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February 13, 2025 • 30 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
You're on board with Ultimate Outdoors Radio on a quest
to bring the outdoors to.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
You once again.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Our resident guides to the outdoors the Captain and the
Wall Dog.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Good Saturday morning. This is Wally the Wall Dog Bamfie
along with Captain Perry Fry.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Good morning, Captain, Hey, good morning everyone in the outdoor world. Well,
another Saturday morning, and you know, I guess if you're
out there fishing, be safe. There are so many vehicles
going in all over the place. It's crazy. I did
hear there was a death on Winnebago and that was
social media posts, but I know two people went in

(00:58):
and one sounds like he didn't make it. But a
lot of trucks going in. So just because people say
there's twenty inches of ice, you know, be careful out there.
But we're talking all about fishing once again with these
two big fishing shows coming up, the Milwaukee Musky Expo
coming up and then the Wisconsin Fishing Expo coming up.
Dan Durban, owner co owner of the Wisconsin Fishing ex Bow,

(01:20):
will be our or no Lee Taushan Wally. I had
to get Lee in there. Lee Taushan from Today's Angler
will be at the Milwaukee Musky Expo Show. He's our
first guest, following him as Dan Durban, the Wisconsin Fishing
Expo co owner. And here's a little tease on our
four segment. People out in the jungle are going to

(01:40):
be depressed when Wally and I talk about this. But
it's called hanging up the headset. So you guys figure
that out and we will roll into the gearhead product.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Now, which time for the Ultimate gear Heads. This week's
Gearhead segment, it's Falloid five Middleton four Middleton. Before you
start spending all your money on outdoor gear, have the
Ultimate Gearheads check it out. They will set you straight.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Hey, folks, you don't see that Middleton Ford sticker, You've
made too much. Wally and I had a chance to
visit with Chuck at Middleton Ford. Boy, he is stacked
up with some pretty cool sports cars, a lot of trucks.
I'll head on over there. They are ready to wheel undeal.
Wally yep.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
This week's really cool piece of gear is a pair
of warm boots. It's the Irish Setter Model thirty eight
ninety seven twelve inch ice Trek waterproof boots. These boots
utilize an ultra dry waterproof membrane and sixteen hundred grams
of perma loft insulation to keep your feet dry and
warm in cold weather. The sol of this boot includes
a comfortable thermoplastic shank which provides more stable footing and

(02:46):
helps support feed and calfs. These boots also incorporate built
in ice grippers on the tread. The irishutter ice track
waterproof boots retail for around two hundred and fifty dollars
and they lace up really in a unique way. Captain easy,
you get on and off with cold hands.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Hey.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
In the last couple of days, I had a chance
to sit in on a zoom meeting and this is
pretty interesting and you guys need to I didn't get
the check where you could find this. I'm guessing it's
on the d n R website, but basically it was
a total zoom meeting about Green Bay. They're trawling numbers,
shocking numbers, Guide reported fish catch numbers, commercial fishing numbers.

(03:28):
It's really fascinating, but I'm just going to hit on
a couple of these. But they figure that this year
the guides registered well reported up to forty five hundred
perch harvested. They figured there's one point two million adult
perch in Green Bay, most of them two to three

(03:49):
years old, some five to six years old. They actually
did trawlling locations seventy five different trawling locations on the
Walleye and stuff. Commercial fishermen have reported their daily catches. Also,
they are capped. Commercial fishermen are capped at one hundred
thousand pounds for whitefish. They also put out pit tags

(04:13):
on muskies in Green Bay. So far, twenty seven fish
have been caught with the pit tags, and the neat
thing is guides can now carry pit tag readers to
read what those pit tags, where those fish have been
and so on. The last thing is that in the
future the dn IR is looking at possible spring whileye

(04:34):
changes in rags because of pressure, especially on these river systems,
so that might be coming. But I would there's a
ton of information. It's really fascinating. Go check that out, guys.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Camp I've got a couple events coming up. The fourth
Annual Moon Valley Fishery will be held Saturday, February fifteenth
at h is placed from seven am to three pm
on Lake Wisconsin, and also the twenty second annual Intermediate
and Advanced Muskie School be held at the Wanaque High
School Saturday, March twenty second, twenty twenty five. And might

