September 6, 2024 • 29 mins
Shenseea stopped by the Cruz Show to talk about her new album Never Gets Late Here, she also bragged about her cooking, talked about her belief in Dragons, why she wants a Rihanna collab & so much more. It's a fun interview, tap in!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
MIGGI, I hit on on MIGGI, I.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
He's on.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Jump be headline.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
When you had that gassline, jump belly playing, when you
hit that assline, don't be awadsline, when.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
You hit up.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Dad that that can love me? You're right? Ah yeah
dad here that I can last on. Let me tell
you that want to get done looking the mirror, say yes,
I'm the best best best, best, best best best, Wait
for the best best best.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Just one night's over, rug me, burk me up, get
exasize and burn me up.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Sleep big boy bus turned me up and turned me up.
Just one night.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Word.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Since he is back on the cruise show, let's get it,
let's go, let's go. Shout the DJ Fuse for that intro.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Thank you DJ Fuse for sure mixed. You should have
been at the show.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah that for real. Now got to open up you
know sure pause? Absolutely yeah, yea, I said open up.
I don't know. I don't know. Since he is here
back on the cruise, so good to have you back.
Thank you very much for your time and energy and
the music. We appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Thank you for having me again.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Absolutely, you look great. You look happy.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I am happy. You look I'm extremely happy, happy for you.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It took smiles.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, I was stressed to you're so sure, But this
year I've been so happy, extremely happy.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Did we learn to shake things off, let things go
and we're not in control of maybe and.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
What we can be in control off we take control
and cut it off?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You know? So that's what I've been doing mostly, Like
if the energy is better on me, I'm just like, yeah,
you gotta go.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Was there a certain like turning point for you at
that like that you start thinking that way?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yes, I found myself I think early December, just sitting
on the couch like in total depression for like days,
and my son would watch me doing that and my
auntie and my people, and I just like I was like,
what is this? This is not even me, you know, like,
what the hell is happening? What am I doing? I
need to get it together? And that's when I decided
to be like, you know what sacrifices just have to
(02:23):
be made now?
Speaker 6 (02:24):
Absolutely did say cut off with a lot of conviction.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So what or who did you cut off?
Speaker 6 (02:30):
And what was that process like after detaching yourself from then?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Was it Americans that got you into the.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Plast it's so dark here, sorry to say, Oh my god.
It's like so much sensitivity, so much fakeness, so much
you know, it's everywhere. But I feel like just me
being a new space, like it came with a lot,
you know, and just dealing with new people. It's like
you don't know if you should let them go or
(02:56):
you should give them some chances. So yeah, it was
just more about me staying authentic to myself again and
not like listen to anybody and just follow my core,
you know how I really feel. Yeah, and anyone who
wasn't aligned with that just yeah, had to say.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Sometimes you're like, I don't even give family this many chances, Like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I don't because at the end of the day, I
am in love with my craft and my business. It's
my purpose, you know. So I do try to give
chances to get stuff right, but you know, sometimes it
just doesn't work out.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
I'm glad you say authenticity because I do feel like
when you're authentic to yourself, that's what you really that's
when you attract what's really.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Meant for you, and that's when you're flying.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
When you're pretending to be something that you're attracting ship.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
But it's so weird though, because I feel like you
never really know when you're pretending to be something you're not.
Probably you're telling yourself that, let me try this and
see if it can be me, as in like it's
the growth period, you know, let me see if this
is my evolution. You don't know if oh, you're faking
it until after a while you're like, this is not
making me happy. Then you know, you know when you
(04:02):
do it sometimes.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Because I think you're trying, you're trying to see if
this is where I'm going or this is where I'm at,
and this is the vibe, and then you realize this isn't.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Me and this is not what everybody figures it out.
Getting a job, you know you don't like it because
you've done it for so long, until you go start
your own business.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
We're all walking around this planet trying to just figure
it out as parents, as friends, as sisters and brothers
and performers. Right, never gets lid here. Congratulations, that's out everywhere,
crazy crazy project, big vibes on there. Yeah, you're talking
that shit as you should though, Right, that's that's where
you that's what that confidence is, right, or that's what
(04:38):
that confidence sounds like, that's me, that's you.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, I'm a very confident person.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I love to empower women. I love to give attitude
and energy and emotions in my tracks. So as I said,
you know when you hear the accidents and you hear
it just come effortlessly, it's just like why you even
fight it anymore?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
You know?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I think one of my favorite tricks on that album
was played with coiler rat and like, just because it
exudes confidence, I think, And how do you channel that confidence?
Like did it start like growing up or did you
like as an adult, were you like okay, now I
have to come?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Made you feel away? Jack? What made you feel away?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Because I feel like, like you said, you love to
empower women, and I think empowering women is making them
feel that they can't talk like you know, sexually, they
can be you know, rugged, they can be like that.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
And I feel like you definitely exude that for sure,
because that was instilled in me by my parents. No,
my auntie and my mom. They're both strong women and
they impored me, and it's what makes me who I am. Now,
you know why I can speak so confident and so bosstly,
you know, because my Auntie will keep drilling in my head.
