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April 22, 2024 15 mins
The Cruz Show welcomed back friend of the show Kali Uchis , she talked about her album Orquídeas & the different sounds on the album. She also talked about Peso Pluma, her Llama Llama red pajama popularity , and she even mentioned a new album on the way.
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We can get it kiss a longtime. But when is no quiz forgiver?
You know, I'm just a flyaway, so you can take them
by the flying line. Line line, uncle, do y'all next? Pease

(00:25):
yo? And now I don't havea judge, just want to have a
next. No, I won't behere for long. Someone say, I'm
on the running helps looking at that. I don't want to keep that.
Cayuci is back on the cruise show. My g let's get back to it.

(00:48):
That's the intro by DJ fuse overthere, rems yeah, fire right,
Yeah, how you feel? Howyou feeling? I feel good?
How about you? We're feeling good? Man, We're all right. We're
stressed out, we're depressed, we'rehappy, we're everything right, We're all
at one. Okay. Yeah,she's like, that's a lot. That
sounds like, can you talk tosomebody? Yeah, it does, it
does. We're talking to you,yo. Man. We saw you at

(01:10):
Coachella. Congratulations again. We sawyou at Coachella. You came out during
Tyler said, that was crazy thanyou feel good out there? Yeah?
It was. It was cold.It was cold that night. It was
cold, that nice cold. Thelast time we saw you, was at
Coachella as well, and you werelike, sorry for being late, but
it wasn't my fault. Oh thatwas second weekend, second weekend, and
then you decided to kill it.Second weekend was so crazy. Oh my
gosh. So weekend was so stressful. Yeah, but first weekend was great.

(01:34):
I feel like first weekend went waybetter. We were backstage and I
don't know if you remember, butyou were walking off stage. You're huffing
and puffing, right because you justkilled it. Your sweating and here I
am giving you a high five.It's all a blur. It's all a
blur. No right, No,okay, so you don't remember. We
got that out the way. Let'smove on to or to keep us is

(01:55):
out man, Let's get it.Yea. The album is fire man.
What a sound, What a beautifulsound. You gave birth to a sound
as well. This is two kidsnow? Yes? Right? Is that
how it feels releasing an album givingit to the world. I wouldn't compare
it. No, A lot ofpeople do compare it. I know a
lot of artists who feel that way. But I wouldn't compare it to childbirth

(02:16):
though it's not childbirth. I meanlisten. Childbirth is a different thing.
I've seen it in person. It'scrazy. Yeah. Oh well yeah,
I feel like when I release analbum, it's not that it's not ever
really that serious for me. Wow, that's good because that relieves a lot
of pressure that a lot of artis put on themselves. Yeah, because

(02:38):
if it's art, you don't knowif anyone's gonna like it. You don't
even you don't even know what's goingto happen the second that you hit send,
right, Yeah, I think Ikind of just I just let go
after I know that you know,I've done everything that I can. You
just kind of let go and seewhat happens. Crazy. Oh thank you.
I love that song too. Ifeel like that song is slept on.
It's one of the favorites. Man. I'm like, this could be

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on the radio right now. Tooeasy. You don't put it on the
radio? Wise charges djin me right, I'm going to write down the name.
It's dark Winter, it's DJ.Let me let me know. Okay,
stop by their little office to theoffice. You can bang on.
Let's do that, Okay. ButI heart radio, man, Let's go

(03:23):
pay attention outside of the radio.You gave us a lot of club records.
I also felt like that there's arecord, and that's a great way
to end the album. Thank youso much. What inspired you to do
with mea record? Well? Forme, when I was making the album,
I felt like I just tried toexperiment as much as I could with
other Latin genres that I had nevertouched before. I had never done that

(03:44):
before, but I feel like it'ssuch a big part of our culture,
you know, family parties, andso it was always a dream of mine
to be able to make a songlike that, and it just when it
happened, it just happened naturally.So it made sense to close the album
with it, you know, likea big celebration. I felt like the
album was just a celebration in general. Yeah. No, I just felt
like a went by moment, youfeel, you know. When we had

(04:06):
Alicia Keys in here in studio andI asked her, you know, who's
an artist that you want to givetheir flowers too? She said to you,
Oh wow, really she said toyou, And I just want to
know, like, has she everreached out? Do you think there's a
potential like collaboration that could happen withthat. I'm a huge fan. Yeah,
I love but I had no idea. Yeah, she she's like down
to do something with you. Shewants to give you your flowers, she

(04:29):
admires, how sweet. Don't watchyour interviews. That's great expose say.
I was gonna say, you wouldhave seen that if you followed us on
the ground. We're in the conference. I'm sorry, you know with orchids.

