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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saulsbury. Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury there to USC True's longtime friend Shawn Salisbury,
Ryan Lima, go Lobos. This is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Got a lot of friends, a really good friend or
like I said, you know, it's he's almost like a
sorority girl that went to an SEC school.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
I mean it was.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
You know, if you're friends with any of those girls,
they almost had a wedding every single weekend. Trust me,
I lived in it for for over ten years. I
mean it is you know, oh, it's a wedding this weekend.
Although I will say this, an SEC country, people are
pretty good about no fall weddings unless it's a bye
week unless you're playing against you know, Middle Tennessee or

(00:54):
somebody like that. Right then that's when you kind of
have a little bit of leeway there.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
But other than that that, we're saving it first spring
or so.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
No, it is because usually the bride and groom, you know,
they both went to similar school and they're both huge
college football fans, so they're like, well, you know, everybody,
like I'll give you a good example, even though it
goes against what I'm saying. My buddies Christie and Bill
got married on Georgia, Florida weekend. But the reception TVs everywhere,

(01:23):
so of course cocktail hour, everybody's huddled around TV's watching
the Gators and the dogs. Yeah, so there you go.
So as long as you've got that going for you.
I mean, he could be just bull driving too made.
Do we know his friend?

Speaker 1 (01:37):
I don't know doing I mean trivia, do we know
the guy that's getting married? Do we really know somebody's
getting married or hed some Pensacola fat cat and for
the week. He could be, he could be, It could
all be hype. Right. Hey, look, it's his time. He's
allowed to use it whatever way he wants. Right. If
I said today, I was going to give a talk
of speech at Texas A and M after the show. Yeah,
and I couldn't like come to like help you move, right,

(02:00):
how would you know? Well, I mean I probably wouldn't
ask you to help me move anything. But you know
how sometimes back in the day, we used to lean
on buddies momay for but now we just we don't
want to move right, Yeah, right, And no doubt how
many of us have done that or moved to move
to a buddy from college or a sorority, your girlfriend
or her friend right when you're in college, help them
move on. You're like, this sucks, Well, I'll buy you

(02:20):
a twelve pack and you couldn't afford it in college?
He said, yeah, yeah, we would you, so you wouldn't
be able to know, right, So I could neither. I mean,
I could confirm nor deny if you said, well, Sean,
how are you gonna find Oh no, no, I was speaking
to a different department. You'd never find out. Sure, So
right now, in truth with all, it couldn't even just
be fat catting down in Pensacola.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
We're on the honor system here. It's accountability. That's That's
what it's about.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
The honor system in high school in college now, is
that every just Boddy gets the same grade.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
We've decided that because we don't want anybody to self
esteem to go into the crapper. So we want to
make sure that if you're an A student, you act
like a C student because you know, you don't put
any extra work in. So let's reward you for that,
and into you may actually get your college tuition, or
we may actually take your student loans away from you. Yeah,
and you don't have to pay for them. Yeah, but
well the person who's you know, trying to find a

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mortgage has to pay for that. Other than that, what's
the big deal? I borrow something, you have to pay
it back? What a world? So same thing here? See
how I weave that in there? Oh? No, I d
student loads. That's it. That's exactly right. But unless they
want to do away with you know, I always said that,
wouldn't it be great if a president came in for
somebody who'd been through rock bottom or had tough financial

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times and came back and said, everybody's credit from here
back for anybody. If you're eighteen years old, wife clean,
let's go. Could you imagine everybody starts fresh, like say,
you know what, you're like, damn that mortgage rate away,
and then the mortgage rates go down. You're like, ooh,
that'd be you know what I'm saying when you're going

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through those times, Like, wouldn't it be great if they
could wipe that clean, screw screw the one hundred and
forty dollars or the other twenty seven thousand, oh, because
that ends up putting more in your pocket. So I mean,
we can neither confirm nor deny that he's at a
wedding today. See.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
And that's the thing too. You were talking about the
student loans thing. Is my fiance just finish off paying hers?
And I had asked her, I go, I go, how
like seriously, how upset are you right now? And she
was like yeah, She's like, you know, it would have
been nice if this had it happened like a couple
of years later, and you know then I could have been,
you know, able to save some of that money.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
So college is too expensive? Yeah, you boy, but I
have I've always had to wipe it away everybody's when
there's plenty of people. What about the person who struggled
about the people who paid theirs off? Did they get
that money back?

Speaker 5 (04:37):
Right?

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Do they get it back so they can invest in
a home they'd like to buy? Because student loans there
you go to those some of those schools, you're paying
back a six six figures right, yes? And do they
get the back? So I get it, And I under
I would love everybody to have to pay a time
for anything, right, But I I that that I do have.
But paying four hundred, five hundred thousand dollars to go

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to school for four years, not anymore. It's absolutely I
don't know. And then you know, you got buddies and
stuff that have like families of three. I went to school,
did all the you know, even now my buddies got
Oh yeah, I got two sons that are at SC
and another ones at Stanford or an ivy league, and
they're honest to God at the same time, and you know,

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some guy, when you get there, we all want to
milk it and to stay in college as long as
we can, or we were in no hurry to get out,
right of course, who did right?

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Right?

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Last? Like my senior year because I had a red shirt,
I would have been done an eighty five red shirt,
so I stayed had one class one day a week,
second Smith, so it was like it was an upper divisional.
I was like, this is a really fun way to
endo your college career. That was to take theories of
coaching football. Oh yeah, exactly, like this is a command
all that hard and then taking a few summer class
so you have the country club lifestyle at the end

(05:47):
of your career, not during it, right, I mean at
the beginning of it when you're trying to get ahead.
But yeah, man, those students. I don't know how. I
mean mine, I could have ever gone to a private school.
If I wouldn't got a football scholarship, I would have
never been able to go to out had to go
to a local school. And you know, if they didn't
weren't given scholarships away. They weren't giving them away, but
you didn't earn one. I I don't know how. People,

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my buddies and we'd all sit there in locker room
like and then you look around and every car on
the campus is a BMW or Mercedes or one of
the especially And that's what I'm saying because the and
you know, people think sked he was like sixteen thousand
or less undergrad when when I was there, it's not.
It's not huge, right, you see the same people every
day in the middle of campus. It's not one of
those like you go to like A and M such

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a big school, and I get it. You may not
see another person if they're not in your class for
a couple of weeks, right, I mean, it's center campus.
It's it was easy to get around right by Tommy
Trojan the rest of my buddies and I used to
sit there and say, you know, and if you're dating
a girl, she she wasn't on scholarship, but you were
on scholarship because they were in Newport Harbor. And it
was like, man, this is not a bad gig. Man, well,

(06:51):
I mean the yeah, except except all the athletes that
had nobody, right, not a soul. And you're like, man,
and and then they start talking about tuition. Now that
was in the mid eighties where it was like half yeah,
and it was still it was still half and it's
still more ridiculous than it ever needed to be sure.
And then I did I went to school, but he's

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at had their baby sister, was there, their twin brother
or another that they were going three And then there
was two younger ones that were still at Edison High
School in Orange County. Wait, like and they're all legacy,
they're all going there. Yeah, And I'm like, at that
point in time, what was three hundred grand for four

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year education to fifty total three hundred grand whatever, fifty
grand a semester or something like that, not counting all
the stuff you do on the weekend right of your schools, right,
And now, I mean, I can't imagine really if you
go down to what these kids are paying. Like if
you're not on a full scholarship, your parents are paying
a good student. But you know the cond they want
you to go there your legacy so you get into life,

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that's right, and so they send you to one of
those schools that's paying like as private school like Southern CA,
Dollar Vanderbilt or use my school for example. I got
to believe that you're not getting out of there now
in four years. Parent parents like hurrying their kids up
right for three at the same time. Got to be
between a buck five and two. Got to be easily,

(08:17):
especially at the schools you're throwing out there. That's what
I'm saying. Got to be right. I mean I'm not
far off. I guess we could google it find out.
But at the private school scaul sometimes yeah, because sometimes
they don't list like you don't have to list coaches
salaries on a at a private school. You know how
we see in the year of the paper.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Will always come out standing.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
You don't know who with their head coach. But the
tuition part of that I have. I went to school
with a handful of people that had multiple kids there
at the same time, and I'm like, dude, and then well,
what's your pop's doll or your mom you know, it's
not just there, it's my mom's are great. Oh oh,
you mean that building when you're driving down four five,
the one on the right floor. Corporation. Yeah, now I understand.

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But to the mere mortals and those minions, it's crazy.
I don't know how. I don't know how people can
go to college and out of state or private school
that and then still got three kids at home and
your parents are earning a living and they're living.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
I mean, it's craziness. Yeah, it's what you know. Tommy's
got a nice car. What does his dad do? Now
he's the head of Universal. Of course he is, of
course he is exactly. I went to school Hilton Green.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Now you go. The name may not ring a bell
to mini, but he was a he was an SC
one of our big alums, right, big time alum. But
he was also one of the he's director. He's the
director on sixteen Candles. You see his name, producer directors
Hilton Green. And his daughter was a great friend of
the PROG. Mean she was, I mean she was at
school when I was there, right, and just phenomenal people

(09:42):
like and every single week during the home game. We
got to go to Paramount Pictures and you know, they
had the viewing studio and we got to on home games.
That was our we'd get to go and watch a
movie because that's what we did. And so we get
to the movies before they came out, and they'd bring
different like celebrities each week or that we're on set,
you know, do it filming at night or whatever. And

(10:02):
the one time we had Taxi and it was uh,
the Redhead of What Turned you know, the act of
the you know, the main gallon the show. And then
uh and Lloyd, you know from Chris Floyd, and they
came in Doc Brown, Yeah, Doc Red. They came this
long before Back to the Old Well it was just

(10:22):
a handful of years before Back to the Future kids, right,
And they'd come in and they'd be up front and
they'd addresses and talk for a while. He was like,
so you get somebody different. I was like, this is
pretty cool, you know, at that age when you're seven,
it's cool. And Taxi was like one of the top
comedies on the planet. You're like, man, we're a Paramount Pictures.
Who were going to see walk through here? You know,
And so but Hilton Green was there and his daughter,

(10:43):
and so I'm thinking, somebody knows somebody who's pulling way
too much weight and way too much coin, but at
least from our vantage.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Well, you also too, in that town. You know this
as well as anybody. You run into a lot of
people who will, I guess embellish, you know, in terms
of what their importance is more than it really is.
Like I there was no better way to see that
than when I finally my seat for the game when
I went to a Laker game was near where you
could see you know, everybody. I saw sand Or your buddy, Yeah,

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of course everybody. And then you see all these people
like walking around and I'm like, these people honestly just
they they think there's something that they might not be.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah. Us more like I said, you realize you're not
You're not that important. Like even when you're playing quarterback
at sc or something like you walk in there, say
nobody really knows.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
I used to get conscious about stuff like that, but
then it's honestly too, It's like, all right, look, I'm
not going into meeting this person thinking I'm going to
be their best buddy, shake their hand.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Hey, respect the career. I love your work and enjoy
the game. Take care. That's pretty much how I feel
that now exactly to l A, Like I said, there's
always somebody now, some want to be some want to
rev up their engine. Pulling up to to valet, you
know they'll shark you. Oh there's no doubt. Yeah there's
a little shark right. Yeah, rind of the car for

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the weekend. But in that town on they spend more
on their car than they will back in my apartment. Yeah,
they'll drive you there. It's like stud you drive out
a great car, but do you want to I mean,
do you want to use some of that to maybe
a place? Or you're not living on your buddy's couch
and you just bought a three hundred thousand dollars automobile.
But you always realize there that there was somebody you
thought you were important, that you're sitting next to that guy.

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Who's sitting next to that guy? Keep you humble?

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Wah, wouldn't it Bezos or somebody that like still drove
I don't know, like a Honda or something like that,
And people were like why He's just like, why would
I spend a ton of money on something that really,
I just only need for practical purpose.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
And why and those they have a different way of
doing things. That's why they keep their money. They'll just
make it. They keep it as they It's like, well,
when you can buy the dealership, Yeah, what do you
need the car for once in a while or somebody's
driving you around anyway? What the hell is the difference?
That's the old doesn't doesn't our guy uh from Nebraska?
What's our guy meet the financial investor Buffet? Yeah? Doesn't
Buffet still drive the same old truck he's had for

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all that kind of stuff. And that's why he's gonna
live till he's about a buck thirty. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (13:00):
No.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
And that's the thing too, is it's the age old.
You know, what would I do if I had this
amount of money? I mean, I would like to think
that life would not change that much. But it's also
though too, It's like you have a luxury car, Like
it's kind of to a point where I'm like, it
feels like there's just way too much downside to driving
this thing around as opposed to me when you.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Got to park it out there where nobody is in
walk a half a mile because you're afraid they're going
to ding the three hundred thousand dollars. Yeah, just give
me a truck, dude. I'm good and my life wouldn't change.
And it's not even they if you were like one
of your a billion dollar company you sold it or
you know what I'm saying, one of those, it wouldn't
change other than your ATM machine would look a little bit,
would look a little bit more full. You wouldn't have

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no debt for your family. And in truth, for me,
I'd still I and I think you guys believe this.
I would still be here. Oh, I would still come
to work every day because I love it. The money
and it gets to a point where it's like that
kind of money, it's great. It's not the money for me.
It's what buy what the money buys you well, and
it's the freedom. It isn't the It isn't the Oh.

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You can have all the good things at the home,
your dream home and all that stuff, but at some
point in time, I mean a toy to buy, a
toy to sit on, a toy, to drive, a toy,
to have it to I mean it's great. You can
only sit in one room at a time. I don't
need forty seven hours.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Well, and you know, here's another Joe Rogan references ought
to do all the time. But he had the guy
that created vice, and he was talking about advice. That
this is Rogan that was talking about Brian Collen, the
comedian advice, and he goes, hey, look, the only thing
you really need is just to be able to go

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to a restaurant and be able to order whatever you
want to be able to pay for it.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
That's that's all I eat or wake up and take
that spontaneous vacation and not ask can we afford it? Sure?
That that that that to me. The money provides you
freedom as opposed to and it buys you a lot
of things. But it also buys the opportunity. See, I'd
like my money to throw parties from my buddies to
come on over. We'll have a good time and laugh
and barbecue and watch games and drink a cold beer.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
It's the no See. Yeah, that's that's that's simplest. Now
that's that's that's me as well. Oh yeah, I always love,
you know, watching these shows. Oh fifty of my closest friends.
I don't even have five of my closest friends, Like
what what? Why don't I want fifty fifty?

Speaker 1 (15:08):
You'll have fifty if you throw a party and you
sold your company from me.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
I'm good friends with Dan. Yeah who are you? I
don't Oh yeah, that's right, I met you over there.
Yeah no, it's it's the meme now that's out there.
If I win the lottery, I won't tell you. But
there will be signs.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
So I mean maybe every once in a while you give, like,
you know, signs here and there. But I mean other
than that too. But let's let's be a snob about
a few things.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
If you have that kind of money, in truth, it
gives you the freedom to do some things. And if
you have like a I love a classic card, love
a Chavelle, you know, go buy a Chevelle and do that.
And just I'd love classic cars or another Harley. That's
my stand, but it's for me. But let's face facts.
You don't have to go through TSA another time in
your life. Oh that that that the old the old

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wheels up card that you get to go where you
want to go. Pop on there and you don't have
to go through anything. You take your dogs on the
flight and go where you want. Yeah. Now, now that's
where the snob part of all of us that he
comes in. It just makes travel easier. Not that you're
going private, it's just I don't have to deal with
all this stuff because I like to drive. Dude, I'll
rid before I'll have to come the same way.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
But I I know for the reasons that you threw
out about, like TSA and all of that, And then
it's not only that, it's the people, right, I mean,
you get the you know, the I can get everybody's angry,
or you're at any airport jumpers that want to get
in front of you to get off the plane.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
It's somewhere to be for me, So do we all
for me. I'll drive. It just gets me to Arizona's
if I wanted to drive now, I'll drive. It just
gets me there about fifteen hours sooner.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
I've got my eight hour rule, is what I say.
If it's an eight hour drive, I will drive it.
If it's more than that, the time you go through
all the stuff at the airport, you're three quarters of
the way. They're to your congrastination anyway, and I like
stopping a little place is a long way that I
have not seen. Yeah, you know you gotta gotta you
gotta go see the place that has the beaver as
a logo all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, you gotta do all of that. You always got
to go see where the beaver is. That's it. You
absolutely have to that. You don't want to miss that.
Absolutely say that's that's a you got to find out
where that is. Of course for Jerky, for Bucky coffee,
sour can I like the cherry sweet, the sweet, the
sour balls cherry soeren our belts, our belts. Yeah with

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you brother, that's me.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
So anyway, that's how we get things going here on
a Friday again. Dan Matthews in for Brian Alima. Of
course you want to get in on the conversation as
we get rolling this morning. Of course we'll get into
a ton of Texans. They are on their Thursday with
the Monday nights. So let you hear a little bit
from Debiko, Ryans and c J. Stroud had Thursday night

(17:34):
football last night, Rockets back on the floor tonight. We've
got time, We've got four hours to be able to
fill you up with it. So we will do all
of that. It's seeing Matthews in for Brian Alima Sean
Salisbury show Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
Ninety he going non stop Sean with former QB Sean Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Sports Socks seven ninety Sean Salisbury's show. Dan Matthews in
for Brian Alima, Triple E, Emmanuel Elmore getting us fired
up here fight song Friday around here on the Sean
Salisbury Shore Tripley.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Has Dan said anything yet that would require us to
hit the that's got to be racist? Yet?

Speaker 4 (18:47):
Has he?

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Even at first? Not yet? Can we bade him into
saying summary? He says, like, oh, Man, a lot of
white boys on Friday like this song. I mean we
then we can punch in. Well, he hates whitey and
we got to do you know what, I'm tri TRIPLEY
and I have.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
You set up enough of a trap eventually I probably
will walk into it.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
So, I mean, you've got about three and a half
more hours to try and triple and I you know,
we were in cahoots about this. Oh we know how
to get Brian. Brian will just say, hey, man, Sean,
I didn't really think that, uh that Jared Goff played
his best game. It's got to be racist, that's it.
That's got to be racist exactly. I mean it absolutely

(19:27):
has to be. Yeah, no, no Jared Golf Chance either,
although once they yeah, well no, it's the other way.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
It's like it's a huge thing up in Detroit where
at random places you would just get enough people where
somebody of course, you know, it's like a clap or
anything like that, you get enough people who get involved.
Is red wing games, piston games. I think I even
saw a video about a wedding. They started a where
people will just out of nowhere start chanting Jared Golf,

(19:55):
Jared Golf, and everybody starts doing It's tim and they
do it everywhere, and then people start to join in.
I think I even saw a video like at a
grocery store there where people are going to love their
carts around and they're like, hey, okay, I like it.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
I'm going people are at the grocery store. It's a
long line, your irritated. Let's get the Jared Goff's chance
started speaking of which going to a hockey game in Detroit.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
I've heard Buddy, well, it's also to speak at grocery stores. Yeah,
it's the age old. You know you're getting old. Is
the songs that you listen to like when you're in
middle school or high school. Are now the songs that
are being played at grocery stores.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, yeah, maybe even in elevators.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
I also figured, you know, getting old that you're playing
in like a golf tournament. I remember when I was
playing football and then starting broadcasting that you're the youngest
and longest, you know, hit it the farthest. Sure, you know,
you're you're the you're the youngest guy in the group. Hey, Sean,
what's going now? You get in You say, man, that
guy looks he's got to be my You're what now
you're the oldest guy in the group of you and
you get twenty five year olds. I mean they do

(20:55):
like the long You know, they'll have a long drive
guy at tournaments where he just sits there and you
pay twenty five bucks person to use his shot and
you're donating a charity, which is great. Yeah, dude, they are.
And then you know, these guys are thirties or summer
in the forties, summer in their twenties. You'll get a
kid just off campus that can't putt for to save
his life. Sure, but he's a big fellow and can
hit it a country you know, hit it through eighty right,

(21:16):
It's it's good to having a scramble all too. There
is no doubt because they put it in your set. There's
no question. And we all I've always wondered, why isn't
that those why isn't that guy on tour? Well, they
can hit it a country mile. The problem is when
they're staying with a wedge in their hand because they
work on the long drive. Yeah, we're all hitting it
closer than they are, right yeah, hundred yards Yeah, but

(21:36):
they can get you to anybody's that's exactly right. So
I just you sat there and watching bomb and you say,
I'm the oldest dude in the group. Yeah. So, and
then now you gotta get back in the g. You
gotta pump that iron and make sure that you keep
up with twenty five year olds or thirty year olds
and the damn scramble. That's that's that's for me.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Like when I covered college football, when I started getting
called sir, and I was just like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, easy, easy,
mister Salisbury.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
That's my pops. Yeah, yeah, up there to pass away,
So get that out of your mouth.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
But he still always gets so mad at my dad
when like, you know, like when I call somebody mister
so and so that, oh, please call me Joe, and
I'm like, dad, see all right, but you know I
knew what he was doing, but I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Man.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
It's also I am like, I still like if i'm
you're a restaurant, and so a young lady waits on you.
You know, she's even she's thirty, I still call her ma'am. Yeah. Still,
it does not matter. She can be twenty, she can
be forty, she can be eighty. I still call her ma'am.
And I know it's like sounds odd that you're calling
her ma'am and in some if they're a tweener in

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their age, like I'm not, I'm not a man yet.
Well now it's missed right right where you know that
means I'm old. No, it really doesn't. It's just it's
kind of a sign of respect in this. But it's
just something that I haven't been able to get out
of my mouth being I can't not call somebody who's
who's serving you, or when I mean, you know, bring
something over, I would wait, thank you, ma'am or whatever.
I just it just it's just part of my mo man. No,

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it's uh.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
And it's funny you say that, because I actually got
the uh handslap for doing that. When I was in Cooperstown.
There's a diner right there on the main main stretch
right there, Cooperstown. I think it's right across from the
Hall of Fame, and uh our waitress I called her
ma'am a few times, and she finally goes, all right,
what's it with this mam stuff? She used another word,
but obviously for the sake of the story.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Started with us in any of the tea.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, yeah, there you go, and uh, And I just said, ah,
you know, sign of respect, you know, just I appreciate.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
I appreciate you helping us. No harm done, because if
I really wanted to offend you, I said, Hey, old
lady grabbing me my sauceage, egg and cheese biscuit. That's it.
There you go, There you go, Hey on the double,
let's go. We're hungry. Here more coffee when you need
to warm up here. Let me tease you with one question.
If you don't help, please, got to be racist, isn't
it what teasing you with one question? Because it's not

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two questions? You know, why? Why why why do you
stop it?