(05:45):
Don't make no man take you for enough. Who don't
do this, don't you know? Like she was always the
dont stone stone stone stones, So it's like it was like, okay,
she definitely. It's like I had a rulebook growing up.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
She instilled real principles and values and self love. That's important,
very important, and a lots of people don't get that,
and so me as the voice, you know, it's also
a part of my job to help to instill that
in other people who are not that fortunate to have
people like my aunt and my mom around around them.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Do you feel like you're paying homage to them in
doing so? My parents like yeah, and just sharing that,
you know, through your musical values.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
My Auntie looks at me now and she's so happy
with how I turned out to be, and that's the
best feeling, you know, Like, even though I'm in this industry,
she still knows that I make decisions based on how
I feel and the authenticity and and not just chasing
after cloud or money.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
That's right, that's right. Can fans call you Auntie?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Is that Okay, no, sir, let me just say I'm
under thirty. I'm a young child. Baby.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
But you know that's.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
How is it being a working moment?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It's getting harder now, I must admit, because you know,
he's growing up and he's becoming his own individual with
his own thoughts. So you have to be mindful of
you know, the times that I leave now and how
long i'm leaving for. You know, the things that I
might say on stage. You know, I have to be
very careful now. But the good thing is he still
supports me. You know, he loves me. He shows me
endless love, so he doesn't make it too hard. He
(07:27):
still supports me. Child's love is different, Oh it is.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
That's true love.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
It's my favorite.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I want to have like four more.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Wants a few, baby Mama.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
I used to think that for whatever reason in my
head as mature.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
You know, it's not it's not healthy. Yeah, no, imagine
one over here, one over there.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, it's not healthy.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
We were convinced for a second he had a kid
in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
That I'm still I still think he does.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
It's something I got kids in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You have friends right where you think to yourself, I
know he is, or he's got kids in another country somewhere,
because the way they are.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
For sure, especially in my industry, Yeah, they actually do.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
You know, what's your what? What's your son's favorite song
of yours?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
He loves Blessed, Oh my God, sadly he loves the
side Chick song. When I hear him thinking that right out, Yeah,
he loves a lot of my songs. He loves Stars
from the album Heat and Run is surprisingly not really
his favorite at all. He likes to Die for You. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I was gonna say, don't let him listen to die
for you, I know, but he's listening to die for you.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
The thing is with my child, like I try not
to keep everything from him too much because that's how
I was raised. And actually, I feel like when you
hide stuff from the kids, that's when they sneak around
and they do it. When you let them know and
you teach them that it's wrong and what's right, like
they're more of a stand up person because that's how
I was. You know, absolutely, I know a lot of
(09:15):
people who their parents thought they were saints and they
broke their little virginity from.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Like, oh God, then they found out.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Me I was in a long time and I was
exposed to you know.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, strict parents make the sneakiest kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
my auntie was strict, but not when it came on
to sex. Like she used to teach me about that
from a young age.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Did she use like certain words to protect you or
was it just no?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
She was very respectful about it. She like, let me
know what a virgin is, you know from the early
on times, you know so, but she would let me
know that. You know, You're like, I don't want to
know about this, like yet.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
No.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I was a very freaking girl of a success. She
didn't hide anything from me at all. But she never
really over exposed me either, if right, she was just
being like a great parent.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Oh that's great, that's great, congratulations on work me out.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Crazy sounds great. I like tap out as well. I
love tap tap Out is crazy red Flag with Anita.
I love that sound. I think both both sounds meshed
very well.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, you know, that was my first time collabing with
her as well. I love because we have everyone who
is on my album, we actually have a relationship.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Me and Anita were cool. We partied together, me and Cooy,
Me and whisked work together before. Masaca is like one
of my closest friends in the industry. So yeah, I
think they were the right people to choose for the album.
You know, it was authentic, well done.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Why close out the album with the single.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Because it was not supposed to be there, I'm being honest.
He fought for it, yes, because when I turned in
the album, I was like, there's just something missing, man,
It's still something missing from you. Yeah, it needs another element,
it needs something else. You know, hit and rounds already
(11:19):
out and it hit, but I still needed another factor
on the album for people to be like, wow, let
me go listen to this, you know, just by the
name alone. And so I did the song and I said,
you know what, it's cool. Let me send it to
a Whiz because I did a song with him before,
and I feel like I don't have any authentic you know,
Afrobea's artists on the project either. You know, we did
(11:41):
some Afrobets vibe, but we didn't have an artist. And
because I worked him before, I sent him the track
and he actually loved it and he did it like less.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Than three nahow that's how you know though, right.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yes, the vibe was real, and then we met on
sets for the first time and it was like, yeah,
humans with myself in so many.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Ways, chemistry is there.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It is there. It shows very cool person.
Speaker 8 (12:02):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Congratulations, that's crazy. Yo. What's something that you cook that
no one can see you at? Like, no one's better
than you?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Lord everything. I haven't tried the steaks yet, and the ribs,
I haven't tried that yet. Yeah, I haven't tried it.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
All right, Well, there's a ribs place down the street.
Don't try that.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I would say, fish, fish, steamfish.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
What kind of fish, steamfish, steamfish?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Would crow you know things buck strong? They can get
like to him, baby, Mama's.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Get some fish. Man. We got to go to Whole Foods. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Actually fish steam fish. Yeah, that's one of my specialties.
And curry chicken.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
That is the cooking pass down.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yes, my mom was actually the chef of the family,
and everybody in my family can cook, the males, every
female son right now, he's cooking, yes, right, and he
loves it. Man, my auntie, I don't cook at home
like she does. All she does it and I'm so happy.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Yeah, and respectfully you have to let her do that right, respectfully,
I'd be like, you gotta do it because you got
the hands. So I just need there coming home from work,
feed up and like my home is very homey I
have everything I need there, fed, I get love, I
get yeah great, That's.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
How I said.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And then you're in the studio and you're chefing up music.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Too, yep, right, which makes it easier.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, I think so right. I think you you you
almost combine the two because there's ingredients in music as
well as far as features and certain sounds and mixes.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
And I always say melodies is like flavors and music,
you know, so two. And I feel like so many
artists like we're so in touch with food and music.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
I always say, I.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
Said, like music is like food. Right when it's authentic
and real, people are going to consume that, you know, wait.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
For it and they'll come back.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
You don't need that fancy marshing, no gourmet.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
If it's authentic and it's good, they'll fucking consume it.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's true.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
I've always said that it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
It's so weird too, because I don't consume like real
food from like out of ports. You know so right,
if I feel like for some doubles, you will never
see me eat doubles outside of Trinidad.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Mm hmm. Ever, why is that?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Because I probably it's better to get it from where
it's actually originated. You know, Jork chicken. Nobody can give
you JR Chicken in La Nah. You crazy?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I heard there's some fire.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Wait till I go back to Ja.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Flight. I've never been in Jamaica.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Well, from here, I'm like hours five to six hours
from here to Miami and then like a two hour
flight from Miami to Jamaica. Two hours man, yeah yeah,
and three hours from New York.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
You plan on linking up a Vibes cartel.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
He's home, let's see.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I like to have the people waiting for surprises.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
That's right, Okay, something in the works.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
What would you say is the best fruit that's homegrown
in Jamaica?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
M Oh my god. I love fruits. I love guns, mango,
stark fruits.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
My favorite mango is East India mango. I would eat
one of that every day and it makes me so
fat in all the right places. East Indian mango, Indian mango.
