The "End of an Era" Edition

Swanny thinks college football will miss Lee Corso more than we anticipate. Plus, William Qualkingbush joins the show as we close in on No. 4 Clemson vs. No. 9 LSU.

Episode Transcript

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That's Mets Plumb and aight oh three two two six
seven one oh eight, all right out of the gates.
College football this past weekend, we got the results from Dublin, Ireland.
I would say an upset Iowa State topping Kansas State.
Pretty good ballgame, sloppy, sloppy I think is the best

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way to put it, especially when we talk about the
world of college football and not having preseason games and
in the midst of having watched a bunch of preseason
professional games, I certainly think that, you know, the early
game muffed punt by Kansas State by Wildcats star Dylan

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Edwards certainly was a big part of the loss, not
because Iowa State was able to capitalize on that by
the way they would fumble the ball and not getting
any points off of that first possession by Kansas State. Well,
the turnover by Kansas State on that punt which would
have been Kansas State's first possession. But with Dylan Edwards out,

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Kansas State didn't have one of their top weapons. Offensively,
they look pretty stagnant. And it was amazing to me
because there were a couple of times where Avery Johnson,
their quarterback, when they were down, you know, they bounce
right back and make a big play. Had a couple
of really big touchdowns in the ballgame. Avery Johnson in

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the fourth quarter had a thirty seven yard pass for
a score to tie the game at fourteen. Later, he
would have a sixty five yard score with six to
twenty three left to pull the Wildcasts within three, but
that would not be enough and they could not get
Iowa State off of the field late, and the Cyclones

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moved to one to oh, one to oh in the
Big twelve and Kansas State the first upset of the season.
Kansas State was favored by two and a half going
into that ballgame, final score twenty four to twenty one.
The game also did not live up to the expectations

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of points scored in the over under category, just forty
five points total scored in this game. But it was
it was sloppy. It was sloppy. Rocko Becch was fourteen
to twenty eight one hundred and eighty three yards and
two scores for the winning Cyclones. But what I think

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was so strange about it was how it really felt
like there just wasn't a lot of offensive continuity. And
I couldn't help but imagine what if these two teams
had had some preseason games to kind of get some
of those wrinkles out, some of the fumbles and the

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turnovers and the issues. In the end, incredibly, Iowa State,
who rushed for one hundred and thirty yards and passed
through just one hundred and eighty three got the win.
Kansas State rush for one hundred and ten yards, passing
for two hundred and seventy three, and they come up
short in the game. But the more significant piece for

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them obviously was losing Dylan Edwards and offensively minus him,
I mean, Kansas State, they still put up pretty decent numbers,
but just could not crack through to the end zone.
Kind of a slow, sloppy first game. I mean, that's

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that's all we talk about sometimes with college football, that
first game you just never know. People ask me about Clemson,
people ask me about this LSU game, and the first
thing I will tell you is that, yeah, it's spectacular
that you got this great opener, but nothing, not a

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high ranking, nothing can completely keep you from having some
pretty sloppy play. Both teams with a couple of turnovers.
The ball was loose, the field was beautiful. Laviva Stadium's beautiful.
Great story they told where some of the people that
lived near the stadium, and when I stay near it,

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I mean like right across the street were complaining that
it was blocking the sun as they were building it,
and so they brought down one end of that stadium
to give that neighborhood that community a little bit more
light during the day, but out of the Gates, a
top twenty team in Kansas State takes an l on
the chin and falls to zero to one in conference play.

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Out of the gates in Iowa State, Matt Campbell with
a huge weekend Rocko Betch with three total scores through
for two ran for another and college football is underway
now the tradition rich Atlantic Coast Conference member Stanford also

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had a game this past weekend at Hawaii, and even
though that game started off pretty good for the cardinal
where they had a situation where Iowa, excuse me, Iowa
where Hawaii. I never really noticed that you could mix
up Iowa and Hawaii, but they do. They do have

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some similar verbage in there. Hawaii fair call to a
ball like right at the goal line and at the
one yard line to be to be exact, Stanford led
the game at that point three to nothing, and on
the ensuing snap their quarterback, the Warriors quarterbacks hitting the

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end zone fumbles and Stanford recovers to take a ten
ozero lead with seven to eight remaining in the first quarter.
Here's what the call sounded like on the CBS Sports Network.

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Pounds just to second college start Stanford the hodo in
the end zone. He said, trouble and goes down and
fumbles touchdown. Stafford absolute disaster.

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And the celebration would be short lived for the Cardinal.
Hawaii would score off a six play fifty eight yard
drive to make it ten to seven before the end
of the first quarter. At the half, we would be
looking at a fourteen thirteen game, Hawaii with the lead
after Stanford converted on a forty six yard field goal,

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but the home standing Warriors would complete a nine play
seventy five yard scoring drive to take a fourteen to
thirteen lead into the break. In the third quarter, Hawaii
would get a field goal to make it seventeen thirteen.
In the fourth quarter, Stanford would bounce back, taking a
twenty to seventeen lead on Micah Ford's two yard run.

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It was a twenty play eighty five yard drive they
chewed up nine minutes and thirty seven seconds, but it
would happen far too early in the game. With nine
to forty seven to play, Hawaii would get a ten
play fifty yard drive that finished with a thirty seven
yard field goal with two minutes and one second remaining

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to tie the game at twenty. Stanford with a ball,
the chance to maybe win it with a field goal,
goes three plays, picking up just three yards, taking just
twenty eight seconds off the clock, and they punt the ball.
Hawaii takes it with a minute thirty three and goes

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nine plays fifty two yards and closes the game picking
up the victory where they walk off winner almost identical
to his previous kick, this one from thirty eight yards
out for Conse Matsazawa. Here's the call from CBS Sports Network.
That's a favorite contact and his phone for shore Rich
speed dial.

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Hawking College is the junior college for Matsizawa.

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Here we go a chance to win it, a chance
to walk off. Caleb Freeman is the holder.

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Sam kick is up, thank god, and Hawaii has done it.

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Stanford out of the Atlantic Coast Conference, falls to one.
Now in fairness to Stanford, Hawaii was favored by one
and a half, so, unlike the other contest with Iowa
State and Kansas State, in this one the favorite team
did win. Now. For the other games that took place

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at the Group of four, Power for UNLV held on
to beat Idaho State thirty eight thirty one. Western Kentucky
beat Sam Houston forty one twenty four in Kansas top
Fresno State thirty one to seven. Weird thing watching that

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Fresno State game. Former Clemson Tiger commit, former number one
player in the country coming out of high school, Corey Foreman,
who had committed to play at Clemson then decommitted, ended
up going to Southern Cal. Didn't do a whole lot

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at Southern Cal out of Corona, California. He is now
with Fresno State. They called his name during the game,
and I thought, Man, you just wonder sometimes with these kids,
and like, at least I wonder, like the what if scenarios.
What if that kid had decided that instead of going

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to Southern Cal, what if he had come to Clemson?
What would his career have been? And does Dabos Sweeney's impact,
you know, does Dabos Sweeney have enough of an impact
on players that maybe even a guy like this And
I'm not saying that this guy's a bad person or anything.

