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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saulsbury.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury, The usc.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Truth, longtime friend, Sewn Salisbury.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Brian Lima, go Lobos. This is the Sewn Salsbury Show.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Sean Salisbury, Brian Lilma, Manuel Elmore. Rockets fall to the
Grizzlies last night. Texans, continuing their search for an offensive coordinator,
alprin Shoon makes the All Star Team in the NBA.
Seawan Tripley. Good morning, what's happening Friday? Good morning, morning,
(00:42):
good morning. We should open up every Friday with that cut.
It's Friday night. You know the song, It's Friday Night
from the Uh. Isn't there this the one with a
Isn't there a song that with Cube and the group
and Friday?
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Isn't that?
Speaker 6 (00:57):
Oh? Yeah, yeah yeah, letting you know it's frid I
woke up this morning feeling like the lucky man. You know,
I know it's country. You know who sings that.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
I know, I'm lucky.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
Montgomery, Montgomery, gentry, gentry, thank you, and good night. I
woke up and then I hear it on the I
hear it on the radio driving in. I woke up
this morning feeling like a lucky man, like someday at
some point today we have to play just to just
to bring his perspective of life's good.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Man, you want to do an all requests Friday, is
what you're saying. Why wouldn't we trip you down with that?
I know it's usually funky Friday. Might be all requests Friday.
He might be down with opp too. Yeah you know
me know me?
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Yeah? Who's who sings that? Opp?
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (01:45):
End?
Speaker 5 (01:45):
By end? Is it naughty nature? I'm an idiot.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
See yeah, that's got some energy. We have to play
that too, opp Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Are you down with it?
Speaker 8 (01:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
With opp? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (01:59):
Man?
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Oh and another one we gotta play today is uh
whoop there it is?
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I gotta get that going back
there you go?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
That's uh who's that? By tag Team? Yeah? Yeah, let's
get a crunk.
Speaker 9 (02:13):
In this bitch.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
This ain't this ain't the Pine on a Friday night, dude.
For spring formal season. In season, we didn't have any
formals man about yeah, in season should have been partying, man. Yeah,
an old school like you know, stay up till five
in the morning, then go rake.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
You know what I'm saying, go four for four? You
feel me, dog, I feel you I feel you. Hey,
Rockets had a little primetime game last night. Kevin Harlan
on the call on t n T. Rockets got the
final shot. They lost one twenty one nineteen. Fred van
Vliet took the last shot.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, you're gonna lose some I'd rather somebody else take
that final shot. Bleet's kitchen. Dude, you on one one
guy to do? You roll up all Fan Van Vliet,
It's okay, it happens. K g veteran man. All right,
he's been in, you've been in. You got a ring
on that finger he does, so, you know Van Vliet,
how do you know? He wasn't gonna knock and they
got it somebody he didn't know you no, I know.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
But the only shots you missed the ones you don't take,
the shots you don't take.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
There you go. Is that Gretzky or Jordan? Which one
of it? That's?
Speaker 6 (03:23):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I don't I think I've seen both get credit. Oh
I think it might.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Actually I think it's Gretzky is the great one. The
shots you don't take. Here we go, let's check it out.
Who was the first Jordan or Gretzky one of the two, uh,
the three first ever? Yet's uh?
Speaker 10 (03:40):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Let's se Yeah, Wayne Gretzky, ye simply known as the
great One.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Or it could be Wolfgang Miter. It could be good
guy to Wolfgang.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
This is often credited to Wayne Gretzky. Uh, but there's
also reports that someone else said it prior to Wayne Gretzky,
and it was wolf Gang Miter.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
You know that?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Hell that is Wolfgang? Who do you think that is?
Speaker 11 (04:04):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (04:04):
I studied him on tape? You did? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
A great guy who is Wolfgang? Tremendous soccer player. He's
a retired professor of German folklore.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
Okay, close, bro close, if you did a soccer player
to the German folklore? Who who knows? But what right
when you hit the name Wolfgang as German? And I'll
tell you who loves Germans? I mean who Germans love?
Who is not just Wolfgang? Oh it's David the damn rights,
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damn rights. So you know, Gretzky, Wolfgang? Who's counting?
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Man, Wolfgang? More shots? Who shot more shots? Did the
teacher of philosophy? He might have shot a shot with
some zoids you know in class, might have probably not?
Or yeah, I think that he probably had more shots
on Wolfgang.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Man, he's got a Listen to this guy. You're ready
to go through his resume.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
He's got degree from all of Vet College, University of Michigan,
and Michigan State.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
So you're saying that he's brilliant teach.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
He teached.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
He taught at the University of Vermont for fifty years. Wow,
fifty burger fifty burger on him.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Yeah, Man, Wolfgang's Wolfgang's a difference maker. Could be sounds
pretty smart. I'm gonna go with Wayne Gretzky though, going
with Wayne. Yeah, yeah, per I didn't have on my
Bengal card this morning in the first five minutes. Yeah,
that we were going to be talking about Professor Wolfgang Miter.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
We got to put some respect on his name though
he is professor Miner. Yeah, yeah, many problem makes us great.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Man.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
You know, we don't have to hit the hard hitting.
What do you want to talk about that is hard hitting?
You want to talk about the nineteenth interview for the
Texans offensive coordinator. You want to you want to save
that for the final three hours.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Here's here's what usually comes out of it. Hey interviewed
well like him, great philosophy. I've been doing it a while.
We're evaluating the situation. Great to have him here. He's done
some really good things with the RAMS or man, he's
done some really good things here in the building. Uh,
he's been calling place forever. You know, rarely do you
have somebody come out of there and say, man, crappy, right,
(06:10):
that interview sucked. Yeah, when you know it's like a doctor.
Has a doctor ever had an unsuccessful knee Injuryay, that's
my favorite.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Hey, And here's what it is.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
It's well, hey, he suffered an ACL surgery, was successful,
recovery should be on time, and uh we say recovery
times between eight and seven, eight and eight and here's
my favorite, eight and twenty months. Yeah yeah, right, that's
my favorite. Like, so he's down about probably give him
(06:43):
ten to twenty four, yeah exactly, which means, right, that's
my favor they cover. Hey, well listen, you know, I
don't know, maybe ten months and more likely between ten
and twenty. Yeah, you give her take a three after
run right, right, So there you go. You know, they
never had a never had a guy come out and say,
(07:04):
you know what, I went in there, that's surgery wasn't
very good man. I didn't quite tie the ligabits together
the way that I needed to. Hopefully he won't blow
it out again, because then it'll be a twenty four
to seventy four month recovery and.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
We'll be okay. You want to hear the new Duvaul. Oh?
Speaker 6 (07:21):
No, is somebody imitating here we go? That wasn't true.
That's that's him, that's lean I'm doing what.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
They asked him to redo it yesterday one of the
local media affiliates over and Jacksonvill ask him to redo
it again, Here we go, Here we Go?
Speaker 6 (07:46):
Is he trying to be a lifelong meme? Yeah, it's
I mean, he had to know. People were like, dude,
don't do that. Yeah, and then he came back and
he doubles down on it so we can make fun
of him even more.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
They asked him to read.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
They said, hey, I you've been working on the new
Duvall and he said yeah, and then they said can
you get the guy said can you do it for us?
Speaker 5 (08:07):
And that's him doing it. I would have said no.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
My first answer, are you guys mocking me? I would
have been like, no, I'm not doing it again. I'm
working on it. Yeah, you'll hear it during the season. No,
you hearing it Ota, So I'd say, we're crap cannon,
that's saying and we're here to play Jacksonville v.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Jaguar football.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
We're getting it. If anything you had from the pay,
we're not doing that here, I would have said, shout out.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Duval County left it at that Tripley played like the
last actually just played again. But let it roll to
where he says, here we god, No, it's at the end.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
O A, here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
That's great, Come on.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Sweet Lee, Liam, because any I just I just need
to know really when you really get, when you really
break it down. Did Liam Cohen need to give me
that saying no? Isn't there more fans than just Duval County?
Speaker 5 (09:08):
I think so?
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Yeah, so we're we're limiting our reach and yeah, uh oh, well,
just don't come in here and throw a party on
this defense.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
There's no chance you want to start doing it. So like, well, County,
are you in? You're on Harris are you no? I'm
in Fort Ben, Fort fo Ben. Here we go, there
you go. No, I don't try it. I could see
the wheels turning.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
No, can you imagine, Hey, coach Shula, did you do
that for us? MH coach Reid? Well, Andy Reid on
his commercial commercial classic Yeah fumbles.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Yeah, it's fubble. I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
It's annoying. It is how many times they play it.
But you know what's so weird. I can never be
mad at Andy Reid though, oh yeah, I mean it
could never.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
I don't know why. I just can't be mad at it.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Are you curious? Not curious? You interested in the Super
Bowl commercials this year? I'm always interested when they go.
I've been disappointed in some.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
Yeah, you know, I think about back to uh but
I loved the Budweiser commercial and it had the dog
was out by itself, Yeah, a little puppy, yes, yeah,
it got out, yeah, and was at night and going
around and all of a sudden it we got a
little scary because the wolf's are it was either wolfs
or Kylie or whatever it was, I can't remember, were
(10:25):
and came to scare the dog. And all of a sudden,
four or five big Clydesdals came running, yeah, and got
behind were there and led him into the house and
the dad's like yeah, and just budwivesers.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
I don't know why. I mean, the Clydesdale commercials will
move you man, like at Christmas time, they'll do.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
They're emotional men, So yeah, there's good. There'll be some
funny ones, there'll be some duds. And they spend a
lot of money. What is going to be six seven
million bucks for thirty seconds or something else? Oh wait,
I think we're close to ten million bucks for sixty
seconds now.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
And I wish I got paid for thirty second.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
And then you see some are pumping out like the
automobile dealerships. Yeah, no, kidd, wouldn't it be great? Cut
it in force to fifteen? Wouldn't But you know what
I'm saying, is it like the beer commercials of the automobile.
Think about some of the money they spend. They have
marketing dollars. They have to spend it right, right or yeah?
But yeah, I do look forward to him because I'm
waiting to see if there's one you know what one
(11:16):
moves me?
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Is there a new product with it? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (11:18):
I am, And then I'm anxious to see what company
is going to throw some big money in that.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
We don't talk enough about that says, we're going to exceed.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
We're going all in on the Super Bowl to get
some love nationally this year.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
So yeah, I do like I do.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Yeah, I get I get a I get a kick
out of some of them.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I pay attention to him.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Yeah, what was the It was earlier this or it
was in the fall or winter obviously we're still in winter.
Right right before the holidays. It was Apple. They put
out their new commercial about the air pods, and it's
like the dad that that was deaf and he couldn't
hear his daughter sing, and then and then he puts
the air pods in it allows him to sing.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
Moving commercial you want to talk about move throw And
then I see those commercials that did a real life.
Sometimes times they'll come on where you'll see a video
where the child can't hear, and then they've put special
special like hearing aids, and all of a sudden they
get to hear their dad or mom talked the first time.
Or I saw one the other day they had this
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kid couldn't have been two, and they fit in for
glasses and he puts classes on and his eyes get
big like oh I can see, and I'm like, now
that is the essence of gift giving and what what
it's supposed to be like. So yeah, I look forward
to the you know, the movie and then they those
commercials movie and that one with the Clydes Dales and
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the ones you're talking about, the one at Christmas time
was was well done? Those those ad agencies and those
ad people who put them together. Yeah, and you said, now,
I know, you know, you think about sitting around those
conference rooms and you put together and you present it
to all the other people that are there saying I
want to roll this out, and all of a sudden
you're like, this is a gold mine. Yeah, you know,
the boss says, yes, that's the one we're going. This
is going to crush it. And then you see your
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commercials like and then they give you a pay raise
to make you the president of the marketing department or
whatever or the advertised department. But I always wonder what
goes into the thought process to somebody probably sitting around
staring at the ceiling at night like we all do,
and bam, I got one, you know, and then to
put it together.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
There's some really.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
Clever ad ad agencies, but clever advertising people out there.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Thirty second commercial this year.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
I must say seven to eight mally seven bucks seven
even and ten to twelve probably for a sixty second er.
And then somebody like four whoever's doing it, you know
the car dealership, but you know beer Go Daddy usually
has a commercial too. You know there's but somebody you
know they're pouring in if they do five of them dudents,
they're doing sixty seconders. You're dropping forty fifty million bucks
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on a SAT on a Super Bowl Sunday. But they
wouldn't do it, even those with brand awareness like Coca
Cola there, you know they people know the brand, right,
but even with brand or Budweiser, people know the brand,
you know, the Apple. But they figured that fifty million
dollars that they're gonna make that their ROI on their advertising,
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or they wouldn't do it. So you know, when they're
spending it, you're like, are they really spend that much money?
And then you come back and say, hey man, what
was your years successful year in twenty twenty five? Oh,
we were eighty percent over our goal. Okay, keep spending
money on advertising.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yeah, keep spending that ten mil that's exactly on Super
Bowl Sunday.
Speaker 8 (14:21):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
All right, continue to talk about the NFL. You're Houston, Texans.
They've requested an interview with a name that you might
not know. Who is it that's next?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Let the celebration start, war Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
seven ninety.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Well, they concluded, you know, they concluded two interviews yesterday,
Nick Kyley and Bill Laser, and then they also interviewed
Vikings assistant offensive coordinator, assistant QB coach Grant Yadinsky.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
No idea who that is?
Speaker 12 (15:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Me, I've never I'll.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Tell you what though, a long line of I don't
know who that is with that name, Grant Yodinsky, Grant
Yudinsky's check it out? Tell the TC.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Is he from the famous Dnsky? Is that a you mean? Yeah?
Like the West Coast? Yeah, the oh, the West Coast,
the flying will lend us? You know who the hell
is this guy? I don't know? Check him out? Do
you need to know his name for him to be good?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yes, he went to Century, Yes, he went to Davidson,
and then he went to Towson undrafted in twenty nineteen.
He was a grad assistant at Baylor, UH and then
he got into the NFL and twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Been there ever since. Coaching assistant Towason States in Maryland. Yeah,
the teammate from there.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Yeah, man, he went to Central Bucks, West Bucks.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
What do what side?
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Yah? You think that's what they said up there? Yeah?
I think, yeah, Hey, where do you go? I go
to the west side. No, I don't think he said that. No,
why not?
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Probably more like a west side. No, I would I
would think he said that one to the west man. No,
he didn't say. Man, you're the wrong part of the
country for that. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, good Yeah, good point. Yeah,
they're up in the northeast.
Speaker 10 (16:17):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Literally, been in the NFL since twenty twenty coaching assistant
with the Panthers, Assistant to the head coach Slash special
projects for the Vikings in twenty twenty two. Then he
became the assistant quarterbacks coach in twenty twenty three, and
then now currently assistant offensive coordinator, assistant quarterbacks coach.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Oh. I don't know enough about it.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
I don't know enough about him to tell you anything
about his philosophy or what he does. I would imagine
he's got the similar philosophy as Kevin O'Connell, which is
the McVeigh and Shanahan thoughts. But if he's on there,
you know, like minded. But I don't know anything about
his Obviously he's not called plays.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Before, no at the NFL level. So I'll tell you
what though, smart ass student he was cos I d
a academic first team All American. He had a GPA
of three point nine four for his undergrad and then
he had a four point h getting his masters.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Know, the failing whatever dork.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
He played defensive end at Towson, and this is something
you don't hear very often anymore ever, coaching quarterbacks defensive
end at Towson, and he had to sit out the
twenty sixteen season due to transfer rules.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Now the transfer rules would say you haven't transferred enough
transfer more go go to four or five schools.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
One's not enough transfer. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Back then it was if you transfer, you got to
sit out all the transf rules. Now it's uh, oh no, dude,
you want to transferred once? Oh you got that's not
enough for more go use them? Oh use him, just
leave for the hell of it. Go get Yeah, exactly.
I don't know anything about the guy. Yeah, so he
was a defensive end, call you know, and now he's
working with quarterbacks. So I'm leaving here to go work
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with the nose tackle you are and in Baltimore, is
uh the interior defensive line coast?
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Oh cool?
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Is uh?
Speaker 13 (18:08):
Is?
Speaker 5 (18:08):
What was the big fat guy Vince Wolfork?
Speaker 8 (18:11):
Then?
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Have you seen him? By the way, No, it's a
big dude. He's lost so much weight. He was great
last time I saw him.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
I was he was losing. I thought you about till
he beefed up again.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
No, he's like forty fifty.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
You remember how C. C. Sabathi thick, big and thick,
and how he got jacked up. That's kind of what
Vince Vince Wolfork is on that path.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Oh good for him. Yeah, he looks good.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Big, good, healthier, longer man move I bet, I bet
it's much easier to move around and enjoy your life.
Speaker 11 (18:35):
Man.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Good on Vince. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Grant Yudinsky, Yeah, of the famous who uh the West coast,
West coast. Yeah, even though you know he's from the
East coast. Yeah, he trained, he became a West coast Yedinsky.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Yeah, he was like original his the the uh John
you didn't Virginior, Yeah he was, he was.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
He made it to Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
He was originally one of the forty nine ers, not
the football team, like the the gold Digging Battlers. Yeah,
the Settlers way back. Yeah yeah, yeah, so he made
they made the cross cross country.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
From the He's an East Coast guy, but he's part
of the West Coast.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
That's weird, right, that is weird. And I had him.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
I had him as as part of the famous with
but say similar, so I meant coast the famous West Coast. Yeah, yeah,
but we recruited one from the East coast. It's like
being on the Dallas North toll Way going south south, right, yeah,
instead of just being on the Dallas Tollway. On the
Dallas North Tollway going south south can get confusing.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
They can. Yeah, why interview this guy? Honestly?
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Well, from your vantage point, you're like, I don't know him?
Why I interview him? No, not that I don't know him, no,
bok from their vantage point, what if all of a sudden,
you said, Kevin o'connacost said, this guy's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
He is brilliant.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
He will be an offensive coordinator soon and you better
get him all the getting's good. And what what if
all of a sudden you don't need to knowing. Look
what it Look what happened. I mean, I don't know
if you're going to give him the credit for it,
but Darnold had a great year. Other than the last
two games, offense got better. He's been around O'Connell and
some good coaches. Maybe it just got now. I don't
know if they're gonna hire him, But there every now
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and again there's that one guy say, oh, well, let
me ask you this, who was Ben Johnson three years ago?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Well I can, I mean, fair point, but let me
go back and look, and this is where I'm gonna.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Four years ago. I mean to the point.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
My point is is that you you might find a
hitting gym. That's why you say, why would they interview him?
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Because he made Like I said, don't you regardless of
the outside.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Well, if I get a good.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Recommendation and then from somebody and I'm the I'm interviewed,
I'm the head coach interviewing a coordinator and he walks
in and he sets you. I mean, did you know
Joe Brady before? I'm not saying NUE just from LSU,
but as an assaist, he wasn't. Really he would when
Joe Brady was hired at LSU. Everybody saying who's assistant? Right,
His assistant in New Orleans kind of helped out and
by the end of the year you're like, ooh, this
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so maybe he's one of those This is fast risers.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
This is my I'm not defense, but this is where
I look at it. Ben Johnson has been coaching since
twenty eleven. Yodinsky's been coaching since twenty twenty. I'm just
talking experience wise, So yeah, now, and it can't hurt
to interview. Everybody cast a wide net.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
You never know where to find the guy, right, I
get it.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
But just looking at this, this guy, Yudinsky, it's four
years and you think he needs more experience. I think
he just needs more experience. And again I agree that
Kevin O'Connell could be like, hey man, what can it
hurt to bring him in for an interview, But then
it's like a little more sense of urgency. Let's bring
in some more experienced guys. But look, they're going to
do their due diligence regardless. I just look at like,
(21:43):
like I said, Ben Johnson literally been coaching since twenty
eleven when he was at Boston College and at the.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Point I was not coaching.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
I'm just talking about the you know, not knowing who
he was until he really hit the ground running into
tread right.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
As far as like a household name where it's the
last two years where he's become a high commodity. Now,
like I said, I don't know anything about the guy. Yeah,
but if he's an assistant like that with very minimal experience,
it may be at the point where somebody said, might
want to try this while getting's good, right, I mean
just because he's he's but still if you haven't called plays,
you haven't called plays, and there's a learning curve that
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goes with it, so and we lose.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
I don't know. The Texans just had that with body
slow he'd never call place.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Right, So I don't know if there would go Like
I always say, if you went with an inexperienced guy
the first time, my guess is you'll go with an
experienced guy the second time.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
It's because you.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Already had the guy who had never called plays and
had some success doing it here but obviously wasn't pleasing
enough in the second year for Damika Rance. I don't know,
or maybe there's a relationship in the building. Who knows
you you never know point there too. And for me,
like I've always told, I don't care if you're twenty
five or seventy five.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
If you can't coach, you can coach.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
And some guys just get you know, our coaches, deep
down coaches that we don't know enough about because they've
never really pushed the envelope.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
And maybe this.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Is one of those Zach Taylor type guys that man,
oh yeah, okay, it goes play.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
But I've never heard of it. I've never even heard
of him.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
And I go on in Minnesota every single week and
at no time during the season on a radio show
has his name ever been brought up. Yeah, at no time.
So but listen, if you're interviewing, somebody recommended.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Him, Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 12 (23:20):
So.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
All right, there's also a local candidate that's going to
be brought in for an interview. This is a name
you might not know as well. Who is it that's next?
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Speaker 1 (24:02):
I had out there, but the Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
You guys want to give a I don't know about
an hour breakdown of the Pro Bowl this weekend.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
You know how I haven't seen a Pro Bowl, dude.
All right, so we'll go from seven thirty eight thirty
on that fifteen eighteen years I got, I got everything
we need. I think I'll pass.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
They had the uh and of the Skills challenge like
that was last night.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Yeah, okay, they did dodgeball last night.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
So we're playing pe now, yeah, that's it essentially yes
on TV now, yes, okay.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Yeah, yeah with those the red ball, the throat yeah,
oh yeah yeah, they did that.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
I can't I can't even tell you what the skills
are at that contest, because I don't care they did this.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Once I left Hawaii, it was it was, Yeah, it's
a joke leaving Hawaii. That's a damn shame you left Hawaii.
Even though it was again the Hawaiian folks treated him great.
I covered that a bunch of times. Yeah, dude, you
want to talk about everybody looking forward to that every week?
I mean every year, Oh, Super bowls over, hop on
a plane and you go spend a week, and some
you'd stay an extra week and go to like a
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different island, but you're you're in Hawaii for a week,
and we do we'd do an NFL live or a
couple of shows, and that was it on the with
the with a set sitting in the sand, and it's
like that. That's and and then so to the rest
of the days in the sun, golf and eat good food,
fresh food, drinking a coal one. It was frigging off
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the hook. That was the That was the trip. And
then they moved it from there. If you're gonna the
Pro Bowl hadn't been better since everything they're doing now
you could do in Hawaii. I don't understand. Yeah, keep
it in Hawaii every year.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Why can't we just go back to keep it in
Hawaii the like I said, the community over there and
the culture was awesome, and they treated the players great,
and go play a games. Some starters don't want to play,
but they're not really playing now either, so what's the difference,
I mean, and the players you'll get more plays. I
want to take a trip to Hawaii than playing a
flag football game in Orlando. I think maybe I'm crazy,
(26:05):
but it just for me the or you know, And
it's amazing how the eighth altern it will get in
and on his resume you.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Can say I made the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
Yeah, you're like the tenth quarterback, right, and five guys
turn it down, two ones hurt, the other ones playing
in the at and T Pebble Beach Pro Am and
uh so the then three make the Pro Bowl and
there are three guys that would never end on your
resume because I went.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
To four Pro Bowls.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Yeah that was the eighth alternate, but it moved up
to the number one, and you get all your bonuses
and the rest of it.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
It's fine. I know you want to be at the
Fellaws bafter a while.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
It's like, come on, now, you know who made the
Pro Bowl this year as like the ninth alternate Drake
May he threw for like barely twenty five hundred yards.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
I think he's going to be a good player.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
I think he didn't make the Pro Bowl, right, he
was not a pro bowler, Sean. He was literally like
the sixth alternate and he's not a pro bowler. Announced
it the once you're saying.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Thirty two, like you got the three guys and then
name he named twenty nine alternates because you be into
twenty seventy.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
He's still a pro bowler. Because fifteen guys turn it down.
Might as well let Jameis Winston be a pro bowler
that right.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Yeah, it's becoming. I mean there may be some that
like watching that. I've got zero interest in it.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Tripley. Did you catch any of it last night?
Speaker 12 (27:11):
No?
Speaker 8 (27:11):
I did.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
I was watching this rocking mouth. Okay, so they have this.
They had the wire like the catching contest. Derek Sting
Junior participated in it, and I'm watching the high I
just watched the highlights of Justin Jefferson doing it. They
had these wide receivers and secondary guys catching balls off
of the machine one handed right.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
With with.
Speaker 14 (27:30):
Some clips of them. They then they put the mask
on globs and they have big mascot gloves that they had
these dudes catching with. You know what I want to
like freaking look at this. You know what I want
them to do this?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Look at that literally mascot gloves. Can you see it?
Speaker 8 (27:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (27:48):
I see him.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Looks like the gloves like Mickey Mouse wears on the
Disney Show.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Looks like the big looks like the big. What's the
cheap meal you could make back in the day, not rice,
a Ronny hamburger helper. You know that mascot guy on
it right, That's that's on the that's on the box,
isn't it. I can say you now, you know what
I want. I want you to fire the ball to
these guys. Glove I don't know if they do. Glove free, yeah,
(28:13):
glove free, yeah go. Let's go play with just your hands.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
Let's fire at them where they're catching the football with
just ands, no gloves alive, like old school football.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Let's do that. Yeah, no offense.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
I'm past the point of when a ball is three
feet away from you and it magnetizes to your glove
and we call it the We're getting the greatest catch
ever four times a year, five times year with a
one handed over. Now they're impressive the way guys can
torqu their body and move their biden and make it catch.
But this ain't Raymond Berry catching it with one hand
and from Johnny United for a different ball game.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Yeah, maybe, Like, I don't know why you wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Wear gloves as a wide receiver. Now, huh, even if
you don't like gloves, you'll catch more balls because they
stick to it.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Yeah maybe maybe uh put a little spider tack on
the glove. Was like for Mark Andrews or Dalton Kincaid.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
You know I'm going to tell you right now.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
Well Kincaid's problem was he tried to completely body it
and you know, got into his body, couldn't control it
and then it.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Hit him in the forearm, I know. And Mark Andrews
it hit him in the hands. He'll never drop that.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Now, the ball could have been thrown a little out
in front, but it hit him in both hands and
his show you gotta catch it. And then the sad
thing about is that guy doesn't fumble, and he laid
one down the series before. He'll never forget that because
this literally felt like Baltimore's year. Yeah, and here we
are again. Here we are again. Two dudes that keep
winning m vps or keep sitting on the doorst and
can't get through Mahomes, Jackson and Allen, Allen and Jackson.
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It's crazy, how how that, how good they play and
they just can't get over them. Well, they're great players.
They're playing in the air that you It's like when
you played against the Braces, like, oh man, I could
have won three more, but I never got a chance.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
And you know what's even even funnier or not on
your boat when you think about this whole Patrick Mahomes
and Tom Brady comparison, Eli Manning kryptonite for Tom Brady.
Yeah right, beat him twice. People forget that Tom Brady
beat Mahomes twice. And then Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow is
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the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes kryptonite, except Joe Burrow just
hasn't won a Super Bowl yet.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
This is going through this.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Had Cincinnati made the playoffs and been in the AFC
Championship game, that's not who Kansas City wanted to help.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
That's why Kansas City tanked that last game. They knew,
damn well they did that. Who would want to see
you know, did you see the year Tree Hendrickson had
this year?
Speaker 6 (30:42):
He led off the charts. He is unbelievable. Joe Burrow
and he's not mentioned as the Defensive Player of the Year.
It's insane to look at his numbers. I think in
the last four years, maybe five years, he's had seventy eight.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
So guy as a monster.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
He's got his pass rushing, natural house rushing skills are
off the charts. You literally, if you wanted, if they'd
have made the playoffs, you could have given him the
Defensive Player of the Year. And Burrow was in the
MVP talk. His numbers were stupid. Almost nobody talked about it.
Why because they didn't make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Well, because they didn't lost in September yep, yep, which matters, Yeah,
which matters, so.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Bummer, But yeah, that's there are certain teams you just
to want to face. And up until this playoff, the
Pittsburgh wanted to know, I mean, the Baltimore wanted to
know part of Pittsburgh and then they completely dismassman.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Like absolutely just beat the brakes off of them. Yeah yeah, well,
you know, you gotta catch footballs.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
You do that. That usually helps.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
So you're not gonna watch. So no breakdown of the
Pro Bowl at zero.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
If you want to have a guest guest on to
talk about it, you go ahead, But it ain't gonna
be me.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
I won't.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
I'll host it, but also I'll take time off and
go grab some breakfast or something. You don't even eat breakfast,
Well I will that day. That's today when the Pro
Bowl this weekend? Yeah it's Sunday, right yeah, okay, Well
you're gonna talk about it after the game.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
No, right now, we'll go ahead.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
You break it once you dig in, you dig in.
I'd like to know who actually watches that stuff.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
It ain't gonna be me.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
It's tough enough to watch the regular Sunday game three
road three hours in a row. This is a lot
of Pro Bowl game played in flags and gloves that
are the size of a dog on foam finger.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
This is one of the most boring weekends in sports
for me. I'm not watching the Pro Bowl. There'll be
some college basketball on the deal.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
College hoops right now. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Other than that, it's lame, dude, this this, this, this time,
and the time of the year, Like leading into the
super sucks.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Immerse yourself into a hobby. Brian. Yeah, it's called I coach.
There you go.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
I coached ten year olds last week the Live Live
VP Man I Matt bats it's gonna be Sunday today, Did.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
I dress like it's gonna be cold? I got jack now,
but I'm I got it's gonna be loop pants tomorrow,
Travis Matthew had on them ready, Yeah, I'm ready.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
No free pub Man. Well, you know it's just you
went three times there, Tea Matt Yeah, yeah, I'm playing today.
So that's what you know when you don't like the sports.
It's all gor golf. I got to train tomorrow for
kick a couple of quarterbacks this weekend, but I'm gonna
need to play uh tea times but either Blackhawk or
Weston Lakes, which is both my courses, which one, well,
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West Lakes a tad closer, but depending on which one
has the exact tea time after a meeting I had
at noon time, probably around one.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Thirty Lakes or or Blackhawk which one. I don't know
why you're not playing, No, I'm just trying to see if.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
The why are you won't be having a gallery at
the golf course. Yeah, yeah, now I'm gonna go play.
I just haven't decided yet.
Speaker 10 (33:52):
Go on.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Yeah yeah you the man are like over there chipping
on the practice.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Yeah m m yeah, you're really good golf lesson this morning.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Hush, simple man. I think that's the crate and all
serious and I know we're going to break. As in
all seriousness. Sports is hard, Baseball is hard, football, so
all of it, right, Golf's extremely hard, and we make
it way more hard than it is. But simple little
things like that, the simple fixes in sports is insane
to me.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
It is I never thought of that. I literally never
thought of it.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Guy's got a shoulder and left shoulders, right handed golfer
against a wall, and he simply said, and if we
know this, but he made it. So he goes, if
you're hitting an iron, hands hit the wall first, hitting
the driver, the club hits the wall first. And while
we see that when people are doing it, but the
truth is it's so simple, and they put a visual
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up of it. It's like, oh, okay, creating lag with
the driver. I mean it's it's amazing. How oh that
clicks in? Yeah, pretty simple checks out. Always the hands
are going to lead with the iron and the and
the club face is going to lead with the driver.
So easy, so simple. Yeah, it's crazy. I wish it
was that easy to knocket in the hole. The hole
in one's all over Roy McElroy yesterday. Yeah, I mean, uh,
(35:03):
our guy, Shane Lowry, the Irishman. Yeah, knocking one day?
How about that on whole? I think seven knocks it
in the hole right there on the ocean.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
What a what a day man.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
Keep that golf go and put away a hole at
Pebble Beach, one of the most iconic holes in the
in the world. Yeah, they're just the scene at Pebble
Beach watch on TV gets me like bricked.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
What does what does Jim Nance say? A view like
no other? Or what is it you're talking about?
Speaker 5 (35:28):
For the master?
Speaker 8 (35:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
What is it? Hello?
Speaker 6 (35:31):
Friends, Let's see it's a it's a it's a tradition
unlike any other.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Yeah, well, for Pebble Beach is a view like any other. Unbelievable, insane.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
That seventeen mile drives one of the five best five
most beautiful places in the maybe in the world for sure,
in the.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
In the country. Yeah, no doubt, no doubt about it.
All right, let's get to the next segment. We'll continue
to talk about these Houston Texans. They have requested an
interview and it's a local guy from right here in Houston.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Who is it? That's next?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Sean Salisbury Show continues.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Why you're bringing the fro back? Not today? God dang,
he said, no, you said last time you would when.
Speaker 14 (36:11):
I'm getting a retwist. Yeah, you're getting a retwist.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
I'm just getting it.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Yeah, I get a haircut today too. Are you all
the trifecta haircuts in your years?
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Lord?
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Huh, I'm gonna be for the little I'm gonna get
them all cut clippers on the side. You take it
down to a one like one on the side, maybe
state them on the top or flow and let it grow.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
I don't know yet.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
I still to this day, I'll tell the story for
the rest of my life triply.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
The Schawn. I think it was like year one there,
it was flowing.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Remember he didn't have he didn't have any He never
had shaved his head. You always just get a regular
haircut right back then. He didn't wear a hat as often.
I don't even know why I wear because I go golf,
So I just wear it. One random day, he comes
in facial hair gone besides like a little goatee hair,
completely shaved, and he looked pissed.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
When I walked in.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
I was like, like, you are right.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
He's like, yeah, what do you mean? And he made
a joke. I can't say it on air, but he
made a joke and I was like, where's your hair?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Dude?
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Thought natural born killer man. Oh my god, he was
about to Yeah. Took that thing down to one. Everywhere dude.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
It was like the Clippers won everywhere and the go
tea looked like I was ready to chill somebody.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
And he was like, oh yeah, you know for the summer,
I I like to shave it all off. And I
was like, oh yeah, well it's January, prepared, prepared for
the for the I think we're like getting ready to
go into the summer. I think it was like springtime,
like April. Yeah, it was like April May or something.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Yeah. He's like, yeah, what you don't like to state
them looking I was like no, no, no, I did it.
Just don't hurt me. Yea.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
I had the look of anger. Yeah, I start throwing
haymakers because you got a haircut. The go tea. Yeah,
but yeah, first hair cut in like seven weeks from me. Man, Yeah,
time to tighten it up, way yeah, it's way past due.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Man.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Why we're a hat every day except for in here.
We've all been there on the We need to cut
right now. Yeah, tighten it up a little bit.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Well you get those twit get a get a get
a retwist next week, next week. Many Yeah, man, I
want to see the fro Hey, what.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
Don't you twist these nuts on for? Manny?
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Okay, let out of his nuts, get get out of it,
Get out of his uh ketch his get out of
his cavy, his wall. You know you're in his wall.
You're in his his wall. No, you're not as walls wall.
You're rolling up where you're right up in his kitchen.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
You turn his microwave on. Dude, Let let the.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
Man take care of his hair. Well, I'm not sit here,
That's why I'm in the kitchen. Yeah, seven seven nineties
number to join. Let's get out to the function. My goodness, Trippley,
can you punch him up? My mouse ain't working over
here from a task casita there it is, Damien.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
What's happening? Man?
Speaker 12 (38:46):
What's up?
Speaker 11 (38:47):
Hey, how you doing his water?
Speaker 12 (38:49):
God, shame on you pishing on O parades, ragging, ragging
on the Pro Bowl. I have you know, listen, I
have you know why the Pro.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Bowl is in You better get you better, you better
take your ass right off this airways.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Brother, you know that.
Speaker 12 (39:06):
Hey, listen, this is Hey, I'm with you, joke aside.
I really don't care for it, but hey, Brian, tell him,
this is the time of the year where unofficial tap
breaking happen. These players can go out talking to their buddies.
Speaker 6 (39:19):
Hey, free agent stealing. You're right about that, my man.
You get to get up in the guy's grill, say
come join us.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Yeah we poached.
Speaker 12 (39:31):
I believe we poach gigs the way that way. So yeah, hey,
I believe it's important. I hang, I believe you guys.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Man, I love it.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
It's an excellent point. The truth is, if accept your
Pro Bowl bid for that very reason, go play and
go be on a recruiting trip. Take care of a
recruiting trip. Stanley as well, you know what I'm saying.
That's a great point by Dan. I thought he was
about to tell me how much he loves how much
he loves shorts and T shirt football. I know he
did like because he's a hardcore football guy. He likes
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he likes everybody playing dodgeball. Great point, and he's right, dude.
Even back then. I remember when we were covering it
when I was in Hawaii, I mean when it was
in Hawaii, when I was working at ESPN. You could
stand around the fellas, you know, before practice, before you're
doing it, and they'd be talking and talking about coaches
they would or wouldn't play for and teams.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
So it started. It was this was back then. Yeah,
so it is. It's a great point.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
You go there, it's a chance you may be able
to take to you and Stingley or a couple of fellaws,
you know, say hey man, we got a good thing
going on here, yea, and and sell it.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Damn right. Yeah, hell yeah. So Damien makes it. How
dare he do? Right?
Speaker 6 (40:37):
How dare we discount the Pro Bowl because it is
a it is a built in recruiting trip.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
It is for the best players on the planet, not
in this Super Bowl. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Joe Nixon, man, yeah, you call you call him Joe Nixon. Nixon, Yeah,
I like it. I wonder what TJ. Strauss is gonna
be doing. Probably maybe he's playing golf this weekend. Doubt
if I was, if I was elected to the Pro Bowl.
Marino used to do this all the time, Dan Disco, Dan, Okay, Marino.
You get early on, you go to the Pro Bowl
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with the fellas. Then as you got a little older, Dan,
you know, the it happened. Dan would get getting scope,
you know, getting knee cleaned out for the offseason, and
you turn on at and T pel Beach program said,
oh of course you hey man, you can't play in
the Pro Bowl. Man, I can't play.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
And then he's he's ripping, he's ripping drivers at the
five five, six hundred yard hold and strolling ride along
to golf.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Course like I love you, Dan, Man.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
If you know when you go to I guess you
can never take them for granted when you get elected
to twelve of them or whatever.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
At some point, and now what an honor.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
It's still an honor because back then it really wasn't
the eighth alternate, you know, it was just those guys
would actually go. They wouldn't play much, but it was
all they'd have fun in Hawaiian and have a good time.
But it's so true, man, they get to a point
of sure, I guess you're Marino and if the guy
doesn't go, you want to go to that first one.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
But Dan's like, no, I'm going to beach Man. I've
played enough of these Pro Bowls.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
If I made the Pro Bowl, or even if I
didn't and I was in the NFL, I would take
my ass to or Okay, just kidding. If I've made
the Pro Bowl, I'm taking my ass to Hawaii for
two weeks.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
If it was in Hawaii.
Speaker 6 (42:07):
Yeah, oh yeah, ghostly early on man with a fellas.
It's an honor, right, you're with the best of the best.
But I can also see you've been to ten straight
and Pebble Beach and Prorams the same weekend. You're like,
I'm gonna I'm getting my knee cleaned out. Yeah, but
I'm gonna go to Pebble Beach first, right, So I
get it, But it's still an honor.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
These guys would go to twelve. I think the guys
whould go to twelve, fourteen of them.
Speaker 6 (42:31):
Still, I don't think they take them for granted, or
they wouldn't be or they wouldn't keep going to a
meaning their their game would fall off. I think they
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Yeah, it's fun to watch. Man.
