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Speaker 1 (00:12):
You're on board with Ultimate Outdoors Radio, a quest.
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To bring the outdoors to you once again.
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Our resident guides to the outdoors the Captain and the
Wall Dog.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Hey good Saturday morning. This is Wally the Wall Dog
Bampi along with Captain Terry Fry Morning, Captain barn Waldog.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Welcome to the best time of year as far as
I'm concerned, man, this has been a gorgeous fall and
things are happening in the woods, things are happening on
the water, and so it's for an outdoor guy, fisherman, hunter,
it is the best time. So on this week's show,
we're gonna head out to North Dakota talk with Sean
(00:59):
Timmins Dakota Sunset Resort, Gonna talk a little waterfowl. The
pheasant populations are up out there. I can testify to
that when I was out there this spring, and also
some late season fishing. And then we're gonna head and
fish the northern part of the Mississippi River pools three
four five, well, three four, I should say, two three
(01:20):
four on the Mississippi River. Dann maguire, we're gonna talk
about the big Sager migration that happens on the Mississippi
from Lake Peppa, North. If you don't know about that,
you really should think about fishing. That A sager's to
twenty four inches And it's a pretty cool deal that
a lot of people don't know about it. But otherwise,
every week we get to talk about gear.
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Captain Wally, I bought one of those this year, and
I'll tell you what, it's one of the best things
I've ever purchased.
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That thing.
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We'll just and you know it doesn't It's got a
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I know I could easily go three to four days
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great product. So otherwise in the news Wally fishing. Yeah,
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guys are out there, but a lot of them have
switched over to pheasant hunting.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Guys are getting pheasant.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
They're stocking every every.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Week, it seems like. So Waal, did you talk to
any pheasant hunters? Yes.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I actually went out with Chester and Ray from my
work last Wednesday and we flushed four on one spot
and Chester did a great job, flushed one. I was
able to get it and brought it right back to
me and sat down like he's supposed to and gave
it nice. And then Ray we hunted a different section
because I had to go to work. He flushed twelve
more and got two with his two German short hair pointers.
(03:51):
So yeah, public hunting is a good option right now.
They're stocking once to twice a week certain areas and
camp mitz. It's just had to get your dog off
the couch.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Otherwise, in news, another article this came out of Outdoor News,
which is a fantastic paper, and talking about the wolf
situation and this, you know, this is something that just
makes my blood.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Pressure grow up.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
That go up to Now, the wolves are kind of
controlling our society, and I guess in a small scale,
they control when you can go outside, where you can
walk your dogs.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
There was nine wolf conflicts and the decorations, harassments and
all that. Fifty seven of those conicts were ready to
livetock nine involved pets, twenty one were hunting dogs. Last year,
there was eighty conflicts reported for the year, but only
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two conflicts were classified as threats.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
To human only.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Some people argue on the one incident, and this is,
you know, it not classified as a threat to a human.
The woman lets her dog out the back door and
the wolf takes the chihuahua away.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
They're like twenty feet from hers. Yeah, she witnessed it all.
Nothing she could do. That's very sad.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
And the other one, the wolf was basically having a
standoff with a dog that was in the kennel. I
feel sorry for the people up north. You know that
this has to happen. It's okay to have them, but
they got to be managed. But as I say, they're
controlling our society now, I mean it's like, I don't know,
they're treated as I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Anyway, I don't want to keep going on about that.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
So well, a bow hunting is kind of kicking in Captain.
With some cooler nights. It gets a deer on their feet,
but we could use a little more frost and stuff
like that, a little bit cooler. But the smaller bucks
are out and playing and people are seeing them on
their feet a lot. But those big boys will get
rolling pretty quick.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Remember lod I Sausage and meat market, lod I Sausage.
Oh it's a long name, and outage kitchen. However, that
all works. They can process your whole deer. You can
take the whole deer over there, and you can take
your scraps over.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And they've got Wally.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I don't know how many awards they've won for Venicon
and meat, but it's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
So yep, well stay tuned, folks. We've got Shawn Timmins
coming up next regarding the Dakota Sunset Resort in Devil's
Lake in North Dakota.
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Hey, welcome back, folks, and thanks for listening. This segment
is brought to you by the Dakota Sunset Resort, located
on the shores of Devil's Lake, North Dakota. If you're
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us next is Sewn Timmins, owner of Dakota Sunset Resort. Morning, Sean,
how are you good?
Speaker 9 (08:54):
Marden?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Good?