I love that mango. I Lovelichi too or Lichi is different. Yeah,
it's more softer, it's more fleshy, sweeter, and people really
kill for that.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
WHAT'SI I know you spelled it like l y c
h E.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, what is it?
Speaker 6 (15:38):
What does it look like? It's a fruit?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, it's like pink. It's like pink on the outside
and white in the middle. And you suck on the sea.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Easy now, easy take it.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Wanted to know, he asked the question. But I Lovelichi,
I love like she too.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, chero like cheryld there he is. When you're in
the studio and you're creating, right, do you need to
be isolated? Does there need to be people around?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I don't like a lot of people in my sessions.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I hate a lot of talking in my sessions. I'm
not one of those artists that, you know, I have
to have a big ball and chat and put up strippers.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
To the to the studio now blunts and strippers.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
No, yeah, no, I know. I like to be in
my elements. I like to think through, like to work
with producers who can also give ideas. You know, mostly
three four people in my room.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Wow, it's very tight circle. Yeah, it's Okay, are you sick?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
No, I just feel a little bit grow up in this.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
That happened, Jorge, the fact.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
That's real, that's real, real, You're.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Going too far. Some things are to be kept secret.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Is that a new tattoo? It is?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
It is? Is that? How long I haven't been to?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
How long it's been?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Because you are the third person that asked me about
my tattoo.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, I don't think we saw that the last time.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
What does it mean?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Okay, that's cool too.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I love dragons. I love dragons, and it has been
my logo ever since I came into the game. I
think it represents strength as well. And I love tribal looks.
I love tribal tattoos. I don't know if it's the
East Indian in me, but yeah, it's Asian and East Indian.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You plan on going higher? The whole arm is gonna
get done. What do you think?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I don't think so. No. I like soe tattoos, sexy tattoos.
You know I can still look good in a wedding dress.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Okay, So, no tattoo on your nackall something small on
your face. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
When I join a gang, I'll be sure to let
you know.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
You are in LA. You can get put on by
like four pm.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
I tell you, do you think dragons are actually real?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Over real?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I wish they were real. I mean I read in
the Bible that they are real, and they're coming up
under this out of the sea in the second coming.
So I have no doubts.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I do believe in giants. We had dinosaurs, a couple,
you know, mystical creatures.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I don't believe their Halloween is coming up.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Ghosts. I do believe in ghosts. I believe in evil spirits,
which we call goes and duppy for Jemmy A Kuhann
for Jemmy Kuhn.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Duppy, duppy U P p y Yeah, duppy, duppy.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Duppy Yeah, I like to learn duppy.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I do believe in ghosts.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah. So besides worked me out right, you fought to
get the song on the project. It's the last song
on the project, right. Was there another song that was
tough for you in that process for this project?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I would say Stars, Yeah, that won't really touch home.
It was scoring by Sam Smith and it felt so
real to me because it's like, don't go chasing stars
like leave them where they are, like, you will get there,
don't rush the process. And to me, I was really
feel like I was rushing the process, you know, like
(19:06):
I want it now, I have to have it now.
As a liber I don't know if that's a trait,
but is it a thing? Maybe maybe another liber in
the room we ask her, is it a liver thing?
I think when we want something, we want it now.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Yeah, that's definitely, but I want it.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I'm gonna get it, yeah for sure, exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, yeah, no, you don't rush.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, sometimes I don't rush, but I feel like I
was rushing. You know.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, that is music, right since you record a lot
of it, you're very proud of it, you have it there,
and then it starts to look like just a pile
of music and you're like, yo, why am I sitting
on this? This needs to get out right.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Mmm. I don't rush to put up music because it
has to be the right time and has the for me.
I think that artists were in touch with the environments,
like we can when the time is to be setting
a new trend, when the time is to be wearing jeans,
you know, like we just know, we just know what
the people would want. I think we just I don't know.
(20:10):
I don't know how to explain it. Other artists will
know what I'm talking about. Yeah, it's a feeling like
we just know it's not a time for this or
it's the time for that, so I don't rush to
put out music.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
You mentioned that earlier, that everyone on the album you
have a friendship or a relationship with, And is that
like a I guess the standard that you have when
it comes to making music with other artists.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Before I didn't know any better. I would just be like, okay,
we collab in. You guys put me this big name.
I cool, just dope, it's a big name. But then
I realized that that don't do nothing at all for
you as the smaller artist. That doesn't do anything for you,
you know, because if the song is not good, it's
just not good, right, It doesn't matter who you put
on there. It doesn't matter how much money you paid.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I was gonna say, does it matter how much money
you put behind it? If it's a wax song.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Now, if the label's gonnae a ton of money, yes,
it's gonna work. Because people we've heard, we've heard like
songs that it's like, what is this? But you start
singing it because of how much you've heard this song.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Here we play songs that are like what is this? Real?
Shit about it? Far from you?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You know?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
You know what I'm talking about, you know. But I
think that at the end of the day, even if
you don't a ton of money, yes, it will go somewhere,
but it will never last because it's just not sticking.
