was
an undrafted free agent, became agood quarterback. He was a broadcasting guy
and he killed it. Yes,but Greg Olsen prepared, not hyperbole.

(01:05:25):
Greg's good and maybe Tony'll kick backup realizing he needs Also some of the
greatness of Tony was that he wasfresh out of the league, so he
was more in tune with offenses anddefenses around and he also and he also
and you got to stay up onthat. But he also there was a
youthful exuberance a kid that he lovedhis energy right, and sometimes people call
it cheesy, but give me energylike Dick VII tal still energy. You
know, guys who make you wantto note that love it. And I

(01:05:48):
think Tony genuinely loved and then golfand he becomes a celebrity, get paid
all the money. It's easy tosay, oh, I know it enough,
I can semi mail it in.Well, I think we've seen that
he needs to ramp it back upfor him. And but Greg Olsen's phenomenal,
so Tom. But when it comesto you know, I think Brady'll
prepare and all that. But whenit comes to Belichick, I get Purloss
disdained with it because I love Andrew. Like I said, he's a brilliant

(01:06:10):
guy, but just because he wasn'tthat Now now he's gonna go approach it
another way and he's gonna get ataste. And if Bill ever goes back
and coaches, maybe you'll have adifferent appreciation for it, because that happen
all the time, Like, oh, now I understand why these guys are
like like it can be Bruce Arianswho's fun and it talks a little nonsense
and doesn't go just natural. Right, But no, you're not. No

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network has ever matter of fact,all the reason more reason why they want
him abrasive, you know, suffers, no fools, all those things that
he was. Now he's going totalk on the thing, talk with us.
We get that with him bunched upand Sterling came in and was vibrant
and did it all, but stringnever didn't do interviewss like non no,
no no. Then comes in hisbaking. Well, how does that guy
get that? Because he's good.Yeah, and we're gonna find out if

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Belichick's good. But anytime you bringsomething different and unique, networks are going
to hire you. And you're awarm by fresh out of the NFL,
of course they're gonna hire you tosee how it goes. So I get
pearl Off what he's saying, butit's foul. You can't you can't keep
a guy from doing it. Justbecause he didn't want to talk to the
media doesn't mean he can't be inthe media. Yeah, all right,
So one three two, one twofive seventh ninety the phone number. It

(01:07:15):
is a Shawn Salisbury show. Wekeep rolling along at seven one three,
two one two five seven ninety andhe has been waiting patiently. You are
next up. Hey guys, HeySean, this is gonna be a continual
of the other day about the aboutEspada and how he's using these relievers.
Yeah. I looked at it evenmore in depth. You know, Friday

(01:07:38):
game, it was six to twogoing into the seventh inning, we had
a four run lead. He pitcheda braw Presley patter. The next day
we lose about one. None ofthose guys pitched. Then Sunday's game,

(01:08:00):
none of those guys pitched, andSteve Sparks had to come. I came
on the air, you know,and I understand his job, kind of
like the press secretary come out thereand try to Day's, you know,
hide the screw ups of the administration. But he threw something out there about
their rotator cuffs. You gotta bekidding Meed, does that mean after Friday's

(01:08:25):
game, Hatter, Presley, andObray who all had rotator cuff problems because
he pitched. Scott who has pitchedI think has the most innings pitched by
our reliever. He pitched Scott.You know, they can't keep hiding as
spot as mistakes, just like amistake. He keeps playing McCormick and not

(01:08:51):
Dubon du Bond's been playing every day. I understand, but he needs to
be playing talking about McCormick. Doesn'tneed to be in the game. He's
gotten two hundred barely and he's nothelping the team. And he let me
ask you this, going back tothese pictures. Let me just take you

(01:09:13):
back. Here's why I didn't understandSunday, why they didn't use him,
especially with five days rest in between. Go back to the Thursday game against
who they play on Thursday before?No they played was it the Marlins?
They played the Marlins Thursday and theyused a bray you Presley and hater Friday

(01:09:38):
they used a brain that's back toback then one run game. Rarely do
you see back into Bullpens go threedays in a row. That's why I
understood Saturday. I completely understood Saturday. That'd be three days in a row.
Now after you took Saturday off knowingyou're in a close game on Sunday

(01:09:59):
and the hell they couldn't carve outand he hits Minnesota they only had a
couple hits go with that. WhoYeah, who they play on the weekend?
Was it Minnesota? It was thispast weekend? Was the Rangers?
Rangers? That's right, because Minnesotawas missed the weekend before that was weekend.
Yeah, they played the Rangers thatwe know can rake. But they
didn't give up many hits to theRangers. They didn't get many hits the
home run. So but on Sunday, I would have argued with you that,

(01:10:23):
yes, that I could have usedPressley, or I could have used
a Bray, or I could haveused Hater again, unless somebody was hurt,
which nobody said they were, becausenow not only are you not using
him Sunday, not using them Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and
now you're in Seattle on Friday.I thought Sunday was a mistake and I
didn't get it, But I didunderstand Saturday, after two back to back
days of using them, why youwould not pitch those three guys. Yeah,

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and also though I understand that you'relosing, I think Joe Spot had
tried to sneak one by. Hetried. He's trying to limit the guys.
He's thinking about the line save.I'm gonna get Hi an extra day's
They were also losing that game.So if you say, okay, do
we want to burn these guys?And I understand you do have the All
Star break coming up, but you'retalking about playing the long game and Nona
situation. You're trying to get backinto deficit. You're hoping that they can

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hold the water. And Rafael Montero'sgot a pitch. I'm at some point
he's making four what eleven million dollarsand unfortunately he validated Andy's concerns. You
put him in there and the guygives up a two run blast and that
put the game out of reach forthe most part. And Mauricio du Bond
since Kyle Tucker has gone down,he's playing just about every day. I
think it's Andy, thanks for thecall as always, brother, appreciate you

(01:11:34):
chiming in. I think it's morefor the he doesn't want mcormick in the
lineup as opposed to one. Youknow, I know he wants to Bond
in there every day. Here's thinkabout this, going back to spring training
when everybody said Jake Myers is goingto be your every day center fielder.
MM hmm, didn't or we believein it, Well, you got we
got to put somebody else here.McCormick's got to play because of last year.

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And Chaz has not played well thisyear, and it would not surprise
me if he was part of apiece that they moved. It would not
at the trade deadline. But JakeMyers had has had a really good season
and validated their belief in him.And we know Dubon and Andy's right,
Dubon, you'd like to seem playevery day. But he has been getting
a lot of run. Had there? He just getting a lot of run
in a bunch of different positions.If I have this correct, He's played

(01:12:15):
thirty five of the last thirty sevengames, right, which is a lot
of run in a lot of differentpositions. He said forty over that span,
Yeah, okay, which has notbeen normally like him. No,
he chases a lot of he tastesa lot. He gets a lot of
contact, but it's a lot ofsoft contact. And when it's when it's
finding the outfield grass, he's he'sthe greatest slap hitter of all time.
And when it's finding gloves, it'sjust it's He's kind of predicated on a

(01:12:39):
little bit of luck. He's notgoing to drive the ball. But I
do get why not using the bullpen. I would have used him Sunday,
but it almost feels like that Joefelt like that they needed rest. But
I that was the time because youstill had a chance in that game and
Montero. It was two to onebefore Montero gave up the two run blast
to make it wasn't it forty onetwo? So it was the same situation.

(01:12:59):
But you were in the game andyou think, well, what it
would have would have a bray you'vegiven that one up or so that's where
you start to ask yourself. Butuh, that's a time you can question
that. I can't question Saturday whyyou didn't use those three guys because that
would have been three days in arow. And I get it. I
get why you did. All Right, we had to take quick break here
on the Shawn Salisbury Show. Thoseof you on hold, I promise we'll
get to you. You want toget in. We're talking strows, we're

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almost makes you feel bad to say, all right, that's getting a little
bit over hyped. Agreed, That'skind of where I'm feeling where I'm at
with Mariso Dubon. I love MauricioDubon. Utility Guy, Utility gold Glover
can play everywhere, can hit youabout two eighty two ninety. If he's
in there every day against left handers. He's really good in clutch situations,
situational hitting. You got a guyon second and third and you need somebody

(01:15:39):
to not strike out. You needsomebody to not line out, to put
the ball in play and make somethinggood happen. I like Mauricio Dubon up
there for a guy who's who who'saggressive and still doesn't Yeah, swing and
miss a lot, right, alot of contact. That's that's it.
Something put it, put the ballon the bat, keep it simple.
Something good will happen. But wehave to stop acting like this guy is

(01:16:00):
just an All star being held backby Joe Spoda, especially with these injuries.
He's been in there a lot,right, And sometimes when you find
out I'm not just specifically saying Dubonand we talked about during the break,
sometimes you find out with like abackup court when they go in. Sustaining
it for one hundred and for seventeengames is a lot different than a two
game stint where you're the guy andthenk Sometimes you come in and make make
a few plays at the end ofa game as a quarterback. Everybody say

(01:16:23):
I love him, I love him. Dubon's a really good player, and
every team needs a Mauricio Dubon onthe absolute and I think that's part of
the reason why normally most most organizationsthat I know play their best nine.
Maybeah, not to you every fivedays a different picture, but you play
your best nine. And also yousay, okay, if one of our

(01:16:47):
guys, he may be one ofour best twelve. But when he plays
every other day or we platoon him, he's one of our best nine.
But when he plays every day,maybe he doesn't become one of our best
ages. A little bit of moreof the words you can hid like you're
saying with the backup quarterback, likewe know his state, we know he
can make these throws. We knowwe can't make those of when everybody gets
film on them, they know whatthey can and can't do. So over

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the time when we've all at somepoint could play, why is he playing
every day? Yeah? Or likea start with basketball guy comes off the
bench and drops twenty, Well heneeds to play every day. Yeah,
he's like instant offense. He's likehe averages twenty two points a game and
he's the sixth man and then yousay, well what then you start him
and it's like he averages fourteen.Yeah, I was just like, it's
just different. That's their mentality goingon here. The other starters is different.

