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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Now, here's your hosts, Dave Gasper and Nick bruce Awitz.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Welcome into the Jay and Ksecurity Solutions Basketball postgame Show.
I'm your host, Dave Gasper, joined by Nick bruce Witz.
The Badger's fall to BYU ninety eight to seventy. We
invite you to join the conversation with us on the
hot line six eight three two one thirteen ten. That's
the number two call in. Not quite a revenge game
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here for the Badgers after BYU ended Wisconsin season back
in March, a second chance to take them down, and
this one wasn't even close. The Badgers shot poorly both
from the field and at the free throw line, and
you just tell this team was simply just not at
the same level as this BYU squad, Nick, who have
invested a lot in this roster, and they've clearly invested wisely.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Yeah, this is not a good reflection of what I
think This Wisconsin men's basketball team is, But I do
think it's a great reflection of the potential of what
BYU has for a roster this year. They are top
ten ranked team for a reason. They fell just short
earlier this past week to Yukon, and this is a
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team that's going to be challenging for the Big Twelve
title and for the national title. In my opinion, it
starts with debatsa who wasn't out there for a good
chunk of the second half because of fouls.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
But Richie Saunders is.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
A guy that killed us last year in the tournament
continues to do so this year. As you look down
their roster, you reflect on what they have and you say, yeah,
they are probably better across the board than the Badgers
in a lot of ways. The Badgers needed to be
special today with Blackwell and Boyd. Those guys were good,
but definitely not playing their best form of basketball today
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and that's why you watch and you see a great
discrepancy on the scoreboard.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, it was an especially rough shooting day for John Blackwell.
He ends up with fourteen points, but three of thirteen
from the field and seven of twelve at the free
throw line. Lots of missed free throws, which is very
unusual for this Badger squad. Seventeen of twenty six from
the free throw line in this game. That's about sixty
five percent, one of their worst percentages that they put
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up in recent years, because they've just been so good
there in the past couple of seasons. But today they
were just off and early on when this game was close.
In that first half, Nick, the Badgers had a ton
of opportunities at the free throw line and they just
were not able to take advantage of them. They missed
four free throws. They had opportunities for five more there
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in that first half, and that would have made this
look heading into the second half just a little bit closer.
It just it kept piling on for Wisconsin, those missed opportunities,
especially at the free throw line.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yeah, that's something that they hadn't made. They have always
been making the most of, at least in the last
two seasons, right, So you take all of last year
and into this season, they're eighty three percent from the
free throw line, was the best in the country, and
to watch what they did today is certainly uncharacteristic for
a group that has excelled at that spot and pair
that with the fact that they were unable to capitalize
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from deep. They weren't taking poor threes, they just weren't
making them. And you look at the other side and
they were making the threes that Wisconsin simply couldn't put down.
You lose this game by twenty eight, you lose to
three point battle by seven. There's twenty one points right
there in that twenty eight point discrepancy. The sil Wisconsin
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team that has played laxadaisical at times this year and
gotten away away with it because they have enough time
against an inferior opponent. This tonight was not an opportunity
to play a game at which you could have a
substantial lull or play out of your form of basketball.
And Wisconsin turned the ball over way too much, couldn't
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make their shots. John Blackwell was unable to capitalize on opportunities.
And I think this team goes as he goes in
a lot of ways. Not to mention, Austin Rapp just
had an all around putrid performance tonight.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, Austin Rapp two points, both coming at the free
throw line. OH of seven from the field, oh of
five from the three point line. I mean it was
just a really really tough shooting night. I mean not
just for RAP, I mean Rap especially had a rough one,
but all around for the Badgers. I mean it was
just rough, going twenty four percent from three, just seven
to twenty nine from beyond the arc. So a rough
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shooting game, especially when this offense is predicated quite a
bit on shooting the three ball. I mean, that's what
we've seen. Guard modernized this offense, as we saw a
bunch last year and even more so this year. They
are going to be shooting a lot of threes, and
when you have such a poor performance from that line,
it leaves you vulnerable on the offensive end and coming
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back on the defensive end. So it was just one
of those games Nick where they just couldn't really get
into a rhythm. Rap did not get into a rhythm.
Andrew Roady, I mean he had five points, not a
particularly strong game either. He wasn't really able to get
into a rhythm. Blackwell couldn't. It was just such tough
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sledding all around on that offensive end, which we haven't
seen all season. But then again, SIU Edwardsville is not
quite the same level of defense as BYU.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
No, they are not, and BYU is not known for
the defense, and that was a large talking point of
the performance tonight was I think it's eye opening how
much better they have been defensively this year. They reset
their roster in a lot of ways, just like most
teams in the country. But I mean they have fixtures
that were not necessarily able to lead a successful defensive
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output last year, and this year they're doing much better,
I think, most notably tonight. They're not a small team
by any means, but Wisconsin's the seventh tallest roster in
all of college basketball and average height. They were out
rebounded by a BYU group who is not that right,
and they didn't have Diabansa on the floor for a
large chunk of this game. He ends up with an
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impressive eighteen points in just twenty nine minutes, right, So
you play that out to a season average in terms
of minutes on the floor, right, you're looking at seven
ish more minutes in this game. He plays in the
thirties per contest, and it did not look tonight like
he had the opportunity to really flex his muscles.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Eleven of twelve with the free throw.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Line kind of saves his line, but overall Wisconsin defensively
certainly did not play well enough, and offensively they did
not do what they typically have done recently, at least
over the last season plus now cover the defensive walls
with offensive output.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, I mean, when when you give up ninety eight points,
there's not many games that you're going to end up winning.
And at Banta, I mean, he's someone who's gonna find
ways to score, and he's able to draw those fouls
and get to the free throw line quite a bit
and ends up having a really strong night. But yeah,
he got it into four fouls pretty quickly. So there was
a large stretch there in the second half where BYU
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did not have their best player out there on the court.
So you think, hey, I mean this is an opportunity
for Wisconsin to get themselves back into the game here.
And it seemed like they were making a bit of
a run there for a little bit. I mean, they
got it to you know, within seven at one point,
they got to forty nine to fifty six, and it's like, okay,
may have they got a little bit of momentum. They're
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they're coming up here, and then you know, Keita and
Richie Saunders just kind of come in and they just
steal the momentum right back can go in a big
run and from there on out, Wisconsin had no chance
to just got further out of control from there.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Richie Saunders is now maybe my least favorite player in
the country because he's dropped fifty one combined on our
heads in the two games that we have seen in March,
when the Badgers lose by two in the round of
thirty two and now tonight in Salt Lake City. This
guy has been a Badger killer. He missed all seven
of his three point attempts in their previous contest against Yukon,
so he rebounds tonight as positive regression would suggest for
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a shooter of his caliber, by making ten of sixteen
from the field, but five of nine from deep, and
he had an opportunity for an and one three at
one point which he missed. But Richie Saunders has stepped
up to kind of obliterate Wisconsin two times now, and
if we are fortunate enough to see him down the
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line again, which I say tongue in cheek, I would
prefer not to. I'd hope that maybe he has an
off game where the Badgers have a better way of
attacking him because sixteen shot attempts for him. Multiple reasons why,
I would say primarily a product of Diabasa being off
the floor, but he got to stop him. There were
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occasions where he was just wide open, and I'm sure
Wisconsin didn't do that intentionally, So find a way to
not allow for him to be open and get his
shot going, because he's clearly one of the better players
in the country.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, he is, and I mean he just continues to go.
I mean that's some of that. I mean, Butcher during
the broadcast, as we're listening to it, he was just like, look,
you can't allow that guy to get shots off. I mean,
he's a no shot guy. Like you have to be
on him no matter where he is, no matter what
he's doing. You got to be on this guy. And
the Badgers simply were not. And he got quite a
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few looks and he buried the Badgers because of it,
and they they just had a tough time of being
able to make that run there. I mean, especially through
the end of the first half he was going off
against him, and then there in the in the later
part of the second half. I mean, it's just just incredible. Thankfully,
he's a senior, so this is I believe his last year.
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I mean, you never know what NCAA eligibility. Nowadays you
can get super seniors and super duper seniors and get
more eligibility as time goes on. But uh, yeah, Saunders
was the nemesis. He was the nightmare for the Badgers
in this one that they just simply had no answer for.
