February 3, 2026 • 30 mins
Ella Mai stopped by the Cruz Show to talk about her new album "Do you still love me" + she talks about her parenting break & how she balances her life & career. She also talked Astrology, J Cole., T-Pain, her kid's screen time and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 3 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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Speaker 4 (00:29):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
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you an let it have you say like that. Yeah,
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That's not that book chripping you you make so.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Cru shows back on the crew.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
No claps for that mix because that was incredible. Thank
you for that. Yes, absolutely took me back.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I'm glad you know. Honestly you're legitimately one of my
favorite arms of all time.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
So doing this all that's huge. That's huge.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you crazy for someone to
know the catalog, crazy to make it make sense right. Yes,
tell DJ Mustard on his head on it man shot
the Mustard of course, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
No, congratulations on life.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
I hear I hear you recall or or you call
this this this time span off a break. Yes, you
gave birth to a whole human that is taking a
break since you started.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but it like it was a ba
it was a break from music. We can say that
it took a little break from music and like lived
life a little bit.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
So that's right now making music out of life. Right, Yes, congratulations,
thank your son.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
What a what a what a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yes, it's it's incredible. I literally I've been speaking about it,
and I always say to people, I never want to
be the mom that's like, oh my son, my son,
my son, and like stuff stuff it down anyone's throat.
But it really is like a love that you really
will never find anywhere else. And I think everybody says
that before you have kids, Like if you don't have kids,
and people say that, you're like, okay, yeah, like I
get it, but like you, you really don't understand it
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until you have your own. It's beautiful.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
You looked Bay in the eyes. You know you well.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Actually one of our best friends actually toured with you
a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Tweet Oh I love tweet Yeah special right, Yes.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I love that personally And I'm not sure if you know,
but she's a new she is just gave birth and
you know, so what type of advice would you have
for you know, not only just moms in general, but
like moms who are in this industry, Like how do
you balance being a mom and also being an artist
at the same time.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, I actually shout out to Tweet. I just spoke
to her the other day. Actually we speak a lot
about motherhood together. But I'm actually only now my son
is one and a half and I'm now putting out
an album and going like really going back to work
and doing all the things. So I'm actually like kind
of figuring it out as I go along now, because
like while I was pregnant and when I first had him,
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I was recording this album, so he was like he
was with me, I was, I was doing all of that.
But now, like I have to get up and leave
sometimes and travel and do all the things. So I'm
kind of just figuring it out as I go along, honestly.
And I think that one thing I will say that
I'm super grateful for and that I couldn't do it
without as my village. Like everybody, it really we hear
that saying all the time, but like it really does
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every single grandparent, everyone like mom, dad, every like every
single person, Like, I am so grateful that I can
leave and not have to worry about whether he's okay,
if he's you know, if he's taken care of. I know,
anybody we leave him with. He is safe and he
is taken care of, and he's and he's like fed
and all those things. So I'm just really really grateful
because I wouldn't be able to do that as a
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mom without do this as a mom, sorry, and really
like focus on my career without the help of everybody
that's around me helping me. So yeah, I'm really grateful
for my village, like.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
A true mom. Right back to work, yes, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Right back to it, And I was really excited to
get back, honestly because it's also like it's my livelihood.
So I'm enjoying the duality of like being a musician
and an artist and putting out music but also being
able to like go home to my son and like
have unconditional.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
And as a parent, a new parent, you got to
give yourself grace, right Like we thought our parents had
it figured out. They didn't. They were learning as they
went as well, and.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
We all are like it really, even if you're even
if you're not a parent, or even if you are,
or even if anything, just as human beings, we are all.
Every day we get up and we're trying to figure
it out. Regardless of how successful you are or how.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
How much to figure out, we're all.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, we're trying to trying.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
To find our way, you know what I mean. These
two are finding their way. They're engaged, 're getting married, congratulations.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Also they're with each other twenty four hours a day.
Yeah yeah, yeah, Jackie's face, she's very happy about that.
I'm like, I need my space a little.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Something that speaking of, like, you know, the wedding and
us being engaged, I want to tell you that I've
been considering Little Things as one of the main.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Songs that makes me really happy because I just that song.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
I really feel like that's what's missing in music right now,
is tapping back into that femininity and is really being
oh my man, I want to do this for you.
I want to, like, I just those little things.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, the little things are are really important. And I
hope I hope that you continue with your consideration and
put me there in your love. That is, if you
came to the wedding. When do you guys get married?
This this is Oh it's okay, that's a bus that's
(06:26):
a busy time. Just send me the same day you
could put yeah, yeah, I'll put it.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
I'll put it on my friend your market. Eight minutes
into the interview, he asked, all right.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
If you listen, you missed one hundred percent of the
shots you don't take. So I but yeah, no, little
things really, and I think that people are coming back
around to it, and I think that there is a
lot more like love a girl, love a boy music
coming out at the moment, like love is love is
needed also right now more than anything. So yeah, I
just I've always loved to make love songs. I really
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really haven't. It is my bag, it is. I'm glad
that I was, But yeah, I'm just glad that everybody's
kind of getting back and I think it's always been there,
of course, but it's definitely coming back around. So yeah,
that's really all of what this album is about. It's
a love album for sure.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Yeah. You know, I look at the titles of the
songs right and now I'm like, okay, there's a journey
there of heartbreak. There's some some reality there, some love
and you know, just you're you're going through it through
the album, and I think putting that together, I think
you learned a lot from it, right.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
One hundred percent. I think it was like really kind
of like my life in real time, which is probably
the first time I've done that on an album. Like
all of my previous albums, my debut and my sophomore
were definitely my life, but it wasn't so much in
real time. And I think that I was really intentional
with this album for just like I just want to
go in the studio and have fun and write like
whatever comes to mind. And however I'm feeling to like
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to the point where I got to like a stage
in the process where I was like, all I've done
is written, like written love songs. I was like, we
need to spice it up a little bit. We need
to like remember, remind me I'm a scorpio for two seconds,
and like we do have the other side. Yeah, so no, no,
turn off the lights. Yeah, like let's let's let's let's yeah,
let's talk some talking here right now. But it was, yeah,
it was really fun, and I just like I didn't
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want to overthink it. I didn't want to like, oh
I have to do this, I have to make this.
I just really wanted to have fun with it and
have it be a safe space. And that's really what
I did. It was probably the the most fun I've
had in a recording.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Second.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Mentally, it's a very important place to be, right because
as you're taking this so called break, a break from music,
you start to hear and see other emerging artists come up,
and you're watching your peers working, and you probably think
to yourself, oh, I got to get back out there,
and you tend to rush yourself, or you could rush.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yourself, right, Yeah, I mean you can. I think that
I'm not. I'm a firm believer in like what's meant
for me is never going to miss me. And I
think i'm I think everybody should be a firm believer
in that, like, whatever is meant for you is not
going to miss you, like and I think a lot
of things. Sometimes a lot of times we don't really
understand timing that well because we feel like, oh my gosh,
it should like if I pay for something to come
(09:00):
out tomorrow, then it needs to come out tomorrow. Or
if I if I recorded this and I really wanted
to come out next week, then why can't it come
out next week? But like, everything happens for a reason.
