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August 4, 2025 • 156 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Soulsby.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Sewan Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
To usc Troupe's longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Sean Salisbury show. This
was ripped a left field and it goes over the
green Monster for Korea. It's one nothing. Welcome back, Carlos.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
Here's the first pitch of the story, and he goes
the other way. That's a base hit that's probably going
to score a run. It will getting the ball into
infield in a bad throw overthrowing a cutoff man and
into second base. Ghost story. Sanchez launched one into the infield,
missed the cutoff man, and the Red Sox now have

(00:59):
two men in scoring position, and that's line to left field.
That's a base hit that'll score one. They'll hold the
runner at third base, who bond gets it in quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
There's an O two.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Curveball rafaella wrapped into left field and the Red Sox
go on top two to one. Red Sox lead it
two to one.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Still nobody out.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Here's the pitch, fastball, and it's low and jogging it saying,
oh there, you're gonna say a ball, so the run's
going to score.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
He didn't come to a complete stop, but I think
quick pitch by fromper and both men will advance to one.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
Horea hits it sharply and bobble by Bregman picks it
up on the dirt, throws to first on a hot
and still gets the out, and that is the ball game.
But Boston Red Sox complete a three game series sweep
of the Houston Astros, winning today six to one, Red
Sox getting all six of their runs in the fourth
inning off fromber Valdez.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Oh that was fun, was it?

Speaker 6 (01:58):
Not?

Speaker 1 (01:59):
All three nights days? Whatever?

Speaker 6 (02:02):
It was in Boston? A disgrace for the Astros as.

Speaker 7 (02:07):
They you're playing the disgrace card or dis day to
Dandi's at his best parts.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
I mean that was a little bit double double D's
work it well a triple in that case. Well four
with with what you just threw out.

Speaker 7 (02:20):
A little bingo bango bongo, Yeah, all the above, A
little bit of a curb stop it was. You played
the disgrace card started out, it was lost. Looks like
he's swinging the bat pretty good. That was That was
a positive over the weekend. That was nice to see
out of him.

Speaker 6 (02:37):
But throughout the weekend, and then you know, you get
Tazus Sanchez first ap out on Friday, nice little you know,
good solid, frozen rope to write for a single, and
then they try to pick him off at first, and
then he decides. Which here's the thing for anybody out
there listening, coaching little kids or little kids that might
be listening. You stutter step coming around a pace. You stop,

(03:00):
you don't go, you stop? Uh bad base running? Three
of what was it Friday or Saturday? I'm trying to
put them all together. Friday, Friday night?

Speaker 7 (03:11):
Yeah, where they three different times?

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (03:14):
Two by Leen got caught leaning there it was, and
it was that cost them not just his but three
base running gaffs.

Speaker 8 (03:23):
And then I mean, yeah, you lose two to one.
You could say that costs your.

Speaker 7 (03:26):
Question about it. It was a rough rough on the
base pass for them, and you can run on them.
I think Jiner is either last or close to bottom
of metrics. Why I was throwing people out as well,
which you need help from your pitching staff. That's we
can shelve that for a second. But the Red Sox
put it on them, man, and uh, you know, Red

(03:48):
Sox got news over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Too.

Speaker 7 (03:49):
One of their pitchers obviously is uh uh Tommy not Tommy, Yeah,
Tommy John I think it was. Uh, who is it that?

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (03:57):
Why am I losing my mind? I'll fall look it up.

Speaker 7 (04:01):
They are losing a picture as well, but we'll keep
talking about it, so I'll look it up. They uh,
but they the trade deadline, you know, people wondering how
much they did and will would what's his name from
the Dodgers be enough? Dustin May? But they also lost
a picture to gone for the season, did the Red Sox.
But they took care of their business. Yeah, there you go.

(04:23):
Helck he was uh and he's been a big part
of them for the last couple of years. But he's
gone for the years. So the Red Sox after just that,
but it didn't matter. Over the weekend, they were and
watched all of Friday, watched all Saturday.

Speaker 8 (04:34):
I'll be honest. I checked out.

Speaker 7 (04:35):
After the fourth inning yesterday and went back to watching
Ian Baker Finch on golf. I was watching them both,
but didn't turn that sound up because it was at
that point in time it kind of got sideways and
frustration kicked in and uh, and well the rest was
history because the Red Sox took care of it, and
the Astros never were a threat on Sunday, but it

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was That's a rough one coming out of the All
Star Break with all of us excited rolling in.

Speaker 8 (05:00):
There were some positives, There's no doubt.

Speaker 7 (05:01):
There were definitely some positive and Carlos Craze one of them.

Speaker 8 (05:05):
He saw them.

Speaker 7 (05:05):
They got their guys in the lineup as quickly as possible.
But that going on the road and getting hammered in
all three of those. When I say hammered, getting swept
is a tough one to take. Now they got to
get back into it because that lead now shrunk.

Speaker 8 (05:18):
Now you're a.

Speaker 7 (05:18):
Series away, a series away from I'm telling you, I
believe this is going down to the last week of
the season anyway to win the division set at the
beginning of the year, set in the spring trading. Still
believe it because everybody got better at the trade deadline. Unfortunately,
coming out of the trade deadline, they've lost three in
a row, kind of like the All Star Break. They've
got to get themselves fixed here in this next series

(05:42):
because you could literally blink and come back home and
not in first place.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
Oh and if you want things to be even better.
The team that you're going to play at their place
just swept the Yankees over the weekend, the Miami Marlins
and oh, by the way, a guy that you supposedly
tried to get at the trade deadline, he's starting against
you tonight, Sandy al Contra.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (06:02):
And there was a line to try and get him
over the before the trade deadline ended. So this is listen,
there's no more. This is no longer a marathon, brother,
where they're there. It went from eight hundred meters now
you're at the four hundred meters part of it, and
before you know it, you'll be at two hundred meters
and it's one hundred meters and it's a dead ass
sprint all the way home.

Speaker 8 (06:21):
So rough one this weekend.

Speaker 7 (06:24):
And I'm sure the Red Sox after some of the
you know news and one of us go on, think
about what that team's done.

Speaker 8 (06:30):
They needed to get rid of Devors the dolls.

Speaker 7 (06:33):
They've done is win since I mean they they've won
a lot since he's left. And you know who's who's
gotten worse. Tran Francisco. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm talking
about you know, they have and I'm not picking on devors.
But sometimes sometimes I answer those questions right, yeah, but
but sometimes good but what are you gonna do?

Speaker 8 (06:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (06:49):
But but it's true that sometimes a clubhouse, you know
your best hitter, you decide, well, we got to go
on with him if he's not your best teammate, and
move on and look at the results right now. Sometimes
a guy can hit, but also takes away from and
becomes a trailer, not a truck.

Speaker 8 (07:07):
And the Red.

Speaker 7 (07:09):
Sox obviously the Red side, it was a you know,
in watching in these three games, there was a playoff atmosphere. Man,
it had that feeling of playoff baseball, and the astroge
didn't get it done.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
And when they come up four to five runs the
entire weekend, Yeah, five runs the entire weekend. One Friday night,
three Saturday, one yesterday. And it's hard to win anytime
with just five. And it's hard to win with three
runs in this league.

Speaker 7 (07:33):
And it's it's very, very difficult to put up five
and expect you're gonna win on the road against the
team it's also in a playoff hunt as well. So well,
it wasn't a good weekend. I know there's still carry
over from the trade how's it going to work? And
which gives people excitement, but it kind of puts a uugh.
You know, you come out of that thing in Korea, contributes,
made some plays at third, did his thing, and then

(07:55):
you lose three in a row and you're like, Okay,
the Shine can't already be off the.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Trade deadline, right because they did some really good things.

Speaker 7 (08:01):
But now it's about it's not about well, what we
think we have, it's about what you have. And what
you have is a three game losing street coming out
of it that you got to get fixed. You're fortunately
you're still two and a half in front first place,
but uh, that lead, that lead's gonna that's gonna go
the two and a half to one and a half
to one, lose the lead, get back up to two
or three games. This is we're in the area now

(08:24):
that it's going to be in the rest of the
year in my opinion.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
And I mean in yesterday's score was indicative because you
give up those six runs in the fourth inning and
you just you weren't competitive. You had the solo home
run from Korea, you had the double from Sanchez, and
then you had the looping single from Altuve.

Speaker 8 (08:42):
That's that's not just naming a few, that's naming all
of them. Right there.

Speaker 6 (08:45):
You get three hits yesterday, you're not winning that ball game. Sure, yeah,
he I guess, I guess the cats out of the back.

Speaker 7 (08:58):
I guess I guess you and Kobe Stevens got something
going on. Oh it's Anario. But I said, okay, cool,
how about that? Good to hear too dance talking at once?

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Now. I was wondering.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
I was like, I was like, what's what's happening here?
But regardless, most of you out there, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 7 (09:17):
Well, when I checked out in the fourth inning at
six one, I didn't miss anything, and I was actually hoping,
I did you know what I'm saying? You turn back
in at six three, and I thought, you know what
you got from We're going together? Yeah, you got from
We're going You feel like you got a good shot.
Carlos is in the building, so from and they got
sideways in the fourth inning and mistake here, mistake there.
Before you know, you're down six to one. And they

(09:38):
didn't sniff much after that. They really didn't. It was
just it was actually too easy for the Red Sox
on Sunday, so the Astros get back to it now. Listen,
I mean I I and they deserve to be listened.
We've we compliment, compliment, compliment, it's never personal. They deserve
you know, criticism as well when they go in there
like that against a playoff caliber team, and and and

(09:59):
in truth, most of I mean a lot of the
baseball world had the Red Sox is one of the
favorites to get to the World Series issue, so you're
not exactly losingto a hack. And that team thinks that
they're a World Series team as well, and the Astros
got to taste of it. Now you're going to get
a chance when you come back home to deal with
the Red Sox in your building. But it would have
been a great chance to going. But it's not just

(10:19):
it's like somebody who throws a strike two feet outside
the zone. They're non competitive. Was a pitcher, right, And
yesterday was a non competitive game. Once you got to
the fourth, they was done and they were There was
never a thread after that. So if this team's who
we think they are, they've got to they need to
pick up tempo a little bit on this. And I
hate coming out of something like that when you're excited

(10:41):
about what happened, and Dana did a hell of a job.
But Dana doesn't have a bat in his hand or
a glove on his you know, or isn't running bases
over the weekend. And if that's the case, the Red
Sox sent a message in the astros left a few
opportunities on the table. Can't do it, and now they
got to go take care of their business because now
you're inside of three games. It starts to it is

(11:04):
one of those you can't there is no what is
Jesse venturassa and and uh the movie I ain't got
time to bleed with the with not com band though,
but the one with Schwarzenegger and they're in a jungle.

Speaker 8 (11:17):
Yeah, Predator, the first Predator.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
I think that.

Speaker 7 (11:19):
I think that's exactly what he said. I and got
time to bleed, right, and they don't. Okay, so you're
you're willing to stick a band aid on. Let's go
do this thing so you don't have time to bleed
because now you're in a stretch that you're gonna need
people healthy.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Now.

Speaker 7 (11:31):
The one positive aside from Korea and a few other
things that happened over the weekend is you have hopefully
health coming your way. And how about paining you start
on Friday. I see bam bam, bam and first ball
hunting every time. And I don't understand why more don't honestly,
I know people get mad at people being Now if
a guys walk three in a row and you're hunting

(11:52):
first pitch, then didn't didn't set yourself back and recogno
the room right, know the surroundings. But I you know,
guys trying to get ahead and account.

Speaker 8 (12:02):
I don't know why.

Speaker 7 (12:02):
And Payney said, I'm jumping on everything. So he looked
that was a positive that left side of that infield
and the bats for those two looked pretty alive and
well and the ball was jumping. El Corey hit another
one of the fence, I mean the ball. He hit
the ball hard, so that's good. But they they got
to get this thing going. And I cannot stand coming
out of something like a break or going into the ulstar.

(12:23):
I told you about that part of it and then
coming in back into it. You got to hit the
ground running and now, and they did h for for
a minute. Now you go, I mean as far as
the trade deadline and getting the people you want and
then you know on your way to Fenway Park, you
got to that's got to get fixed, right. You can't
go in there and lose three and be non competitive
like a non competitive strike. Two Sunday was was two

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feet outside the strike zone, That's what it was, and
expecting to frame a pitch for a strike had no
shot and it was they were dominated one hundred percent.

Speaker 6 (12:56):
And now the Astros turn the page and take on
the Marlins night. Speaking of this weekend, I think that
if nothing else, it paints a picture of maybe it's
not time to panic. But another word comes to mind.
We'll discuss that here. You want to join us seven
one three two on two five seven ninety against seven
one three two on two five seven ninety. It is

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a Shawn Salisbury show on a Monday Sports Talks seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
This Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue.

Speaker 6 (13:26):
See Roger right there, get to you here in just
a second. Seven one three two one two five seven
ninety is the number to get him. And SHAWNA mentioned
that panic has not set in one hundred percent yet.
But the other word that I would say needs is
set in for this team is urgency. Because you now
just going by the numbers here. Since the All Star break,

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you're six and ten. You're seven and fifteen. Since you
left LA you've been swept in three of the last
seven series, and you've lost five in the last seven series.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
So forgive me.

Speaker 6 (13:59):
When the post game and look, I'm the biggest Joe
A Spotted defender that there is. I'm a huge fan
of his. I think that he is the man for
this job. He has shown that he's the man for
this job, and he's done a fantastic job. But what
the fan base does not want to hear after performances
like Saturday, where you have the bases loaded late and
you have a chance to at least cut into the lead,

(14:20):
if not Carlos Korea being Carlos Korea, hit one over
the Green Monster and you tie the ballgame up, But
instead he takes strike three after the game Sean fans
don't want to hear we're putting together good at bats.
They don't want to hear a pitcher that gives up
six runs. Oh, his stuff was good, all of those things.
I understand what he's doing, but it is a little
bit of read the room. When you've played the way

(14:43):
that you have the better part of the last month
and a half.

Speaker 7 (14:46):
I don't think there's any question now Joe has stayed
consistent with this approach since he's been the manager. We
love it when it's going good. I mean, people, it's all.
He's consistent. He's not too emotional. I think there are
at times, and we asked him this during spring training,
where a little more when you get kicked out of
a game, make sure there's a reason. I mean, if

(15:08):
you're gonna get kicked out, get your money's worth. Is
what we joked about, because remember the first time he
got ejected last year, it was like, dude, you gotta fight.
So we kind of laughed about that, but not necessarily that.
But there is this part where even Joe a spot
a half glass always full, let alone half full, and
always defending his players as a good manager does. But

(15:31):
there's also that part of in my opinion this is
from me, that you sometimes have to disrupt the apple
cart and go against your normal approach because it's not
a good at bat when you when you stand down
the third strike, it is not a good performance when
you get sideways and give up what six runs I mean,

(15:52):
and you're down six to one of the good stuff, well,
listen Fromer has good stuff most of the time anyway.
So but every now and then there's got to be
you don't have to embarrass your team, your team, but
there has to be something that we can't leave. I
hear it from a lot of it. Can't leave runers in
scoring position, can't take third pitch strikes, can't can't get

(16:12):
sideways in any give up six runs. It's it's hard
to win. I mean, there's a lot of things. And
I know that they have their own private stuff that
they you know, the conversations they have in the clubhouse.
But and I don't think being fair critical is attacking
your team, just like I think it's probably just like
it's eye rolling when you get your ass kicked and

(16:33):
swept and well, we did some good things. So yeah,
we know, Carlos, given there's some good things paying you're
getting them back. And that's the focus because it you know,
it changes good and bad. It happens all the time.
You get, oh my gosh, they got swept in the series,
and before you know what, they've they've won five out
of six. But I think that even Joe at times
could probably what's what's the best ramp up the damn

(16:57):
he's not playing right. You don't always have to air
on the side of always protecting players. Sometimes the player
needs a little bit of a wake up call, and
some some get there one way and some get there
another way. Good stuff isn't losing six to one, and
good at bats aren't staring down a third pitch strike

(17:19):
or popping up or hitting into those aren't good at bats. Now,
hit a ball that is going off the monster at
ricochet's off the monster. Guy gets a great relay in
the second base and throws a guy out because he
was late getting around first pace. That's that's just fortunate.
It happens all the time. You know, I'm just saying
stuff that could happen, right happens. Or you throw a
good pitch and a guy throws his bat out there

(17:39):
if you're and and punches it to right field. We
see that happen in baseball all the time as well.
But I do think there's and we know Joe's got fire,
and it's okay to question your team.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
You're coming out of an All Star break and your
head and you got some new players on it, and
you took a beat down over the weekend against the
team that you may face again in the postseason, let
alone in your own building.

Speaker 7 (18:01):
And what a week I was going to say, a
week from the day and bring them here. So yeah,
I'm with you on that. I'm trying not to make
too big of a deal of it, but there is
the time when sometimes you want to say, go get
kicked out, or go it's okay to let them have
it a little bit in a respectful constructive criticism, if
any of it we're in such I'm not saying Joe,
but all of us.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
We're in the world now.

Speaker 7 (18:21):
You constructive criticize some player and all of a sudden
they go into the tank. I don't think that team's
like that here, But I also don't think they're above criticism,
just like they're not below a compliment. When you lose
and somebody plays well, that person deserves a compliment as well.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
But yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
I think sometimes a dress him down respectfully's okay, little
Salisbury Show theater right here, the post game chandler Rome, Hey, Joe,
fourteen runners left on base again.

Speaker 6 (18:47):
I mean, just it doesn't seem sustainable. You know, what
do you guys need to do? Yeah, Hey, you know what,
the guys know the job that they need to do.
They got to put the ball in play. We've got
to be able to find a way to manufacture runs.
That's that is something that's hurting us right now. He
didn't call out any individual, He didn't put it on
any I mean again, putting it on into a certain individual,

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any of those different things.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
He's saying what we all.

Speaker 7 (19:11):
Know now that question. If I'm Joe's body, know how
I answer it. Listen, we can't leave fourteen runs on basis.
Team has been resilient and clutch, but when you're on
the road playing against a team like the Red Sox,
and now it's the second half of the season and
we're in a pretty healthy stretch run and everybody in
our division got better. We've got to find a way
to get it done, and we've got to get We've

(19:34):
got to get We have got to make sure we
attack the ball in the zone and we got to
make sure we don't. I mean, just there's a way
to say, fourteen runs on base you're not going to
beat many people. We did some good things over the weekend,
but in order for us to play like we think
we can play and go where we want to go.
That can't happen much the rest of the season into conversation.

(19:55):
And if you're offended by that, then you're then basically
you're kind of a little bitch.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
Ain't but you are? And if you can't take that,
was he talking to me? Yeah, he's talking to you.

Speaker 8 (20:05):
You're damn right now? He could you want me to?
You want to call your number out?

Speaker 7 (20:08):
You wanted to say specifically, you're damn right when there's
runners on second, third and you stare he's talking to you?

Speaker 1 (20:13):
What you mean you go for four and eight guys
left on base. We're on your lege.

