May 27, 2026 • 42 mins
Swerve Strickland came by the Cruz Show to talk about this new music with Max B, Raekwon & more + his AEW wrestling career, acting and so much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's good, it's good? What ups must and you're checking
out the Cruise Show podcast? Subscribe right, Who's house? Let's
go man on the Cruise Show. What you Man? First off,
it's awesome to be back in l A. It is
like probably one of my favorite cities. L A and Seattle.
(00:21):
I love the West Coast La Seattle. Those are two
totally different places. No, l A Seattle. You know, geographically, yes,
but also like the culturalized to what saying, isn't it
very cold and damp out there in Seattle? Or it
can be? I never can't. You can bet you've been there.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah. Yeah, one of my stars are like super hot.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
You're one of my favorite places too.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It's also the downtowns are like super nice and clean,
but there's some you know, some sketch. Yeah, that's good
to hear. They probably got some fire. Restaurants get amazing.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
It's surprisingly good. Mexican food bro in Seattle.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yes, I've had over there always like the Japanese and
karaokey food and stuff like that everywhere there you go.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
That part of the diet is protein, green water.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
To get as clean as I can when you're on
the road.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Jesus exactly on the road. I mean, what's open McDonald's,
Burger King Taco.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Especially when you're like finished, like any type of event,
that's all that's open and you're hungry. So what do
we do? Were you packing like right before, right before
everything shuts down the evening times? Yep? Yeah, maybe a
meal prep maybe?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I'm not disciplined enough for it, I know.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
And you're not disciplined. You know, you have to be
in your field. Yeah, but like a lot of other
you can't have everything. That kind of discipline would rive
be crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You have the fun. That's where something has to flow free.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
No, that's right.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, That's that's why we see like Tom Brady when
he won that last championship go Ham yeah, and throwing
the trophy and he's like, I don't got to answer
to nobody is over because he's so super disciplined right
like the whole year and he just let loose.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
So in those kinds of guys, when you guys let loose, y'all,
let loose pause like y'all.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I actually when I let loose is just being home.
I like I go like very like ground level. That's
what I'm always like this this this yep, and you
feel like you always have to have the trigger, you know,
the switch on.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Nah yeah, yeah with the bright lights and all the noise,
the dark room must be soothing.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Oh I love it.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, closed curtains. They're like, why is it so dark
in here? I'm like, leave my leave me alone. That's
why I'm swaying right now. Don't talk to me.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Yes, I'm in here in the dark, vibing with my
own thoughts.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It's the great vibration, that's not That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Man. Aw, how things going? Aw, everything's been going like amazing,
fantastic rising time. You know. Me and Kenny Omega was
going at it last year, you know, and that's like
a goat that always wanted to like have our one
on one with We had like oh really yeah, Like
that was our first ever singles in Sacramento this year February.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
So we had a six man tag like years.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Ago with the Bucks in twenty fifteen in the UK
when they were doing their first tour to yeah as
the Elite. Yeah, you know, which is crazy because the
league goes way back to twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, so
that's but it's crazy that they have been together that long.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
That's how much of a legacy.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
That's where they get to a yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, yep,
that's so crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
He's like, and so me and him finally like we're
at the peak of our careers and our like prime,
Like we're like, yo, this is the time to do
it right now. So that's like twenty twenty six. That's
why I felt like I offered the wrestling world in
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
So far, what state town city has the best audience?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Would you say? Seattle? Just that's a hurt feelings, but yeah,
well everybody's lit, right, but like yeah, there's a lot
of ones, but like you know, that's the hometown bias.
Like that's literally like where who's house wrest House came from,
that's right, and like Washington Hall and Defy Wrestling. You know,
me and Cody Roads were the first main event there. Wow,
So it's like that's wild because we both both became
(03:56):
the world champions for w W and AW at the
same time. Yeah, that's start in Seattle and define when
that was the first main event the only time we've
ever wrestled, So it's like they've made a prediction ten
years into the future. Wow you know yeah, bro, Yeah,
so literally like speaking into existence like that, Like I
didn't really like understand that growing up. Everybody always talks
(04:18):
about that and people have lived that. Now I'm like, wow,
that really happened. That really really happened. Yeah, man, I
saw it. Yeah I believed it, and now I believe
it now now I do. But it's like speaking existence like, oh,
that's that's always a nice thing to say to keep
people motivating.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
It sounds good right right now, but it's true, it's.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
True, it can really happen.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I think the one thing about wrestling fans just in
general too, they appreciate the grind, right you said ten
years and yeah you said it kind of lightly, but
it's ten years and year, you know, and like I think,
you know, a lot of people have some bid in
another sports. It's not that way like they expect you
to go from Duke to the NBA and be great
right away. Yeah, you know, but like wrestling, they understand
(05:01):
the grind and and and to get from you know,
like you said in Seattle to that point to ten
years later. And I appreciate that. I'm a fan, but
I know all wrestling fans feel.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
They appreciate they walk with it. Yeah, they they like
it's like they walk with and they feel like they
walked in the same like steps that you did. You know.
It's always so emotional, right, they have an emotional tidy.
It's like watching the NFL team go from like the
draft picked like now, going through the hard times to
(05:31):
building up to finally like year seven, you're eight getting
to the super Bowl, the playoffs, the whole Jordan took
eight years to get to the finals. You know, he
went through a lot of hardships, but you rode with
them all the way through, you know. So they especially
when they have the hometown attachment to you, they yeah, yeah,
and like, uh, that's why certain cities are very important.
(05:52):
Like I did this in this city, I won in
this CD, I lost this in this city. You were there,
and then like now each city kind of can they
feel like they have a connection to you some time
you come back. LA has a big connection because that's
where like Texas Death Match with me a hangman, like
that's what took me to the next level. But that's
also LA is also where I had Luca undergrounds, you
(06:14):
know me and hello the hell of War with a
Dante Fox. You know, like you know, there's those like
the biggest death match moments in my career. We're in La,
so La has a special attachment to me as well.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Does it still ever trip you out? Like the places
that wrestling takes you?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
You see the world right? Yeah? It was like one
of those moments was like this is on the indies.
It was me Bandido and Flamita to Litadors wrestling, Naido
a Sonata and Evil, three Japanese gentlemen from New Japan
in Ireland.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I'm like, what are these cultures?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
What are we all doing it? And then like all
wanted this in Ireland of all places in the world.
So I'm like, I guess it's like and then like
I went to like sign an autograph or like an
intermission happened. I was doing merchandise, signing autographs and Black
Dude came up to me. It was like, yo, dude,
I remember, like I was at that match where you
had in New York with Matt Ridol.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I'm like, why are you in Ireland.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Here? Bro? This is great? Like not like he watched it, No,
he was at that event. Now you're at this one.
I'm like, why are you here this dedication? But yeah,
but that's what I'm saying. There's no fan base like
pro wrestling. They will really they have an attachment to somebody.
They will travel all across the world. They do it
with the Tokyo Dome, they did it all in and Wembley,
they do it in uh uh, Triplemania in Mexico.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
They will go and much like football, right, they start
as you know, they start as a as a fan
very young, and then they're just a fan throughout their
entire life.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Some of these guys are watching these guys since high
school though or younger.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Yeah, Like I think every every kid has gone through
a wrestling face, no matter why. Yeah, it doesn't matter
if it's junior, high or high school. But it's amazing
how that just stays and then they carry it to
their kids and so on and so forth. You know,
and I know I did that with mine.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's like following your favorite indie band, ye know, your
indie band or artists and or comedian, like when they
were just doing the comedy seller the laugh Actory, and
then now they're doing their and their Netflix special like
you were there from then for like twenty five bucks
watching them now you're going to pay that.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
You'll pay the five hundred for the big stage.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
And then you start to get to know fans too, right,
You see them and you point them out, like they there,
you are, there, you are, bro. That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Yeah for a fan that's kind of feel like that.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
That that's what.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That's a lifelong fan. This connection can't beat that.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
Hell yeah, what about the fans that are there? That
could be a bit too much though, Sometimes to those
of the guys.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Outside the hotels, the guys waiting for you at the airports,
they like what I'm like, I've took in the same
picture with this guy nine times. I'm like, why do
you keep this? I'm the same guy. It's like like
he had but and it's crazy because like he has
like a photo. I'm like, okay, this was at this
show in the Indies. It's like twenty fourteen. I'm like, wait,
this is like twelve years of like legacy of these promos. Yeah. Man,
(09:08):
outside of airports, outside of the arenas, they're like, they're like,
are you going to the shows or are you just
waiting right right there waiting for my bags? A carousel three?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah, yeah, I see a lot those people for red
carpets on Jack. When you do red carpets, the same
people they have just folders of ship ready to.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
In every industry that happens here, bro when there's a
K pop group open up there, people are here at
five am waiting outside and the K pop group isn't
scheduled to like six pm or three pm, and they're
down there at four am.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
They're gonna get them.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
They don't get them, They're gonna get them. Serious serious
love the fan, Yeah, hardcore fan, right, I love them,
And like I never like I never had any fan incident,
you know, Like you hear the stories, nothing crazy, right,
and I'm like somebody broke into my house or somebody
trying to fight, somebody's trying to Like I never tried to.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I don't. I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I guess me as a professional, I never carry that
kind of energy.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Aren't that kind of and you know, so I never
experienced it, never, not one time.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
How do you feel about like influencers and artists also
wanting to wrestle.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Oh, there's a there's a time and the place for it,
for sure, the time and a.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Place for it.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
There's once again, it always comes back to the connection
to the fan base, Like how much have you connected
with the fan base to warrant your level of involvement
in said space and wrestling.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
That's always going to tell you.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Always got to listen to the fan base, Like they're
going to tell you like what they're receiving. Well, it's
like they're like they're like children. They cry when they
don't you getting something they or they're going to cry
when they want something, and then you feed it to them.
