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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saul Salbury.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hod okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury to usc Troup's
longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dan Matthewscus.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is the Sean Salisbury show.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Is to Laurow, a man snails it from him to Fred.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Four on one Fred bounce pass on the trail to Thompson,
blocked by Post, gets his own rebound, puts it up
his stars and he's found with a chance at the three.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
Point play grabbed in midair by Brooks.
Speaker 6 (00:40):
Brooks going against Butler, turns it back out left van
Lee twenty seven feet and.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
That's nothing, but not.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
On ten in the corner for Fred and his third
three rockets up by eighteen.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
It's Green against Loony down the lane, kicks a baseline
right setting firing.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
And heading up Hoorray.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
It's tiring Ethans into twenty eight point lead at fifty
two to twenty four Eathan screened by Adams down the lane,
high off the window and in for two five in
er owd for Tarre thirty point lead. Eighteen consecutive rocket
points curry.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
Across mit court met there by a men Thompson.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Another steal for a man Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Down? On me the lane and a chareble right hand
and he's found for behind a silly silly found on
Jimmy Butler and an opportunity for a three point play.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
The make was by Moody, who finishes with twenty five.
But ladies and gentlemen inside Tote Center.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
It is a rackets playoff win, and these two teams are.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
Headed back to San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Final score Houston one thirty one, Golden State one sixteen.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Tomorrow there is tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (02:02):
How about that a Rocket's able to take care of business?
Last night you heard Matt Thomas just give you the
final score. And with all that we say away we
go in good morning here on the Sean.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Salisbury Show, Sean much Better. We liked that version much better.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Well do we? You know, I personally it looked to
me like Golden State was preparing for Game six. I'm sorry,
it just did. Now. Part of that Dan has got
to be the way the Rockets jumped out to put
it on him early. I actually think it was one
of those kind of test games. You saw the minutes
and the rest of it. One of those test games.
(02:41):
Let's see how we start and see how this thing
goes and then we'll get our guys fresh. We won't
zude too much energy after we get our ass handed
to us. Had they come out and been up by
the way the Rockets played against them, it might have
been a different story. But it almost felt to me like, Okay,
let's test it well, tonight's not our night, that's not
wear it out. And then the Rockets put it on
(03:01):
them and put their foot down. And that's without Jalen
Green dominating, and it's with Van Vliet and the whole
group doing their thing last night. And I'm gonna tell you,
look at the free throws. Just look at the free throws.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Massive difference there.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
They shot almost forty of them and made what thirty
two or thirty three? If I remember going to bed
last night, there you go thirty two or what thirty eight?
That's it. That's gonna win, that's gonna win games. It's
it's it's it's not it's not a whole you know,
there's other things to go along with and not letting
Butler and Steph Curry dominate a game and getting production
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from you know, a bunch of people. And Fred looked
like a you know, a top notch player in the
NBA last night. It looked like a guy with playoff experience.
But they they gave Golden State everything, they everything that
they needed last night. And I had you know, we
talked about it yesterday and we were leaving the building
about you know, and at the end of the show
(03:56):
and threw out about the Rockets and that we felt
that they'd win this ballgame and head back. And it
was one of those that Golden State got a pretty
good feel early on that the Rockets came to play
and they were sharp from the free throw line. See,
it goes to show when you do this. Now it's
the teaser. You can't give us the fact that, well,
you know, they're just not a good free throw shooting team,
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whether it's concentration or focus. Now, there's a lot more
that goes into this game. But it isn't it uncanny
how you say okay, even if you didn't watch going in,
the first thing you did was say, okay, look at
Butler and Curry's line, And then how they play shooting
free throws. The you know, the unforced air can you
go to the line, make them or miss them? What's
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that damage due to either you or the other team?
If you're good or you're not at the line, and
that'll tell you the story of the game.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
It definitely just and it did.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, we just did.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
Yeah, it definitely did. And you know a couple of
things of what you just mentioned right there. I mean,
one is, you know, the the good what you mentioned
with the free throws thirty two of thirty fifty five
percent from the field.
Speaker 8 (05:02):
For the night.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
That was the next thing that might have even been
just as important the way they shot it, I mean
to interrupt you, Dan, was their their ability to knock
down high percentage of shots from a lot of different
places last night.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Yeah, that was massive.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
And you know the other part of it too, as
you mentioned, I mean, I do see what you're saying
about Steve Kerr saying, hey, look we've got a lifeline here.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
This night's just not going.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
It kind of reminded me of there was a regular
season game, I think it was the second to last
meeting these two teams had, and it was the shoe
was on the other foot. The rockets were the ones
that the starter is just getting blown out. Hemy Giudoka said,
you know what, why don't you guys take the rest
of the night off? And then you've got Jay Shawn Taate,
Nate Williams and Jock Landale and all these guys nearly
(05:45):
leading the Rockets back.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
And we kind of saw that too. I mean the
Rockets up.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
By I mean, what was their largest lead, thirty thirty
one something like that, and there with about nine minutes
left to go, it's down to like twelve, and you're
kind of like, oh my god, they're gonna have to
sweat this thing out.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I've never seen the white flag waved.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
And the other team says, okay, well, if they're taking
their guys out, we can take cars too. But then
you meet don't goad to quickly go back to his
guys and say, hey, heat pads, ice bags, don't put
them on just yet.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
You're going back out there.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, And I do. I think it was I swear
going in. I think it was a field game. I
think he was gonna Kerr was going to judge energy
wise and how they were playing, and what you were
getting out of Houston and your team and how it
was played out. And you saw a playout and then
you're just going, okay, just stay on reserve and we'll
see how it felt to me and that's not taking
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away from the way the Rockets putting on them. I
think they were saying, okay, yeah, obviously they came in
to win. You try to get out of a series,
you won't rest. You're trying to get out of a
series as quickly as possible. But once it started to
flow the way the Rockets had intended, I think Steve
Kerr was not going to over exert, especially down thirty plus,
you aren't going to say the energy it's going to
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take to get us back in with our starters and
win this game on the road for a team that
we handled it, you know, we got the series in control,
and what it would have taken for And think about it.
Now they've got they've got a few veterans to get
a little long in the tooth. Qualified players, but long
in the tooth. So let's test this thing and see
(07:19):
what it is. Hey, man, if you're in a four
hundred meter race and you're at the three hundred meter
mark and the guy's got you by forty meters, I'm
going to suggest that's right, and it's the quality, and
it's a qualifying heat and you just got to get
to the final run. You ain't trying to win the race.
At that point in time, you're just getting in safe
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and healthy, so you have a chance to run in
the final. Were your last eight runners now four hundred meet,
I got that extra burst the energy. You try to
go too much. You still qualify, but you finished the
second the qualifying and you've sent that last hundred me
is just out of pride and ego, trying to chase
the guy down. And now you've exerted everything. So when
you get to the final, you finished sixth. Get it
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looked them and maybe I'm wrong from somebody else's vantage point,
and I think it had to do with the Rockets
putting it on them early. Don't misunderstand me. If Golden
State's up fourteen, they're playing there, guys, you're getting they're
getting minutes, and they're going to go try to close
this thing out. But the way the game shaped up,
and you could see pretty early what was happening, with
the way that the Rockets were playing and knocking down
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free throws and the way they were shooting the basketball
and playing on the defensive end, they did a hell
of a job of it, especially early in the game.
And to get that lead at that point in time,
I think Steve kurb made that decision of Okay, this
gets in within six or eight. Maybe it's a different story.
But and if you're right in the fourth quarter, I'm
sitting there watching thinking, okay, it started to close down
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a little bit, but they were able to stave it off.
But I don't think that they were in there in
a huddle at a time out at the beginning of
the fourth quarter or in the third saying all right,
everybody back in, we're going to go try to win
this thing. Not saying they quit. But they paced themselves
late after the Rockets had put their foot on their
throat early, and it got to the point where saying
(09:01):
we're waiting for the you know, the final race, and
we're not. We're not. We're not meaning you know, I
qualified for this. Now we'll go back to Game six
and deal with you in our building with a full
amount of energy. Not did we over exceeded to still
lose by seven if that would have been the case,
I think that was a whether you like it or not,
it was. It was I think absolutely part of what
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they were trying to do once they knew you're down
thirty plus, that's a lot of energy to get back
into it. Even if you say, well, the games are
never over, but imagine exerting all that energy, Dan, and
then the game's too You still get beat and now
you've got to go back and deal with game six.
And it's like, okay, man, it took a lot of effort.
You know, it just did so rockets. I mean it
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was because of them. But I got news for you.
At Golden State, they'll be fresh legged ready to go
after that ass whooping. And it was for the most
part last night. And now you got to go back
in their building and see how it is. But impressive
effort shooting the basketball and the when they got free
out opportunities they knocked him out. Then they knocked free
throws down and that was a huge That's what I
(10:05):
was watching for him. How are you how's Jalen going
to play? And they were still able to overcome. But
look what happened. He did not He's had four or
three not real good games. Last night was I mean,
he got them. He got himself about seven eight rebounds,
so he played decent. He was in the plus category
in the game. He just didn't score like you used to.
And they still want, you know, handsomely why because the
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other things we just talked about. They played defense, They
shot the basketball well, very well, and they knocked down
free throws and free opportunities, which thirty two of their
points came into free throw line. That's at thirty eight
you know, opportunities. So that was it, and then Golden
State decides, well, you know that decision was made in
the third quarter. I believe that I we'll see in
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Game six.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Yeah, I mean, but for the good that the Rockets did.
You mentioned the defensive part of it, and you know
that's something we can talk about too as the show
goes along. I mean, that was the nice thing to see.
I thought that we saw a more free flowing team
last night. Like I think that we saw the team
that we saw fifty two times this year be able
to play really good basketball and be the team that's
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the number two team in the West. So it was
nice to see that version as opposed to the oh
we're in the playoffs. This is different type of version
that I think we had seen for at least three
times in this series.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
So what dan it looked to me also just talking
about that, you know, we went into this saying, okay,
they got a couple veterans that have been in the
league for a minute, got a ring, meaning I mean
Fred van Vliet with his ring. My thought was, and
we talked about it, don't don't play not to lose
and too cute, and okay, that's that naive thing that
a lot of young players who've not been in a
(11:45):
playoff situation. I don't know what this is supposed to
look like. So to me, it's just another basketball game
at the gym, or series? Should I say and just
go let it rip? Well, I think they've been tentative
at times in this series. It's Golden State, it's oh
my gosh, it's you know, we're in the playoffs. We
haven't been in this situation a while. We're the two seed,
so it can be overwhelming. And also to the point
where you're playing not to lose, you're getting really fine
(12:08):
and cute, which you want to do, but you don't
want to be thinking about that. You just want that
to be natural. And we said going into last night,
let it rip. Man, you're not getting it done by
you know, trying to methodically and overthinking everything and standing
at the free throw line and bricking shots up and
going nineteen to thirty one. Last night, it looked like
a team that said, you know what, if we're going home,
(12:30):
we're going home on the terms that we are just
letting it rip and playing like a team that's got it.
It's relaxed and has the three to one lead, and
it showed last night. They looked like a young, energetic
team with some proper veteran leadership that did their thing
and got a lot of people into it on the
defense of an offensive end. And even when one of
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your top scorers again for the five games, is hovering
around double digits, you know, eight nine, what you get
eleven or something last night whatever it was, so and
then everybody else did their job, and then you shot
free throw. So yeah, I thought last night not just
free flowing. I thought last night looked a lot more relaxed.
Whether that means you were in your building, but you've
got to bring that same energy in that same I
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don't want to say you don't care about the result,
but there's something to be said for I don't care
about the result. It's it's the journey. Just enjoy along
the way. The result will take care of itself. We
do that, and it will take care of itself at
Golden State too. If they do the same thing, play
like they did last night, they can go into Golden
State and win in that building. And now and now
it's a whole different. We're looking a whole different coming
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back for Game seven.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
Yeah, I mean, and that that was the other part
of it too. I mean, just you know, being able
to play the way that they did last night. And
you know, more importantly, Sean, you didn't get knocked out
in five. I mean, it's like I said, there's two
scenarios that are embarrassing for you in a playoff series.
You get swept or you lose in five. And the
Lakers can't say that because they got knocked out last night.
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Paul Bracito, whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
What do you think about their performance?
Speaker 7 (14:02):
Well, it wasn't necessarily the performance. It was their head coach.
And that's something we're going to get into as the
show goes along. Because I am all the way out
on that guy. I have been, but this completely pushed
me off the edge last night.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So you're out on JJ Redd.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
He is such a d dude, Like I just I
can't deal with them. And you can take whatever interpretation
of d that is, and we'll let you hear from
him as the show continues. Well, also get into some astros.
They're off today, but they lost just day seven four
to the Tigers. So all of these things at your disposal,
John on the northwest side to see you right there.
(14:38):
We'll get to you here and we'll continue here on
the Sean Salisbury Show.
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Speaker 2 (15:19):
This is this Sean Salisbury Show, right, I mean, I think,
I think from the movie forty Year Old virgin. People
think that he's like always been on on his own,
and it's like, oh, he was in Adobie Brothers, Like
I fell for that trick.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, I'll go say, yeah he was a Doobie brother
That's what most people think. He was singing with Patty
LaBelle and their duet, you know when they're labbing. But yeah,
big time Doobie brother love.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Michael McDonald, Absolutely, I got me.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I mean I'm not. It's early and he's got me
blowing over here, you know, blowing pipes are already early
in the morning.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Fired up, that's it.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
We got the wirlitzer out, we got the keys going.
We're feeling good here. We're feeling good, especially because the
Rockets win at one thirty one, one sixteen.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Anytime you say warlots are the first day it comes
to my mind is Oregon at the ballpark?
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
You know what I'm saying. The warlitzer. Yeah, there you go,
and you you did a good job applying it to
a Mike McDonald cut. I like it. Oh, Michael McDonald,
there you go.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
It's I mean, it's it's incredibly It's required if you're
if you're going to have a yacht rock song, you
have to have a worlitzer.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
There's no doubt. But you uh, I mean, get the doobies,
we get the yacht you know the yacht rock early
you played the warlitzer card. I mean that's the way.
It's just whatever a full believes. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (16:36):
We're doing it right this morning. We're doing it right
at six twenty one in the morning. John and Billy
get to you guys in the second. But as mentioned,
Rockets stay alive. Game six tomorrow night. Lakers eliminated in five,
so uh see you guys later and the Astros off today.
But they beat the Tigers, or excuse me, they lose
to the Tigers yesterday seven to four and take two
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out of three in that series. But Sean one thing
that was a storyline in the game last night. I
guess that one of the Warriors broadcasters, I don't know
if it was on their TV side, their radio side.
Apparently it's said on the air that they thought that
Dylan Brooks was intentionally going after Steph Curry's injured thumb.
And of course that was asked in the post game
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as somebody as a matter of fact asked email Udoka
about it.
Speaker 9 (17:25):
One of the Warriors broadcasters tonight on the broadcast accused
Dylan Brooks of intentionally swiping it.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Stuff's at Curry's right thumb.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
How would you respond to that?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
If that's the response, I wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
You gotta love you me, Doka?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Oh dude, I do. How would you? I wouldn't, Yeah,
any simple, I wouldn't. Listen, gamesmanship happens all the time.
If I happen to swipe at the ball and hate
your thumb that you're dribbling with, guess what. Oh well
you know. I mean it's part of and I don't
you know, I don't nobody wants anybody hurt. Good gracious,
(18:06):
I get it. But I can tell you this on
the injury report. If I come into a game and
I have a left shoulder problem, that that that I
missed a quarter from the week before, right, and it's
a final quarter, and they throughout the week you're preparing
for a quarterback. I'm just excuse me. I'm using me
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as an It doesn't matter if Tom Brady is we
know he's got a shoulder, he's been banged up, or
as Patrick Mahomes and the week before he missed the
fourth quarter because of a banged up shoulder, and you think, well,
is it dislocated? What's happened to MRI is negative? He's
got play next week. You find out during the week, Well,
let me ask you when you're when you're when when
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you got an edge rusher coming to get you? Are
you are you? Are you hitting him high or hitting
him low?
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Are you hitting him take his legs out?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Oh I'm not. If I know he's got a shoulder,
I'm I'm hitting him. Yeah, that's where I'm hit. I'm not.
It's not a cheap shot. He's got shoulder pads. I'm
going I'm gonna go a little higher. If it's a knee,
I'm not diving with my helmet at his knee. But
you know what if you're if you're running back with
a thigh bruise, I mean a deep, deep thigh contusion
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where it's like, man, that's one of those deep Charlie horses.
Can he take the punishment? They got it extra padded.
Or you think you're where you think you're attacking Dan,
I'm attacking right there. It's a it's blood in the
water and I'm the shark. I'm not going to hurt him.
But you know what, if you're playing and you've got
a broken thumb on a footprint on your throwing hand
and I and I'm coming in and I can get you,
I'm going up trying block and you're gonna hit your
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thumb on my helmet, well I'm taking see you see
what I'm saying. It's not purposeful, it's not trying to
hurt him. But damn, do you want to play the
backup quarterback? You want to play the starter. If you're
playing one of those great player, you want to play
the start. You prefer to play the backup, meaning the defense.
So I don't even know deep down listen if it's true.
And I love the Doka's response like I don't, okay,
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But my point is, if I know I'm playing you
in one on one, Dan and you are your your
right hamstrings or bother something, or that's not a good example.
It's easier put in football. But if whatever the injury is,
if I got a chance to legally make you think
about it, or maybe you can miss the series or
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two because I hit him hard in the thought, what
am I supposed to elude your thigh because you had
a deep Charlie horse And if I had to hit
you there and you're gonna miss two series, that's just
called sports man, that's called sports There's no different than
hey man, the guy can't hit a high fastball, So
where are you throwing it. You ain't throwing it low.
You're going to try to attack him up in his zone.
The guy's shoulders bothered. Well, you know what, you're having
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to get a good hit up top and a legal hit.
I'm not saying you attack it. And if you're playing
defense on Steph Curry and he's got a thumb injury,
you're still swiping at the ball. Correct, You're still trying.
It's not like I got it down and you grab
it and bend it. So in truth, well, who's got
a problem with it?
Speaker 7 (20:58):
What?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
What kind of pussification are we talking about? If he's
playing and he's got a sore thumb, and I can
exploit the fact that he can't use it like he
wants to, and I could swipe at the ball and
I accidentally caught it, but I'm playing defense the way
I normally do. Now, some people may take offense that well, Shawn,
that's what unwritten rule. There's no unwritten rule. Hell oh oh,
what about the unwritten rule that says what Draymond woods
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his unwritten rule about kicking you in the ball exactly
and your balls aren't even hurting, Okay, so save that. Yeah,
that's exactly right. And even if dre even if Dylan
Brooks was swiping at the ball, and if he happened
to catch thumb, oh well, okay, and not against Steph,
against him, I would expect it. I would expect it
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as a player, damn, and I have. I went into
a game we were playing Stanford my sophomore year. We
were in Stanford against Elway and I had a bye
week after the game previous. It was a national televised
game sy Alway versus sc SI. It was one of
those you know, and John and I had been, you know,
the comparison's coming out of high school, all that stuff.
It was all week long and John Robbinson, my head coach, said,
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you wanted him this week, didn't you. I'll never forget
when he said it. When the game was over the
last series walking over to me on the sideland I
had a full one of those an ac like a
sprain in my ankle, and it was a severe one,
so I had to wrap it underneath and then I
had to spat wrap it. Going into the game, if
they were tackling me, I expected that that's where they
were going to hit me. You know, we were playing
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great football, we were undefeated, I mean all those things.
I expected that, and it was having a you know,
and we ended up playing great and winning and played
the whole game and beat him in their building, and
we our defense did a great job against John. My
point is, of course, that's where they're attacking, not with
a helmet and twisting it at the bottom of a pile.
Hopefully that happens too, but it was. It's called the man.
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I'm looking for every advantage, and it's tough enough to
beat Steph Curry. So if you're playing your fair game,
as long as it's not cheap or dirty. So but
I liked the imag's response, So if he was and
trying a little game, I don't have problem with it.
It's not dirty play. But people make a bill, well
you can't do that, well, then sit his ass on
the bench. Yeah, don't bring him out here. To me,
I'm playing defense. It's not dirty or illegal. But I
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also know that Steph Curry that's hampered or not is
sitting on a bench is far better to our team
than if Steph Curry's hitting us for forty five. So
even if he may said, yeah, you know what he's
attacking playing defense, the weakness for Steph is maybe a
sore thumb. What's the big deal? What we're oh, this
is a sacred cow. We can't attack him like we would.
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Would they even be saying it if it was the
backup guard who got thirty minutes to play last night.
Let's just say the backup because Steph was tired and
they rested him and they're down thirty and the backup
guard comes in play thirty minutes. Would they have said
it if the sore thumb was on the backup guard,
absolutely not, okay. And let's say he was having a
monster night. He had twenty five in the first half.
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We wouldn't be saying. Steph Curry starred Dylan Brooks this series.
And that's real rich for the Golden State people to
complain about somebody going after something if it really did,
if it did happen, if they thought that, which it's ridiculous.
But if it did that, that team last night, that
team never has a bitch about going after somebody and
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being cheap about it when they're great. But they got
a guy on their team who's notorious for it. So
and Dylan Brooks has got gamesmanship. I love Dudokah's answer.
I think they're full of it when it comes to that.
But even if they did. As a player, if you're
Steph Curry, you should have expected it. That's my thing.
You should have expected whatever they can do. If you're
a quarterback and you got to saw a ribcage, guess
where I'm hitting you right in the ribs legally, but
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I'm taking my shots at your ribcage with my shoulder
pads on a legal hit because if I can get
you over there and I can play Harry Hatchett asses
the backup quarterback, I got a better chance to win.
And anybody in Golden State or anywhere else who can't
handle that, screw them. Okay, the hell with them, and
Udoka good point. The bottom line is they got an
ass whooping last night. So you're looking for any narrative
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you can if you're a broadcast team to make an
excuse for your team that got their ass handed to them. Period.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
Yeah, self awareness is a skill and apparently they don't
really have that skill. And look, Sean, I say it
all the time. It's another one of my favorite things.
I'm not in this world to do you any favors.
I'm the hunted one here. So that's the way the
Rockets approached to last night.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
When you got that kind of success. Dan, you know,
if you're Golden State, you should be that without above
it's one. But should you are the hunted, you're you're
the even though you're the seventh seed, you're Golden State.
Who's hunted in the NFL, Kansas City Philadelphia Eagles are
going to be That's that's that's what happens when you're
the when you're the lead dog and you're out there
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and you're the rabbit. In this case, the dogs are chasing.
You better expect every little thing I can to get
ahead of you to get a chance to win. And
if it means your hands on the basketball and I'm
swiping for it and I get your thumb, guess what
deal with it or get the step in. That's just
the way it works for sure. Called sports Manly.
Speaker 7 (26:00):
John and Billy. See you guys right there. We'll get
you guys involved in the conversation. You want to join them.
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety. What's
gonna se one three two one two five seven ninety.
Continue with The Shawn Salisbury Show. The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Let's start it off this morning with John on the
Northwest Side. Good morning, John, Good morning.
Speaker 10 (26:23):
Good Uh, Yeah, I wanted to talk about the Rockets game.
I you know, I was happy to see them doing
what I was wanting them do, and that is they
were taking it to.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
The rack a lot last night, a lot more.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
And I think that's the key.
Speaker 10 (26:37):
They got to keep taking take advantage of their what
I think is their superior athleticism and just drive that ball.
They're picking up, you know, they're picking up fouls and
unfortunately they were hitting their foul shots.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
And I think that's the formula.
Speaker 10 (26:50):
They got to just keep driving and not get involved
like in a you know, a tick for tack, you know,
just a shootout with Golden Steak, because that's their game.
But ours is using our our athleticism and taking it
to the rack.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I mean, if we can do that.
Speaker 10 (27:05):
I think we're really tough, and then you know, if
they do a defense to to try to stop that specifically,
then we can kick it out and you know, that's
where somebody out to dribble, like Jalen Green or somebody
could hopefully rise to the occasion.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
But I liked I liked what I saw last night.
Speaker 10 (27:21):
Where they were like really driving it, being aggressive, and
it just it seemed like it made it more aggressive
and picked up the pace and the whole bit. I
think that's their game and that's what they got to
stick to. I wanted to comment on that.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
Yeah, yeah, I appreciate the call, John. I mean, Sean,
I got to agree with John right there where I mean,
that was something that I thought was a It was
an intentional attack last night by the Rockets. So if
you've seen so many different times in this series settling
mid range jumpers, maybe taking a bad three, whatever it is,
but this was a team that not only cutting to
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the basket, but also I mean you saw Alprin shingun
bodying dudes, Amen Thompson doing this same thing, Tarry Eason
doing the same thing, crashing the glass. Even though in
the fourth quarter that kind of seemed to taper off
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, they got a couple extra looks in the second,
you know, down the stretch in the fourth quarter some
effort plays by Golden State that a little chippy. Obviously
at the end, I can tell you this what what's
the weakness we said going into this, Shengoon's advantage and
inside right, that is, well, if it's his advantage, then
the weakness of the Golden State Warriors is what being
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defending the rim, right, So it only makes sense that
now you want to get in. If both teams are
shooting well, then it's fine. But if you're not shooting
well from you know, jump shot, either mid range or
long range jump shots? Whose advantage is that? In this series?
Normally any team with Steph Curry on it, right, Yeah,
that's so, I mean it's usually I know, they're more
a deeper team, meaning the Rockets aren't talented and young
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all that. But you start to think you started to
get in a long range shooting contest. Guess who the
best on the world is it doing that and has
been for the on their teeth right, So, but attacking
on the defensive end, now it's calculated risk because when
you do that and get to the free throw line,
which they did thirty eight times. Guess what happened. You
better knock them down. So the plan was masterful last
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night in your building. Take it to them, get to
the free throw line, let's concentrate, knock this thing out,
and go knock down thirty two to thirty eight free
throws and we'll go back to Golden State for Game six.
So they played into their strength last night. Attack the rim,
make sure that the weakness that you're attacking, you go
get it. And then now it's the opportunity of stand
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at the free throw line and knock them down, which
they did. So yeah, John's right, you're one hundred percent
correct and noticing it in the game. You don't have
to settle. We are in such in a league that
right now, heck, a guy could have a dunk and
you'd be up by one. You'd kick it out, so
somebody can try to knock down a three to go
up by two. You know what I'm saying. We got
did this full lobby. Obviously a bit hyperbolic, but you
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know what I'm talking about. That's the league we're in.
Last night, early in that game, to get a lead
and go at. It didn't appear to you like this
was old school basketball. Attack the rim. See if you
can get somebody in some trouble, get to the free
throw line, make your free throws, and defend on the
other end. And they did, and so it worked. Now
you know, you'll it's a different challenge and a different building.
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They're going to come out with all kinds of energy
because I can assure you this, they don't want Game seven.
They do not want Game seven, so meaning the Golden
State Warriors obviously coming back to that building. So yeah,
I thought I thought that not only did he may
put the right plan in and he's done it a
lot this year, but they executed it and that's the
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whole key. And you had a veteran playing at his
best at guard last night knocking down free throws. I
don't even I'm not sure Fred missed a free throw
last night. But attacking, knocking down shots and facilitating exactly
what they needed. They look like a different team, a
free flowing, relaxed team, but an aggressive one, and an
aggressive one at the rim where you didn't feel like
you had to get into it. And that's what happens
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when you got to chase Dan. When you when you're
playing from behind and in a sire's not in this
to be at any time, like in anything, what do
you do when you're playing from behind? The pressure to
be desperate to Oh, we got it, we got to
knock down these We have to shoot threes because we're
down twelve. It kind of like Golden State, right, you know,
He's like, how am I going to get back into this? Well,
let's we got We got to knock there, R three
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for there too, so we can We're gaining possessions and
points each time up and down the floor. The Rockets
weren't willing to let that happen last night, which was
a good thing. Sometimes you can win that way. You
can knock down long range shots, but you get better
looks when you're able to attack the rim, get them
to collapse, and then, as John said, you can kick
and do your thing or catch and shoot whatever it is.
And that looked like a two seed last night for
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the majority of the game. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
Fred Dillon and also Jabari Smith Junior all perfect from
the free throw line last night.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
And you mentioned it.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
The Rockets thirty two of thirty eight eighty four percent
we we like that version.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
A lot of games, buddy, That'll been a lot of games.
What of the difference? Didn't Golden State? I mean got
gold State out rebound in them last night and a
lot of that. You don't getting second chance points late,
but they did. If I'm not mistaken, I think digits right.
So with that and the Rockets Game four beat them
on the glass. So while rebounding in second chance points
and defensive rebounds are important, it came down to what's
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more important. Free looks at the free throw line. They
knocked in. They're knocking down a ton of them at
the free throw line in game five. And now you
come to our game four, Game five, you come and
take care of your business. The free throwing what a
seventh grade novel concept, right, make your free throws? Didn't
your coach tell you that when you were first Put
a basketball in your hand. Hey, hey, practice this at home.
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Put your left hand behind your right hand, behind your back,
and dribble with your left hand and keep your head up.
There's number one.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Two.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
We're in a position where the triple threat position where
you can dribble, pass, or shoot. On defense, it's ball
me you seeing bowl and by the way, free throw.
We've been hearing that since we the first time somebody
put a round ball in our hands, putting the ball
on the floor. Do this, make sure you don't give
up your dribble, hey, knock down free throws. Last night
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was seventh grade Swickly, Pennsylvania. Execute it. See, people don't
even know there's Swickly, Pennsylvania or Candido, California Opera. That
was Chuck Knox's. That was Chuck Knox's go to He's
from Pennsylvania. Chuck's like, hey, we're playing pro football here.
This isn't sixth grade Swickly, Pennsylvania junior high ball, you know.
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And so I've always used my whole life like sweet,
hey man, you remember back in Swickly. I ain't even
been to Swickly, but Chuck has so existed. That's exactly
what you do now. See we're teaching here too. But
the old listen, dad, play defense and shoot free throws
and get to the backboards and you know, jump out
and for all the things that we've been told to
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do for forty years is exactly I mean, you know,
since I was a kid. They they actually did last
night last night looked like fundamentally good sound basketball and
attack the Warriors at their weakness and give us our strengths.
And I thought the Houston Rockets did a really good
job of that, and then they were able to, you know,
stave off a somewhat late rally, if that's what you
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want to call it.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
By Golden State, no doubt about it, says the Rocket's
able to stay alive and force a game six tomorrow
night there in the Bay Area, Billy Chris See, you guys,
you want to join them there?
Speaker 5 (34:27):
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are talking there.
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Speaker 3 (36:34):
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Speaker 2 (36:40):
Back to Sean Salisbury. Good morning, Billy.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Hey, good morning guys. Sean.
Speaker 11 (36:49):
Just to make one more point about attacking a weakness.
If I'm pitching and you foul the ball off your foot,
guess what I'm coming down and in just to see
if you're willing to file another.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
One off that foot. Amen. Amen, you know if.
Speaker 11 (37:00):
I happened to hit that foot and you're on base,
guess what I'm gonna try?
Speaker 5 (37:03):
To pick you off to.
Speaker 11 (37:04):
Make you use that foot. So just a comment and
a question about Jalen Green.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I am.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
I'm a big fan.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
I am.
Speaker 11 (37:16):
I think the kid's got a great, huge ceiling. I
think the first two years of his career was wasted
with a that's not fair average coach. I don't think
he got the development that he needed in those first
two years, and Udok has really brought.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Him a long ways.
Speaker 11 (37:28):
But my concern is is he a regular season MVP
and a playoff dud.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
We saw that a little bit with Kyle Tucker.
Speaker 11 (37:38):
I think that's one of the things that might have
soured the Astros a little bit on sign and of
course the money was but on Tucker a little bit.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
But you need those guys.
Speaker 11 (37:47):
You have to have great players in the regular season
to get to the postseason, and then you have to
have people.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
That set up in the postseason.
Speaker 11 (37:54):
And if Jalen's not that guy, is it time to
move on now or do you wait a year to see?
And the question that I have is would you rather
have a regular season MVP and a playoff dud or
a regular season good to average or average to good
player and a guy that really steps up in the
postseason and I'll hang out listen. Thanks guys, great show.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
As always.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I appreciate Billy, Billy, thanks my man, And you're so
right on attack and dude fouling off your front foot,
there's no doubt I'm going after it again, I would
think from my vantage point, I'm just trying to put
myself Billy into your question, which is really really good.
I'm always taking the Robert or a playoff guy. I
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just am because think about Harden his whole career, MVP score,
get his shot whenever he wants it, can shoot from
the parking lot and beat you. What do we always
say parnished because he's not gonna wear a ring and
he did not play well the majority of time. Me
he played good games, but we hold the postseason against him, right,
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We just do, and in basketball even more so than
some because you know, we'll hit quarterbacks with we We
don't hit the right guard on a football team that
never won a Super Bowl, but we do hit the
quarterback Dan Marino or they were like, oh, man never
won a championship, but we almost say, but he deserved one.
It's almost a we feel sorry for Karl Malone or
we feel sorry for you know what I'm saying. I'm
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talking about that you get my Dan. We do with Marino.
Speaker 8 (39:29):
We have.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Steve Largent, my teammates like man Steve. We say a guy,
well he deserved one. Well, you only deserve one if
you win one, right, you only deserve one if you
win one. So but I do I feel bad for Dan.
And when he tells the stories about it, it's like Dan,
it makes you feel I mean, it's like and he
wasn't making excuses. So it's just But in basketball, because
the impact of one guy, we we don't feel sorry
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for him. We put it on them. It's on you. You
were the star. You should have taken it to another level.
So while we love and appreciate the MVP James Hard
maybe not love but appreciate his skill set, he's hampered
by the fact that it's like, well, you had the
ball in your hand, you're the ball dominant guy, and
you don't have a championship that will always follow him.
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It just will even more so than the guy that
you felt sorry for, just because basketball's got five guys
got the ball in hand stark and control games more
than any sport. And so I want the Jalen Green.
Now I wanted to you said, if you just said
bad in the regular season, I just said, well, I
don't know about that, because we may not get to
the playoffs. If your best scorer is a bad play
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but average good player, give me that guy that shines
in the postseason as opposed to the practice field regular
season all American who completely disappears in the postseason. I
want the guy we don't Robert Orri's regular season Robert
Orry was a good player, always a good player. Well,
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we describe big Shot Bob by his postseason shooting, his
ability to knock down shots and be clutch, and that's
that that's who he is. And the opposite is true
for the hard so and I think real quick, and
I know we want to get we got to get
one caller in real quick. Here, I will say this
to you, Dan and ability I. The other side is true.
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If that team is decided, that may take another year.
But if they have decided that this is who he is.
If this is who Jalen Green is and we don't
know it like Udoka and that that organization does, if
this is who he is, you have to open your
eyes and ear you have to take calls if this
is gonna be if this is his post, if this
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is what we're looking at over the course of a career.
Now you better be true, because he could go somewhere
and dominate the post. You better be sure. But if
you if you feel like there's no guarantee, but if
you feel like you're sure that that he's a more
regular season guy, that he's not built maybe the postseason
the way that some guys are, then you have absolutely
have to consider a different place for him. If that's
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how you feel. I don't know if that's how they feel.
