July 9, 2025 • 14 mins
Now reaching the midpoint of the season just 4 games away from the All-star break Sean and Dan take a moment with MLB Network's 3x All-star and former first basemen Sean Casey, assessing the leagues 2025 season thus far. Overlooking the league's progression since his retirement and judging new trends and rules implemented into today's game, Sean shares a few of his thoughts mixed with a few select favorites he has rolling into and coming out of the All-star break.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our number two here on a Western Wednesday, Sean Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven ninety and as promised, right now we
had right to the hotline we talk with MLB Networks
Sean Casey courtesy of Gorilla Glue and Sean want to
start it off with an unpleasant question because as a
guy who was also hurt himself in an exhibition, I
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got to know, how's the hammy?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Brother? It's not doing well? I had, you know, I
tore it off the bone. You know, it was a
crazy cut up playing for the Savannah Bonanza. You know,
obviously it was a fun time. They got a great
thing going there, but you never expected an exhibition to
like really get hurt. So I end up tearing. I
found out you have three hammies in each legs. So
I tore two of them off my right hamster, two
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of them off the bone. And I had I had.
I just had a hamstring replace a reattachment surgery like
twenty days ago. So I'm grinding a little bit, like
get a little bit better every day. And you know
it's funny. I've had six surgeries throughout my twelve year
big league career. This is probably the worst.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
One and it's post career shut.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
So to take us through how well, I don't even
remember how the hamstring happened to you. I knew it
was with the bananas, but was what did you go apo?
And were you trying to leg out a three bagger?
Explain the situation that pulled your hammy.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Brother, That's the story. I wish I could tell you
right now that I hit a rock at the gap
and I was so fast I was getting the third
and next thing you know, a sniper got me, you
know what I mean. But turns out I got a
four pitch, a four pitch walk on the On the
fourth pitch, it threw it at my feet and I
had to get out of the way. So it was
a pass ball. And in Savannah banana rules, if you
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walk a guy, they have to throw it down and
every player has to touch it so you can keep running.
So obviously I'm not there to run, you know, I mean, schorny,
I'm I'm, I'm, I'm. I was there to hit and
I didn't even think about running, which which you know,
I probably should have stretched a little more. But I
take the umpires like, hey, you got it, you gotta
run ball four. So I start running in the first
which is, you know, an interesting term. I was really
(02:02):
jogging slow walk probably, So I get the first and
the first base coaches like, go to in the crowd,
you know, I just got announced to fifty thousand people
in Cincinnati. Place is going crazy. Everyone's on their feet.
So the adrenaline hits me for the first time in years.
And the guys like, go too. So I'm like, oh, yeah,
I'm going too. I go to and my hamstring goes No,
(02:23):
you're not. You're not going too. As a matter of fact,
we're going to blow out for you.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Oh yeah, ReBs. Different post career than during, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
My man? Oh man? You know it's so funny. I
look at my life and I'm like, I just want
to walk again. I don't I don't need to get
back on the fielder. I just want to walk.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Right there, you go, different priorities, different life goals as
we move along in life, that's for sure. Again MLB Networks,
Sean Casey join us here on The Shawn Salisbury Show,
and we'll also talk with him about trying to repair
a broken back a little bit later on in our conversation.
But sean last couple of nights over at Tyking Park
(03:05):
haven't gone well. But I got to believe that you
and most of you all up in Sea Caucus are
pretty impressed with an eighteen game over five hundred Astros team.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I mean really impressed. And I think even for even
for Astro fans, you know, for you guys that look
that are looking at you know, the team. When they
got rid of Kyle Tucker, you got rid of Presley,
they got rid of Bregman. You know, it's like, man,
what are the Astros doing? Are they rebuilding all?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You know?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
And then all of a sudden you look at this
year and you know, Framber Valdez is doing is what
he's doing. Hunter Brown has gone to a totally another level.
It's one of the top five pitchers in baseball. You could,
you know, make an argument with that, with how good
he's been the bullpen with Hater and and you know,
Brave and all those guys has been so lights out.
