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May 16, 2025 • 160 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury. Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
To usc Troup's longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Dan matthewscuse, this is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Here's the O two got him, strike three, good heat
away ninety nine on that fastball, and he gets Desenzo
for the third out.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
Here's a one one and that's hit out of right
center field. Myers on his horse and that ball is
gone into the Rangers bullpen Jake Berger Holmers and it's
one nothing, Rangers Burger's fourth of the year.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
The one one shot up the middle. Pay you're raging
has it gets up A thousand men want to play
by Jeremy Payne. The gold glow sliding behind second phase
in the outfield turf gets up and throws out Peterson
by a.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Step first pitch, and that's popped up third base side
toward the line in the foul territory Paradeus makes the
catch between the bag and the coaches box, and the
side is retired. Eight innings of one run ball for
Hunter Brown, his longest outing as a professional. Here's a
one to one and that's popped up shallow right side.

(01:30):
Simeon over going back Burger. It's Simeon makes the catch
a step into the outfield, and that is the ball game,
a pitcher's duel, and it's Jacob de Gram besting Hunter
Brown Rangers with a one nothing win in the first
game of this four game series.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
All you need to know right there what Robert Ford
just told you. And with that we say away we go,
and good morning here on the Sean Salisbury Show again.
Sean out today. Cole Thompson in for Sean. But the
Astros dropped the opener up there in Arlington to the Rangers.
Of course, we'll get into that PGA Championship Former Texas
Longhord Jonathan Vegas.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
The leader after round one. He is seven under.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
He's got a two stroke lead there after eighteen holes,
and the Nuggets forcing a Game seven with a win
last night over the Thunder in Denver. That's coming up
on Sunday. But Cole, I mean we've already alluded to
it once last night, once this morning. The frustrations still mount,
and I mean we'll get into it as the show
goes along, even more into detail.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
But it's just.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
It's kind of the whose song and meet the old Boss,
same as the old boss, you know, and meet the
new boss same as the old boss.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
You get it. The coffee hasn't hit whatever, But you
get my point.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
I mean, it's it's games like this time and time again,
where we continuously asked the following morning, where are the bats?

Speaker 7 (03:00):
Morning, Dan Matthews, I would say good, but there's nothing
good about this morning.

Speaker 8 (03:04):
You know.

Speaker 7 (03:04):
I try to drive on in. It was a Hawaiian Friday.
We got donuts in here. It's great to be able
to start off the weekend on the right note.

Speaker 6 (03:11):
But how can you celebrate?

Speaker 7 (03:13):
How can you celebrate when you waste a perfect pitching
performance like that from Hunter Brown? And the problem is, Robert,
you know I love you. You know I think that
you are the bes needs that you.

Speaker 6 (03:23):
Were the best in the business. It wasn't a pitcher's duel.

Speaker 7 (03:26):
It was the Astros failing once again to ever give
run support. Few teams have as dominant as pitching as
a one to two combination. It is a lethal injection.
Whenever from ber Valdez and Hunter Brown take the field.
You know that they're gonna give you seven strong you
know they're gonna get you eight strikeouts. You know that
they're gonna hold you to a one run game, and

(03:49):
if you got to give up a long ball, okay,
you make one mistake, that was it. Dan Matthews, one
mistake last night, a Jake Whopper double quarter pounder to
write center.

Speaker 6 (04:00):
Field, and that was your game.

Speaker 7 (04:03):
The Astros didn't find a way to be outdueled by
Jacob Gram, who, by the way, had a good performance.
Let's not sure code it give me eight inings. We
saw vintage shakeup de Gram, the one that the Rangers
paid for when they sign him back in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
We saw that version, but.

Speaker 7 (04:18):
We also saw the same mediocrity that we have seen
throughout the entire year that we've been questioning for weeks.

Speaker 6 (04:25):
Now, why are.

Speaker 7 (04:26):
You making these same decisions, Joe Espada, Why are you
not making changes to the lineup, Because if you know
what's going to happen, these operators is gonna get on,
Christian Walker is gonna get out. You have questions when
it comes to the bottom of your lineup, whether it
be Mauricio Dubon, who's gonna choke up on the bat
and be first pit swinging. You know that Jose Al
Tube is gonna be aggressive this second day, steps into.

Speaker 6 (04:48):
The box and what did we see last night?

Speaker 7 (04:51):
The same old vintage ash shows that we come and
hear every morning and complain about.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
It's beyond frustrating because of you know how old.

Speaker 7 (05:00):
This was a game that you needed. You know, this
was a game that you could have had. This was
a game that probably should have been in your favor.
But the ineptitude and the constant bickeringness, and I would say,
probably more importantly, the sheer negativity and narcissism to not
make changes cost the Ashers a game out in Arlington.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
I can't be celebrating today on a Hawaiian Friday.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
Well, I mean, you can absolutely celebrate what Hunter Brown
did because he was masterful. He was really good. And
I don't want to take away from what Jacob deGrom did.
He was awesome last night. He was spotting up the fastball,
and I mean the fact that you know, you struggled
against him wasn't necessarily that surprising from that standpoint, but
you still had your chances right. And this is I mean,

(05:43):
this is playoff level baseball. And what I'm about to
say sounds very simple on the surface, but it's just
the truth about this team. Any any decent enough good
pitching shuts this lineup down.

Speaker 6 (05:57):
That's a problem.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
That's a massive problem, because you're talking about, oh, we
can win the West so we can get into the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (06:02):
We can make a run in the playoffs. Not with
this lineup.

Speaker 7 (06:05):
You can't make You can't win the West with this
lineup right now, because if here's the problem, you know,
Seattle has good pitching.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
Texas damn. This was a preview for.

Speaker 7 (06:14):
The weekend because if guess what you get to go
up against Nathan Navaldi, one of the better pitchers in
the young pitchers, Jack Lder depending on what version you
get of him, and Timy Moley like like, those are
three names too that can put up seven quality innings.

Speaker 6 (06:28):
And then Jack Lighter on Sunday.

Speaker 7 (06:30):
And the problem is that what version of Jack Lader
are you getting? Are you getting good version of bad version?
Because hopefully for us we get the bad version, but
there is a good version out there sure, And that's
the frustrating part is that there still is a way
for this to be the norm where you're gonna have
runners in scoring position, You're gonna walk out of Arlington
with an zero to four record. You're gonna be swept,
but you're also gonna have a league leading strikeouts for

(06:51):
the weekend because of that's what great pitching does against
this lineup. And we've seen it constantly, and we've seen
it against this direct lineup where I mean thing is
bat in first, where Christian Walker's still in the four hole,
where you are putting Kratini in the six hole, and
then you put Mauricio Dubon in the nine. It's the
same lineup, and you see the results. Any great pitching

(07:11):
staff is gonna have their way with that with the
ashes right now.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
Well, I mean that's the way it's been for about
the last year and a half. I mean we saw,
you know, the two games that you had against the Tigers.
I mean you were able to score what two runs
in the first game, two runs in the second. I mean,
it's just colds to the point where I'm done, you know,
sticking up for this lineup. Oh when they get hot,
all of these different things. You don't get the benefit
of the doubt.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
You're bad.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
You're a bad lineup. Like I'm just I'm gonna go
ahead lay it out there as simple as that. You're
a bad lineup. You're an underperforming you're a lineup that
continuously fails this team, and you don't find ways to
be able to win ball games.

Speaker 6 (07:48):
You find ways to do just enough.

Speaker 7 (07:50):
Okay, I want to say it's a bad lineup, I'll
say it is a mid lineup, and it's a mid
lineup for a team that you expect to be in there.

Speaker 6 (07:55):
By their standards.

Speaker 7 (07:56):
Is why I'm going that it's a bad line That's fine,
but I'm sick and tired of hearing Oh, you know,
they're so close, They're so close all their timing.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
They've been so close for two and a half years now.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
And when you talk about this team losing games, it
ain't because of the pitching. Let's just say, for the
sake of argument, we came in here this morning and
we said Astros lose ten to nothing last night. What
are probably most people at someone three two one, two
five seven ninety complaining about, Oh, Hunter Brown was terrible?

Speaker 6 (08:23):
Really, Hunter Brown was terrible? Did you not hear the
last part of that no runs whatsoever?

Speaker 5 (08:29):
Like when do we honestly start to put the blame
on them and start to honestly yell into the microphone,
hit the damn ball.

Speaker 7 (08:36):
Do you know how many times there was an O
two countra Farson scoring position last night eleven. Do you
have any times they got actually a contact with the
ball once put in play?

Speaker 6 (08:47):
That's the problem.

Speaker 7 (08:48):
That's the problem, Dan Matthews, is that you can't even
make contact. You're late on your swings, you're late at
your approach. Pictures are mowing you down, and they're thank
getting you. They can go ahead and throw you in
eighty six miles slider and they already know they've won
the battle.

Speaker 6 (09:05):
Before you've even taken the plate. That's the problem, Dan.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Well, it's also too I mean, as Josh c put
on the screen and I heard Ross mention this last night,
we hadn't even got to the Christian Walker part of
all of this. But Christian Walker this season with runners
in scoring position, how many strikeouts?

Speaker 6 (09:21):
Forty one at bats? Twenty strikeouts?

Speaker 7 (09:23):
Literally half the time he's going up pictures now that
he's going out, so by all means, continue to bat
him clean up?

Speaker 6 (09:30):
When is the move going to happen? When?

Speaker 7 (09:33):
I mean, honestly, do you want to win the series?

Speaker 6 (09:36):
This is the the and the fact.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
That yesterday before the game that Soulless franchise decide to
post a video talking about how we wear textas on
our sh.

Speaker 6 (09:48):
Like it was just a snoozefest.

Speaker 7 (09:50):
Of mediocrity at your at your disposal, the fact that
that team has a one to zero lead against you,
when your ace just delivered as perfect as performance as
you could ask for, minus a slider that decided to
go ahead and hit the second deck of a fake
dyke in park. Besides that, that's what you expect, because

(10:10):
if you refuse to make changes, you refuse to do anything.
It could simply be one move, Yiner, you're going in
the four hole. Christian, you're going in the five hole.
The numbers back up that when he's not in the
four hole, you get some productivity. Any productivity at this
point would be welcomed. Anything to know that, hey, paying
is on first, you get Eastipe parades up, we're walking parades.

(10:33):
People are now walking parades or excited to see parades,
get on base because they know who's waiting.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
Right behind him. That's infuriating as an organization.

Speaker 7 (10:42):
That's one furiating for a team that you and I
both know is better than what's being put out there.

Speaker 6 (10:46):
But honestly, is it is it?

Speaker 7 (10:48):
At this point or is this what we can't expect
for the rest this season because we had one hundred more.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
Games of this Well, I mean that's just the frustrating
part of all of it is. I mean, as I
even mentioned last year, where you continue did this and
it even goes back to the playoffs the year before,
I mean, in the final two games against the Rangers,
that seemingly is what started this tailspan for this lineup
of not being able to recapture that aggressiveness and being
able to capture that ability to be able to come

(11:14):
through in clutch spots, the clutch geam. This team doesn't
have it right now at the plate.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
They don't.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
And I mean, I don't know if it's something that
can be regained, but it's just something that whenever there's
runners in scoring positions. I mean, here, I'll give you
a good one, good Buddy Dez with Apollo A Paulo Media.
You know, the one hundred guerrillas against one or the
other way around. Yeah, there you go. It was one
hundred Astros against the bases loaded. Oh, it's easily the

(11:40):
bases loader winning that one.

Speaker 7 (11:42):
Every single time they're winning that one, they're they're not
working counts in their favorite either then they had two
walks last night, two, they had four batters, reached three
two counts and it all came in the second inning.
I mean, like that was your ending to attack against
Jacob Deagram. And then once he got in his rhythm
one he got out of a jam. Congratulations. He was

(12:02):
off to being the same little bit of Jade's the
ground that we saw when he was back in New York.

Speaker 6 (12:06):
That's frustrating.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Well, I mean there's much more that we can get
into on this. And again, phone numbers right there for
you if you wanted someone three two one two five
seven ninety again someone three two one two five seven ninety.
I mean, Cole Tripoli, at least we got donuts and
Colotchi's right, and we got that going for us. So
maybe that's something that could be a good vibe change
for the weekend. All right, let's just go ahead and

(12:28):
take the positive side of it, all right. I understand
that Cole is angry. It's fine. I think everybody should
be ac two over here, you know, angry Cole.

Speaker 6 (12:38):
It's fine. It's all right, It's okay. I like that,
Nick Dame.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
You know, we'll let you have it, but also two
on the show today, the Legend that almost wasn't will
let you hear what we mean on that Brits visits
an sec staple and we also have a very very
interesting Salisbury steak out for you here about an hour
from now out but coming up next. The numbers are

(13:03):
visible for you to see with this astros lineup and
the message as clear as day. We'll talk about it here.
It is the Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 9 (13:12):
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Speaker 6 (13:34):
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Speaker 1 (14:40):
The Houston sports World, Yes, Sean Salisbury knows how to
play the game because he really played the game. Yeah,
former prol QB right here. He actually has it on
his name tag former pro QB right here. Back to
Sean on Sports Talk seven ninety and I mean the

(15:01):
first part is what covers it all?

Speaker 6 (15:03):
It's a Friday.

Speaker 7 (15:04):
I mean, yeah, Lil Dan took a big a. It
was a big ahl last night. I thought that was
my only problem because it was.

Speaker 6 (15:09):
Again Jacob Degram, it was.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
It was vintage Jacob and Andy du Fraine had to
crawl through a mile of you know what to get
through to the other side. And once he did, he
got down to Mexico and then finally Morgan Freeman met
him down there and they were best buddies for the
rest of their days, just throwing nuts into the water
and fishing and having fun and doing all those different
types of things. I mean, let's not you know, gloss

(15:32):
over the fact that Andy du frame was a convicted
murderer twice.

Speaker 6 (15:35):
How about the fact that he went to a place
called Zee What the Najo? I have no idea where
that is that. That's the name of the city that
they went to in Mexico. Is that where they went?
I think somewhere on the on the Baja See.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
For all of the weird movie knowledge that I have,
that is one that I would never have see.

Speaker 6 (15:53):
Okay, well, I don't even know if it's true.

Speaker 7 (15:54):
I saw on a Family Guy episode, and so I'm
thinking that Family Guy could have usually SETH McFarland's pretty
spot on. I'm gonna look it up at this point
and figure it out if I was just BS and.

Speaker 6 (16:03):
Or was I actually so a guy I used to
work with.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
It was the college football show that I was on
that Do you know what Charlie Sheen's character's name was
in Ferris Bueler's Day Off for the brief character that
he had at the end, Garth Volbeck?

Speaker 6 (16:19):
Was it? Really? That's what?

Speaker 5 (16:20):
Yeah, the guy I worked with, that's what he said
him as Garth Volbeck, and I stopped him. I go, wait,
what was Charlie's name? He goes, I don't did he
ever even say that his name was Garth or anything
like that? He goes, No, it's the way he was
on the credits. You wear too much eye makeup. You
look like a whore? Does your My sister wears too
much eye makeup?

Speaker 7 (16:38):
So Ac and I were talking yesterday about back to
the Future, and we kept making references about Lea Thompson
Eric Stultz. He had no idea that Eric Stultz was
the original. He was supposed to get it, I know,
and that's my favorite movie of all time, and so
like I'm grilling him for an hour afterwards. How the
hell do you know all these pop culture references? You
talked so highly of QB and the news being in

(16:59):
like your time, and just tell.

Speaker 6 (17:01):
The movies he Lewis in the news, and we'll get
it right. By the way, it's heey Lewis in the news.

Speaker 7 (17:06):
Get it right, well, get it right that they that
they fired Eric Stultz for good reason, because that they
want a great movie out of him.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
You besmirch the great songbird of our generation, Huey Lewis.
Like that again, I'm gonna ask you to turn your
mic off and hop out fair enough. All right, that's fair.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
There we go. Jaking the gram was awesome last night.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
Yeah, Unfortunately for the Astros, he was. And we can
get into that if you want to. Seven one three, two,
one two five seven ninety good seguey by yous. The
Astros dropped that one last night, won nothing to the Rangers.
Jonathan Vegas. You know he lives out in the Woodlands.
He's a Texas guy, and uh, I think good buddies
with Jose a l two van No sponsored by Major
League Baseball, Venezuela guy. But he's your leader at Quail

(17:45):
Hollow at the PGA Championship. He's at seven under and
the Nuggets last night able to force a game seven
against the Thunder on a Sunday, And that's one of
those two, you know, just before we get back to
the astros here, I was thinking about that last night.
Which game I think I want ant Man against joke
Her much more than I want ant Man against SGA.

Speaker 6 (18:02):
Who doesn't want that matchup.

Speaker 7 (18:03):
And the reason I say that is because of You're
gonna get the two best players for an opportunity for
ant Man to finish the Gauntlet.

Speaker 6 (18:12):
He is the killer. He is straight up Thanos.

Speaker 7 (18:15):
Right now, he is collecting the rings of past MVPs stones, stones,
my apologies. He's collecting the stones of the past MVPs.

Speaker 6 (18:24):
NERD Radio is gonna be upset.

Speaker 7 (18:26):
I know it is, I would say with myself because
I'm a huge MC you guys, so I'm even more
pissed off but still.

Speaker 6 (18:31):
Now you strike me as a DC guy. But that's okay.
Do you see the new Do you see the new
trailer for that for Superman? I did not.

Speaker 7 (18:37):
It's fantastic. That is my Superman. Now, don't move over,
Brandon Rauth. Nobody cares about you anymore. Nobody did anyways
back in two thousand and seven.

Speaker 6 (18:44):
Anyways, Hat Cavill is the man. But go ahead. I
don't want you to be deterred.

Speaker 7 (18:48):
You have You already have Lebron, you already have Luca,
You're about ready to I mean, you already have Steph,
you have Draymond, you could take down Joker, and then
depending on what is your pathway, whether it be Tom
Thibadau and the Knicks or somehow Boston finds a way
to get a winning Game six, then they move to
Game seven, they pull off the upset, you get them.

(19:09):
I'm pulling for Ann at this point because of you
and I both know this as a as a guy
from the SEC that I don't think many people thought
was gonna go to Georgia, decided to bet on himself.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
Still was the.

Speaker 7 (19:20):
Number one overall pick and eventually became the face of
the organization that has been such a dumpster fire for
the last twenty years in a city that hasn't won
a championship, been to a championship almost in my lifetime.
Can you imagine how uproyous it would be for him
to be able to bring home the title.

Speaker 6 (19:40):
It'd be pretty awesome.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
And I think that, you know, the NBA in terms
of trying to salvage things where I mean, you know,
the Knicks probably going to end up winning this thing
and moving on and.

Speaker 6 (19:50):
Facing the Pacers. Do you think that the Knicks win tonight?
I think they probably do. I think they lose.

Speaker 7 (19:56):
I think the NBA is trying to make sure that
the ratings stay up at this peak.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
Well, I mean, there's there's no benefit for them doing that.
I think that it's and it's weird that we even,
like remotely think that that could be a possibility.

Speaker 6 (20:09):
Dallas get the number one overall.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
Welcome to the NBA, I guess, but I just I
think that if you if you were to ask people
blindly in the NBA League offices, Knicks or Celtics to
move on, the majority of them, even though they're in
New York. It doesn't matter that they're in New York City.
They would say Nicks because I mean it's great fan base, heritage,

(20:32):
The NBA is always better when the Knicks are good,
you know all the things that.

Speaker 7 (20:35):
You also have the better player right now to represent
with Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 6 (20:39):
Who used to be a Maverick. Yeah, exactly. Congratulations.

Speaker 7 (20:42):
Another dumb move by Dallas, even though they got a
good win last night, but they did.

Speaker 6 (20:46):
On the ice. Well, I had to root for Canada
last night.

Speaker 8 (20:49):
Dan.

Speaker 7 (20:49):
I had to root for Canada so that way I
could sleep well knowing that Dallas took it out somewhere.

Speaker 10 (20:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
That's uh, that's a part of sports that I got
to be honest with you.

Speaker 6 (20:59):
Years ago left me. But I mean Thrashers left us,
like left Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
I mean even before that, I mean I was mostly
you know, hockey, like in the mid nineties, late nineties,
and then after that kind of tapered off a little bit.
But I mean, I know what's going on. I know
it's out there, and look, I've said it numerous times.
You bring an NHL franchise here, I'm buying season tickets. Oh, like,
I will buy the sweater. I will do it all.
I will get back in the hockey. If you bring

(21:24):
an NHL team here to this city.

Speaker 7 (21:25):
I will gladly for free do every pre and post
game show right here on SPORTSOX seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
If we don't say that too loud, Do not ever
say that too loud. See what the nahill was? Actually
the name of the city being somebody? It really was.
It was interesting.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
Okay, he's right there, he's got the rickety old wooden
boat right there.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
And then Morgan Freeman shows up.

Speaker 7 (21:43):
I don't know how to do my taxes, but I
remember the city of a Mexican town that Andy Dufraye
decided to meet.

Speaker 6 (21:48):
Up with, which I mean, does it even exist? Is
it even a real place? Yeah? It actually is?

Speaker 5 (21:52):
Okay, well fair enough, I mean I guess there is
much more than just Cabo and San Lucas right there
on the Baja Straight. But regardless, do you think one
that you prefer more of the town's Yeah, I mean
Cabo itself, I've never been, uh. I mean, it's fun,
it's it's awesome. I mean we we went over to
San Lucas and it's straight up town. It's Cobo's the

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touristy side.

