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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
To usc Troup's longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 5 (00:23):
The one founded up the third baseline backhanded by Page
just fair throws to first in time and the side
is retired. Astros had a leadoff double by Pena. They
had first and second and one out, but they come
up empty.

Speaker 6 (00:37):
Here's the two breaking ball, got it, strike three frozen
with the curveball. This guy's got some stuff. Back to
back strikeouts there. Astros get a one out hit and
that's it. We'll go to the stretch.

Speaker 7 (00:49):
Three one to Myers and Jake hits it in the center.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
Cruz going back, still going back, runs it down on
the warning track two steps from the wall, and the
side is retired.

Speaker 7 (01:00):
And that is the ball game.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
Pittsburgh Pirates even up the series is these two teams
trade shutouts. Pirates went at three nothing.

Speaker 8 (01:09):
Yeah, you could hear it from Robert Ford and Steve
Sparks right there. That is pretty much the way the
night went in Pittsburgh for the Astros. And with that
we say away we go in good morning here on
the Sean Salisbury Show, Dan Matthews here, Cole Thompson in
for Sean this Morning, Triple, Emmanuel Elmore hanging out with
you and Cole.

Speaker 7 (01:28):
I mean you could hear it from Robert and Steve's voice.

Speaker 8 (01:30):
That was the entire night there where you're sending out
Ryan Gusto to start the game and he did exactly
what he's done four and a third. I mean, he
gives up three runs and you still feel like, all right, well,
you've got a chance in this game, and you felt
like you had a chance against a guy within eight
point six y four era in this one, making his

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fourth start, and you were only able to get a
handful of hits. You struck out six times against him,
and you don't score a single run.

Speaker 7 (02:01):
Good job.

Speaker 9 (02:03):
We were talking about this yesterday, how the offense at
this point probably should start to feel like more of itself.
I'll two again, back in a swing, Walker getting back
in a swing. Ya are getting back in a swing.
Schmalker three strikeouts, two Bay one hit. Yanidi has two hits,
which is good, but then Jake Myers not being able

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to complete. You have Ter Karantini getting two strikeouts, Jacob
Meltain getting three strikeouts and Meltain.

Speaker 7 (02:29):
You give a little bit of a pass too.

Speaker 9 (02:31):
He's still getting acclimated to the major leagues, still trying
to find his way against major league pitching.

Speaker 7 (02:35):
But still this is not a good Pittsburgh team. I
will say.

Speaker 9 (02:39):
I remember when I was in here on Tuesday and
I was talking about if you're able to walk away
with two wins.

Speaker 7 (02:44):
In this series.

Speaker 9 (02:45):
I'm okay with losing the Gusto game only because of
it means that vintage fromber is there. We are getting
more of what we want to see from Lance mccolors.
Mccullor's did his part, if Robert does his part, you
walk away with the series win on the road, which
is going to be what the first is the Minnesota SI.
So you feel a lot better about where the team's
direction is. But still it's a guy making his fourth

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career start. It's Ryan Gusto doing Ryan Gusto things, and
the offense coming back to reality instead of having another
step forward in that right direction where over the last month, Yeah,
each pret's wasn't good in the homestand but you trust
that he's gonna be able to turn the corner that
in two forty eight you know, you have two strikeouts
last night. Is this now becoming a problem and that
one homer that gets to the two run insurance going

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into the ninth ending? Is that like the outlier at
this point, there's just so much inconsistency. And I think
that's the constant problem when you talk about the Sastros team.

Speaker 8 (03:37):
No, it's one hundred percent. I mean you mentioned Peretis.
He wears an OH for four last night, Christian Walker
oh for four to three strikeouts and the one that
was not a strikeout was an ending ending double play.
I mean, and it's I understand that a lot of
people are gonna say, oh, you're putting it on one guy,
you're attacking one guy. But yeah, you when you sign
a contract for three years, sixty million and you're being

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paid twenty million per there's a certain amount of expectations
that come with you not batting two to eight with
a six thirty four ohps.

Speaker 9 (04:05):
There's another thing that comes with it when you have
runners in the scoring position on six different times and
you go over for with scoring position so and he
being in the in that cleanup spot, you expect him
to be at least driving in runs or.

Speaker 7 (04:19):
You at least expect him putting the ball in.

Speaker 9 (04:20):
Play, not getting down to an account, and then watching
an eighty three miles slider to slip past him as
he's going and with it, like, that's the problem here.
It's not that, Okay, he's your six hole hitter and
you have a guy on first, no harm, no foul.

Speaker 7 (04:35):
It's when you get the guys in.

Speaker 9 (04:37):
Front of you that you know that you need to
be in the heart of your lineup or at the
top of your lineup, and then you're signed to drive
them in and you're swinging at junk once again, like,
it's the inconsistencies that we see offensively with Christian Walker.

Speaker 7 (04:50):
And and again.

Speaker 9 (04:51):
I'm the president of the Christian Walker fan club in
the city. I gladly will take that crown, and I
have no problem with that. Defensively, there's a reason why
he's on the field. But at some point the offensive
metrics have to kind of pan out when you're hitting
in the four hole.

Speaker 8 (05:05):
Well, I mean they have to pan out when you're
hitting in the four hole to not hit two O eights.
But it's also I mean, I feel like we kind
of give him a pass because he hits the walk
off home run. He hits the home run that give
him the lead, which obviously was the game winning run
because Pittsburgh didn't score any runs that night, even though
you got the two run homer. As you laid out with,
he's sacked Peretis. But I mean it's just it's Spurts,

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three years, twenty million per I don't need Spurts.

Speaker 7 (05:29):
So is he the need productions out of that spot?

Speaker 9 (05:31):
See the Marvin Lewis of the MLB right now, where
like in a year, you know you gotta be fired,
you end up taking to the playoffs and get another extension.

Speaker 7 (05:39):
So we give him a little bit of a pass.

Speaker 8 (05:41):
I was wondering where you're going with this, But yeah,
I mean for at least sixty one games.

Speaker 7 (05:44):
Yeah, sure, absolutely he has been offensively. Just go ahead
and say it.

Speaker 8 (05:48):
He's been disappointed, incredibly disappointing offensively.

Speaker 9 (05:51):
But then you'll get like twenty games in and it'll
get the walk off home or will have a three
RBI game, or we'll have the five rbida or four
four for five. It's like, okay, here's ten more games
for you to prove that this is what we're looking for.
Oh back, to two toh eight back to six strikeouts. Cool,
this is what we expect.

Speaker 8 (06:08):
I'll trade it for a handful of games in a row,
four or five of two for threes, two for fours,
three for fours. I mean, that's what I'll absolutely trade
that for right now, because that's what you need out
of him. The walk off home run's nice, The go
ahead home run, same deal there. And you know some
of the other hits he's gotten. I mean, he was
the game winning run on Sunday because you didn't score

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any other runs and you didn't need any more runs,
but still you only scored one run in that game.
I mean, that's the thing to me that it's like,
you know, we always every single time he does it,
we're like, okay, hey, you know, maybe this could get
him going, Maybe this could get him going. And then
it's Groundhog Day all over again. The following day, he
goes over four with three strikeouts and grinding into an

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inning ending double play.

Speaker 9 (06:50):
But again it's like, Okay, so he gets the RBI
in the series, Naley at home. Then you get the
one nothing lead over Paul Schemes, one of the best
pitchers in Major League Baseball right now, and so we're
giving you that grace period, but can we also look
at the rest of the line when that's your only hit.
I'm a little disappointed here because it's like, you give
me that serotonin, you give me that endorphins, that this

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is the turning point. It's like, oh, well, you got
the RBI, but you also had two strikeouts. You also
had a ground out, you also had to fly out.
You also popped out in fair foul territory. You also
had three strikeouts in the process. So cool, you got
that RBI. But it's like that one little like blip
on what would be an very underwhelming day at the play.
But because of you won the game technically with your

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one nothing score, we're gonna give you a little bit.

Speaker 7 (07:38):
Of a leeway. And that's where we got to kind
of stop it at this point.

Speaker 8 (07:41):
And that's why I asked Dana about him and Jiner
Diaz yesterday. I mean because yin or yeah, you mentioned it.
He gets a couple of hits, but a couple of singles,
That's that's not what I need out of you. I
need more out of you than a couple of singles.
You're not a slap hit or get on base type
of guy. You're a guy that should be somebody who's
hitting close sort of three hundred than you are right now,

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and should be putting base balls over the wall and
should be hitting extra base hits, and you're not getting
that right now. Instead you're getting sixty one games in
another one of those his asses outside the box and
he's swinging over the top of a slider that he
has no business offering at and he's going to have
no chance of being able to hit.

Speaker 9 (08:19):
I understand that we love Jake Myers in the way
that he's played this year, but in no world Dan Matthews,
should Jake Myers have a higher ops than yiner ds.

Speaker 8 (08:29):
I will give him credits, and I you know, with
the bashing of the offense right now, that hit he
got last night he would not have gotten last year
or two years ago. Ohich for sure taking it the
other way, going with it and being able to work
the count, not swinging over the top of pitches that
he needs to be laying off of, because that's been
the massive improvement this year that we've seen out of

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Jake Myers. So some credit does need to be given
in terms of his development. But I mean, it's just
it's continuously the guys that you need it from that
yet again you're not getting it. Sixth inning last night,
you heard the call right there from Robert Ford. You
get the Jeremy Pania leadoff double where he looks almost
like Adrian Beltray falling down to a knee on that swing,

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nearly riding it out of the park. Then you get
the line out from estcoc Paratis. All right, fine, the
walk from Jose Al two than cool. I've got to
have one of those guys score in that spot. One
of them has to come home. It's one of them.

Speaker 9 (09:25):
It wasn't the ta gest shot at Jake Myers because
Jake Myers again what he's doing this year, But you
also expect him to be a singles guy. You expect
him every once in a while to be the extra
base hit guy because of his speed. You're not asking
him to hit three hundred and seventy five yard shots
out in PNC Park.

Speaker 8 (09:40):
You're pay I pressive if he did. You're paying that
for Christian when you're a thousand feet over a thousand feet,
but go ahead.

Speaker 7 (09:45):
You're paying that for Christion. That would be impressive.

Speaker 9 (09:47):
You're paying that for Christian Walker, you're paying that for Yardydas,
you're some paying that for escoc Parets, who you trade
it for. You're hoping that jose al two, they still
has that power. And so when you come up to
those situations, even if it just goes as a as
a zap down the left field line, and you're able
to score two in that process and it's like coming
off the bat at one hundred and twelve miles, you'll
take that because that's what you're paying for. But when counseler,

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now you're sitting in O two and you have to
take your pitches properly because you don't want to be
swinging at junk, then you set.

Speaker 7 (10:17):
Yourself up to fail.

Speaker 9 (10:18):
And it's not just Walker. I mean like again, it's
al Tuove. You're seeing him finally start to get into
a rhythm. The singles are fine, but the singles are
fine when you have.

Speaker 7 (10:27):
A runner at third, not when you have a runner
at first.

Speaker 9 (10:30):
It does nothing for you, Guy Udias, And so like
that's where the disconnect is right now, is you feel
like that you get a massive and again the other
thing is just like you were able to watch as
Lance mccullors goes out there, gets his first win in
over one thousand days. He pitches up to the same
level as the n al Cy Young favorite every single year,

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or at least go to be at this point, and
then the very next day, once again offense Minnigilling.

Speaker 7 (10:56):
You're pitching.

Speaker 9 (10:57):
You know what to expect from Ryan Gusto. You have
to trust that somebody is gonna step on up. You
find yourselves in situations where you can score and lo
and behold. It's a three to nothing lost to one
of the worst teams in the National League.

Speaker 8 (11:09):
Five of your hits last night or singles, two of
them are doubles. You get seven hits in the entire game.
I mentioned this stat too that I mean, it's easy
to remember, but your last thirty three innings of action
at the plate, you scored four runs.

Speaker 7 (11:23):
Four you've had you.

Speaker 9 (11:25):
Were outscored by a Tampa Bay Rays team by a
plus different run differential twenty one.

Speaker 7 (11:31):
You currently are tied. No, no, no, no, my bad.

Speaker 9 (11:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah, you're tied right now with the Pirates
in a in a zero run differential.

Speaker 7 (11:39):
After what we saw last night.

Speaker 9 (11:40):
It's the Pirates, man, and you're trying to treat this
like this is a team that still has the ability
to go on a run and win the Ale Pennant.
You can't do that against Pittsburgh team that is such
a disaster offensively this year.

Speaker 8 (11:54):
Well, usually you know, I'll start with the bad news,
but then finish with the good news. The good news
is the Orioles beat the Mariners last night, so you
don't lose any ground. You're still in first place at
the moment. And then the Rangers with a little bit
of a rally in the ninth but unable to take
down the Rays, so Tampa Bay beating them five to four,
so you don't give up any ground to them, and

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you also keep the Mariners at least at half a
game behind you. So that is the good news on that.
We'll continue to talk about this. Seven one three two
one two five seven ninety is the number to get
in against Semon one three two one two five seven ninety.
Game one of the NBA Finals coming up tonight in
Oklahoma City. It'll be the Pacers and Thunder in that

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series and Women's College World Series Final in Oklahoma City.
Last night, Texas with a sixth inning couple of runs
able to take down Texas Tech two to one. So
the Longhorns going for one more win to become the
national champions in softball. So a lot of different things
to get into. We're just getting started here. It is
the Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 7 (13:02):
Let's go across.

Speaker 8 (13:03):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Obviously went viral for
reasons that we can understand.

Speaker 9 (13:10):
Lifetime pass going to that, going to Alberta for her
literally any single Stanley Cup playoff matchup, she should be
sitting in front row every single time.

Speaker 8 (13:18):
Well, I think that probably my favorite of all of
it last year was some of the outrage and Jason
and Billy will get you guys involved here in the conversation.

Speaker 7 (13:24):
You want to join them.

Speaker 8 (13:25):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety was
her video explaining herself last year, where she was like,
I got drunk and showed the goods, So what.

Speaker 7 (13:33):
So what okay? For starters?

Speaker 9 (13:35):
Number one, it's Canada, That stuff is fine over there.
It's a normal Tuesday afternoon for them. Number two it's
a playoff win in overtime. And number three, whenever you
get alcohol involved, you gotta go ahead and take a
fifty to fifty.

Speaker 7 (13:50):
I I love her. I think that she's fantastic. I
want her front row.

Speaker 9 (13:54):
But of course with that front row seat, you gotta
go ahead to make sure that you live up on
your end of the bar. Oh interesting, I think cod
A McDavid and Leon dry Sidle will be very happy
to go ahead and get that coming their way after
a goal.

Speaker 8 (14:06):
I don't think anybody's can play not in it'll be
the new age Tyler Sagan sign. If you don't know
what I'm talking about, look it up. I mean, I
understand there's probably kids out there, so don't want to
dive too deep into it, but I'll just say I'll
just say, look for Tyler Sagan sign.

Speaker 9 (14:20):
Last night was the best night in sports in my
household because of Kirson as such a huge Texas fan,
so Texas Texas Tech was on. We had the Astros
game on against Pittsburgh, and then you go out to Edmonton.
Huge hockey fan. I gotta watch all three games back
to back to back and keep up with everything because
of the way that it was scheduled. That is how
you do perfect scheduling. ESPN and television ratings enjoy the consumer.

Speaker 7 (14:43):
I am the consumer.

Speaker 9 (14:44):
Let me get Astros early, let me get softball middle,
let me close was Oh, this.

Speaker 8 (14:48):
Series time wise has been amazing. I mean, you know,
being able to hit the post game at eight o'clock
and be done before nine, plenty of time to be
able to go to sleep, and you know, able to
finally do that last night. But it just would have
been better had the offense been better last night, and
that was not the case. As I mentioned, they get
shut out there in the second game of the series,

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the rubber game of the series coming up later on
this evening. Again, someone three, two, two, five, seven ninety
is the number to get in. Jason wants to lead
us off this morning. Good morning, Jason.

Speaker 7 (15:23):
Oh that was so.

Speaker 10 (15:24):
Great man, that song that y'all played when y'all came
back from the brink of so into you. Who wouldn't
be into that grove? Who flashes everybody?

Speaker 7 (15:33):
It's timely?

Speaker 8 (15:33):
I mean, that's that's the way the Triple E works, man,
he he, he always sets the tone.

Speaker 10 (15:39):
Oh that was great. But anyway, look, I watched the
Astros with my wife all the time, and I'm not
like a pool playd Jazzros fan. I won't you know,
sit here and lie to you about that. Uh but
you know, I'm watching the game with my father in
law last night and he's like, well, hell, how do

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we beat Paul's Skins and they come back and take this?
You know, I keep you know, I've been listening over
the last couple of days and I've heard multiple people
on the radio say, well, you know, we we we're
still we're still in the AL race. You know, we
can still win the penny. You know, but I look
at last year's team, and I look at this year's

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team and the teams prior. You know, it's like, honestly,
right now, from a baseball fan's perspective who loves baseball,
you know, I see the you know, the Astros being
a five hundred team and being able to make the playoffs,
you know, because of the division, because we all know
the Mariners always collapse. But at the same time, the

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other gentleman that's on the radio with you talked about,
you know, the fact that he thought, you know, the
AL you know, they could still contend for the AL.
But the problem is the other teams that you know
that are honestly better than the ash shows. And we're
talking Detroit. You know, and we know all the other teams,

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what team could they honestly I mean, we know they're
capable of going on the run, but what team could
they honestly be better than at this point? Because I
just at this point in time, I just they're good
enough to make the you know, the wild card round,
but can they honestly get past that playing the way
they're playing now?

Speaker 8 (17:27):
Hey, appreciate the call, Jason. I mean, we'll go ahead
and take that point. Here's the good and the bad news.
You're not better than the Detroit Tigers. You're not better
than the New York Yankees. Right now, you are neck
and neck with Seattle, even with the struggles the Rangers,
I'm not completely counting them out. And I mean you've
also got Minnesota, Cleveland in there. I mean, Tampa Bay.

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They just showed you. You played them seven times this year,
you lost four of those games. So take that for
what it's worth. Here's the good news, Jason. I don't
need to be better than them on June the fifth.
I need to be better than them on October the fifth.
And there's a lot of baseball to be played between
now and then, and a reason why those teams at
least in the American League are in front of you
at the moment. Is because Detroit they're not known for
their offense, but they've been better than you offensively. They're

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plus ninety two run differential this year, the Yankees plus
ninety five this year in run differential, and a couple
of the other teams that I just mentioned, they're way
ahead of you. I mean your plus fifteen run differential
at the moment.

Speaker 7 (18:21):
But that's just it.

Speaker 8 (18:22):
It's at the moment the key with this Astros team.
It's exactly what I said during the Rocket season with
Jalen Green. Jalen Green scores, this team wins. Sure the
Astros hit, this team wins. And that's been the problem
way too many times this year. I talked about it
last night. I would venture to probably guess twenty one
of your twenty eight losses that you've had this year
have been because of offensive inefficiency and at times offensive

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and ineptitude.

Speaker 9 (18:46):
I would go with less than ten percent of your
losses are based off of pitching.

Speaker 7 (18:50):
I will firmly agree with you on that.

Speaker 9 (18:51):
Detroit, New York, I would say Minnesota at this point
because of the way their offense is clicking, and I
would probably say Cleveland are better than you.

Speaker 7 (18:58):
Those are the four teams.

Speaker 9 (18:59):
That I would say automatically in this five minutes, in
a five game series, I'd probably take them right now.
But I agree with you. It's June fifth, it's October fifth,
trade day, deadline can come, injuries can stockpile on up.
You can get back maybe a Spencer Arraghetty, you finally
get to see Yano Diaz and Christian Walker live up
to their power. Like those are things that can happen

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for you. And also, by the way, I'm not saying
that the Astros can compete for an Ale Pennant. I'm
here people say that the Ashes can compete for an
Ale Pennant.

Speaker 8 (19:28):
I'm pitching wise, they can. Offensively, they cannot, right, that's
the problem.

Speaker 9 (19:31):
But you brought this up. The Ashes are plus fifteen
and run differential. You have a Minnesota Twins team that
still feels like it's yet to hit its full stride
with the run differential plus forty eight. I mean, imagine
when they're at full capacity, everyone is healthy, and you're
not worried about having a restructure your lineup because you
don't have a. Royce lewis out there, Carlos Korea isn't

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dealing with a concussion. Briban Buxton is giving you something
offensively at the at the leadoff spot.

Speaker 7 (19:57):
It's like little things like that, you.

Speaker 9 (19:59):
Don't have that right now and you can't just rely
so heavily on your pitching.

Speaker 7 (20:02):
Detroit is the perfect example of this.

Speaker 9 (20:04):
Detroit is not getting the same results of Jack Flaherty
this year that they got last year when they shipped
them off over to Los Angeles to get some players
in return.

Speaker 7 (20:13):
But the players that they.

