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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We are Wisconsin, Wtso matter sent ten seventy the K
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On a quest to bring the outdoors to you.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Once again. Our resident guides to the outdoors the Captain
and the Wall Dog.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Good Saturday morning, this is Wally the Wall Dog Vampia,
along with Captain Kerry. Friday morning, Captain hold.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
On, Wally, I got a big one coming by. I'm
seeing bucks in my sleep. They harass me all weekend. Man, jeez,
two and a half half hours I was out. I
had six different bucks and one shooter that I couldn't
he he was chasing some love, so he was going
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fifty mac mock fifty and so he blew by me.
But boy, I'll tell you good reports. A lot of
deer moving. So actually that's pretty much what we're talking
about today. Actually, the cool thing is we have Tom
Mitchell and he's live from his tree stand while he
got him out of his tree to do an interview.
(01:30):
And he is a trophy hunter. He's after a boon
and crocket buck with his bull. He shoots a lot
of big bucks and he's got some great tips. So
it'll be fun to listen to him as he kind
of whispers his interview, and then we're gonna check in
with Jeff Pritzel. Jeff is with the Wisconsin dn R.
We're gonna do a little twenty twenty four deer hunt
(01:51):
overview kind of talk what's going on there. Not a
ton of changes, but there is some some DNR meetings,
which I'll talk about in the last segment. Otherwise, every
week we get to talk about gear.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Now, which time for the Ultimate gear Heads. This week's
gearhead segment, it's fallowed by Middleton Ford, Middleton, Wisconsin. Hey,
before you start spending all your money on outdoor gear,
have the Ultimate Gearheads check it out. They will set
you straight.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Hey, folks, you don't see that Middleton Ford sticker. You
paid too much? Good time to get that car and
get everything checked over winter rise, because if you saw
what happened in Colorado, fifty three inches in northern New Mexico,
fifty three inches of snow. Good time to get into
Middleton Ford, Wally, What.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Do you got, Geez, you're gonna need good snow tires
for that Holy snichy the poork.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Cattle, it was up above their belly. It's like in
one snowstorm. Yeah wow, yep.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Well, Capn. This week's really cool piece of gear is
an ice fishing flasher sonar system. It's the brand new
twenty twenty four model Vexler fl X thirty eight BB.
This advanced portable ice unit features fifteen broadband sonar frequencies,
a high number of interference rejection options, and a unique
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adjustable variable zoom where you can zoom up and down
in a window. The FLX thirty eight Elite Pro pack
retails for right around eight hundred dollars and it's an
awesome piece of gear. Captain. You can see your jig
going up and down even in deep water.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah. Well, I see one place in the world that
they are ice fishing. That's up in Alberta. They are
actually ice fishing up there right now. And speaking of that,
the twenty twelve excuse me, twenty twenty four Wisconsin Ice
Fishing ex Bowl is December thirteenth through the fifteenth PAA
grounds in Osh Gosh Friday one to seven, Saturday nine
to seven, Sunday nine to four, and last year it
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was a packed house. So something to maybe take in, Wally.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Here's something else to take in Captain. There's the annual
Deer Hunter's Breakfast at I thirty one Supply and Portage, Wisconsin.
It's Friday, November twenty second, from six to ten am.
To ten dollars donation for a huge breakfast. There's tons
of raffle prizes, including a twelve thousand dollars trailer you
could win. There's Vortex optics and two rifles that Bow
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came over and purchased. There's two three ohit caliber rifles,
a Ruger and a weather Bee Captain. So go have
a great breakfast and donate some money for fantastic time.
That's at I thirty nine Supply, Friday, November twenty second.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Fantastic. Hey, I got some breaking news, folks, and this
applies to everyone that ever walked into the woods held
a piece of firearm or held a firearm. Finally, the
hunters won. The state of Colorado had the vote last
week on Mountain lion bobcat links ban, basically banning hunting
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for lions bobcats links forever. Well, the hunters got their
act together with politicians, fishing game key people and beat
this vote. So they won the vote. So I mean,
I think, Wally, if this would have went through. This
would have got contagious and spread to every state. Can
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you imagine banning and just think of someone to ban
your deer hunting for life? They they can, you know,
and certain states can do that. So hats off. I'm
gonna try to have Dan Gates back on to do
an overview after the vote.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Wally, Well, that's smart and good thing that went that direction. Cam.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Absolutely, you're right.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
It could go state to state. Hey, I should congratulate
Bill Legal, who was originally from playing Wisconsin. He won
two spools of Finn's brand raided fishing line by listening
to our show. Congratulations Bill, and enjoy that fishing line.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
All right, folks coming off, Tom Mitchell live from his
tree stand, Chasing Boone and Crockett Buck, Jeff Pritzel from
Wisconsin d and our little overview on the twenty twenty
four hunt. Stay with it.