Speaker 7 (20:17):
He's talking to you, Yes, he is, and he should be.
That's exactly right now. If you want him to, he
can put your number, your birth date, and tell you
your name on there. If you know he's talking to you,
I got two suggestions. It's your ass fit, get it fixed.
That's that's not a good day. That's not good at bats,
that's leaving too many runners on. So if you're offended
by that, then when he or offended by the fact

(20:37):
that you homeward twice and he's not kissing, Okay, great,
we did, so are you gonna be okay?

Speaker 8 (20:42):
Or are you gonna give me the same attitude.

Speaker 7 (20:44):
I'm not saying that ashes anybody when you when you
compliment somebody, But if you don't compliment them and they
had a good game, are you offended that.

Speaker 8 (20:51):
The coach didn't recognize you like in school? Stop?

Speaker 7 (20:54):
So, I mean, we play one hundred and sixty two
of these things, and one hundred and sixty two of
them mark going to turn out right. That's why you
can't get overly criticized, or you can't get after your
team they lose a gamer two, you can't. There's a
time and a place for fire in your belly, and
then there's a time and a place for fire and
your belly, and you become a fire breathing dragon. Which
people know. This is business. We can't accept this if

(21:14):
we're going where we want to go. And if guys
are offended, good, you know what, Sometimes being offended is
a good thing. I'm not calling you out' tell men
as a whole. I got a man, and you know
how you cover up. I got to manage better, man.
Even if you manage your great, you gotta manage better.
I gotta I gotta make sure these guys understand the
and our team's really good at it has been all
the things you can say, but it is okay, Well,

(21:37):
unwritten rules, you can't go.

Speaker 8 (21:38):
Yeah you can.

Speaker 7 (21:40):
Okay, I throw three picks to somebody else and one
of them's a touchdown, and I can't drop in the ocean,
standing in a boat or or on the beach.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Guess what, I don't think.

Speaker 7 (21:48):
My coach come back man great when my quarterback was
kind of accurate today. Matter of fact, the ball didn't
hit the ground. Only problem is three of them went
to the other team. Now, if I'm offended by that,
then one is I sh suggest you take two weeks
off and find something else to do. If not, then
get your ass ready to go and get it fixed
like you have to do it every sport. And I
think this team can handle it. And listen, I think

(22:10):
Joe Spy's not even a man for the job. I
think he's done a hell of Joe. I think he's
the manager of the year. But regardless all that, it's game.
You're judged basically game after game after game, and if
we're going to judge the manager and all the stuff
to go on at the trade deadline, then we got
to also judge the players by their performance day by day,
and they took an ass whooping over the weekend. Simple
you got swept in a ballpark after the trade deadline,

(22:34):
heading into Fenway Park and you got hammered. And on
Sunday you were not competitive, which is how many times.

Speaker 8 (22:40):
Are on Saturday.

Speaker 7 (22:41):
Right, We don't say thatturday might right, we don't even
say that about this team very often.

Speaker 8 (22:47):
So they're not above criticism. It's not personal.

Speaker 7 (22:49):
But if you're offended by your manager giving you a
little bit of urgency, talk to the media.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
What's wrong with that?

Speaker 7 (22:56):
Because I also think that players, and that players you
don't have to they know you don't think you leave
eight runners in scoring, but go before. You're not sitting
there thinking left on base. I mean you're like, man,
I deserve matter of fact, you're almost anticipating it, right, Yeah, No,
I have no problem with you when you dress him
down at the right point, but constructive criticism and a

(23:17):
little nudge for urgency. This team knows. But even good
to listen. Scotty Scheffler has a swing coach. Scotty Scheffler
has a friggin swing coach, and you think that weird ass.
I mean his driver, the way he's sliding his body,
all of them. He has a swing coach. Guy wins
every time you blink, and he has a swing coach.
So if it's good enough for him and his coach, dude,

(23:39):
square the club face.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
We're working.

Speaker 7 (23:41):
Why do you think they tinker all the time. It's
okay to tinker. And you think of Scotty's coach says,
hey man, you're leaving a club face open. Oh what
are you talking about? I hit it to fifteen feet. Yeah, well, Scotty,
you could hit it to three feet. If he's got
a swing coach, it's okay for your coach to get
after you. None of us are above it. The Astros
left it on the table and they went in, and

(24:02):
now the game that leads two and a half, and
that pressure going in is now even worse coming out.
So yeah, no, I have to apologize for getting after it.
This team's really good and resilient, and they're gonna have
to be cuz it's it's getting close to that cutting
time very much.

Speaker 6 (24:18):
As now you find yourself sixty two and fifty on
this season, and as I mentioned, you go down to
Miami and face probably one of the hottest teams in
baseball at the moment with oh yeah, Sandy al Contra
pitching tonight for the Marlins. So you got all that
to look forward to. Roger Jason. See you guys right there,
A couple more spots open if you want them. Seven
one three two one two five seven ninety against Seon

(24:39):
one three two one two five seven ninety. We continue
here Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
And we've out there for the Seawn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 6 (24:52):
By the way, I mean, you know that game's over
with by about lunchtime, so then you're like, all right, well,
I got the rest of the day here, and especially
to the way that fourth inn went, maybe the day
started a little bit earlier for everybody else. But in
addition to the tributes to Ian Baker Finch of course
retiring from PGA on CBS. But you've got Cameron I

(25:14):
just had his name in front of me. Why am
I blanking Cameron Young going for the win? But then
also God's trying to make it to Memphis next weekend
for the FedEx where you've got Putts there on the
eighteenth where he makes this, he's in the playoff. If
he doesn't, then he's done for the season.

Speaker 7 (25:30):
I found myself. I don't know if I missed a
shot Saturday and Sunday Sunday, I did, he missed one shot?

Speaker 8 (25:36):
I sat there. I mean it was on Astro's game
going on.

Speaker 7 (25:38):
When it got to the fourth, theen like I said,
it was done with that and I felt but I
had both on watching and the tributes to Baker Finch
were awesome. Thirty years You talk about a beloved guy
when you hear him. He's such a gentleman, right, and
then you say, well from a gentleman. I don't know him,
but from a gentleman. Was a really solid player. Tried
to change his golf swing after he won the British
Open and it went to he hit it ob won

(26:00):
at Saint Andrews. He tried to get longer and stuff,
and then he got the yips and was it never
came back and was a really good player. He just
wasn't long, but he was a really good putter and
iron player and try to get along, got the iips
and then unfortunately his unfortunate part of his golf career
after being a major winner and winning the Open before
was our bonus because we got to listen to you

(26:20):
and Baker Finch talk golf and just a gentleman. And
you can see by listen Colt, all these guys are
tearing up saying by to him because he retired. And
you're like, well, he'll come back and visits, but it
just goes to show you and you see the crew
and it was an emotional day for Baker Finch, Obre
and everybody else. But just when somebody is that beloved

(26:43):
and it has nothing to do with his golf game,
even though he's a major champion, you know he's an
impact guy and that golf tournament and you're right, I'm
telling you the lead because you get the seventy guys
move on to Memphis, the three three tournaments for the player,
for the FedEx Cup points and post guys the first hundred.
If you're sitting in the nineties, you're like, I want

(27:03):
like a tour card back now. Some don't need to
worry about that. I mean, Scheffler could not win a
tournament for ten years, that his tour card is still
going to be attacked, right, But some of these guys
trying to get so you went from one to seventy,
and those guys are fluctuating that Gary Woodland down the
stretch on Foy. Some guys just I mean, we're struggling, right,
I mean it just it. And I love Gary, I
mean he's a I freaking love him and his comeback story.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
But guys are going I mean.

Speaker 7 (27:26):
It's flocked, right, it is, it's moving it right, it's
moving around from sixty eight to seventy five. Guys are
guy makes a birdie and loses four spots because somebody
else in front of him made par And so you're
trying to get in that and there's what twenty five
million reasons why you'd like to go win the FedEx Cup.

Speaker 8 (27:42):
So there's that playoff starts next week.

Speaker 7 (27:44):
Yeah, and then you're also trying to impress like Cam Young,
who was frigging dominant in this. I mean he just
Bury started off with a bogey yesterday and then went birdie, birdie, birdie, birdie,
and the rest of them were like seven to nine
strokes chasing he'll win by ten strokes if he doesn't
bogey two of the last three holes. Right, It was
just dominant, hit three, hitting nine irons into par five's
just stupid stuff.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
But it was a great watch.

Speaker 7 (28:06):
And so if you're if you're Keegan Bradley, you're staring
at this saying the guy won an amateur tournament at
beth Page Black, he's from New York. He's playing out
of his I mean yesterday played out of his mind.
And that momentum building towards that maybe he's a guy
you throw in there and say he's long, and you
got to be long at that golf course. So it
was it was a good watch considering it wasn't much

(28:27):
fun baseball wise over the weekend, but it sure was
fun watching these guys in their battle and understanding the
ramifications of not playing well or playing well.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
Like Dottie Pepper's line for her goodbye, she goes, it's
a bad week to need decongestion.

Speaker 8 (28:42):
Oh yeah, when she is crying talking to Baker Finch. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (28:45):
When you see like guys like Frank Nabolo and Trevor
emmom up and nance can't. He's staring down because he's emotional.
That that's that's the impact. And you see all the
camera people and stuff and they took the picture with him.
It's that's that's just pure love man for a baker fench.
So it's been a hell of a run by him,
and he deserves enjoy his daughters and enjoys your wife,

(29:08):
your grandkids, play some golf, have some fun and relax,
do whatever to drink your wine and have a blast.

Speaker 6 (29:15):
Yes, I mean, I'm sure he's not going to completely
go away. I'm sure every once in a while you'll
see him as a coach, go away from watching football.
I'll be around and golf channels show up there probably
you know, get on the panel every once in a while.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (29:27):
Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
Side from that, it's just no, I'm going to enjoy
life and had a good life in the game of
golf and not going to completely go away from it.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Just not going to be doing it every single day.

Speaker 7 (29:36):
Well the travel, Now, let me travel when I go
on vacation to go play golf as opposed to after
broadcast it. It's been a hell of a run. Now
go enjoy the fruits of your labor for the next
toy you pay thirty years of your life. Dude, why
not finish off the round.

Speaker 6 (29:49):
You're up there at the nineteenth toll, somebody drinking a
nice glass or red. You're like, hey, wait a minute,
are you are you eating Baker fench damn right? I am, yes,
your damn rights. I what do they call what? What
what do they call that lad? They call him sometimes
this lad? What do they what do they call their friends?

Speaker 7 (30:07):
Like the Brits? Well, I mean mate, yeah, yeah, mate, yeah,
like Trevor oh Man. You're enjoy that wine, mate, yeah,
so they can enjoy exactly. And you know, when you're
that beloved, I got news for you. When he rolls
through Pebble Beach, He'll be at Nance's house hitting in
that part three, at his backyard.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
That's why I always remember when Adam Scott wanted the
Masters and he did the whole Ozzy Azzy azzy yeah,
and you saw, I think it was Leishman behind him,
a fellow, you know, a fellow Ozzy and and you
see and it's a great picture of Leishman like a
fist pump like hell yeah, you know, good for him.
And they're in competition, but you know he's still like,
I'm really glad that one of our guys won this.

(30:46):
And I just remember they asked U, they asked Scotty
about it because another one too for the Assi's bloke. Yeah, bloke,
he's a class bloke. Yeah exactly. And they then I
love when the guys hang around. They finished around four
hours ago or three hours ago because they were early off,
and they they hang around just to you know, give
a hug and congratulate. And here's Cam Young, whose family

(31:09):
comes to most of the trips. His wife and kids
happened to be visiting their family out in California. His
mom is out in Florida at the time, had its schedule,
and his pop's there, who is the head pro at
the Sleepy Hollow, And so he's there walter of the
course thinking, you know, and as calm as could be,
but deep inside, you know he's struggled. But when your
kid's got.

Speaker 7 (31:29):
A nine shot lead with five to play, it's like
he actually is going to get He's going to get
it first win. He dance made a great light. He goes, well,
let's see three holes to go. If so and so,
if second place was it, whoever was in second place?

Speaker 8 (31:45):
Time he goes makes eagle.

Speaker 7 (31:47):
Then uh, then uh, if we go triple triple bogie,
then we may have a playoff, and everybody laughed. He
got don't wish that on Cam Young, because Cam Young
has been seven times runner up.

Speaker 8 (31:59):
Oh they're thrown out David Duvall.

Speaker 7 (32:01):
Yea, and then Duvalt finally won, and then the next
two events he won, so the and we saw it
with Dustin Johnson who couldn't win a major. It's like, dude,
with all that potential, what do you when are you
going to do this? And then he won it, and
then he went on a barrage and Domin became that's
exactly right, and then Whin's two majors. So we could
see because Cam Young is in what twenty four he's
got every single thing in length. His putter was, dude,

(32:25):
his putter was alive, and well, this the whole four days.
So it was fun, but I got emotional watching Baker
fans say, it's got to be hard because you're retiring,
but you're not going away. It's just like when do
you know it's time? As a broadcast. He could have
done it ten more years if he wanted. I mean,
he's sharp and beloved so but you know what, at

(32:45):
some point in time, do you want to stomp the
grapes or drink the wine? Now he's done both to
stop them. But sometimes you get to the point and say, Okay,
I've stopped enough grapes and drink and now I'm just
going to fully drink the wine.

Speaker 8 (32:56):
And Baker, yeah, why not. And that's a good broadcast team.

Speaker 7 (32:59):
And for my money, Dottie Pepper is understated and one
of the best female broadcasters in the business. When I'm
listening to her, she knows as much as any dude
that's out there talking golf. I'm just telling you she does.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
She is.

Speaker 7 (33:12):
We don't ever talk all this person. This work Dottie
Pepper for years has been as it's like, she just
put it this way. I'm not sure Frank Nabolo Baker Finch,
if I say, give me some insight on golf swings,
I'm not sure. Dottie Pepper is not one of the
first I go to him. She's that good. And we
just don't get it. We talked about, well this female broadcast,
and there's a lot of good ones, but she never

(33:32):
gets mentioned. Maybe it's because it's so understated and she's
not talking the whole time. Sure she's a pro man,
she really is. And I'll tell you this, and this
may piss some people off. I watched all the five
Japanese gals hung around two because the winner of the
major yesterday morning. That's how sick I wake up and
start watching DP World Tour is a Japanese. This gal

(33:53):
won the she won the fifth major they have on
the LPGA Tour and was emotional and her girl they
stay around, they spray champagne. Five or her country women
hung around and I like, I said, I frigaking love that,
but for my money, dude, So she was she hit it.

Speaker 8 (34:10):
Three thirty into a bunker on the phone.

Speaker 7 (34:14):
I mean, it's like, would you just say, and Charlie
Hall's smoking at three hundred, I'm like, what, Yeah, you
tell me what put a WNBA game up there? Uh
and give me women's golf a major with some of
the shots these ladies hit. I'm taking that all day long,
all frigging day because that's the one where women can go.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
You know.

Speaker 7 (34:34):
We say, well, it's an unfair advantage men against women
in basketball because they play above the rim. Although there's
great players. You get my point, and I'm giving them credit. Dude,
if you've never played with a really good female golfer,
they will bury you. They hit it straight, they hit
it in the short grass and they make putts and
I've been fortunate to do. But I watch them and

(34:55):
I'm like, don't tell you that they can go play
with your buddies from the back tee. And I got
news for you. By the of the round, your buddies
will be paying them money. Even if they're like a
three handicap playing from the black t's, they are going
to beat you. So it was great for my money
watching them hit shots. I learn a lot because they're
patients which I don't have on the golf course. It's
impressive man, and Dottie Pepper, good on you. She deserves

(35:16):
more credit as one of our best female I don't
even when we say this, like, well why should we
female male? You're exactly right, but she doesn't get the
credit that she deserves as a broadcaster, that men would
turn to her and say, give me some insight. You
know what I'm saying. She's phenomenal and does a great job.
I just my obsession with golf right now is at

(35:37):
an all time high, Dude, I can't get away from it.

Speaker 6 (35:40):
Well, you and me both for sure. Roger Jason will
get you guys involved. You want to join them? Someone
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The Sean Salisbury show continues. No, Roger, good.

Speaker 9 (37:03):
Morning, Good morning, gentlemen. I just have a couple of concerns.
Kind of just been you know, letting us, letting us
rest for a little while, but it seems like it's
gonna pop its head at some point. The yord On
thing is curious gets me curious because I'm not sure

(37:25):
if they're just trying to call put a band aid
on this thing, or are they gonna just try to
play it out in the politicket to where he gets
back soon enough. But is he gonna be the ord
On that we know? I don't think so. I think
this thing should have been uh fixed and let him
just come out of in a natural way. And I

(37:47):
feel like this is gonna get ugly. It's gonna start
to stink a little bit because it's gonna be kind
of like a lot controversial thing. I really don't. You
don't really need that kind of stuff there.

Speaker 6 (37:59):
Hold on, before you keep going, Roger, explain what you
mean by the controversial way and the other way that
you said normal way?

Speaker 8 (38:07):
I think, explain what you mean by that.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (38:11):
What I mean is like maybe maybe maybe data and
maybe uh you know, the the maybe the owner knows
more than we do, but the clear but the details
will kind of sketchy about well, we're gonna well, we
don't need to operate on on the part of his
hand that hurts, because the heart of part of the
hand that hurts is not really why jord On is

(38:34):
not swimming the bat. I didn't understand that that explanation.

Speaker 10 (38:37):
Okay, I'm pretty sure the data and uh, Jim Crane
have got a different explanation, which is why.

Speaker 9 (38:47):
They didn't, you know, pull pull the trigger on you know,
the whole rear that rehab and certainly rehab. So and
I hope it works, really we need it to work.
And I'm just gonna leave that, let that lay for
now because I like, like I'm like hearing you guys,
I don't know the rest of the story and I
really don't know, and I really need to just doing
on the comeback the way you're on, Uh to be

(39:08):
come the way you're on, should should be gotting, you know,
the way the way he played now the other parts
on two V. You know it's hard for me, of
course if you have redeeming qualities and all TV is
he's the legend worse man, worse but I've never seen

(39:29):
one guy Shingle handedly wreck a game by base running.
Shingle handly wrecked a game like three, two or three
times where you got multiple hits. Guys are are swinging
the back grade and you just cannot get out of
his own way. And I wonder if that little conversation
with Career had anything to do with it, because either

(39:51):
had his head down when Carell was talking about maybe
he would just controlling them. But man, that's all I got. Man,
I just I just I just noticeable things that I
saw over the I was just like one damn.

Speaker 6 (40:03):
All right, hey, appreciate it. Appreciate it, Roger, all right,
thanks buddy. Yeah, I mean we can, you know, talk
about both of these things start off to seven o'clock
hour too, because do you have some thoughts on yourd
on and I mean with al two ve, let's do that. Well,
we'll get into the seven o'clock hour, continuing the Astros conversation.
You want to join in someone three two one two
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(40:26):
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(40:47):
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(42:20):
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Speaker 6 (44:11):
They're now only two and a half games up on
the Mariners and four and a half up on the Rangers.
They get the Marlins in Miami for three starting tonight,
and Sean on this date in nineteen ninety three, Nolan
Ryan threw a pitch and Robin Ventura he screwed around
and he found out it was forty six year old

(44:32):
Nolan Ryan showing the young colt. Oh yeah you think
you can do that? Let me show you a thing.

