April 22, 2025 • 35 mins
Wiz Khalifa Joins the Cruz Show AGAIN!! During this visit he talked about his new album Kush & OJ 2 - he broke the music on the album, the production, the lyrics and why it took 15 years to release vol 2. Wiz also talked about mushrooms, wealthy people that are in cults, what he invests in and so much more. It's an in depth look at his album and a fun conversation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh my god, is that Nico Blitz so well? We
get you so well, we spoke me. Let's just step
it fun we Okay, Lucie got this up and I
got all this drank boat up.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
A bottle out of his bottles up in this club.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Can't be let all my dogs. But I'm trying to
leave whenever you need me.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Now, whoever you want me, you know you got. I
mean there short thing you'll second. They don't help me.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I should be your best hold me when the day
sturns tonight. I keep thinking about you. Moving from makes
me wondering if you hear this song? Yeah, would you
right the way that we went from? Yes?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Put up and they ask him my feet hurt you
to leave a man?
Speaker 5 (00:42):
A hey, mister pick tell me not because my whole
blitz Stu and boy, what's up?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yellow?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (00:54):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
It is?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Not anything I do?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
God, I go to Yeah. I was screaming that when
I moved up a lot anyway you think that anyway?
Getting up with some time girls and make plans and
(01:18):
he can take it.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Let show you a pantin show you how my lifestyle
the cruise show yo. Whereas Khalifa was back on the
Cruise show Let's get It.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah, man, Yo, a lot of hits yo, that was
a nice intro for show. Shout out to Nico Blinz.
He did that for you man. Yeah you bro, Bro.
Nine hundred hits is crazy, Bro, I had to control.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
That's a crazy set list.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
That's a super Time I'm sorry, super Bowl if time
shi Yeah, yeah for sure. You know where you could
just keep performing in every song. It's just that song, yeh.
That evokes emotion and memories from people. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
That's what I was thinking about.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Like a lot of memories to those, Yeah, a lot
of memories creating music.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Do we remember everything because there's a lot of smoke
also involved.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, I remember everything, that's right. I remember everything. I
remember all those.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
That's right, b yo Yo, So online wiz, Like the
content is crazy, right, Like we're traveling, we're on private planes,
we're putting outfits out, we're feeding Shadow clear Blue pregnancy test.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I love it all.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Yeah, for sure, I stay busy, I stay active. That's
the TikTok on the Instagram. That's you get the good
weed content on.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
This right Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Yeah, you get like jars of trees. You get bong ribs,
you get low riders, Yeah, you get all that.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Yeah, n you know, and like what people may not
remember maybe is like yo, like the Internet early, for
like that's where you got to really show who you were,
Like you told everybody who you were on the Internet.
You and Mac Miller were on that YouTube and Internet early.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Yeah, absolutely. Twitter was really big for me. YouTube really
big for me, just being able to curate my fan
base and like figure out who was really there for
me and who supported me and actually entertained them. And
a lot of my early mixtapes like Flight School and
(03:19):
Cushion Orange Juice Burned after Rolling Cabin Fever, a lot
of that stuff was just really you know, all directed
towards the Internet. And yeah, I made a lot of
you know, my early career, you know, fans and just
expectations of what Wiz Khalifa was. I really got my
(03:41):
identity off of that.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Were you and Mac like, y'all, we're gonna kill this
Internet shit.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
I don't know about about what what Mac thought about
the Internet because he was a little bit younger than me,
but for me, yeah, yeah, for sure. But for me,
it really started, like I didn't have a record deal,
So that was like my only outlet, Like that was
(04:09):
the only way to really get my music out there
and like really have people.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Hear me or know what I was doing.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
So as soon as I figured out like I could
do it for my basement like in my mom's crib,
I just was like, you know, I was nonstops all.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah jeems, I mean, you know for it.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
That's why I love all the streamers because that method
still exists where you can just you know, be consistent
on the Internet and get it cracking and become you know,
a you know, a real taste maker out here.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
You broadcast to the world. Huh from your own ship.
You broadcasting life from your own shit. Absolutely, that's crazy,
right Yeah. KLJ two is out, it's out. We're here, man,
keep streaming it, man, it's crazy. Congratulations the sequel sequel
fifteen years later.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Fifteen years later, and it was like four days away
from like the real fifteen anniversary.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
So why why so long? I mean obviously, right, there's
so much in between. I mean, yo, like just legendary music.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah yeah, I think it just worked out like that.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
I'm in a lot of like really blessed situations that
I'm that I'm grateful for, one being that everybody is
really into the whole nostalgia of the blog era and
like the era that I came up in to the
point where they created this whole narrative where it's like
Wiz bringing the blog era back. He's bringing that feeling
(05:36):
back feels like twenty ten again. So just feeling that
that people embracing that I knew that Cushion Oms used
to would be the most exciting thing that I could
do and the most anticipated thing that I could do,
instead of like trying to come up with some new
concept that would like possibly go over people's heads or
(05:57):
could hit or couldn't hit, I mean they can hit
or miss. I knew that Cushion Orange Juice was something
that people were looking forward to, whether they knew it
or not, and at the minute that I said that
I was doing it, they would be interested. And it
set the bar up to a level for me to,
you know, make sure that I achieve as well. And
(06:18):
also just a combination of like timing too, you know,
we dropped the album around four twenty, so just being
able to own that time and to create those experiences
that surround the original cushion orange juice. That's what's really
the music is all about, is just hanging out, having
a good time, chilling. You might be on vacation, you
(06:39):
might smoke for the first time, like whatever. Those experiences
and memories are allowing them people to attach that to
the music as well.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And yeah, so it was just a combination of things.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
No, man, Taylor gang is all over it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
We got our appearances in easy Wider, Let's go?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, is on there quick? No?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
You got David Marvin Blake on Yeah. Yeah, it's a
different verse.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah for real.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
You know Terris Martin, you got that treatment. Yeah, yeah,
that jat Taylor's crazy thank you, Yes, sir, thank you.
With the horns in it like that, Like, Yo, that's different.
That's a that's a you know, that's a you remember
that sound. Yeah, yeah, definitely very sticky. Hey you know
what I'm saying. But nah, I mean, like yo, like that.