Uh and he plays thirty six minutes. I mean, even
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when you get Tabanta out there with four fouls and
have him sitting for a bit, you still can't take
advantage because Saunders is there. They go.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
The Badgers do two for twenty one in terms of
their starting lineup from deep, two for twenty one from
their start good nick. Their three point numbers are simply
and as bad as they are elevated substantially by Braden
Carrington's four or five from deep Carrington was was a
bucket tonight, and a lot of that was late game
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a couple of those three. The final shot of the
game four Wisconsin was a three by Carrington which he buried.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
But you need.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I remember commenting last week in a performance that every
starter had multiple threes. You need multiple starters with three
plus three pointers on a nightly basis from Wisconsin, I
think to be playing anywhere close to the expectation on
how this offense is going to operate, they need to
make threes. And maybe it was the court, maybe it
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was the atmosphere. I don't know why Wisconsin was so
far off. It's often, you know, you see one guy
or two guys who have bad games from deep. Wisconsin
was leaving him short over and over and over and
over again. Rap even Airballd won in the first half.
I do not know why Wisconsin couldn't make a three.
Sometimes it's infectious and it's just the off day for
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a group. But you look at that shooting performance by Wisconsin.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
It was abysmal.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, it was terrible. I mean you had over four
from Nick Boyd from three, Austin Rapp over five, Nolan
Winter over four, Blackwell and Roady got one apiece on
five attempts and three attempts respectively. But yeah, Carrington four
or five from three. He was the only one that
was hitting. He was the only one that could see it.
And maybe it was the second three point line, the
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fact that they were on an NBA court. They had
the NBA three point line and then the college three
point line. So maybe instinctively, especially in a lot of
them there they were behind the NBA three point line,
which is a little bit further back, and they were
maybe expecting or maybe you know, subconsciously thinking that that
was just a college three point line. That's why they
kept leaving everything short. But either way, not a great
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shooting performance from Wisconsin. They needed to figure things out
and end up getting better next time around because losing
like this, losing by twenty eight is not fun. And
we like to have fun when it comes to basketball,
when it comes to this program, and we like to
have fun facts as well. Those are gonna be coming up.
On the other side. We are also going to be
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joined by Nick osen who he has fun everywhere that
he goes. But I imagine Nick Osin was not having
the most fun out there in Salt Lake City today
as he was out there for the game. We're gonna
get his thoughts from twenty four seven sports coming up
later on in the show as well. That's coming up
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Badger's Fall ninety eight to seventy to by you you're
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Speaker 6 (13:35):
Show slip past Nolan Winter two hand slam low block
right on a.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Time from Andrew Roadie. Welcome back to the Jay and
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fall today to the BYU Cougars ninety eight to seventy
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in the Bad Boy Mower's Classic as we got this
pre or early season.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Non screams bad boys like Mormons, you know, the bad
boys of the world.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, the bad Boy Mowers, the bad boy Mormons mixed together. Yeah,
it's uh yeah, I mean Wisconsin was playing bad. I'll
tell you that.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
No, they did not play well at all, you know.
And I'm grasping at straws making fun of the fan base.
But I look at this team at BYU and it's like.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
They are a product.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Of today's modern college sport climate. The money there is substantial,
and overnight they can turn a basketball program that was
never relevant Jim er fordet. And now it's once again
relevant again.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Fifteen years later.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Remember when Jimmer Fredett was going to be like the
next big thing in basketball.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
He was in China. Okay, he was a very big
deal in China, just not here.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
He was the lost.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
He was a great player, Okay, just not here in
the States.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, yeah, not in the NBA. Very good in college.
Had a good run there. But yeah, and you know,
I wonder, Nick, do you think, I mean, Greg Gard
has done a fantastic job with this program, I mean
working the transfer portal, recruiting, building a consistent winner year
in and year out. Do you think maybe this isn't
this is also a program where Wisconsin may just simply
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need more money in order to be a true competitor
and contender to win a national title.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Again, I think that where they stand now are competitors
for a national title.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Are they in the top three tiers? Probably not?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
But they are a second weekend team on paper right
if they can repeat the production of.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Last year.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
By third weekend team right.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Seed wise, they were supposed to be a second weekend team,
and that's been the reality for a while. They need
to succeed in the tournament. I think that the questions
you have to ask about Wisconsin at this moment are, yes,
they're winning in the transfer portal, But where are they
with developing young talent. It's obvious you look at guys
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like Nolan Winter and John Blackwell and say, yes, they
recruited them, they've developed them, right classes twenty twenty three,
they've gotten better each year. But you have to find
ways to have guys like aj debatsa who is obviously
he's a number one recruit in the country. So that's
pie in the sky for Wisconsin. But are they gonna
have guys that can walk in as true freshmen and
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be stars.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
And if Wisconsin can.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Get to a point where that's the player that they
can recruit to the to become a Badger, because they're
doing a hell of a job supplementing the roster and
the portal, But you do want to find ways to
have players who come in as stars and develop into superstars.
And that's just not where Wisconsin is at this moment.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, well, I mean Debanta, I mean, yeah, number one
recruit in the country. So yeah, maybe pie in the sky,
but it's not like BYU has been a you know,
consistent powerhouse, say thet Yeah, it's simply the cash. So
I mean that's something that can get you to compete
for guys like that. I mean, yes, it is going
to take a lot more than perhaps Wisconsin may currently
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be comfortable with. But it's not like you're losing it
to Duke or North Carolina or like one of those
blue bloods where it's like, Okay, yeah, every top recruit
is going to go there. This is one where it's
like it's just straight up who's got the most money
that they're offering, Like that's very that very easily could
have been Wisconsin as much as they could have been
BYU for Debanta. So I mean that that's where I'm
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just kind of asking the question, like could could that
be the case where it's just like, hey, look, maybe
just got to throw some more money at some of
these top freshman recruits across the country to bring them
into the fold. Like the right guys on the transfer
portal is awesome, and they have done a fantastic job
with building these rosters, but in order to if the
goal here is to win a national championship, not just
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to make it to the second weekend of the NCAA tournament.
If the goal is to win a national championship, those
may be the kinds of guys that you got to
just pony up for at this point, because you know,
it's not like Sam Decker and Frank Kaminski are gonna
be able to walk through that door anymore. Where it's just, hey, yeah,
you got the top Wisconsin guys and they're just going
to come here like You've got to pony up a
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little bit more if you want to get them and
keep them in your program.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Right yeah, And Decker was top recruit in the state,
and you know, Frank was unheralded, so there's a little
bit of difference, you know, ultimately, and they were here, right,
Frank would have never been here come seasons three and
four and become a superstar in today's he would have left,
right because he would add an opportunity elsewhere. And all
this to say, you can't go so far in the
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other direction that you're Rutgers, because they ponied up last
year for both Porter and the Ace Bailey and they
both ended up being Ron Harper, excuse me, Harper, Dylan Harper.
So Harper and Bailey last year and they didn't do anything,
they didn't make the tournament. So Wisconsin's in a hell
of a spot right now. I think that it'd be
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an extreme overreaction to look at this game and say
Wisconsin can't hang. They had good looks and they had
a terrible shooting performance, but all season long, they've been
a really good shooting team. So BYU, this is a
team you would see in the Final four if Wisconsin
were to make it there, certainly in the Elite eight.
I mean, it's gonna be a team that I think,
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by the end of the year remains in the top
ten in the AP pool, if not in the top five.
So Wisconsin did not hang today. They did not deliver
in any way. It's hard to circle anything that they
did well besides Braden Carrington right now.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, Carrington had the best game of anyone in this one,
and the Badgers were simply needing more, you know, and
he only played eighteen minutes, but they needed more from
their starters. But Carrington, he certainly helped make this game
look at least a little less bad for the Badgers here.
But you know, nevertheless, we still had fun with this game,
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as we always do. They're more fun after wins, yes,
but games are always fun, and that means we have
some fun facts. As we get two fun facts with Dave, Hey,
have you ever heard me use the term of fun fact?
I got a couple of fun facts here because I have.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
A fun fact.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
You're a fun fact. I do first time in history
this has happened in eight games, five turnovers, and he's
recorded thirty five assists. Spent a long time since we've
seen a game like this for.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Fun out here.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
This game's fun.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I love that fact is fun?
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Are you fired up?
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I'm fired up for fun facts with Dave?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
All right, let's get to some fun facts here. We
are continuing our countdown or count up to a thousand
points in the college careers for a couple of Badger players.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
Here.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Andrew Roady, with his five points here tonight, is now
just thirteen points shy of one thousand in his college career.