And I'm like, oh that satisfied me. Oh yeah, you
answer what I was. It's a same they're going to
tell you when something like they don't like it or not,
(11:04):
like they're not digesting it. Well then that you say,
for you, bro, I think wrestling they literally regurgitate it.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
I said, especially in wrestling more than any other sport.
If they feel like you deserve your title shot.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Everything will make it. They will make it loud, Yes.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
They will, and they won't stop until you get it.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
It's not really that hard to figure it out, you
know what I mean. Some people like like when you
ask that question, it's like like how come It's very simple.
It's very simple.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
It's like in anything.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It's like, That's why I say, like wrestling and stand
up comedy is very, very similar. You have to say
to the audience, to listen to the audience, and you
take like something, if this joke is not working, you
don't you don't keep going down that path. You have
to transition and then like, Okay, this the nerdy white
dude with the black girl like at it on a date.
(11:56):
I'm going to use that and then I'm going to like,
then you're gonna pull that into your stand up You're
going to make it relatable to the people. Wrestling is
the same way. You got to relate back to the people. Nah,
for sure.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
And much like anything professional, right, you have to put
a lot of years in. This isn't just wrestling on
Instagram and then now you're selling out stadiums.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Like, wrestling is a different thing.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Dog, it's your body and it's a beast, and you
got to put in that time. You gotta put it,
you know, your ten thousand hours for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, like I was saying, I was saying, I'm gonna
keep saying it pretty much like every interview everything I've like,
it's gonna be the same advice because especially wrestling now
is a different world than when I was coming up. Like, yeah,
I didn't have cassette tapes or like or VHS tapes
to like trade, but I still had to get DVDs
and like shot my stuff in emails and stuff like that.
(12:43):
Promoters now it's like you go viral. Now, you can
be like on TV or getting a contract just from
going viral now, So the grind to travel all over
the place is not It's like, I don't say it's
not warranted.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You still need it as a.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Performance, It's not happening as much, right. I think everybody's
getting contracts before they master their craft first, and I
don't in it. It's like you're killing their their growth.
And that's what I'm saying. You gotta like before you
get the like the audience and the likes, the clicks,
the retweets, things you got to you gotta be. You
(13:17):
gotta hone in on your craft.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
First, because that like, as quick as you get it
is as quick as you'll lose it if you're not
good enough and experience enough to keep carrying it.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
You know, So I mastered the craft first, get good
at it, then take on the world and try to
get your name out there. Yeah, hone in first Star,
Star for.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
It, Star for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yea, Yeah, that does to you. But I miss like
seeing like Brian Danielson being the indie star, Kenny Omegas
being the indie stars, you know, like I miss like
seeing like the Luca underground guys or on the indies,
Penta being a star on the Indies. Wow, like, because
that era was so tough and so competitive, but we
(14:02):
were all working together at the same time. Osprey was
coming from the UK and we're like, oh, that's our
UK brother, and then like the what's their name Mustache
Mountain was coming over and they were like and then
Walter I finally Gunther came over, and then we were
just trading guys because and then the Indies was healthy,
(14:22):
Like you were the best rustling you were seeing were
in stadiums, they were in like these clubs because it
was all us in the same time because we were
all rock stars in that era. You know, Rickochet was
on like oh he's on the card. I'm going to
this indie show and it's fifty bucks across around the corner.
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
That's that kind of is dying now. The indie star.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Having that ye rise, Yeah, the young Bucks were selling
like T shirts and hot topic before contract anywhere free agent.
That does not happen. You know, that doesn't happen. You
could make a six figure salary on the independence on
some your own merchandise.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
There's very few that could do it, but.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
It can be done.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
You know, what do you do when you're not feeling
it right or you're on that stage, you're in that
ring with a broken heart? Like, what do we do there?
He's gotta thug it out right?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Me? I always like I can make anything a story.
M that's the key, turn it into something. I'm like,
if I'm not feeling it, that's my story. I'm uninspired
that everybody's went through being uninspired as a musician. Like
even in here, you've been uninspired. You're coming into work,
you're not feeling it today. That's my story, that's my promo,
(15:36):
that's that's my material. That's what I'm like. That's literally
how me and Hangman started. He was uninspired and I
was like, oh, this whole company was built around you.
If you're not, if you're not like motivated, move out
of the way. I'll take it from you.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Now. We have conflict. Yeah, story boom Like like some
people just like what is our story?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
What is our story? I'm like, well, how are you
feeling today? How are you been feeling in life? How
do you feel about him? Like not character wise, but
life wise? Because what you're doing this reflecting reality to
the audience, back to that's all it is. So it's like, Okay,
if we can't write a big, extravagant story that's going
to go eight weeks to this pay per view or whatever,
(16:17):
then write about.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Something real, what are you really feeling? Pull from that.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
Walk in there talking crazy like none of you inspired me,
So now I'm doing this Boom, I'll inspire myself.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Vestman Man has literally made stories about like oh, like
this is like because when you lost Austin Rock went
to Hollywood, he didn't have that next guy, you know,
like no more Hogan, no more.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
This is who's the next guy.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
He literally sat the whole locker room around the audience,
around the ring and said, who's going to grab the
brass ring? Who's going to show me that ruthless aggression?
And then seeing it pops up, Batista bops up, brock
Lessner pops up. Then you you just created a whole
nother era off of something that felt real. That's right,
it's you just pull from something that's real. Man, that's good.
(17:02):
That's good.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
You got to be creative and when you're not feeling it,
turn it into.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Something the same creative. I think you have to be daring,
all right. They're there to understand there to take that chance. Yeah,
taking a chance.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Not not too many people want to take chances, man,
which is crazy.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
You gotta take error now, you got to take that chance.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It's the safety nets and everybody's gotta go.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
You gotta go, man, everybody wants the safety net now.
And I'm like, no, Like when you're you only learn
to fly without like help, nah, yeah, that's you learned
how to swim by getting thrown in that. Yeah, but
we we like the training wheels a lot in are
in this era now, and it's like, I like, you
(17:47):
just just go do it? But what if I feel?
What if I was like, what's the worst that's going
to happen?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
What if you something recently that said like humility is
like an emotion that we need to feel again.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, I agree, that's how far? Yeah, Like, what's the
worst that could happen, Like you know, I tell my
like significant other Rosie, She's like, I'm like she's worried
about like taking certain steps and like taking a chance
on certain things. I'm like, what's the worst that can happen?
You fail and you're right back to where you are
now in a nice house, Like you know, you got sneakers.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Everybody eat today?
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Oh oh my god. I'm like like, go ahead, like
like and then like what if somebody makes fun of
me or makes a meme out of me?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I'm like Lebron James gets memed every day everything.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Jay Z gets memed every day, Like the most successful
people are getting made fun of. This man gets memed everything. Bro,
there's there's about God means, there's memes about everybody. So
it's all good. It's it's okay, Like you will not
be the only and the only victim of failure at
embarrassment and people.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Forget how much this country he loves rebound and you know,
and the back stories.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Like, yeah, make every failure a part of your story.
It's I wouldn't say it's simple because it's hard, because
especially when you're in it, Oh yeah, it's gonna suck.
It's going to feel it. But once you could like
feel it, take that time to feel it too, don't
like just like you know, feel that, but then like
come out of that and be like, what can I
(19:26):
use this for you? This can't go wasted, That's right,
Let that go. You're gonna learn more from losing. That's
a fact, man, brother, I learned. That's that's kind of
where I got here because like learning student, I'm a
student of the game, and my game is losses, nah, failures.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Right, I'm standing on Well, you're standing on a pile
of failures, bro, And that's what got you that the win.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Oh yeah, and that's also just got me blessings too,
like opportunities. One of the things I like to do
is just like I've exhausted so much energy. You know,
you work yourself to death, and you just keep going
at something and you can only take it so far
without help or without the next thing to coming in
to connect with you to get it to whoever. And
(20:14):
there's been times I just like, you know, I'm.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Gonna let it go.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I'm gonna let the universe take care of it now
because I've exhausted so many resources and so much effort
unforce it so much.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I put so much to it already. I need to
let it.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I need to let the universe take care of it
and let me go off over there and then like,
let me create something else over here. All right, I've
exhausted all my resources here, and then you go continue
the next thing. Then you just just need to cruise
for a little bit, no pun intended, that's right, just
like let it go for a little bit. Then you'll
get that email that you were looking for two months later.
(20:47):
Three months later, you're like, oh snap, and then you
get that call back and then oh now that came back.
