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Saulsbury Salisbury, Houston. Okay,let's do this. Shawn Salisbury, lay
there, long time friend, ChefSalisbury, Bryan la Lima Lobos to the
same king chop to come, donaway and dig. This is the Shawn

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Salisbury Show. Good morning, Houston, Welcome into the Sewn Salisbury Show here
on Sports Talk seven. I needSean Salisbury, Brian Limamanuel Elmore. Texans
get another w. They beat theBroncos yesterday at NRG Stadium. College football
playoffs are set. University of Houstonhiring a new head football coach and that

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is Willie Fritz. Shawn Tripley.Good morning. The Texans got a little
got a little dicey at the end, but they hung on good defensive stop.
Derek Stingly had a couple interceptions.CJ. Stre Out played well,
but they lose Tank Dell. Eitherway, they get the dub. Yeah,
that's why depth is so important.And again it's another body. Nico
Collins had a monster day yesterday anda couple things that stick out is that

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they catch the ball when they gota chance to pick it off. And
I know that sounds so elementary,but it's true. They made some plays
yesterday on the ball that was inthe air that could ended up the wrong
way, And they gave every reasonto give you a chance to lose that
game yesterday, But they would havelast year, and they would have the
year before they'd lost. But somehowthey come up with great play forced Russ

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Wilson to make a horrible decision inthe red zone, and he didn't make
a lot of great decisions yesterday.He threw some balls that were ill advised
or late. They pressured him goingforward. They're fortunate at this stage of
the game they've got some really goodplaymakers and that they can get it done.
And their receiving core obviously was underratedduring the season. I didn't think
CJ. Stroud played as sharp agame as he's used to. I thought

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the offensive line was suspect. Ithought the defense was damn good yesterday.
They gave up some plays, andthey also made some big plays offensively with
some home runs that they needed tohit. But they did an excellent job
of staying it the course, whetheryou dealt with a penalty and finishing,
and this team would not have wonthat game last five years, and they

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found a way yesterday. It wasimpressive the way they want. I don't
care how they win. Everybody wantsit to look pretty. That's not football.
Can ask the Chiefs how they're feelingtoday. I can roll through a
bunch of teams. You can askthem how they're feeling to they ask the
Philadelphia Eagles how they feel in theirown building getting curb stomped in front of
their own fans during December, andthe forty nine ers went in and sent

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a loud message, so you'll takethese anyway you can frig and get them.
And it was not a pretty one. But this is how you find
out who you are man. AndI think the Texans are starting to realize
that they can win some games andthey're not playing their best. It used
to be you got to play greatfootball. You're not winning, it's just
the way it is, or you'renot winning. And now this team didn't

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play great yesterday. Defensively, Iwas really impressed, but offensively they were
you know, tried to commit tothe run. Offensive line gave up too
many runs. And I thought thatc. J. Stroud missthrows that he
would not normally miss, and yethe still makes some big plays, still
make some clutch throws, get somegood catches out of it, and they
did enough and defensively to force RussWilson into looking pretty average yesterday three picks

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and a touchdown. But Denver hungin there too because they got after our
quarterback a lot. I didn't thinkwe were very good in sound protecting c.
J. Stroud, so it lookeddifferent, but the result was huge.
They stay in it. I don'tknow how Denver is going to overcome
this and make the playoffs, buthey, they start out what one and
five and then win five in aroero put themselves back into it. So

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it was impressed. So around thesports world it was there was a lot
of messages sent yesterday and now's thetime you know who people are and now
it's going to find out can yougut it out? But seven and five
huge win by the Colts yesterday aswell. Tennessee Titans man Brian Tannehill holding
point after tries and they get intoovertime and they damn near take up the

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entire overtime with that drive kick afield goal and then blow it. Yeah,
I mean just they they stink anda hell of a you know,
a hell of a nice throw atthe end there, and I love the
route. There was just some reallygood things done yesterday in NFL, and
there's still some. It's some sloppyfootball. Please please, we the referees.
We know how poor there, buteverybody, the referees not out to

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get the textans. Stop at people, just stop it. There's bad calls
in every game, every single gamefor every team. There's horrendous calls every
single week. When Jean's terotor hasto come on during a game and say
I would let them, I wouldlet these guys play more, and then
it got reversed where it wasn't calledthough he said, you know I would

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do these guys. It is football. It was a low hit. I
can't remember what game was. Itwas the Texans. It was Petrie.
No, I'm sorry. It wasthe forty and Eagles, right, No,
No, it wasn't that game either. Was it the forty nine er
Philly game? Early? Somebody gotsmacked, but it was they threw a

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personal foul. It was the Texans. I'm pretty sure was Petrie. Yeah,
it was Petrie on a hit andhe threw his shoulder pad into the
chest area and they threw a penaltyon it. But They didn't call targeting.
They called personal foul roughing the passer. Yeah, I was on Russell
Wilson and Jean's territory came across andhe said for me, I would not
call it. He said Petrie wasalready committed to making the tackle. Was
it Petrie? It was Petrie?Yeah, okay, because yeah, I

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mean he rocked Jimmy Ward There wasthat one as well, and he I
mean he Jimmy No, oh yeah, might have been Jimmy Ward or Petrie,
one of those. I think itwas where he said he was already
committed to going low. And thenthe it was Jimmy Warden player went low
as well because he got hit bysomebody else and they fortunately didn't kick him
out. And it was Jeane Steretarsaying, yes, at some point in

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time, we got to let theseguys play tab basically saying we didn't play
tack football. Things were saying,so you're gonna get him in every game.
The loser's lament is all the fansand media and all of us bitch
and complain, and the team bitchesand complaints and makes excuses and get beat.
The winner's way to do it isyet sucks. We'll complain, we
don't like it, but we're goingto overcome those penalties anyway and get a

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stop in a red zone when everybodythought. I was convinced, as I'm
sure you were, that they weregoing down to win. Russ Wilson's done
this plenty of times in his career. They're going down to win. And
he forced his ball in the back. First of all, the first two
throws and decisions and routes were notsharp. On the third one, throws
are back there and made it tootoo, and you got to know that
you got a fourth down and hedidn't. And it was a great finish

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by the Texans to not sit thereand pout about, oh yeah, we're
getting beat by because everybody there's callsboth ways all day long, every day.
They're gonna miss him. So butthe fact that they overcame this team
would not have They wouldn't have beengood enough to, they wouldn't have been
well coached enough to, and theywouldn't have been savvy enough to go and
win these games at the end thatthey've won two or three times this year

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in situations like this, and especiallywhen you didn't if they'd played their best
football and had to come up withan interception at the end, I'd say,
listen, they are talent wise,there are ways away. But you
start to look at every position,and I mean every group. You got
to as long as Tunsle doesn't killyou with me, every year, he's
good. He's got to be leadingthe league in penalties every year. I'm

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just kidding, but it feels likeevery week they're so either he's a holding
or a legal procedure start. Imean always. And that also cost Denver
stupidity on the CJ. Stroud playwhen you had a five yard penalty that
would have made them kick, andinstead of that, you gave them an
automatic first down on a personal foulbecause you were getting a little testy with

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them and ref called it and thattrumpsa and you. That's just Those are
the undisciplined plays that the other team, meaning the Texans, did not make.
So I just I'm just telling youthey would not have won games like
this in their past. They wouldnot have. And being poised is a
new energy created by the leadership inthis building because the pass would have gotten

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away from them. This would havegotten away from them, giving up sacks
and penalties and all here we goagain, Russell Wilson's driving down and then
not this time. They made agreat play and like I said, they
caught the ball. How many timesyou see a catching an enzone that could
have been an interception, the guydrops his next play a throw touchdown pass.
Yeah, quite happens all the time. And you know Stingley going up

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and making a tough catch on adeep ball. I mean, they just
did some really really impressive things yesterdayto get the win. And across sports
and with the University of Houston gettinga new coach, one thing I do
have a problem with. Tulane putout something the day that Willie Fritz had
told them a week ago or acouple of days ago, maybe just before
the AAC Championship. And I thinkhe's a great coach. He's staying.

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He's not like I saw the theyhad conferred they said yesterday. I read
it unless it was fake, butit was from Tulane that Willie Fritz had
confirmed that he was going to stay. This was before he made this decision.
I'm not leaving. I'm going tostay, and the next thing,
you know, he leaves. Sothat that's the only part that if I
I just and if if it didhappen came I mean it was a it

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was a now unless it was somebodymaking it up, but it was on
an official really. I just wasscrolling Twitter yesterday and saw it. Now,
maybe I'm wrong, but if thatis the case and you tell your
school you're leaving or you're staying andthen you turn around and leave, that
that that's always bothered me. AndI love this is as good a coach
as you could have got, andhe seeing as a man of it seems

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like of his word and everything else. But they had had read where it
said pre AAC game, I'm stayingin Tulane, and then post AAC game
He's leaving Tulane. The I justdon't lie. I'm just one. If
you know you're leaving, just justsay it. Just say it, or
don't say anything at all. Notthat that matters, because you got if

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you're Houston, you don't really care. You're going to recruit the best coach
available and you got him. ButI'm always just in if that was the
case, and you know, likeI said, it could be somebody that
was just being a wise ass aboutit. But it looked official from so
the David Harris, the director ofAthletic Chair, he put out a post

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yesterday that said coach Frish and Fritzinformed us this morning that he intended to
accept the head coach and position ofthe University of Houston. Yeah, well
there was another one before that thatsaid that he had intended to stay.
We'll look and if it was,it's not even just a matter of fake
news that I was into it,just scrolling and I read it and it
looked like it came from from theit was. It was in it.

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It was like it quote tweeted andand it looked like it came from the
university, and maybe they deleted itor what have you. Either way,
if he did tell him, Ilove the fact that we got him here.
I was going to say, betweenhim and UTSA, you you couldn't
go wrong, and to get WillieFritz here is great. If he did
inform them pre game, if whathe said, if that's fair, if

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it was, if that's the wayit is, that's the way it should
be. And that's the compliment thathe deserves for when you tell somebody you're
leaving, you leave, or youtell somebody you're staying, you stay,
and those I like guys like that. And Texas is getting I mean the
since state of Texas, but thecity of Houston's getting one hell of a
coach. So hopefully that was somebodyout there being a wise ass, or

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the press release was wrong or whathave you. But it was, like
I said, it's not some justforty person thing. I'll try to find
it. I may have even markedit, but I like the fact that
he's here. I think the Texansin the in the in the unit,
Houston Cougars and what's going on inthis town heading the right football direction,
really are and you get a greatcoach that My question is, is it

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in it's an upgrade to the Bigtwelve? But if you're right now,
who's a better football team Tulane oreven though they got beat Tulane. Yeah,
And so there's some I read abunch of comments about it's a lateral
move for coach and stuff. It'snot because you're up to the Big twelve,
right, Houston's got potential to bereally good. Watch how quickly this
team turns around. Now, Yeah, would not doubt a Willie. So
hopefully he did tell them he wasleaving as opposed to this, or somebody's

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misquoting him or seeing saying that,because I don't ever be the first to
really I just reading it and thinking, did he really tell him this and
now he's leaving? Doesn't sound likethe way he's approached his football career.
Yeah, Willie Fritz, I thinkis the right man for the job,
especially with his ties here to thecity and being able to recruit is going
to be a big, big factorfor the University of Houston. All right,

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let's keep talking Texans. Demiko Ryans. What did he have to say
after the game about the effort andgetting that big time win over the Broncos.
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Another one, another one, anotherone. We the best Muleshi major key,
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Welcome back to the Shawn Salisbury Showhere on Sports Talk seven Hoey, Shawn
Bryan and triple a year with youTexans beating the Broncos. Take Dale out
for the season with a broken ankle. College football playoffs set, Michigan versus

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Alabama, Texas versus Washington, gottons of college football to get into.
Willie Fritz hired as a new headcoach for the University of Houston. We're
talking Texans and the win over theBroncos. Demiko Ryan's address this team in
the locker room after the win,and this is what Coach Ryan's had to
say, Hey, unbelievable job man. We talked about undeniable strain mentally and

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physically, and that's what it wasyou guys put it on display right to
focus and finish the way we finishedthat game. We talked about it last
night. Attacked the ball, attackedthe ball, attacked the ball. He
finds great jog Steve, Steve,and then the most important one the fantasy

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game. Hey wants to win.We talked about it, right, we
win this. We put ourselves ina better position. You guys did that,
you strain, you pushed to theend. We put ourselves in a
better position. Now what we doright? Nobody satisfied. We're not satisfied.

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A lot of things to clean up, a lot of things get better,
budd It's much better than doing that. The way I'm Believable's ad white,
guys proud is the hell of ball. You guys, all right,
let's just keep pushing, keep pussy, keep push, Wait, do way
do do what? That has thebig o Ryans and the fellas filling it

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after a twenty two to seventeen win. Talking about that defense. Guys on
the offense, Nico Collins nine receptions, one hundred and ninety one yards,
one touchdown, Brevin Jordan getting someaction with Dalton Schultz being out three receptions,
sixty four yards. You had aJohn Metchi with a catch in a
couple of yards, but Nico Collinslean the way CJ. Stroud in the

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wins sixteen to twenty seven, twohundred and seventy four yards, one touchdown.
They had some big play Sean,you hit on that a little bit
earlier. Nico Collins fifty nine yards, Brevin Jordan twenty seven yards. Running
game really not much of a factor. Fifteen carries for Damian Appears forty and
a touchdown. Devin Singletary eight carriesand thirty six yards. Did you say

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Nico Collins fifty nine yards? Oneof them was a fifty nine yards big
plays. Yeah, he had onehundred ninety one yards. Yeah, I
was gonna say he was pushing twohundred yards. Yeah. Well, the
big plays they gave up the weekbefore, they made quite a few of
those. On the other end,they still weren't as sharp as they could
be. He had he missed somethrows that he will he'd make with his
eyes closed. Yeah, the onewhere they were running through and they had

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a little drop shot that he overthrew. He overthrew a couple of balls that
he normally won't miss. But that'sokay. That's called playing the position,
and it's called half of the gutout wins and deal with it. Look
across the league yesterday at what wenton. I mean, hell, New
Orleans spotted his the Detroit twenty one. Nothing in Detroit like Detroit always has
allowed somebody to come back in itand trying to get the close. Pittsburgh

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was awful yesterday and their own building. That game was delayed. I mean
you look all over there's a lotof distractions that go on, drop balls,
penalties, weather, and then nextthing you know, you got a
chance to lose a game, andinstead of finding a lose, they found
ways to win. Now that it'sseven and five, and all they have
to do, which is easier saidthan done, is take care of your
own stuff. Just take care ofyour own business and the rest take care

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of u stuff. Won't be easyagainst the Colts. The Titans are hanging
in. I mean, you're infor one hell of a run here in
December, and at seven and fivein December, we said at the beginning
here, if they could get tothis point, we're in December. They
were in it. After like thefirst few weeks we'd talked about, Hey,
this team's pretty good after the firstmonth, and they are in it
and it is December, and they'vegot a legitimate chance now as a playoff

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in the Hunt team and it's gonnabe a fun watch. And make sure.
How about that, when's the lasttime you were interested in Texans football
in December? Uh? What sincetwenty nineteen? It's been a minute,
So about four years ago. It'sbeen a minute. Yep, I guess
that's is that? What it isis that when they lost to the Chiefs.
Is that the year if it isso, that's the last time you
were really for this time of year, had had winning in your in your

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head, knowing that you had achance. Yeah, and you look at
it head next week they got theJets and the Jets are awful. Yeah,
the Jets have started the our teamplays hard talk. I saw that,
Yeah, sala, which nice toJames McDonough when that starts, well,
we play hard. Yeah, Iheard it here last year in the
year before. Our team plays hard. When you start that that, you're

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basically saying we got no shot.That's it, we have zero shot.
When you start telling me your teamplays hard, thanks, because if Robert
sala Is reverted to our team playshard, then Robert sala and his team,
he's and needs to coach harder.Start a running back at quarterback.
If you're starting quarterback can't play,and you know they made it doesn't matter

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who the quarterback is right now,they're just not It doesn't matter if it's
boiled, doesn't matter who it is. They're not good offensively whatever. The
quarterback's not very good, so theyyeah, they play hard. I'm not
complimenting any team in my life everfor playing hard. Ever, if you
got to play hard, unless itwas a bunch of guys were on one
you know, all had torn handstrings and had to go play, that's
a different story. Playing hard isnot the a we play hard, well,

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you should. You get paid alot of money. Are you coaching
hard too? You get paid alot of money. Robert sala Is a
whether it's him or the team,don't start preaching that we play hard.
Thing. We play hard just anotherway of saying we're not any good,
so give us a little bit ofbreak. At least we play hard.
Oh okay, And now that that'snot something I'm not If you got a
coach playing hard. Then you probablytime for Robert Solid to move on to

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another coaching gig too. If that'sthe case, let's hope that that's not
his message to his team. Yeah, we heard that from Lovey Smith every
week all the time last year.Yeah, we play hard. Great,
everybody's jobs on the line. Youshould be playing hard. It's what you're
supposed that's what you get paid todo. You don't get a compliment for
playing hard. Sorry, even ifyou're I don't care if you're one and
fourteen. You don't get a complimentfor playing hard. That was literally the

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theme of the season. Well,my guys play hard. That's the way
is that's the way. That's thepat answer you give when you really when
you're lost. We play hard.Eight awesome. You still play bad,
but you play hard. So maybeyou got to teach him better or coach
him better. They got gotta getbetter players because playing hard didn't do it.
I can find it. I canfind anybody off the street to play

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hard, But can you play smarterand win? And that team doesn't right
now. Derek Sting looked pretty goodyesterday, made some really good plays.
Yeah, he catches when he's onthe field. There. You see why
they drafted him, or they didahead of Sauce Gardner. You you see
it right now. Every when he'son the field. That's why the intrigue
with him all the way back towhen he was a freshman at LSU.

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That's why they drafted him because theseplays and he catches the ball when it's
near them most of the time,when it's near it, he's a finisher
and he just got to keep themon the field. And when he's on
the field, you get one ofthe best young corners in all of football.
Yeah. I believe four interceptions inthe last three weeks. He had
to yesterday. It's pretty good.Yeah, Yeah, he's way Yeah.

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There was three straight games with thepick and they grabbed his second one,
so it was a hell of it. It's been a hell of a run,
Sugar. Yeah, it sure has. That's why they drafted him as
high as they did. And whenhe like you said, when he's healthy,
he's he's all over the place.Jalen Petri's all over the place.
Desmond King for the defense as well, Jimmy Ward, I mean Will Anderson.
I've got some numbers that will gothrough from Will Anderson he had a
big day yesterday, so a lotof good things for the defense. C

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Broncos yesterday. They got a newa little shoving match. He talks about
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Show. Yell me hod maintain thatin Houston, Texans beat the Broncos at

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an RG Stadium yesterday. College footballplayoffic set Michigan versus Alabama, Texas versus
Washington. Willie Fritz hired as thenew head coach for the University of Houston
football, leaving Tulane. They lostin the A a C Championship. Now
Fritz will come here to Houston andtry to build the football program back up.

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We're talking Texans. C J.Stroud and Alex Singleton got into it.
Alex Singleton, one of the linebackersfor the Broncos, shoved him after
a WHISTLEJ. Stroud did like it. He talks about the little scuffle after
the game. And this is whatStroud said, tough with what was going
on on that moment, flying backerthe false stars and you sitt your ground.