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I'm just saying that a guy whose career has kind
of gone this way from Southern Cal to Fresno State,
maybe it goes differently if he arrives in Tigertown. Either way,
LSU will arrive in Tigertown this weekend as the Clemson
Tigers and the Bayou Bengals get ready to kick off
the college football campaign. But there are games before Saturday

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still looming. There are games before Saturday. We'll talk about
some of those coming up in just a little bit.
But the biggest news, perhaps of all, was that over
the weekend, Dabos announced that Clemson's starting running back will
indeed be Adam Randall. And we talked with Facts and

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Childress about that a while back back during the early summer,
and he thought that Adam Randall could be the number
one running back and would be the number one running
back and Dablosweeney taught with us about Adam Randall moving
from wide receiver to running back, and we put that
up on our social media over the weekend. But Sweeney

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said this about Adam Randall in an interview. He said, quote,
We've got four guys and we'll go to battle with them,
but it all starts with Adam. He's the starter. He's
earned that. So Adam Randall, who never really could that's
not fair. Let me make this a fair statement. Adam Randall,
who never really produced at the level that I think

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people would have hoped at Clemson as a wide receiver.
Will now make the transition and will be the star
arding running back for Clemson. And we posed the question
on social media how many rushing yards will Adam Randall
get in his first opportunity at running back as the starter?

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How many yards can he rush for with this opportunity.
Now we'll come back to that in just a minute,
but I want to talk about his numbers statistically over
his first three years at Clemson. First and foremost, Adam
Randall started just one game in twenty twenty two to
twenty twenty three. He had ten receptions his freshman year

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for one hundred and twenty eight yards, no touchdowns. His
sophomore year he started five games, twenty two receptions, two
hundred and fifty yards, no touchdowns. A year ago started
one game, sixteen receptions, one hundred and fifty five yards,
two touchdowns. I mean, Adam Randall in his career seven starts,

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forty eight receptions, five hundred and thirty three yards and
two touchdowns. So he clearly needed a change, and Dabosweeney
approached him about a change, and he was willing to
make that move and to take that risk. And so

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from there he's put his nose to the grindstone and
he has just continued to try to improve and get better.
And now he'll get a chance against a top flight
Southeastern Conference foe. Last season in the opener against Georgia,

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And mind you, I do not believe that this LSU team, Okay,
I don't think this LSU team is better than the
Georgia team that Clemson faced a year ago in the
season in Atlanta, a thirty four to three loss. Remember
the game was six to nothing at the break. I
think that's one thing people do forget about it. But

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the bigger question is rushing yard is for Adam Randall
in this opener Phil MafA in that game sixteen carries
fifty nine yards. Sixteen carries fifty nine yards from MafA,
he led the way for Clemson. Do you think Adam
Randall will have more than fifty nine yards in this opener?

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The year prior to that, Clemson of course, went on
the road to open the season. This is Garrett Riley's
first ball game as the offensive coordinator. Clemson gets beat
shockingly twenty eight to seven in that contest, Will Shipley
rushed for one hundred and fourteen yards. That would be

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an ideal, Like if you could get one fourteen, that
would be amazing. The year prior Clemson up Georgia Tech,
the Tigers stamped them forty one ten. Will Shipley led
all rushers in that game with just forty two yards rushing.
And then going all the way back to the Duke's
Mayo Classic between number three Clemson and number five Georgia

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Big Markeye game just like the one we're witnessing on
Saturday and Death Valley and Jalen Dixon led Clemson in
rushing that game with just ten yards against the Bulldogs.
So it's a wide range, right, ten, fifty nine and fourteen.
What kind of numbers do you think Adam Randall can

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put up in this ballgame against LSU. Kenny hit eighty,
Kenny hit ninety. I can tell you this if he can,
If he hits ninety two, one hundred yards in his
first chance as RB one at Clemon, given his receiving

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numbers all time, I might make the argument that this
guy has been misplaced for quite some time. And what
a story it would be if indeed Adam Randall can
go out there and tote the load for Clemson and
stay healthy and perform. Because granted, outside of Will Shipley

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against Duke in two thousand and twenty three, I mean,
running games in the open, you take Will Shipley's won
fourteen off the board. Phil Maffa had sixty five in
that ball game, you know, and I get it. You
just vanished a guy, You just vanished him from existence.

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But it's not like the numbers have been jumping off
of the page in a lot of these other games
early on in the season at running back, regardless who
was the lead dog man. Looking back at that Duke's
Mayo Classic, I mean, I know dj Uyunglo Lay was
not great by any means, nineteen of thirty seven one

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hundred and seventy eight yards, the interception the pick six
being the difference in that game in the second quarter.
But can we just call out twenty three carries for
two yards offensively, twenty three carries for two yards? I
mean that is atrocious. Lyn J. Dixon won carry ten yards,
Will Shipley four carries for seven yards, Kobe Paces four

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carries for seven yards, dj Uiunglo Lay fourteen carries from
minus twenty two yards twenty three carries two yards in
that Georgia game. Ug Lee, all right, when we come back.
I had a chance over the weekend to watch Not
So Fast my Friend, the special about Lee Corso. Spectacular stuff.
I'll tell you about when we return. I had it

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on a Monday, Clemson's Sports Talk so Man College Game
Day ESPN, gonna be at that Texas Ohio State game.
But over the weekend I had a chance to sit
down and watch the Not So Fast my Friend documentary

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on Lee Corso that was on ESPN. They put that together,
and I do have to say, like, man, you watch that.
It's an hour long. You'll enjoy it. You got time
as we get geared up for this coming weekend and
the huge matchups across the country. But even though we've
known for a while that this was gonna be the

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last college game day for Lee Corso, I have to
say I had a moment while I was watching this
show where I thought, and I know they I know
that they've tried to put Pat MacAfee in a better spot,
bigger spot. This show is gonna be a lot different,

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I think. Unfortunately without Lee Corso and look, we've had
some opportunities over the years where Corso wasn't on the set,
and so maybe that's kind of given us a chance
to have an appetizer, a dash, a smidge and a

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sprinkle of the show without him. But man, what an
unbelievable legacy he leaves behind in this sport. And there
were so many great people, from Tim Brando, who was
the original host, of course he did alongside being O Cook.

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He did it at one time alongside Craig James, and
then ultimately it ends up being Chris Fowler, kirkurb Street
and Lee Corso for many years, and then the additional
names that have come in from Rhyes Davis who now hosted,
Desmond Howard and David Pollock, on and on and on.
There have been a lot of people throughout, but the

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thread that weaves through the entire history of College Game
Day is Lee Corso. And watching that video I did,
I got a little nostalgic, first and foremost just thinking
about all of those Saturday mornings for so many years.

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And it wasn't always a three hour show. It was
a two hour show. It was a one hour show.
Like it grew, but in large part it grew because
of Courso and Corso became much must watch television, and

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then when they took the show on the road, it
became a must see venue to go. And whether they
were doing it outside of a stadium, whether they're doing
it inside of a stadium, whether they were doing it
on Bowmanfield and Clemson, Lee Corso had an unbelievably magical
run at ESPN, And honestly, there is at this point

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in his life, no good way for this thing to
have ended, because if you do it the way we
are currently doing it, there is a ton of sadness
and understanding of his absence. If you do it the
other way, he's not alive anymore. And it's still awful.

