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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Homer Modeling Show, brought to you by
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Six three six Edge joined in studio this morning by
Mike two Egg, owner of Edge Construction.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Mike, how you been great, Seohn, It's good.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
To talk to you. We're going to kind of break
things down, get.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
In the year end spirit and uh starting a new
year and all that great stuff. So we're going to
talk about just kind of an overview of some of
the areas that are focused in oftentimes when more popular
areas when it comes to home remodeling. And the first
one on this list points out one that we've covered
a couple of different ways on this program is the
overall kind of that kitchen remodel, but really how to
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do a kitchen remodel and everything that's the right way,
there's a wrong way, there's a.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Never gra if you can just snap your fingers and
turn around, oh my gosh, wouldn't it be done.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I think a lot people their kitchens is that one
of those rooms though, where people are oftentimes they don't
always fully you think about what all it goes into
a kitchen remodel.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Well, I think it's I blame TV actually always because
you know, they make it look so easy, like okay,
there's always a hiccup because you got to have a
little drama. But you know a half hour they largely
they peel stuff off, they put stuff on, they paint it,
and they throw.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
A little flooring. Yeah, and all of a sudden they
got in the kitchen.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
But yeah, it's it's it's I always think, okay, like
half the work to this, to remodeling anything, if you
do it right, the stuff that you don't get to see,
you know, it's it's stuff behind the drywall.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So with that and kind of as we talk about
break down some of these these kind of big, big
remodeling things that folks. Again, kitchen is one too that
you really want to get right. I was gonna say
the first time.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
You just want to get it right.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well, for a couple of reasons.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Right, It's it's expensive. I don't care what your budget,
if it's twenty grand or two hundred grand, it's still
a lot of money. And you know, you got the
pain suffering of being without your kitchen for a while,
and it's it disrupts your life. And and now I
can really tell people are sort of an It's it's
not just like like putting new tires on the truck,
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is okay, what what's best for the house? And uh,
And that means it's probably affecting even more than the
kitchen A lot of times if you look at the
remodels that we do, like, Okay, we're doing the kitchen,
but we might we want some continuity here, so if
we're doing flooring in there, we might do flooring on
the rest of the first floor, or you know some
of those common areas. And so it's not it's not
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just the kitches. Yeah, the short, long answer is how
do you how do you not go through this every
fifteen years?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Right?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
You got to pick some good products. You want products
that are going to last. There's a wide range in cabinets.
I know we've talked about it like crazy over the
past bunch of years we as a company. I mean,
like I I looked for that. I wanted to be attractive.
I want all the stuff that everybody else wants. I
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want them to I want them to do what they're
supposed to do. I want to have options for them
on color and species of wood and the look, but
they really need to last because if if we're putting
in a product that needs to be replaced because it
fails in twenty years, that to me doesn't sound less
like a success.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Are we are?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
We kind of in a golden age or a good
time for kitchens. It feels like there as you talk
about some of those options and the quality that's out there,
it does seem like like in the past maybe there
were some compromises that needed to be made. Right now,
it seems like if if you're interested in doing it right,
there are no compromises. You can do a fantastic kitchen
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remodel right now with some really amazing products.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
You can you know, I'll just touch on cabinets because
that is the going to flooring a little bit. But
you know, if you have a cabinet that's on the
lower end, you know, the particle board stuff, and we've
kind of poked fun at the picture would on the end.
It's really common, unfortunately, but when those cabinets are installed
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brand new, they're gonna look like you know, they're gonna
look like a brand new car.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Like here, it's it's gonna look great. It's really not
enough for.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Us, Like I want that cabinet to look good ten
years from now, twenty years now, hopefully a lot longer
than that. And then you've got to pay a lot
of specific attention to how they're made and the products
that are used. So is it a golden age? Yes,
because for a long time, you know, we had trouble
even finding stuff that we liked. You know, we our
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main manufacturer for for many years was Walburn Forest and
we still use their cabinets. They're about thirty percent of
our supply. It's a good cabinet. It's certainly upper middle
I would say, you know, on quality. But we we
talked to them about what we what we wanted when
we bought cabinets, and like they they accommodated us and
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they made cabinets that that met our minimums at least,
you know, and like I said, we still put them in.
So there I have. I have those cabinets in my
house now. We now he our main suppliers turned into
a Wisconsin supplier. It's great northern cabinets up in Riblake, Wisconsin,
which I can make fun of Riblake, because those guys
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are so far away they'll never hear it. Joe Wurz like,
go to the North Pole and then just keep going,
keep going for a while.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
It's it's up there.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
And they do a beautiful job, and I love how
they manufacture, and to us, it was a step up
in quality.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
We gained a bunch of other things with it because
we can customize their cabinets much more than we could
the standard cabinets that we had. So does that coming
a cost yep, it does. It's a little more expensive.
But those are the kinds of things I think. You know,
you need to have your eyes open when you're walking
into a model because you really don't want to do
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something that you're gonna have to replace in too short
a time.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
You know, when you talk about the the getting a
chance to tour up in rib Lake, Yeah, Cohler is
another one I know when it comes to fixtures and faucets,
that is I know you've talked about that, another Wisconsin
company and one that I know you've had a chance
to over the years.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Very much.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I say, familiarize yourself is beyond that. That's an understatement.
There's a reason why you why you.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
That's right right so about I believe the last stat
I saw was that about sixty percent of the plumbing
products in the US that could you get used in
our country come from China, good, bad, or otherwise.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I mean, I'm sure there's good products.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
It's a it's I'd be misspeaking if I said it's
a minefield. But it's a little bit of a minefield
for us. I get a lot of comfort out of
out of color as our standard, that's our starting point.
I just feel like we know the products. When we've
had issues, you know, it's it's they're usually fixed right away.
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They've never balked at a warranty item. They're they're always
there to help us. They have such a wide range
of of product to shoes from. You've got all the
options you can imagine.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Uh we have.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
We have gone up there to to Cohler, just the
town as a company you can. You can go and
see all their stuff. They have amazing showrooms. We've had
We've had homeowners and customers of ours that have gone
up there and looked and and seen what's out there.
One of the one of the best times a year
for me is the builder show. This year is in
Vegas again and Cohler has I don't know, like a
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city block there, and it's it's phenomenal because you you
can as designers and as a remiling company, we can
even get pigeonhole a little bit. We we find products
we like within their portfolio and we sort of go
to that's our comfort zone. And it's great for us
to go out there to the show and see everything
they have because it's usually amazing. You know, we try
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to stay away from the real trendy stuff, but you
can see where the trends are moving out there, and
they they some years, not every year, they'll have actually
stand up comedians talking about their toilets.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
So that's really funny. Well around, the crowd enjoys it.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I speak of good products, it seems like I'll use
color as an example. I don't know how many fixtures
and faucets they're they're churning out a year at tens
of thousands, hundreds of thousands, maybe millions. Obviously out of those,
there's going to be occasionally things going on, and it
feels like kind of when you're judging some of these
these products, it's really when that that off one happens,
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how they respond, how they react, and having somebody mentioned,
you know, whether it's relationships with the cabinet makers or
the or or the reputation of the company that's providing
you the faucets, having the say okay, this real, you know,
realizing if you're making a million widgets, there's gonna be
one that's not absolutely perfect.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
How do they respond to that? That's important part, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
It is?
Speaker 4 (09:09):
And you know I talk about Great Northern and Coroller
are too wonderful Wisconsin companies both though responsive that way.
And it's things happen, you know. I'd love to say
there's there's never a mistake. There's companies that are so
good in this business that they never mess up. But
the truth is, occasionally there's something that happens, and like
you said, it's how they respond.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
We I'll get and sometimes it's not their fault.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Sometimes we order something wrong and we have every check
and balance in the world, but it's human error happens, right.
