Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Homer Modeling Show, brought you by Edge
Construction Online Edge Construction Company dot com. It's all one
word Edge Construction Company dot Com. Ar telfhe number six
so eight six three six three three four thread that
number six three six edge match the website Edgeconstruction Company
dot Com. You can see some recent projects. They're also
links to some really good resources their Facebook page, Pinterest.
(00:21):
The coolest one though, from Edge Construction Company dot com
is that link to hows h Ouzz. You can see
a bunch dare I say hundreds, thousands, might be thousands,
a lot of pictures, but I think we have over
two hundred projects on hows and that is my favorite
place to go to see our stuff because it's.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Sort of, I don't know, it's like just a fax man. Yeah,
you get there and.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
You can, uh, you can find what you're looking for.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
You can see all our kind of recent projects in
our timeline and maybe where our designs have gone over
the last few years or several years. But for me,
like when I'm when I'm on there and I have this,
uh I was called the picture in your head. Okay,
so we've got to do ah, We've got a u
a a lower level coming up where homeowners want some
(01:10):
kind of statement uh statement things down there, like they
want a wet bar. But it's but it's also got
to be I'm going to build a custom wine storage
rack in our shop. And then you know, they gave
us some inspiration pictures, so like uh that I can
go to house and go, okay, this this kind of
style influence this this particular product I want to look
(01:31):
at and I want to find a wine rack, a
custom wine rack, or some some custom wall treatments, like
we want to do some unusual wood background like behind
the TV and and a fireplace, and how is very
helpful for that because there's just a kajillion picture It's
turned into this clearinghouse for everything homeowner e and remodeling.
(01:55):
You know, if you want to find pictures, that's the
place to go.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
It is a and it's it's cool to see that
stuff in Obviously there's two different levels too, multiple levels,
and I think with everything obviously in remodeling, but like
it's funny when as as a homeowner what I see
and then as a as a builder what you see
and what your designers at edge construction see as well.
Mic is everybody kind of has that like with hows like,
(02:18):
it's very useful on a number of levels. So like
I look at things and I say, well I like this.
I like that As a designer, you know your designers
looking and say okay, this is their type of style.
And then as a building you say, this is how
I can make this work and how I can put
this all together.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
It's a really cool starting point for a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
It is, and and it's even you know, morphed into
a lot more because like our designers will have a
library built for a project or for a homeowner, but
also they've got when they're doing research, they might see
something cool that maybe doesn't fit that and they'll drag
that into their just general library. And so we end
(02:55):
up with these kind of a great resource of general
libraries that we can from and now you can even
find source products on how so it's a great resource.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
It's born with my two week owner of Edge Construction
online Edge Construction Company dot com. That's on one word
Edge Construction Company dot com, dolph a number six O
eight six three six three three four three at number
six three six edge.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I always start off the show by introducing you, Mike,
and I realized, I'm like, been doing this twenty years
close it feels like we've been what ten fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I think we're thirteen or fourteen maybe something like that.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
That's all we look, we found a way to get
better looking, and look we're getting taller. Yeah, And I
always feel I always introduce you, and I'm like, I
think most people know who you are. At the same time,
it's like you never know when you're gonna get a
new listener to the program. And as I mentioned, if
(03:48):
you are new to the show, I hope you check
out edge Construction Company dot com. But even if you
are a regular listener, definitely urge you to hat on
over this week because we're going to talk about a
recent project a little bit later on the program that
they posted up at a construction company dot com. But
this week we're going to be talking primarily about remodeling
a kitchen and some of the things to consider when
you are doing a kitchen remodel, and kind of big
(04:10):
quit picture questions about about kitchen remodeling, and Mike, before
we kind of dig into the meat of this topic,
just kind of an overview of kitchen remodeling. It's that
seems to be one of those spaces where you can
really really make a huge impact on the entire usability
of the entire home by simply putting some time and
(04:31):
thought and do a really really well remodeled kitchen.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
You can and when we say kitchen model, okay, there
we do some like straight out replacements, you know, where
we just remodel the kitchen. Most of the time it's
affecting more of the what we call it common areas,
so like the area that's your your friends and relatives see.
So it might be a great room combination kitchen or
or great room dining room kitchen, or those those spaces
(04:56):
on that in that main level that's friends are in
relative So, like I said, sometimes it's like, okay, we
we don't have a lot of options or budget to
take down walls and to rearrange things. Uh so we
come in and just replace stuff. But most of the
time we're kind of we're we're affecting all those other
areas because we're coming out of an of an era
(05:19):
of you know, the last fifteen years, it got really
popular for the flippers. You know, the TV shows were
out there and they Madison was not immune. And you
can always tell sometimes too when when somebody's doing something
just to sell a host, like they they might put
in some some new floating floor. But you know, if
(05:40):
I'm looking at it, I can see the difference between
a professional install and something that was kind of a
weekender or or the flippers. And so if you're if
if a new homer comes in, they're like, Okay, we
want to do the kitchen, but we want to also
get some continuity here. You know, maybe we don't want
three different kinds of flooring in our main level. We
want to we want it to look, you know, like
(06:00):
it's supposed to look. And the same goes for you know,
you can pick make some choices there. Like it's been
really popular for us to uh do a switch from
kind of old dark stained trim to maybe some some
lighter stuff or some white some white doors and base
and casing and paint the windows, and so it gives
(06:23):
that whole area kind of a new look.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You were talking too about. You know, to your eye,
you'll see it right away. As far as like things
like flooring and other things. And I know the big
box stores they're always running some special on some type,
but you know, and they make it all like you'll
see videos there and they're like, oh, this is super
duper easy, right, and.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
You know it is right, Yeah, I mean so in theory.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, if you look at the we call it the
click flooring, it's the you snap it together. In theory,
there's just a huge range and quality of that flooring.
So generally to do a really good job of installing
that glory, you got to go through all the pain
of installing a really good floor that's going to last
a lot longer, and that installation means something. So that
(07:09):
on the lower end, so the vinyl plank flooring has
been really popular. We've done quite a bit of that,
But the products you make a difference because the where
it clicks together it's kind of a locking joint. Some
of that stuff that's on the lower end it's sort
of a compressed cardboard locking joint. Over time, you know,
that stuff really expands and contracts, and walking on it
(07:32):
and kids and dogs and the whole thing. Uh, those
those joints start to not hold and so like to me,
anything that doesn't last is not a very very smart
choice really, I mean, it's just getting you over the
hump a little bit, And so I'd much rather put
in a little better product, a really good install and
shoot for a long life on that product.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
What about anything about to the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You know the amount of my wife I'm trying to
remember she was upset me at me for I was
I putting on or drying dishes while they were still wet. Anyway,
there was drips getting on the on the floor. I'm like,
I never thought of it, but but kitchens do you
know whether it's spills or just careless husbands drying dishes
the wrong way. Kitchen floors and all the surfaces on
(08:17):
a kitchen do experience a lot of a lot of
different different things, including moisture, and you really want to
make sure you know proper installation and the type of
whatever you're using on the floor can withstand those those
type of things as well.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, and and so okay, the the the dripping moisture.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Didn't you just put.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
In a new floor a couple of years ago?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, did you put in a final plank.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Or it was Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And if you read the the package on that stuff,
it says it says water resistant. Probably they wouldn't say
waterproof because that you know, Yeah, that's absolute and we
can't do that. But generally what they're saying, Okay, if
you got a five five gallon pail of water, you
dunk that stuff there, you're not gonna wreck it. Okay,
but that isn't There are cracks in that floor that
(09:04):
water can go through, so a few drips, you know,
I don't know. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna argue
with the rules at your house, but it should should
really be able to handle normal things. Now, if the
if you're if you leave, if the boy leaves, mets leaves,
the fuss it on and then sink runs over and
you wake up in the morning, you got a problem.
It's going to create a lot more problems than than
(09:26):
than we're thinking. So yeah, I think actually, if you
it brings up a point I'm skipping way ahead. But
at the end of our model, you're whoever does this
work for you should be able to tell you, like
how what this can handle and how to care for it.
And I notice a lot of wear and tear on cabinets,
especially around like a stove and a sink. Okay, that
(09:47):
moisture is very tough on finishes and you know, if
if you're sink is anything like ours, it's you just
can't help. But it's gonna get it's going to get
all over. And so the wood finishes, you make sure
you clean that stuff up. And even like the uh,
the stained cabinets are making a comeback, by the way,
(10:07):
to me, they're a little more durable. Should I'm saying
that wrong. The if there's a if there's a scratch
or an issue with a stained cabinet, it's not quite
as visible as if you scratch your painted cabinet. So
you got a custom painted cabinet, get scratched up. Okay,
now we got a problem. And so there's a little
little movement back towards the stained cabinets. They're not the
(10:29):
dark stuff that we were doing twenty years ago. It's
it's really nice colors, really good finishes. But I even
suggest to homeowners, okay every few years, really clean these
and we call them spray bombs. It's like a like
a polytop coat. You can buy them at any any
any hardware store. Just just spray another top coat on there,
(10:51):
maybe sand it a little bit, Spray little top coat
on there. It'll make those cabinets last a lot longer.
It's something that you're not really able to do with
painted cabinets. But like I said, you're you're a model.