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I'm a man and I'm not gonnalet somebody just come push me,
especially in my house, like you'renot gonna just touch me after the whistle.
You clearly hear it. And I'mnot mad at that dude, like
he playing alright, try to hemaybe try to sow he didn't, but
I ain't like it, and Igotta control my composure at the same time
with a man and uh like justshe saying I'm standing on business. So

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uh but nah, man, Yeah, I just I don't know. I
appreciate my brothers having my back.That was one thing I look for.
George was on it, everybody youknow. So, but I gotta be
I gotta be calm in that momentand have composure. And I feel like
I have throughout the year. Buttime and time again, I keep getting
hit. I keep getting my facemask pool all type of stuff. And
I'm not mad. I guess Igotta earn it because I'm rookie or whatever.

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But I don't get a lot ofcalls, and I gotta stand on
business. And I understand, like, man, I'm a it's a fight
for for sixty minutes with me.You ain't gonna just come hit me and
I'm gonna talk my tail. SoI'm not mad at that. Dude.
And I talked about the game andeverything's hard. Standing on business, didn't
we just talk about this a coupleof days ago, Standing on business,

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Standing on business, Yes, yougotta stand on business. You gotta stand
on business. Yeah, don't standon business. You probably gets your ass,
kid, probably some times you gotto stand on business. Just don't
throw that punch back, because that'sthe one that gets caught right there you
go. Yeah, a little firefrom us C. J. Stroud yesterday
during that little scuffle. If youwill, I mean I would, I
would have a most quart. Allsyou gotta do is step up and chest

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up a little bit, say I'mnot gonna take it. And you know
you tough it up a little bitwhen you do that. So I don't
blame. Don't back then, juststand on business. Yeah, he probably
told Alex Singleton, Hey, man, you're not gonna push me. I'm
staying on business, especially in myhouse, right exactly. You're you got
to stand on business in your ownkitchen. You feel me, dog,
Yeah, Because if you're scared,get the hell out. If you're scared
by a fork, buy a dog, just by Just buy a bigger fork

(27:08):
or a spoon. Yeah, buya couple of coffee. You're scared by
something from your kitchen, Do youprefer when they're in your kitchen to turn
your microwave on? If they turnyour microwave on in your own kitchen,
it's on, they're not, they'renot, yeah, exactly. Yeah,
So you stand on business, especiallyin your own house, stand home business
man. Funny, we just talkedabout it. Somebody roll up in this

(27:30):
studio, they're better be prepared tostand on business. Thank you, and
good night. Exact our house rightexactly, you're coming in here. Sometimes
our house is left a little alittle bit, a little bit of trash
or two on the ground, butwe clean it up, all right.
We'll come in and see what wedo. We come in clean our house.
And if you roll up on usduring the show and try to dirty,
you know, drop a piece ofpaper on the ground and you pick

(27:51):
it up. We stand on business, not on your on your trash sitting
in the ground. It ain't happening. Not this, not this crib not
in this house, not this cribbo. No shot. Yeah, let's go
out to the phone line seven sevenIneing's go to Andy Andy. Good morning,
hey guys. One thing we knowafter that game, we know that
Demiko is listening to the Alls radiostation because they keep they keep scoring more

(28:15):
points than the other team and they'rewinning. Well besides that, you know,
you guys. I'm glad you guyspoint that out every week because without
that, Lord knows, we wouldn'tknow what they want to watch football exactly.
But the blitzes yesterday, I meanand those defensive ends. We're having
a field day. And you sawwhat happens when that happens. Three interceptions

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and Russell Wilson didn't get off atall. But you know what, why
so many first down runs in thesecond half? And I bet we were
minus yards on first down runs yesterday? Yeah? Say about that? So
thank you? Yeah, I listen. I understand why they're trying to do

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it. I've always said, youdon't have to establish the run by forcing
the run on first down. Establishingthe run doesn't mean running it on first
down. That doesn't I mean,I'm so, I'm with you, Andy,
I get it. I think there'sa part of me that thought they
probably played it a little closer tothe vest on first down, which I'm
not There's other ways to get highpercentage without having to run it. Maybe

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they fell, they were gett alittle more pushed than you and I felt.
And I also don't think that theyfelt overly comfortable with pass protection yesterday
because they didn't look like it.I could tell you that, but I'm
with you. You know sometimes whatyou want going into a game and a
game plan, and trust me,I've been there as a player and calling
plays in the US Army All Americangame. Is it? Sometimes you think

(29:45):
this is what we want to doand before you know it, it's not
you. It's not It doesn't lookto you guys in the stands or somewhere
else, or to us like itdoes when you're down on the field.
There's a feeling. And so Iassure you, Andy, and like I
said, I'm with you that notcalling runs just to piss us off or
to go three and out. Theyare seeing something that says we can get

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something out of it. But I'mnot a believer in squarepeg round whole thing.
I do not believe and happen toforce something that may not be there,
especially when you know where your bestwhere where your best players are,
I mean, and we're your bestchance to win is But I think they
felt also their defense was doing ahell of a job and you can shorten
the game. But once again,every time we question this, the next

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week they come up and be aggressiveand take care of it. So I
get the frustration, but the positivesof this are on the defensive side,
and you mentioned they were relentless.And if you question whether Will Anderson at
some point in time was the pickbecause he didn't have a number of sacks,
don't people are raving about him ona regular basis. And his play

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smart high IQ football is not whenyou're getting blocked, keep your hands down
and allow them to make a quickthrow. Smart football is I can't get
to the quarterback, how do Idisrupt his path to throw? Well,
you jump up and you get aslight tip of the ball which which offsets
it two yards inside for an easypick for the corner. They had to

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make a good catch. But onRuss Wilson's in the quick game, just
a smart football play and that's willAnderson getting the tip on it where got
a little bit of tip just enoughwhere it went from spiral headed in the
right direction to wobble headed in thewrong direction and you finish. That was
a big play in the game.So I'm with you. Everything's not going
to work in sixty five to seventyfive plays every week. And what they

(31:29):
see maybe different we see in theflow of a game, but we know
what their strength is and it's definitelynot constantly running on a first down and
they overcame that yesterday in the end, Thank goodness for defense. And sometimes
you got to get better all thetime. You have to have one area
play better than maybe another area is, and that was the case. Offense
was decent yesterday, really good attimes and at times very inconsistent Defensively,

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they got after it and played smartfootball and finished when it and I loved
it. Let's go to Tom,Tom, welcome in good Martin Ja com
in terrific win. Now we geton the road, another playoff game going
in New York. I want tosay one thing about that win yesterday.

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Will Anderson had a pro Bowl performanceyesterday. Now I don't think that's I
per believe it. Teams they playaway from this player, and somehow he
always is in the mix. That'sa special quality. Sean, you could
touch on that better than I can. I'm just so proud of this team.

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I look at them and I'm atthe end of my seat in the
fourth quarter, and like my daughtersaid to me yesterday, Dad, it's
a lot more fun sitting at theend of the seat than it is sitting
back belching. And that's how Ifeel about this team. I'll take sitting
at the end of my seat inthe fourth quarter waiting for that team to
make plays them the other way around. It's exciting to see. I love

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the development of this team to meetthose words that I've heard this morning on
the radio Sean talk about that,talk about what their mindset needs to be.
Now they're getting on the road,they're packing their stuff and they're going
to play. Uh. Was essentiallyanother playoff team, especially on the road.
You guys do a great job.Will Anderson man, this guy,

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Wow, what else can I say? Stuff? Oh, I'm with you.
That's why just before you came ontalking about him. You know,
he played in a defense that waslike a Reid defense when he was at
Alabama and still came up with playafter play after play As they continue to
go on, and his aggressiveness isn'treed, it's just cut it loose.

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Look out the guys like this whohave high football IQ. Not that they
play hard. He plays hard,but high football like Q doesn't take plays
off. He's just a smart footballplayer. Eventually, you're around the football
all the time, and he ishe is. You play away from him.
Guys like that run plays down.You get to the point. The
hardest thing to do for guys likethat young in the league is play at

(34:05):
you. When people are playing atyou in your hallway on a regular base.
That's the hardest thing to do.You start to get that where you're
taking on three hundred and twenty poundtackles and stunning them and getting a double
at times from a tight end,a back chipping with a tight end,
or a tight end helping before hegets out. Will Anderson's going to be
a great player in this league.When all is said and done, you
may very well say the two bestplayers coming out of this draft may end

(34:27):
up being the two guys that arehere a decade from now. In strouding
him, Will Anderson was the bestplayer on the field yesterday. Now,
Nico collinsbas says, statistically, ifI'm go about playing and play out,
Stingley makes great play, you couldput him in there all. I mean,
the three best players on the fieldyesterday, and Denver's front seven was
pretty good. But you saw,and you also saw why Dimiko Ryans has

(34:49):
respect for the statistic. The statisticssay we can run it all day on
him. But the respect he saidgoing into the week was they can with
their five guys over, they couldstop the run. And they did.
But I was so much respect forWill Anderson. You just we just got
to let these guys play and findtheir way. When you're trying to find
your way mentally and then physically,you still got to make plays. It's

(35:10):
hard to do. You saw everysingle week Will anders is starting to get
more. Then you're no longer justlike what am I doing on this play?
You're just playing and he is afootball playing Jesse and so you're exactly
right. And I could say playand play out for consistency wise, you
know you're gonna get two interception withstingleying all the catches by Collins and that's

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one thing. But Will Anderson thatwas not That was a definite Pro Bowl
performance and it would have you ifyour an opponent watching, you're saying,
what's this cat going to be likein three years? As they continue to
build this, this will end upputting Nick Cassario and the way that these
guys have played in Tank Dell inthe Executive of the Year conversation. If
it doesn't, then they're not watchingthe Texans play football. And the mindset

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real quick, Tom has to beand we come back and talk about it
very simple. We are seven andfive, and in truth, they do
control their own way to it.That's twelve games. You take care of
four of these, next five,you are in the playoffs by with without
question, take care of four ofthem in you're in right take You don't
have to win all five, buttake care of four of them. What's

(36:13):
that get you to do? Elevenand seven, eleven, six, eleven
and six? Right, yeah,and you at least give yourself a fighting
chance with ten. What you dois you say we're no longer going on
to the road. This is abusiness trip that everybody knows. We walk
into the building like we belong,prepare like a backup, and play like
starters, and go win this game. You don't want to lose this one

(36:35):
like you did against Carolina and costyourself a chance. Right, these are
the ones you've got to find outwhat kind of focused football team you have.
Let's look more at will Anderson's gameyesterday. Let's get some of these
numbers. We'll talk about an next. In sports TLOK seven ninety, The
Sean Salisbury Show continues on your smartTV. Listen to Sports Talk seven ninety

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on any device with our free iHeartRadioapp I'm Shorts Talked seven ninety. Shop

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Salisbury trip le Lima, I'm sean, It's creep victory Monday seven and five
the Texans Will Anderson phone number sevenone three two on two five seven ninety
and Will Anderson's performance was not justrookie, UH player of the week worthy,

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It was you know, your defensiveplayer of the week worthy. It
was, uh, just a phenomenaleffort and smart effort by him to make
a lot of plays. And theguys who show up when the statistics don't
show it awesome, and then whenthey show up and they're kicking ass and

(37:57):
stats show it as well. Buthe's done that a lot this year where
you're like, well, what arethe numbers? But you keep and you've
heard Demiko Ryans and people talk abouthow good he's played, and you got
to see it on display again yesterday. Man, it was impressive. Yeah.
Will Anderson's numbers yesterday two sacks,two tackle for losses, five tackles,
four QB hits, seven pressures,one tip pass that led to an
interception, one tip punt that ledto great field position. Find me a

(38:22):
better performance yesterday, not just sacksfrom somebody in overall performance then Will Anderson's
yesterday on the defense side, well, especially at a time when they desperately
needed it, considering the way thatthey were giving up sacks and not as
consistent as they needed to be onoffense. Yeah, and another thing that
he does is he allows other guysto get their plays in, like guys

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like Jonathan Garnard. Jonathan Garnard hadanother good game. Three solo tackles,
one sack, one tackle for loss, two QB hits, pressures galore from
Jonathan Garnard, four total tackles.He had a good game. Blake Cashman,
Denzel Paramanne. Just the defense showedup yesterday. You know what they
did, Sean, They showed upand showed out. Yeah, they did.

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They sure did. And he hasI mean that ability to be able
to be involved in a run game, be involved in the pass game,
meaning defensively, being able a wayto defend it. And Jonathan Grenard,
as you mentioned, it is goingto be that guy's got an inate ability
to get to the quarterback. Yeah, he's got a pass rushing skill.

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And the way that that pass rushingskill and the way you finish even gets
better is by having a guy thateverybody, as we move forward says that's
the guy you got to stop,meaning Will Anderson. And what ends up
happening is that other guys become stars. And that's what they're creating there.
This front seven is going to besomething to be reckoned with, and Will

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Anderson is going to be a bigpart of being the reason that they're moving
forward. A pretty dominant group.They've got a ways to go. But
you think about the positions Petrie,I mean the contribution from King, I
mean everybody getting into the act yesterday. That's when you know your defense is
at another level. It's not twoguys, it's eleven or twelve or thirteen
or fourteen that are coming off thebench to help to Yeah, Desmond King

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yesterday, ten total tackles, fiveof those solos, one tackle for loss.
Do you remember back in twenty twentywhen they were doing the draft and
it was during the COVID stuff andeverybody had to kind of be virtual and
remote and all that, And BillO'Brien was sitting behind two monitors and he
has his glasses on and they keptgoing back to him during that draft,
and he had like a little tempertantrum. Do you remember that? When

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I'm talking about John, Yeah,do you know who they drafted in that
moment when he kind of freaked out? Was it who it was? Jonathan
Grenard? Oh? Was it?Yeah? And there was a lot to
be made that people thought that hewas upset that they drafted Jonathan Garnard in
the third round. Yeah, wellthey're not upset anymore. They got a
football player and he's withstood it sincehe's been here, and he really is.

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There's a he's got a pass rusha skill set. He's got a
eight sex years, That's what I'msaying. He's got a There are certain
guys that just have a unique abilityto get that are just better at rushing
the passer than others. Whether it'smore moves understand it's just like the guys
who are accurate with the football.So there are certain parts of pass rushing

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you can't teach him. They justhave an ability to know when to dip,
understand when to you know, bullrush a guy and Grenard's got a
skill set that as you continue toteach it, maximize it will get better.
But he's got the foundation and basefor He's one of those guys you
go watch at a camp or yougo watch in a pro day, or
go watch during practice. I'm noteven talking about the live stuff, and

(41:40):
you just watch because there a certainguys I can go watch throw football and
you're like, all right, theball comes out different. That guy's a
little bit different. Now we'll gosee him in games and see if it
matches what I see on a practicefield in the game field with him.
When you watch a guy like that, it's the same thing as watching a
quarterback who can play off schedule andthrow from different arm angles. It's like,
okay, this guy regards to sitat shorts and a T shirt or

(42:00):
in full gear. This guy underthere's something about the pass rush game,
the skill set that he has.It's DNA. Grenard's got that, and
as he continues to paush it,he'll get nothing but better if he continues
to polish his craft. But also, with will Anderson's elevation and more guys,
it only says if you got morethan one guy up there, somebody
you ain't drawing, that you can'tdouble them all the time. And you're

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gonna see in the way Grenard rushesa pass, I'm not sure sure I
wouldn't be doubling him at times rightnow because you've got a great skill set
to get to the quarterback. Twentynine tackles this season for Jonathan Garnard,
eight sacks. Yep, it's prettygood. I mean he's having a good
year, especially alongside with Will Anderson. Like I said, Desmond King led
the way yesterday and it was reallyjust an overall great performance from the defense,

(42:45):
especially late because you thought you saidit earlier Sean like they started driving
towards the end of the game andwhen he got in the red zones at
all. No, don't don't letthis. We're not about to watch this
happen again. Are we Where they'regoing to lose a game late? Like,
no way. I think it's fivegames have been sided by less than
six points for the Texans this season. I thought yesterday I was like,
man, no way, We're aboutto watch Russell Wilson win this for the

(43:08):
Broncos. But you got to getused to the fact that now with the
Texans is this year, there's thedifference they think they're gonna win and it
shows instead of oh, here wego again, it's here we go again.
Good, we're in a position we'llget this stop this week. It
doesn't have to always be c J. Stroud and it wasn't yesterday. He
made some plays, but I wouldbet that you look at him, he'll

(43:30):
judge himself and say I got toplay better in certain situations. Although he
has got a phenomenal ability to justI mean, he just piles up yards
in big plays. He's so accuratedown the field. And if we're gonna
win games like that when your team'snot really playing their best. Defensively,
they were really good, but offensively, yeah, that's a good sign.

(43:51):
Head and the rest of December,because the schedule says you can win them
all. Now, can you Iget concerned about this game coming up?
I just do after a game youhad to gut out at home against a
good Broncos team the way they're playing, and now you've got to go on
the road these games, like Itold you about the Carolina game, but
they concerned me because can you handlesuccess? I say it all the time.

(44:13):
We'll go find out because if theylose to the Jets, then you
got to say to yourself, thisteam hasn't quite understood how to handle success.
And then go beat a bad team. I think they're gonna be ready
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Talk seven Ainey Shawn Salisbury, BrianLimamanuel Elmore Texans beating the Broncos college football
set with their playoffs Michigan versus Alabama, Texans Texas versus Washington. Willie Fritz
hired as the new head coach forthe University of Houston football program. In
the win yesterday, the Texans suffereda big loss one of their top wide

(46:53):
receivers, Tank Dell. He's goingto be out four the season with a
broken fibula. Big blow. Hewas a standout wide receiver as a rookie.
Him and c. J. Stroudare extremely close. They were close

(47:14):
going into the draft. They workedout together. You saw the production on
the field, and unfortunately football isa brutal game and he broke his fibula,
so they will be without him forthe rest of the season. And
don't dis count how huge that is. That rookie receiver opens up a lot

(47:35):
of stuff for Noel Brown, forthe tight end, for Nicocollins, Mechi
Woods. He opens up a lotof real estate because of his ability to
hit a home run every time hetouches the ball. You have to count
account for him inside those numbers andhash marks and outside the numbers. I
just thought it was a phenomenal,phenomenal start to a career for Tank Dell.

(47:59):
And he'll be but It is abig blow because he is a weapon
that you obviously stroud trusts, andit's a football team that quite frankly needs
him offensively. Who now the burdenfalls on the rest of the night.
You got to step up. Man. Imagine saying we have to step up
with our rookie out. Now,that's saying something. It's not saying.
I'm not saying rookie come in andstep in. We're saying who's going to

(48:22):
replace Who's going to give the sameenergy, production and game plan fear you're
putting into an offense. And yes, there had to be some fear with
him because he finished it. Hedoesn't just make the easy catch, you'll
go get the football. So thisis a This is a big blow in
my opinion. The question is howyou're going to handle it, because we
all of a sudden think, oh, rookie replaceable. You find me a

(48:43):
guy on this team who consistently,week in and week out has played better
football at the wide receiver position onthis team than him. Yeah, pretty
impressive, And it seems to mewatching him that the guy really wants his
craft to be polished. It reallydoes. This is a big loss,
man, It's a big loss.But this team's receiving core is a lot
deeper than I think people thought atthe beginning of the year. Yeah,

(49:05):
guys like John Metchi, Xavier Hutchinsonalso another rookie, they're gonna have to
step up. Can't just be allNico Collins and Noah Brown. So some
of these other guys are gonna getget accimated to this offense really quick.
But losing tankdlle sucks. That's adownfield threat, one of the best route
runners that the Texans have, probablyout of the rookie class, probably the
best route runner, maybe even arguablymaking himself known as one of the best

(49:31):
route runners in the NFL, butout of just sucks man. But that's
CJ. Strout talked about it afterthe game and he said, that's you
know, that's football. Unfortunately,at the end of the day, it's
football. It is. And guesswhat, Unfortunately you have to I mean
for that, you have to moveforward. You can't you worry about him,
and you wish he was out there, but you still got to prepare
and play. And of course that'sexactly what Tank Dell would expect you to

(49:54):
do. This is the the thebad, and dark side of football is
the guys get hurt and unfortunate.But part of that goes to a scouting
staff in a front office too.Are you getting the right people to come
in and play? And it looksto me like the depth of their receiving
corps will be okay in filling in. But I always love it when you

(50:14):
say, oh wow, you lostyour start. It's not gonna be that
big a deal. It is abig deal. Now. You can make
it a lesser deal if the quarterbackand the rest of this team elevate around
him. Sure, but it isa big deal because you've now diminished one
of your playmakers. You've diminished youroffense. One of your playmakers will be
watching. So it does hurt andit has an effect in going into it.