We had a recent bathroom model where we ordered two
cabinets wrong. I'm embarrassed to say it happens like once
every year or two. We got on the phone with
Great Northern are our people that were helping us up there,
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and within I think it was a little less than
two weeks they churned out these two cabinets, got them
down to us, so that okay, it was an inconvenience
to the homeowner, you know, but it could have been
much worse. By two years ago, that might have been
a four or five or six month operation just getting
those two cabinets. So it's it's really great to have
these companies that are close that that will really help
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and respond to us.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
As we talk about this week about some popular remodeling
projects and trends that I've got to guess quality is
and that's got one of the greatest trends to come about,
is is people have that expectation of very high quality.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Well, I think yeah, because you're you're going through this right,
You're we talked about the time that you're going to
be out of this kitchen. You're you're investing some money
and it's not worth saving one hundred dollars on a
on a on a fixture right on a on a shower,
on a shower fixture or a sink fixture. Is it
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really Yeah, there's cheaper stuff out there. I think, and
you know it, some of that stuff might be right.
It's just like we like sticking with stuff we know
and and for all a myriad of reasons that that
quality on the cabinets thing, it's it's it's it's a
lot of times hard to use the budget to buy
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those better products. But you know, you don't want to
have How many Yugos do you see drive around.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
By the way, I've seen one of them. See when
I had a car, so so I was. I think
Folkswagen made him right. They were they were kind of
the cheapest. Well the thing I was that was another
thing out there. But the even when when they were new,
they appealed to people. So you can you can buy
this product that looks good when it's brand new. But
families are tough on kitchens. I'm sure your family stund
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sure was. And so yeah, the quality of the product
means a lot in our house.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
It's one particular person for you. It was a trio.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yes, I scene to remember hockey games or you know,
games of hockey in the kitchen when my wife wasn't looking.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
This word with like two Egolder of Edge Construction website,
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three four three that number six three six EDGE. It's
a great time to start that conversation, start planning for
that remodeling project again. I get to pick a phone,
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about some popular remodeling projects and trends, one that's on
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this note is about about choosing the best drain for
your shower. And I feel like drains are overlooked. Without
a drain, you have a flood.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Right, you got a big problem problem.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
And there are people are like, why would why would
anybody focus on a drain. It's amazing what one functionally,
what they can do, but also aesthetically, there are some
really good, uh good drains available out there, aren't there.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Yeah, that that is an interesting thing. So we do
quite a few full tile showers, like we used to
call mudset tile showers, where we'd actually build the base
of the shower out of out of it's like a
cement base. That's changed a lot over the years. And
how we do it now we use kind of a
combination of that and some pre made things and make
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it all work just like everything else. Drains and showers, Okay,
you sort of don't notice them, but life would be
inconvenient without it, or if it messes up. We've experimented
with a bunch of different things, so a common one
would be a kind of a smaller center drain. As
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we've gotten fancier with these showers and bigger with these showers,
you need pitch on that floor to get water all
the way to that center. And there's times where people
are like, well, I don't know if I want a
two inch pitch in my shower, what other option do
I have? While we can put a tray drain in,
or a linear drain they are sometimes called, so it's
a long kind of maybe three or four inches wide,
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a long drain. It could be against a back wall
a shower. Some people don't want to stand on a drain,
so that we'll do something like that. Much trickier installs,
by the way, that once you get away from the
normal little guy in the middle, things get a little
get a little little trickier, and you need a really
good trained installer to do that kind of thing. It's
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not just about looks when it comes to water, it's
got to function well. And so there's times where we go, Okay,
we've got two supplies coming to this big shower. We've
got a we've got a rain hat in the middle,
We've got normal showers.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
On either end.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
It's a lot more water coming in here, so we
need to upsize everything. Upsize the drain, upside the pipes.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Things like that.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Are people sometimes surprised that that's part of the conversation, Like, yeah,
I would have never thought about thinking about drain options,
but it is something you want.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I'm laughing because I'm thinking of people that are going, oh,
I know I have to make another decision.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I gotta pick one more thing out. My head's gonna explode.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
But yeah, you can do that. I mean, there's some
cool stuff with drains too. Now we've got tile over drains,
meaning you can you sort of don't It looks like
it looks like maybe you forgot the grout in one
spot and that's where the water goes down, and so
you leave some space, but you're basically tiling over the
top of that drain. It could be a linear drain,
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or it could be that small one in the middle. Again,
you're you're stepping up the skill level of the install
and you really want to make sure you're using good
products when you do this.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
One one final thing on drains as well. I know
with a lot of folks, especially as as we get
a little older, not having to step over even a
small little you know, a couple of inches is a
bent is definitely beneficial and desirous. And some of these
options for drains as well can literally make it so
it's like a seamless transition between outside of the shower
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and inside of the shower.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Yeah, and you're talking about like a Kerblish shower or
things like that. Yeah, it's that is a trend that
I really I love the look and it makes a
lot of sense to me. It's it's houses aren't built
to accommodate that very often, and you know, if you're
building a new house, it would be kind of east
as you do to accommodate for that. There's things you
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could do and when you're framing that house and building
that floor system to accommodate the zero zero threshold, what
we certainly have done is putting us put a smaller curb.
So maybe instead of like that, you know, when I
when I started in construction, it seemed like all those
curves were four or five inches tall, and it's like,
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I don't know why they were done. We didn't have
to building that tall, so but you certainly can do
a smaller curb even even we've put in some some
handicap friendly uh that's the term they use. Uh. So,
so it's a it's a small off curve. You can
get a you can get a fiber glass unit. We did
one that was I think around eight feet wide. It
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came from Cohler. It was maybe six ft deep, so
it's a really good sized shower. So somebody could actually
this person was in a chair could roll over the
top and it was just like a one inch curve
nic So as a way to get in there safely.
Still worked really well. We didn't have to anything fancy
you with reframing the floor or anything. So there's a
bunch of options out there for that.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Talking this morning with Mike two Egg of Edge Construction,
we'll can tell you a conversation about some popular remodeling
projects as well as trends I get into a glasswork
as well as tiles. Since we've kind of touched on
some of the bathroom spaces. We'll definitely get into those
areas this morning as we talked with Mike two Egg
of Edge Construction. The website Edge Construction Company dot com.
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teleph number six O eight six three six three three
four three that number six three six Edge. With the
new year and years wrapping up and all that fun stuff,
kind of going over some of the popular remodeling projects
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and trends, and we started talking about drain tiles in
the shower, which again very important part is maybe something
you don't always think about. One of the areas that
I have noticed mic has become very popular and it
kind of ties in with some of the options for showers,
shower drains, those type of things. The type of glass
work and I don't know what the exact industry term
would be for that, but like the surrounds and things
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or the areas around the shower and using glass and
custom glass, and it's so many great benefits to it,
including not only does it look great, makes the room
seem more open, more spacious, which in the bathroom you
really want. That's become a very popular thing, hasn't it, Mike?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It is?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
And do you do you have in your house? You
have the the you have glass doors on.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Your We don't at all.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
But you know, I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
The old ones with the rail when.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Like the and the thing the framer out like slide it.
After about twenty years, it's.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Like even those have gotten nicer. But certainly the trend
is towards what what you were trying to come up with,
was we call frameless glass. That's it, yes, and so
it's it's you sort of get rid of all that
track stuff and and now you have a door that
swings out and and it's much simpler looking but much nicer,
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and so uh, there's there's and it's customizable. So our
our I'll give Todd a plug. At mid Wisconsin Glass eight,
they do almost all the glass in town and even
outside of Madison. They do a bunch really good people
and and they'll come and we will we will talk
them through and sort of design and place what we
want the glass and these showers to look like. And
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so it's it's they have great ideas, a ton of options.
We've had people find really interesting things on online on
house or in Pinterest, and hey, can we make a
look like that? And he always has a solution for that.
And so that custom glass size, Okay, you knew the
greatest shower in the world, all the beautiful tie work,
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and if nobody can see it because you had this
weird door in front of it, it's not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
So trends in the trends in.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
That glass certainly more open. Twenty years ago, the custom
showers we were doing, the custom houses we were working on.
The showers by by today's standards, looked more like caves.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
You sort of walked in.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
There was sort of an entrance, but a lot of
tile maybe even tile walls, and yeah, you lit it
up in there, but you still felt like you were
in a in a tunnel. Kind of The trend now
is okay, get rid of those walls. We're going to
glass everything. Uh, And it's a much nicer situation.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And it is as we talk about some of those
some of those options for the glass and having a
custom done. It's am I am I wrong in this
too since it's become more popular. It's the prices is
and how would I describe a competitive It's it's you
know again, it's not we're not talking about this is
not something that's like, oh.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
It's not just the bus.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
No, yes, there is cost, but it's definitely become more
of a more of an achievable, more of a more
of something that that fits in a lot of budgets.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Is it is?