I'm a big I'm a big believer in that. So
I think just be just trusting the process and trusting
yourself and knowing that it will make sense, like once
it makes sense, And that's kind of the place that
I'm in life. Also, I think I'm just like I'm
a lot older now than I was when I was
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recording my debut and my sophomore I'm a mom now,
like we were saying to my perspective is just you know,
like completely different. But ultimately, I just want to have fun.
I want to I want to remind myself of why
I started making music and why I love it, and
all everything else that comes with it is obviously a
bonus and is really great, and I'm always grateful for
all of that. But yeah, I just want to have
fun and be happy.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
If yeah, do you still love me? With the question mark?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Right?
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Yes? What's behind that title?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Oh? We played a lot on perspectives on this album, so,
like as you were saying, it kind of takes you
through a journey of a relationship, and I think that
perspectives in a relationship are really important because there's obviously
there's my perspective, there's your perspective.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
There's and then there's the truth.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Then there's the truth. But I think the question came
from really just like I could ask myself that question,
do you still love me? After after going through all
of these different motions, like do you still love yourself?
Like are you still showing up as your true self?
I could ask my partner do you still love me?
They could ask me, do you know? Do you still
love me? They can ask themselves like it's it was
(10:22):
a very big play on perspective while we were putting
this track list together, which is why we came up
with the album cover of looking through the blinds. And
when you look at the front cover, it's somebody looking
through the blinds at me. When you look at the
back cover, it's me looking through the blinds at me.
So we were kind of just playing on perspective and
and yeah, just the different perspectives of life. Like you know,
everybody has a different opinion, everybody has a different a
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different way that they view things. So I think that
it's a cool perspective on love coming from me, I.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Feel like also to that's such a scorpio question.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, it's just like do you still love me?
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Or do you like?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yes, it's life. Are you a Scorpio?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Actually two days apart, different years.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
But two days you're the first? Oh fifth, okay, okay, okay, yes,
oh yes, what are you?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
When's your birthday?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
March fourteen?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Oh that's like you know that's a great mis Yeah,
because we're both water signs. Yeah, well, I mean you
guys get married, so yes, dim are you're very particular?
I don't know if you're in Are you into? Are
you into zodiac signs?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Not so much?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
No, I mean it goes, it goes deeper than just
your just like your sun, sime, the moon rising, all
that stuff. So I know a lot of people are like, well,
how could everybody that's born in the in the month
of November be exactly the same? Like it goes, it
definitely goes its deeper than that. It definitely does go
deeper than that. Yeah, we're we are kind of similar. Yeah,
(11:50):
I will say it varies from uh for gender, Like
I think a scorpio woman is very different than a
Scorpio man. I will say that very different to November Scorpios.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
I will say that, Yeah, although Gemini women and men
are pretty much.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
The same, I don't agree with that. I don't agree
with that.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I mean, I'm sure they share qualities, Like Mustard is.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
A Gemini, so it's kendricks Park, right.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, but my grandmother is also a Gemini, and I
feel like she's not as like.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Your mom's not like Park.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
My grandma, my grandma, My grandma is definitely not. She
is a woman of the church. She is a minister. Yes, yes,
but yeah, no. The question, the question, it can be
very like closed. It can be yes or no, but
it could also be very open ended. And I think
that in the journey that I take everybody on through
this album, I think it's very apparent that, like, I'm
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experiencing different emotions. So I think it's important to kind
of reel it in and be like, okay, cool, where
are we at? I think it's a communication and an
understanding thing with that question. Yeah, yeah, where am I?
Where are you? Where are we?
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Like?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yes, definitely coming up.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Do you remember playing for like Bar Slash Kitchens and
Small Crowd.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, it was I actually.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Just performances, build your character.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, funny that you asked that, because I literally in December,
I just did a really small run called Did You
Miss Me? And it was right before I announced the album,
and it was the very first venues that I played
as a headliner by myself. So it was six dates.
We did three in Europe, three in the States. So
out here I did the Roxy because that was the
very first venue that I did, So that's like I
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think it's five hundred capacity, and then all the other
ones that I did were like it was between two
hundred and five hundred capacity for the six shows, and
everyone was like really mad at me because they're like
where are the tour days, Like nobody could get tickets,
Like why is this so small? But I really wanted
to do it because that was where I started, Like
those were the first shows I ever headlined by myself.
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There was like my first crowds and like first time
really like my name being on like really on outside
the venues. And I haven't performed in a while, yeah,
on the Marquie, So I couldn't find the word I
hadn't performed in a while. I've been gone for a while,
and I was just like I said to my agent,
I kind of want to like get my feet wet
a little bit and feel that again right before we
go into this album run. And so we did that.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
We were training.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Oh my god. But it was so it was so
special to be in such an intimate room and feel
so close to people, like it felt like I was
having a low key was having a conversation with people,
Like I could hear people like shouting out, oh can
you sing this? Can you sing that? Because I was
like taking it back to my old catalog, like all
the stuff that you were playing, And it was just
so special because I was like, Wow, this is exactly
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what I wanted it to be before I now embark
on this new era. Do you still love me? Kind
of just like also like a thank you to my
fans because I've been I've been in the industry for
ten years now, which is a long time. So to
still to you know, to take the breaks that I do,
and to have people still listening and still wanting to
come and see me and still just you know, be
a part of my world. I'm really really grateful.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
So important, I think to reach a certain level of
success or what you what you may deem as success
and to go back to those places they always say,
like go back to the places you used to cry at, yeah,
and win, win in those situations or win back in
those spaces.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
There's just like it just brings memories, I think, And
that's why music is also so important too, because I
think that music is attached to a lot of memories.
Like you can hear a song and it can take
you back to a place that you were, or a
scent or a person.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Like Yeah, I think is one of those songs really
that takes you back to you you know, you know
where you were at in life when that song.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
It's so crazy that that song is almost nine is
nine eight years old, I'm.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Sure where is time going and that song is still
that bitch?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I thank you?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I feel about t Pain doing his remix to bood Up.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I mean, there were so so many different, so many
different ones. I was just actually like at the time,
I was I don't even think I understood what was
really happening at the time because everything was happening so
quickly and like I'm a nighties baby. So I obviously
grew up on two thousands and twenty ten music, which
was like t Pain twenty ten. I feel like right
was around Tea Pains. It might even been a little
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bit before. So I was just kind of like, wow,
like you wanted to just put your own spin on it,
Like me as a ten year old would never you know,
or I don't even know how old I was, but like,
I was just honest that people really wanted to, like,
you know, do something with it, and especially there were
so many men that like loved the song, and I
always find that really interesting. I say to people, there's
always so many men at my show, and I make
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like full blown love songs, so I expect for it
to be I expect for it to be a lot
of women. But yeah, I'm just I'm just grateful that
people still want to listen.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Honestly, what song would you say, did you tap into
your most like scorpio energy for this album?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Might just I think it's track number nine, I think,
if I'm not mistaken, it's definitely it was the one.
