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Lisa brig is Lisa.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
How you doing.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
I'm good? How are you? Yeah? That was funny.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
It wasn't far, but it had to be fast.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I don't do many speeding bullet Yeah, that's great to
see you.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
What a beautiful day it looks like out there? Is
it nice? I haven't been out since it was dark
and it is nice.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
It seems like the humidity is down a little bit.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh, thank goodness, we've I know it was it was horrible.
It was it was pretty.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
It was pretty rough and uh looks like the forecast
pretty pretty decent. I do think that there's going to
be a couple of days that are going to be
I thought maybe it's not necessarily Madison, But I did
see areas where because of that Canadian smoke, it's kind
of creating like a like a heat blanket and just
like trapping.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, there's some highs that I don't like.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Don't like.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
No, Now, how about your plants.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
The plants like them, plants like it, love this stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, especially if you've got like tomatoes or peppers or
things that need heat.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, or that appreciate heat.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
You know, we talk about phone lines questions. Folks may
have six eight three two one thirteen ten. That's six
o eight three two one thirteen ten. Maybe wondering why
I had to run like a lightning bolt. It's because
I was asking Lisa about a question that I had
which involved tomatoes.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, I'm a little puzzled because.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
You said Christina's got some tomato plants and they are
green and growing.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
I'm not producing flowers. Is she fertilizing them that I
don't That's a good question.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
I don't know. I think so.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
She kind of a little backstory is one of these
she had of her girls weekends and she came back
with them, so one of her friends gave them to her.
So I don't know what the what type of tomato
they are, what.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Their origin is.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
For all I know they're like and for all she knows,
they maybe just three stick weeds that our friends just
randomly thought were to.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Me, Well, you can if you smell the leaves, you'll
smell that tomato smell acid kind of. No, the leaves
have very green, but it's very distinctive. Okay, so you
would smell it. It smells like a tomato.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
In my suspect was the deer and you said.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
That probably, I find but I don't think that they
would be like nipping off just the flowers. I think
you'd see more damage because deer, you know, because they're
a ruminant they like, you know, non things. I know
I'm doing a thing right, But they don't nip things
like a rabbit will look like a pruning cut. A

(02:51):
deer will kind of grab things with those molar kind of.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Teeth and pull it.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
So you'd see you'd see more damage if it was deer.
And I also don't think that with their with the
fragrance of the leaves and the fact that they're sometimes
a little hairy, you know, they have that texture. It's
not necessarily a favorite with rabbits.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
I'm wondering though.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
If she is fertilizing, if she's using like something that's
high in nitrogen, that might cause them to grow really well, Okay,
at the expense of producing flowers.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Oh so if she's so, you know, if.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
She picks up like a tomato fertilizer or just stops fertilizing, okay,
and see what happens.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay, Well, if they have to follow up on this one, yeah, sure,
And it's just like me.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Luckily there's there's still some summer.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, yes there is.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I mean we're we're in mid to late July, but
we've still got all of August a September.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
So if you've got a question, great opportunity you can
be just like me asked Lisa gives call, gets you
on the air. Six so eight three two one thirteen ten.
That's six so eight to three two one thirteen ten
to have you join us this morning. All sorts of
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Speaker 1 (04:04):
We talked a little bit about the weather.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
We haven't talked and touched on Gail's tip this week
involves something that I wish that like if you could
find a way to get like a deer or a
rabbit that only went after weeds and was like very
discriminate about what they were going after, maybe.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Solved, I know.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
But they're they're just very efficient pruners, but they're not very.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Discriminate about what they're proving is a problem. It's Yeah,
it's just like it's the same thing people want herbicide
that will only kill what they.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Want it to kill. Yes, Yeah, it's like it's the
holy grail of gardening.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Some day, some day, someday.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
There's somebody to write a song about.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Gail's ponderance this week is why weed?

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Why weed? Why weed?

Speaker 4 (04:47):
It's beyond it not looking attractive. Yeah, for sure, weeds
do harbor insects, both beneficial and not beneficial. They can
also harbor diseases. They also can use up water that's
in the soil, nutrients in the soil.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
They It's also been proven that I think it was.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Michigan State did a study years ago where they had
some apple trees and they experimented with different kinds of
groundcover or malt or you know, weed fabric and weeds
grass growing right up to the trees. And what they

(05:38):
discovered is that you get better yield when the soil
is clean. Oh, so what you want to do is,
you know, for trees and shrubs you do mulching, and
for a garden you can melch as well.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
You know, you can melt with straw.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Some people will put cardboard or something on the paths between,
you know, between the plants, just to keep the weeds down.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Okay, I always have.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
The hard thing for me is always when, especially when
plants are getting started, knowing which are the plants coming
up and which are the weeds?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Is there like any way to You really have.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
To wait for the true leaves to come out.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
When a plant first comes up, that first set of
what looks like leaves, they're very similar from plant plants,
So you have to wait until the plant will put
on it's what we call true leaves, and then sort
of you know, use an app, send photos to the
plant desk, you know, if you have reference materials, just
sort of figure out, you know, what you planted, you're