And then you know the emergence of Cam Smith of
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what he's done, you know, makes the team out of
spring training and hitting almost three hundred, starting to hit
for power. Understand the legal little bit. Jeremy Pania all
of a sudden goes this superstar shortstop, you know level,
and you know, guys are just really playing great baseball.
So I know, personally, you know, looking at the landscape
for the Asters this year, I would not have thought
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that right now they would be eighteen games above five
hundred and one of the best games teams in baseball.
But obviously Dana Brown thought differently and he was right.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yeah, Sean Casey joins us, say, Sean, I'm going to
get into your mind about the current the players when
you played and now I've said on the show the
last couple of days as you head into the All
Star wik I know in my NFL career, heading into
a bye week the week before, when you know you
had a week off, you got to get out of
vacation mode.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
It's still business.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
And here with the All Star Game coming, the Astros
just sweep the Dodgers. It would be easy in human
nature to get into with six games to go, is
to kind of get a little casual, not like is
he just casual? Like all the All Star breaks coming
to get in vacation mode and then you go one
in five and the GAP's closed now to four games.
So for me in your career, is it real and
(05:03):
is it hard to guard against that vacation mode when
the All Star breaking rest is right around the corner?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Shanni, It's a great question because you know you know this.
You know the day, especially they League Baseball, you play
one hundred and sixty two games, And I think this
is where it's a different animal mentally than in any
other sport. Is that like and you start to see
that All Star break, You're like, man, I could go
for a couple of days off, but I think the
biggest thing about being a big leaguer. And I remember
(05:29):
Billy Dorn, who's a long time astro back in the day,
was my coach in Cincinnati. He said, hey, listen, Case,
go underwater for six months. He goes, and I'll pull
you up and I'll let you know when the season's over.
He's like, but don't come up for air and stay
you're tired, don't come up for air and say you
need a day off. Don't come up come up for
air and say you're struggling. Just stay down there, stay
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with your routine, stay with your process, stay with your mentality,
and when a break shows up, I'll let you know.
And I feel like that's the same thing with the
All Star break. It's like, don't even look the break,
you know, keep your head down until somebody says, hey, man,
they All Star break here, breaks here, and then when
you come out of it, you know, back underwater. So
that's my thought process. That's what I used to always think, like,
I don't even want to know about it. Just keep grinding,
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to keep going the way with me they made with mentality,
and you know, when the break shows up, it shows up.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Sean, you mentioned Cam Smith and what he's been able
to do so far this season. From what you've seen
of him, what's impressed you the most about his game,
either offensively or defensively.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Well, offensively, I love how he goes the other way.
And I was reading something that was saying, you know,
my son played in the Cape Cod League a couple
of years ago, and I remember they were playing I
think it was Wareham. It was Orleans versus Wareham up
there in the Cape and this kid was hit a
bomb left center and I remember grabbing the program out
because something was a little different. I look at I'm like, man,
Cam Smith, Florida State. Interesting so I kind of followed
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him from that day on and I've been very interested
in his career. And I remember reading an article was
saying that once he started to take his batting practic
this and go the other way, his hitting really kind
of opened up for him. And I'm a big believer
in that if you can go the other way with authority,
you know, the game really opens up for you, especially
the pole side on the power opens up for you.
