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Speaker 1 (00:09):
From various locations via the miracle of Skype.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
It's the LTNR.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Let's talk Nascar with your host, Todd Bailing, co hosts
Brian Schmidt, PJ Newdleman, and producer Dangerous Dan Margetta. Call
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
Nine oh one. And now the creator and host of
the Fastest hour and Radio, Todd Veiling.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
And welcome to the program everybody. It is Easter Sunday.
For those of you who celebrate. I hope you have
a wonderful day. Go find them eggs. Good Bailing in
beautiful Greendale, Wisconsin. Joined by my partners, all located in
the state of a Wisconsin, starting with Brian Schmid over

(01:02):
in Utsburg, USA.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Hi, Brian, Happy Easter, Yes, welcome back to the state
of Wisconsin. Tod hopefully brought some home weather with you.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah. It blew me away yesterday going and seeing people
walking around in shorts and T shirts. What are your nuts?
It's fifty nine.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
It was seventy five here on Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
That's nice to know. And that other female voice you heard, PJ.
Neudleman over on the other side of the state there
in trumpelow.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
Hey, hey, excited for the full race season to get
started here before too long.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
It's coming in a hurry, isn't it. Dan Margetta, who
is right now on his way to American Family Field
for today's Brewer game.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Hi, Hey, how you doing?

Speaker 6 (01:46):
It's a family gathering for Easter at the Brewer game today.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Nothing says the resurrection of Christ like going to a ballgame.
I guess that's beautiful. It's Rockingham weekend, except without a
cup race. Boy, that would have been a perfect thing
to have today. We apparently pay in years past because
of how schedules worked out. I mean, we have raced

(02:11):
on Easter in the past.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
I e.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
If you'll remember the dirt at night at Bristol before
we scraped it clean and had a boring ass race
like last week. But they did have a couple of
races this weekend, starting with the trucks on Friday night.
Tyler Ankram was your winning. He doesn't win very often,

(02:36):
does he.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
It was one hundred and twenty race winles streak. I
believe he had there one hundred and thirty, one hundred
and thirty race winless streak. He had.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Well, good for him. I watched part of it at
a at a bar in Kansas City on my way home,
and then yesterday was the big show. They actually sold
Rockingham completely out for the ARCA Syria in the in
the UH it's the opener, and then Exfinity raced later
in the day and we had ourselves a couple. Well.

(03:10):
The Brent Cruz win in the ARCA series wasn't exactly
what I would say compelling. He kicked everybody's ass. Swalloch
finished second in that one.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Was that televised, Yeah, if you had that to be TV,
it was on the NASCAR channel. Also, Flow was the
one that was streaming the race, so Flow was your
primary provider of that one, okay.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
And then in the afternoon we had the Exfinity race.
It turned out to be some pretty good racing with
a kind of a unfortunate finish that we've learned about
several hours after the end of the race. Brian Love
managed to hang on through those cautions at the end.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah, turned into a fuel mileage thing. At the end,
several cars were running out of fuel and when they
run out of fuel on a restart the cause of rack.
So you had you had kind kind of a Martinsville
type ending of that race, only a lot of it.
It wasn't like purpose purposely done. It was just guys
were slowing down and wrecking. So you had multiple restarts,
six extra laps of racing. And then Sammy Smith and

(04:14):
Jesse Love had enough fuel in their car. Parker Retzlof
had plenty to go, but it was it was going
to be between if there was enough fuel for Sammy
Smith and Jesse Love to make it to the end.
They did, but then Jesse Love had some truck arm
issues on his car that did failed post race tech.
That was several hours I believe after that race was
over that I saw that. So Sammy Smith, the villain

(04:36):
from Martinsville, gets something in.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
And it was quite an interesting thing to be the
queued for. It was had to do with the rear suspension.
There's a U bolt that has to be in complete
contact with the other components there, and they checked the
gap I guessed, and the post race teardown to make
sure that the components were no further apart than point
zero one zero inches from each other, and apparently it

(05:05):
exceeded the tolerances and they were decuted and.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
I believe there was another car, Justin Bonsignor's Gibbs car
was also disqualified for the same thing. So, and I
don't know if it had to do with the way
those cars are running on that track, because if you
saw any of qualifying those guys that they had tire
rubs and they had so much suspension flex because those
cars are going so fast that I'm thinking that is
that had something to do with this disqualification. It might

(05:30):
the g forces these cars had around there. I mean,
this was this is the type of racing you want
to see. This is what NASCAR racing is all about.
Watching those cars rip around Rockingham. They're on just on
the verge of being out of control. I mean, for
the most part, the kids did a pretty good job
driving them. I would love to see the Cup drivers
and those exact cars on that track run a full race.
I think that would be that would be absolutely what

(05:52):
everybody was looking for in a race. If you put
our current Cup cars on that track, I think you're
gonna a snoozele like ahead last week.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah, well before we get into the last week's Brian.
That's it's there's more people saying the same thing that
the racing is so much better out of the Exfinity cars.
But you know, NASCAR does not like to admit they
did something wrong and that they need to go back
and they need to change the future of the sport.