Speaker 10 (08:55):
Right?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Seawan?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
You and Linda have some excellent dougs trained to locate
wounded deer. What breed of dogs do you guys?
Speaker 9 (09:04):
Have, but we use Bavarian mountain homes.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And where are they from? Where's the breed originate from?
Speaker 9 (09:13):
The breeds originated in Germany and Poland and the European countries,
and ours are imported from Poland.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And how has your deer tracking been in Wisconsin so far?
Speaker 9 (09:30):
It's a little bit slower than most years, but I
think a lot of this is due to the hot,
dry conditions we've had. I don't think a lot of
guys have been out yet. You know, they're waiting for
that big frost and these leaves to come off of
these trees. So hopefully here it'll pick up. But we've
been taking some tracks and we've had quite a few
recoveries already this year.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
You mentioned that hard frost that kills a lot of
the ticks and mosquitoes and bugs, making it more fun
out there.
Speaker 9 (10:00):
Yeah, it's really tough right now to keep tracks going,
just because it is so dry. We try to hit
them early in the morning or late in the evening.
Those ones in the middle of the days when the
sun's beaten and it's windy and dry, it's just not
conducive to keeping a good track going for the dogs.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Well, Let's say I'm bow hunting and an arrow a
big buck, but I'm not sure which way he went,
or you know, all good a shot. What's the best procedure?
Do we not go in the woods and call you first?
Is that the best thing to do?
Speaker 9 (10:34):
I always tell everybody mark your spot of impact and
get out of there. Actually, the one we had yesterday,
the guy was insistent I was going the wrong way,
and one hundred and seventy.
Speaker 10 (10:47):
Yards later we had his deer.
Speaker 9 (10:49):
But he just in his mind he saw the deer
go left, and the deer actually went straight down the hill.
So yeah, it's best just to back out. Your excitement
gets the best of you sometimes.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Now which dog were you running? And how long did
it take to find the deer?
Speaker 9 (11:05):
I ran Danny, and actually we were done in under
three minutes. It was kind of hilarious. It was a
very quick track. She she made everybody look like a
rock star.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Well, that's such a neat thing to do. And so
many big bucks now are recovered because of these dogs.
And does it take a lot of training to get
your dog to track a wounded deer?
Speaker 9 (11:29):
Yes, for the first year or so.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Other lives.
Speaker 9 (11:32):
Is when we do most of the intense training, and
you know, we're taking and laying tracks, and we use
special shoes that we can put deer hooves in. And
as you well know that the dogs are not working
off of blood, they actually work off of the interdigital
gland and the hoof of that deer. So we have
to train with hooves and everything. It's quite time consuming.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
And how many I know you have another dog named
Jimmy Dean, but how many dogs do you and Linda have?
Speaker 9 (12:04):
We have three tracking dogs and then we have five
German short hair as we use for upland and I'm
actually cross training one of my short hairs right now
my puppies for blood work too.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Oh, very cool for folks listening. Sean and Linda own
the Spring Valley Kennel in Blue Mounts, Wisconsin. And how's
that have been busy over there?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Also?
Speaker 9 (12:28):
Yeah, boarding has been good this year. We've been doing
a lot of training. You know, we do that obedience
training boot camps and we've been doing quite a few
of those this year. Yet keeping everybody's dogs in line.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Super.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Now getting back to Dakota Sunset Resort, your guys, this
resort you built, what a couple of years ago out there.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (12:49):
Yeah, this our third ice season.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
And I know we went out there last year it
was fantastic. Ice fishing season is right around the corner.
Are you getting things ready at your resort?
Speaker 9 (13:02):
Yeah, I'm getting my shots, all new cables in that
on them and getting everything set up to go. I
just got a new trailer for my UTV and yeah,
we're gearing up, getting ready, and we're starting to get
a lot of reservations for December and January already. So
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if people are thinking about they wanting to come out
and try for some nice walleyes and get on some perch,
now is the time to make those reservations to make
sure you get the weekends you want.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
So how many cabins do you have? And there's also
a fish cleaning house also.
Speaker 9 (13:41):
Yeah, we have four three bedroom cabins and they're all
set up identical. They all have car ports so you
can park your UTV in the winter or your vehicle
in in the winter, and in the summer months you
can park your boats underneath there. We got a charging
station and a washed down station in the summer months.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
So yeah, fantastic. Hey, what's your phone number if we
want to reach you to book cabin at the Dakota
Sunset Resort.
