February 25, 2025 • 15 mins
Looking back on the 2024 MLB season, an interesting note has been made about the entire league which seems to have raised a few eyebrows. There were only a total of 28 complete games in the 2024 MLB season making that a record low since the year 1975. Referencing former Astros pitcher Nolan Ryan and how he finished his career with a total of 222 complete games 38 of which were with the Astros, Sean and Brian pose there may be a development issue regarding the pitchers around the league following majority of frontline ace starters, can only pitch half a game. Taking a moment with callers and aiming to identify what's been the trending issue, the guys share a few ideas on what may has caused such a drop in this specific category in baseball and how does the league go about fixing the issue.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Twenty eight complete games last year in Major League Baseball.
Not not a lot man, when you look at how
many games are played. Richard once again on this on
the phone lines, Richard, what's up.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey, good morning, Fallas. Are you ready for a year
old man? Yells at clad Cole in the morning. I'm
not that old, but this is really gonna make me
sound like I am talking about complete games. First thing that, well,
a couple first things that come to mind. Nolan Ryan.
Wasn't that a playoff game where he threw two hundred
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and eleven pitches?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Two and eleven.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
I mean, let me double check that Olan Ryan has
had starts where he came back and threw two hundred
and twenty or something pitches and then came back the
next start, like on a three or four days rest,
and threw over one hundred pitches.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
He's he's he's double yes.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
The one I was thinking, I think it was a
playoff game, but Nolan threw over two hundred pitches. The
other thing back from my childhood, which was not two
too long ago, but my old Oiols team that had
four twenty game winners. Okay, so and that was just
with the four man rotation or Weaver just said, I'm
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having four starters and I'm gonna roll with it. So
with this four man rotation, all four guys won more
than twenty games. And the stat line that'll make your
eyes pop out is how many complete games those guys threw.
Of those four starters that had twenty or more wins,
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the fewest complete games any of them threw was eighteen.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, and I know you're gonna get the younger. Younger
people are gonna say, well, you know, the games change
and the way, no, the way we treat them and
soft sell them and baby them is exactly what we're doing.
It's inexcusable to have twenty eight complete games when the
guys and that may not be just the play, the player,
the ownership, the front office, the manager. Baby, oh he
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hit one hundred pitches, but his velocity is still the same.
He's still getting people out. Well, we don't want to
wear him out. Oh, because twenty starts man alive, twenty
two stars. Man, what a grind. I just listen. It's
such as it's it's quite frankly borderline pathetic. Now that
they're not talented. It's a lot of reasons why they
don't do it. I know the game's changed and we
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want him to go, but we are literally crowning people
heroes that give you five and two thirds and.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
They're going good.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Now.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Maybe the manager, maybe the like I said, the front
office that pulls him out. But the celebrating twenty eight
complete games is an embarrassment. And I don't know if
that's a managers being too protective or what have you,
but enough it's when you see it on paper, it's like,
this is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
And I'm gonna go back to my old man rants here.
But I think Tim Palmer led that fair Man's staff.
I think he had. I think he had twenty six wins,
and I believe he threw thirty four complete games.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Yeah, well, I know that in the seventies seventy one,
whenever a sixty nine or seventy oriole staff, four dudes
had twenty wins on the same staff.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
That's what I said. Yeah, yeah, And that was that
was a four man rotation, right right, And all four
of them won twenty games or more, and all four
of them through a minimum of eighteen complete games. So
I don't know thank of it, which you will just
sharing an old man rat.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
That's not an old.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Man rant that that should be twenty five year olds
and twenty two year olds and eighteen year olds. And
the way we treat high school pitchers and college pitchers,
all of it, that's got it. That's ridiculous. It's work.
Pay him more and work them less. Pay him more
and work them less. And it's not just the picture's fault,
but it's a way we train them. We've baby pitchers
far too long, dude, we just have and as zero
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to do with. Well, you're older, that's what you think. No,
I actually think a lot younger when it comes. I
like change. I think change is good. I don't embrace
happen to do the same thing the same way all
the time. You get left behind when you do that.