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You were listening to Ultimate Outdoors Radio. Let's get back
to the Captain and the Waldog.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Hey, welcome back, folks, and thanks for listening. This segment
is brought to you by Vortex Optics. For all your
optics needs, go to Vortexoptics dot com. Joining us next
is an avid bow hunter and great sportsman. We're actually
calling him live out in his tree stand, Tom Mitchell.
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 9 (08:22):
Hey Waldog, thanks for having me on. By the way,
I do have my Vortex binoculars right here with me
while I'm sitting in the tree stand this morning it's
a beautiful.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Morning, fantastic. I know you're hunting a big buck in
your area. Tell us a little about your approach and
how you found out he's on that property and what
you have planned.
Speaker 9 (08:44):
Yeah, trail cameras, you know, most recent information is just
keeping an eye on those trail cameras. And he's been
up here. He's a Boone and Crockett buck, so he's
definitely one to be going after. And it's late on
October in the morning seem to be a little bit
better now than even the afternoon. So I got in
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here about an hour before sunrise. I've got a decoy,
a buck decoy out here in front of me at
about twenty five yards. I've already had three bucks, three
smaller bucks come through and a couple fonns. So it's
an exciting, perfect morning.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
So when you're using a decoy, do you do any
rattling or grunt calls or do you have a procedure
you go through?
Speaker 9 (09:34):
Yeah, so I have that all that equipment there, but
I'm I'm a believer that I'm not going to use
the horns or the grunt call unless I see the deer.
If I have him, you know, if I see him,
then I'll be able to draw him in a little
bit closer for a kill. Otherwise I kind of lay
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off the blind rattling and calling hasn't worked well for me.
But if I see the guy, if I see the
shooter buck that I'm after, then I'll use those the
horns or a call to bring him in a little
bit closer.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Tom, you've bow hunted for years. Now, what are some
of the bigger books you're able to trick over your time?
Speaker 9 (10:20):
Oh, I've got eight or nine big bucks on the wall,
a couple, a couple of boooners, a lot of popaons.
But it's all it's all archery. I just love this
bowl hunting. There's nothing like being out here in the
wild trying to get this elusive big game animal within,
you know, thirty forty yards of where you're at, you know,
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playing the wind, using sun control, you know, camouflage equipment.
It's just so much fun to do this every year.
I'm so thankful that that has made me a ball
on her This is this is really exciting to me.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
You know, it's fun. Bow Hunters just really love their sport.
They love that time in the woods and it's actually
a peaceful time. And then you can get exciting real quick,
can't it.
Speaker 10 (11:15):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (11:15):
I sure can, And it can all happen in a
matter of five seconds, you know, especially this time of
the year, this is go time. This late October is
the best in my opinion. The ruts always fun, you know,
you get activity and you get gear running around and chasing.
But the last week in October has always been the
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best for me. And I've taken my biggest bucks, you know,
during the last last week in October, October, just before
and right around Halloween. It's always seems to be the best.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Now, how do you feel about using sense today? Make
sense for you?
Speaker 9 (11:55):
You know, sometimes it does. They've worked a few times
for me, you know, when you're working rub lions and
scrape scrape lions and stuff like that. I've used some
of the natural sense to bring these deer in because
they get curious and they want to check things out.
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So it hasn't hurt me, let's put it that way.
So yeah, I'll use that from time to time. It
just depends on the situation. In the scenario.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
We had mentioned scrapes and folks, I should tell you
we're talking with Tom Mitchell. He is live in his
tree stand right now chasing a big buck. Do you
make your own scrapes so that the buck will come
in and check it out?
Speaker 9 (12:40):
I do, yep. I do make mock scrapes and licking branches,
and I use ropes sometimes. I don't get too crazy
doing that stuff, but I do. I do it on occasion,
Like I said, in the right location at the right time.
When you have a big buck in the area, you know,
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it's just that one extra thing there that can bring
them in a little bit more often and obviously close
enough so that you can get a kill.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
You talked about like lick branches and ropes and what happens.
Don't all the deer kind of start relating to that
and rubbing their scent on that rope.
Speaker 9 (13:20):
Yeah, they do, for sure. It's a curiosity thing for
most of the deer, and they come and check it
out and they visit it frequently. So anything that gives
you a little bit of an advantage is always a
lot of fun. So that's what makes this sports so enjoyable.
So you can do so many different things and they
have so many different great experiences. It's just great being
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out here.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Well, Tom, thanks for taking time out to visit with
us and give us a report back. I hope you
shoot that big booner.