Speaker 7 (44:41):
Yeah, bad idea and as good as player as Robin
venture is and was, should I say we still remember that?
Didn't think I have like a fifty nine game hitting
streak in college too. I mean, what a great player.
But I'm sure that on your way out there effort
have You're like, I got a little over zealous with

(45:02):
the big fella. That's old man strike. I was gonna
still pumping it up in upper nineties at forty six,
when do.

Speaker 6 (45:08):
You think it Probably was one of those for Ventura.
That was about the time I realized I messed up.
Was it where you don't see Ryan moving whatsoever? Or
is it as soon as you get into the headlock
you realize, oh, this isn't gonna go.

Speaker 8 (45:23):
Well, yeah, I think part of it too. You're at
the plate.

Speaker 7 (45:25):
I'm sure that there's part of you like when you
drop the bat to go, it's like, even though this
is Nolan Ryan.

Speaker 8 (45:32):
Do people go after Nolan?

Speaker 7 (45:33):
You know what I'm saying, there's that feeling of or
why you're in the batter's box. You're thinking, I am pissed,
I'm not having a good or whatever the reason. If
this fastball comes anywhere near me, we're fighting. And then
there's got to be the part who says, but the
guy in the mound's pretty stout. I would imagine on
the run, now, maybe you lost yourself because I know
when I see red it's like it doesn't matter, right,

(45:54):
But when you're when you're running out there on that
semi sprint and you're right, and Nolan Ryan isn't treating it,
kind of breaks down like a linebacker says, come get
yourself some I would imagine right that of their time stops,
you're like, this might not be a smart move, and
then immediately get you in the in the choke hold
that right then you're saying, I'm not gonna I'm gonna

(46:16):
hear about this forever, right, a little bloody getting after it.
Nolan Ryan's up backing down from anyone. That was one
of the great moments in sports. And I have no problem. Hey,
everybody's got to challenge somebody leaft he had the guts
to go do it, but he did f round and
found out and find out, and he found out quickly.

Speaker 6 (46:32):
Yeah, you think his foundation isn't great, Well wait till
you see him in a headlock and he's taken rights
right to the forehead.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
And Nolan's I wonder how those two get along today.

Speaker 6 (46:44):
I've never heard or seen anything in terms of them
talking about on the record or like them together, but
I'm sure it's probably one of those that there's plenty
of time in between that it would be yeah, you're
laughing about it, that it was done by me to Robin.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Now go by yourself. So Nolan Ryan b for whatever.

Speaker 7 (47:03):
I mean, I would imagine you're like, happens, Hey, you
got to work.

Speaker 6 (47:07):
On your foundation. I know somebody that can help you.
Have said foundation, that's right, old Shan foundation. The old
Shan man came, well, that's a pretty bad foundation problem.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
I'm Nolan Ryan.

Speaker 7 (47:19):
Yeah, I uh, I would think that when the when
the headlock ensued, it was like I'm gonna hear about
this one, and and he did. But you know what
I imagine, you know, like we talked about p Roseen
Ray Fosse that that was it that never ended and
so that that was there was no closure on that
for for Pete Orray unfortunately. And then with this but

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that was a bigger deal. Change the guy's career, you know,
with that one. But it also changed Robin mntuur as
good as he is. We still when you think Robin
Ventura isn't either guy, that's what you're is it either
guy that Nolan Ryan opened up a canoe?

Speaker 8 (47:52):
Aren't you that guy that I got put in the headlock?
Un repeat?

Speaker 7 (47:56):
But I was also a really good player. Okay, but
na dude, Sorry, that's what I remember. But yeah, Nolan's
just you know, and Nolan was his calm as could be.
While I waited, It's like, okay, come get yourself some.

Speaker 8 (48:07):
I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 6 (48:07):
I think that Ventura is the only player in history
to hit a walk off bases loaded single over the wall,
because remember that it was the NLCS one year where
it was the Mets and Braves, and he hit a
grand slam, but he never made it all the way around.
He had stopped at first because he had already started
getting mobbed by his teammates.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (48:28):
See, to me, that's a stupid rule. He hit it
out of the ballpark, the celebration ensues. HiT's a walk
off chart it, dude, the dude doesn't have to run around,
and matter of fact, you're saving people from getting hurt.
Helmet comes off, you're celebrating. That's a home run, it's
a grand So it's not a single because he didn't
get the second base or didn't go around. I mean,
are we serious about this? It went out talking about

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knowing the room. Come on, man, okay, we know he
was going to get the home point, well should he
have afterwards? At fifteen minutes after sprinted out from the
clubhouse during the celebration, Will hit second, hit third, and
then touched home just to fulfill people's Wow, that's the
way we do rules, stupid.

Speaker 8 (49:06):
It was. It was a Grand Slam home run and
a walk off, no doubt.

Speaker 6 (49:09):
How did a chance to talk with Chris Chambliss once
and it was one of the walk.

Speaker 7 (49:13):
Off You remember that when he hit and just sprinting
off and Reggie's running people over and so it's Chambliss.

Speaker 6 (49:17):
Yeah, that's that's my favorite part is Reggie where you
know he had the batter's home with the John olerud
where I guess in this case, Yeah, with with Reggie
out there, he's got it tucked like a football, running
off the.

Speaker 8 (49:29):
Feet and he was a hell of a football player.

Speaker 7 (49:31):
There people's tambuses, throwing people aside stuff, and Chamblis is
a big dude too. They were running you talk about, hey,
let's go forty to fifty gut check with me forty
gun and Reggie's running right inside the tackles and running
people over and all there. That's a great picture of
those two guys. Chambliss is fighting his way through to

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get to the clubhouse. Going bottom lines, we know we're
home players, and we know what were once the balls
out of the ballpark. All bets are off, dudes, especially
a walk off situation. Yeah, it's a home run. Okay,
it's grand Stein. But there's some of the things that
we will banter about and the I mean argue about
and the other things like that was not a single
the ball went over the fence.

Speaker 6 (50:09):
Shambliss told the story too that they obviously didn't do
the same thing to him because they realize it's a
safety issue. At this point, once the stadium had cleared out,
I think that home plate was dug up by somebody,
so they didn't have the original home plate, so they
put a new one in there, and they allowed for him, Hey,
just go touch it and we're good.

Speaker 7 (50:28):
Great, and that's and that's what he did talk about
some OCD dude. We know he It's like, say, let's
we know what he would have done. Of course, so
that's my point. Let's have a little forward thinking when
it comes to that walk off situation and I ball
goes over the fence, all bets are off. It's a
grand slammer. It's a home runner, it's a walk off.
You don't need to touch all the bases.

Speaker 6 (50:48):
Yeah, sometimes a little bit of interpretation is fine to have,
and in this case that's what won out. But anyway,
traveling for sports, some of us like to do it,
some of us don't. But I've got an idea for
people out there that maybe you'll be on board with.
We'll discuss that here as it is the Seawan Salisbury Show.
We're staking out here on a Monday Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Listen, tacly tied to the team.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
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Speaker 6 (51:35):
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this time, as the Strows get swept in Boston over
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Speaker 8 (51:54):
Are next.

Speaker 6 (51:56):
Traveling for sporting events and me, you, Sean, We've been
lucky enough to be able to do them for I
mean work, or even for just straight up going as
a fan, either of those as a possibility. But Ohio's
tate is the guy's name, which of course you know
it's supposed to if you stay, if you say it

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out fast enough, it's Ohio State. But he is with
or with excuse me, with Barstool, not with ESPN, with Barstool,
and he put together every single week of college football
the games that he's going to go to, and I
mean even week zero, they've got Ireland and I didn't

(52:38):
realize this year in Ireland it's Iowa State and Kansas
State and week zero so decent enough game, two teams
that people think are going to win the Big twelve.
So there you go. So you've got that one. And
in Week one says there's a lot of good options
out there. Bam at Florida State possibility, you know, even
though that game day is going to be at Columbus

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for Texas and Ohio State.

Speaker 8 (53:02):
Yeah, doesn't he want to go to that one?

Speaker 6 (53:04):
That was a possibility LSU Clemson. Although here's the thing,
and I was talking with our good buddy Matt Moscona
last Monday on his show and He said that every
single year for these huge season opening games, they've done
the show from wherever they're at, Like the year they
played at UCLA, they were in LA for that what
was it, Orlando, same deal, and then last year in

(53:25):
Vegas for LSU USC not going this year because getting
the Clemson is not easy. It's either you fly to Atlanta,
you drive two and a half hours to get there.

Speaker 8 (53:36):
Paul prints on the highway still there.

Speaker 6 (53:38):
Paw prints on the highways when they travel. The two
dollars bills with the Clemson paws on them too, So
that's that's one of their things that they're known for.
But it's just it's not an easy place to get
to cause I mean Charlotte same deal. I think it's
like an hour and a half from Charlotte. It's just
it's one way or another getting there. It's kind of
like to fly in and bingo like SEC towns usually

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that's the way it is. That you've got to be
able to get there by car one way or another.
Texas at Ohio State is the one that he decided
because arch manning the hype that's there coming off a
national championship, and oh by the way too, those two
played against each other the year before, and despite what
Colin Coward will tell you, that was not a drubbing

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by Ohio State. You had to have that touchdown late
where Texas had a chance to tie the ballgame or
at least score and maybe go for two and win
that game.

Speaker 8 (54:31):
So it was still in grasp for Texas. Okay, So
does he list everywhere he's going? Yes, he does.

Speaker 6 (54:36):
Okay, let's hear him all right. So he's got he's
going every week. Every week, he's going to a game.
The following week, it's gonna be Oklahoma and Michigan, which
I believe that's in Norman for that one. And again
he's an Ohio State guy, so he said he's gonna
throw on an Oklahoma polo and be on the sidelines
for that one. You got A and m Notre Dame.

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You got Florida LSU. But he decided that he's gonna
go to Georgia at Tennessee. I've said it numerous times.
Of all the SEC venues I went to, I never
had a chance to go to the Swamp, which I
would like to.

Speaker 8 (55:08):
I've played there.

Speaker 6 (55:08):
And maybe i'd like, you know, maybe I'll have a
chance to go there someday. But Neiland Stadium to me,
I have.

Speaker 8 (55:15):
Not been there. It's awesome. Yeah, isn't it right on
the water too.

Speaker 6 (55:18):
Right on the water. You got the ball Navy out there.
I'd love to go there. When you tailgate and everything.
When you park there, they say, have a good day
and welcome the Rocky Top.

Speaker 7 (55:28):
I'm not a big NFL in person. I like to
watch those on TV, but college football, you go. I
like that more on TV football period. But it's the
venue and the tailgating, Like just get the energy when
you get on a Friday and a Saturday, right, I
love that. Okay, So he's going to Okay, where else
is he headed?

Speaker 8 (55:44):
All right?

Speaker 6 (55:44):
So Week four it's a little week. I mean it's
you know, Michigan Nebraska. He said he's seen them numerous times.
So he's going to go to Miami Gardens for Florida
at Miami cool.

Speaker 8 (55:58):
I've been when.

Speaker 7 (55:58):
Nebraska is a fun place to go watch a game.
Though I enjoyed going there.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
I did.

Speaker 7 (56:03):
It was fun. They had fun little bars there. It's
fun place. But I get why he wants to go
to Miami. So it's it's no longer in Coral Gables.

Speaker 6 (56:10):
But at the what are they cause there? That Miami
Dolphins Stadium is where they play, right, well, that's where
they play now, but where the old Orange Bowl is? Remember, Yeah,
the old the old ob that's where the stadium the
Astros are gonna be playing inside tonight. They knocked it
down and built up the Marlins Ballpark there. That supposedly
is another reason too why people are upset with the

(56:33):
new stadium there is because I mean a lot of
the Canes fans are like, dude, you took away what
made us us man?

Speaker 7 (56:40):
And I think Miami Dolphins won a Super Bowl in
that place. I mean, if I'm not inster, I think,
but that used to be. Or the Colts, my what
a great old school venue?

Speaker 6 (56:49):
Wide right wide left, Because the final one was whyde
left a.

Speaker 7 (56:53):
Little different home field advantage for them when they were
there as opposed to where they've been playing their games.
So all right, so then where's he going?

Speaker 1 (57:01):
All right? Week five?

Speaker 8 (57:02):
He's gonna go to Bama at Georgia. Oh, that'll be
fun between the hedges.

Speaker 6 (57:08):
The other one that he had a possibility for were
ether two Oregon at Penn State or l s U
at Ole, miss which I would skip that one too
because LSU will probably lose. It's the way it's been going.
Where they play in Oxford, LSU loses. They play in
Baton Rouge, LSU ones.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (57:24):
But but Oxford is a great place to go watch
a game as is. I mean I'm talking about just
see when I say watch a game, that's not it.
It's a great place to go and enjoy. The outside
is what makes it what it is. And there the
old school, downtown, the venue itself on way. Oh no,
the venues are just okay, right, everything leading up to
you know, the campus is beautiful and yeah, there's a

(57:45):
lot of history there, which is Grove. Yes, there's no doubt,
that's why the tailgate. Oh there's no place well elsewhere.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
LSU.

Speaker 7 (57:53):
Yes, there's good restaurants, it's historic downtown. John Grisham lives
up on the hill on your way and all that stuff.
And it's a the you know, the author. But oh
there's when if you're LSU trying to compare other places
to that place for a game. Hard to do. But see,
I think that's like with baseball parks. I think him
going on these trips, what a great idea. I'd love

(58:16):
to you get a sponsor and you load up a
bus and got for him. Yeah, I wouldn't, and I
don't need to fly to him. I'd just as soon drive
and do your shows on there.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
I would.

Speaker 8 (58:24):
I think it'd be awesome.

Speaker 7 (58:26):
Everybody that loves college football, if you have an opportunity,
should do that. Pick a different venue all the time.

Speaker 6 (58:31):
Week six it's Texas at Florida, which Wonghorn fans.

Speaker 8 (58:34):
That's not going to be easy.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Their quarterback's pretty good, yes.

Speaker 6 (58:38):
He is, and he's going to go Clemson at u
n C. So he wants to see Dabbo and Belichick.

Speaker 8 (58:43):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (58:45):
And then Week seven that's red River, he says, got
to do that, even though Ohio State at Illinois. Again,
just like I said about Texas, Bilma gets people.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Every single month.

Speaker 7 (58:56):
The one thing they'll do is playing defense, and they'll
run the ball and be physical. He's always and he
loves that. So and he'll have some attitude that way.
I'm going to say, I can see him trying to
stick it to Ryan, no doubt. Let's see Week eight.
Says there's good SEC games.

Speaker 6 (59:10):
But for one that I know you're a big fan
of and you do not want to see go away
the USC at Notre Dame.

Speaker 7 (59:17):
That's at South Bend this year. It is Yeah, that's
another place.

Speaker 8 (59:20):
I don't care.

Speaker 7 (59:20):
If you don't like either school, you'll to yourself to go.
Oh you have to you have. What you do is
you go into Chicago on a Friday, stay there, stay
to night, have fun, go to your favorite pizza place
or steakhouse, and then you wake up early Saturday morning.
Go do they have some great grocery stores? Grab yourself.
I don't know what we did, a bunch of us.

(59:41):
We rented a limo. This was posted. This was like
during when I was doing television. But we rented a
limo and a handful of us. The limo took us
to Chicago, I mean from Chicago to South Bend, which
is an hour and whatever the length of the drivers,
and waited there for us. We loaded and we stopped
at a great little, like really cool grocery store. It's

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like you know the ones they have in Chicago, which
they have you can go in there and they get
a little bar and at the rest, and we loaded
up on snack, stuck in the cooler and did that
and then went tailgated with Notre Dame and SC fans
went to the game.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Game that was the.

Speaker 7 (01:00:15):
Bush, the push the bush push right, yeah, when push
him in there was I mean, given Dicky V a
hard time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
He was at the game.

Speaker 8 (01:00:24):
It was really coolable game and Charlie Weis told me.
I was on the field before Charlie comes up to me.

Speaker 7 (01:00:30):
I went and said hi to him because I'd known
him when he's obviously in New England and covered. He goes, Sean,
I know you got your troat and chare today. He goes,
we're beating him today, that's what he said. I said, well, Charlie,
your team's ready. We are beating them.

Speaker 8 (01:00:41):
Sean.

Speaker 7 (01:00:41):
I said, okay, and he had us dead to rights
and then the great throw down the sideline for the
big play and then go in. But it was a
hell of a football game. So that was a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
And then we.

Speaker 6 (01:00:50):
Tailgated after and the car service took us back to
Chicago and all.

Speaker 8 (01:00:54):
So do that, people, you owe it to yourself. Anyway
you can do it.

Speaker 7 (01:00:58):
Get to an SC Notre Dame game and tail gate,
get there early and go to the bookstore and everything.

Speaker 6 (01:01:01):
So being Catholic, obviously going to Notre Dame. It's America's
Catholic university, and I wanted to figure out how to
get to where mass was. So the GPS on my
phone took me the long way, which at first, you know,
I'm like, oh man, I could have just cut across campus.
But then I made the Rudy walk the lake right there,
so it was worth it. The grotto right there, the

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Good Lord giving you directions saying.

Speaker 8 (01:01:24):
That's exactly what was.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
And in my mind, I'm hearing that.

Speaker 6 (01:01:28):
Like Rudy when he finally gets to campus there, like
that's that's the way I felt. And I went and
I went and lit a candle, said to heil Mary
really quick, then went in the mass, and the the
concluding him was Notre Dame, our mother and everybody Notre
Dame Arma, you know, doing that as as they're laking
bells going Oklahoma State, Texas Tech the following week is

(01:01:48):
where he's gonna go. And then uh, Penn State, Ohio State,
Let's see LSU, Bama, Texas at Georgia.

Speaker 8 (01:01:56):
That's gonna be a great one.

Speaker 7 (01:01:57):
I helpe he's keeping a diary or a journal long, yeah,
because that's that that makes for a hell of a book.

Speaker 6 (01:02:02):
Week thirteen USC at Oregon. And then it's going to
be of course, him being an Ohio State guy, he's
going to go to the Big House for Ohio State
Michigan the Club.

Speaker 7 (01:02:12):
I like that just a few There's a handful of
venues that I have not been either played in or
win as a fan. Big House is one of them.
I would like, you know, one hundred and twelve thousand
each week in a big game like that. That's gotta
be fun. And like I said, I just like going
and visits with the fans and going through the tailgating
and all that. And we got a lot of good
stuff here. You know, you go to a and m
great place to tailgate, northgate and around the stadium. But

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he's going to have a hell of a time he is.
We need to push for that so we can go
and do that every day. Ye find a sponsor. This
guy wants to come with us, Big bus, mad and
Madden Cruiser. Let's go Friday Fridays from whatever place right there? Absolutely,
where are you guys? We're in Norman, Oklahoma. Hey where
are you today? We're out in al place to go
and tailgate and plat two. Yeah, and the shoe. Yeah,

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then there's a fan and also been there as a player,
and that was It was fun at both. I like
winning at especially when both the top top ten teams.