It was the one. We actually, funnily enough recorded it
on Valentine's Day really, so so yeah, we did record
it on Valentine's Day, but it's definitely not a Valentine's song.
For sure, it's definitely a scorpio. It's definitely like a
hold on a second, we've been making too many love songs.
(16:56):
Let's tap into the other side. It's definitely scorpio. Yeah,
all my scorpios are definitely going to be like yeah,
this is yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
You know, when it comes to the production of the music, right,
like if we go back to Ready, a lot of
it was like one hundred bpm produced by Mustard, right,
and then when you go to like do You Still
Love Me and some of the newer records, like it's
Mustard slowing down the tempo like eighty maybe even like
the sixty range, Like what's it like trying to figure
out like you know, at that time, it's like you're
(17:26):
hopping on one hundred bpm beats. Now Mustard has to
produce like eighty sixty slower. Are there any challenges that
it comes when you produce or when you make records
with Mustard Lack?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I think I think it's actually fun because it's it's
almost like we have to we have to try harder,
you know, like the stuff that we were doing on
Ready and the one hundred bpm, like that's Mustard's bag yeah,
like that's where that's where he knows how to be.
And because I've worked with him for so long, that's
also like my first EPs, that's exactly where I knew
how to be. So to it's really fun to now
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try new things. And I think it speaks to is
his growth as a producer and also my growth as
an artist of just kind of like, we don't have
to be in this in this range, we could actually
do whatever we want. It doesn't even have to be
it could be completely what nobody expects. Yeah, we could,
we could do we Luckily we have the freedom and
we have each other to explore that with. The still
feel comfortable doing that. So I think it's just it's
(18:20):
a it can be a challenge, but I wouldn't ever
say it was it's a challenge that's like stressful. We
just have fun with it because there's no rules. That's
that's one thing that's great about art. There's no rules.
You can actually do what you want.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
So, yeah, that's great, that's fun. It's got to be
fun space to create you.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Can just yeah, you go in. And I kept telling
myself in this album process, especially I did. I listened
to Destiny's fulfilled by Destiney's Child, like almost this whole album.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Process got a writing credit, Well.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah, because the yes tell Her has the same my
name and tepulation yes her crazy, thank you, thank you,
And that was another one of the like the spicier ones.
But I think just like yeah, just being able to
go in and and I go into the studio with
like nothing, like think about it. I go into the
studio with nothing, and I come out with like sometimes
a full record, sometimes half a record, sometimes just an idea.
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But that's the beauty of it. And you have, like
I said, you have to trust the process and just
like really really you have to love what you do
also because otherwise it then just gets repetitive. And I
think that's in anything you do that that's not even
just music. But I just love to go in and
create something that I didn't have when I woke up
in the morning and be able to listen to it
in the night and be like, damn, this didn't even exist,
but now we have a whole new thing. And then
to watch it come together and like now be your
(19:32):
whole album and about to be everybody else's Like it's
not really mine anymore. It's about to be everyone else's.
It's just like it's it's an amazing feeling.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Your social media definitely helped your come up.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Oh yeah, it's my whole is my whole come up?
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
That's right, I was singing on Instagram.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Are we are we going to allow our kids to
watch YouTube and be on social media? So I'm not
that's a tough call.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
It is a tough call. I'm not an anti screen
time mom. I'm definitely not like, oh, you can't watch
TV like, but I definitely feel and I've I feel
like this in all aspects of anything. I think everything
in moderation is fine, Like I wouldn't you know, like
I think, I think, yeah, you just have to make
sure you're monitoring what's going on. And we know the
powers of the internet and how dangerous it can also be,
(20:13):
but it can also be really really good. It can
teach them a lot, like depending on what you know,
watch what they're watching. So I think just being able
to try and make sure I'm aware of exactly what
is on and what's being watched. But I'm not an
anti screen time mom. I don't think it's like super detrimental.
I grew up watching TV. We just my mom just
made sure it was in moderation, and let's make sure
(20:34):
you go outside and play. Let's make sure you have
social interactions with other kids and other people. And I
think that's like even goes for adults, Like we shouldn't
sit down and watch and have a bunch of screen
time and not go outside and touch grass or go
go meet our friends and go have a nice meal.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I think it's just like so.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Much content out, so many good shows, and there is
an there is.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
But there's also like great people in the world that
you can go and meet and go and speak to,
and great food that you can go and eat. So yeah,
I think just just moderation. I'm not anti screen time
at all, but moderation.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Are you with the people?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah, there are great people in as well.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
There are Do you think AI should be used in
moderation and music?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Cool? That is a That's a tough question. So I'm
still trying to figure out my opinion on AI music.
I don't feel like, yeah, I don't feel like I've
fully grasped the full concept or like fully grasp the
impact or the disadvantage that we now have as artists,
like I'm still trying to figure out my full opinion
(21:34):
on it. I don't think that a computer could ever
replace what humans can do and the real, that genuine,
authentic experience and feeling. But I am aware that, like
you know, we live in a technological age, and I
think that a lot of people were really scared when
the Internet came out, you know what I mean, And
so it's kind of just like a new thing that's there.
(21:55):
Do I think it will stand the test of time
the way that human music does, the way that you
can listen to Michael Jackson or Easy Years, Like, oh no,
absolutely know. But yeah, I'm still trying to figure out.
It's a weird one. It's a weird one, and.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
I still trying to figure it out. Yeah, I think
so too.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I can't say I'm like extach about it, Like, yeah,
I can't say I'm like super super interested in listening
to aar music. I'm not much. I would much prefer
to listen to real people in real life and real experience.
But yeah, I'm still trying to fin it's a weird one.
I feel weird about it.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Yeah, I'm excited for do you Love Me? Or do
you Still Love Me? I'm sorry because I think there's
real there's real emotion there, right, there's going to be
real life emotion. And I think R and B, like
you said, it's always been there, but there is that rise.
I think it's like real rap, yeah, is on its
way back back up as well. I think that real
R and B and that real rap.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I think real music in general is just really like
I think people are tired of listening to just like
stuff that doesn't really feel like, it doesn't have substance
people really want to.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Because if it doesn't connect, you're in trouble.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
That's the whole point of music, you feel me.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Yeah, so yeah, yeah, that's right. So if it doesn't connect,
it's here today, gone to mam.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I feel like saw that so much with the Grammys too,
is that R and B is back in such a
major way, and so it was like rap like Cruise
was saying, but R and B in itself like I'm
just so happy.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Me too. I'm I'm happy that Also, now no one's
really asking, oh, do you think R and B is dead? Dude?
Like I was so over that question. I was so
over that question. It's very very clear, especially if not
it has been clear, I think for a little while,
but like, if not now more than ever in terms
of this generation, this new generation of R and B, Like,
I don't think we will ever get nineties R and
(23:31):
B back because we're not in the nightties, you know
what I mean. Like, but we can appreciate that for
what it was and how how monumental and how much
it shaped most of our lives to be honest. But yeah,
I'm excited for R and B two. I'm excited for rap.
