Rockets Fall Short Losing Game 7 vs Golden State, Astros Can't Finish vs White Sox & Drop Series

Rockets Fall Short Losing Game 7 vs Golden State, Astros Can't Finish vs White Sox & Drop Series

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Shawn Salisbury alongside French down Salisbury dead.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Matthews to the same game, shout down.

Speaker 4 (00:13):
Curry at mid court, got van Blot in front of him.
Deuvile team comes to Draymond's out left side heel wide
open three pointer. I've been in and there's your first
three pointer of the second half and twenty five for
the game for Buddy. Heeled heeled on a hand off
the pajem Ski to Butler. With three and a half
remaining of the Rockets down twelve, Butler right side against

(00:33):
Jalen Green left side, turns white elbow, sixteen foot shot
up in and Jimmy Butler's put the go to the
last four points and maybe enough.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
To seal a Golden State win.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Eighty eight seventy four. Curry across mid court. They have eight.

Speaker 5 (00:49):
They have six steals themselves. Tonight Rockets has turned it
over eleven times.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Curry straight on deep three up in good and the
Golden State Warriors are gonna win this series. Eight point
six seconds left, Spencer will throw a baseball pass to
Trace Jackson Davis at mint. Cordie will hold the basketball.
The Houston Rockets won games five and six. The Warriors
take Game seven and the series. The final score the

(01:18):
Golden State Warriors won oh three your Houston Rockets eighty nine,
and the Warriors advanced to the Western Conference semifinals.

Speaker 6 (01:29):
Her Rockets lose the series in seven games. This season
is over, and with all that we say away we
go here on the Sewn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven
ninety sean.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
That sucked Marvel victory Monday.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
I don't even know if about that.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
They don't do moral victory. Money's do it now? Now,
figured side start to get everybody a little moral this morning?
Feeling moral? No, nobody feels moral, do they? I mean victory?

Speaker 6 (01:58):
You know I went and saw Bill the idol this weekend,
so I mean, would it be Uh it wasn't very
hot in the city, Yeah it was?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah? And was he your idol growing up? Not growing
it was your billy growing up.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
It's the old.

Speaker 6 (02:10):
Properly rated, underrated, you know all of that. I'd say,
I'd say he's properly rated.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, Bill Show. Yeah I heard was off the charts. Yeah,
not moral victory money rough bro fall the way around.
Not sure how you lose that game. We'll get to
Lance mc Colors. And then on Friday night you lost,
I mean to lose two to three. The White Sox
not good. The Rockets they listen, Buddy Healed was you

(02:37):
couldn't defend him. I mean, I've said there, watch say
it is anybody he would have made it from the
locker room. And you can't. You know, you can't be
held to that little amount of points and expect to
be golden State on the road at home in the
parking lot, Healed was off the charts. And the big
difference was they made like fifteen more three pointers and

(02:59):
that was that. That was a huge difference in the game.
They were just better from distance man in the in
game seven.

Speaker 6 (03:05):
So it's just decided. I mean, we're gonna be four
hours of sovereignty talk. How about that? Oh nice, a
good mutter.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
You look, before you saw the rain yesterday Saturday, you
should have gone in their heads to your bet. If
you didn't and googled who's the best mutter of the group,
that's it right, or looked for some insights somewhere, because
it does make a difference. But man, nice finish, good,
good race, and it was That was another good part
of the sports weekend. I always loved seeing those horses.

(03:36):
What a great event that is, huh. But yeah, it
was not good for the Rockets. And you could tell
from the star Buddy hil just came out smoking. And
from the get going. I didn't think we come out
of the series saying, hey, the key to Game seven
was Buddy Heel. But we know he can shoot. He's
always he was good scoring college and he's been able
to score the NBA and he had one of those

(03:57):
nights men and it's not fair to put it on
Jaalen Green, but he was he was not good. I mean,
you know what the truth is that when you look
at five or six of the seven games and you
look and say, it was just he wasn't a dominant
player in the series. No, not nowhere close. He looked
like a bench guy in the series. He I mean

(04:19):
six of the seven games he disappeared. What it is
he did, That's what I'm saying. He was not nowhere
to be found. It's going to be interesting to look.
Is that enough body of work for you decide he's
just not a postseason guy or is it just that
he was overwhelmed or he's not as good as you thought.
He was. I mean, there's a lot of questions would
be asked, but be an interesting offseason, and you know
when the whole Isian is going to get traded in
all the free agency part of the NBA kicks in.

(04:42):
But it was a nice series, nice season. Not enough
for what I'm sure he made Doca and the Rockets want,
but they did a lot. When people say it was
a season of failures, no, of course it wasn't. They
did a lot of good things. Were able to see
some things that they probably didn't expect in a good
way and probably didn't expect some of the things they
saw in this seven game series in the way that
they saw it, in a way that they would have

(05:04):
liked a few things to improve. But there's a lot too.
You saw this team the quantum leaps they made this year,
and if they can do that again in twenty twenty six,
twenty five, twenty twenty six season, then then it's gonna
be a hell of a future for them. But listen,
just came down to a team that's just a little
bit better under pressure, Well at least a team that's

(05:24):
been battle tested. I mean that's same thing. Yeah, Steph
antics right.

Speaker 6 (05:28):
Right, I mean Steph Curry knows this time of the year,
Draymond Green knows this time of the year.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
Jimmy Butler or Steve Kerr.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
I mean, the list goes on and on of guys
on that side that have been through series like this
and firm. I mean, the overwhelming majority of this team,
ninety five percent of it. The only two guys on
that floor for the Rockets that knew anything about this
time of the year were Fred Van Vliet, Dylan Brooks,
and a guy that barely even played, Jeff Green. Everybody
else was completely green to this time.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Of the year. I would one agree it was it
does matter. They make no it, it does matter. And
Van Vliet played for the most part, he was put
it this way, Van Vliet doesn't wait play the way
he shouldn't, you know. And those what five, game five,

(06:18):
game six, the game four, game five, game six, hell regardless, Yeah,
there you go. They wouldn't have got out of there
with those. I mean, he he elevated. You could tell
he's been the postseason. He got a ring on a singer,
and he played like it. I mean, did did the
things a good leader supposed to do. And they just
weren't go to They just didn't shoot well enough and
they were although they weren't abysmal what I think they shot,

(06:41):
but forty percent from the field. They just look at
the long range threes. Just the number of attempts and
makes in game seven. Now you try to find what's
the hitting. They won the rebound game. They you know,
Buddy Healed was It's one of those that listen, Healed
had a had a had a huge night. And then
they're big stars. You know, Draymond had sixteen or so.

(07:02):
Both Steph and Jimmy Butler took care of their business,
not to the point of forty points, but they had
a lot of contribution in Game seven, and Buddy Heald
was the star, and they they I don't want to
say pace himself. I told you over the weekend that
I thought, you know, this team was okay to go
back home, right. I think they thought they were going

(07:23):
to win it. But great job by the Rockets to
be able to extend it to seven and didn't get
back here and couldn't close out. You mentioned the experience.
I believe in basketball it matters hugely, probably probably in
all sports. But since this is the most recent one
the NBA. It did, and it mattered in this this
team just they they know, for the most part, now

(07:46):
against other teams that have had the similar experience, it'll
be tougher to do. But I like the Draymond Green
and I'm sure we'll hear from him about his respect
he gained from this team and they're they're, you know,
pushing this seven game series and it was a hell
of a series. Is that that bit extra bit of
experience does matter? And Golden State was a little better

(08:07):
at it.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
Yeah, I mean, you score thirty nine points in the
first half, you're able to have a little bit of
a better third quarter, but still not enough to really
make you feel like that the fourth quarter they could
make a.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Huge bit of a run though, at least to get
it closer.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
They did.

Speaker 6 (08:21):
I mean, they at least got it, what was it
down to three at one point?

Speaker 5 (08:25):
And then in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
I mean, a guy that had been pretty much quiet
the entire game, well he decided to not be so
quiet in the third quarter and he wears number thirty
for them, and he's Steph Curry.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Twenty two points in the game.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
He turns it on at the right time, made spectacular
plays to the guy. Just they're they're still dangerous. They
can win the whole thing, don't you believe it. I
mean with the teams that are still left, I mean
they're gonna have a hard time dealing with bigs and stuff.
You know, a guy like what Nikola jokicch is. It's
and we know how good Oklahoma City is. They can win.

(08:59):
I don't think they're going to, but you know, now
the next question is is that experience long in the
tooth is see Honestly, as the playoffs go along, does
it go from all experienced in playoff moxie to oh
they're a little long in the tooth against somebody that's
got a little you know, against an Oklahoma City team
or somebody along the way who's maybe got a little

(09:19):
bit more youth. But this team had a lot more
youth and I almost say energy. But they know how
to exert theirs properly. And then Steph Curry at the
right time for them, did what he needed to do.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
I think I think they're going to find out in
the next series.

Speaker 6 (09:34):
Because I'm a big Anthony Edwards believer, I think that
Minnesota can very much handle them in that series. I mean,
I I will pick Minnesota in that series, if you know,
if anybody cares, because at this point, I think most
of us are now in off season mode and we
probably won't be watching much of the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
There's no real need to watch the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (09:56):
But I mean, it's just it's it's the sum of
the fear is what I kind of get back to here, Sean,
is some of the things that we talked about in
the three other games that did not go your way.
Free throws, three pointers. I mean, you mentioned it from
the field. They were okay, forty points.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
They were they were not abysmal, they weren't great, and
they didn't score enough points. Obviously, I think the rule
still holds true that the team that scores the most
points wins one hundred percent of the time. I've heard that,
that's the word it is in sports. So it was, yeah,
it was it was just different. They shot fine, but

(10:40):
in the long range shots. The biggest difference in the
game is the way that not only Buddy healed, but
the way that Golden State dominated them beyond the arc.
You know, the difference in makes and attempts was through
the roof.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
Well, it's also I mean with Buddy Healed in that
first half, it kind of got to a point where
it was, hey, do we maybe want to guard that
guy which soon off? Does somebody want to maybe switch
off and try to at least contest him a little bit?

Speaker 2 (11:04):
What do you have nineteen in the first half? I
think so like that finished thirty three, I had six
to all of a sudden, he knocks down another long range three.
You're like, come on, before they got the half, it's like,
this is a borderline nuts. But when you know he's
having that kind of night, all you got to do
is hope that somewhere along the line he goes cold.
Nobody picks up the tempo where you guys, you know,
meaning this team in Houston gets hot. But they played,

(11:27):
you know, the they work on the defensive end, and
we made them work. The Buddy Hill got hot and
experience paid off, and they just made far more threes
in Game seven than you did. And that was the
difference in the ball game.

Speaker 6 (11:39):
Six of eighteen were the Rockets last night, and I
would venture to say, what three of those in garbage
time when it's over, they're up by twenty like a.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Minute and a half like Golden State make eighteen. I mean,
I think they probably most twenty three.

Speaker 6 (11:54):
Let's see they were they shot almost you're one percent right,
they were eighteen of forty three.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
There you go. They hoisted forty three of them and
they shot what eighteen of them?

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Yeah, made eighteen.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, the number of makes were
the number of attempts for one team and around there
and the number of may and we'll look at the difference.
I mean, that's all.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
You know.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
When you're making eighteen and say fourteen more, do the math,
what's fourteen times three?

Speaker 5 (12:21):
Buddy woh man, you're putting forty two?

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, there you go, am I around there? Yeah, No,
you're right, forty two point difference in the three point
shooting category.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
And you lost by fourteen.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, there you go. You know you don't normally you
don't like well, is it the banging the point we
like to go to the old school stuff. Well, they
that defensive, they get on the floor, turnovers and there
wasn't a great margin difference in the turnovers or free throws,
so the little things and then sometimes it's just they're
better than you're doing one thing and last night playoff.
Obviously playoff experience mattered. They were on the road, so

(12:55):
they kept their cool meeting Golden State, but they just
they they they knocked down shots that that maybe at
times others don't make. And Buddy Heel had a bit
of an out of body experience last night. Although he's
been capable of scoring having nights like that, he's you know,
he's been a shooter since he came into the league
and before he came in the league, when he's in college.

(13:15):
Like I said, so this doesn't surprise me that they
they went on those and what feeds them when they
when they're going good, they are pumping long rangers on
a regular basis, forty three of them and made eighteen.
Big difference in the scoring.

Speaker 6 (13:29):
That's a difference between us, you know, looking back on
a season or getting ready for another series. And well,
unfortunately this morning it's the former, not the latter. But
in terms of what's ahead for this team, and I
know that the term run it back is going to
be thrown out with them, Well how far should you
run this thing? We'll talk about it here as we're

(13:50):
just getting going on the Sean Salisbury Show against someone
three two one two five seven ninety the number to
get in on the phone lines. As again, Yes, we're
just getting start already here on the Sean Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
It is a Sean Salisbury Show, Sports.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
It's an unfortunate Monday edition of the Seawan Salisbury Show.
Unfortunate because the Rockets season. It's over one O three
eighty nine, losers to the Warriors in Game seven Astros
also unfortunate, rain shortened game. They fall five to four
to the White Sox, drop two out of three in
that series. Sovereignty, speaking of the rain, wins the Kentucky

(14:33):
Derby in the rain, they're at Churchill Downs. But we're
talking Rockets here in this opening hour of the show.
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety the
number to get in. Let's go ahead and get it
started this morning with Chris and Katie. Good morning, Chris,
how you doing?

Speaker 2 (14:49):
What's up?

Speaker 7 (14:49):
Guys man?

Speaker 8 (14:51):
Just horrendous. You got the game? Yes last night and uh,
I don't know what the hell the Rockers are doing.
You had the formula. They just went out, they pummeled them.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Game five.

Speaker 8 (15:00):
You went to hard party, you went into Golden State.
You smashed them there in their house in the Backs
against the Wall elimination.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Game, and then what do you do.

Speaker 8 (15:07):
You revert back to the game one. You allow the
Warriors to really control the pace in tempo, you let
them get comfortable, you come out flat, you allow them
to really build a huge lead, and it was just
they had to fight their way up. And the worst
part about it is if you would have told everybody
before the game that Curry would have only had around
twenty and Butler would have had around the same and

(15:28):
I would expect the Rockets to smash him. And to
allow a guy like Buddy You'll lose a good player,
but a kind of a journeyman to really just dominate
them was just pathetic. No reason why. Udoka is one
of the best minds in all of the basketball to
you think he would have made adjustments. The guy was
getting wide open shots. I'm looking at the quarter like,
why is that guy continuing wide open? He's he's torturing

(15:50):
them like he's Curry, and no real adjustments were made,
and to allow them to get off like they did,
it's just to me. You look at the series, guys,
everybody gonna say it was a great year. The regular
season was a great year. You got the two seed,
you won fifty plus games in a tough Western conference.
But to me, you get an f in the playoffs,
you have to win at least a route.

Speaker 9 (16:08):
I know there are the.

Speaker 8 (16:09):
Warriors, but this isn't the Curry, Durant, Klay Thompson Warriors.
They're a solid team, even with Butler, but they're not
a very veheable team. This you should have won the
series in five, and you make the little players to
make the free throws, send Gude missing so many countless bunnies.
It's just you're gonna look at the series and say,
how you choked it away against an inferior team. In
my mind, that's what the Warriors were, and to allow

(16:31):
them to really take over that game, and even there
in the fourth quarter, you have many shots to really
take it to them, and you did it, and to
let them really go off, and then Curry Butler just
really close at home there in the fourth quarter, and
then you're getting like a Warriors chance and Curry's getting MVP.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
Tess.

Speaker 8 (16:46):
Just just frustrating end of the season to me. The
only guys who goes around Aman Thompson is number one
and Sanguine is. Everybody else is if there's somebody available
to upgrade around the roster, I think Stone and Udoka
shouldn't make that move. Because the Rockets, I think one
more move. I think they're up there with Okay see
in terms of owning the West maybe for the foreseeable future.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
So I hope they do that.

Speaker 8 (17:06):
But as far as last night, guys, it's just pathetic.
I think you should have won the series in five games,
and you're gonna look back kicking themselves this whole offseason.
So the talty feeling. Man, this team has tormented you.
You're owing what five the last ten years, and the
players against them so inexcusable. You should have won the series.
But hey, we'll rebug group and hopefully next year would
be a much better year because last night was not it. Man,

(17:29):
Thanks for the time.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
Callis I appreciate the call, Chris.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
I mean I think something that he just touched on
there is something that I knew would be coming this morning.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Sean.

Speaker 6 (17:36):
It's those guys, that's that's that's what the emotions are
of losing this series. I think the fact that you
don't move on that hurts enough. But the fact you're
not moving on because it's those guys for the playoff
history that Chris just laid out for us, That's that's
what's hurting even more because even though and we laid
it out numerous times, this is not the same team

(17:58):
like that up against those teams.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
This is completely different.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
Ninety five percent of the guys were not here the
last times that you played these guys, which was over
five years ago.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
But that's what's feeding into this.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, it feeding into yes, But gosh, thanks, sorry, But
I can tell you this, what what happened in the
past had nothing to do with what happened yesterday. If
it did, then then this team studying the wrong things.
And I don't think it did. I don't know why
it would. When I played, I wasn't responsible for Dick

(18:33):
but Kiss's bears when I played in Minnesota, right, he
wasn't responsible for us beating this. Well, you wn't that
far remove from Rainiski in the package. Yeah, just a
little bit. Yeah, just a tad, just a couple of years.
So point is this should neither. But we reminded him
of it every day. You know that, Hey, this is
the golden state, they've had your number all those things,
but in truth, they haven't had your number because this

(18:54):
isn't the guys they played against. But when you lose,
guess what the first thing we say is up? They
just can't. It's Golden State, right, the bottom line, couldn't
get Golden Pass Golden State because Buddy Hill was knocking
down everything shot. There were other times in this series,
as our previous color mentioned, where you could have put
them away and didn't because you couldn't shoot free throws
or in that game, or couldn't defend in another one,

(19:15):
or couldn't gather yourself in another one, or couldn't make
simple putbacks. Simple stuff that in the in the paint
that they should have dominated this series in there the
heavy advantage rockets in a series. And I do agree.
I'm not so sure how many untouchables there is on
a roster on each team. I can tell you this,
And if you can trade a guy like Joannison, maybe

(19:37):
nobody's untouchable, right, But I can tell you this, if
you were going to build around it, it does start
with Shngoon and probably a men Thompson, it probably does,
and then other that you know, there's pieces you'd like
to keep, there's no doubt. But if you can go
out and get somebody who can change games is a

(19:59):
is a complete dis ruptor in games, to change games,
whether it's a shooter or a guy like a Booker,
or a guy like a you know, like a Gyiannis
whatever I'm talking about, who's a head turner that coming
into a can dominate any game he plays in. Then
you go get him. There's a few guys you probably
don't want to have to move, and there's gonna be
some guys. Of those two, everybody's gonna ask for him

(20:20):
if you're trying to move them in the off seat,
those are two everybody's gonna ask for. So you're in
a precarious situation with that. But there are some things
you can't This can't be the full roster that goes forward.
There's gonna have to be probably a few that are
probably gonna hurt a little bit. If you're gonna go upgrade,
probably gonna hurt a little bit. But you've got to
look into everything, and the two guys at the top

(20:42):
of the list that should be we're building around everything.
We're building around these two and hopefully we won't have
to get rid of either one of them to go
get a bigger stud if possible. They got a lot
of assets and a lot of young players to at
least I don't know if shops the right word, but
dangle if that's the case, But Shane Goon and a
Men Thompson or where this franchise should start as far

(21:05):
as the building blocks foundation, Now there may be more,
but every every team in the NBA that has a
need and you want and you're dealing with Houston, the
first two Cats are going to ask for? Are those
two guys?