Whoever you bought these from should be able to tell you, Okay,
do this, don't do that.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Is there two way when you mentioned stoves, I think
of like, you know, you're cooking some some cheeseburgers and
who doesn't love to make Yeah, and you get a
little splatter here and there. And of course you're cleaning
and there's cleaning products out there. Not all of those
you want to be using. I know, obviously depending on
the finish on your appliance, but you also want to
be conscientious of the finishes on your on your on
(11:26):
your cabinets and other things as well when you're using
that stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, there's some really harsh stuff out there that can
can dull your change your finished, like dull ith there's finished.
There's cleaners out there that will actually take paint off. Yeah,
and maybe not like you know, not like not like
stripper or taking it off like or it bubbles and
comes off. But just it's picture this as just microscopic
layers that you're removing every time you do this. So
like even the countertap. People say no, just water, okay,
(11:53):
or something really mild, you know, don't don't get too
hot and heavy with the with you know, a brillapad
or something, I don't know, something really really heavy.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Dish soap and warmwater go a long way.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yes, yeah, mild, Yeah, very good stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Talking this morning Mike two week, owner of edge Construction online.
Edge Construction Company dot com. That's all one word, Edge
Construction Company dot com. We'll get into the meat and
potatoes up the kitchen.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
We will do that next.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Of course, if you haven't been to the website yet,
head on over there now Edgeconstruction Company dot com. That's
Edgeconstruction Company dot com. A little bit later on the program,
we'll talk about a recent addition project that they completed
at edge Construction one. How beautiful it is. Talk a
little bit too about the timeline and what all went
into the planning and design of that. You're definitely going
to head on over to Edgeconstruction Company dot com think
about doing someper modeling.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
They'd love to talk with you right now.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Six o eight six three six three three four three.
That's the number for Edge Construction at six oh eight
six three six three three, four three so easy remember
that six three six Edge and more of the Homer
Modeling Show with Edge Construction comes your way next right
here on thirteen ten Wuiba. This is the Homer Modeling
Show brought to you by Edge Construction Online. Edge Construction Come.
That's all one word Edgeconstruction Company dot com. Great website
(13:03):
to learn more about Edge Construction. Also see some recent projects.
As a matter of fact, you want to check out
the recent addition project we when we're talking about that
a little bit later on in the program. Right now, though,
we're talking kitchens kitchen remodeling, and kind of laid things
out in that first segment just about some of the
some of the things that go into a kitchen remodel
and also some of the things to be aware of
if you if you are doing doing a remodel. And
(13:25):
and Mike, one of the nice things about remodeling is,
especially if you've been in your house for a while,
you have an idea of what works. But you also
have and I've learned this from you folks, often have
a pretty good idea of what's not working. Is that
kind of one of those one of those areas where
like when people come to you guys originally and say
we like this house, we love our certain parts of
(13:45):
our kitchen, but there's a big kind of maybe a
pinch point or some other issue that kind of starts
that and drives that conversation.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I think that's much more the I hate this part
of my house is much more powerful than the I
love this yeah, because it does drive a lot of
wanting to get things fixed. And I think it's super
healthy for somebody to live in a house for at
least a couple of years, because if nothing else, it
ups you prioritize.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Right, there's always work to do in a house.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It's just a never any thing. But you know, when
when we first move in, maybe you're thinking it's the bathroom,
and then you know, after a year agoing, you know
what this bathroom is. Okay, nobody ever sees it, and
we want to hit our kitchen. So like, kitchen is
the probably the biggest ticket item normally because you're you know,
(14:34):
it's it's not just like okay, let's uh, let's put
in some really build or grade type cabinets. It's not
usually people are past That's one of the things I
don't like about my kitchen, right, is that it's it
somebody didn't do a great job when it was originally
built or or remodeled, and so if you're going to
go through the process of actually tearing it all apart,
(14:55):
you want to get it right this time. And so yeah,
it's really healthy to spend a lot of time think
about that. And Okay, somebody like us or our designers,
we can walk through and we're going to go, oh,
there's there's some I know what I would fix, right,
but it's great here from a home were also you.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Get homeowners that are pairing oftentimes or a model with
new appliances and other things or is that kind of
split fifty to fifty or oftentimes the keeping what they
currently have or out is.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
That yeah, actually, most of the time owners are getting appliances.
You know, they say, like if your appliances are over
eight years old, it's worth it based on cross savings
on energy. So the new appliances are much more efficient,
they're really they're really nice. Like that's a that's a
(15:43):
section a sector of the of the building of the
home building business that I think has improved in the
last maybe five years. Especially the quality of the appliance
has gotten much better and the the the options that
you can get. And so a fair amount of our
kitchener models, maybe twenty percent are because they can't fit
(16:05):
a normal sized fridge, right. So like so if you're
living buy a house maybe downtown, some of these smaller houses,
they originally were built and built for a small fridge,
maybe a thirty inch wide fridge. And when you go
shopping for new appliances, like ninety nine percent of the
choices are in thirty six inch wide fridges. So you
just aren't able to get what you want, and that
(16:26):
usually leads some remodeling or we've seen many times where
we where we coming to do the kitchen and the
maybe the appliances have been replaced already, I want to
use those. Obviously, the new fridges maybe a couple of
inches too tall for the opening, and so they've they've
(16:47):
pulled cabinets off, they've made do. But yeah, appliances in
kitchen definitely.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Go together with that stuff too.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
As we talked morning than Mike two Egg, owner of
Edge Construction, think about about those type of you know,
different different types of applying it's as different options.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
I know.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
The other thing, the other area that's really become very
very cool. Is the specialized areas for different types of cooks,
different types of activities that are going to go, whether
it's adding you know, a standalone double oven or something
like that, or but also I know you guys have
like folks that are like, hey, we you know, we
entertain a lot. Maybe have like a wine cooler that
(17:21):
matches what we have. Those type of things are really
able to be incorporated into and very nicely incorporated into
a new role model, aren't they They are?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And you know, if you start looking at we just
did one recently where built a standalone pantry. It's more
like a mini kitchen almost, and it has a bevridge
in there. And when the horner is looking for bevridges,
I think they were kind of shocked. You can get
(17:51):
us a normal size, twenty four inch wide BEV fridge,
but you know, beer and wine and pop whatever you
want to put in their water fits underneath the countertop
and some of us can hold one hundred and seventy
and up cans of whatever, And so there's really some
cool options for that. And it's sort of plug it
(18:12):
in and forget. It's one of the appliances you just
don't have to do much with I did want to
hit to some of the innovation that's happening in appliances
because it's you know a lot of people thinking, oh,
stove is a stove, of a fridge is a fridge.
Well some of those new We installed the double eleven recently.
That literally that the cook top you can you can
(18:35):
have them. You can communicate through Wi Fi. You can
start your stove warming up through an app on your phone.
You can tell what's going on in there. You can
say you've got a meat thermometer in a roast. You
can be at the office and go, I'm gonna I
better knock this down to one hundred degrees and maintain
temperature or crank it up. It's not gonna be ready.
It's probably been a while since we talked about the stovetops,
(18:59):
like the cook tops. Were you going to ask about induction?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I was exactly what I was going to ask about.
And and this is really revolutionary as far as kind
of the best of all worlds, isn't it It is?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And you know, we we had I don't know when
it was a year or two ago. Some bad press
came out on on gas stoves right, do you guys
have a guess?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
We do?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
We do?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I'm gonna I'm gonna make you nervous.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
So I thought, kind of like everybody else, that this
is just the garment sticking their nose in. But the
truth is, Okay, when I took some classes, got some education,
uh it was really on other things. It was on
indoor air quality and HVAC systems, and but it led
into discussions about about about about gas stoves. And you go, well, okay,
(19:47):
I know for years the gourmet cooks, the really good cooks,
and really just a lot of people really like cooking
on a gas stove. It's sort of instant heat controls
really well. But if you look at how much CO
two that's putting into your house, it's like having up
you know, twenty smokers in there basically, and uh now
(20:08):
you're shopping but or and and think about it as
it's not a very efficient transfer of heat, right because
you got the flame going, you put this the pot
down and you're just watching flames go all around it, right,
and that he is just radiating off that stove, and
so you got to have a really good sized fan,
(20:31):
right pulling air out of your house. Well, if you
do that, you know, you put an eight or ten
inch hole inside your house. You look a big fan
up to it and you just pump air out and
it's a ten bow zero. That means some tembo zero
air is going to come back in. So that is
are some issues when the when the glass cook tops
have been around for a long time. Now we've got induction. Uh,
(20:53):
induction is I'm not even sure how to describe it.
It's it's just the most efficient answer a heat. So
like if you have if you put a pan up there,
it's the pan has to hold a magnet.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
That's part of the deal.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Don't ask me why, I'm not you know, you got
to read the science, I guess. But it will immediately
start heating.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Up that that pan.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
The transfers from the element to the pan through the glass.
If the if you turn it on and put your
hand on it, it will not affect you unless you ever
bring on your finger.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Don't do it with a ring anything.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
But it's very interesting technology and it's super efficient. There's
really no wasted energy getting the heat to the pan,
and it's very controllable. It's very stable.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
When I first and before I understood kind of how
they worked. I thought, people are it's an induction of it,
as I thought, are we talking about Remember like friends
I growing up with, they'd have like the glass top,
but it was still like a heat there was a
heat element in there that heated up the glass.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
And that's not what we're talking about here.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
This is literally like an electronic element under there that
when you put that pan on, the heat is actually
being generated in the pan and not on that surface,
right is that kind of.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, not a surface.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I mean, actually the heat from the pan will heat
up the glass, but it's not the element that's heating
up the glass. And so, like I said, it's just
a super efficient way to do it. One drawback on
the on the old one glass top ones that I
remember was you you'd set it and you'd see the
red it would start to heat up, right, and then
it would get kind of too hot that it would
cool back down, and then it would heat back up.