So give me the clutch guy in the postseason who's
good in the regular season as opposed to, uh, really
really awful of the postseason but great in the regular season. Nah,
I want the guy when the rings on the line.
You give me that guy. I'll take him.
Speaker 7 (42:17):
Robert Rory pretty much the Jim laretz of the NBA.
You could say, yep, no doubt, because that was what
Larets did every single postseason, and the Astros found that out.
Unfortunately in ninety eight, Chris has promised, I'll get you
into the conversation here as we turn it over to
the seven o'clock hour here on the Seawan Salisbury Show.
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Speaker 7 (43:18):
Astros off today before they start up a weekend road
series with the White Sox.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
They lose yesterday.
Speaker 7 (43:24):
Seven to four, but we've been focusing mostly on the
Rockets here in the early going of the show, as
they are able to show up and show out last
night and able to continue their season at least for
one more day again. SEB one three two one two
five seven ninety. Chris, appreciate your patience, man, Good morning,
how you doing.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Good morning?
Speaker 8 (43:46):
Fellas being at the game last night, that's more of
the Rockets type of ball. I don't know why he
took them until backs against the Wall and then elimination
came to figure out. You're the much more athletic, younger team.
Why are you playing into the Warriors' hands. You're not
going to beat them in that type of shootout game
that they play, and they got the greatest shooter of
all time. They have the championship DNA of the last
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decade plus of winning many titles. They're Vetter related. You
know what they're going to do, especially in tight games
when you got playoff Jimmy on their side and obviously
the Goat and Curry, you're not going to beat them.
So if the Rockets lose this series, they got.
Speaker 12 (44:20):
To kick themselves. These guys.
Speaker 8 (44:21):
Honestly, they should have won both games on the road,
game Game three and Game four. Laten situation, Dylan Brooks,
you're a veteran. You can't foul Jimmy Butler on the
final play there. So as far as last night goes,
I love what they saw you use an athletic ability.
The Wars can't run with you, guys, so they wanted
to play that type of where they want to lure
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you into that shootout game. And luckily the Rockets control
the temple. Be physical with them because you're a better
defensive team as well. And Amen Thompson, I love when
he's flying all around the court. You guys were just
talking about Jalen Green to me, from what I've seen,
I think if he would accept his role like a
Derek White type. To me, Thompson and saying Gun are
the focal point of this Rockets team. If jam Green
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is in that defined role, like I said with Boston,
he could still be important your You're reason why they
win and you can still get your numbers. But I
just don't think he should be that guy. I think
U Delka's got to pound that into his head, saying
Gun and Thompson are the keys to our team, and
everybody else plays their roles around those two guys. Guys,
So I'm hoping if they could use this formult of guys,
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which is gonna be very tough because we know how
hard it is to win a close win and an
elimination game back, especially against the Warriors who have won
so many titles. I'm hoping they can use it. They've
shown they can, they just didn't make the plays at
the end to pull out the games. But if they can't, guys,
I feel good about Game seven back in TC. I
think the Rockets win it. So it's gonna be tough, guys,
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I hope they can pull it up. Man Friday Nay
is gonna be an incredibly tough task. We know the
Curry is gonna be locked in playoff, Jinny. If our
guys can play their roles and play them to their
best abilities, I think they can pull it out and
hopefully we'll be talking about a game seven back of
Sunday afternoon in PC because I think they win it.
So shout out to the fellas. Get it done then,
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and let's get it back to a game seven. Thanks
for what time, fellas.
Speaker 7 (46:10):
Hey, I appreciate it, Chris. I mean, you know, and
that's one thing too, Sean. You know the point that
Chris brings up that so many times watching this team
this year, that's it just almost kind of feels like
they feel pressured, they feel cornered, and let's just go
ahead and just throw up a three. Like no offensive sets,
no real organization. It's just kind of like panic shooting,
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and it's just like, that's not your team. You're not
going to shoot fifty five percent tomorrow night. You're you're
not going to like you cannot count on what you
had last night to be translated to tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
And why do we I mean, across the league? Maybe
it's just because of the way the NBA is now,
and we're happy here that it happened. But you know
when you say that, oh, that's old school basketball, you
can't do that now. You know, you'll hear people like
that did and weren't around when you could actually attack
the rim and bang and get after it and not
settle for mid range or long range jumpers. It's it's
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weird to me. I sometimes just playing basketball the way
it usually was meant to be played, when you got
a chance to get to the rim, get to the
rim if you got an easy three, but you don't
need to settle. I mean just all the little you know,
the things that go into you know, basketball, We've got
so caught up and I don't know if we call
it the social if it's a social media media era,
whatever it is, that it's okay to dominate somebody. Well,
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we got to shoot more threes, do you do you?
We got it? Yeah, when you shoot and we got
to knock them down. And there's nothing wrong with it.
I get it. But it's okay to win the old
fashioned way, man, It just is, And I quite frankly
think the teams need more of it. Well, why would
you when you inside a three, why not step back? Well,
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the metrics say, well, sometimes that little piece of paper
in your hands full of crap. Okay, And there's also
the side show that goes with taking somebody the rim.
It's like a football team. Let me this is the
best way I can compare this. When you play a
finesse team that throws for five hundred yards but gets
their ass kicked physically, they don't win regular old school
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Big twelve football, think about that. Mahomes couldn't win in college.
They weren't very good. They put up seven hundred yards offense.
He goes to the pros, they change. We knew he's
a great player. Talking about the over. I'm just not
even putting this on Mahomes, just that Big twelve score
forty five and give up fifty. My USC team with
Caleb Williams. Finesse teams don't move anybody's need. They look good.
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It's fun, it's cosmetic. There's no substance there. I'm just
telling you there's not. And playing on teams when we
play finesse and get our ass, kids, you walked out
the field embarrassed. Embarrassed. Yeah, but we threw for five
hundred yeah, but you know what that's like the boxer
who can't get in there and take body blows, but
swing flails away and knocks a guy out, and we're like, oh,
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look out, great is then the next fifteen fights he
gets his ass handed to him because he doesn't know
how to be physical. And that's to me, attacking the
rim is that physical nature. Finesse teams don't win championships.
They just don't in any sport. So it is it's
that finesse team looks real pretty old school big twelve football. Man,
it was awesome. Two guys through for six hundred yards,
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but they don't have anything to show for it at
the end of the year. So in basketball too, man, Bud,
you see how good they are three point shooting? Yeah, man,
awesome long range jumper. How to turn out? Well, they
lost by twelve. Well what happened? Well, they didn't get
to the offensive glass. They shoot free those. But man,
they left too many on the table because they didn't
attack the rim, or didn't get in there and mix
it up and get you know, some putbacks and some
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easy ones. Right, So it is we seemed that all
the optics, the pleasure for the eyes is that long range. Man,
it's cool, but that's not how basketball was set up.
It's just not. Now it's an add to the game,
and it's an addendum to you know, an addendum to
the contract of Okay, we've added this stuff, this long range,
perimeter metrics, shoot more threes and you'll have a chance, right,
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I see it. But you know what, sometimes it just
doesn't work. I know this that the team's Philadelphia was
more physical than Kansas City. They did the finesse things
went necessary, but they beat them into the ground physically,
and last night the physical nature of attacking the rim
and not settling was different. And it's okay to do that.
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Sometimes you got to be a finesse team to get
back into it. But I'm just telling you, you got
to be at a shoot. But I'm constantly wonder why,
Oh well, if it worked and it can't work, if
it worked in nineteen ninety seven and it can't work now,
well it sure can. Yeah. So for me, it looked
they were not a big twelve team last night. I'm
talking about old school big twelve football where you look
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good and score fifty but the other team scores fifty five.
Last night, This looked like, you know what, we're going
to beat you the old fashioned way, and then we'll
when we got the big playability, we'll knockdown threes. And
that was to me. It just looked different last night
optics wise, and the result showed that it was a
different basketball team last night.
Speaker 7 (51:08):
Well, I mean it's it's almost kind of like the
early twenty tens Alabama. You know, where the offense it
wasn't sexy. They would run the football when they needed to.
It was one of those Hey, you got third and
two right here to be able to win the game. Well,
you know what we're going to do. We're gonna run
it on you. Maybe every once in a while, hit
you with a play action. You know, you got a
Marii Cooper down the field. See you know you'll have
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Aj mcchaeron hit that like. That's that brand of football
doesn't necessarily it's not played as much anymore, but at
least you knew that one way or another.
Speaker 5 (51:40):
We're kind of like a bow constrictor we'll get.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
You the aberration. Dan Is Joe Burrows LSU teams offensively.
You score eight million points, You've got the best quarterback
in the country, but don't be misled. While they threw
it all over, they ran it, not the old school
left miles of play defense. You know three you know,
run it three times and win nine to six. Okay,
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I get it. And that's that's when it all comes together.
We got these great receivers, we got this quarterback, our
defense plays well, and oh, by the way, our quarterback
the ball didn't hit the ground. But you know what
was tough about that team too, They protected the passer.
Joe played upright. There's a physicalities that you are not
getting anywhere near him. She's made their run game better
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and an epic offense. So that's the outlier when you
have everything work and it's like, okay, those teams go
win championships and that's what they did. So, but give
me physical over finesse all the time. And then when
the big play wide open deep balls there on football,
you got to make the throw. Those are the ones
you got to make last night, when the three gives
you an open look and you kick it back out,
you got to knock it down. And when you're staying
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with the free throw and you got to make them.
And they did that part of it. But there was
a different sense of physicality. Hey, when the Warriors were winning,
when they won championships, well, we know that the three
point shooting and long range stuff they got after it,
Draymond Green added a physical nature to him that it's
what works. Meant when when Milwaukee beat the Suns, physical
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Giannis attacked the rim for for the rest of the
series and they took over. It happens all the time,
and it's okay to play a little eighties basketball mixed
in with twenty twenty five basketball, and when you're that
talented and athletic. They showed him something that well that
quite frankly, Golden State needed to see last night to say,
oh a little bit of humble pie. And now Golden
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State's KG and all that stuff, and they're going to
have their chance in Game six. But this was a
Rockets team that's the second seed last night. That's what
it looked like.
Speaker 7 (53:39):
Yeah, definitely, And I mean, you know, it's the part
of this team that we knew they do have. It's
the offensive end that at times we've wondered, hey, did
they have that last night?
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Did you think about this? Dan real quick?
Speaker 5 (53:50):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (53:51):
Going into if I had told you that your your
calling card this year is going to be your ability,
young and energetic. Obviously, the culture of the coach and
how it's going to change is going to be stops
and defense. When's the last time you heard that about
Rockets team? When Elijah Wan.
Speaker 5 (54:07):
Was here, I was gonna say, yeah, I gotta go
back to the mid nineties problem.
Speaker 1 (54:10):
Right right right there? You go with a guy who
is the best feet and one of the as far
as the two way player on the offensive defensive end.
It doesn't get much better than that dude and athletic
to boot, So same thing. I mean, that's about the
last time, and I'm sure there were teams in between,
but you get my point where it's like, oh, that's
the calling card. If I'd have told you at the
beginning of the year that they were going to the
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defense was going to be a calling card for them,
you look at me and said, well, place are they
going to? Guye In, Well, damn, you just said, oh, man,
play defense. That's who they are. Now, That's not who
they've been. They weren't like it. You couldn't get them
to play some defense at times. Then. I mean, in
the past, this team's this team is going to have
a chance if they do it they did last night.
Continue to defend and hit open shots and make free
(54:55):
throws and attack the rim when it's there. You don't
have to settle. You're not Golden State. They'll beat you
long range that you can at times, but that's how
they They've lived with Steph Curry. It said that you
don't want that matchup. You want to go and body
blow them and then knock down those shots when they're
their long range, and that's what they did last night.
It was a different team last night.
Speaker 7 (55:15):
Hopefully a formula has been unlocked, and we also know
that Steve Kerr is good at making adjustments, so hopefully
the Rockets can be proactive on that as opposed to reactive,
because the reaction has not necessarily been great in this series.
So we'll see if that translates over to Game six.
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Speaker 7 (58:15):
Indeed it is the steakouts is upon us. But the
Rockets able to forest Game six last night, one thirty one, one,
sixteen winners over at Toyta Center against the Warriors Astros
off Today they lose to the Tigers yesterday seven four
take two out of three. They get the White Sox
next in Chicago. Sean, are you much of a convention guy? Like,
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have you ever been to a convention that you weren't
signing at? You weren't a part of it, that you
just went because they were like hmm, that sounds interesting,
I want to go half.
Speaker 1 (58:45):
Yeah, I mean like, I mean that you're not a
part of whether you know, if you're considering like gun
conventions or you know, the stuff that you're looking to
buy or so, oh yeah, I've been to them where
I'm not out of you know, owning a company where
they're coming to visit your I've been a bolt sure
where I've been there as a as a vendor and
been there as a customer. Absolutely fair enough.
Speaker 7 (59:07):
So, Like there's the National Baseball Card Convention every single
year that a buddy of mine goes to and he's
a hell of a collector. Like I remembered once he
was being interviewed about his collection and he reaches into
his bag and starts pulling out Mickey Mantles and Willie
May's and all of these. I was like, wow, Like,
you're that type of collector. So there are many of
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them out there. As I mentioned, could I interest you
in Paison con Possible?
Speaker 1 (59:34):
Is Italian? The convention is it? Do you dressed like
an Italian or a mafia person? Or food? Which one
would it be?
Speaker 7 (59:42):
I'm glad you asked, because it's all the aboves. So
this is going to be a three day event happening
in New Jersey, and the post comes from hardcore Italians
on Instagram. From May ninth to the eleventh, fans of
Italian American culture are gathering for a weekend packed with music, film,
and conversations featuring cast members from The Sopranos, Goodfellas, The
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Godfather and more. It's gonna be in Rutherford, New Jersey.
The event includes three days of live entertainment, panels, legendary guests,
the best food, and the film festival that captures what
it means to be a pieson whether you're Italian or
you just love the culture. Everyone's welcome, show up, connect
and be a part of something special.
Speaker 5 (01:00:23):
With the Italian flag.
Speaker 7 (01:00:24):
Emoji at the end of the post, what do you think, Oh,
I'd be in Absolutely, I mean such short notice. Probably
not because what we're a week and a half away
from this, but you know you plan for if they
do this again next year, then yeah, absolutely. I even
though I am not a pison myself, at least I
don't believe I am. But even though I don't know
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that I'm a pison, I still feel like I connect
with the pisons out there the gumbox.
Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Yeah, I'll be honest with you, Dan, I'm and you
and I have talked about this, I think during break.
I don't know if we've talked about on air. We've
talked before. I'm one of those guys as I've read
every maybe we haven't. Maybe I've loosed my mind. I've
talked about with somebody else, but I for years I have.
I've read as many books as possible on the mafia
and the mob a major intrigue with it, majorly from
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John Gotti, you know, the major intrigue to the point
the very first visit I ever made to New York
City in my life, And I was like, was I
Hell I might have been out of college, it might
have been, you know, early in my career. Hell I
might have been when I was in my thirties, late
maybe late twenties maybe, But I made my first visit. Well,
I'm thinking, did I ever? I'm talking about when I
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flew there. I mean I played there as a player,
But when I flew there just to visit? Does that
make sense? Or I wasn't playing in a game to
go in and get out? My first visit had to be.
It wasn't when I was a teenager a kid. So
I was so intrigued with the mob. The very first
thing I did when I my first visit as an
adult to New York City, I put my bags in
(01:01:59):
my hotel room in Time Square and I had a
cab take me to Spark Steakhouse.
Speaker 5 (01:02:03):
Paul Coustelano.
Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
That's exactly right, That's honestly got truth. This is not hyperbolic.
I literally ran upstairs, dropped it off, and it was
probably three or four in the afternoon, right, So I
was gonna go there, and then I was gonna sit
in and have a beer and get a steak at
at Spark Steakhouse. And that's exactly what I did. Put
my put my bags away, immediately washed my face, brush,
(01:02:25):
my teeth, got back in the vehicle and went down
and took a cab to Spark Steakhouse and literally had
them park. I walked up. I stood. You know, you've
seen all the pictures where Paul Casselana was shot on
the on the on the when he when and supposedly
got he was in the car watching down the street,
you know, all the stuff you hear. And I stood
right there at the entryway and I went through like okay,
(01:02:47):
this really did this guy got shot here? So I
was and I know it sounds so weird, but it was.
I was into it. And then I went in and
sat there and I looked around like this is I mean,
how many mob bosses walked it walked in here? Now
my whole thought, And it was awesome. But that's the
very all the things to do in New York. My
first my first thing after putting my bags down were
to get the Spark Steakhouse. And I stood outside and
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kind of from different angles like okay, where would where
do they shoot? How did they pull this all? I mean,
and I went to this day. I remember, there's a
lot of things I don't remember about New York. I
know exactly why and where and what I did my
first visit there.
Speaker 7 (01:03:25):
Yeah, a good buddy of mine actually re enacted where
Costellano was whacked and you know, laid down on the
pavement right there. And of course, you know in New
York you can always tell the tourists from the New
Yorkers because the New Yorkers just either their heads down
or they're just staring straight.
Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Ahead, keep a million times.
Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
Yeah right, yeah, absolutely, you know, as opposed to I
was that tourist. That's it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Hey, But I had read so many books on the
mob and my intrigue with John Gottie and and I'm
setting her thinking, Okay, was Gody sitting in the back seat.
Did he kind of turn you know how when you
sit in the back seat and you look through that
little back window and those limos. Did he look there
and just like okay, you know, and now that he
was going to be obviously elevated to the to the
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to the you know, the boss of one of the
of the of the Gambino family that's exactly right. So
I was, it was I was, and it was weird.
It was like they I was like, not nervous, but
it was here. I have a grown adult life standing
there thinking. But it was all the books from past
mob to current to and in the history of the Mob,
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not only from where it came from, but like through
Chicago Mob and Vegas Mob and New York City and
and it was. I loved it, man, but I could
not wait. I literally was pumped. I didn't I don't
eve remember what I was there for. It might have
been covering something for ESPN, or I might have been
in the summertime was going. And that was my first
visit to Yankee Stadium as well. I got on the
subway and I went to Yankee Stadium as well, Old
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Yankee Stadium. So it was one of those men, if
you're going to go by yourself, I did and I
was alone, and I thought, this is pretty cool. But
so yes, I'm with you, just to see if there
was like deep history and it was fun and cool
and people were dressed up like old school. I'm not
a comic con guy. I mean, I like, I'm intrigued
with it. I'm not gonna dress up like Darth Vader
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at one of these. But going to those and seeing
that one, that to me, hits deep because that's like
real life. You know. I don't think Darth Vader's jumping
from you know, coming down and Harrison Ford and somebody's
gonna you know, Yoda and all that stuff. We're gonna come.
But that was real John Gotti and Paul Castellano getting
shot on the side of the street in front of
a steakhouse. So yeah, I would go with more preparation,
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and if it fits schedule, I think it'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (01:05:35):
No, I mean, I'm a huge mob movie guy. I
still watch The Sopranos at times.
Speaker 7 (01:05:40):
I mean, even though I've seen every single episode, it's
it's still required viewing for me. And you know, just
one rule though that I take us to break with here,
sean A. Don doesn't wear shorts. That's one thing that
we have.
Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
I ever seen one wear shorts.
Speaker 5 (01:05:55):
That's that's just it. That's just it. Tony Soprano did.
Speaker 7 (01:05:58):
But then you know, Carli and luper T let him know, Hey,
you know I heard you had a cookout at your house.
Just so you know what, Don doesn't wear shorts.
Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Yeah, it's true. I mean, and normally now that obviously different.
But really, when you see old school mob movies or
documentaries pants, when's the last time you saw Paulie Walnuts.
He's not the Don, but Paully Walnuts in any part
of the mob, they don't wear shirt. They wear the
like you may get a bowling shirt out of him,
you know, the old school shirt I'm talking about. Then
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the suits, and you know, because they all run a
dry cleaning business, but it's all legit, of course, of course, yeah,
you dry cleaning, then go, but in the back room
you might get whacked if you were the dumb one.
But jobs, that's exactly right. So I it's a good point.
I can't remember the last time I saw the high
ranking mobster underboss in a pair of shorts. It can
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be one hundred and five in New York City and
in the in their heyday, and I don't ever remember
seeing him in a pair of shorts. That's a good point.
And the Don never I John Gotti, did he ever
put on a pair of shorts?
Speaker 5 (01:06:59):
And it's I have to google and see.
Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (01:07:01):
I don't believe he did.
Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
He even if he got him dry cleaned and his
dry cleaner, because you know it was all legit.
Speaker 5 (01:07:06):
D oh yeah that right, yeah, exactly, absolutely absolutely right.
Speaker 7 (01:07:10):
Look, we're just running a card game here, you know, Officer.
Speaker 5 (01:07:13):
That's all we're doing right now. That's that's all it is.
Speaker 7 (01:07:17):
So yes, Pizon Con coming up May ninth through the eleventh,
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Speaker 5 (01:07:24):
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Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Yeah we do. Hey, Triple Ey, when we come back,
could you could we double down on kiss and maybe
give me Beth?
Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
And just I mean it's slow, but every guy that's
like forty years or older or maybe fifty, you'll say, yeah,
I remember her. This was the song this and we
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Stairway to Heaven the long version, because you got because
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for like fifteen minutes. Yeah, those those were the cuts.
But yeah, Beth will take you back into your old
school fields, from the high school dance Dan, when you're part,
when you had with me, when you had long feathered hair,
part of down the Middle Man. I was a dude
hockey hockey h mullet. Are you kidding me? Who pulls
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more me? Or Ron Dugay? That was the question back.
Speaker 5 (01:09:50):
I'm going to go with you because I have no
idea who Ron Dugay is.
Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Former Carol All remember the supermodel counting Yeah, I believe
that with do Gay and her were married at one
Ron was the flowing locks hockey player for the Rangers.
The hockey they always get yeah yeah, and you know
before they had to wear helmets, you know, they would
run skate around without helmets on and play hockey with
nothing covering their head. So do Gate Do Gay was
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one of those guys, And uh, I'm pretty sure. And
at first I thought it was Ron Greschner. You remember
that name. You probably don't, don't see I'm a hockey guy.
Grescher and do Gay. They might have even played on
the same team at one point. But I'm pretty sure
it was Ron do Gay. If not, it was Gresher
But I think do Gay. But do Gay is the
long flowing locks, uh, you know, with the hair, with
the wavy hair, the typical hockey mullet that he had
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back in like the seventies and eighties. But if I'm
not mistaken, he was you can hit the Google machine.
But he was married and or dated Carol Alt, one
of the two, the supermodel.
Speaker 5 (01:10:47):
If you're pulling Carol Alt, you're doing things right.
Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (01:10:51):
Good for them, go brother, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 7 (01:10:53):
Yes, we've been talking about the Rockets able to force
a game six last night, one thirty one, one sixteen
win over the Warriors. That's coming up tomorrow. Astros are
off today. They get the White Sox in Chicago tomorrow
for a weekend series. But Sean, we can talk about
it a little bit right here and then obviously continue
the conversation.
Speaker 5 (01:11:14):
But two for his last sixteen.
Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
You know I made a mistake, Dan, What's it wasn't
Carol alt I'm am I right to say it was Kim.
It's it's a Kim Alexis, the other supermodel. Right. It
wasn't carolalt Oh actually might have been married to Ron Greschner.
Maybe I'm wrong, but it wasn't Carol alt It was
Kim Alexis, who's a famous supermodel too. She was the one.
If it just hit me, I'll have to google, but
I'm pretty sure it was Kim Alexis. Not not that
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it matters, you know, but who's KU's keeping count youth
wealthy useless knowledge. I think it was Kim Alexis that
was married to Ron Dugay, the hockey player.
Speaker 5 (01:11:48):
It was it was Greschner. Greschner was the one with Carol.
Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
All right, there you are you.
Speaker 5 (01:11:52):
Were correct about that.
Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Greschner with Carol Alton. He was a hockey guy too.
And then do Gay was married for I don't know,
they had to be married for maybe fourteen to fifteen years,
if I'm not mistaken, to like eighties to nineties somewhere
in that range or the nineties to the mid two thousand,
like twenty fifteen, Kim Alexis. I'm pretty sure. So if
somebody sees that, tell me if I'm right. Alroung, but
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I think Dougay was married to Kim Alexis and Reschner
was Carol Allt. That's right.
Speaker 7 (01:12:19):
Yeah, it's like the hockey guys, like I said, I mean,
you know they yeah, they do. And you know it's
kind of like another one too, of we've had this
conversation before, Hey, how did he make that happen? Is
the ultimate to me is Christie Brinkley with Billy Joel,
because as much as we love the piano man, he's
not an attractive man.
Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
It was over a skis, there's absolutely no question. But
hockey guys in NASCAR, you know race car drivers.
Speaker 7 (01:12:42):
Well it's the intrigue, it's the danger, that's that's what
it is, living on the edge exactly. Yeah, I mean
you know, look, you know baseball guys, they do well
for themselves. You know football guys, I mean, of course,
you know, now football is popular and there's again the
you know, intrigue and the danger that comes along with it.
But it seems like pound for pound, although actually no,
(01:13:03):
I'm gonna go back on that. The least physical of
all of them that seemingly does well is golf.
Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Oh yeah, and well it is, I mean physical, the
wear and tear in soccer too. If you're like if
you're a stud on the in soccer, like I'm talking
about the cream of the crop. European your your, your, your,
your your, you know, Manchester United, see you're a you're
(01:13:30):
that guy they pull to dude, they make no mistaken
But but overall, from top to Bobby right, not just
the stars, there is no doubt you you hit it.
You said, let's see we got Nascar, we got uh
we Also you'll tell country singers, yeah, country singers, but
all but all entertainers. But like you mentioned with Billy Joel,
but you hit it golf for whatever reason. And it's
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not exactly like you're living on the edge.
Speaker 12 (01:13:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
It's competitive tough, but it isn't like you're it's the lifestyle. Yeah,
we can't even talk four fair ways over on a
golf course when it when a pros got it. So
it's a little stuffy at times on a sport that
you know, I'm obsessed with anyway. But yeah, they're living
on the edge like a race car driver. That's exactly right.
And and hockey tough guy. You know, you're get in
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a fight and then come home when you're bloodied and
your your your supermodels waiting on you. Oh yeah, that
living on the edge thing, that that bad boy stuff.
They they like that. Well, they want they want the
bad boy. There you go. They want to make sure
that honey, can we cook together? You know, you gotta
have both that. If you got one, they want the other.
If you got the other, they want the prior. So
if you got both, well then you're you're probably rond gay. Okay,
(01:14:38):
there you go.
Speaker 5 (01:14:39):
Man. Not bad, not bad at all.
Speaker 7 (01:14:41):
I would say the everyday life guy connection that can
apply to this cops and firefighters.
Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Again, Yeah, it's the danger uniform, brother uniform that yes.
Speaker 5 (01:14:52):
Yes, the uniform too. That definitely helps. But you know
it's just also too oh you live your life on
the edge, Yeah, kind of kind of do. Every lady
wants to find their Honda. That's that's it.
Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
You know, I love the bad boy, but make sure
you come home safe to me. That's it.
Speaker 7 (01:15:09):
Yeah, right street, you got you got, you gotta put
respect on all the names there that are part of SWAT.
You know, when they show up, they're there to meet
in business.
Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Yeah, of course I just played the Hondo card.
Speaker 7 (01:15:21):
Yeah yeah, nice Yeah yeah, Hondo. I mean different variations
of Honda. The most recent one is Shemar Moore. But
it's you know street like in the movie you had
Colin Farrell. So yeah, you know, it's you go into
dangerous situations and you go home to a smoke show
of a lady. Good for you? There you go, No, no,
absolutely not. I how could I. I mean, you know,
(01:15:42):
these these guys got so much more to offer than
I do.
Speaker 5 (01:15:45):
So anyway, hey Dan, Dan, don't sell yourself short. I
appreciate it. I appreciate I you know, I'm a tremendous slouch.
I do know that.
Speaker 7 (01:15:55):
All right, Uh well, I see that some of you
want to still weigh in on the Rockets conversation.
Speaker 5 (01:16:00):
We can.
Speaker 7 (01:16:01):
We've that bic back into the conversation. But somebody we
talked about a lot. Is it time when it comes
to this player on the astros. We'll discuss here as
we close out seven o'clock hour Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Let the celebration start more Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
seven ninety.
Speaker 7 (01:16:21):
You know, just to kind of continue this and we'll
bring John on the northwest side in here on the
conversation is you know, not that it matters now, and
you know both of us are kept men, but it
always has cracked me up. This has happened to me
twice now of you know, Oh, I had a real
crush on you, Like the girl says that to you,
and I'm kind of like, well, I was a knucklehead
(01:16:42):
back then, why didn't you say anything?
Speaker 5 (01:16:44):
Kind of deal? I mean, does that ever happen? Sean?
Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
I think it happens to everybody at some point. Yeah, man,
I was you didn't say anything. You know we're doing there.
Everybody's married with kids and they're your friend, they become
your friends. They then they finally admit it. Oh yeah,
when I was fifteen, why'd you have a crush on me?
I was clueless? Yeah, But and you know, so it's
like when you had a crush on the girl with
headgear on? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:17:09):
There you go, So now I'm big on teeth. I'm
big on teeth.
Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
There you go. I Yeah, I think I think everybody's
been through that, or you regret not telling that girl
like when you were like the seventeen or sixteen man,
I remember, or when you were twelve in the seventh grade, right,
So yeah, I think everybody rolls through that at some
point in time. Or because it's okay your thirty year reunions.
I remember when I had a crush on you when
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we were fifteen. You did, No, you didn't that conversation. Yeah,
I think I think we've all been there.
Speaker 5 (01:17:39):
Yeah, well, you know, as I've told you.
Speaker 7 (01:17:41):
Another thing that I like to say is these things
have a way of working themselves out.
Speaker 5 (01:17:45):
And everything's worked out well.
Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
So there you go.
Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
We got that going for us, which is nice.
Speaker 7 (01:17:50):
Again seven one three two one two five seven ninety
the number two. Get in on the phone lines. Let's
uh continue the conversation. We'll push the astros to the
top of the eight o'clock hourd on on the northwest side.
Speaker 5 (01:18:01):
What's the way in, John? Good morning?
Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
Good morning?
Speaker 14 (01:18:04):
Yeah man, A girl tell me that I add some Well,
I mean, it's the crust still going on right now.
Speaker 5 (01:18:09):
Maybe we can resolve this fair point.
Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
If I'm with you, go for it, yeah.
Speaker 14 (01:18:17):
Man, yeah, yeah, hey man, you know what I got
out of this listen to Steve Curry last night and
uh watching them pull his players out.
Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
What I got out of that.
Speaker 14 (01:18:26):
Was, oh, okay, So you came to Houston with doubt
that you weren't gonna be able to beat this Rockets
team anyway. And also your team just didn't have enough
energy to match these young fellows over there. Your team
is a little tired, especially your main players because they're
(01:18:47):
thirty five and on up that that that catches up
with you when you're trying to trying to catch rabbits.
Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
It really does.
Speaker 14 (01:18:55):
But listen, now, you know the next game, what they're
gonna do. They gonna bludy that game up played dirty,
try to put the Rockets in a half court game.
The Rockets got to do what they did last night.
They have to play through that. Run, run, run, run.
The best thing can happen is that Golden State is
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gonna foud them trying to stop them from running. On
another note, I say this, when I saw Jalen Green
h hurt his knee last night, I had to consider
I wonder if Jalen Green came into this series with
a hurt knee man, because that compound that that that
(01:19:35):
injury that when he hit the guy last night, it
just didn't really look like it was It was that
much of a you know, of a.
Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Of a hit.
Speaker 14 (01:19:44):
But you know, Curry look of Curry. I didn't even
I knew Curry was hurt, but I didn't know that
his thumb was that swollen until they shoved the picture
last night. But you know, it's just something to consider.
I'm not giving Jalen Green a pass, but hey, what
if he did come into this series with a hurt
me and going forward, We're gonna have to pay attention
to see what Kenny do going forward with the next
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couple of games. But I mean, the Rockets can beat
Golden State with a game of Green anyway. They just
played their game. You can't beat you and that levicsm
like that. You got one guy over there, Curry, that's
the great player over there. You Curry can't beat you.
Sick if you cannot do it. This is still a
team game. I'm listening here what you guys got to say.
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And look, man, y'all have a good day.
Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (01:20:33):
I appreciate you too.
Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
John.
Speaker 7 (01:20:36):
I mean, you know, I just look at it as
this was a situation last night that you played desperate
basketball from the standpoint of, all right, we really have
to win this game. How do we win this game?
Get back to the basics and the Rockets. They're a
really good team at defending. They can crash the boards,
even though they lost that battle. But more than anything,
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we get steals, We forced them in the turnovers, We
create offense for ourselves, give ourselves those second opportunities, and
that's what they were able to do. And that's the how,
that's how they were able to win this game.
Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
Yeah, it was. It was a damn good performance by them,
and you got it. It was a I'm not gonna
say a different effort, but it was a different focus
on how to attack. And they look like a team.
And I think John's right, what you're going to get
in Golden State. They're going to try to, you know,
make you play to their temple and do the things
they want to do and use their home court advantage
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and the gamesmanship to theirs. But I believe, I fully
believe that Steve Ker saw the ask kick and said,
you know what this, uh, we're preserving this energy. But
I love the way they played. I love the way
they moved the basketball. I love the way they went
about their offensive game. I didn't have any questions they
were going to be really good on the defensive end,
but I love the way they attacked the offensive side.
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And it's it's a novel concept when you get out
in front and make people chase you right with a
big lead. And that's what happened last night.
Speaker 5 (01:22:00):
It was nice, I mean, And that's and it's not
like they've been unfamiliar with big leads in this series
and not quite to what they had last night.
Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
But yeah, we haven't got preservation this one. Yeah. Agree.
Speaker 7 (01:22:12):
So hopefully they can take the lessons from three to
four and apply them to Game six, because I mean,
you know, it's the old saying game seven, anything can happen,
And I think if that happens, Sean, I I feel
like you harken back to different team, clearly. But when
the Rockets were able to come back for Game seven
against the Clippers, it was kind of a feeling of Hey,
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we got this, but that's also a different team over
there of Golden State saying oh, yeah, well we've done this,
so we know how to do this.
Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
Yeah, got it and done it. I'll take the got
it if they if they have figured it out, I'll
take that team. But that old, old school, old man
strength is pretty good. You will get a better performance
out of Golden State, just like going in and like
when Matt Thomas walked in yesterday after our show and
we were talking, it was like we all felt pretty
good about the the result, how it was going to
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turn out. I would imagine Golden State, You're going to
see a different Golden State team and they're building on Thursday,
or excuse me, in game six that Thursday. But Game
six you're going to see, Yes, you are going to
see a different a different Golden State team, and the
Rockets would expect it. I would expect that you'd see
Golden State come out and give you maybe a different
type of game plan, but give you similar energy that
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the Rockets gave you last night. Understanding that they face
single elimination gone, while Golden State doesn't face that They're
going to play like it is because it may very
well be. They don't want to get on a plane
and go back to Houston for sure.