(06:20):
You know, we put a lot of work and effort
and research into this car. This is really what you
want to have, and yet the bottom line is what
kind of show is it going to put on? And
these these cars were pretty damn good, weren't they.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Oh, these these Infinity cars. Yes, and it's very similar
to the Gen six car that we ran before that,
and you had fairly good racing. Now you didn't have
the good racing on the mile and a half's and
I don't believe NASCAR thought they were going to fix
the mile and a half racing with their new car,
but they did so that's great. And but on any
other track, road courses, the shorter tracks, the miles, you know,

(06:55):
the half miles, the racing is awful and these cars
can't pass. And what's it gonna take for them to
come to their senses and say, hey, we need to
put on a good product. You had a great product yesterday.
You had it that showed what you're gonna do. You
went to a track that was repaved not that many
years ago, and you didn't even have the best drivers
in the world out there, and they put on an
incredible show. You sold the place out. What more do

(07:17):
you need?

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, Well, which leads us into last week at Bristol,
Larson just put an ass whooping on them, leading four
hundred and twelve of the five hundred laps. You know,
this is exactly what they don't want, and yet they're
hanging on to it instead of you know, there's all

(07:39):
kinds of fixes that are being put out there changing
the car, Brian, to be honest with you, that that's
gonna be the last thing they're gonna do. I think
they're gonna give them more horsepower before they do that.
And I don't think they're anywhere near giving them more
horsepower yet.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
No, And I don't even know if that's gonna do it.
To be honest with you, I mean, I've seen a
couple of different podcasts from different reporters this week talk
about the exact same thing, and the one thing a
lot of them say is, well, you can't change the
car because it's going to cost the teams too much money. Well,
when you get to a point where your product is
so bad you're going to sacrifice making money to spend
the money to do it. And if you use this

(08:14):
Sexfinity car, I mean, think about the teams in NASCAR.
The vast majority of them have an excidity program going on.
Hendrick does, Gibbs does you know? The only one that
really doesn't is Penske. But I'm sure they would come
up with something to try to get this to use
that car to do it. Now, it's going to change
a lot of things. You're gonna have, you know, different
type of pit stops. But you know what, I think
that's what would make it exciting. And when you go
back in time, these guys used to have different cars

(08:35):
for every track they ran on. I mean used to
go into a shop and they were there were no
less than fifteen cars in there because you had different
cars for all the different tracks. It's nice to have
one car for a track. But when your product is
no good, I think you got to come up with something.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Oh that's the bottom line, and they must. By now,
the conversations around the big table have got to say, well,
that was pretty crappy race. What do we do now?

Speaker 5 (09:00):
I don't know if they do though, because I have
a feeling that they just kind of pat each other
on the back.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
And it's not something that hasn't happened before. Kyle Larsen
did this exact same thing in fall and stunk up
the Fall show there at Bristol. So this is two
races in a row now that have been awful. And
last spring you go back to there you had the
tire wear issue, which was kind of a strange happenstance
because of the temperature and the tires that they created
what it was. But Bristol has not been good in
a while in these cars.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, well at least.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
You know, and then you look at it. Look at Darlington.
Was it two weeks ago you had Byron spell Let
every lap and I race said been in a lake yellow.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Kind of screw that up. But that's two.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
Weeks in a row where you had one guy just
to lead every lap and that doesn't make telling TV
and doesn't make him pelling watching it in person either.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
And a week before that, Martinsville wasn't really all that
great on the cup side. Everybody was talking about the
Xfinity and the truck races before that. The Cup race
is pretty pretty vanilla. So yeah, I don't know, and said,
it's not just us if you go anywhere else that's
not associated with NASCAR, our media side of it, you know,
I go with the athletic guys. They're talking about this
a lot, that this is the problem they have.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Well, if usually we have winners on the show, this week,
we're gonna have the guy who finished second. Clark Kent
is waiting to talk to us. Take his glasses off
and step into a phone booth. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, we call him Clark Kent, but once he's got
those glasses off and slips into that phone booth which
doubles as the number four race car h Parker Retzlofft
suddenly becomes Superman or he's on his way to doing that.
Joining us for the first time is Parker Retzlafft originally
from Ryan Lander, Wisconsin. Parker, that first win can't be

(13:28):
that far away, can it?

Speaker 14 (13:31):
No, it doesn't seem like it's too far away at
this point. I mean, I feel like this year we've
had two chances to go win and just I haven't
fully got it done yet. So yesterday we were very
close if we had a really good car, and just
we crossed the line third and ended up finishing second
after Tex. So that's also only find a guy who

(13:59):
ended up on the race at the end of the
race today after a great, a great.