Started at Saint Thomas, I went to Virginia and now
here at Wisconsin, Brookfield native thirteen shy of a thousand
in his career.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
You hope, knock on wood, that he can get.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
It in the first game here of the Rady Children's
Invitational coming up next week.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Yes, so, Wisconsin native too.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Andrew Roady to get to a thousand points as a
member of the Wisconsin Badgers will be well worth it.
I think he's a guy that I I would argue
you need to get more out of. So far this
year he has been underwhelming in my opinion Max Klesmitt.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Last year when I was dogging on him left and right.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
His defensive ability is out put on that end was excellent.
So you need to do a little bit better if
you're Andrew roadiuse I feel like he's supposed to be
there for three.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
And d he hasn't done either at a high level
so far this year.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, it has been a struggle. John Blackwell today with
fourteen points. Again not his best performance, three of thirteen
from the field, but fourteen points added to his ledger
and he is now fifty three points shy of one
thousand in his career as a Wisconsin Badger. So he's
closing in on it. Couldn't take him a couple more
games still, but John Blackwell is quickly closing in on
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a thousand.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Blackwell's star it looked tonight like he didn't have it,
and unfortunately Wisconsin wasn't able to rally the rest of
the roster around him and find a way to make
up for his inefficiencies three of thirteen from the field.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
I hope that's as ugly.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
And I would maybe even put my money on that
being his ugliest performance on the year.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Oh there we go. Okay, we got money on it
this time. But Braden Carrington fourteen points for him tonight,
that's his new high as a Wisconsin Badger, his career
highd twenty in a game. But Nolan Winter in this
game fourteen points and fourteen rebounds. That's a career double
double number six for Nolan Winter and his third of
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the season. So he had three in the first two
years of his career and now he's got three double
doubles in five games this season. Nick, Nolan Winter just
continues to impress here and continues to grow and improve
in his junior season.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Yeah, Winter's a stud.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
I think that his value is obvious to this group,
and he has done a hell of a job turning
himself into a far more reliable rebounder. As you've highlighted
six career double doubles, and three of them already this year,
he has gone through that transformation. I felt like tonight,
had he made a couple of those threes, you would
have felt a lot better about this team's performance because
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he spreads the floor. When he's able to knock down
the threes, able to put him in, then you're leaving
yourself vulnerable without a big guy down there to get
the board.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, so you know, again, not the best performance really
for much of anyone in this game, except for Braden
Carrington who showed pretty well. But a lot of stuff
left to be desired in this game. But the Badgers,
they still got a very good team. They got a
lot of work ahead of them. And it's still November.
We still got plenty of time to go until March.
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We still got plenty of stuff for this group to
learn about themselves. And I would have to imagine that.
I mean, the teach tape from this game is gonna
be pretty good. I mean there's gonna be a lot
that they can learn from this, a lot that they
can implement and practice to prevent a twenty eight point
blowout like this from happening going forward.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Yeah, you gotta learn from these mistakes. But you needed
to wear this one. I think Wisconsin, it's inevitable that
they're gonna lose a handful of games this year just
because of how competitive this conference is and if you
can play a team like BYU and then maybe rally and.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Live up to the standard of what they lay like.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
On the other side moving forward, it's the value of
this loss, I hope is pretty significant as they get
set for a holiday tournament and the Big Ten schedule
right around the corner.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, a lot of value to be found there. And
there's also a lot of value to be found in
talking to Nick Osen from twenty four to seven Sports,
which we will do on the other side. He was
out there at the game in Utah, so we're gonna go.
We're going to end up getting him coming up on
the other side in a little bit, get his thoughts
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on this game as the Badger's fall to BYU ninety
eight to seventy. Sick with us that's coming up on
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Speaker 6 (25:51):
Badger Paul right to left right wing chinicky transition three.
Speaker 8 (25:55):
Good for Wisconsin too. That's a big possession. It could
have been a foul down of that. I thought he
got hit, but leave to Wisconsin three. You'll take fifty
four forty seven. This is as closest Wisconsin's been in
some time.
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Dave gasper here along with Nick bruce Witz after this
Badgers lost to BYU ninety eight to seventy and the
bad Boy Mower's Classic. Just a rough game all around
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for the Badgers. Just trying to watch it here and
watching it live and in person was Nick Osen from
twenty four to seven Sports, who we welcome now into
the J and Ksecurity Solutions Basketball postgame Show. Nick, this
one was pretty rough all around. What's stuck out to
you as the worst part of the performance here tonight
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from Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, guys, you know, obviously a tough one. I will
get into that, Dave, of course, I just want to say,
and it's kind of you know, part of my answer too.
I don't think anybody if you said that the Badgers
lost in this one right going in would have been
a shock. But I think what surprised me a little bit,
and then it was actually echoed very well and strongly
from Nolan Winter and Greg Gard, which I will be
(27:20):
writing about as well. Was basically Dave that that it
didn't seem like the Badgers fully could respond. You know,
it felt like at times maybe that they were in
like you know, like a boxing match will just make
that parallel, and you know, you look for them to
just kind of keep getting up and keep taking those
punches and then throwing some of their own, right. I
think they did very early on in that second half,
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and I looked at another media member from Wisconsin. We thought, Okay,
you know, this is maybe the potential moment, and then
it was like things kind of spiraled. And so I
think Dave that on top of I'm not sure how
much this is controlled or it was just really a
weird sample size, but the shooting obviously right. I mean
at halftime, I was looking at all these different numbers
and that was like the only glaring difference, which obviously
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played a huge role in tonight's response.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Nick.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
When you look at the passing by the Badgers tonight,
you finished with eight assists. Two of those are a
familiar favorite will Garlock off the bench, like they struggled
to capitalize in any way when it came from moving
the ball and in an offensive set.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, Bruce, you know they they did, and I think that, Look,
I'm not in like full blown worry mode about any
of this, and no one should be, you know, right
right right what you mentioned. But I will say this,
and I'm actually quite impressed with it, even with all
the talent, right and the five stars and the money
talked about with BYU, Like, they are a decent defensive teams,
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and I think that they shut off a lot of
Wisconsin's actions, you know, really what the Badgers were trying
to do. I think actually both teams did you can
job it at the first couple of minutes, but then
obviously Byus went through essentially the whole game, and you know,
like I said, the Badgers couldn't consistently respond. You make
a great point again with it with the being will Garlocks. Now,
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I will say, Bruce, it's just a bit of a counterpoint.
I could think of probably four plays off the top
of my head where there were really good lead passes
and open looks at the cup right like within two
or three feet of the basket that just didn't go down.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
It just felt like if it wasn't that, if it
wasn't created by themselves, the guys just weren't making the shots.
I mean, it's not a product of not not necessarily
finding open looks. It's just like, for whatever reason, unless
it was Nick Boyd slash into the rim or second
chance opportunity, felt like Wisconsin was just not capitalizing on anything.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, Bruce, exactly right. And and I think that is
something you know, it was asked about, of course, as
you'd expect, but that seemed like much less of a
concern to coach Guard and to Nolan went to the
player that we spoke with, just because frankly, I mean,
I'll just add, guys, because you kind of give me
spots to you know, share what we heard from the Prossers,
and Winter said something the effect of, you know, I
(30:06):
haven't written it out yet, but things like mentally weak,
you know, things like not being able to respond or
continue to fight. Obviously those things now that it's important
to know that if he feels like that was an
issue so early, but obviously that's not something that can
continue with a really good team or a team that
we think could be good to really good. So I
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was impressed about kind of how honest and Blakeney was
about those things. But obviously they need to get cleaned
up very quickly.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Talking about Nick Osen from twenty four to seven Sports,
he is out there in Salt Lake City covering the
Badger's team out here. You know, there weren't a lot
of great performances tonight, Nick, but one of them was
Braiden Carrington fourteen points four of five from three just
eighteen minutes. But what'd you make of what you saw
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from Braiden Carrington here tonight?