(01:17:31):
That's exactly right. So while Dubona really good player, Yes,
I don't think that you're you're keepinghim on the bench because you there's and
for an analytics filled team, anorganization, there's something that says we don't
want to play him every day yet, as you mentioned, thirty five in

(01:17:51):
the last thirty seven games, andthat comes down to getting rest. You
like the factories already to go playfive different positions. It's yes, it's
not a bad thing out a badthing, absolutely, And I mean he
just his whole career he struggles againstright hand and pitching. When they're hiding
him and putting him in against leftiesand he's hitting over three hundred, and
you say, well, why don'tthey play him every day? It's you

(01:18:12):
just have to realize if you're puttingin the best situation to succeed, you
can't extract extrapolate those numbers one forone, no question about him, man,
one hundred percent. And I getyou love him, but sometimes when
they when it's beat Dad, you'relike, I I agree like, we
also have to keep our expectations realisticabout Dubond, They're exactly It's exactly right.

(01:18:35):
Because we talked about are certain peopleover hyped? Runner, He's he's
properly hyped when he's used properly.That makes sense, exactly. There you
go, look at this guy.Yeah, I like that, all right?
What a wordsmith? Absolutely? Okay, where did it go? Our
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He's dedicated. Yeah, he's gonnacome back on taking time on flop Richard
Friday and come in and get it. You get his day in for the
weekend. He probably Monday, probablyhave some tournament somewhere. Yeah know what
I'm saying. I mean, he'she is a man about town. It's
a grind one day. It's ait's a grind. Now, that's my
guy. Man. It'd be greatto great to have him back, and
it's always great to have you in. And I know in truth we joke

(01:22:40):
about it. It's a sacrifice whenyou still got to do another show and
still waking up when it's not doingnormal time. So thanks, no,
I appreciate it. I love it, man, And then you make it
easy doing this show. It's it'sreal fun. So appreciate you having always
all right sev one three, two, two, five, seven nine.
We've got Dana Brown coming up atnine thirty. We are now under two
weeks to the trade deadline. I'msure you'll have some questions for him about

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that coming. I'm gonna make youmention names and everything. Tampa crazy.
Right, If he doesn't leave thisinterview with one hundred thousand dollars five,
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We're gonna try to steal him awayfor the fifty that's gonna cost you.

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There you go, you might getinvoiced after that, you watch out,
there you go, there you goall right, So we were talking about,
of course Dana Brown coming up,we got the trade deadline, we
got the second half of the seasonstarting up tomorrow with the Houston Astros.
It will be the late night ofWest Coast games coming up here on Sports

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Talk seven ninety, big three gameset, as big as a say in
in the middle of July. Youdon't want to say this is must win
a territory. If they lose thisgame, the season is over. But
you're taking on the Mariners this weekend. It's three game set, nine to
ten, first pitch tomorrow here onSports Talk seven ninety. We got the
Texans starting training camp today and wewere kind of just talking about Sean and

(01:24:08):
you brought it up, and soI'll pose your own question to you.
We know that this is an Astrostown, We know that we are an
Astros city right now, but honestly, when they were ripping off one hundred
lost seasons year after year, itwasn't. And then the Texans were doing
their thing. And we also mentionedthis is what, in likelihood, no

(01:24:28):
hyperbole, the most hotly anticipated Texansseason. What would it take for the
Texans to make this a Texans town? Or can it be both and anything
short of a Super Bowl is itgonna take. Listen, I when people
ask me when you go football,is Texas is a football stay? Absolutely.

(01:24:53):
I always tell people that haven't beenhere. I said, if you
decided to come here and get marriedon a Friday night during the fall,
don't nobody comment watching high school football. I said, And you find that
out. Don't throw a party ona Friday night unless it's post football game.
Do it on a Saturday some othertime. Don't do it on a
Friday after. The truth is,take your ass to the spring and get

(01:25:15):
married then, right exactly. Butwhen it comes to this, and I
since I've been here, there's beena smattering of Texans when they're winning and
winning divisions, and it's been there. But it's been for the most part,
at least the last seven years,it is. It has been an
Astros town. Now. I thinkit's still football beloved, but an Astro's
town because they're winning. And Ithink you'd say that. Well, if

(01:25:38):
all of a sudden the Kansady Royalsreeled off three World Series in a row
in the Chiefs Mahomes decided he wasgoing to retire, it'll become a Kansady.
Exactly. It's exactly right. Soyou're probably gonna get me for this
because I've said it's an Astros town. I'm not sure the shift hasn't already
started because of the no, no, I'm not saying it is yet.

(01:26:01):
It's close the object in that closerthan it appears. Yes, because of
that big that big word hope andbelief that they're getting. It's almost as
if they've already done it three years, right. It's like they took one
year and skipped they took A,they skipped B, C and D,
and they're already at E. Youknow what I'm saying where they're like,
okay, we've we've pushed them alongthat kind of said, hey, that's

(01:26:25):
a fast riser. He went fromsingle adies pitching in major leagues tomorrow.
But there they are on the theyare on the uh what's my guy?
That just uh pitch for l Sthe l s U two started. Yeah,
Skiens, they're on the Skiens pathright, Boom boom boom, get
this and before you know, blinkand they're already back in the bed.
Guy's a star, I think,dude. You can just hear the buzz,
right, and maybe that's partly becausethe Astros early half struggles, but

(01:26:48):
they've been hot. Perhaps if thosestruggles would have continued into August, brother
it shifts on a dime and leavesnine cents change. I'm just telling you,
I think it's so you're telling mewhat would it take. You're asking
me what would it take Likes toget there? If they get and win
a playoff game or two. Let'ssay they win the division, get the

(01:27:09):
division round, okay, and orthey get home field advantage. So let's
say they went on a roll,win twelve games, they got home field,
advanced out the class, and thenthey win and they're playing the NFCA
Championship game in year two of thiswith the with the head coach and the
quarterback. See when you got thosetwo guys that the hope is like through
the roof, it's not just thosetwo guys, and it's still is Texas

(01:27:31):
football, dude, it's just ifit's Texas. That's exactly. You can't
take that that's in their soul.Man, When when most in most states
that I've lived in, they're puttinga pacifier in your mouth or something else.
At too, they got a football, right, and you're sitting right
on your lap as a two yearold next to your blankie. Okay,
so and that's not the same itis. It's different here. We got

(01:27:56):
high school stadiums that most there's alot of schools in college to have that
exactly. Yeah, I was tradedto get at a junior high school football
field last week in Austin. Isaid, I would have loved to have
this high school field in California,which is pretty damn good football, seaitbolutely,
I mean California, Florida, Texas, and then mix in Western Pennsylvania

(01:28:17):
and Arizona and some other good rightoff the charts, no, no doubt.
So yeah, Ohio, Western Pennsylvania, no question about So with that,
it's going to be if they winand go to the plass win the
division and we're looking at like theCJ. Stroud MVP type season, the
shift will happen. Now, there'sstill astros diards are going to be Astros
diehearts, but that the talk ofa football town will be here by the

(01:28:42):
time we hit Fall of twenty twentysix. At this if this continues Fall
of twenty twenty six, overwhelming footballtown. Even if the Astros win another
World Series and if the Texans areclose, just because of the football,
I still say there's more passion towardsbaseball today with the hope that anticipation.
There's more excitement right now for football, passion baseball because of what is excitement

(01:29:05):
for football, But in the soulwhere people aren't talking about when they sit
at home and think about it,they know football's coming. Football is king
exactly. You're in Houston, Texas, all right? Seven one, three,
two two five seven ninety quickly beforebreak, John and Needville has been
holding. What's up? John?Hey, you guys tell you all today?

