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morning is the owner of Edge Construction, Mike two WEG. Mike,
how you been great, Sean. It's good to see you.
Great to talk with you. And we're going to talk
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kitchens and we're going to talk about kitchen trends. Things
to know about kitchens. When you started in, I know
we talk about kitchens, uh and really how they as
twice Yeah, for good reason. It's when we talk about
kitchens too, we talk about kind of how they are
used these days. Well, you started in construction where they
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was it. Were they used that way and maybe we
just didn't identify that use or were they maybe we
gathered in different areas. It was kind of a history there.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, I think like so I started it was about
nineteen ninety and we we thought we had all figured
out like that was houses were starting to open up,
like a few less walls downstairs. And uh, I remember
because because at that time we we built a house.
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We uh trimmed the house, we did the floors, we've
we kind of did it all and then uh and
and we put in the canvas and so at at
the end of the job. And I remember thinking this,
uh you know the breakfast bars. You remember the breakfast bars.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yes, it's kind of a kind of a peninsula, but
it had a high part. We thought that was like
you'd never have to change.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
You got you got like now a couple other people
can kind of can sort of be in the kitchen
with whoever's doing the cooking, probably and maybe the kids
could do homework up there. And it was kind of
the start of things. I think we still built soffits.
So oh, I've had a lot of people ask me, uh,
you know, what is the purpose of the soffit, and
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I say, I always say, you know, I don't know.
We got to the end of building the house, the
frame of the house, and somebody would say, oh, we
got to build the sofitson. So we built the sofits,
but we've never had any idea of why we built
the soffits. I think it was to say builders from
buying an extra foot twelve inches a year.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
And then actually, well.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
By the way is as we talked about taking soffits
out and that too. I know we haven't touched on
the soffits for a while. You mentioned kind of there's
really just kind of kind of wasted space, but there
there were like you guys were able to run things
and stuff. I mean there was some again, not certainly
the space didn't justify the use, but there were some
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things going on there sometimes.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yes, and as modeler, when your plan is to take
those softs out, but it's not like you can see
in there, right, you're hoping and praying there's nothing running
through there.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Here.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I really hope there's not a plumbing pipe or some
wiring or something. And I'm laughing because I remember the
first kitchen that I remodeled.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I think it was in Stoughton.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And I had to take the softs out, and sure enough,
there was a plumbing stack, a big four inch pipe
that came out and elbowed right into that saffat and
then went out the roof, and I'm like, what.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Do I do?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Lucky the plumber was talking me through. It wasn't as
big a deal as I thought. And it's somewhat rare
that we find, you know, maybe ten percent of the
time that we tear those softs out, we find things.
I probably have some pictures on my phone, have some
nightmare scenarios where electricians thought, oh, I'm just going to
use this as a chase to run wires upstairs and
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all the home runs. A home run in our world
means from the end user from an outlet, say in
a bathroom, where it's got to be a dedicated circuit,
all the way back down to your panel or the
breaker boxes.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
That's the home run.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And so when you find a home run where it's
not where it's inconvenient or it's not supposed to be mean,
it means you're disconnecting one end or the other and
refeeding all those wires so it can create some hasshole,
but nothing we're not used.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
To, and so kind of the the update and the
replacement for that is I've noticed a couple of solutions
for as get rid of sofits is either yeah, no,
there's nice little cabinets, thin cabinets that can fit there
and still have the same same height of cabinets, or
taller ones, which both seem to be just a much
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better use of space and they look better too.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I in my opinion, I think it's a really nice look,
and it looks like a finished look, and there's definitely
the majority of people now are saying I don't. I
don't have a shorter cabinet where dust just gets up there.
I feel like I have to clean it. Or I
think we've moved past the deal where people you would
would display things up there.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I remember a really popular thing was like an old
toffee grinder, or you know, there were there were like
antique things and maybe some glassword and some of that
stuff's cool. You know, we've done small farmhouses with ten
foot high ceilings and it's just like, okay, we're not
gonna put cabinets, you know, ten feet it's just ridiculous.
But you can still do some things up there, and
it is a nice look without the soffit. Plus I
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was so just from a purely construction standpoint.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
So you build those soffits.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I remember many times building these soffits, and then you'd
put in the cabinets and the reveal. So that's like
from the from the crown of the cabinet to the
corner beat on the on the soffit would be one
inch over here, and maybe a half inch over here
and three quarters over here, and then we're always going, okay,
now what do we do? Like getting those soffits exactly
right and figuring in your corner beat and having it
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all have the same reveal all the way around is
real pain.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
So going all the way is much better options.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
And Okay, you're not going to put things like your
your normal everyday you stuff up there.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Your cereal bowl's not going up there.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
So I always thought it'd be cool to have one
of those like rolling ladders for some people, like a
library ladder that could go around these cabinets.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Maybe that would be all. If anybody wants to do that,
I know a guy. We'll put one of those in
there before you go. That's the thing. When you mentioned
about about kind of fitting that in, because I guess
my my thinking was always well, soffits would be used
to kind of unify the the height over the over
the countertop, not so that created its own level of
of of angles and heights and things are am I yeah, yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Then you know, if you if you want to modify things,
if you want to change things, you're having to modify
at soffit.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
So it's it's a.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It's a it's a historical thing. Now soafits are going
heading to the museum. Yeah, I mean as soon as
I say that, I I do run into some we'll
say I really like the look, and I'm not you know,
taking a shot at you or at all if.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
You like that look, and and I.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Don't know, you can't just assume that everything is it's
a one size fits all, right, Sure.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I get one of the things I noticed when I
do see soffits still and like a kitchen that looks
a little bit newer. Is I almost noticed that that
soawfits and like painted like like uh, I don't know
if they're like bringing like like somebody did like a
partial kitchen upgrade, like bought themselves ale extra time, like
they kind of go ahead and as let's talk a
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little bit about that about I get and you know,
as a homeowner and as as somebody that like us,
all have a budget, I can see why that might
seem appealing to them. But it's really not not as
easy and not as long term effective as I think
people people.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
May may believe. I blame Martha Stewart. Yeah. Actually, you know,
I don't know who.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Started this trend, but you know, it does it does
buy you like but generally when we're looking at okay,
you know, once in a while.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So we did one a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Is actually a very very nice house up in Bishops Bay,
right on the lake and the houses the cabinets sort
of didn't fit the house. They were I don't see
a weird stain, but they were kind of a I
don't know, it just was an awkward color. Let's say,
beautiful cabinets. Whoever initially put them in did not spare dollars.
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I mean they were built really well, had great hardware.
And the new homeowner that that bought this we did
a lot of we'remodeling in this house or there for
many months.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
But uh, that's that's one of the one of.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
The times when painting him really made sense, and so
we we had a third party contractor that specialized in
that because it's not just okay, grab a paintbrush and
that might value a few years, but it doesn't wear well. Okay,
So we needed a longer term solution where we did
new tops, new backsplash, we updated electrical in there. We
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actually had to make a few cabinets to change a
few things that didn't make sense in the cabints. So
I think we made half a dozen cabinets, matched up
door styles to the old door style, painted all of
the old cabinets, got to look that everybody was after,
and that really made sense. But a lot of times
when homers asked me, okay, isn't an option to paint
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these cabinets or reface these cabinets, well, most of the
time they were something that a builder put in twenty
thirty years ago. It was sort of the polar opposite there,
thin will boxes, cheap hardware. It's like, okay, to do
this right, it's not just paint everything. It's replaced all
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the hardware. Probably got some doors that are falling apart
or getting loose, By the time you do all that,
you're not far away from buying new cabinets that are
actually a good cabinet that's going to last a long.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I know you really appreciate classic cars as you're talking
about some of sometimes the different paints I think of.
I've been at car shows where you'll see a car
off in the distance and it'll look really, really nice,
and then you get closer and you're like, oh goodness,
they literally just kind of painted over the problems. And
you see that in kitchens as well.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
You do, yeah, you do.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I mean, like one of us said, dot which one said,
you know, it buys you sometime. So I think like
when a kitchen is at the end of its life,
it's the finishes starting to look really rough. You do
a nice job of painting, A homeowner can paint them,
and you're going to you're gonna buy some time.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
You might get yourself another five years. Who knows. Maybe
that puts you in a.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Spot where you can do a remodel in that kitchen,
and it probably gets you thinking about the layout and
some other things. There's times that we've tried to save
cabinets and I get suckered in once in a while,
and when we start pulling these things apart, it's almost
always a mistake. I but the trouble is, you know,
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none of us want to be wasteful, and we're looking
at it. At first glance, you're thinking, you know, these
don't let you bad. You know, they look like they're salvageable.
