The "Inexcusable Performace" Edition

Clemson gets bounced from the NCAA Tournament in shockingly bad fashion. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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zero zero eighty six. Well, that was bitterly disappointing Clemson
Tigers falling against McNeice in the NCAA Tournament. My buddy
Francis somewhat coin day phrase that I think is brilliant

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or at least his brother did a two point blowout,
because that's exactly what it was. It was. The first
half was abysmal for Clemson, one of the worst first
halves certainly that any higher ranked team has ever had
in the history of the NCAA tournament. Just the play

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was quite frankly despicable, and I think that's probably I
think that's probably being nice. Clypson scores just thirteen points
in the first half. The Tigers trailed thirty one to
thirteen at the break, and when the score was eighteen

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to eight. You'll recall on this program last week after
Clipson made a miraculous comeback just to come up just
short against Louisville at the ACC Tournament, I said, I
think minus still one hundred. This team needs to mix
in some pressure defense, get some easy buckets, create some
plays and when they were struggling mightily offensively, let alone

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get and just blitzed on the defensive end and the
boards and rebounds, offensive rebound. I mean, it was just
mind blowing that this was a smaller team than Clemson.
But late in the game they do go to the
pressure defense and make an incredible run to give themselves

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a chance. And all I'm left with is why did
it take so long for Brad Brownell, who I was
excited about him getting an extension, a six year extension.
Why did it take him so long? I was proud
of the fact that he had a group of players.
I mentioned this when we interviewed tim Beray earlier in

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the week. I was happy that he was a guy
that trusted his team to make plays and not necessarily
call timeouts to get guys through, you know, tough spots
in a ballgame. But how in the world in that game,
when it's eighteen to eight and you can just feel
that the momentum is on the side of Will Wade's

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ball club, you don't do something to change it up.
I was blown away. And the thing was, you knew
that the pressure worked against Louisville, and you looked a
lot better in all of that sort of a byproduct

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of the loss of and I think an undervalued loss nationally.
I think during the game yesterday it wasn't talked about
enough the loss of Dylan Hunter to this team and
what that took off the court for Clemson. But if
you're like me today, you're just struggling to understand the
thought process in that moment to not do a little

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bit more, to be aggressive, to generate some opportunities to
get a guy like Chase Hunter, who incredibly finishes with
twenty one points. Chase Hunter did not score his first
basket in the ballgame until ten minutes and two seconds

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remained for thirty minutes of the game. Your top score
scored nothing, and he scores twenty one points in the
final ten minutes of action. But how do you not
change it up earlier to get him something? We'll hear

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from Brad brown l in a little bit here on
the program. Jayden Zachary scores twenty four. At the end
of the day, a two point blowout is what you had.
Sixty nine sixty seven McNeese over Clemson. The Tiger season

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is done in a most disappointing fashion. At the NCAA Tournament,
Clemson shoots twenty one to fifty seven, just thirty seven
percent from the field, nine of thirty from beyond the arc.
But that doesn't tell the story of just how poor

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it was in the first half. I mean, that's that's
the thing that you don't see. Five of twenty four
from the field, one of fifteen from three awful ten

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turnovers leading to fifteen points for MacNeice in the first half,
and just out quick to the basketball. They anticipated better
than Clemson. They deserve to win. But as disappointing as
it was, the lack of a change in strategy when

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you could feel the sand slipping through your fingers really
bothers me. And with the size advantage that you have,
here's another factor too, Ian Shefflin zero for four from
the floor, one point one point going out the door
for Ian, six points for Victor Lockin. You got the

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size advantage, and you can't figure out a way to
get the ball to your bigs and the paint and
have them do anything of consequence. Ian Shefflin, who had
a spectacular career who everybody embraced and loved and was
a double double machine, was a non factor. And again,

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your other star, Chase Hunter, non factor until the final
ten minutes. How are you supposed to win when that's
the case. At one point in the game, I tweeted,
I think this is let me actually, you know what,
let me pull up the tweet instead of just hypothetically

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trying to remember exactly what I said, because there was
a lot This was my tweet and I quote that
was probably the most disappointing half of basketball I've watched
since Clemson lost to Oakland in the n It flat
out embarrassing half of hoops on the biggest stage. And

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that's that's so true. Mark Packer tweeting I've watched a
lot of Clemson hoops in my lifetime. I'm having a
hard time thinking of worse first half performance than what
just took place in Providence. Discuss Clemson's struggles in the
last five games beyond the Arc on YA Yesterday's show.

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Clemson would finish again nine to thirty from Beyond the Arc,
much of those coming like in a whirling dervish at
the end when you just gotta scramble. Tigers made five
of their last six shots to give themselves a chance
in a two point lost sixty nine to sixty seven.

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But they weren't. But it wasn't just Mark Packer who's
been who was critical or recognizing just how bad that
first half was. Jordan Cornett tweeting, I have not seen

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a higher seed dominated like that in all of my
years covering the game. Clemson better wake up. McNeice is
wired and can't wait to get back on the floor.
Just a gut punch performance in the first half. Davidhood

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from tiring at tweeting, I believe the lowest first half
total point total in INCAA history was in twenty nineteen,
when Texas scored just sixteen against Texas Tech. Clemson finished
with thirteen in the first half. We did find out
later that the fewest was I believe twelve for Wisconsin.

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I believe that was announced during the game, so didn't
quite set a record. Pat Forty tweeting at the half
when Clemson was down thirty one to thirteen. I cannot
recall a worse half from a team seated seven spots
higher than its opponent. But give mcneese's credit, they're incredibly
active and athletic and have a great game plan. And

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you know what I would love I would love to say, oh, yeah,
you know what that was. There were foulling and the
rest weren't calling it, dude. They were aggressive. There was
one play where a guy stripped the ball. He tried
to get it with his right hand and missed. Excuse me,
with his left hand and missed it. And on the
drive behind him, he reached back and got it with

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his right like they were just putting an extra effort.
They were just they wanted the game more than Clemson.
And I can certainly put the inability or a lack
of change in the play style or whatever on Brad
brown le but I can't put the effort on Brad

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brown l And you might say, yeah, but it's his
job to get the team ready. Well, let me tell
you something. When you're down eighteen to eight and you
go to a TV timeout and you're a player, if
you haven't got the memo yet that you're in trouble,
it's no longer on the coach now, it is if

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he doesn't change the play, didn't change the strategy, doesn't
do something to alter the outcome, which I didn't think
Brad Brownell did, which is disappointing because I know he's
a good coach. But you know what, you know what
I think this was. I think this was a game
that Clemson thought they could flip the switch. I think

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this was the prototypical Church League basketball game. Clemson thought
they could flip the switch. Clemson thought that at any
moment they could turn it on, and they waited too
late to flip the switch. They outscored mcnee' fifty four

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to thirty eight in the second half. That's what they
had to do. They were getting smoked at the break
down eighteen. Just a frustrating performance all the way around
for the Tigers. Mcnee's largest lead was twenty four with

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sixteen fourteen left in the game at forty to sixteen.
Clemson had a lead of two points at six to
four with fifteen fifty nine left in the first half.