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Let's talk some Astros right here as the Stros lose yesterday, Sean,
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And it was a one for four game out of
cam Smith, but his last five games, two for his
last sixteen, and it's starting to make me wonder if
not only just those results, but it's how the at
bats are looking right now, Sewan. I know you're a
big cam Smith guy. I'm a big camp Smith guy.
But the field is not the issue for him. The
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bases are not the issue for him. It seems like
there's a little bit of an adjustment that needs to
be made at the plate right now. And I'm almost
wondering if the Astros are running into a situation where
those adjustments need to be made in Sugarland, not with
the team at the moment.
Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
Well, let me ask you this, why uh what did
you expect? We talked about this before, and the reason
I'm asking I'm not disagreeing with you, but if he's
got the toughness that we talked about and that they
talk about, and that he's built different. Why not let
him struggle through it up there at time? That is me,
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you know, why not let him get his mats up
there now if it looks overwhelmed on a regular basis
and the struggle, But did we did you? Truthfully, we've
seen flashes of it, but as a as a rookie
player in this league with the great pitching you face,
now he's had to deal with who now what the
Padres mets Detroit. I'm not saying that I'm not giving
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him a hall pass, but didn't you expect I'll be
honest with you, not only did I expect him to
show flashes of greatness? And we've seen it. You know,
the way he runs, and he's going to be a
hell of a right fielder, and he's got power. We
saw the two home run game, he hit the ball
the other way, fighting off a ninety plus up and
hits it to right field. All those things, and say, oh, okay,
(01:27:49):
but did we really expect We kind of even said
this is a transition team right now. When I say
that they're good, but they I mean you get five
six new guys in different positions or different new bodies combined,
it's a little different. Hell why are we I mean
if his confidence isn't waning, I mean it's he's not like,
oh my gosh, grinding where he's he looks overwhelmed. And
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when he gets off the team bus, why not let
him fight through it? Why why not let him play
through it? We would have second year guy, we do
a fourth year guy. Now, if it gets to the
point where Dan, I'm telling you, I said, the guy
has zero clue at the plate and you gotta say, okay, man,
let's go down there and tinker and do that. But
isn't this what we not only expected but kind of
pined for. Not not that he wanted to play poorly,
(01:28:32):
but at some point he was going to go through this.
He's young, this is his first bout with it. Hell,
we give everybody else a haul pass to get to
Oh man, it's okay, you know he's new or this
is who he is, he's a slow starter, and then
he let him play through it. If it starts to
look like this and it's getting in the way of
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the team, I get it, But we also don't want
it to be where you're playing him once every five
days because he's struggling, he's not getting at bats. You're
exactly right there, But what's the problem of testing it?
Because you knew he was going to hit this wall
at some point thirty games in or seventy games in.
So do we automatically say, ah, man two and two
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of sixteen or whatever, Dan the exact number you had
just mentioned, or do we say it takes as Dana
mentions constantly, it just takes one, you know, that a
bloop single and maybe he's still trying to figure out
this is big boy stuff now, But don't we want
to know he can handle it well?
Speaker 7 (01:29:32):
I mean, and to your point too, with the line
you just said about big boy stuff, I almost feel
like there's still a little bit of kid gloves with them,
which I don't really understand if he's here and you
need him to play every single day and that includes
late enning situations.
Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
Too, agreed.
Speaker 7 (01:29:48):
So I mean, that's that's the part with me where
I feel like there's kind of a disconnect here of all, right,
do you want him up here, do you want him
to kind of go through all of those things, or
do you want to still kind of kid glove them
platoonum out there with the Zenzo Chaz whoever it might be.
And I mean that's where with me, I'm kind of
lost on with the Astros handling of him.
Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
You don't want to be a spot guy. You wanted
to play regularly in fight through It and then yes, right,
and if he plays regularly, you're not pulling him out
for a pinch hit or late and he's in and
he's not being pulled for a defensive replacement because he's
still learning the position but has a chance to be
special at it. We've seen some you know, throws and
running catch that he's made. I mean, he's he's got
a clue. So yeah, if you've decided that you know
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what the kid gloves, if let's not let him face
too much adversity. Give him a couple to play him once,
give him a day off, play him two days in
a row, then give him two days off. If it
gets that, I would just I'm with you. Let me
go get it bats every day, go dominate, get it going.
I'm not sure I have to worry about his confidence.
I think the kid knows he's a player, which to
me is a big part of the battle. The middle side,
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But I'm not surprised, and we said it before the scenion.
He's gonna go through this if we expect him to
come out and hit three point thirty with an and
twelve home runs with thirty RBIs at this point, I mean,
come on, now, there are eighteen RBIs or twenty r
I mean, but you've seen enough to say we've got
something special here. So I get what you're saying.
Speaker 14 (01:31:12):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
If it becomes a detriment to the team, then you've
got to do what's right for the other eight cats
that are that are playing that day, and then it
entire roster. But we're so early, and the part of
me says, let's I'd rather play him more right now,
and then in ten more games that we say, man,
he's he's struggling. His bats are not good. The optics
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tell you. Then you can say, man, let's go down
and get some more work. Okay, tanker, go down there,
do your thing. This is major league pitching. Their their
fifth guys better than your number one guy in minor
league baseball. I get it, But I have no problem
allowing him to take this kick in the teeth and
play through it. They're looking We'll look what they're doing
with de Zenzo, moving him around a little bit right play,
a little right field, play left field. He's getting he's
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getting work, and he's he's you know, he swings the
back pretty well. So I'm more apt in a situation
like this not to take away from him to play
him through it. Now when people say, well, you can't
play him if he's no good, but how do I
find that out? On one day, every three days or
every other day, at least, let me get a ten
game run where he's you got him in the eight
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hole or seven hole every day, and let's see what
happens and then make a decision. That's the one thing
I didn't want if you were going to bring camp
Smith up in which I pine for, is to be
a guy who's not playing every day, not getting the
necessary bats to work through it. But I'm okay, I'm
personally okay at this stage letting him fight through it.
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I just am to see how, well, what if we
ruin his confidence? Well, if you ruin his confidence thirty
games into a season, then guess what he wasn't worthy
of the then he's not going to be the guy
we thought he was and I don't think he's that guy.
I think he's far more tough than a few at bats.
I just do. And I know he's getting some good work,
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I mean meaning playing time, but I'm okay penciling him
in every day. Well if that's the case, then why
are we running yinor Dias out when he's hitting one ninety?
Now he's getting bet you get? Or why scare or
should I say Christian Walker as well? Now he started
to living up with what would h Dana Brown told?
What an over nine hundred ohps left? He's starting to
get going? But what do you have to do? And
I know he's a veteran, but sometimes I don't care
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about age. I care about the mentality in the in
the approach. What do we let Christian Walker do? Play
through it? Right? Yeah? Through and still playing through it
because you're paying him. He's a veteran, he's seen it before.
But I'm not one of those guys that all of
a sudden looks at a rookie like he's got to
be a fragile personality that WHOA, We can't put him
in the same situation yinor who struggled through or or
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Christian Walker struggles. Why not everybody's not cut the same
or built the same. So but you're you're right about this, Dan,
I think is that if this what you're seeing continues,
and he's getting four AD bats to day for ten
straight games, eight nine straight games, then you may have
to go. You may have to send him down to
go get work, and maybe that'll happen. I'm not there yet.
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I'm not quite there yet.
Speaker 7 (01:34:06):
Yeah, Dana did tell us, you know, if they can
get to that bridge and they have to cross it,
well then that's exactly what to do. And speaking to
Christian Walker, oh for five yesterday in the cleanup spot,
just keep him out of the cleanup spot. I mean,
it's just clearly has that batch change when he's in
that spot. I don't know if he's putting pressure on himself.
I don't know if he's getting pitched differently, but clearly
(01:34:27):
things change. And I understand you rested yord on yesterday,
but six different TIRA, three different times where we left
at least six men on base of not being able
to come through in those spots. And I know that
he's done some good things as you mentioned, but still
I just would like to be able to get some
guys going, and seems like that five spot is a
spot that gets him going. Speaking of the astros, the
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With more on Salisbury Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 7 (01:37:04):
Gotta pay respect to the legends, for sure, but yes, uh,
and that's also too. By the way, that Ace song,
that's a that's a popular one of the spirit of
Houston Marching Band.
Speaker 5 (01:37:14):
They like to throw that out a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
How long has this been going on? That high hat though,
you know when you're also a high hat, A good
little tap of the high hat. You know when the
when the guy in between sets in between the next songs,
like just talking to the crowd. Yeah, but it's starting,
you're starting to it's like a little bit of the
just the music, the prelude that leads into the next cut,
(01:37:35):
and you can the high hat in the back just
kind of tap in away, right he maybe maybe he's
giving you a little story introducing the next song. How
it came about You got the high you know the
the front man is and your man on the high
hats just a little tap on the back and then
bam you kick in. Yeah, high hat's elite, no doubt
about it.
Speaker 7 (01:37:52):
Well it's you know another one that's got elite high
hat is heey lewis in the news. It's hip to
be square, you know it's at the end. I mean,
the drummers is hitting, hitting the hell out of that.
But to your point, I mean, where you really get
it is whenever the lead singer, Hey, you know, let
me introduce you.
Speaker 5 (01:38:06):
To the band on the base.
Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
We've got this guy and the high hats tappen, yeah
on the board exactly, J Paul Jones.
Speaker 14 (01:38:15):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 7 (01:38:17):
And then you know, I always love too like whenever
it's it's a band that might be from Houston or
they've got to they've got a member in the band
that's from Houston. Is you know, you want to fire
up the crowd even more as you know in the
in our bassis you know him, he's a Houston guy,
and everybody you know.
Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
Oh no doubt, dude. One of my favorite parts of
the honestly, of going to a concert is when you
know throughout at different times, you know, on the you know,
when I was at the Kid Rock concert a couple
weeks ago out there and in Austin, it was well
it was in Lano, but it was phenomenal, and you know,
I love it when they I mean, he had the
(01:38:53):
he grabbed some saxophone and he had his guy on
the fiddle and he introduced and dude, when he says,
you know, brought his guy on the fiddle, that's some
of my favorite part the drummer, when they bring out
the you know, on the base or on the lead.
It's just I love when we get to see them
do their thing by themselves, you know what I mean? Yeah,
And a fiddle by itself, if you're good, is off
(01:39:16):
the chart. So I agree, Oh yeah, I'm I'm all
into it. That's one of my favorite parts because then
we get to see their friggin' skill set. And I
think that's as that's as good as there is when
it comes to a concert. And and I love when
they just sit back and watch their guys bang it. Man,
it's awesome.
Speaker 15 (01:39:32):
Now.
Speaker 7 (01:39:32):
Absolutely shout out Brady Black from the Randy Rogers Band.
He's he's one that can lay it down on the fiddle.
So there you go, big time. Absolutely absolutely. You always
gotta you always gotta look out for the band members.
That's uh, That's that's for sure. We'll get into the
Astros bullpen here in just a second. But again on
the phone line seven one three two one two five
seven ninety, we were just talking about Cam Smith and
(01:39:54):
let's head out to Montgomery. Ryan wants to talk a
little Camp Smith. Good morning, Ryan, guys. There, I'll do
it very well.
Speaker 16 (01:40:02):
Hey, so I got to go to the game yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 16 (01:40:05):
In the suites, even losing looks good man. I don't
think I can go to regular games anymore.
Speaker 5 (01:40:09):
But it does ruin you, that's for sure.
Speaker 16 (01:40:13):
That being said, talking about Cam Smith, I understand the
hesitation Dan about you know, maybe he needs to go
back down. I can see those being issues. But I
mean if we talk about other players, right, So the
wonderful thing about baseball as you can't hide, right, so.
Speaker 5 (01:40:27):
Everybody has to take it bats.
Speaker 16 (01:40:28):
You have to go out there and do it yourself.
That being said, there's other guys on the field, you know,
in that starting nine that need to be doing their
job as well to where Cam Smith maybe having not
the best at bats isn't the worst.
Speaker 17 (01:40:43):
Right.
Speaker 16 (01:40:43):
So it's seventy five at bats a two fourteen average,
I mean compared to you know, Christian Walker one oh seven,
one ninety five and then Brendan Rodgers. Right, So he's
been in the league for a while. He has only
fifty four at bats this season at two twenty two.
Speaker 3 (01:40:57):
But we're now talking about him.
Speaker 16 (01:40:59):
I think at the end of the day, Cam Smith
is doing much better than I think any rookie would do.
And I don't think sending him down would be the
best idea yet. I mean, he's not shaving facial hair
in the dugout and thinking it's gonna fix something. So
I think if right now, let it play out. I mean,
it's not like he's doing poorly. And yes there are
some errors there, but look at that air Painion made
(01:41:22):
or Rogers, you can put it on whoever you want there.
I don't remember how it was scored, but that was
kind of where everything fell apart for blue ball last
night or yesterday, and so it's you know, you can't
hide in baseball, but there should be people taking up
a mental to where we're not so worried about camp Smith.
And I think right now camp Smith is doing exactly
what he needs to do.
Speaker 5 (01:41:42):
He's getting better.
Speaker 16 (01:41:43):
And if you want to put tune in with Dezenzo
every now and again, that's totally fine. I mean, Dezenzo
is bat in two fifty right now, that's legit. But
cam Smith is the future. If Decenzo is the future,
we would have been using him a long time ago.
So I think camp Smith is doing just fine where
he's at there's a little bit of learning, and I
think that should be expected. And I think for everything
that's going on, he's doing a fantastic job. But other
(01:42:05):
than that, guys, I'm gonna shut up and listen and
I'll talk to you all later.
Speaker 5 (01:42:09):
Now you're welcome anytime.
Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
Right. I appreciate it. Thank you, Ryan, great stuff and
great points. Now do Kyle Tucker fifty to sixty at
bats into his career? What was he hitting? Do we know?
Speaker 5 (01:42:21):
I'd have to go back and look, but yeah, but
it wasn't had the check swings. That was one of
his problems.
Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
So and you remember that, So I do other guys doing.
You take a look at this team as it's kind
of alarming. When Ryan brought up you know, Janer's trying
to get rolling, Christian Walker's shown flashes you, I mean
you start to stay, uh, Jordan Alvarez, Brendan, I mean Rogers,
(01:42:48):
Cam Smith. You start to look at the team of
guys who are veterans that are struggling, let alone a guy.
So I think a lot of people the first thing
comes to mind is the struggle, but is at the confidence.
I honestly, Dan, I've been around some rookies in football,
are young players in football that the struggle to them,
you could see that the struggle may have affected them.
(01:43:10):
But then there's the guy that's built like really, they
look at it is the struggle, I'll get through it,
but it's not them then, instead of like when you
look at the struggle and say, man, I know what
the hell I've been, there was like I know him
better than this? Is this me? Damn? You start you do?
Then there's the cat who's hitting two ten who says, huh,
(01:43:32):
not only is it not me? You guys enjoy this?
Why you can your opponents because you're gonna pay for
this when I when I'm doing what I know I'm
capable of, but also when I know who I am.
That's part of my DNA and makeup. And maybe cam
Smith is that guy. And so I were not there
(01:43:52):
yet for me, Dan, but I'm with you. I understand
the roads you're on. I'm just not quite in the
church peer yet. Does that make sense with Camy? I
know you're not fully sold on him. You're starting to
broach the question.
Speaker 7 (01:44:03):
Right right right, And that's and that's it, and you
know we can continue this too, because I mean I
think to Ryan's points, it maybe is a little amplified
just because of what the other guys who you're trying
to count on aren't doing. I mean, Yiner comes off
the bench yesterday, strikes out, and he's still got that
ass out swing over that slider. That's starting to make
me wonder about him. If there's a book on him
(01:44:24):
of you throw that slider, he will chase it. Allah,
kind of like what we've seen from Jeremy Pania and
during his career Craig Bigio where he seemingly would do
the wheel of fortune, spin the wheel on that.
Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
Yeah, there's no doubt about it. But the guy that
you're talking about, I mean, he's we know the catcher
is going to turn this around, right, I mean at
least at least I mean we've seen I guess we'll
get the benefit out because we've seen the good stuff.
And and obviously the guy you mentioned visual, he was
pretty good. He found a way to do all his stuff.
(01:44:57):
So but the only way for med and to get
it done is to see it. Does that make sense?
So some guys, some guys can you do it different,
But for me as a visual I need to see
it and you know, ninety five from the big boys
looks a little different than ninety one from the minor leaguer.
It just does. And I know that you can build
(01:45:18):
your confidence, but let's be frank, are you getting more
confidence playing against better players or more confidence once you
survive it? And once you survive it, even though you
went through the struggles, the confidence grows even bigger because
you were able to survive it against the big boys
and then thrive against the big boys. I kind of
always lean like that, But you're right, I don't know
(01:45:40):
fragility wise, personality wise, I'm not even talking about just
Cam Smith. Don't talk about anybody. You really don't know
till you see him come out the other side of
it where it's like, Okay, that's who that guy is.
But I almost believe we got to allow just like
when you allow your kids to struggle, you got to
allow your players to struggle a little bit too, as
long as it's not a major detriment to the team. Right,
(01:46:00):
you can still contribute hitting two twenty if it may
not look good. But there's a reason. If we're going
to let veterans do it, let's let the young kid
fight through it. Until he's proven that he can't do it,
at least at this very moment, and then go get
him some I'm not prepared to do that just yet.
I'm not.
Speaker 7 (01:46:16):
Well, that's fair, Todd. So you want to get in
biscuit as well. We'll get you guys into the conversation
and also to get into a little bit of that
Astro's pitching boy. It continues to post, doesn't it. We
will discuss all of that here as we continue here
on the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.
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That Lance McCullers is making his season debut on Sunday.
I have dishonored your I have dishonored myself, and I've
dishonored a platoon. So now I will stand here eating
the jelly donut while you and Triple do push ups.
Speaker 5 (01:49:04):
Well, I mean, I guess you guys are actually doing
push ups. So there you go.
Speaker 7 (01:49:08):
Now, okay, all right, there you go. Triple chest all
the way to the ground too, or they don't count.
Everybody knows that. But as we do here on The
Sean Salisbury Show, we talked about it. It's fair game,
and we've talked a lot of rockets in addition to
the astros.
Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
Go ahead, Dan, Sorry, Dan, sorry about that. I didn't
know I was on mute, but I.
Speaker 5 (01:49:24):
Was, well, you're good and you're good out those push ups.
Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
Well I was about to say, you you do you
you eat the jelly donut with the well on your
back while you do the push ups. Okay, but that's
the man. We'll watch and help you and we'll eat
the jelly donut while you got one sitting on your back.
But yes, uh, we're getting something. This is exciting to
see this this weekend, right, and it has taken us
a while get to it. And I guess it's I
(01:49:51):
don't know if it's like a it's like a weird feeling.
Think about how long it's been. I mean, it's all
it's always like, man, we get the now, the performance.
I can't wait to see it. So the anticipation, the injuries,
the struggle that he's been through, not just to the injuries,
but you know, I think the last picture that some
(01:50:13):
people have of him wasn't in against Philly. Was it
in Philly when he just got raked the yeah yeah
yeah yeah. So so now appears to be healthy and
now you're going to ramp up the stress on it
and put him in a real game and let's see
what he's got how I don't know how many pitches
they are going to allow or we're but I can't
(01:50:34):
wait to see it. I can't wait to see It's
been so long. A lot of us at the time, Dan,
I don't know if you were on board with this,
didn't believe that he was ever going to start another
game here.
Speaker 5 (01:50:46):
It started to make you wonder me.
Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
Yeah, Lee, And not that you obviously hoped he would,
because you know, Houston loves him, but it got to
a point where you're like, wonder if it's ever going
to happen. Well, here we are, and it's a couple
of days away, and it's been anticipated for a while.
I'm here for it.
Speaker 7 (01:51:01):
Well, I mean, I think he even started to have
that doubt, Sean. I mean, he missed twenty three, he
missed last year, and it seems like he was ramping
up last year to make the return, and then all
of a sudden he shut down again, and you're just like, man,
this just might not happen.
Speaker 5 (01:51:15):
I mean, it's not.
Speaker 7 (01:51:16):
Even an if or when it's just a it just
doesn't even seem like it seems like we're to the
third option here of won't. And you know, he's he's
now on the win because we know when that will be.
It'll be Sunday against the White Sox. But again someone
three two one two five seven ninety. The conversation, uh
(01:51:37):
continues on biscuit.
Speaker 5 (01:51:38):
What's the way in here? Biscuit? What's going on?
Speaker 14 (01:51:41):
Hey?
Speaker 15 (01:51:42):
Dan a man, Big Sean Man Dan Sean. A couple
of things come to mind, tying all the things. Then
shine is expectations, you know, and patience. It seemed like
to day shine and today's we just don't have a
patience and we've got these unrealistic expectations, you.
Speaker 5 (01:52:06):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 15 (01:52:06):
And it's it goes through all the sports. You know,
like you said, when you whether you're talking about Cam
Smith or c J. Stroud or Jalen green Weed, what
do you think that you know, when we thought Cam
was gonna come out back four hundred.
Speaker 18 (01:52:22):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
What what was the expectation about hitting what he's hitting
now and learning that's what he That's what the expectations
were to go to the shine.
Speaker 15 (01:52:32):
Yeah, that's what it should have been. But you know
you trying to think some people think he should be
backing three fifty right now. I'm like, okay, man, it's
it's nothing like experience and in anything any walk of life.
And so there's some growing pains for everybody here. Mean,
and no matter what job you do is some growing pains.
And so you have to be patient. And and you know, shout,
(01:52:56):
I've been talking that with Jalen Green how many years now,
trying let's let's be paid ship.
Speaker 1 (01:53:01):
Right.
Speaker 15 (01:53:01):
Then you have a couple of bad playoff games. Man,
we need to get Jalen Green up out of here. No, man,
look back and see what Steph Curry did in his
first playoff game. Go you know, like you say, go
back and look and see what Tucker how he started out.
It's just just we just gotta just pump the brakes.
Speaker 14 (01:53:18):
Man.
Speaker 15 (01:53:18):
They got talent. It's gonna show, like you say, shine,
and they got the wherewithal within him. He's got to
give them a little time, give him a little grace, man,
and and everything's gonna work out.
Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
Yeah, And a lot of times it ends up working
out better because they actually went through this stuff. Right.
That'll be the true test not only for Cam Smith,
but you know, Jalen Green struggles the rest of the series,
the off season and come through it what he looks
like next year. Are you are you still sold on
Jalen Green? You talking about that patience watching this, any
concerns at all for you on this biscuit.
Speaker 15 (01:53:53):
I mean it's just Shue concern, But I still think
you got you know what I mean.
Speaker 18 (01:53:58):
Right, it's first playoff series.
Speaker 15 (01:54:01):
It's another stage, another step. There's no shortcuts, you.
Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 15 (01:54:06):
You can't just boom and they Now, man, let's let's
see what he how he works on his game and
off season. Let's see once the season go with. I
still think the Rockets got a chance. Yeah, personally, Yeah,
And so let's let's see how it goes. You know,
let's see what he does this time going back to
Golden State. But Golden State, you know, one thing we
(01:54:26):
do know Sean, is they trying to take him out
the game. That's their playing. So he's having to rise
up against that. It's not like, uh, you know, he said,
well this other guys don't pretty. Yeah, but they they're
targeting Jason Jalen.
Speaker 1 (01:54:39):
There's a focus on Yeah, there's a focus on making
sure he's not the one right.
Speaker 15 (01:54:45):
Right, because they know Sean. If Jayaler scores thirty points.
What's the Rockets record? So they know this, so they're like, Okay,
we got to stop this dudeen sporing and then we'll
see And so he has to that's something he has
to fight through. I'm willing to wait on him, man.
You know, I see all these trees and Giannis and
Katie and no man, this.
Speaker 18 (01:55:09):
Spectations. Then let the man play through it.
Speaker 15 (01:55:12):
It can fight through it.
Speaker 1 (01:55:16):
Yep, no argument for me.
Speaker 5 (01:55:19):
Appreciate it, Biscuit.
Speaker 1 (01:55:21):
He's a great and I ride on that too. I understand.
You know the Jalen Greens. Now it is what third
year Dan and we expect a little more. It's time,
it's a moving year, but it is his first playoff,
so it's he's basically a rookie playoff wise, And I
get with one percent with Biscuits saying, now, if Giannis
is thrown into the fray, obviously that changes a lot
(01:55:42):
for a lot of people. But yeah, I think we're
obviously premature quitting on Jalen Green. But what we don't
know is who which guy is he? But unless we
let it play out, we won't know. So that's part
of it. And then there's always the extra circumstances of
like a guy, if Jannis comes into the fray, would
(01:56:02):
you be willing to move him? Well, that's something you
always have to visit because he's just a that's a
that's a different talent. But the Campsmith thing that I
haven't even thought once about sending him down to the
minors just yet. I'm willing to let him get kicked
in the mouth because I think the long term ramifications
work in his favor with his skill set if you
let him play through it here as opposed to playing
through minor leaguers, which he's supposed to dominate. We saw
(01:56:25):
that at spring training.
Speaker 7 (01:56:28):
Well, at least with Jalen Green, he's not two and
twelve in his last fourteen playoff games unlike some other people.
Speaker 1 (01:56:34):
Good point, yeah, outstanding point. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:56:36):
At least he's got that going for him. Todd, see
you right there.
Speaker 7 (01:56:40):
Get you involved also too, if you want to join
Todd there someone three two, one, two, five seven to ninety.
Let's continue the Astros conversation here as we close out
the eight o'clock hour, because these guys just continue to impress.
We will talk about them next right here Sean Salisbury Show.
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And someone three two one two five seven ninety as.
So we've been talking Cam Smith here. That's where Todd
Cyprus wants to go. Todd, good morning, Mornan.
Speaker 12 (01:58:18):
Yeah, I just uh, I mean, I granted I missed
probably earlier when the conversation came up about Smith. To me,
I mean our offense. I mean there's a lot of
concerns there right outside of Pereddi's and Payna. You know,
everybody's greatly underperforming. But Cam Smith, I mean to me,
if you actually break down his numbers, the average is low,
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but the ops is around six eighty field adjusted the
ops plus ninety five. I mean that that's just a
little below league average. And he's only twenty two. And
if you projected out what he's got, I mean he's
on pace for twenty home run seventy RBIs.
Speaker 18 (01:58:58):
I mean that's right.
Speaker 1 (01:58:59):
About where Paya is his rookie year.
Speaker 12 (01:59:00):
Only Cam Smith is a couple of years younger.
Speaker 1 (01:59:03):
Than Paanya was.
Speaker 12 (01:59:04):
So and and and Smith's defense, uh, I mean, I
know he's got a couple of layers that overall, the
defensive metrics are showing that he's he's a he's a
good outfielder, and uh, you know, it's not like we've
got anybody to I mean, who are you going to
put there instead? Chaz has had past success, Descenzo's got
a little potential, Myers is obviously a great defensive player.
Speaker 1 (01:59:27):
But all three of.
Speaker 12 (01:59:28):
Those guys are question marks at best. And even al
tuo Vey hall of Famer that he is, you know,
he's not having an overall all around great start to
the year either. So Cam Smith, I have more faith
in him out of all those guys, outside of all two,
I have more faith in him offensively than any of
the rest. So I just don't know who you would
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even replace him with if you did send him down
to the miners. I mean, I just you know, he's
even if the average is low, I mean, the powers
there his on as percentage of me he does walk,
I mean, there's there's plenty of good signs there to
stick with him. In my opinion, He's he to me,
he needs He's not not the concern at this point.
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But you know, I I overall, I mean, I'm I'm
feeling upbeat. And positive with the way this team is playing.
I mean even yesterday, I mean one one air or
at least the five hundred runs. I mean, they could
have swept the best team in the AL if you've
changed one play in that game. So you know, I
think they're doing well. I think cam Smith will be fine.
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I've got no concerns with him, and I'll hang up
and listen. Thanks.
Speaker 5 (02:00:38):
I appreciate the call.
Speaker 1 (02:00:39):
Todd. Hell hell of a point. I'm with her. I
think he's going to be a star in this league.
That's just my opinion.
Speaker 7 (02:00:45):
I mean, and it's also too, I mean from everything
that we've talked about, I mean, the average, the strikeouts,
I mean, I guess you know it's also too. What
kind of amplifies this a little bit as the situation
that he was in us stay a chance to be
able to cut into that lead, and you take strike
three fastball right down the middle. I'm just kind of like, dude,
what are you looking for in that spot? But I mean,
it's one at bad. It's not one that you know
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is the overall body of work. It's just it's a
question of are you prepared to let him go through
those struggles and I think that's probably a little bit sean.
While you're seeing some of the yo yo right now
of him being platooned, being taken out lates all of
these other things. Is it fair to say that it's
not necessarily about him, it's about others and he's just
the one that's wearing it.
Speaker 1 (02:01:28):
Oh, I would think so we always look at that
that's one hundred percent correct. Maybe not one hundred percent,
but I think you're spot on with that. There's there's
no doubt. And you know, you know what happens, Dan,
when guys around you're kicking ass it just do you
just kind of flow, even if you're struggling a little bit,
and you put him in positions where he doesn't have
to feel that. And that's also part and parcel the
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responsibility of veterans to take care of their business. I agree,
And I.
Speaker 7 (02:01:55):
Mean I guess the positive of all of this too,
that you know we haven't gotten to is the astro
bullpen yesterday where you get aj blue ball, some good,
some bad. Some things worked against him. I mean, he's
only dinged for a couple of earned runs in his
four innings because of said error on the throw by
Pana to allow for the Grand Slam by by as
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to happen. But you get Logan van why two scoreless
innings yesterday? Same deal for one out of Steven Okert,
Brian King and Caleb Ort. The number one highest ranked
e r A in the American League belongs to the Astros.
Speaker 1 (02:02:35):
You said the highest ERA in the American League.
Speaker 7 (02:02:37):
Well, the lowest. But they've they've got that. They've got
the league's best. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't present it. Well, yeah, no,
there's no doubt. And Danny, even though they scattered a
few hits yesterday in the bullpen, right, a handful of hits,
they didn't give up any runs, did they.
Speaker 5 (02:02:50):
They did not. They gave up let's see, six five.
Speaker 1 (02:02:55):
Run third inning was what got him the I to me,
this pitching staff has been everything, I mean, hell more
than advertised because we especially bullpen, we thought we're got
to move around. Whose hater going to be this year?
Breaks back in the eight hole, Presley's no longer here.
You got some new arms, you got some young arms,
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you got some veter I mean, it was a little
bit everything, and you tyke that with the with the
way this for the most part, the starting pitching is
getting a little deeper and pitching their ass off. I
I have zero argument or problem with the way that,
for the most part that the pitching staff can out.
It wasn't a great, great start for blue Ball, there's
no doubt about that. That's okay, I mean it started,
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but the bullpen did exactly what they needed to do
for the most part when they've come in and that's
been their calling card the whole year. The pitching staff's
been a strength here for quite some time and right
now is doing it again. You're in, You're in every
game for the most part with this pitching staff.
Speaker 7 (02:03:56):
Yeah, it's definitely you know again, like we talked about
earlier with the Rockets and the the defense that travels,
same deal with the Astros where the pitching staff they've
pretty much been the constant all season long, and it's
just a question of can you hit that game and
if you do, you feel like you got a good opportunity.
So hopefully the Astros can continue that as promised though.
Coming up here as we start at nine o'clock hour,
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Tomorrow night in San Francisco, beating the Warriors one thirty one,
one sixteen. Astros lose to the Tigers, but take two
out of three. They lose yesterday seven to four. The
White Sox coming up next on Sunday, and the NFL
is fine. The Falcons two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
and defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrick one hundred thousand dollars for
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quote failing to present prevent the disclosure of confidential information
distributed to the club in advance of the NFL draft. Sean,
I mean, I'll ask you before you know, we involve
Gordy in the conversation too. If any of your kids
cost you one hundred thousand dollars, how long would that
take to be able to work that off?
Speaker 1 (02:06:07):
Well, a long time. But also if I were and
Olbrook and he's owned it, he gave it, he said,
listen and talking to the Sanders family, they were gracious
when they didn't have to be. He said, you know
my mistake as well. I still wonder if that's where
he got the number, But well that's for a different conversation.
It's hard to sift through that and all the encrypted
(02:06:30):
information you get un less should you know, should door
Sanders number was the one on the screen, But I digress.
I thought that the way Olbrich handled it was was great.
That's an expensive phone call. I can tell you that
that's an expensive phone call. But yes, they would have
learned a valuable lesson. I would imagine Jeff made sure
his son knew about that too. One hundred for him
and two hundred and fifty. That's a three hundred fifty
(02:06:52):
thousand dollars call. The prank wasn't smart, but the kid apologized,
let's move on in the way Olbrick handled it like
a champ. So yeah, I can assure you this, he
won't prank call anybody else again.
Speaker 19 (02:07:04):
Well, there I saw a lot of people defending and saying, oh,
it's just a prank, call a prankyday.
Speaker 5 (02:07:10):
Is your refrigerator running?
Speaker 8 (02:07:11):
You know that?
Speaker 17 (02:07:12):
Right?
Speaker 5 (02:07:12):
Kind of stuff?
Speaker 19 (02:07:13):
Right, this is blatant, you know, I don't know what
you want to call it. What's what's the word? But
like faking to be somebody else in countries, that's a crime.
Speaker 1 (02:07:22):
Yeah, and it's also just it's it's it's it's horrible
considering the circumstances. Just real quick. I remember when I
was getting drafted that day. A couple of my buddies
called it like seven in the morning. See, because we
had the draft in the morning. If you guys remember,
you'd wake up. The drafts started like a nine or
ten o'clock. So if you were thinking you were gonna
(02:07:43):
get it was on the West coast, it was early,
and my buddy started calling. I said, dude, it's six
forty five. Don't call me right now, not today. Yeah,
every time the phone rang, you're like, man, am I
going higher than I thought? I'm coming off an injury,
and so it bothered you and your buddies were just
trying to be kind. It wasn't a prank call. So
going through that, and if you're Schauduer Sanders and you
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literally thought you were going to be a top five
pick and ended up falling, now we wouldn't be having
this conversation if Olbrick's kid makes the call. Like thirty
one other people got prank calls on that draft data,
It was like thirty people or thirty one people got
prank calls. And then last year what Cooper de Gene,
I mean there were people or two years ago whatever
it was getting prank calls. This wasn't the only one.
(02:08:26):
But at the popularity and all the controversy surrounding the
fall in the draft, if he would have been drafted
twelfth instead of you know where the prank call about
ninth with the Saints, this, nobody would even be talking
about it because he would have still been drafted close
to where we thought the fact that he plummeted so
far it became an issue. I thought it was weak
by the kid, and you just can't do it because
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this is a livelihood you're talking about now. Once the
apology is there, take the apology. It's an expensive fine
and you move on and the Sanders family will as
they should. But Olbrooke handled it right, Jeff did. He
was very wise and said it that you sent a
loud message, and it's an expensive message as well, for sure.
Speaker 7 (02:09:03):
Chris Gordy joins us every Tuesday and Thursday here on
the Sean Salisbury Show courtesy of Carbock Brewing and Gordy.
