LTN RADIO NETWORK - September 14,2025

LTN RADIO NETWORK - September 14,2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
The lt AT Hour. Let's talk Nascar with your host
Todd Bayling, co hosts Brian Schmidt, PJ Newdleman, head producer
Dangerous Dan Margetta. Call the show anytime at four one
four four two one seventy nine oh one, And now
the creator and host of the Fastest Hour and Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Todd Bailing.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Good morning, everybody, Welcome to the program. Glad you could
join us. The first round is over. We have our eliminations.
Let's call this the Joe Gibbs Round. Okay, they swept
the three races.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Hi.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
They're Todd Bailing in beautiful Linden Station, Wisconsin, joined by
my three partners, beginning with Brian Schmidt in ootzb Usay,
Hey man, good morning.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Yeah that was weird. That was that Bristol race. I
mean when you look at the clock and it's eleven
o'clock and the race is just ending, you're like, goodness,
this is like old school Bristol. But it really wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
It certainly had some differences did in the PJ Newdleman
over in Trempelo, Wisconsin on the left coast.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
I am a little tired this morning, much like the
tires at Bristol.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Good one.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
And Dan Margetta, who is from South Milwaukee but is
not located there right then.

Speaker 6 (01:34):
No, I'm like too far from you. I'm actually Adell's.
I ran the camera last night for the Big eight
show at Dell's Resae Park. Will be going right after
the show for Today's Life for five super Late Model race.
I got off from the race and I got to
watch last hundred laughs at Bristol. That was kind of cool.
I thought it was a pretty good race, even though yeah,
the tirewere thing is kind of manufactured.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well what yeah, that's That's certainly is going to be
the topic of every talk show in the world about
racing this week because I guess it was a prize
right that they show up with a tire that they
hadn't tested. But Brian, it sounds as though they may
have run this same tire in the past.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
I don't know exactly if it was the same one,
but it had a lot of similarities to the Spring
race of twenty four if you remember how how that
went down, And it was like right away as soon
as the race got going and we got about less
than fifty laps in and you could see guys changing tire,
and from the camera up on the stands, you could
see the whole right side of the tire was down
to the cords. You knew, bo, we're gonna have a

(02:30):
problem here. And could your actually had to go out
and mount a whole other set for the teams to
be able to make it through the rest of the race.

Speaker 6 (02:37):
How come in practice that they could run? Yeah at all?

Speaker 4 (02:41):
I don't know, And that's that's the part that I've
been trying to find reasons for that, and you really
really can't see it. A lot of it has to
do with temperature, a lot of it has to do
with the practice during the daytime. If that made a
difference with how the track was versus the night, I
was really strange. The one thing it didn't do was
turned it into a Bristol race that we saw the
two pros the spring one and last fall, where you

(03:01):
had one car dominate the whole thing. You did not
have that last night. And I didn't intently watch the race,
but it was on the TV the entire night, and
every time I'd walked through, somebody different was upfront, and
You're like, what's what's going on? Here you see cars
running two seconds to three seconds slower than the rest
of the field because they're trying to make their tires last.
It was. It made for an interesting race. I don't
think it's you know, under.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
Had something to do with that PJ one I put down,
because then they put a couple of layers down and well.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
They put it down on the bottom and that's where
the left side tires were in, the right side tires
were up in the old concrete and it was just
peeling it off. It was almost like when you take,
you know, a block of cheese and you run it
over your grater. It was just loose stuff laying up
on the top and you never developed the second groove,
which is I guess even the more weird part because
the other three races we had the weekend there, the
Ark of the Truck and the Xtinity race, you didn't
have that problem. They were running up on the top,

(03:48):
running side by side. So it's really weird and interested
to see what Goodyear is going to come out with
when this is all done and explain what they really
did here, because I don't really know, I.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
Don't want to, and I don't claim to know anything
about tire manu factoring. But I do know on the
short track side of things, they've had some issues with
tires that didn't have enough time to cure before they
use them. I don't know if that would have played
a factor too, and just their ill handling ability.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
But was it something they didn't want. It seems to
me that they wanted it, if you don't believe me.
First of all, I thought it was very unusual that
their tires were so soft and there was so much
crap on the track that it accumulated and we had

(04:36):
fires in the right front of these cars, which you
know NASCAR always says safety first. Well, no, it seems
like showtime came before safety, or we wouldn't have had
fires in the cars last night right down to I believe,
didn't Cindric have some smoke inhalation or burnt arm or

(04:57):
something from just the fact that these tires were so soft,
and which I guess makes for a very interesting race.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Just on the right side too, And that's what happened
to Josh Berry. His car was on fire. He was
trying to make a couple laps to get it to
go out, and it finally got so bad there was
so much smoke in his car. He came down Pitt Road.
His spoder kind of just told himhere to stop and
get out, and it was under green. He couldn't even
get it in the box all the way crawled out
of the car. They finally threw a caution because they
had to get the safety crew out there to finish
putting the fire out. So I don't Yeah, that was

(05:28):
not an intention. I don't think they expected that amount
of rubber to just build up on the car and
then with the brakes so hot there, that's what ignited it.

Speaker 7 (05:35):
How could they not think of that though, no.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Kidding yet or on.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
We have, mean some of the brilliant minds in the
world of racing, and they couldn't have, you know, predicted
that we're going to have fires.