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An incredibly frustrating day for Tiger fans. And you know,
this team very well could have been beaten on Saturday
by Purdue. And I don't think many of you would
have walked away from a loss against Purdue by a
couple of points in the NCAA Tournament said, you know what,

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that took the shine off of this season, That tarnished
a unbelievable year in Clemson basketball history. But I would
say that there are quite a few of you that
will take this loss and put it in that direction

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to say this took away from the incredible year that
Clemson had, and not to mention it was Will Wade.
Not to mention that, not to mention it was a
team that you were clearly, you clearly should have dominated
in the paint. Yet they out rebounded you forty three
thirty six. They had eighteen offensive rebounds, eighteen offensive rebounds.

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Did they have a starter over six foot seven? I
mean Clemson started three guys over six foot eight, and
you were physically beat up in the paint, Clemson was
outscored forty four to twenty four. In the paint, Clemson

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was outscored by McNeice bench thirty five to five. And honestly,
I thought that Chauncey Wiggins would have sort of a
resurgence with Dylan Hunter out. That didn't happen. He did

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finish with ten, I mean, he outplayed Cheflin and Locking.
I mean, he was the third best player on the
court for Clemson, But there were so many moments where
you could tell he was not ready. Jake Heidebreeder, who
was supposed to be a real three point threat for
Clemson the final seven eight games of the season, was atrocious.

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He was terrible in this game, one of five, that
one three pointer coming, you know late in the game
when you just gotta again give it ye old heave
ho making a three pointer with thirty eight seconds left. Well,
thank you, thank you, Jake. You made one. Finally, miss

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three pointer, miss three pointer, miss three pointer. If your
jobs to make three pointers, guess what how about make some?
How about make some when it matters and you're not
in this situation where you're scrambling late. Jake high Breeder

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makes Alex him and way look like Steph Curry for
crying out loud, like make a three. I mean his
form first off, I don't really get his form. A
couple of times watching him shoot this year, I've been like,
what is going on with that? But dude, when you

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lose a guy like Dylan Hunter and you're in the
game and that's your job to make the three, guess
what you got to shoot? Like you're not thinking about it.
Make the three. And you could tell too. They knew
they could attack him defensively. Brad Brandel didn't go to
his zone, Brad Broannel didn't switch to the to the
press until late, you know, pushing the tempo. It just

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an incredibly frustrating performance all around. With eight oh seven
left in the game, much like their matchup against Louisville
where Comepson was down fifteen with three minutes of change,
the Tigers put together a run from the eight oh

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seven mark to the six to ten mark. They went
on a nine to ozero run and trimmed a twenty
two point lead from fifty one to twenty nine down
to fifty one thirty eight, and you could kind of
feel a little momentum in the building now you're down
thirteen with six minutes. You know the swany math. You
do the math. Six times two is twelve. You're down thirteen.

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You're right on the number. You give up a couple
of free throws. Now you're down fifteen. You trim it
back after some free throws of your own, back down thirteen.
You give up a little four to zero run. With
four to twenty left, you're down sixteen. You do the map.
That's not great. You're in a bad spot. You need
to be down eight. You're down sixteen, but you put
together a seven oh run over a minute, and then

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with three minutes and eleven seconds left, you're down ten.
Multiply three times two. That's six. You're still on the
outside edge. Work left to be done. They make a
free throw to go up eleven. You hit a bucket
to pull it to nine. They hit a bucket to
put it back up to eleven. You hit a three.
Now it's eight with two minutes to go. Two times

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two is four. You're down eight. You got work to do.
They push you back up to ten with one to
twenty six left, and you think, man, it's probably over. Shoemake.
It's a dunk to push it to twelve with one
minute left. You go on a quick six to zero run.
All of a sudden, you're down six with thirty eight
seconds left. They get a dunk that reverse jam to

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put them up eight. You get a Jayden Zachary three.
You're down five with twenty three, they go one to
two at the line. You're down six. You hit a
three pointer. Now you're down three. With twelve seconds left,
they go one to two at the line. You get
a layup at the buzzer. Sixty nine to sixty seven,
two point blowout, two point blow You were down twenty

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two with eight oh seven left. You outscored McNeice by
twenty over the final eight minutes of action and lose
all because you didn't have that energy and that game
plan earlier. The energy parts on the players, the game

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plans on the coaches. We'll hear from Brad Brunel right
around the band and stay with us.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, congratulations to McNeice. They played very well. Picked a
tough day to not play as play our best. Certainly
they had a lot to do with that. I didn't
do a very good job with my guys, and you know,
we weren't really prepared for the zone demand. I haven't
seen a lot of that this year, maybe a little
bit with Stanford, and it bothered us. I thought their
athleticism inside and their quickness certainly was a factor. The

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offensive rebounds that they got extra possessions really helped them,
and we just we had a hard time getting any rhythm.
And I think that's, you know, that's what's disappointing for me,
is I couldn't help my guys get into any kind
of rhythm in the game. I'm super proud of these
guys and the kind of season that we had obviously
twenty seven wins, and the way these guys do it,
the way they carry themselves as men. They're just terrific

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people and leaders, and so it's been a privilege to
coach two guys like this, and I hate that it
had to end the way it did today.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Chase hunder and I and Shefflin were asked what they
felt like was going on in that first half of
action where the Tiger scored just thirteen points in.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
The air plane. Some good defense, but I think in all,
I think we missed a lot of open shots. We
had a lot of open looks that we usually make
I think if a few of those going in, it's
a whole different ballgame. So at the end of the day,
I think, you know, we got a lot of open
looks that we just missed, and that's the game basketball.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
I agree with Chase, you know, I think they disrupted
our flow a little bit, and I think we got
a little a little too uh, a little too antsy
a little bit. You know, we got some open shots
that didn't fall, and you know, we kind of kind
just didn't have that flow that we usually have.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
The players were asked how they're gonna think about this season,
given the fact that they said a single season record
with twenty seven wins, but then got eliminated like this
from the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
You know, obviously this hurts. We wanted to, you know,
do some big things. You know, the end of the year.
I'm proud of this team and the way that we
you know, the whole season, like you said, we we
did great. You know, we had twenty seven wins, set
school records. But you know, it's gonna steam to know
that we didn't finish the right way. I think that's
something that you know, you know, probably hurt us for
the rest of our lives. But you know, we still