But are we serious here? We literally can watch a
pitcher be dominating a game and hit one hundred and
one pitches and all of a sudden that becomes the
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threshold got to get him out. Well, that's why our
guy in the seventh, eighth, and ninth specialized. Well maybe
get me right, but guess what not today, son, they
don't specialize today. Today they're going to sit back and
watch that guy finish because he's going good. I'm telling
you it's one of my biggest It's in my crawl
all the time. And then when you see it written
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down almost five thousand games and twenty eight complete starts,
it's an embarrassment for whoever to create the embarrassment. It
is an embarrassment. It really is, even if it's not
the picture's fault. We look at the picture like, all right,
you're soft, which is unfair to the picture.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Yet five and.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Two third you get to six innings, dude, and you
are Our staff is out of what we are lights out. Yeah,
the seventh eighth guy don't always do their job, and
he is a ninth guy.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Well, I mean with my pictures mowing him down.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, Well, statistics tell us the same time through analytics,
I'm looking at a card. Well, the third time through
he gives up two more hits in that inning than
he does in the preview.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Yeah. That maybe this day's different.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
That's where I think it is in today's day and age,
that these analytics are so heavy in this excuse me,
in this game that managers see on a piece of
paper that oh it's the third time through analytics show
that the average goes up from two twenty up to
two thirty five. We gotta get a guy going in
the bullpen. He's only had eighty five pitches, but hey, seventh,
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any guy, he's ready to go. That's where I think
we are so analytically driven. And again, I think you
have to have a good balance of both. I think
you need feel for the game, and I think you
also need to have some analytics. But when you got
a guy that is cruising and he gets to the
sixth or seventh inning, you don't need to automatically go
get a guy hot.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
In the bullpitch.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Oh cool, Well apparently apparently what a lot of managers
do these days.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
And I'm I'm I'm over it. I am. It's just listen,
they're not going good.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
They're not going good, and a complete game doesn't mean
isn't the catch all? But it's alarming. Yeah, well that
was then this is now. You know a certain things
that doesn't have to change. The ball still doesn't wait
about the same.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I think there's also something to be said, though, with
if you've got a guy in April or May and
he's at ninety five pitches and he just got to
the seventh Dude, it's.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
May I get that part.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
But if he's cruising and he's pitching efficiently and he's
getting into the seventh inning, it's seventy five pitches.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
That's that's that's eleven. That's eleven pitches an inning.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Well, okay, let me you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
So so like, well, that's efficient.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Okay, But the comparison is, so if Derick Henry in September,
in September has thirty five carries, but they're up by
a touchdown and then they need him close out the game,
it has to get to thirty nine carries. Am I
supposed to sit him on the side and say no,
I think let's wait till Sion. I got to get
him to November to really I got to get his
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ramp up. Let's be real here. Football players are built different. Okay,
you know what I mean. Then you're just validating my point.
I know that's what I'm trying to do. You're validating,
You're validating my point. They're built different, right, But my
point is, so if Jacob deGrom he's got a two
hitter in the seventh inning and he's at ninety four
pitches in.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
May, not me, he's out, but they will pull him.
Oh how many times we see it?
Speaker 5 (07:44):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
You know what the phrase I'm so tired the two
words I'm so tired.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Here ramp up.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, you had to.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
What we do in off season spring training is not
a time to get in shape. If you're a guy
that comes to spring training to get in shape, you
will get hurt by the time the season is over
and you are leaving, and that's you. You are a
major disappointment and a let down behind. Yes, yeah, you
should come in like spring training's opening day. That's a
and all that is is a tune up to get
yourself rehearsals. It's just dress rehearsals. If I got to
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get you in shape, you're a turd. You're a friend.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Now.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
If you had off season surgery and we're rehabbing, it's
still different story. But if you re out, you're ready
to go, come into spring training to go. You're a
friggin turd. If you show up out of shape, it's
not only disrespect to you and the organization. You're basically
looking at your teammates and saying you, guys aren't that
important to me. But I'll tell you what now, go
to him and say, if you show up out of shape,
I'm taking one hundred thousand dollars off your base salary.