Speaker 7 (05:48):
Especially since it was an issue once before.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
I mean, when they were changing tires, it looked like
it it looked like the dirt race they had their
years ago. As you're taking the tire off, the pieces
of rubber are just falling off like the mud would
when you're when you're changing a tire on a car.
It's really strange.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, But what it did do is provide you know,
lots of different leaders in the little less than four
hour race, and they only averaged sixty nine miles an hour.
You know why that is because there were fourteen cautions
for one hundred and thirty seven laps, which was over
twenty seven percent of the race was run under caution. Now,

(06:24):
even though that sounds bad because we had all these
tires failing, we had a rotation of people that led
laps in that race. By the way, eventual winner c
Bell was not one of them that led a lot
of laps. What was he like, twelve or fourteen total
laps in the whole race. Surprise, he's your winner. But

(06:46):
look at we had Gibbs, who I'm sure people were
thinking this could be it. He's finally going to live
up to all that hype. Or Carson Holsavar. Oh, look,
Khosovar is going to finally win one. Well, he certainly was.
He ran up front his share more than his share,
as did Gibbs. But of course the same thing that

(07:07):
put people up front, and what the Lord giveth and
the Lord taketh away? And yeah, oh yeah, you just hey,
it's Sunday morning.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
What can I say for.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
All these people that didn't go to church and you
wanted to hear that I'm here for you. By the way,
one of the coolest things that could have happened during
the week, they say Hendrick, Well it wasn't really Hendri
Hendrick Motorsports. Chad Canals, who runs the competition end of
Hendrick Motorsports, made a decision that since Alex Bowman was

(07:42):
in the playoffs and that our buddy host of our
was not in the playoffs, that host of our team
is least the pit crew is leased from Hendrick, and
he made the determination. Chad Canals did that the seventy
seven pit crew was better than the forty eight pit crew,

(08:03):
so he swapped it because it was so important that
Alex Bowman was going to make the next round and
let's give him the best possible pit crew. So you've
got four five guys that are looking at each other
going who we deserved to be demoted for this?

Speaker 6 (08:22):
Really?

Speaker 3 (08:23):
So wouldn't you think they would all look at each
other and saying, there's only one goal we have tonight,
and that's to beat the forty eight car, and I'll
be damned if they didn't do it. The seventy seven
car was seventh and Alex Bowman was eighth and got eliminated.

(08:46):
And you know, they couldn't do a high five in
front of anybody. That wouldn't have been appropriate, and now
would it. But the fact that they got replaced and
then they outperformed, don't you just love stuff like that?

Speaker 4 (09:00):
And that seventy seven car had a legitimate chance to
win that race. Oh, he was one of the better
cars all night long. And we don't get that late caution.
I don't know if he would have been able to
hang on and win it, but he certainly would have
had a chance. He would have been right there.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Absolutely, it was fun to watch, that's for sure. Oh,
we're very glad you tuned in. And if you have
a thought on last night's race at Bristol, and we're
going to go over gateway in a little bit. There
have been two races since we've spoken last you can
call us at four to one, four, four to two,
one seventy nine oh one, and we'd love to hear

(09:32):
from you. And in the meantime, let's start figuring out
what we're going to say about all the wonderful things
we're going to say about Denny Hamlin winning at Gateway.

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Speaker 3 (11:39):
The Joe Gibbs Playoffs sweep kind of an amazing accomplishment
when you think about it. The Toyota's Denny Hamlin wins
last week was his fifth win of the year. I
thought that his post race comments were pretty interesting because
he's forty five years old, okay, and you know, you

(12:01):
think to yourself, how long is this guy going to race?
And his contract is for two more years, and he
sure made it sound as though that's going to be it. Now,
that's not a big surprise, I suppose when you think
that he'd be forty seven and needed a new contract.
But what I loved what he said, I don't want
to retire leaking oil, running in the back of the field.

(12:25):
I want to win my last race. That's pretty cool
because there are some people that wouldn't want to leave
when you can win every week, and then you think
you can win once you can win every week, you know.
But the fact of the matter is he's laid it
down that he knows when he's going.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Now.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
That said, he kept the reporters kept asking, and they said,
could you see a scenario where like, if you want
a championship, that would be it? And he said, yeah,
I could see that too well, and maybe that two
year thing just wouldn't happen. And if he actually won
the championship this year, and then he left the door open,
it seems to me to get out of the car.

(13:04):
So but in the meantime, he's got court things to
worry about, because that's what his next chapter of his
life is going to look like. Oh, by the way, Dan,
there were some some maneuverings this week in the legal
end of things.

Speaker 12 (13:21):
Right.

Speaker 6 (13:21):
It's a filing I think late Friday night, and it
included uh internal presentation from NASCAR which is like a
contingency plan from back in twenty twenty four and they
call it what Project gold Codes. It was kind of
apparently the negotiats were negotiations are going so bad back
then that there was actually a thread of the team's
boycotting an event, like not showing up one week, and
then they took it seriously enough to make this contingency plans.

(13:44):
What will we do if that happened? Well, they were
talking about, you know, maybe the qualifying races for CRIVE,
But you know what if they did that, then when
the plan was to take expirity cars or ARCA cars
and fill the field out that way, kind of like
they did back in the day had Talladega when all
the drivers decided to set out. But the interesting thing
about the whole deal, that whole thing was there was

(14:05):
an eighteen month plan to take over everything if they
had to, you know, like like all the teams and everything,
you know, and then they had cost lay it out
and everything, and for thirty six cars doesn't cost like
six hundred million dollars a year. And it's like, well, okay, well,
if you're gonna spend six hundred million dollars a year,
how much money you got you know that you're going
to do that?

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Why they don't want to open the books, right, Apparently
they've lost more than Michael Jordan and the.