Speaker 6 (01:03:03):
Yeah, that was fun seeing Barriss Switzer coming off the field.
They Bury, Yeah, you didn't hang half a hundred today.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
I love Barry.

Speaker 8 (01:03:08):
I'll tell you what, you little twit.

Speaker 7 (01:03:09):
I was fortunate after my career to go and sit
with Barry in his box, and then that's why I
went as a fan.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
I loved him.

Speaker 6 (01:03:15):
He was awesome. He'd come to my golf tournament, but
I still got him. I said, well, we kicked your ass.

Speaker 7 (01:03:20):
We shut you out, and you hadn't been shut out
in four hundred years. Our defense, dude, was that was
a Marcus Due pre coming out party. Ah, dude, I'm
telling you our defense that day. We they hadn't been
shut out like five hundred games or whatever it was,
and they were and that crown in the middle of
the field.

Speaker 8 (01:03:35):
I would throw from the right hash and you.

Speaker 7 (01:03:38):
Look over at the Oklahoma sidelines, Dude, you could see
like Barry's chest up. That's that that the crown. People say,
what do you mean a crown? That's how real it was.
You're on one side field you could barely see the
full I mean you wouldn't see a full body on
the other sideline. That's how the crown of the field.
And when they said play downhill on their on their option,
they weren't kidding. They'd turned that corner and they were

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playing down real football.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:04:01):
And then when you had Dupre coming at you at
about two forty two thirty five running like four three fives,
it was like, eh, well we did we obliterate into
physically that day and they had a bun And I
don't mean it disrespectful. There was more all Americans and
for future NFL players on that field that day was
like good gracious, and you came out of that one,

(01:04:23):
but we had got the best of thee. But that's
a fun place to go watch a game, too. Physicality,
it's fun to deliver it. It's not fun to have
it be delivered. No, it's sure you learn a lot
of lessons in both. Now, good physicality, being physical wins games.
And if you go in a little uh on your
heels that aren't physical, you learn a valuable lesson At
what an ass whooping feels like and I've been through
both on the field, trust me, and they're not fun. No,

(01:04:45):
it is fun to do the other one though there's
nothing out of there in flexing your muscle, like we
just physically kicked their ass.

Speaker 8 (01:04:50):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (01:04:50):
There is nothing more demoralizing than not only losing a
football game, but then losing a football game like that
where you're just like, there's nothing we can do.

Speaker 8 (01:04:59):
Listen.

Speaker 7 (01:05:00):
It's like when you're boxing and you get knocked out
in the second, you know, third fourth round. Guy gets
a punch and you've been battling bat it and he
just you just dropped your hands. Second he knocks out,
you want the rematch. Then it's like, oh, you got lucky,
or you hit me when my hands were down. But dude,
when you or you get beat by a big play
or something happens right, it's like this sucked. But the
one when you come out of it, and it was

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twenty one seventeen and it was a full grown fistfight.
I mean your body blow after body blow, those are
the ones you're like, okay, like six days later, you're
still feeling it till you got to line up and
tee it up. The next one. Those are the ones
you say, do you want to rematch? We can we
wait a while?

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Yeah? Can we wait a while?

Speaker 8 (01:05:39):
Can?

Speaker 7 (01:05:39):
We're not ready for one yet. We've delivered them, and
I've been on the side where it's handed to us too.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
I liked.

Speaker 7 (01:05:44):
I liked the delivering that physicality as opposed to not
getting not delivering it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:48):
The message from the ones who deliver it to the
ones who got it delivered.

Speaker 8 (01:05:51):
They didn't want none. Oh yeah, well that's that's that's
the message. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:05:55):
And if you say, if you get him a second time,
you should always be prepared for the fact that they're
It's like playing Utah in college. The Kyle Whittingham team
is going to fistfight you, so you better be ready
for it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Now.

Speaker 7 (01:06:06):
Those are the type of games I liked, and we
were always pretty good at him in college because we
had some pretty good offensive linemen.

Speaker 6 (01:06:11):
It's like, what was it somebody caught Gus Malzon coming
off the field one year when they beat the hell
out of Georgia and he said, we whipped the dog
crap out of him. So Kirby's a guy that likes
to keep school, there's no doubt. So he did and
the SEC Championship game. They were up by twenty one
already and it was one of those you think, oh hey,
just run out the clock. No, Kirby DoD went up

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for the end zone as to say, not only are
we kicking your ass right now, we're also going to
try to rub it in and be on the stage
with the trophy.

Speaker 8 (01:06:40):
And we have a good memory, a long one. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:06:44):
And if you're males on then you take it us
say okay, now what am I going to do the
next time I have to run into him? Yeah. A
lot of football people are scorekeeper's brother. That's all you
almost have to be.

Speaker 6 (01:06:53):
And it's fun too because it's you always get the
dossier of it after the career is over. A hey
there was a little something there, wasn't that? Oh yeah?
Oh yeah, no, there definitely was. You don't admit what's happened,
but later on you say, yeah the oh no, no,
for sure. Let's get back into the Astros seven one
three two one two five seven ninety against someone three
two one two five at seven ninety. A couple of

(01:07:16):
guys in particular that are in the crosshairs right now.
We'll talk about them right here, Sean Salisbury Show, Sports
Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
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Speaker 8 (01:07:33):
What is it even? Well? Did you hit the Google machine?
I mean I've looked it up a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:07:38):
Is it like one of those where you just you
put on the glove and then hold it, ay, hold
up whatever, and then a falcon just yeah, just flies it.

Speaker 8 (01:07:45):
Yeah, yeah, right there, hold it up. You have like
the glove on your hand, and so it doesn't like
you know, they.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Just hold it up.

Speaker 7 (01:07:50):
This guy it goes runs it things that runs an
aeron and comes back and lands right on there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:07:54):
I want to learn how to do falcon ry.

Speaker 6 (01:07:56):
Like I've heard of, Like I even thought about this
this morning bird watching, like like what what enjoyment do
you get out of binoculars?

Speaker 8 (01:08:05):
And oh, hey, is that a redheaded finch?

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
We didn't have.

Speaker 7 (01:08:08):
No, that's Iaan Baker finch. He was on Golf broadcast yesterday.
I'd like you to, Dan, I'd like you to expand
your horizons a little bit. I mean, I can't think
of anything better to do.

Speaker 6 (01:08:19):
I did see a grackle this weekend that I wasn't
really sure what the hell it was doing, and.

Speaker 8 (01:08:22):
All like cackle at the grackle. I did not.

Speaker 6 (01:08:24):
Cackle at the grackle, but it was like it was
like looking at a car where I was at the
Three letter grocery store, and it's like head was like
kind of like turned like almost backwards, like looking up
at the car, and I was like, I don't know,
is there like a worm or something in there? And
then it started to kind of dawn on me, you
know how, Like there's that conspiracy theory group that now
says birds are not real. They once were, but now

(01:08:46):
they've been replaced by robots.

Speaker 8 (01:08:48):
Yeah, well guess what. So I'm wondering if she's.

Speaker 7 (01:08:51):
Ever been walking down near the beach or somewhere near
water and had one of them crap on your head,
which I have. They're they're they're real, okay, And it
happened to me and yet booms splattered, and it's like, oh,
you got to be kidding me, right, so I've been
hit by him.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
They're real.

Speaker 7 (01:09:05):
I want to get big Dan, if you Dan live
a little bird watching on a Saturday during college game day,
I want you to get out there and and bird watch,
you know, do you have any I'm you know, I
told you my fast fascination for golf and my obsession.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
You know that.

Speaker 7 (01:09:19):
Sure, yeah, you see it every day with it. What
do give me a hobby that you're not doing that you'd.

Speaker 8 (01:09:26):
Like to do?

Speaker 7 (01:09:28):
Anything else, any new challenge, anything you're trying to add
to your repertoire.

Speaker 6 (01:09:32):
And it's probably not finch watching. And I'm sure that
that Doug Pike will hear this.

Speaker 8 (01:09:36):
Fishing. Are you a fisherman?

Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
I'm a novice at best, but I'd like to get
better at it and i'd like to understand it better.

Speaker 7 (01:09:44):
Okay, so you get a week long fishing trip. Are
you bass fishing somewhere? Are you going fly fishing? Do
you have to tie a fly all that? Or is
it just your pot? Is it just half day boat?
Deep sea fishing? What's your fancy?

Speaker 6 (01:09:58):
Yes, say bay bay fishing, you know, because I mean
going deep out there. If you can't see the shoreline,
then you get a little nervous. It's gonna say something
happens here. We'll get a little this Gilligan's Island, I
was gonna say, And there ain't the island anywhere out there,
and it's not only the Hey, the waters.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
You know the boat's taking on water.

Speaker 6 (01:10:16):
Well, that's great because there's not a single skiff for
about miles.

Speaker 7 (01:10:20):
Here's what I usually do if I'm going deep sea fishing,
which I do on all my when I go on vacation,
I like to like a half day boat or something.

Speaker 8 (01:10:26):
Yeah, is that I'll check the weather.

Speaker 7 (01:10:28):
Now I'm not gonna I'm not going out during hurricane
season and hoping that I can't see the shoreline all
of a sudden boom one hits in the afternoon.

Speaker 6 (01:10:35):
I'm like, I was only supposed to be Yeah, exactly,
I'm now starting.

Speaker 7 (01:10:43):
Also, I don't know about you. Are you a handyman now? Yeah,
I mean you can fix it when you read it,
but you're not a guy and fix it.

Speaker 6 (01:10:49):
I mean, if I if I watch a YouTube video,
I've been sure I could probably do it, exactly.

Speaker 7 (01:10:53):
Like, what do I want to apply my What about
like woodworking or like being able to like you know,
build a or hang drywall or you know, all those things.

Speaker 8 (01:11:04):
Great skills to know, but I don't think I really
think that's my new.

Speaker 7 (01:11:07):
Fall goal is being able to like build a piece
of furniture. You just triped my mind. I'm dead serious.
I've gotten to the point I'm watching you know, you
watch these, I don't know, they're not hobby shows, but
the mister fix it you start and it's not even
I'm not even talking about you know how to fix
the toy. We all know how to fix the jingle
and the toilet and all that stuff. I'm talking about
literally taking because I go, I go back real quick,

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and like when I took wood shop and metal shop
in high school, yeah exactly, I did. Not My dad
could fix and do any build a deck. You know,
he had my blue collar guy, but I could, Like
I didn't put enough respect on it.

Speaker 12 (01:11:45):
Then.

Speaker 7 (01:11:46):
You know, it was like it was an elective to
get through high you know, you just did it and
you went in there and guys were jacking around and
having fun. And one of our coaches was it was
was a metal shop guy, but he got pissed at
you because he was a hardcore guy.

Speaker 8 (01:11:57):
But he loved it and he cuts you. You need
to know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Constantly this is one that actually applies.

Speaker 7 (01:12:02):
Yea, And yet all these years later, now I'm caught
up because I watched these, like you know, the shows
that were they like, uh, you know, flip a home.
And I know this is going to sound crazy at
this stage of my life. It's like when I went
to get a master's degree in my fifties, people that
thought I was like, what are you doing, dude? And
I got it and I loved it. I don't know
what I'm going to do with it, but I just

(01:12:23):
to have it. I promised my parents I would years ago,
but it's this. I'm getting caught up in this. I
want to be able to if there's something to do
or got to redo a home or a room, I
want to be able to do it. So I got
to find whether it's called apprenticeship or go back to
some not just reading. I want to go and you know,

(01:12:44):
measure twice, cut once, guy right, and it's become as well.
So ill it's kit like almost like a golf thing.

Speaker 8 (01:12:49):
Do I do?

Speaker 7 (01:12:49):
I hire somebody to walk me through the basics and
then how to get to the next level. And I
know it sounds crazy, but I'm looking for that new
hobby and I think it comes to woodworking or building
a piece of furniture to sell, just so I could
do myself. I'm at that state.

Speaker 6 (01:13:03):
Yeah, food wise, because cooking for me too, I'm with you.
I love I love cooking. I love I love grilling,
Like last night did some grilling. But I've never figured
out how to do the smoking, put a smoke or
ribs all of that.

Speaker 8 (01:13:19):
I got a chef in the family.

Speaker 7 (01:13:20):
My oldest son is a chef in Austin about five
or six restaurants that they are partners in too, So
I watch him do it. I get out of the way,
not to smoke, but just the I've gotten better of
all that because I love to cook.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
That's another one. Maybe over there.

Speaker 7 (01:13:34):
Jbar M learned from a ross well that they they
know how to do it. Oh yeah, if you want
to go learn how to smoke. No, not not weed
or not cigarettes, but barbecue or smoke anything of brisket.
They'll know how to do this from ye and that
it's pretty easy to learn for you though, buddy, you'll
learn quickly, especially since you like cooking.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
It won't take long to learn.

Speaker 7 (01:13:53):
And then you just get it to where you're you're gonna,
you're gonna, you know, you're gonna go through. Let me
try this, let me try this, sure, and then you'll
you'll settle in on one. Then you'll be a chance taker.
Once you know how to do it, then you'll take
extra chances on different types. So yeah, I'm with you
man the cooking, but learning how to if somebody said, hey, Sean,
can you come help me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Put up build this room?

Speaker 7 (01:14:13):
This addition, I want to be able to do that
without looking at a YouTube video makes money too, where
it's hey, when I write the challenge, like for instance,
on my back patio for the fall, you know, I
get you lay down and I stamped the concrete. But
it's it's starting to it needs a new stamping. Instead
of hiring somebody do it, I'm gonna do it myself.
And while it's like, I don't know if I'm gonna

(01:14:35):
do it, but I know I know how to do it.
But you like, am I precise enough to do it?
I kind of want to do it myself just because.
And so that's the project I'm gonna start on next week.

Speaker 8 (01:14:43):
I like it.

Speaker 7 (01:14:44):
There you go, taking chance. Nobody's gonna pay me to
stamp the concrete. I just want to do it because
and it's not even that I just want to do
it to say, you know what, that's my stamp job.
You know there you go, Yeah, I carved guard right now,
there's a bunch of because my dad would have been laughing,
said because my dad helped me build a da if
that was connect do work.

Speaker 8 (01:15:02):
My dad came over.

Speaker 7 (01:15:03):
We had a deck built on a Saturday, right because
you know how you can need this? You need this,
I said, Dad, how do you know you? And you
got down to where there was like a little piece
of wood left and we built the deck on my home.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
I couldn't.

Speaker 7 (01:15:13):
He would have taken me three extra days to do
it with my dad, and he did so, I'm sure
in heavy probably laugh Oh boy, his son, you're gonna
you're gonna go in there and do it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
But it's gonna take.

Speaker 7 (01:15:21):
You probably four hours longer because I know there's construction
guys that are lifting and listened and smirk and say, Sean,
we can get that done two hours at your house.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
We want to.

Speaker 7 (01:15:29):
He's gonna take me about six. But eventually it's gonna
take me too.

Speaker 6 (01:15:32):
That's like like they'll like go pi, they'll go past
like Amish Land out there in Pennsylvania, and you know
you look over and you see they're they're building something
you go to lunch and you come back and it's like,
my god.

Speaker 7 (01:15:43):
Three quarter's done. They they finished the barn. All oh dude,
they'll build it. They'll have a community built in a week.
You'll get three hundred homes. So I just want to
be able to say, oh, yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
Could do it like you can't read it.

Speaker 7 (01:15:54):
But I want to be able to look and say,
you need this many you know this kind of wood,
you need this, here's the stain, and here's that. So
my first project is going to be I'm a stain
that thing and stamp it and do it all myself
and sand it and get after it.

Speaker 8 (01:16:05):
So I'm kind of looking forward.

Speaker 7 (01:16:06):
I'm looking for new hobbies other than golf because if
my golf game I'm not shooting sixty eight on a
regular baseball moving down, I need something else to get
my anger out, and it is not when I snap hook.
I need to be able to come home and hang
some drywall or something, because golf is maddening, right it.

Speaker 6 (01:16:23):
Is, It definitely is. I can fully attest to that.
John c right there. We'll get you involved. Get back
into the Astros conversation here. Don't forget too Steve Sparks
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Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
I had lived out there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued, John, Good morning, good money, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
How y'all doing it?

Speaker 8 (01:18:11):
Good Man?

Speaker 12 (01:18:12):
Last week when I came on there, you know, I
told y'all, I said, you know what the astros is.

Speaker 8 (01:18:16):
Okay, don't panic. I used to that way. Don't panic.

Speaker 12 (01:18:19):
I said, yeah, we lost a few players, but the
players uh playing for each other the clubhouses.

Speaker 5 (01:18:25):
Good them.

Speaker 12 (01:18:25):
Joe's players. He got them playing and they playing for
each other. Don't panty. He was up five games because
I seen them going to the LA and sweep them
four games in the row. I seen what they was
doing and then kinnistry was good. But I see now,
I don't see no energy. I don't see no energy
at all. That Carrells deal was all your listeners said
the same thing. That wasn't a good deal because he

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really didn't fit in. If you had have got a
picture good, if you had got a strong hitter, good.
But what they had was good enough to win. So
the only thing I had about this, y'all is the
fact that I like Ddim Brown and if they don't win,
it's gonna follow his head. All they had to do
with them pat let them no players come back right now.

(01:19:07):
They wished that they was before they made the trade.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
So I'm gonna hang up and listen to that.

Speaker 8 (01:19:11):
But that was a bad one. Thank god, I appreciate it.
I only agree that they're worse off after the trades.

Speaker 7 (01:19:19):
I love John. John always has strong shirt passion. I'm
with you. They lost three, They're not they didn't give
up enough to be worth They're better. They underachieved that,
thank you and Dana Brown. This last weekend had zero
to do with these trades. I mean, they had that guy,
what I'm talking about when I say that is you

(01:19:40):
can't all of a sudden go back and and our
revision is history says, oh the trades were good.

Speaker 8 (01:19:45):
We're giving these trades. I mean, but you look around
what they give.

Speaker 7 (01:19:47):
I mean, they won all three situations with this and
they will be better. And John, I get what you're saying,
but stand in pat this city would have gone nuts
had they stood. Had they stood, Patton didn't did not thing.
Correy is an upgrade. Paradis isn't coming back this year.
You get an every day Sanchez has got power and
pop from the left side that you needed. You got

(01:20:09):
versatility now with the infield, with your EUS. I mean,
they got better. They didn't perform that way this weekend.
But this weekend's performance has nothing to do with did
they win their trades. It's sure it'll fall in the
GM and the manager and the rest of it, but
it's hard for me to give a lot to put
a lot of flak on the If the Astros go
in and lose a game and Caray hits the ball

(01:20:31):
hard and they're playing good baseball but they just can't
pull it out and they lose two to one or
lose six to one because they have a six run
inning that you can't catch up from. I don't see
how that's on Dana Brown. I think they did get
better on paper and they didn't get better as players.
Correy is an upgrade period and so and they've got
three guys that can start and play every day that

(01:20:52):
had nothing to do, and that should not fall.

Speaker 8 (01:20:53):
On Dana Brown. I don't think anybody's arguing with that.