(01:29:25):
Man Row, So before I getto my textas take roll. So
I got a question for you.Okay, earlier this week, your co
stall, your co host made acomment on this show or another show,
on his show. Okay, youtalk about Matthew Thomas. Yeah, what

(01:29:49):
did he say? Oh you knowwhat he said? I predict and what
did he had? I'm that wordfor work. He said, I predict
a uh tragic injury or a bat'swrong with's here man? Because he lost
his little five foot seven ball hittinghe's like six' one. Come on,

(01:30:14):
I don't care you gotta go backto McDonald's with that craft. You don't
do that, man, Yeah,we yeah, you don't do that.
Man. I'm I'm I mean,I played college ball, so now why
are you gonna eat? Why areyou going to say something like that?
I know it was a joke,but I don't think he was necessarily joking.
So what John is talking about.We do a segment on Tuesdays called

(01:30:35):
Gut Feelings, and you say,I think this is gonna happen. You
make predictions. You know, what, are this guy's gonna make the All
Star They're gonna trade for a startingpitcher? What's in your gut? What's
a gut feeling? And yeah,Matt Thomas said, major training camp injury
for the Texans. What's a gutfeeling? It's like, come on,
man, that's worse than calling aguy guy's got in the eighth inning,
saying he's got a perfect game,no hitter going and you announce it right.

(01:30:57):
Yeah, No, don't put thaton anybody. Donald Trump was your
vice president one of those Kamala Harris, I mean, dude, you don't
do man. I was like,damn, I hope he's ready for the
God forbid and what happens He goingto catch him flat from me? Yeah,
what do you got on the Texas? Real quick? John? We

(01:31:17):
got to get to a break realquick. You know, I've seen a
few people out there saying that thisis the best textis team to be filled
it. I disagree. I'll giveyou one position and that's it. I'll
give you the quarterback, of course, But dude, you can't sit there
and say you got better wide receiversthan what we had with the Hall of

(01:31:39):
Famer of Dre now. But theoverall package, you're going one position from
start to finish. Overall package,start to finish, I'll take Arian Foster
with Joe Mixon. I'll take Andreover any wide out. I'll take Owen
Daniels over shore. For what yearyou gotta talk about. You can't talk

(01:32:00):
about eras in multiple years. Youhave to pick out a single year,
one single season, twenty twelve,maybe when they went when they went twelve
and four. Yeah, the oldline the second day. I gave you
a push. The linebackers. I'lltake those linebackers back then when Cushy was
popping his button and Damiko was there, the old line. I'll give you

(01:32:23):
a push on net because you hadEric Winston and them guys. You know
this. You remember I said twentythirteen when I moved here, so mine
was the last eleven years. Iwas not here in twenty twelve. But
since I've been here, this isthe best roster they've had period. All
right, thanks John. We gotto do a break, man. You
know what, We'll go through it. We'll look at it makes for a
good argument that John's listen. Atcertain positions, you don't have a player

(01:32:46):
like Wat. You're hoping you getone in Will Anderson and the Neil Hunter
is a good player. Wats afirst ballot Hall of Famer, Andre Johnson
the Hall of Famer, and AntonioSmith. I think was I I was
in there as I want to go. I'll tell you what the overall see,
he said, Andre Johnson, theoverall receiving crew. Yeah, this
is better, right, this,this is better potentially on O and Danzels
but then it was like Kevin Walter, David Anderson or something. This is

(01:33:10):
a better group. Yeah, there'sno question we'll go. You know what,
we'll we'll go through it. Whenwe come back, we're gonna take
quick break and then those of youhold will get to you as well.
Seven one three two one two fiveseven ninety if you want to get in
seven one three two one two fiveseven ninety. We're talking Texans training camp.
What type of positions are you worriedabout looking at with the Texans training
camp? What would it take tomake this a Texans town? We're talking

(01:33:33):
about that. We got Astros deadlinestuff. We've got Dana Brown coming up
at nine thirty here on Sports Talkseven ninety and the Shawn Salisbury Show.
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ninety to Sean Salisbury. First,Dad, going there to train. It's
off season. I'm working with strengthand I'm doing it all right. Get
yourself ready at that time. I'mjust six five two twenty five dude.
I'm jacked and ready to roll right, and I feel it great about myself.

(01:34:17):
I walk in there, so wego through the stretching and hitting the
heady, just getting loose and stuff, and then we go three three round,
I mean three rounds of three minutesparring sparring. But he's not hitting.
He just got the he's got thegloves, got the pass. Yeah,
he's moving around and I'm here thisat the end of the first workout.

(01:34:39):
Yeah. By the time I wasdone, that's simply nine minutes just
stick and moving and you're left right, left, Yeah, and he's not
hitting back. I walked out ofthat ring, walked over to the trash
can and blew as much chow asyou possibly could imagine, threw my guts
up and I it was in.He laughed. When I said, am

(01:35:01):
I going to be tired? Hejust looked at me and smirked and said,
because you're like, I'm a worldclass athlete, Yeah, exactly.
I played in the national get guyschange, I'm a I've been Trammel world
class athlete. When we walked outof there, he made as fart as
he goes world class class, Aworld class. That's exactly right, And
I'm like, ooh, this isdifferent. It's so it's crazy to people.

(01:35:23):
Yeah, exactly, so I've doneit too. Where you can you
feel like you can hit the heavybag for ten rounds, but for whatever
when you go to the pads oreven sparring another person, because it's not
only the physical entry, it's themental injury and the mental energy that you
expand the nervousness, the getting hitin the mouth like it does the longest
three minutes of your life. Itis. It was, without without crazy,

(01:35:47):
such a good point and it wasthe longest nine minutes of my life,
even a little break in between.And I you know, like nine
minutes whatever. And how about boxing, don't we all like when the heavyweights
are leaning on each other, likeyou bitches quick leaning at each other,
right, fight? Go train?Yeah? You know what I did?
Wake up, I said, Iget it. Yeah, exactly. I

(01:36:08):
understand why you're leading on a biggerfellow to hold him. I don't care
if he's sweating or not. You'releaning on him and hold on him to
get your breath back. And itwas and I literally I lost in a
room like man. But it wassome of the best training on the planet.
Oh yeah, it's a different planet. It's just different lately. Like
when Connor McGregor and and Floyd Mayweatherfought, Yep, you get towards it.

(01:36:31):
What was like a ten round fight. I think it went or something
like that. You get towards theend of that fight. Floyd Mayweather looks
like he's walking in a park,has because that he had in sweat.
Connor McGregor looks like he's on hisdeathbed, exhausted whatever to go right,
Yeah, it's like it's just normal. It's just different, man, it
is. And it's hey, listenthat that stuff. It's fine boom boom

(01:36:54):
movie. It's like a closer anda starter, right it is. You're
going fat. You get so manypictures fifteen, now throw one hundred and
five of those and tell me howyou feel at the end of a complete
game nine. And it's just different. But that training, brother, getting
back to that speedbag, hitting it, it'll wear your ass out. Yeah,
boxing shape, That's what I tryto tell people exactly what you That
was my experience because I started off. Dude, you're doing classes, right,

(01:37:15):
They teach you how to throw ajab, they teach you how to
throw a right cross, or I'ma left handy, so they teat the
lefty. So they teach you howto throw a left cross and a right
hook, and you can throw onetwo threes and I'm like, okay,
this is cool and you get hittingthose pads, and then you get in
there with another person sparring, andthe mental game and the physical game.
It's a complete exams. And thenafter you've thrown all those jabs and you
know, and hooks, and allof a sudden, your hands drop and

(01:37:38):
that dude goes right, you pullthem back up. You can't even pick
your head because you're you're blocking.When you're blocking punches with your hands,
it wears them out. I remembertelling the coaches like, we're only sparring
two rounds? Why were all hesparring two rounds By the end of the
middle of the first round. I'mlike, this is too much done forget,
there will be no third round.Jab it out. It's a truth,
man, it's nuts. And you'relike, uh yeah, drop those

(01:38:02):
its like I'm I've spent Yeah,I just can't even lift your arms.
He's I'm gonna lift my arms andto put on the steering wheel to drive
it back, not get his handsup. In round eight and he got
knocked. Let me explain to you, yea world classes his hands up.
Get your hands up easier said thandone. Right, There is no doubt
about it, brother saying like abar fight, fistfight. We go run,

(01:38:23):
tackle the guy, put your handaround his throat and pound him a
few times, and you're done.Exactly last about forty five seconds those things.
At the end of three rounds.I was like, dude, what
am I doing right here? Absolutelytotally, totally all right, Well,
we got to get to a breakalready. That show's just flying by,
Brian. We see you on hold. We do need to compare. We
mentioned it, we teased it.We pay off on our teases here,

(01:38:43):
Sean, you know that you're abig tease payer. I'm absolutely like that.
That's what they call me, that'sthe nick that's what they call me
in the trenches. All right,twenty twelve Texans compared to the twenty twenty
four Texans roster. Those you onhold will get you as well. You
want to get in seven one threetwo one two five seven ninety Dana Brown
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also been talking Texans hitting training camptoday. What are you looking at as

(01:41:21):
far as position groups and what areyou going to be keeping your eye on.
And we actually had a caller Johna couple of segments ago talking about
the Texans roster for roster and it'spretty close. There's some clear advantages,
but we're just gonna kind of lookthrough it a little bit. Sean,
let's go ahead and start with theoffense. We'll go with the offensive line.