Speaker 9 (20:14):
Added in for the Jack Flarity deal are meeting expectations.
You're getting quality played from Hobby Biaz, You're watching as
a turn is coming around for Spencer Turklesin, Cole Keith
is delivering. So all the offensive pieces are making up
for what you don't have with your two three and
four pitcher. And when Trek Scobel goes out there, you
know he's gonna give you a masterclass. So yeah, it's

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great DF Hunter Brown, it's great DF ronber Valdez. But
when you don't have those two guys on the mound
and you need two runs two Dan, that's all masking
for not fifteen, not nineteen, not seventeen. Hits two runs
and you can't get that, and you're zero for seventeen
with rogers and scoring position, You're not better than these teams.

Speaker 7 (20:56):
But it's June fifth, not October fifth.

Speaker 9 (20:59):
Just like the text, Hey, this shots out thrown right now,
it's June fifth, It's not September seventh.

Speaker 7 (21:06):
Now, it's fair point.

Speaker 8 (21:07):
I mean, it's just you know, there there is also
a lot of perspective that goes into a lot of
these things and just kind of you know, take the
situation for the time and as exactly as I said,
I mean, and exactly what you just said as well,
is that I don't have to completely worry about it
right now, but it is a concern. I mean, that's
just because it's early doesn't mean the concerns are not valid,

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because I said the same thing last year with this team,
they had the exact similar issues with runners in scoring
position and at times just absolute just offensive, just nothingness
from them that I had said it, even with Bregman
and Kyle Tucker still in the fold, that is going
to be the achilles heel of this team and ended
up being.

Speaker 9 (21:47):
I literally just want one person of the two three,
and I mean the three, four and five hole one
of them for a week just to mash, just to
give me something here.

Speaker 8 (21:55):
And I understand not having yord on right now, but
I mean it's to your point that you just brought
up that it was Shawn numerous times, and I'll continue
to say it until it happens. I would just once
like to be able to come in and do a
show on a Monday morning, Tuesday morning, whatever day it is.
I don't even care if it's a holiday, where we say,
you know what, the Astros bats carried that team last night. Oh,

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like the Astros were able to overcome a rough start
from Gusto or whoever it might have been, and they
were able to win that game. I haven't had that
yet this season. I've now actually let me, let me
take that back. I've had it once and it was
against the Minnesota Twins, because that was the game that
your bats actually did win the game for you.

Speaker 7 (22:35):
I will take it a step further.

Speaker 9 (22:36):
I would like to come in one morning when I'm
filling in and be able to say the heart of
your lineup, the players that you're paying to mash, the
players that you expect to hit with the rarers' score position.
Are the reason that you walked away not hearing about
how Mauricio Dubon, Jacob Meltin or you could throw in
Zach Desenzo best nine hole hitter stepped up last night.

Speaker 7 (22:58):
I'm sick and tired of how having.

Speaker 9 (23:00):
That conversation because you've had that conversation as shows number
nine hold hitter, one of the best of the American League.
How about your three, four and four and five hitter.
How about we talk about them today being the guys
and the avengers of why we.

Speaker 8 (23:11):
Want well and you know that's something else that we
can continue with as Billy see you right there, We'll
get you involved in the conversation. You want to join them?
Someone three two one two five seven ninety. I have
an idea that would be nice to see executed. I
just have doubts that it ever will. We'll talk about
you here. It is a Sean Salisbury show on a Thursday,
Thursday Sports Talk seven ninety. The Shawn Salisbury Show continued, Billy,

(23:38):
good morning, Hey.

Speaker 7 (23:40):
Good morning guys.

Speaker 11 (23:41):
As always, you know, have a great show and toll
you deserve a seat at the mic.

Speaker 7 (23:46):
My friend I appreciate you.

Speaker 12 (23:48):
Man.

Speaker 7 (23:48):
I'll tell you where I don't go too much.

Speaker 8 (23:50):
All right, Let's take a year like build them up,
but then break them back down at the end of
the call. That's that's your job here, billy.

Speaker 7 (23:58):
Oh, I'm heading that direction. Don't worry yeh, let's do it.

Speaker 13 (24:02):
No.

Speaker 11 (24:03):
Yeah, the you know when you the askers bring in
a pitcher just used Kokuchi as an example. H They
reclaimed that guy Cocucci came in and he was struggled
a little bit, and in Toronto he came here and
uh they you look at what he did at the
end of last season. We don't make the playoffs without him.

Speaker 10 (24:21):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (24:21):
The Astros have done that with a lot of the
bullpen pitchers, the guys that just you know, they were
struggling in other places that come here. Josh Miller gets
ahold of them, and they makes some changes, make some
pitch selection changes, and they start doing much better.

Speaker 12 (24:36):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (24:36):
We bring in a first baseman who's hit thirty home
runs over the last three years average and two fifty hitter.
But he's an eight hundred ops guy, and all of
a sudden, he couldn't hit water if he fell out
of a boat.

Speaker 7 (24:49):
So what are we looking at here coaching?

Speaker 11 (24:53):
Our pitching coaches are excellent, and I think that it's
all levels.

Speaker 7 (24:57):
I really do.

Speaker 11 (24:58):
And we see that with the kids that are coming
up out of the minor league system as well, and
they do what is right, whatever that is. I'm not
a pitching coach, so I couldn't tell you what it is.
But our hitting coaches are obviously not getting the job done.
And maybe it's just because these hitters need a different
voice or a different approach. Swing hard in case you
hit it. That's how I play golf. Okay, that's not

(25:20):
how you hit a baseball, and that to me, it's
you know, swing early, swing early, swing early. I get it,
But you're not working a picture. You're you're not putting
the guy in the box and saying I'm going to
only swing at the pitch if it's here because it's
oh oh, all right. You approach oh oh the same
way that you approach three to oh, And that's.

Speaker 7 (25:38):
That was how I was taught how to hit.

Speaker 11 (25:40):
But anyway, it just seems to me like at some
point you've got to say, hey, look, the old line's
not getting the job done. Fire the coach, get a
new voice. Okay, the Astros offense isn't getting the job done.
Fire the coach and getting a new voice, Michael Bran
And this isn't personal, this is baseball. Michael Brantley is
sitting there and he has said that he was willing
to come in and help this team. And I'm not

(26:02):
saying Hasni and Michael Brownly. I'm saying it has to
be a different voice to get to these kids. And
I'm not talking about the I'm not talking about the
Al two Bays. I'm talking about the younger hitters. And
we're not getting that voice. And nothing is changing. And
the definition of insanity is doing the same thing the
same way and.

Speaker 7 (26:18):
Expecting a different result.

Speaker 11 (26:20):
So they've got to do something. And I don't understand
what their loyalty is to Centron and Snicker. I don't
get it. Maybe y'all can explain it. One last thing.
Call anyone who can go toe to toe with Wis
and still thinned off planning.

Speaker 7 (26:33):
You're my guy, man, You're that guy. I have a
great show, Gus than I appreciate the call, Billy.

Speaker 8 (26:39):
I think it comes down to two things, hitting wise,
approach and developments. Sure, and for the longest time you
lived the Charmed life. I mean in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,
twenty nineteen, even the early twenty twenties. I mean, look
at the guys you had in this lineup, but there's
not a lot of coaching and development that's needed. Those
guys are coached, they're developed, right, they're good to go.

Speaker 7 (26:58):
A little bit more of it is needed now.

Speaker 8 (27:00):
And I mean this is two years in a row
that you've seen stumbling starts out of the gate for
the guys that you really needed out of And we're
sixty one games in and we're still seeing a lot
of the same things that have been an issue at
the plate for guys like Janor Diaz, I mean, Christian Walker.
You know, I think you know Billy was even bringing
this up here that sixth inning at bat last night.

(27:22):
You're saying to yourself, well, no, take a pitch after
a four pitch walk, like, hell, you do you get
a hanging slider cookie like that on the very first pitch.

Speaker 7 (27:31):
You come on glued.

Speaker 8 (27:32):
Absolutely, you come on glued it because you know that
guy needs to throw a strike at that point. So
you're saying to yourself, Hey, he needs to be in
the zone here. If he's anywhere around it, I'm going.

Speaker 9 (27:42):
Well, the problem is that you take it as okay,
let's worry with this. You can't take it in the
sense of he's gonna make the same mistake again, because
that's a it's a new at batter. So whatever happens
with al Tuovan is not the way that Christian Walker
should be thinking. It's a brand new at bat. Think
of it as an o style. But remember, in the
back of your head, he just walked a batter. He

(28:03):
had two horrendous pitches on the outside. He's probably gonna
give me something that I can oncork one.

Speaker 7 (28:10):
Think of it that.

Speaker 9 (28:10):
Way, but also approach it in the same way of, hey,
it's a new count. Make sure that you're looking at
your pitches. Make sure that you're making the decisive decisions.
You're not overswinging, you're not overthinking, you're not trying to overcorrect.

Speaker 7 (28:22):
And that's been a problem.

Speaker 9 (28:23):
But I will bring up in Billy's point here, and
I'm glad we branch to the offensive line. Last season,
Texas came up fifty four sacks. Did you watch his
Tamiko Ryans in Week nine or Week eleven or week twelve,
said Chris Strausser, You're the problem.

Speaker 7 (28:38):
We gotta let you go. We have no idea what
we're gonna do with an offensive line coach.

Speaker 9 (28:42):
It's kind of the same thing with Alex Sintram, Like
right now he is probably facing the pressure to have
to start to see his offense deliver. He is probably
understanding if this does not get better, i am gonna
be looking for a new job. I'm firing at the resume.
But you're not gonna do it in the middle of
the regular season because of who's coming on in that
is automatically going to give you better results. And I'm

(29:05):
not trying to defend Cintron in this. What I'm trying
to say is is that when you get to October
and you lose, or when you get to September and
Seattle's pulling away with a division, and you realize our
offense was the reason why we were hindered from getting
another Pennant. Okay, we at the Mikes some internal changes, Alex,
thank you for the time.

Speaker 7 (29:23):
Let's go ahead and bring in another heading coach.

Speaker 8 (29:26):
Well, I mean, and it also it's exacerbated to by
the way that Alex Bregman was playing up in Boston
and how he was hitting at the beginning, and then
the same deal with Kyle Tucker, who looks like he
could be on an All Star pace right now. So
I mean, that's that's another point too that I've seen,
and I think I know who Billy is now on Twitter,
by the way, But anyway, I mean, it's just those

(29:46):
are things that kind of feed into it. But any
of those things would have to happen after the season.
And I mean, you made a conscious decision last year
to try to improve your defense and your base running.
That's why Tony Paris Chica is here. If that's the case,
then well then that decision needs to be made and
you work on it during the off season, You hit
spring training with some of those adjustments, and you hopefully

(30:06):
see better results out of the gate than you have
the last couple of years out of your offense, because
that's been the problem. I mean, I understand that pitching
is just like in football, defenses ahead of the offense
the beginning part of the season. We've all heard it,
We've all seen it. It's the same deal in baseball.
There is a lot of that, but it's just it's
the pronouncement of it that you see from this team
that you're just kind of like, geez man, like, can

(30:28):
we regain that offensive firepower again? Because even during those
times that I mentioned when you had all those guys,
when they would have their struggles, and lord knows they did,
there would always be that one game, that one inning,
that oh there's a five spot, oh there's a six spot.

Speaker 7 (30:43):
Like, yeah, these guys are still those guys.

Speaker 9 (30:46):
Well, like how you talked about with Christian Walker, you
would take a week of him going two for three
at the play versus him having three walkoff homers. It's
kind of the same way that I feel about just
this offense in general. I'll take a two seventy batting
average and a team ops of seven twenty eight if
it gives me more consistency than seeing thirteen ones run
game eight runs the next game zero zero one three

(31:09):
eight nine seven zero zero thirteen.

Speaker 8 (31:12):
I'd much rare that well, And it's just it's it's
again what I've said all throughout the season. You're getting
enough out of them, and enough does not win you
a world title. It doesn't even win you a postseason series.
And again, there is a lot of time before you
even get to that point, and maybe we can see
this offense turn a corner. But man, sooner rather than
later would be nice. The line up idea share that

(31:33):
with you here coming up and also, Joe, see you
right there. We'll get you involved in the conversation against Semon.
One three two one two five seven ninety is the
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Speaker 8 (33:37):
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Speaker 7 (33:44):
Joe wants to weigh in.

Speaker 15 (33:46):
Good morning, Joe, Hey, good morning. Hello. BET's showing town.

Speaker 7 (33:51):
Thanks b, thank you.

Speaker 15 (33:53):
I just wanted to make a couple of tome Is Rogers.
There's some rumors that the play Rogers way the second base.
Is that correct?

Speaker 8 (34:04):
Did you say trading away? You kind of cut out
there for a second.

Speaker 16 (34:07):
We're getting rid of him, we're getting rid of it.

Speaker 8 (34:09):
I mean I haven't heard that, but I mean offensively.
I mean it's hard to argue if they decide to
get to that point, because you're getting nothing offensively.

Speaker 7 (34:17):
He's a defensive replacement this point.

Speaker 15 (34:19):
Yeah, No, they think that, Uh do want could play more?
I would like to see Duan play ninety percent of
the time instead of sixty for every place. I think
that he'd he plays more often. He'll be better than
he is and he's not bad right now. Uh, but

(34:40):
how'd you like to be a Ranger fan right now,
you know, And even though Rogers ain't doing too hot,
they're like.

Speaker 16 (34:49):
Five games ahead of us, you know, with all that talent.
So I'm just saying we're still in first place. We
always we always tend to over criticize our team and
I guess every how about the talk show right now
in Dallas or wherever. So we're half a game ahead

(35:11):
of everybody. And look, look the Rangers with all that
pitching they got there are three seven last time. So
I'm just saying, maybe we tend to I know, we
need we leave probably leave more minimum bays than any
other team, just creatly.

Speaker 15 (35:30):
In American League? Is that correct? More or less?

Speaker 8 (35:34):
I have to go look at the stats on that
appreciate the call, Shoe. I mean, just start with the
first part about you know, Rogers, I mean clearly it's
already being done because he's not playing like.

Speaker 7 (35:44):
At all, he's a defensive replacement, I.

Speaker 8 (35:46):
Mean at best, because I mean just from what he's
given you offensively, the lack of what he's given you offensively,
and you know Joe brought up Dubon. I mean, you
know you've been able to use Dubon. But the problem
is the situation dictates how you set up your lineup.
You Gotjaco of Melton up here. You got Jacob Melton
up here, you're playing him right now, so you've got
to have him in one of those outfield spots. You
got Jake Myers in center, so that means left or right.

(36:08):
You don't want to take Cam Smith out, so that
puts him out and left that means Jose al Tuove
needs to play second right now. It'll be interesting to
see in the finale how Joe does the lineup today
with You know, do you give Jiner Diaz a day off?
That's a Karatini catch day Al two ve dhs. You
get Mauricio Dubon in because you do want to hit
him in the lineup from not only I mean he

(36:30):
is a guy that puts.

Speaker 7 (36:31):
The ball in play. He's playing today. I don't know
where yet, but he's playing.

Speaker 8 (36:34):
I think he's probably playing second base and you dht
al two ve. But I mean to Joe's point, I mean,
being critical does not mean you're not happy with what
you've been able to do. Yeah, I mentioned it. There
are half a game in front of the Mariners right now.
That is great and it's far better than where they
were last year. But being critical on June the fifth
of something that can be something that is an achilles

(36:56):
heel for you on October the fifth that I'm not
going to come off of because we saw it play
out that way last year and the way that you're
going right now, it's going to play out the exact
same way again. Good teams, you know, find a way
to be able to break through even against good pitching,
and that's what they were able to do in twenty
twenty two. You're up to zero, you go up to
New York and the Yankees say, all right, hey, we

(37:18):
finally got Garrett Cole. Let's see one here. We're back
into this series. Chas McCormick gets the home run, and
you're able to pile on after that point and win
that game and go up three zero in that series.
That's what good teams do. They're a boa constrictor. They
get a hold of you, they wrap themselves around you,
and they choke you out. And that's what they were
able to do. And that's what I'm just I'm not
asking for you to be the top offense in all

(37:40):
of baseball. You're not going to be that, but I'm
asking for you to be better than you have been
and at least be part of the reason why you
win games, because right now, the reason you're winning games
ain't because of you.

Speaker 9 (37:52):
I'll be dimming gloom for a minute, because if I
am always seemingly the glass half empty guy in this city.
Apparently last year, the Texans win the division, they win
a playoff game, they lose to the number one seed,
And here I am all throughout last season telling fans
and telling people and telling anybody that would listen.

Speaker 7 (38:11):
Guys, this is an average team.

Speaker 9 (38:13):
Still they haven't taken the necessary jump forward to enter
the conversation in the realm that Baltimore is in, or
that Buffalo is in, or that Kansas City is in.
And yeah, you win the divisioning, Yeah, you like the
fact that you're three games above Indianapolis in the division race,
But you expect better results with CJ.

Speaker 7 (38:31):
Strodt. You expect better results with this team.

Speaker 9 (38:34):
I'm happy that the Astros are leading in the American
League West. I'm happy that they're currently a little bit
better than what Seattle's doing. I'm happy that that soulless
franchise out in Arlington is having struggles right now. I'm
happy about that. But you're not at the same level
as New York. You're not the same level as Detroit.
You're not at the same level as Minnesota. In a

(38:54):
matchup against Tampa after what we just saw, Tampa might
have your number.

Speaker 7 (38:58):
So there's so many things.

Speaker 9 (39:00):
It's like, yeah, you're in a division to where you're leading,
but imagine if you were in the American League East,
how would you feel?

Speaker 7 (39:06):
Well?

Speaker 8 (39:06):
I mean from the Texans perspective, there wouldn't you say
that a large part of that was the outside expectations
for them and maybe buying into feeling like they were
better than they really were last year because I got
that sense. Yeah, but also a playout on the field
with the penalties and just at times ondisciplined play.

Speaker 9 (39:23):
Yeah, but also when you have const'ren as good as
you thought you were. But when you have content creators
coming out and saying, oh, CJ. Stroud for MVP, and
it's like, guys, let him just prove that he's actually
a top fifteen passer next year. How about we worry
about that and then the year three we can have
this conversation. Nah, they got They're gonna be the number
two seed, They're gonna host the AFC Championship game. That's
where it's like, guys, let's just get to eleven and six.

(39:44):
Let them just prove that they can win multiple playoff games.
Let's see them host a divisional round game for the
first time in franchise history.

Speaker 7 (39:52):
Let's see that. Like that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 8 (39:54):
Well, I will give credit where it's due on the
Texans front, because Nick Cassario even at the combine last
year was like, hey, just because we did well last
year doesn't mean it translates going forward. I think Demiko
even said similar things. So they did their best to
be able to do that. I just think that probably
human nature played out and it was oh no, no, no, hey,
we can turn this thing on and we can be

(40:15):
those teams and beat those teams that you just mentioned.
But I mean with the Astros, at least there's tangible results. Sure,
like you know that this team can do it because
they've done it twice, but you also have gotten at
least an oper you know, in a chance to be
able to win it a handful of other times, so
you at least can believe it from that perspective, even
if you don't have some of the same guys here
that were there doing it right.

Speaker 9 (40:35):
But in a five game series right now, where you
leaning DETROITYA, Houston, Oh, Detroit n percent exactly And it's
the same thing for me if it was Buffalo, Baltimore
or Kansas City, I'm leaning them over the Texans. It
doesn't mean that I'm not excited to see what this
team is doing. It doesn't mean that this team hasn't
improved in certain areas, but you're not at.

Speaker 7 (40:52):
That same level.

Speaker 9 (40:53):
And until you get to that same level, there's gonna
be criticism coming from people like us.

Speaker 7 (40:56):
When we're on the air, Christian Walker, what to do?
I have an idea. We'll see if it plays out as.

Speaker 8 (41:02):
We'll start with that in the second hour of the show.

Speaker 7 (41:06):
JTC right there.

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move Christian Walker the cleanup spot in the past, and
at times it has paid dividends, and especially to I

(44:18):
get it. You don't have Jordan Alvarez right now. But
I brought this up last night Cole on the Tenth
Inning Show. I think you guys know that I'm an
LSU fan. Most people probably know that about me. And
on Monday night, LSU was able to beat Little Rock.
And if you've been watching the college you know the
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you know you've been following along of who's still in
all of those different things. But it's the LSU example.
They have a guy on their team, Jared Jones, one
of their best hitters on the team, one of their
best power hitters, all of those things. I think he
had batted second all season long. He'd been struggling mightily
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(44:59):
to things up on Monday night and they moved them
down to the sixth spot. And Jay Johnson's reasoning for
it was, I feel like the first five guys are
gonna put together really tough at bats for the picture
that you wear him down and you just can't keep
redlining all the way through the lineup. You're going to
let up at a certain point. And you feel like
that that point he could let up at is number six.