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But man, watching all those headgear picks, hearing about his
stories from the time that he played at Florida State
to when he coached at Maryland and Navy and was
eventually the head coach at Indiana and Louisville, and all
of those things that Lee Corso did, all of the
things that helped shape his life and who he became.

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But one of the things he said in the video
that stuck with me was that we're in the entertainment
business and football is just a vehicle for that and
that when he got on set. Initially he was like, like,
Chris Fowler was kind of the upscale businessman, you know,

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dan rather reporting, And quickly he understood that, okay, because
back then I think it may have just been the
two of them doing it. At one point, Chris Fowler
and Lee Corso. This was in the studio, and what
Fowler pretty much realized was it, man, this, this guy

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is doing things a little different than most people would
do it. And so that caused Chris Fowler to adjust.
And at the end of the program they had some
great tributes. I'll play just a second of that for you.
As Kirk Herbstreet and Lee Corso were wrapping up their
tour of the College Football Hall of Fame on August

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the third, was back when they did this, so you
know a little over three weeks ago, herb Street pointed
him into the theater and said, Hey, I think we
got something over here. And it opened with Mike Turko,
and Tarico's statement was so good that I thought, man,
I got to reach out to Mike Turico. So we've
certainly done that. We're gonna also try to get Tim
Brando on the program. As well. But here's the opening

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of that audio of the guys just saying thank you
to Lee Corso.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yo, sweetheart, thank you for having an indelible impact on
my career and my life.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Nobody like you before, nobody like you after.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Life is good because you've been in it. So just
an't have that, just a small sample of that show
and the tributes at the back end of it that
pour in for Lee Corso, it does make this coming
weekend even more bittersweet. We're certainly excited, obviously about Clemson
and LSU and Notre Dame in Miami and Alabama and

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Florida State and the game that Corso will be at
Texas and Ohio State. But I think we'd be foolish
to say that next Saturday, as excited as we will
be about it, that it won't feel incredibly different knowing

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that Lee Corso is not going to be back on
college game Day? Now? Could there be special appearances? Possibly?
I think he lives down in Orlando. If college game
days at a bowl game in Orlando, would it be
monumental to have him show up for a segment? Man,
that would be cool, But at this point not so fast.

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My friend. The leak corso special. The documentary would be
well worth your time. Go check it out if you
haven't had a chance to see it. Yeh, it was
it did man. It Yeah. It also ages me a
little bit. I hate to say that, but it ages
me a little bit. I'm like, God, this guy's been
in my life so I was a teenager and to

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see him hang it up, it's tough. It was tough.
All right. When we come back, we'll getting some of
your texts from Friday, plus something that we just got
during this segment talking about leek Corso stay with us,
rocking and rolling with you on a Monday, all right.
So Friday afternoon, got several texts coming through and did
not get them all in. I tried to get them
in as much as I can. First Clemson, Larry hit

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us up. And Larry was having trouble with his Amazon
Echo device. I won't say the name because it'll trigger it.
I'll say Schlomo. That's what I That's how I helped
my dad with his and and Larry was having the
same problem my dad was a few months ago with
his Amazon Echo. He would say, Shlomo. Play Fox Sports
Radio fourteen hundred and it would play station, but it

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wasn't me. He tried saying, Shlomo play w cos AM,
w COSAM in Columbia.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
Like.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
He tried all different manner of getting the show on Friday,
and he was getting it on his phone, but for
some reason, his Amazon Echo was going to the wrong channel.
Larry and I we just we just finally had to
give it up and say, well, that's it, just not
gonna work. But Larry did say he liked the closing
comments on the show on Friday, So I'm assuming that

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he was tuning in through the iHeart app and not
on his Amazon Echo. It was giving him some trouble.
So you can always listen on your on your iHeart app.
Like Clemson, Larry, whether you're in Greer or White bear Lake, Minnesota.
Am I right? Also, Mac hit us up. I was
talking about Clemson and the expected under totals, and again

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I went through the schedule. Certainly the Tigers could go
twelve and zero. I don't know if I would make
that my quote official prediction of the season, but if
you're looking at it, it's you know, ten and two,
I think is the bad end. Anything worse than that?
You should be incredibly disappointed. But we did hear from
Mac and he was like, Swanny, I feel like you're overreaching.

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He said, think about clemson sweetnesses defensive backfield and lack
of team speed on the in the defensive end. And
so I texted them back. I said, so I should
take the under Mac, and he was like, when are
call ins coming back? I said, Mac, you text me
like double Ow does, and you can be on the

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show anytime you want. Double Ow just texts me. He'll say, Swanny,
only come on the show and I ring him up.
And you and Mac and and Clemson, Larry or anybody else,
You're welcome to do that. Let's see. Nick listening to
the program in Georgia put up a post or texted
me about the fact that South Carolina defensive line coach

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Trevon Robertson had been involved in a car accident, a
pre severe car accident, according to the reports that I saw.
Robertson was traveling in his twenty twenty four Chevrolet Tahoe
when the driver of a twenty fourteen Nissan Pathfinder crossed
over into Robertson's lane and they collided head on. According

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to the reports, the driver of the vehicle of the
Pathfinder did pass away died at the scene. Robertson was
at the hospital in stable condition. They do expect him
to make a full recovery. Certainly, thoughts and prayers to
Robertson and the family of the other individual that was
involved in this tragic accident that took place on Friday.

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I believe it was reading over the statements, but thank
you to Nick for sending us that as well. We
also got a text on Friday from Bryce and Georgia. Sorry, Bryce,
didn't mean to didn't mean to not get to yours either. Man,
I'll even add you to the contact list. He said.
If the Southeastern Conference continues to dominate Clemson or US,

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will coach be on the hot seat. Doesn't hurt our
chances of joining the SEC. I you know, I don't
know what the future is gonna look like, Bryce, in
terms of college football, But dominate US is a tough
word for me to throw in there, especially when you
think about, Yes, I know last season you lost to Georgia,

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and you lost to South Carolina, and you lost to Texas.
Like I get I get that, and that is bitterly disappointing.
But you know, back when Alabama was the behemoth, you
knocked them off a couple of times, and nobody in
the Southeastern Conference was really beating them at that time.
And look, you go into this game against LSU and
take care of business. You go into the end, you know,

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the final game of the regular season, and you beat
South Carolina. I think the thought process that Clemson can't
compete in the SEC is one that would be ill
advised to believe at this point. But I don't know
that it's gonna be the SEC once that time comes.
I think we're still at a point where there's gonna

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be a big shift. But I appreciate you texting us.
I think it's the first text we've ever got from
Bryce listened to us in Georgia. So thank you, Bryce.
All right. As for Lee Corso, which we talked about
in the previous segment, we did have a couple of
texts come in. Randy listening to the program in Charlotte, said,
Swanee gonna be emotional seeing coach Corso's last game day.

