Rockets Lose Game 1 At Home, Astros Win Series Over San Diego, Steve Sparks & Jack Del Rio Joins!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh, very Salisbury.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hot, Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Sean Salisbury, NFL Salisbury, the USC Troup, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Dan matthewscuse, this is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 5 (00:23):
Six o'clock in ahe town. What's happen? Everybody?

Speaker 6 (00:26):
Welcome into the Sean Salisbury Show. Sports Talk seven ninety
Chris Gordy here with you. In for Dan Matthews. One
more day, Dan, We'll be back in tomorrow. We got tripley,
we got Sean and man, we got a lot to
get into.

Speaker 7 (00:39):
It is.

Speaker 6 (00:39):
The Rockets drop game one of their first round series
against the Golden State Warriors ninety five to eighty five.
Astro's fall to the Potteries last night three to two.
Still take this series, though, that's the most important thing.
It's the best team in baseball, so trending upward there.
But shall we got to start with the Houston Rockets.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
I stayed up to watch this one. I was I
was in bed.

Speaker 6 (01:01):
I'm like, I'm gonna get some sleep, I'm gonna be
well arrested for the morning.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
But the Rockets pulled me back in.

Speaker 6 (01:07):
They go on a run and start to make this
thing a three point game in the fourth quarter, but
not enough offense to pull away or to make this
thing happen. Steph Kurr turns out, Shawn, what we said
on Friday, Steph Curry Jimmy Butler are two best players
in this series.

Speaker 8 (01:23):
Yes, and I validated again and will continue to be
that way. But you know when they made the run
and then just couldn't quite knock down enough shots to
get it done, Gordon, it was that temptation like, okay,
do I stay up and do all this? And you
got to And Jimmy Butler, what an addition he's been
to them, And you're exactly right about he and Steph.
But we will tell you what you saw old school

(01:44):
defense in this year and at least in game one
of this series. How many times are both teams going
to be under one hundred points in a playff But
we don't have the Pistons playing the next much anymore.
Right back in Patrick Ewing and Mahorn in those days,
so and Bill Laymbier. So they just they knocked down
a couple ex shots, not real good beyond the arc.
I think they were what twenty seven percent or something.
They didn't knock down the threes that they're going to

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need a knockdown, but they did. They defended well, but
so did Golden State. And if you remember back one
of whether you like Steve Kerr or not, I mean,
if you want a conversation, Steve will give you one.
But regardless you go back to what was it their
seventy plus win season, Gordy, they I believe that year
they were also the.

Speaker 9 (02:24):
Number one defense.

Speaker 8 (02:25):
My point is we get so caught up in the
past of this team shoot, shoot, shoot beyond the ark
and be able to catch and shoot and get shots
up and score. They have always in their championship years,
for the most part, defensively have been pretty solid. And
you saw the commitment to it again last night. Regardless
of some of the bodies have changed, they're still kind

(02:45):
of like here a culture change of they've had it,
and Udoka's implemented you got to play defense in Golden
State even that situation, good attitude on the defensive end
last night, and if they don't play defense, the Rockets
still win that one.

Speaker 9 (03:01):
I doubt you're gonna.

Speaker 8 (03:01):
See much of that in most of these playoffs series
where it's one of those old school, grinded out somebody
knocked down a shot and get a stop and impressive,
and the Rockets do belong.

Speaker 9 (03:11):
They were not overwhelmed last night.

Speaker 6 (03:13):
Yeah it's again. They're going on this run and they're
playing out standing defense. They're getting stops, they're getting buckets.

Speaker 9 (03:19):
On the other end.

Speaker 6 (03:21):
But man if even I felt like he get those
buckets on that run. They were having a fight for
everything I could because and Steven Adams had a great.

Speaker 9 (03:27):
Show, a fatiguing show. I mean to get back into
it now.

Speaker 6 (03:30):
This was like the offense game so easy for Steph
Curry and Jimmy Butler and stuff. It's a ridiculous long
three like he always does in clutch moments. But to me, Shawn,
the biggest narrative coming out of this one for the
Rockets one, you have a thirteen point second quarter that
cannot happen in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
You're just you're not gonna win.

Speaker 6 (03:50):
But on the flip side, Alpi schan Gun scores twenty
six nine rebounds. He was special. He was battling with Dre.
He knows he's better than Draymond Green in the paint.
He just is he Alpik got his, but nobody else Sean.
Nobody else scored more than eleven points for the Rockets.
That can't happen. You got two superstars on the other side.
You gotta have two stars on this side. Shangoon was awesome,

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but everybody's looking at Jalen Green going where were you?
Budd seven points. Ferd van Vliet hits a three finally late,
but he finishes with ten yep. I mean he was
he was got off. They kept leaving him wide open
from three and he.

Speaker 8 (04:24):
Couldn't be knocked down, you know, and they, like I said,
they were very good beyond three last night. But going
into this series, and I think that we had discussed
on Friday, I know last week. For me it was
the most the guy who had a chance to be
the MVP of the series with shn Goun because I
thought he could dominate inside and better than the guy
who's playing him, and he did. The problem is, and

(04:44):
we also said going into the side from the top
two players, when you go deep, this team's had five, six,
seven different type of guys. When your number one players
not scoring or offensive, somebody else hits twenty five, the
other guy hits twenty three, and your star one of
your Stars last night took care of his business, but
you're exactly right, nobody else did. And on the other side,

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you at least have to match You may not match
him points, but you at least have to have two
guys on your side that are also competitive on the
offensive end, dominating, just like you're gonna get from Butler
and Steph curR. You gotta expect what they're gonna do
every night. They're gonna be one two in the box score,
but also is as far as difference goes, So one
won't be enough against those two. And Shan Gun played
his ass off and I think we'll continue to if

(05:28):
they go on and win the series.

Speaker 9 (05:29):
He's going to be the reason. He's gonna be the
MVP of the series.

Speaker 8 (05:32):
But they're gonna need another number two, and maybe at times,
with Jimmy and Steph Curry, your number three may have
to be a high teens, low twenties guy as well.
It just that's just the way it's gonna be because
this team knows how listen, the rapper may change on
the player, but when you go into that building, there's
something different about him and Jimmy Butler's elevated. He knows
what playing in this type of atmosphere is like advantage

(05:55):
Golden State when it comes to that. That's why on
your side, you're gonna have to do a little bit
extra special even though you were the two seed. There's
a lot that goes into playoff pressure basketball man.

Speaker 6 (06:04):
And the crazy part is Lee the numbers order shot
forty seven percent from the field, thirty seven percent from three,
they were twelve of thirty two. It feels like they're
going to have a better shooting game than that. Yeah,
that wasn't there, but that's right. That's what's scary is
like it's like you play good enough defense, but your
offense was just absolutely putrid. You shoot twenty percent from three,

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six of twenty nine and all, Like I mentioned, one
of those came very late from Fdvane the league in
the final minutes when it didn't even matter. The other
thing is Sean, you were eleven for twenty at the
free throw line.

Speaker 9 (06:36):
That was my number. My next thing was Gordy.

Speaker 8 (06:39):
We talked about it last Friday, going into college, and
we talked about college going to the tournament. So you
got to play defense, you better shoot free throws and
contest shots. It's no different than this league. It's the
same thing. It'll get down to it. Did you defend yeah,
did you make your free throws?

Speaker 10 (06:54):
No?

Speaker 8 (06:55):
And that's the difference in the game. It will all
It's like leading leading an inning off walking a hitter.
It rarely works in your favor if you lead off
hitter walks, and you can pretty much know that if
it scores nothing, nothing, it's it's they've scored at least
one in the inning.

Speaker 9 (07:11):
It just in inevitably it happens. It's the same. It
will find you.

Speaker 8 (07:17):
Run, score will find you when you lead off with
a walk or walk somebody during an inning.

Speaker 9 (07:21):
It's the same thing here.

Speaker 8 (07:23):
When you cannot knock down free throws, at some point,
you're going to look back and say, you know what, Yeah,
if you're shooting forty eight percent or fifty two percent
from field goal percentage or beyond the arc and you
miss a few three throws free throws, you may have
a little latitude in the score, but you can't when
you're shooting that poor at least field goal percentage and
beyond the arc.

Speaker 9 (07:42):
They just weren't knocking down.

Speaker 8 (07:43):
Their shots last night, and then you can't make free
throws against that team with those two guys. Yeah, and
you just you know, if you're going to make a
run and continue the run and overcome them and be
up one, oh, you've got to hit knock down free throws.
It's the most elementary school elemented, the elementary element of
the game. And you know what, still, that will end

(08:04):
up costing teams and we'll we'll cost the team an
NBA championship and we'll cost somebody a series because you
don't knock down free throws. Whoever that is. Let's just
hope we're not talking about the rockets like that.

Speaker 6 (08:13):
Steven Adams, so for two at the line, I'm and Thompson, oh,
for four at the free throw line.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
You gotta you gotta do better than that.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
And this is where maybe him being twenty two years old,
you start to look and go, God, these guys are
still so young. You know, they're the two seed and
they were ahead of schedule, but man, this just feels
like the I'm looking around with all those other games
over the weekend, I'm.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
Like, why do I have to get this damn team?

Speaker 9 (08:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (08:36):
Why they gotta get this? Get like Steph Curry the
freaking war. I'm sick of seeing the Rockets.

Speaker 9 (08:40):
There's a little warriors of the playoffs.

Speaker 8 (08:41):
John, I don't blame you, man, and and once again
it happens. But there's a there's a certain are there.
There's more talented teams in a league, no doubt, but
there's just something about the you know, it's it's like
it's all man strength. Like when you when you're when
your pops is around, he says, no, you don't want
to mess with me. So I think I can get him.
I'm tougher in him. And then he puts you in
a headlocked just for fun and smiles at you. You're like, oh,

(09:02):
I'm still not ready for this. Let's hope we're not
saying that, because there's the opposite of true. You're like
the naive part of oh man. It's like when a
young team sometimes gets into a super Bowl, You're like,
I didn't know I was supposed to be this uptight
about it. Let me go play football. And so it
can work in your favor. But most of the people
that you talk to, or that I've ever talked to
overrated or underrated or properly rated when it comes to

(09:25):
experience in these type of moments, and it's rare. You're
going to find somebody say properly or overrated. Most of
them will always say it may be pressure, but that's
still underrated to what the effect has in a game.
So experience does matter, and you see it shine through
in certain moments, whether it's at the free throw line
being overwhelmed, or whether it's you know, knocking down an

(09:46):
open look three or a mid range jumper. When you
have it and it's only one game, but it would
have been nice.

Speaker 9 (09:50):
You got it. You can't go back on a road
down to Yeah, you have to take it.

Speaker 6 (09:55):
The proverbial must win Wednesday, it becomes they must win you.
If you win Wednesday, even up the series, you're you're
right back in this thing. You lose, it's gonna be
you gonna feel like you may not come back yet, and.

Speaker 9 (10:08):
That can be a difficult building to play in.

Speaker 7 (10:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
Absolutely, absolutely, it's got stuff.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
Curry.

Speaker 6 (10:14):
It feels like he's been chewing on that stupid mouthpiece
for fifteen years, Like, just dude, just age like age
and retire, please get out of the league.

Speaker 9 (10:22):
End of the process of chewing on it.

Speaker 8 (10:23):
He's not getting any older, and he keeps knocking down
shots and playing like, he's twenty five instead of what's
he now thirty six? He's getting thirty seven, something like
thirty five.

Speaker 9 (10:31):
Yeah. Crazy.

Speaker 6 (10:32):
I wanted to bring this up too because I went
out to UH. I was at practice Thursday, and then
I was there on Saturday. And Saturday was fun, Seowan
because e May was actually getting involved in the practice.
They were shooting threes. He gets in with some of
the guy shoots threes. He goes over to the other court,
he shoots a free throw. He's hitting layups. By the way,
he May cans still play like he is still looks
like it. I'm like, but he was shocked there. We

(10:53):
asked him afterwards. He's They were like, was that just
to kind of get the guys loose or whatever? He goes, No,
I want to get a work on it, which is
kind of fun, right, But you know, I got to
interview Jabari Smith and kind of the narrative of asking
the young guys is, oh, you got Steven Adams, you
got Dylan Brooks, you got Fird Van Vliet, all these
older guys that have been there, done that, been through
the playoff runs, and asked, you know, what what are
you telling the younger guys and all this and they're

(11:14):
all seeing him. Just let him play. Steven Adams even
say he goes, no man, he goes. We don't need
to tell him anything. It is so secret to the playoffs.
It's like, just let him play. You're gonna learn in time.

Speaker 8 (11:25):
And that's a great point because in truth, not on
one of them needs to be reminded of what time
of the year it is.

Speaker 9 (11:31):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (11:31):
I always thought when people get into huddling, you know,
the old Joe Montana John Candies in the stadium story
against Cincinnati Bengals, and it worked. The method of it
was Joe's just caught up and we're gonna be He
didn't want I don't know if he planned it or not,
but didn't want his guys to you know, you got
to I don't really need to remind Gary Zimmerman that

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he's blocking Reggie White and.

Speaker 9 (11:54):
It's the playoffs, Okay.

Speaker 8 (11:55):
He knows really exactly, Yeah, exactly as if it did
last week when we were trying to clinch the division
to get to these single elimination playoffs.

Speaker 9 (12:04):
So they know and it's true.

Speaker 8 (12:06):
Is that Clint Hurdle on this very station told we
asked him a couple of weeks ago, as we get
you know, during the baseball season when he his team
won twenty one of twenty two or twenty three of
twenty four in the playoffs. When he's in Colorado the
year they went to the World Series to make the playoffs,
and he said, at some one point in time, his
trainer came to him and said, the trainer, the Rockies

(12:29):
trainer said, it's time for you to get in a
back seat of the vehicle instead of control. Everything's time
for you getting the back seat. I mean, let them
drive right. It's okay. You can turn it over to
them now they get it. There's enough veterans and that
they can police themselves. It's time for you to get
in the back seat and sit back and enjoy the ride.
Coach them, but not over don't don't stress over it.

(12:50):
Let them do their thing. And and that's incept what
Steve nat said. What am I going to tell Jalen
Green if he hadn't played in him. You know what
he's done. He's watched them on TV. He knows exactly
what this talk is. So it'll happen. But it can
It doesn't mean it still can't be overwhelming at times,
and they're gonna get a chance to prove it. But
I don't think they're overwhelmed. I don't. I just think
they ran to a bad stretch, which isn't gonna There's

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gonna come a time in the series Golden States can
go through bad stretch and the Rockers is gonna win
a game.

Speaker 9 (13:14):
Yeah, happen.

Speaker 6 (13:15):
You outscored them in the first quarter, you outscored them
in the third quarter, you were right there with them
in the fourth.

Speaker 9 (13:19):
It was the second quarter that did you win. Make
free throws and don't chase the whole time, and you
got a better chance.

Speaker 6 (13:24):
How much for the refs to boy, we'll bring that
up next right here on the show at Salisbury Show.

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Speaker 11 (14:07):
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Speaker 12 (14:09):
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Speaker 6 (14:15):
It's just weird, like we're all celebrating the resurrection of
Jesus and y'all are just chocolateing bunny.

Speaker 9 (14:21):
I don't know, I don't know why. It's just like
you said it is.

Speaker 8 (14:26):
Now, if you want to after I go to church,
I come home after brunch, you want to give me
some kind of.

Speaker 9 (14:29):
Good candy, I'm digging in. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm
digging in.

Speaker 8 (14:32):
I actually do miss the days with your kids and
getting an Easter basket is guess what that Easter basket
got shared with all of us, right, Oh yeah, you
got what you wanted to have, not more is what
they want to have.

Speaker 6 (14:41):
So I was at Astros for pregame yesterday before Rockets,
and Joe Spotta was saying that it was nice to
have Sunday night baseball because he was able to kind
of just spend Sunday morning with the family. He goes,
you know, wake up and the kids come jump in bed,
and he goes, it was just nice because I'm normally
on my way to the ballpark at that time exactly.
But he said they stayed up like the night before
filling eggs to go hide him for Easter egg hunt.

(15:03):
And uh, he said, yeah, it's kind of you're putting
the candy in there, and he goes, it starts to
be a trade off, one for them, one for me,
one for them, one for and you you before you
you know, you've eaten ten pieces of candy before you realize,
oh yeah.

Speaker 8 (15:14):
Before they've even opened one. And like I said, the
next level is when you have kids in the next
level is where candies not enough, they want the golden ticket,
where you start putting cash in there.

Speaker 6 (15:23):
That's what he said. Yeah, he said, he put a
couple of dollars in That's the thing. It's like when
the kids are young, you know, a dollar bill, five dollars.
Once they start getting closer to the teens, you're going,
oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 8 (15:34):
Then you say, well, then you do like I said,
you nudge the youngest ones say, give him a head
start to where that golden egg may be. But my
style is you put him out, and then you get
up early that morning and put him out so you
know you're not out there where rabbits are eating your eggs.

Speaker 9 (15:47):
A night before what have you? And then you say,
where the hell did I put one?

Speaker 8 (15:51):
I overhit it, and I'm convinced places somewhere in a
tree there is an egg, got a gold It's got
a hundred dollars bill in it that.

Speaker 9 (16:02):
I just said. Did we hide that one there? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (16:05):
So I hope everybody had a nice Easter weekend. But
you know, the Rockets didn't end it the way they wanted.
But I know, you know, Gordy, I'm not a big
moral victory guy. I never have been. But I do
believe there's stuff you can take out of a loss
and the growth. It's just like in life, you take
a little you know, the growth usually comes from the struggle.
And I know that sounds cheesy, but it's true. And
in one game, well it's still a long series, but

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in one game you could take away from say, okay,
if we do this, and you don't want to live
a whole lot offs. If there's too many ifs, you're
never going to come out of it. But the ifs
of okay, boom, if we just make four more free
throws and knock down one more shot.

Speaker 9 (16:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (16:40):
Well, here's the part too, Sean, that people are I'm
reading comments this morning, it's a lot of people boy
him in the refs.

Speaker 9 (16:46):
Right.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
I didn't have a problem.

Speaker 6 (16:48):
I mean, I thought it was I thought it was
pretty well officiated. Yes, there were a few stayed out
moments where they got calls wrong. Rockets made a bad
challenge late in the second half. They lose their challenge.
Uh yeah, And then there was another play that was
they called it was off. It was it was off
the Warriors Rockets. And then immediately that next possession, Steph

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hits that miracle three. So it sucks because it's like, yeah,
if you'd had the challenge there, you could have reviewed that.
It would have been Rockets ball. Instead it's Warriors ball.
Stuff hits the three. Now the separations even greater. So
I get where people are angry, but I don't think
I mean, so some people tweeting off the Rocket. If
the restaurants so bad, the Rockets would be winning this

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game like relax. It's I don't think the refs have
it out. They didn't get a memo from Adam Silver goes.
Whatever those Warriors win, we need Steph Curry and TV.

Speaker 9 (17:42):
Ratings, you know.

Speaker 8 (17:43):
And I get to the point going, I don't want
their gig, you know, but they're the experts at it.
I mean, that's what the referees and umpires are supposed
to do. They're supposed to get it right, and we
expect them to. I don't want their gig, but we
obviously know that they're that They do a good job
most of the time. But in truth guardy, how many
games do you really come out of take away the
team and we were there are the blatant ones. You'll

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come out and say they miss six calls in that
can we see it? But how often, honestly, in an
NBA game do you walk away saying every single call
the calls favored the other team?

Speaker 9 (18:13):
Right? It does they usually?

Speaker 8 (18:14):
Now, there may be in a blatant situation, but if
you go back to the first course, say they miss this,
the cumulative effect usually adds up to where both teams
are complaining the only reason the other team doesn't complain
is because they ended up on the right side of score.
But I want teams to start complaining when they win
by twenty and then we can make some moving now
when you get beat right and I'm not just talking here.

Speaker 9 (18:32):
They did miss calls, but the truth is.

Speaker 8 (18:34):
I almost get to the point that I become a loser,
part of the loser's lament. If that's my constant, I
confess he did it. It's always the referees fault. Listen,
I can guarantee you he may u docus, probably not
coaching them up and getting them ready for Game two
saying hey, he may warn them of the officiating crew
of how they're gonna call it, but he's not making
excuse for last night. He's going to talk to them

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about free throws and knocking down shots when it's there,
and then thecouragement of men. We played pretty good defense,
and you know what you got to do when Stephan
Jimmy Butler involved other than that, and you hope you
get a few breaks on the calls. But throughout the
course of a seven game series, it's rare we're gonna
come out of a series saying we know exactly who
they wanted to win this series. I don't think that
there's no memo down, like you said, from the NBA

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higher ups to say let's screw him over because we
want Steph where he's going to be, although at times
I know it with superstars we can get that feeling.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
If that were the case.