(07:27):
There's songs on there that just make you feel something,
you know what I mean. And it's like it's right
around music. You know, you can work out to it
as well, you live your life.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Yeah, it's super chill and it's current too. It's like
where I'm at in my life right now. It's talking
about the things that are relevant to me. I talk
about like kicking it with my two kids. That's the
perfect evening and just saying stuff that are relevant to
you know, real people in the world who they can
relate to.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Like it's really feel good in party music, but it's
also motivational music.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
There's stuff for the ladies.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
There's stuff to smoke too, and there's stuff that you know,
if you want to elevate, it sounds cool elevating.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Else is very cool is just to see you smile. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
You talk about the love for your mom, your sibling
that you lost. Right, You're being very vulnerable about it,
and you're sharing your experience, yeah, right, and your feelings
on it.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Right. That's got to be a tough song to get done.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Yeah, I mean, but also maybe therapeutic. Yeah, for sure,
definitely therapeutic. And for me, it's something that I like
to do because I like to show all parts of
who I am, like the good stuff and just the
stuff that might not be so easy to talk about
but also makes me who I am, and my relationship
with my.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Mom is really important to me, both of my parents.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
But my mom just moved out here to LA with
me just having a daughter, so I haven't lived in
the same city as her in fifteen years, and you know,
like as an adult, it just feels good. It feels
like fresh and year to have my mom. I'm back
with my mom, I'm back close to my mom. She
right up the street from me. So it's like it's
(09:10):
it's relevant to me, you know, like a lot of
people could just write that song be like, Okay, well
I need a song about my mom on the album,
but like, I'm seeing my mom every day for the
first time in fifteen years, so it's like it's relevant
to me. It means something, right, right, this is now Yeah, yeah,
you're getting a song.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
So it feels good that people embrace that stuff too,
because I wouldn't say I was hesitant to put that
on there, but that was a bold move in my
in my uh you know, on my behalf. But I
also did record that song on live in front of
my fans, so they know that that song exists.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I'm comfortable with it, I'm confident with it.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
So that's why I was able to remember the comments
drop this, drop it, say it's.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
My favorite record.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
Yeah, I absolutely love it.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
And I think that like separation and like you said,
with your with your mom from being away from her
from like fifteen years, it also makes your guys bond
that much more stronger, and then it reflects on you
as a parent.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Yeah, totally, and it does it just her having an
opportunity to see her grandkids every day and be in
their lives right there that you know, if I got
to go somewhere, I'm like, yo, just call my mom.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
She's there's a lot of people that can't do that, right, So,
like that's so major, you know. I say that all
the time, like we're so lucky to be able to
be like I got to talk to my mom, right,
And moms can help with the kids when they can, obviously, right.
And she helped with Cadence, Oh yeah, all the time,
the time she'd be over there before I alays, don't
(10:44):
live with you.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
No, she doesn't, but she might as well. She she
likes having her own space. But there is times where
I wake up and I'll just hear her voice in
the house and she won't tell me.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
She's coming over, and nothing.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, I'm rebeb.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Though, does she have a key to your house?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
For sure?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
She got the gate coat, that's right, Jackie. Can Nico's
mom have a key to your place?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (11:09):
I would say when I engaged.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Yea, yeah, that's the main thing. You gotta the parents
gotta be cool.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Jack is also against mama's boys, you know what I mean?
So there's that.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
No, I'm not against it. It's just that my brother
is a mama's boy, So I'm against my brother.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I don't hear.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Like he just tells mom everything, Like.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Whenever we go like over, she like, if like he
starts bugging with me and like starts getting on my ass,
my mom will be like, Jack, cut it out. I'm like,
I literally did not even start. And we're grown ass
adults and it's still that way.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
My influence with Juicy J. As soon as that comes on,
you just like fucking Juicy J. Dog, he just knows
what to do. He's got that. It's that signature, right.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
I grew up listening to three and when Juicy and
when we did that song, it just reminded me of
everything that I wrote around listening to as a kid.
But now though, and being able to feel like that
with him was the same thing that I wanted to
do with my album. So we're doing the same exact thing.
Juicy never lost a step, a touch or anything. He
(12:19):
still produces, he still writes, He's in the studio every day,
and he has that sound that a lot of people
mimic or sample from now and you know, it's still
a relevant sound, whether it be the drum patterns or
the patterns of his flows, or just the all around
approach to the music. Juicy's been a huge influence. So
(12:41):
to do that song with him was like, you know,
it was big for me, and he's you know, everybody
knows our history together with him being signed the Tailor Gang,
so to just continue the legacy was really important for you.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Keep it going right, that's right, you know, speaking of
the album. You know, I'm from the Bay Area, so
I'm always loving whenever you work with Bay Area artists.
I think you got like the Russell on there June,
You've worked.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
With Fresh to Shore. Everybody like, what is it about the.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Bay Area that makes you want to keep on working
with our artists?
Speaker 5 (13:14):
I love the Bay Area because as soon as I
went out there, I noticed the similarities between the Bay
and Pittsburgh. We just we kind of talked to say,
and we kind of just value the same stuff. And
the weed is so good, right, that's weed in the world.
(13:35):
As soon as I found that weed, I was like, yeah,
literally the best weed in the world. And then like,
I have really good friends from out there. Burner is
like my brother, and you know, he showed me so
much about the game and just that wasn't music oriented,
and he put me in position as far as Khalifa
Cush that you know, nobody could have ever done. And
(13:55):
you know, just having real family members and and people
in the.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Always inspired me.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
But also the hustle from the Bay area, the independence
about the music, the production, the way it slaps. It's
super duper heavy, but it's funky as well, but it
has to slap though, Like yeah, yeah, I'm the same way,
like if I can't play that shit in my car,
like you know, yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
And like just growing up with that opinion about music.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Like we share that about our like our music, so
you know, just knowing that and then you know a
lot of the independent hustle, like how Too Short started,
you know, translated later into like little b you know
what I mean. And he's part of our generation as well.
But we got to see him do the same thing
(14:45):
on the Internet where he was just recording freestyles and
dropping stuff and you know what I mean, just being
his own person. And that's how pretty. And that's what
the Russell does as well. He's very consistent. He drops
this nigga dropped like thirty some albums, yeah, exact. So
it's like that Bay Area hustle.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Man.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
I always looked up to that, always respected that, and
that's something that I that I made sure that I
incorporated into my game as well.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
You got that sound, yeah, you know it's that it's
gotta sound right in the car sound.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, it's gotta sound right. It's got a slap.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
You gotta be talking the right way on there, like
your lingo gotta be correct. Yeah everything, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Jason Martin on there too, man. You know Toddy Dollars
sign as well.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
You feel me.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
It's a West Coast vibe, you know, and we mentioned
quick as well, Uh Terrace Martin, there's uh, there's there's
these unique sounds in these beats, right, how many do
you get to pick from as far as beats, dude,
are you offered a massive amount of beats or are
you just going through them every single day?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
What's that process?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Like?
Speaker 5 (15:50):
The process would be making for this album was. We
were really particular about how we picked the beats.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
A lot of them.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
I started just ground up just sounds, like just basic
one or two sounds and trying to just write raps
and build a groove around that and really figure out
what the pocket of the music was because I knew
I wanted to do something that was musical, had a
lot of instruments in it, had different sections to it,
(16:23):
but I didn't want it to sound too live or
to you know, not like anything that you would want
to play in your car or could enjoy in, you know,
just a regular environment. So it took a lot of
just finding what that pocket was and figuring out what
people would react the best to. So we went through
(16:44):
a lot of stuff where we just created things, and
then we started to find who could actually make these
you know, the stuff that we were building ground up.