Now I'm like, now you're moving. But you just got
to put it in the air, and the trust the process, right,
trust it. Just put it, Just put it in the air,
let it come back to you, like just don't focus
on it.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
A little bit exhausted, but but put all.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Your resources and energy towards it and then let it go.
That's right.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
There, you go Hit Different is on austream platforms. Yes,
Hit Different with Ray Kwan Mantesy. You know you got
the chef on there. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
That's got to be like a dream collab, right crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I didn't like once again.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I just put the energy out there and it came
to me like like we're I'm partnered with a principal.
They part of Master Apility, run the production and like
the people man great guys. So I went to one
of the events where like mob Deep was putting out
the album. Now, I showed up a bust and pulled
up Maino and it was in New York. And then
(21:42):
Ray Kawn shows up and I was hearing back in
a w that. I was like, Yo, we were supposed
to do a collab with them some years ago but
fell through. I was like, I'm gonna ask him.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
About that, right because he's right there.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
He's right there. And then Rosie came up, like my girl,
she was like, Hey, what's going on? Hey Hey, YadA, YadA, YadA.
She's just like He's like, yeah, let's do it. Let's
do It's nothing, It's easy next, you know, Like that Friday.
I stayed in New York. That Friday was in the
studio and we had to beat like rest in Peace
Prophet who did the production on it. He did a
big pressure. He's too crazy, winner too, He's crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
So he's one of those like just those those intros.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I'm just glad like we we debuted it at full
gear in November. He passed away in January. He at
least got to see it in the arena, you know,
before it happened, and yeah, He's like like we had
the beat, and I was just like, I got an idea.
So I just went in the booth and wrapped in
front of Ray Kwan. So I was the first vote.
(22:40):
He was like, you was expecting all that, yo, you
you do this, You do this for real? You expect
wrestling rap? No, no, no, I'm just I'm an artist, man,
I'm trying to be And so he gave me that stamp.
So that's streaming out and shout out to Ray Kwan
for you know, him and Wu Tang being inducted Rock
and Roll all flamers, they should my entrance music. So
(23:04):
that's one of the things. Once again, to the universe
just blessed me with something, you know, Sneaker deals with Rebos,
collab iverson BP, put into the DC universe and the
comic books with Green Lantern, you know, like a lot
of great things, just like and just me being myself,
(23:24):
putting a little bit of myself into like every little
thing I do. Are you going to act as well? Man?
That's that's the next thing that we're working on it.
We're working on it, but once again has exhausted all
my resources I can put towards it right now. I'm just.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Yeah, you're working on a full project.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Oh yeah, we're I got like three projects worth the
stuff now. Max b just pulled up in the studio, Babe.
He was shouting me out in prison. I'm like, I
don't even know you. I'm so glad you were a
fan of mine. Like literally as soon as he released
and stuffing, I kept getting tagged on something. Yeah, I
gotta get a swerve that you gotta do, and then
(24:06):
like sure enough, like shoutout Rosie man. Rosie made a
lot of these connections. She was shout out what the hell?
She was walking to the airport and she's like, I
think that's a Max be over there and I want
FaceTime with her. She's like, I'm gonna go say what's up?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
And he goes yo.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Swerve was good, and then we made the studio session happen.
So we just did two tracks together. That's the universe.
It's like I said, like, I can't explain it.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
Like nah nah just yeah Bro, yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Max bb Bro, Swerve and Wavy Crockett, Wavy Crocket.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
He was such great energy too, and he just was on.
He's happy to be out, to be out. He was living.
He's living his life. He straight from vacation and went
right to the studio.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
No, that's right, went on vacation for the first time
in his life.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I guess right like eighteen years.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, that's that's my wrestling career. He was going my
entire wrestling career. That's starting to begin.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Yeah, and he got stuff on the radio, man, because
he's on the French joint. He's at a great class joint.
Like he came back ready.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
You could tell he had so much ready to just
like just unleash onto the world with a fresh mind,
fresh spirit. Friend. And when he went in shape too.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
When he went in, that's when he could have took off.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Yeah, you feel me. But he went in and then
you know you're talking about doing the bid. Man, My
man did that big? I think what we at first
they gave him seventy five years.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, yeah bro, yesterday, wild Bro, that's crazy. Do you
get to go on vacation? I just did like a
three day one, three days, three days bro. So once
again Rosie, Uh, she's she knows everybody in New York.
She been in New York for like all her life,
(25:47):
so she's cool. A side for sounds and he was
opening and DJing for Dave Chappelle. So we went to Ohio,
went to his compound. He went to the Ohio Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
So we got invited.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
We hung out with Dave Chapelle to like two am
the next morning. Smoke a cigarette, smoke not but with Dave.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
If he offers a cigarette.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Don't for me a drink. But I took a rebel.
But he was awesome like this. He set ended at
like at midnight and we just chilled with him until
like two. He served us jerk chicken and stuff like
you know the comedies stand up to the lock the
phone up. Yeah, so he didn't have our phone. We
did to take no pictures, but I'm like, this is
his experience. That's just yeah, it's just for you, It's for.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Us, and keep you in the moment too.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
That's what was the best thing about the night.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Everybody just had to mingle all the comedians that he
brought in, and like we just was just like you
can't be on your phone. Everybody was just interacting. So
it was actually like really cool. And the next day
we went to the Bambas.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
So he checked out his town.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
He owns half the town, right, he was.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Walking down the town. We're like, oh, there's day right there.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Yeah yeah, yeah, he owns the town. He purchased the town. Yeah,
it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
It's just a little small, like you can literally walk
one street through town. But it's really peaceful. It was
actually really peaceful town. Really cool.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
You have a great life. You live an amazing life.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
It's wild. It's wild, say the least. Like and like
I said, I wasn't pushing to try to do these things.
These are things that just happened.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
But good stuff happens to good people. Man.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I appreciate that. Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
And look at everything that's happening.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
There's still so much more to go. Yeah, bro, there's
still so that's what keeps me wanted to That's what
keeps me motivated. Still so much more to go. And like,
you know, I have Juliette over here. She's like always like,
well I've worked with this client. I'm like, that's stope.
I want to do that. So that's my next thing.
I know this person, that's cool. I want to do
that with that person, like like, oh well we have
(27:49):
these connections. I'm like I want to do that. That's
the next thing that keeps me. And she's like she's
like he'll actually get up off the couch and do it.
I'm like, that's right, I'll lie out. Yeah right, like yeah,
let's just do this.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
There's no time, like all right, we at the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
We did media at the super.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Bowl, you did the draft and the draft raft that
was there a lot of people in Pittsburgh, Bro.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
On day three there was still like one hundred thousand.
On the fourth and fifth round, sixth Brown, there was
still like one hundred thousand people like see full of people,
you know, stage and then on the stage and stuff,
and then like like hanging out with Roger Goodell. That's
like in the green room with like Michael Keaton.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Like what has happened?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That's batman, Bro. And he was such a sweet guy.
Roger Godell. They signed my draft card and now so
I got that signed by Michael Keaton and Roger Goodell
And can you ask for autographs? Do you ask for autographs.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Yeah, yes, they're not gonna tell him.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Like to me, I'm I'm a fan of them. I'm
a fan. I'm literally a fan of them, you know,
like I need to pick right, like we need a
I feel like it's good to know like your peers,
you're a fan of your peers too, you know, like
you know, like yeah, like you even like like even
in the locker room in a W I'm still inspired
(29:13):
by Jericho walking through. Wow, I'm still inspired by Sting
walking through. You know, Kenny Omega still inspires me. Like
I'm inspired by Adam Copan Edge and Christian you know,
I'm inspired by these guys. Still. I'm inspired by Tony Kahan.
You know, he's living his dream. A W is living
his dream, and he's done like the NFL and like
(29:37):
like the premier socer leagues and all that stuff. He's
done all that yacht in freaking world and all that stuff.
But his dream is a W and so we're making his.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Dream happen too.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
So everybody's like helping everybody else pursue their dreams. So
we're all fans of each other. I'm a fan of
Darby Allen, you know, for climbing Mount Everest. I would
never do that. Never, I would never think of gonna die.
He said. He literally walked past bodies on the trail
up there. They're like they're used as markers.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Right, Like, oh yep, that was Tim.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Sorry Tim, you're walking by them and you could It's
not like they're covered, you see, they're there, They're just open.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah. Yeah, because it's not even like it's not even
the freezing, he said. He said, it's literally the lung capacity.
They couldn't take it. Yeah, because because you have to
train for like months, you have to go up a
certain level and then go back down and then go
back up and go back up to get your like
the breathing, right, some people just go up and then
they're like done wild. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Has has anyone ever tried to, like, you know, some
some fans rich Father tried to hire you for a
personal appearance.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
No, maybe I haven't looked deep enough for my d ms.
I bet you dogs deals in there, bro. I've had
some friends that don't you go to get Juliette on them.
I'm like, you just need to do a backflip into
a cake sign me you're down here. I mean, when
we need you have three years old, so let's do this.
(31:02):
I'm like, yot, I get what. Totally make a viral moment,
make a TikTok and I'll boomerang. Let's do it whatever
we gotta do. Let's have fun. Yeah, that's and that's
honestly what it is is about finding the joy and
doing all this stuff. I literally find joy coming in
talking with people. They find joy like getting up and like,
(31:23):
oh I got it. I got stuff to do today.