Speaker 6 (19:25):
Then on Saturday, I was watching that Bucks Pacers game
before going to the Astros game, and yeah, I mean,
like the Bucks start going on a run that think
they got it to under ten. If the the you know,
the the what do you call it, the conspiracy is in,
Like okay, then they want Giannis, right, so they're gonna
start making every call of over the Bucks. They didn't

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the Timberwolves and the Lakers. Lakers lost at home to
the t Wolves. If the fix was in, Lebron starts
getting every call and he's going to the line like
we want.

Speaker 8 (19:56):
To make sure the Lakers are up one to nothing
so there's no danger of them losing the series. If
you one, if the fix was in, yeah, listen, I
know it sometimes drives is crazy and we feel like
it exists, and maybe it has. But for the most part,
refs are rarely gonna be one where we're sitting on
one side even if you win it saying, man, well
we got all the calls in that one. It just

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it usually is because your team gets beat. We're looking
for a reason. I get it. But the series isn't
going to be decided by the officials in this one's
gonna be decided by can you defend their two best
players and can you knock down free throws? Score some
points when necessary?

Speaker 6 (20:30):
Yeah, there's people like there were certain refs that you
don't want to see. You know that the people just
have have it out for and and different you know,
different bad wrestles.

Speaker 9 (20:39):
Those guys are well documented for years.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
It was Tony Brothers was was up there. But I
guess the new the new enemy of Rockets fans that
I'm seeing out there is this guy James Kpers. People
are angry at him because he's had some bad calls.

Speaker 9 (20:53):
So I don't know.

Speaker 6 (20:54):
Look, they can't they're doing their best. They're just somebody's
got to ref the game. And Steph Curry is going
to get calls.

Speaker 9 (21:02):
He just is.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
He's a star in this league. And and I'll go figure.

Speaker 8 (21:06):
But that's the next thing I was going to say, Gord,
to your one hundred percent correct Over the course of time,
Magic Johnson got more calls than the other point guard. Yeah,
Michael got more calls. Lebron gets more calls.

Speaker 9 (21:18):
They do.

Speaker 8 (21:18):
Tony Gwynn gets more calls. Wade Boggs got more calls.
Why because they really they're a help to the umpires
and the referees, especially in baseball. Oh, he didn't swing
at it. Okay, that's got to be a ball. Same
thing here. It's a well quarterbacks get special treatment that
we know fifteen in Kansas City. It hadn't been shy
of that, and you're not going to give it back.
If they're going to give it to you're gonna take it.

(21:39):
It's always it's rare unless the star is a complete
butt head to referees. Regularly, they're gonna get favored in
the calls just because well, it's this. It's the it's
our fascination with celebrity and superstars. Even officials have it. Yeah,
it's but it's not a mandate.

Speaker 6 (21:58):
I see people are. It was one of seventy nine
to seventy five. There was five minutes to go in
the game. They missed the the out of bounds on Warriors.
They called that out of bounds on the rockets and
then moments later Steph hits that incredible three and it
goes to eighty two seventy five, and that was changed,
as she wrote, it changed the momentum. But I see
somebody else said, yeah, if you want to talk numbers,

(22:19):
let's talk about how Jalen Green and Fred Van Vliet
were seven of thirty four for seventeen points.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
Like that just can't that can't happen.

Speaker 6 (22:27):
Chris Mannix tweeted out, he said, rockets badly need Jalen
Green to be a reliable scorer in this series.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
He was one of seven in the first half.

Speaker 9 (22:34):
You're not gonna win that one.

Speaker 6 (22:35):
Paging Jalen Green, bro, we need you to be the alpha.
You wanted that big fat contract they reward. Are you like,
let's go be the alpha? And it was he was
not that.

Speaker 8 (22:44):
Give couple a couple one of those type of performances
like Shan Gun had last night. Now we're having a
different conversation possibly this morning. But it's a chance for
them to go. And it's not the fact that Jalen
Green can score thirty, it's how consistent will he be
in these in these series as they go oh, and
the grind of boom, same team constantly they gain plan
you they see and see, okay, take away this, can

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you create something somewhere else? And that's the next level
to his star power? Is this these moments like this,
But you can't go as you said, one for six
or one for seven, it just can't happen. And those
two combined, that's got to be one person's points and
that's got to be your third guy knocking down seventeen
eighteen nineteen points.

Speaker 9 (23:24):
Yeah, that's why it's got to be in this series,
because those two guys are going to score.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
What you're feeling. I feel like they win Wednesday.

Speaker 9 (23:29):
I do.

Speaker 8 (23:29):
I think they go on the road way if they
put it this way, if they go down two oh,
going there, Well, no, say it's obviously statistically they're still
in it. I wouldn't. I wouldn't because you're not going
may not come back. That's exactly right, So be careful. Yeah,
they have to win this game. And I know when
people say, well, is it really must when they're not eliminated?
To me, it's it's it's much easier to get to

(23:52):
three to oh than it is to two oh. Does
that make sense. Yeah, so it's a great opportunity for
the Rockets. You do not want to go back and
there building down two.

Speaker 6 (23:59):
Oh the crazy part is you'll have done three shows
Sean before we get the next game.

Speaker 8 (24:04):
Of course, yes, we'll have it broken down more than
they haven't broken down the damn shelves.

Speaker 6 (24:09):
Oh yeah, it's nuts. It's crazy space this thing out.
We're gonna play three playoff games in a week, like, oh,
just take take take, take as many days off.

Speaker 9 (24:17):
As you want.

Speaker 8 (24:18):
Yeah, and then the losing team after game one, you
gotta let it fester, like right here we go. We're
not playing again for there's four weeks watching that film.

Speaker 9 (24:25):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 8 (24:25):
The truth is, Yeah, if you're email, you're like, let
me show it to you once to get it, and
then we'll give you the cutups. You can watch your
individual position, but I'm not going to show it twice
because there's certain things that may make it to open
your mouth.

Speaker 9 (24:35):
Let's move on to the next one.

Speaker 8 (24:37):
You don't want to belabor it, but you do got
to see it because they're going to be sick on
some of the things, and they'll be pissed at a
couple of the officials calls to you.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
Can I tell you that that new practice facility, it
is the state of the art. They have like charts
on the wall that like are tracking guys like motion
and stuff.

Speaker 8 (24:51):
It's unconstant movement. Yeah, and they're and they're registering it
on a regular basis.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
There's a big theater room they have there. It's it
rivals that of the movie theater down the street.

Speaker 8 (25:00):
Oh yeah, they got if they if you if they're
they're watching films, that's exactly right, at least until the
off season.

Speaker 6 (25:07):
Right, all right, we will switch gears coming up next.
I do need to tell a story Sean, of some
trouble with the ballpark over the weekend.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
We'll discuss that coming up next.

Speaker 9 (25:18):
Sean Salisbury show continued.

Speaker 8 (25:22):
Well, I don't have anything, okayot oh no, I was
just trying to get this headset working again.

Speaker 9 (25:26):
It's a good little in and out. No, I'm good.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
Yes, a couple of years the pope talk.

Speaker 9 (25:31):
Yeah, how how old was he in his nineties or
late eighties?

Speaker 8 (25:34):
Eighty? Yeah, I felt like a little younger, right.

Speaker 9 (25:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (25:38):
When I say that, did you was getting healthy? For
a minute, I thought, you know, he's getting better but
I guess eighty eight. Yeah, okay, there you go, So
long life lived.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
Did you watch the movie Conclave?

Speaker 9 (25:49):
Who's in that? Is it about the pope?

Speaker 6 (25:52):
Yeah, it's about the electing of pope voting for a
pos I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
It just came out. It was nominated for all Academy
Awards and stuff.

Speaker 8 (25:59):
The position in the last year. Yeah, okay, I didn't.
I didn't see. If that's a twenty twenty four movie,
I didn't see. Yea, it's a pretty good movie. She's
a good actor. Yeah, it's gonna be you know, it's
it's gonna happen. It's it's they're gonna have the whole
group get together and all that.

Speaker 6 (26:16):
But uh yeah, we were there last or two years
ago and got to go to the Sistine Chapel and
all that, and you see the little thing where they
burn the votes or whatever, and that's what makes the
smoke and all that stuff so.

Speaker 9 (26:28):
A really cool thing in person.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:30):
Yeah, they don't like, you can't take any pictures in
the Sistine Chapel and all that, but fair enough. Yeah,
but it's it's pretty cool to see all that in person.
And uh yeah, revenue popes.

Speaker 9 (26:39):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 8 (26:41):
No, no, no, no, I uh, I can't run my own nose,
let alone run a religion. So I'm I'm good, but
I hate nothing but respect for that cloth.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
It's its own world.

Speaker 9 (26:53):
Yes, it is in the city. It's like a fortress up.
It's got to be. It's got to be.

Speaker 8 (26:58):
You know when people talk about going to like Jerusalem
or people to spiritual places in their life, right, whatever
those might be. And and going to the Vatican, just
understand the history and the pope and what's going. Like
you said, it's it's kind of its own. It runs
its own uh hold everything. It's right, it's it's it's

(27:20):
its own empire. Let's put it down. I mean that
the right way. But yeah, it's and I have the
process that's going to I think it would be pretty
intriguing and interesting process. How they sit there and set
at the high table trying to decide who the next pope.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
Well that's what the Conclave movie makes it very political,
like it's it becomes like, oh, I have my interests
and there's what I think.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
But I think they all kind of give that in.

Speaker 6 (27:43):
When you go in that room to vote, you're right,
you're voting what's what's for the best of the church,
not for your own person. It's not like a lobbyist, right.
It's not like they're all going, I'll do it right, right.
I mean, I'm sure there's some people that dream of
doing it.

Speaker 8 (27:54):
But yeah, but that there comes a lot with it,
sacred position. There are a lot of accountabil responsibility.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
That's the other thing I've heard is like there are
a lot of cardinals as who don't want it.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
Oh, They're like, I'm happy here. I don't want the
pressure of.

Speaker 8 (28:07):
An assistant coach. He doesn't want to be the head coach.
I understand. And it's like the BYU head coach. I'm
sure Notre Dame. There's a similar thought there. Maybe that
a lot of the you know, the schools that are
religious schools and stuff. I know b YU and they
had Andy Reid before, you know, from Philadelphia BYU, and
he was there before at Kansas City.

Speaker 9 (28:27):
Andy.

Speaker 8 (28:27):
You know the talk of when a head coaching job
came up, would they offer to Andy? And I think
they did at one point talk to him. And the
LDS church doesn't look at it as a football it's
a calling. Yeah, So it's a it's a calling for
they you know, pray about. It's a calling from the Lord, right,
So it's not just hey, you want me the head coach.
I mean they're not going to go out and hire
somebody who doesn't believe in God to be the head

(28:48):
coach at b Y, just like they're not going to
do it Notre Dame, just like they're not going to
do it at the Vatican. So but it is, but
there are when it comes to it, it's a I know,
football is a far different experience than running the cat
the church and being the pope. Point is is that
there are some that's like, no, that's a calling too big.
You know that it's okay. I would imagine it can
be overwhelming. I guess this is the point.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
How about Dick Lebo, he was fine being a being
an assistant. You want to be the.

Speaker 8 (29:14):
Guy and you know what Hall of the truth is,
he's a Hall of Fame player, and if we had coaches,
Dick Lebo belongs to the Hall of Fame as a
coach too with his as a defensive coordinator and innovator.
But he's in. But that's exactly right. He Uh, some
guy's Tom Moore and my guy Tom Moore has been
around forever. It's like, I'm good doing this gig. You
guys go ahead and and handle the one with more pressure.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
Yeah, I'm good not being the face of the franchise.

Speaker 7 (29:37):
Agreed.

Speaker 6 (29:37):
Uh, curious your thoughts on this real quick show. We
saw it when we were going to break on TV.
I saw it last night on TV. It was good
to have some some Rockets or some Texans guys out
there supporting the Rockets last night. CJ Stroud was there,
Joe Mixon, Andre Johnson, But it was a little weird
to me. As soon as the game ends, CJ. Stroud

(29:57):
runs up to Steph Curry and he's buddy, buddy with It's.

Speaker 9 (30:00):
Almost like, CJ.

Speaker 6 (30:02):
Stop, bro, We're Houston sports fans were hurting a little bit.
We just lost in that guy going up to him.

Speaker 8 (30:07):
My thought is just going the tunnel and when it
comes out of the locker room after yeah, and you
give him so that's Crave, he's your buddy.

Speaker 9 (30:14):
I get all that.

Speaker 7 (30:14):
I know.

Speaker 9 (30:15):
The optics are like, wait a second, now, could you
just wait till the series is over? Yeah, to do it.
We'll flip it on the other side.

Speaker 6 (30:20):
What if the Texans lose to the Chiefs and Dylan
Brooks was there and he runs up to mahomesadapts him.

Speaker 9 (30:26):
Up like get out of here. How would you feel like.

Speaker 8 (30:29):
Yeah, even though you want to see your guy, sometimes
the optics are, let's do it back in priory when
he walks by sale, come back and visit you.

Speaker 6 (30:36):
When when the Astros loose to the Tigers and the
walk cart Stroud runs up to a J.

Speaker 8 (30:40):
Hnsch, Hey, good game, I'm big hug you off the
field it or even or the guy did two hit you,
He's the first guy you go up to it and say, hey, man,
great job, love school, Yeah, I love you. Yeah, we're
playing in that tournament together.

Speaker 9 (30:55):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 (30:56):
I think it's just one of those things because you know,
when you draft a guy city, there's no requirement that
you got to be a fan of all the teams
in the city.

Speaker 8 (31:03):
And he may not. He may be a fan of
two other teams.

Speaker 6 (31:06):
I'm sure you know, like some of these guys like
they're from LA I'm sure you're a Lakers fan.

Speaker 9 (31:10):
He might have grown up to Dodger fan. So that's
exactly right.

Speaker 6 (31:12):
But it's almost an unwritten rule when you come to
that city. You're almost kind of the factor. You got
to be a fan of the teams in that city at.

Speaker 9 (31:18):
Least while you're here. That's exactly you do.

Speaker 8 (31:21):
It's not even the fact that it's almost if not,
you got a foolish that you are, right, that's the
way it works.

Speaker 6 (31:25):
Like when you were with the Vikings, would you go
to a Timberwolves game, We're in a Celtics jersey, like, oh.

Speaker 8 (31:30):
Let's go see even as a lifelong diehard Laker fan
while it's there, I just wouldn't wear the jersey of either.
If I'm secretly rooting for the Lakers. Well, I've said
in season tickets in Minnesota, right sitting there watching, I'm like,
they come to town sometimes, just like I'm not going
to run over there. I'll catch them later. There's another time.
So yeah, absolutely, And those were when the Twins were

(31:51):
on their run, right with Kirby Puckett and Dan Bladd
and Jack Morris. That was those teams. So we got
that was a great time to be red. No, exactly,
That's what I'm saying. I'm not gonna think Kirby Puckett
good to see Anyboddy. Oh yeah, this is just the
Jim Rice Jersey from seventy five. Yeah, no, even that,
and you, dude, the energy that you got into the flow.
It's like, yeah, I've become a Minnesota Twins fan regardless.

(32:14):
And you know, even to this day still there's that
little twinge of the pride that when you watch Pucket
and those guys when you were there to watch, you know,
in the Homer Hankies was like and her Beeck and
guy it he was really cool, right, even though it
wasn't your team, You're like.

Speaker 9 (32:26):
You get into it.

Speaker 8 (32:27):
And at that time, guess who was the most important
baseball team.

Speaker 9 (32:30):
In the world.

Speaker 8 (32:31):
The Minnesota Twins were when you're at the game, right,
So yeah, you were one hundred percent correct.

Speaker 9 (32:36):
I'll catch you in the tunnel afterwards. Well who was
it was? CJ.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
Gardner Johnson I think was the one.

Speaker 9 (32:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:41):
He tweeted this two days ago, trying to sit courtside
tomorrow in my new city. Man, like I love it.
He's he just got here and he's like, I'm all
in Rockets.

Speaker 9 (32:50):
I loved you embiid but not now. Yeah you played him.
I'm going I'm a Rockets guy.

Speaker 8 (32:53):
Now.

Speaker 11 (32:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (32:54):
I saw that. I thought, oh, pining for those tickets,
but just make a call. Hey, got it, there you go.
I love it.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
I love that Bracy now no part. Yes, he's pring
himself out.

Speaker 9 (33:03):
Yes, hey, hey, I'm not too proud to beg I'm
ready to.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
Cheer for this team. Never cheer for the Rockets before
I'm all in. I like that from CJ.

Speaker 9 (33:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (33:11):
My guess is if he didn't get courtside by begging
like that, he got close.

Speaker 9 (33:15):
Yeah, I'll tell you that they're not him. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:17):
So Garner Johnson comes in, he's ready to cheer for
the for the Rockets, and while a face of our franchise,
c J.

Speaker 9 (33:23):
Stroud's like, hey, steph, okay stem here.

Speaker 7 (33:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (33:25):
What if? What if Bryce Harper? Now you know how
Philly is Gordy?

Speaker 8 (33:29):
What if all of a sudden, somewhere along the line
in the Stanley Cup Finals, Las Vegas plays the Flyers.
I'm just saying it somebody and where he's from, Vegas,
all of a sudden he comes to throw it in, uh,
you know, the captain's jersey for the Las Vegas Nights
in Philadelphia.

Speaker 9 (33:44):
Guess what?

Speaker 8 (33:45):
He would no longer be healthy enough to play baseball
because they'd find a way he'd be hit with everything
in sight. They would send the message and he would.
But here's the difference. Bryce Harper's smart enough to know
when it comes out. Even if I rooting on him,
I'm not.

Speaker 9 (33:59):
Going to the jersey.

Speaker 8 (34:00):
And obviously CJ didn't wear the jersey and it's his buddy.
I get it, But I do get the little bit
of optics. It's like, now, if we win, it's like, oh,
he's just given a sorry you lost stuff. Go ahead, man,
we got it. But there's just that the optics that like, man,
the unwritten rule. Ye go to that, you go to
that town, you got to be a fan of all
the teams.

Speaker 9 (34:17):
You just do No.

Speaker 6 (34:20):
When we come back, something that perturbed me over the
weekend at the ballpark. We'll touch on that next Shawn
Salisbury show.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
The Sewn Salisbury Show continues, And now you know.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
A little background. The Astros do. They do some bibblehead
giveaways throughout the year. Bob the bobbleheads have become the
biggest giveaway anywhere. I've talked to multiple people in the
in the industry that do marketing and all this and
they say, yeah, they're like, there's just something we do
Jersey giveaways, all this kind of stuff. The bobbleheads are
like the premiere. People just come out in hoards to

(34:55):
get them. So we got there early on Saturday, and
one of to get there was the Josh Hater bobblehead.
And the problem is you gotta watch the fine print
because on some of the giveaways it says all fans,
says all fans, Okay, fine, I could show up right
before first pitch and I know I'm gonna get one.
But majority of these giveaways it says to the first
ten thousand fans. So to the first ten thousand fans,

(35:17):
you know there's gonna be thirty to forty thousand people
at the game, you gotta get there.

Speaker 8 (35:20):
You're gonna be the one standing there, the last guy
not getting one. Right line.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
So we got there early.

Speaker 6 (35:25):
I got there about an hour ahead of time, and
instead of lining, it was already about fifty people in
line ahead of us. So I don't know what time
those people got there, but probably two hours before. But
we get in line, we're waiting, and as we're waiting,
about every fifteen to twenty minutes, it comes a little
group of people behind us. Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me,

(35:46):
nudging their way up because their buddy is holding a
spot in.

Speaker 9 (35:49):
Line in front of us.

Speaker 6 (35:50):
Yeah, and nobody says anything, but I'm just staring them down, like, really,
do you think this is okay? And then to the
point that we are ten minutes from the gate opening,
here comes a group of four. There one body in line.
Group of four comes budgeting up and they come and cut.
I ask you, what is the right number?

Speaker 9 (36:08):
See?

Speaker 6 (36:08):
I think one, right, I think one is the number
you can hold a spot for away or just like
just like, look, I'm the wife and I want to
get line. Husband went to park the car, he's coming
with the kid.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
Whatever.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
I think one. I think anything more than one you're
not allowed to.

Speaker 8 (36:30):
And the one half the one can't be your buddy
that was just decided to have three extra drinks at
the bar and he gets to jump up in front
because well, you're on the spot. It's got to be
significant other. Baby park the vehicle older, so you know,
maybe it was your father, your mother or whatever it is.

Speaker 9 (36:46):
It can't be Listen.

Speaker 8 (36:48):
I'll even cut slack for somebody who had somebody pop
up there. Grandpa brought the young the three year old.
I get there, there's the outliers. But no, no, no, even
if if it's two kids, I don't have a problem with. Yes,
the two kids got here, a fourteen year old and
his little sister. Sure, come on up, of course I
don't care about that.

Speaker 6 (37:06):
But the people and they're laughing and joking, don't do
that either. Come up quietly if you're gonna cut, don't
come up making a scene and laughing and joke.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
Now I'm really angry.