(01:41:44):
Pre darn good unit there in twentytwelve, Dwayne Brown, Wade Smith,
I'm just going left to right here, Chris Myers and Twin Caldwell,
Derek Newton. This year, youdo have some of the question marks,
but you start with Laramie Tunsel,can you gring Juice Scruggs, Shaq Mason,
Titus Howard. Potential with all thefirst round picks, you like this
one production that one wins. Yeah, I think so too so and KG

(01:42:10):
Veteran, they just they they're justbetter now that the two tackles Brown and
tunsl Dear. She was like aseventh rounder, but you know he was
productive. You drafted all these likefrom Kenyan Green and Titus Howard, and
you got tough those three first roundersright there. You got put it this
way. You expect them to bea dominant offensive line with where you picked
them. But the twenty twelve groupyou're talking about, it was a year

(01:42:33):
before I got here. But watchingthem that that that group I would say
is better. The P word oncepotential on's production and their production was better.
All right, Let's go with thewide receiver corps Andre Johnson. It's
not a bad leadoff, but itgets seen worth. He's worth about three
guys. Significant drop off after that, Kevin Walter, and then it's into

(01:42:55):
de vere Posey Keishawn Martin, theStar Jen territory after that. Of course,
I imagine where you're gonna give theadvantage here Sean Nico Collins digs Tank
Dell. Then you're Noah Brown,John Metchi been scoringneck having He mentioned Robert
Woods, who I think is probablygonna end up being a camp Cuple.
We'll see, But I imagine whereyou're gonna give the advantage as far as

(01:43:15):
the wide receiver court. Yeah,Now, I'm always I always have to
this. He say, well,it is Andre Johnson, and I could
probably have three guys that are notgoing to equal his production. But overall
the group stop it. With respectto the dudes in twenty twelve, this
group's better. Absolutely, I shouldthrow the tight ends in there. Dalton
Schultz, Jordan, Brevin Jordan herein twenty twenty four yet pretty solid.

(01:43:39):
I mean, if you just wantthe tightening position, Oh yeah, Owen
Daniel's over over Dalton Schultz right nowbecause you can do it longer and a
little more cagey and experience. ButDalon Schultz has potential. Matter of fact,
you go watch tape on him onOwen Daniels say that guy's pretty productive.
Right, But I would say theoverall when I have tight ends and
wide receivers, the overall personnel,this is deeper group advantage. This group,

(01:44:01):
even with Andre on that advantage.One player Andre Johnson, Steph Diggs
is an exactly chopped liver we justmentioned earlier in the show a number.
They put him at number nine inthe as wide receivers in the entire NFL.
That's exactly right. So I'm I'mgonna go overall this group. Let's
go with the running backs Joe Mixon, Damien Pierce, and Troy Harriston.

(01:44:25):
Or you want to throw darry Agoodenbowally in there now. If we're going
running backs, who can kick?We know her again. The advantage the
other side though, Arian Foster,Ben Tate justin for Satt that's pretty darn
good. One two three and twentytwelve, yeah, one two three depth
Foster advantage over Mixon, still learning. I'm gonna go with the twenty twelve

(01:44:45):
depth because now and I'm gonna gowith and and and and their number one
is a little bit better. Ifit was here, Mixon would be spelling
Arian Foster. And the depth thenumber two is Pierce's potentials through the roof
the production of the guys in twentytwelve better. Yeah, and then of
course, and I still love butwe also got to take into account offensively
what you're trying to get accomplished.Yes, and Foster could catch the ball

(01:45:09):
as well, so that, oh, that's it. He was really good
at right, So the depth ofwhat they're trying to do, and that's
where Damian Pierce is right now.A little bit behind is that insaid that
zone scheme. He hasn't quite He'snot patient enough yet. And Aaron Foster
is one of the most patient runnersyou will ever see running the Kubiak who
came from what the Shanahan doing thesame thing, and they're kind of funny
how it works, right, ShanahanTree not not too shabby. And then

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of course quarterback Matt Schob, whoI think you know towards the end of
the when he was throwing the picksixes like crazy, you got pretty bad.
But Matt Shob in his heyday prettydarn good. C J. Stroud
at the quarterback Matt was a consistent, good long term player in this but
was limited physically even though he hada four thousand yard season and is a

(01:45:51):
good player. But make no mistakeabout it, there's a lot of things,
and I'm sure Matt Schabb would admitit himself. There's things that Matt
Schob that c J. Stroud cando. Everything Matt Chobb did, Yeah,
there's a lot of things that MattChop can't do. See just said,
the distance between Andre Johnson and anybodyelse we're talking about is the same
or JJ. Watt is the samedistance any that I think Stroud's better than

(01:46:15):
Watson, So I agree that soundsso there you go. To me,
c J. Stroud is far andaway outside of Warren Moon in this city,
Houston wise, that's the best footballplayer at the position the city's ever
seen. Watson would be three,Moon would be one. C J.
Stroud's got a chance to be thattype of guy. Premature for us to
compare him to a fifteen twenty yearcareer, but on this franchise, this

(01:46:38):
is the best quarterback this franchise hasever had, and I'm not sure it's
close. So add it all up. We went through the position groups advantage
twenty twelve or twenty twenty four advantageoffense twenty twelve, But the great equalizer
that takes it to another is thequarterback. I think number seven. Yeah,
puts it over the edge. Tome. Agree that most important position
in sports, not even football,right in sports. And I got here
in twenty thirteen, so I wasn'there day to day baas watching him covering

(01:47:00):
it nationally and all that stuff,But I still the quarterback means that much.
Yeah, you know what go askis that's close? Oh, it
very close skilled positions. That's whyyou go. You got the quarterback or
heath receivers more explode. Put itthis way, trustworthy, probably because Aaron
Foster, you know you were goingto get in that and Kubiak been in

(01:47:20):
the league a long time. Probablymore the experience and a little trust on
toughness of grinding through it. Butif you're just talking about pure raw explosiveness
and talent that it's this group.Yeah, it's this group, I think.
So h all right, so well, unfortunately we do have to do
a quick break here. We willget to the defensive side here, just

(01:47:40):
talking about I mean, I thinkthe hype for this twenty twenty four Houston
Texans team is real as we gointo training camp. Mentioned of course Dana
Brown coming up at nine point thirtyas well. We'll get to some astro
stuff as well. You want toget in seven one three two one two
five seven ninety the phone number sevenone three two one two five seven ninety
Sean Salisbury Show back in a minute. Why you're back. This is the

(01:48:03):
Sean Salisbury Show. Get back atit. What's gonna happen, What moves
are going to be made? Weknow that they want to move. You
can have a wish list, rightif you're Dana Brown, you can have
things that you want, things thatyou know that you need. You need
starting arms, if not too especiallyif you want to go to a six
man rotation at some point in thesecond half of the season. You've got

(01:48:26):
Luis Garcia unfortunately pulled back the rainspulled back with him on his rehab assignment.
You've got Lance mccullor's junior last we'veheard that guy's been shutting down.
You were hoping that maybe they couldprovide you a little bit of starting depth
down the stretch and targeting June orJuly or something like that for those guys,
but both of them not throwing orat least dialing it back right now.

(01:48:47):
At this point, you've got towonder about Renel Blanco and getting his
arm built up and how many milescan you put there on the tread?
Is is he going to be ableto sustain throwing more more professional innings than
he has in a season in hisentire major league career. Same thing for
Spencer Arraghetti, same thing for someof the young guys. You have Hunter

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Brown last year in the first halfof the season, he was pretty good.
Second half of the season, thingsstarted to fall apart a little bit
for him. He threw one hundredand fifty five innings. He said,
all off season and training camp andall that type of stuff, he's feeling
great. He's learning about his bodyand getting built up and physically and all
that type of stuff. But wealso need to see it on the field.

