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Speaker 1 (00:12):
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Wall Dog.
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This is Wally the Wall Dog Vampia along with Captain
Terry Friday Morning.
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Captain, Hey, good Saturday morning to everyone in the outdoor world. Well,
I hope uh everyone had a good Christmas and coming
into the new year. I know a lot of people
are happy Wally because they're out ice fishing and there's
a lot of other winter sports you can do which
we can talk about, like snowshoeing and sledding and all
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that good stuff. But I guess if it's going to
be cold, it is good to have some snow loving
these attempts, even though sometimes it's a little bit of
rain mixed in, but it'll help short.
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In the winter.
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So on this week's show, we're going to talk with
Brett Johannon. Brett is the Wisconsin DNR Shooting Range Manager
and if you folks would like to find out where
all the shooting ranges are at, I would just go
to the DNR website if you need a place to shoot.
That would be the easiest thing to do. And then
we're going to catch up on our Wisconsin el curd,
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which I was heavily involved in back when we dropped
him on Wisconsin soil. The new biologist, I call him
new because I used to Poul who was the first biologist.
Josh Spiegel is going to join us and Josh is
the current biologist to manage the Wisconsin elkerd in Clam
(01:53):
Lake and in Jackson County. Get a little update on
the twenty twenty four elk hunt. And now I hear
rumor there could be some call tags available next year,
which will obviously give people a few more chances. Every
week we get to talk about gear though.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
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Through a war? Yes, yes, well, Captain.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
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Speaker 2 (03:26):
Captain. They are some great boots.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, you know, Wally, there's nothing like great boots. I uh,
years ago, I purchased some boots that were, you know,
almost knee highs and I sure needed them for the
elcont this year. We were in fifteen sixteen inches of
snow at times depending on drifts, and it was kind
of nice to have the higher boots. So and it's
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a good walking boot. Sometimes the soils are good for
like standing in one place, but otherwise if you aren't
sick of fishing. We have two more big shows coming
up in southern Wisconsin. The Milwaukee Musky Expo is early February,
and then the Wisconsin Fishing ex Bow, which will be
in Madison, is later on February the twenty second, So
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you can still get your fill of fishing shows. It's
always good to go there and visit Wally.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I think the.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah. The NPA Convention is also coming to town here
shortly in Wisconsin Dell's.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
It would be the first weekend in January, and also
the couple other events. The twenty fifth annual Marshall Lions
Ice Fishery Festival will be held on January seventeenth and
eighteenth at the Fireman's Park heated shelter in Marshall, Wisconsin,
with a ton of great activities planned including yuker tournaments
and some coyote hunting, rabbit hunting, some tagged fish and
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catch a fish tag that could get you a thousand
bucks that'll buy you some gas. And then the next
event here is this Stoughton Conservation Club. They'll be hosting
their sixty second Annual Ice Fishery January twenty fifth, from
midnight to four pm on Lake Kiganza. Headquarters is at
Springers on Lake Kiganza. First place grand prize is a
new Polarists Sportsman's atv. If you want to learn more
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on that, give Roy or John kuamacall over at Kwam's
Marine and Motorsports Wala.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Do you know has anyone ever caught the big tag
fish or caught it later in the year with the
tag in it?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Yeah, and they have never caught it during the event.
But if you catch it during the summer and turn
in the fish, it's got a Floyd tag on it,
you get one hundred bucks from quoms. Really so yep,
they've caught those walleyes later on.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Do you know how many times?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Or just one that I'm aware of, but maybe two.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I should research that a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah, well that's man. Would that be a haul for
a guy that's just out doing some ice visions. Otherwise,
stay with us Foltz, Brett Johanna's going to Wisconsin d
and our shooting range manager and then Josh Spiegel on
Wisconsin Elk.
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Brett is the.
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Statewide public Shooting Range Manager with a Bureau of Recreation
Safety and Outdoor Skills. Brett Johannan, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 7 (08:27):
Good morning Walthy, thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Well, thanks for joining us. Brett, Where are you from
and what do you do for a living?