(06:36):
looking for what you planted right, and then once you
have determined that and you get everything cleaned out.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Use prene. Prene is a pre emergent herbicide. So if you.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Sprinkle it around the plants, it will prevent any weed,
seeds or seeds that fly in from your neighbors from germinating.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Okay, is it yellow? It's a yellow.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, it's in a.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yellow shaker that there's several iterations of it, just the
standard pre and there's one that's got fertilizer in it.
There's a an organic one which is basically corn gluten.
You'll have to apply it more often. It doesn't last
as long okay as the non organic ones, but it
doesn't hurt anything. You just have to make sure that

(07:24):
it's going to stop to remember it's going to stop
any weeds, any seeds from germinating.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
So then if you have.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Preen down and then you put down a mid season
crop of lettuce or spinach or something like that, it's
going to do its job.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
So once it's on there.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
That you need to use plants, you know, it won't
hurt a plant that you put in there.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
It's just the germinating.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
It's just the germinating situation.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Speaking of mid season plant is are we at mid season. Now,
is this the time of year where we should start
thinking about that.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
We're a little bit early for that.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Usually end of month, early August you and start sewing things.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
And it's just.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
In the spring when you were planting your seeds and
thinking about when you could get them outside, so you
were counting from the last frost. Now you're counting backwards
to the first frost, which is usually around October fifteenth,
October twentieth. Okay, So you just want to make sure

(08:24):
that when you get those seed packets and you look
on the back and it'll say, you know, days to
germination and then days to maturity, you add those days
up and then count back, okay, and usually you're so
you're looking at really quick season things. Generally, cool season
plants tend to do better, like you know, if you're

(08:44):
doing like broccolini or lots of the green crops, little carrots,
young you know, if you're going to harvest like baby
beets or young radishes, that kind of thing do the best.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
So i'd say it's and starting that that obviously probably
not going to start now.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
It's still got yeah, still you want to what you
want to do is wait for the really that pocket
of heat which we generally see used to be the
month of July into early August. Now it starts a
little earlier, and so it probably ends a little later.
So you want to you want to wait for the
days that we have coming where the knights don't get

(09:22):
below seventy five and the days are above ninety. You
want to wait for that pattern to sort of usher
its way.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Out the swelter to wander.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Well, yeah, the sweltering.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
You got a question for Lisa love to have you
joined us this morning? Phone lines they are open six
soh eight three two one thirteen ten. That's six O
eight three two one thirteen ten.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
You can learn more.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
About the Bruce Company on their website Bruce Company dot com.
That's Bruce Company dot com, Facebook and social media the
Bruce Company. Great day to get on in right at
the Middleton Guard sid of the Bruce Company at twenty
eight thirty parm Innis Street. That's twenty eight thirty parm
Inter Street. And uh, it's not really weeding, but there
are certain things from the ground. I love it just
worked there we could just permanently remove which are grubs

(10:02):
which become beetles and a little late this year, but
we're starting to see.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
We've seen, yeah, we've we've heard a few reports coming in.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
I don't know if.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
We had a relatively cold spring, but the growing degree
days have sort of evened out, especially with the heat
that we've had the last few weeks. But we'll see
if Gale's prediction about the you know about the no
snow cover meaning that we had a deeper frost this
year or last winter, and then see if that means

(10:36):
that it affected the beetles in the grub stage or not.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
We can only hope.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
I saw two, which is way fewer normally this time
of ours on our especially the raspberries.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Would just be coated with them, and we saw a
couple and that was yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
I've had a couple of people at the plant desk
who have had them. Remember that, you know there are
there are a number of pesticides you can use to
run the gamut from a really organic method to a
not organic method. You can also for food crops, since
this is the time of year when we're starting to

(11:14):
harvest the things that Japanese beetles really like, like beans
and raspberries, you can certainly use a floating row cover
and just cover that crop.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Beetles will fly in and land on things.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
They don't necessarily get onto the ground or you know,
they can't fly under your floating row cover.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
So that's a really.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Good way if you just have a few that you're seeing,
pick them off and pop them in that little bucket
of slightly soapy water.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
And why soap please, wherever you explain that.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
You put a little dish soap in the water and
it breaks the surface, the surface tension of the water,
because if you've ever done it without, the Japanese beetles
will kind of land on the top, wiggle their legs,
then fly right out. So the putting a little bit
of soa it means that when you pop them in there,
they actually holds them They actually go into the water,