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do some great things this year. You know, it definitely
hurts it in this way.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
I agree with Chase. You know, it's good. It's good
for the underclassmen to you know, get to experience this.
And you know, me and Chase obviously didn't want to
go up. You know, it wasn't the first game, but
you know, we had a great year and hopefully the
underclassic can build off this.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Chase Hunter and I and Shefflin were asked about Clemson
being out rebounded by McNeice on both the offensive and
defensive ends of the floor.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
I mean they're a very physical team. They you know,
if you didn't box them out, they were gonna make
you pay. And I feel like sometimes they just wanted
the ball more, and you know, sometimes the ball bounces
the other way. Sometimes it bounces your way in you
know today tonight, today they kind of just you know,
they're more physical and we just wanted the ball more.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
After the two players left the podium, Brad brown Nell
was asked what his message to the team was when
they trailed thirty one to thirteen at the break, and
whether or not he'd been involved in a game that
went like that early.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, oh we've had you have halves like that. You
don't like having them in this setting. Yeah, I was
trying to really just get him to relax. You know,
we haven't shot the ball very well the last two weeks.
I don't know why that is. We obviously did a
bunch of extra shooting this week or one for fifteen
at halftime, and you can almost see our guys pressing
and just trying hard and shooting is not a good concept.

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We were trying as a staff to figure out a
better way to help get even more better shots and
keep better flow and just is there a way for
us to get a few easies. You know. Defensively, we
were decent tonight minus the extra possessions, I mean the
eighteen offensive rebounds or whatnot. I mean, that's eighteen second
chance opportunities. That's just too many. And we talked about

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this was an excellent offensive rebounding team and a team
that really tried to create turnovers, and their athleticism and speed,
you know, was a factor.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Brad brother Now. I was also asked though about Clems's
second half, where they scored fifty four points and gave
themselves an opportunity and what could be taken away from that.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Well, this team is obviously showed that the last two games,
we didn't play as well against Louisville either at times
a similar team, to be honest with the very athletic
and physical, and they bothered us as well, and so
we cut it to one possession in both games. You know,
we've got a great group of guys that they're unbelievable.
These two guys are phenomenal leaders, and I mean, you

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don't win as many games as we won this year
without these guys being great players and really connected and
great leaders. And so we're obviously proud of all that.
We're just we're disappointed that we in this setting after
what we accomplished last year, that we didn't play.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Better Brad Bron. That was also asked about Victor Lockin's
controversial technical where he picked up his fourth and fifth
foul and was ejected from the game.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, I'm disappointed in that, and I just talked to
my guys, and you know, I made a big deal
to our team about not getting involved in any wolfing
today and and that was very disappointing. I think the
second guy got caught and obviously it was a very
inopportune time for that call. So disappointed, but you know,

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things happen.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Final thing Brownell was asked was to reflect on this
team and the group of seniors that'll be leaving the program.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, I mean, are just you know, just joy to
coach those two guys, especially because they're such great players,
competitors and where they came from. You know, Ian was
not heavily recruited and you know has had an unbelievable year.
I think very few people thought he would play as
well as he did at our level. And then Chase

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was heavily recruited but had injuries as a young player
and struggled and to overcome all that and to show
the grit that we talk about. You know, that's what
this is really all about as a coach, is you know,
helping young men become better on and off the floor.
And then we got a bunch of other guys. I mean,
I have three senior walk ons that you know, in
this day and age of transfer portal, your walk ons

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become more valuable because they're guys that are there for
four years, so they're part of your culture and how
they work and what they do. And they're terrific young
men that gave a lot, and I'm grateful for them
for all that they gave to our program and obviously
our programs in a very good place right now.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
So there you go. That's Brad Brown, el Ian Shefflin,
and Chase Hunter following Clemson's disappointing loss yesterday at the
NCAA Tournament. After being down twenty two points twenty four
was the most they were down, but twenty two points
with eight minutes and change remaining, they make a remarkable
run after the one of the worst first halves. I

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feel like me and four listeners could have scored more
than thirteen points in the first half of that game,
But after being down by eighteen at the break, thirty
one to thirteen, and down twenty two with eight minutes
to go, they give themselves a chance. Losing by two
just incredibly frustrating from the first half standpoint, though, stay
with us, rocking and rolling along with you on a

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Friday afternoon, Still struggling to put that loss in the
rearview mirror. Yesterday, thirteen points in the first half just abysmal.
I can't shake it. The only way I've been able
to show it at all, is what I said earlier,
just thinking about, you know what it might have been
over on Saturday anyway against Purdue, and if you played
the way you did in the opener, you were going

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to lose that game anyway. So there you go. Now
it's baseball season. But now let's talk feel a little
bit about the goings on in the NCAA Tournament so
far and everything that went down yesterday, and then also
what we're looking at from the standpoint of the mighty
SEC for a moment, because there was great contention about
the SEC getting fourteen teams in and I kind of

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went through the brackets and played it out, and I
said that I thought nine teams from the SEC would
make it to the round of thirty two. So my
projection versus reality, so I said nine would make it.
We still have SEC contest to go. But here's what

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went down yesterday in the NCAA Tournament and how it
affected the Southeastern Conference. Top seeded Auburn beat Alabama State
eighty three sixty three to advance. Yesterday afternoon, Louisville was
defeated by Creighton eighty nine to forty five, kicking one

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of the ACC schools out of course, with Clemson being gone,
that leaves just Duke and North Carolina. North Carolina tipping
off at four h five this afternoon against an SEC
school and Old Miss Duke tipping off at three oh
nine against Mount Saint Mary's. But as far as yesterday's contest,
we move on. Fifth seeded Michigan beat UC San Diego

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sixty eight sixty five, and Texas A and M advanced
out of the SEC eighty seventy one over Yale. Some
people had Yale upsetting Texas A and M. Nonetheless, with
Auburn and A and M advancing in the South region,
the SEC locked in two teams into the round of

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thirty two. Also yesterday you had Saint John's top Omaha
eighty three fifty three, Saint John's the two seed in
the West, and you had Arkansas beating Kansas. That was
one of my potential upset matchups that I gave you.
I did pick Arkansas to advance in my bracket, and

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they did seventy nine seventy two Arkansas over Kansas. That
was one I gave you. You had Tennessee yesterday topping
my dad's Walford Terriers, seventy seven sixty two to advance
to the second round, and UCLA hammered Utah State seventy
two forty seven, setting up a matchup between the Bruins

