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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Eight oh five thirteen ten WIBA and ask the experts
sprout you buy Larsen Holmes Services joined this morning by
Andrew Larson. Of course you can learn more online the
website larsenhome Services dot com. That's Larson L A R.
S O N Home Services dot com. They're twelve number six,
so eight five three five forty three forty three. That's
(00:21):
five three five forty three forty three. Andrew, you've been
out on the roads at all yet this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You know I haven't. It's slick. I don't have to
leave any more to do the radio show. You've got
It made my man. Oh do you remember those Remember
for all those years I had to drive into the studio.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We miss seeing you though.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I've got to be fun. It was fun. But then
COVID hit and you're like you can't come in anything.
And you're like, you know, if you just buy a microphone,
we can do this and this, And I was like,
co have we been doing that the whole time? I mean,
I love coming in. Yeah, it is. It is quite
the drive in the morning from the ode. I yes,
it's it's like from the north pole of the Madison
(00:58):
Metro to the cell phone. But anyway, I've not been
out on the roads yet. Wednesdays, I get the workout
in the morning, I do radio show, then I head
into work. But this weather is different. And last week
when we were sitting on the show, I don't remember
what it was, but I know it was really cold,
and I know we were having issues and I was
going to talk about cape CODs and I said, I
(01:21):
talk about it this week. And now this week, I'm
sitting here and I don't even know if it's fifty
degrees outside already. And you know, I just looked at
an extended forecast that goes out forty five days. Now
how accurate that is, I'm not sure. But even if
it's eighty percent accurate, I didn't see another day where
it dropped below freezing. Oh nice, Oh the way to April.
(01:43):
I listen. I'm not I'm not a weather person. I'm
just saying I looked at it this morning and it
looked to me like, I don't even want to say it,
but winter might be almost over last, pretty mild, But
I still want to talk about cape cod because the
reason that I brought that up last week is there
(02:04):
are a lot of cape cod homes in the Madison
area cape CODs were most of them were built in
the thirties and forties, and they were really small little homes,
usually eight or nine hundred square feet, unfinished basement, but
two bedrooms, one bath, and that's just what they were
well then people. But they always had a really steep
(02:26):
roof on them. So people thought, hey, let's add some
stairs and let's finish off, finish off the attic. They'd
put some dormward windows in, you could create some bedrooms
and this and that problem being is that they're an
absolute nightmare to insulate properly because we get areas called
knee wall areas. So if you're in your house and
(02:48):
you go upstairs and you look up at the ceiling,
and the ceiling is sloped, and then let's just say
you look at an exterior wall and you start walking
towards it, but your head hits the ceiling before you
get to the wall, that would be a knee wall area.
Hence the wall is about the height of your knee,
maybe a little higher. But anyway, that's how they'd finish
(03:09):
them off, to make you know, now you had a
wall you could push a bed up against. But how
do you insulate it? And you could talk to ten
different people and you might get ten different answers, But
the most common way that they did it was they
just put some insulation on the back of the wall,
on the back of the knee wall, and then there's
a bunch of dead space behind it, you know, not
(03:33):
real big. It depends. I've seen different sized ones. Some
you could actually walk into crouched and people would have
a closet in there, and some of them you got
to crawl in on your hands and knees. But there's
a dead space area back there. But here's the problem.
When you put normally you put insulation in a wall,
it's up against something. So that insulation might be up
(03:53):
against the sheathing that goes to the outside of your house,
so it can stay in there. It's nice and tight,
and it works really well well. The insulation on the
back of a knee wall, there's nothing behind it, so
it starts to fall. It's not actually touching the insulation.
So let's think of this. Now, we have an attic
space and most likely right behind someone's head when they're sleeping. Okay,
(04:17):
that's pushed up against it. My old house actually had
this exact same thing, exact same problem. Now it's like
it was last week, twenty below inch. Okay, so your
bed is pushed up against a wall, and for all
intentsive purposes, that wall is probably zero degrees. But we're
(04:37):
heating this area. So what happens. We're blowing eighty degree
air into a room and now we've got a wall
that might be zero degrees because there's essentially an uninsulated
attic behind it. We start getting moisture, we start getting condensation.
One of my reps visited a house last week where
(04:59):
he had water streaming down the corners of his knee walls.
It's then there's with it being insulated and ventilated the
way that they the way that they were normally done there,
there's no way to stop that unless we get in
there and we fix it properly, and for the unfortunately
for this person, there was not even access to it.