Speaker 6 (14:31):
I mean I get one of the teams that kind
of thought that, oh boy, you know, there's this out there.
I think this all kind of started in like twenty
twenty one when that new car came out. When it
because a lot of people we talked to that had
been there for years and decided to get out to
get out of it. Also the same thing, it's not
the same anymore that they tell us what cars we
have to run, we have to buy all the cars,
when we buy all the parts, and we can't do
anything on our own. And it's kind of I think

(14:52):
where the whole monopoly, you know, things started, as far
as people think in that way. And then they were
telling the teams back then, Remember you were making you
want to cut costs, cut people. You know, we're gonna
make it easier for you running this car. It's going
to cost less and you don't need as many people
and that. And then the same time, by doing that,
it kind of built NASCAR with more control over everything.
And I think that's kind of where that came about.

(15:13):
It's just interesting that that contingency plan was out there,
and every every sports league has a contingency plan. I mean,
Baseball did it when the guys went on strect. It
brought and we brought in a replacement players. Football did
it back in the early eighties two we went to strike.
So it's out there. That never became to fruition. It's
just the fact that it was going so bad that
it got to that point means where we are now

(15:34):
in court, it's not it's not good.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
I mean, no, it's not good, but we're headed that direction,
which I still cannot believe that they're not going to
come up with some kind of a settlement out of court.
Before that court, they they're going to just have to
have their fingers held to the flame until somebody screams
and okay, what do you want, We'll give it to you.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Just don't make us open a box.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
I mean, what happens on the end though? When they
say say the teams win, what happens there?

Speaker 9 (16:04):
Now?

Speaker 6 (16:05):
Do you you know? Where do you have another series?
Isn't it? We still have a NASCAR? They're gonna do
something on their own, you know what? What the drivers?
We need to remember that it's about the drivers. They
have the best drivers in the world over there, and
that's why people come. It's not because they want to
see these cars or one lug tire changes. I'm sorry,

(16:25):
that's not what brings people. I think it is the driver.
You can see that even on your short tracks, you know.
I mean, if there's not a NASCAR guy coming, people
don't show up, you know. I mean, so I see
that part.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
So what do you do?

Speaker 6 (16:37):
I mean, is there's something out there that that that
could take the place of what NASCAR is now? Is
the cars Tour that big enough? I mean, it's probably
the closest thing, right, I mean, it's it's maybe one
big TV deal away from maybe really making a threat
to them.

Speaker 9 (16:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Do you see something like that happens? Dan that where
do they race. You know self, Boston isn't going to
cut it.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
You know, I think the biggest thing is going to
be the money in order to keep these big corporations,
which is what these teams are. Those are corporations Hendrick Motorsports,
Gives Motorsports, RFK, Panske. Keep these corporations going. Is a
series that is able to supplement the money to these teams.
I mean, if you look at the purses, most of
these persons are are approaching ten million dollars per cup race.

(17:19):
You don't have that in any other series, nothing even close.
I mean the Infinity Series, you're looking at about a
million a race, right, you know you spread that out
amongst all the teams that ain't gonna cut it, that
ain't gonna keep these corporations going. And I think that's
that's why a lot of these teams sign that agreement
back then, because there was no alternative. There's no other
place to go. You know, ARCA don't have any money.
There's those those teams are running for less than ten

(17:40):
grand to win a race, you know. So that's where
NASCAR it still holds the keys to the car. Is
they're able to because of the TV contract and because
of all the other sponsorships and things they have going
for them, are able to supplement these teams to keep
the doors open. That all goes away these teams are gone.
I mean, I don't a Hendrick Motorsports can't take their
cars and go run in any other series right now

(18:01):
and be able to keep employing all their people right now.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
They have an eighteen month contingency plan to take everything
on NASCAR side. Is there an eighteen months continuency plan
on the team side that says in eighteen months we
can go and convince these sponsors. I mean, Dale Junior
and Michael Jordan are pretty influence. Yes, Oh, I might
be able to do that.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
Yeah, It's just hard to see because anytime you see
and we've seen it in all the other sports leagues too,
anytime somebody tries to run a competing series that just
never seems to work. You know, we've seen it in
football they try to run this this this football spring thing,
which doesn't really get any traction. You know, we've seen
it with SRX that lasted only two years and they
had a TV contract and that kind of fizzled. You

(18:38):
know that That's where I think NASCAR has that's where
they you know, they have the leverage on this. But
again I don't I don't know what, Like Dan says,
I don't know, I don't know what the ending clause is.
What is what is Hammond looking to get out of it?
More money, you know than typical what's your numbers?

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Right? Exactly? A typical purse for a NASCAR Cup raise
is around eleven be a little less than eleven million
dollars per race. Think about that. That's that's the purse
for per race. The Infinity Series is running a little
over a million, one million dollars a race, and the
Truck Series is running about seven hundred and fifty thousand

(19:15):
dollars per race total. Perse Yeah, so if you want
to make the really big money, Brian, you must have
to go raise in Indy Car. Right.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
No, they're not, they're not. It's not that big there either.
It's it's it's not even I don't believe it's even
two million dollars. And I think the champion only gets
like a million dollars. It's not that high. Now you
have less cars, you know, you have twenty seven cars,
and there's even less teams, so you know, dividing that
chunk of money is you're getting a little bigger piece
of the pie versus when you're in the NASCAR.

Speaker 12 (19:41):
Side of it.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
But no, the Cup Series is that is the top
rung when it comes to the money coming in.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
And that's probably more so than it is the drivers.
Why people want to compete in the series because of
the money available.