But like anything, once you empty them out, once you
pull them away from the wall, it's like, oh boy,
now we got a problem. So, by the way, the
paint car thing, now, not all of us can afford
a really great paint shot. But I do have a
friend that actually painted his old truck with a roller.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Okay, it looks like.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Way, but you know it's what you could afford at
the time. We still hassle about.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
That, as you should. Talking this morning with Mike two Ek,
owner of edge Construction, the website edge Construction Company dot com.
That's all one word, Edge Construction Company dot com. Well,
we're talking than Mike about painted cabinets. Obviously, painted cabinets
are a very popular option for folks. There's a significant
difference between uh, taking your cabinets and painting them at
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home versus getting cabinets that are manufactured and painted at
the at the facility, the type and I know you've
talked about this, the type of procedures in control they
have at the at the at the place they build
those cabinets just can't be replicated out in the real world.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
It's pretty tough. I mean it's when they're doing it.
Like I've been to our great Northern which up in
rag Blake there and watch their paint process and how
it goes from you know, one cabinet will go to
three or four stations. So this is a there is
a process of painting, not just like spray cabinet, throwing
a box and send it off. And when you start
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h this this this the chemistry behind paint now has
changed a lot and there are things that people that
are combining and react. They react together and produce the
end product that you want. Yeah, how would you how
would you replicate that? Uh in a garage shop or
or painting in place to do it? So like it's
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that's why I say, you've got a way. All these
options are my cabinets can good enough shape to do
this is it does make a lot of sense. And
then for us it makes quite a difference because in
a really good paint process with great product, those cabins
are more durable. And we know that those cabins are
going to come out of truck, They're gonna go through
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our shop, We're gonna take them out in a trailer
to a job. We got in box and move around
get them in. They're around during a construction process, and
so if we get to the end and have to
repaint in the field or do too much touch up
in the veal, we try to protect them as much
as we can. A lot of that is based on
the process that get used and when they were first painted.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You mentioned that word durable, and it's funny say I
jotted down durability because I feel like when it comes
to and we'll get into other areas of kitchen remodeling
and we'll get into some of the trends as well.
But as we talk about cabinets, is I don't know
that people fully appreciate what a quality cabinet or any
cabinet for that matter, endures. But how well quality and
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how durable quality cabinets or in the right finish and
the right everything, how well they perform. I think if
you have good cabinets, you tend to take that stuff
for granted, don't you?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You do?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
And I think the hard part of this for homeowner
is when you at first install, if you have a
talented carpenter installing these cabinets, you can take on one
end of the scale a cheaper power board cabinet, install it,
and you're putting in a great cabinet right next to it.
You may not be able to tell a much difference.
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It's like it's got to stand the test of time
a little bit, it's got to have you know, maybe
there's maybe there's life happens to these things a little bit.
And so yeah, we have had other suppliers in the past,
or I've seen other cabinets in the past where I go,
I can you can almost tell that they're trying to
cheapen up the operation, right, it's trying to save some
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pennies here and there, and these finishes get.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Thinner and thinner and thinner.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But like I said, first glance, right of the box,
they're gonna and and especially installed, you're not gonna be
able to tell that.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
You know, you're not gonna be able to tell. Oh,
have you ever boughten a cheap piece of furniture.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Like there's a four letter not a four letter it
is a four letter word, but not that four letter word.
A certain place that everything comes flat.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yes, yes, yeah, what are your expectations when you're are
you thinking this thing is gonna last thirty years.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
If it makes it? If it makes it for the
term of that lease, if I remember, be a blessing.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, and uh, by the same token, I go, well,
I remember my grandma bought Ethan l and like the
dining room furniture, Yes, I don't have it. My mom's
got it because she's like, you know, this stuff is
still in great shat.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I don't have to now you know it shouldn't last
that long.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
But but you know, the process that that that went through,
uh to make that piece of furniture is is different
than the ice something.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
And it's the same with cabins. Same with cabins.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
If there's a if there's a little he's key that's
illustrating how to put the thing together, it's yeah. And
again nothing against them, by the way that it's affordable.
And I mentioned you know, if you're a renter, something
that's kind of a perfect.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I have friends who are not carpenters that love watching
videos online of people that are just really talented furniture makers,
and you know there's a huge difference between machine and right.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
That kind of brings us to to like what you
look at when it comes to a cabinet, like to
an untrained eye, I'll use my eye. I think a
lot of cabinets look pretty similar. I'm not going to
be able to tell you you bring me two of
them if they're both brand new, I'm gonna look at
them and like, oh, those look very very nice, because
they do look very very nice. What do you look for, Mike,
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when you're choosing, like a quality cabinet, saying this is
something that's going to last a while.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Well, you know, before we got the Great Northern Supplier,
you know, we have an option that's local for custom
things and we use them once in a while, and
then our main spire was Welburn Forest and nothing nothing
against them. Well with Welden Forest is a very standard cabinet,
standard how it's made. We we they will they make
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us a plywood box, which is important to me, and
they make a they make it the way we we
like it, and it reaches the price point. It's still
a good cabinet. It's still in our lineup, but more
and more the Great Northern Cabinet has taken over because
and one of the reasons is, you know, these things
show up. They look like Ethan Allen Furnisure. They look
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like I don't know if that's a brand that's still
around even, but they're they're when you take out of
the boxes a carpet, you know, it's different. And when
I went and watched their manufacturing, I understood why because
probably because it's in Northern Wisconsin, it's still a very
hands on process, where I know the rest of the
industry is now a semi pulls up with plywood, a
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some it pulls up with with some of the hardwoods. Uh,
they have laser it checks the straightness of things, that
lays out things. A CNC machine. You know, you're more
of a you're managing through a computer screen the building
of the cabinet rather than hands on. Whereas when I
went to Red Lake, it took me like three days
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in a sleigh to get there.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
But there's like eight people.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
That handle that cabinet before it goes in a box,
and even to the point of how they put it
in the box and how they protect it. It's a
there's a reason that we're just you know, moving towards
that cabinet. We like anything, we're slow to move, Like
I'm a loyal guy. I don't want to just jump
and have the same problem somewhere else. So but over
the few years that we've we've now had them. You know,
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it's it's quite the majority of our stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
You mentioned the packaging and how they're shipped. There's got
to be nothing worse than opening up as I think
as as anybody ever opened up a package. And you're like, well,
especially for something like that, right.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Well, and you know you mentioned that like the Amazon
thing where you open a box. Now you go, you
open a big box and find another box, right mm hmm.
It's like and you know that that box is just
bouncing around in that bigger box.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
That's kind of that way with cabinets. Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
When I when we open the Ribake boxes, the Great
Northern cabinets, it's very tight packaging. Anything like, what does
that matter? Well if we buy any other cabinets a
little bit looser packaging when when that is in the truck,
that cardboard actually will rub the finish and change the
look of it and there's times that we have to
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do repairs on things like that, and so all in all,
I don't know I should get a commission from Right
Northern probably, but it's been a it's been a great
move for us.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
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four to three that number six three six Edge talking
this week about remodeling trends when it comes to the kitchen.
Although this is the first segment, we really just talked
a lot about cabinets. For good and goodness, when you
think about a kitchen, the cabinets are just such a
big part of it. It does bring me though to pantries,
and I feel like pantries have made a comeback as
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like more than just a place to kind of put
your dry goods. Like, like I've seen some of the
pantries you guys have done at Edge Construction, and I'm like,
this is these are nicer than my studio apartment I
had when I was in my twenties. Is that is
that being reflected? Is that becoming a more common thing
of really upgraded pantry?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Hey, it comes up in the conversation because, like like
I said, when we first started doing these, just having
kind of a smaller reach in a washkin pantry was
kind of a big deal. And I mean like now
we've been able to do somewhere, We've expanded a kitchen
got a nice it's like a kitchenette almost. We have
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one that's in construction right now where the pantry will
have you know, it's two barn doors.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
You open up.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
The pantry is about ten feet long, about five feet wide,
so it's got a row of cabinets, bet fridge on
one end, built in microwave on the other.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
And homeowners are going, you know what we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
We want our coffeemaker, we want our the toaster or
whatever it can be there. But they're also like, they're
not a space where you would traditionally think that it
would be attractive, but you're alluded to that. Where this
one's going to have, you know, a nice BackFlash tile,
it's got under cap lighting, it's got probably one or
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two free standing shelves. I think the jury is still out.