It's just being forced on.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
You want music that people are gonna be like, oh,
this is my song still ten years later. There has
to be authentic.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
I also think like, in a way, if you're trying
to go for the big features, off for it, you're
rushing one the process and too, like how do you
surpass big features like that early in your career?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I'm like, I'll wait
for the Rihanna collab. Let me, let me, let me
learn a thing or two before I step into you know,
Yeah exactly. I'm very patient when it comes on to features.
I'm not rushing to collabor with anyone. That's one thing
for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Okay, yeah, would be crazy, it would be crazy, holy ship,
that would be crazy.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Visionary it's happened. Yeah, let's happen.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Let's do it, Let's do it. Yeah, let's get let's
get here next year. Okay, we have some time. Do
you take family with you on tour? And I do travel.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Listen, as soon as my son gets a break, he's like,
I'm coming. That's right, he's coming. He comes everywhere as
long as he's not in school.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, it's all good.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
He loves to travel, he loves to be around me,
he loves to see what I'm doing, he loves the starlight,
he loves to hop on stage. It's not shy. It's
all very outspoken, very very confident. So yeah, and it's
an experience too. You know, I will be there working,
and as long as I see my family enjoying the amenities,
and they're like doing the beach and in the food
free of course, like that makes me happy as when
(23:03):
I'm working.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Okay, okay, Yeah. Was there a lyric or line in
in this album where you thought to yourself, we may
maybe second guessed it, maybe thought to yourself. I don't
know if I should say this.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yes, die for you the entire song. Yeah, I know,
I said to Russian, like Russian me die for somebody
or Roger. I said, no, let's let's swap.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
It like this.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I'm yearning for the d Okay, I'm not going to
die for it, you know. And that's what I was like, Yeah,
we gotta make it come off like that. But I
think in the end people actually still thought I was
saying like I'll die for.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I don't know you said it in the song.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
No, A lot of people don't read into it. But
that's not what I'm saying. But it's easy to be
perceived like that.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, that's all right. You know, you know your truth,
you know what it is.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
And it's a nice song too.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
It's a very nice song.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I like the vibe be sexty, that's right, and that's
very important.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah it is, I think, right, Yeah, you gotta feel good.
You gotta feel like a lot of people walking around,
including myself, it just don't feel good. You know.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
It's one of my favorites from the project for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, good for you. It's amazing. It never gets laid here,
so the party is just NonStop?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Is that home Lost music? I feel like all the
records on the album you can still play like when
I'm five years more into my career and be like, Okay,
I'm still rocking to this. That's right because some of
the songs on there, we've done them like two years before.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, you've been hanging on to it.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah yeah, I realized until I realized, like, why was
I holding on to for so long? Should have been dropped?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
That's right. You know, me and Letcher are working on
a song, and by that I mean we haven't done anything,
but it's the idea behind it is a gender reveal song,
my gender review song, which is timeless. It is timeless.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
It's like a happy birthday song.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
You know, he's gonna every year, you know, based on
what he want to do with his life.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Making an answer That means that was crazy. It was
his idea.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, yeah, he got no ideas though.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Just think about it.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Okay, the happy birthday song.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Time it is time. It is gender reveal song.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
That's be kind of crazy, right, kind of party. What
Jeremiah said? Jeremi said, whose is it? He's a line
in the song should be Who's is?
Speaker 6 (25:32):
There's I think there's something there. Yeah, it's something worth exploring.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It is you want to collab, Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Let's go. Hey, I'm in this year too. Man, look
at me.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
I got some ideas that maybe at one point I
can show you. Shout out Russian though.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
He's a super dope producer.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah he is, he is.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
He is sure never gets late here, shinceia. We appreciate
the time always in the music. Yeah, shout out the
fuse for that crazy intro as well.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
This is Lama Lama red for John. We have a
lot of artists come through. Read it on beat. You
think you could do it, let's try give it a shot.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I don't even know this book.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
You wanna.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
I think I saw Glorilla's but what.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, Gloria killed.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
We're gonna put it one of your beats and you
just actually wrapped to it, sing to it. Work me out?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yes, do I get a yes?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Let me see how many pages?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
No, No, you don't have to do the whole book?
Oh yeah, people do three, four pages, six seven, eight pages.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
But in Dragon would do the whole book.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I'm just saying, oh my.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
God, who's who's doing the whole book?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Like we forgot to tell them they didn't have to
do the whole book?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Was yeah, yea, this book is.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Think you need to see any examples.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I saw something.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, we need headphones though, we need, but not come
here talking about ship. Listen, you don't have to do
one straight shots. We don't have to do one straight shot.
You can stop, you get it's all in the editing, right,
oh Lord, making Jamaic it as fun, some l a ship,
(27:20):
make it Jamaican as fun, homie.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Okay, I'm doing a test run.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yo, I shouldn't see it. Yeah, check you brought out
left the gun play last night in l A.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
He was on stage, not on my step. Maybe he was,
Oh so he was. Okay, Yeah I was late. I
didn't even see.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
You're never lated to a concert, that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Because I had a war of manfunction. Let's be clear
of my control.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Din't want to don't want to stop.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
But I got there like like what ten oh three?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah? Yeah, like you had to hit the stage just
the second you guys as soon as I that's right?
All right again? You know?
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Oh yeah, say one jam your gun style.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, cruise show Lama Lama, l a. I see lo
my Lama.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Red Pajama reads a story with his mama.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Mama gets his baby here, Mama Lama go down tears
Lama Lama red pajama.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
He's alone. We don't you mama. Mama Lama wants a drink.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Mama's that donkey cheesy A Lama red pajama CODs don't
ya A Lama Mama says it Choosi up too, Mama Lama.
Mama's a lama res pajama resting for his mama.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Mama, you don't yet, Mama.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Lamaterd Lama Lama red pajama with spsavely for is Mama
Malama starts the morn, Ma Malama, here's the one Sam.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Lama red pajama listens quiet for is Mama?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
What is Mama Lama doing?
