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mister Mike two egg of Edge Construction Mike, how you
been great, Joan, good to see you. Spring is empty
(00:42):
us here? Yeah, I think wait a little pump fake, Yeah,
I think it's I think as far as the calendar, meteorological,
the vernal equinox, I do believe we had and so
we're there in any day now, it's going to be there.
Which is I think for a lot of and I'll
ask you because you would know this answer. This is
the time where people really start to get active and
start thinking about Homer modeling, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I think it's just like you've been trapped in your
house for four months, and maybe it's like you get
a little more optimistic about doing things when the sun
comes out and it warms up a little bit and
then it gets called the end.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
But then it's going to get warm, and your guys
are going year round too, by the way, for folks
that don't know you guys, as we're kind of exiting
winter right now, your guys have been going all winter long.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Oh yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
There are projects that I don't love to do or
especially start in the winter. So I think we're gonna
get into a little bit of that today. But yeah,
our food has to grow on the table at edge
for our people year round for sure. And construction now
we've figured out ways to keep things going and we
just power through when the weather gets bad and we
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live in Wisconsin, it's not great for at least part
of the year.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, we know that, we accept that, and so looking
forward then to spring. In this week's topic that Tye
in is, we're talk about a whole home remodel and
this stuff can include the entire inside outside additions, those
type of things. So we're really in prime season to
be thinking about that, aren't we.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
We are because.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And on our schedule we do three to four of
those year. If if two of those are whole hoss
remodels where we're not adding on, where we're not pouring concrete,
then we then we can do four pretty pretty comfortably.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Almost said easily. I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I don't think there's an easy It's not an easy
part of that. But in case the point, we had
a one that is nearing the finish line right now.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
It's downtown Madison.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
There's a big old house down there that was a
rental and was divided into two and and now two
people bought the house together and are they're actually they're
actually sisters and they're they're combining it and turning it
back into what it was originally, which is a one
you know, a single house, one kitchen, two stairways.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
But yeah, that that kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
We're not pouring concrete there, and so that's something we
were able to work on through the rough weather.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
You know, it wasn't wasn't too intense that way.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
We talk about by the way, going duplex to single.
Do you do vice versa ever? Do folks ever call
you and say, we're looking to convert this into or
is that a different type of maybe a different different
company to be working with. Have you guys ever done
anything like that the opposite.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I'm sure we have.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
It's it's we're not generally called in for that stuff
because when when when somebody that's in that business and
they want to it's obviously they want to rent this out.
They're not generally trying to do a model like our
kind of remodel. It's more of a okay, how how
what's the least I can put into this place to
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get it turned into a rental? And even even working
on a on a house that was a rental and
turning it into a house for for somebody's family, it
seems like nothing ever good happens in the rental sense,
Like things don't get fixed like they would get fixed
for somebody that lives there and loves that house. So
it tends to be like like this one, we had
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really tear down a lot of stuff and and update
a lot of mechanicals, and the electrical was a mess,
and we knew that going in. I mean, we did
our due diligence, so we know what we're getting into.
But yeah, it's a much different deal.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Is that really rewarding getting a chance to kind of
restore You talk about big old homes, especially in the city,
I've got to guess.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
There's when that thing was built.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
There's probably a substantial amount of craftsmanship and uniqueness that
has been over the years being used to the rental
completely eliminated. Being able to revive then bring that back
has got to be a really rewarding and a lot
of fun for you guys.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
It is.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
It is gonna be really fun. Now we're to the
we're putting back together stage. We're at drywall, so all
the fixing structurally has been done, all the all the
mechanicals are now up to date except for the very
very finishes.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
And it's really gonna be fun to see the choices
go back in there, the cabinet choices, flaring chos is
just the the the we really feel like you're doing
right by a house like that when you're when you're
when you're investing this amount of time in it.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, I got to be hopeful too as I see it,
you know, I think the old joke is the official
bird of Madison is the crane, and it's not.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It's the actual cranes, cranes.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
As I see more high rises and other things going
up downtown, you've got to guess some of those old
multi unit homes, I'm hoping and and you know, maybe
this is just one example of hopefully many of those
owners saying, you know what, maybe we'd like to keep
this or restore it to its old glory and you know,
kind of keep a piece of that that beautiful Madison history.
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I know there's obviously some blocks, you know, if you're
right down campus, probably not that's which they're thinking. But
there's some areas where I bet that that's a real, real, great,
uh maybe thing to aspire to.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I think what you're saying is everything can't be concrete
and stuck off right and first stories high and some
version of a square or rectangle. And okay, well, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Love the old buildings. I love the old I love
the old houses, and uh.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I I don't know how long is what what else
has to be given up down there before you lose
too much of your character down town. So I don't
know some of these some of these old buildings are
seemed to be getting lost in their neighbors. They're just
these big, tall structures and the residential neighborhoods largely haven't
been hit quite so bad. But I don't know the
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future hopefully, Isn't that right?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, exactly talking this morning with Mike two eg, owner
of EDGE Construction. The website Edge Construction Company dot com.
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Speaker 2 (06:46):
So going from the city, let's head out towards the country.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I know one of the projects that you guys often
are doing our farmhouse restorations and whole Homer models on
those and same kind of approaches really oftentimes trying to
restore those those homes to to their glory days. And
you know, we talk about the website some beautiful results
on that. That's another area I've got to guess. You
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get a get a fair amount of folks wanting to
work with you guys on those projects you.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Do, and those are those are great projects too. It's
a you got you go from working downtown.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Where uh you know, you got no place to park.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
You got all these trades you got just getting the
trash out of there as a challenge, uh to getting
out of the country and working on some of those
old country houses generally went by the way. When somebody's
set to do a whole Homer model. A lot of
those houses that that kind of end up doing that
haven't had much updating over the years. And uh we
had one uh this last year, I believe we finished
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up a country house farmhouse I was built in the sixties,
no updating since, and it's amazing how kind of out
of date and how much work needed to be done
to bring it up to code and just get it
act to zero.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
But we probably go much.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Farther than that because when when houses generally get built,
and I would pick on the builders a little bit,
those words builder grade sneak in there, and uh, you
know that was around in the sixties and the fifties
and probably the seventies quite a bit. And that initial
group of choices that got put in there, the flooring,
the cabinets, the plumbing, fixtures, all all that stuff, uplighting, upgrading,
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lighting and mechanicals. Sometimes those things get done to a
minimum a little bit on the new construction side. So
when you bring it up to date with really good product,
really good, really good, you have an opportunity to use
all this great choice, you know, a lot more choices
now to design those houses.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
And so that's.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Really fun because you're making this house into something that's
never been are you?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Are you still seeing shake carpetever? You guys having to
any of that stuff these days?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yes, we do, And I believe we have one coming
up where the shag goes into the bathroom again.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Oh no, no, what were you mentioning a project like
that a few years ago?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Just the worst idea?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
And I get why shake carpeting might have been popular
at one time, But shake carpeting in a bathroom.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Maybe the inside of a van or something.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Why not? Why?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
But yeah, I always joke that I don't tell our
people when it's demo.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Just cound be like, you know, just try to try
to block this day from me.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Remember that carp could talk. I don't know if you'd
want to hear what it was saying talking.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
We uh.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I always think when I walk into that that house
that has not been up or maybe maybe that master
bath is from the sixties and it's like the last
thing to get done in this house. And I always
think Austin Powers lives here like this is this is
Uh yeah, did you.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Ever come across some of that old wallpaper as well,
with like the the coffee pots.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I don't know if you ever, like I remember, like.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
In the seventies and eighties, I've ever seeing a lot
of houses with that, like they have like tea.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yes, the borders. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
We we tear out a fair amount of wallpaper in
our business. We're actually, I can't believe I'm saying this,
starting to put some back in. There's wallpaper is coming around.
I hear from my designers and uh, some people in
my family, and I'm going, no, no.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
No, we we tear it out, but we just installed one.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Actually I did like it's kind of I don't know
what style you art deco. I guess that's a that's
the thing, and that's that's a modern twist on our deco.