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It's an investment either way, and you have to invest
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Speaker 3 (22:41):
Also this week they had apparently they had some sort
of meeting where they brought the owners in. They'd like
to keep the dialogue going. You know, they can't really
come up with any kind of solutions unless you keep talking.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
But a rumor came out that one of the own
that was in on the meeting said that NASCAR has
said that they're they're planning on changing the playoff format
next season as early as next season, which would coincide
with not racing the championship race at Phoenix at the

(23:19):
same time. This is kind of confusing for me. There
have been lots of ideas that have been floated how
to change the format and how to change the championship
for I guess there are folks, and there's certainly a
good argument to be made for it's a season, It's
a thirty six race season. How can it possibly come

(23:43):
down to one race and four guys with thirty six
or forty cars on the track, whoever finishes the highest.
It doesn't seem gosh, if you did that, a guy
like say Joey Logano could win the championship because he
didn't do squat all year except win one race, barely
made it through the playoffs, and as a matter of fact,
actually got eliminated from the playoffs, but was reinstated after

(24:06):
someone else got de qued and went on to win
the championship. Is he really the champion? Well, you don't
blame a guy for playing by the rules. They don't
make up the rules. They play by the rules. But
I don't know what the thing. Where are they going
with this playoff format?

Speaker 4 (24:21):
I think, all right now, the rumor out there is,
you know, right now we run a three three three
one format, which is sixteen races, you run three races elimination,
and you go all the way down to the one.
The one rumor right now is to go to a
three three four format where you run three races, eliminate guys,
run three races, eliminate guys, and then run four races.

(24:41):
So you'd be basically, you know, looking at you go
from sixteen races down to or from sixteen guys down
to twelve, and then you would have four races determine
that champion. But the way I look at that, then
you're going to be back to where we were before,
where you know, if a guy gets really hot and
wins the f he can almost coast through the final,

(25:03):
and then you're gonna have the scenario that we had
before where a guy they change it in the first Yeah,
where you're gonna have a guy where I don't have
to finish any better than twenty at to win this championship.
I just scratch my head and shake my head and go,
what are we doing here?

Speaker 7 (25:16):
I think they're on crack. That's why.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah, careful what you wish for? I mean, you keep changing.
That's my biggest issue is that they change and change
and change and change, and you're supposed to figure out
yearly basis. This is listen. I'm sorry, I'm not as
smart as apparently all these deep thinkers that have made
up this format we have now. I don't really understand

(25:43):
playoff points. What the hell do I care if I
have a playoff point?

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Is it's a.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Tiebreaker during the during the playoffs? Is that what that's
the whole thing is for.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
It's almost like they think they are a casino where
the house always wins, and they have to keep trying
to invent a way to ensure the house is always
going to win.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
It's always do what the TV is there? It is,
it's you know, what can we get people to watch
and be invested in and not not just like diehard
race fans Wti'll watch anything. I mean, I have like
the full season Champion. I didn't care for that and
then somebody wrapped it up early. Well that was it.
You know, he had a great year, but apparably that
wasn't enough to drive the TV ratings enough and then
to compete with the NFL and everything that. So we

(26:23):
had to come up with this, you know, crazy format
we had with the Chase, and now I got this
one playoff deal, which I didn't mind the one playoff
deal as bad as much. I mean, I didn't like
it overall because it kind of tarnished the whole season
championship thing. I honestly, I I don't remember who champions
were the last couple of years because it was just
that one race deal. He kind of forgot about it,
whereas I remember the full season ones more and then.

(26:44):
And so we had that one race deal. We get
to Phoenix, we had it was okay, well, now we're
going back to Attract. That's pretty great for a one
race deal. And I'm gonna change it up again.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (26:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
If you're going to negotiate the way the season ends,
you need to include the whoever runs NBC Sports because
obviously they have as much or more to say about
it than anybody else because they're paying the bills and
they're paying a lot of money, and if they like

(27:16):
this format of having one race. You can damn well
be sure they're not gonna change it, because then they
have to keep the people that are paying the bills.
They got to keep them happy. That's the way it works.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
And maybe you've.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
Got people making decisions that don't understand racing either though,
and that's what that's where the rub is.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
And maybe they're looking at it as Okay, maybe if
we go to this four race format, we're gonna get
eyeballs for all four of them versus just the one.
But I don't think that's really how it's gonna work.
I mean, I'm kind of torn because I don't like
like Dan said, I don't like that, you know, it's
not a full body of work to see who your
champion is, because you know, Joey Logano is a perfect
example of it, where he doesn't do anything all year

(27:56):
and then he wins a championship Like last year. I
walked out of there going how is this guy a champion?
But then again, it's cool to go there not knowing
what's gonna happen. You got four guys. There's the excitement
of it. You know who's gonna win this? We really
don't know until the race gets going. You know that
that's cool as well. So you know, as far as
a kind of a random fan, I'd lean more towards

(28:16):
the not knowing who's gonna win it. You might get
people excited for that one day to see what's gonna happen,
versus the truest where he says, you know this is
four races. I mean you still you still don't know
what you're gonna get with four races because somebody gets
hot for those four and sucks all year. What is
that gonna do.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
There's a rule in business that says you shouldn't be
chasing after your clients. You should just do what you
do best and the clients will come. And I think
that that is still applicable for NASCAR too. They need
to quit chasing after this elusive perfection and just do
what they do best because the audience will follow.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah, and they have historically done just that. But most
of the complaints you see and hear have to do
with God, I just got used to that last thing
and not a change it again.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
You're gonna have your people can especially in this age
of social media, everybody's gonna have something to bitch about.
And yeah, you gotta get a thick skin if you're
going to run a business.