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I find the joy in.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
The full calendar? Makes you happy?
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah that much. Kids and my kids made
me happy. How kids doing big? Yeah? Big sixteen or
fourteen sixteen, big, big, big hold of yours. G see you.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I got nineteen and seventeen, so it's just a little
ahead of you.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Man.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Girls boys too, I got girls. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
My youngest is now on guitar, so she's a guitar.
She's the musician. She's on guitar, bass, and keyboard.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
All at fourteen self taught. She doesn't. She finally started
asking for lessons, but she's just self taught.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Are they opposite personalities?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Very much, very much? So they're they're my yin yang.
She's over here, and then my youngest is over here.
There're spee splitting two because she's the oldest, is the athlete. Yeah,
there it is. Yea.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
They get mad at each other for stealing each other's clothes.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
No, like they don't really fight much at all, Like
they're really good at that. They're two different moms, so
they're two different households, but when they come together, they're
always like like they lock in. Yeah, you know, they
get annoyed like, oh, she's hogging this. Oh oh dad,
she's doing this. I'm like she They have that moment,
those moments, but other than that, I'm like, I'm like,
(32:46):
I'm like, just separate, y'all be back back on over
top of each other, and like by the time we
get home, that's right. And sure enough, they.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Don't want to sleep a seperate bests. They want to
sleep on the same bed and like that.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
They always want to like yeah, I'm like, listen, y'all
go wrestle. Figure this out.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
But my youngest is not the physical and she doesn't
want to fight. She's not a fighter. She's the artist.
She's the artist, the quiet one, artiste. The oldest one
is quiet as well. But she's emotional. She's she's the
emotional one for sure. Yeah, but she's the athlete.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
What is she playing?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Basketball?
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Basketball?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah? Yeah, I have the personal trainer. We did a
personal training thing with me and her, and like she's
a dog. Yeah. She was doing like goblet squats with
eighty pounds dumbbells. And this was like two summers ago.
She was fourteen then. Yeah, wow, yeah she was. She's
a dog. Yo. She doesn't want to wrestle, no, thank god.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
None of them do.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
They don't, none of them, neither one. That's okay with you?
Oh yes, oh yes, yeah, oh yeah. Let dad do
his work. Yep. You to live your lives. Yeah, I'm
falling on my back for you guys. That's right. That's
right man. I'm like, so you don't have to do
so you have options of what you want to do,
because I'm like me, I'm like, uh, you you were
born on I was eighteen, you were born when I
was twenty one. Wrestling is all I had, right, that's right, Yeah,
(34:05):
that's right. You guys don't have to go through that. Yeah,
you can choose what you want to do, right, If
you want to do nothing for a year.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
You're good.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
That's beautiful man, Yeah, good dad Gang Yeah, Man, that
is a blessing for sure. Man, Sweve, thank you for
your time, bro of course, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Man. You know you're welcome here in the time. We
get to talk new music.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I want to talk music.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I mean we totally could, man, if we're on schedule.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
No, we have time, Yeah, okay, yeah, because I'm like, okay,
I don't know if you got to go, you know
what I mean. I mean no, So you got like,
you got two albums at least that you can put
out right now, three at least three.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah, And I've been like not recording in the same space.
I've been in New York recording. You record out here
as well. Yeah, I'm about to record a night and
hit different.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
You drop that in this Devember November of last year, right, Yeah.
So it's still new, dog, it's still fresh. Yeah, I
still got like music Soul Child Records. I got a
couple of those ones and video with him.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
My first album was a couple of years ago. I
got Benny the Butcher on that. Like me and Bunn
Bee worked together. Man, so much stuff's been going on.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Do you have titles for the album.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
You have ideas, I'm still work shopping in with them.
I have the whole concept and everything together. I just
want like a universal thumbs up from everybody on the team.
I don't want one person be like I don't know,
like you don't want that. I want everybody to feel like, no,
this is we're confident about this. So now we just
like went through the whole catalog in the studio the
day before Maxby came in. We're just going like, Okay,
(35:34):
this checks off on this project. Okay, this sonically sounds
good for this one, this conceptually works for these and
we're just putting them over here. Then we're gonna go
right back over them again and go through it again.
Process in Florida with like freaking Corey, who's hype man
for Missy Elliott and stuff. And I've been I've been
(35:57):
all over the place always always.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Do you ever go into freestyle and be like, damn,
I did that too, Yep, you gotta feel.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
It right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
But I learned that from sant Ain't Tone, who works
with Big Sean and stuff. I did that in Detroit
with him, and he's just like, don't just go in
there with like just feel it, feel it, like you'll
be able to catch the cater. It's a lot easier
when you're not having you're not like stuck on something
that you've written. And so I'm learning that. I'm learning
these different techniques on approaching records and learning my vocal
(36:31):
muscles and how to like how I want to sound
emotion I want to yeah, yeah, conveying these things. You know,
like I have a great like core of like guys
that I'm like learning from. And then like I then
I could talk to like Isaiah Rashad, you know, for advice,
I can go to Big I've literally gone to Big
Sean about advice.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
He's a good dude. Man.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, So it's like that's I'm like, that's really crazy.
That's like at the hell Eric Bellanders in the studio
with dud and brilliant, brilliant, brilliant like teaching me bridge
bridges and records music.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
I'm like, it's so cool how you you get a
little piece of everything from different people minds that like
a lot of us can't really like just understand, but
when you're in those rooms with them, they're just like
so like I understand it now.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah, and it was to me, it was all about
getting in the room with people that have done it,
have an accomplishment and then and no more than me,
I got you know that, Like I'm always looking up
to you know.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
That's like it's helping me rise.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, It's also helped me gain my confidence too, like, oh,
I can wrap it front of way Kwan when I'm like,
I got my verse, I can do it right right.
That's it takes a lot of confidence, you know, and
you don't want to ball and it sounds you'll hear
it when you don't sound confident on the microphone.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Sure who listen to in your free time?
Speaker 6 (37:58):
School boy q hug You talk about confidence? Man, you
hit confidence right then and.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
There, and nobody delivers like him. Tyler like one of
the most stylish rappers yea out.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Run Bro Like look at the album's.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Generational run Bro. I relate to Tyler so much because
like early early Tyler career, it wasn't cool to like Tyler.
He was like there were so many other artists that
were like, no, not Tyler. Were looking at this guy.
We're looking at this guy. We're looking at this guy.
These are the this is the guys. It's going to
take the industry by storing for the next ten years,
(38:35):
it's going to be these guys. And for me, it
was like that's how I felt in wrestling. There was
all these other guys that were like ahead of me.
There was like he was hot one, he was the
hot one. These are the guys that's going to change
the industry. And then like as the year's going, we improved,
we improved, we evolved, we found our style, we found
our voice. Sure, we stayed ourselves too, and then when
(38:56):
it came our time to be on top, and we
grabbed it and we didn't look we didn't look back.
So I relate with Tyler's rise so much. Yeah, because
it came up as the weird kid, right.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I was the weird kid too, coming in.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I was the weird like like I don't get it, Swerve,
what does that mean? Like Tyler, like Tyler Crator, what
is here creating? You know? It was very like those
voices were very much the same. So I relate to
his whole journey Big Sean, I got swerved from from this.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Yeah, So say, man, sample that bro, I'm trying to ask.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
For his sample something.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Sample verse that'd be crazy, that'd be crazy. Who's the
dream collap music?
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Travis Travis Tyler.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
And I'll say my big three is Travis Tyler.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
And if if.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I put it down and do you know just three
guys matter of fact I want, I won't even keep
it to guys. I'll say Doc too incredible. I saw
her live in Tampa. Unbelievably talented her.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
That's just greatful former.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
And one thing I also noticed, this is the last
thing I'll say with artists. One thing I noticed about
Tyler and Doci and these certain artists like that even
asap the fans when they come to the shows, they
dress like the artists, and there's very few artists that
can pull that off. There's like, you don't have really
(40:32):
artists like that. I'm going dressed as so and so
I'm dressed as like Drake is starting to get there
with the rose and hair and all the impersonators and stuff.
So you're getting that a little bit more. But like Doc,
people came dressed as Doc into certain visit the class
inspiration Yeah, Tyler, the Cardigans and like that.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
When we went to freaking flogging, every igor was and everybody.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Had the like they are visual artists, like you can
literally dressed like them to prepare to go to their shows. Right,
That's one thing I caught like going to these shows.
I go to see everybody. Yeah, and now once.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
They're on your hairstyle, once they're on your wardrobe, and
they they they they connected that way.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Man, you gotta like wrestling.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Yes, exactly, once they were in your T shirt.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
But dressing like you.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
How many macho man Randy savage people. We see it
in subways and like stuff. You want to dress like
you who you are. So that's one thing I learned.
I picked up from watching these guys.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
Now, when I was a kid, I was whole coding
for Halloween for like three years straight. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
The pants were flooding, but I didn't want to let
it go. Bro, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
But like you know, it's just a fan and you
want to dress and be like them.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I'm out of time now, I gotta get out of here,
but I didn't want to leave. We appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
Yeah, we gotta get a wrap man, start bars, man,
you want to freestyle?