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and the volunteers in round two. Also, yesterday you had
Houston advancing seventy eight seventy eight forty and let's see
Gonzai to beat Georgia eighty nine to sixty eight, hammering
the Bulldogs, eliminating the Dogs from the NCAA tournament. So

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you'll have Houston and Gonzaga facing off, Clemson upset by
mcneie sixty nine sixty seven, and mcneis will take on
Purdue tomorrow at twelve ten tip off on CBS, perdue
favor by five and a half. And again, Tiger fans,
that's the only way to shake it. Just say to yourself,
I don't think we would have beaten Purdue if we

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played the way we did in the opening round. You
also had yesterday BYU beating VCU eighty to seventy one.
They advanced to face Wisconsin, who taught Montana eighty five
sixty six. And then today Alabama, out of the SEC,
beat Robert Morris to advance ninety eighty one. Robert Morris

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gave the Crimson Todd everything they wanted. Baylor the nine
Mississippi State seventy five seventy two earlier today, eliminating another
team from the SEC out of the NCUBLEA Tournament. And
I also forgot to mention Missouri the sixth seed getting

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beat by ten As Drake the eleven seed beats Missouri
sixty sixty seven fifty seven yesterday, so Missouri is eliminated
from the NC DOUBLEA Tournament. And then Texas Tech beat
UNC Wilmington eighty two seventy two, setting up Drake versus
Texas Tech in the second round out West. So that

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was the one that I was missing earlier. So I
believe now with the way it stands, the Southeastern Conference,
the Southeastern Conference, which got fourteen teams in, has already
lost four teams in Texas, Mississippi State, Missouri, and Georgia,
and we still have matchups to come. You've got Yukon

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and Oklahoma tonight at nine twenty five, You've got Florida
and Norfolk State. At six point fifty, you've got Kentucky
and Troy. At seven ten pm, you've got Vandy and
Saint Mary's tipping off just a little bit ago, and

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let's see Old Miss in North Carolina. I said that
one earlier, four of five. I'm not feeling great about
my nine SEC schools being available as I am currently
with ten remaining, and I could easily see North Carolina

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beating Old Miss. I could easily see Yukon beating Oklahoma.
That would take the SEC down to eight.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
And.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Possibly Saint Mary. He's beating Vanderbilt, that might be a
possibility that would take the SEC down to seven. And
looking at my original projections for the Sweet sixteen, I
had five remaining, I had half of the Elite eight
from the SEC. This was not necessarily my bracket, but

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this was kind of just my thoughts on how it
could play out positively for the SEC. I would say
at this point, though, having played what like twenty games
total in the NCAA tournament at this point, and in
those twenty games, if you include the first four, I

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guess twenty four games, four teams already gone from the league,
I mean, the ACC. It's not easy to justify either,
right with the two teams that went eighteen to two,
Clemson Louisville already eliminated, but the SEC got all the
chatter and thus far, I would say the SEC's bubble

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has burst at the NCAA tournament, specifically those kind of
border bubble teams in Texas, Missouri, Mississippi State, and Georgia
already being eliminated. All right, final segment of our number
one come up right around the bend here on the
show that shakes the south Land. Stay with us. Final
segment of our number one again, still trying to rebound

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from Clemson sixty nine to sixty seven loss to McNeice,
and I think more importantly, still trying to rebound from
the thirteen points in the first half. It's it's mind blowing.
I can't erase it like it was an unforgiving and
unforgettable disappointment. I can't wait to hear Tim Bray's thoughts

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on it next week. Because if you were waiting for
Clemson to lay the eggh shout out to our game
cock listeners.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
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Speaker 1 (35:08):
Showing the nation, it could not have happened at a
worst time. And Brad Brannel said that we could not
have had a you know, we could not have picked
a Knight to have a worse performance than that. You know,
I saw David Hood tweet that it doesn't look like
Jade Zachary is gonna be able to come back into
a lot of people thought that was the case, but

(35:30):
you know, I don't know. I don't know what kind
of footing this program is actually on, and I think
that is a problem. And here's what I mean. If
you had won this game, and you went on to
win another game and got back to the Sweet sixteen

(35:52):
and got beat by Houston, the questions would still remain
about what this roster looks like next season minus Chefflin,
minus Chase Hunter, minus Victor Lockinus Jaden Zachary. Right like,

(36:12):
you start to peel back the layers of who's who
you're losing, And yes, you'd be losing those guys even
if you had won. But I think had you won
and advanced and maybe gotten to the Sweet sixteen or
the Elite eight, if you were fortunate enough to do that,
even with tremendous losses, you would have this feeling like, well,

(36:35):
it's gonna be okay. We've got you know, we've begun
to establish ourselves as a program that has to be
paid attention to. But when you goosey basically an entire

(36:57):
three quarters of a ballgame, and that's what Clempson did.
They basically did nothing for three quarters of that game
to then turn it on a Clemson play scared. Clemson
played like they were afraid to lose. And you're not

(37:19):
the first team to do it. It has been done.
It is a tried and true aspect of the NC
DOUBLEA tournament that you cannot replicate otherwise. In the NC
DOUBLEA tournament, the pressure that exists on top seeds is immense,

(37:47):
and when lower seeds play well, or play with great energy,
or create the situation that was established yes yesterday early
by by McNeice against Clemson, you began to feel it.

(38:07):
Which is why when Clemson was down eighteen to eight,
I knew the Tigers were in big trouble, not that
they were going to lose. That came just a little
bit later. I did fire that tweet off. Then it
was hard to believe Clemson was not going to win
this game. And yes they got it back to and

(38:29):
yes they gave themselves a chance, but they waited too
long to try to change the energy in that building.
They waited too long, and it wasn't about how many
guys could slap the floor, get excited or get pumped up.
It was about literally changing the entire energy of the game.