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Rockets fall to the Grizzlies last night, snapping their four
game winning streak. Albert and Shan Goon named of the
All Star Team in the NBA for the first time
in his career. Texans continuing their interviews for the offensive
coordinator position.
Speaker 5 (45:35):
With that, the Texans.
Speaker 4 (45:39):
Have officially requested an interview with Commander's assistant head coach
and a offensive pass game coordinator, Brian Johnson. He is
from right here in the city of Houston. He went
to Baytown Lee High School, played at Utah, went undrafted
in nine been coaching since twenty ten twenty, when he
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was a quarterbacks coach at Utah and Sean if you
remember we talked about this little bit off air. He
was the Eagles quarterbacks coach from twenty one to twenty two.
Then he became the offensive coordinator. Then he was fired,
and then he found himself in Washington.
Speaker 6 (46:13):
Yep, he was fired after the one year there after
Shane Steikin he took over for Stike and when he
left and uh, you know, Sirianni ran him out hired
Kellen Moore.
Speaker 5 (46:23):
It's worked for Philadelphia this year.
Speaker 6 (46:25):
I mean coordinators matter man and Brian Johnson is a
highly regarded football coach. It just didn't work in Philadelphia
of calling plays away one see. Think about that now.
I was asked a question about Detroit yesterday, and here
you get asked all the time about Okay, how is
it really that big a deal when you lose coordinators. Well,
if they're successful, it is. Think about what Detroit's going through.
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They're going to take coaches. We've talked about Aaron you know,
Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn, both highly successful, both now
head coaches in the league. This happened to Philadelphia. You
lose them and even if you're in the same building,
and you're the quarterback coach that offensive coordinator, like Brian
Johnson was for Shane Stiking. You leave, it's a still
You've got to put your own stamp on it.
Speaker 5 (47:07):
Right.
Speaker 6 (47:07):
Think about he Stike and Leaves, they were in the
Super Bowl. He and Jonathan Gannon, the defensive coordinator. They
did they get beat those guys go get head coaching jobs,
and they hired offensive defensive coordinator Brian Johnson being one
who'd been in the same room, same building, same system
with Shane Stikin. And then he gets to call the
plays and it just didn't fit for whatever reason. And
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now he's you know, then he goes to Washington and
his passing game coordinator and look at what Jaden Daniels
has done. And now he's going to get this opportunity
to at least interview again. But he's a highly regarded
football coach. He just didn't work at Philly. Doesn't mean
he can't be successful somewhere else. But it does matter. Man,
this higher I've always contended while I know you got
to have a great leader and culture changer as a
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head coach to Mikael Ryans, But I'm just gonna tell
you if you look no further than the staff at
the talent with the players, but look no further than
a great coaching staff to see a team that wins
a lot of games. Yeah, And when I say it,
great head coaches, bad assistants or average coaches, assistants not
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good teachers, they're not gonna win much. Give me a
head coach that has even if it was an average
leader but got by, but had great assistants that were
great teachers, You'll win. So we give the head coach
all the credit and then I get it. But I'm
going to tell you what you can't. The head coach,
the people he hires are paramount. It'll be paramount for Detroit,
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it was paramount for Philadelphia and for this team to
get where they're going. These these hires offensive line coach
which is which is I'm talking about, has to be
done right here, and the offensive coordinator and they need
to be on the same page. This is a This
is as important to hire as as Demiko Ryans will
have made in this first three years. Why both of
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these guys, because you saw the you you saw weakness
which he perceived as a weakness, and you can't let
that continue to believe if you do, now, it's going
to come back on you.
Speaker 5 (49:12):
And you know what, people are gonna say, he's not
the guy.
Speaker 6 (49:14):
Yeah if they if they may make the playfs to say, yeah,
I get there, but we just can't win it, which
which which is a bit unfair. But those those assistants
are important. And I'm glad Brian Johnson's getting an interview.
And you know, he did some good things wherever he's been.
That's why he continues to get interviews.
Speaker 4 (49:30):
Also an interesting note Jeremy Fowler of ESPN reporting that
multiple teams have inquired about Doug Peterson for an offensive
coordinator role.
Speaker 6 (49:38):
This coachycle you. I mean, I don't know if Doug
wants to do it as ahead from ahead he does.
Speaker 5 (49:42):
Yeah, he does.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
Note that he said it's uncertain at the stage whether
he wants to do it or not, right, but teams
are looking into it exactly.
Speaker 6 (49:49):
I would interview him, yeah, hell, I would call him.
The guy is a hell of a play caller. He's
an Andy Reid guy. So's he runs. They just weren't
very good and he got into a lull. And Trevor
Lawrence has been an underachieved as far as the consistency
goes and injuries getting the way. I'm just telling you,
Doug Peterson's a really good play caller, and you could
do a lot worse. Head coaching experience gets it and
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in the building you wouldn't have to babysit his offense.
I have zero issue with it. I would interview him now.
I would try to convince him. Hey, dude, listen, I
know you want to be a head coach, but what
would hurt come in here, have some success.
Speaker 5 (50:21):
You got to go.
Speaker 6 (50:22):
And he should be intriguing to want to work with
a good quarterback and he's got one.
Speaker 5 (50:26):
Yeah, you can do far worse than Doug Peterson.
Speaker 4 (50:28):
Well, with Doug Peterson if you bring him in, there's
your experience.
Speaker 5 (50:34):
Got a super Bowl? You want a super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (50:36):
He did, So there's your there's your super Bowl experience,
there's your longtime experience. And you look at what he's
done with quarterbacks outside of Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 6 (50:44):
But Lawrence did some good things consistently right up and
down man.
Speaker 5 (50:50):
And and I don't know if if he does want to.
Speaker 6 (50:54):
Well out of all the names you mentioned, Of all
the names you mentioned, the safest hire would be him
is the Peterson, the safe that if you want to
just say play it safe. It may not be sexy
to some, but we're not going to show up and
have no idea what's going on. We're not worried about Well,
he's first time play caller. Does he know how to
get into this rhythm? He's really brilliant, but it's his
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first time play caller. God to see like we were
waiting for Bobby Slow, see what was going to happen?
Well with this. I know a guy who's called him
in the biggest games. He's had his teeth kicked in
because he struggled and Jay fired. He's been a head coach.
He knows he's from Andy Reid, and Andy Reid does
it right, and he's got some has done a phenomenal
job of teaching other guys to go out and get opportunities.
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And the safest, the safe the guys of the guys
they've interviewed these very safest is is Doug Peterson. And
they haven't interviewed him right right, No, they'd like to,
but he's the he'd be the safest hire the guys
that they've that we brought up. Bill Laser has been
around even, but Doug Peterson's at the highest level.
Speaker 5 (51:52):
Yah.
Speaker 4 (51:52):
You mentioned the word sexy. Has there even been a
sexy uh interview so far here?
Speaker 5 (51:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (51:59):
Uh not that would doesn't mean they're not great code,
but just to said that the the optics of the
sexiness of a guy.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, right exactly. I just I think
Chip Kelly would be uh sexy interview.
Speaker 6 (52:12):
Now he'd be Now he's a he'd be a safe pick,
but a wild card too because Chip will do some
things and he's got he's got some ego, and he
also is very stern. I'm sure he and to Miko
will get along. But Chip would be like, I'll handle
the offense. You let this, let me take care of this. Yeah,
And so you got to deal with a strong personality
and I don't think you should ever feel threat I
always believe that the great head coaches hire great assistants,
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and the higher assistants they expect.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
To be head coaches. I believe that that.
Speaker 6 (52:37):
They at least they opened the door from expecting the
guy that he may not be here and and not
be threatened by it as a head coach in the building.
Speaker 5 (52:44):
Right that. Oh, Doug Peterson's here. What if he takes
it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (52:47):
Yes, yeah, he'll go get another head coaching job somewhere else. Right,
But you need those guys around. They're just as important
as the talent on the field at developing the guys
in the house. And Doug Peterson would be a safe pick,
if not a really successful one, because he's done it
in the biggest games there is.
Speaker 4 (53:03):
If you're Doug Peterson and you have aspirations to be
a head coach again, wouldn't take in an offensive coordinator
job help.
Speaker 5 (53:09):
That out and dominating lute? Yeah, and doing well?
Speaker 6 (53:12):
To me, if you don't take it, it comes down to
he's still got money on that contract and you get
the difference. And if you go to me, it comes
down to simple can you handle the would your ego
getting the way.
Speaker 5 (53:23):
Because you still think you're a head coach?
Speaker 16 (53:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (53:25):
But in truth, sometimes you got to reset and redo it.
And it wouldn't be a bad place to start, right,
And a lot of guys have to reset and redo
it at a bad because you're hiring new coaching staff
for teams that suck usually or that guy that leaves
and goes gets one because the team's good. In this case,
it's a little purgatory for him. You're coming to a
team that has a quarterback. So for me taking a
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coordinator job, would the guy that's under a center would
have to be a big damn part of it. And
dougno's offensive line play too.
Speaker 4 (53:53):
So that was gonna be my next segue into into
the last part of this question that I was going
to ask you is, let's just say you go in
high hired Doug Peterson. I'm assuming he knows offensive line play.
He does run blocking, pass blocking, and he would have
a big say in the offensive line coach.
Speaker 6 (54:09):
And with that with the offense of whoever that guy is,
and he should have a say, and the guy he'd
want to bring in. Yeah, and the guy who just
got hired in wheld Moron go again? Uh, Doug Maroon
went to Uh, yeah, I believe with the Jets, with
with with Glenn or did he go somewhere else?
Speaker 5 (54:27):
Let's see, Oh no, he with Mike Rabel. There you
go Rabel in New England. They just hire Steve Wilkes
went to the Jets.
Speaker 6 (54:33):
That's exactly right, and he's gonna be He's gonna be
Aaron's defensive corrrect and Steve deserves this. He's a He's
a damn good football coach. I'm just telling you now
that like a guy like Doug Moron, watch New England's
offensive line this year, they will be better, and that
you've got to find a guy like that who is
a great technician, but also Maron's got some nasty in.
Speaker 5 (54:54):
Him too, which is good.
Speaker 4 (54:55):
Yeah, that's going to be a Mike Rabel's put together
a pretty damn good staff.
Speaker 5 (54:58):
Well, you learn those lessons time around. Who you gotta
have around you?
Speaker 4 (55:02):
Yeah, yep, all right, let's get to the steak out
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I'm standing up, steaked out, steaked out right now. I'm
also all right, we know something that we do know.
Speaker 4 (57:30):
The refs in the NFL give a little more leeway
to the uh to the Jeeves, to the Patrick Mahomes
and the Kansas City chiefs. What kind way to put it,
you say, Dean Blandino. Remember Dean Blandino.
Speaker 5 (57:46):
I do I know all about Dino.
Speaker 4 (57:48):
He is the former and if you don't know, he's
the former NFL Senior VP of Officiating. He also does stuff,
I think he still does stuff on the Fox broadcast.
Speaker 5 (57:58):
He does the rules analyst. He does.
Speaker 4 (58:00):
His brother has come out and said that he is
convinced the league is rigged, and he is accusing of
his brother, Dean Blandino, of signing an NDA that will
prevent him from revealing it.
Speaker 5 (58:19):
He cites.
Speaker 4 (58:21):
Obviously the chiefs and the refs for Patrick Mahomes, And
it's gotten to the point that he has accused his brother,
Dean Blandino, of signing an NDA.
Speaker 6 (58:40):
Well, I'll tell you it's always nice when the family
has your back. Yeah, Dean Blandino did comment on it,
and he says, he said, my brother is convinced that
the league is rigged. He's also convinced that I signed
an NDA when I left league office. I signed an
NDA that I cannot tell anybody that it is rigged.
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We grew up in the same household. By the way,
I said, listen, there's no conspiracy the officials. There's too
many variables. There's too much going on. To me, it's
the hardest sport.
Speaker 4 (59:08):
When you think about football, with seven different officials to say, okay,
I'm gonna rig this game, or the game is rigged
from the league office down, the officiers just trying to
get it right.
Speaker 5 (59:16):
End quote.
Speaker 4 (59:17):
I don't care what you say, Dean Blandon. I think
it's actually easier. Seven officiers could probably come together and
be like, hey, man, did you see that? And the
guy could be like, no, I didn't see that, while
winking at him or something, you know, be a little hyperbolic.
But I do think there is I don't think it's rigged, Sean.
I think it's I don't know how to put it.
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I think there are.
Speaker 6 (59:40):
Well, it wasn't rigged for my Minnesota Vikings. I can
tell you that it wasn't rig Yeah, they rig it
for our playoff runs.
Speaker 5 (59:47):
I don't think it was.
Speaker 4 (59:47):
I don't think it's rigged, but I think there are
certain things that happen in these games, regardless of what
who's playing. They're all shift. I don't know how to
explain it. Man, you know what they want? Yeah, right,
here's the deal. I uh, Dean Blandino's brother. I wonder
(01:00:08):
how Thanksgiving will be this time around the family vacation.
You want to go to the family reunion.
Speaker 6 (01:00:14):
Yeah, leave the brother out because well he's bust tossed
his referee brother.
Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
I mean, oh, family are going to make this up.
This article is on NBC sports dot Com. Yeah, you can't.
You can't make it up. Maybe they're tight. I don't know,
but it's odd. I I don't know if it's rigged.
I know this that I think it's human nature, human
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nature to be for the NFL to want the three
pete that.
Speaker 6 (01:00:51):
I think that every year that it's like I said,
you're gonna you're gonna tell me Michael Jordan if he
gets I mean, if it's close to a foul, wasn't
gonna get the call. I'm not saying it's right because
I hate it. I don't think the backup. I don't
think this eighth man on the bench should be treated
any different than a superstar on a basketball court.
Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
But whatever it is, it's it happens.
Speaker 6 (01:01:12):
I personally don't think they go into a game and
get a mandate from the NFL, from Roger Goodell's office
saying Kansas City must win. Now, I know at times
it feels like it and it's bad, and it makes
you question because I do the same thing. I'm just
trying to look at it legitimate, thinking how hard it
would be and how stupid you would have to be
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as an official, And we've had some dumb ones to
do that to rig games or to be in the game.
Speaker 5 (01:01:41):
How stupid you would be.
Speaker 6 (01:01:43):
You will get that they will eventually follow the money,
so it may not be rigged. But do I think
that at times there's a bias to certain teams. I
don't think there's any question and certain players. We'd be
lying and sugarcoating, all spraying cologne on a big pile
of crap if we thought that that doesn't exist.
Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
Rigged is a hardcore word, right, That's so.
Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
That's why I was trying to find the word that
I'm trying to describe it. I don't think it's rigged,
but I think there are times how about nudged it
towards them? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (01:02:18):
And so I do believe that that happens, and I
think I think, as an official, be easy to get into.
Oh that's your guy and your high five and all
those things. But I don't think that's the reason the
Kansas City Chiefs are headed to their third Super Bowl.
I think it's assisted them along the way, and at
times you're playing against twelve people. I don't think there's
any doubt. It's not the first team this has happened for.
(01:02:42):
But I don't want to diminish how good they are.
But they don't need the help. Is the point. You
got to get it right? Yea, so rigged, I'm not
going that far and his brother, hopefully they'll have a
good conversation. But hey, thanks man, how you doing? You
want to come over for dinner tonight? Grab some pizza?
But do I think they there is a Do I
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think they have a problem with a little nudge towards
protecting them a little more? No, I think it does
exist in all sports. Everybody has a favorite brother and
you can say however you want. Everybody has a favorite
in some way, shape or form, and what they do.
Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
I just just get the calls right. And with all
the technology. We've talked about this so many damn times
this season, get it right. You have instant replay, get
it right.
Speaker 6 (01:03:31):
The first part of getting it right is the base
foundation of like what is past interference?
Speaker 5 (01:03:36):
What is?
Speaker 6 (01:03:37):
And that's why you got to go back. You should
be able to review every penalty. That doesn't mean you
get a flag to throw a red flag fifteen times
I'm talking about in the booth while the play's going on. Well,
you're still in the regular flow of the game, offensive
pass interference, but they don't call it. You should the
guy in New York or who's in the state, you know,
who's on that replay should be able to go back
(01:03:58):
and say, oh, dude, he pushed off. Need to come
take a look at it, and him come take a
look at it. See if they decide if that's the case.
You know, I I believe. Hell, how about that offside's
penalty last week that they called on?
Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
Was it on?
Speaker 6 (01:04:12):
Buffalo got a headsize I think it was on our guy,
local hero. What's the what's what's the guy here at
the play at the University at Oliver. Didn't he get
a jump? Somebody got a jump and they called it.
Didn't they call a penalty on him like encroachment because
he jumped. I mean he got to the the he
beat the love of the ball. And some are saying, well,
the prairi was perfect timing, you know, we got he
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guessed and jumped it. But why couldn't you review that?
Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
Why?
Speaker 6 (01:04:36):
Why shouldn't you be able to If a guy lines
up in the neutral zone, if his helmet's over the
ball and he's and he's offside, why shouldn't you Because
human error. The referees are fallible, we know that, but
you can prevent it by having somebody up there who
you're you're you're just watching and making sure that Now
that doesn't mean you you're gonna call holding on.
Speaker 5 (01:04:55):
Every place, sitting up in the booth and buzz it down.
Speaker 6 (01:04:57):
But you know what plays I'm talking about, and and
I just think you should be able to review. They're
all judgment calls, right, be able to If you've got
a red flag and you've got two reviews, review them.
Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
Have at it.
Speaker 6 (01:05:08):
Got your review and both haves you know, have at it.
And it may be the off sides in the first
quarter that ends up getting you a first down that
takes you to in the end zone and wins the game.
Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
I just just get it right that it's not that
it's a novel concept. Yeah. Troy Aikman.
Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
Was on a podcast with Sports Illustrated and he talked
about the conspiracy theories and how to get it right
when it comes to these calls.
Speaker 6 (01:05:32):
And he does he does not mince words on when
it comes to referees and penalties and soft play.
Speaker 5 (01:05:38):
Yeah, this is uh.
Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
We'll hear that audio and we will discuss it next
right here on Sports Tux seven.
Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
To eighty The Sean Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
Troy Aikman.
Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
He was on the call for the Kansas City Chiefs
in Houston, Texans Divisional round playoff game. Obviously there were
some questionable calls. He voiced his displeasure with those calls.
He was on a podcast with Sports Illustrated and he
talked about getting the calls right in the NFL with
the officiating.
Speaker 5 (01:06:09):
This is how it sounded.
Speaker 18 (01:06:11):
I I know the officials have a They have a
tough job, you know.
Speaker 9 (01:06:17):
I mean the scrutiny that they're under.
Speaker 18 (01:06:21):
As we've gotten more advanced with inchin replay, those guys,
it seems, have become more and more scrutinized, and the
game has not become less controversial.
Speaker 9 (01:06:31):
The game has become more controversial.
Speaker 18 (01:06:33):
But then I just think that we are at a
point and this this is tipped a little bit because
the league is in partners with a number of these
gambling services. So here you are promoting gambling. People are
gambling more than they ever had before, and those types
of calls are there's a lot at stake regardless, but
especially when you're considering there's a lot of money that's
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changing hands with these.
Speaker 9 (01:06:57):
Calls as well.
Speaker 18 (01:06:58):
So I think that we owe it to the fans
that we get it right and and I think we're
at a point in time where we can't we can
get it more right. So that's that was really my position,
and just trying to lean on the NFL and say, hey,
you know, we've got to fix this.
Speaker 9 (01:07:15):
We've we've got to address it in the off season.
Speaker 5 (01:07:18):
And that's Troy.
Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
Yeah, And with that, what happens is and I'll expand
on what Troy said, and and I don't want to
speak for him, but I'm assuming too. What he means
also is with this betting change, and I don't think
he's saying that the referees are on the take. I
got I gathered and he's right, it's a brutal job.
I don't want it. Hence why they those guys go
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do it and you're not going to get them all right,
but you got to get most of them right, because
that's why you're the expert.
Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
But I can tell you what he means.
Speaker 6 (01:07:47):
The thing is, it's a it's a bit of hypocrisy,
which is okay. I mean, betting is not going away.
It's only going to get bigger and stronger across the country.
Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
That's just the way it is.
Speaker 6 (01:07:55):
It just is too much money to be made, right,
and you can follow the cash anywhere, so betting it
can go away. It's going to show and it's going
to show up in places like Texas whether you like
it or not. But here's what the deal is is
with it is it's when a call on the field happens.
I think with Troy's saying, you know, oh, look, taking
a safety. I mean there's plays that you say that
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changed the whole course the Texans Chiefs game, they taking
a safety, Think.
Speaker 5 (01:08:20):
How about that?
Speaker 6 (01:08:20):
How that changed? Oh my gosh. And so there's that
God And then on a bad call, when it's a
bad call and it costs you, and Troy's talking about
money changing hands, is you can't help but think with
all the gambling that I think what he's saying is
the questions start to enter your mind what's going on here?
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And he's right, we're more critical of referees now than
we've ever been. They got more technology now than they've
ever had and more opportunities to see it, and yet
they're under more scrutiny and there's more and at times,
rightfully so, I think some of them have lost confidence
and they rely on instant replay to bail them out
at time. So they're not as not as precise and
dynamic as they were when it was just them and
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not replay making the call. But with all this betting
and gambling, is I go a sponsors and putting them
on jerseys and everywhere they go that it's the fans
perspective that when it's a bad three or four bad
calls in a row or in a quarter, you're like,
come on, man, it's too obvious, right that I think
of what it is that change hands and it gets
into people's head and the fans they're not getting it right.
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What's human nature when that happens, not one time, but
three times or four times, is to think, well, somebody's
on the take or this is rigged right, that's what
you think.
Speaker 5 (01:09:35):
So it opens up the can of worms and what's
it lead to?
Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
More scrutiny by the referee.
Speaker 6 (01:09:39):
I actually think if you brought the referee in to
a post conference, like I said, and let them do
what the players do, like where we all hear it
and see it, I actually think they could take some
of the pressure off them by answering it. Honestly, I
think they'd get less scrutinized. We're worried about their security.
You ought to worry more about their security when they're
not talking. So I think that's what it is. It
comes down to the money changing hands. We hope it's
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not changing hands with the wrong people. But guys are
sitting in sports books that we all want to go
to every week, wait, hanging there on every call on
teams you don't even root for, and when they make
bad coll after bad coll after bad call, the initial
of the thought in your mind is it goes from
conspiracy theory to I'm not wrong. That's how we think, right,
So I think he spot on with this, and you
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got to get it right. That's why you have technology,
You got to get it right.
Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
Well, I think with all of these partnerships and sponsorships,
big gambling agencies and casinos and all that, just like
over in the NBA, Terry Rogier right now being investigated
for the Johntay Porter ring where Johntay Porter was basically
throwing games and throwing his play to affect the outcome
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because he was on the take. Terry Rogier apparently was
involved in it as well. So you look at it
in the NBA and we know that what was a
guy's named Tim Donahey, we know that he was throwing
games and things like that. But I just I personally
have a hard time believing that there's not a couple
of referees in the NFL, or in sports period or
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in sports period that are benefiting from these partnerships.
Speaker 6 (01:11:13):
Statistics would tell you that some of the most that
everybody's got advice or something that they're not talking about.
I'm not saying this the case, but statistics would say
with all these things, somebody's got to be You did
think somebody's got to be doing this right. Think about this.
You're not making fifty five million years a quarterback. I'm
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just throwing you know, scenarios out there. You're or an
NBA player. Let's say you're a middle of the road
or a college basketball player. It's not gonna play in
the NBA and you're not an nil guy, but you
play and you can affect. You're the point guard, but
you're not getting drafted because you're slow and you're a
good college player. But you know that you're going right
into coaching when you're done. You're going to go get
a job on Wall Street. And somebody comes to you
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and says, all you got to do is make sure
you guys don't win by ten, nine and a half
or us and you control the game and they're offering
you two and a half million dollars on it, three
million bucks and you know that's the most money you're
ever going to make in your career, and they keep
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coming at you. Now the problem is, once you're in,
you're out.
Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (01:12:25):
You ain't getting out so and you'll be chasing money
and then you're looking over your shoulder the whole time.
Who's going to sell me? What's going on? What happens
when I don't collect? What happens when they put three
million dollars and I said I got this and we
screw it up? You know what I'm saying now, It
doesn't go from money. It goes from you losing a
finger in a hand and the stuff you see on
TV and we know it's real to me. But the
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temptation of an official saying I'm never going to get ahead.
What about the guy who may have been betting in
high school or college and he's behind seventy thousand dollars
and can't catch up chasing money. I'm not saying it's
a good thing, but of all the athletes, all the coaches,
all the players, all the referees, all the executives, all
the people, and now with big betting in mind, and
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you know, people are knocking on doors to an eighteen
year old kids that thinks he's getting hosed. Nil, I
know how I'm gonna get even. I can control this game.
I am the right guard and on fourth and one,
we ain't getting the first down to coming over me.
You know you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So doesn't humanate?
Are is every single guy that walks into a locker
room or officiating pure? No, that's the And I don't
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think that's conspiracy. The I know we all take the
but you know what it's like when you get into
a marriage. Guys will say, you know what, Galt, hey
loyal to death to us part blah blah blah, and
two years in they're married to somebody else. It didn't work.
They say what they're pure and law they're supposed to be.
Of course, we have this delusions of grandeur that think
that everybody's straight when it comes to calling games. I
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can tell you this, if they're not, plenty have been approached. Yeah,
and people were getting approached long before when when I
was playing, getting approached long before betting was a sponsor
in the NFL, NBA or Major League Baseball or hockey.
So does it exist. There's a party that says there's
no way it can't. But I don't believe the games
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are rigged. It's too How do you rig eleven on eleven, yeah,
I can. You may be able to rig one on
one tennis, yeah, or golf. I don't know how you
rig eleven on eleven. You can make a call every now,
but determine the betting outcome of a game on every
Like guy catches h ball on the en zone. He's
clearly and you say, no, no, no, he's not in the endzone.
I mean, come on, dude, you're just flashing me on sign,
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you know what I'm saying. So unless players, a player
and an official are in on it together, I just
it's hard to fathom. But I think we're past conspiracy
theories on some I think it is legitimate for people
to question sometimes when you think there's no way on
God's green Earth they missed that call, and then they
go check it out and they still miss it. You're like, come,
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what in the hell is going on here? I do
believe it's all worthy of the.
Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
Banter we're having, no question, I don't think there's the
pureness that we think as far as officials.
Speaker 6 (01:15:11):
Let's put ourselves real quick, and I promise I'm staying
here now. I never ever I wasn't a better grow
I mean, you know, you bet your buddy on a
golf course or shooting free throws.
Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
Right.
Speaker 6 (01:15:20):
I was never a sports gambler in college or highs.
I didn't have the money to do it. Nil would
have been Hell now I got ten million bucks, great, Yeah,
but you're just fighting scramble on a scholarship check enough
to get your money for a pizza and a beer
with your buddies or your girl right in college. I'm
just telling you, start to think. Now for a second,
let's put ourselves in their shoes. Middle of the road player,
but an important one in the college level. Hell, I
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don't even know maybe him in high schoo are they
been on high school?
Speaker 5 (01:15:44):
I don't know. Hell, but in college level or pro level,
you're a pivotal player. But you're not.
Speaker 6 (01:15:49):
You're every year you're fighting to keep your job. And
somebody comes in office your five million dollars to to to.
Speaker 5 (01:15:54):
To just in your court.
Speaker 6 (01:15:58):
And skew it in their direction for five mili and
it's tax free and it's cash, and I would consider it.
And you think, Man, I'm at the stage. I'm at
the end of my career. I don't have any money saved.
Speaker 5 (01:16:09):
What am I going to do?
Speaker 6 (01:16:10):
Somebody and somebody, and you go to say five, how
about six? And the guy says fine, But once you're in,
you're staying in. Yeah, unless you get us. They won
that bet, and you said, I'm out. I can't control
the games anymore. I'm done. You walk away a five
man cash, which would be what seventy seven point five
million dollars in a normal world. So you can see
how somebody would say, like you mentioned the NBA, hell,
I ain't ever gonna be a star again the first
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of the No. Yeah, yeah, porter, yeah, And you're saying.
Speaker 5 (01:16:35):
I'm going to be a star in this league. This
will way to buy. I can pay for my house,
I can have roof over my head the rest of
my life. Yeah, not that it's good, but you.
Speaker 6 (01:16:42):
See, you see how that that slippery slope can go
downhill fast.
Speaker 5 (01:16:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:16:48):
Every guy in college and every guy in the NFL,
and every guy in NBA, and every guy plays high
school sports and every so they're all clean. The biggest
degenerate gamblers in the world are on college campuses. Make
no mistake about.
Speaker 5 (01:16:57):
It, no doubt. Dude, walk through a fraternity and you
start talking gambling.
Speaker 6 (01:17:00):
They may not know what's on the test they're taking
in their history class or their dug on English class
in school English Lit. I'll guarant ask to you they
know what the points spread of the long horns of
the a and m Aggies are this week, you know
when they're playing.
Speaker 4 (01:17:12):
I guarantee you that frat brose in America want three things.
They want sports betting, they want their zins, and they
want to play.
Speaker 5 (01:17:18):
Golf, right, and they want then they want to be
able to have some zoids.
Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
Yeah things, Yeah, you're right, they all that's three of
the five and most important, that's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (01:17:27):
So rampant right now.
Speaker 6 (01:17:29):
And if you're a if you're one of those guys
who knows how to go get people to bet, first place,
you go find a college campus that's not getting an
I ellen's not a star score. You asked the star
and see if you can. But you better be careful
because you don't want that star to sell you out right,
And he said, she shid. But my point is you
can see the slippery slope a game. I mean, I
love to bet, but I ain't never chasing money, right
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And as a player, I I didn't want to watch
points for you. If you were an underdog, or if
you weren't, but you never came up with what's the spread?
Speaker 5 (01:17:57):
Spread? Wasn't it?
Speaker 6 (01:17:57):
Are we underdogs? Are we favorites? That kind of left
out there when you mentioned spread? All suddenybody looks up?
What do we talk about? Don't look at that in
the paper this week? You want to know?
Speaker 5 (01:18:05):
Yeah? No, Thanksuse.
Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
You want to find the degenerous, just go right down
to the University Use campus and find that frat house
for Sigma Guy KNU or whatever they're called.
Speaker 5 (01:18:12):
You know, the frat bros. They know the points spread
for tonight. Damn right they do.
Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
They know like, what do we got tonight? And check
it out? The college slate for Friday night? Oh, I
guarantee you they know Harvard at Columbia. Columbia's favored by
four and a half. They know it.
Speaker 5 (01:18:27):
And the smart ones don't just bet the big games.
You bet the ones you said the object to Betty.
You bet where you can win.
Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
Saint Peter's at Ryder, Saint Peter's favor by one and
a half.
Speaker 5 (01:18:36):
I'm a you know, I'm a college basketball guy. They's
a sucker for a good parlay, are we all? Yep?
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Speaker 6 (01:20:04):
We want to win.
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Sean Salisbury continues on seven.
Speaker 5 (01:20:07):
Ninety Andy, what's happening.
Speaker 11 (01:20:11):
We forgot to mention running backs yesterday? Great running backs?
Speaker 4 (01:20:15):
Oh yeah, we did forget the running back position. Uh
Joe Mixon and uh Darry and uh whom.
Speaker 6 (01:20:22):
I missing Damon Damian Peers. That's a solid mixing. Takes
it to an A. That's a solid B plus.
Speaker 5 (01:20:31):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the BEA.
Speaker 6 (01:20:32):
I don't I don't think that position was a weakness.
That position was a strength.
Speaker 11 (01:20:36):
Yeah, and I think he could have been I don't
think it was exploded enough either.
Speaker 5 (01:20:40):
More more production in the past game with the running backs.
Speaker 11 (01:20:44):
Yeah, and also Beck as a fullback what they bought
him in the last game to do that? How crazy? Hey,
look here real quick on the free agents, just on
the ones that uh I picked that that that main something?
What do you think Giggs?
Speaker 6 (01:21:04):
Depending on how much I need to know the money?
Speaker 11 (01:21:08):
If the money if on all these if the money's right, let's.
Speaker 6 (01:21:13):
Yes, I would he was having a he was having
another thousand yard season, I would definitely sign him.
Speaker 5 (01:21:18):
Uh, knowing the money's right.
Speaker 11 (01:21:21):
How about if you know that money would get you Higgins.
Speaker 6 (01:21:26):
Coming off an injury, I'd probably have to I'd probably
have to say give me t Higgins at this stage.
If you're Cincinnati, I think you're dumb for even letting
that guy out of the building.
Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
You can't.
Speaker 11 (01:21:40):
I don't know if they got the money to be.
Speaker 6 (01:21:41):
To pay you know what, they better find somebody. They
better move somebody else around and do everything they can
to pay that.
Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
So the purgatory that they're going to be in is
they've got Trey Henderson, Jamar Chase, Anti Higgins all going
to be needing money.
Speaker 6 (01:21:53):
Good paying them all to you? I mean because because
number two makes number one pretty damn good. Meaning the
meaning with Chase, if you're just the number one and
there ain't nobody else on your team, it gets tougher
and tougher to do and chase out a monster year.
Speaker 5 (01:22:07):
He's gonna get paid. But there's got to be a
way for them to keep.
Speaker 6 (01:22:10):
You got to have two of them. And if they
let him get away that that's the drug test thement. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (01:22:16):
But if he's yeah, that's pretty much the only offensive
guys that's free agent that you got to make a choice.
All the other guys are like Woods and Dare and
teen them and that's no big deal. But now defense
you got you got two guys, you got fat at
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Causey and Edwards. I think you gotta sign both.
Speaker 6 (01:22:40):
Those great, especially with where they play in what you need.
I don't think there's any doubt. And I be shocked
if they don't. This defense doesn't need a lot of
doesn't need a lot of bodies. They needed to, you know,
just a few things to you know, to to shore
some things up. And uh, but I I you got
to have all though those big fellows at the line
of I mean, you got to have as many of
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those as you can. And those both guys, I thought
both guys took a step in the right direction this year.
Speaker 11 (01:23:06):
Oh I do too. I think they I think they
should have been paid twice as much what they got
paid from what for the output they that's fair? No teeth,
I mean teeth. Murray, Yeah, you get him, but you
don't want him being a starter like you had to
be this year because all the injuries, highness, you know,
probably not en Hansen, probably not Barnett maybe, but is
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ward of free agent. I didn't see him on the list.
I thought he was a I thought they only signed
him for two years.
Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
I thought they extended him another year. I thought they
exercised that option or whatever it was. Yeah, yeah, they
got him for an additional year.
Speaker 11 (01:23:44):
Okay, what He's basically been a mediocre player at best.
Speaker 5 (01:23:51):
Right, he just can't stay healthy. He can't ever stay healthy.
Speaker 11 (01:23:56):
You know, it just doesn't seem like he produced. I mean,
just your eye your eye test. Consider his last year
compared to Bullocks this year. I think I think Bullock
had I test is is just as good. He's a rookie.
Speaker 6 (01:24:16):
Yeah, Bullet's eye test is off the charts. That guy's got.
His upside is sick.
Speaker 11 (01:24:23):
So so going into going into free agency and uh,
and look, I don't think you can trade. You're stuck
with Howard touns on Mason. You can get out of
Mason's contract.
Speaker 5 (01:24:35):
I think you can. Yeah, Shaq Mason, excuse me.
Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
You can save some money actually if you cut him
after June fifth, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 11 (01:24:44):
Yeah, this year, Yeah, you can save money. Yeah. But
the other two guys Howard, yeah, yeah, and so and
and you can't trade Shoults, right nobody chief?
Speaker 6 (01:24:59):
Yeah, well you William might. You might only get an
apple in a roadmap for him.
Speaker 5 (01:25:02):
But it's something he couldn't block. He couldn't block me.
It was disappointing. I expected more out of him this year.
Speaker 11 (01:25:10):
You guys understand this blocking is like rebounding in the NBA.
You just gotta want to do it.
Speaker 5 (01:25:15):
Yeah, exactly good. That's a really good comparison.
Speaker 6 (01:25:18):
No doubt about it. It's it's effort. It's effort, it said.
Speaker 11 (01:25:22):
That's exactly right. You just got to say screw it.
That guy that divisive ends thirty pounds bigger than I am,
and he's probably fifty stronger than I am. But I
just got to meet up and bust him in his
in his face.
Speaker 5 (01:25:36):
The way that position works, no doubt.
Speaker 11 (01:25:39):
That's right. And well, so going into free agency and
then draft. I'm thinking you got to look for a
tight end quickly. Most of it's going to be offense.
Speaker 5 (01:25:51):
Right, agreed.
Speaker 6 (01:25:53):
Yeah, I gotta find I gotta find depth at tight end.
Speaker 5 (01:25:56):
And it's in a star. I got it that that's
gotta happen.
Speaker 11 (01:25:59):
I think that's the number one position, right, tied.
Speaker 6 (01:26:01):
In and and if if you if you tell me
the receivers are healthy on offense, that in offensive line.
Speaker 5 (01:26:08):
Yeah, they kind of go hand in hand, no doubt
about it.
Speaker 10 (01:26:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (01:26:11):
And I think you got to in free agency. I
think the key thing if you don't sign Diggs, I
think you got to get your a top receiver.
Speaker 5 (01:26:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 17 (01:26:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:26:20):
Oh, and you gotta hope he's a one, not a two.
I mean he'll be the one, he'll be the two
here with Nico Collins. But you got to treat it
like you're going to get a number one receiver.
Speaker 5 (01:26:28):
I agree.
Speaker 11 (01:26:29):
So let's say you get Higgins because of that with
mix and having that inside trading position because he knows him.
Let's say they get Higgins. So you got Higgins, Nico Mitchi, Hutchison.
You're gonna let Woods go, I believe. So are you
happy with Michi and Husson and being your number three
and four.
Speaker 5 (01:26:50):
I still think there's growth there. I'm not. I think
I can. I'm starting with John Metchi.
Speaker 6 (01:26:56):
We're just starting to see him elevate because of everything
he's been through. I'm okay as three and far away.
And you know, Tank Dell may not be back next year.
But when you when Dell gets back and you go
get a T. Higgins or a guy like that, and
you have Nico Collins and then you have a Hutchinson
and a Mechi that continue to grow that the pressures
not on them to be that guy. They just got
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to be a guy in the lineup that makes a difference. Yeah,
I'm okay with them. I'm okay. I think they're both.
I think there's some growth there.
Speaker 5 (01:27:23):
I do.
Speaker 6 (01:27:24):
The offense is solid in certain places, but they've got
to get better up front. It won't matter what the
perimeter people like. And defense is your strength, make no
mistake about it.
Speaker 5 (01:27:32):
Appreciate the call. Andy. We got to get into stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:27:34):
Andy, we got to get into the eight o'clock hour
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Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
Usc truth, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
Brian Lima, go Lobos. This is the Seawan Salsbury Show.
Speaker 4 (01:28:14):
Texans continuing their interviews for their open Offensive coordinator position.
Oh buddy, Justin Tucker kicker for the Baltimore Ravens once
at the University of Texas. He is in some hot water,
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My goodness, Ravens. Justin Tucker has been accused of inappropriate
sexual behavior by six massage therapists. It's been alleged that
he has engaged in inappropriate, inappropriate behavior at four high
end spas and wellness centers in the Baltimore region, according
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to six different massage the including exposing his genitals, brushing
two of them with his exposed penis, and leaving what
they believed to be.
Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
Basically him finishing on a table.
Speaker 6 (01:29:13):
This is such an uncomfortably didn't want to read that word.
It's so cringe worthy, man, how are we supposed to.
Speaker 5 (01:29:19):
Comment on this? Not knowing?
Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
And then several therapists said that Tucker's behavior was so
agregious egregious that they ended his sessions early or refused
to work on him again, and two of the spas
banned him from returning. This is this is the same
thing that happened with Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 5 (01:29:35):
Wasn't this twenty twelve to twenty sixteen? Correct? And we're
in twenty twenty five. Yeah, why is it taking so long?
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (01:29:44):
Well, I wish I had a comment on it other
than we've we've If he did it, then he's then
he's not real bright. It's always my question, what were
you thinking? Come on there, there's almost ten years ago, yeah,
omber ten years ago. Yeah, why Now, I'm not saying
who's who. I have zero idea what his massage sessions are. Like,
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that's them and him, and they're going to deal with it.
So the comment we all know it's it's it's it's like, yeah,
all right, gross, But I have no idea he said.
They're they're obviously vehemently denying it, and you know they're
going to talk to money grab and all that stuff.
And he's a high he's a you know, a celebrity
in the town and all that I have. I've read
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it and it's it's not good.
Speaker 5 (01:30:31):
But then you ask why.
Speaker 6 (01:30:32):
I'm not saying he did or didn't do it, but
why didn't it happen in twenty twelve? Why why in
twenty twenty five did he pissed somebody off along the way,
didn't pay him off? Or did they? Is it not
true at all? And it's just a you know they're
going the moment. I don't know. I have no idea
that I know the names are, you know, to protect
them in privacy, so Baltimore Ravens, you know, or the fans,
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or if somebody doesn't you know, you know, go after them.
I have zero idea, man, And it's just it's a
it's such a we've seen, We've talked about this movie
ad nauseum. If you're doing it wrong, then you're doing
it wrong and you should be dealt with accordingly. If
it's them, then they should be dealt with accordingly. Other
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than that, I have zero idea other than guess what.
At some point in time, they'll come to an agreement,
they'll come to whatever, or it'll just go away, or
it'll get settled, or they'll be in court. Who knows,
and then and only then Right now, it's simply he said,
She said, and I really don't have any idea. I
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haven't spoken five words of Justin Tucker in my life,
and I don't even know whether that's a I'm assuming
that all those places you named are somewhere near his
home town where they play their football. I just it,
and it's so I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (01:31:53):
Yeah, Justin Tucker put out a statement yesterday and just
I'm not gonna read it denied it.
Speaker 11 (01:31:58):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:31:58):
Yeah, he said, the allegations in the Baltimore Banner, the
Baltimore Banner is the newspaper are uh uh, that's writing
that wrote this article. The allegations in the Baltimore Banner
article about me are unequivocally false. And then there's it's one,
two three, It's like six paragraphs along. He writes details
in there in regards I guess they tried to uh,
I guess he found out that this newspaper was going
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to be writing this article. He had his attorney reach
out to him. They had a third party that was involved,
the all kinds of different stuff and apparently allegedly these
there's allegations against him, and there's also alligator agations against
the Baltimore Banner. According to Justin Tucker and his legal
team that they tried to Basically they're trying this is
a slander piece against him.
Speaker 6 (01:32:37):
Well what did they do? We know why it would
be slander. I mean, what did he do to them
that would make them want to write the article?
Speaker 5 (01:32:45):
I don't know. So it's a local paper over there, right,
mm hmm.
Speaker 6 (01:32:50):
Well it's uh, you know, I'm sure some way, somehow
it works itself.
Speaker 5 (01:32:56):
I don't want to say, work it out me and
it'll all be you know, you.
Speaker 6 (01:32:59):
Know, everybody jants around singing kumbay ah, but ill you know,
people are going to be quick through. I don't know
who did how you judge this? I have zero, just
like who knows? But I know this. If he did that,
he's a pig. If he didn't do it, then they
ought to be punished, just like we said at the time.
All along, you know, we're sitting there going one after
the other build up in the Watson thing. Who the
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hell knows all that were involved, And you know that
was a you know, such a beatdown for everybody. I'm
sure even talking about it was a beatdown. Right in
this case, if Tucker's doing the doing it, then they
ought to they ought to take the same exact approach
the other guy got you did his and got pay
two hundred thirty million dollars right the pay raise went
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to him. So and I don't have any idea of
meaning Watson. I don't have any idea Tucker. If he
did it, then deal with him accordingly, just like you would.
Speaker 5 (01:33:51):
I mean that.
Speaker 6 (01:33:52):
If not, then they're going to delve deep into why
are they saying this? Why the paper?
Speaker 5 (01:33:56):
Why him?
Speaker 6 (01:33:57):
I listen, we're so far removed from that. I have
zero Watson was local and we you know, I have
no idea, do you? I mean, I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (01:34:05):
I just this is essentially another Deshaun Watson alligator. These
are Deshaun Watson allegations, but against Justin Tucker at a.
Speaker 5 (01:34:12):
High end place. Yeah, it's it's it's a's it's a.
Speaker 6 (01:34:17):
Shame if that they had to go through that the ladies,
if it happened, and if Justin Tucker didn't do it,
then I I I honestly think you gotta you gotta
punish accusations as much as you do, almost as much
you do, and the the the person who did you
know what I'm saying, if he didn't do them, because
that's that's putting us, you know. Then think about how
people are gonna look at him if even if it's
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not true you know what I'm saying, or false. So
I don't know if it's false, If it's real, he
and them know and deal with the good or the
bad accordingly, whatever that takes.
Speaker 4 (01:34:51):
I don't know, man, this this don't NFL teams have
missos therapists.
Speaker 6 (01:34:59):
I think at that of those facilities a bunch of
players go to. I thought I read where there's one
or two of those high end spots where they treat
other players from the Baltimore Ravens. So I don't know.
I don't know. Get that hammy, man, get that hammy,
you know, but keep shorts on while you're doing it.
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I don't have any idea.
Speaker 5 (01:35:22):
I don't either. I'm sure it's uncomfortable for them.
Speaker 6 (01:35:26):
I'm sure it's uncomfortable for him, everybody involved, and it's
it's one of those.
Speaker 5 (01:35:30):
Things like you roll your eyes like, okay again.
Speaker 4 (01:35:32):
Again, that's one of the again. Really we're about to
go through this whole thing again. Obviously we're not, because
it's not long. I mean, he is from me. He
went to Westlake High School. We went to the University
of Texas a couple of hours down the road. We're
not going to beat it down like we did for
Deshaun Watson because he's not a part of the Texans.
Speaker 5 (01:35:44):
But it's like, do it again again in any of
these cases within it.
Speaker 6 (01:35:49):
It doesn't matter what sport, what walk of life you're from.
If they did it and they find out, then whatever
that punishment is, accordingly, you put it on them and
if you and shame on him. If if if he
didn't do it, shame on the those that are accusing.
And uh, you know, sometimes the story lies somewhere in between.
I don't know, Brian, it's a it's it's it shouldn't
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be talking And because it's a story, so you talk
about it's just like nobody wants to talk about this nonsense.
Speaker 5 (01:36:14):
He didn't want to talk about it.
Speaker 6 (01:36:15):
It just and it just doesn't go away because one
after the other, and he's got to defend himself, and
he did it in six paragraphs.
Speaker 5 (01:36:21):
He probably doesn't need to write a seventh.
Speaker 6 (01:36:22):
You've defended yourself and you're gonna have to set out
there and keep trying to The more you talk about
it the more.
Speaker 5 (01:36:26):
I'm sure his attorneys are saying the same thing.
Speaker 6 (01:36:28):
And for the the ladies involved, I'm sure it's you know,
it's gonna be one of those that we won't have an.
Speaker 5 (01:36:33):
Answer anytime soon.
Speaker 6 (01:36:35):
Nine years later though, that well, that that's that's a
part a decade later. That's a part that's bothered twenty
twelve to twenty sixteen, and you're waiting until twenty twenty five. Yeah,
that that there's always that odd Why now, I don't know, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:36:47):
You know, we're talking about these you know, just allegations.
Uh Joy Taylor, she brought the girls back out?
Speaker 5 (01:36:53):
Do you see it? I don't watch that show.
Speaker 4 (01:36:55):
Yeah I don't either, but it gets on Twitter and
oh it was no like like someone posted a picture.
She said, oh you know, she let the heat go
down for two weeks and now the girls are back out,
are they? Oh yeah, dude, those those hammers are are
back out.
Speaker 5 (01:37:08):
Man, Really trying to lighten the mood.
Speaker 6 (01:37:12):
Here's hard. Yeah, well, thank you exactly. You know, a
nice segue. Now you're talking about upper body strikes.
Speaker 9 (01:37:17):
I didn't want to.
Speaker 5 (01:37:18):
I didn't want to know. There's detail, and I'm not
going to there's.
Speaker 6 (01:37:21):
Nothing good to talk about about any of those details.
Speaker 5 (01:37:23):
Joys.
Speaker 6 (01:37:24):
The details are like bad boys. Yeah, man, I haven't
seen them, but I mean I wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (01:37:32):
She's comfortable.
Speaker 6 (01:37:32):
If she's comfortable with her with her drip, how about it,
you know, whatever, whatever whatever it.
Speaker 5 (01:37:39):
Is situated drip.
Speaker 6 (01:37:42):
Who Charlie and then his name was at the exect
executive white him and they both like to drip.
Speaker 5 (01:37:49):
I loved it.
Speaker 6 (01:37:49):
Put intended. You know, I was talking about clothes, so
was I. Oh yeah, I got you, Yeah, I got you. Listen.
I I'm sure she got approval with the the attire whatever.
Speaker 5 (01:38:02):
How do you.
Speaker 6 (01:38:05):
Yeah, by the way, the Super Bowls?
Speaker 5 (01:38:09):
Actually you're ready, you're ready for your Alex pregnant up dates?
Speaker 6 (01:38:12):
Yeah yeah, I mean it's just iron we're talking.
Speaker 5 (01:38:15):
Maybe not by you have to say, oh, I know
she tuck him away. Now they're back. Is that what
the guy said? Yeah, I don't know, dude, I am no.
Speaker 6 (01:38:23):
They never they never were not on TV. So I
guess they're handling internally and they're doing their jobs and yeah,
hey they can deal with their own sex life. I
want no part of of that. Hard pass Okay, yeah,
no thanks.
Speaker 4 (01:38:36):
No man, ye no, just you know, she's what what
did what did Jason Wilock say?
Speaker 5 (01:38:41):
What was it? Peter Butter's skin, Peanu butter skin.
Speaker 6 (01:38:44):
Yeah, those big I can't remember what did he say?
Those big large something cannons, cannons, cans cans.
Speaker 5 (01:38:57):
With what man with with alright? Oh god, man for.
Speaker 6 (01:39:04):
Those folks, right, No, man. Marcellus Wiley also in.
Speaker 5 (01:39:07):
That as well. You know, hey, college hoops tonight.
Speaker 4 (01:39:12):
Yeah, man, got a big, big, big slate of games tonight,
Cornell and Dartmouth coming up at six o'clock ESPN, plus
some of the things you got to cover in sports
just flat out south man. I didn't want to read
like the stuff that I prepared to read. I was like,
I'm not reading that. I'm not reading that.
Speaker 5 (01:39:25):
It's just so, it's so cross, it is gross.
Speaker 6 (01:39:29):
So who I hope they get it all worked out
and everybody walks away and gets to move on whatever
it is that they got to work out.
Speaker 5 (01:39:37):
Otherwise, miss me with.
Speaker 4 (01:39:40):
All that time, I'm with you, man, I'm with you.
Let's get let's get ready for our Alex Braakman update.
It's a big one.
Speaker 5 (01:39:46):
Let's go. Is there a breggay bomb? I've never heard
to say that. Don't stop. What do you say that?
That's not like me, It's not like you. It's got
that top. It got you all thrown off man.
Speaker 6 (01:39:53):
Next bomb, There you go. Maybe for somebody else, blubber.
Speaker 5 (01:40:00):
We have your Alex Bregmant update. Next. Can't wait, can't
wait either, Let's talk about it.
Speaker 2 (01:40:07):
Let the celebration start.
Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
War Sean Salisbury. It's a Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 4 (01:40:14):
It's time for your long awaited Alex Bregmant update.
Speaker 5 (01:40:20):
You ready for it? You pumped? I am baited breath
and you can't wait? I I mean I am tripping.
I'm so yeah, you know into it right now? Yeah?
What you got for me?
Speaker 4 (01:40:33):
You know, I can triple Can we get a soft bed?
You know, like some kind of like just instrumental, whatever
you pick, just real quick, a soft some kind of instrumental,
I don't care. Saxophone, maybe some funky I don't know something.
This is a big one. It's a big update, and
I know everyone's pumped about it. You know, I just think,
(01:40:55):
excuse me, just think a soft bed would be great
for it. I know the Matt Thomas Show they have
like their own little liner now because they're they're they're
on the edge of their seat for they're Alex Bregman update.
Speaker 5 (01:41:10):
Whenever you gotta love a soft bed.
Speaker 16 (01:41:13):
Yeah, yeah, A twenty three on sports Soox seven ninety
Sean Salisbury Show, Sean Bryn at Tripoli.
Speaker 5 (01:41:26):
Beautiful morning here in the city of Houston. Fifty eight degrees.
Speaker 6 (01:41:30):
Son's gonna be coming out this morning for the first
time in like ten days. Let's go out for the
Alex Bregman update. Alex Bregman still a free agent.
Speaker 5 (01:41:47):
That's your update. That is your Alex Bragman update. Still
a free agent.
Speaker 4 (01:41:52):
Blue Jay is reportedly making Alex Bregman a contract offer.
Speaker 5 (01:41:56):
What amid astro stand off off? What is? What are
they offering him? We know Tampa, I mean, uh.
Speaker 6 (01:42:05):
Toronto apparently reportedly can you confirm or deny it? I
can't confirm or deny it. I'm just reading the report
that it's only a four year deal and it's for
like twenty six a year.
Speaker 5 (01:42:27):
Well, that bum you're high if he does it. No,
you don't care anymore.
Speaker 4 (01:42:30):
No, I'm just to the point. But yeah, I'm getting
to that point, man, I'm tired of it. Yeah, dude,
just signed somewhere already, you know, And if you're the
Astros like.
Speaker 6 (01:42:40):
A lot of coin, that's a lot of coin to
just sign, just sign somewhere. What if all of a
sudden there's five more mill out there? Ten more mill?
Did I read where the Toronto and somebody the Cubs
were up in their offer.
Speaker 4 (01:42:51):
That's another report that the Toronto Blue Jays are going
to up their offer to try to get him closer
to thirty mill.
Speaker 5 (01:43:04):
Toget To.
Speaker 6 (01:43:04):
Now that's a hell of a negotiation job by Boris
to wait it out that long and still.
Speaker 5 (01:43:08):
Get thirty million. Yeah, let's see, it's a hell of
a negotiation. Excuse me.
Speaker 4 (01:43:12):
Also, something something along the lines of the Cubs also
getting the Frey. Cubs and Blue Jays could be with
these deals, could be offering a couple opt outs, just
like Cody Bellinger.
Speaker 5 (01:43:29):
Who else? Blake Snell? I've never understood it. Okay, what's
the Let me ask you this.
Speaker 6 (01:43:35):
I know the advantage of I mean I know the answer,
but just kind of rhetorical question. What's the advantage of
opt outs? Well, you tell the guy you're giving him
basically making him a free agent.
Speaker 5 (01:43:52):
Ay, whether it's one or two.
Speaker 6 (01:43:53):
Years, what's the advantage for the team, there's only one
if the guy sucked the year you have him.
Speaker 5 (01:44:03):
And the opt out.
Speaker 6 (01:44:05):
Those opt outs go both ways, that they can move
on from him as well.
Speaker 5 (01:44:08):
Or is it just.
Speaker 4 (01:44:10):
Because if it did they like, I mean, you can
get that, But yeah, I think it's a option.
Speaker 6 (01:44:15):
So what I'm saying is, Okay, what that's the old
what's what's the event? That's the only advantage if you're
a team saying, well, I signed a guy who a
four or five year deal. We gave him a one
year you know, first year opt out, and he went
and hit one ninety eight, where you're like, I got
to get out of this thing, right, I don't want
this guy anymore. Right, Other than that, doesn't everything favor
the player? Yes? So why I don't know why do
(01:44:40):
teams do this? Well, because you're dealing with the age.
That's the only way you'll get them, and that's the
only way you'll lose them if they perform well, because
more than likely, a lot of times when they go
out there and kick ass, it becomes a bidding war
and they end up going somewhere else.
Speaker 5 (01:44:53):
A lot of times.
Speaker 6 (01:44:55):
I don't get it. To me, it is it is
a deal breaker. If I'm an I will never I
would never give anybody an opt out. No, I'm basically
bringing a good player in only to tell him you
come here and kick ass, and I'm gonna bridge you
to your next place.
Speaker 5 (01:45:09):
No, sorry, What does that do for your franchise? Yeah? Exactly.
Speaker 6 (01:45:15):
You know what it tells me. It tells me that
you're you're just you, You're you're operating out of fear.
Speaker 5 (01:45:19):
Right.
Speaker 6 (01:45:20):
Oh well, we don't want to piss him off. We
can't got to give an opt out. Screw pissing him
off or any other guy off. Here's here's where your
guarantee is.
Speaker 5 (01:45:26):
Dude. It's in the tune.
Speaker 6 (01:45:28):
Whether it's Alex Bregman or anybody else, it's to the
tune of one hundred and sixty five or hundred and
fifty six or hundred and seventy million, whatever it is.
You get that that that that's what you get. Why
would I give you an opt out from that when
I'm paying it to you. That's yours, that's your security blanket.
You don't get to come here, play like an MVP
and then turn around and leave on us.
Speaker 5 (01:45:46):
But you do.
Speaker 6 (01:45:46):
If I'm dumb enough to give you an opt out
if if you're don Alvarez wanted an opt out after
I signed a contract and want an opt out after
one year and he got a new contract, I would I.
Speaker 5 (01:45:56):
Wouldn't do it. I wouldn't either. I would not do it.
Speaker 6 (01:46:00):
I'm basically saying, I'm encouraging you just come have another
great year with me, and then you go do whatever
you want to. Yeah, and I'm going to bank on
the fact that you love me enough that you'll take
a hometown discount. Oh hell no, I mean I wouldn't
do it, just like I wouldn't give an NFL quarterback
at any point in time a no trade class.
Speaker 5 (01:46:18):
Yeah, you're not hampering my franchise.
Speaker 6 (01:46:21):
Your no trade class comes at the tune of fifty
five friggin million a year and one hundred and fifty
million guaranteed.
Speaker 5 (01:46:27):
That's your note, that's your no trade class.
Speaker 6 (01:46:30):
But three years in, if you're not playing well or
if we think there's a better situation, just like when
you're a free agent you think there's a better situation,
you having a no trade clause, you don't get to
dictate where.
Speaker 5 (01:46:41):
I'm sending somebody.
Speaker 6 (01:46:42):
Yeah, never ever, never, ever, never, never, And I don't
care if it's Shoe Tony, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes and
Willie Mays. You ain't getting a no trade clause, and
you're sure as hell not getting an opt out to
go benefit after I've created a situation and gave you
the offer you wanted. You came in're gonna turn around
to leave after a one year opt out? No middle finger, buddy,
(01:47:04):
you ain't getting any of it. And if I miss
out on you, you know what, every player I've ever known, there's.
Speaker 5 (01:47:11):
Always somebody else who comes along with this good. Hey
c J.
Speaker 6 (01:47:14):
Stroud last year, that's the greatest rookie ever, and he
had a great year. This is the best rookie heear ever.
Do you know who had a better.
Speaker 5 (01:47:21):
Year this year?
Speaker 6 (01:47:22):
Jaden Daniels took him further, had a better year. Not
saying he's better, he had a better year. So they
come around a lot, a lot more than.
Speaker 5 (01:47:30):
We think now.
Speaker 6 (01:47:32):
Generational Which generational come along that every ten years that's
so overrated? These Well, you want me to name eighteen
players in the NBA who are generational players that came
year after year after year. Every year there's a guy
who's that's generational player. That's Tom Brady went a generational player.
Tell he did what became one and won a bunch
superow rings. So for me, you can you can. Well,
(01:47:56):
that's why you'd never be a gym. I'll guarant asked
to you, I'd still get people to play for me.
There's no there's no way you don't get to leave.
That's why I brought you here. I'd like you to stay.
And if it doesn't work out on our end, because
we you hit two twenty and weren't very good for
four years, guess what. It's the chance we took, just
like it's a chance you're taking with us. But if
(01:48:18):
you think you're bolting after a year, after a good season, nah,
that's why all that money is guaranteed. And if it's guaranteed, brother,
you ain't leaving on Meney.
Speaker 5 (01:48:29):
I'm the owner.
Speaker 6 (01:48:29):
I get to control that you don't. And if you
want to go somewhere else, I'll find another player. Yeah,
there there's always another player. Maybe take it a little
longer to find him, but there's going to be somebody
else who comes along that Actually you were we were
all prayed with what's going to happen and who's the catcher?
Yerd has proved he's pretty good. Yeah, so and you
and you can move on from Kyle Tucker train and
(01:48:53):
get some player. So you assume you can. Things are
going to be fine moving on, right the game goes?
The game is a little bit bigger than the player.
Speaker 4 (01:49:00):
Yeah, like usually is seven one, three, two point two
five seven ninety is the number to join the show? Uh,
there was a free agent that the Astros were heavily pursuing,
but he is now signed with another team.
Speaker 5 (01:49:12):
What does that mean for the team that's next?
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Speaker 5 (01:49:57):
Yeah, yeah, there you go. Yeah, it makes sense, that
makes sense. That is yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:50:02):
Seven one, three, two, two five, seven ninety is the
number to join. Got a couple guys want to talk
about Alex Bregman JW.
Speaker 5 (01:50:08):
What's up?
Speaker 13 (01:50:09):
Hey, guys?
Speaker 5 (01:50:10):
How are you doing? Terrible war here?
Speaker 13 (01:50:13):
You know, I'm I've just about come to the conclusion
that if they ever did bring Bregman back, he wouldn't
be a fit anymore. I Mean, you can only push
people that way, that wrong way so long. And my
opinion of it is Boris has really been doing a
(01:50:33):
dishonor to him. And I take my head off to
Dana Brown because he sees exactly what's going on.
Speaker 5 (01:50:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 12 (01:50:42):
J W.
Speaker 5 (01:50:42):
Yeah, interesting point.
Speaker 6 (01:50:44):
I wonder if, like we've we've talked about, is the
when coming back feel like do you have to beg
your way back? Would it feel like it? Which I
don't think you do. I know, I'm just saying the
optics of it. They obviously like him, right, the question
you love him enough to raise this out you bring
him back, or the years to get him here. I'm
just I almost feel like people are tired of it.
(01:51:05):
That's what that was gonna be my next question for
our listeners. It's gone on so long it's almost like, Okay,
if we lose him, which is which is you don't
want to get caught and thinking that way. But there's
some fatigue that goes with it. Yeah, there just is.
And so I'm anxious to see how he handles this. Man, Yeah,
(01:51:26):
really worry into I really really am, But I'm I
am I'm I want to talk about the season coming up,
not about when he's gonna put his name on a
piece of paper. What kind of sees you We're we're
at the point now where it's now starting to focus
on what the lineup is going to look like, who's healthy,
and the rest of it. And you're also sitting there
and pray this is like, oh am I playing second?
Am I playing third? What am I doing? It just
becomes you know, you want to get people mentally tuned
(01:51:47):
in as well.
Speaker 4 (01:51:49):
Seven three two two five seven ninety Adrian, Good morning,
what's happening?
Speaker 5 (01:51:57):
Oh man? Oh man?
Speaker 7 (01:51:59):
I'm last night's basketball game Rockets. You had a lead
in the fourth quarter, you gave it up. I understand
the home momentum and all this. The only thing I
disagree with was the last play. I'm sorry, Dylan, I
love you, but I'm going to jailing in that instance
because he can get to the hoop anytime he wants.
If not, he don't take the harm and probably everything else.
Speaker 5 (01:52:22):
Ah Alex bregnant.
Speaker 7 (01:52:24):
You wanna come back here, Sean. You know the paperwork
better than any anybody that comes on the radio.
Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
You know the ins and outs.
Speaker 7 (01:52:33):
I don't know if this is legal, but I would
tell him, Okay, you want thirty million, I'm gonna guarantee
you five years, twenty five million year. But to get
to your thirty there's incentives. You're gonna back this much average.
You don't make it, there goes a million. You're gonna
(01:52:55):
play this many games in the incent go we get
to the playoffs. Here's another incentives if you're back blah
blah blah. If you win gogl silver glove, you know
what I mean. On and on and on with the incentives.
But you start at twenty five, thirty is on you.
You in the season with twenty eight and a half.
Speaker 5 (01:53:16):
That's what you're earned.
Speaker 7 (01:53:18):
Have a good weekend, fellas the rest of the world,
calm down and.
Speaker 8 (01:53:21):
Have some peace.
Speaker 5 (01:53:23):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (01:53:25):
I have no problem loading contracts with incentives play one
hundred and fifty games, you get this, make the All
Star team, you get this, and say I have no problem.
Which you give him, you know, your twenty six to
five or whatever it is he wants. And then all
of a sudden you say, there's a chance in this
contract to make five million more. You know, home run
(01:53:46):
marks all that if if you load it and then
there's it's listen, we bribe kids all the time with
a candy bar, right, yeah, bribe the player and not
to the point were we say you got hit seventy
home runs to get your two hundred and fifty green
You know what I'm saying, incentive of wanting to play
every day, which I think he does anyway, but you know,
the focus on staying healthy, all those things. You can
(01:54:08):
get him what he would what everybody else, what the
going rate is, and give him a chance by production.
I've never understood why we go away from that so much.
Where the bonuses Sometimes if Mahomes makes the Pro Bowl,
once he get two hundred and fifty, you know what
I'm saying, he's going to make the Pro Bowl if
he wants to. This year he didn't. But you know
what I'm saying, those good plays but reachable, but also
that you got to you got to extend yourself a
(01:54:28):
little go get him, you know, and in the in
in the cbas usually like they couldn't come up and say, Sean,
if you threw for four hundred yards in the season,
you get a million dollar bonus. That that does that
there's that they're going to look into that, right, it's
too easy. But if you if you make incentives and
players want the guarantee, that's just it. But I wonder
(01:54:49):
at what point in sports, as these contracts continue to
go and we got now Juan Soto making what's seven
hundred million, seven fifty fifty, we're pushing a billion dollars,
I wonder what happens if at some point in time,
and I know it would be collusion, but owners get
(01:55:09):
together and say less money, more incentive, pay them a lot.
But in order to get to that next level, you're
gonna have to earn ten million dollars in incentives to
get you know. But then again, you say seven hundred
and fifty, say you're only paying them seven hundred million.
Speaker 5 (01:55:25):
It's absurd to talk about. But when does it stop?
Speaker 4 (01:55:29):
Well, with teams like the Dodgers, I don't think it'll
ever stop.
Speaker 6 (01:55:32):
I understand, but there's got to be a point in
time when you price everybody out of a seat. I
want players to get paid. I love it all, but
when does it stop? I would think about the absurdity
of a billion dollar player, who if you weren't offering money,
most of us would go play for one hundred grand
just to be in front of fans and play, and
(01:55:54):
I listen, reward them because that's what the structure says.
But when does the structure collapse? How can baseball continue
to be competitive with teams that don't want to get
over the threshold, but owners that maybe have more money
or got money and they're willing to spend it. They
it takes money to make money. Yeah, and they went
and bought a championship. They got great players, but those
players still had to earn it. So for me, it's
(01:56:17):
if you got to want to spend it, fine, but
where where where's the where's this ceiling? Where's the endgame?
Where's the salary cap?
Speaker 5 (01:56:23):
Where's the now? I also think with the ceiling. You
need to have a floor.
Speaker 6 (01:56:27):
You've got to force teams to say, you've got to
rereacher within a certain amount your salary cap limb. You
know what I'm saying that you so owners don't. That's
that collusion of let's lowball them and bring the curve down,
and then everybody's like, well, listen, look at the difference
between the haves and the have nots. Part of the
reasons that haves the have nots don't have. I know
they're in different markets, but they're not willing to even
(01:56:48):
spend up to you know, the salary cap level. Right
in football, some aren't. They're they're trying to milk every
dollar out of it. So when does it for? Once again,
the feed the seat at the table that you never
get is a fan. Hey, you're gonna spend this on
a on a on on tickets whether you like it
or not, because somebody else will if you don't. And
then you go back to our guy in the basketball
(01:57:09):
Phoenix Sun's owner decided, you know, with the with the
cheaper oh.
Speaker 5 (01:57:13):
Yeah, the cheaper food and hot dogs and beers.
Speaker 6 (01:57:15):
Yeah, you know what I think, Well, well, maybe small
to some to the fan that ain't small.
Speaker 5 (01:57:20):
That's frigging huge. Yeah, considering the money you spend.
Speaker 6 (01:57:23):
Yes, So most people during the regular season are people
that love hoops, want to go and try to get tickets.
Most people in postseason and Super Bowl and championships, it's
corporate America with all the big money because the tickets
cost more.
Speaker 4 (01:57:35):
You know, And I for the most part, I always
think about it in baseball, like, look at the small
market teams, like how are they going to be able
to survive? Tampa Bay Rays, Miami Marlins, Pittsburgh Pirates, Brewers Reds,
Like look at these smaller market teams that don't spend money,
Washington Nationals, Colorado Rockets. I know, the National time before before,
(01:57:55):
but they haven't done it in a while.
Speaker 5 (01:57:57):
Then they're going to spend to a certain point.
Speaker 6 (01:57:59):
I hope the team will overachieves the athletics and and
you get they hope the team over achieves and you're
making more money at the box office, I mean at
that the at this you know, ballpark or the stadium,
because they overachieved and they got it, which will continue
to make you say I don't have to pay the
kind of money they're paying, or at least in listen.
For some just getting to the playoffs because it's profitable,
(01:58:21):
they're okay with that.
Speaker 5 (01:58:22):
I'm talking about some ownership.
Speaker 6 (01:58:23):
They they star they've made sports is like it was
it was a hobby. It gave them a chance to
own a team. And with all the money they make,
and I want to say hobby some of them, it
is a hobby. Now it's a big business if in
some cases, but they most of them have made money
doing something else.
Speaker 5 (01:58:37):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 6 (01:58:38):
And they're all going to make money when they sell
their franchises because the value keeps going up. But for
some just making the playoffs, you say, why aren't this
team spending?
Speaker 5 (01:58:47):
They're hoping.
Speaker 6 (01:58:47):
There are guys that they just that they haven't paid
as much to overachieve and they make the playoffs and
some for some that's good enough.
Speaker 5 (01:58:55):
And what happens though, when.
Speaker 6 (01:58:56):
When a small market team with a small payroll wins
the World Series or a championship, Guess what happens? Now
that's all you've now they don't spend more. They're like,
we did this by not spending, they're not changing our philosophy.
So even when you win, the fans and the players,
if you want to go play in Cincinnati, You're not
gonna get the same amount of money. And so that's
(01:59:17):
why they keep flocking to the Big five or six
every year, and then the leftovers are going elsewhere.
Speaker 5 (01:59:23):
Right. I don't know the answer to to like the
floor and the ceiling, but.
Speaker 6 (01:59:30):
I do make them spend to the cow salary cap
limit within a certain amount of money, and then the
top level that they gotta They gotta be geniuses and
mastering the money and the capologist. Damn right, I don't
understand why baseball doesn't have one. Yeah, why don't they?
It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, because the Dodgers.
Until you put one on them, they don't mind that.
I know, the luxury type, but that's not a sour
(01:59:51):
cap the only but that ring means everything to those Dodgers.
And guess what, because they're Dodgers, they'll make plenty of
money in their marketing and all the things they do.
But still you think they're gonna quit spend it. No,
you saw what they did this off season. They win
a World Series and they're still spending. Okay, us the
Reds win a World Series and guess what they're not
gonna do. They're not gonna spend of course. Yeah, the
guy that they need to keep is gonna get away
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Speaker 1 (02:02:18):
Back to the Sean Salisbury show on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 6 (02:02:24):
Let's get out and talk to some peeps, and let's
start with Holly Holly, what's going on?
Speaker 5 (02:02:28):
How are you good?
Speaker 19 (02:02:30):
Good friddy?
Speaker 11 (02:02:30):
Sean?
Speaker 13 (02:02:30):
How you doing?
Speaker 5 (02:02:31):
I'm doing great? Thank you you too.
Speaker 19 (02:02:33):
I have got big time bregnant fatigue. He's playing with
our emotions. Man, make a decision already. Tomorrow's February the
first get together. I think Boris has done him a
big disservice by presenting bigger than the market is, and
Alex just needs to understand that that that market's not there.
I mean, if he had a contract that he wanted
(02:02:56):
that was worth at thirty million, he had been signed
by now. So I really think to ask us how
it can petitive offer and if he wants to come back,
come back, if not to Hunt's Morris February first, he
needs to make a decision and he needs to put
plan with our emotions. Joe and ban I can't even
prepare properly for spring training because they don't know who
it's going to be on their roster.
Speaker 6 (02:03:13):
Good point now and and and the fact that you're
it's also becomes an astros problem if you allow him
to hold you hostage right without making a decision yourself
correct at some point time, you got to you got you.
You got to make a decision both ways.
Speaker 19 (02:03:27):
That and handcuffs the other young players who are going
to compete for a spot in print spring training.
Speaker 5 (02:03:32):
Right.
Speaker 6 (02:03:32):
And if if a guy like Paradus is on my plan, third,
am I planing second? And I gotta get I gotta
get ready to play both And i'd chuer like to
know what my position is. Let me ask you this, Hollywood.
You if this goes on for another week and at
the end he goes somewhere else for the same price,
will you root for him.
Speaker 19 (02:03:49):
I'll root for him, but I'll be highly.
Speaker 5 (02:03:50):
Disappointed, fair enough.
Speaker 19 (02:03:52):
I mean, if he goes somewhere for the same price,
I would be very disappointed. And I'll the talk of
you know, being a team player, I mean him not
listening what else Tubing has done?
Speaker 1 (02:04:04):
Who does that?
Speaker 19 (02:04:05):
I mean it would show me that he just didn't
really care about or didn't want to come back to
begin with. And I'll root for him. I'll rote form
where ever he goes.
Speaker 13 (02:04:11):
I'm a root for.
Speaker 19 (02:04:12):
Tucker, I root for George, I root for Carlos. Y
made a big part of this team in the city,
but I'll be highly disappointed if he does that.
Speaker 6 (02:04:20):
It's a great point and they have been a big
part of championships and great memories for people here. And
I'm not sure where it's going to go. But yeah,
the fatigue continues. Hollly, great stuff. I hope you have
a great weekend. We'll look forward to talking next week.
Speaker 5 (02:04:32):
Thank you. Let's get out to John, Johnny, what's up man?
How you doing, budd Hey.
Speaker 8 (02:04:36):
Man, I hope we have a good weekend.
Speaker 5 (02:04:38):
First out, Yeah, all of us. I'm with you. Thankes Hey.
Speaker 8 (02:04:43):
What you were talking about regarding, you know, the Dodgers
and their wild spending and everything. My question is, I
don't know what the astro salary level was in twenty
seventeen when they won the World Series. But again, this
is why I keep harping on that they have to
return learned to their original formula, you know, with the
(02:05:03):
old fashioned scouting, with the modern metrics and all that,
and what Luno was doing, because we we were effectively
competing with I mean we won the World Series. We
won two World Series actually, and we didn't spend wildly.
I mean, we invested in the in the farm system,
we brought along some players. We would bring a player
(02:05:23):
like we did with Verlander. But that worked out well
for us, and I think we got to stick with
that formula because that's what was working. You're not going
to outspend these guys. And I think we kind of
lost our way a little bit in recent years. But
I think we just got to return to that what
we were doing before and just again just relying that
old fashion scouting and using the metrics and getting back
(02:05:46):
to what worked and what brought us championships.
Speaker 6 (02:05:49):
It's a great point, Johnny. Let me ask you the
same thing I asked Holly one. Will you root for
Bregman if he leaves for the same money?
Speaker 8 (02:06:00):
Not really, you know, I mean, I'm gonna root for
the Astros. I'm gonna root for the Astros.
Speaker 5 (02:06:05):
Really.
Speaker 8 (02:06:05):
I mean I think, uh, I think, you know, I
agree with what Holly said. I think, you know, Bregman
did get some bad advice. I think these uh you know,
agents say, oh, I can do do better for you.
And all that. And that's why I said that one
time when I called in. I respect some of these
players that negotiate their own contract and leave the agents out,
and I wish, you know, there should be more of that,
(02:06:26):
because I think they get I think, you know, Bregman's
an example, but I think there's several examples where uh
players get in trouble and uh I uh, I don't know.
I think I think the players, if they could be
if they can negotiate and have a little faith in themselves,
and you know, if they have a contract, take it
to a lawyer or somebody that knows what they're doing.
Speaker 5 (02:06:45):
And yeah, hey, John, before I let you go. You
know what's interesting.
Speaker 6 (02:06:51):
One thing I know about players when they're talking their agents,
no player in the history, none of us, ever low Baldar.
Speaker 5 (02:07:00):
You know, we always think they're worth more than we are. Right.
Speaker 6 (02:07:03):
Somebody offered a million, well that means I'm worth one
point five. Somebody offered ten million, I'm worth twelve. I mean,
it's true, and I tell you it cost me one
that I've told you that situation, Brian, but it did, John.
Speaker 5 (02:07:14):
It's true.
Speaker 6 (02:07:15):
I mean, in this case, there's no way Bregman's going
and saying, yeah, I'm worth twenty five, I'm worth twenty six.
He thinks he's worth thirty five, right, And the players
always overestimate their value, and in some cases maybe they don't.
Maybe Sodo didn't think he was getting seven hundred and fifty.
But for the most part, rarely will the guy come
in saying, yeah, I only deserve that, not more than that.
Speaker 5 (02:07:35):
Right, That's the way it is.
Speaker 8 (02:07:36):
Yeah, well, I mean those agers know what they're doing.
Speaker 5 (02:07:38):
They're playing to their ego, of course, of course, and.
Speaker 8 (02:07:41):
Those guys, as guys have an ego, they say, hey,
you know you're worth more than that. Come on, you know,
let me take care of it.
Speaker 6 (02:07:47):
The problem is the problem is when the ego doesn't
match the owner on the other team saying you only
don't quite think you're worth that, so so you better
set And then the ego gets more bruised, and then
you go play somewhere else, and in the end you think, like,
right now, I think wouldn't have George Springer rather stayed
what carlos Quay would rather stayed. I mean, I don't know,
(02:08:07):
maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they love it and it's fine,
but there's a part of me that thinks I'm just
using those two as example that maybe they would have
rather been here, And I wonder if Bregman will go
through the same thing.
Speaker 8 (02:08:18):
Korea got a good offer, Oh yeah, yeah, what's three
five million years?
Speaker 5 (02:08:22):
He should have stuck with that.
Speaker 8 (02:08:23):
He's not getting that and he would have been set
for what was it six years?
Speaker 11 (02:08:27):
I think it was.
Speaker 8 (02:08:28):
He had a he had a heck of an offer.
That was a good offer, and he should have taken it.
Speaker 6 (02:08:32):
Yeah, that that ten year security and he never got
it right. And now you gotta go play and get
it back again. Yeah, John, great point, man. We got
to get to the top of the hour. Have a
great weekend.
Speaker 5 (02:08:40):
I'm sure we'll talk to you a bunch next week
for Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (02:08:43):
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Your Rockets fall to the Grizzlies last night, Alprin Shingoon
making his first NBA All Star team in his career.