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The man is college football Saturdays, fitting that it's number
one versus Number two Texas and Ohio State on the
biggest stage now that's a fair point. That's a fair point, Randy, Like,
if you're gonna put this thing, if you're gonna put
this thing in a a matchup, Like when we were

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talking about the games at the beginning, we talked about
would it be Clemson in LSU, Could it be at
Florida State, his alma mater against Alabama, Like we talked
about the places, and we certainly knew Texas and Ohio
State would be there. But the fact that those two
teams end up number one and number two, and I
know the one poll has it one in three, but
I mean still, you're talking about two of the top

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teams in the country. So that's a solid point, Randy.
And then Melissa says Corso's last ride. Gotta love it.
He's put on so many mascot heads over the years,
and now he gets to go out with the biggest
game of the season. I hope he picks the wrong
team one last time, just for old time's sake. That's

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pretty good, Melissa, that's pretty good. Yeah. Remember it was
like for a while, for a while, it was like
cool Corso picked us, Yes, and then it turned at
one point into like the what would they call it
the the not Sports Center, Jinks, Sports Illustrated, The Sports

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Illustrated Jinks Courso pull out like a Clemson head before
it beginning going no, no, don't do it, Courso and
he pulled the hat out. So yeah, it's gonna be
gonna be a really really emotional, I think show for

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ESPN on Saturday with with Corso's Last Ride. And I
wonder how much of that three hour show he'll be
a part of because for so many years recently he's
kind of been on the set, then off the set,
then back on the set, then off the set. I
don't know what kind of timeline he can work or
how much time he can put in. But yeah, Lee

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Corso's last ride, as Melissa said, coming up this Saturday,
and after watching that ESPN tribute to him, as I
mentioned earlier, Man, it was it was emotional. It was
really good. All right, we'll put a ball on hour
number one right after this final seven of our one
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in store. So when you go downtown Clemson this weekend,
go to Alumni Hall. Let him know we sent you
save some money, especially if you're a Clemson student, faculty member,
or in the military. All Right, we did get one
more text over the break from Tyler in Anderson, South Carolina.
He says, coach Corso has been part of my saturdays

(35:55):
as long as I can remember. Gonna miss him saying
not so fast, my friend. Anytime someone picked against Clemson,
say college football won't be the same or excuse me,
won't feel the same without him. Yeah, you know, I
started thinking about that during the during the show. I
don't like I've got all these great sound bites and

(36:17):
sound drops of anytime somebody makes a mistake or anytime
somebody does something wrong. I've been doing it for how
many years now thirteen, and I don't have a not
so fast, my friend. I don't have a single Lee
Corso sound drop that is ridiculous. That is ridiculous, and

(36:38):
so we're going to we're gonna rectify that situation a sap.
I gotta make sure. Matter of fact, I'm gonna do
it today. I'm gonna put some new sound bites up
so that even if Lee Corso's not on game day,

(36:58):
I can still give a not so fast, my friend.
I mean, I've got some sound bites that mean similar
things to not so fast, my friend.

Speaker 6 (37:07):
Well, sir, while I may not agree with what you say,
I'll defend to the death you're right to say it.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
That would be one. Here's another. I'll there you fill
my head with such a some propaganda. But both of
those are from family guy. From this point forward, we're
gonna have a not so fast my friend. I don't
know what else. What else does he say? I know
he's sweetheart. He likes to use the word sweetheart a lot.

(37:35):
But not so fast, my friend. He points that Tykwonderoga pencil.
As a matter of fact, they didn't mention this in
the in the show, but did you know that Lee
Corso is like a part of that company? Did we
ever talk about that? He is the director of business

(37:59):
of em the director of business development for ty Konder Roga,
the pencil that he carries. I mean, I don't know
how much you make from that, but certainly made the
pencils popular. And he had remember he would have a
double ended two erasers, an eraser on both ends. But

(38:21):
that's Lee Corso and man, it's going to be as
several of you have noted, certainly as I talked about
here at the beginning of the show today or not
the beginning of the show, but you know in the
second segment, this is the last ride, the last rodeo,
the last hurrah. And I feel I feel thankful, for

(38:47):
one that Clemson's got a night game so that I
can really lock in and see all of that program,
so I can hear the entire show. And I'm sure
they'll be a lot of tributes. I'm sure there'll be
a lot of tributes. But if you didn't watch not
so fast, my friend. The documentary that ESPN put out,
it's worth watching. And speaking of worth watching, Clemson also

(39:12):
put out a documentary, Brotherhood in the Trenches. Of course,
I was a little bit under the weather last week
and on Friday, kind of battling through and I honestly
can't quite recall if I mentioned this here on the
show or not. But we put out a story about
Tristan Lee, and the thing I will say about Tristan

(39:35):
Lee that truly blows my mind is that I think
I and a lot of people misevaluated him because he
didn't initially pop as a five star. And that video
would be worth sitting down and watching. I'm telling you,

(39:57):
Brotherhood in the Trenches. It's free, It's on YouTube, is
not on Clemson. Plus, I don't have it behind a paywall. Look,
I am a supporter of paywalls. I have one on
my website if you would like to support as you
can sixty three dollars and seventeen cents for one year
of coverage of your tigers. That's right, game Cox, I

(40:18):
said it sixty three seventeen.

Speaker 6 (40:20):
So you could continue to peek over the fence at
the best radio showing the.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Naked the late great Cleveland man there. But this documentary
was so good and I just can't get over. As
a matter of fact, I texted it to a couple
of friends, a couple of family members, and I said, look,
go watch this. You will not be disappointed. And to
a person, they one thanked me after they watched it.

(40:48):
And number two, a couple of them said, I had
no idea about Tristan Lee's story. And number three, my
sister said this to me. She said, well, I guess
I'm gonna be watching the offensive line, and you know, yeah,
that's a position. It's a thankless job, like being the
offensive lineman. First off, not only are you probably three

(41:10):
hundred bills right number two, I mean it feels like
most of the time when somebody talks about you, it's
only because you got a holding pillote. Now, every once
in a while, yes, you'll get a guy Blake Miller
or somebody off the edge. It'll just mow some cornerback,
gobble up some linebacker and you're just blown away by

(41:32):
like their sheer, size and strength and all that stuff.
But if we're being realistic, most of the time, if
you hear number seventy one Tristan Lee and you're inside
death Valley, that's not a good thing. You know. Dale
Gilbert doesn't say, and Ada Brando races into the end zone,

(41:56):
touchdown Clipson, Tristan Lee leads the way. That's not what happens.
But let Addam Randall break off a touchdown run against
l s U as a starting running back and have
a holding penalty holding and then trusted Lee's gotta uh
hear the announcer or the referee announce it to the crowd. Yeah,

(42:18):
that's a painful position. Wim qwalking Bush around the band
game week, Baby, stay with us.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
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Speaker 3 (43:07):
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William Qualkinbush on the guest line on a Monday, qualk
talk to me, big guy. It's college football season.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Twenty It is.

Speaker 7 (43:54):
College football season. I know we got in uh what
I would call a reasonable fact simile. Last week. But
my goodness, what we are staring down the barrel of
is one on the great opening weekends in.

Speaker 6 (44:06):
The history football, and I cannot wait.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Yeah. Look, and I know it certainly starts for Tiger
fans in Death Valley, but man, there's a slate of games.
But I want to go back to a post that
you put up on Saturday in the midst of that
Iowa State Kansas State game, and I felt similarly to
your thoughts on it that like that game was a
microcosm of why we need preseason football collegiately. It was

(44:33):
so sloppy early on, and not just because of the
conditions of the weather, but I really felt like because
it's the first time those teams have really gone full
throttle since their bowl game.