Speaker 7 (22:14):
Yeah, I figured I've only been to Mexico City and Gualahara,
so I've been to that was like for like a
stop off on a cruise ship.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
Never been on those sides. But I've been to basically
southern Orange County down there. It's funny too, Like the
the first time I was gonna go ask a buddy
of mine, I was like, hey, you know, like, do
I need to like, you know, change over my currency.
He goes, no, dude, it's basically Orange County down there,
Like you'll be fine, trust me.

Speaker 6 (22:36):
And I was just like, okay, So I stuck with it.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
But anyway, all right, let's get back into the Astros conversation.
As the numbers they're there, so we will absolutely dive
into them here when it comes to this lineup, and
we'll do that here after the Astros lose one nothing
last night. As we continue here on the Sean Salisbury Show,
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And We're found. The Shawn Salisbury Show continued, and this
was one of the first few I had. Do you
want to rely on quote the back of the baseball card, which,
in fairness, that's not a Joe's spot a line, that's
a Dana Brown line.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
But do you want to rely on the back of
the baseball card? Or do you want to put your
lineup in position to win games? Your choice?

Speaker 7 (24:23):
Do you want to have one chance to drive in
a run? And what could ten send a game to
extras against a bullpen that we have seen this year
be mediocre at times when your bullpen is coming off
of one of its best home stands. Or do you
want to be batting over sixteen with furs in scoring position?

Speaker 6 (24:41):
I'm sorry? Which would you.

Speaker 7 (24:43):
Rather have, Dan Matthews? Would you rather have it an
early night in Arlington? Or is chance to actually take
the division lead?

Speaker 5 (24:48):
Well, I mean and not only you know a chance
to be able to you know better yourself for the
division lead, but I mean just to give yourself a
chance to win a ballgame first and foremost.

Speaker 6 (24:57):
I mean, that's that's the one.

Speaker 5 (24:59):
In last night, the Astros over three with runners in
scoring position, they leave seven on base. I mean the
Rangers had far less chances. The only time they had,
outside of the Jake Berger home run, a runner gets
a second was the Adulus Garcia, who, by.

Speaker 6 (25:12):
The way, God, I hate that guy.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
When are they.

Speaker 7 (25:14):
Gonna finally throw him away in the MLB jail because
if he took steroids.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
When Acey's gotten you too, huh.

Speaker 7 (25:22):
He has his head has shrunken. He literally was a
bobblehead in twenty twenty two. He was a bobblehead in
twenty twenty three. Now it's a normal sized person. That's like,
did you ever see the episode of The Simpsons when
like Homer at the plate and it was like all
the baseball players.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Yes, Griffy and all them, Rodrick Rogers Clemens is the
is the security guard.

Speaker 7 (25:41):
Yeah, yeah, he had gigantism Ken Griffy. So it's like
the kid ended up growing ahead. That was a Doles
in twenty twenty three, Like literally that was him. So
it's like you see his muscle spasms go down, his
swing and misrate has gone up completely. He has one
great hit last night and like it's a oh here
it comes back. Garcia, the grim reaper of the Astros.

(26:03):
It's annoying. Throw him in jail. He cheated, I know
he did. I Where are the bodies, Garth? Is what
I would say to a Dolas Garcia. You know where
the steroids.

Speaker 6 (26:11):
Are, all right?

Speaker 5 (26:12):
So I put up a graphic this morning that was
from Baseball Reference of one of them is batting fourth
and fifth and the other one is batting third through five.

Speaker 6 (26:23):
So fourth and fifth.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
Is Jainar Diaz, and he has eight at bats this
season two fifty batting average, nine fifty eight OPS, batting
fifth two twenty nine five seventy five OPS. Then the
other one third through five. I think we know who
it is batting third. It's Christian Walker six six sixty
seven and A thirteen thirty three ops, three thirty.

Speaker 6 (26:50):
Three A one point zho nine to nine ops.

Speaker 7 (26:54):
Okay, let me put you on the spot right now,
build your top five in the lineup.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Well, but you.

Speaker 5 (27:03):
Right now, I would go Paena one, yep, I'm gonna
go Jake Myers two. Okay, I'll go Paraitis three, Jiner four.

Speaker 6 (27:14):
Al two ve actually I'll go Walker five, Altuove.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
I guess you know, it depends on you know, for
right now you're you're dhing Kartini, So I'll go Carotini six.

Speaker 6 (27:27):
I'll tell you seven.

Speaker 7 (27:29):
I would go Pena one, Parades two, Jiner three. I
mean at Walker three, Jiner four, I'd go Jake Myers five,
and then I would go Caroteni six, hose A seven.

Speaker 6 (27:38):
That's fine, I mean.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
And that's the other part of it, too, is that
Jose Altuve coming into yesterday's game and the two spot,
and I threw this out last night. He's won for
his last twelve, He's three for his last seventeen, has
not hit a home run in the month of May.
And I mean for the greatness that has been moving
Jeremy Peney the leadoff spot, it's been pedestrian at best
for Joseel Twovan.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
As a matter of fact, it's been bad. No, it's
the downs from Joseel two be.

Speaker 7 (28:04):
That's the crazy part is that I don't want to
say the decline is upon us and that we're seeing
the end of an era come to us. But do
you have to start having that conversation or is it
simply he's not hitting in the right hole.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
That's all it is.

Speaker 7 (28:17):
Moving down to six, move down to seven, move down
to five if you have to. Does that end up
bringing back maybe not even vintage jose Al tuo Bay,
Maybe not the one that we're going to see in
the po in the playoffs, maybe not the one that
we're going to see at the All Star Break, but
one that's hitting his weight, one that's able to get
on base, one that's able to not be a negative
for your offensive personnel because of right now, when the

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two hole, it is a negative.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
And the thing is, and I know that Joe spot
I mentioned this yesterday that he talked about this this offseason.
He doesn't want to have, you know, one hundred different lineups,
and last year a lot of it was necessitated by injury.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
I get all of that.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
Moving guys in the lineup is not an admission of failure.
Moving guys in the lineup is a hey, let's find
the best spot for you to be able to perform.
Let's let's find the spot that makes you feel like
you're gonna be at your best at the plate. Because
for all of the things that we've bagged on with
Christian Walker, at the plate at the moment, and there's
plenty of it to do. I mean, that's just a fact.
It's not personal against him, it's just it is what

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it is. He has been really good with the glove
over at first base. No, that's problem.

Speaker 6 (29:19):
That's that's the nice part of it.

Speaker 7 (29:21):
And so you can't be complaining as much as you
want when it comes to oh, the contract doesn't look
up to because if the bat ends up eventually coming around,
he still is giving you gold glove defense where.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
You weren't getting that from the last guy.

Speaker 7 (29:33):
Which again that's the problem when it's like, oh, oh
a Bray you two point zero flying out to Love.
I was like, yeah, but a Bray you didn't offer
you anything defensively. At least you got that with Christian Walker.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
Now you definitely do have that, and I mean that's
one bright spot that you have. But I mean, when
coming into this season, the concern was gonna be with
the outfield. I mean, the outfield for the most part
has been fine. Where you've got it as a platoon
situation right now between camp Smith and Zach Decenzo, which
I also think is kind of a mistake. I just
I think if you're going to have cam Smith and

(30:06):
or Zach Dezenzo up here, play them, play them both.

Speaker 7 (30:08):
Oh, I send one down right now, and I would
send cam Smith down. Just say, okay, what good is
he doing sitting for three straight days and then finally
getting in the lineup and going, oh for four. He
can have those at bats in triple A and build
a confidence factor to when you call him back up.
He's seeing pitches. But you're not doing justice to a

(30:29):
kid that probably we put the wagon before the horse
just a little bit. Do out a spring training by
having him sit for seventy two hours and then put
him in the ninth hole, the ninth hole of even
all places. If you want to move, put him in
the two hole. If you have to in a bad series,
you know the series is lost. Let's see what he's
doing with more plate appearances.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
I just I mean, I mean, I'm with you in
terms of I mean, I get where every once in
a while you want to, you know, get him off
his feet, you want to get him in the cage,
do all those different types of things. But I mean
it is also kind of to a point where, well,
you know, he's struggling at the plate, we can't really
count on him right now.

Speaker 6 (31:03):
Well then to your point, okay, well, then why is
he here? Okay?

Speaker 7 (31:05):
Let me ask you when you were growing up, did
your parents gentle parent you or did they throw you
into the deep.

Speaker 6 (31:10):
End to figure things out? A little bit of both,
see a little bit of both.

Speaker 7 (31:13):
My dad just threw me in the deep end, quite literally.
That's how I learned to swim. As I got, I
nearly drowned to figure it out. I sucked at swimming.
Guess what I figured it out. Make him suck at
swinging in the tool hole. Let him see multiple, give
him a golden sombrero. If he has to, he'll find
a way to figure it out. And if he doesn't,
you send him down to work on the mechanics. But

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you're not doing any justice by saying we don't want
to kill his confidence. You're not giving him a shot
to build his confidence by letting him sit. In fact,
for my money, I'd be more frustrated not getting plate
appearances at twenty three years old when I know that
I could better my career if I just was willing
to get to the plate.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
I would now fair points, no doubt about it. Uh,
Scott Missouri City. See, you're right there if you want
to join them. Seven one, three, two, two five, seven
ninety will continue the Astros conversation on the other side.
I think I'm gonna hold this over till next hour
because there was a chance that this Astros legend almost
never was. We'll let you hear that, as well as

(32:13):
the Salisbury stakeout coming up next hour. Many more great
things to talk about. I mean great in terms of
the Astros last night, well, pitching wise, it was, but
the other parts of it now that's up for discussion.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
We'll do all that right here.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
It is the Sean Salisbury Show, Cole Thompson and for
Sean right here on a Friday Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
This Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
We'll get it fired up this morning by heading out
to most city. Scott wants to weigh in.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
Scott, Good morning, Good morning, Ill are you guys very well?
How are you man?

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Doing good?

Speaker 8 (32:53):
Doing good? Hey?

Speaker 11 (32:54):
I wish like somebody would do something. I don't know
about Joy Sparta.

Speaker 8 (33:01):
Man, he's he reminds me of Terry Collins.

Speaker 11 (33:04):
I don't know if because remember remember, yeah, it's totally
He's like he's arrogant, and I don't think that he
says that I seem.

Speaker 12 (33:15):
To the players, because these are all professional players.

Speaker 11 (33:17):
They all know how to hear it.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
They all came into.

Speaker 8 (33:20):
This level knowing that I'm going right. But it's hard
that when they're in the home to pull him out.

Speaker 11 (33:31):
He doesn't know how to deal with the big time players.

Speaker 12 (33:35):
I mean, I can tell you, like you know, I've
seen I've been following.

Speaker 11 (33:39):
The Asho since early eighties. I mean, this is to me,
this is too much. You know, they got all these players.

Speaker 6 (33:48):
If you have the.

Speaker 11 (33:49):
Same problem with a different set of players, then you're
the problem.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
All right, Scott, don't don't go anywhere just yet. I mean,
hopefully your phone connection will clear up. But I mean,
they just won the division last year. Like that's I'm
gonna push back on that with exactly that they just
won the division last year. So I mean, in terms
of Joe a spot of being over his head, I
can't really meet you on.

Speaker 11 (34:13):
That, Scott.

Speaker 7 (34:14):
I'm gonna push back for a second too. Buddy, you're
saying this with the same lineup. It's not you no
longer have Alex Bregman. You no longer have Kyle Tucker.
You have a first baseman that's giving you great defense,
no offense. Third base has been fine this year with
Estoc Predes, but you're not finding consistent hitters in the five,
six and seven hole.

Speaker 6 (34:33):
Or in the three hole.

Speaker 7 (34:34):
You don't have yourd On Alvarez living up to where
he is, and you have questions when it comes to
jose L Tuove outside the leadoff spot. And it's been
great when it comes to Jeremy Paia.

Speaker 11 (34:43):
But I'm saying that it's the players. It's not the
same lineup.

Speaker 8 (34:48):
I'm saying that.

Speaker 11 (34:50):
Apple players you have, you know, rechange up the entire
infield pretty much.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (34:56):
But Scott, are you saying real fast that Bregman and
Escoc Predes are the same type of player?

Speaker 11 (35:02):
I think Perardy is better than.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
I'm not gonna meet you on that, Scott.

Speaker 7 (35:08):
Would you would you take anybody in the outfield right
now over Kyle Tucker? No, Okay, there we go. I
can meet you on that one. We can meet them
at all on that.

Speaker 6 (35:17):
Yeah, No, I mean go ahead.

Speaker 11 (35:22):
But I My thing is that, like you know, they're
they're are great players last year this year. But the
thing is, if you can we gotta look at the
way that ended.

Speaker 8 (35:35):
Up they finished last year.

Speaker 11 (35:37):
You know, I understand that they were they won the division,
but the way they've finished with Detroit, I mean that
was disappointing.

Speaker 12 (35:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
I appreciate the call, Scott, I mean with I mean,
not trying to focus too much on last year's because
it doesn't do us any good.

Speaker 6 (35:52):
Too.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
You had to bang up jord On Alvarez, You had
a less than one hundred percent Kyle Tucker, and I
understand they're out there, they're being counted on. They need
to be able to perform, but you had a lineup
that was scuffling at best at the end, and you
also faced against a team that was incredibly hot, that
had really good pitching with Scoob Bawl and company, and
they were the better team at the time, and they

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proved it in the two games.

Speaker 6 (36:13):
Did scooball do something pretty interesting last year? Well, I
mean he did. He did a nice little thing of
winning the cy Young Yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
I think that says a lot, but I mean it's
it's you know, the criticism that I have of Joe
Espada is not of his handling of this team. I think,
if anything, exactly what I said last year and I
think still carries over to this year. I think that
he was a guy that lived up to the moment
where first year managers are usually the types that will

(36:39):
be reactive, that will make changes for the sake of
making changes, and and you know, really kind of let
the pressure get to them. He stayed the course for
the most part last year, and it paid off for
him in the long run, because we were talking about
a guy that started off the season twelve games under
five hundred, ten games back of the Mariners and found
a way to get this team to rally together to
be able to overtake them and win the Vision.

Speaker 6 (37:01):
That's not nothing, Cole.

Speaker 7 (37:02):
I don't hate everything with Joe Aspata because some of
the decisions that he's made are very smart. Jeremy Panga
is hitting three fifteen right now in the leadoff spot
last season that he was a liability with runners in
scoring position when he was hitting in the sixth hole,
that's a good decision to make. I'm not opposed to
having a six man rotation right now when you're trying

(37:23):
to figure out what's the plan with getting back a
healthy Spencer Orraghedtty, what's the plan with Ryan Gusto, what's
his role? What are we going to do at Lance mccollor's.
I think it's a smart ploy because if it allows
you to play your lineup the way that you think
is best to guarantee a win. I don't mind that
you have jur Don Alvarez sitting out right now because
if he wasn't offering you anything when it came to

(37:43):
the plate, and his main role is a designated hitter,
So I don't care about those little things because if
there are some positives when it comes to Joe Aspata,
there's also negatives though, like your inability to realize Jose
Altuve has more strikeouts, a lower OPS, a lower slogging percentage,
a lower on base percentage, and he's not working counts
his favor in the.

Speaker 6 (38:04):
Two hole, but you can't move into the one hole.

Speaker 7 (38:06):
So why are you trying to consistently put somebody that
is showing you it's not working out. It's like a
bad relationship, and you don't want to be the person
to break up with somebody.

Speaker 6 (38:14):
It's not you, it's me.

Speaker 7 (38:16):
I just really want to see other people, but you're
too afraid to say that. So forty years down the line,
when you're laying in your deathbed, you're saying, I have
instant regrets.

Speaker 6 (38:24):
There's multiple games.

Speaker 7 (38:25):
Where if you look back, the Astros probably would have
won if hose altbus about and fit or lower.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
Well, I mean the regrets part of it. Man, you
paint a hell of a picture right there. I mean,
that's one of those that you hope is not any
of us. I'm not talking about you either, talking listening
to this conversation, you know, I mean there might be
a thing or two well that's between you and her.

Speaker 6 (38:47):
Dude, I'm gonna stay out of that one.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
But no, al tuove in the two spot this season
fifteen games, two oh seven with a five seven ops.
I mean it's you know, something that you look at
with him, And I mean that's the question that starts
to come in is where do you move them? You know,
how do you feel like he can fit in a
certain spot in the order. And I mean you talked

(39:11):
about Battenham fifth or even lower. I mean that's something
to consider. And I mean the moral of the story is,
when it comes down to all of this, the lineup
that you're running out there every single day is not
getting it.

Speaker 6 (39:23):
Done.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
You've got guys batting out of place. To the moment,
you've got guys batting in spots that they're not comfortable
batting in.

Speaker 6 (39:29):
The numbers are there for Christian Walker? Let met him fifth.

Speaker 7 (39:32):
Let me ask you, who's talk to you if as
a team player, everything that we've heard, how he was
willing to move positions for Alex Pragman, He's gonna take
less money for Alex Pegman to come back. He seems
like a team player. Do you think you would take
a fence to moving down in the lineup if it
ends up bettering the team and keeping their postseason hopes
a lot?

Speaker 5 (39:49):
He already did it once by going to a Spata
and saying, hey, I'm for it.

Speaker 7 (39:53):
So do it again, Espata. You have a guy that
literally told you Jamie pank is better leading off than
I am.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
Put him there.

Speaker 7 (40:01):
I promise you he'll tell you Estech Baradis is probably
better in the two hole. Put him there, you're not
in the three holes, probably like hose Altub. At this point,
get ready for your managerial ship that eventually you're going
to pick on up. Because if I guarantee you you
know what's best for this team, and all you have
to do is tell the guy up front, Hey, I'm
not going to the two hole. Let's try me in
the six hole tonight. Let's see what happens. And his

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word is probably going to carry a lot more weight.

Speaker 5 (40:25):
It's not only that, I mean, it's just it's it's
trying to be able to find ways to get these
guys that you need to get going going. I mean,
he's one of them. Christian Walker is another one.

Speaker 6 (40:35):
YANR.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
Diez is another one. You don't have any of those
three guys. You're not winning this division. Any thoughts of
making a deep run in the postseason are just that
their thoughts, because they're not reality. It's not going to
happen when you continue to trot this same lineup out there.
And I understand trusting guys, I get that, and I
understand not wanting to yo yo guys.

Speaker 6 (40:54):
Same deal.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
Fine, but you can also get to a place where
you find the spot to put them in and then say, hey,
this works, let's stick with it.

Speaker 6 (41:03):
Listen.

Speaker 7 (41:03):
I know we're against the break, but I do want
to be the person to say and we will come
back with this. I am channeling my inner Ross Villarial
and calling out my fandom club. I do not want
to hear blames last night on Christian Walker. I don't
want to hear the negativity surrounding number eight because if
he did help this team, at least keep it a
one run.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Game for sure.

Speaker 5 (41:24):
Alex, see you right there. We'll get you involved in
the conversation. Continue the Astros conversation. Also, something else that
I want to try to get into in the next
segment is, well, these are reasons why we can't trust
certain things that are said. We'll leave it there and
we'll talk about it here. On the other side, it
is the Sewn Salisbury Show, seven o'clock how or straight
ahead right here Sports Talk seven ninety Salbury.

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Okay, let's do this.

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Speaker 5 (42:08):
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(42:28):
Continuing the Astros lineup conversation here as before we get
to Alex here in just a second, you mentioned something
about Christian Walker of the blame to go around and
the blame not being placed on him.

Speaker 7 (42:42):
I'm not saying that when you have runners in scoring
position and you're striking out, we do not need to
becoming a Christian Walker did of a good game loss
side of the plate. Nobody had a good game last
side of the plate. That was the problem, that has
been the problem all year. The difference is I see
the way that Twitter or X whatever you want to
call it, continues to call out Jose A Bray you

(43:04):
two point zero. You didn't realize that last night, three
different times fastballs of over ninety three miles an hour
were drilled at eight's head and he walked away.

Speaker 6 (43:15):
With a snack he's giving you.

Speaker 7 (43:18):
I won't say gold glove, but I will say solid
defense right now, so much so that he kept through
a one run game. How many times last year if
you were watching John Singleton take the field or Jose
Bray you take the field, is that fastball hurling by
or zipping past his ear and it's an RBI double
and now the score instead of being one nothing and

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Hunter Brown giving you nine strikeouts, working his way out
of two jams, putting himself in a position to where
he can pitch an entire game, ends up being a
four nothing shutout. Christian Walker did that last night. And
I'm not gonna go ahead and say that the offense
isn't there. And I'm not gonna go ahead and say
that the offense is not a problem, because it is.
It's been a problem. But can we stop with just

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blaming the dude who can't hit in the four hole
and the evidence is there when you're watching him defensively
continue to keep this team in games.

Speaker 6 (44:10):
It's not a negative in that standpoint.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
The negative is you brought him here for the opportunity
to upgrade your first base position offensively, right, But you've.

Speaker 6 (44:21):
Done with defense the first and foremost.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
I get that, But I mean it's also you've had
for everything that you just laid out there, you had
good enough defense over there. I mean, this is not
why he's here. He's here to be an offensive stalwart
for your team in the middle of the lineup, and
he has not been that for the most part.

Speaker 6 (44:38):
The defense is fine.

Speaker 5 (44:39):
The defense is great, and absolutely it all bakes into this.
I get that, but that's the thing that I'm with
fans on of Hey, that's great, that's cool, but you
need to bring this part of it.