(04:53):
You know, there's always this messagethat he represents like beauty, it
represents utility, it represents just likecalmness. What was your like was that
the intention? And what is yourfavorite thing about like springtime? Because of
again, like your Instagram post,the album cover obviously gives off that very
much springtime. But yeah, Ilove well, I love all the seasons,
but I feel like spring for meis very special. Like I feel

(05:15):
like before I even go outside,I could feel when it just turns spring,
Like I don't know, something aboutit just activates me, like I
could really feel it, and Idon't know, it's just it's just beautiful.
The birds chirping. You feel likea different type of piece. And
yeah, it's tranquility, it's inthe air. Yeah, yeah, when
you keep that's crazy too. Oh, thank you love that song. Man.
There's so many songs on the projectwhere you're going back and forth.

(05:39):
Right, it's English, it's Spanish, right, which is very important to
you, right, uh. AndI know when it comes to this project,
you went, you went against thegrain to make it happen. Yeah.
I feel like always when I domy my Latin projects, this is
my second, this is my secondalbum in Spanish, and they told you
you couldn't do it, and yousaid, fuck it, I'm gonna do
it anyway. Well, when Idid my first one, that was the

(05:59):
one that was the hardest. Ifeel like See Melo was definitely harder than
because society did it with See Me. If everyone was a little bit more
like okay, yeah, go forit. You know, we try again.
But I think it's always you know, trying to navigate like two different
you know, like they call itlike the Anglo market versus like the light
and marketing is like different worlds.It's a balancing act for sure. Really

(06:23):
is what was the easiest song towrite on that project? Where you were
like, Wow, that was easyand that came out great. I think
the Matha probably happened the most themost naturally, where I just I just
wrote that, you know, withno no music. I just I just
wrote it and then we produced aroundit. I think songs like that are
the most easiest, crazy too,thank you. So you're you're Is it

(06:46):
submissive? Is that the word?Are you being submissive in it? Am
I being submissive in us? Like? Right? Yeah, like I'm trying
to remember the legs. Yeah,I've been in my owners all day.
Right. Yeah, I wouldn't callit submissive. I would call it more
like, Yeah, it's very feminine. It's a very feminine song. I
think a lot of the album isabout like femininity, having standards as a

(07:11):
woman, accepting good things into yourlife and you know, letting it be
known you know what you want.Speaking of which one, what are some
green flags for Calie geez? Greenflags? He always got the funny question
green flags that means they're stupid question. I asked them to questions. No

(07:35):
green flags. I would say agreen flag is somebody, like I think
when you notice that somebody's considerate.I think consideration is probably the biggest green
flag. Consideration for your feelings,for your space. Consideration. Yeah.
Man, the joint you did withpencil plum a crazy, congratulations, thank
you. Yeah. Was that avibe in the studio? Was that just
the email session? No, thatwas more like, yeah, we sent

(07:56):
him a few songs, what areyou feeling. I was really excited when
he picked that song. I wasnot expecting him to pick that song.
It's different. Yeah, it's verydifferent for him, So I was really
yeah, of course, yeah,So that was the most exciting part to
me. Was kind of just wondering, Oh, my gosh, how was
his first gonna sound when he turnsit in? But he did a great
job. True artist welcomes different productionsbecause they get bored of like doing the

(08:20):
same ship all the time, andthe true artists like, yo, you
know what, it's so different,and I'm down for the challenge. Yeah,
And it's nice to be able tobring people into my world because I
feel like I'm so versatile as anartist that sometimes I'm I'm worried, can
somebody, you know, jump onone of my songs and really find a
way to balance themselves into it?And he did it so perfectly that I

(08:41):
couldn't have asked him to do it. It just worked out right. How
long did it take to get done? Because he's in the verse right away.
How long How long did it takefor him to like, hey,
puppy, where's it at doggie?No, he didn't. Yeah, I'm
trying to remember how long he didn't. He didn't take a long time.
He was pretty quick with it.And then after he turned in his vocals,

(09:01):
I just kind of like mix themin with mine a little better,
did a couple more ad lips onmy own to blend them better. But
yeah, it was easy. Howmany songs did you have to pick pick
from for this project? Like,there's obviously a lot of songs that didn't
make the cut, right and allthose songs are sitting there. Yeah,
I would say I would say Idon't have I normally have a lot of

(09:24):
different demos. I would say thisalbum there was probably the least extra demos,
because I even was thinking about doinga delexe. I was gonna do
a delexe and I was like,I really don't have that many extra songs.
Yeah, yeah, so not thatmany, not that many. Not
that many to you. So thethousand to you is like holy yeah,

(09:48):
no it was. I would sayit was like five, Like, yeah,
most of the songs that I madefor the album I felt really strongly
about in that moment. I haveother albums like the album That's that I'm
about to get ready to roll out. I would say that one definitely has
like a lot a lot more tomake a delex here. What's the most
exciting thing about it? Rollout?For you? I think just I love

(10:11):
like I'm a big fan of newbeginnings. I just love a new beginning.
Absolutely, new beginnings are here.We got you a gift really quick,
and we always come correct. Keyis here. You guys are so
giving. It's giving gifts. Youknow what I'm saying. That's what I
give you. What is it?Turn it around? Turn it around.

