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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That's where we'll start the conversation here, Gordy, because you
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get the performance by Texas on Saturday, a game you
heard right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. You have
another one too, a noon kick on Saturday against San
Jose State. It will probably be a full building just
because it's the home opener. But after you come off
with that and you go out there, how hot it
is probably gonna have a lot of Texas fans that
are like, Noah, I'll.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Just stay back and watch this one.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Well, I think you're gonna get and I heard you
guys talking about it. Sean, you know, knows better than
than anybody. The problem is that arch Manning was facing
in his debut. But you know, the way the schedule
sets up, Texas gets to come back home, you get
San Jose State UTEP in Sam Houston the next three weeks,
then you get a bye, then you're at Florida, so
you got a month to get arch Manning ready. Look,
the defense is was fine. I didn't have a problem
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with what how the defense played. I thought the run
game was decent for Texas, so it's all leaned on
that even more and arches leg probably yeah, but I
just think arch. It was just it was a lot
of nerves. It was it sucks that that's the game
right out of the gates. And I think, you know,
I think teams are gonna look at this a little
bit more and go gosh, opening the season, these games
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are so fun week one. But look at Oklahoma. They
opened with Illinois State and now they get Michigan in
week two.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
And they're raving about John Mattiers performance.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
You're gonna see a much better prepared Oklahoma team this
week than if they played Michigan in Week one with
a new quarterback. So I just think that that's that's
the challenges. Look, that was a hostile environment, tough road environment,
the easy thing. And I said this last week, it's
easy to overreact. Oh Art sucks, Texas overrated, drop them down.
This team's got a lot of season left. They're gonna
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get better. Arts is gonna get better. He's not gonna
look like that every week.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Yeah, And the hardest thing to do is go back
the next day and be self critic It's hard to do,
but you got to.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
And he will listen.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
One thing you know that he will prepare because if
he lets this game define him, then then this festers
into they beat their next opponent by you know, seven
or ten points and they struggle. That defense is real.
They can run the football physical and a guy that
we all think, listen, you don't have that many experts
in football, from that Manning family to Steve Sarkizi into
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going out and recruiting and anybody that's watched him play
throughout the years, from your guy at Oarzaron all the
way through that you just automatical think, oh, the guy sucks.
The hype, But the hype didn't come from him. He
didn't stand up there and say, men, I want you
guys know the greats fall time. It's all been created
because the last name in his high school performance and
how he was raised right to be in this position.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
But there's still no excuses.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
He's got to play better and the mechanics under duress
are going to be a problem if they don't get fixed.
They have got to get better, and he's got to
play better under dress, and there's gonna be plenty more
games where he's going to get the opportunity to do that.
But we are such a knee jerk society on the position.
It ain't easy and I know how it is to
come out of your first performance. And I still say
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first start against a hostile opponent. Does that make sense
for arch Manning third start? Ever, I've told you this
before my first start. You come at it and it
was brutal and tough, and you had to fight and
scratch for every yard against a great Florida defense and
the best defensive player I saw in my life in
a game in Wilbur Marshall. But then we went on
a seven game run, boom boom, boom before I shredded money,
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so we became one of the hottest offense in the league.
And I could have played better in the first game.
I did some good things, but there's a you missed
that throw er, you stepped into a sack. You should
have got the rear of the ball quicker or held
on to it a little longer, and you learn those
valuable lessons. And I'd played as a freshman as a backup.
I played, I got snaps and played in games, but
it's still you still are really ready until you see
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the light switch go on in that and arch Maning
will face it. And I was as a five star.
Everybody was over the expectations, and we were on the road,
had two top ten teams or top fifteen teams, and
they got the best of us. We got them the
next year back at our Billy. But from that, guess
what you'll learn to see things a little quicker, Gordon
and he will.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
One other thing with Sarks said too, is that they
didn't even play any of their true freshmen and wide receivers,
all these four star and five star talent. He said,
we weren't going to test them against Ohio State Secondary.
We just weren't. These next three games against cupcakes at home,
they're gonna get those young freshmen Jamie French and Dylan
mccutche and Khalie Lockett.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
He's young talented freshmen.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Tell you what, they break out, they develop a little
chemistry with Arch, watch out because Arch's gonna get more comfortable.