(22:26):
And so is this constant fluctuation and temperature which you
don't get with the induction. The induction is you said
it it's going to stay where it's at forever. Like
it's just amazing amazing new technology.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Does it require special wiring or it does not know.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
No, it's a I mean it's a it's a two
twenty so, but a lot most stoves are two twenty
so it's a pretty much a just replacement for what
we already have.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Is that something when when folks are I think about
all the things that that we don't know, and I
will definitely lead that crowd of things I don't know?
Is that's something that that comes up during design and
other conversations for kitchener model is like there are other
different options out there, like what are you looking to.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Do in this space?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
And here's what here's some of the options, some of
the things to consider. And you know, I think for
a lot of folks listening this morning not even realizing
that induction was an option, or not even realizing oftentimes
what the great benefits are having that conversation or informing
folks about that.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, I think it's a really good idea from our side.
Is you know, because a lot of people when they
do or model it, they've dreamt of having.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
One or the other.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Generally, Yeah, so if they if they had if they
had electric, now they you know, they want gas or
at least they want to be pipe for gas so
in case they decide to go that route someday, which
is there's nothing wrong with that, but it is on
us to say, hey, you know, have you heard of this?
And this is why it seems like it's here to
(23:50):
stay and there's there's more of this coming. So it's
like said, very interesting tech.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I know you were talking a number of years ago
about some different we talk about different ways to vent
cooking surfaces, and you had mentioned a while ago about
surface level that I was watching a thing on tiny
homes and this It was this guy that just reviews
like Airbnb, tiny holmes, and he was at one that
(24:17):
had one of those systems, and he was and everyone
should be amazed. Was just amazed by how and speaking
of technology that you may not know exists for folks
that may be looking for different options and different ways
to control that that's smoke and steam. There's a lot
of options out there as well in that area, aren't there?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
There are?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
And I guess we can talk, we can kind of
veer the conversation because so, like you've probably heard of
Jena Air Appliances, right, sure, So jen Air was and
it is they kind of pioneered that surface level of ventilation.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
I never liked. I was as a carpenter.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I was like, no, because now we have to figure
out how to get you know, pipe from here and
down and out. Well, we've moved way past that and
now it's just a standard, and I like that that ventilation.
I want to talk a little bit about. Okay, you've
got a for a standard, for a standard inductions cooked top.
(25:15):
We can vent with a six inch pipe, So that's
a six inch hole in your house, someway that you're
pumping that air out. A bat fan is generally four inches,
so that's that's puming out. So when we're when we're
designing heating systems, now we have to take an account
for that. We call it makeup air, which means we've
got to cut another hole in your house and bring
that air in because we don't want to just filtering
(25:38):
through your walls in your house, like creating negative pressure
if you turn on all these fans at once, in
effect to create negative pressure that pulls colder air or
hot air in. I don't know if I'm making sense, Yeah,
but now we can bring in that makeup air and
there's some somewhat new tech out there called er V.
It's an energy ventilation recovery. So what this does is
(26:02):
it brings in let's say in the winter, it's bringing
in cold air. It goes into this unit and it
crosses with exhaust air that's going out, and the exhaust
air heats the cold air coming in. It's about ninety
percent efficient, so you're not bringing in fully colear. And
then the really great benefit of it is we can
put a very a very good filter in that machine,
(26:26):
so filtering out allergens and small particles and dust particles
and things like that. So you bring in really fresh air.
You got all these benefits of fresh air without the
negatives of bringing some of that outside stuff in with it.
And there's research coming out now that shows reduction in
the effects of allergy use and allergens by using the RVs.
(26:48):
These things are, by the way, it's not super expensive unit.
They're about a thousand dollars for the unit. Obviously it's
got to get piped in that adds quite a bit.
But for you know, you start looking into this somewhat
new area of indoor air quality and.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Just the health of all of us.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Uh, you know my kids, Uh you know I would
have benefited from this flash air. You know, it's just
an interesting thing. You look at how much you know,
two even people have produced in the house, so like, well,
we want to take this into consideration when we're when
we're touching these systems. Hey, maybe there's a few I
don't want to say minor upgrades, but not major upgrades
(27:29):
that can really make a house more comfortable.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
That's pretty cool that that's that's out there. That's a
really cool.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
It's also one of those things like why did somebody
else think of earlier? And like why didn't I think
of that?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
We just didn't have time, didn't get there. But I
think you know now, that's why I say it list this,
this appliance conversation is more than just uh well, I
like cookout of this right, cooking on that, because now
we've got to decide how we're gonna uh deal with
the air.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
More than the shiny things you see, take care would
do so much.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yes, it would be.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yes, it would be talking this morning with Mike two Eg,
owner of Edge Construction. The website Edge Construction Company dot com.
It's all one word, Edge Construction Company dot dot com.
Great day to give them a call six O eight
six three six three three four three that number six
three six Edge we continue a conversation on kitchens. We'll
do that next is the Homer Modeling Show with Edge
Construction continues right here thirteen ten WYBI. This is the
(28:22):
Homer Modeling Show brought you by Edge Construction Online, Edge
Construction Company dot com. It's all one word Edge Construction
Company dot com. Dolphin number six O eight six three
six three three four three, then number six three six
EDGE talking kitchens this week. And I just kind of
look at some of the notes and one of them
says a function versus aesthetics, and that kind of ties
in with where we left off in that last segment.
(28:44):
Is there is the beauty, but there's also the function
when it comes to a kitchen.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
And I think of the.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
First thing I'd asked about, and it kind of pops
in my head and we were talking kitchens too. Is
kind of their changing role? Is is the long Obviously
the all min function for a kitchen is to to
prepare food, but the reality is, you know, whether it's
get together's company over family, kids doing the homework in
the kitchen. Kitchens have become a really vital part of
(29:12):
every home and really making sure that you have a
good balance between not only does it look great, but
it actually is workable. That is something that I think
you know, obviously the designers at Edge Construction spent a
lot of time working on isn't it?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
It is?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
And you know that when you're when you're designing, we
talk a lot about we're kind of designing in houses
areas for people to congregate. Now, yeah, you've you've got
to be able to do the stuff that a kitchen
isn't meant to do. That that's kind of a given.
But okay, how do we now tweak those designs so
that it works better but also is attractive and serves
(29:50):
more people and and does this job of of the
as a social space also? And uh where maybe kids
doing homework or I don't know, matt'son never do homework
at the kitchen island?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Oh yeah, somewhat common.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Right, It's the only place we can keep an eye
on him because if he goes back to his desk
in his in his bedroom, you'll go back there, off, Yeah,
he'll have his phone in his hand.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
It's like, dude, you got to get yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
So yeah, yeah, So it's all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
And I think like, uh, this has been a great
bunch of years for our designers because when when I'm
thinking back to the eighties and the even nineties when
we were when we were doing these jobs, the idea
then was to get as much storage as you could.
I mean you you kind of pack cabinets in everywhere
(30:38):
you you you just got more, more and more cabinets.
And now we routinely have customers that are willing to
give up some upper cabinet space to put in a
bigger window or or take out a wall to have
the kitchen join another room a little more. And knowing
that they're going to give up some storage, there a
(30:59):
possibility for some us on that side or count top.
You look at how many of our kitchens have open
shelves in them. Well, those are less functional, right than
a cabinet you can just pack full of stuff. Yeah,
you know, but it looks nicer, it makes people feel better.
So and you know, you're also hitting things with lighting,
and we don't have to take any back seats on that.
(31:21):
We can really light stuff now and change how that
space feels.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
One of the things that and it's been probably ten
years now, but I remember the first time I started
seeing kitchens where like they wouldn't have covered space above
the counter, and it was such like a mind shift
to me.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
It's like you should have cabinets.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And like I've loved you were mentioning earlier about you know,
maybe adding a bigger window in that stuff. And I see,
you know a lot of the kitchener models you guys
are doing at edge where there's space is like that,
and just how much bigger and how much nicer that
space suddenly becomes because you've put a bigger window in,
because you've maybe removed some of the cabinets and found
more efficient, better ways to kind of manage that the
(32:03):
you know that that storage and the outcome that aesthetic
is is obviously the aesthetic is great, but you're still
managing to retain function as well.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Oh yeah, and and you know, people figure it out.
I'm thinking of one of the my favorite kitchens that
we did. It's a kind of a near West side
and we actually worked on that house I think three times.
Actually bathrooms and we did some outside stuff and then
we did the kitchen and it's a very small kitchen.
(32:32):
I was probably half the size of rumors it No,
it's very small. And in my mind when I walked
in there, I thought, Okay, we're gonna have to get
cabinets up, and the owners like, nope, I don't want
any upper cabinets.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I'm like, you already have a tiny kitchen.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
And we did open shelves, did and and you know,
when I've talked to them after that time, they're.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Like, they love it. They wouldn't change a thing.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Now they are paired down to just the things they
need to get the job done in that kitchen, you know.
They and they have some a few extra store in
other areas of the house. Was just they were limited
in size. We couldn't really make it bigger. But the
esthetic part of it, they really wanted it pleasing. They
entertain a lot and it's a real statement piece and
it's it's pretty cool and I'm really happy it worked
(33:16):
out for him.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Have we seen a shift like that where folks are
I just just by nature kind of pairing things down.