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Baby Lama starts booth booing.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Take so excuse me, so sh see a cruise show
real nitty two or three.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I'll try to sit on some clothes.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
You know
Speaker 2 (29:33):
You, Jamaica
MIGGI, I hit on on MIGGI, I.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
He's on.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Jump be headline.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
When you had that gassline, jump belly playing, when you
hit that assline, don't be awadsline, when.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
You hit up.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Dad that that can love me? You're right? Ah yeah
dad here that I can last on. Let me tell
you that want to get done looking the mirror, say yes,
I'm the best best best, best, best best best, Wait
for the best best best.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Just one night's over, rug me, burk me up, get
exasize and burn me up.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Sleep big boy bus turned me up and turned me up.
Just one night.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Word.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Since he is back on the cruise show, let's get it,
let's go, let's go. Shout the DJ Fuse for that intro.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Thank you DJ Fuse for sure mixed. You should have
been at the show.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah that for real. Now got to open up you
know sure pause? Absolutely yeah, yea, I said open up.
I don't know. I don't know. Since he is here
back on the cruise, so good to have you back.
Thank you very much for your time and energy and
the music. We appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Thank you for having me again.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Absolutely, you look great. You look happy.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I am happy. You look I'm extremely happy, happy for you.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It took smiles.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, I was stressed to you're so sure, But this
year I've been so happy, extremely happy.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Did we learn to shake things off, let things go
and we're not in control of maybe and.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
What we can be in control off we take control
and cut it off?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You know? So that's what I've been doing mostly, Like
if the energy is better on me, I'm just like, yeah,
you gotta go.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Was there a certain like turning point for you at
that like that you start thinking that way?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yes, I found myself I think early December, just sitting
on the couch like in total depression for like days,
and my son would watch me doing that and my
auntie and my people, and I just like I was like,
what is this? This is not even me, you know, like,
what the hell is happening? What am I doing? I
need to get it together? And that's when I decided
to be like, you know what sacrifices just have to
(02:23):
be made now?
Speaker 6 (02:24):
Absolutely did say cut off with a lot of conviction.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So what or who did you cut off?
Speaker 6 (02:30):
And what was that process like after detaching yourself from then?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Was it Americans that got you into the.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Plast it's so dark here, sorry to say, Oh my god.
It's like so much sensitivity, so much fakeness, so much
you know, it's everywhere. But I feel like just me
being a new space, like it came with a lot,
you know, and just dealing with new people. It's like
you don't know if you should let them go or
(02:56):
you should give them some chances. So yeah, it was
just more about me staying authentic to myself again and
not like listen to anybody and just follow my core,
you know how I really feel. Yeah, and anyone who
wasn't aligned with that just yeah, had to say.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Sometimes you're like, I don't even give family this many chances, Like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I don't because at the end of the day, I
am in love with my craft and my business. It's
my purpose, you know. So I do try to give
chances to get stuff right, but you know, sometimes it
just doesn't work out.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
I'm glad you say authenticity because I do feel like
when you're authentic to yourself, that's what you really that's
when you attract what's really.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Meant for you, and that's when you're flying.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
When you're pretending to be something that you're attracting ship.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
But it's so weird though, because I feel like you
never really know when you're pretending to be something you're not.
Probably you're telling yourself that, let me try this and
see if it can be me, as in like it's
the growth period, you know, let me see if this
is my evolution. You don't know if oh, you're faking
it until after a while you're like, this is not
making me happy. Then you know, you know when you
(04:02):
do it sometimes.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Because I think you're trying, you're trying to see if
this is where I'm going or this is where I'm at,
and this is the vibe, and then you realize this isn't.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Me and this is not what everybody figures it out.
Getting a job, you know you don't like it because
you've done it for so long, until you go start
your own business.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
We're all walking around this planet trying to just figure
it out as parents, as friends, as sisters and brothers
and performers. Right, never gets lid here. Congratulations, that's out everywhere,
crazy crazy project, big vibes on there. Yeah, you're talking
that shit as you should though, Right, that's that's where
you that's what that confidence is, right, or that's what
(04:38):
that confidence sounds like, that's me, that's you.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, I'm a very confident person.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I love to empower women. I love to give attitude
and energy and emotions in my tracks. So as I said,
you know when you hear the accidents and you hear
it just come effortlessly, it's just like why you even
fight it anymore?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
You know?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I think one of my favorite tricks on that album
was played with coiler rat and like, just because it
exudes confidence, I think, And how do you channel that confidence?
Like did it start like growing up or did you
like as an adult, were you like okay, now I
have to come?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Made you feel away? Jack? What made you feel away?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Because I feel like, like you said, you love to
empower women, and I think empowering women is making them
feel that they can't talk like you know, sexually, they
can be you know, rugged, they can be like that.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
And I feel like you definitely exude that for sure,
because that was instilled in me by my parents. No,
my auntie and my mom. They're both strong women and
they impored me, and it's what makes me who I am. Now,
you know why I can speak so confident and so bosstly,
you know, because my Auntie will keep drilling in my head.