And that's one thing with Cam Smith when when I
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watched him, even when he got even when he when
he broke camp this year and in the beginning of
the season, he would take those singles the right field,
singles the right field, and I really believe as you
watched him evolve, he's starting to get to the power
on the pulse side too, and it's all opening up
because he's a really good hitter first that mentality of hey,
let's be a good hitter first, let's make sure that
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we can let the ball travel and drive the ball
the other way. Because in the big league, Sean, the
biggest thing about these guys that are on the mound
the best in the world, like the Savage, is the
guy the one percenters these guys. Their ball moves so
late that last three to five feet you're seeing cut
right and sink until and all that stuff. And I
think to be a young kid and to be doing
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so well, you have to be letting the ball travel
at a different level. And I think Cam Smith's doing that.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Sean, let me make you commissioner for a day. You know,
you've seen the old school part of it. I'm a
guy who has some old school philosophies, but I like
some new school stuff. But I want to make sure
you the commissioner for a day. Give me one thing
you're changing, and maybe a thing that bothers you about
the current status. I don't care if it's a player,
if it's the rules, whatever. Commissioner, change something and tell
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me what your biggest gripe about baseball is this day
and age.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
That's a that's a that's a that's an interesting question.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I think the game's in a healthy place, you know.
I think there's a lot of good young players. I
like the rules that they you know, I like the clock.
You know, that's one thing I really do like. You know,
I think that's uh, you know, that's that's definitely changed
the game for the better, you know, for for for everybody.
I like, you know, I like what they've done with
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the running. I think there's more action there too, you know.
I guess I think about the rules and I think,
how can we still you know, find a way to
continue to you know, create offense in the game. I
guess I look a little bit at some of the
averages or where where we're at as far as like
putting the ball in play. You know, I don't know
if there's if there's something there too. I think I
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like the the challenge system that they that they put
into place in spring training, with the with the with
the robo ms, not robo amps, but you know, I
mean challenge system on a ball strike. I think I'd
be interested to see because I think a lot of times,
you know, you're seeing a lot of these a lot
of umpires are so quick now to throw out manager
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for arguing balls and strikes, and you know, and there's
a little more tension I think than ever as far
as that goes. I think that would help eliminate some
of that stuff if guys could challenge either way. So
you know, that's one of the things that that that
I think would be a good thing for baseball. And
I think if you look at the All Star Game
this year, you know, you're looking at a lot of
the good young stars that are here, Elie Dela Cruz
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and and uh pe Crow Arms and you know, just
a lot of good young faces that are in the
game that are kind of leading the way. And you know,
I just think I think the games in a really
healthy place.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
You've hit well, you've been an All Star, You've watched
guys hit well. Do we have too much emphasis on
on launch angle and home run?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Are you okay with that as well? Would you like
to see more small ball?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
You know what, I think small balls starting to come
back a little bit, as far as you know, there's
more bunting being back because listen runs at a premium.
And I don't love the exit I'm just you know,
I don't love the exit vlo, especially for kids that
you know when I just talked about Cam Smith. If
you want to get good exit below exit vlo's getting
the ball out front, you know a little bit, but
you don't get the ball. But if you try to
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live out front against good pitching, you're just gonna get
eaten up. You're gonna get taken apart. So it's like
a catch twenty two. So you really got to learn
to let the ball travel so that you can go
the other way so that when you catch a slider.
I think you do your damage on sliders, hanging change ups,
breaking balls that are up that you catch a little
bit out front with a good bat pass, and those
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are the ones you're clipping, you know, in the air
with a nice launch angle. And those are the ones
that are on you know, MLB network, and you go, oh,
look at these guys hitting homers. Yeah, but the guys
thought process is, let me try to get a ball.
I could drive them back up the middle the other way,
and I'm clipping stuff out front. That's what I think.
So the exit velocity stuff, man, it can be dangerous
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for young kids that are trying to just drop and
launch because that's not what the good hitters are doing.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Three time All Star MLB Network Analyst and also two
as I mentioned, Sean, you're helping repair broken bats. Tell
us about what you guys over at Gorilla Glue are doing.