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Look he thought about it for a second.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
I was like, well appreciated, Thank you man all day yes, sir,
it's the Crui Show, Real Naty today.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Hey checking Richard with the Cruise Show.
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What's good, it's good? What ups must and you're checking
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go man on the Cruise Show. What you Man? First off,
it's awesome to be back in l A. It is
like probably one of my favorite cities. L A and Seattle.
(00:21):
I love the West Coast La Seattle. Those are two
totally different places. No, l A Seattle. You know, geographically, yes,
but also like the culturalized to what saying, isn't it
very cold and damp out there in Seattle? Or it
can be? I never can't. You can bet you've been there.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah. Yeah, one of my stars are like super hot.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
You're one of my favorite places too.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It's also the downtowns are like super nice and clean,
but there's some you know, some sketch. Yeah, that's good
to hear. They probably got some fire. Restaurants get amazing.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
It's surprisingly good. Mexican food bro in Seattle.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yes, I've had over there always like the Japanese and
karaokey food and stuff like that everywhere there you go.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
That part of the diet is protein, green water.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
To get as clean as I can when you're on
the road.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Jesus exactly on the road. I mean, what's open McDonald's,
Burger King Taco.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Especially when you're like finished, like any type of event,
that's all that's open and you're hungry. So what do
we do? Were you packing like right before, right before
everything shuts down the evening times? Yep? Yeah, maybe a
meal prep maybe?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I'm not disciplined enough for it, I know.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
And you're not disciplined. You know, you have to be
in your field. Yeah, but like a lot of other
you can't have everything. That kind of discipline would rive
be crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You have the fun. That's where something has to flow free.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
No, that's right.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, That's that's why we see like Tom Brady when
he won that last championship go Ham yeah, and throwing
the trophy and he's like, I don't got to answer
to nobody is over because he's so super disciplined right
like the whole year and he just let loose.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
So in those kinds of guys, when you guys let loose, y'all,
let loose pause like y'all.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I actually when I let loose is just being home.
I like I go like very like ground level. That's
what I'm always like this this this yep, and you
feel like you always have to have the trigger, you know,
the switch on.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Nah yeah, yeah with the bright lights and all the noise,
the dark room must be soothing.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Oh I love it.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, closed curtains. They're like, why is it so dark
in here? I'm like, leave my leave me alone. That's
why I'm swaying right now. Don't talk to me.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Yes, I'm in here in the dark, vibing with my
own thoughts.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It's the great vibration, that's not That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Man. Aw, how things going? Aw, everything's been going like amazing,
fantastic rising time. You know. Me and Kenny Omega was
going at it last year, you know, and that's like
a goat that always wanted to like have our one
on one with We had like oh really yeah, Like
that was our first ever singles in Sacramento this year February.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
So we had a six man tag like years.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Ago with the Bucks in twenty fifteen in the UK
when they were doing their first tour to yeah as
the Elite. Yeah, you know, which is crazy because the
league goes way back to twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, so
that's but it's crazy that they have been together that long.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
That's how much of a legacy.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
That's where they get to a yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, yep,
that's so crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
He's like, and so me and him finally like we're
at the peak of our careers and our like prime,
Like we're like, yo, this is the time to do
it right now. So that's like twenty twenty six. That's
why I felt like I offered the wrestling world in
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
So far, what state town city has the best audience?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Would you say? Seattle? Just that's a hurt feelings, but yeah,
well everybody's lit, right, but like yeah, there's a lot
of ones, but like you know, that's the hometown bias.
Like that's literally like where who's house wrest House came from,
that's right, and like Washington Hall and Defy Wrestling. You know,
me and Cody Roads were the first main event there. Wow,
So it's like that's wild because we both both became
(03:56):
the world champions for w W and AW at the
same time. Yeah, that's start in Seattle and define when
that was the first main event the only time we've
ever wrestled, So it's like they've made a prediction ten
years into the future. Wow you know yeah, bro, Yeah,
so literally like speaking into existence like that, Like I
didn't really like understand that growing up. Everybody always talks
(04:18):
about that and people have lived that. Now I'm like, wow,
that really happened. That really really happened. Yeah, man, I
saw it. Yeah I believed it, and now I believe
it now now I do. But it's like speaking existence like, oh,
that's that's always a nice thing to say to keep
people motivating.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
It sounds good right right now, but it's true, it's.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
True, it can really happen.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I think the one thing about wrestling fans just in
general too, they appreciate the grind, right you said ten
years and yeah you said it kind of lightly, but
it's ten years and year, you know, and like I think,
you know, a lot of people have some bid in
another sports. It's not that way like they expect you
to go from Duke to the NBA and be great
right away. Yeah, you know, but like wrestling, they understand
(05:01):
the grind and and and to get from you know,
like you said in Seattle to that point to ten
years later. And I appreciate that. I'm a fan, but
I know all wrestling fans feel.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
They appreciate they walk with it. Yeah, they they like
it's like they walk with and they feel like they
walked in the same like steps that you did. You know.
It's always so emotional, right, they have an emotional tidy.
It's like watching the NFL team go from like the
draft picked like now, going through the hard times to
(05:31):
building up to finally like year seven, you're eight getting
to the super Bowl, the playoffs, the whole Jordan took
eight years to get to the finals. You know, he
went through a lot of hardships, but you rode with
them all the way through, you know. So they especially
when they have the hometown attachment to you, they yeah, yeah,
and like, uh, that's why certain cities are very important.
(05:52):
Like I did this in this city, I won in
this CD, I lost this in this city. You were there,
and then like now each city kind of can they
feel like they have a connection to you some time
you come back. LA has a big connection because that's
where like Texas Death Match with me a hangman, like
that's what took me to the next level. But that's
also LA is also where I had Luca undergrounds, you
(06:14):
know me and hello the hell of War with a
Dante Fox. You know, like you know, there's those like
the biggest death match moments in my career. We're in La,
so La has a special attachment to me as well.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Does it still ever trip you out? Like the places
that wrestling takes you?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
You see the world right? Yeah? It was like one
of those moments was like this is on the indies.
It was me Bandido and Flamita to Litadors wrestling, Naido
a Sonata and Evil, three Japanese gentlemen from New Japan
in Ireland.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I'm like, what are these cultures?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
What are we all doing it? And then like all
wanted this in Ireland of all places in the world.
So I'm like, I guess it's like and then like
I went to like sign an autograph or like an
intermission happened. I was doing merchandise, signing autographs and Black
Dude came up to me. It was like, yo, dude,
I remember, like I was at that match where you
had in New York with Matt Ridol.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I'm like, why are you in Ireland.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Here? Bro? This is great? Like not like he watched it, No,
he was at that event. Now you're at this one.
I'm like, why are you here this dedication? But yeah,
but that's what I'm saying. There's no fan base like
pro wrestling. They will really they have an attachment to somebody.
They will travel all across the world. They do it
with the Tokyo Dome, they did it all in and Wembley,
they do it in uh uh, Triplemania in Mexico.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
They will go and much like football, right, they start
as you know, they start as a as a fan
very young, and then they're just a fan throughout their
entire life.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Some of these guys are watching these guys since high
school though or younger.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Yeah, Like I think every every kid has gone through
a wrestling face, no matter why. Yeah, it doesn't matter
if it's junior, high or high school. But it's amazing
how that just stays and then they carry it to
their kids and so on and so forth. You know,
and I know I did that with mine.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's like following your favorite indie band, ye know, your
indie band or artists and or comedian, like when they
were just doing the comedy seller the laugh Actory, and
then now they're doing their and their Netflix special like
you were there from then for like twenty five bucks
watching them now you're going to pay that.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
You'll pay the five hundred for the big stage.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
And then you start to get to know fans too, right,
You see them and you point them out, like they there,
you are, there, you are, bro. That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Yeah for a fan that's kind of feel like that.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
That that's what.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That's a lifelong fan. This connection can't beat that.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
Hell yeah, what about the fans that are there? That
could be a bit too much though, Sometimes to those
of the guys.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Outside the hotels, the guys waiting for you at the airports,
they like what I'm like, I've took in the same
picture with this guy nine times. I'm like, why do
you keep this? I'm the same guy. It's like like
he had but and it's crazy because like he has
like a photo. I'm like, okay, this was at this
show in the Indies. It's like twenty fourteen. I'm like, wait,
this is like twelve years of like legacy of these promos. Yeah. Man,
(09:08):
outside of airports, outside of the arenas, they're like, they're like,
are you going to the shows or are you just
waiting right right there waiting for my bags? A carousel three?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah, yeah, I see a lot those people for red
carpets on Jack. When you do red carpets, the same
people they have just folders of ship ready to.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
In every industry that happens here, bro when there's a
K pop group open up there, people are here at
five am waiting outside and the K pop group isn't
scheduled to like six pm or three pm, and they're
down there at four am.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
They're gonna get them.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
They don't get them, They're gonna get them. Serious serious
love the fan, Yeah, hardcore fan, right, I love them,
And like I never like I never had any fan incident,
you know, Like you hear the stories, nothing crazy, right,
and I'm like somebody broke into my house or somebody
trying to fight, somebody's trying to Like I never tried to.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I don't. I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I guess me as a professional, I never carry that
kind of energy.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Aren't that kind of and you know, so I never
experienced it, never, not one time.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
How do you feel about like influencers and artists also
wanting to wrestle.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Oh, there's a there's a time and the place for it,
for sure, the time and a.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Place for it.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
There's once again, it always comes back to the connection
to the fan base, Like how much have you connected
with the fan base to warrant your level of involvement
in said space and wrestling.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
That's always going to tell you.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Always got to listen to the fan base, Like they're
going to tell you like what they're receiving. Well, it's
like they're like they're like children. They cry when they
don't you getting something they or they're going to cry
when they want something, and then you feed it to them.