I'm excited for all music, but I like, of course,
you know R and B is is my favorite, So yeah,
I'm excited for it.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
You rap on, you wrap in the shower, I mean, actually.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Let me not lie. I like my manager will tell
you sometimes I'm like, oh, I think I can rap,
but like only if I'm rapping somebody else's song. There's
no way you could be like, all right, go free style.
I would be it would yeah, it would be giving ABC. No,
you guys already put me on the spot with Lama Lama,
so no, we know you have a go to rap song.
(24:19):
I have a couple, actually, I have a couple, and
I was actually just talking about J Cole because he's
dropping on the same day as me, And somebody was
asking me like, oh, how do you feel about that?
And I was like, what do you mean? How do
I feel all that? We're no, not even on that aspect,
Like I'm a huge Jay Cole fan, so like for me,
I was just like, oh my god, the fall Off
is finally coming out. We're getting new new Cole. Like
(24:41):
I was just really really excited, regardless of of the date.
But yeah, I have a few favorite rap songs, but
I'm not about to sit here and wrap them for
you because you guys are going to make fun of it. Okay,
So if I had to pick, oh, like ever like
all time.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Wow, top three, Top two, that's tough.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
This is like a karaoke Yeah, that's that's that is hard.
Top two. I don't even know where I would start,
Like who who would I think of? Who? I mean?
I guess I have to get the Fuji's and Lauren
hill in.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Yeah, I was gonna say like that nineties era was crazy,
the two thousands era was crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I think all of the eras that that that I
think about like that have been a part of my
lifetime have been pretty crazy and and very different. I
don't know what I would put as top two. That's
that's so much pressure. I can't like hard. I don't
even think I could pick a top two R and
B song, Like, there's just so much great music that
has meant different things to me at different times. I could, Yeah,
(25:41):
I don't know if I could tell you with a
top twoff, especially.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
You know you were you do music.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Okay, so let me ask you, guys, what would your
top two rap song?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Oh Jesus Christ, I got it.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I just wanted, like I I'm inang got it.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
My favorite rap song of all time is it's a cut.
It's called get Away by j Cole.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Okay, that's a good one.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
You know that one?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Right, that's your favorite favorite song of all time. That's
a big statement.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
But that's I'm saying. That's a big I get how
to get Away?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
What can I say?
Speaker 5 (26:11):
You're going to get judge no matter what your answer is.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I mean, yeah, I know. That's why I'm not going
to give you. I'm just like, no, it's tough.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
That's just.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
It's a testament to how much great music there is
on there.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Ye. I love what you did right there. You flipped
it on that. Yeah, yeah, your podcast coming radio interview
artists and and all that. For real, Do you still
love me? Drops on the six yes, right, yes, and
right in time for Valentine Valentine's Day. And it's that
(26:45):
it's that, it's that music that we need, I think,
and not on any music. I think it's the feeling,
yes that we need.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yes, Yes, it's crazy out here, Yeah it is, it
really is. And I think like music, like I said before,
music is one of the one things that brings everybody together.
I think that, like, even if you feel like you
don't relate to somebody as a person, you could like
the same song and then and that sparks a conversation.
I think that music is one of the only things
in the world that can do that. So yeah, we definitely,
we definitely need that feeling right now.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Fans name their babies after you yet that I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
That's a great question. I remember a couple of years
ago somebody telling me they named their dog after me,
which people really love. People really love their dogs, so
I wasn't offended. I was just like, I was like,
that's cool. Dogs are part of the family. Yeah, so
that was kind of cool. I don't know about babies.
That's a good question. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Hopefully,
I'm sure that would be amazing. Yeah, that would be amazing.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
That at home, I was like, hey, Google Play, l
m A and boot Up came up first, and then
Tevin Campbell can we talk? So for real? Candy Rain,
I was just like.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yo, Like what that's a great company. That is an
incredible company to be and I'm honored that Google. Google
did that them? Yeah, yeah, Google, Yes, Yes.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
How do people from LA sound to you?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I don't know. I think I'm used to it at
this point, you're used to it. Yeah, I think being
around Mustard and his family and his friends. I don't know.
I don't even think that you guys like sound different
when I.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Go back home, or people like you sound like an
American or No.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
My my day to day manager who's also English, she'll say,
sometimes I sound like I have a little bit of
a twang. But I also I went to high school
in New York, so I've spent I spent the same
amount of time now that I'm a thirty one year
old in America as I have in England, Like I've
spent half my life in England and half my life
in America, so I can understand where depending on who
I'm speaking to, Like if I speak to my mom,
I probably sound a little bit more British than when
(28:38):
I speak to Mustard, probably, And it's not something that
I'm cognizant of. It is just like I guess, it's
just what happens. But yeah, you guys, you just sound
like people. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
We all have accents, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I feel I feel like Southern people sound more life.
Yeah that's where I'm like, oh yeah, you you have
an accent. But like the coast, the coasts, I feel
like I don't really notice it that much.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Yeah, yeah, are you by? What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Flying?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I mean I'm everywhere. I'm here there and everywhere. I'm
in London, I'm over here, I'm on the East Coast,
I'm I'm wherever you can find me.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Congratulations, do you still love me? Drops on the six
It's gonna be amazing. It's an amazing drop And I
really love what you and Muster did with the phone
booth and the fans.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
That was very special.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, the phone has been the phone has been a
big part of the rollout, it being in the tell
Her video, and just even the perspective part of the
album was really cool. But also, like one thing I
think that's really important in journeys of relationship is communication,
and I think obviously the way that we all communicate
these days is through a phone, so we wanted to
incorporate also the communication aspect of it. And I've been
writing like these little journal entries on my website to
(29:48):
kind of explain each song, so just kind of also
taking the communication part of it, and that that pop
up was really fun. It was really hot outside, like
it was like a summer's day in LA and the
fans showed up for me, and they were really excited
to see me because they don't see me that often.
So thank you to everyone who came out and and
just really like was able to listen to a few
snippets of the album and some like me explaining a
(30:10):
few things and take pictures and just kind of like
feel that energy again. Right, That's that's the best part
of it. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
You get to walk up to you and talk to you,
get a pick like that's very special. Yeah, I'll remember
that forever. Yeah, and that's not something that that's something
that they feel and people never forget, how they never forget?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, and and and also for me, I think like
I don't ever forget those things either, because without people
listening and without people showing up, I wouldn't be able
to do what I love. So yeah, I'm excited. It's
a it's a great ram. I'm really happy.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
That's right. We're excited too, man, Let's go. Do you
still love me? Congratulations and all day?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, this is lam and you're checking out The Cruise
Show podcast. Make sure to subscribe, like, and share,
Oh my god, is that Nico blitz that she.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Doesn't sure's hurt fuck blay me no PEPs. She does.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Like me.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Kind of makes me want to sting kind of makes
me want to.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Go.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
That's sounding awake. Feel morning. Tell me how you foot it?