We might do a big mirror in between the upper cabinets,
just as sort of as an element of you know,
to be attractive in there.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
And you know, it's fun. It's really become a design element.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
And I'm amazed, you know, when we build this stuff,
I'm like, oh, this is really cool.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
But then I see.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Homeowners doing things like you know, just the creative storage solutions.
I mean there's there's a lot of cool stuff out
there that is really attractive to store, things like that
you use in a kitchen every day. And so when
we do a bunch of open shells in a pantry,
I think, okay, if that was Mike or Sean, we
just have like cereal boxes piled up there.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
That's not what's going up there.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
One of the things that I and along those same lines,
that I find very impressive about about the pantries that
you guys have been doing is they're very functional and
and you mentioned just kind of like, you know, the
cereal box thing. They don't none of them seem because
like for me, my temptation would be a cluttered space.
They are so well designed that they that they have
this really kind of feeling to them that that you're
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not cluttered, You're not you don't feel clusterphobic. It's like,
and I even think of that. I remember one of
you guys did not too long ago. It had that
really nice frosted glass door on it and just really
made the space and you know, places to set some
of those you know, blenders and other things.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
I thought that is.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Just a really really really good, really glady but a lot.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Of thought and design spaces. They really are.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, there was there was one we were able to
incorporate a window that was already there into that space.
There's just a I think when you you get this
sort of marriage between UH designers and UH homer where
they're there, they let the ideas flow and then you know,
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you add in the CAD capabilities that we have now
and so like you can design these things and really
get a good feel for what it's going to look
like and how it's going to feel.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Is there some and obviously there's a trade off, you know,
it is space and that I mentioned the use of
CAD and design is that's the thing where you think about,
like how you guys are able to really maximize the
usefulness of that space with again still making it feel
very open and very very inviting. It's it's very very cool.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
There are some houses that really lend to it too.
I'm thinking about a plan that was really popular in
the eighties and nineties. It on the backside of the house.
You'd start off in the corner with a dining room
that was a lot of times too small to be
really feasible, really usable, and then the kitchen would be
kind of in the middle, and then you've got another
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space with maybe a table and walking out on a
paddy door.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
And it just was a super common design.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
And several times we've we've taken maybe half of that
tiny dining room sort of on the end of the
house and made that the pantry space, expanded the kitchen,
so now we got a little bigger kitchen. Got rid
of some corners in the kitchen, so we got rid
of those corner cabinets, get the island in there, and
all of a sudden, this thing really works.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Corners are the enemy.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
We just don't like to.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Corners they do, cause they do cause a lot of
I think anybody that's had a cabinet over the years
in that corner and they're like, what do you do
with that area?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
You need to hide something, you just put it back
in that corner cabinet.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
That is true. Talking this morning with Mike two eight,
owner of Edge Construction, the website Edge Construction Company dot com.
That's all one word Edge Construction Company dot com. Talking
number six So eight six three six three three four
three that number six three six Edge talking kitchen remodeling
trends to talk about and we'll continue to continue more
on the kitchen. We will do all of that. Next
(25:53):
is the Homer Modeling Show with Edge Construction continues right
here thirteen ten leu ib eight. This is the Homer
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Construction Company dot com. That's all one word, Edge Construction
Company dot Com. I feel like the last two things
we've talked about, we're talking kitchen trends and design trends.
(26:14):
But we started off talking about cabinets and then we
started talking about pantries, and I feel like each of
those like very easily we could do an entire show
on we were talking, and I do want to ask
you a little bit more about pantries, pantry space and
the design that goes into it. Obviously, if you've got
a lot of room, pantries are certainly something that you
(26:35):
can do, but even for smaller spaces, and I've seen
kind of some of the some of the projects you
guys have done at Edge Construction over the years almost
like kind of like making use of like almost like
I don't call it a nook or like a way
to like really maximize space, to kind of make it
it's not a full on you know, it's not like
a walk in pantry. But you guys build things for
(26:57):
all different types of kitchen in different spaces.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, and I think it's really important to utilize any
weird niche space especially. Can you just never have enough
of that kind of space. Okay, a kitchen has to
have all the cooking utensils, right, but where do you
store all the other stuff, all the extra stuff, all
the all the cans of things, all the boxes of things,
(27:24):
and so you know, there there's times where houses just
aren't made for that, right, a pantry that's in the
kitchen or right next to the kitchen. And we've got
you know, home owners, this this this talk with homeowners
leads to well, listen, we've got a closet over here
that we yeah, it's right not right next to the kitchen,
but can we build this and build it out with
(27:45):
shelves so that we can have that kind of storage
somewhere in our house. I mean, it's not like that
big a deal to walk over and get your things,
at least least some of your stuff. And it's it's
I think what people generally are trying to get get
away from is packing these cabinets like to the top
and all like so that you know, you can't even
really see what's in there when when you've got full
(28:06):
so full of stuff. So I think the trend is
towards more organization. One byproduct of that is maybe you
can't get quite as many things in those cabinets, but
people seem to be okay with that. Maybe pairing down
if we can get the storage somewhere.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Have we been able to We started this conversation you
talking about softs and getting rid of them. I know
one of the things that you guys are often installing
is kind of like these Florida ceiling kind of pantry areas.
That type of thing also can really really help maximize
usable space, can't it.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, And if we don't have that walk in or
reach in closet, we're trying to design something that like
that in because you.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Know, we know people need this kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, And you can do quite a bit with one
of those just it's called a utility cabinet or a
tall cabinet, and it's it's it's very helpful to have
one of those.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
In your kitchen if possible.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And on the rare occasion that we can't get any
of those things in.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
You know, we do our best, but like I said,
usually there's there's some creative option with homers with the.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
With with cabinets too, and we talked about painted painted
cabinets and other other areas. As far as trends, the
other thing that's becoming very popular is is having a
couple kind of feature cabinets that have the glass. And
how does that work? Like like when you guys are
installing them, and I got a picture in front of
me and there's just some white, white cabinets and then
(29:28):
there's a couple of them that have the glass in it.
Are those are those type of things custom built or
are you able to order those from the manufacturer or
is it a little of both or.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
So how we do it is we order from the
manufacturer and it's called PFG.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Do you you have any I guess.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Pre fabricated glass?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Prep for glass up pretty close?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Okay, And so what prep for glass means is the
center section of that door is not going to be
in it's not going to be in there. They're going
to leave that open for us, but they're gonna if
it's a painted white cabinet. They're gonna paint the inside
of the cabinet white. So if you if you put
a clear glass option on there, you look in, it
looks finished if you and then we have our local uh,
(30:11):
I'll give a plug to Todd at mid Wisconsin Glass.
He does most of the glass in town. It's really
great to work with. It's literally so simple. As we
pull the doors off, give them the Todd he brings
it back with glass in him, and he offers us
a ton of options. I mean there's there's the clear glass,
there's smoky, there's you know, there there's rain glass, there's
(30:33):
there's like fifty different types of glass.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
You like, you get like textures like oh.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, definitely, yeah really, and so a lot of that
stuff nice. And then you know, occasionally we'll do a
you know, we'll do it. We'll do like an led
Eu rope in there, something that gives a little bit
of background.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Like all that stuff can add to the look of
that kitchen.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I like the you know, in the right spot, the
glass cabinets I think make a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
They yeah, they do look I think as you mentioned
the right spot, like not all them, but just one
or two here. They're that kind of kind of design.
Probably is Todd, the same guy that does your your
shower glass. And by the way, just if you get
a chance to, well you're at edge Construction Company dot com.
As we're talking kitchens this week, check out those bathrooms
as well. It's really really cool work they do at
edge Construction. As we talked this morning with my two
(31:18):
egg of edge Construction the website edge Construction Company dot com.
