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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, we're gonna have a segment on this. And it
was the video that somebody had about Demiko Ryans talking
about the penalties and you know, saying they're uncalled for
all of those things. Don't just take my word for it,
Demiko Ryans after Sunday's game talking about the eleven penalties
for eighty yards.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Penalties are it's uncalled for? Right, It's all controllable things
we can control. And you know, you know, if you
stand up here, we're talking about negative play, something about
going back or is this is not what we talked
about main thing offense? We wanted to stay on track, right,
and we got some unfortunate penalties that put us behind
the sticks and just put us in some really long
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third downs that we were not able to manage. So
we have to clean up the penalties.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I mean, that just sounds like it's a carryover from
twenty twenty four. That was what this team was in
twenty four twenty three. Nobody knew who this team was
and the fact that they were winning and they won
ten games, everybody was excited. Last year, it was a disappointment.
You had every single design of not only making it
to the playoffs, I mean, the division foregone conclusion, but
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to go deep into the playoffs last year and it
was the same exact thing. So when you do the
same exact thing, people are gonna think that you regressed
a little bit. But then this comes back to the
Demico problem, Sean, because again, as I mentioned, that's the
same thing we heard last year. You could have honestly
just gone back to I don't know, Tripoli after the
Lions cheme. I'm not saying to do it, but I'm
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just saying you could have gone back to any game
that the Texans had where penalties were a problem, Jeremy Tunsul,
whoever it was, pre snap penalties. All of those things
that Sean had just got me thinking yesterday, is there
a Demico problem? Has Has he reached a point where
all right, you're saying things, you're doing things, You're you're
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trying to, you know, get your team to play the
right way, all of those things. But you've got your
quarterback after Week one saying I didn't like the way
we practiced. You've got that right there. Something's amiss in
that building right now now, And I think that it
goes back to the head coach. Where is he too
trusting with these guys. Is he treating them too lightly?
Because well, they're pros, they know what they're doing. I
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don't have to yell at them. I don't have to
do all those things where it's the old thing. You're
either coaching it or you're allowing it to happen. Clearly
this is being allowed to happen, and clearly this is
something that continues to persist for the for the Texans.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
For me, I I always try to preface this by saying,
we are not there. I don't know what is going
on in their meeting rooms the rest of it. But
I can just tell you this, teams that are penalized
most of the time are undisciplined on the practice field
as well. Now, I don't know, put it this way,
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if the penalties continue to happen, I hate. There's only
a few things that I can point to a coach
and say, what's going on in the building or the practices.
It's what are you a head coach's job at this point,
you're the head coach. You're coaching your coaches more than
you are your players. Understand what I'm saying. Of course,
you're the coach, but you become the CEO. You have delegated,
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and you empower your coaches to take care of those
meeting rooms away you you've coached your coach. Here's how
I want meetings to be handled. Here's how we're going
to handle practice. We're going to be Chris. We're going
to be precise, we're going to be dynamic. We're not
going to do a lot of corrections on the field.
We'll do it in the film. I want to keep
a Chris practice going. And so you're coaching coaches how
to approach these players, and then they've got to handle
their linebacker meeting room, their their special teams meeting and
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if they're not, then you go back to the coach say,
why is this? Why is your group the one that's
always off sides? Why is your group the one that
puts us in a bind? Then you take it to him,
you don't go and then he takes it back to players,
and the coach goes in and says, if we don't
get this settled, there's gonna be a lot of changes here.
And the fact that's exactly right, Well, that's why it
goes because he's got his ass in his slang. And
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then you go down and then the players, and if not,
it tells you that there's no buy in the player,
and then the position coach has got. Then then you
got to make changes. And you saw it happen on
the offensive line and offensive coordinator. They weren't doing what
they needed to do on Sundays and obviously during the
practice week to get it done. So guess what you
replace him? Now we got into the same crazy app Chicago.