Last night, well, it didn't send you to the car
back trying to drown your sorrows. It actually probably sent
you there in a celebratory mood last night.
Speaker 19 (02:09:19):
Well yeah, I mean the Rockets win was big. That
the Astros game yesterday. Look, they gave blue Ball chance
to kind of show what he could do. He missed on,
you know, one big pitch and gives up the Grand
Slam and suddenly what was it? A seven to one
game and everybody's going, ah, this one's over. But then
the Astros offense actually started battling back and they kept
putting runners on, but they couldn't do anything with it,
(02:09:39):
and so that was kind of frustrating.
Speaker 5 (02:09:40):
But nonetheless those series.
Speaker 19 (02:09:42):
Win, you know, and now you go up to Chicago
where the White Sox absolutely freaking stinks.
Speaker 5 (02:09:48):
So you should take care of business up there, and
you know that you look at the division.
Speaker 19 (02:09:52):
Now you're two games back, a division leading Seattle. I
feel like this thing changes every two days.
Speaker 5 (02:09:57):
Guys.
Speaker 19 (02:09:57):
It's like, you know, it was the Rangers, then you know,
then the Angels really in the division. Now it's the Mariners.
Astras are right there. Man, Just take care of businesses
next couple of days to weeks, and you know, maybe
there'll start to be some separation here in the aos.
Speaker 1 (02:10:12):
And you know what, Gordy in truth, isn't this what
we expected back and forth all year long. A team
that's gonna win the division by a couple of games
when all of a sudden done mixed upt maybe the
but the Angels do this, they'll tease you early and
then they'll disappear. But between the Rangers and the Mariners
and Ashers, it's going to be a competitive division. So
with that, we mentioned the pitching, so let me put
that aside for a second. What is your most If
(02:10:35):
I said, give me the most impressive, you've got to
give a motivational speech on the Astros most impressive person
grouping player outside pitching. What's the most impressive thing about
him so far?
Speaker 5 (02:10:47):
So you said outside of pitching, that includes the bullpen.
Speaker 19 (02:10:49):
Yeah, pitching, not starting and bullpen. Yes, yeah, I mean
to me, it is the bullpen. But if I can't
say the bullpen. You know, Jeremy Panya is having a
very nice sea. I mean, you know, Ross and I
made a lunch bet before the season. I thought Penya
was gonna hit. I forget what it was. I think
I said twenty home runs or something, but he's got
four right now. But I just had this feeling watch
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him in spring training. You know, he the last year
or two when I saw it as spring training, it
was like he was in a like a body building,
uh you know, competition where his arms and he looks
so impressive. But it's like, bro, we're not We're not
trying to win best best looking. We're trying to win
baseball games. And so I think, you know, he's he's
(02:11:32):
kind of he's still athletic as hell, but like it
wasn't as bulky. I guess she'll say this offseason and
you know, whenever he's done to refocus himself in his
swing and everything else, he's looking good man. And I
liked the whole idea of him in that lead all
spot and he's doing his job. So to me, that's
that's been kind of the big one for me is
Jeremy Payania kind of emerging back as the guy we
(02:11:53):
saw his rookie season that was, you know what, World
Series MVP and then kind of regressing these lit two years.
Speaker 5 (02:12:00):
This year has been phenomenal so far.
Speaker 7 (02:12:03):
Yeah, and you know, with this seeries coming up, I
mean we talked about a little bit earlier. Lance mccullors
finally gets his opportunity, and you know, Gordy, me and
Sean talked about it a little bit earlier. You know,
it's the old if and when I went the third option,
I said, will it? I mean, you know, won't? I mean,
those things kind of started to creep into your mind.
So the fact that we're here, now, what can we
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actually do you believe expect from Lance mccullors.
Speaker 5 (02:12:29):
I mean, just just go out there and like just
get through a couple of innings.
Speaker 19 (02:12:33):
I don't even care ifull he gives up runs Like
to me, it's it's more of an accomplishment to get
him back and get out there on the mountain. No,
he's looked good in these you know, minor league starts,
So I'm just wild.
Speaker 5 (02:12:45):
Guys.
Speaker 19 (02:12:45):
Look, mccullor's has done everything he can to get back
on the mount It's not his fault. No, No, nobody
wants to be out there more than Lance mccullor's. And
Wheniam It takes them ount on this Sunday, the first
time he takes them ount for the astis it's November
of twenty twenty two in the World Series against Philly,
which by the way, was a rough outing for him.
But I'm appalled by how many people on social media,
(02:13:07):
on our Facebook page and all this that are just
filled with negative comments about Lance.
Speaker 5 (02:13:11):
And I get it, man, like the injuries suck.
Speaker 19 (02:13:13):
You're paying them a lot of money to not pitch,
and I understand the negative thoughts, but you should be
excited if you're an Astros fan, Lance freaking mccolors is
back with this pitching staff, pitching as well as it
has aj blue box excluded like this, you should be
ecstatic because if Lance is back and he's good, you
have an embarrassment of riches. This is a good thing
(02:13:35):
for your team. I just don't get the negative. Yeah,
he'll probably get hurt in the third inning. Yeah he'll
probably Like look, I get it, the injury suck. But
like to have the negative connotations all around this, like
like hell for Lance mccaus you're a real Astros fan,
Like hell for this guy that he goes out there
dominates because if he does, that's good for your team.
(02:13:56):
It spells good things the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (02:13:59):
Yeah. No, but he wants no player. I know, Like, man,
I love being hurt, so I can take this forty
million dollar abuse or whatever it is. Right, nobody wants
to go through that with Lance mccollors. In Gordy, I'm
with you. Get through a few innings and I'm gonna
even push it a little further, get through a few
innings or pe. I don't care if it's three or
four success. I'm actually looking forward to start two. How
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he comes back from let's say he throws seventy five
pitches or whatever it is, How he responds, whether he
pitches great or pitches average, whatever, how he responds and
gets quit. You know, his arm recovers and pitches in
Game two and then let me I want to see
that because the back to back part, okay, five days later,
that part I'm really I'm looking forward to. So with
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that Gordy, with mccollors and rooting for him success, do
you believe we have seen his best.
Speaker 5 (02:14:47):
Pitching yet in his career?
Speaker 1 (02:14:50):
Yes? You think even though with all the you know,
the old six million dollar man rebuilding all that, is
there a chance that we haven't seen his best yet.
Speaker 5 (02:15:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 19 (02:15:01):
I mean, he may have peaked a couple of years
ago when you know, like he was part of that
seventeen World Series and it right, you know, the Yankees
just struck out again on another curveball he through.
Speaker 5 (02:15:10):
So I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 19 (02:15:11):
If he'll get back to that, but he doesn't have
to be that like you've got when Christian Hovey eventually
gets back, we'll see you on Luis Garcia.
Speaker 5 (02:15:19):
But this, you know, and Fromber will be a free agent.
Speaker 19 (02:15:22):
But the Hunter Brown, Spencer, Arraghetty Hayden was n Nesky
run up Blancle like you're strong enough, like in other
years you might have to go. Lance, we really need
to be our number two, if not our ace dude, Like,
that's that's all we need from you. No, we need
you to be the number four, number five guy. That's
all we're asking for you to do. But I just
don't know where we all became these debbie downers where
(02:15:43):
it's like, hey, Lance McCullers is back, he's probably gonna
get hurt. Hey, the Astros one today, they're probably gonna
lose tomorrow. Like God, like we're all just cynics, and
it's like, enjoy the damn moment.
Speaker 5 (02:15:54):
This guy worked his ass off to get back here.
Speaker 1 (02:15:56):
Let's appreciate him if it's a long and it's a long, right, Dan,
I was gonna tell you before you ask your next question.
Ryan Fortson sent us a message on Twitter. Was talking.
I asked about the Tucker first sixty five sixty at
bats compared to camp Smith and should you send him down? Well,
Tucker's first sixty four at bats he was hitting one
forty one and so it turned out pretty good for him.
(02:16:17):
So the mental toughness is a big part of this.
So had I have had it down.
Speaker 5 (02:16:21):
Even the Hall of Famers, Yeah, don't hit immediately. I mean,
it's no.
Speaker 7 (02:16:26):
He's supposed to come up here. He's supposed to be
Aaron Judge. He's supposed to hit home runs, bat Yeah, exactly,
that's what he's supposed to be. No, just kidding, of course.
But Gordy, it's the weekend. I mean, it's here. I mean,
you know, soon enough we're gonna head outside see the
sales department. They're going to pretty much be treating it
like it's the weekend. So you got Rockets basketball tomorrow,
(02:16:47):
you got Astros baseball over.
Speaker 5 (02:16:49):
The weekend, Lance thrown on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (02:16:50):
I mean, and where I'm going with this is we
got a lot of great opportunities from Crawford Bock.
Speaker 5 (02:16:55):
Yeah you do.
Speaker 19 (02:16:55):
You get the Kentucky Derby Saturday. It's plenty of opportunities.
So join us cold for Bach And it was great.
Out of friend in from out of town. I'd see
in a while over the weekend and he opened up
the fridge said what's this beer? I said, oh, you're
in for a tree. Let me learn you something.
Speaker 5 (02:17:10):
It's Crawford Bock from our friends at car Bock Brewing Tequila.
Speaker 19 (02:17:12):
Sundrie stripes on the can pairs perfectly with Astros baseball,
and yeah, well the Astros are on the road. Listen
to him here on seven ninety sit in the comforts
of your own home and open up an ice col
Crawford Bach and let's root on those Astros. Hope for
two out of three, maybe even a sweep of the
Chicago White Sox. But do it drinking the Crawford Bach,
and we'll see if we can win on a horse
race on Saturday too.
Speaker 5 (02:17:32):
Guys, that's true. Yeah, I didn't even think about that.
I know that the wife I can't wait for that.
Speaker 1 (02:17:37):
This is sad. This Saturday is one of my favorite
Saturdays of the year. I love Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 7 (02:17:41):
I was gonna say, I mean, even though you know,
we don't get a lot of horse racing talk on here,
but we did the Master's Draft. I mean, I don't
know anything about anybody else. Real quick, I'll give you
the favorite at three to one is journal journalism. I
knew that my buddy brought up if journalism trips and
falls and breaks his leg, they might have to kill
him and we could say journalism is dead.
Speaker 14 (02:17:59):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (02:17:59):
Ah, and you know what that would possibly be fake news?
There you go right, you have fake news. We got that,
Toby Keiths, I think I got a horse. So you
know it's it's it's always a fun weekend. So Sean,
if we did do that tomorrow, I got to be
honest with you, I would be guessing at best.
Speaker 1 (02:18:17):
Guess what if you only know one horse? Dan, I
think we'll skip on the predictions for fair enough, have
some fun with it, but we won't make you pick
your five favorite horses.
Speaker 5 (02:18:25):
There we go, fair enough, fair enough. I like that idea.
Thank you, Gordy, you're the best.
Speaker 1 (02:18:29):
Play Cordie. Appreciate it, body all right?
Speaker 7 (02:18:32):
See his son and Chuck went away in on the conversation,
bring you guys in. Also, sometime during this hour, I
think that one group of people are looking at this
guy the wrong way and one guy is looking at
him the right way. We'll discuss all of that right here.
It is the Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
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This is all green.
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Greening for three continues Now Sports Talk seven ninety for
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Speaker 7 (02:20:33):
Talk to many different things today, but we've also talked
a lot of Rockets, and that's where Hassan at once
to go, Hassan, good.
Speaker 5 (02:20:39):
Morning, Hey, good morning, Sean.
Speaker 3 (02:20:42):
How are you.
Speaker 5 (02:20:44):
Sean's here? It's Dan too. What's going on, buddy?
Speaker 15 (02:20:47):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (02:20:47):
Man, So, I don't know.
Speaker 17 (02:20:50):
I kind of go back and forth with this with
this Rockets team during this Warriors series. You know, there's
there's games like Games three and four where I look
at how we perform and I'm just like, man, we're
so close. We need that guy, We need that closer,
and you know, that's where we got to make a
move this offseason. But then there's games like you know yesterday,
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where we just come out and you know, have some
of the young guys like Amon Thompson where he just
kind of goes off and just collectively we look amazing
as a group. And so I mean, I just I expect,
you know, us to lose Friday, just given the circumstances,
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and I know there's gonna be some overreactions by you know,
just Rockets fans, and I don't know, I kind of
want to see what's your opinion on, like what kind
of direction this team should take in the offseason. Do
we need to go out there and make a move,
you know, with you know, the whole talks with Kevin
Durant and then potentially Yannis being available given you know,
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the state of the Bucks. Yeah, I just want to
know what you guys, I mean, what you think the
direction that the Rockets should take this offseason.
Speaker 5 (02:22:08):
Hey, I appreciate the call, Hasan.
Speaker 7 (02:22:09):
I mean, Sean, We'll do the offseason talk when it
becomes the off season, because I disagree with this on
on Tomorrow night. I think the Rockets feel like that
they left money on the table last time they were
out there, and I think last night kind of rejuvenated
them to believe, yeah, hey, we can send this back
to Sunday.
Speaker 1 (02:22:29):
Yeah. Oh, I give them a legitimate shot to win.
I would if I was a betting man, and I am,
but if I was betting against him, which I won't
advantage Golden State. They'll be well rested. They got a
message sent to them. They're going back to their building.
And in the middle of, you know, third quarter. I
think that Steve Kerr conceded because the Rockets kicked their
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ass and said, I'm not going to try to chase
this down. I'll see you in game six. I think
that was obvious but brought on to them by the Rockets.
And this game's within five point Steph Curry's not sitting
on a bench and they don't empty the benches in
the middle of the third quarter. But so that part,
I give him a chance. I'm not already. I mean,
I've not conceded the fact that they're done in game six,
but I think he's My guess is that he's talking
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about how will you feel they've done some good things?
How will you feel you know, is it ruin your
season if they get beaten game six, Well, it'll be frustrated,
and then obviously it changes your paradigms and shifts them
how you approach the off season. So I do give
him a legitimate shot, but I'd give it advantage to
gold State just because it's at home and they you know,
taking two ass kickings in a row for a good
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team is not normal for Gold States. So we'll see.
But as far as the off season, real quick, Dan,
I'm not making wholesale changes to make them. I'm just not.
Now there are the outliers. If you're telling me that
they would be in play for Giannis, I have to listen. Yes,
I absolutely have to listen. If you're telling me KD.
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I'm listening, but not as hard as I'm listening with Uh.
With Giannis different to me, it's a difference right now,
I'm not listening to hard. But Okay, what is exactly
you want? If you get the KD, what exactly do
you want? What he can sell you? We know he
can score, but Giannis is a bigger to me, is
a bigger fish. That's a bigger catch for me at
this stage of their careers. So yeah, I don't care
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who I'm on. If you're the Lakers and you're not
in on Giannis, antetokoopo, after which what goes on inside
the paint? You're an idiot. If if they don't, if
they don't jump through the roof to try and get
in on that frame, they're nuts. The Rockets definitely, if
you have a need, If you don't even have a need,
you're listening because of that guy. So I get it,
and I would. I don't care if the Rockets win
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the series. If the Rockets win the series and Jalen
goes forty forty the next two games, I'm still listening
to everything. Doesn't mean I'm running Jail out my point,
because he's been the center focus of this and they've
done a good job of shutting him down. So I'm listening.
This is this is one of the rare cats. You say, oh,
we got three receivers, Randy Moss is available. Oh I'm interested.
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It's to say that that that that's exactly right. Well,
I love a wealth of riches and an embarrassment of
them and greed, greedy they They may need that closer
and it may be that very guy, but I'm not
just going out to get bodies that are a lateral move.
Because the guy's young and had a bad playoff series,
and I am looking to improve my team. I'm like
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this way I am every time every day I come
to work as a front office or a coach, I'm
looking to find somebody better than you, meaning a guy
I just am. I'm always in search of or listening
to find it. If somebody's better than the guys I got,
and my players are going to know. I mean, I'm
not out searching and throwing you under the bus, but
I am anything that makes my roster better. I'm listening
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just like the other way around. If I if my
coach or if if if they're not, then I got
to replace him. And if a coach, I'm always looking for,
is there somebody who who elevates the room better as
a coach? We found him period, you got him here
and you with Udoka, and so you're looking and if
you can't replace him, then good, you've hit it right.
But and if I'm the player, I'm always looking to
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put it make it miserable on you for to replace me.
That's the whole goal on both sides. It's not the derogatory.
It's the way you're trying to do it. It's not
if it's not mean I gotta get me. I gotta
get the roster that's best for me, and Yannis makes
your roster better. So if he is available, and if
the Rockets were in play, you're damn right. If the
Rockets win the NBA Championship, Dan and the honis is available,
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I'm listening just so you know, because he will make
my team better. Teams that stand pat even after winning
are stupid, and good teams don't. They're still changing rosters.
So I give him a chance to beat Golden State,
for sure. But I'm visiting the honest thing. If if,
if it's allowed, if he's going to be if they're
going to put him out there, you're damn right I am,
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even if I win the whole. Because he's an outlier,
it's a different cap. Well, see the Astros in twenty
eighteen after they just won the World Series. You go
get Garrett there, you go there, you go. Well, and
see the Astros when they had all that pitching and
gave up five assets for Zach Grinky. Yeah, So I'm
always looking to find somebody better, not in search of
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the embarrassing, but I am looking, and I'm listening at all.
And if I'm the player, I'm gonna make it hard
on you to do that to me. So yeah, Dan,
I listen, and we will address the off season more
of the first focuses. Can they muster it up again
like they did in Game five?
Speaker 7 (02:27:34):
Well, I mean to your point, you get forty and
forty out of Jalen in two games, well then absolutely
you're winning that because we've laid out the numbers. When
he goes north of thirty, they're I think fourteen.
Speaker 5 (02:27:46):
And one this season.
Speaker 7 (02:27:47):
They don't lose the game is more of the way
to look at it. So hopefully they are able to
get that out of him. Eleven points from him last night,
so you'd love to be able to see that. Chuck
c you right there, will squeeze you into the conversation. Also,
to Sean, if we have time next segment, I do
want to get into one of the most insufferable people
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But the Sean Salisbury Show continued. They're on the phone
lines as Chuck has been waiting patiently in the Woodlands. Chuck,
good morning, good morning, great show as usual.
Speaker 5 (02:30:35):
Thanks.
Speaker 9 (02:30:36):
I have to comment on the Rockets real quick. We
got down three games to one by shooting like fifty
eight percent from the free throw line. So I have
hope we can win both games by a point if
we hit eight out of ten. The reason I called Brightman,
I recall, my memory's failing me, but I thought he
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was zero for sixty or oh for eighty as a rookie,
and everybody wanted grit him, and then the mccollor's pulling
for mccollors. But the weather is is it going to
be in the upper forties twenty five min our wing
gust and rain right now? And I hope he doesn't
have to pitch in that weather.
Speaker 5 (02:31:12):
I appreciate it all, all right. I appreciate that call. Suck.
Speaker 1 (02:31:15):
Yeah that you know, good point Dan about the weather
with the colors. And we'll see how he deals, hopefully,
you know, in truth, forty five now depend on the way,
but forty five to fifty degree weather, when you warm up,
it's kind of that's kind of a pleasant you know
what I'm saying that that's in my opinion, that's because
all the work you're doing, it adds a little bit
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of respite for it. But we'll see, and his adrenaline
is going to be pumping so much. I'm not. He
could be twenty below. I'm probably I'm not sure he'd
even care with the way it's going, but but it
is a point well taken.
Speaker 18 (02:31:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:31:47):
I don't know if Bregman was oh for eighty, but
he wasn't very good to start. And we told you
Kyle Tucker was hitting in the what one forties his
first sixty four to sixty five at bats. So the
camp Smith things won't be okay, it happens to most
of them. Ted Williams, Tony Gwynn. Just don't fall off
a turn up truck and land in your lap to say, hell,
I would imagine we go through though. Those two guys
had their struggles at some point in time, and Mickey
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Mantle as well, so we probably we always have high
expectations because the hype that's created by all of us,
and then when somebody goes in it's two twenty five,
we're like, well, what the hell's wrong? Well, what's wrong
is the pitchers are pretty good and you're called a
rookie that hadn't faced this kind of stuff. I don't
want to hit a hook, you know, somebody's got a
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nasty ass three or four pitches and then pumps at one,
you know, up around ninety seven, ninety eight, ninety nine
miles an hour. That's hard, Okay, that's captain obvious statement.
So he's looking and learning, and remember he hasn't been
through two rosters where he gets to see the same
picture time and time again. This is all new to him.
Camp Smith's going to be fine. Let him learn on
the run. I like it right up here with the
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big boys.
Speaker 7 (02:32:51):
Yeah, I mean i'd have to go back and look
at what his first few games work Bregman that is.
But yeah, it wasn't oh for eighty. He wouldn't have
even gotten oh for forty at that point. But U
and he's on fire this year, brother man. He is
having the best start of his brigging career.
Speaker 17 (02:33:07):
He is.
Speaker 1 (02:33:08):
We got a great text, I mean from I think
it came through yesterday Dan talking about Bregman real quick.
We don't have to spend a lot of time on
it because I know you got to get to the
insufferable one here.
Speaker 12 (02:33:18):
But that.
Speaker 1 (02:33:21):
The way that Bregman's playing long ball home, I mean
he's in batting average, slugging percentage on basersage. This looks
like twenty nineteen Alex Bregman, and it start fast. So
now what's the whole season going to look like when
a guy starts this fast. Well, he's proven it right now.
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I'm trying to find that.
Speaker 5 (02:33:44):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (02:33:44):
I don't know if I can find it, but his
start right now has been about as impressive as it
gets for him, regardless. I think everybody knows the numbers.
I'm not telling you anything you don't know, but he
has started off well. So even guys like him can
have slow starts all of it career, but even as
a rookie, it happens.
Speaker 7 (02:34:01):
Hey, we got east Sock petis here all right. He's
making diving stops over at third base like he did yesterday,
playing really well. Yeah he is, you know, put putting
the ball into the Crawford boxes. I mean, put some
respect on each sock's name.
Speaker 1 (02:34:12):
Man.
Speaker 5 (02:34:13):
That's that's what the Astros have done so far. Andy
wants to weigh in.
Speaker 18 (02:34:16):
Andy, Good morning, Hey, Sean. You know, yeah, optimism about
Lance mccullis, But let's get your own record for a second.
In the last three years, he's pitched forty seven innings
and he's made fifty million dollars. He's paid over him
for his production a million dollars over a million dollars
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an inning. So if I had to tell you or
ask you, what's he over and under? How many starts
he has this year? Where are you gonna where are
you gonna put that?
Speaker 1 (02:34:53):
Well, if he's healthy? Is that what we're asking now?
That part I do.
Speaker 18 (02:34:58):
No, I'm just asking what's it gonna be?
Speaker 1 (02:35:01):
I mean from here on, let's see, what are we about?
Thirty games around there somewhere in there, thirty games in
something like that. I'm gonna say that.
Speaker 5 (02:35:15):
Fifteen and I was gonna go twenty.
Speaker 1 (02:35:19):
Fifteen, eighteen stars.
Speaker 18 (02:35:21):
I'm gonna say less than ten. I mean, it's just
the history, his his history. There's something I don't know
where his mechanics inside his arm because he throws so
many breaking balls. I don't know what it is, but
it just seems like he's always getting hurt.
Speaker 5 (02:35:40):
So then why did you ask the question? If you
already had your answer?
Speaker 18 (02:35:45):
I wanted to hear what Sun wanted to say.
Speaker 1 (02:35:48):
Okay, yeah, yeah, any I'm not dead set on my part.
High I'm not because at one point I was wondering
if Lance would start a game here again. You know,
I think we all did with all the injuries. Maybe
that's maybe for me, it's more of the emotion, like
I'm pulling for it, and you're right about the money,
and I know he doesn't want to be hurt. But
if he does give you Dan your twenty starts, then
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then we got a good thing. And then mccullors looks
through it and now I don't know what back is,
but then that means he's pitching well. So, Andy, it's
a valid question because of the history. Let's hope the
history doesn't repeat itself this year. I'm hoping for fifteen.
Maybe I'm optimistic, but and I am anxious to see
what it looks like. And I'm sure you are too, Andy,
regardless of the money, you know, the injuries have been
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a bummer, and he gets a chance to do it again.
So we'll see if he gets to seize this man.
Speaker 7 (02:36:39):
Yeah, I mean, and I do think if he does
run into another long term injury, I mean, Sean, I
think at that point it's got to be at the
very least. And I know he shot it down about
the bullpen, but I mean, you've got to give yourself
a chance, man, if that happens. But I mean, if
it's he misses a start here or there, then I
think there's a huge reason why they've handled him the
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way that they have is to be able to try
to make sure you do get the most longevity out
of him this season. And I mean I think he
even threw out twenty or the you know, a spata
or somebody. I heard somebody throw out twenty twenty five.
So I was like, Okay, well, yeah, it's twenty five
starts for him. That hasn't happened in a long time.
Speaker 1 (02:37:17):
It's been a minute. So if he gets twenty five,
you should be doing somersaults and standing on your head.
That would be great. But I am with you on
you know, the way that they've approached it. But listen,
this is now on Lance the health, if he's able
to stay healthy, and how productive is he. Well, they
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wanted to be a starter. He wants to be a starter.
But we're going to see how the armholds up. If not,
at some point in time he may have to be
a bullpen guy. But right now it doesn't feel Dan
and we've talked like like they're even planning on that.
Dana Brown said as such that he's a starter, so
he's going to get a chance to prove it this weekend.
Speaker 7 (02:37:56):
Hopefully it's a good first impression for twenty twenty five,
that is for sure, Tony and angleton Ce, you're right
there also too. I mean, we can't leave today without
throwing this in here because I love when insufferable people
fall flat on their face. We'll let you hear from
them next right here, Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 3 (02:38:14):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show, sales show.
Speaker 5 (02:38:18):
That's dutiful, Sean.
Speaker 7 (02:38:21):
I don't think I've had a chance to discuss JJ
Reddick with you very much, but not a fan whatsoever
his very first press conference, because I always love the
people who have to yell at you and tell you
I don't give an f And he did it twice
during that press conference, where usually when I hear people
say that, I'm like, oh, you care too much, that's
the problem. Like you're trying to tell yourself that you
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know you don't care what people say about you, But
you telling me that tells me that you care more
than you are leading on at the moment. But last night,
after Game four, it was that the Timberwolves went up.
Speaker 5 (02:38:58):
Three to one.
Speaker 7 (02:38:59):
You had the duo of Lebron and Luca I think
played all forty eight minutes of that game. And before
yesterday's game five, JJ Reddick asked by a reporter about
how he handles substitutions, and let's just say, mister arrogant
duke boy decided to be just exactly that.
Speaker 2 (02:39:19):
I'm sorry, I've an.
Speaker 1 (02:39:20):
Experienced How was ma an experienced decision that I've made?
Speaker 10 (02:39:24):
You think I don't talk to my assistance about substitutions
every single time round?
Speaker 17 (02:39:28):
No, I just think there's a lot of coaches ling
on the assistants in those situation, as.
Speaker 14 (02:39:33):
Do every single time.
Speaker 5 (02:39:36):
That's a weird social.
Speaker 7 (02:39:39):
And then he just gets up and walks off acting
like he's won you know, three or four NBA titles
and he's got all the answers and that, you know,
everybody else is just dumb for questioning anything he does
as head coach.
Speaker 5 (02:39:50):
Let me tell you something. You're the head coach of
the Lakers.
Speaker 7 (02:39:52):
You're going to be questioned about your decisions and if
you can't handle it, and these are reactions that you're
going to continue to have, JJ, I got I tell
you it's going to be a short stay for you.
Speaker 5 (02:40:02):
Out there in l A. I hope you were in it.
Speaker 1 (02:40:03):
He did not buy well for the guy who went
on a broadcast who when he was on television was
was all over people who are soft minded, and we're
all over people who you know did that, you know,
gave an opinion and asked questions, and he asked questions
and he's in the media. How soon he forgot right,
you're the Lakers head coach. They're going to ask you.
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And when you have to constantly it's like the person
who wants to constantly tell you that they're Yeah, man,
I'm a good person on this, on this.
Speaker 5 (02:40:32):
On this, that I'm doing work.
Speaker 1 (02:40:36):
Yeah great, Well okay, then then I guess you need
to prove to us that you're quite frankly, maybe not
be doing good work and you're not working hard, but
you're trying to convince me when you're doing it. You
don't have to tell us. Of course you care what
they think, or you wouldn't be bringing up I don't care,
but I haven't listen. He cares far more than they think.
And as a Lakers coach, I mean, you're gonna get
asked questions even when you're winning the expectations in Los
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Angeles have always been high, So you take the job,
you better understand what goes with it. J. J. Reddick's
done some good things and he's done some questionable things.
And Rudy Gobert destroyed them last night. I mean he
completely dismantled them. And for a guy, I'm just gonna
leave it at this because Lebron's been fantastic. Just stop
the close out games and stuff between Lebron and Michael Can.
Speaker 5 (02:41:19):
We just leave it alone?
Speaker 1 (02:41:20):
Leave it alone? Did he gate? Let me ask you this,
and I'm a diehard, lifelong Laker fan, but in game
let's say Game four, did did how many points of
Lebron score in the fourth quarter?
Speaker 5 (02:41:34):
I don't have to go back and look at the court?
Speaker 18 (02:41:36):
Did he?
Speaker 1 (02:41:36):
Did he score? Regardless, I'm just throwing stuff out. And
last night he saw a close out. This is not
just Lebron, don't misunderstand me. It's just the constant Well
he's this guy, but another opportunity down three to one
to take over a game and didn't take it over.
He didn't play great last night. So he's had a
marvelous career and he's in the team picture of conversation
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with all the greats, but the constant is he is
he is?
Speaker 17 (02:41:59):
He?
Speaker 1 (02:41:59):
No, he's actually not, So we can stop that there.
And with JJ Reddick, you're right, it's a little bit.
It's kind of maddening or fatiguing that he gets a
little uptight when you question him when things aren't going good. Right, Dan,
as as your point, and so he does care he's
going to get questioned. And let's not forget you were
in the media asking those questions that you wanted answers
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to and now you're the coach. Guess what you're expected
to give him. Now you can be uptight and pissed
what they all are. We all get to that point,
but they're not going away. And they're sure as they're
not going to go away after getting swept by a
team that you weren't supposed to get beat by, and
in huge fashion in this series as well. And Edwards
wasn't the best player on the floor.
Speaker 7 (02:42:40):
Last night, Go Bear was and the cherry on top
of all this, Speaking of Edwards, I threw this out
on Twitter that he is the star that this league needs.
He's walking out of the arena last night going through
where they have the marquee there in the bowels of
Crypto dot Com Arena and he's going ant Man, Batman,
super Man, Lakers in five like as to like make sure,
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you know, make fun of everybody that was doing that.
And on top of it, he decided before getting on
the team bus to take a victory lap around Crypto
dot Com Arena.
Speaker 5 (02:43:10):
I just love it.
Speaker 1 (02:43:11):
I love every love the kid's energy. Yees yes, and
at the expense of the team I grew up loving,
but I did it, didn't bother. I love his energy,
I love the way he plays, and he's got a
fantastic future and it was it was a really fun watch,
not only to watch him this kid, how he's developed,
but like you said, that last night put a smile
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on my face. Even if it's against the team. I
like seeing, you know, sometimes it's okay to see it.
And I, like I said, Biscuit and I are probably
tripping because he's a Laker guy too, but above me out.
But they were manhandled in the series, so we can't
make excuses for him. They were manhandled. Dan. Let's also
before we go, did you see the guy fall out
of the stands in Pittsburgh? Did dude now I don't
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know did he fall, was it accidental?
Speaker 5 (02:43:54):
Did he do it on purpot like?
Speaker 1 (02:43:56):
Was it suicidal? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:43:58):
It so there's I mean, of course unconfirmed.
Speaker 1 (02:44:01):
But somebody, I hate to even mention the word, but
it looks so odd.
Speaker 5 (02:44:04):
Right, I mean, and that's the thing.
Speaker 7 (02:44:06):
I mean, I see the video and it looks like
like he just like straight up like leapt like I
was like, I didn't even look like, you know, hey
he got up really quick, lost his balance, fell over
anything like that.
Speaker 5 (02:44:16):
But I mean, just what an awful situation.
Speaker 1 (02:44:19):
Oh, it's horrible. Do we have any update on that?
D Does anybody seen it?
Speaker 5 (02:44:21):
I have not, Yeah, I haven't either.
Speaker 7 (02:44:23):
I mean I think I was an ugly looking critical condition,
which I mean, you know, he took a twenty foot
fall right there.
Speaker 5 (02:44:29):
You can imagine that's the case.
Speaker 1 (02:44:31):
It was gut wrenching to watch, you know what it
looked like. And I do not mean this in a
a comedic way. I'm not trying to make this. It's
not funny from a distance. Did you ever see the
movie Weekend at Bernie's? Yeah, you know, you know how
and then when he when he was when he when
he you know, they and it was a comedy, but
this isn't cold to buy how how just the it
(02:44:51):
just looked like it was like right out of a
Oh come on, that can't be true, right.
Speaker 5 (02:44:55):
Like almost like it was a dummy, right, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (02:44:58):
What That's what I'm talking about, because in that it
looked like that from a distance and you're like what
and then you start to look at and you say,
oh my gosh, it was gut wrenching. I don't you know,
you never want anybody to feel that hopeless that they
do that if if that was the case, but if
it was accidental, what have you? What an awful scene
to be to see that. It was terrible and I hope,
(02:45:18):
I hope the recovery a full recovery, but it didn't
look good. And obviously if it's in critic if it's
a he, I'm a so I think it was a
he is in critical condition, that's a that That was
a very gut wrenching to watch.
Speaker 7 (02:45:31):
No doubt about it. Definitely hope we get some good
news on him. But now, I mean I saw that
video and was just like, oh my god, like it's
one of those and you know, whenever I see videos
like that or like, you know, somebody like walking like
on heights, like on the top of a building, like yesterday,
somebody on the Bay Bridge like scaling the side.
Speaker 5 (02:45:49):
I'm just like, oh God, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (02:45:51):
Man?
Speaker 5 (02:45:51):
Like it gives me the he bgb's and I'm not
even in the situation.
Speaker 1 (02:45:54):
Yeah, it's it's a. It's a. It was bad optics,
but obviously the let's hope there was alt's better than
what it looked like and then everything's gonna be okay.
But what a what a gut wrenching scene that.
Speaker 7 (02:46:05):
Was absolutely well. The result of this one, I'd say,
Sean was a pretty good one. A lot of fun, buddy.
We'll do it again on a Friday to send us
into the weekend as we'll be talking to Game six
and yep.
Speaker 1 (02:46:16):
Yeah, go Astros. I know they're off today, but I'm
just giving them a little extra love at Lance mc colors.
I hope it's a rewarding start for him this weekend,
but we'll discuss that tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (02:46:25):
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Is to Laurow, a man snails it from him to Fred.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Four on one Fred bounce pass on the trail to Thompson,
blocked by Post, gets his own rebound, puts it up
his stars and he's found with a chance at the three.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
Point play grabbed in midair by Brooks.