And I'm like, oh that satisfied me. Oh yeah, you
answer what I was. It's a same they're going to
tell you when something like they don't like it or not,
(11:04):
like they're not digesting it. Well then that you say,
for you, bro, I think wrestling they literally regurgitate it.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
I said, especially in wrestling more than any other sport.
If they feel like you deserve your title shot.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Everything will make it. They will make it loud, Yes.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
They will, and they won't stop until you get it.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
It's not really that hard to figure it out, you
know what I mean. Some people like like when you
ask that question, it's like like how come It's very simple.
It's very simple.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
It's like in anything.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It's like, That's why I say, like wrestling and stand
up comedy is very, very similar. You have to say
to the audience, to listen to the audience, and you
take like something, if this joke is not working, you
don't you don't keep going down that path. You have
to transition and then like, Okay, this the nerdy white
dude with the black girl like at it on a date.
(11:56):
I'm going to use that and then I'm going to like,
then you're gonna pull that into your stand up You're
going to make it relatable to the people. Wrestling is
the same way. You got to relate back to the people. Nah,
for sure.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
And much like anything professional, right, you have to put
a lot of years in. This isn't just wrestling on
Instagram and then now you're selling out stadiums.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Like, wrestling is a different thing.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Dog, it's your body and it's a beast, and you
got to put in that time. You gotta put it,
you know, your ten thousand hours for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, like I was saying, I was saying, I'm gonna
keep saying it pretty much like every interview everything I've like,
it's gonna be the same advice because especially wrestling now
is a different world than when I was coming up. Like, yeah,
I didn't have cassette tapes or like or VHS tapes
to like trade, but I still had to get DVDs
and like shot my stuff in emails and stuff like that.
(12:43):
Promoters now it's like you go viral. Now, you can
be like on TV or getting a contract just from
going viral now, So the grind to travel all over
the place is not It's like, I don't say it's
not warranted.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You still need it as a.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Performance, It's not happening as much, right. I think everybody's
getting contracts before they master their craft first, and I
don't in it. It's like you're killing their their growth.
And that's what I'm saying. You gotta like before you
get the like the audience and the likes, the clicks,
the retweets, things you got to you gotta be. You
(13:17):
gotta hone in on your craft.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
First, because that like, as quick as you get it
is as quick as you'll lose it if you're not
good enough and experience enough to keep carrying it.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
You know, So I mastered the craft first, get good
at it, then take on the world and try to
get your name out there. Yeah, hone in first Star,
Star for.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
It, Star for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yea, Yeah, that does to you. But I miss like
seeing like Brian Danielson being the indie star, Kenny Omegas
being the indie stars, you know, like I miss like
seeing like the Luca underground guys or on the indies,
Penta being a star on the Indies. Wow, like, because
that era was so tough and so competitive, but we
(14:02):
were all working together at the same time. Osprey was
coming from the UK and we're like, oh, that's our
UK brother, and then like the what's their name Mustache
Mountain was coming over and they were like and then
Walter I finally Gunther came over, and then we were
just trading guys because and then the Indies was healthy,
(14:22):
Like you were the best rustling you were seeing were
in stadiums, they were in like these clubs because it
was all us in the same time because we were
all rock stars in that era. You know, Rickochet was
on like oh he's on the card. I'm going to
this indie show and it's fifty bucks across around the corner.
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
That's that kind of is dying now. The indie star.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Having that ye rise, Yeah, the young Bucks were selling
like T shirts and hot topic before contract anywhere free agent.
That does not happen. You know, that doesn't happen. You
could make a six figure salary on the independence on
some your own merchandise.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
There's very few that could do it, but.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
It can be done.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
You know, what do you do when you're not feeling
it right or you're on that stage, you're in that
ring with a broken heart? Like, what do we do there?
He's gotta thug it out right?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Me? I always like I can make anything a story.
M that's the key, turn it into something. I'm like,
if I'm not feeling it, that's my story. I'm uninspired
that everybody's went through being uninspired as a musician. Like
even in here, you've been uninspired. You're coming into work,
you're not feeling it today. That's my story, that's my promo,
(15:36):
that's that's my material. That's what I'm like. That's literally
how me and Hangman started. He was uninspired and I
was like, oh, this whole company was built around you.
If you're not, if you're not like motivated, move out
of the way. I'll take it from you.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Now. We have conflict. Yeah, story boom Like like some
people just like what is our story?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
What is our story? I'm like, well, how are you
feeling today? How are you been feeling in life? How
do you feel about him? Like not character wise, but
life wise? Because what you're doing this reflecting reality to
the audience, back to that's all it is. So it's like, Okay,
if we can't write a big, extravagant story that's going
to go eight weeks to this pay per view or whatever,
(16:17):
then write about.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Something real, what are you really feeling? Pull from that.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
Walk in there talking crazy like none of you inspired me,
So now I'm doing this Boom, I'll inspire myself.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Vestman Man has literally made stories about like oh, like
this is like because when you lost Austin Rock went
to Hollywood, he didn't have that next guy, you know,
like no more Hogan, no more.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
This is who's the next guy.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
He literally sat the whole locker room around the audience,
around the ring and said, who's going to grab the
brass ring? Who's going to show me that ruthless aggression?
And then seeing it pops up, Batista bops up, brock
Lessner pops up. Then you you just created a whole
nother era off of something that felt real. That's right,
it's you just pull from something that's real. Man, that's good.
(17:02):
That's good.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
You got to be creative and when you're not feeling it,
turn it into.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Something the same creative. I think you have to be daring,
all right. They're there to understand there to take that chance. Yeah,
taking a chance.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Not not too many people want to take chances, man,
which is crazy.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
You gotta take error now, you got to take that chance.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It's the safety nets and everybody's gotta go.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
You gotta go, man, everybody wants the safety net now.
And I'm like, no, Like when you're you only learn
to fly without like help, nah, yeah, that's you learned
how to swim by getting thrown in that. Yeah, but
we we like the training wheels a lot in are
in this era now, and it's like, I like, you
(17:47):
just just go do it? But what if I feel?
What if I was like, what's the worst that's going
to happen?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
What if you something recently that said like humility is
like an emotion that we need to feel again.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, I agree, that's how far? Yeah, Like, what's the
worst that could happen, Like you know, I tell my
like significant other Rosie, She's like, I'm like she's worried
about like taking certain steps and like taking a chance
on certain things. I'm like, what's the worst that can happen?
You fail and you're right back to where you are
now in a nice house, Like you know, you got sneakers.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Everybody eat today?
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Oh oh my god. I'm like like, go ahead, like
like and then like what if somebody makes fun of
me or makes a meme out of me?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I'm like Lebron James gets memed every day everything.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Jay Z gets memed every day, Like the most successful
people are getting made fun of. This man gets memed everything. Bro,
there's there's about God means, there's memes about everybody. So
it's all good. It's it's okay, Like you will not
be the only and the only victim of failure at
embarrassment and people.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Forget how much this country he loves rebound and you know,
and the back stories.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Like, yeah, make every failure a part of your story.
It's I wouldn't say it's simple because it's hard, because
especially when you're in it, Oh yeah, it's gonna suck.
It's going to feel it. But once you could like
feel it, take that time to feel it too, don't
like just like you know, feel that, but then like
come out of that and be like, what can I
(19:26):
use this for you? This can't go wasted, That's right,
Let that go. You're gonna learn more from losing. That's
a fact, man, brother, I learned. That's that's kind of
where I got here because like learning student, I'm a
student of the game, and my game is losses, nah, failures.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Right, I'm standing on Well, you're standing on a pile
of failures, bro, And that's what got you that the win.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Oh yeah, and that's also just got me blessings too,
like opportunities. One of the things I like to do
is just like I've exhausted so much energy. You know,
you work yourself to death, and you just keep going
at something and you can only take it so far
without help or without the next thing to coming in
to connect with you to get it to whoever. And
(20:14):
there's been times I just like, you know, I'm.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Gonna let it go.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I'm gonna let the universe take care of it now
because I've exhausted so many resources and so much effort
unforce it so much.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I put so much to it already. I need to
let it.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I need to let the universe take care of it
and let me go off over there and then like,
let me create something else over here. All right, I've
exhausted all my resources here, and then you go continue
the next thing. Then you just just need to cruise
for a little bit, no pun intended, that's right, just
like let it go for a little bit. Then you'll
get that email that you were looking for two months later.
(20:47):
Three months later, you're like, oh snap, and then you
get that call back and then oh now that came back.
Now I'm like, now you're moving. But you just got
to put it in the air, and the trust the process, right,
trust it. Just put it, Just put it in the air,
let it come back to you, like just don't focus
on it.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
A little bit exhausted, but but put all.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Your resources and energy towards it and then let it go.