There's the wallpaper world, like everything has grown in choices
and there's some cool stuff. I have a little PTSD
from tearing it out, so maybe that's just my own
(10:47):
personal thing. I'm I'm not super excited about it, but
we do what our designers tell us to do. We're
gonna have allies at a construction.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
It's there.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Wallpaper is a funny thing too, because it seems you
mentioned that we'd builder grade and and it's not necessarily
a new term. I think some of those older wallpapers
that kind of give us the shivers are some of those,
you know, the very inexpensive, very simple print you know
on them or design on them. They and they just
don't farewell. I do think of and when you were
talking about some of the newer wallpapers, I've seen even
(11:23):
even older stuff with really nice texture, really nice I'm
gonna guess that these were these were things that back
in the day there was some good investment, which is clearly.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Why they've held up so well.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
And I've got to assume that some of this new
stuff is is very much like that, where it's a
really good product that's got it's not just a cheap
little sticker that you put on.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Uh the one I'm gonna I'll educate you a little bit, Okay,
it's it's it's uh, the world is always buyer b are.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
A lot of the product that's out there is stuff
that we probably went and saw it's it's there's there's
a lot of about half the market for wallpaper right
now is peeling sticks, and I think they're meaning it's
it's almost like tape. You you you peel a back off,
and you're in business if you get it stuck up
there a little bit crooked. Oops, it's probably gonna it's
probably wrecked. It's got to come back off. And so
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we like product that either that where we apply the
glue so we can we can roll on the glue,
get the glue on the wall. It gives us a
little bit of wiggle room to get that thing straight.
Patterns are still somewhat complicated, and you don't have to
be a carpenter to notice when something's off a little bit.
You know, if they're not quite matching up. So do
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a really good job about this. You need the right product,
just like anything else. We have not installed the peeling sticks.
I'm very resistive to the piling sticks, even though they've
sort of taken over the market. I think they're just
like I said, trying to peel the homeowners and going, well, okay,
you just peel the back off, put it up on
the wall. But in my mind, I'm going, Okay, I
needed this has to be straight, and it's got to
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the patterns have to match up up, and that's a
lot tougher to do with when you're when you have
no wiggle room. And so yeah, I'm not sure what's cheaper.
It appears to me like none of this stuff is cheap,
by the way. You can spend quite a bit of
money even doing a small room with wallpaper, and so uh,
less is more in my world, you know, like we
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we have, by the way taken, we've model houses that
people really loved wallpaper at some point in that house
where we're like almost every available space is wallpaper and
it's not fun to take it out of there, and
I don't think it's really appealing.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Have you found an art to removing old wallpaper?
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Because yeah, no, we have, I mean we elbow well
in the end.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yes, you know, we've we've had on one end of
the scale most of the time it's not too bad
to take up. We use steamers, we do, you know,
those prickly rollers and get water through there and and
we'll get it.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Off fairly easily and wash off the wall depending on
the globe.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
We've had other times where there's two or three layers
of wallpaper, and sometimes that gets really tough. It just
doesn't want to give up the ghost. And I'll have
Gary over there working on it. I'm thinking it's we've
done in a few hours, which is probably true optimistic anyways,
and Gary's like two days later, I'm still taking off
wall paper. Just so you know this one, it's a
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little unpredictable.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Yeah, it could be done.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
You mentioned peel and stick by the way, I was
at the big box store the other day and I
saw peel and stick tiles and I thought, yeah, a
playhouse maybe.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I don't know that. It didn't a couple of things
to me. I look at it.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I said, that doesn't look like a real like real
tile work, and I thought.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
There's no way that that can hold off. Are you obvious?
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I'm holds up, okay.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
And plus if it, if it does fall off, you
can just you know, throw a little pl back, a
little construction adhesive maybe back there and hold that tile.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
And I think it's serve a stop gap, or it's.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Marketed to the flippers went real big with the peel
and stick backsplashes, Because if you have a super inexperienced
homeowner and they come in and they go, oh, it's
got a backsplash, Well great, look a little closer like
a lot of those aren't, you know, don't get grouted.
It's sort of just I'm gonna get it up there.
And if a homeowner does it most of the time,
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I think, I know, I'm not assuming they're thinking it's
gonna last twenty years. You know, it's more of a
it's something where it's a it's a money saver and
it takes care of the problem for now. Like anything,
you can really mess up the install like you know,
cutting them can be a trick and get them straight
lines and not having it look goofy you're on outlets
and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
But uh, yeah, that's out there. My advice is, uh,
if you're going to do it, Sean yeah on the upside,
can come over and watch.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah gets you it gets you a comfortable chair and
yeah laughing. Yeah, I guess it sounds to me like
something that because I saw that, I love else said
interesting concept and sounds like this might be something much
like painting cabinets.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
People are just kind of bring that up.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I was gonna ring that because that got real big
with the flippers right. Painting the cabinets usually buys you
a few years and then you're going, okay, this.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
My cabins are still falling apart. Not much I can do.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
But again, if you're if you're, you do that. You
put up a few new light flixtures. You you you
paint the walls, you put up a peel and stick
backsplash to uh. Somebody coming in that's really inexperienced, doesn't
doesn't know what to look for in a house and
might think, wow, oh, kitchen's done. I don't have to
do anything here for a long time, you know, until
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you get in there and spend some time and really
figure out what it looks like.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Really interesting stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
As they talk this morning with Mike Twig, we are
actually talking about whole homer modeling. But I get and
I apologize, I get very sidetracked sometimes some of these
some of these new uh products and concepts and and
what folks are doing, and we'll get back to whole
homer modeling. And I think it's we were thinking about
some folks maybe buying a little bit extra time when
they decide to do it right. I think a whole
homer modeling is a is an amazing option for folks.
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We'll talk about additions and some other things with Mike.
Will do that in just a moment to meantime, been
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Speaker 2 (17:37):
Great website, great resource.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Your telephon number six oh eight six three six three
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can see I got my coffee during the break because
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Speaker 4 (17:48):
Mike.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I have no idea why.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
We try to make it as easy for you as possible.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yes, color coded. Everything is is very very simply laid out.
And I, of course I ever saw still over the
we were talking started our conversation talking about a whole
home remodeling and a little bit of sidetrack, but important
conversation that first segment, And and Mike, as we do
talk about whole home remodeling, additions are.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
If you've got the if you've got the space.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
In the on the lot, it's really a you know,
if you've got the house you love, you got the
neighborhood you love, you got all of that stuff. If
there's a butt an addition, maybe maybe the perfect thing.
And I know you guys do a few additions on
homes each year as well, don't you.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
We do.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
And for us that I kind of group those additions
in with whole home models because it's it's it's a
bigger job, needs more horsepower, a lot more planning. We've
got architectural things to worry about. Concrete is the trick
right now, by the way, Concrete, especially a wall. Concrete
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walls are kind of the wild card and construction. The
last couple of years, there just aren't enough of those
companies left a lot of the smaller and mid size
wall companies as we just call them all companies they
pour the poor foundation walls.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Either disappeared or retired.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
In eight the smaller and mid sized guys, there's a
few real big ones. There's a lot of flatwork though,
that's the stuff you walk on. Obviously, there's plenty of
those type of crews, but we need some of those
people to get into the wall business like that. I
think they would do really well. And and for additions,
so it takes a lot of planning for us because
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we have a great company that does it for us.
I call them mid sized, but uh, you know, we've
got to plan several months in advance to fit into
their schedule.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
And so so that's what throws. That's why I group.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
The additions in with the with the with the whole
Homer models. I mean, maybe just call it a little
kind of bigger jobs, like comparable.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Do they pair together then?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Like for folks that I mean, I think of if
I'm going to do an addition, it's probably a good
time to be really working on kind of touching most
rooms in the house.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
The last let's see, we had one. It seems like
we get a job a year where we have to
tear the roof off and go up right. We had
one of those recently where we did that. We paired
that with a small addition and we were there doing it.
We we got the roof off. We a little addition.