We figured out who could do that but currently you
know what I mean, and make it sound like what
people are used to. And that's where Mike and Keys
really come in, Cardo comes in sledgering. You know a
(17:09):
lot of people uh freaking TM, Mike will a lot
of people who have that live sound, but they're creating it,
you know, the way people are used to hearing it.
And then we were able to manipulate some stuff to
where because a lot of the original Cushion Orange Jude
sound is a real soulful sound. Yeah yeah, so you know,
(17:31):
without sampling, we were able to manipulate a lot of
stuff to where it sounds sampled or where it feels
old school, but it's new and it's really you know,
original stuff. So we worked really hard to develop the
sound to just make it, you know, what people are
comfortable with, and also use the technology that we have
now as well.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Ah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, it was a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yeah, and manipulating a sound is also very cost effective.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Right right, yeah yeah yeah yeah, I mean yeah, yeah,
no clearances at all, dog, but it gives.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
You that sound though, Like where did that come from?
You know?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, dude in New York. You know, he carries a
piano on him and then he just has them like
wrap over.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Right you know.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Yeah, it's like make a beat right there, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
because you know, there's really ways to do it. And
then there's a lot of breadcrumbs from the original cushion
orange juice that I dropped in there too that I
wanted you to feel the DNA of it, but it
not anxiety that So yeah, for sure, man, I'm glad
we were able to like put it together, and to me,
(18:34):
I'm really impressed with the sonics of it, and it
stands up there with like the real classics like doggy
Style and like Chronic and things that changed music, like
not just you know, our standout moments for the artists,
but actually changed how people created albums after that, Like
this is one of those.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Yeah, Red Eye and hit it once as well. I'm
glad they you know, they made it on as well. Yeah,
got that Island vibe.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Right, yep, definitely got that Island vibe. Smoke vibe, Yeah,
smoke vibe, Yeah for sure. I mean, you know, those
came out of nowhere. Like I don't even try when
I do stuff like that, I just go all over
the place and then some stuff just be going crazy.
And when I did Red Eyes, I started it and
then I played a little bit of it for somebody
and I seen their face and I was like, oh, yeah,
(19:21):
this is one of them one And I just drove
around like in my Ferrari and just wrote the hook
and kind of just felt the vibe of it, and
then when I put it, put the song all the
way together. And every time I play it for people,
they say that's one of their like standout tracks to them,
just as far as energy and flicks out.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Sure, do you still have your pet dispenser collection?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I I don't think I ever had that.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Who said that.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
The Internet said you used to collect pests?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Never?
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Never was the Internet? The Internet wasn't wrong though, that
you used to live in Japan.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I did live in Japan for how long? Oh two
and a half years.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah, I don't remember all that.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
It sounded good. You're gonna do none of that.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Baseball player man, oh for the Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
I don't watch sports either, you know, I love the Japanese.
The same thing, right, right, right right?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
It's all for.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
The cover is crazy too. You got the world just
you know, covered with with weed all the day. And
I started thinking about the bald spots, right, and I'm like, well,
it'll look like a fuzzy ball.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I guess if you if you cover the entire.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
World spot.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Yeah, no, it's like symbolizing that, you know, we're Taylor
Gang in.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
The whole world. Yeah, so slowly.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
But surely it's taken over. You see some spots we
were fulfilled. In some spots we got some work to do.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Was there a song that you wanted on the project
and it just couldn't make it on?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Nope?
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Everything that I wanted on there absolutely made it on there.
My whole team worked really hard will over at Taylor Gang.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
This is a Tailor Gang release through BMG.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
But you gotta have some pushback from someone, right Nope,
really nope.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Everything we cleared everything that needed to be cleared, and
I worked all the way up until the day that
you know, I needed to turn it in, So all
the way up until the very last second, each skip
in between everything. I'm happy with everything, Like there was
nothing that I wish that I could have done that
I didn't do to this hour.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
So there's no regrets, no regrets, no regards, no regrets. Yo.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Whiz is a Grandma's Boyfrian.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Oh yeah, yeah, that movie.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
That's my favorite any house that I ever moved in.
I would before I even got furniture, I would get
a TV. And Grandma's Boy on god Man so many classes.
It's crazy how like it flopped in the movie theaters
but once.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
It hit DVDs. I think it's so like one hundred
million years absolutely.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
I was just hearing about that, like how DVD's being
gone messed up movies because they was depending on that.
After it didn't do good in the theater, It's like, well,
at least it'll do.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Good on DVD. But that's why.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
They don't make movies like that no more, because they
can't afford it. So we'll never get movies like that
no more because they won't perform.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah, yeah, and I would get your series.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
We're screwed.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
We're screwed, We're fucked. Great movies out there. You know,
what's your favorite line from Grandma's Boy? There's so many.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Now when she took the cereal away from them and
that big dude's like, sucks to be you, nerd.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I love what dudes on the news. He's like, and
there he was the fucking king of the junk. Such
a fucking classic movie.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Man.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
What are some great movies to like watching? The extremely High.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
There's that.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
There's role models, Yeah, role models cracks me up. Anchor man, Oh, Dodgeball,
Dodgeball yeah, Verge shows bro dodge Balls.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Is there any serious movies that you're serious?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Shindler's List or.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Watch like King of New York.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
King of New York, Yeah, fucking loaded.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, the movie is crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
You know. Me and Jackie got stupid high one night
and then we just won the entire Chappelle Show.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Oh yeah, that's great.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Because I had never seen the Chappelle Show, like, oh yeah.
And then it went on to Boon Dogs after that,
and I was just like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
This is like you gotta watch Half Baked.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, half Baked.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
This was a true high too.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah. I did Shrimps and watched Interstellar. Oh me too.
Ship's cold crazy?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Wait what's so crazy about?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
In?
Speaker 6 (24:10):
Interstellar was already crazy in itself?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
But god, are you? Are you micro dosing orre you
just going for it?
Speaker 5 (24:18):
I'm doing micro dosing? Well not now, but I did
micaro does. But at that time I was full of ribbon.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Yeah yeah, my uncle, we had like the chocolate.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
So we didn't think the first one was enough, so
we took another one we were just stupid watching.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I heard shroom tea you might not be able to
come back from sometimes.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, now the tea was wild.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
I still feel the tea kicking, like sometimes it comes back.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
You're like, oh, yeah, you got more like an amazing time. Man,
have you ever gone further than that, like a wasp
or anything like that?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Never done ayahuasca before?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
That sounds crazy too, Yeah it does.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I mean it reveals things.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
I think a lot of those things are for people
who don't unravel shit man, like years and yeah, stuff
to unravel like it quickly does that for you. Luckily,
I've done a lot of work unraveling.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Much.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I'm pretty unraveled.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I got it from here.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Manasca dog like that shit a lock shit to.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Dog and you're just like, yo, bro, I don't know
if I wanted to be here.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, yeah, it shows you some stuff and you.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Got to leave the country to do that. You can't
do it here like in North Hollywood.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
No, they do. They have like shamans and stuff like that.