Speaker 8 (37:18):
Because it's almost as if the antagonization is there on purpose,
even if it's not, that's your perception.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
I it sucks for it sucks for real.

Speaker 9 (37:26):
We just got it. It was a great brunch. We had.
Thanks for waiting for us.

Speaker 8 (37:29):
Man, We're like, yeah, no, see eventually, just even for
somebody else, I would have had to say I was surprised.
I would have had to say, you know, man, listen,
this is the first time, young but the second, you know,
six of your budd college buddies come walking up after
and you've been waiting in line and they just got
the extra break. No, no, no, there's got to be
a specific reason on a give. Now, listen, Gordy. If

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it's just I'm in line to get in now. If
I've been waiting, it's one hundred and five degrees. It's
like slow your role here a little bit. But to
let them cut in line because they're there buddies and
there's not a giveaway. Oh cut them flat crap wheel
who hasn't done that? But when it's one of those, is.

Speaker 6 (38:06):
The giveaway that's limited quantity and which is their number
one give You don't get to just come and cut
in front of us.

Speaker 8 (38:13):
The only protocol is called common sense and respect and
not only And you don't get to do it twice,
like you said. If one person comes up there once
because it's somebody parked the vehicle, your husband parked and
mom got up the wife got up there, or are kids,
you don't get to do it like we're three different
groups come at three different times because you're the one
holding twelve spots for somebody. Absolutely not I would agree

(38:34):
with you, Like what's a dynasty. I'll tell you what
is it? Just one person getting in line with you
And it can't be your teenage buddy because he was
just late to the party. It's got to be it's
a significant other and there's got or a kid.

Speaker 6 (38:46):
This was some of the comments I got. One guy said, bs,
I move up and jump in front of that whole group.

Speaker 9 (38:51):
Excuse me, yeah, excuse me?

Speaker 6 (38:53):
Oh yeah, sorry, yeah, see I was back there, but
you cutting front me, so that I'm gonna cut in
front of you.

Speaker 8 (38:56):
That's exactly right. Guys, see right there, and you know
you somebody to do it. There's no doubt I get
to a point just out of the pure common sensor.
I'm not worried about what they think about it, but
I'm also sitting here. Nobody in that line was thinking
anything different than what you were. You get to a
point like you know what, No that this is. They
don't get to pull this bully off. If only one
of you gets it, then you guys can bid over,

(39:18):
meaning that group you get to bid over who got
it and who deserves the dog on bobblehead. I'm not
giving you a fourth not giving you a hall pass
for five people.

Speaker 6 (39:26):
Big Jay said, one is allowable, maybe two if it's
a child. Right, If it's a home boys or girlfriends,
hellna get your ass to the back of the line.

Speaker 9 (39:34):
Isn't it the truth?

Speaker 8 (39:35):
Yeah, even like you said, even girlfriends their age, No no, No,
you want to double down. No, you're gonna wait over there.
You get in one. That's the way it is. Yes,
kids or significant other other than that, you get there's
there's a line bruin, and you got to get in
the back of it. And if you miss out, that's, oh,
well happens. Now. I understand if some kid came running up.
I'm just I'm the guy who would be the last

(39:57):
one to get one, and the kid behind me would
be oh man, love, I grew up in Milwaukee. It's
like Sande will follow. But it's like it's it's your biblehead. Okay,
I'll go outline and order one from moreks, but where
it's not free. But yeah, I but there's got to
be protocol and you are one hundred percent correct that
is that's not that that's a rule that should be

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etched in stone forget unwritten.

Speaker 6 (40:19):
The Pirates did a give Paul Skin's rookie ball head
giveaway and Sarah, they said the line was over the bridge. Oh,
I'm sure outside is a PNC park, whatever the park
is now it was like down the street, down across
the bridge, over the waterway, Like good god, you.

Speaker 9 (40:34):
Think he's pulling any weight in Pittsburgh right now.

Speaker 5 (40:36):
Yeah, I think I think he's a little bit of.

Speaker 8 (40:37):
A Yeah, I understand why you'd want it, But if
it gets to that point, I gotta wait line that long.
I probably say that the fifteen bucks i'd either spend online.

Speaker 9 (40:45):
Or whatever that what does a bibblehead go for? Like that?
We'll do. But if you went on line to get
a Paul Skins bottle that want to cost.

Speaker 6 (40:51):
One hundred bucks they're going for right now, I'll really
I will tell you a little bit later in the show.
Whole nother side of this thing, there's some dirt bags
hoarding the bobbleheads. They get them in a bag, they
run out and they immediately go put them on here
a profit loser, the biggest loser in the world. Yes,
what are you really profiting?

Speaker 9 (41:10):
Right?

Speaker 7 (41:10):
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Speaker 8 (41:11):
Yeah, because I had no I don't know if they're
fifteen bucks or I've never bought one on my sixty
to one hundred. Right, that's what you're like, the Skens
is paying. You're paying a C note.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
For his Absolutely wow, absolutely all right.

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Speaker 6 (43:26):
We'll sleepy if you stayed up watching the Houston Rockets
drop game one of their first round series against the
Golden State Warriors.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
Ninety five to eighty five. Astros tick two out of.

Speaker 6 (43:37):
Three against the best team in baseball of San Diego
Padres and of course the NFL Draft just days away.
Who will the Texans take pick number twenty five? Kick
that around a little bit later in the show, Seawan
the Rocket or Astros taking care of business. This is
that time of year where you start saying you go
to say one team and you say the wrong one.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
It just did I do it once a day?

Speaker 8 (43:58):
I want to say that I'm talking Rockets, and all
of a sudden, Texans come out when you yeah, when
I was talking Houston Cougar's, you're talking the team from Texas.

Speaker 9 (44:06):
Oh yeah, it's.

Speaker 8 (44:06):
Crazy Rockets, the Texas No, yes, one of those teams local.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
They take two out of three over the weekend.

Speaker 7 (44:13):
It was.

Speaker 6 (44:14):
It was an interesting series because Friday night, Ryan Gusto,
you know, gets the start, and he does well enough,
goes five innings, gives up the two runs, and then
the bullpen absolutely nails after that and you end up
getting you know.

Speaker 9 (44:27):
Long ball reared its head too.

Speaker 6 (44:28):
Man Cam Smith hits not one, but two home runs
in the game, and everybody's like, hey, welcome to the
Welcome to the show, kid, that was your moment. On Saturday,
they get really good pitching from Hayden west Nesky. He
goes five innings to run ball bullpen again nails, and
it was Christian Walker who awakes from his slumber. He
hits a two run home and you're like, all right, great.

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And then last night it was again Frombert. We got
good fromber Fromber goes six, gives up just the two,
but and h Taylor Scott misses on one piece pitch
to Fernando Tatis and you know again kind of we've
seen the narrative the season. The offense couldn't do enough.
But overall though, I was very impressed with the pitching
you got against that team.

Speaker 8 (45:10):
No doubt elevated in the series. And Gordy I listened,
you give me two to one over the best I
can win a series against the best team in baseball.
And it's not only and Dylan Sees is no chopliver.
You saw him running up there in ninety eight and
ninety nine. And then Suarez comes out of the bullpen.
He's pumping at one O two and one on one.
They ran into some good stuff right and attacked it.
But they to me, whenever you can come out of

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a series beating good teams, it also is a confidence.
So I don't care what anybody says psychologically when a
team comes to you're building playing the way the Patres
have and you can take two or three, get the
type of pitching you want, and even though you didn't
pump out nine or ten runs in a game, you
got some timely hitting that mattered and were able to
come back in Saturday. I'm trying to think I'm mixing

(45:53):
in golf and basketball because I was watching the afternoon
hoops on Saturday. I think they were down two OHO
at one point in the game on Saturday. Weren't they
if I'm not mistaken. So and to come back and
finish that one off, and you mentioned over the weekend,
we're waiting on Walker to get going. Long ball rears
its head and then cam Smith gets his first two,
and then yesterday, if you question what kind of player
he's going to be on the defensive end, what a

(46:14):
running catch going to his left yesterday to stab it
and that ball almost felt like the ball was by
him and still made the play. But listen right now, Gordy,
sometimes you just got to take the l the dude
who's swinging the bat at the plate right now. That
also was a difference with the home run. Tattis he's
pretty good right now. He's pretty He is playing about
as good as you can play in baseball.

Speaker 6 (46:34):
And here's the tough part is, if you want to
blame Taylor Scott for hanging that one and hitting home
run the day prior, you win because of him. He said,
just two shutout innings and he was money. So it's just,
you know, it's baseball. Baseball's going to baseball sometimes. To me,
I put more on last night. The offense needed to
do more. But do you know, Sean, that jose L
Tuvey still batting three to zero two, He is no

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longer the leader on the stem in batting average. Do
you know who leads this team in batting average?

Speaker 8 (47:01):
I'm going to take one guess and say it's possibly
Jacob Myers.

Speaker 5 (47:05):
Jake the Rake.

Speaker 6 (47:06):
Myers is batting three oh five through his first twenty games.
Played pretty incredible.

Speaker 9 (47:12):
Stut.

Speaker 8 (47:13):
I'm telling you, dude, he keeps playing this defense. If
he hits two sixty five this year, will you will win?
Steve even said, we get Steve Sparks on at eight
o'clock today. Steve even said, Sean, I don't care if
it's one like I don't know, but number he was,
he was below them Indoze line. He is with his defense,

(47:34):
I don't care if he's one eight like one seventy five,
and now he's hitting two hundred and one hundred and
twenty five points higher. Should I say than even Well,
we're worried about him being at the Medo's line, and
he really is. He looks pretty solid at the plate too.
It's not it can't it's not fake. Right now, I
don't know if he can sustain this, and he the
truth is even yes, and even as such, the data

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Brown last Wednesday or Thursday, because we switched today, had said,
Manny's started off greade, he goes now, I don't know.
He even admitted, I don't know if we could expect
this the whole season at the plate. I think they're
resigning to the fact they know that this may be
a two thirty to two forty five type hitter. Hopefully
right if you get two forty five out of him,
Gordy like this, yeah, and a clutch hit every now

(48:16):
and then, playing elite center field, You'll take that all day.

Speaker 9 (48:19):
If he gits post.

Speaker 8 (48:20):
Two fifty north to two fifty three hundred, right now,
you got a any All Star Game's gracious.

Speaker 6 (48:26):
His best season was his rookie season where he hit
two sixty every other year two twenty seven, two twenty seven,
and two nineteen.

Speaker 9 (48:33):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (48:33):
I mean, that's that's who he is. But this three
h five is like, who is this guy? The other
thing Sean is aggressive on the base pass. Last year
was his biggest year for stolen bases. He had eleven
this year right now he has seven through twenty games.
Right Jake Myers is on pace to have don't a
thirty forty stolen bases.

Speaker 8 (48:53):
And I think they can even run. I mean, you know,
we know what kind of runner Kyle Tucker was. I
think at some point Cam Smith's going to be one
of those guys, don't you.

Speaker 9 (49:00):
Yeah? I think we watch him.

Speaker 8 (49:01):
He's got great speed and you know, obviously learning pictures
moves as you start to understand Major League baseball, and
now with the minimum I mean the maximum throws they
can make over there. Uh, Jake Myers is given to
opponents what opponents have given to us here running on
a regular and you know, take an extra bases and
do it. And I loved the aggressive base running yesterday.
What was the altove? I don't know how he got

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down to that ball Gordy and punched the ball to
right field and then first to third I think it
was Jake then went first third and then ended up scoring.
But you've seen Payna with some aggressive running to come
home right and listen on the on the run day
when they went up or let's see, was it not
Jake but the next the second run yesterday when the
throw from Tatis was a beautiful throw at the plate,

(49:42):
but the aggressive run to get him in. I can't
even remember who it was. Why was it camp Smith
that beat the throw at home yesterday?

Speaker 5 (49:49):
Smith scored on the sack fly from yord on last night?

Speaker 9 (49:53):
Who was it Saturday? What was it? Was it last night?
Was the throw? I'm getting my talking trying to think
of a Saturday.

Speaker 8 (50:01):
But it was a one where Tattoos positioned himself, was
at the high fly ball to right field and then
cam Smith tagged and Tatisse made a great throw because
he positioned himself.

Speaker 9 (50:09):
But he was saved at home? Was that yesterday?

Speaker 5 (50:11):
Last Saturday.

Speaker 8 (50:12):
That was Saturday, okay, but they it looks to me
as a team that there's a little more aggressive base running.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
Well, that was the thing. I think it was Friday
or Saturday.

Speaker 6 (50:20):
The Tony Paris Chic at third base once had the
ghost sign on on jan Ar Diez and Yanner held
at third and it was like he was gonna get
dis asked through out.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
So it was there was that, and then there was twice.

Speaker 6 (50:35):
Now that he's put the stop sign up for Jeremy Pania,
Payna's running through and scores. I wonder and people are
under this out there? Are they playing mind games with
the outfielders that Paris cheek is putting up the stop
sign and that's a ghost sign there, and it's a
ghost side they already know, Hey, go that the so
the outfielder doesn't make the throw that he needs to made.

Speaker 5 (50:54):
So I don't know that's.

Speaker 8 (50:55):
But I do like the aggressive of pro Now, listen,
you're right, there's a difference between sending pinions and even
though Yin moves fairly well for a catcher, you're not,
there's a little you gotta be a little bit more
judicious with that depending on what the score of the
game is right, But I do like forcing great outfielders
or outfielders that you don't find that have a great arm,
make them make the perfect throw. Now, Tatisi, you're gonna

(51:17):
challenge him, it better be the right challenge, because the
guy can do it all. Hell, he's doing everything this year,
so but I do like the aggressives. And getting back
to your point about Jake Myers. He's running, he's playing
good defensive centerfield and hitting three plus. Come on, man,
I'll take I'll take that twenty or so games exactly.

Speaker 6 (51:35):
The other thing is ESP had made an interesting decision
last night.

Speaker 5 (51:39):
In their pregame interview.

Speaker 6 (51:41):
They did a sit down with camp Smith and you
really get to see how I mean, this kid is
just he's mature beyond his years.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
He's an a credible interview.

Speaker 9 (51:48):
He's just.

Speaker 6 (51:49):
He's thoughtful, he's charming, he's everything. He's the full package.
But that was their pregame interview with EDWARDO Perez. In game,
they opt to mike up Jeremy Payne, right, and at
one point they go to their in game let's check
it with Jeremy, Jerry, thanks for doing this. Yeah, guy's
no problem, right, Like of all the people to mike
up Painya and PE's a great kid. He's fine, but

(52:11):
like he's just not the most talking at son.

Speaker 8 (52:13):
He actually get some pretty good information talking about it.

Speaker 9 (52:16):
It's just weird. At the shortstop, he's getting ready to
go get a ball in the hole that he's.

Speaker 6 (52:19):
Talking, and every time they go to talk to him,
like Fromber's in his wind up, I'm like, shut up, stop,
let him focus on what's happening.

Speaker 9 (52:25):
The pregnant pause please.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
Yeah, I just think it should have been flipped.

Speaker 6 (52:28):
They should have miked up cam Smith and Wright in
game and do the pregame interview with Panya. But Penia
was just like he wasn't giving them anything at first,
and it was like, just.

Speaker 8 (52:37):
Ask the question. I'm not giving you some long drawn
out answer. I got to focus on where Fromber's pitching
this thing, so I know where to go.

Speaker 6 (52:42):
I did think it was interesting, and I didn't realize
Pinya does. He has this kind of weird stance now
defensively that he does and because he says he's he's
bow legged or like his feet do this, so he stands.
He's like, this is just how I feel comfortable. But
he said kids, you know, ask about it. He's like,
I tell him, don't do what I do right, Like,
you know, play the traditional defensive whatever style. We don't

(53:05):
do what I'd do this just because I'm weird. I
weird builds.

Speaker 8 (53:08):
Yeah, when you get to pro it's like when people say,
well man Brett Farve, I say, don't don't or Muckholmes,
don't practice those mechanics when you throw four hundred touchdown
pass the NFL. I don't care if you yank it
out of your ear and throw it behind your back. Fine,
until we get to that point. Give me a little
bit more sound mechanics. But you're exactly right. Getting back
to this real quick, Gordy.

Speaker 7 (53:25):
You know.

Speaker 8 (53:25):
The whole thing the weekend that told me another level
is that last night when Cam fought off a fastball
up there was like ninety eight yeah, and punched it
to right field off the fists. Not only did you
realize just how strong he is, but to be able
to almost barrel that up and it looked like it
was just above the trademark of the bat. But to
be able to fight that off and go inside out
and hit it the other way, considering that they were

(53:48):
pumping it up, impressive at bat by him. I know,
the home runs and the rest of it. But Gordy,
I you know how sometimes you look at a rookie
in the first month and say maybe they need to
go back and I know early on, but returns tell
me that he can overcome a bad day or a
struggle at the plate, strikeout two or three times, come
back the next day. There's this guy's makeups different. He's mature.

(54:08):
I don't I don't think he's your right fielder. He's
not going anywhere. That's where he's gonna be, and he's
gonna be there the whole year.

Speaker 6 (54:13):
Somebody was bragging because Kyle Tucker's been awesome so far.
The phenomenon they were just it was somebody making a
case on social media like, oh, what the hell would
the Astros thinking giving up Kyle Tucker? And I even
saw some assrooms fans going Jim Cray and you, why
didn't you pay this guy all this?

Speaker 9 (54:27):
Yet?

Speaker 5 (54:28):
We take a step back, go Hayden was Nesky was
money this weekend.

Speaker 9 (54:31):
That's two times now.

Speaker 6 (54:32):
Eastak Paratus has had some big hits for you already.
And Cam Smith, oh yeah, the two home runs on
Frontay night like it seems like an even trade so
far right, bas winning from it, yeah, and and benefiting
from that trade, no doubt. All right, Well, when we
return there, there has been some talk tough Sean about
Thumber Valdez. Should the Astros shop him. I'll tell you

(54:52):
why I'm not on board with that.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
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It is the Sean Salisbury Show seven twenty time for
the Salisbury steak out and Sean questions getting posed by
a lot of Astros fans out there. We saw good
Fromber last night. We've seen good Fromber more than bad
Fromber this year. But being an impending free agent, I've
seen a lot of people saying Astro should trade Fromber. Now,

(55:39):
get something for him. You know he's gonna walk at
the end of the year. Let's get something for him.
I post to you, though, should the Aswers be considering
trading Fromber? They're right in the middle of this Al
West race. Feels like they're gonna be in the middle
of this Al West Race Cup trade deadline doesn't make
you worse.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
Yeah, trade frombur Away.

Speaker 8 (55:56):
Yeah and Del yet absolutely does, especially when it's the
one and he pitched pretty well yesterday. Well, we get
the inconsistency it was, you know, drives people a little
crazy because he's got great stuff, Gordy today, you absolutely can't.
You can't be shopping him right now and it's obviously
way too early. But no reason to shop him now
because the history of this tea, how many guys do

(56:18):
they Gordy, Can we remember that they got rid of
at the deadline that weren't supposed to help as opposed
to brought in the Verlander situation when they brought Drinky
in for five. I mean I understand off season stuff
like what happened to Kyle Tucker. I'm talking about end
season stuff. This team's usually good enough where they're trying
to bring in Cukuchi to get things done and running
to part with assets. So if this team's around and guys,

(56:40):
regardless of how we feel about Frombers up and down
at times, really great stuff and the mental and emotional
stuff that he goes through, people are standing in the
line for a premium lefty across baseball. He's worth Believe me,
Smoltz came on here last week. Smoltz loves him. So
that's the way they feel. And there will be a
long line of free agency and there'd be aligned if
you want, trade him, Gordy, if you're twelve games out

(57:01):
of first place at the trade deadline, trade him, go
get something for him. You're not gonna pay him, or
you may not even then at that time, get get
the hall you wanted. But if you want something, that's
the time to do it. But right now, or if
they're within striking distance. I don't think this franchise thinks like, well,
we're close, let's diminish our team and take away one
of the top left handers in baseball, even though it's

(57:22):
inconsistent at times, and go ship and get somebody to
come in here, because if you get rid of him,
you're gonna be looking what at another pitcher or really
top notch assets.

Speaker 9 (57:30):
Right yeah, that are guys either the minor league.

Speaker 8 (57:32):
Are almost ready to play you know, baseball stuff because
they're at a premium left hander. So no, Gordy, to me,
this is one of those decisions that's made as you
as you see your team develop, and I don't see
any way.

Speaker 9 (57:43):
This team's ten games out of first place at the
All Star Game.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
Yeah, because the run away with this fee.

Speaker 8 (57:48):
Agreed, agreed. So my answer to you is absolutely not
right now now. If you told me, hey, Sean fourteen
games out, they got two guys beat down there on
their out for another month, I think, Okay, you got
to at least entertain it, because I mean, at least
answer the phone. Yeah, make calls, but this team doesn't
seem to. They didn't do it with a lot of

(58:09):
they didn't do it with Bregman, they didn't do it
with Tucker last year. It was an offseason move that
this team, to me, at least since I've been here,
rarely gets rid of guys if they're in the hunt,
meaning guys that they're they're looking to upgrade to make
the run at a World Series.

