Talking Golf 07-14-25

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:22):
and Noveda Bob's Now, here's your foursome for Talking Golf.
Wisconsin Golf Hall of Famer Dennis Tizziani, Wisconsin Broadcaster Hall
of Famer Paul Brown, Wisconsin premier golf reporter Gary Dematto
and host of his daily statewide sports talk show, Mike Keller.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
And we welcome you in too, Talking Golf at TPC
Wisconsin on another beautiful summer night, middle of July weather,
it's great, golf course is fantastic, and we've got we
got a really good show lined up before you. We
get Steve Stricker out of the gates here in a moment.
Then we'll get Gary Tomato, which is he's Dennis his
favorite segment, and then we're gonna have Joe. Then we're

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gonna have Joe Pavelski who will join us. And he
just went up in Lake Tahoe Cool Century Championship, the
last told yeah, yeah, he had it won, and then
why not just go ahead and drain that and.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Uh seven the last sixteen hole.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, it's pretty good. Huh you bet yeah, And he's
a member here. I just thought i'd add that in
tis right.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well, you know, it's probably why he won the tournament.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
We let him in, you know, you.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Let him, you let him. Yeah, speaking a guy that
we're letting in now about Steve Stricker joining us right
out of the gates here, Uh, Stric, How you doing,
Bud good?

Speaker 5 (01:41):
How are you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:43):
We're doing all right? Have you had a chance to
be on a golf course with Joe Pavelski? Have you
seen him swing?

Speaker 6 (01:51):
I've seen him swing.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
I have not played him.

Speaker 6 (01:53):
Uh More importantly, I've been out in his fishing and
catching muskies with them. Oh yeah, way more fun playing golf,
I can tell you that.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah. So you know we talked. I've had talked to
mark O'seki about this. That fish of a thousand cast? Steve?
How many casts is it for you? Is it a
fish of a thousand casts? The muskie?

Speaker 7 (02:17):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (02:17):
Geez, lately it's been it's been a lot.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
I don't Yeah, it's probably been more than.

Speaker 6 (02:22):
A thousand for me lately, it's the place I go.
Has been tough fishing, but still still fun to get
out there.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
And what's the biggest one you ever caught, Steve? What's
the biggest one you ever caught?

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Stee?

Speaker 6 (02:36):
I caught a low fifty inch er. We're still debating
the length. It's either fifty one.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
Or fifty three.

Speaker 8 (02:42):
The guy, the guy who took.

Speaker 6 (02:44):
Me out there, was so excited that he was trying
to measure it and wasn't doing a very good job
of measuring it. And this is the guy who fishes
all the time and catches a bunch of fish, and
he was probably more excited than I was. And yeah,

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so it's either fifty one or fifty three. The guy
who was with me was We were trying to figure
it out too, and we just we don't know really
exactly what it was, but it was over fifty which
is which is the main thing. Fifty inch fish pretty big.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah it is. Well, let's get an update. We've it's
been a few weeks since we visited and out of
this tournament. Here a month and a half ago or
five weeks ago or so, you were not healthy. I
know you were getting, you know, trying to find your
avenue there. So tell us what you can about where
you are.

Speaker 6 (03:36):
Yeah, I haven't played that much, maybe a handful of
times from day to day, though I feel really good
when I start to play. I was playing every other
day there for a couple of week period and it
was it was fine. There's something still going on in
my left quadrant, arm, neck, something where I'm losing some

(04:00):
strength there somewhere along the line, so I may get
that taken care of surgically. I'm literally on the fence
about what to do, so I really don't know what
to do yet. But I feel I feel great, you know,
I've been Yeah, day to day stuff, I feel fine.

(04:20):
It's when I start to add the twisting motion in
it starts to get a little funky.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Are you are you missing the competition? That might sound
like a silly question. I apologize if it is, But
you miss right now not being able to compete. Have
you embraced some other things? How's that process played for you?

Speaker 9 (04:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (04:39):
You know, I a little bit of both. You know,
I don't miss I've been feeling I haven't been feeling
that well when I do practice and play, So yeah,
that part I don't miss, you know, I missed the
competition and all that, but the process of trying to

(05:01):
get ready and then going to the discomfort in my
lower back and that I'm not missing so much. So yeah,
it's kind of I've enjoyed the time away. Let me
tell you that I've you know, I'm I did a
lot of fishing. I was up north for three weeks,
and just I enjoyed that watching the girls play here today,

(05:24):
Nicky and Izzy at Maple Bluff and enjoy that without
me worrying about what I need to do. So that's
been that's been good.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Steve, there was an interesting article in Golf Digests recently.
You talk about practicing and that type of thing, and
part of the article is saying people go up to
a range and they just pound golf balls and they
don't really have a purpose in that kind of thing.
When you practice, what can you fill the average player
in and what they may want they go about working

(05:55):
on their game and that kind of thing.