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They had a kind of a i'll just say a
crappy one car garage where the concrete is all broken
up and a mess and couldn't even fit one car
his older house. And so we got him a legit
two car garage that involved an addition that's that's also
an edition concrete We tore off what was there rebuilt
back on.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
So yes, for sure with those.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
You mentioned the one car garage that you can't really
fit a car, and I think of old time cars
and I'm like, how did what was the planet? Because
they think about size, they were nice big yeah, but it.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Was like, I don't know if it was you know,
you know, we're talking houses that were probably from the
fifties ish uh in that in that case anyways, and
it just was okay, maybe you could fit it in there,
but have been super tight and you couldn't have room
for anything else in there. That's not how people live, right,
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We need a place to put things. And I think
that one Cai garage was did not have a vehicle.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
People were skinnier then too, right, That's what out odd
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Speaker 2 (21:39):
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Speaker 1 (21:40):
There's obviously a whole whole Homer model, so you need
some unique aspects of it. Some things are are easier,
some things are much more complicated with with the design.
For example, you know, trying to tie things in is one.
You know, if you're if you're going to be touching
all the different spaces, I've got to guess the design.
I wouldn't say it's easier, but it's probably something that
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that you can get a little There's probably a little
bit more flexibility because you don't have to worry about
tying in with what's existing, because you're going to be
updating everything correct.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Right if you're if you're just doing a kitchen or kitchen,
great roomor model, you can pick your style and a
lot of times it's not what the house was built
with originally. I mean, if if people had a choice,
they're going to go a different direction generally. But if
you're if you're keeping the rest of that, you know,
the rest of that downstairs or first floor or whatever
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it is, you at least have to compliment that. And
so if you're if you're starting from a scratch, you're
peeling out what was there. You do get to pick
your you do get to make your choices. And I
always think like, okay, versus how how much of the
plan can we can we get done? Versus just building
a new house? Right, if you're going to do a
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whole Homer model, I think you have to you have
to consider that. Okay, if you can work with the
existing footprint and get maybe ninety percent of the where
you want to get to, you know, you're updating, you're reconfiguring,
possibly some rooms so they make more sense. Yeah, you
might not maybe do if you built brand new, maybe
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get one more bedroom in another bath or something. But
if you get ninety percent of the way there, it
probably makes sense. If you can only get seventy percent
of the way there, well that's a lot tougher decision
because it is expensive to do. Turned down a perfectly
good house, in my mind, is wasteful. So I'm I
think we spend a lot of time on design in
these projects because we really want to do what's right
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and get there ideally with the footprint that we have,
but sometimes it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Do we see, folks, open concepts still a big thing,
still removing walls and I know there was not a
complete reversal, but I know maybe a little bit of
a pullback of maybe a little bit more strategic with
the placement of walls and things, or where do we
kind of stand with with that part of the project.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Man, I it seems like more experienced home owners maybe've
owned a few homes, Uh, they don't mind a little
bit of separation here and there. The younger crowd, the
first time home by crowd, you can see what's getting built.
We we work a lot for builders on the on
the new construction side in nine County, and literally some
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houses have so few walls on the main floor that
we have no place around mechanical. So it's like, well,
you know, this completely open concept. I'm I'm built a
little more like I'm okay with having a little bit
of separation here and there. But I would say the
trend definitely isn't there yet.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Okay, Yeah, I was I was curious.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I'm like, oh, okay, it's a long way to get there,
but yeah, no, it's it's and it's it's. It's great
perspective too as we as we talk about some of
the projects. And I know one of the great things
is folks looking for ideas and looking for inspiration or
just looking to have some fun. If you head on
over to edge Construction Company dot com, you can see
some of their some of their projects on the website.
Best thing to do is head on over to Edgeconstruction
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You'll see a little h it's shaped kind of like
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take you their full portfolio at edge Construction and you'll
see some really really cool projects and getting some great
ideas thinking about doing remodel.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
They'd love to talk with you.
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Edge talking this week about whole home remodeling some of
the projects that that they can do at Edge Construction,
and I know, obviously a very a popular one for folks,
especially uh if you know you love the house, but
you just want to get a good updating for the
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whole home. We talked about kind of the open concept
and I don't think the word is closed concept.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
But what about like some of those.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Old Victorians where they do have a number of rooms
and a lot of beautiful character and a lot of
a lot of woodwork. I know that that restoration, Uh,
the type of work that you guys do at Edge
Construction works very well for those type of types of projects.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah, does your house have a parlor? I wish what
would you put in the parlor?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
A sitting chair or too?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yeah, like you gotta you you have to make your
way when you're a visitor, you like either your you
might stop at the parlor if you're not important enough,
and then if you if you make it to another layer,
you're you're past the parlor.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I visited one of our one of the one of
our neighbors, and they in a very old I think
it was the old Catholic church, the rectory, and like
you come in and there's like a nice little entry
for youer there, and then there's a sliding door and
there's a nice bariller where you sit down with a
beautiful bar and stuff like that. That type of work, though,
you think about some of those beautiful old homes and
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doing right by them and really putting that work in.
I know when talking with you, I think we probably
talked about it on there, but even off air, you
really love doing that kind of work, don't you.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
We do.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
And the real trick if you're going to start making modification,
because those old houses did have some fatal flaws by
today's standards. The kitchen is probably in a back corner
and it's an eight by nine room that nobody ever saw.
It wasn't like that was the center of the house.
So generally we're trying to make at least make it
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bigger and hopefully get it more centralized, because that's just
how we live now. So we've done that remodel several times.
Where there's a nice size room in the middle of
the house. Maybe we get in that old kitchen becomes
an office, this one becomes maybe.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Take over the parlor. I'm not sure what.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
But you can also make some big mistakes by opening
that up too much. You still want the feel of
the you know, want to lose the feel of that old,
beautiful house in that construction. We're very careful when we
take apart trimwork in that house, all the woodwork in
that house, because we want to preserve as much of
that as possible. You can reproduce it, but it doesn't
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have the same feel for some reason as twenty five
coats of paint or it just the old stuff does
feel different. And trying to try if it's stained would work.
That's really a trick because you know, we've got some
tricks to kind of add age to it. Trying to
add age to it. But they had different trees back then.
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You know, they had six foot wide dug fur pine
trees up north that they would cut down and that
eight would looked a lot different. Performed a lot different
than the new kind of quick girl stuff that we
generally build with.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Now let's ask you.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Too about the trim work.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
And I know you work with and especially on some
of those older homes that have very I mean that
stuff was oftentimes one off that was trim that was
maybe used just for that whatever that to die or
what would you describe it as, To cut that and
create that that was the project and they were done with.
You do work with people that are able to recreate
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that stuff, don't you.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
We do you recreate it, And generally it wasn't just one.
It would at least be sort of regionally Oka like
around in the same stay like in Madison. There's a
few kind of in our world sort of famous styles
of trim and when we were model and take that
stuff out, even if we're not reusing that on that project,
we will keep that and store that because sometimes we
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need one piece of casing from nineteen twenty and it's like, okay,
we've got one in the shop.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
We can we can fix up and make work. And
even if.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
It's reproducible, Like I said, I think we're better off
with the old stuff about.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Like those seventies and eighties kind of homes where you know,
I think of especially like the staircase area, and you know,
there was oftentimes I think a lot of us have
either maybe lived in that, maybe you live in this
house now, or at least no folks at the house
were like you come in the front door and right
away there's like this this enclosed staircase that goes straight
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up to the second floor. I know, part of bigger
projects and whole Homer models. A lot of times folks
are saying, let's find ways to open that or make
that a little bit more part of the house and
a little bit more decorative. And I know you guys
at Edge Construction have done a number of those over
the years.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yeah, we like opening that up and giving this some personality.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Design.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Just moved through all these phases from you you talked
about Victorians, where they were fancy and everything stood out
and really custom, and then progress through the up to
the nineteen fifties, and I'd kind of group a lot
of the fifties houses to the seventies houses is they're
kind of homogenized, right, They're utilitarian, they got the job done.
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You know, a three bedroom seventies ranch there it seems
like there's a million of them out there. They work great,
are they flashy? Nope, There's not much personality there. And
so when we can open things up. The stairways are
a great example, because nobody really wants to go on
a tunnel to a different floor in the house. So
if we can open up that a little bit and
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maybe do a short rail or give it some kind
of personality, a little bit of a different look, I
think it can really changed how a house feels.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And speaking of ranches and significant whole home remodels, I
know at Edge Construction Company dot com featured right now
is a significant remodel you guys did on a ranch
home in the area. Let's talk a little bit about
what goes into those type of projects.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, this one was the height of design in nineteen
sixty or fifty eight or something like that. And if
you look at the before pictures, especially the kitchen I
we got to kick out of that one. The whole
ceiling was a sea of fluorescent lights. They're kind of
like a drop ceiling, but where all the panels were
actually a plastic diffuser, so they had flash of lights
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above them. And Sean's laughing, right now looking at it.