That's Edge Construction Company dot com. The number six so
eight six three six three three four three that number
six three six Edge appliances And we talked about some
of the smaller ones, the stuff you plug in and
you know, you know you want to store. What about
the bigger ones, the ones that are always plugged in,
are always connected. I know that there are certain people
(31:40):
that are really good at certain things in the kitchen
and they want types of appliances they want whether it's
a you know, a oven that's got multiple oven doors, yes, yes,
but you.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Know, see a double or you know there's stuff other
combinations too. You can have it can look like a
double oven and we can you know, we'll we'll put
in the big cabinet for it and and cut the
opening and make it ready. But it could one could
be an oven and the other one could be a
convection or the other one. Or it could be an
oven with a microwave built in microwave on top, or
or like you said at a double even have you
(32:21):
if one of the cool products out now is is induction?
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Right? And you check? You're not checking me once?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah? And so I looked at they are. That is
an amazing technology.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
My first view of it was maybe a few years ago.
And when I go to the National Biller Show, they'll
have okay, if there if your son appliances, you're not
going to just have appliance and you're going to have
a chef there making things on appliances and that's cool kitchen,
and uh literally they would put a son induction. It
looks like a glass cooked top, and it is a
(32:55):
glass cooked top, but the heat gets transferred through to
anything magnetic. So if you have a stainless still wedding ring,
I wouldn't recommend putting your ring on there and turning
this burner on.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Because it's going to heat up like super fast.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
And you but they were it's it is, so I
don't have any personal experience with it other than seeing
it and seeing customers and talking to our customers. But uh,
you can put a pot of water on the on
the cook top. Induction is supposed to get it boiling
much faster because it's this super efficient transfer of energy.
(33:28):
So if you're if you're cooking something with something on there,
like you you're boiling water. You I was watching the
chef at the show go pull the pull the boiling
pot of water off. Put his hand immediately on the
glass cook top. It's not hot because the the energy
goes only to the pan.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
So compare this to pretty much anything else and think about, okay,
we're if you if anybody can get their power usage down,
it's it's it pays off in your wallet, right, So
more efficient appliances. This to me is brilliant because if
you're cooking with gas, it's something like seventy percent of
(34:08):
the energy of the heat just gets lost out into
your house, which is probably fine this time year, but
if it's ninety degrees in July, no, I don't know
how great that'd be. And plus, you know you're you're
there is a thing where you're you know you you
want you want good into or air quality.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
It's hard to do with gas appliances.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
So induction has has has really jumped a level, uh
to where it's great to cook on. It's safe for
your kids a little safer, right, You're.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
They can still touch the hot pot, sure and.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Get burned, but you know if they if it's it's
not like having a stove that's hot with nothing on
it and somebody puts their hand on it.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Are So, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
And and the efficiency part of it, to me is
just a huge gain. I mean, obviously it has to
work well, but makes a lot of sense to me.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Are we seeing the big manufacturers get on board with
the we are?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
And uh, you know it depends on you know, all
these appliances have levels like that that.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
It seems like mid level. Now I'm not.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I don't know how I feel about this because when
I when I plug an appliance, I don't really want
to have to hook it up to my phone do
an app to that blah blah.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Yeah, but you mentioned to that. Love it is now.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I think on the lower end some of it is offered,
but definitely in the mid to high range you can
have your oven warm it up you know, turn it
on before you leave work so it's hot when you
get home. I literally will ask you, are you going
to make a pizza?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
You know whatever they have built in meatmoters they have
there's a bunch of cool stuff on here, and you
know we could go on it on on that one.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
What thing to with the induction? Do those require any
special Obviously there's there's there's wiring. Is there anything Is
it require higher voltage or amperage or I'm talking like
I know what I'm saying that.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
It really doesn't.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
It's a it's a very normal hookup, just like you
would do for any other appliance.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
And so.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I I really like where that tech has gone. By
the way, now we built a house next summer, very
nice house in the country. The fridge that we put
in there, uh, sort of acts as the hub for
all of the other appliants. Like you can you can
connect or there's someone who can connect on their on
(36:29):
their app, on their WiFi or Bluetooth and see however
manage their appliances. They can also be at the store
and look into their Now you're really just yes, you can.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
You can.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
You can look by camera into your fridge and say, oh,
I'm really getting low on milk.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Wow, I think I'll get some of these some.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
That that if you use all of the tech available
on that you know you it can be your running list,
it can be and your your your kids can check
in when you get home and send you a note.
It's it's pretty amazing tech.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
That is some really really cool stuff. As we talked
this week with Mike two Weeg, owner of Edge Construction.
The website Edge Construction Company dot com. That's all one
word Edge Construction Company dot com. Thinking about doing a
kitchen remodel. They'd love to talk with you at Edge.
I got to just pick up phone, give a call
six O eight six three six three three four three.
That number so easy, remember it's six three six Edge.
Of course, Edge Construction brings you the Homer Modeling Show
(37:20):
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six O eight six three six three three four to three.
That number six three six Edge talking about some really
(37:42):
cool trends for kitchens and having your kitchen room model. Then, Mike,
you were telling me during the break about uh and
I did not even know this type of technology existed,
and now that you're telling me about it, I am amazed.
Let's talk about some of the new things when it
comes to counter tops and electronics.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
We saw this at the Bill Show last year and it's, uh,
it's basically, how do I describe this? So you so
the your your your cap, your count top manufacturer has
to be on board. And we've two of our suppliers
are now offering this to us, and we just got
the got the uh the demo for it in our
(38:25):
in our showroom and now we can show you how
this works. Basically, they wrote her out a area maybe
a one foot area underneath the count top sort of
sort of thin out the contop right there. A unit
mounts underneath there that charges things. And literally what they
tell us is you can and I've seen it demonstrated.
You can put your laptop there, you can put your
phone there, no cords, you just set it on topic.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
I know, Sean, is this is dying right now.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Anything your your your ear, your ear buzz pretty much
anything that can be charged is rechargeable.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
You can lay on top of the car top.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
They have really cool features like you can have it.
It's it's not like an X Okay, put things here.
You can slide your front across when it when it
gets in over the magical location, a little led kind
of comes through that car tops un lets you know
where you're at.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
It's very cool stuff.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I'm gonna build a blender that just sits and it
runs right. No course, charge, don't drill batteries. Start seeing
those in the edge trucks. Yeah, very very cool. And
and by the way, as we talk with Mike, and
I consider myself to be a pretty sharp on technology,
but you don't know what you don't know. And that's
one of those fun things about working with Mike and
(39:40):
the team and Edge Construction. You're gonna say, I, I say.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Do you have USB outlets in your house? I do? Okay, yeah,
how great?
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Are they? Right? Well?
Speaker 1 (39:48):
And that's because you know, is finding chargers and then
your your bricks disappear and it's like, yeah, we've got
just the one.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
The other thing is most of the USB outlets are
smart chargers, so like they don't keep charging your phone
when it's when it's full. Yeah, Whereas if you've noticed,
you know, if you plug into your car a lot
of times, maybe it's gotten better with newer cars.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I don't. I don't have a new car right now, but.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
It gets hot, right it keeps keep going even though
it's even though it's at one hundred percent, and so
I I they're they're very handy, very nice, a lot
cleaner than having to Okay, you still have a quord,
but but you don't have to necessarily find, you know, everything.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
There are amazing things out there, and that's far part
of the journey, and it's fart part of the fun
of working with Edge Construction not only beautiful kitchens, but
very functional in having the latest and greatest options to you.
A great day. To start that conversation, I got to
just pick a phone, give a call six so eight
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three six Edge and Mike I they're gonna have to
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(40:51):
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E d G E. And joining us in studio this
morning is the owner of Edge Construction, Mike two WEG. Mike,
how you been great, Sean. It's good to see you.
Great to talk with you. And we're going to talk
(00:45):
kitchens and we're going to talk about kitchen trends. Things
to know about kitchens. When you started in, I know
we talk about kitchens, uh and really how they as
twice Yeah, for good reason. It's when we talk about
kitchens too, we talk about kind of how they are
used these days. Well, you started in construction where they
(01:07):
was it. Were they used that way and maybe we
just didn't identify that use or were they maybe we
gathered in different areas. It was kind of a history there.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, I think like so I started it was about
nineteen ninety and we we thought we had all figured
out like that was houses were starting to open up,
like a few less walls downstairs. And uh, I remember
because because at that time we we built a house.