Speaker 6 (05:59):
Yeah, I think whatever whatever they need to work on,
I think is what you should go work on, you know.
I mean, I think people get in the trap of
practicing only the things that they're good at and I'm
also not a great long iron player. I need to
spend the time and work on that aspect of the game.
So yeah, I think the trap is where you just

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hit the ball and practice the things that you're good at,
when deep down you really need to practice the things
you're not good at and get in get out of
your comfort zone and try to try to figure those
kind of things out so you can become a better
player overall. But yeah, and I think it's just the
quality of time. Practice smart you know, whether it's using

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training aids, but making sure you use those training aids correctly.
I mean, there's so many things that can go wrong
with the training aid you know, you could practice the
wrong thing with those things, so you really, you really
you got to know what you're doing, I think, and
practice smartly and practice the right things.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Let's take it to the putting green with the same philosophy.
Maybe what your thought is there and what you work
on when you're putting is one of the main things.
Learning to leg and get control so you don't three
putt is that part of it.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
Yeah, for sure, And that comes down to hitting it
solid every time. You know, if you mishit it, hit
it on the toe, hit it on the heel, hit
it on the bottom, you know, whatever it may be.
Then your speed is compromised. So and then you know,
you play for the mishit and all of a sudden
you hit it solid, and you hit it, you know,

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eight feet past. So I think it's the consistency of
hitting it solid, you know. And I think that's the
biggest thing. If someone can just try to hit the
sweet spot every time, you'll get a more consistent role.
You know, your distance control will be better and probably
hold more putts.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Steve, you mentioned that you were at Maple Bluff today
the day day won thirty six holes of the women's
State Amateur Nikki had a couple of tough holes. Izzy
is right there through thirty six holes. She's one shot back.
What did you see in her game today?

Speaker 6 (08:10):
Yeah, very impressive. You know what she does, you know
from Teita Green, she's really pretty solid. And I just
talked to her when she finished, and it's you know,
it's a lot of the little things yet for her,
you know, the wedge play and she knows it and
you know, up and down around the green. She hit
it in the bunker at number nine and two and

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didn't really have that heard a bunker shot and you know,
hit it to fifteen feet and on the wrong side
of the hole. So stuff like that where she three
putted from eleven feet. A couple of times she four
putted from her first hole of the afternoon, she four
putted from off the fringe. So I mean a lot
of the little things that will really really make a

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big difference in her game because she's really impressive, you know,
gives it the full monthy release every time. You know,
she just gets in there and smacks it, and that's
the impressive part. So when that short game and the
little stuff catch up for her, she's she's going to
be really in.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
A good spot.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
And that that response as well, correct. I mean, I
believe she shot seventy seven in the morning round and
then even par in the afternoon, and that's a mentality
sometimes the bulldog in her a little bit that you
saw this afternoon.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
Yeah, I mean when you start off, you know it
was actually a three putt. I mean she was on
the fringe. I guess she told me still it was,
but you know, when you got to put her in
your hand from the fringe and only maybe twenty feet away.
You know, that was a putter problem. And yeah, when
that when that catches up, she just doesn't put enough

(09:50):
time into that putting and short short game wedge play yet,
you know. And she when she goes and puts for
a half hour, she thinks that's a long time. And
trying to get across to her that it's like, you
know what, you got to spend an hour to two
hours every day for a while, you know, for weeks,
you know, and just you got to just keep hammering

(10:11):
it out. And that's to get really good at something,
you got to put in those hours. And she's a teenager.
She's having fun, she's doing all these things. So golf
golf isn't you know, necessarily a priority for her yet.
But she's she's doing really well.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
We're chatting with Steve Stricker. Steve, where's Bobby at in
your mind? And how is she progressing?

Speaker 5 (10:37):
I'll talk to my Mom's just leaving.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
I was saying bye to my mom. She she's down
in Talls, Oklahoma this week. Uh, she had a top
ten last week, tied for seventh out on the w
A P T Tour. And she's, you know, she feels
like she's in a really good spot too. You know,
her her swing is coming together, she's feeling better about it.

(11:02):
She gets a little too much wrapped up in her swing,
you know, and doesn't really go and play and get
it around. But she's she's doing some good things and
looking forward to She's pointing towards the tour school which
is in September for this year, so she'll go ahead
and give that a try. But she really enjoys what
she's doing.

Speaker 8 (11:21):
She loves to travel.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
She travels with some friends, they rent places, they are together,
and Bobby really likes that part of it, you know,
the social part of it, the travel and.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Then the golf.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
She she really works hard at it and she's starting
to see some benefits to her hard work. So talk
to her every day and she's got a really positive
attitude and it's kind of fun to follow her along too.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Steve, a couple of final thoughts before we let you go.
Mario is gonna go overseas and and play in the
in the Senior British. You did do that much? What
is in store for him as he heads over to.

Speaker 6 (12:03):
That well, I played in a bunch of the regular
British and.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Yeah, it's a.