Speaker 7 (08:33):
Yeah, I was born and raised in West End, Wisconsin
and graduated in the Singer High School. And as you said,
for a living, I work for the State of Wisconsin,
have done so for twenty years. In My newest position
is the statewide Public Shooting Range Manager, and my team
focuses on our R three movement, which is an international
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and movement to retain, recruit, and reactivate licensed hunters and fishermen.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
How many shooting ranges are there in Wisconsin and where
are they located?
Speaker 7 (09:04):
The State of Wisconsin owns eleven public ranges across the state,
but there aren't over four hundred that local governments and
other clubs help operate. We have information available on the
Wisconsin d and Our's website at dn R dot Wi
dot gov, and you can just search for ranges and
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you know, I'd say the vast majority of them have
hours go bye by, and then some days that are closed,
others are open. And that's the case for all of
the ranges I mentioned, whether they're state owned or local clubs.
The state facilities though, who start off in southeastern Wisconsin,
We've got the mc miller Sports Center that's between Walkershaw
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and Whitewater. That is a leased facility, so there's a
private company that runs that. There is a fee to
shoot there, but it's a fantastic facility and we just
put two million dollars into the project down there to
upgrade the ranges so people have a safe, fun experience
down there. The next one in southern Wisconsin is our
Yellowstone Range, and that's southwest Wisconsin near like the Bad
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Villa Mineral Point mount Forbe area. And then we start
moving our way north. We've got another range, our newest
range to the agencies in Columbia County. That's between Madison
and the Portage area. And then then was Cherrick County
just outside of the city of Wotoma, between Portage and
Stevens Point, we've got another range. Then we make it
all the way up to the northern parts by Pesch
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to go north of Green Bay and Marrionette. We've got
a range there as well, with very limited hours right
now unfortunately. And then another range in Cornell just north
of Chippla Falls. And then we've got a cluster of
a few ranges in the North Woods. Kywood Range is
by the Woodruff Monoco area, Boulder Junction Range is in
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the Boulder Junction area. We've got a north Woods Wetland
Wildlife Range near Mercer and then Snake Track which is
west of Hurley, So those are our eleven well, I'm sorry,
and Hate Creek is up by Park Falls, so we've
got them all around the state of driving between.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
You mentioned earlier the Columbia County Shooting Range last year
and my buddy John Clensing and I cited in there
and it was great, very good experience and very.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Safe on top of it. What a nice property there.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
Yeah, obviously we had a demand for some range need
there and we constructed one very fairly similar to the
one that's down at Yellowstone, so you have a similar
experience at each They're kind of cookie cutter of each other,
but they do get busy. Obviously. They're all fairly close
to some larger metropolitan areas, so if you can try
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to come throughout the year, all of our ranges generally
operate every day of the year. We do have some
closed days for maintenance and law enforcement shooting, and then
we've also got a couple of clubs that operate and
they you know, close the winter just because of low
use and difficulty of those volunteers to maintain the facility
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during heavy snow conditions.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
So well, safety is always first, and I believe that's
something we should talk about a lot up to shooting range.
You got to be polite and safe at the ranges
for sure.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
You know, railing safety is number one. We want people
to have fun, but a part of that is being safe.
And while Hunter Education is not required to participate in
recreational shooting, I'd still encourage everyone to take it because
it teaches the very basics of firearm safety. And then
I'd certainly support additional training from certified prior arms instructors.
(12:38):
But the simplest way to explain safety on the range
is you know the standard tab K rule that we
share through Hunter Education, and it's kind of our universal
message to the firearm owners, and that's to treat every
firearm as if it were loaded. The biggest and most
important one in my mind, is always keep the muzzle
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pointed in a safe direction, and then be sure of
your target, what's in front of and beyond it, and
keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire.
So if you apply those four rules all the time,
when you're around or handling a firearm, you'll be in
pretty good shape. But we do have specific range rules.
Those are found in our forty five point ninety five
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so those are state state laws that are enforceable by
our local wardens will help us out. And basically the
number one there is not handling a loaded firearm when
someone's down range and only shooting during our post hours.
But then there's range etiquette.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
So thank you very much for joining us. Brett six minutes.
It goes fast, but we'll get you on the show again.
Thank you for all your expert advice there.