Speaker 6 (21:17):
I'm cutting that list in half as far as I'm concerned.
To Men Thompson is the only untouchable player. Yeah, and
I think that guy's got championship DNA. If you ever
win it, he's going to be the reason that you do.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah. I do think Shane Gun's a good player, man.
I know he's got its half line. Yeah, I agree. Now,
if you're saying SHN Goon and you honest, who gives
you more? I get it. One is just a younger body.
I understand that. But if you could find a way,
because I think SHN Guon's got all star ability every
year he's a double double every night right for the
most part, at least he should be. So it's going

(21:52):
to be an interesting offseason the way they go. You
don't just quit and make wholesale changes, but you better
listen to everything because there's there is a little bit
missing from the roster and we're not telling sh gun.
I mean, uh, you know Emai Audoka in the front
office anything they.

Speaker 6 (22:07):
Don't already know well, I mean, and it's gonna be
interesting to hear. I don't know if it's gonna be
today or tomorrow whenever Rafelstone and Emaudoka meet with the media,
but I'm sure that's gonna be asked. Offensive upgrades are
the first and foremost for this team because you can
shoot as many free throws as you want. You can
do all of that on the practice floor. But the
moral of the story is the reason you lost schemes

(22:30):
this year and the reason why you are sitting here
talking right now about the season in the past is
because you were at times inept offensively.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Which there is no way going into this season that's
that's what you would have thought would be the It's
similar to if I said at the end at the
going into last year runners in scoring position will be
a big problem for the Astros. Looking at the lineup,
Peter said, Sean, your nuts and at the end of
the year that was the problem. Same thing here you
go into it. You say whether another year committed to defense,
will they stay committed on the defensive end. It's hard

(23:01):
to do right because you look at they have some scores.
You start to look around, guys can put ball in
the basket at the right time and consistently and under pressure,
and they've it's a weakness, but you wouldn't think it
was that big a weakness. Knowing some of these good
young players who can't score. It became a weakness at
times in the postseason.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
Roger, see you right there. We'll get you involved.

Speaker 6 (23:22):
Also to respect for the Rockets garnered by this one guy,
we'll let you hear from them next and maybe it's
somebody that you wouldn't necessarily expect. We'll talk about that
and let you hear from them right here. It is
a Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
It is a Sean.

Speaker 6 (23:41):
Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven to ninety. The Rockets season
is over. Game seven, Losers one, O three eighty nine
to the Warriors. The Astros dropped two of three to
the White Sox over the weekend, losing four to three.
Yes day rain shortened game Scotti Scheffler, though tying a
PGA Tour record for scoring thirty one under to take

(24:01):
the CJ Cup at the Byron Nelson.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
I was busy throughout the day watching all this stuff.
The Colt Nohost, who's a broadcaster on CBS and one
of the foot soldiers on the on the on the grounds,
on the.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
Pgay and Dottie and yeah, all of them.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, Smiley Coffin on NBC.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
But the INTENTNA wearers is I call him right, you know,
they have that intendent on their headset.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Colt Nose got a great sense of humor. I mean,
Scheffler makes like another birdie, which was like eight million
of them this week, and goes, I'm getting texts from
players and caddies all over the country. They're like, what
in the world is this? Basically that this is like ridiculous,
even even justin Thomas Cinema text and said, because after

(24:49):
Scotty Bogey to whole is like sixteen or something, fifteen,
He goes, Scotty can just shoot thirty one under, and
we can just tie and hold the record ourselves because
thirty two hunters the all time record for four rounds
seventy two holes on a PGA tour and he ended
up at minus thirty one because he also bogied the
final hole, which ended up at a tie overall for

(25:10):
Justin Thomas, who just a couple of weeks ago took care. No,
it wasn't a couple of weeks ago. He shot a
low round a couple weeks ago, but minus thirty one
at some tournament that he shot. So they stay there.
But dude, the shots he was hitting and they won
nine times last last year, and tinkers with his game,
changed his putting grip. It's like nine victories that he's

(25:32):
already tinkered with his game to show you. And that's
where he started growing. You know, he grow He grew
up in Highland Park, same high school is as a
stafford and are lefty for the Dodgers Clayton Kershaw, not
Samy and not the same time, right, but the same
same school. And what a great player. But that meant

(25:52):
to him because it was a by It's the Byron
Nelson and you know there's a picture of him and
Byron Nelson when he was like seven or eight. And ironically,
from that pick sure to the time he got on
the tour was eleven years. And for the time he's
been on the tour till winning the tournament in his
hometown the Byron was eleven years and he did it
in fashion thirty one under and I mean he had
a nine eight stroke nine stroke lead when he opened

(26:15):
up the day, he was like, just make pars all
day and you win the tournament. So and then he
just kept firing at flag sticks. It was crazy and
in truth, no disrespective. Asking on the Rockets and watching
more than one game on TV last night, Hockey game
sevens are different. Winnipeg down three to one, goes Bengo

(26:35):
bangoed overtime bongos yes, and win four to three in
an unbelievable Game seven. Heck, the Stars had to battle
their ass off in their Game seven. It was. There
was some impressive hockey watches and I got asked the
question this morning, or maybe it was last night, but
AsSalt this morning of what's greater an NBA Game seven

(26:58):
or a hockey game seven? Sorry, I know we don't
have hockey in this town. I don't know if there's
a Game seven that replaces unless it's your win in
a World Series or something.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
But just in normal hockey and normal baseball or an
early round, you know, divisional round. Yeah, you can't give
me hockey game seven any day of the week. It
was unbelievable, the energy in that building, in the PEG
and I just I love it. But some really impressive
sports performances and one statistic that will boggle your mind.

(27:30):
It is for you Kentucky Derby folks that may have
missed out or didn't hear or haven't read it. It
she should have all over social media. I'm sure there
was twenty one horses in this race in the Kentucky Derby,
all twenty one O. Yeah. Our Secretariat descendants, every one
of them has secretariats, secretariats love making skills involved every I.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
Think I think Secretariat kind of looked at it as
it's business.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah. Well, yeah, six hundred and sixty five or almost
seven hundred, he's sired. And if you wonder and Trey
wi Go put it up and I was thinking about too,
if he goes, how could you do that? Did you
watch the Belmont stakes and wonder why the guy's such
a stud thirty one length wind. If you see the

(28:20):
old school footage of the victory from like the ground,
looking from at the front of Secretariat back, you're like,
there's no way that horse won a triple Crown race
by thirty plus lenks. And he did, and I remember
it vividly, that dude, that horse. We talk about athletes,
that horse one of the best athletes ever. Every single

(28:42):
horse in the Kentucky Derby is a descendant of Secretariat,
which means if you're buying a horse by the sperm
of Secretariat, but it ain't gonna cost thirty that's not
like one of those thirty thousand dollars buys, that's going
to cause you a lot more money than that, because
you're bound to be in a huge race. If Secretariat

(29:04):
happens to be the one who's basically the descent, you're
in the Secretary of somewhere. It all started to your horse,
and twenty one of them in this race all came
from the Secretariat umbrella. Let's put it that way.

Speaker 6 (29:22):
That's one of those where you know that put all
the well literally all the billionaires that are right there,
you know, to buy a horse secretariat. Yes, okay, yeah,
three million, that's right. Hold their paddle. Think about that
with that horse file almost like Italian wine. Does it
have the rooster on the bottle, Then it's real.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
When you put the horse to patcher after all the
hard work, when did triple crowds dominate? It's like, dude,
you've served your time? Man, What a reward for the horse?
You know, we talk about it. You know they you know,
you know, hosing them down to make sure they feel
good after and get them all the good food and
all the all the care they need as they should.
Animals are spectacular and to know that, Okay, I just

(30:01):
I ran my last race and I'm the best maybe
that's ever lived. What's my reward? They just you just
get to go bang, dude, we're gonna You're going to
feed you. You're going to live a country club lifestyle
without having to let without having to have your skill
set and hard work make a whole bunch of other
people millionaires, which you end up will over the course

(30:22):
of time. You're going to do it in an indirect way.
Instead of having to carry somebody on your back, You're
just gonna pretty much do what you want. But well,
what's my reward again? You get to country club eat.
We're going to give you the lifestyle that you so
richly deserve. You're just going to bang. Now you tell me, hey,
what are you doing the rest of your banging?

Speaker 6 (30:43):
I deon Sanders set it best. You live good, they
pay good. Right, any good you die.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
You put an arm round you. You've done well, young fellow,
pasture and and just deliver some pound cake. Well, good
thing he wasn't Myer's horse, because it didn't. It didn't
end so well for exactly right, got hit, got hit
on the ass with a golf ball, and then you know,
got taken into Dean Warmer's office, and well, you know
the rest is history. You know, Bluto, Bluto fired the gun.

(31:12):
I didn't even point it at him, right exactly, dude,
there were blakes in that gun. Think about that, though.
Twenty one horse of the race, and all of them
in a roundabout way lead back to not in a
roundabout way, into the direct ways lead back to secretariat. Yeah, man,

(31:33):
you talk about delivering pound cake. What a great gig man.
You're an awesome horse, biggest stud maybe we've ever seen
true in all sense of the words. I'll go out
to past you improve it. Okay, every single horse will
have your DNA. It's nuts, man, it's absolutely nuts.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
That's interesting.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (31:52):
And then sovereignty, you know, just uh he realized like
you said, yeah, yeah, good good mutter and realized, hey,
I've got you know, great green dad, I mean got
at this point, I guess whatever.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah. I don't know how long horses live for, right,
but probably probably way down the line. Think about this too.
The jockeys with all that weather which we seem to
get every other year at Kentucky Derby, you know, wet,
a wet surface and it was a mutter.

Speaker 10 (32:19):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (32:20):
All the goggles they wear, the jockey and then they
just as they're right. Think about this year at top
speed trying to win a race and you've got you're
flipping them off to the next because you can't wipe
them off, and the mud it's getting kicked them, especially
if you're not out, if you're not a jump out
in front and stay out in front of, you have
to come from behind. Boom you can boom kick it
down more mud, boom, kick it down, and they're all

(32:41):
dangling around your neck as you're trying to finish. That's
a skill set in itself. All those horses you're trying
to you know, get them at top speed, but solid race,
good finish and uh the favorite at times man the
the the everlasting great game changer is little change of
the weather on the track and can mean a world
of difference. And you're not win a lot of money

(33:02):
when you bet the favorite, so usually don't and a
lot of times the favorite didn't win in that race,
which is which is pretty impressive.

Speaker 11 (33:08):
It was.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
It was a fun run. But secretary, it's the biggest
stat of the weekend. And that's including Scotti Scheffler, including
Buddy Heal's numbers, and also including the fact that we'll
get to I'm sure, Lance, but colors eighty seven pitches
or do you stand on his first start? I told
you for me it was coming after his first start,
how he recovered to start two anxious to see they

(33:30):
shouldn't I I'm shocked they lost that game yesterday. Yeah,
it was a bummer. I mean, especially you're up for nothing.

Speaker 6 (33:35):
You're thinking that this is going to be good, and
then you get the drop fly ball by Zach Dezenzo.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
And then also helped the team get the lead at
the home run. Yeah yeah, I mean it's not only that,
but you got it is on him. You got not
only on him, but right you got to make the catch.
That's why it works.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
No, very true. So we'll talk about that much more
here in a little over an hour.

Speaker 6 (33:55):
Steve sparks for his weekly visit as the Strows get
ready for the Brewers up in Milwaukee.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Roger see you right there.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
We'll get back into the Rockets conversation because the respect
that was earned.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
We'll let you hear about that next right here. Sean
Salisbury show.

Speaker 12 (34:11):
Hey Sparky from the Astros broadcast team.

Speaker 13 (34:15):
Catch every Astros game on Sports Talk seven ninety and
iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 14 (34:20):
Home with your Astros now the Dry by sports Talk
seven ninety. From the clearlink dot com. Traffic, et cetera.

Speaker 15 (34:32):
From the south side to the north side. It's getting
busy out there. So on the Gulf Freeway northbound at telephone,
we've got an accident. They're blocking a couple left lanes
and traffic is backed up now to the south Loop.
Also a wreck now blocking a couple of left lanes
on the north Sam It's been there over an hour.
It's westbound at the Veterans Memorial Toll Plaza. I'm Christina
Cruz in a twenty four hour traffic center.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
This report is sponsored by Rapid Radio.

Speaker 16 (34:57):
Rapid Radios are instant push to talk walkie talk offering
national LTE coverage and no subscription ever, a great alternative
to a mobile phone for your kids for a limited time.
Go to Rapid Radios dot com and you'll get sixty
percent off free ups shipping at Code Radio and get
an extra five percent off.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Doctor Jos Molaski here with Rise Health. Are you embarrassed
about ed?

Speaker 12 (35:16):
You're not alone?

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Tired of pills or chews that take forever to work.

Speaker 12 (35:20):
Our Risemax strips are a game changer.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
These discrete strips slip on the tongue, dissolvin seconds, no water,
no noise, no awkward moments, not even your partner will know.
Pack with sidentophil to dalphill and a touch of oxytocin
for that next level connection. No pharmacy lines, no face
to face visits, just confidence.

Speaker 12 (35:37):
Delivered right to your door.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Visit rize health dot com today.

Speaker 17 (35:44):
Military veterans and active duty service members, you could become
a certified cyber warrior with just twelve weeks of training
at my Computer Career. Cybersecurity specialists are in high demand
and it Pros with these skills often enjoy abundant opportunity
and a great lifestyle. Protect our people, liberty and treasured
institutions from cyber threats. Skill Bridge and other VA benefits

(36:04):
are available to those who qualify. Learn more at my
Computer Career dot edu slash CWP. That's my computer career
dot edu slash CWP.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
It's Noscla Casinos biggest cash prizes ever. Four will win twenty.

Speaker 18 (36:17):
Four Okay, it's our biggest cash prizes ever.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
A little more power please, I got it.

Speaker 19 (36:24):
Four winners would feel the power of forty five thousand
dollars on.

Speaker 11 (36:28):
Lucks the faults, How the universe would bow as you
as yours at control?

Speaker 20 (36:35):
Getting there, unlock the one hundred and eighty thousand mega
money bolted weekends at Noscolla Casino in Livingsday, the luckiest
spot in Texas.

Speaker 21 (36:43):
Read itch Ivitated eye lids red itchy ivitated eyelids read
itchi Ivitated eye lids might be caused by mites.

Speaker 20 (36:56):
These symptoms may be demodex blepharitis, an island dizzy. It's
caused by an infestation of demodex mites, a common mic
found on humans. If you are experiencing these symptoms, visit
ilibcheck dot com and talk to an eye doctor. Don't
freak out, get checked out. Sponsored by Tarsis Pharmaceuticals.

Speaker 22 (37:13):
Hey, if you're listening to me right now, I have
one thing every business needs most attention.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Think about it.

Speaker 22 (37:19):
We swipe and scroll past stuff all day, but when
we're driving, cooking, and working out, we're also listening.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
That's the magic of audio.

Speaker 22 (37:27):
At iHeart, we're in your next customer's ears while they're
living life and listening just like you are right now.
So get your customers to listen up today using radio,
digital and podcasts. Visit Iheartadvertising dot com. That's Iheartadvertising dot Com.

Speaker 23 (37:43):
At Parsons, we deliver transportation solutions at Movethworld. Learn more
about how we're delivering world class airports, sufficient metros, and
thousands of miles of roads and highways around the world
at Parsons dot com.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
Slash Transportation.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Welcome morning, Ketto.

Speaker 12 (38:00):
I love that you're home from college.

Speaker 18 (38:02):
I've missed you.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Still taking your nature made vitamins every day.

Speaker 24 (38:07):
A multivitamin and a probiotic.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
You better be taking yours.

Speaker 18 (38:11):
Still looking out for me, Mom, I'll never stop made
to care for you every day. Nature made the number
one pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand find Us in
the Vitamin Aisle based on a survey of pharmacists who
recommend branded vitamins and supplements.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
The Sean Salisbury Show continues to no, now.

Speaker 7 (38:34):
You know, I know you will.

Speaker 9 (38:42):
To let you go.

Speaker 7 (38:46):
Please.

Speaker 6 (38:47):
Oh reminds me of the big guy from uh remember
the Titans. Every time I hear this song, so I
always think of anyway. It is Sean Salisbury Show. Sports
Soccer seven ninety Rockets one O three eighty nine losers
to the Warriors. Season is over after a seven game

(39:08):
playoff series. Astros in Milwaukee taking on the Brewers after
losing two or three over the weekend to the White Sox,
and Sovereignty wins the Kentucky Derby. But we are Rockets
here in this hour of The Shawn Salisbury Show. Someone
three two, one two five seven ninety two jump a board.
Let's head out to the northwest side. Roger wants to

(39:29):
weigh in. Roger good morning.

Speaker 7 (39:32):
Hey, good morning Shawn and Dan. Yeah, I don't understand.
We had a couple we got a pair of Game
sevens this weekend, and you know, it kind just doesn't
make sense if you force Game seven and you don't
show up for it. No, it's just if a younger
Spire team, you know, you should go out there and
at least that first wave should have done something with

(39:53):
the Warriors in the idea and they beat you to
the punch and it kind of gives me us he
early eerie sharing about uh, when the James Harden led
Rockets played the Spurs and that was another veteran group
that we should have passed and couldn't get it done.
And uh, I just don't know. It's uh if if
the GM wants to go through all that again, because

(40:15):
you know, I mean, I just think that uh, you know,
Jalen Green, unless you lessen his role, and I do
not know that if they're gonna trade him, they're gonna
move any pieces. You can't compromise your defense of DNA
for another guy who's not gonna fit the fit the puzzle.
So all that is very sensitive stuff and I just
think that, uh, we can't stand pat one for seven

(40:37):
is a glaring is a glaring number for Jailen that
you just can't overlook. So I'm not sure which direction
we're gonna go, but I would I would assume that
the rofel Stones are gonna lead to the way of
maybe less a lesser robes. He's gonna stay on the
team if you can accept that, or maybe get another
piece in there that can fit the defensive philosophy that

(41:01):
we got going on. But it's gonna be a it's
not gonna be an easy fix. But you know, we
have more, we have a foundation, We have a solid corps.
I just don't want to compromise that for one or
two pieces that may not fit. So it's gonna be
It's gonna be a delicate, uh situation for sure. And
I just wished that because, you know, loose to the Warriors,

(41:23):
it emphasizes the whole deal. And uh yeah, we'll just
see what happens and it's gonna be very interesting. I
have a good morning, Vellas.

Speaker 6 (41:32):
Hey appreciate the call, Roger. I mean, Jalen Green's not
taking a decreased role with this team. If he's here,
he's got to be a guy that you count on.
I mean, that's that's the it is the whole story.
You don't trade him, that'll be the reason. Do you
want your county you're counting on. He's gonna be a guy,
a main guy. He's not just gonna be a eighth
guy on the bench. He's not a jag. No, He's

(41:54):
just not just a guy. It'll either be here where
they still believe.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
There's another level to his game to get to, which
in the season there obviously is whether he gets to
it or not. That's that's for he may to decide,
and him to decide, and this this this team. But
I'm yeah, if he's not going to be that guy here,
he'll be that at least attempt to be that good.
They'll move him to be the guy somewhere else.