Speaker 6 (12:11):
It's a treat, It really is. I mean, once you
get kind of adjusted to the time and all that
kind of stuff, it's it's a it's a great opportunity
to play where the game was originated. And he's super excited.
They're going to a parkland course this year, so it

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won't be like Link Style or anything like that, so
he'll it'll feel a little bit more home, homie, I
should say, you know where it's a little bit more recognizable,
you know. And but I heard its wonderful place. And
he's super fired up and looking forward to his family's

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going to join him over there, so they're making a
trip out of it all. And yeah, he's playing some
good golf too.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Stave one Final one. Now that the tournament has gone,
it's about a month or so away. Anything new in
terms of takeaway or from what you're hearing or what
you feel about the first tournament here at TPC.

Speaker 6 (13:15):
Yeah, nothing but positive feedback. We've heard, you know, they
loved the format, they loved the course. The course was
in great shape. From a fan experience, we heard that
the fans really enjoyed it. The venue. TPC Wisconsin.

Speaker 8 (13:35):
Host this very very well.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
The people liked how they could see across the golf
course and see a whole bunch of activity going on,
you know, on different holes, and it just was all
in all, it was really good, you know, and super
fun as a player to play that type of format too.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Steve, finish with this. You might not be able to
answer it. But do you think where you are right now,
do you think you'll play on the Champions Tour again
yet this season?

Speaker 8 (14:08):
No?

Speaker 5 (14:08):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (14:09):
I really don't. Maybe in December the PMC with Izzy
if if we get invited, But other than that, no,
I don't. I think I just need to try to
wire this down and figure it out. And I'm getting there,
and I'm you know, I've got a surgery date schedule.

(14:31):
Whether I do it or not, that's what I have
to kind of contemplate, talk to some other people about
and get some more information and feedback and and go
from there.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
All right, very good, Hey, it's good to hear your voice.
Thanks for what you do. We'll look forward to the
next time we get a chance to visit.

Speaker 6 (14:48):
I appreciate you guys, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Thank you, Steve. That's Steve Stricker joining us and tis
you probably knew that as I asked the question that
you might have known that you didn't think he was
gonna play again this year.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
No, you shouldn't play. Yeah, you know, anytime you get
an injury and you start making your golf swing, adapting
to your swing, it's a problem. Get her done. That's
what he needs to do in July. He's scheduled to
have it, so Jill, and then he's got to recover.
So here it goes a couple of months, sure, and
before too long, you know, he'll be back at it.

(15:23):
You know, I still think his history is in his future.
And now he gets this out of the way. There's
not too many people who play consistently every club like
he does, and he'll play again.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
I had one more I wanted to ask him, but
maybe you can answer this, Dennis. Somebody had that's a
member here at TPC told me to ask him. Does
he still use a specific titleist golf ball that's not
part of the current group. Yes, why does he do that?
And what is it?

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Just because ball keeps getting All I want to do
is bag go further, make it harder. Anytime. The best
ball you can get is the softest covered ball you can,
one that sticks to the clubhead and then you shake
it off, you roll it. Now, you know he making
mention of hitting there's no such thing as hitting in

(16:17):
a putt. Yeah, no such thing. And this is part
of the deal. You know that he teaches feel and
I teach physics. But that's for somebody to settle down
and to learn the physics. They'd rather hit balls than
think they get the field. I watched these, You know,
most there's only one move that you're there's only one
conscious move that you have to make in this golf swing. Shoulder. Well,

(16:39):
for you, you're up or right, but everybody else is
up or left. And what happens between there and hip Hi,
that's where the game is. You've had to know what's
going on there. But anyway, people go ahead and hit
balls and practice. What the hell are you working on?
Why don't you take instead of spending six million dollars
for a driver, why don't you go to somebody who
knows what the hell's going on about this golf swing?

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Which golf ball?

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Is it?

Speaker 8 (17:03):
For?

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Titleists?

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Do you know?

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Do they still make I'm.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Going to tell you, oh no, it's.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Like I think it's the twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Isn't that something when you think about it.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Oh, it's got to be soft. Years ago, there was
a ball. I just trying to think of the pro
blue or I think there was a ball like that.
This goes back now, you know, forty years or so.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
You're talking about a ballata cover.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Yeah, but a real soft ball when you were able
to change balls on the green. Sure, okay, yeah, and
you take this and I put this ball down. It's
so soft, and you put it right on, sticks to
your putter and then you can shake it off. This
ball explodes, it's its skids, doesn't roll off the putter
like he's talking about hitting the putt. No such thing.