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And the only person that I feel like could do
that was Brad brown Now, and I think Brad Brownell
got out coached by Will Wade, and the two guys
will face off again when Will Wade ends up at
NC State, and from this point forward, especially after that loss,

(39:17):
Brad Brownell's evaluation in any loss against Will Wade will
be graded very harshly, not just because you lost to
Will Wade at McNeice, but because Will Wade was a
name that people have wanted in the past when Brad
Brownell struggled. And yes, I was excited when the Indiana

(39:39):
job was filled, and I was excited that the news
came out that Brad Brownell was going to get a
six year extension. But maybe the timing of that's wrong,
and maybe putting that out into the ether was not
a good thing ahead of this matchup for Clemson, because

(40:03):
that was an abysmal performance. That was a Larry shyat
coach team performance. And actually it might be worse than
that because I think Larry Shyat would have probably changed

(40:24):
things up. I don't know what Brad Brownell was thinking,
you know, I talked a couple of days before in
the interview with Tim Bray about how I thought it was.
I thought it was significant that Brad Brightell trusted his guys.
I think he may have ended up trusting them too much,

(40:45):
And it would be interesting to me to see, especially
during tournament play, for the rest of his career, if
and when Brad Brownell runs into a similar situation how
he responds and handles it, because to me, I didn't

(41:06):
think he handled it very well at all. As much
as I thought the players thought it was a church
league basketball game where they were gonna flip the switch.
It almost felt like Brad brown El felt that way,
and clearly they were ill prepared for that zone to
man defense that will Wade put out there, and that

(41:29):
again is an indicator of Clemson just being out coached
all right. Our number two around the band stay with
us each time Clipson Sports Talk with Luwton Swan. It

(42:18):
is our number two. That's drivetime right here on the
show that shakes the south Land Clemson Sports talog. Swan
hanging out with you on a Friday afternoon, off the
heels of what has to be one of the most
disappointing Clemson performances in basketball history. I think the fact

(42:46):
that the balloon was so big and filled with air
of positivity that makes it even more painful. I mean,
I wish I had some grandiose explanation. Dylan Thompson clearly

(43:07):
meant more to this team than anyone expected. I almost
wonder if he could have played honestly, like just pretend
like maybe not even be much of a factor in

(43:29):
the game, just beyond the court, how much that would
have settled things down for Clemson or you know, because look,
if you think about it, Chase didn't score bucket until
ten minutes left in the game. Ian only scored a
point in the whole ball game. What's the worst? What

(43:52):
is the worst that Dylan Hunter could have done in
the game? Scored zero? His brother, who averaged sixteen plus
points per game, managed to do that for thirty of
the forty minutes. Like, Clemson was so bad without Dylan
Hunter in that game that you almost wonder what they

(44:16):
would have been like with Dylan Hunter in that game
with a broken hand, I don't imagine many of you
would raise your hand at this moment and go I
think they would have been worse with him out there
with one arm, not you know, not having his other
hand available or wrapped or whatever. Like, I think it's

(44:40):
a legit question, especially given the play that you got
from Jake Heidebreeder, the play that you got for most
of the ballgame from Chauncey Wiggins. How bad could it
have been with Dylan Hunter in the game with a

(45:04):
broken hand. Some of you might say, you know what,
swanding Now that you bring that up, I think Clemson
might have won that game with Dylan Hunter in there
with a broken hand.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
It was serious about that.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Like, legitimately, how much worse could that game have gone
if Dylan Hunter had played? I don't think. I don't
think it could have gone worse. Like I literally believe
that if Dylan Hunter had played, Clemson would have been

(45:52):
better than they were. I think about that for a second.
Matter of fact, you know what, let me put a
pull up on social media and engauge the interest of
the fan the listener, because my thought is it couldn't

(46:15):
have been much worse, and if and if you didn't
let everybody know he was injured. Like now if it
was like, oh yeah, we think, oh he's injured, you
can't play, you can't do anything. He's just out there
catching the ball and passing it, just being a part
of the offense running through. Maybe he's guy's hand wrapped
a little bit. And I don't know what a broken
hand is versus a broken finger, Like I don't know

(46:38):
what the what the difference is versus you know, being
able to play with like your you know, I know
I've seen guys like break a finger and they like
tape it up. Let's just see, a broken handed ball
was practicing the bones of the palm or the wrist,

(47:00):
while a broken fingerballs practicing the bones of the fingers,
the phalangies. Could he have played and if he had played,
how that change things? Even if he didn't play much?
Just gotta willis read that thing a little bit, just
got to be in the lineup, settle things down a

(47:21):
little bit, maybe make the game a little bit different
from the standpoint of McNeice and the defense that they're
trying to play. I honestly have no clue, but I
can't imagine it would have been worse. And then here's
the other thing, you know, talking about Jaydon Zachary possibly
not being able to return Clemson's roster and what it's

(47:41):
going to look like. Brad Brownell is gonna have to
win in the portal because I don't think a hide Breeder,
as I said, is as good as Alex Himanway. I

(48:02):
think Dylan Hunter is a player, but he's not his brother,
and I don't think he'll ever be that. There's no
guarantee Chauncey Wiggins is coming back, but he could. And
then on social media today, I saw where Louisville, according

(48:25):
to reports, is willing to spend eight million dollars in
the transfer portal this season, eight million, and so I
don't know how much Clemson is willing to spend, but

(48:48):
we'll see what ends up happening. Jadon Zachary saying after
the game that the staff is quote looking into the
possibility of him getting an extra year of eligibility, he said,
if he gets one, quote, I would definitely love to
come back here for another year. But man, what if
he doesn't. What if he doesn't. I mean, it's gonna

(49:23):
be a tough situation to think you're gonna piece together
another NCAA capable roster unless you just absolutely crush it
in the portal. It's gonna have to be a masterful
portal job from Brad Brown. Now, that's the only thing
I can say about it. A masterful job as er

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(50:09):
all right, Georgia shifting gears off of hoops for a minute.
And I know Georgia was one of the teams eliminated
from the NCAA tournament yesterday, but I saw a tweet

(50:31):
since January of twenty twenty three, I believe when Georgia
won their second consecutive national championship. The Bulldogs have had
twenty five arrests on the team since January twenty twenty three.

(50:55):
That's more arrests than wins. Dogs have had twenty four
wins and twenty five arrests, and the majority of those
arrests have been for the reckless driving and it is
still continuing. I don't know if you saw this news

(51:18):
yesterday or not. With the NCAA tournament beginning, but more
trouble off of the field for the Bulldogs. Two players,
Georgia wide receiver Nitro Tuggle and freshman offensive lineman Marquise Easily,

(51:43):
were suspended in definitely yesterday after Tuggle's arrest for charges
of speeding and reckless driving. Athens Clark County jail records
show Tuggle was arrested early Thursday on misdemeanor charges of
speeding and reckless driving. The Athens Banner Herald reported that
Easily was involved in a vehicle crash on Monday night.