(45:22):
I feel like, let's just try it out for a
couple of games, have him there, and in even more
than a couple of games a week two, Christian Walker
in the sixth spot, Victor Krottini as your cleanup man
right now, and just see how it goes. In terms
of the at bats. Karatine's gonna put together at a
good at bat. Karatine's gonna put the ball in play.
Is he gonna give you the power that Christian Walker can. No,

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he's not. But at the same time, he's going to
make it a tougher at bat than Christian Walker is
right now, because we touched on it earlier. He misses
that first pitch, the rest of his at bat is gone.

Speaker 9 (45:56):
I don't disagree with you about moving him because he
easouldn't be in the four hole at this point, and
we have the results, and we also look at the
numbers in the five hole. He's pretty decent, or at
least he's better in the five hole than he is
in the four hole.

Speaker 8 (46:06):
His splits have been incredibly better in the five and
then also in the three this year.

Speaker 7 (46:10):
Why not the two hole? Just humor me for a second.

Speaker 9 (46:13):
Why not the two hole because of at least then
let's say Jeremy Panygan doesn't get on base, all right,
but you're down zero two. But let's say he does
get on base. It's your first out versus him being
in a situation where maybe you're gonna have multiple arsis
coring position. So you start off the game Jeremy Panygna
walks Eastoch Grants gets a single, then you get a
Jose Al tuove, you get a Jose Al two ay walk,

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so bass is loaded. Then we throw in Kartini in
the four hole, he strikes out, Yannida is in the
five hole, he strikes out.

Speaker 7 (46:41):
Now you get.

Speaker 9 (46:42):
Christian Walker up to the plate, Well, then it's even
more so a blow because if you had the bases
loaded and still the results aren't paving the way, and
he's probably the last guy that you trust right now
to drive in a run.

Speaker 7 (46:54):
But when you throw him in the two hole, even
if he.

Speaker 9 (46:56):
Does get on base, okay, he gets on base at least,
then you're putting him in a position to where ninety
percent of the time runners and scoring position are not
going to be in play for him to be able
to drive them in or to disappoint and feel to
meet expectations.

Speaker 8 (47:09):
I mean it's also to you figure that your two
your two hole guys gonna have as many opportunities, maybe
even more to get more at bats. But also I
mean the way that the bottom of your lineup has
hit right that it's going to be RBI situations those
have been when he struggled at times this year. I
just I feel like taking that pressure off of him
moving him down a couple of spots as opposed to

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moving them up a couple of spots. I think that
that plays out more dividends.

Speaker 9 (47:33):
The question that I have right now is and it's
the youurd on effect, because when you have your on
in the lineup, it allows you to do a couple
of things a little bit different, whether that be you're
on in.

Speaker 7 (47:41):
The four hole or pitch differently right.

Speaker 9 (47:43):
But also you're on in the three hole, you're on
in the two hole. Parints can move down, you can
move Carotene up, you can move Yiner up if you
want to. That's the issue right now. I just I
don't know how far down I want to move Christian Walker,
because I agree with you in the sense of the
way that you're seven eight nine's hitting, you are going
to have more situations. And Jeremy Pang has been seeing this,
but with him leading off, you're gonna have more situations

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to drive into runs. But I feel like starting off
the game is the issue for Christian Walker.

Speaker 7 (48:09):
Ninety percent of the time.

Speaker 9 (48:10):
When he gets on base first at bat, when he's
able to drive the ball first at bat, he gains
a little bit more confidence. I think that he looks
his pitch, looks at the pitches differently. I think he
also is more balanced and consistent when selecting what way
he wants to go. So if you start him off
early in the two hole, let's just say it's like
for four games and he ends up going in all

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four games, he goes three for four with his leadoff hit,
the first inning hit. At least you know that maybe
at this point he's gaining that confidence to know what
he's looking at when it comes to pitch.

Speaker 8 (48:40):
I mean, it's just that's also been a problem for him,
is I mean I touched on it, you know, the
early in the count and then finding himself in two
strike counts, finding himself behind a one whatever it might be,
where then it's the pitcher's game, it's not yours. I mean,
that's something that you want to talk about approach and
being able to change things up. I mean that's I

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think at nauseum, and maybe Alex and Tron and Troy
Snicker are doing this with them, of showing him on
the iPad of hey, look look at how much better
you are when you offer first pitch and you are
able to put the ball in play as opposed to
trying to hit from behind, as you've done for most
of the season.

Speaker 9 (49:16):
Well, at this point, doesn't feel like that he's earned
the right to be able to go up there thinking
that I can swing at first pitch like it's not
the Jsale two VA treatment, who for the last five
years was batt in three to zero, two, three, twenty
three and had earned that respect of Hey, if it's
even close to the zone, I'm swinging because I know
that I can hit it like.

Speaker 7 (49:33):
He hasn't earned that right.

Speaker 9 (49:35):
So I think the entire approach for Christian Walker right
now has got to be wait until you see your pitch.
Now again, I agree with you after that four pitch walking,
you see what happened last night, that hanging slider that
is usually gonna go four hundred and twenty feet if
you swing properly, especially with the guy who asked that
not much power like Christian Walker. But at the same time,

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you got to make sure that your pitch count is selective.
And I think that he's so much in his head
right now when it comes to what am I looking
at versus what am I seeing that's out there? How
many guys are in base, how many guys are on base.
What is my situation to where if I if I
ground it out, am I going to be in trouble?
Like it's so much going on in his brain that
he's not able. I think to focus in on the
actual pitch count.

Speaker 8 (50:17):
Yeah, I mean, you know he should doesn't mean it
necessarily does. And that's been the problem. I mean again,
you're bat in two o eight right now. Well, that
means that a lot of things are not going to
your direction in terms of trying to be able to
produce at the plate. But sebon one three, two one,
two five seven ninety. Let's up in Illinois, j T,
Good morning, JT.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Hey, Well, first up, the Extro's got to win this
series today on the road with Fromber pitching. But I
just wanted to say a couple of things. So, the
run that this organization has been on since twenty fifteen
is unbelievable. And I look at this season, you know,
thirty three and twenty five. I think most people would say,

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you know, if you look at this part of the season,
would you say, would you take thirty three and twenty
five at the beginn of the year and then factor
in the most feared hitter in baseball other than O'tani
hasn't played much of that. And I'll just say this
because the Astros don't aren't in a position to probably
make a big deal at the trade deadline. So the
one thing I like about Jordon being out is if

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he's out for an extended period of time and he
comes back and he's one hundred percent healthy, I mean,
that's going to be the key. That's the spark that
lineup needs. And the other thing that I think is
the key for them is and I don't know if
it's just an outlier with the last couple of games
mccullors is pitched, but I mean if he gets on
a roll, I like the prospects for the Astros with

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the top three. And then I think this team, and
again this it's dependent on rdon being one hundred percent healthy,
but I think this team kind of reminds me of
the twenty twenty two Phillies when they had Nola and Wheeler.
You were they just kind of limped basically to the
finish line, but the series lined up perfectly for them

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and they threw their top two and they usually got
up two to zero in those series because if you
remember that year they almost blew it against the Cardinals.
They had a rally to win that game. So I
think if Fromber and Hunter Brown stay healthy, I think
the Astros are in a pretty good position. And again
it's all it's a key to yourd on. I mean,
if he's if he's seriously going to come back and

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one hundred percent healthy, I think this team is in
a pretty good position to compete in the the American
League playoff system. Because I don't and maybe you guys
can elaborate on this, do you look at any American
League team right now and say, oh, man, I'm really
scared of this team, because I think most teams in

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the AL right now, if you throw them in a
basically a bag, you say, what what who's the best
team right now? I really haven't noticed a clear cut Hey,
here's the favorite to win the American League. But anyway,
I'll hang up and listen. Love listening every morning.

Speaker 7 (53:04):
Thanks a lot, Hey, thanks JT.

Speaker 8 (53:06):
I mean it gets back to what I said earlier
June the fifth. I mean I don't need to be great,
you know, on June the fifth. I need to be
great on October the fifth. And to his points, and
we can talk about this a little bit after we
hit the stakeout. But I mean to his point, I
need my best baseball August.

Speaker 7 (53:25):
September, October, That's when I need my best.

Speaker 9 (53:28):
Sure, I know that we gotta get to a point,
and we gotta get to a break. There is one
team I think right now you can claim currently as
the favorite in the American League that you should fear.
And we'll talk about that later.

Speaker 8 (53:37):
Yeap, for sure, we'll continue the Astros conversation here in
this hour number two. But coming up a trend that
is pretty funny and I don't know if you've done it,
we'll talk about it here. It is The Sean Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
H Towns most Complete, Breakfast, Kolaches, Breakfast Tacos, and Sean
Salisbury Steak.

Speaker 7 (54:01):
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cleaning that microwave.

Speaker 12 (54:06):
Trust me.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
More, Sean right now on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (54:14):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

Speaker 4 (54:17):
The Salisbury's takeout, Salsbury Takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 8 (54:24):
That might be the best great show and we have
that was pretty funny of the of the you know,
the popping noise because you know you didn't poke holes
in the uh in the TV dinner that you were
eating up right there. But Salisbury's steak for breakfast, that's
an aggressive play.

Speaker 7 (54:40):
That's normal. Yeah, I mean for some I guess I
had chicken wings for breakfast today.

Speaker 8 (54:45):
That's fine. I mean I do pizza all the time.
You know, if we if we ordered pizza the night before,
uh do, what's it called? I think like I've eaten
like a couple of Burger sliders before. Yeah, you know,
so pizza for breakfast is a normal staple. Like last
week we did the eight draft for breakfast food Tired,
I asked if I could do leftovers.

Speaker 9 (55:03):
They're like, no, we got to veto that because it
could be anything. But why if I want to have
chicken wings at four thirty in the morning like I
did today walking out, I'm going to do that?

Speaker 13 (55:13):
No?

Speaker 8 (55:13):
I mean, look, you know, you do you? I mean,
you know it's everybody's got their own things, and I
mean me and you. It's more or less convenience at times.

Speaker 7 (55:20):
My ibs is gonna kill me at seven thirty.

Speaker 8 (55:22):
But alright, I'm seeing that's the road that I knew
that we did not want to go, But that's okay,
that's fine.

Speaker 7 (55:27):
I got to see the show author else.

Speaker 8 (55:29):
Yeah, for sure, it is the stakeout as the Astros
lose last night three to nothing to the Pirates NBA
Finals Game one tonight in Oklahoma City, Pacers and Thunder
playing for that one Women's College World Series Finals, Texas
takes Game one against Texas Tech two to one.

Speaker 7 (55:45):
They're in Oklahoma City.

Speaker 8 (55:47):
Social media trends, they can be annoying to some, they
can also be fun to take part in. And I
know that people probably fit into both of those categories.
But are you aware of the good Night Challenge right now?

Speaker 7 (55:59):
I believe so.

Speaker 8 (56:00):
So if for those of you that don't know, it's
mostly for dudes to do this, because let's be honest here,
most of us. I think I've laid it out pretty
clearly before that I'm a text overcall guy. You're calling me,
I either think it's one of two things. Number one,
I don't want to get into a conversation with you,
or number two, something's wrong. Probably it should be number one,
something's wrong. But when I see that, and it's also

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there's certain people like I've mentioned this before.

Speaker 7 (56:24):
Well, I'm a caller, so let's go. I want to
hear this.

Speaker 8 (56:26):
But it's also where I've got a friend of mine
who you text them and they call and I'm just
like and it's always the most mind numbing conversation because
they're in the middle of something or they're bored or
whatever it is. Like for the second part, it's twenty
twenty five people like you. This right here, I'm holding

(56:49):
up my phone in my left hand is a computer.
It's got YouTube, it's got every other thing on it
that can take up your time. If you're bored, maybe
I want to hear the sound of your voice.

Speaker 7 (56:59):
Stand Matt, that's weird, But I mean Trevaline doesn't find
it weird. Maybe I want to talk to.

Speaker 8 (57:04):
Him he finds it weird. Of course he finds it weird.
Dudes find that weird. But I mean it's it's also
to you set the ground You set the ground rules
for Hey, can I call you?

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Hey?

Speaker 8 (57:15):
I got something. I could text it to you, but
it's going to take too long. You got a couple
of minutes. Let me just call you. Fine, Okay, do that.
But on this challenge, it's supposed to be. I think
you're supposed to FaceTime. You're supposed to FaceTime and do it.
It's kind of like, remember it was a couple of
years ago you FaceTime someone, Hey, I gotta call you back.

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You know, something just came up, and the person would
of course be confused of like you called me, like
you know what. So Garrett Nussmeyer, the quarterback at LSU,
he took part in it, posted it up on social
media where he called one of his receivers, Zave Flowers,
and I don't know his other teammate that he called,
but he did the good night challenge with his teammates

(57:57):
and it went exactly the way that you would expect
it would go with dudes.

Speaker 7 (58:00):
I'll tell you good night.

Speaker 17 (58:05):
He was called good night.

Speaker 18 (58:08):
Yeah, he was calling in the tenny good night.

Speaker 12 (58:14):
I want you to think about what you just said.

Speaker 13 (58:17):
Look at you, brother.

Speaker 7 (58:20):
And tell you good night. Bro, love you?

Speaker 4 (58:26):
Hello what.

Speaker 10 (58:29):
You I mean?

Speaker 7 (58:31):
I love you too, but I mean good night.

Speaker 10 (58:36):
I love you.

Speaker 8 (58:38):
So that is exactly the way that you know it
would go, because I mean, you know, let's be honest here,
we're not necessarily outwardly emotional as dudes. Like it doesn't
it always crack you up, for example. So yeah, well,
like you know, for example, I'll just go ahead share
a conversation now with somebody here.

Speaker 12 (58:57):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (58:58):
One of our coworkers' wives asked him, hey, Winter, Dan
and Megan getting married, and he's like, I don't know,
we don't really talk about it. And I've run into
this so many times. I'm sure you've run into it too,
with curious Day, where it's you know, well, do you.

Speaker 7 (59:10):
Guys not talk about that?

Speaker 8 (59:11):
It's like, no, we don't, Like you know, it's we
all know that you you've gotten married. And for dudes
that have gotten married have told me this that it's
not your day first and foremost, that you're just you're there,
show up and sit down and shut up and take
the pictures, do all that kind of stuff. Yeah, but
like there's not a ton of like explaining the details.

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Like I remember a radio show I used to work on.
We used to do a thing called man card Court,
and I got taken the man card court once because
I told people it was my birthday. I was young,
didn't really you know, understand like what the ground rules
are for that. But like the whole point that they
brought up was a grown man does not tell another
grown man that it's his birthday. And in the age
of Facebook and any other social media, that will let

(59:54):
you know that it's someone's birthday.

Speaker 7 (59:55):
Hell, your iPhone.

Speaker 8 (59:56):
Now if you have an iPhone, which that was a
great segment, you guys did one hundred percent agree because
I am in a text conversation of somebody that has
something that's not an iPhone. Oh, it's the worst and
it throws everything off. At least now the links two
things do show up as a preview, where it used
to not like if I shared something from Twitter or
Instagram or whatever it was with the group, then it
would just show up as a link, and of course

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it's like a okay, great, now I have to open this,
as opposed to if you see the preview, you have
a good idea of what you're getting into.

Speaker 9 (01:00:24):
Well, So it was crazy is is that if they
sent the preview, they would privately send it to you,
but it'd be in the group chat. So you'd get
two text messages where you get one from them individually
and then one from them in the actual groups that
you can't click of.

Speaker 8 (01:00:37):
The worst of the worst was a buddy of ours
used to send videos like from his phone that he
shot himself, oh, Gollway, and they'd be pixelated because of it, Gallway.

Speaker 9 (01:00:48):
So I mean it's it's not only that, but twenty
twenty five. Get with the times, people. An iPhone is fine.

Speaker 8 (01:00:57):
And there was a second one too that I was
gonna think of as maybe as we continue to talk, well,
I'll I'll have it come to my mind here. But okay,
oh no, no, no, I remember what it was. We
have a mutual friend who likes to send voice memos
and he does and I finally told him, I said,
all right, more often than not when you send these,
I'm in a place where A I'm nervous to play

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it out loud because I don't know what you'll be saying,
or B it's like a minute and a half long,
and brother, I ain't sitting through that unless you called me.

Speaker 7 (01:01:26):
Now, I'm gonna sit there the minute and a half.

Speaker 9 (01:01:28):
I'm gonna listen to it in my car privately because
if I know the vitriol that's going to be spewing out.

Speaker 8 (01:01:33):
See, and it's it's like another buddy of mine. We
have a pretty crude friend. And whenever he would call
him he would always be in the car. Yeah, and
whenever he would answer the call, he wouldn't say hello,
he would just go kids, because I mean he would
immediately like, just come out of the gate firing.

Speaker 7 (01:01:50):
My brother's going to know.

Speaker 9 (01:01:51):
My brother's using that excuse right now with his seventh
month white pregnant wife.

Speaker 7 (01:01:55):
Hey, can't do it. Got yourself with the kids, and
it is.

Speaker 9 (01:01:59):
It is the the easiest get out of jail free card.
One of my buddies used to want to go drinking
every single day until two in.

Speaker 7 (01:02:06):
The morning, has a daughter.

Speaker 9 (01:02:08):
Now whenever I'm in the city and I'm like, hey,
you want to go to Canyon, Hey, you want to
go to cedar ah man can't kid sitting at home
literally doing the exact same thing. It's the get out
of jail free card of all I get out of jail.

Speaker 7 (01:02:21):
Fred No.

Speaker 8 (01:02:22):
And I'm glad you brought that up because that same
friend that I told you that would answer kids. Yeah,
he brought up once that two of the greatest advantages
of having kids is wanted to get out jail free card,
as you mentioned.

Speaker 7 (01:02:32):
The other one is it's funny to fart on them.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Oh uh.

Speaker 9 (01:02:36):
I literally cannot wait to become an uncle, just to
go ahead and have all the funny memories of her
that she's never gonna have. I like I've told my brother,
the only thing I want to do is take her
through a car wash when she's asleep, wake her up
in the middle.

Speaker 7 (01:02:49):
Of the car wash.

Speaker 8 (01:02:49):
I've got knucklehead buddies now that I'm sure are probably
going to try to pull this off on me. And
it's fine because I'm going to see it coming from
a mile away. I'm just telling you right now because
I told you that more often than not, I hate
to tell you I screen your calls. So if I
see that you're calling or you're face timing when I
know that there's not a reason for you to do
either of those things, then I'm then I know what

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you're going to try to.

Speaker 9 (01:03:11):
Is this a certain timeline that you look at like,
is it like nine thirty at night? Why is he
face on me? I know what's about to do?

Speaker 8 (01:03:15):
Kind of feel I just I am a serial call
misser and text misser. Like there's so many times where
it'll be like it'll be like, hey, you know, did
you get that text? No it didn't, you never even
said it like last night, for example, Megan, We've got
a you know, family group chat with extended family and
immediate family, and one of it was video of her

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nephew taking steps and she was like, oh, so cute.

Speaker 7 (01:03:40):
Did you see it?

Speaker 8 (01:03:41):
I said no, like I didn't even get it, And
then of course, like I looked it up in bed,
I was like, God, when did I miss this?

Speaker 18 (01:03:47):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:03:47):
It happens to me all the time.

Speaker 9 (01:03:48):
So well, like my brain's working at seventeen thousand miles
a minute to where you're like, oh.

Speaker 7 (01:03:53):
Yeah, you did send that.

Speaker 8 (01:03:54):
Let's be honest here, if I'm not here, I'm usually asleep,
So I mean, that's that's if I miss to you.
Sometimes it is an intentional omission, but sometimes it's also
just I'm not mentally and physically there at the moment.

Speaker 9 (01:04:07):
Back to the good Night challenge, if you send me
one in the great words Matt Thomas, It's fine, that's fine.

Speaker 7 (01:04:13):
That is that is fine.

Speaker 8 (01:04:15):
That is that is such the Matt Thomas answer. Like
he's eating tacos the other day in the green room
and I, you know, walked in.

Speaker 7 (01:04:20):
I was like, man, those look good. Now they're fine.
Triple He's gonna FaceTime me tonight. It's fine.

Speaker 8 (01:04:25):
No, I think you're safe there. You're you're marked safe
from Triple E. It's it's other people in this buildings
that you're gonna have.

Speaker 7 (01:04:34):
I think I know what you're talking about. I think
I know. Oh, I got it, I got it. We're
gonna break him. Well, I mean you could.

Speaker 8 (01:04:41):
But the problem is he's probably listening, is the problem,
because this guy is always listening.

Speaker 7 (01:04:47):
Yeah, so I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 8 (01:04:49):
I want to It might have to be an off
air and maybe it's recorded and we play it back
later to have the effect of it.

Speaker 7 (01:04:55):
Okay, but yeah, I think you know where I'm going
with this. But any anyway, we can.