(01:36):
We uh trimmed the house, we did the floors, we've
we kind of did it all and then uh and
and we put in the canvas and so at at
the end of the job. And I remember thinking this,
uh you know the breakfast bars. You remember the breakfast bars.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yes, it's kind of a kind of a peninsula, but
it had a high part. We thought that was like
you'd never have to change.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
You got you got like now a couple other people
can kind of can sort of be in the kitchen
with whoever's doing the cooking, probably and maybe the kids
could do homework up there. And it was kind of
the start of things. I think we still built soffits.
So oh, I've had a lot of people ask me, uh,
you know, what is the purpose of the soffit, and
(02:16):
I say, I always say, you know, I don't know.
We got to the end of building the house, the
frame of the house, and somebody would say, oh, we
got to build the sofitson. So we built the sofits,
but we've never had any idea of why we built
the soffits. I think it was to say builders from
buying an extra foot twelve inches a year.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
And then actually, well.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
By the way is as we talked about taking soffits
out and that too. I know we haven't touched on
the soffits for a while. You mentioned kind of there's
really just kind of kind of wasted space, but there
there were like you guys were able to run things
and stuff. I mean there was some again, not certainly
the space didn't justify the use, but there were some
(02:57):
things going on there sometimes.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yes, and as modeler, when your plan is to take
those softs out, but it's not like you can see
in there, right, you're hoping and praying there's nothing running
through there.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Here.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I really hope there's not a plumbing pipe or some
wiring or something. And I'm laughing because I remember the
first kitchen that I remodeled.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I think it was in Stoughton.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And I had to take the softs out, and sure enough,
there was a plumbing stack, a big four inch pipe
that came out and elbowed right into that saffat and
then went out the roof, and I'm like, what.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Do I do?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Lucky the plumber was talking me through. It wasn't as
big a deal as I thought. And it's somewhat rare
that we find, you know, maybe ten percent of the
time that we tear those softs out, we find things.
I probably have some pictures on my phone, have some
nightmare scenarios where electricians thought, oh, I'm just going to
use this as a chase to run wires upstairs and
(03:54):
all the home runs. A home run in our world
means from the end user from an outlet, say in
a bathroom, where it's got to be a dedicated circuit,
all the way back down to your panel or the
breaker boxes.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
That's the home run.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And so when you find a home run where it's
not where it's inconvenient or it's not supposed to be mean,
it means you're disconnecting one end or the other and
refeeding all those wires so it can create some hasshole,
but nothing we're not used.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
To, and so kind of the the update and the
replacement for that is I've noticed a couple of solutions
for as get rid of sofits is either yeah, no,
there's nice little cabinets, thin cabinets that can fit there
and still have the same same height of cabinets, or
taller ones, which both seem to be just a much
(04:42):
better use of space and they look better too.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I in my opinion, I think it's a really nice look,
and it looks like a finished look, and there's definitely
the majority of people now are saying I don't. I
don't have a shorter cabinet where dust just gets up there.
I feel like I have to clean it. Or I
think we've moved past the deal where people you would
would display things up there.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I remember a really popular thing was like an old
toffee grinder, or you know, there were there were like
antique things and maybe some glassword and some of that
stuff's cool. You know, we've done small farmhouses with ten
foot high ceilings and it's just like, okay, we're not
gonna put cabinets, you know, ten feet it's just ridiculous.
But you can still do some things up there, and
it is a nice look without the soffit. Plus I
(05:27):
was so just from a purely construction standpoint.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
So you build those soffits.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I remember many times building these soffits, and then you'd
put in the cabinets and the reveal. So that's like
from the from the crown of the cabinet to the
corner beat on the on the soffit would be one
inch over here, and maybe a half inch over here
and three quarters over here, and then we're always going, okay,
now what do we do? Like getting those soffits exactly
right and figuring in your corner beat and having it
(05:55):
all have the same reveal all the way around is
real pain.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
So going all the way is much better options.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
And Okay, you're not going to put things like your
your normal everyday you stuff up there.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Your cereal bowl's not going up there.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
So I always thought it'd be cool to have one
of those like rolling ladders for some people, like a
library ladder that could go around these cabinets.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Maybe that would be all. If anybody wants to do that,
I know a guy. We'll put one of those in
there before you go. That's the thing. When you mentioned
about about kind of fitting that in, because I guess
my my thinking was always well, soffits would be used
to kind of unify the the height over the over
the countertop, not so that created its own level of
of of angles and heights and things are am I yeah, yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Then you know, if you if you want to modify things,
if you want to change things, you're having to modify
at soffit.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
So it's it's a.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It's a it's a historical thing. Now soafits are going
heading to the museum. Yeah, I mean as soon as
I say that, I I do run into some we'll
say I really like the look, and I'm not you know,
taking a shot at you or at all if.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
You like that look, and and I.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Don't know, you can't just assume that everything is it's
a one size fits all, right, Sure.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I get one of the things I noticed when I
do see soffits still and like a kitchen that looks
a little bit newer. Is I almost noticed that that
soawfits and like painted like like uh, I don't know
if they're like bringing like like somebody did like a
partial kitchen upgrade, like bought themselves ale extra time, like
they kind of go ahead and as let's talk a
(07:35):
little bit about that about I get and you know,
as a homeowner and as as somebody that like us,
all have a budget, I can see why that might
seem appealing to them. But it's really not not as
easy and not as long term effective as I think
people people.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
May may believe. I blame Martha Stewart. Yeah. Actually, you know,
I don't know who.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Started this trend, but you know, it does it does
buy you like but generally when we're looking at okay,
you know, once in a while.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So we did one a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Is actually a very very nice house up in Bishops Bay,
right on the lake and the houses the cabinets sort
of didn't fit the house. They were I don't see
a weird stain, but they were kind of a I
don't know, it just was an awkward color. Let's say,
beautiful cabinets. Whoever initially put them in did not spare dollars.
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I mean they were built really well, had great hardware.
And the new homeowner that that bought this we did
a lot of we'remodeling in this house or there for
many months.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
But uh, that's that's one of the one of.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
The times when painting him really made sense, and so
we we had a third party contractor that specialized in
that because it's not just okay, grab a paintbrush and
that might value a few years, but it doesn't wear well. Okay,
So we needed a longer term solution where we did
new tops, new backsplash, we updated electrical in there. We
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actually had to make a few cabinets to change a
few things that didn't make sense in the cabints. So
I think we made half a dozen cabinets, matched up
door styles to the old door style, painted all of
the old cabinets, got to look that everybody was after,
and that really made sense. But a lot of times
when homers asked me, okay, isn't an option to paint
(09:28):
these cabinets or reface these cabinets, well, most of the
time they were something that a builder put in twenty
thirty years ago. It was sort of the polar opposite there,
thin will boxes, cheap hardware. It's like, okay, to do
this right, it's not just paint everything. It's replaced all
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the hardware. Probably got some doors that are falling apart
or getting loose, By the time you do all that,
you're not far away from buying new cabinets that are
actually a good cabinet that's going to last a long.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I know you really appreciate classic cars as you're talking
about some of sometimes the different paints I think of.
I've been at car shows where you'll see a car
off in the distance and it'll look really, really nice,
and then you get closer and you're like, oh goodness,
they literally just kind of painted over the problems. And
you see that in kitchens as well.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
You do, yeah, you do.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I mean, like one of us said, dot which one said,
you know, it buys you sometime. So I think like
when a kitchen is at the end of its life,
it's the finishes starting to look really rough. You do
a nice job of painting, A homeowner can paint them,
and you're going to you're gonna buy some time.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
You might get yourself another five years. Who knows. Maybe
that puts you in a.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Spot where you can do a remodel in that kitchen,
and it probably gets you thinking about the layout and
some other things. There's times that we've tried to save
cabinets and I get suckered in once in a while,
and when we start pulling these things apart, it's almost
always a mistake. I but the trouble is, you know,
(11:02):
none of us want to be wasteful, and we're looking
at it. At first glance, you're thinking, you know, these
don't let you bad. You know, they look like they're salvageable.