They have people in New York who are like certified.
But it's probably better if you.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Go shaman's name. I like, I want it. I want
to be able to not be able to pronounce it. Yeah,
you know, if it's Larry, I don't I don't want
you know, Shman.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
It's not gonna be Jack when you do thatawash it,
It's gonna be some other stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
They do it in like apartments, you know, like they
have like ceremonies and things like that, and you know
you can pay. They do retreats out here too, and
like now probably now do you know areas where you
can retreat?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, you know a lot about it for not ever
doing it.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Get invited to a lot of colts. I just haven't
joined one yet.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
The other day, I'm still recovering from the other day.
We had a really like well I had a really
bad like shroon trip to where like I found like
my euphoria in my happy place. But then I was
like crying for three hours and he was just like,
you're reminding me of the Joker in this moment. He
was just like, you're crazy. Yeah, but like I'm chill
with it, Like, okay, who else, it's.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Fun, that's cool. I could be a bummer too though, right,
He like accepted you for who you are. Yeah, it
was a lot to I was.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
I was un.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
But you accepted her. That mean you guys are really
in love because it could have freaked you out. But
he's like, yo, I got you.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I mean I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
I was freaked out for like five minutes and then
I was all right, we're good.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Are you good? I know what to do with this.
Let me let me stronger man than I am. That
string right, I might have.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
To break up with this chick wild and I'm crazy,
so like, what the fuck we can't be together? Back
to the colts, yo, Like that's insane, right, Like when
you're when you're a celebrity, there there as certain things
you get invited to that you i mean obviously think
of maybe going to, but then thinking there's somewhere like
I would never go to Scott.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Be aware, you you gotta look at the situation, like,
you know, it's a lot of rich people too, you know,
because they like they had, they like to have their way,
and they think they can just like buy you or like,
you know, kind of opportunity you into doing some some random,
you know, three month retreat that turns into like you know,
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a lot of obligations.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
But like you just gotta be aware of that stuff.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
I think out here people don't think that it's true
because they like watch documentaries or they they think it's
like false because it seems so crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
But it's like it's true, is it. It's very true.
It's really true.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Like people use on scientology.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Beyond scientology, they use mental health as like you know
what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the hook. Yeah, they
like they have a little mushroom. They got like ketamine
ship that they do like and they like use it
as like it's good for you, like you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
But really they're like and people who watch these documentaries
always want to think like, oh I can't get like
sucked into that.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, very easy. Yeah, it's super duper easy.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
See control role thing? Yeah yeah, what do they want
to do with you? Whatever?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I never got that far.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
To be continued. I never got that. We don't want
to find out.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah nah yeah yeah I'm coolnah.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
And they you know, I think they come to you
as they want to help you. People want to help you.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Yeah, they want to be like your spirit guide and
all of these things. And it's cool, like on a
surface level, you know what I mean, Because when you
take what the benefits from it.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
It's cool.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
But then when you start going a little bit deeper,
you start to figure out what's what's really cracking.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
You start to figure it out real quick.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Yeah yeah, But if you stay on the surface level,
you're good. Yeah yeah, surface level meaning watch just like
keep it cool, keep it cool, high by you know, information,
I mis stay like you know what I mean, But.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I'm not going to stay.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I'm good man, just say.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
I gotta go.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yo, Hey, bring your lungs.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Did you have that song already for a minute or
was that something you got done pretty quick?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
That was something we created on the spot. Yeah, yep.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
We used that one to really kick off the album
and like gain some energy and just you know, kind
of tell the narrative of what the album and Cushion
Ois Just Too is all about. And that was a
blessing because working with BMG, we came up with this
method to release the records called the Waterfall method, and
it ended up really working really well, where we picked
(30:50):
four songs that we really liked and we just released
them throughout the rollout of Cushion ONGs just to coming out.
So we really didn't even have the date for when
it was supposed to be really least. We were releasing
these songs and just kind of getting the temperature of
what we could do later, and it allowed me the
time to find a pocket and create the music that
(31:11):
you know, I knew would resonate with my fans, and
also not rush the experience of Cushion Orange Juice too,
because if we if we would have just dropped the
album around the time of those four songs, or used
one of those songs as the single, and then dropped
the album right after it, we would have been done
and we wouldn't even been talking about Cushion Orange Juice
right now. But the idea was to elongate the experience
(31:32):
and make sure people know what we're getting into and
then finally get delivered a full album. And the process
was risky. Nobody had really done it like that before,
but it ended up working almost now just something new,
like it's something that's you know, works with the times.
It's something that you know when you look at how
(31:56):
people digest music, and you look at playlisting and you
look at you know, everybody's job is just what works
for the long run. As opposed to the normal method
of focused track album done right.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Single hook.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
Yeah, now we we really you know, made you know,
a tailored experience for this album and made people interested
in it for an entire year and it didn't come
out until a year later, but we since we spent
the whole year setting it up.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
It's very smart.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Man.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
You mentioned pocket. That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, yeah, it's that that pocket. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
It was something that we were confident in, still love,
still confident in, still a part of the process, and
something that helped us to get to where we where
we are now.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yo.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
On top of the music, right, and not the brag,
but to inspire. Can you mention what you're invested in
as far as an investor goes, and what you've put
money into.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Yeah, My investments include h Khalifa, CUSH, p f L
excuse me, which is the Professional Fighters League, Liquid Death.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Death early Yeah, the early investor in Look with Death. Damn.
I know.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I'm forgetting something path out here, path pathwater. Uh no,
not not Pathwater. I have a mushroom company called mister
Caps as well. Yeah, I got you don't even trip
and I'm missing out on something.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
But yeah it's all good.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but I mean You don't have to
invest millions of dollars to make millions of dollars, Is
that right?
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah, that's correct. Yeah, you should, Uh, you should invest
what works for you at the time.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
And especially whatever wherever the company is at and how
much you're able to work for that company.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
When you invest.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
There's a difference between just putting money into it and
expecting it to blow up and then putting money into
it and actually helping the company grow. And each company
that I'm invested in, I have, you know, uh part
in helping that company grow, and it's based off of
my platform. It's based off of what I can do
(34:23):
physically in person, It's based off of you know, a
lot of other things that make me valuable to the
company as well. So when the company does do well,
that's where where my worth comes from. So it's not
because I invested millions of dollars in it, but it's
because I actually help it grow as a company over time.
(34:45):
And that's what you know, real business is all about.