Speaker 8 (01:05:00):
Get back into the Astros conversation seven one three, two
one two five seven ninety. Let's break away though a
little bit of Texans conversation. If former pro quarterback tells
Texans fans relax, man, it's all good. We'll talk about it.
Let you hear from them right here. It is Sean
Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety. I had to live
The Sean Salisbury Show continued. I do appreciate that you

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rolled through at about nine o'clock last night, like that.

Speaker 7 (01:05:28):
That's perfect. That's good.

Speaker 8 (01:05:30):
We can work with that. It's the midnights, it's the
two ams because then the dogs start freaking out and
they start jumping on me or on Megan or either
of us, and then you know, we're awake. We're having
to try to calm them down.

Speaker 7 (01:05:43):
All of that.

Speaker 8 (01:05:43):
So you know, for morning radio, the overnight thunderstorms, they're
not fun anymore.

Speaker 7 (01:05:47):
See I love the overnight thunderstorms.

Speaker 8 (01:05:49):
Well because you're in the afternoons mostly, so it works
for you.

Speaker 7 (01:05:52):
I loved it when I was driving in doing overnight
so it was fun.

Speaker 9 (01:05:55):
It was fun at eleven o'clock knowing, oh, that lightning
strike is coming on. Through the sound of rain though
and the sound of thunder, it's like it's like a
white noise for me.

Speaker 7 (01:06:02):
It is, yeah, I mean it.

Speaker 8 (01:06:04):
It is one of those like I saw the meme
once that had the Vince McMahon of you know, the
blanket is.

Speaker 7 (01:06:10):
Good, all of that.

Speaker 8 (01:06:11):
You hear a roll of thunder, it makes it even better,
and then you know the rain starts and it's just like, oh, yeah,
this is gonna be eleaite. Like I mean, it did
have that yesterday with some of the rain that came through.
So it's it's hard to complain too often, but yes,
Mother Nature, thank you very much.

Speaker 7 (01:06:25):
I always laugh.

Speaker 9 (01:06:25):
I always laughed at like, okay, so you're like Woodlands area,
I'm Cypersaria. I got no rain last night, Like there
was not a single drop. But yet my dad comes over.
We're watching the end of the third period of game
one of the of the Stanley Cup playoffs, and my
mom calls and she's like.

Speaker 7 (01:06:40):
You gotta get home soon. It's gonna be thundering your way.
It's pouring down by us.

Speaker 9 (01:06:45):
And then the second that he leaves, nothing, wake up
at two one am to let the talks out.

Speaker 7 (01:06:50):
Nothing, wake up before to go get ready for it. Nothing.
How does that happen?

Speaker 10 (01:06:55):
No?

Speaker 8 (01:06:55):
I mean I've said it numerous times that thunderstorms are
to us like what earthquakes are to Californians, like you know,
two point three.

Speaker 7 (01:07:02):
Yeah whatever, Yeah, I'm still doing the job.

Speaker 8 (01:07:04):
I mean it's like, you know, hey, you know, a
thunderstorm is gonna come through, It'll be fine. Like I mean,
that's that's seriously the way that we look at it.
But but I mean that's it. You know, I saw
and uh, you know Megan was coming home late from
work and she's up near Lake Conro and she was like, Hey,
you know, got a bad thunderstorm coming.

Speaker 7 (01:07:21):
You know, just be prepared.

Speaker 8 (01:07:22):
And of course for me, it's not you know, worrying
about anything that's going to happen at the house, it was, Oh, man,
the dogs are gonna start freaking out, they lose their mind.

Speaker 7 (01:07:29):
Yeah, no, what do you like better?

Speaker 9 (01:07:31):
The long storms are the ones that are just like
two minutes long storms. I hate, Yeah, I say, the
two minute ones. That's where I'm gonna argue with Mother Nature.
Pick pick a season for about five for about an hour, Like,
if I'm driving, don't let me go from Sun to
Holy crap, if I even move an inch, I'm going
to crash into this eighteen wheeler back to Sun. Like,

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just give me like a baseline when I'm driving into
work in the mornings.

Speaker 8 (01:07:56):
All right, we'll start this year and we'll carry it over.
Of course, so we know that is happening over there
at the NRG Park and we have not seen at CJ.
Stroud throwing we were told the other day as Tamiko
Ryan's even almost getting annoyed with you guys out there
asking the questions general soreness, and then hey, that's enough
questions about CJ. Which I got something on that here

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in just a second, but supporting for duty, that's it.
Chris Simms part of Pro Football Talk. They were talking
about c J Stroud yesterday and he's got a take
on what's happening with CJ at the moment with the
quote general soreness end quote.

Speaker 7 (01:08:32):
First off, let me just say this.

Speaker 18 (01:08:34):
I think if he got shoulder surgery or anything like that,
we would have heard it. So I have a hard
time thinking that's the deal here. This has all the
signs to me, Mike of ten to nightis general soreness.
This to me has all the signs of I got back,
we got back training, I started throwing. Maybe I threw
a little too much at first, and now the inside

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of my elbow hurts.

Speaker 6 (01:08:57):
Right.

Speaker 18 (01:08:57):
How golfers get it at times, right, tennis player stuff
like that because of that hinging and all of this
as a thrower, and if you're not in shape for that,
or don't approach it the right way when you get
back into it after a long period of time, that's
when that can flare up. And this to me has
all the signs of that type of thing.

Speaker 8 (01:09:16):
All right, So I agree with him about the shoulder
surgery thing, because yes, I mean, it would have been
Aaron Wilson, it would have been you, it would have
been Jonathan and Alexander uh DJB enemy whoever it is
that covers the team, they would have gotten that, or
at least Schefter or Rapaport, somebody would have had that
out there. It's not like they could just send him
in for an operation and then you know, he comes

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back out and it's like, you know, oh, hey, you
know everything all right, so you'd like, yeah, yeah, no, no, no,
everything's fun. He did he didn't have an operation, what
are you talking about?

Speaker 7 (01:09:43):
And then Diana would break it five minutes later. Well,
I mean, come on, man, that is great. Throw the
show off the rails. Damn Matthews. It's hey, it's all good,
it's all good. Look.

Speaker 8 (01:09:56):
But you know, when it comes to this, I I
do agree that the only question I have, and as
I said, we can carry this over, is how does
this happen?

Speaker 10 (01:10:06):
Then?

Speaker 8 (01:10:06):
Like like like you go through the off season workouts,
you go through all those things.

Speaker 7 (01:10:10):
I get it.

Speaker 8 (01:10:11):
And he's been doing this long enough to also be
able to try to avoid these things like that's where
and then you know the dimico thing of hey, we've
we've answered enough questions about him. It starts to make
me wonder if you're trying to hide something. So it's
like something obviously happened, and that's what's not being you know,
reported right now, and we just don't have any idea

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And until he's out there on the field, then we
have to be concerned.

Speaker 9 (01:10:38):
I'm gonna hypothetically hold your hand, not actually do it,
but I'm gonna do it and rip off the bandit quietly.

Speaker 7 (01:10:43):
It's June, and we need storylines. That's all this is.

Speaker 9 (01:10:49):
And then we get a bigger deal out of it,
like the fact that we were watching ESPN nationally going
through multiple segments c J Stroud at OTAs where no
one is allowed to touch anybody, no pads are involved,
nobody is really doing anything other than just making a
couple of highlight grabs.

Speaker 7 (01:11:08):
Isn't throwing?

Speaker 9 (01:11:09):
Should the Texans be concerned going into twenty twenty five
because of it's June, Like we're still having the conversation
every other day on hey, is Aaron Rodgers actually interested
in going to Pittsburgh. Hey, Kyle Pitts, you know, maybe
he should be added back into an Arthur Smith led offense.
Like none of this is actually gonna happen anytime soon,

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but because there we're such a content mill based theme,
everyone's got to talk about it. And then when you
give him mouse a cookie, it's gonna lead to him
wanting a glass of milk, and then him wanting to
go ahead and move into your house for seven months,
and then him not putting his name on the lease
in the mortgage and he's in freeloading off for you,
and then everybody is starting to talk about the mouse
that's living in your apartment.

Speaker 7 (01:11:49):
I know I'm going off for else of this.

Speaker 8 (01:11:50):
One, but beside that sets a hell of a you know,
an example that you're rolled out there, but yeah, please
do you go ahead.

Speaker 9 (01:11:55):
I'm just saying, it's like, we don't need to have
Schefter and Rappaport in NFL network and McAfee and then
barstool and then every other country, every other market in
the country asking.

Speaker 7 (01:12:05):
Hey, is CJ. Stroud not throwing Is this a concern
for the Texans? Like it's June third.

Speaker 9 (01:12:12):
I get it, Like like Sims has some of the
dumbest takes I've ever heard of my entire life, and
the top forty quarterbacks one is just my boggling.

Speaker 7 (01:12:19):
But he's one hundred percent correct. It's a nothing burger.

Speaker 9 (01:12:22):
No one has to be concerned up until I think
day want a training camp.

Speaker 8 (01:12:25):
All right, we can carry this over because I do
wonder if there is a storyline that's not being talked
about just yet when it involves CJ.

Speaker 7 (01:12:31):
Shroud.

Speaker 8 (01:12:32):
We'll do that here as we close out the second
hour of the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
Let the celebration start or Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 8 (01:12:48):
Permission before we get back into the Texans conversation, to
riff just a little bit about something food wise. Sure,
you know, I think I've shared before. A buddy of
mine brought this up to me a couple of years
ago about bait and switch food items. A new wing
place opens, it's bait and switch because as soon as
it opens, the wings are gonna be massive, they're gonna
be great, they're gonna be all of those things. Not

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saying that it's not going to be great afterwards, but
he says that's how they hook you is you know,
you go there the first time, you see how huge
the wings are and you're like, oh, man, dude, this
is what this place offers. Hell yeah, I'm gonna come
here next time. Significantly smaller pizza places notorious for this.
A pizza place opens, your pie is gonna be loaded
with toppings.

Speaker 7 (01:13:29):
It's just gonna be massive.

Speaker 8 (01:13:30):
Like you know, it's gonna be one of those man,
every square inch of this thing is cheese and pepperoni
and sausage, whatever it is on your pizza that you love.
The next time you go there, you notice it's significantly less.

Speaker 7 (01:13:42):
I'm gonna push back. I've never noticed that with pizza places.

Speaker 8 (01:13:44):
Just keep that in mind next time you go for
the first time if it's a new place. But for
packaged food items, the biggest bait and switch out there
beef jerky.

Speaker 7 (01:13:54):
What do you mean it's expensive?

Speaker 8 (01:13:55):
Yes, And if you eat a couple of decent sized
pieces and it, you're basically done with the entire bagh.
Because you're saying that it's all broken up in a
small tipp It's not only that it's broken up in
the small tidbits.

Speaker 7 (01:14:05):
There's just not enough.

Speaker 8 (01:14:06):
Like you get it and like, as I just mentioned,
like you eat a couple of decent pieces of it
and you're like, that's it.

Speaker 7 (01:14:12):
That's that's pretty much all.

Speaker 9 (01:14:13):
And I just spent about ten dollars on this bag
when I thought that I was gonna get a decent
enough snack out of this. See, I'll push back because
I don't know how a big beef jerkey dude. But
what I am is I'm a huge chip guy. Like
I love my potato chip. Chips are the all time
value in some I Okay, I'm sorry, but I'm gonna
pick a bone with Freedo Light, I mean with that
with with a die O Day here, because I'm not

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gonna give them the actual Yeah, I'm gonna pull the
Matt Thomas here. Why is half of the bag air?
Literally and then you throw them all in the bottom
and they get crunched up to where you're having to
make a mess with your hands.

Speaker 7 (01:14:46):
Afterwards, you have to clean your car afterwards.

Speaker 9 (01:14:48):
I hate the way that die O Day does their
chips because literally.

Speaker 7 (01:14:52):
I'm excited because it feels so full.

Speaker 9 (01:14:54):
Open the bag, just half of my expectations out as
soon as you go ahead and pulled out for you.

Speaker 8 (01:14:58):
Know they say like a dog never gets like or
they do, but they just don't know that they get full.

Speaker 7 (01:15:04):
Sure, that's that's me with flaming out Cheetos.

Speaker 8 (01:15:06):
Well you never get full. No, it's not that I
don't get full, trust me, I do. I just can't
stop eating them.

Speaker 7 (01:15:11):
Oh that's fine.

Speaker 9 (01:15:12):
But like I'm looking at it and like I have
to buy three bags just to be getting getting the
foodage I want in the one because you open it
up and then it's literally half air.

Speaker 8 (01:15:20):
No, so so good on those chips. Chips are the
all time value of the packaged foods. Like you, there
is no bait and switch. You're going to get them
like Wraps brand, you know, the the ones from Louisiana.

Speaker 7 (01:15:33):
Let's go oh, Zutz brand is what you said? Maybe?
I say, yeah, possibly, I said you didn't. What was it?

Speaker 9 (01:15:38):
Golden flake is the one that I always get pissed
off at. I like them too, but like golden flakes,
but they're not but they're not here. I guess that's
a that's an Alabama Southeast.

Speaker 7 (01:15:46):
It's a very southeastern.

Speaker 9 (01:15:47):
Yeah, Like whenever I go through Louisiana'll pickle chips, best
chips dude, dude. Literally, when we were in New Orleans
last year for the Super Bowl, stopped off at Rawls,
got like fifteen backs because and Kirsten is like screaming
to me, It's like, why are there fifteen bags of
deal pickle potato chips?

Speaker 7 (01:16:04):
It's not here. I only can get it when I
go to this location.

Speaker 10 (01:16:09):
Now.

Speaker 8 (01:16:09):
It was like a certain brand of tortilla chips that
I couldn't get and when I was living in Georgia,
so I would have them either shipped over or I
would take them back with me along with salsa, which
one time I did not wrap the salsa properly in
my bag.

Speaker 7 (01:16:22):
You know, it got to know the plane pressure.

Speaker 9 (01:16:23):
See, I don't mind saying Golden Flake because of they're
not going to be a sponsor here because they're not
in Texas.

Speaker 7 (01:16:28):
So, by the way, can we move them to Texas?
It would be nice. Yeah, I'd take it.

Speaker 9 (01:16:32):
Can we If we want to be considered part of
the South, we need Golden Flake full time. I'm sorry,
That's that's where I push back, like everybody out Texas
is the South.

Speaker 8 (01:16:41):
I'm like, no, it's not, no, it's not trust me.
I've I've lived in the South. You've lived in the South.
You know that Texas is its own thing. I like
the individual status. That's that's what I like about being here,
because you're not Southwest. You're not in the South deep South,
like you're your own thing. Texas is Texas.

Speaker 7 (01:16:56):
Okay, give me.

Speaker 8 (01:16:56):
The south starts east of Baytown. That's that's where the
South starts.

Speaker 9 (01:17:00):
Wait has it then for you again, Tallahassee.

Speaker 12 (01:17:03):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:17:03):
I would say that it ends both north and south.
I would say that it ends probably once you get
to Kentucky about middle of Kentucky, like you know, Cincinnati,
it's it's the midwest, and then in the south it's
south of probably Gainesville. Okay, so I had said I

(01:17:24):
had said it ten the other day. Probably once you
get south of Gainesville, then you're in Florida.

Speaker 9 (01:17:29):
So do you think that okay, So do you think
that Virginia is like its own little thing or.

Speaker 7 (01:17:33):
Is that southern?

Speaker 8 (01:17:35):
Interesting argument that I have with people, because I mean,
you know, Marty Smith, for example, he's from Virginia, and
people know that about him and they're like, wait a minute,
this guy's playing a character then, but no, that's that's
apple Acchian that's that's what that is is, that's that's
that's the southern as it gets.

Speaker 9 (01:17:49):
I think for me, when it gets to southern, going northern,
when you get to Charlotte, everything other is like Appleatchian
Coast style. Everything below, everything below the Charlotte line to
me is South.

Speaker 8 (01:17:58):
There's even some people that would argue that some parts
of Maryland could be considered part of it.

Speaker 7 (01:18:03):
But I'm like, yeah, I don't know about that.

Speaker 8 (01:18:05):
Stop But anyway, real quick here with the Texans, just
to wrap what we were talking about. I think also
a lot of this too is Demiko Ryans and the
organization trying to tamp down on some of the expectations
from last year.

Speaker 9 (01:18:20):
Maybe I maybe, But also it doesn't help when people
are taking clips of a guy that is probably going
to be a practice squad player winning against a special
teams defensive back on a forty five yard touchdown pass.

Speaker 7 (01:18:34):
It doesn't help. That's why.

Speaker 8 (01:18:35):
That's why it's the number one rule that I've had,
especially with OTAs in mini camp. We're not going to
do deep dives in the OTAs in mini camp. It's pointless.
More than half of these guys will not be here
when it's all said and done. You dressed fIF forty
four on game day, So those are the forty four
guys that matter. Everybody else, I mean, you've got a part,
but the overall grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 9 (01:18:56):
It's like turning to the point of where recruiting happens
for me, Like I used to be huge under recruiting.
Stay home on early I mean on National signing Day,
be fully invested.

Speaker 7 (01:19:04):
Now when you get on campus, I'll pay attention to you.

Speaker 9 (01:19:06):
It's the same thing, like like the undrafted free agent
that may or may not have a highlight play.

Speaker 7 (01:19:10):
When you make the act of fifty three, then we
can start having a conversation Britce Brush.

Speaker 8 (01:19:14):
But I mean, it's it's just it's not a belief
that we're not going to see CJ. Shroud Like that's
that's never crept into my mind. We've known that eventually
it is going to happen. But I mean it is
also too of he's not in danger of looking like
he's regressed out there. But it's also too where it's oh,
you're feeling this, okay, Hey, don't worry about It's all good.

Speaker 7 (01:19:34):
It's June.

Speaker 8 (01:19:35):
We're not going to win the Super Bowl because of
what we didn't do in June.

Speaker 9 (01:19:38):
If he ended up having say like a sixty five
percent completion rating in over four thousand passing ours, is
this even a conversation.

Speaker 8 (01:19:44):
Because there's so many other things that you look at
with this team that you know is still not being
answered right now, and I just think that that's what
also plays a part in this.

Speaker 9 (01:19:52):
Right But a little bit of that quote unquote, which
was a ridiculous sophomore slump and now not throwing at
OTA's It's going to lead to more conversation and better
more headlines that are going to get people talking.

Speaker 7 (01:20:03):
That's what we're dealing with.

Speaker 8 (01:20:04):
Let's get back into the Astros conversation because an answer
was given last night that I don't know if I
fully believe it. We'll talk about it here as we
start our number three Shawn Salisbury Show here on a
Thursday of Sports Talk seven ninety.

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winners in overtime against the Panthers in Game one of
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ninety is the number to get in and Cole, this
is something that I threw out last night. After we
get another start out of Ryan Gusto, four and a third,
eighty three pitches out of him, he gives up the
three runs, he takes the loss, walks a couple hits,

(01:21:42):
a guy strikes out three, gives.

Speaker 7 (01:21:44):
Up eight hits.

Speaker 8 (01:21:45):
And I understand where you are injury wise right now
with this team. I mean, you don't have Spencer Araghetti.
You're not going to get Renel Blanco back. It's more
than likely you're not going to get any sort of
contributions at the three of Christian Javier Luis Garcia J France.
If there was one that you could possibly bet on
out of those three, it would be Garcia. But I

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think we're probably looking at Garcia as being kind of
the mold of what Gusto is right now, kind of
a halfer in between the bullpen and the starting rotation.
I think they're trying to build up Gusto as much
as possible, But even with all that being said, his
seasoning needs to be in Triple A right now. It
does not need to be at the major league level.

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And I understand that you're short on arms to a
certain point, but when you got a guy like Brandon
Walter who came up here, it gave you the start
that he did and could give you basically the same contributions.
Sure be able to get into the fifth, probably not
going to be able to much get into the sixth,
but at least from what I saw in that first
start and how he's pitched in Triple A, I can

(01:22:48):
count on that guy right now much more than I
can count on Ryan Gusto.

Speaker 9 (01:22:51):
Let me ask you, would you leave Gusto up here
if you knew that he was a full time bullpen guy.

Speaker 8 (01:22:57):
Yeah, bullpen, absolutely that because he was throwing strikes. He
wasn't walking guys, he was getting outs, like, yeah, absolutely,
But it's just it.

Speaker 7 (01:23:06):
That's where you know.

Speaker 8 (01:23:07):
I also threw the caveat on that tweet last night
was Okay, how do you view him long term? Clearly
they view him as a starter long term. Otherwise he's
not still here. Because if that's the case, then TRIPLEA
needs to be his place right now if you want
him to be a guy that is almost if you
going a pseudo bullpen game right here, which we'll hear
from Joe Espota talk about it here in just a second,

(01:23:30):
then okay, yeah, fine, he's got a place up here
at this moment. I just know that they don't view
him that way. And if you don't view him that way,
then don't have him up here right now.

Speaker 7 (01:23:38):
Well, what was it.