Speaker 15 (14:07):
A lot more.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Well, we're having a hard time here and with your
cell phone, so I hope this we may have to
re establish a connection. I'm not sure, but just so
we know, we're working on that. So team, is it bad?
You know what this is. I don't think it's gonna work.
I hate to do this on the air, but we

(14:28):
may have to just let you go and call you
right back if you would, if you would just hang on,
or we'll be we'll be right back with you, Parker.
We just want to make sure everybody can hear him,
so we're gonna hang up and Matt is doing that
right now. Sorry about all that. Yeah, the guy had
just an outstanding race yesterday and really put himself in

(14:51):
to a position where he could have won that thing,
and I'll be damned if he didn't come pretty close.
And really, how many people thought he had that great
a chance of going to this Alpha Prime team?

Speaker 4 (15:03):
You know, he was fast all day. I mean he
qualified right up front, qualified second yesterday. I mean that
team is kind of coming around.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
They've been showing a lot of really good speed and
he's been in position a lot of times. I think
sometimes he's maybe not as aggressive as he might need
to be with some of these scoobies that are in
the series. So he kind of gets burned sometimes by that.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
And he's back with us now. I hope our connections
a little bit better, Parker. But that that car that
you're in, tell us a little bit about it. We
didn't know very much about Alpha Prime Racing or the
number four car.

Speaker 14 (15:38):
Yes, So, like I said, that's been a call. We've
been racing a lot, we've been it's kind of been
our workhorse car, just a mile and a half in
the car we're the most confident with. So it's been
just trying to make it better every week and just
keep it clean so we can work on and fair well.
We need to keep ad justin on it to make
it a little bit better. And I think yesterday we

(15:58):
showed a lot of speed. I think we were definitely
top five to top seven no matter what happened in
the race, Like it's like that's where we should have been,
and you know, happy with the top three, but just
hurts a little bit of you know, ultimately end of
the day, we finished second after after teching it.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Really and you guys were good right out of the box.
I mean you had a really good qualifying run. You know,
we were at top of the board for the vast
majority of that qualifying session there got beat out right
at the end. But you know, talk a little bit
about the team. How long has that team been in existence?
Where did it come from? How did you get hooked
up with them after the Jordan Anderson deal fell apart?

Speaker 14 (16:34):
Yes, I mean the team has been going on for
five years or so and just they've just been building
with everything they can and just you know, not having
the most you know, most resources and backing behind it.
So we've been doing everything we can to do whatever
you know, we can to be as good as we can.
So it's been a lot of just hard work for

(16:56):
everyone on the four team and just continue to put
in the long hours to try and work on what
we need to do to get better. And I think that,
you know, a month ago we had being a cute
at at Coda not even made the race just from
being behind. And I think that it just shows that
when we have some time do everything put together, we
can compete.

Speaker 12 (17:15):
At a team.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
How much time do you spend with the crew outside
of the track, because it seems like you guys are
all really starting to gel because you had a heck
of a comeback after some trouble mid race with that
flat tire.

Speaker 14 (17:30):
Yeah. I mean, I think that I hang out with
the guys at the shop a couple of days a week.
It's just you know, trying to build a good relationship
with all of them and make sure they also feel
like it's kind of a family and that they're you know,
we're all in it together. I mean, I don't I
can't do what I do without them, and they need
me to put in my best effort when we get
on the race track. So it's good to see that

(17:51):
they're hard work, you know, finally paid off and they could,
you know, go compete for a wind.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
When did you know you wanted to be a race
car driver?

Speaker 13 (18:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (18:03):
I was.

Speaker 14 (18:04):
I was six seven years old when I started racing
sprint cars, and that's all I wanted to do is
become a race car driver. But I'm also some people
say that I'm way too hard on myself about it,
and I you know, beating myself up a little bit
today about it and not you know, not just getting
the one more spot I needed to give all these

(18:26):
guys and my whole team their first win.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
I think that that's natural, though, to to kind of
be hard on yourself. I think the big thing is
when you do finally break through and get that win,
that you take the time to savor it and not
just keep looking to the next thing.

Speaker 14 (18:43):
Yeah, I mean I think that, you know, I'm very
happy with our second place finish, but I just always
want more. I told bedphone yesterday after qualifying that you know,
I probably should have you know, cut down coming to
start finish on like everybody else, and I would have
probably won the poll, and I gave that one away,
and you know, told all the guys that I was,

(19:04):
you know, sorry for not I guess giving them what
I should have because they should have had their first
poll as a company and they've run on the four.
Keeper should have had their first pole of the year.
So uh, you know, hurts a little bit, but we
just got to keep fighting and we're going to go
get one before the years over.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Real quick, Let's go back to last August your Cup
Series race at Daytona, pushing Harrison Burton to the win.
How awesome was that to be in the Cup Series
and be that close to winning a race.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
And kiss and Chevrolet right off?