Speaker 6 (42:15):
So while we're not feeling good this morning about this team,
there may be is reason to feel better about what
this team can do in the future. And a guy
that shared those thoughts last night after the game, again,
maybe you wouldn't necessarily expect this from him, especially after
he looks into the camera and says good night. It's
been real. Draymond Green, of course is who I'm talking about.

(42:37):
But after the game, he being some praise on these rockets.

Speaker 11 (42:41):
He may the way he had those guys fighting. I
gained a lot of respect for that team throughout the series.
One of the tougher series I've played there personally, But
that's a young team to be reckoned with. And I
told myself I was gonna talk crazy because they have
been talking crazy a series and on the internet. But

(43:01):
I gained so much respect for those guys. Sim Goon
is an incredible player.

Speaker 10 (43:05):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (43:05):
The way Fred van vliet as Steven Adams led those guys,
they had no experience and they led them took us
to the brink. That team's going to be a force
to be reckoned with. And I hope they understand it.
You know, things can change fast in this league. You're
you're only on the up until you're not, you know.
But they got something promising that they can continue to
build on. Jabari Smith incredible.

Speaker 16 (43:27):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (43:28):
He played like a vectus whole series, getting his spots
knocking big shots.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Now. A lot of respect for those.

Speaker 6 (43:35):
Guys and something that you said there, Sean that stood
out to me because it kind of gets to what
we've talked about a little bit earlier. In this hour,
and that is running it back with this group. I
think that there are a couple of examples out there
that would show you that running it back does not
necessarily mean what you thinks it means. Because a lot

(43:56):
of people pointing to the twenty twenty three Sacramento Kings,
that was a team that looked like, hey, they're gonna
take that next step. They've got some bonus. They've got
the Aaron Fox. They they've got a good young team
that's that's gonna be a team to keep an eye on.
They haven't gotten back to this point. Team that I'm
pretty familiar with, twenty twenty one Atlanta Hawks. They got
all the way to the Eastern Conference Finals, losing to
Giannis and the Milwaukee Bucks. And you're thinking, Trey Young,

(44:19):
that group that's gonna be a fun group to watch
for a few years.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
They haven't gotten back. I'm just saying that when you.

Speaker 6 (44:25):
Keep a when you keep a team the way that
it is, there's no guarantees that you're going to get
back to, in this case, the two seed and being
in this position again next year, especially Sean when this
team currently constructed massive offensive holes.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Oh yeah, they and it's it's when it's is blatant
a naked eye to see, for our naked eye to see,
they see it. And while I'm all for keeping a
core of a team that in order to get the
next guy, I mean, the dominant player, you're not gonna
be able to keep all the You're gonna have to
give away a lot. We know what guys were talking about, right,

(45:04):
The question is how can you do it? As current constructed?
The inability to knock down the shots you're talking about
may prevent them from being an NBA Championship caliber team.
So wor's your ceiling meaning your expectations? I can't imagine
if you're the Rockets organization, you're thinking just getting the
round two or so of the playoffs or you know,

(45:25):
getting to the Western Conference final would be good. Well,
it'd be good, but it's not the end game. And
the question is can you get to the end game
with Rosh you have? And it sounds to me like
you you don't believe they can because of the holes offensively.
I would have never thought that in a seven game series,
and we got to see seven games of it, six

(45:48):
of them in which he was very in Jalen Green
speaking of one of those young supposed stars regular season
really improved his game. You would have expected to go
six of the seven games and have him quite frankly,
be ghosts the most of the time. So these are
things you got to look at. Who is he and

(46:10):
why and guys like that the why, and if the
why doesn't match to what you're trying to get to,
you got to do whatever you can to move them.

Speaker 7 (46:17):
You just do.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
And I know it's hard where you're building it, but
you have to ask, Okay, why did this happen? And
what gives us the best or who gives us the
best chance to do it? Golden States is long and
too moving on or to do what Denver does, or
to play like Oklahoma City, where's our next level? And
if that's not, if you don't think it's attainable, regardless

(46:40):
of how we feel about a certain player, you've got
to go all in. And that may mean a hell
of a lot of bodies, you know, a movement of
bodies to get somebody here that you really wants. That's
gonna be That's going to be the task. Do they
see it like you and I see it? I would
think they do well.

Speaker 6 (46:55):
I mean I would think that probably Again, like I said,
Rafelstone emade Yoka when they meet with the media, I'm
sure there's probably not going to be a ton of
oh man, we have to make wholesale changes, But I
mean it is going to be interesting to hear you know,
where where do you feel like you can improve this
team offensively? Because I don't see a one year just

(47:17):
massive all of a sudden, Hey, this guy's knocking down
three pointers like nobody's business. Hey, we no longer have
trouble at the free throw line with this current group
because you can do all those things in the offseason.
I don't think you necessarily holy change who you are
as a player.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, would you line up with it? I'm just having
some fun, Like a like a Booker Thompson shngon Jannis
and another player You're like, hell, yeah, if you could
get Booker, I mean, I just if you're willing to
spot quickly, can I make that move?

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Right?

Speaker 2 (47:47):
That's what I'm saying. You did the offensive threat. That
is a Booker adding them to because I don't know
if one guy's going to be the difference, agreed, Because
if you get the one guy we're talking about, Milwaukee.
What would you have to give up to get him
both of them? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you're gonna
have to give up a majority of that now if
you can. Men Thompson is at the top of the list.

(48:08):
I can't part with him, and that's okay. You've got
a bunch of young I think there's people out there
that would think Jabari Smith's a player. He's really good,
starting to turn into the three and D guy. You
thought he was, right, I mean, and you've seen flashes
from Jalen Green a regular season Damn, somebody may think, well,
he can get us to another level. This is just
early and in his infancy of a postseason career. So

(48:29):
there's a lot of questions that have to go into this.
And I'm not sure one guy is the end of
the upgrade. Even if it was a guy like Jianness,
I still think there's other pieces. The question is how
do you financially put it together and make it work
and keep the culture that he may is trying to build.

Speaker 6 (48:45):
Well, at least there's one guy that you don't have
to worry about anymore because well, he's elsewhere, and he
did something this weekend that makes you thankful he's no
longer in a rockets at Uni. We'll talk about that
here as we start seven o'clock.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Cowery here.

Speaker 6 (48:59):
Sean salis very show any day of the week too.
It is really to get to get the boat out
and that's it. Yeah, there you go there very much.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
A lot of freaking zoids. Huh yeah, interesting you want
those over the trapezoids? That's that's yeah. Yeah, shapes here,
we don't, we don't do well, yeah we do. I mean,
what's the trapezoid shape you're looking for? Dana? I mean
to each is their own. I guess do you ever
do anybody ever come up to you said, book them, book.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
Them dan o?

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:36):
It was one of my uncle's friends. As a kid.

Speaker 6 (49:39):
You know, I was like five, so I had no
idea what Hawaii five O was and he used to
say that, and it annoyed the hell out of me. Yeah,
book Dana, because he just he knew that.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
It annoyed me.

Speaker 6 (49:50):
You know, as a little five year old you don't
necessarily know where as now it's just like book them Dano.
I eat, Yeah, I've heard it a few times, and
then you know, I'm glad that we recently went to Hawaii,
you know, I mean, that's that's that's a little bit.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
Of a humble brag.

Speaker 6 (50:04):
But it really was a humble brage, you know. But
you know, telling somebody that my name was Dan. They
didn't they didn't go that route, which I appreciated because
I mean it's like, come on, that's like that's amateur.
It's I mean, it's like celebrate New Year's Eve regular.
The first Dan step foot on one of the islands
over there, they called him, book him Dado.

Speaker 5 (50:20):
Yeah, book Dano. That's fair, book him Dan.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Five. Oh do you call the popo five o or
popo or the police police with some respect? Yeah? Cops? Cops?

Speaker 5 (50:32):
Yeah, I stick with our people.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
First response. Yeah people, Yeah, yeah, absolutely so Cody Johnson
and Grease Yeah yeah, the first responders. You don't think,
I mean, you go roll up on them and say
you with the five oh? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (50:47):
They like, I don't find myself in those situations where
I got to ask the cops.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah, yeah, hey cop, what are you here for? You
You got to tell me if you're a cop. There's
hundred pounds of blow of their office. They want to
know why the dog on cops are showing up.

Speaker 6 (51:02):
Yeah, that's a good segue by you, because that's actually
gonna come up in the steak out.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Nice. Yeah, nice. So yeah, they book him, Yeah the
boy what original call by me? Huh, that's it. They're
booking Dan O.

Speaker 5 (51:15):
Great one of one of the great all time theme songs.

Speaker 9 (51:17):
Too.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
It makes it brick. It breaks me up sometimes it does.
So you think the summer on Lake Conroe with a
boat has zoid opportunities for people easily. You're casting a
wide net at that point. Yes, a lot of a
lot of freakyzoids out there.

Speaker 6 (51:39):
Now, I got places you can be able to, you know,
pull your boat up to have a good time, all
good spots out there.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
You're ready, you're ready to join us? Of course, that's
what I'm talking. You throw out the call, I'm there,
that's book him.

Speaker 5 (51:51):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (51:53):
I I will even grin and Barrett if somebody calls
me Dano there you go.

Speaker 5 (51:58):
There you go to be on the water for sure.
For sure.

Speaker 6 (52:01):
I'll throw on a Hawaiian sure too, just to just
to play the part. Brad Ronnie get to you guys
here in a second. But the Rockets lose one O
three eighty nine to the Warriors to lose that series.
Astros dropped two or three over the weekend to the
White Sox. They rained shortened game yesterday called at their
six and a half five to four to the Chicago

(52:22):
White Sox, and sovereignty winning the Kentucky Derby. But before
we get to Brad and Ronnie, did you see that
James Harden and the Clippers where they were bounced from
the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
There's a shock.

Speaker 6 (52:35):
And not only were they bounced from the playoffs, that's
enough from James Harden where seven points in that game
seven He opted not to talk with reporters after all
four of their losses, including the elimination. So, I mean
a guy that had a chance to possibly return back here.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
There were the.

Speaker 6 (52:52):
Reports that you know, met with im A Dooka told
him how he was gonna play, Yeah, how he wanted
to be used offensively, and ima Udoka supposedly said, yeah,
we're good, We're not going to go that route. But
I would say, Sean, of all of the stars that
we've had here in this city for the Rockets, I
mean the chem Elijah Wan is the top of the top,

(53:12):
and then the lean years you had Steve Francis, who
I think is more of a fan favorite just because
of some of the good things he gave you, but
you just didn't have the wins that went along with it.
But the guy that nobody misses is number thirteen, James Harden.
Like you go to games like, say you go to
an Astros game. Now, you'll still see pregnant jerseys. You'll
still see you know, Tucker and Springer, you know players

(53:34):
like that because they did good things here, they won.
But you go to Rockets games, you rarely see a
James Harden jersey in that building.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Great score, great offensive player. You're always gonna come up short. Though,
if he's your number one, I'm gonna say those two
things into the list, right, and you got to go.
If he's your number one and you were planning on
winning the championship, it's just not gonna happen. It's just
not when you say that, oh, it's not his fault.
How many times do we get to say that every

(54:03):
team he's on can't get over the hump. You pay
him all that money at what point in time, Hell,
I'm listening to people tell me Javen Green with trying
to move on from me, he ain't the guy. And
that's been seven playoff games, and I understand the optics
of those six of those seven games work should but
how often do you get to a point where you

(54:24):
just realize James Harden just ain't got He's not a
he's not gonna be a champion. As you he may
be the ninth guy on the bench, the fourth guy
coming off the bench, which if it ever gets the point,
he's that guy.

Speaker 11 (54:37):
You know.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Remember I started his career as a six man. Remember
he started coming off the bench when he's in Oklahoma
City I'm talking about it started and then obviously became
the guy, you know, one of the guys, and they
had the Big three and all that stuff. But he
when James Hardens has to start coming off the bench,
guess what he'll do. He'll be done right, he'll do
just he'll walk away from it, see and be star

(54:58):
or bust. Right, And he is a star offensive player,
has been Hall of Fame, numbers, m VP, all those
great things. But when the postseason starts, he's different. The
teams he plays on are different, and I don't mean
different a good way. You got we we crushed who
would we crushed? For disappearing in Game seven in the postseason.

(55:19):
What what happened with Lebron in the fourth quarter? Yeah?
What it would happen? How do you how do you
score if you're if you're the guy, guysco how do
you score seven points in a game? How in a
in a closeout game? And going into that, we said, okay,
well is it is it going to be the typical,
same old, same old?

Speaker 6 (55:38):
It was not to say that Draymond Green is the
end all be all when it comes to things like
he said, But do you think he's saying that if
James Harden is still on this team?

Speaker 2 (55:47):
No, no, no, no, he may he may think James
is a good player. I don't think that, Draymond. I mean,
I don't know Draymond Green's feelings for James Harden. But
if he's watching and honest and he's a smart basketball
like you guy, James Harden's great to sell tickets and
you know you're gonna score some points. He's a fun
offensive watch. It can be a pain ass, but there

(56:08):
are also times when he disappears to a point you're saying,
what in the world has happened? And unfortunately those disappearances
happen too often. It happened way too often the postseason.
You can't. We would be obliterating Jason Tatum. We had
tobliterate Jalen Green. We would obliterate anybody who decided that
Lebron guys who've got a lot more jewel around their fingers,

(56:34):
a lot of I do. I think Harden's a hell
of a player, James Harden, if you want to make
sure you don't go to an NBA title, bring him
here as your guy, and you will continue that. That
would be the wrong mistake unless he decides to back.
So I'm just gonna facilitate, y'all. A'll average sixteen a
game and you do this. The problem is what do
you you think he's giving you buying on the defensive end? Nope,

(56:57):
you want to knock you? You need to score? Does
he increase your offensive scoring you?

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
The problem is he's so ball dominant too. I don't
think he could resist still not being ball dominant. Yeah,
he ain't winning a title as your number one. Sorry,
that time is coming gone and that time was never here.

Speaker 5 (57:13):
Well, I mean I know they.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Got close, and ah, well, if Chris Baul doesn't get
hurt you know what, if my ant had ball, she'd
be my uncle. And there's a part of me that thinks,
even if he didn't, that they would have found You know,
there's that part of you that says, what history have
been there? And then what would have happened for the
rest of James's career? What do you have just said?
I got my championship, I got my MVP, I got
my money check out, and I'm just going to score

(57:35):
when I can just kind of do my thing. Or
would it have catapulted him into another level stratosphere of
like I got one that felt pretty damn good over
scoring titles in that MVP again, I got to do
it again. I don't know who it would have been.
I honestly, I have no idea. You can point to
other guys and say, what do you think he'd What
do I think of this guy? What do I think
I gy honest? Or what do you think that you know? Whoever?

(57:58):
Will one be enough for shake just Alexander? I doubt it?
The question is would it have been enough for him?
But I don't think if you want to, if you're
gonna bring a guy like that here, you better have
you better have a strong clubhouse or a strong locker room.
And in the in the case of basketball, and you better,
you better define roles quickly. But you knew that was

(58:21):
coming down the pike, dude, you knew it was a
Game seven and the great Disappearing Act And then what
Nuggets are? Moving on? There you go, we got we
had four pretty good teams.

Speaker 5 (58:32):
Now, yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
It's not sexy, but we got we got Oklahoma City
plays our best basketball if it's on where I'm at,
and maybe I'll casually watch it, but basketball is done
for me for the rest of the But there's some
intrigue in the East too, now, the fact that the
Knicks and I'm a Brunton guy, and but if it's
not your team, I understand why you check out because
the game doesn't exactly excite people at times these days.

(58:56):
And I got a lot of shows.

Speaker 6 (58:58):
I gotta catch up on friends, neighbors, the John Ham Show,
a few others. You know you're done, Yeah, this this
is the time to get into those Brad Ronnie, see
you guys right there working into the conversation seven one
three two one two five seven ninety sean. Whenever you've
been in a pinch, have you ever used the excuse
work stress to try to explain why you're there. No, well,

(59:21):
you know somebody actually did out there, and we'll see
if it passes and it cuts the mustard here, we'll
talk about it here. Sean Salisbury Show. It is the
Sean Salisbury Show. Sports Talks. Seven ninety Rockets one oh
three eighty nine losers to the Warriors in Game seven
of their Western Conference playoff series.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
Season is over.

Speaker 6 (59:43):
Astros two out of three losers to the White Sox.
Over the weekend, the Brewers next in Milwaukee and also
Sovereignty winning the Kentucky Derby. Sean Disney World the happiest
place on Earth. I'm sure you've probably been there a
few times. Probably took the kids.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
There when they were younger.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Disney World as well.

Speaker 6 (01:00:03):
Yes, okay, so yeah, yeah, so been able to experience
some fun times. Well A Florida man, forty four year old.
This was in late March. According to people, Dustin Lee
Wallace and his son were outside the gates of Magic
Kingdom start going through the security checkpoints. Well the arrest
Affid David. The magazine reports included in a statement from

(01:00:26):
Disney security that the screening process led to Wallace's back
pocket being flagged.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Well, you know, he had a little bit of a
bulky wallet.

Speaker 6 (01:00:35):
There is in the story here from OutKick pointing out
George Costanza had a bulky wallet. That's because it had
a bag of the white pottery stuff in it. The
cokayina was in there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:00:50):
Yeah, they noticed the white pottery substance after they did
the wallet autopsy there if you will of you know,
starting to figure out, hey, what's what's in here?

Speaker 10 (01:00:59):
Why?

Speaker 6 (01:01:00):
Why is this the case with forty four year old
Dustin Lee Wallace, a Florida man, And they then called
out Orange County Sheriff's deputies, who did a field test
to determine if indeed it was. You know how if
you've watched any of those cop shows, they'll throw it
in a little bit of a liquid in there, it
turns a certain color.

Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
Yep, that's what we got. That's what you have.

Speaker 6 (01:01:22):
And when police got a statement from Wallace, he had
said that he had it with them because he was
dealing with stress from work. I gotta tell you, I
don't know much about the substance game out there, And
of course the way that I just said it right there,
probably would tell you that. I don't, but I would
think that that stuff I've been told is a significant

(01:01:46):
upper I don't think that if you're dealing with a
ton of stress, raising the heart rate and doing all
of those things, that's necessarily the way to go.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Yeah, I think that. I think that blows the ad
went and out do blow that's the answer. I'm obviously
kidding folks, So don't don't start doing that, Okay, but yeah,
I went in doubt. Can you imagine, well, why you
have all this? Well? Works got me down, works got
me a little stressed. You mean work out? You stressed,

(01:02:15):
and you need a little pick me up for all
the party and you want to do that? Think about work? Yeah,
Well we're gonna.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
Ride Space Mountain.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
We're gonna do that.