Speaker 9 (58:25):
I think that's their thought. Probably it's the.

Speaker 6 (58:26):
Same reason why they didn't trade Bregman last year at
the deadline, either like or that that was talked about.
It's like, well he's gonna walk, yes, but they were
going for a playoff run. You're better with Bregman in
your lineup going for the playoff run. They are flip
at him for a prophem.

Speaker 8 (58:39):
And Gordy, you and I they started twelve and twenty four.
If they'd have been twenty four and forty eight or what,
you know what I'm saying, he'd be sure they would
have got rid of him, right. But the fact that
they were around and look what happened. They end up,
you know, taking care of their business. They obviously don't
win the playoff series against Detroit, but this team doesn't
seem to want to play for twenty twenty nine. This
team wants to play for twenty twenty five and the

(59:01):
current year, which I get so I had the Farmer
trade is going to be not on Farmer's success or
failure to me, because we know what he's done. It's
going to be based on where this team is at
that time, and right now is not the time now.

Speaker 6 (59:15):
On the other side of things, when it comes to
the Asters pitching staff, Lance mccullors was coming along Sewan.

Speaker 9 (59:22):
He was doing his thing.

Speaker 6 (59:23):
He was pitching, well, I wait for there was some
thought that man, he's going to rejoin the team in
Kansas City next weekend is this close? And then on
front we hear LANs mcclors scratch from his double A
start with a stomach bug, and it's like, man, I
get it, Like get him the fluids he needs, let's

(59:46):
get him going. But I mean, the word setback is
about to be trademark to lets of colors.

Speaker 8 (59:53):
If I would have heard right after setback, did its
discomfort and his arm somewhere or discomfort there or if
there's a uh what what the what are the this injury?
The oblique injury? I was gonna my head was gonna explode.
When they told me it was stomach virus. I'm like, okay,

(01:00:14):
please tell me it is the stomach virus and he'll
be fine after a little hydration. But when you first
hit scratch, You're like, please don't tell me that there's
discomfort as elbow or tell me that there's there's an
oblique problem.

Speaker 9 (01:00:25):
I'm gonna I'm gonna go crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:00:27):
So mother doesn't have the patients do you know?

Speaker 8 (01:00:32):
You know what he's the patients of job. Okay, all
of us, the entire city waiting. So yeah, I'm just
telling you, man, that was That was thank goodness, and
I don't want anybody to be sick, but thank goodness, it.

Speaker 9 (01:00:44):
Was that and not structural Does that make sense?

Speaker 6 (01:00:47):
And I'm like, it's just this is like all this
build up, like you're you're starting to really buy Oh man,
he's pitching. Well, he's this close, he's knocking on the door.
Here we go. And then he's been scratched from a
star like, oh my god, like what.

Speaker 9 (01:00:59):
Are we doing? Yeah? Please? And and it had to
be him too, right, couldn't have been somebody else.

Speaker 6 (01:01:04):
So now the good news is he is they say,
still targeted for the right getting fluids. He's all that,
He's going to make it. I think even Robert Ford
press Dana Brown last time at the pregame show said
so you think just one more start?

Speaker 5 (01:01:16):
He's like, I don't know, We're gonna have to see.

Speaker 6 (01:01:19):
He may need you know, one after this next one
and then so maybe it's just another week. But I
think there's some caveat with that thirty day, like he
has the thirty days to start the year, and then
they got to make a decision on him at the
at the lower level. So I don't know, we'll see,
we'll see what happens there. But the colors getting close,
but stomach bug.

Speaker 8 (01:01:38):
And just so we have a good idea of understanding,
at least from Dana Brown's conversations with us, none even
Robert Ford. But here on the show is then when
he does come back, Lance mccullors will not be in
the bullpen to start, right. They're going to start him
a start, which means the obvious thing right now is
Gusta goes back to being long relief or filling in

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where you need him. And he was good there too,
and he had a nice job start. But Lance mccullors
is not coming here to, at least at the beginning,
be a bullpen guy.

Speaker 9 (01:02:06):
He's going to be in starting rotation.

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
One more thing of the Astors pitching staff.

Speaker 6 (01:02:10):
So I talked to Spencer Arighedti yesterday in the clubhouse
and I'm like, man, what are the odds on? You know,
just talking to him about that the ball that hits
the thumb covering his head when a fly ball.

Speaker 9 (01:02:21):
And he's like, yeah, man.

Speaker 6 (01:02:22):
I was like, you have a better chance to be
struck back like that than breaking the thumb with a
fly ball. Baseball hitting you right there on the base
of the thumb, right. But we hear that news, and
then we also hear yesterday, Sean Dubin down at Triple
A getting ready to work in his way back and
slips or something on a baseball in the outfield and

(01:02:44):
twist his ankle and.

Speaker 5 (01:02:46):
So so he's a little hopple.

Speaker 9 (01:02:49):
What are we doing there? It's like, this is not
an episode of the Three Stooges. It's not there. Trust me,
It's just not.

Speaker 8 (01:02:55):
And have you ever noticed, like in the outfield fly
like you said, you protect when anybody says it. One
of the dumbest phrases of all time is heads up? Why?
Because what's an issue? When you say heads up? What
do I do? He used to I mean if my
first reaction is I'm going to look up? And then
you finally, after you've played sports, why you say no,
put both hands over your head, dip down, protect your

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mid section if you know what I'm talking about. In
case it's a line drive at you and get in
the fetal position and put your hands over your head
to hope it doesn't get you. But the first heads up,
the first thing, what am I looking form? Bam it
hits you in the face. So folks, to you young guys,
when they say heads up, that actually means heads down,
don't look up, and the fact that you're exactly right,
the chances of him getting hit right there and breaking,

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you know, doing what it did, fracturing a thumb, are like,
you've got a better chance when there's a storm of
being in caddyshack and the hard stuff's not coming down
for hours.

Speaker 9 (01:03:47):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:03:47):
What's the old Mitch Hedberg joke in golf when you
hit a ball at a guy, it's you're supposed to
yell four, right, he goes, But I didn't yell four.
I was too busy saying, ain't no way in hell
that ball is going to hit that guy.

Speaker 8 (01:03:58):
That's exactly And then inevitably, when he said, oh, I
can go for it in two on a par five,
he's two fifty five away, which would take your greatest
three wood of all time down wind right, And all
of a sudden you hit it and you're like, I
just hit my greatest three wood of all time downwind.

Speaker 9 (01:04:14):
And you're like four.

Speaker 8 (01:04:16):
Well, four doesn't mean you're hitting it at me, nor
will we say it's like I hit it way right
or way left or snap hooked it.

Speaker 9 (01:04:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:04:23):
Now you're there's a part of you that says I
like that four because I hit its flush. But then
you got to go up and apologize on the green
sent in my bad. I never hit a shot like
that in my life, so I decided to go for
it so I wouldn't hold the group up, and I
smoked it right down.

Speaker 9 (01:04:35):
Those don't happen very like.

Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
Yeah, okay, happy Gil.

Speaker 9 (01:04:38):
Exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:04:39):
When we return here on the Sean Salisbury showould you
need to get back into a little bit of Rockets discussion.
We'll post the question watching what Steph and Jimmy Butler
are doing. Does this mean the Rockets need to get
a guy like Durant? The soft Seas won't discuss that next.

Speaker 9 (01:04:56):
The Sewn Salisbury Show continued. I feel differently now.

Speaker 6 (01:05:01):
I mean one games tways your now you go back
and look the history of the past few years. In
a lot of these first round playoff series, there's always
a team that loses Game one and we write them
off and they come back to win. So it's it's
easy to overreact because it's just what we saw.

Speaker 8 (01:05:17):
Tell you what won't be overreaction get down to going
back home home to Golden State.

Speaker 9 (01:05:21):
That's not a good thing that we're going to take
care of their business. Yeah, that's when you.

Speaker 6 (01:05:24):
Get into those odds where they show like the odds
and it's like teams that go down oh two rarely
ever come back.

Speaker 8 (01:05:30):
Yeah, and especially going down oh two and you're headed
on the road. Yeah, not a good thing.

Speaker 9 (01:05:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
I want to get to you guys on the phone lines.

Speaker 6 (01:05:37):
We'll pose a question to you in a second shot
about the superstardom and you know, is that what the
the missing piece of this Rockets team is going to
need to address this offseason. Let's get to the phones.
A lot of you guys have been waiting. Let's talk
to Al on the South side. Al, welcome in, Man,
how are you?

Speaker 9 (01:05:53):
Hey? What's up?

Speaker 7 (01:05:54):
Bruddy?

Speaker 9 (01:05:54):
Look got Sean? Hey man? A great show. Uh.

Speaker 13 (01:05:58):
Let me pose two points. Real h that skipping in
the line shun. I just think that the older people's
that that's optional for the guy that's coming to the game.
You paid your money. I'm kind of old school with that.
Get in line. I don't agree. If I okay to
skip in front of me, that's fine, but you need
to get to the game just like everybody else. Because

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guess what, I'm standing in line alonger while you skip it.
I don't care a kid or none of that. Let
that be my option because shun shun shun. What you
does is you start a domino effect because people look
at that and then they use they kid. See what
I'm saying. That's why growing up, shun back when we did,
you stand in line, and the older people will be
more like, hey, why is he cutting now? I don't

(01:06:42):
want to cut in line. Were gonna stay here like
everybody else. It's all about the respect thing. Let that
be one of the option to skip it. Because when
you start the skipping shun people looking and then they
get their kid, then you got a whole domino effect.

Speaker 7 (01:06:55):
No, I don't care what it is.

Speaker 13 (01:06:57):
Getting get to the game early, if you got to
other people whatever, because you know they can't stand alone.

Speaker 9 (01:07:02):
Get to the game just like me. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 13 (01:07:05):
I understand that I'm not being harsh, but you need
to get to the game on time early, just to
look out for the people that you bringing that's more
handicap or whatever. But at the same time, Sean, I
don't know what the rockets. I'm glad the draft coming up.
I'm pumped on that. I'll get into that to Marble whatever.
But the rockets of Green, I don't understand. I think
he had two points water in the first quarter, first half.

(01:07:28):
Say man if email Doper can't get that guy a
few years he been in the league to bring his
game and we'll see and not prejudging him in the series.
I don't know if we trade him or not, because obviously, Bro,
you not mentally there. You need to come on with it. Man,
It's like you're the team. You're Green. I mean, you're
supposed to have help O friend she and Goon like, man,

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what are we doing here?

Speaker 9 (01:07:50):
Sean?

Speaker 13 (01:07:50):
I mean, like, come on, man, I hang up and
get you take thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:07:54):
I'm gonna judge. I'm gonna wait till the series is
over to see where I were the playoff.

Speaker 9 (01:08:00):
Jalen Green fits in for me, right, I'm not gonna now.
Al's right.

Speaker 8 (01:08:05):
The consistency and I don't see why his head would
be anywhere, but in it people have bad games, so
I will see. It's the consistency and the trust factor
that we're gonna have to fight. And I'm sure he
made Doak is looking at the same thing, So yeah,
I get the frustration with him.

Speaker 9 (01:08:20):
You're exactly right about.

Speaker 8 (01:08:21):
The respecting line and hang with it in the old
domino effect. But still when somebody jumps up there, it's like, oh,
come on, man, you know, get your placeline. But you're
one hundred percent correct, So Gordy for me, I just
the Jalen Green thing, I'm going to hold off on
happen to be the first one to do it, just
to be the one that gets it right, because I've
seen too much of him to say that that this

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poor playoff game is the way I'm going to judge him.

Speaker 9 (01:08:47):
After a full season. I think he's gotten better every year.

Speaker 6 (01:08:50):
He ye has, so he's gotten better every year, average
at twenty one points a game this year. Made a
huge leap defensively this year and that's kind of that's
a non negotiable with the like, you want to play
for this team, you gotta play defense.

Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
But yeah, man, not a great start.

Speaker 6 (01:09:05):
First game, first playoff game for Jalen Green ever, was
not great.

Speaker 5 (01:09:08):
But it's why it's the seven games here.

Speaker 8 (01:09:10):
And you'll know who's overwhelmed and who isn't because this
is new, this is different territory for them. Yeah not
all you know, Van Vliet's got a ring and we
know people have played in him, but it can be
different territory. And it also sometimes you're also you walk in.
I'm not saying you're scared or overwhelmed, but by the
time you get into it and you start to take
a deep breath because everybody, whether it's a golfer an

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NBA player, have been in it, there's still nerves going.
Well by the time you take a deep breath, quit hyperventilate.
And it is the playoffs, you're in the third quarter.
So sometimes that first one was like, Okay, let me
gather myself. It won't shock me if he comes out
in scores twenty nine, you know, in game two. But
you need the consistency because they can't get through this
with the offensive firepower that they have, especially with the

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top two guys and stuff and Jimmy Butler. You're gonna
have to have him play a consistent series and if
he doesn't, then somebody else is going to have to
be that guy, because I think sham Goon's going to
dominate his position the entire series.

Speaker 9 (01:10:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:10:03):
By the way, Fred van Vliek club option for him
this offseason forty four point nine million. Fred, you got
to hit more threes if you want that forty four
nine million.

Speaker 8 (01:10:12):
I can't believe when you told during the break that
he makes forty four the next season. Yeah, I didn't
realize he was making that forty.

Speaker 6 (01:10:19):
Two million this year. I mean, again, it's the price
of playing poker for some of these. But remember that's
how they got him.

Speaker 7 (01:10:25):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:10:25):
The whole thing was they wanted him to come in
and be that culture guy, and.

Speaker 6 (01:10:28):
It's been awesome. We also need to hit shots. If
you're making forty two million.

Speaker 8 (01:10:33):
He'll tell you what culture gets better when you win
two pretty knock down shots. There's no and he's been
really good here, there's no question. But that's a decision
they're going to have to make this offseason, which is
going to get to the question that you posed up
that we're going to get to about is there something
else they need? And if there is, in order to
get somebody with big money, guess what you got to do,
find a way to have the spot for the big

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money guy.

Speaker 6 (01:10:55):
Yeah, yeah, Fred, last night two for thirteen from three,
and one of those came late, so it was really
one for twelve when it mattered. Let's get the geo
on a Taska seea in here, Geo, what's up, hey.

Speaker 14 (01:11:07):
Guys, great show as usual, Man. I just want to
touch on the Rockets game last night real quick.

Speaker 15 (01:11:12):
After sleeping on it last night, man, I woke up
this morning.

Speaker 14 (01:11:14):
And thought to myself, we could really use a guy
like Kevin Durant last night in the game. And I'm
on board with bringing him on the team this offseason, man,
because if you look at it, last night, him goole
was getting his and hats off to Steven Adams, man,
because he was, you know, doing all the dirty work,
getting the rebounds, giving us extra possessions.

Speaker 7 (01:11:36):
Steven Adams was great last night, man.

Speaker 14 (01:11:37):
But we need that solidified bucket getter on this team
because if you look at what the Warriors were doing,
every time they needed a bucket, they would either go
to Curry or Jimmy Butler, and you know they pulled
it out for him, man.

Speaker 7 (01:11:51):
So we definitely need.

Speaker 14 (01:11:53):
Someone like Kevin Durant who in crunch time, give him
the ball, let him go to work, let him cook,
and let him get buckets.

Speaker 7 (01:12:00):
Guys appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (01:12:01):
Thanks to the call, GEO.

Speaker 6 (01:12:02):
That's that's gonna be the question, and we'll discuss that
coming up next oppose the question to Sean, is this
team need Kevin Durant. Now we were kicking around where
it would be a fun idea, but it seems like
watches stuff, Curry and Jimmy Butler go to work and
grunt some of a playoff game. Do they need that
superstar pedigree. We'll kick that around next. Coming up here

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Speaker 6 (01:13:46):
Does this team need an Alpha? Do they need a
Kevin Durant? Now it won't be easy. Durant is making
fifty one million next year from the Suns, so they're
gonna have to find a way to make the salaries match.

Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
But would you you.

Speaker 6 (01:14:01):
Know a few weeks ago I was saying, no, this
young core, you work so hard, sucks so bad to
work so hard. To get those high draft picks, to
get at to Barie Smith, get a Jalen Green read Shepherd.
List goes on and on. But when I watched Jimmy
Butler and Steph Curry last night in a playoff game, Sean,
I started to go, God, maybe we do need that

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proven superstar.

Speaker 9 (01:14:23):
Maybe you do need it Durant on this team. Yeah, and.

Speaker 8 (01:14:27):
You know, assuming the money salaries, the salary, you know,
match up and you could pull it off at the
trade deadline. Gordian, I know, we got Biscuit, who's going
to call into I think he feels the same way.
But he wanted to go in. At first, it was like,
don't disrupt it. But then you start to see, say,
I want kind of the same philosophy the question you asked,

(01:14:48):
So the surface part of me always says, one, what
will it do to the surrounding guys in the clubhouse
or locker room? Should I say in this case? And
then the second is does he still have that kind
of game? Whether it's Kevin Durant or whether it was
Booker or Julius as somebody that was an alpha that
took it to another level. Durant being a name that
can still knock down shots and do his thing. As

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we said today, the answer is yes, but at what expense?
Is my thing that that's the only thing? At what expense?
What are you willing to part with? And I always
say is the with They do have assets, there's no question,
But are you willing to part with? Is it the
piece that you like, Gordy or you love? And I
know I use that phrase a lot. If you just

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like it, I'm not sure it's worth it. But if
you say I got one player, give me over the hump.
And in truth, Golden State said that to go out
and sign Jimmy Butler, right, they said it, and I'll
be damned. I mean, he's jumped right and hit the
ground running. Now is a headache bigger with Jimmy was
a headache bigger than the production? Well, the production has
been bigger than the headache since he's been there. But

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he always does this. Jimmy goes in right away and
the team instantly gets better. Right now, So when his
name was coming up here and you know, Kevin Durant's rabbi,
he hears everything, he knows what's going on. But a closer,
a guy that you know has been in him with
a good supporting cast. I don't think Kevin will go
to a team and just be a star around five
average players or four average player should I say, Gordy?

(01:16:13):
I don't think he's at that level anymore. He'll still score,
but we're at hell even to win the championships. Look
what he had to go do to be parted with,
you know, partnered with a good team at Golden State
and go win his gig. Right, So yeah, I don't
even know if he has to be the number one daily,
but in situations like this to close out, knock down
three threes at the end, I absolutely think it would

(01:16:35):
be a plus, There's no question. But I always got
to know what's the disruption with the guys in the
locker room? And two is where's is he still got
enough that if I need him and to carry me?
Is he the difference in us getting to the playoffs
and getting through the playoffs? And the question is would
loom out there with Kevin Durant.

Speaker 6 (01:16:53):
The crazy thing is the Warriors, all they really gave
up was Andrew Wiggins that first round pick to get
Jimmy Butler right now kind of running this through, but.

Speaker 8 (01:17:01):
They still go in for the disruption possia. Because listen,
when you first think a, I didn't mean to interrupt you,
but we think of Jimmy Butler and Draymond Greeney thinking,
I got this is a migraine waiting to happen, right,
how is it going to work out?

Speaker 9 (01:17:12):
But they took the risk.

Speaker 8 (01:17:13):
As my point, regardless what it took to get him,
you can see as we see sitting right here, they're
gratefully did because they are now as as a team
that had to come in and you know, play their
way in the Golden State.

Speaker 9 (01:17:25):
Warriors are still a legitimate threat in the West.

Speaker 6 (01:17:28):
There's no doubt now running through the NBA trade machine,
they this because fer Van Vliet has the club option
for next year. It has him with a big xter
that you can't trade him for the So he's forty
two point eight million, but it has him as a
non tradeable on the ESPN trade machine. So okay, if
we're just taking current salaries to make this work, it

(01:17:48):
takes a lot to add up to the fifty one
million for Kevin Duranchaw. So here is the hypothetical trade
that I ran through that says it's successful. You tell
me if you would give this up Dylan Brooks at
twenty two million, Jabari Smith at nine point seven million,
Read Shepherd at ten million, Jock Landell at eight, and
Cam Whitmore at three. Would you give up that five?

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Jabari Smith, Dylan Brooks to theoretical starters and then read Shepherd,
Jacklandell were just thrown in and of course Cam Whitmore.
You know teams will look at as a as a
potential something there.

Speaker 5 (01:18:23):
But would you give up those five for Durant?

Speaker 9 (01:18:27):
Oh man?

Speaker 6 (01:18:28):
And that allows you to keep Fred next year in
the club option. So you got Fred at point, you
got your Jalen Green at the two. You still got
Shangoon down low, you put down Kevin Durant. That's a
pretty damn good five.

Speaker 9 (01:18:44):
You know, Gordy Okay?