Speaker 9 (13:52):
I will well, Doc, Thanks for having me on you guys.
Have a great day and I always remember be safe
where your safety arnestantastic folks.
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will be right back.
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We're gonna talk with Jeff Pritzel from the Wisconsin dn R.
Jeff is Deer Program special us gomar on.
Speaker 13 (16:00):
Jeff, Hey, Terry, how are you doing well.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
We're doing great. Thanks for taking time. I know it's
the busy time of the year for you guys, So
let's just jump into it, Jeff and we'll Well, first
question I'll ask you is kind of what you're seeing,
what the outlook is the bowl season seems to be
pretty successful, gun season, and any other thoughts you got.
Speaker 13 (16:22):
Yeah, well, as we're approaching gun season, this is that
time of year where anticipation is peaking and it's just
you can kind of feel it.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
In the air.
Speaker 13 (16:29):
And yeah, the good news is, you know, if we
look at archery harvests as maybe a barometer, things are
pretty much tracking on average in much of the state,
and in the Northern Forest where things dropped off last fall,
it's it's also pretty much back to normal, and so
that that loss we saw in twenty three has kind
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of returned to normal this year. So that's that's good
for you know, for hopefully you know how things will
play out for the gun season.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, that Northern forest you mentioned, do you see a
lot of fluctuation whether it's dough or buck harvest, And
I know you guys have had a lot of talks
about the Northern forest in Wisconsin.
Speaker 13 (17:09):
Yeah, one of the things that's inherent about the Northern
forest is we're always going to be on a bit
of a roller coaster. You know, we're very sensitive to
severe winters. The good news is we had a super
mild winter last fall, and so der sightings seem to
be up this year, if pond production is up. Antler
development is really good this year because they came out
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of last winter in such good condition, and so hopefully
the roller coasters aren't going in the right direction this well.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, and I know there's some people kind of not
too happy with you know, obviously we can't get a
wolf season implemented, and there's a lot of bears, and
predation is tough in any state. I don't care what
state you go to. Predation is hard on some big
games sometime, but on big games sometime. But Jeff wanted
to ask you. We haven't really talked about chronic waste lately,
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and do you do you feel that there's enough harvest
and you know what we call the farmland zones where
people can buy extra dough tags, do you do you
see that hunters managing that or what do you see?
Speaker 13 (18:15):
Yeah, that thinks that's a great question, Terry. And the
frank answer is, unfortunately not whether it's chronic wasting disease
or even some other issues, but certainly the most important
thing we could do to manage chronic wasting disease is
harvest more deer, frankly, and and get the deer density
down in some of these you know, high density areas,
you know, especially where the disease occurs, because that's just
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a bad combination. And so yeah, we just need to
encourage hunters to not only kind of do their part
for the hunting community as a whole by by taking
some more antler lists deer in the farmland. And and
that's not a Wisconsin issue. All the eastern states are
kind of struggling with the same thing.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, Jeff, is any EHD popped up in the state
at all?
Speaker 13 (19:00):
Yeah, we did have a I guess what you say,
a little bit of an occurrence. I mean, Wisconsin is
fortunate that we don't get hit as hard as some
of the states to the south and west of US,
but we did confirm e HD this year, and I
believe four counties. There was a few other counties that
it was suspect, and I want to say the furthest
North was like Chippewa County and then Jackson County. I
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think Lacrosse had some that either were confirmed or suspect
in another county.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, not enough.
Speaker 13 (19:33):
Yeah, I was just saying, not enough to have what
we'd call a population level impact like some of the
other states can have, but certainly on a very local
level people may notice it.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, we got a couple of minutes left, Jeff. You know,
you and I talked off air about how we as
hunters need to involve non hunting folks in order to
support basically support the future of hunting. You want to
touch on that, We had some good conversation that we
got about a minute and a half.
Speaker 13 (19:59):
Yeah, Well, in this it ties back to what we
were talking about earlier about achieving an adequate antler list harvest,
because if you think about it, over eighty percent of
Wisconsin it are not deer hunters, but they're impacted by
deer and so they're paying attention and watching as well.
And in the end, as our hunter numbers inevitably continue
to drink a little bit, we've become a smaller part
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of the population. We're dependent on that big majority to
see us as an asset, you know, not of the liability,
and there are ways we can achieve that, and that
puts into deer populations, the minimized car accidents, to minimized
a damage, that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, you make a good point. You want to so
quickly touch Jeff. I see there's four open houses on
proposed changes to Wisconsin Deer Management you and it's got
about thirty seconds.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Sure.
Speaker 13 (20:50):
Yeah, thanks, And this again goes back to what we
talked about earlier with some of the challenges in the north.