It is a gorilla groove fixing your hammy.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
That's what we want to know first and foremost I.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Was thinking the same thing. I'm like, man, I Grilla
Clue could have put my hammer together before I started
running from the bananas that have been in business.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Oh man, well you know it's been a fun project
with Gorilla Glue, you know we uh it was. It
was so funny because I did this commercial for Girla
Group at Great American Ballpark like a couple of weeks
before I tore the hammy with the bananas. But it
was a really cool thing that what they did was
they took these big league bats and that were broken,
and they me and they were like, all right, let's
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see if these, you know, stand the test of the
Grilla Group product of putting it back together and see
how tough and durable and strong it is. And Sean,
it was unbelievable, dude. It really like I was hitting
with these bats and I was even like, oh man,
I hope this holds up. And it did. I I
was hitting rounds with balls off a pitching machine.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
You know that the Grilla Group Gorilla was feeding into
me and I and I was legitimately hitting with these
bats that Girl Group put back together. So you know,
at the end of the day, it was just it's
just pretty incredible. You know, you know that they're they're
the official sponsor of broken bats, and it really does work,
and and and I would and I got a chance
to see it first hands. It was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Well, you know, as a baseball dad, bats are expensive,
you want to try to be able to keep them
together as much as possible.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Hey, hey, we appreciate the time.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Man. Best of luck with the HAMI recovery and conversation.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Come join us again. You're always welcome on here. Brother,
We love having you.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I appreciate seany. I want to ask you real quick,
what was the exhibition? What was your injury?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
What happened well for me?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Well, I've been through four knee injuries, a knee replacement,
two shoulders, a broken nose. Mine mine was the first
one I ever had, first time I ever carried a
football ever, because I played baseball and basketball in junior high.
I got the high school first carry ever compound fracture
in my middle finger. I needed Gorilla gul before Gorilla
goose started. Brother, trust me, and now I'm just holding
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it together.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
There you go. You know how I fix that now? Set,
You know how I fix that now?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
But when somebody invites you to like to play in
a softball game or something, it's like, hmm, extra beer beforehand,
or let me manage and coach third base. Right there
you go, Well, appreciate it so great, great.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I fell great stuff, brother, good luck, man, Joey. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Again, what a great person. He's always had a great personality,
for sure. He could rank man. Three time All Star,
three time All Star. I could use about two hours
talking with him because he's got a great feel for
what's going and he echoed exactly what we've talked about.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Dan not a soul. Even professional baseball players that
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Are going on television and telling us about it, that
this team would be eighteen games over five hundred with
all that went on.
Our number two here on a Western Wednesday, Sean Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven ninety and as promised, right now we
had right to the hotline we talk with MLB Networks
Sean Casey courtesy of Gorilla Glue and Sean want to
start it off with an unpleasant question because as a
guy who was also hurt himself in an exhibition, I
(00:22):
got to know, how's the hammy?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Brother? It's not doing well? I had, you know, I
tore it off the bone. You know, it was a
crazy cut up playing for the Savannah Bonanza. You know,
obviously it was a fun time. They got a great
thing going there, but you never expected an exhibition to
like really get hurt. So I end up tearing. I
found out you have three hammies in each legs. So
I tore two of them off my right hamster, two
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of them off the bone. And I had I had.
I just had a hamstring replace a reattachment surgery like
twenty days ago. So I'm grinding a little bit, like
get a little bit better every day. And you know
it's funny. I've had six surgeries throughout my twelve year
big league career. This is probably the worst.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
One and it's post career shut.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
So to take us through how well, I don't even
remember how the hamstring happened to you. I knew it
was with the bananas, but was what did you go apo?
And were you trying to leg out a three bagger?
Explain the situation that pulled your hammy.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Brother, That's the story. I wish I could tell you
right now that I hit a rock at the gap
and I was so fast I was getting the third
and next thing you know, a sniper got me, you
know what I mean. But turns out I got a
four pitch, a four pitch walk on the On the
fourth pitch, it threw it at my feet and I
had to get out of the way. So it was
a pass ball. And in Savannah banana rules, if you
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walk a guy, they have to throw it down and
every player has to touch it so you can keep running.