(12:08):
not floating on top of the water.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Perfect, perfect stuff.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
You've got questions for Lisa, Love to have Joyce morning
phone lines open six so eight three two one thirteen ten.
That's six oh eight three two one thirteen ten. All
sorts of events going on at the Bruce Company. Also
some sales talk about those as well as the blood
drive and take your call next. Of course, I've been
to the website yet, head on over Bruce Company dot Com.
That's Bruce Company dot com. Or stop on in. They'd
love to see you today. Right at twenty eight thirty

(12:32):
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eight twenty two thirteen ten Double Uiba and every Day
Outdoor Living brought to you by the Bruce Company Online
Bruce Company dot Com. That's Bruce Company dot com, Facebook
and social media the Bruce Company. Just a fantastic day

(12:52):
to get on into the Middleton garden centered Bruce Company.
Right at twenty eight thirty parm registreet. That's twenty eight
thirty part registrate. Hanging out with Lisa Briggs from the
Bruce Company. If you've got a question, phone lines are
open six so eight three two one thirteen ten. That's
three two one thirteen ten. Speaking of getting into the
Bruce Company, I know as we look at seasons changing,
and of course everything's always being refreshed at the Bruce Company,

(13:15):
renewed and refreshed, and I don't know there's other other
our words, uh not recycling. See, you guys do a
lot of recycling at the Bruce Company.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
You recycling a ton of.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Like what don't they do?

Speaker 2 (13:27):
But uh, there's always uh obviously one of the one
of the great benefits is one obviously there's always something
new and always a great reason to get on into
the middle of garden center. But as seasons change, things
go on special and safe too, don't they do.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Yeah, there's always savings in the summer you get past
the you know, the craziness of spring.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
So we've got some trees and shrubs on sale.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
There are some a few selected perennials, tropical plants, uh,
sort of patiotropicals. There's no I don't think there's anything
going on in furniture besides the Nardi. But you can
save on things like ceramic containers or metal arbors and trellises,

(14:12):
so lots of things to sort of jazz up your garden.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Also, you know, if you've got.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
A spot that is open and you need it's a
little something to put in there. There, we've got some
trees and shrubs, So go to our website. There's a
specials page, yes, along with the photo galleries, and then
you can see exactly what's on sale. Sales generally turnover
on Friday, so that's when you would look to see

(14:38):
if there's something new. Also, there's often a Facebook link
that will point you to that page as well.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
You mentioned trees and shrubs, and that's one of those
this time of year, especially if you've kind of been
looking at you've had a little chance to assess the
property at a chance to you.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Know, stand out back and assess the acreage and you.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Go, you know what would look great right there? A
nice tree or a beautiful shrub. It's a good time
to be looking at those and putting those in the ground,
isn't it?

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Absolutely This time of year it is hot and sometimes dry. Sure,
and so when you're planting in the summer, you need
to be aware of the water needs of your plant
to get it to establish. So usually in the spring,
mother Nature's helping out with that. This time of year

(15:30):
that can be spotty, So you're going to want to
make sure that you are able to commit to giving
your new plants a good drink of water once a
week until the ground freezes so that they establish.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Okay, root stimulator when you're putting.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Those, and then yes, and roots stimulator is always a
good idea, but especially at this time of year, and
if you've planted things in the spring and you're noticing
that they're a little stressed, maybe leaves are turning yellow
and dropping that often happens on things like birches, is
then root stimulator is a good idea for those as well.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Okay, awesome, I'd say it's.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Super easy to use.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yeah, yeah, mix a little with the water and pour
it on the root area.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Are there do they make?

Speaker 2 (16:13):
And I know, I think I know the answers make
like hoses or other apparatus to add to the end
of your garden.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Hose that kind of give like a sh Sure.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
There are like soaker hoses, are you know?

Speaker 4 (16:23):
If you have a big garden, you can kind of
or if a line of they say our proviety that
you put in a big hedge or something like that,
you can wind that around. If you have those those
old school hoses that were flat with the holes, yeah,
just turn them upside down. Oh.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
The other thing to be aware of it this time.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Of year is that heat and the saltry weather encourages
fungal growth. So when you're watering, it's better to keep
the water close to the ground, not spray the foliage.
So if you need to use a sprinkler, maybe get
one of the ones that you know where you can
adjust the pattern of the flow, but the flow is low.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Okay do those Do they still make those little tractor sprinklers?
Remember those, like looked like a tractor and they Oh.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
No, Dave, My grandparents had one.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
It was on a hose, yes, and it's sort of
it sort of the hose kind of reeled it back.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, back to start.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
I haven't seen those in ages. My grandmother had one
of those with.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Your cast iron and they looked kind of.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
It was like on wheels, and she took it to
the end of the yard and she used the hose
to make the pattern, and it just sort of reeled
its way back on it.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Oh, that is such a weird memory. But yeah, I don't.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
We don't have those, and I haven't seen those for
a very long time, Okay.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
I I yeah, I haven't seen them any I wonder
if they just kind of fell out of favor or
if they just didn't work as it was.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Might have been one of those. They looked cool though,
that always seemed yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that stuff.
Let's go to the phones and John joins us. John,
welcome to the program. You're on their Lisa breaks from
the first company.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Hey, thanks taking the call. We have that red bud tree.
Don't asked me the variety. I remember what it was.
But anyways, it's been doing good. It's on the second year.
It's boomed both times, and leaves are great. But I've
noticed it on the main trunk a lot of small,
tiny vertical cracks go up and down the with the