They got stud talent all up and down that roster.
So yeah, it's a little bit overreaction, Jackson. I mean,
look at last year. A and M opens with Notre
Dame lose at home. What everybody say, ah, Elko not great?
Then what by down the stretch of the season, they're
they're leading the SEC. They went into the game against Texas. Literally,
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they win that game, They're going to Atlanta to you know,
play for an SEC titles and they.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Will always have good defense with him coaching.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, yes, LSU. Two years ago they lose the Open
of Florida State. Everybody Brian Kelly sucks. Jade Daniels overrated.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
By the end of the year, Jay Davis won the
Heisman and LSU won the SEC West and went and
played for a title. So don't overreact to what we
saw week one. It doesn't set it doesn't you know,
this isn't the bar all season in.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Six top ten teams get beat this week. I think
so s ten teams.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I believe of the highest paid coaches in college football guys, right.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
And you know who else sucks this?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Say?
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Clemson's awful? Right and Club Nick can't play you know, arches,
I mean they're not. I got news for you six
weeks from now, we'll be talking.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Now.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
You look at North Carolina. That may be a little
different because they don't quite have the talent. You may
see a lot of what you saw last night, but
with Texas and I got news for you. Come late November,
both Clemson and the University of Texas will be sitting
in a position to make the playoff. They just will,
and how their quarterback goes is going to be a
big part of it.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I would stay.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
If I'm a futures bet, I would suggest that Arch
and Club Nick are both going to play a lot better.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
If I say those thousand bucks right now and said
you could put it on, either Arch figures it out
or he doesn't, and he's a bust.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Figures it out. Yeah, and then without and I wouldn't
even think twice walking.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
To the table or the window.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Well, and you brought up a good point too, I mean,
because it's one of those that for the fans it
sucks to feel like, oh the hype was not met.
But then for him it's probably all right, take a
step back, a chance against some lesser opponents here, and then,
as you mentioned before, you get an sec play, he
get that week off to further prepare.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I think I think this goes back to what I
kind of said about Arch coming this seasonless. He's gonna
go through his ups and down. It's gonna be a
roller coaster. But this thing sets up for if he
were turns in twenty twenty six, he will be the
perennial preseason Heisman favorite, Texas will be the preseason favorite
to win the championship. All this stuff going into twenty
twenty six, just like we'll put the cart before the horse.
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We got to see more out of him first. Let
him develop one thing.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
I can guarantee you he won't approach next week the
way we're talking about it now. Oh Pa, he'll go
back to work and do his thing, because if he
thought like social media did, he just quit and walk
away and never play again. Okay, he was like, oh,
I guess my career is over. I had a game
against the reigning national champion in a defense it's pretty
friggin good, and Patricia had a great plan. He just
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misthrows that he'd normally make with one eye open. His
mechanics with his lower half weren't good, and his armslot
was not good. Now, he'll make some great throws, but
when you're playing against Michigan, LSU, Southern cal Ohio State,
the teams that run to the foot, but Notre Dame,
the windows are those windows aren't going to get any
bigger than he missed. And he knows that most of
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the time I'll make them. But you go back and
watch it, you're gonna see mechanics under duress were a problem.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
But he'll get it figured out.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
He understands study and the defense.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
They said the Patricia did a great job disguis and coverages,
having guys show Buetz drop out, you know, like all
those things that a young inexperienced quarterback battles with.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
And all those things that college defenses don't do a
lot of the over disguising. That's a Sunday thing. That's
why I told you Belichick's guys trying to get guys
do you do you start coaching the NFL like they're
thinking too much and can't react.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Patricia's guys were acting.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
It felt like he kept it simple enough for them
to understand, but complex enough to the You always wanted
to look complex to the quarterback, but simple for your
guys to execute. It's the same offense you want to
create this oh my gosh, when it's really you're just
doing your same thing from a different round. Was very
concervative his first half. I didn't think that.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I mean, look, you got I got to a certain point.
I'm like, take a shot. Take a shot if they
if you don't complete the pass. You don't complete it,
but take a show. If you can't show you can
stretch the field, then they're just gonna keep playing underneath.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
And you know when he got interviewed before the game
on the sidelines and I know it said he asked
me about arch and doing it for he goes, hey,
we'll go through this. He'll be fine, but he's prepared
for this and we're just gonna let it rip. That
was his last friend, and he did not let it rip.