I'm not making fun.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Of anybody with this style house, but by the way, but.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Looking at going from that to what it looks like now,
which is completely updated, all new style. The lighting has
changed significantly, the sofits are gone, the.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
House is brightened up like crazy.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I mean there were all the cabins in that house,
by the way, were custom built by a carpenter back
in the sixties.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
I see this face.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
You mentioned the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I just I'm looking that was literally as I scrolled
through the kitchen.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
And so like, oh goodness, a little bit Austin powers
and so. But it's fun to see what's potential is.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
And I.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Know we were I was updating kitchens before we had
use of CAD, of computer aided design. It's certainly before
renderings where you could get a good idea of what
that kitchen was going to look like in the future.
But uh, you know, this Homewner had the benefit of
those things where okay, sometimes it's so bad and so
outdated that you just can't picture what it's You know,
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you need to build that picture in your head of
what's going to look like totally remodeled and with the
benefit of CAD, now the renderings that we can we
can do are are just amazing. And we can literally
import products into our CAD so we can put actual
products or fact similars of the actual product in there.
And when we do the the renderings on you know,
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in our computer software, you can get a really good
look at what it's going to look like.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Look at the bathroom in particular right now, and it
is the transformation there is it's amazing. I mean it
is it is really obviously really well done.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
But that is amazing thing. What do you guys will do?
It makes you say the slider.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
For folks that haven't Bend Edge Construction Company dot com,
you'll see sometimes some of their projects. You'll be like,
that's not the same room. The nice thing of those
slider pictures you can actually see that space and is that?
I mean, obviously this was this was a pretty substantial project.
Do you guys do work on the outside of this
one as well? Or mostly not much? We we it's
a unique situation. Two sisters, one of them one of
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them is going to live there full time. Another one
will visit but is very handicapped, and so we did
some subtle things there on the inside where we actually
widened hallways, made made doorways bigger.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
The trick to doing.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
That is you don't want you don't want somebody that
didn't go through that process to look at it and go, oh.
They they brought it up to ada standard. They made
they made this a handicap accessible house. We wanted to
be attractive in its own right, but work well for
somebody in a chair or or somebody not a chair.
We built a deck on the backside of this house.
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We had no zero entry, meaning there's a step into
this house from every direction, and we just couldn't overcome
that without a ramp or something that was visible, which
we didn't want the homeowner didn't want. So what we
did was we sort of built a long deck on
the backside of the householder wanted this anyways, did some
landscaping back there to make it look natural and nice.
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And this deck, by the way, had no steps, So
this was a deck where you could roll up going
through a patiodor and it was an access to the house.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
For one of the sisters.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
And so this again hard to envision, right, like you
have to get this stuff in a cad so you
get a top down view of this and start problem
solving to see what's going to work the best.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Is one of the benefits too with the whole Homer
model is since you've lived oftentimes folks have lived in it,
they know where those areas are. They're like, this just
doesn't work for us. I mean, you come across that
quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Thin for sure, because uh, I think at least you
make better choices after you've lived in it for a while.
You know you've got to You've got to notice these
pinch points possibly that that make things don't work. Or
this one had this kind of enclosed kitchen U shaped
kitchen where you know, you end up hating those corner cabinets.
You you feel like you're you're tucked away from every
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even though it was somewhat open, you're still hiding behind
a bunch of stuff. And so like all of these
were models, you're at least with a kitchen area. We're
trying to get that kitchen to join the rest of
the house. So you want to have to be open, inviting,
and that was something that to Homer had brought up.
I remember through the design process it had a sunken
living room floor.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Again, this is a sign of the times.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Right, we we we framed that in uh we just
didn't see it as and hoarder didn't want it. Obviously
it wasn't gonna work for part of the family that
was that was in a chair. Even if not, you know,
with an aging population having steps down, steps up through
the house, if you're walking through those things at night,
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you know you sort of you know, maybe thinking about everything.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
It's a chance to get hurt.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
And so oftentimes we frame that floor in now and
make it all the level. You know, you would never
know when you're walking.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Through that house. So you problem solve a lot of
that stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
You check that outviously, head on over to Edge Construction
Company dot com Rustic farmhouse Remodel.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Definitely take a look at those pictures.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Speaking of getting some ideas, checking out some pictures, maybe
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by Edge Construction Online. Edge Construction Company dot com. That's
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number six three six edge. But talking about whole home
remodeling with Edge conc Instruction and Mikey had mentioned earlier
about some of these projects and the work that goes
into them upfront, and one of the things you're trying
to determine is is it worth putting the money into
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keeping and preserving that home. And obviously the best outcome
is yes, we can save everything and you know, and
do a remodel on it. Sometimes though the numbers don't work,
the reality doesn't work. Maybe there's some serious structural issues
or other things where you just got to basically crumple
up the paper, start over. And by crumple up the paper,
we're talking bulldozing and starting fresh. And you guys do
(38:33):
build a few a year, go complete homes. I know
you've been working on a recent project in the area.
Start literally from the ground up, and that's a great option.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Yeah, and we love doing that too.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
It's fun to do design a house from scratch and
follow it through that whole process and get it and
once in a while, we get I would say, we
get kind of the tougher jobs like that, whether it's
a country house or maybe something on the lake or
or or or a house that needs to be torn
down and built back up. And the last one we
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did a couple of years ago. Like that homeowner had
was pretty handy, had done some things himself to that
house over the years of ownership. It's a really nice
big lot it's in.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
It was in Monona.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
But when they first contacted us about you know, they
had come to the conclusion we need to tear it down.
I was skeptical. I usually think, well, there's a way
out of this. We can save this house, and you've
already put some work into it. But when when I
got looking at it, okay, the foundation was in trouble.
In short, it's like about six feet a pre old,
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pre old house on Monona there. It had been a
probably a kit house in the World War two years,
you know, somewhere around there, maybe the forties or even
even earlier, meaning a catalog house.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
You bought it.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Some of those catalog houses came as a kit on
a truck, offloaded it give you all the as you
build it. This one had and it's not super uncommon
to have weird sized lumbers. So the outside walls, I
think we're a barely three inch sod it was like
an inch and a half by three inch, and then
they a little bit iffy on structure. The intrial walls
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were like half of that. And it just was it
needed so much mechanically, it needed everything. The roof was bad,
the windows are bad, the siding was you know, in trouble.
The structure of the house really wasn't great. And it
didn't take me long to get on board with build
a new house.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yeah, people realized, like Sears used to sell like in
a catalog, you can literally order a house and they
delivered it. I'm guessing not the base would fly modern code.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
You know, right.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah, at the time it was, it was fine, fulfilled
and need I It sounds funny now, but yeah, mo
Mytgomery Ward series. You could buy you actually buy a house.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
You could buy.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
All the materials would come, some of them would even
even appliances would come.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
You'd have I suppose there's a big box store.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Around that I've heard of that that sort of packages
that way. I think, you know, I'm not I'm not
saying it's a bad deal. Everything would be up to code.
It's it's one way to do it when you're building. Now,
I'm pretty specific on things like deflection in floors, and
so we end up having to modify something like that,
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and design and owners just aren't this way where I'm okay, perfect,
I found the perfectousis. But generally we get people saying, well,
I want to make this room bigger. Okay, well that
kind of throws out the roof and now we've got
to redesign things. But there's obviously nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Ever work on a restaurant. All those metal homes. Have
you ever seen those?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
They are like.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Barnuminiums and stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yeah, nothing like that.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Now I have not, but I'm dying to you. Let's
do it.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
You've got one, or you had any type of project.
Might love to talk with you.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
If it's I was going to say, the stranger the better.
But if you've got something unique, who better to call
than Mike and.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
The team at Edge Construction.
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mister Mike two egg of Edge Construction Mike, how you
been great, Joan, good to see you. Spring is empty
(00:42):
us here? Yeah, I think wait a little pump fake, Yeah,
I think it's I think as far as the calendar, meteorological,
the vernal equinox, I do believe we had and so
we're there in any day now, it's going to be there.