Speaker 7 (01:20:55):
Dana Brown won the trade deadline when it comes to
the Astros, they didn't. For the Astros, they want it now.
The guy's got to go perform. I would have done
the same.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
Thing he did.

Speaker 6 (01:21:04):
Why don't we start to feel better, feel better about
the Astros? And I know just a guy who can
help us do that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Let's go.

Speaker 6 (01:21:10):
He joins us every single Monday eight o'clock gower. He
is Steve Sparks. That's coming up right here, Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
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This is the Sewan Salisbury Show.

Speaker 7 (01:21:40):
For our weekly eight o'clock visit with Steve Sparks, who's
uh on the road. Too great to have him with
the Steve thanks uh, give me your first initial thoughts
when the trade deadline ended?

Speaker 8 (01:21:49):
What you thought, my man, and welcome in, Thank you
very much.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
I thought it was great.

Speaker 13 (01:21:55):
You know, getting Carea back obviously energize the team. It's
going to be a gold glove third basement at some
point in his career. I'm pretty certain of that. As
natural as he looks at that position, I think going forward,
you know, you look at that trade and not to
even talk about Hazus Sanchez and what he's going to
mean with the balance and the lineup, Andrius and his versatility,

(01:22:18):
but I think you're going to have an opportunity next year,
you know, with Paradus coming back, Correa, Payniaias Dubon, all
these guys, You're going to have a chance to get
these guys a.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
Little more fresh throughout the season.

Speaker 13 (01:22:32):
That was one thing I was worried about a little
bit with so many guys, withol Tuve and Paynia and
Walker and Cam Smith, all these guys playing so much
that I thought it started to wear them down. So
getting more versatility and more guys in the mix, I
think the Astros will be able to prosper and get

(01:22:52):
guys off the feet a little bit to keep them
more fresh and productive.

Speaker 7 (01:22:56):
Yeah, Steven didn't with this trade deadline, didn't they. I Mean,
you talk about needs, and we talked about this in
the NFL Draft all time. Oh you draft best available
or need. You needed a third basement and a star
bringing back your leadership.

Speaker 8 (01:23:07):
You get Korea.

Speaker 7 (01:23:08):
You needed a left handed hitting outfielder who casts pop
and can play every day, you got him. You got
a versatile infielder who's a Gold Glove guy too. I
mean they pretty much. It had been nice to get
a Dylan Ceese. But in truth, with these guys coming back,
what part of the deadline wasn't good? Other than the
three losses to the Red Sox. They got better, as
Dana Brown's goals been.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
That's right, they did. They got better, and then that's
all you're hoping for.

Speaker 13 (01:23:31):
And it sounded like that the price on starting pitching
and even relievers just was just didn't make sense. You know,
you weren't gonna, you know, mortgage your future just to
just to get a guy for a couple of months,
And it just didn't make sense. And the Astros are
gonna almost have Christmas every four or five days in August,
it seems like with so many guys coming back, and

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so why would you mortgage the future with Arraghetti and
Javier and Garcia and JP France and your don There's
probably another one or two in there too. They're gonna
get Jake Myers. You know, they're gonna get guys coming back,
and that's the good.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
News, you know. And they're gonna be able to plug
and play and match up.

Speaker 13 (01:24:13):
And I think when you go into the postseason, you
know you're looking at.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
All, right, what does our bullpen look like? And what
does our bench look like?

Speaker 13 (01:24:22):
And I think the ass shows are going to be
looking really good and both of those areas going into
the postseason.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
I think that's what Joe Spotted wants more than anything.

Speaker 7 (01:24:30):
And and you talked about both of those, Steve, don't
they both of those with now post deadline and going
into it sans the Red Sox series, but both of
those are world series tied. They've got a world series
bullpen here, do they not?

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
They do?

Speaker 12 (01:24:46):
They do?

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
They've got versatility and you go in, right, death got a.

Speaker 13 (01:24:52):
Lefty at all, but yeah, they've got four or five
lefties in their bullpen now and you got guys who
can get righty's and lefties out pretty good about your matchups.
So I think that's the biggest thing about the Astros
is I think as a unit right now, they feel
pretty well balanced.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
And ready to go.

Speaker 13 (01:25:11):
And I thought that series against Boston Saturday night was
a good example. They left fourteen men on base and
you're scratching your head and you're shaking your head and
feel disappointed at fourteen opportunities driving in some more runs.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
And I think it's only a matter of time before
this Astros offense really starts to click. Seeing the guys
hit the ball really hard.

Speaker 13 (01:25:32):
I bet if you looked at it, I've hit the
astros average exit velocity and I know a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
That turns people off.

Speaker 13 (01:25:38):
And that's the objective, hit the ball hard, and I
think the Astros did a good job of that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Sometimes you get a little unlucky in the series.

Speaker 7 (01:25:45):
Hey Steve, aside from the guys left on base and
having an opportunity, and they did hit it and we
and I think Kara hit the ball had I thought
there was a great energy about him this weekend. Aside
from the good and the bad of those What was
your biggest disc disappointment not saands the runners in on
baser and scoring position. Coming out of that, what's the

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one thing you said, man, that's got to get better.

Speaker 13 (01:26:09):
The fundamentals, you know, protecting the baseball. They didn't play
good defense in that series, which is uncharacteristic. They've been
very good at that all year long. As I said
this on the broadcast yesterday, the Astros are tied to
first in giving up unearned runs this season, which is
a great indicator of how good you play defense.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Boston second to last.

Speaker 13 (01:26:29):
The Astros have only giving up twenty seven underned runs
during the course of the entire season, which means that
the pitchers can rely on their defenders to make plays,
and they didn't do that in Boston.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
And I'm sure they'll probably address that. They work very hard.

Speaker 13 (01:26:46):
Shown Man, if you get there an hour before batting practice,
which is pretty early.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Why would you.

Speaker 13 (01:26:52):
But they're working on defense every day, man, They're getting
after it, and it's probably very concentrated. They're not spending
a ton of time on it, but they do it
right for a short amount of time. And you probably
saw that a lot in football practices all the time,
apecially as the season got a little deeper. But you
work on fundamentals every single day and do it right

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every day.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
It shows up in the games.

Speaker 7 (01:27:16):
Steve, you know, callers and you you you hear it
just like we do. And I don't know what the
slope is. I know I'm coming from football. It's different
and people, you know, whether it's a player and constructive
criticism as opposed to, you know, hurting the guy's feelings,
all those things that go with the emotional side of
pro sports and well used sports and college sports as well.
But you know that the talk and I think Joe
a Spot has done a phenomenal job. But when we

(01:27:37):
get asked these questions, you're better equipped to answer this
than we are, and that I am. Where is the line?
But he's so calm and even keeled. Is there a
time when things aren't going well that you need to loud?
Talk may not be the best part of it, but
out loud let him know that hey can't leave runners
in score. Joe's been so consistent with just staying level headed.

(01:27:59):
Do you need a blow up from him once in
a while? And I talked to him about that in
the spring. You know, at the Astros fest, and he
kind of laughs said, yeah, I get it. We were
laughing about his ejection last year, the first one, and
I'm not even just talking about ejection. Do you need
is there more accountability when you call him out loud?
Or do you like the way he goes about his
level headed business that some of us just don't have.

Speaker 13 (01:28:20):
I think every manager in baseball is probably different in football,
but every manager in baseball has to be himself.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
Yep.

Speaker 13 (01:28:28):
And I played on I played on teams where I've
played on veteran teams where we had a We've had
managers that tried to do stuff that it was out
of character for himself, and you can't fake it for
one hundred and sixty two games.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
You just really have to be you. He can't be everybody,
can't be Billy Martin or Earl Weaver.

Speaker 13 (01:28:49):
You have to be yourself. And you know, you start
to think about, Okay, do I need.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
To blow up because our bats aren't that good?

Speaker 4 (01:28:56):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
With runners in scoring position.

Speaker 13 (01:29:00):
I think fact that Dave Roberts was saying this when
we were in LA playing the Dodgers, and the reporters
asking right after Max Munsey had gotten hurt and that's
when the Astros played him. They said, what does Max
Munsey mean for your lineup? He said, you know what,
we are going to miss him, and this is what
we're gonna miss. We're gonna miss his at bats. We're

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gonna miss the quality of visit bats, We're going to
miss the number of pitches he sees because we don't
have anybody else like him.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
I think right now the Astros are missing paradus Is
at bats.

Speaker 13 (01:29:31):
You know, he got to three and two almost every
time he get to the plate, saw thirty seven pitches
one game at Dykon Park this year, And I think
that trickles down and it allows the starting pitcher to
get through the game a lot easier. And we keep
looking down at our score books in the seventh or
eighth inning. And we talked about Lucas Giolito yesterday completing
eight innings for.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
The first time in five years.

Speaker 13 (01:29:54):
Over and over to see starting pitchers get deeper into
the games because they miss.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
Those at bats by guys like Parade.

Speaker 13 (01:30:01):
So I think, you know, and you're talking about what
the manager needs to do, just go into those hitters
meetings every once in a while. Let's re iterate Hey,
it's you don't have to swing at the first pitch
every time. Be comfortable hitting with two strikes if you
have to, and you'll be fine. So I'd like to
see him work the pitchers a little bit better.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:30:20):
And along with that, Steven, the opposite is true. And
I know this is the aberration, but your guy paying
you getting back in the lineup was hunting first pictures,
bam bam, bam, right, and the patience of working the count.
But man, he saw something he liked and he was
getting after it. I loved his energy. It didn't look
like he missed a game with the way he was playing.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
Yeah, he was very energized, very excited. Me a lot
of hugs, but he was ready to get to work.
And I love what he told. Joe shared this with
us a couple of days ago, that Correa just kept
texting him asking him about different players on the team.

Speaker 13 (01:30:55):
He wanted to know about everybody else on the team
because he was he was hoping he could help those guys,
you know, as a leader. He wanted to know, Okay,
what's Kristen Walker, Like, what's Taylor Trammel Like?

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
I mean, he wanted to.

Speaker 13 (01:31:06):
Go over everybody, just so he knew how he could
be a better teammate for these for these guys, And man,
it wasn't lost on me when there was a meeting
on the mound that Carlos did a lot of that talking,
you know. And I think part of it had to
do with the Red Sox had just faced Minnesota in
the series before, so he had a lot to say.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
But I think we're going to see a lot more
of that.

Speaker 13 (01:31:27):
He's a national leader. I remember this a J. Hinch
saying telling me one time, uh Korea. I think he
broke a rib.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
At one point. Is an astro. He said, Hey, watch
the rest of our infield defense, you.

Speaker 13 (01:31:43):
Know, while he's on the high l watch how our
defense suffers because he keeps everybody involved. He communicates after
every pitch, you know, and he's looking around at the
outfield and you know he'll give him a fist pump.
Everybody stays more involved with Carlos out there on the field.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
He's a he's a great leader.

Speaker 7 (01:32:02):
Well he's sure as I never saw this movie coming, man,
I didn't, and it's great to have him back. It's
a definite upgrade and adds depth. Steve before I let
you go. All right, all these things we talk about
runners in scoring position, getting healthy, you get to rub
that Genie bottle and one of those your your biggest
need between now and late September to get where they

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want to go.

Speaker 8 (01:32:25):
What has to happen the rest of this year for
you get one?

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
What is it? It's ord On?

Speaker 13 (01:32:31):
You know, it's getting your on back in the lineup.
He's he's the best hitter on their team. He's the
most dynamic player in the division. Uh, he's going to
be very important, you know, and get tired of asking.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Every day, Okay, where is he? What's going on?

Speaker 13 (01:32:48):
And I think the Astros are just ready to getting
back in there because he's going to make everybody better.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
And we already saw it three days ago. Once you
start writing the.

Speaker 13 (01:32:57):
Lineup now and you're seeing how deep this lineup can
be with Cam Smith Babe batting eighth, and you know
Rius or du Bond batting night and you're starting to
look at all, right, this is what it looked like
when the Astros are going to the World Series.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
This is a deep line up.

Speaker 13 (01:33:12):
You got a lot of guys who could hurt you,
but he gets Sean, it gets a hundred times better when.

Speaker 8 (01:33:18):
Oh yeah, just his presence alone, right, Steve.

Speaker 13 (01:33:22):
Everybody focused, Yeah, everybody focuses on him, you know, in
two or three batters, even beforehand, you're you're worried about
when's Jordon coming to the plate, and do we have
to pitch to it? And uh, he's a difference maker
and the Astros need him in there.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
Do you think we see him this month? Steve?

Speaker 13 (01:33:42):
I do, Yeah, I think they do, you know, Fingers
across and hoping that he gets gets here sooner than later.
But I'm not I'm not exactly sure on where we are.
It sounds like he's swinging the bat in Florida. Uh,
he's doing his best to get out there. But we're
just like everybody else, we're just hoping it it happens
pretty soon.

Speaker 7 (01:34:01):
What a joy that'll be, right, just having him here,
And if he's Jordne who's supposed to be Jordon, that
could be a lot of punishment on opposing pitching staff. Steve,
great stuff, brother, and enjoy this next series. We look
forward to seeing you back home, get a chance at
Boston again when they're back here, and a lot before then,
and get this momentum back the way it's supposed to.
We always appreciate you joining us and you have a

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good trip.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
My man sounds good, San, thanks for having me.

Speaker 7 (01:34:26):
You bet, that's a great Steve Sparks. We'll come back
and discuss at Sports Talk seven ninety and yeah, Jordone
back healthy and ready to roll would be great. But
Conneth Cray is an upgrade as well, and it is
a deep lineup if and then when this team has
the biggest problem for all of us is when is
that timeframe to get them all healthy on the mound
as well. We'll discuss Sports Talk seven ninety more.

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
Sean Salzburg, get in, strap in and write.

Speaker 6 (01:34:53):
In preseason action this coming Saturday against the Vikings in
Minnesota seven one three two one two five, seven ninety.
A couple other things too, you know that we touched
on with Sparky and also to have talked about a
little bit throughout the show today, Sean. One of them
is Jose Altuve, and I shudder to even remotely be

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in the possible realm of criticizing the guy, because you can't.

Speaker 8 (01:35:23):
He's above the approach.

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
Oh he isn't.

Speaker 8 (01:35:25):
For everything that he's done here, it doesn't matter. I
get it. I get it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 6 (01:35:30):
It leads into what somebody brought up earlier about the
base running. There is no perfect player, and it is
frustrating with them. He's a horrible base run and it
does need to it does need to. At this point,
it's not going to improve. He is who he is.

Speaker 7 (01:35:45):
Maybe it's not fair horrible as like saying a guy
has noe and listen, there's not a soul. And we
don't even really need to qualify this, but we will
one last time.

Speaker 8 (01:35:55):
I will for me.

Speaker 7 (01:35:57):
I don't think there's anybody on the planet that doesn't.
Even the people who bow him on the road, that's
just that that that's fake news. Okay, they don't even
know where they're buying. That was a huge part of it,
and they did it again. They're in Boston. Oh and
you've got a manager in the dugout too, That's what
I'm saying, right, So it's just stop, okay, But so

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you got to just kind of That's why it doesn't
bother the dude.

Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
He just keeps me.

Speaker 7 (01:36:21):
It's now almost become so comical they bow him that
he's got to flip the script say it's a compliment
because they know every time when somebody in the opposing
building is booing you, you know they love you, or
if they don't love you, they respect you. And Reggie
Jackson saying, what's that? Oh, that's exactly right, and so listen,

(01:36:43):
jose al tuove is is. I just don't know how
you don't love the dude, let alone the player. Hall
of Fame, player, Hall of Fame, human being. Okay, then
we know that. And when I say atrocious space Runner.
He makes bad decisions at times that leave you back.
At times he looks like, dude, if you run the
bases before and he's fast and he knows how to

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run the bases, don't misunderstanding, but he makes at If
he's gonna make a mistake, it usually ends there. That's
where if you're gonna say, okay, find me the weakness
in his career. When all said and done, hell, he'd
be probably when he gives his speech in Cooper's Out
to say, I sure wasn't in a Hall of Fame
base runner.

Speaker 6 (01:37:19):
At times I didn't run up here to the podium.
That's good for everybody. I got picked off, right, No,
but I love him. But he is he listened.

Speaker 7 (01:37:27):
He's still and he would not expect anybody to just
give him a Hall pass because he hits well and
he's a Hall of Fame player. It's it's a weakness
if he has one, that's it. And you know sometimes
he chases. We laugh, we say, well, why is he
chasing that high pitch and then two pitches later up
in amstraks and it ends up twenty rows up. So
love him, but that's going to cost you in a game.

(01:37:50):
It's just got to be smarter when it comes out,
more judicious in your base running. I hate to say this, dude,
because I'm a go listen, go for the green in two.
I didn't come here to lay up. I get it.
It almost like he has to air on the side
of conservative side. When he runs the basis.

Speaker 6 (01:38:06):
He goes full Leroy Jenkins with it. Video gamers out there,
I know who I'm talking about.

Speaker 7 (01:38:10):
I know and people you can't criticize, Yeah, I actually can.
That's like saying if you were in New England and
Brady throws three picks in the first half, you couldn't
criticize him your ass. See, I can not personally criticize him. Listen,
there's criticism going with Mahomes and we're the number has
been the last few years. So it happens, and listen,
you're allowed, but it's it's got to be fair criticism.
And there is fair criticism that jose Al two Bay's

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strength is not base running decisions right now, and it
hasn't been since I've lived here in Houston, and here
there is no perfect player other than that, he's pretty
damn close. But uh yeah, that's a weakness. Almost showed
weird to Tad this weekend.

Speaker 6 (01:38:45):
You almost feel like the Good Lord, you know, when
he presented jose L two Bay and said, hey, look,
not going to give you much height, but we're gonna
be able to work around that because I'm gonna get
and you're gonna be really good, great bat the ball skills.
You're at the beginning of your career going to be
a good fielder. But then as time goes it's going
to wear all. But you're versal enough. We can move
you around. You're gonna be a great guy. But the
only thing that I'm not going to give you is

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being able to run.

Speaker 8 (01:39:07):
The basis right.

Speaker 7 (01:39:08):
I mean, he can't do that's right, And Josea at
times has validated the good Lord's decision. Okay, I you know,
we try to add a little light to it. You
just hope in a situation now, every game matters to
a misunderstanding. You'd hate for it to be in a
situation where you're facing great pitching and that one runner
who you need to get to second base move over
doesn't get picked off first base, and then the next

(01:39:30):
guy hits a gapper and you lose two to one,
but there's nobody on second base. You get my point, right,
and so yes, but we've been listen, this is groundhog
Day when it comes to this has been his weakness
for a minute, and that's okay. I just know this,
when it gets right down to the nutcut and time
we're talking about, he'll make more great decisions than h

(01:39:52):
than he will bad ones. The problem is you can't
pinch run for him four straight times at the game.
But I love the guy, But it's okay criticize him
because quite frankly, he's when it comes to base running
at times, he's earned that, just like he's earned all
the all the praise we give him.

Speaker 6 (01:40:06):
It's like a little league, you know, where the catcher
gets on base, all right, pinch runner, because the catcher's
got to put their gear back on, and this Ken.

Speaker 8 (01:40:13):
Get you put his gear back on and go back
at the game.