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heavily involved back in the initial reintroduction, a lot of
fantastic memories, so I wanted to kind of get up
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to date. It's been a while. We just wrapped up
to twenty twenty four. El cut So joining me today
on Ultimate Outdoors Radio Josh Spiegel and Josh is the
wildlife biologist up in Sawyer County. Good morning, Josh, poor Jerry,
thanks for having me on. You bet we appreciate that. Well, Josh,
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let's just jump back quick back into nineteen ninety five.
The elk hit the ground up in Clam Lake and
then all of a sudden they hit the ground in
Black River Falls not too long ago. So things are
going well.
Speaker 10 (16:14):
Yeah, yeah, things are going real well. We got elk
in two different parts of the state here. You know,
there's some stuff that was happening up here that we
identified the need to get a few more elk on
the landscape, and luckily we're able to do that here
in the recent past.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, and you know, the key to this, and I
sat through quite a few meetings back in the day
up there because I was representing the Elk Foundation. But
some really key groups involved. That makes these things happen.
So do you want to mention some of the agencies
and groups.
Speaker 10 (16:53):
Josh, yeah, yeah, So I'll lay it out real quick.
So in twenty twelve, the Department identified a need to
both improve genetics in the Clam Lake herd and then
the need or want to establish the Black River Herd.
So some major partners involved after that twenty twelve plan Amendment,
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folks like Wisconsin dn R, Rocky Mountain, Elk Foundation, US
four Service County Forest Partners in Wisconsin. There's a bunch
of them there. Sawyer Price across Jackson County, Great Lakes,
Indian Fish and Wildlife Commission, ho Chunk Nation, University of
Wisconsin System both at Madison and Stevens Point, Jackson County
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Wildlife Fund. But ultimately the people of Wisconsin, the people
of Wisconsin really stood tall and said we want to
bring out back, we want to reintroduce Elk, and we
want to see him on Wisconsin's landscape.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah, and I want to mention there was a lot
of private donations. We were heavily involved with that through
the Elk Foundation, raising funds so a lot of good
private donations. So how is the population overall in the state, Josh,
it's it's doing well.
Speaker 10 (18:04):
We've got probably right now somewhere between four hundred and
seventy five and five hundred elk on the ground. Our
post calving season estimate this year would have been about
five fifty state wide, and we expect some losses. You know,
we just had our hunting season, so some some animal
take there. So we're probably somewhere around four seventy five
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to five hundred elk for this year.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
That's fantastic. Yeah, And I do like the way, you know,
Kentucky kind of flooded the state with elk back when
right after we reintroduced. I kind of like how Wisconsin
has done it and managed it as more of a
study and so on. I think that was a neat
way to go. So, Josh, we should mention too a
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lot of other It's not just Wisconsin. There's a lot
of other elk reintroductions that happened east of the Mississippi.
You want to touch on that.
Speaker 10 (18:58):
Yeah, No, that was a lot of people don't know,
but actually Wisconsin attempted in elk reintroduction back in the
early nineteen hundreds, there was a whole pile of state
that once had ELK that we're using ELK from the
greater Yellowstone area to do ELK reintroductions. And some of
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those that currently have their ELK are Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania,
et cetera. And there were places states like Alabama that
we're getting ELK way back then, and then a handful
of other states attempted doing more recent introduction efforts as well,
so like Kentucky being the big one releasing over fifteen
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hundred ELK like you had stated, and then a bunch
of others in there too, Tennessee, Virginia, Missouri, Arkansas, North Carolina,
West Virginia, and even Ontario, Canada has done ELK reintroduction.
So it's really cool to be kind of part of
that group. And we actually have a working group that
gets together once every two years where all of us
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ELK managers in those eastern ukstates get together and talk
ELK management.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Great, got about a minute left, Josh, Can you touch
on the success of the twenty twenty four on We're
All Hunting?
Speaker 8 (20:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Successful?
Speaker 10 (20:14):
Yeah, So this was this was the first year that
the Black River Falls heard had the opportunity to have
an elk harvest ilegal elk harvest. Four hunters were drawn
down there, and ironically all four hunters filled their tags
on the same day, the third third day of the season,
the first Monday. All four elk hunters harvested their elk
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to close that season in one day, which is really
cool up there. Quickly, Yeah, up here in the north,
we've had two of the four tags built so far.