Speaker 8 (01:18:45):
And then let me ask you one to you're the
general manager, I'm your I'm emay and you're there, you're there,
you're rafel Stone, okay, And I ask you you asked me,
or we kind of goes to two way Street. Are
we better with that trade next year? That's one because
if you're making that deal, you're not making it for
twenty twenty nine. You're making it that you think you're

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an NBA finalist, contender with a chance to win it.
So I'll ask you, as the general manager, does that
trade get us closer to the NBA Championship next year?
And what's your answer?

Speaker 9 (01:19:18):
I feel like.

Speaker 6 (01:19:19):
It does, okay, because Jalen's better and Aman's bet like
you expect, all those guys will continue to grow and
get better.

Speaker 8 (01:19:24):
Okay, So we are a better team in twenty twenty
five twenty twenty six season with that trade.

Speaker 9 (01:19:28):
Is that a yes or no? Yes? Okay?

Speaker 8 (01:19:31):
And if I'm Mayu Doka and I believe the same thing,
then you pull that trigger.

Speaker 9 (01:19:35):
Now it's it's listened.

Speaker 8 (01:19:38):
You're also like your rear ends you couldn't drive a
stake through it with a dog on sledgehammer because you
want that to work out. But sometimes you got to
make that deal. And it's only one question for me, Gordy,
does it fit and does he make us? Does he
give us an instantaneous chance to win the DNBA title?
Because you're not making it a Kevin Durant deal, like
I said, for three years down the road, You're just

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not You're making it because do you think right now
we are capable of winning the whole thing. And if
the answer in the buildings, yes, make the trade and
not worry about when you've been on social media says
because they'll be backlash from it.

Speaker 9 (01:20:09):
No doubt.

Speaker 6 (01:20:09):
Even at thirty six shown he averaged twenty six and
a half points, six, six rebounds and four assist the game.

Speaker 9 (01:20:15):
Oh there's no doubt he can play. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (01:20:17):
And on this team with a lot of this support,
where he's got a shn goon and he's got Jayalen
Green who can score. He can get his twenty five
in his sleep. You and I both know that. So
if it makes us all around a better team with
a chance to win the NBA Championship, I'm one of
those guys. I'm more of a I want it now,
and if I can get it now, I'll take it.

Speaker 9 (01:20:35):
Because listen, even if you.

Speaker 8 (01:20:37):
Win the ring and you go three years where you're
like still you're in the playoffs but you're not and
Durant retired, but you won the ring the first year.
To me, the ring's always worth struggling the next year.
I don't want to, but the ring on the finger
replaces that. What if for the next year or two, Well,
we'll build it back up. We got enough good young talent.

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That's another thing. There's enough young talent to where you
can keep the cupboard stocked and still go even if
Durant was a one year guy, or if in two years,
you know, Van Vliet left after this team option, they
picked him up. So the answer is if it makes
us better with a chance to win the NBA Championship
next year, and that's one hell. Put it this way,
it's a better starting five. Yeah, because of who the
guy is. And at thirty six, like you said, he

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can blink his way to twenty five a game. I
think that's probably and we know what he's done when
he crosses the timeline. You put the ball in his hand,
when he brings it up the floor, he can make
things happen still at his age with his long range
jump shot.

Speaker 6 (01:21:31):
Like I said, I've been full in on the rebuild
and you know, young Cory, you got to keep all
these guys together, and then I watch them fall flat
lesson Now maybe it's just a growing pain. It's like
maybe this is just this is step one of the youth,
right and they just need they're.

Speaker 5 (01:21:45):
Gonna lose to the Warriors in the series, but.

Speaker 6 (01:21:47):
They got their feet wet, right, and in twenty twenty six,
they're gonna take that step even for I don't know,
maybe that's how they think about this, but I just
look at it and go The two best players on
the court last night outside of Shanngoun were Butler and Curry.

Speaker 5 (01:22:00):
Give me one of those guys.

Speaker 8 (01:22:01):
If in fact, you come out of this series, Gordy,
and you lose the series, and you come out of
this series saying we needed a star, you know what
that means, then you gotta go get one.

Speaker 9 (01:22:09):
Yeah, a closer. It's good.

Speaker 8 (01:22:11):
It's that at his age still has got quite a
bit to offer as a basketball player.

Speaker 6 (01:22:17):
Jalen Green, the pressure is on, bro, you bet you
got to step up this series. You got to prove
you're an alpha, and if you're not, we gotta go
get an out.

Speaker 8 (01:22:24):
Well, and it may be very well on him to
prove he's an alpha so the next guy doesn't come
and make him still the guy who's not the alpha.
That's exactly right. He has a chance to close the
door on that. Yeah, he does. Still young, I mean,
there's no question, but man, it's just the old the
old guys, the old vets looked pretty damn good last night.
The temptation to have yourself at twenty six to twenty

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eight a night. It's tough to pass up in a
guy who's got rings on his finger. I would get it.
I would understand why they did it, especially if you're
just telling yourself we got a chance to We're not.
You're not just doing it for the look. You're doing
it for the soul of the trade to go win
an NBA time. If you feel that's the case, you've
got to pull it.

Speaker 6 (01:23:02):
We'll come back. We'll circle back to that topic in
hour number three. Coming up next, though, we will switch
gears talk some astros take it two out of three
against the Padres. Steve Spark's gonna join us for his
weekly segment to talk all things astros.

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You're Houston Astros take two out of three against the
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Speaker 5 (01:24:01):
Couldn't finish off the sweep. But that's all right.

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You got the series and join us now for his
weekly segment to talk all things Houston.

Speaker 9 (01:24:07):
Astros.

Speaker 6 (01:24:07):
Is our guy, Steve Sparks from the Astros Radio Network.

Speaker 9 (01:24:11):
Steve, welcome in, man, Thank you very much.

Speaker 10 (01:24:14):
I can always tell when you go take a leak
you come back. That music last a little bit longer
coming back from right you zipping up his pants.

Speaker 9 (01:24:24):
Empty studio, Gordy where you are.

Speaker 8 (01:24:26):
Well, we're gonna play four more bars on the song
coming back, Steve, so he can finish.

Speaker 5 (01:24:31):
There you go hand watching optionals, Steve's options.

Speaker 9 (01:24:33):
Right, that's what I heard. Hey, Steve, let me start
here with this.

Speaker 8 (01:24:39):
My favorite thing about the weekend, and there's a lot
of good things to like. You win the series. I'm
not telling anything you don't know was yesterday or last night?
Should I say that fastball up and about ninety eight
Campsmith hits it the other way? I mean there, you
know how you see little things and you learn every
week about something. There's nothing overwhelmed that he's overwhelmed by.
Makes the great play running as well to his left

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to make the play defensively. Seems like in both things,
and that he's growing on a daily basis.

Speaker 10 (01:25:06):
Steve, it's funny you mentioned little things because that's how
he describes his batting practice. He says, little things add
up to big things, and I expect big things when
I do things the right way. In batting practice, he
goes the other way. He stays very disciplined. He'll go
at the middle, but just a nice, short, compact swing
and that's the way you.

Speaker 9 (01:25:26):
Catch up to heat when it's elevated like that. And
he's special.

Speaker 10 (01:25:30):
It's amazing that he can stay this discipline this early
in his career, especially with as little experience as he has.
But somebody's taught him really early on how to go things,
how to go about things the right way, and he
does it.

Speaker 7 (01:25:45):
Man.

Speaker 9 (01:25:45):
He stays to a.

Speaker 10 (01:25:47):
Nice little routine and I like it.

Speaker 9 (01:25:49):
I think he's going to be.

Speaker 10 (01:25:50):
Able to probably alleviate a lot of those pitfalls and
extended slumps because of it.

Speaker 6 (01:25:57):
Tago Steve Sparks here from the Astros Radio Network. Of course,
here I'm right here on Sports Talk seven eighty and
Sparky the When I looked at this pitching matchup, it
was like, oh gosh, you know it's it's advantage Padres.
When you saw Heart, when you saw you know, Dylan Ceese,
and you knew you were gonna have to throw Ryan
Gusto and Hayden Wiznewski. Who knew those would be the

(01:26:18):
two stars you end up winning. But I came away
just facing that lineup. Steve like overall just impressed with
what the pitching staff did in this series.

Speaker 9 (01:26:28):
Yeah, me too, Gusto.

Speaker 10 (01:26:30):
Let's start with Gusto five innings. Not only did he
not walk anybody, but he didn't even have a three
ball count. I mean, this is a guy that just
comes in, He's not afraid of anybody. He fills it up,
he's gonna be on the attack, he's gonna keep counting
his favor and I love it. He gave up nine
hits and those five innings, which is a little abnormal

(01:26:51):
for him. But more than anything else, I just love
his presence. I think he kind of sets a tone
with that, and I think the Astros feel pretty good
about whenever he's on the Mound. I think he's an
unbelievable long reliever, and Sean, you and I have talked
about how important it is for a long reliever to
throw strikes and be efficient and give them innings. And

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he's been great at that, you know. And it might
be to his detriment for a little while early in
his career, because he's probably gonna be stuck in the
bullpen when guys get healthy. But I loved it. You know,
that's a good point. Chris is wes Nesky. He's been
better than advertised in my opinion. You know, I didn't
I didn't.

Speaker 9 (01:27:32):
Know his stuff was this good.

Speaker 10 (01:27:33):
A little crossfire as fastballs up to ninety seven miles
per hour, a nasty, nasty slider cutter and all those things.
I think he's going to He's going to fit in
perfectly in this rotation. So as they get healthier, they
continue to play a pretty rough schedule. I mean, I
think early on, they've played three of the best teams

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in the National League, what the Giants, Padres and Metz,
and they've held their own.

Speaker 9 (01:27:58):
They won two of those three series. Uh, And I think.

Speaker 10 (01:28:02):
That the Astros are pretty well equipped to go on
some kind of a little run here everyone, you know,
at some point to get him above five hundred.

Speaker 9 (01:28:10):
Once they're the schedule weekends a little bit, now you.

Speaker 8 (01:28:13):
Know they were going to lose at least one game
because the guy in right field for the other teams
playing out of I mean, if he's dressing in a
phone booth, it's absolutely ridiculous the way Tatisa is playing.
But we know he has that ability, Steve, you mentioned
we was Nesky and and and the way Paradus is.
We've talked about his addition there at third base and
now Cam Smith as we just discussed Steve, when will
we know? And Tucker's no shock is raking in Chicago, Steve,

(01:28:35):
in your mind, when do you know when we can
judge a trade and say both teams won early on,
it looks that way, But when do you judge it
and say, okay, when all of a sudden done, we
could take a look back. When does that start to
kick in as how this trade turned out for both teams?

Speaker 10 (01:28:53):
I think I think a lot of times I'm gonna
I'm gonna judge this by by how well these guys
continue to develop.

Speaker 9 (01:28:59):
And Dana Brown.

Speaker 10 (01:29:02):
Explained it in spring training he said that we traded
thirteen years of service time for one year of service time.
At this point, you know whether or not they still
have a chance to sign Kyle Talker back, by the way,
he's going to be a free agent and everybody's going
to have a chance.

Speaker 9 (01:29:15):
Why are you teasing people like that, Steve, that everybody's
got I like to tease now, you know what. I
love Kyle Tucker too. Everybody does, and he's a great player.

Speaker 10 (01:29:32):
But I'm also excited about cam Smith, West Natsky and
Parides and what they've done here early on is great
and I think they're going to continue to get better.

Speaker 9 (01:29:42):
And I think that's what.

Speaker 10 (01:29:44):
The Astros need to be focused on right now, is
what do we do to move forward. I didn't expect
Cam Smith to be on this team. I really didn't,
probably not even next year. He's only played thirty two
games as a minor leaguer, so he's going to have
some ups and downs. He does so many things, which
gets you pretty excited. Last I think ten or eleven

(01:30:04):
games has an OPS over nine hundred. In the way
he's taken to right field. For somebody who's been an
infielder his entire life. The way he plays right field
right now. Now, I keep telling Robert in between innings, Man,
he is so smooth, so fast. He's going to make
a couple of mistakes here and there, but he's got
a cannon for an arm. He's going to turn into

(01:30:27):
an unbelievable right fielder. In my opinion, He's he's got
a chance to be a gold Glover out there.

Speaker 9 (01:30:32):
So that's exciting for me. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:30:34):
Steve sparks Astro's broadcast for his weekly visit here Mondays
at eight o'clock on Sports Talk seven ninety. If you
have not watched, I mean, if you didn't know what
position he played, Steve, you just assume he was a
right fielder all the time. That to me showed, I
mean just his moving to be able to run that
ball was by him, the one that was hit to
his left yesterday and he stabbed and made a great play.
Just his reactions, great Steve to get to the guy

(01:30:56):
next to him. I mean, I know, two twenty hit
two thirty or more and we got a bonus the admiration. Yeah,
what is Steve? Break him down? Why is he having
such success?

Speaker 9 (01:31:08):
Now?

Speaker 8 (01:31:09):
Is Jake Myers offensively and how close to this. Can
he continue for a guy who's the last one two
or three years hitting around two twenty.

Speaker 9 (01:31:17):
Yeah, we had him.

Speaker 10 (01:31:18):
We interviewed him after the game on Saturday night and
I asked him, I said, what's what's different about your approach?
He said, I'm just talking with the guys. You know,
I'm having a pretty good game plan coming into a game,
and I and I have a pretty good idea of
how they're going to try to attack me.

Speaker 9 (01:31:32):
I just got to be ready for it.

Speaker 10 (01:31:35):
And this is pretty good evidence here. He's I think
he's eighteen for thirty seven or eighteen for thirty eight
before he gets two strikes. So he's not missing pitches,
he's not fouling them off. He's getting something done early
in the camps. Now you don't want to hear this
close your ears if you need to, but he's over
twenty one or over twenty two strikes, so he's getting

(01:31:55):
it done early in his abs. But he's not missing them,
he's not founding them. He's ready and he's ready to
attack a fastball wherever it is, wherever he likes it,
and I'm assuming it's kind of middle end.

Speaker 9 (01:32:07):
I think he likes it. Elevate it a little bit.

Speaker 10 (01:32:09):
But he said in doubles down the third baseline, he's
staying inside the ball, going to the office field gat.
He's doing whatever he needs to do to execute what
he anticipates the other guy doing, and that comes with experience.

Speaker 7 (01:32:21):
Is he going to be a three hundred hitter.

Speaker 9 (01:32:23):
I doubt it.

Speaker 10 (01:32:24):
You know there is only a few of them in
the American League last year anyway. But anything you get
from him offensively, I think you're counting your lucky stars
because what he does defensively, and we saw it again
last night, he is one of the best. And he's
not afraid of the wall. For somebody who DISLI dislocated
their shoulder in a wall in the playoffs a few

(01:32:45):
years ago. He's got a lot of courage when he
goes up against the patting.

Speaker 8 (01:32:49):
I guess the key to that, Gordy is hunt balls
early in the strike, early in the count, so you
don't get to two strikes. And he obviously knows that.
Now hints why he's going out and putting the bat
on the ball early in the count.

Speaker 9 (01:32:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:33:00):
I just say it frustrates me when now two Vey
gets us first pitch pop outs.

Speaker 5 (01:33:03):
Like, oh, work account, work account.

Speaker 9 (01:33:05):
But uh, guess what, that's not happening. And you know that, Steve.

Speaker 6 (01:33:09):
Lastly for you, Christian Walker, the big two run homer
on Saturday, We're all going, you know, they, yes, there
it is. That's the guy the Astros wanted. He makes
a big defensive play late in the game as well,
and then yesterday back to an zero for four to
three strikeout day bet in one fifty six. I mean,
I'm not going to make the parallels to their bray

(01:33:29):
You signing because you know they're two different players and
we know how that played out, but there's shades of that.
It feels like the aging guy, why is this not working?
And I know he missed significant part of spring training
with the oblique injury, but how how do you do this?

Speaker 5 (01:33:44):
You know, sticking with.

Speaker 6 (01:33:45):
Your guy because he's eventually going to break out of
it versus man he's taken a lot of you know,
coming up with a lot of at bats with guys
on base and not coming through.

Speaker 5 (01:33:54):
How far do we slide him down to order? I
mean it's a tough battle there.

Speaker 10 (01:33:58):
Well, let's take yesterday out of the equation because I mean,
if you really watch the game, Dylan Seats was filthy
and all he was painting his flighter on Walker in particular.
I'm not kidding. Walker got painted yesterday and there's nothing
that anybody could have done. So I like man.

Speaker 9 (01:34:19):
I'm watching his VP and I like his like his swing.

Speaker 10 (01:34:21):
It's nice and compact and it stays long through the
strike zone.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
So that's what I look for.

Speaker 10 (01:34:27):
When when you see guys try to pull the ball
a lot, I think they're in and out of the
strike zone and they're.

Speaker 9 (01:34:32):
Easier to pitch too.

Speaker 10 (01:34:34):
And I think for him, as he stays in the
middle of the field and he doesn't try to pull
the baseball like he probably was earlier in the season
where he was easier to pitch too.

Speaker 9 (01:34:43):
I think now right now he's in.

Speaker 10 (01:34:44):
A pretty good spot where he's thinking between the gaps
and he's gonna he's gonna he's.

Speaker 9 (01:34:49):
Gonna probably rattle off a lot of RB eyes. I
have to say, in the month of May, I.

Speaker 10 (01:34:54):
Would put him in the top two or three for
the Astros and RB eyes, and that's what you got
in for. He'll be back in the four hole, and
I think Christian Walker is going to be a big
member of this offense as things, Peta, but I like
his swing man, I like his batting practice right now,
and I feel like he's starting to just kind of
relax a little bit where he can just be himself
again and not try to impress the new team.

Speaker 8 (01:35:16):
Yeah, not bad when you go from C's to a
closer pumping at one o two and throwing that nasty
change up too.

Speaker 9 (01:35:21):
You know it was a film.

Speaker 8 (01:35:23):
Yeah, that's tough to face with both of them talking
about a guy who painted throwing one oh one on
the black. Well, you can't, you can't get to it, Steve,
it was stupid watching it on TV.

Speaker 9 (01:35:31):
It was, Yeah, you know, that's why guys are doing that.

Speaker 10 (01:35:34):
At the back end we see hater doing Haters are
perfect eleven for eleven too, So you know, you get
down to the end in the Padres have only relinquished
one lead all season long, so they've got a great bullpen,
But so do the Astros. The Astros bullpen leads the
American League with an ERA below three, you know, and
they're doing it a little differently than a lot of teams.

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It's not like high octane. They've just got a lot
of guys who missed backs.

Speaker 9 (01:36:00):
Steve, great stuff, man, We appreciate you.

Speaker 8 (01:36:02):
We'll do it again. Uh, do it again next week.
That was a big two to one series win.

Speaker 9 (01:36:06):
Man. We look forward to talking to you every Monday,
my man. Thanks Sean, appreciate appreciate you.

Speaker 8 (01:36:10):
That's great, Steve Sparks, Gordy, I tell you what I mean.
The Padres desperately needed to close out for them because
you didn't want to get swept coming in here. But
you'll take you. You win too serious. You win series
like that, the confidence starts to change. And uh, there
was some things different about him this weekend, which was important.

Speaker 6 (01:36:26):
It's always funny when you when you win first two
games of a series and then you lose a third
win because at least a bad taste in your mouth.
But you have to take those two steps back and go, okay,
step away from it and go look at the full painting.
It was two out of three, so you know it's.

Speaker 5 (01:36:41):
A last night, but no, it's a mission accomplished.

Speaker 6 (01:36:45):
But now the Blue Jays coming to town and they're no,
they're no slump.

Speaker 9 (01:36:49):
They went pretty good baseball start.

Speaker 6 (01:36:50):
Yeah, and this Kevin Gossman going to night is having
a resurging year. He's got like an area of two somethings.
So it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough, all right.
When we come back, we'll get into more. We'll get
back into the discussion on Kevin Durant and the rocket,
should they make a run at him. And also I
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Speaker 4 (01:39:14):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues and that the bobbleheads always
seemed to be the bigger draw for the giveaways the
astros did.

Speaker 6 (01:39:22):
They actually had a really fun one last night. It
was the Al two v socks with his uh, his
face on the sides.

Speaker 5 (01:39:28):
Yeah, Joe A.

Speaker 6 (01:39:29):
Spotta was wearing uh, well, he was wearing the L
two vay socks last night. But one thing a trend
that has emerged, Sean, that that kind of perturbs me
going to games for the for these giveaways is and
the and the gates opened two hours before first pitch,
but I mean three hours before. The lines were wrapped
around the ballpark. People wanting to get in line early

(01:39:50):
because its first ten thousand fans get the bobblehead giveaway.

Speaker 5 (01:39:53):
Well, what I've.

Speaker 6 (01:39:55):
Seen, Sean, is there are these weirdos we'll call him
that go to the game, bring multiple people with them,
and then as soon as they get in, those people
hand them the bibbleheads, they put them in a bag,
and then they immediately leave the ballpark. They don't stay
for the game, they're they're just for the giveaway, and
then they run home to I guess whatever, and post

(01:40:18):
the eBay and start selling these things.