Speaker 6 (44:46):
Yeah, I mean, to me, it makes too much sense
to try to figure out a way to get some
good on good, to get people exposed a little bit,
to acclimate it a little bit, to be a hit,
to be, you know, to the the chess match that
comes with another team, et cetera, to executing in those environments.
Think about this. Even in the NFL, they have preseason games,

(45:07):
so they also have joint practices, right, So whereas in
college football, you know, they're practicing against each other for
a month, with literally they're not seeing anybody else. In
the NFL, you get a couple of different looks of
other people, and I think it does it ramps up
the ability to expose people who maybe don't belong to ransom,

(45:28):
the ability to expose issues in your in your calling
and your rotations and like all of that stuff when
you're going against somebody else. I think sometimes the comfort
level that you have with yourself can lead to not
just the physical errors that we see, but also mental things,
and you just you get sort of comfortable and then
you have to sort of try your best to finagle

(45:50):
a situation where where it becomes like like you know,
mentally taxing or physically taxing on people. I just I
think gain type situations. There's no substcute for that. And
we literally don't do it in the spring, and we
literally don't do it in August. And we're asking these
athletes to come and bring their best, you know, on

(46:10):
week one of the season in many cases against peers
or it's very good teams, and that's just not realistic.
Now I haven't said all that, it doesn't mean it's
a year. The disadvantage if you just you know totally
what your pants in certain situations look. I think the
best argument for it is actually the fact that there
were four fumbles, all lost in the first half. I

(46:30):
might say, well, fuck, it was pouring down a ray
in the in the Kansas State, I would say, game okay.
Well then why were there no bumbles in the second half?
Why was all the bad ball handling? And why were
all those turnovers early in the game. The answer is,
because you get acclimated and you start playing a little better.
You understand what it takes. If you would, just if
it's not the first time, we're getting a cleaner brand

(46:52):
of football first. It also my opinion, this is something
that I'm very passionate about that other people might not
care about, and likely the powers that be in major
college football aren't that passionate about it. But I think
preserving the FCS FBS games that I believe are going
to go away in very short order is important. From
making those an exhibition where you charge a few dollars

(47:15):
if you send the proceeds or portion of the proceeds
at the check to the other school, I think that
is a very very good idea. It keeps you from
having a bear of the run of a cost of
an exhibition. But also you know you're you're you're helping
out your SCS counterparts, and for school like Concidence, it's
about helping out schools in the States without having a

(47:36):
plan as one of your twelve games. So I think
it checks a lot of boxes that we're trying to
check in college football. But man, the sloppingess for the
early game on Saturday, I think I think it perfectly
ulsrair to why we need this just from the on
field part of it.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Qualk a lot to get to with you today, obviously
with the kickoff of college football, the SEC announcing they're
going to nine games, But I want to begin with
with Lee Corso and this weekend I watched the special
that ESPN put together Not So Fast, my Friend, and
the thing that I really kind of took away at

(48:13):
forty eight years old, how much of my life Lee
Corso has been a part of my sports experience. And
I'm gonna be honest, there have been great national announcers
that have retired, et cetera over the years, but I'm
not sure there's ever been one for me that hit
me the way watching Lee Corso in that that final

(48:33):
episode that ESPN put out about him did because man,
he really has been a formative piece in my college
football experience. What are your thoughts on this weekend being
his final weekend? And I think we're gonna miss him
more than we know quite frankly, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (48:49):
I think we are too. I mean I think I think,
first of all, I was very well done by ESPN.
I thought it was. I thought it was incredibly good.
The wrong motion of Kirk Herb Street was I mean,
it's just it tore me up, man. And and you know,
I actually was talking to somebody at church yesterday about
you know how helping people age gracefully is something that

(49:11):
is very hard. It's hard to do it. I mean,
it's it's a big part of like church life where
you you know, you've got people who are aging and
you got to help him great age your parents and
things like that. The way Kirk Kerb Street, for all
the things people would piss off about him, the way
he has helped Leek orso age publicly, which is not
a graceful thing to do. Uh, I think I think

(49:32):
it is a it is a testament to how we
should do that. And and uh, I think that shows
up and how much he he cares for for Leek Orso,
and how much leek Orso cares for him. I think
that entire cash really respects him. But I think there's
a deeper love, uh there with with Kirk that I
just I was just gripped by totally gripp by. But

(49:54):
you're right. I mean, I've said as many times, you're
not replacing him. You can't do it. First of all,
he comes into the media in nineteen ninety five. You're
looking for your your your sort of clown, and he's,
you know, Pat McAfee. It's, in my opinion, is the
replacement for Corso. He's a clown. Lee Corso is a clown.
I mean, you know, it's interesting that we have a

(50:15):
show where a former coach puts on a mascot, had
to make picks and interacts with animal mascots on the set, right,
and people think Pat McAfee is too silly for the show.
I don't want to be like folks. It's always been
a silly show. There's always been a silly aspect to
the show. And Lee Corso brought that to me. The

(50:37):
thing that is different about Corso and McAfee and you
know Barstool with their partship with Box and Portnoy and
all these like what everybody's trying to do is that's
like a very targeted silliness and almost it's almost like
for business reasons. Lee Corso's silliness was innocent, totally innocent. Now,

(50:58):
I never did it for free, but that that caricature
that he is, that shick that he has, it is
so innocent. And in a day and age where college
football is so corporatized and it's been so so captured
by business interests and things like that, and even you
know it's it's the playoff and it's it's incredibly serious business. Now,

(51:20):
the fact that you had somebody who did not take
it seriously is very important and did not take it
seriously in a way that's endearing and not the way
Jimmy that we get annoyed and say, why are you
studying more film today? What a ridiculous take. You know,
it is silliness that is supposed to be silliness, And
for that I appreciate Lee, course of because I'm not
sure anybody's gonna be able to do that like him

(51:42):
ever again.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
William Qualkin Bush on Twitter at qualt and talk every
day noon until three o'clock out of bounds with qualking
bin one though five to five the roar in the Upstate.
All right, let's talk about the Southeastern Conference. The news
that came out they're gonna go to nine conference games. Quawk.
I know at the ACC kickoff Commissioner Jim built So
the ACC said that these leagues are constantly communicating about,

(52:04):
you know, what they're gonna do. How big of a
surprise do you think this was was a surprise at all?
And what are the ramifications long term for matchups like
Clemson in LSU next season when they're supposed to face
off in baton Rouge.