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And watch those suckers get their ass in shape. They'll
be ready to go. Yeah, don't take but one at all,
one and all one at all. But don't you dare
take anything from me? How dare you?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
How many times do we see early in the season
a guy going for a no hitter, or he's got
a no hit through the seventh into the eighth and
they pull him. We see it every year. Damn near
guy's got a one hitter that it's April got a longevity,
man longevity. And I think it goes deeper too. Like
we've talked about this, it goes deeper into into the
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youth baseball circle with all with these kids throwing hundreds
of pitches a weekend and coaches pitching them, parents not
having any feel. And then it trickles on up into
uh into arm injuries in high school, and then he
got arm injuries in college, and then everyone's gets really
worried about armoras injuries as we go and then then
you see that it's it's these these professional athletes get
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babied with these arm injuries.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
I think that's where it starts.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I think it's I think that's where it starts for me,
and then you then you add in the analytical standpoint.
Managers aren't gonna throw their guys more than six or
seven innings unless they're unless they're they're just in freaking erlander.
And it tells you, hey, I'm staying the f out there,
get off my mound. That's and and it. I hate analytics.
I've said it a thousand times. I can't stand it.
I think the analytics are overrated and all that.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I think there's a need for them, yeah, saying, but
I don't think if if I'm making all my decisions
based on analytics, you are going to miss out on
a lot of good stuff in life. Imagine applying analytics
to everything you do in your life. Can't that's not really,
but imagine playinget. I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Your life would suck.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
It would suck. I hate it.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Read off a car to when you're supposed to listen bitches.
When it's eight o'clock and I'm hungry, I'll eat even
if I ate at six.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, I'm not not doing it nice.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Twenty eight complete games July fourteenth, nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Nolan Ryan threw two hundred and thirty five pitches.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Now look at his next start.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, he turned around, threw over one.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Hundred and I think on on less than five days rescue.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
He struck out nineteen in that game.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Well, times have changed. Oh so, yeah, you're right. Times
have changed. The workouts, the medicine, the facilities, the money, everything,
the nutritionness. These guys have more access to the greatest
to everything. AI to tell you what you're supposed to
do in a workout. The workout back then was grab
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a couple of beers. Nolan Ryan would get on a
bike and pedal in the post press conference and throw
a football between starts. That was the extent of their grind.
And you know what, could actually pitch after a little
bit of a hangover. Yeah, a hangover. Now keep a
guy out five days. So what happened? We're the DNA change.
It's who manufactured that. You should have a matter of fact,
(11:18):
we should be saying, shouldn't our pitchers be pitching the
longer in their careers, more innings in their careers, more
sho should shouldn't aren't they strong enough and have all
this access to do things far? Hey, we're running marathons and.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
In what two hours?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Yeah, this is They've got such a special Why isn't
pitchers well, why can't they go longer?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Are you a guy? Are you a guy that like,
let's take uh, let's say you're training a seventh grade quarterback.
Are you a quarterback instructor that would encourage that player
to stick to one sport or go play multiple sports?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
He's playing every sport, so he learns how to be
competitive and also learns how to take it if he's
not the best in every sport, how to be better teammate, hand,
eye coordination, everything. You're like me, I'm more often if
you bring me two quarterbacks, everything the same, everything the
same grades, height, DNA, parents are great. I'm talking about
ever arm strength, did the IQ football? Like you and
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one plays two sports, in the other three sports in
the other place. One give me the give me the
guy who's playing more sports. I'll lean towards him first.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
So you're like, so that I have the same mindset,
and it goes into this whole thing. I'm not making
excuses for baseball players. But these kids these days play
baseball year round. They don't take breaks, they don't play
other sports. Nolan Ryan in his documentary said, Man, when
I was growing up, I was still a kid. I
didn't play year round like these kids these days. It
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goes into what the hell these dumb ass youth coaches
are doing to younger kids. That's why you see more
arm injuries. And that's why it trickles up to where
you don't see this. You see almost two was drop
the up bump. You see only twenty eight complete games.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
And it's it's a money grabbing. A lot of cases
on money eighty five percent of it, you'll get about
fifteen or twenty percent that are actually in it for
the kid and to be right. And secondly is and
and I'm not like I said, you bring your kid
to me, he ain't getting baby right. You can do
that at home, and you can soft sell anything you want.