Speaker 9 (01:23:39):
Two years ago when Spencer ragedy and you saw JP
Franz come on up and these were guys in the
minors that you didn't know what to expect from them,
but you got kind of lucky and they actually started
finding their rhythm. I don't think that's this group right now,
the aj Blue Blas, the Ryan Gusto's, you can even
throw in Miguel, You'll.

Speaker 7 (01:23:59):
Like all of them.

Speaker 9 (01:24:00):
They're guys who they're going to have to start at
Triple A because of you need to have a rotation.

Speaker 7 (01:24:07):
But when they get to the next level, they're not.

Speaker 9 (01:24:10):
Viewed as five inning, six inning guys. They're viewed as
two inning guys. Get me a couple of strikeouts, get
runners off at the scoring position. And I think that
that's where Gusto is Like the Aarraghetti's of the world.
You want him back because if you want Gusto to
give you two innings, not five, you wanted me to
go out and add in a trade. And last night,
and I was jumpring this up with you. Last night
kind of solidified to me that if the Astros are

(01:24:32):
still in contention, they're still in first place and they're
trying to run away with the division, by all means,
go trade for a number four starter or a number
five starter, so Gusto gets out of that role. When
you get back to healthy Arragedtty. It's not at that
level that we saw a few years ago, where hey,
we're gonna get these minor leaguers to be our number
five due they're going to give us four or five

(01:24:53):
quality innings. We have a deep enough bullpen, Gusto, Blue Bob,
you can throw in really any name. At this point,
I want them out there for two innings maas well.

Speaker 8 (01:25:03):
Joe Spotta asked about it in the post game last night.
You'll hear these questions being asked, Matt Kawahara and Chandler
Rome hitting him up with some questions of our doubts
starting to creep in when it comes to you putting
Ryan Gusto on the mound for a start.

Speaker 6 (01:25:17):
Fifth starting WRO that he hasn't been able to finish
the fifth is what I guess.

Speaker 7 (01:25:22):
What is the key for him to just get deeper
into games? And are you are you guys at a
point where you need to kind of.

Speaker 17 (01:25:27):
Keep him in their rotation?

Speaker 16 (01:25:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:25:28):
Yeah, yeah, And you know, and I believe in him.
I think he can do it. I think it's just
a matter of patience and to work with him. And
I think he understanding he's trying to do it sometimes
just not as easy as as we think it is.

Speaker 8 (01:25:43):
This maybe put the car before the horse, but is
this a situation where you think an opener would be
beneficial or just have something to maybe change it up
to get you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
A little deeper.

Speaker 7 (01:25:52):
No, I don't think. I don't think we're there yet.

Speaker 13 (01:25:54):
I really truly believe that these guys can can can
get it done.

Speaker 7 (01:25:58):
We see him doing the past, you know, if we
go by openers.

Speaker 13 (01:26:01):
Now, we've put us kind of in a tough spot
in those middle innings, and I think those guys have
settled down nicely in the middle innings, and I like
how I'm able to deploy those guys.

Speaker 7 (01:26:09):
So I don't think we quite We're not there yet.

Speaker 8 (01:26:12):
And I mean Joe spot is the ultimate build him
up type of guy. He's not ever going to beat
somebody down. You know that you lose the guy completely
last night after that game. If you say, yeah, you know,
we've got to have some conversations, then it's all right.
Now those doubts start to creep in, So I get
what he's doing there. It is also to a point
where as Chandler has asked before, I think it was

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Gusto's last start that he had against the Mariners, where
same deal, it was four and a third, and you
can't get out of the fifth inning, and you're having
to put more on Steven Okert, on Bennett's SUSA, on
Sean Dubin, the guys that are in the middle of
your bullpen and trying to count on those guys and
are go losing them the following day. I get all

(01:26:54):
of that, but it is also too where giving yourself
a chance to win a game. Sure, look, I'm not
taking it off the lineup. You lose a game three
to nothing last night, that's on the lineup. That's not
on the pitching. Pitching for the most part, did their job.
He had a couple of bad innings and the walks
were an issue there at the beginning. All of that,
that's fine, but it is also too where you're getting

(01:27:16):
to a point you can't give games away. You're going
to lose games that you're supposed to win. I get
all of that. It's major League Baseball. But it's just
any confidence that you have in Ryan Gusto going out
there and being able to do the job right now,
I almost ask you what is the basis for it? Like,
where are you getting to where you think that he

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is going to be able to go out there and
give you a chance to pull off a w but.

Speaker 7 (01:27:39):
The flip side is and this will all counteract.

Speaker 9 (01:27:42):
You can't just trust that you're going to get elite
pitching from from Bervaldez and Hunter Brown every single day
to where you're not going.

Speaker 7 (01:27:50):
To utilize the bullpen. There will be games, and it
happens for every pitcher.

Speaker 9 (01:27:55):
Even the greatest pitcher currently in Major League Baseball is
going to have a bullpen day. He's gonna be out
by five innings, and you got to start turning to
the other guys.

Speaker 7 (01:28:03):
You can't just have the Ryan.

Speaker 9 (01:28:05):
Gusto game where he's gonna give you four and a
third and then say, well, everyone else is gonna pitch today,
So Hey, Fromber today, we need you to give us
at least eight because of we can't use x Y
and Z pitcher because they were out there for two
innings last night. That's where I'm at when it comes
to the Gusto conversation.

Speaker 7 (01:28:21):
I think he can give you two innings.

Speaker 9 (01:28:23):
I think he could be a really solid six inning
type of guy. Hey, Lance is having a decent day,
but we want to save his pitch count low. Let's
turn to Gusto. We know that he's gonna get the win.
He say us up for the sixth and seventh, we
go to the eighth or the bray you we got
to Hater with the ninth. We walk out of.

Speaker 7 (01:28:38):
Here with the dub.

Speaker 9 (01:28:39):
But the problem is is that right now you have
to believe that Fromber Good Fromber is gonna give you
at least seven if not eight. Hunter Brown is gonna
give you at least seven if not eight. And then
you have to believe that you can turn to some
rotation where Hater's gonna be available to where he can
get the save and maybe instead of going to Brian
and Brady, you go to Caleb or or you go

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to Steven Okurd and that's where the issue resides. There's
going to be a day where you need them to
go trust who is going to be on that mount
of the fifth.

Speaker 8 (01:29:07):
Well, it's also too I mean it gets back to
the lineup again where I think that that probably starts
to creep in a little bit. He doesn't want to
throw anybody under the bus, but you have to believe
that a huge part of why you're seeing some of
these less than aggressive approaches and trying to make the
perfect pitch for Gusso right now is because the lack
of run support that he gets.

Speaker 9 (01:29:26):
Sure, but also keep in mind we've had games where
Frommer's gotten no run support, where Hunter Brown's got no
run support. I mean, I'm not going to say that
the last of College because that was the bad game
against the Reds, but even still no run support.

Speaker 7 (01:29:39):
I mean there's multiple pitchers who have gone through the ringer.

Speaker 8 (01:29:42):
Well you started to, but I mean you were down
to nothing at the point at that point in the game.

Speaker 9 (01:29:45):
But yeah, but like there's multiple pitchers who haven't gotten
run sport.

Speaker 7 (01:29:49):
I mean, Paul Skans again, he.

Speaker 9 (01:29:51):
Give one bad pitch and he's out of the game
and he gets a loss.

Speaker 7 (01:29:54):
Of this match.

Speaker 5 (01:29:55):
See.

Speaker 8 (01:29:55):
And that's Aria Alexander, who, by the way, will be
in for Sewn tomorrow morning, APRC two. He had the
tweet that you just brought up right there that it
perfectly epitomizes, where you know, Monday you beat Paul Skens,
Tuesday you lose to Mike Burrows baseball exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:30:12):
Like, this is what the thing is with the Astros
and why you can't quit them as an actual al threat.
They're gonna beat Scooball, They're gonna beat Max Freed.

Speaker 7 (01:30:21):
Hey, nurser grotestis the mountain. You lose four nothing.

Speaker 8 (01:30:24):
That's the frustrating thing, the way that they've been against
teams under five hundred this season. But hopefully they can
end it on a high note. Tonight, Tony Brandon, see
you guys right there, Get you guys involved.

Speaker 7 (01:30:34):
You want to join them?

Speaker 8 (01:30:35):
Someone three two one two five seven ninety against someone
three two one two five seven ninety. You continue to
roll along here Sean Salisbury Show on a Thursday.

Speaker 7 (01:30:47):
Hello, haters from LA to New York.

Speaker 4 (01:30:49):
Parker up and kiss houer ass astros. Oh, by goodness,
this is Sports Talk seven ninety Home of your astros
still twenty seventeen, chaps doubt about it.

Speaker 7 (01:31:05):
Sean Salisbury Show continues right now down to angleton Tony.
Good morning, Tony, Good morning, gentlemen.

Speaker 17 (01:31:17):
Last night, the uh, the softball game, the the overturned
call on the steel horrendous man, horrendous you.

Speaker 7 (01:31:30):
I'm a longhorned fan, and.

Speaker 17 (01:31:31):
If it went the other way, I'd have been I'd
have been angry.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
Just as well.

Speaker 17 (01:31:34):
Sure protect because the ball trailed into the runner. The
girl made the tag that that's it's it's gut's got
to change, man, it's just at that is a baseball play.
There was no intent to injure, there was no intent
to to to obstruct the base. It's just that kind

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of stuff's got to change. And it's it's it's really frustrating.

Speaker 9 (01:32:01):
Before we move on real fast, it's gonna ask you
your thoughts on the steel by Texas Tech in the
fourth in the fourth inning.

Speaker 17 (01:32:07):
Yeah, yeah, what what what I think about? Yeah, I
think that I think it was a it.

Speaker 7 (01:32:12):
Was a blown call, man, absolutely, thank you. It's a call.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
It's a blown call.

Speaker 17 (01:32:17):
But the reason why is because the throw the fielder
has to be able to catch the ball and then
and the runner has to.

Speaker 7 (01:32:25):
Have access to the base. But if they both happened
at the.

Speaker 17 (01:32:28):
Same time, Hey, things happen, man, it's sports. And to
overturn that call and penalize that picture and that catcher
for holding that runner call and getting that runner out
at second base, it's horrendous.

Speaker 7 (01:32:40):
It's it's it's it's it's.

Speaker 17 (01:32:42):
One of the things that's that's destroying sports. Should have
been too nothing to win for Texas exactly now about
the Astros, this is an eighty to eighty seven win team.
I don't care how you slice it up. This is
not a ninety that this is not your old astros,
And I just hope that they don't, you know, start,

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we don't really have anything else to trade. We we
don't have a lot of assets left in our in
our system. I just say this year, just hold Pat.
You're gonna have to depend on young players. I've been
saying it all year. Some of them are coming through,
some of them aren't. But you're just it's you're just
gonna have. This is the new norm for for now,
until Dana Brown can restock the cupboards. I just hope

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they don't panic and and pull and pull the trigger
on the trade that sets us back even further. We
don't really have much to trade, to be honest with you, Uh,
we don't have that many assets. So uh, this is
an eighty to eighty seven win team. We won eighty
eight last year. We got Kokuchi to to to make
that happen. I don't want to see that happen again.
I say, just hold Pat. Let let let's start keep

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building and try to keep this thing going. I do
not want to see a big trade, because no big
trade is gonna This is not a championship club.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
That's that's all there is to it. It's not not yet.

Speaker 17 (01:33:57):
They there's there's some pieces they have to add.

Speaker 7 (01:34:00):
But I just hope they don't panic. I hope they
stay paid.

Speaker 17 (01:34:02):
If you know, if we if we make the playoffs,
we don't. If we if we'd make it, fine, I
just don't want to give away the form or what
we have left on the farm. Uh to get a
picture for for a couple of months, That's all I got.

Speaker 7 (01:34:16):
All right, I appreciate the call, Tony.

Speaker 8 (01:34:18):
I mean, I will agree that you start to get
concerned if the middle of the order doesn't start picking
it up. And then we talked about it, and we'll
continue to talk about it, because look, I mean, it's
a constant storyline with this team. Games like last night
have happened way too much this season. You can't continue
to have games where the three, four, five guys in your.

Speaker 7 (01:34:39):
Order basically give you nothing.

Speaker 8 (01:34:41):
And I'll even throw you Sarck Pretison there two through
five last night pretty much gave you nothing. You got
a couple of hits out of Jiner Diaz, All right, fine,
you got a couple of singles out of them.

Speaker 7 (01:34:50):
That's not enough. That's that's that's not going to get
it done again.

Speaker 8 (01:34:54):
I differentiated earlier, and I'll do it again June the fifth.
I'm not concerned about it. The fifth, I am a
little bit more concerned about it. Hell, I'll meet you
in the middle August the fifth. This continues, then you're
in a bad spot. I go July the fifth.

Speaker 9 (01:35:08):
We start getting a little concern because at this point,
the problem is that if the offense doesn't pick up,
if Walker, if Altuve, if Diz at parades, if you
get back a healthy yord On, they're all still struggling
to make contact to drive in runs. And that's the
middle of your lineup. That's the meat and potatoes of
your offense at this point. But you're still winning because
of great pitching. You're winning because of a great bullpen. Well,

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then what's the thought process among most fans and among
usually gms. Let's go add in somebody, let's go give
up somebody, let's go make that last push to get
us over the hump, to end this run and continue
our pathway to get the division time.

Speaker 8 (01:35:45):
The other thing that concerns me too, you know, to
Tony's point is, will the pitching have somewhat of a
drop off? Not named Hunter Brown in fromber Valdez, because
I also do worry a little bit if there is
a shelf life to the way that some of these
guys have thrown.

Speaker 9 (01:36:01):
I'd say the bullpen is what you got to be
concerned on because of again, it's it's like the Jake
Meyers effect. Are we going to continue to see Jake
hit two ninety two and get a couple of extra
base hits throughout the entirety of the year. Are we
going to continue to see Stephen Okerd have a one
twenty three eri? Are we going to continue to see
kyleb Bord have a pretty good time, have a pretty
good timing with runners and scoring position. Are we going

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to continue to see Brian King after that one hiccup
get back on the horse like like, that's where the
concern is. Some of this is sustainable, most.

Speaker 7 (01:36:30):
Of it isn't.

Speaker 8 (01:36:32):
Yeah, that's what worries you, And that's what worries you,
know you about putting this h you know, pitching staff
continuously on the tight rope that you have them on,
and I mean eventually you fall off.

Speaker 7 (01:36:42):
And that's that's what you know.

Speaker 8 (01:36:45):
I think brings this all back to the again middle
of the order, where Christian Walker you need more, Janar
Diaz you need more.

Speaker 7 (01:36:52):
Jose al Tuve.

Speaker 8 (01:36:53):
As much as I hate to say it, I have
said it numerous times and I will continue to feel
this way. I will never tell Jose al Tuova how
to approaching that bat because the guy is going to
be a three thousand hit guy in this league more
than likely. But he knows how to hit, he knows
how to be able to come through in those situations.

Speaker 7 (01:37:10):
That'll never come out of my mouth.

Speaker 8 (01:37:12):
You need just you need more, need more, more, need more,
and then I mean east sok peretis. It was nice
little stretch you went on. But this little stretch that
you've gone on where he went what what one for
twenty three over the weekend and oh for four last night?
Like it's it's got to pick up a little bit.
Certain guys have to be able to carry the mantle.
And it's been that group in the middle of the order,

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I mean Jordan or no jord On. It's been something
that's been a relative disappointment here for the first sixty
one games of the season.

Speaker 7 (01:37:40):
I disagree.

Speaker 8 (01:37:42):
Someone three, two, one, two, five, seven ninety then number
to get in.

Speaker 7 (01:37:45):
Brandon, Good morning.

Speaker 11 (01:37:46):
Brandon, Good morning, Dan, Good morning.

Speaker 7 (01:37:52):
Cole col what's that buddy?

Speaker 12 (01:37:54):
How are you good?

Speaker 7 (01:37:55):
How are you?

Speaker 10 (01:37:56):
I'm okay, Hey Dan, I'm pitching with.

Speaker 7 (01:38:01):
Today, all right, and it's going well so far.

Speaker 14 (01:38:04):
Yeah he's got one.

Speaker 7 (01:38:08):
Strikeout.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
Uh now he just got somebody out.

Speaker 7 (01:38:14):
Cool, all right, we'll good.

Speaker 9 (01:38:15):
Well, we want those, we want ground balls, we want
double plays, all of those things. I mean, last time
you did it, it worked out well, so hopefully we
get the same result again.

Speaker 7 (01:38:23):
Brandon.

Speaker 1 (01:38:24):
Yeah, I'm might dud to sing on on my game.

Speaker 7 (01:38:28):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
Man.

Speaker 8 (01:38:30):
Well last night was disappointing, but I mean, as we've
been talking about, the lineup needs to be better, and
they're a huge key to this team getting to where
they want to go this year.

Speaker 9 (01:38:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:38:42):
Anyway, do you know what happened?

Speaker 10 (01:38:44):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (01:38:44):
Yeah, hitting?

Speaker 8 (01:38:49):
What happened to they didn't? Yeah, they didn't hit last night. Yeah,
that was that was the problem. I mean, radio, Yeah,
you got struck out six times by a guy with
an eight point sixty four e R.

Speaker 9 (01:39:01):
Okay, so.

Speaker 7 (01:39:04):
Any news that yard on.

Speaker 8 (01:39:08):
Nothing yet, appreciate it. Brandon nothing yet. I mean, we
talked with Dana Brown yesterday. Baseball activities that are not
involving hitting right now shut down, which by the way, too,
I hope that I was able to, you know, live
up to Gary and Spring's expectations yesterday with my questioning
of Dana, because there is a balance when it comes

(01:39:29):
to that, and we can talk about it here as
as as the show goes along, but there is a
balance of yes, you want to get the answers, but
also to don't harangue the point like don't you know
completely you know, just go as far as to maybe,
you know, disrupt a relationship that is there. Because it
is good to have a relationship with the GM of
the team. There is a certain level of respect that

(01:39:50):
goes into that conversation. Yes, ask the questions, but ask
it respectfully and be able to get the results that
you want to get.

Speaker 9 (01:39:57):
Sure Gary in Spring, just again, remember you want to
have that trust factor also, you want to be able
to have a good relationship. I show respect to Dan,
Dan Show's respect to me, show respect to your media members.

Speaker 7 (01:40:07):
They'll probably talk.

Speaker 9 (01:40:08):
Positively about you. I'm saying not everybody, not everybody, but
most what are you gonna do?

Speaker 8 (01:40:13):
But anyway, we'll touch on that a little bit here,
as Dana Brown did join us yesterday.

Speaker 7 (01:40:18):
But also to.

Speaker 8 (01:40:19):
Speaking of media members, there was somebody who just does
not understand what this business truly is, and we'll discuss
that here. It is The Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk
seven ninety Man.

Speaker 7 (01:40:31):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues. Biscuit wants to weigh in here.

Speaker 12 (01:40:36):
Good morning, Biscuit, Hey top in the morning, my brother,
thanks man, Cole brother, Hey man, you know the money
my NBA tape. Man, that was a good match last night.
That hockey.

Speaker 9 (01:40:51):
Oh, I'm telling you, when you get a good hockey game,
there is nothing better than the Stanley Cup Finals. I
will die on that. I will die on that. Take
best championship in all sports.

Speaker 12 (01:41:05):
Well most competitive.

Speaker 7 (01:41:06):
Let's just put it that with Okay, I'll disagree, agree,
disagree on this one, but sure we'll go with that.

Speaker 12 (01:41:11):
Yeah and uh, and that's all we can hold for
a the NBA finals. Man, Let's just have some entertaining games.

Speaker 7 (01:41:17):
Man.

Speaker 12 (01:41:17):
Let's not have a bunch of blowouts like we did
last year.

Speaker 17 (01:41:20):
Man.

Speaker 12 (01:41:21):
Let's get some games where you know it's in the
last two minutes.

Speaker 15 (01:41:25):
It's it could go either way. You know.

Speaker 12 (01:41:27):
That's that's the only thing I hope for me. I'm
Indiana boy, and all my people back home. You know,
they they hype, but I just don't see it, man.

Speaker 7 (01:41:36):
I don't I did they got you? They cold?

Speaker 12 (01:41:40):
The only way Cole is Turner, Nate Smith. What's the
little point guard off the bench, the little little short.

Speaker 7 (01:41:48):
White guy McConnell, TJ McConnell.

Speaker 12 (01:41:51):
They got all hit some open threes, man, because that
that's what's gonna be there. They got hit some threes,
but they got to pay at the highest pace. And
I don't know how you down if you're playing at
a hot pace.

Speaker 9 (01:42:03):
I can explain the sea a biscuit. I can Who
is their head coach?

Speaker 12 (01:42:07):
They got a good coach.

Speaker 7 (01:42:09):
Do you know who it is?