If you're going to invest or Yeah, if you're gonna invest,
you're gonna help the company grow.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
You're going to be an asset to the company.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
You're not just putting money in something that you hope,
you know what I mean, fucking blows up one.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Day season, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah Yo.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Would you go to space if there was like a
celebrity journey?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Wouldn't get super duper fucking high and go to space?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I'm straight, I'm cool.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
I wonder why it only takes like forty five minutes
to get to space, but it takes seven hours to
get to.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Freaking you know, to crypto dot com.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. We gotta wear a
rocket at all. I know we're in a rocket and
all that.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
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Speaker 2 (35:38):
So so
Oh my god, is that Nico Blitz so well? We
get you so well, we spoke me. Let's just step
it fun we Okay, Lucie got this up and I
got all this drank boat up.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
A bottle out of his bottles up in this club.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Can't be let all my dogs. But I'm trying to
leave whenever you need me.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Now, whoever you want me, you know you got. I
mean there short thing you'll second. They don't help me.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I should be your best hold me when the day
sturns tonight. I keep thinking about you. Moving from makes
me wondering if you hear this song? Yeah, would you
right the way that we went from? Yes?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Put up and they ask him my feet hurt you
to leave a man?
Speaker 5 (00:42):
A hey, mister pick tell me not because my whole
blitz Stu and boy, what's up?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yellow?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (00:54):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
It is?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Not anything I do?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
God, I go to Yeah. I was screaming that when
I moved up a lot anyway you think that anyway?
Getting up with some time girls and make plans and
(01:18):
he can take it.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Let show you a pantin show you how my lifestyle
the cruise show yo. Whereas Khalifa was back on the
Cruise show Let's get It.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah, man, Yo, a lot of hits yo, that was
a nice intro for show. Shout out to Nico Blinz.
He did that for you man. Yeah you bro, Bro.
Nine hundred hits is crazy, Bro, I had to control.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
That's a crazy set list.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
That's a super Time I'm sorry, super Bowl if time
shi Yeah, yeah for sure. You know where you could
just keep performing in every song. It's just that song, yeh.
That evokes emotion and memories from people. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
That's what I was thinking about.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Like a lot of memories to those, Yeah, a lot
of memories creating music.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Do we remember everything because there's a lot of smoke
also involved.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, I remember everything, that's right. I remember everything. I
remember all those.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
That's right, b yo Yo, So online wiz, Like the
content is crazy, right, Like we're traveling, we're on private planes,
we're putting outfits out, we're feeding Shadow clear Blue pregnancy test.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I love it all.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Yeah, for sure, I stay busy, I stay active. That's
the TikTok on the Instagram. That's you get the good
weed content on.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
This right Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Yeah, you get like jars of trees. You get bong ribs,
you get low riders, Yeah, you get all that.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Yeah, n you know, and like what people may not
remember maybe is like yo, like the Internet early, for
like that's where you got to really show who you were,
Like you told everybody who you were on the Internet.
You and Mac Miller were on that YouTube and Internet early.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Yeah, absolutely. Twitter was really big for me. YouTube really
big for me, just being able to curate my fan
base and like figure out who was really there for
me and who supported me and actually entertained them. And
a lot of my early mixtapes like Flight School and
(03:19):
Cushion Orange Juice Burned after Rolling Cabin Fever, a lot
of that stuff was just really you know, all directed
towards the Internet. And yeah, I made a lot of
you know, my early career, you know, fans and just
expectations of what Wiz Khalifa was. I really got my
(03:41):
identity off of that.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Were you and Mac like, y'all, we're gonna kill this
Internet shit.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
I don't know about about what what Mac thought about
the Internet because he was a little bit younger than me,
but for me, yeah, yeah, for sure. But for me,
it really started, like I didn't have a record deal,
So that was like my only outlet, Like that was
(04:09):
the only way to really get my music out there
and like really have people.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Hear me or know what I was doing.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
So as soon as I figured out like I could
do it for my basement like in my mom's crib,
I just was like, you know, I was nonstops all.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah jeems, I mean, you know for it.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
That's why I love all the streamers because that method
still exists where you can just you know, be consistent
on the Internet and get it cracking and become you know,
a you know, a real taste maker out here.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
You broadcast to the world. Huh from your own ship.
You broadcasting life from your own shit. Absolutely, that's crazy,
right Yeah. KLJ two is out, it's out. We're here, man,
keep streaming it, man, it's crazy. Congratulations the sequel sequel
fifteen years later.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Fifteen years later, and it was like four days away
from like the real fifteen anniversary.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
So why why so long? I mean obviously, right, there's
so much in between. I mean, yo, like just legendary music.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah yeah, I think it just worked out like that.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
I'm in a lot of like really blessed situations that
I'm that I'm grateful for, one being that everybody is
really into the whole nostalgia of the blog era and
like the era that I came up in to the
point where they created this whole narrative where it's like
Wiz bringing the blog era back. He's bringing that feeling
(05:36):
back feels like twenty ten again. So just feeling that
that people embracing that I knew that Cushion Oms used
to would be the most exciting thing that I could
do and the most anticipated thing that I could do,
instead of like trying to come up with some new
concept that would like possibly go over people's heads or
(05:57):
could hit or couldn't hit, I mean they can hit
or miss. I knew that Cushion Orange Juice was something
that people were looking forward to, whether they knew it
or not, and at the minute that I said that
I was doing it, they would be interested. And it
set the bar up to a level for me to,
you know, make sure that I achieve as well. And
(06:18):
also just a combination of like timing too, you know,
we dropped the album around four twenty, so just being
able to own that time and to create those experiences
that surround the original cushion orange juice. That's what's really
the music is all about, is just hanging out, having
a good time, chilling. You might be on vacation, you
(06:39):
might smoke for the first time, like whatever. Those experiences
and memories are allowing them people to attach that to
the music as well.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And yeah, so it was just a combination of things.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
No, man, Taylor gang is all over it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
We got our appearances in easy Wider, Let's go?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, is on there quick? No?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
You got David Marvin Blake on Yeah. Yeah, it's a
different verse.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah for real.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
You know Terris Martin, you got that treatment. Yeah, yeah,
that jat Taylor's crazy thank you, Yes, sir, thank you.
With the horns in it like that, Like, Yo, that's different.
That's a that's a you know, that's a you remember
that sound. Yeah, yeah, definitely very sticky. Hey you know
what I'm saying. But nah, I mean, like yo, like that.