But like anything, once you empty them out, once you
pull them away from the wall, it's like, oh boy,
now we got a problem. So, by the way, the
paint car thing, now, not all of us can afford
a really great paint shot. But I do have a
friend that actually painted his old truck with a roller.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Okay, it looks like.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Way, but you know it's what you could afford at
the time. We still hassle about.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
That, as you should. Talking this morning with Mike two Ek,
owner of edge Construction, the website edge Construction Company dot com.
That's all one word, Edge Construction Company dot com. Well,
we're talking than Mike about painted cabinets. Obviously, painted cabinets
are a very popular option for folks. There's a significant
difference between uh, taking your cabinets and painting them at
(11:58):
home versus getting cabinets that are manufactured and painted at
the at the facility, the type and I know you've
talked about this, the type of procedures in control they
have at the at the at the place they build
those cabinets just can't be replicated out in the real world.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
It's pretty tough. I mean it's when they're doing it.
Like I've been to our great Northern which up in
rag Blake there and watch their paint process and how
it goes from you know, one cabinet will go to
three or four stations. So this is a there is
a process of painting, not just like spray cabinet, throwing
a box and send it off. And when you start
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h this this this the chemistry behind paint now has
changed a lot and there are things that people that
are combining and react. They react together and produce the
end product that you want. Yeah, how would you how
would you replicate that? Uh in a garage shop or
or painting in place to do it? So like it's
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that's why I say, you've got a way. All these
options are my cabinets can good enough shape to do
this is it does make a lot of sense. And
then for us it makes quite a difference because in
a really good paint process with great product, those cabins
are more durable. And we know that those cabins are
going to come out of truck, They're gonna go through
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our shop, We're gonna take them out in a trailer
to a job. We got in box and move around
get them in. They're around during a construction process, and
so if we get to the end and have to
repaint in the field or do too much touch up
in the veal, we try to protect them as much
as we can. A lot of that is based on
the process that get used and when they were first painted.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You mentioned that word durable, and it's funny say I
jotted down durability because I feel like when it comes
to and we'll get into other areas of kitchen remodeling
and we'll get into some of the trends as well.
But as we talk about cabinets, is I don't know
that people fully appreciate what a quality cabinet or any
cabinet for that matter, endures. But how well quality and
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how durable quality cabinets or in the right finish and
the right everything, how well they perform. I think if
you have good cabinets, you tend to take that stuff
for granted, don't you?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You do?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
And I think the hard part of this for homeowner
is when you at first install, if you have a
talented carpenter installing these cabinets, you can take on one
end of the scale a cheaper power board cabinet, install it,
and you're putting in a great cabinet right next to it.
You may not be able to tell a much difference.
(14:32):
It's like it's got to stand the test of time
a little bit, it's got to have you know, maybe
there's maybe there's life happens to these things a little bit.
And so yeah, we have had other suppliers in the past,
or I've seen other cabinets in the past where I go,
I can you can almost tell that they're trying to
cheapen up the operation, right, it's trying to save some
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pennies here and there, and these finishes get.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Thinner and thinner and thinner.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But like I said, first glance, right of the box,
they're gonna and and especially installed, you're not gonna be
able to tell that.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
You know, you're not gonna be able to tell. Oh,
have you ever boughten a cheap piece of furniture.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Like there's a four letter not a four letter it
is a four letter word, but not that four letter word.
A certain place that everything comes flat.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yes, yes, yeah, what are your expectations when you're are
you thinking this thing is gonna last thirty years.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
If it makes it? If it makes it for the
term of that lease, if I remember, be a blessing.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, and uh, by the same token, I go, well,
I remember my grandma bought Ethan l and like the
dining room furniture, Yes, I don't have it. My mom's
got it because she's like, you know, this stuff is
still in great shat.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I don't have to now you know it shouldn't last
that long.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
But but you know, the process that that that went through,
uh to make that piece of furniture is is different
than the ice something.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
And it's the same with cabins. Same with cabins.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
If there's a if there's a little he's key that's
illustrating how to put the thing together, it's yeah. And
again nothing against them, by the way that it's affordable.
And I mentioned you know, if you're a renter, something
that's kind of a perfect.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I have friends who are not carpenters that love watching
videos online of people that are just really talented furniture makers,
and you know there's a huge difference between machine and right.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
That kind of brings us to to like what you
look at when it comes to a cabinet, like to
an untrained eye, I'll use my eye. I think a
lot of cabinets look pretty similar. I'm not going to
be able to tell you you bring me two of
them if they're both brand new, I'm gonna look at
them and like, oh, those look very very nice, because
they do look very very nice. What do you look for, Mike,
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when you're choosing, like a quality cabinet, saying this is
something that's going to last a while.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Well, you know, before we got the Great Northern Supplier,
you know, we have an option that's local for custom
things and we use them once in a while, and
then our main spire was Welburn Forest and nothing nothing
against them. Well with Welden Forest is a very standard cabinet,
standard how it's made. We we they will they make
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us a plywood box, which is important to me, and
they make a they make it the way we we
like it, and it reaches the price point. It's still
a good cabinet. It's still in our lineup, but more
and more the Great Northern Cabinet has taken over because
and one of the reasons is, you know, these things
show up. They look like Ethan Allen Furnisure. They look
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like I don't know if that's a brand that's still
around even, but they're they're when you take out of
the boxes a carpet, you know, it's different. And when
I went and watched their manufacturing, I understood why because
probably because it's in Northern Wisconsin, it's still a very
hands on process, where I know the rest of the
industry is now a semi pulls up with plywood, a
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some it pulls up with with some of the hardwoods. Uh,
they have laser it checks the straightness of things, that
lays out things. A CNC machine. You know, you're more
of a you're managing through a computer screen the building
of the cabinet rather than hands on. Whereas when I
went to Red Lake, it took me like three days
(18:16):
in a sleigh to get there.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
But there's like eight people.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
That handle that cabinet before it goes in a box,
and even to the point of how they put it
in the box and how they protect it. It's a
there's a reason that we're just you know, moving towards
that cabinet. We like anything, we're slow to move, Like
I'm a loyal guy. I don't want to just jump
and have the same problem somewhere else. So but over
the few years that we've we've now had them. You know,
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it's it's quite the majority of our stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
You mentioned the packaging and how they're shipped. There's got
to be nothing worse than opening up as I think
as as anybody ever opened up a package. And you're like, well,
especially for something like that, right.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Well, and you know you mentioned that like the Amazon
thing where you open a box. Now you go, you
open a big box and find another box, right mm hmm.
It's like and you know that that box is just
bouncing around in that bigger box.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
That's kind of that way with cabinets. Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
When I when we open the Ribake boxes, the Great
Northern cabinets, it's very tight packaging. Anything like, what does
that matter? Well if we buy any other cabinets a
little bit looser packaging when when that is in the truck,
that cardboard actually will rub the finish and change the
look of it and there's times that we have to
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do repairs on things like that, and so all in all,
I don't know I should get a commission from Right
Northern probably, but it's been a it's been a great
move for us.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
It sounds it sounds fantastic, as we talked this morning
with Mike two Eg, owner of Edge Construction the website.
Check them out online, look at all the really cool
pictures and see the great projects Edge Construction Company dot com.
That's Edgeconstruction Company dot com really do amazing work. Check
out also their link to how's h o u z
z from Edge Construction Company dot com. See more of
their portfolio there. And again, of course I've been looking
(20:02):
about to it, looking to do some remodeling, whether it's
kitchen or any room of the house, or maybe looking
at do an addition or maybe do a new house.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
You of course give them a.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Call six so eight six three six three three four
three that number six three six Edge. More of the
Homer Modeling Show with Edge Construction is next right here
on thirteen ten WIBI. This is the Homer Modeling Show
brought you by Edge Construction online. Edge Construction Company dot com.
That's all one word Edge construction company dot com. They're
tell number six so eight six three six three three
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four to three that number six three six Edge talking
this week about remodeling trends when it comes to the kitchen.