(18:17):
grain of the tree. Is that something to be concerned
about it?

Speaker 3 (18:20):
It could be a couple of things.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
It could be frost cracking from last winter that they're
just showing themselves now, especially if it's vertical. Frost cracks
happen generally on the south or southwest side of the
of the trunk, And what happens is that in the winter,
the temperatures freeze at night and then get warmer. It

(18:43):
sort of stimulates the cell growth underneath, and then when
the night temps drop, the cells kind of burst and
it takes a little while for it to show itself.
Usually about this time of years when you would see them.
They'll heal themselves and so don't worry about it. The
other thing it might be is it just might be

(19:05):
that the it's reached the elasticity of the bark and
so it's starting to fissure and create its more mature characteristic.
Young plants have that really thin bark, and older plants
have you know, corky or bark and different patterns on

(19:25):
different things, and it just might be that it's at
that point. Either one is a normal situation. I will
say that red buds are a plant that does not
like drought. So make sure that even though this is
its second season, that you are watering it through this
really hot, drier part of the summer.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
Yeah, we've been doing it at night, you know, putting
a slow trickle on there.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah, once a good a good, a good soak once
a week will be sufficient.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
Okay, okay, okay, great, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
You're welcome.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I'm great.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Call my red button. They're those kind of like the
pinkish reddish.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Yeah, the sort of purply pink flowers that come out
before they leave out. They usually bloom late April early May,
and they're they like a shadier spot, so they're they're
an understory tree.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
People generally put them all over the.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Place, little harbinger of springtime.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Yeah, so just make sure, especially if you have one
in a spot that's that's more sunny than it would
like that you even if it's mature, you're going to
want us.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
You're going to want to water it through the growing season.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Great question, John, don't forget. We do this each and
every week. Lisa breaks from Bruce Company joins us each
every week at eight a m. Always great day to
get on in the Middleton Garden Center. If you've got questions,
they've got the plant desk there to help. Of course,
you stop on in twenty thirty part Mini Street. That's
twenty at thirty parm Interistreet. A lot of stuff going
on as well. Let's start off real quick talking. We
mentioned it last week, but you've got an upcoming blood drive.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Don't Yeah, so what you want to do that.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
We've got an outside company that's come into set up
at the store on August second.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
You can sign up online.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Just go to our events page Bruce Company dot com,
slash events and sign up for a spot. Oh no,
I'm sorry, you do it directly through the company. That's
right on this one. There's a QR code, So if
you go to the event, there is a QR code
on the event, so sign up that way, or you
can do walkins as well. Okay, but if you want

(21:26):
to schedule a time and not wait, they can accommodate that.
You're going to get a blooming plant as a thank
you from the Bruce Company, and then you're also going
to get an e gift card from the company that's
doing this a couple of days after after you give.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Blood fantastic, and again there's a QR code for that
and all the great information available to you.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Speaking of you mentioned the events.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
Page, then did put a bunch of events last week
I think event event on.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
The Facebook page. So I've got.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Through the end of October, which is basically through.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
The Autumn Artisan Fair.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
Okay, I'll be working on the holiday ones probably by
the end of the month.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Those that just take some more planning. I have to
make sure that.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
You know that I've got them all covered as far
as who's leading the sessions and sort of spread them
evenly through November and December.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yes, a lot of planning goes into that stuff. And
as we talk about great stuff going on at the
Bruce Company, it's always good. Stop by the website Bruce
Company dot com of course Facebook and social media and
keep up to date right on their Facebook and social
media pages. Just type in the Bruce Company. Even better,
you want to know the best thing to do, it's
to get on into the Middleton Garnser at the Bruce
Company right at twenty eight thirty param Innis Street. That's

(22:48):
twenty at thirty Partment Street. They'd love to see your
smiling face, Lisa. That's always great to see you. Enjoy
this great, fantastic day you as well. Shine news comes
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The Breakfast Club

The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, And Charlamagne Tha God!

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