Texan's continuing the interview process for offensive coordinators talking about
the Astros and Alex Bregman. Oh, Bob Nightingale not to
(02:10:14):
be confused with the East Coast Nightingales.
Speaker 5 (02:10:20):
Not to be concerned with Florence Nightingale.
Speaker 6 (02:10:23):
Right him as well? She as well? Yeah, not him,
that would be That's cool though. Who's counting though?
Speaker 5 (02:10:28):
Yeah? Who cares? Yeah exactly.
Speaker 4 (02:10:31):
Bob Nightingale, he is a USA Today Major League Baseball columnists. Uh,
he's been doing it for forever, tweeted out a couple
minutes ago. While it seems almost inevitable that Pete alons
overturns of the Mets, the Detroit Tigers in Boston, Red
Sox now loom Is co favorites for Alex Bregman with
no movement in Astros talks.
Speaker 5 (02:10:54):
I'm about fatigued. Oubt, brother, I'm out of it, man,
move on.
Speaker 6 (02:10:58):
The only reason I'm not fatigued that if he leaves
here there is hope for my bow socks.
Speaker 5 (02:11:07):
And that way, dude, that's going to go. Go there.
Speaker 6 (02:11:13):
If you're gonna leave, go there, go there right. Any
other reason is root for you there. If you're going
to leave the Astros, go to Boston. Let's see on
I tweeted this out hold let me find it. I
would really like that point. I mean, I don't want
him to leave here. Do not misunderstand me. But if
he is going to leave and decides that Boston offered
him more, go there or Boston Detroit offer more.
Speaker 5 (02:11:33):
Choose Boston. Let's let's choose Boston. Where is that?
Speaker 2 (02:11:37):
Damn?
Speaker 5 (02:11:39):
I'll find it.
Speaker 6 (02:11:39):
But yeah, if it's not the Astros, yeah, why not.
M I don't have any ties to clear to Detroit.
I don't need him in Detroit. Could care less what
he does there. I just I think could use him
in Boston. I think it's.
Speaker 4 (02:11:54):
Funny that that you've heard really nothing in regards to
the Red Sox or Tigers in a couple of weeks,
and then out of nowhere, bam, Bob Nightingale bringing it,
bringing it in, bringing it in with the Red Sox and.
Speaker 6 (02:12:12):
Detroit Tigers. And go figure who manages the Detroit Tigers.
Speaker 5 (02:12:18):
A guy named the guy.
Speaker 6 (02:12:20):
Well, he's hitching closer to Detroit to say, j hinch
till you give him a hinch.
Speaker 4 (02:12:24):
He takes, he'll take a while. And then who's the
head coach? And not head coach, who's the manager of
the Boston Red Sox. Uh Alex Horra some some people
know it's only Hondro.
Speaker 5 (02:12:40):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (02:12:43):
Have it in here somewhere, man, gosh dang, and I'll
find it. But I tweeted it out, went okay, here
we go. This was on December ninth. We talked about
this situation, and uh, basically I tweeted out that, uh,
we bet that the Red Sox would sign Alex Bregman. Right,
So we'll see, man, we'll see if that comes true.
(02:13:04):
I'm over it, honestly, I'm so over it.
Speaker 5 (02:13:05):
You're tired of it. Okay, are you going to root
for him? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:13:08):
I always will. I know him on a personal level.
So Alex Bregman the player, absolutely, Alex Bregman the person same.
Speaker 5 (02:13:15):
Yeah, I don't have a problem with it. It's been well.
Speaker 6 (02:13:17):
It may sting and Holly makes a good points that
she said, all root for him to do well, but
I'll be disappointed if I because I pose the scenario
that I know you're on a call if they if
he left for the same amount of money, and Holly said,
I'd be disappointed. But of course I'm gonna root for him,
just like she does for Spring and the rest. It's
not personal, No, it's not personally. I can't understand why
(02:13:38):
people's feelings may be hurt him. It's gonna be come
back here. It'll hurt some feelings. It's gonna piss off
a lot of people. I can tell you that or
some feelings when it happens.
Speaker 4 (02:13:45):
If he signs for twenty six, twenty seven, even twenty
eight million a year, people are gonna be pissed.
Speaker 6 (02:13:50):
It's gonna be three tiered. Yeah, you're gonna get the screw.
Alex Bregman don't need him anymore. You're gonna get the
what a bummer? Why didn't we raise the price? We
need Alex Bragg? And then you're gonna get I hope
he does well, he did great, Thanks for us, good luck,
but we're ready to move on.
Speaker 5 (02:14:05):
You're gonna get the it's.
Speaker 6 (02:14:06):
Gonna be one of those and the ones that are
pissed are gonna be pissed. The ones that are hurt
feelings are hurt, but wish him well, moving on, and
then you're gonna get the why didn't we raise the offer?
Alls we need to do is raise it a million
and a half bucks a year and we could have
had him. You'll get that too, depending on what the
offer from another team comes in at.
Speaker 4 (02:14:22):
If he leaves, Yeah, people are gonna be pissed at Bregmant.
People will be pissed at Jim Crane and Dana Brown.
Speaker 6 (02:14:26):
People are gonna be pissed at Boris Oh, no debt
that they're gonna be pissed, no question.
Speaker 4 (02:14:30):
If he signs for twenty six, twenty seven. I even
say if he signs for two more milli year, people
are gonna be pissed.
Speaker 6 (02:14:37):
And you'll get more people if he gets to thirty.
The I can't blame him, Yeah, exactly right. Yeah, you sure,
but you'll still get some well wins enough enough, you
know you're gonna they'll just be different layers. And it's
not like I said, I'll never It's never to the
point where I'm mad at a guy for going and
getting paid and there's a reason he hasn't signed because
he feels like he's worth more. Whether it's him and
(02:14:57):
Boris or Boris or him or both of them together.
Then oh well, but it's the same that you know,
we want to speed it up, but if it was
our own negotiations, we want what's right or what we
think we're right. Right, So I get it both sides. Yeah,
I'm just I'm not going to be depended by it.
I'd be, but like Holly'd be a little disappointed for
us for the same price, Like why wouldn't you come
(02:15:18):
back a better chance to win?
Speaker 4 (02:15:19):
You think, right, You've had jose Al Tuvey pining for
you to come back. You've had Jeremy Paeney, he talked
with us at Fanfesty talk about what he means to
the organization. When he meant to Jeremy Painey himself I mean, yeah,
I'll be disappointed, but at the end of the day, look, man,
these players are human, they're normal people.
Speaker 5 (02:15:37):
You were a professional athlete.
Speaker 4 (02:15:38):
At the end of the day, it's business and they
feel you as a player, are going to do what
you feel like is best for you.
Speaker 6 (02:15:44):
I never hated the teammate for holding out for more
money or leaving for more money. I have no time ever, ever, never,
Just like I didn't dislike a teammate who transferred because
he wasn't getting an opportunity to play.
Speaker 5 (02:15:59):
Now, he transferred for now.
Speaker 6 (02:16:01):
If he was lazy at three different places and didn't
work and kept transferring just because it was on him,
then a different story. Why don't we get mad at that? Right,
it's sports. It's a small I mean, it's a big
portion of our life. But it's a well the career's great.
They don't last that long now, Tom Brady, that's rare, right,
those guys that play into their forties. Nolan Ryan, that's
(02:16:22):
that's not normal. The majority, I mean, you get your tenure.
If you're fortunate, then well the majority of them are
out by three years. In my sport, in football, but
it's you know, you, it's a spec you know, a
piece of sand and the speck of your life. So
I don't blame them for wanting to go get paid
to secure their bag for the rest of their life
if they're wise, right, So because we'd all we'd all
(02:16:45):
in truth.
Speaker 5 (02:16:45):
We would we would do the same thing exactly when
we're negotiating. We all do.
Speaker 6 (02:16:49):
When you get offended, if you feel like you've been
low balled, and you get excited, if it's there's more
money elsewhere, and sometimes a change of venue or change
of place scenery.
Speaker 5 (02:16:57):
Yeah, revitalizes you.
Speaker 6 (02:16:59):
Yeah, and that may also be hard for people in
Houston to understand to take maybe just maybe not just
maybe it's money and maybe Fenway Park gets him, you know,
back to that he can't wait, that he's always wanted
to play it. Who knows, right, but we can't. Well,
some will be, but it's not personal, man, No, it's
not personal. They offered the most money he'd be here.
Speaker 5 (02:17:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:17:21):
Well, I'm telling you though, man, Oh, you know, I
know it's gonna they're gonna go.
Speaker 4 (02:17:24):
Off when he signs for twenty seven million year in
Boston or Detroit. Those phone lines are gonna be hitting
like crack. Oh yeah, it's gonna be people are gonna
be fist.
Speaker 6 (02:17:35):
Yeah, they're gonna be mad, but they're also the problem
with it. The longer this takes, the madness is gonna
get replaced by finally, just get over finally. Yeah, you're
gonna lose that. Some of it's just gonna be okay,
you know what's happening. All he did was delay it,
and this is this sucks okay, But and then you
get back to saying, okay, what are we gonna do now?
And then his name will come up in the fall.
(02:17:55):
If all of a sudden, Paradus is playing out of
his mind, says yep, wise move. If he's hitting one
eighty seven, people are gonna be pissed, and Bregman's raking
somewhere else. It's just the way it goes. And there's
a risk always involved in whether you let a guy
go or not. Right, go get the bag man, I
don't yeah, I don't hate until and you never go
broke taking a profit. A wise man once told me
that he's a pretty wise guy. Yeah, well, we don't
(02:18:18):
want to be a wise guy. Wise man, wise man,
big difference wise guy. Yeah, well, what he is doing
your wise guy. Yeah, you like your neat cats?
Speaker 5 (02:18:27):
Make me? What make me a lover? Get review? There
you go, that's why do you gotta jut your jaw?
Speaker 6 (02:18:32):
That's a Marlon Brando by the way. You know, Yeah,
you ever seen the movie? About one hundred and fifty times.
Speaker 4 (02:18:39):
I did see they they previewed, not a preview, but
they put out a a Twitter, a tweet.
Speaker 6 (02:18:46):
Denniee's three told you we ain't done yet. Then the
way it ended, you got to keep moving. Yeah, that's
a movie which ones you like better? Oh, you haven't
seen this one?
Speaker 8 (02:18:58):
Now?
Speaker 5 (02:18:59):
I haven't seen you. No, man, dude, you.
Speaker 4 (02:19:01):
Never even told me about the final two episodes of
Landman loved him good, wasn't it?
Speaker 5 (02:19:06):
Loved Him? I did too.
Speaker 6 (02:19:07):
I told you Jerry was well, I know the Jerry Jones,
but I'm sorry. Yeah, buddy, what Andy Garcia in it?
Speaker 5 (02:19:15):
Come on, dog man?
Speaker 6 (02:19:17):
What's going on with our guy? John Hamm? He gone,
we don't know. We're not sure yet. They left you wondering,
did or d Yeah, it looks like Demy's gonna have
a little bit more power in the show Man.
Speaker 4 (02:19:29):
I would like to see more Demi Moore and I
would like to see more. Andy Garcia, you will yeah,
and and just keep you now. I can never get
enough of Bill Bob Thornton. He's great.
Speaker 6 (02:19:39):
I loved it, man, you kidding me? Yeah, it was awesome.
All right, let's get to break here on seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (02:19:45):
The Salisbury Show continues per Aaron Wilson.
Speaker 5 (02:19:50):
We like to call him.
Speaker 4 (02:19:51):
He will depending on who the Textans hired. Offensive coordinator
Cole Popovich is the top candidate to be promoted to
offensive line coach Papa, which is well respected around the league.
Speaker 5 (02:20:01):
If the Texans hire him internally at OH.
Speaker 4 (02:20:04):
If the Texans hire internally at OC, Popovich is going
to be promoted, and there there's your Texans offensive If.
Speaker 6 (02:20:15):
They hire the coordinator internally, offensive line coach internally know
if they hire the o C internally. So somebody in
the building has already said they're going to elevate him.
Torre's coming from. So it's either it's either. If it's
one of those two, it's either Bill d Azer or
Dugg Johnson.
Speaker 5 (02:20:32):
There you go, shut the show down. We're ready to go.
Speaker 6 (02:20:34):
Let me ask you another thing. Let's say you're you're
a boss in a oil and gas situation. Take it
out of sports and somebody waltz is in and you've
got ten interviews scheduled over the course of two weeks,
and one walks in and blows you away, and you
(02:20:55):
love them.
Speaker 5 (02:20:56):
You're cutting off interviews and you've done. Can I can
I take that from oil and gas and put it
in when I was searching for a home. Yeah, or
searching for a home, put it into sports. I don't care.
Speaker 6 (02:21:10):
You're interviewing and somebody comes in at and gives and
by the when it's over and they walk out.
Speaker 5 (02:21:15):
You are floored.
Speaker 4 (02:21:16):
So when I bought my house, my second home, I
visited probably nine ten different houses, ranging from built in
the nineties to new construction. First one I went and
saw is the one that I eventually bought. I fell
in love with that house as soon as I walked
in there. But I knew that I needed to go
(02:21:38):
do my due diligence and look at other potentials. But
I also knew when I went into those homes. In
the back of you, I was comparing, all right, now,
do the real estate agent. Okay, if you're hiring real
estate agent to find you the home you want, if
you find one you love, you're going to go to
a second or third.
Speaker 5 (02:21:54):
One real estate agent. No, huh huh No, my real.
Speaker 6 (02:21:59):
Estate people think not when you're spending money exactly when
you know you found one, it's like that's the one.
Speaker 5 (02:22:05):
If you know the one that you found, don't let
them leave the building, right.
Speaker 6 (02:22:08):
I've always said that that if you got them in
the building, don't let him out because somebody else may
hire them.
Speaker 5 (02:22:14):
So what's the difference here? Have they? Have they not
fallen in love with a guy they've.
Speaker 6 (02:22:19):
Interviewed yet it doesn't seem like it, or do they
just need to go through because you leave that glove
on the table, isn't there the more app for somebody
to hire them?
Speaker 5 (02:22:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:22:27):
And then also like uh, you got to not you,
but got to take into account that maybe Nick Cassario
likes one of them, doesn't love them, maybe draw or.
Speaker 6 (02:22:37):
VI and that comes with that collaboration. You got vcation
for me, like shopping for like if you're going for
close or a pair of shoes when I walk in
to the PGA to our superstore and I see it
Travis Matthew shirt I love, or when I go into
a pair of shoes wherever it is and I see
him the clouds, I'll look around, but I'm already grabbing them.
Speaker 5 (02:22:58):
You already where you're going back? Because I love them? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (02:23:02):
So well, then for another day, I'll go check another brand.
When I see something I love, I ain't windows shopping
fifty more times. If I see it, I'm grabbing it
because my thought process.
Speaker 5 (02:23:11):
Is I got to get it before somebody else does,
even though there's plenty to go. You get my point,
And it's the same thing here.
Speaker 6 (02:23:17):
So I'm wondering what their philosophy is is that we
have ten scheduled, schedule them all. Let's go fifteen scheduled.
We're going to go through them all and do what
you do in your house, start comparing what is this? Okay,
this guy's the bar? Can anybody get over that bar?
And he's starting Is it fair to the guy that
comes after the guy that set the bar?
Speaker 5 (02:23:35):
Probably not?
Speaker 6 (02:23:36):
But you know that's it's business, right, So I'm not
saying there's the right way. But I also, for me,
you want to interview them all, but when you find
one you absolutely love, it's really hard. And he also
probably don't want to money. What if I love two
of them and then I can't make you know what
I'm saying. If I the one I love, I like
the other guys, let me get the one I love.
(02:23:57):
I don't want to fall in love with three of them,
because then it's a painting as now then now your
decisions are skewed, right, But I fall all over the one.
So I'm wondering where it is. If you love one,
do you just grab and go to grab?
Speaker 5 (02:24:09):
This is it? I'm done.
Speaker 6 (02:24:10):
I'm sure there's other good candidates. Let somebody else interview him.
This is my guy?
Speaker 5 (02:24:16):
Or is it? We've scheduled interviews, were obligated to go
through all of them.
Speaker 6 (02:24:22):
I've I wander afraid you'll miss out on a great one.
They may even be greater than the one you fell
in love with.
Speaker 4 (02:24:29):
Yeah, I wonder what it comes down to when Nick
Casario and Dimiko Ryans are sitting in these conversations, sitting
in these interviews, does Nick Caceio like one and draw
or not draw Johnson?
Speaker 5 (02:24:41):
Dang it?
Speaker 4 (02:24:42):
Demiko Ryans loves him? Or does he like them and
Nick SiO loves him? How many more candidates are going
to interview? Continue to cast a wide, wide net, But
you're gonna start second interviews.
Speaker 6 (02:24:54):
You know, put it this way for me, Demico Ryans
has to love him more than Nick Cassario.
Speaker 5 (02:24:59):
Yes, yes, I agree.
Speaker 6 (02:25:01):
If it's a player, then then it's a different story
because me Cassira's in charge of personnel and like drafting,
I think it also. I think it flips. If it's
a player, well, Domico needs to love him. But if
the general manager has the power, the general manager is
supposed to. If it's you love two of them, the
(02:25:22):
general manager usually ends up making the final decision on
right and that's that's happened. It'll happen every year with teams.
But my thing is right with when it comes to
the when it comes to the guy that they're hiring,
I'm more concerned about Demiko Ryans loving the coordinator and
the offensive line coach than I am the general manager.
Because the general manager is not calling plays on Saturday
(02:25:44):
or is not response he's responsible to give you some
good groceries. But the Demikos and you get to say,
then you get to go back up there and eat
that great that you get to eat the great meal
that was cooked. So I'm more concerned about Demiko Ryan's
love for a guy and I am Nick Casaria. When
it comes to the finding another coach on your staff.
Speaker 5 (02:26:05):
Let's talk to Steve real quick and wants to get
in on this conversation. Steve, what's up, Hey, how are
you guys doing today? Good man? What's on your mind
with this general manager and head coach discussion?
Speaker 20 (02:26:14):
Well, talking about whether or not you interview everybody on
the list. If I find somebody I absolutely love, go
back and look at the following the upcoming interviews on
paper and see if they can even come close based
on what's on paper this card. The ones that don't,
but if anybody's got a chance, interview them.
Speaker 5 (02:26:31):
All agreed.
Speaker 20 (02:26:33):
If you got to work a little bit harder to
figure out which one is best, then do it because
you want the best. And you know what, any fasonable
stone turn.
Speaker 6 (02:26:41):
And Steve, you know, Steve, you know what else about
that too? It's get back to your house thing, Brian.
You know, you fall in love with the first one,
and you start comparing and comparing, and then you go
back to the first one after you've seen no other
that you say, I might be excwed because I wanted
that house. Yeah, And then all of a sudden, by
the ninth when you say I found that backyard just
looks a little different.
Speaker 5 (02:27:00):
I love it. And it happens in these interviews too.
Speaker 6 (02:27:02):
So hey, unless you're afraid somebody, if it's your negotiating
with three other teams are trying to get your guy,
then I get you have to expedite it. But if
you feel like you're the this is he's gonna get
the coordinator job here or go back to where he was,
or not have a job, then you have a little leeway.
Speaker 5 (02:27:18):
But I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (02:27:20):
I'm always looking for the next the diamond that's shinier
when it comes to that. And while you're interviewing, you
go through, but you eliminate the ones. You say, this
guy's three years away, there's no reason to interview him
now if you know you got the guy you love.
Speaker 5 (02:27:33):
Agreed.
Speaker 20 (02:27:34):
Quick comment, never fall in love with a house and
never fall in love with the coordinator.
Speaker 6 (02:27:39):
Good point, because you know what you sell houses and
go and guess what else?
Speaker 5 (02:27:44):
Coordinators leave to go be head coaches. The how is
I going to leave you? Though? Oh?
Speaker 6 (02:27:49):
But when they say fall in love with it, but
it's also people say, don't fall when you're getting recruited now,
don't don't fall in love with the coach. Don't go
to the coach, right and I see for me the emotion,
the coaches everything you should fall in love with.
Speaker 5 (02:28:02):
If you're making the.
Speaker 6 (02:28:03):
One for it's the first big decision you'll ever make
in your life. More than likely when you're getting recruited.
It was the first you know what girlfriend to have,
but unless you're getting married at seventeen. But it's really
the first big decision you're really gonna ever make is
where you go to college. If you're you know, with
the letter of intent you're going.
Speaker 4 (02:28:21):
To sign and you know what they say about falling
in love, Sean, here we go. Falling in love with
you is the second best thing in the world. Finding
you as the first nice Valentine's Day right around the
head over to Hallmark.
Speaker 5 (02:28:31):
That's nice. By one get one free Bogo, that's nice.
You're bo going it up?
Speaker 4 (02:28:36):
No, not on Valentine's Day, the stupidest day of the
freaking year.
Speaker 6 (02:28:40):
So but he's right, you don't. What are you saying,
don't fall in love with coordinator? Yeah, you fall in
love with the cordinat they Eventually they'll either break your
heart because they're not as good as you.
Speaker 5 (02:28:48):
Thought they were, or they're going to be so good
that they leave. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:28:52):
Falling in love is never your intention, but it became
my addiction saying, man, keep hitting that. He's scrolling on
the No, no, I'm in my bag right here, dog
on Google.
Speaker 5 (02:29:05):
Sure you know we don't have internet in here?
Speaker 4 (02:29:07):
Yeah, sure you will. I don't, apparently I do. Well,
what's on your phone? I'm not on my phone. I'm
on my black book on my computer. What's the difference,
doesn't it doesn't interview? The internet work for both? Yeah, yeah,
we don't have though we don't know. Uhuh well, yeah
I do.
Speaker 5 (02:29:20):
Yeah exactly. I don't have it up on the computer.
I gotta focus. Yeah you got it. Yeah. I got
to put you in the best position to succeed. Yeah,
so I keep you. I can be screwing around.
Speaker 6 (02:29:28):
Come on, yeah and read me quotes from from you,
from your heart that you just invented blood what a guy.
Speaker 5 (02:29:35):
I love it. I appreciate it. Literally, Google moving quotes
about falling in love. I love it, and they got
about a thousand of them. Yeah, there you go, it's
a thousand.
Speaker 4 (02:29:45):
Let's get to break got a couple of segments left
here on the show Sports Stock seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (02:29:51):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 4 (02:29:55):
Less than two weeks before Pictures and Catchers report, Got
the super Bowl coming up?
Speaker 5 (02:30:00):
Springtime? Ride around the corner? What's Groundhog's Day? Where's punks?
Tony Phil at? There's our guy at Day?
Speaker 6 (02:30:06):
You got you gotta love p Phil? I call him
p Phil? That's p Phil?
Speaker 5 (02:30:10):
What's up? P Phil? When is Groundhog's Day? Let's see February? What?
Whoa it's Sunday?
Speaker 6 (02:30:20):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (02:30:22):
Little Pusatani.
Speaker 4 (02:30:23):
Yeah, we're gonna know if we're gonna know if we
have what six more weeks of winter?
Speaker 5 (02:30:27):
Or you know? What do you call him pucks? How
do you say it? How do you call him out?
Speaker 6 (02:30:30):
When you Tony Phil saying punks say pusy.
Speaker 5 (02:30:34):
Dog even though you're not a dog. You're like a
what is he? Is he a groundhog? Well? Hints day
in Groundholliday?
Speaker 8 (02:30:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:30:41):
I mean I don't know if fits? I guess? Uh?
What do you call him big? You call him big field?
Or pucksy? Show us that shadow?
Speaker 4 (02:30:50):
Bit?
Speaker 5 (02:30:50):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (02:30:50):
What is six more weeks of winter? He sees his shadow?
Or he doesn't tripley. What do you think take me
looking at it?
Speaker 5 (02:30:57):
I can just do it. Yeah, I don't know. But
if brown seed, if you don't see the shadow, that
means that there are six more weeks of winter.
Speaker 4 (02:31:05):
The brownhog sees his shadow on February second. It is
taken as a sign that the next seeing six weeks
will bring winter.
Speaker 5 (02:31:11):
Give me that shadow, dog, No, you want to you
want the heat coming back? I do not.
Speaker 6 (02:31:18):
Oh see, I want that. I want there to be
no shadow. No, I want to see the shadow because
I was going to say the lack of shadow means
we're getting warm weather sooner. I hate the summers here.
I hate the summer. Eighth summer, it's coming quick spring. Yeah,
give me seventy five or better starting tomorrow. I would
take seventy five. You know what Tod might give me,
(02:31:42):
give me Scott still weather from yeah, but from Thanksgiving. Yeah,
it's humidity that gets you. Yeah, from Thanksgiving to early January.
First week of January. I can take all the winter
you need.
Speaker 16 (02:31:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:31:54):
Now it's time to shift back into spring mode. Short
sleeve shirts, maybe a hoodie every now and again at night. Huh.
And if we can only with my one wish would
be if all the heat it was dry heat, right,
I would love that. But no, man, that shadow don't
give me. Don't give me that full shadow. I need, no,
(02:32:15):
I need I need. Next week we're at eighty two
degrees and throwing balls at the flagstick. No, yeah, that's
what I need.
Speaker 5 (02:32:21):
I need another. I need some more snow.
Speaker 6 (02:32:23):
No oh hell no, no, I'm good.
Speaker 5 (02:32:26):
I'm ready for the San Diego weather.
Speaker 6 (02:32:29):
Ara Scott's the weather regularly for the until until it's
not like that again next fall, late fall.
Speaker 5 (02:32:36):
I just do the one hundred degrees with the humidity.
Just get a good sweat in. You're shoring your game up.
You're you know.
Speaker 6 (02:32:43):
Getting No, we're not. We're not shoring her game up.
I am we are not. Okay, Well I am shored up.
And you know, kids, it doesn't hurt them on there
when they grab the bat, it doesn't sting their hands.
Speaker 5 (02:32:57):
I mean, let's go. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:32:58):
I mean there's that, but there's also you know, the
fact for your cleats are melting on the turf.
Speaker 5 (02:33:03):
If the f them cleats. Oh, I thought you're gonna
say them kids, and well I love the kids. The kids.
It's gonna be like eighty degrees on Monday, damned rights.
And that's my style. I love it.
Speaker 6 (02:33:17):
Yeah, I don't need p Phil, you know my guy,
p Phil. I need p Peel to give me a
minimal shadow. So let's go what do you want, puxy punksy? Yeah,
you want to go to.
Speaker 5 (02:33:28):
What the No? I don't. Why not? Because I could
care less about support our guy. Man.
Speaker 6 (02:33:34):
I support him from a distance. I'll zoom him, watch
him on TV. Yeah, I'll call I'll call Bill Murray
up and I'll just go watch that movie while he's out.
Speaker 5 (02:33:41):
There doing what an underrated movie? Man. So yeah, I'm
I'm I'm all for the good weather. Okay, this is good.
Speaker 6 (02:33:49):
I mean I like the cold of it as it's
a little crisp and you need that time for some
coffee and the fireplace and all that. But now it's
time that if I want to go that, I'll travel
to Jackson Hole Wyler, Montana. But I prefer right now
at home seventy five Sonny, and let's go little breeze
and let's the game seventy five. Right there you go,
(02:34:11):
Joe Nichols, Yes it is, Yes, yes it is.
Speaker 5 (02:34:14):
Did you hear what Cam Newton said.
Speaker 4 (02:34:15):
Yesterday on his discussion, Steven A, Yeah, it's well, I
got it right, great career hints.
Speaker 6 (02:34:22):
Well, yeah, it's bothersome to me. I mean, he can
choose anything he wants. I get why an MVP is important,
but to me, there is no friggin way an MVP
wall I would ever take an MVP over a Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (02:34:37):
Yeah. So stephen A.
Speaker 4 (02:34:38):
Smith asked Cam Newton on the set of First Take
if he basically do you want the MVP season or
a Super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (02:34:47):
And this is what Cam Newton had to say.
Speaker 21 (02:34:49):
We've we've got a former League MVP right here on
the set right now in Cam, I ask you, Cam,
if you could give back that League MVP for a
Super Bowl champ being shit, would you do it?
Speaker 12 (02:35:01):
No?
Speaker 5 (02:35:02):
Oh? Really? Really wow?
Speaker 10 (02:35:06):
Because you have to ask it through this lens. That
was a very journalistic viewpoint or vantage point of response.
Stephen A w ask you this question, and you know,
just to pose this thought, what's more important impact or championships?
Speaker 5 (02:35:22):
You look at a guy like Alan iverson.
Speaker 10 (02:35:24):
The words you stood up on the table and blah
blah blah blah blah. Everybody's not going to be Michael Jordan.
Everybody's not going to be Patrick Mahomes. Everybody's not going
to be these individuals who have the luxury of saying, hey,
I not only dominated this sport, but I also have
championships to back it. Like, let me remind you, Brad
(02:35:44):
Johnson won a Super Bowl, Trent Dilfer won a super Bowl. Respectfully,
Nick Foles won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (02:35:53):
So yes, when you look.
Speaker 10 (02:35:55):
At those guys and you say, okay, what's more important?
Would you have preferred to win a super Bowl? I
think that that's the humble approach. But if we're being honest,
the impact of you holding yourself accountable to say everybody
has a responsibility to do.
Speaker 5 (02:36:11):
And you could say, as an.
Speaker 10 (02:36:13):
MVP Award winner or All American, you've hailed yourself or
you've hailed.
Speaker 5 (02:36:19):
Your end of the bargain down. And that's what it
really comes down.
Speaker 10 (02:36:22):
To it for me, I know that's not the popular pick.
I'm trying to be popularized, but my take is I'm
taking individual success.
Speaker 5 (02:36:33):
Because I did my job.
Speaker 10 (02:36:35):
Football is not about one guy trying to do eleven jobs.
It's eleven guys doing one job. And if everybody does
their job, best famous words of our coach Belichick, just
do your job.
Speaker 6 (02:36:48):
And apparently they didn't do enough of that in the
He didn't do enough of it and the team didn't
in their Super Bowl. Listen, everybody reserves the right to
make their own opinion. And I get it, and he
deserves right. It's obvious. And you know what, if you'd
have told me what would Cam say before he said it,
I would have said he was said, take the MVP.
Judging from watching him in his career, hell of it,
(02:37:09):
freak show talent, all that, and it's hard to win
an MVP. A good friend of mine, Rich Gannon, won
his in Oakland, and I can tell you right now,
and Rich said it on Twitter last night and went
on common Rich would have taken the Super Bowl over
the MVP. And it wouldn't even hesitation if I was ever.
You know what you really want be the MVP in
the super Bowl. That's the bigger award, Be the MVP
in the super Bowl. And I love when you say
(02:37:31):
Nick Foles, Trent Bill for Brad Johnson all won super
Bowls respectfully. No, that's not respectfully. It's basically saying those
guys you didn't think were great players, matter of fact,
I'll tell you what. Over the course of his career,
Brad Johnson put up some pretty good numbers in his career. Yeah,
and he had a Pro Bowl season and threw for
four thousand yards in one year, so he played pretty
damn well. And I do believe Nick Foles was the
(02:37:52):
Super Bowl MVP and a super Bowl champion, So he's
pretty good, okay, and played the best in the biggest
Here's another thing. He played his best in the biggest game.
You know who didn't Cam Newton, thank you? So I
think Cam Newton's one of the biggest freak shows we've
ever had before meeting.
Speaker 5 (02:38:09):
Talent wise, it's off the charts.
Speaker 6 (02:38:11):
It does not surprise me one bit that he chose
the individual He said, it's the individual ward and when
he said what would you rather do? Make an impact
or win a Super Bowl ring? In order to win
a Super Bowl ring, that position absolutely has to make
an impact. So it's kind of all over the map there.
And he's not the only one that will say MVP,
(02:38:32):
but the majority of people I've been around, I tell
you right now, I think Brady would give back any
MVP's one to add more Super Bowls to it. And
he's already got seven of them. Yeah, and went to ten,
so each individual and he reserves the right to do it.
That's no problem. It's not like a right or wrong answer.
That's his answer, and that's great. But I can tell
(02:38:54):
you this that most of the guys I know played
the position would choose the others would choose the other
side Cam Newton in that Super Bowl, and guys that
have won an MVP would choose the other side.
Speaker 4 (02:39:05):
Cam Newton that Super Bowl, Shawn eighteen to forty one,
two hundred and sixty five yards, passing, no touchdowns, one interception,
quarterback rating a fifty five point four. He fumbled twice,
both for loss and if you remember, one of those
funnels kicked around right by him, and he chose not
to dive on the football in the freaking Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (02:39:23):
Listen, you selfish mother, Like, come.
Speaker 6 (02:39:26):
On, a ton of talent, dude. He had a great
season and was in an MVP. Like I said, stupid
ass hat. Guy's a monster skill set, no doubt, man.
But it doesn't surprise me one frigging bit that that.
Speaker 5 (02:39:40):
Was his answer.
Speaker 6 (02:39:41):
Did you grow up thinking about winning a championship? How
many times in the yard. When you're shooting hoops five
four three, you shoot up a shot, you make it all.
They win the NBA Championship, Well you had a home run,
you win the World Series, you throw a touchdown pass,
you win the Super Bowl. Cam Newton, Yet, then he's
go on there and say, well until Josh Allen Lamar
(02:40:02):
Jackson won one. I'm sure he said this, then how
can we put him with the best because they had
won a super Bowl? Neither is he. He's won an MVP,
which is a hard war to win. We know that,
but I'll tell you this that he uh that Cam Newton, well,
he didn't perform his best in the biggest game number one,
(02:40:22):
But it can't shock you. And I believe if he
had two MVPs and you said two MVPs or one
super Bowl ring, you can keep one MVP, give one
MVP away and get the Super Bowl, he might have
said two MVPs instead.
Speaker 5 (02:40:34):
He even still get the ring. So it doesn't.
Speaker 6 (02:40:37):
Surprise me, and I'm not mad at him. It's okay
to have that opinion. I just when it says, well,
you know, would you rather have it be an impact player? Well,
usually the impact player a quarterback, a lot of times
you can win a Super Bowl being an impact player.
So I disagree with him. I would choose one hundred
and eighty and it wouldn't even take a hesit. I
wouldn't even hesitate. And I have won a championship at
(02:40:58):
the pro level, okay, and so I get it. I
you can give me the championship of why you do
it in the celebration with the fellas. I can tell
you this thirty years from now. He may love it,
but they'll remember who won the Super Bowl. We'll have
to go back who won that MVP and his buddy's
laws remember. And it's a huge award and he earned
(02:41:18):
every bit of it that year. But I think the
majority of people would take the team thing over the
individual award. He's right about eleven guys got to do
their job, but apparently about three of them did their
job in that Super Bowl. They didn't they didn't win it, right,
So I just I disagree with him. My mind would
be one hundred percent different, one hundred and eighty degrees
different than his. Yeah, but I don't have his MVP,
(02:41:40):
and neither You've got as many super Bowls as I do.
Hell of a talent you don't have a Great Cup
title of the talent. But it doesn't surprise me that
he chose that. Yeah, let's just put it that way. Yeah,
I like, I just gloss he don't have a great
Cup title. No, he doesn't, And that's okay too. No,
I got that ring that he doesn't have. Yeah, exactly,
And I wouldn't give that back. If you said, Sean
(02:42:01):
be the MVP of the league. We threw for forty
five hundred y'ad through for a lot, you would give
that back to the MVP, I'd say, you can. You
can do whatever you want with the MVP trophy or
award everything. I'm good with this, Yeah, because I remember
the celebration and how it felt and how it steel feels,
and that that's that's far more important to me. Yeah,
people think different, and that's okay. It doesn't make him bad,
(02:42:23):
but I I I'd probably choose a.
Speaker 5 (02:42:25):
Different team player. I would die would as well.
Speaker 4 (02:42:27):
Let's get in the final segment here on a Friday
edition the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 2 (02:42:32):
We're gonna have to turn this matter over to Sean.
Oh no more.
Speaker 1 (02:42:37):
Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 4 (02:42:41):
Apparently made a run at Nick Cayley for offensive coordinator.
It was reportedly their top option. Nick Caylee let it
be known that he did not have any interest in
the job. Nick Kyley works with Michae Lafleur. Lafleur was
fired by the Jets after his offensive struggles with Zach Wilson.
Speaker 6 (02:43:01):
Did Michael Floor go back to uh? Did he go
to McDaniel, I mean not McDaniel to to uh Sean McVay,
Michael Fluor left, he goes back with.
Speaker 5 (02:43:15):
The Rams coordinator.
Speaker 6 (02:43:16):
Yeah, so, and that's that Matt Lafleur, Michael Lafleur, that
whole group, and Kaylee's one of them. So he decided
not to do it. That might so doesnt means he's
going to take not going to take a job. He's
just not taking that one. So don't have to worry
about the Jets taking Nick Kaylee.
Speaker 5 (02:43:33):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (02:43:35):
They don't have a offensive coordinator that are still on
the search, just like the UH Houston Texas.
Speaker 5 (02:43:40):
You know what I miss? What do you miss? I mean,
it's Friday? You know what we do on Friday?
Speaker 6 (02:43:45):
Saying playing that song? No, it's no, that's what I miss.
We can't play it. You really miss that, dude, Let's
go get out early. Do you mean we can't play that? No,
we're not playing it. I'm just saying we miss it.
Speaker 5 (02:43:57):
Though, I don't miss it. Yeah, we do. You might.
YEA song blows?
Speaker 4 (02:44:02):
Whoa would it blow if they were in the Super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (02:44:07):
Yeah, if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. Okay,
but she doesn't, so she's not there. You go, But
then again she doesn't. She still might be, but I
think she's still my aunt. A.
Speaker 4 (02:44:20):
By the way, three time w NBA champion Natasha Howard
is going to sign with the Indiana Fever as a
free agent.
Speaker 5 (02:44:26):
Big news out of the w NBA. We do do uh,
maybe do a segment on it on Monday?
Speaker 6 (02:44:33):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:44:36):
No?
Speaker 5 (02:44:36):
Yeah? Good.
Speaker 4 (02:44:39):
They tried to make it a big deal that Kaitlyn
Clark said no to participating in the NBA three Point
Contest because you know they have that special thing now
where the chairman and a woman, Yeah, the female go
against each other.
Speaker 5 (02:44:51):
Well, she didn't want to do it. Yeah, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (02:44:54):
Oh, that's right, you're supposed to do anytime anybody asks this.
The word knows a good word.
Speaker 5 (02:44:58):
Once in a while, Yeah, it wor especially when it
comes to business.
Speaker 6 (02:45:02):
I mean, sometimes she's gotta have some time to yourself, right,
Maybe she's got something more important to do.
Speaker 5 (02:45:07):
Yeah, maybe she, George, just maybe she just doesn't want
to right. She's basketballed out right now, and I don't
hate her for it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:45:15):
Maybe maybe we'll bring in a w NBA seven segment
on Monday.
Speaker 5 (02:45:18):
Really, yeah, I can't wait, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:45:22):
Hopefully by Monday the Texans hire new oc and Alex
Bregman has signed somewhere.
Speaker 5 (02:45:30):
As we get into the month of February, smart as.
Speaker 6 (02:45:34):
The first, I mean, when is this gonna happen? I
have no idea. I have no idea. And we will
talk Chiefs Eagles because this is going to be a
good game and yeah, super though you may not have
a vested interest, you gamblers might, but it is going
to be a good game. Both are well equipped to
win the whole damn thing.
Speaker 5 (02:45:51):
I hope take one bark that runs for like two
bills on him.
Speaker 6 (02:45:55):
That would help Philly in a big way. Just a
slight understatement, it would be nice.
Speaker 5 (02:46:00):
Hey, you all enjoy the weekend. Yeah, that's Sean Salisbury.
Speaker 4 (02:46:04):
Emmanuel Elmore is our producer Ian Brian Lima, thank you
for listening. We're back on Monday morning at six a m.