I remember it feels like in the eighties and nineties
and even the early two thousands, like kitchen gadgets like
you had like a million of them and you needed
a place for it seems like I don't see that
as often anymore. If I do, like folks have maybe
one like an air fryer, or we've got maybe some
(33:37):
type of you know, if we're a baker or something,
maybe they've got a mixer.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
But I don't.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
See like it used to be just a billion different
little game.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I've I'm a poke of my wife here. Yeah, I remember,
like I'd be in the kitchen and I'd see some
new gadget.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I'm like, which one of your friends started selling paper chef?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
But because it was really common, right like, like you said,
the gags were really popular. And now I think right
the the I don't know, the the little bit younger generations,
let's call them, uh, they they're less into that. I
think it's uh, I see a move towards quality stuff,
(34:15):
like they might they might spend more money on less things,
but have them, you know, be really good quality. Do
dads to help you cook in the kitchen, and so
that that's a healthy thing. I think we all, you know,
we all have too much of the sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
And you think about yes, because I also think some
of it's lesson learned. How many different gizmos and gadgets
have purchased over the years.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
That end up like are you using one time or
something you have.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Only end up on a shelf.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
So yeah, that's that's really really good to see. One
quick thing too, as we talking about kitchens, you were
talking about induction ovens. I know on a previous show
you had mentioned with countertops, not the same technology but
kind of the same. Is like with your phones. If
you've got like a phone that can do wireless charging
you were talking about phones. If you've got that, you've
got countertop options where folks can just kind of set
(35:02):
them down and they charge just by sitting there.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Well, we actually now are offering it. We have the
sample of it in our showroom. So I mean, it's
awesome until you know it's pricey, but it's cool.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
There are people that want it, and the more power
to them. I don't know how to describe this. So
we saw it first at the International Builder Show maybe
two years ago. It just took this long for it
to get to the retail stage. And actually the countertop
manufacturers are our countertop people have to offer it and
they've got to install it because what they do on
(35:38):
a stone countertop is they router out maybe a ten
inch by twelve inch location on any counter top, They
thin down that countertop and the unit sort of sits
up in there, and then basically if you run your
phone over the top of this over the top of
this rectangle, a little led light will show up around
(36:02):
the edges, so you know where to put it, and
then it'll start charging right through the countertop and it'll
charge anything that's charge. You can put your laptop, you
can put your your your earbuds or or phones obviously,
and things that no chords. So I want it, but
I don't know if I want it bad.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Have you know you've got the Have you had, folks,
have you had you had a chance for somebody to inst.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Just starting right now, like we just got the got
the where we can show it. We got some kind
of a display and so you can see the workings
of it. And then we've got it hooked up on
our showroom. So it's a very cool thing. And like anything,
probably a year or two down the road, maybe it'll,
uh it'll get more price to that, I guess, but uh,
(36:44):
it's pretty cool tech, and I think it. One of
the reasons is that it is a little more expensive.
Is that this can't be a cheap product because you're
going through all this effort. It fits in a specific
space that they wrote a underneath countertop. So if this
thing fails out for a couple of years, they're going
to be in big trouble. So it's a very well
made product, very very high end charger.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
One of the things that do I and along those
lines is we're talking about kitchens and and well made stuff.
Real real important to mention is we kind of touched
on it with Flores is when it comes to kitchen especially,
you don't want to really be cutting course with quality.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
You know, by the way the the I have seen
it in at the shows also where they've taken the
induction units and done the same thing underneath stone countertops
and and people actually cooking right on the car tops.
Really yeah, because it's basically is heating up the the
pan through the cortop doesn't heat the countertop, I mean,
(37:43):
you know, other than in reverse. And it was really cool.
I don't know if it's kind of gimmicky. I want
to see where it goes, if it's actually going to
be a thing, But I thought it looked really neat.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
We're going to reach a day where your kitchen is
literally just going to be one countertop and jets'.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Well on our way.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
It's great day to have that conversation, but thinking about
doing some upgrading and doing a remodel of your kitchen
or any space around your home. Mike's team at Edge
Construction love to talk with you. You can learn more online
the website Edge Construction Company dot com. That's all one word,
Edge Construction Company dot com. Even better, pick a phone,
give a call six so eight six three six three
three four to three that number six three six Edge.
Hope you had on over Edge Construction Company dot com
(38:20):
because we're talking about a recent edition that they've that
they've completed at Edge and they've posted up at Edge
Construction Company dot com. Or get the details from Mike.
We'll do that next as the Home Modeling Show continues
right here on thirteen ten do w UIV eight. This
is the Hovermodeling Show brought you by Edge Construction Online.
Edge Construction Company dot com. It's all one word Edge
Construction Company dot com. Great website, as a matter of fact,
(38:41):
head on over there now go to their project, their portfolio,
check out this edition, because we're going to talk about
it's titled edition.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
That's that Edge Construction Company dot.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Com telp number six so eight six three six three
three four to three that number six three six Edge
and Mike. Before we get into this specific project, as
we do talk about bigger stuff on the show from
time to time, edition and other other things in whole home,
you know, building new homes as well with Edge construction.
As we're talking today and I'm looking outside, it's a
beautiful day. Now is the time to be thinking about
(39:09):
if you're going to be doing a project like that
like this, starting the plan, starting the conversation now for
a project next year, right.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
That bigger stuff. I don't really like doing additions in
the in the winter winter because it generally means we're
open up the house to the elements, you know, and
so uh and and plus like you know, we're paring concrete,
we're taking holes, we're making messes. It's less efficient and uh.
(39:38):
But the biggest thing is like, do we really want
to cut a big hole in this house when it's
temblow zero?
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Not really?
Speaker 4 (39:44):
So now is the time.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Now's the time.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
And it takes a while to plan these things. I mean,
you know these these will you know, it doesn't seem
like it should.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
But it's it's we.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Don't rush that upfront process and design so that the
homer sets that pace and it generally takes at least
a few months to get to contract on these. So
it's a good time to talk about it now.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
So as we look at that, as I look at
this one and the space there, the thing that is
it's for folks that haven't had a chance head on
over to the website. This space is it's it's a
nice size, but it really feels much more spacious because
of the ceiling. Let's talk about I think it's hard
to ignore that ceiling like it is it is.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
It is gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, so we did a did an open ceiling in there,
and so uh fireplace goes all the way up into
the peak. I was telling Sean during the break. We
so it's got a fireplace and the uh and a
mantle and a and a TV on that. And you know,
I'll looking at the end of that job and that
that mantle is actually made out of concrete.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
I didn't really and we stained it to kind of
match the beams in there. So oh by the way. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
So I don't think I've talked about you before, but
those beams are actually foam really, so yeah, one person
with one hand can pick up a twenty foot long
beam and it's it's stained. I mean, you really can't tell.
If you do a great job of installing, which our
guys did. They look like wood beams, but you don't
have all that weight up there. Plus wood, you know,
(41:17):
expands and contracts more and you can get cracks and
things like that, and so that's been a revolutionary for
us to get what we need and get the look
that we're after. And so yeah, it's some interesting products
in there.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Well, we talk about those those different types of projects
and different things where I know we were talking kitchens
earlier and one of the things that came up was
you don't know until you don't know, and we talk
about some of these you know, some of these different
materials and some of the advances.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
You look at this beautiful space.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
And you know, you think everything is you know, those
are real wood up there, and that's that's a real
wood mantle, and you realize you're getting the benefit of
they look great, but you're also getting all the other
things which is durability you mentioned.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Of course the weight.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Of an actual would beam would would probably require quite
a bit more, a bit more up there and being
able to do that stuff with this what kind of
drove this this project?
Speaker 4 (42:07):
What was could you remember what the what the bugs
were looking.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
At this home?
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Just was they needed you know, houses get designed and
built and this is really not that old house, maybe
seven or eight years old, and uh, it's got a
beautiful big kitchen, and the great room is a little
bit like if you top down looking at you like,
the great room is just a little bit undersized, like
it's just not enough space there. And so they were
looking for another area that for people to go and congregate.
(42:34):
And then it, uh, you know, it's a very nice house.
And so they can tell by the addition that we
did some cool things in there. So we had match
kind of match the finishes on the house. They had
beautiful big backyards up in the forest and like the
vaulted ceiling. This this probably came out of you know,
we found some pictures on house or we were on Pinterest,
(42:57):
or we saw with had friends that had this look.
They liked the look, and okay, just getting all these
elements in there. Yeah, anybody can do that, but get
having everything in in perspective and in the right ratio.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
I think. I think it's what makes it come together.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Make your great room the greatest room.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
And that's they were looking to do. You check that
out online Edgeconstruction Company dot com. That's Edgeconstruction Company dot
com looking to do an edition. Maybe you're looking to
do a kitchen remodel, bathroom model, or any type of project.
And Mike the team at Edge Construction love to talk
with you. I gotta do this morning. Pick up a phone,
give a call six so eight six three six three
three four three that number sixty three six edge.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Of course, Edge
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Construction brings you the Homer Modeling Show right here on
thirteen ten WIB eight
This is the Homer Modeling Show, brought you by Edge
Construction Online Edge Construction Company dot com. It's all one
word Edge Construction Company dot Com. Ar telfhe number six
so eight six three six three three four thread that
number six three six edge match the website Edgeconstruction Company
dot Com. You can see some recent projects. They're also
links to some really good resources their Facebook page, Pinterest.