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
Then we're gonna get some cotton candy. We're gonna have
some fun.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
I've still as a grown ass man. I've never even
rubbed a line of cocaine on my gums in my life.
I've never tried it. I have never tried it in
my life. You me, boss, I I mean, I got
a pulsive, addictive personality that I have. I've never had
an interest because I was always afraid that, well, what
if I get the bad patch? You know, I've never

(01:02:45):
and that's true. I mean, I'm pretty open book here, man.
I'll tell you anything I've tried. That doesn't mean they
don't do as I do, do as I say, don't
do it. I had a buddy, a long time ago
professional athlete who tried it and one time and said
it was too good, said I couldn't do it anymore.
And I know he's a friend of mine. I know
for a fact he doesn't do it because but he said,

(01:03:06):
and this was years ago, and he said that that's
ruined a lot of lives and a lot of families,
a lot of careers, man, and a lot of wallets.
So yeah, But apparently, if you're gonna go to the
amusement park, you don't want to stress, you know that? Well,
I mean I would if you don't want to stress.

Speaker 6 (01:03:22):
Again, not knowing much about that side, but like when
you want to do like the Aaron Rodgers Way, the Ayahuasca,
you know, if maybe you know, hey, is that really
Mickey right there?

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Or am I not really seeing Mickey? You know, hey,
what what's what's Darth Vader doing here? Part of the
Disney family. Now, yeah, there you go. I would think
there's other ways to handle it. But you know, uh,
how do you get shook down?

Speaker 6 (01:03:47):
Well, I mean so when you're whenever you go through
security checkpoints, now, like think about it. You go to
the airport, they tell you empty out your pockets. Well,
I mean, you know, you empty out your pockets or
if you know you still got it on you, they're like, hey,
what's that in your back pocket?

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
And are you happy to save me?

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
They ask that pocket? Well, some people might tucket in
their back pocket. Who knows, you know, where's a belt?
I don't know, but so, but you pulled it out.
But didn't you think going in maybe you shouldn't maybe
tucket in your shoe or something. You would think like
I wear a shoe.

Speaker 7 (01:04:19):
That you like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
The airport of like you know, you got to they're
not doing that amusement frigging way. But isn't he just
check for the phone? Are they really checking for a
recreational blow?

Speaker 5 (01:04:31):
I would do so, But I mean, how do you
screw it up?

Speaker 6 (01:04:34):
I mean, like I said, he had a massively bulky
wallet right at that point, right the weird.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Yeah, so open your wallet if he just stuck it
under the bottom of his shoe. Nobody to say anything
because they're not sniffing dogs at Disney World. Okay, here
I am giving him hints, and I'm like, I've never
done it, but I thought, okay, what's the wise way
to do it? Well? Is there metal in it? No,
it's you got it stuffed in your wallet to get
blow through the through your amusement park day. I understand

(01:05:02):
that can give you stress to standing in line, but
who wouldn't just put it a place where nobody could
visualize it and then go into your stall and if
that's how you're doing it, so for future, basically, don't
bring blow to this. His son, man, Dad's going to
the bathroom a lot coming back out. Yeah, he looks awfully.

(01:05:24):
He looks awfully energetically. What are you look at the toilet?

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Are looking at it?

Speaker 9 (01:05:28):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
What?

Speaker 18 (01:05:28):
What you know?

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
How dogs like when they go to the restroom and
then they scrape their feet when they did, like, is
it like almost want to celebration when they're scraping the
back of their feet and they get fired and their
tails start to wag wag, Like Okay, man, that felt good?

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
What he did. He started, I went away for humans,
after they get real excited, they get off the toys,
just scrape their feet a lot and say, okay, accomplished.
Well that's better.

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
It's better than dragging across the carpet.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:05:56):
To get the.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Yeah, yeah, damn it, Dan, Yeah. Take So we've all
sign with the dogs, right classic So too much thickness
in his wallet. He had thick of the wrong places.

Speaker 11 (01:06:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:06:10):
In addition to uh, not only dealing with the law
on this, because as you can imagine, having cocaine.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Put the real like you said, this is a perfect
opportunity real quick to rip those who have to get
into their you know, like you've talked about. You can't
just say cocaine. It's got to say what you got
to throw the you know, yeah, what it happens to be? Oh,
it's South America. Cokayena. Have you ever noticed you got

(01:06:39):
to stress the Hispanic.

Speaker 5 (01:06:41):
Part of course.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
It's like it's like, okay, pretend like my name is
uh pepe, I don't know, give me a Hispanic name. Okay,
that I that's okay. One vot is the gold coffee
on me. So this is in the mean streets asco
and I'm a broadcaster, but i'm but i'm you know,
I talk like this, right and you're introducing me. Yeah,

(01:07:06):
but why have you ever know we're talking about why
they got it? Why do we have to know? We
don't say when it's some other nationality, you don't try
to pred you know's all of a sudden breakdown into
your Spanish. Well, I mean it's yours, your Japanese mode,
or you don't start, okay, introduce me as an irishman,
like I'm an Irish broadcaster now, so you're talking normal Seanco. Yeah,

(01:07:26):
why if you we've talked about.

Speaker 6 (01:07:28):
This or or you know, you could get Liam Neeson
on people. Yeah, Sean mcgloughlin, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Mean, have you ever noticed, like, okay, Hispanica, we have
to start rolling our ours right, Like there's a Fernando
right instead of oh Fernando yeho, Fernando Valence. What are
you even Fernando? Yeah, hey, what's your oh the great
leftander Fernando Valence.

Speaker 18 (01:07:49):
Way.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
But sometimes when you say as day, people are like, exactly, absolutely,
have you ever done what you brought? You see it
all the time of the news. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, yeah,
it's a classic. So yeah, I don't think we're I
don't think we're going there with the cocaya. No, but
just thick wallet. He had plans that day he did

(01:08:13):
a popo guy asked, didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:08:14):
He's dealing dealing with trust from work, like I said,
and uh as it was right, Yeah exactly, Yeah, no
stress here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
We have a good time.

Speaker 6 (01:08:22):
Yeah, yeah, that's what we do from six to ten
every single morning. But in addition to being taken in
the custody and booked in the jail, Disney also told
him you were banned from here, sir, you are no
were no longer allowed at any of our properties. Yes man, yeah,
dust dunstant Lee Wallace.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Not even They're not even gonna give him a second
chance to apologize and get that tough.

Speaker 6 (01:08:44):
Yeah, Disney's made a few mistakes in these days. We
had to give them for shows up there at Epcot.
They're gonna be like, guess what's there. You're not seeing
the world today. As a matter of fact, you will
never see the world on our property.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Ever, they've raised their prices to the plats like eight
thousand dollars to get in. Are they going to apologize
to us, give it. Give everybody else second, I mean
give should we give them a second chance?

Speaker 6 (01:09:03):
I was gonna say, go to Hawaii or you know,
go and stand in line for a magic mountain. Right,
which which one do you want to do?

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Exactly? Space space Mountain? Yeah, damn right, space Mountain. Rick
Flair told us that just don't. The moral of the
stories don't don't have blow on you.

Speaker 5 (01:09:20):
If you want to, dude, if you're eighteen years.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Or older, yeah, don't, don't. Don't don't have blow. I'm
with you.

Speaker 6 (01:09:27):
Yeah, anytime you see Rick Flair, you gotta throw that
last part in there. But yes, the moral of the
story don't be Dustin Lee Wallace. But even more of
the moral of the story, don't do blow. I was
gonna say, don't don't try to mule your way into
Disney properties through the mule card.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
And that's it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:43):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (01:09:43):
That's that's what Dustin Lee was h It's what forty
four year old Dustin Lee Wallace tried to do. And
you know what, Sean, he f double a f O.
He messed around and he found out that's it, you know,
for sure. Brad Ronnie promised to get you guys in
on the conversation, So get into a little bit of
Astros here as we are gonna welcome in Steve Sparks

(01:10:04):
here in about thirty minutes, says uh again, getting going
here on the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (01:10:11):
You and.

Speaker 5 (01:10:15):
Did I hate it too early? Maybe I did? I
do that all the time with songs? Whatever it is.

Speaker 6 (01:10:20):
The Sewn Salisbury Show Sports Socks seven ninety Rocket season
is over one O three eighty nine losers to the
Golden State Warriors. Astros lose two three over the weekend
to the White Sox in Chicago, the Brewers next to
Milwaukee and Scottie Scheffler thirty one under taking the CJ
Cup Byron Nelson there over the weekend in golf seven

(01:10:43):
one three two one two five seven ninety is the
number to get in continue the Rockets conversation. Brad on
the northwest side wants to weigh in. Brad, what's going on?

Speaker 13 (01:10:51):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
Real quick?

Speaker 5 (01:10:52):
Touch on your wife.

Speaker 25 (01:10:53):
I've shut the island down. No one leaves about twenty
minutes into.

Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
It on a murder real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
I kind of went I kind of felt going away
from this series that we were the better team. It
just I know we lost.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
I know they ended up winning.

Speaker 25 (01:11:10):
I just felt like we were the better team also too,
I think we need to get a couple of guys
in the weight room. We get them in the weight room,
put some muscle on them, and maybe maybe that game's
a little different. I did like the you know, the
four foot two foot shots gotta go. I mean, you
got to start putting that away. And uh, Draymond Green,

(01:11:32):
I mean, he's the Dennis Rodman of this era.

Speaker 5 (01:11:34):
You say what you want.

Speaker 25 (01:11:35):
He don't have the playboy and lifestyle outside the game,
but that man's mean I'll hang up and listen.

Speaker 5 (01:11:41):
Thanks guys, man, I appreciate the call.

Speaker 6 (01:11:43):
I mean, you know, those were some of the other
things that were being talked about last night after a game.
I mean, a guy like Alprin Shingoon who Sean. I mean,
despite his best efforts, he just could not solve the
Draymond Green puzzle. Whenever Draymond bodied him up, you knew
that it was going to be at the very least
a tightly contested shot. But then it got to a

(01:12:05):
point where he's trying to pull off Dirk Novitsky leg
kickout fadeaways, some of these other shots that you're just
like that should not be your game.

Speaker 5 (01:12:13):
Man, what are you doing?

Speaker 6 (01:12:15):
And I mean you saw that those shots went the
way that probably you thought that they were going to
go once they left his hand.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Yeah. Do you do you believe his presence alone makes
a difference in a game shingoons, No, I'm talking about
Draymond on these Oh, easily easily look for for all
of like, you know, us not being you know, we
can't stand you're crazy. That's why I'm asking get out
of that mode for a second and just his presence
alone without dominating against he gets in people's head.

Speaker 5 (01:12:44):
Yes, he does.

Speaker 6 (01:12:45):
You saw that and the rest of the team took
it on and at times they frustrated the Rockets.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
Yes, for sure. I believe that's a huge part of
his game still this day. He's a he's a the
ultimate mind you know what guy, he's naturally with if
you have him in hockey, he is to the nth
degree in basketball. How you deal with it and some
don't deal with it, Well, he's the goon, He's the
rat Kenny, the rat Lensman. There you go, same way

(01:13:13):
skating around. There's no doubt putting you into the boards, yep,
and then skating away and then popping in and he
did another one. And then when he's on the ice,
your heads on a swivel looking for him, and even
if he doesn't, gets away less well, and at times
on a certain shift you just don't quite nothing happens,
but your head's on a swivel. You're always watching for
him or listening for him. He does have that impact,

(01:13:35):
and he actually played you know, good basketball. He's you know,
he'll take the ball off the point once in a while.
I mean, he's a he's a distributor, he's he's a
guy who's a facilitator, and he does I think guys
saw guys in football like that that we're able to
talk their way through a game. I'm not saying Draymond's
hasn't encountered. Yeah, who can talk their way through a

(01:13:55):
game and impact And you're like, these are grown ass
men letting this happen to him or to them. I
do think his impact is far deeper than just what
happens when the basketball is in or out of his hand.
I think he does talk himself into people's head and
can't affect series that way, and he knows he can,
hence why he continues to do it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:14):
But he also I mean, you know the cut earlier. Yeah,
he I mean, he did talk about how he did
have respect for the Rockets in terms of I think
he's a realist.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
When it comes to good basketball play. I mean, at
times you wonder if he knows, like, dude, what are
you doing? But I think he is basketball like he
recognize as a team that's got it, and I think
he thinks his team's close to having it. I do,
And that's a whether you like him or not. He's
been a league long enough for when he speaks, the
respect factors there.

Speaker 6 (01:14:40):
Yeah, I mean, because you can't take that away from him.
When he goes on tn T or you know, any
of the other networks. Whenever you know his playoff run
is done, he's great. He will be in one of
those seats when his career is over, and he's gonna
be really good at it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
I would agree one hundred percent. He's going to ruffle
a lot of feathers. But he's already start doing that,
so this will be As a matter of fact, I'd
be more like, what's wrong with Draymond? If he wasn't.
That is good. He's he's and we let's let's stop there.
While he does a lot of talking can be very dirty.
For the majority of his career, he's also been productive.

(01:15:15):
The guy's been a good player. He just drives us crazy.
We want to get We don't want to give him
credit for because he drives us crazy for the stuff
we're talking about. But when he walks out there and
pops up there, people that didn't like him as a
player but he's broadcasting talking about their team will end
up liking him. Because if you're looking for transparency and
a guy who's not afraid, he'll give it to you. See,
he will say it. He's he's Charles Barkley, Uh, the

(01:15:38):
the younger version and the newest addition to it. And
in truth, someday, if they're on the same set, it
should be along with you know, if they were at
another guy to those those four cats that are one, two, three, yeah,
those four you know I'm including Ernie right, that may
make for one hell of a tangle when it comes
to some good, some good uh pregame of postgame and

(01:16:01):
halftime talk be fun. But he's he's he's an agitator
enough that he stays in your head even when he's
not playing great basketball.

Speaker 6 (01:16:07):
Well, I mean it's one of those too. That again,
I mean for all of the stuff he does on
the floor, we know about that, but I mean he does,
he does pay attention to the game, and when he
does throw out a compliment, you're you're like, Okay, that
was earned because he's somebody that's not just going to
give that out.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
That's a fact.

Speaker 6 (01:16:26):
So anyway, Ronnie, I'll see you guys. Also to like
I said, in about fifteen minutes, Steve Sparks will join us,
so we'll get into a little bit of Astros talk
here as we get two Sparky and after Sparky, But
work you guys in the conversation. Next seven one three
two one two five seven ninety Again Semon one three

(01:16:46):
two one two five seven ninety Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 5 (01:16:49):
It is Sean.

Speaker 6 (01:16:50):
Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety. Steve Sparks coming up
in ten minutes here for his weekly visit. Rockets one
O three eighty nine losers to the war to end
their season. Astros drop two of three over the weekend
to the White Sox in Chicago and sovereignty the winner
at a very muddy Kentucky Derby on Saturday again seven

(01:17:12):
one three two one two five seven ninety. Ronnie wants
to continue the conversation here, Ronnie, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Good morning guys.

Speaker 26 (01:17:21):
I don't have anything specific about, you know, what players
the Rockets should try to go after. I mean, and
I've been listening to some of the national media. They
want to talk about Booker durant Giannis. But I don't
want to give up a bunch of assets and a
bunch of core players on this team just to get

(01:17:43):
one piece that's thirty six to thirty seven years old,
and then that one piece gets hurt next year and
then we're right down at the bottom again. I think
the way for the Rockets to add to the team
is the way they've been doing it, you know. And
I'm not I don't know which guy we should draft,
and we were going to get a good draft choice,

(01:18:03):
and you know, we guess they're going to be in
the lottery. So I just want to keep adding and
not detract by thinking that one guy is going to
put us over the top.

Speaker 6 (01:18:14):
I appreciate the call, Ronnie. I mean, I don't necessarily
think that it's going to be just a one guy thing.
I don't think they look at it that way as
a matter of fact. I mean, when you get bounced
in the first round, you're not one guy away. You're
probably a guy or two away. And if I had
to guess Sean what the moves will be made this offseason, Booker,

(01:18:35):
Durant Giannis, any of those guys, I just I don't
see that happening. I just I think that they're going
to look at this as let's give this one really good,
honest chance at this and then maybe next year you
do finish a little better than he did this season,
and you are able to make it to the second round,
make it to the Western Conference finals, and then you're

(01:18:57):
saying to yourself at that point, okay, now this is
when we take a huge swing. But I mean, if say,
for Gianness, I mean, the trade proposal has been thrown
out there, and I've seen a men Thompson thrown in
there full stop, immediately right there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
This team, So it depends you're not if if if
a men Thompson's part of the Yannest talks or trade,
you don't want any part.

Speaker 5 (01:19:19):
Now, No, you don't replicate guys like him.

Speaker 6 (01:19:23):
For the way that the broadcast teams were talking about him,
about him being a guy that is a basketball junkie,
will put in the work even when you don't even
ask him to.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
And I mean, he just has that part of his
game already. Can't teach that man. That's that's that's the
old intrinsic stuff I talk about, And it appears he's
got that.

Speaker 6 (01:19:44):
I mean from the descriptions that I heard, I think
it was Game six they were talking about it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Of that's.

Speaker 6 (01:19:51):
I mean, it almost sounds like things that you heard
about Kobe Bryant and about Michael Jordan, Like I'm not
seeing he's gonna be those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Say the same time you hear the drum rat that
type of thing. Self starter does the lonely work. Everybody
else is out doing things and he's out working on
his game. Yes, so he's he's untouchable as far as
you're concerned. Do you do you believe this team the
organization goes all in or do you think they think

(01:20:19):
they got something now and they'll stay out of the
big names this free agency.

Speaker 5 (01:20:23):
I think they'll stay out of the big names.

Speaker 6 (01:20:25):
And the one that I would absolutely stay away from
is everybody, Oh, Kevin Durant.

Speaker 5 (01:20:29):
Kevin Durant.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
He's not Kevin Duranta five years ago anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:20:32):
But what if he could still score twenty five? That's
something that he can do.

Speaker 6 (01:20:37):
Yeah, But I mean in terms of, you know, throwing
the kitchen sink at getting Kevin Durant, well to give
let's taking a step backwards to me, you'd have to
give up a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
More to get you, honest than you would Kevin Durant.
That's my opinion. At this stage of their careers. I'm
now talking about Kevin Durant's overall body of work. What's
he mid thirties now, got to be thirty five? Yeah,
I think he's somewhere in there, and he gets score. Well,
if you're gonna get that guy you've been you're begging
for offense, he will give you offense length and offense,

(01:21:10):
you know. I mean, you're not getting overly physical with
Kevin Durant. You're not adding physicality to your team, but
you are adding the ability for a guy'll next week. Okay,
so it's thirty six now, right, So the ability for
a guy to take over games offensively. He's still got that.
I mean, did he unless he had to average what
twenty five game again this year somewhere in that range?
Didn't he? Unless I unless I'm overstate, and I thought

(01:21:33):
he was. He was uneven. Okay, so mid to twenty
six plus, so he can still score. The question is
what do you got to go to? What are you
gonna have to give to get up? Give up to
get him? I would suggest that if you're going after
the two, the Yannis or him, that you're gonna have
to give up less to get Kevin Durant at the stage,
and you would be honest in my opinion, Yet you're

(01:21:55):
getting a far better long distance shooter. We know that
you know a guy who's gonna and dominate in mid range.
Giannis is still your guy.

Speaker 6 (01:22:03):
But it's also too with Durant. The injuries are a concern.
He's at least twenty miss games this season.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
And where is he on the defensive end at this
stage of his career? Not what he was? I mean
that get stops.

Speaker 6 (01:22:17):
It's subjective when it comes to that too, of oh
this guy's a great defender.