A lot of times there's access. There's like a knee
(05:21):
wall scuttle hole that you can open and get in
there and whatever. People would put those in for storage,
not to actually do anything with it. But there's a
couple different ways to do it. But the way that
we do it is. We are going to go in
there and we are going to insulate the roof slope
in there, because essentially, once you go into that knee
wall area, you're looking at a roof slope, and we're
(05:42):
going to insulate that roof slope and turn it into
what's called a warm attic. We're also going to cut
the floor so we can get at the area where
the floor joysts are put on top of the wall.
It almost acts like it almost acts like rim joice
in the basement. That's where we're going to whole cold
errand because for the most part, that type of home
(06:03):
has unventilated sofits they don't go anywhere because there's really
nowhere for them to go, or they've been blocked because
they finished the upstairs. The reason I talk about cape
CODs is there. You can go on the internet, you
can research it and you might find ten different ways
to do it. We have perfected how to do it.
(06:26):
Have we always been perfect? No? Have we missed critical
details and created a bigger problem. Yes, we have. It
was a learning process on figuring out how to do these.
Because there are so many of this type of home
in our area, we deal with them all the time,
but now we have it. Now, I don't want to
(06:48):
divulge everything that we do normally. I'm a pretty open book.
But we've perfected this over time, and it's taken a
lot of time. It's taken a lot of education, it's
cost a lot of money because honestly, we have screwed
some things up, but we always take care of it
in the end. But we get in there and we
treat those at We treat that area like an attic,
(07:10):
and we want to create turn that into a conditioned space.
So now that wall behind your child's head, yes, is
not freezing cold in the winter and not one hundred
degrees in the summer. Most people who have those houses,
you can keep them warm in the winter just because
heat rises. But in the summer people can't even sleep
in them. Yeah, because it's ninety degrees up there and
(07:33):
you can't cool it down. Well, you've got an attic
basically separated by a piece of sheet rock and that
little space back there's one hundred and forty degrees and
now we're trying to cool that room. It's almost impossible.
So if you have a cape cod and it's always
a problem, and your energy bills are out of control.
(07:55):
But more importantly, you've got finished spaces in your home
that become almost a nuisance to try to inhabit because
they're too hot, they're too cold, you've got moisture on
the walls. We can fix it. You know.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
One of the things I love hearing from you is
some of your experience. You talk about the issues you
ran into in the past. For folks that don't know
those issues still exist with others. Is you at larstome Services,
You guys have figured out how to solve this problem.
Is people are saying, well were they doing previously? Well,
what you guys were doing previously is what everybody is
doing their techniques which are not the proper techniques. And
(08:33):
that's a great thing in working with you, Andrew, and
for folks that haven't had a chance, I hope that
you head on over to Larcendomeservices dot com learn more
about Andrew and the team roofing services, gutters, insulation, learn
about the folks at Larst Home Services because one of
the things you will quickly discover is you see them
out in the field. Obviously, you see the guys, the
roofers doing their work and the attic specialists, instalation specialists
(08:56):
doing their work. You see them doing the work. One
of the things that you learn when you start following
you on Facebook, social media, going with the website is
a big part of what you guys do is education,
classroom time, those type of things. And it's really as
a homeowner, very reassuring that the folks that are working
on your home are doing the absolute best for you,
your home and your wallet and budget. Give them a
call Larstome Services Helph number six so eight five three
(09:18):
five forty three forty three. That's five three five forty
three forty three for Larsen Home Services. As you were
talking about cape CODs is remembering my my sister and
brother in law used to have a Cape Cod in
Walkie Shaw and their guest bedroom was upstairs. And I
think it was that way on purpose to discourage family
from visiting staying over.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
It's good for one night and then you gotta leave.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yes it is, Yes, it is. So if you want
a comfortable space a great day to call Andrew and
the team six oh eight five three five forty three
forty three. That's five three five four three four three Andrew,
It's always great chatting with you. Enjoy this beautiful day,
enjoy this warm weather, and we'll do it all again
in seven days.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Ay, next week we're gonna talk roof coding.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Oh fantastic.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
It'd be good. It's gonna be good for folks.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
That haven't caught some revolutionary stuff at Larst Home Services.
Learn more online Larsend Home Services dot com. That's Larson
l A R. S O N Home Services dot Com.