Which is I think for a lot of and I'll
ask you because you would know this answer. This is
the time where people really start to get active and
start thinking about Homer modeling, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I think it's just like you've been trapped in your
house for four months, and maybe it's like you get
a little more optimistic about doing things when the sun
comes out and it warms up a little bit and
then it gets called the end.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
But then it's going to get warm, and your guys
are going year round too, by the way, for folks
that don't know you guys, as we're kind of exiting
winter right now, your guys have been going all winter long.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Oh yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
There are projects that I don't love to do or
especially start in the winter. So I think we're gonna
get into a little bit of that today. But yeah,
our food has to grow on the table at edge
for our people year round for sure. And construction now
we've figured out ways to keep things going and we
just power through when the weather gets bad and we
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live in Wisconsin, it's not great for at least part
of the year.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, we know that, we accept that, and so looking
forward then to spring. In this week's topic that Tye
in is, we're talk about a whole home remodel and
this stuff can include the entire inside outside additions, those
type of things. So we're really in prime season to
be thinking about that, aren't we.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
We are because.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And on our schedule we do three to four of
those year. If if two of those are whole hoss
remodels where we're not adding on, where we're not pouring concrete,
then we then we can do four pretty pretty comfortably.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Almost said easily. I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I don't think there's an easy It's not an easy
part of that. But in case the point, we had
a one that is nearing the finish line right now.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
It's downtown Madison.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
There's a big old house down there that was a
rental and was divided into two and and now two
people bought the house together and are they're actually they're
actually sisters and they're they're combining it and turning it
back into what it was originally, which is a one
you know, a single house, one kitchen, two stairways.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
But yeah, that that kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
We're not pouring concrete there, and so that's something we
were able to work on through the rough weather.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
You know, it wasn't wasn't too intense that way.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
We talk about by the way, going duplex to single.
Do you do vice versa ever? Do folks ever call
you and say, we're looking to convert this into or
is that a different type of maybe a different different
company to be working with. Have you guys ever done
anything like that the opposite.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I'm sure we have.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
It's it's we're not generally called in for that stuff
because when when when somebody that's in that business and
they want to it's obviously they want to rent this out.
They're not generally trying to do a model like our
kind of remodel. It's more of a okay, how how
what's the least I can put into this place to
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get it turned into a rental? And even even working
on a on a house that was a rental and
turning it into a house for for somebody's family, it
seems like nothing ever good happens in the rental sense,
Like things don't get fixed like they would get fixed
for somebody that lives there and loves that house. So
it tends to be like like this one, we had
(04:05):
really tear down a lot of stuff and and update
a lot of mechanicals, and the electrical was a mess,
and we knew that going in. I mean, we did
our due diligence, so we know what we're getting into.
But yeah, it's a much different deal.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Is that really rewarding getting a chance to kind of
restore You talk about big old homes, especially in the city,
I've got to guess.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
There's when that thing was built.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
There's probably a substantial amount of craftsmanship and uniqueness that
has been over the years being used to the rental
completely eliminated. Being able to revive then bring that back
has got to be a really rewarding and a lot
of fun for you guys.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
It is.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
It is gonna be really fun. Now we're to the
we're putting back together stage. We're at drywall, so all
the fixing structurally has been done, all the all the
mechanicals are now up to date except for the very
very finishes.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
And it's really gonna be fun to see the choices
go back in there, the cabinet choices, flaring chos is
just the the the we really feel like you're doing
right by a house like that when you're when you're
when you're investing this amount of time in it.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, I got to be hopeful too as I see it,
you know, I think the old joke is the official
bird of Madison is the crane, and it's not.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It's the actual cranes, cranes.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
As I see more high rises and other things going
up downtown, you've got to guess some of those old
multi unit homes, I'm hoping and and you know, maybe
this is just one example of hopefully many of those
owners saying, you know what, maybe we'd like to keep
this or restore it to its old glory and you know,
kind of keep a piece of that that beautiful Madison history.
(05:38):
I know there's obviously some blocks, you know, if you're
right down campus, probably not that's which they're thinking. But
there's some areas where I bet that that's a real, real, great,
uh maybe thing to aspire to.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I think what you're saying is everything can't be concrete
and stuck off right and first stories high and some
version of a square or rectangle. And okay, well, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Love the old buildings. I love the old I love
the old houses, and uh.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I I don't know how long is what what else
has to be given up down there before you lose
too much of your character down town. So I don't
know some of these some of these old buildings are
seemed to be getting lost in their neighbors. They're just
these big, tall structures and the residential neighborhoods largely haven't
been hit quite so bad. But I don't know the
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future hopefully, Isn't that right?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, exactly talking this morning with Mike two eg, owner
of EDGE Construction. The website Edge Construction Company dot com.
It's all one word, Edge Construction Company dot com. They're
top number six o eight six three six three three
four three that number six three six Edge.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So going from the city, let's head out towards the country.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I know one of the projects that you guys often
are doing our farmhouse restorations and whole Homer models on
those and same kind of approaches really oftentimes trying to
restore those those homes to to their glory days. And
you know, we talk about the website some beautiful results
on that. That's another area I've got to guess. You
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get a get a fair amount of folks wanting to
work with you guys on those projects you.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Do, and those are those are great projects too. It's
a you got you go from working downtown.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Where uh you know, you got no place to park.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
You got all these trades you got just getting the
trash out of there as a challenge, uh to getting
out of the country and working on some of those
old country houses generally went by the way. When somebody's
set to do a whole Homer model. A lot of
those houses that that kind of end up doing that
haven't had much updating over the years. And uh we
had one uh this last year, I believe we finished
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up a country house farmhouse I was built in the sixties,
no updating since, and it's amazing how kind of out
of date and how much work needed to be done
to bring it up to code and just get it
act to zero.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
But we probably go much.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Farther than that because when when houses generally get built,
and I would pick on the builders a little bit,
those words builder grade sneak in there, and uh, you
know that was around in the sixties and the fifties
and probably the seventies quite a bit. And that initial
group of choices that got put in there, the flooring,
the cabinets, the plumbing, fixtures, all all that stuff, uplighting, upgrading,
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lighting and mechanicals. Sometimes those things get done to a
minimum a little bit on the new construction side. So
when you bring it up to date with really good product,
really good, really good, you have an opportunity to use
all this great choice, you know, a lot more choices
now to design those houses.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
And so that's.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Really fun because you're making this house into something that's
never been are you?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Are you still seeing shake carpetever? You guys having to
any of that stuff these days?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yes, we do, And I believe we have one coming
up where the shag goes into the bathroom again.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Oh no, no, what were you mentioning a project like
that a few years ago?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Just the worst idea?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
And I get why shake carpeting might have been popular
at one time, But shake carpeting in a bathroom.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Maybe the inside of a van or something.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Why not? Why?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
But yeah, I always joke that I don't tell our
people when it's demo.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Just cound be like, you know, just try to try
to block this day from me.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Remember that carp could talk. I don't know if you'd
want to hear what it was saying talking.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
We uh.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I always think when I walk into that that house
that has not been up or maybe maybe that master
bath is from the sixties and it's like the last
thing to get done in this house. And I always
think Austin Powers lives here like this is this is
Uh yeah, did you.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Ever come across some of that old wallpaper as well,
with like the the coffee pots.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I don't know if you ever, like I remember, like.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
In the seventies and eighties, I've ever seeing a lot
of houses with that, like they have like tea.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yes, the borders. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
We we tear out a fair amount of wallpaper in
our business. We're actually, I can't believe I'm saying this,
starting to put some back in. There's wallpaper is coming around.
I hear from my designers and uh, some people in
my family, and I'm going, no, no.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
No, we we tear it out, but we just installed one.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Actually I did like it's kind of I don't know
what style you art deco. I guess that's a that's
the thing, and that's that's a modern twist on our deco.