Speaker 9 (14:09):
Seven O one three eight one six eight.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
All right, and you got a website also.
Speaker 9 (14:17):
Yeah, Dakota Sunset Resorts dot com.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
All right, hey Sean, thanks for joining us, and good
luck track and all those deer.
Speaker 9 (14:25):
All right, thank you, sir.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I have a great day you two folks. That was
Sean Timmins. Stay tuned, we'll be right back.
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Speaker 4 (16:03):
Hey for all you outdoor folks living in the country
and so on. Clary Building Carps still get your order
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on well, Join me to dan Oulton Outdoors Radio. We're
heading up to the Mighty Mississippi, my favorite body of
water in the world, and we're going to talk with
a fellow named Dan McGuire who guides up on pools two, three, four.
(16:25):
We're going to talk about a little bit of an
unknown sager migration. I'll bet you a lot of people
don't know about.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Good morning Dan, Hey, morning capin carry.
Speaker 10 (16:33):
How are you today?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Good? Well?
Speaker 14 (16:35):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
You know, you and I get to chat a little
bit at shows, and we kind of fish the same
body of water. I would say we're both addicted to
the Mississippi River. But you, you and I were talking
about a sager migration that happens on the Mississippi River.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
So you want to.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Talk a little bit about that, Like the pools you're
on and worthies, how these saga migrate up to system?
Speaker 10 (17:01):
Absolutely absolutely, So the pool that has the major sager
migration is Pool four of the Mississippi River. And Cool
four is a it's a forty four mile stretcher river
that runs from Lock and Dam three at red Wing
down to Lock and Dam four at Alma. And and
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where this bite really kicks off is about an eight
to nine mile stretcher river around the red Wing, Minnesota area,
and it and it is absolute world class sager fishing
and that and so what you have happened here, Terry
is is our water camp start to cool? You get
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a movement of the shad excuse me, from Lake Pepin
and and they move, they move upstream as the water
cools and looking for that warmer water, and the sagers
follow them.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Gotcha, I was I was wondering what, Yeah, what temperature
water temp do you like to look for?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Dan?
Speaker 10 (18:05):
You know that sixty degree mark is kind of when
things start to kick off and when you're gonna see
those shad making that move and those sagas following them
up upstream.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yeah, and you talk about forty four miles of river
that's just between you know, a couple of locking dams
which I've had a chance.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
To fish there.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
So these fish, these saga are basically summering in Lake Pepin.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Am I corrector correct? Yep?
Speaker 10 (18:36):
Yep they do. Pool four has a great shad base
for as a ridge, yep. And so those shad are
down on the lake and the sagas are following them around.
And in the summertime you can get a great trolling
bite and at going for those big sagers down on
the lake following those shad. But you know, at that
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point they're they're moving and following those schools as shad.
This time of year, when those shad push up into
the upper stretches of Pool four, these sagas get concentrated
on certain current areas, you know, current themes, any sort
of any sort of struction that's gonna divert that that
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current or areas where the current is concentrated.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Yeah, well that's kind of what I figured. Pepin had
to be loaded with shad because they they would not
be there otherwise. So I kind of tell people, you know,
when we talk about something like this maybe the first time,
it's not a bad idea to hire a guide to
get familiar with the area. You know, you know, a
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couple of guys split a guide trip. That can save
you and a whole bunch of time. Plus you get
to learn a lot find out with bits and and
so on. I always kind of recommend.
Speaker 10 (19:55):
That, you know, and that's the great recommendation, Terry.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I agree with you.
Speaker 10 (20:01):
I think hiring a hiring a guide, Uh, definitely lessons
that learning curve for you. And yeah, certainly, yeah, absolutely,
and and and can show you the specific techniques that
are working and even key in on some of the
some of the specific spots where these fish are staging,
and and they do they have they have certain points
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where where they stage along the way as they're making
this migration, you know. And and speaking of of of
the guide thing too, this is one time of year
when when I tell folks, you know, if you want
to book a half day, uh, mid October through the
end of November is a great time to even just
book half a day with me. And and that again
(20:46):
because these fish are kind of concentrated in in the
upper stretches of this river. And as you know from
fishing rivers, a lot of times these fish are these
fish are moving and it might take you half a
day just to find those active fish.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Well, and Dan, you know, in the course of a lifetime,
if a guy would just do two three guide trips,
the knowledge you can pick up whether you're fishing professionally
or whatever. So it got just about thirty seconds left, Dan,
I have to ask you, So, what's the big saga
you've seen come out of there in the years that
you've been there.