Speaker 6 (52:20):
You know, I've heard this said about politics that sometimes
if you say something really crazy, then the last crazy
thing you said seems normal and everybody agrees with it.
I actually think that's what is happening here, because the
Big Ten came out with their twenty four twenty eight
teaperposals for the playoffs, which is asonine. I mean, these
these are asenine suggestions, but the nine game conference schedule

(52:43):
is not asenine in relation to that, and so I
think the SEC have been hesitant to do it. They said, okay, Now,
what they've also done is they have made a requirement
that you've got to play one game from outside of
the SEC in a power conference. That's my major problem
with going to nine games from the SEC, which is

(53:04):
what do you do about the teams that have natural
rivals in the ACC? Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, and Kentucky
have all been sort of the flying the ointment where
they're like, hey, where already basically playing nine and those
teams a lot of times they're playing ten because they
schedule another year, Like South Carolina has scheduled two major

(53:26):
Power conference opponents out of conference at Queening Clinton and
somebody else right almost every year like twenty thirty to
thirty one. So to me, the Clinton LSU type games
are going to go away. But the good news is
that the rivalries that you have are not going away.
And if you don't have a rival outside the conference,
it does give you that opportunity to be able to,

(53:48):
you know, go to a Chick fil A Classic, or
you know, to go down the Camping World in Orlando,
or to go to Dublin and play whoever you want,
and that's still be fine, becau as it falls under
the realm of under the realm of your your one
non conference game. It also playcates the Big Ten, you
know who has been making ridiculous arguments about how easy

(54:10):
the SEC schedules are, where most SEC teams are playing
the same number of power games as Big Ten teams.
That was always a silly argument, but like I said,
it feels like the Big Ten this entire off season
has just been making silly, terrible arguments, to the point
that at some point you're gonna say, okay, fine, just
stop saying stupid stuff, really acting on stuff, and we'll
do like one of your things. And I think this

(54:32):
is kind of what this is. And it does put
pressure on the ACC squany, you know, to go further
about what does this means in the future. The AEC
is the only league that doesn't have nine. It feels
like if they want to be a part of whatever
comes next, you're gonna play non conference games. I don't
know I could do that with seventeen teams. But as
one ad sei and a story that I read, we
have the smartest IQ or the highest IQ schools in

(54:53):
the power conferences. I think we'll figure it out.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
We'll figure it out one way or the other again,
in some way, shape or for I'm sure Notre Dame
will also likely be involved in that with the Atlantic
Coast Conference again, William Qualkinbush with us year on the program,
because I would imagine qualk before we kind of advance
to Clemson LSU, I would imagine a matchup with Notre
Dame becomes not desirable for those other conferences that are

(55:19):
playing nine games, right, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (55:21):
That's right now. I would say this too. You know
that Notre Dame Clemson thing. I'm curious to know what
happens with that. One of the proposals that I've seen
floated out there, not any serious way, but just people
thinking out loud about how the ACC could do this. Right,
it's to make that Notre Dame game sort of a

(55:41):
ninth conference game. And if you're Clemson, if you're Miami,
if you're Florida State, if you're part of that agreement
where Notre Dame is playing the bigger brands every year,
then you are going to probably want to do that.
You're probably not gonna want to put yourself at some
sort of a disadvantage in that way because you're playing
Like if Clemson is playing eight acc games Notre Dame
in South Carolina, they are now at a disadvantage, especially

(56:04):
if they're gonna you know, if they're gonna get another
they want to do another cool game or something like that.
To me, Notre Dame South Carolina match like, that's that's
what you want to do. It does take some creativity out.
Like the Clinton bands are alive. We've never played Florida,
we never played Tennessee, we never do this and that.
All the matchups that you dream about that you've never seen,

(56:24):
but that could probably happen. Like I said, those are
probably going away at least until we do the breakoff
and things change, in my opinion for the better for
everybody else. When you sort of have everybody who's at
that level playing each other until that point, I think
Clinton's scheduling creativity is limited, I think for some very
good reasons.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
All Right, final couple of things, Big Game under the Lights,
Death Valley, LSU and Clemson. Qualka is this thing. I'm
not gonna ask you for a prediction. Obviously, it's a Monday.
I wouldn't get you that far out in front of it.
But as this this game gets closer and closer, has
anything changed in your mind significantly about what you expect

(57:06):
to see on Saturday?

Speaker 6 (57:08):
You know, my mind has turned to two thousand and eight,
where Cleinson had really good skill, maybe not even better
skill than Alabama. But the main disadvantage that Cleinson had
was at the line of scrimmage in that neutral play
game of Alabama. That was really the beginning of the
end of the Tommy valdenarra. If you don't want to say,
you could say the two thousand and seven Boston cop game,
but I'm gonna army gratis and say two thutan eight Alabama.

(57:30):
I was there in person. It was every single snap.
Clemson is at a physical disadvantage relative to relative to Alabama.
And I don't see how, particularly with its defensive line
against LSU's offensive line has been remade in the portal
with two very young tackles. I do not see a

(57:51):
single way that Clemson does not dominate the line of
scrimmage against LSU. I just can't. I can't see how
that not the case. And so because of that, I,
like I said, I just think it's very difficult to
see an avenue where LSU prevails in the game. If
line the scrimmage are the most important thing, if tough

(58:12):
yardage is the most important thing, then that's gonna be
the thing that rules the day. I think this is
the only game on Clemson schedule where Clinton will be
at a speed netcuse mean a speed athleticism disadvantage to
its opponent. I think LSU's got a lot of speed.
I really like the receiver room. I think you've got

(58:32):
a quarterback that can deliver the ball. I think the
outside in terms of corner in safety, LSU's very good
there too. I just think Clinton's not gonna be able
to win this with their friensity catching dogs like I
think they'll be able to win the vast majority of
their games, but they can win this game at the
line of scrimmage. And we will know after this game.
In my opinion, whether Clemson has a chance to be

(58:54):
national championship good. Not that they can't improve over the
course of the season, but that if they are able
to do what I think they should be capable of
doing in this game against LSU on their home field,
then I think you can extrapolate that over most every
game and feel like this is going to be a
successful season if they can't. And I think we had
to rewrite the expectations for this team because they're not

(59:17):
as dominant on the offensive and defensive lines as they
need to be.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Well, Adam Randall named court, excuse me, running back number
one for Clemson. He'll be the starter against LSU, assuming
everything stays healthy for him between now and kickoff. And
you know, I look back at his stats offensively as
a wide receiver just to kind of just see how
it went. And I'm sitting here wondering looking back at it. Man,

(59:43):
is it possible that this guy was just kind of
mislabeled his whole career? Maybe just baby, he should have
been a running back the whole time.

Speaker 6 (59:51):
I mean it's possible. Look to me, it's one of
those things like Brishard Smith for SMU wide receiver turned
running back. The guy as a what a key onder
yard season or something. I mean, sometimes that has happens.
You know, you see some skills for guys and look,
sometimes it's born out of frustration. Look, if if big
Beasily could play tight end, he wouldn't have been a
first round pick. Right, it's the fact that he couldn't

(01:00:13):
play tight end, and they just kept trying. They tried
him at fullback, they try them a linebacker. They shot
him all these places, and he put them on the
edge and he clicked. Sometimes it just happens because you're
frustrated that you're not getting the most out of a guy.
And what Davos Sweeney said, and I think this is
a very interesting perspective what he said last year is
we realized and maybe maybe it happened, you know that
kick return in the SMU game, Maybe it happened before that.

(01:00:35):
Maybe it's something they've been talking about. But the things
we like about Adam Randall moster after he gets the football.
You can't play that guy at receiver anymore. Once you
have that statement, you can't do that because most of
the receiver position happens without the ball in your hands
and in preparation for getting the ball to me. That's
what they did is they did sort of an assessment
of we want to find a way to use this guy,

(01:00:57):
how can we use this guy, and how can we
use it in the context of making our team better,
And they found a potential match. Now I'm still a
little worried about durability. Adam Randall has been an injury
in timing. It's one of the reasons you haven't developed
it because he has not been available, not this for games,
but also he's mispracticed time and things like that. So
I'm a little curious if he can stay healthy, getting
beat up and bruised, even at two hundred and thirty

(01:01:18):
five pounds, more so than he would outside at wide receiver.
But you know, we may be looking back and saying
this is one of the strokes of genius. We may
be looking back with deep frustration again at Adam Randall's
inability to click at the end of the year. I
think it is one. It is dem most fascinating thing.
I mean, he's one of the keys to the type
of season in Clempson.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Is gonna have again follow him on Twitter at qualt
Talk every day noon until three o'clock. Out of bounds,
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in the Upstate qualk be good, my man, Thanks.