Speaker 4 (23:48):
One?

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, there you go, Tripley agreed. Gotta be racist, isn't
it everything? That's why you remember that we just do
it to make fun because he doesn't matter. Hey man,
triple how you having a good day. Let's got to
be racist? Why are you asking me? Sean? Why not asking? Yeah?
So we've turned this, we've turned this into everything you
say it's got to be.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
You know, I think i've kind of as you know,
just how we are now in society.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Are overbroad aggression, everything is all of this is.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
I used to be like, oh, you know so, and look,
I think it's one of those that like if I
truly look back at it, and I'm like, you know,
yeah that was a little messed up.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
I I shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
But now I've kind of gotten to the point where
it's just like, oh, well, hey, you know they say
it's now this and I'm like, okay, that's like I
can't tell you how many times a day now I
just go, you know, shrug.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Use now, we can't use now you can use again,
and you can't say this. It's like, okay, I'm just
going to say what comes to my mind. And hopefully,
hopefully people don't overload your mouth with your ass. No dude,
any day of the week.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
But if people honestly think that unwritten rules in baseball
are dumb, boy, it's much more than baseball.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
The undertt rules of life are too. Let me let
me ask you this. Do you believe we talked about
a little Yesterda'd like to get your opinion. Do you
believe this is an elite football team? Number two is
do you believe off season? Had another conversation with the
buddy after work yesterday, do you believe that off season
hype can have an effect on the grinded team puts together?

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Meaning at six and four both years, which team did
you believe in more? Last year? This year you said
only one tease? Yeah, and I gave you three.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Bingo, there you go, And I think I think that's
that's it.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
We'll let that marinate a little bit. We'll hit that
on the other side. As also to like I said,
Thursday night football last night, Philly beat in Washington twenty
six eighteen rockets back on the floor. All that kind
of stuff we'll be getting into as we go along.
You want to join in, please seven one three two
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here in your home of the Astros and the Rockets
Sports Talk seven ninety and.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continued. Whoopig Sue or some of

(26:57):
you out there. I know that you're around here.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
I'm sure Texas fans are probably like, come on, especially
of all weekends.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
We can't be playing this one. I tell you this,
we're talking about nil. This was speaking of woo Pig Suy.
You keep an eye. Did you and I talk about
this with me and Brian? It's probably you and Brian.
Did I talked with this ni L and UH collective
and stuff? In the next five years they'll be a
top ten nil team. You watch well.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
I mean you've got Walmart there, You've got Jerry Jones,
Tyson Foods, Tyson Foods. That's right, yeah, and they're all right.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
I'm just telling you. And who's their head basketball coach.
It's a guy that's it's oh, it's that Calipari guy.
You think he's going there without open check.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
But I got to say, I think if you're leaving
Lexington and you're going, which, by the way, college basketball
there in Fayeful, it's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
They've played and you know that's d That's exactly right. Yeah,
you had Bill Clinton at your games all all those
they they it's and it's close enough to recruit Louisiana
in Texas and Kansas where you can go get some good.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
But you know, it's close enough to get you said,
I've said, you know numerous times, and they're kind of
starting to get this way is a buddy of Mine's
a big Arizona state. I said, you guys should be
the Yellowshue of the West. You really should, because you're
kind of like Arizona is like to California, like what
Louisiana is to Texas. I said, if I'm you, I
just park right there in southern California and tell kids, hey,

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Tempe Arizona it's pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Should check it out. And and I mean this, it's
easier to get into because it's a public school. Right.
I know, I don't mean that just that there's I mean, hell,
isn't that. Al Michaels is a is a guy Reggie Jackson.
Al Michaels is an ASU guy. There's phenomena. You get
out of school what you put into it makes, make
no mistake about it.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
But there's there's there's just as many billionaires that went
to Arizona State as there is that went to whatever
I write.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
And you know what's crazy is it that if when
you go to a school like that and you have
access to you can Stanford can't get you can't get
the same athlete Stanford. At times, if an athlete wants
to go to Stanford, they're going to go to Stanford, right,
That's what it is. Or vander built those schools. They
were just academically.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Remember remember when David Shaw said that and people were like,
oh my god, I can't believe you said that.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
It's like he was not lying.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
I mean, you can't just get anybody into stands, get
in there boards.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
And they look deeper into just what that grade is
and waited grades and all that. But it's just it's
no disrespect. It's the fact that it's easier to get
into Arizona State than it is to get into Stanford
or Vanderbilt. But that doesn't mean it's still not You
still got to do well when you're there and stay.
The thing is, but your your base, and it's an
attractive school very much where it lives. And we're spring

(29:44):
break and the co ed's if you're into that thing
or what it's just got. And they've had some pretty
damn good winning programs. You know, Hurley's doing a hell
of a jot. They've got some you can get. And
I know when I was getting recruited, they were a
big part of my recruiting because I close proximity are
enough away from La I. Coach Darryl Rodgers was the
coach then, and Willie Shaw, who was a defensive back,

(30:06):
he was one of recruitment. It just they had It
was like, man, if I wasn't an SC fan, it
would have been easy to say, yeah, I can go
to Arizona State. And they threw the ball. They were
really and at that point in time, they were damn good.
They had like nine guys drafted from their defense in
nineteen eighty the eighty two draft, I think or eighty
one draft, whatever it was. They were damn good.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Man all right, So you threw out a question, which,
by the way, too, fiance's brother went to ASU. So
we went out there a few years ago and it's
the scenario right here, where it's better to be the
pitcher than it is to be the base runner right there,
because you know, base runner, you can be caught peaking,
you get picked off, you get thrown out at second
because I mean that's the thing is the next starts

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to get sore when you're walking around there an.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Eighteen year old, oh yeah, and old or not, but
an eighteen year old freshman as well, no matter, even
if you came from Newport Beach, California. Right, it's like this,
this is different and it kind of kind of looks
like California a little bit. I mean they're not from
the They don't know anything about the main streets of Esco. No,
they say, nobody wants a part of that Tripoli knows that.
But Tempe, Scottsdale, Yeah, it's pretty awesome. Yeah, be proud

(31:16):
if your kid goes there, and also be proud on
parents' weekend. Now, none wrong with that either.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
I just you know, remember this as I give you
parting words about Tempe and Scottsdale and Tempe, there's a
place called Casa Cisa. And if you are a fan
of certain drinks like a vodka soda, small little buckets
is what they're served in.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
It's easy place to like.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
It's an incredible, easy place to like. It's incredibly so.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
He let's go. First question, does hype you can lead
into it and tease it and come back. First question
to you is does off season pub and expectations have
anything to do with some of the struggles at times
this year?

Speaker 3 (32:02):
That is it is an easy question to be able
to answer, and like you said, we're up against it,
so we will get to it. On the other side,
as well as feeling your other one was feeling just
as good as you were this time last year because
you were in the same spot.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Right, And are they do they belong in the elite category?
They're not talking talent, I'm talking performance. And that's opened
all of you too. Is you're getting up moving around
this morning? Someone three two one two five seven ninety.
Once again, that's Semon one three two one two five
seven ninety. He's Sean Salisbury. I'm Dan Matthews and for
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Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
This Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Spots SOX seven ninety Sean Salisbury Show, Triple E, Emmanuel
Elmore behind the Glass, Dan Matthews in for Brian Alima.
Texan's gonna get back on the practice field later on
this afternoon, Monday Night Football Cowboys in.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Arlington coming up.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
So no, a lot of you gonna be making your
way out there for the game on Monday. Last night,
Thursday Night Football Eagles taking down the Commanders twenty six
to eighteen.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
A little bit of a slow start.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
And by the way, too, speaking of that game last night,
it was also and maybe some of you watched it,
John Gruden doing a live stream with the barstool guys.
We're gonna play a little bit of it because I
mean there were times where I'm watching it and I'm like,
I think, like Gruden's kind of got a look on
his face, like the hell am I doing here?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Like what am I doing here with these guys? He was,
why wouldn't you yet where you could let it rip?
He I wish we could play the cuss words on
TV too. On radio as well.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, he got some of it too as well. He
had some funny stuff there, but uh, I know that
one of them is they have a beer sponsor, and
he had one of the cans of beer with him,
and I guess somebody on the comments section was, hey, coach,
you drink a beer. And finally Big Cat was like, hey, coach,
they're asking you, and he was like, yeah, I'll drink

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a beer.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (34:32):
So finally he went on in drink a beer. But no,
it's a good time. We'll play some of that for you.
But Thursday night football, like I said, and also to
the Rockets back on the floor tonight, the NBA Cup
gets going. Well, they're really trying to get people excited
for that, aren't they. I mean, last year the Lakers
want it, and you know, they got to have their
little celebration, and then they put up the banner for it,

(34:54):
which people were like, come on, Lakers.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
What do you do? Like, look, that's it.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
The only banner that should go up when you've reached
what they are is the banner, no other banners.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Listen. I understand success and all that, but then you know,
I don't want to get into all the well, everybody
gets a trophy, we know the hell that's in the league.
I'm completely opposite that. I think you should be keeping
score with an eight year old. I do because he
keeps scoring life sure, and that doesn't mean keep scoring better.
Teach them so they know how to get better.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Even if it's making see and thank you for that,
because we'll get to your three questions here in just
a second. But I always feel like people who make
rules like that, it's self serving for them. It's not
self serving for everybody else, right, because it's for you.
Oh whoa, we don't want kids self esteem? No, guess
what if kids are out there, We're naturally competitive beings.
That's what we are, you know, Like you can try

(35:44):
to say, oh, we didn't keep score. Trust me, Johnny
and Timmy know we either won or lost, right, and
so why try to fool them?

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Right?

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Right?

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Well that's got to be racist. So Johnny and Timmy,
I don't know, see what I'm saying, kind of a couple
of basic white guys' names, right, kinda especially with the
what the m y ending? You know, Timmy and Johnny,
why do we go that? Yeah, what people who are
not white can't be named? Johnny, why didn't you say
what you say? El DeShawn? Yeah? Yeah, or triple e
there you go, kind of racist? Triple you know what

(36:13):
I'm saying. There's gotta be a white guy named Triple
E that's self proclaimed triple I don't know. Maybe his
name's Edward. Johnny and Johnny and Timmy. Yeah, they're not
real over they're not over the top, old school basic
white guy games. But you're right, you're right. What do
we say?

Speaker 6 (36:34):
It was?

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Luke Luke's I mean, you're all white all the time, Taylor, Yeah,
there's no doubt. Yeah, Yeah, you're you're you're Cody. If
your name is Cody, you're probably got a little baby
fat on you when you're when you're like twelve, still
you know that's the Cody. But but you're the guy
that's the oversized first baseman. Yeah, that leans out when

(36:55):
he's older. But he's hitting like bombs. Yeah, he's hitting
bombs at twelve that are were like three sixty.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
You know.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
So back to uh, Johnny and Timmy at everybody keeps scoring,
You're exactly right, they know the score. Yeah, And I
am not big on trying to hide that from them
because I've always believe I got news for you and
your eight you that they they know how to be competed.
You don't have to teach them how to be competiti
they'll go out there and be competitive, and the parents
at home, you know what they're doing on the side.
You might be keep they're keeping score like, oh you
scored three you scored four points today, right, So for me,

(37:25):
self esteem is not it's it's continue it's continued to
develop with coaches and teachers at school and in society
and your buddies self esteems brought it home.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
You got to teach kids how to fail to like
that's that's part of it as well. It's like you've
got to learn like, hey, we lost today. Why do
you lose today? This is why you lost today? Okay,
how do you not lose next time?

Speaker 1 (37:45):
That's part of a little message to some of those
in society. Don't get it. They're gonna fail more than
they succeed, especially in those sports. Go and if that's
what they're gonna do. Most of them are not going
to be playing sports on a Sunday or and if
they are, God bless them. Everybody has their central goal
sign go for it. But the fact that that you failed,
it's a lesson that it's not a lifetime sentence. Right, Well,

(38:07):
you failed one doesn't mean it and it just bothers me.
So why are you putting up banners?

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Well it's funny too, makers it better than that, Like
like you mentioned about you know, because I mean you
run into this. You coach kids, and I'm sure you
got parents. Oh how does my son become a college quarterback?
I mean more often than not, it's well do you
have it?

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Or do you not? And do you do?

Speaker 3 (38:25):
You have the physical intangibles and everything else that goes with.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Are you doing something? Are you doing stuff every day
that others aren't doing? Bingo? I mean if everybody's doing it,
then then what's going to separate? Are you? You got
to do the stuff that you don't want to do
in order to get the stuff that others don't get well,
and this was daring.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
When LSU was making their national title run in twenty nineteen,
there was a picture. It was Austin Deculus and like
a few of the other LSU offensive linemen after either
they were going through their workout or just got done,
and the point of it was, oh, you think your
son can play Division one football?

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Do they look like that?

Speaker 3 (39:00):
And you see and you've been around these guys, I
mean even me, like, I think we can agree.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
I'm a pretty big guy.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
I go into the Texans locker room and I'm like,
I'm probably about the size of the punter, that's right,
And like that just shows you what what I am
compared to these guys Darren Bennett. When I was in
San Diego Chargers, Darren Bennet, our punter from Australia.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Know you remember him, the people don't. He was about
six four, about two sixty two fifty and he could
kick at a country mile one of the great Auzie
Rules football game and you know, they're the funnest guys
in the world. They'll drink a beer, they'll have fun laughs.
He was one of my favorite humans in all the sports. Yeah,
it was, you know. And then the opposite side of
that is then you got to get into those kids

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that feel overwhelmed about their lack of size at times,
like you're talking about, Yeah, you got to let them
know that there's more too, that they can still succeed
doing it. And that's another reason why he keepsact Tom
proved here. That's exactly right, proofd to. I mean, Emitt
Smith wasn't the fastest guy. Sure, Emmitt Smith's the all
time leading rusher. Right, So point is is that you
gotta that I don't. And I'll argue this all day long.
You can tell, well, what about the eight year old?

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If they lose, well, then you better have an explanation
of what they got to do to get better. That's it.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
I mean, that's that's all part of it. And that's
the thing. And you know you talked about the off
season hype. We'll start there to kick us into the
seven o'clock. Do you want your first bit of adversity
to be like when you're an adult. No, you don't,
because you want to once you get to that. It's
just kind of like, well as part of it.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah, you know you're eighteen and nobody told you that
losing a game, you didn't get to go get a ring.
But yeah, that's the way it works. Brother, there are
your eight year old parents didn't tell you that when
you were eight, But gotta fix that. Well, it's like
remember years ago.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
And the example that comes to mind right now is
the Augie Gurrito in the clubhouse getting on his guys,
and he had one earlier on where it's like a
five minute clip that's out there, go look it up.
But he was given the team a talk after they
just got swept at University of San Diego, and his
line was, you know, look, you guys got your asses
kicked like there's no other way to put it. And

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if this were a gang fight, you guys would be dead.
And his point was of you are not as you
are so much better than those guys, but they were
better than you.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
What are you going to do about and how you're
going to protect your teammate and defend against him and
go to rally with everyone as the team. It's not golf, buddy,
I mean, and I'm talking about Ryder Cup. They got
the club in there and it's them and they're caddy.
You got eight other dudes to lean on or ten
other guys as a football player. But I'm not so
sure getting hit in the mouth at times isn't a
bad thing. It's no, there is. There's no better teacher

(41:26):
than exactly that, unless, of course, you've been programmed to
think that if you lose once your your career is done, right, yeah,
and that then that then that's got to be shaped
at home well, because that's what makes these guys who
they are. And and you know, women too. I mean,
you say, guys, I'm talking about when I throw guys,
and I'm talking about everybody, right exactly, it's okay for
an eight year old. I remember my daughter and she

(41:48):
was a hell of an athlete, but she came home
they lost one day and she was upset about it,
and I mean in tears. I'm like, okay, so talk
to me. And it was and she's tough as it gets,
but it was a tough fun So well, you get
you we're playing next week. I mean, you put your
arm around them. It's gonna happen. You know, how are
you gonna It's gonna be okay, not that big a deal.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
And that's one thing that I've learned too, is that
everybody handles everything in a different way. I Mean, you
have some guys that, like you said that after a
game it's a tough one, they lost, they go about
their business just the same way. But then what do
you have You have people out there, Oh it doesn't
mean as much to them. Yeah, it's like because they
handle they compartmentalize it differently than than anyone else. I mean,

(42:30):
like everybody wants to see if it's a tough loss,
Like I'm sure, and I'm not saying that this wasn't
the case on Sunday in the Texans locker room, but
there probably were guys that through pads, through helmets, maybe
hung their helmet up a little bit more aggressively than
they would. But you know, there's also other guys that
just said, hey, you know what, why.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Do we lose thirty seconds? Will go to let's go back.
I am playing in the City County All Star Game basketball. Yeah,
and there's probably of the twelve on each team. There's
a bunch of coaching. This is at the end of
the basketball season and maybe even the end of the
Center County game, where there's where you go play in
the basketball season when everybody in San Diego County's done.

(43:07):
It's the city schools versus the county schools under and however,
they had it boundaried, and so they take the twelve
best that they think from each and you have a leg.
You go through a couple weeks of practice and we
play each other and we're playing at a big gym.
And then was think it was at UCSD. You know,
Californa and San Diego wh Chargers used to train when
I played as well. And you know the guys that
recruited in and signed all these most of them had signed.