(05:45):
Don't make no man take you for enough. Who don't
do this, don't you know? Like she was always the
dont stone stone stone stones, So it's like it was like, okay,
she definitely. It's like I had a rulebook growing up.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
She instilled real principles and values and self love. That's important,
very important, and a lots of people don't get that,
and so me as the voice, you know, it's also
a part of my job to help to instill that
in other people who are not that fortunate to have
people like my aunt and my mom around around them.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Do you feel like you're paying homage to them in
doing so? My parents like yeah, and just sharing that,
you know, through your musical values.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
My Auntie looks at me now and she's so happy
with how I turned out to be, and that's the
best feeling, you know, Like, even though I'm in this industry,
she still knows that I make decisions based on how
I feel and the authenticity and and not just chasing
after cloud or money.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
That's right, that's right. Can fans call you Auntie?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Is that Okay, no, sir, let me just say I'm
under thirty. I'm a young child. Baby.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
But you know that's.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
How is it being a working moment?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It's getting harder now, I must admit, because you know,
he's growing up and he's becoming his own individual with
his own thoughts. So you have to be mindful of
you know, the times that I leave now and how
long i'm leaving for. You know, the things that I
might say on stage. You know, I have to be
very careful now. But the good thing is he still
supports me. You know, he loves me. He shows me
endless love, so he doesn't make it too hard. He
(07:27):
still supports me. Child's love is different, Oh it is.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
That's true love.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
It's my favorite.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I want to have like four more.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Wants a few, baby Mama.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
I used to think that for whatever reason in my
head as mature.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
You know, it's not it's not healthy. Yeah, no, imagine
one over here, one over there.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, it's not healthy.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
We were convinced for a second he had a kid
in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
That I'm still I still think he does.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
It's something I got kids in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You have friends right where you think to yourself, I
know he is, or he's got kids in another country somewhere,
because the way they are.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
For sure, especially in my industry, Yeah, they actually do.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
You know, what's your what? What's your son's favorite song
of yours?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
He loves Blessed, Oh my God, sadly he loves the
side Chick song. When I hear him thinking that right out, Yeah,
he loves a lot of my songs. He loves Stars
from the album Heat and Run is surprisingly not really
his favorite at all. He likes to Die for You. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I was gonna say, don't let him listen to die
for you, I know, but he's listening to die for you.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
The thing is with my child, like I try not
to keep everything from him too much because that's how
I was raised. And actually, I feel like when you
hide stuff from the kids, that's when they sneak around
and they do it. When you let them know and
you teach them that it's wrong and what's right, like
they're more of a stand up person because that's how
I was. You know, absolutely, I know a lot of
(09:15):
people who their parents thought they were saints and they
broke their little virginity from.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Like, oh God, then they found out.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Me I was in a long time and I was
exposed to you know.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, strict parents make the sneakiest kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
my auntie was strict, but not when it came on
to sex. Like she used to teach me about that
from a young age.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Did she use like certain words to protect you or
was it just no?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
She was very respectful about it. She like, let me
know what a virgin is, you know from the early
on times, you know so, but she would let me
know that. You know, You're like, I don't want to
know about this, like yet.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
No.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I was a very freaking girl of a success. She
didn't hide anything from me at all. But she never
really over exposed me either, if right, she was just
being like a great parent.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Oh that's great, that's great, congratulations on work me out.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Crazy sounds great. I like tap out as well. I
love tap tap Out is crazy red Flag with Anita.
I love that sound. I think both both sounds meshed
very well.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, you know, that was my first time collabing with
her as well. I love because we have everyone who
is on my album, we actually have a relationship.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Me and Anita were cool. We partied together, me and Cooy,
Me and whisked work together before. Masaca is like one
of my closest friends in the industry. So yeah, I
think they were the right people to choose for the album.
You know, it was authentic, well done.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Why close out the album with the single.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Because it was not supposed to be there, I'm being honest.
He fought for it, yes, because when I turned in
the album, I was like, there's just something missing, man,
It's still something missing from you. Yeah, it needs another element,
it needs something else. You know, hit and rounds already
(11:19):
out and it hit, but I still needed another factor
on the album for people to be like, wow, let
me go listen to this, you know, just by the
name alone. And so I did the song and I said,
you know what, it's cool. Let me send it to
a Whiz because I did a song with him before,
and I feel like I don't have any authentic you know,
Afrobea's artists on the project either. You know, we did
(11:41):
some Afrobets vibe, but we didn't have an artist. And
because I worked him before, I sent him the track
and he actually loved it and he did it like less.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Than three nahow that's how you know though, right.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yes, the vibe was real, and then we met on
sets for the first time and it was like, yeah,
humans with myself in so many.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Ways, chemistry is there.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It is there. It shows very cool person.
Speaker 8 (12:02):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Congratulations, that's crazy. Yo. What's something that you cook that
no one can see you at? Like, no one's better
than you?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Lord everything. I haven't tried the steaks yet, and the ribs,
I haven't tried that yet. Yeah, I haven't tried it.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
All right, Well, there's a ribs place down the street.
Don't try that.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I would say, fish, fish, steamfish.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
What kind of fish, steamfish, steamfish?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Would crow you know things buck strong? They can get
like to him, baby, Mama's.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Get some fish. Man. We got to go to Whole Foods. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Actually fish steam fish. Yeah, that's one of my specialties.
And curry chicken.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
That is the cooking pass down.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yes, my mom was actually the chef of the family,
and everybody in my family can cook, the males, every
female son right now, he's cooking, yes, right, and he
loves it. Man, my auntie, I don't cook at home
like she does. All she does it and I'm so happy.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Yeah, and respectfully you have to let her do that right, respectfully,
I'd be like, you gotta do it because you got
the hands. So I just need there coming home from work,
feed up and like my home is very homey I
have everything I need there, fed, I get love, I
get yeah great, That's.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
How I said.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And then you're in the studio and you're chefing up music.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Too, yep, right, which makes it easier.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, I think so right. I think you you you
almost combine the two because there's ingredients in music as
well as far as features and certain sounds and mixes.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
And I always say melodies is like flavors and music,
you know, so two. And I feel like so many
artists like we're so in touch with food and music.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
I always say, I.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
Said, like music is like food. Right when it's authentic
and real, people are going to consume that, you know, wait.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
For it and they'll come back.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
You don't need that fancy marshing, no gourmet.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
If it's authentic and it's good, they'll fucking consume it.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's true.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
I've always said that it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
It's so weird too, because I don't consume like real
food from like out of ports. You know so right,
if I feel like for some doubles, you will never
see me eat doubles outside of Trinidad.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Mm hmm. Ever, why is that?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Because I probably it's better to get it from where
it's actually originated. You know, Jork chicken. Nobody can give
you JR Chicken in La Nah. You crazy?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I heard there's some fire.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Wait till I go back to Ja.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Flight. I've never been in Jamaica.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Well, from here, I'm like hours five to six hours
from here to Miami and then like a two hour
flight from Miami to Jamaica. Two hours man, yeah yeah,
and three hours from New York.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
You plan on linking up a Vibes cartel.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
He's home, let's see.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I like to have the people waiting for surprises.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
That's right, Okay, something in the works.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
What would you say is the best fruit that's homegrown
in Jamaica?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
M Oh my god. I love fruits. I love guns, mango,
stark fruits.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
My favorite mango is East India mango. I would eat
one of that every day and it makes me so
fat in all the right places. East Indian mango, Indian mango.