Speaker 6 (01:01:47):
Thanks Swamie. Always gonna be with it, big go.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
That's William Qualkin this year on a Monday afternoon, getting
you ready for Clemson and LSU Saturday night under the
lights Death Valley. Catch that game on ABC as your
home standing. Tigers are favored by four points heading into
the opener with a fifty seven point five over under

(01:02:13):
on the board. All right, when we get back, some
more conversations about Adam Randall being named running back one
entire town. Stay with us Clemson Sports Talk on Monday.
That was William Qualkinbush before the break eight three four
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You could be a part of the program anytime, anyplace, anywhere.

(01:02:37):
Josh hit us up and he said, Randall at RB one.
I love it. Swanny. Dudes built like a tank and
has the speed from his wide receiver days. Can't wait
to see him play now, I'm with you. And then
Brad and Columbia says Clemson naming a converted wide receiver
they running back one just shows how thin the depth

(01:02:57):
chart must be. Good luck running between the tackles in
the SEC opener. Dang Brad off the top rope. All right,
talking about college football. By the way, appreciate the text
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(01:03:18):
We'll get you in tomorrow show. That's how it works.
But taking a look at the world of college football
this week again, we had the five course appetizer over
the weekend. The big story Iowa State over in Dublin,
beating Kansas State a little upset twenty four to twenty one.

(01:03:40):
Then Stanford falling on a walk off field goal to
Hawaii twenty three to twenty. But Thursday, just a couple
of days from now. I don't want to get too
giddy about it, but we got seventeen games coming up Thursday,
that's right, one seven seventeen. Starting at five point thirty,

(01:04:02):
it'll be number twenty five Boise State at South Florida
on the ESPN. Boise State was in the College Football
Playoff last year as a top four seed. They are
favored by six and a half. At six o'clock on
the Big Ten Network, Rutgers will host Ohio. Rutgers is
favored by about two touchdowns a little more than two

(01:04:24):
touchdowns at six o'clock as well on ESPN plus, Bowling
Green will host Lafayette. Then at seven o'clock on the
ACC network. Great rivalry, NC State host East Carolina Scully
Nation rolling into Carter Finley Stadium. The wolf Pack twelve
point favorites Thursday seven o'clock on the ACC Network over

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East Carolina. Also at seven, UCF host Jacksonville State and
Delaware host Delaware State. Also at seven, it'll be Louisiana,
Monroe and Saint Francis facing while Akron hosts Wyoming. All
those games are on ESPN Plus. Then at seven thirty,

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the Southeastern Conference officially gets underway as Missouri takes to
the field. They will host Central Arkansas. That games on
the SEC network at seven thirty. Duke at seven thirty
will host Elon at Wallas Wade Stadium. That's on ESPN
Plus and the ACC Network Extra. Oklahoma State will host

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U T Martin at seven thirty on ESPN Plus, and
then at eight o'clock on FS one it'll be Minnesota
the Golden Gophers hosting Buffalo. Also at eight on ESPN Plus,
Houston hosts SF Austin, and at eight thirty it'll be
UAB hosting Alabama State on ESPN. At nine, Cincinnati and

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Nebraska will play in Arrowhead Stadium. Nebraska's favored by six
and a half It's got me wondering, did I mention
are there any other games that are on neutral sites?
I'm just looking here. I don't think so. Anyway, not
a big deal. Wisconsin at nine o'clock on the Big

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Ten Network hosts Miami of Ohio, and then at ten
o'clock the nightcap on Thursday, San Diego State will host Stonybrook.
So those are your contests coming up on Thursday. A
couple of ACC schools playing. I mean, if you ask me,

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there are three games to watch on Thursday. South Florida
and Boise State just top twenty five Boise State a
team that people think can make it back to the
College Football Playoff. North Carolina State and East Carolina because
that's like the Hatfields and the McCoy's to a degree.
And it's just that I think the NC State kids,

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I said this earlier this summer, fair or foul, most
of those kids probably couldn't have gotten into North Carolina
or Duke or Wake, and the East Carolina kids probably
could barely get into inca state. I'm just assuming. I
hate to step on East Carolina, but I think that's

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why it's a little bit of a rivalry like the
North Carolina State guys know that if they hadn't made
it to North Carolina State, they'd be at East Carolina.
I think that's kind of how that rivalry works. I
think that's why it works. That could be way off.
I mean, my brother in law did go to East Carolina.
I could hear about this after the show, but I

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think that's why it's a bit of a rivalry. Let
me be clear, own like, there are people who chose
to go to East Carolina that could have gone to
North Carolina or a Duke. There are some people who
chose to go to NC State that could have gone
to North Carolina or a Duke. But there are a
lot of people at North Carolina State in East Carolina

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that couldn't go to Duke in North Carolina. And I
would venture to guess that there are plenty of people
at North Carolina or Duke they could have gone to
East Carolina or North Carolina State, but maybe just had
the opportunity to go to North Carolina or Duke. But
I'll leave it at there. So I think the Boise
State South Florida the game at five thirty on ESPN.

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I think the East Carolina at NC State game on
the ACC Network at seven, and then I think the
Nebraska at Cincinnati game at nine o'clock on ESPN. I
think those are the three games to check out on Thursday.
And oh, by the way, we're not even going to
talk about this until later in the week. There are

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also some Friday games, so seventeen games looming on Thursday,
and then I think eleven games if my memory serves
me correct, on Friday, so twenty eight games betwixt now
and kick off of Texas and Ohio State in that

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huge marquee opener at noon on Fox to get our
day rolling on Saturday. So we'll talk about all of
it as we get closer and closer, but I do
think there are three games at least worth having on
in the background at your house for sure. If you've
been awaiting college football for months and months, all right,

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we hit a quick break if you missed it earlier.
I talked about the what I think was an incredible
series by ESPN. Not so fast, my friend, the Lee
Corso story. We'll talk briefly about that when we get
back for those of you just joining the program, and
I'll see if you feel like I do. And we
did have some text on this earlier. I think missing

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Lee Corso is going to be a bigger deal than
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we talked with Kwalk earlier about Lee Corso and his
impact and the it's the nature of Corso's retirement, and

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he certainly has worked longer than most. I mean, he's
ninety years old. The time is right. I kind of
wish it would have been a situation where you're concluding
the year or season with him and not just starting
this week. They didn't have college game Day this past week.