(43:30):
There's college recruiters there, and we're playing against them. You
don't have a good game, and it's we got some
battles going on with guys. There's probably of the twenty
four of us, twenty two of them going somewhere. Basketball
football are both to play college sports, right, and we're
playing in the first half. And I was one of
those games where I just couldn't get into the flow early. Right, Yeah,

(43:51):
got a shot blocked at the rim by Kenny Johnson,
who ended up going to see big center play started
at Michigan State transferred, and so at halftime, my mom
and dad walk down and my mom is the was
a talker. My dad didn't say a word. My mom
walked down, shot missed a couple of shots, didn't She
walks down at halftime, like going to get a drink
all the rest of them. Mom, she gives me this look.
I walk over there and she goes, not not as

(44:13):
a helicopter print, just walking by. I said, she goes,
You better pick it up if you expect your father
and I to stay and watch this second half. I
swear that, but she said it a little more forceful
than that. You better pick this up. Yeah, if your
dad and I and there's there's people here watching it.
She's your last high school basketball game, because it was
at the end of the year, our senior year. You

(44:33):
pick it up, yeah, or your dad and I'll well,
we'll see you at home, and you know, good luck,
you'll get your own ride. Yeah. I was embarrassed and
came out in the second half and played out of
your frigging you know, hit a three, Well, we didn't
have a three. Hit a long jumper, go in and boom,
full court, press, tip the ball, get it back, hitt
one of those Reggie Miller where you just started going.
It's like I didn't need the scoreboard to tell me

(44:54):
because I knew I was playing like assid My mom
made sure she reminded me without saying, you're playing like
She said, that's exactly how you're playing, So get your
ass competitive and go back out and play the second half.
And I didn't know what else was going on, but
I damn will know that I didn't want the wrath
of my mom and dad when I got home safe.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
He didn't need the Bobby Night meths. It wasn't even massage.
She didn't need messages, since she didn't she was a message.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
She felt like I was too lack a daisical in
the first half, like it had nothing to do with
the scoreboard, have anything to do with you want.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Sometimes you need people who know what your standard.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
She took a chunk of my ass and it's still
with her in her death, because I still there's a
part of my right ass cheek that I ain't got anymore.
And my pops just looked at her like, yeah, she's
not wrong. I don't have to say anything. Boy, you
better get yourself moving. There you go, And it was
that's a city county all star getting no well sometimes
said sometimes it's not said. Yeah, it was said, brother,
if you were my friend's dad, you'd have laughed your ass,

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And so mom got your ass, got his ass tripoly
and she did get me.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Brother.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Hey, one way or another, we're told that's that's the
way life goes.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
It's all the matter, all right, off season high affecting
the way that Texan's playing to this point. It's also
too feeling as good about this team six and four
as we did last year, also to the elite category.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Can we throw out the E word? Maybe we can.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
I don't know, but we'll do that all here in
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Speaker 1 (47:01):
Miko, Ryan, c J.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Stroud talking yesterday crowded injury report.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
We had into that. As the show goes along.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Thursday Night football last night, twenty six eighteen, Eagles over
the Commanders and the Rockets back on the floor tonight
against the Clippers. NBA Cup play is tonight, so you'll
have the cool little floor there that I know the
Rockets shared yesterday. So if you're there and you notice
that the floor looks a little bit different. Well, that's

(47:27):
why because they're in cup play now for the seasonal
little n season tournament for the NBA. But anyway, getting
into some Texans conversation here, you want to jump aboard,
you can do so someone three two, one, two, five,
seven ninety. And now, finally, Sean, we get to it
the three questions that you threw out there the offseason hype,

(47:48):
feeling just as good about this team as you did
last year at this time when they were six and four,
and with the off season hype, it was more of
you know, is a defensive effecting?

Speaker 1 (47:58):
And the last one would be and you could say
that for are they an elite? Are they? Do we
still consider them? Baltimore, Kansas City, Detroit, you know whatever,
you consider your five team, Philadelphia? If you want to
throw them in from last night, are they are they? Well?
I don't want to hear if that's why I said Detroit,
who I think is the best team in the NFC?

(48:19):
Are they in that category? Not? Well, Sean win They're healthy.
I can say that about everybody talking about as we
sit today, and you're putting them against the five or
six elite teams. We know about their talent. Hell, we
love them, and they've played six and four to not
play their best football. They're just playing in a lot
of close games and they're going to have to turn
around a little or it will it could unravel like

(48:39):
it would on any team that gets caught up in that.
I just are they in that category? So, first and foremost, one,
do you believe that off season expectations affect good or bad?
And have affected detections this year?

Speaker 3 (48:56):
So part of me, the urge is that I want
to be able to jump on question number three first,
But I'll fight. I'll fight that urge. I'll fight that urge.
It's it's the first one they say.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
That, say the last one, then tell me why on
the other two. That's right. So the elite, No, they're not.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
They're not even elite in their own conference right now,
because let's just go ahead and take it just venue
doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Are you beating the Chiefs? I don't believe they are, Okay,
So we're just talking them all neutral sites, that's it.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
So, I mean, yeah, if you want to go off
that would they beat the Ravens?

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Like right now?

Speaker 3 (49:29):
It's the old if the playoffs started today, you'd have
Baltimore come into town. I have a hard time believing
you're beating Baltimore today, would agree. So I mean, there's
that you play Buffalo the second time around.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
They're healthier. Josh Allen isn't going nine for thirty.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
And you still play, but he won't go nine for three.
So you would have a tough one against Buffalo. Pittsburgh.
I mean that's another one as well, with TJ. Watt
and that defense, Cam Hayward coming at you, and.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
And Russ is playing for comeback player. I mean he's
playing football, you know, Pigs. He's playing well because he.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Wasn't hurt Harris Like that's that's a good football team.
So I mean a phenomenal head coach if your elite
I'm at least maybe I'm not answering all of those
teams that you can beat, but at least one of them.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
So you don't even have them top ten power rankings
right now. I probably not. Not the way that they
played so far this point. That's fair. And look what
about Cincinnati on a neutral site. I'm just saying, with
the way they've been in all these close games, Burl's
playing like an MVP.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Is with their with their defense, and I think it
kind of you know, with that matchup, it kind of
comes down to, like you talk about, if you're facing
a team that has a superstar on the basketball floor,
what's always said in the NBA, Well, you know when
you played Kobe, Well, Kobe's gonna get his, but make
sure that pal only gets so much. Make sure that
all these other guys there you go, you can beat

(50:46):
him if Burrow gets his and everybody else does. And
that's what it is with Burrow and Chase is they're
gonna get theirs. It's going to happen, and they're going
to be able to put up their yards, their points,
all of those different types of things. That's going to happen.
It's everybody else. And that's why I think.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I like this defense better than Cincinnati's, but defense I
like this team better than I do. So, yeah, you
don't think they wish they had mixing still there, one
hundred percent they do, because that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
I mean, it's it's pretty much I mean, and that's
what you saw out of Cincinnati. That's why they are
what they are right now, because you know, Chase with
his contract situation, all that kind of stuff, getting going
a little bit later than usual, so you know, now
you're kind of starting to see. I mean, remember I
brought up the Peyton Manning example when Brandon and I
UK had that touchdown drop and he was like, that's
because he wasn't in training camp right there.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
That's why you need training camp.

Speaker 6 (51:33):
No.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
And that's the way that I think any competitor thinks
is they know exactly, all right, that's why that's happening.
Look here fair or not here locally Laramy Tunsel kind
of getting started a little bit later in training camp,
all those different things, the veteran rest days. And there's
a reason why whenever number seventy eight is announced for
a penalty, that's why you have the loud chorus of

(51:55):
booze is because people are like be on the field,
man like, like be out here part of it and be.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Ready to go.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
You don't have the illegal formations and the false starts
and all these other things that you've had.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
What it is by being late to camp or not
practicing in the officer, not showing up to minicamp. But
the first thing we think of is if you're not
going good, that's the reason, and it may be other reasons,
but it's an open door for you to go slam
people a reason. It's basically what it is, because I mean,
it opens up Pandora's box for you, you know, who is
never the dislike player, the guy who works hard and

(52:27):
shows up on time. There you go.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Because if they make a mistake, it's say, oh, you know,
they just made a mistake. But it's the ah, you know,
and my hips kind of bothering me a little bit today.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Well can you go? I don't know. Well, I mean
we're looking for a reason to ask them why. There
you go. So that's when it comes down not elite
all right, then does the hype of anything to do
with success and failure on this team.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
So I think they tried to guard against it. I
really do because remember at the combine Nick Cassio talking about, yeah,
we did some great things last year, but the schedules
better and we won a lot of close games like that.
That's the funny thing is we're judging the Texans off
of expectations and I don't think necessarily were really even

(53:11):
there in the first place, but because of what they
did last year and having how far they exceeded the expectations.
Now that bar has been set because last year, when
they were doing this, if we're doing this show a
year ago, and that answers question number two for you,
we're doing the show a year ago, we're doing backflips
right now.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
All right, Hey, we lost it. We lost a tough
game BT to Detroit. Six and four. Feels different two
years apart, when you're coming from a three win team
to a ten win team into the next year, right,
it absolutely does. Because it's the old saying.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Just doing your job is not just doing your job,
because it's you're doing what's required of you.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
That's fine, that's a C student.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
C students don't get recognized because you're just doing exactly
what's being asked of you and nothing more. As opposed
to if they were seven and three, if they were
eight and two, trust me, if they're seven and three,
if they win Green Bay, if they win up at
the Meadowlands, or if they had one Sunday night, you
still have people who are calling in at someone three,
two and two, five, seven ninety. Yeah but I don't

(54:07):
like the offensive line. Yeah, but I don't like this.
I don't like a certain situation sure it is. I mean,
that's that's all good being the.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Size in Kansas City because Kansas City's offense isn't explosive
right now. They were killing Kansas City last year.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Of saying that this team is not exactly the offense
isn't as explosive. The defense is carrying this team. They
can't go win at Buffalo until they did. Uh, they
can't go to Baltimore and win then they did. All right, well,
now they can't beat San Francisco. Well, I think you
know how they say was going to go after I
just gave you the other two. Yeah, I mean. And
that's the part of it as well, is that we

(54:41):
had Chandler Rome on with us yesterday and he brought it.
He brought up a great example that this Texans team
kind of reminds some of the twenty sixteen Astros. Now
this team's going to make the playoffs, but his point
was of you had those expectations of probably getting there
a year or two earlier than you thought you were
going to be there.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
And they made such quantum leaps last year.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
And it's also too, I mean, coming off that twenty
fifteen season, Carlos Korea fields and routine ground ball. You're
going to the LCS and you kind of start all
this two years Soonter, Absolutely right. So that's what the
Texans are dealing with right now at this point, and
that's why I think a lot of people are frustrated
with them, because, I mean, it's kind of getting to
the point, why aren't you making adjustments? Why isn't the

(55:23):
offensive line getting any better? Why isn't the rest of
this team getting any better? Lakes and four is good
for Carolina this year.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
If they were six and four, it's not good enough
for the Astro, I mean for the Texans because of
the way the expectations.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
They would be great for the Cowboys right now, the
team that you're playing on Monday night, no doubt who
honestly I mean. And we're going to have my good
buddy Matt McLaren on in about an hour and fifteen minutes.
He's on the ticket up there in Dallas. And I mean,
one of the things that I do want to know
is number one, how's the fan base looking at that
team right now? But the other one as well is

(55:55):
you guys have to feel like this is a get
right game for the Texans.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
I actually think They're a bottom third team right now.
I've said it numerous times.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
That I don't think they win more than a couple
more games this season.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
So that's what a good feeling on a season like
this for the Dallas Cowboys to play their best game
and beat the Texans and ruins with the Texans have
going on or.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
I mean, and that's the other thing is too, is
it can be a get right for them because then
they finally go back in the locker room and they say, hey,
look we don't have Dak.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
We get it.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
That's fine, but also to it at the same time,
we're not as bad as people are portraying us to be.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
You guys are still showing up playing and I don't
want to say playing hard, playing smarter. I'm not convinced that.
I mean, it should be a blowout, but I'm not
convinced it's going to be because desperate teams when you've
embarrassed the week before, and they've been embarrassed a lot
at home this year, that every single week they played
it home, they've been embarrassed. They're give it up like
thirty every week, where sometimes they've usually been really good

(56:45):
at home. Well, last year they were unefeated.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
But the point is is you know this as well
as anyone. Football is the ultimate hope sport that if
you don't have it, boy, I mean you want to
talk about, Hey.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
There's nothing more miserable than at this stage of the season. No,
you're not going to playoffs. There's no sport that's worse
at getting your ass kick than football. But it can
also be dangerous too because then you're like, what the
hell do I get to lose? But another game? Just
let a rip. That's what makes us dangerous. And in
teams that are embarrassed, like the Jets were against the
Patriots the week before they played the Texans, and then
last week he gets Arizona, I'll discount the pride that

(57:20):
goes on with not We'll go find out how much
pride the Cowboys have on Sun or Monday night. There's
a difference going in the locker rooms when a team
is playing well, it's fun. Everybody wants to be in
there when they're losing. Like there are times where one
of the years in my experience, was after the Falcons
had just gone and lost to the forty nine ers

(57:41):
in the NFC, and then the following year they went
four and twelve. Boy, you want to talk about the
difference in locker rooms where you'd go in there, everybody
you'd be in there, you'd have you know, Sean Weatherspoon
doing his d Block show, all those different types of things.
Everybody was having fun.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
You'd go in there on a Wednesday, you know, you'd
be able to talk to the quarterback and then maybe
find a few other people in there. But aside from that,
nobody wanted to talk. Nobody wanted to do anything different.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
World, brother, when you lose with everybody in the building
so miserable.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
So well, we can get into all of that too.
I see Kenneth right there. You want to weigh in,
you can do so as well, Brandon, I see you
right there. If you want to join them on the
phone lines, due so someone three two one two five
seven ninety also to sometime during this hour. I want
to get to you know, we've known how notable an
absence Nico Collins is, but I don't know if we

(58:30):
necessarily realized how much of an absence he was. And
we heard it yesterday. You'll hear that as well. Here
in the seven o'clock hour, Dan Matthews in for Brian Lima.
He's Sean Salisbury, Triple E, Emmanuel Homeowner, Triple E, Emmanuel Elmore.
See easy enough, you get it out. Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Let's go. This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
All right, Sean? What are you hearing on there? Now?

Speaker 2 (59:00):
E's takeouts? Salsbury's takeouts on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
And you can be a part of it if you want.
Someone three two one two five seven ninety. Once again
that SEB one three two one two five seven ninety.
See some of you on the phone lines. You want
to hop board, do so again at someone three two
on two at five at seven ninety. Off season hype
affecting the Texans so far to this point. Feeling just

(59:27):
good about this team at six and four as you
did last year. Also to the E category elite? Are
they in that category? Kenneth and Orange wants to weigh
in here, Kenneth, what's going on?

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Hell?

Speaker 8 (59:42):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (59:43):
But I wanted to get into uh oh yeah, football man.
I enjoyed the show yesterday. I was trying to get
in on that single long man. I had trip lead
of the day to uh pulluck that Meryl Haggard rainbow sto, man,
I should I hear you guys see that then? But

(01:00:04):
anyway about these catches, man, and stop me when I'm
you think, I look at a defense that can deal
with anybody that got out there. You don't know where
they coming from. You can't throw into him. You can't
have a number one leader insights because you know it's
coming from everywhere. And swarm is the is a damn

(01:00:27):
good uh definition, And that's what they do because you
know they all over the place good defense, and uh,
I think they can I really be they can stick
with anybody in the league.

Speaker 6 (01:00:41):
Are okay?

Speaker 9 (01:00:42):
Now we turn around and we talk about now the
the offense and this offense and can they be and
everything like that. The litmus test to me looked like
was Detroit. They went out there and made Detroit look
like you know, any other impatible. They made them look beatable.

(01:01:03):
But then they they weakness with their food.

Speaker 6 (01:01:08):
They can't finish.

Speaker 9 (01:01:10):
And so right now everybody's looking at the same train.

Speaker 6 (01:01:14):
Wreck going into that second half.

Speaker 9 (01:01:17):
But you know, we're just not there straight up, and
you're saying it, man, they get out coach in the
second half. Everybody know what they're gonna do. Damn there,
you know, no chiller instinct in the second half. You know,
you see it from yesterday about bad bad quarterbacks make

(01:01:42):
a coach look bad. But don't you think a bad
coordinator and a bad coach would make a good quarterback
look bad? And so I you know, and.

Speaker 6 (01:01:55):
I'm in with this right here. And I watched them
quarterbacks down.

Speaker 9 (01:02:00):
Through the years and how they evolved into the game
and stuff. And I'm talking about some of the greats.
And I always told by d ma Reno and most
of all were l ways and they had you know,
they don't have they had a Hall of Fame coaching.
But they would turn around to these guys and say, man,

(01:02:21):
what are you thinking, dude right now? We have quarter
back this night.

Speaker 6 (01:02:26):
He's not in a position to do that.

Speaker 9 (01:02:28):
He don't have a mentor on the sideline. And I
asked you, San, don't you think it's kind of a
vacuum he is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
He don't even have nobody.

Speaker 9 (01:02:38):
He's come back to the sideline and to talk to
you don't have no mentor.

Speaker 6 (01:02:44):
You know, this is the time for Gruden.

Speaker 9 (01:02:46):
You know, if Ruden could work with he was good
working with quarterbacks.

Speaker 6 (01:02:51):
He don't have that Bruden.

Speaker 8 (01:02:53):
He don't have that guy that know what.

Speaker 9 (01:02:55):
It feels like to be looking up at the ceiling man,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
But I'm all right appreciate the call. Yeah, No, Kenneth,
You're right. I will ask you guys this too. Did
you expect the defense or offense to be better this year?
I mean, which one would you have said is going
to take the biggest jump? The offense agreed, if I
expected to see I think the defense in the next three.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Year is gonna be a top five defense. I think
questions about the defensive front. I was worried about losing Ranker, right, yeah,
losing elite Collins. But obviously, now that you finally have
de Nico autry in, I mean, and you see, I
mean I throughout the tweet when he got to Jared
Goff the other night that that's why you brought him
in here. That's that's why you have him here. That

(01:03:38):
group has performed a lot better than I think any
of us thought. Tim Settle has really jumped in, uh
the mentor part of it, though, Kenneth, I've got to
disagree with because I mean, you heard C. J. Stroud
talk about it all last year. How much case Keenum
means him, and Keenum is still in the building. Keenum's around,
He's done for the season, but he's still somebody that
he can rely upon.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
I think Davis Mills too.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
Look, MS Mills is a guy that basically was told
in the NFL, hey, you're our guy. Well, I don't
know if I'm ready to be our guy. Well tough,
you're our guy. You're out there. And he went out
there and he took the lumps and we saw the
results for it. In terms of finishing. I don't think
they can yet. But the good news is, and I've
talked about this numerous time, Sean, and maybe we can

(01:04:19):
carry this over. They don't have to yet. Like, remember
I talked about the Chiefs earlier. When did the Chiefs
start playing their best football late in the season last year? Like,
this is a team that I think the message could
be to them, you're six and four, there's nothing you
can do about that, whatever, but you can become seven
and four.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Then you go play I think two seasons now now
played as a seven game season.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
So then after this it's I can't remember if it's
Tennessee or Jacksonville next, but you get those two teams
coming up back to back. After that, all of a sudden,
you could be looking at the end of these three
games and say you're nine to four.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Then everybody's feeling good about this team again. And the
truth is they should be favored in all of them.
They should win all those games. And that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
And that's why Monday Night is massively important for this
team in terms of you go in there, you face
a bad team, you play them like they're a bad team,
and you come out of their seventeen to twenty point win.
That's that's what it should look. And you beat them
down like they're a bad team. That's what you do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
You treat the Cowboys like they're a playoff team going
in respect wise, and then you put your foot in
their throat coming out of it. So you're seven and
four and the other two you're gonna win. So you
get to nine and four. Boy, how sweet does that sound?

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
You want to be that team, and not too many
teams in the NFL can be that. Detroit is right now,
Kansas City is right now, Baltimore is where it's.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Oh, Pittsburgh's becoming it as well.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
You felt like you played that team right, like during
the heydays of you know, Nick Saban at Alabama, you
would see teams who would lose another game and another
game after they played against them because they were physically
beaten up. That's what you want to get to, and
that's what that's what the Texans are trying to get to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Yeah, don't, don't. You don't need to play finess football
with this team coming up this week. Football never win well,
it'll win games, it never wins championships.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
Bingo, And I trust me, I saw it. I saw it,
hands on, full focus there being you know, boots on
the beach right there, of seeing exactly what you just
talked about right there, of that type of football. Eventually,
it is going to get you beat when you face
a team that wants to be more physical with you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
All right, we can continue.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
This conversation on the other side, see Dominic Brandon. We'll
get to you guys here a little bit later on
as well. Still got the Nico Collins stuff that I
want to get to from CJ. Shroud and also Demiko Ryans.
And you heard Kenneth mentioned John Gruden. Well last night,
I know that some of you might have been paying
attention to what coach Gruden was doing with the guys

(01:06:43):
at barstool. But you know, there's a couple of interesting
things that came out of that that I want to
get into as the show goes along. It was it
was a fun watch if you were watching it last night.
So we'll do all of that here on the Sean
Salisbury Show. Dan Matthews in for Brian Lolima, Triple Emmanuel Elmore.
He's Shawn Salisbury and Sports Talk seven ninety.