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You know, Dave, I'm actually really glad you asked about
him because people will jump to the shooting and of
course eighty percent from three is going to jump off
the page. That's not gonna, you know, usually happen. Obviously,
that won't usually happen for anybody. But I like what
Guard said about him. He said basically he wasn't afraid
of the moment or you know, he kept fighting, and
I would agree. I mean, I told you guys that
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before the season even started that I think he will
always kind of be that guy, that fighter bark, you know,
the energy off the bench, and hey, if he's hitting
shots like that, that's terrific. So what's stood out to me,
David is in a really tough night. He was one
of the positives for the Badgers. I think that that's
very important. I think his experience will continue to play
a role, and I liked some of the defensive moments
(31:41):
from Alexis bi Alawski's as well. But as Guard talked about,
some of the freshman definitely had some freshman moments.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Tonight, Nick from a basketball fan perspective, because I know
you just you simply love the game, specifically at the
college level, but all levels. Kevin Young the head coach
on the other side, he's a longtime NBA assistant and
he's kind of instilling a little bit of an NBA
culture here at BYU. Is this a flash in the
(32:10):
pan in your opinion, or do you think that BYU
is kind of on the fast track to being kind
of one of those national contenders on a yearly.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Basis Bruz, That's a great question, And you know, I
don't really have a doubt in my mind, I would say,
especially if if Kevin Young is still here. But I
mean now that nil is fully legal, right, which is
often used as like pay for play and the contracts
and such. BYU has a lot of support that many, many,
(32:39):
many schools could not get to just with kind of
some of their ties out here. And I don't want
to just say it's because of those things, because you
watch that club. I mean, that's a good basketball team.
It's a really good one. There's a good program under
Mark Cope, and I think that young and kind of
some of what you can do now just in this
day and age, that's probably made it a great one.
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I mean, I know they're ranked, you know, eight or nine,
and I'd say it's probably going to be a consistent
top twelve to fifteen, twelve to twenty program going forward,
just because of what they can have at their hands.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Nick osin twenty four seven Sports. As always, we appreciate
you hopping on the show and we look forward to
talking to you again next week from out there in
San Diego as the Badgers are in the Rady Children's Invitational.
Look forward to talking to you then and also talking
to you on DND on the game at Hope Boy
next week as well.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I can't wait. Guys, Thank you so much. And if
I don't catch you before, Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
Okay, there we go.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Happy Thanksgiving to you and well. Nick osin twenty four
seven Sports follow him on Twitter at the real Nick Osen.
We'll be back to wrap things up from this Badgers
in ninety eight to seventy loss to BYU. On the
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magic number for BYU you talked about, Butchi to Wisconsin
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fall to BYU ninety eight to seventy here today and
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the bad Boy Mower's Classic as they got things going
there in Salt Lake City, the home of the Utah Jazz.
They're playing on the Utah Jazz NBA Cup court because
the Jazz have a game there tonight at the Delta Center,
which is why they were kind of rushing through. Chris
Fosters and Brian Butcher's postgame show there that they had
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to kind of quick get them through so they couldn't
get Greg guard, but instead they talked with Badger's assistant
coach Joe Kravenhoff. And let's hear what coach Krabnhoff had
to say after this Badger's twenty eight point loss to
BYU b.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
YU knocks off Wisconsin ninety eight to seventy. Today we
are joined by Badger's assistant coach Joe Kravinhawks on the
postgame show. Coach, thanks very much for doing this, and
what are your initial impressions of this game today.
Speaker 9 (35:29):
I think the first thing is obviously it was a
big test for us and we didn't pass it. I
mean that just goes without being said. I'm looking up
at a box score on the on the beam here
and the numbers tell the story. But what we saw
is not where we need to be and where I
think we're gonna continue to work to get to. So
we got a long ways to go, but we learned
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a lot about our team and we didn't like what
we saw, but we know what we got to work on.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
Joe, you look at this team eight assists, only you
guys are averaging eighteen.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
What did b Y you do defensively to kind of.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
Limit the ball movement? And what did you guys do
that you didn't do so well to keep that ball
moving for each other?
Speaker 9 (36:08):
Yeah, I mean I could just say, you know, we
miss shots, but I think the pressure really put us
on our heels that leads to over dribbling. It got
us out of who we been through four games, and
obviously we haven't seen this kind of athlete or this
kind of pressure, so that's hard to emulate. But we
have We've have enough guys who've played in this stage
and played against these kind of opponents. So it's disappointing,
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but it's something that I think we're going to see
a lot of moving forward. So we got to get
a lot better just moving the ball and not over dribbling,
and those will lead to easier buckets. But again, I
thought we had some decent looks, you know, those we
worked all week. We even put a three point an
NBA three point line on the Coal Center floor to
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tell our guys to get inside of that line, but
we just shot them from too deep. But certainly by
you had a lot to do with that.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Joe.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
Last thing, we've got for you, because I know we
got a shorter pre our post game show here you
got get in the wat But defensively, what are some
of the takeaways you take away to kind of teach
your guys to get ready for the next couple of
you guys got coming up in San Diego.
Speaker 9 (37:07):
Yeah, I think one word to kind of talk about
all of it is discipline. I didn't think we were
disciplined enough. We get late into shot clock a couple
of times, you're fouling jump shooters, you're foulling drivers. They
lived at the line, and again credit to BYU, we
haven't seen this yet, but we're much more disciplined team.
We need to be a much more disciplined team defensively
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to keep them off the line and to be able
to become who we need to be defensively, because tonight
was not it. But I think we know exactly what
we're gonna be working on as we head into this week,
and we got another tough opponent coming up on Thursday.
Speaker 7 (37:42):
All right, thanks coach, appreciate getting the locker room.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
We appreciate you.
Speaker 9 (37:45):
Thanks everybody, and happy Thanksgiving coming up and to hang
with us. We're gonna get a lot.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Better, no doubt about that. Coach, Happy thanksgiving to you
as well. He is Badger's assistant coach, Joe Kravinoff joining
us on the Badgers postgame show.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
All right, there was Badger's assistant Joe Krabanhoff talking after
this ninety eight to seventy loss to be Yu and
you know, Nick as it kind of put in there
at the end, like hey, stick with us. This team's
gonna be really good. They're going to figure some things out.
This is a tough loss, but it's also I don't
think it's not an indication that this team is on
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any sort of downward trendom. And they've been so good
through the first couple of games. You get your first
real test here this time that they're going to look
to learn from and get better from.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
No doubt.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
And I think it is just a product of Krabanhoff
not being a head coach and certainly being as weathered
and seasoned as Greg gard Is.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
I don't think Greg would have had.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
The urge to try and apologize to the fans and
ensure them that the program, this team is better than
that today.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
I think that goes without being said.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
I think that this performance that is such an anomaly
for this program over the last two seasons. In particular,
you look at how they performed last year, performance offensively,
like this was just not really on.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
The table, like they were terrible tonight. And it's a
hostile environment.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
It's probably easier to play in than where they would
have played at BYU.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
But I just think this is a first time on
the road. People don't realize.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
I don't think if they pay attention to this program,
Wisconsin hasn't even left the state. They played their exhibition
game against Oklahoma advisor for him, that was the farthest
away from the Cole Center they've been all year. So
this is their first road game against maybe the best
team you'll play all year, and they did not play
well enough. I think that goes without being said that
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this team is better than what we saw today.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Though we appreciate craving Off.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
He's one of those assistant coaches that absolutely could be
a head coach elsewhere that's just stuck around because clearly
he's passionate about this team.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, this team, this program, and he does a fantastic
job being one of the top assistants there for Greg
Gard and yeah, this game. I mean it used to
be I remember not too long ago where seventy points
from Wisconsin was actually a pretty strong offensive output in
some of these games. I mean, as as we get
in the conference play, I mean, maybe that will you know,
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continue to be true because they're not gonna be scoring
ninety every single night. You know, I don't care what
kind of players you got on offense. In college basketball,
you generally don't see that happen all the time. But still, yeah,
not the best performance from Wisconsin here tonight. They just
couldn't get into a rhythm. They just couldn't find a
way to get things going. And it's tough game. Learn
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from it and get yourself better prepared for the next
one that you have coming up. When you're gonna take
on Providence on Thanksgiving Day, So right in the middle
of everyone eating their turkey and mashed potatoes and stuffing
and all of that, right there at four thirty, you're
gonna have Wisconsin against Providence. And after that game, you're
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gonna have us on the jan K Security Solutions Basketball
postgame show, as we're gonna be with you every single
game of this season. That'll do it for us here today,
I'd like to thank Nick Osen from twenty four seven
Sports from hopping on and joining us. I'd like to
thank our producer Casey James for Nick Bruswitz. I'm Dave Gasper.
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Thank you for listening once again. The final score BYU
ninety eight Wisconsin seventy. This has been the jan K
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Speaker 6 (41:36):
Way and that I'll do it with your final score
BYU ninety eight Wisconsin seventy
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I'm your host, Dave Gasper, joined by Nick bruce Witz.