Speaker 6 (00:40):
Brooks going against Butler, turns it back out left van
Lee twenty seven feet and.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
That's nothing, but not.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
On ten in the corner for Fred and his third
three rockets up by eighteen.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
It's Green against Loony down the lane, kicks a baseline
right setting firing.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
And heading up Hoorray.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
It's tiring Ethans into twenty eight point lead at fifty
two to twenty four Eathan screened by Adams down the lane,
high off the window and in for two five in
er owd for Tarre thirty point lead. Eighteen consecutive rocket
points curry.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
Across mit court met there by a men Thompson.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Another steal for a man Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Down? On me the lane and a chareble right hand
and he's found for behind a silly silly found on
Jimmy Butler and an opportunity for a three point play.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
The make was by Moody, who finishes with twenty five.
But ladies and gentlemen inside Tote Center.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
It is a rackets playoff win, and these two teams are.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
Headed back to San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Final score Houston one thirty one, Golden State one sixteen.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Tomorrow there is tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (02:02):
How about that a Rocket's able to take care of business?
Last night you heard Matt Thomas just give you the
final score. And with all that we say away we
go in good morning here on the Sean.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Salisbury Show, Sean much Better. We liked that version much better.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Well do we? You know, I personally it looked to
me like Golden State was preparing for Game six. I'm sorry,
it just did. Now. Part of that Dan has got
to be the way the Rockets jumped out to put
it on him early. I actually think it was one
of those kind of test games. You saw the minutes
and the rest of it. One of those test games.
(02:41):
Let's see how we start and see how this thing
goes and then we'll get our guys fresh. We won't
zude too much energy after we get our ass handed
to us. Had they come out and been up by
the way the Rockets played against them, it might have
been a different story. But it almost felt to me like, Okay,
let's test it well, tonight's not our night, that's not
wear it out. And then the Rockets put it on
(03:01):
them and put their foot down. And that's without Jalen
Green dominating, and it's with Van Vliet and the whole
group doing their thing last night. And I'm gonna tell you,
look at the free throws. Just look at the free throws.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Massive difference there.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
They shot almost forty of them and made what thirty
two or thirty three? If I remember going to bed
last night, there you go thirty two or what thirty eight?
That's it. That's gonna win, that's gonna win games. It's
it's it's it's not it's not a whole you know,
there's other things to go along with and not letting
Butler and Steph Curry dominate a game and getting production
(03:36):
from you know, a bunch of people. And Fred looked
like a you know, a top notch player in the
NBA last night. It looked like a guy with playoff experience.
But they they gave Golden State everything, they everything that
they needed last night. And I had you know, we
talked about it yesterday and we were leaving the building
about you know, and at the end of the show
(03:56):
and threw out about the Rockets and that we felt
that they'd win this ballgame and head back. And it
was one of those that Golden State got a pretty
good feel early on that the Rockets came to play
and they were sharp from the free throw line. See,
it goes to show when you do this. Now it's
the teaser. You can't give us the fact that, well,
you know, they're just not a good free throw shooting team,
(04:16):
whether it's concentration or focus. Now, there's a lot more
that goes into this game. But it isn't it uncanny
how you say okay, even if you didn't watch going in,
the first thing you did was say, okay, look at
Butler and Curry's line, And then how they play shooting
free throws. The you know, the unforced air can you
go to the line, make them or miss them? What's
(04:37):
that damage due to either you or the other team?
If you're good or you're not at the line, and
that'll tell you the story of the game.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
It definitely just and it did.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, we just did.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
Yeah, it definitely did. And you know a couple of
things of what you just mentioned right there. I mean,
one is, you know, the the good what you mentioned
with the free throws thirty two of thirty fifty five
percent from the field.
Speaker 8 (05:02):
For the night.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
That was the next thing that might have even been
just as important the way they shot it, I mean
to interrupt you, Dan, was their their ability to knock
down high percentage of shots from a lot of different
places last night.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Yeah, that was massive.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
And you know the other part of it too, as
you mentioned, I mean, I do see what you're saying
about Steve Kerr saying, hey, look we've got a lifeline here.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
This night's just not going.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
It kind of reminded me of there was a regular
season game, I think it was the second to last
meeting these two teams had, and it was the shoe
was on the other foot. The rockets were the ones
that the starter is just getting blown out. Hemy Giudoka said,
you know what, why don't you guys take the rest
of the night off? And then you've got Jay Shawn Taate,
Nate Williams and Jock Landale and all these guys nearly
(05:45):
leading the Rockets back.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
And we kind of saw that too. I mean the
Rockets up.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
By I mean, what was their largest lead, thirty thirty
one something like that, and there with about nine minutes
left to go, it's down to like twelve, and you're
kind of like, oh my god, they're gonna have to
sweat this thing out.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I've never seen the white flag waved.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
And the other team says, okay, well, if they're taking
their guys out, we can take cars too. But then
you meet don't goad to quickly go back to his
guys and say, hey, heat pads, ice bags, don't put
them on just yet.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
You're going back out there.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, And I do. I think it was I swear
going in. I think it was a field game. I
think he was gonna Kerr was going to judge energy
wise and how they were playing, and what you were
getting out of Houston and your team and how it
was played out. And you saw a playout and then
you're just going, okay, just stay on reserve and we'll
see how it felt to me and that's not taking
(06:36):
away from the way the Rockets putting on them. I
think they were saying, okay, yeah, obviously they came in
to win. You try to get out of a series,
you won't rest. You're trying to get out of a
series as quickly as possible. But once it started to
flow the way the Rockets had intended, I think Steve
Kerr was not going to over exert, especially down thirty plus,
you aren't going to say the energy it's going to
(06:57):
take to get us back in with our starters and
win this game on the road for a team that
we handled it, you know, we got the series in control,
and what it would have taken for And think about it.
Now they've got they've got a few veterans to get
a little long in the tooth. Qualified players, but long
in the tooth. So let's test this thing and see
(07:19):
what it is. Hey, man, if you're in a four
hundred meter race and you're at the three hundred meter
mark and the guy's got you by forty meters, I'm
going to suggest that's right, and it's the quality, and
it's a qualifying heat and you just got to get
to the final run. You ain't trying to win the race.
At that point in time, you're just getting in safe
(07:39):
and healthy, so you have a chance to run in
the final. Were your last eight runners now four hundred meet,
I got that extra burst the energy. You try to
go too much. You still qualify, but you finished the
second the qualifying and you've sent that last hundred me
is just out of pride and ego, trying to chase
the guy down. And now you've exerted everything. So when
you get to the final, you finished sixth. Get it
(07:59):
looked them and maybe I'm wrong from somebody else's vantage point,
and I think it had to do with the Rockets
putting it on them early. Don't misunderstand me. If Golden
State's up fourteen, they're playing there, guys, you're getting they're
getting minutes, and they're going to go try to close
this thing out. But the way the game shaped up,
and you could see pretty early what was happening, with
the way that the Rockets were playing and knocking down
(08:20):
free throws and the way they were shooting the basketball
and playing on the defensive end, they did a hell
of a job of it, especially early in the game.
And to get that lead at that point in time,
I think Steve kurb made that decision of Okay, this
gets in within six or eight. Maybe it's a different story.
But and if you're right in the fourth quarter, I'm
sitting there watching thinking, okay, it started to close down
(08:40):
a little bit, but they were able to stave it off.
But I don't think that they were in there in
a huddle at a time out at the beginning of
the fourth quarter or in the third saying all right,
everybody back in, we're going to go try to win
this thing. Not saying they quit. But they paced themselves
late after the Rockets had put their foot on their
throat early, and it got to the point where saying
(09:01):
we're waiting for the you know, the final race, and
we're not. We're not. We're not meaning you know, I
qualified for this. Now we'll go back to Game six
and deal with you in our building with a full
amount of energy. Not did we over exceeded to still
lose by seven if that would have been the case,
I think that was a whether you like it or not,
it was. It was I think absolutely part of what
(09:22):
they were trying to do once they knew you're down
thirty plus, that's a lot of energy to get back
into it. Even if you say, well, the games are
never over, but imagine exerting all that energy, Dan, and
then the game's too You still get beat and now
you've got to go back and deal with game six.
And it's like, okay, man, it took a lot of effort.
You know, it just did so rockets. I mean it
(09:44):
was because of them. But I got news for you.
At Golden State, they'll be fresh legged ready to go
after that ass whooping. And it was for the most
part last night. And now you got to go back
in their building and see how it is. But impressive
effort shooting the basketball and the when they got free
out opportunities they knocked him out. Then they knocked free
throws down and that was a huge That's what I
(10:05):
was watching for him. How are you how's Jalen going
to play? And they were still able to overcome. But
look what happened. He did not He's had four or
three not real good games. Last night was I mean,
he got them. He got himself about seven eight rebounds,
so he played decent. He was in the plus category
in the game. He just didn't score like you used to.
And they still want, you know, handsomely why because the
(10:28):
other things we just talked about. They played defense, They
shot the basketball well, very well, and they knocked down
free throws and free opportunities, which thirty two of their
points came into free throw line. That's at thirty eight
you know, opportunities. So that was it, and then Golden
State decides, well, you know that decision was made in
the third quarter. I believe that I we'll see in
(10:49):
Game six.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Yeah, I mean, but for the good that the Rockets did.
You mentioned the defensive part of it, and you know
that's something we can talk about too as the show
goes along. I mean, that was the nice thing to see.
I thought that we saw a more free flowing team
last night. Like I think that we saw the team
that we saw fifty two times this year be able
to play really good basketball and be the team that's
(11:12):
the number two team in the West. So it was
nice to see that version as opposed to the oh
we're in the playoffs. This is different type of version
that I think we had seen for at least three
times in this series.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
So what dan it looked to me also just talking
about that, you know, we went into this saying, okay,
they got a couple veterans that have been in the
league for a minute, got a ring, meaning I mean
Fred van Vliet with his ring. My thought was, and
we talked about it, don't don't play not to lose
and too cute, and okay, that's that naive thing that
a lot of young players who've not been in a
(11:45):
playoff situation. I don't know what this is supposed to
look like. So to me, it's just another basketball game
at the gym, or series? Should I say and just
go let it rip? Well, I think they've been tentative
at times in this series. It's Golden State, it's oh
my gosh, it's you know, we're in the playoffs. We
haven't been in this situation a while. We're the two seed,
so it can be overwhelming. And also to the point
where you're playing not to lose, you're getting really fine
(12:08):
and cute, which you want to do, but you don't
want to be thinking about that. You just want that
to be natural. And we said going into last night,
let it rip. Man, you're not getting it done by
you know, trying to methodically and overthinking everything and standing
at the free throw line and bricking shots up and
going nineteen to thirty one. Last night, it looked like
a team that said, you know what, if we're going home,
(12:30):
we're going home on the terms that we are just
letting it rip and playing like a team that's got it.
It's relaxed and has the three to one lead, and
it showed last night. They looked like a young, energetic
team with some proper veteran leadership that did their thing
and got a lot of people into it on the
defense of an offensive end. And even when one of
(12:51):
your top scorers again for the five games, is hovering
around double digits, you know, eight nine, what you get
eleven or something last night whatever it was, so and
then everybody else did their job, and then you shot
free throw. So yeah, I thought last night not just
free flowing. I thought last night looked a lot more relaxed.
Whether that means you were in your building, but you've
got to bring that same energy in that same I
(13:12):
don't want to say you don't care about the result,
but there's something to be said for I don't care
about the result. It's it's the journey. Just enjoy along
the way. The result will take care of itself. We
do that, and it will take care of itself at
Golden State too. If they do the same thing, play
like they did last night, they can go into Golden
State and win in that building. And now and now
it's a whole different. We're looking a whole different coming
(13:34):
back for Game seven.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
Yeah, I mean, and that that was the other part
of it too. I mean, just you know, being able
to play the way that they did last night. And
you know, more importantly, Sean, you didn't get knocked out
in five. I mean, it's like I said, there's two
scenarios that are embarrassing for you in a playoff series.
You get swept or you lose in five. And the
Lakers can't say that because they got knocked out last night.
(13:57):
Paul Bracito, whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
What do you think about their performance?
Speaker 7 (14:02):
Well, it wasn't necessarily the performance. It was their head coach.
And that's something we're going to get into as the
show goes along. Because I am all the way out
on that guy. I have been, but this completely pushed
me off the edge last night.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So you're out on JJ Redd.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
He is such a d dude, Like I just I
can't deal with them. And you can take whatever interpretation
of d that is, and we'll let you hear from
him as the show continues. Well, also get into some astros.
They're off today, but they lost just day seven four
to the Tigers. So all of these things at your disposal,
John on the northwest side to see you right there.
(14:38):
We'll get to you here and we'll continue here on
the Sean Salisbury Show.
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Speaker 2 (15:19):
This is this Sean Salisbury Show, right, I mean, I think,
I think from the movie forty Year Old virgin. People
think that he's like always been on on his own,
and it's like, oh, he was in Adobie Brothers, Like
I fell for that trick.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, I'll go say, yeah he was a Doobie brother
That's what most people think. He was singing with Patty
LaBelle and their duet, you know when they're labbing. But yeah,
big time Doobie brother love.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Michael McDonald, Absolutely, I got me.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I mean I'm not. It's early and he's got me
blowing over here, you know, blowing pipes are already early
in the morning.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Fired up, that's it.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
We got the wirlitzer out, we got the keys going.
We're feeling good here. We're feeling good, especially because the
Rockets win at one thirty one, one sixteen.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Anytime you say warlots are the first day it comes
to my mind is Oregon at the ballpark?
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
You know what I'm saying. The warlitzer. Yeah, there you go,
and you you did a good job applying it to
a Mike McDonald cut. I like it. Oh, Michael McDonald,
there you go.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
It's I mean, it's it's incredibly It's required if you're
if you're going to have a yacht rock song, you
have to have a worlitzer.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
There's no doubt. But you uh, I mean, get the doobies,
we get the yacht you know the yacht rock early
you played the warlitzer card. I mean that's the way.
It's just whatever a full believes. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (16:36):
We're doing it right this morning. We're doing it right
at six twenty one in the morning. John and Billy
get to you guys in the second. But as mentioned,
Rockets stay alive. Game six tomorrow night. Lakers eliminated in five,
so uh see you guys later and the Astros off today.
But they beat the Tigers, or excuse me, they lose
to the Tigers yesterday seven to four and take two
(16:58):
out of three in that series. But Sean one thing
that was a storyline in the game last night. I
guess that one of the Warriors broadcasters, I don't know
if it was on their TV side, their radio side.
Apparently it's said on the air that they thought that
Dylan Brooks was intentionally going after Steph Curry's injured thumb.
And of course that was asked in the post game
(17:21):
as somebody as a matter of fact asked email Udoka
about it.
Speaker 9 (17:25):
One of the Warriors broadcasters tonight on the broadcast accused
Dylan Brooks of intentionally swiping it.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Stuff's at Curry's right thumb.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
How would you respond to that?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
If that's the response, I wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
You gotta love you me, Doka?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Oh dude, I do. How would you? I wouldn't, Yeah,
any simple, I wouldn't. Listen, gamesmanship happens all the time.
If I happen to swipe at the ball and hate
your thumb that you're dribbling with, guess what. Oh well
you know. I mean it's part of and I don't
you know, I don't nobody wants anybody hurt. Good gracious,
(18:06):
I get it. But I can tell you this on
the injury report. If I come into a game and
I have a left shoulder problem, that that that I
missed a quarter from the week before, right, and it's
a final quarter, and they throughout the week you're preparing
for a quarterback. I'm just excuse me. I'm using me
(18:27):
as an It doesn't matter if Tom Brady is we
know he's got a shoulder, he's been banged up, or
as Patrick Mahomes and the week before he missed the
fourth quarter because of a banged up shoulder, and you think, well,
is it dislocated? What's happened to MRI is negative? He's
got play next week. You find out during the week, Well,
let me ask you when you're when you're when when
(18:47):
you got an edge rusher coming to get you? Are
you are you? Are you hitting him high or hitting
him low?
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Are you hitting him take his legs out?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Oh I'm not. If I know he's got a shoulder,
I'm I'm hitting him. Yeah, that's where I'm hit. I'm not.
It's not a cheap shot. He's got shoulder pads. I'm
going I'm gonna go a little higher. If it's a knee,
I'm not diving with my helmet at his knee. But
you know what if you're if you're running back with
a thigh bruise, I mean a deep, deep thigh contusion
(19:15):
where it's like, man, that's one of those deep Charlie horses.
Can he take the punishment? They got it extra padded.
Or you think you're where you think you're attacking Dan,
I'm attacking right there. It's a it's blood in the
water and I'm the shark. I'm not going to hurt him.
But you know what, if you're playing and you've got
a broken thumb on a footprint on your throwing hand
and I and I'm coming in and I can get you,
I'm going up trying block and you're gonna hit your
(19:36):
thumb on my helmet, well I'm taking see you see
what I'm saying. It's not purposeful, it's not trying to
hurt him. But damn, do you want to play the
backup quarterback? You want to play the starter. If you're
playing one of those great player, you want to play
the start. You prefer to play the backup, meaning the defense.
So I don't even know deep down listen if it's true.
And I love the Doka's response like I don't, okay,
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But my point is, if I know I'm playing you
in one on one, Dan and you are your your
right hamstrings or bother something, or that's not a good example.
It's easier put in football. But if whatever the injury is,
if I got a chance to legally make you think
about it, or maybe you can miss the series or
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two because I hit him hard in the thought, what
am I supposed to elude your thigh because you had
a deep Charlie horse And if I had to hit
you there and you're gonna miss two series, that's just
called sports man, that's called sports There's no different than
hey man, the guy can't hit a high fastball, So
where are you throwing it. You ain't throwing it low.
You're going to try to attack him up in his zone.
The guy's shoulders bothered. Well, you know what, you're having
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to get a good hit up top and a legal hit.
I'm not saying you attack it. And if you're playing
defense on Steph Curry and he's got a thumb injury,
you're still swiping at the ball. Correct, You're still trying.
It's not like I got it down and you grab
it and bend it. So in truth, well, who's got
a problem with it?
Speaker 7 (20:58):
What?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
What kind of pussification are we talking about? If he's
playing and he's got a sore thumb, and I can
exploit the fact that he can't use it like he
wants to, and I could swipe at the ball and
I accidentally caught it, but I'm playing defense the way
I normally do. Now, some people may take offense that well, Shawn,
that's what unwritten rule. There's no unwritten rule. Hell oh oh,
what about the unwritten rule that says what Draymond woods
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his unwritten rule about kicking you in the ball exactly
and your balls aren't even hurting, Okay, so save that. Yeah,
that's exactly right. And even if dre even if Dylan
Brooks was swiping at the ball, and if he happened
to catch thumb, oh well, okay, and not against Steph,
against him, I would expect it. I would expect it
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as a player, damn, and I have. I went into
a game we were playing Stanford my sophomore year. We
were in Stanford against Elway and I had a bye
week after the game previous. It was a national televised
game sy Alway versus sc SI. It was one of
those you know, and John and I had been, you know,
the comparison's coming out of high school, all that stuff.
It was all week long and John Robbinson, my head coach, said,
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you wanted him this week, didn't you. I'll never forget
when he said it. When the game was over the
last series walking over to me on the sideland I
had a full one of those an ac like a
sprain in my ankle, and it was a severe one,
so I had to wrap it underneath and then I
had to spat wrap it. Going into the game, if
they were tackling me, I expected that that's where they
were going to hit me. You know, we were playing
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great football, we were undefeated, I mean all those things.
I expected that, and it was having a you know,
and we ended up playing great and winning and played
the whole game and beat him in their building, and
we our defense did a great job against John. My
point is, of course, that's where they're attacking, not with
a helmet and twisting it at the bottom of a pile.
Hopefully that happens too, but it was. It's called the man.
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I'm looking for every advantage, and it's tough enough to
beat Steph Curry. So if you're playing your fair game,
as long as it's not cheap or dirty. So but
I liked the imag's response, So if he was and
trying a little game, I don't have problem with it.
It's not dirty play. But people make a bill, well
you can't do that, well, then sit his ass on
the bench. Yeah, don't bring him out here. To me,
I'm playing defense. It's not dirty or illegal. But I
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also know that Steph Curry that's hampered or not is
sitting on a bench is far better to our team
than if Steph Curry's hitting us for forty five. So
even if he may said, yeah, you know what he's
attacking playing defense, the weakness for Steph is maybe a
sore thumb. What's the big deal? What we're oh, this
is a sacred cow. We can't attack him like we would.
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Would they even be saying it if it was the
backup guard who got thirty minutes to play last night.
Let's just say the backup because Steph was tired and
they rested him and they're down thirty and the backup
guard comes in play thirty minutes. Would they have said
it if the sore thumb was on the backup guard,
absolutely not, okay. And let's say he was having a
monster night. He had twenty five in the first half.
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We wouldn't be saying. Steph Curry starred Dylan Brooks this series.
And that's real rich for the Golden State people to
complain about somebody going after something if it really did,
if it did happen, if they thought that, which it's ridiculous.
But if it did that, that team last night, that
team never has a bitch about going after somebody and
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being cheap about it when they're great. But they got
a guy on their team who's notorious for it. So
and Dylan Brooks has got gamesmanship. I love Dudokah's answer.
I think they're full of it when it comes to that.
But even if they did. As a player, if you're
Steph Curry, you should have expected it. That's my thing.
You should have expected whatever they can do. If you're
a quarterback and you got to saw a ribcage, guess
where I'm hitting you right in the ribs legally, but
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I'm taking my shots at your ribcage with my shoulder
pads on a legal hit because if I can get
you over there and I can play Harry Hatchett asses
the backup quarterback, I got a better chance to win.
And anybody in Golden State or anywhere else who can't
handle that, screw them. Okay, the hell with them, and
Udoka good point. The bottom line is they got an
ass whooping last night. So you're looking for any narrative
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you can if you're a broadcast team to make an
excuse for your team that got their ass handed to them. Period.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
Yeah, self awareness is a skill and apparently they don't
really have that skill. And look, Sean, I say it
all the time. It's another one of my favorite things.
I'm not in this world to do you any favors.
I'm the hunted one here. So that's the way the
Rockets approached to last night.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
When you got that kind of success. Dan, you know,
if you're Golden State, you should be that without above
it's one. But should you are the hunted, you're you're
the even though you're the seventh seed, you're Golden State.
Who's hunted in the NFL, Kansas City Philadelphia Eagles are
going to be That's that's that's what happens when you're
the when you're the lead dog and you're out there
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and you're the rabbit. In this case, the dogs are chasing.
You better expect every little thing I can to get
ahead of you to get a chance to win. And
if it means your hands on the basketball and I'm
swiping for it and I get your thumb, guess what
deal with it or get the step in. That's just
the way it works for sure. Called sports Manly.
Speaker 7 (26:00):
John and Billy. See you guys right there. We'll get
you guys involved in the conversation. You want to join them.
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety. What's
gonna se one three two one two five seven ninety.
Continue with The Shawn Salisbury Show. The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Let's start it off this morning with John on the
Northwest Side. Good morning, John, Good morning.
Speaker 10 (26:23):
Good Uh, Yeah, I wanted to talk about the Rockets game.
I you know, I was happy to see them doing
what I was wanting them do, and that is they
were taking it to.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
The rack a lot last night, a lot more.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
And I think that's the key.
Speaker 10 (26:37):
They got to keep taking take advantage of their what
I think is their superior athleticism and just drive that ball.
They're picking up, you know, they're picking up fouls and
unfortunately they were hitting their foul shots.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
And I think that's the formula.
Speaker 10 (26:50):
They got to just keep driving and not get involved
like in a you know, a tick for tack, you know,
just a shootout with Golden Steak, because that's their game.
But ours is using our our athleticism and taking it
to the rack.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I mean, if we can do that.
Speaker 10 (27:05):
I think we're really tough, and then you know, if
they do a defense to to try to stop that specifically,
then we can kick it out and you know, that's
where somebody out to dribble, like Jalen Green or somebody
could hopefully rise to the occasion.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
But I liked I liked what I saw last night.
Speaker 10 (27:21):
Where they were like really driving it, being aggressive, and
it just it seemed like it made it more aggressive
and picked up the pace and the whole bit. I
think that's their game and that's what they got to
stick to. I wanted to comment on that.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
Yeah, yeah, I appreciate the call, John. I mean, Sean,
I got to agree with John right there where I mean,
that was something that I thought was a It was
an intentional attack last night by the Rockets. So if
you've seen so many different times in this series settling
mid range jumpers, maybe taking a bad three, whatever it is,
but this was a team that not only cutting to
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the basket, but also I mean you saw Alprin shingun
bodying dudes, Amen Thompson doing this same thing, Tarry Eason
doing the same thing, crashing the glass. Even though in
the fourth quarter that kind of seemed to taper off
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, they got a couple extra looks in the second,
you know, down the stretch in the fourth quarter some
effort plays by Golden State that a little chippy. Obviously
at the end, I can tell you this what what's
the weakness we said going into this, Shengoon's advantage and
inside right, that is, well, if it's his advantage, then
the weakness of the Golden State Warriors is what being
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defending the rim, right, So it only makes sense that
now you want to get in. If both teams are
shooting well, then it's fine. But if you're not shooting
well from you know, jump shot, either mid range or
long range jump shots? Whose advantage is that? In this series?
Normally any team with Steph Curry on it, right, Yeah,
that's so, I mean it's usually I know, they're more
a deeper team, meaning the Rockets aren't talented and young
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all that. But you start to think you started to
get in a long range shooting contest. Guess who the
best on the world is it doing that and has
been for the on their teeth right, So, but attacking
on the defensive end, now it's calculated risk because when
you do that and get to the free throw line,
which they did thirty eight times. Guess what happened. You
better knock them down. So the plan was masterful last
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night in your building. Take it to them, get to
the free throw line, let's concentrate, knock this thing out,
and go knock down thirty two to thirty eight free
throws and we'll go back to Golden State for Game six.
So they played into their strength last night. Attack the rim,
make sure that the weakness that you're attacking, you go
get it. And then now it's the opportunity of stand
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at the free throw line and knock them down, which
they did. So yeah, John's right, you're one hundred percent
correct and noticing it in the game. You don't have
to settle. We are in such in a league that
right now, heck, a guy could have a dunk and
you'd be up by one. You'd kick it out, so
somebody can try to knock down a three to go
up by two. You know what I'm saying. We got
did this full lobby. Obviously a bit hyperbolic, but you
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know what I'm talking about. That's the league we're in.
Last night, early in that game, to get a lead
and go at. It didn't appear to you like this
was old school basketball. Attack the rim. See if you
can get somebody in some trouble, get to the free
throw line, make your free throws, and defend on the
other end. And they did, and so it worked. Now
you know, you'll it's a different challenge and a different building.
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They're going to come out with all kinds of energy
because I can assure you this, they don't want Game seven.
They do not want Game seven, so meaning the Golden
State Warriors obviously coming back to that building. So yeah,
I thought I thought that not only did he may
put the right plan in and he's done it a
lot this year, but they executed it and that's the
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whole key. And you had a veteran playing at his
best at guard last night knocking down free throws. I
don't even I'm not sure Fred missed a free throw
last night. But attacking, knocking down shots and facilitating exactly
what they needed. They look like a different team, a
free flowing, relaxed team, but an aggressive one, and an
aggressive one at the rim where you didn't feel like
you had to get into it. And that's what happens
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when you got to chase Dan. When you when you're
playing from behind and in a sire's not in this
to be at any time, like in anything, what do
you do when you're playing from behind? The pressure to
be desperate to Oh, we got it, we got to
knock down these We have to shoot threes because we're
down twelve. It kind of like Golden State, right, you know,
He's like, how am I going to get back into this? Well,
let's we got We got to knock there, R three
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for there too, so we can We're gaining possessions and
points each time up and down the floor. The Rockets
weren't willing to let that happen last night, which was
a good thing. Sometimes you can win that way. You
can knock down long range shots, but you get better
looks when you're able to attack the rim, get them
to collapse, and then, as John said, you can kick
and do your thing or catch and shoot whatever it is.
And that looked like a two seed last night for
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the majority of the game. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
Fred Dillon and also Jabari Smith Junior all perfect from
the free throw line last night.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
And you mentioned it.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
The Rockets thirty two of thirty eight eighty four percent
we we like that version.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
A lot of games, buddy, That'll been a lot of games.
What of the difference? Didn't Golden State? I mean got
gold State out rebound in them last night and a
lot of that. You don't getting second chance points late,
but they did. If I'm not mistaken, I think digits right.
So with that and the Rockets Game four beat them
on the glass. So while rebounding in second chance points
and defensive rebounds are important, it came down to what's
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more important. Free looks at the free throw line. They
knocked in. They're knocking down a ton of them at
the free throw line in game five. And now you
come to our game four, Game five, you come and
take care of your business. The free throwing what a
seventh grade novel concept, right, make your free throws? Didn't
your coach tell you that when you were first Put
a basketball in your hand. Hey, hey, practice this at home.
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Put your left hand behind your right hand, behind your back,
and dribble with your left hand and keep your head up.
There's number one.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Two.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
We're in a position where the triple threat position where
you can dribble, pass, or shoot. On defense, it's ball
me you seeing bowl and by the way, free throw.
We've been hearing that since we the first time somebody
put a round ball in our hands, putting the ball
on the floor. Do this, make sure you don't give
up your dribble, hey, knock down free throws. Last night
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was seventh grade Swickly, Pennsylvania. Execute it. See, people don't
even know there's Swickly, Pennsylvania or Candido, California Opera. That
was Chuck Knox's. That was Chuck Knox's go to He's
from Pennsylvania. Chuck's like, hey, we're playing pro football here.
This isn't sixth grade Swickly, Pennsylvania junior high ball, you know.
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And so I've always used my whole life like sweet,
hey man, you remember back in Swickly. I ain't even
been to Swickly, but Chuck has so existed. That's exactly
what you do now. See we're teaching here too. But
the old listen, dad, play defense and shoot free throws
and get to the backboards and you know, jump out
and for all the things that we've been told to
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do for forty years is exactly I mean, you know,
since I was a kid. They they actually did last
night last night looked like fundamentally good sound basketball and
attack the Warriors at their weakness and give us our strengths.
And I thought the Houston Rockets did a really good
job of that, and then they were able to, you know,
stave off a somewhat late rally, if that's what you
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want to call it.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
By Golden State, no doubt about it, says the Rocket's
able to stay alive and force a game six tomorrow
night there in the Bay Area, Billy Chris See, you guys,
you want to join them there?
Speaker 5 (34:27):
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Speaker 1 (34:27):
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are talking there.
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Speaker 2 (36:40):
Back to Sean Salisbury. Good morning, Billy.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Hey, good morning guys. Sean.
Speaker 11 (36:49):
Just to make one more point about attacking a weakness.
If I'm pitching and you foul the ball off your foot,
guess what I'm coming down and in just to see
if you're willing to file another.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
One off that foot. Amen. Amen, you know if.
Speaker 11 (37:00):
I happened to hit that foot and you're on base,
guess what I'm gonna try?
Speaker 5 (37:03):
To pick you off to.
Speaker 11 (37:04):
Make you use that foot. So just a comment and
a question about Jalen Green.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I am.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
I'm a big fan.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
I am.
Speaker 11 (37:16):
I think the kid's got a great, huge ceiling. I
think the first two years of his career was wasted
with a that's not fair average coach. I don't think
he got the development that he needed in those first
two years, and Udok has really brought.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Him a long ways.
Speaker 11 (37:28):
But my concern is is he a regular season MVP
and a playoff dud.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
We saw that a little bit with Kyle Tucker.
Speaker 11 (37:38):
I think that's one of the things that might have
soured the Astros a little bit on sign and of
course the money was but on Tucker a little bit.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
But you need those guys.
Speaker 11 (37:47):
You have to have great players in the regular season
to get to the postseason, and then you have to
have people.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
That set up in the postseason.
Speaker 11 (37:54):
And if Jalen's not that guy, is it time to
move on now or do you wait a year to see?
And the question that I have is would you rather
have a regular season MVP and a playoff dud or
a regular season good to average or average to good
player and a guy that really steps up in the
postseason and I'll hang out listen. Thanks guys, great show.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
As always.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I appreciate Billy, Billy, thanks my man, And you're so
right on attack and dude fouling off your front foot,
there's no doubt I'm going after it again, I would
think from my vantage point, I'm just trying to put
myself Billy into your question, which is really really good.
I'm always taking the Robert or a playoff guy. I
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just am because think about Harden his whole career, MVP score,
get his shot whenever he wants it, can shoot from
the parking lot and beat you. What do we always
say parnished because he's not gonna wear a ring and
he did not play well the majority of time. Me
he played good games, but we hold the postseason against him, right,
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We just do, and in basketball even more so than
some because you know, we'll hit quarterbacks with we We
don't hit the right guard on a football team that
never won a Super Bowl, but we do hit the
quarterback Dan Marino or they were like, oh, man never
won a championship, but we almost say, but he deserved one.
It's almost a we feel sorry for Karl Malone or
we feel sorry for you know what I'm saying. I'm
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talking about that you get my Dan. We do with Marino.
Speaker 8 (39:29):
We have.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Steve Largent, my teammates like man Steve. We say a guy,
well he deserved one. Well, you only deserve one if
you win one, right, you only deserve one if you
win one. So but I do I feel bad for Dan.
And when he tells the stories about it, it's like Dan,
it makes you feel I mean, it's like and he
wasn't making excuses. So it's just But in basketball, because
the impact of one guy, we we don't feel sorry
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for him. We put it on them. It's on you. You
were the star. You should have taken it to another level.
So while we love and appreciate the MVP James Hard
maybe not love but appreciate his skill set, he's hampered
by the fact that it's like, well, you had the
ball in your hand, you're the ball dominant guy, and
you don't have a championship that will always follow him.
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It just will even more so than the guy that
you felt sorry for, just because basketball's got five guys
got the ball in hand stark and control games more
than any sport. And so I want the Jalen Green.
Now I wanted to you said, if you just said
bad in the regular season, I just said, well, I
don't know about that, because we may not get to
the playoffs. If your best scorer is a bad play
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but average good player, give me that guy that shines
in the postseason as opposed to the practice field regular
season all American who completely disappears in the postseason. I
want the guy we don't Robert Orri's regular season Robert
Orry was a good player, always a good player. Well,
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we describe big Shot Bob by his postseason shooting, his
ability to knock down shots and be clutch, and that's
that that's who he is. And the opposite is true
for the hard so and I think real quick, and
I know we want to get we got to get
one caller in real quick. Here, I will say this
to you, Dan and ability I. The other side is true.
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If that team is decided, that may take another year.
But if they have decided that this is who he is.
If this is who Jalen Green is and we don't
know it like Udoka and that that organization does, if
this is who he is, you have to open your
eyes and ear you have to take calls if this
is gonna be if this is his post, if this
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is what we're looking at over the course of a career.
Now you better be true, because he could go somewhere
and dominate the post. You better be sure. But if
you if you feel like there's no guarantee, but if
you feel like you're sure that that he's a more
regular season guy, that he's not built maybe the postseason
the way that some guys are, then you have absolutely
have to consider a different place for him. If that's
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how you feel. I don't know if that's how they feel.