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Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
The Sean Salisbury Show continues fights on Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
Here on The Sean Salisbury Show. Dan Matthews in for
Brian Alima Triple Emmanuel Olmore. E'shawn Salisbury. Of course, the
namesake of the show. Texans gonna get back on the
practice field a little bit later on this afternoon. It's
a Thursday in terms of the football week, because of

(01:09:33):
course Monday night, so tomorrow will be there Friday. Then
they'll take the quick little flight up to DFW.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
The funny thing is too is like last night the
Commander is playing against the Eagles. That if I'm not mistaken,
I think the Commanders took an Amtrak to get there
to Philly. Like that's what I understand. Those teams up
there in the northeast.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Do is that?

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Why get on that plane, drive to the airport and
get on the plane and go up and now it's
get on the train.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
I said, yeah, say, are right there. Go go to
the hotel, go to the stadium.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Go right, you can study, you can grab some deep
you can relax a little bit. Matter of fact, that
it's far more peaceful than having to deal with all that.
I know, you get on a private flight. But now
by all the loading up and doing all that and
packing luggage, sticking on the train and go I.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Was gonna say, like for the Texans, I almost would
probably guess that the loading and unloading of them flying
up to probably DFW is to get there, get off
the plane, get on the buses, do all of that
that it's probably going to be double, maybe even triple
the amount of time as opposed to the.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Going to fly. You watch though, because it's four hours,
because it's an hour and thirty minutes. Yeah, no, they're
they're not. They're not yellow dogging it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
And you know, of taking the bus up there, because
it's also too you know, I've had somebody ask a
coach before, well, why wouldn't you all bus. We don't
want them sit in these seats. You know, their their
knees crunched up, everything like that for three hours, you know,
getting up there as opposed to it could be a
quick flight, get off the get off a plane and
get around, uh you know, to getting to do what

(01:11:03):
you want to do off a thirty forty five minute
flight as opposed to like you said, four hours.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
And guess what. And maybe in football, but there's no
TSA or any of that. When you hop on Amtrak.
You do it at the facility. Yeah, to take it.
I learned the one the one time. Yeah, they put
it on a bus. Take it over there. Yeah. And
it's actually kind of a train rides, I mean right, yeah,
I freaking love hi.

Speaker 6 (01:11:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
I Actually it's funny enough that that same trip that
that Cooperstown trip, my buddy was coaching in the n
y CBL and his team was in Cooperstown, so I
had gone up. It was my uncle's sixtieth birthday, went
to Yankee Stadium and the only time I've ever been
in the Yankee Stadium in a suite.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
For his birthday. Fun time, awesome time, blast memories forever,
bro absolutely and four hours I get while they got
on a play.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
And it was an awesome train ride too, because it
was right alongside the Hudson. Oh yeah, I got to
go past west Point.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Oh yeah, that's a that's a that's there into West Points.
Pretty cool and.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
It was pretty like I saw it and like I'd
always heard of West Point, but then I saw like
what it looked like, and I was like, man, it's
pretty aweset.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Used to take the train all the time when I
was living in Connecticut for those three years, you know,
doing work for twelve but I was commuting well soon.
And then finally when I did Dance Show and Dan
Patrick and I were partners, Yeah yeah, you have to
live there there. Oh yeah, yeah, there's no Phil the
show Killer and me and Dibbs and Dan we had
a blast, man, But I'd take the train. I went
and took the train and go see Shilling and Randy

(01:12:27):
Johnson down till he took my kids. And then you'll
take the train to New I was on the train
all the time. It's just so much easier for that
New York. Boston filled that whole It's a different life
up there, it is, And you know what the truth
is taking the train into. Taking the train in it
was so much easier or then driving yourself, and it
just was so much smoother and relaxed. You see.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
The funny thing is, And we'll get to Jamiko Ryans
and also c J. Stroud here in just a second.
But I remember growing up, I said, you know, oh man,
how much easier that's got to be of you know,
riding the subway, doing all those different things. Then when
I was up in New York once for a conference,
I did it one day and I was like, you
know what, my car's not so bad now that I

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think about it, And that's it. No, But because I mean,
that's what I've grown up in, and that's why I
like up there. If that's your way of life, Like,
that's what you know, because parking and everything is so
hard to find. You have people on top of people,
all those different types of things. That is pretty much
the only way you can get around up there in
those cities is either the subway or cabs or anything
like that, as opposed to down here, where it's we

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can park pretty much anywhere, we can go pretty much anywhere,
and we don't have those issues.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
Yeah, we need the train from here to Dallas. We
need that now.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
That's why I said, like back in the mid eighties
New Orleans, Yeah, that the city should have honestly said, hey,
we're gonna have you know, obviously we can't have subway here,
but I mean, you know, being able to have like
something like that. And I think that you train people
into no pun intended, but you train their mindset into hey,
you know, this is easier, this is this is a

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lot you know, less stressful as opposed to being jammed
up on six ten or or ten.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
I travel a lot more than four hours. If there
was a bullet train all the way around. Oh yeah,
if you had that option. I know they've been talking
about that for years. But uh, if you had that option, Yeah,
to get to Dallas at a buck twenty, yeah, I'm there.
Oh yeah yeah, if you you got you got a
Woodland stop right there. There's no absolutely maybe look it
up for for you know Texas. So you the you

(01:14:32):
I've always wanted to go, got to go there in
the fair that you have to go the corny dogs. Yeah,
that's a fun state fairse I'm an oreos guy too.
Oos you get it all there, Let's google you'll want
to go more than once. That's it. That's it all right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
The notable absence that has been at Nico Collins. Uh well, actually,
let's let's do that in the final segment here. So
we'll do that on the other side, because I think
it's pretty evident how much of his absence has been
noticed while he's been out, but also to what it
covers up for all of those different types of things.
We'll hear from Damiko Ryans, c J. Stroud on the

(01:15:07):
other side. You want to join up on the phone lines,
Dominic Brandon see all there seven one three, two one
two five, seven ninety. We'll do all that here as
we close out the seven o'clock hour here on the
Seawan Salisbury Show.

Speaker 10 (01:15:20):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
Sports Sock seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Dan Matthews here for Brian Lima Triple E Emmanuel Elmore,
Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
Here's the namesake.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
As we will get into, like I said, some of
the Gruden stuff last night with the guys on barstool,
as that up because it just came across my Twitter
feed right now. And one of the things he said
last night talking about the analytics guys in his ear
whenever they would have a fourth and two, fourth and one,

(01:16:12):
fourth and three, they're down by six or something like
that and telling them, hey, coach, the analytics tell you
to go for it right here, and then they get stuffed.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
I don't want to give away too much.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
It was good stuff, so we'll get into that in
the eight o'clock hour, but I do want to start
off though, talking about Nico Collins. So you've gone five
games without him on the field, you're two and three
during that five game stretch, you're six and four overall.
So do the math on what his worth has been
to this team. Tamiko Ryans talking about getting Nico Collins back.

(01:16:43):
He was on the practice field yesterday looking like a
full go for Monday night against Dallas and saying, yeah,
there's no doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
It's huge to get him back.

Speaker 11 (01:16:53):
Getting Nico back is always very great for all of us.
Nico's man are one of our best players when he
was healthy, so it's great to have him back.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
Great to have his presence.

Speaker 11 (01:17:02):
And the energy that he brings, and also the playmaking
ability that he brings. So happy to have him back
and really proud of him for the work he's put
in to get himself back.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
And it doesn't stop there. His quarterback c J. Stroud
also happy to have number twelve back.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
That's huge.

Speaker 12 (01:17:19):
You know, I'm very excited to have my guy back,
and it's happy for him, you know, to you know,
be back with the team and be a part of
the locker room again.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
You know it's there.

Speaker 12 (01:17:28):
They're you know, solitude when you know they're injured. People
are injured, you know they're on their own. So I'm
glad that he's just able to be around the guys
again and you know, be able to do the sport
that he loves to play.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
So Sean, I'm listening to both of those cuts right there,
and immediately what I'm thinking is, Wow, they have really
missed that guy. And they've really missed that guy from
the standpoint of haven't seen his many downfield throws, haven't
seen the same explosiveness. This offense hasn't been what it's
supposed to be without him on the field. But it
also gets even further. Want to blame the offensive line,

(01:18:01):
People want to blame c J. Stroud, help, people want
to blame Bobby Slowick, Nico Collins has masked a lot
of those things, like those same problems that we've been
talking about, they were still there third down conversion against
the Colts in order to be able to preserve that win,
be able to win that game. You don't get it
without Nico Collins, the long touchdown pass on the play
that got him hurt against Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
And which do an ass whooping. That was I mean
when I'm talking about their defense just just took over.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
Right, and that I mean, and that's what again helped
you preserve the win.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
But we'd seen CJ. Stroud on the run. We'd seen CJ.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
Stroud having the move out of the pocket, pocket moving
with them, whatever it is. But how many times do
we see last year and even this year through those
games of c J. Stroud. Well, I'm up against it
right here, I'm feeling it. I'll throw it up. Hey,
there's number twelve right there. He's gonna he's gonna make
everything better. And he did, there's no question about it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
And you know what happens, the chemu of effect of
not having your top two receivers and your receiver in
Nico Collins, and then all of a sudden he's out
and then the pass rush has been faltering, and it
got better last week. Even though it was four sacks.
There was a little more cleaner pocket for him to
deliver the ball, and we saw it in the first half.
We just did is the cumulative effect when you're getting

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hit all the time. Regardless of what anybody says, c J.
Stroud's impatience in the pocket has been palpable this year.
I'm talking about I think he's special, and I think
that when PSAs had a big step back now he's
just not playing as smoothly or as they're not as
consistent overall as they were last year. He's still making
phenomenal throws. He's done it without two of his best

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receivers now going on five weeks, let alone in for
one of them is going to be out the whole year.
So it has had the effect of because he's missed,
the cumulati effect has led to him missing a few throws.
They were from a clean pocket with no rush, and
you've seen at times when he could have sidestepped to
taken off that he's bailed a little early. But last
week he started to get back into who we know

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who he is, and that is a great dominant thrower
of the football and is and as good a mid
level thrower as there is, meaning the mid that twelve
to twenty throw as we have in the league. And
he is a special talent. But it has had a problem,
and haven't it's been a problem. And without Collins, what
it is is it's even if he doesn't get eight
balls for one hundred and forty yards. The effect of

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to a defense knowing this week that the Cowboys have
to defend now another body, but also when the coverage
is going to be rolled or if you were going
to double or roll the coverage to somebody, it's going
to be to Collins, which should be the second third
guy said, the sport should have far better time. So
it's not just what he does production wise, it's what
his presence. The other p word presence and not potential,

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but presence does to free it up for others. So
you add Nico Collins, and you add Joe Mixon. See
that's why this passing game, to me, I thought, I
still think there's three more levels of elevation to it,
from the play calling to the execution of it is
because you've got to back in the back that commands

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not and demands from just his presence alone as well.
You have to respect it or he'll rush for a
buck fifty and then you're going to lose regardless. So
you have to even as good as Stroud is, as
good as Nico Collins, as if you're the Dallas Cowboys,
your first priority is a defense this week, come hell
or high water, is we got to stop the dude
in the backfield. That's number one. Now what they do

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with that and how that you know, it's a tough
it's a tough poison and you die a slow death
or a fast death. Because Collins and Stroud are pretty
frigging good. So but the presence that they did not
have last year, which leads me to believe that they
were more free flowing with their calls, knowing they couldn't
run it as well last year, so they put themselves
in position with creativity to make sure the passing game

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carried them. Well, now you got the running him, don't
back off that creativity. Alls you've done is add to it.
But you get the presence of Demico, I mean of
Nico Collins back which and I'm glad they know early
in the week. Why because the Dallas Cowboys now have
to prepare for that, which you know where their sites
are going to be receiver wise, So guess what that
means for Tank Dell and Mechi in the group. Another

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opportunity in the tight end in Dalton Schultz to have
in manned single coverage and a little more latitude with
space to work in because Nico Collins is going to
command your attention whether he dominates the game from the
wide receiver position or not.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Well, I mean, bingo, I mean, you just talked about
it right there. Of you've got to believe that Mike
Zimmer is saying, hey, number twelve, that's got to be
the guy number twenty eight, that's got to be the
other guy that And.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
It's going to start with twenty eight, I assure you,
because they have to stop the run. If you're playing
soft coverage, they'll bury you at the line.

Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
And that's and we've seen the Cowboys get buried numerous
times this year because of that, and that's what's huge.
But you know it comes to mind for me and
especially too it fits because of who you're playing this week.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
I mean, how much better was Alvin Harper when he
had number eighty eight?

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
On the other side of him, as opposed to when
Alvin Harper said, oh, Tampa wants to give me a
ton of money. Yeah, I'm good. I don't need that guy. Now,
you found out pretty quickly, Alvin Harper needs number eighty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
As a number two. You became a number one in
other people's eyes because Michael Irvin drew most of the attention.
And hell, whether it's you know, making that big catch
and run in the Super Bowl, you know, all those
things that go on, that North Turner calling a bank
post and Troy hitting Harper to the left and he
catch and ran and took it to you know, took
it down the field. They having a guy like Michael

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Irv And why was John Taylor so successful? Aside from
the fact that he was talented player. Jerry Rice wasn't half bad,
you know. I mean Novid Shack. I think about the
Weapons Buffalo with Jim Kelly and Andre Reid and that
group threw out there. I think, I mean, it goes
that guy who you know draws the double. You can't
double them all, brother, If you got more than two
of them, the third guy should have tremendous amount of success,

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and that should be the case for this team this week.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
That's the thing too, is I mean, you hear about
it all the time in basketball space the floor space
the floor you know they can only they can only
guard so much for you offensively, if you can take
away half the field and you can maybe even you know,
lengthen the field if you will, you know, make it
evil ban Why yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Where?

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
I mean you know, now it's one of those where
it's all right, hey, where is he? Because I mean
you're thinking about it. There's a safety that's kicked over there.
All right, Well, the number three is open Mechi's open.
To your point, Xavier Hutchinson can be able to you know,
jump in on the you have to if.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
That guy expect that you're gonna have a big day
even though you're not the number matter of fact, you
should be. If you're tanked out, you're saying, thank good
he's back because now I'm still gonna hit because when
he left, who became the number one target? It's tanked
ol right, and with both two guys going, especially when
Digs went down, you can still get your the quarterback
going through the progressions, you can still get all your

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you know, the balls thrown at you and targets. But
you're still gonna have spacing because all's Nico Collins did
was expand the field for you and spacing in basketballs
that's not the only spacing. As you well know, football,
we as offenses want to form spacing to allow you
to work in because that bandwidth makes it different when
you're playing it. When you're a half field team or
a quarterback to only read one side, I can take

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I can take away your game.

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
As a defensive coordinator. It gives you your reads. You're
able to be more confident going through it. But also
too as well. I mean, he knows that eventually number
twelve will be there. He can find him and that's
some point again that's all trust. But I can get
him the ball and he's going to make me a play.
And that's the thing is everybody all throughout this entire
time has been saying, oh, the offensive line, Bobby Slowick,

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all these different things. You watch this week, you're going
to see a much more confident quarterback CJ Stroud. You're
going to see the CJ that we got to know
in love last year and for much of this season.
He's going to be on full display. On Monday night
because of Nico Collins being out.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
There going forward? Are you really worried that when all
if everybody was healthy and they're playing their best? Are
is CJ. Stroud your biggest concern? Not even close? Thank
you and good night. So there's that and this the
ability for this team to elevate and get to another
level and have Nico Collins there. The biggest word in

(01:26:00):
to me in football from a quarterback stamp I was
even limited to that is trust. Trust from Slowank to
the quarterback that he's going to keep him in the
right place.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
And it's going to be even more confidence for Bobby
Slowick as well, like watch he's going to get back
to being the guy that we last year were saying,
oh man, we can't lose that guy. Now everybody's saying,
oh man, I hope we lose that guy because I
hope he's gone, because he's fired.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
Take everybody's number one receiver off the field. Take Chase
away from from Burrow, Take you know, Mark Andrews away
from from Lamar and now tell me or take Derrick
Henry away and now tell me what the effect is
on that football team. It's an effect. Well, there's a reason.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
There's a reason why those guys are game changers, and
when you don't have him, you notice it changes the
game for you as well. All Right, two hours in
the books, two more to go. My good buddy Matt
McClaren gonna be joining us here in the bottom of
the next hour as well. Coach John Gruden. He's got
a new job and he was having some fun last night.
We're gonna let here a little bit of it coming

(01:27:01):
up next. Right here, it's the Shawn Salisbury Show. Dan
Matthews in for Brian Alema, tripole E, Emmanuel Elmore. Right here,
Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven.

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Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
You don't like that part in the beginning of Old
School right there standing behind Frank there Frank the Tank.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
Oh yeah, I love that part. Great great movie. Hey, guys,
So I just really want to thank you for being here.
Don't even get me started, Frank, what a great movie?

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
Always judging look at the baby, Look at the Baby
that I love that movie.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
I like that. It's it's one of those too, you.

Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
Know how like they talk about, you know, guys, how
we are and you get it all the time, I'm
sure of you know how many times you have to
watch this movie?

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
I'm like, I will watch it every single time. Yes,
immature and you know you always get that. Haven't you
seen this before? Well yeah, but it doesn't stop me
from watching it again.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
It's gonna say, old school Caddy Shack, It's there, it
doesn't matter how many times.

Speaker 4 (01:28:41):
Laugh.

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
And it's also too, It's like, you know what I
always love is, uh, you know, funny parts of movies
that like maybe weren't like the famous funny parts like
for example, in Caddy Shack, whenever schmails and al Chervik
Rodney Dangerfield's character get into the dust up there and
Rodney kind of like you know, backs away from it

(01:29:02):
a little bit, shakes himself, you know, shoots, shoots his
sleeves on his suit and goes treat me like them,
thinks of his wife exactly Like I love that, just.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
Little sneaky stuff that you got to watch twenty five
times to get them all so good, great stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
Yeah, So Lilima doing the wedding thing this weekend. He's
having a lot of fun. We've been getting into Texans
conversation as well. The Rockets playing NBA Cup Action tonight
against the Clippers.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
So they've been playing good basketball. They're fun to watch
right now. They have young, talented and explosive and dynamic,
and they are Once they take that precise making more precise,
the dynamic will even shine through more and they continue
to buy in on the defensive. And this is gonna
be a fun I know we got Texans and Astros here,
but I'm gonna tell you this team is gonna be

(01:29:56):
I think they have a chance to compete for a
playoffs this year.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
I don't think there's you doubt about it. I mean
length of the season. Yes, they that's one thing, you know.
I was talking with Matt Thomas about it a little
bit the other day that they're gonna have They're gonna
need to add a shooter. I think they want Reed
Sheppard to be there.

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
Yeah, and he's got that ability to yes, and he
was a high percentage I mean, he can shoot it now,
and he's athletic as all hell. He can attack the rim,
he can spot up and shoot it. But you know
they're they're good teams. Like we saw before the trade
deadline and football are always trying to get better. The
top five teams added somebody. And and then I'm sure
that Udoka who is preaching the defensive end. You know

(01:30:35):
he's been on pop staff and again are continued best
wishes to Greg Popovich and and but the way this
team plays with this energy and shan Gun, who I
still think is one of the more maybe not underrated,
but national praise he doesn't get because on the offensive end,
he's a double double machine.