Enjoy your weekend, Be safe, Be smart, Colin Uber. The
Matt Thomas Show with Rosses next
Saulsbury.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury, The usc.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Truth, longtime friend, Sewn Salisbury.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Brian Lima, go Lobos. This is the Sewn Salsbury Show.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Sean Salisbury, Brian Lilma, Manuel Elmore. Rockets fall to the
Grizzlies last night. Texans, continuing their search for an offensive coordinator,
alprin Shoon makes the All Star Team in the NBA.
Seawan Tripley. Good morning, what's happening Friday? Good morning, morning,
(00:42):
good morning. We should open up every Friday with that cut.
It's Friday night. You know the song, It's Friday Night
from the Uh. Isn't there this the one with a
Isn't there a song that with Cube and the group
and Friday?
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Isn't that?
Speaker 6 (00:57):
Oh? Yeah, yeah yeah, letting you know it's frid I
woke up this morning feeling like the lucky man. You know,
I know it's country. You know who sings that.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
I know, I'm lucky.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
Montgomery, Montgomery, gentry, gentry, thank you, and good night. I
woke up and then I hear it on the I
hear it on the radio driving in. I woke up
this morning feeling like a lucky man, like someday at
some point today we have to play just to just
to bring his perspective of life's good.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Man, you want to do an all requests Friday, is
what you're saying. Why wouldn't we trip you down with that?
I know it's usually funky Friday. Might be all requests Friday.
He might be down with opp too. Yeah you know
me know me?
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Yeah? Who's who sings that? Opp?
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (01:45):
End?
Speaker 5 (01:45):
By end? Is it naughty nature? I'm an idiot.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
See yeah, that's got some energy. We have to play
that too, opp Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Are you down with it?
Speaker 8 (01:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
With opp? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (01:59):
Man?
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Oh and another one we gotta play today is uh
whoop there it is?
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I gotta get that going back
there you go?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
That's uh who's that? By tag Team? Yeah? Yeah, let's
get a crunk.
Speaker 9 (02:13):
In this bitch.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
This ain't this ain't the Pine on a Friday night, dude.
For spring formal season. In season, we didn't have any
formals man about yeah, in season should have been partying, man. Yeah,
an old school like you know, stay up till five
in the morning, then go rake.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
You know what I'm saying, go four for four? You
feel me, dog, I feel you I feel you. Hey,
Rockets had a little primetime game last night. Kevin Harlan
on the call on t n T. Rockets got the
final shot. They lost one twenty one nineteen. Fred van
Vliet took the last shot.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, you're gonna lose some I'd rather somebody else take
that final shot. Bleet's kitchen. Dude, you on one one
guy to do? You roll up all Fan Van Vliet,
It's okay, it happens. K g veteran man. All right,
he's been in, you've been in. You got a ring
on that finger he does, so, you know Van Vliet,
how do you know? He wasn't gonna knock and they
got it somebody he didn't know you no, I know.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
But the only shots you missed the ones you don't take,
the shots you don't take.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
There you go. Is that Gretzky or Jordan? Which one
of it? That's?
Speaker 6 (03:23):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I don't I think I've seen both get credit. Oh
I think it might.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Actually I think it's Gretzky is the great one. The
shots you don't take. Here we go, let's check it out.
Who was the first Jordan or Gretzky one of the two, uh,
the three first ever? Yet's uh?
Speaker 10 (03:40):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Let's se Yeah, Wayne Gretzky, ye simply known as the
great One.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Or it could be Wolfgang Miter. It could be good
guy to Wolfgang.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
This is often credited to Wayne Gretzky. Uh, but there's
also reports that someone else said it prior to Wayne Gretzky,
and it was wolf Gang Miter.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
You know that?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Hell that is Wolfgang? Who do you think that is?
Speaker 11 (04:04):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (04:04):
I studied him on tape? You did? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
A great guy who is Wolfgang? Tremendous soccer player. He's
a retired professor of German folklore.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
Okay, close, bro close, if you did a soccer player
to the German folklore? Who who knows? But what right
when you hit the name Wolfgang as German? And I'll
tell you who loves Germans? I mean who Germans love?
Who is not just Wolfgang? Oh it's David the damn rights,
(04:33):
damn rights. So you know, Gretzky, Wolfgang? Who's counting?
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Man, Wolfgang? More shots? Who shot more shots? Did the
teacher of philosophy? He might have shot a shot with
some zoids you know in class, might have probably not?
Or yeah, I think that he probably had more shots
on Wolfgang.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Man, he's got a Listen to this guy. You're ready
to go through his resume.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
He's got degree from all of Vet College, University of Michigan,
and Michigan State.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
So you're saying that he's brilliant teach.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
He teached.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
He taught at the University of Vermont for fifty years. Wow,
fifty burger fifty burger on him.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Yeah, Man, Wolfgang's Wolfgang's a difference maker. Could be sounds
pretty smart. I'm gonna go with Wayne Gretzky though, going
with Wayne. Yeah, yeah, per I didn't have on my
Bengal card this morning in the first five minutes. Yeah,
that we were going to be talking about Professor Wolfgang Miter.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
We got to put some respect on his name though
he is professor Miner. Yeah, yeah, many problem makes us great.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Man.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
You know, we don't have to hit the hard hitting.
What do you want to talk about that is hard hitting?
You want to talk about the nineteenth interview for the
Texans offensive coordinator. You want to you want to save
that for the final three hours.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Here's here's what usually comes out of it. Hey interviewed
well like him, great philosophy. I've been doing it a while.
We're evaluating the situation. Great to have him here. He's done
some really good things with the RAMS or man, he's
done some really good things here in the building. Uh,
he's been calling place forever. You know, rarely do you
have somebody come out of there and say, man, crappy, right,
(06:10):
that interview sucked. Yeah, when you know it's like a doctor.
Has a doctor ever had an unsuccessful knee Injuryay, that's
my favorite.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Hey, And here's what it is.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
It's well, hey, he suffered an ACL surgery, was successful,
recovery should be on time, and uh we say recovery
times between eight and seven, eight and eight and here's
my favorite, eight and twenty months. Yeah yeah, right, that's
my favorite. Like, so he's down about probably give him
(06:43):
ten to twenty four, yeah exactly, which means, right, that's
my favor they cover. Hey, well listen, you know, I
don't know, maybe ten months and more likely between ten
and twenty. Yeah, you give her take a three after
run right, right, So there you go. You know, they
never had a never had a guy come out and say,
(07:04):
you know what, I went in there, that's surgery wasn't
very good man. I didn't quite tie the ligabits together
the way that I needed to. Hopefully he won't blow
it out again, because then it'll be a twenty four
to seventy four month recovery and.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
We'll be okay. You want to hear the new Duvaul. Oh?
Speaker 6 (07:21):
No, is somebody imitating here we go? That wasn't true.
That's that's him, that's lean I'm doing what.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
They asked him to redo it yesterday one of the
local media affiliates over and Jacksonvill ask him to redo
it again, Here we go, Here we Go?
Speaker 6 (07:46):
Is he trying to be a lifelong meme? Yeah, it's
I mean, he had to know. People were like, dude,
don't do that. Yeah, and then he came back and
he doubles down on it so we can make fun
of him even more.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
They asked him to read.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
They said, hey, I you've been working on the new
Duvall and he said yeah, and then they said can
you get the guy said can you do it for us?
Speaker 5 (08:07):
And that's him doing it. I would have said no.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
My first answer, are you guys mocking me? I would
have been like, no, I'm not doing it again. I'm
working on it. Yeah, you'll hear it during the season. No,
you hearing it Ota, So I'd say, we're crap cannon,
that's saying and we're here to play Jacksonville v.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Jaguar football.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
We're getting it. If anything you had from the pay,
we're not doing that here, I would have said, shout out.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Duval County left it at that Tripley played like the
last actually just played again. But let it roll to
where he says, here we god, No, it's at the end.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
O A, here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
That's great, Come on.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Sweet Lee, Liam, because any I just I just need
to know really when you really get, when you really
break it down. Did Liam Cohen need to give me
that saying no? Isn't there more fans than just Duval County?
Speaker 5 (09:08):
I think so?
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Yeah, so we're we're limiting our reach and yeah, uh oh, well,
just don't come in here and throw a party on
this defense.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
There's no chance you want to start doing it. So like, well, County,
are you in? You're on Harris are you no? I'm
in Fort Ben, Fort fo Ben. Here we go, there
you go. No, I don't try it. I could see
the wheels turning.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
No, can you imagine, Hey, coach Shula, did you do
that for us? MH coach Reid? Well, Andy Reid on
his commercial commercial classic Yeah fumbles.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Yeah, it's fubble. I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
It's annoying. It is how many times they play it.
But you know what's so weird. I can never be
mad at Andy Reid though, oh yeah, I mean it
could never.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
I don't know why. I just can't be mad at it.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Are you curious? Not curious? You interested in the Super
Bowl commercials this year? I'm always interested when they go.
I've been disappointed in some.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
Yeah, you know, I think about back to uh but
I loved the Budweiser commercial and it had the dog
was out by itself, Yeah, a little puppy, yes, yeah,
it got out, yeah, and was at night and going
around and all of a sudden it we got a
little scary because the wolf's are it was either wolfs
or Kylie or whatever it was, I can't remember, were
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and came to scare the dog. And all of a sudden,
four or five big Clydesdals came running, yeah, and got
behind were there and led him into the house and
the dad's like yeah, and just budwivesers.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
I don't know why. I mean, the Clydesdale commercials will
move you man, like at Christmas time, they'll do.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
They're emotional men, So yeah, there's good. There'll be some
funny ones, there'll be some duds. And they spend a
lot of money. What is going to be six seven
million bucks for thirty seconds or something else? Oh wait,
I think we're close to ten million bucks for sixty
seconds now.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
And I wish I got paid for thirty second.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
And then you see some are pumping out like the
automobile dealerships. Yeah, no, kidd, wouldn't it be great? Cut
it in force to fifteen? Wouldn't But you know what
I'm saying, is it like the beer commercials of the automobile.
Think about some of the money they spend. They have
marketing dollars. They have to spend it right, right or yeah?
But yeah, I do look forward to him because I'm
waiting to see if there's one you know what one
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moves me?
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Is there a new product with it? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (11:18):
I am, And then I'm anxious to see what company
is going to throw some big money in that.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
We don't talk enough about that says, we're going to exceed.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
We're going all in on the Super Bowl to get
some love nationally this year.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
So yeah, I do like I do.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Yeah, I get I get a I get a kick
out of some of them.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I pay attention to him.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Yeah, what was the It was earlier this or it
was in the fall or winter obviously we're still in winter.
Right right before the holidays. It was Apple. They put
out their new commercial about the air pods, and it's
like the dad that that was deaf and he couldn't
hear his daughter sing, and then and then he puts
the air pods in it allows him to sing.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
Moving commercial you want to talk about move throw And
then I see those commercials that did a real life.
Sometimes times they'll come on where you'll see a video
where the child can't hear, and then they've put special
special like hearing aids, and all of a sudden they
get to hear their dad or mom talked the first time.
Or I saw one the other day they had this
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kid couldn't have been two, and they fit in for
glasses and he puts classes on and his eyes get
big like oh I can see, and I'm like, now
that is the essence of gift giving and what what
it's supposed to be like. So yeah, I look forward
to the you know, the movie and then they those
commercials movie and that one with the Clydes Dales and
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the ones you're talking about, the one at Christmas time
was was well done? Those those ad agencies and those
ad people who put them together. Yeah, and you said, now,
I know, you know, you think about sitting around those
conference rooms and you put together and you present it
to all the other people that are there saying I
want to roll this out, and all of a sudden
you're like, this is a gold mine. Yeah, you know,
the boss says, yes, that's the one we're going. This
is going to crush it. And then you see your
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commercials like and then they give you a pay raise
to make you the president of the marketing department or
whatever or the advertised department. But I always wonder what
goes into the thought process to somebody probably sitting around
staring at the ceiling at night like we all do,
and bam, I got one, you know, and then to
put it together.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
There's some really.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
Clever ad ad agencies, but clever advertising people out there.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Thirty second commercial this year.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
I must say seven to eight mally seven bucks seven
even and ten to twelve probably for a sixty second er.
And then somebody like four whoever's doing it, you know
the car dealership, but you know beer Go Daddy usually
has a commercial too. You know there's but somebody you
know they're pouring in if they do five of them dudents,
they're doing sixty seconders. You're dropping forty fifty million bucks
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on a SAT on a Super Bowl Sunday. But they
wouldn't do it, even those with brand awareness like Coca
Cola there, you know they people know the brand, right,
but even with brand or Budweiser, people know the brand,
you know, the Apple. But they figured that fifty million
dollars that they're gonna make that their ROI on their advertising,
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or they wouldn't do it. So you know, when they're
spending it, you're like, are they really spend that much money?
And then you come back and say, hey man, what
was your years successful year in twenty twenty five? Oh,
we were eighty percent over our goal. Okay, keep spending
money on advertising.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yeah, keep spending that ten mil that's exactly on Super
Bowl Sunday.
Speaker 8 (14:21):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
All right, continue to talk about the NFL. You're Houston, Texans.
They've requested an interview with a name that you might
not know. Who is it that's next?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Let the celebration start, war Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk
seven ninety.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Well, they concluded, you know, they concluded two interviews yesterday,
Nick Kyley and Bill Laser, and then they also interviewed
Vikings assistant offensive coordinator, assistant QB coach Grant Yadinsky.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
No idea who that is?
Speaker 12 (15:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Me, I've never I'll.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Tell you what though, a long line of I don't
know who that is with that name, Grant Yodinsky, Grant
Yudinsky's check it out? Tell the TC.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Is he from the famous Dnsky? Is that a you mean? Yeah?
Like the West Coast? Yeah, the oh, the West Coast,
the flying will lend us? You know who the hell
is this guy? I don't know? Check him out? Do
you need to know his name for him to be good?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yes, he went to Century, Yes, he went to Davidson,
and then he went to Towson undrafted in twenty nineteen.
He was a grad assistant at Baylor, UH and then
he got into the NFL and twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Been there ever since. Coaching assistant Towason States in Maryland. Yeah,
the teammate from there.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Yeah, man, he went to Central Bucks, West Bucks.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
What do what side?
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Yah? You think that's what they said up there? Yeah?
I think, yeah, Hey, where do you go? I go
to the west side. No, I don't think he said that. No,
why not?
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Probably more like a west side. No, I would I
would think he said that one to the west man. No,
he didn't say. Man, you're the wrong part of the
country for that. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, good Yeah, good point. Yeah,
they're up in the northeast.
Speaker 10 (16:17):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Literally, been in the NFL since twenty twenty coaching assistant
with the Panthers, Assistant to the head coach Slash special
projects for the Vikings in twenty twenty two. Then he
became the assistant quarterbacks coach in twenty twenty three, and
then now currently assistant offensive coordinator, assistant quarterbacks coach.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Oh. I don't know enough about it.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
I don't know enough about him to tell you anything
about his philosophy or what he does. I would imagine
he's got the similar philosophy as Kevin O'Connell, which is
the McVeigh and Shanahan thoughts. But if he's on there,
you know, like minded. But I don't know anything about
his Obviously he's not called plays.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Before, no at the NFL level. So I'll tell you
what though, smart ass student he was cos I d
a academic first team All American. He had a GPA
of three point nine four for his undergrad and then
he had a four point h getting his masters.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Know, the failing whatever dork.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
He played defensive end at Towson, and this is something
you don't hear very often anymore ever, coaching quarterbacks defensive
end at Towson, and he had to sit out the
twenty sixteen season due to transfer rules.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Now the transfer rules would say you haven't transferred enough
transfer more go go to four or five schools.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
One's not enough transfer. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Back then it was if you transfer, you got to
sit out all the transf rules. Now it's uh, oh no, dude,
you want to transferred once? Oh you got that's not
enough for more go use them? Oh use him, just
leave for the hell of it. Go get Yeah, exactly.
I don't know anything about the guy. Yeah, so he
was a defensive end, call you know, and now he's
working with quarterbacks. So I'm leaving here to go work
(18:02):
with the nose tackle you are and in Baltimore, is
uh the interior defensive line coast?
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Oh cool?
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Is uh?
Speaker 13 (18:08):
Is?
Speaker 5 (18:08):
What was the big fat guy Vince Wolfork?
Speaker 8 (18:11):
Then?
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Have you seen him? By the way, No, it's a
big dude. He's lost so much weight. He was great
last time I saw him.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
I was he was losing. I thought you about till
he beefed up again.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
No, he's like forty fifty.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
You remember how C. C. Sabathi thick, big and thick,
and how he got jacked up. That's kind of what
Vince Vince Wolfork is on that path.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Oh good for him. Yeah, he looks good.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Big, good, healthier, longer man move I bet, I bet
it's much easier to move around and enjoy your life.
Speaker 11 (18:35):
Man.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Good on Vince. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Grant Yudinsky, Yeah, of the famous who uh the West coast,
West coast. Yeah, even though you know he's from the
East coast. Yeah, he trained, he became a West coast Yedinsky.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Yeah, he was like original his the the uh John
you didn't Virginior, Yeah he was, he was.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
He made it to Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
He was originally one of the forty nine ers, not
the football team, like the the gold Digging Battlers. Yeah,
the Settlers way back. Yeah yeah, yeah, so he made
they made the cross cross country.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
From the He's an East Coast guy, but he's part
of the West Coast.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
That's weird, right, that is weird. And I had him.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
I had him as as part of the famous with
but say similar, so I meant coast the famous West Coast. Yeah, yeah,
but we recruited one from the East coast. It's like
being on the Dallas North toll Way going south south, right, yeah,
instead of just being on the Dallas Tollway. On the
Dallas North Tollway going south south can get confusing.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
They can. Yeah, why interview this guy? Honestly?
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Well, from your vantage point, you're like, I don't know him?
Why I interview him? No, not that I don't know him, no,
bok from their vantage point, what if all of a sudden,
you said, Kevin o'connacost said, this guy's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
He is brilliant.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
He will be an offensive coordinator soon and you better
get him all the getting's good. And what what if
all of a sudden you don't need to knowing. Look
what it Look what happened. I mean, I don't know
if you're going to give him the credit for it,
but Darnold had a great year. Other than the last
two games, offense got better. He's been around O'Connell and
some good coaches. Maybe it just got now. I don't
know if they're gonna hire him, But there every now
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and again there's that one guy say, oh, well, let
me ask you this, who was Ben Johnson three years ago?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Well I can, I mean, fair point, but let me
go back and look, and this is where I'm gonna.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Four years ago. I mean to the point.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
My point is is that you you might find a
hitting gym. That's why you say, why would they interview him?
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Because he made Like I said, don't you regardless of
the outside.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Well, if I get a good.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Recommendation and then from somebody and I'm the I'm interviewed,
I'm the head coach interviewing a coordinator and he walks
in and he sets you. I mean, did you know
Joe Brady before? I'm not saying NUE just from LSU,
but as an assaist, he wasn't. Really he would when
Joe Brady was hired at LSU. Everybody saying who's assistant? Right,
His assistant in New Orleans kind of helped out and
by the end of the year you're like, ooh, this
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so maybe he's one of those This is fast risers.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
This is my I'm not defense, but this is where
I look at it. Ben Johnson has been coaching since
twenty eleven. Yodinsky's been coaching since twenty twenty. I'm just
talking experience wise, So yeah, now, and it can't hurt
to interview. Everybody cast a wide net.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
You never know where to find the guy, right, I
get it.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
But just looking at this, this guy, Yudinsky, it's four
years and you think he needs more experience. I think
he just needs more experience. And again I agree that
Kevin O'Connell could be like, hey man, what can it
hurt to bring him in for an interview, But then
it's like a little more sense of urgency. Let's bring
in some more experienced guys. But look, they're going to
do their due diligence regardless. I just look at like,
(21:43):
like I said, Ben Johnson literally been coaching since twenty
eleven when he was at Boston College and at the.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Point I was not coaching.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
I'm just talking about the you know, not knowing who
he was until he really hit the ground running into
tread right.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
As far as like a household name where it's the
last two years where he's become a high commodity. Now,
like I said, I don't know anything about the guy. Yeah,
but if he's an assistant like that with very minimal experience,
it may be at the point where somebody said, might
want to try this while getting's good, right, I mean
just because he's he's but still if you haven't called plays,
you haven't called plays, and there's a learning curve that
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goes with it, so and we lose.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
I don't know. The Texans just had that with body
slow he'd never call place.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Right, So I don't know if there would go Like
I always say, if you went with an inexperienced guy
the first time, my guess is you'll go with an
experienced guy the second time.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
It's because you.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Already had the guy who had never called plays and
had some success doing it here but obviously wasn't pleasing
enough in the second year for Damika Rance. I don't know,
or maybe there's a relationship in the building. Who knows
you you never know point there too. And for me,
like I've always told, I don't care if you're twenty
five or seventy five.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
If you can't coach, you can coach.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
And some guys just get you know, our coaches, deep
down coaches that we don't know enough about because they've
never really pushed the envelope.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
And maybe this.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Is one of those Zach Taylor type guys that man,
oh yeah, okay, it goes play.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
But I've never heard of it. I've never even heard
of him.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
And I go on in Minnesota every single week and
at no time during the season on a radio show
has his name ever been brought up. Yeah, at no time.
So but listen, if you're interviewing, somebody recommended.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Him, Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 12 (23:20):
So.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
All right, there's also a local candidate that's going to
be brought in for an interview. This is a name
you might not know as well. Who is it that's next?
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Speaker 1 (24:02):
I had out there, but the Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
You guys want to give a I don't know about
an hour breakdown of the Pro Bowl this weekend.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
You know how I haven't seen a Pro Bowl, dude.
All right, so we'll go from seven thirty eight thirty
on that fifteen eighteen years I got, I got everything
we need. I think I'll pass.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
They had the uh and of the Skills challenge like
that was last night.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Yeah, okay, they did dodgeball last night.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
So we're playing pe now, yeah, that's it essentially yes
on TV now, yes, okay.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Yeah, yeah with those the red ball, the throat yeah,
oh yeah yeah, they did that.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
I can't I can't even tell you what the skills
are at that contest, because I don't care they did this.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Once I left Hawaii, it was it was, Yeah, it's
a joke leaving Hawaii. That's a damn shame you left Hawaii.
Even though it was again the Hawaiian folks treated him great.
I covered that a bunch of times. Yeah, dude, you
want to talk about everybody looking forward to that every week?
I mean every year, Oh, Super bowls over, hop on
a plane and you go spend a week, and some
you'd stay an extra week and go to like a
(25:10):
different island, but you're you're in Hawaii for a week,
and we do we'd do an NFL live or a
couple of shows, and that was it on the with
the with a set sitting in the sand, and it's
like that. That's and and then so to the rest
of the days in the sun, golf and eat good food,
fresh food, drinking a coal one. It was frigging off
(25:30):
the hook. That was the That was the trip. And
then they moved it from there. If you're gonna the
Pro Bowl hadn't been better since everything they're doing now
you could do in Hawaii. I don't understand. Yeah, keep
it in Hawaii every year.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Why can't we just go back to keep it in
Hawaii the like I said, the community over there and
the culture was awesome, and they treated the players great,
and go play a games. Some starters don't want to play,
but they're not really playing now either, so what's the difference,
I mean, and the players you'll get more plays. I
want to take a trip to Hawaii than playing a
flag football game in Orlando. I think maybe I'm crazy,
(26:05):
but it just for me the or you know, And
it's amazing how the eighth altern it will get in
and on his resume you.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Can say I made the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
Yeah, you're like the tenth quarterback, right, and five guys
turn it down, two ones hurt, the other ones playing
in the at and T Pebble Beach Pro Am and
uh so the then three make the Pro Bowl and
there are three guys that would never end on your
resume because I went.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
To four Pro Bowls.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Yeah that was the eighth alternate, but it moved up
to the number one, and you get all your bonuses
and the rest of it.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
It's fine. I know you want to be at the
Fellaws bafter a while.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
It's like, come on, now, you know who made the
Pro Bowl this year as like the ninth alternate Drake
May he threw for like barely twenty five hundred yards.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
I think he's going to be a good player.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
I think he didn't make the Pro Bowl, right, he
was not a pro bowler, Sean. He was literally like
the sixth alternate and he's not a pro bowler. Announced
it the once you're saying.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Thirty two, like you got the three guys and then
name he named twenty nine alternates because you be into
twenty seventy.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
He's still a pro bowler. Because fifteen guys turn it down.
Might as well let Jameis Winston be a pro bowler
that right.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Yeah, it's becoming. I mean there may be some that
like watching that. I've got zero interest in it.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Tripley. Did you catch any of it last night?
Speaker 12 (27:11):
No?
Speaker 8 (27:11):
I did.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
I was watching this rocking mouth. Okay, so they have this.
They had the wire like the catching contest. Derek Sting
Junior participated in it, and I'm watching the high I
just watched the highlights of Justin Jefferson doing it. They
had these wide receivers and secondary guys catching balls off
of the machine one handed right.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
With with.
Speaker 14 (27:30):
Some clips of them. They then they put the mask
on globs and they have big mascot gloves that they had
these dudes catching with. You know what I want to
like freaking look at this. You know what I want
them to do this?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Look at that literally mascot gloves. Can you see it?
Speaker 8 (27:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (27:48):
I see him.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Looks like the gloves like Mickey Mouse wears on the
Disney Show.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Looks like the big looks like the big. What's the
cheap meal you could make back in the day, not rice,
a Ronny hamburger helper. You know that mascot guy on
it right, That's that's on the that's on the box,
isn't it. I can say you now, you know what
I want. I want you to fire the ball to
these guys. Glove I don't know if they do. Glove free, yeah,
(28:13):
glove free, yeah go. Let's go play with just your hands.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
Let's fire at them where they're catching the football with
just ands, no gloves alive, like old school football.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Let's do that. Yeah, no offense.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
I'm past the point of when a ball is three
feet away from you and it magnetizes to your glove
and we call it the We're getting the greatest catch
ever four times a year, five times year with a
one handed over. Now they're impressive the way guys can
torqu their body and move their biden and make it catch.
But this ain't Raymond Berry catching it with one hand
and from Johnny United for a different ball game.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Yeah, maybe, Like, I don't know why you wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Wear gloves as a wide receiver. Now, huh, even if
you don't like gloves, you'll catch more balls because they
stick to it.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Yeah maybe maybe uh put a little spider tack on
the glove. Was like for Mark Andrews or Dalton Kincaid.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
You know I'm going to tell you right now.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
Well Kincaid's problem was he tried to completely body it
and you know, got into his body, couldn't control it
and then it.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Hit him in the forearm, I know. And Mark Andrews
it hit him in the hands. He'll never drop that.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Now, the ball could have been thrown a little out
in front, but it hit him in both hands and
his show you gotta catch it. And then the sad
thing about is that guy doesn't fumble, and he laid
one down the series before. He'll never forget that because
this literally felt like Baltimore's year. Yeah, and here we
are again. Here we are again. Two dudes that keep
winning m vps or keep sitting on the doorst and
can't get through Mahomes, Jackson and Allen, Allen and Jackson.
(29:42):
It's crazy, how how that, how good they play and
they just can't get over them. Well, they're great players.
They're playing in the air that you It's like when
you played against the Braces, like, oh man, I could
have won three more, but I never got a chance.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
And you know what's even even funnier or not on
your boat when you think about this whole Patrick Mahomes
and Tom Brady comparison, Eli Manning kryptonite for Tom Brady.
Yeah right, beat him twice. People forget that Tom Brady
beat Mahomes twice. And then Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow is
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the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes kryptonite, except Joe Burrow just
hasn't won a Super Bowl yet.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
This is going through this.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Had Cincinnati made the playoffs and been in the AFC
Championship game, that's not who Kansas City wanted to help.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
That's why Kansas City tanked that last game. They knew,
damn well they did that. Who would want to see
you know, did you see the year Tree Hendrickson had
this year?
Speaker 6 (30:42):
He led off the charts. He is unbelievable. Joe Burrow
and he's not mentioned as the Defensive Player of the Year.
It's insane to look at his numbers. I think in
the last four years, maybe five years, he's had seventy eight.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
So guy as a monster.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
He's got his pass rushing, natural house rushing skills are
off the charts. You literally, if you wanted, if they'd
have made the playoffs, you could have given him the
Defensive Player of the Year. And Burrow was in the
MVP talk. His numbers were stupid. Almost nobody talked about it.
Why because they didn't make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Well, because they didn't lost in September yep, yep, which matters, Yeah,
which matters, so.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Bummer, But yeah, that's there are certain teams you just
to want to face. And up until this playoff, the
Pittsburgh wanted to know, I mean, the Baltimore wanted to
know part of Pittsburgh and then they completely dismassman.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Like absolutely just beat the brakes off of them. Yeah yeah, well,
you know, you gotta catch footballs.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
You do that. That usually helps.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
So you're not gonna watch. So no breakdown of the
Pro Bowl at zero.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
If you want to have a guest guest on to
talk about it, you go ahead, But it ain't gonna
be me.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
I won't.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
I'll host it, but also I'll take time off and
go grab some breakfast or something. You don't even eat breakfast,
Well I will that day. That's today when the Pro
Bowl this weekend? Yeah it's Sunday, right yeah, okay, Well
you're gonna talk about it after the game.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
No, right now, we'll go ahead.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
You break it once you dig in, you dig in.
I'd like to know who actually watches that stuff.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
It ain't gonna be me.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
It's tough enough to watch the regular Sunday game three
road three hours in a row. This is a lot
of Pro Bowl game played in flags and gloves that
are the size of a dog on foam finger.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
This is one of the most boring weekends in sports
for me. I'm not watching the Pro Bowl. There'll be
some college basketball on the deal.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
College hoops right now. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Other than that, it's lame, dude, this this, this, this time,
and the time of the year, Like leading into the
super sucks.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Immerse yourself into a hobby. Brian. Yeah, it's called I coach.
There you go.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
I coached ten year olds last week the Live Live
VP Man I Matt bats it's gonna be Sunday today, Did.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
I dress like it's gonna be cold? I got jack now,
but I'm I got it's gonna be loop pants tomorrow,
Travis Matthew had on them ready, Yeah, I'm ready.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
No free pub Man. Well, you know it's just you
went three times there, Tea Matt Yeah, yeah, I'm playing today.
So that's what you know when you don't like the sports.
It's all gor golf. I got to train tomorrow for
kick a couple of quarterbacks this weekend, but I'm gonna
need to play uh tea times but either Blackhawk or
Weston Lakes, which is both my courses, which one, well,
(33:26):
West Lakes a tad closer, but depending on which one
has the exact tea time after a meeting I had
at noon time, probably around one.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Thirty Lakes or or Blackhawk which one. I don't know
why you're not playing, No, I'm just trying to see if.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
The why are you won't be having a gallery at
the golf course. Yeah, yeah, now I'm gonna go play.
I just haven't decided yet.
Speaker 10 (33:52):
Go on.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Yeah yeah you the man are like over there chipping
on the practice.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Yeah m m yeah, you're really good golf lesson this morning.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Hush, simple man. I think that's the crate and all
serious and I know we're going to break. As in
all seriousness. Sports is hard, Baseball is hard, football, so
all of it, right, Golf's extremely hard, and we make
it way more hard than it is. But simple little
things like that, the simple fixes in sports is insane
to me.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
It is I never thought of that. I literally never
thought of it.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Guy's got a shoulder and left shoulders, right handed golfer
against a wall, and he simply said, and if we
know this, but he made it. So he goes, if
you're hitting an iron, hands hit the wall first, hitting
the driver, the club hits the wall first. And while
we see that when people are doing it, but the
truth is it's so simple, and they put a visual
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up of it. It's like, oh, okay, creating lag with
the driver. I mean it's it's amazing. How oh that
clicks in? Yeah, pretty simple checks out. Always the hands
are going to lead with the iron and the and
the club face is going to lead with the driver.
So easy, so simple. Yeah, it's crazy. I wish it
was that easy to knocket in the hole. The hole
in one's all over Roy McElroy yesterday. Yeah, I mean, uh,
(35:03):
our guy, Shane Lowry, the Irishman. Yeah, knocking one day?
How about that on whole? I think seven knocks it
in the hole right there on the ocean.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
What a what a day man.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
Keep that golf go and put away a hole at
Pebble Beach, one of the most iconic holes in the
in the world. Yeah, they're just the scene at Pebble
Beach watch on TV gets me like bricked.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
What does what does Jim Nance say? A view like
no other? Or what is it you're talking about?
Speaker 5 (35:28):
For the master?
Speaker 8 (35:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
What is it? Hello?
Speaker 6 (35:31):
Friends, Let's see it's a it's a it's a tradition
unlike any other.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Yeah, well, for Pebble Beach is a view like any other. Unbelievable, insane.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
That seventeen mile drives one of the five best five
most beautiful places in the maybe in the world for sure,
in the.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
In the country. Yeah, no doubt, no doubt about it.
All right, let's get to the next segment. We'll continue
to talk about these Houston Texans. They have requested an
interview and it's a local guy from right here in Houston.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Who is it? That's next?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Sean Salisbury Show continues.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Why you're bringing the fro back? Not today? God dang,
he said, no, you said last time you would when.
Speaker 14 (36:11):
I'm getting a retwist. Yeah, you're getting a retwist.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
I'm just getting it.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Yeah, I get a haircut today too. Are you all
the trifecta haircuts in your years?
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Lord?
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Huh, I'm gonna be for the little I'm gonna get
them all cut clippers on the side. You take it
down to a one like one on the side, maybe
state them on the top or flow and let it grow.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
I don't know yet.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
I still to this day, I'll tell the story for
the rest of my life triply.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
The Schawn. I think it was like year one there,
it was flowing.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Remember he didn't have he didn't have any He never
had shaved his head. You always just get a regular
haircut right back then. He didn't wear a hat as often.
I don't even know why I wear because I go golf,
So I just wear it. One random day, he comes
in facial hair gone besides like a little goatee hair,
completely shaved, and he looked pissed.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
When I walked in.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
I was like, like, you are right.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
He's like, yeah, what do you mean? And he made
a joke. I can't say it on air, but he
made a joke and I was like, where's your hair?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Dude?
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Thought natural born killer man. Oh my god, he was
about to Yeah. Took that thing down to one. Everywhere dude.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
It was like the Clippers won everywhere and the go
tea looked like I was ready to chill somebody.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
And he was like, oh yeah, you know for the summer,
I I like to shave it all off. And I
was like, oh yeah, well it's January, prepared, prepared for
the for the I think we're like getting ready to
go into the summer. I think it was like springtime,
like April. Yeah, it was like April May or something.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Yeah. He's like, yeah, what you don't like to state
them looking I was like no, no, no, I did it.
Just don't hurt me. Yea.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
I had the look of anger. Yeah, I start throwing
haymakers because you got a haircut. The go tea. Yeah,
but yeah, first hair cut in like seven weeks from me. Man, Yeah,
time to tighten it up, way yeah, it's way past due.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Man.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Why we're a hat every day except for in here.
We've all been there on the We need to cut
right now. Yeah, tighten it up a little bit.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Well you get those twit get a get a get
a retwist next week, next week. Many Yeah, man, I
want to see the fro Hey, what.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
Don't you twist these nuts on for? Manny?
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Okay, let out of his nuts, get get out of it,
Get out of his uh ketch his get out of
his cavy, his wall. You know you're in his wall.
You're in his his wall. No, you're not as walls wall.
You're rolling up where you're right up in his kitchen.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
You turn his microwave on. Dude, Let let the.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
Man take care of his hair. Well, I'm not sit here,
That's why I'm in the kitchen. Yeah, seven seven nineties
number to join. Let's get out to the function. My goodness, Trippley,
can you punch him up? My mouse ain't working over
here from a task casita there it is, Damien.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
What's happening? Man?
Speaker 12 (38:46):
What's up?
Speaker 11 (38:47):
Hey, how you doing his water?
Speaker 12 (38:49):
God, shame on you pishing on O parades, ragging, ragging
on the Pro Bowl. I have you know, listen, I
have you know why the Pro.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Bowl is in You better get you better, you better
take your ass right off this airways.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Brother, you know that.
Speaker 12 (39:06):
Hey, listen, this is Hey, I'm with you, joke aside.
I really don't care for it, but hey, Brian, tell him,
this is the time of the year where unofficial tap
breaking happen. These players can go out talking to their buddies.
Speaker 6 (39:19):
Hey, free agent stealing. You're right about that, my man.
You get to get up in the guy's grill, say
come join us.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Yeah we poached.
Speaker 12 (39:31):
I believe we poach gigs the way that way. So yeah, hey,
I believe it's important. I hang, I believe you guys.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Man, I love it.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
It's an excellent point. The truth is, if accept your
Pro Bowl bid for that very reason, go play and
go be on a recruiting trip. Take care of a
recruiting trip. Stanley as well, you know what I'm saying.
That's a great point by Dan. I thought he was
about to tell me how much he loves how much
he loves shorts and T shirt football. I know he
did like because he's a hardcore football guy. He likes
(40:00):
he likes everybody playing dodgeball. Great point, and he's right, dude.
Even back then. I remember when we were covering it
when I was in Hawaii, I mean when it was
in Hawaii, when I was working at ESPN. You could
stand around the fellas, you know, before practice, before you're
doing it, and they'd be talking and talking about coaches
they would or wouldn't play for and teams.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
So it started. It was this was back then. Yeah,
so it is. It's a great point.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
You go there, it's a chance you may be able
to take to you and Stingley or a couple of fellaws,
you know, say hey man, we got a good thing
going on here, yea, and and sell it.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Damn right. Yeah, hell yeah. So Damien makes it. How
dare he do? Right?
Speaker 6 (40:37):
How dare we discount the Pro Bowl because it is
a it is a built in recruiting trip.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
It is for the best players on the planet, not
in this Super Bowl. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Joe Nixon, man, yeah, you call you call him Joe Nixon. Nixon, Yeah,
I like it. I wonder what TJ. Strauss is gonna
be doing. Probably maybe he's playing golf this weekend. Doubt
if I was, if I was elected to the Pro Bowl.
Marino used to do this all the time, Dan Disco, Dan, Okay, Marino.
You get early on, you go to the Pro Bowl
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with the fellas. Then as you got a little older, Dan,
you know, the it happened. Dan would get getting scope,
you know, getting knee cleaned out for the offseason, and
you turn on at and T pel Beach program said,
oh of course you hey man, you can't play in
the Pro Bowl. Man, I can't play.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
And then he's he's ripping, he's ripping drivers at the
five five, six hundred yard hold and strolling ride along
to golf.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Course like I love you, Dan, Man.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
If you know when you go to I guess you
can never take them for granted when you get elected
to twelve of them or whatever.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
At some point, and now what an honor.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
It's still an honor because back then it really wasn't
the eighth alternate, you know, it was just those guys
would actually go. They wouldn't play much, but it was
all they'd have fun in Hawaiian and have a good time.
But it's so true, man, they get to a point
of sure, I guess you're Marino and if the guy
doesn't go, you want to go to that first one.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
But Dan's like, no, I'm going to beach Man. I've
played enough of these Pro Bowls.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
If I made the Pro Bowl, or even if I
didn't and I was in the NFL, I would take
my ass to or Okay, just kidding. If I've made
the Pro Bowl, I'm taking my ass to Hawaii for
two weeks.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
If it was in Hawaii.
Speaker 6 (42:07):
Yeah, oh yeah, ghostly early on man with a fellas.
It's an honor, right, you're with the best of the best.
But I can also see you've been to ten straight
and Pebble Beach and Prorams the same weekend. You're like,
I'm gonna I'm getting my knee cleaned out. Yeah, but
I'm gonna go to Pebble Beach first, right, So I
get it, But it's still an honor.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
These guys would go to twelve. I think the guys
whould go to twelve, fourteen of them.