Speaker 6 (01:40:15):
It'll be Joe saying, hey, can we switch out the
catcher but to run for him?

Speaker 8 (01:40:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:40:22):
Yeah, if Martin Maldonado's running, if he was still here
at running pinch running for Altuve, there's the message you need.
And obviously and when he hits the ground run and
it's a good decision. Dude, he's fast, he gets it.
He just sometimes if there was ever going to be
a little bit of gap and decision making for rosel Tuve,
the basis is probably it it's a blind I understand,

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we'll give him a little Hall pass. But in truth,
now I want you to take that to Detroit and
it's the Alcs and you lose to to one.

Speaker 8 (01:40:51):
That's why it's amplified.

Speaker 7 (01:40:54):
And then if I ask you, well, is it a
If I ask you, was that a good decision or
is the above criticisan, you'd say absolutely not. And he
wouldn't expect you to that. That's why I love him,
That's why criticize him like getting after him too hard.
Is like he Jose al Tuove knows when he gets
picked off that he should be. He understands it was

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a bad mistake by him.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
Oggie Girrito would not have liked that. Have you ever
seen that?

Speaker 8 (01:41:21):
Dude? How do we get picked off?

Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:41:23):
Yeah, what do you think you're messing with?

Speaker 8 (01:41:25):
Here?

Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
And Garto let you let it rip too?

Speaker 12 (01:41:28):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
Yeah, fun. I had some buddies of mine that were
in that room getting yelled at.

Speaker 7 (01:41:33):
I had somebodies from cal State Fullerton and got a
load Doggie Garrito before he got here. Right, you know
what I'm saying, You're exactly right. So, but he knows
you just don't want that. You know, you can live
with it at times you say, okay, we're up six
to two, but there's going to come a time in
the postseason where that can't happen because it gets you
sent home. Because, as you eve't heard, Steve Sparks mentioned
about the the the the base running, playing defense, those

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things that we kind of take for granted at times
until a ball goes to a guy's legs or he
doesn't he doesn't get to a ball in the gap
that he normally gets to, or three base running gaps
cost you a game in the series, that's when it
becomes a problem.

Speaker 8 (01:42:10):
Hopefully that won't rear its head.

Speaker 7 (01:42:12):
A is A is ay, you know, go through this
season and then we'll be talking more about his bat
and his performance. The best part of that video is
when he.

Speaker 6 (01:42:20):
Goes, you, guys might forget about this ten minutes from now.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
But I gotta live with this the rest of my believe.

Speaker 7 (01:42:26):
Yes, and one of the great rants of all time
and also one of the great for people don't know.
We're talking about Augie Garrieda, the great.

Speaker 8 (01:42:35):
Headphones.

Speaker 7 (01:42:36):
Yeah who headphones and turn up the volume because you're
gonna love it so but yeah, it's they they're doesn't inevitent.
We always talk about this too. When a rookie comes
into a game in baseball. Let's say you put him
at the third base. What ends up happening? Dan ball
find you, or if you're a quarterback and you're struggling,

(01:42:56):
guess what.

Speaker 8 (01:42:58):
Eventually, Hey, that's safety wants supposed to be over the.

Speaker 6 (01:43:00):
Top right Now they're over the top right and you
know what happens that inevitably the game will be in
your hands.

Speaker 8 (01:43:06):
With the final drive after you've struggled.

Speaker 7 (01:43:08):
It finds you. Now then you can either make up
for it or buy into it. Right that I'm not
supposed to take him down and score, because well, in fact,
it finds you. If you're a pitcher and you're coming
in for your first start in the basis and you're
a reliever, guess who inevitably is coming to the plate
Tony gwynn Otani, I'll to you you're coming to against

(01:43:29):
a guy who's like, oh gosh, hey, welcome to the
big If you're arch manning, it finds you. Your first
big start is going to be at the horseshoe. It
finds you, and so unfortunately for event, it's it's found him.
And that's what you got to guard against, because those
are the things that they'll find you, and they'll find
you in the in the most inopportunity for you moments,

(01:43:50):
but also the most big opportunity moments, and you got
to guard against that because it'll be pitching. It it'll
be all that, but it'll be an air, it'll be
a base running GAF. It'll be a runners at second
third with no outs and them getting out of an inning,
whether it's the Astros or somebody else did end up
carrying you through and in the playoffs. It's all good pitching.
Every single base runner, just like every possession, every down

(01:44:10):
is fragile, dude, and it's something we're gonna have to
keep an eye on because that should.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
Not be a weakness. Should not.

Speaker 6 (01:44:18):
And the little things that the Astros were doing early
on this season, they had done to them this weekend.
And you hope that does not stick and stay that way, Gary,
John Brandon, see you all right there. You want to
join in some one three two, one two five seven
ninety the concern level with the Astros, we'll discuss.

Speaker 8 (01:44:34):
It right here. It is a Shaan Salisbury Show, Sports
SOX seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:44:38):
Live out there for the Sean Salisbury Show. Continued, Well,
coughs you up or.

Speaker 6 (01:44:46):
Cracks you out, well, both lusty and in that case
right there, you know it's right right right there, right there.
But uh is that every once in a while, you know,
I've got to be able to remind the audience that disdain.

Speaker 8 (01:44:57):
Dan is there?

Speaker 6 (01:44:58):
Yes, I agree, such a batting average is good of
keeping it positive?

Speaker 7 (01:45:02):
Oh yeah, oh no, no, no, there's no doubt and you're
not faking it. That's what I like it's when it's
positive positive some if disdain Dan rears his head, you
don't have to apologize for it. No, But I kind
of like when disdain Dan rears his head, don't you triply?
Don't you like when disdain Dan comes out? Makes for
a good band? I can't go to it too often.
It's like it's like a comedic bit. If you do

(01:45:24):
the same thing over and over again and it hits well,
then yeah, of course, Like you know, you go see
Andrew dice Clay.

Speaker 6 (01:45:29):
You know you need to get nursery rhymes. That'ds Andrew
dice Clay's thing, right, you know for uh, but every
now and then you want to leave it out so
people crave it again.

Speaker 5 (01:45:37):
Right?

Speaker 8 (01:45:37):
Oh man, dude, what happened?

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
Hey? You know what?

Speaker 8 (01:45:39):
Got to try some different material.

Speaker 6 (01:45:41):
I will say this though, like, for example, it's stuck
in my crawl for years. Dave Matthews band went and
saw them and they're like, hey, we got some new stuff.
Think you guys are really gonna like it. It's like, Dave, Dave,
that's that's not why we're here, man. We're here to
see you because we don't want to hear the stuff
that you sell it Starbucks. We're here because we want

(01:46:01):
to hear Satellite. We want to hear what would you say,
We want to hear all those songs.

Speaker 7 (01:46:06):
Yeah, I'm not going to an Eagles concert hoping they
give me their stuff they're introducing for twenty twenty six.
I'll hear that on the radio and then you can
play to your concert.

Speaker 8 (01:46:13):
Befar.

Speaker 6 (01:46:13):
I'm not going to Elton John. Want to hear something?
Hey man, this I check this one out.

Speaker 7 (01:46:19):
Great. I need to hear Rocketman. I need to hear
I need to hear Elton John's cuts. Right, And I'm
with you one hundred percent. But dis Day and Dan
needs the rears head.

Speaker 6 (01:46:30):
It's like you go see Metallica, It's like, yeah, sant
Anger is great, but inter Sandman's where it SATs. You know,
the Unforgiven.

Speaker 7 (01:46:38):
Can you imagine? Can you imagine they're leaving that out
of a concert? Help be able to see Billy Joel
and he doesn't play piano man, Yeah, exactly that is
who you are.

Speaker 8 (01:46:46):
You are the piano man.

Speaker 7 (01:46:48):
Take a matter of fact, go past the curfew at
the concert. Yeah, just to play that cut if it matters.
I'm with you, man, I like that too.

Speaker 8 (01:46:55):
I've got to cut it off.

Speaker 6 (01:46:56):
I'm sorry, guys, I've got to put away the harmonica.

Speaker 8 (01:46:59):
No, bring out the harmonic.

Speaker 7 (01:47:00):
I want to hear the new stuff on the radio
and then and once we'll get used to it, then
then play it for me at the concert. Don't break
it out at the concert live, get it in that
studio and let's go. And then the next concert we're
gonna becomes.

Speaker 8 (01:47:12):
Part of us.

Speaker 6 (01:47:13):
It could be like the Springsteen, right, you know he
talks to you for three and a half hours of
the show.

Speaker 8 (01:47:17):
That's why it's four hours. Yeah, give me the music.

Speaker 6 (01:47:20):
Yeah, I wrote this song when my son was in
the Fire Academy. All right, how about you just play
Fire Academy or whatever the song is?

Speaker 8 (01:47:27):
Right right?

Speaker 7 (01:47:27):
Yeah about that? Go on, go on Twitter and put
your just tell us about it. I just want to
hear your music.

Speaker 8 (01:47:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:47:34):
I have noticed that artists have stopped doing the here
let me go on and on about things, because it's like.

Speaker 8 (01:47:40):
Yeah, you know, we hear enough of it.

Speaker 6 (01:47:42):
Well, it's not only that, it's like, you know, you've
got your drummer, like you know, playing the symbols and everything, like.

Speaker 7 (01:47:47):
He's got fifteen minutes, and I was like, dude, we
got to get to the next set. Just play the songs.

Speaker 6 (01:47:51):
Yeah, and then maybe every once in a while, you know,
while you got the drummer on the.

Speaker 7 (01:47:55):
Drums, and then he gave me forty five seconds to
go haywire. There's no I want to hear that from.
I do love it, yes, and let him let it
rip guitar, y'all know because he's one of yours. He's
from Houston.

Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 7 (01:48:09):
That's one of my favorite parts of concerts when when
they do that. But I can tell you this the
other side. Yeah, And you know, I do like when
somebody's like like Elton John when he was doing he
was telling the story like a song, give me a
little history of how this song happened. And it was quick,
but he's talking out oh yeah, and he's he's hitting
the piano a little bit right and he's talking to it.
But he got to it quick. That gave you the
history of why did you know when it came to

(01:48:32):
Marilyn Monroe? You know what? Why this song? And then
he tells you real quick man, and you know the
writer and then he tried to you know whatever song
was say no, this doesn't sound right, and then all
of a sudden you do it, and everybody goes create
it's the number one. You're like, oh okay, and so
I like hearing that. But I don't And I don't
care if it's Republican or Democrat. I don't need a
whole lot of politics on stage. I just don't I

(01:48:54):
get enough of that. I'm there to hear your great
skill set. That's exactly right, just like I would like
it to sport event, just like i'd like a concert
and a movie. I just want to go there for
the I get all the other crap anyway. That's the
stuff that I need when it comes. That's that's why
I buy the tickets.

Speaker 6 (01:49:09):
What always cracks me up for bands that like are
trying so hard to be able to connect with the audience,
where even.

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
If nobody in the immediate.

Speaker 8 (01:49:16):
Band is from that area.

Speaker 6 (01:49:19):
Yeah, and he's one of our own, he's one of
your own, Roady number.

Speaker 1 (01:49:23):
Three John, he's from right here in the Woodlands. Ah.

Speaker 8 (01:49:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:49:28):
Other than that, nobody's from Texas. Sorry, guys from Seattle.
We just come through here and play every once in
a while. There you go at least the at least
the city on the back of the guitar was right.

Speaker 8 (01:49:38):
At least I got the one right.

Speaker 6 (01:49:41):
That's always the best of Somebody goes out there, all right, thank.

Speaker 8 (01:49:44):
You Cleveland, you're in Detroit.

Speaker 7 (01:49:47):
Yeah, cut the drugs man, get the city right, that's right.

Speaker 8 (01:49:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:49:52):
Oh that's that's another one too. If you've been to
a show where somebody are like, oh man, this is
not a good one for them, but just kind of
piss them off right from the start to what hotel
you woke up in. It it's you know, crowds. Crowds
are a lot like dogs. You know, you gotta you
gotta be able to make sure that they know you're safe,
so then they'll feel safe around you.

Speaker 7 (01:50:11):
The difference is dogs forgive you sometimes, crowds don't.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
Oh no.

Speaker 6 (01:50:15):
There are plenty of artists that I've seen that I've
been like, never again, Hey I got free tickets. Nope,
not going to see them, But dogs burn me once.
I ain't going back. Those dogs will think you're the
king five minutes later.

Speaker 8 (01:50:25):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (01:50:26):
That's why we all like dogs more than him and
just carry treats with you all the time. That's that's
always works. I was gonna say, usually usually that's able
to play. All right, A lot of you went away
in talking these strows. No, there's a lot of concern
out there. Well, we'll discuss it here as we continue along.
It is the Shawn Salisbury Show on a Monday Sports
Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:50:45):
Let's go, this is the Sewan Salisbury Show. Get it
fired up? Gary in Spring Gary, Good morning Gary.

Speaker 6 (01:50:59):
I think Gary is the livering parts. We'll check back
in with Gary in a second. Let's go to John
on the northwest side. John, what's going on?

Speaker 14 (01:51:06):
Yeah, Man, Gary probably got tired of waiting. Listen, Man,
that ain't that Red Sox series.

Speaker 8 (01:51:13):
Man.

Speaker 14 (01:51:14):
You know, I have not criticized Joe's Spider at all
the seasons because I thought he's been really good.

Speaker 1 (01:51:20):
But he's not above criticism.

Speaker 14 (01:51:22):
Now, the game Saturday, we already lost the person the
game Saturday. I mean it was clear to everybody. Grdon
came out there. From his first pitch. He was horrible.
He was horrible, and I was sitting there waiting, Okay,
give up two runs. Then he give up four. I'm like, well,
I know he's not coming back. Its fire have brought

(01:51:43):
him back.

Speaker 1 (01:51:44):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
I don't care what happened after that.

Speaker 14 (01:51:47):
In baseball, when you give up four to six runs,
you don't have a chance to win that game. I
just thought that Joe stuck regarding too long. You know,
sometimes managed just do that, but you know, I just
thought he stuck with the guy too long, man. And
I think they had a day off before they even

(01:52:08):
played the Red Sox series. It's not like he couldn't
have went to another picture. So I thought, we really
need to, you know, make a battle at that series,
win that second game, and then come back the third game.
Although the ashtro it's almost clear that you were gonna
lose anyway with all that stupid city stuff they did yesterday.
But I just wanted to say I've been good with Joe,

(01:52:29):
but that game Saturday, Man, you keep a guy in
there for three indred then he give up six runs.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
Well that's all your fault. Cat y'all have a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
Let me what you think about it.

Speaker 6 (01:52:39):
I appreciate John, I mean I said it earlier. And
don't get it twisted. We're not saying that Joe is
not above criticism. He absolutely is, and we talked about
it in the second segment of the show twofold is
I understand what he's doing with Gordon there. You've got
to be able to preserve the bullpen as much as possible.
This isn't the postseason. You're going to have a game tomorrow,
then you're gonna have a game out for that, and

(01:53:00):
then you're gonna have a game after that. You get
my point, there's still a long way to go. But
at the same time, use the fan base and we
we don't want to hear when you leave fourteen guys
on base.

Speaker 8 (01:53:10):
Oh we're putting together good at bats. Clearly you're not.
It's clearly you're not.

Speaker 7 (01:53:14):
Yeah, it's somewhere in the middle. Obviously, you're gonna need
fresh like Steve Sparks mentions all the time about being
fresh for the for a fresh bullpen will matter and
pitching staff. And so you're trying to put he even
mentioned it, trying to you try to push them a
little more. Can you give me another inning? You know,
we see Giolito, So you saw that. So fromber, yes,
you're exactly right. You're pushing them a little bit, say okay,

(01:53:35):
kind of almost like challenging to pitch your way through
this man it's gonna be okay, get out of the
fourth and get to any and he did. It wasn't pretty,
but but he found a way to at least extend
bullpenned rest.

Speaker 8 (01:53:46):
For a minute or an inning or two. Right, So, no,
that's part of it.

Speaker 7 (01:53:50):
And then the other part is there's criticism out there
to be had for not being able to push runs
across and doing it. But also this is his team,
so you got to know when at fire and your belly.
And Steve Sparks made a great point. Players look for
consistency from their manager. But I'll also add to that
one one caveat to that for me is every now
and then, the way you shake them up is by
doing something they're not used to. And so I think

(01:54:11):
you can add both together. And Steve makes a great point,
So both of them are there. It's not all or
nothing in both and it's somewhere lize that this bullpen's
going to need to be fresh. And also, no, Joe's
not above criticism. And I would imagine Joe's made some
times and decisions as we all have, like I would
have done that different than I did, or I would
have answered that different. And he's right, there wasn't that

(01:54:33):
many good at bats on Sunday. I'm sorry to tell
you there just wasn't. There wasn't that many good at bats. Yeah,
three hits. That's not putting together good at pats, right,
and so and and Fromber had his stuff sometimes. But
in truth, if we're comparing it to the Fromber we've seen,
that wasn't the Fromber we've seen sideways in the fourth
and ended up and they didn't get any more runs.
They were shut down the rest of it, and they

(01:54:53):
did a good job of keeping the Red Sox in tow.
But with a five run lead, there was no pressure
on the Red Sox to stress was on the Astros,
and unfortunately they got swept. And there should be a
little bit of a little bit of pissed off nature
rolling into Miami.

Speaker 6 (01:55:07):
See when you had that inning that the Red Sox
had yesterday, then I'm willing to listen to you and
you say you had good at bats, you put the
ball in play, good at bats, We just didn't do
the whole game. Hey you got the bases loaded in
strike three taken, or hey you've got a runner on
second and third and the guy swings through one and
missus or pops it up in the infield and one
of those things.

Speaker 8 (01:55:27):
It's not a good at bat. No, it's it's absolutely not.

Speaker 7 (01:55:30):
And as Steve mentioned, he wants to see more extended
bats like what you got from Pratt is push it
to three too, pushing foul off three of them, and
then it's a nine pitch, ten pitch at bat. And
now it's a different thing because you've basically used up
an inning with somebody.

Speaker 6 (01:55:43):
Taylor Tremal gives you those yep, sure, let's check back
in with Gary. Gary, you there, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:55:49):
Yeah, can you hear me?

Speaker 8 (01:55:49):
Okay, loud and clear?

Speaker 15 (01:55:52):
Okay, Hey, I'm glad that you brought that last thing
up about not being afraid to criticize the manager. I could, man,
I am so frustrated at points with this manager. You know,
of course naturally wins, bring smiles and loss his brains.

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
Anger. So I'm on the anger side today.

Speaker 15 (01:56:11):
At least two times this weekend and a couple of
times in the past recently. You get the best hitter
up there that can handle the bat better than anybody
on the team. You got a man on first, a
man on second, no ouse, and he has al two
a swinging away and both times he hits into a
double play. As a manager, this got so much of

(01:56:33):
a big ego he doesn't want to win by small
ball or what. It just irritated me so much that
he did that. So that cost him at least one
game over the weekend and and possibly two. I don't know,
but I just thought that I don't know, not many
people talk about the bunning dude, but I like the
small ball, So I just thought maybe y'all might be

(01:56:55):
able to comment on that for me.