So obviously I'm not there to run, you know, I mean, schorny,
I'm I'm, I'm, I'm. I was there to hit and
I didn't even think about running, which which you know,
I probably should have stretched a little more. But I
take the umpires like, hey, you got it, you gotta
run ball four. So I start running in the first
which is, you know, an interesting term. I was really
(02:02):
jogging slow walk probably, So I get the first and
the first base coaches like, go to in the crowd,
you know, I just got announced to fifty thousand people
in Cincinnati. Place is going crazy. Everyone's on their feet.
So the adrenaline hits me for the first time in years.
And the guys like, go too. So I'm like, oh, yeah,
I'm going too. I go to and my hamstring goes No,
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you're not. You're not going too. As a matter of fact,
we're going to blow out for you.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Oh yeah, ReBs. Different post career than during, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
My man? Oh man? You know it's so funny. I
look at my life and I'm like, I just want
to walk again. I don't I don't need to get
back on the fielder. I just want to walk.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Right there, you go, different priorities, different life goals as
we move along in life, that's for sure. Again MLB Networks,
Sean Casey join us here on The Shawn Salisbury Show,
and we'll also talk with him about trying to repair
a broken back a little bit later on in our conversation.
But sean last couple of nights over at Tyking Park
(03:05):
haven't gone well. But I got to believe that you
and most of you all up in Sea Caucus are
pretty impressed with an eighteen game over five hundred Astros team.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I mean really impressed. And I think even for even
for Astro fans, you know, for you guys that look
that are looking at you know, the team. When they
got rid of Kyle Tucker, you got rid of Presley,
they got rid of Bregman. You know, it's like, man,
what are the Astros doing? Are they rebuilding all?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You know?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
And then all of a sudden you look at this
year and you know, Framber Valdez is doing is what
he's doing. Hunter Brown has gone to a totally another level.
It's one of the top five pitchers in baseball. You could,
you know, make an argument with that, with how good
he's been the bullpen with Hater and and you know,
Brave and all those guys has been so lights out.
And then you know the emergence of Cam Smith of
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what he's done, you know, makes the team out of
spring training and hitting almost three hundred, starting to hit
for power. Understand the legal little bit. Jeremy Pania all
of a sudden goes this superstar shortstop, you know level,
and you know, guys are just really playing great baseball.
So I know, personally, you know, looking at the landscape
for the Asters this year, I would not have thought
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that right now they would be eighteen games above five
hundred and one of the best games teams in baseball.
But obviously Dana Brown thought differently and he was right.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yeah, Sean Casey joins us, say, Sean, I'm going to
get into your mind about the current the players when
you played and now I've said on the show the
last couple of days as you head into the All
Star wik I know in my NFL career, heading into
a bye week the week before, when you know you
had a week off, you got to get out of
vacation mode.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
It's still business.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
And here with the All Star Game coming, the Astros
just sweep the Dodgers. It would be easy in human
nature to get into with six games to go, is
to kind of get a little casual, not like is
he just casual? Like all the All Star breaks coming
to get in vacation mode and then you go one
in five and the GAP's closed now to four games.
So for me in your career, is it real and
(05:03):
is it hard to guard against that vacation mode when
the All Star breaking rest is right around the corner?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Shanni, It's a great question because you know you know this.
You know the day, especially they League Baseball, you play
one hundred and sixty two games, And I think this
is where it's a different animal mentally than in any
other sport. Is that like and you start to see
that All Star break, You're like, man, I could go
for a couple of days off, but I think the
biggest thing about being a big leaguer. And I remember
(05:29):
Billy Dorn, who's a long time astro back in the day,
was my coach in Cincinnati. He said, hey, listen, Case,
go underwater for six months. He goes, and I'll pull
you up and I'll let you know when the season's over.
He's like, but don't come up for air and stay
you're tired, don't come up for air and say you
need a day off. Don't come up come up for
air and say you're struggling. Just stay down there, stay
(05:50):
with your routine, stay with your process, stay with your mentality,
and when a break shows up, I'll let you know.