Speaker 4 (21:14):
And we when we're trying to price things, okay, you
you can we could go one way and price everything
at sort of the on the lower end, okay, and
and then and then make you upgrade every time you
go up.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
And I think it's dishonest.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Really, I mean you're if so, our base pricing would
have uh, frameless glass in there. I mean, because we
know that's what people are going to tend to want
and want to go for, and so you know you
just have to make room in.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
The budget for that right away. Has it has.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Gotten cheaper, I wouldn't say that, but it's it certainly
hasn't gone up like on the scale of anything else.
It's it's sort of just maintained its pricing, and so
maybe that's why it feels like it's everything else has
gone up. But but yeah, and and you know some
of the options that we've done, I mean, you can
there's a lot of things you can pick for that glass,
a lot of different looks you can get. You can
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have clear glass, which is probably the best thing.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
We we, by the way, get factories treated glass. And
it's remember the uh if you ever stayed anybody's house
that had a squeegee in their shower, you'd have to
squeeze heat or wipe down the glass because it's spotted
so bad. Yeah, the new the new stuff doesn't it's
it's much better about that. And so I was one
of the kicks. It's like the stainlessteel appliance thing. You know,
like people liked it, but they felt like they were
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cleaning it all the time. The new stuff is much better.
It doesn't show quite as much and so pretty handy.
Oh and we've also done some you know, you can
do a band of cloudy glass in the middle.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
The important area, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
And uh, or you can you know, you can do
you can do ring glass, you can do there's a
bunch of different things you can do.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Oh, really, can you do weighty glass? Could you get
like a design yes, yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Yeah, there's like it's pretty much any any any glass
that out there is an option for this now it
seems like and so just called Todd's.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Running with my doing of edge construction online, Edge Construction
Company dot com. All one word edge Construction Company dot com.
Why glass because you want to show off the tile
work and that brings us to our to our next,
our next trend and uh project is the right tile
and very very cool and very customizable. And I had
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a lot of character with tile, especially in showers. What
a what a great great area that's that's become.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Yeah, most people view a tile, I hope is changing
based on the options that we have now.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Uh, there's there's.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
People that come in so you know, I had tile
my last house. I didn't really like it, and I'm
and what they really didn't like is the big grout joints.
That's that's kind of gone by the wayside. Uh, the
trend is not there. Also, you know, the new products
you don't have to treat so they don't get they
don't get dirty like the old stuff did, and much
easier to clean. And one one thing that I'm noticing is,
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you know tile in the past, it always looks so perfect, right,
every tile out of the box would look exactly like
the last one. And the trend is really kind of
not that way. And I forget what the term as
they call it. But when they fire them now, they're
they're making sort of imperfect tiles. They're not perfectly flat,
they're not they have some personality to them. And uh,
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one of the one of the one of the tiles
that has made it into our lineup, or just the
style of tile. It's like I think it's a four
inch square tile, but it's got a lot of flavor,
the color changes in it, and it's every color you
can imagine. But even within if you pick up blue
and it's it goes from different shades of blue, and
they're all just a tad bit different, and when they
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fire them, that just kind of come up and so
it it doesn't look I don't know if I'm describing
this right, but it's got it's perfectly imperfect.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I guess some of that combat and and I know
with with tile is I think people like that clean look,
but sometimes it almost feels like it gets too sterile.
It's like some of that that character there to kind
of maybe offset a little of that, kind of make
it feel a little bit more comfortable, a little bit
more personal, a little more a little more like home.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I mean I I did it. Yeah, Yeah, that's it's
it's so cool.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
And I will mention, by the way, the website Edge
Construction Company dot com. You want to see some pretty
amazing tile work, head on over there. Check out the
portfolio I'll start linked to house. You'll see some really
really cool things and a very popular option in those showers.
I even call it an option. I think it's probably
every I think every shower I've ever seen. You guys
do is the knooker than the niche niche yes.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, and even you know, it does take a little
effort to put the niches in, but people really love
them and they've become a design element too. A lot
of times we'll do an accent in the niche, so
it's the base level of tile is one style, and
maybe there's something special in that niche.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
It's it's uh.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I pick on our designers because I'm like, can't you
design a shower with an easy nitche, like you know,
maybe one twelve by twelve niches right in the middle,
that'd be awesome, But no, they they like to do.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
You'll see niches that are the length of the shower.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
You'll see niches that we might have two or three
in there that are staggered. Kind of An interesting one
that showed up in the last few years is a
small niche down low, maybe a foot off the floor,
where when you're shaving your legs shot, you can put
your foot in there and do that. I said, well,
if I ever, if I want one for myself, I
want one about about headhi thing and put my mirror
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in there to shave it. And that's an issue. We've
done that actually a couple of times too. So there's
it's it can be. There's a lot of different ideas
float around.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Does with does that require special framing. I've got to
guess that part of how you guys design that is
to not.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Really if there's a if there's a if there's a
two by four in the way in the in the
spot of the niche, which we can we can cut
that out and and block.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
For the niche.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
If it just if it falls within a stud space,
which is if we design things right and built it right,
that's what that's what will happen.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
We actually make those out of it's a Shlooter product.
It's the orange stuff that goes behind all the tile
if you're watching the TV shows. But Shooter now they
have it's called Curdie board and it's like insulation board,
but it's got there Curdi fabric on the front of it.
And we actually now custom make our own niches out
of the curty board.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
It's a great.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Substrate for doing doing towel work on and so uh,
you know, you get super flat, clean lines, a little
bit of insult extra insulation never hurts either, and so
uh that's turned out to be a great option.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Certainly not in the shower.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I don't think anybody's complaining that the shower has got
a little extra insulation. By the way, have the you
mentioned shlouter and some of the you know, some of
the other techniques. Is I think one of the old
concerns with with tile as well was as things age
is becoming loose or things settling, these modern part products
and not just what's behind it. But I correct me
(28:06):
if I'm wrong. Even the stuff you're using to attach
the tiles and and and and doing the joint is
much more better about about holding for a very long time,
is that right?
Speaker 4 (28:18):
So one of the one of the issues had been
in the past. If you look at when we're going
in and tearing out an old shower, you know, you
look at that that that tile shower anything, Well, this
is impervious.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Well if you the mortar, which.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Is kind of a cement product, that's what you attach
the tiles with UH to the substrate, and then you
you fill in those joints, right, you murder those joints.
If you look at that under a microscope, you're gonna
see it's not impervious. It's not perfectly flat. It's there's
a lot of air and concrete and so uh, moisture
can current of work its way through that, and what
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would happen is moistured work his way through that and
get whatever was behind it.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
A lot of times it was plywood.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Or or whatever it was back there that would hold
that moisture. And then you can actually rot that mortar
and that would happen in tiles would be popping off.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
And so with the new.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Products we have they allow for less of that that migration,
that wicking whatever goes through there. And then basically the
shooter prouct the orange stuff is a membrane like that's
really your shower. So I kind of have this thing
with our people now I say, okay that the waterproofing,
the membrane is, that's the shower, and the artwork is
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the tile it goes on top of it. And it
kind of gives you a different perspective when you're doing
this tower. So it places a lot of importance on
doing that background stuff right because if water does make
its way through there, you certainly want it to stop
at the.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Memory important perspective there for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
As I talk this morning with Mike two Weeg Order
of edge Construction, check out some of those bathroom remodels.
Just head on over to Edgeconstruction Company dot com. That's
Edgeconstruction Company dot com. You can take a look at
the portfolio there. You can also link to their house
page and there are dozens and dozens and dozens of
bathroom ideas, some really great stuff at their house page
for Edge Construction. Just head on over to Edge Construction
(30:07):
Company dot com. We'll continue our conversation.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
We'll talk more.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
About some of the popular remodeling projects and trends we're seeing.