Speaker 14 (19:35):
Yeah, I mean I think that it was, you know,
it was. It was good to compete in the Cup
race and be that close and be once again there
I was probably a couple of inches of being clear
in the second and having a chance at at Harrison.
So it created a little bit of drama, but not
as much as everyone everyone thinks. It's not It's not

(19:58):
as bad as everyone thinks. I mean it, it got
over and done with very quickly. So I would love
to do more Cup races and hopefully we can do
that and you know, try and compete at summer. That's
not just stay telling them like International Cup Race.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Well, you're the next star to come out of the
state of Wisconsin, Parker, and it's easy to root for you.
You're not one of those big mouth guys who wants
to make everybody mad at him all the time. You're
a level headed, down to earth young man, and you
got so much talent that I think everybody's around here
is going where the hell did he come from? Well,

(20:37):
he's a Ryan Lander guy, and it's easy to root
for you. We hope to talk to you in the
near future. And good luck getting your first win, Parker.

Speaker 14 (20:46):
Thank you, I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Parker Rhetslov originally from Ryanlander, Wisconsin. We'll take a break
and be right back.

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Speaker 3 (23:11):
Three the guests, welcome back to the program. Thanks for
spending a little of your Eastern morning with us. That
nice kid, isn't he? I mean that I think that
there's some good things on the horizon for Parker Retzlaff, he's, uh,

(23:32):
he makes the car better. I mean, did we ever
hear that car before? We don't really know that much
about it, touly no.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
And they and their other team kind of, you know,
lays back in the weeds and you don't really see
much about them because they got a laundry list of
drivers driving the other Alpha Prime show. We got Brendon
Poole in the other car and he's okay. But then
they have their third car, the forty five car sees
Our Baccarella, Brad Perez, Mason Massey and Vince into Sallas
drive it. So Parker's kind of leading the leading the

(24:03):
fleet there, I think in that team. So hey, there's
a restrictor played race upon on the horizon, so maybe
they can win one of them. That would be kind
of nice.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
It seems like we've had a pretty good dose of
losses lately, some unexpected deaths. We had one yesterday that
you know, I have to kind of think about this
as we're talking, because a guy by the name of
Mike Chase, he was a California or Oregon guy that

(24:35):
he's actually in the West Coast stock our Hall of fame,
but his last years he was a fabricator at Penske,
including right up to the time of his death. The
day after his seventy third birthday this week, he passed
away of cancer. And I remember Ed Kluka was friends
with Mike Chase, and I had to think I would

(24:55):
have Ed would have probably loved this that we could
have talked about Mike. But so I did some asking
of some old timers because young guys wouldn't remember this.
And I say old timers because some of these old
timers are younger than myself. But Mike Chase used to
race out of Wisconsin. And I asked a couple different people,

(25:19):
and Bickel is the one that said that he came
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And PJ talked to Toby and we figured out that
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I don't know where he was based out of. I

(25:39):
don't know much about him. But Toby's story was that
a couple of drivers had to kind of corner him
a little bit right.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
Well, he was just he was driving a little rough
and kind of reckon people and things and according to Toe,
folks like Rich Bickle, Dick Trickle, Tom Refner and such.
They all kind of came up to as it was
in the old days, put their arm around him and said, look,
we don't drive that way around here, because we have
another four or five races to get to this week.

(26:09):
We don't want to wreck our crap, so don't drive
that way and everybody will get along just fine. And
that was all it really took, was just a little
coming to Jesus meeting with kind of the leaders, if
you will, at that time. And lo and behold, he
cleaned up his acne actually ran pretty good.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
And that's where I assume where ed met him. Now,
that was before we actually started this program, and I
didn't realize that it was that long ago that he
raced out of Wisconsin. Anyway, it was just for a year.
He went down south then and made a place in NASCAR.
He's a let's see, he was a two time champion

(26:48):
the Winston West Series and the Southwest Tour Champion. And
you know, everybody seemed to like Mike Chase. He was
very well respected guy. Greg emmer knew him and worked
with him at the Wood Brothers for a while and
talked about yesterday in a post, how wonderful a guy

(27:09):
he was to work with and just a guy that
raced out of Wisconsin. And I thought it took We
should mention it special because he did learn a little
bit about respect in racing when he was up here.
And if you're going to come out of Wisconsin with
one thing, I think you get taken a side by

(27:29):
that group. You're you're you're doing all right. And Mike
Chase made a career out of racing, and we'll be
missed on many levels. Hey, an interesting thing happened last week.
Tony Stewart won in his top fuel dragster at Las Vegas.

(27:49):
He did a three point eight seven second What is it?
It's not a quarter mile? Is it's one thousand feet? Right?

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Correct?