Come in, tell me I'll give it that never get
over because you went to the gave me had like
(00:52):
you an let it have you say like that. Yeah,
I'm gonna tried to make you like that Lego the book.
That's not that book chripping you you make so.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Cru shows back on the crew.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
No claps for that mix because that was incredible. Thank
you for that. Yes, absolutely took me back.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I'm glad you know. Honestly you're legitimately one of my
favorite arms of all time.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
So doing this all that's huge. That's huge.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you crazy for someone to
know the catalog, crazy to make it make sense right. Yes,
tell DJ Mustard on his head on it man shot
the Mustard of course, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
No, congratulations on life.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
I hear I hear you recall or or you call
this this this time span off a break. Yes, you
gave birth to a whole human that is taking a
break since you started.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but it like it was a ba
it was a break from music. We can say that
it took a little break from music and like lived
life a little bit.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
So that's right now making music out of life. Right, Yes, congratulations,
thank your son.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
What a what a what a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yes, it's it's incredible. I literally I've been speaking about it,
and I always say to people, I never want to
be the mom that's like, oh my son, my son,
my son, and like stuff stuff it down anyone's throat.
But it really is like a love that you really
will never find anywhere else. And I think everybody says
that before you have kids, Like if you don't have kids,
and people say that, you're like, okay, yeah, like I
get it, but like you, you really don't understand it
(02:55):
until you have your own. It's beautiful.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
You looked Bay in the eyes. You know you well.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Actually one of our best friends actually toured with you
a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Tweet Oh I love tweet Yeah special right, Yes.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I love that personally And I'm not sure if you know,
but she's a new she is just gave birth and
you know, so what type of advice would you have
for you know, not only just moms in general, but
like moms who are in this industry, Like how do
you balance being a mom and also being an artist
at the same time.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, I actually shout out to Tweet. I just spoke
to her the other day. Actually we speak a lot
about motherhood together. But I'm actually only now my son
is one and a half and I'm now putting out
an album and going like really going back to work
and doing all the things. So I'm actually like kind
of figuring it out as I go along now, because
like while I was pregnant and when I first had him,
(03:48):
I was recording this album, so he was like he
was with me, I was, I was doing all of that.
But now, like I have to get up and leave
sometimes and travel and do all the things. So I'm
kind of just figuring it out as I go along, honestly.
And I think that one thing I will say that
I'm super grateful for and that I couldn't do it
without as my village. Like everybody, it really we hear
that saying all the time, but like it really does
(04:11):
every single grandparent, everyone like mom, dad, every like every
single person, Like, I am so grateful that I can
leave and not have to worry about whether he's okay,
if he's you know, if he's taken care of. I know,
anybody we leave him with. He is safe and he
is taken care of, and he's and he's like fed
and all those things. So I'm just really really grateful
because I wouldn't be able to do that as a
(04:33):
mom without do this as a mom, sorry, and really
like focus on my career without the help of everybody
that's around me helping me. So yeah, I'm really grateful
for my village, like.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
A true mom. Right back to work, yes, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Right back to it, And I was really excited to
get back, honestly because it's also like it's my livelihood.
So I'm enjoying the duality of like being a musician
and an artist and putting out music but also being
able to like go home to my son and like
have unconditional.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
And as a parent, a new parent, you got to
give yourself grace, right Like we thought our parents had
it figured out. They didn't. They were learning as they
went as well, and.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
We all are like it really, even if you're even
if you're not a parent, or even if you are,
or even if anything, just as human beings, we are all.
Every day we get up and we're trying to figure
it out. Regardless of how successful you are or how.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
How much to figure out, we're all.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, we're trying to trying.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
To find our way, you know what I mean. These
two are finding their way. They're engaged, 're getting married, congratulations.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Also they're with each other twenty four hours a day.
Yeah yeah, yeah, Jackie's face, she's very happy about that.
I'm like, I need my space a little.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Something that speaking of, like, you know, the wedding and
us being engaged, I want to tell you that I've
been considering Little Things as one of the main.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Songs that makes me really happy because I just that song.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
I really feel like that's what's missing in music right now,
is tapping back into that femininity and is really being
oh my man, I want to do this for you.
I want to, like, I just those little things.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, the little things are are really important. And I
hope I hope that you continue with your consideration and
put me there in your love. That is, if you
came to the wedding. When do you guys get married?
This this is Oh it's okay, that's a bus that's
(06:26):
a busy time. Just send me the same day you
could put yeah, yeah, I'll put it.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
I'll put it on my friend your market. Eight minutes
into the interview, he asked, all right.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
If you listen, you missed one hundred percent of the
shots you don't take. So I but yeah, no, little
things really, and I think that people are coming back
around to it, and I think that there is a
lot more like love a girl, love a boy music
coming out at the moment, like love is love is
needed also right now more than anything. So yeah, I
just I've always loved to make love songs. I really
(06:55):
really haven't. It is my bag, it is. I'm glad
that I was, But yeah, I'm just glad that everybody's
kind of getting back and I think it's always been there,
of course, but it's definitely coming back around. So yeah,
that's really all of what this album is about. It's
a love album for sure.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Yeah. You know, I look at the titles of the
songs right and now I'm like, okay, there's a journey
there of heartbreak. There's some some reality there, some love
and you know, just you're you're going through it through
the album, and I think putting that together, I think
you learned a lot from it, right.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
One hundred percent. I think it was like really kind
of like my life in real time, which is probably
the first time I've done that on an album. Like
all of my previous albums, my debut and my sophomore
were definitely my life, but it wasn't so much in
real time. And I think that I was really intentional
with this album for just like I just want to
go in the studio and have fun and write like
whatever comes to mind. And however I'm feeling to like
(07:51):
to the point where I got to like a stage
in the process where I was like, all I've done
is written, like written love songs. I was like, we
need to spice it up a little bit. We need
to like remember, remind me I'm a scorpio for two seconds,
and like we do have the other side. Yeah, so no, no,
turn off the lights. Yeah, like let's let's let's let's yeah,
let's talk some talking here right now. But it was, yeah,
it was really fun, and I just like I didn't
(08:12):
want to overthink it. I didn't want to like, oh
I have to do this, I have to make this.
I just really wanted to have fun with it and
have it be a safe space. And that's really what
I did. It was probably the the most fun I've
had in a recording.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Second.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Mentally, it's a very important place to be, right because
as you're taking this so called break, a break from music,
you start to hear and see other emerging artists come up,
and you're watching your peers working, and you probably think
to yourself, oh, I got to get back out there,
and you tend to rush yourself, or you could rush.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yourself, right, Yeah, I mean you can. I think that
I'm not. I'm a firm believer in like what's meant
for me is never going to miss me. And I
think i'm I think everybody should be a firm believer
in that, like, whatever is meant for you is not
going to miss you, like and I think a lot
of things. Sometimes a lot of times we don't really
understand timing that well because we feel like, oh my gosh,
it should like if I pay for something to come
(09:00):
out tomorrow, then it needs to come out tomorrow. Or
if I if I recorded this and I really wanted
to come out next week, then why can't it come
out next week? But like, everything happens for a reason.