Speaker 6 (44:50):
But let me ask you.

Speaker 7 (44:51):
If he ends up hitting, let's say, over the rest
of the year two sixty seven, he has twenty five doubles,
he has twenty one home runs. I get it's underachieving,
but he gives you old glove caliber defense. Did you
not upgrade if the strikeout rate goes down and the
hit rate goes up in the contact rate continues to
go up. Did you not upgrade at the offensive position
from where you look at last year with John Singleton
and jose bre.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
You you did, But I mean I would also say
that this is kind of like Cole. A buddy owes
you money and then they say, hey, I'll buy you dinner. No,
that's not what we agreed upon. You need to pay
me back the money.

Speaker 7 (45:22):
If I took you out for a five course steak
dinner meal, would you still want me to pay you
the fifty dollars that I owed to you.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
Well, I mean, now that you say it that way,
I'll take the five course steak meal, because I'll eat
stake every single night exactly.

Speaker 6 (45:32):
Okay, Well, what did I take you to Burger King
five times? No? No, no, no, you don't want to
go have it your round?

Speaker 5 (45:37):
No, I'm not against it, but I mean I like
the first scenario a lot more.

Speaker 7 (45:42):
Okay, Well, what if we meet in the middle and
we go to Golden Corral? How about that?

Speaker 6 (45:46):
Let's go with.

Speaker 5 (45:46):
Another fast casual at least, I mean they've got steak there.

Speaker 7 (45:49):
I say they have steak, they do have shrimp, they
have do they have roast beef?

Speaker 6 (45:54):
I'm not sure they're prime rimp.

Speaker 5 (45:55):
Yeah they got they probably yeah, they probably have somebody
on the cutting board over there.

Speaker 7 (45:58):
Okay, how about this? How about take you off for
crawfish one night? Okay, there we go. I about you
four pounds crawfish. That's a win.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
It depends on how well seasoned they are, because you know,
some places they do it better than others.

Speaker 6 (46:08):
It's just all I'm gonna say. Alex and Tom Ball,
what's going on?

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Alex morn Fellas, how are you all doing today?

Speaker 6 (46:15):
Very well?

Speaker 12 (46:15):
Man?

Speaker 6 (46:15):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Good?

Speaker 10 (46:17):
You know I was driving to work, you know, listening
like platuning in right.

Speaker 6 (46:23):
Field, and and I.

Speaker 10 (46:24):
Think with if you want cam Smith to you know,
m M, it's just potential thrown in the deep end,
because like like y'all are saying, yeah, I was a
thought in the same way, throwing in the deep end
and put him at the top of the lineup in
the two hole and figure it out. You know, he's

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either gonna swing into it or he's not, and you're.

Speaker 5 (46:50):
Gonna see yeah, Alex, yeah, your phone skipping man.

Speaker 6 (46:54):
But I think we get to play appreciate.

Speaker 7 (46:57):
Which is again one hundred percent correct. I completely agree
with him, probably because I was the one that came
up with the point to begin with.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
Throw him in the two hole? What dark did you
plant that caller? Like you did you text him and
say hey, hey, back me up on this. I think
he did.

Speaker 6 (47:11):
He isn't Tom Ball, so I mean they're close to me.
I can.

Speaker 7 (47:14):
I will not confirm or deny that I called my
friend Alex Casilla to maybe go ahead and give me
a little bit of vouging support.

Speaker 5 (47:21):
Okay, Am I not wrong? Though you're stacking the deck
against me, I get it.

Speaker 7 (47:24):
Am I not wrong though, Dan Matthews, let's throw him
out there in a series that you think you can. Okay,
I'm not saying this upcoming one, but let's go Tampa.
You going to a minor league ballpark. You're playing where
the Yankees call home in the month of February and March.

Speaker 6 (47:40):
Throw him in the two hole. What's the worst.

Speaker 7 (47:42):
That's going to happen? He gets twelve to thirteen at bats.
You figure out pretty quickly in a minor league ballpark
where a lot of us when we started the season
still had our concerns if he was going to be
able to make the jump to the major league level,
if he's not able to make solid contact in those parks,
if he's not able to have better defense.

Speaker 6 (48:03):
In those parks.

Speaker 7 (48:04):
Don't you have your signal that maybe Zach Decenzo is
more MLB ready and he should be seeing more played appearances,
and you get Camsmith back down in Triple A. Let
him build up that confidence, let him actually see pitchers
that he's more qualified and going up against.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
Se Yeah, I mean, I will agree with you that
I think they're kind of towing the line right now
because they're showing you that with having Zach Decenzo in
the lineup every single night, right now that he is
more ready than Cam Smith is okay.

Speaker 6 (48:30):
Fine.

Speaker 5 (48:31):
If that's the case, and you maybe feel like you've
got to choose between one or the other, well then
the decision has been made for at least right now.
I mean, it's as simple as that, as the way
that I see that, the way that they're playing it
at the moment.

Speaker 7 (48:42):
It's made right now. But it doesn't have to be
until after this next series. I'm not saying tonight. Listen
at the next three games. Zach Decenzo in the seventh
hole gives you a better chance of walking away with
a dub over Cam Smith in the nine hole. This
is more important. It's a divisional matchup. It's a divisional game.
You have to still have the advantages over Seattle, over

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the Athletics, over whatever the hell you call that team
out in Los Angeles, because they're not a baseball team.
They're just a joke of a franchise. Right now, the Rangers.
You have to have those advantages if you want to
win the division. You can split a series against Tampa
and feel okay about where you stand. And it's a
minor league ballpark, a park that is slightly bigger than
what he was playing at Florida State last year.

Speaker 6 (49:26):
Let him figure it out.

Speaker 7 (49:27):
These are the moments where you get to see if
he is the best fit for your team, and if
he's not, it's not that big of a problem because
you want to what could happen two months from now,
you're going into the you're going into the All Star break,
you have an injury, or you're watching Cam Smith slug
eight hundred. You put in to see him put up an
ops of seven fifty. You're seeing him hit three twenty five,

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and he's showing you the constant growth that you wanted
to see that you were watching in spring training. He's
twenty three years old and is less than a year
removed from playing in college. Let's see what he does
in the minor league ballpark with more play appearances.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
Well, and then you know another guy down there that
is at least starting to raise the intendant for a
lot of people.

Speaker 6 (50:08):
Is the way that Shae whit comes swinging the back.
You can take a called up soon.

Speaker 7 (50:11):
I don't know if it's going to be in the
next thirty days, but I will say before the All
Star Break he makes his MOLB debut.

Speaker 5 (50:16):
It seems like it I mean especially too, when you
know you factor in, you know, just the offensive void
that you're getting at the moment at second base between
you know, Mauricio Dubon, although I mean, look, two outs
runner on second he did put a nice little shot
in the right field and he got a Doulas Garcia saying,
oh hey, look what I found here on this sliding grab,
which nice play by him. But you know, and Brendan

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Rodgers seemingly just he cannot consistently put the ball in
play at the moment I mean, is.

Speaker 7 (50:44):
That he's now stuck on the roster unless you trade
him or you want DFAM and paying his money, which
again it's not a lot, but still you had the
opportunity to get out of it.

Speaker 6 (50:51):
A week ago.

Speaker 5 (50:52):
Well, I think that at the time, the thought was,
all right, he's swinging it well enough, because I mean,
he did put together some good at bats early on
this season. Now he's ruggled, and yeah, you are north
of that May first deadline. But I mean it's also
to a point where I think that Joe Spoda would
like to be able to have a set guy there
at second base. But for everything that I just laid out,

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he can't have a set guy at second base because
neither of them are necessarily taking the job.

Speaker 6 (51:17):
Do you try Shae Wickham in the outfield at this point?

Speaker 13 (51:21):
Why not?

Speaker 6 (51:21):
Because if everyone else you're trying out there?

Speaker 5 (51:23):
Well, I mean I think that pretty much everywhere except
for third base isn't played for Shae Witcumb right now?

Speaker 6 (51:28):
Why not?

Speaker 7 (51:29):
By the way, East Hoc Paradise. Even though he didn't
have that picture? How many times last night did you
watched that ball he was bat and you're just like, oh,
that's a home run.

Speaker 5 (51:37):
I thought anywhere else besides here, seven out of the
thirty parks in Major League Baseball would have been a
home run lost.

Speaker 7 (51:44):
We're sitting at Big City Wings and we're watching as
it leaves the bat at ninety seven miles an hour,
and it looks like it's.

Speaker 6 (51:51):
A moonshote and all it does is right back then.

Speaker 7 (51:55):
It's like the heart. It's like the teas of all tea.
It's like when you were growing up and having kicks
and you want to frosted. It's fine, but it could
be better. Well, you have kicks.

Speaker 5 (52:05):
The scenarios that you lay out here, I like it.
I mean, it's kind of a little bit channeling me.
Maybe you are really liked me, and that's not that's
not a good thing to.

Speaker 6 (52:13):
Be I think it's a wonderful thing to be doing well.
I appreciate it. Thanks. In fact, you're wearing a Georgia shirt.
But actually I actually did like Kicks as a kid.

Speaker 7 (52:21):
You didn't enjoy it, all right, Like I'm nothing like you.
This is a fun time. I hope you have a
good rest of your show.

Speaker 6 (52:26):
Hey, that's fine. We can.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
We can be able to take the rest of the
two and a half hours or whatever much we got.
So we got plenty of things to be able to
talk about here on the Sean Salisbury Show. You can
also join in seOne three two one two five seven
ninety against seven one three two one two five seven
ninety What was it?

Speaker 6 (52:41):
Was it kicks with the berries?

Speaker 8 (52:43):
Was that?

Speaker 6 (52:43):
Was that? What it was? No, it's just regular kicks.
It was just like the.

Speaker 7 (52:46):
Corn just the cornpuff that had a little bit of
sugar on top.

Speaker 6 (52:50):
No, those were fine, No they weren't.

Speaker 7 (52:51):
You wanted frosted flakes, you wanted a Lucky Charms, you
wanted anything else, and you got settle with Kicks because
of your parents just want you to stop crying.

Speaker 6 (52:58):
Who was who was?

Speaker 5 (52:59):
Snapcrack? Well pop, yeah, there you go. I mean you
put a little, you know, spoonful of sugar on there.

Speaker 7 (53:04):
Yeah, grow up can consider that as like as a
porridge as we called it my household.

Speaker 6 (53:10):
Either of them, they're they're they're still pretty good.

Speaker 5 (53:12):
But uh no, I mean every everybody knows what the
the goat of all cereals is and it's too can
Sam Sapplejacks.

Speaker 6 (53:19):
No, it's too can Sam.

Speaker 12 (53:20):
Frosty.

Speaker 6 (53:22):
They're not great.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
The flakes are good. There's there are many of them.
Like yesterday, well was it? Matt and Ross were talking
about their favorite soft drinks. Which one was their favorite?
Coach as we call them down here. Yeah, well, Matt
said one of his favorites was squirt, and I told him,
you know that people who like squirt they're called squirters.

Speaker 6 (53:42):
Who drinks squirt? You just ran right through the I did,
I did, I completely?

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Did?

Speaker 6 (53:46):
I trust me? I know, I am told. I want
to make sure that I was total on this one.
A fair enough?

Speaker 5 (53:51):
There you go, So soft drinks, cereals, we got them
all here. It is the Sean Salisbury Show, even without Sean,
here we find a way. Trust me, we one way
or another, we do get there. All right, coming up.
This is a massive fear for me, and I've got
many of them. But if I were ever in this situation,
I would just say go ahead and pull the plug.

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It is a Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety
the most refreshing way to start your day.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Shower, shave and Sean, They're done. The courtesy flush is
always appreciated.

Speaker 6 (54:27):
Thank god, Thank the good Lord.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Thank you from the management team here at Sports Talk
seven ninety. Back to Sean Salisbury.

Speaker 6 (54:40):
All right, Sean, what are.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
You hearing out there now? The Salisbury's takeout, Salisbury takeout
on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 5 (54:49):
You know what was just said right there in that
show rejoin, especially here in our building.

Speaker 6 (54:53):
It is somewhat true.

Speaker 5 (54:54):
But the only problem is it seems like every single
time you have to go use the bathroom, the cleaning
lady right.

Speaker 6 (55:00):
There, I always just go to the sixth floor.

Speaker 5 (55:03):
It's a good I mean, it's fine, but it's one
of those like, if you know, save our breaks are
about four minutes, so if you know, goes to break
and got to go out there, you wouldn't want to
be late the car. The cart is right in front
of it. Depends depends. I mean sometimes it can happen,
but it is also where it's no. I mean, you
know you need me to steer the ship. See here's
the runnerless without it.

Speaker 7 (55:24):
Here's the problem with me is that I'm lucky because
of on eighteen through at least three to six. We
have slot of times, so I know how long we
got until we got to come back. So I play
around it like I make sure there's no ad read
there's only commercial break.

Speaker 6 (55:39):
We're going right there.

Speaker 7 (55:40):
Five minutes. I got time to go ahead and let
one loose down on the sixth floor. I feel okay.
And the reason I do this is because if I
feel bad sometimes for my ibs, I don't want that
to affect anybody else who has to be in that
bathroom with me. I don't want them to be along
for the ride. That's a mean time moment. Yes, it
is a metime moment, Dan Matthews, That's.

Speaker 6 (56:01):
Not why I'm laying out what do you mean?

Speaker 5 (56:04):
It was the other part that at seven twenty one,
where you know there might be some people who are
enjoying some kicks or something like that that you just
laid out the other part for us. You're going to Cleveland. No,
you're not going Browntown. Astroids going to the Rangers in
Arlington last night, the Thunder and Nugget's gonna go to

(56:27):
a games Toe have in Denver winning last night, and
Jonathan Vegas is gonna go off on the first te
hear in about forty minutes. He's got a two shot
lead on the rest of the field the PGA Championship.
All right, look, you know you ran through one stop sign.
I'll run through another.

Speaker 6 (56:40):
There we go.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
All right, it's shamoo and orcas. How do you feel
about free Willie? How do you feel about orcas?

Speaker 7 (56:48):
Like Flipper better? Well, I mean much more friendly, much
more friendly.

Speaker 5 (56:51):
Although although dolphins are pretty much sexual conquistadors.

Speaker 6 (56:54):
You know that, right?

Speaker 7 (56:55):
Yes, have you ever seen You've seen the meme of
the dolphin looking at you through the class at night?

Speaker 6 (56:59):
Right? Oh god, it's horrifying, Like he knows what's up,
he's got a plan, he's already got a place.

Speaker 5 (57:04):
Is this like the horse on Family Guy? Yes, Peter,
it's the horse again. It's still watching. Yeah, it's it's
literally flipper.

Speaker 7 (57:10):
He's flipping out, He's getting what's going on now?

Speaker 6 (57:14):
Anyways, what about shamboo? All right?

Speaker 5 (57:16):
So, apparently in the Strait of Gibraltar, right there in Spain,
the Mediterranean Sea, I've been there before, orcas have been
a problem. Well, there was recently a woman named Ilona
which I'm not even gonna try to pronounce her last name,
posted a video of them on a sailing yacht. No
shot on a sailing yachts and you have an orca

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who is ramming the boats and then gets underneath the
boats and starts hitting it from the bottom of the boats.

Speaker 6 (57:44):
Apparently this is not an isolated incident.

Speaker 5 (57:46):
Over the past three years, there have been at least
five hundred reports of orca's engaging in unusual interactions with yachts.
Right there at the Strait of Gibraltar, one of the
busiest waterways in the world. The aggressive whales have been ramming,
causing damage to boat, rush and in some cases even
sinking at vessels, like in May of twenty twenty four,
the albern Cogniak I believe was the name of the

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sailing yacht that was taking on water then capsizing, causing
the boat to alert a emergency services call to soon
enough be rescued by a nearby oil tanker.

Speaker 7 (58:21):
So it seems like that the whales are protecting their
little realm of society.

Speaker 5 (58:26):
See so Killer Mike the Rapper was on with Joe
Rogan wants and they were talking about this very thing,
and Rogan's whole thing was, you know, our Orca's like
finally like realizing like, hey, you know hunting, you know,
blue whales or whatever they would hunt, you know, just
basically they kill for fun, right, so they finally have
kind of realized, you know, be kind of fun to
go after humans. And then Rogan goes, what if somehow

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they found out about SeaWorld.

Speaker 6 (58:52):
What if they did, maybe maybe.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
That's causing the aggressive behavior now of like, you know,
these rat you know whats have been putting us in
basically water versions of cages for years.

Speaker 6 (59:03):
Think about it for a second, having us sing for
our supper.

Speaker 7 (59:06):
There are multiple multiple whales that have been released from
SeaWorld back into the wild.

Speaker 6 (59:12):
You don't think they've.

Speaker 7 (59:12):
Had a conversation through sonar about what goes on in
San Diego and San Antonio. You don't think they've had
that chatter about Hey, we gotta go flip for fish.

Speaker 6 (59:21):
So this is basically the whale version. This is the
poge for them.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
So this is the whale version of Planet of the Apes.

Speaker 7 (59:28):
Yes, as well as you which, by the way, this
shouldn't be shocking when it comes to killer whales. You
know what their fun sport is taking penguins and flipping
them up in the air fifty feet and breaking their backs.

Speaker 5 (59:39):
Yeah, like I said, I mean they kill for fun.
So I mean now it's I mean, yeah, I have
seen them. And you know, I've also seen the Great
Whites right there at you know, South Africa doing that too,
where I think wh wasn't it a vivl of bam
with Bam MARSHERA yea, yeah, didn't didn't they do that?
Like they went there and like they were putting like
the dumb seals in the water.

Speaker 6 (01:00:01):
And then we flip it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:02):
You see, basically school buses jumping out at our great
white sharks.

Speaker 7 (01:00:06):
So what the Great Whites did was they would attack it.
What the killer whales would do is they would flip it,
flip it. They would literally go on their backs. They
would play with it and then they drag it on
New water.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
See, Like, that's the thing too. It's like alligators. We've
had conversations about alligators before.

Speaker 6 (01:00:19):
Spies.

Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
Well, I mean, yeah, pretty much. They are pretty much
becoming dogs.

Speaker 7 (01:00:24):
But with the way that people are domesticating them, you're
getting close to own them. One.

Speaker 6 (01:00:29):
That's the other thing is toos.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
I mean, have you seen the video of the two
that and one of them went up and rang the
ring doorbell.

Speaker 6 (01:00:34):
Yeah, we're trying to get in. Mom let us in.

Speaker 7 (01:00:38):
It's eight It's like my dog when it's like it's
seven thirty and she hasn't had a breakfast yet.

Speaker 6 (01:00:43):
She knows what she's doing. She she knows what button
she's pushing. They just wanted dinner.

Speaker 5 (01:00:48):
I'm telling you, man, there's a buddy of mine that
had a theory that plant of the apes could actually happen.
Is it gonna happen with killer whales? Get Yeah, that's
that's That's what you have to wonder. That's what I mean,
all of them. Okay, finally there's somewhat of a meeting
between all of them. It's it's almost like is it
animal farm. I'm trying to remember which one it was.
Where basically the animals pretty much realized, Hey, these people suck.

(01:01:10):
We need to rise up against them.

Speaker 6 (01:01:11):
You mean the allegory of Marxism.

Speaker 7 (01:01:13):
Yeah, that was George orwell, okay, you're on the right
pack day in Matthews. No, there you go. We get it,
We get a history lesson. Okay, here here's what I
will ask you. What's more horrifying? Because you know that
conversation that decided to go ahead and take over the internet.
One hundred men versus one gorilla? What about one hundred
men versus ten eights? I mean ten chimpanzees. Oh, the chimpanzees.

Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
Chimpanzees are kicking your ass. Dude, you could have you
could go one for ten. I mean you're talking about
an animal. Where go look it up. And this is
another thing they talked about on Rogan was the sheer
strength of chimpanzees.

Speaker 7 (01:01:46):
Have you seen them when they're shaved? It's straight muscle.
It literally looks like Kimbo slices walked out into your pathway.

Speaker 6 (01:01:55):
That's what you're dealing with.

Speaker 11 (01:01:56):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
You did have John Bones Jones who say that he
would be willing to take part in the one hundred
minut against one gorilla.

Speaker 6 (01:02:02):
Okay, see that's not the question. Though. If you give me.

Speaker 7 (01:02:05):
Dave Bautista at his peak, the Rock, John Bone Jones,
and several of her MMA fighters, I'll take ten of
them against one gorilla.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
They'll win.

Speaker 7 (01:02:14):
I'm talking about you, me, Triple Lee and ninety seven
of our friends going to war against a gorilla.

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
Yeah, it's not gonna be us. We're not gonna be
the ones winning this.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
I mean you're talking about, you know, animals that they
have to literally eat what they killed.

Speaker 7 (01:02:27):
Let me ask you where would you want to rank
in the order of the one hundred. Would you gonna say,
I'm in a group of ninety. I want to be
thirty four. I at least know that he's gonna be
tired by the time he gets to me. I might
stand a chance, that's okay, I'm saying, stand a chance
to where he doesn't break.

Speaker 6 (01:02:44):
My second I'd say, like pretty much.

Speaker 5 (01:02:46):
You know a starter that's able to go the full
nine innings they're about at that point and about the
third or fourth inning trip.

Speaker 7 (01:02:51):
Believe how many seconds you give me with the with
the gorilla. If I'm number thirty four in line, I'll
give you a solid team.