Speaker 9 (01:40:21):
And I'm going, now, look, you're.

Speaker 6 (01:40:23):
Legitimately buying tickets, I guess, like or maybe you're getting
from somebody, but like you got the tickets, you're getting
the giveaway.

Speaker 5 (01:40:30):
But like it's just it feels weird to me, Like is.

Speaker 8 (01:40:34):
This really Yeah, I'm I'm not a I would think
you'd have to profit to buy it in bulk, not
three or four extra ones, right, I mean, if you're
gonna do it buying a hundred or having somebody give
you a hundred of them, and you end up making
a profit twenty bucks of one, Okay, I get it,
But it just morally like you're saying, I'm not into
the collecting things. Yeah, I know you're you got a

(01:40:56):
good bobblehead collection, but you're gonna stand night for one
and go to the game the.

Speaker 6 (01:40:59):
Secondary market and get one and I go home. I
don't go, Hey, does there get eight buddies? All y'all,
y'all give me the bibblehead. We're gonna sell these on eBay.

Speaker 8 (01:41:07):
Yeah, I'll buy you the ticket to the game, but
you give me the bibblehead and return is there seems
something morally wrong to it, no question about it, and
I the hang up of me the effort of doing
all that and then put it on eBay and then
having to get it to the person and ship it
to me. It's like if you're a collector, collected it's
sticking on your shelf and I love it, and that
for It's like if you're a collector of Pokemon cards
or whatever I get it, or Baseball cards, but.

Speaker 9 (01:41:31):
It's like happening.

Speaker 8 (01:41:32):
You'll see somebody go up, they'll say, hey, man, could
you sign this card, and they'll hand the guy twenty
seven cards. It's like, I'm trying to help everybody else out,
and so you know this star is standing actually signing
thirty cards, like, well, I know you're not putting these
in your sheet to keep them just for you, So
there is something Oh.

Speaker 6 (01:41:48):
Yeah, you know those guys when you see him, you're like,
this guy isn't this isn't for his collection?

Speaker 9 (01:41:52):
No exactly what for?

Speaker 8 (01:41:54):
And then they'll be and I'm no star, trust me,
but they'll come up and they'll have a card this,
and do you and I'm signing this or these for me?
And so at first you say it, and then he's
stand there. Five minutes later, he's handing you twelve cards.
And then they get the five by seven glosses and
they don't hand you one, they hand you eighteen of them.
It's like okay, now the kids wait, It's like, okay,
I get it, but right now it's probably not the time.

(01:42:16):
And now, imagine if you're one of these guys that
that you can actually make money off their cards?

Speaker 5 (01:42:21):
Were you first when he.

Speaker 6 (01:42:22):
Walks up with the three go man, this guy really
liked Sean's Hell oh right, yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:42:25):
They did? You think?

Speaker 8 (01:42:26):
I say well, and then I'm thinking, okay, I'm signing man.
Then I look at him and say, well, man, I
didn't know I had twelve cards off.

Speaker 9 (01:42:32):
Can I borrow a couple of these?

Speaker 8 (01:42:34):
Can I have a couple and I signed, I'll sign
you five more glosses and you get an extra copy
of that card for me and my kids. So, yeah, I, Gordy,
I've never understood, and maybe I'm on the minority the
whole of you know. But I get card collectors, you know,
who do it professionally. But I've never to drive down

(01:42:54):
to a stadium to turn it. If I was a
collector like you are'd be one thing. I get it,
But to drive down there, put him in a Santa
Claus bag full of tricks and turn around spread home.
I didn't watch the game to sell them. Yeah, there's
something that seems awfully wrong then with that.

Speaker 9 (01:43:07):
Now here's what.

Speaker 6 (01:43:08):
I saw this was it was like a middle age
I thought they were a family. They might not even
be a family, but they were grouped together, middle aged,
and there was a lady. They all walked in and
they all they immediately hand the bibble heads of this
guy and he's putting them all in a big bag.
Well then they walk out the stadium like, oh, they're leaving. No,
they turn around, got back in line and came back through,
and I saw the ladies scroll on our phone. She
had another ticket, right, so it's like they had she

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had three tickets and she came back through and got
another one and handed it to this guy again in
the bag and I'm just like, this is not what
a giveaway is supposed to be.

Speaker 9 (01:43:39):
And they ended up leaving the ballpark anyway.

Speaker 5 (01:43:41):
Yeah, they don't stay for the game.

Speaker 8 (01:43:43):
It's I've always been It's been eye rolling to me,
but I don't know it as a profession. I love
somebody who believes in something. Like I said when you
said you got like a hundred bob and that's I'm like, damn,
that's a good collection. But you're not getting them to
turn around and go sell fifteen of the money.

Speaker 5 (01:43:56):
No, And I would never go to the secondary market
and buy one.

Speaker 7 (01:43:59):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:43:59):
The whole thing was I went to the game, and
I got it at the game. I didn't go on
to eBay in a game I didn't attend. I got
a bubblehead from like.

Speaker 8 (01:44:06):
It just I always have a hard time making It's like,
here's the way I approach it, Gordian. Honestly, if somebody
were to get you tickets to it, like let's say
the Final Four and Buddy got me, you go to
the game and then you say, well, man, these are
really good seats. And the seats that somebody gave you
because they want you to go to the game and enjoy.

(01:44:26):
And I've seen you turn around and sell to somebody
for two hundred and fifty bucks a ticket because they
it's their lifelong dream to get to a World Series
game or a Final Four or a NFL playoff game,
and you got them. But he said, well, hell I
can get tickets, and then you turn around and sell them,
and you're like, those two are sitting there, say can
look at these for my friends that it feels similar

(01:44:48):
to me, right, just like that there's a moral wrong
you get me tickets, I'm not selling I may bring
a buddy with me. I'm not selling them. And they're
going to sit in and say thanks for the freebies.
But man made seven hundred dollars off your two tickets,
thank you. Yeah, there's something morally wrong with well.

Speaker 6 (01:45:03):
Also buying them off the secondary market feels like like
if you went to the Super Bowl this year and
you gave me your ticket stuff like hey, man, like
it's a great collectible, but I didn't go to the.

Speaker 5 (01:45:12):
Game, right, Like, I didn't get that at the game.

Speaker 8 (01:45:14):
So it's like what it means nothing in my book
of remembers, right, exactly so great.

Speaker 5 (01:45:19):
I don't know, but it was weird. Somebody sent me
in the middle of the game.

Speaker 6 (01:45:21):
They go, it's already up there, and sure enough of
posting fifty six dollars on eBay Josh Hader bobblehead from
that day's giveaway, and I'm like, what.

Speaker 9 (01:45:30):
It doesn't take long, does She's a math?

Speaker 6 (01:45:31):
You spent twenty to thirty bucks a ticket and then
you're posting for fifty you're probably twenty dollars you else.

Speaker 9 (01:45:36):
Had to park.

Speaker 8 (01:45:38):
Yeah, i'd it's what you five dollars before all that.
My time is a little more worth even.

Speaker 6 (01:45:43):
Paying these people to help him collect them to right,
paying that's money out of pocket.

Speaker 8 (01:45:47):
So yeah, right, well your ROI was three dollars a
bobblehead after all that work.

Speaker 5 (01:45:52):
Loser, Yes, the loser is what you are.

Speaker 9 (01:45:54):
A week approach, I'm with you. Yeah, just people are
so weird.

Speaker 6 (01:45:57):
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Speaker 6 (01:47:48):
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Speaker 5 (01:48:02):
Let's get back out to the full line.

Speaker 6 (01:48:03):
Two of you guys are thinking on this Monday morning
doctor Roger, Roger, what's up?

Speaker 15 (01:48:09):
What's going on?

Speaker 7 (01:48:10):
Guys?

Speaker 15 (01:48:10):
No, I was just thinking about you know, the Rockets.
You know, it's their first game, they're they're young. But
what did what did he made? DOCA said, uh, when
he first started with that group, he said, we're not
going to use you as an excuse. So with that
in mind, I'm thinking, you don't just using this as
a as a as a format if you will for

(01:48:31):
the next season, see how far they get. It's gonna
be the result of who we get. I still think
we should get KD or someone like kt uh, just
just because we need we need more shooting. We've always
known that we need more shooting. I don't think uh
uh the kid reachepers not. I don't think he's very yet.
I think he might develop into that guy that we need.

(01:48:54):
But for right now, we need a guy who's a
hard and vetteran They can they can push this. We
pushed this wall and I know he just on the court.
I'm in the locker room, you know, you know, get
these guys in the mindset. You know you don't can
only do so much. And he doesn't a great job,
by the way, But I just think guys like Jayalen
just you know, a huge wake up call because you
know this this series is crucial to his future for Rocket.

Speaker 8 (01:49:16):
I believe, Hey, Roger, let me ask you real quick,
real quick, brother, you can finish your point. I'm just curious,
are you prepared to say that they're not ready for
the run this year?

Speaker 15 (01:49:25):
I don't know. We're gonna see, though, we're gonna see
this first game. This first game is what it is.
It It did show a lot though it showed a
lot of you know, I see Jalen Green. He looks
like he wants to do what he wants to do,
but he's I think Mike, because he's so young and
so excited about it that he forgot how to attack
the basket. You know, he couldn't even shake Steph Curry

(01:49:45):
At times, I'm like, what am I watching? So I'm
thinking maybe he's just so you know, how you get
I'm sean with you, like, man, you know, he got
a you know, an easy six foot for a birdie
and then you know, just pass it to the you know,
I know what I was supposed to do. I just
didn't do it. Just said the same kind of mindset,

(01:50:07):
you know, he's just I think hopefully the state wasn't
a big full, but that it shouldn't look like it
last night. I just hope he can redown and bounce back.

Speaker 8 (01:50:15):
And and you know what, Roger, it may have been
been too big for him last night, right, that's okay.
I mean last night first playoff game, they have been like,
you know what, Okay, now I got this, But that's
why we got to see the next here and then
when they go on the road to how he handles
the playoff pressure. Hell, we've all been there. I can
remember my first playoff experience. Like, man, this is different, right,
and it takes Unfortunately in football you get one game.

(01:50:37):
You don't get seven of them. You can, you can
have it in basketball and then get a chance to
make up for it. So it's okay. I mean, hell,
I watched dog on PGA Tour. Players stand over a
six foot putt that you're talking about, and they've they've
won five events and they're still shaken over at the
top of that damn thing.

Speaker 9 (01:50:53):
Right, So I get it.

Speaker 8 (01:50:55):
But now it's how you respond to it which is
going to be more important for his future and for
this team's immediate success.

Speaker 15 (01:51:02):
Absolutely I feel for the kid. I think they have
a good squad man. I just want to see how
they talk about it. Games is gonna be crucial. They
can't go on the Oh.

Speaker 7 (01:51:09):
Get Down two of the series, Oh no doubt.

Speaker 15 (01:51:11):
I don't think they could go so and uh, you
know we're on the golf course. You know what I
felt like. I know if you're watching glorious Spots, but
I was. I was connected more scouts and than.

Speaker 9 (01:51:25):
Absolutely.

Speaker 15 (01:51:27):
Yeah, I had I'm not you know about us twenty
foot on the left side of the fridge to save
me from the dread of stow Man. And that was
the out of my day.

Speaker 7 (01:51:35):
Baby.

Speaker 9 (01:51:35):
There you go, brother, I'm with you. I appreciate you too, Roger,
thanks many. Crystal wallt so good in that movie Glorious Bastards.

Speaker 8 (01:51:44):
Oh yeah, one of the best, phenomenal. Matter of fact,
if you haven't seen, it's one of those I can.
Actually I think that movie is underrated. Oh yeah, is
that fair enough to say?

Speaker 9 (01:51:53):
Yeah? Great movie, loved it. Tarantino, pretty new, Yeah, what
a shock.

Speaker 6 (01:51:57):
I was just looking at the number so in in
the seven A seven game series in the playoffs since
nineteen eighty four and the two three two format. A
team that was down one in a series, the team
that went on to win it twenty out of twenty
nine times. So still you have nine times a team
has come back.

Speaker 8 (01:52:17):
So and that's just down oh one, you say, in
a seven game series.

Speaker 5 (01:52:21):
That's what this is what the best basketball references.

Speaker 6 (01:52:24):
So again, it's it's not the end of the world
most of the time. But I mean, like I was
just reading about the Lakers. There was an arc written
today it said Lakers are not out. Lebron lives with
these moments. Lebron down oh one in the series doesn't
mean anything, right because he can lift the team.

Speaker 5 (01:52:37):
It's just this is the first time this Rockets group.

Speaker 9 (01:52:41):
Has been here.

Speaker 8 (01:52:41):
So and the numbers you just mentioned when you get
down oh two look a lot different even than favoring
the other way. When you're down oh two, it gets
even worse. So, yeah, this is gonna hear this game,
and it's gonna be a big game for somebody like
Jalen Green or you know, Thompson, anybody's another guy's gonna
have step up because if shan Gun plays out of mine,
it's the same thing you'd hope for for Golden State. Okay,

(01:53:03):
Steph got his points, but Jimmy Butler had twelve. Okay,
Draymond Green has nine. Now it's now you're you're talking
the way you want it. But when those two can
take over, and I don't think they played their best
basketball by any stretch this past I mean last night
and then the Rockets Shengoon, but you're gonna have Jalen Green,
and it's probably gonna take a far better shooting performance

(01:53:23):
from the point guard as well. Fred Van Vliet is
gonna have to play better. So you're it's an uphill
battle regardless because of the experience. But you don't want
to get down O two and go to their building
because that makes for a very, very difficult climb.

Speaker 5 (01:53:35):
Yeah, no doubt. Let's get Trey in humbolding real quick.

Speaker 7 (01:53:38):
Tray.

Speaker 9 (01:53:38):
What's something man Sean said? Everything? Man uh man.

Speaker 16 (01:53:44):
These guys haven't been here before and now as as Homers,
as Houston fans, of course we think they can beat anybody.
But the reality of it is they've been playing this
way all year long. I think Reggie Miller hit it
on the head last night, and I've been saying this
all year. They really don't have a go to guys
and my committee type thing. And when you get in
the playoffs right now, you need two guys or a
guy that you know could go get you a bucket.

(01:54:06):
Sagoon personally, if it was up to me, the office
been a ran through Sagoon and Jabari Parker all night long.
Because they have the matchup down low out on the wings,
they able to w and Green is not a mid
range shooter. He gets to the he shoots long threes
or gets to the goal. And then the playoffs, but
they were finding earlier. They don't call those calls you

(01:54:26):
get during the season, and the guys look kind of
sell shot.

Speaker 7 (01:54:29):
The younger guys out there. I'm not with getting the
Kevin Durant, you know.

Speaker 16 (01:54:33):
What I'm saying, just for the simple fact that unless
you have an offense that flows like Golden State, all
that's gonna do is be a one on one game.
You see it in Finish, you see it in New Jersey,
You've seen it in Oklahoma City. I just think that
guys need to get better. This is a great experience
for him to get better.

Speaker 9 (01:54:50):
We want to win, but if we lose.

Speaker 7 (01:54:51):
It's okay, man.

Speaker 16 (01:54:52):
They get the experience they need so that eventually they'll
be able to make deep playoff runs and start developing
some guys on the team that could be to go
to guy going forward.

Speaker 6 (01:55:03):
There you go, there you said trade? Yeah, great point.
I just say, yeah, man, it's it's you just wonder.
I mean, you work so hard to build up this roster,
are you ready to give up on some of these
guys to go get that big star that you might need.

Speaker 9 (01:55:15):
It's it's a give and a take and certainly worth debating.

Speaker 6 (01:55:19):
All right, well we return, we'll get to more of
you guys on the pall lines still kicking around this
Rockets series. Uh, do you feel down and out on
him just because they lost game one? Or hey you
come back win game two. You're right back into the
thick of this thing. We'll talk more Rockets. Take your
calls next here on the Sewn Salzburg.

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Speaker 5 (01:56:34):
On these Rockets stuck to uh John on the northwest side?

Speaker 9 (01:56:37):
John, what's up? Man?

Speaker 11 (01:56:39):
Hey Fellas Fellows, Good morning, right, hey man, you know
I you know, I was watching the game last night.
I really didn't think that, uh, these young Rockets would
come in the first playoff game and the pressure would
get to them. I mean, that's the only thing wrong
with them. They just played hard. But you're talking about

(01:57:00):
us missing layups, missing free throws, missing two many shouts.
I mean, they just really played bad. What they need
to do is all of them is getting in the
mouth and get themselves together for the next game. Now,
what I would do, honestly, what I would do if
if some of these guys in the next game is

(01:57:20):
like Jalen Green is not scoring very well, not playing well,
I would really open my rotation a little bit more.
Give Ken, give kN kN Wit more some minutes. He's
a mean player, he's not gonna be and he's a
and he's a scoring machine. I would bring him in,
give him some minutes. The other little kid, I forget
his name. His brother played for Boston, the little part guard.

(01:57:43):
I'd give Van Fleet a few minutes to break and
bring him in. What's the little kid's name, Holiday. I
would bring Holliday in there and put House on that
little short kid over there, part guard for golds.

Speaker 7 (01:57:57):
They give Van he a few minutes.

Speaker 11 (01:57:59):
Break those two guy, I would and I will play
and I give Junior a few more minutes too. When
I'm bringing in my tall players. What's the kid name?
I'm getting old came in last night, the tall kid,
what's the name? Yeah, he's got that high with the
Rockets when they played big and tall, Golden State can't

(01:58:23):
even get rebounds. I mean, Rockets got the talent to
beat this team. They just have to relax, forget about
this pressure, play some basketball and they can win. Because listen,
Golden States had that was more scrappy when with the
Rockets last night because they had to be. It's the
only way that they're going to win. When it comes

(01:58:46):
to talent on talent, the Rockets are young, yeah, but
they got so much more talent. They just need to
settle down and play some basketball.

Speaker 1 (01:58:56):
Hey, y'all have a girl one man.

Speaker 9 (01:58:58):
Thank you, John, appreciate it. John said they need an anima.

Speaker 8 (01:59:02):
Yeah, listen, yeah that I don't know if the enemy
is something I mean, well yeah, I thought he's gonna
say a prostate check. Yeah yeah, but you know what
if it what? An anima is supposed to flush you out,
So uh, let's go get it done. Just make sure
you hydrate. Okay, isn't that the answer to everything? Gordy,

(01:59:24):
just hydrate. Yeah, I'll get what John's saying. They'll flush
out that bad and move on. The truth is, what
do you learn from it? I mean, you go watch it,
get over it quickly, because but you do have a
couple extra days to get things settled in, and you're
young enough let the naive part of it kick in
and go dominate and treat it like you would down
at the local gym. Just cut it loose, smart wise,
but advantage warriors. When it comes to experience playing for rings,

(01:59:50):
that's something you're just gonna have to overcome. And it
can't take three games. To be honest with you, and
don't don't kid yourself. Psychological does play into it. We're
gonna find out just kind of what kind of moxie
they got. We know Golden State has that. That's been
what they've been built on.

Speaker 5 (02:00:02):
I like how he said, go cover the little short guy.

Speaker 8 (02:00:05):
Yeah, Steph Curry the greatest, Yeah, that guy grabbing in him,
and go cover the guy who knows how to shoot.

Speaker 9 (02:00:13):
There you go. I love it, John, great call.

Speaker 5 (02:00:15):
Let's get gin a memorial in here.

Speaker 9 (02:00:17):
Jim, what's up? How you doing, buddy?

Speaker 17 (02:00:22):
Yeah, dealing with some health issues. But I'm good.

Speaker 9 (02:00:26):
That's good to hear. I'm glad you're doing okay, man, Thank.

Speaker 17 (02:00:28):
You, thank you. You know John was talking about seeing
other players get some minutes. I would have liked to
see Shepherd get on the court, especially when we were
going through some spells where we couldn't even buy a bucket,
and so I'd like to see him get some more minutes. Uh,
and to change real quick with the Astros. The only

(02:00:51):
concern I have about Walker and going back, I was
looking at you know, it's it's history. I don't think
he's ever had a start like he'th had here, you
know yesterday. I mean there was a couple of plate
appearances where he was lost. I mean he just kind
of you could see the the dejection on his face,

(02:01:13):
and I think it's kind of carrying over to the
de fence. I know he made some good pigs, but
there was a ball that was hit to the right
side and also on the left side that he missed
that a year ago, two years ago, he'd have caught
them balls. So anyway, that's that's my only concerns. I'll
try not to be too much of a stranger.

Speaker 9 (02:01:33):
Thank you. Sean no problem, Jenner. It's good to hear
you're doing okay.

Speaker 11 (02:01:36):
Man.

Speaker 8 (02:01:37):
I hope your health has find you really really well,
and we always love hearing from you.

Speaker 9 (02:01:41):
And he made it. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 8 (02:01:42):
On the double play they turned, which was needed, he
did a good job of scooping it.