I'm going to encourage. I'm a self esteem builder. Yes
I'm a self esteem builder, but I'm a truth teller teller, right,
(13:16):
Okay that in real life? Like I said, I had
a family come to me at a camp. Did I
train their kid? And coached him throughout the camp, and
they wanted to know when the camp was over if
he's a Division one prospect. He was five, about five
to eight seventh grader. He asked, is the a Division
one prospect? I said, if I tell you that, you
should never work with me again, and if anybody's telling
you that your best thing, you do if you're a
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fire him and move on to somebody else. But that
exists every single parent out there. That's not fair. A
lot of parents out there think that their kid that
Peyton Manning's every one of now that the aspiration to
be Peyton Manning is great. Every kid's not Division one.
Every kid's built different, and I don't train every kid
the same. Some kids are just built different and need
mechanical club. I mean, if you're that back to analytics,
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every the mechanics. I'm firm believer that good mechanics should
be in everybody's repertoire. But what a kid responds to
shouldn't one. I know one kid that I mean, I
got more than one that likes to be once you
to coach him hard. Other ones are a little more sensitive.
I get that, but when it comes to the truth,
you're gonna have when it comes to evaluation. I'm not
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telling these parents you don't pay me to lie to you,
and if you do, then if you do, you're awfully
dumb for paying that kind of money to get lied to.
And there's plenty of them that will do that for you.
So you're you are exactly one hundred percent correct. We
do that, we bathe him, then the money grab, and
then all of a sudden, oh and it's the coach
his fault if the kid's not playing. See, oh, well,
you know what, they ain't listen. I'm not dumb enough
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to not play my best players. I'm gonna coach them all.
This all hard, but I'm playing my best nine right exactly.
And if your kid's the fifteenth best player, he may
have to be learnt how to get better because oh,
you mean, he's got a go through some adversity and
you're trying to protect him from protect him is one
thing completely shelter them from it. They've got no shot
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in life, then none
Twenty eight complete games last year in Major League Baseball.
Not not a lot man, when you look at how
many games are played. Richard once again on this on
the phone lines, Richard, what's up.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey, good morning, Fallas. Are you ready for a year
old man? Yells at clad Cole in the morning. I'm
not that old, but this is really gonna make me
sound like I am talking about complete games. First thing that, well,
a couple first things that come to mind. Nolan Ryan.
Wasn't that a playoff game where he threw two hundred
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and eleven pitches?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Two and eleven.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
I mean, let me double check that Olan Ryan has
had starts where he came back and threw two hundred
and twenty or something pitches and then came back the
next start, like on a three or four days rest,
and threw over one hundred pitches.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
He's he's he's double yes.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
The one I was thinking, I think it was a
playoff game, but Nolan threw over two hundred pitches. The
other thing back from my childhood, which was not two
too long ago, but my old Oiols team that had
four twenty game winners. Okay, so and that was just
with the four man rotation or Weaver just said, I'm
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having four starters and I'm gonna roll with it. So
with this four man rotation, all four guys won more
than twenty games. And the stat line that'll make your
eyes pop out is how many complete games those guys threw.
Of those four starters that had twenty or more wins,
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the fewest complete games any of them threw was eighteen.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, and I know you're gonna get the younger. Younger
people are gonna say, well, you know, the games change
and the way, no, the way we treat them and
soft sell them and baby them is exactly what we're doing.
It's inexcusable to have twenty eight complete games when the
guys and that may not be just the play, the player,
the ownership, the front office, the manager. Baby, oh he
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hit one hundred pitches, but his velocity is still the same.