(50:36):
Bobby Slogan's got the challenge now ofdialing up. Now, the offense
isn't going to change, but therapper of who the person is out there
doing what Tank Dell does will.So let's what say you, Let's go
and see what they got. AndI think Tankdal's set a great foundation for
what we get to expect to seein the future. He'll recover one hundred
percent from that and be ready togo next year. Maybe he should go
hang out Aaron Rodgers. You knowhe'll be back before you know it.

(50:59):
Sure he will, because they playhard over there in New York, right
they do. Yeah, that's whatThat's what they tell me. That's what
play hard. That's what Robert Solizsays. Yeah, they play hard.
Yeah. Whenever you start the playhard card at this stage of the season,
you know what that means. We'renot any good. Hey, we
play hard, though, we playhard. Maybe, uh, maybe that

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Aaron Rodgers will make his debut nextweek, his debut or his return.
I should say. No, youwouldn't let him play either if you were
on that team, would you?Uh? No, I would not.
Okay, there's no shot because they'renot very good. That's exactly right.
I mean they're they're like you said, it doesn't matter who's playing quarterback.

(51:42):
Yeah, just who's our quarterback?Dak Press? Dak Prescott's quarterback? Yeah,
Coop Cooper Rush, he's the backupDak Prescott. I told you this
guy'd be an MVP guy. Whodid the who the Jets lose to this
past weekend? Let's see, comeon, Mad thirteen? Uh what Yeah,

(52:05):
there you go four twenty five hundredand forty eight yards and an interception.
All right, I guess it wasn'tuh, I mean, it's just
somebody else. I mean it's it'sI guess Zach Wilson's offense looks just like
Zach Wilson's playing when he's not playing. Desmond the difference Desmond Ridder for the
Atlanta Falcons twelve to twenty seven andtwenty one yards and a touchdown. Super
offensive performance on both teams yesterday tellsyou how bad the Jets are. Yeah,

(52:29):
hikes and not good. That's terrible. Bijon Robinson fifty three yards total
was it was some tough football.You think the forty nine ers sent a
message and game last night? Man, everybody want to know why they were
favored. Everybody want to know whyby green Bay was in that Well you
saw why green Bay Love was outof his mind. And Rock Party,

(52:49):
who's the leading candidate for MVP?Now it should be Brock Party, You
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Sports Talk seven Ainey Shawn Salisbury,Brian Lima, Manuel Elmore. Texans beating
the Broncos college football set with theirplayoffs Michigan versus Alabama, Texans Texas versus

(53:58):
Washington. Willie Fritz hired as thenew head coach for the University Houston football
program. In the win yesterday,the Texans suffered a big loss one of
their top wide receivers, Tank Dell. He's going to be out for the
season with a broken fibula. Bigblow. He was a standout wide receiver

(54:23):
as a rookie. Him and c. J. Stroud are extremely close.
They were close going into the draft, they worked out together. You saw
the production on the field, andunfortunately football is a brutal game and he
broke his fibula, so they willbe without him for the rest of the

(54:44):
season. And don't discount how hugethat is. That rookie receiver opens up
a lot of stuff for Noel Brown, for the tight end, for Nicocollins,
Mechi Woods. He opens up alot of real estate because of hisiity
to hit a home run every timehe touches the ball. You have to
count account for him inside those numbersand hash marks and outside the numbers.

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I just thought it was a phenomenal, phenomenal start to a career for Tank
Dell and he'll be fine, butit is a big blow because he is
a weapon that you obviously Stroud trusts, and it's a football team that quite
frankly needs him offensively. Who nowthe burden falls on the rest of him.

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Now you got to step up.Man. Imagine saying we have to
step up with our rookie out.Now that's saying something. It's not saying.
I'm not saying rookie come in andstep in. We're saying who's going
to replace, Who's going to givethe same energy, production and game plan
fear you're putting into an offense.And yes, there had to be some
fear with him because he finished it. He doesn't just make the easy catch,
you'll go get the football. Sothis is a big blow in my

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opinion. The question is how you'regoing to handle it, because we all
of a sudden think, oh,rookie replaceable. You find me a guy
on this team who consistently in andweek out has played better football at the
wide receiver position on this team thanhim. Yeah, pretty impressive, and
it seems to me watching him thatthe guy really wants his craft to be
polished. It really does. Thisis a big loss, man, it's

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a big loss. But this team'sreceiving core is a lot deeper than I
think people thought at the beginning ofthe year. Yeah, guys like John
Metchi, Xavier Hutchinson also another rookie, they're gonna have to step up.
Can't just be all Nico Collins andNoah Brown. So some of these other
guys are going to get act,get acclimated to this offense really quick.
But losing TANKDLLE sucks. That's adownfield threat. One of the best route

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runners that the Texans have, probablyout of the rookie class, probably the
best route runner, maybe even arguablymaking himself known as one of the best
route runners in the NFL, butout of just sucks man. But that's
c J. Strout talked about afterthe game and he said, that's you
know, that's football. Unfortunately,at the end of the day, it's
football. It is. And guesswhat, Unfortunately, you have to I

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mean for that, you have tomove forward. You can't. You worry
about him, and you wish hewas out there, but you still got
to prepare and play, and ofcourse that's exactly what Tank Dell would expect
you to do. This is thebad and dark side of football, is
that the guys get hurt and unfortunate. But part of that goes to a

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scouting staff in the front office too. Are you getting the right people to
come in and play? And itlooks to me like the depth of their
receiving corps will be okay and fillingin. But I always love it when
you say, oh wow, youlost your start, it's not gonna be
that big a deal. It isa big deal. Now you can make
it a lesser deal if the quarterbackand the rest of this team elevate around
him. Sure, but it isa big deal because you've now diminished one

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of your playmakers. You've diminished youroffense. One of your playmakers going to
be watching. So it does hurtand it has an effect in going into
it. Bobby Sloan's got the challengenow of dialing it up. Now.
The offense isn't going to change,but the rapper of who the person is
out there doing what Tank Dell doeswill. So let's what say you,
Let's go and see what they got, and I think Tankdale's set a great

(58:05):
foundation for what we get to expectto see in the future. He'll recover
one hundred percent from that and beready to go next year. Maybe he
should go hang out Aaron Rodgers.You know he'll be back before you know
it. Sure he will. Becausethey play hard over there in New York,
right they do. Yeah, that'swhat that's what they tell me.
Let's play hard, That's what RobertSoliz says. Yeah, they play hard.
Yeah, whenever you start the playhard card at this stage of the
season, you know what that means. We're not any good. Hey,

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we play hard though we play hard, right? Maybe? Uh, maybe
that Aaron Rodgers will make his debutnext week, his debut or his return.
I should say no, you wouldn'tlet him play either if you were
on that team, would you?Uh? No, I would not.
Okay, there's no shot because they'renot very good. That's exactly right.

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I mean they're they're like you said, it doesn't matter who's playing quarterback?
Yeah, just who's our quarterback?Dak presk Dak Prescott's a quarterback? Yeah,
Coop Cooper Rush, he's the backupDak Prescott. I told you this
guy'd be an MVP. Guy.Who did the who the Jets lose to
this past weekend? Let's see?Come on, mad, did you Falcons?

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What a game? Dude? Thirteento eight? Uh? What?
Yeah? There you go to fourteento twenty five hundred and forty eight yards
and an interception? All right,I guess it wasn't. Uh, I
mean it's just somebody else. Imean it's it's I guess Zak Wilson's offense
looks just like Zack Wilson's playing whenhe's not playing. Desmond the Difference Desmond

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Ridder for the Atlanta Falcons twelve totwenty seven and twenty one yards and a
touchdown. Super offensive performance on bothteams yesterday tells you how bad the Jets
are. Yeah, hikes and notgood. That's terrible. Bijon Robinson fifty
three yards total? Was that wassome tough football? You think the forty
nine ers sent a message and gamelast night? Man, everybody want to

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know why they were favored. Everybodywant to know why by green was in
that Well you saw why green BayLove was out of his mind. And
brock Party, who's the leading candidatefor MVP? Now it should be Brock
Party, You damn right, itshould with Dak Prescott and Tyreek Hill's got
to be in that mix too.If Tyreek Hill's not the and I understand,
and so is McCaffrey. But ifTyreek Hill's not going to win your

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MVP, I don't know how there'sa more I don't know how there's a
guy on the field who creates moreproblems for teams right now, that's not
a quarterback than that cat five reception, one hundred and fifty seven yards and
two touchdowns for it, yea,it is. It's an impressive watch man,
And you know what Tua has gotsome numbers. Let's not forget him.
The problem forty nine ers, yougot two guys on there with Ian

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McCaffrey and the Dolphins. You've gota couple of guys with two in Hill.
I don't think that right now.I don't think that mahomes Lamar Jackson
that group of players, I don'tthink that. Obviously the Burrows out of
it, he's been out of thatmix for a month now. I don't
think that there. It can change. I don't think you'd put them in
the conversation right now. To me, it's now gone to a two quarterback

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and every week it changes. That'sthe way it does. But the two,
because right now, you Jalen Hurtsis not the MVP of this league.
Turn it over like he's a greatplayer. You know how I feel
about him. Rock Purty four touchdownson a road, taking care of his
business in a hostile environment. Heright now has catapulted now to the one
hole. Look at his numbers andhis team's winning. So you got to

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say he's the guy right now andit may change next week, but man,
what a signature win for them togo on the road and not just
beat Philadelphia, but drubbing, drubbingon him. Another guy that causes problems
for defense, like you said aboutTyreek Hills, Deebo Samuel. He had
two receiving touchdowns and a rushing touchdownyesterday. If you watch the forty nine
ers when he's not there, Whenhe is not there is their offensive approach

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changes immensely in the way people defendthem. He is so valuable on,
so valuable on his ability to disruptyour game. You're what you're putting in
as a defensive coordinator for you tobe using up a lot of practice time
saying how are we going to defendthis guy? And then in the process

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everything else goes crazy. I'm sittinghere watching I'm going to tell you now
it said that rock Perty had likeone hundred and eight completions for one hundred
and fifty six yards and one hundredand twenty seven were run after the catch.
I don't want to hear one singleperson tell me. Then you're telling
me Drew Brees wasn't any good.I'm not comparing to the Brees, but
similar way they play accurate, don'tmiss easy played, do not come on

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here? Tell me, yeah,well he made a post throw and then
then the receiver took it is sixtyyards. Okay, so we've seen Tank
Dell do it. We've seen otherplayers do it here, we've seen when
Manning played with Reggie Went the greatquarterbacks, throw accurate, give your guy
a chance to run. I don'twant to hear from anybody that well he
makes the Yeah, he throws atwelve yard curl route and the guy runs

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after the and I the excuse isthere the people will make not to give
a guy award because of the stigmaof being the last guy drafted is absurd.
The MVP in the league right now, and if he ain't first,
he ain't thirds Brock party now.That will change next week or could change.
But so let's start putting respect onpeople who know how to win and
make plays. And he just doesboth, just like we got here,

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and you may not. You may. I don't care where the ball travels.
I just care that it travels accuratelyand to the right guy. Forty
nine ers proved that they got thatguy. Yeah, and they kicked the
Eagles ass. Let's get to thesteak out next. Right here on the
Shawan Salisbury Show, the Sewn SalisburyShow continues to continue. All right,

(01:03:44):
Sean, what are you hearing outthere now? The Salsbury's takeout? Salsbury
takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.It's time for the steak out. You're
on the Sean Salisbury Show. SeanBryn and Tripoli. Texans beating the Broncos
tank dell out for the season witha broken ankle. College football set with

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their playoffs Michigan, Alabama, Texasversus Washington. My stakeout question is in
regard to the Houston Astro Sean somestuff released over the weekend that the Astros

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have no interest in trading Alex Bregman, but they are going to prioritize money
that could be used to re signAlex Bregman, but instead to make Jose
Altuve an Astro for life. That'sall coming from Bob Nightingale. It'll probably
cost three hundred million dollars to keepAlex Bregman. Would you pay three hundred

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million dollars for Alex Bregman? Noton, not now, not ever.
People will think that that's just respectfulthat I don't think Bregman's will. I
think Bregman's a hell of a player. I think you need him on your
roster, and I think he's great. There's no way I'm paying him three
hundred million now, that would requirethree ten years or unless you plan on

(01:05:13):
paying him thirty five million a year. He's that guy? Is he that
guy? No? If you toldme I had to pay him thirty five
million dollars a year to keep himfor eight nine years, no, I'm
letting him go just as quickly asI let Correa and George Springer go.
There will be no negotiation. Now. If you're saying and I can't remember

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who it was on Twitter that saidit, well, you know Scott Boris
is his agent, and this isa couple may have been three weeks or
a month ago, Scott Boris's agent. Don't don't put it past Bors to
go get him. And you knowwhat, maybe Scott Bors will go get
it somewhere else. I wouldn't payit, but he is a hell of
a player. I'm not getting inhis wallet. If he can go get

(01:05:56):
it, go get it. Andif you can get it here, get
it. You're just simply asking me, as a GM, if somebody came
to me, would you pay itjust as quickly as some people have said
I'm not interested in No, Tawny, we can't afford him too much.
I can tell you just as quickly. I'm not paying Alex Bregman thirty five
or thirty million a year for tenyears, and that's what that's take.
If not, you're telling me you'regonna pay him forty million a year for

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what seven or whatever. That fortyto forty is eighty eighty and eighty is
a bus sixty, so that's fouryears. So you're telling me you're gonna
pay him five years at three hundredmillion. Cool? No, isn't that
forty million a year forty to fortyor no, that's not even for No,
I'm way off. That only beatfifty million a year for five years.
Two hundred and fifty million. Yeah, I was a I was two
years shy. That's exactly right.So forty million so eighty and eighties one

(01:06:40):
hundred sixty that's two years. Yep, two more years would be too forty.
Hell, you'd have to go likeseven years for forty million a year.
Are you willing to do that?No? I'm not, but you
might. I just and I listen, whoever gets the guy, if he
ever does leave free agency's getting hellof a player if you can get him

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cheaper for less years and cheaper,Hell yeah, I want him. But
if you're asking me, is hea three hundred million dollar player? So
let's just say it's a minimum tothirty million a year. That's ten years,
dude, Yeah, you're gonna haveto go ten years, and we
know how we feel. Are youdoing it? No? No, no,

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no, I know the disruption.No no, I've been fine.
I don't want to lose him.I love him, and I hope he
gets that kind of money. I'dbe great. If he doesn't they pay
it here or anywhere else. Great, But if i'm a GM, no
I'm not. I'll pass on onon three hundred million for whatever it takes.
No, I'm not doing it.So he's about to be thirty,

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so that would mean he plays hislast year as the astros of the thirty
year old goes into free agency,has a thirty one year or yeah,
into twenty twenty five? Is thirtyone year old? What you're gonna lock
him up from thirty one to fortyone? What's thirty times six? Say
that again? Is that one hundredand fifty million, which one thirty times
six thirty times. That's one hundredand eighty thirty six times a buck eighty

(01:08:06):
correct thirty sixty ninety Yeah, onehundred and eighty million. Okay, you
good there, You're good at thirtymillion, six years. I think I'll
be okay with that. Me too, I think I'll be okay with it.
Yeah. Yeah, So you keepthirty years. Thirty million at seven
years is two hundred ten ten tome. You're stretching me. Now,

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that's a little too much for meright right around that range. Now,
I can't go any more than that. This past season he made twenty eight
point five. In this season,he's making twenty eight point five. So
go up a couple million bucks.You're already paying it. You keep one
of your cornerstone pieces. Maybe ifyou go to thirty let's say you go
to thirty three million yere Yeah,for six years, that's one hundred and
eighty six hundred ninety some million dollars. Don't just think At some point Jim

(01:08:51):
Crane is gonna have to pass theluxury tax threshold probably if he wants to,
just try as far as he canto not and he's he's survived so
far. Yes, I agree,six years, two hundred million. You're
good there, right, Yeah,I'd be okay with that. That's thirty
three plus a year. Correct.I don't know how I can creep much

(01:09:12):
higher than that, buddy. Imean I would be okay with that because
you look at I can pull upyou know some of the top you know,
salaries for infielders and things like that. Let's look at I mean,
are you willing to go three hundredmillion for him? I know you aren't,

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but I man, that's because ifyou do it on last years,
okay, forty million a year,Mookie Bets is making his AAV is thirty
point four. You mean to tellme that you're going to pay Ats Bregman
more aav than Mookie Betts? Absolutelynot. Mayna Matchado thirty one point eight.