Speaker 9 (02:01:46):
Up on the throw too. Yeah, he made some good plays.

Speaker 6 (02:01:49):
I think the first inning there was a couple of
balls that kind of got through and yeah, but.

Speaker 8 (02:01:53):
In somebody shoot one down the line.

Speaker 5 (02:01:56):
That was kind of up the gap like in.

Speaker 8 (02:01:59):
The middle between the exactly to the second basement's left side.

Speaker 6 (02:02:04):
Yeah, but I think for the most part he's been
he's been a plus defender over there.

Speaker 8 (02:02:08):
Feels like I think it's the bat that we're more
concerned about right now. Yet I get what Jen's talking about.
And as Steve Sparks pointed out, he got painted big
time yesterday. See, I mean the guys they threw at
him yesterday weren't exactly chopped liver, and they can pump
it up right well over one hundred and one case
and close to one hundred and the other. And when
you're painting black and then you can throw that nasty
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(02:02:32):
a it's a bad problem to have. And he was
just and when you're going bad, everything hits the black. Right,
Oh yeah, everything hits the black. He's gonna be fine.

Speaker 6 (02:02:39):
We're gonna get Jack del Rio and here we'll switch
your stocks com NFL Draft. A second, let's grab Brandon
here real quick before we grab our top of the hour. Brandon,
what's up for a weekend?

Speaker 7 (02:02:48):
Buddy?

Speaker 10 (02:02:49):
Hi, ChRI Scorrey, how are you good?

Speaker 8 (02:02:51):
Man?

Speaker 5 (02:02:51):
Astros beat the Padres.

Speaker 9 (02:02:53):
That was good.

Speaker 1 (02:02:54):
Hey, I was at the game Saturday. I heard you
on Saturday.

Speaker 5 (02:02:59):
Very nice. Did you get a bibblehead?

Speaker 11 (02:03:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (02:03:02):
Hey, where's day today?

Speaker 5 (02:03:05):
Dan Is he's on vacation. He's back tomorrow.

Speaker 9 (02:03:08):
Oh good for him.

Speaker 11 (02:03:11):
Take a day off.

Speaker 6 (02:03:12):
Absolutely, your rocket's gonna get this thing done. Brand You
think they're gonna win Wednesday?

Speaker 1 (02:03:18):
Yes, there we go. I didn't watch it yesterday and
I forgot to day that.

Speaker 6 (02:03:24):
Well, that's probably why they lost. You didn't support him, Hey, I.

Speaker 1 (02:03:28):
Was focusing watching the Astros.

Speaker 9 (02:03:30):
Okay, yeah, Brandon, Brandon like your focus.

Speaker 5 (02:03:35):
Well, good to hear from you, buddy.

Speaker 2 (02:03:37):
Hey, I will see you probably during a ten.

Speaker 1 (02:03:44):
Or Here are you at ten.

Speaker 6 (02:03:45):
No, I won't be on at ten. I'll be Matt
Thomas and Ross. But listen to them, all right, all right, Brandon,
all right, we'll leave it there.

Speaker 9 (02:03:54):
Buddy.

Speaker 6 (02:03:55):
Thanks for the call, appreciate it. I sympathize with him talk.

Speaker 7 (02:04:00):
I was.

Speaker 6 (02:04:00):
Uh, it was tough, man. I had the two TVs
going last night. It sucks that they were both kind
of playing at the same time.

Speaker 9 (02:04:05):
Yeah, you know, hence why we gotta have to Gordy.

Speaker 6 (02:04:08):
And when they said eight thirty tip, I thought that
made good more like eight fifty.

Speaker 9 (02:04:12):
No, they sound yeah they did.

Speaker 5 (02:04:14):
Hey, they got that thing going started on.

Speaker 8 (02:04:15):
Time, no doubt about it. And I was busy all
day too, mixing in the old scene. If Justin Thomas
could close out a tournament for the first time in
three years, and he finally did with a monster twenty
plus foot putt to win.

Speaker 9 (02:04:26):
It, so good on him. A good sports day.

Speaker 8 (02:04:28):
And uh, I think the Rockets respond with a win
in game two and the Asters.

Speaker 9 (02:04:32):
I'll take it, even though you'd love to sweep.

Speaker 8 (02:04:34):
Anytime you can beat a team that's that hot and
and uh and the way that tatist and that team's
playing and facing good pitching.

Speaker 9 (02:04:41):
You'll take two to one. This team's fine.

Speaker 6 (02:04:43):
With all the excitement of Astros and Rockets, the draft
snuck up.

Speaker 5 (02:04:47):
Yes, we got the NFL Draft.

Speaker 9 (02:04:48):
Here we are, let's go yep.

Speaker 6 (02:04:49):
Coming up in an hour number four, we're gonna talk
with Jack del Rio. Guy knows a thing or two,
a thing or two about the NFL.

Speaker 9 (02:04:55):
LL do that next time.

Speaker 4 (02:05:00):
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Speaker 1 (02:05:07):
This is Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 12 (02:05:09):
Ninety from the Parsons that match in next studios.

Speaker 9 (02:05:19):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 1 (02:05:23):
Sean Salisbury.

Speaker 7 (02:05:26):
Salisbury to usc.

Speaker 3 (02:05:27):
Tropes, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 1 (02:05:29):
Dan Matthewscus.

Speaker 4 (02:05:31):
This is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 6 (02:05:38):
Time of year where you get to add some pieces
to your team. What's the philosophy? What are you looking for?
Best player available versus need? All these discussions and bringing
in now, how about the guy I can win with you?

Speaker 9 (02:05:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:05:51):
Yeah, I want a winner.

Speaker 6 (02:05:52):
Bringing in a guy who is a winner, guy who's
coached and played and done it all was the studio.
It was just a couple of years ago coming in
and guy man now he's doing his thing overseas. Jack
del Rio jumping in right now, Jack Harre, you man,
thanks for jumping in with us.

Speaker 7 (02:06:08):
Hey, I'm doing great.

Speaker 5 (02:06:09):
I'm going a little bit of a time difference here.

Speaker 9 (02:06:13):
I hear you are.

Speaker 6 (02:06:13):
You are overseas doing some some coaching football over there.

Speaker 5 (02:06:17):
Now, get everybody up to date. What you got going on?

Speaker 9 (02:06:20):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (02:06:22):
Well, right this minute, I'm sitting on a park bench
looking at.

Speaker 7 (02:06:27):
The eifle, looking at the eificle cower.

Speaker 2 (02:06:29):
Wow, I just got out of the just got out
of the loo with my wife, and you know I
was I was doing all the all the all the
things a husband does that wants to make his wife happy.
So we we had a good day this morning. It
is four o'clock right now, and I'm heading back because
we're gonna We're gonna jump on a zoom here in

(02:06:51):
a little bit and review Saturday's practice.

Speaker 7 (02:06:53):
With the team, and we do it via zoom.

Speaker 2 (02:06:55):
Oh it's interesting, uh, the way the way we kind
of done things and are doing things over here.

Speaker 7 (02:07:03):
But one thing is one thing is evident. The guys
love football and I love football. So so we're having.

Speaker 2 (02:07:11):
A blast over here in Paris, you know, coaching and
playing football.

Speaker 8 (02:07:15):
Jack, you know, I mean story cre You've been defensive coordinator,
you've been Super Bowl, you've were a player for a
long time, you've been a head coach in this league. Successful.
Why why why this gig?

Speaker 9 (02:07:25):
Tell him?

Speaker 8 (02:07:25):
Tell me about this, what it's done for you, not
just psychologically but football wise.

Speaker 2 (02:07:31):
Yeah, it really this was This was the kind of
thing where my wife has been telling me for years.
Linda's been saying, whatever they offer you a chance to
go over and coach in Europe, please do it, because
I would.

Speaker 7 (02:07:46):
And so and so came up when I was asked.

Speaker 2 (02:07:49):
I said, you know, I'm not going to tell you no,
because my wife forever has been saying, if we could,
you know, kind of if she could do what she loves,
which is the travel and be in Europe and all that,
and if we can do that, I can do what
I love, which is a coach football, and we can
make it happen.

Speaker 7 (02:08:05):
All at once. Let's let's go for it.

Speaker 2 (02:08:07):
And so I was like, uh, I don't know if
I really want to do that.

Speaker 7 (02:08:12):
What? Uh you know, I talked with it.

Speaker 2 (02:08:14):
I talked with Chip and a couple of really good
people that I trust, and they said, it's a blast,
you can love it. And I am loving it so far.
Thank you, And Joel comes up.

Speaker 8 (02:08:26):
Jackie, you're going to get a whole lot of hall
pass too for mama for a while. Now you know
how that goes, man, You've been building up investment ROI brother,
I know the great Jack del Rio Jorges and that's
the truth from from Well, he's stared at the Eiffel Tower.
So it's good to be Jack. But imagine there's a
cup of coffee there as well, and it's no milkshake,
my guy, Jack del Rio joins us. Jack, it's draft

(02:08:47):
week this time. You've been through a lot of these,
not only as a player, but evaluating. Give me an
idea on a Monday before when you're the head coach
on a Monday, what Monday before Thursday draft looks like
or sounds like in the building when you're going through
your evaluation.

Speaker 2 (02:09:06):
Well, the bulk of the work is done. You know,
the scouts have come in, they've had their say. Uh,
the coaches have done their part where they're gonna you know,
coaches are gonna look at it and just make sure
scheme fit type stuff. But really, the scouts spend all
the time. I mean they spend years with these guys
and coaches. We come in and try and learn in
a couple of months. So I think the scouts have

(02:09:27):
a much better idea as long as they as long
as they're in sync with what the coaching staff is
looking for.

Speaker 7 (02:09:33):
Uh, you've got to rely on their un your staff,
of your of your scouting. So now, right now it's
probably talk about could we move up, could we move back?

Speaker 2 (02:09:43):
Where's where? You know, where's the meat of this draft?
Where is it light? You know, if there's a if
there's a where you get in troubles, where there's a
position need in a light area like like there are
not many of them. It's scarcely populated, and it's a
and it's a group that you need to be in
to get a player that you want, and that's when
that's when mistakes happened.

Speaker 7 (02:10:03):
So hopefully teams.

Speaker 2 (02:10:05):
Have been able to kind of fortify through the free
agency and not have glaring holes. Glaring holes on draft
day ends up being a reach and typically high percentage
buss and that's what you want to avoid.

Speaker 7 (02:10:20):
There's so many good players.

Speaker 2 (02:10:21):
That are going to come off over the weekend and
you just have to have your board stacked right and uh,
and stay true to it and move around if you
need to up or down and and get yourself some
good football.

Speaker 7 (02:10:35):
Players what you want to be.

Speaker 9 (02:10:36):
Hey, Jack, I'm cure.

Speaker 8 (02:10:37):
Jack del Real, longtime player and coach in the league
and is in Paris now coaching the Paris Musketeers. Has
great perspective on these drafts, not only as a player
and assistant coach, but as a head coach.

Speaker 9 (02:10:47):
Jack, is there a story?

Speaker 7 (02:10:48):
You know?

Speaker 8 (02:10:48):
We all like the stories or what happened on this day?
Is there like leading into this were you and your
GM or owner where it was like the head's budding
over because you wanted to take two different p people.
Has there any epic stories or a scouting department where
you were adamant about something and somebody talked you into
it or out of it.

Speaker 2 (02:11:07):
Well, listen, there there there are several epics stories.

Speaker 7 (02:11:11):
So it's like, which way do you want to go?

Speaker 2 (02:11:13):
And I'm going to say that you you'd be in
a quarterback Yeah, I think I think you'd really enjoyed
the blame Gabbert quarterbacks.

Speaker 8 (02:11:23):
Well let's let's let's let's hear it. No, you have not,
even when you were kicking my ass on the golf course.
So are ready to hear it?

Speaker 2 (02:11:31):
So so, okay, so blame Gabbert night young man. Okay,
So I was asked to evaluate him.

Speaker 7 (02:11:39):
I looked at him. I said, I see he and uh.

Speaker 2 (02:11:44):
I think his name was Mick Foles, And I said,
I see them both as like third fourth round guys, Like,
if you have to, you can take him in a third,
but I'd be happy if we get him in the fourth.
I think I think one of them probably makes it
there and and that would be a great place to
get a good solid backup that.

Speaker 7 (02:12:03):
Okay, So that was my evaluation. And so we're on
draft day and.

Speaker 8 (02:12:08):
And you're at Jacksonville at the time, Jack is this
Dunia Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (02:12:12):
I'm yeah, I'm in Jacksonville. This this is what ended
up being my last year. And you'll understand why. So
I'm sitting here and I'm like, okay, we don't pick
for a while, because you know we're sitting I think
we're picking sixteenth that year. And we all basically went
to bed thinking we were going to take Ryan Carrigan

(02:12:33):
at the sixteenth spot. Thought he would be there, thought
it would be a great fit. That was kind of
the guy we had our eye on, at least I did.
So I'm in the buffet line, like I'm filling up
my plate, you know, and I'm like, yeah, we don't.

Speaker 7 (02:12:47):
Pick for a while. I want to get something to eat.

Speaker 2 (02:12:50):
And I hear and the Jaguars have made a trade
and are now on the clock.

Speaker 9 (02:12:56):
And I'm like, what.

Speaker 8 (02:12:59):
Why you were getting food? They made the decision to
trade to you. Okay, yes, this.

Speaker 2 (02:13:05):
Is a true story, okay. And I and I haven't
shared it, you know, I I don't. I don't blab
it a lot, but I'm giving it to.

Speaker 8 (02:13:11):
My boy and I'm brother, trust me, okay, okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (02:13:17):
So so I walk into I dropped my stuff. I
walk into the to the to the draft room, and
nobody will look at me.

Speaker 7 (02:13:26):
Everybody looks down. Nobody.

Speaker 2 (02:13:28):
They know that I was screwed. They know, and they
tell me, no, they don't even say it.

Speaker 7 (02:13:36):
They draft.

Speaker 2 (02:13:37):
They turn in the cart and draft flame Gatherert. Now,
as I said, he was a fine young man.

Speaker 7 (02:13:44):
Nice guy.

Speaker 2 (02:13:45):
He looked apart, but I thought he was a solid
backup in the league, which is what he ended up being.

Speaker 8 (02:13:53):
And and you know, Jack, we're talking three or four
rounds later than your evaluation and without you even being
in the room.

Speaker 2 (02:14:02):
Yes, yes, which is why when the draft was over,
I called my wife and I said, put the house
on the market, because there's no way, there's no way
I'll be, you know, making it through a year where
they would even have the nuts to the balls, the
wherewithal to do such a move.

Speaker 7 (02:14:22):
It was that bad. It was that bad. I played along.
I had to play along, and yeah, this was our pick.
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (02:14:29):
I didn't come out and say I had a third
fourth round grade on I had. I had to play
along with it, okay, And uh yeah, yeah that's that
that happened. So how about that for a for a
bomb story?

Speaker 7 (02:14:44):
Yeah, on my watch, my man.

Speaker 8 (02:14:46):
And then then we all said and wonder, well, yeah,
what a total horrible pick by the head coach. No
head coach is getting ready to get a sausage, egg
and cheese McMuffin or something over there in the buffet line.

Speaker 6 (02:14:56):
Yeah, well, you guys know who went one pick later
to Houston Texans, right, JJ Watt?

Speaker 9 (02:15:02):
So Jack Man like to have him too, there, right.

Speaker 6 (02:15:06):
Jack JJ Watt and Jaguar colors.

Speaker 7 (02:15:09):
Yeah, yeah, JJ would have been nice. I mean, but
but he wasn't going to make it the sixteen. We
knew that. But yeah, yeah, he's a great player, great guy.
Yeah yeah, yeah, No, I.

Speaker 6 (02:15:21):
Mean the other pieces in that Robert Quinn, Mike Pouncy,
I mean, there was tons of good guys in that
drafted twenty eleven.

Speaker 8 (02:15:27):
Did you notice that, Jack at the beginning of it said, Sean,
you're gonna love this. When I tell you this story,
you're gonna understand why this was my last year.

Speaker 9 (02:15:33):
At Jacksonville.

Speaker 7 (02:15:36):
And there too.

Speaker 6 (02:15:37):
At the time, Jack, remember were you were you offered
the USC job around that time.

Speaker 9 (02:15:41):
I remember those rumors were out there.

Speaker 8 (02:15:42):
They were, there was talking. I know, there was a
bunch of talk about it, Jack, as you well know.

Speaker 2 (02:15:48):
Well that that was It's funny how it worked out.
There were there were kind of Daly answers.

Speaker 7 (02:15:56):
I don't know what do you want to call it?

Speaker 8 (02:15:57):
You know, we kind of fl flot Jackson little flirtation
maybe yet.

Speaker 2 (02:16:03):
Whether it's whether it's with Southern cal or whether it
was l s U. And they both had truth to it,
but they both neither neither, you know, came about for
one reason or another. And that's that's for another show.
We can't we can't get too many nuggets on one show.

Speaker 8 (02:16:20):
Well, when you when you get back and are coming
through here to see me and play golf, and we'll
come back into studio for four hours and we'll hit
them all man, you know that.

Speaker 2 (02:16:27):
There you go, there you go, all right, Well we'll
hit it again. Well, if I ever if I ever
write the book my wife telling my name is right, then.

Speaker 8 (02:16:37):
I'm I'm on I'm on Linda's side. This story needs
to be heard. I've known you since we are sophomores
in high school, and I haven't heard this one. And
I know there's more to follow.

Speaker 9 (02:16:45):
What's that? What more for you?

Speaker 5 (02:16:46):
Real quick?

Speaker 7 (02:16:47):
Jack?

Speaker 9 (02:16:47):
Before we let you go. It is draft week.

Speaker 6 (02:16:48):
We did hear from Texans GM Nick Cassario this past
week and and some of the sound bites he had
were interesting about drafting.

Speaker 5 (02:16:56):
He said they never draft for need.

Speaker 6 (02:16:58):
He said, you always go best player of who's the
best player on your board. But you gotta be real sometimes, Jack, like,
sometimes you do have to draft for need. Sometimes there's
a guy staring at you and Okay, he's may not
be at the top of our board, but he addresses
a major need. For for us, just curious what your
philosophy is when it comes to drafting.

Speaker 2 (02:17:17):
Well, really, that's what I was saying earlier. You know,
you know, you make mistakes when you draft for needs,
so that that's a fact.

Speaker 7 (02:17:24):
So Nick Nick is saying what is true.

Speaker 2 (02:17:27):
The problem is is showing up on draft day and
not having your board kind of contorted.

Speaker 7 (02:17:33):
To fit the needs that you have. I mean, it's
just it's natural.

Speaker 2 (02:17:36):
You know, you you bend it a little bit because
of things that you know you need to fulfill the rosters.
So it's unfortunate, but it happens to everyone. Uh and
and and if you guard against it, and you do
things where you're able to take value, like say, you
know somebody else in the league that needs that that player,
and maybe they're going to package some picks and you

(02:17:58):
could move away from that spot and not be there
where the best player available doesn't fit your board, you know,
I mean, like doesn't fit your team because maybe you're
loaded at that position. So you know, things like that
do happen. But I'll go back and tell you that
Augie knew some story before I got to Baltimore. They
had a draft where they selected Jonathan Ogden and ray

(02:18:21):
Lewis in the same draft, and Jonathan was taken I
think third overall, and they had already signed the offensive tackle,
you know, like in free agency, like paid big money.

Speaker 7 (02:18:33):
He was going to be the tackler.

Speaker 2 (02:18:34):
So it was like, well, what are you gonna do
with Augden? Well, they just put him at guard for
a year, and then the next year he moved the
tackle and then he had a you know, fourteen year
careers and all Pro guard you know, want g you know,
gold jacket type guy. So and then they came back
in the first round and got ray Lewis, and so
I was a pretty good draft that year when they

(02:18:55):
got Jonathan Ogden Hall of Fame, ray Lewis Hall of Fame.
That was pretty That was pretty good by Housing.

Speaker 8 (02:19:01):
Yeah, you think he had some good ones and those
two both with that gold jack you're talking about my man,
enjoy the Louver the Eiffel Tower. I know you've seen him.
And tell that good wife yours, Linda, I love her
and I miss you. When you're done with this season,
come on by, brother and we'll spend some time catching up.
And I look forward to the stories and the book
I'm going to be on Linda's side. We're writing that book,
meaning you're writing it with a kick to the ass.

Speaker 9 (02:19:23):
There you go. We've got too many good stories for us.
We got to read them.

Speaker 7 (02:19:27):
It sounds good, man.

Speaker 2 (02:19:29):
You know, I love Football'm over here in Paris, tasts
these guys American football and having a blast doing it and.

Speaker 7 (02:19:36):
Looking forward to season. Or you gotta look into the
jamb of this strobot. But the the.

Speaker 2 (02:19:42):
Season starts soon, mate, seventeenth, we get started and and
by the time we're done, I'll be coming over to
watch the NFL. So I'll be home in time from
the NFL. So I look forward to catching up with
you brother.