Speaker 4 (01:30:52):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
They're gonna be fun to watch over the next few years.
This isn't just an Astros in Texans town. The the
Houston Rockets are pretty damn formidable and they are exciting
and thrilling to watch. We've got a bunch of those
guys who can do a bunch of different things. It's
gonna be their Their success is going to be determined
on obviously staying healthy that usually happens, and the ability

(01:31:12):
to stay bought in on the defensive end, sustained throughout
a season, not because you need to the first thirty games,
but when it gets a nutcut in time, triple.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
If you want to punch up Brandon, I know he
wants to get in on the Rockets conversation. Brandon, what's up, Buddy?

Speaker 10 (01:31:28):
Good morning, Dang, good morning, Sean.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
Good morning, Hey buddy.

Speaker 10 (01:31:32):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
Hey, nice to see you again.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
Oh man, it's great to be heard. How you doing.

Speaker 10 (01:31:39):
I'm there, Okay, Locketts. We need to win and we
need to beat the Clippers.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
It'd be nice.

Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
I mean, look, you're not even to December yet, and
that's when the season gets started. But I mean, for
everything me and Sean have just been talking about Brandon,
I mean, it's at least something to get excited about
with this team.

Speaker 10 (01:32:00):
Yep, Astros any of our Bragman's and a such changed
or no, not sure.

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
Appreciate the call, buddy, As we had Chandler Rome on
with us yesterday and we were talking about that a
little bit. I think he threw out a forty percent
number as of right now of how they feel about Bregman.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
I mean having back, yeah, I mean I already four
or sixty against Yeah, I don't see how the offer
from them or somebody else isn't gonna get towards one
huh buck eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
But here's the thing though, that gives me confidence is,
you know, as well as anyone you talk with the
man every single week during the season, almost to a fault,
Dana Brown will not lead you down the wrong path.
I mean, it's it's one of those you know, hey,
are you gonna make a deal. Oh yeah, we're gonna
make a deal, and people are okay with what and
you go out and get you say Kakuchi and it

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completely worked out. I mean, him talking the way he
was last week of sync, they feel really good. He's
got to feel pretty good. If you know, he's probably conversations.
He goes Jim Crane, here's what they're looking for, all right,
give him that we're feeling, you know, if that's what,
If that's what he wants, we'll make it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
And Chandler Rome's been on top of all this for
you know, all season long and on the Bregman stuff
obviously postseason. I'm a big believer that you can't I'm
not the GM or the owner, but you have to
make your first I'm not talking about the qualifying offer.
That's what twenty twenty one million year whatever your first offer,

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whatever that is, or if it's been a wo that
we don't know if it's been offered or no, you know,
whatever that is that we find out about, don't make
it twenty five million.

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
Well, yes, I think if nothing else, you've got to
be in a good position before Sodo signs, because after
Soto signs, you're going to have if the Yankees lose
him or if I don't know the Cubs were trying
to get him, or whoever it was that's out there
and seeing, Hey, our fan base is looking at us
to really be able to make us splash are this offseason,
and maybe it's not one Soto, but it can be

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this guy, or it can be Pete Alonzo or somebody
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
That's that's where I think you're up against. For me,
it just knowing athletes been time. I'm not saying bregmant
because I've not had, you know, conversation with Pregman, but
the competitor and the way athletes are that you don't
want to that's it on the first offer because they'll
feel slighted. I'm just whether he will the most right

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most do especially if somebody comes in, we'll pay twenty
eight five over the course of six years. Do the math.
We were talking twenty million bucks are a little more right,
so that what would be with like twenty one million dollars.
That's a lot of money. I just it's got to
be not the qualifying. Your offer's got to be competitive.
If you don't want to go in, it's like anything else.
If you go into something negative and thinking negative, it's

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it's hard to flip the switch. If you go in positive,
it's like you know, but you know what they're in
the realm. I can You're not going to get a
hometown discount by making a bad first offer. I'm not
saying that. I'm talking about in any city, and you
will be in the competition if you make a good
first offer and says okay, now we can negotiate. But
if the negotiations so far apart, you'll never be able
to close them with an athlete because they'll say, you
know what, they don't respect me enough. And I'm not

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just saying I'm telling you anywhere if it's if the
and it'll say a lot to how far apart how
somebody else outside the building in another city, if they
blow your offer away, feels highly more highly about you
than we always think the people that were with should
feel more highly about us because they see our work
every day. And I'm going to tell you another thing
with that, and you can finish this with the with
the thoughts on the astros is, do not be surprised,

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and I know that you won't be surprised to you
if Presley moves, right, Yeah, I actually think they're going
to I think they're going to trade. Surprise if he moves.

Speaker 6 (01:35:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
Oh, I think they're going to try to trade for
that for that number. I think they're going to try
to trade him. I do.

Speaker 3 (01:35:49):
I think they're going to try. I just think that
it's going to be one of the surprise deal for you.
I think he's hellify.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
I think that the demotion that they think was bothersome
just my opinion, and I may be one hundred percent wrong,
but it was a demotion. Now you're still get to pay.
It was a demotion.

Speaker 3 (01:36:04):
It just also though you got to go out there,
you gotta do this, there's no doubt do the job.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
Doing the job is one thing, but it was a
demo and some people would have said, no big deal,
I'm getting back there rolling done it, and it just
it feels like it affected him different and he We
may be one hundred percent wrong. Maybe he just didn't
have his best stuff at times this year. He's been
lights out in the postseason for this team and was excellent.
I think he's gonna be a closer somewhere else. That's
my opinion. And I will not be surprised if to

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help build a farm system and do it depending on
twenty million a year, you want Kakuchi or you want
fromber and you're not gonna have to pay Kakuchi twenty million.
I'm just curious. Do not be surprised that that name
comes up in trade talks as well. Don't be surprised.
I'm talking about fromber Well.

Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
You heard Dana Brown say that they'd have to be,
you know, very creative in terms of how they deal
with the rest of this roster. In addition, that's trying
to bring back Bregman. But with Bregman, I think you're fighting.
You're doing two negotiations right now. The money's one thing,
but me and Chandler are both in agreement on this,
they have to prove to them, Hey, we're not only
re upping you for this, but you're going to continue

(01:37:09):
to win here. And here's why. Like that's part of
the presentation that has to be had. You're having to
make a free agent pitch right now to somebody almost
like they weren't even in your own building, because every
single free agent wants to know that. All right, so
you sign me for this? What are you doing about this?
What are you doing about this position? Like, you know,
how are you going to convince me that this thing

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is going to continue to win?

Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
And great athletes, I do know, especially if the money's
far greater somewhere else, and the teams like let's say Washington,
we've discoded. Brian and I were discussing it. They're not
a competitive they're not a World Series contender right now.
They're trending upwards, right, but they're not there yet. But
the fact that they're trending, a guy like Alex Bregman,

(01:37:52):
that personality and that confidence says I can fix it. Yes,
I'll come in here and change it. We will win again,
and we'll win a World Series because as my presence
and the other people we're gonna have a culture shift
on on you know, that mentality of we're back to
being a team that won a World Series, So that
can work in the other team's favor as well on

(01:38:12):
the juices of a competitive athlete where they sell here's
what we're offering you. We're committed to you, and you're
going to be a big reason why we're going to
be back in the playoffs in the World Series.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
Now, you heard Scott Morris even say as much last week,
and I mean, obviously we know about him here, but
I mean you talk about Alex Pregman for a team
like I've I've thrown out the Cubs as a possibility
because that's a team that last year they bring over
Craig Counsel, They've got other high priced guys there, and
that's a fan base that wants to get back to
the feeling the way they did in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
They'll spend money like Philadelphia will like the Dodger. We
know that the we know the teams, the Dodgers, Mets,
those ones, but the Red and the Red Sox. And
when you say, well, he's willing to move to second base,
boris talking about that's a direct contact that's directly pointing
to Boston because of Rafael Dever. Sure, but the truth
of the matter is I move Dever somewhere else in
Bregman would play third base because he's a much better

(01:39:03):
glove than Devers.

Speaker 3 (01:39:04):
In no absolutely, I mean Devs you're counting on the bat,
no doubt about it. But yep, it's gonna be definitely
a tense next few weeks as we find out if
Bregman is still gonna be wearing number two for the Astros.
We've gotten into a little bit of the Rockets conversation.
I know some of you went to weigh in on that.
Also to some of the Gruden stuff from Barstool last night.

(01:39:24):
Pretty funny stuff you're able to keep tabs on that.
We'll get into all of that. Matt McClaren, my good
buddy from the Ticket in Dallas, going to join us
here in about fifteen minutes. We'll have all that as
we continue to roll along here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Dan Matthews in for Brian Lima right here on Sports
Talk seventy ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
Let the celebration start war Sean Salisbury. It's a Sean
Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
Well, I'm sure Josh c and all the.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
Brammer Jammer Alabama fans out there they were happy about
last week.

Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:40:23):
Gordy, wasn't Eddie Martini wasn't. A lot of people not
very happy about how last weekend went. But for the
Crimson Tide fans out there, go ahead reveling it and
enjoy Sean Salisbury's show, Dan Matthews here for Brian Lima
triple e. Emmanuel Elmore of all the headlines I've gone
through this morning of Texans, like I said, continuing their

(01:40:44):
prep for the Cowboys on Monday Night, Thursday Night Football
last night, Rocket's gonna get back out on the floor tonight.
Haven't mentioned three astros named to the All MLB Team
last night. Second team honors for Jose Altuve, Jordan Alvarez
and also for from Er Valdez getting those last night.
So congrats to those guys for the seasons they were

(01:41:07):
able to put together. He got Jose L Twove with
yet another silver Slugger, got Alex Bregman.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
With the gold Gloves.

Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
So, all of a sudden, what was considered to be
a very disappointing season for many, not incredibly disappointing, So
got that going for you.

Speaker 1 (01:41:21):
Yeah, the way it ended wasn't good. But they the
after the what twelve and twenty two or twenty four start,
they came on and played some pretty damn good baseball.
It's just that the expectations are so high playoffs aren't
good enough for them anymore. Well, and I understand that
because they've that that's a self inflicted problem but a
good thing. Yeah, because they've been so good for so

(01:41:41):
many years that we just and I don't want to
say it's below us that they just made the playoffs,
but there's this feeling of oh, great, cool, thumbs up,
we're better than this.

Speaker 3 (01:41:52):
There's tangible expectation, no question, Like we'll get back into
the Texans conversation, there's tangible expectations as opposed to the texts.
Is more of dealing with hope in that regard off
of the season they had last year and the additions
they made, and I under seeing people feeling the way
that they did and still do about this Texans team,
about what they can accomplish. But I mean the Rockets

(01:42:14):
are trying to do that as well. I mean they're
they're trying to recreate those expectations again of getting back
to the playoffs, getting back to the Western Conference Finals,
and having a chance to play for it all.

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
When it's all said and done, and at some point
that's coming, I would think, I would hope sooner than later.

Speaker 3 (01:42:33):
I mean, and it's gonna have some different faces, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:42:37):
That's part of what the development of this team has
been about. Getting people to buy in. And when they
come in, it's like going to Kansas City Chiefs, right,
you somehow go there and they they're doing it the
right way, as has been doing it the right way
for a while. But you keep losing Corey your team.
Eventually there's a there's gonna be a little bit of
a gas that's important.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
It's it's the giving tree effect, like the children's book
The Giving Tree, you know about it. You can take
all the branches, apples, all those different things. Soon enough
it becomes a stump. That's what I worry about with
losing Alex Bregmantro.

Speaker 1 (01:43:06):
No, you have to plant well.

Speaker 3 (01:43:07):
I mean it is also too, I mean that's the
problem of you know, you run into the early twenty
tens of Hey, this thing's gonna be great. Oh it
is and then sure enough twenty fifteen it was ahead
of schedule. Twenty seventeen, we saw what it looked like.
So that's all part of it. Let's head back out
to the phone lines. Will and Katie wants to wait
in here on Sports Talk seven ninety Will, what's up.

Speaker 4 (01:43:27):
Good morning, guys.

Speaker 13 (01:43:29):
I just first off, I called it talked about the Rockets.
I don't think I've ever made a Rockets call, But
I want to chime in on Bregman real quick.

Speaker 6 (01:43:36):
I if he.

Speaker 13 (01:43:37):
Goes anywhere besides the Astros, I really don't mind the Phillies.
I think I was a fan back in the day
when they had like Utley and Howard and all them.
But I think Man with that lineup, if he went
there and that pitching staff, I think they'd be really
fun to watch. Of course, I don't want him to leave,
but and also Texas is way more fun than living

(01:44:01):
in Philly.

Speaker 1 (01:44:02):
I hate Philly.

Speaker 13 (01:44:03):
But anyway, so going back to the Rockets, I don't
think we've ever I've ever seen a Rockets team where
we are known for our defense, like, they're extremely fun
to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:44:18):
I guess our couch name is Emmy Adoku.

Speaker 13 (01:44:22):
Is that how you say it, Doka, But man, they
are I just watching them the last couple of games
were are they're Jalen Green has to be the fastest
player in the NBA and then like Tarry Easton Aman Thompson,
Like it's just a.

Speaker 1 (01:44:38):
Blast to watch.

Speaker 13 (01:44:39):
And I couldn't remember the last time that we were
known for defense.

Speaker 1 (01:44:43):
We've always had like you.

Speaker 13 (01:44:45):
Know, James Harden who doesn't play, and we this year
what we're I think they said the other day we
are top three and defensive rebounds and second chance scoring
and against the Clippers the other day we had.

Speaker 1 (01:44:57):
Fifteen second chance points and they had zero. And so
if there's yeah, if their defense holds up, will and
they are on the offensive glass and they're getting second
chance points. If this, if this is sustainable, which I
think it is because you've got a guy who buy,
who believes in it and teaches it and preaches it
in Udoka, they will make the playoffs. They're gonna score enough,

(01:45:18):
but they will make the playoffs. If they continue this
commitment on the defensive end and getting to the backboards,
on the offensive glass with second chance points, they will
make the playoffs.

Speaker 13 (01:45:29):
Yeah, that's just I'm out they're exciting to watch, I
mean up and down the court. They're fast, they're young,
they're energetic. So yeah, I just want to call in
and give them praise for, you know, transitioning into something
different than what we're used to.

Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
But still they're fun to watch. I can't wait to
see what they can do, no doubt appreciate the call. Well, now,
I mean that is everything you just said is not wrong.
And you know, I mean another part of it as well.
You get a men Thompson and Tarry Easton coming off
the bench doing what they're doing for this team. I
know there's a lot of calls for or either one
of those guys to be able to slide in for

(01:46:02):
Jabari Smith Junior, because I mean I watched I think
it was the game before the Clipper game, and he
missed a shot just horribly and you saw the look
on his face and I was like, that's a guy
that's lacking confidence. I couldn't be more surprised by his
lack of production the way he's played this year. It's
just he doesn't trust a shot, that's the problem. And

(01:46:23):
that's because when you drafted him to be a three
and D guy and he felt like I never a
guarantee in sports, but he felt like this is success
waiting to have and obviously he still got plenty of
time to get still.

Speaker 3 (01:46:37):
I remember, no doubt, remember how we were talking last
year about Jalen.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
Grill before the trade deadline. Well, we're gonna ship him.
We're gonna ship him. They saw something different and he
turned it on in the second half and played great basketball.
I'm expecting Jabari Smith to pick this up, but you're right,
this may simply he didn't forget how to play.

Speaker 3 (01:46:54):
Let's put it that way. And I mean you hope
that maybe I don't know. I mean, you do slide
in Tari Easton there if you feel like that he
can give you that spark, and maybe coming off the
bench is a better spot for Jabari Smith Junior.

Speaker 1 (01:47:06):
Then the kids, I mean the Rockets, the front office
and the head coach and the win and teammates alone.
You know when you're going buy in and believability with
other with your teammates. At some point in time, though
we can say yay, he's got potentially he's got to
do it, we don't know how deeply they feel. Do
they feel like with a confidence change like they did
with Jalleen Green. The things are going to change for

(01:47:28):
Jabari Smith that he's going to get back to being
the guy we expect. And we took him over with a
third pick of the draft here we meaning the Rockets,
So it is going to speak volumes about his run
and how he picks it up. And I'm curious how
they how they coach him and teach him and talk
to him right now through this right I'm always in
the psychological aspect of do you let guys because it's

(01:47:50):
in everything. It's not like football once a week, there's
so much time in between. You know, you play a game,
two nights later, you're playing again, playing again, so you
get it. It's like baseball. You get out of slump's quicker.
You know, they don't fester as long. But with this,
and he knows these athletes know how you're talking about them,
meaning their their lights out. They're struggling. They know you
don't have to do this. There were not Most of
the athletes are pretty self scouting. They get it and understand.

(01:48:14):
But I just wonder where the team's confidence, not just
his well, the team's confidence is not just now in
his ability, but his ability to fix this and play
the way he's capable of playing, and why you drafted
him that high.

Speaker 3 (01:48:26):
Well, still a long way to go in the season,
and hopefully he can kind of get that confidence back.
I mean we saw j you know, Jalen Green deal
with that a little bit last year. So we'll see
how it all goes when it's all said and done. Bitsic,
I see you right there. Well, I get to my
good buddy Matt McLaren from the Ticket in Dallas.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
He's coming up next.

Speaker 3 (01:48:44):
We'll get back into the Texans conversation with the Texans
and the Cowboys coming up on Monday nights. We'll do
that right here. Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
Were there The Sewn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 3 (01:48:57):
Continued, well, maybe even a little bit of spots. I
don't know who knows. As we continue along here on
the Sean Salisbury Show, Dan Matthews in for Brian a
lima triple, Emmanuel Elmore also to Sean himself.

Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
Let's head out to the phone lines.

Speaker 3 (01:49:16):
My good buddy Matt McLaren, part of the invasion ten
to one every day on the Ticket up there in Dallas,
joining us here, one.

Speaker 1 (01:49:23):
Of the more legendary lived in Dallas for about a
decade or n ten years, and if you look across the country,
this is one of the more legendary sports radio stations
in the country. Honestly, they do a fantastic job in
half forever. I'm sure Matt and those guys are tired
of collecting all those awards they get over there.

Speaker 3 (01:49:41):
Marconi is upon, Marconi's up there in DFW for these guys,
Matt's good to hear from you again, man.

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
But let's just start off.

Speaker 3 (01:49:50):
I mean, the way that Texan fans are feeling down here,
it's kind of a little bit of a mixed bag.
All the expectations coming into this season. But in Dallas
there's always expectations. But I got I believe this offseason
was a little bit different because I'm sure every day
you all on the air were like, Jerry, where are
the moves? Like you're not there yet? Like what are
we doing? I thought we were all in Like how

(01:50:11):
are Cowboy fans kind of approaching Monday night scheme?

Speaker 1 (01:50:13):
I think is where I'm kind of getting to.

Speaker 14 (01:50:16):
Well, I would imagine, first off, thanks for having me.
I appreciate it, you guys, and Sean You're not wrong.
We do enjoy the Marconi's quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
Hey, you guys dominate.

Speaker 8 (01:50:24):
Brother.

Speaker 1 (01:50:24):
All of us are envious. You've been doing it for
so long and killing it, so it's great to you. Guys.
Do a hell of a job.

Speaker 14 (01:50:29):
Man, you bet, but man, I'll tell you, guys, and
this is probably the truth. If people have tickets that
are Cowboys fans that are going to the game, they're
trying to sell them to Texans fans. And if you're
like me and you're just gonna watch the game, you're
just hoping that they don't get slaughtered. I mean, it's
not a good feeling right now. This is a horrible team.

Speaker 4 (01:50:47):
I don't know where they're gonna go from here. It
just feels.

Speaker 14 (01:50:50):
And you mentioned it, Dan, I mean, it's one of
those things where in the off season, I think most
of us could point to a variety of spots on
the roster.

Speaker 4 (01:50:58):
Man, you could have done this, we need to do this.

Speaker 14 (01:51:01):
I don't know if i'd go with that right there,
And Jerry apparently knows better than everybody. And I think
a lot of us, most of the guys on the station,
figured the Cowboys would drop off. I don't think anybody
thought this would happen, but we knew that another man,
even a double digit win season was going to be unlikely,
just because of they're inactivity to do anything in the

(01:51:22):
off season and the guys that they lost, and sure
enough it plays out on the field and everybody, I
feel like even fans are sitting there going, Jerry, how
did you not see this coming?