The Badger's fall to BYU ninety eight to seventy. We
invite you to join the conversation with us on the
hot line six eight three two one thirteen ten. That's
the number two call in. Not quite a revenge game
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here for the Badgers after BYU ended Wisconsin season back
in March, a second chance to take them down, and
this one wasn't even close. The Badgers shot poorly both
from the field and at the free throw line, and
you just tell this team was simply just not at
the same level as this BYU squad, Nick, who have
invested a lot in this roster, and they've clearly invested wisely.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Yeah, this is not a good reflection of what I
think This Wisconsin men's basketball team is, But I do
think it's a great reflection of the potential of what
BYU has for a roster this year. They are top
ten ranked team for a reason. They fell just short
earlier this past week to Yukon, and this is a
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team that's going to be challenging for the Big Twelve
title and for the national title. In my opinion, it
starts with debatsa who wasn't out there for a good
chunk of the second half because of fouls.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
But Richie Saunders is.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
A guy that killed us last year in the tournament
continues to do so this year. As you look down
their roster, you reflect on what they have and you say, yeah,
they are probably better across the board than the Badgers
in a lot of ways. The Badgers needed to be
special today with Blackwell and Boyd. Those guys were good,
but definitely not playing their best form of basketball today
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and that's why you watch and you see a great
discrepancy on the scoreboard.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, it was an especially rough shooting day for John Blackwell.
He ends up with fourteen points, but three of thirteen
from the field and seven of twelve at the free
throw line. Lots of missed free throws, which is very
unusual for this Badger squad. Seventeen of twenty six from
the free throw line in this game. That's about sixty
five percent, one of their worst percentages that they put
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up in recent years, because they've just been so good
there in the past couple of seasons. But today they
were just off and early on when this game was close.
In that first half, Nick, the Badgers had a ton
of opportunities at the free throw line and they just
were not able to take advantage of them. They missed
four free throws. They had opportunities for five more there
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in that first half, and that would have made this
look heading into the second half just a little bit closer.
It just it kept piling on for Wisconsin, those missed opportunities,
especially at the free throw line.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yeah, that's something that they hadn't made. They have always
been making the most of, at least in the last
two seasons, right, So you take all of last year
and into this season, they're eighty three percent from the
free throw line, was the best in the country, and
to watch what they did today is certainly uncharacteristic for
a group that has excelled at that spot and pair
that with the fact that they were unable to capitalize
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from deep. They weren't taking poor threes, they just weren't
making them. And you look at the other side and
they were making the threes that Wisconsin simply couldn't put down.
You lose this game by twenty eight, you lose to
three point battle by seven. There's twenty one points right
there in that twenty eight point discrepancy. The sil Wisconsin
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team that has played laxadaisical at times this year and
gotten away away with it because they have enough time
against an inferior opponent. This tonight was not an opportunity
to play a game at which you could have a
substantial lull or play out of your form of basketball.
And Wisconsin turned the ball over way too much, couldn't
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make their shots. John Blackwell was unable to capitalize on opportunities.
And I think this team goes as he goes in
a lot of ways. Not to mention, Austin Rapp just
had an all around putrid performance tonight.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, Austin Rapp two points, both coming at the free
throw line. OH of seven from the field, oh of
five from the three point line. I mean it was
just a really really tough shooting night. I mean not
just for RAP, I mean Rap especially had a rough one,
but all around for the Badgers. I mean it was
just rough, going twenty four percent from three, just seven
to twenty nine from beyond the arc. So a rough
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shooting game, especially when this offense is predicated quite a
bit on shooting the three ball. I mean, that's what
we've seen. Guard modernized this offense, as we saw a
bunch last year and even more so this year. They
are going to be shooting a lot of threes, and
when you have such a poor performance from that line,
it leaves you vulnerable on the offensive end and coming
(05:16):
back on the defensive end. So it was just one
of those games Nick where they just couldn't really get
into a rhythm. Rap did not get into a rhythm.
Andrew Roady, I mean he had five points, not a
particularly strong game either. He wasn't really able to get
into a rhythm. Blackwell couldn't. It was just such tough
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sledding all around on that offensive end, which we haven't
seen all season. But then again, SIU Edwardsville is not
quite the same level of defense as BYU.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
No, they are not, and BYU is not known for
the defense, and that was a large talking point of
the performance tonight was I think it's eye opening how
much better they have been defensively this year. They reset
their roster in a lot of ways, just like most
teams in the country. But I mean they have fixtures
that were not necessarily able to lead a successful defensive
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output last year, and this year they're doing much better,
I think, most notably tonight. They're not a small team
by any means, but Wisconsin's the seventh tallest roster in
all of college basketball and average height. They were out
rebounded by a BYU group who is not that right,
and they didn't have Diabansa on the floor for a
large chunk of this game. He ends up with an
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impressive eighteen points in just twenty nine minutes, right, So
you play that out to a season average in terms
of minutes on the floor, right, you're looking at seven
ish more minutes in this game. He plays in the
thirties per contest, and it did not look tonight like
he had the opportunity to really flex his muscles.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Eleven of twelve with the free throw.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Line kind of saves his line, but overall Wisconsin defensively
certainly did not play well enough, and offensively they did
not do what they typically have done recently, at least
over the last season plus now cover the defensive walls
with offensive output.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, I mean, when when you give up ninety eight points,
there's not many games that you're going to end up winning.
And at Banta, I mean, he's someone who's gonna find
ways to score, and he's able to draw those fouls
and get to the free throw line quite a bit
and ends up having a really strong night. But yeah,
he got it into four fouls pretty quickly. So there was
a large stretch there in the second half where BYU
(07:31):
did not have their best player out there on the court.
So you think, hey, I mean this is an opportunity
for Wisconsin to get themselves back into the game here.
And it seemed like they were making a bit of
a run there for a little bit. I mean, they
got it to you know, within seven at one point,
they got to forty nine to fifty six, and it's like, okay,
may have they got a little bit of momentum. They're
(07:51):
they're coming up here, and then you know, Keita and
Richie Saunders just kind of come in and they just
steal the momentum right back can go in a big
run and from there on out, Wisconsin had no chance
to just got further out of control from there.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Richie Saunders is now maybe my least favorite player in
the country because he's dropped fifty one combined on our
heads in the two games that we have seen in March,
when the Badgers lose by two in the round of
thirty two and now tonight in Salt Lake City. This
guy has been a Badger killer. He missed all seven
of his three point attempts in their previous contest against Yukon,
so he rebounds tonight as positive regression would suggest for
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a shooter of his caliber, by making ten of sixteen
from the field, but five of nine from deep, and
he had an opportunity for an and one three at
one point which he missed. But Richie Saunders has stepped
up to kind of obliterate Wisconsin two times now, and
if we are fortunate enough to see him down the
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line again, which I say tongue in cheek, I would
prefer not to. I'd hope that maybe he has an
off game where the Badgers have a better way of
attacking him because sixteen shot attempts for him. Multiple reasons why,
I would say primarily a product of Diabasa being off
the floor, but he got to stop him. There were
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occasions where he was just wide open, and I'm sure
Wisconsin didn't do that intentionally, So find a way to
not allow for him to be open and get his
shot going, because he's clearly one of the better players
in the country.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, he is, and I mean he just continues to go.
I mean that's some of that. I mean, Butcher during
the broadcast, as we're listening to it, he was just like, look,
you can't allow that guy to get shots off. I mean,
he's a no shot guy. Like you have to be
on him no matter where he is, no matter what
he's doing. You got to be on this guy. And
the Badgers simply were not. And he got quite a
(09:46):
few looks and he buried the Badgers because of it,
and they they just had a tough time of being
able to make that run there. I mean, especially through
the end of the first half he was going off
against him, and then there in the in the later
part of the second half. I mean, it's just just incredible. Thankfully,
he's a senior, so this is I believe his last year.
(10:09):
I mean, you never know what NCAA eligibility. Nowadays you
can get super seniors and super duper seniors and get
more eligibility as time goes on. But uh, yeah, Saunders
was the nemesis. He was the nightmare for the Badgers
in this one that they just simply had no answer for.