Although this is the first segment, we really just talked
a lot about cabinets. For good and goodness, when you
think about a kitchen, the cabinets are just such a
big part of it. It does bring me though to pantries,
and I feel like pantries have made a comeback as
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like more than just a place to kind of put
your dry goods. Like, like I've seen some of the
pantries you guys have done at Edge Construction, and I'm like,
this is these are nicer than my studio apartment I
had when I was in my twenties. Is that is
that being reflected? Is that becoming a more common thing
of really upgraded pantry?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Hey, it comes up in the conversation because, like like
I said, when we first started doing these, just having
kind of a smaller reach in a washkin pantry was
kind of a big deal. And I mean like now
we've been able to do somewhere, We've expanded a kitchen
got a nice it's like a kitchenette almost. We have
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one that's in construction right now where the pantry will
have you know, it's two barn doors.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
You open up.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
The pantry is about ten feet long, about five feet wide,
so it's got a row of cabinets, bet fridge on
one end, built in microwave on the other.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
And homeowners are going, you know what we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
We want our coffeemaker, we want our the toaster or
whatever it can be there. But they're also like, they're
not a space where you would traditionally think that it
would be attractive, but you're alluded to that. Where this
one's going to have, you know, a nice BackFlash tile,
it's got under cap lighting, it's got probably one or
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two free standing shelves. I think the jury is still out.
We might do a big mirror in between the upper cabinets,
just as sort of as an element of you know,
to be attractive in there.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
And you know, it's fun. It's really become a design element.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
And I'm amazed, you know, when we build this stuff,
I'm like, oh, this is really cool.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
But then I see.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Homeowners doing things like you know, just the creative storage solutions.
I mean there's there's a lot of cool stuff out
there that is really attractive to store, things like that
you use in a kitchen every day. And so when
we do a bunch of open shells in a pantry,
I think, okay, if that was Mike or Sean, we
just have like cereal boxes piled up there.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
That's not what's going up there.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
One of the things that I and along those same lines,
that I find very impressive about about the pantries that
you guys have been doing is they're very functional and
and you mentioned just kind of like, you know, the
cereal box thing. They don't none of them seem because
like for me, my temptation would be a cluttered space.
They are so well designed that they that they have
this really kind of feeling to them that that you're
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not cluttered, You're not you don't feel clusterphobic. It's like,
and I even think of that. I remember one of
you guys did not too long ago. It had that
really nice frosted glass door on it and just really
made the space and you know, places to set some
of those you know, blenders and other things.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
I thought that is.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Just a really really really good, really glady but a lot.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Of thought and design spaces. They really are.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, there was there was one we were able to
incorporate a window that was already there into that space.
There's just a I think when you you get this
sort of marriage between UH designers and UH homer where
they're there, they let the ideas flow and then you know,
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you add in the CAD capabilities that we have now
and so like you can design these things and really
get a good feel for what it's going to look
like and how it's going to feel.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Is there some and obviously there's a trade off, you know,
it is space and that I mentioned the use of
CAD and design is that's the thing where you think about,
like how you guys are able to really maximize the
usefulness of that space with again still making it feel
very open and very very inviting. It's it's very very cool.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
There are some houses that really lend to it too.
I'm thinking about a plan that was really popular in
the eighties and nineties. It on the backside of the house.
You'd start off in the corner with a dining room
that was a lot of times too small to be
really feasible, really usable, and then the kitchen would be
kind of in the middle, and then you've got another
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space with maybe a table and walking out on a
paddy door.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
And it just was a super common design.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
And several times we've we've taken maybe half of that
tiny dining room sort of on the end of the
house and made that the pantry space, expanded the kitchen,
so now we got a little bigger kitchen. Got rid
of some corners in the kitchen, so we got rid
of those corner cabinets, get the island in there, and
all of a sudden, this thing really works.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Corners are the enemy.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
We just don't like to.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Corners they do, cause they do cause a lot of
I think anybody that's had a cabinet over the years
in that corner and they're like, what do you do
with that area?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
You need to hide something, you just put it back
in that corner cabinet.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
That is true. Talking this morning with Mike two eight,
owner of Edge Construction, the website Edge Construction Company dot com.
That's all one word Edge Construction Company dot com. Talking
number six So eight six three six three three four
three that number six three six Edge talking kitchen remodeling
trends to talk about and we'll continue to continue more
on the kitchen. We will do all of that. Next
(25:53):
is the Homer Modeling Show with Edge Construction continues right
here thirteen ten leu ib eight. This is the Homer
Modeling Show, brought to you by Edge Construction Online. Edge
Construction Company dot com. That's all one word, Edge Construction
Company dot Com. I feel like the last two things
we've talked about, we're talking kitchen trends and design trends.
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But we started off talking about cabinets and then we
started talking about pantries, and I feel like each of
those like very easily we could do an entire show
on we were talking, and I do want to ask
you a little bit more about pantries, pantry space and
the design that goes into it. Obviously, if you've got
a lot of room, pantries are certainly something that you
(26:35):
can do, but even for smaller spaces, and I've seen
kind of some of the some of the projects you
guys have done at Edge Construction over the years almost
like kind of like making use of like almost like
I don't call it a nook or like a way
to like really maximize space, to kind of make it
it's not a full on you know, it's not like
a walk in pantry. But you guys build things for
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all different types of kitchen in different spaces.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, and I think it's really important to utilize any
weird niche space especially. Can you just never have enough
of that kind of space. Okay, a kitchen has to
have all the cooking utensils, right, but where do you
store all the other stuff, all the extra stuff, all
the all the cans of things, all the boxes of things,
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and so you know, there there's times where houses just
aren't made for that, right, a pantry that's in the
kitchen or right next to the kitchen. And we've got
you know, home owners, this this this talk with homeowners
leads to well, listen, we've got a closet over here
that we yeah, it's right not right next to the kitchen,
but can we build this and build it out with
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shelves so that we can have that kind of storage
somewhere in our house. I mean, it's not like that
big a deal to walk over and get your things,
at least least some of your stuff. And it's it's
I think what people generally are trying to get get
away from is packing these cabinets like to the top
and all like so that you know, you can't even
really see what's in there when when you've got full
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so full of stuff. So I think the trend is
towards more organization. One byproduct of that is maybe you
can't get quite as many things in those cabinets, but
people seem to be okay with that. Maybe pairing down
if we can get the storage somewhere.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Have we been able to We started this conversation you
talking about softs and getting rid of them. I know
one of the things that you guys are often installing
is kind of like these Florida ceiling kind of pantry areas.
That type of thing also can really really help maximize
usable space, can't it.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, And if we don't have that walk in or
reach in closet, we're trying to design something that like
that in because you.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Know, we know people need this kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, And you can do quite a bit with one
of those just it's called a utility cabinet or a
tall cabinet, and it's it's it's very helpful to have
one of those.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
In your kitchen if possible.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And on the rare occasion that we can't get any
of those things in.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
You know, we do our best, but like I said,
usually there's there's some creative option with homers with the.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
With with cabinets too, and we talked about painted painted
cabinets and other other areas. As far as trends, the
other thing that's becoming very popular is is having a
couple kind of feature cabinets that have the glass. And
how does that work? Like like when you guys are
installing them, and I got a picture in front of
me and there's just some white, white cabinets and then
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there's a couple of them that have the glass in it.
Are those are those type of things custom built or
are you able to order those from the manufacturer or
is it a little of both or.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
So how we do it is we order from the
manufacturer and it's called PFG.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Do you you have any I guess.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Pre fabricated glass?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Prep for glass up pretty close?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Okay, And so what prep for glass means is the
center section of that door is not going to be
in it's not going to be in there. They're going
to leave that open for us, but they're gonna if
it's a painted white cabinet. They're gonna paint the inside
of the cabinet white. So if you if you put
a clear glass option on there, you look in, it
looks finished if you and then we have our local uh,
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I'll give a plug to Todd at mid Wisconsin Glass.
He does most of the glass in town. It's really
great to work with. It's literally so simple. As we
pull the doors off, give them the Todd he brings
it back with glass in him, and he offers us
a ton of options. I mean there's there's the clear glass,
there's smoky, there's you know, there there's rain glass, there's
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there's like fifty different types of glass.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
You like, you get like textures like oh.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, definitely, yeah really, and so a lot of that
stuff nice. And then you know, occasionally we'll do a
you know, we'll do it. We'll do like an led
Eu rope in there, something that gives a little bit
of background.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Like all that stuff can add to the look of
that kitchen.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I like the you know, in the right spot, the
glass cabinets I think make a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
They yeah, they do look I think as you mentioned
the right spot, like not all them, but just one
or two here. They're that kind of kind of design.