(10:37):
Turn it's like a laptop. Ohit's a lama. Yeah, it's like
laptop on it. Thank you.You know. Actually, the the Lama
Lama people reached out to sign abunch of books for the baby. We
beat them to the punch and thenyou guys, that's your own. You

(10:58):
know, your Lama Lama red Pajamahere on the Cruise Show is probably the
most legendary, most viral one.Thank you man, I mean what that
did? Yes, there is noyour Lama Lama's crazy. You got fans
waiting for you to perform it too. After the show, do you see

(11:20):
those tiktoks? Yeah, you knowdancing like yeah, no, I love
it. I love it. It'sfunny because you guys, remember I didn't
even want to do it that yeah, And I was like, no,
I'm so for some reason, everytime I have pressed i'm sick. I'm
not sick this time, but Iwas like, no, I'm sick.

(11:41):
I don't feel good. I feelconfident. My boys were like dance and
even after we did it, evenafter we did it, I was like,
no, let's not put it out. Remember, like I didn't even
want to put it out. We'relike, no, it's fired. You
guys see it that there? Everyone? Yeah, exactly. You give every
one time to like rehearse it.You're giving me no time like we as
we don't, yeah, because Ihad no idea we were even going to
do that that damn. And it'sfunny because I seen a comment of gross

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like this is clearly stage, thisis clear. I was like, oh
my gosh, was it good likethat? Like I really, even after
it came out, I didn't thinkthat it was good. Yo, it's
fire now, you know, sosweet? Yeah, it's so sweet because
it just it's just a reminder oflike sometimes the things that connect the most
of people are really the things thatare just off the top, like the

(12:26):
most natural. Absolutely, Yeah,that was extremely organic, and you gave
it your best and it came outand you're horrible, and that's what people
connect with. You know what Iconnected with your rendition? Oh yeah,
I think it has like lover hate. It has like lover hate type of
things. People either hated it soin the comments often no, I would

(12:46):
say, I was like at thattime, I definitely like I was like
so cringed by that cover. Likewhen I would see it sometimes show up
on when I U SeeU Twitter,I'll be like, let me not scroll
down because I just know it's gonnabe people. It's like that all covers
in general. Yeah, covers arehard. Yeah, you know, And
I do want to say, Kelly, you know the Lama Lama Repajama Challenge

(13:07):
started here on the Cruise Show.You know, it's a bit and it's
bigger than us. It's it's worldwide. You know, parents use it to
introduce hip hop to their children.They use it in classrooms. Your voices
in classrooms worldwide because of Lama LaLama, Lama repajama, And we don't
make a dime off of that.I was about to say, sor are
you getting like you want to cutWe don't make a dime off of the

(13:30):
iHeart might, but do we donot make a dime off of that?
And there's pure intention behind that bit, and which is thankful that you're a
part of it with us. Sosweet for real, man, what's up
Jack? When it comes to feminity. I know you mentioned that you know
it's very important to you, andI feel like that's what resonates with a
lot of your fans. How doyou still try and channel it without being

(13:52):
like okay, like maybe today's notthe day for that. Well, I
feel like for me, I don't. I don't like try to overthink anything.
Like when I make music, Itry to just you know, do
what feels natural, do what comesto me in that day, in that
moment. So I never feel thatthat is a force or that it's like

(14:13):
I'm like even when I started makingmusic and people would be like, oh,
you know, like I've never calledmyself like, oh I'm a feminist
or like I'm part of this movementor anything. People just kind of put
that on me because of the waythat my music is. But I had
never even thought of my music thatway. Like I it wasn't an intentional
I think it's happening organically because youuse Yeah, I feel like I just
happened to be a woman and I'mreally I'm really proud of other women,

(14:37):
and so people put that title like, oh feminism, da da da,
But I feel like it's just you. Yeah, it's just me. Yeah.
Yeah, I don't feel that Isubscribe to like any any type of
title for sure. For sure chickfor like we still supporting Chick fil like

(14:58):
question it was going on. Iwill say this in true Latino form.
We have a baby, right backto work. Congratulations. Yeah, I
love that. Thank you, don'tstop. Can we just gave birth and
was on a stage ten minutes later. I mean it was that quick man,
yell congratulations. We love you hereat the Cruise Show. We value
in your time. Come see usanytime. You know that. Thank you.

(15:22):
Let's get it. Cruise Show Realninety two to three. Hey Jack,
your rich for the Cruise Show.Thanks for listening to the Cruise Show
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