There's the wallpaper world, like everything has grown in choices
and there's some cool stuff. I have a little PTSD
from tearing it out, so maybe that's just my own
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personal thing. I'm I'm not super excited about it, but
we do what our designers tell us to do. We're
gonna have allies at a construction.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
It's there.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Wallpaper is a funny thing too, because it seems you
mentioned that we'd builder grade and and it's not necessarily
a new term. I think some of those older wallpapers
that kind of give us the shivers are some of those,
you know, the very inexpensive, very simple print you know
on them or design on them. They and they just
don't farewell. I do think of and when you were
talking about some of the newer wallpapers, I've seen even
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even older stuff with really nice texture, really nice I'm
gonna guess that these were these were things that back
in the day there was some good investment, which is clearly.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Why they've held up so well.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
And I've got to assume that some of this new
stuff is is very much like that, where it's a
really good product that's got it's not just a cheap
little sticker that you put on.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Uh the one I'm gonna I'll educate you a little bit, Okay,
it's it's it's uh, the world is always buyer b are.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
A lot of the product that's out there is stuff
that we probably went and saw it's it's there's there's
a lot of about half the market for wallpaper right
now is peeling sticks, and I think they're meaning it's
it's almost like tape. You you you peel a back off,
and you're in business if you get it stuck up
there a little bit crooked. Oops, it's probably gonna it's
probably wrecked. It's got to come back off. And so
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we like product that either that where we apply the
glue so we can we can roll on the glue,
get the glue on the wall. It gives us a
little bit of wiggle room to get that thing straight.
Patterns are still somewhat complicated, and you don't have to
be a carpenter to notice when something's off a little bit.
You know, if they're not quite matching up. So do
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a really good job about this. You need the right product,
just like anything else. We have not installed the peeling sticks.
I'm very resistive to the piling sticks, even though they've
sort of taken over the market. I think they're just
like I said, trying to peel the homeowners and going, well, okay,
you just peel the back off, put it up on
the wall. But in my mind, I'm going, Okay, I
needed this has to be straight, and it's got to
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the patterns have to match up up, and that's a
lot tougher to do with when you're when you have
no wiggle room. And so yeah, I'm not sure what's cheaper.
It appears to me like none of this stuff is cheap,
by the way. You can spend quite a bit of
money even doing a small room with wallpaper, and so uh,
less is more in my world, you know, like we
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we have, by the way taken, we've model houses that
people really loved wallpaper at some point in that house
where we're like almost every available space is wallpaper and
it's not fun to take it out of there, and
I don't think it's really appealing.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Have you found an art to removing old wallpaper?
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Because yeah, no, we have, I mean we elbow well
in the end.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yes, you know, we've we've had on one end of
the scale most of the time it's not too bad
to take up. We use steamers, we do, you know,
those prickly rollers and get water through there and and
we'll get it.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Off fairly easily and wash off the wall depending on
the globe.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
We've had other times where there's two or three layers
of wallpaper, and sometimes that gets really tough. It just
doesn't want to give up the ghost. And I'll have
Gary over there working on it. I'm thinking it's we've
done in a few hours, which is probably true optimistic anyways,
and Gary's like two days later, I'm still taking off
wall paper. Just so you know this one, it's a
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little unpredictable.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Yeah, it could be done.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
You mentioned peel and stick by the way, I was
at the big box store the other day and I
saw peel and stick tiles and I thought, yeah, a
playhouse maybe.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I don't know that. It didn't a couple of things
to me. I look at it.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I said, that doesn't look like a real like real
tile work, and I thought.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
There's no way that that can hold off. Are you obvious?
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I'm holds up, okay.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
And plus if it, if it does fall off, you
can just you know, throw a little pl back, a
little construction adhesive maybe back there and hold that tile.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
And I think it's serve a stop gap, or it's.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Marketed to the flippers went real big with the peel
and stick backsplashes, Because if you have a super inexperienced
homeowner and they come in and they go, oh, it's
got a backsplash, Well great, look a little closer like
a lot of those aren't, you know, don't get grouted.
It's sort of just I'm gonna get it up there.
And if a homeowner does it most of the time,
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I think, I know, I'm not assuming they're thinking it's
gonna last twenty years. You know, it's more of a
it's something where it's a it's a money saver and
it takes care of the problem for now. Like anything,
you can really mess up the install like you know,
cutting them can be a trick and get them straight
lines and not having it look goofy you're on outlets
and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
But uh, yeah, that's out there. My advice is, uh,
if you're going to do it, Sean yeah on the upside,
can come over and watch.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah gets you it gets you a comfortable chair and
yeah laughing. Yeah, I guess it sounds to me like
something that because I saw that, I love else said
interesting concept and sounds like this might be something much
like painting cabinets.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
People are just kind of bring that up.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I was gonna ring that because that got real big
with the flippers right. Painting the cabinets usually buys you
a few years and then you're going, okay, this.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
My cabins are still falling apart. Not much I can do.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
But again, if you're if you're, you do that. You
put up a few new light flixtures. You you you
paint the walls, you put up a peel and stick
backsplash to uh. Somebody coming in that's really inexperienced, doesn't
doesn't know what to look for in a house and
might think, wow, oh, kitchen's done. I don't have to
do anything here for a long time, you know, until
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you get in there and spend some time and really
figure out what it looks like.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Really interesting stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
As they talk this morning with Mike Twig, we are
actually talking about whole homer modeling. But I get and
I apologize, I get very sidetracked sometimes some of these
some of these new uh products and concepts and and
what folks are doing, and we'll get back to whole
homer modeling. And I think it's we were thinking about
some folks maybe buying a little bit extra time when
they decide to do it right. I think a whole
homer modeling is a is an amazing option for folks.
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We'll talk about additions and some other things with Mike.
Will do that in just a moment to meantime, been
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Speaker 2 (17:37):
Great website, great resource.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Your telephon number six oh eight six three six three
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Speaker 4 (17:48):
Mike.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I have no idea why.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
We try to make it as easy for you as possible.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yes, color coded. Everything is is very very simply laid out.
And I, of course I ever saw still over the
we were talking started our conversation talking about a whole
home remodeling and a little bit of sidetrack, but important
conversation that first segment, And and Mike, as we do
talk about whole home remodeling, additions are.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
If you've got the if you've got the space.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
In the on the lot, it's really a you know,
if you've got the house you love, you got the
neighborhood you love, you got all of that stuff. If
there's a butt an addition, maybe maybe the perfect thing.
And I know you guys do a few additions on
homes each year as well, don't you.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
We do.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
And for us that I kind of group those additions
in with whole home models because it's it's it's a
bigger job, needs more horsepower, a lot more planning. We've
got architectural things to worry about. Concrete is the trick
right now, by the way, Concrete, especially a wall. Concrete
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walls are kind of the wild card and construction. The
last couple of years, there just aren't enough of those
companies left a lot of the smaller and mid size
wall companies as we just call them all companies they
pour the poor foundation walls.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Either disappeared or retired.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
In eight the smaller and mid sized guys, there's a
few real big ones. There's a lot of flatwork though,
that's the stuff you walk on. Obviously, there's plenty of
those type of crews, but we need some of those
people to get into the wall business like that. I
think they would do really well. And and for additions,
so it takes a lot of planning for us because
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we have a great company that does it for us.
I call them mid sized, but uh, you know, we've
got to plan several months in advance to fit into
their schedule.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
And so so that's what throws. That's why I group.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
The additions in with the with the with the whole
Homer models. I mean, maybe just call it a little
kind of bigger jobs, like comparable.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Do they pair together then?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Like for folks that I mean, I think of if
I'm going to do an addition, it's probably a good
time to be really working on kind of touching most
rooms in the house.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
The last let's see, we had one. It seems like
we get a job a year where we have to
tear the roof off and go up right. We had
one of those recently where we did that. We paired
that with a small addition and we were there doing it.
We we got the roof off. We a little addition.
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They had a kind of a i'll just say a
crappy one car garage where the concrete is all broken
up and a mess and couldn't even fit one car
his older house. And so we got him a legit
two car garage that involved an addition that's that's also
an edition concrete We tore off what was there rebuilt
back on.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
So yes, for sure with those.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
You mentioned the one car garage that you can't really
fit a car, and I think of old time cars
and I'm like, how did what was the planet? Because
they think about size, they were nice big yeah, but it.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Was like, I don't know if it was you know,
you know, we're talking houses that were probably from the
fifties ish uh in that in that case anyways, and
it just was okay, maybe you could fit it in there,
but have been super tight and you couldn't have room
for anything else in there. That's not how people live, right,
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We need a place to put things. And I think
that one Cai garage was did not have a vehicle.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
People were skinnier then too, right, That's what out odd
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Speaker 2 (21:39):
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Speaker 1 (21:40):
There's obviously a whole whole Homer model, so you need
some unique aspects of it. Some things are are easier,
some things are much more complicated with with the design.