That's right.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
There, you go Hit Different is on austream platforms. Yes,
Hit Different with Ray Kwan Mantesy. You know you got
the chef on there. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
That's got to be like a dream collab, right crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I didn't like once again.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I just put the energy out there and it came
to me like like we're I'm partnered with a principal.
They part of Master Apility, run the production and like
the people man great guys. So I went to one
of the events where like mob Deep was putting out
the album. Now, I showed up a bust and pulled
up Maino and it was in New York. And then
(21:42):
Ray Kawn shows up and I was hearing back in
a w that. I was like, Yo, we were supposed
to do a collab with them some years ago but
fell through. I was like, I'm gonna ask him.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
About that, right because he's right there.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
He's right there. And then Rosie came up, like my girl,
she was like, Hey, what's going on? Hey Hey, YadA, YadA, YadA.
She's just like He's like, yeah, let's do it. Let's
do It's nothing, It's easy next, you know, Like that Friday.
I stayed in New York. That Friday was in the
studio and we had to beat like rest in Peace
Prophet who did the production on it. He did a
big pressure. He's too crazy, winner too, He's crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
So he's one of those like just those those intros.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I'm just glad like we we debuted it at full
gear in November. He passed away in January. He at
least got to see it in the arena, you know,
before it happened, and yeah, He's like like we had
the beat, and I was just like, I got an idea.
So I just went in the booth and wrapped in
front of Ray Kwan. So I was the first vote.
(22:40):
He was like, you was expecting all that, yo, you
you do this, You do this for real? You expect
wrestling rap? No, no, no, I'm just I'm an artist, man,
I'm trying to be And so he gave me that stamp.
So that's streaming out and shout out to Ray Kwan
for you know, him and Wu Tang being inducted Rock
and Roll all flamers, they should my entrance music. So
(23:04):
that's one of the things. Once again, to the universe
just blessed me with something, you know, Sneaker deals with Rebos,
collab iverson BP, put into the DC universe and the
comic books with Green Lantern, you know, like a lot
of great things, just like and just me being myself,
(23:24):
putting a little bit of myself into like every little
thing I do. Are you going to act as well? Man?
That's that's the next thing that we're working on it.
We're working on it, but once again has exhausted all
my resources I can put towards it right now. I'm just.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Yeah, you're working on a full project.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Oh yeah, we're I got like three projects worth the
stuff now. Max b just pulled up in the studio, Babe.
He was shouting me out in prison. I'm like, I
don't even know you. I'm so glad you were a
fan of mine. Like literally as soon as he released
and stuffing, I kept getting tagged on something. Yeah, I
gotta get a swerve that you gotta do, and then
(24:06):
like sure enough, like shoutout Rosie man. Rosie made a
lot of these connections. She was shout out what the hell?
She was walking to the airport and she's like, I
think that's a Max be over there and I want
FaceTime with her. She's like, I'm gonna go say what's up?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
And he goes yo.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Swerve was good, and then we made the studio session happen.
So we just did two tracks together. That's the universe.
It's like I said, like, I can't explain it.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
Like nah nah just yeah Bro, yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Max bb Bro, Swerve and Wavy Crockett, Wavy Crocket.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
He was such great energy too, and he just was on.
He's happy to be out, to be out. He was living.
He's living his life. He straight from vacation and went
right to the studio.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
No, that's right, went on vacation for the first time
in his life.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I guess right like eighteen years.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, that's that's my wrestling career. He was going my
entire wrestling career. That's starting to begin.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Yeah, and he got stuff on the radio, man, because
he's on the French joint. He's at a great class joint.
Like he came back ready.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
You could tell he had so much ready to just
like just unleash onto the world with a fresh mind,
fresh spirit. Friend. And when he went in shape too.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
When he went in, that's when he could have took off.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Yeah, you feel me. But he went in and then
you know you're talking about doing the bid. Man, My
man did that big? I think what we at first
they gave him seventy five years.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, yeah bro, yesterday, wild Bro, that's crazy. Do you
get to go on vacation? I just did like a
three day one, three days, three days bro. So once
again Rosie, Uh, she's she knows everybody in New York.
She been in New York for like all her life,
(25:47):
so she's cool. A side for sounds and he was
opening and DJing for Dave Chappelle. So we went to Ohio,
went to his compound. He went to the Ohio Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
So we got invited.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
We hung out with Dave Chapelle to like two am
the next morning. Smoke a cigarette, smoke not but with Dave.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
If he offers a cigarette.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Don't for me a drink. But I took a rebel.
But he was awesome like this. He set ended at
like at midnight and we just chilled with him until
like two. He served us jerk chicken and stuff like
you know the comedies stand up to the lock the
phone up. Yeah, so he didn't have our phone. We
did to take no pictures, but I'm like, this is
his experience. That's just yeah, it's just for you, It's for.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Us, and keep you in the moment too.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
That's what was the best thing about the night.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Everybody just had to mingle all the comedians that he
brought in, and like we just was just like you
can't be on your phone. Everybody was just interacting. So
it was actually like really cool. And the next day
we went to the Bambas.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
So he checked out his town.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
He owns half the town, right, he was.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Walking down the town. We're like, oh, there's day right there.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Yeah yeah, yeah, he owns the town. He purchased the town. Yeah,
it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
It's just a little small, like you can literally walk
one street through town. But it's really peaceful. It was
actually really peaceful town. Really cool.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
You have a great life. You live an amazing life.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
It's wild. It's wild, say the least. Like and like
I said, I wasn't pushing to try to do these things.
These are things that just happened.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
But good stuff happens to good people. Man.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I appreciate that. Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
And look at everything that's happening.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
There's still so much more to go. Yeah, bro, there's
still so that's what keeps me wanted to That's what
keeps me motivated. Still so much more to go. And like,
you know, I have Juliette over here. She's like always like,
well I've worked with this client. I'm like, that's stope.
I want to do that. So that's my next thing.
I know this person, that's cool. I want to do
that with that person, like like, oh well we have
(27:49):
these connections. I'm like I want to do that. That's
the next thing that keeps me. And she's like she's
like he'll actually get up off the couch and do it.
I'm like, that's right, I'll lie out. Yeah right, like yeah,
let's just do this.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
There's no time, like all right, we at the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
We did media at the super.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Bowl, you did the draft and the draft raft that
was there a lot of people in Pittsburgh, Bro.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
On day three there was still like one hundred thousand.
On the fourth and fifth round, sixth Brown, there was
still like one hundred thousand people like see full of people,
you know, stage and then on the stage and stuff,
and then like like hanging out with Roger Goodell. That's
like in the green room with like Michael Keaton.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Like what has happened?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That's batman, Bro. And he was such a sweet guy.
Roger Godell. They signed my draft card and now so
I got that signed by Michael Keaton and Roger Goodell
And can you ask for autographs? Do you ask for autographs.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Yeah, yes, they're not gonna tell him.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Like to me, I'm I'm a fan of them. I'm
a fan. I'm literally a fan of them, you know,
like I need to pick right, like we need a
I feel like it's good to know like your peers,
you're a fan of your peers too, you know, like
you know, like yeah, like you even like like even
in the locker room in a W I'm still inspired
(29:13):
by Jericho walking through. Wow, I'm still inspired by Sting
walking through. You know, Kenny Omega still inspires me. Like
I'm inspired by Adam Copan Edge and Christian you know,
I'm inspired by these guys. Still. I'm inspired by Tony Kahan.
You know, he's living his dream. A W is living
his dream, and he's done like the NFL and like
(29:37):
like the premier socer leagues and all that stuff. He's
done all that yacht in freaking world and all that stuff.
But his dream is a W and so we're making his.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Dream happen too.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
So everybody's like helping everybody else pursue their dreams. So
we're all fans of each other. I'm a fan of
Darby Allen, you know, for climbing Mount Everest. I would
never do that. Never, I would never think of gonna die.
He said. He literally walked past bodies on the trail
up there. They're like they're used as markers.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Right, Like, oh yep, that was Tim.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Sorry Tim, you're walking by them and you could It's
not like they're covered, you see, they're there, They're just open.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah. Yeah, because it's not even like it's not even
the freezing, he said. He said, it's literally the lung capacity.
They couldn't take it. Yeah, because because you have to
train for like months, you have to go up a
certain level and then go back down and then go
back up and go back up to get your like
the breathing, right, some people just go up and then
they're like done wild. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Has has anyone ever tried to, like, you know, some
some fans rich Father tried to hire you for a
personal appearance.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
No, maybe I haven't looked deep enough for my d ms.
I bet you dogs deals in there, bro. I've had
some friends that don't you go to get Juliette on them.
I'm like, you just need to do a backflip into
a cake sign me you're down here. I mean, when
we need you have three years old, so let's do this.
(31:02):
I'm like, yot, I get what. Totally make a viral moment,
make a TikTok and I'll boomerang. Let's do it whatever
we gotta do. Let's have fun. Yeah, that's and that's
honestly what it is is about finding the joy and
doing all this stuff. I literally find joy coming in
talking with people. They find joy like getting up and like,
(31:23):
oh I got it. I got stuff to do today.
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I find the joy in.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
The full calendar? Makes you happy?