(01:49:31):
We have with what nine of thelast ten starts that he's gone out
there, they've been quality starts,but can you continue to count on that
down the stretch August and September.So certainly on Dana Brown's wish list is
going to be some starting pitching.I wouldn't hurt to get a reliever.
We've talked about all the guys inthe heavy usage this year, and really

(01:49:53):
I meant a been meaning to dothis, and I want to probably maybe
even sometime later today. But guyswho are basically pacing for all time appearances,
most appearances in their career, Ithink Taylor Scott is already there.
He's got forty one appearances for theHouston Astros this year. Yeah, in

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his entire career, he's got eighty, so over half of the appearances that
Taylor Scott's ever made in his careerhave come in this year at the age
of thirty two, Not saying heis going to break down, but certainly
something to monitor as we go along. You've got Josh Hater forty two games

(01:50:35):
that he's played this year as we'reat the midway point, as we enter
post All Star break play for herefor the Houston Astros, most games he's
thrown as his career sixty one,sixty one, he's at forty two.
That's something to keep an eye on. Brian A Bray you so far for

(01:50:58):
the Houston Astros six appearances most appearancesin Brian Abrady's career seventy two. I
imagine he's pacing close to around there, so a bullpen arm. I think
it is something that Dana Brown isgoing to have to try and address at
the deadline for the Houston Astros.And then another one of the questions,
which we'll get to at the topof the hour that Chandler Rome has brought

(01:51:21):
up, is what do you doat the first base spot. The good
thing is you have John Singleton andyou can put him in the lineup basically
every day, and you know thathe's gonna be okay. He's gonna be
replacement level. He's gonna make someplays at first base. He's not gonna
make other plays. It's not likehe's just a quick, slick mover out
there that you're gonna confuse with agold glover like Juli Guriell has been in

(01:51:42):
years past, and Josea bray Youwasn't, but at least is comparable,
if not better, especially what wasprovided this year at first base defensively John
Singleton over jose A bray You.And then of course it's bad, It's
not even close. Joseah bray Youone of the all time sinkholes in the
lineup in Houston Astros history. Imean, an ops plus of three with

(01:52:02):
one hundred being league average. That'sit just boggles the mind. John Singleton's
is ninety nine. League average isone hundred, so he's one percent below
average. So that's what you canget provided there from him, and that's
okay, But do you do youfeel like you can improve from that stead
That is certainly something that Dana Brownis gonna have to weigh. So you

(01:52:23):
have things on your wish list,but do you have the capital in your
farm system to make those moves.And not only that individual. It's not
just two way streets. You haveto keep in mind when you want to
make moves for players, there areother teams that are going to want to
acquire the services. I mean,that's every team that is a contender.
Yeah, we could use more pitching, and we could use a bat and

(01:52:44):
it's basically everyone. So if youget caught up in a bidding war,
if you get caught up in anythinglike that, do you have the funds?
Do you have the resources to keeprais like, if you're if Dana
Brown is at in auction, canhe keeps up his paddle or does at
some point he have to tap outand say you know what? You know,

(01:53:04):
you pull the pockets out and Igot nothing left? That's it?
Because honestly, you need multiple moves, I think at LEAs far as your
wish list for Dana Brown. Butcan you get those can you make those
moves? That's the question, andthat's gonna be a tough question, and
that's something that will be discussed withDana Brown coming up here on the Sean

(01:53:26):
Salisbury Show as we go along.So as of right now, I think
you have a playoff team. Andthis is something that Dana Brown in past
interviews with Shawn Salisbury has alluded to, like, I think we have a
team to win or to make thepostseason. I think we have a team
that can then can catch and beatout the Mariners, that can stave off
the Texas Rangers. Yeah, absolutely, that can win the American League West.

(01:53:50):
But do you have a team thatcan beat the Yankees? Do you
have a team? Now, they'vebeen free falling a little bit, but
the Orioles in first place, andall the talent that they have in Corbyn
Burns being at the front of theirrotation, and all the young players that
they have that are just hitting homeruns like crazy, like every other plate
appearances, every other plate appearance.Those are the two teams I'm probably worried

(01:54:12):
about most. I do worry someabout the Guardians, but maybe to a
lesser extent. And then you stillhave to beat the Seattle Mariners, and
you still have to see if they'regonna make any moves. Talking about teams
that need a bat, my god, they're horrible offensively. Hey, I
mean, who's even their best hitterright now? Is it col Rally?
Yeah? Yeah, that's what itsounds like every time every time the Seattle

(01:54:36):
Mariner comes up to the plate.That's basically what Julio Rodriguez continues to underperform
greatly, but what happened last yearhe got extremely hot at the plate.
If that happens at the right moment, and then can you get some a
little bit more out of cal Rallyor others or Ty Franz who's not been
good this year, or Mitch Garverwho has you know, some major league
track record of being a plus hitter. But they're probably gonna go and acquire

(01:55:00):
people. That's the other thing youhave to think about too. You can't
think of things about that. It'sjust in a vacuum. You can't think
about things as Houston centric and Houstononly. It's also about what is going
on with the other teams, keepingup with the Joneses. The Joneses being
the Mariners, and you know,the Yankees are going to be primed to
make a move because they're the Yankees. That's just how it is. They're

(01:55:23):
always involved at the trade deadline andthe Baltimore Oriols Orioles mixing it up.
Do they think it's time to seizethe moment. And I don't even know
what the exact weak spots are onthe Baltimore Oriols. Seems like they've got
talent and hard hitters everywhere you look, and a pretty darn good rotation.
Maybe some bullpen help for them.They have, I mean, some pretty

(01:55:45):
darn good guys there right now.But could there be some improvements made.
That's certainly something that the y Astroshave to ponder, that Dana Brown has
to ponder. And then, ofcourse the guy who's going to be the
trigger man on some of this isJim Crane, because Dana Brown's and say,
I have this deal on the table, what do you think should we
make it? And then it'll beJim Crane involved and the decision making for

(01:56:06):
the Houston Astros as well as theytry to go for a twenty twenty four
World Series Championship, that being thegoal. All right, Time for a
quick break here on the Sean SalisburyShow, Sean Salisbury and meet Rosby or
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(01:56:27):
four coming up. It's a goodone. We got Dana Brown coming up
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worried or are you gonna be mostkeying on if you were somebody that we're
going to be going to training campat the Houston Texans today. We'll also

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two, one two five, sevenninety the phone number, as I mentioned,
if you would like to get inthat way, and also kind of
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Rome. Some second half storylines towatch, starting with the Houston Astros and

(01:58:43):
the deadline needs now they only havefive healthy starting pitchers still on the forty
man roster for the Houston Astros.I kind of talked about it in the
last sevencond You got guys on theGlance mcullers Junior and Luis Garcia shut down
Justin Verlander. I'm fortunately the slowbuild up from the neck injury. He's
been throwing off a mount or hethrew off a mound last week. It

(01:59:04):
was like twenty five pitches, butthen he still got to build up.
Then you're talking about live BP simulatedgames and maybe onto a rehab start or
two before he can get back intothe fold for the Houston Astros. And
I'm gonna be honest, he's aforty one year old who's hit the iel
twice this year. What is yourlevel of expectation that he can stay healthy?

(01:59:28):
Now, I think it's foolish topredict injury, but I think it's
also foolish to predict that everyone isgoing to stay healthy. So it's just
a question something certainly that the HoustonAstros have to keep an eye on,
and maybe is something that they're thinkingabout with the way that they are building
up Justin Verlander a little bit slowlyhere to make sure he's good. You
don't want to rush him back inJuly and then have him hurt himself again

(01:59:50):
in August or September. You wantJustin Verlander there in October. I know
the numbers aren't what they were thelast couple of years. It's not like
he, you know, winning CyYoung in twenty nineteen for the Houston Astros
and the year that he put upthere. He's not that same type of
pitcher. But he's still a guywho's smart, who's the cerebral, who

(02:00:11):
knows how to pitch, who knowshow to get out e under four ERA
plus right at one hundred, whichis league average. But I just feel
like you say, Okay, wegot Justin Verlander going on the mound in
a playoff game. You're feeling prettygood. I feel like he's for the
most part, not going to goout there and embarrass himself, even though
of course he has had some startsnot go his way in the playoffs in

(02:00:31):
the postseason. But the bottom lineis the Astros are a better team with
him in the fold than without,and hopefully he can come back, stay
healthy and then be ready for thelong haul if and when the Astros make
it into October. Of course,as we's hit the proverbial second half of
the season, Astros not currently inthe playoffs, only one game back of

(02:00:53):
the Mariners, though, and Ithink a couple of games back of the
wild card. I'd have to goand look at that. It's like two
and a half, three and ahalf, whatever it is games back of
a wild card spot. But ofcourse the focus now you're your zeroing in
on the Mariners, the way thatthey've completed, the way that they've gone
downhill, the way that they havestarted losing their games. You're only one
game back. That's that's got tobe the focus for the Astros and that's

(02:01:15):
what you probably go into any seasonsaying, is we want to win the
division American League West. Certainly inthe crosshairs for the Houston Astros. As
we get ready for the second half, so can the Astros. This is
the question from Chandler Roman his articleof The Athletic Meet the price for starting
pitching at the trade deadline, BecauseI think in theory, as I was

(02:01:38):
kind of saying last segment, youryour wish list, You'd love an ace,
You'd love a stud. You wouldlike a guy, you know,
Garrett Crochet from the Chicago White Sox, somebody that you that can come in
here and shut things down and youcan throw him out there every five or
six days if you want to gointo a six man rotation. But how

(02:01:58):
do you get the the funds,as I said, to get up there
and make that deal. I don'tthink the Astros can. I think a
lot of the top end deals andstarters they're going to they're gonna have some
issues with. As Chandler points out, the Dodgers Orioles, far deeper systems
easily can outbid the Houston Astros.And you also have guys like the Guardians,