We'll do all of that next as the Homer Modeling
Show with Edge Construction continues.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Right here.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
I'm thirteen ten wuiba. This is the Homer Modeling Show,
brought to you by Edge Construction Online. Edge Construction Company
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Dolph number six O eight six three six three three
four to three that number six three six Edge talking
about popular remodeling projects and trends. And I'm kind of
giggling because I read the note just before, just before
(30:40):
we came on air here about interior and interior trim,
and the first line says trim is often subtle unless
it's done wrong, And.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I said, so true.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Epic fails out there by the way, go on, like, uh,
there's Facebook pages just on weird people, weird things people
have done with interior trim.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
And I still remember over a decade ago, first time
you and I ever met learning about trim and and
talking about the work that you guys do at edge construction.
Trim is again, it's something that's probably completely underappreciated. And
it's maybe I don't know if it's the fact that
it's that it's it's it's beautiful but subtle, if that
(31:24):
makes sense. Is it's there is an art to to trim,
Isn't there There is?
Speaker 4 (31:28):
And there's there's a lot of traditional things that help
you right kind of dos and don'ts. Almost I I'm
laughing because in our in our Monday morning meetings, we
have you know, a bunch of different people in there.
And uh, I grew up as a trimmer.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I mean I was.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I've spent my time outside building houses and then moved
inside and felt like I never worked another day in
my life because interior trim and like, there's there's an
art to it, like our our our people that do that.
We have over twenty h trim carpenters, and they're all
just a little bit different. They all have a little
bit of flare that they.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Can put on things.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
And uh, you know, if you turn these guys loose,
it's amazing what they can do. They can do some
really beautiful work. Uh, you don't wanna, you don't wanna.
There's a lot of things that aren't going to fit
into a seventies ranch that might fit into a nineteen
oh one Victorian, right, Like there's we know, there's different
ways to do things.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I trim has been pretty utilitarian.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
We've been in a trend where since probably the the
sixties seventies where it's we call it thin line. It's
two and a quarter inch wide, not super interesting. It's
like it's there but not wanting to be noticed. Like
you're I think that's what you're saying. And uh, lately
though the past few years, people are have been willing
(32:46):
to kick it up a notch and maybe get a
little wider with it. And now you can't you can't
go too crazy or it's not going to fit the house.
A lot of times, but I in our Monday morning meetings,
I was getting at when I when I'm when we're
talking When I'm talking about would work, I noticed Dale,
my electrician, his eyes kind of glaze over and he
takes a nap, and then he gets all excited when
he wants to talk about wire and the rest of
(33:07):
us go, uh, yeah, this is really boring.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
But but but needful.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
So there with trim work too, is there's a precision
there that that I think is often unappreciated. Like it's
nothing against framers and things, but framers do great work,
and they do.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Really but.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
It's not the same level of Again I don't think
person I'm going to get myself in trouble with them,
But like it's the the art of and the skill
that's required to do a good installation of trim is
it's a very high level and maybe not always appreciated,
and and that's probably a sign of of just the
great work that's done not fully appreciated always by folks.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
But to do.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Trim right, you really have to be a very skilled carpenter,
don't you.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
You do, I mean either either need to be very
skilled or you need to just an infinite amount of
time right.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
And so it.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Are we're always training new trim carpenters. They will get
better at at hanging a door, installing an into your door.
They'll get better at that for years, you know, and
that sort of base level, and so as they progress,
we're adding more onto their plate and and on our
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upper end, you know, they're doing we'll we'll do some
very fancy stuff and it's and it's but you know,
you sort of have to pay your dues and earn
your way up there, because it's just you're just not
I have the saying like when you when you first
start off doing that, I can teach you how to
cut aboard in a few seconds, but the wood won't
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do what you wanted.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
To do for a while.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
And I don't know what happens all of a sudden,
it just starts to early flowing.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
But it just takes a lot of time investment.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I watch, I'll get caught up in like these YouTube
shorts and like I I apparently because I do watch
uh a lot of like like like asked this old
house and this old house and those type of things.
So I'm kind of like in that thing. And there's
there's these ones that I really love where it'll it'll
be trim and it'll be like they're coming to a corner.
It'll be this very uh, it's got a really cool profile,
(35:16):
and they'll come to a corner and they'll bring the
two pieces together and then they're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Some some horizontal ones that could tie in with it.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
And like when they slide that all together and everything
is like it's like tight, there's no caps and it's precise.
I'm like that is beautiful, Like there's just like a
it really it's like wow, that is an amazing.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
And it's a culmination of a lot of skill and
yours at doing it and the right tools.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
It's a big thing there. So yeah, what.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
About let me ask about the design of trim as well.
Is is you were talking earlier different types of homes.
Trim is going to be different, and you want it
to work with that house and when you were work
with a designer, having an understanding of that space, trim
is again part of that conversation.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
It is you know, and it's kind of like like flooring.
We aren't going to get to flooring on this show,
but the Flippers and coming out of eight o nine
and all that, people did just enough to get buying
houses a lot a lot of times. So we'll walk
into a first floor of a house that'll have two
or three or four different types of flooring, and same
(36:26):
with trim.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Like whoever touched.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
It did whatever whatever they did, and maybe they had
a master plan, but it got abandoned and then somebody
else brought the house.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
And so we're finding.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
That, like it alluded to before, if you'd had a
kitchener model, it's probably going to touch the other areas
because you almost need to pick a theme and go, okay,
this is the direction we're going. We'll get a good
head start with this for model and maybe pick it
up later. And we've we've done several return customers return
trips now where we did a couple of bathrooms and
maybe the upstairs trim and then we come back into
(36:59):
the kitchen downstairs.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Now everything's say.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yes right right, talk you this morning with Mike Twoig
of edge Construction online Edge Construction Company dot com.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
That's all one word Edge Construction Company dot com. Great website.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yes, you can see some beautiful trim and other projects
as well, talking about some trends. All the popular stuff
you can see right at edge Construction Company dot com.
Also link there to Pinterest, Facebook, hows. That's a big one.
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six so eight six three six three three four three
that number six three six Edge talking this week about
(37:54):
some popular remodeling projects and trends and Mic real quick
over the holiday weekend. And I noticed, and I see
these from time to time, people would like the built
in vacuum systems, and I'm always kind of jealous of
those of these kind of boy, do we see like
ease of ease of clean like cleaning spaces? Is that
is that a trend at all where people are saying,
like whether it's having the built in vac system or
(38:17):
just having surfaces and areas that are like easy to clean.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Under and around and alongside, and a twelve.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Year old always just finished cleaning and it's ready for
another cleaning.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Yet well, you know, color makes a self cleaning toilet,
Like if I have a real bachelor, I think I'd
for sure have that.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
But yeah, I think all the surfaces, uh, you know,
there's there's there's uh. Generally the stuff that is lower
no maintenance cleans better. And I think that's that has
certainly been a trend, like people don't want to have
to do you know, a bunch of things to these
surfaces over time, or like granite got a little bit
(39:01):
of a bad rap because you got to you know,
you're supposed to treat it once a year.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
It's so easy to do.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
It should never stop anybody from buying a granite countertop.
But you know you don't have to do that with
the court stuff. So there's things like that. But all
of those surfaces and the paints have gotten better, and
the finishes have gotten better on the on the wood
floors and on the cabinets and things. So I think
all of that has moved in the right direction as
far as ease of cleaning.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Also, you mean you earlier about groud as well as
that's easier to clean now, isn't it It is?
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Yes, it comes pre treated, so you shouldn't have to
treat it. You used to have to, you know, clean it,
put some stuff on it, let it sit for a
while every year, and and it didn't work that great.