Kevin Hamhamsarbacare. He comes to Way next year on thirteen
ten WI B E
Eight oh five thirteen ten WIBA and ask the experts
sprout you buy Larsen Holmes Services joined this morning by
Andrew Larson. Of course you can learn more online the
website larsenhome Services dot com. That's Larson L A R.
S O N Home Services dot com. They're twelve number six,
so eight five three five forty three forty three. That's
(00:21):
five three five forty three forty three. Andrew, you've been
out on the roads at all yet this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You know I haven't. It's slick. I don't have to
leave any more to do the radio show. You've got
It made my man. Oh do you remember those Remember
for all those years I had to drive into the studio.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We miss seeing you though.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I've got to be fun. It was fun. But then
COVID hit and you're like you can't come in anything.
And you're like, you know, if you just buy a microphone,
we can do this and this, And I was like,
co have we been doing that the whole time? I mean,
I love coming in. Yeah, it is. It is quite
the drive in the morning from the ode. I yes,
it's it's like from the north pole of the Madison
(00:58):
Metro to the cell phone. But anyway, I've not been
out on the roads yet. Wednesdays, I get the workout
in the morning, I do radio show, then I head
into work. But this weather is different. And last week
when we were sitting on the show, I don't remember
what it was, but I know it was really cold,
and I know we were having issues and I was
going to talk about cape CODs and I said, I
(01:21):
talk about it this week. And now this week, I'm
sitting here and I don't even know if it's fifty
degrees outside already. And you know, I just looked at
an extended forecast that goes out forty five days. Now
how accurate that is, I'm not sure. But even if
it's eighty percent accurate, I didn't see another day where
it dropped below freezing. Oh nice, Oh the way to April.
(01:43):
I listen. I'm not I'm not a weather person. I'm
just saying I looked at it this morning and it
looked to me like, I don't even want to say it,
but winter might be almost over last, pretty mild, But
I still want to talk about cape cod because the
reason that I brought that up last week is there
(02:04):
are a lot of cape cod homes in the Madison
area cape CODs were most of them were built in
the thirties and forties, and they were really small little homes,
usually eight or nine hundred square feet, unfinished basement, but
two bedrooms, one bath, and that's just what they were
well then people. But they always had a really steep
(02:26):
roof on them. So people thought, hey, let's add some
stairs and let's finish off, finish off the attic. They'd
put some dormward windows in, you could create some bedrooms
and this and that problem being is that they're an
absolute nightmare to insulate properly because we get areas called
knee wall areas. So if you're in your house and
(02:48):
you go upstairs and you look up at the ceiling,
and the ceiling is sloped, and then let's just say
you look at an exterior wall and you start walking
towards it, but your head hits the ceiling before you
get to the wall, that would be a knee wall area.
Hence the wall is about the height of your knee,
maybe a little higher. But anyway, that's how they'd finish
(03:09):
them off, to make you know, now you had a
wall you could push a bed up against. But how
do you insulate it? And you could talk to ten
different people and you might get ten different answers, But
the most common way that they did it was they
just put some insulation on the back of the wall,
on the back of the knee wall, and then there's
a bunch of dead space behind it, you know, not
(03:33):
real big. It depends. I've seen different sized ones. Some
you could actually walk into crouched and people would have
a closet in there, and some of them you got
to crawl in on your hands and knees. But there's
a dead space area back there. But here's the problem.
When you put normally you put insulation in a wall,
it's up against something. So that insulation might be up
(03:53):
against the sheathing that goes to the outside of your house,
so it can stay in there. It's nice and tight,
and it works really well well. The insulation on the
back of a knee wall, there's nothing behind it, so
it starts to fall. It's not actually touching the insulation.
So let's think of this. Now, we have an attic
space and most likely right behind someone's head when they're sleeping. Okay,
(04:17):
that's pushed up against it. My old house actually had
this exact same thing, exact same problem. Now it's like
it was last week, twenty below inch. Okay, so your
bed is pushed up against a wall, and for all
intentsive purposes, that wall is probably zero degrees. But we're
(04:37):
heating this area. So what happens. We're blowing eighty degree
air into a room and now we've got a wall
that might be zero degrees because there's essentially an uninsulated
attic behind it. We start getting moisture, we start getting condensation.
One of my reps visited a house last week where
(04:59):
he had water streaming down the corners of his knee walls.
It's then there's with it being insulated and ventilated the
way that they the way that they were normally done there,
there's no way to stop that unless we get in
there and we fix it properly, and for the unfortunately
for this person, there was not even access to it.