Speaker 12 (01:42:11):
Oh? I can't think of Yaird?

Speaker 7 (01:42:17):
Where where do he coach? Where do he coach? Before this?
In Dallas? He was in Dallas? And what do we
know about Dallas?

Speaker 9 (01:42:25):
Anytime that we can watch them cry themselves to sleep,
we go ahead and we.

Speaker 7 (01:42:30):
Pull for them.

Speaker 9 (01:42:31):
Rick Carlisle on a championship caliber team when he was
running the show with Dirk as his four is going
to be able to take Miles Turner, Obie Topin, Tyreese,
Saliburton the good bench six games, and then Dallas could
be sitting there wondering we trade away Luca. Our hockey
team decide to disappoint, and now Edmonton's on his way
to winning its first Stanley Cup.

Speaker 7 (01:42:51):
We have no hope in football.

Speaker 9 (01:42:52):
We have no hope in anything else where a sad
soula city congratulates and get rid of the best thing.

Speaker 7 (01:42:58):
He's running another NBA title. That is why we pull
for them. Biscuit.

Speaker 12 (01:43:03):
Now he talked to a cowboy fan. Man, I'm not
gonna go with the anti Dallas tame man. I'll tell
you what though, Man, if Carlisle, maybe they can play
his own take Shay out the game, and like I say,
they got to hit open threes, you know, and they
you know, they match them depth wise. That's what they

(01:43:23):
never had problem where they'd had a depth. But I
just don't see it, man, Halliburton probably is not gonna
play well.

Speaker 15 (01:43:31):
I just don't see it.

Speaker 7 (01:43:32):
Halibert win the MVP, calling it right now, there we.

Speaker 12 (01:43:34):
Go, all right, Cole, I'm gonna check back in with
what you tinking in that coffee up there. Man, Hey, Dan,
take his coffee cup.

Speaker 18 (01:43:42):
Man.

Speaker 8 (01:43:43):
Yeah, I've wondered that a little bit because it's not
only on the air, it's also, uh, you know, in
between the breaks too, where you know, I'm like, I
feel like I bring the energy a lot of times.
But I mean, nobody shoots out of a cannon like
this guy.

Speaker 7 (01:43:55):
That's why they hired anybody.

Speaker 15 (01:43:58):
Well, I let you, my brothers.

Speaker 8 (01:44:00):
I appreciate a biscuit. Be safe out there today, be
safe every single day.

Speaker 7 (01:44:03):
Yeah, I'm gonna pay. I'm going pacers in six. Let's
just knock this out of the way. What do you
what do you? What do you think? Tripoli? How many?

Speaker 9 (01:44:11):
How many for Oklahoma to get? So you're gonna lay
down and die. You ain't gonna cry, You ain't gonna
smire on five? Yeah, thunder in five, Thunder Thunder five now.

Speaker 7 (01:44:22):
Yeah, this is our year, guys.

Speaker 8 (01:44:24):
Okay, sure see it's like you can actually believe it
with the Thunder. But it was like when everybody was
doing it with the Lakers, I was like, you don't
watch basketball, or if you do, then you just lie
to yourself when you watch basketball. But like I was like,
there is no planet, there is not Christmas, there is
not New Year's, there is not tet where that is
going to happen, and ended up going that way.

Speaker 7 (01:44:45):
Look how that happens when you go on the run.

Speaker 9 (01:44:47):
The tires has gone on this postseason. I don't think
it ends in heartbreak. I think it ends in Tryum.
That's that's the reason I'm pulling.

Speaker 7 (01:44:53):
For the Pacers.

Speaker 8 (01:44:54):
Well, and so the point you brought up to about Carlisle,
I mean he's been here. I mean Mark Dingol has
not been here. Yeah, So I mean that's part of it.
And I mean, you know, do we get the free
throw merchant getting to the line, which apparently people are
upset with Doris Burke for leaning into that with not
only that but also like a World War two joke
that she made about France and Germany.

Speaker 7 (01:45:13):
I guess it was heart and segn that got into
it with somebody. I don't I don't know, I read
about it.

Speaker 9 (01:45:17):
But anyway, wait, really, yeah, I can guarantee what it is.

Speaker 7 (01:45:22):
There's probably him and Rudy Gobert getting into it.

Speaker 9 (01:45:24):
And because I think that's what it was, and that
was why there you go, there's the French and Germany contract. Yeah,
so dumb, dumb, dumb, stop mountain jokes, bother your day.

Speaker 7 (01:45:32):
People. Just get up, have a cup of coffee, sit
down and shut up.

Speaker 8 (01:45:35):
Oh look, some of them are good, some of them
are bad, and some of them will even have you
sometimes saying oh man, I'm not sure I would have
said that, But that's comedy.

Speaker 7 (01:45:41):
And the number one rule.

Speaker 8 (01:45:43):
That I've learned in this business is if you're funny,
then you can be funny. If you're not funny, then
don't you're like you're like Bruno Kirby and good morning,
good morning Vietnam dated reference. I know, go look it up.
It's Robin Williams movie. But you know, like where he
tries to I'm not talking necessarily to you. I mean
it's most of our audience for our audiences twenty five
to fifty five, So I mean that falls outside of

(01:46:04):
outside that time. Oh I gotta had a little bit
of context to it. And I know I don't deliver
it all the time, but at least the chances I
can do it, I try to do it.

Speaker 9 (01:46:12):
I let Wax and Ac have the jokes. I just
sit there and give facts. That's me I'm not a funny.

Speaker 7 (01:46:17):
Funny Adam Wexler, underrated funny. Surprisingly, Yes, he'll have its
one lighters that gets you going. That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 8 (01:46:23):
It's it's dry, it's effortless, and you don't necessarily see
it coming, so when you do get hit with that fastball,
then you feel it.

Speaker 7 (01:46:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:46:30):
I appreciate my role as being the setup man. I
am a I am your typical point guard in this business.
Sometimes I make some flashes. Sometimes it hastle highlights. Sometimes
I go on some long rants. Don't make me be funny.

Speaker 8 (01:46:41):
So I mean you feel like you're the hype man,
like some comedians do need a hype man.

Speaker 7 (01:46:45):
Yeah, I'm the six man coming off the bench.

Speaker 9 (01:46:46):
Okay, quite literally, this past week I've been the six
man coming off the bench.

Speaker 7 (01:46:50):
Filling in on.

Speaker 8 (01:46:50):
Another dated reference, the microwave Vinnie Johnson over here there
we got this idea what it is. Yeah, he was
a guy that was known for his instant shooting when
he came off the bench, and that's why they called
him the microwave.

Speaker 18 (01:47:01):
Ah.

Speaker 9 (01:47:01):
Okay, there we go, speaking of which, I want to
talk about the other conversation that we're gonna.

Speaker 8 (01:47:05):
Have yeah, we could do that, I mean, and it's
also something that can be carried over. We saw Michelle
Beadle yesterday going crazy about Sirius XM deciding to bump
her in Cody Decker's show for steven A. Smith, and
the quote that is making the rounds out there the
most is I don't respect him, which apparently there is
a history here from when she was at ESPN. Oh

(01:47:27):
it's atory yeah, that she was not a big fan
of his. All right, fine, whatever, but you were letting
me know the context of the story and the timeline
of how it all played out where they're told your
show is being replaced, steven A is going to be
in the spot, but go do a show, which that
part right there, like whenever I've heard that, Let's just
be honest here, You're in this business. Eventually you are

(01:47:48):
going to be replaced. It's just it is a unfortunate
truth of what this business is. It's going to happen,
and it sucks, and you just hope that you're able
to catch on to the next spots.

Speaker 7 (01:48:00):
Some people do, some people don't.

Speaker 8 (01:48:01):
But it's also though too, there's many different ways that
you're told you're being replaced. Yeah, after a show. More
often than not, that's when it happens. But you will
also too. You've given me some instances and protect the innocent.
Don't name names, but I mean where you know people
have been told that's happening and then oh hey, but
still go do a show. Yeah, like that's happened to

(01:48:22):
me before. And I was like no, like I'm if,
I'm out, I'm out, Like I'm done, I'm gone.

Speaker 9 (01:48:28):
My last day at another station. I got told it
that morning, thirty minutes before I was on that it
was my last show. I was already in and I
drove thirty minutes in. So I did the show because
if I want to get paid, but also I wasn't
going to drive home afterwards. But if you called me
the night before and said, hey, can you still close
out the week? No, why would I know if I'm

(01:48:49):
going to close out the week.

Speaker 7 (01:48:49):
I will close out the week.

Speaker 9 (01:48:51):
But I'm going to handle it the exact same way
that Beatle and Decker handled it yesterday. Like you hear
program directors say you're a part of the company, like
we care so much about you, and this is not
a shot anybody here. I'm just saying, in general, if
you're going to replace somebody and then ask them to
get on air, then also expect the vitriol, disdain, and

(01:49:12):
the negativity that's gonna come your way because they just
lost their job and you're still telling.

Speaker 7 (01:49:17):
Them finish out the week on your nine to five.

Speaker 8 (01:49:19):
Beatles, saying, it's a reminder we're all just pieces of
blank to someone. If you forgot it there, it is well,
I mean, in so many words, you're not wrong. It's
an extreme way to phrase it, but still, I mean,
it just goes to show you that nobody is irreplaceable
in this business. There's only a handful of people who
you can look to and say, yeah, probably irreplaceable, probably untouchable,

(01:49:41):
but there's not many. It's this way in this industry.
It's this way in many different industries where, yeah, certain people,
there's amount of crap you're willing to put up with
from them because, well, guess what, they're really good at
their job. It's in sales, it's in oil and gas,
it's in whatever. If you're really talented at your job,
then people will put up with your grandfather. The other
part of it, too, is if you really are truly

(01:50:02):
that good at your job. They're not looking to replace you.
And this is something that again we'll carry this over.
But like Michelle Beadle, she continuously hops around from place
to place because not because of the place, but because
of her. You're the problem. You're the one. There's a
reason why you continuously lose and pick up other jobs,

(01:50:25):
which I don't understand the other people who want to
then say, hey, it didn't work over there, but it's
going to work here. You're the problem.

Speaker 9 (01:50:32):
Yeah, but if I got told I was being replaced
by steven A and Moore, steven A Smith was on
the earways, I'd probably have an attitude issue too.

Speaker 8 (01:50:38):
There's more that goes into this, and we'll continue it
right here. It is the Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (01:50:44):
Why You're back. This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Get
back at it.

Speaker 8 (01:50:51):
Because my brother played baseball at UNC and their victory
song for Carolina Baseball was Carolina.

Speaker 7 (01:50:57):
In my mind, I'm going to Carolina.

Speaker 10 (01:50:59):
No.

Speaker 9 (01:50:59):
I been told, No Jim Crochey, no, James Taylor, No.

Speaker 7 (01:51:04):
There's somebody else.

Speaker 9 (01:51:05):
I know that ac Cant's stomach and like they're all
on the band.

Speaker 7 (01:51:08):
Yeah, I know that.

Speaker 8 (01:51:10):
I mean because James Taylor I do know about because obviously,
for those of you that don't know, Cole now does
the job that I used to have producing the A team.

Speaker 7 (01:51:17):
In the acdam.

Speaker 8 (01:51:18):
Yeah, well that's to be careful you say that out loud.
But there were certain ticks that would get to both guys,
and sometimes I would intentionally do them just to make
sure that it put them off sides they're in the segment. Like,
for example, WEX can't stand certain people in the media.

Speaker 7 (01:51:39):
John Hayman is one of them.

Speaker 8 (01:51:40):
So anytime I could find John Hayman's sound that was
like a minute and a half long, I would play it.
So then WEX while it's playing could go, oh good,
there's more. No, I mean, I'm serious, there's more to
still talk about.

Speaker 7 (01:51:51):
His favorite is Greenberg? Right now?

Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:51:53):
Yeah, I mean I think most people probably have the
same reaction. Although the funny thing is, for all the
things I heard about Mike Greenberg, he's been incredibly nice
to me.

Speaker 9 (01:52:01):
Yeah, he's nice, But that doesn't mean that your sports
ticks have to be front and center and every single conversation.

Speaker 8 (01:52:06):
How is it more of a problem of him or
is it a problem that his network keeps putting him
on everything.

Speaker 7 (01:52:10):
Oh, I think it's the same thing with Stephen A. Smith.

Speaker 9 (01:52:12):
Back to the conversation that we're having on serious SEXM.

Speaker 7 (01:52:15):
Look, I got it for you blaming.

Speaker 9 (01:52:18):
I'm not blaming Greene forgetting opportunities.

Speaker 7 (01:52:21):
I get opportunities. You get opportunities. Wex gets opportunities.

Speaker 9 (01:52:24):
Anybody who gets an opportunity you want to take it.
The problem is that staying your dang lane, Like there
are strengths that we all have. I promise you when
it comes to college football season, I'm going to be
tackling like a hyena listening to what MT says, what
WEX says, what AC says, Well maybe even Sean says
at times.

Speaker 7 (01:52:43):
But when it comes to like.

Speaker 9 (01:52:45):
NBA coverage, I know, sit back, go ahead, have your opinion,
get a one liner in back to producing, like.

Speaker 7 (01:52:52):
Know your strengths.

Speaker 9 (01:52:54):
There are some things that Greenie says he has no
idea what he's talking about, just like Steven A.

Speaker 7 (01:52:58):
Smith, who I can't see coming.

Speaker 9 (01:53:00):
This time next year on ESPN Stanley Cup Playoffs. His
correspondent thoughts on what's going on on.

Speaker 8 (01:53:06):
The ice, Well, I mean it is also too there
is kind of a little bit with steven A. Smith
where he's got only a handful of pitches to throw,
slam the Cowboys, yell about the Knicks, yell about just
anything in general. Those are pretty much his three goats.
Who's right there?

Speaker 10 (01:53:21):
Ye?

Speaker 7 (01:53:21):
All three?

Speaker 8 (01:53:22):
Well, but I mean the point that you brought up
though about why we were talking about this Michelle Beadle
and Cody Decker. Of course the show on Sirius XM
Mad Dog Radio being replaced by steven A.

Speaker 7 (01:53:32):
Smith, and I was not.

Speaker 8 (01:53:34):
Aware of the past between her and steven A. But
it is also too I brought up about her being
the problem.

Speaker 7 (01:53:42):
I remember back a few years ago.

Speaker 8 (01:53:44):
I think it was the Urban Meyer and I can't
remember who else was doing the press conference, but it
was the Zach Smith stuff, the stuff that was put
out there by Brett McMurphy about right yeah, where you
know there was abuse allegations and there was you know,
definitive proof that set abuse was happening, and the way
that Urban Meyer handled it, and I just remember, she goes,

(01:54:05):
I'm just so done with football. I'm just ready for
the NBA season. Good idea on a medium that is
predicated on football, like I worked with somebody once who
they set on air. They played basketball in college, and
she said, I'm not much of a football person during
the break, I didn't.

Speaker 7 (01:54:22):
I didn't, y'all didn't do anything like that.

Speaker 8 (01:54:24):
I calmly put my head set down and I said,
the quickest way to get off this mic is to
say what you just said.

Speaker 7 (01:54:29):
It's one hundred percent. Listen.

Speaker 9 (01:54:32):
Everyone has their strengths. Everyone knows what sticks out with them.
And I'm not just talking about when it comes to
setting up segues or being the funny man or getting
somebody to prepare to go off on a long tangent.
I understand that, but everybody also has their niche sport
that they watch.

Speaker 7 (01:54:48):
Guess what your audience controls.

Speaker 9 (01:54:51):
If you are on the airwaves, if they want to
hear about the Astros, you're gonna talk about the Astros
just because I I want to talk about Hey, college football.

Speaker 7 (01:55:00):
Playoff rankings are coming out.

Speaker 9 (01:55:01):
What pathway do you think is the easiest for Alabama
to get there?

Speaker 7 (01:55:04):
That's why I have a podcast.

Speaker 9 (01:55:05):
That's why I do things on the side, so that
way I can get those thoughts out. When it's not
college football season, you're really big into the NFL. Guess
what if the NFL season is prevalent, we're going to
talk about it, and you know what, we're not going
to talk about the NHL off season in the city
of Houston.

Speaker 8 (01:55:21):
Clearly, this is a case of what I've talked about before.
We've got the rules on the side of the refrigerator,
life rules, you know, pay no mind, list all of
those different types of things.

Speaker 7 (01:55:31):
Show rules.

Speaker 8 (01:55:31):
We don't have very many of them. Don't take yourself
too seriously, always have fun. The third one is kya
know your audience. I mean, that's what feeds into all
of this is that nobody wants to be preached to.
Nobody wants to be told how to live their life.
Nobody wants to have virtue signaling in less on in
and pandering.

Speaker 7 (01:55:47):
And I just felt like that's all you get from her.

Speaker 8 (01:55:49):
And it's like, you want to continue to do this,
and you want to wonder why you're out of a job. Well,
because soon enough people start doing this, they start turning
you off.

Speaker 7 (01:55:58):
I turn off my microphone for effect there. But that's
what they do.

Speaker 8 (01:56:02):
I mean, eventually they move away because in this industry,
let me tell you as clear as possible. The two
ways that you keep your job entertainment and informative. In
the second part, honestly doesn't matter as much. Some people
will tell you it does, but it doesn't matter as
much because there are people who do this job in
this medium sports radio, that are not the biggest sports fans,

(01:56:23):
but they're really damn good at doing radio, and that's
what keeps you listening all the time.

Speaker 9 (01:56:27):
Dude, It's about having fun. I tell people all the time,
I don't have a real job.

Speaker 7 (01:56:34):
Literally, I'm on the radio in the morning.

Speaker 9 (01:56:36):
And I get to produce later on in the afternoon
and have a dumb take and go home to my
wife and dogs.

Speaker 7 (01:56:41):
Like, that's not a job.

Speaker 9 (01:56:43):
I have to be so gung ho fixated on always
being righted.

Speaker 7 (01:56:47):
It's just fun.

Speaker 9 (01:56:48):
Have a good laugh, come on their airwaves, make fun
of me, make fun of Dan, agree with our takes,
disagree with our takes, and then go home and enjoy
the rest of your life.

Speaker 7 (01:56:56):
That's sports.

Speaker 9 (01:56:57):
When you're talked down to in this industry specifically, you
immediately lose the audience because nobody is tuning into sports
to be told you're an idiot. You have no idea
what to talk about I'm the smartest person in the room.
This is why you need to listen to me. And
we know people that work like this.

Speaker 8 (01:57:12):
There's a reason why a lot of careers were lost
during COVID, and we all know why that's the case,
because people showed who they truly were, and then they
also took it as oh, well, you know, I'm important
enough to listen to on this, so I need to
be able to have, you know, strong, be on the
right side of history when it comes to things like this.

Speaker 7 (01:57:32):
It's placeble tomorrow. That's one hundred percent what it is.

Speaker 8 (01:57:35):
And that's the final part of all of this is like,
I understand her emotions. Trust me, I get it. You've
been in this business. You are one hundred percent right
to feel that way. And I felt that way, you
felt that way. All of us have felt that way
one time or another. But it's also to the reaction
that she had that many I've seen in this industry have,
and it honestly just angers the you know what out

(01:57:56):
of me. You are not entitled to this job. It
is a privilege to have this job, and if you're
not good enough at this job, then this is what happens.

Speaker 7 (01:58:03):
To you.

Speaker 9 (01:58:04):
I've told people. I've told people this for a million times.
I'll continue to say it. You're a name today, you're
a nobody tomorrow, I promise you. If you don't want
to get with the way of time, congratulations and move
out of it so that way somebody can take your mantle.
People for years were saying, why the hell do I
need to get on Twitter? Congratulations to the newspaper business
that is out now, Because if you have people that

(01:58:24):
are now posting the information that they would get in
a Sunday edition now ten minutes after.

Speaker 7 (01:58:30):
That's why.

Speaker 8 (01:58:30):
There is the rule that a buddy of mine taught
me a long time ago in this business, don't give
away the good stuff for free. You have a take
on it, somebody wants to know about it. Listen tomorrow morning,
six am.

Speaker 7 (01:58:39):
There you go. That's how you do it.

Speaker 8 (01:58:41):
So anyway, when it comes to life rules everything else,
I mean, we jot them down. There's no reason for
us to give them out cause I mean, I don't
have things figured out on my own life.

Speaker 7 (01:58:51):
I'm not going to tell you how to live yours.

Speaker 8 (01:58:53):
But you know, if you want food takes, well, then
the proofs in the pudding.

Speaker 7 (01:58:56):
Just look at me. Trust me.

Speaker 9 (01:58:57):
I can give you those I give out life advices
to go ahead and watch it blow up in their face.

Speaker 7 (01:59:01):
It's fun for me, it's a national it's a pastime.

Speaker 18 (01:59:04):
Life.

Speaker 7 (01:59:04):
My life is a complete old disaster.