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Francisco Lindor thirty four point one,Corey C You're thirty two point five.
We know how massive that contract was. Rafield Defor's thirty three and he's
gotten paid and he's earned it,and then you start getting down Nolan Aeronado
thirty two point five. Yeah,no, I can't see him making more
than that. You're gonna pay himmore than cars Karrea Krskorea is making thirty

(01:10:17):
point thirty three point three. Well, I wouldn't pay I could tell you
this. I think he says everybit as good a players Korea. He'll
get the thirty three million dollars somewhereelse. I just can't pay him three
hundred million, Yeah, because that'sat that rate. You're telling eight to
ten years at thirty plus million ayear. No for me, I'm out,
but I hope he gets it.I listen, if they pay him,

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I'm not gonna argue it didn't mymoney go for it. But you're
asking me, if I'm the GM, would I pay it. My answer
to you is no, not thatmuch. Because you pay thirty million,
it's ten years. If you payforty million, that's a lot of money
for six or seven years, whateverthat is. Francisco lindor Is signed a
ten year contract or three hundred andforty one million dollars. Yeah. How
old was he when he signed it? Let's see, so he's twenty seven

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right now. Yeah, but he'salready younger than there three or four years.
Yeah, and he's already younger thanBregman right by three years he signed
I'm sorry, Francisco Lindor signed itwhen he was twenty seven. Oh okay,
so I was gonna say, becausehe's been there, they're around the
same age, right, he'd beenin New York for four years now,
thirty four years. Yeah, SoI just I don't know, three hundred

(01:11:25):
million dollars just doesn't seem like thisis they're willing to pay it here.
I mean, so I'm just lookingat at players that are thirty years old
or older signing their contract outside ofMany Machado, Many Machado at the age
of thirty. Obviously they came backand gave an eleven year deal three hundred
and fifty million. And wasn't hethe National League? Was he the MVP

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last year or close top two?Yeah? Not this twenty twenty three,
but twenty twenty two. I mean, I'm not saying that Bregman's not better
at Machado. In some ways,some think you. I mean, I
think Machado's probably got a better bat, doesn't have a better eye, obviously
a better power, that right,But I mean, I can understand why
you'd want Bregman over Machado. ButI just that that's a lot of money

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to go. So to answer yourquestion on the stakeout, yeah, I
can't see myself paying three hundred milliondollars at this stage of the career.
Yeah, Xander Bogart's thirty was thirtyyears old signing eleven million dollars or excuse
me, eleven year deal. We'retwo hundred and eighty million. Just because
they signed it doesn't make it right, right, thirty one years old for

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Marcus Simei when he signed his sevenyear deal worth one hundred and seventy five
Now, okay there, don't youI am? Yeah, so yeah,
I can live with that here,thirty plus million at six or seven years
for Bregman. I'm in Paul Goldschmidt, Freddy Freeman, we're both thirty one
and thirty two when they signed theirbig deals. Over one hundred and ten
one hundred and twenty hundred and thirtymillion for both of those guys. So

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I'm just looking at the age.The age has got to come into a
fact coming to play for Bregman whenhe wants to go get his next contract,
and again you can go get twohundred and fifty plus million dollars and
go, yeah, we'll get yourbad I'm not giving like a thirty million
hometown discount. If I can getthirty million extra, I'm leaving too.
The Astros are not right, andhe's not taking a hometown discount, so
he deserves to get He's a hellof a player. I understand why he'd

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want to go get paid. ButI can also tell you that I think
that's far fetched to think of himas a forty million dollar guy right now.
But his agent, Scott Bors,and he's a hell of a player,
But I don't have him as atop five player in baseball to you.
No, No, it's the hardfacts of it. Yeah, So
we'll have to wait and see whattranspires with that. And again, it's

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to help make Jose Al two vanAshra for life. I think we both
agreed that that's a big priority.Yeah, big priority for the Astros.
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Shawn Salisbury Show continues, Hiles know, well, it is that draft.
It is that draft. It iscomforts. Okay, Lamber, King of

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Mercy, your chicksie so Thirsty,I'm in that to see lambo with.
Welcome back to the Shawn Salisbury Showhere on Sports Talk seven ninety Thirsty,
Seawn, Brian and Tripley Texans beatthe Bronco Tank dell out for the season
with a broken ankle. Michigan,Alabama, Texas Washington. Those are the

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matchups for the college football playoffs.Willie Fritz hired as the new head coach
for the University of Houston. Aswe look back to the weekend that it
was in the NFL, what stoodout to you the most, Sean was
the domination of the forty nine ersTexans finding a way to win. What
do you think? I think thetwo things. It's the way that the

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Green Bay Packers manhandled took care oftheir business at home. But the number
one is no doubt. They didn'tjust go on the road and win.
They went on the road and beatPhiladelphia down. You hang forty plus points
on the Super Bowl representative in theNFC, who's one loss in the number
one team in football, and poundedthem into submission. There was a once

(01:16:54):
again don't bet against Vegas. Theythey were favored to go on the right
and beat him, and they did, and they beat him handily. That
was the most impressive I know.Here we got to say it was the
most It wasn't the most impressive becauseDenver's been well, they've won five and
zero. Was very impressive. Theway the defense stood up and made their
play very impressive. The win ofthe weekend probably Alabama and College football and

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the forty nine ers both teams havingto go and beat the big dog,
and they both did and sent loudmessage. The forty nine Ers victory yesterday
was most impressive NFL win, nodoubt, because it was with that.
It was with with authority, Yeah, with authorities right. They won forty
two to nineteen. Christ McCaffrey seventeencarries ninety three yards and a touchdown.

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Brock Perty three hundred and fourteen yards, throwing four touchdowns, Deebo Samuel four
receptions one hundred and sixteen yards,two touchdowns, and he also had a
rushing touchdown. And then in thatPackers and Chiefs win, excuse me,
Chiefs game, the Packers won.Jordan Love threw three touchdowns two hundred and
sixty seven yards. He was twentyfive to thirty six, no interception.
He was sacked twice Patrick Mahomes,and he outplayed Mahomes big time yesterday,

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twenty one to thirty three, twohundred and ten yards, passing one touchdown
one interception. He was also sackedthree times. Travis Kelce four receptions eighty
one yards, but was held outof the end zone. Man Jordan Love
looked really good last night, prettyimpressive, he wrote from that was when
you decided to move on from AaronRodgers. That's the guy you thought you

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were going to get, and attimes he's shown that. But that is
a that is a huge When youcan do that, there'll be a feeling
of Okay, got a game ball. I know from Lafleur yesterday played his
ass off and it was really itwas really impressive to watch. If that's
the if that's the get over thehump moment for we all have one where

(01:18:48):
like okay, it shifts into okay, I can do this like this every
week. I think that's the reasonwhy you also saw that Green Bay felt
it was time to move on,that it was getting stale for them with
Aaron Rodgers, and at some pointyou had to find out what kind of
player Jordan Love was. Last nighthe looked like a player, I can
tell you that, and at timesthis year he's looked like a real player.
What's going on with the Chiefs.I don't think their offense is is

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explosive or hard to defend this year? I don't. I think their defense
is good. I think their offensehas the ability to explode for forty because
the quarterback's good and Andy Reid's agreat play caller. I don't think their
weapons are as good. I justdon't Pachecko runs hard. Kelsey's a weapon,
but you can see he's not dominatinggames. He this year is not
the best tied end in football.And when Peter well, it's all about

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Taylor shifts. I don't know ifthis is coincidental or what have you,
but I can just tell you he'snot dominating games on a regular basis the
way that we have seen in thepast. For whatever reason, at some
point in time, you think,damn, the guy can't catch every ball
that's thrown his way. I justdon't think there's ex on the outside perimeter.
I don't think they're as scary.I don't feel like they're as comfortable.

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I don't feel as confident that they'regoing to make every single play all
the time. This is here.Listen, look at the run there.
This is an Astros run. It'sa similar run. Although they've won what
two Super Bowls in the last fouryears or whatever, but they keep going
to AFC Championship games. They're goingto be in it in the end.
There's no doubt. And they've gotthat ability. I told you at the
beginning of the year, I didn'tfeel like they were repeating this year.

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First of all, it's hard enoughto do. I just don't think offensively
now they could go on a fiveweek run where it's like they're scoring five
hundred yards a game and scoring thirtyfive games. They're capable. To me,
I think that there's I think offensively, there's a handful of teams that
are more Miami. I can gothrough teams right now, forty nine ers.

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I like Phillies offense overall, butnot the quarterback throwing it, but
the overall offense. I don't thinkthe Kansas City Chiefs offense is oh my
gosh, you know it's there.But I don't think you go in thinking
if they play average, they're betterthan most offenses. No, they played
average offense yesterday and guess what yousaw the difference. I just don't And

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the numbers may say they've still putup the same numbers. The eye test
for me, I don't think they'rethe best offense in football. Forget the
statistics. I'm talking about. Theresean lineup the offenses you would go in
order in a big game. Yeah, the quarterback makes me want to stay
with them. There's a bunch ofoffenses that I take over them. I
don't think they're I don't think theiroffenses is devastatingly Oh my gosh, how

(01:21:24):
are we going to stop them thisyear? I think people are proven that
they can put some defense up againstthem. Is that a personnel thing?
Is it? Is it play callingor is it just kind of where the
league is adapting to what they dopersonnel effects play calling? I assure you
with that, ye personnel afflet faxplay calling, and when you take away
or stop the number one guy,they've always been able to get four or

(01:21:45):
five other guys involved, and Ithink at times they still can, There's
no doubt. But it just ifyou're Andy Re at some point in time
too, you say, okay,how many times are we going to play
off the ball? Let Kelsey getfree run and go set up and run
his option route off a linebacker ora say and beat them. People start
to adjust, and then you hadthe ability to adjust, and then they
make an adjustment. They've always beenable to make a counter adjustment that beats

(01:22:09):
you, and they still may beable to do that. I just don't
think the optics look the same Idon't think there is. I don't go
into every week saying, oh,you're playing Kansas City's offense, They're going
to score forty on you no matterwhat you do. I think good defenses
that are pressing the quarterback are goingto give them some trouble. I don't
think they're gonna I don't have them. There's offenses that I would be a

(01:22:30):
little more fearful of. It's ifthe quarterback wasn't a part of it right
now. But he is, andwe know that that's big in Philly,
it's big wherever you go. Quarterbackgot to have that guy. We see
what it's like here. When thequarterback's out there, it's different, and
Mahomes always makes it different. Idon't think their personnel offensively is as good
as it's been in the past,and I think it shows showing Yeah.

(01:22:50):
I mean I felt that way atto me in this season, and I'm
not backing off that Mahomes always givesyou a chance. I think they're personnel.
I can name five teams in theleague that I think offensive person no
wise or better. It just doesn'tseem it doesn't seem smooth, like the
offense seems very uh not shoppy,but yeah, there you go. It's
not. Uh. Some some drivesthey look good. Others it's like they

(01:23:14):
look they look discombobulated at times.Every time we've seen him in a pass.
For the most part, when theyget the ball, you think something
good. There's no rhythm, andthere's and it just feels it feels like
it's more they they're laboring more offensivelythan they have in the players. So
I don't I don't think they're now. Listen, Baltimore's had their ups and
every team has it, and theycould surely be playing in the super Bowl

(01:23:36):
with Mahomes in the Super Bowl theball in his hand, look out.
I think that. I think teamslike Jacksonville and teams I think there's a
handful of teams at offense is asgood as the Chiefs. Mahomes is the
great equalizer or the one who jumpsyou over everything. But the gap has

(01:23:57):
closed between other offenses in Kansas City'sand inside cases, there's other offenses in
my mind that are better. Yeah, I think the Lions have a better
offense than in the NFC. Thepersonnel wise, I can go Dolphins.
Personnel in the AFC is better.I'm not so sure. The Buffalo Bill's
personnel everywhere isn't as good. TheCowboys got great personnel, the forty nine

(01:24:17):
Ers personnel, Eagles personnel, Detroit'sgot phenomenal personnel offensively, Yeah, the
Chiefs are no longer the it's theChiefs and everybody else personnel that they've worked
their way back to the pack nowcapable of going out killing you. Yes,
yeah, I just think it's alittle more. There's a lot more
labor to it. I don't thinkthey're the best offense in football right now,

(01:24:38):
although they can be. In they'redangerous, Yeah, they are dangerous.
All right. Let's look at theAFC South. The Jags play tonight.
How's that playoff picture shaping up?Do the Texans have a chance?
That's next Sportsluck seven ninety more,Sean Salisbury, get in, strap in
and ride in. Look at thebig catch and play, catch and play.

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I won't go feeling like I wason the mountain. I won't one
feeling like I need a honey gold. Look at them, blig, look
at the big look at I gotsome breaking news out of college football.
Obviously we're gonna talk about college footballplayoffs. Next segment to start the eight
o'clock hour. But uh, youknow we Sean, we were talking about

(01:25:43):
the transfer portal, the nil collectivesand things like that a lot last week
with all these quarterbacks entering the transferportal. Well, the starter for Ohio
State, Kyle McCord, the quarterback, has put his name into the trans
for a portal. Obviously, todayopens up the transfer portal officially being December

(01:26:06):
fourth, with the regular season completed, now you've got the bowl season in
college football playoffs ahead, the transferportal is wide open. In another big
name, Tom Acord, entered hisname into the transfer portal. Sean,
what the hell, what are wedoing? What are we doing in college
football right now? In college athletics. This dude was the starter all season

(01:26:27):
long for Ohio State. They wereone win away from playing in the College
Football player excuse me, in theBig Ten Championship. They were probably going
to go on to beat Iowa aswell, just like Michigan did. And
yet he's transferring. Where's where areyou going? Well, he can go
a lot of places. He's afive star quarterback that started for Ohio State
and had them a game away fromplaying in the Final four I don't understand

(01:26:51):
this. I don't understand if RyanDay walked in there and said you were
the starter, But Devin Brown's nowgoing to be the starter of one of
our twenty twenty four or future guywho's going to be the starter. The
quarterback room's always loaded at Ohio State. But that's my point that I made
last week. This is why thisis not good for college football. You
are the starting quarterback at one ofthe six best teams, seven best teams

(01:27:15):
every year in the country. Everyyear you win eleven and one. You
threw twenty plus touchdowns. Now Iknow I can tell you already that there's
fans in Columbus that are trying torun him out of town after getting beat
by Michigan. I haven't played againstus UCLA and Notre Dame and getting beat
and then winning some I understand thatfeeling of doesn't matter how you play,

(01:27:36):
and then you lose that game,you can forget. People want the next
guy, right, That's just theway it works. That's something he's just
gonna have to deal with. Butwhat's happened since the Michigan game? As
the starter? You're the guy,you won the job, You've been the
guy all year long for the mostpart, and it's your team. Did
Ryan Day go in and say dueorderd Ryan Day? Is Ryan Day leaving?

(01:27:59):
I don't think so. Why jealieveOhio State? One? Two?
Is you're eleven and one You're thestarting quarterback for one of the biggest power
schools in the country. What isit? Did somebody come and offer you
more money? Is that it?Did somebody offer you more money after the
Michigan game? Did you already knowbefore the Michigan game that no matter what
happens, I'm leaving anyway? Hadto How how are you the guy going

(01:28:23):
into a chance to possibly win anational championship and win the Big Ten championship
and go play for a national titleand he made the decision overnight. Did
somebody walk into him and say,dude, you're not starting the jobs opened
for competition. Did somebody jump intohim and start and Tampa start recruiting him.
Walies at Ohio State say, dude, leave there, notre Dames looking
for a new quarterback? Come playhere? Or is LSU with Jayden Daniels

(01:28:44):
gone looking for a new quarterback?Did SC call him up and say we
do know Caleb's leaving, so youcome to school here or where is that?
Where we're at, either starting quarterbackon one of the best it's not
even top seven. Every year they'rea top five team and you're the guy,
And why else would you leave otherthan these three reasons? If somebody's
health a family, I get thatyou want to be closer to home,

(01:29:06):
but normally wherever his home is orwherever he wants to play. One is
coach leaves or you or you've beenbenched and you can't handle the coach correct.
Two you got beat out. Orthree you're hurt and somebody beats you
out and you're you're healthy now andyou lost your job, so you're gonna
go play somewhere's or you're long andyou're your fifth year senior and you've graduated.

(01:29:28):
And then the last one is somebodypaying you more money. It's it's
got to be the bottom. It'sgot to be the last. So so
I don't know. Did Brian Daysay, listen to competition's open, we
got beat we gotta we gotta findmore playmakers. I don't know the reason.
This is not what college football isthat out to. I don't know
anybody back a decade ago, theywould have said, you're the starting quarterback
of Notre Dame. What are youdoing? I'm staying and we were eleven

(01:29:50):
and one. Oh, I'm staying. I got unfinished business to take care
of. I'm gonna go compete.Even if they say we're gonna leave it
open to spring. You're with theeleven and one quarterback. Shouldn't you be
caught in NFO? You're not gettingbeat out if you play normal football.
You took a team to eleven andone and you're transferred. See that's and
I don't want to hear any wellto see it's the kid he should be

(01:30:12):
This is not good for football.And it's not just about that kid,
because I'll tell you this. IfI'm if I'm out there and eleven and
one quarterback leaves it an eleven inone team, what is it telling you?
It's either about the money or he'sgot he's afraid to get beat out.
What is the reason? Now?Maybe we don't know, Maybe we're
missing something and he's homesick. Idon't know, but I can tell you

(01:30:33):
this. This is all we're atthe time when the starting quarterbacks Drew Pine
was the starter at Arizona State leftNotre Dame as the starter gets hurt at
Arizona State, and guess what he'stransferring? Oh yeah, so the last
week he's he's leaving Arizona State.Dj uy ungle La lay leaving Oregon State

(01:30:54):
after leaving Clemson. Take a play. I get certain situations. It's your
first year starting on an eleven toone team, You're so close to being
in the national title hunt. Whyyeah, And they're about to play in
the Cotton Bowl against Missouri. Well, guess who's not starting in the Cotton
Bowl. It's not gonna be Cord. It's just it's it's baffling to me.

(01:31:15):
It's I don't make his decisions.But we are at a time now
when in starting quarterbacks on a nationaltitle type team are leaving starting quarterbacks on
eleven to one team. And itain't like you're a fifth year guy that
you're going to go You want anotheryear year of eligibility. I don't understand
it, but I guess I don'thave to. It's not for me.
How I got to recruit an elevenand one quarterback to stay on campus?

(01:31:38):
Is that what it's come to?Now? Yeah? You guess what you
should be paying these coaches ten milliona year. Then if I got to
recruit you to get you there,recruit to keep you, offer you more
name, image and likeness, money, guarantee you the starting job, and
then come back because you don't wantto compete in the spring. Who does
that? It's rampant now, andI don't get it. You talk about
the tampering stuff, the legalized tamperingguarantee you. Somebody came to him prior

(01:32:01):
to the season being done with andoffering him money, and I guarantee you
the second he said he's going tothe transfer portal. Fifteen others did too.
Right, he's a five star formerfive star quarterback who led a team
to eleven and one in the BigTen. That's a big issue. That
is a huge issue. Is thisleague league lies tampering? It's this is
not It's not good. No,it's not good for the kid. It's
not good for football, because I'dbe a little reluctant. Why are you
leaving eleven one starting because oh,you're getting paid a million more? All

(01:32:25):
right, Maybe he doesn't feel likehe's an NFL guy, or he does,
or he can't stand Ryandy or RyanDy dressed him down after. I
don't know, but I could tellyou this. It's a weird look and
it's got to be bothersome to somecollege football people and the Ohio State faithful,
although reading some of them are gladhe's leaving. And that's an eleven
and one quarterback basically number seventeen inthe country. Yeah, I don't get

(01:32:45):
it. Number what seventeen? Oh, I think number seventeen of that number
far drop? Yeah, the numberseventeen, right, it does sound like
seventeen. Yeah, yeah, whichis It's just it's it's weird to me,
and I don't think it's good forfootball. I just don't. It's
not good. It's a bad lookall the way around. Let's continue to
talk college football. Did the committeeget it right for the college football playoffs?
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Texans being the Broncos Tank dell outfor the season with a broken ankle.
College football playoffs That's what we're goingto discuss this hour. Willie Fritz
hired as the new head coach forthe University Houston football program. Let's look
at the college football playoffs. Numberone Michigan taking on number four Alabama in
the Rose Bowl on January first,Washington and the University of Texas playing in

(01:35:41):
the All State Sugar Bowl. Obviouslythe Rose Bowl out in Pasadena, California.
Sugar Bowl can be played in NewOrleans at the Caesars Superdome. Shawn,
did the committee get it right?Georgia Florida State left out? Well,
well, they got it right,but they didn't get it right.
I guess it depends on which criteriayou're talking about. I think for this

(01:36:06):
year in twenty twenty three, theway it was set up and the way
it turned out, this is theonly way they could do it in my
opinion. If you're telling me,well, okay, you tell me right
now, I'm on the committee.Go ahead, And and I'm asking you,
so you're asking me what's the crag? You and I are on the
committee. I look, I say, what's our criteria? What is yours?