Speaker 3 (27:57):
I got to learn more about this. What I'm learning
is because of Tony Stewart. He went three hundred and
seventeen point four to two miles per hour and one
thousand feet and one top Fuel division at Las Vegas.
His first win. Boy has he won some prolific races
in NASCAR, in Indy Car, now in NHRA. He's got

(28:21):
some sprint car championships. I'm sure, Brian, right.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah, you sack. He won the triple Crown and you
Sack went in midget Silver Crown and sprint car championships.
That was the four Wide Nationals too. They do three
of them a year. I believe they'll be doing it
next week in Charlotte where they run four at a time.
So this was a four top field dragsters hauling down
the thousand foot mark, and he won that race.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Who cars coming down? Your heart wants to jump out
of your chest. Four cars? I can't imagine what that's like.
It's pretty crazy there.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Think for this puts him now.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
As far as you look at all the you know,
the great drivers you think of like Andretti and fort
that have won in all different forms of race, none
of those guys had drag racing wins, so I think
they kind of sets them a little bit apart from
those guys.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, the only guys that have won anything in drag
racing John Andretti and Kurk Bush raced. I don't know
if he won anything. I know Andretti did, and I
know that there are those of you who know that.
Richard Petty after a year in nineteen sixty four, where

(29:25):
he absolutely dominated with the four to twenty six hemis
in NASCAR. NASCAR outlawed the engine and Richard said, okay, fine,
then I'm going drag racing. And let's see. He didn't
do that great. He did win in the b altered division.

(29:48):
He ran a ten point six y two at one
hundred and thirty one miles an hour in his win
in NHRRA. But in one event he broke a front
suspension piece and Carr went into the crowd and he
killed an eight year old kid and it affected him
pretty badly after that and kind of didn't have his

(30:10):
heart in the drag racing thing anymore. In the meantime,
NASCAR attendants took a big dump after Richard Petty left,
and so they went ahead and they legalized the four
to twenty six hemmy again, and he came back, and
then in sixty seven he won twenty seven times, including

(30:33):
ten in a row. And of course you have to
remember those were the days when NASCAR was racing twice
a week on dirt tracks and one hundred lappers and
all that. They were still NASCAR wins. They're all on
Richard Petty's resume. That's how he got to two hundred. Obviously,
nobody would get anywhere near that in today's schedule of

(30:53):
only thirty six races a year, But that takes nothing
away from the fact that Richard Petty was the dominant
force in those years.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
Think about how Tony Stewart got into drag racing. He was, Yeah,
met up with Lea Pruett because a friend said, you
got to meet this girl. He goes to meet her,
COVID hits, they get stuck together for like two months. Yeah,
now they're married and they have a Kid's movies are
made out.

Speaker 5 (31:17):
Of right and maybe the movie is yet to come.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Brian. Yes, she lived in Lake Havasu City, Arizona, and
so that's where Tony spent the COVID days, you know,
not getting COVID and hooked up with her. And the
next thing, you know, Old Med's a millionaire, Tony's married,
his wife is a star, and when she tries to

(31:40):
get pregnant, they have to kind of put things a
little backwards. How would you take Tony Stewart out of
the seat now if he's a winner? On top of it,
she took another year off to raise the little guy,
and Tony's starting to win. This is amazing.

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Well, I heard that music, Welcome back to the program.
A little tiny tidbit. I heard this week that the
NASCAR Drive for diversity. You remember that I was open
to trying to promote all races into the sport, and
a noble gesture at the very least, it was renamed

(35:07):
the Driver Development Program because, let's face facts, if any
applicant is ineligible for a program because of their race,
it is racist. It's equality, not equity, and NASCAR just
changed it. And that's the end of that, and it's
now a driver development.

Speaker 17 (35:26):
Now.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
I don't know how that's going to change who they
choose for the program, but you know, these days, we're
very worried about how we name things, so on we'll
peep that out there. Hey, you guys might be able
to answer a simple question for me. If Rockingham is
so damn close to the center of racing down there

(35:48):
in Charlotte, why wouldn't c W actually send announcers to
the race track to cover the race rather than keep
them in a studio in Charlotte anyone.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
That's a good question. And I'm not sure why that is.
I mean, I believe it's eighty miles from Charlotte to Rockingham,
And yeah, it was strange to see that. And I know,
I know, I've heard in the past when NASCAR runs
this series without the Cup series there, that they kind
of kind of give you the second string of everything.

(36:23):
So I don't know if the TV is following along
those same lines like they just I mean, the only
people that were actually at the track were the pit
reporters and the camera people. You know, everybody else was
in the studio and a lot of people caught that
on Friday night when Michael Waltrip put out a tweet
or on x now of him standing in front of
the screen saying we're back at Rockingham, and everybody blasted
him saying, no, you're not, You're in a studio in Charlotte.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Hey, this was a Bob Sergeant show at Rockingham, right, correct?

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Yeah, this was a Track Enterprises event. And from what
I read, it sounds like NASCAR reached out to Track
Enterprises to organize this event. And you know, it's kind
of a it's kind of a bummer because, you know,
think about now, and I don't know how the schedule
would have worked out, because I mean, this was I
think Bob's vision for what you wanted to do at
Milwaukee as well is to eventually get the Xfinity Series there. Now,

(37:12):
this is the only off weekend that the Cup Series
has the entire season, so this is the only weekend
that you could have put this event on without the
Cup Series. So I don't know how that would have
looked in the future, but this was one of his
visions for Milwaukee. Now, I know, you know last year
when we were talking about the fair people, they have
that vision as well in the future. So we'll see
if it could be done in Rockyham maybe it can