This is designed to review the deer management unit boundaries
and it's looking like a reset to habitat based unit
so that we can properly allocate antlerless permits that match
dear density of your hunter density performance of the landscape
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a little better than the county based units.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yep. And we'll keep people in formed. Jeff, I want
to thank you for taking time as Jeff Britzel, Deer
Program Specialist Wisconsin dn R. You have a safe and
great deer season, Jeff.
Speaker 13 (21:25):
YouTube cherry and good luck to everybody out there.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
You bet. Thanks.
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Speaker 4 (23:43):
Hey, welcome back, folks, and thanks for listening. You know,
people do some incredibly stupid things outdoors, and now it's time.
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Now it's time for the Ultimate Damas segment.
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Captain, Yeah, Wally, my Grandpa Ray's food plots just gnawed
down to nothing, I'll tell you it. They just love
that stuff throughout the summer and fall. Well, we're staying
in Wisconsin for this week's UDA, and we're talking about
cicada poachers down in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. DNR reminded people
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that's illegal to harvest cicadas. Wally, I'm guessing they're going
to be going away with these tempts here. But this
was just a late summer report. Multiple reports of people
harvesting cicadas at Bigfoot Beach. So what they do, Wally,
is they deep fry these and then they dip them
(24:52):
in chocolate. The taste of a cicada is described as
similar to shrimp or as mild and nutty. So there
you go.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Well, Capn I saw on TV that they had a
festival down there in Lake Geneva, and they're all dressing
up and dancing around like cicadas. So maybe after you
eat those you get a little weird. Really, Yeah, they
have a festival down there and this caada's only come
around so many years. And then they have a big
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party and it is at Lake Geneva.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Okay, hey, I need to remind folks I talked earlier
in the segment here. Wisconsin DNR is going to have
some meetings in November. Basically they're changing some of the
state's deer management units. It looks like most of these
are up north North and some of the farmland units.
Probably best to go to the DNR website. But Monday
(25:50):
November eighteenth, there's one that's a virtual one, and cable
there's one November nineteenth, and then in Adams County November twentieth.
If you want to check those out, the best to
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Speaker 4 (26:03):
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and Linda have tracking dogs. So if you happen to
shoot a buck and are not able to find it, Captain,
(26:26):
We've had shown on the show many times and Linda,
best not to chase all over in the woods and
get it all stinky. You should stay out of the
woods and give them a call. They're tracking dogs will
come and find your buck for you.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, it's it's best just to take a deep breath
and leave them for a little bit and take ethical shots.
That's the first thing to do. Hey, Dn r confirmed
EHD and I know Jeff Pritzel is going to talk
talked a little bit about this, but EHD and Jackson,
Chipwah and Walkshaw Counties, this is up all over. I
(27:01):
know it was pretty prominent down in Perdishen a couple
of years ago. In Iowa, I know in the Dakota's
I think it was North Dakota about wiped the deer
herd out one year or so. This is some some
pretty serious stuff, and you know, it's just something we
got to deal with. There isn't much you can do
(27:23):
about it. But I did see a video where a
buck yesterday I was on social media might have had
EHD or CWD walking in circles. So anyway, yeah, is.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Ned captain where they have trouble getting moisture into their body.
It's like a blue tongue disease.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Well, the midges transfer this stuff, you know, the EHD.
I heard him. I think I'm correct there. I get
hard to keep up with. You know, while you know
the guys out in a tree, you kind of lose
contact with the world.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
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a serene, peaceful life. Really slows down and can enjoy
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folks that are against hunters, and on and on and on.
Almost six hundred million pounds of game meat was harvested
each year ninety nine percent of all harvested gay meat
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is consumed. Three hundred and sixty three million pounds is
consumed by hunters and their families, and another one hundred
and twelve million pounds of meat stored by hunters for
future consumption. Hunters share. Here's a good one, Walley hunters
share one hundred nineteen million pounds of harvested game to
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grow food organizations, food banks, hunters for the hungry, on
and on, talking like five hundred million meals. So the
hunter on the back, he's feeding people. Folks.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Yep, I think it's awesome when people don't have much
to eat, and wild game is actually very good for you,
like venison, hamburger. You can make all kinds of stuff,
So if you get a chance, donate them to a
food pantry or people that are willing to take it
for the needy.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Hey, be safe out there. Send us your picks. We
can post them up on our rotating web banner also
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are on our website email addresses have a safe deer hunt,
Bowl Hunt, and we'll talk next week about the upcoming
Big Game season.