Uh and he plays thirty six minutes. I mean, even
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when you get Tabanta out there with four fouls and
have him sitting for a bit, you still can't take
advantage because Saunders is there. They go.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
The Badgers do two for twenty one in terms of
their starting lineup from deep, two for twenty one from
their start good nick. Their three point numbers are simply
and as bad as they are elevated substantially by Braden
Carrington's four or five from deep Carrington was was a
bucket tonight, and a lot of that was late game
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a couple of those three. The final shot of the
game four Wisconsin was a three by Carrington which he buried.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
But you need.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I remember commenting last week in a performance that every
starter had multiple threes. You need multiple starters with three
plus three pointers on a nightly basis from Wisconsin, I
think to be playing anywhere close to the expectation on
how this offense is going to operate, they need to
make threes. And maybe it was the court, maybe it
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was the atmosphere. I don't know why Wisconsin was so
far off. It's often, you know, you see one guy
or two guys who have bad games from deep. Wisconsin
was leaving him short over and over and over and
over again. Rap even Airballd won in the first half.
I do not know why Wisconsin couldn't make a three.
Sometimes it's infectious and it's just the off day for
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a group. But you look at that shooting performance by Wisconsin.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
It was abysmal.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, it was terrible. I mean you had over four
from Nick Boyd from three, Austin Rapp over five, Nolan
Winter over four, Blackwell and Roady got one apiece on
five attempts and three attempts respectively. But yeah, Carrington four
or five from three. He was the only one that
was hitting. He was the only one that could see it.
And maybe it was the second three point line, the
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fact that they were on an NBA court. They had
the NBA three point line and then the college three
point line. So maybe instinctively, especially in a lot of
them there they were behind the NBA three point line,
which is a little bit further back, and they were
maybe expecting or maybe you know, subconsciously thinking that that
was just a college three point line. That's why they
kept leaving everything short. But either way, not a great
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shooting performance from Wisconsin. They needed to figure things out
and end up getting better next time around because losing
like this, losing by twenty eight is not fun. And
we like to have fun when it comes to basketball,
when it comes to this program, and we like to
have fun facts as well. Those are gonna be coming up.
On the other side. We are also going to be
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joined by Nick osen who he has fun everywhere that
he goes. But I imagine Nick Osin was not having
the most fun out there in Salt Lake City today
as he was out there for the game. We're gonna
get his thoughts from twenty four seven sports coming up
later on in the show as well. That's coming up
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Badger's Fall ninety eight to seventy to by you you're
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Speaker 6 (13:35):
Show slip past Nolan Winter two hand slam low block
right on a.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
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fall today to the BYU Cougars ninety eight to seventy
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in the Bad Boy Mower's Classic as we got this
pre or early season.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Non screams bad boys like Mormons, you know, the bad
boys of the world.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, the bad Boy Mowers, the bad boy Mormons mixed together. Yeah,
it's uh yeah, I mean Wisconsin was playing bad. I'll
tell you that.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
No, they did not play well at all, you know.
And I'm grasping at straws making fun of the fan base.
But I look at this team at BYU and it's like.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
They are a product.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Of today's modern college sport climate. The money there is substantial,
and overnight they can turn a basketball program that was
never relevant Jim er fordet. And now it's once again
relevant again.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Fifteen years later.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Remember when Jimmer Fredett was going to be like the
next big thing in basketball.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
He was in China. Okay, he was a very big
deal in China, just not here.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
He was the lost.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
He was a great player, Okay, just not here in
the States.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, yeah, not in the NBA. Very good in college.
Had a good run there. But yeah, and you know,
I wonder, Nick, do you think, I mean, Greg Gard
has done a fantastic job with this program, I mean
working the transfer portal, recruiting, building a consistent winner year
in and year out. Do you think maybe this isn't
this is also a program where Wisconsin may just simply
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need more money in order to be a true competitor
and contender to win a national title.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Again, I think that where they stand now are competitors
for a national title.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Are they in the top three tiers? Probably not?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
But they are a second weekend team on paper right
if they can repeat the production of.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Last year.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
By third weekend team right.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Seed wise, they were supposed to be a second weekend team,
and that's been the reality for a while. They need
to succeed in the tournament. I think that the questions
you have to ask about Wisconsin at this moment are, yes,
they're winning in the transfer portal, But where are they
with developing young talent. It's obvious you look at guys
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like Nolan Winter and John Blackwell and say, yes, they
recruited them, they've developed them, right classes twenty twenty three,
they've gotten better each year. But you have to find
ways to have guys like aj debatsa who is obviously
he's a number one recruit in the country. So that's
pie in the sky for Wisconsin. But are they gonna
have guys that can walk in as true freshmen and
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be stars.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
And if Wisconsin can.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Get to a point where that's the player that they
can recruit to the to become a Badger, because they're
doing a hell of a job supplementing the roster and
the portal, But you do want to find ways to
have players who come in as stars and develop into superstars.
And that's just not where Wisconsin is at this moment.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, well, I mean Debanta, I mean, yeah, number one
recruit in the country. So yeah, maybe pie in the sky,
but it's not like BYU has been a you know,
consistent powerhouse, say thet Yeah, it's simply the cash. So
I mean that's something that can get you to compete
for guys like that. I mean, yes, it is going
to take a lot more than perhaps Wisconsin may currently
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be comfortable with. But it's not like you're losing it
to Duke or North Carolina or like one of those
blue bloods where it's like, Okay, yeah, every top recruit
is going to go there. This is one where it's
like it's just straight up who's got the most money
that they're offering, Like that's very that very easily could
have been Wisconsin as much as they could have been
BYU for Debanta. So I mean that that's where I'm
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just kind of asking the question, like could could that
be the case where it's just like, hey, look, maybe
just got to throw some more money at some of
these top freshman recruits across the country to bring them
into the fold. Like the right guys on the transfer
portal is awesome, and they have done a fantastic job
with building these rosters, but in order to if the
goal here is to win a national championship, not just
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to make it to the second weekend of the NCAA tournament.
If the goal is to win a national championship, those
may be the kinds of guys that you got to
just pony up for at this point, because you know,
it's not like Sam Decker and Frank Kaminski are gonna
be able to walk through that door anymore. Where it's just, hey, yeah,
you got the top Wisconsin guys and they're just going
to come here like You've got to pony up a
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little bit more if you want to get them and
keep them in your program.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Right yeah, And Decker was top recruit in the state,
and you know, Frank was unheralded, so there's a little
bit of difference, you know, ultimately, and they were here, right,
Frank would have never been here come seasons three and
four and become a superstar in today's he would have left,
right because he would add an opportunity elsewhere. And all
this to say, you can't go so far in the
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other direction that you're Rutgers, because they ponied up last
year for both Porter and the Ace Bailey and they
both ended up being Ron Harper, excuse me, Harper, Dylan Harper.
So Harper and Bailey last year and they didn't do anything,
they didn't make the tournament. So Wisconsin's in a hell
of a spot right now. I think that it'd be
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an extreme overreaction to look at this game and say
Wisconsin can't hang. They had good looks and they had
a terrible shooting performance, but all season long, they've been
a really good shooting team. So BYU, this is a
team you would see in the Final four if Wisconsin
were to make it there, certainly in the Elite eight.
I mean, it's gonna be a team that I think,
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by the end of the year remains in the top
ten in the AP pool, if not in the top five.
So Wisconsin did not hang today. They did not deliver
in any way. It's hard to circle anything that they
did well besides Braden Carrington right now.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, Carrington had the best game of anyone in this one,
and the Badgers were simply needing more, you know, and
he only played eighteen minutes, but they needed more from
their starters. But Carrington, he certainly helped make this game
look at least a little less bad for the Badgers here.
But you know, nevertheless, we still had fun with this game,
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as we always do. They're more fun after wins, yes,
but games are always fun, and that means we have
some fun facts. As we get two fun facts with Dave, Hey,
have you ever heard me use the term of fun fact?
I got a couple of fun facts here because I have.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
A fun fact.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
You're a fun fact. I do first time in history
this has happened in eight games, five turnovers, and he's
recorded thirty five assists. Spent a long time since we've
seen a game like this for.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Fun out here.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
This game's fun.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I love that fact is fun?
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Are you fired up?
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I'm fired up for fun facts with Dave?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
All right, let's get to some fun facts here. We
are continuing our countdown or count up to a thousand
points in the college careers for a couple of Badger players.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
Here.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Andrew Roady, with his five points here tonight, is now
just thirteen points shy of one thousand in his college career.
Started at Saint Thomas, I went to Virginia and now
here at Wisconsin, Brookfield native thirteen shy of a thousand
in his career.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
You hope, knock on wood, that he can get.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
It in the first game here of the Rady Children's
Invitational coming up next week.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Yes, so, Wisconsin native too.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Andrew Roady to get to a thousand points as a
member of the Wisconsin Badgers will be well worth it.