(00:21):
The coolest one though, from Edge Construction Company dot com
is that link to hows h Ouzz. You can see
a bunch dare I say hundreds, thousands, might be thousands,
a lot of pictures, but I think we have over
two hundred projects on hows and that is my favorite
place to go to see our stuff because it's.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Sort of, I don't know, it's like just a fax man. Yeah,
you get there and.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
You can, uh, you can find what you're looking for.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
You can see all our kind of recent projects in
our timeline and maybe where our designs have gone over
the last few years or several years. But for me,
like when I'm when I'm on there and I have this,
uh I was called the picture in your head. Okay,
so we've got to do ah, We've got a u
a a lower level coming up where homeowners want some
(01:10):
kind of statement uh statement things down there, like they
want a wet bar. But it's but it's also got
to be I'm going to build a custom wine storage
rack in our shop. And then you know, they gave
us some inspiration pictures, so like uh that I can
go to house and go, okay, this this kind of
style influence this this particular product I want to look
(01:31):
at and I want to find a wine rack, a
custom wine rack, or some some custom wall treatments, like
we want to do some unusual wood background like behind
the TV and and a fireplace, and how is very
helpful for that because there's just a kajillion picture It's
turned into this clearinghouse for everything homeowner e and remodeling.
(01:55):
You know, if you want to find pictures, that's the
place to go.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
It is a and it's it's cool to see that
stuff in Obviously there's two different levels too, multiple levels,
and I think with everything obviously in remodeling, but like
it's funny when as as a homeowner what I see
and then as a as a builder what you see
and what your designers at edge construction see as well.
Mic is everybody kind of has that like with hows like,
(02:18):
it's very useful on a number of levels. So like
I look at things and I say, well I like this.
I like that As a designer, you know your designers
looking and say okay, this is their type of style.
And then as a building you say, this is how
I can make this work and how I can put
this all together.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
It's a really cool starting point for a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
It is, and and it's even you know, morphed into
a lot more because like our designers will have a
library built for a project or for a homeowner, but
also they've got when they're doing research, they might see
something cool that maybe doesn't fit that and they'll drag
that into their just general library. And so we end
(02:55):
up with these kind of a great resource of general
libraries that we can from and now you can even
find source products on how so it's a great resource.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
It's born with my two week owner of Edge Construction
online Edge Construction Company dot com. That's on one word
Edge Construction Company dot com, dolph a number six O
eight six three six three three four three at number
six three six edge.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I always start off the show by introducing you, Mike,
and I realized, I'm like, been doing this twenty years
close it feels like we've been what ten fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I think we're thirteen or fourteen maybe something like that.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
That's all we look, we found a way to get
better looking, and look we're getting taller. Yeah, And I
always feel I always introduce you, and I'm like, I
think most people know who you are. At the same time,
it's like you never know when you're gonna get a
new listener to the program. And as I mentioned, if
(03:48):
you are new to the show, I hope you check
out edge Construction Company dot com. But even if you
are a regular listener, definitely urge you to hat on
over this week because we're going to talk about a
recent project a little bit later on the program that
they posted up at a construction company dot com. But
this week we're going to be talking primarily about remodeling
a kitchen and some of the things to consider when
you are doing a kitchen remodel, and kind of big
(04:10):
quit picture questions about about kitchen remodeling, and Mike, before
we kind of dig into the meat of this topic,
just kind of an overview of kitchen remodeling. It's that
seems to be one of those spaces where you can
really really make a huge impact on the entire usability
of the entire home by simply putting some time and
(04:31):
thought and do a really really well remodeled kitchen.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
You can and when we say kitchen model, okay, there
we do some like straight out replacements, you know, where
we just remodel the kitchen. Most of the time it's
affecting more of the what we call it common areas,
so like the area that's your your friends and relatives see.
So it might be a great room combination kitchen or
or great room dining room kitchen, or those those spaces
(04:56):
on that in that main level that's friends are in
relative So, like I said, sometimes it's like, okay, we
we don't have a lot of options or budget to
take down walls and to rearrange things. Uh so we
come in and just replace stuff. But most of the
time we're kind of we're we're affecting all those other
areas because we're coming out of an of an era
(05:19):
of you know, the last fifteen years, it got really
popular for the flippers. You know, the TV shows were
out there and they Madison was not immune. And you
can always tell sometimes too when when somebody's doing something
just to sell a host, like they they might put
in some some new floating floor. But you know, if
(05:40):
I'm looking at it, I can see the difference between
a professional install and something that was kind of a
weekender or or the flippers. And so if you're if
if a new homer comes in, they're like, Okay, we
want to do the kitchen, but we want to also
get some continuity here. You know, maybe we don't want
three different kinds of flooring in our main level. We
want to we want it to look, you know, like
(06:00):
it's supposed to look. And the same goes for you know,
you can pick make some choices there. Like it's been
really popular for us to uh do a switch from
kind of old dark stained trim to maybe some some
lighter stuff or some white some white doors and base
and casing and paint the windows, and so it gives
(06:23):
that whole area kind of a new look.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You were talking too about. You know, to your eye,
you'll see it right away. As far as like things
like flooring and other things. And I know the big
box stores they're always running some special on some type,
but you know, and they make it all like you'll
see videos there and they're like, oh, this is super
duper easy, right, and.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
You know it is right, Yeah, I mean so in theory.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, if you look at the we call it the
click flooring, it's the you snap it together. In theory,
there's just a huge range and quality of that flooring.
So generally to do a really good job of installing
that glory, you got to go through all the pain
of installing a really good floor that's going to last
a lot longer, and that installation means something. So that
(07:09):
on the lower end, so the vinyl plank flooring has
been really popular. We've done quite a bit of that,
But the products you make a difference because the where
it clicks together it's kind of a locking joint. Some
of that stuff that's on the lower end it's sort
of a compressed cardboard locking joint. Over time, you know,
that stuff really expands and contracts, and walking on it
(07:32):
and kids and dogs and the whole thing. Uh, those
those joints start to not hold and so like to me,
anything that doesn't last is not a very very smart
choice really, I mean, it's just getting you over the
hump a little bit, And so I'd much rather put
in a little better product, a really good install and
shoot for a long life on that product.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
What about anything about to the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You know the amount of my wife I'm trying to
remember she was upset me at me for I was
I putting on or drying dishes while they were still wet. Anyway,
there was drips getting on the on the floor. I'm like,
I never thought of it, but but kitchens do you
know whether it's spills or just careless husbands drying dishes
the wrong way. Kitchen floors and all the surfaces on
(08:17):
a kitchen do experience a lot of a lot of
different different things, including moisture, and you really want to
make sure you know proper installation and the type of
whatever you're using on the floor can withstand those those
type of things as well.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, and and so okay, the the the dripping moisture.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Didn't you just put.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
In a new floor a couple of years ago?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, did you put in a final plank.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Or it was Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And if you read the the package on that stuff,
it says it says water resistant. Probably they wouldn't say
waterproof because that you know, Yeah, that's absolute and we
can't do that. But generally what they're saying, Okay, if
you got a five five gallon pail of water, you
dunk that stuff there, you're not gonna wreck it. Okay,
but that isn't There are cracks in that floor that
(09:04):
water can go through, so a few drips, you know,
I don't know. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna argue
with the rules at your house, but it should should
really be able to handle normal things. Now, if the
if you're if you leave, if the boy leaves, mets leaves,
the fuss it on and then sink runs over and
you wake up in the morning, you got a problem.
It's going to create a lot more problems than than
(09:26):
than we're thinking. So yeah, I think actually, if you
it brings up a point I'm skipping way ahead. But
at the end of our model, you're whoever does this
work for you should be able to tell you, like
how what this can handle and how to care for it.
And I notice a lot of wear and tear on cabinets,
especially around like a stove and a sink. Okay, that
(09:47):
moisture is very tough on finishes and you know, if
if you're sink is anything like ours, it's you just
can't help. But it's gonna get it's going to get
all over. And so the wood finishes, you make sure
you clean that stuff up. And even like the uh,
the stained cabinets are making a comeback, by the way,
(10:07):
to me, they're a little more durable. Should I'm saying
that wrong. The if there's a if there's a scratch
or an issue with a stained cabinet, it's not quite
as visible as if you scratch your painted cabinet. So
you got a custom painted cabinet, get scratched up. Okay,
now we got a problem. And so there's a little
little movement back towards the stained cabinets. They're not the
(10:29):
dark stuff that we were doing twenty years ago. It's
it's really nice colors, really good finishes. But I even
suggest to homeowners, okay every few years, really clean these
and we call them spray bombs. It's like a like
a polytop coat. You can buy them at any any
any hardware store. Just just spray another top coat on there,
(10:51):
maybe sand it a little bit, Spray little top coat
on there. It'll make those cabinets last a lot longer.
It's something that you're not really able to do with
painted cabinets. But like I said, you're you're a model.
Whoever you bought these from should be able to tell you, Okay,
do this, don't do that.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Is there two way when you mentioned stoves, I think
of like, you know, you're cooking some some cheeseburgers and
who doesn't love to make Yeah, and you get a
little splatter here and there. And of course you're cleaning
and there's cleaning products out there. Not all of those
you want to be using. I know, obviously depending on
the finish on your appliance, but you also want to
be conscientious of the finishes on your on your on
(11:26):
your cabinets and other things as well when you're using
that stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, there's some really harsh stuff out there that can
can dull your change your finished, like dull ith there's finished.