Speaker 5 (52:07):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
This. I saw a national analyst on on Jim Rome,
or excuse me, I saw it. I think it was
a Georgia analyst on Jim Roe on the National Show
talking about this and talking about why this continues to

(52:30):
happen in Athens. And he didn't have a good logical
reason behind it. But you know what, you know what
his you know what he said, and it blew my mind.
He said, Well, the Athens Clark County Police force is
a legitimate police force, unlike you know, and he wanted

(52:52):
to name some other places. I think he did say Tuscaloosa.
I think if your ex as a program or as
a fan base, or as an analyst who covers Georgia,
if the excuse that you give about the reason that
you have the issues that you have is the police force,

(53:15):
I don't think you're giving a very realistic answer on
this that the police force is tough on these guys.
The police force is a real police force. They don't
just let guys off with, you know, a little paddle
on the back and a you know, what do you
call it? A warning? That might be something I would

(53:39):
say if Georgia had only had a couple of these,
maybe i'd agree with that. But when you've had twenty
five of these, it's hard for me to think that, oh,
it's just the other places. Let this stuff slip by

(53:59):
a to the radar. And Georgia, by the way, who
has one of the worst graduation rates. Is the school
that's only being held to a higher standard because of
the police. Yeah, I don't think so. And Kirby Smart,

(54:26):
I think at some point is going to have to
do more and I don't know what more is at
this point, quite frankly, And it would be another thing too,
if no one had died in any of these situations.
It's dangerous enough and you could certainly kill somebody, but

(54:49):
if nobody had been killed at any point, then you
could say, you know what, Yeah, it's terrible, but nobody's died,
and there would be a of contingent of people that
would agree with that and go, yeah, you're right, nobody's died. Yeah,
why he's so hard on nobody's died, But people have died.

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Offensive lineman Devin Willett, recruiting stafford Chandler Lacroix killed in
a crash just after that National Championship celebration, and defensive
tackle Jalen Carter was a part of that as he
was racing. These kids have access to money. These kids

(55:39):
have access to vehicles and cars and things of that nature.
But if money and cars were the issue, then this
would be something that you would see prevalent in professional
programs in other colleges. This is localized to Athens. It's

(56:05):
not just Athens. Clemson has had some incidents with players
and speed programs around the country have incidents with players
in speed, but nobody has had incidents with players in
speed to the degree that we see in Athens, which

(56:29):
brings them into the radar of what's going on. If
they had five or six, we might not quite be
where we are. But if you've had twenty five in
two years, that's basically one a month, that to me

(56:56):
is a major issue. And you know, accountability, I think
is the first standard. And what Georgia could do, I
don't think they will, but would be the kick players
off the team, just say, look, we've lost too much

(57:17):
already from this senseless issue, and we are going to
have a zero hear me now, a zero tolerance on
charges of speeding and reckless driving. Upon your arrest for that,

(57:40):
you are immediately suspended indefinitely until your trial date. And
if you are convicted of that misdemeanor, you are kicked
off the team. And that's it. You want to play

(58:04):
drive safe because being charged with a crime and being
convicted of said crime are two different things. So I
think you do want to have a little leeway there.
But I would ask you how many times because there

(58:25):
will be people that will say that's harms swany what
if those guys are what if they are out to
get them? Okay, how many times have you been charged
with speeding and reckless driving? I venture to guess a
lot of you are going, well, never, you know, that's

(58:49):
never happened. Swaani, right exactly. And given the fact that
some of these players on this team, we're teammates with
Devin Willick and certainly new Chandler Lacroix, the team should

(59:09):
be behind a zero tolerance policy, one hundred percent zero tolerance.
We'll see what they do. Twenty five arrests more rest
than games won since winning back to back national titles.
That's that's an insane number, all right. So Michigan also

(59:36):
back in the news, this time a former Michigan assistant
charged with hacking computer accounts. We'll talk about what was
going on with that situation with former Michigan co offensive
coordinator Mike matt Weiss excuse me, who was fired in

(59:59):
twenty twenty three after failing to cooperate with the school's
investigation to the access from his computer. And speaking of that,
I think it was Will Wade was asked a question about,

(01:00:19):
you know, the investigation that he went through when he
offered a player, you know, money, prior to nil to
come and to come to LSU, and I guess some
people that texted him and all right, man, we texted you,
we'd never heard back from you. In one of his
press conferences, he said something along the lines of, yeah,

(01:00:39):
the fans got that phone. So anyway, we'll tell you
what was going on at Michigan with Matt Weiss and
the incredibly, I don't even know how to I don't
even know how I want to qualify this lude. Maybe

(01:01:05):
behavior that was going on, I'm not sure if that's
the right word, loude, but I'll tell you what he
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That's Clemson Sports Talk dot com clemsonsports Talk dot com.
All right, we'll be right back with more right here
on the show The Shakespeare south Land Clemson Sports saw
the show The Shakestare Southland. All right. Before the break,
we mentioned the situation the Michigan Wolverines in the news
as former co offensive coordinator Matt Weiss was arrested on

(01:01:48):
federal charges related to hacking and identity theft. Weiss, also
a former Baltimore Ravens coach, joined Michigan in twenty twenty one.
Faces fourteen counts of unauthorized computer access and ten counts
of identity theft. The indictment alleges that from twenty fifteen
through twenty twenty three, wise access databases from over one

(01:02:12):
hundred colleges and universities maintained by a group called Keffer
Development Services, and he then downloaded personal information and medical
data of more than one hundred and fifty thousand athletes.

(01:02:33):
And remember when when this situation happened with the laptop
a while back, I think we all immediately started pointing
towards Connor Stallions and that incident that took place where
Michigan was illegally scouting teams and basically just flat out

(01:02:55):
cheating blatantly the year they win the national title. I'll
never let them live that down, believe me. But when
that laptop was taken into possession of the police, I
think most of us thought that this was just going
to be a continuation of that. Weiss reportedly extracted personal

(01:03:17):
and medical information for more than one hundred and fifty
thousand athletes, using encryption breaking techniques to access their accounts. Now,
as I am aware, Matt Weiss is not related to
Charlie Weiss and that group. Okay, so I do want
to put that into the atmosphere here on the program,

(01:03:42):
he allegedly targeted female college athletes seeking intimate photos and videos,
and he kept notes on these individuals, how they looked
their frame. I'll just say it nicely as best I
can there and preferences. Weiss was fired in twenty twenty

(01:04:02):
three after refusing to cooperate with an internal investigation into
his computer access, and that's when we all assumed that
it had to do with the Connor Stallion situation. His
Ann Arbor home was searched in January twenty twenty three,
and the federal charges follow a two year investigation. Prosecutors

(01:04:23):
say he methodically sought out female athletes and returned to
their accounts over time. There is some identity theft charges
as well, ten counts of that. As I mentioned, the
case is being pursued in federal courts. In Detroit with
US prosecutors vowing aggressive action against these computer hacking crimes.

(01:04:49):
So a strange and un unsettling situation there, And not
that it's ever mattered how well you were doing financially,
et cetera, to determine the fates of the decisions you make.