(17:46):
My granddaughter hits the putt, that's why. But she makes
a lot of putts too, but she misses so many. Yeah,
as good as she has. To get this down of
how this thing works, you know. I mean again we're
back on the business. You know about it. You can't
have an opinion on it, an opinion effect. The long
you was coming, well, you don't you believe that the

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longer the blades stay squared to the ball coming towards
the Baltimore Acrod. You'll be yes. Do you believe that
your shoulders make the plane? Yes? Do you believe that
the plane is your lying? So shouldn't your shoulders work
on that plane? And then your practice should be put
the putter behind the ball. Now, just move the putter forward.
I try your head. Iowt her head. Just move the

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putter head and when you do it, you'll see when
you roll it. Oh, it looks like the ball goes
off the toe. That's what it should do because the
butter is going to the inside, or it goes sweet spot.
That's you know. There's uh. I could go on.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
And I know you know this here, but we got
to take a commercial.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
Oh, go ahead, it's more important anyway. People don't know
what the hell I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
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Speaker 2 (22:09):
I always look forward to this segment we get a
chance to visit with Gary Tomano. I know it's his
favorite segment of the day. And uh, you know, Gary's retired.
I don't know if you knew that.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
Tis so he's more tired than retired.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Well, he's retired, so he spends a lot of time
at golf courses. Now he's in Brainerd, Minnesota fishing.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Is he fishing up there?

Speaker 2 (22:28):
There's golf up there. You guys are golf up there
in Brainerd.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Oh, yeah, there's golf.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
And let me tell you, you've heard of the middle
of nowhere. Well, the middle of nowhere is a metropolis
compared to where I am. This is this is the
middle of nowhere. But it's there's some great golf up here.
Tom Layman designing courses at a place called Kragan's Resort,
And I'm here for four days and I'm going to
be playing some golf. And uh, last night you guys
were working.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Sorry, good for you. Well, we're glad that you get
to do that now when you so, when I was
talking to Steve, when we had Steve on in the
first segment, we're talking about Joe Pavelski winning this week,
and we'll get to that in just a moment. But
they want to talk about fishing. You're a golf guy,
and my guess is that you don't fish, or do you.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
You know, I don't fish. Last time I went fishing
was on Lake Michigan and it was probably thirty years ago.
I am not a fisherman. But if he wanted to fish,
let me tell you, Darrel, you're what are.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
You doing there?

Speaker 2 (23:31):
What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Here's golfing, he's golfing, writing stories about golfing.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Oh, he's playing bingo? Is that what he said?

Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'm not sure. I think he's I think he's just golfing.
I don't I don't think there's I don't think he's
playing bingo, and I don't think he's fishing. But there
are a lot of people that go there to fish.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
There's bingo going on right now at TPC.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
I'll be there.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
You're both racing over there. Well, what about Pavelski. That's
another great story.

Speaker 8 (23:57):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
He has been so good and so close. He's going
to join us just after the bottom of the hour.
But he got to win out in Lake Tahoe and
he's a tremendous golfer.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Yeah, that was really cool.

Speaker 8 (24:09):
To see.

Speaker 5 (24:09):
I mean you mentioned his close cause I know he
lost to Romo in the playoff for a couple of
years ago. He's finished second or third like the last
three or four years running. So but you know, he
retired from hockey last about a year ago, and I'm
guessing he's really worked on his game. He already was
a good player, and I think he's taken another step
up with this game. So that, Yeah, that was cool

(24:30):
to see. You know, Prover's Joe Pavelski winning the American
Semtry Championship.

Speaker 8 (24:35):
I enjoyed that.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Oh he joined a good club.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Of the winners that have been out there.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
No this club.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Oh, he joined a good club, joined a good.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Club, got where he could play beat everybody.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
You know, Garry, have you heard any rumors about a
development in the state of Minnesota involving Jim Nance in
a group? Have you heard about something like that?

Speaker 5 (24:59):
But I'll tell you I'm in Minnesota, so I'll keep
my ear to the ground and see if anyone's talking.
I'm actually with eleven other golf fighters were on the
trip here and we're playing golf over the next three days.
It's supposed to rain, but that's all right, But maybe
one of these writers have heard about.

Speaker 8 (25:13):
It or know about it.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
But I'll just curious if I can find out.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah, Also, what do you want to do?

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Supposedly there's a rumor that there's a group, including Jim Nams,
that are looking at putting a big development somewhere in
the state of Minnesota for golf. But I have no
idea if it's.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
True or not. Well, well he would, yeah, I don't
get it.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Well, listen, Nan says he's dabbled in the wine. He's
got a wine called the Hauling.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
He loves golf.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Oh, he loves golf. I mean's what he was doing.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
In college, him and Fred Couples.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
You, yeah, roommates, I believe.

Speaker 8 (25:48):
Right.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
You know what his main goal is now the rest
of his career. He wants to do the fiftieth Master. Yes,
that's it, right, Gary.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
We mentioned when we visited with Steve. I don't know
if you heard that, Steve I was not able to hear.

Speaker 8 (26:01):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
So we finished by asking him if he thought he
would play another Champions Tour event this year, and his
direct answer was no. So I think you know he's
he's going to move in the direction trying to surgically
maybe get fixed what is ailing him. But it sure
sounds like like this season. And we speculated or thought

(26:23):
maybe as much, but that is appears to be the
case that his season is over.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
Yeah, I'm really sorry to hear that.