And I feel like that's the same thing with the
All Star break. It's like, don't even look the break,
you know, keep your head down until somebody says, hey, man,
they All Star break here, breaks here, and then when
you come out of it, you know, back underwater. So
that's my thought process. That's what I used to always think, like,
I don't even want to know about it. Just keep grinding,
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to keep going the way with me they made with mentality,
and you know, when the break shows up, it shows up.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Sean, you mentioned Cam Smith and what he's been able
to do so far this season. From what you've seen
of him, what's impressed you the most about his game,
either offensively or defensively.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Well, offensively, I love how he goes the other way.
And I was reading something that was saying, you know,
my son played in the Cape Cod League a couple
of years ago, and I remember they were playing I
think it was Wareham. It was Orleans versus Wareham up
there in the Cape and this kid was hit a
bomb left center and I remember grabbing the program out
because something was a little different. I look at I'm like, man,
Cam Smith, Florida State. Interesting so I kind of followed
(06:51):
him from that day on and I've been very interested
in his career. And I remember reading an article was
saying that once he started to take his batting practic
this and go the other way, his hitting really kind
of opened up for him. And I'm a big believer
in that if you can go the other way with authority,
you know, the game really opens up for you, especially
the pole side on the power opens up for you.
And that's one thing with Cam Smith when when I
(07:13):
watched him, even when he got even when he when
he broke camp this year and in the beginning of
the season, he would take those singles the right field,
singles the right field, and I really believe as you
watched him evolve, he's starting to get to the power
on the pulse side too, and it's all opening up
because he's a really good hitter first that mentality of hey,
let's be a good hitter first, let's make sure that
(07:34):
we can let the ball travel and drive the ball
the other way. Because in the big league, Sean, the
biggest thing about these guys that are on the mound
the best in the world, like the Savage, is the
guy the one percenters these guys. Their ball moves so
late that last three to five feet you're seeing cut
right and sink until and all that stuff. And I
think to be a young kid and to be doing
(07:57):
so well, you have to be letting the ball travel
at a different level. And I think Cam Smith's doing that.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Sean, let me make you commissioner for a day. You know,
you've seen the old school part of it. I'm a
guy who has some old school philosophies, but I like
some new school stuff. But I want to make sure
you the commissioner for a day. Give me one thing
you're changing, and maybe a thing that bothers you about
the current status. I don't care if it's a player,
if it's the rules, whatever. Commissioner, change something and tell
(08:22):
me what your biggest gripe about baseball is this day
and age.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
That's a that's a that's a that's an interesting question.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I think the game's in a healthy place, you know.
I think there's a lot of good young players. I
like the rules that they you know, I like the clock.
You know, that's one thing I really do like. You know,
I think that's uh, you know, that's that's definitely changed
the game for the better, you know, for for for everybody.
I like, you know, I like what they've done with
(08:50):
the running. I think there's more action there too, you know.
I guess I think about the rules and I think,
how can we still you know, find a way to
continue to you know, create offense in the game. I
guess I look a little bit at some of the
averages or where where we're at as far as like
putting the ball in play. You know, I don't know
if there's if there's something there too. I think I
(09:14):
like the the challenge system that they that they put
into place in spring training, with the with the with
the robo ms, not robo amps, but you know, I
mean challenge system on a ball strike. I think I'd
be interested to see because I think a lot of times,
you know, you're seeing a lot of these a lot
of umpires are so quick now to throw out manager
(09:35):
for arguing balls and strikes, and you know, and there's
a little more tension I think than ever as far
as that goes. I think that would help eliminate some
of that stuff if guys could challenge either way. So
you know, that's one of the things that that that
I think would be a good thing for baseball. And
I think if you look at the All Star Game
this year, you know, you're looking at a lot of
the good young stars that are here, Elie Dela Cruz
(09:58):
and and uh pe Crow Arms and you know, just
a lot of good young faces that are in the
game that are kind of leading the way. And you know,
I just think I think the games in a really
healthy place.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
You've hit well, you've been an All Star, You've watched
guys hit well. Do we have too much emphasis on
on launch angle and home run?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Are you okay with that as well? Would you like
to see more small ball?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
You know what, I think small balls starting to come
back a little bit, as far as you know, there's
more bunting being back because listen runs at a premium.