(05:07):
as well throw this in the seventh annual mark Uzeki's
Casting for Kids will be held Saturday, May seventeenth at
the Alliant Energy Center.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Captain Hey, quick, quick story here before we get out
of here. Firearm found in Arizona determined to be four
hundred and eighty years old. The firearm discovered in Arizona
maybe the oldest ever found in the lower forty eight.
They're still obviously doing some research on this, but the

(05:36):
gun was forty two inches long. Wait about oh, weigh
about forty pounds on what they were blasting with this,
But pretty cool story and wall if you remember, we
talked about one that was found in Nevada too and
the rifle leaning against the tree found by one of
the park workers there. I actually stopped by and saw
that one year. We were all cunning in Nevada and

(05:58):
they have it in their museums. A pretty cool stories
finding all those little treasures out there.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Fantastic. We'll stay joined. Lead Plcan will be coming up
in our next segment.

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Speaker 7 (07:43):
Let's Fish explore over three hundred and fifty booths, over
twenty seminars and a dozen boat dealers at the Wisconsin
Fishing x BO February twenty first to the twenty third
at the Alliant Energy Center, Madison. Deals from legendary manufacturers
and unique vendors not found in stores. Kids' activities include
the Trout Pondcasting Competition's Bo Fishing Kids Bingo at free
giveaways every day wifishingexpot dot com for details. Sponsored by

(08:07):
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Speaker 3 (08:24):
Hey, welcome back, folks, and thanks for listening. This segment
is brought to you by the Wilderness Fishing Game Store
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the cool outdoor gear, clothing and supplies for the sportsmen
or sportswomen in your camp. Joining us next is a
terrific angler. As a muskie guide, Lee guided many anglers
to their fish of a lifetime with many catching trophy

(08:46):
muskies over that magic fifty inch benchmark. Lee co owns
a fantastic web based phishing show on YouTube called Today's Angler.
Lee also owns and operates a custom musculure company called
Lee Lures. Lee Tolkien, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 9 (09:01):
Good morning, Wally, thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Welcome Lee. You have a great YouTube channel. I love
watching your videos. You do some great filming. What's it
called and how many years you've been doing that?

Speaker 9 (09:12):
It's called Today's Angler and I I was trying to
figure it out the other day. I believe it's seven years.
We're coming up on here.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
How many films have you made in seven years?

Speaker 9 (09:23):
We've got over eight hundred videos out there on the channel.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Well, that is a lot of work. And you use
multiple cameras and have underwater stuff, and that's what I
like releasing big muskies and stuff.

Speaker 9 (09:34):
Well, the problems monkies, they don't give you much chance
to film anything, so we thought it would be a
good idea to run a bunch of GoPros at the
same time, so we could capture different angles of a catch,
and especially if a camera ends up failing, we've got
backup shots as well. So yeah, that's definitely definitely made

(09:56):
it interesting trying to capture a musky on camera.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Well, as you guys do a fantastic job. Also, you
own a custom musky lure company musky Baits. What's the
name of it? Tell us about that.

Speaker 9 (10:09):
Lee Lures Custom Baits. Been doing it since basically nineteen
ninety nine, just out of my garage here, and I
make smaller numbers of kind of higher and more custom
type musket musky baits that utilize cedar and white pine,

(10:30):
so kind of more old school lure making techniques with
more refined paint schemes and finishes and actions and such.
So it's been it's been a heck of a journey.
But I love waking up every day and coming out
to the shop. So in between fishing trips, you know,

(10:51):
most of my time has spent building baits in the shop.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Well, your paint jobs are amazing. You're definitely a master
of that. And I have had good luck with one
of your baits called the boiler Maker buck tal. I
got two sizes. I heard there's a new size coming out,
is that right?