Speaker 6 (42:31):
Still, I don't think they take them for granted, or
they wouldn't be or they wouldn't keep going to a
meaning their their game would fall off. I think they
recognize the importance and then they end up with a
yellow or mustard color jacket when their careers over.
Speaker 5 (42:41):
Yeah, it's fun to watch. Man.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Let's get into the seven o'clock hour. Let's talk some
Texans football. What's the one big thing they need to
do with the offense when it comes to recruiting new players?
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That's next.
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Rockets fall to the Grizzlies last night, snapping their four
game winning streak. Albert and Shan Goon named of the
All Star Team in the NBA for the first time
in his career. Texans continuing their interviews for the offensive
coordinator position.
Speaker 5 (45:35):
With that, the Texans.
Speaker 4 (45:39):
Have officially requested an interview with Commander's assistant head coach
and a offensive pass game coordinator, Brian Johnson. He is
from right here in the city of Houston. He went
to Baytown Lee High School, played at Utah, went undrafted
in nine been coaching since twenty ten twenty, when he
(46:00):
was a quarterbacks coach at Utah and Sean if you
remember we talked about this little bit off air. He
was the Eagles quarterbacks coach from twenty one to twenty two.
Then he became the offensive coordinator. Then he was fired,
and then he found himself in Washington.
Speaker 6 (46:13):
Yep, he was fired after the one year there after
Shane Steikin he took over for Stike and when he
left and uh, you know, Sirianni ran him out hired
Kellen Moore.
Speaker 5 (46:23):
It's worked for Philadelphia this year.
Speaker 6 (46:25):
I mean coordinators matter man and Brian Johnson is a
highly regarded football coach. It just didn't work in Philadelphia
of calling plays away one see. Think about that now.
I was asked a question about Detroit yesterday, and here
you get asked all the time about Okay, how is
it really that big a deal when you lose coordinators. Well,
if they're successful, it is. Think about what Detroit's going through.
(46:45):
They're going to take coaches. We've talked about Aaron you know,
Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn, both highly successful, both now
head coaches in the league. This happened to Philadelphia. You
lose them and even if you're in the same building,
and you're the quarterback coach that offensive coordinator, like Brian
Johnson was for Shane Stiking. You leave, it's a still
You've got to put your own stamp on it.
Speaker 5 (47:07):
Right.
Speaker 6 (47:07):
Think about he Stike and Leaves, they were in the
Super Bowl. He and Jonathan Gannon, the defensive coordinator. They
did they get beat those guys go get head coaching jobs,
and they hired offensive defensive coordinator Brian Johnson being one
who'd been in the same room, same building, same system
with Shane Stikin. And then he gets to call the
plays and it just didn't fit for whatever reason. And
(47:30):
now he's you know, then he goes to Washington and
his passing game coordinator and look at what Jaden Daniels
has done. And now he's going to get this opportunity
to at least interview again. But he's a highly regarded
football coach. He just didn't work at Philly. Doesn't mean
he can't be successful somewhere else. But it does matter. Man,
this higher I've always contended while I know you got
to have a great leader and culture changer as a
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head coach to Mikael Ryans, But I'm just gonna tell
you if you look no further than the staff at
the talent with the players, but look no further than
a great coaching staff to see a team that wins
a lot of games. Yeah, And when I say it,
great head coaches, bad assistants or average coaches, assistants not
(48:15):
good teachers, they're not gonna win much. Give me a
head coach that has even if it was an average
leader but got by, but had great assistants that were
great teachers, You'll win. So we give the head coach
all the credit and then I get it. But I'm
going to tell you what you can't. The head coach,
the people he hires are paramount. It'll be paramount for Detroit,
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it was paramount for Philadelphia and for this team to
get where they're going. These these hires offensive line coach
which is which is I'm talking about, has to be
done right here, and the offensive coordinator and they need
to be on the same page. This is a This
is as important to hire as as Demiko Ryans will
have made in this first three years. Why both of
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these guys, because you saw the you you saw weakness
which he perceived as a weakness, and you can't let
that continue to believe if you do, now, it's going
to come back on you.
Speaker 5 (49:12):
And you know what, people are gonna say, he's not
the guy.
Speaker 6 (49:14):
Yeah if they if they may make the playfs to say, yeah,
I get there, but we just can't win it, which
which which is a bit unfair. But those those assistants
are important. And I'm glad Brian Johnson's getting an interview.
And you know, he did some good things wherever he's been.
That's why he continues to get interviews.
Speaker 4 (49:30):
Also an interesting note Jeremy Fowler of ESPN reporting that
multiple teams have inquired about Doug Peterson for an offensive
coordinator role.
Speaker 6 (49:38):
This coachycle you. I mean, I don't know if Doug
wants to do it as ahead from ahead he does.
Speaker 5 (49:42):
Yeah, he does.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
Note that he said it's uncertain at the stage whether
he wants to do it or not, right, but teams
are looking into it exactly.
Speaker 6 (49:49):
I would interview him, yeah, hell, I would call him.
The guy is a hell of a play caller. He's
an Andy Reid guy. So's he runs. They just weren't
very good and he got into a lull. And Trevor
Lawrence has been an underachieved as far as the consistency
goes and injuries getting the way. I'm just telling you,
Doug Peterson's a really good play caller, and you could
do a lot worse. Head coaching experience gets it and
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in the building you wouldn't have to babysit his offense.
I have zero issue with it. I would interview him now.
I would try to convince him. Hey, dude, listen, I
know you want to be a head coach, but what
would hurt come in here, have some success.
Speaker 5 (50:21):
You got to go.
Speaker 6 (50:22):
And he should be intriguing to want to work with
a good quarterback and he's got one.
Speaker 5 (50:26):
Yeah, you can do far worse than Doug Peterson.
Speaker 4 (50:28):
Well, with Doug Peterson if you bring him in, there's
your experience.
Speaker 5 (50:34):
Got a super Bowl? You want a super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (50:36):
He did, So there's your there's your super Bowl experience,
there's your longtime experience. And you look at what he's
done with quarterbacks outside of Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 6 (50:44):
But Lawrence did some good things consistently right up and
down man.
Speaker 5 (50:50):
And and I don't know if if he does want to.
Speaker 6 (50:54):
Well out of all the names you mentioned, Of all
the names you mentioned, the safest hire would be him
is the Peterson, the safe that if you want to
just say play it safe. It may not be sexy
to some, but we're not going to show up and
have no idea what's going on. We're not worried about Well,
he's first time play caller. Does he know how to
get into this rhythm? He's really brilliant, but it's his
(51:14):
first time play caller. God to see like we were
waiting for Bobby Slow, see what was going to happen?
Well with this. I know a guy who's called him
in the biggest games. He's had his teeth kicked in
because he struggled and Jay fired. He's been a head coach.
He knows he's from Andy Reid, and Andy Reid does
it right, and he's got some has done a phenomenal
job of teaching other guys to go out and get opportunities.
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And the safest, the safe the guys of the guys
they've interviewed these very safest is is Doug Peterson. And
they haven't interviewed him right right, No, they'd like to,
but he's the he'd be the safest hire the guys
that they've that we brought up. Bill Laser has been
around even, but Doug Peterson's at the highest level.
Speaker 5 (51:52):
Yah.
Speaker 4 (51:52):
You mentioned the word sexy. Has there even been a
sexy uh interview so far here?
Speaker 5 (51:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (51:59):
Uh not that would doesn't mean they're not great code,
but just to said that the the optics of the
sexiness of a guy.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, right exactly. I just I think
Chip Kelly would be uh sexy interview.
Speaker 6 (52:12):
Now he'd be Now he's a he'd be a safe pick,
but a wild card too because Chip will do some
things and he's got he's got some ego, and he
also is very stern. I'm sure he and to Miko
will get along. But Chip would be like, I'll handle
the offense. You let this, let me take care of this. Yeah,
And so you got to deal with a strong personality
and I don't think you should ever feel threat I
always believe that the great head coaches hire great assistants,
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and the higher assistants they expect.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
To be head coaches. I believe that that.
Speaker 6 (52:37):
They at least they opened the door from expecting the
guy that he may not be here and and not
be threatened by it as a head coach in the building.
Speaker 5 (52:44):
Right that. Oh, Doug Peterson's here. What if he takes
it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (52:47):
Yes, yeah, he'll go get another head coaching job somewhere else. Right,
But you need those guys around. They're just as important
as the talent on the field at developing the guys
in the house. And Doug Peterson would be a safe pick,
if not a really successful one, because he's done it
in the biggest games there is.
Speaker 4 (53:03):
If you're Doug Peterson and you have aspirations to be
a head coach again, wouldn't take in an offensive coordinator
job help.
Speaker 5 (53:09):
That out and dominating lute? Yeah, and doing well?
Speaker 6 (53:12):
To me, if you don't take it, it comes down to
he's still got money on that contract and you get
the difference. And if you go to me, it comes
down to simple can you handle the would your ego
getting the way.
Speaker 5 (53:23):
Because you still think you're a head coach?
Speaker 16 (53:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (53:25):
But in truth, sometimes you got to reset and redo it.
And it wouldn't be a bad place to start, right,
And a lot of guys have to reset and redo
it at a bad because you're hiring new coaching staff
for teams that suck usually or that guy that leaves
and goes gets one because the team's good. In this case,
it's a little purgatory for him. You're coming to a
team that has a quarterback. So for me taking a
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coordinator job, would the guy that's under a center would
have to be a big damn part of it. And
dougno's offensive line play too.
Speaker 4 (53:53):
So that was gonna be my next segue into into
the last part of this question that I was going
to ask you is, let's just say you go in
high hired Doug Peterson. I'm assuming he knows offensive line play.
He does run blocking, pass blocking, and he would have
a big say in the offensive line coach.
Speaker 6 (54:09):
And with that with the offense of whoever that guy is,
and he should have a say, and the guy he'd
want to bring in. Yeah, and the guy who just
got hired in wheld Moron go again? Uh, Doug Maroon
went to Uh, yeah, I believe with the Jets, with
with with Glenn or did he go somewhere else?
Speaker 5 (54:27):
Let's see, Oh no, he with Mike Rabel. There you
go Rabel in New England. They just hire Steve Wilkes
went to the Jets.
Speaker 6 (54:33):
That's exactly right, and he's gonna be He's gonna be
Aaron's defensive corrrect and Steve deserves this. He's a He's
a damn good football coach. I'm just telling you now
that like a guy like Doug Moron, watch New England's
offensive line this year, they will be better, and that
you've got to find a guy like that who is
a great technician, but also Maron's got some nasty in.
Speaker 5 (54:54):
Him too, which is good.
Speaker 4 (54:55):
Yeah, that's going to be a Mike Rabel's put together
a pretty damn good staff.
Speaker 5 (54:58):
Well, you learn those lessons time around. Who you gotta
have around you?
Speaker 4 (55:02):
Yeah, yep, all right, let's get to the steak out
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You know, if you if you're not, if you, if
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Speaker 5 (57:19):
I'm standing up, steaked out, steaked out right now. I'm
also all right, we know something that we do know.
Speaker 4 (57:30):
The refs in the NFL give a little more leeway
to the uh to the Jeeves, to the Patrick Mahomes
and the Kansas City chiefs. What kind way to put it,
you say, Dean Blandino. Remember Dean Blandino.
Speaker 5 (57:46):
I do I know all about Dino.
Speaker 4 (57:48):
He is the former and if you don't know, he's
the former NFL Senior VP of Officiating. He also does stuff,
I think he still does stuff on the Fox broadcast.
Speaker 5 (57:58):
He does the rules analyst. He does.
Speaker 4 (58:00):
His brother has come out and said that he is
convinced the league is rigged, and he is accusing of
his brother, Dean Blandino, of signing an NDA that will
prevent him from revealing it.
Speaker 5 (58:19):
He cites.
Speaker 4 (58:21):
Obviously the chiefs and the refs for Patrick Mahomes, And
it's gotten to the point that he has accused his brother,
Dean Blandino, of signing an NDA.
Speaker 6 (58:40):
Well, I'll tell you it's always nice when the family
has your back. Yeah, Dean Blandino did comment on it,
and he says, he said, my brother is convinced that
the league is rigged. He's also convinced that I signed
an NDA when I left league office. I signed an
NDA that I cannot tell anybody that it is rigged.
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We grew up in the same household. By the way,
I said, listen, there's no conspiracy the officials. There's too
many variables. There's too much going on. To me, it's
the hardest sport.
Speaker 4 (59:08):
When you think about football, with seven different officials to say, okay,
I'm gonna rig this game, or the game is rigged
from the league office down, the officiers just trying to
get it right.
Speaker 5 (59:16):
End quote.
Speaker 4 (59:17):
I don't care what you say, Dean Blandon. I think
it's actually easier. Seven officiers could probably come together and
be like, hey, man, did you see that? And the
guy could be like, no, I didn't see that, while
winking at him or something, you know, be a little hyperbolic.
But I do think there is I don't think it's rigged, Sean.
I think it's I don't know how to put it.
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I think there are.
Speaker 6 (59:40):
Well, it wasn't rigged for my Minnesota Vikings. I can
tell you that it wasn't rig Yeah, they rig it
for our playoff runs.
Speaker 5 (59:47):
I don't think it was.
Speaker 4 (59:47):
I don't think it's rigged, but I think there are
certain things that happen in these games, regardless of what
who's playing. They're all shift. I don't know how to
explain it. Man, you know what they want? Yeah, right,
here's the deal. I uh, Dean Blandino's brother. I wonder
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how Thanksgiving will be this time around the family vacation.
You want to go to the family reunion.
Speaker 6 (01:00:14):
Yeah, leave the brother out because well he's bust tossed
his referee brother.
Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
I mean, oh, family are going to make this up.
This article is on NBC sports dot Com. Yeah, you can't.
You can't make it up. Maybe they're tight. I don't know,
but it's odd. I I don't know if it's rigged.
I know this that I think it's human nature, human
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nature to be for the NFL to want the three
pete that.
Speaker 6 (01:00:51):
I think that every year that it's like I said,
you're gonna you're gonna tell me Michael Jordan if he
gets I mean, if it's close to a foul, wasn't
gonna get the call. I'm not saying it's right because
I hate it. I don't think the backup. I don't
think this eighth man on the bench should be treated
any different than a superstar on a basketball court.
Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
But whatever it is, it's it happens.
Speaker 6 (01:01:12):
I personally don't think they go into a game and
get a mandate from the NFL, from Roger Goodell's office
saying Kansas City must win. Now, I know at times
it feels like it and it's bad, and it makes
you question because I do the same thing. I'm just
trying to look at it legitimate, thinking how hard it
would be and how stupid you would have to be
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as an official, And we've had some dumb ones to
do that to rig games or to be in the game.
Speaker 5 (01:01:41):
How stupid you would be.
Speaker 6 (01:01:43):
You will get that they will eventually follow the money,
so it may not be rigged. But do I think
that at times there's a bias to certain teams. I
don't think there's any question and certain players. We'd be
lying and sugarcoating, all spraying cologne on a big pile
of crap if we thought that that doesn't exist.
Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
Rigged is a hardcore word, right, That's so.
Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
That's why I was trying to find the word that
I'm trying to describe it. I don't think it's rigged,
but I think there are times how about nudged it
towards them? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (01:02:18):
And so I do believe that that happens, and I
think I think, as an official, be easy to get into.
Oh that's your guy and your high five and all
those things. But I don't think that's the reason the
Kansas City Chiefs are headed to their third Super Bowl.
I think it's assisted them along the way, and at
times you're playing against twelve people. I don't think there's
any doubt. It's not the first team this has happened for.
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But I don't want to diminish how good they are.
But they don't need the help. Is the point. You
got to get it right? Yea, so rigged, I'm not
going that far and his brother, hopefully they'll have a
good conversation. But hey, thanks man, how you doing? You
want to come over for dinner tonight? Grab some pizza?
But do I think they there is a Do I
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think they have a problem with a little nudge towards
protecting them a little more? No, I think it does
exist in all sports. Everybody has a favorite brother and
you can say however you want. Everybody has a favorite
in some way, shape or form, and what they do.
Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
I just just get the calls right. And with all
the technology. We've talked about this so many damn times
this season, get it right. You have instant replay, get
it right.
Speaker 6 (01:03:31):
The first part of getting it right is the base
foundation of like what is past interference?
Speaker 5 (01:03:36):
What is?
Speaker 6 (01:03:37):
And that's why you got to go back. You should
be able to review every penalty. That doesn't mean you
get a flag to throw a red flag fifteen times
I'm talking about in the booth while the play's going on. Well,
you're still in the regular flow of the game, offensive
pass interference, but they don't call it. You should the
guy in New York or who's in the state, you know,
who's on that replay should be able to go back
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and say, oh, dude, he pushed off. Need to come
take a look at it, and him come take a
look at it. See if they decide if that's the case.
You know, I I believe. Hell, how about that offside's
penalty last week that they called on?
Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
Was it on?
Speaker 6 (01:04:12):
Buffalo got a headsize I think it was on our guy,
local hero. What's the what's what's the guy here at
the play at the University at Oliver. Didn't he get
a jump? Somebody got a jump and they called it.
Didn't they call a penalty on him like encroachment because
he jumped. I mean he got to the the he
beat the love of the ball. And some are saying, well,
the prairi was perfect timing, you know, we got he
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guessed and jumped it. But why couldn't you review that?
Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
Why?
Speaker 6 (01:04:36):
Why shouldn't you be able to If a guy lines
up in the neutral zone, if his helmet's over the
ball and he's and he's offside, why shouldn't you Because
human error. The referees are fallible, we know that, but
you can prevent it by having somebody up there who
you're you're you're just watching and making sure that Now
that doesn't mean you you're gonna call holding on.
Speaker 5 (01:04:55):
Every place, sitting up in the booth and buzz it down.
Speaker 6 (01:04:57):
But you know what plays I'm talking about, and and
I just think you should be able to review. They're
all judgment calls, right, be able to If you've got
a red flag and you've got two reviews, review them.
Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
Have at it.
Speaker 6 (01:05:08):
Got your review and both haves you know, have at it.
And it may be the off sides in the first
quarter that ends up getting you a first down that
takes you to in the end zone and wins the game.
Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
I just just get it right that it's not that
it's a novel concept. Yeah. Troy Aikman.
Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
Was on a podcast with Sports Illustrated and he talked
about the conspiracy theories and how to get it right
when it comes to these calls.
Speaker 6 (01:05:32):
And he does he does not mince words on when
it comes to referees and penalties and soft play.
Speaker 5 (01:05:38):
Yeah, this is uh.
Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
We'll hear that audio and we will discuss it next
right here on Sports Tux seven.
Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
To eighty The Sean Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
Troy Aikman.
Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
He was on the call for the Kansas City Chiefs
in Houston, Texans Divisional round playoff game. Obviously there were
some questionable calls. He voiced his displeasure with those calls.
He was on a podcast with Sports Illustrated and he
talked about getting the calls right in the NFL with
the officiating.
Speaker 5 (01:06:09):
This is how it sounded.
Speaker 18 (01:06:11):
I I know the officials have a They have a
tough job, you know.
Speaker 9 (01:06:17):
I mean the scrutiny that they're under.
Speaker 18 (01:06:21):
As we've gotten more advanced with inchin replay, those guys,
it seems, have become more and more scrutinized, and the
game has not become less controversial.
Speaker 9 (01:06:31):
The game has become more controversial.
Speaker 18 (01:06:33):
But then I just think that we are at a
point and this this is tipped a little bit because
the league is in partners with a number of these
gambling services. So here you are promoting gambling. People are
gambling more than they ever had before, and those types
of calls are there's a lot at stake regardless, but
especially when you're considering there's a lot of money that's
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changing hands with these.
Speaker 9 (01:06:57):
Calls as well.
Speaker 18 (01:06:58):
So I think that we owe it to the fans
that we get it right and and I think we're
at a point in time where we can't we can
get it more right. So that's that was really my position,
and just trying to lean on the NFL and say, hey,
you know, we've got to fix this.
Speaker 9 (01:07:15):
We've we've got to address it in the off season.
Speaker 5 (01:07:18):
And that's Troy.
Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
Yeah, And with that, what happens is and I'll expand
on what Troy said, and and I don't want to
speak for him, but I'm assuming too. What he means
also is with this betting change, and I don't think
he's saying that the referees are on the take. I
got I gathered and he's right, it's a brutal job.
I don't want it. Hence why they those guys go
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do it and you're not going to get them all right,
but you got to get most of them right, because
that's why you're the expert.
Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
But I can tell you what he means.
Speaker 6 (01:07:47):
The thing is, it's a it's a bit of hypocrisy,
which is okay. I mean, betting is not going away.
It's only going to get bigger and stronger across the country.
Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
That's just the way it is.
Speaker 6 (01:07:55):
It just is too much money to be made, right,
and you can follow the cash anywhere, so betting it
can go away. It's going to show and it's going
to show up in places like Texas whether you like
it or not. But here's what the deal is is
with it is it's when a call on the field happens.
I think with Troy's saying, you know, oh, look, taking
a safety. I mean there's plays that you say that
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changed the whole course the Texans Chiefs game, they taking
a safety, Think.
Speaker 5 (01:08:20):
How about that?
Speaker 6 (01:08:20):
How that changed? Oh my gosh. And so there's that
God And then on a bad call, when it's a
bad call and it costs you, and Troy's talking about
money changing hands, is you can't help but think with
all the gambling that I think what he's saying is
the questions start to enter your mind what's going on here?
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And he's right, we're more critical of referees now than
we've ever been. They got more technology now than they've
ever had and more opportunities to see it, and yet
they're under more scrutiny and there's more and at times,
rightfully so, I think some of them have lost confidence
and they rely on instant replay to bail them out
at time. So they're not as not as precise and
dynamic as they were when it was just them and
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not replay making the call. But with all this betting
and gambling, is I go a sponsors and putting them
on jerseys and everywhere they go that it's the fans
perspective that when it's a bad three or four bad
calls in a row or in a quarter, you're like,
come on, man, it's too obvious, right that I think
of what it is that change hands and it gets
into people's head and the fans they're not getting it right.
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What's human nature when that happens, not one time, but
three times or four times, is to think, well, somebody's
on the take or this is rigged right, that's what
you think.
Speaker 5 (01:09:35):
So it opens up the can of worms and what's
it lead to?
Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
More scrutiny by the referee.
Speaker 6 (01:09:39):
I actually think if you brought the referee in to
a post conference, like I said, and let them do
what the players do, like where we all hear it
and see it, I actually think they could take some
of the pressure off them by answering it. Honestly, I
think they'd get less scrutinized. We're worried about their security.
You ought to worry more about their security when they're
not talking. So I think that's what it is. It
comes down to the money changing hands. We hope it's
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not changing hands with the wrong people. But guys are
sitting in sports books that we all want to go
to every week, wait, hanging there on every call on
teams you don't even root for, and when they make
bad coll after bad coll after bad call, the initial
of the thought in your mind is it goes from
conspiracy theory to I'm not wrong. That's how we think, right,
So I think he spot on with this, and you
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got to get it right. That's why you have technology,
You got to get it right.
Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
Well, I think with all of these partnerships and sponsorships,
big gambling agencies and casinos and all that, just like
over in the NBA, Terry Rogier right now being investigated
for the Johntay Porter ring where Johntay Porter was basically
throwing games and throwing his play to affect the outcome
(01:10:48):
because he was on the take. Terry Rogier apparently was
involved in it as well. So you look at it
in the NBA and we know that what was a
guy's named Tim Donahey, we know that he was throwing
games and things like that. But I just I personally
have a hard time believing that there's not a couple
of referees in the NFL, or in sports period or
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in sports period that are benefiting from these partnerships.
Speaker 6 (01:11:13):
Statistics would tell you that some of the most that
everybody's got advice or something that they're not talking about.
I'm not saying this the case, but statistics would say
with all these things, somebody's got to be You did
think somebody's got to be doing this right. Think about this.
You're not making fifty five million years a quarterback. I'm
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just throwing you know, scenarios out there. You're or an
NBA player. Let's say you're a middle of the road
or a college basketball player. It's not gonna play in
the NBA and you're not an nil guy, but you
play and you can affect. You're the point guard, but
you're not getting drafted because you're slow and you're a
good college player. But you know that you're going right
into coaching when you're done. You're going to go get
a job on Wall Street. And somebody comes to you
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and says, all you got to do is make sure
you guys don't win by ten, nine and a half
or us and you control the game and they're offering
you two and a half million dollars on it, three
million bucks and you know that's the most money you're
ever going to make in your career, and they keep
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coming at you. Now the problem is, once you're in,
you're out.
Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (01:12:25):
You ain't getting out so and you'll be chasing money
and then you're looking over your shoulder the whole time.
Who's going to sell me? What's going on? What happens
when I don't collect? What happens when they put three
million dollars and I said I got this and we
screw it up? You know what I'm saying now, It
doesn't go from money. It goes from you losing a
finger in a hand and the stuff you see on
TV and we know it's real to me. But the
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temptation of an official saying I'm never going to get ahead.
What about the guy who may have been betting in
high school or college and he's behind seventy thousand dollars
and can't catch up chasing money. I'm not saying it's
a good thing, but of all the athletes, all the coaches,
all the players, all the referees, all the executives, all
the people, and now with big betting in mind, and
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you know, people are knocking on doors to an eighteen
year old kids that thinks he's getting hosed. Nil, I
know how I'm gonna get even. I can control this game.
I am the right guard and on fourth and one,
we ain't getting the first down to coming over me.
You know you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So doesn't humanate?
Are is every single guy that walks into a locker
room or officiating pure? No, that's the And I don't
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think that's conspiracy. The I know we all take the
but you know what it's like when you get into
a marriage. Guys will say, you know what, Galt, hey
loyal to death to us part blah blah blah, and
two years in they're married to somebody else. It didn't work.
They say what they're pure and law they're supposed to be.
Of course, we have this delusions of grandeur that think
that everybody's straight when it comes to calling games. I
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can tell you this, if they're not, plenty have been approached. Yeah,
and people were getting approached long before when when I
was playing, getting approached long before betting was a sponsor
in the NFL, NBA or Major League Baseball or hockey.
So does it exist. There's a party that says there's
no way it can't. But I don't believe the games
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are rigged. It's too How do you rig eleven on eleven, yeah,
I can. You may be able to rig one on
one tennis, yeah, or golf. I don't know how you
rig eleven on eleven. You can make a call every now,
but determine the betting outcome of a game on every
Like guy catches h ball on the en zone. He's
clearly and you say, no, no, no, he's not in the endzone.
I mean, come on, dude, you're just flashing me on sign,
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you know what I'm saying. So unless players, a player
and an official are in on it together, I just
it's hard to fathom. But I think we're past conspiracy
theories on some I think it is legitimate for people
to question sometimes when you think there's no way on
God's green Earth they missed that call, and then they
go check it out and they still miss it. You're like, come,
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what in the hell is going on here? I do
believe it's all worthy of the.
Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
Banter we're having, no question, I don't think there's the
pureness that we think as far as officials.
Speaker 6 (01:15:11):
Let's put ourselves real quick, and I promise I'm staying
here now. I never ever I wasn't a better grow
I mean, you know, you bet your buddy on a
golf course or shooting free throws.
Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
Right.
Speaker 6 (01:15:20):
I was never a sports gambler in college or highs.
I didn't have the money to do it. Nil would
have been Hell now I got ten million bucks, great, Yeah,
but you're just fighting scramble on a scholarship check enough
to get your money for a pizza and a beer
with your buddies or your girl right in college. I'm
just telling you, start to think. Now for a second,
let's put ourselves in their shoes. Middle of the road player,
but an important one in the college level. Hell, I
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don't even know maybe him in high schoo are they
been on high school?
Speaker 5 (01:15:44):
I don't know. Hell, but in college level or pro level,
you're a pivotal player. But you're not.
Speaker 6 (01:15:49):
You're every year you're fighting to keep your job. And
somebody comes in office your five million dollars to to to.
Speaker 5 (01:15:54):
To just in your court.
Speaker 6 (01:15:58):
And skew it in their direction for five mili and
it's tax free and it's cash, and I would consider it.
And you think, Man, I'm at the stage. I'm at
the end of my career. I don't have any money saved.
Speaker 5 (01:16:09):
What am I going to do?
Speaker 6 (01:16:10):
Somebody and somebody, and you go to say five, how
about six? And the guy says fine, But once you're in,
you're staying in. Yeah, unless you get us. They won
that bet, and you said, I'm out. I can't control
the games anymore. I'm done. You walk away a five
man cash, which would be what seventy seven point five
million dollars in a normal world. So you can see
how somebody would say, like you mentioned the NBA, hell,
I ain't ever gonna be a star again the first
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of the No. Yeah, yeah, porter, yeah, And you're saying.
Speaker 5 (01:16:35):
I'm going to be a star in this league. This
will way to buy. I can pay for my house,
I can have roof over my head the rest of
my life. Yeah, not that it's good, but you.
Speaker 6 (01:16:42):
See, you see how that that slippery slope can go
downhill fast.
Speaker 5 (01:16:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:16:48):
Every guy in college and every guy in the NFL,
and every guy in NBA, and every guy plays high
school sports and every so they're all clean. The biggest
degenerate gamblers in the world are on college campuses. Make
no mistake about.
Speaker 5 (01:16:57):
It, no doubt. Dude, walk through a fraternity and you
start talking gambling.
Speaker 6 (01:17:00):
They may not know what's on the test they're taking
in their history class or their dug on English class
in school English Lit. I'll guarant ask to you they
know what the points spread of the long horns of
the a and m Aggies are this week, you know
when they're playing.
Speaker 4 (01:17:12):
I guarantee you that frat brose in America want three things.
They want sports betting, they want their zins, and they
want to play.
Speaker 5 (01:17:18):
Golf, right, and they want then they want to be
able to have some zoids.
Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
Yeah things, Yeah, you're right, they all that's three of
the five and most important, that's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (01:17:27):
So rampant right now.
Speaker 6 (01:17:29):
And if you're a if you're one of those guys
who knows how to go get people to bet, first place,
you go find a college campus that's not getting an
I ellen's not a star score. You asked the star
and see if you can. But you better be careful
because you don't want that star to sell you out right,
And he said, she shid. But my point is you
can see the slippery slope a game. I mean, I
love to bet, but I ain't never chasing money, right
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And as a player, I I didn't want to watch
points for you. If you were an underdog, or if
you weren't, but you never came up with what's the spread?
Speaker 5 (01:17:57):
Spread? Wasn't it?
Speaker 6 (01:17:57):
Are we underdogs? Are we favorites? That kind of left
out there when you mentioned spread? All suddenybody looks up?
What do we talk about? Don't look at that in
the paper this week? You want to know?
Speaker 5 (01:18:05):
Yeah? No, Thanksuse.
Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
You want to find the degenerous, just go right down
to the University Use campus and find that frat house
for Sigma Guy KNU or whatever they're called.
Speaker 5 (01:18:12):
You know, the frat bros. They know the points spread
for tonight. Damn right they do.
Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
They know like, what do we got tonight? And check
it out? The college slate for Friday night? Oh, I
guarantee you they know Harvard at Columbia. Columbia's favored by
four and a half. They know it.
Speaker 5 (01:18:27):
And the smart ones don't just bet the big games.
You bet the ones you said the object to Betty.
You bet where you can win.
Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
Saint Peter's at Ryder, Saint Peter's favor by one and
a half.
Speaker 5 (01:18:36):
I'm a you know, I'm a college basketball guy. They's
a sucker for a good parlay, are we all? Yep?
Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
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Speaker 6 (01:20:04):
We want to win.
Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Sean Salisbury continues on seven.
Speaker 5 (01:20:07):
Ninety Andy, what's happening.
Speaker 11 (01:20:11):
We forgot to mention running backs yesterday? Great running backs?
Speaker 4 (01:20:15):
Oh yeah, we did forget the running back position. Uh
Joe Mixon and uh Darry and uh whom.
Speaker 6 (01:20:22):
I missing Damon Damian Peers. That's a solid mixing. Takes
it to an A. That's a solid B plus.
Speaker 5 (01:20:31):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the BEA.
Speaker 6 (01:20:32):
I don't I don't think that position was a weakness.
That position was a strength.
Speaker 11 (01:20:36):
Yeah, and I think he could have been I don't
think it was exploded enough either.
Speaker 5 (01:20:40):
More more production in the past game with the running backs.
Speaker 11 (01:20:44):
Yeah, and also Beck as a fullback what they bought
him in the last game to do that? How crazy? Hey,
look here real quick on the free agents, just on
the ones that uh I picked that that that main something?
What do you think Giggs?
Speaker 6 (01:21:04):
Depending on how much I need to know the money?
Speaker 11 (01:21:08):
If the money if on all these if the money's right, let's.
Speaker 6 (01:21:13):
Yes, I would he was having a he was having
another thousand yard season, I would definitely sign him.
Speaker 5 (01:21:18):
Uh, knowing the money's right.
Speaker 11 (01:21:21):
How about if you know that money would get you Higgins.
Speaker 6 (01:21:26):
Coming off an injury, I'd probably have to I'd probably
have to say give me t Higgins at this stage.
If you're Cincinnati, I think you're dumb for even letting
that guy out of the building.
Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
You can't.
Speaker 11 (01:21:40):
I don't know if they got the money to be.
Speaker 6 (01:21:41):
To pay you know what, they better find somebody. They
better move somebody else around and do everything they can
to pay that.
Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
So the purgatory that they're going to be in is
they've got Trey Henderson, Jamar Chase, Anti Higgins all going
to be needing money.
Speaker 6 (01:21:53):
Good paying them all to you? I mean because because
number two makes number one pretty damn good. Meaning the
meaning with Chase, if you're just the number one and
there ain't nobody else on your team, it gets tougher
and tougher to do and chase out a monster year.
Speaker 5 (01:22:07):
He's gonna get paid. But there's got to be a
way for them to keep.
Speaker 6 (01:22:10):
You got to have two of them. And if they
let him get away that that's the drug test thement. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (01:22:16):
But if he's yeah, that's pretty much the only offensive
guys that's free agent that you got to make a choice.
All the other guys are like Woods and Dare and
teen them and that's no big deal. But now defense
you got you got two guys, you got fat at
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Causey and Edwards. I think you gotta sign both.
Speaker 6 (01:22:40):
Those great, especially with where they play in what you need.
I don't think there's any doubt. And I be shocked
if they don't. This defense doesn't need a lot of
doesn't need a lot of bodies. They needed to, you know,
just a few things to you know, to to shore
some things up. And uh, but I I you got
to have all though those big fellows at the line
of I mean, you got to have as many of
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those as you can. And those both guys, I thought
both guys took a step in the right direction this year.
Speaker 11 (01:23:06):
Oh I do too. I think they I think they
should have been paid twice as much what they got
paid from what for the output they that's fair? No teeth,
I mean teeth. Murray, Yeah, you get him, but you
don't want him being a starter like you had to
be this year because all the injuries, highness, you know,
probably not en Hansen, probably not Barnett maybe, but is
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ward of free agent. I didn't see him on the list.
I thought he was a I thought they only signed
him for two years.
Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
I thought they extended him another year. I thought they
exercised that option or whatever it was. Yeah, yeah, they
got him for an additional year.
Speaker 11 (01:23:44):
Okay, what He's basically been a mediocre player at best.
Speaker 5 (01:23:51):
Right, he just can't stay healthy. He can't ever stay healthy.
Speaker 11 (01:23:56):
You know, it just doesn't seem like he produced. I mean,
just your eye your eye test. Consider his last year
compared to Bullocks this year. I think I think Bullock
had I test is is just as good. He's a rookie.
Speaker 6 (01:24:16):
Yeah, Bullet's eye test is off the charts. That guy's got.
His upside is sick.
Speaker 11 (01:24:23):
So so going into going into free agency and uh,
and look, I don't think you can trade. You're stuck
with Howard touns on Mason. You can get out of
Mason's contract.
Speaker 5 (01:24:35):
I think you can. Yeah, Shaq Mason, excuse me.
Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
You can save some money actually if you cut him
after June fifth, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 11 (01:24:44):
Yeah, this year, Yeah, you can save money. Yeah. But
the other two guys Howard, yeah, yeah, and so and
and you can't trade Shoults, right nobody chief?
Speaker 6 (01:24:59):
Yeah, well you William might. You might only get an
apple in a roadmap for him.
Speaker 5 (01:25:02):
But it's something he couldn't block. He couldn't block me.
It was disappointing. I expected more out of him this year.
Speaker 11 (01:25:10):
You guys understand this blocking is like rebounding in the NBA.
You just gotta want to do it.
Speaker 5 (01:25:15):
Yeah, exactly good. That's a really good comparison.
Speaker 6 (01:25:18):
No doubt about it. It's it's effort. It's effort, it said.
Speaker 11 (01:25:22):
That's exactly right. You just got to say screw it.
That guy that divisive ends thirty pounds bigger than I am,
and he's probably fifty stronger than I am. But I
just got to meet up and bust him in his
in his face.
Speaker 5 (01:25:36):
The way that position works, no doubt.
Speaker 11 (01:25:39):
That's right. And well, so going into free agency and
then draft. I'm thinking you got to look for a
tight end quickly. Most of it's going to be offense.
Speaker 5 (01:25:51):
Right, agreed.
Speaker 6 (01:25:53):
Yeah, I gotta find I gotta find depth at tight end.
Speaker 5 (01:25:56):
And it's in a star. I got it that that's
gotta happen.
Speaker 11 (01:25:59):
I think that's the number one position, right, tied.
Speaker 6 (01:26:01):
In and and if if you if you tell me
the receivers are healthy on offense, that in offensive line.
Speaker 5 (01:26:08):
Yeah, they kind of go hand in hand, no doubt
about it.
Speaker 10 (01:26:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (01:26:11):
And I think you got to in free agency. I
think the key thing if you don't sign Diggs, I
think you got to get your a top receiver.
Speaker 5 (01:26:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 17 (01:26:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:26:20):
Oh, and you gotta hope he's a one, not a two.
I mean he'll be the one, he'll be the two
here with Nico Collins. But you got to treat it
like you're going to get a number one receiver.
Speaker 5 (01:26:28):
I agree.
Speaker 11 (01:26:29):
So let's say you get Higgins because of that with
mix and having that inside trading position because he knows him.
Let's say they get Higgins. So you got Higgins, Nico Mitchi, Hutchison.
You're gonna let Woods go, I believe. So are you
happy with Michi and Husson and being your number three
and four.
Speaker 5 (01:26:50):
I still think there's growth there. I'm not. I think
I can. I'm starting with John Metchi.
Speaker 6 (01:26:56):
We're just starting to see him elevate because of everything
he's been through. I'm okay as three and far away.
And you know, Tank Dell may not be back next year.
But when you when Dell gets back and you go
get a T. Higgins or a guy like that, and
you have Nico Collins and then you have a Hutchinson
and a Mechi that continue to grow that the pressures
not on them to be that guy. They just got
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to be a guy in the lineup that makes a difference. Yeah,
I'm okay with them. I'm okay. I think they're both.
I think there's some growth there.
Speaker 5 (01:27:23):
I do.
Speaker 6 (01:27:24):
The offense is solid in certain places, but they've got
to get better up front. It won't matter what the
perimeter people like. And defense is your strength, make no
mistake about it.
Speaker 5 (01:27:32):
Appreciate the call. Andy. We got to get into stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:27:34):
Andy, we got to get into the eight o'clock hour
next right here on the Seawan Salisbury.
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Speaker 4 (01:28:14):
Texans continuing their interviews for their open Offensive coordinator position.
Oh buddy, Justin Tucker kicker for the Baltimore Ravens once
at the University of Texas. He is in some hot water,
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My goodness, Ravens. Justin Tucker has been accused of inappropriate
sexual behavior by six massage therapists. It's been alleged that
he has engaged in inappropriate, inappropriate behavior at four high
end spas and wellness centers in the Baltimore region, according
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to six different massage the including exposing his genitals, brushing
two of them with his exposed penis, and leaving what
they believed to be.
Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
Basically him finishing on a table.
Speaker 6 (01:29:13):
This is such an uncomfortably didn't want to read that word.
It's so cringe worthy, man, how are we supposed to.
Speaker 5 (01:29:19):
Comment on this? Not knowing?
Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
And then several therapists said that Tucker's behavior was so
agregious egregious that they ended his sessions early or refused
to work on him again, and two of the spas
banned him from returning. This is this is the same
thing that happened with Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 5 (01:29:35):
Wasn't this twenty twelve to twenty sixteen? Correct? And we're
in twenty twenty five. Yeah, why is it taking so long?
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (01:29:44):
Well, I wish I had a comment on it other
than we've we've If he did it, then he's then
he's not real bright. It's always my question, what were
you thinking? Come on there, there's almost ten years ago, yeah,
omber ten years ago. Yeah, why Now, I'm not saying
who's who. I have zero idea what his massage sessions are. Like,
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that's them and him, and they're going to deal with it.
So the comment we all know it's it's it's it's like, yeah,
all right, gross, But I have no idea he said.
They're they're obviously vehemently denying it, and you know they're
going to talk to money grab and all that stuff.
And he's a high he's a you know, a celebrity
in the town and all that I have. I've read
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it and it's it's not good.
Speaker 5 (01:30:31):
But then you ask why.
Speaker 6 (01:30:32):
I'm not saying he did or didn't do it, but
why didn't it happen in twenty twelve? Why why in
twenty twenty five did he pissed somebody off along the way,
didn't pay him off? Or did they? Is it not
true at all? And it's just a you know they're
going the moment. I don't know. I have no idea
that I know the names are, you know, to protect
them in privacy, so Baltimore Ravens, you know, or the fans,
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or if somebody doesn't you know, you know, go after them.
I have zero idea, man, And it's just it's a
it's such a we've seen, We've talked about this movie
ad nauseum. If you're doing it wrong, then you're doing
it wrong and you should be dealt with accordingly. If
it's them, then they should be dealt with accordingly. Other
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than that, I have zero idea other than guess what.
At some point in time, they'll come to an agreement,
they'll come to whatever, or it'll just go away, or
it'll get settled, or they'll be in court. Who knows,
and then and only then Right now, it's simply he said,
She said, and I really don't have any idea. I
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haven't spoken five words of Justin Tucker in my life,
and I don't even know whether that's a I'm assuming
that all those places you named are somewhere near his
home town where they play their football. I just it,
and it's so I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (01:31:53):
Yeah, Justin Tucker put out a statement yesterday and just
I'm not gonna read it denied it.
Speaker 11 (01:31:58):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:31:58):
Yeah, he said, the allegations in the Baltimore Banner, the
Baltimore Banner is the newspaper are uh uh, that's writing
that wrote this article. The allegations in the Baltimore Banner
article about me are unequivocally false. And then there's it's one,
two three, It's like six paragraphs along. He writes details
in there in regards I guess they tried to uh,
I guess he found out that this newspaper was going
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to be writing this article. He had his attorney reach
out to him. They had a third party that was involved,
the all kinds of different stuff and apparently allegedly these
there's allegations against him, and there's also alligator agations against
the Baltimore Banner. According to Justin Tucker and his legal
team that they tried to Basically they're trying this is
a slander piece against him.
Speaker 6 (01:32:37):
Well what did they do? We know why it would
be slander. I mean, what did he do to them
that would make them want to write the article?
Speaker 5 (01:32:45):
I don't know. So it's a local paper over there, right,
mm hmm.
Speaker 6 (01:32:50):
Well it's uh, you know, I'm sure some way, somehow
it works itself.
Speaker 5 (01:32:56):
I don't want to say, work it out me and
it'll all be you know, you.
Speaker 6 (01:32:59):
Know, everybody jants around singing kumbay ah, but ill you know,
people are going to be quick through. I don't know
who did how you judge this? I have zero, just
like who knows? But I know this. If he did that,
he's a pig. If he didn't do it, then they
ought to be punished, just like we said at the time.
All along, you know, we're sitting there going one after
the other build up in the Watson thing. Who the
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hell knows all that were involved, And you know that
was a you know, such a beatdown for everybody. I'm
sure even talking about it was a beatdown. Right in
this case, if Tucker's doing the doing it, then they
ought to they ought to take the same exact approach
the other guy got you did his and got pay
two hundred thirty million dollars right the pay raise went
(01:33:43):
to him. So and I don't have any idea of
meaning Watson. I don't have any idea Tucker. If he
did it, then deal with him accordingly, just like you would.
Speaker 5 (01:33:51):
I mean that.
Speaker 6 (01:33:52):
If not, then they're going to delve deep into why
are they saying this? Why the paper?
Speaker 5 (01:33:56):
Why him?
Speaker 6 (01:33:57):
I listen, we're so far removed from that. I have
zero Watson was local and we you know, I have
no idea, do you? I mean, I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (01:34:05):
I just this is essentially another Deshaun Watson alligator. These
are Deshaun Watson allegations, but against Justin Tucker at a.
Speaker 5 (01:34:12):
High end place. Yeah, it's it's it's a's it's a.
Speaker 6 (01:34:17):
Shame if that they had to go through that the ladies,
if it happened, and if Justin Tucker didn't do it,
then I I I honestly think you gotta you gotta
punish accusations as much as you do, almost as much
you do, and the the the person who did you
know what I'm saying, if he didn't do them, because
that's that's putting us, you know. Then think about how
people are gonna look at him if even if it's
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not true you know what I'm saying, or false. So
I don't know if it's false, If it's real, he
and them know and deal with the good or the
bad accordingly, whatever that takes.
Speaker 4 (01:34:51):
I don't know, man, this this don't NFL teams have
missos therapists.
Speaker 6 (01:34:59):
I think at that of those facilities a bunch of
players go to. I thought I read where there's one
or two of those high end spots where they treat
other players from the Baltimore Ravens. So I don't know.
I don't know. Get that hammy, man, get that hammy,
you know, but keep shorts on while you're doing it.
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I don't have any idea.
Speaker 5 (01:35:22):
I don't either. I'm sure it's uncomfortable for them.
Speaker 6 (01:35:26):
I'm sure it's uncomfortable for him, everybody involved, and it's
it's one of those.
Speaker 5 (01:35:30):
Things like you roll your eyes like, okay again.
Speaker 4 (01:35:32):
Again, that's one of the again. Really we're about to
go through this whole thing again. Obviously we're not, because
it's not long. I mean, he is from me. He
went to Westlake High School. We went to the University
of Texas a couple of hours down the road. We're
not going to beat it down like we did for
Deshaun Watson because he's not a part of the Texans.
Speaker 5 (01:35:44):
But it's like, do it again again in any of
these cases within it.
Speaker 6 (01:35:49):
It doesn't matter what sport, what walk of life you're from.
If they did it and they find out, then whatever
that punishment is, accordingly, you put it on them and
if you and shame on him. If if if he
didn't do it, shame on the those that are accusing.
And uh, you know, sometimes the story lies somewhere in between.
I don't know, Brian, it's a it's it's it shouldn't
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be talking And because it's a story, so you talk
about it's just like nobody wants to talk about this nonsense.
Speaker 5 (01:36:14):
He didn't want to talk about it.
Speaker 6 (01:36:15):
It just and it just doesn't go away because one
after the other, and he's got to defend himself, and
he did it in six paragraphs.
Speaker 5 (01:36:21):
He probably doesn't need to write a seventh.
Speaker 6 (01:36:22):
You've defended yourself and you're gonna have to set out
there and keep trying to The more you talk about
it the more.
Speaker 5 (01:36:26):
I'm sure his attorneys are saying the same thing.
Speaker 6 (01:36:28):
And for the the ladies involved, I'm sure it's you know,
it's gonna be one of those that we won't have an.
Speaker 5 (01:36:33):
Answer anytime soon.
Speaker 6 (01:36:35):
Nine years later though, that well, that that's that's a
part a decade later. That's a part that's bothered twenty
twelve to twenty sixteen, and you're waiting until twenty twenty five. Yeah,
that that there's always that odd Why now, I don't know, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:36:47):
You know, we're talking about these you know, just allegations.
Uh Joy Taylor, she brought the girls back out?
Speaker 5 (01:36:53):
Do you see it? I don't watch that show.
Speaker 4 (01:36:55):
Yeah I don't either, but it gets on Twitter and
oh it was no like like someone posted a picture.
She said, oh you know, she let the heat go
down for two weeks and now the girls are back out,
are they? Oh yeah, dude, those those hammers are are
back out.
Speaker 5 (01:37:08):
Man, Really trying to lighten the mood.
Speaker 6 (01:37:12):
Here's hard. Yeah, well, thank you exactly. You know, a
nice segue. Now you're talking about upper body strikes.
Speaker 9 (01:37:17):
I didn't want to.
Speaker 5 (01:37:18):
I didn't want to know. There's detail, and I'm not
going to there's.
Speaker 6 (01:37:21):
Nothing good to talk about about any of those details.
Speaker 5 (01:37:23):
Joys.
Speaker 6 (01:37:24):
The details are like bad boys. Yeah, man, I haven't
seen them, but I mean I wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (01:37:32):
She's comfortable.
Speaker 6 (01:37:32):
If she's comfortable with her with her drip, how about it,
you know, whatever, whatever whatever it.
Speaker 5 (01:37:39):
Is situated drip.
Speaker 6 (01:37:42):
Who Charlie and then his name was at the exect
executive white him and they both like to drip.
Speaker 5 (01:37:49):
I loved it.
Speaker 6 (01:37:49):
Put intended. You know, I was talking about clothes, so
was I. Oh yeah, I got you, Yeah, I got you. Listen.
I I'm sure she got approval with the the attire whatever.
Speaker 5 (01:38:02):
How do you.
Speaker 6 (01:38:05):
Yeah, by the way, the Super Bowls?
Speaker 5 (01:38:09):
Actually you're ready, you're ready for your Alex pregnant up dates?
Speaker 6 (01:38:12):
Yeah yeah, I mean it's just iron we're talking.
Speaker 5 (01:38:15):
Maybe not by you have to say, oh, I know
she tuck him away. Now they're back. Is that what
the guy said? Yeah, I don't know, dude, I am no.
Speaker 6 (01:38:23):
They never they never were not on TV. So I
guess they're handling internally and they're doing their jobs and yeah,
hey they can deal with their own sex life. I
want no part of of that. Hard pass Okay, yeah,
no thanks.
Speaker 4 (01:38:36):
No man, ye no, just you know, she's what what
did what did Jason Wilock say?
Speaker 5 (01:38:41):
What was it? Peter Butter's skin, Peanu butter skin.
Speaker 6 (01:38:44):
Yeah, those big I can't remember what did he say?
Those big large something cannons, cannons, cans cans.
Speaker 5 (01:38:57):
With what man with with alright? Oh god, man for.
Speaker 6 (01:39:04):
Those folks, right, No, man. Marcellus Wiley also in.
Speaker 5 (01:39:07):
That as well. You know, hey, college hoops tonight.
Speaker 4 (01:39:12):
Yeah, man, got a big, big, big slate of games tonight,
Cornell and Dartmouth coming up at six o'clock ESPN, plus
some of the things you got to cover in sports
just flat out south man. I didn't want to read
like the stuff that I prepared to read. I was like,
I'm not reading that. I'm not reading that.
Speaker 5 (01:39:25):
It's just so, it's so cross, it is gross.
Speaker 6 (01:39:29):
So who I hope they get it all worked out
and everybody walks away and gets to move on whatever
it is that they got to work out.
Speaker 5 (01:39:37):
Otherwise, miss me with.
Speaker 4 (01:39:40):
All that time, I'm with you, man, I'm with you.
Let's get let's get ready for our Alex Braakman update.
It's a big one.
Speaker 5 (01:39:46):
Let's go. Is there a breggay bomb? I've never heard
to say that. Don't stop. What do you say that?
That's not like me, It's not like you. It's got
that top. It got you all thrown off man.
Speaker 6 (01:39:53):
Next bomb, There you go. Maybe for somebody else, blubber.
Speaker 5 (01:40:00):
We have your Alex Bregmant update. Next. Can't wait, can't
wait either, Let's talk about it.
Speaker 2 (01:40:07):
Let the celebration start.
Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
War Sean Salisbury. It's a Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 4 (01:40:14):
It's time for your long awaited Alex Bregmant update.
Speaker 5 (01:40:20):
You ready for it? You pumped? I am baited breath
and you can't wait? I I mean I am tripping.
I'm so yeah, you know into it right now? Yeah?
What you got for me?
Speaker 4 (01:40:33):
You know, I can triple Can we get a soft bed?
You know, like some kind of like just instrumental, whatever
you pick, just real quick, a soft some kind of instrumental,
I don't care. Saxophone, maybe some funky I don't know something.
This is a big one. It's a big update, and
I know everyone's pumped about it. You know, I just think,
(01:40:55):
excuse me, just think a soft bed would be great
for it. I know the Matt Thomas Show they have
like their own little liner now because they're they're they're
on the edge of their seat for they're Alex Bregman update.
Speaker 5 (01:41:10):
Whenever you gotta love a soft bed.
Speaker 16 (01:41:13):
Yeah, yeah, A twenty three on sports Soox seven ninety
Sean Salisbury Show, Sean Bryn at Tripoli.
Speaker 5 (01:41:26):
Beautiful morning here in the city of Houston. Fifty eight degrees.
Speaker 6 (01:41:30):
Son's gonna be coming out this morning for the first
time in like ten days. Let's go out for the
Alex Bregman update. Alex Bregman still a free agent.
Speaker 5 (01:41:47):
That's your update. That is your Alex Bragman update. Still
a free agent.
Speaker 4 (01:41:52):
Blue Jay is reportedly making Alex Bregman a contract offer.
Speaker 5 (01:41:56):
What amid astro stand off off? What is? What are
they offering him? We know Tampa, I mean, uh.
Speaker 6 (01:42:05):
Toronto apparently reportedly can you confirm or deny it? I
can't confirm or deny it. I'm just reading the report
that it's only a four year deal and it's for
like twenty six a year.
Speaker 5 (01:42:27):
Well, that bum you're high if he does it. No,
you don't care anymore.
Speaker 4 (01:42:30):
No, I'm just to the point. But yeah, I'm getting
to that point, man, I'm tired of it. Yeah, dude,
just signed somewhere already, you know, And if you're the
Astros like.
Speaker 6 (01:42:40):
A lot of coin, that's a lot of coin to
just sign, just sign somewhere. What if all of a
sudden there's five more mill out there? Ten more mill?
Did I read where the Toronto and somebody the Cubs
were up in their offer.
Speaker 4 (01:42:51):
That's another report that the Toronto Blue Jays are going
to up their offer to try to get him closer
to thirty mill.
Speaker 5 (01:43:04):
Toget To.
Speaker 6 (01:43:04):
Now that's a hell of a negotiation job by Boris
to wait it out that long and still.
Speaker 5 (01:43:08):
Get thirty million. Yeah, let's see, it's a hell of
a negotiation. Excuse me.
Speaker 4 (01:43:12):
Also, something something along the lines of the Cubs also
getting the Frey. Cubs and Blue Jays could be with
these deals, could be offering a couple opt outs, just
like Cody Bellinger.
Speaker 5 (01:43:29):
Who else? Blake Snell? I've never understood it. Okay, what's
the Let me ask you this.
Speaker 6 (01:43:35):
I know the advantage of I mean I know the answer,
but just kind of rhetorical question. What's the advantage of
opt outs? Well, you tell the guy you're giving him
basically making him a free agent.
Speaker 5 (01:43:52):
Ay, whether it's one or two.
Speaker 6 (01:43:53):
Years, what's the advantage for the team, there's only one
if the guy sucked the year you have him.
Speaker 5 (01:44:03):
And the opt out.
Speaker 6 (01:44:05):
Those opt outs go both ways, that they can move
on from him as well.
Speaker 5 (01:44:08):
Or is it just.
Speaker 4 (01:44:10):
Because if it did they like, I mean, you can
get that, But yeah, I think it's a option.
Speaker 6 (01:44:15):
So what I'm saying is, Okay, what that's the old
what's what's the event? That's the only advantage if you're
a team saying, well, I signed a guy who a
four or five year deal. We gave him a one
year you know, first year opt out, and he went
and hit one ninety eight, where you're like, I got
to get out of this thing, right, I don't want
this guy anymore. Right, Other than that, doesn't everything favor
the player? Yes? So why I don't know why do
(01:44:40):
teams do this? Well, because you're dealing with the age.
That's the only way you'll get them, and that's the
only way you'll lose them if they perform well, because
more than likely, a lot of times when they go
out there and kick ass, it becomes a bidding war
and they end up going somewhere else.
Speaker 5 (01:44:53):
A lot of times.
Speaker 6 (01:44:55):
I don't get it. To me, it is it is
a deal breaker. If I'm an I will never I
would never give anybody an opt out. No, I'm basically
bringing a good player in only to tell him you
come here and kick ass, and I'm gonna bridge you
to your next place.
Speaker 5 (01:45:09):
No, sorry, What does that do for your franchise? Yeah? Exactly.
Speaker 6 (01:45:15):
You know what it tells me. It tells me that
you're you're just you, You're you're operating out of fear.
Speaker 5 (01:45:19):
Right.
Speaker 6 (01:45:20):
Oh well, we don't want to piss him off. We
can't got to give an opt out. Screw pissing him
off or any other guy off. Here's here's where your
guarantee is.
Speaker 5 (01:45:26):
Dude. It's in the tune.
Speaker 6 (01:45:28):
Whether it's Alex Bregman or anybody else, it's to the
tune of one hundred and sixty five or hundred and
fifty six or hundred and seventy million, whatever it is.
You get that that that that's what you get. Why
would I give you an opt out from that when
I'm paying it to you. That's yours, that's your security blanket.
You don't get to come here, play like an MVP
and then turn around and leave on us.
Speaker 5 (01:45:46):
But you do.
Speaker 6 (01:45:46):
If I'm dumb enough to give you an opt out
if if you're don Alvarez wanted an opt out after
I signed a contract and want an opt out after
one year and he got a new contract, I would I.
Speaker 5 (01:45:56):
Wouldn't do it. I wouldn't either. I would not do it.
Speaker 6 (01:46:00):
I'm basically saying, I'm encouraging you just come have another
great year with me, and then you go do whatever
you want to. Yeah, and I'm going to bank on
the fact that you love me enough that you'll take
a hometown discount. Oh hell no, I mean I wouldn't
do it, just like I wouldn't give an NFL quarterback
at any point in time a no trade class.
Speaker 5 (01:46:18):
Yeah, you're not hampering my franchise.
Speaker 6 (01:46:21):
Your no trade class comes at the tune of fifty
five friggin million a year and one hundred and fifty
million guaranteed.
Speaker 5 (01:46:27):
That's your note, that's your no trade class.
Speaker 6 (01:46:30):
But three years in, if you're not playing well or
if we think there's a better situation, just like when
you're a free agent you think there's a better situation,
you having a no trade clause, you don't get to
dictate where.
Speaker 5 (01:46:41):
I'm sending somebody.
Speaker 6 (01:46:42):
Yeah, never ever, never, ever, never, never, And I don't
care if it's Shoe Tony, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes and
Willie Mays. You ain't getting a no trade clause, and
you're sure as hell not getting an opt out to
go benefit after I've created a situation and gave you
the offer you wanted. You came in're gonna turn around
to leave after a one year opt out? No middle finger, buddy,
(01:47:04):
you ain't getting any of it. And if I miss
out on you, you know what, every player I've ever known, there's.
Speaker 5 (01:47:11):
Always somebody else who comes along with this good. Hey
c J.
Speaker 6 (01:47:14):
Stroud last year, that's the greatest rookie ever, and he
had a great year. This is the best rookie heear ever.
Do you know who had a better.
Speaker 5 (01:47:21):
Year this year?
Speaker 6 (01:47:22):
Jaden Daniels took him further, had a better year. Not
saying he's better, he had a better year. So they
come around a lot, a lot more than.
Speaker 5 (01:47:30):
We think now.
Speaker 6 (01:47:32):
Generational Which generational come along that every ten years that's
so overrated? These Well, you want me to name eighteen
players in the NBA who are generational players that came
year after year after year. Every year there's a guy
who's that's generational player. That's Tom Brady went a generational player.
Tell he did what became one and won a bunch
superow rings. So for me, you can you can. Well,
(01:47:56):
that's why you'd never be a gym. I'll guarant asked
to you, I'd still get people to play for me.
There's no there's no way you don't get to leave.
That's why I brought you here. I'd like you to stay.
And if it doesn't work out on our end, because
we you hit two twenty and weren't very good for
four years, guess what. It's the chance we took, just
like it's a chance you're taking with us. But if
(01:48:18):
you think you're bolting after a year, after a good season, nah,
that's why all that money is guaranteed. And if it's guaranteed, brother,
you ain't leaving on Meney.
Speaker 5 (01:48:29):
I'm the owner.
Speaker 6 (01:48:29):
I get to control that you don't. And if you
want to go somewhere else, I'll find another player. Yeah,
there there's always another player. Maybe take it a little
longer to find him, but there's going to be somebody
else who comes along that Actually you were we were
all prayed with what's going to happen and who's the catcher?
Yerd has proved he's pretty good. Yeah, so and you
and you can move on from Kyle Tucker train and
(01:48:53):
get some player. So you assume you can. Things are
going to be fine moving on, right the game goes?
The game is a little bit bigger than the player.
Speaker 4 (01:49:00):
Yeah, like usually is seven one, three, two point two
five seven ninety is the number to join the show? Uh,
there was a free agent that the Astros were heavily pursuing,
but he is now signed with another team.
Speaker 5 (01:49:12):
What does that mean for the team that's next?
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kind of plut in words like singing without knowing the words.
Speaker 5 (01:49:57):
Yeah, yeah, there you go. Yeah, it makes sense, that
makes sense. That is yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:50:02):
Seven one, three, two, two five, seven ninety is the
number to join. Got a couple guys want to talk
about Alex Bregman JW.
Speaker 5 (01:50:08):
What's up?
Speaker 13 (01:50:09):
Hey, guys?
Speaker 5 (01:50:10):
How are you doing? Terrible war here?
Speaker 13 (01:50:13):
You know, I'm I've just about come to the conclusion
that if they ever did bring Bregman back, he wouldn't
be a fit anymore. I Mean, you can only push
people that way, that wrong way so long. And my
opinion of it is Boris has really been doing a
(01:50:33):
dishonor to him. And I take my head off to
Dana Brown because he sees exactly what's going on.
Speaker 5 (01:50:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 12 (01:50:42):
J W.
Speaker 5 (01:50:42):
Yeah, interesting point.
Speaker 6 (01:50:44):
I wonder if, like we've we've talked about, is the
when coming back feel like do you have to beg
your way back? Would it feel like it? Which I
don't think you do. I know, I'm just saying the
optics of it. They obviously like him, right, the question
you love him enough to raise this out you bring
him back, or the years to get him here. I'm
just I almost feel like people are tired of it.
(01:51:05):
That's what that was gonna be my next question for
our listeners. It's gone on so long it's almost like, Okay,
if we lose him, which is which is you don't
want to get caught and thinking that way. But there's
some fatigue that goes with it. Yeah, there just is.
And so I'm anxious to see how he handles this. Man, Yeah,
(01:51:26):
really worry into I really really am, But I'm I
am I'm I want to talk about the season coming up,
not about when he's gonna put his name on a
piece of paper. What kind of sees you We're we're
at the point now where it's now starting to focus
on what the lineup is going to look like, who's healthy,
and the rest of it. And you're also sitting there
and pray this is like, oh am I playing second?
Am I playing third? What am I doing? It just
becomes you know, you want to get people mentally tuned
(01:51:47):
in as well.
Speaker 4 (01:51:49):
Seven three two two five seven ninety Adrian, Good morning,
what's happening?
Speaker 5 (01:51:57):
Oh man? Oh man?
Speaker 7 (01:51:59):
I'm last night's basketball game Rockets. You had a lead
in the fourth quarter, you gave it up. I understand
the home momentum and all this. The only thing I
disagree with was the last play. I'm sorry, Dylan, I
love you, but I'm going to jailing in that instance
because he can get to the hoop anytime he wants.
If not, he don't take the harm and probably everything else.
Speaker 5 (01:52:22):
Ah Alex bregnant.
Speaker 7 (01:52:24):
You wanna come back here, Sean. You know the paperwork
better than any anybody that comes on the radio.
Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
You know the ins and outs.
Speaker 7 (01:52:33):
I don't know if this is legal, but I would
tell him, Okay, you want thirty million, I'm gonna guarantee
you five years, twenty five million year. But to get
to your thirty there's incentives. You're gonna back this much average.
You don't make it, there goes a million. You're gonna
(01:52:55):
play this many games in the incent go we get
to the playoffs. Here's another incentives if you're back blah
blah blah. If you win gogl silver glove, you know
what I mean. On and on and on with the incentives.
But you start at twenty five, thirty is on you.
You in the season with twenty eight and a half.
Speaker 5 (01:53:16):
That's what you're earned.
Speaker 7 (01:53:18):
Have a good weekend, fellas the rest of the world,
calm down and.
Speaker 8 (01:53:21):
Have some peace.
Speaker 5 (01:53:23):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (01:53:25):
I have no problem loading contracts with incentives play one
hundred and fifty games, you get this, make the All
Star team, you get this, and say I have no problem.
Which you give him, you know, your twenty six to
five or whatever it is he wants. And then all
of a sudden you say, there's a chance in this
contract to make five million more. You know, home run
(01:53:46):
marks all that if if you load it and then
there's it's listen, we bribe kids all the time with
a candy bar, right, yeah, bribe the player and not
to the point were we say you got hit seventy
home runs to get your two hundred and fifty green
You know what I'm saying, incentive of wanting to play
every day, which I think he does anyway, but you know,
the focus on staying healthy, all those things. You can
(01:54:08):
get him what he would what everybody else, what the
going rate is, and give him a chance by production.
I've never understood why we go away from that so much.
Where the bonuses Sometimes if Mahomes makes the Pro Bowl,
once he get two hundred and fifty, you know what
I'm saying, he's going to make the Pro Bowl if
he wants to. This year he didn't. But you know
what I'm saying, those good plays but reachable, but also
that you got to you got to extend yourself a
(01:54:28):
little go get him, you know, and in the in
in the cbas usually like they couldn't come up and say, Sean,
if you threw for four hundred yards in the season,
you get a million dollar bonus. That that does that
there's that they're going to look into that, right, it's
too easy. But if you if you make incentives and
players want the guarantee, that's just it. But I wonder
(01:54:49):
at what point in sports, as these contracts continue to
go and we got now Juan Soto making what's seven
hundred million, seven fifty fifty, we're pushing a billion dollars,
I wonder what happens if at some point in time,
and I know it would be collusion, but owners get
(01:55:09):
together and say less money, more incentive, pay them a lot.
But in order to get to that next level, you're
gonna have to earn ten million dollars in incentives to
get you know. But then again, you say seven hundred
and fifty, say you're only paying them seven hundred million.
Speaker 5 (01:55:25):
It's absurd to talk about. But when does it stop?
Speaker 4 (01:55:29):
Well, with teams like the Dodgers, I don't think it'll
ever stop.
Speaker 6 (01:55:32):
I understand, but there's got to be a point in
time when you price everybody out of a seat. I
want players to get paid. I love it all, but
when does it stop? I would think about the absurdity
of a billion dollar player, who if you weren't offering money,
most of us would go play for one hundred grand
just to be in front of fans and play, and
(01:55:54):
I listen, reward them because that's what the structure says.
But when does the structure collapse? How can baseball continue
to be competitive with teams that don't want to get
over the threshold, but owners that maybe have more money
or got money and they're willing to spend it. They
it takes money to make money. Yeah, and they went
and bought a championship. They got great players, but those
players still had to earn it. So for me, it's
(01:56:17):
if you got to want to spend it, fine, but
where where where's the where's this ceiling? Where's the endgame?
Where's the salary cap?
Speaker 5 (01:56:23):
Where's the now? I also think with the ceiling. You
need to have a floor.
Speaker 6 (01:56:27):
You've got to force teams to say, you've got to
rereacher within a certain amount your salary cap limb. You
know what I'm saying that you so owners don't. That's
that collusion of let's lowball them and bring the curve down,
and then everybody's like, well, listen, look at the difference
between the haves and the have nots. Part of the
reasons that haves the have nots don't have. I know
they're in different markets, but they're not willing to even
(01:56:48):
spend up to you know, the salary cap level. Right
in football, some aren't. They're they're trying to milk every
dollar out of it. So when does it for? Once again,
the feed the seat at the table that you never
get is a fan. Hey, you're gonna spend this on
a on a on on tickets whether you like it
or not, because somebody else will if you don't. And
then you go back to our guy in the basketball
(01:57:09):
Phoenix Sun's owner decided, you know, with the with the
cheaper oh.
Speaker 5 (01:57:13):
Yeah, the cheaper food and hot dogs and beers.
Speaker 6 (01:57:15):
Yeah, you know what I think, Well, well, maybe small
to some to the fan that ain't small.
Speaker 5 (01:57:20):
That's frigging huge. Yeah, considering the money you spend.
Speaker 6 (01:57:23):
Yes, So most people during the regular season are people
that love hoops, want to go and try to get tickets.
Most people in postseason and Super Bowl and championships, it's
corporate America with all the big money because the tickets
cost more.
Speaker 4 (01:57:35):
You know, And I for the most part, I always
think about it in baseball, like, look at the small
market teams, like how are they going to be able
to survive? Tampa Bay Rays, Miami Marlins, Pittsburgh Pirates, Brewers Reds,
Like look at these smaller market teams that don't spend money,
Washington Nationals, Colorado Rockets. I know, the National time before before,
(01:57:55):
but they haven't done it in a while.
Speaker 5 (01:57:57):
Then they're going to spend to a certain point.
Speaker 6 (01:57:59):
I hope the team will overachieves the athletics and and
you get they hope the team over achieves and you're
making more money at the box office, I mean at
that the at this you know, ballpark or the stadium,
because they overachieved and they got it, which will continue
to make you say I don't have to pay the
kind of money they're paying, or at least in listen.
For some just getting to the playoffs because it's profitable,
(01:58:21):
they're okay with that.
Speaker 5 (01:58:22):
I'm talking about some ownership.
Speaker 6 (01:58:23):
They they star they've made sports is like it was
it was a hobby. It gave them a chance to
own a team. And with all the money they make,
and I want to say hobby some of them, it
is a hobby. Now it's a big business if in
some cases, but they most of them have made money
doing something else.
Speaker 5 (01:58:37):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 6 (01:58:38):
And they're all going to make money when they sell
their franchises because the value keeps going up. But for
some just making the playoffs, you say, why aren't this
team spending?
Speaker 5 (01:58:47):
They're hoping.
Speaker 6 (01:58:47):
There are guys that they just that they haven't paid
as much to overachieve and they make the playoffs and
some for some that's good enough.
Speaker 5 (01:58:55):
And what happens though, when.
Speaker 6 (01:58:56):
When a small market team with a small payroll wins
the World Series or a championship, Guess what happens? Now
that's all you've now they don't spend more. They're like,
we did this by not spending, they're not changing our philosophy.
So even when you win, the fans and the players,
if you want to go play in Cincinnati, You're not
gonna get the same amount of money. And so that's
(01:59:17):
why they keep flocking to the Big five or six
every year, and then the leftovers are going elsewhere.
Speaker 5 (01:59:23):
Right. I don't know the answer to to like the
floor and the ceiling, but.
Speaker 6 (01:59:30):
I do make them spend to the cow salary cap
limit within a certain amount of money, and then the
top level that they gotta They gotta be geniuses and
mastering the money and the capologist. Damn right, I don't
understand why baseball doesn't have one. Yeah, why don't they?
It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, because the Dodgers.
Until you put one on them, they don't mind that.
I know, the luxury type, but that's not a sour
(01:59:51):
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And guess what, because they're Dodgers, they'll make plenty of
money in their marketing and all the things they do.
But still you think they're gonna quit spend it. No,
you saw what they did this off season. They win
a World Series and they're still spending. Okay, us the
Reds win a World Series and guess what they're not
gonna do. They're not gonna spend of course. Yeah, the
guy that they need to keep is gonna get away
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Speaker 1 (02:02:18):
Back to the Sean Salisbury show on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 6 (02:02:24):
Let's get out and talk to some peeps, and let's
start with Holly Holly, what's going on?
Speaker 5 (02:02:28):
How are you good?
Speaker 19 (02:02:30):
Good friddy?
Speaker 11 (02:02:30):
Sean?
Speaker 13 (02:02:30):
How you doing?
Speaker 5 (02:02:31):
I'm doing great? Thank you you too.
Speaker 19 (02:02:33):
I have got big time bregnant fatigue. He's playing with
our emotions. Man, make a decision already. Tomorrow's February the
first get together. I think Boris has done him a
big disservice by presenting bigger than the market is, and
Alex just needs to understand that that that market's not there.
I mean, if he had a contract that he wanted
(02:02:56):
that was worth at thirty million, he had been signed
by now. So I really think to ask us how
it can petitive offer and if he wants to come back,
come back, if not to Hunt's Morris February first, he
needs to make a decision and he needs to put
plan with our emotions. Joe and ban I can't even
prepare properly for spring training because they don't know who
it's going to be on their roster.
Speaker 6 (02:03:13):
Good point now and and and the fact that you're
it's also becomes an astros problem if you allow him
to hold you hostage right without making a decision yourself
correct at some point time, you got to you got you.
You got to make a decision both ways.
Speaker 19 (02:03:27):
That and handcuffs the other young players who are going
to compete for a spot in print spring training.
Speaker 5 (02:03:32):
Right.
Speaker 6 (02:03:32):
And if if a guy like Paradus is on my plan, third,
am I planing second? And I gotta get I gotta
get ready to play both And i'd chuer like to
know what my position is. Let me ask you this, Hollywood.
You if this goes on for another week and at
the end he goes somewhere else for the same price,
will you root for him.
Speaker 19 (02:03:49):
I'll root for him, but I'll be highly.
Speaker 5 (02:03:50):
Disappointed, fair enough.
Speaker 19 (02:03:52):
I mean, if he goes somewhere for the same price,
I would be very disappointed. And I'll the talk of
you know, being a team player, I mean him not
listening what else Tubing has done?
Speaker 1 (02:04:04):
Who does that?
Speaker 19 (02:04:05):
I mean it would show me that he just didn't
really care about or didn't want to come back to
begin with. And I'll root for him. I'll rote form
where ever he goes.
Speaker 13 (02:04:11):
I'm a root for.
Speaker 19 (02:04:12):
Tucker, I root for George, I root for Carlos. Y
made a big part of this team in the city,
but I'll be highly disappointed if he does that.
Speaker 6 (02:04:20):
It's a great point and they have been a big
part of championships and great memories for people here. And
I'm not sure where it's going to go. But yeah,
the fatigue continues. Hollly, great stuff. I hope you have
a great weekend. We'll look forward to talking next week.
Speaker 5 (02:04:32):
Thank you. Let's get out to John, Johnny, what's up man?
How you doing, budd Hey.
Speaker 8 (02:04:36):
Man, I hope we have a good weekend.
Speaker 5 (02:04:38):
First out, Yeah, all of us. I'm with you. Thankes Hey.
Speaker 8 (02:04:43):
What you were talking about regarding, you know, the Dodgers
and their wild spending and everything. My question is, I
don't know what the astro salary level was in twenty
seventeen when they won the World Series. But again, this
is why I keep harping on that they have to
return learned to their original formula, you know, with the
(02:05:03):
old fashioned scouting, with the modern metrics and all that,
and what Luno was doing, because we we were effectively
competing with I mean we won the World Series. We
won two World Series actually, and we didn't spend wildly.
I mean, we invested in the in the farm system,
we brought along some players. We would bring a player
(02:05:23):
like we did with Verlander. But that worked out well
for us, and I think we got to stick with
that formula because that's what was working. You're not going
to outspend these guys. And I think we kind of
lost our way a little bit in recent years. But
I think we just got to return to that what
we were doing before and just again just relying that
old fashion scouting and using the metrics and getting back
(02:05:46):
to what worked and what brought us championships.
Speaker 6 (02:05:49):
It's a great point, Johnny. Let me ask you the
same thing I asked Holly one. Will you root for
Bregman if he leaves for the same money?
Speaker 8 (02:06:00):
Not really, you know, I mean, I'm gonna root for
the Astros. I'm gonna root for the Astros.
Speaker 5 (02:06:05):
Really.
Speaker 8 (02:06:05):
I mean I think, uh, I think, you know, I
agree with what Holly said. I think, you know, Bregman
did get some bad advice. I think these uh you know,
agents say, oh, I can do do better for you.
And all that. And that's why I said that one
time when I called in. I respect some of these
players that negotiate their own contract and leave the agents out,
and I wish, you know, there should be more of that,
(02:06:26):
because I think they get I think, you know, Bregman's
an example, but I think there's several examples where uh
players get in trouble and uh I uh, I don't know.
I think I think the players, if they could be
if they can negotiate and have a little faith in themselves,
and you know, if they have a contract, take it
to a lawyer or somebody that knows what they're doing.
Speaker 5 (02:06:45):
And yeah, hey, John, before I let you go. You
know what's interesting.
Speaker 6 (02:06:51):
One thing I know about players when they're talking their agents,
no player in the history, none of us, ever low Baldar.
Speaker 5 (02:07:00):
You know, we always think they're worth more than we are. Right.
Speaker 6 (02:07:03):
Somebody offered a million, well that means I'm worth one
point five. Somebody offered ten million, I'm worth twelve. I mean,
it's true, and I tell you it cost me one
that I've told you that situation, Brian, but it did, John.
Speaker 5 (02:07:14):
It's true.
Speaker 6 (02:07:15):
I mean, in this case, there's no way Bregman's going
and saying, yeah, I'm worth twenty five, I'm worth twenty six.
He thinks he's worth thirty five, right, And the players
always overestimate their value, and in some cases maybe they don't.
Maybe Sodo didn't think he was getting seven hundred and fifty.
But for the most part, rarely will the guy come
in saying, yeah, I only deserve that, not more than that.
Speaker 5 (02:07:35):
Right, That's the way it is.
Speaker 8 (02:07:36):
Yeah, well, I mean those agers know what they're doing.
Speaker 5 (02:07:38):
They're playing to their ego, of course, of course, and.
Speaker 8 (02:07:41):
Those guys, as guys have an ego, they say, hey,
you know you're worth more than that. Come on, you know,
let me take care of it.
Speaker 6 (02:07:47):
The problem is the problem is when the ego doesn't
match the owner on the other team saying you only
don't quite think you're worth that, so so you better
set And then the ego gets more bruised, and then
you go play somewhere else, and in the end you think, like,
right now, I think wouldn't have George Springer rather stayed
what carlos Quay would rather stayed. I mean, I don't know,
(02:08:07):
maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they love it and it's fine,
but there's a part of me that thinks I'm just
using those two as example that maybe they would have
rather been here, And I wonder if Bregman will go
through the same thing.
Speaker 8 (02:08:18):
Korea got a good offer, Oh yeah, yeah, what's three
five million years?
Speaker 5 (02:08:22):
He should have stuck with that.
Speaker 8 (02:08:23):
He's not getting that and he would have been set
for what was it six years?
Speaker 11 (02:08:27):
I think it was.
Speaker 8 (02:08:28):
He had a he had a heck of an offer.
That was a good offer, and he should have taken it.