I'm a big I'm a big believer in that. So
I think just be just trusting the process and trusting
yourself and knowing that it will make sense, like once
it makes sense, And that's kind of the place that
I'm in life. Also, I think I'm just like I'm
a lot older now than I was when I was
(09:21):
recording my debut and my sophomore I'm a mom now,
like we were saying to my perspective is just you know,
like completely different. But ultimately, I just want to have fun.
I want to I want to remind myself of why
I started making music and why I love it, and
all everything else that comes with it is obviously a
bonus and is really great, and I'm always grateful for
all of that. But yeah, I just want to have
fun and be happy.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
If yeah, do you still love me? With the question mark?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Right?
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Yes? What's behind that title?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Oh? We played a lot on perspectives on this album, so,
like as you were saying, it kind of takes you
through a journey of a relationship, and I think that
perspectives in a relationship are really important because there's obviously
there's my perspective, there's your perspective.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
There's and then there's the truth.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Then there's the truth. But I think the question came
from really just like I could ask myself that question,
do you still love me? After after going through all
of these different motions, like do you still love yourself?
Like are you still showing up as your true self?
I could ask my partner do you still love me?
They could ask me, do you know? Do you still
love me? They can ask themselves like it's it was
(10:22):
a very big play on perspective while we were putting
this track list together, which is why we came up
with the album cover of looking through the blinds. And
when you look at the front cover, it's somebody looking
through the blinds at me. When you look at the
back cover, it's me looking through the blinds at me.
So we were kind of just playing on perspective and
and yeah, just the different perspectives of life. Like you know,
everybody has a different opinion, everybody has a different a
(10:45):
different way that they view things. So I think that
it's a cool perspective on love coming from me, I.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Feel like also to that's such a scorpio question.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, it's just like do you still love me?
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Or do you like?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yes, it's life. Are you a Scorpio?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Actually two days apart, different years.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
But two days you're the first? Oh fifth, okay, okay, okay, yes,
oh yes, what are you?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
When's your birthday?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
March fourteen?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Oh that's like you know that's a great mis Yeah,
because we're both water signs. Yeah, well, I mean you
guys get married, so yes, dim are you're very particular?
I don't know if you're in Are you into? Are
you into zodiac signs?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Not so much?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
No, I mean it goes, it goes deeper than just
your just like your sun, sime, the moon rising, all
that stuff. So I know a lot of people are like, well,
how could everybody that's born in the in the month
of November be exactly the same? Like it goes, it
definitely goes its deeper than that. It definitely does go
deeper than that. Yeah, we're we are kind of similar. Yeah,
(11:50):
I will say it varies from uh for gender, Like
I think a scorpio woman is very different than a
Scorpio man. I will say that very different to November Scorpios.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
I will say that, Yeah, although Gemini women and men
are pretty much.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
The same, I don't agree with that. I don't agree
with that.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I mean, I'm sure they share qualities, Like Mustard is.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
A Gemini, so it's kendricks Park, right.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, but my grandmother is also a Gemini, and I
feel like she's not as like.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Your mom's not like Park.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
My grandma, my grandma, My grandma is definitely not. She
is a woman of the church. She is a minister. Yes, yes,
but yeah, no. The question, the question, it can be
very like closed. It can be yes or no, but
it could also be very open ended. And I think
that in the journey that I take everybody on through
this album, I think it's very apparent that, like, I'm
(12:42):
experiencing different emotions. So I think it's important to kind
of reel it in and be like, okay, cool, where
are we at? I think it's a communication and an
understanding thing with that question. Yeah, yeah, where am I?
Where are you? Where are we?
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Like?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yes, definitely coming up.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Do you remember playing for like Bar Slash Kitchens and
Small Crowd.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, it was I actually.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Just performances, build your character.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, funny that you asked that, because I literally in December,
I just did a really small run called Did You
Miss Me? And it was right before I announced the album,
and it was the very first venues that I played
as a headliner by myself. So it was six dates.
We did three in Europe, three in the States. So
out here I did the Roxy because that was the
very first venue that I did, So that's like I
(13:26):
think it's five hundred capacity, and then all the other
ones that I did were like it was between two
hundred and five hundred capacity for the six shows, and
everyone was like really mad at me because they're like
where are the tour days, Like nobody could get tickets,
Like why is this so small? But I really wanted
to do it because that was where I started, Like
those were the first shows I ever headlined by myself.
(13:46):
There was like my first crowds and like first time
really like my name being on like really on outside
the venues. And I haven't performed in a while, yeah,
on the Marquie, So I couldn't find the word I
hadn't performed in a while. I've been gone for a while,
and I was just like I said to my agent,
I kind of want to like get my feet wet
a little bit and feel that again right before we
go into this album run. And so we did that.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
We were training.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Oh my god. But it was so it was so
special to be in such an intimate room and feel
so close to people, like it felt like I was
having a low key was having a conversation with people,
Like I could hear people like shouting out, oh can
you sing this? Can you sing that? Because I was
like taking it back to my old catalog, like all
the stuff that you were playing, And it was just
so special because I was like, Wow, this is exactly
(14:28):
what I wanted it to be before I now embark
on this new era. Do you still love me? Kind
of just like also like a thank you to my
fans because I've been I've been in the industry for
ten years now, which is a long time. So to
still to you know, to take the breaks that I do,
and to have people still listening and still wanting to
come and see me and still just you know, be
a part of my world. I'm really really grateful.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
So important, I think to reach a certain level of
success or what you what you may deem as success
and to go back to those places they always say,
like go back to the places you used to cry at, yeah,
and win, win in those situations or win back in
those spaces.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
There's just like it just brings memories, I think, And
that's why music is also so important too, because I
think that music is attached to a lot of memories.
Like you can hear a song and it can take
you back to a place that you were, or a
scent or a person.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Like Yeah, I think is one of those songs really
that takes you back to you you know, you know
where you were at in life when that song.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
It's so crazy that that song is almost nine is
nine eight years old, I'm.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Sure where is time going and that song is still
that bitch?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I thank you?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I feel about t Pain doing his remix to bood Up.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I mean, there were so so many different, so many
different ones. I was just actually like at the time,
I was I don't even think I understood what was
really happening at the time because everything was happening so
quickly and like I'm a nighties baby. So I obviously
grew up on two thousands and twenty ten music, which
was like t Pain twenty ten. I feel like right
was around Tea Pains. It might even been a little
(15:59):
bit before. So I was just kind of like, wow,
like you wanted to just put your own spin on it,
Like me as a ten year old would never you know,
or I don't even know how old I was, but like,
I was just honest that people really wanted to, like,
you know, do something with it, and especially there were
so many men that like loved the song, and I
always find that really interesting. I say to people, there's
always so many men at my show, and I make
(16:19):
like full blown love songs, so I expect for it
to be I expect for it to be a lot
of women. But yeah, I'm just I'm just grateful that
people still want to listen.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Honestly, what song would you say, did you tap into
your most like scorpio energy for this album?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Might just I think it's track number nine, I think,
if I'm not mistaken, it's definitely it was the one.