Speaker 6 (29:14):
I mean, look look at it. Who's to get the
new fans that they're looking for? Because people like us,
we'll complain and complain and complain and complain, but guess what,
we're still gonna show up no matter what. And they
know that. You know, they know you're addicted and you're
not gonna not go, So they actually don't worry about that.
They're trying to chase the fans that may on the
fringe of me come and and be new to it,
so they'll they'll do these kind of formats to get

(29:35):
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Interesting much behind it. It's amazing, isn't it. Lots of
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The Dan Patrick Show. Anthony Edwards. You know, when you're
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Here because we were looking for the next Jeordian for
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Speaker 3 (32:43):
There's a broadheading of even squirrels trip over their nuts sometimes.

Speaker 7 (32:49):
Even a blind squirrel finds in nut sometimes.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
So yeah, I knew it was something like that. Yeah,
speaking of blind squirrels, how about the pole winner yesterday?
A j all, I'll be damn way to go guy.
That's pretty nice. That's pretty nice. Your season's turning right around.
That just I'm still shaking my hand. Where the hell
did that come from? Well, good for you, nice job.

(33:18):
Something came up this week. I don't cheating is a
is a lost art and NASCAR wants to make it
a lost art. They don't want anybody to cheat anytime anyhow.
They don't even want to think you're cheating, or they'll
come up with a rule for it and slap a
fine on you and and take it take playoff points away.
Well there's a new one. I had never heard of

(33:41):
this before, But then again, I'm just the don't follow
as close as I shot. Apparently the guys there were
three cars last week at Gateway that apparently after the
race were driving through the wet grass, which adds weight
onto the car, so they were worried that they were

(34:03):
going to be light. So I can't imagine how much
weight you gained by driving through wet grass. Now it
makes a lot more sense that they these same cars
supposedly were driving up into marbles. Well, that makes sense.
You're gonna get a rubber that's going to stick to
your tires, and that would seem to me to be
a lot more weight than whatever water was in the grass.

(34:24):
But NASCAR once somebody pointed it out to NASCAR, which
I don't even know if they found out on their own,
Oh for a rule for this.

Speaker 7 (34:34):
Now, they rarely find out on their own.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Somebody there was a video. Who was it? I think
it was a forty eight car and he said, car,
look at those track house cars driving through the grass.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
The irony of it being the forty eight car is back.
In twenty eleven, Chad Canal's crew chiefing for Jimmy Johnson
was caught on camera telling Johnson to intentionally jammage the
rear end of his car.

Speaker 7 (35:01):
If they want at Talladega.

Speaker 6 (35:02):
Make sure you cracked the back remember, yep, that's an
old dirt track thing.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
I mean, well, you race on the dirt and you
win the race or wherever you finished, you always drove
around in the mud just to make sure you had
extra weight on your car, you know, so you don't
have an issue like Scott Blunkwist did that when you're
when he won the Dream and he was light. You know,
you always try to do that. That's that's nothing new.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
I always thought the burnouts were done to rip that
backfender up, saying nothing to look at it in any
YEP inspections afterwards, and Todd Gordon kind of mentioned that
this week on the radio, didn't he.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Bran, Yeah, yeah, I was listening to that Late Shift
with Todd Gording. I think it was Monday. There's a
lot of talk last week because during the Xfinity race
you had that cameraman out there that almost got click
clicked off by Connor Zilich, and you know, people talking
about well why do they do the burnouts? And the
whole show before it was talking about you know, why
do these guys do the burnouts? Why do they wreck
their cars? And Todd Gordon's like, well, you do it

(35:53):
obviously to melt the tires down and get all that
rubber to stick up to your car and then wreck
the tolerance is on your car. He goes, we always
told him to do that. That that's that's why. That's
the whole burnout thing. Once it started to happen, you've
seen advantage in why you do it, and then that's
that was that's the goal. That's why everybody does it
all the time. He says, I always told my drivers,
make sure you do a good burnout. Try to get

(36:14):
all that rubber to stick to stick to your car
from that tire you had on there. Then when you
blow that tire out, you take it off, you put
another tire on there that's full of rubber. It's like
having two tires on your car and you crease the weight.
And I think I forget who he was talking to.
I think it was Dave Moody because it was while
they were switching over the two shows. And he's like,
you gotta be kidding me. He's like, no, We've been
doing that.

Speaker 7 (36:33):
For years that Moody didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
No, yeah, I know, you know. And Todd's like, oh, yeah,
that there's always he says, there's there's a reason why
we do everything we don't just do, you know, And
and it is those guys think about every little scenario
known to man out there and how to get an
advantage of it.

Speaker 6 (36:50):
You know, somebody used to do victory lanes, used to
jump on the roof of the car and they stopped
and they brought that little fence get out the preventive
from doing it and look kind of dumb.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
And because they talked about oh, you know, they talked
about well banning. You know a lot of Curmudgeons on
those shows, a ban the burnouts and all that stuff.
And Todd Gordon's like, no, he says, that's that's what
I mean. A lot of fans, you know, come out
there and that's the cool part. At the end of
the race. They want to see the guy do the burnouts.
He says. You know there's people that go to you know,
drifting is nothing but that, and there's people they fill

(37:19):
tracks to see drifting. He goes, we banned something like that,
it's going to be more egg on our face. You know. No,
you just find a way to work around it. You know,
you tell the guys your car's got to beat this
tolerance at the end of the race, and that's will
find a way around it. He said. It doesn't matter
how you change the rules, we will always find a
way around it. It's kind of cool to hear that
on the show on a NASCAR show.

Speaker 6 (37:40):
I mean, I think what really did it for me
and that thing was when they had the laser scanner
years ago, when people said, well, the flat black didn't
scan right, and everybody's putting flat black in your car,
and I thought that was come on. Then I actually
asked Ron Malick about it after he got out and
he said, oh, yeah, that was it. Somebody figured that
out and that flat black didn't scan the right way
or something like that. So you can get things to
the scanner, so that's crazy.