Probably is Todd, the same guy that does your your
shower glass. And by the way, just if you get
a chance to, well you're at edge Construction Company dot com.
As we're talking kitchens this week, check out those bathrooms
as well. It's really really cool work they do at
edge Construction. As we talked this morning with my two
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egg of edge Construction the website edge Construction Company dot com.
That's Edge Construction Company dot com. The number six so
eight six three six three three four three that number
six three six Edge appliances And we talked about some
of the smaller ones, the stuff you plug in and
you know, you know you want to store. What about
the bigger ones, the ones that are always plugged in,
are always connected. I know that there are certain people
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that are really good at certain things in the kitchen
and they want types of appliances they want whether it's
a you know, a oven that's got multiple oven doors, yes, yes,
but you.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Know, see a double or you know there's stuff other
combinations too. You can have it can look like a
double oven and we can you know, we'll we'll put
in the big cabinet for it and and cut the
opening and make it ready. But it could one could
be an oven and the other one could be a
convection or the other one. Or it could be an
oven with a microwave built in microwave on top, or
or like you said at a double even have you
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if one of the cool products out now is is induction?
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Right? And you check? You're not checking me once?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah? And so I looked at they are. That is
an amazing technology.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
My first view of it was maybe a few years ago.
And when I go to the National Biller Show, they'll
have okay, if there if your son appliances, you're not
going to just have appliance and you're going to have
a chef there making things on appliances and that's cool kitchen,
and uh literally they would put a son induction. It
looks like a glass cooked top, and it is a
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glass cooked top, but the heat gets transferred through to
anything magnetic. So if you have a stainless still wedding ring,
I wouldn't recommend putting your ring on there and turning
this burner on.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Because it's going to heat up like super fast.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
And you but they were it's it is, so I
don't have any personal experience with it other than seeing
it and seeing customers and talking to our customers. But uh,
you can put a pot of water on the on
the cook top. Induction is supposed to get it boiling
much faster because it's this super efficient transfer of energy.
(33:28):
So if you're if you're cooking something with something on there,
like you you're boiling water. You I was watching the
chef at the show go pull the pull the boiling
pot of water off. Put his hand immediately on the
glass cook top. It's not hot because the the energy
goes only to the pan.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
So compare this to pretty much anything else and think about, okay,
we're if you if anybody can get their power usage down,
it's it's it pays off in your wallet, right, So
more efficient appliances. This to me is brilliant because if
you're cooking with gas, it's something like seventy percent of
(34:08):
the energy of the heat just gets lost out into
your house, which is probably fine this time year, but
if it's ninety degrees in July, no, I don't know
how great that'd be. And plus, you know you're you're
there is a thing where you're you know you you
want you want good into or air quality.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
It's hard to do with gas appliances.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
So induction has has has really jumped a level, uh
to where it's great to cook on. It's safe for
your kids a little safer, right, You're.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
They can still touch the hot pot, sure and.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Get burned, but you know if they if it's it's
not like having a stove that's hot with nothing on
it and somebody puts their hand on it.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Are So, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
And and the efficiency part of it, to me is
just a huge gain. I mean, obviously it has to
work well, but makes a lot of sense to me.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Are we seeing the big manufacturers get on board with
the we are?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
And uh, you know it depends on you know, all
these appliances have levels like that that.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
It seems like mid level. Now I'm not.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I don't know how I feel about this because when
I when I plug an appliance, I don't really want
to have to hook it up to my phone do
an app to that blah blah.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Yeah, but you mentioned to that. Love it is now.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I think on the lower end some of it is offered,
but definitely in the mid to high range you can
have your oven warm it up you know, turn it
on before you leave work so it's hot when you
get home. I literally will ask you, are you going
to make a pizza?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
You know whatever they have built in meatmoters they have
there's a bunch of cool stuff on here, and you
know we could go on it on on that one.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
What thing to with the induction? Do those require any
special Obviously there's there's there's wiring. Is there anything Is
it require higher voltage or amperage or I'm talking like
I know what I'm saying that.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
It really doesn't.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
It's a it's a very normal hookup, just like you
would do for any other appliance.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
And so.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I I really like where that tech has gone. By
the way, now we built a house next summer, very
nice house in the country. The fridge that we put
in there, uh, sort of acts as the hub for
all of the other appliants. Like you can you can
connect or there's someone who can connect on their on
(36:29):
their app, on their WiFi or Bluetooth and see however
manage their appliances. They can also be at the store
and look into their Now you're really just yes, you can.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
You can.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
You can look by camera into your fridge and say, oh,
I'm really getting low on milk.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Wow, I think I'll get some of these some.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
That that if you use all of the tech available
on that you know you it can be your running list,
it can be and your your your kids can check
in when you get home and send you a note.
It's it's pretty amazing tech.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
That is some really really cool stuff. As we talked
this week with Mike two Weeg, owner of Edge Construction.
The website Edge Construction Company dot com. That's all one
word Edge Construction Company dot com. Thinking about doing a
kitchen remodel. They'd love to talk with you at Edge.
I got to just pick up phone, give a call
six O eight six three six three three four three.
That number so easy, remember it's six three six Edge.
Of course, Edge Construction brings you the Homer Modeling Show
(37:20):
right here. I'm thirteen ten do Wuibi. This is the
home Modeling show brought you by Edge Construction online. Edge
Construction Company dot com. That's all one word Edge Construction
Company dot com. Great website, of course, they're telephone number
six O eight six three six three three four to three.
That number six three six Edge talking about some really
(37:42):
cool trends for kitchens and having your kitchen room model. Then, Mike,
you were telling me during the break about uh and
I did not even know this type of technology existed,
and now that you're telling me about it, I am amazed.
Let's talk about some of the new things when it
comes to counter tops and electronics.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
We saw this at the Bill Show last year and it's, uh,
it's basically, how do I describe this? So you so
the your your your cap, your count top manufacturer has
to be on board. And we've two of our suppliers
are now offering this to us, and we just got
the got the uh the demo for it in our
(38:25):
in our showroom and now we can show you how
this works. Basically, they wrote her out a area maybe
a one foot area underneath the count top sort of
sort of thin out the contop right there. A unit
mounts underneath there that charges things. And literally what they
tell us is you can and I've seen it demonstrated.
You can put your laptop there, you can put your
phone there, no cords, you just set it on topic.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
I know, Sean, is this is dying right now.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Anything your your your ear, your ear buzz pretty much
anything that can be charged is rechargeable.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
You can lay on top of the car top.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
They have really cool features like you can have it.
It's it's not like an X Okay, put things here.
You can slide your front across when it when it
gets in over the magical location, a little led kind
of comes through that car tops un lets you know
where you're at.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
It's very cool stuff.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I'm gonna build a blender that just sits and it
runs right. No course, charge, don't drill batteries. Start seeing
those in the edge trucks. Yeah, very very cool. And
and by the way, as we talk with Mike, and
I consider myself to be a pretty sharp on technology,
but you don't know what you don't know. And that's
one of those fun things about working with Mike and
(39:40):
the team and Edge Construction. You're gonna say, I, I say.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Do you have USB outlets in your house? I do? Okay, yeah,
how great?
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Are they? Right? Well?
Speaker 1 (39:48):
And that's because you know, is finding chargers and then
your your bricks disappear and it's like, yeah, we've got
just the one.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
The other thing is most of the USB outlets are
smart chargers, so like they don't keep charging your phone
when it's when it's full. Yeah, Whereas if you've noticed,
you know, if you plug into your car a lot
of times, maybe it's gotten better with newer cars.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I don't. I don't have a new car right now, but.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
It gets hot, right it keeps keep going even though
it's even though it's at one hundred percent, and so
I I they're they're very handy, very nice, a lot
cleaner than having to Okay, you still have a quord,
but but you don't have to necessarily find, you know, everything.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
There are amazing things out there, and that's far part
of the journey, and it's fart part of the fun
of working with Edge Construction not only beautiful kitchens, but
very functional in having the latest and greatest options to you.
A great day. To start that conversation, I got to
just pick a phone, give a call six so eight
six three six three three four three that number six
three six Edge and Mike I they're gonna have to
talk about wireless countertops after the show today. This is
(40:51):
the Homer Model League Show, brought to you by Edge
Construction right here at thirteen ten WIB eight
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