(02:02:21):
Brewers, Red Sox, other teams, as Chandler says, who can
outbid you. So it's gonna betough for the Astros. Wanting something and
getting something are is going to betwo different things for the Stros. Another
question, first of all, whendoes Kyle Tucker come back? Is he
gonna be ready? I think theexpectation was gonna be and we'll talk to

(02:02:42):
this Dana Brown about this coming upat nine point thirty. The expectation has
been, or had been, thathe was going to be ready to go
come after the All Star break.Is that the case now? Though latest
we hear is he's been milling arounddoing more the more vigorous activity, as
they say, swinging the back,getting in the cage, all that type

(02:03:03):
of stuff, doing baseball activities.But is he going to be ready to
go, and and with all thistime missed, Joe Aspatta had mentioned,
if he's going to miss a lotof time, maybe we want him get
a little bit of rehab time andget ready and get back in the rhythm
of things. But we've also seenguys get back and be just put straight

(02:03:24):
up into the back end of thelineup. I think jord On Alvarez,
I think al Jose al Tuova,others have done it where there's not no
rehab time. We're just gonna puthim in the lineup. We need him
out there. So is that gonnahappen with Kyle Tucker? And then how
efficient and how good is he goingto be? Because we love Kyle Tucker.
We love him here. We knowwhat he can do. He's a
Gold Glove caliber right fielder. He'sa thirty to thirty threat on the bas

(02:03:47):
pass and at the plate. Andat the start of the season, dude
was in the MVP conversation. Imean, he is still tied with jord
On Alvarez for the team leading homeruns get nineteen home runs in sixty games.
But you also have to remember KyleTucker is a guy who's prone to
extreme hot streaks, and he canbe prone to deep slumps. So which,

(02:04:13):
Kyle Tucker, are you going toget back? Are you going to
get back the guy that was ona Hall of fame, a hall of
well hall of fame, but anMVP type of track, of course,
has since been passed by a guylike Aaron Judge as far as the MVP
running and maybe some others. Butyou look at what he was doing.
He was writing that conversation with anybody, the way that he was playing very

(02:04:34):
well in right field, hitting homeruns, getting on base, slugging,
carrying this offense. He was ashot as they come. And unfortunately we
live in this universe. We don'tlive in the universe to see where he
doesn't injure his shin, if ifhe can keep it going at the plate,
if he can keep performing up tothe level that we know what he

(02:04:55):
could see. I mean, hewas basically pacing for what like sixty home
runs almost. So if he's gonnacome back and be that guy, is
there gonna be a deep slump ifhe doesn't go to a rehab start,
is he gonna be in rhythm?And it's kind of a question. We're
not really gonna have an answer tountil we see it. And like I
said to this, a guy who'sbeen prone to slumps at any point during

(02:05:15):
his career. Throughout since he's comeup with the major leagues, he's been
extremely He's been a hot, extremelyhot, sometimes extremely cold. Overall by
the end of the year. Thebalance of it is is the guy's been
really good. As I mentioned,with the thirty thirty season last year,
well now almost a thirty thirty season, he's a thirty thirty threat. Twenty

(02:05:35):
nine home runs. Unfortunately, couldn'tget that last one last year year before
thirty home runs, twenty five stolenbases, So going on three straight years
of him hitting close to thirty homeruns or twenty nine and then it looks
like he was gonna far exceed thatearly on this year. Unfortunately, he

(02:05:57):
just hasn't been there. And it'sbeen the first deepest shin brews in human
history, is what I continue tocall it. From Kyle Tucker. Yeah,
I know it's going to be studiedin medical books for centuries to come.
I think with Kyle Tucker and thatshin and hopefully he can come back,
but that certainly is a storyline whendo you get Kyle Tucker back?
And what Kyle Tucker are you goingto get? And then another question from

(02:06:20):
Chandler Rome in this article, howwill first base evolve? And that's a
mention like you have a first basemanon your wish list, you would like
to get a first base addressed,But is the backup plan going to be
John Singleton? And that could Andthen when you come to Joe Espada and

(02:06:40):
you say day one of a potentialplayoff series, whether it be wildcard or
whatever is you're writing out that lineupcard, where are you putting at three?
What are you putting at first base? Is it John Singleton or is
it somebody who is not on thisteam right now that you are going to
acquire at some point in the nextcouple of weeks. That's what you have

(02:07:01):
to wonder about if you're the HoustonAstros, and of course, if you're
Astros general manager Dana Brown, whowill be talking to coming up at nine
thirty seven one three two one twofive seven ninety is the phone number?
What do you think should happen atthe deadline? What do you think will
happen at the deadline? We canget into that seven one three, two,
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(02:07:24):
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Dana Brown, the Astros general manager, coming up here as well as we
set to embark on this second halfof the season with the Houston Astros.

(02:10:01):
It's a big series. As Isaid earlier, I'm that one that's prone
to hyperbole, and this is amust win series for the Houston Astros.
But yeah, it'd be nice goout there and sweep them. Be nice
to go out there at T MobilePark and take care of business. You
know that crowd is gonna be frothingat the mouth, booing al Twove and

(02:10:22):
booing Alex Bregman and doing their thing. And for whatever reason, being a
fan base that gets all whipped upinto a tizzy about the Astros as if
they took something from them in twentyseventeen when they didn't. But I digress
Mariners fans. Yeah, yeah,Mariners fans. That's how I laugh at
you. But nine ten start Fridayhere as the All Star break has ended.

(02:10:46):
It'll be eight o'clock Astros on deckhere on Sports Talk seven to ninety.
And then it'll be a late gameon Saturday too, that'll be at
eight to forty. And then athree ten tilt weekend set against the Seattle
Mariners. Be nice to you knowthe minimum, try to take two out
of three there. Then it goesto they'll go on to continue on the
West Coast swing, taking on theOakland A's, who are terrible. Sweep

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would be nice. Then things rampup a little bit. You're taking on
the Dodgers. You got the PittsburghPirates who are pitching playing a little bit
better. Of course, have somestar power now there that they didn't have
before. And the seasonal roll onsecond half will roll along as the Astros.
I think last I looked as faras the remaining schedule strength, the

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Mariners were one of the weakest schedulesremaining in baseball. Okay, good,
it's got a little difficult. I'mpulling it up right now. Astros sixteen.
This is just in terms of winningpercentage, strength of schedule. Other
websites will do, you know,how they feel the team is playing,
and other metrics and stuff. Thisis strictly wins and losses. Astros have
the sixteenth most difficult schedule remaining inbaseball. Fortunately, Seattle twenty sixth and

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twenty seventh are the Texas Rangers,who it feels like they've been playing a
little bit better. They've won sevenof their last ten, four games back
of the Astros. I made thegut feeling. We do a segment called
a gut Feelings on the Matt ThomasShow. Just a gut feeling, not
a straight out prediction, but Icould see a world where the Rangers,
they get a little bit healthier withthe pitching lineup starts to wake up a

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little bit. They do have somebig boppers, and then the Mariners continue
to falter where the Rangers. Itmight be Astros Rangers more contending for the
American League West maybe than Astros Mariners, but that's kind of what it was
last year, was those three teamsin the mix. That's basically what we
expected this year, those three teamsin the mix for the American League West
Crown, and we'll just have tosee how it plays out. We have

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the question marks, we're going overthem in the last segment. What's gonna
happen at first base, what's gonnahappen at the deadline, and then I
think that'll really kind of set notnecessarily the expectations. Expectations are high here
in Houston, matter what some onthe team that's made seven straight ALCS appearances,
one four Pennance, one two WorldSeries championships, that's the standard.

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That's the standard set up by thiscorps. That's the standard set up by
Jim Crane. And then now,of course the standard to be held to
with Astro's general manager Dana Brown aswe approach the deadline. But I feel
like we're just gonna know so muchmore about this team talking with you in
a couple of weeks than we doright now. So they just have to
wait and anticipate to see what happensat the deadline. With the shows seven

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one three, two, one two, five, seven ninety is the phone
number if you want to get inseven one three two one two five seven
ninety. We also earlier were talkingto didn't get around to it. We
were talking about the twenty twelve Houstonastro excuse me, Houston Texans and the
twenty four Houston Texans going roster forroster. I mean Gary Kubiak, Wade
Phillips. When you start there.As far as play callers, you're talking

(02:13:50):
about Hall of fame caliber. Bothof those guys, Tamiko Ryans and Bobby
Slowik still with much to prove,but I feel like you got guys you
can trust. I think I likewhat Bobby Slok has done here with the
Houston Texans. He was kind ofa somewhat of a hot commodity, getting
some interviews, people possibly gonna hirehim away. I would expect, really,
honestly, one more cycle. Ifwe're talking about, you know,

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six months from now, Bobby Slokbeing hired as a head coach somewhere.
If CJ. Stroud and this Texansoffense does what I think they're capable of,
I think you're there. But Ialso like what Damika Ryans does.
We went through the offense I thinkI gave a slight edge to the twenty
four Texans, and that's mostly becauseI mean the Kiss method, keep it