(01:05:15):
But this certainly falls into the realm of what like,
what are you? What are you thinking? Like, You've got
a fantastic job, You've You've been in the NFL for
many years. He was the punter at Vanderbilt from one

(01:05:40):
to three. I don't believe he ever got into a
game based off of what I was able to learn
about him. He spent many years with the Ravens. I mean,
you've got guys like both Harballs, Jim and John who
he's worked under, saying you know great things about and

(01:06:02):
looking at your future at forty two years old what
you could become and this is the path you go down.
Now Again, like I said with the Georgia thing, right,
we have to view all of these things. I think
in our society we go with the guilty until proven innocent,

(01:06:26):
and even if you're proven innocent, some people can never
take away that guilt or the feeling that you are guilty.
But we do live in innocent until proven guilty, right,
and so I do want to at least put that
out there that he's accused of these crimes, that he
has not been convicted of these crimes. But to have

(01:06:50):
all the opportunity in front of you that he had,
and then to fall into a situation where these are
the accusations again against you, again innocent until proven guilty.
You go, what is going what is happening in between
your ears? That you would do something like this? It

(01:07:14):
doesn't make any sense. Fourteen counts of an authorized access
to computers, ten counts of aggravated identity theft, and then
if you read through, you know, we kind of cleaned
it up as best we could. I mean, it's pretty
pretty sick stuff that he was doing, and you, I mean,
probably gonna lose his family, I would assume. I can't

(01:07:35):
imagine his wife and kids end up, you know, sticking
buying through all this. I just again, especially if he's
found guilty or even if he takes some kind of
plea agreement or whatever, you know, goes into dissecting all that.
But I just I'm looking through this story yesterday and

(01:07:57):
going what am I reading? And and and and when
you have that kind of job, et cetera, why are
you even spending the time to do the stuff that
he was doing. Just do your job, bro, coach football,
Make a great living, live a great life. But I guess,

(01:08:22):
like I said, money and and the decisions that you
make that don't necessarily go hand in hand. You know,
he's not the first person that's been in a great
kind of spot and made just unfathomable This is a
tough word for me, unfathomable decisions. But that news yesterday

(01:08:49):
was shocking as as you know, sick as the stuff
the information was that came out the flip side that
it wasn't with Connor Stallions. It was like, what that's
what this was about? I was blown away. All right,
when we come back, we'll hear some of what Brad
Brownell and the players had to say following Clemson's loss
yesterday at the nc DOUBLEA tournament. Rocking and rolling along

(01:09:12):
with you on a Friday afternoon NCUBLEA tournament action all
over the place today, This weekend gonna be great. I
hate Clemson is not in it. After their completely inexcusable
performance in the NC DOUBLEA tournament. Thirteen points in the
first half against mcneise. Tigers do score fifty four points

(01:09:34):
in the second half. Brad Brownell was asked about that
after the game. It was asked, you know a lot
of questions, including time spent there with Ian Shefflin and
Chase Hunter. We played some of that for you in
our number one. We jumped back into that here in
our number two for those of you making your way home.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Yeah, congratulations to McNeice. They played very well. Picked a
tough day to not play his play our best. Certainly
they had a lot to do with that and do
a very good job with my guys. And you know,
we weren't really prepared for the zone demand. I haven't
seen a lot of that this year, maybe a little
bit with Stanford, and it bothered us. I thought their
athleticism inside and their quickness certainly was a factor. The

(01:10:13):
offensive rebounds that they got extra possessions really helped them,
and we just we had a hard time getting any rhythm.
And I think that's you know, that's what's disappointing for me,
is I couldn't help my guys get into any kind
of rhythm in the game. I'm super proud of these
guys and the kind of season that we had obviously
twenty seven wins, and the way these guys do it,
the way they carry themselves as men. They're just terrific

(01:10:36):
people and leaders, and so it's been a privilege to
coach two guys like this, and I hate that it
had to end the way it did today.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Chase hunder and I and Shefflin were asked what they
felt like was going on in that first half of
action where the Tiger scored just thirteen points.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
Yeah, they are planing some good defense, but I think
in all, I think we missed a lot of open shots.

Speaker 5 (01:10:57):
We had a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
Open looks that usually make I think if a few
of those going in, it's a whole different ball game.
So at the end of the day, I think, you know,
we got a lot of open looks that we just missed,
and that's the game basketball.

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
I agree with Chase, you know, I think they disrupted
our flow a little bit, and I think we got
a little a little too uh, a little too antsy
a little bit. You know, we got some open shots
that didn't fall, and you know, we kind of kind
just didn't have that flow that we usually have.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
The players were asked how they're gonna think about this
season given the fact that they said a single season
record with twenty seven wins, but then got eliminated like
this from the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
You know, obviously this hurts. We wanted to, you know,
do some big things, you know, the end of the year.
I'm proud of this team and the way that we
you know, the whole season, like you said, we we
did great. You know, we had twenty seven wins, set
school records. But you know it's gonna steing to know
that we didn't finish the right way. I think that's
something that you know, you know, probably hurt us for
the rest of our lives. But you know, we still

(01:11:52):
did some great things this year. You know, it definitely
hurts it in this way.

Speaker 4 (01:11:56):
I agree with Chase. You know, it's good. It's good
for the underclassman to you know, get to experience this.
And you know, me and Chase obviously didn't want to
go out. You know, it was in the first game,
but you know, we had a great year and hopefully
the underclassic can build off this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Chase Hunter and I and Shefflin were asked about Clemson
being out rebounded by McNeice on both the offensive and
defensive ends of the floor.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
I mean they're a very physical team. They you know,
if you didn't box them out, they were gonna make
you pay. And I feel like sometimes they just wanted
the ball more. And you know, sometimes the ball bounces
the other way, sometimes it bounces your way in you
know today tonight, today they kind of just you know,
they're more physical and we just wanted the ball more.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
After the two players left the podium, Brad brown Nell
was asked what this message to the team was when
they trailed thirty one to thirteen at the break, and
whether or not he'd been involved in a game that
went like that early.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Yeah. Oh, we've had you have halves like that. You
don't like having them in this setting. Yeah. I was
trying to really just get him to relax. You know,
we haven't shot the ball very well the last two weeks.
I don't know why that is. We obviously did a
bunch of extra shooting this week. Were one for fifteen
at halftime, and you can almost see our guys pressing
and just trying hard and shooting is not a good concept.