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Did you see their penalties last night? Their penalties were
double digits. What ended up happening? That's damn right. They
did self inflicted problems. Now refs miss things. I get that,
But for the most part, they're pretty close. When a
guy holds and he says, what do he hold? He
dragged the guy down, grabbed his face mask. Okay, so
in Demko, I don't know. I think what happens. And
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this is true. Domico is going to get a little
extra Hall pass because he played here.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
He just is.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
That's the way it works because we want to embrace
that's it's houston Son, you know what I mean. I
get it, and he's a good football coach. He wouldn't
have got the job in the first place. He was
highly coveted. But now that he's here, you're in year three,
the expectations have risen, and let's let's not get too
carried away. They're back to back division champs. Now they
got to do it in the postseason. But I can
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tell you about Baltimore and Buffalo. Been deal in this
for a while with Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen as well,
so with him. But it is the one thing. Listen,
if you allow guys to be on discipline, and that's
why we don't, we can sit here and say, man,
they look on discipline on Sunday. So my natural reaction
is to go back to the week of practice. And
when CJ. Stroud tells me he was basically was concerned
about practice right yesterday, what does that tell you. It's
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the quarterback of your team, So something's not happening out
there that is okay, that's acceptable to the quarterback. Well,
how in the hell can it be acceptable to a
coaching staff and anybody else? So I don't know, And
if it continues to happen, there's only one person you
can go look at. It's the head coach, because you
are exactly what you'll tolerate you allow a player to
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show up late lately, Dude, I got a start. Let
me tell you a quick story about the Dallas Cowboys.
A good friend of mine is a long time he's
no longer there, but he played a long time in
the league, pro bowler and a hell of a player.
When the Cowboys were going and they had different coach
and we're going along. This was let's say a dozen
years ago. Well you know, well kind of like the
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Cowboys are now, but different head coach. And I'll leave
that out. But there's a player on that team who's
a star who we were talking. He said, I said,
what's it like? Plane? He goes, you cannot believe the
lack of discipline in this building. And he's a long time,
tough guy, hardcore, wants to be coached linebacker. And he
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said to me, he goes, For instance, one of our
players in between during meetings is a sleep in his
truck in the parking lot. I said, he goes. They handled,
but they don't really really do anything to him. He
wasn't dogging the player. And I know who the player
is because he trusts me. And but he got, oh,
he's out there, got to go get him sleeping during
meetings in the parking lot, but they allowed it to happen.
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That's the KO. Why oh what if we criticize a
star player with this is a problem. So when you're
doing that and it happens too often, you are exactly
what you allow. So you allow that or you allow dude.
I'm telling you, Dinny Green was if you were putting
your pads on during stretching lines and because you were
running late, you were late to practice. Get that crap
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handled inside the building. It drove him nuts and those
things started. Then one guy does it and the next guy.
Before you know it, you're kind of flopping around and
before you know it, you've got ten more penalties on Sunday,
or if you're jumping off sides or pre snap penalties
or undisciplined with helmet to the helmet to helmet contact,
whatever it is. Now. Sometimes players are just playing, dude,
and they're gonna go too hard and they're gonna hit
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somebody late because they're being aggressive. I get that, but
it's those unforced Look at the do you realize the
Chicago Bears in their own building had four illegal procedure
penalties in the first quarter alone, or was three in
the first and one second, but early first seventeen minutes
a game, they had four legal procedure penalties. You should
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have four of those in fifteen games. It's just inexcusable.
And so if it's happening here, and if he says
he just can't keep happening, well that's and I don't know,
it's got to start with him. It's because if you're
a guy in practice and you're the right guard, just
using that example, and you jump off sides three times
in practice, dude, it gets to the point I'm just
telling you. And that's probably why I stay away from
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coaching the resk because they don't want my insensitivity. They
just don't, okay, Because while I'm a self esteem builder,
I'm also a realist. And if you're a grown man, dude,
if you jump off sides three times, you're not playing.
If that's the case, you'll come off the bench if
you're hurting my team that much. So why Pete Carroll
is the running back position, we'd have four running backs.