A lot of times there's access. There's like a knee
(05:21):
wall scuttle hole that you can open and get in
there and whatever. People would put those in for storage,
not to actually do anything with it. But there's a
couple different ways to do it. But the way that
we do it is. We are going to go in
there and we are going to insulate the roof slope
in there, because essentially, once you go into that knee
wall area, you're looking at a roof slope, and we're
(05:42):
going to insulate that roof slope and turn it into
what's called a warm attic. We're also going to cut
the floor so we can get at the area where
the floor joysts are put on top of the wall.
It almost acts like it almost acts like rim joice
in the basement. That's where we're going to whole cold
errand because for the most part, that type of home
(06:03):
has unventilated sofits they don't go anywhere because there's really
nowhere for them to go, or they've been blocked because
they finished the upstairs. The reason I talk about cape
CODs is there. You can go on the internet, you
can research it and you might find ten different ways
to do it. We have perfected how to do it.
(06:26):
Have we always been perfect? No? Have we missed critical
details and created a bigger problem. Yes, we have. It
was a learning process on figuring out how to do these.
Because there are so many of this type of home
in our area, we deal with them all the time,
but now we have it. Now, I don't want to
(06:48):
divulge everything that we do normally. I'm a pretty open book.
But we've perfected this over time, and it's taken a
lot of time. It's taken a lot of education, it's
cost a lot of money because honestly, we have screwed
some things up, but we always take care of it
in the end. But we get in there and we
treat those at We treat that area like an attic,
(07:10):
and we want to create turn that into a conditioned space.
So now that wall behind your child's head, yes, is
not freezing cold in the winter and not one hundred
degrees in the summer. Most people who have those houses,
you can keep them warm in the winter just because
heat rises. But in the summer people can't even sleep
in them. Yeah, because it's ninety degrees up there and
(07:33):
you can't cool it down. Well, you've got an attic
basically separated by a piece of sheet rock and that
little space back there's one hundred and forty degrees and
now we're trying to cool that room. It's almost impossible.
So if you have a cape cod and it's always
a problem, and your energy bills are out of control.
(07:55):
But more importantly, you've got finished spaces in your home
that become almost a nuisance to try to inhabit because
they're too hot, they're too cold, you've got moisture on
the walls. We can fix it. You know.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
One of the things I love hearing from you is
some of your experience. You talk about the issues you
ran into in the past. For folks that don't know
those issues still exist with others. Is you at larstome Services,
You guys have figured out how to solve this problem.
Is people are saying, well were they doing previously? Well,
what you guys were doing previously is what everybody is
doing their techniques which are not the proper techniques. And
(08:33):
that's a great thing in working with you, Andrew, and
for folks that haven't had a chance, I hope that
you head on over to Larcendomeservices dot com learn more
about Andrew and the team roofing services, gutters, insulation, learn
about the folks at Larst Home Services because one of
the things you will quickly discover is you see them
out in the field. Obviously, you see the guys, the
roofers doing their work and the attic specialists, instalation specialists
(08:56):
doing their work. You see them doing the work. One
of the things that you learn when you start following
you on Facebook, social media, going with the website is
a big part of what you guys do is education,
classroom time, those type of things. And it's really as
a homeowner, very reassuring that the folks that are working
on your home are doing the absolute best for you,
your home and your wallet and budget. Give them a
call Larstome Services Helph number six so eight five three
(09:18):
five forty three forty three. That's five three five forty
three forty three for Larsen Home Services. As you were
talking about cape CODs is remembering my my sister and
brother in law used to have a Cape Cod in
Walkie Shaw and their guest bedroom was upstairs. And I
think it was that way on purpose to discourage family
from visiting staying over.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
It's good for one night and then you gotta leave.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yes it is, Yes, it is. So if you want
a comfortable space a great day to call Andrew and
the team six oh eight five three five forty three
forty three. That's five three five four three four three Andrew,
It's always great chatting with you. Enjoy this beautiful day,
enjoy this warm weather, and we'll do it all again
in seven days.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Ay, next week we're gonna talk roof coding.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Oh fantastic.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
It'd be good. It's gonna be good for folks.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
That haven't caught some revolutionary stuff at Larst Home Services.
Learn more online Larsend Home Services dot com. That's Larson
l A R. S O N Home Services dot Com.
Kevin Hamhamsarbacare. He comes to Way next year on thirteen
ten WI B E
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