Speaker 9 (11:06):
Yeah, that's probably probably my best selling bait. The fact
that it's a bucktail everybody can use it easily. But yeah,
the boiler Maker is based on half buck tail and
half wood bodied bait, which allows it very unique action
where you can run high in the water column at

(11:27):
a lot slower speed if desired, and to be able
to not have that bait sink down in the weeds
right away is definitely a new twist on a buck tail.
But the new size, Yeah, the mid sized boiler Maker
in the new six to nine blade combination was our
number one bait of the year this past season, and

(11:51):
looking forward to getting those in more people's hands this
coming season. And here's the results.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
That's gonna be awesome bait. I'll definitely be getting one
of those. You also have a really unique buck tail
were called a ninja. Talk about that a little bit.
What does that do?

Speaker 9 (12:06):
Well, it's definitely a unique blade pattern, where most bucktails
have a clevice where the blade revolves around the wire shaft,
where this one is basically a pinwheel style blade, which
it's basically like a ninja throwing star shaped metal blade

(12:28):
that has a hole through the center and it revolves
around the wire shaft like a pinwheel, so there's no
clevice on it and definitely has a very unique sound vibration,
you know, something they haven't felt before. And the results
have been pretty awesome on it. We've caught quite a

(12:48):
few twenty five pound plus fish on it. So I've
made it for a couple of seasons now and it's
definitely caught on. But you know, there's always room to
expand more.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
So you have someone i'd like to buy some of
your custom baits, can they order from your website and
can you ship them out to them?

Speaker 9 (13:10):
Absolutely? Yeah, we actually do worldwide shipping and uh at
leelures dot com. And if you get to the site,
you'll see that we're often out of quite a few
of the items. Basically we're a really small independent operation,
so you know, basically custom made, so sometimes you'll have

(13:32):
to wait to get to get something you're looking for.
But more bucktail type lures. We usually have the majority
of those in stock.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Well. The Lee lures are definitely worth the wait. Lee.
If someone wants to talk to you personally and learn more,
can you give your phone number?

Speaker 9 (13:52):
Sure you can reach me at six o' eight four
four four, or you can message me across the social
old Facebook, Instagram at today's angler.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Fantastic, Lee, Thank you so much and have another great
fishing season.

Speaker 9 (14:10):
Sounds good, Wally, Thanks for having me on. Look forward
to seeing you again.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Okay, you're welcome, folks. That was Lee Chalkin. Stay tuned,
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Speaker 4 (15:45):
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it's that time of year when you're looking for something
to do. But we have been talking a lot of fishing,
and we're still talking fishing. Co owner Dan Durbin from

(16:06):
the Wisconsin Fishing Expos joining me. We're gonna give a
rundown on that. It is Saturday, the twenty second and
the twenty third, and Dan.

Speaker 12 (16:17):
Good morning, good morning. How are you doing.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
We're doing good. So fish Expo still Saturday and Sunday
yet here right off the beltline, Madison, Wisconsin. That is
the location of that. So Dan, should we kick it
off with ticket options for the folks?

Speaker 12 (16:33):
Yeah? Sure, I mean, you know, you can definitely pay
cash at the door. That's that's actually your cheapest way
to get in, you know, twelve bucks, and then the
parking that's that's the county. But you can do it
online and it'll speed up the process a little bit,
not a ton, but then you do, you know, suffer
the dollar fifty ticket increase with with with Ticketmaster. But yeah,

(17:01):
so it's still a cheap date, right, It's a lot
cheaper than checking out a movie for two hours. You
get a full day of entertainment here.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Well, you know, I talked to people last year DA
and they really liked it electronic because they did get
in quicker. And you know, for a buck and a half,
I'd rather skip the line and shoot right into the
show because the lines do tend to get long, and
I encourage people to, you know, either get there early
because you're you know, the line does get long, especially
on Saturday, so get there early. There is a also

(17:31):
there's a charge for parking.

Speaker 12 (17:33):
Correct, Yeah, there is a charge for parking. That's I think,
I gosh, because we don't do it. I think it's
seven to fifty. But you know, a buck fifty for
a big radio host, you know, I know you're you
and Wally. That's not a big deal, you know for
you guys. But if you want a cheaper deal, just
pay cash at the door and you're still going to
get in really quick.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Yep. And you have a military and first responder discount.
People just go to the website all the infos there, Hey,
us jump into seminar speakers. You have probably one of
the best lineups. I'll mention a couple of them. Tommy
Kimos again, he's always great. Steve Hrbeck, legendary mussel ring
muskie angler. Tom Wins going to be there with his

(18:13):
electronics seminar and folks, I don't care what seminaror what
electronics you run, you need to attend this. I was
there last year and you can learn a ton and
apply it right into your boat. Greg Karch has his
kids and uh, I guess Larry Larry Smith and Ishmun
Roll Hot Dan Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
Man.