I love that mango. I Lovelichi too or Lichi is different. Yeah,
it's more softer, it's more fleshy, sweeter, and people really
kill for that.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
WHAT'SI I know you spelled it like l y c
h E.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, what is it?
Speaker 6 (15:38):
What does it look like? It's a fruit?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, it's like pink. It's like pink on the outside
and white in the middle. And you suck on the sea.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Easy now, easy take it.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Wanted to know, he asked the question. But I Lovelichi,
I love like she too.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, chero like cheryld there he is. When you're in
the studio and you're creating, right, do you need to
be isolated? Does there need to be people around?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I don't like a lot of people in my sessions.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I hate a lot of talking in my sessions. I'm
not one of those artists that, you know, I have
to have a big ball and chat and put up strippers.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
To the to the studio now blunts and strippers.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
No, yeah, no, I know. I like to be in
my elements. I like to think through, like to work
with producers who can also give ideas. You know, mostly
three four people in my room.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Wow, it's very tight circle. Yeah, it's Okay, are you sick?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
No, I just feel a little bit grow up in this.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
That happened, Jorge, the fact.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
That's real, that's real, real, You're.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Going too far. Some things are to be kept secret.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Is that a new tattoo? It is?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
It is? Is that? How long I haven't been to?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
How long it's been?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Because you are the third person that asked me about
my tattoo.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, I don't think we saw that the last time.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
What does it mean?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Okay, that's cool too.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I love dragons. I love dragons, and it has been
my logo ever since I came into the game. I
think it represents strength as well. And I love tribal looks.
I love tribal tattoos. I don't know if it's the
East Indian in me, but yeah, it's Asian and East Indian.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You plan on going higher? The whole arm is gonna
get done. What do you think?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I don't think so. No. I like soe tattoos, sexy tattoos.
You know I can still look good in a wedding dress.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Okay, So, no tattoo on your nackall something small on
your face. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
When I join a gang, I'll be sure to let
you know.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
You are in LA. You can get put on by
like four pm.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
I tell you, do you think dragons are actually real?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Over real?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I wish they were real. I mean I read in
the Bible that they are real, and they're coming up
under this out of the sea in the second coming.
So I have no doubts.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I do believe in giants. We had dinosaurs, a couple,
you know, mystical creatures.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I don't believe their Halloween is coming up.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Ghosts. I do believe in ghosts. I believe in evil spirits,
which we call goes and duppy for Jemmy A Kuhann
for Jemmy Kuhn.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Duppy, duppy U P p y Yeah, duppy, duppy.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Duppy Yeah, I like to learn duppy.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I do believe in ghosts.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah. So besides worked me out right, you fought to
get the song on the project. It's the last song
on the project, right. Was there another song that was
tough for you in that process for this project?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I would say Stars, Yeah, that won't really touch home.
It was scoring by Sam Smith and it felt so
real to me because it's like, don't go chasing stars
like leave them where they are, like, you will get there,
don't rush the process. And to me, I was really
feel like I was rushing the process, you know, like
(19:06):
I want it now, I have to have it now.
As a liber I don't know if that's a trait,
but is it a thing? Maybe maybe another liber in
the room we ask her, is it a liver thing?
I think when we want something, we want it now.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Yeah, that's definitely, but I want it.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I'm gonna get it, yeah for sure, exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, yeah, no, you don't rush.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, sometimes I don't rush, but I feel like I
was rushing. You know.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, that is music, right since you record a lot
of it, you're very proud of it, you have it there,
and then it starts to look like just a pile
of music and you're like, yo, why am I sitting
on this? This needs to get out right.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Mmm. I don't rush to put up music because it
has to be the right time and has the for me.
I think that artists were in touch with the environments,
like we can when the time is to be setting
a new trend, when the time is to be wearing jeans,
you know, like we just know, we just know what
the people would want. I think we just I don't know.
(20:10):
I don't know how to explain it. Other artists will
know what I'm talking about. Yeah, it's a feeling like
we just know it's not a time for this or
it's the time for that, so I don't rush to
put out music.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
You mentioned that earlier, that everyone on the album you
have a friendship or a relationship with, And is that
like a I guess the standard that you have when
it comes to making music with other artists.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Before I didn't know any better. I would just be like, okay,
we collab in. You guys put me this big name.
I cool, just dope, it's a big name. But then
I realized that that don't do nothing at all for
you as the smaller artist. That doesn't do anything for you,
you know, because if the song is not good, it's
just not good, right, It doesn't matter who you put
on there. It doesn't matter how much money you paid.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I was gonna say, does it matter how much money
you put behind it? If it's a wax song.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Now, if the label's gonnae a ton of money, yes,
it's gonna work. Because people we've heard, we've heard like
songs that it's like, what is this? But you start
singing it because of how much you've heard this song.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Here we play songs that are like what is this? Real?
Shit about it? Far from you?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You know?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
You know what I'm talking about, you know. But I
think that at the end of the day, even if
you don't a ton of money, yes, it will go somewhere,
but it will never last because it's just not sticking.
It's just being forced on.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
You want music that people are gonna be like, oh,
this is my song still ten years later. There has
to be authentic.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
I also think like, in a way, if you're trying
to go for the big features, off for it, you're
rushing one the process and too, like how do you
surpass big features like that early in your career?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I'm like, I'll wait
for the Rihanna collab. Let me, let me, let me
learn a thing or two before I step into you know,
Yeah exactly. I'm very patient when it comes on to features.