Speaker 5 (01:22:20):
Oh he's not as great a defender.

Speaker 6 (01:22:22):
I mean, defense comes down to do you want to
do it or not, and he at least somewhat seems
like he's willing to.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
You don't have to be blessed with the greatest skill
set on the planet. You got to be blessed with
a do the dirty work defensive guy who it takes.
It's more effort than talent on the defensive end, and
more the will to just say, my guy's not scoring.
It's a commitment to it. It's not a hey man,
you were born with great defensive talent. The one thing
about it is, I can't put height on you. That's

(01:22:50):
a that's you and the DNA of the Good Lord
and your family. But you can teach a guy to
shoot better. You can teach a guy better defensive mechanics
to get down in his stance, or mechanics at the
free throw, and you can't teach height and the want to.
I can't coach that to a guy. He's got to
he's got to want to do it. The question is
are you willing to disrupt what they got going defensively?

(01:23:11):
And I'm saying he's a liability. He's no, he's not
a he's no offensive liability. But you're you're You're not
gonna get the same defender you've probably got in his
mid twenties when he wanted to commit to it. But
you're still gonna get a guy who can take over
games shooting, and we'll spread the floor for you and
give you a little more spacing. There's no doubt. Well,
it's just that you're gonna you don't want to gut
the team for it, and that's it.

Speaker 6 (01:23:32):
Yeah, I mean, if it's coming to something like that,
and if you're Phoenix, why wouldn't you have a huge
ask for it. There there is no reason for you
to get rid of them, and maybe the trade deadline
would be one next year that you would. But it's
just it's also to a question of him, you know,
what does he want at this stage of his career,
he's won championships. Does he want to be able to
be in a situation where he feels like he can

(01:23:53):
make one last good honest try at it, Al Travis
c you guys right there.

Speaker 5 (01:23:57):
But coming up the next.

Speaker 6 (01:23:59):
Little bit of astros, Steve Sparks for his weekly visit
here on the Shawn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
It is the Sean Salisbury Show. It's time for our
eight o'clock weekly visit with Astros broadcaster Steve steven Sparks.
I just died to go formal today, Steven, you ever
get in trouble while your mom she called you, Stephen,
had to. I know you did. You're not the unless
you were there? Were you the kiss ass child? Steve?
Welcome in, buddy. How you doing?

Speaker 12 (01:24:25):
Never got in trouble?

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
You never got in trouble?

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Ever, I don't believe. I don't believe.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
So you were the teacher's pet. Right, Let me ask you,
how many times did you have to do after school
suspension truthfully in your life?

Speaker 26 (01:24:40):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:24:41):
Sean, were of the age. We got, we got, we
got paddled right.

Speaker 12 (01:24:46):
I had a teacher who had a paddle called pistol p.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
And I might I might as well called the pistol Stephen,
because because I own that thing. Yeah I got in trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
Yeah I figured you were. But it was the kind
of trouble that like the teacher still like smirking and said,
he's so cute, he's he's so nice and sweet, but
just a little bit to let everybody know that you
still had it in you. I well believe it because
I know the feeling and you're exactly right. People laugh
and think we're kidding. My vice we had, the vice

(01:25:19):
principal was the swat giver, and it's true. Think about
how times of change, Steve. Now, could you imagine telling
your kid, you're twenty twenty five, with all this going on,
we say, hey, you go down the principal office to
get your aspect with a paddle.

Speaker 5 (01:25:36):
Yeah, not happened.

Speaker 18 (01:25:38):
I remember.

Speaker 12 (01:25:38):
I remember.

Speaker 13 (01:25:39):
At one point they used to do it a how hallway,
like all right, go outside the hall. Still go outside
the hall, bend over and then somewhere halfway through this stuff,
for some reason, things change and they had to get
a witness.

Speaker 12 (01:25:51):
They had to get another teacher from the room next
door to watch, just to make.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
Sure you were an abusive or there wasn't going overboard
type of thing.

Speaker 12 (01:25:58):
Yeah, just to make sure that they didn't whack you
ten times.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
I love it, man. Those were the days Chuck Leaf.
We didn't want to go to Chuck Leaf's office. I
remember the name back in the days, Eastmarks Joys is.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Some guys are a little risty.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
Yeah, like at hockey. Oh, the rister, the one timer, Yeah,
no doubt about it. Steve Rough weekend in some ways.
I mean, you're not supposed to lose to the Chicago
White Sox, but they did. Let's start on Sunday and
we can work our way back your initial thoughts about
eighty seven pitches and Lance mccullor's first appearance and felt

(01:26:38):
like ten years. But what in the last couple of years.
What'd you think about it from the visuals?

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
Well, I can't imagine.

Speaker 10 (01:26:45):
All that was going through his mind nine hundred and
fifteen days since the last time he pitched on a
big league mound, So just just to get to that point,
I mean that was very encouraging, you know, very happy
for him to be able to do what he did.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
I thought the ball came out of his hand really nice.

Speaker 13 (01:27:02):
He talked about not having a great feel as far
as landing his breaking ball, but I thought he threw
some really good curves.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
The slider was a.

Speaker 12 (01:27:10):
Little probably breaking a little earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
Than he thought, but I mean it was huge.

Speaker 12 (01:27:14):
I mean, he can spin the ball as well as anybody,
and the change up was really good.

Speaker 13 (01:27:20):
So the thing that's going to make his change up
and everything else a little better, especially if he throws
maybe a mile per hour or two miles slower than
he did a couple of years ago. Is to make
sure he uses his fastball inside, especially the lefties, to
be able to dot the fastball and get it in
there to get him off of that change up, because
the change up is a great swing and miss pitch.

(01:27:44):
But all in all, you know what he was able
to do. I came away very encouraged making some big
pitches and big moments and getting through that and hearing
his comments afterwards how good he felt, was very encouraging.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Yeah, Steve, when does a guy know I mean, that's
a long time. I guess we're all speculating, but you're
around it and you see it, and I can kind
of speak from when it's a knee injury in football,
when they know that confidence is back. I can put
my leg in the ground, I'm ready to go. Well,
when do you think it kicks into or it's like
you know, as you mentioned the first time, you're kind
of feeling your way through it and all the emotion,
the raw emotion that's going through getting back on the mound.

(01:28:19):
When do you know how long does it take before
you settle in to say I'm in the rotation? This
is who I am and I feel great about it.
How long does that take, Steve? So you almost trust
that your rehab worked? When does that happen?

Speaker 11 (01:28:32):
You know?

Speaker 13 (01:28:33):
I can't get into his head, and I can't imagine
all the thoughts that ran through his mind. I just
know for me, my mind wasn't real clear unless I
exercise some really disciplined things on the mound, like pre
pitch routines and things like that. But I bet he
was thinking about so many doctors and rehab right and

(01:28:54):
you know, then he would, you know, maybe be behind
the count to and oh and scramble to get back
in it. I think he will know that he's all
the way back once he just sees the glove and
hits it, you know, and we can talk about basketball,
we can talk about golf, we can talk about football, Sean.
When you're when you're throwing a leading a guy with
the past, you're not thinking about mechanics.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
You're ripping it and that's it. You You just react.

Speaker 13 (01:29:19):
And I think that's when Lance is at his best,
and he's going to know he's all the way back.
He's not thinking about an injury or rehab or how
long it's been since he's been out there, he's seeing
the glove and hitting it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
That's simple.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
The mechanics are the last thing Steve, you think about
when you're going good, right when you're finally it's because
it's just it's I've worked on these a million now
when you start, when you need to, I'm talking about
that day pitching, I don't want it's like you read
goolf di just Hey, if you can't fit your swing
thoughts on a three by five card, you got too
many of them. So to be able to flood, you know,
get rid of the clutter and you just let it rip.

Speaker 12 (01:29:54):
Yeah, that's a great point, but you have to practice
that show.

Speaker 5 (01:29:57):
Yes exactly, you're on if you're on the if you're
on the.

Speaker 12 (01:29:59):
Driving range, or you're throwing a bullpen, or you're taking
batting practice.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
Or whatever it is. There's part of that that practice
that does need to be mechanics.

Speaker 5 (01:30:09):
You got to agree.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
You may have to go to the iPad or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
It is.

Speaker 13 (01:30:14):
Part of its mechanics, but part of it and maybe
fifty percent and sometimes seventy five percent has to be
on the mental part of what you need to do
to be successful.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
And it's got to be real simple.

Speaker 13 (01:30:27):
It's got to be just seeing the glove and hitting it,
because you can't think about mechanics and compete against the
best players in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
You just can't, right, I mean, you just have to react.

Speaker 13 (01:30:38):
So you have to practice that way, and you have
to be disciplined and learn how the latter stages in
your last couple of rounds in batting practice. Just has
to see the ball and hit the ball, and trust
the work that you did with your mechanics will show up, no.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
Doubt about it. Steve Sparks for his regular Monday eight
o'clock visit here on Sports Talk seven ninety All right, Steve,
maybe from the weekend or maybe just so far the
overall body of work, even though it's early, What are
you most concerned about right now?

Speaker 12 (01:31:11):
I'm not I'm not super concerned. I think some of
these guys are gonna get going. I would say my
biggest probably concern is Jrdan's health.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
Maybe, Yeah, how is where are we with this? Yeah?
What's going on?

Speaker 13 (01:31:24):
Dana said yesterday that we'll know in a day or two,
but he just didn't feel comfortable with his right hand
and batting practice on Saturday, so they just want to
They just want to get whatever's in there out of there.
They don't feel like anything other than res is what's
gonna help him to fill.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
Out his best.

Speaker 13 (01:31:41):
So I think that's probably my biggest concern because he's
your best He's your best hitter, that's plain and simple.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
But I think you were.

Speaker 13 (01:31:48):
Seeing signs with janer Diez coming around the last couple
of weeks starting to drive the ball, Kristen Walker with
more extra bases, the Astros nine hole hitters. Whoever they
put in the nine is going to bang. But they
took Cam Smith out of the lineup last couple of days.
Last time they did that, he was able to reset
and come back for a couple of weeks span and

(01:32:11):
really drive the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
So I just I just feel, and I've.

Speaker 13 (01:32:14):
Said this in our pregame show a couple of times
in the last week, just waiting on three or four
guys to get hot at the same time. You know,
Jeremy Payne has been great. He leaves all sort stops
in war you know, that's including Bobby Whitt. So there's
some guys that are doing some pretty good things. But
there's still three or.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Four guys that we know there's a lot more in there,
Steve and I don't even want to really talk much
about this because I like to throw good stuff out
into that atmosphere and out into space. But let's just
say you had to go without jord On for an
extended amount of time. How capable are they carrying this?
Even though he's bapp struggled this year the long ball.
We get that, but we also know what the result

(01:32:54):
is when he's feeling good and how quickly he can
turn it around. Is this team set up well enough
to deal with an extended amount without him?

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
Think about what they've been able to do.

Speaker 13 (01:33:05):
Jordan hasn't hasn't hit that well all season, right, you know,
and he talks about it. He said, when the numbers
show up, that'll tell you I'm where I need to be.
It's about the numbers. And he's right. You know, they're
still waiting on him. Last year, his May he had
four RBIs. So there's periods sometimes when your superstar goes

(01:33:25):
away a little bit, so to speak. You know that
they're not capitalizing and other guys have to chip in.
And they've got enough guys in their lineup with Esach
and Kristin Walker and Paynya and Altuve and niner Diez
and you know we can we can go up and
down a little bit and say, you know, with a
few of these guys getting warmer, is it heats up?

(01:33:49):
And I trust that they will. You know, I think
they're good hitters, that they'll score plenty of runs with
this pitching. Their pitching's really good.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Sea Sparks regular eight o'clock visit here for a few
more minutes here on the Sean Salisbury Show. ASTROS broadcaster
Steve Zach de Zendel de Zenzo five years from now,
where do you see him? What position? What kind of
player do you see from him? With just just the
early returns from last year and this year his improvement,

(01:34:18):
and where do you see him playing one hundred and
fifty games a year?

Speaker 12 (01:34:23):
Well, I see a lot of signs of him coming
alive at the play, yes for sure.

Speaker 13 (01:34:28):
And I think with more playing time, anybody who's young
is able to do this with only playing two or
three times a week, that's that's a great indication that
they can make adjustments, they can stay ready. You know,
they're working very hard behind the scenes to be ready.
And I just love how athletic he is. You know,
he can play different positions. He moves really well. You know,

(01:34:50):
he's six foot six inches.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
Time with Steve the first I don't mean to interrupted.
The first time I stood next to him, I'm six
five too. Oh you know, you see stuff say that's
a big cat on TV. I'm six five about two
forty and I stood next to him. He's an outside linebacker,
he really is. That's an outside linebacker. This got movement
like a wide receiver.

Speaker 5 (01:35:11):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
It's it's a freak. Well, nowadays our linebackers can run
like those guys and are they're just as athletic. But
I was actually shocked, not surprised, shocked when I stood
next to him. I didn't realize he was that big.

Speaker 12 (01:35:23):
He's got that Jeff Samarga type body.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
Sure, yes, and even even a little thicker yeah, yes,
no doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:35:31):
Yeah, he's very athletic.

Speaker 12 (01:35:33):
So I don't know what kind of opportunities will be there.

Speaker 13 (01:35:35):
I just know he's gonna he's gonna work to a
degree where he's going to maximize his talent. And I
think he's got a lot of talent. So what whatever's
there for him? I think he'll take advantage of. And
I think that's what you you get really encouraged about.
And those are the guys that you invest in. Sean, Yes,
long term, short term, whatever it is. But once you

(01:35:57):
get to know guys a little bit personal only and
you see the way they go about their business, you
invest in those players.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
Hey, Steve, quickly for you. I know you've got a
lot going on this uh, this team. You know, people
talk about windows opening and closing right a lot of
you know, with Springer gone and Corea gone and then Verlin.
I mean it happens every year we go through this conversation.
But with this, with this influx of young players and
bringing up parades in and who's playing it and just
some changes and it looks different. But window wide open?

(01:36:28):
Half open? I mean, champions is this championship caliber run
continue with the current roster as it's set up forget
trades in any of that. How it's set up. Is
the is the window still wide open for you?

Speaker 13 (01:36:40):
I think just from what I see that the Astros
are as good as anybody in the American League. I
think once they start hitting right now, they're a game
over five hundred and they get to five six, seven
games over five hundred and just grind away through this summer.

Speaker 12 (01:36:55):
I think they're set up for not only a regular
season type of winning, but.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
Also playoff winning.

Speaker 13 (01:37:01):
When you look at Hunter Brown and from Er Valdez
and whoever you're going to slot in the three hole,
I think they're set up for the playoffs very well too.
So I think they've got as good of a chance
as anybody in the American League, because I don't see
anybody running away with anything. The Astros won the series
against the Tigers, they won a series against the Mets,
they won a series against the San Diego Padres. They

(01:37:22):
can compete with anybody, and they can certainly pitch with anybody,
and I think that's what's gonna matter down the road.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
And Steve with that the record, I mean, you know,
sometimes what is the record saying they are considering the
fact that Jordan hasn't got going, We're waiting for Christian Walker.
He sent his hard I mean, I actually feel pretty
good about where they are pitching, for sure, other than
a couple hiccups, but I feel pretty damn good about
where they are, considering they haven't exploded two or three
games in a row much at all, and the big

(01:37:50):
Boppers still aren't going yet.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
I think you're exactly right.

Speaker 13 (01:37:54):
I think you could be pretty confident that's this pitching,
barring injuries, are going to stay very sound.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
I think their bullpen.

Speaker 13 (01:38:04):
Has a sub three year I think, second best in
the league, and their starting pitching is really consistent.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
And once you get these.

Speaker 13 (01:38:11):
Guys, if they if they're thinking about they're getting ready
to go on a seventeen game run with no off days,
and they go to a six man rotation, give these
guys even a little bit more of a breather. They
go out there more fresh. I think you're gonna see
even better from the from the rotation. So it's pretty
exciting in that regard. But I don't think anybody in
the American League is gonna run away from anything.

Speaker 1 (01:38:31):
I just don't see. I don't see a clear pet
favorite right now.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
It's gonna make for a hell of a run too,
a hell of a competition and fun baseball season to watch. Yeah,
it sure is, Steve great. Hopefully we won't we'll get
we'll get great news and it won't be long news
about Jordan Alvarez and get him going. We appreciate you,
my man, and we'll do it again next Monday. And
thanks for joining us as always.

Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
All right, thanks for having me Sean.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
You bet that's great. Steve Sparks, good information, good stuff.
Let's come back and talk. Dan was concerned about Jordon
all along and we even asked the question here is
there some bothering him because it felt odd not having power?
Which one was it? And should we be concerned about
the other stuff, not even the injury about Jordon or

(01:39:15):
is it just injury related? We'll come back and discuss
Sports Talk seven ninety. Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (01:39:22):
It is Sean Salisbury Show Special. Thanks to Steve Sparks
for his weekly visit. You missed any of that the
free new and improved iHeartRadio app Preset number one. You
know where to have us here Sports Talk seven ninety
right there at the top. But good stuff from him.
You can go back listen to that. Rockets season is
over one O three eighty nine, losers to the Warriors

(01:39:45):
in Game seven. Astros, we're just talking about it with
Steve Sparks. They are in Milwaukee to start up a
series after losing two of three over the weekend to
the White Sox before we get to al on the
south side. One of the things you just threw out
there about on I mean, it makes sense now that
there was something going on in and it also too,

(01:40:05):
I mean, Sean, this kind of just flared up like
it seems like he's been bothered by something because of
the results that were not getting out of his bat
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
Yeah, it's well, it's not normal for us to see
this unless he's hurt. Right, It's not all of a
sudden he just didn't wake up one morning. Man, I
have no power anymore. I'm not I'm not swinging it
the pitches I normally swing out of the patients are
hitting the ball the other way. And so we we
have it was something wrong. I know we've asked it is.
You think he's hurt, Lobby damned if he's been playing

(01:40:36):
through something, And if it is, what in the hand
of the wrist? Hasn't he gone through this before on
one of those hands or wrists after thumb or something
I want to say, a hand or thumb or wrist
injury before yet, right, So hopefully it'll get handled and
you know, him not being in the lineup the last
you know, a few days to get him up and rolling,

(01:40:58):
because they will come in bunches like he's like Steve
said in Jordon has admitted that when the numbers come,
you'll know I'm seeing it like I want to see it.
So I don't think it's a matter of if for him.
You know, some guys, it's if this guy can hit.
If he when it was Jake Myers, well if he
could hit, well, he's raking. Now what a game he
had over the weekend, huh, and good on him. But

(01:41:19):
with Jordon, it's not a matter of if it's win.
The question is win and how long with this? So
let's hope it's not a long time, but hope that
rest gives it what it needs for him to come
out smoking. Because considering where they are, Dan at one
game over five hundred and I know Seattle is a
good baseball club, and the Rangers made some offensive changes
and stuff with their I think it was they call

(01:41:41):
it the offensive coordinator and they're like a football move.
But you know, are they planning to get to the
next level with their bats which got him a World
Series a couple of years ago? This is going to
be a hell of a hell of a run and
you're gonna need Jordan for it. And when I asked
Steve about how long could you go? Now, they'll survive it.
But I wouldn't think of all the things that he

(01:42:02):
was on your Bengo car to wish list, is that
you had to operate without Jordon for seventy games like
you would had to with Kyle Tucker. Last year they
proved that they could. I don't think you want to
have to do that two years in a row. But
when Yainter who start to come around and Walker and
yord On healthy and swinging the bat like they all
have in their careers, at some point, it's it's this

(01:42:28):
is we haven't seen their twelve out of fourteen, fifteen
out of twenty run yet it's coming because their pitching
is good enough to sustain it. Now they just got
to get right. But yord On out for any extended
amount of time as a bummer. But if he comes
back and it's one hundred percent healthy or close, we
may see a different guy at the plate, which will
be nice.