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simple, stupid going with c J. Stroud over Matt Schaub. Other places,
it was fairly close. In theoffensive line, it was nowhere close.
With the wide receiver corps, eventhough you start with Andre Johnson that's
pretty good. And then with therunning back corps. Probably a slight edge
to the twenty twelve roster. ButI just think the scales tip a little
bit too much in the twenty twentyfour favor for the Texans roster with c

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J. Stroud. Although Matt schobwas nothing to sneeze at, but that
year in twenty twelve he had twentytwo touchdowns twelve interceptions, So I think
I tipped the scales to the Texans. Then you go to the defense.
We're talking about, JJ Watt,Antonio Smith, Brooks, Reed was pretty
good, Brian Cushing, Remember DemikoRyans was not on that squad, but
you still had Connor Barwin, KareemJackson, Daniel Manning. You're going strictly

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front seven year to year. Imean it stacks up pretty good. I
like Deniko Audry. I like DanielHunter, will Anderson is rookie of the
year linebacking corps. I mean,you got Aziz Asha here, who of
course Demiko Ryans coached with the fortynine ers. Henry to Oto. Can
he make a leap as well?I probably, I probably give an edge

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to the twenty twelve as far asfront seven, and then when you get
into the secondaries and you're talking aboutKareem Jackson, Daniel Manning, Glover,
Quinn, Jonathan Joseph, I probablygive the advance to twenty twenty twelve as
well. Going against Derek Stingley,Jalen Petrie, Jimmy Ward, Kamari Lassiter,

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Desmond King. So defense, Ithink I give the edge twenty twelve
offense, I think I give totwenty twenty four. All right, quick,
well, I'm gonna take a breakhere, but let's get Chris in
Jersey Village here real quick. What'sup? Chris? Yeah, good morning?
Ross. Hey, listen, ifyou can ask Dana Brown if anybody
is untouchable, I had to tradedeadline in our minor league system, and

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if they if there are some untouchables, how many? How many untouchables are
there? I don't know if they'llanswer at Ross, but I thought it
would be I would imagine he wouldn'tdirectly Chris, but I can try to
get that in. Thank you verymuch and appreciate you listening. I think
it, you know they Dana Brownsaid that he didn't really want to trade

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guys away last year and then tradedtwo top their top guys, but also
was with Justin Verlander, you're gettinghim back. You're going for a World
Series championship. So I think atthe end of the day, for the
most part, if everybody has aprice right, and that's kind of what
matters for the Houston Astros. AndI imagine it'll be somewhat of an answer

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like that Chris, but we'll seeif we can get to it. Of
course, a lot of stuff toget to with Astros general manager Dana Brown
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of your Astros'. The Sean SalisburyShow continued Astros GM Dana Brown for the

(02:19:16):
weekly visit. You got me Rosshere Dana. Unfortunately Sean having to step
out, but we still of coursehave to. The show goes on and
we'll discuss a number of things here. Coming back from the All Star break
now a little bit different from ageneral for a general manager, you know,
the players like the off time,the coaches as well. Is it
business as usual for you? Youdon't get to kick up your feet and

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get a little bit of that Naplewine or what's the All Star break like
for you? Yeah? All startbreak is you know we still, of
course we had the draft Sunday,Monday Tuesday, so right, toward the
end of the you know, thelast game we had with Sunday, so
we went right until day one ofthe draft, Day two, day three
on Monday and t Tuesday, andyou know there's you know, trade conversations

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starting up, you know on Wednesdays, so and then here we are on
Thursday. So we you know,we stay pretty busy. Yeah, what
is it like for you just asthe calendar goes on with the draft and
is do you think that's when thefocus turns As far as if conversations let's
just say one to ten right beforethe deadline, maybe conversations are heating up

(02:20:24):
close to a ten. Where wouldyou put them right now? Yeah?
I mean, uh, it fluctuates, to be honest. You know.
You know some days you feel like, oh, yeah, we're we're making
progress. The other day it's like, you know, we're not making as
much progress. So I think thekey is with its trade deadline is you

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have to keep discussions going and youhave to talk to other gms and you
know, try to work out somethingthat makes sense for your club and their
club. You keep the ball moving, and of course conversations can fluctuate depending
on team needs. Do you doyou feel like there's more of an urgency
for starting pitching with the squad,with the Luis Garcia and Land mccullor's junior

(02:21:09):
news. Yeah, I mean,like I said before, we're always in
the market of pitching. It's allabout pitching, pitching, pitching. But
you know, we definitely want todo something at the deadline with pitching.
So you know, one of theproblems is other teams are also looking for
pitching, and so there's probably gonnabe a lot of people in the market

(02:21:31):
for pitching, but there's not enoughpitching that are around, and so you
know, we'll try to be aggressiveand we're in conversations you know, every
day, so pitching is very important. Yeah, pitching, of course,
very important. I mentioned those twoguys, do you have some updates on
them? And then also justin Verlander, Yeah, I mean Verlander is starting
to throw sides. You know,that's a good thing with no issues,

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So that's a you know, likeI said, that's a really that's a
good thing. Mcculors has had somewhatof a setback, so he's not throwing
that right now. He's being evaluatedeach day. And Garcia is you know,
he's throwing seventy five feet and youknow he's going to get back on
the boat, Uh, throw itback on the mount in a couple of

(02:22:13):
days here. So he's back tomaking some more progress. So you know,
I was looking at the light.The light's looking a little brighter for
Verblander and Garcia. We're still,you know, sort of day to day
trying to figure out the colors.Astro's general manager Dana Brown with us here
on the Sean Salisbury Show. Dowe have a clear time timeline on Kyle

(02:22:35):
Tucker. No, not a cleartimeline, but I would say that you
know, he's playing catch and hittingin the cage, So he's playing catch
on the field, hitting in theindoor cage and outside he's doing a little
bit of light baseball activity as faras baseball movements. So he's getting there,

(02:22:56):
not not feeling as much of theissue as before, and so,
uh, you know, hopefully wecan get him back here soon. We're
definitely gonna need him here for thestretch run on the second half. So,
uh, he is making progress.Joe Spot had mentioned at some point,
depending on how much time Kyle missed, possibly a rehab assignment. But

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also we've seen you guys just plugpeople back into the lineup. Do you
do you have any as far asdiscussions about that. Yeah, it's probably
gonna be a rehab assignment so hecan get his timing right, you know
that that's that's probably you know,he's been out for a while since the
beginning of the June, so it'sgonna it's gonna require you know, some
some some rehab games, maybe insugar Land, but yeah, I would

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definitely foresee, uh, you know, a few games at least to get
his timing back. All right.We of course talked about the starting pitching,
and as you said, pitching,pitching, pitching. You can never
have too much pitching. The bullpenhas been very good lately, but you've
also got some guys high usage asfar as you know, Taylor Scott throwing
more than he has, Brian Braygoing out there a lot, Josh Hater,

(02:24:03):
Brian Presley. What is that foryou, like, as far as
monitoring those guys and their usage,and then also maybe wanting to add a
bullpen arm if you can. Yeah, we can add a bullpen arm.
That would be gravy, uh,you know, help out some of the
workload of those guys, they've beencarrying us in that first half. We're
hoping to get you know, someuh some good innings out of Duben,

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some good innings out of King,who we called up. You know,
Seth Martinez has been steady all year. So you know we've been getting you
know, some got some some helpfrom you know, calling up King and
uh, you know, getting Dubinback in the in the pen. So
uh, but if we can addsomething there that would be that would be
nice, maybe take off the workloadof some of the other guys. Yeah,

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what what is that? By theway, what kind of a magical
lickxer you guys got up there?I mean you got run out Blanco having
the season that he's had. Youmentioned Brian King, He's been effective.
Taylor Scott, I mean has justbeen straight up lights out. What is
it about the pitching the gurus thatyou guys have that it just seems like

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people that we maybe haven't heard ofor weren't on a radar performing so well
this year. Yeah, I meanit starts with Matt Hogan. I mean,
Matt Hogan runs our pro department.He'll resees player personnel, you know,
he puts some of these guys onthe radar for us, you know,
and you know, we and thenwe you know, of course try
to go after him. You know, I think he was one of the

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ones that really you know, putthe highlight on Scott you know, actually
our you know, big big bookingcoach, you know, put the highlight
on King. I think we acquiredKing on that Rule five draft. So
I mean we have you know,we we were working constantly, you know,
to find some edges just based onour information. And you know,

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we take a look from a scoutingstandpoint, We put the data in there,
and then we do a check onthe makeup, you know, those
three checklist things that we always do, and these guys check off, you
know, we go after them.So I think they're doing a good job.
Astros general manager Dana Brown with uson the Sean Salisbury Show. Uh
mentioned some we have talked about pitching, and also you have some guys who

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I haven't you know, they're notnecessarily in this day and age of baseball
going to go out there and justthrow you two hundred innings easily. What
is it like for you as faras if you could plan things out perfectly?
Renel Blanco, Hunter, Brown Righetti, those types of guys watching their
innings and in a perfect world,would you like to go to a six
man rotation. Yeah, at somepoint, you know, we may have

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to go to a sixth man,even without you know, JV being back,
you know, just to monitor theworkload. That may mean calling up
if you don't make the trade sooner, may mean calling up you know,
AJ Bouball, maybe Ryan Gusto,one of those guys. You know,
just to get into a sixth man, to get these guys a brief either

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or even if it means skipping astart, you know, just sometimes you
know, you just have to givethese guys a breather because we're going to
need them down the stretch and thatsecond half is going to be a grind.
You know, it's going to bea grind. You know, where
four games over were one game backand so it's it's it's going to be
a grind, and we're going tostart right out of the gate playing Seattle.