(01:13:07):
We were trying as a staff to figure out a
better way to help get even more better shots and
keep better flow and just is there a way for
us to get a few easies. You know, Defensively, we
were decent tonight minus the extra possessions, I mean the
eighteen offensive rebounds or whatnot. I mean, that's eighteen second
chance opportunities. That's just too many. And we talked about

(01:13:29):
this was an excellent offensive rebounding team and a team
that really tried to create turnovers and their athleticism and speed,
you know, was a factor.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
Brad Brother that I was also asked though about Clemson's
second half where they scored fifty four points and gave
themselves an opportunity and what could be taken away from that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Well, this team is obviously showed that the last two games.
We didn't play as well against Louisville either at times
and a similar team, to be honest with the very
athletic and physical, and they bothered us as well. Obviously
we cut it to one possession in both games. You know,
we've got a great group of guys that they're unbelievable.
These two guys are phenomenal leaders, and I mean you

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don't win as many games as we won this year
without these guys being great players and really connected and
great leaders. And so we're obviously proud of all that.
We're just we're disappointed that we in this setting after
what we accomplished last year, that we didn't play.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
Better Brad bron That was also asked about Victor Lockin's
controversial technical where he picked up his fourth and fifth
foul and was ejected from the game.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Yeah, I'm disappointed in that, and I just talked to
my guys, and you know, I made a big deal
to our team about not getting involved in any woolfing
today and and that was very disappointing. I think the
second guy got caught, and obviously it was a very
inopportune time for that call. So disappointed, but you know,

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things happen.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
Final thing Brownell was asked was to reflect on this
team and the group of seniors that'll be the program.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Yeah, I mean, are just, you know, just joy to
coach those two guys, especially because they're such great players, competitors,
and where they came from. You know, Ian was not
heavily recruited, and you know, has had an unbelievable year.
I think very few people thought he would play as
well as he did at our level. And then Chase

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was heavily recruited but had injuries as a young player
and struggled and to overcome all that and to show
the grit that we talk about, you know, that's what
this is really all about as a coach, is you know,
helping young men become better on and off the floor.
And then we got a bunch of other guys. I mean,
I have three senior walk ons that you know, in
this day and age of transfer portal, your walk ons

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become more valuable because they're guys that are there for
four years, so they're part of your culture and how
they work and what they do. And they're terrific young
men that gave a lot and I'm grateful for them
for all that they gave to our program. And obviously
our program's in a very good place right now.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
So that's what Brad Bronnell had to say. And again,
an incredibly disappointing performance by Clemson all the way around.
Hard to really hard to wrap your mind around how
poor that first half was, how little impact Chase Hunter
had on the game, how little impact Ian Shefflin had,
on the game, just flat out bunkers. But Hey, the

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best way I've been able to justify it is, I
don't think you were going to be Purdue tomorrow, so
it was going to be over tomorrow anyway, just based
off of the way Clempson has been playing all right,
Final segment around the Bend, We'll see what you thought.
Did people agree on the Dylan Hunter take I gave earlier.
Let's check in with that. Stay with us.

Speaker 5 (01:16:48):
What have you done for me lately? It's a fair question.
Just don't lose sight of the bigger picture. Don't forget
history looking for us at Clepsic. The answer to the
questions what have you done for me lately? What have
you done? Always are the same. We win?

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
So some time time to.

Speaker 5 (01:17:22):
Have some time.

Speaker 6 (01:17:28):
Time, I do go some time, some time, name some time,

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some time, that some time.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Final segment on a Friday afternoon, the show that shakes
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College Avenue, or online at Alumni Hall dot com. All right,
so I asked a question earlier about Dylan Hunter. What

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if Dylan Hunter had just played injured, like, just been
on the court. You know, maybe you can make a
few passes, and like I said, it's hard to imagine
it would have been worse. John's tweeted too soon. John
tweeted too soon? Yes, sorry, John, my bad. I mean,

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I'm just saying how much worse could this offense have
been with Dylan Hunter in the game. By the way,
another little friendly note, every team that Clempson lost to
this season is eliminated from the NCAA tournament except for McNeice. Everyone. Now,

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some didn't make it. Boise State didn't make it. Boise
eliminated Memphis, losing in a five to twelve matchup to
Colorado State. Hey Clempson, you and not alone. I know
I'm not Michael Jackson. I know that for me, I'm

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a man, I'm forty.

Speaker 5 (01:20:03):
I'm not a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
Like I told y'all, when God was giving out good
looks and singing voices, he did not give me a
singing voice. I got good looks. I would have loved
to have been ugly and been able to sing, but I
was blessed with being handsome and not being able to sing.
The Tigers also lost to South Carolina, who did not

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make the NC DOUBLEA Tournament. Clemson lost to Louisville twice
in the regular season, well once in the ACC Tournament.
Louisville was eliminated. Yesterday at the NC DOUBLEA Tournament, Clemson
lost to Georgia Tech. They didn't make the NC DOUBLEA Tournament,
And so that leaves you McNeice as the only team
that beat Clemson that remains in the NC DOUBLEA Tournament,

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the only team still playing for a real championship. Just
like that, everybody's out that set for McNeice. That's that's wild,
all right. Duke's up big. At last check. North Carolina
was trailing Old Miss by four. Vandy was up eleven

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when I last checked against Saint Mary's. So that's kind
of how the afternoon is playing out. Again, we'll see.
I projected that there would be nine SEC schools in
the round of thirty two. Currently four for me. Four

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are out Texas, Mississippi, State, Missouri, and Georgia all eliminated.
Just two ACC schools remain, and it very well could
end up being the just one ACC school remains when
we get to the round of thirty two if North
Carolina doesn't find a way to come back from behind

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against Old miss So what a weird year. And maybe
this is a byproduct of the transfer of Portal Clemson
though with an unforgivable performance. Me it really is, I know,
the final margin when you look at it down the road,
I think one of the ironic things is you'll forget,

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you know, you go, ah, man two point loss. But
I hope it's one that you don't forget. I hope
it's one that you always remember as being a game
that Clemson should have won. It should have been more competitive, man,
And you know, I mean the impact that you know,
we talked about the portal earlier. Final thing and I'll

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get you out of here, you know, Jack Clark Leavin
Clemson for VCU was a big deal. Clemson losing RJ.
Godfrey to Georgia. I mean, those are players that could
have helped this season. I don't dismissed the fact that

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the incredible season Clemson had was not without the players
that were playing like Jake High Breeder and and uh
Chauncey Wiggins. But man, once you lost Dylan Hunter, clearly
this thing went down hill in a hurry. I mean absolutely,

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it was almost as if you would have been better
off losing the Chase Hunter. It's that. How weird is
that to say out loud? It's almost as if losing
Chase Hunter the team would have been better. I can't
even in my brain, I can't put that together. But
you'll almost wonder what would it have been like. I

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don't know, Man, Dylan clearly is a bigger piece than
we all expected. We'll talk more about on Monday and
react to the weekend as well. Until then, as always,
y'all take care now and go Tigers.