So give me the clutch guy in the postseason who's
good in the regular season as opposed to, uh, really
really awful of the postseason but great in the regular season. Nah,
I want the guy when the rings on the line.
You give me that guy. I'll take him.
Speaker 7 (42:17):
Robert Rory pretty much the Jim laretz of the NBA.
You could say, yep, no doubt, because that was what
Larets did every single postseason, and the Astros found that out.
Unfortunately in ninety eight, Chris has promised, I'll get you
into the conversation here as we turn it over to
the seven o'clock hour here on the Seawan Salisbury Show.
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Speaker 7 (43:18):
Astros off today before they start up a weekend road
series with the White Sox.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
They lose yesterday.
Speaker 7 (43:24):
Seven to four, but we've been focusing mostly on the
Rockets here in the early going of the show, as
they are able to show up and show out last
night and able to continue their season at least for
one more day again. SEB one three two one two
five seven ninety. Chris, appreciate your patience, man, Good morning,
how you doing.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Good morning?
Speaker 8 (43:46):
Fellas being at the game last night, that's more of
the Rockets type of ball. I don't know why he
took them until backs against the Wall and then elimination
came to figure out. You're the much more athletic, younger team.
Why are you playing into the Warriors' hands. You're not
going to beat them in that type of shootout game
that they play, and they got the greatest shooter of
all time. They have the championship DNA of the last
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decade plus of winning many titles. They're Vetter related. You
know what they're going to do, especially in tight games
when you got playoff Jimmy on their side and obviously
the Goat and Curry, you're not going to beat them.
So if the Rockets lose this series, they got.
Speaker 12 (44:20):
To kick themselves. These guys.
Speaker 8 (44:21):
Honestly, they should have won both games on the road,
game Game three and Game four. Laten situation, Dylan Brooks,
you're a veteran. You can't foul Jimmy Butler on the
final play there. So as far as last night goes,
I love what they saw you use an athletic ability.
The Wars can't run with you, guys, so they wanted
to play that type of where they want to lure
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you into that shootout game. And luckily the Rockets control
the temple. Be physical with them because you're a better
defensive team as well. And Amen Thompson, I love when
he's flying all around the court. You guys were just
talking about Jalen Green to me, from what I've seen,
I think if he would accept his role like a
Derek White type. To me, Thompson and saying Gun are
the focal point of this Rockets team. If jam Green
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is in that defined role, like I said with Boston,
he could still be important your You're reason why they
win and you can still get your numbers. But I
just don't think he should be that guy. I think
U Delka's got to pound that into his head, saying
Gun and Thompson are the keys to our team, and
everybody else plays their roles around those two guys. Guys,
So I'm hoping if they could use this formult of guys,
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which is gonna be very tough because we know how
hard it is to win a close win and an
elimination game back, especially against the Warriors who have won
so many titles. I'm hoping they can use it. They've
shown they can, they just didn't make the plays at
the end to pull out the games. But if they can't, guys,
I feel good about Game seven back in TC. I
think the Rockets win it. So it's gonna be tough, guys,
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I hope they can pull it up. Man Friday Nay
is gonna be an incredibly tough task. We know the
Curry is gonna be locked in playoff, Jinny. If our
guys can play their roles and play them to their
best abilities, I think they can pull it out and
hopefully we'll be talking about a game seven back of
Sunday afternoon in PC because I think they win it.
So shout out to the fellas. Get it done then,
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and let's get it back to a game seven. Thanks
for what time, fellas.
Speaker 7 (46:10):
Hey, I appreciate it, Chris. I mean, you know, and
that's one thing too, Sean. You know the point that
Chris brings up that so many times watching this team
this year, that's it just almost kind of feels like
they feel pressured, they feel cornered, and let's just go
ahead and just throw up a three. Like no offensive sets,
no real organization. It's just kind of like panic shooting,
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and it's just like, that's not your team. You're not
going to shoot fifty five percent tomorrow night. You're you're
not going to like you cannot count on what you
had last night to be translated to tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
And why do we I mean, across the league? Maybe
it's just because of the way the NBA is now,
and we're happy here that it happened. But you know
when you say that, oh, that's old school basketball, you
can't do that now. You know, you'll hear people like
that did and weren't around when you could actually attack
the rim and bang and get after it and not
settle for mid range or long range jumpers. It's it's
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weird to me. I sometimes just playing basketball the way
it usually was meant to be played, when you got
a chance to get to the rim, get to the
rim if you got an easy three, but you don't
need to settle. I mean just all the little you know,
the things that go into you know, basketball, We've got
so caught up and I don't know if we call
it the social if it's a social media media era,
whatever it is, that it's okay to dominate somebody. Well,
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we got to shoot more threes, do you do you?
We got it? Yeah, when you shoot and we got
to knock them down. And there's nothing wrong with it.
I get it. But it's okay to win the old
fashioned way, man, It just is, And I quite frankly
think the teams need more of it. Well, why would
you when you inside a three, why not step back? Well,
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the metrics say, well, sometimes that little piece of paper
in your hands full of crap. Okay, And there's also
the side show that goes with taking somebody the rim.
It's like a football team. Let me this is the
best way I can compare this. When you play a
finesse team that throws for five hundred yards but gets
their ass kicked physically, they don't win regular old school
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Big twelve football, think about that. Mahomes couldn't win in college.
They weren't very good. They put up seven hundred yards offense.
He goes to the pros, they change. We knew he's
a great player. Talking about the over. I'm just not
even putting this on Mahomes, just that Big twelve score
forty five and give up fifty. My USC team with
Caleb Williams. Finesse teams don't move anybody's need. They look good.
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It's fun, it's cosmetic. There's no substance there. I'm just
telling you there's not. And playing on teams when we
play finesse and get our ass, kids, you walked out
the field embarrassed. Embarrassed. Yeah, but we threw for five
hundred yeah, but you know what that's like the boxer
who can't get in there and take body blows, but
swing flails away and knocks a guy out, and we're like, oh,
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look out, great is then the next fifteen fights he
gets his ass handed to him because he doesn't know
how to be physical. And that's to me, attacking the
rim is that physical nature. Finesse teams don't win championships.
They just don't in any sport. So it is it's
that finesse team looks real pretty old school big twelve football. Man,
it was awesome. Two guys through for six hundred yards,
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but they don't have anything to show for it at
the end of the year. So in basketball too, man, Bud,
you see how good they are three point shooting? Yeah, man,
awesome long range jumper. How to turn out? Well, they
lost by twelve. Well what happened? Well, they didn't get
to the offensive glass. They shoot free those. But man,
they left too many on the table because they didn't
attack the rim, or didn't get in there and mix
it up and get you know, some putbacks and some
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easy ones. Right, So it is we seemed that all
the optics, the pleasure for the eyes is that long range. Man,
it's cool, but that's not how basketball was set up.
It's just not. Now it's an add to the game,
and it's an addendum to you know, an addendum to
the contract of Okay, we've added this stuff, this long range,
perimeter metrics, shoot more threes and you'll have a chance, right,
(50:05):
I see it. But you know what, sometimes it just
doesn't work. I know this that the team's Philadelphia was
more physical than Kansas City. They did the finesse things
went necessary, but they beat them into the ground physically,
and last night the physical nature of attacking the rim
and not settling was different. And it's okay to do that.
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Sometimes you got to be a finesse team to get
back into it. But I'm just telling you, you got
to be at a shoot. But I'm constantly wonder why,
Oh well, if it worked and it can't work, if
it worked in nineteen ninety seven and it can't work now,
well it sure can. Yeah. So for me, it looked
they were not a big twelve team last night. I'm
talking about old school big twelve football where you look
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good and score fifty but the other team scores fifty five.
Last night, This looked like, you know what, we're going
to beat you the old fashioned way, and then we'll
when we got the big playability, we'll knockdown threes. And
that was to me. It just looked different last night
optics wise, and the result showed that it was a
different basketball team last night.
Speaker 7 (51:08):
Well, I mean it's it's almost kind of like the
early twenty tens Alabama. You know, where the offense it
wasn't sexy. They would run the football when they needed to.
It was one of those Hey, you got third and
two right here to be able to win the game. Well,
you know what we're going to do. We're gonna run
it on you. Maybe every once in a while, hit
you with a play action. You know, you got a
Marii Cooper down the field. See you know you'll have
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Aj mcchaeron hit that like. That's that brand of football
doesn't necessarily it's not played as much anymore, but at
least you knew that one way or another.
Speaker 5 (51:40):
We're kind of like a bow constrictor we'll get.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
You the aberration. Dan Is Joe Burrows LSU teams offensively.
You score eight million points, You've got the best quarterback
in the country, but don't be misled. While they threw
it all over, they ran it, not the old school
left miles of play defense. You know three you know,
run it three times and win nine to six. Okay,
(52:04):
I get it. And that's that's when it all comes together.
We got these great receivers, we got this quarterback, our
defense plays well, and oh, by the way, our quarterback
the ball didn't hit the ground. But you know what
was tough about that team too, They protected the passer.
Joe played upright. There's a physicalities that you are not
getting anywhere near him. She's made their run game better
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and an epic offense. So that's the outlier when you
have everything work and it's like, okay, those teams go
win championships and that's what they did. So, but give
me physical over finesse all the time. And then when
the big play wide open deep balls there on football,
you got to make the throw. Those are the ones
you got to make last night, when the three gives
you an open look and you kick it back out,
you got to knock it down. And when you're staying
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with the free throw and you got to make them.
And they did that part of it. But there was
a different sense of physicality. Hey, when the Warriors were winning,
when they won championships, well, we know that the three
point shooting and long range stuff they got after it,
Draymond Green added a physical nature to him that it's
what works. Meant when when Milwaukee beat the Suns, physical
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Giannis attacked the rim for for the rest of the
series and they took over. It happens all the time,
and it's okay to play a little eighties basketball mixed
in with twenty twenty five basketball, and when you're that
talented and athletic. They showed him something that well that
quite frankly, Golden State needed to see last night to say,
oh a little bit of humble pie. And now Golden
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State's KG and all that stuff, and they're going to
have their chance in Game six. But this was a
Rockets team that's the second seed last night. That's what
it looked like.
Speaker 7 (53:39):
Yeah, definitely, And I mean, you know, it's the part
of this team that we knew they do have. It's
the offensive end that at times we've wondered, hey, did
they have that last night?
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Did you think about this? Dan real quick?
Speaker 5 (53:50):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (53:51):
Going into if I had told you that your your
calling card this year is going to be your ability,
young and energetic. Obviously, the culture of the coach and
how it's going to change is going to be stops
and defense. When's the last time you heard that about
Rockets team? When Elijah Wan.
Speaker 5 (54:07):
Was here, I was gonna say, yeah, I gotta go
back to the mid nineties problem.
Speaker 1 (54:10):
Right right right there? You go with a guy who
is the best feet and one of the as far
as the two way player on the offensive defensive end.
It doesn't get much better than that dude and athletic
to boot, So same thing. I mean, that's about the
last time, and I'm sure there were teams in between,
but you get my point where it's like, oh, that's
the calling card. If I'd have told you at the
beginning of the year that they were going to the
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defense was going to be a calling card for them,
you look at me and said, well, place are they
going to? Guye In, Well, damn, you just said, oh, man,
play defense. That's who they are. Now, That's not who
they've been. They weren't like it. You couldn't get them
to play some defense at times. Then. I mean, in
the past, this team's this team is going to have
a chance if they do it they did last night.
Continue to defend and hit open shots and make free
(54:55):
throws and attack the rim when it's there. You don't
have to settle. You're not Golden State. They'll beat you
long range that you can at times, but that's how
they They've lived with Steph Curry. It said that you
don't want that matchup. You want to go and body
blow them and then knock down those shots when they're
their long range, and that's what they did last night.
It was a different team last night.
Speaker 7 (55:15):
Hopefully a formula has been unlocked, and we also know
that Steve Kerr is good at making adjustments, so hopefully
the Rockets can be proactive on that as opposed to reactive,
because the reaction has not necessarily been great in this series.
So we'll see if that translates over to Game six.
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Speaker 7 (58:15):
Indeed it is the steakouts is upon us. But the
Rockets able to forest Game six last night, one thirty one, one,
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off Today they lose to the Tigers yesterday seven four
take two out of three. They get the White Sox
next in Chicago. Sean, are you much of a convention guy? Like,
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have you ever been to a convention that you weren't
signing at? You weren't a part of it, that you
just went because they were like hmm, that sounds interesting,
I want to go half.
Speaker 1 (58:45):
Yeah, I mean like, I mean that you're not a
part of whether you know, if you're considering like gun
conventions or you know, the stuff that you're looking to
buy or so, oh yeah, I've been to them where
I'm not out of you know, owning a company where
they're coming to visit your I've been a bolt sure
where I've been there as a as a vendor and
been there as a customer. Absolutely fair enough.
Speaker 7 (59:07):
So, Like there's the National Baseball Card Convention every single
year that a buddy of mine goes to and he's
a hell of a collector. Like I remembered once he
was being interviewed about his collection and he reaches into
his bag and starts pulling out Mickey Mantles and Willie
May's and all of these. I was like, wow, Like,
you're that type of collector. So there are many of
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them out there. As I mentioned, could I interest you
in Paison con Possible?
Speaker 1 (59:34):
Is Italian? The convention is it? Do you dressed like
an Italian or a mafia person? Or food? Which one
would it be?
Speaker 7 (59:42):
I'm glad you asked, because it's all the aboves. So
this is going to be a three day event happening
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on Instagram. From May ninth to the eleventh, fans of
Italian American culture are gathering for a weekend packed with music, film,
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Godfather and more. It's gonna be in Rutherford, New Jersey.
The event includes three days of live entertainment, panels, legendary guests,
the best food, and the film festival that captures what
it means to be a pieson whether you're Italian or
you just love the culture. Everyone's welcome, show up, connect
and be a part of something special.
Speaker 5 (01:00:23):
With the Italian flag.
Speaker 7 (01:00:24):
Emoji at the end of the post, what do you think, Oh,
I'd be in Absolutely, I mean such short notice. Probably
not because what we're a week and a half away
from this, but you know you plan for if they
do this again next year, then yeah, absolutely. I even
though I am not a pison myself, at least I
don't believe I am. But even though I don't know
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that I'm a pison, I still feel like I connect
with the pisons out there the gumbox.
Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Yeah, I'll be honest with you, Dan, I'm and you
and I have talked about this, I think during break.
I don't know if we've talked about on air. We've
talked before. I'm one of those guys as I've read
every maybe we haven't. Maybe I've loosed my mind. I've
talked about with somebody else, but I for years I have.
I've read as many books as possible on the mafia
and the mob a major intrigue with it, majorly from
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John Gotti, you know, the major intrigue to the point
the very first visit I ever made to New York
City in my life, And I was like, was I
Hell I might have been out of college, it might
have been, you know, early in my career. Hell I
might have been when I was in my thirties, late
maybe late twenties maybe, But I made my first visit. Well,
I'm thinking, did I ever? I'm talking about when I
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flew there. I mean I played there as a player,
But when I flew there just to visit? Does that
make sense? Or I wasn't playing in a game to
go in and get out? My first visit had to be.
It wasn't when I was a teenager a kid. So
I was so intrigued with the mob. The very first
thing I did when I my first visit as an
adult to New York City, I put my bags in
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my hotel room in Time Square and I had a
cab take me to Spark Steakhouse.
Speaker 5 (01:02:03):
Paul Coustelano.
Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
That's exactly right, That's honestly got truth. This is not hyperbolic.
I literally ran upstairs, dropped it off, and it was
probably three or four in the afternoon, right, So I
was gonna go there, and then I was gonna sit
in and have a beer and get a steak at
at Spark Steakhouse. And that's exactly what I did. Put
my put my bags away, immediately washed my face, brush,
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my teeth, got back in the vehicle and went down
and took a cab to Spark Steakhouse and literally had
them park. I walked up. I stood. You know, you've
seen all the pictures where Paul Casselana was shot on
the on the on the when he when and supposedly
got he was in the car watching down the street,
you know, all the stuff you hear. And I stood
right there at the entryway and I went through like okay,
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this really did this guy got shot here? So I
was and I know it sounds so weird, but it was.
I was into it. And then I went in and
sat there and I looked around like this is I mean,
how many mob bosses walked it walked in here? Now
my whole thought, And it was awesome. But that's the
very all the things to do in New York. My
first my first thing after putting my bags down were
to get the Spark Steakhouse. And I stood outside and
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kind of from different angles like okay, where would where
do they shoot? How did they pull this all? I mean,
and I went to this day. I remember, there's a
lot of things I don't remember about New York. I
know exactly why and where and what I did my
first visit there.
Speaker 7 (01:03:25):
Yeah, a good buddy of mine actually re enacted where
Costellano was whacked and you know, laid down on the
pavement right there. And of course, you know in New
York you can always tell the tourists from the New
Yorkers because the New Yorkers just either their heads down
or they're just staring straight.
Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Ahead, keep a million times.
Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
Yeah right, yeah, absolutely, you know, as opposed to I
was that tourist. That's it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Hey, But I had read so many books on the
mob and my intrigue with John Gottie and and I'm
setting her thinking, Okay, was Gody sitting in the back seat.
Did he kind of turn you know how when you
sit in the back seat and you look through that
little back window and those limos. Did he look there
and just like okay, you know, and now that he
was going to be obviously elevated to the to the
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to the you know, the boss of one of the
of the of the Gambino family that's exactly right. So
I was, it was I was, and it was weird.
It was like they I was like, not nervous, but
it was here. I have a grown adult life standing
there thinking. But it was all the books from past
mob to current to and in the history of the Mob,
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not only from where it came from, but like through
Chicago Mob and Vegas Mob and New York City and
and it was. I loved it, man, but I could
not wait. I literally was pumped. I didn't I don't
eve remember what I was there for. It might have
been covering something for ESPN, or I might have been
in the summertime was going. And that was my first
visit to Yankee Stadium as well. I got on the
subway and I went to Yankee Stadium as well, Old
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Yankee Stadium. So it was one of those men, if
you're going to go by yourself, I did and I
was alone, and I thought, this is pretty cool. But
so yes, I'm with you, just to see if there
was like deep history and it was fun and cool
and people were dressed up like old school. I'm not
a comic con guy. I mean, I like, I'm intrigued
with it. I'm not gonna dress up like Darth Vader
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at one of these. But going to those and seeing
that one, that to me, hits deep because that's like
real life. You know. I don't think Darth Vader's jumping
from you know, coming down and Harrison Ford and somebody's
gonna you know, Yoda and all that stuff. We're gonna come.
But that was real John Gotti and Paul Castellano getting
shot on the side of the street in front of
a steakhouse. So yeah, I would go with more preparation,
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and if it fits schedule, I think it'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (01:05:35):
No, I mean, I'm a huge mob movie guy. I
still watch The Sopranos at times.
Speaker 7 (01:05:40):
I mean, even though I've seen every single episode, it's
it's still required viewing for me. And you know, just
one rule though that I take us to break with here,
sean A. Don doesn't wear shorts. That's one thing that
we have.
Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
I ever seen one wear shorts.
Speaker 5 (01:05:55):
That's that's just it. That's just it. Tony Soprano did.
Speaker 7 (01:05:58):
But then you know, Carli and luper T let him know, Hey,
you know I heard you had a cookout at your house.
Just so you know what, Don doesn't wear shorts.
Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Yeah, it's true. I mean, and normally now that obviously different.
But really, when you see old school mob movies or
documentaries pants, when's the last time you saw Paulie Walnuts.
He's not the Don, but Paully Walnuts in any part
of the mob, they don't wear shirt. They wear the
like you may get a bowling shirt out of him,
you know, the old school shirt I'm talking about. Then
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the suits, and you know, because they all run a
dry cleaning business, but it's all legit, of course, of course, yeah,
you dry cleaning, then go, but in the back room
you might get whacked if you were the dumb one.
But jobs, that's exactly right. So I it's a good point.
I can't remember the last time I saw the high
ranking mobster underboss in a pair of shorts. It can
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be one hundred and five in New York City and
in the in their heyday, and I don't ever remember
seeing him in a pair of shorts. That's a good point.
And the Don never I John Gotti, did he ever
put on a pair of shorts?
Speaker 5 (01:06:59):
And it's I have to google and see.
Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (01:07:01):
I don't believe he did.
Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
He even if he got him dry cleaned and his
dry cleaner, because you know it was all legit.
Speaker 5 (01:07:06):
D oh yeah that right, yeah, exactly, absolutely absolutely right.
Speaker 7 (01:07:10):
Look, we're just running a card game here, you know, Officer.
Speaker 5 (01:07:13):
That's all we're doing right now. That's that's all it is.
Speaker 7 (01:07:17):
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Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Yeah we do. Hey, Triple Ey, when we come back,
could you could we double down on kiss and maybe
give me Beth?
Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
And just I mean it's slow, but every guy that's
like forty years or older or maybe fifty, you'll say, yeah,
I remember her. This was the song this and we
always say this, the three cuts Beth dream Weaver, like
Gary Wright dream Weaver, and that still plays. They say,
oh yeah, you get Gay dream Weaver, Okay, Terry in
your twenty twenty five slow dance song. And then obviously
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Stairway to Heaven the long version, because you got because
you got to put your hands on the low back
for like fifteen minutes. Yeah, those those were the cuts.
But yeah, Beth will take you back into your old
school fields, from the high school dance Dan, when you're part,
when you had with me, when you had long feathered hair,
part of down the Middle Man. I was a dude
hockey hockey h mullet. Are you kidding me? Who pulls
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more me? Or Ron Dugay? That was the question back.
Speaker 5 (01:09:50):
I'm going to go with you because I have no
idea who Ron Dugay is.
Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Former Carol All remember the supermodel counting Yeah, I believe
that with do Gay and her were married at one
Ron was the flowing locks hockey player for the Rangers.
The hockey they always get yeah yeah, and you know
before they had to wear helmets, you know, they would
run skate around without helmets on and play hockey with
nothing covering their head. So do Gate Do Gay was
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one of those guys, And uh, I'm pretty sure. And
at first I thought it was Ron Greschner. You remember
that name. You probably don't, don't see I'm a hockey guy.
Grescher and do Gay. They might have even played on
the same team at one point. But I'm pretty sure
it was Ron do Gay. If not, it was Gresher
But I think do Gay. But do Gay is the
long flowing locks, uh, you know, with the hair, with
the wavy hair, the typical hockey mullet that he had
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back in like the seventies and eighties. But if I'm
not mistaken, he was you can hit the Google machine.
But he was married and or dated Carol Alt, one
of the two, the supermodel.
Speaker 5 (01:10:47):
If you're pulling Carol Alt, you're doing things right.
Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (01:10:51):
Good for them, go brother, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 7 (01:10:53):
Yes, we've been talking about the Rockets able to force
a game six last night, one thirty one, one sixteen
win over the Warriors. That's coming up tomorrow. Astros are
off today. They get the White Sox in Chicago tomorrow
for a weekend series. But Sean, we can talk about
it a little bit right here and then obviously continue
the conversation.
Speaker 5 (01:11:14):
But two for his last sixteen.
Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
You know I made a mistake, Dan, What's it wasn't
Carol alt I'm am I right to say it was Kim.
It's it's a Kim Alexis, the other supermodel. Right. It
wasn't carolalt Oh actually might have been married to Ron Greschner.
Maybe I'm wrong, but it wasn't Carol alt It was
Kim Alexis, who's a famous supermodel too. She was the one.
If it just hit me, I'll have to google, but
I'm pretty sure it was Kim Alexis. Not not that
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it matters, you know, but who's KU's keeping count youth
wealthy useless knowledge. I think it was Kim Alexis that
was married to Ron Dugay, the hockey player.
Speaker 5 (01:11:48):
It was it was Greschner. Greschner was the one with Carol.
Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
All right, there you are you.
Speaker 5 (01:11:52):
Were correct about that.
Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Greschner with Carol Alton. He was a hockey guy too.
And then do Gay was married for I don't know,
they had to be married for maybe fourteen to fifteen years,
if I'm not mistaken, to like eighties to nineties somewhere
in that range or the nineties to the mid two thousand,
like twenty fifteen, Kim Alexis. I'm pretty sure. So if
somebody sees that, tell me if I'm right. Alroung, but
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I think Dougay was married to Kim Alexis and Reschner
was Carol Allt. That's right.
Speaker 7 (01:12:19):
Yeah, it's like the hockey guys, like I said, I mean,
you know they yeah, they do. And you know it's
kind of like another one too, of we've had this
conversation before, Hey, how did he make that happen? Is
the ultimate to me is Christie Brinkley with Billy Joel,
because as much as we love the piano man, he's
not an attractive man.
Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
It was over a skis, there's absolutely no question. But
hockey guys in NASCAR, you know race car drivers.
Speaker 7 (01:12:42):
Well it's the intrigue, it's the danger, that's that's what
it is, living on the edge exactly. Yeah, I mean
you know, look, you know baseball guys, they do well
for themselves. You know football guys, I mean, of course,
you know, now football is popular and there's again the
you know, intrigue and the danger that comes along with it.
But it seems like pound for pound, although actually no,
(01:13:03):
I'm gonna go back on that. The least physical of
all of them that seemingly does well is golf.
Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Oh yeah, and well it is, I mean physical, the
wear and tear in soccer too. If you're like if
you're a stud on the in soccer, like I'm talking
about the cream of the crop. European your your, your, your,
your your, you know, Manchester United, see you're a you're
(01:13:30):
that guy they pull to dude, they make no mistaken
But but overall, from top to Bobby right, not just
the stars, there is no doubt you you hit it.
You said, let's see we got Nascar, we got uh
we Also you'll tell country singers, yeah, country singers, but
all but all entertainers. But like you mentioned with Billy Joel,
but you hit it golf for whatever reason. And it's
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not exactly like you're living on the edge.
Speaker 12 (01:13:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
It's competitive tough, but it isn't like you're it's the lifestyle. Yeah,
we can't even talk four fair ways over on a
golf course when it when a pros got it. So
it's a little stuffy at times on a sport that
you know, I'm obsessed with anyway. But yeah, they're living
on the edge like a race car driver. That's exactly right.
And and hockey tough guy. You know, you're get in
(01:14:17):
a fight and then come home when you're bloodied and
your your your supermodels waiting on you. Oh yeah, that
living on the edge thing, that that bad boy stuff.
They they like that. Well, they want they want the
bad boy. There you go. They want to make sure
that honey, can we cook together? You know, you gotta
have both that. If you got one, they want the other.
If you got the other, they want the prior. So
if you got both, well then you're you're probably rond gay. Okay,
(01:14:38):
there you go.
Speaker 5 (01:14:39):
Man. Not bad, not bad at all.
Speaker 7 (01:14:41):
I would say the everyday life guy connection that can
apply to this cops and firefighters.
Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Again, Yeah, it's the danger uniform, brother uniform that yes.
Speaker 5 (01:14:52):
Yes, the uniform too. That definitely helps. But you know
it's just also too oh you live your life on
the edge, Yeah, kind of kind of do. Every lady
wants to find their Honda. That's that's it.
Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
You know, I love the bad boy, but make sure
you come home safe to me. That's it.
Speaker 7 (01:15:09):
Yeah, right street, you got you got, you gotta put
respect on all the names there that are part of SWAT.
You know, when they show up, they're there to meet
in business.
Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Yeah, of course I just played the Hondo card.
Speaker 7 (01:15:21):
Yeah yeah, nice Yeah yeah, Hondo. I mean different variations
of Honda. The most recent one is Shemar Moore. But
it's you know street like in the movie you had
Colin Farrell. So yeah, you know, it's you go into
dangerous situations and you go home to a smoke show
of a lady. Good for you? There you go, No, no,
absolutely not. I how could I. I mean, you know,
(01:15:42):
these these guys got so much more to offer than
I do.
Speaker 5 (01:15:45):
So anyway, hey Dan, Dan, don't sell yourself short. I
appreciate it. I appreciate I you know, I'm a tremendous slouch.
I do know that.
Speaker 7 (01:15:55):
All right, Uh well, I see that some of you
want to still weigh in on the Rockets conversation.
Speaker 5 (01:16:00):
We can.
Speaker 7 (01:16:01):
We've that bic back into the conversation. But somebody we
talked about a lot. Is it time when it comes
to this player on the astros. We'll discuss here as
we close out seven o'clock hour Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Let the celebration start more Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
seven ninety.
Speaker 7 (01:16:21):
You know, just to kind of continue this and we'll
bring John on the northwest side in here on the
conversation is you know, not that it matters now, and
you know both of us are kept men, but it
always has cracked me up. This has happened to me
twice now of you know, Oh, I had a real
crush on you, Like the girl says that to you,
and I'm kind of like, well, I was a knucklehead
(01:16:42):
back then, why didn't you say anything?
Speaker 5 (01:16:44):
Kind of deal? I mean, does that ever happen? Sean?
Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
I think it happens to everybody at some point. Yeah, man,
I was you didn't say anything. You know we're doing there.
Everybody's married with kids and they're your friend, they become
your friends. They then they finally admit it. Oh yeah,
when I was fifteen, why'd you have a crush on me?
I was clueless? Yeah, But and you know, so it's
like when you had a crush on the girl with
headgear on? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:17:09):
There you go, So now I'm big on teeth. I'm
big on teeth.
Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
There you go. I Yeah, I think I think everybody's
been through that, or you regret not telling that girl
like when you were like the seventeen or sixteen man,
I remember, or when you were twelve in the seventh grade, right,
So yeah, I think everybody rolls through that at some
point in time. Or because it's okay your thirty year reunions.
I remember when I had a crush on you when
(01:17:34):
we were fifteen. You did, No, you didn't that conversation. Yeah,
I think I think we've all been there.
Speaker 5 (01:17:39):
Yeah, well, you know, as I've told you.
Speaker 7 (01:17:41):
Another thing that I like to say is these things
have a way of working themselves out.
Speaker 5 (01:17:45):
And everything's worked out well.
Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
So there you go.
Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
We got that going for us, which is nice.
Speaker 7 (01:17:50):
Again seven one three two one two five seven ninety
the number two. Get in on the phone lines. Let's
uh continue the conversation. We'll push the astros to the
top of the eight o'clock hourd on on the northwest side.
Speaker 5 (01:18:01):
What's the way in, John? Good morning?
Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
Good morning?
Speaker 14 (01:18:04):
Yeah man, A girl tell me that I add some Well,
I mean, it's the crust still going on right now.
Speaker 5 (01:18:09):
Maybe we can resolve this fair point.
Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
If I'm with you, go for it, yeah.
Speaker 14 (01:18:17):
Man, yeah, yeah, hey man, you know what I got
out of this listen to Steve Curry last night and
uh watching them pull his players out.
Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
What I got out of that.
Speaker 14 (01:18:26):
Was, oh, okay, So you came to Houston with doubt
that you weren't gonna be able to beat this Rockets
team anyway. And also your team just didn't have enough
energy to match these young fellows over there. Your team
is a little tired, especially your main players because they're
(01:18:47):
thirty five and on up that that that catches up
with you when you're trying to trying to catch rabbits.
Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
It really does.
Speaker 14 (01:18:55):
But listen, now, you know the next game, what they're
gonna do. They gonna bludy that game up played dirty,
try to put the Rockets in a half court game.
The Rockets got to do what they did last night.
They have to play through that. Run, run, run, run.
The best thing can happen is that Golden State is
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gonna foud them trying to stop them from running. On
another note, I say this, when I saw Jalen Green
h hurt his knee last night, I had to consider
I wonder if Jalen Green came into this series with
a hurt knee man, because that compound that that that
(01:19:35):
injury that when he hit the guy last night, it
just didn't really look like it was It was that
much of a you know, of a.
Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Of a hit.
Speaker 14 (01:19:44):
But you know, Curry look of Curry. I didn't even
I knew Curry was hurt, but I didn't know that
his thumb was that swollen until they shoved the picture
last night. But you know, it's just something to consider.
I'm not giving Jalen Green a pass, but hey, what
if he did come into this series with a hurt
me and going forward, We're gonna have to pay attention
to see what Kenny do going forward with the next
(01:20:08):
couple of games. But I mean, the Rockets can beat
Golden State with a game of Green anyway. They just
played their game. You can't beat you and that levicsm
like that. You got one guy over there, Curry, that's
the great player over there. You Curry can't beat you.
Sick if you cannot do it. This is still a
team game. I'm listening here what you guys got to say.
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And look, man, y'all have a good day.
Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (01:20:33):
I appreciate you too.
Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
John.
Speaker 7 (01:20:36):
I mean, you know, I just look at it as
this was a situation last night that you played desperate
basketball from the standpoint of, all right, we really have
to win this game. How do we win this game?
Get back to the basics and the Rockets. They're a
really good team at defending. They can crash the boards,
even though they lost that battle. But more than anything,
(01:20:58):
we get steals, We forced them in the turnovers, We
create offense for ourselves, give ourselves those second opportunities, and
that's what they were able to do. And that's the how,
that's how they were able to win this game.
Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
Yeah, it was. It was a damn good performance by them,
and you got it. It was a I'm not gonna
say a different effort, but it was a different focus
on how to attack. And they look like a team.
And I think John's right, what you're going to get
in Golden State. They're going to try to, you know,
make you play to their temple and do the things
they want to do and use their home court advantage
(01:21:31):
and the gamesmanship to theirs. But I believe, I fully
believe that Steve Ker saw the ask kick and said,
you know what this, uh, we're preserving this energy. But
I love the way they played. I love the way
they moved the basketball. I love the way they went
about their offensive game. I didn't have any questions they
were going to be really good on the defensive end,
but I love the way they attacked the offensive side.
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And it's it's a novel concept when you get out
in front and make people chase you right with a
big lead. And that's what happened last night.
Speaker 5 (01:22:00):
It was nice, I mean, And that's and it's not
like they've been unfamiliar with big leads in this series
and not quite to what they had last night.
Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
But yeah, we haven't got preservation this one. Yeah. Agree.
Speaker 7 (01:22:12):
So hopefully they can take the lessons from three to
four and apply them to Game six, because I mean,
you know, it's the old saying game seven, anything can happen,
And I think if that happens, Sean, I I feel
like you harken back to different team, clearly. But when
the Rockets were able to come back for Game seven
against the Clippers, it was kind of a feeling of Hey,
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we got this, but that's also a different team over
there of Golden State saying oh, yeah, well we've done this,
so we know how to do this.
Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
Yeah, got it and done it. I'll take the got
it if they if they have figured it out, I'll
take that team. But that old, old school, old man
strength is pretty good. You will get a better performance
out of Golden State, just like going in and like
when Matt Thomas walked in yesterday after our show and
we were talking, it was like we all felt pretty
good about the the result, how it was going to
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turn out. I would imagine Golden State, You're going to
see a different Golden State team and they're building on Thursday,
or excuse me, in game six that Thursday. But Game
six you're going to see, Yes, you are going to
see a different a different Golden State team, and the
Rockets would expect it. I would expect that you'd see
Golden State come out and give you maybe a different
type of game plan, but give you similar energy that
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the Rockets gave you last night. Understanding that they face
single elimination gone, while Golden State doesn't face that They're
going to play like it is because it may very
well be. They don't want to get on a plane
and go back to Houston for sure.