He's still getting people out. Well, we don't want to
wear him out. Oh, because twenty starts man alive, twenty
two stars. Man, what a grind. I just listen. It's
such as it's it's quite frankly borderline pathetic. Now that
they're not talented. It's a lot of reasons why they
don't do it. I know the game's changed and we
(02:27):
want him to go, but we are literally crowning people
heroes that give you five and two thirds and.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
They're going good.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Now.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Maybe the manager, maybe the like I said, the front
office that pulls him out. But the celebrating twenty eight
complete games is an embarrassment. And I don't know if
that's a managers being too protective or what have you,
but enough it's when you see it on paper, it's like,
this is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
And I'm gonna go back to my old man rants here.
But I think Tim Palmer led that fair Man's staff.
I think he had. I think he had twenty six wins,
and I believe he threw thirty four complete games.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Yeah, well, I know that in the seventies seventy one,
whenever a sixty nine or seventy oriole staff, four dudes
had twenty wins on the same staff.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
That's what I said. Yeah, yeah, And that was that
was a four man rotation, right right, And all four
of them won twenty games or more, and all four
of them through a minimum of eighteen complete games. So
I don't know thank of it, which you will just
sharing an old man rat.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
That's not an old.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Man rant that that should be twenty five year olds
and twenty two year olds and eighteen year olds. And
the way we treat high school pitchers and college pitchers,
all of it, that's got it. That's ridiculous. It's work.
Pay him more and work them less. Pay him more
and work them less. And it's not just the picture's fault,
but it's a way we train them. We've baby pitchers
far too long, dude, we just have and as zero
(04:03):
to do with. Well, you're older, that's what you think. No,
I actually think a lot younger when it comes. I
like change. I think change is good. I don't embrace
happen to do the same thing the same way all
the time. You get left behind when you do that.
But are we serious here? We literally can watch a
pitcher be dominating a game and hit one hundred and
one pitches and all of a sudden that becomes the
(04:25):
threshold got to get him out. Well, that's why our
guy in the seventh, eighth, and ninth specialized. Well maybe
get me right, but guess what not today, son, they
don't specialize today. Today they're going to sit back and
watch that guy finish because he's going good. I'm telling
you it's one of my biggest It's in my crawl
all the time. And then when you see it written
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down almost five thousand games and twenty eight complete starts,
it's an embarrassment for whoever to create the embarrassment. It
is an embarrassment. It really is, even if it's not
the picture's fault. We look at the picture like, all right,
you're soft, which is unfair to the picture.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Yet five and.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Two third you get to six innings, dude, and you
are Our staff is out of what we are lights out. Yeah,
the seventh eighth guy don't always do their job, and
he is a ninth guy.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Well, I mean with my pictures mowing him down.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, Well, statistics tell us the same time through analytics,
I'm looking at a card. Well, the third time through
he gives up two more hits in that inning than
he does in the preview.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Yeah. That maybe this day's different.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
That's where I think it is in today's day and age,
that these analytics are so heavy in this excuse me,
in this game that managers see on a piece of
paper that oh it's the third time through analytics show
that the average goes up from two twenty up to
two thirty five. We gotta get a guy going in
the bullpen. He's only had eighty five pitches, but hey, seventh,
(05:56):
any guy, he's ready to go. That's where I think
we are so analytically driven. And again, I think you
have to have a good balance of both. I think
you need feel for the game, and I think you
also need to have some analytics. But when you got
a guy that is cruising and he gets to the
sixth or seventh inning, you don't need to automatically go
get a guy hot.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
In the bullpitch.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Oh cool, Well apparently apparently what a lot of managers
do these days.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
And I'm I'm I'm over it. I am. It's just listen,
they're not going good.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
They're not going good, and a complete game doesn't mean
isn't the catch all? But it's alarming. Yeah, well that
was then this is now. You know a certain things
that doesn't have to change. The ball still doesn't wait
about the same.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I think there's also something to be said, though, with
if you've got a guy in April or May and
he's at ninety five pitches and he just got to
the seventh Dude, it's.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
May I get that part.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
But if he's cruising and he's pitching efficiently and he's
getting into the seventh inning, it's seventy five pitches.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
That's that's that's eleven. That's eleven pitches an inning.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Well, okay, let me you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
So so like, well, that's efficient.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Okay, But the comparison is, so if Derick Henry in September,
in September has thirty five carries, but they're up by
a touchdown and then they need him close out the game,
it has to get to thirty nine carries. Am I
supposed to sit him on the side and say no,
I think let's wait till Sion. I got to get
him to November to really I got to get his
(07:22):
ramp up. Let's be real here. Football players are built different. Okay,
you know what I mean. Then you're just validating my point.