(07:27):
There's songs on there that just make you feel something,
you know what I mean. And it's like it's right
around music. You know, you can work out to it
as well, you live your life.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Yeah, it's super chill and it's current too. It's like
where I'm at in my life right now. It's talking
about the things that are relevant to me. I talk
about like kicking it with my two kids. That's the
perfect evening and just saying stuff that are relevant to
you know, real people in the world who they can
relate to.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Like it's really feel good in party music, but it's
also motivational music.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
There's stuff for the ladies.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
There's stuff to smoke too, and there's stuff that you know,
if you want to elevate, it sounds cool elevating.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Else is very cool is just to see you smile. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
You talk about the love for your mom, your sibling
that you lost. Right, You're being very vulnerable about it,
and you're sharing your experience, yeah, right, and your feelings
on it.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Right. That's got to be a tough song to get done.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Yeah, I mean, but also maybe therapeutic. Yeah, for sure,
definitely therapeutic. And for me, it's something that I like
to do because I like to show all parts of
who I am, like the good stuff and just the
stuff that might not be so easy to talk about
but also makes me who I am, and my relationship
with my.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Mom is really important to me, both of my parents.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
But my mom just moved out here to LA with
me just having a daughter, so I haven't lived in
the same city as her in fifteen years, and you know,
like as an adult, it just feels good. It feels
like fresh and year to have my mom. I'm back
with my mom, I'm back close to my mom. She
right up the street from me. So it's like it's
(09:10):
it's relevant to me, you know, like a lot of
people could just write that song be like, Okay, well
I need a song about my mom on the album,
but like, I'm seeing my mom every day for the
first time in fifteen years, so it's like it's relevant
to me. It means something, right, right, this is now Yeah, yeah,
you're getting a song.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
So it feels good that people embrace that stuff too,
because I wouldn't say I was hesitant to put that
on there, but that was a bold move in my
in my uh you know, on my behalf. But I
also did record that song on live in front of
my fans, so they know that that song exists.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I'm comfortable with it, I'm confident with it.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
So that's why I was able to remember the comments
drop this, drop it, say it's.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
My favorite record.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
Yeah, I absolutely love it.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
And I think that like separation and like you said,
with your with your mom from being away from her
from like fifteen years, it also makes your guys bond
that much more stronger, and then it reflects on you
as a parent.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Yeah, totally, and it does it just her having an
opportunity to see her grandkids every day and be in
their lives right there that you know, if I got
to go somewhere, I'm like, yo, just call my mom.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
She's there's a lot of people that can't do that, right, So,
like that's so major, you know. I say that all
the time, like we're so lucky to be able to
be like I got to talk to my mom, right,
And moms can help with the kids when they can, obviously, right.
And she helped with Cadence, Oh yeah, all the time,
the time she'd be over there before I alays, don't
(10:44):
live with you.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
No, she doesn't, but she might as well. She she
likes having her own space. But there is times where
I wake up and I'll just hear her voice in
the house and she won't tell me.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
She's coming over, and nothing.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, I'm rebeb.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Though, does she have a key to your house?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
For sure?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
She got the gate coat, that's right, Jackie. Can Nico's
mom have a key to your place?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (11:09):
I would say when I engaged.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Yea, yeah, that's the main thing. You gotta the parents
gotta be cool.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Jack is also against mama's boys, you know what I mean?
So there's that.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
No, I'm not against it. It's just that my brother
is a mama's boy, So I'm against my brother.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I don't hear.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Like he just tells mom everything, Like.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Whenever we go like over, she like, if like he
starts bugging with me and like starts getting on my ass,
my mom will be like, Jack, cut it out. I'm like,
I literally did not even start. And we're grown ass
adults and it's still that way.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
My influence with Juicy J. As soon as that comes on,
you just like fucking Juicy J. Dog, he just knows
what to do. He's got that. It's that signature, right.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
I grew up listening to three and when Juicy and
when we did that song, it just reminded me of
everything that I wrote around listening to as a kid.
But now though, and being able to feel like that
with him was the same thing that I wanted to
do with my album. So we're doing the same exact thing.
Juicy never lost a step, a touch or anything. He
(12:19):
still produces, he still writes, He's in the studio every day,
and he has that sound that a lot of people
mimic or sample from now and you know, it's still
a relevant sound, whether it be the drum patterns or
the patterns of his flows, or just the all around
approach to the music. Juicy's been a huge influence. So
(12:41):
to do that song with him was like, you know,
it was big for me, and he's you know, everybody
knows our history together with him being signed the Tailor Gang,
so to just continue the legacy was really important for you.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Keep it going right, that's right, you know, speaking of
the album. You know, I'm from the Bay Area, so
I'm always loving whenever you work with Bay Area artists.
I think you got like the Russell on there June,
You've worked.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
With Fresh to Shore. Everybody like, what is it about the.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Bay Area that makes you want to keep on working
with our artists?
Speaker 5 (13:14):
I love the Bay Area because as soon as I
went out there, I noticed the similarities between the Bay
and Pittsburgh. We just we kind of talked to say,
and we kind of just value the same stuff. And
the weed is so good, right, that's weed in the world.
(13:35):
As soon as I found that weed, I was like, yeah,
literally the best weed in the world. And then like,
I have really good friends from out there. Burner is
like my brother, and you know, he showed me so
much about the game and just that wasn't music oriented,
and he put me in position as far as Khalifa
Cush that you know, nobody could have ever done. And
(13:55):
you know, just having real family members and and people
in the.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Always inspired me.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
But also the hustle from the Bay area, the independence
about the music, the production, the way it slaps. It's
super duper heavy, but it's funky as well, but it
has to slap though, Like yeah, yeah, I'm the same way,
like if I can't play that shit in my car,
like you know, yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
And like just growing up with that opinion about music.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Like we share that about our like our music, so
you know, just knowing that and then you know a
lot of the independent hustle, like how Too Short started,
you know, translated later into like little b you know
what I mean. And he's part of our generation as well.
But we got to see him do the same thing
(14:45):
on the Internet where he was just recording freestyles and
dropping stuff and you know what I mean, just being
his own person. And that's how pretty. And that's what
the Russell does as well. He's very consistent. He drops
this nigga dropped like thirty some albums, yeah, exact. So
it's like that Bay Area hustle.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Man.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
I always looked up to that, always respected that, and
that's something that I that I made sure that I
incorporated into my game as well.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
You got that sound, yeah, you know it's that it's
gotta sound right in the car sound.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, it's gotta sound right. It's got a slap.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
You gotta be talking the right way on there, like
your lingo gotta be correct. Yeah everything, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Jason Martin on there too, man. You know Toddy Dollars
sign as well.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
You feel me.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
It's a West Coast vibe, you know, and we mentioned
quick as well, Uh Terrace Martin, there's uh, there's there's
these unique sounds in these beats, right, how many do
you get to pick from as far as beats, dude,
are you offered a massive amount of beats or are
you just going through them every single day?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
What's that process?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Like?
Speaker 5 (15:50):
The process would be making for this album was. We
were really particular about how we picked the beats.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
A lot of them.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
I started just ground up just sounds, like just basic
one or two sounds and trying to just write raps
and build a groove around that and really figure out
what the pocket of the music was because I knew
I wanted to do something that was musical, had a
lot of instruments in it, had different sections to it,
(16:23):
but I didn't want it to sound too live or
to you know, not like anything that you would want
to play in your car or could enjoy in, you know,
just a regular environment. So it took a lot of
just finding what that pocket was and figuring out what
people would react the best to. So we went through
(16:44):
a lot of stuff where we just created things, and
then we started to find who could actually make these
you know, the stuff that we were building ground up.