Speaker 4 (01:51:31):
Yeah, I've seen this coming in the off season. He
did nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:51:34):
Yeah, Matt, it feels to me. And we'll get to
Jerry in a second my next question, but it feels
to me. And we all know how great a marketer
Jerry is, and he's the face of the France. I
never liked the owner to be the face of the franchise.
That tells me something's wrong players, coaches wise. But I
digress is it almost felt arrogant this offseason because in truth,
Matt Matta, you're there all the time and you see

(01:51:55):
it every day. This really when you go player for player,
depth for depth down the roster that talented, there's pieces
that are talented the entire but the s they're not
really that good. So you were right they were going
to take a step back anyway, right.

Speaker 4 (01:52:09):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 14 (01:52:10):
I mean even and again, even with full health, if
Mike hadn't missed a month, if DeMarcus Lawrence never got hurt.
People forget those guys are on the field, The defense
was healthy when Baltimore ran all over them and had
him blown out going into the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 (01:52:24):
They were all in the field when New Orleans blew
them out of the building.

Speaker 14 (01:52:28):
So yeah, I think when you look at this, you
knew you were probably an injury away from disaster, which
this has turned into. But even then, to your point,
if health was never an issue with this team, I
still think they would have struggled at best to get
to nine lands.

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
Yeah, after that big season last season, at least regular
season and how great they were at home, and this
year it's been anything but that. So I want to
look ahead about Jerry Jones, And people ask me all
the time, Matt, I'm sure you guys get it a
ton of times. Is well, if Mike McCarthy it's fired,
what are we going to do? Well, We're going to
go after like Bill Belichick or one of those guys.

(01:53:05):
And I contend here that you're never going to see
that as long as Jerry's making the higher. Why and
Jerry's always going to make the higher is Jerry never
wants anybody in that building, in that position to have
more power than him, and a guy like Belichick would
take away from him be in the face of the organization.
I don't think they're ever going to hire a guy
like that, do you no?

Speaker 14 (01:53:24):
And I don't think that they may want to. But
to your point, I don't think that Bill Belichick would
want to come here and work under a guy You're
exactly right, Jerry's not going to give up the control.
And you kind of look at the coaches that he's
brought in from Wade who ever since Parcels really who
was the last Belichick type figure?

Speaker 4 (01:53:41):
You know, you look at Wade, who was a yes man.

Speaker 14 (01:53:43):
You look at Jason Garrett, who of course had been
affiliated with the franchise for forever, who is going to
do whatever they needed.

Speaker 4 (01:53:48):
And then Mike McCarthy. I think people forget this.

Speaker 14 (01:53:51):
Mike McCarthy when he got let go of the Packers,
he said he would never allow someone else to call
plays again, that he thought that was a big mistake
that he made at the end of his Packers tenure.
So what's he do he comes to Dallas, gets hired,
and he's like, oh yeah, Kellen Moore is gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:54:05):
Call the plays. It'll be great.

Speaker 14 (01:54:06):
That obviously came from Jerry when they kept him around originally.
And then of course you get to the point where
things aren't going your way, they.

Speaker 4 (01:54:12):
Get rid of Kellen Moore.

Speaker 14 (01:54:13):
McCarthy finally takes over play calling, and I mean the
whole thing is broken.

Speaker 4 (01:54:18):
I don't know what they're gonna do with coach.

Speaker 14 (01:54:20):
I think a lot of us would love for a
guy like Ben Johnson from the Lions, right, and you'all
have a guy down there we'd love to have and
Bobby Slowick. But do those guys want to come and
have the structure in place above them that exists in Dallas.

Speaker 4 (01:54:34):
I don't know if they do.

Speaker 1 (01:54:36):
And let's not Dan, you I know you got stuff
from that here is let's not forget Dave Campbell, who
I love. Dave was a great assistant. Dave Campbell was
the head coach. He's never going to let anybody challenge
the threat of more credit than me, And that's just
Jerry's DNA.

Speaker 14 (01:54:49):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:54:50):
I mean, you know Matt Kinds at that same point.
I mean, we've got a guy that work with on
the afternoon show here, Adam Clanton, and he compared Jerry
yesterday to It's McMahon and I mean, you know, just
talking about it's all the pomp and circumstances, everything the
family works around him, kind of same deal there in Dallas.
But no, it's it's a mess, no doubt about it.

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I mean, you know, it's not only this season though, Matt.
I mean, I've got to believe kind of the way
that you're talking here and maybe the way that Cowboy
fans feel in general that I mean, is it kind
of a little bit of a fear up there of
this is a precursor of what's to come here for
the next few years.

Speaker 4 (01:55:26):
I think so.

Speaker 14 (01:55:27):
I think there's a lot of people that were against
the long term back contract four more years. With the
money that was invested, there's people who can look at
it and you know, Sean's right, I mean, this roster
doesn't have a lot of depth. There are some high
level pieces that they have invested in. They're going to
invest in Micah and then behind that, you know, Trayvon Diggs.

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There's there's a variety of guys that can stand.

Speaker 4 (01:55:50):
Out at positions, but they just don't have the depth.

Speaker 14 (01:55:52):
And when you look at that, they're not one player away,
they're not two players away. It looks like they're going
to get a pretty high draft pick. We'll see what
happens with that. But it just feels like this roster
is going to have to go through a couple of years,
which most of the time the cyclical NFL. I mean,
they were twelve and five for three seasons in a row.
Had it laid out perfectly for him last year and

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late they laid at home in the playoffs against green Bay,
and man, that lost. Honestly, that lost to green Bay
feels like it broke this thing.

Speaker 4 (01:56:25):
And yet the culture is not going to change.

Speaker 14 (01:56:28):
Yeah, how you got the same leaders are in place
and they're not going to go anywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:56:32):
So it does feel that way. Dan, it feels like this.

Speaker 14 (01:56:35):
It feels like we may be headed towards the bottom
of the NFL for the next three or four years.

Speaker 1 (01:56:40):
Matt, is there any scenario and Mike McCarthy had a
good run in Green Bay, it's not working. There's buy
in missing. It feels like where's Waldle around that team
right now? And just from a distance, you know, well,
who's in charge of this guy, who's leading? What are
we doing here? Why not here? Is there any scenario
you see? Jerry says Mike's coming back in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (01:57:03):
There's no way I'm barring.

Speaker 1 (01:57:05):
Okay, we say that, Matt, You and I both know
the temptation for Jerry to be there will be there.
You and I both know that.

Speaker 14 (01:57:15):
I mean, it just feels like he let him go
into the final year of his contract.

Speaker 4 (01:57:20):
I mean, the whole coaching staff is on one year deals.

Speaker 14 (01:57:22):
Or essentially the last year of their deal if they're not,
and so it just feels like there were a lot
of high expectations this year and Jerry didn't give them
anything to work with truly to.

Speaker 4 (01:57:33):
Achieve those expectations.

Speaker 14 (01:57:34):
It's almost like he wanted them to fail, Like you
set them up right to fail, and now they're failing.
So yeah, I personally would be shocked if they kept
Mike McCarthy around. But barring some sort of miraculous run,
which isn't going to happen, then yeah, I think the
whole coaching staff is gone.

Speaker 3 (01:57:52):
Two part for you, Matt, to get you out the
door again, Matt McClaren from the Ticket in Dallas, part
of the invasion ten to one every single weekday up
there with Donovan Lewis with the Cowboys. I mean, what
is something that you look at from this matchup and say, hey,
if they can do this, they come out of Monday
night with a win. But the second part of it

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as well is the Texans. What do you think you
guys look at with the Texans team and say, man,
that could be pretty tough to overcome in this one.

Speaker 14 (01:58:22):
Man, I hate to be facetious, but I wanted to
say everything, but.

Speaker 4 (01:58:28):
I mean, honestly, man, it's bad. And it's one of
those things.

Speaker 14 (01:58:32):
I think we all thought Cooper Rush would look a
little better than he did last week, and he was
just not good. So you've got to hope that his
ball location, that he's making passes that receivers can catch.
I mean, this Cowboys offense is I mean, you guys
know this. They're bottom five and virtually every statistic, every
metric you want to look at, they're one of the

(01:58:52):
worst offenses at the very bottom of the league. I
don't think that's going to change against the Houston defense,
And the main problem becomes It's not just Houston. It
will be next week against Washington. Down the line, where
can this offense score enough points to win a football game?
And when I say enough points, I'm talking can they
get the twenty? Think if they can get the twenty,
then you got a defense who with Micah back now,

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they looked solid in the first half against the Eagles
last week with the five sacks.

Speaker 4 (01:59:18):
They forced two turnovers in the first.

Speaker 14 (01:59:20):
Half, and it just felt like, Okay, the defense was
going out there making some plays, put in the offense
in good positions. They had a turnover where they had
the ball at the six yard line. The defense gave
them the ball at the six yard line and they
got nothing out of it. And so if the offense
is going to do that, I think the defense in
the second half against the Eagles kind of said.

Speaker 4 (01:59:38):
Well, okay, guys, we did what we could.

Speaker 14 (01:59:40):
You obviously don't have anything, and it just feels like
we can't run the ball, we can't pass the ball,
we can't stop the run.

Speaker 4 (01:59:48):
So how do you beat a team when you can't
do those things? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:59:54):
That's pretty tough, no doubt about it. Real quick man,
Any chance that Trey Lance. I know he got a
little work. Any chance at Trey Lance if the struggle
is real, I mean like it has been and the
quarterback's not playing well, that Trey Lance sees extensive action.
I'm not sure it's gonna do much, uh do much
for it. But is there any chance that we may
see a two quarterback thing this week on Monday Night?

Speaker 4 (02:00:14):
I think so.

Speaker 14 (02:00:15):
I think that they'll run some packages for him, and
if it starts to get out of hand, I think
you'll definitely see Trey Lance come into the game kind of.

Speaker 4 (02:00:21):
Like you did at the end of the Eagles, right.

Speaker 14 (02:00:23):
I mean as far as the rest of the season,
I think after the Giants game on Thanksgiving, when they
lose their next three, you very well may see Trey
Lance one hundred percent of the time.

Speaker 1 (02:00:33):
Matt McLaren to take a futures bet, Matt said they're
losing the next three, I'll go to bet on it.
There we go, fel Yes, yeah, brother, we appreciate it
quite a few times, no doubt about it. Again.

Speaker 3 (02:00:44):
Matt McLaren joining us from the ticket up there in DFW. Matt,
you're the best buddy. Great to catch up with you
as always and Uh, gotta believe we're in line for
a beer too next time we see each other.

Speaker 1 (02:00:57):
Keep that man, keep up that great keep up that
great work down there. Matt, appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (02:01:01):
Man, appreciate you guys. Thanks so much.

Speaker 1 (02:01:03):
I appreciate it. We're up there.

Speaker 3 (02:01:06):
We're going to say we're you know, because what was
it the guy up there when the you had Ranger
fans coming out of the stadium after Altuve hit the
home run, he had the line of just remember up
here in DFW, we flush our toilets for you to
be able to show here. Yeah, you know, that's that's
part of that's part of the whole Houston Dallas dynamic there.

Speaker 1 (02:01:25):
But no mass thanks stuff. It's got to be frustrating.
Well it's got to be good fodder, but it's got
to be frustrating. And he said, fans are selling tickets
and they'd like to sell them.

Speaker 3 (02:01:36):
Because that's the thing. I mean, you know, because the cowboys.
If nothing else, you know, the people who can't stand
cowboy fans, it's because of how boisterous and you know,
just how arrogant they are in terms of, hey, we're
the cowboys. I mean, you've heard it, right, there from Matt.
There's not a ton of that right now. There's a
lot of feeling of kind of hope we just keep
it close in this one. So, I mean, if nothing else,

(02:01:58):
that's a little bit of a advantage confidence wise that
you feel like you got if you're a Texan fanning
heading into that building on Monday night, because you know,
if you're wearing battle red, Liberty white, and deep steel blue,
you're feeling a lot better than people who are going
in there wearing silver and silver and blue.

Speaker 1 (02:02:16):
This would be the I'm just saying this. I don't
think it's going to happen by any stretch. I've actually
picked them to lose the last two games the Texans
against the Jets and against Detroit. I do believe that
this would be the worst loss of the year if
they If the Cowboys, even though it's the arrival, they're down,
you know, the up the interstate four hours away, it's

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the Cowboys. All that that should bring out even more
in you. If they lose this game, it it would
rank up with the Carolina, if not worse than the
Carolina Panthers loss because of who the Cowboys are.

Speaker 3 (02:02:49):
Well, it also too, I mean, you just talked about
like the interstate pride that you have, the in state pride,
not interstate we are in state.

Speaker 1 (02:02:57):
That would be part of it as well, that Texan
fans listen to it all year. No matter what success
you have, you'll have to hear it all your long.
The truth is, if you play your best, you should
curb stop them. And the way they've played at home
this year, the Cowboys that acts like they're spotting you
a touchdown before you even get started.

Speaker 3 (02:03:14):
That's the way they've been playing this year. So we'll
see if it breaks down that way on Monday night.
All right, coming up next, get back into the Texans conversation. Rockets,
you want to interweave that in, you can do so
as well. Seven one three, two, one two five, seven ninety.
A lot of good stuff from Matt as well that
we can pick up on the other side right here
on the Sean Salisbury Show, Dan Matthews in for Brian Lima.

(02:03:35):
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Speaker 2 (02:03:40):
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Speaker 1 (02:03:51):
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Speaker 3 (02:03:54):
Sports Talk seven ninety, Sean Salisbury Show, Dan Matthews in
for Brian Lima, Triple E Emmanuel Elmore, Texans getting ready
for the Cowboys on Monday night. Just heard from Matt
McLaren from the ticket up there in DFW.

Speaker 1 (02:04:10):
Matt's a really good guy.

Speaker 4 (02:04:12):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:04:12):
Kind of similar stories in terms of me and old
Matt as he's a DFW guy as you heard with
Texas State, big craft beer guy, huge craft beer guy,
like one of those you know if if you're going
to grab a beer, hey, how's this one, he'll be
able to tell you. Like he's almost like a Samuia
of craft beer. You get him some spindle tap, I
think so, yeah, yeah, absolutely, I agree with that very going.

Speaker 1 (02:04:35):
Around these parts as the tap you know what, they're
not really but I just said it.

Speaker 3 (02:04:39):
Well, I mean if you're saying it, then it's true.
I mean you make it, make it happen. Oh don't
we do that nowadays? Like it's almost like Michael Scott
on the office when he yelled out I declare bankruptcy
and people just say, hey, if I say things out
out loud, they're true.

Speaker 1 (02:04:52):
Yeah, they automatically matter. So there you go, right, so
you just made it happen. Tap, head over the tap.
I will head over to the tap. I've got your blessing.
I will absolutely be over there. You'll love it. A
lot of good stuff there, great food too. So if
you get the tog go on a day when you
have berea, tacos and top Ramen, soup, brisket, top ramen,
really and grab yourself one of them cold beers. And

(02:05:13):
they got all you know, they got the painkiller drink
which is not which is like a So it seems like,
you know, moderation with that one is the way to go. Yeah,
but let me tell you something, brother, Once you eat
that brisket top ramen sitting that dog on thing and
watch a game and have a beer, you will you'll
say top ramen from when you were in college a

(02:05:34):
whole different ball game. I'll get.

Speaker 3 (02:05:36):
Yeah, Now this isn't just you know, pour some water on, No, no,
put that little packet in there like this is like
the actual good stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:05:43):
It will say. It will make you say, you know,
I could eat top ramen every day again like we
did in college. But this is a whole another level
of top Ramen. Well, brisket is Texas's bacon. I mean,
it makes everything better. We know that. I'm gonna tell
you what top Ramen you'll say it will hit completely different.
But that's a great place and Brody Chapman and his
guys have built something really special there and boutiquish and

(02:06:06):
unique and I love it. I'm in. I'm in.

Speaker 3 (02:06:08):
You throw the invite, you know where to find me
there you go. So, yeah, Matt, he spent some time
out in Birmingham. That's how I got to know him
as the SEC Media days karaoke, you know, that's that's
where we struck up a friendship. And just like me
heading out east coming back to Houston, he did the
same thing going out there and going back to DFW.

Speaker 1 (02:06:30):
So Matt's good dude. I really appreciate him.

Speaker 3 (02:06:33):
But man, he is not feeling good about that Cowboys team.
I mean, look, it's one of those even a blind
man can see, because even a blind man can see
that this Cowboys team is not good at all. We
knew that coming into this season. And that's the thing too,
is you know, remember when c J. Stroud and Micah
Parsons had that show they were doing there during the

(02:06:54):
draft and talking about who the best team in Texas is.

Speaker 1 (02:06:56):
I mean c J.

Speaker 3 (02:06:57):
Stroud was calling a shot time saying they know we know,
and we're going to show it.

Speaker 1 (02:07:03):
And even if you can't see it, like you said,
if a blind man can't see it, maybe even if
a blind man can, but if he can't, all you
got to do is listen to the buzz, not the
buzz radio stage. You can listen there too, sure, yeah,
but yeah, and everybody they'll tell you there's'll bit phenomenal,
but the overall buzz in the state and nationally, you
don't have to see it to understand what they're saying
about the Dallas Cowboys right now.

Speaker 3 (02:07:23):
I mean, and it's also too, you know, just to
kind of continue along with what we were talking about
with him, like you saw this coming into the season,
like Jerry's defensive right now because he knows, hey, we
should have gone and gotten Derrick Henry, like he can
talk about the play concept right now. No, absolutely, it
is because that team is one hundred percent better if
you have Derrick Henry. Even with the injuries they've had

(02:07:45):
on the offensive line, Zach Martin's banged up, all of
those different things. That's a different football team even without
Dak Prescot go to friggin novel concept. Do you mean
that when you get more talented players. You're actually better. Yeah,
some of the Cowboys didn't think about this season. Sadly enough,
for a guy who should know better after all these
years and having been the owner of a team that

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had the greatest, one of the greatest rosters ever and
not being able to at least see part of the
forest of the trees is borderline embarrassing. Well, see, Matt,
he does know better, Sean, Sean, I'm sorry, Bob, he
does know better. Like that's the problem in the whole
thing is. And I've had this theory that Jared's saying.

Speaker 1 (02:08:27):
It almost feels like they did it on.

Speaker 3 (02:08:28):
Purpose, because here's the thing is going twelve and five
in having people believing in the team every single year,
it's profitable, it works, it's a good business model. But
then you start to believe, oh, well, hey, you know,
we've we've got the pieces here, we can make this
thing happen, when deep down he knows, and even to
Will McLay and the personnel staff they have up there,

(02:08:50):
I guarantee you they've told them, hey, we've got to
improve this, we've got to improve that, we've got to
do all these different types of things that Jerry finally says,
oh no, no, no, no, We've got this thing. It's rolling,
it's working well. He's got full stadiums, he's got people
watching the games, he's got people buying the gear.

Speaker 1 (02:09:07):
What is the motivation to change? Is where I'm getting
at with all of this. And he's got Super Bowl rings,
so he always has that to stand on for legacy
if that's what he wants. But the truth is we're
judging Jerry just as hard, if not harder now for
what he's not doing as opposed to what he did
do when he had Troy and Michael and Emmett and
that whole group, Darren Woodson in the whole group. It
just is frustrating. And I mean, I don't carr either way,

(02:09:27):
but the as the franchise, decision maker, personnel guy, and
face of the franchise, and Jerry's all three and he
wants to be all three did It's borderline insanity for
you to think that this is fair enough to put
on the field and expect success on a regular va.

Speaker 3 (02:09:45):
He's an emperor with no clothes on right now, one
hundred percent. Because he still thinks that they are that team.
He still thinks they are that organization and they're not,
and they haven't been for over almost thirty years now.
I think, wait, what next year is going to be
thirty years? Say, last one a world title? And even
since they got past the divisional round, Like, what are

(02:10:05):
we doing here, man, when it's all said and done.

Speaker 1 (02:10:07):
Not much? Not much and your postseason that's just a fact.
You want to know what they're doing. Not much.

Speaker 3 (02:10:13):
And I mean, and as we heard from Matt McLaren,
it doesn't sound like it's going to change anytime soon either.
All right, John, Biscuit, see you guys right there is
We'll continue on with the Texans conversation on the other
side as well as Biscuit, I know you want to
get into a little bit of rockets.

Speaker 1 (02:10:29):
We'll do that as well.