For example, you know, trying to tie things in is one.
You know, if you're if you're going to be touching
all the different spaces, I've got to guess the design.
I wouldn't say it's easier, but it's probably something that
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that you can get a little There's probably a little
bit more flexibility because you don't have to worry about
tying in with what's existing, because you're going to be
updating everything correct.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Right if you're if you're just doing a kitchen or kitchen,
great roomor model, you can pick your style and a
lot of times it's not what the house was built
with originally. I mean, if if people had a choice,
they're going to go a different direction generally. But if
you're if you're keeping the rest of that, you know,
the rest of that downstairs or first floor or whatever
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it is, you at least have to compliment that. And
so if you're if you're starting from a scratch, you're
peeling out what was there. You do get to pick
your you do get to make your choices. And I
always think like, okay, versus how how much of the
plan can we can we get done? Versus just building
a new house? Right, if you're going to do a
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whole Homer model, I think you have to you have
to consider that. Okay, if you can work with the
existing footprint and get maybe ninety percent of the where
you want to get to, you know, you're updating, you're reconfiguring,
possibly some rooms so they make more sense. Yeah, you
might not maybe do if you built brand new, maybe
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get one more bedroom in another bath or something. But
if you get ninety percent of the way there, it
probably makes sense. If you can only get seventy percent
of the way there, well that's a lot tougher decision
because it is expensive to do. Turned down a perfectly
good house, in my mind, is wasteful. So I'm I
think we spend a lot of time on design in
these projects because we really want to do what's right
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and get there ideally with the footprint that we have,
but sometimes it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Do we see, folks, open concepts still a big thing,
still removing walls and I know there was not a
complete reversal, but I know maybe a little bit of
a pullback of maybe a little bit more strategic with
the placement of walls and things, or where do we
kind of stand with with that part of the project.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Man, I it seems like more experienced home owners maybe've
owned a few homes, Uh, they don't mind a little
bit of separation here and there. The younger crowd, the
first time home by crowd, you can see what's getting built.
We we work a lot for builders on the on
the new construction side in nine County, and literally some
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houses have so few walls on the main floor that
we have no place around mechanical. So it's like, well,
you know, this completely open concept. I'm I'm built a
little more like I'm okay with having a little bit
of separation here and there. But I would say the
trend definitely isn't there yet.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Okay, Yeah, I was I was curious.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I'm like, oh, okay, it's a long way to get there,
but yeah, no, it's it's and it's it's. It's great
perspective too as we as we talk about some of
the projects. And I know one of the great things
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Edge talking this week about whole home remodeling some of
the projects that that they can do at Edge Construction,
and I know, obviously a very a popular one for folks,
especially uh if you know you love the house, but
you just want to get a good updating for the
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whole home. We talked about kind of the open concept
and I don't think the word is closed concept.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
But what about like some of those.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Old Victorians where they do have a number of rooms
and a lot of beautiful character and a lot of
a lot of woodwork. I know that that restoration, Uh,
the type of work that you guys do at Edge
Construction works very well for those type of types of projects.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah, does your house have a parlor? I wish what
would you put in the parlor?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
A sitting chair or too?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yeah, like you gotta you you have to make your
way when you're a visitor, you like either your you
might stop at the parlor if you're not important enough,
and then if you if you make it to another layer,
you're you're past the parlor.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I visited one of our one of the one of
our neighbors, and they in a very old I think
it was the old Catholic church, the rectory, and like
you come in and there's like a nice little entry
for youer there, and then there's a sliding door and
there's a nice bariller where you sit down with a
beautiful bar and stuff like that. That type of work, though,
you think about some of those beautiful old homes and
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doing right by them and really putting that work in.
I know when talking with you, I think we probably
talked about it on there, but even off air, you
really love doing that kind of work, don't you.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
We do.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
And the real trick if you're going to start making modification,
because those old houses did have some fatal flaws by
today's standards. The kitchen is probably in a back corner
and it's an eight by nine room that nobody ever saw.
It wasn't like that was the center of the house.
So generally we're trying to make at least make it
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bigger and hopefully get it more centralized, because that's just
how we live now. So we've done that remodel several times.
Where there's a nice size room in the middle of
the house. Maybe we get in that old kitchen becomes
an office, this one becomes maybe.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Take over the parlor. I'm not sure what.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
But you can also make some big mistakes by opening
that up too much. You still want the feel of
the you know, want to lose the feel of that old,
beautiful house in that construction. We're very careful when we
take apart trimwork in that house, all the woodwork in
that house, because we want to preserve as much of
that as possible. You can reproduce it, but it doesn't
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have the same feel for some reason as twenty five
coats of paint or it just the old stuff does
feel different. And trying to try if it's stained would work.
That's really a trick because you know, we've got some
tricks to kind of add age to it. Trying to
add age to it. But they had different trees back then.
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You know, they had six foot wide dug fur pine
trees up north that they would cut down and that
eight would looked a lot different. Performed a lot different
than the new kind of quick girl stuff that we
generally build with.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Now let's ask you.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Too about the trim work.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
And I know you work with and especially on some
of those older homes that have very I mean that
stuff was oftentimes one off that was trim that was
maybe used just for that whatever that to die or
what would you describe it as, To cut that and
create that that was the project and they were done with.
You do work with people that are able to recreate
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that stuff, don't you.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
We do you recreate it, And generally it wasn't just one.
It would at least be sort of regionally Oka like
around in the same stay like in Madison. There's a
few kind of in our world sort of famous styles
of trim and when we were model and take that
stuff out, even if we're not reusing that on that project,
we will keep that and store that because sometimes we
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need one piece of casing from nineteen twenty and it's like, okay,
we've got one in the shop.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
We can we can fix up and make work. And
even if.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
It's reproducible, Like I said, I think we're better off
with the old stuff about.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Like those seventies and eighties kind of homes where you know,
I think of especially like the staircase area, and you know,
there was oftentimes I think a lot of us have
either maybe lived in that, maybe you live in this
house now, or at least no folks at the house
were like you come in the front door and right
away there's like this this enclosed staircase that goes straight
(30:25):
up to the second floor. I know, part of bigger
projects and whole Homer models. A lot of times folks
are saying, let's find ways to open that or make
that a little bit more part of the house and
a little bit more decorative. And I know you guys
at Edge Construction have done a number of those over
the years.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yeah, we like opening that up and giving this some personality.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Design.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Just moved through all these phases from you you talked
about Victorians, where they were fancy and everything stood out
and really custom, and then progress through the up to
the nineteen fifties, and I'd kind of group a lot
of the fifties houses to the seventies houses is they're
kind of homogenized, right, They're utilitarian, they got the job done.
(31:11):
You know, a three bedroom seventies ranch there it seems
like there's a million of them out there. They work great,
are they flashy? Nope, There's not much personality there. And
so when we can open things up. The stairways are
a great example, because nobody really wants to go on
a tunnel to a different floor in the house. So
if we can open up that a little bit and
(31:33):
maybe do a short rail or give it some kind
of personality, a little bit of a different look, I
think it can really changed how a house feels.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And speaking of ranches and significant whole home remodels, I
know at Edge Construction Company dot com featured right now
is a significant remodel you guys did on a ranch
home in the area. Let's talk a little bit about
what goes into those type of projects.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, this one was the height of design in nineteen
sixty or fifty eight or something like that. And if
you look at the before pictures, especially the kitchen I
we got to kick out of that one. The whole
ceiling was a sea of fluorescent lights. They're kind of
like a drop ceiling, but where all the panels were
actually a plastic diffuser, so they had flash of lights
(32:19):
above them. And Sean's laughing, right now looking at it.