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Once again. Our resident guides to the outdoors the Captain
and the Wall Dog.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Good Saturday morning, this is Wally the Wall Dog Vampia,
along with Captain Kerry. Friday morning, Captain hold.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
On, Wally, I got a big one coming by. I'm
seeing bucks in my sleep. They harass me all weekend. Man, jeez,
two and a half half hours I was out. I
had six different bucks and one shooter that I couldn't
he he was chasing some love, so he was going
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fifty mac mock fifty and so he blew by me.
But boy, I'll tell you good reports. A lot of
deer moving. So actually that's pretty much what we're talking
about today. Actually, the cool thing is we have Tom
Mitchell and he's live from his tree stand while he
got him out of his tree to do an interview.
(01:30):
And he is a trophy hunter. He's after a boon
and crocket buck with his bull. He shoots a lot
of big bucks and he's got some great tips. So
it'll be fun to listen to him as he kind
of whispers his interview, and then we're gonna check in
with Jeff Pritzel. Jeff is with the Wisconsin dn R.
We're gonna do a little twenty twenty four deer hunt
(01:51):
overview kind of talk what's going on there. Not a
ton of changes, but there is some some DNR meetings,
which I'll talk about in the last segment. Otherwise, every
week we get to talk about gear.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Now, which time for the Ultimate gear Heads. This week's
gearhead segment, it's fallowed by Middleton Ford, Middleton, Wisconsin. Hey,
before you start spending all your money on outdoor gear,
have the Ultimate Gearheads check it out. They will set
you straight.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Hey, folks, you don't see that Middleton Ford sticker. You
paid too much? Good time to get that car and
get everything checked over winter rise, because if you saw
what happened in Colorado, fifty three inches in northern New Mexico,
fifty three inches of snow. Good time to get into
Middleton Ford, Wally, What.
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Do you got, Geez, you're gonna need good snow tires
for that Holy snichy the poork.
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Cattle, it was up above their belly. It's like in
one snowstorm. Yeah wow, yep.
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Well, Capn. This week's really cool piece of gear is
an ice fishing flasher sonar system. It's the brand new
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in a window. The FLX thirty eight Elite Pro pack
retails for right around eight hundred dollars and it's an
awesome piece of gear. Captain. You can see your jig
going up and down even in deep water.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah. Well, I see one place in the world that
they are ice fishing. That's up in Alberta. They are
actually ice fishing up there right now. And speaking of that,
the twenty twelve excuse me, twenty twenty four Wisconsin Ice
Fishing ex Bowl is December thirteenth through the fifteenth PAA
grounds in Osh Gosh Friday one to seven, Saturday nine
to seven, Sunday nine to four, and last year it
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was a packed house. So something to maybe take in, Wally.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Here's something else to take in Captain. There's the annual
Deer Hunter's Breakfast at I thirty one Supply and Portage, Wisconsin.
It's Friday, November twenty second, from six to ten am.
To ten dollars donation for a huge breakfast. There's tons
of raffle prizes, including a twelve thousand dollars trailer you
could win. There's Vortex optics and two rifles that Bow
(04:15):
came over and purchased. There's two three ohit caliber rifles,
a Ruger and a weather Bee Captain. So go have
a great breakfast and donate some money for fantastic time.
That's at I thirty nine Supply, Friday, November twenty second.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Fantastic. Hey, I got some breaking news, folks, and this
applies to everyone that ever walked into the woods held
a piece of firearm or held a firearm. Finally, the
hunters won. The state of Colorado had the vote last
week on Mountain lion bobcat links ban, basically banning hunting
(04:53):
for lions bobcats links forever. Well, the hunters got their
act together with politicians, fishing game key people and beat
this vote. So they won the vote. So I mean,
I think, Wally, if this would have went through. This
would have got contagious and spread to every state. Can
(05:16):
you imagine banning and just think of someone to ban
your deer hunting for life? They they can, you know,
and certain states can do that. So hats off. I'm
gonna try to have Dan Gates back on to do
an overview after the vote.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Wally, Well, that's smart and good thing that went that direction. Cam.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Absolutely, you're right.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
It could go state to state. Hey, I should congratulate
Bill Legal, who was originally from playing Wisconsin. He won
two spools of Finn's brand raided fishing line by listening
to our show. Congratulations Bill, and enjoy that fishing line.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
All right, folks coming off, Tom Mitchell live from his
tree stand, Chasing Boone and Crockett Buck, Jeff Pritzel from
Wisconsin d and our little overview on the twenty twenty
four hunt. Stay with it.
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You were listening to Ultimate Outdoors Radio. Let's get back
to the Captain and the Waldog.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Hey, welcome back, folks, and thanks for listening. This segment
is brought to you by Vortex Optics. For all your
optics needs, go to Vortexoptics dot com. Joining us next
is an avid bow hunter and great sportsman. We're actually
calling him live out in his tree stand, Tom Mitchell.