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the hour, our good buddy Chris Gordy gonna stop by
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Texans and Cowboys coming up Monday night. By the way,
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Texans and the Cowboys on Monday night. So we swap
out him for Chris Gordy coming up at nine thirty.
So Gordy gonna be hopping on with us to talk

(02:12:17):
a little college ball also to get into Texans Cowboys
Thursday Night Football last night, we'll hear from again. So
I'm sure some of you saw yesterday John Gruden got
hired on by Barstool and usually they'll they'll do their
watch alongs, live streams, all those different types of things.
And he was there last night with PFT, Big Cat,

(02:12:38):
with port Andoy and some of the other underlings that
they have there at Barstool. I don't see that to
be like flippant, you know, like push those guys aside,
but you know, it's just a bunch of guys that
I mean, it's almost on a daily basis. Hey, you
know this is so and so, and I'm like, I
have no idea who that is. But you know, you know,
the the big characters are damn right they do. And

(02:13:00):
you know, we'll get into that too a little bit
later on when we play some of the John Gruden stuff,
because I mean, it kind of just speaks about.

Speaker 1 (02:13:06):
Our industry overall. And I'm a big fan.

Speaker 3 (02:13:09):
So anyway, we'll do that the Rockets tonight as well,
getting on the floor, which Thursday Night Football didn't finish
that thought. The Eagles take down the Commanders twenty six
to eighteen. A lot of stuff too from that one,
especially later on the game to get into. But they
beat the Commanders and take Thursday Night Football and the

(02:13:31):
Rockets on the floor tonight taking on the Clippers as
part of the NBA Cup. So we've gotten into a
little bit of a Rockets conversation. We can lead it
off right there because he's been waiting patiently, Biscuit. We
always know we can count on him here on the
Sean Salisbury Show. Biscuit, what's up, buddy?

Speaker 4 (02:13:48):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (02:13:49):
Dan?

Speaker 8 (02:13:50):
Hey, Danfore I get through the Rockets man being as
Sean knows of being a longtime cowboy fan man, Yes, Sean.
Over the thirty years, it's been thirty years, Shan, and
and all those thirty years, the heat was never put
on Jerry. Was always somebody else was a problem.

Speaker 1 (02:14:08):
Yep.

Speaker 8 (02:14:09):
And it's always it's always Jerry's always been the problem, Sean,
but it's always been pointed to somebody else. This is
the first time that Jerry's had to start answer some questions.

Speaker 1 (02:14:20):
He's not comforting. He doesn't like doing it either. It's
uncomfortable for him to be. He wants to be the
focus just not when it's negative. That's a fact.

Speaker 8 (02:14:28):
Not when it's negative. And because Sean to me and
you're gonna you can correct him, I'm showing Dak Prescott
has been an excuse for Jerry for about ten years.
Dak has not been the problem. If the problem is
our team just wasn't good enough and we were never
seen to be prepared when it came to big time

(02:14:48):
games and then but always blame was pointed to Dak.
Never mind, we couldn't run. We ain't been able to
run the ball a few years, Jean, that's for sure.
We couldn't stop to run.

Speaker 6 (02:14:57):
We couldn't stop to run in a few years.

Speaker 8 (02:15:00):
And he let the wrong coach go. He should have
signed Quinn and let McCarthy go and then went from there.
But you know, that's that's my take on the Cowboys
getting to the Rocket, Sean, And we've talked about it.
The big the biggest guy I'm looking at for the
Rockets is Jabari Smith, and I already.

Speaker 1 (02:15:24):
Goes from here, buddy, where he goes from here.

Speaker 8 (02:15:27):
I'm already on record, Sean, the Rockets gonna have a
seven or eight game improvement over last year for this year.
The year before I predicted sixteen, they had a nineteen.
They don't have a seven eight game. But the key
is gonna be Jabbari. We know Green is gonna play Seane.
I told you, uh, Easton and Amen. I wouldn't be
surprised that a man getting put in the starting lineup,

(02:15:48):
but Amen, and Easton and and and Shephard. I think
he's gonna improve as the season goes along. But they
need Jabbari to rebound and play some defense. And he
scored his fine. He got to get some rebounds, and
that's why the other night the coach took him mouth saying,
if you ain't gonna do what I needed to do,
come sit down. He's got to get some rebound and

(02:16:10):
protect the paint. Being his size and stuff, saying we
need somebody to help him. And if Jabari can't do it,
he don't have a seat on the bench.

Speaker 1 (02:16:20):
I appreciate the call, Biscuit, and he's right, because at
some point in time, if you're not feeling the message
one way, you're gonna have to feel it the other
and it's going to cut into playing time, which it
will extensively if it doesn't change.

Speaker 3 (02:16:31):
He's going through what Jalen Green went through last year.
As you saw Jalen Green, it was twofold number one.
He did not trust his shot number two. It was
if he was struggling on the offensive end, it leaked
into his defensive.

Speaker 1 (02:16:43):
Effect to the other side, which you can't And that's
what you know.

Speaker 3 (02:16:45):
To Biscuit's point, I mean, you even saw it play
out the other night of Imo Dooka saying, I gotta
stick with try Easton, I gotta stick with Aman Thompson
out here to work with Jalen and with you know,
Shingoon and all the other guys that were still out
there on the floor, and they were able to close
out the game. I mean, you pull those guys out,
you might have a chance to blow that lead and
lose that game. But he looked at it and said,

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the moment I'm starting to kind of slip away from
us a little bit. I can't go back to my
original starting five. These guys are providing way too much.
And that's why you're hearing the cries for people to say,
all right, well, then start starting those guys.

Speaker 1 (02:17:19):
And I also like the fact that in a game
like that, it's just not creature, a habit where you
if somebody else is playing or performing better that night.
It's a compartment. It's a game to game. It's not, oh,
you know, we drafted him high, so he's got to
be on the floor in those No, you put the
people on the floor did in that particular moment or
that particular half of that particular game have elevated to

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play in that game. Now that maybe may go back
to your starting line the next day, but eventually what
happens is if that continues to happen, you're just gonna
move them up and drop somebody down. You're gonna put
him in. They're gonna take away minutes. Why else do
you have functional depth? That's because I mean, that's what
we heard about with this team this year. How deep
they are one of the deepest rosters in the NBA
is what we were being told about them. So Emai
Udoka said, Okay, well, if that's the way you feel

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and that's what we think we have, then let's play
it out and let's and let's go with it. And
that's why we've put the work.

Speaker 3 (02:18:10):
That's it, and that's what's been working for the Rockets,
as you know, not only with the Rockets, like I said,
got the Texans and the Cowboys coming up on Monday
Night as well. We've been getting into that conversation quite
a bit. But also too, I mean, hey, look, you
know this is something that we'll get to Garrett here
in just a second, but I mean it's a game

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that comes around every so often, and it's something else
too that I've talked about with Texan fans before that
I'm going to throw this out and I know that
some of you will react to it. We can get
to it as the show goes along. But stop, stop
with all of the Cowboys. Vitriol is fine.

Speaker 1 (02:18:47):
I get it. People live to hate the Cowboys. I
get all of that.

Speaker 3 (02:18:51):
But all of this, like continuous focus on the Cowboys
that Texan fans seem to have stop.

Speaker 1 (02:18:58):
Well, true, they're not they're not your concern Well, they're
not good enough for you to be concerned about them
Bingo this week. They are because there's your opponent. But
the fact of the matter is the whole world knows,
even if you don't watch football, that the Cowboys have
underachieved in January for years. They're they're not an overly
talented roster, and they're not good this year. It's not good.

Speaker 3 (02:19:19):
And it's not only that. I mean, I'm taking it
from a standpoint of people somebody is good.

Speaker 1 (02:19:23):
Oh no, not.

Speaker 2 (02:19:27):
Sean.

Speaker 1 (02:19:28):
You're not wrong, and exactly that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (02:19:30):
Is.

Speaker 3 (02:19:30):
It's easy to jump on the I hate the Cowboys train.
That's fine, but it's also too If you played them
more often, then I could understand it. You play them
once every four years, playing them in the preseason that
means nothing, but like you don't play them enough to
hate them this much. Is kind of my point that
I'm getting at, And I'm like, if take care of
your own we'll take of our own house here. Let
the Texans go do their thing, and then the Cowboys

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can sit back and watch this. I would much rather
your vitriol be against the Baltimore Ravens, against this city,
you know, against any body that you play a lot
more often as opposed to many compete.

Speaker 1 (02:20:04):
Absolutely, it makes sense.

Speaker 3 (02:20:05):
I mean, that's that's what you need to worry about
more than anything. I mean, this is almost kind of
a Texas and Texas a and m thing, and I
think in many ways and Longhorn fans are Aggie fans.
You could push back on this, I feel like that
the rivalry means more to A and M than it
does to Texas because for Texas, even now that they're
in the same conference, it can probably start to get

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that back and rekindle those feelings again.

Speaker 1 (02:20:28):
We're gonna get a chance to do that this time
around now because they finally playing each other again.

Speaker 3 (02:20:31):
But I mean, but for Texas fans, it was I
can't lose to ou. I don't want to lose to them,
But it means more to them than it means to me.

Speaker 1 (02:20:40):
I would agree with that. I would definitely agree with that.
But I think the Texas A and M thinks that
they're on the same and I'm actually headed to their
campus today to speak. But I actually I do. I
think that this state, as much as anything, needs that
rivalry back, and I can't wait for it. I'm for
it because A and M's defense is going to keep

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him in that game.

Speaker 3 (02:21:01):
Well it's also too, I mean, the SEC really, you know,
cranks up rivalries even more and that's going to be
part of it as well.

Speaker 1 (02:21:08):
So I'm so grateful they're playing again, but it really
am But.

Speaker 3 (02:21:11):
It's also too. I mean, you look at A and M.
Why they moved to the SEC. They finally wanted to
be able to have the upper hand on Texas to say, hey,
you know, you guys might have Austin, you might have
all of those different types of things, and you might
be you know, all the pretty girls and everything of that.
That's all fine and good, but how about us and
our checks that we're getting now from the SEC.

Speaker 1 (02:21:31):
That's why they did it. Two of the top nil
collective teams in all of college football too. They both
make a lot of revenue and money, both are obviously
in a tough conference. Both think that they're national championship
type teams. They just do. That's the attitude you have
to have. And now we get a chance. Instead of
talk about it, now we get to play it. Yeah.
I can't friggin wait.

Speaker 3 (02:21:50):
I'm looking forward to it too. Two weeks from now.
Can't get here fast enough, Garrett, see you right there.
Get to you on the other side. We'll continue the
Texans and at Cowboy conversation here as well. If you
want to weigh in, do so seven one three, two,
one two five seven ninety also to bottom of the hour.
Chris Gordy going to join us here on the Shawn
Salisbury Show. He's Sean, He's triple Y. I'm Dan Matthews

(02:22:11):
and for Brian Alma. Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (02:22:16):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 3 (02:22:27):
It is the Sean Salisbury Show. Dan Matthews in for
Brian Alima. Which one is this tripley? Who is this
right here?

Speaker 4 (02:22:35):
This is Boise State.

Speaker 1 (02:22:36):
Oh, the fighting Ashton Gentees. Okay, the surgency Boise State.

Speaker 4 (02:22:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:22:43):
I've spent time up there in the northwest, up in Boise,
blue turf, and it's not a bad town.

Speaker 1 (02:22:48):
Oh yes, Boise, Cordelaine, Idaho, ketchum Odo. If there's some
great places up there, you kidding me? And you know?

Speaker 3 (02:22:54):
And it's much more up there in the northwest of Idaho, Wyoming, Montana.
There's much more than the train station. The Duttons are
not real.

Speaker 1 (02:23:04):
That's what I like.

Speaker 3 (02:23:05):
That's what I loved last year when they had college
Game Day, I think it was that Montana was there,
right and one of the signs said Yellowstone is not
is not real. It's a TV show. Stopped moving here?

Speaker 1 (02:23:20):
What was it? Another one?

Speaker 3 (02:23:22):
I had another sign, but I got stolen by a
California real estate group.

Speaker 1 (02:23:27):
No shock there.

Speaker 3 (02:23:28):
Yeah, you've got you've got all the No, that's that's
that's part of it, and like I loved it too.
Second second Joe Rogan mentioned here is he talked about,
like those people who looks beautiful out there, I want
to I want to be a rancher, and his point
was ranching is hard work.

Speaker 1 (02:23:43):
You don't you don't understand like you may want to.
But trust me, the work that goes into what they're doing.
That's TV show, Like the real life Rip Wheeler does
not look like Rip Wheeler. The real life for his
ass is still out there from from the time the
sun comes up and before till the time it goes down,
getting themselves ready. That's the that's what's known as a

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working wretch. Not not not the one we pay for vacation.
Somebody put the saddle on it. We need to walk
walk around. Yeah, and look how awesome it is. That
that's a big difference. You want you want to run
cattle to day? Yeah, come come with how this goes? Yeah? No,
thanks too much, that's too hard. That's what That's why
a unique group is of full blown studs. I mean,
I'm talking about hard working that a cut on their

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hand that requires ten stitches, puts a band aid on. There.

Speaker 3 (02:24:32):
They're they're they're built different. Brother, it's built different. You know,
you don't stop working. That's that's what it is. You know,
you know what it is, right, Their.

Speaker 1 (02:24:40):
Work is your works, everything, your family.

Speaker 3 (02:24:43):
It's incredible, you know what it is like people like
they glamorize it. They look at all that That's that's
how the sausage is made. Oh yeah, that's that's what
that is is. It's it's all, hey, this looks so fun. Yeah,
you know we're outside, but you're.

Speaker 1 (02:24:56):
Really use Yeah, you're reaping the benefit of all that
they've sewed.

Speaker 4 (02:25:01):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:25:02):
And it's a TV show. But I'll tell you what,
that TV show sure makes you want to go out
there and live. It's easy. It's easy to make it
to glamorize, so doubt.

Speaker 3 (02:25:09):
Here's the beauty of Sunday Night and Garrett get to
you here in just second. But obviously, no Texans. I mean,
of course you'll want to watch Sunday Night football. I
get all that, But you get second episode of the
second part of this season of Yellowstone and then I'm
really excited about Landman. I am really excited about that
Billy Bob Thornton, John Hamm.

Speaker 1 (02:25:27):
I love myself from Bill Bob, dude, the best underrated,
A hundred percent underrated underrated actor. I love Bill Bob.

Speaker 3 (02:25:35):
So you know that he got the part for land
Man because he did one scene on eighteen eighty three
with Tim McGraw Faith Hill, and he impressed Taylor Sheridan
so much that he was like, Hey, I've got this project.
I really want you to be a part of it,
just because of that one seede.

Speaker 1 (02:25:54):
Do you remember when Taylor Sheridan was an actor in
B list movies?

Speaker 3 (02:25:57):
He was eleventh on the call sheet. I've read that story.

Speaker 1 (02:26:00):
I mean, and so b and I'll go back and
while you know, like it was a movie, it's not
Dout the Hills have Ice, but was kind of like
that where stuff was coming up from the ground, but
it wasn't that movie. And I'm like, that's Taylor Sheridan. Yeah.
And now he's cornered the market. No, he is. He is.
He is complete producer, director, I mean, he is a
writer everything. He has cornered the damn market on how

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to get this stuff done.

Speaker 3 (02:26:24):
Fascinating guy. I mean, he's got the four six's Ranch
up there.

Speaker 1 (02:26:27):
I mean, that's real. He really does. And he's also
done Heller high Water. He did a great movie, phenomenal movie. Bridges.
Oh yeah, yeah he is. He's killing it. Yeah, he's
got Bill Bob Thornton's which I'm all in, which by
the way too.

Speaker 3 (02:26:41):
You know, he talked about Ccario and he goes, that's
the mild version of what it's really like, and I
was like, I don't want to know much more than that,
because it's pretty intense in both of both of the
Cacario movies.

Speaker 1 (02:26:51):
Let me give you a little secret. I know someone
very close to me who's in the cargo theft business,
and that rolls into what they're talking about there because
they're crossover and where he spends his time in South America,
Central America and Mexico. Heads on on hoods of SUVs.

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I don't want to know to send messages. Yeah, that
ain't just out of peppermint. Okay, well you know we're
hanging from overpasses. Yeah that that that is as real
as it friggin gets. Well, that's that if your faint
of heart, probably stay away.

Speaker 3 (02:27:28):
I was going to say, yeah, I mean, the movies
can be as far, and the TV shows can be
as far as we want to go.

Speaker 1 (02:27:33):
But U no, Taylor Sheridan, I'll pass on.

Speaker 3 (02:27:37):
I was gonna say, I'll stick talking sports Garrett and
Cyprus wants away in here on Sports Talk seven ninety Garrett,
what's up, buddy?

Speaker 15 (02:27:44):
Hey, good morning and good Friday to both of you
guys on the dance. Sorry, I'm in the lobby here
my building. But uh, in today's NFL, it seems like
you really need a charismatic leader to be successful. And
so with the camp he's current coach, you know, I
just don't see that. And so I could definitely be

(02:28:04):
wrong on this because I don't have the B line
on the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (02:28:08):
In terms of week to week.

Speaker 15 (02:28:09):
But I've been very impressed of Aaron Glenn, and this
is over, you know, his whole season. I've seen several
Lions games and he seems to I don't want to
bring a Tomico comparison, because that's just you know, it's
apples and oranges. But it just seems like he has
a lot of charisma. And so with Jerry's timeline, if

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if McCarthy goes and you bring in someone like Aaron Glenn,
does that subscribe to his timeline for winning next year
per se or does he have to get another retread
that's been proven.

Speaker 4 (02:28:43):
In the NFL.

Speaker 15 (02:28:44):
So I just wanted to get your take on Aaron
Glenn and you guys have a great Friday, and thank
you for taking my call.

Speaker 1 (02:28:50):
Great to hear. It's always good to hear from your brother.
I will tell you this, I'm not one of those
retreads you know, just because you've coached and have success.
Belichick was a retread. Remember when he was a Cleveland
retread and turned out we did better in Cleveland than
people gave him credit. And his go go up and
look at his staff in Cleveland. How good that coaching staff,

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personnel staff was. It was phenomenal. But there was there
was a guy that wasn't coached on the college game
he did, and Kirk Ference was on that staff. They
were frigging loaded. And look at the amount of Crosby
his program, friggin loaded. So with that, uh, and I
know what, I know what Garrett's saying that retreads we
sometimes say it, we automatically means that well that when

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you say retread that they're not any good, they're good
coaches that are not coaching right now that have been coaching,
there's no question. But for me retread or new coach,
experienced or inexperience as a head coach. You've got a
let's say Aaron Glenn, who is going to get interviewed
for head coaching jobs, and rightfully so both Detroit's coordinators.
And I'm telling you what you're you're our guy, uh,

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Dan Campbell's gonna have to prepare for that. Look what
it did to Nick Siriannis team and look what the
on their third set of coordinators in two years.

Speaker 3 (02:30:03):
Guy coaching on the other sideline last night, Dan Quinn,
you found out how good of a coach he was
when Kyle Shanahan wasn't there.

Speaker 1 (02:30:09):
Yeah, and take a look at what take a look
at what happens when you go out and get a
guy like Cliff Kingsbury who knows offensive football and you
couple that with a hell of a quarterbacks. No, he didn't,
but I'm gonna tell you he's still hell he's still
pushing seventy percent completion. He didn't play his best, made
a few mistakes, but he looked like a rookie at times.
But I can tell you this, he's gonna be a
special player. Is that in Aaron Glenn's case. I don't

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need a retreat or I don't need somebody who's not
a former coach. I'm not going either way. I got
to hire the candidate gives me the best chance to
buy in man. And even if you bring Aaron Glenn
or Ben you know, or or Ben here the offensive coordinator,
or you bring in somebody else who's been a head coach,
or even Belichick, you have to arm them with talent.

(02:30:55):
So I don't know how where the Cowboys are going
to be in twenty twenty five. A new coach automatically, yeah, coach.
Not every coach comes in and does what Demiko's done, right.
It helped that you had Zach, I mean Dak. I
got Dak on it. It helps. He had the fact
you went out and got a great edge rusher and
Will Anderson. You have a phenomenal quarterback in CJ. Stroud,

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and then they bought in and you had some breaks
along the way. We played good. But you go to Dallas,
there's gonna be expectations unlike there was here in Houston
coming off with three win teams. So I don't care
if it's Aaron Glynn or whoever it might be. Is
your coach a retread or not. If you don't arm
them with talent, they're going to get fired. Well, the
whole charisma thing is too like the leadership is it now?
Just telling me?