There is an additional nine day segment of the season
that that starts up here in December, but the early
portion clerks closed yesterday, so two of four hunters filled
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to go.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Josh, thanks so much for the update. I know six
minutes is not enough when you're talking about this, but
we really appreciate. We'll have you back on again. That
was Josh Spiegel with Wisconsin DNI's a biologist for Sawyer County. Josh,
have a good fall, a good holiday, and thanks very much.
Speaker 10 (21:13):
Thank you very much. Kerry, have a great day you too.
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Speaker 3 (24:01):
Bizarro story where a Montana man basically admitted that there
was a bear mauling in his campground of a fella. Well,
the story goes as this, he was basically in Montana camping,
but when he pulled into it supposedly his campsite, he
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found it was occupied by another fella. Well, the fella
invited him to have a beer and was very friendly
with him and everything else. But for some unknown reason,
the guy decided to hit this camper with a piece
of woods, stabbed him in the neck with a screwdriver,
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and hit him with an axe.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
No Jesus, that's not very friendly.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, he invited the wrong guy to the campsite, but
the good thing was is he offered him a beer.
And when the cops were investigating that, Wow, I don't
think a bear would stab a guy with a screwdriver,
they basically found DNA on the beer can. So by
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offering that guy a beer, that's how he got caught.
But once again, Wally, this is just these bizarre stories
that are happening out in remote areas and you know,
parks and so on. There's just there's just some strange
things going on out there. And my suggestion is carry
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a can a good bear spray and knock the guy
down with that, because it's almost better than a weapon.
But you know, you got you gotta protect yourselves these days,
so kind of a sad story. What else you got, Wally.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Well, we've got some good ice fishing going on, Captain.
I've got a few reports from Lake Wisconsin panfisher biting
in the back base at this time. There's about five
to six inches of ice. Lake Redstone. They're catching crappies.
Lake Delton has been good for crappie and bluegill. Mirror
Lake has been good for panfish and northern pike. Lake
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Monona is producing some nice bluegills, especially in Manona Bay
and in the triangles. Captain, I'm amazed at how many
fish get caught there every year and they don't seem
to fish it out.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I just find that amazing.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Well, you know, there that's a huge area to draw from,
so I can see why it re stocks. But if
you heard ice thickness around wall, you know, with this
with this rain and drizzle and stuff, I wonder how
it will affect ice. But I haven't talked to people
because I've been I was out at El Cotton so well.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Generally we have about five to six inches of ice
in our area, but if you get up north, they've
got eight to ten inches of ice.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Rain is always a concern.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
I mean, you have to check your ice conditions every day.
Talk to the local people before you go out, talk
to folks that just got off the ice. Bring all
your safety gear. But when we get down to zero
degrees at night, that will make approximately one inch of
good solid ice. And of course when it starts getting forty,
you start losing some ice.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
And of course rain is not a good idea on ice.
So really be.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Careful out there, especially sometimes you'll have snow covered ice
thinking it's real safe. But take your time, fish with
a buddy, bring your cell phone, and be careful camp
and then you can have a great day.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Absolutely well. I need to mention for you folks that
are Western hunters, you know right around the corner Arizona
next well, yeah, January here is going to be opening
up its applications for next year's hunts. And the rest
of the states will follow. So that's something you need
to think about. There's a lot of variables happening. I
(27:46):
see Colorado now closed. It's over the counter license for archery.
They're trying to limit and reduce this hunter pressure. I
guess that could be a good or bad thing. I
don't know. It's going to eliminate a lot of non
resident hunting money, but the residents are happy about that.