Speaker 7 (01:56:57):
Let's discuss this when come back. This is where just
scened in, really it, so we'll let it rip when
we come back.

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Speaker 2 (02:00:05):
Old Berry. Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 1 (02:00:09):
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Speaker 3 (02:00:12):
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Speaker 1 (02:00:15):
Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Seawan Salisbury Show, the
one a Carlos career home run.

Speaker 8 (02:00:26):
That's nice.

Speaker 6 (02:00:27):
But the Mariners beat the Rangers, so that means now
they're only two and a half games back of you
in the AO West. And when all the Rangers, even
with losing three out of four over the weekend, they're
only four and a half games back of you. So,
like I said last night on Twitter, getting swept has
its consequences. Sebon one three two one two five seven
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Speaker 8 (02:00:47):
Let's bring in John and Nadville. John, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (02:00:52):
What's happening? Guys?

Speaker 16 (02:00:53):
Hey, real quick, I want you to look something up
for me.

Speaker 2 (02:00:56):
Dan.

Speaker 10 (02:00:56):
While I get I'm gonna play Devil's Advocate this morning.
Look up Carlos Correa stat what he did Friday for me?

Speaker 8 (02:01:04):
And let me know say that again.

Speaker 16 (02:01:07):
What did Correa do Friday? What was his stats Friday?

Speaker 8 (02:01:11):
He went over?

Speaker 7 (02:01:13):
Okay, but I can tell you this and watching it
he hit the ball hard. I don't tell you that now.
He hit the ball hard.

Speaker 2 (02:01:20):
There we go. He had a great day at the play.

Speaker 10 (02:01:22):
That's what quick, people, I swear to god, I ain't
never seen more Friday this weekend.

Speaker 16 (02:01:28):
I've never seen so many Korea.

Speaker 10 (02:01:30):
Jerseys out in the and just in the general vicinities
from everywhere I was Saturday and yesterday. So on the
TV Saturday, Oh, Carlos Para up to bat today. He
had a great game yesterday, good good, good at bats.
But he was over there we go. Here we go

(02:01:50):
over yep. Okay, So let's go small ball, dude. This
twenty twenty five. Man, This ain't the seventies or the
eighties or the early nineties. They don't believe in a
small ball no more. I agreed, move the base runners
over number two. Pull your head out of your asses
when you're on bases. And now two Bay is notorious

(02:02:13):
for it. Sanchez Friday. I mean, was it when the
two or three base run? It was Sanchez a two.

Speaker 8 (02:02:20):
Bay three base running gaps?

Speaker 9 (02:02:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (02:02:24):
Yeah, I mean because the camp Smith won. It did
look like that ball was going to get down. So
I'll somewhat give that to him. But still you don't
want to get double all done that, But I mean
it could be worse. You could be Jazz Chisholm. We
saw that one.

Speaker 10 (02:02:36):
I'm telling you this, man, two Bay, pull your head
out of your ass.

Speaker 2 (02:02:40):
Dude, Jesus man.

Speaker 10 (02:02:43):
I just I don't get it. I didn't the ball.
You didn't see the ball go past the catcher? Oh
he thought maybe the commentary, Oh maybe he thought the
ball got past the catcher. Did you see the catcher
jump up, turn around and haul ass to the ball. No,
And he gunned his little butter. Then now I got
something for that. Now there's all hollering for a Spotti's job.

(02:03:07):
When we swept the Dodgers. Everybody was hollering for him
to be Manager of the Year.

Speaker 16 (02:03:13):
Now they look.

Speaker 10 (02:03:13):
I ain't know a spoted fan either, but you gotta
give the man as props.

Speaker 2 (02:03:18):
Dude.

Speaker 7 (02:03:19):
He did yeah, doing what he's done, doing what.

Speaker 10 (02:03:24):
He's doing now, And I get we're all fans, but
let's look at it this way too. Now, the fans
of let's get let's get rid of DS. Let's get
rid of DS. DS ain't doing that. DS ain't doing that.
Last year was the last year, year before, year before
y'all want.

Speaker 16 (02:03:44):
Y'all want to beat twenty three.

Speaker 10 (02:03:46):
You wanted DS there twenty four to seven because malon.

Speaker 16 (02:03:50):
Alda wasn't doing well. Now y'all turning on DS.

Speaker 10 (02:03:55):
Make up your minds Houston, please take what you got.
Be glad you're not We're not the Age or the Angels.
I mean yeah, going to Boston, we should not have
been swept.

Speaker 2 (02:04:09):
I get it, I really do. Man.

Speaker 10 (02:04:11):
It's frustrating. I didn't even bother putting the game on yesterday.
Didn't want to sit well then again, but then again
I couldn't because it wasn't on TV.

Speaker 2 (02:04:20):
But I mean, dude, it was just a bad road
trip of man.

Speaker 16 (02:04:25):
This this locker room. They need to pull.

Speaker 10 (02:04:28):
They need to put their big pants on, big bought
pants on, strap it up, and they need to start
taking care of business against these teams that they're supposed
to and even that they're not supposed to, and which
isn't many out there.

Speaker 2 (02:04:41):
Guys.

Speaker 8 (02:04:43):
Well, I mean my rant for the week.

Speaker 1 (02:04:45):
There you go.

Speaker 8 (02:04:46):
I appreciate it, John, I mean.

Speaker 10 (02:04:48):
I get the small ball deal man, but it just
it's not part of twenty twenty five anymore.

Speaker 16 (02:04:53):
It's not just like the analytics. Uh, you know, the
analytics are stupid, but that's what they do.

Speaker 2 (02:05:00):
Now.

Speaker 16 (02:05:01):
You know, you have a great week, guys.

Speaker 1 (02:05:03):
You'll be saying your brothers.

Speaker 6 (02:05:04):
I appreciate John. I mean the the bunting thing.

Speaker 7 (02:05:08):
That's yeah, go ahead and answer Gary. You're disdained for bunting.
But is there a time and a place for it?

Speaker 1 (02:05:14):
Dan?

Speaker 6 (02:05:15):
How many times this year have we seen the astros
try to lay down a bunt and how well is
it gone?

Speaker 8 (02:05:20):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (02:05:21):
The fact that very few teams are any good at
it borderline embarrassment. There's no doubt, very few good because
they don't practice it. It's not only to John's point,
it's just it's not even part. You'll see teams and
when it's pulled off, it looks beautiful because it's like, oh,
you moved a runner from second to third by bunting

(02:05:41):
to the first space side and then guess what now
a sack fly gets them home. It can be smart. Listen,
there's certain times when it's like I roll my eyes
on the bunt thing. But there are times when in
a close game that you need to put the well.
You know when you see it a lot of times too,
runners on second trying to move the over to get
him to third and extra innings, right, But there's a

(02:06:03):
time and a place. I I've never been a big
bunt guy, but I also know that I do think
small ball has its in time. Dany if Dana Brown
didn't mention bunding, but I've asked him about if you
had your choice, would you rather be a big bopper team?
You want to slug the ball, But on a daily
basis what wins more? When he said small ball, it's
being able to move runners over and move them in

(02:06:24):
with basis. Yes, there are times with this team with
runners in scoring position, you give them six outs and
they're not going to do it so your.

Speaker 8 (02:06:31):
Own weakness and.

Speaker 6 (02:06:34):
One outs for you to have two outs to work
with with a team that has not been good at
manufacturing runs. I just don't understand the thought process behind
doing that.

Speaker 7 (02:06:42):
This was soever it's been going on for now. It
wasn't as similar last year at times with runners in
scoring position. I mean, sit the weakness at the end
of the year. I mean these years seemed to run
together at times, but it was and it's something's going
to have to get fixed. And what it does, it's
the collateral damage too. That run didn't go in. You
leave the starting you pulled the starting pitcher, your bullpins
in there after five and two thirds, boom boom boom,

(02:07:05):
before you know it, three days in a row because
you have been a it's a close game, so you
don't want to or if you even if you're down
five to three or five to two and not moving.

Speaker 8 (02:07:13):
It's not even just moving them over small ble.

Speaker 7 (02:07:15):
It is just getting them across the plate, moving them
over in position, and then getting that. It's not a
matter of when the of getting hits. It's a matter
of when those hits come. And that's going to be
a big part of the second half. Because their strength
is not pumping out seven eight runs a night.

Speaker 6 (02:07:27):
You have to be able to put the ball in play,
which at times that has been an issue. You have
to be able to move the runner over which at
times again the same deal. So if I can't do
those two things, and I don't work on bunting, and
the few times that I have tried to do it
it has not gone well, why the hell would I
go and try to do it?

Speaker 1 (02:07:46):
Dann?

Speaker 7 (02:07:46):
One thing, and you know this and covering football a
long time, and haven't you know played it and covered
it and talked to these coaches. It's very rare that
we will run something on game day that we didn't
practice yet. We put it in our library during training camp, right,
you put it in, you ran it, Say okay, we'll
have that in available for us to pull out of
the card catalog in week four. Most people listening are

(02:08:07):
like the yog folks are like, what the hell is
a card catalog?

Speaker 1 (02:08:10):
You give?

Speaker 7 (02:08:10):
My point is with that that that you don't work
on it, And it's the same it applies to Bunny.
Why would I Now if we go in at halftime
and say, hey, guys, remember in training camp we put
this in and they keep showing this coverage. We can
hit them with this. Oh yeah, we're familiar, we've talked
about it. Draw it up, let's go do it. But
it's rare that you're on the sidelines, and we're adjusted
on sidelines all the time. Then all of a sudden
you're putting new plays in on the sideline. That's a

(02:08:31):
halftime or next week thing, or going into the week.
It's the same thing here. It's really hard. And I
do get Gary and John small ball. I don't like
when people say, want to bunt. Nobody's butting six times
a game. That ship sailed, okay, just like going eight
innings on a regular base for starter complete games. That
ship sailed, specializations everything. But there is a time when
you would you wish there was a little more dedication

(02:08:54):
to at least having the ability to do it, because
right now asking somebody to do it, they look like
somebody that it's a foreign life.

Speaker 6 (02:09:00):
You want to beat the first time learning the alphabet.
You want to beat this team right now, It's very simple.
Pitch them on the outside and with this right handed
heavy lineup, throw sliders, throw sweepers. You're winning the ball game.

Speaker 7 (02:09:11):
Yeah, and hell, you can even back to them if
you're on the opposite hand, opposite side, you know, the
arm side to do it. It's that's been a struggle,
but the biggest struggle for them. If my wishless, I
asked Steve Sparks, and who's getting your do on back,
mine would be clutch hitting with player with runners in
scoring position. On I'm talking about on the consistent. Of
course I want to get healthy, and Steve's right, but

(02:09:32):
if I can get clutch hitting with runners in scoring
position on a daily base in the postseason, you're facing
good pitching. You're not racking up fourteen to fifteen hits
a game in postseason. The pitchers are too good. If
you get one, that's the aberration. That's not the norm.
So you got to get yourself in position.

Speaker 2 (02:09:47):
Now.

Speaker 7 (02:09:47):
I don't know what the answer is, but small ball works.
But even like you said, it didn't have to be
a but it's the ability to push the ball to
the right side, or a base hit or lift a
fly ball with a guy the third and get them home. Yes, right,
that's the things you're looking for. Yeah, well, in the
walk off that on the walk off, was it? Friday
was a walk off for the Socks. Yeah, right, What
happened to get the run at the third base?

Speaker 6 (02:10:07):
Boom lifted somehow thinking he's going to get that out
at third, and which was getting that out.

Speaker 7 (02:10:13):
At a bad decision? Yes, right, a poor decision. Then
you lift a deep flat wall that goes over the
head and walk off. It wasn't it the young kid
who hit it, right? I mean he's a great prospect,
that's right. So they did that. They did what you're
begging for the Red Sox or for the Astros to
do regularly. They executed it to perfection, and then they
got the clutch hit when it.

Speaker 6 (02:10:33):
Matters, or then you know, you put a ball in
play right to the short stop and somehow you've got
the contact play on and you're trying to run home
and then you get gunned down at home. And it
was just Tom and Minsky was not happy with this
team this weekend. And it was not Baseball World's back
to back to back to back national champions And at.

Speaker 7 (02:10:49):
Times, sometimes what happens you get in a point, what
happens when you're when you're stressed or dan when some
players are in a it's not urgent, it's a where
you're like desperate trying to get some pressing, and what
happens skewed sometimes make poor decisions, right, and you saw
the inability to slow it down a little bit. It
wasn't necessarily an execution obviously comes a good execution comes

(02:11:12):
from smart decisions and working at it. Bad execution comes
from they all know how to hit, they don't know.

Speaker 8 (02:11:18):
How to field.

Speaker 7 (02:11:18):
But when you get overloaded and there's a there's a
lot going on, desperation causes some bad decisions. And over
the weekend they made some poor decisions, which is this
is a smart baseball club that they'll overcome this. But
the only thing we got to talk about right now
is the three games we saw wasn't good.

Speaker 6 (02:11:35):
I'll give Joe a spot act credit for that. He
did say that after yestery game. Okay, he did say
we did not play the brand of baseball that we've
been playing and that we're capable of playing.

Speaker 7 (02:11:43):
Amen, Amen, And that brand of baseball covers up base running, fielding,
getting people out, making sure you get through it anything,
moving runners, over driving situation. See, to me, that's the
top one. That's what I'm talking about. Getting the clutch
hit at the right time is more important to me
than loading up fifteen. It's like hitting the solo home
run when you're down nine to one in the eighth inning,

(02:12:03):
even if it doesn't do any good, even as simple.

Speaker 6 (02:12:05):
You got a runner on second base, hit won on
the right side. Guess where they're going. They're going over
to third. Now, now you're just going out for the
bunchers out there.

Speaker 8 (02:12:13):
That's just as good.

Speaker 6 (02:12:15):
And it gave me a chance by swinging the bat
that I might have a chance to have two runs
score on that, not just one.

Speaker 7 (02:12:21):
No problem with that, especially you got somebody's a contact
that can put the ball in play. Yes, right, so
there's a lot and everybody's argument's legit. But it's hard
for me to execute something I didn't work on, and
it doesn't look to me like that's a priority for
any team in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 6 (02:12:35):
I'm gonna go with what I trust, and I trust
the guys to be able to swing the bats much
more than do the other thing, more often than not,
in seven ways on Sunday, All right, Donald Brandon, see
you guys right there. We'll bring you guys in. Do
you want to get to the Jordan Alvarez here as
the show goes along. So we'll continue here on the
Sean Salisbury Show on a Monday Sports Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:13:02):
Now back to Sean Salisbury, continue it.

Speaker 6 (02:13:06):
Let's bring in our good buddy, Brandon. Brandon, good morning.
He's literally playing his game.

Speaker 8 (02:13:16):
I'm sorry, that's all.

Speaker 1 (02:13:18):
Right, Brandon. Are you at least winning.

Speaker 12 (02:13:22):
Now yet?

Speaker 3 (02:13:22):
I'm that's about.

Speaker 7 (02:13:25):
I want to turn that sound down there, buddy. I
was gonna say, take a sound to your game down.

Speaker 6 (02:13:31):
We'll listen to Matt vast Kursion and whoever that is
a little bit later.

Speaker 8 (02:13:34):
I'm assuming that's who it is.

Speaker 4 (02:13:36):
Oh, it's.

Speaker 13 (02:13:38):
The guys from the MLB network.

Speaker 8 (02:13:41):
Okay, cool, what do you got on these astros?

Speaker 13 (02:13:44):
I don't want to get swapped again.

Speaker 6 (02:13:46):
I don't want to either, Brandon, and I'm really getting
tired of getting swept three on the last seven series.

Speaker 8 (02:13:51):
Brandon, I don't need this anyway.

Speaker 12 (02:13:57):
Quiet ahead of home one.

Speaker 8 (02:13:59):
That's cool.

Speaker 6 (02:14:00):
Yeah, he did do that, So that was That was
a bright spot from the weekend, But everything else was
not so great.

Speaker 2 (02:14:07):
Brandon.

Speaker 6 (02:14:07):
Your video game was a lot better than what we
saw in the last three games.

Speaker 1 (02:14:15):
Pitchclock violation, Brandon.

Speaker 3 (02:14:19):
I did that.

Speaker 8 (02:14:22):
Man, it's like a production in this game. What are
we doing here?

Speaker 13 (02:14:29):
Violations? Well without us?

Speaker 1 (02:14:31):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (02:14:33):
I mean, nothing's really wrong with him. He just had
a bad ending yesterday. Appreciated Brandon. We'll let you get
back to your game. Nothing's really wrong with them.

Speaker 7 (02:14:41):
He's been he listened for the last like ten starts.
He's been as good as anybody at baseball.

Speaker 8 (02:14:46):
Dude. He just strong.

Speaker 7 (02:14:47):
He had had a tough outing and was really one
one inning and he came back out and they didn't
score afterwards that they got all six in that one inning,
right they did?

Speaker 6 (02:14:56):
You ever noticed too with with Fromber, there's two things
that can really derail an inning. Is there's a capper
that goes up the third base line and the guy
gets on base. And then another one is a pitch
that could have been there and was called a ball
and you're just.

Speaker 1 (02:15:11):
Like, oh, you can see his reaction.

Speaker 8 (02:15:12):
No, yeah, like it's it's when you see that from him,
you're just like, oh.

Speaker 6 (02:15:16):
Here we go. Yeah, it's a little nerve wracking. And
yesterday had that like it was just like one after another.
Then the ball gets past him on the mound on
the bunch and.

Speaker 7 (02:15:25):
It's just like God, I would cause shit folks to wonder, well,
what's all Fromber?

Speaker 6 (02:15:30):
Nothing? He had a rough goal of it in that inning. Sorry,
this microphone thing just it's not one to play ball, No,
it sure isn't. But he had a rough one. But
he's been Your microphone stand needs to be like Brandon's game.
You know the production value, well, you.

Speaker 7 (02:15:46):
Do when you set it up and do it all
a s so especially when you stand up and I
like to stand up a lot of times, it just
kind of starts to fizzle down and go away like
it's like it's water rolling downhill.

Speaker 8 (02:15:55):
But it's my microphone.

Speaker 7 (02:15:57):
Yeah, I'm not worried about Fromber's success, had a rough
listen after as good as he's been, it's been impressive.
You're gonna go through those unfortunate happened at a time
when you'd been beat up in the first two, so
it's heightened and we're a little hyper sensitive to it.
But you know, he still gave you grinding through some innings,
and the fact of the matters you scored one run

(02:16:18):
and you scored five in a three game series on
the road. You're not gonna win many games, especially against
the team that has the same aspirations you do, and
and it's pretty good. And they've got some young, youthful
energy going around and they just listen, they beat him
at every step of the way this weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:16:32):
They just did happens.

Speaker 6 (02:16:34):
They just they pretty much put it on them, and
it happens.

Speaker 1 (02:16:37):
Everybody goes through it.

Speaker 7 (02:16:38):
I'm anxious now after this, Dan, how do they respond
against the team they should hammer who's actually playing hot
baseball right now?

Speaker 8 (02:16:45):
Can't let these games?

Speaker 7 (02:16:46):
This is your par five, even though they're playing well,
the astro should handle their business here. And these are
the ones like, oh, please handle your business here.