There's cleaners out there that will actually take paint off. Yeah,
and maybe not like you know, not like not like
stripper or taking it off like or it bubbles and
comes off. But just it's picture this as just microscopic
layers that you're removing every time you do this. So
like even the countertap. People say no, just water, okay,
(11:53):
or something really mild, you know, don't don't get too
hot and heavy with the with you know, a brillapad
or something, I don't know, something really really heavy.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Dish soap and warmwater go a long way.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yes, yeah, mild, Yeah, very good stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Talking this morning Mike two week, owner of edge Construction online.
Edge Construction Company dot com. That's all one word, Edge
Construction Company dot com. We'll get into the meat and
potatoes up the kitchen.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
We will do that next.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Of course, if you haven't been to the website yet,
head on over there now Edgeconstruction Company dot com. That's
Edgeconstruction Company dot com. A little bit later on the program,
we'll talk about a recent addition project that they completed
at edge Construction one. How beautiful it is. Talk a
little bit too about the timeline and what all went
into the planning and design of that. You're definitely going
to head on over to Edgeconstruction Company dot com think
about doing someper modeling.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
They'd love to talk with you right now.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Six o eight six three six three three four three.
That's the number for Edge Construction at six oh eight
six three six three three, four three so easy remember
that six three six Edge and more of the Homer
Modeling Show with Edge Construction comes your way next right
here on thirteen ten Wuiba. This is the Homer Modeling
Show brought to you by Edge Construction Online. Edge Construction Come.
That's all one word Edgeconstruction Company dot com. Great website
(13:03):
to learn more about Edge Construction. Also see some recent projects.
As a matter of fact, you want to check out
the recent addition project we when we're talking about that
a little bit later on in the program. Right now, though,
we're talking kitchens kitchen remodeling, and kind of laid things
out in that first segment just about some of the
some of the things that go into a kitchen remodel
and also some of the things to be aware of
if you if you are doing doing a remodel. And
(13:25):
and Mike, one of the nice things about remodeling is,
especially if you've been in your house for a while,
you have an idea of what works. But you also
have and I've learned this from you folks, often have
a pretty good idea of what's not working. Is that
kind of one of those one of those areas where
like when people come to you guys originally and say
we like this house, we love our certain parts of
(13:45):
our kitchen, but there's a big kind of maybe a
pinch point or some other issue that kind of starts
that and drives that conversation.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I think that's much more the I hate this part
of my house is much more powerful than the I
love this yeah, because it does drive a lot of
wanting to get things fixed. And I think it's super
healthy for somebody to live in a house for at
least a couple of years, because if nothing else, it
ups you prioritize.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Right, there's always work to do in a house.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It's just a never any thing. But you know, when
when we first move in, maybe you're thinking it's the bathroom,
and then you know, after a year agoing, you know
what this bathroom is. Okay, nobody ever sees it, and
we want to hit our kitchen. So like, kitchen is
the probably the biggest ticket item normally because you're you know,
(14:34):
it's it's not just like okay, let's uh, let's put
in some really build or grade type cabinets. It's not
usually people are past That's one of the things I
don't like about my kitchen, right, is that it's it
somebody didn't do a great job when it was originally
built or or remodeled, and so if you're going to
go through the process of actually tearing it all apart,
(14:55):
you want to get it right this time. And so yeah,
it's really healthy to spend a lot of time think
about that. And Okay, somebody like us or our designers,
we can walk through and we're going to go, oh,
there's there's some I know what I would fix, right,
but it's great here from a home were also you.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Get homeowners that are pairing oftentimes or a model with
new appliances and other things or is that kind of
split fifty to fifty or oftentimes the keeping what they
currently have or out is.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
That yeah, actually, most of the time owners are getting appliances.
You know, they say, like if your appliances are over
eight years old, it's worth it based on cross savings
on energy. So the new appliances are much more efficient,
they're really they're really nice. Like that's a that's a
(15:43):
section a sector of the of the building of the
home building business that I think has improved in the
last maybe five years. Especially the quality of the appliance
has gotten much better and the the the options that
you can get. And so a fair amount of our
kitchener models, maybe twenty percent are because they can't fit
(16:05):
a normal sized fridge, right. So like so if you're
living buy a house maybe downtown, some of these smaller houses,
they originally were built and built for a small fridge,
maybe a thirty inch wide fridge. And when you go
shopping for new appliances, like ninety nine percent of the
choices are in thirty six inch wide fridges. So you
just aren't able to get what you want, and that
(16:26):
usually leads some remodeling or we've seen many times where
we where we coming to do the kitchen and the
maybe the appliances have been replaced already, I want to
use those. Obviously, the new fridges maybe a couple of
inches too tall for the opening, and so they've they've
(16:47):
pulled cabinets off, they've made do. But yeah, appliances in
kitchen definitely.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Go together with that stuff too.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
As we talked morning than Mike two Egg, owner of
Edge Construction, think about about those type of you know,
different different types of applying it's as different options.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
I know.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
The other thing, the other area that's really become very
very cool. Is the specialized areas for different types of cooks,
different types of activities that are going to go, whether
it's adding you know, a standalone double oven or something
like that, or but also I know you guys have
like folks that are like, hey, we you know, we
entertain a lot. Maybe have like a wine cooler that
(17:21):
matches what we have. Those type of things are really
able to be incorporated into and very nicely incorporated into
a new role model, aren't they They are?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And you know, if you start looking at we just
did one recently where built a standalone pantry. It's more
like a mini kitchen almost, and it has a bevridge
in there. And when the horner is looking for bevridges,
I think they were kind of shocked. You can get
(17:51):
us a normal size, twenty four inch wide BEV fridge,
but you know, beer and wine and pop whatever you
want to put in their water fits underneath the countertop
and some of us can hold one hundred and seventy
and up cans of whatever, And so there's really some
cool options for that. And it's sort of plug it
(18:12):
in and forget. It's one of the appliances you just
don't have to do much with I did want to
hit to some of the innovation that's happening in appliances
because it's you know a lot of people thinking, oh,
stove is a stove, of a fridge is a fridge.
Well some of those new We installed the double eleven recently.
That literally that the cook top you can you can
(18:35):
have them. You can communicate through Wi Fi. You can
start your stove warming up through an app on your phone.
You can tell what's going on in there. You can
say you've got a meat thermometer in a roast. You
can be at the office and go, I'm gonna I
better knock this down to one hundred degrees and maintain
temperature or crank it up. It's not gonna be ready.
It's probably been a while since we talked about the stovetops,
(18:59):
like the cook tops. Were you going to ask about induction?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I was exactly what I was going to ask about.
And and this is really revolutionary as far as kind
of the best of all worlds, isn't it It is?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And you know, we we had I don't know when
it was a year or two ago. Some bad press
came out on on gas stoves right, do you guys
have a guess?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
We do?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
We do?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I'm gonna I'm gonna make you nervous.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
So I thought, kind of like everybody else, that this
is just the garment sticking their nose in. But the
truth is, Okay, when I took some classes, got some education,
uh it was really on other things. It was on
indoor air quality and HVAC systems, and but it led
into discussions about about about about gas stoves. And you go, well, okay,
(19:47):
I know for years the gourmet cooks, the really good cooks,
and really just a lot of people really like cooking
on a gas stove. It's sort of instant heat controls
really well. But if you look at how much CO
two that's putting into your house, it's like having up
you know, twenty smokers in there basically, and uh now
(20:08):
you're shopping but or and and think about it as
it's not a very efficient transfer of heat, right because
you got the flame going, you put this the pot
down and you're just watching flames go all around it, right,
and that he is just radiating off that stove, and
so you got to have a really good sized fan,
(20:31):
right pulling air out of your house. Well, if you
do that, you know, you put an eight or ten
inch hole inside your house. You look a big fan
up to it and you just pump air out and
it's a ten bow zero. That means some tembo zero
air is going to come back in. So that is
are some issues when the when the glass cook tops
have been around for a long time. Now we've got induction. Uh,
(20:53):
induction is I'm not even sure how to describe it.
It's it's just the most efficient answer a heat. So
like if you have if you put a pan up there,
it's the pan has to hold a magnet.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
That's part of the deal.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Don't ask me why, I'm not you know, you got
to read the science, I guess. But it will immediately
start heating.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Up that that pan.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
The transfers from the element to the pan through the glass.
If the if you turn it on and put your
hand on it, it will not affect you unless you ever
bring on your finger.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Don't do it with a ring anything.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
But it's very interesting technology and it's super efficient. There's
really no wasted energy getting the heat to the pan,
and it's very controllable. It's very stable.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
When I first and before I understood kind of how
they worked. I thought, people are it's an induction of it,
as I thought, are we talking about Remember like friends
I growing up with, they'd have like the glass top,
but it was still like a heat there was a
heat element in there that heated up the glass.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
And that's not what we're talking about here.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
This is literally like an electronic element under there that
when you put that pan on, the heat is actually
being generated in the pan and not on that surface,
right is that kind of.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, not a surface.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I mean, actually the heat from the pan will heat
up the glass, but it's not the element that's heating
up the glass. And so, like I said, it's just
a super efficient way to do it. One drawback on
the on the old one glass top ones that I
remember was you you'd set it and you'd see the
red it would start to heat up, right, and then
it would get kind of too hot that it would
cool back down, and then it would heat back up.