For the first half. He played not to lose as
opposed to attack to win. It was almost a feeling
out situation, which I get Patricia the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
But I assure.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
You you will see a much more aggressive team under
Durest the next time they play a good team.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Did a little bit of the winners and losers earlier,
and we really focused on the Alabama loss to Florida
State definitely one of the losers. Probably gonna throw North
Carolina in there from last night. I mean, you know,
then again we got Skip Bayless and Colin Cowhard telling
us that you know, Bill Belichick's got them prime for
greatness there at UNC seems week is.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Weak sauce, Like you know, you just thought, Okay, they
can get the ten wins if they're somewhat competent.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
But god, the go Lopez kids from South Alabama.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
For as much as they hyped him, man he was
and maybe someone was on the play calling. Maybe is
there a way guys that get Matt Patricia to run
the defense for Ohio State on Saturdays and then later
in the afternoon you can go call offense for for
Belichick at at North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I mean he did both.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Yeah, yeah, now you know what I'll We're gonna stop
right at the defensive thing for Matt Patricia. We don't
want to let you go there because I assure you
the offense ain't gonna get any better if Matt's calling
it on offense. But he sure knows how to attack
a defense. And one thing that's not a hidden note.
Everybody knows this, but it was relevant this weekend. Is
it for a new offensive linemen in a very difficult
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conference is hard to replace and University of Texas, of
all the great players they have, no matter how good
the recruits are, that's a difficult replacement, and so they've
got to grow into it as well as witness Cordy
by the last play a three man rush you got
you can't let three men rush pressure. The right tackle
looked inside. He didn't even get a hand on the
outside edge rusher that forced the throw the catch, the
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tackle ball game over. Didn't get a chance to get
read through it because he hit the right tackle, didn't
put a hand on number eleven when he came off
the edge.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Not one.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
That's just simple. Four new guys trying to find continuity.
They're going to get a chance the next three weeks
to get it for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I mean, and you know, we talked a little bit
about LSU winning this weekend, and that was a game
you got to hear here on our family of stations.
But I mean, looks like Brian Kelly, you know, with
marshon Usmeyer back and that.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Massive win because in this twelve team playoff era, we
know now you can two losses is fine, and maybe
even three if you played a brutal schedule. But getting
that win in week one now for LSU opens up.
They can lose at all Miss, they could lose at Alibet.
You're fine if.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
They win one of those.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
You could lose at Oklahoma in the final week, you
could lose at home to A and M, which they
haven't done since Aggie's have been in the conference. But
you know, so it buys you two losses. So yeah,
it's they're in a great spot. Uh again, I think
Texas still we're gonna hear from them before this is
all said and done. Alabama thing is interesting because I
just think they were in an impossible spot. They went
into a hornet's nest of Florida State. And I said
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it last week. I said this that all new offensive line,
it's a new quarterback, it's a whole new receiver room.
That said is not to and ten Florida State. Yet,
people and ten Florida State, they suck. No, Mike Norvel
can coach. Two seasons ago he won double digit wins.
Guy can still coach. You didn't forget how to coach
one season. He's just had terrible players.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
DJU. Sorry, bro, you can't play Thomas Castellanos. He can play.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Yeah, we've seen the experiment since the game at Notre
Dame when he backed up Trevor Lawrence Uyungalle was a
just a guy at Oregon State. Everywhere he went, he
was just a guy. And by the time he got
to Florida State. Quite frankly, the name got him the job.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
He is not.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
He was not a good player. I don't mean it disrespectful,
good kid, I get it all. He just wasn't And
that was that. You look what the quarterback did the
year before, pretty damn good. That that position is so
precious and important, and you get a guy Mike Norvel
did not forget how to coach.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
They just weren't very good. Florida State ain't gonna go there.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
They're gonna They're gonna be a player in this and
the confidence they're gonna get from that first win is
gonna be huge. Yet, maybe Alabama's not as good as
we think. But the buye and the loafs and stuff
were brutal watching.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
It was brutal.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
It was.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I mean it was just a rough watch. I mean
we were talking about it. The one guy loafing on
the touchdown run. You got a couple of guys who
look like they're laughing as Florida State's kneeling down on
the ball. I mean, boy, Gordy, not good for Kaylin
Debora right now in terms of inspiring.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Confidence, Well, it's funny. I'm my Lockdown SEC show, we
kicked around the idea. Look, it was a joke a
few weeks ago, but it's one that could really be
a reality if they decide to buy out the boor
could Saban come back.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
For one more year. Yes, Look, it's all you're asking
him to do.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
You're not asking him to recruit and buy, pay n
I L and all that. That's what the gms are
for now. But if Saba came in just the light
of fire under some people's ass and get them to
play more inspired football, because that was embarrassing.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
On Saturday and Saturday Saturdays, I mean a college game day.