Speaker 6 (01:42:46):
And it's also I mean sometimes it's a hey play
through it. It's not that bad.

Speaker 2 (01:42:50):
I can deal with it. It's it's all of those
Most of the time, those when you're just kind of hurt,
not injured, there's a big difference.

Speaker 6 (01:42:56):
And that's why I'm wondering if this finally, if it
reached a crescendo with them, or he was just like
all right, like there's there's a pattern here, this is
this is going way because yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
And what you do is you you protect him from himself.
So did I know you're grinding? Let's if you're not
feeling right, batting price, let's shut this down for a
minute and let's see if we can get this right.
I don't need the grind in early May. I need
the grind in August and September. And that's where you
kind of start to try to You just don't want
to wait till August for him to be who he is, Right.

Speaker 6 (01:43:29):
I'll be better late than never, but you feel like
you're gonna need him before then, especially the way the
Mariners are something you don't You.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
Don't want to have to chase that down at that
late and get him going. So let's just hope it's
earth sooner rather than later, because when he gets going,
you you just want to stay with them, striking distance.
You know, going into the weekend or Saturday with a
three or three and a half game lead or whatever
it was for the marriage, that that's not the big deal.
How you're playing and you're will be a big reason
why if this team goes where. And Steve said, and

(01:43:56):
I believe there's a heavy favorite in the American League.
There's about six seven teams pretty much bunched together. And
I think he's right. Three of them are in this division.
M hm, they're pretty damn you know, and the other
we know that the others that are gonna hang around
the Yankees and the Red Sox, even though the Red
Sox are playing five hundred baseball right now. But you
can look around and see the teams. But you'll go
into last week at the season, I'll guarantee you're gonna

(01:44:18):
be sitting here saying, oh, six teams can win it
where you're probably by that time gonna look at two
teams and maybe at third if you're lucky, and the
National League say, can they beat that team in Los Angeles?
How's the team in Philly doing? Does Atlanta come around?
Have the Padres stayed within striking distance of the Dodgers?
That whole all that conversation. But the there's a lot
of there's no dominant team like going in all the

(01:44:40):
Dodgers are gonna be dominant in the American League. You know,
if if Cole was there, we'd have probably leaned a
little to the Yankees. But the truth of the matter
is they're gonna they're they're gonna run into it in
the East. They're gonna have a hell of a time
because that's there's a lot of good baseball players in
that division.

Speaker 6 (01:44:55):
Yeah, the Yankees not shying away from struggles either, as
they found that out over the weekend against the Rays.

Speaker 5 (01:45:02):
And then you mentioned the Red Sox. They's lost Tristan Kazis,
so you know what that's rough.

Speaker 2 (01:45:07):
Lou Marlone, who's obviously one of the broadcast guy he
goes on there and does the games and had been doing,
you know, radio in Boston forever, was talking and I
think it was Lou who said it pretty sure that
he thinks Raffi can play a good first base. So
do not be surprised if you start to see him,
you know, field some ground balls and play first base.

(01:45:29):
Where take the DH roll away from him, because he
obviously likes to play the field and you're not playing
third base with Bregman there now, So if you want
that this is an opportunity, you know, to get off
that bench and not DH and go play first base.
It won't surprise me. And judging from that, I think
that Lou may be onto something that you know, if
you want to get him in the lineup, this may

(01:45:49):
be an opportunity for him to play there. And you
know this is going to happen to a lot of
teams this year. Man, how do you survive when you
lose a piece to your puzzle and the astros are
going to go through it too? You hope not a
long extended time and you sure s I'll hope it's
not thirty or forty games or twenty games with the
ord on that this is just a need a little
bit of rest and rest, but and get back at
it coming this coming week.

Speaker 6 (01:46:10):
Got to need them for sure, Al Brandon, see you
guys right there. We'll work you guys in also to
do want to get into a little bit of Lance
McCullers here as we continue here in the eight o'clock
hour here Sports Talk seven ninety It is Sean Salisbury Show,
Sports Talks seven to ninety. Rockets lose Game seven last
night to the Warriors one O three eighty nine. Their

(01:46:30):
season is over. Astros drop two or three over the
weekend to the White Sox there in Milwaukee taking on
the Brewers and college football Michigan expected to suspend coach
Sharon Moore a couple of games in the twenty twenty
five season, self imposed punishment for the advanced scouting case.
Of course, you know the counter stallion stuff that happened

(01:46:53):
a couple of years ago. So Sharon Moore going to
be taking some time away from the field again. Three
two one two five seven ninety is the number two
jump aboard of been talking Rockets a little bit of
Astros to Al on the south side once away in
here get into some Rockets, Al, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
Hey? What's going on? Great show? Sean? Okay, I good weekend?

Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
Can you yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:47:17):
I got you out and clear. Thanks man, Hey, Sean.

Speaker 1 (01:47:21):
I want to talk about this man.

Speaker 27 (01:47:23):
First of all, being pushed sportsman. Give kudos to my
Rockets man seven seed h they got over the hunk
to get to the playoffs for siting.

Speaker 28 (01:47:32):
That year with Sean to me in the room, we
have a long time. You're shone, and I believe you
read it and takes me the dept in the room
with me. When I took away Sean, it's game seven.
Were the seventeen no one.

Speaker 1 (01:47:53):
You're not sure study seasons seven.

Speaker 27 (01:47:57):
So when I think from Sean forward you can lose
to this, I'll make a trade.

Speaker 1 (01:48:03):
For a superstar. I mean that top guy. I don't
care what I got to do with. Let's be real.

Speaker 27 (01:48:08):
The last times a Hall of Famous got two of
the live boss itself, we can't sell them. We're not
a settling in city. We go back to a luncher one.
We got Client Drexer in a basketball game today. These
guys are too talented. You can have only so much defense.

Speaker 7 (01:48:29):
What you do is mix it.

Speaker 29 (01:48:30):
You get your elite.

Speaker 27 (01:48:32):
Offense with it, and I just think no one should
be touched.

Speaker 28 (01:48:35):
I like that friench and Loon, I like Steven Adams,
I like I mean Thompson or whatever.

Speaker 27 (01:48:41):
But you gotta mix a dominant, dominant, elite superstar.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
So you just got to hang a position.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
I appreciate the call out. I don't think there's any
doubt you need to have that dude who takes over
a game in any you need more than one, and
I do believe you need more than one in this
n be, don't you.

Speaker 5 (01:49:00):
I mean, I think you already have one on this team, right,
so you.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
Got to go out and get another. The question is
what are you willing to part with to get it?
It's going to be it won't be if we're talking
about a guy like Giannis. It's not going to be
cheap meaning assets. It's just not. And but but I
don't think that this franchise would part with a men

(01:49:28):
Thompson right now?

Speaker 5 (01:49:28):
To you, I would not.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
Yeah, I don't. I don't see what I think. It's
probably the first thing you say is here's who's available,
and here's you already know the one that's done, I mean,
you know. And then I think there's some who believe
you can build with shn Gound. But there's the other
guy that people are gonna want. He's a hell of
a player, and you mentioned Raymond Green and you heard
about his respect for him, and this guy was an

(01:49:51):
All Star this year. But the question is here, here's
the problem where we all get into. If you go
get one and lose a lot, are you better? Are
you better take four? Or five guys away and two
draft picks, guys who have significant contributions throughout the season
to this team and get rid of him. Let's say

(01:50:13):
that two starters or a third starter, one of them Shingoon,
another's Jalen Green, another's Jabari Smith, and two first rounders
and another player and Giannis comes here? Are they are
they immediately better?

Speaker 6 (01:50:28):
See I'm even gonna throw Jabari Smith Junior in there
into the untouchable. Yeah, because you would have never said
that six months ago, No very few did. But I mean,
I think he was a guy that gained a ton
of confidence in his offensive game in this playoffs elevated.

Speaker 2 (01:50:42):
Yes, he looks like the reason they drafted with was
the fifth pick of the draft or something like that.
I think he was up there right, Yeah, but he
he looks like it's it's taken a minute, but he's
turned a little bit of a corner.

Speaker 1 (01:50:53):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
So the question is by subtraction, are you adding to
it make it better?

Speaker 11 (01:51:00):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:51:01):
In order to get a Yiannis? And I don't care
if you say Booker or Kevin Drant There's certain guys
are gonna obviously you're gonna need more for But does
one of them at the expense of losing five assets
and a couple draft picks, because it's gonna you're not
You're not getting You're not getting them for you know,

(01:51:21):
three bodies. It's going to take more than that, right,
Are you making your team better? Is the addition by subtraction?
Work with this team depends? I mean, okay, who else
would you go get that's not Yannis. It's going to
dominate the franchise. It's going to take you to another level.
I mean people have thrown out you know, Devin Booker. Okay,
I'd love to have, But what is Devin Booker won? Well,

(01:51:44):
he had, he was with his team when they had
We're two up and had a chance to take out
in the lost hand, didn't. But and he's a good player,
all star player, really good scorer. But the question is,
if you had to give up three or so assets,
solid ones to bring Booker in, is your team immediately?
But you get my point. I'm not saying they are,
they aren't. What where's the line in the sand that says, okay,

(01:52:07):
we went and got this guy, but we gave up
these guys. Do you automatically say we were we are
better now Jannis and not having to give up a
men Thompson and Jabari Smith and you give up a
whole bunch of assets and you give up you know,
three or four players including Jalen Green. Are you better?

(01:52:28):
Maybe the question is where is that line? And at
this I don't know where it is because I've seen
stars go and things don't get different. Then you see
what happens when a guy what's my guy in uh Utah?
It's not playing in the guard from the.

Speaker 5 (01:52:45):
Jazz Wow Mitchell huh Mitchell Donovan Mitchell.

Speaker 2 (01:52:48):
Yeah, the guys that go places and make a difference
somewhere else, right terce elk or we we've we've got there.
You know, you get Paul George type trades. I mean
there's trades that go on out there. Say you get
some of the hard and stuff. What happened when they
were Brooklyn? I mean, crap happens right when I went
to Philadelphia. So which one is? This is Yannis for

(01:53:10):
a bunch of piece is worth? Well? Are you? Are
you back to square one? Are you back to where
you are when you left? You got a superstar, but
you've diminished your team enough to where you're not as
deep as you want to be. I don't know what
the answer is right now. We're too early into the offseason. Dan,
you're trying to just soak in. Okay, they lost to
Golden State, blah blah blah, but we know the names.

(01:53:32):
But do we know the name to get? But do
you know the names to give up to make sure
you're not losing so much of your team that you're
back to a fifty plus win team and losing in
the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (01:53:42):
Those are those conversations they're going to start happening today, right, agreed?
All right, if we do decide to upgrade, who can
we lose and still feel like we're in good position
to again.

Speaker 2 (01:53:56):
If we give this guy or two or three up,
we're still in better shape by bringing this certain guy
in and getting rid of it. Now. Listen, they've accumulated
a lot of assets for for reasons like this.

Speaker 5 (01:54:11):
What are they going to do with them? Don't just
sit on them?

Speaker 6 (01:54:14):
I mean, is you even heard Draymond Green say earlier?
I mean, you're on the up until you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
So.

Speaker 6 (01:54:19):
I just I think if you're still on that escalator, well,
I mean eventually it's going to have to reach a point.

Speaker 2 (01:54:24):
So there's a step or a platform, and you got
you're gonna steal like that escalator. You got to step out.
You know you got a young kid. Okay, ready, step
step out on that.

Speaker 5 (01:54:33):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:54:34):
Where's that? Are they there yet? Do they need to
Is everybody on the same escalator or are they going
to have to take that step off and say, okay,
we're going to go in a little direction here that
we think is going to better us. But you got
to know when you're when the subtraction, does the addition
immediately enhance your team, regardless of what the subtraction.

Speaker 6 (01:54:51):
I've said it. Offensively, the team that you have right
now is not good enough, which is more scoring on
the offensive end I'm talking about. I'm talking about that
you blink and the guy every single night you plug
him in and it's twenty three, twenty five, twenty seven,
but efficient points at the right time, is my point.

Speaker 2 (01:55:10):
Who is that guy for them? Well, it should be
dream Dreamond Green, it should be Jalen Green. But that's
the problem. Well, you saw six or seven times it
was yeah, yeah, And it's not even just six or
seven times.

Speaker 6 (01:55:22):
You saw that numerous times all throughout the season and
throughout his Rocket's career. I think that's been the frustration
that people have had. There's not I think I know
it is.

Speaker 2 (01:55:29):
He's been great. He did the extremes for him right.
Sometimes when he's good, he's really frigging good, and he
can you know, NBA player of the Month type good yeap.
When he's not going good, you see this and you
say this, dude's just another guy.

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
Who is he?

Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
Oh, that's what they're asking it today too. I guars no,
they are.

Speaker 6 (01:55:50):
And it's also too I think probably factoring into their
evaluation when it comes to this, and maybe that's something
he makes.

Speaker 2 (01:55:56):
It easy for them to consider off season stuff. Unfortunately,
he's exposed himself.

Speaker 5 (01:56:02):
Fine, I don't think there's any doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:03):
Yeah, And I didn't say made it easy for him
to get traded because I still like him and we
hear biscuit talk all time. I don't run from people
when they've had a bad seat. I just don't. But
he opened up the can of worms for you to
question it is my point. Yeah, if he goes out
there place because of his regular season improvement, he goes
out there and puts his foot on their throat, and
he's the reason, a big reason why they advanced Game
six and said, you know what I'm saying, if all

(01:56:24):
of a sudden, you come out of saying now that
dude looks like a star, we're having a different conversation today.
Even if they lost, the fact that they lost and
it didn't happen. What you've just opened a little bit
of Pandora's box. Now the question is do you shut
it back up and lock it and dead bullets in
and we got he's got us, It's gonna be fine,
or you tempted what's inside? And that's where we are

(01:56:46):
now with that.

Speaker 6 (01:56:46):
Yeah, I think that's something that definitely, you know, warrants
a little bit more discussion on that, So we'll have
that also some astros discussion. Like I said about Lance McCullers, Brandon,
see you right there, Get you involved, Tony as well.
Get you guys here on the show as we continue
along here Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety. It
is Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Socks seven ninety. Rocket season

(01:57:10):
is over. They fall to the Warriors one O three
eighty nine. Astros in Milwaukee taking on the Brewers after
they lose two or three over the weekend to the
White Sox and sovereignty winner at the Kentucky Derby. Continue
the Astros in Rockets conversation here if you want a
weigh in seven one three, two, one two five seven
ninety Brandon does Good morning, Brandon.

Speaker 29 (01:57:33):
Goodying, Sean, Good morning Dan. How are you Sean Owayne
minster you Friday? How was your weekend?

Speaker 2 (01:57:40):
It was nice? Thank you. I'm doing well. It was
good and nice day off. I appreciate the compliment. I
was in Dallas for the weekend and getting some stuff done,
so I appreciate. It's good to be back. The weather
rain a couple of days, was sunny day and a
half or so two days, so it was a little
bit of both. But it was pleasant and really really nice.

Speaker 18 (01:58:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 29 (01:58:02):
Uh, I do not want to say this.

Speaker 1 (01:58:09):
Say it.

Speaker 5 (01:58:10):
Yeah, we're here for you, Buddy.

Speaker 29 (01:58:15):
Locketts cannot win that game.

Speaker 6 (01:58:20):
Yeah, unfortunately true, and they didn't win that game, as
I mentioned, but it was it was a frustrating watch
for sure, Brandon.

Speaker 29 (01:58:30):
But the Astros once my cars stay good.

Speaker 1 (01:58:37):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:58:37):
It was nice to see Lance back out there, wasn't it.
But I mean, you also didn't like giving up a
four run lead. Yeah, all right, so Rockets are done, Astros,
you're still feeling good about them?

Speaker 29 (01:58:57):
Yeah, making Rockets can do it again in that chair.

Speaker 5 (01:59:00):
All right, Well there we go.

Speaker 3 (01:59:01):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:59:01):
Well, Brandon, it's always great to catch up with you.
Hopefully had an awesome weekend. We'll uh, we'll catch up
with you tomorrow.

Speaker 29 (01:59:07):
Okay, we went somewhere. We went to the hotel and
watched the Astros game.

Speaker 5 (01:59:14):
Okay, Yeah, Jake Myers was good on Saturday. That was fun.

Speaker 29 (01:59:20):
Did bomber mag it? It was Jake Myers Day.

Speaker 5 (01:59:24):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (01:59:24):
Rake Myers Day is more like it on Saturday because
he was absolutely putting good, good barrels on the baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:59:30):
Imagine going through a game and not you needing a
single for the cycle and you couldn't get it, but
you doubled and tripled and homewar twice. Are you driving
seven that day too? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:59:40):
Yeah, thirteen total bases. It was a day.

Speaker 2 (01:59:43):
Yeah, it sure was. That's it.

Speaker 6 (01:59:45):
All right, Brandon, appreciate hearing from me as always, So
let's continue the conversation Tony and Angleton wants to wag in, Tony,
what's going on?

Speaker 24 (01:59:53):
Good morning, gentlemen, post wartem on the Rockets kind of
what as I expected. The series is itself.

Speaker 1 (02:00:06):
Our point guard continuously gets gets abused. Guys, that's it's
just he gets abused defensively. The teams that win in
this league the point guards. You gotta be done it.
You gotta be dynamic at point guard.

Speaker 11 (02:00:19):
We're not.

Speaker 1 (02:00:21):
Ching goon. Coming back up to the compete level bothered
me last night. Really, it's a game seven. You're at home,
you're home, fans, you're in Game.

Speaker 19 (02:00:29):
Seven's a classic case of a of a veteran team
just abusing a young team. We don't have any alpha dogs, man,
we don't have anybody to grab somebody by the everybody's
sitting away from each other on the bench when they're
going well, they're patting each other on the back. When
it gets tough is when you got to dig in.
They just need some alpha dogs on this team. It's
it's that got to some talent. I don't know who

(02:00:50):
they keep, I don't know who they move, but uh,
the compete level last night bothered me.

Speaker 1 (02:00:54):
Man, it bothered me a lot. It's game seven.

Speaker 19 (02:00:58):
You gotta just this is You gotta play like it's
the last game of your life like the last game
You're ever gonna play, right, don't you?

Speaker 1 (02:01:05):
In the game seven. I mean, I know injuries are
a factor and everything, but they weren't healthy either.

Speaker 19 (02:01:10):
Jimmy Butler was nicked up, and he played like he
played like like it was like it was a seventh game.

Speaker 1 (02:01:16):
Curry's thirty seven years old, Draymond Green played. Turns out.

Speaker 19 (02:01:20):
I'm just saying, they got they got, the compete levels
got to go way up, and they need an alpha dog.

Speaker 1 (02:01:25):
If that's if that's the guy from Milwaukee Joannie. Uh.
Forgive me for trying to pronounce his last name, but
you're talking guy that that guy, that guy is, That
guy is a dog man. He's a compete. He's a compete.