Speaker 10 (21:22):
The biggest saga I've personally seen his twenty four inches?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's pretty impressive for a saga.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Absolutely, it is.
Speaker 10 (21:32):
That's very impressive and one of the neatest things I saw.
A couple of years ago. A buddy of mine put
twenty one in the boat on back to back calf.
There you go, Yeah, it is so you see it.
We'll go ahead, Jerry, I.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Just we got We're out of time, but I want
to contact info for you Dan.
Speaker 10 (21:54):
Yes, suir, my phone number is seven one five three
zero eight five three seven and call our tech or
I can be reached on Facebook at Big River Angling Adventures.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
All right, have a good day, Dan, Thank you much.
Speaker 10 (22:10):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
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Hey, welcome back, folks, and thanks for listening. You know,
people do a lot of stupid things outdoors, and now.
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On this week's UDA, we're heading out to Utah where
another Bizarro story. Utah men sentenced for what they call
canned mountain lion hunts, and Wally, what they do here
is they either chain up the mountain lion or they
(25:16):
put it in a cage till a person gets there
that wants to shoot it, then they let the thing go.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I guess with dogs, it's.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
It doesn't sound like fair chase, fair hunt to me.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
You can't can't really make this stuff up.
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But that's and the thing about it is is, you know,
it doesn't It doesn't really say if the hunter or
I shouldn't call a hunt necessarily hunter, but person knew
if that's what they were doing or what it says.
This fella admitted that the cougar was held at bay
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(25:54):
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Kennel Field Report.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
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Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yep, hey while I got You know, I'm always kind
of mesmerized by these tagged fish and how far they move.
Here's a pretty cool story. And this was out of
the head to head fishing matches up and win a
bag in that area. Austin Crossman caught this tag six pound,
three ounce walleye in the championship match. His walleye was
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fish tag number twenty nine eighty four. It was shocked
and tagged on April second, twenty fifteen in the Fox River.
Austin caught the fish north of Sturgeon Bay near Horseshoe Point.
That means that the walleye traveled roughly seventy five miles
from where it was tagged, and that was nine years ago.
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According to report, the walleye was estimated at nineteen years old.
So when you catch and kill all these big walleyes,
sometimes wally well most of the time they're anywhere from
twelve to ten to seventeen years old, you know. But yeah,
it's always kind of interesting in these tag fish what
they do well.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Typically, walleyes grow about three inches a year for their
first few years until they get to around twenty inches
from what I understand, then their growth rate slows a
little in length, but they put on girth. And a
big walley in Wisconsin is still a benchmark is ten
pounds thirty inches, but a big saga is more like
four pounds and twenty four inches. So to give our
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listeners an idea, Yeah, sagas are more common to river
systems and reservoirs, damned up rivers and those big walleyes
around big waters, you know, like Lake Erie. It's just
tons of ten pounders.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, yeah, I hear there.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I read something and I didn't follow the whole story,
something about while I on the ear and Lake Erie
that they were a little worried about. Was it the
hatch this year or something. I got to follow up
on that anyway. Always like to keep everyone heads up
on all these bands that's going around in the country.
Everyone wants to ban hunting, ban this ban that kind
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of goes along with the Mountain lion band that's going
to get voted on next week in Colorado, right see
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band an import but uh, just banning the hunt the
amount of damage.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
We follow up and the bill passed.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
The only thing was they are are allowing landowners to
shoot though. This is saying that trap works better. That's
what the feds say. So one more bet there and
it seems to be the thing of the future. Is
anny to do something, join a group. Something I should
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mention too.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
You know a lot of our buddies like John Clensing
and so I've been going out to South Dakota pheasant
hunting and it's been extremely good out there this year,
both North and South Dakota, due to a nice spring
with not a lot of rain, good nesting conditions, and
then they got rain at the right time and got
plenty of insects for the young. So John said, there's
lots of pheasants available and they're having some boom good
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times out in the Dakotas for a pheasants.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, Well I got a fish.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Another fish story being it's still warm out and there
was a giant albino catfish caught in Alton, Illinois on
the Mississippi River. It's a very cool picture. If you
want to do a search for that. It is complete.
Albino the guy did end up releasing it, even though
he probably could have got twelve dollars a pound for
it in the store, and he's hoping that maybe bass
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Pro would put it mounted or put it in one
of their tanks. So it's a very cool picture. People
want to just do a little search, but real rare catfish.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
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