Speaker 8 (26:29):
You know, I wrote a little.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
Bit about it a week ago in my Sweetpot Notes
Coln that he probably was going to pull the plug
on the season. Sorry to see that happen. But you know,
the main thing is for Steve to get healthy, whatever
it takes to get healthy, so he can enjoy the
game again and play, you know, to the level that
he's used to playing. You know, I watched him, you know,
I followed him during the AMFAM Championship and he really

(26:51):
gutted it out. I mean, he and Mario played great
together and they made a lot of plots. But Steve's
hit a bunch of shots, right, which I'm sure Dennis
has probably talked about, which which he never does, and
that had to go to to his health, you know,
to the back problem that he's been dealing with. So
I just hope he gets at six and he comes
back as good as ever.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Let me finish with one with you and then We're
gonna have Joe Pavelski on after the bottom of the hour.
What a topic that I'm going to touch on a
little bit later in today's show. Get your thoughts. If
you had to rank the four Majors, where would they
sit in order of priority or prestige? However you would
define that? Of the four majors on the PGA Tour,

(27:31):
how would you rank them?

Speaker 5 (27:33):
Well, you know, I would rank the Masters number one.
I think if you asked, I think most players would
say they they'd love to win the Masters because of
the lifetime exemption and the Green jacket and the fraternity
that they would be joining. And then I'd put the
US Open second, and then I'd have a tie for
third with the Open Championship and the PGA Championship, and

(27:57):
I'd love them all. I mean, they're all great, They're
all different in their own eight. But you know, I'm
looking forward to watching the Open Championship this week and
that's so much fun to watch on TV early in
the morning.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Gary, You're be happy to know because it's We're going
to end this segment here shortly. But uh, Chis doesn't
agree with you. There might be a different one than
he would put number one. But we'll get to that later.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
We'll get to that. I mean if we go there now,
we won't get to Joe Pavelski. That's right, that's right,
is going to have to sure.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
He was shaking his hat. He's going no, no, no, no,
this is wrong.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Just so you know, you know it is. This is
an opinion, not a fact, but this conversation.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Oh, he's a writer, Okay.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
He's got an opinion. Hey, Gary Demoto, have a blast
up there in Brainerd, you and your golf writer buddies
with a chance to play golf for a few days.
Hope you enjoy the heck out of it, and we'll
visit again next week.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
Thanks so much, guys, Thanks again.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Thank you Gary, Gary Demotto joining us. He's in Brainerd, Minnesota,
and he will not wet a line. He's not gonna
do any fishing.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
Well, he's there, no fishing for his ball out of
the water.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
That's right. That extender, the ball retriever. Joe Pavelski won
over the weekend in Lake Tahoe, and Joe Pavelski will
be our guest when we come back. This is talking
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Speaker 4 (32:29):
So here we go.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Back at GPC Wisconsin on a beautiful summer night, talking
about golf and talking golf is the name of the show.
My name is Mike, Paul Brown, Dennis Tizziani here, Dave mccannon,
pushing all the right buttons. And then we welcome in
Joe Pavelski, who had a pretty darn good weekend in
South Lake Tahoe, Nevada. Joe Pavelski the champion in that

(32:50):
tournament played over the weekend. The American Century Championship wrapped
it up on Sunday. Joe, congratulations, that is awesome.

Speaker 8 (32:58):
Yeah, thank you very much. Yeah, pretty special ninth year.
There had some close calls, a few second place recently,
and it's nice to get over the hump.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Finally, what is that getting over? We talked about this
a lot with Dennis over the years, about getting comfortable
in those moments, being comfortable, being uncomfortable. You've got a
long hockey background. It's such a different sport as far
as tempo and intensity. But what was the difference for
you then this weekend.

Speaker 8 (33:30):
It's a great question. Uh, and it's I would like
to think my golf career is just getting started and
the celebrity side of it, but I've been at it
for a little bit. You get in the one or
two tournaments. Last year I played great. I think I
had seventy eight points last year and Fish had eighty
Marty Fish had eighty three. I had a better score

(33:53):
than this year. So part of it's playing the course.
Part of it's your competition. You got to go and
beat everybody, so you maybe need a little bit of
luck along the way and find the right numbers. But yeah,
you're always just trying to figure it out as you
go from tournament to tournament, and this year it was
just going into it. It's like you have so many

(34:13):
close calls you want to just you have to have
that patience to put yourself there at the end and
hopefully do a little bit more too with it this time.
And I was able to kind of make the turn
right there, tied and just played a rock solid Back.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Then, Joel, I was watching the tournament with a lot
of enthusiasm and that type of thing. At the end,
you showed a lot of emotion and grab and I
believe it was your son and that kind of thing
also part of For an example, like the Badgers when
they won their last NCAA championship, in two thousand and six.

(34:52):
Is there any difference in that team environment winning something
versus doing it as an individual.

Speaker 8 (35:03):
It's an interesting one because you got the teamy battle
all year and you go, you know, you play so
many competitive games, so many hard practices golf as it's
very individual. I don't I think everyone would tell you
they've only get to a certain place with a group,
and not saying that I have this big group behind us.