It was the one. We actually, funnily enough recorded it
on Valentine's Day really, so so yeah, we did record
it on Valentine's Day, but it's definitely not a Valentine's song.
For sure, it's definitely a scorpio. It's definitely like a
hold on a second, we've been making too many love songs.
(16:56):
Let's tap into the other side. It's definitely scorpio. Yeah,
all my scorpios are definitely going to be like yeah,
this is yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
You know, when it comes to the production of the music, right,
like if we go back to Ready, a lot of
it was like one hundred bpm produced by Mustard, right,
and then when you go to like do You Still
Love Me and some of the newer records, like it's
Mustard slowing down the tempo like eighty maybe even like
the sixty range, Like what's it like trying to figure
out like you know, at that time, it's like you're
(17:26):
hopping on one hundred bpm beats. Now Mustard has to
produce like eighty sixty slower. Are there any challenges that
it comes when you produce or when you make records
with Mustard Lack?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I think I think it's actually fun because it's it's
almost like we have to we have to try harder,
you know, like the stuff that we were doing on
Ready and the one hundred bpm, like that's Mustard's bag yeah,
like that's where that's where he knows how to be.
And because I've worked with him for so long, that's
also like my first EPs, that's exactly where I knew
how to be. So to it's really fun to now
(17:58):
try new things. And I think it speaks to is
his growth as a producer and also my growth as
an artist of just kind of like, we don't have
to be in this in this range, we could actually
do whatever we want. It doesn't even have to be
it could be completely what nobody expects. Yeah, we could,
we could do we Luckily we have the freedom and
we have each other to explore that with. The still
feel comfortable doing that. So I think it's just it's
(18:20):
a it can be a challenge, but I wouldn't ever
say it was it's a challenge that's like stressful. We
just have fun with it because there's no rules. That's
that's one thing that's great about art. There's no rules.
You can actually do what you want.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
So, yeah, that's great, that's fun. It's got to be
fun space to create you.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Can just yeah, you go in. And I kept telling
myself in this album process, especially I did. I listened
to Destiny's fulfilled by Destiney's Child, like almost this whole album.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Process got a writing credit, Well.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah, because the yes tell Her has the same my
name and tepulation yes her crazy, thank you, thank you,
And that was another one of the like the spicier ones.
But I think just like yeah, just being able to
go in and and I go into the studio with
like nothing, like think about it. I go into the
studio with nothing, and I come out with like sometimes
a full record, sometimes half a record, sometimes just an idea.
(19:10):
But that's the beauty of it. And you have, like
I said, you have to trust the process and just
like really really you have to love what you do
also because otherwise it then just gets repetitive. And I
think that's in anything you do that that's not even
just music. But I just love to go in and
create something that I didn't have when I woke up
in the morning and be able to listen to it
in the night and be like, damn, this didn't even exist,
but now we have a whole new thing. And then
to watch it come together and like now be your
(19:32):
whole album and about to be everybody else's Like it's
not really mine anymore. It's about to be everyone else's.
It's just like it's it's an amazing feeling.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Your social media definitely helped your come up.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Oh yeah, it's my whole is my whole come up?
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
That's right, I was singing on Instagram.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Are we are we going to allow our kids to
watch YouTube and be on social media? So I'm not
that's a tough call.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
It is a tough call. I'm not an anti screen
time mom. I'm definitely not like, oh, you can't watch
TV like, but I definitely feel and I've I feel
like this in all aspects of anything. I think everything
in moderation is fine, Like I wouldn't you know, like
I think, I think, yeah, you just have to make
sure you're monitoring what's going on. And we know the
powers of the internet and how dangerous it can also be,
(20:13):
but it can also be really really good. It can
teach them a lot, like depending on what you know,
watch what they're watching. So I think just being able
to try and make sure I'm aware of exactly what
is on and what's being watched. But I'm not an
anti screen time mom. I don't think it's like super detrimental.
I grew up watching TV. We just my mom just
made sure it was in moderation, and let's make sure
(20:34):
you go outside and play. Let's make sure you have
social interactions with other kids and other people. And I
think that's like even goes for adults, Like we shouldn't
sit down and watch and have a bunch of screen
time and not go outside and touch grass or go
go meet our friends and go have a nice meal.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I think it's just like so.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Much content out, so many good shows, and there is
an there is.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
But there's also like great people in the world that
you can go and meet and go and speak to,
and great food that you can go and eat. So yeah,
I think just just moderation. I'm not anti screen time
at all, but moderation.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Are you with the people?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah, there are great people in as well.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
There are Do you think AI should be used in
moderation and music?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Cool? That is a That's a tough question. So I'm
still trying to figure out my opinion on AI music.
I don't feel like, yeah, I don't feel like I've
fully grasped the full concept or like fully grasp the
impact or the disadvantage that we now have as artists,
like I'm still trying to figure out my full opinion
(21:34):
on it. I don't think that a computer could ever
replace what humans can do and the real, that genuine,
authentic experience and feeling. But I am aware that, like
you know, we live in a technological age, and I
think that a lot of people were really scared when
the Internet came out, you know what I mean, And
so it's kind of just like a new thing that's there.
(21:55):
Do I think it will stand the test of time
the way that human music does, the way that you
can listen to Michael Jackson or Easy Years, Like, oh no,
absolutely know. But yeah, I'm still trying to figure out.
It's a weird one. It's a weird one, and.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
I still trying to figure it out. Yeah, I think
so too.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I can't say I'm like extach about it, Like, yeah,
I can't say I'm like super super interested in listening
to aar music. I'm not much. I would much prefer
to listen to real people in real life and real experience.
But yeah, I'm still trying to fin it's a weird one.
I feel weird about it.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Yeah, I'm excited for do you Love Me? Or do
you Still Love Me? I'm sorry because I think there's
real there's real emotion there, right, there's going to be
real life emotion. And I think R and B, like
you said, it's always been there, but there is that rise.
I think it's like real rap, yeah, is on its
way back back up as well. I think that real
R and B and that real rap.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I think real music in general is just really like
I think people are tired of listening to just like
stuff that doesn't really feel like, it doesn't have substance
people really want to.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Because if it doesn't connect, you're in trouble.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
That's the whole point of music, you feel me.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Yeah, so yeah, yeah, that's right. So if it doesn't connect,
it's here today, gone to mam.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I feel like saw that so much with the Grammys too,
is that R and B is back in such a
major way, and so it was like rap like Cruise
was saying, but R and B in itself like I'm
just so happy.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Me too. I'm I'm happy that Also, now no one's
really asking, oh, do you think R and B is dead? Dude?