Speaker 9 (01:59:06):
You want to ask for advice, all right, cool, Let's
see how you handle this.

Speaker 8 (01:59:10):
If I you, If I am asked, I caveat it
with well, take it for what it's worth.

Speaker 9 (01:59:14):
But you know, no, I fully invest It's just like
I fully invested every single one of my takes.

Speaker 7 (01:59:19):
I truly believe this is the way to handle it.
No idea, if it's true or not. Oh, it takes
are one thing.

Speaker 8 (01:59:23):
It's it's the life advice thing that I'm like, Eh,
I don't think you want that for me. I think
you're asking the wrong guy when it comes to that. Man,
I'm more than happy. I'm more than happy to give
you advice. I'm also going to laugh when it blows
up in your phone. I'm an almost forty year old
who might drink a little bit too much at times,
and probably watches too much sports for his own good,
and can be a bit of a knucklehead. So if
you want advice, for me on that. Well, then oh, okay,

(01:59:45):
do you sew your own peril.

Speaker 9 (01:59:47):
I'm a thirty one year old that's been standing up
trying to go to the bathroom for the last thirty minutes.

Speaker 7 (01:59:50):
Like, if you want to take advice or making gradually.

Speaker 8 (01:59:52):
Here, we can do an entire segment on that the
cleanest damn bathrooms on the planet because of the cleaning
lady here. You think that the place with the beaver
on on it, that those bathrooms are the cleanest.

Speaker 7 (02:00:02):
Yeah, because she goes for thirty minutes. Why you know what?

Speaker 8 (02:00:04):
Twelve thirty three West Loops, South seventh floor. Those are
the bathrooms right there. All right, let's get back into
the Astros conversation. Gordy normally joins us nine o'clock on Thursdays.
He'll be here nine to thirty, so we'll do our
Thursday visit with him, courtesy or Carbach Brewing.

Speaker 7 (02:00:18):
All that much more coming up right here.

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Speaker 8 (02:01:23):
Cole Thompson in for Sean, Tripley, Emmanuel Elmore, Ari Alexander
gonna be in tomorrow for Sean, and then the triumphant
return on Monday like Tripley. Before I hit us with
some quick headlines here, like let's let's wonder aloud here,
how do we approach you know, Sean being back in person.
Do we just act like nothing's changed, or like, do

(02:01:45):
we you know, kind of do.

Speaker 7 (02:01:46):
Like the hey, who are you regular scheduled program? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (02:01:49):
I'm just trying. Yeah, I'm gonna think about that over
the weekend. I'm gonna marinate on it and see how
it all turns out. Once we pulled out of the
smoker on Monday, but seawana do you call it?

Speaker 9 (02:02:00):
Charlie and go, hey, just just just just un just
just turn his card off for one day. He just
go for so long?

Speaker 7 (02:02:05):
Nah, No, No, I don't.

Speaker 8 (02:02:07):
I don't do that one because uh, I remembered once
somebody joked with a former Texan about you know, oh man,
you know, you look like you just got cut, and
then he goes, yeah, I have. And it wasn't me,
but I saw somebody else do it, and I was like, yeah, Bud,
that's a level of awkward that even I couldn't reach

(02:02:28):
on that one. And trust me, I I intentionally and
unintentionally reach awkward status quite a bit.

Speaker 9 (02:02:34):
I just just imagine him having to call you and
Triple and be like, hey, guys, can you let me in?

Speaker 7 (02:02:38):
What are you talking about? You didn't hear the news,
but we're starting the show.

Speaker 8 (02:02:42):
Not because then I have to deal with it. Triple
Eye has to deal with it, like let's let's let's
not right.

Speaker 9 (02:02:48):
I can say this because he's not going to see
me ever, because he's in Newton.

Speaker 8 (02:02:52):
Well, one way or another, you'll you'll you'll wonder past
each other in the halls and you know.

Speaker 9 (02:02:56):
I heard, I heard what you said about me. Yes,
I did Seoan, Yeah, fight on Sean.

Speaker 7 (02:03:02):
Well, he is a trojan. He definitely does that. Fight
on Sean. There you go.

Speaker 8 (02:03:06):
Astros three nothing losers last night to the Pirates in
Pittsburgh fromer Valdez, though going to go tonight in the
finale NBA Finals Game one coming up in OKC Pacers
and the Thunder and the Women's College World Series Finals softball.
Texas takes Game one against Texas Tech two to one
in Oklahoma City. But you know, we've talked a lot

(02:03:27):
of Astros here in the early going, and I mean
it gets back to what we've talked about and we'll
continue to talk about. Look until it changes there. There
is no coming off of this topic because it is
the ongoing topic of you know, this Astros team in
twenty twenty five and for a good amount of the
twenty twenty four season, is this lineup it's mid with

(02:03:49):
or without Jordan Alvarez, And right now it's even more
mid because you don't have him in the lineup and
ain't get any better anytime soon. Right now, That's that's
the question.

Speaker 9 (02:03:57):
Because of as much at this point, with how much
information we have through sixty three games, You're gonna have
your hotspurts.

Speaker 7 (02:04:05):
You're gonna have a player that gets three for five
at the plate.

Speaker 9 (02:04:08):
You're gonna have somebody that is gonna end up going
two for three us the scoring positions, you're driving four,
and then the next game they're gonna go back and
hit out for four.

Speaker 7 (02:04:17):
It's the spurts.

Speaker 9 (02:04:18):
And the problem with that, Dan is that it's not
just the spurts in terms of, oh, it's the offense
finally humting. No, it's it's a player finally doing his
job while the other three are underachieving. And then the
next guy lines on up and that he ends up delivering,
but the other two are still struggling. And the next
guy lines on up and the guy that was hitting
three hundred the day before, when now he's going over

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for four with three strikeouts. That's the problem right now.
And hey, we're not talking about You're on Avarez anymore
because at least we know that he's not in the picture.

Speaker 7 (02:04:47):
But this is the next subject.

Speaker 9 (02:04:48):
Is the heart of your lineup, the meat of your
offense is still struggling, and nobody can find it.

Speaker 7 (02:04:54):
Consistent rhythm.

Speaker 8 (02:04:55):
It's the small town suit store in the movie My
cousin Vinny. Why is Vincent LaGuardia Gambini wearing a tuxedo
in court? Well, because the entire store has the flu.
I mean, that's the problem with the lineup. The entire
store has the flu way too often. Like it's not
you know, two or three guys that are able to
carry the day for this team, it's maybe one or two,

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and then it's everybody else is completely in the gutter.

Speaker 7 (02:05:18):
Yeah, And then you.

Speaker 9 (02:05:19):
Also got to consider it this way, there's not a
consistent basis on your offense.

Speaker 7 (02:05:24):
All across the American League.

Speaker 9 (02:05:26):
The Yankees, the Mariners, the Athletics, the Red Sox, the Tigers,
the Orioles, the Guardians, the Rays all have more home
runs than you. Seven of those teams I just named
have more RBIs than you. Five of those teams I
just named have a higher OPS, have a higher batting average,
have a higher opp They have a higher slogging percentage

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as a roster than you. Right now, and largely your
pitching is still in the range of so elite.

Speaker 7 (02:05:57):
We should be talking about that, but we can't.

Speaker 9 (02:06:00):
Can't because of everything that we're fixating on is okay
when Fromber and Hunter Brown are not out there, how
can we see this offense take flight? Because again, in
those games, you just need a one run, one run
differential and you're good. One solo shot and you're out.
You're you're walking through with a breeze nine percent of
the time.

Speaker 8 (02:06:16):
Well, I mean, now we just need Marissa Tomey. It's disclosure.
He has to give it to you. Yea moron. I mean,
you know, the entire kid, the entire case, Ralph Macchio
and his buddy got out of prison. Well, because you know,
Marissa Tomey finally got to Vincent to start understanding the
intricacies of law on Well, Lurch that was on the bench,
Well he saw it his way and he ended up

(02:06:37):
getting the guys out of a murder charge.

Speaker 9 (02:06:38):
She never should have won an oscar. I'm sorry, she
never should have one. She was fantastic in that movie.
That movie is made because of her.

Speaker 7 (02:06:44):
I don't care. Does that mean that she deserves the oscar? Yes?

Speaker 9 (02:06:47):
No, No, I'm sorry I think that I I generally
believe who was a Warren Batty? That right right out
the name, and that people said that he messed up
like he fumbled and was like, no, just kid getting.

Speaker 8 (02:06:59):
A Travolta with what's her name, Dina Menzel? Yeah, who
cares I do? And then of course the glombing on
from Jimmy Fallon of doing the whole little like you know,
children's play toy thing that they did, like.

Speaker 7 (02:07:11):
Wait, just wait, what what do they do?

Speaker 8 (02:07:14):
Like their sing along thing like where they're playing like
the little like mini kids xylophones, and like all of
the other things that Fallon does. Most of that show sucks.
The only redeeming thing that happens from that show is
the roots are part of it. That's about it. The
only redeeming thing because for the longest time, Oh, Jimmy
Fallon's so funny.

Speaker 9 (02:07:32):
Is he funny? Or is he just does he just
laugh at everything? No, that's the problem is that I
like comedy. Guess what if you have to laugh at
your own punchline for us to get it, it's not
that funny.

Speaker 7 (02:07:41):
Well, it's more than anything.

Speaker 8 (02:07:42):
I mean, the best comics are the ones that will
just you know, they'll throw the grenade and they'll stand
there and watch it Debton eight. But you know they
also know that eventually the detonation is going to happen,
and well, there's going to be some victims.

Speaker 9 (02:07:53):
Because who's number one at the top of your comics
list right now?

Speaker 7 (02:07:56):
Number one overall just like like right now in the game, Oh,
Tony Hinchcliffs, no question.

Speaker 9 (02:08:02):
I would say, I would say Shane is probably number
one for me and Tony's number two.

Speaker 8 (02:08:06):
Well, I mean Tony is like the recent guys, I mean,
the goat to me and is still with us?

Speaker 7 (02:08:12):
Is Chappelle? Oh far, No, nobody's touching Chappelle.

Speaker 9 (02:08:15):
Oh And the fact that Pey were like trying to
get him cancels, Like have you ever watched the Chappelle
Show and how many of those clips they're not allowed?

Speaker 8 (02:08:23):
And the irony of all of it too, is that
the guy canceled himself. Yeah, Like that's what you don't understand.
You can't cancel somebody who is willing to walk away.
That is the opposite of the effect that you think
you're going to get. You try to cancel Dave Chappelle,
you try to micromanage him on his network and Netflix
special or anything like that. He's just gonna tell you,
all right, fine, we won't do it.

Speaker 7 (02:08:42):
I can't stand Kreischer. Bert, Yeah, I can't do it.

Speaker 8 (02:08:45):
I like it, I mean just because like I think
it's genuine, And I turned into Burt Kreischer there for
a second to probably should be a little bit more
of Tom Sigura. But I like it because it's genuine
and it is who he is. But I mean, I
do understand like where the bits start to kind of like,
you know, all right, when's Burt gonna take your shirt off?
When's he gonna start telling stories about partying at Florida State,

(02:09:06):
Like when's he gonna tell the story with the Russian mob?

Speaker 7 (02:09:08):
Like doesn't he did not have shoes on right now already? Sure?
How many drinks did he have before he entered the
podcast room? Apparently apparently Burt could put him down. When
you're that big, I hope you can. I hope you're
not a lightweight.

Speaker 8 (02:09:20):
That's like Chappelle Rogan told the story once of I
guess like him and Taylor's shared and like a bunch
of people went out to dinner in Vegas and that
they were leaving the restaurant that they were at, and
Bert had ordered two more martinis and he crushed both
of them.

Speaker 7 (02:09:35):
Before they got to the front of the restaurant.

Speaker 9 (02:09:38):
I hope that you can actually drink that way if
your way of hanging out with the Russian mafia and
they made a movie on it, I.

Speaker 8 (02:09:44):
Hope they can put down a little bit of vodka.
Burt can get after it for sure. So anyway, the
Astros turned into My Cousin Vinnie, which turned into a
comedian talk.

Speaker 7 (02:09:53):
That's that's the Sean Salisbury Show right there for you.

Speaker 8 (02:09:55):
He just you never know exactly where the car is
going to steer, and that's part of the fun. But
the fun has not been the roller coaster ride that
the Astros are on. And one guy that is in
the front of the roller coaster, we'll talk about him
right here. Don't forget Chris Gordy gonna join us at
nine thirty for his Thursday visit here on the Sean
Salisbury Show. So we'll get all that coming your way

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here in just a few But first, easy peasy lemon squeeze.
That's what Megan said when he used Lucille to absolutely
crush a zombie and just to show Rick and Darryl
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this was, and you know I'm in control, You're not.

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Do you want to find a way to be able
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I got the answer. It's one eight hundred car cash.

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That's one eight hundred at two two seven at twenty
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at the time. And Megan, you know, is having to
be himself. If he is just a normal guy like
me and you, normal lady just like you, any of
those things. And Megan was driving around in his truck
and trying to wonder, you know, hey, do I want
to go get a new one? And if I do,
do I really want to do the whole trade ind thing? Well,

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Speaker 7 (02:11:18):
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You've got the power, You've got the trust that you're
dealing with trained professionals that have been doing this part
of the industry for years on end. They know cars,
and they are out here looking out for you.

Speaker 7 (02:11:32):
You never know how much your car is worth either.

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I mean that's one of those things that you might
go by, you know some of the you know metrics
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you're gonna get about that much. Why not deal with
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Speaker 4 (02:12:13):
Me cround Late Broadcasting from the most hated city in baseball,
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Speaker 9 (02:12:27):
We have a conversation off air about that that's kind
of like a threat about about about manly men, and
we talked about Keanu Reeves. He came up in conversation. Yeah, okay,
what do you know Keanu Reeves more for Matrix or
John Wick?

Speaker 7 (02:12:40):
John Wick? Yeah, I was gonna say now now it's
John Wick.

Speaker 9 (02:12:43):
Okay, thank you, because I'm still arguing with one of
my buddies that says Neo is the reason he got.

Speaker 7 (02:12:48):
On the map, and I'm okay with that, but you're no,
that's not true.

Speaker 8 (02:12:51):
He got on the map because of Bill and Ted's
actual adventure and then as Jack in Speed.

Speaker 9 (02:12:57):
Yeah, but what was a point break to Johnny? Utah, dude, exactly,
see exactly. And that's the thing, Like that was one
of the remakes that I couldn't stomach because it was
so well done with him and Swayzey.

Speaker 7 (02:13:07):
I'm an FBI agent. You gotta go down. I love him.

Speaker 8 (02:13:12):
His acting chops have gotten better over the years, but
he's also known for his tics.

Speaker 9 (02:13:16):
But go ahead, No, but like when you're able to
have a movie that maybe at most, as you say,
sixty lines in it and I'm fully invested, that's what
you're known.

Speaker 8 (02:13:28):
For, Yeah, i'd say I'm back. And it's also too,
I mean, it's for him. The good news with being
John Wick is that the the the actual dialogue is
not really needed because that's not why people are going there.
They're going there to see a snap next and you know,
be able to cycle weapons and do all these different
types of things that John Wick is able to do.

Speaker 9 (02:13:46):
They're seeing him going into his fifth movie still trying
to avenge them killing his puppy like that.

Speaker 7 (02:13:52):
That's what I understand it. Man.

Speaker 9 (02:13:54):
Listen, the entire everyone knew that John Wick was the
good guy. The second of that movie started when they
killed his dog Like that is a way to get
people on your side. Kill the dog with it the
first five minutes. We know who the hero is, we
know who the villain is. Nobody is going to argue
with it unless you don't.

Speaker 7 (02:14:10):
Have a soul.

Speaker 8 (02:14:11):
Oh, dude, one hundred percent. I am in that group
that you kill a dog in a movie, then I
want you to die the absolute worst way scene.

Speaker 9 (02:14:20):
Yeah, oh, I thought theon graj Ory. I don't remember
what's character is in that movie. I just know he's
in Game of Thrones. I wanted him to suffer like
I thought he got off easy in that movie. Like
John came out, he shot every one of his friends
around him, shoots him in the leg, gets him to
sit down.

Speaker 7 (02:14:35):
Okay, am I even gonna love No.

Speaker 8 (02:14:36):
That was the beauty of it is because he had
him in agonizing pain.

Speaker 7 (02:14:39):
And then the guy's like, oh this about a ah.
I wanted more.

Speaker 9 (02:14:43):
I wanted like shoot him in the foot, shoot him
in the finger. But you're okay, what's the movie with
the art the clown in it? Do you know which
one I'm talking about? Do you know what you want
to talk to the clown? That sounds very familiar? Ye,
give me one second.

Speaker 7 (02:14:54):
It's the what's it called? It's uh, it's it's the
new one that's come on out.

Speaker 9 (02:14:58):
It's like a very big hop culture movie at this point,
Like it's not in theaters.

Speaker 7 (02:15:03):
Terrorized terrif Terrifier, terrifier movies like the Ways One. Okay,
so okay.

Speaker 9 (02:15:08):
So so in the Terrifier he kills Santa Claus and
he kills him with uh liquid nitrogen, and so he
freezes off his body parts and then takes a sledgehammer.

Speaker 7 (02:15:19):
He goes full sickle mode and you would watch what
is actually?

Speaker 8 (02:15:26):
No, she would she is in like the Slasher like
all of those that's not me.

Speaker 9 (02:15:31):
That's not even a top five horrifying death, Like that's
that's PG thirteen level.

Speaker 7 (02:15:36):
Good Lord, when you killed but you kill the dog,
that's what you get.

Speaker 9 (02:15:42):
I'm sorry, liquid nitigen freeze the body parts, and then
take the sledge hammer and pull an air and judge
fifty thousand feet in the air.

Speaker 8 (02:15:50):
Let's go, what is your dog's name? I forget that's
Terminator too. Where they found out, you know, that they
were talking to the T one thousand and not actually
his stepmother. And then sure enough, you know, you see
the step mother turning into T one thousand and gets
the stepfather with uh the uh?

Speaker 7 (02:16:08):
Whatever? Is it bad that I don't like Terminator?

Speaker 8 (02:16:11):
I mean, it's fine, it's not. It's not it's not
gonna ruin my opinion of you or anything else, Like
if you don't like it, it's yeah, it's not gonna
bother me.

Speaker 9 (02:16:20):
Cops better, I mean, robo cops great, robo cops fantastic, I.

Speaker 7 (02:16:24):
Think, okay, And also I will say, robo cop you can.
It's also kind of prophetic for the current times. But
I digress.

Speaker 9 (02:16:29):
Go ahead, I'm gonna say that RoboCop you can remake.
I don't like I don't have this. If you're coming
with me, I don't have.

Speaker 7 (02:16:35):
The cent amount of value for though, it seems like
you kind of lose this luster.

Speaker 8 (02:16:38):
If Peter Weller is not involved, which, by the way,
did they ever build the statue in Detroit? Like didn't
weren't they going to build the the Robocops statue? I
think I think it was a funnier die bit, And
then people actually were like, no, that makes sense, Like
you know, Philadelphia's got the Rocky statue, Like, there's no
reason why we shouldn't have this in Detroit.

Speaker 7 (02:16:56):
It's what we're known for. What would you put Terminator?

Speaker 18 (02:16:58):
Then?

Speaker 7 (02:16:59):
Like the Terminator statue that's gonna be in LA. That's
where it was.

Speaker 9 (02:17:03):
Okay, I was gonna say it, would it be in
LA or would it be technically just through California?

Speaker 8 (02:17:08):
Well, I mean he was the governor, so I mean
you do have an argument for that. Put it in
there one now and nothing goes to Sacramento, I mean
except for a franchise that you know has no home
and it does doesn't even want you to use the
name of Sacramento. See, there's so embarrassed to be there
in Sacramento that they don't even want you to know
that they're in Sacramento.

Speaker 9 (02:17:26):
The athletics, I listen, I want to believe in them
this year just a little bit, but then you have
a minor league ballpark like Luis Savarino kills.

Speaker 7 (02:17:33):
Me in my fantasy lineup every single time that he
pitches at home. Oh, we didn't fantacy talk. I like it.
I'm I'm sorry.

Speaker 9 (02:17:40):
Like, this is a dude that has been like he
is the I compared him on Tuesday. He's the Mitch
Keller of the American League. He gets no run support
at home and his e RA is fluctuated, but he's
actually been a pretty decent pitcher when he plays in
the major league parts.

Speaker 8 (02:17:55):
See I'm glad you brought that up, because Ross was
the ultimate mush for how last night was going to
go the Astros against Mike Burrows is. I'm like, hey,
eight point six four ERA, be fine, he goes well,
but then watch you know he holds him scoreless for
six innings. Well, funny enough, that's how it played out.

Speaker 7 (02:18:11):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 9 (02:18:11):
I said on Tuesday, they're gonna beat Paul Schemes, they'll
beat Mitch Keller. I don't know what's gonna happen in
the in the day two matchup.