And I don't love the exit I'm just you know,
I don't love the exit vlo, especially for kids that
you know when I just talked about Cam Smith. If
you want to get good exit below exit vlo's getting
the ball out front, you know a little bit, but
you don't get the ball. But if you try to
(10:42):
live out front against good pitching, you're just gonna get
eaten up. You're gonna get taken apart. So it's like
a catch twenty two. So you really got to learn
to let the ball travel so that you can go
the other way so that when you catch a slider.
I think you do your damage on sliders, hanging change ups,
breaking balls that are up that you catch a little
bit out front with a good bat pass, and those
(11:03):
are the ones you're clipping, you know, in the air
with a nice launch angle. And those are the ones
that are on you know, MLB network, and you go, oh,
look at these guys hitting homers. Yeah, but the guys
thought process is, let me try to get a ball.
I could drive them back up the middle the other way,
and I'm clipping stuff out front. That's what I think.
So the exit velocity stuff, man, it can be dangerous
(11:23):
for young kids that are trying to just drop and
launch because that's not what the good hitters are doing.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Three time All Star MLB Network Analyst and also two
as I mentioned, Sean, you're helping repair broken bats. Tell
us about what you guys over at Gorilla Glue are doing.
It is a gorilla groove fixing your hammy.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
That's what we want to know first and foremost I.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Was thinking the same thing. I'm like, man, I Grilla
Clue could have put my hammer together before I started
running from the bananas that have been in business.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Oh man, well you know it's been a fun project
with Gorilla Glue, you know we uh it was. It
was so funny because I did this commercial for Girla
Group at Great American Ballpark like a couple of weeks
before I tore the hammy with the bananas. But it
was a really cool thing that what they did was
they took these big league bats and that were broken,
and they me and they were like, all right, let's
(12:16):
see if these, you know, stand the test of the
Grilla Group product of putting it back together and see
how tough and durable and strong it is. And Sean,
it was unbelievable, dude. It really like I was hitting
with these bats and I was even like, oh man,
I hope this holds up. And it did. I I
was hitting rounds with balls off a pitching machine.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
You know that the Grilla Group Gorilla was feeding into
me and I and I was legitimately hitting with these
bats that Girl Group put back together. So you know,
at the end of the day, it was just it's
just pretty incredible. You know, you know that they're they're
the official sponsor of broken bats, and it really does work,
and and and I would and I got a chance
to see it first hands. It was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Well, you know, as a baseball dad, bats are expensive,
you want to try to be able to keep them
together as much as possible.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Hey, hey, we appreciate the time.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Man. Best of luck with the HAMI recovery and conversation.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Come join us again. You're always welcome on here. Brother,
We love having you.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I appreciate seany. I want to ask you real quick,
what was the exhibition? What was your injury?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
What happened well for me?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Well, I've been through four knee injuries, a knee replacement,
two shoulders, a broken nose. Mine mine was the first
one I ever had, first time I ever carried a
football ever, because I played baseball and basketball in junior high.
I got the high school first carry ever compound fracture
in my middle finger. I needed Gorilla gul before Gorilla
goose started. Brother, trust me, and now I'm just holding
(13:38):
it together.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
There you go. You know how I fix that now? Set,
You know how I fix that now?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
But when somebody invites you to like to play in
a softball game or something, it's like, hmm, extra beer beforehand,
or let me manage and coach third base. Right there
you go, Well, appreciate it so great, great.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I fell great stuff, brother, good luck, man, Joey. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Again, what a great person. He's always had a great personality,
for sure. He could rank man. Three time All Star,
three time All Star. I could use about two hours
talking with him because he's got a great feel for
what's going and he echoed exactly what we've talked about.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Dan not a soul. Even professional baseball players that
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Are going on television and telling us about it, that
this team would be eighteen games over five hundred with
all that went on.
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