I think he's a guy that I I would argue
you need to get more out of. So far this
year he has been underwhelming in my opinion Max Klesmitt.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Last year when I was dogging on him left and right.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
His defensive ability is out put on that end was excellent.
So you need to do a little bit better if
you're Andrew roadiuse I feel like he's supposed to be
there for three.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
And d he hasn't done either at a high level
so far this year.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, it has been a struggle. John Blackwell today with
fourteen points. Again not his best performance, three of thirteen
from the field, but fourteen points added to his ledger
and he is now fifty three points shy of one
thousand in his career as a Wisconsin Badger. So he's
closing in on it. Couldn't take him a couple more
games still, but John Blackwell is quickly closing in on
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a thousand.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Blackwell's star it looked tonight like he didn't have it,
and unfortunately Wisconsin wasn't able to rally the rest of
the roster around him and find a way to make
up for his inefficiencies three of thirteen from the field.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
I hope that's as ugly.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
And I would maybe even put my money on that
being his ugliest performance on the year.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Oh there we go. Okay, we got money on it
this time. But Braden Carrington fourteen points for him tonight,
that's his new high as a Wisconsin Badger, his career
highd twenty in a game. But Nolan Winter in this
game fourteen points and fourteen rebounds. That's a career double
double number six for Nolan Winter and his third of
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the season. So he had three in the first two
years of his career and now he's got three double
doubles in five games this season. Nick, Nolan Winter just
continues to impress here and continues to grow and improve
in his junior season.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Yeah, Winter's a stud.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
I think that his value is obvious to this group,
and he has done a hell of a job turning
himself into a far more reliable rebounder. As you've highlighted
six career double doubles, and three of them already this year,
he has gone through that transformation. I felt like tonight,
had he made a couple of those threes, you would
have felt a lot better about this team's performance because
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he spreads the floor. When he's able to knock down
the threes, able to put him in, then you're leaving
yourself vulnerable without a big guy down there to get
the board.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, so you know, again, not the best performance really
for much of anyone in this game, except for Braden
Carrington who showed pretty well. But a lot of stuff
left to be desired in this game. But the Badgers,
they still got a very good team. They got a
lot of work ahead of them. And it's still November.
We still got plenty of time to go until March.
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We still got plenty of stuff for this group to
learn about themselves. And I would have to imagine that.
I mean, the teach tape from this game is gonna
be pretty good. I mean there's gonna be a lot
that they can learn from this, a lot that they
can implement and practice to prevent a twenty eight point
blowout like this from happening going forward.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Yeah, you gotta learn from these mistakes. But you needed
to wear this one. I think Wisconsin, it's inevitable that
they're gonna lose a handful of games this year just
because of how competitive this conference is and if you
can play a team like BYU and then maybe rally and.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Live up to the standard of what they lay like.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
On the other side moving forward, it's the value of
this loss, I hope is pretty significant as they get
set for a holiday tournament and the Big Ten schedule
right around the corner.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, a lot of value to be found there. And
there's also a lot of value to be found in
talking to Nick Osen from twenty four to seven Sports,
which we will do on the other side. He was
out there at the game in Utah, so we're gonna go.
We're going to end up getting him coming up on
the other side in a little bit, get his thoughts
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on this game as the Badger's fall to BYU ninety
eight to seventy. Sick with us that's coming up on
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Basketball postgame show, and it's.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
Badger Paul right to left right wing chinicky transition three.
Speaker 8 (25:55):
Good for Wisconsin too. That's a big possession. It could
have been a foul down of that. I thought he
got hit, but leave to Wisconsin three. You'll take fifty
four forty seven. This is as closest Wisconsin's been in
some time.
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Dave gasper here along with Nick bruce Witz after this
Badgers lost to BYU ninety eight to seventy and the
bad Boy Mower's Classic. Just a rough game all around
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for the Badgers. Just trying to watch it here and
watching it live and in person was Nick Osen from
twenty four to seven Sports, who we welcome now into
the J and Ksecurity Solutions Basketball postgame Show. Nick, this
one was pretty rough all around. What's stuck out to
you as the worst part of the performance here tonight
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from Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, guys, you know, obviously a tough one. I will
get into that, Dave, of course, I just want to say,
and it's kind of you know, part of my answer too.
I don't think anybody if you said that the Badgers
lost in this one right going in would have been
a shock. But I think what surprised me a little bit,
and then it was actually echoed very well and strongly
from Nolan Winter and Greg Gard, which I will be
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writing about as well. Was basically Dave that that it
didn't seem like the Badgers fully could respond. You know,
it felt like at times maybe that they were in
like you know, like a boxing match will just make
that parallel, and you know, you look for them to
just kind of keep getting up and keep taking those
punches and then throwing some of their own, right. I
think they did very early on in that second half,
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and I looked at another media member from Wisconsin. We thought, Okay,
you know, this is maybe the potential moment, and then
it was like things kind of spiraled. And so I
think Dave that on top of I'm not sure how
much this is controlled or it was just really a
weird sample size, but the shooting obviously right. I mean
at halftime, I was looking at all these different numbers
and that was like the only glaring difference, which obviously
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played a huge role in tonight's response.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Nick.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
When you look at the passing by the Badgers tonight,
you finished with eight assists. Two of those are a
familiar favorite will Garlock off the bench, like they struggled
to capitalize in any way when it came from moving
the ball and in an offensive set.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, Bruce, you know they they did, and I think that, Look,
I'm not in like full blown worry mode about any
of this, and no one should be, you know, right
right right what you mentioned. But I will say this,
and I'm actually quite impressed with it, even with all
the talent, right and the five stars and the money
talked about with BYU, Like, they are a decent defensive teams,
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and I think that they shut off a lot of
Wisconsin's actions, you know, really what the Badgers were trying
to do. I think actually both teams did you can
job it at the first couple of minutes, but then
obviously Byus went through essentially the whole game, and you know,
like I said, the Badgers couldn't consistently respond. You make
a great point again with it with the being will Garlocks. Now,
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I will say, Bruce, it's just a bit of a counterpoint.
I could think of probably four plays off the top
of my head where there were really good lead passes
and open looks at the cup right like within two
or three feet of the basket that just didn't go down.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
It just felt like if it wasn't that, if it
wasn't created by themselves, the guys just weren't making the shots.
I mean, it's not a product of not not necessarily
finding open looks. It's just like, for whatever reason, unless
it was Nick Boyd slash into the rim or second
chance opportunity, felt like Wisconsin was just not capitalizing on anything.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, Bruce, exactly right. And and I think that is
something you know, it was asked about, of course, as
you'd expect, but that seemed like much less of a
concern to coach Guard and to Nolan went to the
player that we spoke with, just because frankly, I mean,
I'll just add, guys, because you kind of give me
spots to you know, share what we heard from the Prossers,
and Winter said something the effect of, you know, I
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haven't written it out yet, but things like mentally weak,
you know, things like not being able to respond or
continue to fight. Obviously those things now that it's important
to know that if he feels like that was an
issue so early, but obviously that's not something that can
continue with a really good team or a team that
we think could be good to really good. So I
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was impressed about kind of how honest and Blakeney was
about those things. But obviously they need to get cleaned
up very quickly.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Talking about Nick Osen from twenty four to seven Sports,
he is out there in Salt Lake City covering the
Badger's team out here. You know, there weren't a lot
of great performances tonight, Nick, but one of them was
Braiden Carrington fourteen points four of five from three just
eighteen minutes. But what'd you make of what you saw
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from Braiden Carrington here tonight?
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You know, Dave, I'm actually really glad you asked about
him because people will jump to the shooting and of
course eighty percent from three is going to jump off
the page. That's not gonna, you know, usually happen. Obviously,
that won't usually happen for anybody. But I like what
Guard said about him. He said basically he wasn't afraid
of the moment or you know, he kept fighting, and
I would agree. I mean, I told you guys that
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before the season even started that I think he will
always kind of be that guy, that fighter bark, you know,
the energy off the bench, and hey, if he's hitting
shots like that, that's terrific. So what's stood out to me,
David is in a really tough night. He was one
of the positives for the Badgers. I think that that's
very important. I think his experience will continue to play
a role, and I liked some of the defensive moments
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from Alexis bi Alawski's as well. But as Guard talked about,
some of the freshman definitely had some freshman moments.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Tonight, Nick from a basketball fan perspective, because I know
you just you simply love the game, specifically at the
college level, but all levels. Kevin Young the head coach
on the other side, he's a longtime NBA assistant and
he's kind of instilling a little bit of an NBA
culture here at BYU. Is this a flash in the
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pan in your opinion, or do you think that BYU
is kind of on the fast track to being kind
of one of those national contenders on a yearly.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Basis Bruz, That's a great question, And you know, I
don't really have a doubt in my mind, I would say,
especially if if Kevin Young is still here. But I
mean now that nil is fully legal, right, which is
often used as like pay for play and the contracts
and such. BYU has a lot of support that many, many,
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many schools could not get to just with kind of
some of their ties out here. And I don't want
to just say it's because of those things, because you
watch that club. I mean, that's a good basketball team.