(37:33):
be done in Milwaukee in the future as well.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Sergeant is a pretty prolific guy, isn't he.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Yeah, and he's got his fingers on everything, I mean,
from dirt racing to ARCA racing, to a lot of
USAC events to now everything but the Cup Series in NASCAR.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah, and you touched on it briefly before. But you know,
I guess I should have known this, Brian. But the
NASCAR Channel is a thing. But you can only get
the NASCAR Channel from TB which is a downloaded app.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Correct, Yes, and it's free. It's free. You can download
it on your smart TV and it's got all different
programming on it as well. But it has the channel
called the NASCAR Channel. That's where you're able to watch
yesterday's ARCA race. And they're going to do some more
events as the season goes on. Every every week now,
starting Monday through Friday, they're going to have the Serious

(38:25):
XM's program in the morning Drive, which has Mike Bagley
on it and Pete Pistoni. They're gonna be on live
at six to nine hour time. I believe it's a
TV show.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah, Now they're going to turn it into a TV
show and have it on that to B every morning.
So it has been on the NASCAR channel to.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
We have a caller, Todd Oh okay, Oh, Greg over
in far away Milwaukee.

Speaker 18 (38:47):
Hi, Greg, Hey, good morning guys. I want to just
take off on something that you said earlier. I'm gonna
bring up a couple of names here, eunuch, uh, dodge
the fast back forwards and so forth. But my question is, Ah,

(39:10):
rather than worrying about cheating or you're within a certain
millimeter of being disqualified, why why don't Why does a
NASCAR allow innovations rather than cheating? In other words, Uh,
you know, there's so much that could be done In baseball,

(39:31):
they came up with this torpedo bat, which is an
innovation which is legal. Now, why can't NASCAR allow more
flexibility as far as what the teams can do to
to move ahead with the same car that they have?

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Uh, you know, some innovations not cheating as such. They
would see that as not having a level playing field
and everything they work towards is not listening to one
team come and cry that somebody else has something that
they don't have, and by that time, you'd think they
would all have it. Greg great point. I don't ever

(40:12):
think next car's go in that direction again. But that
is what put NASCAR in the map back in the day,
with especially with Smokey Eunuch.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
And life and it's costs these days, I mean it's
different than what it was back in the day, with
the engineering and the computer models and all that stuff
you have now. I mean, look at Formula one, the
costs are through the roof. Look at Dirt Late Model
Racing and the time I did Dirt Late Model Racing.
I started working on those cars in two thousand and
one until we finished up in twenty one. The costs
went through the roof because of the engineering and the
amount of technology that went into it. And I think

(40:42):
costs is the main reason. If you let it just
go crazy, you're gonna have these teams are going to have,
you know, thousands of employees like Formula one has, and
your costs are going to go through the roof. And
I think that's why they're doing it, because otherwise you're
only gonna have You're gonna go down to Formula one
where you have twenty teams, and that's going to be it.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Greig, thanks for the call. We're going to take a
break and be right back.

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Speaker 4 (43:43):
A busy Easter weekend of dirt track racing across the country.
We'll start last Sunday night in Terre Haute, Indiana. E
Sac Silver Crown Series kicked off their twenty twenty five
campaign with a race on the Big half Mile and
Logan Sevie picked up the season opening feature win Thursday
night in Tipton, Iowa. This City Cedar County Raceway for
the Mars Dirt Car Series. Brandon Shephard picked up the

(44:05):
win there. Friday night, Farmer City, Illinois, the UNP Late
Models Mike Spatola as her future winner, and the unp
modifiedes went to Trevor Neville West Burlington, Iowa. The thirty
four Raceway, another event for the Mars Dirt Car Series.
Bobby Pierce picked up the prelude to the Slocum fifty
Race parry On, Indiana. The Northern All Star Late Model Series.
Jason Jamison with a late race pass of Hudson O'Neil

(44:29):
to pick up the win there. Sweetwater, Tennessee the I
seventy five Raceway for the shaff Oil Spring Nationals Super
Late Model Feature winner there was Ricky Weiss. Attica, Ohio.
The four ten sprint cars There, Devin Borden was declared
the winner after local guy Scottie Thiel made a run
out there picked up the win, but then was dequed
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(44:51):
improper wicker bill on those sprint cars, but that's what
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as the IRA kicks off their season Saturday night at Beaverdham.
The unplight models also ran at Attica. Rusty Schlank was
your winner there Friday night Mechanicsville, Pennsylvania, Williams Grove Speedway.
Anthony Macree picked up the four ten sprint car feature
when they were Friday night last night Francis Creek, the