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But you know, you're going to have to do the footwork,
talk to some biologists, YadA, YadA, YadA, and it'll just
helped make your hunt much more successful.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Well, it's exciting that the Wisconsin elkhurd is coming along
so well, especially the Jackson County herd, which is the
southern herd. It seems like they have better cover there
and they're reproducing and that's pretty exciting.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Captain.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Yeah, and you know a lot of people, Wally, they
complain because it's taxpayer money. But you know, I sat
on the original fundraising committee and that half initial half
million dollars was all private funding. The governor put the
first fifty thousand in. When that got kicked off, we
had a celebration of it at the governor's mansion, and
(28:52):
after that and all these banquets that are happening in
the state, a percentage of that money goes towards the
towards the ALKA Wisconsin. So far, have been a good program,
and you're always gonna have some negative comments, but hey,
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This is Wally the Wall Dog Vampia along with Captain
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Captain, Hey, good Saturday morning to everyone in the outdoor world. Well,
I hope uh everyone had a good Christmas and coming
into the new year. I know a lot of people
are happy Wally because they're out ice fishing and there's
a lot of other winter sports you can do which
we can talk about, like snowshoeing and sledding and all
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that good stuff. But I guess if it's going to
be cold, it is good to have some snow loving
these attempts, even though sometimes it's a little bit of
rain mixed in, but it'll help short.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
In the winter.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
So on this week's show, we're going to talk with
Brett Johannon. Brett is the Wisconsin DNR Shooting Range Manager
and if you folks would like to find out where
all the shooting ranges are at, I would just go
to the DNR website if you need a place to shoot.
That would be the easiest thing to do. And then
we're going to catch up on our Wisconsin el curd,
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which I was heavily involved in back when we dropped
him on Wisconsin soil. The new biologist, I call him
new because I used to Poul who was the first biologist.
Josh Spiegel is going to join us and Josh is
the current biologist to manage the Wisconsin elkerd in Clam
(01:53):
Lake and in Jackson County. Get a little update on
the twenty twenty four elk hunt. And now I hear
rumor there could be some call tags available next year,
which will obviously give people a few more chances. Every
week we get to talk about gear though.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Now which time for the Ultimate gear Heads. This week's
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Hey, folks, you don't see that Middleton forward sticker? You
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went through I don't know what, so I went.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Through a war? Yes, yes, well, Captain.
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Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, you know, Wally, there's nothing like great boots. I uh,
years ago, I purchased some boots that were, you know,
almost knee highs and I sure needed them for the
elcont this year. We were in fifteen sixteen inches of
snow at times depending on drifts, and it was kind
of nice to have the higher boots. So and it's
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a good walking boot. Sometimes the soils are good for
like standing in one place, but otherwise if you aren't
sick of fishing. We have two more big shows coming
up in southern Wisconsin. The Milwaukee Musky Expo is early February,
and then the Wisconsin Fishing ex Bow, which will be
in Madison, is later on February the twenty second, So
(04:14):
you can still get your fill of fishing shows. It's
always good to go there and visit Wally.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I think the.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah. The NPA Convention is also coming to town here
shortly in Wisconsin Dell's.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
It would be the first weekend in January, and also
the couple other events. The twenty fifth annual Marshall Lions
Ice Fishery Festival will be held on January seventeenth and
eighteenth at the Fireman's Park heated shelter in Marshall, Wisconsin,
with a ton of great activities planned including yuker tournaments
and some coyote hunting, rabbit hunting, some tagged fish and
(04:53):
catch a fish tag that could get you a thousand
bucks that'll buy you some gas. And then the next
event here is this Stoughton Conservation Club. They'll be hosting
their sixty second Annual Ice Fishery January twenty fifth, from
midnight to four pm on Lake Kiganza. Headquarters is at
Springers on Lake Kiganza. First place grand prize is a
new Polarists Sportsman's atv. If you want to learn more
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on that, give Roy or John kuamacall over at Kwam's
Marine and Motorsports Wala.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Do you know has anyone ever caught the big tag
fish or caught it later in the year with the
tag in it?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Yeah, and they have never caught it during the event.
But if you catch it during the summer and turn
in the fish, it's got a Floyd tag on it,
you get one hundred bucks from quoms. Really so yep,
they've caught those walleyes later on.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Do you know how many times?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Or just one that I'm aware of, but maybe two.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I should research that a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah, well that's man. Would that be a haul for
a guy that's just out doing some ice visions. Otherwise,
stay with us Foltz, Brett Johanna's going to Wisconsin d
and our shooting range manager and then Josh Spiegel on
Wisconsin Elk.
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Safety and Outdoor Skills. Brett Johannan, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 7 (08:27):
Good morning Walthy, thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Well, thanks for joining us. Brett, Where are you from
and what do you do for a living?