The new grouts are are are much better and even
the even the mortars that we apply tiles with, like
we mentioned before, are are much better, so you should
have less problems keeping that stuff clean.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
That's pretty pretty cool stuff you've been thinking about doing
that update, whether you think a kitchen, bathroom, basement, whole
home trim, all that great stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Six So eight six three six three three four three
that number.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Six three six Edge joined in studio this morning by
Mike two Egg, owner of Edge Construction.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Mike, how you been great, Seohn, It's good.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
To talk to you. We're going to kind of break
things down, get.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
In the year end spirit and uh starting a new
year and all that great stuff. So we're going to
talk about just kind of an overview of some of
the areas that are focused in oftentimes when more popular
areas when it comes to home remodeling. And the first
one on this list points out one that we've covered
a couple of different ways on this program is the
overall kind of that kitchen remodel, but really how to
(00:44):
do a kitchen remodel and everything that's the right way,
there's a wrong way, there's a.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Never gra if you can just snap your fingers and
turn around, oh my gosh, wouldn't it be done.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I think a lot people their kitchens is that one
of those rooms though, where people are oftentimes they don't
always fully you think about what all it goes into
a kitchen remodel.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Well, I think it's I blame TV actually always because
you know, they make it look so easy, like okay,
there's always a hiccup because you got to have a
little drama. But you know a half hour they largely
they peel stuff off, they put stuff on, they paint it,
and they throw.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
A little flooring. Yeah, and all of a sudden they
got in the kitchen.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
But yeah, it's it's it's I always think, okay, like
half the work to this, to remodeling anything, if you
do it right, the stuff that you don't get to see,
you know, it's it's stuff behind the drywall.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So with that and kind of as we talk about
break down some of these these kind of big, big
remodeling things that folks. Again, kitchen is one too that
you really want to get right. I was gonna say
the first time.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
You just want to get it right.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well, for a couple of reasons.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Right, It's it's expensive. I don't care what your budget,
if it's twenty grand or two hundred grand, it's still
a lot of money. And you know, you got the
pain suffering of being without your kitchen for a while,
and it's it disrupts your life. And and now I
can really tell people are sort of an It's it's
not just like like putting new tires on the truck,
(02:12):
is okay, what what's best for the house? And uh,
And that means it's probably affecting even more than the
kitchen A lot of times if you look at the
remodels that we do, like, Okay, we're doing the kitchen,
but we might we want some continuity here, so if
we're doing flooring in there, we might do flooring on
the rest of the first floor, or you know some
of those common areas. And so it's not it's not
(02:35):
just the kitches. Yeah, the short, long answer is how
do you how do you not go through this every
fifteen years?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Right?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
You got to pick some good products. You want products
that are going to last. There's a wide range in cabinets.
I know we've talked about it like crazy over the
past bunch of years we as a company. I mean,
like I I looked for that. I wanted to be attractive.
I want all the stuff that everybody else wants. I
(03:05):
want them to I want them to do what they're
supposed to do. I want to have options for them
on color and species of wood and the look, but
they really need to last because if if we're putting
in a product that needs to be replaced because it
fails in twenty years, that to me doesn't sound less
like a success.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Are we are?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
We kind of in a golden age or a good
time for kitchens. It feels like there as you talk
about some of those options and the quality that's out there,
it does seem like like in the past maybe there
were some compromises that needed to be made. Right now,
it seems like if if you're interested in doing it right,
there are no compromises. You can do a fantastic kitchen
(03:48):
remodel right now with some really amazing products.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
You can you know, I'll just touch on cabinets because
that is the going to flooring a little bit. But
you know, if you have a cabinet that's on the
lower end, you know, the particle board stuff, and we've
kind of poked fun at the picture would on the end.
It's really common, unfortunately, but when those cabinets are installed
(04:12):
brand new, they're gonna look like you know, they're gonna
look like a brand new car.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Like here, it's it's gonna look great. It's really not
enough for.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Us, Like I want that cabinet to look good ten
years from now, twenty years now, hopefully a lot longer
than that. And then you've got to pay a lot
of specific attention to how they're made and the products
that are used. So is it a golden age? Yes,
because for a long time, you know, we had trouble
even finding stuff that we liked. You know, we our
(04:44):
main manufacturer for for many years was Walburn Forest and
we still use their cabinets. They're about thirty percent of
our supply. It's a good cabinet. It's certainly upper middle
I would say, you know, on quality. But we we
talked to them about what we what we wanted when
we bought cabinets, and like they they accommodated us and
(05:05):
they made cabinets that that met our minimums at least,
you know, and like I said, we still put them in.
So there I have. I have those cabinets in my
house now. We now he our main suppliers turned into
a Wisconsin supplier. It's great northern cabinets up in Riblake, Wisconsin,
which I can make fun of Riblake, because those guys
(05:25):
are so far away they'll never hear it. Joe Wurz like,
go to the North Pole and then just keep going,
keep going for a while.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
It's it's up there.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
And they do a beautiful job, and I love how
they manufacture, and to us, it was a step up
in quality.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
We gained a bunch of other things with it because
we can customize their cabinets much more than we could
the standard cabinets that we had. So does that coming
a cost yep, it does. It's a little more expensive.
But those are the kinds of things I think. You know,
you need to have your eyes open when you're walking
into a model because you really don't want to do
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something that you're gonna have to replace in too short
a time.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
You know, when you talk about the the getting a
chance to tour up in rib Lake, Yeah, Cohler is
another one I know when it comes to fixtures and faucets,
that is I know you've talked about that, another Wisconsin
company and one that I know you've had a chance
to over the years.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Very much.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I say, familiarize yourself is beyond that. That's an understatement.
There's a reason why you why you.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
That's right right so about I believe the last stat
I saw was that about sixty percent of the plumbing
products in the US that could you get used in
our country come from China, good, bad, or otherwise.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I mean, I'm sure there's good products.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
It's a it's I'd be misspeaking if I said it's
a minefield. But it's a little bit of a minefield
for us. I get a lot of comfort out of
out of color as our standard, that's our starting point.
I just feel like we know the products. When we've
had issues, you know, it's it's they're usually fixed right away.
(07:08):
They've never balked at a warranty item. They're they're always
there to help us. They have such a wide range
of of product to shoes from. You've got all the
options you can imagine.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Uh we have.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
We have gone up there to to Cohler, just the
town as a company you can. You can go and
see all their stuff. They have amazing showrooms. We've had
We've had homeowners and customers of ours that have gone
up there and looked and and seen what's out there.
One of the one of the best times a year
for me is the builder show. This year is in
Vegas again and Cohler has I don't know, like a
(07:42):
city block there, and it's it's phenomenal because you you
can as designers and as a remiling company, we can
even get pigeonhole a little bit. We we find products
we like within their portfolio and we sort of go
to that's our comfort zone. And it's great for us
to go out there to the show and see everything
they have because it's usually amazing. You know, we try
(08:06):
to stay away from the real trendy stuff, but you
can see where the trends are moving out there, and
they they some years, not every year, they'll have actually
stand up comedians talking about their toilets.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
So that's really funny. Well around, the crowd enjoys it.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I speak of good products, it seems like I'll use
color as an example. I don't know how many fixtures
and faucets they're they're churning out a year at tens
of thousands, hundreds of thousands, maybe millions. Obviously out of those,
there's going to be occasionally things going on, and it
feels like kind of when you're judging some of these
these products, it's really when that that off one happens,
(08:49):
how they respond, how they react, and having somebody mentioned,
you know, whether it's relationships with the cabinet makers or
the or or the reputation of the company that's providing
you the faucets, having the say okay, this real, you know,
realizing if you're making a million widgets, there's gonna be
one that's not absolutely perfect.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
How do they respond to that? That's important part, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
It is?
Speaker 4 (09:09):
And you know I talk about Great Northern and Coroller
are too wonderful Wisconsin companies both though responsive that way.
And it's things happen, you know. I'd love to say
there's there's never a mistake. There's companies that are so
good in this business that they never mess up. But
the truth is, occasionally there's something that happens, and like
you said, it's how they respond.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
We I'll get and sometimes it's not their fault.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Sometimes we order something wrong and we have every check
and balance in the world, but it's human error happens, right.