We figured out who could do that but currently you
know what I mean, and make it sound like what
people are used to. And that's where Mike and Keys
really come in, Cardo comes in sledgering. You know a
(17:09):
lot of people uh freaking TM, Mike will a lot
of people who have that live sound, but they're creating it,
you know, the way people are used to hearing it.
And then we were able to manipulate some stuff to
where because a lot of the original Cushion Orange Jude
sound is a real soulful sound. Yeah yeah, so you know,
(17:31):
without sampling, we were able to manipulate a lot of
stuff to where it sounds sampled or where it feels
old school, but it's new and it's really you know,
original stuff. So we worked really hard to develop the
sound to just make it, you know, what people are
comfortable with, and also use the technology that we have
now as well.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Ah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, it was a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yeah, and manipulating a sound is also very cost effective.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Right right, yeah yeah yeah yeah, I mean yeah, yeah,
no clearances at all, dog, but it gives.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
You that sound though, Like where did that come from?
You know?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, dude in New York. You know, he carries a
piano on him and then he just has them like
wrap over.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Right you know.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Yeah, it's like make a beat right there, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
because you know, there's really ways to do it. And
then there's a lot of breadcrumbs from the original cushion
orange juice that I dropped in there too that I
wanted you to feel the DNA of it, but it
not anxiety that So yeah, for sure, man, I'm glad
we were able to like put it together, and to me,
(18:34):
I'm really impressed with the sonics of it, and it
stands up there with like the real classics like doggy
Style and like Chronic and things that changed music, like
not just you know, our standout moments for the artists,
but actually changed how people created albums after that, Like
this is one of those.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Yeah, Red Eye and hit it once as well. I'm
glad they you know, they made it on as well. Yeah,
got that Island vibe.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Right, yep, definitely got that Island vibe. Smoke vibe, Yeah,
smoke vibe, Yeah for sure. I mean, you know, those
came out of nowhere. Like I don't even try when
I do stuff like that, I just go all over
the place and then some stuff just be going crazy.
And when I did Red Eyes, I started it and
then I played a little bit of it for somebody
and I seen their face and I was like, oh, yeah,
(19:21):
this is one of them one And I just drove
around like in my Ferrari and just wrote the hook
and kind of just felt the vibe of it, and
then when I put it, put the song all the
way together. And every time I play it for people,
they say that's one of their like standout tracks to them,
just as far as energy and flicks out.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Sure, do you still have your pet dispenser collection?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I I don't think I ever had that.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Who said that.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
The Internet said you used to collect pests?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Never?
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Never was the Internet? The Internet wasn't wrong though, that
you used to live in Japan.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I did live in Japan for how long? Oh two
and a half years.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah, I don't remember all that.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
It sounded good. You're gonna do none of that.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Baseball player man, oh for the Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
I don't watch sports either, you know, I love the Japanese.
The same thing, right, right, right right?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
It's all for.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
The cover is crazy too. You got the world just
you know, covered with with weed all the day. And
I started thinking about the bald spots, right, and I'm like, well,
it'll look like a fuzzy ball.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I guess if you if you cover the entire.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
World spot.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Yeah, no, it's like symbolizing that, you know, we're Taylor
Gang in.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
The whole world. Yeah, so slowly.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
But surely it's taken over. You see some spots we
were fulfilled. In some spots we got some work to do.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Was there a song that you wanted on the project
and it just couldn't make it on?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Nope?
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Everything that I wanted on there absolutely made it on there.
My whole team worked really hard will over at Taylor Gang.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
This is a Tailor Gang release through BMG.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
But you gotta have some pushback from someone, right Nope,
really nope.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Everything we cleared everything that needed to be cleared, and
I worked all the way up until the day that
you know, I needed to turn it in, So all
the way up until the very last second, each skip
in between everything. I'm happy with everything, Like there was
nothing that I wish that I could have done that
I didn't do to this hour.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
So there's no regrets, no regrets, no regards, no regrets. Yo.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Whiz is a Grandma's Boyfrian.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Oh yeah, yeah, that movie.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
That's my favorite any house that I ever moved in.
I would before I even got furniture, I would get
a TV. And Grandma's Boy on god Man so many classes.
It's crazy how like it flopped in the movie theaters
but once.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
It hit DVDs. I think it's so like one hundred
million years absolutely.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
I was just hearing about that, like how DVD's being
gone messed up movies because they was depending on that.
After it didn't do good in the theater, It's like, well,
at least it'll do.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Good on DVD. But that's why.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
They don't make movies like that no more, because they
can't afford it. So we'll never get movies like that
no more because they won't perform.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah, yeah, and I would get your series.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
We're screwed.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
We're screwed, We're fucked. Great movies out there. You know,
what's your favorite line from Grandma's Boy? There's so many.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Now when she took the cereal away from them and
that big dude's like, sucks to be you, nerd.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I love what dudes on the news. He's like, and
there he was the fucking king of the junk. Such
a fucking classic movie.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Man.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
What are some great movies to like watching? The extremely High.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
There's that.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
There's role models, Yeah, role models cracks me up. Anchor man, Oh, Dodgeball,
Dodgeball yeah, Verge shows bro dodge Balls.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Is there any serious movies that you're serious?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Shindler's List or.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Watch like King of New York.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
King of New York, Yeah, fucking loaded.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, the movie is crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
You know. Me and Jackie got stupid high one night
and then we just won the entire Chappelle Show.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Oh yeah, that's great.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Because I had never seen the Chappelle Show, like, oh yeah.
And then it went on to Boon Dogs after that,
and I was just like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
This is like you gotta watch Half Baked.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, half Baked.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
This was a true high too.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah. I did Shrimps and watched Interstellar. Oh me too.
Ship's cold crazy?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Wait what's so crazy about?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
In?
Speaker 6 (24:10):
Interstellar was already crazy in itself?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
But god, are you? Are you micro dosing orre you
just going for it?
Speaker 5 (24:18):
I'm doing micro dosing? Well not now, but I did
micaro does. But at that time I was full of ribbon.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Yeah yeah, my uncle, we had like the chocolate.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
So we didn't think the first one was enough, so
we took another one we were just stupid watching.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I heard shroom tea you might not be able to
come back from sometimes.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, now the tea was wild.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
I still feel the tea kicking, like sometimes it comes back.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
You're like, oh, yeah, you got more like an amazing time. Man,
have you ever gone further than that, like a wasp
or anything like that?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Never done ayahuasca before?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
That sounds crazy too, Yeah it does.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I mean it reveals things.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
I think a lot of those things are for people
who don't unravel shit man, like years and yeah, stuff
to unravel like it quickly does that for you. Luckily,
I've done a lot of work unraveling.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Much.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I'm pretty unraveled.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I got it from here.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Manasca dog like that shit a lock shit to.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Dog and you're just like, yo, bro, I don't know
if I wanted to be here.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, yeah, it shows you some stuff and you.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Got to leave the country to do that. You can't
do it here like in North Hollywood.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
No, they do. They have like shamans and stuff like that.
They have people in New York who are like certified.