Speaker 7 (08:33):
Yeah, I was born and raised in West End, Wisconsin
and graduated in the Singer High School. And as you said,
for a living, I work for the State of Wisconsin,
have done so for twenty years. In My newest position
is the statewide Public Shooting Range Manager, and my team
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and movement to retain, recruit, and reactivate licensed hunters and fishermen.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
How many shooting ranges are there in Wisconsin and where
are they located?
Speaker 7 (09:04):
The State of Wisconsin owns eleven public ranges across the state,
but there aren't over four hundred that local governments and
other clubs help operate. We have information available on the
Wisconsin d and Our's website at dn R dot Wi
dot gov, and you can just search for ranges and
(09:24):
you know, I'd say the vast majority of them have
hours go bye by, and then some days that are closed,
others are open. And that's the case for all of
the ranges I mentioned, whether they're state owned or local clubs.
The state facilities though, who start off in southeastern Wisconsin,
We've got the mc miller Sports Center that's between Walkershaw
(09:48):
and Whitewater. That is a leased facility, so there's a
private company that runs that. There is a fee to
shoot there, but it's a fantastic facility and we just
put two million dollars into the project down there to
upgrade the ranges so people have a safe, fun experience
down there. The next one in southern Wisconsin is our
Yellowstone Range, and that's southwest Wisconsin near like the Bad
(10:11):
Villa Mineral Point mount Forbe area. And then we start
moving our way north. We've got another range, our newest
range to the agencies in Columbia County. That's between Madison
and the Portage area. And then then was Cherrick County
just outside of the city of Wotoma, between Portage and
Stevens Point, we've got another range. Then we make it
all the way up to the northern parts by Pesch
(10:34):
to go north of Green Bay and Marrionette. We've got
a range there as well, with very limited hours right
now unfortunately. And then another range in Cornell just north
of Chippla Falls. And then we've got a cluster of
a few ranges in the North Woods. Kywood Range is
by the Woodruff Monoco area, Boulder Junction Range is in
(10:54):
the Boulder Junction area. We've got a north Woods Wetland
Wildlife Range near Mercer and then Snake Track which is
west of Hurley, So those are our eleven well, I'm sorry,
and Hate Creek is up by Park Falls, so we've
got them all around the state of driving between.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
You mentioned earlier the Columbia County Shooting Range last year
and my buddy John Clensing and I cited in there
and it was great, very good experience and very.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Safe on top of it. What a nice property there.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
Yeah, obviously we had a demand for some range need
there and we constructed one very fairly similar to the
one that's down at Yellowstone, so you have a similar
experience at each They're kind of cookie cutter of each other,
but they do get busy. Obviously. They're all fairly close
to some larger metropolitan areas, so if you can try
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to come throughout the year, all of our ranges generally
operate every day of the year. We do have some
closed days for maintenance and law enforcement shooting, and then
we've also got a couple of clubs that operate and
they you know, close the winter just because of low
use and difficulty of those volunteers to maintain the facility
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during heavy snow conditions.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
So well, safety is always first, and I believe that's
something we should talk about a lot up to shooting range.
You got to be polite and safe at the ranges
for sure.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
You know, railing safety is number one. We want people
to have fun, but a part of that is being safe.
And while Hunter Education is not required to participate in
recreational shooting, I'd still encourage everyone to take it because
it teaches the very basics of firearm safety. And then
I'd certainly support additional training from certified prior arms instructors.
(12:38):
But the simplest way to explain safety on the range
is you know the standard tab K rule that we
share through Hunter Education, and it's kind of our universal
message to the firearm owners, and that's to treat every
firearm as if it were loaded. The biggest and most
important one in my mind, is always keep the muzzle
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pointed in a safe direction, and then be sure of
your target, what's in front of and beyond it, and
keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire.
So if you apply those four rules all the time,
when you're around or handling a firearm, you'll be in
pretty good shape. But we do have specific range rules.
Those are found in our forty five point ninety five
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so those are state state laws that are enforceable by
our local wardens will help us out. And basically the
number one there is not handling a loaded firearm when
someone's down range and only shooting during our post hours.
But then there's range etiquette.
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So thank you very much for joining us. Brett six minutes.
It goes fast, but we'll get you on the show again.
Thank you for all your expert advice there.