Like I was so over that question. I was so
over that question. It's very very clear, especially if not
it has been clear, I think for a little while,
but like, if not now more than ever in terms
of this generation, this new generation of R and B, Like,
I don't think we will ever get nineties R and
(23:31):
B back because we're not in the nightties, you know
what I mean. Like, but we can appreciate that for
what it was and how how monumental and how much
it shaped most of our lives to be honest. But yeah,
I'm excited for R and B two. I'm excited for rap.
I'm excited for all music, but I like, of course,
you know R and B is is my favorite, So yeah,
I'm excited for it.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
You rap on, you wrap in the shower, I mean, actually.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Let me not lie. I like my manager will tell
you sometimes I'm like, oh, I think I can rap,
but like only if I'm rapping somebody else's song. There's
no way you could be like, all right, go free style.
I would be it would yeah, it would be giving ABC. No,
you guys already put me on the spot with Lama Lama,
so no, we know you have a go to rap song.
(24:19):
I have a couple, actually, I have a couple, and
I was actually just talking about J Cole because he's
dropping on the same day as me, And somebody was
asking me like, oh, how do you feel about that?
And I was like, what do you mean? How do
I feel all that? We're no, not even on that aspect,
Like I'm a huge Jay Cole fan, so like for me,
I was just like, oh my god, the fall Off
is finally coming out. We're getting new new Cole. Like
(24:41):
I was just really really excited, regardless of of the date.
But yeah, I have a few favorite rap songs, but
I'm not about to sit here and wrap them for
you because you guys are going to make fun of it. Okay,
So if I had to pick, oh, like ever like
all time.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Wow, top three, Top two, that's tough.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
This is like a karaoke Yeah, that's that's that is hard.
Top two. I don't even know where I would start,
Like who who would I think of? Who? I mean?
I guess I have to get the Fuji's and Lauren
hill in.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Yeah, I was gonna say like that nineties era was crazy,
the two thousands era was crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I think all of the eras that that that I
think about like that have been a part of my
lifetime have been pretty crazy and and very different. I
don't know what I would put as top two. That's
that's so much pressure. I can't like hard. I don't
even think I could pick a top two R and
B song, Like, there's just so much great music that
has meant different things to me at different times. I could, Yeah,
(25:41):
I don't know if I could tell you with a
top twoff, especially.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
You know you were you do music.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Okay, so let me ask you, guys, what would your
top two rap song?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Oh Jesus Christ, I got it.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I just wanted, like I I'm inang got it.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
My favorite rap song of all time is it's a cut.
It's called get Away by j Cole.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Okay, that's a good one.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
You know that one?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Right, that's your favorite favorite song of all time. That's
a big statement.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
But that's I'm saying. That's a big I get how
to get Away?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
What can I say?
Speaker 5 (26:11):
You're going to get judge no matter what your answer is.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I mean, yeah, I know. That's why I'm not going
to give you. I'm just like, no, it's tough.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
That's just.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
It's a testament to how much great music there is
on there.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Ye. I love what you did right there. You flipped
it on that. Yeah, yeah, your podcast coming radio interview
artists and and all that. For real, Do you still
love me? Drops on the six yes, right, yes, and
right in time for Valentine Valentine's Day. And it's that
(26:45):
it's that, it's that music that we need, I think,
and not on any music. I think it's the feeling,
yes that we need.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yes, Yes, it's crazy out here, Yeah it is, it
really is. And I think like music, like I said before,
music is one of the one things that brings everybody together.
I think that, like, even if you feel like you
don't relate to somebody as a person, you could like
the same song and then and that sparks a conversation.
I think that music is one of the only things
in the world that can do that. So yeah, we definitely,
we definitely need that feeling right now.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Fans name their babies after you yet that I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
That's a great question. I remember a couple of years
ago somebody telling me they named their dog after me,
which people really love. People really love their dogs, so
I wasn't offended. I was just like, I was like,
that's cool. Dogs are part of the family. Yeah, so
that was kind of cool. I don't know about babies.
That's a good question. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Hopefully,
I'm sure that would be amazing. Yeah, that would be amazing.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
That at home, I was like, hey, Google Play, l
m A and boot Up came up first, and then
Tevin Campbell can we talk? So for real? Candy Rain,
I was just like.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yo, Like what that's a great company. That is an
incredible company to be and I'm honored that Google. Google
did that them? Yeah, yeah, Google, Yes, Yes.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
How do people from LA sound to you?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I don't know. I think I'm used to it at
this point, you're used to it. Yeah, I think being
around Mustard and his family and his friends. I don't know.
I don't even think that you guys like sound different
when I.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Go back home, or people like you sound like an
American or No.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
My my day to day manager who's also English, she'll say,
sometimes I sound like I have a little bit of
a twang. But I also I went to high school
in New York, so I've spent I spent the same
amount of time now that I'm a thirty one year
old in America as I have in England, Like I've
spent half my life in England and half my life
in America, so I can understand where depending on who
I'm speaking to, Like if I speak to my mom,
I probably sound a little bit more British than when
(28:38):
I speak to Mustard, probably, And it's not something that
I'm cognizant of. It is just like I guess, it's
just what happens. But yeah, you guys, you just sound
like people. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
We all have accents, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I feel I feel like Southern people sound more life.
Yeah that's where I'm like, oh yeah, you you have
an accent. But like the coast, the coasts, I feel
like I don't really notice it that much.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Yeah, yeah, are you by? What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Flying?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I mean I'm everywhere. I'm here there and everywhere. I'm
in London, I'm over here, I'm on the East Coast,
I'm I'm wherever you can find me.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Congratulations, do you still love me? Drops on the six
It's gonna be amazing. It's an amazing drop And I
really love what you and Muster did with the phone
booth and the fans.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
That was very special.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, the phone has been the phone has been a
big part of the rollout, it being in the tell
Her video, and just even the perspective part of the
album was really cool. But also, like one thing I
think that's really important in journeys of relationship is communication,
and I think obviously the way that we all communicate
these days is through a phone, so we wanted to
incorporate also the communication aspect of it. And I've been
writing like these little journal entries on my website to
(29:48):
kind of explain each song, so just kind of also
taking the communication part of it, and that that pop
up was really fun. It was really hot outside, like
it was like a summer's day in LA and the
fans showed up for me, and they were really excited
to see me because they don't see me that often.
So thank you to everyone who came out and and
just really like was able to listen to a few
snippets of the album and some like me explaining a
(30:10):
few things and take pictures and just kind of like
feel that energy again. Right, That's that's the best part
of it. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
You get to walk up to you and talk to you,
get a pick like that's very special. Yeah, I'll remember
that forever. Yeah, and that's not something that that's something
that they feel and people never forget, how they never forget?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, and and and also for me, I think like
I don't ever forget those things either, because without people
listening and without people showing up, I wouldn't be able
to do what I love. So yeah, I'm excited. It's
a it's a great ram. I'm really happy.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
That's right. We're excited too, man, Let's go. Do you
still love me? Congratulations and all day?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, this is lam and you're checking out The Cruise
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