Speaker 7 (38:05):
Very did we lose Tad.

Speaker 6 (38:07):
We might have. I think we might have. He still
looked up, but he might have checked out.

Speaker 7 (38:12):
He had to make a pit stop.

Speaker 6 (38:14):
Yes, yeah, I mean maybe he clutched it in the
middle of the show.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (38:18):
We'll see, we'll get him back on there and that.
But that crazy, crazy deal, Uh how that works. I mean,
you think about things like that said, we always tell
a story from Chicago, right Brian, when we were seventy
eight car and a sticker was up and Brian's gonna
help them put the sticker down and put right away
that No, don't touch that car and do that.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
And weren't you helping somebody wants to put something on
a car?

Speaker 13 (38:38):
There?

Speaker 6 (38:38):
There was one time I was at Vegas and uh,
it's back when Jimmy Watson was still alive and I
was talking at him and he was rubbing some kind
of silica and thing on the car and he wroped
me out and I was like, I don't know what
I was doing, but you had to rub it at
a certain place to get to go through something. And
and he was like, did you better at us a sweek?
And I'm like I didn't like always like, well, you're
gonna be regretting that, And I'm like, yeah, whatever Holy
wanted won that race. And I'm thinking, did I have

(38:59):
something to do help Dick that car get through the
air better?

Speaker 7 (39:04):
I wasn't.

Speaker 6 (39:05):
I wasn't sure.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
That's awesome, hotter you bad?

Speaker 4 (39:08):
It is? It is.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
I didn't know I disappeared. I thought Dan disappeared. I
couldn't figure out where Dan went.

Speaker 7 (39:15):
We lost your momentarily.

Speaker 14 (39:16):
I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Either way, We're glad you tuned in. We're gonna sneak
away for a break when we come back. We've got
results from around the world of racing. Good stuff going
on these days. We'll be back right after.

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Speaker 4 (41:49):
Special events season across the Midwest as we wrap up
dirt track racing over the next month and a half.
We'll start Tuesday night Fergus Falls, Minnesota the I ninety
four Speedway. The kickoff to the Waspig was Soda one
hundred the Wassoda Challenge Series. Late Models were the headliners
and Kevin Eder was your winner there. They did it
again on Wednesday night, another round for the Wasoda Challenge
Series and Josh Zimple was your winner there Thursday Night.

(42:11):
Now Richmond, Wisconsin, Cedar Lake Speedway the kickoff to the
legendary one hundred, very similar to the Wassota one hundred,
but just for the cars on this side of the
Midwestern area. Night number one, they had twin preliminary features
in each division. Tim Eisenberg and Jesse Glentz were your
winners in the late Models that night, and the modifids
it was Daryl Nelson and Dylan Gettle. In usorry limited
lights went to Cade Nelson Fergus Falls, Minnesota, and the

(42:32):
actual preliminary night for the Wasta one hundred feature winners
in the late models were Chad beckerd and the modifieds
were Brandon Dolman. Also Thursday night in Bulls Gap, Tennessee
the Volunteer Speedway not far from the Bristol Motor Speedway
for Flow Late Model Night in America, twenty thousand dollars
to win for the super lights. Jonathan Davenport was your
winner there. Friday Night, Seymour, Wisconsin, the Outagamy County Speedway,

(42:53):
Night number one of their two day fall brawl. In
the late Models, Mike Mullen was your winner. Modified's Cody
Schrader Stock Cars was Cole Cernesky Don at Wilmont. The
ARI four ten sprint cars were your headliner there. Logan
Julian was your winner. The modified's Steve Miller fergus Falls, Minnesota.
In ninety four Speedway Night number two for the was
Sota one hundred and the late models Johnny Brooking was
your winner and the modifieds was Joseph Thomas. Down in Davenport, Iowa.

(43:16):
The Mars Dirt Car Series head night number one of
their two day special. Jason Feger was the Friday Night
winner there. Norman Park, Georgia, the need More Speedway for
the World of out Law Real American Beer Late Model series.
Nick Hoffman beat Bobby Pierce. You don't see that real
often to pick up the feature win there. Indianapolis, Indiana,
Friday Night Circle City Raceway for the usack Amzel National
Sprint Car Series. Justin Grant was your winner. Sarver, Pennsylvania

(43:38):
the Lernerville Speedway for the High Limit sprint Car series.
Tanner Thorson grabbed his first career national touring winged sprint
car feature wins, so congratulations to him. And Bakersfield, California,
Friday Night Current County Speedway for the World of out
Law sprint cars. Buddy Kofoyd was your winner there last night,
seymour Nate number two of Outagaming County Speedway's Fall Brawl
in the late models, Brett Swedburg was your winner. I

(43:59):
AMA Modif went to Lance Arnison. In the stock cards
was Nick Pakarma, and the Grand Nationals made a one
night appearance there. Jeff Richards took the win there. Franciskriek
the one forty one Speedway last night for the IRI
four ten sprint cars. Travis Aarons picked up the win there.
Believe or not, he won that big race there with
the High Limits series. He's been shut out since, so
he needed nothing more than a trip back to the
one forty one Speedway to get his winning mojo back,

(44:20):
and he did exactly that, picking up the win there
last night. Will moont night number two of their fall
special the MSA three sixty Sprints, where the headliners Ben
Schmidt was the winner. The IRI Wingless Sprints went to
Rusty Egan and the Mods went to Adam Abbey. The
final night at New Richmond, Wisconsin Cedar Lake Speedway for
the legendary one hundred in the late models, James Giassi
was your feature winner there. Modifies went to AJ Demo