We had a recent bathroom model where we ordered two
cabinets wrong. I'm embarrassed to say it happens like once
every year or two. We got on the phone with
Great Northern are our people that were helping us up there,
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and within I think it was a little less than
two weeks they churned out these two cabinets, got them
down to us, so that okay, it was an inconvenience
to the homeowner, you know, but it could have been
much worse. By two years ago, that might have been
a four or five or six month operation just getting
those two cabinets. So it's it's really great to have
these companies that are close that that will really help
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and respond to us.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
As we talk about this week about some popular remodeling
projects and trends that I've got to guess quality is
and that's got one of the greatest trends to come about,
is is people have that expectation of very high quality.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Well, I think yeah, because you're you're going through this right,
You're we talked about the time that you're going to
be out of this kitchen. You're you're investing some money
and it's not worth saving one hundred dollars on a
on a on a fixture right on a on a shower,
on a shower fixture or a sink fixture. Is it
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really Yeah, there's cheaper stuff out there. I think, and
you know it, some of that stuff might be right.
It's just like we like sticking with stuff we know
and and for all a myriad of reasons that that
quality on the cabinets thing, it's it's it's it's a
lot of times hard to use the budget to buy
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those better products. But you know, you don't want to
have How many Yugos do you see drive around.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
By the way, I've seen one of them. See when
I had a car, so so I was. I think
Folkswagen made him right. They were they were kind of
the cheapest. Well the thing I was that was another
thing out there. But the even when when they were new,
they appealed to people. So you can you can buy
this product that looks good when it's brand new. But
families are tough on kitchens. I'm sure your family stund
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sure was. And so yeah, the quality of the product
means a lot in our house.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
It's one particular person for you. It was a trio.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yes, I scene to remember hockey games or you know,
games of hockey in the kitchen when my wife wasn't looking.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
This word with like two Egolder of Edge Construction website,
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a great time to start that conversation, start planning for
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this note is about about choosing the best drain for
your shower. And I feel like drains are overlooked. Without
a drain, you have a flood.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Right, you got a big problem problem.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
And there are people are like, why would why would
anybody focus on a drain. It's amazing what one functionally,
what they can do, but also aesthetically, there are some
really good, uh good drains available out there, aren't there.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Yeah, that that is an interesting thing. So we do
quite a few full tile showers, like we used to
call mudset tile showers, where we'd actually build the base
of the shower out of out of it's like a
cement base. That's changed a lot over the years. And
how we do it now we use kind of a
combination of that and some pre made things and make
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it all work just like everything else. Drains and showers, Okay,
you sort of don't notice them, but life would be
inconvenient without it, or if it messes up. We've experimented
with a bunch of different things, so a common one
would be a kind of a smaller center drain. As
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we've gotten fancier with these showers and bigger with these showers,
you need pitch on that floor to get water all
the way to that center. And there's times where people
are like, well, I don't know if I want a
two inch pitch in my shower, what other option do
I have? While we can put a tray drain in,
or a linear drain they are sometimes called, so it's
a long kind of maybe three or four inches wide,
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a long drain. It could be against a back wall
a shower. Some people don't want to stand on a drain,
so that we'll do something like that. Much trickier installs,
by the way, that once you get away from the
normal little guy in the middle, things get a little
get a little little trickier, and you need a really
good trained installer to do that kind of thing. It's
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not just about looks when it comes to water, it's
got to function well. And so there's times where we go, Okay,
we've got two supplies coming to this big shower. We've
got a we've got a rain hat in the middle,
We've got normal showers.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
On either end.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
It's a lot more water coming in here, so we
need to upsize everything. Upsize the drain, upside the pipes.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Things like that.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Are people sometimes surprised that that's part of the conversation, Like, yeah,
I would have never thought about thinking about drain options,
but it is something you want.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I'm laughing because I'm thinking of people that are going, oh,
I know I have to make another decision.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I gotta pick one more thing out. My head's gonna explode.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
But yeah, you can do that. I mean, there's some
cool stuff with drains too. Now we've got tile over drains,
meaning you can you sort of don't It looks like
it looks like maybe you forgot the grout in one
spot and that's where the water goes down, and so
you leave some space, but you're basically tiling over the
top of that drain. It could be a linear drain,
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or it could be that small one in the middle. Again,
you're you're stepping up the skill level of the install
and you really want to make sure you're using good
products when you do this.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
One one final thing on drains as well. I know
with a lot of folks, especially as as we get
a little older, not having to step over even a
small little you know, a couple of inches is a
bent is definitely beneficial and desirous. And some of these
options for drains as well can literally make it so
it's like a seamless transition between outside of the shower
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and inside of the shower.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Yeah, and you're talking about like a Kerblish shower or
things like that. Yeah, it's that is a trend that
I really I love the look and it makes a
lot of sense to me. It's it's houses aren't built
to accommodate that very often, and you know, if you're
building a new house, it would be kind of east
as you do to accommodate for that. There's things you
(16:02):
could do and when you're framing that house and building
that floor system to accommodate the zero zero threshold, what
we certainly have done is putting us put a smaller curb.
So maybe instead of like that, you know, when I
when I started in construction, it seemed like all those
curves were four or five inches tall, and it's like,
(16:23):
I don't know why they were done. We didn't have
to building that tall, so but you certainly can do
a smaller curb even even we've put in some some
handicap friendly uh that's the term they use. Uh. So,
so it's a it's a small off curve. You can
get a you can get a fiber glass unit. We did
one that was I think around eight feet wide. It
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came from Cohler. It was maybe six ft deep, so
it's a really good sized shower. So somebody could actually
this person was in a chair could roll over the
top and it was just like a one inch curve
nic So as a way to get in there safely.
Still worked really well. We didn't have to anything fancy
you with reframing the floor or anything. So there's a
bunch of options out there for that.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Talking this morning with Mike two Egg of Edge Construction,
we'll can tell you a conversation about some popular remodeling
projects as well as trends I get into a glasswork
as well as tiles. Since we've kind of touched on
some of the bathroom spaces. We'll definitely get into those
areas this morning as we talked with Mike two Egg
of Edge Construction. The website Edge Construction Company dot com.
That's all one word, Edge Construction Company dot com. Telph
number six O eight six three six three three four
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to three that number six three six Edge. More of
Homer Modeling Show with Edge Constructions next here on thirteen
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Great website if you had had a chance to head
on over there, great way to spend a little bit
of time. Check out some of cool projects. Also some
(17:46):
links there Pinterest, How's Facebook all the really cool things
I mentioned, How's as well? Really good place to get
some ideas for remodeling. You just head on over to
Edge Construction Company dot com. Link right from there a
teleph number six O eight six three six three three
four three that number six three six Edge. With the
new year and years wrapping up and all that fun stuff,
kind of going over some of the popular remodeling projects
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and trends, and we started talking about drain tiles in
the shower, which again very important part is maybe something
you don't always think about. One of the areas that
I have noticed mic has become very popular and it
kind of ties in with some of the options for showers,
shower drains, those type of things. The type of glass
work and I don't know what the exact industry term
would be for that, but like the surrounds and things
(18:31):
or the areas around the shower and using glass and
custom glass, and it's so many great benefits to it,
including not only does it look great, makes the room
seem more open, more spacious, which in the bathroom you
really want. That's become a very popular thing, hasn't it, Mike?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It is?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
And do you do you have in your house? You
have the the you have glass doors on.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Your We don't at all.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
But you know, I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
The old ones with the rail when.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Like the and the thing the framer out like slide it.
After about twenty years, it's.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Like even those have gotten nicer. But certainly the trend
is towards what what you were trying to come up with,
was we call frameless glass. That's it, yes, and so
it's it's you sort of get rid of all that
track stuff and and now you have a door that
swings out and and it's much simpler looking but much nicer,
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and so uh, there's there's and it's customizable. So our
our I'll give Todd a plug. At mid Wisconsin Glass eight,
they do almost all the glass in town and even
outside of Madison. They do a bunch really good people
and and they'll come and we will we will talk
them through and sort of design and place what we
want the glass and these showers to look like. And
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so it's it's they have great ideas, a ton of options.
We've had people find really interesting things on online on
house or in Pinterest, and hey, can we make a
look like that? And he always has a solution for that.
And so that custom glass size, Okay, you knew the
greatest shower in the world, all the beautiful tie work,
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and if nobody can see it because you had this
weird door in front of it, it's not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
So trends in the trends in.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
That glass certainly more open. Twenty years ago, the custom
showers we were doing, the custom houses we were working on.