Speaker 6 (01:02:59):
You give me ten seconds. Not the hell, I'm going
the under, I'm going five.

Speaker 7 (01:03:02):
I'm going seventeen, give me seventeen seconds.

Speaker 6 (01:03:06):
He's definitely biting your skull.

Speaker 7 (01:03:07):
Well, is he gonna have to listen to me talk?
And then he's just like, I don't want to hear
this anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:03:11):
That's probably how it happens.

Speaker 7 (01:03:12):
Okay, honestly, Yeah, what should I bore him for? Just
grab grabs both the shoulders and just what.

Speaker 6 (01:03:17):
Should I bore him?

Speaker 7 (01:03:18):
With my big twelve takes or my college football conversations
about the ACC.

Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
I would say either of them. You throw him out
there once and then you know, Coco is gonna go
ahead and say enough of this is an over Nope,
out Donkey Kong. Donkey Kong is gonna finally say it's
gonna come for me. I've had enough at this point.
But no, I mean back to the back to the orcas.
That's my fear man like it is. So you know,

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the same buddy that I told you about with the
plan of the apes. Sure it was you know, bodies
of water that you're willing to go swimming in? And
he said the ocean. I know, my opponent, he said,
fresh water like lakes, and rivers. No, because I don't
know what's in there. I go to a pool, that's it.
I was gonna say pool, I don't. I don't know it's.

Speaker 6 (01:04:03):
The pool in the pond.

Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
I'm at least I have a good idea of what's
what I do even do well, actually, no, that's not.

Speaker 6 (01:04:09):
Really I don't even do rivers.

Speaker 7 (01:04:10):
I mean i'll do I'll do rapids just because of
usually if you stay away from the banks, I think
you're pretty good. Besides that, I won't do anything else.
I don't do oceans, I don't do ponds.

Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
Well know, the river helps you because I mean, you know,
you got a little bit of the liquid courage there,
and you know, of course you don't get drunk on
the river. Everybody knows that.

Speaker 6 (01:04:27):
What are you talking about? I don't know me. Oh
I mean, are you a pregamer river?

Speaker 7 (01:04:31):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:04:32):
You literally do.

Speaker 5 (01:04:33):
But you know it's one of those that you feel
like you're not, but then as soon as you stand
up out of your tube, you're like, oh, man, see.

Speaker 7 (01:04:39):
There's times that I just don't go drink on the river,
and I just feel the exact same way because I've
been sitting down for four hours.

Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
I have no idea how to live that life. Man,
I gotta, I've gotta, I've gotta have some tasty beverage.

Speaker 7 (01:04:50):
It's a fantastic livelihood, Dan Matthews. It's all the same
feelings minus the alcohol. Imagine that lifestyle.

Speaker 6 (01:04:58):
I still need it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
I still need it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
Shout out Don's fish Camp. You know, those those who know,
you know, shout out Don's fish Camp. See, I'm not
afraid old man with the measuring tape suspenders. My Texas
State people, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:05:12):
I'll give you.

Speaker 7 (01:05:12):
I will give you some grace because if you decided
to open up to me and tell me what you
were irrational, what your fear is. I have a real
fear watermok sins because they live in my backyard and
they piss people off.

Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
Well no, I mean they're on the river too, so
you know you gotta you gotta, you gotta worry about those.
But I mean it also too. I mean kind of
feel like it's like, Hm, if I get bit, you
know how much time do I have? Can I get there?
My blood's thinned out enough, so is that gonna be fine?

Speaker 7 (01:05:35):
Does the alcohol take give you a few more extra
hours to be able to kind of pass on through.

Speaker 6 (01:05:39):
I hope so, I hope so, because hey, how'd you
get here?

Speaker 8 (01:05:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:05:43):
Bit by a watermoxsin on the river. Well, you can
at least blame.

Speaker 7 (01:05:45):
His, say, alcohol poisoning problem. Solve some poisoning got me. Oh,
by the way, I got this bite Mark here? What happened?

Speaker 6 (01:05:50):
They'll figure it out. That'd pretty much be it. One
of the things.

Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
Now you start, you start getting the dossier read against
you of yeah, you know, when you're nine years old,
you did this. Eight years old, you did this. So
it's the life we lead. It's what we do, all right.
Coming up, when it comes to this with the Astros,
it always feels like there's more to be desired. We'll
talk about it here on The Shawn Salisbury Show Sports
Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 6 (01:06:20):
Brandon wants to wag and good morning Brandon. What's that buddy?
Good morning?

Speaker 7 (01:06:24):
How are you guys?

Speaker 6 (01:06:25):
Good man? How are you?

Speaker 7 (01:06:26):
I'm there?

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Okay, it's right for you.

Speaker 6 (01:06:30):
It's cool. Yeah, it's still cool. What's that about it?
How we doing?

Speaker 7 (01:06:34):
How are you?

Speaker 6 (01:06:35):
I'm good? How was your Thursday?

Speaker 13 (01:06:38):
It was good?

Speaker 6 (01:06:40):
There you go?

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
I played my gang what'd you playing m'll be this show?

Speaker 6 (01:06:47):
Are you a big GTA fan?

Speaker 10 (01:06:49):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
No, No, you're.

Speaker 7 (01:06:52):
Not excited for the game to come out next year,
even though it's never gonna come out. It's gonna be
disbanded again like the fourth time.

Speaker 8 (01:07:03):
Oh is it a car game?

Speaker 6 (01:07:05):
Yes, it's a car game. It's a car game. It's
a shooting game, it's a it's everything to have a game, Brandon.

Speaker 11 (01:07:12):
Yeah, I will, I will get it.

Speaker 6 (01:07:15):
You will get it. I can't wait to watch you.
What do you got on these Astros? Bud?

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Hey, we need to win and we need to probably
need to shut up the Rangers.

Speaker 7 (01:07:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:07:24):
I like both of those ideas. And you talked about
playing MLB the show. Remember what happened last time you
played MLB the Show. So I say play it today
as Lance McCullers, and let's give Lance some good momentum.

Speaker 6 (01:07:36):
I will do that here in a second. Okay, I
will get I like it. I like it. There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:07:44):
I mean we talked about it last time with Fromber
when Brandon called in after playing his game and Fromber
went out there and absolutely shoved and the Astros won.
So if we get that tonight Brandon, then we'll know
who to think.

Speaker 6 (01:07:54):
Brandon, how many innings is is Lance gonna go tonight?

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
I was thinking seven?

Speaker 11 (01:08:00):
Who?

Speaker 5 (01:08:01):
All right, Well, there we go, Brandon putting himself out there.
I like it, man, I like it. Well, Brandon, have
a great weekend. Let's hope that you're right, and let's
hope the Astros were able to pull off the win
the night.

Speaker 6 (01:08:14):
Todd you on Monday, Buddy, all right, see you man.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
And Brandon, like I said last time, I mean he
told us he played MLB the show as fromber went
out and shoved against the Brewers and then what did
they end up doing that night?

Speaker 6 (01:08:26):
Well, they did that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:27):
So if Brandon's able to do that, maybe it's the
magic of Brandon on MLB the show.

Speaker 7 (01:08:31):
Did he play with Lence Colors Junior? Though right before
last Saturday?

Speaker 6 (01:08:35):
I don't know if he did.

Speaker 5 (01:08:36):
I mean, we'll leave that, We'll leave that part of
it out because I mean, it doesn't fit the narrative.

Speaker 6 (01:08:41):
No, that's it. That's it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:41):
We want to keep the good, positive vibes, a good
momentum going, and Brandon can bring that.

Speaker 7 (01:08:45):
By the way, Triple brought back good vibes because if
he was playing Begs. I appreciate that Timbily's killing it
with the music today.

Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
You and Matt Thomas massive Beg's fans, along with Nick Saban.

Speaker 7 (01:08:55):
I think it's the only thing that Jimmy Fallon ever
did on Saturday in that live that made me laugh
things Barry Give Talk Show is a top five skiit
by Jimmy Fallon.

Speaker 6 (01:09:04):
It's also though too.

Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
I mean, the best, the the only endearing thing that
I think Jimmy Fallon brings in terms of what he
did on Saturday Night Live was his inability to keep character.

Speaker 7 (01:09:13):
He couldn't keep a straight face to save his life. Yeah,
that was the problem. I mean, that's like you know
the what's it the Blue Oyster colt one with Dickinson?

Speaker 6 (01:09:24):
Who that was? Bruce Dickinson? That was? That was Christopher
Walkins character's name. I need more cow Bell? Is that
his name? In the Yeah? See okay?

Speaker 7 (01:09:35):
And the Jeane was And by the way, have you
ever heard the story about Will Ferrell?

Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
Have you ever heard the story about how Christopher walking
hates Will Ferrell?

Speaker 7 (01:09:43):
No, he hates Will Ferrell because of every single time
that he would go out to an autograph signing.

Speaker 6 (01:09:49):
What do you think people brought him the cow bell
and the.

Speaker 7 (01:09:53):
Brown chicken wings at a cow bell? Okay, so what
I mean, of course that was gonna be something that
they like. Apparently he was supposed to be an anchor
man and he didn't want to do it because they
want to be a world Farrell, because you figured that
was gonna be too much cowbo.

Speaker 6 (01:10:04):
Interesting again, you learned something new everything.

Speaker 5 (01:10:06):
But I mean it was the jazz flutes or as
you know was said at the club. He has flutes, right,
but what was gonna happen was he didn't one like
to hill Ron Bergin, you sing ya's flutes please, I'm
not prepared.

Speaker 7 (01:10:17):
Fred Armison, Fred Armison, I can't stand Fred Armison. That's
one of the that's one of the very characters.

Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
He's almost kind of like, I don't know, like Daryl Hammond.

Speaker 6 (01:10:26):
I guess had some you know, some endearing times.

Speaker 5 (01:10:30):
But Daryl was Tim Meadows, like like, what did Tim
Meadows really do?

Speaker 6 (01:10:35):
He was in ming girls? Well, sure he kept them.
He was the ladies man.

Speaker 5 (01:10:39):
Yeah, but I mean but he just he's kind of
in that same mold like where they were there, but
they weren't the stars.

Speaker 7 (01:10:45):
Well no, but all, okay, they weren't the stars, which
is fair. But Daryl Hammond also did have a career afterwards.
Like Daryl Hammond was locked in to just being on
satur Night Life. Have you seen him in anything else? No,
it's a sad.

Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
Life for Daryl Hammond outside, I guess everyone in a
while he would show up in something with Sandler, but
I mean that's that's about it.

Speaker 7 (01:11:03):
But like they try to make Fred Armison something after
he left us Orlandia.

Speaker 6 (01:11:09):
Do you like that show? I've never seen one episode
of it. It's so it Yeah, okay.

Speaker 7 (01:11:15):
Do you remember the episode of A Family Guy where
you hear Peter Griffin talk about talking about Godfather and
he's saying, like how it insists upon itself? It insists
upon itselfing that's what Portlandia is. It literally is pretentious nonsense.
But just Fred Armison wanting to be that weird character
that wasn't probably pitched on Saturday that life, like Andy
Samberg create a weird character and his name was Jake

(01:11:36):
Peralta and we went on mysteries with him on Brooklyn
nine nine. The same thing happened with Fred Armison, and
somehow wece picked it up and it was terrible.

Speaker 5 (01:11:44):
So I mean it almost kind of seems like it
was a show that's like trying too hard of Oh man,
I'd love to live in Portland and just live like
you know, a nothing like it.

Speaker 7 (01:11:52):
He was trying to sell Portland as a primetime location
because he lives there in the off like.

Speaker 6 (01:11:57):
Me, and then you know, certain things happened. Would you
ever put a franchise there, like any sport team there
right now?

Speaker 8 (01:12:02):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:12:02):
Probably not.

Speaker 7 (01:12:02):
Why are they still promoting that, like, oh, let's put
a hockey team there? I know why because they want
to create that rivalry on the on the West coast
with Salt Lake and they can throw in Seattle. I'm
still just just mad about it not being in Houston.
I'm going to complain about Dan Matthews forever.

Speaker 5 (01:12:19):
If I never go there ever again, I think I'll
be just fine. Part you've never been been through it,
and you know went out. My uncle used to live
in Dallas, Oregon, which was not far from Salem, so
go see him every once in all Oregon itself, as
the state is.

Speaker 7 (01:12:33):
Dallas is terrible as the one here. No, it's nice, douchey, Okay, Well.

Speaker 6 (01:12:37):
That's fine. I mean there's no little d out in
there that's sice there you go.

Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
Yeah, it's uh, it's I've said it before. I like
the city itself of Dallas. I just I could do
without the people. Of course you get, but hold up,
I don't like the city either. I don't like anything
like like fort Worth. I think it's a bad rep
because it's near Dallas.

Speaker 7 (01:12:55):
I hate Dallas itself, like the actual city and the
city limits. Like I like Arlington better than I like
Dallas itself. I mean, like I said, I mean the
city itself. I don't mind, Like I like the uptown area.
But it's just it's just the people and how just
overwhelmingly arrogant they are. And I've always thrown out the
questions too, and I don't really get a good response

(01:13:17):
from it, Like what gives you the entitlement to feel
like you can.

Speaker 6 (01:13:21):
Act this way because we're Dallas. That didn't answer question.

Speaker 5 (01:13:25):
Because we're the Cowboys Again, that doesn't answer my question.

Speaker 6 (01:13:28):
Because if we're.

Speaker 7 (01:13:28):
Dallas, because there's a television show named after it, and
so they think that they have rights over over Houston.

Speaker 5 (01:13:34):
I just know that this city is uniquely itself and
whenever you go there, it's always people, Oh, just got
back from la Oh just got back from New York. Okay,
well then stay there. I just then stay there like
it's nobody comes from this city and you know, wants
it to be something else. Like I would say that
probably when I left in twenty twelve, this was a

(01:13:56):
city that was just kind of there. It didn't really
have an identity. But then you started to get more
of the restaurant seeing built up, you started to get
more of the micro breud seen starting to build up,
and the city started to gain an identity for itself
that I was like, you know what, it's pretty damn
awesome to be.

Speaker 7 (01:14:10):
From Hugh Dallas just Hays loser mentality. We're better than you,
but we're really not. We're just really depressed and clinically
always it's just exact.

Speaker 5 (01:14:16):
It's just again like I just don't really like I
don't get a straight response from people of why it's
such a great place you.

Speaker 7 (01:14:24):
Want to watch great play Dan because you and I
don't live there.

Speaker 5 (01:14:27):
There you go someone three two one two five seven
ninety JBC. You right there, We'll get you involved. Also
to the astros with injuries. We'll talk about that here.
As still waiting on you and Don Alvarez, all of
that much more close out seven o'clock hour right here,
Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 7 (01:14:44):
We want to wait.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety JB.

Speaker 6 (01:14:49):
Good morning, Hey, good morning guys.

Speaker 12 (01:14:53):
I just wanted to start off with let's help. Brandon
is right, because if mccullors goes seven, that'd be the
biggest Astros news of the season.

Speaker 7 (01:15:02):
He's not wrong, jbere one hundred percent round on that one.
What's on your mind, Bud?

Speaker 12 (01:15:07):
It's a shame that Hunter Brown didn't get any run support.
If you've got an ERA below one point five, you
should have a zero in the lost column.

Speaker 6 (01:15:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:15:16):
I mean it's twice now that the Astros have, you know,
had him on the short end of things. I mean
the Mets second game of the series, uh, in the
second game of the season. I mean it's early on
at that point, but I mean, as I talked about earlier, JB.
I mean, it's just kind of a storyline that won't
go away with this team. And for the third time
last night, you did not score one single solitary run

(01:15:39):
and your pitcher suffers because of it.

Speaker 12 (01:15:43):
Yeah, it's interesting to me because I'd actually I like
Descenzo getting more at bats than Cam Smith, and people
are calling for Cam Smith to go down. The reason
I want Cam to go down is to get a
bunch more at bats than he's getting now. But Cam
Smith is not the problem. I'm looking at current stats,

(01:16:04):
and you know, if you're a hitter, your OPS is
your best metric for success. And Ken Smith has a
better OPS than Jose Altuve, Jordan Alvarez, the Einer Diaz,
Christian Walker, Jas McCormick, Mauricio Dubond and Brandon Rodgers. All
those players have way more experience success MLB, you know everything,

(01:16:32):
and yet they're playing worse than Cam right now. Those
are the players that need to suffer the brunt of
our concern because Cam's a rookie barely out of college.
Where are these studs in the lineup?

Speaker 6 (01:16:46):
JB?

Speaker 7 (01:16:47):
You want to serve it up to these losers in Arlington.
I've asked Dan this question. Let me ask you. You
get to build your one through five lineup, who are
you put in a neat spot?

Speaker 12 (01:16:56):
Well, Paynia is killing it in first, so that's a
guaranteed number one. Honestly, I think you got to put
Parades second and give him in the most at bats
you can. You know, if you're looking at these ops numbers,
you got to put Keratini ahead of Jiner Diaz.

Speaker 6 (01:17:17):
He's way better right now. Gosh, do you.

Speaker 7 (01:17:25):
Put Yro in the four hole? Do you leave Christian Walker?
They have to strike out with runers in scoring position.

Speaker 12 (01:17:30):
I put You know what, Jiner is only one position
ahead of Christian Walker, and these OPS numbers, the Sinzo
and Jake Myers are hitting way better than those guys
right now.

Speaker 6 (01:17:42):
Yeah, yeah, I meant Jake in the four hoole? Are you.

Speaker 11 (01:17:47):
I guess?

Speaker 12 (01:17:48):
I guess the traditional wisdom would be no. But when
you say past performance is no indication of future success,
that's a lie. In baseball, your past performance is an
indication of future success. Otherwise you wouldn't have anything to
go on. We need we need jord On to come

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back and crush like we know he can crush.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:18:13):
I mean, that's that's absolutely one of the biggest things.
JB appreciate the call. I mean, that's that's the constant
of all of this is he's the guy that makes
this offense go you need him. I mean kind of
like I talked about with you know, Jalen Green. The
Rockets win when Jalen Green scores well, the Astros win
when Jordon hits. You haven't had him for the past
what eleven twelve games, kind for over a month version

(01:18:34):
of yord on that we want to see. That's the problem.
You've seen glimpses, but for the most part, Yeah, you're right.
I mean, like it's one of those Ah, he hit
the ball hard. Oh he hit a single. I'm like,
that's not why I have him in the lineup. I
have him the lineup. Put the ball over the wall.

Speaker 7 (01:18:46):
I mean, if we're gonna complain about Christian Walker hitting
the ball hard right into somebody's glove, you have to
carry that same weight over to Jordon Alvarez. The fact
that he doesn't have double digit home runs at this
point is not concerning. It's the fact that how much
he's striking out, how much he's not working pitches in
his favor, how much he's not making that contact that
you want to see to where he's at least able
to get on base, and he's in the two hole

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or the three hole.

Speaker 6 (01:19:09):
So that's even more concerning.

Speaker 5 (01:19:10):
And you know, I heard Matt and Ross talking about
this yesterday in terms of you know, Jake Myers, Jeremy Pania.

Speaker 6 (01:19:16):
Start with Pania first.

Speaker 5 (01:19:17):
I mean, this is a guy that you're seeing who
is able to lay off of the things that have
hurt him in the past. That slider away, right, He's
hitting sliders now was the point that they brought up.
So that's another good point that I mean, he's starting
to recognize it out of the hand, and he's starting
to see it a little bit better. Obviously able to
put better swings on it. That all helps. And the
Jake Myers good thing that you've seen the problem with

(01:19:40):
him at times has been his plate discipline right in
his zone recognition and being able to actually, you know,
lay off the pitches that he needs to lay off
of and go with the ones that he needs to
go with.

Speaker 6 (01:19:50):
Well, what happened in the second ending last night.

Speaker 7 (01:19:52):
He swung at two pitches that were outside the zone,
watched a fastball up in the zone strike him out.
Three pitches came over. I mean, like that was it,
and you had a runner in scoring position. If you
usually switch that and work account to on a two
to one, you may end up popping out, but at
least you're swinging at the right position. At least you're
attempting to not be so aggressive at the play. And

(01:20:14):
sometimes that's kind of the negative when it comes to
seeing this growth. Is you're excited about Jake Myers giving
you at least contact. You're excited about getting Jake Myers
on the base path, You're excited about seeing his speed
be a valuable asset to you, But he still is
swinging at junk and he's missing the pitches that are
presenting itself as Hey, this is the one that is

(01:20:34):
going to get you a superstardom, This is the one
that's going to get your jersey sales off the shelves,
This is the one that's going to put you on
the pedestal that you've been trying to get to for the.

Speaker 6 (01:20:44):
Last two years.

Speaker 8 (01:20:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:20:47):
I mean, it's just a lot of different things with
this lineup that you just look at and you're just like,
you know, I want to believe in you, guys, I
really do, and I hope that you do finally get
to the point where we can say, Okay, hey, these
guys have finally arrived. But there's also parts of it
that are still not plugged in at where you need
them to be.

Speaker 7 (01:21:04):
Before we got a break, Which move would you rather
see happen tonight? If you were an Ashhos fan, Cam
Smith batting two or Jake Myer's batting three, I'll go
with camp Smith back Nam Smith bating two is one
hundred percent of the right answer.

Speaker 5 (01:21:16):
Yeah, I mean, as much good as Jake has done,
I mean, I'm not doing much moving with him right now.
I would absolutely I thought you're gonna throw out Christian Walker.
If you had said Christian Walker as soon as you
said it would have been like, yeah, move, what.