Speaker 19 (02:01:38):
He's a competitor and he he he, He just about
brought his team over the finish line in this last
series and they you know, they were throwing some barbs
at him and he was coming right back. That's the
kind of guy on this team. That's what I want
on a compete level. There there's there's there's plenty of talent,
but talent can't get his talent alone can't do it.

Speaker 5 (02:01:58):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (02:02:00):
Yeah, same to you, Tony appreciate the call. I mean
that was something at the end of the game that
I mean, you know some of those questionable non calls,
whatever it might be, that it's a all right, hey,
look you can do that in game five, you can
do it in game four. You still got other games,
like I need you back on the defensive end. And
not to single out Albern Shinguen because it wasn't just him.

(02:02:20):
I mean, you know there's the Fred turnover late where
you're just kind of like this team knows their beat
and they're playing like they know that they're beat.

Speaker 2 (02:02:30):
I personally, when you compete level and Tony makes a
good point. I hate the fact that that even has
to come up.

Speaker 1 (02:02:39):
I do.

Speaker 2 (02:02:42):
And Tony makes a good and when somebody's you know,
lack of seeing it or an others see it different,
and I get what he's saying, the you know, an
alpha dog that says the refusal to let something like
that happen whether you win or lose. And so I
I the fact that it has to come up because
I know that and I say it all the time.

(02:03:02):
Those those type of things should be ingrained in you.
You can't I can't coach compete, buddy, I just can't.
If you have to coach compete, you're you're in trouble.
You will be in trouble. Teams that have to be
coached into competing at any level from seventh grade, from
seventh grade Katie, Texas to now being in a pro

(02:03:25):
you're not gonna last long. You'll win some and energetic.
You're coaching energy and proper mechanics and all that and
giving them something to hang their hat on. One thing.
But if I got to coach competitiveness and work, I
don't know many coaches that can survive that, because you
just can't. That's got to be something that when you
put your roster together. That's a no brainer. That's the

(02:03:47):
easiest part of it. It's just you can't coach it
because I mean it's it's either you got to be
that's exactly right, and I shouldn't have to coach it
on the data bey, Hey, let more effort.

Speaker 5 (02:03:56):
I should be.

Speaker 2 (02:03:57):
I want guys on tick spun truth that will it's
the norm. Yeah, and that I got to grab them
by the back of the jersey and say back off
a little bit. I've said it before. Give me a
bunch of those guys that I got to back off
as a post hotel. Now, I don't know. I mean,
I think they knew the significance of it, but at
times it looked like Golden State recognized significance of it

(02:04:19):
far more and they played like it.

Speaker 9 (02:04:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:04:22):
Well, it's proof is in the pudding, and they definitely
proved it last night. Nine o'clock hour is straight ahead
here on the Sean Salisbury Show. Lance McCullers. Maybe a
little bit too much put on them too quickly. We'll
discuss right here Sean Salisbury Show. Indeed, it is nine
o'clock hour here on the Sean Salisbury Show. Rockets season

(02:04:42):
is over. They lose one o three eighty nine to
the Warriors. Astros lose two of three to the White Sox.
Over the weekend, they're going to take on the Brewers
for an upcoming series and sovereignty winning the Kentucky Derby
seven one three two one two five seven ninety number
to join us and Don wants to wait in here.

Speaker 5 (02:05:03):
Don, good morning, Hey, good morning Hey.

Speaker 30 (02:05:07):
As a professional, myself as an official, I watched the
game at the bar with my co officials last night
and to sit there and watch Trayvon Green do exactly
what he's doing to these people. You know, an extended
arm is an automatic ejection. Automatic, there's no questions about it.
I don't know what the officials were looking at, but

(02:05:27):
I'm going to tell you I'm really embarrassed for those.

Speaker 12 (02:05:31):
Guys last night.

Speaker 30 (02:05:32):
I'm really disappointed. And the players were not coming to
his defense last night and maybe just punching Green in
the mouth and just go ahead and get it ejected themselves.
And I'm also offended why the coach did not come
on that court and get it technical himself and protect
his player that just got mugged by Green. We watched
that game last night on five different occasions. Green set there,

(02:05:55):
mugged our guy. Now, if we're afraid to go in
there because of Green, then and you know that's our problem.
Maybe we need to get maybe Dennis Rodman to come back,
go ahead and take care of him. I'm not really
too sure about what the deal is going to be,
but something's got to happen with Trayvon Green. What's it
going to take Lebron James out for the season, some
other high profile guy that's getting paid fifty million dollars

(02:06:17):
a year to get he out for the season because
Trayvon Green extended his arms and touched some guy in
the face. What's it going to take guys, Hey, I'll
just hang up and listen and hey, it is what
it is later, all right.

Speaker 5 (02:06:30):
I appreciate it. Don I mean, we know who Draymond Green.

Speaker 2 (02:06:34):
I'm assuming he's talking about the jump shot where Draymond
got fouled on the way up and came down and
basically extended his hand and his arm into his face.
The first part of that into Van Vliet, the first
part of that, it was a legitimate the ball blocked
on the way up, ball comes out. It was his
over excessive part of the way down. He could have
controlled that, There's no doubt. He went to the open

(02:06:54):
hand push got him in the face, There's no doubt,
and through his arm, you know. So it was first half, Yeah,
the first part of that file and coming down boom,
and it was it was a prototypical draywond Green move.

Speaker 6 (02:07:09):
Oh, it's it's his go to move. I mean, it's
he is in every sense of the word, a wrestling heel.

Speaker 5 (02:07:15):
He is the guy that.

Speaker 2 (02:07:16):
Loves uses it to his advantage. Absolutely, he does, and
he doesn't care.

Speaker 6 (02:07:21):
It's it's what fuels him, and obviously it fuels the
team as well. But I mean, in terms of what
you were saying of guys backing them up, I mean,
the only thing I can think of is, again, I
go back to Game five where you have a Men
Thompson where he's about to start getting into it with
Gary Payton Junior, and you have Dylan Brooks of all people,
coming and saying we're not doing that tonight, like that
takes us out of our game.

Speaker 5 (02:07:42):
That's not gonna be something that we do.

Speaker 6 (02:07:44):
Just go to the line, make your free throw, let's
keep it moving because we're fighting for our season. That's
the only thing that I kind of think of at
that point is that the guys say the edict was
out of We're not gonna get involved with that guy.
We're not gonna get involved in this. Yeah, but you
can't let the guy bully you. But I said, there's
got to be there's probably a little more somewhere in

(02:08:05):
the middle. I don't think I need somebody to come
out there and three guys have to punch Draymond on
the face.

Speaker 2 (02:08:09):
Although we'd all like to you, especially don't want it
to happen with somebody that you know going in with
Draymond Green and you're trying to fight and scratch, like
you said, to save your season and move forward. But
you also can't allow him to dictate everything that goes on.
The refs allow him to get away with a lot
they do. And was he fouled early in it? Yeah,

(02:08:32):
was when he came down. Could he have prevented that
arm extension basically open hand moved to the face, of
course he could have. So, but I do get Dylan Brooks,
who you know, like you said, of all people, but
you're doing everything you could coach. Just tell players all
the time, don't get caught up in that stuff. But sometimes,
whether it was yesterday or another time, at times you

(02:08:55):
are going to have to get Sometimes it's a slug fest,
sometimes it's a pillow fight, and sometimes it's just a
flat out survival of the fittest. And sometimes you do
have to match their stuff with yours. But you can't
do it if you listen. If you were pissed as
a pitcher and you hit one guy, but all of
a sudden you say, you know, he gets ejected and
three more guys come in and throwing because it's one
of those they get you're in the long run, you're

(02:09:17):
really not helping your team. But there also is in
certain games a message that absolutely has to be sent.
Golden State does it all the time. He does it
all the time. They're just fortunate to overcome it. And
yet all that being said, he still is a pretty
solid basketball player. He's just annoying as hell. I don't

(02:09:37):
disagree in some way, shape or form what don saying.
At some point in time, the old school goon needs
to come in and the Rick Mahorns of the world.
There's one guy in your Ross's has son checking you
the whole game that's not happening today. That somewhere along
the line. If the red you do have, I'm a
big believer in it, and at times I'm a believer
in an eye for an eye, and sometimes you got

(02:09:59):
to give what gold out, especially if it's not from
one of your guys who is start. It's nice to
have a six or seventh guy that can come in
off the bench and do stuff like that. It gives
him a taste of his own medicine. They wouldn't be
at the expense of costing you a star in the game.
I hate to say it, but those guys exist, and
at some point in time the bully needs punched in

(02:10:19):
a face. I don't know if that's literally or figuratively,
or maybe both, but I know he gained great respect.
But the problem is he was still able to impose
all the stuff that he normally does on them, and
then Buddy Heel played out of his mind.

Speaker 5 (02:10:32):
I would argue the Rockets already have those guys, but
I mean again, I.

Speaker 2 (02:10:36):
Just putting it to work. There you go, being able
to use it at efficient times, saying you know what,
I'm gonna have to sacrifice that this can't happen today.
I'm gonna take on a different role. I'm not telling
him what to do, but at some point in time,
you know, when you when you get through teams, there's
a physicality, even in basketball, there's a physicality that made
you earn your win. And those are some things a

(02:11:00):
game to game feel, and the Golden State Warriors do
that about as well as anybody.

Speaker 10 (02:11:04):
That they do.

Speaker 6 (02:11:05):
Let's get in a little bit of astros, says Lance McCuller.
Is through yesterday and is he having too much put
on him already. We'll discuss that here. It is a
Sean Salisbury show. It's a Sean Salisbury show, Sports Talk.
Seven to ninety, Rockets falling Game seven to the Warriors
one to oh three eighty nine. Astros drop two of
three over the weekend to the White Sox. They're gonna

(02:11:26):
get the Brewers coming up for a three game series
and Scotti Scheffler winner at the Byron Nelson thirty one
under on the weekend for him some one three, two, one, two,
five seven nine the number to jump aboard. See some
of you want to get in there, but let's get
into some Astros here. As Lance mccullors Junior gets his
first start of twenty twenty five, first one since Game

(02:11:49):
three twenty twenty two World Series three and two thirds yesterday.
Some good, some bad, I mean pretty much. I think
what you would expect from a guy who hadn't pitched
in over two years, and I mean left the game
with an opportunity for them to be able to win it.

Speaker 5 (02:12:02):
They just didn't win it.

Speaker 2 (02:12:04):
Didn't close it out bullpen, which hasn't happened very often.
A little bit of a letdown wasn't helped by you know,
ball should have been caught right in the outfield. My
thought process on if you said, Sean, here's what it's
going to look like when he's done, you know, three

(02:12:24):
and two thirds right? I believe it was three and
two thirds. It felt that he used a lot of
piss pisses, a lot of probably that too, used a
lot of pitches before the game. There you go, Yeah,
I think your nerves are right. A lot of pitches
to get to eighty seven and three and two thirds,
there's no doubt. I was actually pleasantly surprised that they

(02:12:47):
let him throw eighty seven pitches, which tells me something.
They felt like he had worked his way up to that,
in which I'm one hundred percent on the side of
we need more, right from every day pitching, and then
all of a sudden we get eighty seven from lanceper culture,
I thought some of the stuff and it was one

(02:13:08):
of those you're thinking. I was actually I had my
clock set by it, not just because it was the asses.
I wanted to see how excuse me he looked. He's
out of propensity. He'll he'll walk people. We know that's
gonna happens. That's part of his by you know, with
those that big ass hook and stuff and slider and curveball,
and but in his velocity was nice. I'm anxious to

(02:13:30):
see how he responds after eighty seven pitches five days
from now, when he's pitching again. That's one. Two is
if you have told me this is what it's going
to look like, sean eighty seven pitch, he's going to
strike out four, He'll put a couple on, some will
look good, velocity'll be pretty pretty solid. But he's gonna
pitch eighty seven. He's gonna get through three and two thirds.
I would have accepted it knowing I can't fathom I've

(02:13:52):
come back from shredding my knee twice. So it's about
as close as I can get to thinking about how
he felt missing two full seasons when you started both games,
and it was at the same school, on the same
side of the field both times. I shredded my knee
at Arizona State my sophomore in my senior year, and
so that thought of the rehab and the mental grind

(02:14:12):
that comes back from it, that's as close as I
can think for me to know what he was going through.
Because you feel left out your training on your own
there's a million parts of lonely work. There's every single
friggin doubt you ever go through. Then there's the year
pissed because this is happening and everybody is doubting you,
and oh, he makes all this money, You're going to
go and bust. You're asked to prove a point. So

(02:14:35):
it's personal, and it's okay to make it personal as
long as that if you're making it personal, that it's
applying to getting better, not paralyzing you from working, you
know what I mean, putting your time and then dealing
with the mental stuff that goes. I got to run
out there and being able to take a deep breath
and gather yourself. If this was what you would have
told me I was going to get from the Colors

(02:14:55):
on his first start, I'd have probably said, that's par
I'll take par On on a on a very difficult
part three. And the emotions it must have been punching
him in the side of the head all I mean
through all these you know what Steve saying, nine hundred days,
like nine hundred plus, it was like nine and sixteen days,
significent significant start, right, So that's a long time in

(02:15:18):
your profession. Heck, that's an out of sight, out of mind.
A lot of people that haven't done their job in
three years like, okay, I'm doing something else. But his
resolve and his grind have been impressive. Now we'll see
how he recovers. Like I said, it's one thing, adrenaline's
flowing now in between starts, the ice and the and
the plunge pool and all the back to you know,

(02:15:40):
all the all the stretching, the mental anguish he's been through,
and there's also Dan had to be in going into yesterday.
I don't care what anybody says, don't care how much
you've rehabbed, just speaking from my experiences with the lower half,
with my knees and recovering from those, it doesn't matter
how much you do. There's a different intensity when it's real,
and you always question, okay, is it not going to

(02:16:04):
happen again right now? Even if it's a different injury,
you still say have I done everything? Even if you
know you have? And I knew I had, but there's
still the question. So he had to deal with the physical,
the weather, you know you're you're getting here. So yesterday
to him, the Chicago White Sox were the Los Angeles
Dodgers in a World Series matchup, right, So all those things,

(02:16:27):
I would consider it a thumbs up day for Lance
mc colors.

Speaker 5 (02:16:30):
Four strike get the winter.

Speaker 2 (02:16:31):
Lost thumbs up date, and you know he'll get a
lot of swing and miss with his stuff as well.
I was encouraged by it. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:16:38):
I mentioned the four strikeouts, three walks, three three hits,
including one double to Andrew Vaughan. But I mean from
what you probably expected, because they even had Taylor Scott
getting ready in the second inning of Wondering Hey.

Speaker 2 (02:16:50):
And they let him continue to crouch.

Speaker 6 (02:16:52):
Well, let's let's not extend this guy too much if
if you know, the inning is kind of getting away
from him, Let's let's make sure we're not setting him
up to fail. But kind of leads, you know, to
my question, Sean, can you necessarily count on this guy
to be one of the lynch pins of your rotation
right now?

Speaker 7 (02:17:08):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:17:09):
No, but you're gonna find out if you can, especially
when they go to what's seventeen days in a row
or whatever it is. Sixth man, you have to number one,
and I would imagine the other guy is going to
be Gusto for now, right, I would think he slides
back into there. I don't know that I'm assuming, but yeah, no, no, Dan,
you can after all that time, all the thousand days,

(02:17:30):
damn near all of a sudden, you're gonna pump him
in there and say, Okay, here we go. We're counting
on you to be every fifth day to be that
guy or every sixth day now depending on that. You
know how long the six man rotation lasts. No, but
what you are this is part of You got to
see this through to see where he belongs and what
you're going to get from him. So he is going
to be part of it. I will say this, And

(02:17:52):
you mentioned you know, as far as counting on him
the uh if if you can get Put it this way,
if I'd have told you going into this they're going
to let him throw eighty seven pitches, would you have
bet the under and and he wouldn't. I would have

(02:18:13):
bet the under a thousand times over. My I'm encouraged
by the fact, like I said that, they felt he
was strong enough to go eighty seven eighty seven pitch
the first time back. And it's not like he was laboring,
but he wasn't mowing people down. There was some good,
some bad and some you know, it was just kind
of it was it was he was grinding right right,
which is okay, that's positive. But I would have never

(02:18:36):
thought that eighty seven pitches would have would have especially
in three and two thirds innings seventy five probably yeah,
he's taken the under on eighty seven. I would have yeah, so,
but I think there was some encouraging signs. But if
you're the question, if can we rely on him right
now that you're going to get eighty five to ninety

(02:18:56):
five pitches and five and two thirds innings moving forward? Everything? No,
But what I do think in a six man rotation,
you're hoping you can find out if you can coming
out of it. Does that make sense?

Speaker 6 (02:19:08):
Yeah, I mean out of that next twenty games or
whatever it is. Well, and Hayden was nasky. He's gonna
pitch in this series against the Brewers. He's gonna go
tomorrow night. You get Ronel Blanco tonight and then Fromer
to close things out. So I mean that is your
six man rotation.

Speaker 2 (02:19:20):
The other three will be what Hunter Brown, Hunter Brown, Lance,
Paccolors and Gusto I think correct, probably think so. Yeah,
I'm assuming right, now with all hands on deck when
you go, and you better be prepared for some long
relief and some some way shape or for him.

Speaker 6 (02:19:38):
Well, I mean, you get to this stage of the season,
as you mentioned me, and you're gonna play seventeen straight games.
I mean that's what you need. I mean, you're gonna
find out we've been told how good this pitching is.
You're gonna find out how good this pitch.

Speaker 2 (02:19:49):
You're also going to find out why a fresh bullpen's important.
And they will rear its head the next twenty game.

Speaker 6 (02:19:54):
And that's been and maybe that's where they feel like
they can give Lance a little bit of a runway
because you've gotten that. You've gotten every single time Hunter
Brown is out there. Hey, there's at least six innings
right there. I just got to figure out the other
three fromer sometimes. I mean Kansas City he did. He's
been an innings eater for most of it, and you
expect him to give you six.

Speaker 5 (02:20:14):
You expected, But then the problem is, I mean, that's
just who the guy is.

Speaker 11 (02:20:19):
Is.

Speaker 6 (02:20:19):
You get that against Kansas City, your bats just don't
show up, and then you get Friday night where you're
just like dude, like some sort of level here like
it's it's it's not quite Jalen Green drop off level,
but it's close.

Speaker 2 (02:20:32):
Fromber's got a lot of extremes in his game. When
he's when he's going good, he's extremely he's unhittable. When
he's going bad, there's not that rarely is there that
settle in between grind it for you, But where you
come out of there saying it was it was a
solid perfoman, It's either damn, he's good or I gotta
have it. I got to have him better. It's like, dude,

(02:20:53):
what was that's right there? There there's a there's a
there's a big there's feels to be a chasm between
the good and the bad, right or a wall that
has trouble breaking through to where it's like, man, just
I'll take three starts of six innings where you had
to grind walk three, struck out seven, but maybe you
scattered seven hits. I don't need the two hitter from B.
I mean it'd be great, yeah, but right now he's

(02:21:15):
not brown. I just need to eliminate the performances where
you're like damn. And because it all comes down to this,
as we continue to roll along say whatever we want,
because this pitching staff's proven time and time again that
they are going to keep you into the in this
season even when you're struggling. The key is you don't
want to get to a point where starting pitching the

(02:21:36):
workload even with six, starts to wane a little bit
because you know they get tired of their having those days.
You're still working lands through it and you're still wondering,
is gusto a bullpenner start all those things and then
a bullpen that's fresh and they're really good that you
all of a sudden run into twenty five or thirty
game stint where it's like they hit their struggles. You're trying.
So that's why you've got to maximize the starting you

(02:21:58):
just do and maybe having six pitchers do it and
a six man rotation.