I'm not making fun.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Of anybody with this style house, but by the way, but.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Looking at going from that to what it looks like now,
which is completely updated, all new style. The lighting has
changed significantly, the sofits are gone, the.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
House is brightened up like crazy.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I mean there were all the cabins in that house,
by the way, were custom built by a carpenter back
in the sixties.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
I see this face.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
You mentioned the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I just I'm looking that was literally as I scrolled
through the kitchen.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
And so like, oh goodness, a little bit Austin powers
and so. But it's fun to see what's potential is.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
And I.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Know we were I was updating kitchens before we had
use of CAD, of computer aided design. It's certainly before
renderings where you could get a good idea of what
that kitchen was going to look like in the future.
But uh, you know, this Homewner had the benefit of
those things where okay, sometimes it's so bad and so
outdated that you just can't picture what it's You know,
(33:24):
you need to build that picture in your head of
what's going to look like totally remodeled and with the
benefit of CAD, now the renderings that we can we
can do are are just amazing. And we can literally
import products into our CAD so we can put actual
products or fact similars of the actual product in there.
And when we do the the renderings on you know,
(33:45):
in our computer software, you can get a really good
look at what it's going to look like.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Look at the bathroom in particular right now, and it
is the transformation there is it's amazing. I mean it
is it is really obviously really well done.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
But that is amazing thing. What do you guys will do?
It makes you say the slider.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
For folks that haven't Bend Edge Construction Company dot com,
you'll see sometimes some of their projects. You'll be like,
that's not the same room. The nice thing of those
slider pictures you can actually see that space and is that?
I mean, obviously this was this was a pretty substantial project.
Do you guys do work on the outside of this
one as well? Or mostly not much? We we it's
a unique situation. Two sisters, one of them one of
(34:25):
them is going to live there full time. Another one
will visit but is very handicapped, and so we did
some subtle things there on the inside where we actually
widened hallways, made made doorways bigger.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
The trick to doing.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
That is you don't want you don't want somebody that
didn't go through that process to look at it and go, oh.
They they brought it up to ada standard. They made
they made this a handicap accessible house. We wanted to
be attractive in its own right, but work well for
somebody in a chair or or somebody not a chair.
We built a deck on the backside of this house.
(34:59):
We had no zero entry, meaning there's a step into
this house from every direction, and we just couldn't overcome
that without a ramp or something that was visible, which
we didn't want the homeowner didn't want. So what we
did was we sort of built a long deck on
the backside of the householder wanted this anyways, did some
landscaping back there to make it look natural and nice.
(35:23):
And this deck, by the way, had no steps, So
this was a deck where you could roll up going
through a patiodor and it was an access to the house.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
For one of the sisters.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
And so this again hard to envision, right, like you
have to get this stuff in a cad so you
get a top down view of this and start problem
solving to see what's going to work the best.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Is one of the benefits too with the whole Homer
model is since you've lived oftentimes folks have lived in it,
they know where those areas are. They're like, this just
doesn't work for us. I mean, you come across that
quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Thin for sure, because uh, I think at least you
make better choices after you've lived in it for a while.
You know you've got to You've got to notice these
pinch points possibly that that make things don't work. Or
this one had this kind of enclosed kitchen U shaped
kitchen where you know, you end up hating those corner cabinets.
You you feel like you're you're tucked away from every
(36:23):
even though it was somewhat open, you're still hiding behind
a bunch of stuff. And so like all of these
were models, you're at least with a kitchen area. We're
trying to get that kitchen to join the rest of
the house. So you want to have to be open, inviting,
and that was something that to Homer had brought up.
I remember through the design process it had a sunken
living room floor.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Again, this is a sign of the times.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Right, we we we framed that in uh we just
didn't see it as and hoarder didn't want it. Obviously
it wasn't gonna work for part of the family that
was that was in a chair. Even if not, you know,
with an aging population having steps down, steps up through
the house, if you're walking through those things at night,
(37:05):
you know you sort of you know, maybe thinking about everything.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
It's a chance to get hurt.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
And so oftentimes we frame that floor in now and
make it all the level. You know, you would never
know when you're walking.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Through that house. So you problem solve a lot of
that stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
You check that outviously, head on over to Edge Construction
Company dot com Rustic farmhouse Remodel.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Definitely take a look at those pictures.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Speaking of getting some ideas, checking out some pictures, maybe
think about doing a project. Pick up phone, get a
call at Edge Construction telf a number six eight six
three six three three four three that number six three
six edge And of course Edge Construction brings you the
Homer Modeling Show. Right here, I'm thirteen ten dolluble you
ib eight. This is the Homer Modeling Show brought you
(37:47):
by Edge Construction Online. Edge Construction Company dot com. That's
all one word, Edgeconstruction Company dot com. TELFH number six
oh eight six three six three three four three that
number six three six edge. But talking about whole home
remodeling with Edge conc Instruction and Mikey had mentioned earlier
about some of these projects and the work that goes
into them upfront, and one of the things you're trying
to determine is is it worth putting the money into
(38:11):
keeping and preserving that home. And obviously the best outcome
is yes, we can save everything and you know, and
do a remodel on it. Sometimes though the numbers don't work,
the reality doesn't work. Maybe there's some serious structural issues
or other things where you just got to basically crumple
up the paper, start over. And by crumple up the paper,
we're talking bulldozing and starting fresh. And you guys do
(38:33):
build a few a year, go complete homes. I know
you've been working on a recent project in the area.
Start literally from the ground up, and that's a great option.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Yeah, and we love doing that too.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
It's fun to do design a house from scratch and
follow it through that whole process and get it and
once in a while, we get I would say, we
get kind of the tougher jobs like that, whether it's
a country house or maybe something on the lake or
or or or a house that needs to be torn
down and built back up. And the last one we
(39:05):
did a couple of years ago. Like that homeowner had
was pretty handy, had done some things himself to that
house over the years of ownership. It's a really nice
big lot it's in.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
It was in Monona.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
But when they first contacted us about you know, they
had come to the conclusion we need to tear it down.
I was skeptical. I usually think, well, there's a way
out of this. We can save this house, and you've
already put some work into it. But when when I
got looking at it, okay, the foundation was in trouble.
In short, it's like about six feet a pre old,
(39:40):
pre old house on Monona there. It had been a
probably a kit house in the World War two years,
you know, somewhere around there, maybe the forties or even
even earlier, meaning a catalog house.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
You bought it.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Some of those catalog houses came as a kit on
a truck, offloaded it give you all the as you
build it. This one had and it's not super uncommon
to have weird sized lumbers. So the outside walls, I
think we're a barely three inch sod it was like
an inch and a half by three inch, and then
they a little bit iffy on structure. The intrial walls
(40:16):
were like half of that. And it just was it
needed so much mechanically, it needed everything. The roof was bad,
the windows are bad, the siding was you know, in trouble.
The structure of the house really wasn't great. And it
didn't take me long to get on board with build
a new house.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yeah, people realized, like Sears used to sell like in
a catalog, you can literally order a house and they
delivered it. I'm guessing not the base would fly modern code.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
You know, right.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah, at the time it was, it was fine, fulfilled
and need I It sounds funny now, but yeah, mo
Mytgomery Ward series. You could buy you actually buy a house.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
You could buy.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
All the materials would come, some of them would even
even appliances would come.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
You'd have I suppose there's a big box store.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Around that I've heard of that that sort of packages
that way. I think, you know, I'm not I'm not
saying it's a bad deal. Everything would be up to code.
It's it's one way to do it when you're building. Now,
I'm pretty specific on things like deflection in floors, and
so we end up having to modify something like that,
(41:27):
and design and owners just aren't this way where I'm okay, perfect,
I found the perfectousis. But generally we get people saying, well,
I want to make this room bigger. Okay, well that
kind of throws out the roof and now we've got
to redesign things. But there's obviously nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Ever work on a restaurant. All those metal homes. Have
you ever seen those?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
They are like.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Barnuminiums and stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yeah, nothing like that.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Now I have not, but I'm dying to you. Let's
do it.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
You've got one, or you had any type of project.
Might love to talk with you.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
If it's I was going to say, the stranger the better.
But if you've got something unique, who better to call
than Mike and.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
The team at Edge Construction.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Great ay to pick a phone, give a call six
so eight six three six three three four three. The
website edge Construction Company dot com. Of course, Edge Construction
brings you the Homer Modeling Show right here.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
I'm thirteen ten l w UiB i
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