(01:36:30):
I mean, I'm asking you.You're as part of a thirt team
member, what's your number one thing? Well, you got to win?
Okay, on the field I'm talkingabout is this last week? And when
you're making a decision, Yeah,what is your number one? When you're
sending the four to the playoffs?What sits at the top of your list?
Who who's the bet? Who's thebest four? Say Louder, who
are the best four teams out ofthese eight? Then they didn't get it
right, and then they didn't getit right. If you're talking about who's

(01:36:55):
the best four under these circumstances,about conference championships and all the other crimes,
are they got it right? Yeah? Because in truth, if you're
asking me, Sean, your life'son the line, your your money is
on the line, your mortgage isonline. You said, of the top
eight teams, you got to putit all on one team to win it
all the top eight, you knowwho I'm betting on Georgia without question,

(01:37:20):
without quoting, and Michigan probably second, and now Michigan's number one team in
the country, and Michigan quite franklyoffense passing, offense, while they're good,
has been a little bit suspect recentlyas far as their domination. But
I would still I'm talking about lightyour mortgage is on the line, I'm

(01:37:40):
still taking Georgia over Michigan. AndI would take Alabama over a lot of
those teams too. I think Alabama'splaying fantastic football right and Milro's legs are
friggin stupid. That dude's a freakshow with his in physical get to hims
one thing, try to bring hisass downs another and he can outrun you.
I mean and passing. While attimes it was inconsistently, this time

(01:38:00):
he still hit the right throws whennecessary. He's a dangerous friggin football player.
Man. But Georgia, I wouldpick him over everybody. So if
you're going by the criteria, yousay I want the four best, the
four best are not playing. WouldI tell you about the last look you
give? The last look Georgia gotwas a loss for a team that's won

(01:38:21):
twenty almost thirty straight, two timenational champion. Are they one of the
four best teams in America? Sean, they're playing on a neutral site,
Texas or Georgia. Who you're picking? I'm taking Georgia, Georgia, Oregon,
Washington, Ohio State, they playAlabama Again, it's hard to beat
a team to I would take Georgia. I just would. And Kirby say,

(01:38:41):
if you're talking about the four belt, you can't convince me that george
is not one of the four bestteams. So under your criteria, you're
just taking the four best. Wemissed it there. But under the circumstances
of now you go down when wewant conference champions, well, we want
undefeated conference champions. Now Florida Statewill tell you they didn't get it right,
and they do have a legitimate noquestions asked. Every year you say

(01:39:01):
post your best, go win andif you win and you're the conference champion
and an undefeated conference champion without yourtwo starting quarterback for two games, should
go a long way. They deserveit. But who you It's like an
All star when you pick an allstar guys. Yea, although this is
more important than an All star gameand a team effort. I'd lie in
the team from the team scenario,you tell me who you taking out of

(01:39:24):
the four who are there to putit? Remove Georgia from it. We've
already know why they're not in.Are is Georgia one of the four best
teams in the country right now?Would you put your mortgage on them against
all the other seven? Absolutely ifyou had to? So did they get
it right with the four best?No? Well, if you'd put your
money on it, is Georgia oneof the four best team? Yes,
yeah, of course, so no, I don't think they did. That's

(01:39:45):
exactly that part. They didn't.But with all the other criteria that comes
in the last what's the last vantage? That's what you show who win in
the Heisman Trophy? Do you JaydenAngels is winning it? Pay pretty well?
The other pretty well? Did hehave a moment where he said that's
the best player in America? Imean a full game. Dude, you're

(01:40:08):
fanatic. I know, I know. I just don't think Jade Daniels the
best player in the best player.Jayden Daniels is right there. I think
with the n he missed dynamic thingsthat he does. But yet he didn't
play in a big game, right. And I'm going to this when I
said, if Pennix and or BoonNicks have Nicks, is not gonna be
no, he's but he's gonna go. He's he does, no doubt he

(01:40:30):
Carson Beck didn't have his best game. He's not. He may not even
get invited now, but it's close. My thing is, did Pennix do
enough for you to say, wow, that's the Heisman undefeated PAC twelve?
Did he or has Jane Daniels beenthe better player? I think if he
did, if Michael Penix did dothat, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
We would know it's a no brainer. That's what I That's for me

(01:40:51):
going in I want if I walkedout of there saying, there's no question
Friday night, that's your heismotrophy.Do I believe Penix is now going to
finish? Probably second? Does hedeserve if he wins it, should you
be up in arms? Absolutely not? And what a great kid. But
in truth, and we got thebest players, and why the visual we
see? But the last if hehad to put a stamp on, it's
different. Bo Nicks had an averagegame, so guess what. We already

(01:41:14):
eliminated him after going in. Manythought he was the front runner. Same
thing with football. We look atGeorgia and the last thing we got you
got beat by Alabama. Even thoughyou're one of the four best teams,
we can't put you in now,Florida State. If Texas had lost two
games and won the Big Twelve Championship, if Washington had one loss but still
won the Big Twelve Championship, well, Georgie would probably still be in.

(01:41:36):
But then Florida State goes. Sodo I feel for Florida? Does Mike
Norvell and that team? You absolutelyhave all the biggest bitch on the play.
There is no question you can bitchall you want. You have the
biggest bitch going right now, biggerthan Georgia, even though because of your
record and what they say the criteriais but the best team in the country
in my mind, for my money, if I had a better it's still

(01:41:57):
Georgia. So they didn't get thatpart right. But with it, who
taking out for Florida State? RemoveGeorgia, Okay, they lost? Who
are you taking out nobody? FloridaState. Look, I get it,
I feel for those kids, Ifeel for the head coach, Mike Norvel.
But at the end of the day, without one of the Florida teams,
they have no business being in thecollege football playoffs. Listen, without
that quarterback, the seven teams,and of the eight teams, I would

(01:42:19):
take the other seven on the neutralside over Florida State, every single one
of them. Yeah, doesn't matterwho it is that Georgia, Oregon,
who else we met, Georgia,Oregon, Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan.
I'd take all of them to beatFlorida State in the game. So
Florida State that way, they're notone of the four best teams. So
while they have an argument, theway the system is, the system hosed

(01:42:39):
them. If we had eight teamsthere in and then we get to see
it. We don't this year wegot four teams. You're not taking Texas
out. No Alabama Hammer. Imean when I say Hammers, they had
a phenomenal football game and had tobattle it against the number one team who
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here on Sports Talk seven ninety.Shawn Salisbury, Brian Lilma, Emmanuel Elmore,
Texans being the Broncos take Dell outfor the season with a broken ankle.
College football playoffs, That's what we'regoing to discuss this hour. Willie
Fritz hired as the new head coachfor the University Houston football program. Let's

(01:44:05):
look at the college football playoffs.Number one Michigan taking on number four Alabama
and the Rose Bowl on January first, Washington and the University of Texas playing
in the All State Sugar Bowl.Obviously the Rose Bowl out in Pasadena,

(01:44:26):
California. Sugar Bowl can be playedin New Orleans at the Caesars Superdome.
Seawan, did the committee get itright Georgia Florida State left out? Well,
well, I they got it right, but they didn't get it right.
I guess it depends on which criteriayou're talking about. I think for

(01:44:47):
this year in twenty twenty three,the way it was set up and the
way it turned out, this isthe only way they could do it in
my opinion. If you're telling me, well, okay, you tell me
right now, I'm on the committee, go ahead. And and I'm asking
you, so you're asking me what'sthe crag you and I are on the
committee. I look, I say, what's our criteria? What is yours?

(01:45:11):
I mean, I'm asking you.You're as part of a third team
member, what's your number one thingyou got to win? Okay, on
the field I'm talking about, isthis last week, and when you're making
those decision, what is your numberone? When you're sending the four to
the playoff? What sits at thetop of your list? Who who's the
bet? Who's the best four?Say Louder, who are the best four
teams out of these eight? Thenthey didn't get it right. Then,

(01:45:32):
then they didn't get it right.If you're talking about who's the best four
under these circumstances, about conference championshipsand all the other criteria, they got
it right. Because in truth,if you're asking me, Sean, your
life's on the line, your yourmoney is on the line, your mortgage
is online. You said, ofthe top eight teams, you got to

(01:45:54):
put it all on one team towin it all the top eight, you
know who. I'm betting it onGeorgia without question, without quoting, and
Michigan probably second, and now Michigan'snumber one team in the country. And
Michigan quite frankly, offense passing,offense, while they're good, has been
a little bit suspect recently as faras their domination. But I would still

(01:46:16):
I'm talking about light, your mortgageis on the line, I'm still taking
Georgia over Michigan. And I wouldtake Alabama over a lot of those teams
too. I think Alabama's playing fantasticfootball right and Milroe's legs are friggin stupid.
That dude's a freak show with hisin physical get to hims one thing,
try to bring his ass downs another. And he can outrun you,

(01:46:36):
I mean, and is passing.While at times it was inconsistently, this
time, he still hit the rightthrows when necessary. He's a dangerous friggin
football player. Man. But Georgia, I would pick him over everybody.
So if you're going by the criteria, you say I want the four best,
the four best or not playing?Would I tell you about the last

(01:46:58):
look you give? The last lookGeorgia got was a loss for a team
that's won twenty almost thirty straight,two time national champion. Are they one
of the four best teams in America? Sean, they're playing on a neutral
site, Texas or Georgia. Whoyou're picking? I'm taking Georgiaia, Oregon,
Washington, Ohio State, they playAlabama again, It's hard to beat
a team to I would take Georgia. I just would. And Kirby say,

(01:47:21):
if you're talking about the four betyou can't convince me that george is
not one of the four best teams. So under your crimetera, you're just
taking the four best. We missedit there. But under the circumstances of
now you go down when we wantconference champions, well, we want undefeated
conference champions. Now, Florida Statewill tell you they didn't get it right,
and they do have a legitimate noquestions asked. Every year you say,

(01:47:43):
post your best, go win andif you win and you're the conference
champion, and an undefeated conference championwithout your two starting quarterback for two games
should go a long way. Theydeserve it. But who It's like an
All star when you pick an allstar, guys. Yeah, although this
is more important than an all stargame and a team effort. I'd lie
in the team from the team scenario. You tell me who you taking out

(01:48:04):
of the four who are there toput it? Remove Georgia from it.
We've already know why they're not in. Is Georgia one of the four best
teams in the country right now?Would you put your mortgage on them against
all the other seven? Absolutely ifyou had to, if I had so.
Did they get it right with thefour best No, well, if
you put your money on it wasGeorgia one of the four best tea Yes,
yeah, of course, so no, I don't think they did.

(01:48:25):
That's exactly that part. They didn't. But with all the other criteria that
comes in the last what's the lastvantage, that's what show who went in
the Heisman Trophy? Do you JaydenDaniels is winning it? He played pretty
well. Did he have a momentwhere he said that's the best player in
America? I mean a full game. Dude, you're fanatic. I know,

(01:48:48):
I know, I just don't JadeDaniels the best player, the best
player Jayden and Daniels is right there. I think that he missed make things
that he does, but yet hedidn't play in a big game, right.
And I'm go into this when Isaid, if Pennix and or bow
Nicks have Nick is not gonna beNo, he's he's, but he's gonna

(01:49:09):
go He's he's, no doubt.Carson Beck didn't have his best game.
He's not. He may not evenget invited now, but it's close.
My thing is, did Pennix doenough for you to say, wow,
that's the Heisman Undefeated? Pac twelve, I did he or as Jane Dange
has been the better player. Ithink if he did, if Michael Penix
did do that, we wouldn't behaving this discussion. We would know it's

(01:49:30):
a no brainer. That's what IThat's for me going in. I want
if I walked out of there sayingthere's no question Friday night, that's your
heismotrophy. Do I believe Penix isnow going to finish? Probably second?
Does he deserve if he wins it, should you be up in arms?
Absolutely not? And what a greatkid. But in truth we can and
week out the best players and whythe visual we see? But the last
if he had put a stamp onit's different. Boon Nicks had an average

(01:49:53):
game, so guess what. Wealready eliminated him after going in. Many
thought he was the front runner.Same thing with football. We we look
at Georgia and the last thing wegot you got beat by Alabama. Even
though you're one of the four bestteams. We can't put you in now
Florida State. If Texas had losttwo games and won the Big Twelve championship,
if Washington had one loss but stillwon the Big Twelve, championship.

(01:50:16):
Well, Georgia will probably still bein, but then Florida State goes.
So do I feel for Florida DoesMike Norvel and that team? You absolutely
have all the biggest bitch on theplay. There is no question. You
can bitch all you want. Youhave the biggest bitch going right now,
bigger than Georgia even though because ofyour record and what they say the criteria
is but the best team in thecountry in my mind, for my money,

(01:50:36):
if I had a better it's stillGeorgia. So they didn't get that
part right. But with it,who you taking out for Florida State?
Remove Georgia, Okay, they lost? Who you taking out nobody? Florida
State. Look, I get it. I feel for those kids, I
feel for the head coach, MikeNorvel. But at the end of the
day, without one of the FLORIDAFTteams, they have no business being in
the college football payoffs. Listen,without that quarterback, the seven teams,

(01:50:58):
and of the eight teams, Iwould take the other seven on the neutral
side over Florida State, every singleone of them. Yeah, doesn't matter
who it is that Georgia, Oregon, who else we met Georgia, Oregon,
Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan.I'd take all of them to beat
Florida State in the game. SoFlorida State that way, they're not one
of the four best teams. Sowhile they have an argument the way the
system is, the system hosed them. If we had eight teams therein and

(01:51:21):
then we get to see it,we don't. This year, we got
four teams. You're not taking Texasout. No Alabama Hammer I mean when
I say Hammers, they had aphenomenal football game and had to battle it
against the number one team who doesn'tlose, and you beat them early.
Like I said, please stop tellingme anybody that September games don't matter.

(01:51:42):
You damn right, they matter.They should have mattered more going into this
game. It should have been ifTexas wins Alabama or Georgia, regardless,
Texas should have been we should Texas. Alls they should have had to do
was go in and take care oftheir business handily, and they did.
They shouldn't have to worry about FloridaState or or the loser of the Georgia
Alabama game, because if Georgia wins, Texas was a lock. In my

(01:52:05):
opinion, a stone cold lock.Yeah, once Alabama won, and now
you're gonna go retroactive on me ifyou're the committee and say, oh,
okay, now the September win byby Texas matters because they went in to
beat Georgia two. That just heightensit. It shouldn't, heiden. It
was the biggest win of the yearon it's the best win of the year
of any of any of the topten teams in the country or anywhere.

(01:52:26):
Going tescal loose and winning, theyjust validated it even more. But that
shouldn't have even come into question.They beat him at matters. If not,
then I'm never scheduling a tough teamin September. So Texas going in
had Georgia won that game against Alabama, if you're Texas, you should have
started celebrating. Then there's no wayyou were going to put Florida State in
ahead them because Florida State is notone of the four best teams. And

(01:52:47):
then the eye tests for Florida Stateon the last game, you look at
you looked at there. Hey,I know you lawed diminished your team because
your quarterback wasn't there. And theyare listen, they proved they can win
without their quarterback. But you ain'tbeating Georgia or Alabama or Michigan without that
quarter Imagine that team going out playin Michigan, right, Well I can,
and they get beat by a coupleof touchdowns, right, So that

(01:53:10):
part it sucks and it's fine.And they are deeper and better than just
their quarterback. They've got listen.When it comes to pure athletes. They
can play with anybody. Their defenseis really good. Damn right they are.
They a third quarterback and they're notvery good. Oh so the eye
test told you that they're not atop four team in the country, So
they got it right that way.If you're talking about the four best teams
in the country, if you reallywant to make that argument, Georgia is

(01:53:30):
one of the four best teams inthe country. Period. And if my
mortgage was on the line and Ihad to bet everything on it and you
said, take of the top eight, who you picking, I'm going right
to Athens Georgia and laying my moneyon that table. Yeah boo. Corgan,
the chair of the College Football PlayoffCommittee, explain why they chose Alabama
over Florida State. We'll hear thataudio next. N Stop it. Oh,

(01:53:55):
they had, they asked them,and it's pretty interesting to listen to.
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(01:54:58):
the Shawn Salisbury Show. Here onwards Talk seven ninety Sean Brown and Triple
Lee Texans beat the Broncos. WillieFritz, hired as the new head coach
for the University of Houston, Takedelleout for the season with a broken ankle,
talking college football and the college footballplayoffs. Some audio from bou Corgan,
part of the College Football Playoff committee. He told us why the committee

(01:55:19):
chose Alabama over Florida State, Andthis is what Boo had to say,
why did you choose Alabama? Well, I think in looking at it and
again, that was the decision wasAlabama at four. Florida State is a
different team than they were through thefirst eleven weeks. Coach Norvel, their

(01:55:42):
players, their fans, you know, an incredible season. But as you
look at who they are as ateam right now, without Jordan Travis,
without the offensive dynamic that he bringsto it, they are a different team.
And the committee voted Alabama four inFlorida State five. There are a
number of people in that committee room, Boo who have football backgrounds. Jim

(01:56:04):
Grove, great coach at at WakeForest, you had Will Shield to a
Hall of Fame player. You've gotJoe Taylor, great coach, Chris All,
great coach. When they were debatingthis, and Booker's been talking about
it's okay to win with defense.When the coaches, the football judgment people
in the room we're debating this,what moved them? I think it's one

(01:56:28):
of the questions that we do askis from a coaching standpoint, you know,
who do you want to play?Who do you not want to play?
And as we go through that again, looking at where we are today
right not where we were three weeksago or you know, eight weeks ago,
who do they want to play?Who do they not want to play?
And they've got a significant voice inthe room. And as we went

(01:56:50):
through that, and we went aroundand around late last night, came back
again this morning to do it again, and you know again we came back
with you know, the top fouris we did in Florida State at five.
That's boot Corgan. I personally justthe Florida State thing once the day

(01:57:12):
started to continue on, after watchingthe way Texas played football and yours and
the eye test, which is partof it, having those football guys in
the room, and watching Alabama dowhat they did. The Florida State game
to me was nothing more than theformality, right. I think going into
the game, I didn't have anyWhen I woke up Sunday morning, it
was Michigan, Alabama, Washington andTexas in no particular order. I to

(01:57:39):
me my question, and I knowpeople don't like you said for you listening
to HERB Street and they talk aboutfor best. Mine wasn't whether Alabama's going,
as I've said all along, orTexas. Mine was is Georgia gonna
unseat somebody like Oregon had an Oregonone? I mean, obviously on Saturday

(01:58:00):
wouldn't think this, but if Oregonwould to be Washington, is Georgia the
one? And if you really lookat schedules, in truth, Michigan hadn't
beat anybody other than they beat OhioState and their quarterbacks transfer. They beat
Penn State. That's it. Imean, I don't mean it's disrespectful.
I mean, if we're talking abouthardcore rough going, they were able to
use their quarterback. I mean,if you want to talk about teams that
look different, what six games thisyear they didn't have their head coach?

(01:58:25):
Yeah, and they went and won, which but take a look at the
if in truth you want to talknow, Michigan's number one, and I
think a lot of us had themat the top of the heat preseason.
Michigan belongs in it. Don't misunderstandme, and I think they can win
the whole thing. My point issome of the things you are punishing another
school by you're not doing the samething to certain schools that you get.