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Hey for you folks still out in the woods, remember
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heavily involved back in the initial reintroduction, a lot of
fantastic memories, so I wanted to kind of get up
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to date. It's been a while. We just wrapped up
to twenty twenty four. El cut So joining me today
on Ultimate Outdoors Radio Josh Spiegel and Josh is the
wildlife biologist up in Sawyer County. Good morning, Josh, poor Jerry,
thanks for having me on. You bet we appreciate that. Well, Josh,
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let's just jump back quick back into nineteen ninety five.
The elk hit the ground up in Clam Lake and
then all of a sudden they hit the ground in
Black River Falls not too long ago. So things are
going well.
Speaker 10 (16:14):
Yeah, yeah, things are going real well. We got elk
in two different parts of the state here. You know,
there's some stuff that was happening up here that we
identified the need to get a few more elk on
the landscape, and luckily we're able to do that here
in the recent past.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, and you know, the key to this, and I
sat through quite a few meetings back in the day
up there because I was representing the Elk Foundation. But
some really key groups involved. That makes these things happen.
So do you want to mention some of the agencies
and groups.
Speaker 10 (16:53):
Josh, yeah, yeah, So I'll lay it out real quick.
So in twenty twelve, the Department identified a need to
both improve genetics in the Clam Lake herd and then
the need or want to establish the Black River Herd.
So some major partners involved after that twenty twelve plan Amendment,
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folks like Wisconsin dn R, Rocky Mountain, Elk Foundation, US
four Service County Forest Partners in Wisconsin. There's a bunch
of them there. Sawyer Price across Jackson County, Great Lakes,
Indian Fish and Wildlife Commission, ho Chunk Nation, University of
Wisconsin System both at Madison and Stevens Point, Jackson County
(17:36):
Wildlife Fund. But ultimately the people of Wisconsin, the people
of Wisconsin really stood tall and said we want to
bring out back, we want to reintroduce Elk, and we
want to see him on Wisconsin's landscape.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah, and I want to mention there was a lot
of private donations. We were heavily involved with that through
the Elk Foundation, raising funds so a lot of good
private donations. So how is the population overall in the state, Josh,
it's it's doing well.
Speaker 10 (18:04):
We've got probably right now somewhere between four hundred and
seventy five and five hundred elk on the ground. Our
post calving season estimate this year would have been about
five fifty state wide, and we expect some losses. You know,
we just had our hunting season, so some some animal
take there. So we're probably somewhere around four seventy five
(18:24):
to five hundred elk for this year.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
That's fantastic. Yeah, And I do like the way, you know,
Kentucky kind of flooded the state with elk back when
right after we reintroduced. I kind of like how Wisconsin
has done it and managed it as more of a
study and so on. I think that was a neat
way to go. So, Josh, we should mention too a
(18:49):
lot of other It's not just Wisconsin. There's a lot
of other elk reintroductions that happened east of the Mississippi.
You want to touch on that.
Speaker 10 (18:58):
Yeah, No, that was a lot of people don't know,
but actually Wisconsin attempted in elk reintroduction back in the
early nineteen hundreds, there was a whole pile of state
that once had ELK that we're using ELK from the
greater Yellowstone area to do ELK reintroductions. And some of
(19:19):
those that currently have their ELK are Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania,
et cetera. And there were places states like Alabama that
we're getting ELK way back then, and then a handful
of other states attempted doing more recent introduction efforts as well,
so like Kentucky being the big one releasing over fifteen
(19:40):
hundred ELK like you had stated, and then a bunch
of others in there too, Tennessee, Virginia, Missouri, Arkansas, North Carolina,
West Virginia, and even Ontario, Canada has done ELK reintroduction.
So it's really cool to be kind of part of
that group. And we actually have a working group that
gets together once every two years where all of us
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ELK managers in those eastern ukstates get together and talk
ELK management.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Great, got about a minute left, Josh, Can you touch
on the success of the twenty twenty four on We're
All Hunting?
Speaker 8 (20:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Successful?
Speaker 10 (20:14):
Yeah, So this was this was the first year that
the Black River Falls heard had the opportunity to have
an elk harvest ilegal elk harvest. Four hunters were drawn
down there, and ironically all four hunters filled their tags
on the same day, the third third day of the season,
the first Monday. All four elk hunters harvested their elk
(20:35):
to close that season in one day, which is really
cool up there. Quickly, Yeah, up here in the north,
we've had two of the four tags built so far.