Speaker 6 (01:21:29):
About Christian Walker in the two hole? Would you try it?
Just to see? I mean, give it a shot. I
mean him at the three.

Speaker 5 (01:21:37):
You've seen him at the five, so I mean, at
this point it just seems like anywhere, but batting him
forth is the right move.

Speaker 7 (01:21:45):
Give you and first give me tonight. Jeremie Panger one,
Christian Walker to Esch paradisc Yanu d Is four. I'll
go Zack to Senzo five, hose Out two Bay six,
Jake Meyers seven.

Speaker 6 (01:21:55):
Give me that lineup. I guarantee you there will at
least be three run scored.

Speaker 5 (01:21:57):
I think they just passed the notes. Joe Spottam. We'll
see if if he takes you up on that note.
All right, your and on Alvarez, the patients is killing us?
How much longer do we need to be patient for?
We'll talk about that here as we start the eight
o'clock hour on the Shawn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (01:22:11):
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in for Sean Triple. Emmanuel Elmore here with you for
a couple more hours. On a Friday. Astros trying to
bounce back tonight after losing last night one nothing at
to the Rangers there in Arlington, eight innings out of
Hunter Brown in the losing effort. The PGA Championship Round

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two underway there in Charlotte and Jonathan Vegas just now
teeing off. He's got a two shot lead there at
seven under and NBA Playoffs, You're going to get Game
six tonight in New York between the Celtics and the Knicks,
and the Knicks have a three to two lead in
that series. The Thunder and Nuggets going to a game

(01:23:39):
seven after Denver able to win last night on their
home floor. Some one three two, one two five seven
ninety the number two get in. Continuing with the Astros
conversation here cole as yesterday again when it comes to
Jordan Alvarez, there's something you want to share with the class.

Speaker 7 (01:23:54):
I'm just laughing aut you so earlier when we were
on break, you're talking about butter Bean knocking out Johnny Knoxville.
Uh huh, I'm watching the clip right now. Yeah, as
he's passed out, we'll get looked at by medical staff.
You're talking about Johnny. Yeah, okay, no, butter he says,
he says, butter Bean was fine. He he was one
of those like, yeah, you ever seen the movie Beer
League with Ralph Maccio and all them, and uh, what's

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it Ari uh not what Arty laying shows up to
the bar and he's got a black guy and the
guy goes, uh, you know, man, you look like you
just got the crap beat out of you. And he goes, oh,
you should see the other guy. He goes, I probably
see him unscathed with some bruce knuckles.

Speaker 6 (01:24:31):
Yeah that was Butterbean. No, that's that's Oh you mean
Butterbean is is not Butterbeans the one? That's fine? No,
of course he is. It's it.

Speaker 7 (01:24:39):
I just laughed so hard that this was a real
thing like that jet that that that the show was
able to have such validity at the point.

Speaker 5 (01:24:46):
I mean, it would make more sense if it was
around now, because then you could just be like, of course, what's.

Speaker 6 (01:24:50):
Just on TikTok sure almal TikTok afternoon. That's true, that's true.

Speaker 5 (01:24:53):
You don't you don't need bam, you don't need uh
we Manryann. I was gonna say, yeah, Ryan done. I
was trying to think of all the other guys.

Speaker 6 (01:25:02):
Steve O.

Speaker 5 (01:25:02):
Yeah, now, trust me. It was part of my Sunday
nights as a kid. I used to love it, except
for I don't even want to mention it because it's
gonna it's gonna honestly give me the chills just mentioning it.

Speaker 6 (01:25:13):
The paper cuts.

Speaker 5 (01:25:14):
Dude, Like I ran out of the theater when that
part happened because I was like, that is just oh,
there is nothing worse this spot.

Speaker 6 (01:25:23):
Porta potty is the only one that I couldn't stand.
I was trying to remember that one, the one where
Steve O was sitting in there and they launched him
fifty feet there.

Speaker 5 (01:25:31):
Yeah, that was the one to where it's like, you know,
it's just it's it's just better not to be the
one in the Port of John.

Speaker 6 (01:25:37):
You had to watch it, and then.

Speaker 7 (01:25:39):
You're watching it on a ninety foot television screen, I
mean on a plasma screen as it is being hurled
in your face.

Speaker 5 (01:25:46):
It's the only way that they make it literally, But
I mean, I guess it felt like it.

Speaker 6 (01:25:50):
The only way it could be worse is if you
put it in forty I guess.

Speaker 5 (01:25:53):
Well, now I'd say the only way it could be
worse is if like you actually were like splashed with
certain things that you don't want to be.

Speaker 6 (01:25:59):
You do you realize four D has that X has
that factor to it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:02):
Well, I mean at least the sensation of it, not
like the actual wafting smell that goes into it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:26:07):
I don't need it. I don't need it. I don't
want it. I don't want any part of It's all right.

Speaker 5 (01:26:11):
Jordan Alvarez really close, according to Joe Aspata yesterday, calling
yesterday one of his best days that he had.

Speaker 6 (01:26:20):
Hitting in the cage.

Speaker 5 (01:26:21):
But this is the thing, though, Cole, when it comes
to the astros and injuries, it just they automatically make
you assume the worst because they soft cell it all
the time with injuries like Lance mccullors for example. Oh,
it's building up, he's looking good. You know all these
things he shut down? What like, how did we get
to that point last year with Kyle Tucker. Oh, it's
a deep bone bruise. It's a deep bone bruise. And

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then finally, right before the playoffs we get the story
of no, he had a fracture in there. Well, thanks,
we couldn't have guessed that from the beginning. Hey, Dan,
how's Louis Garcia doing right now?

Speaker 6 (01:26:52):
I have no clue. Oh no, he's working his way up.
Don't worry.

Speaker 7 (01:26:56):
We're backing around. Yeah, we're seeing the progression. We're we
want it right, right, Hey, how's sank deldo him? By
the way, He's right, he's a cording schedule, right, you
mean twenty twenty six?

Speaker 6 (01:27:06):
Yeah, I know we all know that, Demiko.

Speaker 5 (01:27:08):
We should get it, like you don't want to share
information that you don't have to give away. That's fine.
I get all of that. But it's just it's also though, too.
It's like, at least somewhat be rational about it in
terms of tamping down expectations or not giving certain expectations
for things. Because Joe spot on once once orde On
Alvarez back in the lineup, we all want Youordon Alvarez

(01:27:30):
back in the lineup.

Speaker 7 (01:27:30):
Okay, do you want ard On Alvarez back in the
lineup when he's hitting one twenty five and striking out
with runners and scoring position, or do you want ord
On Alvarez back when he's hitting two to eighty with
three home runs in a four game show.

Speaker 5 (01:27:41):
Clearly I want the second part. But I mean it's
also though. I mean, what causes me to have some
doubts that he's really close? Why isn't he hitting on
the field then?

Speaker 15 (01:27:52):
Why?

Speaker 5 (01:27:52):
I mean, if he's quote unquote really close. Why is
he not hitting on the field. Why why is he
not out there going through workouts where you can see,
oh yeah, hey, looks like in the next day or
two he could be ready to go. That's what That's
what automatically takes me back to the other examples that
I gave in one of the ones that you gave
that he's not really close.

Speaker 7 (01:28:10):
What if he ends up hitting tonight, he doesn't play
in this series, Let's just say it.

Speaker 6 (01:28:15):
Let's call it as is right.

Speaker 7 (01:28:17):
Now, we were told last week that Jordan was close,
could make his return at some point Arlington. Let's say
he doesn't. But let's say he ends up hitting on
the field tonight. It's at least a sign that, yes,
he is close. And if you don't have him for
this series, that's fine.

Speaker 6 (01:28:36):
If you have him for.

Speaker 7 (01:28:37):
Tampa and he comes back and he gives you two
long balls and he's not striking out and his plate
discipline has changed and he's more consistent and he's seeing
the ball better, that's a win because it's a win
for you in the long term.

Speaker 6 (01:28:49):
However, I agree with you on one thing.

Speaker 7 (01:28:52):
Until we see him take the field at batting practice,
it's all nonsense. It's complete Malarchy's just drivel. Nothing is
coming out that is positive because of why are you
not able to just take the field and hit a
couple of diggers or just hit a couple of liners
even for that matter, Because what you're telling us at

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this point is, yeah, he's got a swing down, but
we don't think that his swing is good enough to
be able to post in position. I genuinely wonder is
part of the reason why he hasn't been on the
field is because they still have questions about a swing.

Speaker 6 (01:29:24):
Right now, you're talking about mechanically.

Speaker 5 (01:29:28):
Mechanically, I mean that's the part again that gets back
to the whole hitting in the cages. That doesn't to
me strike me as you're gonna be ready to go.
I'm not saying he needs to go on a rehab assignment,
but okay, what would show me that he's close to
go is simulate a game. You put him out there,
see some pitches, able to see some live somebody that
is throwing aside session that day. Hey, don't go to

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the bullpen, go out to the mound. You're throwing the
yord on here to get things going.

Speaker 7 (01:29:52):
Well, here's gonna be the bigger question. Let's say he
misses another week and a half. Do you send him
to sugar Land just to get live bats.

Speaker 5 (01:30:00):
I think if this carries on another week, yeah, you
have to, because he'd be out for almost a month
at that point.

Speaker 7 (01:30:05):
And I think it's smart for you to do it
at that point because if it would help him build
up his confidence going up against myerly pitching.

Speaker 5 (01:30:11):
I'm not worried about Jordon's confidence. I mean this does
lead you to believe that there was something bothering him
even before you know, you get to early May and
he finally steps out with the injine it's.

Speaker 7 (01:30:22):
A muscle thing, right, sure, So there so there's not
really a timeline on when your muscle's going to properly heal.
That's where you have the question, in my opinion, if
it's a if it's a muscle thing, was the muscle
thing bothering him at the very beginning of all this,
I have to believe?

Speaker 6 (01:30:36):
So Okay, so at this.

Speaker 7 (01:30:37):
Point until it's fully healed and you're watching him consistently
drive the ball, I understand if you want to leave him.

Speaker 5 (01:30:43):
Out, but then don't say that he's on his way back,
and that's the thing that I think was the most.
That is another part of the annoyance levels to this
is that he was not the same yord On.

Speaker 6 (01:30:55):
We we could see that. We all knew it.

Speaker 5 (01:30:57):
I mean, even when Jordan goes through his struggles, which
she does at times, he will go through stretches during
a season where you're like, man, he's just not looking
like himself right now.

Speaker 6 (01:31:05):
He also stretches of three twenty five. That's home.

Speaker 5 (01:31:08):
He's got the Jose Altuve as well, where I mean
al Tuove will look terrible in an at bat and
you're just like, man, this guy is lost. And then
the next app bat he puts one over the wall
and you're just like, there's.

Speaker 6 (01:31:16):
That guy again.

Speaker 5 (01:31:17):
Like I know he's in there. I know he's there,
and I know he's capable of doing it. But you
know that's that's just where you want it all in
the moment, and I get all of that, but it's
just it again just gets back to the inherent distrust
that they've forced us to have. We didn't bring this
on ourselves. We are We've we've been conditioned to feel

(01:31:37):
this way when it comes to injuries because it always
does feel like there's something you're not telling me.

Speaker 7 (01:31:42):
Look, and this would be the last time I bring
it up on the show today. Okay, So if I
do it again, I'll meet myself. You can go ahead,
Triple A, you can mute me if I do it.
I continuous to hear about a hockey team coming to Houston.
I've heard it for a decade now. I've heard people
talk about how Tilman wants to go after and bring
the I forty five rivalry to Toyota Center. I'll believe
it when I see it at this point, because if

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at some moment you have to stop living in a
world of fantasies that this is eventually gonna happen.

Speaker 6 (01:32:10):
When it happens, it happens.

Speaker 7 (01:32:12):
That's where I'm at with jord on him, with really
any injury in this city, because every coach is the
exact same. You don't get answers from me May, you
don't get answers from Joe, you don't get answers from Tomiko.
I'm conditioned at this point to say, you know what,
whenever you take the field. That's why I'll start talking
about it.

Speaker 10 (01:32:27):
E Maai.

Speaker 5 (01:32:28):
I would leave out of that group because I think
for the most part, he is on the level about it.
Where I mean, I just I think that he kind
of just looks at it as look when he's back,
he's back, sure like it's and I understand that we've
kind of railed against that with the Astros and the
Texans on it, But I mean, he's been lucky enough
to not have to deal with it as much. Sure,
and we haven't you know, had you know, the constant

(01:32:49):
questions like I guess for this time this year. You know,
a Men Thompson out for amount of time. You had
also Jabari Smith Junior who was out, which we knew
that Jabari would be out for some time just with
the broken thumb, but that was.

Speaker 6 (01:33:00):
Kind of a given. You didn't have to ask about that.

Speaker 7 (01:33:02):
If anything, you gave him about a month and then said, okay, well,
when's your recovery period, how is the transitioning? Do you
have an update on a timeline of when we could
see him? And for the most part, I'll give you
emy credit. He was direct to the point, but still
we didn't have a direct answer on when we could
expect to see back ATJA Barksmith, we sort of have
a direct answer, when we're going to see back Tank Dell.
We know when we're going to see back Tank Dell.

(01:33:24):
Comme August twenty twenty six. That's when you can expect
him back. I don't know when Luis Garcia is gonna
pitch again. I don't know when I'm gonna see your
not Alvarez at this point, I'm also not trying to
figure out when they're gonna.

Speaker 5 (01:33:35):
Come back, as long as we don't have a receiver
diving into someone's knee in the end zone.

Speaker 6 (01:33:39):
That was like, welva Chared Wayne.

Speaker 5 (01:33:43):
I'm sure he's a nice enough guy, but he wouldn't
have been on my football team after that.

Speaker 6 (01:33:47):
He wasn't supposed to be on the field.

Speaker 7 (01:33:48):
I mean, let's call it as is at that point,
with how the hell makes you think that you're going
to make a diving catch in the end zone? Like,
what honestly makes you believe that you're going to pull
that football?

Speaker 6 (01:33:58):
Well, what makes you think that Tank Dell's not gonna
make that?

Speaker 12 (01:33:59):
Can?

Speaker 5 (01:34:00):
I think as much more? Well, he did make the
catch problem and then you ran into him.

Speaker 7 (01:34:04):
Well, that's what I'm saying is that if I'm looking
at this from Jared Wayne's perspective. I know how consistent
Tank is. He's gonna make that catch. I'm gonna slow down.
That's what I'm trying to do at that point. I
know what's coming. I know the three is in the
back of the end zone for six.

Speaker 5 (01:34:17):
Two years in a row, think Dell rough spot to
be Brad see you right there. We'll get you involved
if you want to join him. Seven one three, two
one two five seven ninety. Hunter Brown absolutely masterful last night.
We'll talk about him here. It is the Sean Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
Let the celebration start or Sean Salisbury. It's a Sean
Salisbury show.

Speaker 6 (01:34:43):
Brag, Good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 8 (01:34:47):
Uh. I want to say you real quick. He got
a high shrilled voice, but you impressed the heck at
of me. Man during the NFL Draft home.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
I didn't know where you were.

Speaker 12 (01:35:00):
From or how they found.

Speaker 8 (01:35:01):
You, but I was going this guy knows his stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:35:05):
Rod.

Speaker 7 (01:35:06):
I appreciate it, Buddy. I appreciate that I have a
high strolled voice too. But what's up, Man, Don't start
speaking with a deep voice now. I can't even try
to hide it anymore.

Speaker 8 (01:35:16):
I got two questions to ask about the NFL, but
that with the Astros, I'm not going to complain about
all these guys. I was hoping that maybe Jim Crane
could get with the Dana of the GM, the expert
when it comes to drafting, and instead of signing these
over thirty two year old first basement of that had

(01:35:38):
pseudo Hall of Fame careers before they got to be
thirty two, he needs to stop paying those guys. He
needs to get Dana to look in the draft and go, hey, Dan,
I want you to find out all these high school
and college guys some first basement for me, please and
put them in the system.

Speaker 12 (01:35:58):
I want to develop, well.

Speaker 8 (01:36:00):
Uh, some that have big guys that have potential to
be a major leaguer instead of paying you know, that's
what Darryl Moore used to do. That's why he'll never win.
I mean, when you think you can buy talent, sometimes
it'll work, but you have to have the youngsters too,
and I wish they would stop. And then Cam needs

(01:36:22):
to go into the minor leagues and see how good
he really is. And after a month there they go, Okay,
we know Cam is better than trivia A.

Speaker 6 (01:36:31):
Now you know, now.

Speaker 8 (01:36:33):
You can start playing him every day instead of playing
him once and then letting him sit for half a
week or whatever and then playing him. That's not the
way to do it.

Speaker 13 (01:36:44):
That's my two obvious things. And then with the NFL
real quick, I saw so many experts picking why did
why did I know the obvious answer. The Texans rather
moved back I can get more players, or maybe they
were in love with Iowa State Burdell or what's his name?

(01:37:05):
It went to the Bears early second rounds.

Speaker 8 (01:37:10):
Yeah, I'm surprised if Texans didn't get him, or I'm
even surprised they all had. The Chiefs got that offensive
lineman with the last pick that they had, the Texans
getting him. Why didn't the Texans like either one of
those guys versus the rest of the guys that they
did take. And I'll listen, thanks, thank you very much.

Speaker 6 (01:37:32):
Yeah, why don't you take that last part first?

Speaker 7 (01:37:35):
The thing with loser Burden is I was speaking to
some people around the league and the same narrative that
came back around him was from a culture perspective, just
not a Texans guy. Just the things that were really
bothersome toward his overall persona didn't mesh with the organization's philosophy.

(01:37:56):
So whether or not you liked the guy, if he
doesn't mesh with your locker room and your culture and
your identities, then you're.

Speaker 6 (01:38:01):
Not gonna draft him. And there were a lot of.

Speaker 7 (01:38:03):
People that didn't have that far of a great off
Jayane Higgins and Luther Burden, so they want six picks
apart from each other, So maybe that could be a reason.

Speaker 6 (01:38:12):
I mean, don't get me wrong, I love the Jalen nolepick.

Speaker 7 (01:38:15):
I think the Jalen nolepick is the slam duck of
the entire Day two for any team.

Speaker 6 (01:38:19):
And that's not being from Houston.

Speaker 7 (01:38:20):
That's just a straight up I'm getting a consistent eight
hundred yard pass catcher, somebody that's gonna get me thirteen touchdowns,
Somebody that can at least get me, I would say,
at the NFL level, be a solid number three and
an offense that already features a number one and went
healthy a decent number two. So I like this election,
and I think Jay Higgins is a fine player, So
I'm not trying to downplay that one.

Speaker 6 (01:38:40):
With the offensive.

Speaker 7 (01:38:41):
Line, you're risking when it comes to Josh Himmins and
the thing with Simmons is this is somebody who he
was coming off with potella injury. It's not a torn
acl Little things like the patella injury are always going
to be based off of your recovery process. If it
doesn't heal, you're eventually going to put yourself in a

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position where regression will send it or more importantly, any
setbacks can cost you an entire season.

Speaker 6 (01:39:11):
The Texans are in win now mode.

Speaker 7 (01:39:13):
Josh Simmons, if he's not fully healthy, does not help
the Texans right now. Where an Arianta Ursri, who may
not be ready week one but could be ready by
week six, could eventually be a better option than what
you have with I don't know, Cam Robinson, God forbid,
Blake Fisher doesn't improve. Who knows what we're gonna get
from from Tyas Howard, who knows where Tyas Howard is

(01:39:33):
gonna play. He gives you right now the chance to
be able to go out and see meaningful reps where
you're one play away from Josh Simmons being out for
all twenty twenty five and still having question marks on
the offensive line. And it's a bad look for Nick
Casserio because now you have an injured, plagued defensive lineman.

Speaker 6 (01:39:50):
So I don't hate it. I personally would have taken
the risk.

Speaker 7 (01:39:53):
I think, at his peak, Josh Simmons is the best
offensive lineman in this year's draft. But I also understand
that you cannot risk when you have a franchise quarterback
coming off of being sacked fifty two times last year,
the opportunity to have him potentially get hurt even more.

Speaker 5 (01:40:09):
Well, those are things that you hope don't carry over
this year, because I mean, you were thinking that the
offensive line play would carry over from the season before,
even though they probably played above their heads. Well then
the following season they did not play to that level.
A guy that did play to that level last night
on the mound, Hunter Brown and his stat line eight innings, pitch,
three hits. He gives up that one arned run to

(01:40:31):
Jake Berger, who of course did the Pope celebration as
he went back to the dugout, which I didn't mind. Hey, look,
you know, if Pope Leo's giving you a little bit
of an extra boost there since coming back, well, then
go with it. But nine strikeouts, no walks, and does
give up that one home run a one point four
to three era on the season for Hunter Brown, and

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he takes his second loss of the season because in
both of those losses, your offense scores one one run.

Speaker 7 (01:41:00):
You can only ask for so much. It's like when
we talk about good Fromber versus bad Fromber? Is it
really bad Fromber or is it just no run support
because of you got great Fromber a couple nights ago.

Speaker 5 (01:41:11):
I would say that the bad Fromber part of it
is the perceived blow ups that he has. Sure where
you get the little dribbler up the third base line,
he throws it away, and then you know, he starts
to continuously do the walk behind the mound halfway between
the mound and second base thing, and you're like, uh, oh,
that's not good. He's frustrated, he's annoying, he's annoyed with himself,
and then you start to see it kind of filter

(01:41:34):
into some of his pitches, and some of his pitches
start to get hit hard.