Speaker 6 (02:16:55):
You got to remind yourself and you got to remind
everybody else you're still those guys, because right now there
is that doubt.

Speaker 7 (02:17:00):
And who they got after this one. They've got the Yankees.
That's right, That's exactly right. So they that's right, they
head back up to the North.

Speaker 8 (02:17:05):
We get some momentum, then go up there and take
care of business against them. That would be nice.

Speaker 6 (02:17:08):
And they've got a lot of people who are already
yelling at the managers saying fire him. I mean, you
got Derek Jeter on Saturday on the on the broadcast
when it's you know, water log there at Bristol Motor
Speedway and he's saying this team doesn't have it, and
you know it's your captain saying that, right.

Speaker 7 (02:17:24):
And what's interesting is don't we hear this every year
about Aaron Bone. I mean every year it comes back
that it's it's, uh, yeah, gotta fire Aaronbone.

Speaker 8 (02:17:34):
Slow your roll. I mean that may happen, but it's.

Speaker 7 (02:17:37):
Around this time they go through a couple of series
like got a fire armbone and somehow he laughs through it.
So they're gonna have to get themselves right because the Yankees.
The Yankees, they they they had some movement at the
trade deadline themselves at one point, maybe it was Dibb,
Rob Dibble told me on Friday, and then maybe they
did too much.

Speaker 1 (02:17:58):
You know that you start to we wonder was too much?
Too much?

Speaker 7 (02:18:00):
I don't know what that all means, to the point
where you don't want to disrupt the flow of a
team that you feels pretty good. But they felt like
they had upgrade, you know, in a handful of positions,
and they did obviously there and I asked Dibble, I said,
Who's Who's still the world, he goes, if you're a betman,
probably the Dodgers and the Yankee still. And I think
there's a lot of us that may disagree. But you know,

(02:18:21):
Dibbs is up there in the Northeast and season all
the time. But you got to go take care of you.
But and it's tough because you don't want to get
you don't want to start looking at the Yankees. We
got to get back up there and get them because
we may be seeing them in the postseason. And forget
that you have a three game series against in the
Miami team that you need to beat, so you can
go up there and be in position, because at the
blink of an eye, this whole SERI. I mean, you're
only two and a half in front. This has to

(02:18:42):
be taken care of.

Speaker 6 (02:18:43):
And knowing the Astros luck they'll get right against the Astros,
doesn't It seem to always work out that way a
lot of fun, So hopefully the Astros can avoid that.
But if you want to join up someone three two
on two, five seven nine, you still need you to
get you that jord on topic, we'll talk about that.

Speaker 8 (02:18:58):
Also.

Speaker 6 (02:18:59):
Gion Soda wants to weigh in. This could be interesting. Well,
talk with him and you if you want to get
in again. Semon one three two one two five, seven ninety.
It is a Sean Salisbury show, Sports Talk seven ninety.

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And we've va for the Sean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 6 (02:21:01):
Well, it was the guy that was trying to play
the mob guy in that movie right that he was
being a consultant for the show. And he was like, no,
a wise guy would never say that. See that's the thing. Like,
you know, if you get any of these guys that
were in the life, you know, you ask them and
it's like, no, a wise guy wouldn't do that. It's like,
all right, well you would know. Hey, don't have my
legs broken. Okay, exactly right. But anyway, talking to astros talking,

(02:21:26):
haven't talked a ton of Texans.

Speaker 8 (02:21:27):
Maybe we'll do that. Here's the week goes on.

Speaker 6 (02:21:29):
But seven one three, two, one two five seven ninety
Astros in Miami taking on the Marlins.

Speaker 8 (02:21:34):
They get swept over the weekend by the Red Sox.

Speaker 6 (02:21:36):
And speaking of the Texans, they're at the Greenbrier for
training camp and they're gonna get the Vikings this weekend.
Up in Minnesota. Speaking of Minnesota, John in Minnesota wants
to wait and John, what's going on?

Speaker 17 (02:21:48):
Hey, fellas, this is vagabond John coming calling in from Minnesota.
And I'm curious because Graham Mertz, former Big ten quarterback
Florida guy, is with the Texans coming off in eighth
and I'm looking at going to see him play this
weekend up here at US Bank. But I needed to
know and I can't find it anywhere online. Is he

(02:22:08):
cleared to play from his ACL.

Speaker 6 (02:22:10):
He's been practicing, So yeah, I would assume he's probably
gonna be out there, him and Davis Mills.

Speaker 8 (02:22:14):
You're not going to see CJ.

Speaker 7 (02:22:15):
Yeah, you'll you'll probably get You'll probably get more of
him than well, you're gonna get more him c J.
Stroud shoudn't even being uniform. You'll see a lot of
Graham buns. Yeah, so I would think.

Speaker 17 (02:22:24):
So awesome as a Wisconsin Badger fan here myself. Obviously
Graham Mert started there then went to Florida. But eleven dollars,
I'm gonna say Graham Mertz is worth the eleven dollars admission.

Speaker 1 (02:22:37):
So looking forward to it.

Speaker 8 (02:22:38):
Thanks fellas Man, appreciate Thanks John.

Speaker 7 (02:22:40):
That's a grant. You may not get many of those
this year. And then go from my neck of the
woods where it played Minnesota. He doesn't really have to
sell it either. We knew exactly where he was from
with that act. Oh, there's no question about Wisconsin. Guy
loves his Vikings loves Graham Mertz, who was at Wisconsin
before he transferred to Florida. Now we got him here,
and you know what he's He's going to get a

(02:23:00):
loaded for eleven bucks.

Speaker 1 (02:23:01):
He loves him.

Speaker 7 (02:23:02):
But I would doubt at any point in time this
year we're going to get a Graham Mertz. Can't wait
to watch him worth the price of admission call. Not
that he's not hey, but I don't think you're going
to get the tar. You don't really get that from
the third quarterback right coming off an injury. He was
a solid player. But yeah, that might be the only
one put that in the archives because you'll rarely get

(02:23:24):
a Graham Wortz gram Warts. Graam Mertz is worth and
he was in college. I'm just talking about that preseason
call of being worth the price of admission at an
eleven bucks.

Speaker 1 (02:23:34):
He probably is.

Speaker 6 (02:23:35):
To see You think that anything goes Friday on The
Matt Thomas Show with Ross has anything.

Speaker 8 (02:23:41):
We just proved that it can be done. So first off,
I wanted to where do you get the eleven dollar ticket?

Speaker 6 (02:23:50):
That's I mean, that's one thing I'd like to find.
You find out where he's shopping for his seats right,
eleven dollars ticket with somebody scalp it low. I mean, well,
I'll tell you what went in doubt. Graham Mertz, dagabond,
John from up there in Minnesota. It's like, you know, Sully,
where are you from? I'm from Wisdom, mass Oh that's surprising.

(02:24:11):
I would have never guessed. Yeah, I had no idea.
You do you go to Family Park, Anthony? Anthony, where
are you from? I'm from Westchester County.

Speaker 2 (02:24:18):
Oh.

Speaker 8 (02:24:19):
Okay, there's a shocker. Never knew that. So John's a
great thing.

Speaker 1 (02:24:22):
You know what.

Speaker 6 (02:24:22):
Good on Graham Mertz. He's got a guy can't wait
to watch him play on in person, Diehard Badger fans
got them for him.

Speaker 8 (02:24:30):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (02:24:31):
Uh, you're not Alvaie. You know we've he's pretty good.

Speaker 8 (02:24:34):
He is very good.

Speaker 11 (02:24:35):
You know.

Speaker 6 (02:24:35):
I was gonna say we'd like to see him even more.
But I was reading yesterday that I don't believe that.
Dana and Robert talked about it yesterday. The cutlist I
saw did not have anything on him. But I think
Joe mentioned that still out in Florida and now taking
swings off of coaches batting practice at this point.

Speaker 8 (02:24:54):
Okay, so let's do the math. Go ahead, you go
ahead and ask.

Speaker 6 (02:24:58):
So that that is where I was about to start
mathing here, because for me, if we're going to meet
that middle of August, live pitching needs to happen by
the end of the week, and it just does not
seem like, well, he's going to be the.

Speaker 8 (02:25:12):
Case today, is what the fourth that's correct.

Speaker 7 (02:25:15):
Middle of August is a week from now back basically
at the end of the red Sox area.

Speaker 8 (02:25:19):
So late mid to late August is now what it's
sounding like. Okay, So with that, now that's it. If
this just.

Speaker 6 (02:25:25):
Continues the way that it is, because God forbid, we
get a uh oh, the hand is sore again if
that happens again.

Speaker 8 (02:25:32):
Done and want to be I want to.

Speaker 7 (02:25:34):
Be a little longer. If in fact, he goes from
Florida to Sugarland. I mean, at this point, it goes
from Florida to here. It's one thing at this point
in Florida to sugar Land. So if he's in Florida,
thet's say another week. Yeah, so you'd probably haven't been
sugar Land three days at the very least. Okay, So
that now takes you to the eighteenth. So begin by September.

(02:25:57):
I'm hoping if there's no setback by next Monday, doubtful.

Speaker 8 (02:26:02):
Does that make sense now? And from me?

Speaker 7 (02:26:05):
And I'm not a doctor, but I just don't see
how between you if he's just coach pitch, that sound
like I'm talking little league. You get my point, right,
And and we haven't seen that and don't really know,
and we haven't really got a firm foundation on is.
And I don't think Dana knows yet where or if
they do, they're not sharing it. Where did we know
he's going? Remember they've talked about it. We want to

(02:26:25):
get him up and going here as quickly as possible.
So what does that means? I mean, it's a week stop,
one game stop. If you see what you see in
one game he's back here. I don't know, but it's
just on the sheer timeframe of it, it feels like
it's a reach to get him here by next week.

Speaker 8 (02:26:42):
It feels like that.

Speaker 7 (02:26:43):
So if we have him here by September, be grateful,
that's all that would be happy. And that's September may
mean the third week for whatever it is, but the
fifteenth is the middle of middle to late next week.
That's that's going to be some climbing to do. If
he's waiting for live pitching and then going to go
on a rehab assignment as opposed to just being in Florida.

Speaker 6 (02:27:05):
You're now three months since he last saw a live
pitch in a Major League baseball game.

Speaker 1 (02:27:09):
Three months.

Speaker 6 (02:27:10):
So if you think that that's going to be just
as simple as a few throws behind an l screen
and then maybe you put him on one of those
backfields there at Florida and then say, all right, he's good.

Speaker 8 (02:27:20):
He's gonna be the yord on that he's been. That's
not happening.

Speaker 7 (02:27:22):
Well, let me ask you this, Dan, we'll go to break,
we'll come back and finish up with this. But if
you have waited three months and it takes an extra
week to get him exactly where you want him, wouldn't
you wait one hundred percent even.

Speaker 1 (02:27:35):
Though you come up.

Speaker 7 (02:27:35):
So I know we all want him back, but I
think that you've come this far, you're gonna make sure
fit and sound and ready to go before he's back here,
I would imagine.

Speaker 6 (02:27:44):
And with some minor league rehab in there too, is
something that absolutely I'd want. But we can continue this
discussion seven one three two one two five seven ninety
against seven one three two one two five seven ninety one.
Pitching note that I noticed over the weekend that I
definitely wanted to get to, so we will do that.
It is the Shawn Salisbury Show here on a Monday.

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Speaker 6 (02:29:57):
We get to the Matt Thomas Show with Ross and
and I mean, I just I understand what Dana said
last week about seventy five percent of yord on is
better than some of the guys who at the time
you were playing. But I mean it's also too at
a certain point of can you even expect seventy five
percent when you've been out three months?

Speaker 8 (02:30:18):
Because I don't think you can, no.

Speaker 6 (02:30:20):
Matter how good he is, and no matter how much
pitching he's seen, and maybe a side session here or
there off a live pitcher, that still doesn't replicate game action,
still doesn't replicate how these teams are going to throw
to them any of those things, and playing him in
the field is not even a question. You're not doing that.
So any of those things. Can you necessarily count on

(02:30:41):
him being able to ramp up and be the guy
that we believe that he should be. I feel like
you're gonna have some growing pains if you do.

Speaker 8 (02:30:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:30:48):
I don't know if we're going to get one hundred
percent yord On coming out, but I hopefully it won't
be long. I hope he's one hundred percent healthy. Now,
production or health, what do we talk? I'll say you
it's seventy five percent. I'm not running him out there
health wise. I've seen the movie. I don't need it
at one hundred percent. Yeah, close as you can get
one hundred percent without re injuring the thing. I guess,

(02:31:10):
But I damn well, after this time, Fresh League, buy
better get more than seventy five percent of your on
Alvarez a couple of games into it, Do I expect
him to come out and go four to four?

Speaker 1 (02:31:21):
Probably not?

Speaker 7 (02:31:21):
Now you say, well, look with Krag hit the ball
hard or somebody pain. You came back and bam, bam,
bam was smoking the baseball. But ninety days, ninety days,
that's a long time. So no, I'm with you. Presence matters.
Having him there will matter, just on the lineup and
the stress it puts on pitching staffs or leaven game
planning for him if he's in the lineup, and when
you're going to pitch to him, and how often you're

(02:31:43):
going to pitch to him, or if you're going to
pitch him, as Steve Sparks had mentioned earlier today. But
you damn right, I'm expecting after all this time, I
better get a live bat. I can't wait two weeks
for him. Well, he's three for thirty five. I mean
we got to hit the ground running here with him.
Seventy five percent health, no, seventy five percent production you're

(02:32:03):
damn right.

Speaker 8 (02:32:04):
I expect it right off the bat.

Speaker 7 (02:32:05):
And if his seventy five percent production is better than
most of one hundred, yeah, but it's seventy five percent
health I can't run him out there, I got you
gotta be a lot healthier than seventy five percent. So
the production will pick up as it goes, I imagine,
because I would imagine he's pretty hungry and anxious himself
after all this.

Speaker 6 (02:32:21):
And I mean with a middle of the order that
has struggled the way that it has for the better
part of the season, you throw in a guy that
has not seen a ton of live pitching in three
months and expect that that's going to make things better.

Speaker 7 (02:32:34):
I have my doubts. I have serious doubts, oh, as
you should. But I would expect that it will at
some point. You got to start from square one, right,
And this when he gets back. When I say square one,
square one for a guy who's been out that long,
I would.

Speaker 8 (02:32:47):
Imagine off season for as long as he's been out.

Speaker 7 (02:32:50):
Right since I And the thing about it is the
one thing that we do know about him, he's built
a bit different when it comes to his ability to
hit to baseball. So I'm assuming that, well, we're not
expecting to be the MVP of the second half, but
it'd be nice. So yeah, I would expect that we're
going to get something at when he comes back that
I think our expectations are. It ain't gonna be about

(02:33:12):
fresh legs. He's got those, So timing and getting it,
you know, getting rolling and seeing the baseball from live
pitching and how they're going to pitch him. Yeah, it
may take him in it, but damn, just to have
him out there at least gets you excited to know.

Speaker 8 (02:33:26):
And we'll haulpat.

Speaker 7 (02:33:26):
You know, we'll say, Okay, he's just getting working his
way back in, but you're sure as hell don't want
a month of working your way back in because by
that time, who the hell knows what the other two
teams in the division are doing.

Speaker 8 (02:33:36):
By the way, did you watch Sunday Night Baseball last night?

Speaker 1 (02:33:40):
No? I did not.

Speaker 6 (02:33:41):
It was Detroit and Philadelphia. Did not want to pitch
for Detroit, Chuck, I know Charlie was scheduled this weekend.
Was it was it yesterday?

Speaker 8 (02:33:48):
It was Chas Morton.

Speaker 6 (02:33:49):
Yeah, he got out, got out on the mound and
went six innings at one time, I think had retired
twelve straight. Are you surprised, I'm not at all. It's Detroit,
it's Butty comfortable with him. Shit, I mean it's Charlie Moore.

Speaker 8 (02:34:02):
Gets back to what I was talking about. Yes, I
would have. They didn't get him.

Speaker 6 (02:34:08):
They no disrespect to Colton Gordon, but I'd much rather
have Charlie Morton starting on Saturday than Colton Gordon.

Speaker 8 (02:34:14):
Well, unfortunately, you're not gonna get one and you're getting
the other.

Speaker 6 (02:34:17):
Well for now, yeah, and we're we're gonna get spencerra
Getti back in this series.

Speaker 8 (02:34:21):
That's gonna be nice.

Speaker 6 (02:34:21):
But even with these guys coming back, how much can
you necessarily count on those guys?

Speaker 8 (02:34:26):
And I mean, and I.

Speaker 1 (02:34:27):
Understanding to pitch count them.

Speaker 6 (02:34:29):
Oh, sure you are, but I mean you you swung
and missed for for Dylancy's That's fine, I get that.
I just I'm really concerned with all of the moves
that you made, which were fine and good, But you
didn't even have to get the front of the rotation guy.
You could have gotten a guy like him that wouldn't
have cost you very much to have the back end
of your rotation that you know is going to be

(02:34:51):
somebody that you could count on.

Speaker 7 (02:34:52):
Yeah, there there's that position needs to get healthy quickly, Dan,
it's been too long. I mean errog that that position
needs to come back. Where you have the word. The
question isn't who's starting. The question is who's going to
the bullpen? I mean the guy starting tonight. Look again,
no disrespect, Appreciate what you've done. You've done some good things.
You're not Charlie Morton, Jason Alexander so on the road

(02:35:16):
a hot team. You're gonna need something at him tonight.
There's one, no question and it. And don't you think
that the pressure for him, he's feeling a little more
of it after getting swept on the road. Of course
he is tonight. It's going to be an interesting watch.
I honestly I believe that. So maybe the bats will
put it take take some pressure off him early and
you jump out in front of this thing so he

(02:35:37):
can settle.

Speaker 6 (02:35:38):
In crooked numbers. Yeah, those would be nice to see
you again. You're on on the on the visitor side tonight.
Maybe you know the first couple of runners in scoring
position chances, maybe something happens with those spots. It would
be nice to kind of see that and and get
a little bit of a breather, which I felt like
this team had at the end of the National Series.

(02:35:58):
I said, Okay, good, look, he hadn't been playing well
at home. You're going on the road where you've played
better recently, and it's just been the complete opposite of
what it was early on in the season.

Speaker 7 (02:36:07):
Two and a Half's not a breather, right, No, you
want to extend that and you're going on against the team.
But remember at this day, these are the type of
teams that I don't want to stay scary you, but
that they start to rear their head and they disrupt
playoff pictures because they really have nothing to do, right,
they have nothing. They just to let it rip. Well,
they're trying to paint a picture for themselves, damn right.

(02:36:28):
So Marlin's are very much no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (02:36:31):
Ye.

Speaker 6 (02:36:31):
So well, Ye, I'll be keeping a close eye on
it tonight for sure. He's Sean triple e, Emmanuel Elmore,
Dan Matthews, The Matt Thomas Show with Ross coming up next.
We will talk to you in twenty hours after an
Astros win.

Speaker 8 (02:36:45):
Calling it now, let's do it right here.

Speaker 6 (02:36:46):
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