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 9 (08:22):
Hey Waldog, thanks for having me on. By the way,
I do have my Vortex binoculars right here with me
while I'm sitting in the tree stand this morning it's
a beautiful.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Morning, fantastic. I know you're hunting a big buck in
your area. Tell us a little about your approach and
how you found out he's on that property and what
you have planned.
Speaker 9 (08:44):
Yeah, trail cameras, you know, most recent information is just
keeping an eye on those trail cameras. And he's been
up here. He's a Boone and Crockett buck, so he's
definitely one to be going after. And it's late on
October in the morning seem to be a little bit
better now than even the afternoon. So I got in
(09:07):
here about an hour before sunrise. I've got a decoy,
a buck decoy out here in front of me at
about twenty five yards. I've already had three bucks, three
smaller bucks come through and a couple fonns. So it's
an exciting, perfect morning.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
So when you're using a decoy, do you do any
rattling or grunt calls or do you have a procedure
you go through?
Speaker 9 (09:34):
Yeah, so I have that all that equipment there, but
I'm I'm a believer that I'm not going to use
the horns or the grunt call unless I see the deer.
If I have him, you know, if I see him,
then I'll be able to draw him in a little
bit closer for a kill. Otherwise I kind of lay
(09:55):
off the blind rattling and calling hasn't worked well for me.
But if I see the guy, if I see the
shooter buck that I'm after, then I'll use those the
horns or a call to bring him in a little
bit closer.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Tom, you've bow hunted for years. Now, what are some
of the bigger books you're able to trick over your time?
Speaker 9 (10:20):
Oh, I've got eight or nine big bucks on the wall,
a couple, a couple of boooners, a lot of popaons.
But it's all it's all archery. I just love this
bowl hunting. There's nothing like being out here in the
wild trying to get this elusive big game animal within,
you know, thirty forty yards of where you're at, you know,
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playing the wind, using sun control, you know, camouflage equipment.
It's just so much fun to do this every year.
I'm so thankful that that has made me a ball
on her This is this is really exciting to me.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
You know, it's fun. Bow Hunters just really love their sport.
They love that time in the woods and it's actually
a peaceful time. And then you can get exciting real quick,
can't it.
Speaker 10 (11:15):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (11:15):
I sure can, And it can all happen in a
matter of five seconds, you know, especially this time of
the year, this is go time. This late October is
the best in my opinion. The ruts always fun, you know,
you get activity and you get gear running around and chasing.
But the last week in October has always been the
(11:37):
best for me. And I've taken my biggest bucks, you know,
during the last last week in October, October, just before
and right around Halloween. It's always seems to be the best.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Now, how do you feel about using sense today? Make
sense for you?
Speaker 9 (11:55):
You know, sometimes it does. They've worked a few times
for me, you know, when you're working rub lions and
scrape scrape lions and stuff like that. I've used some
of the natural sense to bring these deer in because
they get curious and they want to check things out.
(12:16):
So it hasn't hurt me, let's put it that way.
So yeah, I'll use that from time to time. It
just depends on the situation. In the scenario.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
We had mentioned scrapes and folks, I should tell you
we're talking with Tom Mitchell. He is live in his
tree stand right now chasing a big buck. Do you
make your own scrapes so that the buck will come
in and check it out?
Speaker 9 (12:40):
I do, yep. I do make mock scrapes and licking branches,
and I use ropes sometimes. I don't get too crazy
doing that stuff, but I do. I do it on occasion,
Like I said, in the right location at the right time.
When you have a big buck in the area, you know,
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it's just that one extra thing there that can bring
them in a little bit more often and obviously close
enough so that you can get a kill.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
You talked about like lick branches and ropes and what happens.
Don't all the deer kind of start relating to that
and rubbing their scent on that rope.
Speaker 9 (13:20):
Yeah, they do, for sure. It's a curiosity thing for
most of the deer, and they come and check it
out and they visit it frequently. So anything that gives
you a little bit of an advantage is always a
lot of fun. So that's what makes this sports so enjoyable.
So you can do so many different things and they
have so many different great experiences. It's just great being
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out here.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Well, Tom, thanks for taking time out to visit with
us and give us a report back. I hope you
shoot that big booner.
Speaker 9 (13:52):
I will well, Doc, Thanks for having me on you guys.
Have a great day and I always remember be safe
where your safety arnestantastic folks.
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That was Tom Mitchell Live from the Woods, Stay tuned,
will be right back.
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We're gonna talk with Jeff Pritzel from the Wisconsin dn R.
Jeff is Deer Program special us gomar on.