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It was a little studio show with I think Rhys
Davis and EJ. Manuel and Roddy Jones. But all that
being said and all that out there, I think one
of the things that will be most noted is that
the segment where they make the picks at the end

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was almost must see television just because of Lee Corso.
Like you can listen to any old Yahoo make their
prediction on games, that's great, but there was always something
about the guest picker being there beside Lee Corso and

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Corso giving sage advice of great pick, great pick to
the pencil pointing not so fast, my friend, and I
think that's what is going to be missed now. Granted,
ESPN's College Game Day has done a tremendous job with
creating that atmosphere and the excitement around the field goal

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competition that they have. That to me has ratcheted things
up in the middle of that program, where I would
make an argument that for a while, especially in a
three hour show, you could not pay attention to game
Day if you didn't want to. And then the second,

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you know, say eleven forty five ish, when you know
they're about to start, you go man, I gotta turn
on the television. I gotta see what happens with Lee
Corso and all those picks. But yeah, I think he's
going to be missed a lot. I don't think those
last segments will be the same. And I think it
is going to feel quite empty, to be honest with you,

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when the final pick is made by whomever makes it
next weekend, not this coming weekend, next weekend and there's
no Lee Corso, like I truly believe that we are

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going to feel a collective letdown in that moment. I
think you're gonna walk away. Even though there have been
years where Lee hadn't been there or miss shows because
of health reasons, et cetera, et cetera, or the COVID year,
I still think when it's that final person that makes
a pick and you're not going to the headgear pick,

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I think it is going to feel empty in some
respects A zero three, four five, zero zero eighty six.
That is the text line and the phone line and
again the clips of Tigers media schedule for this week.
Dabo Sweeney will have his radio show this evening. That's

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number one, so Dabo Sweeney's Tiger Calls or or whatever
they're calling it now, I don't I don't think they're
calling that tiger calls anymore because he doesn't take calls.
Let's see what are they calling it, Tiger Hour with
Dabo Sweeney at eight o'clock tonight on one of five
to five The Roar and on affiliated radio stations. Then

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tomorrow you'll get select players, Dabo Sweeney defensive. Actually, let's
see Dabo Sweeney, then Tom Allen and get Riley and
select players. Then on Wednesday, we'll also get a chance

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to hear from select players, and we'll get a post
practice audio from Dabo Sweeney and that will be our
final availability with coach Sweeney this week, that Wednesday post practice.
So that's what you'll that's what we will be looking
at in terms of the schedule this week for Clemson

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football as they get ready for their matchup in the
season opener against LSU. And I would venture to guess,
and you can correct me if you think I'm wrong
on this, but I think if we were ranking the
games in Week one and you took you took your

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thought of being you know, a Clemson fan or South
Carolina fan out, it feels to me like this game
would be ranked as the second most significant game of
the weekend. And I get it, like a part of
that is the fact that these teams are certainly both

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ranked in the top ten, and you don't really have
that type of matchup out there other than number one
versus number two. But you still, I guess technically that
Notre Dame Miami game is a top ten matchup. That's Sunday.
I think that would probably be, in the mindseye of
most people, the third best game out there, and then

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if you get a little further down the list, the
fourth best contest coming up this weekend. Game cock fans,
it may very well involve South Carolina and Virginia Tech.
I think that game's gonna be more competitive than Alabama

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at Florida State. I think Alabama's gonna go in and
put some on Florida State. The turpid time won't take off.
I mean, that's kind of the way. I mean, I don't.
I think it's going to be what George is gonna
do to Marshall. Right, the Bulldogs, you are like thirty
nine and a half point favorites, But I think Alabama's
gonna go in there and just punch Florida State right

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in the mouth. I think South Carolina's involved in certainly
one of the top five games this weekend and maybe
number four. I think it's a big weekend for the
Palmetta State in terms of competition on the gridiron. We
hit a quick break, we'll come back. We'll put a
bow on the Monday edition. Keep it locked.

Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
What have you done for me lately? It's a fair question.
Just don't lose sight of the bigger picture. Don't forget history.
Look you for us at Clemson. The answer to the
questions what have you done for me lately? And what
have you done?

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
Always are the same.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
We win.

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
Final segment on a Monday game week College Football around
the Bin Tomorrow we'll hear from Brian Kelly. He actually
had this press conference today down in Baton Rouge as
the Tis get ready to venture east to face your
Tigers in your Death Valley. The first time these two

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teams have ever faced off on a home field in
a home field situation, and I gotta say it's one
of those games, you know. William Qualkinbush brought this up
earlier with the Southeastern Conference scheduling and the changing of
that I mean we always during sort of the downtime,

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talk about those matchups. You'd love to see Clemson at
Southern cal or Clemson at Florida, games that many of
us have never witnessed with our own eyes. And with
the SEC joining the Big Ten and the Big twelve
and everybody going to nine conference games, I mean, unless

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we just get rid of conference championship games and add
an ext like that, I just it's hard to fathom
how you're gonna get a bunch of cross conference play.
And if you've been listening to this show for any
amount of time, you know that's one of my biggest
criticism about this sport. This sport's biggest flaw to me

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is that you don't play more people from outside of
your conference, that you just assume that certain teams are
great because of who they play in their own league.
My assumption is that if you don't play more teams
from outside of your conference, we don't get a real

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read on who you are. And look, I think there's
confirmation bias all over the place. Like if you think
that the Southeastern Conference is the best league, and then
teams in the Southeastern Conference go out and beat another team,

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everybody quickly wants to shout, oh, I'm mart.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
Oh, I'm just mart. Hey tem Marqui, I mean he's
a rch.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
But then if you flip it and that team loses,
and and you go, well, I told you that playing
in a bubble doesn't give you a great idea of
who your team is, people will say, yeah, but that's
just one off. That's just a one off. Swanee, wrong, sir, wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
So you get nothing, you lose, Good day, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
And so what what I'm saying is with just a
small outlier, a small window, and even fewer windows now
where you're playing opponents from another league, how do you judge?
How do you judge?

Speaker 5 (01:22:02):
It?

Speaker 3 (01:22:02):
To me, is a beauty contest. It's a beauty contest,
and it's unfortunate because I personally believe that fans deserve
better that you. The college football faithful you, you, you

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should not be satisfied with college football and conferences turtling
up basically and saying we're just playing one another and
we're not gonna have a whole lot of games out
of conference. That to me doesn't make any sense. Like,
imagine that's if that's all you played. Okay, let's just

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say that's all you played. There was no non conference games. Okay,
the only thing you play is conference games. Question, how
do you judge who's the best team? Now, think about that.
How do you judge it? Like going into the playoffs?
How do you decide who's number one? He said, Well,

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it's how they look, and in some respects it is
still in this era. It's still about how they look.
I don't deny that fact. But at least she gets
some metrics, she gets some measurement, You get some Well,
we thought Alabama was the best, but look what happened
when Alabama played Miami. Look how close that game was. Now,

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compare the best team in the ACC. Let's say it's
Florida State in this scenario, and what they did against Miami.
Whoa they they hammered them. Maybe Florida State's actually the
better team. There's a there's a cross comparison. But if
you just play the teams in your league, and I
just play the teams in my league and nobody plays

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anybody outside of that, you can agree, Right, we'd have
no real way of knowing who's the best. We would
just completely have to assume who's the best. We'd have
no metric for measuring it how they look. That's the
only metric. What cross division games give you, or cross
conference games give you is some measuring stick opportunities, and

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we need more of those, not less. This sport needs more,
and we'll see if we ever get back to that,
because right now I don't think this is great for
the sport. All right, we'll talk more about tomorrow again
right here on Tuesday, until this is always y'all take
care now and goat Tigers.