Speaker 3 (02:31:36):
I mean like people point to that all the time.
That's all fine and good when you win, because when
you lose, all the raw ras stuff and all of
that and it's not raw row for me.

Speaker 1 (02:31:45):
Well, but where I'm.

Speaker 3 (02:31:46):
Going at with this is Dan Campbell is uniquely himself correct. Yes,
Demiko Ryans is uniquely himself correct.

Speaker 1 (02:31:52):
And they're not trying to be somebody. They're not trying
to be Belichick like Josh McDaniels was for a long
time Bingo.

Speaker 3 (02:31:57):
I mean Andy Reid, he is who he is. So
you get where I'm going with this, right, Yes, being
genuine is what makes those guys who they are. And
I don't know who Aaron Glynn is in terms of
a head coach. I see what he is as a DC.
He's a hell of a DC and he probably could
be a hell of a head coach. But the point
is is exactly what you're talking about right there. You
try to be somebody else you're going to lose. I mean,

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you're one hundred percent right. With Josh McDaniels. Two times
he didn't learn his lesson, and now you see where
he's at. Same deal too as well with Bill O'Brien
when he came in here trying to do the whole
restrictive with the media, all these things.

Speaker 1 (02:32:33):
Power that Bill Belichick had. You wanted that same power here,
and it took away from your what you did to
your best house coach. You're not him, right, That's just it.

Speaker 3 (02:32:40):
And you know, the funny thing is is one of
the guys we were talking about, Nick Saban, you know
what he would do with every single one of his
coaches is he would know, hey, they're going to take
the head coaching job. His wish to them was come
see me before you leave. And his parting message to
them every single time was do not try to be me.

Speaker 1 (02:32:56):
You will not be me right, and nobody will. There's
one of them, and he's real good at it. You'll
fall short. The thing about it, which goes to what
I'm talking about leadership, and I think with with the
genuine part of what and Garrett talking about leadership, I'm
a big believer, and I would rather hire a head
coach that has buy in transparency, which is be who
you are, and and the trust and the leadership that

(02:33:18):
I would a great ex's and o's head coach, because
if I'm just I'm gonna put myself in their shoes
if I'm getting interviewed for the Dallas Cowboys job or
any other head coaching job. I leadership. Buy in and
buy in doesn't mean everybody likes you. Buy in means
everybody respects you and is and is all in for
what you're what you're what you're putting down, I'm picking

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up sure. And then the trust that when I tell
you as a head coach, you're not running upstairs are
going to get me. You'll tell me one thing and
then go when you go upstairs to the executives, you're
telling them another. That's important. Players want to know that
not a player's coach. When I say players coach, is
negative connotation for me because it automatically means you're soft,
and that's not the case. There's a fine line. Like

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John Robin, who coach us God Rest his soul, was
a phenomenal at making players buy into whatever backups believe
it and everything he said, which to me is that
you want to know about a real team, talk to
the guy who's not planned. That'll tell you how they
feel about a head coach, even though you want to play.
If you still all in, that tells me something. So
all those things I for me if I was being
hired as an head coach. I like to think I

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bring leadership and some experience to understanding the football and
the player's part of it. But I can't be Andy
or I can't be Denny Green who was a coach
minor Brian Billick or Tom Moore or Bobby Ross. But
I can do it. But I can tell you this
as a player now, looking at that coach, I want
a guy who leads and will step out in front
of us and not tell us, but show us and
bring us along. I can hire great x's and o's

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guys as a head coach. Now I've shifted the one
thing every head coach that I've ever talked to or
coordinator now that's been a head coach back to a
coordinator or is still a head coach. Is the way
you know what they missed the most about being a
head coach the day to day in the meetings with
that position, with their quarterbacks. That's exactly right. So if
you can do that, listen, they all know x as

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and o's. Now, play callers are different than guys that
know x's and o's. You've got to get into a
rhythm of play calling is different than being a position coach.
But I do know this, that is that is universal
that if there's buy in, I can always find me
a great x as and o's. Guy leadership is harder
to find than a guy who knows how to call
a curl route.

Speaker 3 (02:35:22):
Well, it's either you have it or you don't. If
you don't, you try to make people believe you have it,
then it's not going to reach the conclusion that you
want to reach.

Speaker 1 (02:35:30):
So there we go.

Speaker 3 (02:35:32):
All right, Chris Gordy, you're gonna join us right here
on the Sean Salisbury Show. Get in a little bit
of college football, get into some more Texans Cowboys, do
all of that as we continue to roll along here
on Sports Talk seven ninety We're.

Speaker 2 (02:35:45):
The Sewn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 3 (02:35:46):
Continued Sean Salisbury Show, Dan Matthews in for Brian Lilima,

(02:36:17):
Triple E Emmanuel Elmore, Sean himself and also to this
guy Chris Gordy. We always know we can count on
Gordy to be able to get some college football talk going,
get in a little bit of Texans Cowboys as well, Gordy.
I mean, it's a little more painful for us to
hear the fight song this week. Triple A did play

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Alabama's earlier and I was like, ah, yeah, that happened.
But we trudge along, no doubt about it. So you know,
this weekend a little bit of a lesser slate in
terms of the you know, top tier games that are
out there, but of course got Georgia Tennessee this week,
and a few other games would playoff implications. That's the

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one that you're looking at saying, man, I can't wait
to be able to settle in and watch that one.

Speaker 6 (02:37:06):
Well, Georgia Tennessee, to mean, is the biggest one happening
this weekend. I mean, and you look at the series,
it's one of that george is dominated. They won seven
in a row in the series, they won twelve in
the last fourteen. But Josh Heipol, you know this is
year four there and this is the craziest stat to me.
Guys on what this How this game is going to
play out? Josh Pile. In four years of Tennessee, his

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team's averaged forty points a game, forty points a game.
In this series against Georgia they've played a total three times,
his teams have scored a total of forty points seventeen
thirteen to ten. Herby Smart just knows how to slow
down the Josh Stipel offense. Now, the good news for
Tennessee is this is their best defense they've had a

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really long time. Their top ten in about twelve different categories,
their top five in points allowed, their top five in
in yards allowed. And last time I checked, Carson Beck
is not playing very good football right now. Turn it
over at an incredible rate. So the more and more
I look at this game, guys, I think there's gonna
be a low scoring, kind of slobberknocker type game. But

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you know, all eyes are on Nico Yamaliaba, the Tennessee
quarterback who's been bagged up. There's some questions if he
can go. If he doesn't go, it's advantaged Georgia. But
on the flip side, if Tennessee were to win this
one man Kirby Smart, we go from talking dynasty. My god,
because they would a third championship in four years to
suddenly three losses and we're not even out of November yet,
Like it could really start to unravel for them.

Speaker 1 (02:38:31):
And answer some tough questions and out of the playoff
picture for the most part. With a third loss for
the most part, you think, but well be right, depending
on how the rest of the season ends it it
may be tough. And their quarterback has been unfortunately a
detriment in Carson Beck so far these last in some
of their losses. Gordy, if I put your feet to
the fire and said you got ten thousand dollars and

(02:38:52):
you have to bet it on one team because the
SEC has had some up and down, I know who
the highest ranked team is. But you you're an LSU guy.
You a lot of football, You're an SEC guy. If
you had to bet on one SEC team to win
the national championship, who's the best team in the SEC?

Speaker 6 (02:39:10):
Man a week ago, I would have said Georgia, And
then they went and lost in All Miss, So I
don't know. Look, Bama's playing great right now, but I
still think they have their flaws.

Speaker 4 (02:39:20):
You know.

Speaker 6 (02:39:20):
That's the problem is everybody's kind of got their wards.
And you know, as much as I want to sit
at Texas longhorns, they have not been tested.

Speaker 4 (02:39:27):
You know.

Speaker 6 (02:39:28):
I had you know, some some Texas people saying earlier
this week, you know, after they beat Florida, Oh man,
I thought you guys said the SEC was tough. Well, yeah,
you just played a Yale transfer third string quarterback for Florida.
It's not exactly like you've been tested. The crazy thing
is too Sean. There's there's still a scenario with with
all the two loss teams in the SEC that there

(02:39:48):
could still be I think it's a nine way tie
with with night teams with two losses for the SEC championship.
And if you look at the tie breakers, you go
head to head first. Well, that gets thrown out out
because not everybody's played everybody. So you know, you start
to get into l as you beat Old Miss and
the Ole Miss beat Georgia, and you know, Alabama beat Georgia,

(02:40:09):
and you know it's like you get in all these
head to heads and those are thrown out the window.
When you get down to the fourth tiebreaker scenario, it's
winning percentage of conference opponents. And if it were to
get to that, Texas would be dead last. Texas has
played the weakest opponents in the SEC. Now they can't
do anything about it. They got the schedule that was
had it to them.

Speaker 4 (02:40:29):
But that's what's.

Speaker 6 (02:40:29):
Pretty crazy is there could be a scenario where Texas
loses to A and M. A and M's got two losses,
Texas has two losses. Texas would be out of the
SEC championship game because they've played the weakest SEC schedule
among those teams.

Speaker 3 (02:40:41):
Do they get tested tomorrow against Arkansas?

Speaker 6 (02:40:45):
I think it's I think it's it's very intriessing, right
Bobby Petrino calling plays Taylor Green, dual threat quarterback. The
problem with Arkansas they had the great home win earlier
of the year against Tennessee, but their last two home
games have been blown out against against Ole Miss and LA.
So you know, this is gonna be really interesting. I
don't think it helps if it's an eleven AM kick.
I think if it was a night game, that would

(02:41:06):
definitely be advantage Arkansas. But keep in mind too, Tam
Pimman won this game a couple of years ago. In
Sark's first year of Texas, they played each other and
Arkansas blew them out, so obviously a much stronger, you know,
a Texas team now the rosters way more loaded. Texas
should win. But it wouldn't shock me if this one's close.

Speaker 1 (02:41:26):
Do you believe Oregon's the clear cut best team in America?

Speaker 6 (02:41:30):
I think so. I mean, it's it's it's so hard
to get a reach on it. You know, it's in
the NFL. It's easy, right because there's so much perry
and you you're gonna play. You can't avoid good teams.
You know, Indiana, as much hype as they're getting in
love they're getting, they haven't played the right team yet. Like,
I don't know how good Indiana is. There's somebody asked me,
are they legit? I don't know they've been tested. Again,

(02:41:50):
you can only play who's on your schedule. But yeah, look,
the Oregon went over Ohio State is one of the
best wins in the country. And you know the way
Dylan Gabriel's playing, the way that that that Anlin is
coaching those guys up. But it's hard for me not
to say Oregon isn't the best team.

Speaker 3 (02:42:05):
What's the most amount you think the SEC is going
to get into the final twelve.

Speaker 4 (02:42:10):
I think four.

Speaker 6 (02:42:11):
There are some people thinking that they can get five,
but some of the protections I've seen lately as three.
And if if that happens, keep in mind, Greg Sank
holds all the cards here the SEC. If they get
if they do not get the benefit of doubt and
they only get three teams into the playoff this year,
you're gonna start seeing Greg Sank politics and say, you
know what, maybe the college football Playoff isn't for us.

(02:42:33):
You know what, we might take our ball and go home,
and you know, we'll team up with the Big ten.
We'll just play each other every year. We'll create our
own pool of you know, of championships, and you know,
we'll play our own little bracket and we'll crown a
champion from that. It's a it's a threat because those
are the two biggest conferences out there, and they've already
been working together, you know, on the side away from everybody.

(02:42:54):
And what I hate about this college football Playoff guys
still the fact that we're not taking the twelve best
teams to be you know, the Playoff Committee comes out
every every week with their one through twenty five rankings.
The end of the year, we should just go one
through twelve. That's your playoff, you know group. But that's
not how they're gonna do it. They're gonna do the
thing where well, the four highest conference champions moved to
the front of the line. They become one, two, three, four,

(02:43:16):
And then don't forget, we got to reward the highest
non you know, Power five team they're in. You know,
last year it would have been Liberty. You know, It's
it's just it's I don't understand this whole thing, like
everybody gets a fair seat. Like, no, there are some
years where you might have six Big ten teams that
are in the top ten. There are some years you
might have five ACC teams that are in the top ten.

(02:43:37):
Whatever it is reward the best teams. Doing this whole
thing where everybody gets a fair chance. I think it's
just so silly.

Speaker 1 (02:43:42):
And you know what the irony of that is, Gordy,
is we had like now these conferences we no longer
like have like North and Southeast and West and something.
It's just the two best teams in the conference are
playing in the conference championship period and the twelve Why
wouldn't we do the same thing in just pick the
twelve best and let's go play. Let's go play, which

(02:44:03):
which leads me to this, who's the best team in
America that could win the national title? That we're not
talking about?

Speaker 6 (02:44:13):
Who's the best?

Speaker 1 (02:44:13):
I like a team out, like a team outside the
top ten, hovering around twelve or around number nine that
you say, you know what, they good enough to go
on a roll because you know it's going to be
hard to sustain it for guys that maybe don't have
as much depth as you got to play three or
four games. So what do you do? So the team
that we're not talking about that's hovering in the top fifteen,

(02:44:34):
that you say, damn good quarterback, they can go win it.
There's a chance or is that just a is that
just far fetched that if you're not and they may
not get in, but if there is one that could
get in? Is there anybody that could make a run
that would be considered a five seed if it was
the NC two A basketball tournament.

Speaker 6 (02:44:52):
Yeah, there's two that really intrigued me. One is is
boys you state And obviously we know how good Ashton
gent is. I mean, he's going to be a highmind
finalist than you know what seventeen hundred rushing yards already.
I mean, he's going to be a two thousand yard
rusher here before the season's over. And then the other
one is SMU. I mean for them to be sitting
at eight and one top of the ACC. You know,

(02:45:13):
they did lose to BYU back in Week three, but
you know they've been a couple of ranked teams in
Louisville and Pitt. Remember you know how good Pitt was,
and SMU just shut down down. It wasn't even close
frankly this past week. So they finished with Boston College, Virginia,
and Cow So they're not really going to be tested.

Speaker 4 (02:45:28):
But I mean they're.

Speaker 6 (02:45:28):
Gonna finish eleven and one and go play for an
ATC title. SMU is a dangerous team, man, because think
of this. If they get into the playoffs and they
have some success, they got some rich booster, Shawn, I mean,
they put your money where you're nil. That's the school
that could really do some damage in the transfer portal
this offseason and really start to build something.

Speaker 1 (02:45:49):
For anybody, Gordon that's not been to that part of
the country or that part of Dallas, that money area
where SMU sits in Lower Greenville and we're all the
Jerry Jones Is and all those big There is money.
I remember I mentioned about Arkansas earlier with the Tyson
foods on it. Right right here at SMU, there's plenty

(02:46:09):
of money walking across that campus. And it's and it's
generational money, brother, And you can spend it now. Oh yes,
it works. And we we know SMU spent it before.
It just wasn't on the legal side, right, and now
they can spend on the legal side. And if they
keep winning like this, they got enough money to go
stop a guy from going to Texas or LSU or
Southern cal by going to SMU because they can pay
him a little bit.

Speaker 3 (02:46:29):
Suddenly the dead and they're well coached, right Suddenly the
Pontiac Firebird is is the least of your worries in
that regard. The Pontiac Firebird doesn't doesn't leave the used
car lot anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:46:38):
There's bigger, there's bigger.

Speaker 6 (02:46:40):
Eric. Eric Dickerson would have a thirty Pontiac fire that's.

Speaker 3 (02:46:43):
Exactly with a bird on the hood too. That's thanks, Gordy, Gordy,
you're the best man. We'll catch up with your brother.

Speaker 1 (02:46:50):
Thanks. Thanks, I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (02:46:52):
Chris Gordy join us here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Talk a little bit of some college football, all right.

Speaker 1 (02:46:58):
Coming up next.

Speaker 3 (02:46:58):
Finally gonna get to the Gruden also too as well.
Before we get out of here, we got to talk
about the fight. We gotta talk Tyson and Jake Paul
will do that. If you want to get in with
one last second Texans conversation, you can do so seon
one three two, one two five seven ninety as we
wrap up this edition of the Shawn Salisbury Show.

Speaker 2 (02:47:16):
Coming up next, let this celebration start or Sewn Salisbury.
It's a Sewan Salisbury show.

Speaker 3 (02:47:33):
Yep, fighting along here on the Seawn Salisbury Show. Get
a lot of you out there yelling Texas fight. Get
a lot of you out there cheering for the Maroudam
White as they'll take on New Mexico State, I think
this weekend, so gotta have the paycheck games. The Aggies
will be home for that. Looks like they're gonna have

(02:47:53):
a little bit of a drone show too. I saw
some video of them testing it out outside of Kyle
Field the other night nights New Mexico State. The former
fighting Diego Pavia's Yeah Jerry Kill used to be there
too as wells Mexico, a.

Speaker 1 (02:48:09):
Very good football coach. Yeah, Lost CRUs. I always go
through Lost CRUs on my way back driving Arizona, and
I said, I'm headed to College Station to the Master's
department in there. This year's class. I'm going to speak
to them and talk for about an hour and hang
there and have some fun. And I look forward to
being with doctor Bennett and the group. So always an
honor to do that. So pop in there. So it
should be another good college football wicket. Yeah, looking forward

(02:48:31):
to it.

Speaker 3 (02:48:31):
It's got Saturday off, so gonna be camped out in
front of the TV, no doubt about that.

Speaker 1 (02:48:36):
All right.

Speaker 3 (02:48:36):
So last night Thursday Night Football, and yesterday as I
talked about to John Gruden getting hired on by barstool,
and look, I understand how people feel about barstool. That's
all fine and good, But in the ever changing landscape
that is our business, barstool matters. Like people get upset
about Pat McAfee and you know, get annoyed with them

(02:48:57):
more often than not. Sean, I say, those are people
who are jealous of what he has because he's fun,
he's entertaining, it's a good show and it's interesting to be.

Speaker 1 (02:49:07):
Able to listen to. Well.

Speaker 3 (02:49:08):
Last night, Gruden doing a live stream with the guys
of Barstool and it was the fourth and two that
the Commanders got stopped on when they could have kicked
a field goal and taken a lead, and Gruden talking
a little bit about that of saying, sometimes, yes, the
analytics guys that get in your ear and tell you, hey,
go for it.

Speaker 14 (02:49:27):
That's where the analytical guy goes, hey, hey, hey, hey, coach,
go for it.

Speaker 1 (02:49:31):
Right here, go for it. I'm like, okay, we go
for it.

Speaker 16 (02:49:36):
We get stuck, I go hey, aggressive, it's twelve to
ten man, we get the field goal.

Speaker 1 (02:49:46):
It's good to have that back. He's made for this
Barstool stuff. To let him cut it loose. And I
like the fact that he's not guarding against that show
the real that well you talk about transparency, wont to
New York. There it is and if you can that's
exactly how you can already picture him doing that on
the sideline, saying what the again, cussing him out upstairs.
That's and and I freaking love it. This business is
a That's why I like, honestly like what we do.

Speaker 3 (02:50:10):
The people. Oh, you know, I love them for their
hot takes. Gross. Gross, that's not a hot take. That's
just that, that's exactly. That's John telling you how pissed
off he is at the analytics site. And if you've
ever had coaching, and he's gonna have to hire an
analytics guy.

Speaker 1 (02:50:24):
So there you go, there you go. And by the way,
Tyson wins tonight, Okay, all right, Jake Paul respect and
he's really created something for you. Want to do this,
I'll show you what it really is. I just think
there's a difference fifty eight or not. You still can
hit that and move and he's got good feet. There's
a mentality and I think I don't think Tyson wantston
Man And I'm mad and angry. Mike Tyson may not

(02:50:44):
be good for anybody fifty eight years old or not.
Give me Tyson and I am watching.

Speaker 3 (02:50:48):
Yep, me too. It'll be fun. He's Sean Salisbury, tripole E,
Emmanuel Elmore. I'm Dan Matthews in.

Speaker 1 (02:50:54):
Frank is great.

Speaker 3 (02:50:57):
Thank you, Matt Thomas Ross coming your way next right here.
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