But it's probably better if you.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Go shaman's name. I like, I want it. I want
to be able to not be able to pronounce it. Yeah,
you know, if it's Larry, I don't I don't want
you know, Shman.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
It's not gonna be Jack when you do thatawash it,
It's gonna be some other stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
They do it in like apartments, you know, like they
have like ceremonies and things like that, and you know
you can pay. They do retreats out here too, and
like now probably now do you know areas where you
can retreat?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, you know a lot about it for not ever
doing it.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Get invited to a lot of colts. I just haven't
joined one yet.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
The other day, I'm still recovering from the other day.
We had a really like well I had a really
bad like shroon trip to where like I found like
my euphoria in my happy place. But then I was
like crying for three hours and he was just like,
you're reminding me of the Joker in this moment. He
was just like, you're crazy. Yeah, but like I'm chill
with it, Like, okay, who else, it's.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Fun, that's cool. I could be a bummer too though, right,
He like accepted you for who you are. Yeah, it
was a lot to I was.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
I was un.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
But you accepted her. That mean you guys are really
in love because it could have freaked you out. But
he's like, yo, I got you.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I mean I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
I was freaked out for like five minutes and then
I was all right, we're good.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Are you good? I know what to do with this.
Let me let me stronger man than I am. That
string right, I might have.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
To break up with this chick wild and I'm crazy,
so like, what the fuck we can't be together? Back
to the colts, yo, Like that's insane, right, Like when
you're when you're a celebrity, there there as certain things
you get invited to that you i mean obviously think
of maybe going to, but then thinking there's somewhere like
I would never go to Scott.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Be aware, you you gotta look at the situation, like,
you know, it's a lot of rich people too, you know,
because they like they had, they like to have their way,
and they think they can just like buy you or like,
you know, kind of opportunity you into doing some some random,
you know, three month retreat that turns into like you know,
(28:12):
a lot of obligations.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
But like you just gotta be aware of that stuff.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
I think out here people don't think that it's true
because they like watch documentaries or they they think it's
like false because it seems so crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
But it's like it's true, is it. It's very true.
It's really true.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Like people use on scientology.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Beyond scientology, they use mental health as like you know
what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the hook. Yeah, they
like they have a little mushroom. They got like ketamine
ship that they do like and they like use it
as like it's good for you, like you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
But really they're like and people who watch these documentaries
always want to think like, oh I can't get like
sucked into that.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, very easy. Yeah, it's super duper easy.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
See control role thing? Yeah yeah, what do they want
to do with you? Whatever?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I never got that far.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
To be continued. I never got that. We don't want
to find out.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah nah yeah yeah I'm coolnah.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
And they you know, I think they come to you
as they want to help you. People want to help you.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Yeah, they want to be like your spirit guide and
all of these things. And it's cool, like on a
surface level, you know what I mean, Because when you
take what the benefits from it.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
It's cool.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
But then when you start going a little bit deeper,
you start to figure out what's what's really cracking.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
You start to figure it out real quick.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Yeah yeah, But if you stay on the surface level,
you're good. Yeah yeah, surface level meaning watch just like
keep it cool, keep it cool, high by you know, information,
I mis stay like you know what I mean, But.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I'm not going to stay.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I'm good man, just say.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
I gotta go.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yo, Hey, bring your lungs.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Did you have that song already for a minute or
was that something you got done pretty quick?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
That was something we created on the spot. Yeah, yep.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
We used that one to really kick off the album
and like gain some energy and just you know, kind
of tell the narrative of what the album and Cushion
Ois Just Too is all about. And that was a
blessing because working with BMG, we came up with this
method to release the records called the Waterfall method, and
it ended up really working really well, where we picked
(30:50):
four songs that we really liked and we just released
them throughout the rollout of Cushion ONGs just to coming out.
So we really didn't even have the date for when
it was supposed to be really least. We were releasing
these songs and just kind of getting the temperature of
what we could do later, and it allowed me the
time to find a pocket and create the music that
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you know, I knew would resonate with my fans, and
also not rush the experience of Cushion Orange Juice too,
because if we if we would have just dropped the
album around the time of those four songs, or used
one of those songs as the single, and then dropped
the album right after it, we would have been done
and we wouldn't even been talking about Cushion Orange Juice
right now. But the idea was to elongate the experience
(31:32):
and make sure people know what we're getting into and
then finally get delivered a full album. And the process
was risky. Nobody had really done it like that before,
but it ended up working almost now just something new,
like it's something that's you know, works with the times.
It's something that you know when you look at how
(31:56):
people digest music, and you look at playlisting and you
look at you know, everybody's job is just what works
for the long run. As opposed to the normal method
of focused track album done right.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Single hook.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
Yeah, now we we really you know, made you know,
a tailored experience for this album and made people interested
in it for an entire year and it didn't come
out until a year later, but we since we spent
the whole year setting it up.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
It's very smart.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Man.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
You mentioned pocket. That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, yeah, it's that that pocket. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
It was something that we were confident in, still love,
still confident in, still a part of the process, and
something that helped us to get to where we where
we are now.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yo.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
On top of the music, right, and not the brag,
but to inspire. Can you mention what you're invested in
as far as an investor goes, and what you've put
money into.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Yeah, My investments include h Khalifa, CUSH, p f L
excuse me, which is the Professional Fighters League, Liquid Death.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Death early Yeah, the early investor in Look with Death. Damn.
I know.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I'm forgetting something path out here, path pathwater. Uh no,
not not Pathwater. I have a mushroom company called mister
Caps as well. Yeah, I got you don't even trip
and I'm missing out on something.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
But yeah it's all good.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but I mean You don't have to
invest millions of dollars to make millions of dollars, Is
that right?
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah, that's correct. Yeah, you should, Uh, you should invest
what works for you at the time.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
And especially whatever wherever the company is at and how
much you're able to work for that company.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
When you invest.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
There's a difference between just putting money into it and
expecting it to blow up and then putting money into
it and actually helping the company grow. And each company
that I'm invested in, I have, you know, uh part
in helping that company grow, and it's based off of
my platform. It's based off of what I can do
(34:23):
physically in person, It's based off of you know, a
lot of other things that make me valuable to the
company as well. So when the company does do well,
that's where where my worth comes from. So it's not
because I invested millions of dollars in it, but it's
because I actually help it grow as a company over time.
(34:45):
And that's what you know, real business is all about.
If you're going to invest or Yeah, if you're gonna invest,
you're gonna help the company grow.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
You're going to be an asset to the company.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
You're not just putting money in something that you hope,
you know what I mean, fucking blows up one.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Day season, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah Yo.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Would you go to space if there was like a
celebrity journey?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Wouldn't get super duper fucking high and go to space?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I'm straight, I'm cool.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
I wonder why it only takes like forty five minutes
to get to space, but it takes seven hours to
get to.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Freaking you know, to crypto dot com.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. We gotta wear a
rocket at all. I know we're in a rocket and
all that.
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