I'm not rushing to collabor with anyone. That's one thing
for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Okay, yeah, would be crazy, it would be crazy, holy ship,
that would be crazy.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Visionary it's happened. Yeah, let's happen.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Let's do it, Let's do it. Yeah, let's get let's
get here next year. Okay, we have some time. Do
you take family with you on tour? And I do travel.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Listen, as soon as my son gets a break, he's like,
I'm coming. That's right, he's coming. He comes everywhere as
long as he's not in school.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, it's all good.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
He loves to travel, he loves to be around me,
he loves to see what I'm doing, he loves the starlight,
he loves to hop on stage. It's not shy. It's
all very outspoken, very very confident. So yeah, and it's
an experience too. You know, I will be there working,
and as long as I see my family enjoying the amenities,
and they're like doing the beach and in the food
free of course, like that makes me happy as when
(23:03):
I'm working.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Okay, okay, Yeah. Was there a lyric or line in
in this album where you thought to yourself, we may
maybe second guessed it, maybe thought to yourself. I don't
know if I should say this.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yes, die for you the entire song. Yeah, I know,
I said to Russian, like Russian me die for somebody
or Roger. I said, no, let's let's swap.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
It like this.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I'm yearning for the d Okay, I'm not going to
die for it, you know. And that's what I was like, Yeah,
we gotta make it come off like that. But I
think in the end people actually still thought I was
saying like I'll die for.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I don't know you said it in the song.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
No, A lot of people don't read into it. But
that's not what I'm saying. But it's easy to be
perceived like that.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, that's all right. You know, you know your truth,
you know what it is.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
And it's a nice song too.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
It's a very nice song.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I like the vibe be sexty, that's right, and that's
very important.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah it is, I think, right, Yeah, you gotta feel good.
You gotta feel like a lot of people walking around,
including myself, it just don't feel good. You know.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
It's one of my favorites from the project for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, good for you. It's amazing. It never gets laid here,
so the party is just NonStop?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Is that home Lost music? I feel like all the
records on the album you can still play like when
I'm five years more into my career and be like, Okay,
I'm still rocking to this. That's right because some of
the songs on there, we've done them like two years before.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, you've been hanging on to it.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah yeah, I realized until I realized, like, why was
I holding on to for so long? Should have been dropped?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
That's right. You know, me and Letcher are working on
a song, and by that I mean we haven't done anything,
but it's the idea behind it is a gender reveal song,
my gender review song, which is timeless. It is timeless.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
It's like a happy birthday song.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
You know, he's gonna every year, you know, based on
what he want to do with his life.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Making an answer That means that was crazy. It was
his idea.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, yeah, he got no ideas though.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Just think about it.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Okay, the happy birthday song.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Time it is time. It is gender reveal song.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
That's be kind of crazy, right, kind of party. What
Jeremiah said? Jeremi said, whose is it? He's a line
in the song should be Who's is?
Speaker 6 (25:32):
There's I think there's something there. Yeah, it's something worth exploring.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It is you want to collab, Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Let's go. Hey, I'm in this year too. Man, look
at me.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
I got some ideas that maybe at one point I
can show you. Shout out Russian though.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
He's a super dope producer.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah he is, he is.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
He is sure never gets late here, shinceia. We appreciate
the time always in the music. Yeah, shout out the
fuse for that crazy intro as well.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
This is Lama Lama red for John. We have a
lot of artists come through. Read it on beat. You
think you could do it, let's try give it a shot.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I don't even know this book.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
You wanna.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
I think I saw Glorilla's but what.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, Gloria killed.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
We're gonna put it one of your beats and you
just actually wrapped to it, sing to it. Work me out?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yes, do I get a yes?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Let me see how many pages?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
No, No, you don't have to do the whole book?
Oh yeah, people do three, four pages, six seven, eight pages.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
But in Dragon would do the whole book.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I'm just saying, oh my.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
God, who's who's doing the whole book?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Like we forgot to tell them they didn't have to
do the whole book?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Was yeah, yea, this book is.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Think you need to see any examples.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I saw something.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, we need headphones though, we need, but not come
here talking about ship. Listen, you don't have to do
one straight shots. We don't have to do one straight shot.
You can stop, you get it's all in the editing, right,
oh Lord, making Jamaic it as fun, some l a ship,
(27:20):
make it Jamaican as fun, homie.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Okay, I'm doing a test run.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yo, I shouldn't see it. Yeah, check you brought out
left the gun play last night in l A.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
He was on stage, not on my step. Maybe he was,
Oh so he was. Okay, Yeah I was late. I
didn't even see.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
You're never lated to a concert, that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Because I had a war of manfunction. Let's be clear
of my control.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Din't want to don't want to stop.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
But I got there like like what ten oh three?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah? Yeah, like you had to hit the stage just
the second you guys as soon as I that's right?
All right again? You know?
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Oh yeah, say one jam your gun style.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, cruise show Lama Lama, l a. I see lo
my Lama.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Red Pajama reads a story with his mama.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Mama gets his baby here, Mama Lama go down tears
Lama Lama red pajama.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
He's alone. We don't you mama. Mama Lama wants a drink.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Mama's that donkey cheesy A Lama red pajama CODs don't
ya A Lama Mama says it Choosi up too, Mama Lama.
Mama's a lama res pajama resting for his mama.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Mama, you don't yet, Mama.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Lamaterd Lama Lama red pajama with spsavely for is Mama
Malama starts the morn, Ma Malama, here's the one Sam.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Lama red pajama listens quiet for is Mama?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
What is Mama Lama doing?
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Baby Lama starts booth booing.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Take so excuse me, so sh see a cruise show
real nitty two or three.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I'll try to sit on some clothes.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
You know
Speaker 2 (29:33):
You, Jamaica
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