Speaker 8 (02:19:54):
You too, brother, I'll be in touch. I'll drop you
a line this week. And I appreciate you and love
you man, my best of your family.

Speaker 7 (02:20:00):
Okay, Sean, you know I love you as well.

Speaker 9 (02:20:02):
All right, brother, Thanks, that's my guy, man, my guy.
First time.

Speaker 8 (02:20:06):
First time Jack and I met real quick, Gordy was
we were both invited. One one thing about it is
we talked about three sports stars that get invited. Jack
and I were both invited. Jack was a point guard
at six or four in high school and played catcher
and i'd see he was our catcher on the same
team that Randy Johnson Mark McGuire. Jack was catcher on
that team, and we were loaded with a bunch of
two sport athletes, three sport athletes.

Speaker 9 (02:20:27):
But I met Jack.

Speaker 8 (02:20:28):
We were at the invite the top one hundred players
they invited into what they call Superstar Camp basketball camp
in San Diego and in Point Loma, and that was
the first time a lot of the guys you'd recognize
their coaches, but Jack and I were there, and that
was the very first time we'd met each other because
we'd known because of the California coverage of being athletes.
And then from then on we became dear friends. And
then when I signed a week later, he was coming

(02:20:49):
on his recruiting trip and so I went back up
desk see and kind of helped host. And from then
on we've been the tighter and mouse nuts Gordie for
a lot of years and then teammates in Minnesota as well,
and one of my favorite people of all time.

Speaker 6 (02:21:01):
So I love it that that gig he's got doesn't
sucker right now. Just came out of seeing the Mona
Lisa and thank yous to go coach football.

Speaker 8 (02:21:09):
And when mama's happy. Yeah, you've been married to Linda.
What a phenomenal family and great woman for a lot
of years. And like I said, he'll get a lot
of hall pass in the fall because Linda gets to
enjoy all summer long and nice little Paris and they'll
have a blast. And Jack's one of my favorite people
on the planet. I'm glad it's doing. He's getting a
chance to do.

Speaker 9 (02:21:25):
This, no doubt.

Speaker 6 (02:21:26):
All right, when we return, uh Niko yamaliovo all that drama.

Speaker 5 (02:21:30):
He found a home. We'll discuss that next year on
the Shawn Salzburg Show.

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Speaker 9 (02:23:01):
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Speaker 5 (02:23:09):
There was some big names play over the Yeah, you
know why I didn't.

Speaker 8 (02:23:12):
I didn't because my first two years in the league,
I played and got a little experience. And then when
I went over there and it was the good experience.
We won the Great Cup immediately and I had a
really good year. And then I stayed another year and
we were like at the top of the league in passing.
I mean, we had good players, and so I went
on like an eight team circuit afterwards. In the NFL,
my contractors up. I signed a two year deal, and

(02:23:33):
so I when I went on a little free agent tour,
you know, for Green Bay and Tampa and New Orleans
and Minnesota. I had gone through a bunch of different
Dallas had stopped and worked out for him along the way.
At that point in time, I had had a little
bit of experience to come in where and then my
workouts went well. So I was able to sign with
Minnesota and the rest was history of staying there the

(02:23:55):
majority of the career. So didn't have to but I
would have just like I would have never thought I
would have considered going to the CFL, But to be
able to go win and call your own plays and
get that experience was really immeasurable for me in my
career to get it to the next level. And I
wasn't a different player. I just had a chance to play,
and then they kind of look at you different because

(02:24:15):
you come back with experience. Even though I'd started for
four years at SC, I needed those for me as
well coming off knee injury. So it was good for me.
And then we won.

Speaker 9 (02:24:24):
And I don't care where you win a championships, a championship,
what was good? Yeah, just kind of hit try.

Speaker 6 (02:24:28):
I'm looking at that roster and it's a bunch of
beauty you never heard of. But it's a good mix
of American football players and European football players. And again,
if you're good enough over there, you'll get the calling
to come over here.

Speaker 9 (02:24:40):
There you go get a chance. At least that's right.

Speaker 5 (02:24:42):
I was watching a little bit.

Speaker 6 (02:24:43):
I had the Roughnecks on the TV over the weekend
and watching them, and they got some pretty good players
over there. But it's the same kind of deal. You're
good enough in the UFL, you're going to get that
call up to come up to.

Speaker 8 (02:24:54):
The end, right and at least get a chance to
prove yourself on a practice field, and then that's the
you know, and then some go there to a certain
place like Canada want to make a career out of it,
and they have made a great career Damon Allen, Marcus's brother,
twenty years of it. So yeah, it just kind of depends.
But I enjoyed my experience. Anytime you can get experience
and still do what you love. And like Jack said,
he's coaching and his wife gets to be with him,

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so he's happy, and she's happy because she gets to
go where she's wanted to live part of the time,
and that's in Europe. So it's a double whammy and
a good win for both of them.

Speaker 6 (02:25:23):
Do you think there's an enough of an appetite for
these other leagues though?

Speaker 5 (02:25:26):
For football?

Speaker 6 (02:25:27):
I mean, it feels like the NFL is just king.
It feels like we had so many of these different iterations,
but they're just they never pale in comparison.

Speaker 9 (02:25:35):
Gordy.

Speaker 8 (02:25:35):
That's why in the spring football, heck, we got spring
football going away a lot of times. He's right, for
the colleges now, I personally for me and I want
the kids to succeed. I want him to have an opportunity.
I like to see coaches get an extra chance to coach.
I just don't see how the spring league. If you're
looking to make money, that ain't it. We could use
a minor league, there's no doubt. But it is King

(02:25:57):
and you can't go against him in the fall and
then the spring. I mean, I'm kicked. I'm in draft mode,
but I'm in baseball mode right and you're in hoops
mode and KI in the Final Four and the March
Madness and the NBA playoffs. So I want it to happen.
But I'm not a big spring football guy myself. I
wanted to succeed, but anytime you can get experience and get.

Speaker 9 (02:26:16):
A chance to come back to the NFL.

Speaker 8 (02:26:17):
But yes, you're always going to have a hard time
getting eyes in the spring because of other sports. But
more importantly is you're never going to be able to
compete in the fall with it.

Speaker 6 (02:26:27):
The NFL is not for everybody, and that's why some
people are saying, look, if you're good enough college player,
get your money now. Son, And there was a guy
who was trying to get his money now, but it's
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Speaker 9 (02:27:42):
Yeah, how'd that work out for him?

Speaker 7 (02:27:44):
Now?

Speaker 9 (02:27:44):
May and up working out for him, but not on
the not on the front side of the bus.

Speaker 5 (02:27:47):
Saturday morning, he was off the team.

Speaker 6 (02:27:49):
Josh Eipel said, nobody is bigger than the big tea
and he was off the team. And so now the
last week there's been all kinds of speculation on where
he's going to. Well, we started to see a lot
of schools Sewan go Nope, not interested, USC, Notre Dame,
even Tulane went not, We're good. And ultimately he winds

(02:28:10):
up back home in Los Angeles with UCLA, and the
reports are I've not seen the exact money he's getting,
but they said somewhere between one to two million is
what he's getting.

Speaker 5 (02:28:22):
What he was going to make there, Yeah, I mean
he was making over to see.

Speaker 6 (02:28:26):
So he took a pay cut and by the way,
cost a living way higher in LA than Knoxville, Tennessee.

Speaker 8 (02:28:31):
And quite frankly, took a step back team wise. It's
in position to compete for a national championship. There's no
doubt about that, and maybe he makes them better and
I root for him. Listen, he made a decision. It
was the wrong decision at least on the surface, to
challenge he thought. He probably thought there's no way they
let me go, and they did. And now he's got
to go into opportunity closer to his family. Is that

(02:28:51):
a good thing or not? We're gonna find out and
then to go play you know, quarterback there, which is
going to disrupt the apple cart in that room too,
because they have a I think a seven figure guy
that was a transfer as well quarterback. Now they're going
to have to make that decision. You know, it's interesting
money and I think a lot of the reason why
the attention to focus and detail on him as opposed
to others that have done it is remember when he

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was coming out of high school that Florida wasn't that
the eleven million billion ap You're eleven million dollars that
they had in Nio waiting on him. And then when
they when he feel like he wasn't going to get
it or they were renegged on that offer, he renegged
on Florida. Correct find out.

Speaker 6 (02:29:27):
Mistaken wash okay, different shot okay.

Speaker 5 (02:29:31):
And he's on to his like third or fourth school.

Speaker 9 (02:29:33):
That was exactly right?

Speaker 8 (02:29:34):
Did but did did he have a big offer from somebody?

Speaker 9 (02:29:38):
I knew the guy you're talking about was eleven million?

Speaker 7 (02:29:40):
Right?

Speaker 5 (02:29:41):
Yeah, Tennessee was in on him.

Speaker 6 (02:29:42):
It was a ten million dollar deal total with UH
with Tennessee if he played all four four years?

Speaker 8 (02:29:48):
Okay, right, but what's the other kid's name you just said?
That's right, he's the one that isn't He transferred twice already.

Speaker 6 (02:29:55):
He signed with Florida and then we're going to get
he wasn't going to get the money, and then went
to Arizona State, played a year there, left there, went
to Georgia this past year or he just sat on
the roster, didn't do anything, and now he's back in
the portal. He's Arizona State. Yes, exactly right. He's sitting
North Carolina this week. But North Carolina just got the
kid from South Alabama. Take notes, because you're gonna have

(02:30:16):
to keep up with all this.

Speaker 8 (02:30:17):
There you go, that's exactly different school. Rashata was the
one that originally was committed to Billy Napiers, Right, Okay.

Speaker 6 (02:30:24):
Now that one I give a little bit of credence
to because apparently they had a big money donor that
said I got it whatever you need. And then when
Tom came to pay the kid, the guy wasn't answering
his phone and anywhere to be found, and the coaches
was in there looking stupid, going what did we just do?

Speaker 8 (02:30:39):
I don't blame him for taking off on that one.
You can't find where the money's coming from. Like agree,
But now it's turned out that the decision not to
pay him one way or the other was probably worth it.

Speaker 6 (02:30:49):
Right now, Tennessee was paying. You know, I always go
back to know your worth. He was getting paid his worth.
Nico was getting paid two million. You're you could argue
he was being overpaid from the production on the THEA.

Speaker 9 (02:31:00):
He was getting paid on high school potential.

Speaker 3 (02:31:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:31:02):
Now I thought he was going to take a step
forward to be better this year. But now I think,
as Klay Travis put it, he said, Nico pulled off
the negative trifecta less money, worse team, and worse offensive coaching.
Hard to make a worse decision in the nil area era,
but should be a cautionary tale.

Speaker 8 (02:31:18):
He rolled the dice, and unfortunately, like I said, now, hey,
at this time, next year, we could be saying guy
had a great year. UCLA was in contention, made the
playoff and which is not going to happen. But made
the playoff, and this guy is going to be a
top five pick in the draft. Great because he is.
I know it's gone back and forth. He is a
red shirt freshman right now, guy is going to be

(02:31:39):
a red shirt sophomore. You only have to been three
years on campus. I think I had heard. I think
even Herbstreet had mentioned he was a true freshman at
one point on a on a show or something this
year exactly. So he is eligible to play one and
be gone if that's what he wants to do, and
he plays out well. But Clay Travis one hundred percent.
Right on the surface, he did not win one bit
other than getting closer to California to family, if it's exact,

(02:32:02):
if that's what he wanted. But on the money game,
he he pushed the envelope and the envelope was empty.

Speaker 5 (02:32:07):
Now give credit to UCLA.

Speaker 6 (02:32:08):
They're going to open the season against Utah on August
thirtieth at the Rose Bowl. They spent they wasted no
time shown capitalizing on this. They send an email to fans,
featuring a graphic of Nico in a Bruins jersey and
a link to season ticket deposits for next season, saying,
now is your chance to be part of this electric
new era of UCLA football.

Speaker 8 (02:32:29):
Almost feels a little uh the body's not even cold yet, okay,
but jumping all over it, which means obviously that room's
gonna possibly have disruption in the quarterback room. With that
and with the decision by Nico. Do you think that
one and done guy, or do you think that it's

(02:32:49):
going to be one of those where where he or
is it just depend on the season.

Speaker 6 (02:32:53):
I mean, I think there's a chance he has an
okay year there and he's back in the portal next year.

Speaker 8 (02:32:59):
Yeah. I guess a better question is portal next year
or NFL next year?

Speaker 5 (02:33:02):
I don't think NFL. I mean, he had not ready
for that right to turn.

Speaker 8 (02:33:06):
Heads right, but they they he gambled and sometimes you
make the wrong decision. I hope it turns out well
for him, but there's nothing he did on the surface
so far that gave him a better opportunity to succeed.

Speaker 6 (02:33:17):
Well, you know, the other awkward part of all this
is the Bruins had a commitment from his younger brother
Madden i am Alaiava, who on signing day in December
flipped and backed off his verbal commitment and signed with Arkansas. Right,
so you just got spurned by the brother and now
here comes the older brother going, oh, I'd love to
play for you guys.

Speaker 8 (02:33:37):
With this change and thing with with this being one
of the first time somebody, at least on the that
we can that we know about, of a high, high
profile starting quarterback asking for more money like an NFL
holdout and not showing up and them saying a lot
of times in the NFL, we just let you hold out,
find you and when you come to camp, you're ready

(02:33:57):
to go. No, no damage done. But they just said no, no,
we don't want that here, and you're gone. Is there
a chance that if you're Deshaun Foster because the rules allowed,
but in order to stop it from happening, are we
ever going to get to the point where that fraternity
of coaches is, oh, he left you and he turned
us down originally, I don't want him here.

Speaker 5 (02:34:17):
I think that's what we saw here.

Speaker 6 (02:34:18):
I think that because on the surface he was a
five star talent available, right, you would think coaches would
be tripping over each other to go get him.

Speaker 5 (02:34:26):
Right, And yet what did we start here? Not interested?
Not interested?

Speaker 9 (02:34:29):
I mean you said Tulane was not interesting.

Speaker 6 (02:34:32):
Yeah, I mean when you start getting that, I mean
Bill Belichick in North Carolina, he's looking to make a splash.

Speaker 5 (02:34:37):
This is a splash right here.

Speaker 6 (02:34:38):
You get a five star quarterback, come in, he's available,
You got the money to pay him.

Speaker 9 (02:34:41):
Yeah, this is not interested? Right?

Speaker 8 (02:34:43):
So just like that, So he, like I said, he gambled.
Now now he probably and probably had a little humble
pie along the way. Now he gets to go chance
in a stadium that won't be quite as filled as Knoxville,
I assure you, yeah, and see what he does there,
and if the enthusiasm and being closer to family is
a good thing or feels like it's a helicopter thing
that he can't get away from. I'm anxious to see
how this kid plays and wear his mental and emotional

(02:35:05):
toughness fit after being looked at and basically say you're
not good enough for us to give a pay raise too.
And he didn't get one either place.

Speaker 6 (02:35:12):
And hope you enjoyed your one playoff game at Tennessee.
I don't think you'll be making the playoff again, at
least not at you see.

Speaker 9 (02:35:20):
I would I would say that your chances are pretty slim.

Speaker 6 (02:35:23):
Yeah, all right, when we were turning out on the
Seawn Salisbury Show, we will give you a reason why
the Rockets will bounce back and win Game two coming
up on Wednesday night, stick around coming up next.

Speaker 4 (02:35:35):
Let the celebration startre Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 6 (02:35:39):
Ninety hours or an hour so prior, and he was
still on the court, take it on his game tickets.
Some bunnies at the rims just kind of working on
the Rockets. The one thing they did was they they
got after it in the paint. They outrebounded the Warriors
by a lot.

Speaker 9 (02:35:56):
They were in the fifties. I think the Warriors had
thirty eight or thirty nine rebounds. They were. I think
they beat them by double digits.

Speaker 6 (02:36:01):
Yeah, on the glass and the Rockets on the you
know inside at the Rim they attacked and they Alpi
Shangun at twenty six points. I mean they were getting
after it. Steven Adams had the twelve rebounds six points.
So I ask you, Sean, as they hit the practice
court today getting ready for game two on Wednesday. What's
your message if you're in Meyodoka.

Speaker 8 (02:36:23):
Probably we beat ourselves. They didn't beat us. I mean
we all like you know you'll you'll use that. But
also I also think that recognizing the room and understanding
continue to defend because they played good. Listen, you keep
gold State under one hundred points, you're gonna be in
every game. You have a legitimate chance, but you got
a score. I think the thing is I don't think
is going to make a big deal that we weren't playing.

(02:36:45):
We didn't play both ends of the floor. I think
it just simply comes down to execution. I don't think
think you need to browbeat it. You're the two seed.
You played against the team who's got great championship chops,
and you just didn't knock down threes and make free throws.
So the messages makes you get back to the line
and work on it and psychologically get over it. I
wouldn't harp on game one too long, but I listen,

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you don't want to get down two oh and fly
out a private planet Golden State.

Speaker 9 (02:37:10):
That's not fun.

Speaker 8 (02:37:11):
They're really good there, and they are they get it
and two to zero against anybody's tough enough to overcome.
So yeah, I don't think the loud mess. I don't
think it requires a big speech, Gordy, I don't. I
think this is the time. Had you a one like that,
Let's say the game turned out and they hit one
extra shot or a couple extra shots, and the roles reversed,
and you would have won it in a kind of
an ugly game. I sure as hell wouldn't have gone

(02:37:32):
into game too thinking we got this. Man, Hey, you
still would even coached harder, knowing, man, we could have
increased that lead a little bit more. So, I think
it's a fine line to me. This wasn't about effort,
and it sure tech wasn't about game plan. It was
just simple execution. If you can't knock down threes, can't
knock down shots, you got to the backboards, which is attitude,
and you also end positioning, and you also play defense.

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They just hit more shots and you didn't make better
for you that they're better to the free throw line.
And I think you can do that, But I don't
think you need to be labor and a soliloquy over
the points of what could have happened I think if
the little execution game too, and I think, you know,
without mentioning, if Van Vliet and Jalen Green both got
to step their game up.

Speaker 6 (02:38:13):
Yeah, and look, the thirteen points in the second quarter
ain't gonna get it done. I mean, you're you're lucky
you made this thing game. You were down forty seven
to thirty fourth to half, and in the fourth quarter
it was a seventy six to seventy three game. You
bowed your ass off to get back into it. But
it shouldn't have had to have been that way. You
shouldn't have had a second quarter deficit that bad where

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just nothing happened.

Speaker 8 (02:38:36):
Well, you're not beating anybody going scoring less than you know,
if you score under twenty point. You said thirteen right
in the second quarter. You're not gonna beat many teams,
let alone Golden State doing that. Yet you still found
a way, I think the ability to state that that's
why you don't coach effort. You don't have to teach
them competitiveness. They know it wasn't some speech from Udoka
that got them back into what it was is knowing

(02:38:57):
that we played poorly in the second quarter, and it's
just it is a constant grind every time up and
down the floor. But you will always be in games
and it travels. If you play defense, and they did,
and if they just knock down the normal amount of shots,
the result may have been different. I don't think this
takes a big speech. I think it takes simple execution,
and I think it's on the players.

Speaker 6 (02:39:16):
Yeah, it's it's wild. I'm watching rewatching. There was a
moment of the game late when Shongoon and I mean,
Draymond Green's just God, he's such a pass many part of.

Speaker 8 (02:39:28):
The reason he's, part of the reason he stays in
the league, I think, is to hassle people.

Speaker 6 (02:39:31):
He comes and he's and he's pushing shoving Alpie, and
Albie just looks at him and then shoves him again,
and the rest are standing right there, like I'll break
it up, breaking like I mean, like they let him
get away with Dubach.

Speaker 8 (02:39:43):
He gets it, he gets extra he gets an extra
link in the chain.

Speaker 6 (02:39:47):
Yeah, there's no doubt if that. It reminds me of
the old Seahawks team. So Richard Sherman would get all handsy. Well,
if you get handsy every play, they can't call it
every play. That's like Draymond's like, it's almost like you.
They roll their eyes like, oh, it's just Draymond. Let
him play.

Speaker 8 (02:40:00):
No, he's got to be held to the same standard,
but he knows he's not, and he milks it. And
he's one of the great antagonizers we've ever had.

Speaker 6 (02:40:07):
Well, nothing would make me happier than to send that
guy home. So let's get a Rockets win.

Speaker 8 (02:40:11):
Wonder what he sounds a lot better than O two
going on the road, Gordy.

Speaker 6 (02:40:14):
Even this stuff up all right? Coming up next it
is the Matt Thomas Show. Dann Matthews will be back
in with you tomorrow, Sewan. So it's been a lot
of fun.

Speaker 9 (02:40:22):
Thank you so much. I appreciate you. Sleep till noon tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (02:40:26):
Coming up next, Matt Thomas Show with Ross right here
at sports Talks of a Nuney