Speaker 5 (02:22:02):
Will do that.

Speaker 6 (02:22:03):
Get ready to speak, Logan Van why that's what I
think the moral is of that. Dominic c you right
there will get you into the conversation, but also to
the story her.

Speaker 5 (02:22:13):
It just won't go away. We'll discuss here. Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 6 (02:22:19):
It is Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety Rockets
lose in Game seven last night to the Warriors one
to three to eighty nine. Astros dropped two or three
over the weekend to the White Sox rain shortened at
five to four loss yesterday there on the south Side
and Sovereignty the winner at the Kentucky Derby some one

(02:22:40):
three two, one two five seven ninety. We'll tell you
who she is after we hear from Dominic and Richmond here. Dominic,
good morning.

Speaker 9 (02:22:49):
Hey, good morning fellas. My duo on the rockets is
a win, but it will be the number two seed
in the West. As young as they are, they don't
even average twenty four years of age. And to do
what they did it to get the experience that they got,
it's a win. Coaching coaching Doka, He's proven we have
some pieces on the squad that can really really do

(02:23:10):
some things. But everyone knows that we do need that
bona fide dog, that that guy that's going to get
us points when that can create his own and just
just take the game over. But I look at it
as a win. I don't look at it as a
as a bad thing. Now as far as Jalen is concerned,
that's also a win.

Speaker 7 (02:23:26):
You see what you got.

Speaker 9 (02:23:28):
That's why his contract when he got the extension. It
wasn't like some massive extension. It's like three years and
like one hundred and a million and whatnot. That's not
massive in today's NBA market. Jalen is what Jalen is.
He's unfortunately, he's just proven that he's not the go to.
He's just the guy that you can He's a piece.
He's a piece now. Will he be a piece going forward?
That remains to be seen. But I just look at it.

(02:23:49):
I'm not down, I'm not negative. I agree with one
of your callers where he's at the energy last night.
The competitive nature wasn't there. It really wasn't. I was
frustrated as hell watching it because I was like, well,
you guys doing you play harder in game six than
what you're playing right now, so it seems. But when
you're going up against grown men that's got that that experience,
you know, it's just like the Rockets are the new

(02:24:11):
for the new for Ari, the new Corvette and the
Golden State Warriors. That's that Chevy Suburban, that's that multi purpose.

Speaker 2 (02:24:16):
Can carry a load and get a whole lot of
things done.

Speaker 9 (02:24:19):
That's been there's done that, been there, done that. But
I just look at the season as as a win
off together because of the information that the coaching staff
and ownership, those that make the big decisions, they got
a chance now to sit down and say, oh, with
all season, Okay, this is what we're gonna do, this
is what we're not gonna do, and this is how
we're gonna move forward. And I just I just look
at it as a as a win. And as far

(02:24:40):
as Lance's concerned, astros wise, and I'm a go I
also look at that as a win. For him to
come back and do everything that he did, to get
back out on the mound, and and and just to
be out there. Man, that's that's that's a lot. That's
a lot of emotional fortitude, a lot of a lot
of just a lot.

Speaker 1 (02:24:59):
I took my hat to that guy.

Speaker 9 (02:25:01):
Because he was one of our cornerstones and we were,
you know, back in seventeen and and a little bit
before that. But for him to do what he did,
you know, we don't know what we're going to get
out of him, but anything we get out of him
is a bonus.

Speaker 6 (02:25:14):
I appreciate Dominic, the positives from Dominic and Richmond from
both the Rockets, perspective, and also the Astros with Lance McCullers.

Speaker 2 (02:25:23):
I know, lies no, lies told there. No, he's real
about that. He's he's spot on.

Speaker 6 (02:25:28):
But I mean I will agree with them on Jalen Green.
I Jalen Green I think at this point in his
career has shown you kind of like in the prime
with the Warriors of Steph and Clay, you could win
games because of Clay. You weren't going to win a
lot of games because of Clay. It had to be stuff.
He had to be the guy. I think that Jen
cut off stuff, not the other way around. No exactly.

(02:25:50):
And and that's where I think Jalen Green is. I
think that he is the guy that he can be
the good, solid number two for you you need.

Speaker 2 (02:25:57):
You need an a well if he's buddy healed, where
he becomes a third guy in a rotation, we knock
down shots like he gives me one of those or
two of those. Okay, Yeah. And we were trying to
force feed Jalen Green into being a star that takes
over games. I get it because we've seen it during
the regular season, but some guys may just not be
built for I don't know if he is or not

(02:26:19):
with the infancy of his career, but six and seven
games he looked at times overwhelmed, not just one or two,
six of them. And that doesn't make him a bad dude,
doesn't mean he can't improve on it and get it fixed.
But if that's any indication of polle, we've seen that
movie before with players across the league that man alive
from around November to March April. They're hell to pay

(02:26:44):
and then all of a sudden that postseason kicks. Say
it's like Aaron Judge, Yeah, there's a there's a this
is different. Well Kyle Tucker, yeah, we've seen that with him.
What's what's he going to do? Can he elevate those
guys there in Chicago to another level? And he doesn't
have the same help he had some of the bats
yet here Now I know he's great player. You get
my point though, right, we have those guys, so we've

(02:27:06):
been trying to make we've wanted Jalen Green, and he's
done some things to make us believe it, and then
he's done some things to make you take a step
back and say, well, maybe, as Dominic said, being a
piece doesn't mean that you're a bad player. Not everybody
has closer after closer after close on the team, and
a lot of times the truth is maybe like quarterbacks,
if you have three of them, you don't have one.

(02:27:26):
Does that make sense? Yeah, and two you don't have one.
Maybe in this case you need one to be a
sometimes guy. But stay Steph Curry's usually an all the
time guy, right, and maybe Jalen Green's just a sometimes
guy if it's going to be here, but he'll this
will be you know, we saw from rookie to second year,
second to third year. This will be the biggest offseason
challenge for him because now he's got to take it

(02:27:48):
to we don't judge you on on Game fifteen MVP
awards do the greatness is judged what you just saw
the series? And right now they both this one canceled
out the regular season. Now what's next for him? Grill
had got better during the regular season, did not get

(02:28:08):
better in the postseason, unless, of course that mentally that
he looks as that he looks at this in Steady's
taping as hard and critical of himself as to why
he did this happened. Old man's strength beat him down
in this series. It just did.

Speaker 6 (02:28:22):
It's I mean, you know, I've I've railed against it
before that sometimes you sometimes meet all of that that
needs to stay in this season because it was nice.

Speaker 5 (02:28:31):
It was a nice rallying cry this year.

Speaker 6 (02:28:32):
You can put it on T shirts, you can put
it you know, in your in your advertising, you know,
slogans and everything else. But you need you need some
guys to take a step forward if you are going
to run this thing back. Because again, would I like
to have Giannis here? Yes, I would. Would I like
to have Devin Booker here, Not as much as Yiannis,
but you get my point. I mean, that's that's where

(02:28:54):
the next step for this team is is being able
to improve offensively in what you have right now is
not going to take a marked enough step to be
able to improve offensively enough to be able to win
a series like this.

Speaker 2 (02:29:05):
There's no doubt. You try to force feed it and
right now you're still looking for Okay, when the game's
on the line, who's the guy here? Who is it?
Do you know yet? At times it was a men
Thompson and he may very well be that closer you're
looking for, But do you know yet? No, because they're
not they're not good enough to go four and three

(02:29:27):
in the series. Not good enough to go three and
four in the series. Not good enough to go four
and three in this series. Unfortunately, I believe in a
men Thompson, of course you do. I believe that Jalen
Green is a good, solid number two and he's not
supposed to be that, and that Listen doesn't every championship
team have a solid number two. Unfortunately, in this series

(02:29:47):
he wasn't two, three or four except for one game.
And while I love his skill set, there's a consistency
that has to go and a mentality that, Okay, they
got me once, they got me twice, they don't get
to do this three times. They got him six out
of seven games. And the truth of the matter is,
and it's not on one guy. If Jalen Green plays
better basketball in a couple of these, maybe it doesn't

(02:30:10):
go to seven. But we can make all the excuse one.
Jalen Green's got some improvement to make. The Rockets have
some questions to ask, and the Rockets still have some
questions that need answered that are on the court. And
then what you're gonna do and what you're gonna have
to give up to get that one next stud that
you think gets you over the top, because they are
really close and really good. This was a season where
they this season is a win, it really is. You're

(02:30:32):
not in the position like the Lakers or somebody where
you're like the Boston Its championship or bust. It's not
a moral victory thing. It's considering where they were two
years ago to now, the quantum leaps they've made and
both seasons. Now, the quantum leap in the postseason is
going to have to rear its head and it didn't.
Unfortunately it did at times, but not enough in a
Game seven where every ounce of competitiveness you have can't

(02:30:54):
be breathed a sigh of relief after the win in
Game six. You breathe that sigh after Game seven before
you still the next series. Sean coming up, I'm gonna
give you a two for here. We're gonna talk about
her because she's the worst and then also a show
favorite factors into something that we talked about last week.
We'll discuss both of those right here, Sewn Salisbury Show,

(02:31:15):
Matt Thomas Show with Ross coming up at ten. Right here,
Sports Talk seven ninety It is Sean.

Speaker 6 (02:31:21):
Salisbury Show, Sports talks seven ninety Rockets season is over
one oh three eighty nine loss to the Golden State
Warriors in Game seven. Astro is getting ready for the
Brewers in Milwaukee after losing two out of three over
the weekend to the Chicago White Sox. So we've talked
a lot of Jordan Hudson here, and I'll make this

(02:31:42):
as quick as possible because I do want to get
to the other thing that makes it a two fer.

Speaker 5 (02:31:45):
This is kind of a one A, one B and
then the other.

Speaker 6 (02:31:48):
So one A is remember the dunkin Donuts commercial that
had Bill Belichick in it, and she was in the
commercial with him. It was Ben Affleck, It was Casey
Affleck is the guy that played one of the roys
on Secession.

Speaker 5 (02:32:04):
I think he's in it.

Speaker 6 (02:32:05):
He comes out of a huge thing, a cold brew.
I think it was one that it wasn't necessarily a
memorable commercial. But according to page six, Hudson was not
supposed to be part of the commercial, but then she
quotes forced her way in.

Speaker 2 (02:32:21):
Bill saw it as a way.

Speaker 6 (02:32:22):
To get her paid, and people telling the outlet that
they had never seen anything like this.

Speaker 2 (02:32:31):
Bill loves her.

Speaker 6 (02:32:33):
He feels a certain way about her. I don't know
if it's necessarily that I told you. I think it's
infatuation more than anything else.

Speaker 2 (02:32:40):
Yeah, I don't know. Of in there, I don't know.
We hear all the stories about you know, people concerned.
Isn't this is North Carolina? I saw that over the
weekend too, or maybe late last week. Are they concerned
about her involvement in this?

Speaker 5 (02:32:54):
There's reports they are.

Speaker 2 (02:32:56):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, how does this
end poorly at North Carolina? I mean the whole thing?
Do you think so? Yeah? Do you think the chances
of succeeding North Carolina? I mean, but will is Bill
gonna coach like Bill normally coaches? Is the focus? Where's
this focus? You've got got to be all in.

Speaker 6 (02:33:13):
His daughter in law is already taking shots at her
on social media, but publicists handle themselves in a professional way.
That's the daughter in law of as the wife to
the guy that is supposed to succeed him at North Carolina.
So you don't think that that's being talked about. Hey,
what's the deal with your dad?

Speaker 5 (02:33:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:33:34):
Does it feel like she's trying to crowbar her way
into celebrity? Yeah, not crowbar. She's completely kicked the door in. Brother,
she's in there. How does Bill not see it? Are
we being unfair to her? He's blind? Are we being unfair? Well?
I don't think so, because coming out every single day. Yeah,

(02:33:56):
she's immersed herself in a way too uh loud of
a way. It hasn't excurted.

Speaker 5 (02:34:01):
She's twenty four years old.

Speaker 2 (02:34:03):
Right, If you're going to do this, don't you kind
of sneak in the When I say sneaking, don't you
kind of quietly just go about your business without us
having a question? Why the go go boots?

Speaker 1 (02:34:14):
Why this?

Speaker 2 (02:34:15):
Why the commercial? Why the interview?

Speaker 5 (02:34:17):
Why the why are you interrupting interviews?

Speaker 26 (02:34:19):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:34:20):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:34:21):
So the question is the professionalism that goes with it.
If she's gonna, if this is the career she wants,
she's going to be resented regularly already people are I mean,
they're gonna they're going to question well, they're they're the
loyalties obviously been questioned, right I think of then the
question is is this all about her or them?

Speaker 1 (02:34:41):
Is my point?

Speaker 6 (02:34:42):
Think about it this way, Like jobs in this industry,
they're coveted, Like you have them, you want to you
want to hold on to them. So the sid at
North Carolina is where I'm going with this, who's probably
been in the business for over twenty five years, you know,
is thought of as being incredibly professional, knows knows how
to handle, you know, situations that need public relations, and

(02:35:03):
then being questioned by her twenty four years old that
has done nothing in life too. Like it's almost like
you ever see the Entourage movie. She almost kind of
strikes me as being like, good, I don't think I
saw it wellyea. Haley Joel Osmon plays Billy Bob Thornton's son,
and like he's just continuously trying to micromanage the movie
that Vince is doing. All because Vince hooked up with

(02:35:24):
Emily Radikowski and he didn't get her. But like he's
trying to torpedo everything because you know that happened. And
then finally are he gets to the bottom of it
and is like, you know, oh, this is all happening
because you're upset that a movie star got the girl
over you.

Speaker 5 (02:35:38):
That's what they do.

Speaker 2 (02:35:39):
Yeah, going into this, did you not prepare for all this?
If you were a bill, did you not prepare for
what this was? Gonna look like I think that's the
disappointing thing for a lot of people that they're just
like you, you know better, like you should know better. Well,
he's prepared for everything in his career methodically. He doesn't
give up control to anything. I mean, this is a guy,

(02:36:01):
but he has to her.

Speaker 11 (02:36:03):
I know.

Speaker 2 (02:36:04):
I tell you, man, that voodoo stuff will get you well.

Speaker 6 (02:36:07):
Apparently, Bill, according to reports Mike Florio, is now seeking
help pr wise from outside sources.

Speaker 2 (02:36:16):
Uh wise, move, You're gonna to quiet this down because
Bill is a football coach, make no mistake about it.
He is a football coach through and through, and then
the rest falls into place, not the other way around.
And he has cut he has done everything when I
say cut his steeth, but a long time ago, where
everything's done a peculiar, a particular way, a precise way,

(02:36:37):
a dynamic way. And we will not waiver on that.
A kinder, gentler Bill, I'm sure is good for some.
But a less attention to detailed Bill Belichick. Now that
stay retired, if that's how that doesn't that just doesn't
seem like him.

Speaker 6 (02:36:53):
Well, it's just it's also too I mean I said
this last week, Stay retired, because if you want to
do this when you're retired, you don't have people counting
on you.

Speaker 5 (02:37:01):
You're retired, you're out, you're not.

Speaker 2 (02:37:03):
You can bank whoever you want. But now when that's part,
when it's carried over into now, it affects the way
you coach, the way the prs looked at it, the
way you approach your daily schedule, the way now you
have to the distraction of having to answer all these questions.
If he's in love, he's in love, and if it
turns in a marriage, good for them. But the perception

(02:37:24):
is that's not the case because of the distance and age.
But what happens now by making her, by making this
such a public that she has, and then she become
a star or the talk of the town. One way,
good or bad?

Speaker 1 (02:37:38):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (02:37:38):
Now? That's the distract. That's why we talk about like
the Aaron Rodgers in the locker room or when Tim
Tebow and what a hell of a human being. But
the read they didn't want that distraction there because you're
going up and asking the assistant, I mean, the wide receiver, Well,
what's it like having Tebow as a backup? Well, he's
the backup.

Speaker 1 (02:37:55):
Im.

Speaker 2 (02:37:55):
We got a game this week. Yeah, it's the same
thing here. How much did she put in the game
play bill? Does she sit in does she sitting in
quarterback meetings? Was she in the defensive coordinates? You're right?
Is she watching over the linebacker coach to make sure
his drills are going? Well? You know, are we there?
It's that whether we are or not. The fact that
we have to ask the questions is the problem? Well,

(02:38:17):
it's where where does it stop? I think that's the
biggest thing. All right, So last week we did what's
this too? For now?

Speaker 5 (02:38:23):
One hundred men against one gorilla?

Speaker 2 (02:38:25):
Who would win?

Speaker 6 (02:38:25):
And we gave our thoughts on that. What if I
told you there could be the scenario of one hundred
gorillas against Chuck Norris. Somebody did an AI simulation and
of course it did not go well for the gorillas.

Speaker 2 (02:38:38):
Chuck Norris, I mean, Chasmo. You know that that the
reason why that's that's even to think about, that is absurd.
It's Chuck Norris.

Speaker 6 (02:38:48):
Well, I put together a dream team of if you went,
you know, the the number advantage against one gorilla, Chuck Norris,
Jason Bourne, John Wick, Liam Neeson, and uh, we'll throw
in blade we'll throw in Wesley Snipes all five very

(02:39:08):
averse or not very averse, very very good at hand
to hand combats.

Speaker 2 (02:39:13):
I think you've over hyped West Snipes.

Speaker 12 (02:39:16):
Not at all.

Speaker 2 (02:39:17):
You've seen blade, I mean if if he doesn't have
the blade, yes, but what about Edward Scissors hands?

Speaker 5 (02:39:24):
Again?

Speaker 2 (02:39:25):
I I don't think that weapons are allowed. But I
mean you saw talking about hand to hand? Well, then
wouldn't we go with Jason Statham? Good? What about Wick?

Speaker 6 (02:39:36):
I mean, yeah, Wick, you've seen, you've seen how he
is with artillery. But also right, yeah, right, he'll get
you a shot to the throat. Yeah, I advantage gorilla
except one person Chasmo.

Speaker 5 (02:39:50):
Yeah, Chuck Norris. Yeah, it always comes back to Chuck Norris.

Speaker 2 (02:39:53):
I mean when listen, the only guy you know, like
you said that can get bitten by a snake and
the sneak dice. Yeah, oh yeah, I would say Chasmo
probably chaswell one to oh over the gorilla. Yeah it's
Chuck Norris.

Speaker 5 (02:40:08):
Went in doubt.

Speaker 6 (02:40:09):
Always count on Chuck Norris, Always count on Sean Salisbury
and Jonathan Allen and today for triple a good job
by him.

Speaker 2 (02:40:15):
Thank you, Jonathan. Great Steph It's great to be back
in Broth.

Speaker 5 (02:40:17):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (02:40:18):
You know, a double duty for him, The Matt Thomas
Show with Ross coming up next. Dan Matthews here with you.
We will talk to you in twenty hours right here
Sports Talk seven ninety