There is an additional nine day segment of the season
that that starts up here in December, but the early
portion clerks closed yesterday, so two of four hunters filled
(20:55):
to go.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Josh, thanks so much for the update. I know six
minutes is not enough when you're talking about this, but
we really appreciate. We'll have you back on again. That
was Josh Spiegel with Wisconsin DNI's a biologist for Sawyer County. Josh,
have a good fall, a good holiday, and thanks very much.
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was a bear mauling in his campground of a fella. Well,
the story goes as this, he was basically in Montana camping,
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found it was occupied by another fella. Well, the fella
invited him to have a beer and was very friendly
with him and everything else. But for some unknown reason,
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No Jesus, that's not very friendly.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, he invited the wrong guy to the campsite, but
the good thing was is he offered him a beer.
And when the cops were investigating that, Wow, I don't
think a bear would stab a guy with a screwdriver,
they basically found DNA on the beer can. So by
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offering that guy a beer, that's how he got caught.
But once again, Wally, this is just these bizarre stories
that are happening out in remote areas and you know,
parks and so on. There's just there's just some strange
things going on out there. And my suggestion is carry
(25:32):
a can a good bear spray and knock the guy
down with that, because it's almost better than a weapon.
But you know, you got you gotta protect yourselves these days,
so kind of a sad story. What else you got, Wally.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Well, we've got some good ice fishing going on, Captain.
I've got a few reports from Lake Wisconsin panfisher biting
in the back base at this time. There's about five
to six inches of ice. Lake Redstone. They're catching crappies.
Lake Delton has been good for crappie and bluegill. Mirror
Lake has been good for panfish and northern pike. Lake
(26:05):
Monona is producing some nice bluegills, especially in Manona Bay
and in the triangles. Captain, I'm amazed at how many
fish get caught there every year and they don't seem
to fish it out.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I just find that amazing.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Well, you know, there that's a huge area to draw from,
so I can see why it re stocks. But if
you heard ice thickness around wall, you know, with this
with this rain and drizzle and stuff, I wonder how
it will affect ice. But I haven't talked to people
because I've been I was out at El Cotton so well.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Generally we have about five to six inches of ice
in our area, but if you get up north, they've
got eight to ten inches of ice.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Rain is always a concern.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
I mean, you have to check your ice conditions every day.
Talk to the local people before you go out, talk
to folks that just got off the ice. Bring all
your safety gear. But when we get down to zero
degrees at night, that will make approximately one inch of
good solid ice. And of course when it starts getting forty,
you start losing some ice.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
And of course rain is not a good idea on ice.
So really be.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Careful out there, especially sometimes you'll have snow covered ice
thinking it's real safe. But take your time, fish with
a buddy, bring your cell phone, and be careful camp
and then you can have a great day.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Absolutely well. I need to mention for you folks that
are Western hunters, you know right around the corner Arizona
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up its applications for next year's hunts. And the rest
of the states will follow. So that's something you need
to think about. There's a lot of variables happening. I
(27:46):
see Colorado now closed. It's over the counter license for archery.
They're trying to limit and reduce this hunter pressure. I
guess that could be a good or bad thing. I
don't know. It's going to eliminate a lot of non
resident hunting money, but the residents are happy about that.
(28:07):
But you know, you're going to have to do the footwork,
talk to some biologists, YadA, YadA, YadA, and it'll just
helped make your hunt much more successful.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Well, it's exciting that the Wisconsin elkhurd is coming along
so well, especially the Jackson County herd, which is the
southern herd. It seems like they have better cover there
and they're reproducing and that's pretty exciting.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Captain.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Yeah, and you know a lot of people, Wally, they
complain because it's taxpayer money. But you know, I sat
on the original fundraising committee and that half initial half
million dollars was all private funding. The governor put the
first fifty thousand in. When that got kicked off, we
had a celebration of it at the governor's mansion, and
(28:52):
after that and all these banquets that are happening in
the state, a percentage of that money goes towards the
towards the ALKA Wisconsin. So far, have been a good program,
and you're always gonna have some negative comments, but hey,
we'd like to thank you for spending another Saturday morning
with the ultimate outdoors radio crew.
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