(35:24):
But we've had the same crew out in Tahoe pretty
much for all nine years. As some great friends from
San Jose come up. Katie's been on the bay. One
of my best man in my wedding, his wife's there,
my son was there, if Sarah was there, and you know,
they've been through all the close calls and all that
type stuff. So it's you win, and everyone's exciting for you. Y'all.

(35:48):
They've been there through it all, So there's definitely a
team aspect to it and the feeling and in your
group and they're cheering for you and watching a nice
slow five five and a half hour around that time.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
No kidding, but it's a blast.

Speaker 8 (36:03):
It's a party out there. There's I think I heard
there was one hundred and two thousand, six thity or
something people that came to the gates this crazy. It
was massive, The crowds were massive. It was awesome. And
knew it pretty much once. I think Jake missed his chip.
Fore all I could do just about whatever I wanted.
And to see that putt go in it was and

(36:25):
to know you still won and the emotions were there,
they were there coming down the back stretch this. I
had one fan kind of chirped me a little bit
on sixteen te talking about Servis and you know, went
and piped that one and hit probably my two best
drives of the week on sixteen and eighteen. You know.

(36:45):
So there's a little bit of competitiveness. You want to
get it done, you want to step up, hit some
great shots, and if you don't go find the next.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
One, well, I'm really curious about the the environment because
you you're paired with different players throughout these years that
you've done it, and they all have incredibly entertaining and
interesting backgrounds. Yet you're trying to focus on playing your
round of golf. How much chatter is there in your
group when you're playing with some really interesting people with

(37:11):
great backstories.

Speaker 8 (37:12):
Yes, awesome backstories and awesome people and uh, you know
late with Jake Owens on Friday and Marty Fish on Friday,
and then Jaco Owens and Twelmen on Sunday again, and
we had a lot of fun play with twelve min
a practice round, know them well, played with from the
last group in Portland, Maine, and you just know how

(37:35):
competitive everyone is. But we're still not so stubborn that
we're not going to have fun out there, you know.
So there's times where it's not going. It's like all right, boys,
like let's like reset, let's have a little fun, enjoy
the game a little bit. And then when it gets
down to it, you're you're you want to beat that guy.
And everybody out there knows how to be a competitor.

(37:55):
That's that's probably the biggest thing I take from that tournament,
especially the athletes that are retired and the current ones.
It might not be our first sport, but we know
the competitive side of the game and it's there.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Joe is the impact position, particularly to say, and when
you shoot the puck and when we hit the.

Speaker 8 (38:14):
Golf ball, it's similar. I think you know that connection
point down there, you know, as far as the sticking
a ball sport, similar hands help out at times, but
golf is still a game where it's a practice sport
and it's a repetition sport and getting some feels and
kind of getting that feel through the graph at times

(38:35):
and different lines. It's it's harder to hit the ball
that's not moving than the one than the one that
is moving, and there's just so many more little things
that you can do or that can affect your shot.
So you know, the commitment side of it and kind
of having those feels and plaining enough is a big
portion of that. And then I think with hockey, one

(38:57):
thing that I've heard someone say before was like a
season's line up perfect growing up. Got my game to
a good spot in high school, and then when I
did start playing college and pro, it was, you know,
you get your training session in in the morning and
then you were kind of free to do what you want,
and golf was one of those things I love to do.
So we played a lot of golf and was always
able to keep the game at a good spot.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Joe Pavelski joining us on Talking Golf. We had Steve
Stricker on off the top of the show, and I
asked him if you guys had golf together. He said no,
but he's seen you swing, but you have fish together.
So you got a fishing story with Steve.

Speaker 8 (39:31):
It's funny. Yeah, he's netted a nice forty seven inch
musky for me and maybe two of them. Actually we
were only fished together more than we've golfed together. And yeah,
I love spending time with them. I at the earlier
I had more time off obviously start of the summer,
and I sent him a text. I was like, Hey,
I want to talk wedges. He's like, yeah, no problem

(39:52):
in town. Actually I'll come by. He dropped off three
wedges and I was like, oh, this is awesome getting
hit under wedges and talks apps a little bit. But
I want like some kind of tips, right, Yeah, you know,
I thought Travis one day, just talking making sure I'm
on the right path as far as trying to figure
out the yardage distances and how to get different numbers

(40:17):
and the crew out there at TPC there's just a
ton of golf, which is one of the beautiful things
about that course. You can feel the people out there
want to get better and learn, and there's enough resources
out there for that so awesome conversation is definitely gonna
play with him. He shot me at text last night.
Jerry Kelly shot me one today. So all that stuff's

(40:38):
pretty cool. You know, get one from Willie Z down
in Dallas. You know those types of things that it's
just great people in the sports world that you know,
are cheering.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
For each other, Dennis, How cool is it when you
got somebody like Joe who was a star in hockey
and also a great player in in golf, and a
lot of people probably don't appreciate the talents that's available there,
so to speak.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
He's got some talent, there's no question about it, but
he's missing a couple of things.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Oh, Joe, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
Oh I'm not sure he mentioned it at the end.
You know, he finally got to a golf course that's
a real course. That's number one. The second thing where
he's way out in front of people, he understands about
this term to drag the toe. These guys don't say nothing.