It's a really good one. There's a good program under
Mark Cope, and I think that young and kind of
some of what you can do now just in this
day and age, that's probably made it a great one.
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I mean, I know they're ranked, you know, eight or nine,
and I'd say it's probably going to be a consistent
top twelve to fifteen, twelve to twenty program going forward,
just because of what they can have at their hands.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Nick osin twenty four seven Sports. As always, we appreciate
you hopping on the show and we look forward to
talking to you again next week from out there in
San Diego as the Badgers are in the Rady Children's Invitational.
Look forward to talking to you then and also talking
to you on DND on the game at Hope Boy
next week as well.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I can't wait. Guys, Thank you so much. And if
I don't catch you before, Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
Okay, there we go.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Happy Thanksgiving to you and well. Nick osin twenty four
seven Sports follow him on Twitter at the real Nick Osen.
We'll be back to wrap things up from this Badgers
in ninety eight to seventy loss to BYU. On the
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Speaker 6 (34:06):
BOYD wingles just inside the free throw line. It hits
a fourteen foot floater. Boyd to sixteen points ninety the
magic number for BYU you talked about, Butchi to Wisconsin
sixty four.
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Gasper here with you along with Nick Bruswiz, the Badger's
fall to BYU ninety eight to seventy here today and
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the bad Boy Mower's Classic as they got things going
there in Salt Lake City, the home of the Utah Jazz.
They're playing on the Utah Jazz NBA Cup court because
the Jazz have a game there tonight at the Delta Center,
which is why they were kind of rushing through. Chris
Fosters and Brian Butcher's postgame show there that they had
(35:02):
to kind of quick get them through so they couldn't
get Greg guard, but instead they talked with Badger's assistant
coach Joe Kravenhoff. And let's hear what coach Krabnhoff had
to say after this Badger's twenty eight point loss to
BYU b.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
YU knocks off Wisconsin ninety eight to seventy. Today we
are joined by Badger's assistant coach Joe Kravinhawks on the
postgame show. Coach, thanks very much for doing this, and
what are your initial impressions of this game today.
Speaker 9 (35:29):
I think the first thing is obviously it was a
big test for us and we didn't pass it. I
mean that just goes without being said. I'm looking up
at a box score on the on the beam here
and the numbers tell the story. But what we saw
is not where we need to be and where I
think we're gonna continue to work to get to. So
we got a long ways to go, but we learned
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a lot about our team and we didn't like what
we saw, but we know what we got to work on.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
Joe, you look at this team eight assists, only you
guys are averaging eighteen.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
What did b Y you do defensively to kind of.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
Limit the ball movement? And what did you guys do
that you didn't do so well to keep that ball
moving for each other?
Speaker 9 (36:08):
Yeah, I mean I could just say, you know, we
miss shots, but I think the pressure really put us
on our heels that leads to over dribbling. It got
us out of who we been through four games, and
obviously we haven't seen this kind of athlete or this
kind of pressure, so that's hard to emulate. But we
have We've have enough guys who've played in this stage
and played against these kind of opponents. So it's disappointing,
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but it's something that I think we're going to see
a lot of moving forward. So we got to get
a lot better just moving the ball and not over dribbling,
and those will lead to easier buckets. But again, I
thought we had some decent looks, you know, those we
worked all week. We even put a three point an
NBA three point line on the Coal Center floor to
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tell our guys to get inside of that line, but
we just shot them from too deep. But certainly by
you had a lot to do with that.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Joe.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
Last thing, we've got for you, because I know we
got a shorter pre our post game show here you
got get in the wat But defensively, what are some
of the takeaways you take away to kind of teach
your guys to get ready for the next couple of
you guys got coming up in San Diego.
Speaker 9 (37:07):
Yeah, I think one word to kind of talk about
all of it is discipline. I didn't think we were
disciplined enough. We get late into shot clock a couple
of times, you're fouling jump shooters, you're foulling drivers. They
lived at the line, and again credit to BYU, we
haven't seen this yet, but we're much more disciplined team.
We need to be a much more disciplined team defensively
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to keep them off the line and to be able
to become who we need to be defensively, because tonight
was not it. But I think we know exactly what
we're gonna be working on as we head into this week,
and we got another tough opponent coming up on Thursday.
Speaker 7 (37:42):
All right, thanks coach, appreciate getting the locker room.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
We appreciate you.
Speaker 9 (37:45):
Thanks everybody, and happy Thanksgiving coming up and to hang
with us. We're gonna get a lot.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Better, no doubt about that. Coach, Happy thanksgiving to you
as well. He is Badger's assistant coach, Joe Kravinoff joining
us on the Badgers postgame show.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
All right, there was Badger's assistant Joe Krabanhoff talking after
this ninety eight to seventy loss to be Yu and
you know, Nick as it kind of put in there
at the end, like hey, stick with us. This team's
gonna be really good. They're going to figure some things out.
This is a tough loss, but it's also I don't
think it's not an indication that this team is on
(38:20):
any sort of downward trendom. And they've been so good
through the first couple of games. You get your first
real test here this time that they're going to look
to learn from and get better from.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
No doubt.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
And I think it is just a product of Krabanhoff
not being a head coach and certainly being as weathered
and seasoned as Greg gard Is.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
I don't think Greg would have had.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
The urge to try and apologize to the fans and
ensure them that the program, this team is better than
that today.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
I think that goes without being said.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
I think that this performance that is such an anomaly
for this program over the last two seasons. In particular,
you look at how they performed last year, performance offensively,
like this was just not really on.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
The table, like they were terrible tonight. And it's a
hostile environment.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
It's probably easier to play in than where they would
have played at BYU.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
But I just think this is a first time on
the road. People don't realize.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
I don't think if they pay attention to this program,
Wisconsin hasn't even left the state. They played their exhibition
game against Oklahoma advisor for him, that was the farthest
away from the Cole Center they've been all year. So
this is their first road game against maybe the best
team you'll play all year, and they did not play
well enough. I think that goes without being said that
(39:44):
this team is better than what we saw today.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Though we appreciate craving Off.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
He's one of those assistant coaches that absolutely could be
a head coach elsewhere that's just stuck around because clearly
he's passionate about this team.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, this team, this program, and he does a fantastic
job being one of the top assistants there for Greg
Gard and yeah, this game. I mean it used to
be I remember not too long ago where seventy points
from Wisconsin was actually a pretty strong offensive output in
some of these games. I mean, as as we get
in the conference play, I mean, maybe that will you know,
(40:17):
continue to be true because they're not gonna be scoring
ninety every single night. You know, I don't care what
kind of players you got on offense. In college basketball,
you generally don't see that happen all the time. But still, yeah,
not the best performance from Wisconsin here tonight. They just
couldn't get into a rhythm. They just couldn't find a
way to get things going. And it's tough game. Learn
(40:38):
from it and get yourself better prepared for the next
one that you have coming up. When you're gonna take
on Providence on Thanksgiving Day, So right in the middle
of everyone eating their turkey and mashed potatoes and stuffing
and all of that, right there at four thirty, you're
gonna have Wisconsin against Providence. And after that game, you're
(40:59):
gonna have us on the jan K Security Solutions Basketball
postgame show, as we're gonna be with you every single
game of this season. That'll do it for us here today,
I'd like to thank Nick Osen from twenty four seven
Sports from hopping on and joining us. I'd like to
thank our producer Casey James for Nick Bruswitz. I'm Dave Gasper.
(41:20):
Thank you for listening once again. The final score BYU
ninety eight Wisconsin seventy. This has been the jan K
Security Solutions Basketball postgame show.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
Carrie to Barry's three on the left wing the other
Speaker 6 (41:36):
Way and that I'll do it with your final score
BYU ninety eight Wisconsin seventy
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