(44:41):
and the USI Limited Lates went to Cade. Nelson Fergus Falls, Minnesota,
N ninety four Speedway for the championships for the was
Soda one hundred and the Late Models it was Chad
Becker and the Modiphis was Ryan Gurky. Fonda, New York.
The Shoot Short Track Super Series Big Block Modifieds ran
the Big Fonda two hundred and Matt Sheppard was your
winner there. Davenport, Iowa for the mar Car Series. Jason

(45:01):
Fager made a clean sweep of the racing there, picking
up both feature wins there Friday and now Saturday. Sonoya,
Georgia for the World of out Law Real American Beer
Late Models. Ashton Winger grabbed the win there. Last night
Hopstot Indiana the Tri States Speedway for the Hopstot Hustle
twenty thousand dollars to win. For the U SAC Amazon
National Sprint Cars, Logan Sebee was your winner there. Sarver, Pennsylvania,
Learnerville Speedwy for the highlam A Sprint Cars. Jason Pursley

(45:23):
grabbed the win there and finally out in Paris, California,
for the World of Outlaw NAS Engineering Sprint Car Series.
Bill Baylog picked up the World of Outlaw feature win
last night at Paris. Congratulations to Bill and his team
making the long trip out west worthwhile anytime Bill can
get a win, when you look at his team compared
to all the other teams out there, that is an
accomplishment for him. So I believe that's his third or

(45:44):
fourth win in the year for the World of out Law.
So congratulations to Bill. That is everything for this week.

Speaker 5 (45:49):
All right, onto the asphalt side of things. Last Sunday
at Slingers Speedway Light Model feature winner and champion Jaden Johnson.
Thursday night, the Arkhamnards East Series ran at Bristol. The
winner was Brent Cruz. The champion Isaac Kitts Miller. The
NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series also at Bristol on Thursday night,
Lane Riggs was the winner.

Speaker 7 (46:08):
Time of Jeski finished fourth.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
Friday night the Zmax Cars Tour at South Boston Speedway.
Prolate Model winner Keelan Harvick. Late Model Stock Car winner
was Caden honeycut the National Short Track Championships Dell's Raceway
Park on night one, CWR in Action Tyler Sowters, sweeping
both of those features. The series champion was Corey Jankowski.

(46:32):
Yesterday and last night Exfinity the NASCAR Infinity Series at Bristol,
the winner.

Speaker 7 (46:38):
Was Eric Almola.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
Sam Mayer was third, Carson Kwopple fourth, Park Retzloft sixteenth,
and Josh Bilicki twenty ninth.

Speaker 7 (46:46):
And then the National short.

Speaker 5 (46:47):
Track Championship at Dell's Raceway Park continued again last night.
The Modified's winner was Stephen Schulz and the Big eight
Late Model winner was Nick Noldan with Dan Margetta on.

Speaker 7 (46:57):
The camera all weekend.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
The Bet and How one hundred at Grundy County Speedway
the winner was Ricky Baker. Thunder super late Models at
the Marshfield Speedway for the bev Ashton Browner Memorial Your
winner was Jared de Boor.

Speaker 7 (47:10):
He also had fast time in his Toby Car.

Speaker 5 (47:13):
ASA Stars National Tour was at Toledo's Speedway.

Speaker 7 (47:16):
The winner was Dawson Sutton.

Speaker 5 (47:18):
Ty Majeski was fifth, Caden Quopple eighth, Austin Nason thirteenth,
Derek Thorn fifteenth, Bubb Apollard seventeenth, Penn Sowder dialed out
by Derrek Thorn finished nineteenth and Derek Krause was twenty
first in what was ultimately a slobber knocker. And then
today the sixtieth Annual National Short Track Championships continue at

(47:40):
Dell's Raceway Park. Once again, Dan Margett will be on
the camera. If you can't get there, it'll be on
Track TV or pit Road TV, sorry pit Road TV.
Super Late Models Alive for five series is running that
got rained out earlier in the season, so they're holding
that today along with the six h two Outlaws and
the Legends qualifying at twelve thirty. The first race will

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be at two pm at Del's Raceway Park for that
National Short Track Championships.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
No packers today, no cup rays to watch. Gosh, it
seems like a good day to come out. It's supposed
to be nice and warm this afternoon. It's just a
great day to come out to Del's Raceway Park.

Speaker 6 (48:18):
So and you think about it this time of the
year when you get a nice day weatherwise, and that
if you don't come today the next time, you may
not be till April. So you have a run an
out of times to come. So get out here April.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
When is it nice here in April?

Speaker 6 (48:30):
Come on having the next time you can go. You know,
if you don't.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Come down there, you go. Hey, I wanted to throw
a little thing in about the trucks, a lean riggs
one that the other night. I don't know if anybody
caught this, but I was. I was going through the
finishing order today and I see Norm Benning was in
the race. Norm is seventy three years old. And and

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Norm and another guy, some guy by the name of
Caleb Coostner. Sorry, I I'm unfamiliar with Caleb Coostner. Both
of those cars were black flag for being too slow.
Let's fill up the field with something. You know, they
used to bitch about starting parks, But you're gonna get
two guys that they can't even stand watching because they're

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going so slow.

Speaker 6 (49:15):
That's not why they put down for a reason? Was
it for out who slow?

Speaker 3 (49:20):
And hes on the official score sheet?