(41:34):
Don't say nothing because these guys shouldn't know anything. It's
between you and I about dragging the toe. And uh,
I've had you know, I grew up in the in
the episode up there grew up, you mean, in the
Upper Peninsula, and I went to Michigan. I went to
Michigan Tech, and there there was all these good hockey players,

(41:56):
all from Canada, they were, and then they bember. They
were members of my dad's club out of them, but
they understood about what I meant about. They're dragging the
toe and how that works. And he's got a natural
ability to do that. And someday he'll ask the right
people about chipping and sort of stuff like, and then
we'll be able to really help him, you know. But yeah,

(42:16):
Stevie gave him a club. It's not the arrow, buddy, you.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Know, that's not what it is.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
You know.

Speaker 8 (42:23):
Anyway, times I was coming down i think it Saturday
at one point, and I was just scratching my head
a little bit, and I'm thinking, you know what, I
have to get better.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 8 (42:35):
There's way more I can do, way more, But it's
going to take a little bit of time.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
Well, you know, you.

Speaker 8 (42:42):
Let's refocus kind of get back to what you know.
I'm more interested in that is, and find a way
to get it done here this year and.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
More interested I'm more interested in that boy.

Speaker 8 (42:53):
Though, yeah, me too.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
That's the guy right there. That's the guy right there.

Speaker 8 (43:00):
That's the guy who playing a lot of golf this summer.
And he followed every shot. He came right from the
warm up yesterday, you know. And we're leaving there and
he's like, all right, Dad, I want to get in this.
The more some tournaments I got to start experiencing this,
I think he definitely has the.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
Edge for it.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
That's I got to see him a little bit shake.

Speaker 8 (43:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah, Hey, Joe, congratulations. I mean we could see the
thrill it was for you. That was as enjoyable as
your round of golf was. Watching how excited winning that
tournament was for you, and having your family and all
those close friends there with you. We appreciate you sharing
some of that with us, and congratulations.

Speaker 8 (43:38):
Yeah. People will never know how much this tournament means
to me, and I think to the guys out there
that win it, and it's just so much bigger than
you can even imagine. You get out there, pet of juices.
They treat us unbelievable. It's the best week of the summer.
Cross out there in that setting, and yeah, the emotions
were all there. I knew I was in a good spot,

(44:00):
hitting good shots coming down eighteen, you know, the forearms
are kind of tingling and you're getting excited and he's
just trying to commit to the next shot. It's pretty
cool and it's what you want and it's why we
do it and why we look forward to it every year.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Well, congratulations, thanks for talking out with us and well done.

Speaker 8 (44:18):
Yeah, thank you guys.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Joe Pavelski joining us, that's pretty good. And really, I
mean how much that means to him.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
Oh, it's not a doubt whatever, winning a national thing.
Oh yeah, Well talks about that more than his hockey career.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Yeah, it's really good.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
And he had a great career. He played eighteen years
in the NHL, thirteen hundred plus game score with thousand
or more points, the.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
All time leading goal scorer of an American born player
in the Stanley Cup playoffs.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
From Plover, Wisconsin.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
Wait till he gets to that comment about dragging a toe.
I got him. He didn't know what to say about that,
but he knew what I was talking about. He'll be here,
but he's got a young son that we're interested in
moving along, and so is he, and that's where.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
We'll put They're out here together a lot, no question, he.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
Loves it here.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
You know, Mike, what I'd be interested in down the
road someday is obviously Joe has worked and had been
coached by a lot of different people. If he comes
down here and asks for help or 'tis I'd like
to ask Joe later.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
How was that?

Speaker 2 (45:27):
How'd that thing go? How'd that work?

Speaker 4 (45:29):
You have to shut up for a while. But after
a while, like anything, after a while, like anything, the
player the student. Really you'll under you'll recognize that a
student is learning something when he she talks back to you.
Correct and they start talking back. Now we win. This
is what if you just sit there and like you do,
say nothing, say I mean you know.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
There it is, take a break. I want to get
down his rankings of the majors because he disagreed with you.
You're going like this, you got it wrong.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
I want it wrong. He want to he rights left
handed even I.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Want to hear what the correct answer is. TIS will
get all right. I think I'm pretty sure we'll get
to that when we come back. This is talking golf
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Speaker 2 (49:25):
Back with you talking golf, Paul Brown, Dennis Dizziani, I'm
Mike Keller and tis. Earlier, when I was talking to
Gary Tomato about how he would rank the major championships,
you were shaking your head. Now, I the question was
how he would rank them. He put the Masters first.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
Only because he gets a free meal.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
He put the Masters first. No, well, what is your order?

Speaker 4 (49:53):
US Open? Okay, the British Open?

Speaker 5 (49:56):
Hold?

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Now hold?

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Can I take you back one step?

Speaker 6 (50:00):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (50:00):
God?

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Well, the US Open. But you don't like how the
USGA handles the US Open, Like you don't like that?