(22:26):
And so is this constant fluctuation and temperature which you
don't get with the induction. The induction is you said
it it's going to stay where it's at forever. Like
it's just amazing amazing new technology.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Does it require special wiring or it does not know.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
No, it's a I mean it's a it's a two
twenty so, but a lot most stoves are two twenty
so it's a pretty much a just replacement for what
we already have.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Is that something when when folks are I think about
all the things that that we don't know, and I
will definitely lead that crowd of things I don't know?
Is that's something that that comes up during design and
other conversations for kitchener model is like there are other
different options out there, like what are you looking to.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Do in this space?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
And here's what here's some of the options, some of
the things to consider. And you know, I think for
a lot of folks listening this morning not even realizing
that induction was an option, or not even realizing oftentimes
what the great benefits are having that conversation or informing
folks about that.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, I think it's a really good idea from our side.
Is you know, because a lot of people when they
do or model it, they've dreamt of having.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
One or the other.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Generally, Yeah, so if they if they had if they
had electric, now they you know, they want gas or
at least they want to be pipe for gas so
in case they decide to go that route someday, which
is there's nothing wrong with that, but it is on
us to say, hey, you know, have you heard of this?
And this is why it seems like it's here to
(23:50):
stay and there's there's more of this coming. So it's
like said, very interesting tech.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I know you were talking a number of years ago
about some different we talk about different ways to vent
cooking surfaces, and you had mentioned a while ago about
surface level that I was watching a thing on tiny
homes and this It was this guy that just reviews
like Airbnb, tiny holmes, and he was at one that
(24:17):
had one of those systems, and he was and everyone
should be amazed. Was just amazed by how and speaking
of technology that you may not know exists for folks
that may be looking for different options and different ways
to control that that's smoke and steam. There's a lot
of options out there as well in that area, aren't there?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
There are?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
And I guess we can talk, we can kind of
veer the conversation because so, like you've probably heard of
Jena Air Appliances, right, sure, So jen Air was and
it is they kind of pioneered that surface level of ventilation.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
I never liked. I was as a carpenter.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I was like, no, because now we have to figure
out how to get you know, pipe from here and
down and out. Well, we've moved way past that and
now it's just a standard, and I like that that ventilation.
I want to talk a little bit about. Okay, you've
got a for a standard, for a standard inductions cooked top.
(25:15):
We can vent with a six inch pipe, So that's
a six inch hole in your house, someway that you're
pumping that air out. A bat fan is generally four inches,
so that's that's puming out. So when we're when we're
designing heating systems, now we have to take an account
for that. We call it makeup air, which means we've
got to cut another hole in your house and bring
that air in because we don't want to just filtering
(25:38):
through your walls in your house, like creating negative pressure
if you turn on all these fans at once, in
effect to create negative pressure that pulls colder air or
hot air in. I don't know if I'm making sense, Yeah,
but now we can bring in that makeup air and
there's some somewhat new tech out there called er V.
It's an energy ventilation recovery. So what this does is
(26:02):
it brings in let's say in the winter, it's bringing
in cold air. It goes into this unit and it
crosses with exhaust air that's going out, and the exhaust
air heats the cold air coming in. It's about ninety
percent efficient, so you're not bringing in fully colear. And
then the really great benefit of it is we can
put a very a very good filter in that machine,
(26:26):
so filtering out allergens and small particles and dust particles
and things like that. So you bring in really fresh air.
You got all these benefits of fresh air without the
negatives of bringing some of that outside stuff in with it.
And there's research coming out now that shows reduction in
the effects of allergy use and allergens by using the RVs.
(26:48):
These things are, by the way, it's not super expensive unit.
They're about a thousand dollars for the unit. Obviously it's
got to get piped in that adds quite a bit.
But for you know, you start looking into this somewhat
new area of indoor air quality and.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Just the health of all of us.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Uh, you know my kids, Uh you know I would
have benefited from this flash air. You know, it's just
an interesting thing. You look at how much you know,
two even people have produced in the house, so like, well,
we want to take this into consideration when we're when
we're touching these systems. Hey, maybe there's a few I
don't want to say minor upgrades, but not major upgrades
(27:29):
that can really make a house more comfortable.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
That's pretty cool that that's that's out there. That's a
really cool.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
It's also one of those things like why did somebody
else think of earlier? And like why didn't I think
of that?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
We just didn't have time, didn't get there. But I
think you know now, that's why I say it list this,
this appliance conversation is more than just uh well, I
like cookout of this right, cooking on that, because now
we've got to decide how we're gonna uh deal with
the air.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
More than the shiny things you see, take care would
do so much.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yes, it would be.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yes, it would be talking this morning with Mike two Eg,
owner of Edge Construction. The website Edge Construction Company dot com.
It's all one word, Edge Construction Company dot dot com.
Great day to give them a call six O eight
six three six three three four three that number six
three six Edge we continue a conversation on kitchens. We'll
do that next is the Homer Modeling Show with Edge
Construction continues right here thirteen ten WYBI. This is the
(28:22):
Homer Modeling Show brought you by Edge Construction Online, Edge
Construction Company dot com. It's all one word Edge Construction
Company dot com. Dolphin number six O eight six three
six three three four three, then number six three six
EDGE talking kitchens this week. And I just kind of
look at some of the notes and one of them
says a function versus aesthetics, and that kind of ties
in with where we left off in that last segment.
(28:44):
Is there is the beauty, but there's also the function
when it comes to a kitchen.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
And I think of the.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
First thing I'd asked about, and it kind of pops
in my head and we were talking kitchens too. Is
kind of their changing role? Is is the long Obviously
the all min function for a kitchen is to to
prepare food, but the reality is, you know, whether it's
get together's company over family, kids doing the homework in
the kitchen. Kitchens have become a really vital part of
(29:12):
every home and really making sure that you have a
good balance between not only does it look great, but
it actually is workable. That is something that I think
you know, obviously the designers at Edge Construction spent a
lot of time working on isn't it?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
It is?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
And you know that when you're when you're designing, we
talk a lot about we're kind of designing in houses
areas for people to congregate. Now, yeah, you've you've got
to be able to do the stuff that a kitchen
isn't meant to do. That that's kind of a given.
But okay, how do we now tweak those designs so
that it works better but also is attractive and serves
(29:50):
more people and and does this job of of the
as a social space also? And uh where maybe kids
doing homework or I don't know, matt'son never do homework
at the kitchen island?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Oh yeah, somewhat common.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Right, It's the only place we can keep an eye
on him because if he goes back to his desk
in his in his bedroom, you'll go back there, off, Yeah,
he'll have his phone in his hand.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
It's like, dude, you got to get yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
So yeah, yeah, So it's all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
And I think like, uh, this has been a great
bunch of years for our designers because when when I'm
thinking back to the eighties and the even nineties when
we were when we were doing these jobs, the idea
then was to get as much storage as you could.
I mean you you kind of pack cabinets in everywhere
(30:38):
you you you just got more, more and more cabinets.
And now we routinely have customers that are willing to
give up some upper cabinet space to put in a
bigger window or or take out a wall to have
the kitchen join another room a little more. And knowing
that they're going to give up some storage, there a
(30:59):
possibility for some us on that side or count top.
You look at how many of our kitchens have open
shelves in them. Well, those are less functional, right than
a cabinet you can just pack full of stuff. Yeah,
you know, but it looks nicer, it makes people feel better.
So and you know, you're also hitting things with lighting,
and we don't have to take any back seats on that.
(31:21):
We can really light stuff now and change how that
space feels.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
One of the things that and it's been probably ten
years now, but I remember the first time I started
seeing kitchens where like they wouldn't have covered space above
the counter, and it was such like a mind shift
to me.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
It's like you should have cabinets.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And like I've loved you were mentioning earlier about you know,
maybe adding a bigger window in that stuff. And I see,
you know a lot of the kitchener models you guys
are doing at edge where there's space is like that,
and just how much bigger and how much nicer that
space suddenly becomes because you've put a bigger window in,
because you've maybe removed some of the cabinets and found
more efficient, better ways to kind of manage that the
(32:03):
you know that that storage and the outcome that aesthetic
is is obviously the aesthetic is great, but you're still
managing to retain function as well.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Oh yeah, and and you know, people figure it out.
I'm thinking of one of the my favorite kitchens that
we did. It's a kind of a near West side
and we actually worked on that house I think three times.
Actually bathrooms and we did some outside stuff and then
we did the kitchen and it's a very small kitchen.
(32:32):
I was probably half the size of rumors it No,
it's very small. And in my mind when I walked
in there, I thought, Okay, we're gonna have to get
cabinets up, and the owners like, nope, I don't want
any upper cabinets.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I'm like, you already have a tiny kitchen.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
And we did open shelves, did and and you know,
when I've talked to them after that time, they're.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Like, they love it. They wouldn't change a thing.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Now they are paired down to just the things they
need to get the job done in that kitchen, you know.
They and they have some a few extra store in
other areas of the house. Was just they were limited
in size. We couldn't really make it bigger. But the
esthetic part of it, they really wanted it pleasing. They
entertain a lot and it's a real statement piece and
it's it's pretty cool and I'm really happy it worked
(33:16):
out for him.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Have we seen a shift like that where folks are
I just just by nature kind of pairing things down.