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So you know, we want todefinitely give these guys a breather so
they could be ready all the waydown the stretch because it will definitely be
a grind in September as we racefor the division, all right, Dana,
and then before we get you outa first base. Of course,
we've talked about a lot this seasonwith the Jose Obray you thing, and
then now, how are you feelingabout the John Singleton, what he's been

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able to do, and possibly exploringother options either internally or externally. Yeah,
Singleton's had a nice little stretch,you know. Yeah, he's had
a stretch of hitting over three hundredwith an eight hundred opsh. You know,
we give him a breather every nineand every now and then versus the
lefties. Uh, you know,whether we put Dubon over there. Uh,

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you know, so right now,you know, he's really stepped it
up for us. You know,we hope he can continue to play well.
Uh, but he really has steppedit up since he's been getting some
every day playing times very difficult.This sport's very difficult to hit right,
and so sometimes when you're playing offthe bench, it's really really difficult.

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It gets more difficult. So ultimately, you know, he's he's had a
little bit of a runway where he'sbeen playing mostly every day and he's you
know, he's answered the call andso we hope that he can keep that
up and you know, we'll continueto rest them, probably against lefties at
times. But we've been very excitedabout what he's done at first base and

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he played played played a really gooddefense too as well. Yeah, yeah,
it's definitely been making some plays overthere. That's the Astros manager General
manager Dana Brown. Dana, weunder it's very very busy times around this
time of year, So really appreciateyou joining us and thanks for the time.
Absolutely absolutely we're coming ashtrol fans hangingthere with us. All right,
there we go, one game back, That's what I'm talking about. Big

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series this weekend against Seattle. Thanksto Dana Brown, h the conversations heating
up after the draft. We'll seewhat happens next couple of weeks. Under
two weeks now before the trade deadline. Here on the MLB calendar, all
right, seven one three two onetwo five seven ninety is the phone number
if you want to get in SeanSalisbury. Unfortunately under the weather had to

(02:29:33):
duck out. I'm here at rosviw real with you until ten o'clock.
You want to get in seven onethree two one two five seven ninety react
to anything Dana had to say Texansof course in training camp. One segment
left with you until ten o'clock andthen it'll be next up with Chris Gordy
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(02:29:54):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.Sales good a one game back big
series this weekend against the Seattle Mariners. But hey, you gotta get a
little bit of the old old schooljams back there, man, I appreciate
you, yes, sir. Whatwhat other themes are there? Other theme
days? Like I said, I'mgonna be honest, I'm not normal normally
up before ten am. First ofall, I'm a night out. Second

(02:30:16):
of all, I don't have tobe at work till noon. Uh So
there's Western Wednesday, there's thrown backThursday. In a freaky Friday, start
okay, funky Friday, Little JamesBrown, Curtis Mayfield. Yeah, feeling
a need to I need to fillin on a funky Friday. It's some
of that going. You still comein, how about you play a little

(02:30:37):
how about little Parliament's Parliament going?And I can't forget about that? Okay,
all right, Monday and Tuesday.Oh, Monday and Tuesday. That's
kind of the days that regular day. Yeah, Okay, you're like,
I'm lazy, it's a Monday.I don't have to I don't want to
think right now. I don't wantto have to do a think about a
theme day, mos. I justreally just play like up to date music,
okay, hip hop right type?Yeah, there we go. So

(02:31:00):
what is a throwback? Thursday?Tomorrow will be a funky Friday here on
a Sports Talk seven ninety and theSeawan Salisbury Show. A couple of minutes
with you guys. Yeah, thanksto Dana Brown for joining us. Good
stuff with him, and yeah,I think we could prepare ourselves for a
world. It's it's interesting because Icould see it going any different number of

(02:31:20):
different ways for the Astros. Aswe inch closer and closer to the trade
deadline now under two weeks away,coming up on July thirty. First,
where is there going to be?I don't think we're gonna come out with
no deals made, But is itgonna be no deals of real big significance.
I think is possible, but Iwouldn't say it's the favorite I think

(02:31:43):
we're talking about minimum one deal maybeI would say even a couple of deals,
maybe one lesser as far as areliever, somebody that can give you
some innings, because as I mentioned, I was going through it earlier,
and I'll really do a more ofa deep dive in this problem at some
point later today, because I've beenmeaning to do it. And I don't

(02:32:03):
know if you know me, butI'm a procrastinator. I put things off.
That's just how it goes. Soyeah, I've been meaning to like
do this deep dive into the Astros, but of course, you know,
a hurricane barrel hit and I've beenI'm actually still without power, but I
digress. So yeah, you have. I mean, Taylor Scott has already
thrown more pitches and more innings thanhe's ever has in a major league season.
You have Brian a Bray you pacingfor throw as many appearances or innings

(02:32:24):
as he's thrown an entire major leagueseason. Same thing for Josh Hater.
I mean, the Ryan Presley usageis up. And that's why it just
kind of makes me laugh when peopleare like, how why are you throwing
Montero here? Why are you throwingthis? Like you gotta throw other guys
you just simply do. Seth Martinezis thrown forty four innings this year's were

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almost forty three. Sean Duban you'veused as well, Like these guys.
Unfortunately, you've been using bullpen games. You've had all these injuries with the
starting pitchers. It's also not theday and age of where you have going
seven to eight innings. Really,only one guy at this moment that you
can count on to go deep intogames consistently and then has shown and has

(02:33:07):
a track record of doing it isfrom Ravaldez, and then arra Getty can
be wild or effectively wild depending onthe start and rack up the rack up
the pitches and rack up the innings, so he doesn't normally go deep in
games. Thankfully, you've been gettinga lot of quality starts from Hunter Brown,
who's really starting to show things,show you some stuff and turn things

(02:33:28):
up and ramp it up and geta lot better. But Renald Blanco isn't
a guy. I mean, okay, he threw no hitter, but normally
routinely you're not expecting eight to nineinnings out of him. That's not the
nature of baseball. And also he'salready about to come up on throwing as
many innings as he ever has asa professional. So I do think some
relief help is an order. Ido think a starter, maybe not a

(02:33:52):
stud guy if they can afford it. Or does Dana Brown come to Jim
Crane and say, hey, Igot this deal for a stud starter that
I can make, but it's gonnacost us a little bit in the future.
Because Dana Brown has always talked aboutchasing championships. He's said it before.
As long as I'm an owner,contention will be basically the number.

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I'm not saying this verbatim, butjust paraphrasing basically things that Jim Crane has
said before. If I'm the ownerof the Astros, we are looking to
content. We're not looking to rebuild. They did the whole blow everything up,
and it was painful, and interestwas down, the stands were empty.
Jim Crane's like, I ain't goingback, baby, I don't want
to go back to that life wherewe don't have close to forty thousand in

(02:34:35):
the building every single night. Andof course revenue's up, but Jim Crane
has spent and shown a propensity todo that. And then last year I'm
sure he was involved in the conversationwhere Dana Brown said, Hey, we
can get Justin verlanderback, but it'sgonna cost us two of our top guys,
Jim Crane, let's go push thechips in. Can it happen again

(02:34:58):
this year? I don't know.It's gonna take some some wizardry, some
alchemy, some something to get thingsconjured up. And then, of course
the question of first base sounded like, just from what Dana Brown and asking
him about the situation at first base, he's pretty happy with John Singleton.
He has been ramping things up interms of the ops numbers and all that

(02:35:20):
type of stuff. And lo andbehold, we'll see come post trade deadline.
If I'm talking to you folks intwo weeks, whether it be this
show, the Matt Thomas Show,the Night Cap, I don't know,
Astros on Deck something, whatever showI'm on, will we be talking about
John Singleton still being the everyday firstbaseman. We shall see. All right,
that's gonna do it. For theShawn Salisbury Show here on Sports Talk

(02:35:43):
seven ninety. My name is rosVi Reale saying thanks so much to those
of you who listen to the program. I really do appreciate it. Thanks
to Sean Salisbury, who unfortunately gota little bit under the weather had to
duck out. Thanks to Dana Brown, astros general manager, for joining us,
and of course thanks to Triple Aspinning the records doing a great job
keeping us on air as he alwaysdoes. Coming up next is Next Up
with Dana Brown. I'm excuse me, what Shawn's stand Northfleet and Chris Gordy

(02:36:09):
and then it'll be The Matt ThomasShow with Matt Thomas and some really handsome
talented guy. That's coming up atnoon