The showers by by today's standards, looked more like caves.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
You sort of walked in.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
There was sort of an entrance, but a lot of
tile maybe even tile walls, and yeah, you lit it
up in there, but you still felt like you were
in a in a tunnel. Kind of The trend now
is okay, get rid of those walls. We're going to
glass everything. Uh, And it's a much nicer situation.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And it is as we talk about some of those
some of those options for the glass and having a
custom done. It's am I am I wrong in this
too since it's become more popular. It's the prices is
and how would I describe a competitive It's it's you
know again, it's not we're not talking about this is
not something that's like, oh.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
It's not just the bus.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
No, yes, there is cost, but it's definitely become more
of a more of an achievable, more of a more
of something that that fits in a lot of budgets.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Is it is?
Speaker 4 (21:14):
And we when we're trying to price things, okay, you
you can we could go one way and price everything
at sort of the on the lower end, okay, and
and then and then make you upgrade every time you
go up.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
And I think it's dishonest.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Really, I mean you're if so, our base pricing would
have uh, frameless glass in there. I mean, because we
know that's what people are going to tend to want
and want to go for, and so you know you
just have to make room in.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
The budget for that right away. Has it has.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Gotten cheaper, I wouldn't say that, but it's it certainly
hasn't gone up like on the scale of anything else.
It's it's sort of just maintained its pricing, and so
maybe that's why it feels like it's everything else has
gone up. But but yeah, and and you know some
of the options that we've done, I mean, you can
there's a lot of things you can pick for that glass,
a lot of different looks you can get. You can
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have clear glass, which is probably the best thing.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
We we, by the way, get factories treated glass. And
it's remember the uh if you ever stayed anybody's house
that had a squeegee in their shower, you'd have to
squeeze heat or wipe down the glass because it's spotted
so bad. Yeah, the new the new stuff doesn't it's
it's much better about that. And so I was one
of the kicks. It's like the stainlessteel appliance thing. You know,
like people liked it, but they felt like they were
(22:38):
cleaning it all the time. The new stuff is much better.
It doesn't show quite as much and so pretty handy.
Oh and we've also done some you know, you can
do a band of cloudy glass in the middle.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
The important area, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
And uh, or you can you know, you can do
you can do ring glass, you can do there's a
bunch of different things you can do.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Oh, really, can you do weighty glass? Could you get
like a design yes, yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Yeah, there's like it's pretty much any any any glass
that out there is an option for this now it
seems like and so just called Todd's.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Running with my doing of edge construction online, Edge Construction
Company dot com. All one word edge Construction Company dot com.
Why glass because you want to show off the tile
work and that brings us to our to our next,
our next trend and uh project is the right tile
and very very cool and very customizable. And I had
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a lot of character with tile, especially in showers. What
a what a great great area that's that's become.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Yeah, most people view a tile, I hope is changing
based on the options that we have now.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Uh, there's there's.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
People that come in so you know, I had tile
my last house. I didn't really like it, and I'm
and what they really didn't like is the big grout joints.
That's that's kind of gone by the wayside. Uh, the
trend is not there. Also, you know, the new products
you don't have to treat so they don't get they
don't get dirty like the old stuff did, and much
easier to clean. And one one thing that I'm noticing is,
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you know tile in the past, it always looks so perfect, right,
every tile out of the box would look exactly like
the last one. And the trend is really kind of
not that way. And I forget what the term as
they call it. But when they fire them now, they're
they're making sort of imperfect tiles. They're not perfectly flat,
they're not they have some personality to them. And uh,
(24:31):
one of the one of the one of the tiles
that has made it into our lineup, or just the
style of tile. It's like I think it's a four
inch square tile, but it's got a lot of flavor,
the color changes in it, and it's every color you
can imagine. But even within if you pick up blue
and it's it goes from different shades of blue, and
they're all just a tad bit different, and when they
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fire them, that just kind of come up and so
it it doesn't look I don't know if I'm describing
this right, but it's got it's perfectly imperfect.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I guess some of that combat and and I know
with with tile is I think people like that clean look,
but sometimes it almost feels like it gets too sterile.
It's like some of that that character there to kind
of maybe offset a little of that, kind of make
it feel a little bit more comfortable, a little bit
more personal, a little more a little more like home.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I mean I I did it. Yeah, Yeah, that's it's
it's so cool.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
And I will mention, by the way, the website Edge
Construction Company dot com. You want to see some pretty
amazing tile work, head on over there. Check out the
portfolio I'll start linked to house. You'll see some really
really cool things and a very popular option in those showers.
I even call it an option. I think it's probably
every I think every shower I've ever seen. You guys
do is the knooker than the niche niche yes.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, and even you know, it does take a little
effort to put the niches in, but people really love
them and they've become a design element too. A lot
of times we'll do an accent in the niche, so
it's the base level of tile is one style, and
maybe there's something special in that niche.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
It's it's uh.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I pick on our designers because I'm like, can't you
design a shower with an easy nitche, like you know,
maybe one twelve by twelve niches right in the middle,
that'd be awesome, But no, they they like to do.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
You'll see niches that are the length of the shower.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
You'll see niches that we might have two or three
in there that are staggered. Kind of An interesting one
that showed up in the last few years is a
small niche down low, maybe a foot off the floor,
where when you're shaving your legs shot, you can put
your foot in there and do that. I said, well,
if I ever, if I want one for myself, I
want one about about headhi thing and put my mirror
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in there to shave it. And that's an issue. We've
done that actually a couple of times too. So there's
it's it can be. There's a lot of different ideas
float around.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Does with does that require special framing. I've got to
guess that part of how you guys design that is
to not.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Really if there's a if there's a if there's a
two by four in the way in the in the
spot of the niche, which we can we can cut
that out and and block.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
For the niche.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
If it just if it falls within a stud space,
which is if we design things right and built it right,
that's what that's what will happen.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
We actually make those out of it's a Shlooter product.
It's the orange stuff that goes behind all the tile
if you're watching the TV shows. But Shooter now they
have it's called Curdie board and it's like insulation board,
but it's got there Curdi fabric on the front of it.
And we actually now custom make our own niches out
of the curty board.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
It's a great.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Substrate for doing doing towel work on and so uh,
you know, you get super flat, clean lines, a little
bit of insult extra insulation never hurts either, and so
uh that's turned out to be a great option.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Certainly not in the shower.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I don't think anybody's complaining that the shower has got
a little extra insulation. By the way, have the you
mentioned shlouter and some of the you know, some of
the other techniques. Is I think one of the old
concerns with with tile as well was as things age
is becoming loose or things settling, these modern part products
and not just what's behind it. But I correct me
(28:06):
if I'm wrong. Even the stuff you're using to attach
the tiles and and and and doing the joint is
much more better about about holding for a very long time,
is that right?
Speaker 4 (28:18):
So one of the one of the issues had been
in the past. If you look at when we're going
in and tearing out an old shower, you know, you
look at that that that tile shower anything, Well, this
is impervious.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Well if you the mortar, which.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Is kind of a cement product, that's what you attach
the tiles with UH to the substrate, and then you
you fill in those joints, right, you murder those joints.
If you look at that under a microscope, you're gonna
see it's not impervious. It's not perfectly flat. It's there's
a lot of air and concrete and so uh, moisture
can current of work its way through that, and what
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would happen is moistured work his way through that and
get whatever was behind it.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
A lot of times it was plywood.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Or or whatever it was back there that would hold
that moisture. And then you can actually rot that mortar
and that would happen in tiles would be popping off.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
And so with the new.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Products we have they allow for less of that that migration,
that wicking whatever goes through there. And then basically the
shooter prouct the orange stuff is a membrane like that's
really your shower. So I kind of have this thing
with our people now I say, okay that the waterproofing,
the membrane is, that's the shower, and the artwork is
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the tile it goes on top of it. And it
kind of gives you a different perspective when you're doing
this tower. So it places a lot of importance on
doing that background stuff right because if water does make
its way through there, you certainly want it to stop
at the.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Memory important perspective there for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
As I talk this morning with Mike two Weeg Order
of edge Construction, check out some of those bathroom remodels.