(01:58:46):
My point isn't the ad at Michiganon that committee as well. I don't
know why, but should an athleticdirector in a Power five school be on
that committee? In truth? Shouldthey? I mean, I listen,
you're always going to lean towards yourconference and possibly your team. Okay,
but regardless, I didn't have aI still went in on Saturday night thinking

(01:59:13):
you're telling me George's not one thefour best team. I agree with Kirby
Smart, they're one of the fourbest teams. That was my question Florida
State. Once the night game gotto fruition and you saw what Michigan was
going to do to Iowaio can't movethe ball. I didn't think Florida State's
win unless they'd have hung fifty fiveon them. I didn't think Florida State
was even in the conversation anymore.And there is no way somebody's going to
tell me that Alabama beating Georgia inthat game in the SEC champion Alabama lost

(01:59:38):
early in the season, has adjustedgot their quarterback role and that they're not
one of the four best teams inthe country. That wasn't even in.
It wasn't even in question. Iknow they would ended up four, is
that correct? Yes, you sawthe Michigan Did you see the Michigan room
when they announced the fourth team was? Yeah, they were. They were
like, I don't want to playthem, Damn, I'd rather play Florida
State. It tells you everything youneed to know. Alabama to me,

(02:00:01):
was never in question if they beatGeorgia. It was never a question.
And it beat it, just likebuy a field goal, just like we
said, what if it's a fieldgoal game? Right? And it was
it was. But the problem isyou can't take Washington out. You can't
take the lesser of two evils.Is Florida State staying home? Okay?
Not Florida State going? And Ihate to say that. It bums me

(02:00:25):
out for them. Alabama to me, with the viger at victory over Georgia,
they said they were talking about it. They weren't giving that too much
thought. Dude. Now I'm justtelling you they weren't. Alabama was going.
Let's get out to the phone lineseven one three two one two five
seven. I had start with biscuit, Biscuit, thanks for holding man,
what's up? By my ma?Lima. We had this discussion last week.
Did we lima big Sean and Sean? I think I think we One

(02:00:48):
thing we underestimated with the committee inregards to ut and Alabama is is they
did take an account all long becauseLima, you can matter fact check me
with a but Sis Texas beat Alabama. Texas never dropped below Alabama, and
so if you're gonna move Alabama up, the Horns gotta go too well,

(02:01:12):
depending depending on who they played alongthe way, Yeah, you're you're you're
right. It worked out both ways. Once Texas won, yeah, I
honestly, and when Washington you doit in Michigan, wa. Yeah.
To me, the Florida State gamewas a formality. The winner of the
SEC Championship was going and should Istill think George is one of the four
best teams in the country, butthis year you couldn't put him in because

(02:01:34):
how would you even explain that oneto Oregon or Texas or Alabama. You
get beat by Alabama and you stillgo. No, Alabama was going.
But they what they did is theyheightened the September wind because Alabama beat Georgia.
I would have had I would havehad Texas ahead of them all along
anyway, And the truth is bythem saying that Oregon and Ohio State were

(02:01:58):
ahead of Texas, they didn't youit as much as they should have.
But once they saw what Alabama didto Georgia, there's like they looked at
each other and said, I guesswe should take September football pretty seriously.
Damn right, you should Texas.After Texas's win, To me, it
was a no brainer. It didnot matter what happened. Georgia wins,
Texas was going Alabama wins. Convincedly. Florida State was always We've talked about

(02:02:23):
it for weeks, was always goingto be if there was an odd man
out, it was going to bethem win or lose. And that's exactly
what happened. One question for you, and this is the problem I had
with the committee, But I wantedto see it happen, to see what
they would do. But because theproblem that they can't explain is why does
lusor late in the year count morethan lose early in the year. You

(02:02:45):
know, I have no idea.Yes, that's the one they can't explain
because, like you said, Georgia, their misfortunate is they lost later in
the year. If they had lostearly in the year, they'd be going.
Yeah, I agree. If thisloss that Georgia had would have been
in September, they would have hadeven a more difficult time putting like Washington

(02:03:06):
ahead of Georgia. I'm just tellingyou they would have they it would have
been they would have struggled because Georgiais one of the four best teams.
It's the timing of the loss.Yet Alabama was three. I don't know
why. Now. I understand iffour guys on your roster get hurt,
you're starting quarterback ers, why youdemit with like Florida State, they are
a different team. But when Alabamagot beat by Texas, Alabama was the

(02:03:30):
third ranked team in the country andclimbing, and they got beat at that
point in time, why we diminishit because outside out of mind, there
was nothing diminished about it. Itshouldn't have been. It was a It's
the biggest win of the year untilthis one, Alabama beating Georgia, which
benefited Texas and Alabama both. Yeah, I don't get You're exactly right.
Georgia, by winning twenty something almostthirty games straight, got beat by a

(02:03:55):
really good Alabama team by a fieldgoal, and that's the only reason they're
not there, because they are oneof the best teams in the country period.
Thank you for the call, Biscuit. Thanks Biscuit. Think if Washington
had one loss but was a Packtwelve champs, if Texas had two losses
as the Big twelve champs, Georgiawould be in, right, they would
have flat ass in. That's exactlytitle game against Alabama. No Ques,

(02:04:16):
especially Texas with two loss would havebeen out no doubt, even if they'd
have won the Big Big twelve championship. If if Washington had one loss but
would have still won the Big thePack twelve championship, guess what, Georgia
is your fourth team and they wouldhave taken them. They had a Florida
State at least they should have,right, if you're going by best teams,
Let's get the John real quick beforethe break, John, what's going
on? It was Fellows? Uh, I kind of I'm kind of disappointed

(02:04:42):
in the committee. I feel likethat Florida State. They don't know what
Flawoda Stake would have did if theygot to play out Flada Stake got a
pretty good defense and the fact thatmatter is. They always asked them why
these playoffs hop from team the team, but they go on for the money
because they can't be lawed to oneteam if they go underfeeding and don't make

(02:05:04):
it to the Big Dance. Imean, how bad can that be?
They played everybody that was on theirschedule, even when they lost they starting
quarterback. They didn't fold the gameout there and won the game they won.
They won their comfort, which almostfeels John like it should be more
impressive, right that they won withbackups. Yeah, no, I'm with
you. I get that. Yeah, so your player, you got a

(02:05:26):
player you want to be lowed toyour team? He said, Man,
it's the money grab. I mean, if Alabama's gonna be in there anyway
from eighth spot, why do theyhave flayda stake in there? In the
gate go in the top fot.If you're gonna do that, you should
have dropped them a long time ago. If they weren't the best team of
the league, you should have Imean, in the company, should have
gotten them a week ago and putAlabama up there. Alabama hop from the

(02:05:50):
eighth spot to the playoffs, that'snot right, that's not They probably should
have been they probably should have beenhigher than eight going in to that game.
That's what they should have been.Yes, you're right. So I
just feel like they messed up.I feel like they're gonna mess up college
football because they kind of make money. They want eyes on the game,

(02:06:11):
they want people watch these games.But they telling the kid, hey,
loick man, if you don't goto the SEC, you ain't gonna play
in the playoff. I don't careif you win every game you play,
because that's what they want in theplayoffs to put it's a money grab.
So I just think it's gonna bebad for college I'm gon hang up with
listen, guys, John, that'sa fantastic point. Fantastic point. How
in the world where if you wereif you knew that Florida State and Alabama

(02:06:33):
were doing it and one's playing Georgiaand one's playing Louisville and the impressive who
the eye test told you Alabama wasplaying better football. Yeah, so I
understand those kids should be bummed,and so should Mike Norvel. They did
everything. All they did was playthe schedule. Guy gets hurt what he's
supposed to do? Quit playing thelast two games? What do they do
they show up play defense rears athead and they win? I get the

(02:06:55):
argument one hundred percent, which he'salso John's also right. Think about this
quarterback at Oklahoma. They're one gameaway from being Big twelve champions. What
happened Dylan Gabriel? He's transferring KyleMcCord, five star recruit, the eleven
and one team transfer Ohio State,and they're they're a game away from being
in the final four. Yeah,it's unprecedented. We're going it will not

(02:07:21):
shock me. I may be completelywrong. Is Dylan Gabriel following Jeff Levy
to Mississippi State? Yeah, youwould think that that seems logical, right,
offensive coordinator leads it's a perfect heknows that use about me in the
SEC. So, I mean,it's got to be something like that.
It's so odd how you're the guyand now you're not the guy because you

(02:07:45):
decided to leave. It's weird tome with this college football playoff and the
committee, where do they draw theline when it comes to getting the top
teams in? But also how areyou going to diminish teams that win like
Florida State. Let's talk about annext sportsock seven ninety The Shawn Salisbury Show.
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(02:08:09):
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(02:08:35):
cit Talking college football here on theShawn Salisbury Show, Sean Bryn and Triple
Lee. Michigan versus Alabama, Texasversus Washington. Those are your college football
playoff matchups. The Texans beat theBroncos over the weekend, Tankdall out for
the season with a broken Anklets continueto take your call seven one three,
two one two five, seven ninety. The number to join go to Todd

(02:08:58):
Todd, what's up? Yeah,So I was going to ask you guys,
if Georgia is in what team?It's right there right now, would
be out. I'm going Texas everyday. They probably would have if they
would have decided to put Georgia in. Yes, Texas, and then it

(02:09:20):
would have been a major uproar overwell, we beat Alabama with one win,
but yet they would have said thatthe win from Alabama over Georgia was
more impressive to the committee than thewin over Texas at Alabama yet they went
to Tuscaloosa and beat him, althoughthe game was in Atlanta. That would
probably be the case, whether welike it or not, whether it's right.
I was asking Brian during commercial wherewould the nation be more up in

(02:09:45):
arms? We know now that wherethey are with Florida State. If Alabama
beats Georgia and Alabama gets left out, as the committee guy said, it
came down to Alabama and Florida State. I don't believe they made it that
tough a decision. I think whenit got to that, it was easy.
But if you'd have left Alabama afterbeating Georgia and put Florida State in
with the country, even though Iknow they get fatigue from Alabama, would

(02:10:07):
they be more apt to be pissedthat Alabama got in or more pissed that
Florida State got in when you're lookingat the four best. But you're right,
if Georgia got in because Washington wasundefeated and passes the eye test more
than Florida State, it would havebeen Washington, Georgia, Alabama, and
Michigan. If they would have putGeorgia in, I'm assuming, but they

(02:10:28):
made the right decision keeping Texas in, although if you're picking the four best,
Georgia should still be in. Ifyou were going by the four best,
I just don't know who you takeout. You would have taken out
Florida State, but that leaves fiveteams, all the more reason why if
we had eight, I would beton Georgia to win the national champion.
Appreciate, appreciate the call, Todd. Let's go out to Jack. Jack.

(02:10:50):
What's up? Hey, Good morning, Sean, Good morning. Hey.
Just want to say Florida State,they did every that they were supposed
to do and still didn't get in. And that is sad for the players
and the families that they did everythingthat they're supposed to do, won the
game, all their games, wonthe conference championship with the loss of a

(02:11:13):
quarterback, and still didn't make it. I think every caller can agree that
the playoff is too small, andthank goodness that they're going to fix it
next year. I'll hang out thewell, Jack, before you go anywhere.
Who would you have taken out?If you were on the committee and
they made an argument and you hadto post your argument in front of your
committee of you thirteen, if youput Florida State in, who you taken
out. Well, that is whythey do not assign me to that job.

(02:11:39):
And that's what it's gonna make it. Well, who would you put
in? You said they got andyou're right, Florida State, Hey,
you only can play the schedule.You can only do your best with the
players you got, and you keepwinning. Who would you have taken out?
Honestly? The University of Texas?All right, fair enough, I
think that's probably the majority of peopleif that was going to be the case.
Yet, even they did their best, the eye tests and all.

(02:12:01):
That's why when human air comes intoit. The truth is, if it
was a computer, Florida State wouldbe in. Yeah, if it was
the BCS, right, they wouldbe in. But and he's right,
Jack is one. That's why Ifeel sick for them. But I'd feel
sick if Washington got eliminated. Ifeel sick for Texas. But they were
undefeated. They did what they did. What you're told to do, you

(02:12:22):
go go undefeed, and when yourconference, you're guaranteed. That's what have
been the talk of the best.You're guaranteed to get in. Well,
not in Florida State's case, andthey did get beat and they did not.
I mean, they won, andthey did get beat When it came
to the four, they didn't getin. They do have an argument,
but they are not one of thefour best teams in the country. But
Jack makes a great point about howit gets it, and I think the
majority of people said, take Texasout put Florida stateium. If you would

(02:12:45):
have to make a change, Let'sget to Richard on the east side.
Richard, what's up? Yes,the only christ the only problem I have
is that they had the nerve.The committee had the nerve to list their
criterion, and the fourth one wasessentially, well, if we judged that
your secondary players aren't as good asyour primary ones, we're gonna downgrade you.
And and and history is chock fullof teams that went into games with

(02:13:09):
unexpected injury and still won. Youcan't project that onto a team, right
And you know what else, Richardgo back to Urban Myers. Last was
his last national championship at when TomHerman was the offensive coordinator. Remember they
got down to their third quarterback,Cardale Jones, and they won the national
title exactly. And you can youcan cite a litany of stories, you

(02:13:31):
know, Magic Johnson beating the Lakersin Boston Garden without Kareem. You know,
you can just go on and onand on. You don't get to
judge the heart of a team bywho can't play. Unfortunately, they did
the team on on what I know. That's what I that's the only problem
I have. Like, that's reallyill. Yeah, no, great point.

(02:13:52):
Listen, there's nobody that can say. Now the itess you're saying.
If we just if the one criteriawas take the four best teams in the
country, take the very four bestteams. Guess what if they say we're
going one I test, you guysare gonna study it, and you're taking
the four best teams in America,it would be Georgia would be in.
I believe Georgia would be in.Yes. In fact, I'm not so

(02:14:15):
sure they wouldn't go Georgia, Texas, Michigan, Alabama. I'm not sure
Washington wouldn't get left out because onthe PAC twelve sometimes people don't get to
see them play enough. But ifyou're taking the best four teams, we
don't have the four best teams,I don't think because Georgia is one of
the four best. But Florida Statecan't control the injuries. They just got
to go win, and Texas tookcare of their business like they were asked

(02:14:39):
to. Alabama went in tough environment. Washington's undefeated. Yeah, you're you're
punishing a team for injuries, yetyou're also trying to reward a team for
having depth and recruiting right, andthe coaching doing a great job. I
don't know how you do it.The only real answer is we shouldn't have
four teams. We should have eight, right, That's the only real answer.
Well, thank god, nobody ofthe five teams, the first six

(02:15:01):
teams actually today, of the firstsix teams, every single one of them
believes they've earned the right to go. And Georgia may just have this big
argument as Florida State does. Ithink they do. I think they do.
Booker McFarland spoke on the College FootballPlayoff Rankings show yesterday his issues with
the four that got in. We'llhear the audio, and discussed next on

(02:15:22):
the Shawn Salisbury Show, Going NonStop Sean with former QB Sean Salisbury.
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Talk seven ninety Sean Bryn and TripleLea. Texas beat the Broncos college football
playoff Michigan versus Alabama, Texas versusWashington. Willie Fritz hired as a new
head coach for the University of Houston. Let's get back out to the phone

(02:16:15):
line seven one, three, twotwo five at seven, I need to
go to Cowboy Darrel. Cowboy Darrel, what's going on? It was going
on, Fellas, Hey, man, not this about this U four man
committee, man, I mean thisfourteen committee. The first thing I want
to say I like was, uh, I like what Steve Spurry said.
Man. He said, you know, his comment was that those those conference

(02:16:37):
championship title of matches were like titlefights, close title fights. He's saying,
a close title fights, you gotout point, you you got to
look good in that fight, andthat those last three rounds, so you
can't go limping until those last threerounds. And what he was talking about
was he was talking about someone thatasked him about Cordillo Jones when he was
with Ohio State and also with FloridaState, you know, having a replaced

(02:17:00):
quarterbacks. He said even though theyhad to replace quarterbacks at Ohio State,
they didn't go limping into those rounds. He said, they didn't lose,
no drop off. I said,you can see it was a considerable drop
off. When Travis went out,there was not playing for Florida State,
Cardio Jones, and then when backsand Miller goes down, they you know,
Carlo Jones the third man down,and they never lost any I mean,

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they never lost in the drop offwith all three quarterbacks they played.
So I mean, I think ifFlorida State would have shown that they were
not struggling, they would have beenthere. You know, you can't I
like what I like what Oball coachsaid. He said, you got He
said those last rounds of those otherseason you got them showed that the voters

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man that hey we have not droppedoff. There's no drop off here.
They gotta complaint. I feel forhim because they did what they had to
do. But in a Florida's system, man, you got you only got
four spaces and those judges looking atthose last those last two rounds, you
know. And uh. Also Iwant to congratulate na show off summer Crete
going to the regionals. And alsocongratulated Houston new coach and also Sean,

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I like what you said also aboutabout that poor the deal with Dylan transferring
out. Man, Man, theygot to be careful about that thing.
Hey man, I'm gonna hang upand listen. Appreciate it. Cowboy Daralel
great stuff, I mean, verywell said about it. It really is
true. You talking about a titlefight and when you fight somebody, if
you want to beat the champ,meaning get in before somebody is, you

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have to the last three rounds.Recency biased, and what we saw last
always matters. It's human nature.And the last thing we saw and you
did not when you saw Cardell Jonesplay. For anybody who was watching,
there was no drop off. Aguy played out of his friggin mind.
So that's what he's talking about,and he is one hundred percent correct.
Cowboy Daryl is as his spurrier sayingit. And the eye test, which

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is a we hear him mentioned allthe time. The eye test tells you
Florida State didn't one of the bestfour. The victory and the way they
win and just going out and grindingout doing what they're told they needed to
do to get to the final fourthey did. The problem is there were
six teams worthy of a national championshipopportunity, six of them and Oregon at

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Ohio State just not enough to beone of those six. Now, if
they all got in, could FloridaState run the table? I guess.
But with the offense, there isa drastic drop off from a Heisman Trophy
candidate to your second guy, letalone you're a third guy. There is
no doubt that is the reason theydid not get in. And I feel
for them, but I would havefelt for Washington as well. It sucks

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And what do you tell your kids? Man, you just tied it,
Augusta. You shot sixty four inthe final round. The problem is or
you shot sixty eight on the finalround. The other team shot sixty four
in the final round, but youtied, and you don't get a chance
to go in the playoffs off.Yeah, they're sixty eight or their sixty

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for their sixty eight, and you'resixty eight. Let's put it that way.
They made six birdies on the backnine to get to sixty eight.
You part the last eight holes toget to sixty eight, And guess what
that means going into a playoff I'mtaking that guy as opposed to that guy.
Yeap. Unfortunately, fortunately golf,we get to playoff here. If
you had fifteen guys, you're playingoff here. Once you outside top five,

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you can't. And that's the argumentthat Florida State is gonna have to
deal with all off season is andyou're gonna hear it. They're gonna feed
off that all offs. What elsewe gotta do? Schedule a seventeenth game,
and it's just the eye test costthem and an injury cost them.
There's no other reason that Mike Norvelcould have done nothing else. You just
try to survive to win the lasttwo, and they did the second string

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quarterback and then a third string quarterback. Kudos to a great year for Florida
State, but sadly enough, theyaren't one of the four best teams in
the country. For them, let'sgo to Parentland and talk to Brian.
Brian, what's going on? Hey, good morning, guys. Wanted to
elaborate. I would have honestly shownand here's the reason. I would have
left both Texas and Alabama out.I would have kept Georgia in. They

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were the best team all year long, and I would have put Florida State.
In if you look at Texas,they had way too many just close
surviving advanced whids. Yes, theydid go into Tuscaloosa and dominate Bama on
their home field. Impress it win. I watched it. My wife's a
longhorn, so I'd watched a lotof those games, even though it makes

(02:21:30):
me sick to my stomach because myteam is in shambles right now. But
the reason I leave them out isthey escaped against a bad U of H
team. They escaped against the badTCU team. They should have lost at
home to Kansas State. Now theydidn't, but those were more mistakes by
those teams than Texas going out andwinning those games. They should have made

(02:21:54):
a statement against you of H.They should you know, U of H
is having a down year. Theyshould have beat them by They should have
beat TCU by thirty, you know. And then and then they lose to
an Oklahoma team who turns out wasn'tthat great in the end and got drugged
by the team that they beat inOklahoma State. So when you look at

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that, that to me the eyetests. And yes, Bama came in
and somewhat controlled Georgia, but theydid it in a title game. They
didn't do it in a regular seasongame at a neutral site, and they
won by three. So that's thereason why I would have probably loved those
two teams out because you asked FloridaState, like like everybody's mentioned, to
do everything you wanted to do.They won team football with a third string

(02:22:41):
quarterback. Ask A and m howhard it is to win with a backup,
much less a third string quarterback.And you know what with it all
year, right, Brian, Andyou know what, in truth, if
we were going by somebody, ifthey had like the Hear's criteria, letters
of the law in the in thatcommittee room, if you really wanted to
do it that way, even ifyou put George out, the truth is

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you take the three undefeated conference championsand then decide on the fourth. Right,
it would have been Washington, Michigan, Florida State, even though we
don't think Florida State's one of thefour best. They took care of their
business. Then you're deciding on Texas, Alabama, Georgia, and the Georgia
argument. Getting beat by Alabama wouldhave been tough because they see once you
get beat, the last thing theyremember is I'm taking the conference champion.