I know that's what I'm trying to do. You're validating,
You're validating my point. They're built different, right, But my
point is, so if Jacob deGrom he's got a two
hitter in the seventh inning and he's at ninety four
pitches in.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
May, not me, he's out, but they will pull him.
Oh how many times we see it?
Speaker 5 (07:44):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
You know what the phrase I'm so tired the two
words I'm so tired.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Here ramp up.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, you had to.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
What we do in off season spring training is not
a time to get in shape. If you're a guy
that comes to spring training to get in shape, you
will get hurt by the time the season is over
and you are leaving, and that's you. You are a
major disappointment and a let down behind. Yes, yeah, you
should come in like spring training's opening day. That's a
and all that is is a tune up to get
yourself rehearsals. It's just dress rehearsals. If I got to
(08:13):
get you in shape, you're a turd. You're a friend.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Now.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
If you had off season surgery and we're rehabbing, it's
still different story. But if you re out, you're ready
to go, come into spring training to go. You're a
friggin turd. If you show up out of shape, it's
not only disrespect to you and the organization. You're basically
looking at your teammates and saying you, guys aren't that
important to me. But I'll tell you what now, go
to him and say, if you show up out of shape,
I'm taking one hundred thousand dollars off your base salary.
(08:38):
And watch those suckers get their ass in shape. They'll
be ready to go. Yeah, don't take but one at all,
one and all one at all. But don't you dare
take anything from me? How dare you?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
How many times do we see early in the season
a guy going for a no hitter, or he's got
a no hit through the seventh into the eighth and
they pull him. We see it every year. Damn near
guy's got a one hitter that it's April got a longevity,
man longevity. And I think it goes deeper too. Like
we've talked about this, it goes deeper into into the
(09:08):
youth baseball circle with all with these kids throwing hundreds
of pitches a weekend and coaches pitching them, parents not
having any feel. And then it trickles on up into
uh into arm injuries in high school, and then he
got arm injuries in college, and then everyone's gets really
worried about armoras injuries as we go and then then
you see that it's it's these these professional athletes get
(09:28):
babied with these arm injuries.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
I think that's where it starts.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I think it's I think that's where it starts for me,
and then you then you add in the analytical standpoint.
Managers aren't gonna throw their guys more than six or
seven innings unless they're unless they're they're just in freaking erlander.
And it tells you, hey, I'm staying the f out there,
get off my mound. That's and and it. I hate analytics.
I've said it a thousand times. I can't stand it.
I think the analytics are overrated and all that.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I think there's a need for them, yeah, saying, but
I don't think if if I'm making all my decisions
based on analytics, you are going to miss out on
a lot of good stuff in life. Imagine applying analytics
to everything you do in your life. Can't that's not really,
but imagine playinget. I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Your life would suck.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
It would suck. I hate it.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Read off a car to when you're supposed to listen bitches.
When it's eight o'clock and I'm hungry, I'll eat even
if I ate at six.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, I'm not not doing it nice.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Twenty eight complete games July fourteenth, nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Nolan Ryan threw two hundred and thirty five pitches.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Now look at his next start.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, he turned around, threw over one.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Hundred and I think on on less than five days rescue.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
He struck out nineteen in that game.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Well, times have changed. Oh so, yeah, you're right. Times
have changed. The workouts, the medicine, the facilities, the money, everything,
the nutritionness. These guys have more access to the greatest
to everything. AI to tell you what you're supposed to
do in a workout. The workout back then was grab
(10:57):
a couple of beers. Nolan Ryan would get on a
bike and pedal in the post press conference and throw
a football between starts. That was the extent of their grind.