Speaker 13 (16:00):
Jeff, Hey, Terry, how are you doing well.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
We're doing great. Thanks for taking time. I know it's
the busy time of the year for you guys, So
let's just jump into it, Jeff and we'll Well, first
question I'll ask you is kind of what you're seeing,
what the outlook is the bowl season seems to be
pretty successful, gun season, and any other thoughts you got.
Speaker 13 (16:22):
Yeah, well, as we're approaching gun season, this is that
time of year where anticipation is peaking and it's just
you can kind of feel it.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
In the air.
Speaker 13 (16:29):
And yeah, the good news is, you know, if we
look at archery harvests as maybe a barometer, things are
pretty much tracking on average in much of the state,
and in the Northern Forest where things dropped off last fall,
it's it's also pretty much back to normal, and so
that that loss we saw in twenty three has kind
(16:50):
of returned to normal this year. So that's that's good
for you know, for hopefully you know how things will
play out for the gun season.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, that Northern forest you mentioned, do you see a
lot of fluctuation whether it's dough or buck harvest, And
I know you guys have had a lot of talks
about the Northern forest in Wisconsin.
Speaker 13 (17:09):
Yeah, one of the things that's inherent about the Northern
forest is we're always going to be on a bit
of a roller coaster. You know, we're very sensitive to
severe winters. The good news is we had a super
mild winter last fall, and so der sightings seem to
be up this year, if pond production is up. Antler
development is really good this year because they came out
(17:30):
of last winter in such good condition, and so hopefully
the roller coasters aren't going in the right direction this well.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, and I know there's some people kind of not
too happy with you know, obviously we can't get a
wolf season implemented, and there's a lot of bears, and
predation is tough in any state. I don't care what
state you go to. Predation is hard on some big
games sometime, but on big games sometime. But Jeff wanted
to ask you. We haven't really talked about chronic waste lately,
(18:00):
and do you do you feel that there's enough harvest
and you know what we call the farmland zones where
people can buy extra dough tags, do you do you
see that hunters managing that or what do you see?
Speaker 13 (18:15):
Yeah, that thinks that's a great question, Terry. And the
frank answer is, unfortunately not whether it's chronic wasting disease
or even some other issues, but certainly the most important
thing we could do to manage chronic wasting disease is
harvest more deer, frankly, and and get the deer density
down in some of these you know, high density areas,
you know, especially where the disease occurs, because that's just
(18:37):
a bad combination. And so yeah, we just need to
encourage hunters to not only kind of do their part
for the hunting community as a whole by by taking
some more antler lists deer in the farmland. And and
that's not a Wisconsin issue. All the eastern states are
kind of struggling with the same thing.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, Jeff, is any EHD popped up in the state
at all?
Speaker 13 (19:00):
Yeah, we did have a I guess what you say,
a little bit of an occurrence. I mean, Wisconsin is
fortunate that we don't get hit as hard as some
of the states to the south and west of US,
but we did confirm e HD this year, and I
believe four counties. There was a few other counties that
it was suspect, and I want to say the furthest
North was like Chippewa County and then Jackson County. I
(19:23):
think Lacrosse had some that either were confirmed or suspect
in another county.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, not enough.
Speaker 13 (19:33):
Yeah, I was just saying, not enough to have what
we'd call a population level impact like some of the
other states can have, but certainly on a very local
level people may notice it.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, we got a couple of minutes left, Jeff. You know,
you and I talked off air about how we as
hunters need to involve non hunting folks in order to
support basically support the future of hunting. You want to
touch on that, We had some good conversation that we
got about a minute and a half.
Speaker 13 (19:59):
Yeah, Well, in this it ties back to what we
were talking about earlier about achieving an adequate antler list harvest,
because if you think about it, over eighty percent of
Wisconsin it are not deer hunters, but they're impacted by
deer and so they're paying attention and watching as well.
And in the end, as our hunter numbers inevitably continue
to drink a little bit, we've become a smaller part
(20:20):
of the population. We're dependent on that big majority to
see us as an asset, you know, not of the liability,
and there are ways we can achieve that, and that
puts into deer populations, the minimized car accidents, to minimized
a damage, that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, you make a good point. You want to so
quickly touch Jeff. I see there's four open houses on
proposed changes to Wisconsin Deer Management you and it's got
about thirty seconds.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Sure.
Speaker 13 (20:50):
Yeah, thanks, And this again goes back to what we
talked about earlier with some of the challenges in the north.