They'll be there for him when he wants to come back. Yeah,
there's no doubt. And I'm not sure there's no other
college job he's coming back for. I can see that.
You come back and boy, right now, you come in
there with your cape on, come back there to save Alabama.
Who are the best three teams in the country this
past week and you saw LSU obviously at the top
of the list.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, I think you got to give them credit figure
it out. Yes, you ain't saying they'll figure out. I
mean again they this you get two losses, so even
if they lose their two toughest games, Ohio State's gonna
win the other ten and they'll be right there. I
think Clemson still bounces. I still think Clemson's a good team.
I think Club Nick just got you know, one of
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their best receivers left the game early. Can't do anything
about that, and LS you just pin their ears back
in Miami.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Miami was impressive, Miami was good.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
But I just every time I give Crystal Ball credit,
he disappoints it. Right, there's some late game debacle, some
game where they just don't show up.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Somebody who's not supposed to beat them, their heavy favorites,
they get beat.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, I know the game again, another one. Don't count
them out.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
They were still They got a chance to regroup here,
young quarterbacks, young inexperienced quarterbacks learning on the job this
past week in hostile environments. I think there's a chance
car Ty Simpson all rebounding get better as the year.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Goes along, no doubt, no doubt, real quick.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Here the shows I was encouraging yesterday the bats six
for fifteen runners in scoring positions.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Out inning for Garcia, though at the home run balls
like that, I just wish if you could take that away, man,
it would have been.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
A perfect day. Yeah what a sec Huh?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I mean, but that was Sean you're talking, uh two
and a half years basically, I know two and a
half years down on the mound. And I saw an
article that his mom from Venezuela came up and she
she got to see him for the first time in
an MLB game, So I'm sure he had a little
bit extra.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I thought he was impressive. Yeah, I really did.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Strikes and keeping his stick, getting to have a chance,
and being able to overcome a bad hitting. I was
really impressed with this is gonna be This is a
huge get if this is who you're gonna get, because
he's only gonna get better as he sees it. But
that was I did not expect him to go six things,
and I did not expect that performance in his first time.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
But Dana Brown and this will make some tough decisions
for Dana Brown and Joe Spotted. They basically have the
next month. Here's here's what you got. The next month
you got you gotta find your best lineup. Yep, who's
my best hitters? Who couldn't get hot? When you're fighting
for a Division race. We're still got we still gotta
win AO West, like, still gotta punch our ticket to
the playoffs. But then three figure out who's gonna be
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my guys in the postseason?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Who's my arms I can rely on?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
And still Phil Toona Brown and Fromber at the top,
But who are gonna be other guys?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
And who is the starter or two that are gonna
end up giving me innings in the bullpen?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
And mccullors on Sunday, his first relief inning was great,
then the second inning it wasn't. And I said it
on the postgame show Sunday. I get he's a highly
paid guy, but you know what, what if I just
asked him give me one inning at the time.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Gordy right now, I don't think you can ask to
get more from him. Yeah, I really don't. And it's
I'm not even thinking about the money. I'm thinking about
the success of the team. I'll deal with the money
in the off season. Yeah, I'm talking about now if
give me an inning, because all that spin and stuff
he's got and then curveball when it's.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
On my.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Right, but it seems like it's rolling through. The longer
it goes through and right now, you may only get
an inning at him, but it'll be a key inning
if you can get it from him and get him
going right and.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Out the best stuff.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Agreed.