Speaker 7 (01:41:37):
But it also does get frustrating when let's say you
have runners in scoring position and now you're sending a
guy to the plate and he's not working a pitch
count in your favor, So now you're immediately going back
out to the mound with no run support, you give
up a solo shot and you realize, now it's the
sixth inning, we're down by two.

Speaker 6 (01:41:54):
I'm gonna have.

Speaker 7 (01:41:55):
To keep this game in control just to give ourselves
a chance because I can't trust my offense to build
out of trouble this night.

Speaker 6 (01:42:01):
And so those are little.

Speaker 7 (01:42:02):
Things that also are frustrating when it comes to Fromber.
It's the same thing when it comes to Hunter Brown.
There have been so many moments where you didn't need
to worry about run support for Hunter because the bats
were actually alive when he was out there. He shouldn't
have two losses on his radar right now because in
both games he was phenomenal. The game that he went
what was it his last outing was against US?

Speaker 6 (01:42:22):
Was it Cincinnati?

Speaker 12 (01:42:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:42:24):
It was that Friday night? Was that Friday night game
againt Cincinnati?

Speaker 7 (01:42:26):
That was arguably his worst start, and he got the
win because if he still went over five innings and
the offense picked up and that was enough. That's the
frustrating part is that you can have a bad game,
or what we would call a bad game from Hunter Brown,
because no game is bad at this point and at
least your offense is getting the job done. In both losses,

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it's because of he delivered dominance and the offense delivered
a dune.

Speaker 5 (01:42:51):
Well again, you don't have a one point four to
three era by mistake, and Hunter Brown definitely has earned
the six and two record this year. You just would
have liked to have been eight to no at this
point with the way that those starts are gone.

Speaker 7 (01:43:02):
What did you make of conversation I'm bringing in a
first basement because if you're okay, so Walker, ye.

Speaker 6 (01:43:07):
That's what the first one was.

Speaker 5 (01:43:08):
Okay, Yeah, So I was trying, Brad, I gotta be
honest with you, man, like I kind of spaced out
there for a second. That I'm back because I can
thank young Cole right here for helping me out on that.
I am like, and we can talk about this on
the other side because that is something that I feel
like when it comes to contracts with this team, I
can't really understand.

Speaker 6 (01:43:27):
And and we'll leave it there. We can.

Speaker 5 (01:43:31):
We'll leave it there, sure, all right, So Jeff Oak
forrest c right there. We'll get you involved in the
conversation as we'll continue this on the other side. Right here,
it is the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety and.

Speaker 10 (01:43:42):
I had to live there.

Speaker 1 (01:43:43):
But the Shawn Salisbury Show continued, Oh yeah, that's right,
the complete and total implosion.

Speaker 7 (01:43:51):
And then Russell Westbrook missing a wide open three airballing
it well fully enough. He was the closer last night exactly.
He made his redemption out in the Mile High City.

Speaker 6 (01:43:59):
Good for him.

Speaker 7 (01:44:00):
I'm I'm not complaining about it, because again I think the.

Speaker 6 (01:44:02):
NBA is right. They're trying to make sure the ratings
stay up on the over the weekend.

Speaker 5 (01:44:05):
To the Astros, how they handle certain players with contracts,
We'll get to that in a second, but Jeff and
o Forrest has promised good morning.

Speaker 16 (01:44:13):
Jeff, heany good morning guys.

Speaker 8 (01:44:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:44:16):
On the Astros, we have the prospect of abundance of
pitching once they're Arrogetti gets back on the mound and
a lot of good arms when they're when they're good,
certainly nobody's pitching better than Hunter. But the problem with
the team is the absentee power hitter, clean up hitter,

(01:44:40):
your dome, the guys injured most of his career. Kind
of surprising me. The cut injuries that he comes up
with and when he's out of the lineup. Uh, they
have no obviously person to fill those shoes. Even last
year when he was not on the team was not

(01:45:03):
able to They just seem to lack confidence without him
swinging his bat when he was on a roll. And
you know, last year he had a good average, so
they were even talking about, oh, a triple Crown possibility.
I don't know if I would consider him a triple
Crown player yet with his career basically because of the

(01:45:26):
injuries that have come up every year. And he did
win US the World Series because he got hot and
he was a difference maker in beating the Phillies. But
until you're done stays healthy and stays on the field,
this Astros just don't have the bats to hang in there,

(01:45:46):
even if they're going to get the good pitching, because
you've got Seattle's got a bunch of great arms. Texas
surprisingly this year is having good starting pitching. We'll see
if the Graham stays healthy and the old adies have
the problems the best bets.

Speaker 6 (01:46:02):
In the division.

Speaker 16 (01:46:03):
That's my opinion. So just that's my time, my guys.
I wish You're done could be on the field more.
That would make a big difference.

Speaker 6 (01:46:12):
I appreciate the call, Jeff.

Speaker 5 (01:46:13):
I mean, you know, we've already shared our thoughts about
Jordan and how important he is this team, and I
mean he has to be a given for your team.
I mean, that's that's the built into all of this.
Like if everything that Jeff just laid out is exactly
what we've said.

Speaker 6 (01:46:27):
No yord on, no chances, I don't know whatsoever.

Speaker 7 (01:46:30):
I don't think I've asked you this yet, but when
you walked into this season, what were the expectations internally
for you with this Astros team?

Speaker 5 (01:46:37):
That they would compete and that they probably could still
win the division. But I mean when it came to
the lineup, I had some concerns more towards the end
of the lineup.

Speaker 6 (01:46:44):
But the funny thing is that's.

Speaker 7 (01:46:46):
Been the group that's probably been the most consistent out
of the wild card round, at least making the divisional round.

Speaker 6 (01:46:52):
That was it.

Speaker 7 (01:46:52):
You could win the division, win the first playoff round,
and get to the final four in the American League.

Speaker 6 (01:46:57):
You did that. I think you're so solid with.

Speaker 5 (01:47:00):
This pitching that you have, and that's that's where the
lineup comes in, because it's as simple as that you know.
I brought up the Jalen Green example earlier with the Rockets.
We saw what happen. Jalen Green scores, the Rockets win.
That's that is the long and short of it.

Speaker 6 (01:47:14):
That's how it goes. We were talking about this last night.
If Yeahsro's hit, they win.

Speaker 7 (01:47:17):
If you put Cam Whitmore in Jalen Green's minutes and
he ends up learning how to play defense, does he
end up giving you more consistent offense?

Speaker 5 (01:47:26):
I would say right now, he definitely can score a
lot better than Jalen can consistently.

Speaker 6 (01:47:31):
Yeah. Sure, I would.

Speaker 7 (01:47:31):
Trust Cam Whitmore with the same amount of minutes to
average fifteen plus per night than I would Jayalen Green.

Speaker 5 (01:47:38):
I just know that I'm not going to get the
drop off that I get with Jalen Green. With sure,
you're not going.

Speaker 7 (01:47:41):
To get the roller coaster you kind of it is
to see is what you get kind of feel with it,
and I agree with you on this when it comes
to the pitching side, especially the bullpen. After this last
home stand, I mean, it was phenomenal. If you told
me that that was your bullpen throughout the playoffs, I
can imagine this team hoisting up another trophy I could,
because it's possible to imagine with that many left handers,

(01:48:03):
with that many options, that you're not gonna be in
a position to where you win your counts.

Speaker 6 (01:48:08):
But then you had to go to throw in the offense,
and so like, yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:48:11):
Opinions change, and opinions certainly can be altered overnight.

Speaker 6 (01:48:14):
But I still have questions when it came to this offense.
Think about it.

Speaker 7 (01:48:18):
You're having a second baseman play left field, because if
you have to have somebody out there and you trust
that his bat wasn't gonna fall off the face of
the earth. You have a third baseman that's twenty three
years old, while most of his other draftees are in
the Double A level starting for you on opening day.
You have questions when it comes to your second base

(01:48:38):
because if you don't know if you can trust Mauricio's
bat or Brendan Rodgers's bat, or even at this point
Brendan Rodgers' defense. There were holes coming into this season,
but now because of your wasting pitches, I'm pitching performances
like you saw last night from Hunter Brown, like you
saw in Kansas City against Fromber when he went the
full game that's the frustrating part, because you're not gonna
have that in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 5 (01:48:59):
We again too. I mean to your point about Al
two V. I mean the reason he was moved out there,
and I remember people, oh, it's going to be a disaster,
all these different things. I think he's been really relatively
for the expectations I had for what he could give
you out in left field.

Speaker 7 (01:49:12):
I think he's exceeded. He hasn't disappointed me. Defensively, I'll
give it that right.

Speaker 5 (01:49:17):
But that was the whole thing is when people were
saying that, I said, you're missing the whole point of
why they're doing it. They're doing it because at the
time we thought that the outfield was going to be
he and left, Jake Myerson center, and Chaz McCormick can
right in. The wildcard of all that was McCormick, because
you're like, oh, man, if we get Chaz from a
couple of years ago, well that's a huge if, because
you wonder if last year was who you're really going
to see the rest of his career, not the guy

(01:49:38):
that he'd been the previous years.

Speaker 6 (01:49:40):
Well, we talked about it for two years.

Speaker 7 (01:49:42):
Was it worth keeping Chas on the roster when there
were fielding reports on, Hey, you can bring in this
frontline pitcher. Maybe it'd be a number three guy, maybe
a number four guy, but at least you bring in
a picture that would help out your system in a
year to where you feel like that maybe your pitching's
a little bit down. And no, you want to hold
on to him because if you thought, well, he's giving
you a great defense. And I'm not saying he hasn't.
Defensively hasn't been the problem for him. It's the offensive consistency.

(01:50:06):
But that could have been a White Sox problem. And
you could have Garat Crochet down here as your frontline
starter in a one two three combination with fromber Valdez
and a Hunter Brown. And the best part is Dan,
we wouldn't be having the conversation of well do you
have to pay Hunter Brown now? Because of if you don't,
he may end up out working himself to get a
nine year contract by the Dodgers or by the Yankees,

(01:50:28):
or by the Mets or somebody else. To where you
know that you have two guys locked in in fromber Hey,
guess what, we're.

Speaker 5 (01:50:33):
Good Because that's the thing too, that I didn't want
to get into is when it comes to guys like
Hunter Brown and you know Jeremy Pania.

Speaker 6 (01:50:41):
We have to do it now, but we know, we
know how Jim Crane is.

Speaker 5 (01:50:43):
When it comes to contracts, you break the rule for
guys like that. And the rule is obviously you know
the five years, not going north of that. I'll go
seven to eight years with those guys. I'm willing to
pay those guys. To Brad's point, I mean, break yourself
of this habit of paying guys north of thirty like
it needs to be. The NFL mindset of hey, find

(01:51:04):
the running back, don't pay them. Although now we've seen
it with Derek Henry. Teams are paying the running backs.
But at this point, for the most part, you're not
getting the same player that you got from the place
that they were just coming from. You're getting them for
a reason because the other team said, we're not giving
you that money.

Speaker 7 (01:51:19):
A GM once told me, there's a reason why a
free agent is a free agent. There's a reason why
we're letting him hit the open market because you're not
getting the same player that you envision when initially drafted.
Don't let Hunter Brown hit the market. Don't let you
be paying hit the market. And if I have to
overspend a little bit to keep paying in my lineup,
I'm content with that because if I just watched two

(01:51:40):
players that right now probably would have us in a
five game division lead over everybody else, kill it in
Chicago and kill it in Boston because I didn't want
to meet them with the contracts. I'm watching a pitcher
who's gonna get probably one hundred and seventy five, if
not two hundred million this offseason, kill it this year,
and he'll probably be on a six year deal. But
I could have offered that same six seven year deal

(01:52:02):
two years ago. I'd much rather overpay, give a ten
year contract a Hunter Brown know that he's locked in
as my ace, then watch him leave and crush it
with another team while I am still being too stagnant
and more importantly, too stubborn to understand. If I don't
pay these guys, somebody else will, and I at the help,

(01:52:23):
I'm drafting the right way, I'm developing the right way
in the minors.

Speaker 5 (01:52:25):
Well, I mean, adapter fall behind, and that's what the
astros I think are finding out right now. And again,
I mean, maybe you can finally learn from your lessons,
you know, when it's all said and done, and who
knows what you get for the rest of the way
out of Christian Walker. But I mean, it just kind
of seems like it's, you know, repeating itself all over
again when it comes to the way that you've handled
building your roster. All right, what if an astro's legend

(01:52:48):
was never an astro's legend? What sounds like that almost happened.
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Speaker 5 (01:54:42):
Are you aware now we've talked about jose Al Tuvey
not in terms of being an Astros legend, even though
he is. No matter what he does the rest of
his career, he will forever be number twenty seven up
in the rafters, a legend for this team, for everything
that he's done for not only the organization, but for
the city. We love jose Al Tuovy. I mean, the
hearts will never go away when it comes to jose

(01:55:04):
Al Tuovay. Are you aware that there was a chance
that the legend was almost never made?

Speaker 7 (01:55:10):
Sadly because if I had heard this audio yesterday when
I was on the A team, but I would like.

Speaker 6 (01:55:15):
To hear it again because of somebody decided to say.

Speaker 7 (01:55:18):
And it drives me crazy when you openly misprint out
somebody's name for whatever reason, like it feels like it's
a slap in the.

Speaker 6 (01:55:27):
Face like that you truly I have more.

Speaker 7 (01:55:30):
I think it's more disrespectful when you don't when you
say someone's name wrong than actually not knowing so.

Speaker 5 (01:55:36):
Former Royals executive Dayton Moore was on the Digging Deep
podcast with Eric Hosmer, Mike Mstakis and Moilo.

Speaker 6 (01:55:44):
Peter Moylin. We need to get him on the show.
Moilo is the best.

Speaker 5 (01:55:47):
What a great guy, Australian reliever, hell of a baseball
guy and does a great job with the guys over
there on Digging Deep.

Speaker 6 (01:55:54):
Do you think Osmer has a punchable face? I like Cosmer,
I think so.

Speaker 7 (01:55:58):
Why I see was bringing this up yesterday and the
Hawsmer has a punchabule face. I think Musakas has a
punchable face. Of the two, I would rather punch Mustokas.

Speaker 6 (01:56:05):
Than I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:56:06):
I would say that probably of the two that could
probably be able to deliver a shot backs Stockins, He's
not the one I'm gonna try. I mean, both of
them look like they could probably land a hell of
a punch. But I would say miss Stoccas is probably
the one that leaves the lasting, the lasting mark on you.

Speaker 6 (01:56:23):
He still know, George Clooney, I don't get it. Do
you see the movie Little Nikki?

Speaker 12 (01:56:29):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:56:29):
Yeah, you still know? George Clooney, that'scas.

Speaker 5 (01:56:33):
All right, fair enough. I don't want to a movie
reference that I didn't get you finally got me. You
stuck a fastball by for you. There you go. But
former Royals executive Dayton Moore was on the show with
them and he talked about the chance that Jose Altuve
could have been a Royals legend.

Speaker 17 (01:56:51):
We were in Houston in thirteen and I got a
call from Jeff lou Now. I was setting with the
Starbucks coffee and he said, I got a deal for you.
It's okay. He said, I'll trade you out to Day
for Eric Hosmer. That's one.

Speaker 6 (01:57:07):
Is that real? That's real? Oh well, I said, no, man,
I didn't like trading. I didn't like trading major league players.
There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:57:21):
You had Eric Cosmer saying, well, you're an idiot man
that guy absolutely, you know, deal me for that guy
for sure?

Speaker 7 (01:57:28):
You mean a two time MVP guy. Yeah, definitely, definitely
was the wrong move. It was twenty thirteen, that's what
he said. Right, So we're talking about right before Osmer's break,
because let me give you his numbers from twenty thirteen
until he left for San Diego in twenty eighteen three
oh one, three oh two, two ninety seven two sixty

(01:57:52):
six three eighteen two fifty three batting average homers seventeen eighteen,
twenty five, twenty five, eighteen twenty two fifty nine RBIs
ninety three, RBIs one oh four, ninety four sixty nine,
ninety nine.

Speaker 6 (01:58:12):
It wouldn't have been a bad trade. Well, was that
second to last RBI total? Ninety nine? Nice? Nice?

Speaker 7 (01:58:18):
It wouldn't have been a bad trade because of jose
Al Tuve, the legend that we talk about, the real
legend that we love.

Speaker 6 (01:58:24):
He hadn't been made yet, and so I.

Speaker 7 (01:58:26):
Have this theory everything happens for a reason. He didn't
sign with any other organization the first time around, came
back with the Astros. The Astros gave him a second chance.
The Astros saw something in him, signed to a minor
league deal. Eventually became the five five goat that we
all love and cherish today. Would he have done that

(01:58:47):
in Kansas City?

Speaker 6 (01:58:51):
Because I don't think so.

Speaker 7 (01:58:53):
So when you say it's an idiot, you're an idiot.

Speaker 6 (01:58:57):
I don't know if he is.

Speaker 7 (01:58:58):
Because, if anything, maybe talk about this being a genius
move by Jeff Luno, not Lunaw or whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:59:06):
Starbucks. You're getting caught up in the road. Just say
it right, Okay? If I called you Daniel, would you
be upset?

Speaker 11 (01:59:12):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:59:13):
Really, I'm gonna call you Daniel for the rest of
the show. That's fine. Be okay with that?

Speaker 5 (01:59:17):
Yeahel What if I called you Matthew? I mean, you
can call me whatever you want. It's not necessarily gonna
bother me.

Speaker 7 (01:59:24):
See it bothers me that you It doesn't bother you.
I couldn't get under your scull on that one. But no,
I'm just saying it's not a bad move.

Speaker 6 (01:59:31):
I know how to say my name right, and I
think most people know.

Speaker 7 (01:59:33):
So do you think that he knows how to say
Jeff Luno's name right? Maybe he will now because I
think he's lying.

Speaker 6 (01:59:40):
To us that the deal was ever on the table.

Speaker 7 (01:59:42):
Personally, I think there were so many cards in there
that that says that it wasn't true. Number one who
goes to a Starbucks and just sits down and has
a coffee tons of people, I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:59:53):
I think. I think you. I think you're weird if
you do that, well, I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:59:55):
You're you're in another city. So I mean, yeah, it's
just go there, have a nice cup of off. He
kind of relaxed a little bit. I mean, I don't
doubt that the trade was ever available. I'm gonna disagree
with you on that because you saw Luno at the time,
who was looking for every way, shape and possible to
be able to advance this organization to to a point
where the line that rafel Stone had last week nobody's untouchable.

(02:00:18):
Jeff Luna was living to that to a tee at
the time, Okay, like if somebody made the deal that
he would have liked to have made, that he would
have felt like was the right compensation to send Jose
l two Va away, Jose al Tuove would have been gone.

Speaker 7 (02:00:31):
So what would you have done second base? Then at
that point be able to find somebody else, because I
mean because eventually, who did you find to play first base?
He found Juli Grio and it ended up being one
of the better signings for you over the next course
of six years. And that's been a question that so
many people have been looking for because if you're saying,
when we paid this amount of dollars to bring in
a Jose of bray, you, we could have just kept

(02:00:51):
Yuli out there and he would have been hitting at
least his body weight. So it's like if you had
a consistent first baseman like Airic Cosmer. The way that
he was and the trajectory that he was going in
as a first round pick in two thousand and eight,
I think gave you some bit of hope and validity
that he would have carried that same transition over.

Speaker 6 (02:01:08):
I don't know if you.

Speaker 7 (02:01:09):
Would have had that same deal with jose Al Tuo
Bay if he was in Kansas City. JOSEL two Bay,
I think is a part of Houston. I think that
is one thing that is a huge blessing towards the
city and towards twenty seven they needed each other to
really hit their stride. I don't know if you get
that version of Jose Al Tuvan in Kansas City in
Coppin Stadium, I mean when you do get that version

(02:01:30):
of Eric Osmer here.

Speaker 5 (02:01:31):
When he I would say that probably Jose Al Twove
became Jose Al Tuove in twenty fifteen, right, and that's
when he was one of the best hitters in baseball,
regardless of the park, regardless of where he was playing.

Speaker 6 (02:01:41):
He was one of the best players in the game
at the time.

Speaker 7 (02:01:43):
Right, But Eric Hosmer was also at the time one
of the best players in the game, and I think
that that wasn't going to slow down, And honestly, looking
at where Kaufman is and looking at what what Dyiken is,
you probably would have gotten more home runs, more RBIs
a higher ops US, a higher OPB with Haswer in
the stadium, at least when it came to home games.

(02:02:04):
Like the way that we talk about Essich parades sending
it out to the left field, I feel that way
about Eric Cosmer and Haswer.

Speaker 6 (02:02:10):
I think would have been the same.

Speaker 7 (02:02:11):
All Star would have had the same amount numbers, and
as long as you were willing to offer him the contract,
you wouldn't have watched them go off to San Diego.

Speaker 5 (02:02:18):
Could we have been talking about Astro's legend Eric Hosmer
now mister Destiny type of stuff. And the Astros decided
to go their way, and the Royals decided to go
their way, and well for the Royals and fifteen it
worked out, and for the Astros in seventeen and twenty two,
same deal there, all right, So let's continue the Astros
conversation here to start the nine o'clock hour, because expectations

(02:02:38):
for this guy, I think you got to keep them low.
We'll talk about it here. It is Sean Salisbury Show,
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Emmanuel Elmore. Astros lose last night one nothing to the
Rangers in Arlington, NBA Playoffs, the Knicks in Celtics tonight
Game six there in New York and Boston trying to
send it back for a game seven. That's what the

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Thunder were unable to prevent last night because the Nuggets
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Goober?