Speaker 6 (02:08:32):
Yeah, that that ten year security and he never got
it right. And now you gotta go play and get
it back again. Yeah, John, great point, man. We got
to get to the top of the hour. Have a
great weekend.
Speaker 5 (02:08:40):
I'm sure we'll talk to you a bunch next week
for Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (02:08:43):
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Your Rockets fall to the Grizzlies last night, Alprin Shingoon
making his first NBA All Star team in his career.
Texan's continuing the interview process for offensive coordinators talking about
the Astros and Alex Bregman. Oh, Bob Nightingale not to
(02:10:14):
be confused with the East Coast Nightingales.
Speaker 5 (02:10:20):
Not to be concerned with Florence Nightingale.
Speaker 6 (02:10:23):
Right him as well? She as well? Yeah, not him,
that would be That's cool though. Who's counting though?
Speaker 5 (02:10:28):
Yeah? Who cares? Yeah exactly.
Speaker 4 (02:10:31):
Bob Nightingale, he is a USA Today Major League Baseball columnists. Uh,
he's been doing it for forever, tweeted out a couple
minutes ago. While it seems almost inevitable that Pete alons
overturns of the Mets, the Detroit Tigers in Boston, Red
Sox now loom Is co favorites for Alex Bregman with
no movement in Astros talks.
Speaker 5 (02:10:54):
I'm about fatigued. Oubt, brother, I'm out of it, man,
move on.
Speaker 6 (02:10:58):
The only reason I'm not fatigued that if he leaves
here there is hope for my bow socks.
Speaker 5 (02:11:07):
And that way, dude, that's going to go. Go there.
Speaker 6 (02:11:13):
If you're gonna leave, go there, go there right. Any
other reason is root for you there. If you're going
to leave the Astros, go to Boston. Let's see on
I tweeted this out hold let me find it. I
would really like that point. I mean, I don't want
him to leave here. Do not misunderstand me. But if
he is going to leave and decides that Boston offered
him more, go there or Boston Detroit offer more.
Speaker 5 (02:11:33):
Choose Boston. Let's let's choose Boston. Where is that?
Speaker 2 (02:11:37):
Damn?
Speaker 5 (02:11:39):
I'll find it.
Speaker 6 (02:11:39):
But yeah, if it's not the Astros, yeah, why not.
M I don't have any ties to clear to Detroit.
I don't need him in Detroit. Could care less what
he does there. I just I think could use him
in Boston. I think it's.
Speaker 4 (02:11:54):
Funny that that you've heard really nothing in regards to
the Red Sox or Tigers in a couple of weeks,
and then out of nowhere, bam, Bob Nightingale bringing it,
bringing it in, bringing it in with the Red Sox and.
Speaker 6 (02:12:12):
Detroit Tigers. And go figure who manages the Detroit Tigers.
Speaker 5 (02:12:18):
A guy named the guy.
Speaker 6 (02:12:20):
Well, he's hitching closer to Detroit to say, j hinch
till you give him a hinch.
Speaker 4 (02:12:24):
He takes, he'll take a while. And then who's the
head coach? And not head coach, who's the manager of
the Boston Red Sox. Uh Alex Horra some some people
know it's only Hondro.
Speaker 5 (02:12:40):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (02:12:43):
Have it in here somewhere, man, gosh dang, and I'll
find it. But I tweeted it out, went okay, here
we go. This was on December ninth. We talked about
this situation, and uh, basically I tweeted out that, uh,
we bet that the Red Sox would sign Alex Bregman. Right,
So we'll see, man, we'll see if that comes true.
(02:13:04):
I'm over it, honestly, I'm so over it.
Speaker 5 (02:13:05):
You're tired of it. Okay, are you going to root
for him? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:13:08):
I always will. I know him on a personal level.
So Alex Bregman the player, absolutely, Alex Bregman the person same.
Speaker 5 (02:13:15):
Yeah, I don't have a problem with it. It's been well.
Speaker 6 (02:13:17):
It may sting and Holly makes a good points that
she said, all root for him to do well, but
I'll be disappointed if I because I pose the scenario
that I know you're on a call if they if
he left for the same amount of money, and Holly said,
I'd be disappointed. But of course I'm gonna root for him,
just like she does for Spring and the rest. It's
not personal, No, it's not personally. I can't understand why
(02:13:38):
people's feelings may be hurt him. It's gonna be come
back here. It'll hurt some feelings. It's gonna piss off
a lot of people. I can tell you that or
some feelings when it happens.
Speaker 4 (02:13:45):
If he signs for twenty six, twenty seven, even twenty
eight million a year, people are gonna be pissed.
Speaker 6 (02:13:50):
It's gonna be three tiered. Yeah, you're gonna get the screw.
Alex Bregman don't need him anymore. You're gonna get the
what a bummer? Why didn't we raise the price? We
need Alex Bragg? And then you're gonna get I hope
he does well, he did great, Thanks for us, good luck,
but we're ready to move on.
Speaker 5 (02:14:05):
You're gonna get the it's.
Speaker 6 (02:14:06):
Gonna be one of those and the ones that are
pissed are gonna be pissed. The ones that are hurt
feelings are hurt, but wish him well, moving on, and
then you're gonna get the why didn't we raise the offer?
Alls we need to do is raise it a million
and a half bucks a year and we could have
had him. You'll get that too, depending on what the
offer from another team comes in at.
Speaker 4 (02:14:22):
If he leaves, Yeah, people are gonna be pissed at Bregmant.
People will be pissed at Jim Crane and Dana Brown.
Speaker 6 (02:14:26):
People are gonna be pissed at Boris Oh, no debt
that they're gonna be pissed, no question.
Speaker 4 (02:14:30):
If he signs for twenty six, twenty seven. I even
say if he signs for two more milli year, people
are gonna be pissed.
Speaker 6 (02:14:37):
And you'll get more people if he gets to thirty.
The I can't blame him, Yeah, exactly right. Yeah, you sure,
but you'll still get some well wins enough enough, you
know you're gonna they'll just be different layers. And it's
not like I said, I'll never It's never to the
point where I'm mad at a guy for going and
getting paid and there's a reason he hasn't signed because
he feels like he's worth more. Whether it's him and
(02:14:57):
Boris or Boris or him or both of them together.
Then oh well, but it's the same that you know,
we want to speed it up, but if it was
our own negotiations, we want what's right or what we
think we're right. Right, So I get it both sides. Yeah,
I'm just I'm not going to be depended by it.
I'd be, but like Holly'd be a little disappointed for
us for the same price, Like why wouldn't you come
(02:15:18):
back a better chance to win?
Speaker 4 (02:15:19):
You think, right, You've had jose Al Tuvey pining for
you to come back. You've had Jeremy Paeney, he talked
with us at Fanfesty talk about what he means to
the organization. When he meant to Jeremy Painey himself I mean, yeah,
I'll be disappointed, but at the end of the day, look, man,
these players are human, they're normal people.
Speaker 5 (02:15:37):
You were a professional athlete.
Speaker 4 (02:15:38):
At the end of the day, it's business and they
feel you as a player, are going to do what
you feel like is best for you.
Speaker 6 (02:15:44):
I never hated the teammate for holding out for more
money or leaving for more money. I have no time ever, ever, never,
Just like I didn't dislike a teammate who transferred because
he wasn't getting an opportunity to play.
Speaker 5 (02:15:59):
Now, he transferred for now.
Speaker 6 (02:16:01):
If he was lazy at three different places and didn't
work and kept transferring just because it was on him,
then a different story. Why don't we get mad at that? Right,
it's sports. It's a small I mean, it's a big
portion of our life. But it's a well the career's great.
They don't last that long now, Tom Brady, that's rare, right,
those guys that play into their forties. Nolan Ryan, that's
(02:16:22):
that's not normal. The majority, I mean, you get your tenure.
If you're fortunate, then well the majority of them are
out by three years. In my sport, in football, but
it's you know, you, it's a spec you know, a
piece of sand and the speck of your life. So
I don't blame them for wanting to go get paid
to secure their bag for the rest of their life
if they're wise, right, So because we'd all we'd all
(02:16:45):
in truth.
Speaker 5 (02:16:45):
We would we would do the same thing exactly when
we're negotiating. We all do.
Speaker 6 (02:16:49):
When you get offended, if you feel like you've been
low balled, and you get excited, if it's there's more
money elsewhere, and sometimes a change of venue or change
of place scenery.
Speaker 5 (02:16:57):
Yeah, revitalizes you.
Speaker 6 (02:16:59):
Yeah, and that may also be hard for people in
Houston to understand to take maybe just maybe not just
maybe it's money and maybe Fenway Park gets him, you know,
back to that he can't wait, that he's always wanted
to play it. Who knows, right, but we can't. Well,
some will be, but it's not personal, man, No, it's
not personal. They offered the most money he'd be here.
Speaker 5 (02:17:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:17:21):
Well, I'm telling you though, man, Oh, you know, I
know it's gonna they're gonna go.
Speaker 4 (02:17:24):
Off when he signs for twenty seven million year in
Boston or Detroit. Those phone lines are gonna be hitting
like crack. Oh yeah, it's gonna be people are gonna
be fist.
Speaker 6 (02:17:35):
Yeah, they're gonna be mad, but they're also the problem
with it. The longer this takes, the madness is gonna
get replaced by finally, just get over finally. Yeah, you're
gonna lose that. Some of it's just gonna be okay,
you know what's happening. All he did was delay it,
and this is this sucks okay, But and then you
get back to saying, okay, what are we gonna do now?
And then his name will come up in the fall.
(02:17:55):
If all of a sudden, Paradus is playing out of
his mind, says yep, wise move. If he's hitting one
eighty seven, people are gonna be pissed, and Bregman's raking
somewhere else. It's just the way it goes. And there's
a risk always involved in whether you let a guy
go or not. Right, go get the bag man, I
don't yeah, I don't hate until and you never go
broke taking a profit. A wise man once told me
that he's a pretty wise guy. Yeah, well, we don't
(02:18:18):
want to be a wise guy. Wise man, wise man,
big difference wise guy. Yeah, well, what he is doing
your wise guy. Yeah, you like your neat cats?
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you ever seen the movie? About one hundred and fifty times.
Speaker 4 (02:18:39):
I did see they they previewed, not a preview, but
they put out a a Twitter, a tweet.
Speaker 6 (02:18:46):
Denniee's three told you we ain't done yet. Then the
way it ended, you got to keep moving. Yeah, that's
a movie which ones you like better? Oh, you haven't
seen this one?
Speaker 8 (02:18:58):
Now?
Speaker 5 (02:18:59):
I haven't seen you. No, man, dude, you.
Speaker 4 (02:19:01):
Never even told me about the final two episodes of
Landman loved him good, wasn't it?
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Loved Him? I did too.
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but I'm sorry. Yeah, buddy, what Andy Garcia in it?
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Come on, dog man?
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What's going on with our guy? John Hamm? He gone,
we don't know. We're not sure yet. They left you wondering,
did or d Yeah, it looks like Demy's gonna have
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would like to see more. Andy Garcia, you will yeah,
and and just keep you now. I can never get
enough of Bill Bob Thornton. He's great.
Speaker 6 (02:19:39):
I loved it, man, you kidding me? Yeah, it was awesome.
All right, let's get to break here on seven ninety.
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The Salisbury Show continues per Aaron Wilson.
Speaker 5 (02:19:50):
We like to call him.
Speaker 4 (02:19:51):
He will depending on who the Textans hired. Offensive coordinator
Cole Popovich is the top candidate to be promoted to
offensive line coach Papa, which is well respected around the league.
Speaker 5 (02:20:01):
If the Texans hire him internally at OH.
Speaker 4 (02:20:04):
If the Texans hire internally at OC, Popovich is going
to be promoted, and there there's your Texans offensive If.
Speaker 6 (02:20:15):
They hire the coordinator internally, offensive line coach internally know
if they hire the o C internally. So somebody in
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Torre's coming from. So it's either it's either. If it's
one of those two, it's either Bill d Azer or
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Speaker 5 (02:20:32):
There you go, shut the show down. We're ready to go.
Speaker 6 (02:20:34):
Let me ask you another thing. Let's say you're you're
a boss in a oil and gas situation. Take it
out of sports and somebody waltz is in and you've
got ten interviews scheduled over the course of two weeks,
and one walks in and blows you away, and you
(02:20:55):
love them.
Speaker 5 (02:20:56):
You're cutting off interviews and you've done. Can I can
I take that from oil and gas and put it
in when I was searching for a home. Yeah, or
searching for a home, put it into sports. I don't care.
Speaker 6 (02:21:10):
You're interviewing and somebody comes in at and gives and
by the when it's over and they walk out.
Speaker 5 (02:21:15):
You are floored.
Speaker 4 (02:21:16):
So when I bought my house, my second home, I
visited probably nine ten different houses, ranging from built in
the nineties to new construction. First one I went and
saw is the one that I eventually bought. I fell
in love with that house as soon as I walked
in there. But I knew that I needed to go
(02:21:38):
do my due diligence and look at other potentials. But
I also knew when I went into those homes. In
the back of you, I was comparing, all right, now,
do the real estate agent. Okay, if you're hiring real
estate agent to find you the home you want, if
you find one you love, you're going to go to
a second or third.
Speaker 5 (02:21:54):
One real estate agent. No, huh huh No, my real.
Speaker 6 (02:21:59):
Estate people think not when you're spending money exactly when
you know you found one, it's like that's the one.
Speaker 5 (02:22:05):
If you know the one that you found, don't let
them leave the building, right.
Speaker 6 (02:22:08):
I've always said that that if you got them in
the building, don't let him out because somebody else may
hire them.
Speaker 5 (02:22:14):
So what's the difference here? Have they? Have they not
fallen in love with a guy they've.
Speaker 6 (02:22:19):
Interviewed yet it doesn't seem like it, or do they
just need to go through because you leave that glove
on the table, isn't there the more app for somebody
to hire them?
Speaker 5 (02:22:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:22:27):
And then also like uh, you got to not you,
but got to take into account that maybe Nick Cassario
likes one of them, doesn't love them, maybe draw or.
Speaker 6 (02:22:37):
VI and that comes with that collaboration. You got vcation
for me, like shopping for like if you're going for
close or a pair of shoes when I walk in
to the PGA to our superstore and I see it
Travis Matthew shirt I love, or when I go into
a pair of shoes wherever it is and I see
him the clouds, I'll look around, but I'm already grabbing them.
Speaker 5 (02:22:58):
You already where you're going back? Because I love them? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (02:23:02):
So well, then for another day, I'll go check another brand.
When I see something I love, I ain't windows shopping
fifty more times. If I see it, I'm grabbing it
because my thought process.
Speaker 5 (02:23:11):
Is I got to get it before somebody else does,
even though there's plenty to go. You get my point,
And it's the same thing here.
Speaker 6 (02:23:17):
So I'm wondering what their philosophy is is that we
have ten scheduled, schedule them all. Let's go fifteen scheduled.
We're going to go through them all and do what
you do in your house, start comparing what is this? Okay,
this guy's the bar? Can anybody get over that bar?
And he's starting Is it fair to the guy that
comes after the guy that set the bar?
Speaker 5 (02:23:35):
Probably not?
Speaker 6 (02:23:36):
But you know that's it's business, right, So I'm not
saying there's the right way. But I also, for me,
you want to interview them all, but when you find
one you absolutely love, it's really hard. And he also
probably don't want to money. What if I love two
of them and then I can't make you know what
I'm saying. If I the one I love, I like
the other guys, let me get the one I love.
(02:23:57):
I don't want to fall in love with three of them,
because then it's a painting as now then now your
decisions are skewed, right, But I fall all over the one.
So I'm wondering where it is. If you love one,
do you just grab and go to grab?
Speaker 5 (02:24:09):
This is it? I'm done.
Speaker 6 (02:24:10):
I'm sure there's other good candidates. Let somebody else interview him.
This is my guy?
Speaker 5 (02:24:16):
Or is it? We've scheduled interviews, were obligated to go
through all of them.
Speaker 6 (02:24:22):
I've I wander afraid you'll miss out on a great one.
They may even be greater than the one you fell
in love with.
Speaker 4 (02:24:29):
Yeah, I wonder what it comes down to when Nick
Casario and Dimiko Ryans are sitting in these conversations, sitting
in these interviews, does Nick Caceio like one and draw
or not draw Johnson?
Speaker 5 (02:24:41):
Dang it?
Speaker 4 (02:24:42):
Demiko Ryans loves him? Or does he like them and
Nick SiO loves him? How many more candidates are going
to interview? Continue to cast a wide, wide net, But
you're gonna start second interviews.
Speaker 6 (02:24:54):
You know, put it this way for me, Demico Ryans
has to love him more than Nick Cassario.
Speaker 5 (02:24:59):
Yes, yes, I agree.
Speaker 6 (02:25:01):
If it's a player, then then it's a different story
because me Cassira's in charge of personnel and like drafting,
I think it also. I think it flips. If it's
a player, well, Domico needs to love him. But if
the general manager has the power, the general manager is
supposed to. If it's you love two of them, the
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general manager usually ends up making the final decision on
right and that's that's happened. It'll happen every year with teams.
But my thing is right with when it comes to
the when it comes to the guy that they're hiring,
I'm more concerned about Demiko Ryans loving the coordinator and
the offensive line coach than I am the general manager.
Because the general manager is not calling plays on Saturday
(02:25:44):
or is not response he's responsible to give you some
good groceries. But the Demikos and you get to say,
then you get to go back up there and eat
that great that you get to eat the great meal
that was cooked. So I'm more concerned about Demiko Ryan's
love for a guy and I am Nick Casaria. When
it comes to the finding another coach on your staff.
Speaker 5 (02:26:05):
Let's talk to Steve real quick and wants to get
in on this conversation. Steve, what's up, Hey, how are
you guys doing today? Good man? What's on your mind
with this general manager and head coach discussion?
Speaker 20 (02:26:14):
Well, talking about whether or not you interview everybody on
the list. If I find somebody I absolutely love, go
back and look at the following the upcoming interviews on
paper and see if they can even come close based
on what's on paper this card. The ones that don't,
but if anybody's got a chance, interview them.
Speaker 5 (02:26:31):
All agreed.
Speaker 20 (02:26:33):
If you got to work a little bit harder to
figure out which one is best, then do it because
you want the best. And you know what, any fasonable
stone turn.
Speaker 6 (02:26:41):
And Steve, you know, Steve, you know what else about
that too? It's get back to your house thing, Brian.
You know, you fall in love with the first one,
and you start comparing and comparing, and then you go
back to the first one after you've seen no other
that you say, I might be excwed because I wanted
that house. Yeah, And then all of a sudden, by
the ninth when you say I found that backyard just
looks a little different.
Speaker 5 (02:27:00):
I love it. And it happens in these interviews too.
Speaker 6 (02:27:02):
So hey, unless you're afraid somebody, if it's your negotiating
with three other teams are trying to get your guy,
then I get you have to expedite it. But if
you feel like you're the this is he's gonna get
the coordinator job here or go back to where he was,
or not have a job, then you have a little leeway.
Speaker 5 (02:27:18):
But I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (02:27:20):
I'm always looking for the next the diamond that's shinier
when it comes to that. And while you're interviewing, you
go through, but you eliminate the ones. You say, this
guy's three years away, there's no reason to interview him
now if you know you got the guy you love.
Speaker 5 (02:27:33):
Agreed.
Speaker 20 (02:27:34):
Quick comment, never fall in love with a house and
never fall in love with the coordinator.
Speaker 6 (02:27:39):
Good point, because you know what you sell houses and
go and guess what else?
Speaker 5 (02:27:44):
Coordinators leave to go be head coaches. The how is
I going to leave you? Though? Oh?
Speaker 6 (02:27:49):
But when they say fall in love with it, but
it's also people say, don't fall when you're getting recruited now,
don't don't fall in love with the coach. Don't go
to the coach, right and I see for me the emotion,
the coaches everything you should fall in love with.
Speaker 5 (02:28:02):
If you're making the.
Speaker 6 (02:28:03):
One for it's the first big decision you'll ever make
in your life. More than likely when you're getting recruited.
It was the first you know what girlfriend to have,
but unless you're getting married at seventeen. But it's really
the first big decision you're really gonna ever make is
where you go to college. If you're you know, with
the letter of intent you're going.
Speaker 4 (02:28:21):
To sign and you know what they say about falling
in love, Sean, here we go. Falling in love with
you is the second best thing in the world. Finding
you as the first nice Valentine's Day right around the
head over to Hallmark.
Speaker 5 (02:28:31):
That's nice. By one get one free Bogo, that's nice.
You're bo going it up?
Speaker 4 (02:28:36):
No, not on Valentine's Day, the stupidest day of the
freaking year.
Speaker 6 (02:28:40):
So but he's right, you don't. What are you saying,
don't fall in love with coordinator? Yeah, you fall in
love with the cordinat they Eventually they'll either break your
heart because they're not as good as you.
Speaker 5 (02:28:48):
Thought they were, or they're going to be so good
that they leave. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:28:52):
Falling in love is never your intention, but it became
my addiction saying, man, keep hitting that. He's scrolling on
the No, no, I'm in my bag right here, dog
on Google.
Speaker 5 (02:29:05):
Sure you know we don't have internet in here?
Speaker 4 (02:29:07):
Yeah, sure you will. I don't, apparently I do. Well,
what's on your phone? I'm not on my phone. I'm
on my black book on my computer. What's the difference,
doesn't it doesn't interview? The internet work for both? Yeah, yeah,
we don't have though we don't know. Uhuh well, yeah
I do.
Speaker 5 (02:29:20):
Yeah exactly. I don't have it up on the computer.
I gotta focus. Yeah you got it. Yeah. I got
to put you in the best position to succeed. Yeah,
so I keep you. I can be screwing around.
Speaker 6 (02:29:28):
Come on, yeah and read me quotes from from you,
from your heart that you just invented blood what a guy.
Speaker 5 (02:29:35):
I love it. I appreciate it. Literally, Google moving quotes
about falling in love. I love it, and they got
about a thousand of them. Yeah, there you go, it's
a thousand.
Speaker 4 (02:29:45):
Let's get to break got a couple of segments left
here on the show Sports Stock seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (02:29:51):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 4 (02:29:55):
Less than two weeks before Pictures and Catchers report, Got
the super Bowl coming up?
Speaker 5 (02:30:00):
Springtime? Ride around the corner? What's Groundhog's Day? Where's punks?
Tony Phil at? There's our guy at Day?
Speaker 6 (02:30:06):
You got you gotta love p Phil? I call him
p Phil? That's p Phil?
Speaker 5 (02:30:10):
What's up? P Phil? When is Groundhog's Day? Let's see February? What?
Whoa it's Sunday?
Speaker 6 (02:30:20):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (02:30:22):
Little Pusatani.
Speaker 4 (02:30:23):
Yeah, we're gonna know if we're gonna know if we
have what six more weeks of winter?
Speaker 5 (02:30:27):
Or you know? What do you call him pucks? How
do you say it? How do you call him out?
Speaker 6 (02:30:30):
When you Tony Phil saying punks say pusy.
Speaker 5 (02:30:34):
Dog even though you're not a dog. You're like a
what is he? Is he a groundhog? Well? Hints day
in Groundholliday?
Speaker 8 (02:30:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:30:41):
I mean I don't know if fits? I guess? Uh?
What do you call him big? You call him big field?
Or pucksy? Show us that shadow?
Speaker 4 (02:30:50):
Bit?
Speaker 5 (02:30:50):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (02:30:50):
What is six more weeks of winter? He sees his shadow?
Or he doesn't tripley. What do you think take me
looking at it?
Speaker 5 (02:30:57):
I can just do it. Yeah, I don't know. But
if brown seed, if you don't see the shadow, that
means that there are six more weeks of winter.
Speaker 4 (02:31:05):
The brownhog sees his shadow on February second. It is
taken as a sign that the next seeing six weeks
will bring winter.
Speaker 5 (02:31:11):
Give me that shadow, dog, No, you want to you
want the heat coming back? I do not.
Speaker 6 (02:31:18):
Oh see, I want that. I want there to be
no shadow. No, I want to see the shadow because
I was going to say the lack of shadow means
we're getting warm weather sooner. I hate the summers here.
I hate the summer. Eighth summer, it's coming quick spring. Yeah,
give me seventy five or better starting tomorrow. I would
take seventy five. You know what Tod might give me,
(02:31:42):
give me Scott still weather from yeah, but from Thanksgiving. Yeah,
it's humidity that gets you. Yeah, from Thanksgiving to early January.
First week of January. I can take all the winter
you need.
Speaker 16 (02:31:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:31:54):
Now it's time to shift back into spring mode. Short
sleeve shirts, maybe a hoodie every now and again at night. Huh.
And if we can only with my one wish would
be if all the heat it was dry heat, right,
I would love that. But no, man, that shadow don't
give me. Don't give me that full shadow. I need, no,
(02:32:15):
I need I need. Next week we're at eighty two
degrees and throwing balls at the flagstick. No, yeah, that's
what I need.
Speaker 5 (02:32:21):
I need another. I need some more snow.
Speaker 6 (02:32:23):
No oh hell no, no, I'm good.
Speaker 5 (02:32:26):
I'm ready for the San Diego weather.
Speaker 6 (02:32:29):
Ara Scott's the weather regularly for the until until it's
not like that again next fall, late fall.
Speaker 5 (02:32:36):
I just do the one hundred degrees with the humidity.
Just get a good sweat in. You're shoring your game up.
You're you know.
Speaker 6 (02:32:43):
Getting No, we're not. We're not shoring her game up.
I am we are not. Okay, Well I am shored up.
And you know, kids, it doesn't hurt them on there
when they grab the bat, it doesn't sting their hands.
Speaker 5 (02:32:57):
I mean, let's go. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:32:58):
I mean there's that, but there's also you know, the
fact for your cleats are melting on the turf.
Speaker 5 (02:33:03):
If the f them cleats. Oh, I thought you're gonna
say them kids, and well I love the kids. The kids.
It's gonna be like eighty degrees on Monday, damned rights.
And that's my style. I love it.
Speaker 6 (02:33:17):
Yeah, I don't need p Phil, you know my guy,
p Phil. I need p Peel to give me a
minimal shadow. So let's go what do you want, puxy punksy? Yeah,
you want to go to.
Speaker 5 (02:33:28):
What the No? I don't. Why not? Because I could
care less about support our guy. Man.
Speaker 6 (02:33:34):
I support him from a distance. I'll zoom him, watch
him on TV. Yeah, I'll call I'll call Bill Murray
up and I'll just go watch that movie while he's out.
Speaker 5 (02:33:41):
There doing what an underrated movie? Man. So yeah, I'm
I'm I'm all for the good weather. Okay, this is good.
Speaker 6 (02:33:49):
I mean I like the cold of it as it's
a little crisp and you need that time for some
coffee and the fireplace and all that. But now it's
time that if I want to go that, I'll travel
to Jackson Hole Wyler, Montana. But I prefer right now
at home seventy five Sonny, and let's go little breeze
and let's the game seventy five. Right there you go,
(02:34:11):
Joe Nichols, Yes it is, Yes, yes it is.
Speaker 5 (02:34:14):
Did you hear what Cam Newton said.
Speaker 4 (02:34:15):
Yesterday on his discussion, Steven A, Yeah, it's well, I
got it right, great career hints.
Speaker 6 (02:34:22):
Well, yeah, it's bothersome to me. I mean, he can
choose anything he wants. I get why an MVP is important,
but to me, there is no friggin way an MVP
wall I would ever take an MVP over a Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (02:34:37):
Yeah. So stephen A.
Speaker 4 (02:34:38):
Smith asked Cam Newton on the set of First Take
if he basically do you want the MVP season or
a Super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (02:34:47):
And this is what Cam Newton had to say.
Speaker 21 (02:34:49):
We've we've got a former League MVP right here on
the set right now in Cam, I ask you, Cam,
if you could give back that League MVP for a
Super Bowl champ being shit, would you do it?
Speaker 12 (02:35:01):
No?
Speaker 5 (02:35:02):
Oh? Really? Really wow?
Speaker 10 (02:35:06):
Because you have to ask it through this lens. That
was a very journalistic viewpoint or vantage point of response.
Stephen A w ask you this question, and you know,
just to pose this thought, what's more important impact or championships?
Speaker 5 (02:35:22):
You look at a guy like Alan iverson.
Speaker 10 (02:35:24):
The words you stood up on the table and blah
blah blah blah blah. Everybody's not going to be Michael Jordan.
Everybody's not going to be Patrick Mahomes. Everybody's not going
to be these individuals who have the luxury of saying, hey,
I not only dominated this sport, but I also have
championships to back it. Like, let me remind you, Brad
(02:35:44):
Johnson won a Super Bowl, Trent Dilfer won a super Bowl. Respectfully,
Nick Foles won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (02:35:53):
So yes, when you look.
Speaker 10 (02:35:55):
At those guys and you say, okay, what's more important?
Would you have preferred to win a super Bowl? I
think that that's the humble approach. But if we're being honest,
the impact of you holding yourself accountable to say everybody
has a responsibility to do.
Speaker 5 (02:36:11):
And you could say, as an.
Speaker 10 (02:36:13):
MVP Award winner or All American, you've hailed yourself or
you've hailed.
Speaker 5 (02:36:19):
Your end of the bargain down. And that's what it
really comes down.
Speaker 10 (02:36:22):
To it for me, I know that's not the popular pick.
I'm trying to be popularized, but my take is I'm
taking individual success.
Speaker 5 (02:36:33):
Because I did my job.
Speaker 10 (02:36:35):
Football is not about one guy trying to do eleven jobs.
It's eleven guys doing one job. And if everybody does
their job, best famous words of our coach Belichick, just
do your job.
Speaker 6 (02:36:48):
And apparently they didn't do enough of that in the
He didn't do enough of it and the team didn't
in their Super Bowl. Listen, everybody reserves the right to
make their own opinion. And I get it, and he
deserves right. It's obvious. And you know what, if you'd
have told me what would Cam say before he said it,
I would have said he was said, take the MVP.
Judging from watching him in his career, hell of it,
(02:37:09):
freak show talent, all that, and it's hard to win
an MVP. A good friend of mine, Rich Gannon, won
his in Oakland, and I can tell you right now,
and Rich said it on Twitter last night and went
on common Rich would have taken the Super Bowl over
the MVP. And it wouldn't even hesitation if I was ever.
You know what you really want be the MVP in
the super Bowl. That's the bigger award, Be the MVP
in the super Bowl. And I love when you say
(02:37:31):
Nick Foles, Trent Bill for Brad Johnson all won super
Bowls respectfully. No, that's not respectfully. It's basically saying those
guys you didn't think were great players, matter of fact,
I'll tell you what. Over the course of his career,
Brad Johnson put up some pretty good numbers in his career. Yeah,
and he had a Pro Bowl season and threw for
four thousand yards in one year, so he played pretty
damn well. And I do believe Nick Foles was the
(02:37:52):
Super Bowl MVP and a super Bowl champion, So he's
pretty good, okay, and played the best in the biggest
Here's another thing. He played his best in the biggest game.
You know who didn't Cam Newton, thank you? So I
think Cam Newton's one of the biggest freak shows we've
ever had before meeting.
Speaker 5 (02:38:09):
Talent wise, it's off the charts.
Speaker 6 (02:38:11):
It does not surprise me one bit that he chose
the individual He said, it's the individual ward and when
he said what would you rather do? Make an impact
or win a Super Bowl ring? In order to win
a Super Bowl ring, that position absolutely has to make
an impact. So it's kind of all over the map there.
And he's not the only one that will say MVP,
(02:38:32):
but the majority of people I've been around, I tell
you right now, I think Brady would give back any
MVP's one to add more Super Bowls to it. And
he's already got seven of them. Yeah, and went to ten,
so each individual and he reserves the right to do it.
That's no problem. It's not like a right or wrong answer.
That's his answer, and that's great. But I can tell
(02:38:54):
you this that most of the guys I know played
the position would choose the others would choose the other
side Cam Newton in that Super Bowl, and guys that
have won an MVP would choose the other side.
Speaker 4 (02:39:05):
Cam Newton that Super Bowl, Shawn eighteen to forty one,
two hundred and sixty five yards, passing, no touchdowns, one interception,
quarterback rating a fifty five point four. He fumbled twice,
both for loss and if you remember, one of those
funnels kicked around right by him, and he chose not
to dive on the football in the freaking Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (02:39:23):
Listen, you selfish mother, Like, come.
Speaker 6 (02:39:26):
On, a ton of talent, dude. He had a great
season and was in an MVP. Like I said, stupid
ass hat. Guy's a monster skill set, no doubt, man.
But it doesn't surprise me one frigging bit that that.
Speaker 5 (02:39:40):
Was his answer.
Speaker 6 (02:39:41):
Did you grow up thinking about winning a championship? How
many times in the yard. When you're shooting hoops five
four three, you shoot up a shot, you make it all.
They win the NBA Championship, Well you had a home run,
you win the World Series, you throw a touchdown pass,
you win the Super Bowl. Cam Newton, Yet, then he's
go on there and say, well until Josh Allen Lamar
(02:40:02):
Jackson won one. I'm sure he said this, then how
can we put him with the best because they had
won a super Bowl? Neither is he. He's won an MVP,
which is a hard war to win. We know that,
but I'll tell you this that he uh that Cam Newton, well,
he didn't perform his best in the biggest game number one,
(02:40:22):
But it can't shock you. And I believe if he
had two MVPs and you said two MVPs or one
super Bowl ring, you can keep one MVP, give one
MVP away and get the Super Bowl, he might have
said two MVPs instead.
Speaker 5 (02:40:34):
He even still get the ring. So it doesn't.
Speaker 6 (02:40:37):
Surprise me, and I'm not mad at him. It's okay
to have that opinion. I just when it says, well,
you know, would you rather have it be an impact player? Well,
usually the impact player a quarterback, a lot of times
you can win a Super Bowl being an impact player.
So I disagree with him. I would choose one hundred
and eighty and it wouldn't even take a hesit. I
wouldn't even hesitate. And I have won a championship at
(02:40:58):
the pro level, okay, and so I get it. I
you can give me the championship of why you do
it in the celebration with the fellas. I can tell
you this thirty years from now. He may love it,
but they'll remember who won the Super Bowl. We'll have
to go back who won that MVP and his buddy's
laws remember. And it's a huge award and he earned
(02:41:18):
every bit of it that year. But I think the
majority of people would take the team thing over the
individual award. He's right about eleven guys got to do
their job, but apparently about three of them did their
job in that Super Bowl. They didn't they didn't win it, right,
So I just I disagree with him. My mind would
be one hundred percent different, one hundred and eighty degrees
different than his. Yeah, but I don't have his MVP,
(02:41:40):
and neither You've got as many super Bowls as I do.
Hell of a talent you don't have a Great Cup
title of the talent. But it doesn't surprise me that
he chose that. Yeah, let's just put it that way. Yeah,
I like, I just gloss he don't have a great
Cup title. No, he doesn't, And that's okay too. No,
I got that ring that he doesn't have. Yeah, exactly,
And I wouldn't give that back. If you said, Sean
(02:42:01):
be the MVP of the league. We threw for forty
five hundred y'ad through for a lot, you would give
that back to the MVP, I'd say, you can. You
can do whatever you want with the MVP trophy or
award everything. I'm good with this, Yeah, because I remember
the celebration and how it felt and how it steel feels,
and that that's that's far more important to me. Yeah,
people think different, and that's okay. It doesn't make him bad,
(02:42:23):
but I I I'd probably choose a.
Speaker 5 (02:42:25):
Different team player. I would die would as well.
Speaker 4 (02:42:27):
Let's get in the final segment here on a Friday
edition the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 2 (02:42:32):
We're gonna have to turn this matter over to Sean.
Oh no more.
Speaker 1 (02:42:37):
Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 4 (02:42:41):
Apparently made a run at Nick Cayley for offensive coordinator.
It was reportedly their top option. Nick Caylee let it
be known that he did not have any interest in
the job. Nick Kyley works with Michae Lafleur. Lafleur was
fired by the Jets after his offensive struggles with Zach Wilson.
Speaker 6 (02:43:01):
Did Michael Floor go back to uh? Did he go
to McDaniel, I mean not McDaniel to to uh Sean McVay,
Michael Fluor left, he goes back with.
Speaker 5 (02:43:15):
The Rams coordinator.
Speaker 6 (02:43:16):
Yeah, so, and that's that Matt Lafleur, Michael Lafleur, that
whole group, and Kaylee's one of them. So he decided
not to do it. That might so doesnt means he's
going to take not going to take a job. He's
just not taking that one. So don't have to worry
about the Jets taking Nick Kaylee.
Speaker 5 (02:43:33):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (02:43:35):
They don't have a offensive coordinator that are still on
the search, just like the UH Houston Texas.
Speaker 5 (02:43:40):
You know what I miss? What do you miss? I mean,
it's Friday? You know what we do on Friday?
Speaker 6 (02:43:45):
Saying playing that song? No, it's no, that's what I miss.
We can't play it. You really miss that, dude, Let's
go get out early. Do you mean we can't play that? No,
we're not playing it. I'm just saying we miss it.
Speaker 5 (02:43:57):
Though, I don't miss it. Yeah, we do. You might.
YEA song blows?
Speaker 4 (02:44:02):
Whoa would it blow if they were in the Super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (02:44:07):
Yeah, if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. Okay,
but she doesn't, so she's not there. You go, But
then again she doesn't. She still might be, but I
think she's still my aunt. A.
Speaker 4 (02:44:20):
By the way, three time w NBA champion Natasha Howard
is going to sign with the Indiana Fever as a
free agent.
Speaker 5 (02:44:26):
Big news out of the w NBA. We do do uh,
maybe do a segment on it on Monday?
Speaker 6 (02:44:33):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:44:36):
No?
Speaker 5 (02:44:36):
Yeah? Good.
Speaker 4 (02:44:39):
They tried to make it a big deal that Kaitlyn
Clark said no to participating in the NBA three Point
Contest because you know they have that special thing now
where the chairman and a woman, Yeah, the female go
against each other.
Speaker 5 (02:44:51):
Well, she didn't want to do it. Yeah, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (02:44:54):
Oh, that's right, you're supposed to do anytime anybody asks this.
The word knows a good word.
Speaker 5 (02:44:58):
Once in a while, Yeah, it wor especially when it
comes to business.
Speaker 6 (02:45:02):
I mean, sometimes she's gotta have some time to yourself, right,
Maybe she's got something more important to do.
Speaker 5 (02:45:07):
Yeah, maybe she, George, just maybe she just doesn't want
to right. She's basketballed out right now, and I don't
hate her for it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:45:15):
Maybe maybe we'll bring in a w NBA seven segment
on Monday.
Speaker 5 (02:45:18):
Really, yeah, I can't wait, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:45:22):
Hopefully by Monday the Texans hire new oc and Alex
Bregman has signed somewhere.
Speaker 5 (02:45:30):
As we get into the month of February, smart as.
Speaker 6 (02:45:34):
The first, I mean, when is this gonna happen? I
have no idea. I have no idea. And we will
talk Chiefs Eagles because this is going to be a
good game and yeah, super though you may not have
a vested interest, you gamblers might, but it is going
to be a good game. Both are well equipped to
win the whole damn thing.
Speaker 5 (02:45:51):
I hope take one bark that runs for like two
bills on him.
Speaker 6 (02:45:55):
That would help Philly in a big way. Just a
slight understatement, it would be nice.
Speaker 5 (02:46:00):
Hey, you all enjoy the weekend. Yeah, that's Sean Salisbury.
Speaker 4 (02:46:04):
Emmanuel Elmore is our producer Ian Brian Lima, thank you
for listening. We're back on Monday morning at six a m.
Enjoy your weekend, Be safe, Be smart, Colin Uber. The
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