And you know what, could actually pitch after a little
bit of a hangover. Yeah, a hangover. Now keep a
guy out five days. So what happened? We're the DNA change.
It's who manufactured that. You should have a matter of fact,
(11:18):
we should be saying, shouldn't our pitchers be pitching the
longer in their careers, more innings in their careers, more
sho should shouldn't aren't they strong enough and have all
this access to do things far? Hey, we're running marathons and.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
In what two hours?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Yeah, this is They've got such a special Why isn't
pitchers well, why can't they go longer?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Are you a guy? Are you a guy that like,
let's take uh, let's say you're training a seventh grade quarterback.
Are you a quarterback instructor that would encourage that player
to stick to one sport or go play multiple sports?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
He's playing every sport, so he learns how to be
competitive and also learns how to take it if he's
not the best in every sport, how to be better teammate, hand,
eye coordination, everything. You're like me, I'm more often if
you bring me two quarterbacks, everything the same, everything the
same grades, height, DNA, parents are great. I'm talking about
ever arm strength, did the IQ football? Like you and
(12:15):
one plays two sports, in the other three sports in
the other place. One give me the give me the
guy who's playing more sports. I'll lean towards him first.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
So you're like, so that I have the same mindset,
and it goes into this whole thing. I'm not making
excuses for baseball players. But these kids these days play
baseball year round. They don't take breaks, they don't play
other sports. Nolan Ryan in his documentary said, Man, when
I was growing up, I was still a kid. I
didn't play year round like these kids these days. It
(12:42):
goes into what the hell these dumb ass youth coaches
are doing to younger kids. That's why you see more
arm injuries. And that's why it trickles up to where
you don't see this. You see almost two was drop
the up bump. You see only twenty eight complete games.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
And it's it's a money grabbing. A lot of cases
on money eighty five percent of it, you'll get about
fifteen or twenty percent that are actually in it for
the kid and to be right. And secondly is and
and I'm not like I said, you bring your kid
to me, he ain't getting baby right. You can do
that at home, and you can soft sell anything you want.
I'm going to encourage. I'm a self esteem builder. Yes
I'm a self esteem builder, but I'm a truth teller teller, right,
(13:16):
Okay that in real life? Like I said, I had
a family come to me at a camp. Did I
train their kid? And coached him throughout the camp, and
they wanted to know when the camp was over if
he's a Division one prospect. He was five, about five
to eight seventh grader. He asked, is the a Division
one prospect? I said, if I tell you that, you
should never work with me again, and if anybody's telling
you that your best thing, you do if you're a
(13:38):
fire him and move on to somebody else. But that
exists every single parent out there. That's not fair. A
lot of parents out there think that their kid that
Peyton Manning's every one of now that the aspiration to
be Peyton Manning is great. Every kid's not Division one.
Every kid's built different, and I don't train every kid
the same. Some kids are just built different and need
mechanical club. I mean, if you're that back to analytics,
(14:00):
every the mechanics. I'm firm believer that good mechanics should
be in everybody's repertoire. But what a kid responds to
shouldn't one. I know one kid that I mean, I
got more than one that likes to be once you
to coach him hard. Other ones are a little more sensitive.
I get that, but when it comes to the truth,
you're gonna have when it comes to evaluation. I'm not
(14:21):
telling these parents you don't pay me to lie to you,
and if you do, then if you do, you're awfully
dumb for paying that kind of money to get lied to.
And there's plenty of them that will do that for you.
So you're you are exactly one hundred percent correct. We
do that, we bathe him, then the money grab, and
then all of a sudden, oh and it's the coach
his fault if the kid's not playing. See, oh, well,
you know what, they ain't listen. I'm not dumb enough
(14:45):
to not play my best players. I'm gonna coach them all.
This all hard, but I'm playing my best nine right exactly.
And if your kid's the fifteenth best player, he may
have to be learnt how to get better because oh,
you mean, he's got a go through some adversity and
you're trying to protect him from protect him is one
thing completely shelter them from it. They've got no shot
(15:07):
in life, then none
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