Speaker 6 (49:24):
Usually the PR way of saying that it's handling.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Handling exactly. This is the first time somebody honest, well,
this PR guy who will put this up there has
got a short career ahead of them. You know, when
we come back after this final break, we're going to
give our our thoughts on the next round, they're racing
at New Hampshire, Kansas and the Charlotte Robule in the

(49:49):
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Speaker 3 (53:00):
And the last when we started this portion of the
schedule and the first three race, what do they call it?
It's not a segment? What is it? First elimination round.
All four of us picked the three card to not
make it through to the next round. So that's the

(53:22):
one of the four that we all got correct. After that,
a couple of things that I thought were interesting. Brian
is the only one that picked Moleman not to make
it through to the next round. I am the only
one that picked SVG not to make it through to
the next round because he had so many playoff points
you can't miss whatever that means. And also PJ and

(53:46):
I were the only ones that picked Josh Berry not
to make it through to the next round. So Dan,
you and PJ both had the forty five being eliminated,
and it's that it's that two car that choked both
all of us up. We all had him on our
lists and he made it through to the next round.

(54:08):
So interestingly enough, so Dan, you had one, PJ, and
Brian two, myself three, and we're going to the next
round New Hampshire, Kansas and the Rovo. I'll just because
I'm on a roll here, I'm gonna start with this.
I believe that's the end of NASCAR's two biggest headaches,

(54:30):
the twenty three to eleven cars. Both of them will
get eliminated in this round. And I also I'm going
to go back to Cyndric, who I find it hard,
continues to scrape up enough to move to the next round,
and I think that Chastain is also going to be
So I'm going with the forty five twenty three and
one and two for the next round. All right, gang,

(54:52):
who wants to be next? Dan? How about you?

Speaker 6 (54:55):
All right?

Speaker 9 (54:55):
Well?

Speaker 6 (54:56):
First, John, I figured Penske cars are one better. That's
why I thought the twenty They want to have a shot.
He was off. I didn't count on the Toyota as
being that good at Darlington, and I had the forty
five in that rounds. I'm not gonna make that mistake
this time around. But I'm gonna agree with you on
the one and the two. I'm still a big Chastain
believer or Syndric, and then I'm gonna go with two
that are kind of out there. And because that's I

(55:16):
went logical last time and I got when we won, right,
So we're gonna go logical here. I'm gonna say this
is the end for Joey Legonald twenty two was out
this round. He was not going to be another champion
We're finally gonna get rid of that headache, and then
I'm gonna take the nine of Chase Elliott. I think
that I can understand. I think the twenty three eleven
cars are very good at Kansas, and I think the
way Toyota was so good so far in his round,

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I don't think he can count them out.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Jay, what do you think.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
I've got the same as you guys. With Austin Sindric
and Ross Chastain not making it through, I went with
Tyler Reddick as well, like you Todd, and like you Dan,
I'm taking Chase Elliott to be eliminated this next round.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Most popular Driver. Oh all right, Brian Yep.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
I got the same as PJ. I got the one, two, nine,
and forty five. And I know the twenty three eleven
cars are good at Kansas, but I think only one
of them obviously, only one of them is gonna be
able to win. And when you look at the attitudes
of between Bubba and Tyler Reddick, there's a stark difference
between the two of them. And it's Bubba who has
the really positive high you know, pep and his step
type attitude going on right now, and Tyler Reddick. Anytime

(56:24):
you hear him talking, just nothing goes right, and it's
that's gonna sink you sooner or later. So I think
Bubba's gonna move on and Tyler's gonna be out.

Speaker 7 (56:31):
Yeah he's e or from yes, yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
And it's opposite because those two were the other way
around the last how many years. So that went at
Indy really propelled Bubba.

Speaker 6 (56:41):
So Joey's gonna make it through this one again and
still be there.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
Oh yeah, Joey's gonna be a thorn on our side
at Phoenix.

Speaker 5 (56:46):
I have a feeling all squinty eyes, squinty mc squinty.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
Twinty do she eyes that's sweating was called Oh man,
there is the asterisk obviously that NASA car loves on
anybody's pick, and that is unless you win. And I
have to say that Kansas has been a pretty good
for Bubba and for Reddick. Am I wrong there?

Speaker 4 (57:14):
Yeah? Absolutely yeah? And I think one of those. I
think Bubba is probably gonna win that race. And I
think Joey's gonna be running really good there. That's why
I think I have him moving on because when you
look at the reset right now, you know Hammlin twenty
six points to the good Byron and Larson both have
twenty four. Lars is running like crap. He's a guy
that you think could get eliminated, but the so many
bonus points he has is what's keeping his head above water.

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Bell has twenty, Blainey has nineteen, Chase Brisco with ten,
and then Chase Elliott only has five from his one win,
and Bubba Wallace only has one, uh bonus one playoff
point right now going forward. So that's how it's reset
and they're to the good one to the good going forward.

Speaker 6 (57:51):
Yeah, Joey doesn't have hit this right, Yeah, Joey doesn't
have Kens at the dump King. Joey doesn't have kens
at the dump at King.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
He's just gonna say, wasn't that the place that that
Joey took? Can set out and cost him a championship
In the meantime, they won't say it was, but it
really was. But yeah, so it'll be fun three. By
the way, they by the time they get to the
rovo Let's face facts, Uh, we know who the favorite
is going to be there, and it's not a guy

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that made it out of the first round. That's the
way that that it's turned for NASCAR, Let's keep adding
road courses. Okay, you want to SVG to win six
seven races and just keep adding them and then not
win the championship, that'll be good press for you to
Why not let's go and change the whole format because
this hasn't working.

Speaker 6 (58:41):
I wonder that is the roval one of the races
that Zilich is going to be in this year or
has he done at his Cup season?

Speaker 4 (58:46):
Wonder? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
That would be good though, Yeah, that would be good stuff. Hey,
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