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the Rockets went last night one thirty one, one sixteen
over the Warriors to force a game six Astros lose
to the Tigers seven to four. Still take two out
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Let's talk some Astros right here as the Stros lose yesterday, Sean,
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And it was a one for four game out of
cam Smith, but his last five games, two for his
last sixteen, and it's starting to make me wonder if
not only just those results, but it's how the at
bats are looking right now, Sewan. I know you're a
big cam Smith guy. I'm a big camp Smith guy.
But the field is not the issue for him. The
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bases are not the issue for him. It seems like
there's a little bit of an adjustment that needs to
be made at the plate right now. And I'm almost
wondering if the Astros are running into a situation where
those adjustments need to be made in Sugarland, not with
the team at the moment.
Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
Well, let me ask you this, why uh what did
you expect? We talked about this before, and the reason
I'm asking I'm not disagreeing with you, but if he's
got the toughness that we talked about and that they
talk about, and that he's built different. Why not let
him struggle through it up there at time? That is me,
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you know, why not let him get his mats up
there now if it looks overwhelmed on a regular basis
and the struggle, But did we did you? Truthfully, we've
seen flashes of it, but as a as a rookie
player in this league with the great pitching you face,
now he's had to deal with who now what the
Padres mets Detroit. I'm not saying that I'm not giving
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him a hall pass, but didn't you expect I'll be
honest with you, not only did I expect him to
show flashes of greatness? And we've seen it. You know,
the way he runs, and he's going to be a
hell of a right fielder, and he's got power. We
saw the two home run game, he hit the ball
the other way, fighting off a ninety plus up and
hits it to right field. All those things, and say, oh, okay,
(01:27:49):
but did we really expect We kind of even said
this is a transition team right now. When I say
that they're good, but they I mean you get five
six new guys in different positions or different new bodies combined,
it's a little different. Hell why are we I mean
if his confidence isn't waning, I mean it's he's not like,
oh my gosh, grinding where he's he looks overwhelmed. And
(01:28:11):
when he gets off the team bus, why not let
him fight through it? Why why not let him play
through it? We would have second year guy, we do
a fourth year guy. Now, if it gets to the
point where Dan, I'm telling you, I said, the guy
has zero clue at the plate and you gotta say, okay, man,
let's go down there and tinker and do that. But
isn't this what we not only expected but kind of
pined for. Not not that he wanted to play poorly,
(01:28:32):
but at some point he was going to go through this.
He's young, this is his first bout with it. Hell,
we give everybody else a haul pass to get to
Oh man, it's okay, you know he's new or this
is who he is, he's a slow starter, and then
he let him play through it. If it starts to
look like this and it's getting in the way of
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the team, I get it, But we also don't want
it to be where you're playing him once every five
days because he's struggling, he's not getting at bats. You're
exactly right there, But what's the problem of testing it?
Because you knew he was going to hit this wall
at some point thirty games in or seventy games in.
So do we automatically say, ah, man two and two
(01:29:13):
of sixteen or whatever, Dan the exact number you had
just mentioned, or do we say it takes as Dana
mentions constantly, it just takes one, you know, that a
bloop single and maybe he's still trying to figure out
this is big boy stuff now, But don't we want
to know he can handle it well?
Speaker 7 (01:29:32):
I mean, and to your point too, with the line
you just said about big boy stuff, I almost feel
like there's still a little bit of kid gloves with them,
which I don't really understand if he's here and you
need him to play every single day and that includes
late enning situations.
Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
Too, agreed.
Speaker 7 (01:29:48):
So I mean, that's that's the part with me where
I feel like there's kind of a disconnect here of all, right,
do you want him up here, do you want him
to kind of go through all of those things, or
do you want to still kind of kid glove them
platoonum out there with the Zenzo Chaz whoever it might be.
And I mean that's where with me, I'm kind of
lost on with the Astros handling of him.
Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
You don't want to be a spot guy. You wanted
to play regularly in fight through It and then yes, right,
and if he plays regularly, you're not pulling him out
for a pinch hit or late and he's in and
he's not being pulled for a defensive replacement because he's
still learning the position but has a chance to be
special at it. We've seen some you know, throws and
running catch that he's made. I mean, he's he's got
a clue. So yeah, if you've decided that you know
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what the kid gloves, if let's not let him face
too much adversity. Give him a couple to play him once,
give him a day off, play him two days in
a row, then give him two days off. If it
gets that, I would just I'm with you. Let me
go get it bats every day, go dominate, get it going.
I'm not sure I have to worry about his confidence.
I think the kid knows he's a player, which to
me is a big part of the battle. The middle side,
(01:30:51):
But I'm not surprised, and we said it before the scenion.
He's gonna go through this if we expect him to
come out and hit three point thirty with an and
twelve home runs with thirty RBIs at this point, I mean,
come on, now, there are eighteen RBIs or twenty r
I mean, but you've seen enough to say we've got
something special here. So I get what you're saying.
Speaker 14 (01:31:12):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
If it becomes a detriment to the team, then you've
got to do what's right for the other eight cats
that are that are playing that day, and then it
entire roster. But we're so early, and the part of
me says, let's I'd rather play him more right now,
and then in ten more games that we say, man,
he's he's struggling. His bats are not good. The optics
(01:31:35):
tell you. Then you can say, man, let's go down
and get some more work. Okay, tanker, go down there,
do your thing. This is major league pitching. Their their
fifth guys better than your number one guy in minor
league baseball. I get it, But I have no problem
allowing him to take this kick in the teeth and
play through it. They're looking We'll look what they're doing
with de Zenzo, moving him around a little bit right play,
a little right field, play left field. He's getting he's
(01:31:57):
getting work, and he's he's you know, he swings the
back pretty well. So I'm more apt in a situation
like this not to take away from him to play
him through it. Now when people say, well, you can't
play him if he's no good, but how do I
find that out? On one day, every three days or
every other day, at least, let me get a ten
game run where he's you got him in the eight
(01:32:18):
hole or seven hole every day, and let's see what
happens and then make a decision. That's the one thing
I didn't want if you were going to bring camp
Smith up in which I pine for, is to be
a guy who's not playing every day, not getting the
necessary bats to work through it. But I'm okay, I'm
personally okay at this stage letting him fight through it.
(01:32:39):
I just am to see how, well, what if we
ruin his confidence? Well, if you ruin his confidence thirty
games into a season, then guess what he wasn't worthy
of the then he's not going to be the guy
we thought he was and I don't think he's that guy.
I think he's far more tough than a few at bats.
I just do. And I know he's getting some good work,
(01:32:59):
I mean meaning playing time, but I'm okay penciling him
in every day. Well if that's the case, then why
are we running yinor Dias out when he's hitting one ninety?
Now he's getting bet you get? Or why scare or
should I say Christian Walker as well? Now he started
to living up with what would h Dana Brown told?
What an over nine hundred ohps left? He's starting to
get going? But what do you have to do? And
I know he's a veteran, but sometimes I don't care
(01:33:21):
about age. I care about the mentality in the in
the approach. What do we let Christian Walker do? Play
through it? Right? Yeah? Through and still playing through it
because you're paying him. He's a veteran, he's seen it before.
But I'm not one of those guys that all of
a sudden looks at a rookie like he's got to
be a fragile personality that WHOA, We can't put him
in the same situation yinor who struggled through or or
(01:33:43):
Christian Walker struggles. Why not everybody's not cut the same
or built the same. So but you're you're right about this, Dan,
I think is that if this what you're seeing continues,
and he's getting four AD bats to day for ten
straight games, eight nine straight games, then you may have
to go. You may have to send him down to
go get work, and maybe that'll happen. I'm not there yet.
(01:34:05):
I'm not quite there yet.
Speaker 7 (01:34:06):
Yeah, Dana did tell us, you know, if they can
get to that bridge and they have to cross it,
well then that's exactly what to do. And speaking to
Christian Walker, oh for five yesterday in the cleanup spot,
just keep him out of the cleanup spot. I mean,
it's just clearly has that batch change when he's in
that spot. I don't know if he's putting pressure on himself.
I don't know if he's getting pitched differently, but clearly
(01:34:27):
things change. And I understand you rested yord on yesterday,
but six different TIRA, three different times where we left
at least six men on base of not being able
to come through in those spots. And I know that
he's done some good things as you mentioned, but still
I just would like to be able to get some
guys going, and seems like that five spot is a
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With more on Salisbury Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 7 (01:37:04):
Gotta pay respect to the legends, for sure, but yes, uh,
and that's also too. By the way, that Ace song,
that's a that's a popular one of the spirit of
Houston Marching Band.
Speaker 5 (01:37:14):
They like to throw that out a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
How long has this been going on? That high hat though,
you know when you're also a high hat, A good
little tap of the high hat. You know when the
when the guy in between sets in between the next songs,
like just talking to the crowd. Yeah, but it's starting,
you're starting to it's like a little bit of the
just the music, the prelude that leads into the next cut,
(01:37:35):
and you can the high hat in the back just
kind of tap in away, right he maybe maybe he's
giving you a little story introducing the next song. How
it came about You got the high you know the
the front man is and your man on the high
hats just a little tap on the back and then
bam you kick in. Yeah, high hat's elite, no doubt
about it.
Speaker 7 (01:37:52):
Well it's you know another one that's got elite high
hat is heey lewis in the news. It's hip to
be square, you know it's at the end. I mean,
the drummers is hitting, hitting the hell out of that.
But to your point, I mean, where you really get
it is whenever the lead singer, Hey, you know, let
me introduce you.
Speaker 5 (01:38:06):
To the band on the base.
Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
We've got this guy and the high hats tappen, yeah
on the board exactly, J Paul Jones.
Speaker 14 (01:38:15):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 7 (01:38:17):
And then you know, I always love too like whenever
it's it's a band that might be from Houston or
they've got to they've got a member in the band
that's from Houston. Is you know, you want to fire
up the crowd even more as you know in the
in our bassis you know him, he's a Houston guy,
and everybody you know.
Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
Oh no doubt, dude. One of my favorite parts of
the honestly, of going to a concert is when you
know throughout at different times, you know, on the you know,
when I was at the Kid Rock concert a couple
weeks ago out there and in Austin, it was well
it was in Lano, but it was phenomenal, and you know,
I love it when they I mean, he had the
(01:38:53):
he grabbed some saxophone and he had his guy on
the fiddle and he introduced and dude, when he says,
you know, brought his guy on the fiddle, that's some
of my favorite part the drummer, when they bring out
the you know, on the base or on the lead.
It's just I love when we get to see them
do their thing by themselves, you know what I mean? Yeah,
And a fiddle by itself, if you're good, is off
(01:39:16):
the chart. So I agree, Oh yeah, I'm I'm all
into it. That's one of my favorite parts because then
we get to see their friggin' skill set. And I
think that's as that's as good as there is when
it comes to a concert. And and I love when
they just sit back and watch their guys bang it. Man,
it's awesome.
Speaker 15 (01:39:32):
Now.
Speaker 7 (01:39:32):
Absolutely shout out Brady Black from the Randy Rogers Band.
He's he's one that can lay it down on the fiddle.
So there you go, big time. Absolutely absolutely. You always
gotta you always gotta look out for the band members.
That's uh, That's that's for sure. We'll get into the
Astros bullpen here in just a second. But again on
the phone line seven one three two one two five
seven ninety, we were just talking about Cam Smith and
(01:39:54):
let's head out to Montgomery. Ryan wants to talk a
little Camp Smith. Good morning, Ryan, guys. There, I'll do
it very well.
Speaker 16 (01:40:02):
Hey, so I got to go to the game yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 16 (01:40:05):
In the suites, even losing looks good man. I don't
think I can go to regular games anymore.
Speaker 5 (01:40:09):
But it does ruin you, that's for sure.
Speaker 16 (01:40:13):
That being said, talking about Cam Smith, I understand the
hesitation Dan about you know, maybe he needs to go
back down. I can see those being issues. But I
mean if we talk about other players, right, So the
wonderful thing about baseball as you can't hide, right, so.
Speaker 5 (01:40:27):
Everybody has to take it bats.
Speaker 16 (01:40:28):
You have to go out there and do it yourself.
That being said, there's other guys on the field, you know,
in that starting nine that need to be doing their
job as well to where Cam Smith maybe having not
the best at bats isn't the worst.
Speaker 17 (01:40:43):
Right.
Speaker 16 (01:40:43):
So it's seventy five at bats a two fourteen average,
I mean compared to you know, Christian Walker one oh seven,
one ninety five and then Brendan Rodgers. Right, So he's
been in the league for a while. He has only
fifty four at bats this season at two twenty two.
Speaker 3 (01:40:57):
But we're now talking about him.
Speaker 16 (01:40:59):
I think at the end of the day, Cam Smith
is doing much better than I think any rookie would do.
And I don't think sending him down would be the
best idea yet. I mean, he's not shaving facial hair
in the dugout and thinking it's gonna fix something. So
I think if right now, let it play out. I mean,
it's not like he's doing poorly. And yes there are
some errors there, but look at that air Painion made
(01:41:22):
or Rogers, you can put it on whoever you want there.
I don't remember how it was scored, but that was
kind of where everything fell apart for blue ball last
night or yesterday, and so it's you know, you can't
hide in baseball, but there should be people taking up
a mental to where we're not so worried about camp Smith.
And I think right now camp Smith is doing exactly
what he needs to do.
Speaker 5 (01:41:42):
He's getting better.
Speaker 16 (01:41:43):
And if you want to put tune in with Dezenzo
every now and again, that's totally fine. I mean, Dezenzo
is bat in two fifty right now, that's legit. But
cam Smith is the future. If Decenzo is the future,
we would have been using him a long time ago.
So I think camp Smith is doing just fine where
he's at there's a little bit of learning, and I
think that should be expected. And I think for everything
that's going on, he's doing a fantastic job. But other
(01:42:05):
than that, guys, I'm gonna shut up and listen and
I'll talk to you all later.
Speaker 5 (01:42:09):
Now you're welcome anytime.
Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
Right. I appreciate it. Thank you, Ryan, great stuff and
great points. Now do Kyle Tucker fifty to sixty at
bats into his career? What was he hitting? Do we know?
Speaker 5 (01:42:21):
I'd have to go back and look, but yeah, but
it wasn't had the check swings. That was one of
his problems.
Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
So and you remember that, So I do other guys doing.
You take a look at this team as it's kind
of alarming. When Ryan brought up you know, Janer's trying
to get rolling, Christian Walker's shown flashes you, I mean
you start to stay, uh, Jordan Alvarez, Brendan, I mean Rogers,
(01:42:48):
Cam Smith. You start to look at the team of
guys who are veterans that are struggling, let alone a guy.
So I think a lot of people the first thing
comes to mind is the struggle, but is at the confidence.
I honestly, Dan, I've been around some rookies in football,
are young players in football that the struggle to them,
you could see that the struggle may have affected them.
(01:43:10):
But then there's the guy that's built like really, they
look at it is the struggle, I'll get through it,
but it's not them then, instead of like when you
look at the struggle and say, man, I know what
the hell I've been, there was like I know him
better than this? Is this me? Damn? You start you do?
Then there's the cat who's hitting two ten who says, huh,
(01:43:32):
not only is it not me? You guys enjoy this?
Why you can your opponents because you're gonna pay for
this when I when I'm doing what I know I'm
capable of, but also when I know who I am.
That's part of my DNA and makeup. And maybe cam
Smith is that guy. And so I were not there
(01:43:52):
yet for me, Dan, but I'm with you. I understand
the roads you're on. I'm just not quite in the
church peer yet. Does that make sense with Camy? I
know you're not fully sold on him. You're starting to
broach the question.
Speaker 7 (01:44:03):
Right right right, And that's and that's it, and you
know we can continue this too, because I mean I
think to Ryan's points, it maybe is a little amplified
just because of what the other guys who you're trying
to count on aren't doing. I mean, Yiner comes off
the bench yesterday, strikes out, and he's still got that
ass out swing over that slider. That's starting to make
me wonder about him. If there's a book on him
(01:44:24):
of you throw that slider, he will chase it. Allah,
kind of like what we've seen from Jeremy Pania and
during his career Craig Bigio where he seemingly would do
the wheel of fortune, spin the wheel on that.
Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
Yeah, there's no doubt about it. But the guy that
you're talking about, I mean, he's we know the catcher
is going to turn this around, right, I mean at
least at least I mean we've seen I guess we'll
get the benefit out because we've seen the good stuff.
And and obviously the guy you mentioned visual, he was
pretty good. He found a way to do all his stuff.
(01:44:57):
So but the only way for med and to get
it done is to see it. Does that make sense?
So some guys, some guys can you do it different,
But for me as a visual I need to see
it and you know, ninety five from the big boys
looks a little different than ninety one from the minor leaguer.
It just does. And I know that you can build
(01:45:18):
your confidence, but let's be frank, are you getting more
confidence playing against better players or more confidence once you
survive it? And once you survive it, even though you
went through the struggles, the confidence grows even bigger because
you were able to survive it against the big boys
and then thrive against the big boys. I kind of
always lean like that, But you're right, I don't know
(01:45:40):
fragility wise, personality wise, I'm not even talking about just
Cam Smith. Don't talk about anybody. You really don't know
till you see him come out the other side of
it where it's like, Okay, that's who that guy is.
But I almost believe we got to allow just like
when you allow your kids to struggle, you got to
allow your players to struggle a little bit too, as
long as it's not a major detriment to the team. Right,
(01:46:00):
you can still contribute hitting two twenty if it may
not look good. But there's a reason. If we're going
to let veterans do it, let's let the young kid
fight through it. Until he's proven that he can't do it,
at least at this very moment, and then go get
him some I'm not prepared to do that just yet.
I'm not.
Speaker 7 (01:46:16):
Well, that's fair, Todd. So you want to get in
biscuit as well. We'll get you guys into the conversation
and also to get into a little bit of that
Astro's pitching boy. It continues to post, doesn't it. We
will discuss all of that here as we continue here
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That Lance McCullers is making his season debut on Sunday.
I have dishonored your I have dishonored myself, and I've
dishonored a platoon. So now I will stand here eating
the jelly donut while you and Triple do push ups.
Speaker 5 (01:49:04):
Well, I mean, I guess you guys are actually doing
push ups. So there you go.
Speaker 7 (01:49:08):
Now, okay, all right, there you go. Triple chest all
the way to the ground too, or they don't count.
Everybody knows that. But as we do here on The
Sean Salisbury Show, we talked about it. It's fair game,
and we've talked a lot of rockets in addition to
the astros.
Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
Go ahead, Dan, Sorry, Dan, sorry about that. I didn't
know I was on mute, but I.
Speaker 5 (01:49:24):
Was, well, you're good and you're good out those push ups.
Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
Well I was about to say, you you do you
you eat the jelly donut with the well on your
back while you do the push ups. Okay, but that's
the man. We'll watch and help you and we'll eat
the jelly donut while you got one sitting on your back.
But yes, uh, we're getting something. This is exciting to
see this this weekend, right, and it has taken us
a while get to it. And I guess it's I
(01:49:51):
don't know if it's like a it's like a weird feeling.
Think about how long it's been. I mean, it's all
it's always like, man, we get the now, the performance.
I can't wait to see it. So the anticipation, the injuries,
the struggle that he's been through, not just to the injuries,
but you know, I think the last picture that some
(01:50:13):
people have of him wasn't in against Philly. Was it
in Philly when he just got raked the yeah yeah
yeah yeah. So so now appears to be healthy and
now you're going to ramp up the stress on it
and put him in a real game and let's see
what he's got how I don't know how many pitches
they are going to allow or we're but I can't
(01:50:34):
wait to see it. I can't wait to see It's
been so long. A lot of us at the time, Dan,
I don't know if you were on board with this,
didn't believe that he was ever going to start another
game here.
Speaker 5 (01:50:46):
It started to make you wonder me.
Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
Yeah, Lee, And not that you obviously hoped he would,
because you know, Houston loves him, but it got to
a point where you're like, wonder if it's ever going
to happen. Well, here we are, and it's a couple
of days away, and it's been anticipated for a while.
I'm here for it.
Speaker 7 (01:51:01):
Well, I mean, I think he even started to have
that doubt, Sean. I mean, he missed twenty three, he
missed last year, and it seems like he was ramping
up last year to make the return, and then all
of a sudden he shut down again, and you're just like, man,
this just might not happen.
Speaker 5 (01:51:15):
I mean, it's not.
Speaker 7 (01:51:16):
Even an if or when it's just a it just
doesn't even seem like it seems like we're to the
third option here of won't. And you know, he's he's
now on the win because we know when that will be.
It'll be Sunday against the White Sox. But again someone
three two one two five seven ninety. The conversation, uh
(01:51:37):
continues on biscuit.
Speaker 5 (01:51:38):
What's the way in here? Biscuit? What's going on?
Speaker 14 (01:51:41):
Hey?
Speaker 15 (01:51:42):
Dan a man, Big Sean Man Dan Sean. A couple
of things come to mind, tying all the things. Then
shine is expectations, you know, and patience. It seemed like
to day shine and today's we just don't have a
patience and we've got these unrealistic expectations, you.
Speaker 5 (01:52:06):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 15 (01:52:06):
And it's it goes through all the sports. You know,
like you said, when you whether you're talking about Cam
Smith or c J. Stroud or Jalen green Weed, what
do you think that you know, when we thought Cam
was gonna come out back four hundred.
Speaker 18 (01:52:22):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
What what was the expectation about hitting what he's hitting
now and learning that's what he That's what the expectations
were to go to the shine.
Speaker 15 (01:52:32):
Yeah, that's what it should have been. But you know
you trying to think some people think he should be
backing three fifty right now. I'm like, okay, man, it's
it's nothing like experience and in anything any walk of life.
And so there's some growing pains for everybody here. Mean,
and no matter what job you do is some growing pains.
And so you have to be patient. And and you know, shout,
(01:52:56):
I've been talking that with Jalen Green how many years now,
trying let's let's be paid ship.
Speaker 1 (01:53:01):
Right.
Speaker 15 (01:53:01):
Then you have a couple of bad playoff games. Man,
we need to get Jalen Green up out of here. No, man,
look back and see what Steph Curry did in his
first playoff game. Go you know, like you say, go
back and look and see what Tucker how he started out.
It's just just we just gotta just pump the brakes.
Speaker 14 (01:53:18):
Man.
Speaker 15 (01:53:18):
They got talent. It's gonna show, like you say, shine,
and they got the wherewithal within him. He's got to
give them a little time, give him a little grace, man,
and and everything's gonna work out.
Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
Yeah, And a lot of times it ends up working
out better because they actually went through this stuff. Right.
That'll be the true test not only for Cam Smith,
but you know, Jalen Green struggles the rest of the series,
the off season and come through it what he looks
like next year. Are you are you still sold on
Jalen Green? You talking about that patience watching this, any
concerns at all for you on this biscuit.
Speaker 15 (01:53:53):
I mean it's just Shue concern, But I still think
you got you know what I mean.
Speaker 18 (01:53:58):
Right, it's first playoff series.
Speaker 15 (01:54:01):
It's another stage, another step. There's no shortcuts, you.
Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 15 (01:54:06):
You can't just boom and they Now, man, let's let's
see what he how he works on his game and
off season. Let's see once the season go with. I
still think the Rockets got a chance. Yeah, personally, Yeah,
And so let's let's see how it goes. You know,
let's see what he does this time going back to
Golden State. But Golden State, you know, one thing we
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do know Sean, is they trying to take him out
the game. That's their playing. So he's having to rise
up against that. It's not like, uh, you know, he said,
well this other guys don't pretty. Yeah, but they they're
targeting Jason Jalen.
Speaker 1 (01:54:39):
There's a focus on Yeah, there's a focus on making
sure he's not the one right.
Speaker 15 (01:54:45):
Right, because they know Sean. If Jayaler scores thirty points.
What's the Rockets record? So they know this, so they're like, Okay,
we got to stop this dudeen sporing and then we'll
see And so he has to that's something he has
to fight through. I'm willing to wait on him, man.
You know, I see all these trees and Giannis and
Katie and no man, this.
Speaker 18 (01:55:09):
Spectations. Then let the man play through it.
Speaker 15 (01:55:12):
It can fight through it.
Speaker 1 (01:55:16):
Yep, no argument for me.
Speaker 5 (01:55:19):
Appreciate it, Biscuit.
Speaker 1 (01:55:21):
He's a great and I ride on that too. I understand.
You know the Jalen Greens. Now it is what third
year Dan and we expect a little more. It's time,
it's a moving year, but it is his first playoff,
so it's he's basically a rookie playoff wise, And I
get with one percent with Biscuits saying, now, if Giannis
is thrown into the fray, obviously that changes a lot
(01:55:42):
for a lot of people. But yeah, I think we're
obviously premature quitting on Jalen Green. But what we don't
know is who which guy is he? But unless we
let it play out, we won't know. So that's part
of it. And then there's always the extra circumstances of
like a guy, if Jannis comes into the fray, would
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you be willing to move him? Well, that's something you
always have to visit because he's just a that's a
that's a different talent. But the Campsmith thing that I
haven't even thought once about sending him down to the
minors just yet. I'm willing to let him get kicked
in the mouth because I think the long term ramifications
work in his favor with his skill set if you
let him play through it here as opposed to playing
through minor leaguers, which he's supposed to dominate. We saw
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that at spring training.
Speaker 7 (01:56:28):
Well, at least with Jalen Green, he's not two and
twelve in his last fourteen playoff games unlike some other people.
Speaker 1 (01:56:34):
Good point, yeah, outstanding point. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:56:36):
At least he's got that going for him. Todd, see
you right there.
Speaker 7 (01:56:40):
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And someone three two one two five seven ninety as.
So we've been talking Cam Smith here. That's where Todd
Cyprus wants to go. Todd, good morning, Mornan.
Speaker 12 (01:58:18):
Yeah, I just uh, I mean, I granted I missed
probably earlier when the conversation came up about Smith. To me,
I mean our offense. I mean there's a lot of
concerns there right outside of Pereddi's and Payna. You know,
everybody's greatly underperforming. But Cam Smith, I mean to me,
if you actually break down his numbers, the average is low,
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but the ops is around six eighty field adjusted the
ops plus ninety five. I mean that that's just a
little below league average. And he's only twenty two. And
if you projected out what he's got, I mean he's
on pace for twenty home run seventy RBIs.
Speaker 18 (01:58:58):
I mean that's right.
Speaker 1 (01:58:59):
About where Paya is his rookie year.
Speaker 12 (01:59:00):
Only Cam Smith is a couple of years younger.
Speaker 1 (01:59:03):
Than Paanya was.
Speaker 12 (01:59:04):
So and and and Smith's defense, uh, I mean, I
know he's got a couple of layers that overall, the
defensive metrics are showing that he's he's a he's a
good outfielder, and uh, you know, it's not like we've
got anybody to I mean, who are you going to
put there instead? Chaz has had past success, Descenzo's got
a little potential, Myers is obviously a great defensive player.
Speaker 1 (01:59:27):
But all three of.
Speaker 12 (01:59:28):
Those guys are question marks at best. And even al
tuo Vey hall of Famer that he is, you know,
he's not having an overall all around great start to
the year either. So Cam Smith, I have more faith
in him out of all those guys, outside of all two,
I have more faith in him offensively than any of
the rest. So I just don't know who you would
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even replace him with if you did send him down
to the miners. I mean, I just you know, he's
even if the average is low, I mean, the powers
there his on as percentage of me he does walk,
I mean, there's there's plenty of good signs there to
stick with him. In my opinion, He's he to me,
he needs He's not not the concern at this point.
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But you know, I I overall, I mean, I'm I'm
feeling upbeat. And positive with the way this team is playing.
I mean even yesterday, I mean one one air or
at least the five hundred runs. I mean, they could
have swept the best team in the AL if you've
changed one play in that game. So you know, I
think they're doing well. I think cam Smith will be fine.
(02:00:34):
I've got no concerns with him, and I'll hang up
and listen. Thanks.
Speaker 5 (02:00:38):
I appreciate the call.
Speaker 1 (02:00:39):
Todd. Hell hell of a point. I'm with her. I
think he's going to be a star in this league.
That's just my opinion.
Speaker 7 (02:00:45):
I mean, and it's also too, I mean from everything
that we've talked about, I mean, the average, the strikeouts,
I mean, I guess you know it's also too. What
kind of amplifies this a little bit as the situation
that he was in us stay a chance to be
able to cut into that lead, and you take strike
three fastball right down the middle. I'm just kind of like, dude,
what are you looking for in that spot? But I mean,
it's one at bad. It's not one that you know
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is the overall body of work. It's just it's a
question of are you prepared to let him go through
those struggles and I think that's probably a little bit sean.
While you're seeing some of the yo yo right now
of him being platooned, being taken out lates all of
these other things. Is it fair to say that it's
not necessarily about him, it's about others and he's just
the one that's wearing it.
Speaker 1 (02:01:28):
Oh, I would think so we always look at that
that's one hundred percent correct. Maybe not one hundred percent,
but I think you're spot on with that. There's there's
no doubt. And you know, you know what happens, Dan,
when guys around you're kicking ass it just do you
just kind of flow, even if you're struggling a little bit,
and you put him in positions where he doesn't have
to feel that. And that's also part and parcel the
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responsibility of veterans to take care of their business. I agree,
And I.
Speaker 7 (02:01:55):
Mean I guess the positive of all of this too,
that you know we haven't gotten to is the astro
bullpen yesterday where you get aj blue ball, some good,
some bad. Some things worked against him. I mean, he's
only dinged for a couple of earned runs in his
four innings because of said error on the throw by
Pana to allow for the Grand Slam by by as
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to happen. But you get Logan van why two scoreless
innings yesterday? Same deal for one out of Steven Okert,
Brian King and Caleb Ort. The number one highest ranked
e r A in the American League belongs to the Astros.
Speaker 1 (02:02:35):
You said the highest ERA in the American League.
Speaker 7 (02:02:37):
Well, the lowest. But they've they've got that. They've got
the league's best. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't present it. Well, yeah, no,
there's no doubt. And Danny, even though they scattered a
few hits yesterday in the bullpen, right, a handful of hits,
they didn't give up any runs, did they.
Speaker 5 (02:02:50):
They did not. They gave up let's see, six five.
Speaker 1 (02:02:55):
Run third inning was what got him the I to me,
this pitching staff has been everything, I mean, hell more
than advertised because we especially bullpen, we thought we're got
to move around. Whose hater going to be this year?
Breaks back in the eight hole, Presley's no longer here.
You got some new arms, you got some young arms,
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you got some veter I mean, it was a little
bit everything, and you tyke that with the with the
way this for the most part, the starting pitching is
getting a little deeper and pitching their ass off. I
I have zero argument or problem with the way that,
for the most part that the pitching staff can out.
It wasn't a great, great start for blue Ball, there's
no doubt about that. That's okay, I mean it started,
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but the bullpen did exactly what they needed to do
for the most part when they've come in and that's
been their calling card the whole year. The pitching staff's
been a strength here for quite some time and right
now is doing it again. You're in, You're in every
game for the most part with this pitching staff.
Speaker 7 (02:03:56):
Yeah, it's definitely you know again, like we talked about
earlier with the Rockets and the the defense that travels,
same deal with the Astros where the pitching staff they've
pretty much been the constant all season long, and it's
just a question of can you hit that game and
if you do, you feel like you got a good opportunity.
So hopefully the Astros can continue that as promised though.
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Speaker 7 (02:05:26):
Tomorrow night in San Francisco, beating the Warriors one thirty one,
one sixteen. Astros lose to the Tigers, but take two
out of three. They lose yesterday seven to four. The
White Sox coming up next on Sunday, and the NFL
is fine. The Falcons two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
and defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrick one hundred thousand dollars for
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quote failing to present prevent the disclosure of confidential information
distributed to the club in advance of the NFL draft. Sean,
I mean, I'll ask you before you know, we involve
Gordy in the conversation too. If any of your kids
cost you one hundred thousand dollars, how long would that
take to be able to work that off?
Speaker 1 (02:06:07):
Well, a long time. But also if I were and
Olbrook and he's owned it, he gave it, he said,
listen and talking to the Sanders family, they were gracious
when they didn't have to be. He said, you know
my mistake as well. I still wonder if that's where
he got the number, But well that's for a different conversation.
It's hard to sift through that and all the encrypted
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information you get un less should you know, should door
Sanders number was the one on the screen, But I digress.
I thought that the way Olbrich handled it was was great.
That's an expensive phone call. I can tell you that
that's an expensive phone call. But yes, they would have
learned a valuable lesson. I would imagine Jeff made sure
his son knew about that too. One hundred for him
and two hundred and fifty. That's a three hundred fifty
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thousand dollars call. The prank wasn't smart, but the kid apologized,
let's move on in the way Olbrick handled it like
a champ. So yeah, I can assure you this, he
won't prank call anybody else again.
Speaker 19 (02:07:04):
Well, there I saw a lot of people defending and saying, oh,
it's just a prank, call a prankyday.
Speaker 5 (02:07:10):
Is your refrigerator running?
Speaker 8 (02:07:11):
You know that?
Speaker 17 (02:07:12):
Right?
Speaker 5 (02:07:12):
Kind of stuff?
Speaker 19 (02:07:13):
Right, this is blatant, you know, I don't know what
you want to call it. What's what's the word? But
like faking to be somebody else in countries, that's a crime.
Speaker 1 (02:07:22):
Yeah, and it's also just it's it's it's it's horrible
considering the circumstances. Just real quick. I remember when I
was getting drafted that day. A couple of my buddies
called it like seven in the morning. See, because we
had the draft in the morning. If you guys remember,
you'd wake up. The drafts started like a nine or
ten o'clock. So if you were thinking you were gonna
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get it was on the West coast, it was early,
and my buddy started calling. I said, dude, it's six
forty five. Don't call me right now, not today. Yeah,
every time the phone rang, you're like, man, am I
going higher than I thought? I'm coming off an injury,
and so it bothered you and your buddies were just
trying to be kind. It wasn't a prank call. So
going through that, and if you're Schauduer Sanders and you
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literally thought you were going to be a top five
pick and ended up falling, now we wouldn't be having
this conversation if Olbrick's kid makes the call. Like thirty
one other people got prank calls on that draft data,
It was like thirty people or thirty one people got
prank calls. And then last year what Cooper de Gene,
I mean there were people or two years ago whatever
it was getting prank calls. This wasn't the only one.
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But at the popularity and all the controversy surrounding the
fall in the draft, if he would have been drafted
twelfth instead of you know where the prank call about
ninth with the Saints, this, nobody would even be talking
about it because he would have still been drafted close
to where we thought the fact that he plummeted so
far it became an issue. I thought it was weak
by the kid, and you just can't do it because
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this is a livelihood you're talking about now. Once the
apology is there, take the apology. It's an expensive fine
and you move on and the Sanders family will as
they should. But Olbrooke handled it right, Jeff did. He
was very wise and said it that you sent a
loud message, and it's an expensive message as well, for sure.
Speaker 7 (02:09:03):
Chris Gordy joins us every Tuesday and Thursday here on
the Sean Salisbury Show courtesy of Carbock Brewing and Gordy.
Last night, well, it didn't send you to the car
back trying to drown your sorrows. It actually probably sent
you there in a celebratory mood last night.