Just head on over to Edgeconstruction Company dot com. That's
Edgeconstruction Company dot com. You can take a look at
the portfolio there. You can also link to their house
page and there are dozens and dozens and dozens of
bathroom ideas, some really great stuff at their house page
for Edge Construction. Just head on over to Edge Construction
(30:07):
Company dot com. We'll continue our conversation.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
We'll talk more.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
About some of the popular remodeling projects and trends we're seeing.
We'll do all of that next as the Homer Modeling
Show with Edge Construction continues.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Right here.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
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Dolph number six O eight six three six three three
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about popular remodeling projects and trends. And I'm kind of
giggling because I read the note just before, just before
(30:40):
we came on air here about interior and interior trim,
and the first line says trim is often subtle unless
it's done wrong, And.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I said, so true.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Epic fails out there by the way, go on, like, uh,
there's Facebook pages just on weird people, weird things people
have done with interior trim.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
And I still remember over a decade ago, first time
you and I ever met learning about trim and and
talking about the work that you guys do at edge construction.
Trim is again, it's something that's probably completely underappreciated. And
it's maybe I don't know if it's the fact that
it's that it's it's it's beautiful but subtle, if that
(31:24):
makes sense. Is it's there is an art to to trim,
Isn't there There is?
Speaker 4 (31:28):
And there's there's a lot of traditional things that help
you right kind of dos and don'ts. Almost I I'm
laughing because in our in our Monday morning meetings, we
have you know, a bunch of different people in there.
And uh, I grew up as a trimmer.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I mean I was.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I've spent my time outside building houses and then moved
inside and felt like I never worked another day in
my life because interior trim and like, there's there's an
art to it, like our our our people that do that.
We have over twenty h trim carpenters, and they're all
just a little bit different. They all have a little
bit of flare that they.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Can put on things.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
And uh, you know, if you turn these guys loose,
it's amazing what they can do. They can do some
really beautiful work. Uh, you don't wanna, you don't wanna.
There's a lot of things that aren't going to fit
into a seventies ranch that might fit into a nineteen
oh one Victorian, right, Like there's we know, there's different
ways to do things.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I trim has been pretty utilitarian.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
We've been in a trend where since probably the the
sixties seventies where it's we call it thin line. It's
two and a quarter inch wide, not super interesting. It's
like it's there but not wanting to be noticed. Like
you're I think that's what you're saying. And uh, lately
though the past few years, people are have been willing
(32:46):
to kick it up a notch and maybe get a
little wider with it. And now you can't you can't
go too crazy or it's not going to fit the house.
A lot of times, but I in our Monday morning meetings,
I was getting at when I when I'm when we're
talking When I'm talking about would work, I noticed Dale,
my electrician, his eyes kind of glaze over and he
takes a nap, and then he gets all excited when
he wants to talk about wire and the rest of
(33:07):
us go, uh, yeah, this is really boring.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
But but but needful.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
So there with trim work too, is there's a precision
there that that I think is often unappreciated. Like it's
nothing against framers and things, but framers do great work,
and they do.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Really but.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
It's not the same level of Again I don't think
person I'm going to get myself in trouble with them,
But like it's the the art of and the skill
that's required to do a good installation of trim is
it's a very high level and maybe not always appreciated,
and and that's probably a sign of of just the
great work that's done not fully appreciated always by folks.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
But to do.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Trim right, you really have to be a very skilled carpenter,
don't you.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
You do, I mean either either need to be very
skilled or you need to just an infinite amount of
time right.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
And so it.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Are we're always training new trim carpenters. They will get
better at at hanging a door, installing an into your door.
They'll get better at that for years, you know, and
that sort of base level, and so as they progress,
we're adding more onto their plate and and on our
(34:24):
upper end, you know, they're doing we'll we'll do some
very fancy stuff and it's and it's but you know,
you sort of have to pay your dues and earn
your way up there, because it's just you're just not
I have the saying like when you when you first
start off doing that, I can teach you how to
cut aboard in a few seconds, but the wood won't
(34:45):
do what you wanted.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
To do for a while.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
And I don't know what happens all of a sudden,
it just starts to early flowing.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
But it just takes a lot of time investment.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I watch, I'll get caught up in like these YouTube
shorts and like I I apparently because I do watch
uh a lot of like like like asked this old
house and this old house and those type of things.
So I'm kind of like in that thing. And there's
there's these ones that I really love where it'll it'll
be trim and it'll be like they're coming to a corner.
It'll be this very uh, it's got a really cool profile,
(35:16):
and they'll come to a corner and they'll bring the
two pieces together and then they're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Some some horizontal ones that could tie in with it.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
And like when they slide that all together and everything
is like it's like tight, there's no caps and it's precise.
I'm like that is beautiful, Like there's just like a
it really it's like wow, that is an amazing.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
And it's a culmination of a lot of skill and
yours at doing it and the right tools.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
It's a big thing there. So yeah, what.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
About let me ask about the design of trim as well.
Is is you were talking earlier different types of homes.
Trim is going to be different, and you want it
to work with that house and when you were work
with a designer, having an understanding of that space, trim
is again part of that conversation.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
It is you know, and it's kind of like like flooring.
We aren't going to get to flooring on this show,
but the Flippers and coming out of eight o nine
and all that, people did just enough to get buying
houses a lot a lot of times. So we'll walk
into a first floor of a house that'll have two
or three or four different types of flooring, and same
(36:26):
with trim.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Like whoever touched.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
It did whatever whatever they did, and maybe they had
a master plan, but it got abandoned and then somebody
else brought the house.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
And so we're finding.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
That, like it alluded to before, if you'd had a
kitchener model, it's probably going to touch the other areas
because you almost need to pick a theme and go, okay,
this is the direction we're going. We'll get a good
head start with this for model and maybe pick it
up later. And we've we've done several return customers return
trips now where we did a couple of bathrooms and
maybe the upstairs trim and then we come back into
(36:59):
the kitchen downstairs.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Now everything's say.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yes right right, talk you this morning with Mike Twoig
of edge Construction online Edge Construction Company dot com.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
That's all one word Edge Construction Company dot com. Great website.
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Yes, you can see some beautiful trim and other projects
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Also link there to Pinterest, Facebook, hows. That's a big one.
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(37:33):
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(37:54):
some popular remodeling projects and trends and Mic real quick
over the holiday weekend. And I noticed, and I see
these from time to time, people would like the built
in vacuum systems, and I'm always kind of jealous of
those of these kind of boy, do we see like
ease of ease of clean like cleaning spaces? Is that
is that a trend at all where people are saying,
like whether it's having the built in vac system or
(38:17):
just having surfaces and areas that are like easy to clean.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Under and around and alongside, and a twelve.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Year old always just finished cleaning and it's ready for
another cleaning.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Yet well, you know, color makes a self cleaning toilet,
Like if I have a real bachelor, I think I'd
for sure have that.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
But yeah, I think all the surfaces, uh, you know,
there's there's there's uh. Generally the stuff that is lower
no maintenance cleans better. And I think that's that has
certainly been a trend, like people don't want to have
to do you know, a bunch of things to these
surfaces over time, or like granite got a little bit
(39:01):
of a bad rap because you got to you know,
you're supposed to treat it once a year.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
It's so easy to do.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
It should never stop anybody from buying a granite countertop.
But you know you don't have to do that with
the court stuff. So there's things like that. But all
of those surfaces and the paints have gotten better, and
the finishes have gotten better on the on the wood
floors and on the cabinets and things. So I think
all of that has moved in the right direction as
far as ease of cleaning.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Also, you mean you earlier about groud as well as
that's easier to clean now, isn't it It is?
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Yes, it comes pre treated, so you shouldn't have to
treat it. You used to have to, you know, clean it,
put some stuff on it, let it sit for a
while every year, and and it didn't work that great.
The new grouts are are are much better and even
the even the mortars that we apply tiles with, like
we mentioned before, are are much better, so you should
have less problems keeping that stuff clean.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
That's pretty pretty cool stuff you've been thinking about doing
that update, whether you think a kitchen, bathroom, basement, whole
home trim, all that great stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
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Speaker 1 (39:58):
I'll get to pick a phone, give a call six
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