Speaker 4 (50:07):
Wasn't the question, correct?

Speaker 2 (50:08):
I just want to make sure that I understand where
he said. You say that in part because it's our
national championship.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
Well, it's it's open to the world. Yeah, anybody can qualify. Next,
you got the British Open. Same thing. Now the third,
Now you can go to Augusta.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
And I put PGA last because you know they have
they throw this little bone out to the PGA of America,
the standard guys you know who work there, and there's
thirty players in there. There's thirty players who take a
spot from thirty pro players who are trying to play. Yeah,
it's a weak field, right when you get to that. Now,

(50:55):
out of those thirty players, nobody made the cut, right,
And I got a guy, now this a little bit
about it. I got this kid. I know, he plays
really good on the Senior Tour, and he was an
alternate to that. Here's a guy who finishes in the
top twenty in the Senior Tour every day and he
can't play. Now, he's one of a bunch. But that's

(51:16):
why I rank it. You know, US Open is still
the best. You win the US Open, you've won something
at Augusta. Think about it. Ninety players invite, invite, you know,
half of them can't play with the damn anyway, especially there,
so you reduce the field, right, So I put that

(51:38):
in third place from a repertoire stamp, you know that
sort of thing. And the PGA, because you don't have
a full field of real players. You're throwing a bone
out to those guys who pay their dues to get
into the event. Not a one of them made the cut,
you know. And I was one of those, by the way,

(51:58):
I had to qualify to get in there. But even
still I made the cut. So but that being said,
good for me. But you know that's how I would
rank it US Open, British Open, and they're real close. Yeah,
then you can put Augusta in and Augusta because they
buy radio time. They got all these people there and
it's more of a social event than it is anything. Yeah,

(52:23):
you know that's my feeling. You know, they screwed the
course up when they try to make a tiger proof
that's number one, made all those wholes so long and everything?
What is that? You know? Anyway, that's my fear for
these still, that's right. PGA lasts because of what they
do and the other team because that's an invite and

(52:44):
this tournament here, you've got to play golf to play there,
and especially the branch are very very close to being
one and very close to ty. That's just me.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
You know, you got another question on that or I've
got something of a follow?

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Well, I know we need to take one more break,
am I correct, We're gonna tell you. How about we
follow on the other side. Just sorry, we have enough time.
We'll take one more break as we continue talking golf
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Speaker 2 (56:16):
With you our final shorts. I've been a few minutes
with you before we wrap talking golf for another Monday night,
beautiful Monday night in July. 'tis I want to get
We've got longer conversations to have about the tour and
some of the moves that they're making, both with the
FedEx Cup and the card carrying members on tour. We'll
get to that table at for next week. It's too

(56:37):
long of a discussion for the window that we have.
Let me just ask you about the weather. Because weather,
we've had a very hot and humid run of conditions
and all golf courses react a little bit differently. So
what is the weather? You have to pay attention to
that big, big time right.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
Well, you know a lot of courses, especially the older courses,
have polls poe in, which is really a weed. But
I'll you know, really good. But even even here at
this one hundred percent, if you have a combination of
temperature of one fifty temperature and humidity, you can lose
that poe in four hours. Yeah, got a water the
hell of a turn purple on you. I can remember

(57:18):
it some courses looking at some of the course, even
in town, looking and watching that whole fair away turn purple.
So a combination of that heat. Well, now we had
one hundred degree temperature and seventy eighty degrees humidity. No
grass can hold up to that, So that's going to
be a difficult deal. People are rallying and getting ready
to I know, we are here. We had to stop

(57:38):
what we were doing and narify. We had to do a
lot of things. Now we recovered, okay, but you know,
there's a lot of places that don't maybe have the
wherewithal to do all the things that we did in
order to save that grass.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Yeah, and that's that's a huge part. And know, in
spending time in the mid South and the South for
a few years when I was first got it a
little bit into golf, the airflow is always an issue.
You see the big fans behind greens, yeah, and and
the things. But you have to pay attention every day, yeah,
every day.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
Every hour. Yeah we can watch it now, our guys
are out there, you know, every hour. But we rallied,
we got through with the tournament. We tried to maintain
the same type of conditions after the tournament. That's wrong
next year, right after the tournament is done, then we'll
do this restructuring right away. We won't wait. So you know, uh,
you live and learn you know this is new for us,

(58:32):
new being you know everything. Yeah, yeah, all that sort
of stuff. But I feel bad for some of these courses.
You know, they're going to struggle like hell, and they're
cutting thills greens down, and you're always stressing, and.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Well they uh will they let you uh into the
Bengo game late here Now.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
I own it. Oh seventy through, I own it.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Bengo.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
They already told me that they're going to lock the door.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Not that's great. Be my fourteen Dennis one again.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
Yeah. Right, if I ever won, I get booed off.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Yes, you would right out. We're gonna come back and
do this again next week. What a fun show. Thanks
to Steve Stricker and Joe Pavelski and Gary Demondo for
joining us. We'll talk to you again next week talking
golf at TPC wiscond Bring