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Was the one that you annoyed yesterday?

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Who do you root for a buddy?

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would have thought that they came. You would have thought
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Speaker 6 (02:06:24):
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Sorry for who? Are you excited for? Jometear?

Speaker 10 (02:06:30):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:06:30):
Why?

Speaker 7 (02:06:32):
No?

Speaker 6 (02:06:32):
Why I need answers for this one? You said this
is on Instagram? Yes, I see Sam filtered.

Speaker 7 (02:06:37):
Oh okay, I say, go to go to my Instagram
page at McCole underscore, Thompson shameless plug.

Speaker 6 (02:06:42):
Why are you not excited for Jeometier man? No, that's
not who we need. Who do you need then? Somebody
other than that arch Manning? Possibly? See? I would you
would take arch Man?

Speaker 1 (02:06:53):
I would?

Speaker 17 (02:06:53):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (02:06:54):
I am telling you you're over under his currently set
at six and a half. I am hammering the over
on Oklahom. I'm a football in twenty twenty five, hammering,
lay it down, tripley, do it again, hammer it.

Speaker 6 (02:07:07):
There we go. That's what we want to hear this morning.
Even though I do think that Texas is going to
win the SEC fair enough, I got it.

Speaker 5 (02:07:14):
I've just I've got to see these and see if
people have an actual gripe, and if I feel like
they do, okay, well then I'm going to join the crowd.
Go ahead, I'm going to join in with the pitchforks
and everybody else who's coming after you and be like, yeah,
what is this guy?

Speaker 7 (02:07:26):
Now?

Speaker 6 (02:07:26):
What a loser?

Speaker 8 (02:07:27):
Man?

Speaker 5 (02:07:27):
The torpedoes, let's go what do you? What do you
think it's I haven't seen it yet, so I can't.
I can't go all the way through if you know,
being like, yeah, who is this guy?

Speaker 1 (02:07:36):
What a moral?

Speaker 6 (02:07:37):
Here's my playoff?

Speaker 7 (02:07:37):
Then?

Speaker 6 (02:07:38):
What a casual?

Speaker 1 (02:07:39):
Number One?

Speaker 7 (02:07:41):
I hate that words so much. That is the one
college football team term. I can't stummach the casuals Well,
I knew they would draw you off sides. That's why
I did it.

Speaker 1 (02:07:49):
Number One.

Speaker 6 (02:07:50):
I have Penn State.

Speaker 7 (02:07:51):
I think they're the most complete team of college football
this year number two. I have Texas number three. I
have Clemson number four. I have Texas Tech winning the
Big twelve five through five through twelve. I got oh
House it at five, l s U at six, Oregon
at seven, eight is Notre Dame nine, Georgia ten, Alabama eleven,

(02:08:12):
Arizona State twelve, U and l BE.

Speaker 6 (02:08:14):
That's my playoffs. Yeah, I'm not seeing you.

Speaker 5 (02:08:16):
I'm seeing something about sunflower seeds here from Chris and
sec unfiltered.

Speaker 6 (02:08:24):
To my page. I'm good, good to find you. But okay,
so play round one. Send it to me. Okay, there
we go. That's that's the easiest way. All right. That's
a year.

Speaker 5 (02:08:36):
Seven minutes of college football talk here on the Sean
Salisbury Show this morning. Actually I lied because we have
something that involves Brits a little bit later and the
something around college football.

Speaker 1 (02:08:45):
So we'll do that.

Speaker 13 (02:08:48):
The hour.

Speaker 5 (02:08:49):
Well, don't give it away too, you know, I'm not
going to We don't. We don't bring out the good
stuff until later, all right. You know it's it's like
you bring out the fine china for certain people and
then for others. Uh, you know, we got paper plates,
did you see, by the way, the same Brits have.
I think that energy drinks was the four logo. Oh
they tried one, well, they thought it was a four lok.
They thought a four logo was.

Speaker 6 (02:09:08):
An energy drink. Mm, well I have seen before, Like,
well was it.

Speaker 5 (02:09:12):
There was this one girl on TikTok whose dad thought
that one of the seltzers was an energy drink and
he you know, said that. He was like, yeah, then
I started to wonder why I started to feel so
good at work.

Speaker 6 (02:09:25):
And then now now he knew.

Speaker 7 (02:09:26):
Which one was it, you know. Ah, Okay, some of
them were completely different. I think I think it was
a claw Okay, but the claws are week dude, Like,
I can drink about twelve and I feel fine.

Speaker 6 (02:09:37):
Well, I mean again, he was an older guy, so
I mean probably not. I don't. I don't know. Do
you like the ones I haven't tried them? Okay?

Speaker 7 (02:09:44):
To me, those are the ones that actually do damage.
Like that's the one where it's like, I am not
making plans. I'm not going out tonight if I'm having
tumbaci go at home.

Speaker 6 (02:09:50):
Oh, if I'm day drinking in a pool.

Speaker 5 (02:09:52):
It's no longer the days of go back take a
little bit of a nap, get up and rally and
go Now, it's it's very much.

Speaker 7 (02:10:00):
Just go back to the house and that's that's gonna
be the night. That's how it goes. Let me ask you,
because I've never asked you this before. Are you more
of a day drinker? And then let's just chew at
home now? Or okay, yes very much. So you're in
eleven am, crack open a nice cold when enjoy myself.
Five pm, go home, take an Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:10:14):
The only time that I'll stay up late now is
I mean it's the old PAC twelve after dark, but
you know, any of the West Coast games if it's
compelling enough, then I'll stay a CC after dark now
or even Big ten.

Speaker 6 (02:10:25):
Yeah, you get both Big twelve. I mean you know,
I'm sorry. I won't get over it.

Speaker 7 (02:10:32):
You can't convince me that there should be a game
that is called a conference matchup between wake Forest and Stanford.

Speaker 6 (02:10:38):
And you're watching it on the Big ten network. No,
you're watching the c W. No, you're watching the c W.

Speaker 7 (02:10:43):
Now these days where what was his name? Who is
the quarterback that was really big for.

Speaker 6 (02:10:49):
Sharman Noll?

Speaker 5 (02:10:50):
Is you one to usc we we put together a
promo at my old spot for the CW game of
the Week for the ACC and it was like all
the shows stick around for the Golden Girls afterwards, after
six and five in c State takes on four and
seven Wake Forest.

Speaker 7 (02:11:08):
By the way, do you know who's there ahead play
by play guy? That's Tom Bremen A long five ball field. Well,
now you saw it last year when he had Thomas Castillanos. Yeah,
and he was like, Thomas Costianos, how about that.

Speaker 6 (02:11:22):
Having some fun with it? Good on top. I can
appreciate that at this point.

Speaker 7 (02:11:26):
No, he's embraced it at this at this moment, which,
by the way, Nick Casianos can't keep getting away with
it any single time that something bad happens in society.

Speaker 5 (02:11:34):
You know, he didn't Homer after the pope died, though,
I mean that was the one that people thought was
gonna be a for sure, Like everybody was hammering that
bet that day the day that the pope died. Yeah,
he was going to Homer and he didn't do it.

Speaker 6 (02:11:44):
Okay, did he Homer the day that they've elected Poplio?
I have no idea.

Speaker 7 (02:11:48):
That's a big question that I have at this point.
What's the next big major event that's going to happen.
We're Nick Castillanos.

Speaker 5 (02:11:55):
Something could probably happen today. The way that this simulation
that's life is going.

Speaker 6 (02:11:58):
I appreciate the simulation keeps me on edge.

Speaker 5 (02:12:02):
I just I'm waiting for the time that finally Laurence Fishburne.
You know, it gives me either choice of the pill,
and which.

Speaker 6 (02:12:08):
One would you take? By the way, the blue are
the red?

Speaker 7 (02:12:10):
Well was the blue you get to stay where you are?
I think the blue as you stay where you are.
The red you get to.

Speaker 6 (02:12:13):
The red is when you go into the matrix. I'd
stay where I am.

Speaker 7 (02:12:17):
I want to enter the matrix. Man, Well, go over
there to the simulation. Let me go ahead and meet
mister Smith. Well, who knows maybe somebody is going through
a simulation as me right now. You never know, like
how much would that suck? Like you get through life
and then you find out like that like you were
living for someone else kind of deal.

Speaker 6 (02:12:31):
Have you ever seen the Ricky Morty episode where he
where he goes through an entire.

Speaker 5 (02:12:35):
The only thing I know of of rick and Morty
is Pickle Rick because a buddy of mine said that
it used to put him in a pickle, so you know,
he became pickle rick Have you ever seen.

Speaker 7 (02:12:42):
That episode, the one where the one where Morty is
the football player and then he ends up going to
a traveling No, no, no, he's he's in a simulation.
He's out of he's at a U, he's at Blitz
and Chips and he's at and he's as simulation and
he gets to be Ricky the Rifle and then he
has cancer and he listed cancer and that he's married,
and then he owns a carpet shop and he's voted

(02:13:04):
world's best dad. And then he's going up to get
the top carpet and he breaks his back and he dies.
He has all these memories coming back of him living
a livelihood that he never was simulated.

Speaker 6 (02:13:13):
Within five minutes, my brains are on the floor right now.

Speaker 5 (02:13:16):
It's fantastic, Like seriously, like so many episodes, they have
come out of both sides in my ears and they
are on the floor at this moment.

Speaker 6 (02:13:26):
You only have fifty.

Speaker 5 (02:13:27):
It's just for everything that you just like I it's
one of those like where you're just like kind of
like like just going through it all the way that
you laid it out that I'm from point one all
the way until the end right there.

Speaker 6 (02:13:38):
I had no idea what the hell you were talking about.
And that is the matrix right here on a Friday
edition of the n Space Show. Now, I do feel
like I'm in a simulation.

Speaker 5 (02:13:46):
All right, We'll get into a little bit more astros conversation.
Lance McCuller is on the mound tonight, the expectations, but
also too, speaking of expectations, seems like people have really
high ones for this guy, and I don't get why
we'll do all that right here, nine o'clock hour, Sean
Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:14:07):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues, Hey, what's this?

Speaker 5 (02:14:10):
I hear about the nine o'clock hour. You said this
and there I didn't say that on the air. Oh
oh yeah, Hey that was vice president of Marking. They
really enjoyed that little tidbit that you had during that
nine o'clock.

Speaker 6 (02:14:21):
Hour, kyp Man, I know your personnel. That's what it's
all about.

Speaker 7 (02:14:25):
That Just be yourself, be form fitting flow, and then
watch as you walk out that door fired there, I go.

Speaker 6 (02:14:30):
That's always good a way to live life.

Speaker 5 (02:14:32):
The brains are less on the floor with that one.
It was the Rick and Morty was the one that
I was just like, what is happening? Well, come on,
where are we going here?

Speaker 7 (02:14:40):
Think Rick is a great episode, though I will implore
you to please watch the entirety of the episode.

Speaker 5 (02:14:45):
See it's one of those if I don't catch it
from the beginning, I don't catch it, like you know,
for all the people all breaking bad, how great of
a show it is, but it's really boring at the beginning.

Speaker 6 (02:14:53):
Okay, you just sold me to not go back and walk. Kay,
did you watch Game of Thrones? Nope?

Speaker 7 (02:14:58):
Okay, because the first season is so hard to get
it triple ly understand exactly what I'm saying. But the
second that you get to episode eight, it is fully
invested up until season seven.

Speaker 1 (02:15:08):
Yes it is.

Speaker 6 (02:15:09):
It is fully invested.

Speaker 1 (02:15:11):
It is dan it is for it.

Speaker 7 (02:15:13):
But I will agree with you if you you have
one season to convince me. But you're you're one episode
type of guy.

Speaker 5 (02:15:19):
Well, I mean you gotta have a cannon shot right out,
like for example, uh, Ozarks And we'll get to the
Lance mccullar stuff here in a second. But Ozark's you know,
when it first started, Ozark see I apostrophized it when
it when it didn't need to be.

Speaker 6 (02:15:31):
It's the Mandela effect.

Speaker 7 (02:15:33):
Say, it's a great location to go out there in Arkansas.
I've heard, but it's at least the first episode cannon shot.
It's sor right off, you're like, oh man, I did
not expect Jason Bateman to be in a show like this,
and it.

Speaker 5 (02:15:44):
Hooked you from there. Okay, it was the entire time,
Marty and Wendy Bird and everybody. You're just like, they're
gonna finally step into the wrong situation here and not
be able to get out of it.

Speaker 7 (02:15:53):
So I haven't seen Ozark. It's a great show. Okay,
so it's it's worth watching.

Speaker 1 (02:15:57):
Great.

Speaker 6 (02:15:57):
So okay, Triple A because I guar you haven't seen it.
Have you seen the Boys?

Speaker 12 (02:16:03):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (02:16:03):
Okay, have you seen the Boys? The very first seed?
You're locked up, the very first seed.

Speaker 6 (02:16:11):
You immediately are.

Speaker 7 (02:16:12):
Locked into that show. That is where it's like they
are either going to catch you or lose you five
minutes in. And I can appreciate that they have their audience.

Speaker 5 (02:16:22):
Well, it's like a peacemaker, especially to you know, when
the guy tells him he's not Batman that's because Batman
is a you go go see that part. And he's
not wrong too, I mean because it's like with Batman,
he's like, dude, I mean officially, you got to kill
one of these guys.

Speaker 7 (02:16:36):
John Cena is what Dwayne the Rock Johnson's or it
is supposed to be, he is him, and Dave Bautista
actually made the transition to acting ba can Well.

Speaker 5 (02:16:44):
I mean, Batista is the B Team Rock. I mean,
that's that's what it is. Is he he wanted to
be the Rock and the Rock was so much better
than him on the mic and everything else. And then
in acting kind of the same deal.

Speaker 6 (02:16:56):
He went. He's in like the same type of movies,
but it's you don't have the cash at the Rock. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:17:00):
But I will say that the best character ever written
by any one of those characters is Drax and he
and that's played by de Batista.

Speaker 6 (02:17:06):
So I take that fair enough.

Speaker 5 (02:17:08):
Someone three two, one, two, five seven ninety the number
two jump in get to a topic about something in
our industry here in just a few But Lance pick
Cullors tonight. I mean, I know that Brandon threw out
earlier seven innings. I'm not expecting that out of him
give me five, I'm actually gonna go less than that.
I think if he gives you four, then you feel
like you're in position and hopefully you are able to

(02:17:31):
have a little bit more success than he had last
night against Jacob de Grom. Although I mean, for as
good as we've talked about Hunter Brown, native Valdi's been unreal.

Speaker 11 (02:17:39):
Man.

Speaker 7 (02:17:40):
It's scary honestly because of I remember when he was
supposed to hit the market and people thought, Okay, he's
leaving because of he's going to be a number two
somewhere else. No, he ends up staying back and he's
still the number one for this roster, right I mean,
for this rotation right now. I mean you could say
that the version of de Gram that we saw last night,
that's your race, but the consistency that's still vault. Like

(02:18:00):
I still trust a Valdi to give me seven strong,
I would say fifteen times in a season where I
can't do that right now.

Speaker 5 (02:18:05):
With de Gram and then you know with mccullors, obviously,
if he gets two outs this time, that's an improvement. Sure,
But I mean, you know, just from what you got
from the first start to the last one, Dana Brown
telling us the other day, you know still trust him
and you know feel like he's a guy that can
bounce back from rough outings. And I mean the Astros
definitely need that tonight because you get another outing like that.

(02:18:26):
I think the difficult conversations need to start happening about
Lance mccullor is and what you can expect from him
this season, because I had very low expectations for him
when we got to this season and when it felt like,
all right, there's finally light at the end of the tunnel,
you're gonna see him pitch, because I mean, he hadn't
pitched in two years, Like, I can't expect the guy
to be who he was when you haven't seen a

(02:18:49):
game mound in over two years.

Speaker 8 (02:18:50):
Now.

Speaker 7 (02:18:51):
I'm not gonna go put too much pressure on Lance,
but what I will say is this might be a
good road lineup to face off against when it comes
to building, I would say, back your confidence. How do
you think hitter? The Rangers are hitting with Runderson scoring
positions against.

Speaker 6 (02:19:06):
Right handers twentieth in the league's twenty ninth one team
is worse than them? Can you guess hy? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:19:14):
They just played them? There go one seventy six batting average.
Their OPB is at three to twenty ops of four
ninety six. Their ops is actually the lowest among all
qualifying teams right now. So, in my opinion, with the
way this lineup has been where you're not really getting
the consistency of anybody outside of probably Whya at Langford,
if you can get past him, even if there's runers

(02:19:35):
in scoring position, you have a shot tonight where you
didn't have that. Cincinnati this year is actually a tenth
right now with runerson scoring position against right handers. So
it's like, there's reasons to believe that in this matchup alone,
even if you can just work counts in your favor,
you can get out of trouble because.

Speaker 6 (02:19:51):
You still have a good defense behind you.

Speaker 5 (02:19:53):
They just did the line you said, it can always
get worse. I mean that's a oh it can No.
That's a buddy of mine had that line with another
buddy that just lost his bank roll right there at
the blackjack table and was going to go back to
the ATM and get some more. He goes, I can't
get any worse. He stopped him. He goes, no, it
can always get worse. And that's worse. But what's worse
of going and getting more money after you just got

(02:20:14):
it handed to you at the table?

Speaker 7 (02:20:15):
Yeah, of course it is. But what No, But it
can't get any worse for Lance than what you saw
last game.

Speaker 6 (02:20:19):
Well, sure it can't. He cannot get it out like
we saw Blair Henley last year. But do you think that.

Speaker 7 (02:20:24):
They're gonna hold him out there as long as they
did if it happens again.

Speaker 6 (02:20:27):
Probably not.

Speaker 5 (02:20:28):
But I mean but you also too, I mean, you
get to this point in the year and I know
that you know Alex and garden Oaks, he's big on
this of you know, leaving guys in there too long. Well,
I mean you also are not in the playoffs. You
have more games to play the rest of the way.
You have more games to play in the you know,
in the next week or so. I mean, you've got,
what with tonight, ten more straight games to play.

Speaker 7 (02:20:51):
Yes, I believe the twenty fit is their next day off.
It's it's it's like next Thursday or now. So yeah,
I mean, like, yes, you have time. My main thing
is that how many I mean, how many pitches did
the Lance go against Chicago?

Speaker 6 (02:21:04):
Eighty one?

Speaker 7 (02:21:06):
Sure, he went three and he went three and two thirds, right,
you think it fin he got he got.

Speaker 6 (02:21:10):
Into the fourth inning by forty.

Speaker 7 (02:21:12):
If you know that you're in forty pitches and it's
still the first hitting pull them at that point, don't.

Speaker 6 (02:21:16):
Don't risk it. Just just don't.

Speaker 7 (02:21:18):
I don't even care if it's too nothing, if there's
too many app ats are going on that where you're
seeing foul offs, what you're doing is you're allowing hitters
to get his rhythm down, and that's gonna kill his confidence.
And then if you leave him out there too long,
you put yourself in a position where like Logan van
Why comes out and really it's not his fault that
there are three more runs scored. It's just there's runners

(02:21:38):
on every base and you're a young pitcher and they're
going to feast on you when it comes to that.

Speaker 5 (02:21:43):
Don't want that someone three two and two, five, seven nine.
Let's go with Randy on the west side.

Speaker 16 (02:21:48):
Randy, good morning, yeah sir, good morning to you.

Speaker 10 (02:21:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (02:21:52):
I haven't had a chance to look yet, but what
is Lance's contract status with the Astros and uh and
also a lot of people are talking about this game tonight.
I mean a lot of my friends, just a lot
of people. They want to see how Lance responds, because
I'm telling you, just looking at it on paper, there
is not a snowball chance in hell as the Astros

(02:22:13):
will win this game tonight. I mean, just look at it,
you know, Lance versus the guy from Alvin. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Nathan Nathan Yet. I mean, if you just look at it,
Shrills don't have a chance tonight. But if they somehow
put it together and and and make a miracle happen
tonight by winning, it would be a miracle. You know,

(02:22:36):
it would be a miracle tonight. But we shall see,
we shall see. But again, what is Lance's contract status
going one more year.

Speaker 6 (02:22:44):
After this year? Yeah, twenty seven is when he's a
free agent.

Speaker 5 (02:22:47):
I mean, you don't. You don't feel as good as
you did last night. And you didn't really feel all
that great last night with who was going for the Rangers,
but at least you felt better because of the guy
that was going as your starting pitcher then you do
in this one. I think you have to treat this
like a bullpen game. He gives you a good first inning,
hopefully it gives you a good second, gives you a
good second hopefully gives you a good third, and then

(02:23:08):
you get to.

Speaker 6 (02:23:09):
The fourth inning.

Speaker 5 (02:23:09):
That's when I think you start having guys in the
bullpen saying, hey, you know, get loose, be ready, because
I mean, any hint of trouble we're coming to you.

Speaker 7 (02:23:17):
I have forty pitches. I want forty pitches from him
at that time, I'm getting a bullpen arm und just
to be right, stretching, just warming up, feeling yourself. That
may be the third inning, that may be the fourth inning,
that may be the second inning. Forty pitches. That's my
limit when it comes to Lance McCullough's before I get
an arm up there. Here's the big thing, though. If
Lance gives you five tonight, just five solid endings, maybe

(02:23:40):
one run Scoed.