(45:13):
one forty one Speedway and the IMA Modifieds. Benji Lacrosse
was your winner and the IMCA Stock Cars was Trenton Bell.
Listen to this number. Two hundred and five cars in
five divisions were at one forty one last night. They
started at six and the checkered flag flew at twenty
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(45:33):
Forty races in less than four just to tick over
four hours. That's impressive.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
Everybody must have wanted to get their Easter baskets.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
And there were, yeah, they were. There was on flow us.
I watched a little bit of it. There were some
incidents as well, so it wasn't a clean totally clean night.
New Richmond, Wisconsin last night, Ceedier Lake speed Away in
the late models, James Yasse was your winner, the Modified
was Caden Blauser and usri A Limited Lights went to
Corey Koski West Burlington, Iowa, A thirty four raceway for
the Slocum fifty for them Mar Dirt Car Series ten thousand,

(46:01):
five hundred and fifty ten thousand, fifty five dollars to win.
Bobby Pierce made it a clean sweep there taswell Tennessee
the Spring Nationals twenty one thousand dollars to win. Tyler
Herb was your winner. On the pavement. In Toledo, Ohio,
the U Sex Silver Crown Series had their second race
of the season. Justin Grant was your winner there. And
finally Knoxville, Iowa, the World of out Law and Noss
Engineering Sprint Car Series. They're supposed to race two nights there.

(46:22):
They had too much rain on Friday, so that one
was canceled, so they ran the Future last night and
Rico Abrew and Kyle Larson put on a show at Knoxville.
They had sixty three sprint cars show up for that
one off event, and Rico topped Kyle at the end, right,
I mean he only won by what a car length
of the end. Incredible race, So Rico's got one on
Kyle to start the season. That is everything this for

(46:44):
this week.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
Onto the asphalt side of things. Not a whole lot
going on. We already touched on the ARCA East running
at Rockingham yesterday. Brent Cruz was your winner in that
one hundred and twenty five lapper. Williams Swaltch was P. Two.
The Jagg Cira All Star Tour was supposed to run
today a hundred lapper at Toledo, but they decided to

(47:05):
run it yesterday instead due to.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
All of the rain.

Speaker 5 (47:09):
The winner was Kyle Crump and Jeremy Miller made the
truck down there and he finished fifth. And that's all
we got for asphalt.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
That's that time of year. Though places are firing up.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
There was if you happened to be on flow last night.
Bowman Gray opened up last night. Oh my god, Yes,
something was They called the Jewelers two hundred or whatever,
and I think it was Brandon Ward punted one of
the Myers boys, I think, to get the win, and
Bert wasn't even mad about it. I'm like, wow, you
could tell they're used to it there.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (47:42):
But in the other division they had guys fighting on
that straight away again, Oh they did.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
I didn't see the cops involved.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
Always always the cops are like on call.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
But usually when cops are involved, you end this thing.
The cops were as silver tea kettle in the middle
of this thing. I couldn't believe what I was watching.
I guess that's why they fill the stands at that
little place, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
I mean the Hayes Jewelers two hundred. When when Bert
got punted, it's like somebody scored a touchdown because the
whole stadium just rolls up and was cheering. When this
ward guy punted him coming out of turn number four,
It's like, Wow, they live for that stuff.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
I guess. Hey, we got just a little tiny bit
of news regarding Slinger Speedway too. It looks as though
Slinger is going to be on a different channel this year. Dan,
it doesn't include the opener.

Speaker 6 (48:38):
Yeah, looks at it right now in the match. If
they have a streaming thing for the opener, we may
have something in place by next week.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
We've got to work on that.

Speaker 6 (48:44):
But yeah, there'll be a change there. I'll be coming
up and we'll see what happens for next week. But
right now, I don't know if there's a streaming service
to cover the opener. So you got to get to
the right track.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
And do you want to announce the new streaming service?

Speaker 6 (48:58):
Well, I like the track can announce it when they
have everything official. I have an idea who it's going
to be.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Oh okay, I thought it was. I thought it was
a done deal. I'm sorry about that. Oh well, watch
for an announcement from Slinger where it's going to be
streamed this year and uh, this just in. It's going
to be different than it was last year. So keep
that in mind. We're glad you're tuned in. We're going
to come back with some TV stuff when we return.

(49:23):
Hang in there.

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Network about what.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
The fans can expect.

Speaker 13 (52:15):
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Speaker 2 (52:28):
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Speaker 3 (52:31):
You don't forget. The LTN podcast is available at iHeart,
iTunes and all major platforms. And don't forget PJ and
some guy named Dan Plant has an outstanding program called
Racing Nuggets. You should be able to get it at

(52:53):
all those same platforms, correct, Yes.

Speaker 5 (52:56):
You should. You can even watch it on YouTube. I
don't do it as regular as I used to because
life gets in the way. But we did have John
Close on and shared that this last week. He is amazing.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
Yeah, yeah, good stuff. So yeah, you can listen to
that on on YouTube or anywhere you get your podcast.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
A writer. I met him when he was still the
sports editor for the Jefferson County Daily Union, if I
remember that correctly. And then he came over and did
I think about two weeks at Slinger Speedway and he
started telling Wayne Erickson he was doing things wrong and
that didn't last long. And then but went down to NASCAR,

(53:40):
became a PR guy for several major teams, and he
and Rich Bickle have been best friends forever. And he
was there back in the day when Matt Kensett just
got started. He's had a lot of things he's written
books about.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
Well, and he also shared in the podcast and you
can listen to the whole thing. But he was obviously
doing PR for Benny Parsons at one point and Benny
was teammates with Neil Bonnett. There was like a sponsorship
thing there and that was the PR guy for Neil
Bonnett could not be there, so they asked John to

(54:15):
take over for that, and that was the day that
Neil Bonnett died at Daytona.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
That didn't start, Oh, well.