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So let's say you removed Georgia thenand it came down to Alabama Texas well,
Texas beat Alabama, but the committeecould have made the art what will
happened now? Then they're better now? Aren't they doing that? With Florida
State? They're a different football toyou. Didn't you hear the committee boose
say that they're different with these itlooks different. So you punished Florida State
for looking different, but you didnot punish Alabama for playing different if in

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your scenario, right, So Iget it. It almost feels like,
just by the letter of the law, that the three undefeated conference champions should
have gone correct and then start decidingover the one lost teams Alabama, Georgia
and Texas. That would that Iget Yeah, I get it. I
do you make a good point?I get that. Can you say in

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a way too? I mean,Ohio State lost on on the road on
a last second, you know,kind of at the last minute to the
number one team now in the countryin Michigan. I mean, they weren't
even getting any type of mention,right, It's because of the most right
recent losing in the conference championship andtheir eye test wasn't that good offensively either,

(02:24:31):
So I get it. You're right, hell of a point. Yeah,
great stuff, Brian. That that, Brian, that was a you
make a good point. If youwanted that argument, you could have put
the three undefeated conference champions and thenargued between Alabama the Texas beating them,
and then you know, is Georgiastill the better team after getting beat by

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Alabama which some had Alabama out evenafter beating Georgia, which would have been
a very tough call. But there'sgonna be an argument when it comes to
the six. The argument is validfor all of them. Sports Talk seven
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Okay, let's do this. ShawnSalisbury wait to quarterback Suth Houston shows
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Sean Salisbury here along with Triple EBrian Lilima. Texans take care of their
business. Heisman Trophy. Today isthe last day to get your ballot in
OH. Ceremony is on that ceremonieson Saturday. I believe Jade and Daniels
wins at Pennox second, probably BoNicks third, But Jade Daniels was the

(02:26:48):
best player I saw on a consistentbasis all year long. Regardless how do
you been on Washington's team or Oregon'steam or anything else. Hey, they
would have their record would have beenjust as good as it is now.
He was the best I saw Pennixmay sneak in, But I got no
issue giving it to Jade Daniels becauseit's not even given it to him.
He earned it. With the CollegeFootball Playoff, you get Michigan, Alabama,

(02:27:11):
and Texas and Washington are your fourteams. Alabama will play Michigan,
and Texas will take on the Texaswill take on Washington in the semi and
it should be a fun final four. You can argue, is it the
four best teams or did Georgia belonginn Florida State. Let me let me

(02:27:33):
roll through this real quick. Wehave naysayers versus Texas, and we have
them. I'm glad Texas is init. I think they may very well
have the best play caller and theway quinn Ewers played, it's going to
be hard to stop that offense ifit's going good. But here here were
the records. Unless I read somethingwrong, but I took a snapshot of
this, and here's the records ofthe path of the Big twelve. The

(02:27:54):
argument we have heard and I sawa guy post this and said they have
beat up the Pac twelve in thepast. About the conference, and I
know when it says quality of wins, But here are the records so you
can decide. For those that keepasking, well, why was Texas as
an automatic? I'll get messages sentto me and then I'll get some said,
yeah, they beat Alabama, theyshould be an automatic. I get

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both. Here's the Big Twelve conferences. The record's overall this year. Texas
twelve and one in the final four, Oklahoma ten and two, Oklahoma State
nine and four, Kansas State eightand four, West Virginia eight and four,
Iowa State seven and five, Kansaseight and four, Texas Tech six
and six, UCF six and six, TCU five and seven, BYU five

(02:28:37):
and seven, Houston four and eight, Baylor three and nine, Cincinnati three
and nine. Regardless of what thatmeans, was the Big Twelve a good
average great conference this year? Doyou consider Oklahoma State one of the top
teams in the country. I don'thave answers for you. I mean,

(02:28:58):
I have my answers. But atKansas State, who's always tough, at
eight and four, is that abig win for a team that plays against
them? Whoever it is? IowaState seven and five, West Virginia eight
and four, There were a lotof people going into this season that thought
that I was with with a bunchof coaches at a time over the summer

(02:29:20):
which felt that this was either makeor break West Virginia's coaching staff was going
to be replaced. Well, theywent out and won. You went eight
and four and were pretty impressive attimes in a time when some thought they
were going to be bottom of thebarrel. So there are some impressive stuff
this year. The question is,and I'm curious, had they decided on
Georgia of the three Georgia Florida Stateout, Let's say Alabama got in.

(02:29:48):
How much backlash would they have facedif Georgia would have got in instead of
Texas and left Texas and Florida Stateout. What would the world have done
if they went so much se bias? Yet, here's the one thing about
it. You also know that Oklahomaand Texas headed to the SEC. You're

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bringing one of your guys in.My question is would there have been more
backlash of these three? More backlashif Georgia, who is out going on
around the country as one of thefour best teams, Florida State, they
there's backlash in their town. ButI wouldn't imagine nationally it's as big.
I wonder what the national talk wouldhave been seven one three, two one

(02:30:31):
two five, seven ninety. IfTexas would have been shut down on this,
they would have said, NAT,the win doesn't mean that much.
They're a different team now, isAlabama than Texas? Which I don't agree.
I mean, to me, thatwin was as big a win as
there was all year long before theconference championships, Texas beating Alabama in Tuscaloose
by ten points, I wonder where'sthe biggest backlash. Let me even throw

(02:30:56):
Alabama into this. If Alabama winningthat game by three points would have been
left home, what would the nationhave said? If Texas had beat Alabama
and Alabama got in, but Texaswas left home with Florida State because Georgia
got in because they still think they'reone of the four best, Then what
happens of all those that got in? Florida State's the one that I think

(02:31:20):
people are least likely going to battleabout because the eye test. Yet they
went thirteen and oh and won theirconference and were pretty damn good all year
long. I'm wondering what would havebeen a bigger argument. Who do you
think is better Georgia or Texas.I was just going through Oklahoma ten and
two, Oklahoma State nine and forKansas State eight and for West Virginia eight,

(02:31:41):
for Iowa State seven and five,Kansas eight and for Texas Tech six
and six, UCF six and six, TCU five and seven, b YU
five and seven, Houston four andeight, Baylor three and nine, Cincinnati
three and nine, the Big twelve. Yeah, was it as good a
conference is? I get some messagesfrom people saying why should Texas be in
overflow Florida State or just kind ofget an idea of I personally, I

(02:32:07):
know this is going to sound harsh. If I was in that committee room,
I would have said, I understandthe plight for Florida State, but
you're and I would have said,how much is the eye test or the
way the team's changed? And ifthey said that's big criteria, I would
have battled more for Georgia in thefinal four than I would have Florida State
because I think george is a betterteam by a long shot. That's out

(02:32:28):
their quarterback. So how so,again, if if you look at even
the rankings now as they stand,Florida State is still higher than Georgia.
How why didn't Florida if if youif you thought that they weren't one of
the top four teams, how doyou only drop them to number five?
Why is Georgia not ahead of you? Because conference champion? Yes, one

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person in that room, I guarantasked, t it not under this with
the way the floyd like I said, I'm not shrinking Florida State. I
actually give them more credit that eventhough it looked different, the eye test
was not passable for the final four, that their team sucked it up and
went and went won two games thatquite frankly, they could have lost had

(02:33:15):
they not played good football with backupquarterbacks the second the third stringer. I
give them a ton of credit forthe players not pouting and going and taking
care. All they can do istake care that the number one goal is
to win, and they won thirteenin a row. So that but the
eye test doesn't stand up. Butyou talked about well, to tell me
your question again, which one theone that you just uh So one of

(02:33:39):
the audios that I that I sentTriple E Booger mcfonland talks about in my
question about it was he talks aboutwinning. The goal is to win.
So where's the fine line between thebest four teams or winning? Because Florida
State won all of their games,right and my, and then they don't
control that, they're just they're ina power five school. To say,
if you're a powerfied school and youwin your conference, going and feeded,
you're in. That's usually the criteria. Right. But what I was going

(02:34:01):
to say is in that meeting roomwith the eye tests and everything, there
is not one soul of the thirteenthat if we'd have said Alabama, I
mean, George's playing Florida State.Who you picking today? It's not Florida
States. There would have been no, oh uh, well are you telling
me the quote? No, we'renot Jordan Travis. We'll tell you if
they said now, even if JordanTravis was a quarterback, not one person

(02:34:24):
would pick Florida's honest, neutral site. Nobody to pick Florida State to beat
Georgia. No, not one ofthe thirteen. Yet they got them ranked
ahead because the optics say at thirteenand oh one conference champion, we have
to put you ahead, absolutely haveto. I don't know many people that
would take they don't think Georgia canbeat everybody on this list. I'm not

(02:34:45):
sure Florida State can't. Obviously,Oregon couldn't, Ohio State couldn't. Texas
may or may not be able to. They posted a huge win, but
I would have made a bigger argumentif you're talking about eye test and best
teams, that Georgia would have beenin the last argument with Texas. Alabama
beat Georgia. To me, theSEC champion is in unless he had two
losses or more this one. Andthe way the eye test is telling you

(02:35:09):
Alabama's playing about as good as anybodyin America right now, is it would
have come down to me Georgia andTexas, not George and Florida State.
If the two things I'm looking foreye test, what kind of roster you
got now? And who's better?George's two touchdowns better than Florida State minimum
right now. Yeah, So that'sto me, it's that's not the argument

(02:35:31):
of the six teams. Florida Stateshould be sixth, but their thirteen n
old record says they should be higher. I feel horrible for them. You
don't have to, you don't haveto put them on the outside and hate
it. It's just that the circumstancesthis year, you wanted a little little
chaos and you got it. Becausethe argument for Georgia and Florida State is
gonna Kirby Smart is going to feedthis thing in Mike Norville all off season
for his players all off season.You win three, you got, you

(02:35:54):
win two. It or you're undefeatedtwo straight years and then you're about to
be undefeated again. You'll lose bya field goal to the hottest team in
America and you're telling me we're notworthy. He does have an argument,
but they didn't take care of theirbusiness with all their players healthy. I
say that, yet the truth isduring the game McConkey going in Bower,
all their players really weren't healthy.But bottom line is you got beat in

(02:36:18):
a big game, and I understandwhy they're not in it. Yeah,
but they are one of the fourbest teams. Yeah, I agree,
and I think I think I thinkthey got it right. But you could
definitely have arguments for Florida State andGeorgia. I think Georgia's got a better
argument to get in than Florida Statein my opinion, just because of that
roster and their loss to Alabama andthe SEC title game. I I'm really

(02:36:39):
looking forward to having a twelve teamplayoff rather than this four team BS.
I'd take eight right now. Thenthen we'd be able to get it on.
Oregon and Ohio State would still beincluded. That'd be fun to watch.
I would enjoy an eighteen. Sowe finished seventh, Ohio State and
then Oregon eighth, Orgon eighth.Yeah. Okay that all eight team minus

(02:37:01):
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Let's go. This is the SeanSalisbury Show. Play. Welcome back

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to the Shawn Salisbury Show here onSports Talk seven ninety. Texans beat the
Broncos. Thank Dell out for theseason with a broken ankle suffered that in
that win against the Broncos. Collegefootball playoffs or sets we've been talking about.
Got some audio from Kirk curb Streetthat we're gonna get into the second.
But before we get to that,let's get out to Stafford none other

(02:39:41):
than Larry. Larry, what's happening? What's going on? Beat lima shun
long time no chop man? Yeah, man, Yeah, man's wondering where
you've been, man, Hey man, just out here grinding man, trying
to get it in with my sonand his baseball team. Man, But
we good man, don't think thatI don't be listening because y'all know,
how do We're gonna talk real quickabout them Horns. Real quick? Are

(02:40:03):
you folks going around, crime,because my Long Horns got in coast to
our hands down somewhere. The Hornswas supposed to get in. What we
did Obama up in Alabama in Septembermatters just as much as what Bama did
to Georgia on Saturday or whatever.Man. And the thing about it is,
it's not a just popularity contest.It's the best team contest. And

(02:40:28):
the Horns just happened to be justas popular as Bama. So of course
they gonna be in the playoffs becauseyou want that brand to get on national
TV so we can see this dance. Because whoever the Long Horns dance with,
whether it's Washington, whether it's Michigan, or whether it's Bama, we
all gonna see that burn on soquick, Crime, manly liftit the same
poppet now, son, Look here, my boy's over there on Kirby seven

(02:40:52):
and five babies. And we toldeverybody that once we got a quarterback that
everything might start turning around different butI have to give that defense over there
a little credit too, man,because everybody been talking about Will Anderson ain't
this, and Will Anderson ain't that, And sure enough, Will Anderson went
out there and wrecked them Broncos assand sit their hands back to my hot.

(02:41:15):
We got a legitimate chance to getinto the playoffs, man, and
do something special with these next firegames. And you gotta consider all these
playoff games, and that's what we'vebeen waiting on for a round in this
city, man, to get backto being what we know we should have
been a long time ago, whichis a winning football team. And it's
fun to wake up on Monday morningsknowing that we watched the classic over there

(02:41:37):
yesterday with them with the Texas man. Unfortunately tain't got hurt, but we
got a chance to see some legitimategood football. And that's what I like.
And what I also want to sayis that the NFL got to be
careful, man. They throwing alift it in too many of these little
yellow flans out there for my liking, man, because that whole Dennis King

(02:41:58):
fumble not fumble, they progress wasstopped it up. No do y'all let
them football players get pushed forward forour ex ten yard when they're running back.
What how the hell you don't blowthe whistle in? See, these
are the kind of liftings that Ithink they're trying to do to keep my
boy from getting to their rifle spot. But they ain't gonna be aby to
stop us because CJ and Dimico overthere doing their thing. Se you know,

(02:42:18):
your boy was lit up yesterday,but it's gonna get even better than
appreciated. Larry, he is spoton. Listen, the quarterback is a
hue and the coach. You getthose two settled in, it's a hell
of a way to start and builda franchise. But I can tell you
they're not going to the playoffs unlessthey get stops, and they've been getting

(02:42:39):
them. That's with seven and fiveoffense. But having Johnny on the spot
and catching balls that are in playbecause if they drop that interception in the
end zone, guess what. Guesswhat, Russ Wilson gets another chance,
he gets four that shot. Yeah, but the deep ball, I mean
you start to think about those things. It gets back to the six to
eight, eight to ten plays agame that you execute. They don't the

(02:43:00):
tipball interception that will Anderson tipped andhe had a hell of a football game.
And he's been playing really solid footballall year long, and he took
it to another level yesterday. Isthat's a completion If he doesn't tip it,
ball's out on time catching six yardgain and a catch on a hitch
route and you're down. But whathe does is tip it, take it
off its mark, and then thecatch when the ball changes direction that quickly

(02:43:26):
to be able to react on ashort ball's not in the air long.
That was a short route to beable on a catch and throw by Russ
Wilson or you know one, twothree, put your foot in the ground
and let it go, or catchand throwing a gun and then for the
corner to make the interception or theplay, the defensive back to make the
play on a ball that was tippedand changed direction in a hurry on a

(02:43:46):
quick game, those things a lotof times end up on the ground and
give the team another chance. Soto me, and that quick change turnover.
Larry's right. The one thing achampionship caliber team has built, coach
and quarterback at least, that's wherethe buildings, the blocks start, the
concrete, the steel, the foundationof your organization, and then you start

(02:44:09):
to add the pieces, and they'readding some pieces. Now they're getting great
back in help. When healthy,they're flying around, hitting the knocking the
dog crap out of you, andthey're not being they're not intimidated or backing
off from anybody. A five gamewin streak by Denver, oh well that
ends here, and so stops likethat are gonna they're gonna need it to
get I know this sounds crazy.The defense is going to have to get

(02:44:31):
a few stops on there in theroad. It could be snowing, and
who the hell knows, that couldbe a great equalizer, all these things
that come in to play. Nowyou've got the adversity of replacing a rookie
in tank Dell and nothing. Youcan don't. You can't bitch about it
and pout about it. You're inplayoff contention. You're not five and seven,
you're seven and five. And that'swhy the narratives is shifted here because

(02:44:52):
they're not acting like a four andeight team. They're acting like a seven
and five team that they think theyshould have been two or three more wins
on there. Yeah, not anarrogant way, but in a It's okay
to have if you're preparing right,It's okay to waltz into New York with
your shoulders back saying we're a playoffteam. Good luck, we're you got
to beat us. We're not chasingyou. You got to come in and
beat us. And I felt likethat's what they said to Denver, and

(02:45:13):
every time Denver started a challenge,they were able to turn them away with
three picks and really good catches.I can't begin to how much they emphasized,
like when I played defensive backfield coachesand defense corners, how you used
to stress them out when you gotto That's why those guys are on the
jugs machine too before practice getting there'sone thing finish. The finish yesterday on
defense is a big reason why theywon because that game was getting set up

(02:45:37):
for a comeback victory for Denver.On the last drive, I was and
great job by the defense to playsixty not fifty eight thirty, And that
was huge by them yesterday. It'sgot out to the phone line seven one
three, two one two five seven. I need to go to al Al.
Good morning, Hey, what wasgoing on? Guys? Great show
eight Sean a great cow with Larrywhile ago and great take Jun because you

(02:46:03):
do it right going into the nuancein between the lines of football. And
that's a great point about that yellowflag, Son, and I tell guys
on other shows and look and listeningto the game, like that game last
night when Patrick Mahomes, people screamedthe announcers Hall of Famous talking about to
hit. He wasn't out of bounds, period. And sometimes John, you

(02:46:26):
know a lot of people feel likeyellow flags on side the game, but
yellow flags do decide to score.You know, sometime their scores would turn
on top of his head. BecauseI guarantee you that was seven points with
the Texas last night with that stripof fumble and the guy ran the enzong.
You have have to get this rightbecause Sean, we can talk about

(02:46:48):
the players. And I had tolisten to you when I called last week
about it, uh just giving yourflowers about Sloyd and ask slowline with the
Miko they're young and then Shun.You know, I had to look at
it like sometimes it flags with thesestuff on the line, whether it's a
rookie team detections young that but thatflag can determine your your motivation and your

(02:47:11):
drag with these pleas and your momentum. It takes away momentum in a game
too, no doubt, there's noquestions. Yeah, oh thank you.
Correct, listen. I do notshrink or diminish the fact that referees have
a huge impact in the game.The thing about it is what you can't
do as a as a player anda coach. Let it deter you from

(02:47:33):
what you're doing during the game.Bitch and complain all we want after at
halftime, but you're trying to keepthat out of your player's head. I
know that I've been a like DennyGreen. You so I said, I
don't care if we get to thehotel and the meals cold, the pregame,
ill, don't care if the busis late. We'll take care of
those distractions. I'll handle that.We're here to play football, business trip.
And when those things go on aboutflags, You're like, how's that

(02:47:54):
not a touchdown? The momentum therewas no stopped momentum. We see it
all the time when guys going andpushing and pushing. We let him play.
Let him play through that ball tome who was on the ground,
right, don't don't you? Andyou think so yeah, I mean for
me, But what are you gonnado? Sit there and look at your
teammates. Well, we should havewoods and should have don't do anything.
So you are out here, you'respot on with that. The flags,

(02:48:16):
dude, disrupt the game and thescore. It may not mean the game,
but the score does have an impactof the game, Bryan. As
you know, the team with themost points wins hundred percent of the time.
Bingo. So with this and thatcall on Mahomes, Yeah, it's
just so bush league. We makeit so difficult. That's why I'm always
amazed when defenses can get stops thathonestly, God, because offenses everything's set

(02:48:39):
up for them to be successful.Mahomes was still in bounds just because he's
Patrick Mahomes. His ass is notabove taking a shot in bounds because how
many times have you seen him goand then dip it all a sudden,
put his foot in the ground andgo get three or four more. His
ass was in bounds and he hithim clean and with a shoulder. Should
he knock his ass into seven rowsup into the stands. Oh well,

(02:49:00):
it's called football, do football?Ye? Damn right? That that was
a clear legal hit. Because ifhe doesn't he steps back in bounds,
that that defensive back. Guess whathe gets on Monday today. They are
toasting his ass in the meeting room. But you know what they're going to
say in green Bay now, evenif he would have got with a pennant
there, that's how you play football. That's how you play. Had you

(02:49:20):
have backed off and given it thisnah you like you when he's in the
field to play, you light hisass up. Send a loud message.
Green Bay sent a louder message lastnight than the Chiefs did, even with
the victor. But a loud messagesays I'm not saying they're better than the
Chiefs. They were last night.I've played loud, loud message and the
flags. We are completely out ofhand without letting these guys play football.