Speaker 6 (02:23:42):
I believe the rest of the series is going to
look like last night.

Speaker 7 (02:23:45):
That's what we're in for, because you're gonna get it
on Saturday, and you're gonna get it on Sunday. I
think that you're gonna get prime Ronel. I think that
you're gonna get whoever comes out on Sunday for you.
You're in that spot. I think that you are gonna
see good Jack Lighter because he is better in globelife
than he is on the road.

Speaker 6 (02:24:00):
You know what of all he is.

Speaker 7 (02:24:01):
You know what de Gram is, and you know what
Hunter Brown is. There's five pitchers in this match that
have an er and or two under three. I mean,
this is what you can expect for the rest of
the weekend if you get five innings of quality play
from lands per Colors.

Speaker 5 (02:24:14):
Here's so hoping as the Astros try to even up
the series tonight against the Rangers, part of this four
game series, and you mentioned it being an Apple TV game,
you know that you can always count on us here
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(02:24:35):
coming up this group wanting to go with this guy.
It is so on brand for them. And we'll let
you hear what that means right here. It is The
Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:24:47):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued, what are your thoughts on
Rich Eisen.

Speaker 7 (02:24:54):
He's an individual that works in sports, that does what
we do, so he's just another guy.

Speaker 6 (02:24:58):
Basically, that's the way I'll be okay, fair enough. He
runs a forty slower than I run a forty. So
that's the thing.

Speaker 5 (02:25:05):
I mean, it's it's a noble cause what he's doing
it for. But it's like also too, it's just like
whatever anyway, all right, So we got the news earlier
this week leaving NFL Network going back to ESPN, gonna
have his rich eyes and show on ESPN Plus. That
got to make Pat McAfee wonder because I guess it's
gonna air at the same time as the Pat McAfee show.

Speaker 7 (02:25:26):
Well, it's gonna air on ESPN ESPN Plus there you go. Yeah,
you know the one whatever it is that's going to
be attached with Hulu for twenty.

Speaker 6 (02:25:33):
Nine right, Yeah, you get a subscription package with Sure.
Are you gonna buy that? By the way, no, No.

Speaker 5 (02:25:39):
So with that being said, it starts to make you
wonder if ESPN is already engaging in self sabotage, because
despite what you think of Pat McAfee, I think he's
refreshing for the for the network.

Speaker 6 (02:25:52):
Yeah, I think he's different.

Speaker 5 (02:25:54):
I think it's for that very reason, something that you
don't have, which is fun because there's nobody that does
contrives sports talk like that organization does.

Speaker 6 (02:26:03):
Course they do, and you.

Speaker 5 (02:26:04):
Want to try to take away from it by adding
somebody who is not as interesting as they believe that
they are. And I mean, for everything that I've ever
seen or heard from Rich Eisen, it's just like you're
just another guy. And I know that some people might say, well, Dan,
that's his job.

Speaker 6 (02:26:20):
Not true.

Speaker 5 (02:26:21):
Ernie Johnson, what are your thoughts of Ernie Johnson does
basically the same thing he does on TV.

Speaker 7 (02:26:25):
Ernie Johnson is the greatest I would say host in
current American sports right now.

Speaker 5 (02:26:30):
So he's endearing. Yeah, you're like, he adds to the show.
He's fun, He does his part. He knows that he's
not necessarily supposed to be the funny guy, but he'll
add it every once in a while. The audience actually
connects with him, right.

Speaker 7 (02:26:41):
Ernie Johnson does is he completely understands the assignment.

Speaker 6 (02:26:46):
Like when you have your role.

Speaker 7 (02:26:48):
Ernie Johnson is an Academy Award winning I would say,
straight man, that's what you want. He is setting you
up for the comedy that you're going to get from
everybody else on the panel. And I appreciate that he
knows how to do interviews, he knows how it caps
into captivate an audience, but he also knows his role
and he stays in his lane. That's what I can appreciate.
And honestly, I think that most people can learn from

(02:27:09):
somebody like Ernie Johnson on what works and what doesn't
in your repertoire. That way, you know how to make
exciting television, make exciting radio.

Speaker 6 (02:27:18):
If you're not funny, don't be funny.

Speaker 7 (02:27:20):
I try not to be funny because if I'm not funny,
I swear if I make a joke, I probably am
looking back twenty minutes later going why did.

Speaker 6 (02:27:28):
You make that joke?

Speaker 1 (02:27:28):
Dummy?

Speaker 5 (02:27:29):
I just know that, like when it comes to rich
Eyes and to bring it back to him, like where
I've heard stories of interactions with people and you know,
just also yeah, all of his Michigan fandom and all
these other things, like thinking like we actually care, Like
I think the guy in his mind thinks he's more
interesting than he really is.

Speaker 7 (02:27:46):
Well do you care if I okay Bama fan? I
genuinely don't care what you have to say about Alabama,
Like like Alabama could end up winning the national championship
this year, I'm still gonna act the exact same if
Texas where to do it?

Speaker 11 (02:27:57):
Do you care?

Speaker 6 (02:27:58):
Georgia wins.

Speaker 5 (02:27:58):
I mean, I'll share my fandom, but I mean it's
also though, too that I'm not sharing it because I
think that it makes me more interesting just because of
who I I mean, it's just it's what I am.

Speaker 7 (02:28:08):
If anything, I share my hatred of teams more than
I share my fandom of teams.

Speaker 6 (02:28:11):
That's fair.

Speaker 7 (02:28:12):
I hate the Stars. I absolutely hate the Dallas Stars.
Nothing maybe, okay, see there?

Speaker 6 (02:28:17):
How about how about a reference that most of the audiences.

Speaker 7 (02:28:20):
Is going the Chicago Cups. Okay, al see thank you, tripley.
I cannot stomach the show. I would rather watch the
Yankees and the Cubs have a demolished stadium over them
than actually watch them play baseball. That's the way I
feel about the Chicago Cups. I'm going to preach and
enhance and go all out when the Astros beat the

(02:28:41):
Cups because I I cannot stomach the Cups. I care
more about that than I care about actually talking about
Alabama being good, being good at football, being good at baseball,
being good at basketball, I don't care if they end
up winning a title. It's a cool story. If Auburn
wins a title, then we have some issues.

Speaker 6 (02:28:57):
All right, here's the sabotage part of it.

Speaker 5 (02:28:59):
Because Greg Gianotti GEO as he's known on WFA and
up in New York, he's not at the same time
that we are up there with boomeras size and he's
got some thoughts on Rich Eisen and I gotta say
we're kindred spirits.

Speaker 18 (02:29:11):
He's got to be the most boring talk show host
in the matter. Why is everybody talking about any clip
that I see? It feels like they're they're doing a
remote from a funeral home.

Speaker 10 (02:29:23):
I mean it is.

Speaker 1 (02:29:24):
It could not be more boring.

Speaker 5 (02:29:26):
And I think that also too, if you ever watched
the Rich Eisman show, I think that he's kind of
going for the Dan Patrick thing. But again, like Patrick
had his own niche, like Patrick, is uniquely himself. And
also too, I mean, he feeds off his guys. And
I know that some people would say, especially in our industry, Oh,
you know, I don't care what Seaton has to say.

Speaker 6 (02:29:44):
I don't. I don't.

Speaker 5 (02:29:44):
I don't care what Fritzi or any of the you
know the other guys that are there. I'm like, no, dude,
that's the show. That's that's part of it. It's the
fun part of it. It's kind of the same deal.
Mean you were talking about with Fine Bomb, like people
can't stand oh, you know, all he does is just
take calls. I'm like, you're missing the point. That's the show.

Speaker 6 (02:29:59):
But he was out in Birmingham.

Speaker 7 (02:30:01):
How he got popular was he literally opened up with
the segment calls the next three hours.

Speaker 6 (02:30:06):
That's the show. If you don't like that niche, then
you're never going to like that. Now it will.

Speaker 5 (02:30:10):
I Mean, here's where I come to with Fine Bomb
is that it's kind of one of those you know,
something college football related.

Speaker 6 (02:30:16):
Oh Fine Bomb said this. I'm like, I couldn't care less.

Speaker 7 (02:30:19):
I couldn't well, okay, here's where I dropped with Fine Bomb.
I don't care what his opinion is on first take.
I genuine when he decided when they bring him on
to talk college football, I fall asleep. I'm bored by it.
I absolutely could care less what the guy who currently
is sitting here to uh have a conversation with a
coach about things that happened in the sports today.

Speaker 6 (02:30:42):
He really keeps the ball moving on this show.

Speaker 7 (02:30:44):
It's very fun to have you on in Matthews, Georgia,
let's bring in uh you know, uh have you have you?

Speaker 8 (02:30:54):
Have you?

Speaker 6 (02:30:54):
Have you talked about lost my train thought, Georgia, our audience.

Speaker 7 (02:31:01):
That's what Paul fine bomb is when he does interviews. Literally,
it's the drivel that's brought out to it and I can't.
I can't summon it like I at least can appreciate.
I disagree with Geo when it comes to it's in
a funeral parlor. I think it's more so like in
a golf course and you're having a conversation over a
couple of cocktails.

Speaker 6 (02:31:20):
But it's not the one that you want to have.
It's like at that hoity toity one, like.

Speaker 2 (02:31:23):
What was that?

Speaker 6 (02:31:24):
Yeah, it's it's stuffy and it's smarty, but what was the.

Speaker 7 (02:31:27):
Uh, what's the the It was a big eighties commercial
and they're like something something that's like will you pass
me the jelly?

Speaker 6 (02:31:36):
Why am I blanket on it? Right now?

Speaker 2 (02:31:38):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (02:31:39):
Like they again, family got made fun of it.

Speaker 5 (02:31:41):
You get you get warmer in terms of the audience
right now, I see exactly.

Speaker 7 (02:31:45):
But still it was it was some type of jam
that they would put on it and Paul lament jam
and they said, will you pass me?

Speaker 6 (02:31:51):
Like that's type of audience. Want to marinate on it
during the break and think about I'll figure it out.
This one, what's it called?

Speaker 12 (02:32:00):
Boy?

Speaker 6 (02:32:00):
That just sounds like it's over forty years old? Pulland
they're all fruit commercials. That's at Paulamont all fruit, Paulamont
al fruit. Dads have an audience that you would get
with rich Ison.

Speaker 7 (02:32:11):
The people who are smug, smarmy and think that they're
sticking their nose up and have a better conversation than
you do.

Speaker 6 (02:32:18):
That's rich Ison TRIPLI.

Speaker 5 (02:32:19):
If you thought I brought dated references to the show, yeah,
I've been one.

Speaker 6 (02:32:24):
Uped been one up again. I'll let him have it.
Yeah you got You're good. I'll take it.

Speaker 7 (02:32:30):
I'll take a nineteen eighties reference for today. I'm working
with two guys that only bring up nineteen eighty shows.

Speaker 5 (02:32:34):
I'm just saying with ESPN, there's a reason why you
continue to lose viewers. There's a reason why you continue
to lose money, and this is going to be another
reason why you continue to do that. If you alienate
Pat McAfee because you can alienate Pat McAfee because he
doesn't fit with what you want the network to be.

Speaker 6 (02:32:51):
But you're missing the point. It's not about what you want,
it's about what they want, the audience.

Speaker 1 (02:32:54):
Don't worry.

Speaker 7 (02:32:55):
We're gonna get a Peter Schrager All Sports show that's
gonna take his place, So I think we'll be fine
in that conversation.

Speaker 5 (02:33:01):
The movie rights, it's really it's really not that hard
to do this job and to do it somewhat well,
and some people, honestly just at every single turn, oh hey,
let let's let's get people this because that's what they
really want. That's that's like right in line with the people.
That's what you really should be talking about. You ever
tell me that's what I should be talking about. I'm
going to do anything but talk about that.

Speaker 7 (02:33:24):
See, I'm gonna talk about it, but I'm gonna talk
about it in the way that you don't want me
to talk about it. I'm going to have such a
negative feel you want me to talk positively about it,
I'm gonna.

Speaker 6 (02:33:31):
Talk only negatively about it and then walk out.

Speaker 5 (02:33:34):
So it's the old saying f around and find out
so ESPN. I mean again, what's the last actual show that.

Speaker 6 (02:33:42):
Was not a game that you watched on that network?
Probably Pat McAfee.

Speaker 7 (02:33:46):
There you go, exactly. And and that's the sad thing
is that I only have Pat McAfee on his white
noise in the background Game Day Baseball Football. That's that's
all I'm watching on that network. I haven't watched PCI
or Around the Horn, which, by the way, happy trails
around the Horn. I think this is your last week.
I won't watch them in like five years. I'm not
playing on watching.

Speaker 6 (02:34:04):
Either of them. I wonder why it's going away. Oh
it's shocker. Shocker.

Speaker 7 (02:34:08):
That is show that's Pete preaching about things that we
aren't interested in hearing.

Speaker 6 (02:34:12):
Is now leaving the network. But don't worry. Rich Eyes
is here to say the day Dave Matthews.

Speaker 5 (02:34:16):
KYA, that's what it is speaking of And knowing your audience,
it feels like most of you would probably be a
huge fan of this news that could be a reality
sooner rather than later.

Speaker 6 (02:34:28):
We'll let you hear that.

Speaker 5 (02:34:28):
Next right here, it is Shawn Salisbury Show Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:34:34):
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Talk seven ninety Home of Your Astros still twenty seventeen, chaps.

Speaker 6 (02:34:50):
Hell, doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (02:34:53):
Sean Salisbury's show continues right now.

Speaker 5 (02:35:00):
Playoffs, Celtics trying to keep their season alive in Game
six against the Knicks, the Nuggets able to force a
Game seven back in Okac with win last night over
the Thunder?

Speaker 6 (02:35:11):
What'd you think of Top Gun? Maverick? Very good movie.
They cast the wrong person to play Tom Cruise's love interest.
Oh so you're on that.

Speaker 7 (02:35:19):
I am one hundred percent cape back and sell what
they see on this one. That should have been easily,
that should have been it over, Jeffer. I just feel like,
and I heard you guys have that conversation. Jennifer Connelly
still got a fastball, by the way, Jennifer Connelly, No,
she's still got a fastball. But here's again, and I
think somebody brought this up to you guys about that
she plays a believe like she looks like the character

(02:35:40):
that she played. Sure that she's hot, but like she's
not overly hot. That you can believe that where ocean
side is that where they are like that she would
own a bar in Ocean side.

Speaker 6 (02:35:50):
You mean so she actually fits the mold of being
like an order.

Speaker 7 (02:35:53):
Yeah, okay, look, Billy Brace Cyrus can be dating Cape
Beck and Sale or Elizabeth Hurt if he could be
dating Elizabeth, Yeah, it's time.

Speaker 6 (02:36:00):
Yeah, Tom Cruise can be Dayton Kate. That can sell
in this movie.

Speaker 7 (02:36:03):
That's that's the sit again. If you want to swing
swing bit because you missed with Kelly mcgilli's my opinion,
not at the time you did that's the time you
did it, but really thinking about it looking back, honestly,
it was a swing and miss.

Speaker 6 (02:36:15):
What if there was a top gun at three on
the horizon?

Speaker 7 (02:36:18):
So is it no longer going to be Rooster now
it's going to be Turkey learning underneath Maverick?

Speaker 6 (02:36:23):
No, I think you still probably have a Rooster there,
Miles Teller.

Speaker 7 (02:36:26):
But is there going to be a third child that
comes into the picture, another Goose member.

Speaker 5 (02:36:29):
I mean, I'm just trying to think like, who's going
because I mean you really kind of had a younger
version of everybody where Rooster was basically Maverick and then yeah, yeah,
Glenn Powell basically is the iceman where you know, the
good looking guy that's kind of a jerk, and you know,
you're like, I can't stand this guy, but then endears
himself later. Like you ever noticed that Glenn Powell in
most of his movies plays the same guy? Now, Yeah,

(02:36:51):
like he's kind of in the Leam Neeson and Denzel
Washington fold.

Speaker 7 (02:36:54):
Okay, to be fair, though Liam Neeson owns his role,
I can appreciate that he's.

Speaker 5 (02:36:58):
The same guy in every single movie the widower, or
he's the divorcee who's a lone wolf that just goes
around kicking people's asses.

Speaker 6 (02:37:04):
No, you know, I'll tell you. I'll tell you exactly.

Speaker 5 (02:37:06):
Denzel is either a really good guy with a bad side,
or he's a bad guy the good side that you want.

Speaker 6 (02:37:12):
To see get away with it.

Speaker 7 (02:37:13):
By the way, his best movie still his Flight That
he should have won an Academy Award for it.

Speaker 6 (02:37:16):
He was great in that. And that's again, I mean,
he was not a good guy, but you still are
kind of like he fantastic. I gotta you know, I
hope he gets away with this. I was written for him.

Speaker 5 (02:37:25):
John John Goodman, you know, shows up with the with
the goods. Don't touch the merchandise.

Speaker 7 (02:37:29):
By the way, that was his best cameo role that
he should have at least got an Oscar not for
I'm on the list.

Speaker 6 (02:37:34):
You know who. I'll tell you Glenn Powell is. He's
Ryan Reynolds in action movies. Same character.

Speaker 5 (02:37:40):
I used to be a big Reynolds guy. But all
this justin Baldoni stuff. I'm like, he's just another Hollywood
you know.

Speaker 6 (02:37:46):
Okay, but do me a favor. Have you ever seen
the rom com? Definitely? Maybe, probably, but it doesn't it
doesn't ring a bell. Okay. He literally is just Wade
Wilson with a kid in that movie. That's it. He's
Wade Wilson.

Speaker 2 (02:38:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:38:00):
No, He's been playing the dead Pools character for years
leading up to Deadpool. But that's Glenn Powell just in
action movies.

Speaker 5 (02:38:05):
That's a good point, I mean, because that's kind of
the way he was in The Twister, Like the most
recent one. You're kind of like, oh man, this guy
is a total dB and then at the end you're like, actually,
really like this guy who knew that that was.

Speaker 7 (02:38:15):
Going to take that has a turn daring moment of
tranquility to realize, Hey, you know what, I don't have
to be this bad of a person.

Speaker 5 (02:38:21):
So Tom Cruise is doing the media junket right now
for the newest Mission Impossible, and he was on with Yeah,
I probably will I love the Mission Impossible franchise. But
he was on with the Today's Show in Australia when
the topic of number three came up.

Speaker 18 (02:38:36):
Yeah, we're thinking and we're talking about many different stories
and thinking about what could we do and what's possible.
It took me thirty five years to you know, figure
out Top Gun Maverick with things.

Speaker 1 (02:38:46):
But so all of these things we're working on. You know,
we're discussing you know, Days of Thunder and Top Gun Maverick,
and you know, there's a numerous other films that we're
actively working on right now that you know. I'm always have.

Speaker 6 (02:39:00):
I'm shooting a film, I'm prepping a film, I'm posting
a film.

Speaker 5 (02:39:04):
The return of Cole Trickle. I completely missed that part
right there. Do you bring back Robert Duvall? The Duvall's
got to be retired at.

Speaker 6 (02:39:12):
That point, ninety or something like that. He's not acting anymore,
you hope.

Speaker 5 (02:39:16):
And then I'm trying to think, like who would play
like Duval's son, as like the guy who took over
you know, trickle racing or something like that, because that's
the way this has got to go now. I mean
you've got to have, you know, Cole Trickle be the
you know, like like the team owner, like almost like
Richard Childress, like you know those types right there, he's.

Speaker 7 (02:39:34):
Got the bad he's gotta be the bad guy or
the like the bad owner.

Speaker 5 (02:39:37):
No, not the not the bad guy. I mean it's
like he's just like the team owner now. And then
you've got somebody else who is you know, his his
young driver, his rooster, if you will. That's the new
version of Cole Trickle.

Speaker 7 (02:39:47):
So would you cast okay, if you're if you're going
for an older guy, would you cast Chris christop Waltz.

Speaker 6 (02:39:54):
No, No, you can't.

Speaker 5 (02:39:57):
You can't pass me as him being like as as
the heavy Yeah, yeah, maybe I was gonna say.

Speaker 7 (02:40:01):
Who would you cast as the rooster in that version?
Probably Timothy Shallomey, I go Tom Holland, that's a good one.
I would go to, Okay, Timothy shallow May great Ball
Muller by the way, in college football. I'm not going
to put him in an action movie. So my thing,
I like he's fineing.

Speaker 5 (02:40:16):
Just gonna just get him some voice training, you know,
say he's from you know, Fair Hope, Alabama or something
like that, and then you know, just put him in
as the new version of.

Speaker 6 (02:40:24):
Cole Trickle Top Gun three. It's in the workshop, the
Return of the Bohemian.

Speaker 10 (02:40:30):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (02:40:31):
Good stuff this week, man, Yeah, great stuff.

Speaker 5 (02:40:33):
Cole Thompson in for Sean Saalsberry Triple, Emmanuel Elmore, He's
a says as always, Dan Matthews here with you as well.
The Matt Thomas Show with Ross coming up next, Astros
on deck six o'clock tonight. I'll be there with you,
getting you ready for the Astros and the Rangers. For
all of us here stick around for Matt Thomas, Rossville Reale,
The Matt Thomas Show with Ross.

Speaker 6 (02:40:53):
We'll talk to you in sixty eight hours right here.
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