Pete made him compete every frig you earned the job
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during the practice week. You remember when sc was starting,
they'd start three different running backs each week, and hell,
they all three of them were good. You earned it
during the practice week, all the truth Monday, that's right too,
you earned it during the practice week. So if you're
one of those guys, that's just you know, slapping it
around and you just say, well, I'm here. If your
drop malls are jumping off sides, they're not coming out
of the huddle properly, guess what, I'll start the other
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guy until you realize that you're going to practice the
way you play. Now, some guys, Lawrence Taylor didn't really
practice much, but on Sundays he turned it loose. So
I didn't have problem with it, okay, Kenny easily, okay,
But Kenny Easley was never going to jump off sides
in practice. That makes sense. So you're allowed. And I
don't know if to me. You know, I love Tomiko,
but we're not there, so I don't know how they're
handling meetings. I know, damn well for me. That's why
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Mike Shanahan put cameras in his meeting room. Mike Shanahan
put cameras in his meeting room to the point where
he was watching like you would if you're watching a
security bit. You know, the the board that how your
coach was coaching during the meetings. Now it's invasive. It
feels like, dude, this is my team, but it's his team.
And Mike Shanahan also wanted to make sure he knew
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what coffee was in the build. You talking about a
micro he's a Tony LaRussa. But he got busy, he
got results. So however you handle your business, we get
to but you are gonna You are exactly what you'll tolerate.
And if it continues, it'll tell me that the team
he is undisciplined on the practice field. So whoever you
want to put that on. But normally when we talk
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about penalties and personal fouls and jumping off sides, you
know who we point to, the head coach. Now I
don't know if that's the case here, but I can
tell he hates it. So how do you fix it?
You either get it fixed yourself, or you replace the
coach or the player who's playing it and coaching it.
It's pretty simple. You are exactly what you tolerate in marriage,
You're exactly what you tolerate in friendships. You're exactly you
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tolerate from your boss. Or your coworker. You're exactly what
you tolerate from a teammate, and you're exactly who you
are what you tolerate from a player. And I don't
really give a rats ask who you are. If you
decide that you think you can practice half asked. I
got a good idea for you. Come and sit next
to the guy who actually decided that he wasn't going
to jump off sides four times. I can promise you
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with all my heart, Laramie Tunssell. And I wasn't there.
Laramie Tunsseell had personal I mean, he had prestat penalties
in practice numerous times. I guarant asked to it get
into the game. Nobody's corrected, we can't do it. Okay, buddy,
we'll get we'll get it fixed. Just make sure on
Sunday you don't do it. Bam three and one half.
You're now playing in Washington. Okay. So, but you are
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what you tolerate. And I don't know if it's Tamiko,
but I know it drives and crazy. It's gonna get
you well, you'll lose most of the time, unless you're
the old school Raiders and Steelers who had Hall of
famers and pro bowlers at every friggin position that they
can overcome a personal foul because the next three times
they hit you, they're separating you from the ball and
they're recovering it. Oh well, but those are the aberration,
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the outlier. Undisciplined teams do not win championships because at
the wrong time they jump off sides and now it's
third and fifteen instead of third and ten. You get
twelve yards on third down. Then on fourth down they blitch,
you'll force you to throw hot you throw it into
the ground fourth down, the turnover boom. That team controls
the ball, you end up losing a game. It's rare
that you can. If you're losing penalties and losing turnovers,
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you're losing games. And if you're not scoring touchdowns in those,
you got no shot to win games. I love DMKO Ryans,
but whatever it is, they got to get to the
bottom of this constant groundhog day crap that we saw
last year. If they don't, they'll win ten games. Because
it's the division. They'll find themselves getting eliminated in the
divisional round of the wildcard depending on what they are
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and if they're the division winner, and then we'll go
from there. But self inflicted they're not good enough to
overcome self inflicted here offensively. They can overcome some things defensively,
but i'd rather have you go one hundred miles an
hour and making that error. Then you're in your three
point stance or in your two point stance. And because
you got an edge rusher who's a wide nine that
you just don't have discipline enough to make ball movement
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because you're afraid of getting your ass handed to you.
Did you practice like that? I always ask did you
practice like that? And did the coaches allow it? So
you got to coach your coaches. So I don't know
what's going on there, but I can tell you this.
They we're an undisciplined team last year, and they are
an undisciplined team in game one, So prove otherwise.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
You're gonna have sixteen more chances to be able to
do exactly that, and the Texans will get that next
chance Monday night against the Bucks. We'll continue the Texans
conversation here in this hour, but we didn't have a
chance to get to this yesterday. Who's in the wrong here? Well,
I think you're I think my answer might surprise some people.
We'll discuss here. It is a Shawn Salisbury show Sports
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