(02:49:41):
That was a legal hit and anybodyin Kansas City, he's got to complain
about it. Then, you knowwhat, then we'll put another We'll put
a red flag over the red jersey. I don't know if Mahomes is complaining
about it today. That's just goodhard football. Bless you, Thank you.
Another loud message. You see thestatement from Mike Norvell. Oh yeah,
I got it. Right here.I just read it for the first
time. We got we should hearfrom here. We read that and here

(02:50:03):
from Herb Street next too, yep, got that. Will continue to talk
college football in these playoff rankings.Next on Sports Talk seven ninety The Jean
Salisbury Show continues. It is yeahs gotta rep sit Chase Ship never Chase.

(02:50:35):
A couple of segments left here onThe Shawn Salisbury Show on Monday,
continue to talk about college football inthese playoff rankings. Final four Michigan and
Alabama, Texas and Washington. Let'sget back out to the phone line seven
one, three, two, two, five, seven nights go to Steve.
Steve, good morning. Hey,hey guys, I just want to
say a statement. I see EricDick is really a choir bill now,

(02:50:56):
But anyways, on Sean, I'mnot an expert and I don't watch every
play, but it seems like they'rekicking the you know, the offensive lineman
and defensive linemen are winning, especiallythe offensive lignment are winning in the first
half, and they're kind of losingin the second half. Is it conditioning?
Is it over exertion? Is ittalent? Tell me what that reason

(02:51:20):
is, because we should we're dominatingteams and then it's close at the end.
Can you tell me what it is? Thank you. I'll hang up
in it. Thanks Steve. Ithink that happens. He's talking about the
NFL, correct, the Texans andthe rest of the league. I mean,
you saw yesterday in the New OrleansDetroit game, come out and they
got one the best offense. WhenI come out and dominate and then all
of sudden New Orleans finds their wayback in it. It's a pretty common
pery. Anytime you're a double digitfavorite or you're a touchdown plus favorite in

(02:51:43):
the NFL, that's big. Sothey're they're all pretty closely, I mean
pretty close playing games a lot ofit. I don't think it's one thing
when adjustments happen on the other team. If they're dominating you one way,
you make an adjustment with the wayyou either scheme it or rotate position people
to get him in fresh. Yes, conditioning is a huge part of dominating

(02:52:05):
the line of scrimmage. Leverage andtechnique is a monster, and play calling
to put your team in the bestposition to succeed depending on the defense.
All those come into play, andlike you say, you could get two
dudes who bench press the team busand they're lining across from each other,
an edge rusher and a tackle andyou're one split second late getting out of

(02:52:26):
your stance and a dude run dipshis left shoulder and runs by you to
the quarterback. Does it mean youweren't prepared on the play. No,
it just means that you've got alittle late start. You were thinking boom
bom happens. So fatigue is abig part of it. Less fatigue now
than you would think. Now.The fatigue later in the season comes from
a lot of games. That's whyyou'll see a lot of coaches and teams

(02:52:46):
I've been on at this stage ofthe season, they're backing off. You're
not going full gear in any practice. Yet there's some who subscribe to we're
not taking all these pads off becauseI don't want to. Now, they
may back off a little, butwe got to practice and pads because I
do not want us to lose thatphysical nature of what we do. So
that does come into play. Butobviously earlier in the season, what is

(02:53:07):
it. It's much hotter, sothe dehydration, it's easier to stay should
I say conditioned when it's colder thanthere. But at this stage of the
season, you're probably rotating more bodiesin certain times because and even on the
think about this, you don't rotateoffensive linemen. You do rotate defensive linemen.
So you played sixty stamps and allof a sudden, a fresh body
comes in and he's a good player. You're like, and he specializes in

(02:53:30):
some it's like, Okay, hemay be a little fresh than I am
to get to the rim, right. Yeah, So that's why. But
there's a lot of things that comeinto it, and it's incumbent upon coaches
to put their players in those positions. But if you're not conditioned, you
want to talk about, the biggestway to become a coward, a mental
coward is be physically tired. That'llcause a coward in all of us.
I'm telling you, it happens allthe time. You know, it's not

(02:53:50):
a coward you not too? Yeah, yeah, triple y yeah. Mike
Norville statement that he put out,he said, I am quote quote,
I am disgusted and infuriated with thecommittee's decision today to have what was earned
on the field taken away because asmall group of people decided they knew better
than the results of the games.What is the point of playing games?

(02:54:13):
Do you tell players it is okayto quit if someone goes down? Do
you not play a senior on seniorDay for fear of injury? Where is
the motivation to schedule challenging non conferencegames. We are not only an undefeated
Power five conference champion, but wealso play two Power five non conference games
away from home, and we wonboth of them. I don't understand how

(02:54:35):
we are supposed to think this isan acceptable way to evaluate a team.
End quote. I how do youargue with what he said? I mean
you can't, but I mean theeye test and who and human nature is
going to come into you on yoursecond and third quarterback? The second one
would have been ready to play forthe national title concussion protocol, he'd have
been out of it. But otherthan you know, the eye tests that

(02:55:00):
you didn't see him dominate? Whatwhere did Mike Norvel lie? He did?
And he is one correct on theone part where you're saying read the
beginning of that statement again. Iam discussing and infuriated with the committee's decision
today to have what was earned onthe field taken away because a small group
of people decided they knew better thanthe results of the games. What is

(02:55:22):
the point of playing games? Doyou tell players that is okay to quit
if someone goes down? Not rightthere? Why why do we schedule important
games in September? Then? Whywould you if in truth it didn't matter
who you played in September, butyou got undefeated and you were going to
miss out good or bad. Whyplay the tougher team, you know?

(02:55:43):
He goes on to talk about inthat thing, we also played two Power
five non conference games away from homeand won both. You beat I mean,
who would you play LSU first firstgame of the season, and then
the North Alabama Florida said power five? Didn't he Yeah, power five non
conference? So l s U andFlorida SEC is Florida and l s U

(02:56:05):
s SEC Florida is not very good. And in this this was a camping
World kick yass away from home.Okay, makes sense? Yeah, it
was a neutral site. He hasargument. If you if you don't think
Florida State has an argument, peopledo think they know I know you do,
I don't know anybody, then thenwe're wrong. They do have an
argument. I think they do.Yeah, but of the six eye test

(02:56:30):
and best teams of those if thosetwo criteria big I tests, I test
your roster personnel, and who thebest teams are I, you can't argue.
Let's forget to break. Let's hearwhat Kirk Kirkstreet had to say about
these UH college football playoff picks.Different way. Let's get Kirk in quickly.
Kirk, when you've heard these thesediscussions, in these arguments, there's

(02:56:52):
a lot on Florida State side,from winning against the SEC to the acc
success against the SEC. Is thissimply a case where had Jordan Travis not
been hurt, or to be fair, let's say Tate Rodemaker had really put
up some numbers offensively in the Floridagame, so you had a little more
data to support that Florida State wouldbe competitive, that this would be a

(02:57:13):
no brainer decision and the Seminoles willbe in. And this all centers around
the established criteria by the committee thatthey evaluate injuries. Well, you'd have
to ask Boo that when when hehops on here in a couple of minutes.
But I think all of us,I think if Tate went out and
lit it up it'd be a lotlike what Cardi al Jones did for Ohio
State. I think people, Ithink the committee evaluated based on what they
saw, and by the way,what Florida State did at the Swamp was

(02:57:37):
impressive. I called that game thatwas a tough environment. I don't care
what Florida's record was. That gamewas impressive for them to be able to
get out of that game with abackup quarterback. But when you're looking at
what they did the last two gamesand you're evaluating they went all the way
down to the third guy, afreshman. This is nothing against Mike Norbal.
I think we all are proud andso happy to see that Florida State
ran back from where it was three, four or five years ago so to

(02:58:00):
where it is now. It hassustainability and it's going to be around with
Mike, and they're going to doa great job. To me, if
you took JJ McCarthy off of Michigan, we'd be saying the same thing right
now about Michigan. If you tookMichael Pennox off of Washington the last two
games and they were struggling with abackup quarterback, we wouldn't be looking at
the totality of Washington season. We'dbe looking at the last two games.

(02:58:22):
You have to look at the lastcouple games without the heart and soul.
This guy is the face of thisresurgence of Florida State, Jordan Travis,
and to take him out is justas big as any player in the country
that you would take off that roster. So to me, it's a reflection
of what he meant to that team, specifically in these last two weeks,
giving Tate and giving brought the backup, the third string guy an opportunity.

(02:58:46):
And it's just reality. You're comparingthem Alabama to Florida State. You got
to give Alabama the nod, eventhough they had a close game against Auburn
and a rivalry game. They beatGeorgia on a neutral site and Georgia was
the team and Alabama just beat them. You cannot take Alabama out of this.
They have to be in. AndI think the committee did a great
job. Yeah, I think you'rereal quick. He's there's nothing there I

(02:59:09):
disagree with, and he's right.Imagine if you took Quinn Yours out for
three for two weeks and then goingin he wasn't going to play in the
final four. No disrespect arch Manningor they they're not the same team.
They're not. They're just not.You saw it when tennix, they don't.
Matter of fact, they don't getout of the Pac twelve if Pennic's
doesn't played last couple weeks. Takeboth, I mean, take J.

(02:59:31):
J. McCarthy off. You don'teven know who the backup is in Michigan.
I'm not saying you, most peopledon't, right, And then you
talk about hell if you take milRow now as opposed earlier off Alabama's roster,
they ain't beaten Georgia. So itgoes in the eye test matters at
the end, and the roster matters. This is not the same team that
went thirteen and oh eleven of themwithout their starting I mean eleven of them

(02:59:52):
with their starting quarterback. To now, who's to say what would have happened
if viewers didn't play the last threegames. Who's to say? Same thing
with you know, with Milroe's legs, they're not getting out of Auburn without
Jaylen Milroe. So we're not inhaving this conversation. So with that position,
you have to look at it.And when you're the heart and soul
of the team and you and he'sgone. It's a bummer for Florida State,

(03:00:13):
but it's the reality. Let's lookat the bowl schedule to end the
show. Next on sports Stock seventy, let the celebration start war Sean Salisbury.
It is Sewn Salisbury show. Canyou name this artist? And I

(03:00:41):
am because it sounds like Triple Ewould sound if he was singing this song.
This boy got that boy? Yeah, I got it? Maybe that
boy? I don't know. Uh, it's is it a little? It
is a little that's this is gonnabe Lil John little thug? No young
thug? Is there a little thugg? Or young? Is there a little?

(03:01:05):
Little little lot of it is alittle? It's a little what's little?
Am I missing? Come on?The greatest one of all time?
Who mixing? I say, bornin New Orleans? Who is it?
Lil Wayne? Oh? There yougo? Why did I think when I
said a Little John, I wassaying Lil Wayne. Little John's the one
that was on with Trump and hisshow? Right, wasn't he on?

(03:01:30):
What's the one that Trump's show usedto be on? Because Little John was
on with Gary Busey. What's thatthing called apprentice. That was that was
Little John was on that right?Yeah? Oh yeah, Lil Wayne's isn't
he the number one little of alltimes? You said? I think he
probably is? He is? Yes, he's a packer fan. Yes,
Oh is he nice? Yes?I like to just call him Little Wayne.

(03:01:54):
Dude, if you go little oris it like it's not really described
and call him little is it?Uh? He's he is? I came
up with one. I called him. I added a little at a young
yeah, turned the guy into alittle thug. Do we have one of
the Do we have a little thugout there at all? Probably? We
got a young one. Do wehave a little one? I don't think
so. Yeah, to be determined, Like I said, we got lil

(03:02:16):
so, we got bigs. Dowe have a medium medium Yeah? Where
a guy says, what's your nameon medium John, I'm medium thug.
I'm old thug instead of young dog. What he's fifty sixty seventy? What
do we call it aging thug?Aging thug? Yes? Yeah, h
this little us all time actually isprobably probably is one of his best What

(03:02:41):
what do you think? I wasjoking? He came out one of the
best albums of all time. No, I know, I know you're up
to date. Medium thug, Imean medium Wayne, not that there's nothing
medium about that though, No,there's real quick. John Morosi of MLB
Network, reporting on the show halTani Sweepstakes. Guess who is still engaged

(03:03:05):
in talks with Sho hal Tani Dodgers. They are still involved? Huh,
Mets or Yankees. I think both. I think both are out, actually
okay out. Both are out redSox out. Rangers were supposed to be
out. They're out. Mariners.I don't know if they're they just offloaded
Kellen, that's right, but thatdoesn't he's no. Angels are still in

(03:03:30):
the mix. They are Angels Dodgers. There's one more ye Angels. Do
don't say the Rangers. They areread that whole I miss, I already
read Angels, Dodgers, Giants.Giants are still in the mix. There's
one other team that really hasn't beentalked about a lot. And this is
why this is, this is whyit's pretty uh interesting. And L East

(03:03:52):
oh Philly. No oh, Itake that, you said Al East and
L East Oh that's the Atlanta Braves. Yes, yeah, the Atlanta Braves
are still in it talked about itthe grect Yeah. Is he really going
to go back and play for theAngels or the Dodgers? Just gonna say
here's half a billion? You can'tprobably the Dodger. I mean you're here.
Yeah. Can you imagine the OrangeCounty You don't even have to drive,

(03:04:16):
you live in Orange County. Traingoes in, you have to be
driving, it's easy. He goesto the Blue Jays in Toronto. I
can imagine it the rest of theAmerican League. He's saying, a snow
bunnies up there. It's a greatcity, expensive as hell, but a
great city, is it? Yes, never been in Canada. Phenomenal city.
Toronto's beautiful, expensive, beautiful,A lot to do. Yeah,

(03:04:39):
Toronto's great town. Do you thinkshow pulls? I don't. I think
he could. I think he's probablypretty subtle pull guy. But he's tall.
You know, like, do youthink just because you're tall you pull
odds? Are he seems to bewe could pull far more than you guys
can. This tall guys can Yeah, right, there's no question, just
ask us all right, No,but I would say, oh, Tani

(03:05:01):
Major could pull. Oh yeah,he seems like a guy who's a really
really nice guy. Yeah, anotherthing you could still pull and be a
nice guy. I don't know,man, nice guy's finished last for the
most part, so you gotta bea butt head to pull. Oh Tani
seems like sneaky pull guy. Nobodyknows great, but if he wants to,

(03:05:22):
if if his buddies are sitting there, if he's nice a guy,
Yeah, he's he's a guy thatsits there that if he really well when
he walks into a restaurant, I'msure everybodys saying that's tawny. Everybody's taking
notice. He doesn't seem like theguy who tells his buddy to go over
and hand pick that name bringer overno more respect than what about him and
his translator, just just pulling everythingthat moves. They probably could, They

(03:05:43):
probably do, But I would saythat he's he seems like a I never
hear about his love life. Heseems like a If he is pulling,
it's done on his terms and thenon the just low key in it.
He doesn't seem like going to abar, get sloppy, drunk and start
pulling people. I don't think thatseems like he was a total well put
together. When he drinks, Iwould say that I don't even probably not,
probably not to be able to do. I don't know. Maybe he

(03:06:05):
drinks a little bit. But thetruth is he seems like such an upstanding
good dude. Yeah, red wine, probably we're like a white wine spritzer.
No, he's probably a tequila beerguy, tough as it all gets.
And that's right, why he couldHe's just he's like just knocking down
shots at tequila, and he's justthe da. He seems to me nowhere,
you know, he does't speak alot of English. Next thing,

(03:06:26):
you know, he's like, what'sup, bitch? You know, he
seems to me, I don't thinkhe addresses women like that, just a
hunch. He seems to me tobe the guy that the dads want the
son, the sons to be likeand want to marry their daughter. And
he seems like the type of guythe moms love and say, oh,
he's such a good guy. Idon't know what's not to like about the
guy. Well, but then again, I don't know what's private. That's

(03:06:46):
a good thing. We don't knowwhat his private life's like, so I'm
assuming it's pretty stand up. Couldyou imagine him with the braves. Did
you say he goes up and says, what's up, bitch? You know
you said, just what happened toWhat if he does that? It takes
a shots at the time. Actuallymight actually be bored, just one because
he doesn't feel like a what's upbitch type guy. Okay, it's like,
but if he goes to Atlanta,the world doesn't want to see that.

(03:07:09):
Okay, the world. I don'twant to see him go to Atlanta
packed with honeys. Oh yeah,they probably want to see him there,
but I'm sure that the baseball world, yeah, doesn't want to. You
know, hey, we don't haveany players on our lineup. Well the
two m vps are on the sameteam now from the previous season. Yeah,
no, that's crazy. I meanI can, but I don't think
we want to see that. No, we don't know, we don't.
That's gonna do for the Shawn SalisburyShow. He is Seawan Salisbury our producer

(03:07:31):
Triple E Emmanuel Elmore on Brian,Lolma, thank you for listening. We're
back tomorrow morning at six a m. I have a great day. Yeah,
thanks many too. I'd it outto the same Jutch tournament. Good
stuff today, Tripley next step wasstand Northfleet. Chris Cordy coming up next
on Sports Talk seven Honey
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