Speaker 12 (18:33):
We got twenty five seminar speakers this year. We've we've
definitely been a little bit of a turn in terms
of seminar speakers because you know, we unfortunately the bass
Master lead series stuff blankets both sides of our show.
So we have to our our fix for that is

(18:54):
that we you know, we can't get a lot of
the you know, some of the big speakers, but we
did find some made ones anyway in terms of Fishman
Row and and twenty five different speakers that will we'll
teach about everything you need to know. And like you said,
you know with I'm just talking bass, but Tom Hoyne
the Kemos, you know, two of the biggest Walley guys

(19:16):
going and both you know, for Tom Hoyn and Ishman
Row Die was one of our sponsors. And if you
attend both seminars, you go, you come on and catch
one and there's going to be a part two seminar
that's completely different for both guys. And I was going
to donate a couple you know, Roden Real combo. That's

(19:38):
two three hundred dollars combo if you if you attend
both so and are the lucky winners.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
So well, that's great. How about we got a couple
of minutes left, Dan, how about kids? I call it
kids fun man. You have a whole lineup of kids'
own trout, pond fish, Bengal bumper bolts, mintal races. Uh wow,
I want to touch on all that good stuff.

Speaker 12 (20:01):
Yeah, I mean it's a ton of fun for everybody
with like you said, with the bumper boats and the
trout fishing and our trout fishing. If you if the
kid catches a fish with a tag trout, you actually
get a prize as well. And and the gear gang,
whether you're a kid or an adult, you could win
a fantastic trip to northern Wisconsin. And just for showing up,

(20:23):
you know. So there's a ton of stuff to do,
and it's a it's a super family friendly event. You
could spend the whole day, not a problem.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Yeah, we should mention the price, patrol a wander the show,
giving out stuff. It's really a cool idea. Last thing, Dan,
forty five seconds or so three hundred and three hundred
and thirty boots, three fifty. What do you have this year?

Speaker 12 (20:44):
It's over three fifty. We're approaching four hundred booths or
eighty different boats. And just so you know, the prices
has come down a bit in financing, so it's it
dropped a couple of points. So people can come there
and enjoy the whole day and see lures and baits
the most important thing. It's baits and stuff and tackle

(21:07):
that you're not going to find on Amazon. It's you're
going to talk to the people that build the baits
because they built them because they want to catch fish
and they want you to catch fish.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Right, And now we should mention, as Dan said, full
lineup of boats, many different dealers. It's fun to wander that,
so I would Dan just suggests going to the website
Wisconsin Fishing expot website and we'll let you get.

Speaker 12 (21:31):
Sounds good, okay, right, Fishingexpo dot com.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
You bet see it at the show.

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Let's fish explore over three hundred and fifty booths, over
twenty seminars and a dozen Boat Dealers at the Wisconsin
Fishing x BO February twenty first to the twenty third
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and unique vendors not found in stores. Kids' activities include
the Trout Pond Casting competitions, Boat Fishing Kids Bingo, and
free giveaways every day Hey wifishingexpot dot com for details.

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Hey, welcome back, folks, thanks for listening. You know, people
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Speaker 6 (24:29):
Yeah, this week's UDA.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
It's a short one, but now people are now getting
their boats back out on the Mississippi River system. Go
to Facebook. I posted up a picture of a guy
about ten foot from the gates on the Mississippi below
the dam. That is about what I call instant death
to get sucked into those gates. So people, it's all
about safety, whether it's ice, water or whatever. Wally Dakota