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah that much. Kids and my kids made
me happy. How kids doing big? Yeah? Big sixteen or
fourteen sixteen, big, big, big hold of yours. G see you.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I got nineteen and seventeen, so it's just a little
ahead of you.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Man.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Girls boys too, I got girls. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
My youngest is now on guitar, so she's a guitar.
She's the musician. She's on guitar, bass, and keyboard.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
All at fourteen self taught. She doesn't. She finally started
asking for lessons, but she's just self taught.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Are they opposite personalities?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Very much, very much? So they're they're my yin yang.
She's over here, and then my youngest is over here.
There're spee splitting two because she's the oldest, is the athlete. Yeah,
there it is. Yea.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
They get mad at each other for stealing each other's clothes.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
No, like they don't really fight much at all, Like
they're really good at that. They're two different moms, so
they're two different households, but when they come together, they're
always like like they lock in. Yeah, you know, they
get annoyed like, oh, she's hogging this. Oh oh dad,
she's doing this. I'm like she They have that moment,
those moments, but other than that, I'm like, I'm like,
(32:46):
I'm like, just separate, y'all be back back on over
top of each other, and like by the time we
get home, that's right. And sure enough, they.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Don't want to sleep a seperate bests. They want to
sleep on the same bed and like that.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
They always want to like yeah, I'm like, listen, y'all
go wrestle. Figure this out.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
But my youngest is not the physical and she doesn't
want to fight. She's not a fighter. She's the artist.
She's the artist, the quiet one, artiste. The oldest one
is quiet as well. But she's emotional. She's she's the
emotional one for sure. Yeah, but she's the athlete.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
What is she playing?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Basketball?
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Basketball?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah? Yeah, I have the personal trainer. We did a
personal training thing with me and her, and like she's
a dog. Yeah. She was doing like goblet squats with
eighty pounds dumbbells. And this was like two summers ago.
She was fourteen then. Yeah, wow, yeah she was. She's
a dog. Yo. She doesn't want to wrestle, no, thank god.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
None of them do.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
They don't, none of them, neither one. That's okay with you?
Oh yes, oh yes, yeah, oh yeah. Let dad do
his work. Yep. You to live your lives. Yeah, I'm
falling on my back for you guys. That's right. That's
right man. I'm like, so you don't have to do
so you have options of what you want to do,
because I'm like me, I'm like, uh, you you were
born on I was eighteen, you were born when I
was twenty one. Wrestling is all I had, right, that's right, Yeah,
(34:05):
that's right. You guys don't have to go through that. Yeah,
you can choose what you want to do, right, If
you want to do nothing for a year.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
You're good.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
That's beautiful man, Yeah, good dad Gang Yeah, Man, that
is a blessing for sure. Man, Sweve, thank you for
your time, bro of course, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Man. You know you're welcome here in the time. We
get to talk new music.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I want to talk music.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I mean we totally could, man, if we're on schedule.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
No, we have time, Yeah, okay, yeah, because I'm like, okay,
I don't know if you got to go, you know
what I mean. I mean no, So you got like,
you got two albums at least that you can put
out right now, three at least three.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah, And I've been like not recording in the same space.
I've been in New York recording. You record out here
as well. Yeah, I'm about to record a night and
hit different.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
You drop that in this Devember November of last year, right, Yeah.
So it's still new, dog, it's still fresh. Yeah, I
still got like music Soul Child Records. I got a
couple of those ones and video with him.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
My first album was a couple of years ago. I
got Benny the Butcher on that. Like me and Bunn
Bee worked together. Man, so much stuff's been going on.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Do you have titles for the album.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
You have ideas, I'm still work shopping in with them.
I have the whole concept and everything together. I just
want like a universal thumbs up from everybody on the team.
I don't want one person be like I don't know,
like you don't want that. I want everybody to feel like, no,
this is we're confident about this. So now we just
like went through the whole catalog in the studio the
day before Maxby came in. We're just going like, Okay,
(35:34):
this checks off on this project. Okay, this sonically sounds
good for this one, this conceptually works for these and
we're just putting them over here. Then we're gonna go
right back over them again and go through it again.
Process in Florida with like freaking Corey, who's hype man
for Missy Elliott and stuff. And I've been I've been
(35:57):
all over the place always always.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Do you ever go into freestyle and be like, damn,
I did that too, Yep, you gotta feel.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
It right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
But I learned that from sant Ain't Tone, who works
with Big Sean and stuff. I did that in Detroit
with him, and he's just like, don't just go in
there with like just feel it, feel it, like you'll
be able to catch the cater. It's a lot easier
when you're not having you're not like stuck on something
that you've written. And so I'm learning that. I'm learning
these different techniques on approaching records and learning my vocal
(36:31):
muscles and how to like how I want to sound
emotion I want to yeah, yeah, conveying these things. You know,
like I have a great like core of like guys
that I'm like learning from. And then like I then
I could talk to like Isaiah Rashad, you know, for advice,
I can go to Big I've literally gone to Big
Sean about advice.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
He's a good dude. Man.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, So it's like that's I'm like, that's really crazy.
That's like at the hell Eric Bellanders in the studio
with dud and brilliant, brilliant, brilliant like teaching me bridge
bridges and records music.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
I'm like, it's so cool how you you get a
little piece of everything from different people minds that like
a lot of us can't really like just understand, but
when you're in those rooms with them, they're just like
so like I understand it now.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah, and it was to me, it was all about
getting in the room with people that have done it,
have an accomplishment and then and no more than me,
I got you know that, Like I'm always looking up
to you know.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
That's like it's helping me rise.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, It's also helped me gain my confidence too, like, oh,
I can wrap it front of way Kwan when I'm like,
I got my verse, I can do it right right.
That's it takes a lot of confidence, you know, and
you don't want to ball and it sounds you'll hear
it when you don't sound confident on the microphone.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Sure who listen to in your free time?
Speaker 6 (37:58):
School boy q hug You talk about confidence? Man, you
hit confidence right then and.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
There, and nobody delivers like him. Tyler like one of
the most stylish rappers yea out.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Run Bro Like look at the album's.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Generational run Bro. I relate to Tyler so much because
like early early Tyler career, it wasn't cool to like Tyler.
He was like there were so many other artists that
were like, no, not Tyler. Were looking at this guy.
We're looking at this guy. We're looking at this guy.
These are the this is the guys. It's going to
take the industry by storing for the next ten years,
(38:35):
it's going to be these guys. And for me, it
was like that's how I felt in wrestling. There was
all these other guys that were like ahead of me.
There was like he was hot one, he was the
hot one. These are the guys that's going to change
the industry. And then like as the year's going, we improved,
we improved, we evolved, we found our style, we found
our voice. Sure, we stayed ourselves too, and then when
(38:56):
it came our time to be on top, and we
grabbed it and we didn't look we didn't look back.
So I relate with Tyler's rise so much. Yeah, because
it came up as the weird kid, right.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I was the weird kid too, coming in.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I was the weird like like I don't get it, Swerve,
what does that mean? Like Tyler, like Tyler Crator, what
is here creating? You know? It was very like those
voices were very much the same. So I relate to
his whole journey Big Sean, I got swerved from from this.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Yeah, So say, man, sample that bro, I'm trying to ask.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
For his sample something.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Sample verse that'd be crazy, that'd be crazy. Who's the
dream collap music?
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Travis Travis Tyler.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
And I'll say my big three is Travis Tyler.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
And if if.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I put it down and do you know just three
guys matter of fact I want, I won't even keep
it to guys. I'll say Doc too incredible. I saw
her live in Tampa. Unbelievably talented her.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
That's just greatful former.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
And one thing I also noticed, this is the last
thing I'll say with artists. One thing I noticed about
Tyler and Doci and these certain artists like that even
asap the fans when they come to the shows, they
dress like the artists, and there's very few artists that
can pull that off. There's like, you don't have really
(40:32):
artists like that. I'm going dressed as so and so
I'm dressed as like Drake is starting to get there
with the rose and hair and all the impersonators and stuff.
So you're getting that a little bit more. But like Doc,
people came dressed as Doc into certain visit the class
inspiration Yeah, Tyler, the Cardigans and like that.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
When we went to freaking flogging, every igor was and everybody.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Had the like they are visual artists, like you can
literally dressed like them to prepare to go to their shows. Right,
That's one thing I caught like going to these shows.
I go to see everybody. Yeah, and now once.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
They're on your hairstyle, once they're on your wardrobe, and
they they they they connected that way.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Man, you gotta like wrestling.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Yes, exactly, once they were in your T shirt.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
But dressing like you.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
How many macho man Randy savage people. We see it
in subways and like stuff. You want to dress like
you who you are. So that's one thing I learned.
I picked up from watching these guys.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
Now, when I was a kid, I was whole coding
for Halloween for like three years straight. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
The pants were flooding, but I didn't want to let
it go. Bro, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
But like you know, it's just a fan and you
want to dress and be like them.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I'm out of time now, I gotta get out of here,
but I didn't want to leave. We appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
Yeah, we gotta get a wrap man, start bars, man,
you want to freestyle?
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Look he thought about it for a second.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
I was like, well appreciated, Thank you man all day yes, sir,
it's the Crui Show, Real Naty today.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Hey checking Richard with the Cruise Show.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
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