Speaker 8 (02:18:18):
I hope you're right, because I mean, there's only so
much frustration that I can take and I mean, let's
be honest here, it probably should not bother me as
much as it does about the shortcomings of this lineup
at times, but boy, it just it continues. It's seriously,
it's it's the scab that won't heal.

Speaker 7 (02:18:35):
Like that's what it is. Is like you keep picking
at it.

Speaker 8 (02:18:39):
They tell you to leave it alone, but at the
same time it doesn't go away.

Speaker 7 (02:18:43):
Yeah, and that's the problem.

Speaker 9 (02:18:44):
The same thing though right now is again it's how
you feel about Gusto, and it's how you feel about
the offense. Yes, the offense right now, you want to
see your meat of the lineup actually start to deliver
and deliver at a consistent basis. But I also think
that Ryan Gusto should be a bullpen guy, and I
don't need him out there for four and a third.

Speaker 7 (02:19:01):
I need him out there for two.

Speaker 9 (02:19:03):
And so when you give them up, when you give
up three runs and you're already down out of count
and your offense isn't delivering, when you don't have that
extra arm that's probably should be out there to give
you five or six quality innings, this is the result
that happens. You get that today with Fromber you got
that on Tuesday with with With with Lance mccallors. You're
gonna get that on Friday when Hunter Brown takes them out.

(02:19:24):
You're gonna get that with these guys. I think that
there is again that level where in twenty twenty three
when we were getting some call ups and you had
Spencer Raghedty and you had JP France, it was a
little bit different. They were meant to be starters Gusta
and these guys that meant be relievers.

Speaker 8 (02:19:38):
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Speaker 7 (02:21:15):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 8 (02:21:19):
Which by the way, I'm pronouncing it that way because
it's the Southern Louisiana way to say his name. You
don't pronounce your r's in Southern Louisiana. You say it Gody.

Speaker 12 (02:21:27):
Oh kay?

Speaker 9 (02:21:27):
Do you still call do you call Louisiana Lafey? Andrew
called Louisiana, Uh.

Speaker 8 (02:21:31):
Louisianlaf yet you I mean even going old school USL.

Speaker 7 (02:21:35):
That's what I was thinking. It's USL, right, if it's
really old school?

Speaker 9 (02:21:39):
Yeah, yeah, okay, because Gordion and I were having a
conversation about that, and he's like, we don't call it
you well, I don't know why they call it that way.
Never understood why they call it you Well, yeah, I
mean it's by the way, how did Gordatron work over?

Speaker 8 (02:21:51):
Uh he's kind of pushed back on a little bit.
It's it's still a work in progress. I mean, eventually
I'll be able to push through the wall. But until then,
you know, just got kind of just let it sit
there and then you know, eventually season it a little
bit more and then it'll be just right.

Speaker 9 (02:22:05):
Gordido crunch is what you gotta go with now, Gordia crunch,
Come on, it works.

Speaker 8 (02:22:10):
That's weird, like that almost sounds that almost sounds like
a pet name. And you can't trust people who have
pet names in their relationships because it feels like they're
compensating for something that's just not there.

Speaker 9 (02:22:20):
Yeah, but it's a taco that you can get at
a restaurant here.

Speaker 7 (02:22:24):
I mean, I get that, I understand what the concept is.
I know what it is.

Speaker 8 (02:22:28):
I just you know, I'm just like it's it's kind
of like I told you earlier about telling you know
you're a grown Manny, you tell another grown man it's
your birthday. It's kind of same deal there. It's just
it's weird. It doesn't set the tone that I think
you want it to set.

Speaker 9 (02:22:40):
I think that my nickname is just my full name
at this point, I because it's wex ac Cole Thompson.
I'm like, all right, cool, Yes, I guess I'm gonna.

Speaker 7 (02:22:48):
Be full name cold. And I've never heard that one before.

Speaker 8 (02:22:51):
Well, Dusty trouble Mom Dusty Baker recently catching up with
a veteran baseball writer Scott Miller, who wrote The Skipper,
Why Baseball's Managers Matter and Always Will, catching up with
Baker and former Blue Jays manager Cido Gassin about managing baseball,

(02:23:12):
and one of the things that Dusty talked about in
it was pushing back on Astro's management at the time
of when they won the World Series in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 7 (02:23:22):
It's in the chronicle, go check it out.

Speaker 8 (02:23:24):
Greg Rajehan has it up there and Dusty Baker says
he went against the wishes of the Astros brass during
the twenty twenty two World Series championship run and explaining,
Baker said that he heard from baseball operations with the
Astros throughout the twenty twenty two World Series against the Phillies,
which they of course won in six games, he stuck

(02:23:44):
with some of the team's mainstays instead of playing the
trade deadline editions of players like Christian Vasquez and first
baseman trade Mancini. He's quoted here nobody wanted Juli Guriel
to play, Baker told Miller. Nobody wanted Maldy to catch,
which I do remember that part the operations. People didn't
want Jeremy Pania to bat second either. But I've got

(02:24:07):
to do what I think is right. You know, I
am a numbers man too. I've always used numbers.

Speaker 9 (02:24:12):
Always go with your gut ninety five percent of the time,
go with your gut.

Speaker 7 (02:24:16):
That's what I always say.

Speaker 9 (02:24:18):
I completely understand that you got take those risks, especially
when you have an opportunity to etch out your Hall
of Fame worthy career with the one thing that's missing
from the resume a World Series title. You've been to
the Championship multiple times, You've had the opportunity to raise
the Commissioner's Trophy. This may be your last shot. Trust

(02:24:39):
your gut. What's your gut tell you? Go make these moves.
Go have Jimmy Pangan bat second. Go build your lineup
in a way that is going to be completely complex
or out of left field or unorthodox, or completely what
the numbers are saying against you. But it's your team
and it's your shot. I promise you, if you trust
your gut more, it often in the right direction.

Speaker 8 (02:25:01):
Well, and he even continues too to your point, because
he says, talking about the numbers, I don't use them
one hundred percent. There are no absolutes in this game period,
whether I go with my feelings or whether I go
with the numbers, there are no absolutes because the opposition
can change your absolute formula by a Homer, Blooper or walk,
whatever it might be. He's not wrong there, and I

(02:25:21):
think that's a huge reason why Dusty made the old
manager popular again, because remember, baseball is just like any
other sports. You go through cycles where everybody repeats what
the winners are doing. In football, it's the same deal.
You know, the the Rams win the Super Bowl with
the young hotshot coach Sean McVay. So let's start plucking
away from his coaching tree because he obviously is a

(02:25:43):
hell of a coach and he must trust that these
guys are great coaches, so they're gonna come in here,
they're gonna be great.

Speaker 9 (02:25:47):
Well, how many times have we seen a Nick Staven
coaching tree happen in the SEC.

Speaker 7 (02:25:50):
And there's only one that has worked out exactly.

Speaker 9 (02:25:53):
That's the point is that you think it's gonna work,
it doesn't always translate.

Speaker 7 (02:25:57):
Sometimes being the one of one does.

Speaker 8 (02:25:58):
Because I mean that's what we saw in baseball for
the longest time, is these analytics driven guys, Hey, what's
their playing experience?

Speaker 7 (02:26:05):
Not much?

Speaker 8 (02:26:06):
You know, what's their managerial experience? Same deal, But you
know they understand the numbers, They understand how that all
goes in the Dusties point, He's not wrong. There's a
reason why those guys would lose. The Dodgers just by
sheer force are starting to win the World Series and
starting to have the success that they're having in spite
of Dave Roberts, who I think has improved as a manager.

(02:26:27):
I'm not taking that away from him, but for the
longest time, they were so analytically driven at everything that
the analytics will get you to a certain point. But
it's also when it's such a small sample size and
such a small margin of error, like the postseason is,
they'll also get you beat.

Speaker 9 (02:26:43):
I'll tell you a name that really stands out, and
you can tell a difference within one year, and it's
all analytics based. The second the Los Angeles Chargers hired
Brandon Staley, and he came out and he took the
presser and he said, we're gonna do this by what
the numbers tell us. Instantaneously knew you're gonna be fire
within four years, because that's not the way to win football.

(02:27:04):
And then, of course you have the moment where you
could have just taken the field goal.

Speaker 7 (02:27:08):
Tied the game, I won the game.

Speaker 9 (02:27:10):
Both of you and the Raiders would have gone to
the playoffs that year, but you went for it on
fourth down.

Speaker 7 (02:27:15):
Well, the numbers say that this would have been the reason.
Well the numbers.

Speaker 9 (02:27:18):
That will to stop with the numbers, dork, Just do
the damn play that helps you win.

Speaker 7 (02:27:23):
What happened the second that he was fired.

Speaker 9 (02:27:26):
Jim Harbaugh, old school coach, old school mentality comes out
to Los Angeles, ten plus wins, a playoff appearance, and
he's in the running to be coach of the year
every single season.

Speaker 8 (02:27:36):
Well, and that's why, you know, Dusty made it popular
for Bruce Bochi to make a return. I mean, for
you know, Brian Snicker in Atlanta. I mean, even though
he was in the job before Dusty got here. But
you get my point is that team started to look
at these guys again and say, okay, look, we understand
how important the numbers are. We understand how the analytics
are going to play out and how they can help

(02:27:58):
you win ball games. It might help you a game
or two, but for the most part, you're going to
win because of the guys you have on the field
and somebody who is able to direct the guys on
the field. And look, I was one of the ones
and still am to a certain point. When you see
how will you're a bray you is now with the
Red Sox, it's not a Dusty Baker thing that's on
the organization for making that trade. It's focusing on the

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result and not exactly what you were doing at the time.
They brought Christian Vasquez in here because they felt like
they could get an offensive, an offensive boost out of
him as opposed to what you have out of Martin Maldonado.
I mean, we knew that out of Maldonado. Any type
of offense out of him was an added bonus.

Speaker 9 (02:28:36):
Also the development of players. Like one thing that we've
noticed with the swing technique in Boston is that it's
completely different than Houston and Bragman. We've seen that success
a bray you we seen that success and hindsight's always
twenty twenty. Like a bray you hit in two point
fifty eight with sixteen home runs right now is working
because of what he has in Boston that may not
have been the case in Houston. You don't know what

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retrospect history tells you. Murphy's a guy I absolutely love
as a manager. Old school players, kind of co players,
kind of manager defending the mentality of the player. And
everyone was like last season Milwaukee was gonna throw out
the face here with because Craig Council didn't want to resign.

Speaker 7 (02:29:13):
And he goes to Chicago.

Speaker 9 (02:29:14):
They win the division and they're the most complete team
in the NL Central and there's buy in from the
clubhouse because of the manager. There are certain managers that
just bring an element to the game of whether it
be passion, whether it be understanding, whether it be I've
been in this situation before because I played the position,
or just able to get the best version of a
player that you want.

Speaker 7 (02:29:36):
And at times Dusty was frustrating, But.

Speaker 9 (02:29:39):
There was also times that Dusty said, I'm going to
do it my way because I remember how it was done.

Speaker 7 (02:29:43):
Watss go ahead and win a title in twenty twenty two.
We did.

Speaker 8 (02:29:46):
Yeah, thank god for that good pitching you had that year,
because that was the thing that was that put you
in a position to be able to win it in
six games. And that's exactly what the Stros did and
thank you jord On still to this day. All right,
coming up next, the most unpopular man in sports, Well,
he seems like he has given the people what they want.

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Will explain what we mean right here to close out
this edition of The Shawn Salisbury Show, The Matt Thomas
Show with Ross coming up next ten to two. Right here,
Sports Talk seven ninety This is.

Speaker 7 (02:30:18):
The Sean Salisbury Show. Salisbury's dutiful.

Speaker 8 (02:30:24):
But calling you Gody, I think we'll go with either
Chris or Gordy or Chris Gordy, Chris, either one. I mean,
you are on the Boss, so I mean there is that,
but I mean I was just saying, you know, I'm
talking to you like being from somebody from southern Louisiana,
you know, because you don't pronounce your rs.

Speaker 7 (02:30:38):
Well, it's funny. In New Orleans, we grew like a
lot of people.

Speaker 19 (02:30:41):
You go to Catholic school and every you had to
wear a uniform, and on the uniform you have your
name monogram, first initial on last name.

Speaker 7 (02:30:48):
Really, so that's how everybody.

Speaker 19 (02:30:50):
You kind of know everybody by their last name, and
so everybody that's where it's oh yeah, that's Gordy.

Speaker 7 (02:30:55):
That's what everybody knew me as.

Speaker 19 (02:30:56):
And then when I ended up in Baton Ridge, there
was a guy named named Gordy Rush that was there,
big radio guy, and people thought my name was Gordy.
But I'm like, no, that's the last name, right. So
it's just one of those one of those things. But
but yeah, you would have been Matthews. You would have
been you probably would have been cold because Thompson's.

Speaker 9 (02:31:12):
Too I say, it's way too common.

Speaker 7 (02:31:14):
I would have been cold. Yeah, C. Thompson. But I
hate that. I'm sorry. I do.

Speaker 9 (02:31:19):
Like that's the one that I can't stand with. This's
the first in your last name.

Speaker 7 (02:31:23):
The Matthews like an author. C.

Speaker 9 (02:31:25):
Thompson thoms you better have a second last name. It
sounds like a really nice restaurant.

Speaker 12 (02:31:30):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (02:31:30):
The Astros lineup, Gordy, what the hell? Man?

Speaker 10 (02:31:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (02:31:34):
Ahead of Buddy text me last night and goes, did
did Paul Skeens pitch again tonight?

Speaker 7 (02:31:38):
Like it's like, yeah, it's almost reversed.

Speaker 19 (02:31:40):
It's almost like they should have lost the Paul Skeens game,
but they lose the the Burroughs game.

Speaker 7 (02:31:45):
What's that? Who's that guy? Yeah, Mike Burrows. Yeah, I
just you know, it is what it is.

Speaker 19 (02:31:50):
It's the reality is I thought, all right, maybe you'd
maybe you'd just take two out of three in Pittsburgh
last night. Offense non existence. So tonight fromber on the
you feel really good about him against that Pittsburgh offense,
you know, offense holding them down. You just need to
your offense needs to find a way, find a way
score some runs tonight. And I think with from bron

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the Mountain be you should be okay, it's still.

Speaker 9 (02:32:14):
Too early, and I get it that you don't want
to panic just yet when it comes to your pitching staff.
But Ryan Gusto four to third, three in runs, when
you had this conversation about the future of the lineup
and his role, do you think that this is a
point where we have to start conversating he's a great
pitcher for two innings.

Speaker 7 (02:32:35):
We need to move into the bullpen.

Speaker 9 (02:32:36):
Let's have that conversation with Spencer again he gets back.
Are we gonna go out, maybe spend a little bit
more to get a fourth, fourth starter in the rotation.

Speaker 19 (02:32:44):
Well, I mean, I still think you have some options
in house, you know, I think you have aj blue
Ball who obviously made that one start. It wasn't great,
but I'll almost be willing to give him a shot here.
I'm with you, the Gusto thing. He started the season
as in the bullpen, then became a starter, then went
back to the bullpen, now as a starter again. I

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thought maybe it was an issue of getting him stretched out.
He stretched out, you know, it's he could. It's not
a matter of pitch cow with him anymore. Eighty three
this game, he three eighty three last game. He just
can't his control. He loses, uh, loses track of attacking
the zone. I thought he attacked his zone a little
bit more last night and it bit him. They were

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getting hits, you know they were, they were ripping them.
But yeah, this is this is now three straight starts
where he can't even get you through five. That's not
good for the guy who's kind of your number four.
I mean, I almost wanted you flip him at Colton Gordon.

Speaker 7 (02:33:40):
Colton Gordon.

Speaker 19 (02:33:40):
At least he's given you five every time out, so
he's almost your number four right now. But I don't know.
I just I look at him and say, you're right.
I mean, is his role better serve of going to
the bullpen. Do you bring back a Brandon Walter who
had a nice what he went five innings the West start,
he had five shutout innstinued to pitch.

Speaker 7 (02:33:58):
I'd look at blue ball.

Speaker 19 (02:33:59):
Obviously, Miguel Iloa has been pictured very well in triple A.

Speaker 7 (02:34:03):
So you know, I think they're going to go in house.

Speaker 19 (02:34:06):
I just anybody who's saying, like, make a trade, make
a trade, I say, what are you giving up? You
have to give something up to get something, and this like,
you've worked so hard to rebuild this farm system back,
you really want to give away more pieces again? Like
it just I don't know, it's it's it's a tough
situation they're in. And yes, if I'm if I'm Dana,

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I'm on the phone every day with Ragetty going hey.

Speaker 7 (02:34:28):
Bud, how's the phone? Hey Bud? Getting it closer.

Speaker 9 (02:34:31):
So what's interesting is that Dan and I were talking
about this. Tuesday, Jacob Mountain gets called up. He's batten
in the nine hole, left handed bat. He adds good
value defensively, he can play multiple spots. But is he
the next Joey low Perffito where you're calling him up
to kind of get a taste of the MLB to
win July rolls around. Maybe you are shipping him off
elsewhere to go get that picture to add to the
back end of irritation.

Speaker 7 (02:34:52):
I think he's he's different than low Perfito.

Speaker 19 (02:34:54):
Low Perfito was like, you're I'm trying to remember what
was he ranked, like the eighth or ninth best prospect
six ers. Yeah, Jacob Melton is your number two prospect.
I mean it's Pryce Matthews and him. This is a
name we've talked about for a couple of years as
the one of the future outfielders. The other one was
the guy they traded to the Mets for verlind Cliff

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Gilbert from Tesse. Uh So, yeah, I almost think like, no,
I think he's here to stay. And you know, you
kind of look at Jake Myers and and Chas McCormick
as you get you know, Jake's doing his thing, but
Chaz like, hey man, sorry, we went to the next man.
And with Altuve playing left and Jordan whenever he gets

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backs in a place and left like, I think, uh,
I think Melton is kind of he's kind of here
to stay. And it's if cam Smith is going to
be your future right field everyday right fielder. You know,
whatever happens in the future with Jacob Jake Myers, I
think that's Jacob Melton.

Speaker 8 (02:35:49):
Spot got about a minute to go, and it's a
two parter here. Obviously, I want to allow you to
get a shout out to our good friends over at
car Bock Brewing. But we're past the point of Christian
Walker in the four hole hitter for this team, right.

Speaker 19 (02:36:02):
I've been saying it for weeks and yet they keep
rolling him out there. So it's tough, man. I mean
two oh eight zero for four to three strikeouts last night.
I know we had every time he has a hit
in the game, we're like, oh, there it is, it's
turn around. No, it's just like a you know, blind
squirrel every now and then he walks across a nut.
But that's that's who he is right now. It's it's

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it's frustrating. Yander Diaz, you know, was picking it up
then he kind of backed off. He had two hits
last night, so I'd almost rather yes, slide him down
and whether it's Yander Diaz, Victor Kertini, heck, even Jake Myers,
give somebody else a chance. Up up in the linup
it slide him down, take a little bit of pressure
off of him.

Speaker 7 (02:36:40):
A bat him six.

Speaker 8 (02:36:41):
Man, I've said it, take the pressure off him, and
maybe you kind of wear down the picture at that point.

Speaker 19 (02:36:45):
And I think once you move the six or seven,
watch I bet he starts hitting. I bet he bats
three hundred in that spot.

Speaker 7 (02:36:50):
Like that works for me. The expectations come down a
little bit too for what you got to ask.

Speaker 8 (02:36:54):
Yeah, one hundred percent better than what you've been getting. Hey,
shout out to the fine folks at Carbok Brewing.

Speaker 7 (02:36:59):
Man.

Speaker 19 (02:36:59):
Yeah, I I have a mini fridge upstairs where my
TV room, and I was cleaning it out yesterday and
I have plenty of Crawford back and there. I still
have a couple of palols in there as well. But
make sure your fridg just like my fridge stopped with
plenty of the Crawford bock goes perfectly with watching the
Astros while they're on the road and when they come
back home next week at DIYK and Park, we'll be
having some some more Crawford box and enjoining the ice

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cold taste of that Crawford box from Carbon Burrowing.

Speaker 8 (02:37:21):
Yeah, we got the NBA Finals Tona. I got Super
Regionals happening over the weekend. Astros taking on the Guardians
to playoff contenders. A lot of fun, a lot of fun. Gordy,
you're the best man. Appreciate it as always him, Man,
I'm sticking around. Matt Thomas is out today. Oh all right,
go all right, So it's gonna be Gody and Ross
here on the Matt Thomas Show with Ross. But Cole

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appreciate it as always, buddy. I'm outreas tent for sure.
Cole Thompson in today for Sean Ari, Alexander KPRC two
hanging out with us tomorrow, Triple E, Emmanuel Elmore.

Speaker 7 (02:37:52):
I'm Dan Matthews.

Speaker 8 (02:37:54):
It is the Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
We will talk to you in twenty hours right here
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