(24:54):
Sunset Resort still has openings for fishermen. So good place
to visit. What else you got, Wally.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Well, Captain, we've got an announcement to make. Oh, after
fifteen great years, we're hanging up the headsets, Captain. We're
going fishing. And I gotta say it's been great working
with you. You're hard working, organized and always on time. Captain,
it's been fun.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Yeah, we are hanging up. We're closing down the show.
Our last broadcast is the Wisconsin Fishing Expo February twenty second.
People out in the jungle and all over the world
are going to miss us on iHeart, but I got
to throw a couple things out here. You know. The
nice thing about being partnered with iHeartRadio. We reached a
quarter billion listeners in the world, thirty two million monthly

(25:41):
listeners and up to thirty one million podcasts listeners. That's
some pretty good numbers. Also, Wally, we won some numerous
awards for media and photography, especially from the Outdoor Association
Outdoor Writers Group, and as far as trips, Wally, looking back,

(26:01):
I would say the Kentucky trip was one of our
best ones. We caught giant crappies and drank some moonshine.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
That was good. Memories and also thanks to all of
our guests. We've interviewed over fifteen hundred guests, some of
the best sportsmen and sportswomen in the country in Canada.
That's been a pleasure, Captain.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Yeah, and we could have done it with all our
twenty eight sponsors and please our websites up till the
end of the month still support those. Big shout out
to Benyott thirteen years as our producer and he bailed
us out of many things, was always traveling with us
for live broadcast. Dave McCann is on board. He's actually

(26:44):
listening right now. He has picked up the rains while
he also we did a lot of live broadcasts all
over the place that was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Those are great times and at some of those we
met some special guests like El Linder, Kevin Van Damn
and of course Steve Herbick and so many more. So
the live broadcasting was always exciting. Also, we should give
a shout out to Tim Scott who liked our idea
and helped us launch the show. So shout out to

(27:13):
Tim Scott, thank you.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Yeah, there was many people in the station there that
kind of helped us get going. But we we did broadcasts,
actually live broadcast many places, obviously the Wisconsin Fishing Expo,
the Open Season Sportsman Show, the National Professional Anglers Association,
we did that several times, the Milwaukee Musky Expo, and

(27:35):
so we had fun with the guests that doing the
live broadcast, especially being it was live, we just kind
of winged it. And the other thing, Wally, you know,
I look back and if I had to pick one
thing out that really jumps you know you and I
did a ton of kids kids fishing events and I
was I always you know, when you're standing there and

(27:56):
kids are fishing, you cannot replace the smiles, the giggles
when a kid has a fish on you just there's
nothing else you could give. A kid when he's getting
his first fish, his parents are flashing, you know, their camera,
but the excitement on his face is just it's it's
just a treasure.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
So those are some of my best memories. To all
the kids fishing events we helped organize, and the tendencies
were great and we put smiles on a lot of
kids' faces. The family Fishing Day at the Cleary Pond
was always special. Parents showed up with their kids and
some had never caught a fish ever. Their first fish
was caught there, and so we were making memories for

(28:35):
a lifetime there. The Taking ad All Fishing tournament at
Wilderness Fishing Game had as many as one hundred boats competing,
so you know you're talking three hundred people out there
fishing in our event. That was pretty fantastic.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Yeah, and we developed a lot of friendships because a
few of our sponsors. We did trips with float trips
down the Wisconsin River, we fished the Madison Chain, we
did some hunting, and the fun part there. There was
always a little bit of competition that went on in
a couple of beers afterwards, Wally, you know the one
the one thing that kind of got us I think

(29:09):
kind of got us kicked off. Remember when we used
to do some TV with with Dave from Northland Adventures
and we were doing the Wisconsin River one we had
the helicopter out filming over top of us. That kind
of kicked things off.

Speaker 6 (29:22):
I always thought that was.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
A great event. With David Carlson from Northland Adventures. Every
year he'd reach out to us and we'd help him.
Another one real quick, which is when ppe professional pest elimination,
rented some capins on Castle Rock. We went up and fished.
We all caught fish, all ten of us, and we
played cards and had a cold beverage after that was awesome.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
So folks, Yeah, fifteen years goes fast, but make sure
you come and visit us. We will be at it
till February twenty second once again. That is our last
live radio show, and Wally and I are gonna I'll
be sitting on a stump in the woods. Wally's going
to be guiding and we'll see at the upcoming show.
Oh thanks for spending the Saturday morning with us.
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