I remember it feels like in the eighties and nineties
and even the early two thousands, like kitchen gadgets like
you had like a million of them and you needed
a place for it seems like I don't see that
as often anymore. If I do, like folks have maybe
one like an air fryer, or we've got maybe some
(33:37):
type of you know, if we're a baker or something,
maybe they've got a mixer.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
But I don't.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
See like it used to be just a billion different
little game.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I've I'm a poke of my wife here. Yeah, I remember,
like I'd be in the kitchen and I'd see some
new gadget.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I'm like, which one of your friends started selling paper chef?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
But because it was really common, right like, like you said,
the gags were really popular. And now I think right
the the I don't know, the the little bit younger generations,
let's call them, uh, they they're less into that. I
think it's uh, I see a move towards quality stuff,
(34:15):
like they might they might spend more money on less things,
but have them, you know, be really good quality. Do
dads to help you cook in the kitchen, and so
that that's a healthy thing. I think we all, you know,
we all have too much of the sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
And you think about yes, because I also think some
of it's lesson learned. How many different gizmos and gadgets
have purchased over the years.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
That end up like are you using one time or
something you have.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Only end up on a shelf.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
So yeah, that's that's really really good to see. One
quick thing too, as we talking about kitchens, you were
talking about induction ovens. I know on a previous show
you had mentioned with countertops, not the same technology but
kind of the same. Is like with your phones. If
you've got like a phone that can do wireless charging
you were talking about phones. If you've got that, you've
got countertop options where folks can just kind of set
(35:02):
them down and they charge just by sitting there.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Well, we actually now are offering it. We have the
sample of it in our showroom. So I mean, it's
awesome until you know it's pricey, but it's cool.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
There are people that want it, and the more power
to them. I don't know how to describe this. So
we saw it first at the International Builder Show maybe
two years ago. It just took this long for it
to get to the retail stage. And actually the countertop
manufacturers are our countertop people have to offer it and
they've got to install it because what they do on
(35:38):
a stone countertop is they router out maybe a ten
inch by twelve inch location on any counter top, They
thin down that countertop and the unit sort of sits
up in there, and then basically if you run your
phone over the top of this over the top of
this rectangle, a little led light will show up around
(36:02):
the edges, so you know where to put it, and
then it'll start charging right through the countertop and it'll
charge anything that's charge. You can put your laptop, you
can put your your your earbuds or or phones obviously,
and things that no chords. So I want it, but
I don't know if I want it bad.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Have you know you've got the Have you had, folks,
have you had you had a chance for somebody to inst.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Just starting right now, like we just got the got
the where we can show it. We got some kind
of a display and so you can see the workings
of it. And then we've got it hooked up on
our showroom. So it's a very cool thing. And like anything,
probably a year or two down the road, maybe it'll,
uh it'll get more price to that, I guess, but uh,
(36:44):
it's pretty cool tech, and I think it. One of
the reasons is that it is a little more expensive.
Is that this can't be a cheap product because you're
going through all this effort. It fits in a specific
space that they wrote a underneath countertop. So if this
thing fails out for a couple of years, they're going
to be in big trouble. So it's a very well
made product, very very high end charger.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
One of the things that do I and along those
lines is we're talking about kitchens and and well made stuff.
Real real important to mention is we kind of touched
on it with Flores is when it comes to kitchen especially,
you don't want to really be cutting course with quality.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
You know, by the way the the I have seen
it in at the shows also where they've taken the
induction units and done the same thing underneath stone countertops
and and people actually cooking right on the car tops.
Really yeah, because it's basically is heating up the the
pan through the cortop doesn't heat the countertop, I mean,
(37:43):
you know, other than in reverse. And it was really cool.
I don't know if it's kind of gimmicky. I want
to see where it goes, if it's actually going to
be a thing, But I thought it looked really neat.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
We're going to reach a day where your kitchen is
literally just going to be one countertop and jets'.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Well on our way.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
It's great day to have that conversation, but thinking about
doing some upgrading and doing a remodel of your kitchen
or any space around your home. Mike's team at Edge
Construction love to talk with you. You can learn more online
the website Edge Construction Company dot com. That's all one word,
Edge Construction Company dot com. Even better, pick a phone,
give a call six so eight six three six three
three four to three that number six three six Edge.
Hope you had on over Edge Construction Company dot com
(38:20):
because we're talking about a recent edition that they've that
they've completed at Edge and they've posted up at Edge
Construction Company dot com. Or get the details from Mike.
We'll do that next as the Home Modeling Show continues
right here on thirteen ten do w UIV eight. This
is the Hovermodeling Show brought you by Edge Construction Online.
Edge Construction Company dot com. It's all one word Edge
Construction Company dot com. Great website, as a matter of fact,
(38:41):
head on over there now go to their project, their portfolio,
check out this edition, because we're going to talk about
it's titled edition.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
That's that Edge Construction Company dot.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Com telp number six so eight six three six three
three four to three that number six three six Edge
and Mike. Before we get into this specific project, as
we do talk about bigger stuff on the show from
time to time, edition and other other things in whole home,
you know, building new homes as well with Edge construction.
As we're talking today and I'm looking outside, it's a
beautiful day. Now is the time to be thinking about
(39:09):
if you're going to be doing a project like that
like this, starting the plan, starting the conversation now for
a project next year, right.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
That bigger stuff. I don't really like doing additions in
the in the winter winter because it generally means we're
open up the house to the elements, you know, and
so uh and and plus like you know, we're paring concrete,
we're taking holes, we're making messes. It's less efficient and uh.
(39:38):
But the biggest thing is like, do we really want
to cut a big hole in this house when it's
temblow zero?
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Not really?
Speaker 4 (39:44):
So now is the time.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Now's the time.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
And it takes a while to plan these things. I mean,
you know these these will you know, it doesn't seem
like it should.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
But it's it's we.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Don't rush that upfront process and design so that the
homer sets that pace and it generally takes at least
a few months to get to contract on these. So
it's a good time to talk about it now.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
So as we look at that, as I look at
this one and the space there, the thing that is
it's for folks that haven't had a chance head on
over to the website. This space is it's it's a
nice size, but it really feels much more spacious because
of the ceiling. Let's talk about I think it's hard
to ignore that ceiling like it is it is.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
It is gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, so we did a did an open ceiling in there,
and so uh fireplace goes all the way up into
the peak. I was telling Sean during the break. We
so it's got a fireplace and the uh and a
mantle and a and a TV on that. And you know,
I'll looking at the end of that job and that
that mantle is actually made out of concrete.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
I didn't really and we stained it to kind of
match the beams in there. So oh by the way. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
So I don't think I've talked about you before, but
those beams are actually foam really, so yeah, one person
with one hand can pick up a twenty foot long
beam and it's it's stained. I mean, you really can't tell.
If you do a great job of installing, which our
guys did. They look like wood beams, but you don't
have all that weight up there. Plus wood, you know,
(41:17):
expands and contracts more and you can get cracks and
things like that, and so that's been a revolutionary for
us to get what we need and get the look
that we're after. And so yeah, it's some interesting products
in there.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Well, we talk about those those different types of projects
and different things where I know we were talking kitchens
earlier and one of the things that came up was
you don't know until you don't know, and we talk
about some of these you know, some of these different
materials and some of the advances.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
You look at this beautiful space.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
And you know, you think everything is you know, those
are real wood up there, and that's that's a real
wood mantle, and you realize you're getting the benefit of
they look great, but you're also getting all the other
things which is durability you mentioned.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Of course the weight.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Of an actual would beam would would probably require quite
a bit more, a bit more up there and being
able to do that stuff with this what kind of
drove this this project?
Speaker 4 (42:07):
What was could you remember what the what the bugs
were looking.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
At this home?
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Just was they needed you know, houses get designed and
built and this is really not that old house, maybe
seven or eight years old, and uh, it's got a
beautiful big kitchen, and the great room is a little
bit like if you top down looking at you like,
the great room is just a little bit undersized, like
it's just not enough space there. And so they were
looking for another area that for people to go and congregate.
(42:34):
And then it, uh, you know, it's a very nice house.
And so they can tell by the addition that we
did some cool things in there. So we had match
kind of match the finishes on the house. They had
beautiful big backyards up in the forest and like the
vaulted ceiling. This this probably came out of you know,
we found some pictures on house or we were on Pinterest,
(42:57):
or we saw with had friends that had this look.
They liked the look, and okay, just getting all these
elements in there. Yeah, anybody can do that, but get
having everything in in perspective and in the right ratio.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
I think. I think it's what makes it come together.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Make your great room the greatest room.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
And that's they were looking to do. You check that
out online Edgeconstruction Company dot com. That's Edgeconstruction Company dot
com looking to do an edition. Maybe you're looking to
do a kitchen remodel, bathroom model, or any type of project.
And Mike the team at Edge Construction love to talk
with you. I gotta do this morning. Pick up a phone,
give a call six so eight six three six three
three four three that number sixty three six edge.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Of course, Edge
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Construction brings you the Homer Modeling Show right here on
thirteen ten WIB eight
Popular Podcasts
New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce
Football’s funniest family duo — Jason Kelce of the Philadelphia Eagles and Travis Kelce of the Kansas City Chiefs — team up to provide next-level access to life in the league as it unfolds. The two brothers and Super Bowl champions drop weekly insights about the weekly slate of games and share their INSIDE perspectives on trending NFL news and sports headlines. They also endlessly rag on each other as brothers do, chat the latest in pop culture and welcome some very popular and well-known friends to chat with them. Check out new episodes every Wednesday. Follow New Heights on the Wondery App, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free, and get exclusive content on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And join our new membership for a unique fan experience by going to the New Heights YouTube channel now!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!