Speaker 19 (02:09:19):
Well yeah, I mean the Rockets win was big. That
the Astros game yesterday. Look, they gave blue Ball chance
to kind of show what he could do. He missed on,
you know, one big pitch and gives up the Grand
Slam and suddenly what was it? A seven to one
game and everybody's going, ah, this one's over. But then
the Astros offense actually started battling back and they kept
putting runners on, but they couldn't do anything with it,
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and so that was kind of frustrating.
Speaker 5 (02:09:40):
But nonetheless those series.
Speaker 19 (02:09:42):
Win, you know, and now you go up to Chicago
where the White Sox absolutely freaking stinks.
Speaker 5 (02:09:48):
So you should take care of business up there, and
you know that you look at the division.
Speaker 19 (02:09:52):
Now you're two games back, a division leading Seattle. I
feel like this thing changes every two days.
Speaker 5 (02:09:57):
Guys.
Speaker 19 (02:09:57):
It's like, you know, it was the Rangers, then you know,
then the Angels really in the division. Now it's the Mariners.
Astras are right there. Man, Just take care of businesses
next couple of days to weeks, and you know, maybe
there'll start to be some separation here in the aos.
Speaker 1 (02:10:12):
And you know what, Gordy in truth, isn't this what
we expected back and forth all year long. A team
that's gonna win the division by a couple of games
when all of a sudden done mixed upt maybe the
but the Angels do this, they'll tease you early and
then they'll disappear. But between the Rangers and the Mariners
and Ashers, it's going to be a competitive division. So
with that, we mentioned the pitching, so let me put
that aside for a second. What is your most If
(02:10:35):
I said, give me the most impressive, you've got to
give a motivational speech on the Astros most impressive person
grouping player outside pitching. What's the most impressive thing about
him so far?
Speaker 5 (02:10:47):
So you said outside of pitching, that includes the bullpen.
Speaker 19 (02:10:49):
Yeah, pitching, not starting and bullpen. Yes, yeah, I mean
to me, it is the bullpen. But if I can't
say the bullpen. You know, Jeremy Panya is having a
very nice sea. I mean, you know, Ross and I
made a lunch bet before the season. I thought Penya
was gonna hit. I forget what it was. I think
I said twenty home runs or something, but he's got
four right now. But I just had this feeling watch
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him in spring training. You know, he the last year
or two when I saw it as spring training, it
was like he was in a like a body building,
uh you know, competition where his arms and he looks
so impressive. But it's like, bro, we're not We're not
trying to win best best looking. We're trying to win
baseball games. And so I think, you know, he's he's
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kind of he's still athletic as hell, but like it
wasn't as bulky. I guess she'll say this offseason and
you know, whenever he's done to refocus himself in his
swing and everything else, he's looking good man. And I
liked the whole idea of him in that lead all
spot and he's doing his job. So to me, that's
that's been kind of the big one for me is
Jeremy Payania kind of emerging back as the guy we
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saw his rookie season that was, you know what, World
Series MVP and then kind of regressing these lit two years.
Speaker 5 (02:12:00):
This year has been phenomenal so far.
Speaker 7 (02:12:03):
Yeah, and you know, with this seeries coming up, I
mean we talked about a little bit earlier. Lance mccullors
finally gets his opportunity, and you know, Gordy, me and
Sean talked about it a little bit earlier. You know,
it's the old if and when I went the third option,
I said, will it? I mean, you know, won't? I mean,
those things kind of started to creep into your mind.
So the fact that we're here, now, what can we
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actually do you believe expect from Lance mccullors.
Speaker 5 (02:12:29):
I mean, just just go out there and like just
get through a couple of innings.
Speaker 19 (02:12:33):
I don't even care ifull he gives up runs Like
to me, it's it's more of an accomplishment to get
him back and get out there on the mountain. No,
he's looked good in these you know, minor league starts,
So I'm just wild.
Speaker 5 (02:12:45):
Guys.
Speaker 19 (02:12:45):
Look, mccullor's has done everything he can to get back
on the mount It's not his fault. No, No, nobody
wants to be out there more than Lance mccullor's. And
Wheniam It takes them ount on this Sunday, the first
time he takes them ount for the astis it's November
of twenty twenty two in the World Series against Philly,
which by the way, was a rough outing for him.
But I'm appalled by how many people on social media,
(02:13:07):
on our Facebook page and all this that are just
filled with negative comments about Lance.
Speaker 5 (02:13:11):
And I get it, man, like the injuries suck.
Speaker 19 (02:13:13):
You're paying them a lot of money to not pitch,
and I understand the negative thoughts, but you should be
excited if you're an Astros fan, Lance freaking mccolors is
back with this pitching staff, pitching as well as it
has aj blue box excluded like this, you should be
ecstatic because if Lance is back and he's good, you
have an embarrassment of riches. This is a good thing
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for your team. I just don't get the negative. Yeah,
he'll probably get hurt in the third inning. Yeah he'll
probably Like look, I get it, the injury suck. But
like to have the negative connotations all around this, like
like hell for Lance mccaus you're a real Astros fan,
Like hell for this guy that he goes out there
dominates because if he does, that's good for your team.
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It spells good things the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (02:13:59):
Yeah. No, but he wants no player. I know, Like, man,
I love being hurt, so I can take this forty
million dollar abuse or whatever it is. Right, nobody wants
to go through that with Lance mccollors. In Gordy, I'm
with you. Get through a few innings and I'm gonna
even push it a little further, get through a few
innings or pe. I don't care if it's three or
four success. I'm actually looking forward to start two. How
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he comes back from let's say he throws seventy five
pitches or whatever it is, How he responds, whether he
pitches great or pitches average, whatever, how he responds and
gets quit. You know, his arm recovers and pitches in
Game two and then let me I want to see
that because the back to back part, okay, five days later,
that part I'm really I'm looking forward to. So with
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that Gordy, with mccollors and rooting for him success, do
you believe we have seen his best.
Speaker 5 (02:14:47):
Pitching yet in his career?
Speaker 1 (02:14:50):
Yes? You think even though with all the you know,
the old six million dollar man rebuilding all that, is
there a chance that we haven't seen his best yet.
Speaker 5 (02:15:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 19 (02:15:01):
I mean, he may have peaked a couple of years
ago when you know, like he was part of that
seventeen World Series and it right, you know, the Yankees
just struck out again on another curveball he through.
Speaker 5 (02:15:10):
So I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 19 (02:15:11):
If he'll get back to that, but he doesn't have
to be that like you've got when Christian Hovey eventually
gets back, we'll see you on Luis Garcia.
Speaker 5 (02:15:19):
But this, you know, and Fromber will be a free agent.
Speaker 19 (02:15:22):
But the Hunter Brown, Spencer, Arraghetty Hayden was n Nesky
run up Blancle like you're strong enough, like in other
years you might have to go. Lance, we really need
to be our number two, if not our ace dude, Like,
that's that's all we need from you. No, we need
you to be the number four, number five guy. That's
all we're asking for you to do. But I just
don't know where we all became these debbie downers where
(02:15:43):
it's like, hey, Lance McCullers is back, he's probably gonna
get hurt. Hey, the Astros one today, they're probably gonna
lose tomorrow. Like God, like we're all just cynics, and
it's like, enjoy the damn moment.
Speaker 5 (02:15:54):
This guy worked his ass off to get back here.
Speaker 1 (02:15:56):
Let's appreciate him if it's a long and it's a long, right, Dan,
I was gonna tell you before you ask your next question.
Ryan Fortson sent us a message on Twitter. Was talking.
I asked about the Tucker first sixty five sixty at
bats compared to camp Smith and should you send him down? Well,
Tucker's first sixty four at bats he was hitting one
forty one and so it turned out pretty good for him.
(02:16:17):
So the mental toughness is a big part of this.
So had I have had it down.
Speaker 5 (02:16:21):
Even the Hall of Famers, Yeah, don't hit immediately. I mean,
it's no.
Speaker 7 (02:16:26):
He's supposed to come up here. He's supposed to be
Aaron Judge. He's supposed to hit home runs, bat Yeah, exactly,
that's what he's supposed to be. No, just kidding, of course.
But Gordy, it's the weekend. I mean, it's here. I mean,
you know, soon enough we're gonna head outside see the
sales department. They're going to pretty much be treating it
like it's the weekend. So you got Rockets basketball tomorrow,
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you got Astros baseball over.
Speaker 5 (02:16:49):
The weekend, Lance thrown on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (02:16:50):
I mean, and where I'm going with this is we
got a lot of great opportunities from Crawford Bock.
Speaker 5 (02:16:55):
Yeah you do.
Speaker 19 (02:16:55):
You get the Kentucky Derby Saturday. It's plenty of opportunities.
So join us cold for Bach And it was great.
Out of friend in from out of town. I'd see
in a while over the weekend and he opened up
the fridge said what's this beer? I said, oh, you're
in for a tree. Let me learn you something.
Speaker 5 (02:17:10):
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Speaker 19 (02:17:12):
Sundrie stripes on the can pairs perfectly with Astros baseball,
and yeah, well the Astros are on the road. Listen
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two out of three, maybe even a sweep of the
Chicago White Sox. But do it drinking the Crawford Bach,
and we'll see if we can win on a horse
race on Saturday too.
Speaker 5 (02:17:32):
Guys, that's true. Yeah, I didn't even think about that.
I know that the wife I can't wait for that.
Speaker 1 (02:17:37):
This is sad. This Saturday is one of my favorite
Saturdays of the year. I love Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 7 (02:17:41):
I was gonna say, I mean, even though you know,
we don't get a lot of horse racing talk on here,
but we did the Master's Draft. I mean, I don't
know anything about anybody else. Real quick, I'll give you
the favorite at three to one is journal journalism. I
knew that my buddy brought up if journalism trips and
falls and breaks his leg, they might have to kill
him and we could say journalism is dead.
Speaker 14 (02:17:59):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (02:17:59):
Ah, and you know what that would possibly be fake news?
There you go right, you have fake news. We got that,
Toby Keiths, I think I got a horse. So you
know it's it's it's always a fun weekend. So Sean,
if we did do that tomorrow, I got to be
honest with you, I would be guessing at best.
Speaker 1 (02:18:17):
Guess what if you only know one horse? Dan, I
think we'll skip on the predictions for fair enough, have
some fun with it, but we won't make you pick
your five favorite horses.
Speaker 5 (02:18:25):
There we go, fair enough, fair enough. I like that idea.
Thank you, Gordy, you're the best.
Speaker 1 (02:18:29):
Play Cordie. Appreciate it, body all right?
Speaker 7 (02:18:32):
See his son and Chuck went away in on the conversation,
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think that one group of people are looking at this
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him the right way. We'll discuss all of that right here.
It is the Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
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This is all green.
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Greening for three continues Now Sports Talk seven ninety for
your ki.
Speaker 7 (02:20:33):
Talk to many different things today, but we've also talked
a lot of Rockets, and that's where Hassan at once
to go, Hassan, good.
Speaker 5 (02:20:39):
Morning, Hey, good morning, Sean.
Speaker 3 (02:20:42):
How are you.
Speaker 5 (02:20:44):
Sean's here? It's Dan too. What's going on, buddy?
Speaker 15 (02:20:47):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (02:20:47):
Man, So, I don't know.
Speaker 17 (02:20:50):
I kind of go back and forth with this with
this Rockets team during this Warriors series. You know, there's
there's games like Games three and four where I look
at how we perform and I'm just like, man, we're
so close. We need that guy, We need that closer,
and you know, that's where we got to make a
move this offseason. But then there's games like you know yesterday,
(02:21:13):
where we just come out and you know, have some
of the young guys like Amon Thompson where he just
kind of goes off and just collectively we look amazing
as a group. And so I mean, I just I expect,
you know, us to lose Friday, just given the circumstances,
(02:21:33):
and I know there's gonna be some overreactions by you know,
just Rockets fans, and I don't know, I kind of
want to see what's your opinion on, like what kind
of direction this team should take in the offseason. Do
we need to go out there and make a move,
you know, with you know, the whole talks with Kevin
Durant and then potentially Yannis being available given you know,
(02:21:56):
the state of the Bucks. Yeah, I just want to
know what you guys, I mean, what you think the
direction that the Rockets should take this offseason.
Speaker 5 (02:22:08):
Hey, I appreciate the call, Hasan.
Speaker 7 (02:22:09):
I mean, Sean, We'll do the offseason talk when it
becomes the off season, because I disagree with this on
on Tomorrow night. I think the Rockets feel like that
they left money on the table last time they were
out there, and I think last night kind of rejuvenated
them to believe, yeah, hey, we can send this back
to Sunday.
Speaker 1 (02:22:29):
Yeah. Oh, I give them a legitimate shot to win.
I would if I was a betting man, and I am,
but if I was betting against him, which I won't
advantage Golden State. They'll be well rested. They got a
message sent to them. They're going back to their building.
And in the middle of, you know, third quarter. I
think that Steve Kerr conceded because the Rockets kicked their
(02:22:52):
ass and said, I'm not going to try to chase
this down. I'll see you in game six. I think
that was obvious but brought on to them by the Rockets.
And this game's within five point Steph Curry's not sitting
on a bench and they don't empty the benches in
the middle of the third quarter. But so that part,
I give him a chance. I'm not already. I mean,
I've not conceded the fact that they're done in game six,
but I think he's My guess is that he's talking
(02:23:15):
about how will you feel they've done some good things?
How will you feel you know, is it ruin your
season if they get beaten game six, Well, it'll be frustrated,
and then obviously it changes your paradigms and shifts them
how you approach the off season. So I do give
him a legitimate shot, but I'd give it advantage to
gold State just because it's at home and they you know,
taking two ass kickings in a row for a good
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team is not normal for Gold States. So we'll see.
But as far as the off season, real quick, Dan,
I'm not making wholesale changes to make them. I'm just not.
Now there are the outliers. If you're telling me that
they would be in play for Giannis, I have to listen. Yes,
I absolutely have to listen. If you're telling me KD.
(02:23:57):
I'm listening, but not as hard as I'm listening with Uh.
With Giannis different to me, it's a difference right now,
I'm not listening to hard. But Okay, what is exactly
you want? If you get the KD, what exactly do
you want? What he can sell you? We know he
can score, but Giannis is a bigger to me, is
a bigger fish. That's a bigger catch for me at
this stage of their careers. So yeah, I don't care
(02:24:21):
who I'm on. If you're the Lakers and you're not
in on Giannis, antetokoopo, after which what goes on inside
the paint? You're an idiot. If if they don't, if
they don't jump through the roof to try and get
in on that frame, they're nuts. The Rockets definitely, if
you have a need, If you don't even have a need,
you're listening because of that guy. So I get it,
and I would. I don't care if the Rockets win
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the series. If the Rockets win the series and Jalen
goes forty forty the next two games, I'm still listening
to everything. Doesn't mean I'm running Jail out my point,
because he's been the center focus of this and they've
done a good job of shutting him down. So I'm listening.
This is this is one of the rare cats. You say, oh,
we got three receivers, Randy Moss is available. Oh I'm interested.
(02:25:05):
It's to say that that that that's exactly right. Well,
I love a wealth of riches and an embarrassment of
them and greed, greedy they They may need that closer
and it may be that very guy, but I'm not
just going out to get bodies that are a lateral move.
Because the guy's young and had a bad playoff series,
and I am looking to improve my team. I'm like
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this way I am every time every day I come
to work as a front office or a coach, I'm
looking to find somebody better than you, meaning a guy
I just am. I'm always in search of or listening
to find it. If somebody's better than the guys I got,
and my players are going to know. I mean, I'm
not out searching and throwing you under the bus, but
I am anything that makes my roster better. I'm listening
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just like the other way around. If I if my
coach or if if if they're not, then I got
to replace him. And if a coach, I'm always looking for,
is there somebody who who elevates the room better as
a coach? We found him period, you got him here
and you with Udoka, and so you're looking and if
you can't replace him, then good, you've hit it right.
But and if I'm the player, I'm always looking to
(02:26:13):
put it make it miserable on you for to replace me.
That's the whole goal on both sides. It's not the derogatory.
It's the way you're trying to do it. It's not
if it's not mean I gotta get me. I gotta
get the roster that's best for me, and Yannis makes
your roster better. So if he is available, and if
the Rockets were in play, you're damn right. If the
Rockets win the NBA Championship, Dan and the honis is available,
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I'm listening just so you know, because he will make
my team better. Teams that stand pat even after winning
are stupid, and good teams don't. They're still changing rosters.
So I give him a chance to beat Golden State,
for sure. But I'm visiting the honest thing. If if,
if it's allowed, if he's going to be if they're
going to put him out there, you're damn right I am,
(02:26:59):
even if I win the whole. Because he's an outlier,
it's a different cap. Well, see the Astros in twenty
eighteen after they just won the World Series. You go
get Garrett there, you go there, you go. Well, and
see the Astros when they had all that pitching and
gave up five assets for Zach Grinky. Yeah, So I'm
always looking to find somebody better, not in search of
(02:27:20):
the embarrassing, but I am looking, and I'm listening at all.
And if I'm the player, I'm gonna make it hard
on you to do that to me. So yeah, Dan,
I listen, and we will address the off season more
of the first focuses. Can they muster it up again
like they did in Game five?
Speaker 7 (02:27:34):
Well, I mean to your point, you get forty and
forty out of Jalen in two games, well then absolutely
you're winning that because we've laid out the numbers. When
he goes north of thirty, they're I think fourteen.
Speaker 5 (02:27:46):
And one this season.
Speaker 7 (02:27:47):
They don't lose the game is more of the way
to look at it. So hopefully they are able to
get that out of him. Eleven points from him last night,
so you'd love to be able to see that. Chuck
c you right there, will squeeze you into the conversation. Also,
to Sean, if we have time next segment, I do
want to get into one of the most insufferable people
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we are happy to see it. We'll discuss that here.
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Speaker 14 (02:30:20):
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Speaker 7 (02:30:21):
But the Sean Salisbury Show continued. They're on the phone
lines as Chuck has been waiting patiently in the Woodlands. Chuck,
good morning, good morning, great show as usual.
Speaker 5 (02:30:35):
Thanks.
Speaker 9 (02:30:36):
I have to comment on the Rockets real quick. We
got down three games to one by shooting like fifty
eight percent from the free throw line. So I have
hope we can win both games by a point if
we hit eight out of ten. The reason I called Brightman,
I recall, my memory's failing me, but I thought he
(02:30:56):
was zero for sixty or oh for eighty as a rookie,
and everybody wanted grit him, and then the mccollor's pulling
for mccollors. But the weather is is it going to
be in the upper forties twenty five min our wing
gust and rain right now? And I hope he doesn't
have to pitch in that weather.
Speaker 5 (02:31:12):
I appreciate it all, all right. I appreciate that call. Suck.
Speaker 1 (02:31:15):
Yeah that you know, good point Dan about the weather
with the colors. And we'll see how he deals, hopefully,
you know, in truth, forty five now depend on the way,
but forty five to fifty degree weather, when you warm up,
it's kind of that's kind of a pleasant you know
what I'm saying that that's in my opinion, that's because
all the work you're doing, it adds a little bit
(02:31:35):
of respite for it. But we'll see, and his adrenaline
is going to be pumping so much. I'm not. He
could be twenty below. I'm probably I'm not sure he'd
even care with the way it's going, but but it
is a point well taken.
Speaker 18 (02:31:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:31:47):
I don't know if Bregman was oh for eighty, but
he wasn't very good to start. And we told you
Kyle Tucker was hitting in the what one forties his
first sixty four to sixty five at bats. So the
camp Smith things won't be okay, it happens to most
of them. Ted Williams, Tony Gwynn. Just don't fall off
a turn up truck and land in your lap to say, hell,
I would imagine we go through though. Those two guys
had their struggles at some point in time, and Mickey
(02:32:09):
Mantle as well, so we probably we always have high
expectations because the hype that's created by all of us,
and then when somebody goes in it's two twenty five,
we're like, well, what the hell's wrong? Well, what's wrong
is the pitchers are pretty good and you're called a
rookie that hadn't faced this kind of stuff. I don't
want to hit a hook, you know, somebody's got a
(02:32:30):
nasty ass three or four pitches and then pumps at one,
you know, up around ninety seven, ninety eight, ninety nine
miles an hour. That's hard, Okay, that's captain obvious statement.
So he's looking and learning, and remember he hasn't been
through two rosters where he gets to see the same
picture time and time again. This is all new to him.
Camp Smith's going to be fine. Let him learn on
the run. I like it right up here with the
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big boys.
Speaker 7 (02:32:51):
Yeah, I mean i'd have to go back and look
at what his first few games work Bregman that is.
But yeah, it wasn't oh for eighty. He wouldn't have
even gotten oh for forty at that point. But U
and he's on fire this year, brother man. He is
having the best start of his brigging career.
Speaker 17 (02:33:07):
He is.
Speaker 1 (02:33:08):
We got a great text, I mean from I think
it came through yesterday Dan talking about Bregman real quick.
We don't have to spend a lot of time on
it because I know you got to get to the
insufferable one here.
Speaker 12 (02:33:18):
But that.
Speaker 1 (02:33:21):
The way that Bregman's playing long ball home, I mean
he's in batting average, slugging percentage on basersage. This looks
like twenty nineteen Alex Bregman, and it start fast. So
now what's the whole season going to look like when
a guy starts this fast. Well, he's proven it right now.
(02:33:43):
I'm trying to find that.
Speaker 5 (02:33:44):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (02:33:44):
I don't know if I can find it, but his
start right now has been about as impressive as it
gets for him, regardless. I think everybody knows the numbers.
I'm not telling you anything you don't know, but he
has started off well. So even guys like him can
have slow starts all of it career, but even as
a rookie, it happens.
Speaker 7 (02:34:01):
Hey, we got east Sock petis here all right. He's
making diving stops over at third base like he did yesterday,
playing really well. Yeah he is, you know, put putting
the ball into the Crawford boxes. I mean, put some
respect on each sock's name.
Speaker 1 (02:34:12):
Man.
Speaker 5 (02:34:13):
That's that's what the Astros have done so far. Andy
wants to weigh in.
Speaker 18 (02:34:16):
Andy, Good morning, Hey, Sean. You know, yeah, optimism about
Lance mccullis, But let's get your own record for a second.
In the last three years, he's pitched forty seven innings
and he's made fifty million dollars. He's paid over him
for his production a million dollars over a million dollars
(02:34:38):
an inning. So if I had to tell you or
ask you, what's he over and under? How many starts
he has this year? Where are you gonna where are
you gonna put that?
Speaker 1 (02:34:53):
Well, if he's healthy? Is that what we're asking now?
That part I do.
Speaker 18 (02:34:58):
No, I'm just asking what's it gonna be?
Speaker 1 (02:35:01):
I mean from here on, let's see, what are we about?
Thirty games around there somewhere in there, thirty games in
something like that. I'm gonna say that.
Speaker 5 (02:35:15):
Fifteen and I was gonna go twenty.
Speaker 1 (02:35:19):
Fifteen, eighteen stars.
Speaker 18 (02:35:21):
I'm gonna say less than ten. I mean, it's just
the history, his his history. There's something I don't know
where his mechanics inside his arm because he throws so
many breaking balls. I don't know what it is, but
it just seems like he's always getting hurt.
Speaker 5 (02:35:40):
So then why did you ask the question? If you
already had your answer?
Speaker 18 (02:35:45):
I wanted to hear what Sun wanted to say.
Speaker 1 (02:35:48):
Okay, yeah, yeah, any I'm not dead set on my part.
High I'm not because at one point I was wondering
if Lance would start a game here again. You know,
I think we all did with all the injuries. Maybe
that's maybe for me, it's more of the emotion, like
I'm pulling for it, and you're right about the money,
and I know he doesn't want to be hurt. But
if he does give you Dan your twenty starts, then
(02:36:11):
then we got a good thing. And then mccullors looks
through it and now I don't know what back is,
but then that means he's pitching well. So, Andy, it's
a valid question because of the history. Let's hope the
history doesn't repeat itself this year. I'm hoping for fifteen.
Maybe I'm optimistic, but and I am anxious to see
what it looks like. And I'm sure you are too, Andy,
regardless of the money, you know, the injuries have been
(02:36:33):
a bummer, and he gets a chance to do it again.
So we'll see if he gets to seize this man.
Speaker 7 (02:36:39):
Yeah, I mean, and I do think if he does
run into another long term injury, I mean, Sean, I
think at that point it's got to be at the
very least. And I know he shot it down about
the bullpen, but I mean, you've got to give yourself
a chance, man, if that happens. But I mean, if
it's he misses a start here or there, then I
think there's a huge reason why they've handled him the
(02:36:59):
way that they have is to be able to try
to make sure you do get the most longevity out
of him this season. And I mean I think he
even threw out twenty or the you know, a spata
or somebody. I heard somebody throw out twenty twenty five.
So I was like, Okay, well, yeah, it's twenty five
starts for him. That hasn't happened in a long time.
Speaker 1 (02:37:17):
It's been a minute. So if he gets twenty five,
you should be doing somersaults and standing on your head.
That would be great. But I am with you on
you know, the way that they've approached it. But listen,
this is now on Lance the health, if he's able
to stay healthy, and how productive is he. Well, they
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wanted to be a starter. He wants to be a starter.
But we're going to see how the armholds up. If not,
at some point in time he may have to be
a bullpen guy. But right now it doesn't feel Dan
and we've talked like like they're even planning on that.
Dana Brown said as such that he's a starter, so
he's going to get a chance to prove it this weekend.
Speaker 7 (02:37:56):
Hopefully it's a good first impression for twenty twenty five,
that is for sure, Tony and angleton Ce, you're right
there also too. I mean, we can't leave today without
throwing this in here because I love when insufferable people
fall flat on their face. We'll let you hear from
them next right here, Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 3 (02:38:14):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show, sales show.
Speaker 5 (02:38:18):
That's dutiful, Sean.
Speaker 7 (02:38:21):
I don't think I've had a chance to discuss JJ
Reddick with you very much, but not a fan whatsoever
his very first press conference, because I always love the
people who have to yell at you and tell you
I don't give an f And he did it twice
during that press conference, where usually when I hear people
say that, I'm like, oh, you care too much, that's
the problem. Like you're trying to tell yourself that you
(02:38:44):
know you don't care what people say about you, But
you telling me that tells me that you care more
than you are leading on at the moment. But last night,
after Game four, it was that the Timberwolves went up.
Speaker 5 (02:38:58):
Three to one.
Speaker 7 (02:38:59):
You had the duo of Lebron and Luca I think
played all forty eight minutes of that game. And before
yesterday's game five, JJ Reddick asked by a reporter about
how he handles substitutions, and let's just say, mister arrogant
duke boy decided to be just exactly that.
Speaker 2 (02:39:19):
I'm sorry, I've an.
Speaker 1 (02:39:20):
Experienced How was ma an experienced decision that I've made?
Speaker 10 (02:39:24):
You think I don't talk to my assistance about substitutions
every single time round?
Speaker 17 (02:39:28):
No, I just think there's a lot of coaches ling
on the assistants in those situation, as.
Speaker 14 (02:39:33):
Do every single time.
Speaker 5 (02:39:36):
That's a weird social.
Speaker 7 (02:39:39):
And then he just gets up and walks off acting
like he's won you know, three or four NBA titles
and he's got all the answers and that, you know,
everybody else is just dumb for questioning anything he does
as head coach.
Speaker 5 (02:39:50):
Let me tell you something. You're the head coach of
the Lakers.
Speaker 7 (02:39:52):
You're going to be questioned about your decisions and if
you can't handle it, and these are reactions that you're
going to continue to have, JJ, I got I tell
you it's going to be a short stay for you.
Speaker 5 (02:40:02):
Out there in l A. I hope you were in it.
Speaker 1 (02:40:03):
He did not buy well for the guy who went
on a broadcast who when he was on television was
was all over people who are soft minded, and we're
all over people who you know did that, you know,
gave an opinion and asked questions, and he asked questions
and he's in the media. How soon he forgot right,
you're the Lakers head coach. They're going to ask you.
(02:40:26):
And when you have to constantly it's like the person
who wants to constantly tell you that they're Yeah, man,
I'm a good person on this, on this.
Speaker 5 (02:40:32):
On this, that I'm doing work.
Speaker 1 (02:40:36):
Yeah great, Well okay, then then I guess you need
to prove to us that you're quite frankly, maybe not
be doing good work and you're not working hard, but
you're trying to convince me when you're doing it. You
don't have to tell us. Of course you care what
they think, or you wouldn't be bringing up I don't care,
but I haven't listen. He cares far more than they think.
And as a Lakers coach, I mean, you're gonna get
asked questions even when you're winning the expectations in Los
(02:40:58):
Angeles have always been high, So you take the job,
you better understand what goes with it. J. J. Reddick's
done some good things and he's done some questionable things.
And Rudy Gobert destroyed them last night. I mean he
completely dismantled them. And for a guy, I'm just gonna
leave it at this because Lebron's been fantastic. Just stop
the close out games and stuff between Lebron and Michael Can.
Speaker 5 (02:41:19):
We just leave it alone?
Speaker 1 (02:41:20):
Leave it alone? Did he gate? Let me ask you this,
and I'm a diehard, lifelong Laker fan, but in game
let's say Game four, did did how many points of
Lebron score in the fourth quarter?
Speaker 5 (02:41:34):
I don't have to go back and look at the court?
Speaker 18 (02:41:36):
Did he?
Speaker 1 (02:41:36):
Did he score? Regardless, I'm just throwing stuff out. And
last night he saw a close out. This is not
just Lebron, don't misunderstand me. It's just the constant Well
he's this guy, but another opportunity down three to one
to take over a game and didn't take it over.
He didn't play great last night. So he's had a
marvelous career and he's in the team picture of conversation
(02:41:56):
with all the greats, but the constant is he is
he is?
Speaker 17 (02:41:59):
He?
Speaker 1 (02:41:59):
No, he's actually not, So we can stop that there.
And with JJ Reddick, you're right, it's a little bit.
It's kind of maddening or fatiguing that he gets a
little uptight when you question him when things aren't going good. Right, Dan,
as as your point, and so he does care he's
going to get questioned. And let's not forget you were
in the media asking those questions that you wanted answers
(02:42:22):
to and now you're the coach. Guess what you're expected
to give him. Now you can be uptight and pissed
what they all are. We all get to that point,
but they're not going away. And they're sure as they're
not going to go away after getting swept by a
team that you weren't supposed to get beat by, and
in huge fashion in this series as well. And Edwards
wasn't the best player on the floor.
Speaker 7 (02:42:40):
Last night, Go Bear was and the cherry on top
of all this, Speaking of Edwards, I threw this out
on Twitter that he is the star that this league needs.
He's walking out of the arena last night going through
where they have the marquee there in the bowels of
Crypto dot Com Arena and he's going ant Man, Batman,
super Man, Lakers in five like as to like make sure,
(02:43:02):
you know, make fun of everybody that was doing that.
And on top of it, he decided before getting on
the team bus to take a victory lap around Crypto
dot Com Arena.
Speaker 5 (02:43:10):
I just love it.
Speaker 1 (02:43:11):
I love every love the kid's energy. Yees yes, and
at the expense of the team I grew up loving,
but I did it, didn't bother. I love his energy,
I love the way he plays, and he's got a
fantastic future and it was it was a really fun watch,
not only to watch him this kid, how he's developed,
but like you said, that last night put a smile
(02:43:31):
on my face. Even if it's against the team. I
like seeing, you know, sometimes it's okay to see it.
And I, like I said, Biscuit and I are probably
tripping because he's a Laker guy too, but above me out.
But they were manhandled in the series, so we can't
make excuses for him. They were manhandled. Dan. Let's also
before we go, did you see the guy fall out
of the stands in Pittsburgh? Did dude now I don't
(02:43:52):
know did he fall, was it accidental?
Speaker 5 (02:43:54):
Did he do it on purpot like?
Speaker 1 (02:43:56):
Was it suicidal? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:43:58):
It so there's I mean, of course unconfirmed.
Speaker 1 (02:44:01):
But somebody, I hate to even mention the word, but
it looks so odd.
Speaker 5 (02:44:04):
Right, I mean, and that's the thing.
Speaker 7 (02:44:06):
I mean, I see the video and it looks like
like he just like straight up like leapt like I
was like, I didn't even look like, you know, hey
he got up really quick, lost his balance, fell over
anything like that.
Speaker 5 (02:44:16):
But I mean, just what an awful situation.
Speaker 1 (02:44:19):
Oh, it's horrible. Do we have any update on that?
D Does anybody seen it?
Speaker 5 (02:44:21):
I have not, Yeah, I haven't either.
Speaker 7 (02:44:23):
I mean I think I was an ugly looking critical condition,
which I mean, you know, he took a twenty foot
fall right there.
Speaker 5 (02:44:29):
You can imagine that's the case.
Speaker 1 (02:44:31):
It was gut wrenching to watch, you know what it
looked like. And I do not mean this in a
a comedic way. I'm not trying to make this. It's
not funny from a distance. Did you ever see the
movie Weekend at Bernie's? Yeah, you know, you know how
and then when he when he was when he when
he you know, they and it was a comedy, but
this isn't cold to buy how how just the it
(02:44:51):
just looked like it was like right out of a
Oh come on, that can't be true, right.
Speaker 5 (02:44:55):
Like almost like it was a dummy, right, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (02:44:58):
What That's what I'm talking about, because in that it
looked like that from a distance and you're like what
and then you start to look at and you say,
oh my gosh, it was gut wrenching. I don't you know,
you never want anybody to feel that hopeless that they
do that if if that was the case, but if
it was accidental, what have you? What an awful scene
to be to see that. It was terrible and I hope,
(02:45:18):
I hope the recovery a full recovery, but it didn't
look good. And obviously if it's in critic if it's
a he, I'm a so I think it was a
he is in critical condition, that's a that That was
a very gut wrenching to watch.
Speaker 7 (02:45:31):
No doubt about it. Definitely hope we get some good
news on him. But now, I mean I saw that
video and was just like, oh my god, like it's
one of those and you know, whenever I see videos
like that or like, you know, somebody like walking like
on heights, like on the top of a building, like yesterday,
somebody on the Bay Bridge like scaling the side.
Speaker 5 (02:45:49):
I'm just like, oh God, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (02:45:51):
Man?
Speaker 5 (02:45:51):
Like it gives me the he bgb's and I'm not
even in the situation.
Speaker 1 (02:45:54):
Yeah, it's it's a. It's a. It was bad optics,
but obviously the let's hope there was alt's better than
what it looked like and then everything's gonna be okay.
But what a what a gut wrenching scene that.
Speaker 7 (02:46:05):
Was absolutely well. The result of this one, I'd say,
Sean was a pretty good one. A lot of fun, buddy.
We'll do it again on a Friday to send us
into the weekend as we'll be talking to Game six
and yep.
Speaker 1 (02:46:16):
Yeah, go Astros. I know they're off today, but I'm
just giving them a little extra love at Lance mc colors.
I hope it's a rewarding start for him this weekend,
but we'll discuss that tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (02:46:25):
You know it for sure.
Speaker 7 (02:46:26):
He's Shawn Chipley, Emmanuel Elmore, Dan Matthews, Matt Thomas Show
with Ross coming up next right here on Sports Talk
seven to ninety.
Speaker 5 (02:46:33):
We will talk to you in twenty hours
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