Speaker 6 (54:22):
Yeah, I think didn't.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
Didn't.

Speaker 6 (54:23):
He live with Dounny for a while when he went
for Yeah.

Speaker 5 (54:25):
He talks about that as well too in the podcast,
So it's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Hey, TV ratings. I have to say we're happy because
ratings are trending upward, and that's you know, for a
while there they were bad, but they're coming back. You know.
We can talk about how bad the cars are all
we want, but the ratings are coming back and that's
a big deal. Last week, now I'm rounding these numbers up,

(54:50):
all right. We have to remember that all sports included
would include the Masters last week, and they beat the
living daylights out of everything else combined. There were thirteen
million people watching the Masters. Okay, keeping that in mind
and knowing that you're competing against the Masters. The Cup

(55:11):
Series on FS one had roughly two million viewers. ESPN
two had Formula One they had one point three million,
and then it goes kind of down from there. Exfinity
on CW was one million. Then Fox, okay, the big network,
not FS one. They had five hundred and fifty two

(55:31):
thousand people watching the IndyCar Race head to head with
their own network FS one on cable only that had
roughly four times more viewers. Imagine that the Trucks and
IndyCar had roughly the same amount of viewers fifty thousand
different and then down from there. NHRA, where you saw

(55:52):
Tony Stewart win and IMSA had eighty one thousand people,
and I was on USA. It's hard to take all
that into account when you figured that the Masters had
so many people watching last week.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
So we said, I don't understand what Fox is doing
with their IndyCar thing. You know, it seems to be
doing a disservice to them. Right now. You have a race,
two races last week that are in like opposite ends
of the country, ones in the Eastern time zone, ones
in the Pacific times only you ran them basically head
to head with each other. I don't understand it.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
And the same ownership of the network, Fox owns Fox
Sports One.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
If I was IndyCar, I'd be getting on the horn
with them saying, come on now, you got to help
us out a little here.

Speaker 18 (56:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (56:33):
Yeah, you remember some of the Road America races had
star times later in a year just to avoid that,
I mean.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Correct, Yeah, So, I mean NBC kind of went out
of their way to make sure they were not overlapping
each other. And now you got them on the same
network and they are and it just doesn't make any
sense to me. So hopefully Fox comes around here during
five hundred week and does a little or a five
hundred month does a little better job of promoting that series,
because they're really doing them a disservice right now.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Yeah, and even on a race where one guy leads
four hundred and twelve of five hundred laps and they
still had outstanding numbers last week, we can kind of
complain about these cars. I guess the next concern would be,
is this car going to end up costing viewers? Then

(57:19):
they'll have a good race because nobody will really notice
that they raced on a mile and a half or
and then they go to a half mile and then
they go, wow, how come we only had one leader
all day long. That's a kind of a it's a
fine line, Brian. I gotta say, I'd hate to be
making those decisions.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
Yeah, that'll be good next week because you're at Talladega.
Talladad always draws a lot of viewers, So next week
you'll see big ratings again, especially if you're not going
head ahead with any other major events, which you're not
for Well, you got the draft, but that's that's earlier
in the week. So by the time the weekend rules
around the draft is over, so I think I think
Talladaiga is going to probably have huge ratings next week.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Yeah, it's a right Green Bay gets the draft. Did
they figure out where they're going to get all these
hotel rooms?

Speaker 4 (57:58):
Other people staying in the walk gave heard we're full here.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
Well, good for us, I guess that's really what we wanted. Hey,
no race this week obviously because Easter Sunday, and as
Brian said, Talladega next week. It has good ratings. I'm
gonna say for two reasons. One because you usually have
a surprise winner, and two because people who are fringe

(58:23):
viewers like the way. Hey let's watch Talladega. They smash
him up pretty good on that show. Yeah, well, there
are those of us who don't particularly like those wrecks.
We would like to see him race all the way
to the end. I would like to have my favorite
driver be in it instead of being out on a lap.
You know, one hundred and fifty wreck that took them

(58:44):
all off. Unbelievable, isn't it. Well, thanks for tuning in,
thanks to Parker Reslav the first time on LTN. He
can put his Clark Kent glasses back on and get
ready for his next race. For all of us involved
with the program, we consider it an honor that should
tune in every week, and we also like you to
remember that real race cars have doors, even if they

(59:07):
do climbing through the windows. Let's Talk Nascar is produced
and directed by our guy in the car in the
parking lot right now, Dan Margetta. Our engineer is Matt Locian.
For all of us, Happy Easter, see you next week.

Speaker 5 (59:20):
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