This is designed to review the deer management unit boundaries
and it's looking like a reset to habitat based unit
so that we can properly allocate antlerless permits that match
dear density of your hunter density performance of the landscape
(21:11):
a little better than the county based units.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yep. And we'll keep people in formed. Jeff, I want
to thank you for taking time as Jeff Britzel, Deer
Program Specialist Wisconsin dn R. You have a safe and
great deer season, Jeff.
Speaker 13 (21:25):
YouTube cherry and good luck to everybody out there.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
You bet. Thanks.
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Hey, welcome back, folks, and thanks for listening. You know,
people do some incredibly stupid things outdoors, and now it's time.
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Now it's time for the Ultimate Damas segment.
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Captain, Yeah, Wally, my Grandpa Ray's food plots just gnawed
down to nothing, I'll tell you it. They just love
that stuff throughout the summer and fall. Well, we're staying
in Wisconsin for this week's UDA, and we're talking about
cicada poachers down in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. DNR reminded people
(24:30):
that's illegal to harvest cicadas. Wally, I'm guessing they're going
to be going away with these tempts here. But this
was just a late summer report. Multiple reports of people
harvesting cicadas at Bigfoot Beach. So what they do, Wally,
is they deep fry these and then they dip them
(24:52):
in chocolate. The taste of a cicada is described as
similar to shrimp or as mild and nutty. So there
you go.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Well, Capn I saw on TV that they had a
festival down there in Lake Geneva, and they're all dressing
up and dancing around like cicadas. So maybe after you
eat those you get a little weird. Really, Yeah, they
have a festival down there and this caada's only come
around so many years. And then they have a big
(25:24):
party and it is at Lake Geneva.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Okay, hey, I need to remind folks I talked earlier
in the segment here. Wisconsin DNR is going to have
some meetings in November. Basically they're changing some of the
state's deer management units. It looks like most of these
are up north North and some of the farmland units.
Probably best to go to the DNR website. But Monday
(25:50):
November eighteenth, there's one that's a virtual one, and cable
there's one November nineteenth, and then in Adams County November twentieth.
If you want to check those out, the best to
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Speaker 4 (26:03):
Wally, it's time now for our Spring Valley Kennel field Report.
If you happen to be traveling or going hunting and
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and Linda have tracking dogs. So if you happen to
shoot a buck and are not able to find it, Captain,
(26:26):
We've had shown on the show many times and Linda,
best not to chase all over in the woods and
get it all stinky. You should stay out of the
woods and give them a call. They're tracking dogs will
come and find your buck for you.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, it's it's best just to take a deep breath
and leave them for a little bit and take ethical shots.
That's the first thing to do. Hey, Dn r confirmed
EHD and I know Jeff Pritzel is going to talk
talked a little bit about this, but EHD and Jackson,
Chipwah and Walkshaw Counties, this is up all over. I
(27:01):
know it was pretty prominent down in Perdishen a couple
of years ago. In Iowa, I know in the Dakota's
I think it was North Dakota about wiped the deer
herd out one year or so. This is some some
pretty serious stuff, and you know, it's just something we
got to deal with. There isn't much you can do
(27:23):
about it. But I did see a video where a
buck yesterday I was on social media might have had
EHD or CWD walking in circles. So anyway, yeah, is.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Ned captain where they have trouble getting moisture into their body.
It's like a blue tongue disease.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Well, the midges transfer this stuff, you know, the EHD.
I heard him. I think I'm correct there. I get
hard to keep up with. You know, while you know
the guys out in a tree, you kind of lose
contact with the world.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
And that's the good part about bow honey. It's such
a serene, peaceful life. Really slows down and can enjoy
yourself out in the wild. It's bull Hunting is awesome sport.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Hey, we want to remind folks what hunters do for
society here and here's just some numbers for all you
folks that are against hunters, and on and on and on.
Almost six hundred million pounds of game meat was harvested
each year ninety nine percent of all harvested gay meat
(28:28):
is consumed. Three hundred and sixty three million pounds is
consumed by hunters and their families, and another one hundred
and twelve million pounds of meat stored by hunters for
future consumption. Hunters share. Here's a good one, Walley hunters
share one hundred nineteen million pounds of harvested game to
(28:49):
grow food organizations, food banks, hunters for the hungry, on
and on, talking like five hundred million meals. So the
hunter on the back, he's feeding people. Folks.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Yep, I think it's awesome when people don't have much
to eat, and wild game is actually very good for you,
like venison, hamburger. You can make all kinds of stuff,
So if you get a chance, donate them to a
food pantry or people that are willing to take it
for the needy.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Hey, be safe out there. Send us your picks. We
can post them up on our rotating web banner also
on social media. Feel free to send it. Our addresses
are on our website email addresses have a safe deer hunt,
Bowl Hunt, and we'll talk next week about the upcoming
Big Game season.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
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